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The European Commission’s in-house think tank has produced an interesting report on “European common goods” which has a wealth of infographics highlighting the various ways the European Union is declining: the rise China, the rise of euroskeptic populism, weak militaries, poor quality migrants, and weakness on R&D and tech. The paper is worthy of Signal, both in terms of striking visuals and fluffy bureaucratese (which you can read only if you wish to have direct insight into globalists’ minds).

The report’s authors speak of the “polycrisis” (financial, debt, and migrant crises), “megatrends,” and supposed “reinvention” the EU has experienced in recent years . . . but really the document is very frank in highlighting the downward slope Europe is facing. Say what you want about the Eurocrats, they are acutely aware of many of our continent’s problems, even if their supposed solutions are often highly questionable. The infographics follow, with the occasional quote and commentary.

Rise of China

The report notes that “standard-setting power threatens to shift towards Asia, along with economic prowess and technological leadership.” What’s more, partners who have traditionally looked to the EU – namely Africa and the western Balkans – “are diversifying their partnerships” throw growing ties with China, India, and/or Russia.

Military

The EU’s defense capabilities have taken a huge hit with Britain’s departure, leaving France as the only country left with semi-serious power-projection capability.

Energy

On energy, Europe has decoupled economic growth from carbon emissions: GDP per capita has resumed growth, even as emissions are overall declining. However, so far Europe has not led the clean energy industrial revolution, which perhaps make sense given her post-industrial services economy.

While the EU touts elevated climate ambitions, more and more Europeans are unable to pay their utility bills. If, as can be expected, reducing carbon emissions will require lower purchasing power for the people, both big business and yellow-vest protestors will object. The EU’s top diplomat, the elderly Spanish social-democrat Josep Borrel, caused uproar when he suggested Greta Thunberg’s climate protestors would not be willing to pay an economic price for their cause:

The idea that young people are seriously committed to fighting climate change — we could call it the ‘Greta syndrome’ — allow me to doubt that. . . . I would like to know if young people demonstrating in Berlin calling for measures against climate change are aware of what such measures will cost them and if they are willing to lower their living standards to offer compensation to Polish miners, because if we fight against climate change for real they will lose their jobs and will have to be subsidized.

On the positive side, the report notes that new energy technologies could lead to “a new socio-economic paradigm based on local economic activity.” That would certainly improve the prospects for deep and genuine local sovereignty.

Tech

Winner-take-all is winner-take-all…

In theory, the EU has the scale to produce its own homegrown tech giants. In practice, despite the removal of legal trade barriers between states, the nations continue to be the real markets that one wins or loses and none of them is big enough to rival the United States or China. That’s statal-linguistic memetics for you. However, if the EU were to become fully protectionist on digital matters, there’s no doubt we could achieve digital sovereignty.

Migration

And now the most disastrous area: migration. As the report notes, the EU is increasingly:

  • Suffering from brain-drain to the Anglosphere
  • Failing to attract high-quality migrants
  • Attracting low-quality and “non-economic” migrants.

The report is worth quoting, if only to show the state of official thinking (bullet points and bolding in the original):

  • Migration will remain a defining issue for the EU in the years to come as the absolute number of migrants across the world is expected to continue increasing. Economic development in the world’s poorest regions will in the short-term lead to greater migration as people’s ability and willingness to emigrate increases with income. This trend could affect much of the African continent, where the population is not only very young, but also set to double in the next 30 years.
  • Europe will likely remain an attractive destination: It is already home to 15% of the world’s migrants (excluding mobile EU citizens) and, since 2010, EU28 countries have received on average 43% of the world’s new asylum applications.
  • Yet, the EU continues to underachieve on attracting high-skilled talent. Labour migration to the EU27 has fallen by more than half since 2008 and accounts for just 15% of total immigration. More than half of legal migration flows into EU Member States are driven by family reunification – mainly marriage migration – or humanitarian grounds.

The following is drawn from the paper’s “worst case” scenario on migration, called “Destitute fortress Europe”:

  • More EU Member States harden their line over immigration, so that immigration flows are drastically reduced, even as many of Europe’s best brains emigrate to the US and Asia-Pacific region, attracted by strong economic growth, technological leadership and easier access to finance. Economic growth stagnates in these Member States, and public finances prove unable to cope with higher dependency ratios, putting more people at risk of poverty.
  • Because some EU Member States remain more open to migration and refugees, ‘hard-line’ countries close off their borders, withdrawing from the Schengen area. Anti-migrant and xenophobic discourse in these countries drives discrimination against existing migrant communities – including second and third generation migrants – in turn prompting or reinforcing the development of parallel societies and even radicalisation.

We note here the schizophrenia in official thinking which is rampant among the metropolitan classes across the West. On the one hand, opposition to immigration is interpreted as irrational, hateful, and will lead to ethno-religious conflict. On the other, it is discretely acknowledged that mass non-European immigration (African/Islamic, in particular) is leading to “the development of parallel societies and even radicalisation” (a euphemism for the Islamist terrorists who have murdered hundreds of innocent Europeans in recent years, not to mention supposedly unremarkable apolitical petty criminality, rapes, and homicides committed by these groups).

You would think that the first step in preventing the emergence of migrant “parallel societies” would be, at least, to halt the flow of people coming in. Because here’s the thing, today’s Afro-Islamic “parallel societies” will be tomorrow’s majority society across Western Europe. And, on current trends, that will probably happen within 50 years.

Democracy & Euroskepticism

Finally, the report notes that mainstream parties and liberal regimes are in decline.

This section strikingly shows the tension between liberalism/globalism, which are a set of a values which have been imposed on the West in a top-down fashion, and democracy, which has no values as such, but merely refers to the majority will. Hence all the handwringing among liberal elites about “illiberal democracy” or “national(ist) democracy,” that is to say, when a government adopts policies which the majority of the people want but which liberals disapprove of.

This section warns of “foreign meddling” and “echo chambers,” and of the opportunities for “digital democracy,” “engag[ing] citizens,” and even “civil servants increasingly becom[ing] ambassadors for a revitalised discussion about the EU.”

Critics have argued that genuine democracy and media/ideological/political pluralism simply means chaos and impotence of the kind the Weimar Republic became notorious for. Our liberal-democrats are hypocritical, it is argued, because their regime only worked precisely to the degree democracy was limited, notably through the top-down imposition of an elite consensus through the dominant political parties and the media. Democracy as such is an agnostic regime which does not enable a society to live up to right values (for instance, ecological ones, as we see today). Democracy without conformism, which in recent decades has conveniently been provided by our televisions, is quite unworkable.

We shall see if prolonged political mess, which seems quite likely in the coming years, leads our elites to a principled critique of parliamentary democracy, as was popular in the 1920s, and not just on the far-left and far-right.

The EU is a confederation of social-democratic statelets dedicated to the pursuit of purchasing power and impossible equality. This is antonymous with great effort. Europe’s geopolitical and socio-economic inferiority to the Anglosphere is here to stay. Our human capital is what it is, as is our division into nations and states, in the absence of a successful conqueror (the unhappy Napoleonic and Hitlerian adventures).

Of course, there is a well-known recipe to maximize a nation’s geopolitical potential: a popular Bonapartism. For any nation in the world, I cannot think of a better regime than one which is ecumenical, steady, and eugenic, that is to say paternal and enlightened in the best sense. This kind of regime would benefit Congo or Iraq – where millions have died amidst democratic chaos – as much as it would Europe.

I am convinced Europeans would not even contest the European Union if they were convinced Brussels was on their side (economically, culturally, demographically, and otherwise), if the motto were: “Europe for Europeans!” But as things stand, this would require an intellectual revolution the metropolitan classes are unwilling to make. The urbanites love themselves for embracing the world and fear their kinsmen the proles.

Geopolitically, Europe today is much like France in nineteenth and early twentieth centuries: significant, but only by living at the expense of the past achievements and millennia of capital (cultural, biological…) accumulated by better generations, and thus steadily declining.

Still, there was a moderate renewal of French power in the Twentieth Century, notably with the postwar trentes glorieuses economic boom and her exceptional Baby Boom. And we should not forget that great reversals of power dynamics are common through history: witness the rise of the United States from an insignificant colony to the world’s superpower or the vagaries of Prussian-German history.

Europe cannot know greatness for the foreseeable future. However, Europe could become more cohesive, more self-confident, more self-sufficient, harmoniously developing and consolidating . . . like a vast Japan, though ideally one in which the most gifted Europeans would have many children. Really, that would be quite fine on this Earth which is overloaded with excess humanity.

 
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  1. An excellent summary. Many thanks!

    As to China’s military budget overtaking the EU’s, I suspect that it has already overtaken America’s.

    Nominally, it will match the US defense budget eight years hence in 2028, if current ratios hold:

    But that assumes that PPP dollars buy the same number of howitzers, fighters and missiles in the US as in China.

    Clearly, they do not. China’s defense firms are government owned, use mass production techniques (their submarine factory produces six subs simultaneously), are famously cost- and time-thrifty, spend nothing on lobbying, and seek no rents or profits.

    I’m guessing that China’s 2020 defense budget will afford them more bang for their bucks than ours. Talk about a peer competitor!

    • Agree: romar
    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @eah
    , @Really No Shit
    , @FvS
  2. A123 says:

    Germany has been strangling the EU causing the economies to shrink and European Christians to suffer (1):

    Sadly, instead of acting as a constructive member of the international community, Germany is running its own economy into the ground by allowing demand and output to stagnate for most of last year – and just barely managing to eke out a 0.6% growth rate.

    … a beggar-thy-neighbor country with a virtually dead economy, a nearly 2% of GDP budget surplus and by far the world’s largest trade surplus of $290 billion — a textbook case of an economy that should vigorously expand its demand management policy.

    Germany’s systematic failure … has drawn a devastating market verdict.

    The numbers that GD presents are only an accurate prediction if EU nations willingly remain sheeple under Mutti Mullah Merkel’s oppressive Globalist, Muslim mass-migration theology.

    Christian Populist nations in the EU, notably Hungary and Poland are doing well. The EU can prosper if the IslamoGlobalists and their “Go Woke — Go Broke” policies can be pushed out. Ending the destruction of Greta-nomics, Wind & Solar fantasies, would result in an immediate economic boost.

    The bulk of the EU wants to be rid of failing elite Globalist rule from Berlin. The questions are:

    — Can they force Germans out of positions of power?
    — Or, even better — Can they force Germany entirely out of the EU?

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/17/german-economic-policys-heavy-cost-on-europe-and-the-us-commentary.html

    • Replies: @antibeast
  3. Why are “Americans” obsessed with Europe?

    Grudge?

    I’m a second generation immigrant born in Europe and I don’t like what I’m reading all over the internet

    Btw the Palestinians complain about a no quality immigrant debacle since 1913-ish

  4. I think I finally get it! Useless black brown mouths vs 💶 reparations…..

  5. Fascinating article, but it shows how badly the EU is out of touch.

    Our human capital is what it is, as is our division into nations and states, in the absence of a successful conqueror (the unhappy Napoleonic and Hitlerian adventures).

    The EU already has a unified internal market. Even if Europeans decided to give up their countries and languages and all speak French, the remaining cultural differences would be huge. The Union has not led to cultural convergence. Its architects seemed to expect that the EU would make Greeks “catch up” economically by becoming more like Germans, but why should they have imagined such a thing? We would not expect the same Union to make Germans more like Greeks.

    Of course, there is a well-known recipe to maximize a nation’s geopolitical potential: a popular Bonapartism. For any nation in the world, I cannot think of a better regime than one which is ecumenical, steady, and eugenic, that is to say paternal and enlightened in the best sense.

    There are two really bad ideas that have cursed the EEC/EC/EU since its beginning. One is the notion of benevolent technocratic rule. The other is the politician’s dream of ruling the continent as Napoleon.

    These two ideas have led to a damaging overreach, the most extreme example of which is the Euro. The imposition of a single currency on disparate economies has led to economic stagnation across an entire continent, and it will cause global financial chaos when a member country eventually decides to leave. When the currency was introduced, Romano Prodi declared that it was “destiny”. The quote has been memory-holed, probably because “destiny” for the political class amounted to economic stagnation for everybody else.

  6. songbird says:

    They are content to manage the decline.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  7. Cowboy says:

    Anytime you hear about a report on the “common good” you know you’re fucked as an individual. Why don’t we ever have reports on the uncommon good?

  8. Alligator says:

    So Ron Unz got some guys here, hmm? But he implied they were just out of the norm, not shit implanted here! This guy “Guillaume Durocher” is somebody nobody ever heard before, is clearly not French but clearly Hungarian Jewish! So much for “alt-French”!

  9. Miro23 says:

    I am convinced Europeans would not even contest the European Union if they were convinced Brussels was on their side (economically, culturally, demographically, and otherwise), if the motto were: “Europe for Europeans!”

    Agree with this. The problem is that the EU (same as the US) is in bed with Zio-Globalist special interest elites who want to financialize and outsource everything. They have their own political agendas (e.g. mass immigration and Middle East wars) that have nothing at all to do with the wellbeing of historic national European populations.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  10. Avrier says:

    @James Kennett
    According to Durocher,it is : “to maximize a nation’s geopolitical potential” and not a very diverse continental conglomerate
    The internal market,today too wide and too heterogeneous , is unsustainable although efficient when limited to France,Italy,Germany and Benelux which was more or less the Napoleonic sphere of influence

  11. Avrier says:

    @ Durocher

    To maximize a nation,no better than a “Despotisme éclairé” with Colbertism as an economy policy

  12. antibeast says:
    @A123

    I agree with you that Germany should do more to balance the uneven economic development of the EU. However, your suggestion to “force out” Germans from Brussels and Germany from the EU is non-sense. Without Germany’s industrial powerhouse and with BREXIT, the EU would be not be economically viable as it would be left with a few Nordic countries plus France and Italy to compensate for the economic underperformance of the rest of the EU. The article hardly mentions the biggest elephant in the room which is the USA and its dominance of European Security through its control of NATO. More than Muslim refugees or African migrants which pose social problems to White Christian Europe, the structural problems of present-day EU and NATO geopolitical structures would harm European economic interests in the long term. Ethnic scapegoating by populist demagogues do not address but deflect these fundamental issues affecting the geopolitical architecture of Europe in the post-Cold War era.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Anonymous
  13. How about the black woman from Africa who lectured a white audience that “Europe is not White”, “Europe is not white man, too”, “There is no Democracy without ethnic minorities”.

    The worse part was the white audience applauding her as her handler stands next to her (he looks suspiciously like one of those Zionist tribal members).

    See the video on Youtube.

    Called “Europe is Not White”

    Having said that, the Globalization of the Planet by the Elites cannot be downplayed here. They are re-structuring the planet and implementing a World Wide Technological Totalitarian system. It’s unfolding right in front of our eyes. Once they have it set up they will likely use Lab-Created Virus to clean out the populations.

    The current Coronovirus could very well be a Drill of some sort. I thought it was interesting that a Cruise Ship became a target; which is a favorite for Elderly people to frequent. That Virus is designed to be more deadly to the elderly and others who are health compromised.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @eah
    , @TheJewishQuestion
  14. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:

    As the report notes, the EU is increasingly … Attracting low-quality and “non-economic” migrants.

    How come the EU-honchos can point out the obvious with impunity, but whenever we do it, it’s ‘racism’? They could’ve saved all sorts of time and money on this blue-ribbon report and just asked the man in the street what’s wrong with the EU and they would’ve gotten the exact same answers!

    • Replies: @Poco
  15. eah says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    I’m guessing that China’s 2020 defense budget will afford them more bang for their bucks than ours. Talk about a peer competitor!

    Hmm, “ours” — whose side are you on again?

    Anyway, a thoughtful person — I’m not completely sure you are one — might wonder if wasting wealth created by its people on increased military spending by China, including on weapons which will never be used, and contribute nearly nothing to the well-being of the average Chinese, represents a kind of progress (which you imply), or is really a positive development for that country — it all seems mostly regrettable to me.

  16. Rather hilariously, German voters seem to care more about climate change than demographic change, as evidenced by the fact that the German Green Party is polling higher than AfD.

    http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/forsa.htm

    And when I say ‘German voters, I do actually mean ethnically German voters. It is likely that the vast majority of AfD and Grüne voters are ethnically German, and Greens are polling at 24% while AfD are polling at 10%

    Furthermore, AfD only won 5% of the vote in the Hamburg state elections yesterday. Of course AfD support is much higher in the East than in the West but the AfD still lost one seat. Greens meanwhile gained 16 seat.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Hamburg_state_election

    Not that any of this matters, since the NSDAP affair, no German parties form coalitions with other parties that are perceived to be a bit too far to the right. As such Germany will most definitely abolish itself before the voting masses realise things are not going well.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anon
    , @Yahya
  17. PeterMX says:

    It is good that they are discussing their decline which has been steady since the 1970’s but it might be too late. I think there are several problems. One is the apparent lack of knowledge of just how far Europe was ahead of the rest of the world prior to 1945 and the other problem is that they deliberately downplay their own achievements and world leadership in different areas that lasted for at least several centuries because to recognize this leadership is somehow “racist” or “white supremacist”. And to be clear, when I say Europe lead the world, that includes being far ahead of the USA, which had great industrial output from its factories, benefitting greatly from the vast amounts of natural resources the US had like oil, while countries like Germany had almost no natural resources, but in pure science the US was a nothing.

    This might help explain why Germany was the leader in science and technology by far, far ahead of its competitors in the sciences and engineering, as reflected in the number of Nobel Prizes Germans received thru 1945 and some years afterwards. Inventiveness often comes out of necessity. Germany’s closest competitors were England, France and Italy. The US only became a science power as a result of emigration of some scientists from Europe in the late 1930’s. Every key scientist that worked on the Manhattan Project to build the atomic bomb was a European émigré except for the project leader Oppenheimer, and he received his PHD from Germany’s University of Göttingen a few years earlier. I could go on but I’ll leave it at that. Why do I go into such detail? Because I have heard highly educated people, including scientists that are unaware that the US only became a science powerhouse beginning in WW II and afterwards when many Europeans came to the USA. After the war, it was the German rocket scientists and engineers like Werner von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and many others that lead the project to put the US on the moon.

    If Europe starts to recognize the seriousness of just how far they have fallen, they might stop implementing self destructive policies and start thinking seriously about how they can become truly competitive again.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  18. gotmituns says:

    The EU/Common Market was the Nazis brainchild.

  19. eah says:
    @freedom-cat

    How about the black woman from Africa who lectured a white audience that “Europe is not White”, “Europe is not white man, too”, “There is no Democracy without ethnic minorities”.

    The worse part was the white audience applauding her as her handler stands next to her (he looks suspiciously like one of those Zionist tribal members).

    See the video on Youtube.

    Called “Europe is Not White”

    Also you can find on this website:

    Dark Days in France — Besieged Macron Regime Passing Legislation to Ban Free Speech on Social Media

    Not sure the pun “Dark Days in France” was intended.

    … Every regime under siege has a choice: improve its performance and unify the country or . . . crack down on critical opposition. The Macron regime has decidedly opted for the latter, proposing yet another law to destroy that pesky last bastion of free speech in France: the Internet.

    The person charged with drafting this new legislation is Laetitia Avia, an MP of Togolese descent, …

    So basically the French will have a black African woman overseeing/dictating to them what “hate” is, and what can and cannot be said on the internet.

    Laetitia Avia: The new face of libertidical “French” “Republic”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @freedom-cat
  20. @Alligator

    Think a little bit. How often are we Yankees told to “be more like Europe”? How often did we hear “Europeans are kicking our ass in —“?
    You have to admit a problem exists before you can effectively deal with it.

  21. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    They have their own political agendas (e.g. mass immigration and Middle East wars) that have nothing at all to do with the wellbeing of historic national European populations.

    That’s putting it lightly. Historic national European populations are getting genocided as we speak, and it’s no accident that the footsoldiers for this project were brought from the worst shitholes on the planet. These “guests” can’t be anything other than a destructive force even if they wanted to – which they don’t. Therefore, if this is not reversed, the continent is doomed to sink under the weight of declining IQs, disunity and eventual carnage.

    The Jews sold this plan to their shabbos goy Western “elites” as a great way to keep the unwashed rabble divided and easier to control (and the rabble got served a different pack of lies about vibrancy, values and recipes). The real Jewish goal was to simply genocide the white Amalek race but the story was somewhat plausible to the “elites” in the context of One World Government. You see – in the One World Government system – there are no outside competitors or rivals. In that psychopath’s utopia, the only danger to the rulers can be internal so lording over dumb and divided goyim can be seen as desirable.

    Fortunately, their plans are unravelling. The world is becoming multi-polar even faster now because they’ve undermined their own source of power (people) and the goyim everywhere are getting very, very restless.

    Unfortunately, they’ll almost certainly start WW3 in desperation.

    • Agree: Miro23, Digital Samizdat
  22. @eah

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    The wellbeing of the Chinese depends upon China not being invaded/bombed/bullied, and China devotes a smaller % of GDP than any major power to ensuring its security.

    As to progress, next year every Chinese will own a home and have an income, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health insurance, a pension, and old age care. By then, three-hundred thousand urban Chinese will have more net worth and disposable income than the average American, their mothers and infants will be less likely to die in childbirth, their children will graduate from high school three years ahead of ours and live longer, healthier lives.

    Tragically, there will be more drug addicts, suicides and executions, more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China and the world will look to China, not us, for leadership.

    China’s economy will continue growing three times faster than ours–as it has done for seventy years–its military budget will surpass ours in 2028; its economy will be bigger than the West’s combined by 2035 when its society will be the most equal on earth. If current trends continue it will lead the world in all sciences and technologies by 2049.

    From the Chinese POV, what’s not to like?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Alden
  23. @freedom-cat

    “The current Coronavirus could very well be a Drill of some sort”.

    Agreed. I assumed the same when the Coronavirus first broke out and the only fatalities were the elderly and ethnic Chinese. The elites are probably carefully assessing the strengths and weakness of the responses of various countries in preparation for more deadly ‘outbreaks’. The ebola, Sars, etc ‘outbreaks’ were probably similar test runs for future pandemics to achieve the UN Agenda 21 depopulation targets (95% reduction by 2030 according to some sources). Civil war and inter-ethnic conflicts will finish off what is left any civilization before the full implementation of Agenda 21, hence mass importation of violent Africans and Muslims, rather than more civilized Japanese etc, into the last strongholds of resistence in the Western world.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/what-exactly-agenda-21

  24. @PeterMX

    The US went to the moon? Are you referring to a manned trip to the moon? Do tell…

    • Replies: @PeterMX
  25. A123 says:
    @antibeast

    Without Germany’s industrial powerhouse and with BREXIT, the EU would be not be economically viable as it would be left with a few Nordic countries plus France and Italy to compensate for the economic underperformance of the rest of the EU.

    An EU/EZ free of German manipulation would be highly viable. Germany intentionally abuses other EU members by running export surpluses with everyone. This distorts the value of the Euro currency and keeps other nations dependant on German handouts. A Euro currency free of German manipulation would have value much more realistic for international trade.

    If AfD became the leading party in Germany perhaps structural change could happen. Unfortunately that is still decades away. The sharia compliant Green party under the Prophet Greta is gaining strength and wants to keep and dig deeper every mistake made by Mutti Mullah Merkel.

    Given that Germany is embracing a neo-Luddite world view, it is hard is see how the EU can make progress under German rule. Any hope of survival is dependant of restructuring the EU/EZ to contain the imminent threat of IslamoGlobalism from the Dark Heart of Europe.

    PEACE 😇

  26. @eah

    Should we really be ignoring the part about the lack of gouging by for-profit private arms makers in China? That is significant in terms of the burden that military spending places on the people (taxpayers) of the country.

    Likewise, should we be ignoring the part about the lack of lobbying by such military profiteers on the government in China? In the US, such lobbying inflates the amount that the government spends on weapons purchases, changes what we purchase, and specifically causes us to keep purchasing weapons systems that are known not work well against the actual current and emerging threats that we face.

    Those two salient differences between US and Chinese military manufacturing, procurement, and strategic planning systems should matter quite a bit to those of us who are net federal taxpayers in the USA. They should matter quite a bit to everyone in the USA, actually, net taxpayers, because the US government is less able to do its supposed job of defending us as a consequence,

    Yes, of course a strong, advanced, reliable military is needed for national defense unless we are to be painfully (suicidally) naive. And yes, we taxpayers should not be fleeced unnecessarily to pay for it. Those facts and principles are not affected by whatever bias or incentives Roberts is laboring under.

    State enterprises should be making and planning our military equipment without any need to turn a profit for shareholders, without exorbitant executive salaries and bonuses, and without any lobbying by for-profit entities. Here, China and Russia have the far preferable approach.

  27. @Just Passing Through

    Trenchant analysis, JPT. Only one amendment: Germans know perfectly well that things are going badly, indeed dangerously. They just won’t admit it, to themselves or others.

    Hopefully they wake up and fight back in time, inshallah (to use a term that their grandchildren, few that there are, will know well).

  28. Kim says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    China has no oil. It has only low-quality coal. Yet there has never been a global hegemon that was not also energy independent and energy dominant.

    2049? Do you really believe that thirty years from now the global economic or geopolitical picture will in any respect resemble what we are looking at today?

    If so, then you are clearly not aware of some basic facts about the world’s energy production situation.

    Just one factoid for you to chew on: since 2008, almost the entirety of any increases in the world’s oil production has been from US shale oil. Yes, shale oil, that unsustainable and uneconomic fraud entirely reliant on low interest rates.

    Do you understand what that means? It means that the cheap surplus energy that created the modern world is on the way out. It means that the dreams of globalism and infinite growth are coming to an end before our eyes and that the politburo’s vision of a Chinese century is nothing but a chimera.

    Reasonable predictions about what 2049 will bring must begin with a reasonable statement as to what forms of energy will be available to the world. And that won’t include oil.

  29. Z-man says:

    The enlightened stupid Western European countries should follow the lead of their smarter Eastern brothers and block all third world immigration. Caronavirus and Ebola are the only things those immigrants bring in (contribute)!

  30. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact about Euro immigration is that it is not as easy as ppl on the right think for those outside of the former colonies of the given country. Most Euro countries, even Britain, do not offer many paths to permanent residency and work authorization. You basically have to be greatly skilled, an English teacher, an entrepreneur, or a worker in an industry with labor shortage (like chemical engineering in some obscure sector).

    If that isn’t bad enough, the language issue remains. Not many potential immigrants are going to go through the long, difficult path of learning Italian, when learning English is a much better option.

    However, Euro countries are humanitarian; they take in refugees.

    This is the source of the low-quality immigrant issue.

    I have a solution.

    I wish that Europe would create a specific policy for North Americans. Let us come as a slave class, and do not have harsh rules on language proficiency. I would rather be a slave in Europe than a freeman in the USA. This would allow whites to return “home,” and there are two types who want that: those who believe in giving the land back to natives, and whites who want to flee White Extinction Through Amalgamation. (Or those of us that are in both camps!) These whites would surely be better biomaterial than the current Euro immigrants. The former group are especially high in empathy.

    You do not need to worry that you will have the right-wing cretins in the USA forced on your countries, they will prefer to fight their pointless race war (literally with guns in their semiannual mass shootings) eternally. Cretin USA right-wingers (there are a lot in this very comment section) are also too dumb to realize that there is no possible future in the USA for them, which means they will not see a reason to sell themselves into Euro slavery. They will continue trying to create some white ethnostate in North America.

    Having a slave class would surely boost the economy, as well. It would also allow the forcing of Euro culture on the slaves.

    I apologize for typos, this is from my phone.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  31. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Josep Borrel, EU top diplomat’.

    Now, that’s the silly cunt who recommended MASSIVE uncontrolled black African immigration into the EU on the grounds, in his words, that “Europe needs new blood’

    The EU is run by shit like Borrel. The scum always rises. What, with cunts like Timmermans, Verhofstadt, Bonino, Malmstrom, Mandelson et al in charge. That’s why Brexit was right.

    • Agree: Alfred, YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @77sunsetstrip
  32. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    Rubbish.

    In the way of all things, NATO and the USA, are here in Europe today, but, in historical terms, they will be gone tomorrow – Guaranteed.

    The blacks and browns will be on European soil forever – and more than likely telling real Europeans – white Europeans – what to do.

    ‘Scapegoating’ or ‘not scapegoating’ if Europe – that is European people – is to survive, these profoundly alien populations must be removed.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @antibeast
  33. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just Passing Through

    Any sort of nationalism or racialism is going to be impossible in Germany. The have a moral debt of immeasurable proportions, and they have accepted it, unlike the US South.

    The US South is not exactly doing awesome by denying their historical debt, either. The German way is probably better in the end, for the psychological, social, and economic health of the people. At least modern Germans can view themselves positively as individuals, if not as a nation.

    But either way, the point is that a happy and proud country cannot exist after committing massive evil. Let this be a lesson to crazy right-wingers who consider crazy solutions to things that bother them.

    Also, some nations cannot exist. Some nations screw themselves up so badly that they cannot recover, morally. Germany must die; I hope a path can exist for Germans to immigrate to similar Euro countries and be absorbed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Vaterland
  34. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    Mon Dieu!

    She is ugly!

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
  35. Alfred says:

    On energy, Europe has decoupled economic growth from carbon emissions

    That is another way of saying that swapping bits of paper and keystrokes have increased but that there is no more movement than before. No more investment in things that produce real tangible wealth. No more goods moving or people moving. It is stagnation – not growth.

    In Paris a coffee costs $6. In Moscow, it would cost $3. But that does not mean that the first coffee represents twice as much economic activity. When the price of the Paris coffee goes up by $2, it does not mean that wealth creation has increased by 33%. These statistics are a nonsense.

    Energy consumption is a much better indicator of economic activity.

  36. Anon[263] • Disclaimer says:

    is it about white future, or EU future? That’s different thing.
    Forget about the making more white babies thing, it won’t happen!
    For the long run, USA is not the future for white. West Europe neither.
    So if it’s about the white future, white just flee to East Europe, accept and invest the Slavic.

    If it’s about EU future. emm
    To make one unity from many nations, you need one strong leading nation to do it quickly, or else you need at least three balancing nations to do it slowly.

    In the past, EU got the three: France, Germany, UK
    In the future, EU need to get rid of France/Germany(so that only one functional leader left), or else EU need to invite Russia (so balance will be recovered).

    Though its really hard to realize the target, I found the answer for future of both white and EU:
    RUSSIA

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  37. @Kim

    You make an excellent and often overlooked point. Other than solar and wind energy, which cannot meet demand in most places and are variable anyway, energy resources are finite. Even nuclear energy requires the use of finite elements and poses a very difficult challenge for safe storage of the resultant waste.

    However, and I’m definitely no expert here, it doesn’t seem like a sure bet that China will seriously decline due to lack of energy by 2049. They have multi-decade contracts to buy oil and gas from Russia.

    Also, it is unclear what would prevent China from TAKING the oil and natural gas it needs — if enough remains — from middle eastern countries, from Nigeria, or from Venezuela, by military force or threat (including aerial and naval blockade). None of the aforementioned countries with substantial natural energy resources has nuclear weapons, and all of them combined are no match militarily for China even now.

    Nor can we assume that the USA would be both able and willing to prevent China from doing this 25 years from now, at least without use of nuclear weapons.

    China doesn’t even need to invade and occupy those countries. Instead, it can use its military supremacy to require those countries to sell all energy resources to China, and none to Europe, the UK, Japan, or North America. How long would any of our economies and militaries last with China claiming all those countries’ energy exports for itself? I’d certainly do it if I were ruling China and my people’s survival and standard of living depended on it.

    Before we hit the wall of finite energy resources, we ought to be ending net immigration to the USA. We could survive better, much longer, with a stable population that uses ever less fossil fuel per person. We cannot survive and live decently with an ever growing population that remains careless with fossil fuel burning.

    We should also be mandating reduced consumption of fossil fuels here, building more solar capacity in the locales where it is feasible (without regard to whether it is monetarily profitable — this is life and death). Probably also should expand nuke power capacity, as much as that worries me.

    • Agree: BlackFlag
    • Replies: @A123
    , @Alfred
    , @Kim
  38. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Either way, Germany is fucked.

    Better to go out in a blaze of glory, with all guns blazing than to meekly become the sheep of your new black/brown overlords.

    A Europe – and everything in it – molten into glass -, is preferable to a black/brown run Europe.

  39. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Well, that’s all news to me!

    Every single day in London, more and more ‘new people’ blow in. Numpties the lot of them. Barely able to speak English. Their ‘skilled’ contribution to the economy is being Deliveroo moped riders. Pakis by the ton, also these days a vast vast number of Brazilians and other Latin Americans. No doubt getting Portuguese or Spanish passports. Seem to be the dumbest, stupidest, most dim witted people on the planet. Only talent is to block shop doorways while wandering around in a seeming stupor and looking at the floor. Loud jibber jabber. Questionable body odor and personal hygiene – even, shamefully, on the women.

    • Replies: @Anon
  40. @Anon

    Russia should not even consider any political union with suicidal Europeans.

    Russia should write off Europe entirely as a serious civilizational, economic, and military force.

    Engage in diplomacy, engage in tourism in both directions, work together against pollution, islamic terrorism, and US aggression (sad to say this), to be sure. But don’t expect much from Europe. They are an aging, dying, demoralized, and self-hating people. Many white people and other potentially productive intelligent people in my USA are equally hopeless.

    I would hope that Russia would do much what Putin seems to be doing, but more: induce ethnic russians to have many more children than they do now, induce (nonMuslim, nonJewish) white and Eurasian people to settle in the RF (especially Slavs where possible), reduce per capita fossil fuel consumption, further increase agricultural self-sufficiency, move away from reliance on western banks and financial systems, rely less on western internet infrastructure and providers (without moving to reliance on China), and further improve defensive capabilities.

    Also seems that Russia (and the USA) should ban the export of precious minerals and water. Plan ahead for a change, and keep the necessities of life, and modern life, for our own peoples.

    Good luck to Russia and my country, the USA. We will need it.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  41. AaronB says:

    To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: 2. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; 3.

    Now is the time for Europe to rest.

    China for business, Europe for contemplation. China for ambition, Europe for contentment. China for money, Europe for the spirit. China for the grind, Europe for the good life.

    Its the nest turn of the wheel. In a century or two the wheel will turn again.

  42. Yet, the EU continues to underachieve on attracting high-skilled talent. Labour migration to the EU27 has fallen by more than half since 2008 and accounts for just 15% of total immigration. More than half of legal migration flows into EU Member States are driven by family reunification – mainly marriage migration – or humanitarian grounds.

    This is actually the one thing the EU states have going for them.

    Although this goes against kneejerk Boomerisms (“They come here to work and pay taxes!”), high-skilled talented immigrants are far more dangerous for a country than the dregs of the scum. The latter merely become criminals or welfare bums. Managing them is a matter of police action, or military at the very worst. The brilliant entrepreneurs, meanwhile, seamlessly infiltrate the economy, media and government bureaucracy, help others of their kin gain entree, and so begin to transmogrify the whole society in their own image. And become all the harder to dislodge because they are successful in the one field our degenerate society values — that is, economically. “What, you want to kick out people who work and pay taxes? The country couldn’t function without them!”

    If one witnesses the American example, the United States received a great number of immigrants from many nations before 1900, but two in particular have been extremely destructive. One produces great numbers of welfare bums and sportsball athletes, the other supplies lawyers, bankers and Hollywood producers. Which one has been, is, and is likely to remain by far the greater problem?

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  43. A123 says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Even nuclear energy requires the use of finite elements and poses a very difficult challenge for safe storage of the resultant waste.

    Thorium is extracted with other rare earth during mining and is currently treated as waste. So much Thorium is available that the DOE is burying unused fuel in the Nevada desert. (1)

    When consumed in Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors [LFTR] waste is 1/10th of 1% of the waste generated by current U235 Light Water Reactors [LWR].

    Despite this technology being developed by the U.S. in the 60’s and 70’s, other nations are beating the U.S. senseless on this front: (2)

    Researchers at NRG, a Dutch firm, have started work on a fission generator that would be the first active thorium salt reactor since the closure of a reactor at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in the early 70s.

    This is huge for several reasons. First, is that this means, of course, we can do more science and delve deeper into the mysteries of nuclear power than we ever have before. But second, and probably more important to most, is that thorium reactors have a massive advantage over the ones most of us are familiar with — they can’t melt down. Fukushima wouldn’t have happened. Neither would Three Mile Island or Chernobyl if we’d been using these.

    Very low cost, zero carbon emission, *safe* electricity is very achievable. However, it means moving out established oligarchs. Something the U.S. is quite bad at.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://energyfromthorium.com/2006/07/07/how-to-throw-away-eight-years-worth-of-electricity/

    (2) From 2017: https://www.geek.com/science/first-new-thorium-salt-reactor-in-40-years-comes-online-1713296/

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Godfree Roberts
  44. Alfred says:
    @A123

    Wow. Thorium. Great idea. 🙂

    I wonder why the engineers, accountants and scientists forgot about it?

    Just goes to show how stupid these people are and how smart A123 is.

    So much Thorium is available that the DOE is burying unused fuel in the Nevada desert.

    The cost of the fuel uranium/thorium is a negligible part of the total cost of running a reactor. Anyway, there are almost unlimited amounts of uranium available. Uranium is also a by-product of mining other products.

    Uranium as by-product from mining for other minerals

    When you are driving a Ferrari that costs $300,000, you don’t worry about the gas tax in California (47.3c/gallon).

    • Replies: @A123
  45. @RadicalCenter

    From the realpolitik perspective, it is in Russia’s interest to see Europe decline as Europe has proven time and time again to function as nothing but the cutting edge in America’s assault on Russia.

    White Nationalists buy into this nonsense of ‘based Russia’, the truth is that Russians feel no real cameraderie with Western Europeans. They do with Slavonic people as these lot have not rejected religion and religion is, like it or not, a binding glue for the racial state.

    Russia might promote White Nationalist groups, but this is only to foment trouble in the West, just like they helped Black radicals during the civil rights era, not out of some altruism for minorities, but to undermine the West.

    The West will become the new Brazil, it will not really fade into insignificance and will still have some good industries (Brazil has Embraer for example), but it won’t be what it once was. Now it will be masses of competing ethnic groups with an Inner Party ruling elite (mostly Jews and Gentile Whites) lording over all.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anonymous
  46. Ma Laoshi says:
    @eah

    I work in China; even so (or maybe just because I see it on the ground), sometimes Mr. Roberts seems off the deep end in how rose-colored pro-China he is. That said, have you missed or forgotten how China’s billions of investment into the Libyan energy sector were smashed to bits by the Dark Throne, with great buy-in from the EU? Did you similarly overlook how basically any country without weapons to defend itself is bulldozed over? Already a small Chinese contingent is doing its part to keep the barbarians at bay in Venezuela, so that China can have some energy partners that are not completely under Washington’s control.

    China is already under ferocious attack from the Anglosphere, though interestingly the EU is more neutral in this dossier. They absolutely need a capable military, at a minimum for deterrence, but just as likely they’ll have to bust a few skulls to keep Uncle Sam’s dirty paws off their OBOR projects.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @utu
  47. Alfred says:
    @RadicalCenter

    building more solar capacity in the locales where it is feasible (without regard to whether it is monetarily profitable — this is life and death).

    I have some sunshine that only shows up occasionally in the winter and by daytime that I would like to sell to you. Great deal!

    All you have to do is turn off your PC, fridge and a zillion other things when the sun is not shining. Sorry, the numbers don’t add up, please don’t forget to give me a massive subsidy so that I can run coal-fired power stations on backup – just hot enough for a quick start when the sun is behind a cloud. Shame that these dinosaurs never reach their design efficiency. But what can you expect with coal?

    https://steemitimages.com/p/C3TZR1g81UNaPs7vzNXHueW5ZM76DSHWEY7onmfLxcK2iPEeAo97zYdbQQwtq3AynkDGEi2M22NKsYAGV9sfZRgarJvEpWLnoRZG5xNtscSL2ttdB2NzUri?format=match&mode=fit&width=640

  48. antibeast says:
    @Anonymous

    What made you think that US Imperialism serve the interests of White Christian Europe? Almost everything the USA has gone in the geopolitical arena after the Fall of the Soviet Union has been detrimental to White Christian Europe. And yet all these so-called “White Nationalists” don’t or won’t attack the biggest elephant in the room which is the role of US Imperialism in destabilizing Eastern Europe and the Middle East while constantly antagonizing Russia. How come nobody talks about the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty which poses an existential threat to Europe? The USA has unilaterally decided to deploy tactical nuke missiles which were banned under the INF Treaty and all these Euro-cucks care about is the “Muslim Invasion”.

  49. A123 says:
    @Alfred

    You need to brush up on your history before you jump to unsupportable conclusions.

    The Cold War MIC elites (over the objections of engineers, accountants and scientists) suppressed LFTR as it did not produce material for nukes.

    Your stat about Uranium as a byproduct of Rare Earth extraction is also very misleading. As mined:

    — Thorium is near 100% Th232 — The correct isotope for fuel use.
    — Uranium is mostly U238 isotope — Not useful as fuel without expensive purification & enrichment to reach 3-5% U235.

    PEACE 😇

  50. @Alfred

    Of course the numbers add up. A mere 1% of the sahara could power the earth, using present day technology. You don’t gave to do this in one spot of course. Yes there’s a storage problem but interconnectors across Europe for instance will ensure that when it’s not sunny in Spain but windy in Norway the electricity still flows.

    Oil isn’t running out either.

    • Replies: @Kim
  51. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    all these so-called “White Nationalists” don’t or won’t attack the biggest elephant in the room

    Please stop pretending that you understand anything about Western populism or White Nationalism.

  52. antibeast says:
    @A123

    Again, I agree with you that Germany exploits the Eurozone as a captive market for its exports while using the undervalued Euro to generate huge trade surpluses with the rest of the world. The German economy dominates the Eurozone hands down with its superior manufacturing, technology and industrial base while the underperforming EU member-states depend upon German Capital for their economic livelihood and German-funded EU handouts for their social welfare. There is really nothing that the EU can do about this except help upgrade the technical skills of the EU workforce so they can be as competitive in the global economy as the Germans.

    The rest of your post does not address the issues that Macron raised which is the need for Europe to build its own Army independent of the USA. That’s the only way that Europe can stand on its own in global affairs and ensure its regional security. French leadership of Europe is actually more preferable (and palatable) than German hegemony which treats the Eurozone as its economic colony.

    • Replies: @A123
  53. JUSA says:

    The idea that non-whites can be “European” is just retarded. No one will ever look at an African/Asian/Indian/Muslim and genuinely believe they are “German”, “Scandinavian”, “Spaniard”, “Englishman” or “Frenchman” regardless of what passport they hold. The best thing that could come out of this coronavirus disaster is an end to globalism. All non-whites need to be repatriated back to their home continents, out of Europe, North America and Oceania.

    All countries need to become self-sufficient, produce what they consume. Globalization is a failed experiment. Enlightened globetrotting travelers bring deadly viruses all over the world. Globalistards who love international travels or think money is more important than national/cultural identity need to move to Asia/Africa/Latin America or wherever they think the money is. Goodbye and good riddance.

    • Agree: Z-man, Digital Samizdat
  54. d dan says:
    @eah

    “… increased military spending by China, including on weapons which will never be used”

    LOL. A weapon is “used” when it needs not be used.

    “contribute nearly nothing to the well-being of the average Chinese, represents a kind of progress”

    China was very wealthy, had a huge trade surplus, cared more about the well-being of its people, preferred trading than warring, invested little in military. Guess what happened next? Oops, I am talking about Qing. Opium war 1, Opium War 2, Sino-French war, Sino-Japan war 1, Sino-Japan war 2,…. China is not going to make the same mistake.

    “it all seems mostly regrettable to me.”

    You are talking about a nation that wrote “Arts of War” over 2 thousands years ago. You think they don’t understand war and peace?

    • Agree: Godfree Roberts
    • Replies: @Alden
  55. @Just passing through

    Thank you.

    I do think, though, that the new ruling class in the USA will be Jews, Indians, Chinese, whites, and a smattering of Mexicans due to sheer numbers.

    • Replies: @JUSA
  56. utu says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    Yes, it is forgotten that 30,000 Chinese workers had to be evacuated from Libya when Muammar Gaddafi regime was being brought down by the US and EU.

  57. @Godfree Roberts

    Increasing Chinese military spending isn’t going to improve the life of average Zhou but on the other hand it will invite the ire of the United States and regrettably there would go the Chinese dream à la American dream.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  58. JUSA says:
    @RadicalCenter

    …the new ruling class in the USA will be Jews, Indians, Chinese, whites, and a smattering of Mexicans due to sheer numbers.

    Jews do not share power. Never has throughout history. As Henry Ford warned us a century ago, these people are autocrats who do not believe in democracy. Wake up.

  59. Miro23 says:
    @eah

    I’m guessing that China’s 2020 defense budget will afford them more bang for their bucks than ours. Talk about a peer competitor!

    Hmm, “ours” — whose side are you on again?

    The normal idea is that if you pay for something you own/control it. The Chinese pay for their military and it defends China. Americans pay for their military and it’s deployed by the Zio-Glob elite, mostly to the Middle East wasting trillions of borrowed money.

  60. @JUSA

    It is quite possible Jews will use other groups as puppets to draw the ire of the White goyim away from them.

    Even in this day of low-cost internet and freedom of information, the gullible European goyim will still be enraged at the Muslim politicians in a Muslim ethnic enclave, instead of the people who let them all into the country in the first place.

    • Replies: @anon
  61. @Really No Shit

    If you look at the chart you will see that far from ‘increasing military spending’ China is keeping it at the same historic level as a percentage of GDP.

    China is increasing GDP and, since its population is static, GDP per capita, which does improve the life of the average Zhou to the degree that, as I have been constantly warning, later this year, every Chinese will own a home and have a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health insurance, a pensions, and old age care.

    By then, 300,000,000 urban Chinese will have more net worth and disposable income than the average American, their mothers and infants will be less likely to die in childbirth, their children will graduate from high school three years ahead of American kids and live longer, healthier lives and there will be more drug addicts, suicides and executions, more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China.

    At which point the ire of the US will be utterly irrelevant–as it has been, in fact, for seventy years.

    It’s over.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  62. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @JUSA

    True, their ultimate goal does not include sharing power with the goyim who are considered animals in the human shape.

    A psychopath doesn’t experience the world like a normal person. He sees every act of kindness, trust and fairness as weakness or stupidity.

  63. A123 says:
    @antibeast

    Your response largely missed my point.

    At launch Germany locked in oppression of EZ members by suckering them into Euro currency loaded against them. Look at the thousands of helpless Greek children and elderly mercilessly slaughtered by German Austerity economics. The idea that the Elite Banksters of Globalist Germany can be a constructive power is a pipe dream. German Violence via Finance only benefits corporate giants like DB. This must must end for Europe to succeed.

    As a practical matter control of the Euro currency must be taken away from the German dominated Euro-reich Central Bank in Frankfurt. Germany needs to return to the DMark and free Europe needs the Euro to unwind the inequity that has built up. DMark appreciation will immediately end Germany’s artificial export dominance. German skills and capabilities have been severely degraded by uncontrolled migration and failed energy policy. Rebalancing is likely to be painful until the dead weight can be sent home and green follies can be closed down. Without German Globalism, austerity, and migration strangling the EU, many countries including Greece and Italy will rapidly return to economic growth.
    _____

    Without a Fiscal Union any Currency Union will accumulate pressures. So long term, it is highly likely that the Euro will gracefully end in 10-20 years with everyone going back to their national currencies. This is probably so far off topic it is best discussed as part of another thread.
    _____

    Whatever danger the U.S. creates, the internal hazards are far worse.

    Macron’s brown shirts have been complicit in brutalizing French Citizens, the Yellow Vest protesters. Macron is hurting his people to serve his Globalist master, Mutti Mullah Merkel. Macron’s plan to gain more military weapons is a non-starter. Every weapon Macron gets will first be aimed at a Citizen of France.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @antibeast
  64. Z-man says:
    @JUSA

    The great Henry Ford. Great not only for his Model T but for his illuminating periodical ‘The International Jew’.

  65. JUSA says:

    China exported the coronavirus to the rest of the world by refusing to ground all their outbound flights a month ago. The CCP cares more about money than good will. In trying to act like business as usual and continuing to let their people travel overseas to spread this disease, they are engendering a lot of anger and ill will the world over. As more Europeans, Iranians, Iraqis, Africans etc. die from this virus, the world will turn on China in a hurry. All their goodwill is being wiped out. Ethnic Chinese will not find the welcome mat being rolled out wherever they go. In fact, mainland Chinese are already pariahs in every country, even in Asia. China’s globalist ambitions will take a major setback when this is all said and done.

    Coronavirus 1, Globalism 0.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  66. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @JUSA

    Meh, sounds like wishful thinking from someone who doesn’t like the country.

    • Replies: @JUSA
  67. “The EU’s defense capabilities have taken a huge hit with Britain’s departure, leaving France as the only country left with semi-serious power-projection capability.”

    There is a lot more to it then that.

    “We should also keep in mind that to a significant degree, the UK is already signed up to European Defence Union through EI2.”
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/brexit-deal-not-done

    “The Government has stated the UK’s unequivocal commitment to European defence and security, which will continue after we leave the EU.”
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/eu-defence-union-command-and-control-smoking-gun

    Military Unification has been on the European Union’s policy agenda for decades. In the past twelve months, the pressure to complete the task has accelerated the process, particularly since the Bratislava Summit of September 2016.

    There, the 27 leaders of the EU decided to “give a new impetus” to European external security and defence.

    They set as a target the December 2016 European Council to formalise an implementation plan.

    To quote one commentator, “European Union Defence plans are associated with the eventual formation of a European Federal State. Under the current system of unaccountable governance, this means they will be run by an unelected oligarchy. A nation state that contracts out its defence has ceased to be.”
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/series/eu-military-unification

    In a written question HL 456, Lord James of Blackheath sought answers from the Ministry of Defence concerning EU Defence Policy. His question in full was.
    To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether any agreements have been made with the EU about British participation in (1) the establishment of a European Defence Union, (2) any military command and control procedures, (3) the future of Five Eyes, (4) the procurement of military equipment from an EU-wide organisation, and (5) the transfer of nuclear technology licensed to the UK by the United States; if so, what are the details of any such agreements; and whether any such agreements are separate to any agreements relating to the UK’s departure from the EU.
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/schrodingers-defence-policy

  68. JUSA says:
    @Anonymous

    Nope. Just pointing out the facts. You sound like the CCP, still deep in denial. The world does not like the Chinese, only their money. Now they don’t even want their stinking virus contaminated money. Just stay the hell out.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  69. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I’m not able to find decent stats on UK immigration by nationality, but I’d guess that the Latin Americans are tourists.

    I do not know about immigration from former colonies or the ways in which some of these people cheat the system (which they surely do).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. @JUSA

    Get a grip! Two-thirds of the world’s countries have joined China’s BRI, there are four nuclear powers in its security alliance, it wins every UN vote on the first ballot (and, by the end of next month, will control one-third of the UN’s agencies) and even Emmanuel Macron finds the Russo-Chinese vision for the world more attractive than ours.

    Why? Because we’ve spent $100 billion since 1950 creating a false picture of China and now, as it is being revealed, the rest of the world is moving towards China while people like yourself remain in denial.

    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    , @Anonymous
  71. @Kim

    China has no oil? According to the US EIA, as of 2017 we had 35 billion barrels of proven reserves and the Chinese had 25 billion, but China has just proved another 5 billion in Xinjiang, which explains our meddling there. (Venezuela has 300 billion, which explains why we just elected their ‘president’).

    Nor is oil–or any single factor–the determinant of future growth. Government competence is the principal determinant and China is #1 in that regard. Technological competence is another, and China is #1 there, too: it leads the world in all aspects of renewables research and each year deploys more renewable assets than the rest of the world combined. It also leads in nuclear research and deployment.

    China also leads–by an almost infinite margin–in forward planning and preparation. Why do you think the world is switching to electric transportation? Because China, despite German pleas, set 2025 as the cutoff for IC automobiles.

    China’s energy intensity–the number of barrels of oil/tons of coal expended per unit of GDP–is falling like a stone. Between 1980-2015, the economy grew sixtyfold while energy consumption grew fivefold[1]–a decline in energy intensity of eighty percent–and, between 2005-2019, cut carbon intensity in half. In 2018, renewables consumption was 38% larger than in the US and has been growing by 25% annually and is expected to hit 20% of total energy consumption by 2025.

    Domestic energy-intensive industries, like smelting and cement, have lost preferential electricity rates while eco-friendly industries, like sewage treatment, electric vehicle charging and water desalination, pay less. The results will be consolidated this year, legislated, then rolled out nationally. Yue Xiuhu, who supervises environmental pricing said, “While the government already employs some environmental pricing mechanisms they do not reflect the resources’ scarcity, their ecological value, or the cost of their environmental damage. We will introduce a pricing policy promoting green development and reducing environmental costs.”

    So, yes, oil is a limiting factor but only one of several and no country is more capable of handling (and hastening) its decline than the PRC.

    _____________________
    [1] Energy intensity level of primary energy (MJ/$2011 PPP GDP) fell from 21.2 in 1990 to 6.7 in 2015 (World Bank)

    • Troll: Znzn
    • Replies: @Kim
  72. @A123

    Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Chinese Academy of Sciences and are collaborating on a thorium-powered plant for 2030, to be built in China.

    Ten thousand tons of plentiful thorium can produce as much energy as the world’s annual consumption of coal, oil, natural gas and uranium combined and thorium’s inherent safety provides a small footprint, low cost fuel, little residue and high energy efficiency–an exciting alternative to uranium-based plants.

    • Troll: A123
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  73. Kim says:
    @RadicalCenter

    building more solar capacity in the locales where it is feasible

    When I get a reply like this it just pulls the heart right out of me. Look…

    there will not be any glorious renewable future. All so-called renewables/intermittents depend on fossil fuels. We can’t build a windfarm without concrete or steel or fibreglass. We can’t build or maintain the towers without delivering the parts on huge, multiple-articulated trucks and with well-maintained and sound access roads and with helicopters. When windfarms are built out on the water, we need ships and helicopters to maintain them and ports and hangars and spare parts and just-in-time manufacturing and they require huge amounts of maintenance, all of it depending on a fossil-fuel economy.

    And we can’t pave deserts with solar panels. Can you imagine even for a moment the maintenance and repair problems? Where does the water come from to clean them? What about the human staff? These are just such basic issues. Or maybe we can build these panel farms over arable or grazing land? But isn’t that a prohibitive cost? And we would still face the enormous costs of maintenance. And the bitumen for the roads that come to them. Or that we drive electric cars on. Where will that bitumen and concrete come from if there is not a fossil fuel industry?

    These are just a few of thousands of examples of the difficulties associated with creating a non-fossil fuel society.

    Fossil fuels created this modern world – including its 7.5 billion people, and if we don’t have fossil fuels, those people, and modernity, will have to disappear. This is not up for debate. No fossil fuels means no fertilizers and no pesticides. That means no more billions of people on earth.

    And there is no way that we can pick and choose as to what parts of the fossil fuel industry we will have and which parts we will not have. “Oh, we’ll keep the fertilizers and pharmaceuticals and get rid of the cars, lubricants, and paints and plastics.” We can’t run fossil fuels as a scaled-down boutique industry, at half size, or quarter-size and only producing the products that we want. Because the industry is extraordinarily complex and runs on a very large scale and because society is an emergent networked system, not a top-down command economy run for the benefit of all by a commission of all-knowing, consensus-seeking wokesters.

    That is how the fossil fule economy has up until recently been able to produce at the low prices that it has – because it is a huge, complex and steamlined system with substantial economies of scale producing what until recently has been an abundant, easily-obtained product with an energy density that no other product comes even close to matching. And as long as it could produce at low prices, the economy lived and grew. And high oil prices – and current prices are three and four times the average of the period 1920-1970 – means the economy shrinks and dies.

    And when fossil fuels become too expensive, so do intermittents because under intermittency the fossil fuel backbone infrastructure must continue to be maintained to compensate for when the wind does not blow or the sun does not shine. Australia has gone the intermittent route. In 1995 it had the cheapest electricity in the world. Now it has the most expensive and the Australian economy is crippled by it and is sustained only by a huge bubble in household debt that will certainly destroy the economy when it bursts. The global credit bubble, you see, is how demand is being maintained in an era where we are saying farewell to cheap oil and falling wages – and therefore falling demand.

    Because price matters. It is not a trivial thing or something we can just ignore. If energy is not cheap, then that means we can’t afford it. That means that the economy shrinks. So to maintain certain “indispensable” parts of the economy, other parts of the economy must be cannibalized – often this is called “efficiency” but what it concretely really means is that certain parts of society, both poor and middle class, have to economized, downsized, marginalized and even entirely dropped out of the game, unless they can borrow to stay in the game – that means that some people have to become poorer so that the rich can stay rich, or even get richer.

    Perhaps you have noticed that happening since the 1970s. The debt. The wealth disparities. The crumbling infrastructure. The arrogance and increasingly obvious sticky-fingeredness of the rulers, the thinness of the propaganda, the outrageousness and unreality of the demands of what we must believe…that is all the result of cheap fossil fuels going away, and the renewables “solution” of replacing something formerly much cheaper with something massively more expensive and less powerful or less suitable but which yet continues to depend on the very thing it is supposed to be replacing, well, to put it mildly, that dog don’t hunt.

    Rant off.

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    , @Alden
  74. A123 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    WOW!!!

    Your Plague Road Initiative is going to collapse Iran’s violent Theocracy, and you think nothing will change?

    The Plague Road was a tough sell with Socialist “Death to America” Iran on your side. With a realistic Iranian government the disease ridden BRI is no longer a road. It is a dead end.

    Everyone knows you are a paid PRC party operative, but your lies are transparent. You really should give up on your Central Party fiction and blatant deception. It is not working and never will.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
  75. A123 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Godfree was Trolling in #72 not #75. There needs to be a 5 minute window to correct marks…

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
  76. Kim says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    China has no oil? According to the US EIA, as of 2017 we had 35 billion barrels of proven reserves and the Chinese had 25 billion, but China has just proved another 5 billion in Xinjiang, which explains our meddling there. (Venezuela has 300 billion, which explains why we just elected their ‘president’).

    1. Perhaps you are not aware of this, but one billion barrels of oil is equivalent to just 12 days of global consumption. So in the big picture 25 billion barrels of oil is a trivial amount.

    There are also issues of cost and quality and the fact that, when it comes to IEA estimates, two birds in the bush are famously not the same as one in the hand, but in any case we can put all that to one side because 25 billion barrels are pretty close to nothing.

    (Venezuela has 300 billion, which explains why we just elected their ‘president’).

    2. Venezuela has no “oil” to speak of. It has tar sands which cost $100 a barrel to produce. That is why it is currently an economic basket case. Price matters and Venezuelan tar sands are uneconomic. There is no point in producing “oil” at a price that the consumer cannot afford to pay.

    So China can elect whoever it wants in Venezuela. They might even elect a President for Antarctica if they want. I hear there is oil there. But in the meantime, China still has no oil worth shit and it – and you – can just keep on whistling through the graveyard.

    • Replies: @Oikeamielinen
  77. Kim says:
    @Eugene Norman

    Oil isn’t running out either.

    Oil will never “run out”. Oil that isn’t drilled will just stay in the ground. That isn’t the problem. The problem is that it becomes ever more expensive to produce. The average rice of a barrel of oil in the USA in the period 1920-1970 in 2016 USD was $24.

    Toay, the WTI price is $51. So it is more than than twice as much as it was in the great period of US expansion. You don’t think that is a drag on the economy? The price in 2008 went to $140, you may remember.

    Unfortunately, even $51 is not enough for the oil companies, who have massively reduced capex and for many years now have been discovering far less oil than is being consumed.

    Note that the current break-even cost of shale oil is $73. The mass failure of shale oil companies is a disaster just waiting to happen.

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  78. antibeast says:
    @A123

    No I didn’t miss your point which is just German-bashing. If anything, the Germans lent too much money to the Greeks who borrowed and spent like crazy before they went bust in the GFC 2008. The Eurozone debt crisis was largely caused by too much debt-spending but not enough productive investments in the South unlike in the East where German Capital invested in manufacturing, distribution and financial industries. The local banks also lent too much money for real-estate speculation because they were betting on Northerners buying property in the South. That too went belly up. The problem was not so much in the single currency but in excessive lending to underperforming economies in the South. The East fared better because the Germans owned most of the local banks which maintained their cautious lending practices adopted from Germany.

    With the UK out of the EU, Germany is now positioned to become not only the industrial but also the financial powerhouse of Europe while France is being positioned as the political and cultural capital of Europe. Macron is openly calling for a European Army independent of the USA which would make NATO redundant. Amazingly enough, this recalls De Gaulle’s vision of a Europe led by France. Just recently, Germany, France and Spain have agreed to jointly develop a six-generation fighter jet to be manufactured in Europe which would render US-made fighter jets obsolete.

    Interesting times, eh?

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Miro23
    , @RadicalCenter
  79. Alden says:

    A “German citizen” drove a Mercedes into a carnival celebration today, injuring 30, including many children. Town of Volksmarden state of Hesse not far from Frankfurt.

    Police can’t understand the” German citizen”s motive for doing such a thing. Mutti Merkel sent condolences. Wonder if he was a 4th generation Turk.

    • Replies: @A123
  80. @songbird

    But you’re still too charitable. They’re not even taking measures to ensure that the decline will be less violent, less drastic in terms of impoverishment, less likely to cede power to the most anti-white and anti-christian elements. Quite the contrary.

    To adapt the tag line of our friend Elite Comms:
    sighing….

    • Agree: Pop Warner
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  81. @Kim

    Are you doing your historical oil pricing in constant dollars?

    • Replies: @Kim
  82. @Alfred

    You’re of course right that solar power is variable and needs to be backed up by a more steady source such as nuclear or fossil fuels. I’d go with nuke over fossil fuels because of the more limited finite nature of the fossil fuels and the pollution they spew when burned.

    Still worthwhile to expand solar and nuke capacity instead of continuing to rely overwhelmingly on finite, dirty, unhealthy fossil fuels.

    Ultimately, it seems there will be no adequate solution — absent some technological breakthrough, which is always to be pursued — without a reduction in world population and a reduction in per capita consumption of fossil fuels.

  83. @Kim

    Thank you for the comment. We are not diametrically opposed in all our views here.

    I will certainly agree that it takes fossil fuels even to produce solar equipment and nuke equipment, and neither solar nor wind nor nukes are panaceas singly or collectively.

    I will also readily concede that we cannot forgo substantial use of fossil fuels for the foreseeable future. But something has to give when improvement in methods of identifying, reaching, and extracting fossil fuels and minerals (and reusing) can’t prevent them from plain old running out.

    More broadly, there is NO adequate solution to the energy problem, or to our own likely extinction — or the ultimately fatal pollution, overcrowding, fish depletion, deforestation, soil erosion, and water depletion problems — without

    (1) MAJOR reduction in world population and
    (2) reduction in per capita consumption of fossil fuels, including fossil fuels used to enable solar, wind, or nuke operations.

    Even then, like it or not, it appears that we will not be able to continue maintaining populous societies at this level of consumer consumption of goods and services that are not essential to life and health.

    • Replies: @Kim
  84. Alden says:
    @Kim

    Great post good for you.

    I can tell you the entire “get rid of fossil fuels “ is a giant lobbying effort by the electrical lobby, from the copper mines to the factories that make the cables to the companies that install the cables and other clean electrical energy. I’m not complaining, our family electrical C&I construction business greatly benefits. Should keep all of us comfortable for a few more generations.

    But you’re absolutely right. Isn’t copper and the copper cables that transmit electricity some kind of fossil; and when used for electric cables some kind of fuel? Copper mining must pollute sacred Mother Gaia as much as oil wells. And transporting it to the ports, shipping it to China turning it into cables and shipping it back must pollute Mother Gaia.

    Biggest problem with get rid of fossil fuel environmentalists is they’re sissy boy cubicle coolies and women who don’t know anything about what goes into producing electricity. Or food or heat or shelter or any other necessity of life.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  85. A123 says:
    @antibeast

    You definitely missed my point. No bashing just facts about current German tyranny.

    Your Globalist predator Deutsche Bank relied on Mullah Merkel when intentionally entrapping Greece, Cyprus, and other EZ nations. Mullah Merkel’s corrupt plan was to use Financial treachery to make them subservient to her rule as IslamoGlobalist FurherProphet.

    Germany has so crippled itself with “Greta Green” it is not only not a Powerhouse, it is well on its way to being out of electricity and thus Powerless. Its manufacturing capabilities have eroded over the past 20 years as it lived off of Euro currency exploitation and imported Muslim menials.

    Now it is time to Pay the Piper and Mullah Merkel’s bankrupt Germany cannot. A Recession is 100% certain, and a full fledged Depression is likely. Your Deutsche Bank is headed to bankruptcy, and every German will lose on average 30-50% value of their savings when DB dies.

    France as a “political and cultural capital of Europe”? Really? Explain to us proles how your Globalist elite Macron, brutalizing, beating, and imprisoning Yellow Vest citizens who only desire freedom is a demonstration of political or cultural leadership? Macron is a reprehensible stooge that deserves and receives respect from no one. Every one sees him as a joke, and a bad one.

    Interesting Times preceding the end of your Globalist Merkel and your Globalist Macron, eh?

    PEACE 😇
    _______

  86. Alden says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    So next year when China has achieved so much for its people America can send back the millions of elderly Chinese the Chinese government has dumped on America because it has no pensions, housing or other provision for old age care?

    The Supreme Court just upheld the old public charge law for immigrants. Would be nice if we can send those SSI Medicare senior housing food stamp Chinese parasites back to China so China can take care of its own elderly.

    Laugh out loud.

  87. A123 says:
    @Alden

    Too early to make definitive conclusion, but the early reports indicate that the Volkmarsen attacker assassinated his own mother. Very sad and at this point one has to suspect mental illness rather than politics or terrorism.

    Wait for more facts before firmly attaching any conclusions.

    The IslamoFascist regime of Mutti Mullah Merkel will attempt a smear campaign if the attacker is even vaguely Christian. You will be able to immediately detect Fake Stream Media corruption if the fake term “Far Right” is used.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Alden
  88. Yahya says:
    @Just Passing Through

    Germans are just too conditioned against nationalism of any sort. WW2 stigma still looms large.

    Ironically, Hitler, in his infinite stupidity, is in large part responsible for the current demographic destruction of Germany.

    This just goes to show the unforeseeable consequences of actions in complex systems.

    The world is interesting this way.

  89. songbird says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I agree. If they were actually concerned about it, then they wouldn’t ban access to a lot data, like IQ differences on military enlistment tests. Or, how we have the nebulous categories “native-born” and “foreign-born.”

    Though, IMO, no data could possibly change their stance on immigration – only personal incentives.

  90. Alden says:
    @d dan

    Why are all these China experts so knowledgeable about the 19th century England vs China opium war so completely totally absolutely quite ignorant of the 19th century Taiping Rebellion Chinese Civil war?

    30 years of a rebellion/ civil war that killed 30 million including civilians who were just in the way, 2 regarded Emperors in a row, destruction of Guangdong, and none of these China experts and ever, ever mention the Taiping rebellion?

  91. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Many here know that the US government has been completely subsumed by the Satanic Zionist tribe for the past half century and is up to no good with the tribe’s greedy unscrupulous imperialist intents.

    But you do need to take off your rose colored lenses for China. The truth is, America is still much more popular than China the world over thanks to its soft power projected through Hollywood and its insidious, downward projecting pop culture. China has no soft power. The Chinese government wrongly thought that having their citizens travel far and wide to spread Chinese culture and tourist dollar will bring them good will. Unfortunately that strategy is backfiring. Chinese behave abominably overseas and are by and large widely disdained as obnoxious, loud, rude, badly dressed, bad hair, bad breath, bad English skills, badly behaving, and when so many of them descend on every tourist hot spot like a swarm of locusts, the fear and loathing only grows.

    Truth be told most of Europe is probably heaving a sigh of relieve for finally getting a break from the invasion of this locust swarm. Maybe some of the merchants will lament loss of a few tourist dollars, but no one is missing those Chinese tourists.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  92. Kim says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    The numbers are in 2016 inflation-adjusted dollars.

    But even putting those figures aside, can anyone doubt that oil today is massively more expensive to produce that it was in the mentioned period 1920-1970? And the higher cost of production means that there is now less surplus oil in each barrel to be divided between govt, producer and consumer. Ergo the seemingly endless demand-maintenance and debt problems of modern society.

    In 1920s Texas and Ohio, you could throw up a wooden rig, drill a few hundred feet, and produce a gusher. And the price of a barrel of oil reflected how easy it was to find and extract. At one time in the early 1930s, a barrel of Texas oil went as low as 3 cents (in money of the day).

    This is a far cry from the expense and tech involved in building a Star Wars type of deep water drilling rig off the coast of Brazil, supplying it by helicopter and and drilling through six kilometers of sea bed.

    The cheap oil is gone. The last giant field was found in 1962. The temporary hold-offs which allowed the game to be played out for a couple more decades, North Sea and the Cantarell field, are just about done and dusted. The majors are no longer spending on capex because – at the prices they can get – there is little to find, a few billion barrels here, a few billion there. And always in difficult environments. And we certainly wouldn’t be engaged in the unprofitable shale oil fraud if there was any alternative.

    It is a tough situation – in fact, it is not even a problem, it is a predicament – but the rulers don’t want to tell us about it. Because there are no good solutions. Better to talk about glonbal warming and green revolutions and to pretend that they have it all under control, that we must give up oil, when in fact it is oil that is giving up on us.

  93. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    The Supreme Court sided with Trump on the “Public Charge” immigration restriction, which means the government can now restrict entry of immigrants they deem will need public assistance. I agree it would be nice if we could extend it to those who are already in the country, send them all packing. There are a lot of seniors in this country who can’t even speak any English. How did they get in and why are they here? Who’s supporting them? All need to go. There is such a thing is too old to immigrate. We should not give a green card to anyone older than 40.

    • Replies: @Alden
  94. Kim says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Thanks. Yes, I am sure we are not that far apart at all on these issues.

  95. @Anonymous

    But you do need to take off your rose colored lenses for China. Facts are facts. They don’t require tinted lenses.

    To the degree that America’s popularity exists, it is because of America’s control of world media. It has no basis in reality whatever. That is why most Europeans think the US won WWII, for example.

  96. Miro23 says:
    @antibeast

    The problem was not so much in the single currency but in excessive lending to underperforming economies in the South. The East fared better because the Germans owned most of the local banks which maintained their cautious lending practices adopted from Germany.

    Another way of reading this is that the East retained their local currencies (Poland, Hungary, Czech, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia) while the South adopted the Euro (Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal).

    The Euro completely changed the South’s financial environment.

    These countries traditionally had weak currencies, high interest rates and an inflationary tendency – and their economies/societies were adapted to this way of working. With the Euro this all changed. Manufacturers suddenly had to compete on the Northern European playing field (no competitive currency depreciation while workers still expect regular pay rises). The public went from 15% interest rates to the 2% Euro rate, and everyone became a property speculator. Property “investment” beat working for a living, returning a 10-15% capital gain p.a. , also leveraged by paying deposits on 5 or 6 apartments on plan (flipped before they were bought).

    Spain was typical in fast losing manufacturing and getting speculative bubbles.

    The US is maybe similar, with an overpriced dollar (reserve status) leading to the same deindustrialization and asset speculation. The result is the same – lower grade jobs and a financial bubble/crash/bailout cycle.

  97. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    They definitely are NOT!

    They are too shabby, too dumb and too low uncultured and low class to be tourists.
    And besides, they infest the definitely non-touristy parts of London.

  98. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just passing through

    Anyhow, from Napoleon to Hitler – and from various British machinations, western Europe, historically has proven to be Russia’s cruellest and harshest enemy. This pattern will likely reemerge in the future.
    Thus, Russia should step back and let the EU fuck itself over – which currently they are doing a treat, and will continue doing. A century hence, the EU will be a black/brown run basket case. All Russia needs to do is to play the long game. Oh, and favor China to the maximum extent possible.

  99. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    Look.

    I’m merely stating facts.
    In the long view of history, empires come and go. Doubtless this will apply to the USA.

    HOWEVER, unfortunately, immigrants are forever. For example America’s shitty black population has been raising Hell for 400 years – and will do so for another 400. At least.

    I’ve got the feeling that you, yourself are a black/brown.

  100. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @JUSA

    Wow!

    JUSA just copy-pasted this exact diatribe here, in another thread. Isn’t that spamming, Ron?

    Aliso, why is Anatoly Karlin allowed to be a cunt by blocking anonymous comments? How’s that benefiting the site?

  101. @Alden

    ” the millions of elderly Chinese the Chinese government has dumped on America” do not exist. They are figments of your fevered imagination.

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  102. Whitewolf says:
    @antibeast

    Many White Nationalists see US imperialism as a problem. They also see the US government itself as a problem. It promotes diversity aka White genocide as official policy. Both major parties agree with this policy.

  103. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Do you pay taxes? You are supporting those senior immigrants who never contributed a dime to social security or Medicare Medicaid and priority on cheap senior housing

  104. Alden says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    They infest California especially San Francisco and San Gabriel Valley in S California. They can be seen every Wednesday on Ellis st in San Francisco st the Glide Memorial Church food bank giveaway. They can be seen at other food banks as well. They line up, get their free bags of food, give it to a relative who has a truck and get right back in line again. And the free food ends up in their nasty little convenience stores to be sold. That’s why the food sold in their nasty stores is stale and the packaging is a bit torn and shabby.

    Go to any medical office clinic and hospital. There they are, with their Medicare Medicaid cards getting free healthcare and minimal cost medication. Americans contribute to those programs from their first paycheck till they’re 65. Elderly immigrants sign up within days of arrival. Many of them aren’t even that old. The Chinese arrive with passports birth certificates and other Chinese official ID claiming they’re 65 and thus eligible for the programs. They’re not 65, more like 55.

    55 year old Americans are still working and contributing to social security and Medicare. 55-64 year old Chinese immigrants are receiving those benefits fraudulently.

    They can be seen at every social security office in California. Van loads of them accompanied by social workers and translators signing up for social security pensions and medical benefits.

    Go to any government subsidized senior housing complex and see it’s filled by Chinese immigrants dumped on the American taxpayer by their crooked corrupt relatives and the Chinese government because China has no pension system.

    I’m here in the middle of all these Chinese parasites and frauds. You’re in Thailand arranging sex tours and working for the Chinese government.

    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
  105. Poco says:
    @Anonymous

    The man in the street doesn’t play dress-ups and larp as king of the universe. How could he know all this without expensive studies and useless blathering?

  106. @Alden

    When you’re all done insulting people and speculating about their motives for urging less consumption of fossil fuels: what is your suggestion for at least a partial solution to the problems of pollution and finite fossil fuel resources?

    First, do you believe that our planet has an infinite supply of fossil fuels? If so, what’s the basis for that belief?

    As world population continues to increase, how do we prevent a corresponding increase in air and water pollution from the burning of fossil fuels?

    If we keep relying on fossil fuels and they become more scarce relative to demand, do you know some way to keep prices from going way up and staying up? How will regular people, foremost regular Americans, survive when their utility bills double, then triple, then quadruple?

    I’ll note that you attacked only the idea of expanding solar energy capacity, not nuke power. Presently, I can’t see a way around also expanding nuclear power, despite fear of disaster from an accident or terrorist sabotage of a nuke power plant, and despite concern over the safe storage of nuke waste.

    As for fossil fuels burned transporting raw materials to China for manufacturing and then back to the USA, you’re right. We should enact tariff and environmental policy to reduce such wasteful back-and-forth (as well as restore some manufacturing jobs to Americans).

    As for oil wells, I don’t see a realistic way to get off oil as quickly as some enviros want, especially if they won’t allow major expansion of nuke power capacity.

    Other than calling us names to feel all manly, what are your actual ideas to prepare our people for the future? My wife and I have children, manly man, and almost surely more than you do, for what that’s worth. We want them to have affordable energy that doesn’t cause them and their children to suffer from deadly air and water. Continuing on our present course is not a longer-term option even if world population can be brought down. We MUST reduce per capita fossil fuel consumption as much and as soon as we can without tanking our economy and standard of living — but it doesn’t seem likely that we can keep buying (therefore manufacturing) so many unnecessary goods and services per person when that causes air and water pollution from fossil-fuel-burning factories.

    • Replies: @Alden
  107. @Alden

    I lived in SF for many years, shopped in Chinatown every week, ran a business on Polk St. and knew Chinese families that had settled in the city in the nineteenth century. They had large families then, endured very nasty discrimination for generations and are now using whatever social services they are entitled to–like millions of European elderly.

    No doubt, among the millions of European elderly–as among the Chinese–there are immigration and benefit fraudsters but the benefits to America from Chinese immigrants far outweigh any costs of elderly immigrant cheaters. Certainly their low rates of crime, violent and non-violent have been a contribution in themselves.

    What, incidentally, has been your contribution to America? From what I see of your comments, it has been negative, even slanderous, and I have noted that.

    • Replies: @Alden
  108. @antibeast

    Perhaps, but what would that culture be? Rather hard to have a white european culture with neither many white Europeans nor many half-white or nonwhite people with both the intelligence and the respect for the euro values and mores.

    That political/cultural capital of Europe will be some ugly amalgam of the former French culture, determined soon by a majority African/Arab population, governed in places by a brutal form of Islam, with (un)healthy doses of the vulgar, hypersexualized, unclean, violent, and simply stupid African-“American” ghetto.

    As for Germany, the supposed financial/economic capital of the new Europe, the situation is similar and no less bleak. It will not be possible to maintain Germanic culture with very few actual Germans in existence and living there. And it is questionable whether the nonwhites colonizing Germany (and Austria) will have both sufficient intelligence and sufficient understanding of and respect for traditional German values and ways of organizing and improving society.

    The native French and German populations are about to head off a cliff, demographically, as the next generation will have far fewer actual french and German women of childbearing age (if they even had the normal healthy desire for family and the will to survive, compete, and thrive).

    In other words, being the cultural or economic capital of “Europe” won’t be much of an honor.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  109. @Godfree Roberts

    Your hyperbole vis-à-vis the USA aside, it’s more the reason for China to mind its business, and business only, to achieve all those thing you’re pontificating about but a misjudgment regarding the American military power will put their nose out of joint much sooner then you may think or believe.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  110. Alden says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Sent thousands of black criminals to prison and made the streets of SF safe. That was my contribution to America.

    I’m more familiar with Chinese gold rush descendants than you are.

    You didn’t live in Chinatown. No non Chinese is allowed to live in Chinatown. As for the alleged discrimination? From the 185os on labor and employment, health, building and housing laws were never enforced against the Chinese in California. They were then and are now free to exploit their slave labor and cram 25 people into a 1,00o sq ft house. I’ve seen the scrawny men in flip flops slaughtering chickens on the filthy floors of single family home garages in the Richmond for the Clement st restaurants.

    Anyone can see through your Chinese government propaganda. The Jewish Zionists are more realistic and honest about Israel than you are about China.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  111. Alden says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The electrical construction and remodeling business is benefitting greatly from the save Mother Gaia by converting to electricity. I’m an officer ( affirmative action woman ) to satisfy the affirmative action gestapo of an electrical company more than 100 years old From the owners of the copper mines to the electricians, we’re making a fortune from the changeover to save Mother Gaia by enriching the electrical industry.

    Solar panels. The homeowner pays to install, maintain and replace the panels, the electricity doesn’t power the house. The power goes right back into the grid and the power company sells it right back to the home owner It’s a net loss to the home owner as well as unsightly,

  112. aandrews says:
    @Alligator

    “This guy “Guillaume Durocher” is somebody nobody ever heard before….”

    Durocher used to be on podcasts at Radix, with Richard Spencer. So, I know who he is, at least.

  113. @Really No Shit

    When the US tried militarily to put China’s nose out of joint, a quickly assembled volunteer army routed them.

    When the US invaded Vietnam, they never moved above the 17th. parallel because Mao told them that he’d send some volunteers to rout them again.

    Vietnamese volunteers then proved the truth of Mao’s description of the US as a ‘paper tiger.’ Every native fighting force since then has done the same.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  114. @Alden

    Can you read or do you just go off on racist rants? Shopping in Chinatown once a week and having a few Chinese friends was, as I said, the limit of my exposure. While you were performing your mythical feats, I was living there, married to a black woman, and seeing the devastation that racists like yourself have done to her people.

    How did you send thousands of black criminals to prison and made the streets of SF safe? Were you the city’s chief prosecutor?

    As you’ll see from my footnotes and charts, my ‘government propaganda’ comes from the US Government and agencies, and from International agencies most of which are controlled by the US.

  115. @Godfree Roberts

    Your naivete is staggering! The previous wars you have cited were never about the survival of the Anglo-American resolve to hold onto the power at all cost as it’s now but to feed industrial base and if something good had come out of it would have been a bonus for the effort, i.e. loss of life and treasure, however, with Soviet menace to undermine the West having failed, the “Boys” aren’t going to give their power and position to a novice pretender. It’ll turn out very badly for the both sides but China will be devasted with losses of not only unimaginable number of lives but territories as well. If you are truly a freind of the Middle Kingdom then don’t egg them on or you will rue the stoking of delicate egos.

  116. antibeast says:
    @Alden

    Most Chinese immigrants work in family-owned small businesses such as restaurants, groceries, laundry shops, etc. who pay taxes to but do not get any welfare or healthcare benefits from the US government. Now of course there are elderly citizens who qualify for and receive welfare and healthcare benefits from the US government without ever working a single day in the USA. That’s true but they are outnumbered by working-class immigrants who work 12-14-hour days to live their so-called “American Dream”, many of whom become disillusioned after experiencing the harsh reality of the USA. That’s why if you go to any restaurant, laundry shop, etc. run by Chinese immigrants, they hire mostly Mexican illegals today because Chinese immigrants have simply given up and moved back to China where the State funds and runs a National Healthcare System, something that is common in most Western “Democracies” except the USA.

    • Agree: Godfree Roberts
  117. Vaterland says:
    @Alligator

    I couldn’t find anything even slightly subversive or fundamentally wrong in his article to which I almost entirely agree, both in terms of criticism and visions for the future. You usually read a lot of nonsense written by Americans about Europe, it’s good that you have a realistic, matter-of-fact correction available.

  118. Vaterland says:
    @Anon

    How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  119. antibeast says:
    @RadicalCenter

    You missed my point about Macron’s version of EUROPEAN Nationalism which calls for a united Europe for Europeans run by Europeans not by Americans. The problem with WNs is that their vision is too myopic seeing only the trees but not the forest. European intellectuals rightly view US Imperialism as the problem not the poor and powerless masses of Muslim refugees fleeing from war-torn countries, bombed-out and destroyed by the US Military. That’s why the Europeans opposed the Iraq War and supported the Iran Nuclear Deal. Now Macron is sounding the alarm over the nuclear arms race between the USA and Russia after the termination of the INF Treaty which poses an existential threat to Europe.

    By the way, the two Western European countries with the most Muslims are the UK and France. But they’re mostly previous immigrants — not current refugees — from South Asia and North Africa, respectively which used to be their former colonies. Germany which took in some one million Muslim refugees did so because German industry need foreign workers just as the Turks were imported decades earlier. If the geopolitics of the Middle East stabilized, then Germany could easily repatriate them to their ancestral homelands. But Germany would still lack the young workers needed to replace its retiring workers in an rapidly aging population. Unless German women start procreating in large numbers, this demographic deficit won’t be solved by banning imported workers. This is more of a social problem with too many German women with too much liberal feminist ideals and not enough traditional family values. Western Liberalism — not Muslim refugees — is what is causing the demise of the traditional White Western Christian European family in Germany.

  120. Vaterland says:
    @antibeast

    It’s both actually. And it was well known beforehand that these people were illiterate in their own language and incapable to perform even the most primitive assistance work. German and Western, leftist mass media consciously lied about it. German guilt, leftist utopianism and CIA directives all played a role in this. Performance and attendance for language courses, apprenticeship, per capita crime rates, susceptibility to Islamist ideology/terrorism and racial IQ differences are equally bleak.

    It’s perfectly possible to be against Neocon wars and realize the threat and burden of Arabic mass immigration and Islamic parallel societies AND at the same time how the situation is exploited by the US empire and Neocons which create the wars.

    I’d rather have France lead Europe than current year USA, but by a Rothschild banker Macron? Is that our figure of European independence? He was a total cuck to Merkel, too.

    Why not have a German prince and French princess marry, start a new dynasty and recreate the Karolingian Empire? Let’s get Nick Land on board and Anatoly can experience a real life Deus Ex world.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  121. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    You talk an awful lot of shit.

    Purely and simply, I find the *RACE* of those bastards flooding in and trying to take over Europe objectionable. I make no apologies for this , and simply couldn’t give a shit about what you or anyone else thinks about my position.
    Also, I *absolutely could not give a shit* about the real or imagined plight of those filthy cunts trying to take over Europe. If they die or starve or massacre each other, I’m perfectly indifferent. Leastways, I wouldn’t even spend a damned cent of European money to ‘help’ them.
    This is my opinion. I couldn’t give a fart about what you think about me or my opinion.

    Furthermore, I’m certain that you are a black/brown who’s infiltrated this discussion for your own foul reasons.

  122. antibeast says:
    @Vaterland

    This whole Muslim refugee “crisis” in Europe was manufactured by the CIA. The Iraq War proved to be too expensive so the USA “outsourced” all the dirty work of killing Arab Muslims to the CIA-trained Al Qaeda/ISIS in order to destabilize the Middle East and protect the Petrodollar system. Those Muslim refugees are just collateral damage who could have sought refuge in wealthy Arab Sheikdoms but instead ended up in Germany. Think about it: why shouldn’t Arab Muslims seek refuge in the GCC countries? Because the CIA wanted them in Europe. It’s all a plot to destabilize Europe by hiring “Islamic Terrorists” to kill White Christian Europeans whose natural response is to hate those Muslims refugees. And lo and behold! You then see CIA-fronts suddenly appearing such as PEDIGA fomenting anti-Muslim hysteria and next thing you know WNs show up to voice their opposition to the “Muslim Invasion” which is in fact a CIA-plot to subvert legitimate resistance to US Imperialism in the Middle East.

    As for Macron, he has surprised a lot of skeptics who think he’s just a globalist puppet unlike Merkel who behaves like one. I think there are European elites who view Europeanism as a politically viable alternative to Atlanticism due to European incompatible and diverging interests with the USA. Macron reminds me of De Gaulle who expelled the US military which makes France as the only nuclear-armed State in the EU to assume the natural leadership for the political integration of Europe. Germany cannot fulfill that role as long as it is under US military occupation, no matter how strong its industrial economy is. Macron is already talking about extending French nuclear deterrence to the whole of Europe, thus rendering US nuclear weapons redundant. If Trump wins in November 2020, he could very well withdraw the US military from NATO which would pave the way for the establishment of an all-European Army. Then and only can Germany rebuild its military and regain its place in Europe and the world.

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  123. @antibeast

    A color-blind “European nationalism” (an oxymoron in and of itself) would basically be an even stupider version of the “patriotism” Americans are stuck with. That is, not just a dead end, but actively harmful to any realistic solution to their problems.

    Lack of workers was always a lie. What the economists mean when they say that is that they want to keep wages low. Germany didn’t need those Turks for the country, the billionaires did for their fortunes. And this lie becomes more and more transparent as computers and automation replace ever more of the work force.

    • Replies: @S
    , @antibeast
    , @antibeast
    , @S
    , @Vaterland
  124. S says:
    @John Regan

    Lack of workers was always a lie. What the economists mean when they say that is that they want to keep wages low. Germany didn’t need those Turks for the country, the billionaires did for their fortunes.

    Yes, exactly.

    Those billionaires, either corrupt elites of one’s own and or alien, can also use the ‘Turks’ to pull double duty as a divide and conquer, divide and rule force.

    Just as with chattel slavery, it’s the same with wage slavery (so called ‘cheap labor’), in that the promoters of the sordid business, historically the slave dealers, can always find the more suggestable/naive type to run interference for them thinking they are ‘helping others’.

    The ‘helpers’ are enablers.

    Below is from page 4 of an October, 2003 Israeli academic paper explaining how the cheap labor/mass immigration system has historically been utilized by elites and hangers on as a powerful weapon against peoples and peoplehood, all whilst making a pretty penny from the value of the stolen labor.

    ‘..the immigrants usually serve three main functions: cheap labor to replace native groups, settlement in the ‘frontier’ (periphery), and control over the natives and their land. These dynamics generally result in the maintenance of hegemony..’

    https://www.academia.edu/2116622/Between_urban_and_national_45_Political_mobilization_among_46_Mizrahim_in_Israel_s_development_4847_towns_

  125. antibeast says:
    @John Regan

    I don’t know why Germany imported Turks in the first place decades before the so-called “Muslim Refugee Crisis” which is part of the CIA-sponsored, Saudi-financed and Wahhabi-inspired “Islamic Terrorism” all over the world. I tend to believe that it was economic necessity which is why millions of EU migrant workers from Southern and Eastern Europe also ended up in Germany which has the strongest industrial economy and the best welfare systemsystem in the whole of Europe. But that’s an economic not a political issue.

    As for White Christian Europe, the social problems affecting White Christian Societies in Western Europe started long before the arrival of Muslim refugees. Western Liberalism in the form of excessive individualism and sexual hedonism back in the 60s practically destroyed the White Christian Family based on traditional Christian family values, replaced by an animalistic “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle. WNs can’t just blame non-White immigrants for the demise of the White Christian Family and the debasement of White Christian Culture in Western Europe, thus undermining the moral, social, cultural and religious foundations of White Christian Europe. A lot of that came from the Feminist Movement and Sexual Revolution in the 60s which spawned the “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle today.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @John Regan
  126. antibeast says:
    @John Regan

    I don’t know why Germany imported Turks in the first place decades before the so-called “Muslim Refugee Crisis” which is part of the CIA-sponsored, Saudi-financed and Wahhabi-inspired “Islamic Terrorism” all over the world. I tend to believe that it was economic necessity which is why millions of EU migrant workers from Southern and Eastern Europe also ended up in Germany which has the strongest industrial economy and the best welfare system in the whole of Europe. That’s an economic not a political issue.

    As for White Christian Europe, the social problems affecting White Christian Societies in Western Europe started long before the arrival of Muslim refugees. Western Liberalism in the form of excessive individualism and sexual hedonism back in the 60s practically destroyed the White Christian Family based on traditional Christian family values, replaced by an animalistic “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle. WNs can’t just blame non-White immigrants for the demise of the White Christian Family and the debasement of White Christian Culture in Western Europe, thus undermining the moral, social, cultural and religious foundations of White Christian Europe. A lot of that came from the Feminist Movement and Sexual Revolution in the 60s which spawned the “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle today.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  127. S says:
    @John Regan

    A color-blind “European nationalism” (an oxymoron in and of itself) would basically be an even stupider version of the “patriotism” Americans are stuck with.

    Much of the anti-race campaign, aka ‘anti-racism’, is also due to wage slavery, ie the so called ‘cheap labor’/’mass immigration’ system.

    After ‘opening up’ China for predation by flooding that country with opium mid 19th century, then crushing them militarily when they resisted, elements of the elites of the time hoped to export tens of millions of Chinese into the US and Australia as wage slaves, ie so called ‘cheap labor’.

    The problem was they were running into some real resistance in those receiving end countries when people began to violently resist their replacement and genocide.

    Rather than identify the greed, corruption, and amorality, of the historic slavers themselves that were pushing this as the problem, they instead identified ‘race’ as the issue of those being genocided, as in the Spring, 1874, edition of the Pall Mall Gazette of London excerpted below.

    Hence, a big part of the reason for the so called anti-racism campaign of today.

    Pall Mall Gazette – 1874

    “A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.”

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.55223460&view=1up&seq=136&skin=mobile

  128. FvS says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    So when are you moving? Or are you getting paid to stay in this country and shill for the CCP?

    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
  129. Vaterland says:
    @antibeast

    Interesting that you would mention the “CIA plot”, since I just made a different comment regarding that. https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/strategic-engineered-migration-weapon-war

    Soros was of course involved, too.

    But I think you will find the Israel/Oded Yinon strategy in its European variant to be more applicable than the whole petro dollar thing which is pretty much a distraction. Although you seem close to it. But Pegida is not a CIA front. As far as I can tell, it’s very much organic, especially the people going there, which also brings its problems with all its chaos and dilettante leadership. And I’m sorry, but I know the data: both the evidence and my own real life experience are overwhelming regarding MENA and S.S. African crime rates, Islamic parallel societies, educational/work performance and the demographic shift. Very grave problems. Ones which obviously the US empire and the Ziocons exploit and worsen. I recommend Tilo Sarrazins works, if you are interested in had numbers. Although the political problem is even greater.

    If Trump wins in November 2020, he could very well withdraw the US military from NATO which would pave the way for the establishment of an all-European Army.

    You see, this is the kind of nonsense I usually read from Americans who are still on the whole Trumptrain thing and are fully asleep. The most Zionist president since Roosevelt and the most hostile president to Germany since decades will most assuredly not do this. I will rather see “the king of the Jews” complete the building of the third temple in Jerusalem than anything positive for Europe. What Trump actually does: https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/musical-chairs-in-the-white-house/#comment-3739018

    And so, I will have to link Robert Kagan’s article again:
    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/germany/2019-04-02/new-german-question

    • Replies: @antibeast
  130. Vaterland says:
    @John Regan

    Germany didn’t need those Turks for the country, the billionaires did for their fortunes.

    Neither. As usual:

    The first guest workers were recruited from European nations. However, Turkey pressured West Germany to admit its citizens as guest workers.[1] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, opposed such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too large and also held the opinion that Germany didn’t need any more laborers because there were enough unemployed people living in the poorer regions of Germany who could fill these vacancies. The United States, however, put some political pressure on Germany, wanting to stabilize and create goodwill from a potential ally. West Germany and Turkey reached an agreement in 1961.

    [8]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastarbeiter

    Thanks for all the wars, diversity, occupation and refugees, Uncle Sam! Truly our greatest ally!

    • Thanks: John Regan
  131. antibeast says:
    @Vaterland

    The reason why I have a hard time believing the “Blame the (((Zionists)))!” mantra of WNs is simple: Cui Bono?

    Who benefits from the turmoil in the Middle East?

    Iran has now gained influence in Syria and Iraq which fought a bloody 10-year war against Iran. Israel is now facing a bigger threat from Iran than before the genocidal wars in the Middle East. Same with Saudi Arabia. Whatever the Israel Zionists thought of the Oded Yinon Plan, that plan is wishing thinking because it clearly isn’t working.

    US Shale Oil can’t survive a crude oil price of $20-30 per barrel. Middle East turmoil means $50-60 per barrel, high enough for US Shale Oil producers to make a profit. The Saudis tried to drive out the US Shale Oil producers by overproducing crude oil and dumping the excess inventory in global oil markets. To get back at the Saudis, the US Empire then cozied up to Iran with the Iran Nuclear Deal. The Saudis then decided to cozy up to Russia and buy the S-400 Missile Defense System, which was a slap to the face of the USA.

    The US Empire needs to maintain its military presence in the Middle East to protect the Petrodollar System even as the Shale Oil Revolution has allowed the USA to become one of the top three oil producers in the world, along with Russia and Saudi Arabia. The geopolitics of the Middle East depends who controls Arab Oil. If the USA loses control of the Middle East, then the Arab Sheikdoms will stop the sales of Arab Oil in USD which would mean the end of the Petrodollar System. That’s completely unacceptable to the globalist elites and their “Deep State” running the USA Empire. Both the Saudis and Israelis were not happy with the Iran Nuclear Deal which forced them to cozy up to Russia. That’s why Trump dumped the Iran Nuclear Deal after his son-in-law “consulted” with both the Saudis and Israelis.

    In Europe, the CIA-backed Maidan Revolution has turned Ukraine into yet another failed State while the flood of Muslim refugees is now causing a lot of instability in Western Europe because they act as some kind of Trojan Horse for the CIA-supported, Saudi-financed and Wahhabi-inspired “Islamic Terrorists”. Why would the US Empire want to destabilize Europe? Because the Euro is a threat to the Petrodollar after Saddam Hussein planned to sell his Iraqi Oil in Euros. That’s why he was targeted by the US Empire for “regime-change” during the Iraq War. Trump openly calling for the withdrawal of the US military not only from Europe but all over the world poses the biggest threat to the survival of the US Empire. And that’s why the globalist elites and their “Deep State” now want to do anything they can to disrupt, derail and depose Trump. If Trump wins in November 2020, I think they’ll just try to assassinate him.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  132. Miro23 says:
    @antibeast

    As for White Christian Europe, the social problems affecting White Christian Societies in Western Europe started long before the arrival of Muslim refugees. Western Liberalism in the form of excessive individualism and sexual hedonism back in the 60s practically destroyed the White Christian Family based on traditional Christian family values, replaced by an animalistic “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle. WNs can’t just blame non-White immigrants for the demise of the White Christian Family and the debasement of White Christian Culture in Western Europe, thus undermining the moral, social, cultural and religious foundations of White Christian Europe. A lot of that came from the Feminist Movement and Sexual Revolution in the 60s which spawned the “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle today.

    Agreed that the animalistic “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle is destructive of Western societies, but there was more to it than that.

    Digitalization/internet opened up the possibility of globalized production (outsourcing). The West’s industrial base, jobs and knowledge were exported to Asia with massive new profits captured by the West’s globalized elite. They used the academic/ political cover of “neoliberalism”.

    Western politics has basically been bought by the neo-liberal elite, with the new poverty hidden by the massive introduction of debt (neoliberalism again) and an elite controlled sleazy lying media.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  133. Missing in this article, any mention of how the EU actively caused the migrant crisis by destroying Serbia, destroying Libya, doing its utmost to destroy Syria, and grovelling in servility before the Amerikastani campaign to destroy Iraq and Afghanistan and now Iran.

  134. @A123

    You left out a link to Germany Must Perish.

    Is there a word for ‘subtlety’ in Yid or Heeb? It’d be a good idea if they encouraged it during training for the Hasbara First Chairborne – unsubtle schtick like yours is only going to work on Brietbart or Forward.

  135. antibeast says:
    @Miro23

    Economic globalization has allowed Germany to become the industrial powerhouse it is today while “outsourcing” has enabled German Industry to export its Capital and Technology to developing countries all over the world including China. The German Industrialists are not complaining at all because German Industry is by far the biggest beneficiary of global markets opened up by economic globalization. In China, German brands dominate the domestic auto market precisely because the Germans agreed to manufacture their autos in China. That’s true in Mexico as well where German, Japanese, South Korean and American auto companies “outsourced” their auto manufacturing industries.

    Germany has been quite successful in the global economy and yet the birth rates of German women has declined to below replacement level. Add in the sexual hedonism and liberal feminism promoted by Western Liberalism and you get high divorce/co-habitation rates and a decline in traditional Christian family values. If you go back in time to the 50s, you would see White Women getting married and having 2-3 kids and taking care of their families and respecting their husbands and going to Church on Sundays. Now that’s a rarity.

    The animalistic “sex, drugs, rock’n’roll” lifestyle came from Black Ghetto Culture in the USA which has succeeded in destroying the White Christian Culture of Western countries.

    That’s the problem.

  136. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    It’s not about ‘blaming non white immigrants’.

    No. Their mere physical presence here makes me sick.
    It really is as low and simple as that.

  137. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    Blah, blah, blah.

    Bollocks.

  138. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    The reason why I have a hard time believing the “Blame the (((Zionists)))!” mantra of WNs is simple: Cui Bono?

    Who benefits from the turmoil in the Middle East?

    Iran has now gained influence in Syria and Iraq which fought a bloody 10-year war against Iran. Israel is now facing a bigger threat from Iran than before the genocidal wars in the Middle East. Same with Saudi Arabia. Whatever the Israel Zionists thought of the Oded Yinon Plan, that plan is wishing thinking because it clearly isn’t working.

    So, in your mind, a well-documented and mostly realised Jewish plan to weaken, fragment and destroy its perceived enemies in the ME is just a figment of “WNs” imaginations if it encounters any kind of setback.

    That’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve read this year so I’ve skipped reading your other “arguments”. You should stop posting.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  139. @antibeast

    I think few Western dissidents blame Muslims, or non-white immigrants more generally, for the destructive cultural trends of the 20th and 21st centuries, apart perhaps from some of the nuttier Counter-Jihad types (who are controlled opposition anyway). These would rather be largely the work of other minorities, which have been present in our countries for a longer time.

    However, that proposition does not contradict the fact that non-white immigrants are themselves a deeply negative and undesirable phenomenon for other reasons. They are an opportunistic infection rather than the primary cause of our social illness, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t also a problem that must somehow be dealt with if we are ever to recover any semblance of health.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  140. antibeast says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s like saying Turkey should be blamed for helping Al Qaeda and ISIS before attacking Syria. The fact of the matter is that the USA destabilized the Middle East by invading Iraq and by supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS until Russia came along to stabilize the region by defeating Al Qaeda and ISIS with Iranian support. By the way, the CIA created the Al Qaeda in Afghanistan while ISIS has showed up in places like the Philippines which begs the question: how does that help Israel in the Middle East? Makes no sense.

  141. antibeast says:
    @John Regan

    I agree with you that mass immigration creates even more problems for Western Countries. But that’s a separate issue from the social problems created by the counter-cultural trends which started in the 60s with the Sexual Revolution and the Feminist Movement. Now Western Liberals are promoting homosexuality and transgenderism. The animalistic “sex, drugs, rock’and’roll” lifestyle which originated from the Black Ghetto Culture in the USA has practically destroyed the traditional family values of White Christian Culture of Western Countries. The excessive individualism, sexual hedonism, amoral lifestyles promoted by Western Liberalism can’t be blamed on non-White immigrants who come from non-Western countries in Latin America, Asia and Africa where traditional family values are still observed based on their Hispanic Catholic, Hindu, Islamic, Confucianist, Buddhist and African Christian values respectively. It’s White People in Western Countries who are screwed up not the non-White immigrants who arrived decades after the demise of the White Christian family in the West.

  142. @Anonymous

    America-haters call for more unchecked immigration as (((Amazon))) looks to liberal courts to support rights to censorship in the US. Apparently private ownership
    by anyone in the world trumps 1st Amendment.
    ATT and other phone companies were not allowed to tell us what we could talk about. These Zionist tech giants want complete control of content. Trump/Congress will give it to them. So, who do they really work for?

  143. Pericles says:
    @A123

    Given that Germany is embracing a neo-Luddite world view, it is hard is see how the EU can make progress under German rule.

    Germany is still literally a country under military occupation, so don’t expect too much leadership.

  144. Please observe the chart of Deutsche Bank. Not so much time until final buyout an sell-off trough EZB. Best regards

  145. @Kim

    1. Perhaps you are not aware of this, but one billion barrels of oil is equivalent to just 12 days of global consumption. So in the big picture 25 billion barrels of oil is a trivial amount.

    World oil consumption is around 100 million barrels per year. 25 billion barrels would then last 250 years at present rate of consumption.

  146. @eah

    Really disturbing. There is no words for it all….

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