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A Dutch newspaper’s reaction to De Gaulle’s first veto of British membership of the European Community in 1963: “Look, they are part of Europe, you aren’t!” France then had been eager to maintain ties with newly-independent black African countries.

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After a great deal of delay and kvetching, Brexit is finally happening. This doesn’t mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. While leftists may hysterically accuse Boris Johnson of being “racist” – seemingly only for speaking humorously of burqas as resembling letter-boxes – the Prime Minister and his multicultural team can be counted on to pursue a policy of Globalism in One Country. The main significance is this: getting liberal/globalist elites to respect democratic outcomes even if they don’t like them. This is an important precedent.

In truth, Britain’s position within the EU but outside both the Schengen Area of free movement of people and of the Eurozone was arguably optimal. This granted London considerable influence over a major economic bloc while staying out of the zanier schemes. The only real downside of EU membership was in preventing any legal way of keeping Eastern European Gypsies out of the country.

Despite “Remoaner” hysteria, leaving the EU is not the end of the world either. I’m sure Britain will be able to get on fine outside the EU and indeed both the British and the Continentals have strong incentives to get along. Perhaps Britain will reinvent itself as a global tax haven. After all, Europe’s share of global GDP has been rapidly declining over the past decades.

Britain’s departure is a major economic blow to the EU. Brexit will leave a €7.5-billion hole in the EU budget, Britain being the biggest contributors besides the Germans. Britain was one of the EU’s few dynamic major economies (along with Germany and, to a more limited extent, France) and the only one with a semi-serious tech sector. The bloc will be reduced to 450 million inhabitants and will become a distant third in terms of GDP behind China and the United States of America.

On the positive side, Brexit may make the EU a more cohesive Union. Without Britain, the bloc is already taking a hard protectionist turn. Indeed, the Latins and Eastern Europeans are all protectionist, while Germany has a discovered a newfound interest in ‘industrial policy,’ leaving the free-trading Dutch and Nordics a small minority. While European foreign and defense policies are mostly empty talk, the EU is a genuinely powerful trade bloc, with real clout on market regulation (witness those annoying GDPR privacy popups), antitrust, anti-dumping, and trade negotiations.

Still, I would not expect miracles. Despite lack of British participation, the Continentals have yet to make anything coherent of the Eurozone. During the Cold War, Western Europeans were subject to much more significant geopolitical pressure – economic, military, and cultural dependence on the United States, a massive Soviet military threat, humiliating energy dependence on the Mideast manifest in the Oil Shocks – without this leading to any serious attempt by the Europeans to recover their sovereignty and power. The postwar European democracies were satisfied with the Pursuit of Purchasing Power. The threats of today really are less immediate or downright minor in comparison.

Charles de Gaulle at a press conference, ever pedagogical.
Charles de Gaulle at a press conference, ever pedagogical.

Brexit happening seems a good time to recall a farsighted Frenchman who predicted that none of this would work: Charles de Gaulle. President de Gaulle twice vetoed Britain’s candidacy to join the then-European Economic Community (EEC), causing an uproar in Atlanticist circles.

De Gaulle had long thought that the so-called “Europeanists” were not sincere and/or coherent in their claim to be building a strong and independent federal Europe. He said in a May 1962 press conference:

France’s proposals [on Europe] have raised two objections, which incidentally are perfectly contradictory even though they are presented by the same people. . . . These critics tell us: “You want to create a Europe of nations, while we want to create supranational Europe.” As if a simple phrase were sufficient to confound these powerfully established entities that are the nations and the States. And then, these same critics simultaneously tell us: “England has submitted its candidacy to join the [European] Common Market. So long as they are not in, we won’t be able to do anything political.” And yet, everyone knows that England, as a great State and a nation true to itself, will never consent to being dissolved in some utopian construct.

Prescient words!

The British comedy show Yes, Minister! has a scene very humorously making the same point.

Six months later, De Gaulle vetoed Britain’s entry of the EEC, citing British ties to the United States, economic relations with the Commonwealth, and general differences with those he called “the Continentals.” In January 1963, De Gaulle said that in the event of British membership:

We can expect that the cohesion of all the members, which would be very numerous and very diverse, would not last long and that, in the end, there would emerge a colossal Atlantic Community under American dependence and leadership, which would soon absorb the European Community.

This eventuality may appear perfectly legitimate in the eyes of some, but it is not at all what France wished to do and has done, which is a genuinely European construct.

In short, De Gaulle accused the British of being a kind of American Trojan Horse . . . and who could blame him?

In 1967, De Gaulle again vetoed British membership citing basically the same concerns. Britain could not join the EEC unless Britain either changed or “if the Continentals forever gave up on creating a Europe which is European.” Historically, the latter view prevailed.

As a rule, the early “European federalists” were never interested in creating a strong and independent Europe. Like Jean Monnet and Walter Hallstein, they were just Atlanticist networkers, whose personal prosperity depended on these deracinated and foreign circles, rather than on Europe’s native power. I cannot tell you how revolted I was when I tried to read the memoirs of both Monnet (600 pages of nothing) and Hallstein (who claimed, in 1970s, when the EEC was barely an entity at all, that the Europeans were “halfway” to federation and just needed one last push to get there).

Anyway, Britain’s departure from the European Union opens the way for the Continentals to try, a bit more earnestly, to create a truly sovereign and independent “European Europe.” This is not an absurd ambition. London was in some ways Europe’s only top-tier “global city.” Paris, Berlin, and Brussels really are secondary nodes. There’s a charmingly provincial quality to European politics which must be preserved. While in the Anglosphere Jews and Asians have massively displaced White Gentiles among their cultural and economic elites, the same is not really true in Continental Europe, certainly outside of France. Time will tell.

 
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  1. A123 says:

    Anyway, Britain’s departure from the European Union opens the way for the Continentals to try, a bit more earnestly, to create a truly sovereign and independent “European Europe.” This is not an absurd ambition.

    The chances of further ‘integration’ are slim to none. The EU requires unanimity for major actions. The German ideals of export mania and Austerity Economics have mortally offended (at a minimum) Cyprus, Greece, Hungary, Poland, and Italy.

    Further EU disintegration seems much more likely as an outcome. Merkel & Macron gambled on keeping the UK and it’s annual contribution hostage. The Globalists are ~12 months away from an economic catastrophe and they have *no plan*. Their only options seem to be:

    — Germany picks up the entire UK contribution to keep the EU budget flat. Given the impending German recession this is unlikely.

    — Germany refuses to pony up, and there is no one else. Subsidy payments to periphery countries are cut resulting in a widespread resistance against EU Elites and their German Austerity Economics.

    If anyone can see another credible alternative for the EU budget please share.
    ____

    Italy will be the true test within the next year or two. 5Star (anti-EU) is rapidly weakening due to the pressures of an an unwise coalition with the DP (pro-EU). As a result, Salvini and his Lega party are going to retake control at some point. Given the current state of Italian-German relations, Lega will tell the German sock puppet ECB exactly where to place its rulebook. Hint: This involves a bodily orifice, a maternal ancestor, and a sexual act.

    Due to negative interest rates in the Euro Currency Zone, there is no room for German Elite banksters to try to side step the situation. Deutsche Bank [DB] has been on the edge of collapse for years. They are almost certain to fail in any Italian-German confrontation that brings mass uncertainty to the Euro Currency. When DB implodes, a number of other German banks with exposure to DB the Euro(€) will also fail.

    The smart players will be in GBP(£) and UK banks. Or, in USD($) and US Banks.

    PEACE 😇

  2. Svevlad says:

    They can’t integrate Britain until they themselves become cohesive enough.

    I’d say splitting the EU into 2 or 3 sub-unions would do the trick – some sort of Latin EU (Portugal, Italy, Spain, France + Ireland), Germanic EU (Austria, Germany, Benelux and the Nords) and East EU (everyone else).

    East EU could immediately, with really no problem integrate all of the remaining Balkan Countries + Turkey, seeing as it would be the most “free” of all the sub-unions.

    What would be the defining trait of these sub-unions?

    Border Controls/elimination of free movement of people between them. South EU and East EU has a massive problem of literally everyone leaving to work in Germany or France. Make it hard, so they actually have to stay where they are and improve their nations, and everyone will be better off

  3. I too would like to see the “charming provincial quality” of European countries’ politics preserved. But I fear that the European peoples for the most part lack the vigorous taste for their own ways that Mr. Durocher implicitly attributes to them. Paris is less and less French every day, for example, with signs in English and sidewalks teeming with non-French people. Are the French really upset enough about this to exert themselves to change it? Not that I can see.

  4. Yeah, so screw Greece.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
  5. It is Brixit without any Exit.
    Brexit was never going to happen.
    If so the 1972 Communities Act that tied us into the EU could have been repealed and we would have left. 3 years of delay already and more delay is to come…

    • Replies: @jim jones
  6. Anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:

    Actually, Enoch Powell was possessed of great prescience in this regard.

    Way, way back in the early 1970s, embittered that the British had voted to stay in the then EEC, Powell made the solemn pronouncement that when, eventually, the British people figured what the EEC was all about, they would assuredly leave.

    I, for one, was sceptical about Enoch’s prediction, tearing that the overwheening UK establishment had stitched it up good and proper.

    But, alas, as always, wise old Enoch was a true and gifted prophet.

  7. French must become the new Vietnamese or Algerians and resort to radical resistance to reclaim their nation. They must liberate France from the invaders like the Viets and Algerians liberated their nations from French colonialism.

    How many Viets and Algerians died in war for national liberation? Many, but they got their job done.

    There will be blood.

  8. “Globalism in One Country” — I love it! Describes BoJo perfectly.

    In truth, Britain’s position within the EU but outside both the Schengen Area of free movement of people and of the Eurozone was arguably optimal. This granted London considerable influence over a major economic bloc while staying out of the zanier schemes. The only real downside of EU membership was in preventing any legal way of keeping Eastern European Gypsies out of the country.

    Not being in Schengen just means that EU citizens entering your country have to show their ID. Legally, they can still move permanently to your country at will, either competing with the native on the labor market and lowering wages, or–just as bad–going on the dole.

    Anyway, Britain’s departure from the European Union opens the way for the Continentals to try, a bit more earnestly, to create a truly sovereign and independent “European Europe.”

    Ha! Go tell it to NATO.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  9. @Priss Factor

    Good point, Priss. We really do need to start thinking of Globalism as a kind of transnational occupation of Western Civilization. Occupation is such a powerful metaphor, and in this case, very apt.

    We are all Palestinians now …

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  10. You cannot form a nation out of groups of people who do not share a common language.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @njguy73
  11. @Svevlad

    East EU could immediately, with really no problem integrate all of the remaining Balkan Countries + Turkey

    Erdogan and his people are basically Islamists, why would you want to hand them even more influence over European affairs than they already have? iirc you’re a Serb, seems like an odd proposal from that perspective.

    • Replies: @Korenchkin
  12. opens the way for the Continentals to try, a bit more earnestly, to create a truly sovereign and independent “European Europe.” This is not an absurd ambition.

    Will never happen (unfortunately), European elites are too weak, lacking in imagination and too much in thrall to Transatlanticism, just look how spineless they’ve been over the Iran issue, content to let themselves be treated as vassals whose views don’t matter by Trump’s administration. And when in doubt, everyone else will be afraid anyway that Germans will go Nazi again and run to the Americans for providing balance.

  13. Brexit, Smexit. Britain was never a good fit for the EU. There was never a time that their fit was anything more than wishful thinking in Brussels. The EU is all about German monetary control, and US military occupation. The English have little in common with the Continent, and to expect this less than happy match to remain indefinitely was not realistic. Language forms the basis for thought, and native English speakers have a different thought process than those from the Romance-based countries. French has not been a court language since the Plantagenets, so the gap between Continental and Brittanic cultures is nothing that can be addressed by a forced union. Britain being a sea-faring nation further underscores the differences. De Gaulle was right of course, but one didn’t need to be a prophet to see the eventuality of Brexit. The differences are too great for an integrated European whole. It will be interesting to see if this loss will encourage a lighter touch from Brussels for the remainder states. Everyone likes trading advantage, but culture revolutions from foreign powers breed resentment and ill will. Especially when the inevitable downturns occur in the business cycles.

  14. @Svevlad

    The humble money is on a “Karolingian” core Europe onto which the others can condense as they see (and are seen) fit. Denmark, Czechia (sans the Benesch decrees), Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia should pose no problems in the first round.
    A separate “East Balkan” core might make sense, as will a Scandinavian one.
    Italy … the sensible solution is the Salomonic one (the original Lega proposal).
    Not likely.

    And then there´s US blackmail, extortion and divide et impera against whatever MIGHT work – precious little point in holding one´s breath 😀

  15. SOL says:

    Down with the EU.

    Does the UK still produce intelligent comedies?

  16. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    The indigenous French should go after their political class – with no quarter given – first.

    Once that is done, a ‘gentlemanly’ solution to the black/brown problem – involving resettlement in Africa – should be found.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @freedom-cat
  17. Sean says:

    The only real downside of EU membership was in preventing any legal way of keeping Eastern European Gypsies out of the country.

    Perhaps true for the relatively prosperous, but north of London and people who are in direct competition with Poles and other EU freedom of movement immigrants for jobs were sick of having their wages kept down by the immense and unending inflow of Poles and other EU freedom of movement immigrants. Corbyn was proposing to hold a new referendum on EU membership and let the Poles and other EU freedom of movement immigrants vote in it.

    Without Britain, the bloc is already taking a hard protectionist turn.

    A customs union’s bringing down of barriers between members is a way of putting up barriers to those outside it. The French and Germans would have come for The City of London risky practices (regulation of leveraging). In the final talks before the Brexit referendum Cameron got big concessions for the big banks of the City Of London (Boris Johnson’s constituency). However Poland refused to concede much on Poles in Britain claiming British welfare benefits for their children back in Poland, and there were zero concessions on freedom of movement. Britain was told take it or leave it

    The French politician who was the father of the Brexit Referendum https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-britain-came-to-the-brink-of-leaving-the-european-union-a7085486.html

  18. Amon says:
    @A123

    As always, A123, sounds just like your typical ignorant propaganda producer.

    • LOL: A123
  19. Rahan says:

    The EU will quickly enough become a United States of Europe now, with “redneck republican states” such as everything east of Austria+Italy, and “baizuo democrat states” made up of the western half+Iberia+North Europe.

    If France becomes a “political Italy”, then Europe is safe. Germany+North Europe+Iberia is not enough to push through the dismantling, replacement, and genocide program.

    In fact, let’s see what happens with Sweden and Germany. Maybe, just maybe, they’ll go sane in a few years. Should the European continent become a united sane block, which interacts in a rational and reasonable manner with Eurasia, Africa, and the Anglosphere, things will work out.

    If the GloboHomo virus can be contained:
    1) First squeezed out of France, and contained within Germany+North Europe+Iberia
    1) The pushed out of Europe and contained within the Anglosphere
    2) Then pushed out of the sane parts of the Anglosphere and contained only in big cities which can’t force the rest of the land to bow to their insanity, and only get to govern themselves…

    Then all of this could still work out. Then civilization can still be saved.

    The Jewish GloboHomo diversity, if firmly contained within iron boundaries, with no overspill allowed, can become a fairly harmless magnet for the cranks, freaks, and losers of any society. Let them go live out their cyberpunk dreams of being dangerhair trannies gangbanged by musky vibrants.

    The current Russian approach sounds pretty solid:
    1) being gay is legal, but gay propaganda is illegal
    2) “offending religious sensibilities is illegal” (protects people’s faith and dignity)
    3) forbid anyone above the level of mayor to have dual citizenship
    4) forbid “promoting ethnic strife” (protects whites too)

    That’s a set of simple logical rules basically enough to create a sanitary cordone around the malignancy. If it were up to me I’d also add some details such as “gay pride parades are allowed, but only if everyone is sober, with mandatory random drug and alcohol testing for the participants” with penalties for those who are “under the influence in public”, and no kids allowed, and such.

    With a nudge here, and a nudge there, the situation can be controlled totally within the parameters of a truly tolerant society. “Tolerance” as in “being politely patient with”, and not “mandatory manic celebration” as the baizuo West has decided to define it.

  20. Altai says:

    This is what I’ve been saying since the beginning, the UK was the main barrier to de Gaulle’s dream of an independent European foreign policy and military alliance. NATO can finally die.

    The UK was also the biggest barrier to certain banking regulations and HFT taxes.

  21. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:

    The French are the biggest race cucks in Europe. France will almost certainly be the first majority non-white country in Europe, perhaps even the Western world, if it isn’t already.

    The situation isn’t good in Britain either, but the French are far more race mixed on average than the British are. It’s almost getting to the point in France if you aren’t at least partially “Maghrébien” then you’re hardly French.

  22. @Rahan

    If it were up to me I’d also add some details such as “gay pride parades are allowed”

    For the love of God, why?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  23. The problem that the Brits have with the EU is that they aren’t running it and never would.

    While in the Anglosphere Jews and Asians have massively displaced White Gentiles among their cultural and economic elites, the same is not really true in Continental Europe, certainly outside of France. Time will tell.

    No, European elites have decided to reign as figureheads in a lanscape that those same types who run the Anglosphere are littering with denizens of the third world, to keep the underclass natives on edge and under constant assault.

  24. Miro23 says:

    We can expect that the cohesion of all the members, which would be very numerous and very diverse, would not last long and that, in the end, there would emerge a colossal Atlantic Community under American dependence and leadership, which would soon absorb the European Community.

    He was right there. And, as usual, it’s the activists who win.

    In this case the activists are mostly the globalists, chasing outsourcing profits and cheap labour. They’ve got the money, the influence and the media, and they’re already in bed with the EU political class.

    IOW the EU is a clone of the US – same as the now technically separate UK.

  25. @Priss Factor

    French must become the new Vietnamese or Algerians and resort to radical resistance to reclaim their nation. They must liberate France from the invaders like the Viets and Algerians liberated their nations from French colonialism.

    How many Viets and Algerians died in war for national liberation? Many, but they got their job done.

    There will be blood.

    The sensible alternative is to vote for Marine Le Pen in 2022.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @BDS Always
  26. “Brexit Happening: Charles de Gaulle, Noted Anglo-Skeptic, Vindicated Beyond the Grave”
    “In short, De Gaulle accused the British of being a kind of American Trojan Horse . . . and who could blame him?”

    In that particular view, De Gaulle was ahead of his time for sure. He was a man with a number of deep insights, including his views on NATO, views which unfortunately Europe has drifted away from.

    British membership represented a great strengthening of the EU. But that was never allowed to develop as fully as it should have. Britain’s classic island-bound xenophobia and feelings of special stature owing to its past world empire always were burrs under the saddle.

    I believe Britain’s xenophobes and those who still regard Britain as special owing to its history plus a government thoughtless enough to hold a referendum on so complex a matter, David Cameron’s, are directly responsible for BREXIT. I do think Cameron was regretful about his own blundering. After all, it was the Conservatives, under Edward Heath, who struggled to get Britain admitted. And who wants a legacy of having destroyed something important?

    In general, the powerful positive effects of a large economic union are things Conservatives tend to value highly. But the “small island” and “great empire” attitudes and feelings always were in conflict with the economic vision.

    Europe’s relative decline in the world’s economy – owing to the same causes as America’s relative decline, the strong emergence of new competitors – undoubtedly has encouraged Britain’s establishment to want to leave. The EU’s tendency to create elaborate regulations in many aspects of society also has very much played a role. It is an odd tendency given the EU’s lack of cohesiveness in many matters, such as the Euro. Perhaps in part, regulation represents a kind of substitute or ersatz unity.

    I’m sure the Conservatives in Britain were quietly encouraged every step of the way by American officials with visions of “the special relationship” coming to a new prominence in the world. Some people in Britain are inordinately and foolishly proud of that ”relationship,” which in reality means little beyond American insider influence, something now likely to much increase as Britain seeks new trade arrangements and a new role in the world, in both of which America must feature large.

    America’s own vision of itself has changed over forty years, and all pieces on the gameboard are now used somewhat differently than they were. America, recognizing its own relative decline, is now a decidedly more desperate and aggressive imperial power. And that reality, unfortunately, is what Britain is hitching itself up to. Conservatives in Britain likely view themselves as having a new world importance teamed up with America, but their ability to influence the team will be close to non-existent. They will have traded disliked EU regulation for America’s shameless and destructive bullying, as it now descends literally to terrorizing states it regards as opponents.

    Of course, Britain has its own share of bullies, and indeed, it now is led by one. They are the people who see a new role for Britain in the world alongside the United States, playing Robin to America’s Batman.

    America is on a tear worldwide to do whatever it can to bolster its imperial status and stop its relative economic decline. It has become frenetic at the effort. And dangerous.

    So, Britain’s leaving the EU has, forty years later, becomes something De Gaulle feared. BREXIT does seem to open a path for other European states with fears and insecurities to launch “leave” movements. The EU is much weakened at a time it needs to be strengthened, and America’s establishment can only try hiding its smile.

    The EU always has had the potential to rival and outshine America, but the EU has weakened itself over time by admitting too many countries, and certainly too many of limited economic consequence. There were a few too many visionary views of what the EU could be as it expanded and not enough practical ones.

    After all, that’s what NATO is really about, keeping Europe effectively occupied and tied up with many obligations not in its own long-term interest, including obligations to buy American products and support American schemes in other parts of the world.

    And the Europeans have for various reasons – from old WWII sentiments to Russo-phobia in former Eastern Bloc states – obligingly gone along. Europe still has some illusions about America, although Trump is certainly working hard to snuff them out. America’s narrow selfishness is becoming part of Europe’s consciousness now, at least in the old and stronger parts of the EU. Some now see what De Gaulle saw.

    Divide and conquer is always a principle used by empires abroad.

    ‘Anyway, Britain’s departure from the European Union opens the way for the Continentals to try, a bit more earnestly, to create a truly sovereign and independent “European Europe.”’

    In my view that’s an encouraging thought, but there are so many things working against it, and those things certainly include the United States, which never wants to see a united, strong European state emerge as a competitor.

    But I do think the loss of Britain does represent at least one clear gain for Europe. It now should become easier for Europe to direct more attention towards Russia and China and Eurasia in general, and that is where the future lies.

    The United States cannot realistically escape the prison it has constructed for itself with its massive military/security state required for empire, and that prison makes a far more unhappy place than Europe’s regulations.

    There is too, unquestionably, a kind of smallness in the American vision to which Britain is attaching itself – ethical, moral, and inspirational smallness – and over the long term, small visions have no power.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Amon
    , @Seraphim
  27. @Svevlad

    South EU and East EU has a massive problem of literally everyone leaving to work in Germany or France. Make it hard, so they actually have to stay where they are and improve their nations, and everyone will be better off

    Free trade in goods and services allows poorer countries to catch up with richer ones. The mistake the EU made was also to allow free movement of people and capital. People move from the poorer periphery to the core, to find work. Capital moves, among other reasons because Bulgarians would prefer their investments to be protected by German judges than Bulgarian ones.

    East EU could immediately, with really no problem integrate all of the remaining Balkan Countries + Turkey, seeing as it would be the most “free” of all the sub-unions.

    Turkey has too many people, and is too poor, to be integrated with the EU or even an East-EU sub-union. Also, Turkey is far behind Eastern Europe on human rights: Erdogan is a borderline fascist who has imprisoned thousands of people for imaginary crimes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  28. @A123

    If anyone can see another credible alternative for the EU budget please share.

    The EU will try to charge the UK as much as possible in return for “free trade”, and for membership of any of the cooperative bodies (e.g. the European Research Area) in which it wishes to remain.

    The demands may be so absurd that the UK chooses a “hard Brexit” instead.

    Given the current state of Italian-German relations, Lega will tell the German sock puppet ECB exactly where to place its rulebook.

    Borrowing more money is not a great idea, unless it expands the national GDP enough to pay the money back. Mitterand tried increasing borrowing in France in the 1980s. The costs fell on France; but the benefits were spread among its neighbours as well as France itself.

    There are two possible solution to Italy’s economic problems: either large annual financial transfers from the wealthier countries in the Eurozone (who will never agree to this) – or to leave the Eurozone.

    The Eurozone’s Target2 (im)balances seem to have peaked and are now decreasing. Does anyone understand what is happening?

    http://www.eurocrisismonitor.com/

    • Replies: @A123
  29. Anonymous[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Turkey is not really a poor country, in terms of economy and standard of living it is easily on par with much of Eastern Europe and probably has a better economy and higher standard of living than countries like Romania and Bulgaria.

    The freedom of speech and human rights issues are another matter and I would agree are behind Eastern Europe on that, but in economic terms Turkey is quite successful and compares favourably with most of Eastern Europe.

  30. @James N. Kennett

    No, it’s too late for electoral solutions. Also, LePen will be just another Boris Johnson, and all the legal institutions will block her agendas as happened with Trump in the US.

    Europe needs Gandhism. Gandhi said the Brits must LEAVE.

    For UK, Brexit won’t do anything. It needs Brexpell.

    Frenchmen must be like Gandhi and tell the non-whites, “It’s time you left”.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  31. @A123

    By German, you mean Atlanticist. Germany has an occupation government. According to a 1955 ruling by its Constitutional Court the “old reich” – Wiemar Republic – still exists.

    Decision of the Federal Constitutional Court of July 31, 1973, concerning the foundation contract between the FRG and the GDR – excerpt – pertinent section: “It is recorded (see BVerfGE, 1956-08-17, 1 BvB 2/51, BVerfGE 5, 85 [126]), that the German Reich has survived the collapse of 1945 and did not founder, neither with the capitulation, nor through the exercise of foreign powers in Germany by the Allied Forces, nor at a later date; it continues to maintain legal capability, but due to the lack of organisation is not able to act as a sovereign state. The FRG is not the “legal successor” of the German Reich, but identical to the German Reich as a state, however, in respect to its territory only partially identical.”

    https://www.principality-of-sealand.ch/pdf/e_docu_hakeburg.pdf

  32. @Priss Factor

    Gandhi was referring to the power structure, not necessarily the people living in India. He was just as interested in seeing the Muslim power structure leave India.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Priss Factor
  33. Anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Chuckman

    Tony Blair *NOT* David Cameron, was responsible for Brexit.

    Brexit, to put it bluntly, is the karmic price the Labour Party – and the UK establishment – just pay for Tony Blair’s policy of massive uncontrolled immigration into Britain.

  34. Amon says:
    @John Chuckman

    They are the people who see a new role for Britain in the world alongside the United States, playing Robin to America’s Batman.

    Given the past years revelations about the UK’s covert psy-ops within its allied nations, including the US, Australia and Russia, to influence political and public opinions to align with what the UK elite wants, I highly doubt the new British political class is content with being the US’s attack dog.

    Instead I firmly believe that they see Brexit as a chance to revive the old Empire of Greater Britannia without having to deal with the EU courts or other nations that might object to the revival of colonial mentality.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  35. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Gandhi has fallen out of favour with the left because he’s been revealed to have been an anti-black racist, anti-Muslim and a Hindu supremacist.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  36. Kali says:

    I’m finding the eerie silence of the British media regarding Brexit since BoJo’s electoral win strangely eerie.

    The election was called because of Brexit, and fought predominantly over Brexit. And yet, since BJs “get Brexit done” pre-election noise British people are being treated to the cabbals’ victory dance as “anti-sham-itism” takes center stage and Jewish Power declares itself the victor.

    This very Jewish coup seems to have caused some sort of amnesia amongst British journalists, who suddenly couldn’t give a shit over this [no longer to them] central issue.

    I kind of get the feeling they hope the public won’t notice when January 31st goes by and Brexit is still not “done”.

    I guess we’ll know soon enough.

    Until Brexit IS done the British have no chance of taking the country back from the brink of neoliberal oblivion. Only when Britain is ruled from within its own boarders can the people unite to unseat the ((( “hidden”))) power behind the throne. – Not that this notion is in any way likely, but just it’s a tiny bit more possible without the EU.

    Kali.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sean
  37. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kali

    I’ve noticed this too, the media and even Boris himself has hardly mentioned Brexit since the Tories won a huge majority back in early December.

    There’s less than a week to go until the supposed Brexit day now but it seems the media would rather talk about anything but Brexit, it’s bizarre.

  38. Alden says:
    @Dave from Oz

    English is the common language of the EU. It’s a required subject from early elementary school on and a requirement for many jobs. There’s public community college and private language schools all over Europe. Companies have their own in house English classes too.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. Sean says:
    @Kali

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-tariffs-uk-iran-nuclear-deal-france-germany-eu-a9286496.html

    Donald Trump threatened the UK with a 25 per cent tariff on its cars unless the British government officially accused Iran of breaking the 2015 nuclear deal, it has been reported. The secret threat last week, first reported by The Washington Post, which cited unnamed European officials, would have seen the tariff imposed on all European automobile imports to the US unless Britain, France and Germany agreed to the ultimatum.

    Hopefully, British diplomats will stop going around pretending to be important in the Middle East, and start minding their own business.

    http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/gusst-article-the-special-relationship-after-brexit-beatrice-heuser/

    Britain has never been of such limited value to the USA as today, when leading advocates of Brexit secretly want to turn their country into something like the 51st state of America, with further reductions in social benefits and social security, with zero-hour employments and one-pound jobs, without statutory sick leave or holidays. Pity only that they can’t tow Britain across the Atlantic. Moreover, the entrepreneurs backing Brexit want to transform the medium-sized country with its 67 million inhabitants and an average per capita GDP of just under € 40 000 into a financial center comparable to the city-state of Singapore with its under 6 million citizens and an average per capita GDP of over € 91 000. Which presupposes that (a) the unemployed steel workers, car manufacturers and miners of the UK can all become bankers and insurance brokers, and (b) that the world needs umpteen millions more bankers and insurance brokers.

    If there were millions of financial services jobs created in Britain, they would be filled by the millions of EU freedom of movement Poles.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  40. A123 says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The EU will try to charge the UK as much as possible in return for “free trade”, and for membership of any of the cooperative bodies (e.g. the European Research Area) in which it wishes to remain.

    The demands may be so absurd that the UK chooses a “hard Brexit” instead.

    Now that the UK has pushed through Brexit, the EU is in a very weak position.

    — Its ability to press for transfer payments is near non-existent, as the EU must negotiate an outcome that will be compatible with keeping Ireland in the Union.

    — The UK can wield taxes and other financial laws as a unilateral club to extract money from the EU. For example, if the EU sets odious terms in financial transaction, the UK lowers taxes on financial firms.

    — A favorable UK/US trade arrangement is near certain, which will do much to offset German viciousness.

    There are two possible solution to Italy’s economic problems: either large annual financial transfers from the wealthier countries in the Eurozone (who will never agree to this) – or to leave the Eurozone.

    There is no mechanism to force Italy out of the Eurozone. So, this is 100% impossible.

    Transferring wealth from German to Italy does not require German agreement. Italy can unilaterally decree that:

    — Italy is sovereign.
    — The Euro is its sovereign currency.
    — Sovereign nations can print sovereign currency.

    Technically, the ECB can fine Italy for this action. However, this is not a penalty when one can print money to pay the fine. Germany’s only option will be a voluntary exit from the Eurozone and reintroduction of the DMark.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Amon
  41. Seraphim says:
    @John Chuckman

    Taking the historical ‘long view’ we see that Britain was always in a state of ‘Brexit’ in regards to ‘Europe’, either isolating it from or trying to sabotage any attempt at a ‘Concert’ of European nations, in order to dominate them. Russia loomed large in the background (and it had to be the cherry on the cake) and the British ‘elites’ (with the enthusiastic approval of the plebs) worked in overdrive to pit the European nations against each other (especially Germany against Russia).
    It was certainly a gigantic task for which Britain had not sufficient resources, hence the necessity to carve an Empire of its own to muster its material and human resources (this is the root of ‘colored’ immigration to the immaculately ‘white’ Britain) and forging the ‘special relationship’ with its runt overseas. The ‘special relationship’ is not a last ditch for the deceased Empire, it was prepared in view of the inevitable demise of it for longer than we think. American troops had to be brought in a Europe devastated by two wars and bloody revolutions to keep the people quiet and American ‘culture’ (an oxymoron, obviously) to pervert their minds.

    • Replies: @refl
  42. @Curmudgeon

    But most Brits left after India gained independence.

    Also, it would be a start in the West to dismantle the Jewish Supremacist Power Structure that rules over us all.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  43. lysias says:

    The U.S. still has Trojan Horse members inside, like Poland.

  44. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Amon

    I think the reality will be Israel is Batman, the US is Robin and Britain will be the butler Alfred.

    • Agree: Old and grumpy
    • LOL: Parfois1
  45. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    A single (compulsory) European language – which has just *got* to be English, for a whole host of reasons, – would make a good deal damn more sense than a ‘single currency’ or a ‘borderless Europe’ in binding the various peoples of the EU together in one shared great big happy family and superstate.

    Of course it will *NEVER* happen. The French would never but never allow it.

    – All the above illustrates the perfect absurdity of the EU. Why it’s a contradiction in terms, why it’s doomed to failure, doomed to spectacularly crash and burn. Why it will never ever succeed.

    It most definitely *WILL* crash and burn of it’s own accord at some indeterminate date in the future, without Perfidious Albion to take the blame.

    Count on it. This is a prediction which will surely come to pass ……..

  46. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Also, there are pitiably few white, ethnically British youth – especially in London – entering the labour force each year.

    Basically, there are no mass employers of labour existent in today’s London, a city of a population of 10 millions. If such mass employers did exist, then they would have no choice but to employ a load of black or brown numpties – or Poles.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sean
  47. Rahan says:

    The EU actually offered Blair a legal decade-long opt out from allowing the new Eastern members into the UK labor market.

    Blair said “no thanks”. He used the same arguments as the pro-1965 immigration act drones in the US back in the day: https://vdare.com/articles/so-much-for-promises-quotes-re-1965-immigration-act

    Blari claimed there’d be a tiny uptick of workers from the east, and Britain would totally assimilate them, and everyone would sing Kumbaya and then become starfleet officers.

  48. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:

    Brexit is a pathetic joke, it represents the last desperate thrashings of a dying nation swamped by vicious blacks and browns who despise the native British people. The vast majority of native British people ignore the huge demographic problems they face that are rapidly destroying their nation and are convinced that weak measures like “Brexit ” will solve their problems.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @Dave Bowman
  49. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The biggest mass employers of labour in Britain are probably supermarkets and high street shop chains and the staff in most of these places are blacks, browns and Eastern Europeans as you say.

    I think the reasons are, 1. white British youth are now very much a minority, and 2. most companies prefer to employ the much more readily available non-white and non-British workers because it looks better on them in this anti-white British society.

  50. Alfred says:
    @A123

    I hate to admit it, but I agree with A123 on this one. 🙁

    Negative interest rates are the dynamite underlying the European Central Bank – it has massive assets that have a negative yield. As soon as interest rates rise, the ECB will go bankrupt.

    By not pooling their national debts at the outset, they created a structure that was unviable. There will be a tremendous scramble for whatever assets the ECB has. Already some Italian politicians are trying to get back their gold from the ECB.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  51. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    Exodus: How Migration is Changing Our World by Paul Collier

    Over half of the current population of London is immigrant, yet the population of London today is the same as it was in the 1950s when almost the entire population was indigenous. It is not credible that in the absence of migration the population of London would have halved, so the only reasonable interpretation is that immigration has induced the indigenous population to leave London. […]
    However, both Britain and the Netherlands are currently experiencing high emigration coincident with high immigration. […]
    International flows of capital and labour intensify booms and thereby inadvertently also intensify the busts that follow. […] At the time politicians like Gordon Brown claimed they had abolished the boom bust cycle. What they had actually done was to intensify it by enabling booms to run for longer: immigration enabled both public and private overspending to continue without triggering the inflation that had previously compelled governments to reign booms in. The legacy was the superbust of 2008.

    What in the 30’s Keynes called a bankers’ ramp. They are not dafties from their point of view

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  52. Anonymous[775] • Disclaimer says:

    As that current American saying has it:

    “Nothing of Value has been Lost”.

    For those of us old enough to remember the pre accession Britain of 1973, we can with absolute confidence state that Britain was by far far a better place to live and nation demographically, racially, industrially, economically, fiscally, financially, culturally, diplomatically, militarily, quality of life terms, in terms of employment and prosperity, feel good factor and confidence in the future, in the years prior to 1973 than it is now, after 43 years of the EEC/EC,/EU.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Miro23
    , @Philip Owen
  53. Anonymous[167] • Disclaimer says:

    The British significantly underestimate just how much they are despised in Europe. I see anti-British sentiment multiple times a day in many of the articles and comments on this site alone, the British are the main target for xenophobia on here.

    The idea that the rest of Europe in particular has any desire to see Britain emerge as an independent power and rival to Brussels is just naive and clueless, the reality is even most of the Europeans who are anti-Brussels would be even more against the idea of an independent Britain having influence in Europe.

  54. @Anonymous

    Brexit is a pathetic joke

    What they really need is Brexist. Securing existence of Britain, but all sides denounce when race-ism is the greatest thing.

  55. Brexit – I’ll believe it when I see it. 4 more days. Will it be “at last” or ??? WTF ???

  56. Anonymous[901] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, but in the modern world, Europe matters less and less.
    We are only a generation or so away from a time when the EU’s share of global GDP more or less matches its share of global population. Considering that in 30 years’ time large parts of the world will still be dirt poor, this is nothing to be proud of.

    As the relevance and importance of the EU wanes in the world, so will the notion that ‘influence’ in the EU – whatever that weasel phrase means – will inevitably wane too.

  57. Amon says:
    @A123

    Everytime I read one of A123’a post I feel myself lose an IQ point.

    I guess that’s what happens when you subject yourself to the thoughts and opinions of a person that sniffs his own farts and promotes the smell as the honest truth.

  58. Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister were not comedies. They were documentaries. They only get away with exposing all the truth because they fooled people into thinking they were comedies.

  59. Kali says:

    So, after weeks of silence the Telegraph, it seems has decided Brexit is happening tomorrow.
    Between 08.12 and 08.15 this morning it uploaded half a dozen articles on the subject.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/brexit/

    It could be that media silence has been maintained to appease the remainers, or it could be that some kind of soft (and expensive) exit deal has been agreed which the establishment it too scared to share with the brexiters.

    It seems the people will be made aware of the details on a strictly ‘need to know’ basis.

    We Brexit tomorrow.

    Kali.

  60. Pheasant says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    In most countries you must have several years of residence and paying into the system before you will recieve social benefits.

  61. @Svevlad

    ‘East EU could immediately, with really no problem integrate all of the remaining Balkan Countries + Turkey, seeing as it would be the most “free” of all the sub-unions.’

    This — to say the least — would make for some awkward marriages. Greece and Turkey. Poland and Russia. Romania and Hungary. Serbia and Croatia.

    Perhaps the identity you see among these exists primarily in your mind. Not that I’m actually for the EU — at least in its more ambitious form — but isn’t what makes it work at all the cultural and economic subservience of the eastern and southern states to their northern and western betters?

    The Greeks et al all try to act like nice Dutchmen. Perhaps they’re not very good at it — but left to themselves, I doubt if matters would improve.

    Break the EU up into regional subunits and national differences will come to the fore, not be subsumed. These little unions would all fly apart within months, if not weeks.

    • Replies: @Catiline
  62. The concept of “Britain” and “British” is becoming old-fashioned.

    Within a few years the long-awaited referendum will surely occur in Northern Ireland, where a majority implicitly chose to remain in the EU in the most recent election a few weeks ago. The likely outcome is that a majority will chose to leave the UK and join the Republic of Ireland. Eventually a Scottish majority will vote to leave the UK too, reflecting a sentiment that is more popular among the younger voters.

    What will remain is the Kingdom of England and Wales.

  63. ” The only real downside of EU membership was in preventing any legal way of keeping Eastern European Gypsies out of the country.”

    Not so. The opening of the EU to Eastern Europe in 2004/5 meant a flood of cheap labour – which meant real male median wages in 2017 were lower than in 1997, 20 years earlier. Meanwhile real house prices have more than doubled.

    That’s a pretty big downside. Paradise for employers and landlords, hell for workers.

    (Adding the Roma problem to the existing Irish Traveller problem certainly didn’t help though. My local paper frequently features them in the courts section).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  64. Anonymous[435] • Disclaimer says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Which, IMHO, is all for the best.

    The ‘Troubles’ of 1970s/80s are still a raw memory for those of us who can recall the barbaric murders of British soldiers, and the bombing massacres of UK civilians. In any case, NI is an enormous drain on the UK taxpayer – also Scotland is an enormous fiscal liability.

    Best get shot of them both, in my opinion.

  65. Anonymous[435] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    ‘Median wages were lower in 2017 than 1997’.

    By happy coincidence, 1997 was the year New Labour was elected, and promptly and proudly opened the immigration floodgates as their signature, defining policy.

    The real irony is that that contentious and bitter anger inducing policy had *ZERO* effect in raising general living standards – surely, the *only* point of any economic policy.

    • Agree: jim jones
  66. jim jones says:
    @BDS Always

    We took our flags and left today:

  67. @Anonymous

    I despise the British government and I’m American.

    They helped ruin my country by encouraging our corrupt elites to get us into both world wars.

    I have nothing against the British people on a personal level, but there is so very much truth to the “Eternal Anglo” theory: https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/10/21/the-tory-parliamentary-struggle-to-preserve-english-national-identity-1753-1858/

    Happy Brexit Day, Cuck Island!

  68. @Anonymous

    The ‘Troubles’ of 1970s/80s are still a raw memory for those of us who can recall the barbaric murders of British soldiers, and the bombing massacres of UK civilians.

    Yes, and I’m sure there are no raw memories in Ireland from the fact that British security forces colluded with paramilitaries in the form of the British ‘Military Reaction Force.’

    I have no deep investment in the troubles. In fact, my only “Irish” ancestors were Ulster Scots who came to America over 3 centuries ago. That said, it should be obvious to anyone even mildly literate that there was no great moral superiority in the British security apparatus during that period. Talk about “massacres” to the Irish nationalists/republicans who died in bombings the intelligence for which came to the UVF by way of the British security forces. England has never cared much for international law when it defies “supposed” English interests. Just ask the relatives of the Germans who didn’t survive Dresden, Anonymous!

    I have fondness for the British people, and deep respect for great English who defied the tyrants of their day; men like John Fisher, Thomas More, George Bell*, and David Irving. But that government is sick!

    *George Bell publicly opposed British area bombing, proving that there is always some good in the English people! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bell_(bishop)#Opponent_of_area_bombing

  69. Mitleser says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Unlike Northern Ireland, Scotland does not have the right to secede from UK and without NI, it is still the Kingdom of Great Britain.

  70. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    The tragic thing is there’s a common belief amongst conservative British people that Americans are our closest allies and cultural kin, yet in reality I find that your anti-British mentality is much more typical of Americans than any particularly positive attitude towards the British.

    Unfortunately most of these people can’t be reasoned with though, I’ve tried many times to explain to them that Americans aren’t the allies they think they are and that casual pro-IRA sentiment is quite common place there, as you have demonstrated, but to no avail.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon, Miro23
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Hibernian
  71. @Anonymous

    When we start seeing Instagram pics of globalist heads on pikes lining the Champs Elysees, then we can cross our fingers that the French are getting serious.

  72. @Anonymous

    I remember IRA guys with warrants out for them leading St Patrick’s parades in SF and NYC.

    After 9/11 New Yorkers’ desire to fund Irish terrorists seemed to drop off.

    (Though UK/US/EU still like to fund and arm terrorists in Syria and before that Libya. None of us have clean hands).

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  73. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    De Gaulle, indeed:

    Was General de Gaulle a “Revisionist”? Charles de Gaulle and the ‘Extermination’ of the Jews, By Jean-Marie Boisdefeu : https://codoh.com/library/document/1757/?lang=en
    Conclusion:

    De Gaulle had a lot of difficulties in recognizing any specific character of the “anti-Semitic measures” taken by Vichy and the occupying force.
    De Gaulle did not believe in the extermination of the Jews either in the gas chambers or by other means, and this is the reason he never used the words “extermination” or “gas chambers.” In short, De Gaulle was a revisionist. The explanations given by historians and by those who have tried to defend the general’s memory (while betraying his thoughts?) cannot satisfy free and critical minds tired of dogmas, official truths, and politically-correct thought and lies.

    The Allied Leaders on the ‘Holocaust’, By Panagiotis Heliotis : https://codoh.com/library/document/5104/?lang=en

  74. @Intelligent Dasein

    I think someone is overthinking their plans to eliminate GloboHomo from society.
    And wants to be known as a moderate, unlike those crazy Unz types.

  75. @Anonymous

    Totally agree; they have to start at the very top where all this originated. Attacking the people who were invited in won’t work; they have to aim directly at those responsible.

  76. @James N. Kennett

    Le Penn. Another Zionist puppet so where do her loyalties reaky lie, France or Isreal first?

    Exposing Marine Le Pen’s connections to the Zionist lobby and the networks of Freemasonry:

  77. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    It was the Zionists who got your country into both world wars.

  78. Alfred says:
    @Anonymous

    For those of us old enough to remember the pre accession Britain of 1973, we can with absolute confidence state that Britain was by far far a better place to live and nation …

    Agreed.

    In ’73/’74, I worked for the largest industrial concern in London – Lucas/CAV. The main factory was in Acton. All the surrounding houses were occupied by workers in the factory.

    The factory manufactured expensive fuel injection pumps for diesel engines. Most of what was made was exported all over the world. The main competitor was German Bosch.

    Today, there is no industry whatsoever in London. The factory has been torn down and the land is occupied by housing. I suspect the thing holding the UK’s economy together is money-laundering and tax-evasion by wealthy foreigners from countries that export real wealth.

    Map of factory location (Google Maps)

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  79. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    For those of us old enough to remember the pre accession Britain of 1973, we can with absolute confidence state that Britain was by far far a better place to live and nation demographically, racially, industrially, economically, fiscally, financially, culturally, diplomatically, militarily, quality of life terms, in terms of employment and prosperity, feel good factor and confidence in the future, in the years prior to 1973 than it is now, after 43 years of the EEC/EC,/EU.

    I’m old enough and I was there. This may be right demographically, racially and culturally but it’s 100% wrong on the economy and confidence in the future.

    Great Britain (1974-76) had the highest inflation in Europe, the lowest rise in GNP, the highest unemployment and the lowest output per man/hour in manufacturing – and was seen to fail on all counts (the “Sick Man of Europe”). Sterling was collapsing as the country was unable to handle the big international rise in commodity prices from 1972 to 1974. Germany fought rising prices with higher interest rates and deflation but the British Socialist/Marxist planners decided to support their highly inefficient system in Keynesian style by protecting public spending.

    This book “Goodbye Great Britian” is a pretty accurate summary of the economic disaster of the early 1970’s:

    https://www.amazon.com/Goodbye-Great-Britain-1976-Crisis/dp/0300057288/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=goodbye+great+britain&qid=1580633833&s=books&sr=1-1

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  80. Miro23 says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    What will remain is the Kingdom of England and Wales.

    Or rather London as a strange Imperial city without an Empire, rather like Constantinople (until it turned Muslim and became Istanbul).

    • Replies: @Catiline
  81. Antares says:

    The article and its discussion touch many topics that are really hard to understand.

    Let’s take the GDP. What is GDP? A country produces wheat and sells this to another country. 1 million income. Or they sell it to a local mill that sells the flour on the local market for 2 million. Then this is sold to a bakery that turns it into bread and sells it locally for 7 million. That is a total of 10 million income. But what happened? In the first case it was sold, in the second case we ate it ourselves. So what does GDP reflect?

    Or the combination of population growth and economic growth. More people means a higher GDP (it is cumulative after all). This is much easier to achieve then income growth per resident. If the population growth stalls then politicians will resort to mass immigration, no matter what or how. There is nothing that can be done against it, unless we no longer care for our GDPs and hang everyone who sees this differently.

    Or the unity of European nations. What does this mean? Currently we are circulating debt, immigrants and blames. In what else should we unite?

    My bank recently send me a lettre and it was really hard to understand. They seemed to want to describe a problem and called it “excessive savings” and that urged them to place money at the central bank (ECB) against negative interest, which I think they saw as the solution. Excessive savings cannot be a problem, and paying negative interests rates is not a solution. We know that they live from our debts. I think that they mean that people are no longer borrowing money and this makes their whole ponzy scheme collapse. This doesn’t bode well for the European dream, nor its inhabitants, but what can we do about it?

    • Agree: Old and grumpy
  82. refl says:
    @Seraphim

    The ‘special relationship’ is not a last ditch for the deceased Empire, it was prepared in view of the inevitable demise of it for longer than we think. American troops had to be brought in a Europe devastated by two wars and bloody revolutions to keep the people quiet and American ‘culture’ (an oxymoron, obviously) to pervert their minds.

    Correct! Brexit is nothing but a feature of current WWIII, which is as always, mainly an economic war. Therefore, it has always been hard to bear all this talk about ‘the people have decided’. The outcome of the brexit referendum was just to perfect for those who designed it:
    Any vote for Britain to remain would have ended the quarrels, just as would a clear exit vote. As it happened, it provided for maximum damage.

    While Brexit was being staged, the EU and above all its chief puppet, Germany, have made an ass of themselves by the most insane political blunderings.
    One must not forget that all these political ‘ leaders’ do not decide anything, but are the sock puppets for the powers in the background.

    The geopolitical game is
    – center the economic force of the West in the Anglosphere, which demands to make the EU a failure
    – betray Russia of a geopolitical partner by turning the EU into a madhouse
    – use the EU as staging ground for the mounting struggle for the heartland by making the East Europeans feel that they have anything to say, while pumping them up with American military hardware
    – terminate any chance of recovery for Europe by filling it up with Arabs and Africans beyond a level that could ever be integrated.

    As for Britain, the powers to be had no qualms about stripping it of its empire. They will not even scratch their heads when Scotland and Northern Ireland go their own ways.
    They will keep inviting the psychopaths of the world to settle down in London and offer them to buy prime real estate up north.

  83. eah says:

    The Brexit drama has been in part a show to appease the rubes — the same rotten elite is still in charge, and the UK is still being overwhelmed by non-EU migrants (i.e. people who are not white) — there is no sign that will change, and anyone who speaks out against it is vilified and liable to police harassment or arrest for “hate” — oh, and even the police seem to prefer allowing underage English white girls to be sexually brutalized by Paki scum rather than risk being called names, after which the aforementioned Paki scum are awarded taxpayer-financed legal assistance to fight deportation.

    Watching TV, especially advertising (commercials), British media is absolutely saturated with multi-racial and miscegenation propaganda.

  84. Was Charles de Gaulle a supporter of mass Arab immigration into France? My understanding is it started in the 60s when he was the leader.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  85. @Priss Factor

    I don’t think there was actually any edict of expulsion for ethnic Brits after India won independence. The violence seemed to be strictly between Hindus and Muslims. The ethnic Brits left because they didn’t want to live under Indian rule.

    In the case of non-Whites in the West, they came to live under White rule, although the Jews are now using them as their golem footsoldiers to undermine White society, most are absolutely content with living as second-class citizens in the West. The ones that aggressively demand things seem to be in most cases Jew-backed. So you comparison doesn’t seem valid to me.

    French and other Westerners will only wake up when non-Whites (most likely Muslims who have high fertility rates) starts really taking over and become visible in politics. Right now, very few White people regard immigrants as ‘colonisers’ as the image of colonialism is that of a small armed contingent holding a native population to serfdom and extracting huge amounts of wealth. The institutions of Western countries still belong to Whites and (((whites))) who are for most people indistinguishable from eachother. As such immigrants are just regarded as an annoyance at worse. Violent attacks against immigrants like those in El Paso or Christchurch don’t exactly endear people to the cause. In fact these violent events just generate sympathy in the same way the alleged Holocaust of European Jewry generates sympathy for Jews.

  86. @German_reader

    “Islamist” is a very loose term

  87. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    I despise the British government and I’m American.

    They helped ruin my country by encouraging our corrupt elites to get us into both world wars.

    Britain didn’t actually convince America at all, America was desperate for war so they could bankrupt Britain and buy all her assets for bargain prices, as detailed by David Irving.

    In regards to the Eternal Anglo, the country of America was founded by philosemitic Anglo Freemasons, so your country was hardly built on a good foundations.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  88. @Anonymous

    The real irony is that that contentious and bitter anger inducing policy had *ZERO*effect in raising general living standards – surely, the *only* point of any economic policy.

    When politicians tall about economic reasons for something, they are always talking about the national picture as opposed to the per capita picture. Per capita income can remain the same or even go down, while national GDP goes up. Money can be skimmed off the top by fat cats so it is indeed improving their economic situation.

    Easter Europeans worked for less and worked harder. One example of this is picking fruits. Almost all workers in this pursuit are Eastern Euro, they save a lot of money for the farm owners and they get paid a lot in terms of their home country wages. British people are also kind of lazy to be fair.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  89. Hirflawdd says:

    The Scots aren’t going to support independence to immediately give it away to the EU. A hard border with England, the Euro? Forget it. An independent Scotland within a British common market is far more realistic.

    The Irish Republic is a sad country, totally failed to revive their language and now they’ve turned their back on Catholicism, which at least gave them some sense of identity. OK they’re still clinging on to an institutionalised dislike of the English but they’d shit themselves if they ever got the 6 counties back. A realistic Irish patriot would prefer the country to be part of that British market rather than the cosmopolitanism being imposed on them by their EU masters.

    I wonder about Denmark, that’s a country that has always preferred England to their German neighbour, they’d make a welcome addition to that British market, a revived EFTA if you like.

  90. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    Look, the two decades from 1953 to 1973 saw the fastest rise in GDP in British history. This was coupled with the fastest rise in wages, general living standards, productivity, capital formation, housing conditions, car ownership, ownership of consumer goods, foreign travel, manufacturing output and employment, motorway construction, health and education spending etc etc – they were the ‘never had it so good’ years of Harold McMillan.

    Basically, the period after 1973 – the year of EU Accession – has been shit. Despite all the promises made of the EEC giving Britain ‘West German growth and living standards’.

  91. Anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    “Britain was one of the EU’s few dynamic major economies (along with Germany and, to a more limited extent, France) and the only one with a semi-serious tech sector.”

    Germany doesn’t have a semi-serious tech sector? Is the author talking about Romania or Germany? Germany has an enormous tech sector, they are world leaders in multiple sectors from electronics to advanced diesel engines. As for Britain, they have an advanced technology sector, but I think Germany leads them in most areas.

  92. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just passing through

    Economic illiteracy.

    Raising general living standards, that is, GDP per capita, after ensuring national security, is really the *only* function of any national government. Any government that fails to do this is, basically, shit. Hence we had the people of the USSR shucking off communism, the Arab spring, the Yellow Vests etc. And also we have the rise and rise of China – where incomes double every five years or so and more or less match or exceed those in the west in the big cities at least.

    The whole point of the Chinese dash for growth is to increase the living standards of Chinese people. Which they have done.

    As I said before, apart from that, nothing really matters a shit – losing your nation to darkies excepted.

  93. While the Brexiters triumph ( 51.9 to 48.1 % .. to be sure ) and ignore FACTS .. allow me to present some of these, simultaneously with the assertion that from now on the UNITED KINGDOM will be at the MERCY of the EUROPEAN UNION .. and that in coming Years we will find that nation with his BEGGAR HAND outside the Doors of the EU … veiled with the usual British Dissimulation :
    Approx 50 % of UK Exports are to the EU ! The Brits ofc want exemption from ordinary EU Border Taxes for that … Will the EU be so merciful to accommodate this request? …. Hmmm !
    The UK has for all my life had a NEGATIVE BALANCE of Payments as well as Trade.

    [MORE]

    The only thing which has created MONEY for the British TAX Coffers is the Financial Industry of the City of London.
    Many of The Financial Companies from London have already moved to the Continent ..and more will follow. What then ?
    From where will the UK obtain those monies necessary to run a State?
    British Companies are NOT competitive compared to their European Rivals!
    The most astonishing and successful Industrial Enterprize in our part of the World is for ex AIRBUS .. which has outcompeted the mighty US Companies …an entirely EUROPEAN VENTURE after the BRITS bailed out ..
    OK .. UK can become a JEWISH MAFIA TAX HAVEN .. it already to a degree is…. Casinos, Bordellos , Money Laundering and Loan sharking and other typical Jewish Business Models … ?
    .. And then .. there is SCOTLAND … and IRELAND.
    If this RISKY BRITISH ADVENTURISM goes Wrong .. be sure SCOTLAND and IRELAND will leave the United Kingdom.
    Left will be the DANE LAW and Surroundings as well as a HORDE of PAKISTANI IMMIGRANTS.
    Let me in this narrative delineate the Accomplishments of the EU :
    Europe has lifted out of backwardness the whole of South Europe. I have witnessed this in Cyprus . When i came there Cyprus was a backward underdeveloped anachronistic small Island de facto under British Rule.
    Today Cyprus is a supermodern State with adequate Infrastructure on par with most European Countries. This has been paid for by the EU . Similar development has occurred in other South European Countries..
    It has and is a difficult road .. but it has been done .
    The same process has been initiated for East Europe and is with astonishing Speed lifting out East Europeans from Bolshevik Misery.
    All paid for without causing External European DEBT.
    This in spite of a relentless ATTACK on the EURO by ZIO ANGLOSAXON GLOBALIST CAPITAL . This Attack started at the time when the Euro was about to overtake the US Dollar in International Markets .. but in spite of nefarious Attempts .. the EURO was stronger than these malicious Attempts and has survived .. quite well in fact .
    The EU has ..in spite of the British Deficits had a POSITIVE Current account and Trading Balance for most its existence. Therefore Europe only owes Money to itself and all Investments have been done for our OWN Money. CONTRARY to the Situation in the UK and in the USA !
    The INFRASTRUCTURE of Continental Europe is in a Class by itself .. without par … except for some Asian Tiger economies like Japan.
    A completely DIFFERENT situation than in the small British Islet.

    I wish the UK good luck … they need all that they can get .. and Europe can continue its project without its TROJAN HORSE !

    • Replies: @Hirflawdd
  94. Jake says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    You are correct.

    The Anglo-Zionist Empire has been a threat to everything worth having from its origin. The English were major trouble before then – see Jeanne d’Arc for one example. But with the advent of Judaizing Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, England would begin making deals that would lead to this world.

    And yes, it is essential to know that Brit WASP empire has always been erected up its elites hating and despising the vast majority of whites it rules.

    The various peoples of the British Isles, not merely including but often especially, those that the Brit WASP Elites hate most, and most deride as inferior to themselves, have shown that whenever they are free from being ruled by WASPs, they can build worthwhile societies out of wildernesses.

    The problem is not the peoples native to the British Isles as a whole. The problem is WASP culture and those elites produced by and for WASP culture.

  95. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    In the US only a few arch fundamentalists have ever openly expressed sympathy for the Orange Irish. The vast majority of their American cousins are far more interested in NASCAR and country and western music.

    IRA sympathy is very concentrated in New York, Boston, and, to a lesser extent, Chicago. You don’t tend to find it in the rolling hills of Wisconsin or in St. Louis, Kansas City, Cincinnati, etc.

    Support for the British position is from WASP establishmentarians, few in number, but with great, although waning, influence.

    The attitude of the vast majority of Americans towards the UK is summed up by a few key words:

    “One if by land, two if by sea!”

  96. @Sean

    The population of London went down to 7 million in the late 70’s/early 80’s. Falling to 5m was on the cards. Then came oil, for which the EU has taken the blame.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  97. Hibernian says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I witnessed their sympathizers openly collecting money in a supermarket on the far SW side of Chicago in the mid 80s. I found this abhorrent. OTOH, the policies of the British have also been abhorrent until quite recently.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  98. Hibernian says:
    @Just passing through

    New England, Virginia, and Pennsylvania were each founded by very different types of British people.

  99. @Anonymous

    Wake up and get real. It was nothing to do with the EU. I was there too. Our engineering industries were stuck in the 1930`s. The tail stocks on the lathes in the factory where I did my apprenticeship were dated 1908/1911.

    Oil made things worse not the EU. First a lack of it. Did you try finding a job in 1975? Then too much of it. This was the real killer.

    Oil pushes up the currency. Retail and other imports boom. Manufacturing declines. Oil tax fuelled public sector expands. Foreign assets are cheaper to buy than local investment, so finance expands. Inequality rises. Low wages for natives are high wages for foreigners so immigration rises. This is the Dutch disease. Britain had a much worse case than the Netherlands. The EU was scapegoated.

    The EU rescued our civil aerospace and allowed us to build commanding positions in pharmaceuticals, wireless technology (UK designed GSM beat CDMA thanks to EU, base stations, handsets, Bluetooth, 5G all British designs down to that) and CCGT not coincidentally our biggest and most important exports.

    • Agree: Vaterland
  100. @Alfred

    That was oil not the EU. See my longer comment to anonymous.

  101. njguy73 says:
    @Dave from Oz

    You cannot form a nation out of groups of people who do not share a common language.

    Switzerland has entered the chat.

  102. Hirflawdd says:
    @Ole C G Olesen

    50% of exports go to the EU? Not really, much of that is worldwide trade but going via Rotterdam.

  103. Catiline says:
    @Miro23

    London’s mayor is Muslim.

  104. geokat62 says:
    @Anonymous

    The real irony is that that contentious and bitter anger inducing policy had *ZERO* effect in raising general living standards – surely, the *only* point of any economic policy.

    You think the Traitorous Shabbos Goy, Tony Bliar, opened the immigration floodgates for economic reasons?

    He did it to appease his Jewish Supremacist masters who were keen on implementing the plan that Barbara Lerner Spectre warned us about. He did it because they promised to reward him with plenty of shekels for destroying his own country.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  105. Catiline says:

    The Greens and liberal Renew Europe groups are set to lose out the most from the reshuffle, which will take the legislature from 751 to 705 seats, while the center-right European People’s Party and Euroskeptic Identity and Democracy group will emerge as the biggest winners.

    Geographically, the British exit will boost the influence of Southern European delegations in the chamber. Spain for example is set to gain five seats and its delegation will surpass the Romanians within Renew Europe. Italy picks up three, while France gains five

    https://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-reshuffle-details-after-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR2I17Oy4KA5ttapO8uJWBDv0tEXiW0VBGl6ao0QWA-XJTEILdlRv5VGHhU

    I support Brexit.

  106. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Anyway, Britain’s departure from the European Union opens the way for the Continentals to try, a bit more earnestly, to create a truly sovereign and independent “European Europe.” This is not an absurd ambition.”

    Wasn’t the EU Hitler’s brainchild? \Its what I’d heard from some sources- not sure if that is true or not.

    Anyhoo, regardless of who thought it up, the whole scheme was [and is] just another big government scam designed to systemically rob the gullible masses and further enrich the elites , so, as the author states, its certainly not an “absurd ambition” from their [the elites] point of view.

    The UK’s exit from the scam is just another giant nothingburger. The UK was already socialist going on full-on commie when I left in ’83, its departure from the EU just means that its own commie government can instead fleece it own citizens more directly and effectively, without the commie EU’s own direct interference in the fleecing process.

    So for the gullible Brits, its merely a case of “out of the frying pan, into the fire”, but I doubt the dimwits over there will ever get it- they’re too busy congratulating themselves for finally getting out of the EU [if that’s even true].

    And so it goes……

    Regards, onebornfree

  107. Catiline says:
    @Colin Wright

    but isn’t what makes it work at all the cultural and economic subservience of the eastern and southern states to their northern and western betters?

    No, it doesn’t. (Clown.)

    • Troll: Colin Wright
  108. Trinity says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    England and (((their rulers))) are not on my favorite list as well, but like you, I have nothing against the common everyday Cockneys and such. hehe. Can’t judge the British people by (((their rulers))), that would be like saying “our” government represents the American people and we all know that nothing could be further from the truth. One good thing about these articles concerning happenings across the pond is that as screwed up as America has become and its getting even worse, we look pretty darn good next to what has happened and is happening in Europe. AMERICA AND AMERICANS MUST HOLD ON TO OUR FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENTS OR RISK BEING AS SCREWED UP AS EUROPE. My gawd, what a mess it is over there.

    Jean Raspail was some kind of prophet. Who could see this coming to Europe back in the early 70s? I mean sure, Europe had already started to brown somewhat, but this has really been amped up full scale now. I would have thought America would have been the first to sink. Not that America doesn’t have her problems with third world illegals and malcontents, but we seem to at least have some hope. As bad as Trumpstein is, and he is bad, at least he seems to have at least closed the gates just a tad, though not much, for now.

  109. Wilkey says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Eventually a Scottish majority will vote to leave the UK too, reflecting a sentiment that is more popular among the younger voters

    .

    Scotland would turn into a rump state and impoverished backwater if it ever chose to do so. As much as some Scots love to hate on England, Scotland needs England far more than it needs or wants the EU. Scotland gets far more tax dollars per capita from Westminster than England does. If given a choice to leave again they will invariably, if narrowly, choose to remain.

    In the Brexit vote it was the older voters who chose to leave. In the Scottish independence referendum the older voters sided with staying in the UK. Both cases prove how better judgment comes with age.

    • Replies: @NigelDibnah
  110. @Priss Factor

    Hilarious! As if those surrender monkeys have the balls the Viets do. Thanks for the laugh though. Even funnier than watching French/Black cuck porn

  111. Vaterland says:
    @A123

    Of all the annoying professional disinformation agents and trolls on this site and comment section, you are by far one of the most disgusting. Congratulations, you Schweinehund. It is not surprising that the first comment is by you either. But your existence and activity 100% vindicates the necessity of European independence, especially from the USA and Jewish lobby. Therefor I am indeed glad that the US trojan horse in Europe, the UK, is out.

    Europeans, especially Germans, better wake up fast that they have serious enemies. Racial enemies even. And if they don’t work together, they will be picked off one by one by the forces of absolute evil A123 represents.

    • Agree: Catiline
    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Just passing through
  112. Catiline says:
    @Hirflawdd

    So genius, what percent of UK exports go to Europe then?

  113. @Rahan

    …live out their cyberpunk dreams of being dangerhair trannies gangbanged by musky vibrants.

    That was rather good. lol.

  114. Leave it to Durocher to bring in the Roma (Gypsies) to his arguments as if the marginalized vagabonds are the real threat to the Whiteness of Europe … what a joke!

    After a thousand years in the continent their numbers are nothing in comparison to the 50-year old Muslim migrations from across the world.

  115. Alfred says:
    @RichardTaylor

    I believe it started under Georges Pompidou who was the prime minister of de Gaule. He was a Rothschildist who was imposed on de Gaule – just like today’s Macron. He had parties at his house on Isle Saint Louis that were probably less inhibited than anything that Harvey Weinstein could imagine. When de Gaule was forced to resign due to the ’68 “color revolution”, Pompidou became president.

    The ostensible reason for allowing in the North Africans was to build the nuclear power stations. That plan, by the prime minister Pierre Messmer, was launched in 1974 during the oil crisis. Pompidou died a bit later. Later still, François Mitterand, another 5th columnist, allowed these North Africans to bring in their extended families. The elitist Jewish hand is evident in all of this. 🙁

    Immigration to France (Jewpedia)

    In a typical move by the Jewpedia, this chart shows considerable immigration to France from before 1974. But these immigrants were from Portugal, Italy and Spain. They have been totally absorbed by the French society and their kids are indistinguishable from the native French.

    In 1970, I had a French girlfriend in Paris. She was a bit older than me – born 1947. Both her parents were from the north of Italy. She could not speak Italian properly. She is now a French politician who loses all her elections. 🙂

  116. @Vaterland

    Germans are especially inculcated with the Holocaust legend, this is one of the reasons Greens are still leading AfD (a rather benign right-wing libertarian party) in the polls. Germans are scared that even the slightest expression of German ethnic identity will result in another Shoah. Very sad.

  117. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    euro capitalists dream of a corporate europe..like a multinational corp… has failed eh! Interesting!

    countries are people not businesses. they have different cultures -languages, outlook, desires etc. there are enough differences between all countries that require individual evolution or development to satisfy national existential need.

    it is hard enough keeping individual countries ..that have come to be however.. together far less many different countries in a group, driven together by minority capitalist needs.

    that is the only reason they are together, why they are called economic groupings…forced together to facilitate their easier and more comprehensive exploitation by the vast capitalists.. who control the politics of all the nations in there, forcing them to make such decisions inconsistent with the needs of their people

    disastrous nonsenes it all is, expensive and a a waste of time that will degenerate further at huge costs to those populations. they get up now and disciplne their reality along with their capitalists..putting them back into a place where they can be controlled..or eliminating their social position altogether.

    the capitalists have become altogether too powerful..and who are not useful to the requirements of human survival. as it stands society does not need capitlaits at all. its the other way around..capitalists need society to exploit to keep that rotten minority class of people going and in charge.

    no one is served by that. its time to get rid of capitalism, establishing popular democracy in its place. every taxicab driver, carpenter, mason etc can govern. there is no need for capitalists and professionals to run anything. let the capitalist go find other work..and the professionals too. let them go teach, do research etc rather than running countries in, and out to break-ups and brexits

    they are looming to do far wose if they are not chased out and back into regular life

  118. @geokat62

    “Kalergi plan and the hidden interests behind mass immigration ” demokracija.eu
    “The Rothschilds were of course also big supporters of Kalergi and his plans for the creation of Pan Europe …These elites crave total power over us …and the only way for them to achieve total domination is by mixing different peoples and races into one human herd , which is exactly what Kalergi advocated in his plans…he was also a pioneer of multiculturism and a new world order .”

  119. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:

    Brexit is largely based on the belief that America is Britain’s natural ally, but in reality I hear much more anti-British rhetoric from Americans than most Europeans. I think most British have a rather naive perception of America.

    It’s ironic that Brexit is happening at a time when there’s an ongoing case about America refusing to extradite Anne Sacoolas, a woman who killed a British man in a hit and run while she was driving on the wrong side of the road in Britain, and then falsely claimed she had diplomatic immunity and fled back to America. Despite this the American government is now trying to bully the British government into not dealing with Huawei for 5G infrastructure, they are truly shameless.

    Also, the Americans don’t seem to share the idea that the British are more similar to them than other Europeans are. Americans often refer to the British as simply “European” and regard Britain as very much part of Europe.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Hibernian
  120. Would you care to substantiate your assertion that , in the Anglospere, Jews and Asians have displaced White Gentiles in the economic and cultural elites in a way that is not true of the Continent, at least outside France? Are you not referring to a phenomenon which is a natural result of English being so many people’s second language and often the language in which they were educated? France’s colonial and imperial past has perhaps given it some similar benefits. And by “benefits” I do not refer to the supposed displacement because, in Australia I simply don’t see it at all. Sure you will see the usual support by Jews for major (and minor) art galleries and musical organisations and if a private school wants a new swimming pool it is to Chinese parents that it may well look with the greatest expectation. But I just don’t see the displacement. They just try a bit harder on average.

  121. @Anonymous

    Allow me to pick up your Huawei 5G reference. It is surely shameless of the US, as you say, to attempt to bully the UK over the alleged issue of security.

    Here is a basically technical question I am sure Ron Unz could answer. Would it not be possible to do national deals with Huawei, enforceable by law, that ensured sufficient control over and access to its technology and business to reduce security problems to the negligible? I assume the answer is affirmative. In which case America is, as so often, attempting to boost American business and science rather than seeking to deal with a genuine security problem other than what results from China overraking America in science and technology.

  122. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Owen

    Just think great a London of 5 million inhabitants would be.
    How much more liveable, affordable, cleaner, tidied, less crowded, less congested.

    – Just think how wonderful it would be if London could ‘magically’ lose 5 million blacks and browns in the blink of an eye.

  123. Great article, as usual. I’m not really opposed to the EU, like many of the “right,” so getting the Anglo out of the EU is a good step and may lead to the Americans leaving as well. It would be nice to see the Russians join.

  124. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    what! you have some new kind of weapon there Phillip Owen..that can blink of an eye the Black citizens of London England?

    naw man! dont kill them off though I know that is your wish just about clearly expressed. let hme go back when they came. and You to..go to hell back where you came from. and in the process repatriate some of the wealth you stole… if not all of it. and stay away from then on eh.

    we can take care of ourslves. clean up the propaganda about going to the advanced countries and buuild one themselves..not only one but many. what the hell do we need you for? I cant think of one good reason

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  125. @Wilkey

    poor england robs scotland blind, dumb and senseless –

    oil will not be treated by the UK as a Scottish export

    OIL LANDED IN HOLLAND IS CREDITED AS AN EXPORT FROM LONDON AND THE SE OF ENGLAND. GREATER THAN 60% OF SCOTTISH OIL AND GAS IS TREATED IN THIS WAY TO PUT TOGETHER THE UK REGIONAL EXPORT STATISTICS

    In a similar manner, most of SCOTTISH WHISKY IS CREDITED AS AN EXPORT FROM LONDON on the grounds that Diageo and other companies are registered for VAT there.

    ELECTRICITY PRODUCED IN SCOTLAND IS CREDITED TO LONDON AND THE SE AND TO NE ENGLAND IF EXPORTED TO FRANCE OR IRELAND. DITTO GAS

    There are several other gross inaccuracies in estimating Scottish exports arising from these adjustments. UK stats do not credit Scotland for trade in services (e.g. banking, tourism) and intangibles (e.g. financial investments or transfers)

    But despite all of this Scotland has always had – even according to UK Government ‘adjusted’ statistics a MASSIVE QUARTERLY EXPORT SURPLUS

    UK export statistics FOR ENGLAND SHOW MASSIVE QUARTERLY DEFICIT going back to the 1960’s – despite getting the credit for most of Scotland’s major exports using the adjustments above and others.

    WERE SCOTLAND’S REAL EXPORTS TO BE REFLECTED IN THE OFFICIAL STATISTICS THEY WOULD BE ‘OFF THE GRAPH’ COMPARED TO RUK

    see here for the 4 UK Nations latest ‘official’ adjusted statistics https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/RTS/Pages/default.aspx

    ALL PETROLEUM PRODUCTS CONSUMED IN SCOTLAND WERE TREATED IN THE STATISTICS AS AN IMPORT FROM ENGLAND.

    – anglo accountancy would shame a merchant

    Scotland’s “deficit” and national debt is a credit card bill run up by, and spent in, London

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  126. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    You talk a good game …… I only, sincerely, wish you and yours would actually have gumption to do what you say.
    Doubtless, today just like every other day, boatloads upon boatloads of blacks and browns have imposed their unwanted and unwelcome selves upon the charity of the white man. The white man who they all have – and secretly wish to kill.

    • Replies: @anon
  127. @Hirflawdd

    Asch .. this world is so full of Bullshit .. abstracting from Facts plain i sight … I could womit..

  128. Alfred says:
    @Hibernian

    I found this abhorrent. OTOH, the policies of the British have also been abhorrent until quite recently.

    Correct. The question you should ask yourself is why did the British finally concede to the demands of the IRA when they could have done so decades earlier?

    Let me tell you the reason. It had nothing to do with the bombings or the slaughter in Northern Ireland. It was not because Tony Blair was not a psychopath. It was for a much simpler reason than all of that.

    The Irish discovered a very simple and peaceful way to shut down London. They simultaneously destroyed the control boxes of traffic lights at many important intersections. The result was chaos. There was no way to quickly repair these things and there are a vast number of potential targets. In fact, by messing up the traffic, it becomes almost impossible to catch the perpetrators and for the repairs to be carried out in a timely manner.

    The authorities much prefer bombs going off and people being killed. In fact, many of these incidents have an uncanny way of happening at the politically most opportune moment. It is a great way to give the media a tool to divert the attention of the public from something else.

    With London paralyzed, Tony Blair surrendered.

    If you try to find on the internet references to what I have just told you, you will not be able to easily do so. TPTB are terrified of others copying this tactic.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  129. Agent76 says:

    Oct 14, 2019 Queen Elizabeth II on Leaving European Union

    Queen Elizabeth II delivered remarks during the State Opening of British Parliament.

    Feb 8, 2010 Godfrey Bloom lambasts EU Thieves’ Cartel

  130. @Hirflawdd

    You exaggerate the scale of Rotterdam, which is mostly cargo for other EU countries anyway. Maybe a little to Russia.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  131. @Hirflawdd

    I prefer to emphasis Elystan Glodrydd myself.

  132. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    talk what good game? and are you really smart? they say all in these pages are intellectually superior?

    are you really superior but playing the fool to catch me off guard with such a threadbare opinion?
    hahahahaha

    “get out of Black countries anonymous! take your friggin war machine and vamoose. Get out! get out of the economic way with your god dam sanctions. the problmem is that you want everything other people have. you are god dam thief yet you bandy about that you are a force for good.”

    nonsense! you are a lying thieving, consciousless killer..who lured a man of the people to a nation on a supposed peace mission and killed him out in the open..totally lawless, consciousless. you dropped atomic weapons on a nation killing people by the hundreds of thousands at one blow.

    your elites that is who..they do all the criminalty in the world, on Planet earth non-stop. and you as an ordianry white man profited from all of that and joined your elites in mass murder and genocide and theft around the world..and developed an iron racism that punished people of color something awful for a very long time

    thats you! destroying the nations of colour and the people have nowhere to go but where you live. where the hell else should they go but there? you smash their countries!!!

    and the white elites gladly take them in… to destroy the economic base of the establshed working classes and ordianry white people of your nations so they dont have to pay you anythng for your labor. they do it deliberately, calculated for this very purpose…the same people, your people- white elites…they destroy the blams mans nations to do that to you a white man and to all white people…. and all of you who thought you were all of that now discover in pain that you are not that at all, the the white elites have as little regard for you as they had for peoples of color all the time..that it was all a game of divide, rule and plunder all along the way

    all like you who thought you were all superior and supported your elites in their destruction of people of color now discover you are not…that to the white leites you are just labor to disposes of as they see fit

    the Black people used to shout that at you during the civil rights movement when you spat on them..and onwards. ‘you are working class’ they said: ‘exploited like everyone else. your time will come too. its best that you join up as we are all in the same boat. if you see the truth and join up we may be able to change reality in our favor!”

    but you were superior..you paid not mind. but now you time is here. the white elites dont care about you. they will continue to smash the countries of people of color and bring their rabble, flotsam and jetsam all to Europe, England, the USA, Oz and the Kiwi islands, to Canada. that is why Black people flood your countries now… because the white elites drove them there to bell you.. as rep of all ordinary white people. it’s good wood for all of you from now on out…especially when automation takes full stride

    I dont want Black people there..or here. I want them at home buiding up their own patrimonies..and the white man out in all and every way. mutually beneficial trade I dont mind, but no military invasions, occupations, no economic sanctions, no mass murders and theft of my resources..thieves most of you…murderous thieves

    and you accuse me of talking a good game as if I am the one responsible for it all. it is you who are responsible… by your silly racism and racist mind..and your elites who set you up with that stupid mind, set you up to express that foolish opinion above..exploits you thoroughly still to this day when you should know better from all previous human experience…and because he has his way with you it makes him strong enough to have his way with the rest of the world.

    that could not happpen if you were smart..if the white working classes and ordinary people were smart..if you were smart and got your head out of racism and white superiority, and saw yourself for who you really are, then you would be able to act in your individual and collective best interest, as an exploited class of people and bell the white elites..to save yourselves first.. which would allow the god dam rest of the world to do the same for itself

    you have an opinion but it is a small ‘o’ opinion..nutten much at all. and it wont get you anywhere..playing games with me or not. you just wasting good time

    • Replies: @Poco
  133. @NigelDibnah

    Same happens for Wales. Also, we are large net exporters of water and electricity to England and Ireland. None of that shows up in fact calculations. All the UK nations and regions underperform due to the concentration of corporate HQs in London.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  134. @Alfred

    Already some Italian politicians are trying to get back their gold from the ECB.

    We probably should not overlook the fact that, unfortunately, that gold is already in Tel Aviv.

    That’s a problem.

  135. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Owen

    Aren’t most nations with a large population and varied geography unequal in this way though? I’m sure that within France, Paris performs significantly better than the rest of France, but the rest of France don’t make such a big deal out of it because they all see themselves as French.

    The only reason the Scots and Welsh do make a big deal out of it is because they see themselves as entirely separate nationalities to the nation that London is located in, England. Most other major countries don’t have that problem.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    , @Alfred
  136. @Anonymous

    Few large(ish) countries are as centralised as the UK and France. Not Spain nor Germany nor Russia, certainly not the USA. It makes a material difference to inequality and culture (regionalised television for example).

  137. In spite of all temptations to belong to other nations he remains an Englishman!

  138. MBlanc46 says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    “We are all Palestinians now”. I’ll be using that.

    • Replies: @Znzn
  139. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    The Sacoolas affair is because of a crazy “right-wing” President who is the Left’s caricature of a right winger, jingoistic, militaristic, and authoritarian. Any other President would waive extradition while ensuring that she got good legal representation. Under any other President, Sacoolas would not have been advised to run back to the US. In the immediate aftermath of the accident she was repentant and cooperative, as she very well ought to have been.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. Hibernian says:
    @Alfred

    I think this could be dealt with by putting cops on double shifts to direct traffic until repairs were made. In the mean time people make do just as they do in blizzards, blackouts, etc.

    Color me skeptical.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  141. Anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    Not true.

    The American government basically *never* hands over ‘its own people’ to foreign jurisdictions. By ‘its own people’ I mean US service personnel, diplomatic staff, CIA employees etc.
    American military personnel based overseas have a long long record of offending against host populations and scurrying back to the States scot free.

    Consider, for a moment, the inordinate number of rapes and murders committed by black US servicemen upon Japanese women in Okinawa. Have any of the perpetrators ever been handed over to Japanese justice,?

    This all serves as a warning to what the *real* nature of an American occupation of Europe will be like.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  142. Znzn says:
    @MBlanc46

    Aren’t white people treated even worse than the Palestinians? At least the Palestinians have their own territories reserved for them in the West Bank, where they are allowed some amount of self government, are Whites allowed to have territories in the US, Canada or Europe that are reserved solely for genetically white people? And Arab Israelis at least have own their party in the Knesset to advocate for their issues, are White Americans allowed to form a White only party in the US Congress to advocate for issues relating to White people, so by this measure Whites are treated even worse than Palestinians who at least will be given their own self governing rump state. And the Palestinians even get to have their infrastructure costs payed for by the US taxpayer.

  143. Znzn says:

    I mean if the whites were granted all the US east of Colorado as their own territory Stormfronters will actually consider that a deal of the century.

  144. So is Germany, just for example, going to put its money where its mouth is, re-establish economic relations with Russia, and tell Amerikastan to go to hell? No? Is France, where Macron openly talked the other day about the urgency of repairing relations with Russia, going to do a thing about it? Also no? Is the EU going to formulate a foreign policy independent of the orders of Amerikastan? No? Is the EU going to ignore Amerikastani orders to isolate Iran? Still no? So what difference does it make to the EU that Amerikastani colony Brutain is out of it?

  145. padre says:

    Poor Europe, what will they do without mighty Britain,who is almost as strong as Germany!Now that you are free, you should stick to commenting your future, and leave EU to worry about hers!

  146. Ahoy says:

    Brexit is a sign that the white anglo is trying to resist the onslaught of the vile globalization. If there is any hope for defeating globalization then there must be a Congrexit. Let that sink in your mind.

    Ever since 1987 were planning to decimate the white man and his civilization.

    https://altcensored.com/watch?v=X3LNz2qLlFA

    America has ceased being a Republic long time ago. It has been transformed to representative democracy. A true dictatorship of sinister bankers who behind the one person one vote slogan they deceive the many and trough the power of their money select who will fill what position.

  147. Poco says:
    @anon

    I truly, very sincerely wish that we would have nothing to do with you. If I had the power to do so I would make it happen. The US should never have instigated or become entangled in any of your squabbles. After having invented a use for oil we should have kept the development of the industry secret. You could be peacefully herding and fucking goats now. As is your wont.

    • Replies: @anon
  148. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    that would be paradise Poco. I agree with you. can we rewind and untangle?

    short of that just vamoose willya..go home and stay there, so we can do the same!

    • Replies: @Poco
  149. Anonymous[668] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of British believe that Americans regard Britain more fondly than other nations and think of it as their cultural homeland. The truth is most Americans couldn’t be more indifferent to Britain and the typical “Joe Average” American is hardly even aware that the English language is native to Britain.

    If Americans think of Britain at all it’s usually in the context of Britain being a colonial oppressor state that they fought against and oppressors of the Irish. Some WASP types see Britain positively, but that is a very small percentage of America and far removed from “Joe Average” American. Also, the average American tends to dislike “WASPs”, reinforcing the tendency towards anti-Britishness in American society.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  150. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Poco

    the truth hurts eh! good..some sort of recompense I imagine..for me and mine that is. not enough however: full reparation for me is that you leave period… no more strings. whatever future relation emerges it would have to be mutual on all levels..or none at all.

    keep all that you have..I want none of it. whatever I need I will make myself, relevent to my own situation and in my own cultural ways. keep all our secrets…as if you have monopoly on brains and human inter-relatioship with the environment.

    I cant imagine African people, free from western social impregnation full of destructiveness and general stupidity, and over-bearing forceful imposition, to continue making things that degrade the people and environment.. from conception to manufature and waste..pissing on and in the house in which they live.

    we can use the sun for power leaving oil for you. there are more alternatives as well.

    silly poster: inventing the use of oil and keeping it secret! what utter self destructive nonsense.

    when did white americans invent any such thing..on their own by themselves. that is not how any human development in the world came to be..and goes on. the process of human knowledge is a collective thing started wherever, keeps expanding and travelling…collective, by morphic resonance, morphic fields. if its done here for the first time it becomes progressivley easier untill all the world is facile in the process

    far from the USA giving any god dam thing to any nation the USA has been shutting down nations, smashing them when they start to make themselves successful, pourng bullshit propaganda, faith- based education on these nations for that purpose, making them stupid. this is the case even at home in the USA. all US citizens know now how to be stupid to get ahead, especially on the job… or get fired for being too sharp and so dangerous to the status quo

    why would I want to live next to Poco..a hundred million Pocos..all fools, replete with nonsense opinions. the truth hurts but it is the truth any way..nothng to be done about it save to try change it from the crap it is, into better…

    America is not a good neighbor to the world..not in the least most miniscule manner. and avoiding that fact is pointless for as much as a victim demonstrates weakens is the more the USA imposes itself..relentlessly. you have to fight back period..no if and ands. there is the evidence all around us US behavior in the world..there is no way to hide from the facts. for eg., I will bet good money..the little I have… that at the end of the day it turns out that Coronavirus in China was an example of american biological attack on China, to derail China permanently.

    and watch what will happen..Like Paul Craig Roberts, indeed a white American and a personality for whom I have great respect..China will try to suppress news of that event as american attack, in effort to avoid war. in that regard the Chinese are like the Russians who do the same relative to american provocation.

    and to the extent that both those nations wont fight back at the same levels the USA attacks them reads as weakensss to the americans.. and it is.. and america attackes even more..relentlessly.

    am I wrong..is Roberts wrong? no! Roberts is not wrong nor am I.

    the likelihood of nuclear war is nigh upon us because there is bound to be a limit that the USA will cross relative relatve to those two countries. the USA wants and needs the world. if it does not get the world western capitalism must turn in on itself and collapse.. the capitalists must consume the planet to save capitalism and the capitalist class. therefore it is guaranteed that the capitalists will cross the Russian/Chinese limit and there we go. no doubt..a matter of time and soon, for american Capitalist urgency is speeding things up

    and note eh Poco! if and when the world is consumed and the capitalist are set, dominant globally, then comes our turn in full..yours and mine as working class and ordinary people, as the development of automation grooves into full stride. the system changes qualititatively into true Brave New World. there would be no more need for 7 billions planetary..massive population reduction and genetic engineering etc.

    the capitalist will not be challenged socialy for control of society, will not tolerate anything of the sort and intends to eliminate any and all potential of such challenge. that means a whole lot of things, all awful, terrible, bad, negative..for all ordinary people of the world..WHITES! Black, Chinese, Indian..ALL! we will not be left sentient, capable of independent thought and action. that is where the danger to elitism lies..right there. and they intend to render us all incapable of all of such behavioral potential.

    what is important is power, in charge..not money ultimately and great wealth. all of that are means to the end of permanent social control. and tha in the end means them and they alone in monopoly of all that is sentient and good in humanity..not you! or us! we are all in the same boat and you do not know, are not aware of it. so you fight for and defend your most dire enemy..THE CAPITALIST WHITE MAN.

    that is the most humorous aspect in all this: how ordinary people are coopted to live and work and act against their own best individual and collective interest.. to the benefit of those who intend to kill and enslave them all off!!!

    the truth hurts eh Poco! good! it should rip your heart up and out, rip it to shreds. that would be great..one less silly american to contend with. if on the other hand the truth smartens you up and you go out to collectivize in turning your country around to the popular good, and global good neighborliness then the truth would have set you free.

    but my fingers are not crossed. I dont care what you do..too late for that.

    at this point I simply want such as you to vamoose, go home and stay there. if I could I would kick you out of my world forthwith and get on about my own business. your life is yours, not my business.. do as you please with it..as long as you cant do me in the process.

    • Replies: @Poco
  151. Poco says:
    @anon

    As I said. I also believe that would be good.

  152. Poco says:
    @anon

    As I said. I think it would be good for America to leave the rest of the world to their own devices.

  153. Ahoy says:

    @ anon[139]

    You write “and get on about my own business”. With due respect, I think it is kind of late for all of us to work on our own business. They have decided before us for us what our business should be.

    and this one says that the white American will be extinct.

    https://disqus.com/by/altCensored/

  154. Ahoy says:

    the exact link to my above comment

  155. Alfred says:
    @Hibernian

    It happens to be so. 🙂

  156. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    there is enough opposition in the world to the capitalism to suggest that the capitalists might not prevail ultimately..warraning the fight to continue untill its final resolution

    ordinary people have no option but to fight capitalism. there is no positive resolution of the peoples collective interest under capitalism..no good outcome for the people. capitalism can resolve relative to ordinary people, only in the death and slavery of the people.. massive depopulation and social disposition that reduces any remainder to slaves and fools engineered into compliance

    there is no option for the people but to fight capitalism and destroy capitalism before capitalists destroy the people. thats it: the social equation.

  157. Alfred says:
    @Philip Owen

    The statistics are farcical. Let me give you an example that I am familiar with.

    Exxon has refineries at Fawley (England), Gravenchon (France), Antwerp (Belgium) and Botlek (Netherlands)

    All these refineries are a short distance from one another and they have ships that transfer products and crude oil between these refineries and associated chemical plants. That means that depending on demand, prices and plant availability, products can be repeatedly transferred between these plants. Each time there is a transfer, it is entered as an export and an import.

    It goes without saying that this grossly inflates the amount of trade between the UK and the European Union. It is like constantly moving money between your pockets. In the real world, all these plants should be considered to be one unit – as one giant factory. BTW, the amounts of money involved are not negligible.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  158. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    hahahahaha That is the future for Rural Americans????

    oh my! Krugman is sweet. Marry who you wish to marry and procreate with them if you want to. by why must your future be multi ethic marriage?

    what the hell does marriage have to do with any thing in a general collective sense? marriage is not economically fundamental/socially decisive relative to general policies of economics or governance.

    so what the hell is Krugman up to? it does not appear to be anything positive for the people he is talking about.

    those people need to get their heads out of eltie generated sectarian nonsense white ethnic nonsense, seek and come into full understanding of their reality and who has been and are manipulating it for their benefit and not that of Rural people.

    the social interest of the rural people and the working classes and all ordinary people is the same: the creation of a popular democracy over which THEY HAVE CONTROL..AND NOT THE CAPITALISTS!! like Krugman! that way they the people, can run society in the popular interest, set up society to cater to their collective interest, that of all the people, and not of special interest minority groups.

    thats it! real democracy that can be effected only by the people in direct social control, and in response to the collective needs of all ordinary folk. and if and when they are ready for marriage they would be free to mary whoever the hell they want to..and wants to marry them in turn.

    Krugman! Oh boy

  159. Alfred says:
    @Anonymous

    I’m sure that within France, Paris performs significantly better than the rest of France, but the rest of France don’t make such a big deal out of it because they all see themselves as French.

    The French outside Paris detest the Parisians. If you drive to the provinces with a number plate with a 75, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 etc., they are quite likely to scratch your car.

    Paris is where all the taxes end up. The prosperity of Paris is entirely based on its ability to suck the wealth out of the provinces. France is an excessively centralized country.

  160. S says:

    In short, De Gaulle accused the British of being a kind of American Trojan Horse . . . and who could blame him?…

    …As a rule, the early “European federalists” were never interested in creating a strong and independent Europe. Like Jean Monnet and Walter Hallstein, they were just Atlanticist networkers, whose personal prosperity depended on these deracinated and foreign circles, rather than on Europe’s native power.

    The US/UK has long pushed for Europe to become a continental super state modeled broadly upon the United States.

    Whether Europe’s government (ideally) has a bicameral legislature exactly as the US does or is parliamentary, or, calls itself a ‘union’ rather than the ‘USE’, I don’t think is a big deal to them, just as long as the super-state is formed, is at least in theory a ‘democratic republic’ of a sort, and is, as you allude, ultimately dominated by the US/UK.

    Once that had been accomplished, from a purely Anglo-Saxon elite point of view, the idea seems to have been that Europe would in time join the other continental super states of the world (the United States having been the first installment/cog of this) to form a United States of the World/World Union, all of which was to revolve around an Anglo-Saxon US/UK central political axis…ie the New Rome.

    While the 1848 Revolutions were ongoing the London Times published an editorial (linked below) exhorting revolutionary Europe to construct a super-state of themselves modeled upon the United States.

    The financial mechanics is described as to just how this future European ‘union of states’ would be accomplished from an 1898 article (excerpted and linked below) entitled ‘The United States of Europe’.

    To the writer’s credit he decries this.

    The United States of Europe (April, 1898)

    “…you may be sure that the financiers will step forward and arrange among themselves an international understanding. The money centres once working in union, the governments will follow, then the people.

    Was it not the “capitalists” of our country that instigated the insurrection in Cuba?

    We will see a United States of Europe, united in finance, and many political questions which today appear without possible solution (because we insist on arguing on abstract ideas – patriotism, republicanism, “jingoism”) will be straightened out by financial necessities, as surely as the mountain snow melted by the sun runs by nature’s laws in the streams and rivers to the sea.

    This new “union of states” will have all the attributes of our own. Where there is an even greater mixing of peoples, Asia and Europe having each contributed its contingent, they will develop the same financial ferocity and their politics will be the politics of money. Battles will be fought out at the Stock Exchange.

    When Cleveland’s warlike message made American securities drop on the London markets, how we became suddenly pacific as by enchantment!

    The social formula of the future will be bitter protection of money interests, and local patriotism replaced by a ferocious individualism.”

    From W T Stead’s 1899 book The United States of Europe which in turn as excerpted here quotes from an 1880 British general election voter’s ‘catechism’ he had written in 1880. Stead was a close associate of Cecil Rhodes of British Empire fame.

    Note the reference to Rome.

    Question: “What is England’s mission abroad?”

    Answer: “To maintain the European Concert – that germ of the United States of Europe – against isolated action; to establish a Roman peace among the dark-skinned races of Asia, Polynesia, and Africa; to unite all branches of the English-speaking race in an Anglo-Saxon Bond, and to spread Liberty, Civilization and Christianity throughout the world.” (“The elector’s Catechism.” General Election of 1880)

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924079579292&view=1up&seq=328

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015033831762&view=1up&seq=520

    https://attackingthedevil.co.uk/steadworks/europa.php

    • Thanks: jim jones
  161. @Alfred

    All of that is inside the EU, just like most of the other supply chains. The discussion is about shipments via Rotterdam outside the EU.

  162. @Anonymous

    Gandhi has… been revealed to have been an anti-black racist, anti-Muslim and a Hindu supremacist

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  163. @Dave Bowman

    “You say that like it’s a bad thing”.

    It’s an *ironical* thing because the current Modi fascist regime and its followers make a fetish of hating Gandhi, they declared the man behind the conspiracy to murder Gandhi, VD Savarkar, a hero, and they’re themselves racist, anti Muslim, anti secular, Hindu supremacists. So take that as you will.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  164. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    take that as you will

    I’ll take it as yet another of countless examples of the gross, ingrained self-deceit, turpitude and shameless and self-ignorant moral hypocrisy which has always been characteristic of the peoples of the Indian sub-continent – strong, unshakeable and overweening social characteristics (due to their millennia-old racist Caste system) which were very well understood by the military staff, colonial administrators, and every British subject who ever visited or lived there during the years of the British Raj). The vast majority of them – after more than 4 generations now of mass-immigration to another continent -are exactly the same today in every way that matters.

    You can take the person out of the culture – but you cannot ever in a million years take the culture out of the person. That is all you will ever need to understand about why the demonic nation-wrecking evil of “multiculturalism” cannot and will not ever work for the benefit of any society. Only those who care not a jot for the future of any society or the well-being of it’s peoples (ie. White-hating war-criminal filth like Tony Blair, his many Jew backers and friends, and the champagne-socialist scum of the EU leadership ) will ever pretend that it can.

  165. @Anonymous

    Well said.

    Do you have a better plan ?

    Thought not.

    Dumb White-hating cunt.

  166. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    Consider, for a moment, the inordinate number of rapes and murders committed by black US servicemen upon Japanese women in Okinawa. Have any of the perpetrators ever been handed over to Japanese justice,?

    I’m not sure, but they’ve been court-martialed and convicted. Whether the sentences were adequate is another matter. In the US military services there is no probation or parole. The type of executive clemency granted by President Trump to Eddie Gallagher is fairly rare.

    As for civilians such as Ms. Sacoolas (who was a dependent, not a diplomat herself) I don’t think there is jurisdiction for the US to try her, but I’m not sure. I understand that it’s very rare that extradition is waived; that seems to me to imply that sometimes it is. A homicide in a country with a legal system very similar to our own cries out to be one of the few exceptions, IMHO. I cannot say for certain what a President Hilary Clinton, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Bernie Sanders, etc., would do. I don’t think any of them would try to arrange a meeting between the victim’s parents and Ms. Sacoolas as President Trump did.

  167. Hibernian says:
    @Anonymous

    …the typical “Joe Average” American is hardly even aware that the English language is native to Britain.

    Maybe a slight exaggeration?

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