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The speed of social change in the modern era, and in particular in the contemporary West, is so rapid that we all are liable to feel a bit lost.

A recent example of this was provided by none other than Hillary Clinton, that most “progressive” representative of global oligarchy. You see, the 71-year-old Clinton, whose presidential campaign was premised on making history as the first female presidency, still believes in biological sex:

In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons if someone with a beard and a penis can ever be a woman, to which Chelsea replied emphatically, ‘Yes.’

However, as Aitkenhead describes it, Hillary looked ‘uneasy’, and blamed generational gaps for being less accepting.

‘Errr. I’m just learning about this,’ Hillary responded. ‘It’s a very big generational discussion, because this is not something I grew up with or ever saw. It’s going to take a lot more time and effort to understand what it means to be defining yourself differently.’

Hillary’s squirming on the topic caused visible glee in the foul-mouthed comic artists at The Daily Stormer. Meanwhile her daughter Chelsea also believes that men claiming to be women have a human right to play in women’s sports.

There’s something truly surreal about these kinds of developments. One wonders where to start.

This sort of insanity has been a long time coming. The truth is that Western civilization has been steadily feminizing for at least the last two centuries. The decline of men has become a topic of conversation on the outer edges of the mainstream media. Men’s decline has been at once biological, economic, social, and moral.

Witness the testosterone levels:

Sperm counts:

Income:

In Western Europe, the decline of men has been systematized through the use of quotas in favor of women. In June 2000, France voted a law requiring political parties to have 50% female candidates. Today, the European Commission has a stated objective of having at least 40% female managers, an objective that can only be reached by systematically discriminating against men in promotions. The EU wants to impose a similar legal quota for publicly-traded European companies, to have 40% women on all corporate boards. This would also apply to fields, such as tech and sciences, where there are few female applicants to begin with.

At the risk of discouraging people, and I think we should always be realistic, I believe the decline of men has not bottomed out yet. In Western Europe certainly, the process of evicting excess “white males above 50” – a common phrase in France – has not been completed. While there are certain protections in the United States, I suspect that “woke capital” and pious H.R. departments will become more aggressive in discriminating against men, in the name of equal outcomes between the genders, itself tendentiously equated with equal opportunities.

The predominance of women is not without consequence for liberty and excellence. A 2015 Pew poll found that women were almost 50% more likely to support government censorship of “statements that are offensive to minority groups” than were men. Women, particularly left-wing women, are more politically intolerant: one survey found that 30% of Democratic women had blocked, unfriended or stopped following someone online for their politics, as against only 8% of Republican men. The London Times reported in May 2016 that female students overwhelmingly supported censorship of university publications if these were “considered offensive to certain groups.”

Naturally, any number of truthful statements may be painful or “considered offensive to certain groups.” Most pointedly, any suggestion that men and women have meaningful biological and psychological differences, and therefore to some degree should have different social roles, will be considered “offensive.”

This highlights the self-reinforcing nature of the Western societies’ feminization.

Any rational and fact-based discussion about gender equality and the right roles for the sexes is impossible in our society. It is impossible because we cannot even bring ourselves to recognize the reality of biological sex – hence the increasingly-widespread insanity of allowing male-to-female transsexuals participate in, and thereby dominate, women’s sports. In the face of such insanity, all our ancestral wisdom and modern science – not to mention my own scribblings – are quite useless: there’s no helping people who are too dishonest or cowardly to see what is in front of their own nose.

However, for the sake of our young white boys – who are already being scapegoated for the inevitable failures to achieve equality and who need to take up their place in society as proud and confident men – I will provide a brief account of sex differences and what gender relations might look like in a healthy society.

Biological sex differences beyond the mere reproductive apparatus, known as sexual dimorphism, is the norm in much the Animal Kingdom. This reflects the differing evolutionary strategies of males and females. Almost every difference imaginable is possible, according to that particular species’ differing evolutionary strategies for males and females. Typically, while females carry and (where applicable) nurture offspring by default, males are more competitive and have to prove themselves in some way to get the female’s approval; whether this means rams battering their horns against one another or birds preparing elegant nests or showing off their spectacular plumage. (On which see David Attenborough’s innumerable nature documentaries, which typically boil down to animals struggling to get food, not get eaten, and find a mate.)

Sexual dimorphism can be non-existent or extreme. In the case of the deep sea angler fish, the small male bites in the female and gradually fuses with her, until all that remains is a pair of gonads attached to the female’s body. So far, there is no angler fish “masculinist movement” arguing for the interchangeability and equal rights of male and female angler fish.

The differences between men and women are certainly not as severe as among male and female angler fish, but they are not negligible. To be brief: men are competitive and achieve their highest reproductive potential through conquest, while women are consensual and achieve their highest reproductive potential through nurturing. A successful man might have dozens or even hundreds of children, a biological impossibility even for the most successful woman. Men’s evolutionary strategy is high-risk, high-reward. Women’s is low-risk, low-reward.

A successful man would be engaged in collective struggles with other men to seize resources, to build, to discover, while a successful woman would secure resources from her man! And Nature has equipped women with all the psychological traits and emotional skills to do so. A man is attracted to a healthy, beautiful woman. A woman is attracted to a socially successful, prestigious man with money, one who is at once a provider and a bad-boy (she is very torn on this), so as to provide for her and protect her. Hence, the media have breathlessly reported that the economic decline of men is a tragedy . . . for women’s marriage prospects!

In the prehistoric tribe, a successful man would have spent much time physically exerting himself, hunting animals or warring against other men, as part of a coalition of men. Women would have spent much of their adult life incapacitated in the home, pregnant or caring for small children. The psychological traits appropriate for these two modes of life are of course vastly different.

If you ever engage in any kind of physically difficult group endeavor – say you move to a different home with all your furniture – you will typically find that men and women revert to their traditional roles. The men will be literally doing the heavy lifting and building the furniture, while the women will be cleaning, cooking, and providing moral support (the value of which should not be underestimated).

Women also seem to be natural enforcers of social values. While men have historically controlled the priesthoods and the media, it is women who nag their menfolk to live up to the society’s established social norms and be respectable. (No doubt part of the reason why homosexuals have become so prominent in the far-Right since the latter has become heretical.) It is said that Spartan women would murder their own sons if these ever fled battle and that it was Byzantine women who murdered the soldiers who had been ordered to destroy Christian icons. Across Europe today you will find that old women are virtually the only ones left going to the villages churches.

As we have become comfortable, so our societies and culture have become feminized and infantilized. Today, it seems that women project their mothering instincts upon all the approved “victim groups” of the world: homosexuals, migrants, and minorities all are their symbolic substitute children. Any measures which does not treat these groups as “equals” with heterosexual child-rearing European families – even if salutary for the common good – is then considered mere vicious “bullying.” In the United States, White Democratic women have driven most of the shift towards the demand their be equal racial outcomes, even if discrimination is required.

In my view, following Aristotle and Darwin, human ethics must be founded upon human nature. Humans are social and potentially rational beings, who exist through the creation of successive generations, passing on hereditary characteristics. To the extent that men and women differ biologically, this may imply that, ethically, there should be different social roles for them, in order to foster maximal individual and collective human flourishing.

The most obvious of these is military service. Men being physically much more powerful than women, societies have always discriminated against men, by requiring them to serve in the military, while women stayed safe at home. (Hollywood has not yet attempted to show how strong, independent black women were central to the success of the D-Day landings, but there is still time.) The social expectation that women stay at home to take care of children is exactly analogous to this. An optimally-organized species will have sexually specialized roles, to some extent, for the benefit of the species.

The Spartans, the Aztecs, and Mussolini were all in agreement: childbirth – probably the most intense experience a typical postmodern may live today – is to women what war is to men. And so, it probably is not a coincidence that male authority has wholly collapsed at the same as peace has triumphed in our lands.

Even a couple generations ago, every day our grandfathers had to show daily heroism: working in the fields, in mines, on fishing boats, or in the military, come rain or snow. By this effort, they secured their families’ livelihood and their own paternal authority, not to mention their own native toughness.

In 1914, the Western nations dominated the world and the white race made up perhaps a third of the global population. Since then, Western nations have been in headlong decline and Westerners themselves will be minorities in their own historic homelands within a few decades. Now that is a historical reversal! These developments have coincided with democratization and, in particular, female suffrage.

The idea that feminine pursuits are less necessary and honorable, or that women have historically been powerless, is vulgar feminist slander against womankind.

I am rather doubtful that the process of feminization can be reversed, at least any time soon. I don’t even think it has peaked yet. Things will get worse before they get better. But this should not discourage you.

On the one hand, at the personal level, the general effeminacy of the current generation will make it all the easier for a young man to shine, with just a bit of effort. As it is written in Hagakure: “So many men now seem to have the pulse of a woman. There are few who can be thought of as a real man. This means that one man can surpass others by making just a small effort.” Work out, make money, form a posse, dare to have some sense, and you’ll thrive.

Western history is marked by cycles of decadence and rebirth. For the old Pagans, the rise of Christianity was a disaster. Renewal however did not occur by attempts to reset the clock. The thoughtful and zealous philosopher-emperor Julian’s project of restoring polytheism ended in abject failure. Rebirth came rather with the rise of a Germanized form of Christianity in the Middle Ages, setting the stage for the Crusades, the Reconquista of Spain, and the European conquest of much of the world. Similarly, Tocqueville was eminently realistic in the nineteenth century, knowing that “democracy” (meaning the ages of the masses) was inevitable. Hierarchy and a kind of aristocracy could only return later, in a very different form, in the twentieth century. So I believe things stand with the feminization: our mode of life means that this will not be changed. I am not even particularly optimistic about the Eastern Europeans or the Chinese – I suspect the latter’s men will crumple once their mode of life matches ours. But that does not bar renewal . . . we must adapt, create new forms, be creative . . . Young men will have to rise up to the challenge.

 
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  1. AaronB says:

    Your last paragraph is particularly important.

    You are at your weakest when you fight powerful currents, and strongest when you go along with them, and then shape them to your desires.

    Fighting Christianity did not work. But eventually, Christianity became whatever one wanted. In the Renaissance, as Nietzsche said, Christianity even became Paganism. What Julian tried to accomplish by confronting Christianity head on and failed, happened by going along with Christianity.

    And today, thinkers like Vox Day and Bruce Charlton simply make out of Christianity whatever they want.

    So too with modern trends – submit and go along with them, and then you will be able to influence the current – eventually, perhaps, completely renaming it.

    This is an old Taoistic principle – go along with a powerful force to subtly influence its direction, where head on confrontation results in mere destruction and failure.

    You cannot fight head on the spirit of the times. You will fail.

    I think every successful person in business or any other field understands the need to cooperate with powerful negative trends for the purpose of helping shape them rather than confront them.

    The rigid, unbending people who cannot flow like water, always, always, always, fail.

    So the alt-right project of head on confrontation and rigid unbending resistance is stupid and bound to fail. Never has that succeeded in history.

    But where are the subtle, adaptive, intelligent people on the alt-right? Why are there – as of yet – so few? Why are they so stupid?

  2. onebornfree says: • Website

    Here’s a recent video about an ad where the [obviously] male kid says [and no, I am not making this up! ]:

    ” Hey Dad, I think I got MY PERIOD” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Regards [???], onebornfree

    • Replies: @Alfred
  3. Ann Coulter, who just happens to be a woman without a beard or penis, agrees with Peak Stupidity that women should never have been given the right to vote. This genderbender nonsense is still seen by most as the stupidity that it is. However, the lack of understanding of the rights of men and the support for Socialism over the years has done much more damage than this new silly stuff.

  4. @AaronB

    The key is to turn the woke movement into a circular firing squad:

    Feminists vs Muslim extremists
    Tranny sports cheaters vs feminist athletics
    Environmentalists vs rich woke folks with big carbon footprints
    Hispanic extremists vs black extremists
    Dominicans vs Puerto Ricans
    Organized labor leadership vs cheap labor illegal immigrants
    Reconquistas vs white CA woke folk
    Censorship of each other

    It is the way we country folks split logs–with a wedge–properly placed and with just a little effort , the log splits rather well.

  5. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    These forces are out of our control, and I am not suggesting a strategy to change the world. I don’t want to be misunderstood as advocating change.

    I am merely an observer who does not w7sh to change the world, and who thinks these things are inevitable. Wokeness will be with us for the foreseeable future, probably hundreds of years. People who have different values had better learn to adapt and find ways to thrive in this new environment. It is possible. Rod Dreher has some ideas.

    But it will also require some amount of concealment. Which is no tragedy but an inevitable part of life – Jewish conversos in Spain can teach us something about that. And some people always have to practice concealment, in every culture.

    I am more predicting than prescribing. What will happen is that eventually the culture of wokeness, while retaining the same words on the surface, will cone to mean their exact opposite. It is sort of like how Christianity, while retaining the Sermon on the Mount, came to mean conquest and imperialism without any sense of discrepancy.

    This is how it works. And it is a process out of our control.

  6. @Justvisiting

    The key is to turn the woke movement into a circular firing squad:

    Good ideas, J.V., but we must make sure to stay WAY OUTSIDE the circle. Not many of these people have good aim (except maybe the older organized labor leaders).

    I’ll use this same comment to compliment Mr. Durocher on this great column. I have only read a couple other of yours, but I need to keep up. Thanks.

  7. peterAUS says:

    There is no Decline of Men.
    There is a Decline of White Men in the West, ONLY. And even that in middle class up.

    The stuff in the article simply does not apply to:
    “Minorities” living in the West.
    Asians, Indians, East Europeans, South Americans, Africans.

    And, even for those Whites in the middle class up, this works quite well:

    … at the personal level, the general effeminacy of the current generation will make it all the easier for a young man to shine….

    ….one man can surpass others by making just a small effort.” Work out, make money, form a posse, dare to have some sense, and you’ll thrive…..

    The man/woman stuff works at the level social engineers simply can’t get. Smart men can, with ease, take advantage of that. Smart.

  8. Svevlad says:

    I see a solution:

    1. relocate all the men to based countries
    2. do the USSR on the now fully female ones

    problem solved!

  9. El Dato says:

    Hollywood has not yet attempted to show how strong, independent black women were central to the success of the D-Day landings, but there is still time.

    “Sassing the SS to death!”

    It could be a followup to “La Cinquième Companie”.

    • LOL: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Bill Jones
  10. El Dato says:
    @AaronB

    Jewish conversos in Spain can teach us something about that.

    Ain’t no such thing in this modern world.

    There will woke-control AI everywhere. You will be like Winston Smith with thoughtcrime loudspeaker. Basically we are already at that point, but it will only get worse.

    No, this will have to be “solved” much earlier, possibly with extreme measures.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  11. AaronB says:
    @El Dato

    Most societies simply want public acquiescence. Even traditional religious societies didn’t really care what you did privately or what you thought so long as you publicly acquiesced.

    As long as you’re not an ideologue trying to change the world, you can do fine in almost any system.

    Once you shift from trying to change the outside world towards changing your own attitude, it isn’t really important what society is like, barring some extreme situations – which occur regularly whether we like it or not anyways.

    Freedom is internal, not external.

  12. We don’t have patriarchy because mean men want to oppress women. It arose and sustained itself in Hayekian fashion, spontaneously, organically, in many societies across the centuries, and without any central planning to impose it, because it works to keep the human species in business in a harsh and dangerous world.

    I’ve speculated elsewhere that the renewed hostility in the United States towards the economically marginal role of slavery in building the country derives in part from White Chad Envy. Many of the white men who founded the United States owned slaves because they were high-testosterone badasses, and they usually had no trouble attracting white women who wanted to marry them and bear their children. The rise of sexually evicted white men called incels reflects the fact that our modern Woke ideology demonizes the kinds of male behaviors which made their forefathers successful. If a white incel in our society lived in an alternate society where he could buy some land and a few Negroes to make his farm productive, he would discover that some fertile white women mysteriously view him as plausible husband material.

  13. The author has given a good overview, but I think his historical parallels are wrong. Simply because now we have a situation without precedent in all human history.

    We, for instance, know that stronger societies prevailed over weaker, frequently with a disastrous results for the conquered. But now, the most powerful societies in the world, European & Europe-derived, plus east Asian, are letting primitive weaklings to undermine their own social fabric & the very future (except, of course, Asians).

    In the case of Europe after migrations, regeneration was possible because all groups belonged to, essentially, the same race/genotype/phenotype & culture – whites. On the other hand, if you let completely different races into your own home to become either significant or, even worse, socially dominant- there is no possibility of recovery or regeneration.

    So, to sum it:

    * Africans are a failed race/population which cannot do anything. They can only, due to suicidal stupidity of their hosts, bring anyone near them down. With them, the human species may be as well dead or non-existent

    * with Muslims you got a backward historical civilization which had been successful only when it was not “Islamic” enough & when it shone with borrowed light. Otherwise, Islamic populations, “browns”, can only tarry on for some time. They are aliens to progress. They may retain elements of civilized life, but on a regional level & basically, stagnant.

    * with Hindu Indians, I suspect they are not too dissimilar to Islam world-wide (taboos, rituals, all the dumb stuff…)

    * only non-Western whites & east Asians have a potential for further development.

    But, the prerequisite for that, or for Western regeneration is getting rid of universal human rights & UN founding principles. In other words, leading ideas of Western world (and higher layers of other civilizations) should be dismissed. Or, if not outright, a partial collapse of affluent Western societies will have created a vacuum where non-Western powers (East Asia, perhaps Russia etc.) will be free to ignore equalist ideology & behave as it does not apply to them.

    And, at least 3-6 billions of humans will simply die off, because they cannot provide for themselves.

    Let’s not harbor illusions that a happy end is somehow inevitable. American Indians, from both Americas, show that an entire race can almost vanish, and their culture(s) even more.

    Of course, I’m not a fortune teller. I don’t know what’s going to be. But, if you lose the will to live, prosper & dominate- you’re doomed. This, of course, applies to non-modified homo sapiens. In that case, I’d say the ruling & vital world would be Euro-Asian north & the rest will be either dead or dying.

    In other scenarios (WW 3, modified humans,..)- it is too speculative.

  14. @Justvisiting

    Capital vs Labor unites the many against the few. All against all is Capital’s wet dream. That’s where we are today by Capital’s design. While the workers fight among themselves the Capitalists become Oligarchs and then Feudal Lords. Capitalism can be an engine for prosperity when Capitalists are restrained by labor law, antitrust law, immigration law, and tax law. A Libertarian’s nightmare. Yet regulation is good for competition (small business) and pulls Capital down and Labor up into a prosperous middle class that doesn’t need welfare.

    When unregulated Capitalism morphs into Feudalism the proles turn to Socialism. An even worse Libertarian nightmare. Sadly, regulated Capitalism requires honest and enlightened governance. The current regime is totally corrupt.

    Birth control (the pill) did more to empower women than the voting franchise. In good times a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. After the reset. After TSHTF. There will be hard times in real time. Men will again be needed even if not appreciated. And the reset will topple Imperial Washington affording men and women an opportunity to build something new.

    Nullification/Secession will be the way forward.
    Stop the hate. Separate.

  15. Feminism is now about revenge. Why we’re seeing these feral LiBERal ( likely single…) mommies bring their sons to Drag Queen Story Hour and Ghey Parades…

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  16. peterAUS says:
    @advancedatheist

    …it works to keep the human species in business in a harsh and dangerous world..

    Yes.
    The type of world that does not exist, anymore, in the West. Especially from the upper-middle-class up.
    It still does in the rest of the world.

    The West can afford the luxury of its current religion.
    For now.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  17. peterAUS says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Pretty much.

    Having said that, not quite. Trump election and Brexit do show something else.

    I am sure, if free speech really existed in the West, let alone no related laws (like those in Germany, for example), we’d see the real picture about what the most of Whites in the West really think and feel.

    There is one group that does benefit from all this but even they are, I feel, starting to get uncomfortable.

    There is a peculiar dynamics in all this, and can go any way from here.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
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  18. @Svevlad

    do the USSR on the now fully female ones

    USSR was extremely masculine society.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  19. More like brat daughters.

  20. @peterAUS

    Our good times won’t last much longer. The blackouts in California, formerly the most materially developed place on the planet, come right off the graph of Richard C. Duncan’s Olduvai Theory.

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  21. AaronB says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    USSR was extremely masculine society

    Which is why it fell. The excessively strong, rigid, and unbending cannot adapt and becomes brittle.

  22. Steve2 says:

    there’s no helping people who are too dishonest or cowardly to see what is in front of their own nose.

    Insert obvious jokes here.

  23. @AaronB

    Which is why it fell. The excessively strong, rigid, and unbending cannot adapt and becomes brittle.

    Modern Russia, once one discounts office plankton from large urban centers, is a also, and even more so than USSR, a masculine society. Last time I checked Russian civilization is in its second millennium of existence. But your profundity on the collapse of the USSR due to masculinity is duly noted.

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  24. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ann Coulter would be more persuasive if she behaved in a manner consistent with her writing; specifically, getting married and having children. It would have been a benefit to her worldview and her writing.

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  25. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I did know she’s not been married and has no children, Mike, but never really kept up with her personal life. All I know is that she’d batting about a .980 as far as writing the truth (as I see it). That 2% is Affirmative Action and a column or 2 about the pot.

    I guess her having children would make her writing even better though. Michelle Malkin does have this knowledge and she gets quite a few columns about the Big-Ed BS out of it.

    • Disagree: Peter Harris
  26. AaronB says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Russian culture has always been seen as having feminine qualities, as being more tilted towards the feminine East, to be more in tune with emotion, soul, and spirit, all feminine qualities. Russian men are noticeably softer and sweeter than Western men – when they are not low level brutes.

    Paradoxically, this actually means men are freer to be masculine. In Asia too, the whole atmosphere is more feminine, but masculine qualities are respected, and men are not dominated by women.

    In the extremely masculine West, where control of nature, technology and logic are privileged over feminine intuition, emotion, and soul, that the women are masculine and dominate the men.

    Paradoxically, when you integrate the feminine, you can be masculine. When you suppress the feminine, your masculinity becomes its opposite.

    Its an old law – that side of nature you seek to suppress comes back with a vengeance. Anything pushed to am extreme become a its opposite.

  27. @WorkingClass

    Birth control (the pill) did more to empower women than the voting franchise.

    Good point, there.

    In good times a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. After the reset. After TSHTF. There will be hard times in real time. Men will again be needed even if not appreciated.

    I think “appreciated” comes with it. I turn it over to Bob Seger and his Silver Bullet Band.

    “And when the black night falls upon you,
    you’ll find it easy to be kind.”

  28. @Justvisiting

    You forgot racial minorities vs. Jews?

  29. @advancedatheist

    The rise of sexually evicted white men called incels reflects the fact that our modern Woke ideology demonizes the kinds of male behaviors which made their forefathers successful.

    I’ll assume you mean the rise in the numbers of sexually-evicted incels, because they ain’t rising in the society. C’mon, Advanced, they’re incels specifically because they don’t display male behaviors. Men and boys that want to display the traits of grown men go ahead and

    do it

    , they don’t sit in the basement with a shitty job and a MGTOW outlook.

    Boys need to train their eyes toward blue-collar pursuits, electrical, construction, the old, manly and desperately-needed pursuits. There’s no White Collar, ez-desk option for 85% of the boys in the society with a degree outside of STEM or a REALLY shit-hot law degree and a top-flight mind, period. And even a few of those get left behind because of EEOC regs/50-50 ratios and of course, tyrannical feminists at HR and sooner or later, a Hillary (or HILLARY) in the White House. Face it, you go where the privilege is, it’s the human condition. Proof of this is there are FAR more boys-girl trannies than the reverse. We KNOW why, that’s where the privilege is, the girls.

    As evidence to how tyrannical is the girlie-man trannie-bomb, even Chelsea Clinton, daughter of a lesbian Super-Feminist First Lady-Ultra-Libber Politician, against her mother’s instincts, declared that MALE>Female trannies are perfectly OK to go steal the female-with-a-vagina fruits of TitleIX. That was specifically set up for vaginas with no small say-so from the likes of Hillary. Now Chelsea says to the boys, “Go steal the fruits of my mother’s life’s work”. It’s an unbelievable turn of events, to me anyway. If Hillary isn’t pissed at her daughter for that, she’s drunker than I though. Chelsea handed right back to men what Hillary won for women. It’s a sea-change in sexual politics, I don’t think it’s quite been noticed yet. Codified, it’s the end of biological women in sports.

    Those nerdie-boys finally got even with the MALE athletes who wouldn’t play baseball with them, instead in college, they’re displacing women. Since they couldn’t BEAT the women, or even co-exist with them, the BECAME them. Whatever divides feminism, works for me. We’re about to see what Feminism, Inc does with this, those strong feminists. Because TRANNIES fight back.

    Parents of kids with marginal academic intellect and who are a bit aimless need to point them away from college and toward the trades, civil, electrical, water, construction. They’re going to have to learn how to work hard again. Believe you me, the women aren’t clamoring for 50% of the jobs in water, electrical or construction. The push to put women INTO construction isn’t going so well. First sign of cold, heat or heavy lifting, I hear the girls sign out of the programs and never come back.

    Women only wanted the easy work. Look at them, plump, tatted, pierced with all their day-glo hair, angry, having displaced the men, bitching that the men have no money.

  30. @Achmed E. Newman

    There’s talking the talk and then there is walking the walk. Actions speak louder than words. Coulter would be more convincing is she herself participated in making this country a better place where it matters most: and that is contributing to the future of the nation with children. I don’t follow her personal life either, but knowing she is/isn’t married and has kids is not some invasion of privacy, like I’m snooping her browser history.

    It’s the same red flag with Gabbard, or the Fox News “conservative” bimbo brigade – why aren’t these women starting families? Whether it’s narcissism or careerism, someone who isn’t willing to put their money where their mouth is loses credibility IMO.

  31. @Jim Christian

    Great rant, Mr. Christian*. There’s a brand new post on Peak Stupidity on this very thing, but yours, especially the Clinton mother/daughter catfight aspect, beats hell out of it. May I post part of this (without any editing in the middle, of course)?

    BTW, let’s hope we don’t ever have to start addressing you “Sister Christian” on this forum. (no insult intended, just got the song in my head, and the joke is apropos)

  32. @MikeatMikedotMike

    There’s talking the talk and then there is walking the walk. Actions speak louder than words.

    I don’t argue with that in general, Mike. Miss Coulter is ONE lady though, and IMO, she’s not there on TV or (with a picture) up on the column each week to set an example. As for the politicians, it’s another story. Peak Stupidity’s post from a couple years back on Childless European Leaders makes your point on this exactly.

    Let me put it this way: If Miss Coulter wrote a column read by millions of women (I would guess she is mostly read by men) and even 10,000 of them got a slight clue about the numbers involved in the immigration invasion, just for example, that would do a lot more good than her having 3 children.

    As I wrote you before though, having a family, as Michelle Malkin does, would be bound to give her insights that would help spread more conservative ideas. I didn’t mention it specifically last comment, but Mrs. Malkin writes about the Orwellian computer-tech bullshit that goes on in even elementary schools. It has made her a libertarian, while I could say Ann Coulter is a self-made libertarian.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  33. I’m just a dumb, lifelong farm girl. Here’s my observation. Weak critters usually lead to nature culling its herd. Millennial men strike me as just that. Today’s women can’t even successfully mother their own children, let alone all of humanity. Living off the achievements of your ancestors just won’t cut it when nature’s wrath gets raging. Seems to me Mama Nature is just doing that with the solar minimal, magnetic pole shifting, and ring of fire bouncing around. My guess is the woke feminist reign of terror should end in the next few decades with the great human cull. Also my bet is on the Amish inheriting the earth rather than AI.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  34. Gunnr_lp says: • Website

    For a long time, those who believe in the ‘hidden hand’ have wrote and spoke about a shrouded ‘King of the World’. After centuries, the truth is making its way into the light…

    It wasn’t a ‘king’ which has led the world to its debasement, but a ‘queen’…and her male minion slaves were all too happy to acquiesce to her dominance which they could not resist. She promised them ‘power’, riches, fame, sex…all earthly pleasures. And they willingly accepted.

    This has been the great secret of the ages. Only now have the unwitting subjects begun to recognize the effects.

  35. @AaronB

    Russian culture has always been seen as having feminine qualities, as being more tilted towards the feminine East, to be more in tune with emotion, soul, and spirit, all feminine qualities. Russian men are noticeably softer and sweeter than Western men – when they are not low level brutes.

    I am not sure I follow you. But Russian history over millennium was and is colored by the warfare, which played a crucial influence in shaping Russian men’s cultural phenotype. Russia remains, as she always was, a very militarized (I consider it to be a very healthy feature) society. Well, with the exception, as I already stated, of narrow strata of office plankton, and even there a significant minority of exceptions exists. So, I am not sure what is so feminine in warfare but even today in Russia a saying–if you didn’t serve (in military), you are not a real man–is a very popular, however wrong, one. It also explains Russian aversion to homosexuality (and other gender exploits) and appreciation of real femininity.

    • Replies: @NoH1B
  36. Durocher has made a case as to why sex differences exist. But “As we have become comfortable, so our societies and culture have become feminized and infantilized.”

    That’s not sufficient as an explanation for this disruption. The “decline of men” is not just part of a natural evolution in civilization. It is also a rational process of improving the hiding the real power, especially in the face of the Gutenberg press-level threat from the internet.

    In the U.S., the duopoly of the Republican (individual power) and Democratic (group power) parties has, until the last several years, been a stable facade. The establishment managed the two as the most natural (least difficult) sides to maintain: People (mostly unconsciously) sort themselves into which type of basic human power of the two is most important to assert, while consciously believing only that they are on the Good/Right side against Evil/Wrong, instead of recognizing that each is a fundamental facet of human power.

    Feminization is upsetting this. But the author doesn’t explain its long-term purpose in the revised West, which is now losing its (ostensible) public politics, which has relied on public debate, that is, individuals asserting themselves.

    By upsetting the balance now so the feminist, group-power side is not only visibly heavier but also the only acceptable side, the new components of the establishment want to hide manifestations of individual power on society completely “behind the curtain”. Individual power, when expressed in public and matching its exercise on society, is denigrated so that no one dares express it. Only the secretly “elected”, who remain faceless, may now exert this power. The mere consciousness of this fact is not permitted. Faceless power has always existed, of course, but going forward, it will not even be questioned.

    Today, when a movement takes hold and pushes its demands (such as nature-free sex assertions discussed above), every ostensible “power”, such as a company board of directors, or a college administrator, or a prominent politician, folds like a house of cards. No individual may stand on principle against the tide. So it’s not about deciding which principles are correct — it’s about being able to express contrarian thoughts at all in the public sphere. Only groupthink is acceptable in a world that values only group-level power.

    Notable current U.S. exceptions of course are Donald Trump and Tulsi Gabbard, who are relentlessly pilloried as morally suspect, rather than at least respected for holding fast on principles.

  37. Durocher has made a case as to why sex differences exist. But “As we have become comfortable, so our societies and culture have become feminized and infantilized.”

    That’s not sufficient as an explanation for this disruption. The “decline of men” is not just part of a natural evolution in civilization. It is also a rational process of improving the hiding the real power, especially in the face of the Gutenberg press-level threat from the internet.

    In the U.S., the duopoly of the Republican (individual power) and Democratic (group power) parties has, until the last several years, been a stable facade. The establishment managed the two as the most natural (least difficult) sides to maintain: People (mostly unconsciously) sort themselves into which type of basic human power of the two is most important to assert, while consciously believing only that they are on the Good/Right side against Evil/Wrong, instead of recognizing that each is a fundamental facet of human power.

    Feminization is upsetting this. But the author doesn’t explain its long-term purpose in the revised West, which is now losing its (ostensible) public politics, which has relied on public debate, that is, individuals asserting themselves.

    By upsetting the balance now so the feminist, group-power side is not only visibly heavier but also the only acceptable side, the new components of the establishment want to hide manifestations of individual power on society completely “behind the curtain”. Individual power, when expressed in public and matching its exercise on society, is denigrated so that no one dares express it. Only the secretly “elected”, who remain faceless, may now exert this power. The mere consciousness of this fact is not permitted. Faceless power has always existed, of course, but going forward, it will not even be questioned.

    Today, when a movement takes hold and pushes its demands (such as nature-free sex assertions discussed above), every ostensible “power”, such as a company board of directors, or a college administrator, or a prominent politician, folds like a house of cards. No individual may stand on principle against the tide. So it’s not about deciding which principles are correct — it’s about being able to express contrarian thoughts at all in the public sphere. Only groupthink is acceptable in a world that values only group-level power.

    Notable current U.S. exceptions of course are Donald Trump and Tulsi Gabbard, who are relentlessly pilloried as morally suspect, rather than at least respected for holding fast on principles.

  38. Hollywood has not yet attempted to show how strong, independent black women were central to the success of the D-Day landings, but there is still time.

    Hey, Wonder Woman, arguably White but definitely female, broke the stalemate on the Western front in WW1. I guess they’ll cast Leslie Jones to play the decisive role in WW2.

  39. @Achmed E. Newman

    Great rant, Mr. Christian*. There’s a brand new post on Peak Stupidity on this very thing, but yours, especially the Clinton mother/daughter catfight aspect, beats hell out of it. May I post part of this (without any editing in the middle, of course)?

    You can print it on toilet paper and I’ll autograph the wrapper, a dime a sign. People copy my stuff all the time. I’ll finally make something off it and wouldn’t that be Da Bomb?

  40. @Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t think this situation of the weaker dominating the strong is unprecedented. How did Christians conquer the Roman Empire? Their strategy consisted of playing the role of victims and becoming martyrs to their cause. They didn’t take up arms or participate in revolutions. But of course, the outcome now is likely to be totally different, and a third party, I.e. neither the former masters nor the former victims, may take advantage of the fall of Western civilization as we know it.

    • Replies: @freedom-cat
  41. @Jim Christian

    Excellent advice, Jim! I have a 30-something male relative who is a waiter and is taking some political science courses at a community college. (He worked as a volunteer for the Sanders campaign in 2016, but I don’t know what he’s doing now.) I wish I could drum into his brain that there’s no civil service office job for him out there and his best bet is to learn a trade. I’d also tell him to emigrate to Poland if he has any capacity for language learning.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @RadicalCenter
    , @JackOH
  42. Mr. Grey says:

    The idea that feminine pursuits are less necessary and honorable, or that women have historically been powerless, is vulgar feminist slander against womankind.

    This is very true. It’s ironic that feminists worship masculine traits and have contempt for feminine ones. They want to paint an image of women being victims for the last 5,000 years. I think modern technology has made traditional women’s work so easy we have forgotten how important it once was. I enjoy this YouTube channel, ‘Townsend’s’. It’s about life in the 18th century America. The guy makes a lot of recipes from 18th century cookbooks. He also shows other aspects of life, such as making and washing clothes. We take cooking and laundry for granted today, but it was a real art back then, you had to practically be a chemist to wash clothes- especially delicate, expensive clothing. Maybe Hollywood taught us to look down on homemaking. In the Westerns the gunslingers roamed around the prairie fighting each other, and the food and clothing somehow took care of itself. Men were the head of the household, but if women weren’t happy nothing would get done.

    • Replies: @awry
  43. @Achmed E. Newman

    There’s a brand new post on Peak Stupidity on this very thing, but yours, especially the Clinton mother/daughter catfight aspect,

    Oh yeah, Achmed, almost forgot about this part, I guess you would have to have had a mother and her two daughters in your life to see the strife. By my judgement, not many daughters love their mothers these days. It was so odd to see Hillary’s yap, steam coming out her ears while her daughter hands over the keys to TitleIX to the trannies they ALL mocked not ten years ago.

    Title IX was about taking away from men. And the men are taking it back. I never thought feminists would go down so easy on this. The ultimate appropriation of privilege for cash and prizes. Ladies’ PGA Tour golf is next.

    Peace, if you can find it, heh..

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  44. Why do people keep asserting the following:

    Western nations have been in headlong decline and Westerners themselves will be minorities in their own historic homelands within a few decades.

    What makes anyone think, in places like the UK, this is going to take “decades” any more than it will in Texas or Florida? Or “decades” in France? More like, a decade at least by any meaningful demographic (those under the age of say, 65).

    Also, re: HR departments. I suspect you will continue to see a trend of whites (men and women), identifying as Hispanic, particularly with the growth of DNA testing companies that, while not required or necessarily evidentiary (although they can be), demonstrate that a significant portion of people of Celtic ancestry, are in fact Iberian, and according to the government, federal and most states, “Spanish culture or origin” counts as Hispanic.

  45. Alden says:
    @Justvisiting

    In some ways it already is. First male athletes claiming to be women and destroying lesbian college and professional sports. Ha ha serves them right.

    Now it’s men claiming to be women whining about monthly hygiene products. There was a story this weekend about mire and more young men wearing make up. Except for nail polish, women wearing make up has been declining for years. Could be that’s a plot by make up companies to compensate for declining make up sales among women by marketing it to men.

    100 years ago the cigarette companies successfully convinced women it was cool and sophisticated to smoke. Why not do the same with men and make up.

    Or it could just be a deep dark plot by TPTB to overturn the women’s supremacy movement and get back to male rule.

    It was TPTB organized by the Ford and Rockefeller foundations that made women Supreme for a few decades. Could be TPTB want even the ordinary average men back in power.

    Who knows what evil lurks in the vicious center of TPTB??

    There might be a Supreme Court finding that all sexes are equal soon. Therefore an order that there be no discrimination because of sex gender identity.

    Therefore, men and women can again compete for college placement, jobs, contracts equally.

    Those findings and orders might be followed by Supreme Court findings that no one can discriminate according to race creed or color. And then what we’ve all been hoping for since 1968, an order that the 14th amendment applied to everyone including White men.

    There’s something behind all this gender bending. Might be money for make up companies. Might be even Democrat office holders are sick and tired of the standard incompetent snarling black women government.
    workers

    I don’t know who’s behind it or the motive. I’m just enjoying the feminazis and lesbians get what they deserve.

    • Replies: @Panafancypants
  46. PPB says:
    @AaronB

    Although resistance to a culturally-dominant agenda from its opposite pole can easily fail due to the “running up against a brick wall” dynamic as well as from the general tendency of opposites to reinforce each other, the alt-right’s right resistance to “wokeness” could also be exploited as a diversionary tactic that would enhance the ability of covert “insiders” to steer the wokeness paradigm in a healthier direction. (I’d never thought of Conversos in both senses of the term— that is, of outward converts to another religion, as well as eventual convertors of the religion that they had outwardly adopted, but of course such reciprocity only stands to reason).

    On another note, if we look at wokeness as a superficial, fragmented and unconsciously pantomimed caricature of a deeper current of universal values, then whenever has such a phenomenon had any enduring reality beyond that of another passing fashion eventually dissolved by the expression of its own internal contradictions and/or evaporated by its sheer insubstantiality? Yet, in accordance with your own basic argument, one could say that this superficiality and lack of substance would render the whole “wokeness” phenomenon that much more vulnerable to infiltration by the deeper set of values that it lamely and distortedly mimics, and thereby allow itself to be transmuted into a more wholesome expression of itself.

    Time will tell …

  47. Alden says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Government work is strictly No White Men Need Apply. He should legally change his surname to a common Hispanic one.

    The trade unions are as much under the affirmative action gestapo as other employers. But they’ve been permitted to keep the math engineering mechanical spatial relations entrance tests because the Judges don’t want their courthouses bursting into flames due to faulty wiring or collapsing due to incompetent design and workmanship.

  48. Alden says:
    @Jim Christian

    I’m just loving it after all the hatred and harassment from feminazis I endured for being married, over populating Mother Earth with evil blue eyed children, and homeowner.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @utu
  49. @Alden

    I’m just loving it after all the hatred and harassment from feminazis I endured for being married, over populating Mother Earth with evil blue eyed children, and homeowner.

    The old Jewish feminists first mocked, then weaponized trannies, gays and the entire Alphabet Soup of Sexual Depravity against straight White men in their power grabs. And here White feminist women are, swimming in privilege and next up on the chopping block. Even depraved Lesbian Congressional Rep Katie Hill had to resign this morning for her lesbian dalliance with a girl in the office.

    And so here we are, the weapons they deployed, circling around and biting White women and girls in the ass all over the society. Hilarious, no?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  50. @Bardon Kaldian

    “Africans are failed race”

    I’d say that they are well adapted to their environment; to call them a failed race because they are not like you is just prejudice. Africa’s main problem is western imperialism. That is the idea that African nations should aspire to become imitations of western society because westerners imagine themselves to be superior.

  51. UmHello says:

    It’s silly guys, give it up and enter the 20th century! The rest of the world has already entered the 21st. Declining sperm count does not equal “feminization” and neither the feminist movement, nor women in general, have anything to do with it. It’s the CHEMICALS IN YOUR FOOD, FELLAS.

    Progressive women have been at the forefront of the environmental movement for decades now. We don’t want your sperm count to be depressed or your cancer rate to be elevated, we want you men, and ourselves, to have clean, healthful, uncontaminated food to eat and clean water and clean air. And when we say so, we want our voices to be heard and our concerns to be valued, not ignored because we are women! How hard is that?

    The guy who wrote this 1800’s rant ought to know that he’s pushing a pile of pseudoscience, it’s all been refuted time and again. Who am I to say so? A woman, a feminist, in possession of a Master of Science degree (Molecular Biology), a happy hiker and dog owner and spear fisher and reggae singer!

    Why not? A feminist is not an ogress, we are women and men who respect women and defend the right of each woman to have equal opportunities, equal choices, equal pay, equal credit, equal access. All else follows, education, financial opportunity, reproductive choice, dignity, happiness. My partner is a man, he is far from “feminized”, LOL. Men, including lower income men, immigrant men, black men in the USA, disabled men, white men, ALL MEN, are supposed to have access to all these things too! What’s wrong with that? It seems like the only people unhappy about feminism are sexists who want to degrade, limit, and disrespect women and the men who support gender equality.

  52. Great article Leo. The Feminization of the West is all part and parcel of the Cultural Marxist endgame. Classic Marxism with a somewhat unified proletariat never ended well. Cultural Marxism and disparate identity groups will have a worse ending. Once the scapegoat White race is out of the way, expect a battle royal/winner take all fight to the finish. Can any of the Identity groups even tolerate another? Blacks and Puerto Ricans? Blacks and Chicanos? Muslims and LGBTQ? Where do feminists fit in? Will Black women side with White women or their race? Will Muslims accept the feminist paradigm of gender relations? Of course the driving force of Identity politics, globalism, and eradicating Christianity, Western culture, and the patriarchal order is the Jewish elite. Jews have the intelligence and fiscal resources to rule the New World Order. Yet they lack demographic numbers and the trust of the disparate groups. The Devil betrays not rewards. The White race and Christianity will survive in Russia and parts of Eastern Europe. Nevertheless, it will be an enclave, not a dominant empire. Nature abhors a vacuum. Step right in China.

  53. Dumbo says:

    I don’t think a feminized society can last for very long, it’s just play-acting, really. When things get tough, the strong empowered women will run for men to help them.

    Also, I don’t think that society in general has necessarily “less masculine” men than before. Well maybe compared to Sparta or other hyper-masculine societies. But in general, most men are just average. And you always had some men who were the warriors, some who were the priests, some who were the engineers, some who were the artists, etc.

    About trannies or transgenders, I am not sure what to make of that. As Steve Sailer observed, it is not feminized men who become transgender (they are usually content to be prostitute transvestites or drag queens), but those who “convert” are usually masculine men who were married and have several kids and then at middle age they decide to “change sex”. Such as Bruce Jenner, or this one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Morris

    I don’t know what’s the explanation for that.

  54. anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old and grumpy

    I see the problem as more of a consequence of female liberation than anything else. Female liberation is just imposing emasculation on men.

    • Replies: @Kiel
  55. Wally says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    Laughable Communist nonsense.

    And what “imperialism” is that?

    It’s Africans that ‘aspire to become western’, as proven by their determination to get out of their African sh-tholes.

    • Agree: Dannyboy, brandybranch
    • Troll: Iris
  56. PPB says:
    @UmHello

    What you are describing (Hello in return) is healthy feminism. For better or worse, what feminism, shares with a host of other essentially valuable and legitimate movements, is a tendency to become distorted by fringe elements whose agendas are either a bit blurred, narrowly partisan or antagonistic, or even downright delusional and cockeyed. Not that feminsm in its pure meaning should have to be poisoned by association with those elements, but a lot of people (mostly men, I suppose) conflate the two, especially when their resentment (towards whatever) needs a broad and convenient target. For a parallel example, see many of the simplistically derogatory comments regarding Judaism and Jews on this and other similar forums.

  57. @Diversity Heretic

    You’re right with the advice to the younger guy.

    Learn some productive physical trade that’s likely to stay in demand, already has a shortage of younger qualified people, and may be harder to automate away in the nearer future than some other jobs:

    Skilled trades such as welder, plumber, electrician, and auto mechanic come to mind.

    Would’ve said “truck driver” in the past, but long-haul trucking may be largely automated in the not-distant future. Perhaps short-haul trucking is a good choice on the premise that safe local self-driving trucks won’t be feasible nearly as soon as safe long-haul self-driving / almost-self-driving trucks.

    • Replies: @Poco
  58. @kerdasi amaq

    “Africa’s main problem is western imperialism.”

    Oh, give it up.

    Europeans were nowhere in Africa in 1300. Islam was dominating Africa from 800 until 1600-1800 when Europeans managed to finally get the upper hand.

    What were blacks doing before European contact exactly? Building vast citadels? Even the isolated Mayans and Aztecs managed to produce 100x the culture without the advantage of contact with advanced civilizations.

    Currently China is the big problem for African sovereignty, not Europeans.

  59. @Achmed E. Newman

    “Let me put it this way: If Miss Coulter wrote a column read by millions of women (I would guess she is mostly read by men) and even 10,000 of them got a slight clue about the numbers involved in the immigration invasion, just for example, that would do a lot more good than her having 3 children. ”

    So then imagine if she were able to tie her experiences in raising 3 children into her writing, how many more women she might have had reading her columns all along. 🙂

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  60. @kerdasi amaq

    “I’d say that they are well adapted to their environment; ”

    So was the Dodo. But its environment still saw fit to relieve it of its existence.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  61. Dumbo says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Women tend to go along with the majority discourse, so, I don’t think that Ann Coulter having had children would affect things much one way or another among the majority with women who are liberal because that is what is expected of them.

    And with kids she certainly would have had less time to write.

    Anyway, she’s clearly a very intelligent woman and so, it is sort of normal or expected that the smartest women have less children.

    I prefer her to Michelle Malkin, I haven’t read Malkin in a long time, but she strikes me as a very boring Republican-type with hardly any original thought.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  62. @Maria Elisa

    Christianity became sanctioned and approved by Emperor Constantine. Christianity never conquered the Roman empire.

    • Replies: @Maria Elisa
  63. @AaronB

    I see it a bit more conspiratorially. The USSR fell because International Capital withdrew its support, particularly after most Russian Jews had left for Israel or the USA. The old anti-Russian animus came back with a vengeance.

    • Agree: utu, Poco
  64. NoH1B says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Look at this

    Look at what Putin says at 5:55. He is on a historic visit to dagestan to have a feast with the militiamen who defeated the foreign CIA sponsored mercenaries that were sent to the region 19 years back.

    He meets with the veterans. He praises the courage and bravery of the men and the beauty of the women (both internal and external). Such a thing would be blasphemy in the ‘gender fluid’ west of today. That is a beautiful healthy society while the west is collapsing culturally

  65. @UmHello

    Typical gaslighting and motte-and-bailey fallacies from a leftist or one of their useful idiots. It’s how we got into our present societal chaos and insanity over the last 171 years: ‘Oh we just want fairness, you couldn’t possibly be against that, doesn’t that sound ok?’ Then afterwards, step-by-step comes the deluge of power-mad feminazis demanding superiority over men in everything large and small.

    It’s long past time to see through such ploys… but MPAI, and Western Civilization is now past saving.

  66. @UmHello

    I strongly recommend that every man who still has some cojones, see the movie ‘The Wicker Man’ (2006). You will never look at women the same, and you will certainly never place them on any kind of pedestal ever again. In short, you will finally, realistically see them for what they are if allowed to gain power without men as leaders, in short conniving witches who will drag society down into mindless totalitarianism.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @dcite
  67. Rahan says:

    Sometimes I think that Europe needs a basic minimum of African and Arab thugs as a sort of immune system stimulant, to keep reminding the Eloi how the world really works.

    It’s just that overdoing the vaccination can kill the whole organism. Or make it autistic.

    Likewise with the (((Fellow White People)))–those are perhaps the “gut bacteria” of the social organism. When in their place and functioning the way they’re supposed to–everybody wins. But if the gut bacteria spreads outside its natural home–toxic reactions begin.

    Once Germany, France, and Italy wake up for real, and push the overtone window’s boundaries back into normality, they should perhaps introduce some form of the draft, and send the young men for half a year into Africa and Asia to *help build stuff* or what have you. Once back home, these young men will never take stuff for granted again, and will do what they have to in order to keep Europe safe and functional.

  68. @Jim Christian

    As I wrote in my blogpost, the feminists, are, in the words of George Clooney in Oh Brother, where Art Thou?, a TIGHT SPOT. If they complain about “ladies” with extra testosterone beating out other, real ladies, in sports, than that means something about men is better than women in physical activity. They can’t say that, cause, you know, Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs and shit …

    Thanks for the replies. I’ll probably steal that bit from you within a few days.

  69. @Monotonous Languor

    Hey, thanks for the recommendation, M.L. I just looked it up, and I’ve seen that and never could for the life of me remember the title and the whole story (I came upon it in progress on TV at some hotel). I’m gonna watch it – I get lots of recommendations here, like the book China Boy from Alden, I think.

  70. @Dumbo

    I disagree about Michelle Malkin and already mentioned her twice in this conversation. You should read her stuff on the Orwellian “TECH” crap being introduced to young children at schools. Yes, she obviously gets her information and motivation from having kids in the public schools.

  71. @NoH1B

    Look at this

    The video didn’t attach but I know what video are you talking about. Just one example–these are graffiti in Russia of heroes (real ones):

    or this:

    https://go2.imgsmail.ru/imgpreview?key=5d0f66835e060e7b&mb=imgdb_preview_1670

    or this:

    They are in many many places all over Russia. Enough also to recall 30, 000 people in Voronezh who came to Major Roman Filipov’s send-off.

    Tradition of self-sacrifice is there, it always was. In the end, this is a true measure of a man.

    • Replies: @NoH1B
  72. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    @Andrei Martyanov While I know about the more healthy aspects of Russia as a country, like being anti-homosexuality, pro-religious, and education being quite top-notch, it’s hardly a very healthy society.

    It has a high murder rate (though official stats point to a huge decrease since 2002), divorce, suicide, HIV/AIDS rate rates are some of the world’s highest, and so is pollution. On top of that, Putin is importing Central Asians and Chinese en masse to the country’s historically Slavic regions… presumably to fill in labor from the shrinking Slavic majority in Russia. Even so, economic growth is not restarting, largely because of enormous corruption, although you could argue Russia was never given the kind of markets China did, and also because it’s suffering from sanctions. Real incomes in the country continue to fall.

    It doesn’t seem like Russia is all that different to the West after all.

  73. NoH1B says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Oh just noticed that.

    Here is the video:

    Go to 5:50
    He says that, with such people, with such great kind and beautiful women, and brave and strong men, it’s leader cannot afford to be a pansy!!! . What a statesman he is. And when juxtaposed with western “leaders” across the (fake) aisle, I say LOL. Major LOL.

    “Post feminist” types would have a terrible meltdown when confronted by this man!!!

  74. An interesting and well written article but I think a key issue here is that liberals don’t actually want sex and race studied even though they claim to be on the side of science. Liberals want the public to believe that they have already studied these issues but online debates quickly reveal that egalitarians are not telling us everything.

    The men and women in this poll that support censorship are simply afraid of the results. The fact that women are more likely to support censorship is insignificant and not at all surprising. Single women are much more likely to be liberal and liberals are more likely to support censorship. Now in their minds most probably rationalize this as “stopping pseudoscience” but I suspect a large minority quietly suspects that there are differences and instinctively realizes the study of said differences cannot bode well for liberalism.

    As for that editorial picture I’d say they are lacking diversity. Did they not get the memo?

  75. @Anon

    though official stats point to a huge decrease since 2002

    In fact, it was truly dramatic and lead, among many other things, to a dranatic increase of life expectancy in Russia. Do not forget that many ills Russia inherited, including HIV epidemics etc, were from 1990s-early 2000s. The consumption of alcohol is also dramatically down.

    https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/russian-alcohol-consumption-down-43-leading-to-significant-decrease-in-mortality-rates

    I noticed your use of “official”, well the data is from World Health Organization for those who believe only Western “data” is “reliable”. Most Russian cities, not to speak of major urban centers, are very safe–much safer than any American or Western European city.

    Putin is importing Central Asians and Chinese en masse to the country’s historically Slavic regions…

    Utter BS. Propaganda spread by Western NGOs and “Russian” liberal “opposition”.

    It doesn’t seem like Russia is all that different to the West after all.

    Russia is dramatically different from modern (contemporary) West, or rather what remains of it. I do not consider contemporary West to be West anymore.

    • Replies: @Anon
  76. sayless says:
    @Jim Christian

    Sometimes I think male-to-female trans men are analogous to a horse refusing the fence.

    Becoming a functioning adult is an accomplishment for people of either sex, but becoming a man seems to require more of a conscious, sustained effort and to be more fraught. Whereas with girls the task is more to discover what kind of a woman they actually are. They mostly don’t worry whether they’re “real women” or not.

  77. good grief,

    So the fact that I jumped out planes, served in the marines, did x number of gritty military jobs, worked construction, led camping trips, engaged in high and low ropes courses played sports . . . is discounted as steps to and in manhood because I don’t have children and refuse to sleep around with every open woman within ear shot, and have yet to fall down down on any 0ccasion —-

    Nonsense.

    I think part of the problem here is that the supposed leaders have a warped sense of what it means to be a man.
    ————————–

    And in my view, that single women claiming to be christians who don’t have children and haven’t killed them in the womb and aren’t sleeping around are in fact setting a solid example of virtue —-

  78. ” In short, you will finally, realistically see them for what they are if allowed to gain power without men as leaders, in short conniving witches who will drag society down into mindless totalitarianism.”

    I would watch the original – far more powerful and centers on a man of actual virtue (a rare male perspective) . . . sure it avoids the feminist schtick, but also avoids the problems of plot plausibility.

    “Wicker Man” 1973 — all he has to do is sleep with any women to save his life – he has no idea what is in store, but he never compromises.

  79. Anon[200] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Since this is getting off-topic, this will be my last response on Russia in general, and also because I’m still responding as a generic anon. I do not feel like you answered me in good faith, so please do try to understand what I’m trying to say.

    Fact is, I’m exposed to the propaganda of both sides (West and Russia). In fact, I have a patriotic Russian father whom I agree with on the vast majority of things, including the long-standing demonization of Russia by the West. But he’s also a realist on the fact the country has a ton of serious problems, especially since both of us were ourselves exposed to them when we lived there. Let’s be clear, ALL sides want to demonize each other and praise themselves as the best. They’ll use true and false facts to support their narratives. In fact, I often defend Russia when they’re being attacked for some flimsy or ideological reason. I also know the West is pretty much wrong for antagonizing Russia so much, especially on the double standard with Kosovo and Crimea. So the suggestion in one of your responses that I’m somehow privy to and completely believing in “Western NGOs and Russian liberal opposition” talk just because they use some of the less pleasant facts to their advantage is null (and “official” was referring solely to official Russian stats on murder, not those from the West). Are you one of those who believes every Russian nationalist is CIA-funded, which justifies the government cracking down on those who complain about fact Chechens and other non-Slavic immigrants often attack, rape and kill Russians, Ukrainians, etc, in the country? Have you ever heard or read The Guardian or New York Times claiming Putin is wrong for supporting immigrants so much, or even so much as make fun of the fact the “strong conservative Putin” doesn’t mind doing the same as North America or Western Europe in this respect? I didn’t, but if they ever stated that, I’d like to be proven wrong, since my purpose is to debate and exchange knowledge, not argue. But I HAVE found some occasions of Putin criticizing the West for negating its own historic culture (and presumably population), and he’s right to do so.

    Why didn’t you respond with substance to my other points? Here is a Russian video on why immigration from ex-CIS countries (and as part of the Eurasian Union project) is good for the Russian economy. Where does the “Western bullshit” even come from? I’m truly puzzled. We’re also in agreement about murder (I’ll disagree that Russia as a whole is very safe, as murder rates are still high for Western standards, but there’s definitely been a lot of progress) and alcohol. Why is the West right about saying Russia has improved on crime, alcohol. and has a great education system, but is suddenly wrong in regards to high divorce, suicide, HIV/AIDS, pollution and immigration rates, things that are recognized officially in Russia? You didn’t say those are wrong outright, but you did imply it in your post.

    I try to always have a balanced view on things, so that means you have to take the good with the bad, which are the things that destroy any narrative (positive or negative) when presented. Life is never black and white, except probably in the very poorest countries out there. I want less ideology and more balance/data in your next response.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @utu
  80. Guillaume Durocher: “In the prehistoric tribe, a successful man would have spent much time physically exerting himself, hunting animals or warring against other men, as part of a coalition of men.

    […]

    As we have become comfortable, so our societies and culture have become feminized and infantilized.

    […]

    And so, it probably is not a coincidence that male authority has wholly collapsed at the same as peace has triumphed in our lands.”

    The entire article could have been shortened to just these three sentences. The changes Durocher deplores are due to civilization, and specifically, technological civilization since the Industrial Revolution. It seems to me beyond dispute that if that civilization collapses or is made to break down, the missing sexual dimorphism would instantly reappear. But for the right, with its love of technological “Progress”, and its self-depiction as a beleaguered defender of Western civilization, that prospect is intolerable. Such “conservatives” are possessed of an infantile desire to eat their cake and have it too; to enjoy their civilization, but without the changes it necessarily brings to sex roles, race relations, occupations, economics, culture, etc. Too bad, but it doesn’t work like that.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  81. @Achmed E. Newman

    You should read her stuff on the Orwellian “TECH” crap being introduced to young children at schools.

    Aren’t the kids of Google and Facebook and Microsoft lining up to have a chip shot into their mitts for access around the old campus instead of ID badges? That’s pretty Orwellian.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  82. @NoH1B

    He praises the courage and bravery of the men and the beauty of the women (both internal and external). Such a thing would be blasphemy in the ‘gender fluid’ west of today.

    The blobs-with-vaginas in our military are possessed of a beauty only valued by chubby-chasers.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  83. @Achmed E. Newman

    Achmed, you’re an engineer, no? Yes? What do you think of the ‘narrative collapse’ surrounding the female-designed pedestrian bridge at FIU? They’re trying to decide who to prosecute. Likely, no females. As soon as the bridge collapsed, so to did the narrative, per my comment after the article.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article236597488.html?utm_source=pushly&intcid=pushly_456396

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  84. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “In the prehistoric tribe, a successful man would have spent much time physically exerting himself, hunting animals or warring against other men, as part of a coalition of men.

    […]

    As we have become comfortable, so our societies and culture have become feminized and infantilized.

    […]

    And so, it probably is not a coincidence that male authority has wholly collapsed at the same as peace has triumphed in our lands.”

    The entire article could have been shortened to just these three sentences.

    Yep.

    Which, IMHO, creates a peculiar conundrum.

    It appears that then only way to re-assert that male thing (or whatever one calls it) is to make us uncomfortable. Make life hard, again.
    Would we really, I mean really, want it?
    I am not so sure about it.

    Let’s put in on a personal level:
    In daily life, my family (close and extended) and (a small number of ) friends/acquaintance don’t pay too much attention to me.Or…hehe…don’t need me much.
    BUT, as soon as something isn’t quite right, anything, they do. Ask questions, seek advice, help, whatever. Hehe…and it goes as long as the “discomfort” lasts. As soon as things go back to daily normal I am forgotten again. Till next time.
    Now…ego wise doesn’t feel nice. Still, I find all that much better than living in an environment where those uncomfortable things are daily occurrences.

    Makes sense?

    As for

    It seems to me beyond dispute that if that civilization collapses or is made to break down, the missing sexual dimorphism would instantly reappear.

    Or any SHTF scenario.

    On a personal level from car broken down in “diverse” part of the city, throught
    self-defense scenario, sickness, loss of job…just anything “uncomfortable” in the current paradigm. Long list there.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Test of time
  85. Maria Elisa: “I don’t think this situation of the weaker dominating the strong is unprecedented. How did Christians conquer the Roman Empire? Their strategy consisted of playing the role of victims and becoming martyrs to their cause.”

    Christianity conquered in the usual way, by killing and looting, burning and destroying all that went before. Their depredations made those of the Taliban look tame by comparison. The stories about Christian martyrs are mostly fiction written by the victors, the Church. Charles Martel and his grandson Charlemagne murdered tens of thousands of pagans who wouldn’t accept Christianity. If you want to know more, read what Gibbon has to say about the destruction wrought by the Christian takeover in his monumental History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire; or read Catherine Nixey’s The Darkening Age: The Christian Destruction of the Classical World; or if you can read German, a very scholarly account in ten volumes is available, Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums [Criminal History of Christianity], by Karlheinz Deschner. Some parts of Deschner’s magnum opus have been translated into English by my pal CT and are available at his site chechar.wordpress.com.

  86. peterAUS: “Would we really, I mean really, want it?
    I am not so sure about it.”

    That’s the question, isn’t it? So far, the consensus is against it. The loss of technological civilization is deemed too high a price to pay.

    The reason the right fails is that they aren’t willing to do what they have to do to succeed.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Miro23
  87. @Anon

    Why didn’t you respond with substance to my other points? Here is a Russian video on why immigration from ex-CIS countries (and as part of the Eurasian Union project) is good for the Russian economy

    I can also find a video from some “telegram”-channel and call it “Russian”. There is a very specific procedure for this “import” of which I know first hand and close and very personal: my sister in law married in 1980s an Uzbek guy and she is 100% Russian. It took her children who are for all intents and purposes Russian kids years to get Russian citizenship or PMZh . Only on November 1 this year the law becomes active allowing bearers of Russian language and culture to get second citizenship without many problems. It is specifically designed FOR Russians, as ethnic Russians or people of close Slav race. Work visas, green-cards (PMZh) and import are not the same. And no, Russia does not “import” Chinese. There are some Chinese seasonal workers and traders, especially at the far East but no “import”. In the end, there is Rossstat. You can find data on your own.

  88. peterAUS says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    We “spoke” about your, and mine, fundamental, angle here.

    Let’s reiterate mine:

    The loss of technological civilization is deemed too high a price to pay.

    Yes.

    The reason the right fails is that they aren’t willing to do what they have to do to succeed.

    Yes.
    In my book unwillingness to develop a (customized) version of National Socialism.

    The end result will be, most likely…say….as that “dance scene” in “The Matrix Reloaded”. Haha…”Zion” of all names.
    The (dancing) mass is easy to get. The “Council” too.The only…hehe…not so clear is the actual hierarchy of the Council there. Who, really, is the top dog there?

    Taking into account who made the movie, no wonder.

    On a sidenote I remember, when the movie came out, a reaction from an acquaintance of mine. A well adjusted young White male. It was funny, actually. He didn’t like the movie. I, carefully, probed. That scene…hehe…for some reason made him uncomfortable, but, of course, he couldn’t explain why. He really couldn’t.
    A perfect example when the gut feeling conflicts with the brainwashing…I mean socializing.

  89. @freedom-cat

    You are right. I meant that it conquered the hearts of people. And it got the approval of Constantine by conquering the heart of his mother, as far as I know.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  90. @UmHello

    Literally “B-b-but it’s THE CURRENT YEAR™, tho!!!”

    lol

  91. anarchyst says:

    The incessant push for multiculturalism, diversity, race-mixing, and government-forced denial of basic “freedom of association” has done MORE to isolate us whites (especially white males) from basic social and cultural norms than just about any other factor in life.

    Other races are not affected as they are encouraged to celebrate and look within their own cultures without having to put up with the government-enforced multiculturalism, diversity, and “equality” scams. Not so for white us males, who are expected to subordinate ourselves and give up our rightful place in American society.

    It is only us whites who are expected to sacrifice and downplay our social and cultural norms, and yes, even our existence. Us whites are constantly being reminded by those of other races and cultures that we are the source of most of the world’s troubles, being blamed for every problem that plagues humanity.

    It is a tragedy that so many white males, full of potential are taking their own lives, rather than put up with the destructive behavior by those of other races and cultures.

    Many of us white males look back fondly at pre-1965 America, when being an AMERICAN actually meant something, and those who wished to immigrate to America were required to adopt AMERICAN social and cultural norms and attitudes.

    To those of “the greatest generation” who pushed (false) civil-rights (for some) laws and statutes on us whites, destroying which was the best hope for the world and the destructive Hart Celler immigration act, thanks for NOTHING.

  92. anarchyst says:

    Us whites have been “conditioned” to accept the so-called “civil-rights (for some)” movement by the “tribe” from the mid 1950s on to the present. The “conditioning” started with the whole “civil-rights (for some)” movement which WAS spearheaded, run and controlled by leftist jews.

    I personally witnessed the shenanigans, distortions, and downright fraud of this whole “civil-rights (for some)” movement. I didn’t need to be “red pilled” to see where this jewish-run and controlled white dispossession was taking us.

    It took the use of federal troops to force us whites (at the point of bayonets) to succumb to this whole “civil-rights (for some)” mess. The use of federal troops to cow us whites into accepting our own destruction was a brilliant move by the jews. As us whites were and still are extremely law-abiding, it was easy to intimidate us. Actually, the use of federal troops for domestic law-enforcement purposes was (and still is) illegal…

    Hard times WILL flush out the liberal whites, as well as the environmentalists who care about bunnies and trees over human beings. When that day comes, let ’em starve…

    There are more of us whites who know what is going on than most realize. Us whites who are aware keep a low profile due to the volatile atmosphere that we live in. The threat of job loss, real violent threats to our families (that will not be addressed by “the powers that be”) and other considerations keep us from overtly expressing our true feelings on these matters, but the time will come. Us whites are very slow to act (and react), but when we do, look out…when “push comes to shove” we will take back our birthright…

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  93. anarchyst says:

    Let’s look at American “popular culture” and see how the white heterosexual American male is portrayed and treated. Today’s popular culture and the culture going back forty years or so has portrayed us white males as bumbling idiots, controlled and insulted by, a know-it-all domineering “wife”, with snotty and bratty children insulting him at every turn.

    Us adult white males are not looked upon as leaders and protectors of society and their families as they once were, but are relegated to the lowest level of humanity, to be used and abused by everyone else.

    It doesn’t stop there, Hollywood’s negative portrayal of white males, with minorities being in positions of power and responsibility, the (inferior) white male is always answering to a black superior, supervisor or leader, despite reality dictating otherwise.

    The “education system” is no better, being geared for females, who have totally feminized the system, relegating boys to the status of being dysfunctional, to be drugged and even ostracized, just for being boys.

    The condemnation of us white males is almost complete. It is long overdue to take back our rightful place in society. Start out by boycotting jew-owned and run Hollywood and letting program sponsors know why…

  94. @Jim Christian

    Yes, but I wouldn’t be in a position to really know enough to write about what happened in the Miami structural failure. But I just now read the article and saw your comment, Jim.

    I hadn’t followed this story, but what I read just now is that the big thing to prosecute on is the flat-out negligence that went on when nobody ordered the street closed down after cracks were found that were 40 x larger than allowed. There’s no brainpower involved there, just the integrity to tell people the road must be closed.

    Though your replier didn’t understand your point, yes, the narrative has been changed around – no more mention of the “female-designed structure”.

    BTW, I saw Robert Sumwalt’s name there. As head of the NTSB, he really gets around! (I read where they are not usually involved in State matters, but this was an exception.) The NTSB is one of the very few US Gov’t agencies that I respect.

  95. Kiel says:
    @anonymous

    I agree with your comment, but would like to add:

    “I see the problem as more of a consequence of female liberation than anything else. Female liberation is just imposing emasculation on men.”

    [. . . at the barrel of the gun held by the state.]

    I don’t blame young men for not ‘stepping-up’, whatever that means, usually defined by angry women and elderly beta males that delude themselves into thinking they were men – usually by having listened to the old hag they married and say things like,

    ‘If mama ain’t happy, ain’t no one happy.’

    The woman that says that isn’t a woman, she’s a controlling bitch, shouldn’t have had children, and her pussy-ass husband should have put her in her place back in a time when he could have – if for no other reason, than to protect his children from her BPD/Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

    You elderly fucks weren’t men, you were cucks – cucks to your wives and cucks to your government. No war was worth fighting in the 20th century, but you were too fucking stupid to see that (much less do something about it), weren’t you?

    [White] young men aren’t stepping-up because there’s nothing in it for them, beside some worn-out young skank that rode the cock carousal right up before she hit the wall, then wants to nail down a paycheck to allow the spawn of her polluted ovaries to kickout an anchor baby, and give her permanent access to half of everything the poor sucker makes for the next 25 years.

    Looking back, I don’t know how I escaped that fate myself. Thank god I’m in my 50’s, but I tell my 28 year old nephew, do what you want, but don’t give ’em your money, don’t get ’em pregnant, and don’t fucking marry them. If he wants kids, I’ve told him to get a surrogate with a ROCK SOLID contract, that marriage in the mind of women is a BUSINESS DEAL – don’t get screwed.

  96. @Justvisiting

    Exactly correct, JV. Each little wedge issue that they take up is bound to trigger one of their comrades across the circle. Let’s try to give them all the ammunition they need. Let’s hope for the rise of serial hair-pullers and an outbreak of drive by face-slappings.

  97. @MikeatMikedotMike

    “It’s the same red flag with Gabbard, or the Fox News “conservative” bimbo brigade ”

    I suspect that Gabbard has a dick, or wishes that she did.

  98. @Aaronb
    Which is why it fell. The excessively strong, rigid, and unbending cannot adapt and becomes brittle.

    The USSR collapsed because of economics. It became obvious that Marx’s plans were just a bit dunderheaded and the people were tired of its constant failures.

    If the USSR had adopted limited market economics then it would be around just like China and Vietnam. The collapse had nothing to do with too much masculinity. Yes they were stubborn to admit the flaws of Communism but that is not a male exclusive characteristic. Leftists in general aren’t very good at admitting when they are wrong. Female leftists are some of the most stubborn people in politics. In fact the far-left today is heavily female and extremely resistant to self-analysis.

    • Replies: @anonymous coward
  99. Looking back, I don’t know how I escaped that fate myself. Thank god I’m in my 50’s, but I tell my 28 year old nephew, do what you want, but don’t give ’em your money, don’t get ’em pregnant, and don’t fucking marry them. If he wants kids, I’ve told him to get a surrogate with a ROCK SOLID contract, that marriage in the mind of women is a BUSINESS DEAL – don’t get screwed.

    This attitude is way too negative and cynical.

    There are plenty of good women outside of the cities.

    Promoting a negative attitude isn’t helping anyone. Everyone in my neighborhood is happily married but I’m sure you don’t even think that is possible.

    • Replies: @Kiel
  100. Anonymous[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Muh, muh Asians!!! What would we do without them?

  101. utu says:
    @Alden

    “evil blue eyed children”

    The destruction of the “evil blue eyed children” was preprogrammed in 1950s:

  102. @AaronB

    But where are the subtle, adaptive, intelligent people on the alt-right? Why are there – as of yet – so few? Why are they so stupid?

    As yet, there are few people on the alt-right who are trying to change things. We have not yet got to the stage of either fighting the spirit of the times, or subtly changing it. Mostly we are still only sharing information and discussing developments that are beyond our control.

    You are probably right about not fighting modern trends head-on, but I want to be the Devil’s Advocate here. Only 60 years ago, the “woke” were as marginalised as we are now – yet they have prevailed. We need to study how they succeeded. At the very least, we should adopt Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – notably, make the enemy live up to its own rules; and use ridicule as a powerful weapon. The enemy has become lazy and complacent, and this makes it an easy target.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  103. I believe the decline of men has not bottomed out yet. In Western Europe certainly, the process of evicting excess “white males above 50” – a common phrase in France – has not been completed.

    It will continue to get worse. If an organisation usefully employs a white or Asian man in a high-prestige job, it will also have to employ a white or Asian woman to do a similar job, and a non-Asian minority (NAM) man and a NAM woman too. The small number of capable women and NAMs will be in high demand, and employers who cannot find them will have to employ less capable people to make up the gender and racial balance. The costs of running a technology company, for example, will rise by a factor of 4.

    Of course this is unworkable, and it will be a prominent feature of the decline of the West.

    Western history is marked by cycles of decadence and rebirth.
    (followed by discussion of paganism vs Christianity)

    This is an interesting point, but I think it is mistaken. The present struggle will not be as long-lived. It is not part of a trend that will still be recognisable in 2,000 years, or even 200 years.

    In Europe, our low birth rate and unwillingness to oppose mass immigration mean that we are being replaced by people of more virile, but less intelligent, races. This is happening already, and before the end of this century there will either be a popular revolt against the “woke”, or we will become a minority in our own countries and the discussion we are having now will be moot.

    In 100 years’ time, China will be the world’s dominant economic power, and it is quite possible that our own civilisation will have been overrun. The same has happened to every other civilisation from Europe to Persia, as described by Sir John Glubb in “The Fate of Empires”:

    http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

    Glubb gives each civilisation a lifetime of 250 years. Our own civilisation (which could be described as post-Enlightenment Western Christianity) is near the end of its time – and even 40 years ago Glubb saw parallels with the decline of the Islamic Golden Age in Baghdad. It is notable that when civilisation is rebuilt after a collapse, this seldom occurs in the same place.

    It is not clear that a permanent prosperous civilisation is even possible, and the problem is ourselves. It is a great idea, but not a good fit to our species.

  104. Kiel says:
    @John Johnson

    You Said: “Promoting a negative attitude isn’t helping anyone. Everyone in my neighborhood is happily married but I’m sure you don’t even think that is possible.”

    You don’t know what’s happening behind those closed doors, or what each of those individuals is doing on their own behind their spouse’s back.

    On the flip side, I hope you’re right, that you do live in one of the few cloisters of 1950’s values – that’s assuming the 50’s were ever really the 50’s.

    I suggest you check-out the flick Divorce Inc.

    You said: “There are plenty of good women outside of the cities.”

    The problem isn’t geographical, it’s cultural, and by extension, political/judicial – and you are doing any sons you may have a disservice if you are not educating them to the game as it exists today.

    You’re living in dreamland in you think the family courts aren’t stacked against the boys these days, that they aren’t anything other than wealth transfer devices, from male to female, in the building of the Marxist Utopia known as the ZSA.

    This isn’t about me having a bad attitude, this is about the new reality that there’s a 50/50 chance marriage will cost a man up to everything he has: his name, his assets, his job, his children, and quite possibly his life.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Anonymous
  105. utu says:
    @Anon

    “Why didn’t you respond with substance to my other points? ” – Do not waste your time on Martyanov. He probably no longer knows where the truth ends and his obligatory pro Russian defensive propaganda begins because possibly he may believe his own propaganda. Anyway, you sound like a reasonable guy and I hope people like you constitute majority in Russia.

  106. @AaronB

    This is only evidence that you know no Russians at all.

  107. Miggle says:

    Has anyone here ever seen a male mosquito?

  108. According to financially apt politicians, and morally supported by bulky bean counters, it’s more profitable to tax a man and a woman separately, instead of as a single couple.

    Therefore, drop the wages, so both have to work, and then tax them equally. A win-win situation for both the politicians and bean counters.

    Make it socially less awkward for women to smoke [the old ‘Torches of Freedom’ gambit] and the tobacco industry will love ‘you’ to death.

    In nature [very much in general] a male or female have to prove something, but we, homo sapiens sapiens, we’re all winners, and that’s how, in the end, we’ll lose…

    Newton’s third law needs to be rewritten in order to be able to explain current day events. Not a biggie, of course, but who gets to do the scribbling?

    One thing that really annoys me: women who rail against ‘man-spreading.’ I ain’t got a hose and 2 cardboard boxes dangling between my legs, but what is there, likes air and coolness. There’s a natural reason why those crown jewels are on the outside [and relatively unprotected].

    • Replies: @jim jones
  109. Miro23 says:

    On the one hand, at the personal level, the general effeminacy of the current generation will make it all the easier for a young man to shine, with just a bit of effort. As it is written in Hagakure: “So many men now seem to have the pulse of a woman. There are few who can be thought of as a real man. This means that one man can surpass others by making just a small effort.” Work out, make money, form a posse, dare to have some sense, and you’ll thrive.

    This seems to be true. Leftist/feminist SJW women aren’t so interested in the wimpy, touchy-feely, emotional, PC “men” who are supposedly their ideal.

  110. It’s not just that they are women. It’s that they look like children. Some of them are probably 40-something, and yet they look like teenagers and probably talk up-talk in creaky-voice, and god knows what their minds look like. Like a doll store I imagine. Or a tea shoppe with doilies.

    • Replies: @Kiel
    , @Harbinger
  111. I know a woman who says that women and children should not be allowed to work unless they can prove they are the sole support of her family.

    You see, she was single, and had a job alongside a bunch of female fact-checkers who didn’t care how much they got paid because their husbands were the bread-winners and their income was just lagniappe, you know, for re-decorating the bathroom or a cruise or something.

    Yup, a woman said that. One who knew on which side her bread was buttered.

  112. @Jim Christian

    Au contraire. Many women who join the army are prostitutes. Real ones. Location, location, location.

  113. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    Before even reading the article, I must say: that photo of the Huffington Post editorial board looks like every branch bank (from six or seven different institutions) I have done business with and every health clinic, medical practice or pharmacy I’ve been a patient of over the last decade or so. Of course, retail is all female and so are most food services. Well, what would one expect when the baseline ratio of female to male in most undergraduate, graduate and professional programs (yes, even in the hard sciences) at universities throughout America these days is approximately 3:2 (60% and upwards). Couple the latter with the vigorous anti-white male bias in corporate hiring to ensure “parity” for women, minorities and sexual deviants and I have no idea what straight white male human beings do for gainful employment these days (other than independent contractors like electricians, plumbers, AC techs, and auto repair… oh, yeah, the garbage collectors are always male). They are found virtually nowhere interfacing with the public. In spite of affirmative action, things are even worse for black males. I spent my entire career (now retired) professoring at flagship universities in higher education (various biomedical departments) across the country and can say that nearly all of the black students and interns are women. No shortage of them, but the male of the species seems almost extinct. Now I will read the article to see if things are even worse than I suspect.

    • Replies: @anon
  114. GMC says:

    Bottom line – minorities have always been brought into the work force because of lower wages and they won’t ” buck the corrupt system”, like the normal male that they replace.

  115. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    to be more in tune with emotion, soul, and spirit, all feminine qualities.

    The feminine is the average, the masculine covers the far ends — this is true about emotion soul and spirit as well as everything else be it bodily or mental.

  116. Ghali says:

    The title is not accurate. It should read, The Decline of Good Men and Rise of Assertive Women.

    It still gives a good idea about today’s world.

  117. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @advancedatheist

    Hmmm, sitting as we are at 2020, we are already halfway through the death phase in that rendition of the classic bacterial growth curve.

    Is that meant to depict some kind of average human productivity for the world writ large, or is it specific to America in its original context? I do note the dates.

    When China and India fully come on line in their technological/economic developments, their crashes are sure to come very soon after their peak, since the world only has a limited amount of needed natural resources and places to safely put all the toxic wastes generated from their processing and rendering–considerations directly appropriated from the bacterial growth curve.

    No familiarity with Richard Duncan, but my generation of now end-phase geezers was first awakened to the inevitability of societal collapse (from simple thermodynamic principles) by Gunther Stent in his book “The Coming of the Golden Age: A View of the End of Progress.” The Natural History Press, 1969. Even the greater Universe is eventually in for “Entropic Doom,” aka “Heat Death.” See you in another universe?

  118. @AaronB

    You are at your weakest when you fight powerful currents, and strongest when you go along with them, and then shape them to your desires.

    Consistent w/ Kevin Macdonald Jewish crypsis

    and with the directives of the rabbi:

    h/t Harbinger https://www.unz.com/article/the-church-of-england-apologises-for-talk-on-palestine/#comment-3531185

    1. As for what you say that the king of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.
    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.
    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christian’s lives.
    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.
    5. As for the other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

    Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

    Some Big Jews damn Gertrude Stein for collaborating w/ Vichy to save her hide, but in fact, she saved herself by mixing in with Catholics. Turns out it’s a very Jewy thing to do.

    • Replies: @Wally
  119. @Jim Christian

    You could be onto something there Christian. And when these trannies start winning women’s beauty contests. Considering how things are going the trannies could become more feminine than the women, better looking, and more attractive than the real women who are turning into ugly fat slobs. What then when real men start losing interest in women and turning their attention to trannies? This could eventually lead to the collapse of the affirmative action culture. Such as men pretending that they’re women or whites pretending that they’re blacks or Indians because of some 0.001% vague ancestry and taking the positions and jobs reserved for minorities.

  120. @anarchyst

    There are more of us whites who know what is going on than most realize. Us whites who are aware keep a low profile due to the volatile atmosphere that we live in.

    Perhaps among the older generation that remember how it was before all these rapid and massive social changes. Are you sure this applies to the younger ones who are actually growing up in this new world and being brought up to accept that these changes are inevitable and have no recollections of the past other than as curiosities in museums and old movies? They’re being indoctrinate to accept all that is and that’s coming and to make the best of it that they can under the circumstances. But it’s the young that count, the old generation is dying out with its memories of a different world.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  121. JackOH says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “I’d also tell him to emigrate to Poland if he has any capacity for language learning.”

    You bet, DH, emigration ought to be considered a thought for younger guys, those who are disgruntled or who are likely to never be gruntled (LOL).

    In an essay I’m submitting for local publication, I write that “there’s an untold number of Americans who’ve successfully relocated from the land of the stuffed shirts and empty suits to points elsewhere”, and I specifically mention Eastern Europe as a possible destination location, with a caution for language. Chances of publication are pretty good, and, if published, will likely provoke some discussion among local opinion leaders.

    Davy Crockett left the States. Betrayed CIA operative Valerie Plame and her truth-telling diplomat husband Joe Wilson were thinking of fleeing. There’s nothing dishonorable or cowardly about leaving a country that’s not working for you and where meaningful political change is too remote.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  122. @John Johnson

    Historically wrong; the USSR did, in fact, adopt limited market economics, and economically things were going fairly well even up to 1993.

    The USSR fell due to Islam. By 1991 there were several civil wars inside the USSR borders, most of them of the Islam-vs-infidels kind. At that point the USSR leadership decided to call it a day and give up.

  123. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @WorkingClass

    Yet regulation is good for competition (small business) and pulls Capital down and Labor up into a prosperous middle class that doesn’t need welfare.

    I actually disagree with this. Small businesses thrive most of all in the face of selectively enforced legislation that only comes into play when a business reaches a certain size and, secondly, in the face of very spartan legislation.

    On the contrary, when wide ranging legislation is widely enforced, an extra hurdle is created that favours those who are experienced in dealing with it. This helps big businesses and encourages franchises while hurting small businesses and startups.

  124. TKK says:
    @El Dato

    I can’t even watch a recent movie in a group because when I see the afro(ed) big black woman depicted as the physicist/CEO/smartest person in the room, I laugh out loud. Then get mad.

    An entire subcontinent and subculture that literally can’t feed themselves- fervently shown as magical, wise and honorable geniuses.

  125. Anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Markus Areola

    American feminism should be called emasculo-feminism, and that description would include probably almost all marriage relations in this cucked society. The odd thing is that women will back down when challenged by a real man on any open playing field. Forty years ago Col. Charlie Beckwith, who was sabotaged by his superiors in the 1980 Iran rescue, wrote that such weak men advance women as a foil to keep their betters in check. This is now triply the case with the military giving unmerited preferment not just to women, but to queers and transgenders, who in both cases are said to be the real strength of the military when they’re, in fact, obviously its weakest link.

    Thomas Fleming of Chronicles Magazine wrote decades ago that he’d started noticing that a foul mix of aggressive, emasculo-feminist women and gay or ostentatiously effeminate male clergy were quietly taking over the Episcopal Church in America because real men weren’t paying attention. He became a Catholic, I believe, where I’m sure he found that that church was upping the ante by claiming, as the Vatican now does, that homosexuality is a preferred path to a sanctified life.

    In general, white women appear to be drawn to and support male homosexuals as a means of disempowering their own heterosexual men and boys. I further believe this has come about as part of a very clever strategy, mainly promulgated by the Jews, of granting women such unmerited preferment as to give them a sense of contempt toward their own men. Someone commenting above notes that when things are going good, men are useless to women in America.

    Hollywood and the 100% kosher msm’s grinning mockery of white American men wouldn’t be complete without Fox News and the rest of the propaganda machine arranging loudmouthed women in a kaffeeklatch setting on news shows to lecture men about the world at large. Such women have no shame, not even about their most intimate sexual matters. This jokes on them, however, since American women appear to believe referring to themselves or marching in the streets as the embodiment of sexual function or appetite is empowering. They also appear doubly proud of taking places from their own men in professional schools where, typically, there are more than two dozen more qualified young white males passed over for every woman accepted. The great irony is that men will do just fine when the shtf and it becomes time to get on with hard living and fighting, while these pampered women, who’ll give the homicidally anti-white coalition of racist POCs the edge in elections, will suffer badly.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  126. “If women’s liberation is unthinkable without communism, then communism is unthinkable without women’s liberation.” That statement is a perfect summary of the relationship between the fight for both socialism and women’s liberation–neither is possible without the other.

    Any questions comrade?
    https://socialistworker.org/2013/01/31/marxism-feminism-and-womens-liberation

    • Replies: @John Yuma
  127. Moreover, Engels explicitly argued that rape and violence against women were built in to the family at its beginning:

    The man took command in the home also; the woman was degraded and reduced to servitude; she became the slave of his lust and a mere instrument for the production of children…In order to make certain of the wife’s fidelity and therefore the paternity of his children, she is delivered over unconditionally into the power of the husband; if he kills her, he is only exercising his rights.

  128. @El Dato

    And the sequel, about the trannies who really won the war

    “Sashaying the SS to death!”

    • LOL: TKK
  129. @Anonymous

    In a new book, “Betty Friedan and the Making of the Feminine Mystique”, Smith College professor Daniel Horowitz (no relation) establishes beyond doubt that the woman who has always presented herself as a typical suburban housewife until she began work on her groundbreaking book was in fact nothing of the kind. In fact, under her maiden name, Betty (((Goldstein))), she was a political activist and professional propagandist for the Communist left for a quarter of a century before the publication of “The Feminist Mystique” launched the modern women’s movement.

    Yes, feminist Mommy was a Commie
    https://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/friedan-per-horowitz.html

  130. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    if crypsis is king, er, queen, it’s a lot easier for a male to fake being female than the other way around.

    We are all Pocahontas.

    (just remember to put the toilet seat down)

  131. @JackOH

    Thanks for your comment. I’m emigrating myself next year, although I’m in my 60s. Daniel Boone also left the United States to move to Missouri, where he died. Missouri was then under the suzerainty of Spain.

  132. Che Guava says:

    Thie western left has long been a pile of faeces.

  133. It’s like that in Parliament here in Cuckatain. Used to be a place of debate of clever White Men.

    Now women + darks have turned it into a episode of Da Jerry Springer show. The rules against clapping, cheering, applaudind, whooping like a turd world animal abolished. Now just a bunch of Frumps whining, cheering , applauding the latest piz issue of SJWism. T

    The diff w Springer – he was entertaining, they are nauseating schmaltz. Saw one dumpy Geordie drump wearing a binliner whining on news yesterday – She was wider than hi – not even klo.

    Ofc WM are WKs. Upper Class Twat buffoonson drunk on Soggy Biscuits hasn’t even appointed a White Man in cabinet. I’ll NEVER VITE AGAIN – PARLIAMENT SHOULD BE HELD IN A TOILET!!!!

  134. Gosh, all these manly fellows seem to be so very sensitive. The history of the capitalist world since the Bolshevik revolution has been utter terror of the people that animates the few hundred men who essentially own everything worth owning. Their obsession is the absolute, total control of the nasty unwashed masses, who, as James Madison shrilly declared “labour under all the hardships of life, and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessing”. What better way to keep the masses impotent by ruining the most satisfying of human relationships, turning men against women, and by this I do not mean the feminist movement, which is the liberation of all humans from the toxic waste of patriarchal monotheism. Rather, the carefully orchestrated political backlash to women’s liberation, which like the fundamentalist religious revival, is bought and paid for by corporate interests. It is based in the same morbidly anal-retentive fear-based worldview that is the foundation of so-called conservatism, that life is a zero sum game, that freedom is so limited that if a group long denied equality is liberated, then someone else will have to surrender what little freedom they do have. This is irrational nonsense, f.e.a.r in its most elemental: false evidence appearing real.

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
    • Troll: utu
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  135. Chelsea is that man in the beard with a penis… didn’t you know?

  136. Jews does not want white Goyms women to have children. The Jewish feminism and so called liberation of women are Jewish tools for destruction of white race,

    • Replies: @John Yuma
  137. pyrrhus says:
    @advancedatheist

    Patriarchy is clearly genetic…Men are bigger, stronger, faster and more innovative…Women give birth, care for children, and create social life…That division of labor has been around forever.

  138. anarchyst says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You make a very good point about those who “live in today’s world” not knowing any better. There are many “clueless” whites out there. but with the millenials, there is at least SOME hope.

    As today’s white youth come of age, seeing jobs and other opportunities that are rightfully theirs, given to unqualified minorities, while being denied the right to celebrate their (and our) white accomplishments, their attitudes usually change. They see that the deck is stacked against whites.

    Racial preference and promotion of the culture are immutable human characteristics that cannot be stamped out, no matter how much the pro-multiculturalism and diversity crowd try. It can be discouraged, but always returns.

    In fact, today’s millennials do not have the requisite “baggage” that us older whites have had imposed on us. The misplaced “guilt” for “racial discrimination” that we were forced to accept is absent, since the so-called “civil-rights” laws have been in place for the last 60 years–for their total lifetimes. This is one reason why “they don’t know any better”.

    It is imperative that us older whites get the message out, that this whole “civil-rights” scam’s total purpose is to genocide us whites out of existence.

    Regards,

  139. Alfred says:
    @onebornfree

    Many years ago, I had an Iranian girlfriend. She had two brothers but little knowledge about men.

    One day, I was in the mood for a joke. I pretended to be not feeling well. She asked me what the problem was. I told that it was that time of the month. She was amazed and her eyes became like saucers. REALLY she said. I could not stop smiling and she then realized that I had fooled her and she smacked me one.

  140. Sounds like society is becoming more and more matriarchal. Most if not all matriarchal societies are primitive. If so, this doesn’t bode well for the future.

  141. Mefobills says:
    @WorkingClass

    Capital vs Labor unites the many against the few. All against all is Capital’s wet dream. That’s where we are today by Capital’s design. While the workers fight among themselves the Capitalists become Oligarchs and then Feudal Lords.

    Finance Capitalism creates debt instruments. New debts hypothecate new bank credit, which pays old debts. This keeps the bond holders happy.

    Every 50 years or so, there is a debt cycle. In biblical terms it is 7 x 7 = 49 years. We are deep into prolonging old debts with new debts now, and the old debts are making usurious exponential claims, funding plutocracy.

    WW2 paid off previous debt by debt free spending from Treasury. In the U.S. this form of spending was from line items in the budget that channeled into new plant and equipment and war material. The overhang of the war left behind debt free infrastructure that went on the fuel the post war boom along with a new debt cycle for consumer goods.

    This cycle petered out in the late 60 and mid 70’s, and bankster types induced women into the workforce.

    Women in effect became new debtors. New debt pays off old debt.

    PAY ATTENTION NOW! Finance capitalism does thejust explained debt mechanics, but Industrial Capitalism does not.

    Industrial Capital creates sovereign debt and channels its new state credit toward means of production. This type of capital only goes after new industry and production, and does not monetize women and children to pay old finance derived debts.

    It gets quite annoying when people pull out the old capitalism canard, and don’t look at the money underlying said capitalism.

    Money is capital, plant and equipment are capital, and labor is a form of capital.

    As I am fond of saying, if you don’t understand the money, you just don’t understand. You don’t understand history, and you make false assumptions about reality.

    E-Michael Jones has done a good job of explaining how breaking up families and using sex is a revolutionary act by our (((friends))). Our friends in turn are finance capitalists, who hold debt instruments against the world. If you drill into it a bit, you will also find that universal suffrage voting was funded by the (((usual suspects))).

    OK? It is always about the money, and most of the bad western movements have a underlying cause, where an in-group of “special” money powered predators have no problem tearing down what others have built. They tear down and destroy in order to take rents and self-aggrandize. This group of predators passes hypnosis and a dialectic through their owned press. Capitalism vs Communism, when both are elements of the same thing. The dialectic is always capitalism vs communism, as if there is no other choice. Remember always, finance capital funded the Bolsheviks into existence.

    Industrial Capitalism with sovereign money (state credit) – or a form of National Socialism works just fine as an economic and political form, and this form of social organization will protect white people within its confines. Sovereign forms of money are not the same as Federal Reserve notes and private bank credit.

    http://www.sovereignmoney.eu

  142. AaronB says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The Woke succeeded partially by using the methods I am describing. Mockery only works on people who think you are one of them – the in-group. Otherwise mockery is easy to dismiss. No one cares about the mockery of people they completely disagree with and see as lunatics.

    So first you have to establish your credentials as part of the in-group by at least partially agreeing with them – then, at the right moment, mockery may have an effect.

    Mockery from the alt-right will have zero effect – worse, it will strengthen the Left, giving them a sense of enemy. People like Vox Day are the greatest friends to the Left, just as anti-Semites are the greatest friends to the Jews. Each group needs and benefits from each other. But people like Vox Day make money off their showmanship – beware such people.

    But there is a much larger point to be made here. There is such a thing as “the times” – its composed of a million forces out of our control that we can’t understand. Its the task of intelligence to divine the nature and trend of the times and act accordingly.

    There are moments where strategic withdrawal and biding one’s time is the best path. And this seems to me clearly such a time. The best thing to do is something like Rod Dreher’s Benedict Option – a strategic withdrawal until the times are propitious once again, and a shoring up of energy not a wasteful squandering of it in pointless headlong assaults that crash against mighty walls that don’t give way.

    The fact of the matter is, for reasons beyond our understanding and control, there are times when certain types of men predominate – this is simply a fact. During these times there simply is no chance of any headway being made because the material simply isn’t there. Instead of destroying oneself one conserves ones energy and waits patiently until the times inevitably begin to change – which they invariably do.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  143. Rurik says:
    @AaronB

    You are at your weakest when you fight powerful currents, and strongest when you go along with them, and then shape them to your desires.

    But where are the subtle, adaptive, intelligent people on the alt-right?

    [my emphasis]

    There was an alt-right figure of sorts who operated a website on how to accomplish exactly what you’re suggesting, until they shut him down for being too ((savvy)).

    It was called Chateau Heartiste, and there’s only the shell of it left on the Internet.

    His point was that we’re living in a time of ((imposed)) mass-psychosis, (obviously intended to destroy us) but that we men can make it work for us, if we’re smart about it.

    Science is the key, and a fundamental understanding of human nature, and particularly the nature of the ‘hamster’- (the driving sub-conscience evolutionary forces that guild the spirit of the fairer sex).

    So as (((Globohomo))) engulfs the West, and our maidens are lost in a sea of pernicious and toxic palaver, it is our duty as men to ruffle their hamsters in subtle and positive ways, and offer a gallant, confident man’s hand down to them, to lead them though the labyrinth of their benumbed femininity, to the fruits of true happiness and contentment.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  144. John Yuma says:

    When women get the vote it ushers in the dawn of progressivism. They can’t control their motherly instincts.

    • Replies: @TKK
  145. Harbinger says:

    The Jews gave women power because they knew that their emotional illogic would utterly smash the western civilisation into pieces. Not ‘all’ women, but certainly the overwhelming majority are incapable of common sense. Because of women being ruled by the heart they are incapable of making rational decisions.
    Case in point:
    If a man was in charge of a village and a group of outsiders tried to enter, after some kind of world apocalypse, where everyone was dying of a mysterious disease, he wouldn’t allow them in. He may give them necessary provisions, but the safety of the village outweighs the safety of the newcomers. If a woman was in charge, she would let them in, especially if there were children in the group. In doing so, she’d infect the whole village. Women think with their heart, proven overwhelmingly after the ‘dead baby on the beach’ fiasco, where upon seeing it in the paper, they were crying out to let immigrants pile into their nation, regardless of criminal history, medical status etc.

    The promotion of homosexuality and the transgender madness is, again, overwhelmingly supported by women. Whereas a father would have disowned his child were he to find out he was a homosexual, the mother wouldn’t and condone his sexual choices. I know a single mother who has 4 children. One of her sons is a homosexual and she allows his boyfriend to sleep over at his house. He’s under 16. She is in her late 30’s. My father, on the other hand, whom were he alive would be in his mid 90’s wouldn’t even allow me to have a girlfriend in the house when I was 21! I would have been kicked out of the home had I said “dad, I’m gay”.

    Women have incredible power today because they are incredibly manipulable. Inherently selfish, materialistic, capricious creatures, they will happily break all morals and ethics in order to get what they wish. Classic example of this is the huge rise of young women (and older) who have gone into the porn industry. There no longer is any social stigma with it. These young women care only for themselves and don’t think about how their parents feel on their choice of career. For a father to know that his daughter is doing disgusting sex acts on film, must be dreadful, but again they don’t care. These young women will make around $1,500 for a scene in a porn movie that might take between 45 mins+ to film. They have no morals. The way they see it is; “why work in retail for $12 an hour when I can do porn and earn 1,000 times more?”

    It’s not so much that it’s a change in behaviour in women. It’s more about the fact that women have been released from their duty to society. This behaviour is within all women. It’s always there, within, dormant, ready to come out. And the Jew released women from their obligations to society with the temptation of lots of money, power and success no differently to the devil tempting Eve with the apple from the tree of knowledge. If I’m out on an evening, there are overwhelmingly more groups of women out, getting drunk. Most of them are fat, courtesy of the copious amounts of sugary cocktails they consume. This leads to arguments, then to fights. Then you can add the growth of lesbianism and with it the acceptance of homosexuality where heterosexual women flit between lesbianism, bisexual and heterosexual relationships.

    The matriarchy is putty in the hands of the Jew, compared to a white hot piece of metal in the patriarchy. The Jew cannot control western man, so he controls the woman by giving her her every desire.

    The sad reality is that Men are Going Their Own Way today. This ‘happening’, not a movement is the direct result of female hypergamous behaviour with unrestricted power. Men are staying out of relationships with women for obvious reasons. It’s incredibly easy to be hauled up on a false rape allegation and courtesy of #MeToo, your career destroyed over a sexual assault allegation in the workplace. As a result, the white male birthrates are falling. Sure, non whites are also following suit in the west, but NOT in their own nations (other than Japan where this is also happening).
    This reality was predicted in an experiment by John B Calhoun in his ‘mouse utopia’ experiment in the early ’70’s. It showed that as a population grew and the female mice gained more power within that mouse society, the men shut themselves off and stopped mating, deciding to groom themselves, becoming known as the ‘beautiful ones’. The women, on the other hand fought one another and the population started to die.

    The role of women is not to lead, but to follow and submit to the male. The complete opposite is happening in the west and as a result, destroying itself. Film after film, TV show after TV show, denigrate the white male and white male parent. The female is shown to be the strong one, the leader and the man ridiculed.
    I suggest all of you go over to ‘Black Pilled’ on YouTube as he does an excellent job in dissecting films from Hollywood and the message within.

    Women’s purpose in life is to birth children and raise them to be productive members of society with ethics and morals. They have failed in their only duty to mankind. They have decided they want to be male (literally), go out, drink, get drunk, fight and control. They then end up miserable, in their 40’s, no family, a mid life crisis, they’ve hit the wall, their looks have gone and sexual market value plummeted, destined to being barflies, getting picked up for one night stands and a life of loneliness (now an epidemic in the west for women), an apartment with lots of cats, before being sold to pay for care in an old people’s home.

    Women have stopped being women. It’s that simple and that’s why western society is plummeting down the sewer.

  146. Rurik says:
    @AaronB

    Freedom is internal, not external.

    tell that to Julian

  147. John Yuma says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Yes, we do want white “goyim” to have children– but only daughters.

  148. John Yuma says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Only an idiot would wear a pink pussy hat.

  149. The solution is very simple.

    Bomb israel, and arrest, try and convict them for treason and crimes against humanity, not all of them* but about, 20.000 and lock them-up in an island in the Pacific.
    Every body else will get in his/her senses.

    *those they have created the chaos we live in today.

    P.S.
    Looking at the pic of the Huffington Post “editorial staff”, makes me wonder why we are in this mess today.
    BTW, how many jewesses in this ugly and un-erotic group?

  150. Rurik says:
    @Justvisiting

    The key is to turn the woke movement into a circular firing squad:

    Reconquistas vs white CA woke folk

    I once heard that some of the California fires were/are being set by the forces of Reconquista, (Mexicans). In order to drive out the whiteys who ‘stole’ their lands.

    If so, and if a wealthy white liberal living in a Santa Barbara mansion, (demanding unlimited immigration from the Third World into all working class, white, fly-over neighborhoods), should lose his home to Mexican immigrants with a grudge against whitey- then surely there’s a certain serendipity to that, no?

  151. Emslander says:

    We may be looking at this as too much of a personal insult. Young men are choosing not to attend college, primarily because it’s become a useless emasculator. Many of them are looking at the pioneer spirit, not so much as wandering off to unsettled lands as to exploring the unsettled lands right in the middle of the worthless civilization fashioned by homosexuals and ignorant women. The street vendor near your apartment building may be the equivalent of the backwoods trapper. In other words, young men do what men do, they carve out a living which is as independent as possible from the stifling dehumanization of the affirmative action world.

    See what this leads to. Colleges have to provide luxury accommodations and opportunities for prostitution in order to attract the girls to the otherwise unnatural world of academia. Women are not natural academics. The few pioneering women thinkers are generally derivative of the work of some male who didn’t have the social skills to promote his discoveries. So, colleges and universities have doomed themselves. In the not-too-distant future, the concept of going off to some expensive living arrangement to listen and learn about the principles of liberalism will be considered as idiotic as a marathon dance contest.

    In the same way, spending one’s life combatting paper cuts in full-floor cubicle forests will have no commercial function. Law firms today have become hideouts for the unfortunate women who chose to go to law school because they thought they’d find wealthy men there to hunt and marry. They’re the few places left where dressing up is an occasional expectation.

    My point is that there’s no use chasing the passing economic models that grew up since WWII and were never likely to last. The best thing for young men to do is to wait for the sad realization to hit all the women who were too stupid to identify the trends and, as they seek meaning in the new wildernesses where real men have set up camp, enjoy the fun of procreating again. Those pioneers will have all the mating companions they’d ever dreamed of, because they’ll be the only ones who’ll have the survival skills.

    Embrace the collapse.

  152. Then again- what is the topic here? This thread reminds me of a remake of a French classic “Jules & Jim”, with its unforgettable line: they were asking for answers, while they still didn’t know the questions.

  153. Before I forget…. I’ve only had time to read the first par and check whethrr Toffler (Alvin and Heidi) got a mention later for Future Shock which I misremembered as a 60s book instead of 1970 (with Germaine Greer’s The Female Eunuch). I recall a senior partner in McKinsey & Co holding forth at a dinner party about that book. So,,, when I read on,,,, am I going to get an advance on 1970?

  154. @Prester John

    Like this. The poor guy couldn’t handle suggestion that he will be unfair to LGBT community. Aw, it’s so sweet. So, emotional.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  155. Ah, I may have been OT. Can I compensate now that I have skimmed further by offering a simple universal rule to solve the Tranny problem: “No penis’s in Ladies Restrooms”.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  156. Poco says:
    @RadicalCenter

    It is excellent advice. I graduated from college in 1995, found a job pretty quick, tried the whole office sitter route and could not abide it. One year later I was an apprentice electrician and now own a successful electrical contracting business. Married, kids, grandkids, with more on the way. For me, this is what life is about. It was the best decision I ever made. It was hard physical work, especially in the early years, but what’s the big deal about physical labor?

  157. @Harbinger

    You describe it well. The women are being manipulated toward certain ends. But many of those female proclivities and dispositions could be equally used toward other ends.

    Women think with their heart, proven overwhelmingly after the ‘dead baby on the beach’ fiasco, where upon seeing it in the paper, they were crying out to let immigrants pile into their nation, regardless of criminal history, medical status etc.

    That’s what they were shown and what they were told. Had they been shown gruesome images of children and women victims of terrorist attacks and immigrant crime in their own countries together with the message that the culprits need to be kicked out, those same feeling would work in a different direction.

  158. @AaronB

    Women should not be allowed to vote or hold office at any level of government. They are hopelessly foolish. Women’s Lib = Liberation from Truth, the Right to maintain obvious lies about the sexes and races, etc.
    Cf. Gloria Steinem’s: “The Truth Will Set You Free, But First It Will Piss You Off!”
    Liberated women are women pissed off about the truth. But only the truth can allow whites to be free…

  159. Kiel says:
    @obwandiyag

    “It’s not just that they are women. It’s that they look like children. Some of them are probably 40-something, and yet they look like teenagers and probably talk up-talk in creaky-voice, and god knows what their minds look like. Like a doll store I imagine. Or a tea shoppe with doilies.”

    If you’re thinking that is a result of the estrogen mimicking chemicals in the food & food containers, and targeted vaccines that negatively affect a young male’s hormonal development, then I agree.

    If you’re comment is just another male shaming tactic, that the men in your day just happened to be real men, then you’re full of shit and part of the problem.

    There’s nothing accidental about any of this, it’s the purposeful creation of a crap matriarchy in the service of their douchey goat god with tits and a dick.

  160. ricpic says:

    There has never been a disinterested woman.

  161. Rurik says:

    How many white men has she seen overtly discriminated against until, mysteriously.. now she’s upset by it.

    Hmm..

    What has changed?

    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/10/31/former-center-city-starbucks-manager-suing-company-for-alleged-discrimination-against-white-people/

  162. Wally says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Gertrude Stein did not ‘save her hide by collaborating w/ Vichy’ since the alleged “extermination of Jews” has been proven to be a lie.

  163. Cultural Marxism is a function of Jewish Media power.
    That power is a bubble that is bursting as the Media lies and lies and lies it’s way into irrelevancy.
    The Cult Marxist’s will follow.
    Good Riddance.

  164. FvS says:
    @AaronB

    Spoken like a true Jew. Except, whenever whites try this strategy and get called out on it, they don’t have the Holocaust card to pull. Nonetheless, I do agree that those in the Dissident Right should do whatever it takes to obtain power, even if it means lying and concealment.

  165. Harbinger says:
    @obwandiyag

    “It’s not just that they are women. It’s that they look like children. Some of them are probably 40-something, and yet they look like teenagers and probably talk up-talk in creaky-voice, and god knows what their minds look like. Like a doll store I imagine. Or a tea shoppe with doilies.”

    Many factors as to why this is happening.
    I would suggest that you (and everyone in fact) watch a YouTuber I’ve recently discovered, called Devon Stack. His channel is Black Pilled. He reviews movies and tells the viewer what they’re really promoting, that is indoctrinating you with.
    One of his videos explains what you have stated in women and older people. The video is called The Fate of Americans.

    However, women, in their 40’s are acting all girly because most of them are unhappy with their lives, in dead end jobs, no partner, no children and have old age to look forward to, a single life, an apartment full of cats and loneliness. These women have ‘hit the wall’, that is to state, they have passed their sexual market value peak, no longer can reproduce, their body has started to go south and they are no longer in the radar of men. They are invisible and being ‘ghosted’ by men. Therefore, they dress 20 years younger than they are, hence the saying “mutton dressed as lamb” in order to desperately attempt to attract a younger male, or any male with resources to look after them and stop the inevitable explained above.
    This is what feminism has given women – all the freedom to go out, party with the girls, get drunk, have as much casual sex as they want and spend their twenties and thirties as hedonistic whores, living a life of debauchery and degeneracy. These women, in their 40’s, most out of shape, offer men nothing but a place to park their penis. They somehow think they have the same, if not more to offer men, than the woman in her twenties. They don’t, but feminism has made them believe that they do. And so, Hollywood will cater to these women, making films about dating older women etc.

    What I’ve just described is a direct result of a massive attack on western culture. This never existed pre WW2. It was still a shameful act to co-habit with another, to have sex and children out of wedlock. Women who socialised in bars was also frowned upon, along with ‘sex workers’. That’s now done a 180. This is most certainly NOT natural, whatsoever.
    This is a direct result of the older single women, realising that they’re now used up, old, hasbeens that no one really wants. In the past, by that age they were already married, possibly for 10-15 years, with a teenage son and daughter, possibly more. They had grandchildren to look forward to and more importantly people to look after them, to care for them, to come around and see if they were alright. They had family. Today, these women have nothing.

    Feminism sold women the lie that they could have it all. They just never read the small print that stated: “you’re going to grow old alone, lonely and very probably commit suicide” (something that is growing rapidly here in the west).
    Worse for women, courtesy of family courts that have disgusting bias towards women, men are stepping away from marriage and relationships, making it even harder for women to get into relationships. I read, the other day, that some women in the US, was suing an ex boyfriend she’d cohabited with, for something like 3 months and was demanding some of his possessions, as payment for, sadly, the use of her vagina. It is stories like this and predatory tactics by women, that is only going to create a far larger divide between the sexes. This of course is exactly what (((they))) want.

    This is not natural. It is highly unnatural. Men are moving away from women, because of toxic feminism. Women are seeing this and doing their best to infiltrate as many men groups as they can, playing along with the anti feminism card, all in order to get into some kind of relationship, but the men can see them coming, knowing full well that marriage is nothing more than state sanctioned theft, of a man’s bank account and assets, for the woman.

    These women are desperate and will go to extreme lengths to find a man and get into a relationship. Marriage, to most women these days is nothing more than the road to divorce and a ready made pension, from the theft of their husband’s finances. Men, obviously are avoiding marriage and co-habitation with women.
    The situation is dire, but carefully sculpted to be so. And they’re targeting Europeans, over all other racial groups.

    • Replies: @ricpic
    , @obwandiyag
  166. peterAUS says:
    @Kiel

    .

    .The problem isn’t geographical, it’s cultural, and by extension, political/judicial – and you are doing any sons you may have a disservice if you are not educating them to the game as it exists today.

    You’re living in dreamland in you think the family courts aren’t stacked against the boys these days, that they aren’t anything other than wealth transfer devices, from male to female, in the building of the Marxist Utopia known as the ZSA.

    This isn’t about me having a bad attitude, this is about the new reality that there’s a 50/50 chance marriage will cost a man up to everything he has: his name, his assets, his job, his children, and quite possibly his life.

    Yep.

  167. @Andrei Martyanov

    The nominee lived a sheltered life in straight whitopia.

    He probably was told in church that evil existed, but did not really believe it–until that “teaching moment” caught on film.

    He just learned that all humans are not created equal–some are created to destroy others.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  168. @Twodees Partain

    Gabbbard’s photos are usually doctored by the media.
    She is a trans sexual male to female. Dental arch, neck (signs of surgery to minimize adam’s apple), brow ridge, etc.
    Bear in mind, many Hindu males aren’t that masculine to begin with. ‘She’ is one.
    Once a person learns anatomy there is no going back.
    Hollywood has been screwing with the perception of female and male since the very beginning.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  169. @Justvisiting

    I do it every day.

    If I’m talking to Chinese people… well, maybe I’ll bring up Indians and say something mildly disparaging.

    If I’m talking to Indians… I might just say something similar about the Chinese.

    And we all know that both groups hate blacks… so that is always an easy topic too.

    If it’s a Muslim I’m talking to, I make sure to disparage radical feminism and sluts.

    All groups dislike white liberals and SJWs.

    Subvert the system. Stop trying to hold up Clown World, it’s a Boomer vision of the past that no longer exists. Go with the flow, as AaronB says. If we have “diversity”, well then let’s make the most of it.

  170. @kerdasi amaq

    Very well said. I have always thought that myself.

  171. Traditional Abrahamic religion mandates patriarchal administration, which, if applied, would resolve the problem.

    But, of course, it lacks all value because it’s “just a myth.” Or so the rationale goes …

    Oh, well. With such lack of conviction, no wonder the west is imploding.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  172. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    “So the alt-right project of head on confrontation and rigid unbending resistance is stupid and bound to fail. Never has that succeeded in history.

    But where are the subtle, adaptive, intelligent people on the alt-right? Why are there – as of yet – so few? Why are they so stupid?”

    You only hear about the stupid ones, the smart ones are hidden in the system, changing it gradually and redirecting it.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  173. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    We can start by stopping the use of that horrible negro word “woke” and “wokeness”. It’s a terrible sounding illiterate word that fails to deliver any meaning. Why not use the proper English words awakened or illuminated. Whites should never be using the negro’s argot.

    • Replies: @Sunshine
  174. @Achmed E. Newman

    Coulter is better at using the left’s own words to make the left look stupid. Malkin is a better researcher/investigator.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  175. @Justvisiting

    The nominee lived a sheltered life in straight whitopia.

    This pretty much applies to overwhelming majority of the so called American “elites”, give and take few military-intelligence people and you get a cabal of spoiled brats who never experienced any degree of discomfort, not to mention necessity to overcome serious adversity, if not death, and you get the picture. This is the type of people who “run” the United States. Remove from their activities Saturday Golf and foie gras from ration and the world comes down crushing on them. That is why the US behaves itself as a petulant child, because it is run by petulant children.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  176. res says:

    However, for the sake of our young white boys – who are already being scapegoated for the inevitable failures to achieve equality and who need to take up their place in society as proud and confident men – I will provide a brief account of sex differences and what gender relations might look like in a healthy society.

    In a similar vein, I think it is worth providing a reference for the magnitude of various sex differences. Though IMHO biased towards the “men and women are the same” perspective, this paper is the best single source I have found for this data. Table 1 contains a multitude (three pages worth!) of differences expressed using Cohen’s d and the paper is well referenced (IIRC I saw some bias in how Hyde chose to report some of the results from the references, so worth checking deeper).
    The gender similarities hypothesis (Hyde 2005)
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16173891
    https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-606581.pdf

    I think this excerpt provides a good summary of the largest differences observed.

    As noted earlier, the gender similarities hypothesis does not assert that males and females are similar in absolutely every domain. The exceptions—areas in which gender differences are moderate or large in magnitude—should be recognized.
    The largest gender differences in Table 1 are in the domain of motor performance, particularly for measures such as throwing velocity (d 2.18) and throwing distance (d 1.98) (Thomas & French, 1985). These differences are particularly large after puberty, when the gender gap in muscle mass and bone size widens.
    A second area in which large gender differences are found is some— but not all—measures of sexuality (Oliver & Hyde, 1993). Gender differences are strikingly large for incidences of masturbation and for attitudes about sex in a casual, uncommitted relationship. In contrast, the gender difference in reported sexual satisfaction is close to zero.
    Across several meta-analyses, aggression has repeatedly shown gender differences that are moderate in magnitude (Archer, 2004; Eagly & Steffen, 1986; Hyde, 1984, 1986). The gender difference in physical aggression is particularly reliable and is larger than the gender difference in verbal aggression. Much publicity has been given to gender differences in relational aggression, with girls scoring higher (e.g., Crick & Grotpeter, 1995). According to the Archer (2004) meta-analysis, indirect or relational aggression showed an effect size for gender differences of -0.45 when measured by direct observation, but it was only -0.19 for peer ratings, -0.02 for self-reports, and -0.13 for teacher reports. Therefore, the evidence is ambiguous regarding the magnitude of the gender difference in relational aggression.

    And here is a meta study for sex differences in interests:
    Men and Things, Women and People: A Meta-Analysis of Sex Differences in Interests
    https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-19763-004
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/47af/4a7e87267aba681fb6971590ec80effce0c3.pdf

    Abstract:

    The magnitude and variability of sex differences in vocational interests were examined in the present meta-analysis for Holland’s (1959, 1997) categories (Realistic, Investigative, Artistic, Social, Enterprising, and Conventional), Prediger’s (1982) Things–People and Data–Ideas dimensions, and the STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) interest areas. Technical manuals for 47 interest inventories were used, yielding 503,188 respondents. Results showed that men prefer working with things and women prefer working with people, producing a large effect size (d = 0.93) on the Things–People dimension. Men showed stronger Realistic (d = 0.84) and Investigative (d = 0.26) interests, and women showed stronger Artistic (d = −0.35), Social (d = −0.68), and Conventional (d = −0.33) interests. Sex differences favoring men were also found for more specific measures of engineering (d = 1.11), science (d = 0.36), and mathematics (d = 0.34) interests. Average effect sizes varied across interest inventories, ranging from 0.08 to 0.79. The quality of interest inventories, based on professional reputation, was not differentially related to the magnitude of sex differences. Moderators of the effect sizes included interest inventory item development strategy, scoring method, theoretical framework, and sample variables of age and cohort. Application of some item development strategies can substantially reduce sex differences. The present study suggests that interests may play a critical role in gendered occupational choices and gender disparity in the STEM fields.

  177. TKK says:
    @John Yuma

    They are utterly vicious in the workplace. I see no mentoring or mother hen kindness unless it is to an attractive man or relative.

    Rather- female judges treat younger pretty female attorneys horrifically- unless her husband/father/relative is a man in power who could impact her life.

    Indeed, female judiciary and bosses inflict daily misery on millions of lives. One day, fawning over you, the next day distant and arbitrary, jealous, petty, unpredictable.

    Even if they are competent in the law- their inability (refusal?) to regulate their capricious moods makes every appearance a big Question Mark. As sweeping as it sounds, I find most female attorneys to be mentally ill.

    The exception would be public defenders. They are usually cool hippie chicks- laid back and just need the good health insurance the job provides for their children.

  178. Sunshine says:

    Oh God, yes to all of this. I’m a woman but obviously I’m not a “normal” woman or I wouldn’t be here. Women ARE nightmares to be around, especially when you’re a woman that doesn’t conform to the current social mores. But I have always looked at them and wondered why, just because I have the same reproductive system as they do, I’m supposed to feel any sort of solidarity or share their opinions. Because I don’t, never have, and never will.

    I LOVE free speech, and many times in my life it’s gotten me physically threatened due to my defense of it. Oh well. But that’s not really the worst part. What I hate about women is passive aggressiveness. The sly behind the hand whispering and cutting of eyes and how they let you know they’re talking shit about you but in a way that you can’t confront them and make them say it to your face.

    They want to mercilessly destroy the self esteem of any woman that doesn’t conform. The funniest part is that I’m married and my husband obviously loves and enjoys my company (the women in my hair salon are always dumbfounded but they’re not mean about it, probably because I’m paying), despite me not being gorgeous or wearing much, if any, makeup, and dressing like a modest but colorblind wizard. And the passel of children in tow, of course.

    They just don’t get it. I’m not a ball buster or a feminist or trying to prove anything. I’m just a wife and mother and a pathological nonconformist, mostly because what I see people conforming to, is insane, suicidal, evil and soul destroying. You’d think that they’d notice that they aren’t happy and maybe change their ways but no. They double down harder and wonder why a man doesn’t want them. Who can blame those men? My husband didn’t marry me because I have a job and make money. He didn’t want a roommate, he wanted a wife. And he got one.

    That’s what this all boils down to. Women are MISERABLE but cannot and will not admit it. They won’t admit that their “rights” and feminism have destroyed their happiness. So it will continue.

    I truly and unironically wish and pray that “the patriarchy” rises up and takes back control. Sisterhood is a lie and I want nothing to do with it. I want even less to do with the emasculated nanny state that it’s spawned. I want to see people smoke cigarettes in public, shoot guns, paint their houses purple, whatever. I love messy freedom and hardening the F up. Please men, stand up to these women. I try but what power do I have? Mostly I just blank them. Don’t even waste your time with trying to make me feel inferior, the only way to win that game is to not play.

    To paraphrase Sartre, “hell is other women”. I am tired of living in a Hell on earth. Make it stop!

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Sick of Orcs
  179. Sunshine says:
    @anonymous

    Agreed. I refuse to use their terminology and don’t consume their culture. I am a proud white woman, not a mush mouthed negro and I act like it. Dignity. A sadly ill understood concept in Black Worshipping America, along with modesty, hard work, virtue, self respect, temperance, chastity, and a long list of others.

    If you understand who you are and have a strong sense of self, you can resist all of the societal pressures. Why would any sane and intelligent person look around at the degenerates they see slouching around every city and town, and say “gee I wanna be like THAT!”? No thanks. I’d rather be a stone cold weirdo loner than be like “modern” Americans.

    But honestly I think the ability to truly think for yourself, is very rare. Perhaps it’s genetic.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @ricpic
    , @ThreeCranes
  180. SafeNow says:

    A young man these days will be hard-pressed to find what Inspector Morse called “the cuddlier qualities.” For example, I would include “fairmindedness”; i.e., relief from the unremitting subjectivity of testosterone-driven UNfairmindedness and wrongheaded competitiveness. Empathy. Compassion. Support. Good with sauces, as Ian Fleming said. And so on. It’s hard to know where to look. But I would certainly give a wide berth to a grievance-studies major.

  181. TKK says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    If you need never ending infusions of trillions of dollars from foreign entities, over many decades, to simply have potable water and minimal caloric intake when you are in possession of tremendous natural resources- how is this not a failed race?

    One can’t keep blaming colonization when Liberia and Ethiopia have never been such- and yet are chaotic, dystopian failed states.

    Africa’s main problem is western imperialism.

    China runs the show in Sub Sahara Africa, and Arabs run the North. And the Chinese detest the systemic African corruption to carry out the most trivial tasks, the blood feuds, the child rape, the HIV prevalence, the foreign aid that is funneled to dictator’s families to fund fleets of Range Rovers and Rolexes.

    That is the idea that African nations should aspire to become imitations of western society because westerners imagine themselves to be superior

    Can you state with a scintilla of credibility that you would prefer to live in Angola or DROC as opposed to Lucern, Berlin or even Miami?

    • Agree: Mark G.
  182. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Rurik

    Why? They’re happier alone.

    The only option is to force them down on to their knees at gunpoint and rape them.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    , @HammerJack
  183. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @anonymous

    There is no evidence that is happening.

  184. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Anon

    “Historically Slavic”? The Russian Far East and central Russia is where the central Asians and Chinese go. These areas were only recently colonized by Slavs.

  185. @AaronB

    The Woke succeeded partially by using the methods I am describing. Mockery only works on people who think you are one of them – the in-group. Otherwise mockery is easy to dismiss. No one cares about the mockery of people they completely disagree with and see as lunatics.

    So first you have to establish your credentials as part of the in-group by at least partially agreeing with them – then, at the right moment, mockery may have an effect.

    I can see the sense in this – but it does not mean that everyone has to use this strategy. You do not need to be a courtier to point out that the Emperor has no clothes – even a child can do it.

    If there are any grounds for optimism, they are that the general public is not in full agreement with the woke – at least on immigration and transgender issues. We are never going to change the minds of the journalists on the NYT, but we do not need to: we can appeal directly to the public, and for that purpose ridicule remains a powerful weapon, along with holding the woke to their own standards.

    There was a discussion at Dalrock about this a couple of years ago. A new female commenter had joined the blog, and suggested what we needed to do (like “tone it down”) if we wanted “manosphere” ideas to “gain traction”. I don’t remember the details of the discussion, but IIRC it concluded that we will never gain traction in the sense of overturning the Zeitgeist; but we can subvert it by giving men and women the facts about how society works.

  186. peterAUS says:
    @Sunshine

    Sensible comment(s).

    As for

    ….I’d rather be a stone cold weirdo loner than be like “modern” Americans.

    But honestly I think the ability to truly think for yourself, is very rare. Perhaps it’s genetic….

    that opens some possibilities and probabilities.

    The “managerial-therapeutic” state won’t tolerate that. In practical terms “loners” can be seen and paid “special” attention to with the current, and coming, tech and laws.

    I can, easily, see attempts to …ahm…help and educate….those loners in the near future.

    As for woman and a man thing it’s so simple it’s funny to see all this around.
    Of course, sensible people can’t really talk about that in places like this, for obvious reasons. But, it’s so basic, simple and actually hard-wired that it’s funny to watch all this.

    For the younger people around I’d really like to recommend
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Are_from_Mars,_Women_Are_from_Venus
    and mix it with a simple common sense.

    Free will, kids. Your life.

  187. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Gabbbard’s photos are usually doctored by the media.
    She is a trans sexual male to female. Dental arch, neck (signs of surgery to minimize adam’s apple), brow ridge, etc.

    • LOL: Liza
  188. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    Jewish men have always been narcissistic, wimpy, whiny mama’s boys who can’t fix a damn thing around the house; a high percentage are probably gay. After 5 decades of relentless indoctrination by taking control of our media and academia, the Jews have managed to turn most of our men Jewish. Witness all the worthless metrosexual millennial males with their man bags strapped across the chess who can’t even change a tire. More and more are now opting to be househusbands while their wives bring home the bacon, that’s if they’re not gay or trans to begin with.

    Picture the country getting attacked, the women are gonna have to be the ones to take up arms and protect these girly men. But hey, at least they are not infected with “toxic masculinity”.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  189. Liza says:

    Women would have spent much of their adult life incapacitated in the home, pregnant or caring for small children.

    Apparently, the women were not always all by themselves in the home. Yes, I imagine that at times they were, but they also spent time together with other women doing various useful things. Sitting around and gabbing all the while, too. It is still this way in the hunter-gatherer areas of the world, at least from a video I saw, made about 40 years ago by a travelling anthropologist. A woman stuck with kids in her house, “incapacitated”, is very much a modern civilized situation.

    Mind you, I preferred my life stuck in my home with my offspring. It is not all as bad as they say. Depends on the personality of the woman involved. I guess if you have half a dozen children, it can be challenging, though. There’s no perfect life. With my unpopular opinions on so many things, it is just as well that I wasn’t surrounded by a bunch of other women who had “other ideas”.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
  190. peterAUS says:
    @Liza

    ….I preferred my life stuck in my home with my offspring….

    Imagine that. A mother, preferring spending her day in her home, with her children to being in traffic, workplace, traffic back.
    Workplace as it is: more and more work in harder and harder conditions for less pay.

    Crazy.
    The modern world and most people who live in it.

    True, takes, literally, two to tango.
    A woman in the above position was, is, vulnerable to a character divorcing her later on. A successful man finding a more attractive woman.

    I wouldn’t put all the blame on women and “progtards” here. There was plenty to blame on men in “my time”. The long-gone time when a man was able to provide for a family. Smart man, that is.

    There was a thing in those days people like me do remember. Like Cold War etc.

    A young couple gets married. A man can, materially, provide for a small family. A woman takes care of home and kids.
    Problem: the man rises in positioin, career, social power. That changes a man.
    The woman stays at home. That changes her too. Can’t, say, compete, with all those women the man is constantly in contact with.
    Say, the man becomes a mid/senior manager. The woman stays a housewife. The couple loses that connection.
    He dumps her. Now what? From a woman’s perspective, that is. A housewife in mid-thirties.
    The social protection did serve, then and there, to protect such women.
    It got crazy, as most of common sense things today; I am just…hehe …as a man, pointing to some issues here.

    Of course, as most topics in this pub, we here can’t even begin to find a proper solution.
    My take is, again, simple: two to tango. 50/50. Work, sacrifice. Smarts from both sides. Love. Hehe..romance and sex too.

    Anyway.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  191. Miro23 says:
    @Sunshine

    That’s what this all boils down to. Women are MISERABLE but cannot and will not admit it. They won’t admit that their “rights” and feminism have destroyed their happiness. So it will continue.

    It’s an interesting commentary, and women in men’s roles looks like a losing formula.

    Combining a successful career with homemaking and family is hard work – there’s stress, complications, lack of time, so homemaking and family are delayed or never happen.

    Also, career women take men’s jobs. If the surplus men are required to become homemakers and child carers, then on balance, they’re probably not going to marry the career lady – and look for a more normal relationship elsewhere.

    There’s also the difficulty of finding the right man. Career women apparently have a strong preference for alpha males, when 1) there aren’t many of them around 2) alpha males probably want a comfortable home life away from work.

    Basically feminism, careerism, “rights” and workplace equality looks like a disaster for women.

  192. @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh the irony,… here you are, reinforcing the title of this article.
    It’s males like you, who should just shut up and go away, because you’re reinforcing the perception that males are dumb, ignorant and think with their dicks.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  193. It’s wonderful to be a white man in a majority brown population of beautiful young Filipinas.

    They would be dumbfounded if I acted like a soy boy cuck.

    The crazy thing is the women back home soiling themselves explaining why those little hotties don’t really love me and that I couldn’t handle the “independence” of “strong”, fat, ugly, and loud-mouthed feminists.

    So I gave up and settled for a wife, mistresses, and girlfriends 30-40 years younger than me. All stunners. All beside themselves to make me happy.

    • Replies: @Sunshine
    , @Daniel Rich
  194. Said this before, but Anglo-Celts and other north-eastern Europeans should look towards more ancient cultures like the Hellenes/Romaioi (perhaps better known as Greeks to average Americans) where post-Enlightenment values have made less inroads on how male-female and family relations should be structured. For example, there are typically higher levels of machismo, women are encouraged to be beautiful but somewhat untouchable, respect for the father as the final decision-maker, clearly delineated roles, inter-generational respect and living (grandparents play an very important role), the mother runs the household etc. Of course, post-Enlightenment values are also making inroads into this ancient family arrangement.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  195. @Observator

    I do believe that increasing the labor pool benefits the capitalists, sir.

  196. ricpic says:
    @Harbinger

    Where were their parents when they were growing up telling them that a woman’s window is tiny and closes quickly? The object of male desire from teens through mid-twenties and then BLAM! closed. The Wall for almost all BEFORE thirty. Why wasn’t this hammered into their heads by Mom, Dad, BOTH?!

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  197. Harbinger says:

    On the concept of the word ‘woke’ the left has done a great job of hijacking it. ‘Woke’ from ‘awake’ has exactly the opposite meaning to the ‘red pill/Matrix/rabbit hole’ meaning. Instead of one who knows what’s going on such as the power structures of globalists, Jews, illuminati, freemasons etc, today the word woke depicts one who’s on board with everything the aforementioned are meaning.
    Just as the homosexuals hijacked the word ‘gay’, the blacks with the word ‘nigger’ so too have the left hijacked ‘awake’.

    Control of words and changing of definitions is how you completely destroy a society. And they’re doing an exceptionally good job of it.

  198. ricpic says:
    @Sunshine

    I’m a “stone cold wierdo loner” and am honestly pretty happy much of the time. Well, I don’t think the weirdo part fits me…..but who knows?

  199. 76239 says:
    @WorkingClass

    “Yet regulation is good for competition.”

    Regulation is used by large firms to keep out upstarts and small firms. Large firms have more money for lawyers and bribes for politicians to shape the nature of regulation than small firms. The SEC will go after Martha Stewart, never Goldman Sachs. Its called regulatory capture

    Competition is stronger in free societies. Regulation is for the cronies and oligarchs.

  200. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    As sweeping as it sounds, I find most female attorneys to be mentally ill.

    I work with 100 percent women almost all of the time.

    Any random sample of professional women will be comprised of the following in my significant experience:

    40% legit mental illness that has them constantly neurotic, vindictive over nothing, and low self esteem (feeds into the first two). These women tend to form packs and are passive aggressively destructive in regard to anyone that they target, often for seemingly arbitrary reasons (one doesn’t like you because reasons, you are a better workplace performer than they are, etc).

    10% cool . Implies a non-neurotic mental state or a well hidden, mild mental illness combined with an affable personality. These women tend to avoid the first group entirely. They are often loners or close to it. Some are surprisingly good looking and are a good hang if you end up out with them.

    10% straddling the first two. Slightly lower self esteem, hence they will buddy up with the “popular” (among themselves and their poor boyfriends) psychos, and then migrate away, and yet otherwise cool enough.

    40% wallflower or outgoing nerd-ish type. You barely notice the wallflowers and the others require some finesse to befriend (but can be worth it). I wouldn’t call them cool as a group, as a lot of them aren’t super friendly, but at least they aren’t outwardly terrible. Some are fine people and can be fun, if quirky. Some of the quieter ones can be brought out of their shells, but I wouldn’t recommend that effort today as they can be hard to trust. Many will hang out on the edges of the psycho group, others will keep to themselves or gain other out-group friends.

    The first 40% will run the workplace, absent a practiced mother hen with real authority, and make it undesirable for everyone else. If you fall in their cross-hairs and don’t escape them, brace for eventual impact. One way to avoid it is to ignore them (be sure to smile and say “hi” and leave it at that) and build social capital with the other 60 percent of women. These cowards instinctively give space to people with other social capital, but will attack socially vulnerable individuals.

  201. HEREDOT says:
    @Harbinger

    wonderful commentary spectacular sociological observation.

  202. Harbinger says:
    @ricpic

    “Where were their parents when they were growing up telling them that a woman’s window is tiny and closes quickly? The object of male desire from teens through mid-twenties and then BLAM! closed. The Wall for almost all BEFORE thirty. Why wasn’t this hammered into their heads by Mom, Dad, BOTH?!”

    Well, I think firstly we have to think about what generation. Certainly the post war parents were no doubt telling their daughters precisely this, warning them of their sexual market value, diminishing rapidly as they hit their 30’s. However, remember that it was those 18 year olds who went to universities, to be brainwashed by the feminists back then who started the ball rolling. So technically, the generation born from those 18 year olds in the 60’s, the generation ‘x’ (my generation) were the women told that there was no time window and they could do whatever they wanted.
    Indoctrination, as you know, is an incredibly powerful tool. It is my generation, those women in their late 40’s who see life having passed them by, lonely, childless and single, invisible to most men. This is why they all go out, dressed as 20 year olds, flashing their breasts, wearing skirts with thongs visible. They’re offering sex up on a plate, to any male who’ll have them, hoping for a relationship, but the only thing they bring to the table is their vagina and of course the headache of constant complaining, a truckload of baggage, skeletons in the closet and misery.

    12 years now I’ve been single since I was 36. I’ve had one sexual experience in that time, 6 years ago and that was a mistake. I see nothing attractive about women today, nothing at all. If they’re in their twenties (and yes I get hit on by them) they’re totally dead in the head, completely indoctrinated, left wing, pro mutliculturalism, multiracialism, LGBTQ…. mass immigration etc etc. If they’re in their 30’s they’re certainly single mothers and pretty much the same beliefs as those in their twenties. If they’re in their 40’s they’re probably grandmothers. The dating game is just closed to me now. It’s sad. All I ever wanted was a wife, children and to look after them as a loving father. That’s never going to happen because I do not trust women, one bit. I’ve seen too many friends dragged through the courts, their lives destroyed by ex wives, along with their families. A few have committed suicide too. Horrible. Absolutely horrible.

    But I digress……feminism sold women the lie that they could do anything. They can’t. Were women to take over society it would collapse. It is collapsing. Women are not meant to lead. They’re incapable of doing so. They have been taught to chase a career, compete with men and because of it, we see the natural man haters, the lesbians, become prominent within society taking positions in establishments, formerly closed to all homosexuals. And with the man hating of the lesbians, the power they have, society becomes far more authoritarian. Great for the homosexuals and a nightmare for the heterosexuals.

    You won’t be able to reverse the indoctrination of women. As I write, a friend’s ex (pushing 40) was raped at a party. So she says. The story, however paints a contrary picture. It’s going to go to court and my belief is that she cried rape because she knew that it would cause a problem with her now ex, that she was kissing cuddling and from what I heard had performed oral sex. Thankfully the man in question hasn’t been set upon by ‘associates’. I have had a few friends who have been dragged through the courts on rape charges, only for the case to be eventually dismissed after the females confess to lying. This is now a regular occurrence. Women in the US talk about the growing ‘rape’ culture, when what they’re really saying is ‘more women are consenting to sex but changing their minds after the event’.

    Women have lost the plot. Most women today offer men nothing, other than sex. And men are terrified of not only losing everything in a divorce court, access to their children if they have any, but also being accused of false rape, sexual assault/harassment in the workplace destroying their careers and catching super strain STD’s. The gap between men and women is truly, truly increasing, as was the plan and this has only happened because Jews have given women power and influence within society over men. Society has collapsed. I couldn’t imagine, living with a woman today. All I ever hear are horror stories from friends and their relationships, of constant arguments, physical fights, arrests, divorces, child restriction……the list goes on and on.
    I am not alone in how I think. As stated MGTOW philosophy is growing and more and more men are leaving the plantation. We are sure to see a rise in the lesbian population.

    • Agree: jim jones, Kiel
    • Replies: @Backwoods Bob
  203. @Liza

    It takes women four to five years to take care of her two children. In the mean time she can study and educate herself in the subject she is interest in. After five years she is free to do whatever she wants to.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  204. @Sam Coulton

    Wow fucking wow… Did I just read that???

    • Replies: @Anatman
  205. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Uh, no. 2 children is not even remotely acceptable and women are never free to do anything they want to do.

  206. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Agathoklis

    Why? Anglo-celts and northwestern Europeans have the highest fertility of any white or Asian people in the developed world. It’s southern Europeans who are cucked to extinction, particularly southeastern Europeans.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  207. The PRC and Russia are not insane like the West. They are expected to dominate the world soon. We will know why.

  208. Sunshine says:
    @Backwoods Bob

    You know and they know, that they don’t love you. It’s purely transactional, you exchange your money for their companionship. I don’t blame you, Western women are pretty awful, but why pretend otherwise?

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  209. renfro says:

    Today, the European Commission has a stated objective of having at least 40% female managers, an objective that can only be reached by systematically discriminating against men in promotions. The EU wants to impose a similar legal quota for publicly-traded European companies, to have 40% women on all corporate boards.

    Crazy. I guess along with Affirmative Action half of the 40% female will have to be black female if adopted in the US.

    How insane is it to hire or appoint people according to their sex, color,ethnic, minority status…….this guarantees a fucking incompetent mess as if most companies we deal with aren’t already incompetent.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  210. @Harbinger

    Apparently, you’ve never been off the farm.

    For the last few decades I’ve been doing a lot of foreign travel and living.

    It never gets old being a rock star. I’m 61. My wife is 31, weighs 97 pounds, and beautiful. She knocks herself out for me and the boys every day.

    My last mistress was 19. The wife interviews them, she is their boss. That one just couldn’t handle the jealousy over the wife and we fired her for insolence.

    But generally, the model works out pretty damned well. There is a very long history of major/minor wives in Asia or as the English preferred to call it… the wife/mistress model.

    What they have to offer is adulation, maid, cook, bedroom tiger, and someone who is always looking out after you. Assigning her family to various security and support roles.

    It’s great to be the King.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Anon
    , @Corvinus
  211. Anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    But where are the subtle, adaptive, intelligent people on the alt-right? Why are there – as of yet – so few? Why are they so stupid?

    By definition, if they were subtle and effective in the manner that you describe then they would be untouched by the immune system of the the Left and therefore largely undetectable by the millions of Jewish narcissists who over-estimate their cleverness.

  212. @renfro

    It would be interesting to watch a team of women out building and repairing infrastructure. Roads, bridges, communication towers, railways, scaling (clearing boulders on rock walls on road and track ways). The tunneling and underground substructures. Poweline workers!!. Where are the female tower crane operators?

    I’m still waiting for a woman to win the Indy 500.

    I love women.. I do not like todays “woman”. The sophristry is too deep. The virtue signalling is out there.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  213. Skeptikal says:
    @Svevlad

    WTF does “do the USSR on the now fully female ones” mean?

    My impression, from afar, but do occasionally watch “Sunday Evening” and other news programs when linked with subtitles, is that Russian women are strong, and Russian men are stronger.

  214. @Harbinger

    The key factor common to both today’s West and the “mouse utopia” experiment is/was lack of scarcity. All essential needs were fulfilled. There was no struggle for food or warm bedding–just a shortage of real estate.

    In a culture in which people do not rub up against pain and death there is no push back that would limit their idiocy and insanity. So comfortable, coddled women today are functionally deluded. They have no clue as to the where, why, how or who which provides their hot and cold clean running water, the heat and air conditioning, the paved streets, the electricity that lights their homes and streets. And what’s more, they don’t care. They simply take for granted that it will always be there, irrespective of their actions.

    The oblivious on the road to obliteration.

    • Agree: bruce county
  215. @peterAUS

    Ah the things modern people worry about. I’d say that for much of history it was on women to look after the household and kids as well as work the fields and do other menial jobs. The man would help if he was around but his job was primarily just to impregnate the woman and await the king’s call to go to war, probably never to come back to his home and family, and if surviving battles maybe even settling down with some other woman in a far away conquered land. People have just become so soft and spoilt, and the women far too demanding. Men leaving women – I’d say that’s probably what used to mostly happen. And it wasn’t up to anyone, the men just got marched off and most were enthusiastic about it.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  216. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Sunshine

    Tbe divorce rate says otherwise. It’s not transactional.

  217. Skeptikal says:
    @Twodees Partain

    “Parents of kids with marginal academic intellect and who are a bit aimless need to point them away from college and toward the trades, civil, electrical, water, construction. They’re going to have to learn how to work hard again. ”

    I agree with this, except that the “marginal academic . . . aimless” part in my view can be deleted. The trades require a good bit of intelligence and training. Having had my house completely rewired I have the greatest respect for the know-how of a master electrician. Give me a smart, trained, experienced electrician, not a young stupid, poorly trained one. I am unaware of any femail electricians. I have no idea why this should be so, but it might have something to do with a certain type of teamwork that is needed, and hierarchy on the team. When it comes to plumbers, again, I am unaware of of any female plumbers. Which is odd becuase most plumbers work alone, and plumbing generally does not require a lot of strength. Furthermore, there are plenty of women artists who perform heavy work with their materials, for example, sculptors or painters of large canvases.

    There used to be a social ideal for men that they were good athletes, good in an emergency, and also intelligent and educated. The analog of “a lady in the living room and a whore in the bedroom” is “a gentleman in dealing with others and does not let anyone kick sand in his face.”

    Our operative views of what “masculinity” and “femininity” are are still narrow, despite the gender bending of recent years. For example, it is silly to assign “nurturing’ behavior to females. Many “strong” men are nurturing and gentle. And many women are markedly competitive and lack compassion. Furthermore, these narrow distributions of characteristics don’t seem to leave much space for individual combinations of the various qualities—strengths and weaknesses—that together make up a personality.

    My own experience is that men are better at bonding through physical activity/work/sports etc. Women are more likely to bond over exchanging experiences of motherhood. If they are intelligent and inquisitive they will find that motherhood gives them plenty of raw material for deep thinking. not so sure about the same with men and sports.

    It is pretty difficult to find anyone of either sex to have a truly interesting discussion with. They all just “read” their smartphones 24/7. That is the biggest problem of all!

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    , @Daniel Rich
  218. Harbinger says:
    @Backwoods Bob

    You state:

    “Apparently, you’ve never been off the farm.”

    You obviously missed the part when I stated:

    “12 years now I’ve been single since I was 36. I’ve had one sexual experience in that time, 6 years ago and that was a mistake.”

    And then state:

    “My wife….”

    You clearly fail to understand the concept of ‘farm/plantation’ within the men who are awake. For your information, it is those who are married that are living on the farm/plantation.

    “It never gets old being a rock star. I’m 61. My wife is 31, weighs 97 pounds, and beautiful………My last mistress was 19. The wife interviews them, she is their boss.”

    So you’re into ‘open relationships’ all the rage in the west today. Clearly you and your wife not only don’t have respect for yourselves but for each other. The thought of being in a relationship with someone, who’s having sex with another, clearly turns my stomach.

    “It’s great to be the King.”

    I wouldn’t really call you a king.
    We rose above polygamous relationships in the west. You’ve decided to leave the west, immerse yourself in a foreign culture and have sex with as many younger women as you possibly can. You’ve run away, something I would never do. My brother ran away and is in pretty much the same position as you are. I don’t agree with it.
    It’s something I would never do, simply because I don’t view women as masturbatory aids as you clearly do and having relationships with Eastern women is not going to solve the rapidly declining European peoples’ population.

    • Agree: Sunshine
  219. Skeptikal says:
    @bruce county

    The picture of women competing with men and men competing with women is pathetic.

    Some women are physically strong and take pride in being able to do physical labor.
    They are pleased if a man will share know-how.
    But many men assume that women are not interested in such know-how.
    Or, they do not want to share it.

  220. AaronB: “And today, thinkers like Vox Day and Bruce Charlton simply make out of Christianity whatever they want.”

    That which can be made to mean anything actually means nothing. This illustrates perfectly the meaningless nature of religion.

    AaronB: “So too with modern trends – submit and go along with them, and then you will be able to influence the current – eventually, perhaps, completely renaming it.”

    Going along with extinction, hoping to influence it “later”, after it’s over? Somehow, that doesn’t sound like a good plan.

    Durocher pretends to be concerned about “big mother”, and yet studiously manages to overlook that feminism would not be possible were it not for the technological “advances” of scientific birth control and abortion and their widespread availability in the modern world. Remove that availability, and the problems presented by it would vanish. So much should be obvious.

    Why not remove it then? You’ll be told it can’t be done, and not least it’s because white people themselves don’t want it removed. They want to enjoy the benefits it brings, but a sizeable minority don’t want the consequence, which is the liberation of women from childbearing and the home; or put another way, women’s empowerment. Here again we see the childish desire to enjoy a benefit of technological “progress” without cost. Here again we see the dual nature of technology; how each “advance” generates new problems, side effects that, in this case and many others, are so much a part of the main effect that they can’t be separated from it. You know, it turns out that to give women control over their own fertility liberates them! What a fuckin’ surprise! Boy, we sure didn’t see that one coming!

    Actually though, I probably shouldn’t make fun, since people at the time such “advances” were being introduced actually didn’t see it coming. They didn’t foresee that such technology included within itself the destruction of the family, decline of patriarchy, and a radical re-ordering of the workforce. They didn’t foresee the culture of free sexual experimentation that would develop and trammel into the dirt all the existing social mores. If they had, they would have to have been quite mad to accept such “progress”.

    Because such problems result from technology, we can expect our situation to incrementally worsen with each new “advance”. It’s only rational to think these kinds of existential crises will continue for as long as the technological system exists. Realizing this, we have a choice. Either oppose the system and act to bring it down, or accept extinction.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  221. S says:

    Women, particularly left-wing women, are more politically intolerant: one survey found that 30% of Democratic women had blocked, unfriended or stopped following someone online for their politics, as against only 8% of Republican men.

    Reading that I couldn’t help but be reminded of Orwell. [The title of your article is entirely appropriate.]

    ‘It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.’

    And again, the ever prescient Orwell, is right on target when his writing is applied to the present day near complete refusal to acknowledge differences between the two sexes.

    ‘What can you do, thought Winston, against the lunatic who is more intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then simply persists in his lunacy?’

  222. Fewer and Fewer “ Men” or “ Women”, by any ‘definition’ are available to reliably operate commercial aircraft.

  223. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Well….true.

    But, for this very topic, I’d rely on own experience.

    A good man, in “my time” was able to provide for a family. Yes, “women to look after the household and kids” because a guy like me (military…..) wouldn’t be at home, most of the time. Hehe…I was able to get back home, though, obviously. A lot of guys like me (back). Some didn’t, sometimes. Risks of the trade.
    Similar would be applied to a lot of men, actually, not just in service. Most of the guys from my primary/secondary school who didn’t go my path (civilians….) had very similar setups.

    I’d take my “allowance” only and the bulk of my pay would be managed by my wife. Always. And…hehe…the allowance was decided together. A man doesn’t need much when in the unit. Smart man, that is.

    When I left the service and switched to “civvy street” I kept the same setup. Always.
    Even now, as we speak.

    Division of labor. The fundamental thing in humans.
    A woman is better in some things. I believe it’s home, (little) kids and money. Just me.
    Man is better is a lot of others.
    Teamwork. Eternal in genders. Ahm, it was for, what, 50 000 years. Not anymore, obviously.

    I drive to shopping and back. She buys the stuff. I carry stuff from the car into the house. She makes meals.I wash car(s). Do lawnmowing. Etc…..etc…..

    We operate in exactly the same way as when we met. More than 30 years now and through some quite challenging times. Not once any need for any…any….advice…from anybody.
    No secret there. Woman does her thing; man does his. Together.

    We often comment on topics as in the article. As…”what’s wrong with all these people? Why are they complicating so simple things?”

    I wrote, ages ago, here, about this:
    We went hiking. Came across a bunch of youngsters. They were courteous enough to invite us to join; we did tell them it would affect their speed….Anyway. There were plenty of tricky parts along the track. On each of them, as always, I’d stop and help my wife negotiate it.
    Now….there was a single girl (good looking blonde) and two handsome young single males in that group. The girl was struggling. Not once any of those two males tried to help her. Not….. once.
    It was actually me, once, helping her to get up after a rather nasty fall in the mud.
    C…..r……a……..z…….y.

    Honestly, gave up getting it. To each…free will etc.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Miro23
  224. @Andrei Martyanov

    Add to that volatile mix the [often not so] subtle militarization of society, where heavily armed brownshirts run down streets, alleys and kick in doors, are a normal fixture in various series on TV [Talmud Vision – TM geokat] and it’s quite obvious where this society’s heading; a moral and financial abyss.

    [link is to Consortium News]

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  225. Shaman911 says:

    Throughout “what were told is history” if you look at the insurrections, scandals, political upheavals, destruction of empires. Most of them involved in one way or another a (Woman). The female sex through mythological stories and religious ideologies of every culture evolve around the same format.
    Evan ate the apple and the world has gone to shit and evils reigns supreme. In that context, women are the bearers of hell and damnation. Breeding platforms for life forms to enter the nether lands of a delusional apathetic existence.
    Ever notice your Apple lap top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    There is a bite out of the Apple! It’s a message, symbol, and forecast for you’re continued enslavement.
    Survey’s, charts, reports are all just illusions.
    This game has been played forever in one way or another from the caves to the boardrooms.
    Everyone involved with this on ether side is a Freemason. (Ordo Ab Chao)

  226. @Sam Coulton

    Rubbish. The high fertility in these Anglo and northwestern European countries comes from immigrant groups.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  227. AaronB says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Going along with extinction, hoping to influence it “later”, after it’s over? Somehow, that doesn’t sound like a good plan.

    Why not? Just as Christians were carrying out Jesus’s command to turn the other cheek and give no thought for the morrow by trying to conquer everything in sight and developing protestant virtues of thrift and hard work, so to you can set about the extermination of white people by promoting a high birthrate and white communities.

    That is how things work in this world. Official narratives must be respected but not necessarily followed.

  228. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harbinger

    The sad reality is that Men are Going Their Own Way today.

    Are they turning gay or just having sex with robots?

  229. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Backwoods Bob

    Degenerate running an opium den and a harem in SEA. We get it.

    Seen too many western male degenerates do this kind of shit in SEA. Some even import them back to the US and continue with the lifestyle. Sad and pathetic.

  230. @Backwoods Bob

    So I gave up and settled for a wife, mistresses, and girlfriends 30-40 years younger than me. All stunners. All beside themselves to make me happy.

    This message is sponsored by Viagra.

    :o]

    I once read [somewhere] if/when a man likes Asian women [like I do], it’s because I’m actually a closet pedophile…

    I relayed this message to my [Japanese] wife, who simply laughed her head off.

    Carpe Diem, my friend.

  231. SafeNow says:
    @Skeptikal

    “pretty difficult to find anyone of either sex to have a truly interesting discussion with…smartphones..that is the biggest problem”

    I totally agree. Well, there’s always this website!
    My thoughts turn to the Conrad short story, “The Tale.” The wife says to the husband, “Tell me a tale.” (and he does, a long one. she listens, interested) Imagine that. What a wife.

  232. @Skeptikal

    There used to be a social ideal for men that they were good athletes, good in an emergency, and also intelligent and educated. The analog of “a lady in the living room and a whore in the bedroom” is “a gentleman in dealing with others and does not let anyone kick sand in his face.”

    Who introduced the concept of ‘We’re all winners?’

    Gold medal goes to no.1. Not 2 or 3 or 12.

    My guess is, therefore, it was coughed up by a bunch of sore and sour losers.

    Who lacks the physical capacity to stand tall and strong?

    Is that why so many flicks rely heavily on CG, so ‘we’ can be larger than life and overcome ‘our’ shortcomings?

  233. Alex says:

    My experiences in the field of IT show that a lot of the initiatives in favor of minorities end up being facades. The federal government requires that for any IT project paid for with federal funding, recipients (usually states or cities) spent 20% of the amount of the contract on minorities.

    So way things work is that the states or municipalities use staffing agencies which are minority-owned (usually Indians) and these agencies then hire people like me under their umbrella to go work on these contracts.

    In the end, I end up getting paid with money earmarked for minority funding and everybody is happy. I am sure things works similarly in other industries.

    Like everything else the feds do, it’s all smoke and mirrors….

  234. @AaronB

    You’re speaking pure idiocy, as usual. Do not talk about Christianity. To be Christian is to do precisely the opposite of what you say you Jew. ‘Be in the world but not of it’.

    Confrontation and resistance has never succeeded? Apart from every revolution of the twentieth century.

    People are already self-censoring for the benefit of Jews and Jewish proxies and partners. That won’t last.

    The Alt-Right are inevitable.

  235. @AaronB

    You’re talking about inversion – a basic Talmudic and Satanic principle. We already live in an inverted society where words mean their opposite.

    Christianity was about proselytization. Why would you want souls to be left unconverted and condemned to hell?

    Christians simply weren’t prepared against the wolves in sheeps clothing – as outlined in Hillaire Bellocs’ ‘The Jews’. Jewish finance married European property and nobility, created the Federal Reserve system, obtained monopoly on everything and hence you have the Satanic pedophile Jewish elite of today.

    The mistake early Christians made was not proselytising enough, and brutally enough – imposing the same kind of censorship that they now face from Globohomo. Christians were too willing to pretend that inferior religions and totally inferior peoples were equal on the basis of universalism and charity. That mistake has been deadly and very likely won’t be made again.

    Globohomo has proven free speech to be a sham. So now, when Christians retake power, there will be renewed glorious blasphemy laws. If I can’t say that gays are pedophiles, if these faggots take God’s name in vain, they can lose everything – just like I can lose everything like Israel Folau for saying what the Bible says, rightfully, about homosexuals and the destruction they wreak on societies. The left have sowed the wind – they will eventually reap the whirlwhind.

    Your views on Christianity are absolutely retarded.

    What you are going to have is a militant white minority that behaves exactly like the Jews – except their persecution will be real, instead of fake.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  236. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Agathoklis

    No, I’m afraid you’re rubbish. Ethnic northwestern Europeans in Ireland, Scandinavia and Iceland really do have higher fertility. Although the fertility of immigrants in Sweden, for example, is much higher than that of ethnic Swedes, ethnic Swedes still have a higher average fertility rate (1.6) than southeastern Europeans (0.9-1.3).

    The highest native fertility rate in Europe is Iceland and Denmark at 1.8 and 1.7, respectively.
    For comparison, Greek fertility is at 1.

    And then we have nation-size populations in the USA such as Mormons and Amish/Mennonites, with fertility rates of over 3 children per woman. They are primarily of West Germanic and English extraction.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
    , @Miro23
  237. @AaronB

    So here is what Aaron says you should do, vai subtle modification.

    – Eat bugs for ‘climate change’
    – Eat human beings for ‘climate change’
    – Allow burgeoning homosexuality that inevitably and irrevocably advances to pedophilia.
    – Falsificaiton of history
    – Falsification of science
    – Falsification of gender
    – Falsification of art
    – Falsification or censorship of social science reporting, i.e. crime rates
    – Destruction of what remains of academic disciplines.
    – Allow all the Churches of Europe to be defiled and turned into Mosques
    – Allow all insignia or artifacts like statutes that can be accused of ‘whiteness’ by Jews to be destroyed and torn down
    – Allow the continued ruination of economies via mass theft via fake programs
    – Allow the continuing destruction of the education of children – that latest NAEP report cards show only one third of children in the US can read proficiently. The encroachment of Nogs and Mexicas into the teaching and the Jewish perversion and subversion of pedagogy is creating a literal slave population of inchoate sub-humans.
    – Allow your children to be transgendered and have their genitals and being destroyed and be arrested if you say anything about it.
    – Allow the destruction of all western freedoms
    – Allow the Islamisation of your country.

    In short, the complete destruction of race, religion, nation and family.

    Just be subtle about it goy – just be clever in how you cooperate with this agenda.

    It isn’t going to happen Aaron. Whole populations are going to be removed from the West.

  238. Corvinus says:

    “The truth is that Western civilization has been steadily feminizing for at least the last two centuries. The decline of men has become a topic of conversation on the outer edges of the mainstream media. Men’s decline has been at once biological, economic, social, and moral.”

    That would be Fake News.

  239. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “So now, when Christians retake power, there will be renewed glorious blasphemy laws.”

    So how are you exactly going to make this happen?

    “Christians were too willing to pretend that inferior religions and totally inferior peoples were equal on the basis of universalism and charity. That mistake has been deadly and very likely won’t be made again.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
    , @Flint Clint
  240. Corvinus says:
    @Backwoods Bob

    “It never gets old being a rock star. I’m 61. My wife is 31, weighs 97 pounds, and beautiful. She knocks herself out for me and the boys every day.”

    Anyone can say anything on the Internet. Most likely you are other than being accurate with your description of your “lifestyle”.

  241. @Corvinus

    It’s true it sounds like idle talk.

    I’m just making some assumptions. They could be wrong. There is quite possibly no limit to the suffering that white people will endure just so long as they can avoid being called racist by Jews. I’m assuming that you’re a Boomer. This probably all sounds wild to you.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/creating-the-white-tribe/

    Read the comments. Younger white men understand.

    The persecution of whites is never going to stop – and it’s eventually going to break the dissonances.

    When standards of living continue to crater and civics continue to degenerate because only whites are capable of universalism, mindsets will change.

    We are now moving into a phase of quite open hypocrisy and persecution.

    The largest movement of peoples in the history of the world is going to be accompanied by conflict. It’s absolutely inevitable.

    The only question is what form it’s going to take and how popularised it’s going to be.

    “For the present, it would be going too far to say that the refugees, as well as those who are responsible for their plight back in their homelands, are actively waging war against the West. They lack the leadership and organization required for the effective, large-scale violence that war entails. However, it must be recognized that more than a few in their midst are not averse to using violence in order to achieve their aims. They have, after all, invaded numerous countries without regard for the will of the people of those countries, and their presence is no less likely to spark resistance than the armed invasions of the past. Since war, as Clausewitz teaches, has a built-in tendency to escalate, the resistance can be expected to graduate into all-out armed conflict over time. Especially, as seems likely, if the influx continues and all the valiant efforts at integration prove futile.
    – Martin van Creveld, “War and Migration”, There Will Be War Vol. X”

    There is going to be war waged across the entire western hemisphere. And all these weak people will become strong, because they will have no choice.

    Cuckservative faggots are going to have to learn the hard way. This has never been a battle of ideas. This is open war on the western way of life, and it ends with their eradication and enslavement.

    It’s just remarkable to see the Cuckservatives continue to engage in the most cretinous make-believe.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/germans-are-leaving-germany-droves

    The invaders don’t want to assimilate or integrate or do anything except what they want to do. Which is marry their cousins and destroy everything they touch.

    And in the case of our higher IQ conquerors from Asia the sub-continent, and Israel, they just want to leverage the west and suck it dry and form within it sub-nations that are laws unto themselves, whilst paying contemptuous and purely nominal adherence to western norms.

    The West has been sucked dry. The US debt is calamitous and dependent on dollar reserve status and in Germany they have to pay the banks to hold their money. We’ve been sucked dry by foreign nations using fake programs at the top end and taking welfare at the bottom end – this is a simulacrum of a economy. When the gibs stop flowing Boomer, I hope you’re living amongst your own.

    Anyway, we will see.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  242. AO says:

    Fornication is justification, citizen.

    Says the fishspeaker in a pink crochet pussy hat, at least.

    So, how ’bout them daughters of Megalia, eh?

  243. @Sam Coulton

    Greek fertility is currently around 1.3 and has been a problem for a while. However, the examples you refer to are hardly representative of Anglo-Celtic culture i.e. a few isolated religious populations in the United States and high tax/high welfare Scandinavian countries. The rank and file Anglo-Celts gave the game away in the mid-1960s by taking modernity seriously. Women became wholly independent, families broke down, fathers were disrespected, sons and daughters became feminine and masculine respectively, family and ancestral history was mocked. Today, Greeks are well on the way but divorce, children born out of wedlock, support for gay marriage, ethnophobia, support for globalisation are still some of the lowest in the western world; however, Anglo-Celts and other north-western Europeans adopted post-Enlightenment values earlier and are now reaping the sad rewards.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  244. @Corvinus

    “War and migration have always been closely related. The relationship was recorded as early as 1300 BC, when we are informed the Israelites followed Moses out of Egypt to embark upon the enterprise that ultimately led them to the Promised Land of Canaan. As you will no doubt recall, they promptly conquered it. And since that time, for over 3,315 years, the link between war and the large-scale movement of people from one place to another has never been broken….

    At some times, war and migration were essentially the same, as in the great migration of peoples during the first few centuries after Christ, the Arab expansion after 632 AD, the Magyar invasion of Europe, the Mongol invasions of China, and the movements of many African tribes from one part of the continent to another. At other times, the relationships between the two phenomena were more complicated, such as ethnic cleansings that rendered war unnecessary or took place after war’s end, mass avoidance of conscription, or soldiers bringing home concubines and war brides. All these various forms have often intermingled, all appear regularly in the annals of human history, and all will doubtless continue to do so in the future. The only thing that changes is their relative importance at any given point in time.”

    The “proposition nation” devotees have much for which to answer. They served as the intellectual beachhead that permitted this mass invasion to proceed without resistance. It should be obvious, now that the lie that being a “German” or an “Englishman” is also a proposition has been broadly broadcast to the masses, that the claim of the “American” nation being intrinsically propositional was always entirely false.

    But don’t despair. Things always look grim for the defenders in the early days. The Europeans, on both continents, have, quite literally, not yet begun to fight

    There is no proposition nation, boomer.

    There is no ‘multi-culturalism’.

    Let see what happens. Lets see if the entire course of human history outweighs boomers retarded ideas about proposition nations, and fake melting pots, and fake multiculturalism, and fake everything.

    Europeans will keep engaging in white flight a bit longer until they realise there is nowhere left to run. Then they’ll fight.

    White women will be the catalyst. They are going to find out that opening their legs to invading tribes will only go so far. They are getting the white man treatment – and they are going to find out what happens to feminists in around 2030 – which coincidentally is about how long the US has left before it breaks up.

  245. Why is the author referencing Daily Stormer? Isn’t it widely considered to be fake Controlled Opposition?

  246. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:
    @Agathoklis

    Everywhere in England, Ireland and Scotland has higher fertility than everywhere in Greece.

    The fertility rate in Sweden is highest among upper middle class women, not native welfare recipients (Ellingsæter, 2009). The Mormon population of the USA is 14 million which is exceeds that of a Scandinavian country.

    Southern Europe has nothing to offer the world.

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  247. MISOGYNIST DRIVEL. The fact is the insecure, useless manimals of the right HATE females and do not acknowledge the female political cause, which is the world’s largest and most legitimate, because we are denied humanity by a bunch of animal males. And men don’t even benefit from patrirchy. How stupid are you to continue to enforce this. YOU DON’T AND WON’T EVER OWN WOMEN. CHECKMATE. PISS OFF.

    Unz, please stop posting miosgynist SHIT like this.

  248. @peterAUS

    Sounds like you’ve got a good setup there. I was told by an Aussie some twenty years ago that most sheilas plan to get divorced three times by the time they’re thirty so they can set themselves up for life taking husbands to the cleaners. He said they were not worth bothering with. Maybe he was exaggerating a bit to justify his preference for Asian women.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  249. Miro23 says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Although the fertility of immigrants in Sweden, for example, is much higher than that of ethnic Swedes, ethnic Swedes still have a higher average fertility rate (1.6) than southeastern Europeans (0.9-1.3).

    The low fertility rate of southeastern Europeans is a puzzle. On the face of it they should be having lots of children since they have strong family bonds, and enjoy the togetherness of families.

    The only explanation that I can find (having lived in Spain for the last 35 years), is that the more capable and intelligent half of young women have 100% decided that they need careers, and are becoming “en masse”, bankers, lawyers, architects, tax officials, registrars, notaries, administrators, politicians etc. – in fact everything middle class and non-manual that’s available.

    The result now, is offices full of professional women in their late 30’s to early 40’s, often single, and unable to find suitable status men to fit in with their careers. Spanish males are quite machista, unlike Swedes, and aren’t suitable home-husbands, so these women have few options and look like they are heading for spinsterhood.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  250. Miro23 says:
    @peterAUS

    Division of labor. The fundamental thing in humans.
    A woman is better in some things. I believe it’s home, (little) kids and money. Just me.
    Man is better is a lot of others.
    Teamwork. Eternal in genders. Ahm, it was for, what, 50 000 years. Not anymore, obviously.

    Agree with this. Division of labour doesn’ have much to do with love and romance, but it needs to be worked out, and companionship is a valuable thing. A good male income and never cheating also help a lot.

  251. awry says:
    @Mr. Grey

    n the Westerns the gunslingers roamed around the prairie fighting each other, and the food and clothing somehow took care of itself. Men were the head of the household, but if women weren’t happy nothing would get done.

    On the frontier there were 10 or 100 men to every woman, and (not suprisingly) most of these women were full or part time prostitutes.

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
  252. Isabella says:

    “men are competitive and achieve their highest reproductive potential through conquest, ”

    More modernist uninformed BS>
    Try reading somewhat more widely and outside the Mainstream frame of reference. There is a huge amount of evidence that up to the onset of the Empire Age about 4000 yrs ago, across the planet there were vast numbers of small groups of people in which this was not only not usual, but would have led to anyone exhibiting such behaviour being driven from the community.
    Communities flourished on the principle of mutual aid to mutual advantage and great consideration for others. Entire communities grew in intelligence and well being. All cared for all, all shared knowledge with all, rules were devised and followed that perpetrated this system.
    It was destroyed by Sargan of Mesopotamia, possible the first psychopath ruler and invader of a peaceful neighbouring group, the spread of the idea of invasion and Empire, the Industrial Revolution and the growth of cities with millions who have no idea how to grow food, or even often where it comes from, and finally forced mixing of alien peoples leading to loss of self identity and thus suicide.
    This idea of men being naturally given to violent competition has been pushed to excuse armies and political violence. It is not natural to man – otherwise why have Boot Camps with some guy screaming at young boys to stab a stuffed object?? It’s pushed to make the violence used by t hose who would grab the land and wealth of others excused. It can only be stopped when the mass of people acknowledge that it is wrong, sick and perverted and that they are not going to go along with it any more.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  253. @Achmed E. Newman

    I think Bobby Riggs acted the gentleman and let the “lady” win.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  254. @Jayne Says

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4349910/Feminism-BAD-two-thirds-woman-says-FAY-WELDON.html

    An increasing number of women disagree with you. Including leading feminists. Why wouldn’t they. Right wing women are hotter, and smarter, and more fulfilled and healthy, and have children and marriages that last with good men.

    Myrna Blyth in Spin Sisters has described how all modern feminism is a product of media and cultural central planning. It’s ridiculous. Women live in a female matrix, with total media and cultural facilitation But conceive a non existent ridiculous ‘patriarchy’. You are a product of the Rockefellers, even as you claim they oppose your agenda. Feminism is low IQ.

    Contemporary feminism is erstwhile cultural Marxist communist drivel. The Genesis of feminism is communism. That’s why it’s destroying western economies.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/02/economics-and-fate-of-feminism.html?m=1

    Feminism is going to die because it is economically unsustainable. Further equality is going to be impossible absent massive coercion which will cause vicious political backlash.

    “Feminism’s structural inability to sustain wage rates and birth rates spells the inevitable doom of every feminist society, as surely as the inability to calculate prices spells the doom of every socialist society. “Gender equality” hasn’t stalled because it isn’t being sufficiently enforced by the government, it has stalled because it is in the process of collapsing along with the society it has infested.

    The impossibility of sexual equalitarian societies has nothing to do with fairness, traditional religious beliefs, human rights, or how intensely one feels that women are equal to men in every way. It is a straightforward and unavoidable consequence of the law of supply and demand, and as such, is far more reliable than the Malthusian equation of the geometric increase of population outstripping the arithmetic increase of the food supply.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1189894/Women-happy-years-ago-.html

    Women have never been unhappier. Despite all the ‘advancements’ of feminism.

    Because feminism is psychotic. More damaging then communism, because it destroys nation’s. More fascist then National socialism, because it is more coercive.

    Practically every major feminist from Kate Millet to Virginia Wolfe to Gloria Allred were psychotic or suffering deep trauma, and they projected that on society.

    Feminism is also a product of Judaism:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_feminists

    Feminism is racist. It destroys societies. It ends in demographic and econooic destruction.

    Could go on but will leave it there.

    I don’t know what you’re talking about either. TERFs are swinging Right, victims of nog and mudslime and MS13 Mexicans are swinging Right. White women are going to come home.

    The hottest and sexiest women are right wing. Left wing women tend to be smelly retarded subhuman chimpanzees who get raped by people like Matt Lauer and Harvey Weinstein and enjoy it. Because all go their idiot non principles have zero.to do with their actual behaviour and cognition.

    40% of women over 35 by 2040 will be single and childless. Younger female generations have seen the fruits of feminist communism and are rejecting it.

    Anyway, not everything is mysogny lady, and enjoy feminism while it lasts. The whole thing is a giant shit test men are going to pass by shunning it until it dies, or every woman is part of a Muslim’s harem kept inside and out of sight.

    The ancient Romans and Greeks both have plays about female leadership, and it accompanied the fall of their civilizations.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  255. I see beards are very popular nowadays. But many bearded guys actually look like bearded women.
    I remember reading about reduced sperm count in the west a couple of decades ago. I wonder what is the culprits. Possibly bad diet, lifestyle that is too comfortable.
    Men definitelly should be raised in spartan like conditions to be capable to achieve real potential.

  256. @Sam Coulton

    The latest Greek and Swedish fertility rates are 1.4 and 1.9.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/sp.dyn.tfrt.in

    If we adjust for the fertility of the almost quarter foreign born Swedish population, the ethnic Swedish fertility rate is 1.5-1.6. There is not much difference with the Greek rate; and note, Greece just experienced a depression with a 40% loss of GDP.

    Regardless, they are both below replacement level and not very impressive. However, we are missing something. Even if a child is born it is best it is raised in a stable family. However, Sweden is clearly very far behind Greece in this regard.

    Children born out of wedlock are almost five times more likely in Sweden than in Greece.

    https://www.oecd.org/els/family/SF_2_4_Share_births_outside_marriage.pdf

    Divorce rates are two times higher in Sweden than in Greece.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/612207/divorce-rates-in-european-countries-per-100-marriages/

    So, although ethnic Swedes have slightly higher fertility rates, the quality of the family structure that those children are experiencing are significantly worse than Greek children.

    • Replies: @Sammy Coulton
  257. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “I’m just making some assumptions. They could be wrong.”

    More than likely they are wrong.

    “There is quite possibly no limit to the suffering that white people will endure…”

    Perhaps YOU as a white person is sufferings. Others, probably not.

    “I’m assuming that you’re a Boomer. This probably all sounds wild to you.”

    LOL, not a Boomer. Do you truly believe Boomers and Jews are the primary factors for our current issues?

    “Read the comments. Younger white men understand.”

    Some younger white men MAY understand.

    “The persecution of whites is never going to stop – and it’s eventually going to break the dissonances.”

    Another assumption.

    “When standards of living continue to crater and civics continue to degenerate because only whites are capable of universalism, mindsets will change.”

    Actually, all peoples are capable of universalism.

    “The largest movement of peoples in the history of the world is going to be accompanied by conflict. It’s absolutely inevitable.””

    I’ll wait for the movie to come out. See, it’s quite popular for people like yourself to say “You just wait, this impending civil war is going to happen. All in a matter of time”. Then guess what? More waiting, and pontificating, and waiting, and pontificating… I thought the brown hordes have already crashed the gate. So what are you waiting for to defend your “homeland”?

    “This is open war on the western way of life, and it ends with their eradication and enslavement.”

    By who?

    “When the gibs stop flowing Boomer, I hope you’re living amongst your own.”

    More Chicken Little talk.

    The “proposition nation” devotees have much for which to answer.”

    Quite the opposite, my white friend.

    “Lets see if the entire course of human history outweighs boomers retarded ideas about proposition nations, and fake melting pots, and fake multiculturalism, and fake everything.”

    The proposition nation was the creation of the Founding Fathers.

    “Europeans will keep engaging in white flight a bit longer until they realise there is nowhere left to run. Then they’ll fight.”

    So more hoping and waiting, right, St. Brievik?

    “they are going to find out what happens to feminists in around 2030 – which coincidentally is about how long the US has left before it breaks up.”

    Interesting, because that is the year that Vox Day says this event will occur. Are you his bitch?

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  258. In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons if someone with a beard and a penis can ever be a woman, to which Chelsea replied emphatically, ‘Yes.’

    “Transgender” used to mean changing sex. A person would have a “sex change operation”, and then struggle to achieve legal recognition.

    Nowadays such people still exist, they have their legal recognition, and most people wish them well.

    But we also have a larger group of people who take the legal recognition, but somehow forget to have the sex change operation (or “gender confirmation surgery”, as we must now learn to call it). These are the women who have a beard and a penis. About half of them declare that they are not only women, but lesbian. If you refuse to recognise that a man with a certificate declaring that he is a woman is in fact a woman, you are automatically “transphobic”. This is true even if you are a lesbian woman or heterosexual man who refuses to have sex with such a person upon discovering that “she” is an anatomically intact male.

    The idea of recognising as transsexual those people who have not changed sex and have no intention of doing so is not just absurd, nor is it merely batshit insane. It is an example of SJWs using their power to humiliate ordinary people. Your reason, your common sense, your powers of observation, none of these matter. The Party decides what is right or wrong, and woe betide you if you question it.

    Fortunately, people are neither as stupid nor as subservient as the Party of the Woke thinks they are. The Party has overreached, and a correction is due.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  259. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kiel

    Good points. As Spengler put it, a man must be a man for the times he was born into and not some other; that life, if it is to be good, must be hard; and, that in any vital society men prepare themselves mentally and physically for what is worth dying for and don’t spend their time worrying about what they’ll die from. The lives of white men will be immeasurably more fulfilling when they turn their backs on modern life in America, starting with the pathetic habit of watching the NFL or believing Fox News. America’s white women, like stray cats, will side with whatever side CNN tells them is winning until their own front door is kicked in by savages with machetes.

    • Agree: Kiel
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  260. @AnonStarter

    It lacks value because it is Jewish.

  261. @kerdasi amaq

    Hey, Mr. Amaq. Per the Peak Stupidity article I linked to, and its reference to Mr. Taki himself (of Takimag), apparently a serious tennis player in his time, Bobby Riggs purposefully didn’t work out or practice for a few MONTHS before the match! That’s pretty much “Rigging” it to lose, in tennis.

    If he won, just like you wrote, he wouldn’t be the gentleman.

    The question Taki brought up was whether there was lots of money involved. It’s pretty interesting history from a time during which feminism seemed a little more like the joke it is.

  262. @MikeatMikedotMike

    That sounds right for the most part. I am pretty impressed with Miss Coulter’s lawyerly logic when she does get into detail, such as with her book about Joe McCarthy. I have NOT read it, but just her excerpts from it. I have been meaning to read it, and you just reminded me. Thanks!

  263. @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, I see Peter Harris disagrees. OMG! Which part, Mr. Harris? Do you disagree that Miss Coulter is single? Did she tell you personally that she was married? (Pssst, she was blowing you off, man… sorry… there are other tall skinny blonde conservative libertarian chicks out there… go on TSBLC-Cupid.com. Don’t link to any of your posts on homeschooling, if you want to get any “Interested”s.)

    • Replies: @Peter Harris
  264. @Maria Elisa

    And it got the approval of Constantine by conquering the heart of his mother, as far as I know.

    So now we know. The sweep of Christianity across the western world for fifteen hundred years was at the behest of a woman of power.

    Women have always had that kind of power. The Patriarchy is only a facade. The real power behind the throne has always worn a skirt.

  265. @James N. Kennett

    In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons if someone with a beard and a penis can ever be a woman, to which Chelsea replied emphatically, ‘Yes.’

    Her daddy said that it all depends on what the definition of the word is. In her world, perhaps she’s right.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  266. @Daniel Rich

    Add to that volatile mix the

    I elaborate in depth on the American “militarization” and macho culture as a unique phenomenon, truly American one, in my first book. In a society which knows practically nothing about real warfare and cost of it, sublimating it in the most grotesque forms is inevitable. It is also an obverse side of a deep seated complex of inferiority. E.g. most people in US Congress never served a day in uniform, but apart from being often in the pocket of MIC, their, sometimes grotesque, war-mongering is an obverse side of most of them being wussies. Some of them are cucks literally.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @awry
  267. Rurik says:
    @Jayne Says

    the right HATE females and do not acknowledge the female political cause,

    We certainly don’t hate women. Quite the opposite, in fact. What you’re mistaking for ‘hate’ is our visceral reaction to grotesque anti-women like yourself.

    But the way your basic alt-right man feels about actual, living and breathing ladies, with their souls intact, (like a few on this thread), we’d kill to protect them.

    And consider them the ineffable apex of Gods creation. Indeed, some of us verily live to bask in their assorted, Heavenly charms.

    For the record.

    Please don’t mix up vile, ‘nasty skanks’ –

    who understandably invoke the vomit reflex..

    With that which is most precious to us..

    The difference between the two could not be more stark.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  268. @Isabella

    I wonder what the chimpanzee drill sarges do that make their males so violent? Do chimpanzee invasions have their precedent in a Chimp Sargon?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

    All cared for all, all shared knowledge with all, rules were devised and followed that perpetrated this system.

    The research of early tribes and hunter-gathers across the world is really quite interesting, but it pretty consistently undermines your suggestion. The closet example to your suggestion would perhaps be Western Arnhem Land’s Gunwinggu people, which basically encourage prostituting their wives to neighboring tribes as part of trade(the ceremonial dzamalag). Besides likely being the result of extreme barrenness of a lot of Australian natives, it is obviously a “mixing” tradition that doesn’t permit any genetic stability.

  269. refl says:

    Skimming the comments, I think that some people have commented on the picture of the Huffpost staff. Am I the only one who is convinced that I have seen these long haired non characters with their false grin as interns in all the workplaces (mostly public institutions) that I enter?
    Am I the only one who falls asleep at the idea of ever having to spend an evening with any of them?

    What is more, now I understand how Russiagate, Trump derangement syndrom, Gretaism and all that other idiocy have come about: Just try to imagine these non entities having a professional discussion on tomorrows edition of their news outlet.

    And no, I am definitely not misogynic, as some people here saddly are. I simply had the luck to be skipped by all these pampered Western middle class off spring that would have been in the cards for me. And I thank god for having given me a clear sign, when time was up and I was to give my life a 180 degree turn and settle for someone useful.

    Just to imagine that I had to go to the market and engage with these…

  270. Rurik says:
    @Flint Clint

    White women are going to come home.

    some will, others not so much

    the fat, ugly (inside and out) ones (who can have their pick from the young diversity because they’re white), are not going to trade their ‘romance’ for celibacy.

    And certain others, are simply not going to be welcomed back. Is there a self-respecting white man on the planet who would let his dog grunt with Lindsey Vonn? Let alone himself!

    Heidi Klum ‘married’ a gay wigger

    heh

  271. @Rurik

    Well, one must be fair: most women are simply not great looking. It’s not their fault; that’s just the way world is.

    And here comes the fundamental difference in gender/sex psychology: no significantly high IQ unattractive, yet successful in his chosen field of interest male would, if he could, trade his mental abilities for being a dumb athlete; on the other hand, virtually all high IQ unattractive females would very gladly trade all their mental abilities for great looks.

    Such is the nature.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  272. jo blo says:
    @AaronB

    Give vouchers to any parent whose kid can pass the NCLB tests for his grade. The average cost per kid is above 10k$ per year.

    Imagine that money going into moms pocket instead of educrats, and moms raising families instead of welfare. Undercut big money conveyors supporting (D)irtbag politicians, huge welfare savings and get the moms away from their own bureaucratic jobs. A REAL GAME CHANGER AGAINST THE MAINSTAYS OF OUR CURRENT CULTURAL TOXICITY

    Best of all, kids could evade a lot of bullying, from other kids, LBQT and teachers.

    One of the worst things taught by our current system is the lack of freedom of association.

  273. Rurik says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s true that looks are more important for a woman than for a man, but average looking women can often land a good man simply by virtue of their kindness, humor and perhaps most importantly, femininity (with all that that word entails). It isn’t all about looks.

    It could be argued that Lindsey Vonn is better looking than your average looking woman.

    (found by typing ‘average woman’ into a photo search)

    What white man is going to prefer the pretty mud fish over the average-looking woman? Who’s also more likely to have a beautiful soul, and a great sense of humor, and loving and kind and solicitous, as the best women always are?

    I appreciate a beautiful woman as much as the next person, but for companionship, generally speaking you’re better off with a seven than with a nine. Especially if they’re American women, and have had their souls polluted by feminism. In that case, you’re better off with a dog.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  274. Harbinger says:
    @Jayne Says

    I was wondering how long it would take for a bra burning, Millie Tant would show up on the forum.

    The left, has brought identity and subjection into their politics. For example, in your eyes, if anyone disagrees in any of the left’s rhetoric they are automatically ‘haters’.
    You have a job in this world. That job is to pump out babies and raise them to adulthood. That’s it. Nothing else, nothing more. But no, you want to control others. You want to pigeon hole everyone into boxes. You’re no longer happy living next to man, you want to compete and take what he has.

    From a young boy, at school, I always remember girls. They always wanted to be part of the boy’s gang. They wanted to play with them. They wanted to be allowed to go to their gang house. They hated being left out and couldn’t accept that boys wanted to play with boys. I grew older and nothing had changed. They took over men’s pub’s, sporting clubs, men’s clubs demanding equality, to the point that you can’t go into any bar these days without having to listen to groups of witches, screaming at the top of their voices to be the dominant alpha female, raising the noise level of the pub.

    Western women are the most spoilt, pampered, protected, arrogant, disrespectful, angry, hating group on this earth. And what these morons fail to understand is, their men sacrificed their very existence to create a safe environment for their women, who now, through feminism, have wrestled superiority and rule with an iron fist. The only problem here is that men have decided to simply leave, the female plantation. Marriage has plummeted. Relationships also. It means that when the west is invaded you feministas will have to defend against the oncoming immigrant patriarchy who will not show you the love and affection your own menfolk did, you’ve managed to turn against you. You’ll be beaten and raped. You’ll be married off to a Muslim mullah or African negro, who’ll pump you daily, regardless of your desire not to and have you pushing out his babies. You’ll be cooking, cleaning and also looking after his other children, from his other wives, you’ll be sharing a house with.
    The lesbians will be pumping out babies to. Their choice of only having relationships with women will come crashing to an end. They’ll be adorning the burka and their place will be in the home to raise children.

    You had a great thing going and you f*cked up! You decided to rebel against nature, not man. You believed the Jew, Marxist lies and here you are today, growing older, single, no children, no family, off out trawling bars and nightclubs, post wall, caked in makeup with no chance of a relationship but possibly some practice sex for a young stud. You grow fat and ugly. You cover yourself in hideous tattoos, subconsciously a warning to men to stay away, just as he would a brightly coloured snake, spider or frog. Nature demanded you submit before the male, not the male, but you are incapable of accepting this.

    Just wait until tshtf sweetheart. When the hordes on non whites are rampaging. When you look to fellow white males to protect you and they simply say “fuck off, you have equality, show it.”
    The European race is dying because of selfish women like you, who want to go out and work, to chase the green manilishi, so you can buy your vino, your shoes, your fancy clothes, tattoos, cars, apartments and holidays abroad. You stuck the finger up at nature and bowed down to Mammon. You are a lost cause.
    I think in the future, they’ll write about the European women, as the women whose menfolk walked away from, because of their repugnance, gross selfishness and hatred for the male.
    You epitomise the reality of what happens when women get too comfortable in society, courtesy of the men, who don’t see war and have to fight for their existence. However, that’s all about to change. War is coming and when it does, don’t look to men to be your saviours. You have put a sour taste into many’s mouths. You have created misogynists, through your actions, no different to Jews creating anti Semites through theirs. But considering you’ve decided to unknowingly adopt Talmudism as your religion, it’s completely understandable as to why.

    I never, ever thought I’d state this but white women, as a whole are utterly vile, disgusting, degenerate, selfish, arrogant, disrespectful witches I have absolutely no time for. I only wish I had a time machine, for if I had, I’d go back into the past and tell my ancestors not to fight that battle they were about to die in, but to leave their women, move abroad and let their race die out so women today wouldn’t exist. When I think of the sacrifices men, back then, made so that harpies like you can exist I’m deeply saddened. You have not only no respect for your men, but also your culture, nature, civilisation and race. You utterly disgust me and I’m not alone in my thinking.

    • Agree: Kiel
    • Replies: @Rurik
  275. @Rurik

    You’re straying off the topic (or not, just this is not what I’ve been trying to say). I am not talking about disgusting sluts like Vonn or similar skanks (I don’t care about media-hyped whores).
    Nor about crazy modern day slutty airheads swamping the colleges.

    As I see it (I may be wrong, but never mind): a healthy minded person who is successful in his/her chosen field of interest will react differently according to sex/gender. To me, it is so obvious that it does not need proving.

    I am not talking about extreme cases like the late Steven Hawking, because I don’t think any normal, ordinary man would trade his health for such type of life. Just, women who had not been batshit crazy for most of their lives & who possessed an ambition to accomplish more with their lives than only a family life – it is perfectly normal to expect they would be more than happy to have been great looking in their youth (I mean heterosexual normal women; also, this has nothing to do with their world-view or ideology, which I may despise).

    Historically, George Eliot was fugly; so was Golda Meir & now are those broads in SCOTUS. I bet that Ruth B. Ginsburg would have given all her career to have been a knockout in her youth.

    On the other hand, actually homely looking important men like, say, many top scientists in past 50 years or Bill Gates or anyone similar wouldn’t give a damn for packing six abs or anything like that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  276. Mr. Grey says:
    @awry

    On the frontier there were 10 or 100 men to every woman, and (not suprisingly) most of these women were full or part time prostitutes.

    Yes the frontier. Many westerns took place in towns, with a sheriff and a nagging wife who didn’t want her man to go find trouble.

  277. Kiel says:
    @Anonymous

    “America’s white women, like stray cats, will side with whatever side CNN tells them is winning until their own front door is kicked in by savages with machetes.”

    Beautiful statement, and if you’ll allow me to add:

    “. . . and it’s a toss-up as to whether or not those savages will be wearing hoodies, or uniforms representing the state.”

  278. Rurik says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I bet that Ruth B. Ginsburg would have given all her career to have been a knockout in her youth.

    On the other hand, actually homely looking important men like, say, many top scientists in past 50 years or Bill Gates or anyone similar wouldn’t give a damn for packing six abs

    I suspect that this is true in general terms, but certainly not true across the board.

    I suspect Ayn Rand would have rather been dead than wake up as Miley Cyrus.

    And I’m willing to bet that Michael Moore would sacrifice his “talent” to spend one day looking like a human.

    But I get your point.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  279. Kiel says:
    @Jayne Says

    You said:

    ” YOU DON’T AND WON’T EVER OWN WOMEN. CHECKMATE. PISS OFF.”

    Checkmate? Really? How? Because you said so? Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.

    You said:

    “The fact is the insecure, useless manimals of the right HATE females and do not acknowledge the female political cause . . . “

    There is no ‘female political cause’, Cupcake.

    Here are women in a nutshell:

    “Women want what they want because they don’t have it. But, they don’t want it once they have it because it ain’t what they thought it would be.”

    You’re not adults capable of independent thought, you only parrot whatever the media or educational system puts in your heads. You’re 8 year old spoiled children without any discipline.

    Thanks to your symbiotic relationship with The State (votes & free stuff for unbridled reign), you been given the wheel to drive the bus off the cliff (love mixed metaphors).

    Women want what they want, they want it now, and they don’t care who delivers it, or how that person gets it (that’s why you wuv bad boys).

    Oh, and you’re going to save the world with the money and labor of others, right? Your gift to the world is telling the worker-bees what to do.

  280. Liza says:
    @Harbinger

    For a father to know that his daughter is doing disgusting sex acts on film, must be dreadful, but again they don’t care

    Lots of seemingly normal white men are committing disgusting sex acts as well – but in private with their stupid women, instead of on film. There is hardly any normal sex any more, from what I hear. Oh, wait – they do film themselves sometimes, too. Apparently looking at yourself having sex is more exciting than actually just doing it.

    But, hey, let’s just make sure the white race survives, right? So we can partake of more and more bizarre sexual rituals because we’ve lost all sense of normalcy in anything.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  281. @HallParvey

    This doctor lost his job by giving the wrong answer to a question about a hypothetical six-foot tall man with a beard who wanted to be addressed as “she” and “Mrs”.

    https://summit.news/2019/07/11/christian-doctor-fired-from-government-job-after-refusing-to-refer-to-6-foot-bearded-man-is-madam/

  282. Rurik says:
    @Harbinger

    the oncoming immigrant patriarchy who will not show you the love and affection your own menfolk did, you’ve managed to turn against you.

    Scandinavian countries, (and Finland in particular) were the first countries to give women the vote.

    Here’s Sweden’s deputy prime minister, Isabella Lövin, who shows her gratitude by demanding Sweden replace Swedish men with African and Muslim immigrants, when she isn’t signing historically idiotic ‘climate’ bills.

    “We are a feminist government, which shows in this photo.” said Lövin

    https://fortune.com/2017/02/04/swedish-deputy-prime-minister-all-women-trump/

    Here the repulsive slag demands more immigration into Sweden

    https://www.savemysweden.com/swedens-green-party-generous-immigration-policy/

    Isn’t that special?

    She rewards Swedish men for giving their women the vote, by replacing Swedish men with Africans and Muslims.

    And don’t for one second think that feminist cow is going to cry over raped Swedish young women, because when it comes to pretty young Swedish girls, they need to get over themselves, and get with the Third World program. Submission to your new Muslim masters, is the way of Swedish feminism.

    I suppose in some ways Islam really is superior to the (dying) freedoms in the (dying) West.

    At least they don’t allow some frumpy, man-hating feminists to destroy their ancient societies and cultures and genocide their people off the planet, like Western feminists are doing.

  283. @Rurik

    And I’m willing to bet that Michael Moore would sacrifice his “talent” to spend one day looking like a human.

    Definitely. But I was talking about more or less unattractive men who are still somehow- human. Not on monsters.

    • LOL: Andrei Martyanov
    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  284. @Agathoklis

    You give no explanation for how you calcukated your “arjustment”; which is entirely unnecessary as the fertility rate of ethnic Swedes is already known (it’s just under 1.7).

    Your point about the financial crisis is meaningless as Greek fertility has been below 1.5 since the late 1980s, long predating the recent slump. The Swedish fertility rate has never been below 1.5, and they actually experienced a slight baby boom in the 1990s.

    Furthermore, the divorce rate in Sweden is driven by minority women in Sweden. The divorce rate of ethnic Swedes is lower than that of Greeks.

    https://www.rhkauffman.com/swedens-high-divorce-rate/

    • Replies: @Agathoklis
  285. Harbinger says:
    @Liza

    I don’t know where you’re going with your reply?
    Women have sole authority over their body. Any man who encroaches upon it, without permission, will end up in jail. Any disgusting sex acts they commit, they will certainly consent to, unless raped.
    Sexual degeneracy wouldn’t occur, between man and woman, were women to refuse to do disgusting sex acts. The thing is they don’t.

    • Replies: @Liza
  286. Harbinger says:
    @Rurik

    The left sees all races in this world as the same. It sees races that aren’t succeeding, as so because of white wrongdoing to them, as taught to by the Jew. Therefore, they see immigrants as no different to their own and will happily co-habit with them and procreate. They have no love for their nation, culture, civilisation nor race. Allowing the left to have authority is essentially picking up your country and throwing it on top of the bonfire. The left, very much mirrors Jewishness – revolution and destruction.

    • Agree: Dannyboy
  287. @Miro23

    [This website requires you to pick a single Handle and stick with it.]

    Spanish and Italian males are whimps and emasculated. Swedish men are the most masculine men in Europe.

    2/3rds of southern European males are basement dwelling incels:

    https://www.thelocal.it/20181218/two-thirds-of-young-italians-are-still-living-with-their-parents

    Trump physically assaults cuck president of Montenegro on live television:

    • Replies: @Anon
  288. @Rurik

    Immigragion to Sweden is roughly sex equivalent; a substantial number of immigrants are females from Latin America and East Asia. It’s actually more likely for an immigrant woman to have been with a Swedish man, than for an immigrant male to be with a Swedish female.

    https://www.thelocal.se/20150402/single-immigrants-less-likely-to-settle-with-swedes

    Only three out of ten immigrant women and nearly two out of ten immigrant men were in relationships with Swedes after five years.

  289. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Sounds like you’ve got a good setup there.

    Suits me. Different strokes……

    The key, I think (again, different strokes…free will….), is just that. Think.
    Or…hahaha….which head does the (partner) selection process? Top or bottom?

    In “my time” (feels ages ago…..) it wasn’t about “me” and “being happy” and “now”. It was what a man, and a woman, thought, felt, was correct.
    Lust and sex weren’t, for smart people that is, misunderstood for love. And even love wasn’t the only element when choosing a partner for life.

    This, postmodern/whatever, world is different. We see the results.

    Men and women of the circle I was moving around didn’t think, then, “me”, “now”, “happy”. So…hehehe…we had it all wrong according to..ahm..modern people. And, yet, those “primitive” people, I included, have been married to one woman/man, having rather successful kids, careers…lives. 30-40, even 50 years now and still going strong.
    These…hehe..modern..people…well..look around you.

    I get the world has changed from “my time” when a “woman thing” is concerned. Fine. Free will and natural selection too.

    And there is one more thing. Whenever I have any contact with women today they always feel who, what, I am. Never any problem. Most of the time a lot of benefits.
    Even a worst feminazi bitch does respond well when recognizes the eternal vibe. At least she’s careful.

    As one of the handles here said, you could be, if not that king of his, a man, an alpha, in any social contact.
    Any.
    Always.

  290. Heartiste says:

    @AaronB poisoned the goy:

    “You are at your weakest when you fight powerful currents, and strongest when you go along with them, and then shape them to your desires.”

    The Controlled Opposition Case for Shaping the Direction of Drag Queen Story Times

    “Fighting Christianity did not work.”

    If Christianity was truly anathema to the native Europeans as you tacitly assert, it wouldn’t have come close to being embraced by them.

    “And today, thinkers like Vox Day and Bruce Charlton simply make out of Christianity whatever they want.”

    Unlike Judaism, the goal of Christianity isn’t finding ways to get around a million laws.

    “go along with a powerful force to subtly influence its direction”

    Yes, White Christians, go along with our Poztopia program, don’t fight it. Influence the form of its depravity. How convenient.

    “You cannot fight head on the spirit of the times. You will fail.”

    …said the potential recipient of any backlash.

    “But where are the subtle, adaptive, intelligent people on the alt-right?”

    Right here, under your noses. Heh.

    “Why are they so stupid?

    jewishnarcissism.txt

    “These forces are out of our control, and I am not suggesting a strategy to change the world.”

    …now that the world is to your liking. So many argumentums ad conveniences!

    “Wokeness will be with us for the foreseeable future, probably hundreds of years.”

    LMAO. Wishcasting. Twenty years ago, the vast majority of Americans were opposed to gay marriage. Today, a majority shrug their shoulders about grotesque trannies peeing in women’s bathrooms. Yes, I imagine you’d love it if the j-friendly Woke World had its clown boot on White Christian nations’ necks forever, but the times change awfully fast these days. Soviet Communism lasted 70 years; Wokeness won ‘t make it half that time given that its entire premise is built atop a mountain of lies and stark raving insanity.

    You know what keeps insanity going? Propaganda, and lots of it. Wokeness won’t last 100 hours let alone 100 years without the power of the chaimstream media to endlessly feed it. Cull the media of the subversives, and the nightmare fades from memory.

    “Even traditional religious societies didn’t really care what you did privately or what you thought so long as you publicly acquiesced.”

    Secular judaism is not exactly representative of most of the world’s religious communities.

    “Freedom is internal, not external.”

    The ideology of powerlessness.

    “Mockery only works on people who think you are one of them – the in-group. Otherwise mockery is easy to dismiss. No one cares about the mockery of people they completely disagree with and see as lunatics.”

    This sounds like something you learned in Psychobabble 101. It’s bullshit. The power of mockery by outsiders is evident in the campaigns of mass censorship, deplatformings, and demonetizations of nationalist alt-righters. The opposite of ass-blasted is indifference. I don’t see a lot of indifference in the scramble by TPTB to SHUT IT DOWN.

    If the mockery didn’t sting the Woke, the Woke wouldn’t be filled with humorless, sputtering rage and doxxing anyone with a quaint attachment to two sexes.

    I coined a term for your type of effete jmale Wormtonguery: kikeological projection.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Corvinus
  291. @Corvinus

    I’m not Vox’s bitch but I find his arguments very compelling and believe more people should have the benefit of them. It’s very interesting. If you mention his name on say Instapundit or the American Conservative it leads to bans. Why would he be so unauthorised?

    Because the Cuckservatives know he is right.

    You actually haven’t provided any arguments, of course. Just the usual dismissals.

    I accept that the points about white resistance are valid. Its easy to be dismayed by white self repudiation. But this cycle isn’t new in terms of migration.

    Maybe this movement of people’s will be the only one on the history of the world ever to be unaccompanied by conflict. Maybe you’re right and Martin Can Creveld is wrong.

    We shall see.

    But you’re dead wrong about the proposition nation being established by the founding fathers. They established this country for the genetic posterity.

    You sound like a Ben Shapiro Israel first fag. He wrote an entire book saying that western Civilization didn’t include Christianity, or the European peoples, or the geography of Europe. But was a ‘proposition’ from Jerusalem and Athens. That’s an absolutely hilarious lie.

    Shapiro types always quote the single line and ignore the Federalist Papers, the Preamble to the Constitution, and the 1790 Naturalization law… as well as the rest of the Declaration of Independence. It’s dishonest, it’s ahistorical, it’s transparent, and it’s pathetic.

    The Declaration of Independence itself is directly opposed to the revisionist equalitarian interpretation, as the document also refers to: the connection between [the United Colonies] and the State of Great Britain, the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages
    large Armies of foreign Mercenaries
    the present King of Great Britain, the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners, the free System of English Laws of our British brethren.

    To rely upon a single phrase of a document in contradiction to the central theme of the entire document, which is that the People of the United Colonies are an English people, unique and distinct from foreigners, Indians, and the English people loyal to the King of Britain, is an outrageous attempt at deceit that relies entirely upon the historical ignorance of the audience.

    To say that anyone can become an American because “all men are created equal” is a shameless lie. One might as legitimately cite it as evidence to claim it means anyone can become Chinese.

    Don’t come on this website, where all material is closely to hand, and spout the lies of teeny weeny charlatans and hucksters and destroyers like Ben Shapiro.

    There is no such thing as a proposition nation. It’s absurd in all dimensions. I don’t suddenly become Han Chinese if I merely spout off a set of Confucian principles.

    What are the consequences if the proposition is reneged upon? What preserves said proposition? Call it chicken little or whatever you want. But I suspect you are going to get an opportunity to find out.

    Tell me some more about this lie of the proposition left. Then tell me your ethnicity.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  292. AaronB says:
    @Heartiste

    Now the nice men in white suits will gently guide you back into your padded cell, Heartiste There, there, its all okay.

    Lol, the manospheres creepiest certified lunatic responds to my comment…

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  293. Sunshine says:
    @Jayne Says

    You certainly don’t speak for me. Maybe if a man did own you, you wouldn’t be on here spitting your venom. You might even have some children to care for, and you wouldn’t be a barren, forever alone, cat lady. I think you’re out of boxed wine and Xanax, better get that sorted.

    • LOL: Kiel
  294. @Sammy Coulton

    The divorce rate in Greece is 22 per 100 marriages. If your number is correct for ethnic Swedes, the divorce rate is still significantly higher than Greeks.

    Ethnic Swedish fertility rates are almost as dire as Greek ones but family structure is a complete and utter mess.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  295. @Liza

    Maybe the fictional character of Susie Greene, with all her lack of “manners” (ugh), what not entirely wrong when she berated two other characters (Larry David & her fictional husband fatso Greene) in the sitcom “Curb Your Enthusiasm” as two sick pervy pricks …

    • Replies: @Liza
  296. Anatman says:
    @bruce county

    Kind of like how the government forces men to their knees at gunpoint in order to steal from them? What exactly is so hard to understand?

  297. Huge kudos to Unz for citing the Daily Stormer.

  298. @Peter Harris

    And this:

    Oh the irony,… here you are, reinforcing the title of this article.
    It’s males like you, who should just shut up and go away, because you’re reinforcing the perception that males are dumb, ignorant and think with their dicks.

    follows from this:

    Ann Coulter, who just happens to be a woman without a beard or penis, agrees with Peak Stupidity that women should never have been given the right to vote. This genderbender nonsense is still seen by most as the stupidity that it is. However, the lack of understanding of the rights of men and the support for Socialism over the years has done much more damage than this new silly stuff.

    how, exactly?

  299. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “If you mention his name on say Instapundit or the American Conservative it leads to bans.”

    Ok, Sport, prove this statement. The onus is on you submit evidence to support your contention.

    “You actually haven’t provided any arguments, of course. Just the usual dismissals.”

    I am employing rhetoric with rhetoric. As your boy Day says, never use dialectic when in a rhetoric fight.

    “Its easy to be dismayed by white self repudiation.”

    What rankles you is that white people make their own decisions about race and culture. Must we think and act in the same vein as you do, lest we incur the wrath of being called a “cuckservative” or “race traitor”?

    “You sound like a Ben Shapiro Israel first fag”.

    I’m Pure Goy. Polish, Dutch, and German. I imagine it is easy on your brain to make that reference. In that manner, you don’t have to do critical thinking.

    “But you’re dead wrong about the proposition nation being established by the founding fathers. They established this country for the genetic posterity.”

    Clearly you need to be educated.

    Posterity to the founding fathers meant the creation of an independent nation, with a vigorous and adaptable form of government, with a body of liberties that were malleable to the times. Thomas Jefferson bore witness to the new government as a unique combination of the freest elements of English law and political custom. While he was concerned that unrestricted immigration of peoples from lands unacquainted with the principle of representative government MIGHT undo the careful work of our Founding Fathers, he said prophetically, “from such we are to expect the greatest number of immigrants”.

    “Posterity” has three possible meanings: one’s actual legal descendants and heirs, one’s succeeding generations, or simply refers to later times. Samuel Johnson in his dictionary preceding the Revolution and in his edition contemporary with defines it as both descendants and succeeding generations. Note if “succeeding generations” means the same thing as descendants, or vice versa, it would have been unnecessary to include both definitions. He also cited to Latin, wherein posteritas refers means future generations, one’s actual descendants, AND future times.

    Now, Johnson was NOT descended from the successful revolutionaries of 1776 nor even related to the statesmen of 1789. Thus, we could discount him and his dictionary. Yet, Webster’s Dictionary at that same time uses the same definitions, and employs the same language of the day. How do we address “the addition of the word ‘our’ must restrict it to descendants alone?” Simply, we add “our” to either definition and both stand equally well on their own – “our descendants,” “our succeeding generations” – without changing their relationship or meaning.

    Posterity also does NOT refer only to one’s own children, but as with the synonymous “legacy” also has the broader meaning of what we leave behind. The Founding Fathers were self-consciously leaving behind other than a genetic legacy. The motto “Novus Ordo Seclorum” reflects their legacy, setting up the mechanisms of government they invented to secure liberty against tyranny. Recall Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: “The Congress shall have Power To…establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization…” By definition, naturalization extends citizenship, and all the rights and duties related to it, to an outsider, that is, someone not the posterity of a signer of the document. The Founding Fathers clearly desired “to invite foreigners of merit and republican principles among us.” Indeed, the intention was whites and Europeans, but who imagined at that time non-whites and women would be able to embrace these principles? But there is no racial or gender criteria to adhering to republican ideals in the Constitution.

    Now, IF we assume the Founding Fathers intended the Constitution to be a limitation on the power of government, as to themselves and their posterity–defined as descendants in their own personal blood-lines–by intentionally excluding those other people from the protections of the Constitution, and by failing to make a different provision for their protection from government, THEN the Founding Fathers left them completely unprotected from government, granting the Founding Fathers even broader authority enjoyed by the British monarchy, which was restricted by the Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights. In effect, the Founders and their blood-lines set themselves up as “nobility”, with unfettered rights, with all others designated as “peasants”, having no rights. The historical record clearly demonstrates that the Founding Fathers did NOT partake in such an endeavor.

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    , @Flint Clint
  300. Anatman says:

    I don’t care if it gets me killed. I’m not going to stop speaking the truth when it matters. I can honestly say without a hint of irony that I’d rather die than to have to compromise myself.

    • Agree: Sunshine
  301. Corvinus says:
    @Heartiste

    LOL, the only reason why you opine Alt Right propaganda is because your gig as the preeminent “pump and dumper” came to a grinding halt. You hit the female wall, thus you had to reinvent yourself as this virulent white nationalist/protector of Western Civilization.

    The truth of the matter is that you promoted anti-Godly. anti-Western masculinity, which is defined by Kings 2:1-3–“As David’s time to die drew near, he charged Solomon his son, saying, I am going the way of all the earth. Be strong, therefore, and show yourself a man. Keep the charge of the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, to keep His statutes, His commandments, His ordinances, and His testimonies, according to what is written in the Law of Moses, that you may succeed in all that you do and wherever you turn.” Apostle Paul stated the following, “lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness which they have practiced”.

    Moreover, you employed “game” not to secure a monogamous relationship and engage in coitus for the exclusive purpose of siring offspring, but to squarely make excuses on how and why to live the Don Juan lifestyle with all the trimmings. What is the end result? A bitter man in his late 40’s with supposedly a bevy of p—– pelts on the wall, still trying to chase young tail with his favorite lines, but without the trophy wife nor prodigious progeny.

    Shiv inserted into neck. Twist and turn slowly.

    • Agree: Liza
    • Troll: Sam Coulton
    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  302. @Agathoklis

    Your data is old (from 2005). The Greek divorce rate peaked at 30% more recently and declined as marriage faltered:

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/237261/article/ekathimerini/community/the-changing-greek-family

    So yeah the effective divorce rate of Greeks is way higher than for Swedes.
    And ethnic Swedes show no signs of suffering any social maladies from family life, whereas Greeks have a very high rate of homelessness, mental illness, etc, compared to Swedes:

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130924103500.htm

    In the study, recently published in the scientific journal PLOS One, groups of students at Athens University and Linköping University replied to questions about their health and perceived stress. The results show that in every respect, the Greek students reported poorer health than the Swedish students.

    Greek marriage rate in 2005 (also higher than ethnic Swedes in 2005) didn’t protect them from anything. Nobody in their right mind wants to be Greek.

  303. Testing the “update my information” function.

  304. Miro23 says:

    The Founding Fathers clearly desired “to invite foreigners of merit and republican principles among us.” Indeed, the intention was whites and Europeans, but who imagined at that time non-whites and women would be able to embrace these principles? But there is no racial or gender criteria to adhering to republican ideals in the Constitution.

    No one at the time imagined that non-whites, women and non-Europeans would subscribe to principles of merit and republican principles.

    But have they?

    Or is it just predictable traditional racist ethnic/group advancement, that has nothing to do with “principles of merit and republican principles”.

  305. Liza says:
    @Harbinger

    Sexual degeneracy wouldn’t occur, between man and woman, were women to refuse to do disgusting sex acts.

    That’s true. But some men (and women) still want it. That they may sometimes not have the opportunity to act out their urges hardly makes them worthwhile humans. I was trying (I guess unsuccessfully) to say that we’ve become a dissolute, debased, un-natural race, though I wouldn’t limit my definition of “debased” to sex matters.

    If I want to do it with an animal but am scared of the animal biting or scratching me, am I entitled to respect from anyone?

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  306. @Achmed E. Newman

    Again, you just prove my point, with your unhinged nonsense.

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  307. @Bardon Kaldian

    It looks like it took many years of hard work, perseverance and consistency to get to this shape.

  308. @Peter Harris

    No “interested”s yet? Keep in mind, some of the girls are ringers and use Ann Coulter’s picture as their avatars. Make sure you get her on the web-cam, and have her do a full 360, before you send any money for air fare.

    • Troll: Peter Harris
  309. @Jayne Says

    Jayne says:

    “I never been in love,
    I don’t know what it is.”
    She only knows if someone wants her.

    (That was the only way I was gonna get this song outta my head … not that I don’t like Jane’s Addiction.)

  310. @Corvinus

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/posterity-tk-vs-vd.html?m=1

    I won’t change your mind.

    But I invite anyone else reading this to look at the debate on the meaning of posterity between Vox Day and Tom Kratman.

    What you provided is a set of non sequiturs. What this debate provided was actual textual analysis based on the use of the word in all the founding papers, and the contemporary philosophy.

    Posterity means the genetic posterity.

    It’s just beyond ridiculous to think the founding fathers fought against their ‘British Brethren’ to preserve a nation where Muslims and Africans and Asians and Indians can click their heels 3 times say words and they’re American. And according to the latest progressive theories they don’t even have to be a citizen. Anyone who comes illegally must be made a citizen. That’s the new progressive hotness.

    The American nation is the bloodlines of the founders, just like it is the case for every other nation. Until the end of time you will never be part of the Chinese nation. The state is just a legal construct, currently occupied by many nations, and being held by a foreign alien and hostile nation acting as a mafia that wants us to engage in endless wars for their benefit. It’s quite extraordinary to listen to US politicians and see where their real loyalties lie.

    It boggles my mind how Cuckservatives can think the American nation alone in all the world and the west as an aggregate is a proposition but no other is in the world. That’s always argued by the children of immigrants and not Americans like Ben Shapiro.

    It isn’t a proposition. The reason the USA and Europe are going to fail is precisely because aliens don’t adhere to or recognise the proposition of the West, created for European Christians who adhere to the Greco Roman legacy.

    Muammar Gaddaffi and Mahmoud Ahmadebijad both mocked this notion of the proposition nation for it’s stupidity.

    What will actually destroy civic nationalism is the societally destructive results of immigration, multiculturalism, and globalism proving the concept false.

    I’m convinced. How much more total destruction of everything do you need before you stop submitting to invasion?

    These aliens don’t believe in the constitution. They will use their democratic rights to destroy it. They already are in the process of doing so.

    The education of the Civic nationalists are going to be extraordinarly painful.

    Even Angela Merkel disagrees with you now. It’s incredible.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451

    It has failed. You can’t turn thieving somalis into good goy Germans. She said it’s failed. She just wants more of it because she’s a stupid woman and SJW who has to double down. If it’s failed, do it more. Just like you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  311. @Corvinus

    Heartiste is a man who simply identified the real dynamics of female attraction. That applies to all states of female relationship whether married or unmarried.

    Married men who run game maintain the attraction of their wives.

    20% of children in the UK of married couples aren’t the fathers. Add multiples for feminist Utopias like Sweden where such tests are illegal to conduct sue to women in government doing what women do in power.

    The sinful nature of fornication has nothing to do with what causes women to engage in it.

    You have the psychology of a cuckold.

    Heartiste could get married if he wished to. PUA has evolved now due to Tinder and Instagram and female hypergamy it allows. But the principles remain valid.

    But he can do more good in observing western women’s macro level shit tests and helping other men pass them.

    You are a globalist neo babelist. You aren’t Christian, by definition. So don’t intone Christian passages. Christianity is not globalism. It is exclusive just like the United States is exclusive.

    Muslims and Jews are excluded from Christian beneficence, for example. But I look forward to you saying that anyone can be a Christian regardless of adherence to the propostions at any given times. And white nation’s are actually excluded from each other according to Christian catechism if the effects are too disruptive.

    Why don’t you refer to the passages about being ruled by women and children and being dispossessed of your father’s possessions and vast out of your own lands as the wages of the sin of globalism. Looks like we’re there already. huh. Your non existent judeo Christian idiocy is neither jewish or Christian.

    By 2040 45% of us women will be alone and childless. Those are the wages of their sins.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  312. Harbinger says:
    @Liza

    “I was trying (I guess unsuccessfully) to say that we’ve become a dissolute, debased, un-natural race, though I wouldn’t limit my definition of “debased” to sex matters.”

    With that I cannot deny, not one word in fact and yes, I too wouldn’t limit it to carnal knowledge either.
    We are, as has purposefully been sculpted into becoming, an utterly debased race. We have no culture. We are no longer unique. We have lost our sense of purpose. There is no godliness within us, whatsoever. We are a people that seeks purely the pleasures of financial gain and sexual gratification. We are an utterly unnatural, immoral, unethical, materialistic, hedonistic, selfish, ignorant race today and we have become so in a matter of some 60 years of total, Marxist, brainwashing.

    Unlike the Weimar republic pre rise of Hitler (and post up until the end of WW2), our civilisation has been flooded with immigrants, to dilute who we are. Added to that the constant promotion of homosexuality, feminism, equality and diversity, we aren’t even shadows of our former peoples. We are an alien people to everything we were.

    The Jews knew this.
    The Jews are 100% responsible for this. They have absolutely no excuses whatsoever in denying so.
    They have destroyed our culture, our nation, our civilisation and our race and when Jews say it wasn’t them, it was. They stood idly by while their people annihilated every vestige of who we were. No Jew is innocent, for their apathy and unwillingness to see what was happening, what was being done to us, by their fellow Jews only goes to promote their complicity.
    Unlike Germany, pre WW2, we cannot unite behind a ‘Hitler’, a nationalist figure, because our society is completely divided with many, nay the majority adhering to communist principles accepting immigrants as no different to themselves and very much fellow [insert nationality] as they. Even the Jews in Germany united behind Hitler, fighting against communism, the overwhelming majority, supporters of the third reich and the removal of the globalist, read communist, international Jewish bankers aka Rothschilds.

    There isn’t a hope in hell of any nationalist figure attaining position in any western government. The last place help will ever come from is from the world of politics.

    The outcome is – total chaos, a complete annihilation of the system, the obliteration of every establishment within. The arrest of all within the left wing, subsequent trial for treason and a hell of a lot of executions. A complete culling of much of our civilisation. Effectively it would be to many of our fellow Europeans, the exact same situation Hitler and the third reich did to the alien Jews and the anti German Jews, within Germany post election in 1933.
    This will never happen.
    Western society is finished and should it rise, it will be a brown civilisation, with no history or culture, as that will have vanished.
    My prediction is Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s ‘Brave New World’. As long as people are rutting like rabbits (with no offspring) and taking copious amounts of drugs, the prison will continue. This is why the sexualisation and drug culture will not only continue but grow exponentially.

    Ironically, the only thing I can see stopping this from happening, will of course be the rise of Islam in the west and it turning into a Sharia state, forbidding usury, homosexuality, drug culture and everything else that the Jew is responsible in promoting. In doing so, the battle against Jewry, in the west will be won, but at the complete loss of our culture, our nations, our civilisation and our race.

    Bottom line is simple – heads Jews win, tails non Jews lose.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  313. This is a thread overflowing with powerful comments.

  314. “The truth is that Western civilization has been steadily feminizing for at least the last two centuries”. Total bullshit. So much so that I wonder what the authors motive is? Please tell us dear sage: what was the white males sperm count in 1820?

  315. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “Posterity means the genetic posterity.”

    That argument was utterly destroyed in the exchange, as well as the position that I articulated here. There is no direct mention in the historical writings of the Founding Fathers with regards to that peculiar definition. Vox Day listed “seven instances” in the Federalist Papers where one of three definitions of that word–not one of which specified “genetic”–was used without offering an explanation how and why they fit that definition.

    One of those statements he insisted referred to direct descendants, one of the three definitions of posterity–*”This dependence, and the necessity of being bound himself, and his posterity, by the laws to which he gives his assent, are the true, and they are the strong chords of sympathy between the representative and the constituent”. Except in the context of the overall work, Madison was merely referring to mutual relationship between a citizen and the government, one that required future generations of leaders to abide by the consent of the public. Vox Day takes this ASSUMPTION and submits it as “fact” that indeed this statement* undeniably fits the definition he proscribed. Furthermore, he offers not even a modicum of evidence that lends credibility to his insistence that note “none of the seven examples are clearly instances of Definition 2: succeeding generations”. It is clear that Day sold his audience snake oil.

    Interestingly enough, Vox Day uses rhetorical use of his Indian heritage, but he has yet to offer substantial evidence that he is of “red descent”, and he has only given assurances, rather than specific facts, that he has direct ties to a Mexican revolutionary and of the founding stock. Whenever people have dared to question his background, he tends to mock them, at best, and ban them, at worst. No one tells him what to do. So when it comes to the proposition nation, one of his pet projects, he doubles and triples down, despite being absolutely eviscerated by Tom Krautman–“Posterity does NOT refer only to one’s own children, but as with the synonymous “legacy” also has the broader meaning of what we leave behind. The Founding Fathers were self-consciously leaving behind other than a genetic legacy. The motto “Novus Ordo Seclorum” reflects their legacy, setting up the mechanisms of government they invented to secure liberty against tyranny. Recall Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: “The Congress shall have Power To…establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization….”

    So, by definition, naturalization extends citizenship, and all the rights and duties related to it, to an outsider, that is, someone not the posterity of a signer of the document. The Founding Fathers clearly desired “to invite foreigners of merit and republican principles among us.” Indeed, the intention was whites and Europeans, but who imagined at that time non-whites and women would have the intellectual capacity to embrace these principles?


    “It’s just beyond ridiculous to think the founding fathers fought against their ‘British Brethren’ to preserve a nation where Muslims and Africans and Asians and Indians can click their heels 3 times say words and they’re American.”

    Unless you are able to clearly trace your ancestors on both sides to the English prior to 1700, you have to go back. Consider Vox Day’s argument–From Vox Day–“If Americans can find the courage to consciously reject the myth of the melting pot and expel the Mexicans from the American Southwest, the Arabs from Detroit and the Somalis from Minneapolis, they can reclaim their traditional white Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture. This is highly improbable because so many descendants of that culture have rejected it in favor of the vibrancy of diversity while those who haven’t are far too frightened of criticism and social rejection to even articulate their thoughts.”

    So if we assume his argument is on solid footing, then only those of stout Anglo-Saxon heritage served as the conduit to Western Civilization superiority and American exceptionalism…which would discount tens of millions of white Europeans who came to our shores. But they didn’t build that, right? Do you really think they desired to have their culture being watered down by the non-English, who notoriously are of questionable character?

    “The reason the USA and Europe are going to fail is precisely because aliens don’t adhere to or recognise the proposition of the West, created for European Christians who adhere to the Greco Roman legacy.”

    No, NOT European Christians. The genetic posterity is Anglo-Saxon, i.e. those from the British Isles. “European Christians” are excluded. That is Vox Day’s argument, the one you are supporting. He stated, ”The Italians and the Irish were the original problem. They could have, and should have, been handled like the Chinese were. But they laid the groundwork for the Jews, the Germans, and the Scandinavians, who made things even worse. And they paved the way for the Mexicans, the Africans, and the Muslims. At this point, the USA probably can’t get back to 1986, let alone 1965.”

    Are you prepared to go back?

    “What will actually destroy civic nationalism is the societally destructive results of immigration, multiculturalism, and globalism proving the concept false.”

    You mean immigrants like the Irish, Italians, Slavs, and Poles? Did they not mix and mingle? Did they not share their genetic legacy with one another to create a unique “race”, that called “American”? Did they not collectively work toward developing an industrialized state, one that sold its wares throughout the world, and forged a mighty Empire?

    “I’m convinced. How much more total destruction of everything do you need before you stop submitting to invasion?”

    Assuming that there is this “invasion”, the question is what are YOU doing to stop it?

    “You can’t turn thieving somalis into good goy Germans.”

    You mean the Germans that Benjamin Franklin had described in the 1750’s? In his words, “Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…[T]he Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted…Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion”.

    Pray tell, how did the Germans become “Americans”? Proposition nation? Magic dirt? More importantly, was Franklin dead wrong in his assessment of this group?

  316. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “Heartiste is a man who simply identified the real dynamics of female attraction. That applies to all states of female relationship whether married or unmarried.”

    He identified what he THOUGHT were those dynamics. Why are white knighting for a man who never married and has no children?

    “Married men who run game maintain the attraction of their wives.”

    Married men and women who pay attention to their relationship maintain their attraction of one another.

    “The sinful nature of fornication has nothing to do with what causes women to engage in it.”

    The sinful nature of men and women who engage in premarital relations has EVERYTHING to do with our current situation where divorce rates and broken homes are the norm. Why are you denying the fact that BOTH genders have an equal hand in these two problems?

    “Heartiste could get married if he wished to.”

    Now who is the one being a cuckold! He had every opportunity to find him a broad and raise a litter of shitlords. Instead, Heartiste chose to employ every trick in the book to bed women; when they refused, he labeled them “cold”. When they succumbed, he referred to them as “sluts”. Hypocritical, to say the least. It is obvious Heartiste’s father failed in his duty to properly instruct his son to refrain from trying to rut every women he laid his eyes on.

    “You are a globalist neo babelist. You aren’t Christian, by definition. So don’t intone Christian passages.”

    Assuredly I am Christian, and as a result, you got triggered. No doubt that is your guilty conscious talking.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  317. @Corvinus

    This is such a ludicrous strawman.

    Why would they seek to protect people who weren’t Americans from the American government? They claimed and offered no jurisdiction to such aliens. The posterity isn’t just the children of the Anglo-American founders but also their relations and brethren who had settled the colonies at the time. That’s why they referred to their ‘British brethren’. That’s also why the US was and is a Christian nation, because it was populated by Christians when it was formed. The fact Christianity wasn’t declared a state religion is irrelevant to that question.

    Recognising a separate American nation with a separate form of government meant the founders assumed more power then the British monarchy over Not-Americans?

    This is embarrassing. That is just nonsense. That’s like saying not granting citizenship to every Mexican who defecates in San Francisco is an exercise of power greater then the British monarchy. Aliens to the American nation were simply of no concern.

    You know, the one saving grace of the neoliberal cuckservative fake right in the past was that they could form a semi coherent argument, even if it was based on lies.

    What you are saying is just nonsense.

    Yes, at the founding the founding fathers excluded everyone who wasn’t American from the benefits of inclusion in the American nation. Those rampaging foreign mercanaries, the savage native Americans and even their British brethren in England loyal to the king.

    That includes also the Jews, and everyone else.

    That’s what a nation is, cuckservative. Exclusive. When are you guys going to learn that your opponents want you dead and all of your ideas eradicated.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  318. I’m sick of hearing how men are engaged in a GIANT MALE CONSPIRACY to hold down women.

    1. 90% of court-ordered child support is paid by men

    2. No american woman has ever been forced into the obvious slavery of the military draft while tens of millions of men have been .

    3. 95% of the people in prison are men.

  319. @Corvinus

    I’ll preface my response by observing that even the globalist left state that the West has a racial definition: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/trump-speech-poland/532866/

    See here. Come on. Surely Libertarians aren’t now more dishonest even then the ‘Feminine penis’ progressive left?

    Vox was not ‘utterly destroyed’ any more then he was ‘utterly destroyed’ by the neo-atheists in relation to say, the idea that religion is the great cause of human conflict – a claim that is no longer made due to his analysis. This ‘utterly destroyed’ phraseology again is reminiscent of the littlest Chickenhawk Shapiro’s videos. SHAPIRO RAPES THE CORPSE OF A LEFTIST (Who happens to be some random College drop-out). Don’t be infantile.

    “Vox Day listed “seven instances” in the Federalist Papers where one of three definitions of that word–not one of which specified “genetic” “.

    The Federalist Papers didn’t mention microchip technology either – why would they refer to a science that didn’t exist yet, any more then contemporary writers on the black death, now making a return to the West, mentioned germ theory which also hadn’t been conceived yet? They used language that was analagous to and derivative of what we understand genetics to be today.

    “This dependence, and the necessity of being bound himself, and his posterity, by the laws to which he gives his assent”.

    Who is ‘he’? The subject of the papers – the Anglo-Americans the Federalist Papers were written for.

    That is not the language structuring general relations between governors and governed. That statement was addressed to the beneficiaries of constitution alive at the time, and their descendents – who were giving assent to the new American nation’s formation of a formal state.

    I mean come on man. It’s unfortunate to see Scalia’s quip about mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie now applies to cuckservatives.

    “Posterity does NOT refer only to one’s own children, but as with the synonymous “legacy” also has the broader meaning of what we leave behind”

    Then you again say ‘absolutely eviscerated”. No.

    What was the preamble of the constitution for? To state the constitution’s subjects, not it’s objects. The constitution was written for people, not property. The preamble was stating which people. Where the Federalist papers discuss property, it’s very clear they are referring to property. That’s actually a surprisingly weak argument. The constitution is a set of high-order laws – the subject of laws is people, not some inchoate set of values, principles, philosophies, property etc.

    Why would people who had just fought a war be so pathologically altruistic as to create a document that established rights for the entire world?

    “Recall Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: “The Congress shall have Power To…establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization….”

    Now you’re engaged in the fallacy of conflating a state with a nation. The American nation is distinct from United States citizenry. An American in China is an American. A Han Chinese in the United States is Chinese. All you have to do is observe how Chinese behave in Australia as Chinese and not Australias, as one of a myriad of examples, to observe the limits of magic dirt theory and tabula rasa man.

    I don’t care about Vox’s heredity. He has proven himself to be a very formidable and courageous intellect. Why should he give his enemies information for their edification? You can keep guessing. I’ll judge the man’s ideas by their congruence with reality – which I observe as being very congruent.

    “Unless you are able to clearly trace your ancestors on both sides to the English prior to 1700, you have to go back.”

    “So if we assume his argument is on solid footing, then only those of stout Anglo-Saxon heritage served as the conduit to Western Civilization superiority and American exceptionalism.”

    No, I don’t. Western civilization is based on the pillars of European peoples, Christianity, and affiliation to the Greek and Roman philosphical and legal legacy. I possess all of those attributes. In addition, I am a white man of European extraction of good character. Thus I am proximate and not remote from the founding identity of the United States.

    You’re also creating yet another stupid straw man.

    The Founding Fathers didn’t intend a single British ethnostate, but rather, a number of distinct British ethnostates as well as a few mixed white ethnostates. That’s why the United States was a Federal Republic. I mean come on. How can you act like the US was a monolith at the founding? Again – historical illiteracy from the self-proclaimed professional dork cuckservatives.

    I and other mixed whites who orbit those centres of identity have a place in the United States. I also have happen to have English extraction – not 100% but more then enough.

    If you recall, the founders were rather favorably influenced by the historical Greek city-states. This is exactly why citizens of the USA should be praying for a reasonably peaceful breakup and non-violent ethnic cleansing instead of desperately trying to preserve the unsalvageable.

    The real problem you civic nationalists have with history is that it clearly spells out the horrors that are likely on the way for the West. You avert your eyes and offer silly, nonsensical arguments about the intentions of the Founders in order to dispel the fear that is quietly gnawing. But it won’t work, and in any event, nothing you say, and nothing we write, is going to make any difference whatsoever. There is no doubt that back in 372 AD, there was a Roman living in the town of Marcianopolis who was looking on in disbelief as 200,000 desperate Visigoths were permitted to cross the Danube to protect them from the Huns. Because refugees.

    “The Italians and the Irish were the original problem. They could have, and should have, been handled like the Chinese were. But they laid the groundwork for the Jews, the Germans, and the Scandinavians, who made things even worse. And they paved the way for the Mexicans, the Africans, and the Muslims. At this point, the USA probably can’t get back to 1986, let alone 1965.”

    That’s very true. It’s too late now.

    Vox has also talked about the structural elements of the malaise. At the time of those great migrations there was also no welfare state. Removing that would go a long way – but that would require an assertion of some form of exclusionary American identity – which you repudiate.

    He has a point about the Irish and the Italians – whose corruption has now been subsumed into the Jewish corrupto-structures. But luckily, such questions of precision are precluded by the Jews use of the term ‘white’ – It’s up to them to define what needs to be eradicated, not the Alt-Right. Person’s phenotypically white who accept national distinctions I imagine would have their place in a nationalist political framework.

    Because there is remoteness and proximity of relations. A Dane might be very different to me – but they are still more similar then a Chinamen. I’m sure a pragmatic condition will be set in due course.

    I would be prepared to ‘go back’ if I were required to do so by the rightful American nation. But I don’t believe I would be required to do so, due to my skills, partially overlapping heritage and actual adherence to their propositions. In fact, I’d gladly ‘go back’ if it meant all the parasites and rapefugees and aliens in my nations of heritage were forced into the sea and sent back to their shit-holes, along with all the cuckservatives who enabled this set of conditions for catastrophe to be formed in the first place.

    Cuckservatives who accept no nation should be expelled from ALL nations.

    “You mean immigrants like the Irish, Italians, Slavs, and Poles? Did they not mix and mingle? Did they not share their genetic legacy with one another to create a unique “race”, that called “American”? Did they not collectively work toward developing an industrialized state, one that sold its wares throughout the world, and forged a mighty Empire?”

    The Empire has been the problem. Empire always contains the seeds of self-destruction because it attracts the denizens of the colonies, leads to debauched currency, decadence and imperial corruption – everything you see in our predominately Jewish-Mason pedo-elite.

    Irish, Italians, Slavs and Poles are not Jews and Muslims and Africans and Chinese. Superordinate and subordinate categorisation is valid.

    Some tribes in the United States have assimilated more then others. The first wave is not as bad as the latter waves. Vox is entitled to his views regarding the Irish and hopeless Scandinavians. Scandinavians in Minnesota have voted for little Somalia, and it was Irishmen Hart and Kennedy who passed the 1965 Immigration Act. It is Scandinavian women who are the most egregious and vicious feminists.

    Answering the very fraught furture question of who can be American will be informed by the tripartitite poles of ‘European’ ‘Greco-Roman’ ‘Christian’ as a good starting point, and then views on big government secondly.

    Vox has expressed support for Italians, due to their high IQ’s and distrust for big government. We shall see.

    What is very clear is that the cuckservative/progressive view that anyone is American as long as they say some words once is untenable.

    “Assuming that there is this “invasion”, the question is what are YOU doing to stop it?”

    I’m doing basically everything that can be done short of violence. Civic Nationalism would be wonderful it if was congruent with reality – I’m not opposed to it ideologically only pragmatically.

    It might be possible if whites stop engaging in self-suicide and self-evisercation and form a coherent body politic that is assertive and united. What you are doing is saying to whites that they must submit to the identity politics of other groups and condemn themselves to persecution on some kind of sado-masochism.

    I personally do not wish my children to be in the position of the Boer in South Africa – being slowly genocided even as they are relied upon to feed the socialist state. Fed utter lies by a corrupt system ‘The Bantu were genocided’ – where the Bantu population explostion under Apartheid was one of the largest in world history. Etc.

    “You mean the Germans that Benjamin Franklin had described in the 1750’s? In his words, “Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…[T]he Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted…Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion”.

    And yet Germans are still western, whereas Jews and Chinese and descendents of the barbaric Mexica tribes are not western.

    Again, Benjamin Franklin was right – but German immigration was permitted, and now a pragmatic approach is required to definitions.

    Germans have more proximity to Anglo-Saxon English then Syrians and Iraqis.

    Of course Franklin was right about German preferences towards liberty, and all the other nationalities.

    But we must simply make do with what we have – and thankfully, the progressive use of the pejorative term ‘white’ means that there is an awful lot of expulsions that may occur before any of these questions of European national distinctions need be addressed. But I know that I trust a German before I trust a Jew, or a Chinaman, or an Indian, or a Turk.

    What’s most tragic is that cuckservatism has created the conditions where the individual is being subsumed into the group dynamics of identity politics. I know perfectly well there are many admirable individuals among many nationalities, but in the end, the boats are going to have to be sunk.

    The doubled population of Africaby 2050 means that Italy alone is expected to harbour 60million Africans within that time frame, either settling or passing through.

    I will not see Saint Peters and Saint Paul’s Outside the Walls be turned into Mosques and stripped of their images of Christ and the Saints and the West for the sake of cuckservative sensibilities.

    So I hope you come to your senses. Luckily, you are now becoming increasingly irrelevant. Nationalism is going to be irresistable as the dynamic identified by Martin Van Creveld plays out, and the low IQ and the distorted lens of various groups enact.

    What’s so ridiculous is that you and I would probably share much in common, if you would just insist that other people have to bend to your requirements, and not vice verca.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/somalis_have_changed_minneapolis.html

    If you want to say we must have Somali-America because Germans are different from Swiss then go live in Minnesota.

    Cuckservatism is a plague.

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  320. @Corvinus

    Heartiste is absolutely right about what attracts females. That doesn’t mean that what attracts females is necessarily moral, or admirable, or even desirable. It simply is, what it is. Heartiste has always expressed very articulately the moral quandary of the necessity of attractiveness.

    Women are inferior beings who need to be dominated and led. I don’t like that. In fact, I hate it. Being a man is a burden, so I can understand why so many men are giving up and becoming traps or recluses. Effeminacy is rife in Christianity. But that’s the underlying genetically and perhaps god-willed imperative of the female homo-sapiens. Incorporating that into my inter-sex relations, of course underpinned by some Christian ethics has been very successful.

    Heartiste is merely describing the trajectory of almost all men. Adoption of mainstream perceptions of female dynamics. Abject failure and humiliation. Reconstitution of behaviours and perceptions. Success. Digust. Realisation. Leadership.

    Isn’t it incredibly interesting that Heartiste was deplatformed, not when he was advocating solely sexual dominance, but when he started to advocate monogamy and male leadership and family for the good of civilization. Nothing is worse then when cuckservatives are complicit with deplatforming. No doubt if the Unz Review were to be deplatformed you’d be celebrating and tutting the same.

    You should be praising Heartiste for giving men destroyed by feminism a lexicon and manual by which to reassert natural law relations – which are what actually make idiot child neurotic self-destructive women happy. “I likes it when my hoes is laughing, that’s how I knows they asleep” – who ever said there is no wisdom in the black community?

    Divorce rape and affirmative action rape and welfare state rape are solely the fault of women. Cuck men like yourself who go along with these things do so just in the hope of getting pussy – but of course, you are despised instead, and these idiot women import actual patriarchies from Africa and the Middle East to put them in chains so they’re happy.

    As I said – 20% minimum of married women in the United Kingdom have children whose father isn’t their spouse. I don’t like having to deal with the reality of female hypergamy and female degeneracy and female idiocy but that is what it is to be a Christian man who leads.

    “Married men and women who pay attention to their relationship maintain their attraction of one another.” LMFAO.

    Yeah that’s it – just pay them heaps of attention.

    “The sinful nature of men and women who engage in premarital relations has EVERYTHING to do with our current situation where divorce rates and broken homes are the norm. Why are you denying the fact that BOTH genders have an equal hand in these two problems?”

    Broken homes in the United States are primarily a function of Africans engaging in their natural structure of family relations absent Jim Crow laws which preserved the black family.

    They’re also a function of the absence of Christianity – which is due to allowing so many foreigners who aren’t Chrisitan and hate Christianity like Jews into the country.

    Why are you complicit in Cultural Marxist dividing and conquering along identity vectors? I have zero interest in the gender wars. Women will continue to do what they want until it kills an entire generation of them who die in penury and solitude.

    It’s women who abort entire generations of western children every year. It’s women who import entire generations of aliens who will put them in Burkas and violently subjugate them in the streets and rape them (and they like it, and vote for more of it). It’s women who seek euthanasias primarily out of fear of pain. It’s women who seek to impose hate speech laws. It’s women who vote for corrupt government an ever increasing welfare state. It’s women who sleep with hordes of men and who initiate almost of all the divorces. It’s women who promote lies and fraudulent ideas like Climate change etc.

    Women are imbeciles. I almost look forward to white Sharia. As Michel Holloubeq describes in his works, the one grace of Europe under Islam will be the exaction of justice upon errant idiot women – but that will be a very bitter justice indeed.

    The most certain indicator of a Christian denomination in a state of disarray is female pastors, female priests, female dominance of the structures. Women destroy institutions.

    But it’s as Heartiste says. All of these misbehaviours are a desperate cry for men to lead again. Okay, I’ll lead. It’s actually amazing how things transform as a result. I’m not here for women to self-actualise. I’m here to lead. They come for the ride.

    “Now who is the one being a cuckold! He had every opportunity to find him a broad and raise a litter of shitlords. Instead, Heartiste chose to employ every trick in the book to bed women; when they refused, he labeled them “cold”. When they succumbed, he referred to them as “sluts”. Hypocritical, to say the least. It is obvious Heartiste’s father failed in his duty to properly instruct his son to refrain from trying to rut every women he laid his eyes on.”

    Heartise went through the natural life-cycle of a man dismayed by the realities of female dynamics. Cynicism and a being cavalier is par for the course. I’ve been through this myself. I’ve undergone exactlyt the same metamorphisis.

    Women need to be dominated for their own good. They derive zero enjoyment or grace out of despising weak feckless faggot males. It is embarrassing that they feel the need to import these smelly muslims and cretin Africans because of western effeminacy.

    I’ve seen it. 6 foot 5 Germans and Dutch men, huge, strong, handsome, smart – totally submissive to every half naked ofay savage. Vox is right. The Germans are suspect. But I hope that a lion arises amongst them again. I want to hear Germans marching again, taking back their country from the Jews and the Gays and the Sisters of Magnolia feminist cults operating in Germany.

    ““The sinful nature of fornication has nothing to do with what causes women to engage in it.””

    If women’s unconscious desires are met, they are much less likely to fuck other men and destroy civilization.

    You don’t understand those needs. Heartiste does.

    Heartiste will find a woman he can marry if he wishes.

    “Assuredly I am Christian, and as a result, you got triggered. No doubt that is your guilty conscious talking.”

    This is why there is going to be a Schism.

    You’re probably as Christian as Joe Biden and John Podesta.

    Fake Good Samaratinism Globalist Neo-Tikkun Olam isn’t Christianity.

    Judeo-Christianity doesn’t exist and isn’t Christianity.

    I’m not triggered, I was just amused at your idiotic conception of Christianity and illogic in wielding it against Heartiste. The sinful nature of fornication, as I said, says nothing about what induces the desire in women to fornicate.

    The only way absent coercion to compel women not to engage in wanton fornication and appetitive disorders is ironically enough to be attractive enough for a women not to stray.

    That’s what Heartise divined. And he deserves respect. Moron.

    Christian Nationalism is not going to be lose for the sake of cuckservative airs. Thank God for men like Vox Day, who win.

    Lol, white people need a General Zod.

    Trust me, I’m actually still a Civic Nationalist. I wish that other races and religions weren’t evil and destructive and really could be little high IQ proxy Anglo-Americans who allow freedom prosperity and small government.

    But that isn’t the world order. The pedo-Satano-Jew world order led by Satan doesn’t allow for this.

    All hail the forthcoming General Zod. May he conduct exterminatus on the cuckservative pedo-facilitators and satanic neo-babel globalists trying to bring a Luciferian world order to life.

    Damn, I hate cuckservatives. How I hate you spineless coward cuckolds. The Chinese have already shown that this Zionist Occupied Government and Jew-Mason complex can be opposed by simply enforcing your preferences against theirs of a pedophile trannie bug eating cannibal set of rutters and illiterates. But if Bill Kristol or Norman Podhoretz or any of the court Jews who want the west destroyed say ‘that’s rude’ you simply say ‘take my child and cut it’s dick off, just don’t call me a bigot’. If cuckservatives just said ‘no’, and meant it, we might avoid catastrophe.

    I look forward to when accounts can be settled. Good luck, General Zod-Chan.

  321. @Rurik

    They should be stripped naked, shaved, tarred and feathered, and driven out of town.

  322. awry says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I am quite sure that more members of the US Congress and establishment served in uniform than their counterparts in the EU. Some of them were in shooting war too, even now, thank to the endless stream of US military interventions. Probably more members of the elite are former high school jocks than former nerds, at least until most recently. To simply write down American macho culture as “wusses and cucks” is an oversimplication, probably fueled by your specific Russian inferiorityjealousy complex.

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  323. @Flint Clint

    A lot of this is culture based. Someone once commented to Roosh that all these PUA game tips would be useless for trying to pick up women in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia. The FemiNazis are not hoping for patriarchal muslims and blacks they let in to dominate them; they’re hoping to soften them up and educate and enlighten them so that they can penetrate with their feminist ideology into their societies and liberate their women, homosexuals and transexuals. And of course gender realignment and plastic surgeons would be loving it and getting richer, opening up new markets for their procedures and products, to name but a few interests that look for profits and benefits in this. The homo elite and lobby too, hoping for little Afghan bacha bazi parties of their own instead of it being the privilege of their NATO officers serving overseas – they all want a piece of the action. Ever wonder why so many young Afghan boys have hit the immigrant trail into Europe, and even the ones who are adults are pretending to be underage? All those EU ministers and bankers must be recruiting catamites for their pederast parties, but much is left over for the lower class molesters on the prowl around Europe’s railway stations at night. We’ll see where all this ends up.

  324. @peterAUS

    Now that dear gentlemen and ladies is the God’s honest truth. One sees it so often that one has to be deaf dumb and blind to not acknowledge it.

    Hope everyone has a Plan B.

    The BIS is orchestrating this phase of the economic cycle rather well. It will be global and it will be harsh.

    Maybe the sperm count will go up.

  325. denk says:

    The decline of [white] men

    Told you so….

    The [[[five liars]]] seem to have this inexhaustible supplies of pussies….[1]

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/china-on-the-mind-is-a-sputnik-moment-coming-could-the-u-s-respond-if-it-did/#comment-3513087

    Dont believe me ?
    Another one coming up…

    Pence the bitch,
    speech to Wilson Centre,

    ‘Im 100% behind the HK rioters in their arsons, vandalism and terrorism’

    [1]
    [[[five liars]]] = US, UK, OZ, NZ, CANADA,

  326. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    Heartiste was making subjective judgements about what attracts females in order to justify his hedonistic lifestyle. His position on the “women are inferior beings” centered around secularist pursuits. The only “moral quandry” here is your approval for such conduct and how you are will rectify it with a higher power. Furthermore, Heartiste is describing what he personally believes ought to be the trajectory of men– modern women are essentially scoundrels and therefore today’s “men” have carte blanche to take advantage of their alleged fall from grace. Hey, it’s NOT their fault women are sperm receptacles, so PUA’s have no obligation to, for a lack of a better term, “save” them. Heartiste opined that he merely gave them what they want. How convenient for him company to then blame how traditional male-female roles have been subverted by liberals and SJW’s without consequences. What “advice” did he basically offer? Pump and dump. Marriage is for suckers.

    “Effeminacy is rife in Christianity.”

    This is Christian masculinity–http://cbmw.org/uncategorized/profiling-christian-masculinity

    “Isn’t it incredibly interesting that Heartiste was deplatformed not when he was advocating solely sexual dominance, but when he started to advocate monogamy and male leadership and family for the good of civilization.”

    Only when it served personally served him, not for the greater good of Western Civilization. Heartiste realized the well had run dry, so he embarked on a new career to make himself relevant. Had he been serious about marriage and children, there would have been patently serious efforts on his part to practice what he preached. You are being duped.

    “That’s what Heartise divined. And he deserves respect. Moron.”

    No divination nor respect for a man who avoided marriage and children like the plague.

    “Nothing is worse then when cuckservatives are complicit with deplatforming. No doubt if the Unz Review were to be deplatformed you’d be celebrating and tutting the same.”

    Actually, the deplatforming is ridiculous. Let the Heartiste’s and Red Ice’s of the world spread their word. But, as Vox Day stated, build your own platforms.

    “You should be praising Heartiste for giving men destroyed by feminism a lexicon and manual by which to reassert natural law relations…”

    Heartiste peddled his wares to single men who were not Christian. The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, which includes sex outside of marriage, regardless of gender. Corinthians 7:2–“But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” Paul specifies MARRIAGE is the “cure” for sexual immorality, and absolutely called men into question for attempting to “take advantage of unowned women wandering loose”. Once married, men and women are able to fulfill their passions in a moral way. According to God, abstinence is His policy when it comes to sex before marriage. That is “natural law relations”.

    “Divorce rape and affirmative action rape and welfare state rape are solely the fault of women.”

    You mean the fault of both sexes.

    “these idiot women import actual patriarchies from Africa and the Middle East to put them in chains so they’re happy.”

    Examples, please.

    “As I said – 20% minimum of married women in the United Kingdom have children whose father isn’t their spouse.”

    The blame lays with men and women who have little bearing on how to stabilize a relationship and ensure that the foundation of family formation remains fortified.

    “I don’t like having to deal with the reality of female hypergamy and female degeneracy and female idiocy…”

    Male and female hypergamy, degeneracy, and idiocy. Be accurate, please.

    “Broken homes in the United States are primarily a function of Africans engaging in their natural structure of family relations…”

    The natural structure of African homes prior to slavery and Jim Crow laws was strong…

    https://wp.bridgewater.edu/mtembo/articles/the-traditional-african-family/

    …and Africans who settle in our nation continue to rely on that natural structure.

    https://hsp.org/sites/default/files/legacy_files/migrated/extendedfamilies.pdf

    “absent Jim Crow laws which preserved the black family.”

    You will need to prove this relationship, as I call bullshit. The onus is on you to submit evidence that lends credibility to your assertion.

    “Why are you complicit in Cultural Marxist dividing and conquering along identity vectors…It’s women who abort entire generations of western children every year. It’s women who import entire generations of aliens who will put them in Burkas and violently subjugate them in the streets and rape them (and they like it, and vote for more of it). It’s women who seek euthanasias primarily out of fear of pain. It’s women who seek to impose hate speech laws. It’s women who vote for corrupt government an ever increasing welfare state. It’s women who sleep with hordes of men and who initiate almost of all the divorces. It’s women who promote lies and fraudulent ideas like Climate change etc.”

    Do you enjoy erecting strawman after strawman?

    “But it’s as Heartiste says. All of these misbehaviours are a desperate cry for men to lead again. Okay, I’ll lead.”

    Explain exactly how you are “leading”. Are you married? Have five or more white offspring?

    “Heartise went through the natural life-cycle of a man dismayed by the realities of female dynamics. Cynicism and a being cavalier is par for the course. I’ve been through this myself. I’ve undergone exactlyt the same metamorphisis.”

    Heartiste went through the motions of men who seek pussy-plundering without the responsibility that entails masculinity and masculine behaviors.

    ““The sinful nature of fornication has nothing to do with what causes women to engage in it.””

    “If women’s unconscious desires are met, they are much less likely to fuck other men and destroy civilization.”

    Men’s AND women’s unconsciousness.

    “Heartiste will find a woman he can marry if he wishes.”

    He has a duty to spill his seed and create life, rather than being a parasite on our civilization.

    “This is why there is going to be a Schism.”

    Are you Christian?

    “Christian Nationalism is…”

    An oxymoron.

    “Lol, white people need a General Zod.”

    So why don’t you apply for that job?

    “Damn, I hate cuckservatives. How I hate you spineless coward cuckolds. The Chinese have already shown that this Zionist Occupied Government and Jew-Mason complex can be opposed by simply enforcing your preferences against theirs of a pedophile trannie bug eating cannibal set of rutters and illiterates. But if Bill Kristol or Norman Podhoretz or any of the court Jews who want the west destroyed say ‘that’s rude’ you simply say ‘take my child and cut it’s dick off, just don’t call me a bigot’. If cuckservatives just said ‘no’, and meant it, we might avoid catastrophe.”

    You have officially run off the rails.

    “I look forward to when accounts can be settled.”

    Tough talk from an Internet armchair warrior.

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  327. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “Vox was not ‘utterly destroyed’…”

    I don’t expect you to admit that he had his intellectual hat handed to him. You are his bitch.

    “Vox Day listed “seven instances” in the Federalist Papers where one of three definitions of that word–not one of which specified “genetic” “.

    “The Federalist Papers didn’t mention microchip technology either…They used language that was analagous to and derivative of what we understand genetics to be today.”

    Vox was attempting to make a textual argument by employing the Federalist Papers, then ran afoul when he offered his own contemporary interpretation as to what he believed those documents meant when it comes to “posterity”. Krautman and I called him out on it.

    “This dependence, and the necessity of being bound himself, and his posterity, by the laws to which he gives his assent”.

    “The subject of the papers – the Anglo-Americans the Federalist Papers were written for.”

    Then you are faced with a conundrum. IF it is true that “Anglo-Americans” were the exclusive audience for the Federalist Papers, then non-Anglo-Americans are excluded. Vox makes the assertion that “true Americans” are ONLY those from the British Isles. Non-Anglo Americans are NOT part of the deal.

    “That is not the language structuring general relations between governors and governed. That statement was addressed to the beneficiaries of constitution alive at the time, and their descendents – who were giving assent to the new American nation’s formation of a formal state.”

    To the beneficiaries of the rights listed in the Constitution at present and in the future with the purpose of addressing how the governed were to govern through consent.

    “What was the preamble of the constitution for? To state the constitution’s subjects, not it’s objects. The constitution was written for people, not property. The preamble was stating which people. Where the Federalist papers discuss property, it’s very clear they are referring to property. That’s actually a surprisingly weak argument. The constitution is a set of high-order laws – the subject of laws is people, not some inchoate set of values, principles, philosophies, property etc.”

    But Vox uses the Federalist Papers in his argument. Are you admitting that he was improperly employing them?

    “Now you’re engaged in the fallacy of conflating a state with a nation. The American nation is distinct from United States citizenry.”

    The American nation is an amalgamation of races and ethnicities. We are unique in that regard compared to the United States. Our nation is our citizenry. Our Chinese population traces its ancestry to the 1860’s. Their children and grandchildren are American. The United States is home to people of many different ethnic origins. As a result, American culture and law does not equate nationality with race or ethnicity, but with citizenship and permanent allegiance.

    “Why should he give his enemies information for their edification?”

    As evidence that what he says is indeed the truth. We expect nothing less.

    “In addition, I am a white man of European extraction of good character. Thus I am proximate and not remote from the founding identity of the United States.”

    According to Day’s argument, you ARE remote. You are the product of “magic dirt”. You are other than an American. You have to go back. Day says, “So I’m going to make some of you extremely uncomfortable here, because what I’m going to tell you – and this is not going to be comfortable for those of you who are US citizens – a lot of you are not Americans and you never were. Your parents aren’t, you’re grandparents aren’t, because Americans are defined very, very clearly and the United States Constitution was written for a very specific group of people and that doesn’t include immigrants, it doesn’t include refugees, it doesn’t include the great grand children of former immigrants, it doesn’t include anybody except for the sons and daughters of the American Revolution”.

    “I and other mixed whites who orbit those centres of identity have a place in the United States. I also have happen to have English extraction – not 100% but more then enough.”

    Woefully short, according to Day. You have no place here. You must go back. “It’s telling, is it not, how all of these foreigners and immigrants just happened to produce a new definition of American that included them, a definition that was not held by the Founding Fathers. Nor is it a coincidence that this self-serving definition was subsequently used to justify the largest invasion to have ever taken place in human history, an invasion that has severely weakened the once-mighty American nation.”

    Your ancestors were part of that invasion. You are an invasive species.

    “Removing that would go a long way – but that would require an assertion of some form of exclusionary American identity – which you repudiate.”

    I never made that assertion.

    “He has a point about the Irish and the Italians – whose corruption has now been subsumed into the Jewish corrupto-structures.”

    Are there Jews in your closet and under your bed? So how in the world are you going to recruit whites for the grand Civil War 2 project if you denunciate and denigrate European-Americans?

    “Because there is remoteness and proximity of relations. A Dane might be very different to me – but they are still more similar then a Chinamen. I’m sure a pragmatic condition will be set in due course.”

    White-non-white depends on context. In Nazi Germany, Jews and Slavs were not “white”. Among populations considered as white, some were deemed “higher grade” and “lower-grade”. Northern Europeans viewed Southern Europeans as less pure. Poles have a disdain for Russians with their Tartar-Mongol blood. The Lebanese pass for whites, but are not considered white. Among blacks, there were light-skinned ones who are perceived as more intelligent and thus had an ambivalent relation to the black and white community. Italians and Jews had their own prejudices not only against WASPS, but other kinds of “whites”. Ah, Goodfellas…

    “I’d gladly ‘go back’ if it meant all the parasites and rapefugees and aliens in my nations of heritage were forced into the sea and sent back to their shit-holes, along with all the cuckservatives who enabled this set of conditions for catastrophe to be formed in the first place.”

    So why not undertake that endeavor? Are you not willing to make the required sacrifices? If not, you are only contributing to the rot.

    “Cuckservatives who accept no nation should be expelled from ALL nations.”

    LOL. What a tired trope. You whine and complain like a little girl.

    “Irish, Italians, Slavs and Poles are not Jews and Muslims and Africans and Chinese. Superordinate and subordinate categorisation is valid.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Some tribes in the United States have assimilated more then others.”

    Ethnicities, not tribes.

    “It is Scandinavian women who are the most egregious and vicious feminists.”

    I thought it was American females. Didn’t you get the memo?

    “I’m doing basically everything that can be done short of violence.”

    Such as?

    “And yet Germans are still western…”

    How? By magic dirt?

    “So I hope you come to your senses. Luckily, you are now becoming increasingly irrelevant.”

    White normies are the strength and savior of this nation. Hate fact, to be sure.

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  328. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “Why would they seek to protect people who weren’t Americans from the American government? They claimed and offered no jurisdiction to such aliens.”

    I never made that argument.

    “The posterity isn’t just the children of the Anglo-American founders but also their relations and brethren who had settled the colonies at the time.”

    No, the “genetic posterity” refers to those from the British Isles only.

    “That’s why they referred to their ‘British brethren’.”

    No. Vox Day’s argument focuses on “British brethren” exclusively being the American children and grandchildren of those who came directly from the British Isles.

    “Recognising a separate American nation with a separate form of government meant the founders assumed more power then the British monarchy over Not-Americans?”

    Again, I never made that argument.

    “When are you guys going to learn that your opponents want you dead and all of your ideas eradicated.”

    All your lies are belong to us.

  329. @AaronB

    Heartiste was not deplatformed for being a lunatic, or for being creepy. There are many thousands of such people whose internet presence is tolerated.

    the chaimstream media

    Beneath Heartiste’s ridicule and contempt, there is a nugget of truth: that Jewish opinions are strongly over-represented in the mainstream media, and that this is not always in the interests of 97.5% of Americans.

    It is a taboo to draw attention to this, or to any other aspect of Jewish power. At his best, Heartiste not only does so, his verbal fluency makes readers gasp with astonishment and disapproval at the breaking of the taboo; and then realise that, yes, there is an element of truth there that you will never read about in newspapers or see on TV.

    And that is why he was deplatformed.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  330. Dannyboy says:
    @AaronB

    Good ol’ AaronB the Jew Rat.

    Friend of the White Man and All Around Lover of European Christian Civilization has just the remedy for our current malaise…lol

  331. Dannyboy says:

    White normies are the strength and savior of this nation. Hate fact, to be sure.

    White Leftist traitors and their children will die even more horribly than Niggers and Jews.

    Ponder that. 🙂

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  332. @Harbinger

    I disagree. Maybe what you say about women was true 30-40 years ago.

    But now, 40-year-olds act and dress and talk like pre-teens because that is all they know.

    They think that all grown-up women talk in creaky voice (OK. Vocal fry if you prefer). Because all they know are grown-up women who talk like that. They think all grown-up women talk like Valley Girls because all the women they know, even the PhDs who opine on foreign policy matters on Meet the Press, talk like Valley Girls.

    For that matter, they think that all grown-up men wear shorts, if you can believe it. Shorts are a sign of maturity and adulthood or something. The thing that gets me is 60 year old men in shorts who don’t even see anything wrong with it. That’s because jocks won, freaks lost. Freaks wouldn’t be caught dead in shorts, except in cut-offs on a hot day in Texas at Hippie Hollow.

  333. denk says:

    the Decline of Men and . . . Truth-telling . .

    bitches are notorious psychopaths.

    Exhibit 2001,
    Mike Pence speech to Wilson Centre.

    Imagine,
    Every sentence is a lie.

    Pence the bitch

    ‘We aint trying to contain China’

    liar

    ‘We aint trying to isolate China’

    fucking liar

    ‘IM fully behind the Hk terrorists’

    A gawd damned pussy

    ‘I condemn Muslim oppression in Xinjiang’

    The bitch is barking up the wrong tree of course.

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/08/12/unlike-fake-news-directed-against-china-indias-suffocation-of-islam-is-real/ [1]

  334. joannf says:
    @AaronB

    Wtf does ‘subtle’ mean ? Salvation from Egalitarianism and Collectivism lies either in pressure from without (which in Globalism doesn’t really exist, no NATO) or in evolution itself – that’s brutal.
    I can see Islam deconstruct the Marxist order for its lack of spirituality, but Islam is also kind of collectivist. Still, it offers individualism more room to move than Marxism does, because it has a thousand years of, if unsavoury, tradition and an Arab mentality.
    That is something… so Marxism must either deconstruct Islam and globo-homo its believers, or suffer the same fate, and sail off high buildings.
    Or a beneficial watered-down mix of both might result, like in Assad’s Syria – that would be bearable, and the “judeo-christian” bullshit would be gone.
    The London Times reported in May 2016 that female students overwhelmingly supported censorship of university publications if these were “considered offensive to certain groups.”
    Naturally, any number of truthful statements may be painful or “considered offensive to certain groups.” Most pointedly, any suggestion that men and women have meaningful biological and psychological differences, and therefore to some degree should have different social roles, will be considered “offensive.” This highlights the self-reinforcing nature of the Western societies’ feminization. A successful man might have dozens or even hundreds of children, a biological impossibility even for the most successful woman. Men’s evolutionary strategy is high-risk, high-reward. Women’s is low-risk, low-reward.” Think – we need to stop this… while going with the flow, fucking it from within.
    This is one of the reasons why I think white males should consider Islam as an important new leg to stand on. And fret not – in fact, intelligent women usually manage to make their way even in Islamic societies – but the leftist Westrabble will not.

  335. Corvinus says:
    @Dannyboy

    “White Leftist traitors and their children will die even more horribly than Niggers and Jews.”

    In your dreams. Fortunately, we all know that you lack the guile and gumption to even put your sick fantasy into action. All you are doing here is spouting off.

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  336. Corvinus says:
    @James N. Kennett

    “that Jewish opinions are strongly over-represented in the mainstream media, and that this is not always in the interests of 97.5% of Americans.”

    According to Who/Whom?

  337. @Corvinus

    Well I have to give it to you Corvinus, you’re incorrigible. If only Cuckservatives showed this degree of spirit vis a vis the enemies of the American nation, like the media. It is going to make no difference either. The Weekly Standard and National Review type is now obsolete.

    Heartiste’s findings were subjective only in the sense he was not running a randomised controlled trial.

    He was establishing correlations however. Correlations between male behaviour.and female response. Those correlations are very important.

    You must be blessed with happy spousal relations. I’ve seen countless men now who encapsulated genuine Christian masculinity based upon sacrifice, service and support be simply cut to pieces by women and their spouses. Be cheated on. Have half their property taken. Be treated like a sub-human by their wives as a scapegoat for unrelated grievances
    Those men are who Heartiste reached.

    Saint Augustine was like a Heartiste of the day. Heartiste has come full circle. He is simply correct about the nature of most women.

    Again, the dynamics of female attraction are unrelated totally to the sinfulness of intersex relations. Here, look man:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7596535/Men-psychopathic-traits-attractive-know-right-things-say.html

    Women are most attracted to Dark Triad traits. That’s why women are now saying this about cuckservative Christians:

    https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/for-want-of-a-lot-of-good-men/

    Note that she isn’t saying that Christian men aren’t observing Christian principles. Just that they’re autistic poor losers who are socially impaired. Vox defines it as Churchianity. That’s what Heartiste means. Attractiveness a substitute for observance of Christian Principle. Necessarily.

    So stop being a classic cuckservative who attacks men on the right for no reason.

    You encapsulate what Anna is talking about. Cuckservatives are so unattractive women are literally importing a different religion and races to replace you. It’s ridiculous.

    Lol I’ll find the Pew polls by gender on immigration sentiments. But who can forget the German and Swiss women with big signs saying come hither.

    Heartiste merely pointed out that women often do behave like scoundrels because it’s their nature. Men being destroyed could understand patterns. He’s saved marriages you dolt.

    And sociosexuality is a reasonable basis by which to analyse the mass replacement immigrant invasion. Men like you are so unattractive and submissive to men of other races women are shrugging.and continuing the shot tests, waiting to see what you’ll do, and your failing the tests every time.

    Give the man credit for coming full circle.

    As for the rest, when or if I have time.

    But it is hilarious seeing you cucks squirm and you try to resist the implications of the identity politics you have necessitated. It’s actually hilarious. You live in a parallel universe, as badly as the progressives. Tell us, why is Detroit now Detroit?

    And the way you fail to comprehend Heartiste is pretty hilarious. You would have been saying the same trite cacckapants twaddle to Saint Augustine.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  338. Gyre07 says:
    @advancedatheist

    All part of the NWO plan to create a Tower of Babel to replace western cultures. Pretty damn evil when you think about it. But thanks to the drop in overall testosterone in the west the perpetrators probably won’t have to worry about any repercussions from the confused slaves getting their lives and traditions torn apart by a few wealthy Jews with a hard-on for any nationalist movements in the US as well as in Europe.

  339. @Corvinus

    Christian nationalism is an oxymoron?

    Lol. Please tell me you aren’t Catholic.

    It’s not an oxymoron in any way, shape, or form. The duty to Proselytise is not a duty to subsume all nationalities. God destroyed the Tower of Babel. Every knee shall now and tongue confess, within their own separate nations – which I’m Revelations remain even in heaven.

    It’s unreal, how Cuckservatives pervert Christian doctrine.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/455157-interfaith-group-warns-against-creating-second-class-faiths-in-us

    Just look at this bunch of dykes and soy merchants. I wonder who funds them and how that money is derived? They won’t even mention the name of Jesus Christ, these fake Catholics. Neo good Samartinism tokkun olam, and charity without justice, aren’t Catholic.

    They probably have nothing to say about homosexual Gustavo Vera so high on the Church hierarchy or the Pachamama now adorning the high altar on breach of the first commandment.

    I’m a Catholic. And yes, I think there will be a further schism. Licking nogs” feet isn’t Catholicism. The Catechism is very clear on the boundaries and limitations upon immigration with respect to disruption of native populations.

    Christian nationalism not only isn’t an oxymoron you idiot, its historically precedented. What would you call for example the conflict between Elizabethan England and Catholic Spain?

    The so called separation of Church and State has just left a Jewish state. By design. And it’s also left a spiritual malaise being filled by Islam. Christian nationalism is merely an acknowledgement that authentic Christianity will not survive if it is not expressed assertively.

    These cucks and pedo fake Christians are wrong, and like the cuckservative establishment are merely afraid that their flow of gibs for importing invaders will stop a flowing.

    You are quite wrong. The truth is that Jesus Christ said every knee shall now and every to the confess. The true oxymoron is non-Nationalist Christianity. Isn’t it hilarious to see how Jews tell us the opposite of what the actual implications of the faith are.

    “And they (the redeemed) shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it (the heavenly city).”
    Revelation 21:26

    A nation is just a people. So these fake Christians are really against Christian people.

    Oh boy its going to be a clean out like no other.

    You just keep thinking it’s all internet speak projecting cuck.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  340. Dannyboy says:
    @Corvinus

    In your dreams. Fortunately, we all know that you lack the guile and gumption to even put your sick fantasy into action. All you are doing here is spouting off.

    Well, you won’t be able to say that you weren’t warned. Not that it would make any difference.

    The best part is that your kind will most likely be done away with by your “diversity” pets long before we get to you. Either way is fine.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  341. Dannyboy says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    Then by all means, go back to fucking Africa and die with the rest of your failed race, you stupid nigger monkey.

  342. denk says:

    Talking about bitches, how can we forget,
    MIke [we lie, we cheat, we murder] Pompeo,
    Sheesh , she wear it like a badge of honor !

    Pompeo the bitch

    ‘We’r 100% behind the HK terrorists’

    NOt only is this rev televised,
    The bitches broadcast their handiwork it to the world with glee.
    They’ve elevated plunge the art of color rev to a new height low !

    ‘Iraq should listen to its people’

    https://www.sott.net/article/423122-Pompeos-advice-Iraq-gov-should-listen-to-legitimate-demands-of-raging-protesters

    Hey bitch,
    The Iraqis want you out !
    They didnt give you permission to re-deploy into their country ?
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/10/23/iraqi-government-asks-un-to-remove-unauthorized-american-troops/

    Syria didnt ask you into their country to ‘fight ISIS’ and ‘protect’ their oil fields‘ either !

    What a nasty bunch of bitches !

  343. Liza says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    @Bardon. Excuse me? This is a TV show? Never heard of it before. How many times does that loudmouthed female (?) say f**k? Do people actually watch this?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  344. Miro23 says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    peterAUS: “Would we really, I mean really, want it?
    I am not so sure about it.”

    That’s the question, isn’t it? So far, the consensus is against it. The loss of technological civilization is deemed too high a price to pay.

    It doesn’t have to be an either/or. Technological civilization can coexist with an (artificially created) pre-modern lifestyle.

    Strong physical activity is the key – For example, emulated daily with a gym, group run, regular sports etc. Also, a pre-modern diet isn’t so hard to duplicate. Not so much food, mostly fruit, vegetables, meat with nothing processed.

    This is quite straight forward, and IMO if most of society somehow got on board with it, things would quickly improve.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  345. @Sunshine

    I truly and unironically wish and pray that “the patriarchy” rises up and takes back control.

    It’s going to be either Western patriarchy or mohammedan goat-triarchy. With either outcome the paranoid Chosen will be cast asunder. Hope springs eternal.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  346. @Liza

    Do people actually watch this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_Your_Enthusiasm

    Curb Your Enthusiasm
    is an American comedy television series produced and broadcast by HBO that premiered on October 15, 2000. The series was created by Larry David starring as a fictionalized version of himself. The series follows Larry in his life as a semi-retired television writer and producer in Los Angeles and for one season, New York City. Also starring are Cheryl Hines as his wife Cheryl, Jeff Garlin as his manager and best friend Jeff, and Susie Essman as Jeff’s wife, Susie. Curb Your Enthusiasm often features guest stars, and many of these appearances are by celebrities playing versions of themselves fictionalized to varying degrees.
    ……………………..
    Curb Your Enthusiasm has received high critical acclaim and has grown in popularity since its debut. It has been nominated for 38 Primetime Emmy Awards, and Robert B. Weide received an Emmy for Outstanding Directing for a Comedy Series for the episode “Krazee Eyez Killa”. The show won the 2002 Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series – Musical or Comedy.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Johan
  347. Corvinus says:
    @Dannyboy

    “Well, you won’t be able to say that you weren’t warned. Not that it would make any difference.”

    More fantasy talk on your part. You’re not going to start nor finish anything.

    “The best part is that your kind will most likely be done away with by your “diversity” pets long before we get to you.”

    So now it’s “we”. I thought YOU were going to take matters into your own hands. Again, fortunately, you don’t have the skill set nor the high T rage required. It’s all talk on your end.

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  348. @AaronB

    Yes submit to clown world. That will work. Just bury the young men who commit suicide. Submit to evil. Go with the flow. Simply let yourself sink in the warm embrace of woke enlightenment. Resistance is futile. Who needs white males anyway? Let us all become one androgynous mass of drones. I have never heard such defeatist tosh!

    We are at the end of an age. This degeneracy is a symptom of corrupt human nature – it is the dying beast thrashing about before its rotten head gets sliced off.

    You want to censure yourself? Go head. I will shout louder and louder.

  349. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    All you have left in your intellectual arsenal is calling me a Cuckservative merely because I oppose your position. It’s not a good look on your part. Heartiste based his “findings” on the past thoughts of men regarding women. They were subjective. He would link scientific studies as “evidence” of his position, only to not provide its proper context. Heartiste’s correlations rested on specious reasoning. Listen, I get it, you are his bitch as well. He can do no wrong.

    “Saint Augustine was like a Heartiste of the day. Heartiste has come full circle.”

    Just stop. Saint Augustine was a holy man, Heartiste is not. There are not even remotely on the same plane intellectually nor socially.

    “Here, look”

    I would surmise that you question the validity of today’s science similar to Vox…yet you link to studies that seemingly prove their assertions. The fact of the matter is that it is no secret that men and women are attracted to confidence. What the study does clearly present is that psychopathic men have a personality style that APPEARS attractive to women in dating encounters, and that those men will use their wit and charm to get whatever they want. So those psychotic men are internally programmed to purposely hide their intentions. Furthermore, men and women generally view confidence as a blend of highly desirable confidence and highly undesirable arrogance. Whether or not they take the next step and seek a committed relationship is up to each individual. Moreover, the source you linked to about a Catholic woman not being able to find a man is HER experience. You are taking a leap of faith here when making a sweeping generalization about all or most females in her position feel. “Just that they’re autistic poor losers who are socially impaired” was YOUR observation, not hers.
    So stop being a classic cuckservative who attacks men on the right for no reason.

    “He’s saved marriages you dolt”.

    No, he broke apart healthy relationships and marriages because he insisted ought to have a “harem”. Even Vox Day opposes such anti-Christian conduct.

    “Men like you are so unattractive and submissive to men of other races women are shrugging.and continuing the shot tests, waiting to see what you’ll do, and your failing the tests every time.”

    Yet another one of your tired strawman, which is the clear cut sign of a gamma. You never met me, do not know what I look like, nor have an understanding of my relationship history. It’s so over the top.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  350. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “Christian nationalism is an oxymoron?”

    One or the other, friend.

    “The duty to Proselytise is not a duty to subsume all nationalities. God destroyed the Tower of Babel. Every knee shall now and tongue confess, within their own separate nations – which I’m Revelations remain even in heaven.”

    I would submit that the majority of American citizens do not share the opinion opined by the Alt RIght intelligentsia and their acolytes that American civilization is being outright destroyed or on the brink of extinction due to “vibrants”. They most certainly have legitimate concerns regarding the backgrounds and behaviors of SOME of the newcomers to our land; however, Americans as a whole recognize immigrants historically have assimilated into our society.

    “It is the sacred and religious duty of every Mohammedan here to be a good citizen of America and to learn the language of the country, without which we cannot understand each other rightly,” Dr. Mufti Mohammad Sadiq, the first imam of the area’s first mosque, told the Detroit News in 1921.

    Proverbs 6:16-19
    There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

    People look down on others for different reasons; it might be related to their education, their accomplishments, their obedience…OR THEIR BACKGROUND! Pride has many different faces: some people are “holier than thou” while others are “worldlier than thou”; one person is proud of being so well-read while another person say, “I’m not book smart; I’m street smart”; one person is proud of being fashionable while another person is proud of being oblivious to fashion. Pride is an insidious, pervasive thing, especially if it is related to one’s whiteness, blackness, or redness.

    Deuteronomy 10:17-19–God loves the orphan, the widow, and the stranger.

    One is able to infer from this simple, beautiful passage that regardless of a person’s station in life, God commands his disciples to be dignified and show dignity.

    John 4:1-42

    Jesus broke with societal and religious customs to honor the dignity of the Samaritan woman. He associated with a woman of mixed origins, a moral and social outsider, in public and asked her for a drink of water. He demonstrated dignity of the most highest degree-every person is precious.
    God has commanded his disciples to love all of humanity. When God communicates Himself, when He fills us with Himself, He fills us with His Divine Life, with His infinite Love, for He is Love. He confirms that we must share in this Divine nature for God to attract us to Himself because sharing His Grace is His nature.

    All men are equal in their natural dignity; human beings are NOT superior or inferior in this regard. Moreover, God created us in His likeness. As the children of God, we are redeemed by Christ, and bear witness to His divine calling and destiny, regardless of one’s group identity and locality on this Earth. To deny these truths is to deny the authority of God. God has identified His people as those who adhere to His ways, the brotherhood of humankind. God unifies humanity under His banner.

    From the beginning, this one Church has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God’s gifts and the diversity of those who receive them. Within the unity of the People of God, a multiplicity of peoples and cultures is gathered together. Among the Church’s members, there are different gifts, offices, conditions, and ways of life. The great richness of such diversity is not opposed to the Church’s unity. Yet sin and the burden of its consequences constantly threaten the gift of unity. And so the Apostle has to exhort Christians to “maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.”

    “I’m a Catholic”.

    Not if you an adherent of Heartiste. Clearly you are bastardizing the faith.

    “What would you call for example the conflict between Elizabethan England and Catholic Spain?”

    A civil war between two nations, with its Catholics perverting the word of God for their secular interests.

    “These cucks and pedo fake Christians are wrong, and like the cuckservative establishment are merely afraid that their flow of gibs for importing invaders will stop a flowing.”

    That is your opinion, not Truth.

    “Oh boy its going to be a clean out like no other.”

    Keep larping on that point.

    “As for the rest, when or if I have time”.

    Perhaps you may, but you are boxed in when it comes to the “argument” about “genetic posterity”, especially since I used Vox Day’s own words and logic against you.

    You have to go back.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  351. Johan says:

    “Tocqueville was eminently realistic in the nineteenth century, knowing that “democracy” (meaning the ages of the masses) was inevitable. Hierarchy and a kind of aristocracy could only return later, in a very different form, in the twentieth century. ”

    Well, with the rise of the internet at the end of the twentieth century, the democratic publishing system, the publishing system of the masses , I guess we will have to extend the decline by adding the twenty-first century at minimum. Before after that, not even a seed of aristocracy will have a chance to start flourishing in situations other than in the only space safe from the ubiquitous presence and the terrorism of mobile and by technology ’empowered’ mass man, which is the private home. And even to keep that space safe from invasion by mass men and his political and corporate establishment representatives requires to set up many barricades.

    I disagree that it was inevitable.

  352. Liza says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Curb Your Enthusiasm has received high critical acclaim and has grown in popularity since its debut. It has been nominated for 38 Primetime Emmy Awards, and Robert B. Weide received an Emmy for Outstanding Directing for a Comedy Series for the episode “Krazee Eyez Killa”. The show won the 2002 Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series – Musical or Comedy.

    I know this is a fallen world, but…

  353. peterAUS says:
    @Miro23

    You missed the point here.

    It’s NOT about a strong, fit and healthy body. Plenty of modern young men have that and still lack what really makes a man. Or, better, that man before this “globo-homo” paradigm.
    MINDSET. WILL SPIRIT.

    What do you think, how many men you know would go for combat sports? Not running, lifting weights, blah..blah…not TMA…combat sports. Say, a customized version of MMA?

    I’ll tell you about my experience. From 100 modern men of the age, say….below 40….5…tops.
    The 95 uncomfortable with the idea of punching somebody in the face; terrified with the idea of being punched in the face.

    Compare those with the men who made “colonies”, from the USA to New Zealand. Who sailed over the big seas, landed in the new world(s) and took them from natives. Etc.

    Hard times make…..
    We are just “reaping” the benefits of good times.

  354. Johan says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Jewishness all over the place here..

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  355. Johan says:

    Of two of the West’s most brilliant men, Arthur Schopenhauer and Voltaire, the first anticipated the decline of society by the hands of women (feminism), and Voltaire, by the hands of the Jew.
    Let alone that these two are joining forces… an almost unconquerable collaboration, no stratagems and tricks of foul play and deceit are disallowed, but unconquerable because of the third factor, a factor denounced by many brilliant men as a system of government which inevitably leads to decline, the factor of democracy. Democracy means that you are empowered to be disempowered, because you cannot revolt against the situation, you must go to the ballot box… which comes down to the situation that you will be constantly fooled, and so you will have to continue to witness the ongoing madness, retardedness, corruption and worse than necessary decline.

  356. Dannyboy says:
    @Corvinus

    Again, fortunately, you don’t have the skill set nor the high T rage required. It’s all talk on your end.

    Neither an elaborate “skill set “ nor “high T rage” is required to dispense with cucks like you, Corvie…lol

    As far as “all talk” goes, we do know you’re an authority in that regard.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  357. Harbinger says:

    “Democracy means that you are empowered to be disempowered, because you cannot revolt against the situation, you must go to the ballot box… which comes down to the situation that you will be constantly fooled, and so you will have to continue to witness the ongoing madness, retardedness, corruption and worse than necessary decline.”

    Well stated.
    Although I would state that Democrates, back in ancient Greece certainly spoke sense, as democracy then was for and by the Greek people. There were no other peoples there, to get into positions of power and authority, to implement their cultural ways of life over the Greeks. Democracy can only work in a society where there is no ‘parasite’ tribe within, alien to the host peoples, who seek to control and eventually destroy it.
    And just as was foretold, by Enoch Powell in the late ’60’s here in the UK, we have along with the US, given the whip to the ‘pickaninny’. The blatant hatred of whites, being promoted in Hollywood, TV and the msm is testament to the warning of never allowing an alien people, positions of power and authority in your lands.
    Who gave them it?
    Who was behind all the mass immigration, race acts and NGO’s who push for minority control over the majority?
    Yes, they’re rhetorical questions as we all know who.

    • Agree: Dannyboy
  358. @Corvinus

    I’m not saying either Vox or Heartiste can do no wrong. I’m just reacting to the totality of your condemnation of both.

    It’s not a totally sound analogy obviously – Heartiste is not a Saint. But I was just trying to demonstrate to you that reform is possible and sins of the flesh don’t prohibit even Sainthood. And Heartiste’s writings are actually in my opinion more compelling at times then Augustines’ sometimes tedious solipsisms – although he was the first interior monologue on record so it was spell-binding at the time.

    As I said – Heartiste is now supplementing his manuals on how to reign in female excesses and maintain masculine dignity and wellbeing with how to preserve civiliation via marriage and monogamy, and how western men must preserve western civilization. That’s a good thing. I just don’t understand the ‘conservative’ (I’ll refrain from using the other term) impulse to destroy the good, the beautiful, and the true, based on a misconstrual of principle (there are always higher principles operative) or based on an aversion to tone (a class vice).

    To me it’s pathetic.

    Yes, but you don’t seem to understand what it is like for younger men brought up on fluoride, feminism, soy, corn-syrup, sugar, diversity, vaccinations full of unidentifiable toxins with no medical purpose and subjected to relentless propaganda. Men today can’t develop confidence organically when they have the testosterone profiles of a 97 year old man from 1913.

    They need actual manuals and handbooks on the mannerisms and interior thoughts that promote that confidence. You get it? I don’t understand why you can’t grasp what Heartiste is doing. Guys can’t and don’t and will never develop the confidence based upon understanding when they are relentlessly indoctrinated into lies about female nature and their own heritage.

    These young guys taught they every aspect of attractiveness is literally ‘toxic’ have to be rebuilt from the ground-up.

    Yes, but that Australian women’s experience is a shared experience. If you are actually Christian, it shouldn’t be news to you. But it was a huge story in that community in Australia because it stated an unsaid truism. It’s not just one woman’s experience.

    http://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/scipy2015/allen_downey.html

    40% of Millennial women will be unmarried and childless by 2040.

    Anna is just part of that cohort it seems. What makes is tragic is that she is attractive and actually wants to get married and have children, but she can’t find anyone aligned religiously and ideologically with attractive traits.

    Heartiste can help the guys with Christian formation develop those.

    Do you understand how important the socio-sexual frame is for preserving western civilization when you see that statistic?

    40% of women in a generation unmarried and childless within a decade is a world-ending catastrophe.

    But it’s the problem of the commons. No woman, ever, is going to be so autistic as to marry for the sake of an abstract. So it’s up to men in the West to be attractive, as opposed to unattractive, or these women are going to marry Muslims.

    Do you understand?

    If western men continue to behave as you would countenance, by 2040 almost half of the women in the West will be single and childless, and they will destroy everything.

    I know you’re aligned with me on the importance of the family – Heartiste’s models which actually match the preferences of young Catholic women like Anna, are how we preserve some residue of it, as it breaks down everywhere around us.

    • Agree: Sunshine
  359. @Corvinus

    “From the beginning, this one Church has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God’s gifts and the diversity of those who receive them. Within the unity of the People of God, a multiplicity of peoples and cultures is gathered together. Among the Church’s members, there are different gifts, offices, conditions, and ways of life. The great richness of such diversity is not opposed to the Church’s unity. Yet sin and the burden of its consequences constantly threaten the gift of unity. And so the Apostle has to exhort Christians to “maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.”

    And yet Catholic Spain was perverting the word of God, instead of just being an emnation of the richness of diversity?

    “Matthew 15:25-28 destroys both the equalitarian and the immigrationist aspects of that narrative.

    The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

    But Jesus replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

    “Yes, Lord,” she said, “even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

    “O woman,” Jesus answered, “your faith is great! Let it be done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.”

    Any Church that promotes: homosexuality, abortion, gender-theory, racial equivalence, ‘intersectional faith dialogue’, religious equivalence, ‘Judeo-Christianity’, female leadership and pastors, ‘Social Justice’, euthanasia, speech censorship, ‘Fixing the world (tikkun olam), immigration (which is in direct contravention of the Catechism and God’s view of the preservation of the nations) is not Christian.

    Our own Pope, with his outright Paganism and Gaia-fetish, is creating a crisis.

    I don’t mean in my opinion. I mean, all of the things above are not just heretical, they breach the most basic Christian dogma, let alone Catholic. I’m quite soft, and were I to get hit by a bus, I’d almost certainly wake up in a very hot place as I’m a bit cavalier with my state of grace. But all those things above are absolute red-lines – and I regularly see Protestants, Evangelicals and Baptists and Methodists promoting all of the above. It’s absolutely insane. Christianity isn’t a posture or some meaningless phrase.

    I will find you the hilarious material where a bunch of Jews pretending to be Catholic make money in Europe by bringing in Nigerians.

    I can’t speak entirely for Protestant and Presbo sects, since that’s always been a lucky dip.

    It is the truth.

    Christianity isn’t ettiquette.

    Will address the other points later.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  360. dcite says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    ‘The Wicker Man’ (2006). You will never look at women the same, and you will certainly never place them on any kind of pedestal ever again.

    Man, you really resent that straw pedestal with that straw-woman on it. So a D remake of a 70s B movie caused you to never look on women in the same way? Sounds very — feminist — of you. Check out Mark of the Devil (B+), German movie from the 70s, famous for its tongue extraction scene that caused screams to reverberate through the drive-ins. 80% of the 150,000 or so of those burned or otherwise tortured and executed as witches between 1500-1680, were women. Too bad they didn’t the current crop of Democrats have no such fears. But I digress. Back to the drive-in. I’m sure a girl or two never looked at men the same way after that movie; but most of us got over it, because, after all, it made the 20th century look good, and men did lots of great things too. Like make movies. So you gotta take context into consideration, look at the bigger picture.
    These media productions have a lot to answer for though. Maybe the conspiracy theories are right about the media. Your example and your apparent wide-eyed, gullibility, are certainly evidence. But, as my old boyfriend would say when he told a gross joke, it’s just a joke. It’s not real. You got no sense of humor?

  361. @Justvisiting

    Meanwhile the HUFFPO is Israel foudned by Israel and peddled but schizo rebbes

  362. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    Any Church that promotes: homosexuality, abortion, gender-theory**, racial equivalence**, ‘intersectional faith dialogue’**, religious equivalence**, ‘Judeo-Christianity’, female leadership and pastors**, ‘Social Justice’**, euthanasia, speech censorship**, ‘Fixing the world (tikkun olam)**, immigration** (which is in direct contravention of the Catechism and God’s view of the preservation of the nations) is not Christian. I mean, all of the things above are not just heretical, they breach the most basic Christian dogma, let alone Catholic.”

    No, a number of the things you listed as being “heretical” refers to your opinion.**

    I’m not saying either Vox or Heartiste can do no wrong. I’m just reacting to the totality of your condemnation of both.

    “But I was just trying to demonstrate to you that reform is possible and sins of the flesh don’t prohibit even Sainthood.”

    Except Heartiste has not reformed or made a Christian effort in reforming.

    “And Heartiste’s writings are actually in my opinion more compelling at times then Augustines’ sometimes tedious solipsisms”.

    Augustine was clearly more compelling in the written word, which is rooted in God’s plan.

    “As I said – Heartiste is now supplementing his manuals on how to reign in female excesses and maintain masculine dignity and wellbeing with how to preserve civiliation via marriage and monogamy, and how western men must preserve western civilization.”

    To rebrand himself, not because he has begun the conversion process in earnest.

    “Yes, but you don’t seem to understand what it is like for younger men brought up on fluoride, feminism, soy, corn-syrup, sugar, diversity, vaccinations full of unidentifiable toxins with no medical purpose and subjected to relentless propaganda. Men today can’t develop confidence organically when they have the testosterone profiles of a 97 year old man from 1913.”

    Your virtue signaling as far as what must constitute masculinity is duly noted.

    “I don’t understand why you can’t grasp what Heartiste is doing.”

    I fully comprehend the methods and motivation of Heartiste. His father did not guide him well.

    “Guys can’t and don’t and will never develop the confidence based upon understanding when they are relentlessly indoctrinated into lies about female nature and their own heritage.”

    You are projecting your own insecurities here. Men make their own decisions what constitutes masculinity within the basic framework. What you are saying here is that they lack agency unless they act in your prescribed manner. It doesn’t work that way.

    “These young guys taught they every aspect of attractiveness is literally ‘toxic’ have to be rebuilt from the ground-up.”

    That’s not how it is.

    “Yes, but that Australian women’s experience is a shared experience.”

    Among a group of women, but not all or most women who are Christian.

    “Heartiste can help the guys with Christian formation develop those.”

    No, he cannot. He has not repented and renounced the manosphere.

    “So it’s up to men in the West to be attractive, as opposed to unattractive, or these women are going to marry Muslims.”

    What statistics do you have that show increasing numbers of white women are marrying Muslims as a result of Western men being unattractive to them?

    “Heartiste’s models which actually match the preferences of young Catholic women like Anna….”

    No. He remains a pariah. He is not one of us.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  363. Dannyboy says:

    Hey Corvie, you retarded little cuck, if you’re going to continue with your mental diarrhea/word salad (and we know you will) at least learn how to use the goddamn Blockquote feature.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  364. denk says:

    Trump, Pence, Pompeo, Rubio, Obama, BUsh, Clinton, Mccain, Bolton, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowicz, …

    Jeeze,
    These are…
    The best murikkan males could offer ?

    These pussies had their chance and they blew it, big time.
    Making a mess of the planet, never mind unitedsnakes.

    Time for someone with cojones to make things right,
    Kathy Kelly for prez !

    https://sainthoward.blogspot.com/2014/

    https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2015/01/23/kathy-kelly-a-future-in-prison/

  365. Poco says:
    @Corvinus

    Anyone that thinks a population of 1,000,000,000 people, mostly non white, in the US is desirable or acceptable is an enemy of the American Nation and a nutter. That would be you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  366. @awry

    I am quite sure that more members of the US Congress and establishment served in uniform than their counterparts in the EU.

    And EU is related to the US Congress exactly how? To find REAL military service of US Congress is very easy–the job you, evidently, didn’t do.

    probably fueled by your specific Russian inferiorityjealousy complex.

    Yes, I feel very inferior in a front of a military which can not win a single war since WW II, fighting mostly “inferior” opponents. Oh, I forgot Grenada, of course.

  367. Corvinus says:
    @Dannyboy

    “Neither an elaborate “skill set “ nor “high T rage” is required to dispense with cucks like you, Corvie…lol”

    Actually, those two things are required, which you lack. It’s OK, we know that you just talk tough on the Web.

    “As far as “all talk” goes, we do know you’re an authority in that regard.”

    Except I’m not the one who is advocating to go full St. Brievik. Regardless, you’re harmless. You just don’t have it in you to do anything remotely like your hero.

  368. Corvinus says:
    @Poco

    “Anyone that thinks a population of 1,000,000,000 people, mostly non white, in the US is desirable or acceptable is an enemy of the American Nation and a nutter. That would be you.”

    First, I never made that claim. Second, normies are not enemies of the American nation. Third, are you able to muster up a coherent rebuttal, or are you just passing through like you normally do?

    • Replies: @Poco
  369. @Corvinus

    Interesting.

    Okay Corvinus – which things on that list are just my opinion.

    What you seem to think is required for Heartiste to ‘reform’ is for him to lie and resile from his positions on the nature of women which are accurate. That isn’t reform. That’s telling lies to conform to political correctness.

    “It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy”.

    It’s always the women-like men who are like the above as well, isn’t it.

    Heartiste has some good company in his observations.

    Heartiste recommending monogamy ‘is’ reform. If Cory Booker suddenly recommended free-market capitalism, Libertarianism and Christian-nationalism, that would be reform. Monogamy is not profligacy. It’s the opposite thing. So it’s reform.

    It’s reform. What in your tiny mind would constitute reform – not a change in the subtance, but probably a change in tone. That’s classic loser conservatism. Lose, just do it with a high tone.

    A total change in recommendations is commonly known as reform. He doesn’t have to go and get baptised yet. I suspect he’ll get there, because an empirical world view always leads to the Christian world view.

    “Your virtue signaling as far as what must constitute masculinity is duly noted.” What?

    Ah right. I see.

    So you think there isn’t an link between testosterone and masculinity. You think there isn’t a link between physical prowess and masculinity. Now it all makes perfect sense. That must be what you’re saying because I only mentioned testosterone and feminism.

    It’s so interesting when you talk to a Gamma-male Christian, eventually the mind-sludge oozes out.

    Right – so male traits aren’t masculine, got it. You’re on the transgender theory spectrum, well done. Masculinity is just whatever the feminine penis thinks it is.

    “I fully comprehend the methods and motivation of Heartiste. His father did not guide him well.”

    No you don’t. Not fully, and not partially. You still haven’t figured out that the nature of women isn’t a moral question. Any more then the nature of a caterpillar is a moral question. You’re a midwit. You don’t ‘fully comprehend’ much in general.

    “You are projecting your own insecurities here. Men make their own decisions what constitutes masculinity within the basic framework. What you are saying here is that they lack agency unless they act in your prescribed manner. It doesn’t work that way”

    No, men don’t make their ‘own decisions’ about what constitutes masculinity. This is the argument of transgender theory. You claim to be a Christian and you say that. Just nonsense.

    What you’re saying is also silly because it denies the function and empirical results of pedagogy. If you teach little boys to cross-dress and that transgenderism occurs in nature at a high frequency you get larger rates of claimed transgenderism. And homosexuality.

    If you teach children the Arian heresy they will believe Jesus and God are different beings and therefore can be set against each other etc.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/brown-university-nixes-link-to-research-showing-peer-pressure-causes-gender

    “These young guys taught they every aspect of attractiveness is literally ‘toxic’ have to be rebuilt from the ground-up.”

    “That’s not how it is.”

    Yes that is how it is. If little boys are taught masculine behaviours like risk-taking, aggression and individualism are toxic, when women are attracted to these traits (they are), some have to be re-taught behaviours to attract women.

    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/what-is-toxic-masculinity-social-manhood

    This article is typical of the type – and it’s a laundry list of unattractive cuck behaviours for men labelled as attractive. Men like this get conquered by actual men.

    ““Yes, but that Australian women’s experience is a shared experience.”
    Among a group of women, but not all or most women who are Christian”.

    https://www.crosswalk.com/family/singles/wanted-christian-men-worth-waiting-for.html

    Oh look, here is an article from 2013 repeating Anna Hitchings, just in the United States. Men don’t want to attend faggot churches where cucks say ‘masculinity is whatever I decide it is’ – yeah, Corvinus. Your panties and make-up and group-conformity are really masculine, it’s just about you being empowered to decide that masculinity is whatever you decide it is.

    I apologise for the invective, but I’m just trying to make a point.

    “Heartiste can help the guys with Christian formation develop those.”
    No, he cannot. He has not repented and renounced the manosphere.”

    He has nothing to renounce. What is attractive is not a moral question. I’ve helped 3 guys get married to Christian women I’d have been minded to marry myself, by teaching them not to behave like a passive bottom cuckservative. They were losing their frames, losing their value and succumbing to the shit-tests and panick and I got it back for them – adopting PUA and ‘manosphere’ material for them. And these are all guys who are ‘very’ serious Christians. For example, in a million years they wouldn’t say ‘masculinity is whatever you decide it is’.

    “What statistics do you have that show increasing numbers of white women are marrying Muslims as a result of Western men being unattractive to them?”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-jihadi-brides-islamic-state-women-girls-europe-british-radicalisation-recruitment-report-a7878681.html

    Remember Jihadi brides?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-islamification-of-britain-record-numbers-embrace-muslim-faith-2175178.html

    Rates of conversion in Britain for example are on a doubling exponential curve. There isn’t a statistic yet, for women marrying muslims because they are more attractive then Christians. Because only an autistic incel would ever ask a survey question like that.

    But in normal-people land, people tend to get married to people they are attracted to, or convert to religions they are attracted to (absent coercion).

    And you know what? I don’t blame them. Because people like you pretending to be Christian literally repulse both women and men.

    “Heartiste’s models which actually match the preferences of young Catholic women like Anna….”
    No. He remains a pariah. He is not one of us.

    There is no ‘us’, Kemosabe. Conservatism in the US and Europe is on the way to death. It’s now obsolete.

    Heartiste has done more for men then you have. Understanding the nature of women isn’t a moral question.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  370. Poco says:
    @Corvinus

    In a discussion about open borders and immigration I asked, “What do you propose as an upper limit to the population of the US? 7 billion?”

    Your reply, 1 billion.

    Personally I don’t give a flying fuck if they’re white or non-white. That is too many people and not good for the American Nation.

    Second, you’re not a normie.

    Third, you’re a proven liar.

    • Agree: Dannyboy
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  371. Corvinus says:
    @Poco

    “In a discussion about open borders and immigration I asked, “What do you propose as an upper limit to the population of the US? 7 billion?””

    IF I said 1 billion, fine. But YOU added the other part about it being mostly non-white, which is a separate issue. Try your bait and switch to be less obvious next time.

    “That is too many people and not good for the American Nation.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Second, you’re not a normie”.

    I’m a middle class, married, white man with children who makes his own decisions about race and culture. I am decidedly a normie.

    “Third, you’re a proven liar.”

    Again, according to Who/Whom?

    • Replies: @Poco
  372. Corvinus says:
    @Flint Clint

    “Okay Corvinus – which things on that list are just my opinion.”

    –It’s so interesting when you talk to a Gamma-male Christian, eventually the mind-sludge oozes out.
    –You still haven’t figured out that the nature of women isn’t a moral question.
    –No, men don’t make their ‘own decisions’ about what constitutes masculinity.
    –Men don’t want to attend faggot churches where cucks say ‘masculinity is whatever I decide it is’ – yeah, Corvinus. Your panties and make-up and group-conformity are really masculine, it’s just about you being empowered to decide that masculinity is whatever you decide it is.
    –Because people like you pretending to be Christian literally repulse both women and men.
    –Heartiste has done more for men then you have.

    “What you seem to think is required for Heartiste to ‘reform’ is for him to lie and resile from his positions on the nature of women which are accurate.”

    You are putting Heartiste on a pedestal, equating him to reveled religious figures–when the fact of the matter is he continues his debauchery. There is no reform on his part. He is no authority on marriage and children, as he has no skillset in these two areas.

    1–“So you think there isn’t an link between testosterone and masculinity. You think there isn’t a link between physical prowess and masculinity. Now it all makes perfect sense. That must be what you’re saying because I only mentioned testosterone and feminism.”

    2–“Right – so male traits aren’t masculine, got it. You’re on the transgender theory spectrum, well done. Masculinity is just whatever the feminine penis thinks it is.”

    I never made these claims. You’re flailing, so now you have to make things up.

    “If little boys are taught masculine behaviours like risk-taking, aggression and individualism are toxic”

    They are being taught those values today.

    https://www.parenttoday.org/encouraging-risk-taking-in-your-kids/

    https://stanfield.com/horseplayandsocialskills

    “I’ve helped 3 guys get married to Christian women I’d have been minded to marry myself…”

    You are not putting Vox Day’s advice into practice–it’s not about you.

    “They were losing their frames, losing their value and succumbing to the shit-tests and panick and I got it back for them…”

    By being an elitist virtue signaler, assuming you took those men under your wing. And, yes, that is my opinion.

    “You still haven’t figured out that the nature of women isn’t a moral question.”

    It is decidedly a moral, social, and biological question.

    “No, men don’t make their ‘own decisions’ about what constitutes masculinity.”

    Of course men do. It is their liberty to embrace manhood in a variety of ways–competitive, assertive, goal-orientated, independent, protective. We have agency. You just do not like how some men go their own way.

    “What statistics do you have that show increasing numbers of white women are marrying Muslims as a result of Western men being unattractive to them?”

    Your source is a study about a subset of women who were seduced by a cult due to a number of complex factors–“a rejection of Western feminism, online contact with recruiters who offer marriage and adventure, peer or family influence, adherence to Isis ideology, naivety and romantic optimism, and the chance to be part of something new, exciting and illicit”.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  373. @Corvinus

    For one thing, perhaps someone saying Swedes have a swarthy complexion isn’t the most reliable?

    And yes, of course the adulterer / fornicator was wrong in his absurd assessment of Germans emigrating to the USA. Utterly.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  374. Poco says:
    @Corvinus

    “IF I said 1 billion, fine. But YOU added the other part about it being mostly non-white, which is a separate issue. Try your bait and switch to be less obvious next time.”

    Not IF. You said it. It could only be non-whites because that is what the discussion was about moron. Can’t keep up with your own shitposts. Because that’s all they are.

    “That is too many people and not good for the American Nation.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    Typical of a shitposting moron to utterly disregard the problems the nation already has assimilating immigrants and the fact of limited resources.

    “I’m a middle class, married, white man with children who makes his own decisions about race and culture. I am decidedly a normie.”

    Nah, you’re not normal. Every survey of the American Nation decidedly comes out on the Nation favoring immigration restriction.

    “Third, you’re a proven liar.”

    Again, according to Who/Whom?

    I stand corrected, you’re a proven shitposting, lying, moron.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  375. Antwen says:

    A doctor should not be allowed to perform sex changes. The people wanting sex change should be in a mental Hospital. All of these people are going to hell. One good thing about dying is there be none of these people in heaven, but the big plus is no blacks will be there.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  376. Corvinus says:
    @Poco

    “Not IF. You said it. It could only be non-whites because that is what the discussion was about moron. Can’t keep up with your own shitposts. Because that’s all they are.”

    Perhaps I did say it. Why don’t you offer the actual post? Regardless, IF I answered “1 billion”, it was to your specific question “What do you propose as an upper limit to the population of the US? billion?”. That number comes from whites AND non-whites, whether it be immigration or home grown births.

    “Typical of a shitposting moron to utterly disregard the problems the nation already has assimilating immigrants and the fact of limited resources.”

    That would be a strawman on your part. I have not directly or indirectly made a statement that shows my “disregard” to the nation’s problems.

    “Nah, you’re not normal. Every survey of the American Nation decidedly comes out on the Nation favoring immigration restriction.”

    Friend, I have made it clear on this fine website numerous times that I am also in favor of such a policy.

    “I stand corrected, you’re a proven shitposting, lying, moron.”

    You’re just projecting.

  377. Antwen says:

    I want to have a race change. I want to be a nigger just long enough to get on welfare, government housing, food stamps and all the other shit these animals get free. Then switch back to a good ole white boy.

  378. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “For one thing, perhaps someone saying Swedes have a swarthy complexion isn’t the most reliable?”

    Ben Franklin isn’t most reliable? You need to consider the context of the times.

    “Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.”

    In other words, he was basing his observations about other European ethnicities as being darker compared to the English. Where we currently think of it meaning “dark-skinned”, it had a different negative connotation back then. Pejoratives tend to shift meaning. Those “Americans” of English descent had pale pinkish/pale white skin compared to reddish or yellowish red skin tone. He is indicating his preference for that type of hue. Furthermore, his notion that the Swedes, Germans, Russians, etc. were “swarthy” is probably due to comparisons to barbaric nomadic tribes, making them lesser than Remember, even the Irish who look virtually same as the English were seen as foreign, non white and different race. It seems at one point the English were the only “true white race”.

    Interestingly, John Quincy Adams once explained to a German nobleman that if Europeans were to immigrate, “they must cast off the European skin, never to resume it.”

    “And yes, of course the adulterer / fornicator was wrong in his absurd assessment of Germans emigrating to the USA. Utterly.”

    Not quite. Even Alt Right leader Vox Day opines ”The Italians and the Irish were the original problem. They could have, and should have, been handled like the Chinese were. But they laid the groundwork for the Jews, the Germans, and the Scandinavians, who made things even worse. And they paved the way for the Mexicans, the Africans, and the Muslims. At this point, the USA probably can’t get back to 1986, let alone 1965.” Interesting. Basically, a specific group of whites, in this case European, who were deemed undesirable, which then opened up the floodgates to other “alien” Europeans to invade our shores.

    So, how did Germans become “Americans”? Magic dirt?

  379. Corvinus says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    “It’s going to be either Western patriarchy or mohammedan goat-triarchy.”

    LOL, it’s not going to be either. Listen, why don’t you actually do something about putting back into place this patriarchy rather than bloviate.

  380. Corvinus says:
    @Dannyboy

    “Hey Corvie, you retarded little cuck, if you’re going to continue with your mental diarrhea/word salad (and we know you will) at least learn how to use the goddamn Blockquote feature.”

    LOL, still upset you realized you lack the requisite intellectual horsepower nor intestinal fortitude to defeat those massive hordes which have crashed through the gate.

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  381. Dannyboy says:
    @Corvinus

    You’re an amusing little troll Corvie. A near perfect specimen of a misguided Leftist ideologue, The perverted version of “Christianity” you spout is a nice touch as well.

    But seriously, do everyone a favor and try to master the Blockquote feature, dipshit.

  382. @Antwen

    A doctor should not be allowed to perform sex changes.

    You are right. These doctors are criminals – mutilators and abusers, torturers and experimenters in unnatural practices. But could a surgeon even refuse to do such operations these days? Can you refuse any services to these gays and trannies and not be labelled a criminal yourself and prosecuted and fined and jailed, even a doctor being forced to cater to their every whim? At least we others are supposed to keep our mouths shut so as not to hurt their feelings, and watch. Watch the lunacy unfold in front of our eyes and not say a word of protest, as that’s a crime too.

  383. @Corvinus

    “You are putting Heartiste on a pedestal, equating him to reveled religious figures–when the fact of the matter is he continues his debauchery. There is no reform on his part. He is no authority on marriage and children, as he has no skillset in these two areas.”

    Corvinus.

    In western th0ught there is a classical distinction between ‘is’ (positive science) and ‘ought’ (normative science).

    Heartiste is stating how women ‘are’ – their tendencies, instincts, imperatives, incentives, motivations, attitudes and goals based on their biology and common psychology.

    Heartiste is stating the ‘is’.

    The ‘ought’ is a separate question.

    You are conflating the two.

    Think of it this way.

    The core tenet of Christianity is the fallen world.

    Heartiste is teaching men the aspects of women which are fallen.

    It’s that simple. That isn’t a question of ‘morality’, it’s an evaluation of an empirical state.

    Consideration of how women ought to be, is the Christian question.

    You’ve revealed yourself. You said that men can decide what masculinity is – that is the core tenet of transgender theory. Anyone who thinks that absolutely isn’t a Christian.

    I wrote a paragraph stating why pedagogy (which heartiste provides) for men is important – because of a series of teratogens that harm development of testosterone and male psychology.

    You absolutely implied there is no link between testosterone and mail trait expression – and you absolutely doubled down by saying masculinity is whatever a man decides it is – which is the most anti-Christian statement I’ve seen in some time.

    You don’t understand the Christian distinction between is and ought and you are an adherent of transgender theory. Caitlin Jenner thinks he is feminine. You and him are totally aligned.

    It’s just ridiculous. This is why cuckservatives are poison. Your one job is to be professional dorks, and you fail at that, utterly. You’re completely incoherent and you have zero understanding of the basic premises of Christianity.

    ““If little boys are taught masculine behaviours like risk-taking, aggression and individualism are toxic”
    They are being taught those values today.”

    Okay, so pedagogy is important now.

    Are they being taught those behaviours en masse in the mainstream? No, otherwise concepts like toxic masculinity and white privilege and feminism would be minor. The micro is not the macro. Conservatives allowed those concepts. But credit where due – I’m glad to see that those courses exist.

    ““I’ve helped 3 guys get married to Christian women I’d have been minded to marry myself…”
    You are not putting Vox Day’s advice into practice–it’s not about you.”

    Now you’re engaging in a false attribution.

    I was demonstrating that Heartiste’s material is extremely useful in a Christian context. Because as I keep saying and you keep doltishly abjuring, the nature of women isn’t a moral question.

    “By being an elitist virtue signaler, assuming you took those men under your wing. And, yes, that is my opinion.”

    Lol what?! By assisting some Christian men with attraction according to you I was doing the opposite of virtue signalling. Don’t use phrases you don’t understand. If I was virtue signalling, I would have advised them to double down on unattractive cuck framing and advised empirically false political correctness and their wives would have left them because they weren’t attracted to them.

    Come on man.

    And I wasn’t making it about me – I was using a personal example to demonstrate a general principle.

    Is comes before ought. If you don’t understand this, you don’t understand western philosophy, or even the hierarchy of sciences. I sincerely hope you aren’t in a position of activist leadership – and I unfortunately think you probably are.

    Women on average are attracted to Dark Triad traits. Whether or not that is moral or immoral is irrelevant to the fact that they are. Cucks flabulating that the tendency is immoral doesn’t mean it isn’t a tendency that exists.

    “Of course men do. It is their liberty to embrace manhood in a variety of ways–competitive, assertive, goal-orientated, independent, protective. We have agency. You just do not like how some men go their own way.”

    You’ve used a selection of masculine traits and said men can choose how to be masculine by choosing among them.

    But that’s not men choosing their own models of masculinity. A man who cuts his penis off and takes estradiol may believe that he is expressing masculinity, by simply defining his actions as brave, or risk-taking, or a version of his agency, or non-conformist, or independent, or goal-oriented, or protective. But he isn’t behaving in a masculine manner, and he isn’t masculine – in fact, he is the epitome of effeminacy. As I said – you are on the transgender theory spectrum because of your imprecision.

    There is an objective truth separate from the mind of the man in question that defines the limits of masculinity. I really hope you accept this – because that’s inherent to the natural law and Christianity.

    There is no difference between what you said and what the discord trannies on reddit showing their gaping dilation wounds say. You’re revealing why Christianity has become so debased. It’s probably because you’re a non-Catholic.

    “Your source is a study about a subset of women who were seduced by a cult due to a number of complex factors–“a rejection of Western feminism, online contact with recruiters who offer marriage and adventure, peer or family influence, adherence to Isis ideology, naivety and romantic optimism, and the chance to be part of something new, exciting and illicit”.

    Very selective.

    You just ignored the population statistics from Britain showing a ten year and decreasing doubling curve for Islamic conversions among British people.

    You’ll never change – but you also pretty casually dismiss the Jihadi brides. What difference does it make the techniques used by Muslims to obtain apostates from the West? You said there isn’t a move away from Christianity to Islam, and I gave you two instances of many showing that’s a lie.

    Talking to you has been quite revealing.

    “So, how did Germans become “Americans”? Magic dirt?”

    Germans met the standards of the 1790 Naturalisation Act that sought to increase the population of the colonies with white men of good character – because that’s who the constitution and the American Republic were for.

    You’ve engaged in purity spiralling, but you haven’t explained how one can become Chinese or Indian or Japanese by intoning, once, some principles inherent to their culture.

    Germans are not American, they are German. But they are western, because of their Christian, European, and Greco-Roman heritage – which even progressives who believe you can become a women by declaration admit.

    I just laugh at the purity shilling that pretend proximity and remoteness can’t apply within any given set of categories.

    Yes, there are national differences between different sub-groups of white people, but they are superseded by the similarities within the category of ‘western’.

    If the USA can’t be American, it can have the core of an American nation with subordinate and orbiting western nations.

    Civic Nationalism can always exist at the margins, subject to thresholds. Paul Krugman when gleefully masturbating over the end of white America has talked about ratios of immigrants required for immigrants to take democratic power by virtue of their franchise.

    Civic Nationalism is no longer a viable model for the West – and it’s just astounding to see how Conservatives bury their head in the sand.

    Anyway I’m going to leave it there. Any more and this starts getting Gamma. But your latest comments were very revealing about the quality of your thought and you as emblematic of the problems in the West.

    The unwinding of the fallacies in your ideas are going to be so extremely painful – and I just hope you remember this thread as events unfold.

    In Britain the NHS has now said anyone who they declare to be racist, sexist, or who make a malicious accusation about hospital malfeasance can be denied medical care.

    That’s your future cuckservative, unless you act now.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  384. Corvinus says:

    Cuckservative is an outdated term. It has observably lost its meaning. You keep referring to me in those terms, which is cute.

    Now, moving on. Simply put. Heartiste overstates women’s tendencies, instincts, imperatives, incentives, motivations, attitudes, and goals to suit his manospherist ends. He himself fell when he led a hedonistic lifestyle. Heartiste had every opportunity to renounce sin and seek God’s strength. Instead, he chose the path of self-indulgence. You are defending a man who, in Biblical times, would have been stoned to death for attempting to bed a virgin or bang a nubile woman who was yet to be betrothed. It’s that simple. It is a question of his immorality. “Consideration of how women ought to be, is the Christian question”, indeed, but NOT from Heartiste’s secularist perspective.

    “You said that men can decide what masculinity is – that is the core tenet of transgender theory.”

    LOL, no, it is not. Don’t be so overly dramatic.

    “You absolutely implied there is no link between testosterone and mail trait expression – and you absolutely doubled down by saying masculinity is whatever a man decides it is – which is the most anti-Christian statement I’ve seen in some time.”

    More strawmen on your part. Again, I stated that it is the liberty of men to embrace manhood in a variety of ways–competitive, assertive, goal-orientated, independent, protective. These four traits are the backbone of Christian masculinity, NOT transgender theory. How a man showcases those characteristics is his own decision, their agency.

    “You’re completely incoherent and you have zero understanding of the basic premises of Christianity.”

    I’m actually quite coherent and well-versed in Christianity. You, not so much. You’re false idol is Heartiste.

    ““If little boys are taught masculine behaviours like risk-taking, aggression and individualism are toxic”
    They are being taught those values today.”

    “Okay, so pedagogy is important now.”

    I never stated otherwise. You enjoy putting words into people’s mouths.

    “Are they being taught those behaviours en masse in the mainstream?”

    Yes, by fathers everyday.

    “I was demonstrating that Heartiste’s material is extremely useful in a Christian context. Because as I keep saying and you keep doltishly abjuring, the nature of women isn’t a moral question.”

    A Christian context imbues the moral question regarding the nature of women. Heartiste is not a Christian, nor is he moral. You are dangerously hypocritical here.

    “Women on average are attracted to Dark Triad traits. Whether or not that is moral or immoral is irrelevant to the fact that they are. Cucks flabulating that the tendency is immoral doesn’t mean it isn’t a tendency that exists.”

    Women are not attracted to narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy–impulsivity, selfishness, callousness, and remorselessness.

    “You’ve used a selection of masculine traits and said men can choose how to be masculine by choosing among them. But that’s not men choosing their own models of masculinity.”

    I focused on four core masculinity traits which are Christian in nature That is the model.

    “Germans met the standards of the 1790 Naturalisation Act that sought to increase the population of the colonies with white men of good character – because that’s who the constitution and the American Republic were for”

    Obviously not, as evident by the rise of nativists in the 1840’s and 1850;s, who insisted that this group and the Irish did not properly fit in.

    “Germans are not American, they are German.”

    If they arrived here as immigrants. But their children are American of German descent.

    “Yes, there are national differences between different sub-groups of white people, but they are superseded by the similarities within the category of ‘western’.”

    It’s a matter of Who/Whom. Obviously, the nativists did not view it in that fashion.

    “If the USA can’t be American, it can have the core of an American nation with subordinate and orbiting western nations.”

    The American nation is one that consists of western and non-western nations, of different races, nationalities, creeds, and religions. Hate facts, to be sure.

    “Civic Nationalism can always exist at the margins, subject to thresholds.”

    I note that you have yet to substantially address the Civic Nationalism components to my argument. Go back to the drawing board and carefully parse them out.

    “Anyway I’m going to leave it there. Any more and this starts getting Gamma.”

    On your part, assuredly.

    • Replies: @Dannyboy
  385. Dannyboy says:
    @Corvinus

    Cuckservative is an outdated term. It has observably lost its meaning. You keep referring to me in those terms, which is cute.

    Actually it’s a very recent term, but in truth it doesn’t really do you and your ilk justice. You’re a Leftist shitbag. Period.

    Any “man” who would refer to himself as a “normie” has issues to begin with…lol

    But of course what is considered “normal” now is essentially very far Left.

    Men who are Traditionalist/ Nationalist instinctively understand this.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  386. Corvinus says:
    @Dannyboy

    “You’re a Leftist shitbag. Period.”

    LOL, you’re like any typical radical leftist, or SJW, or white nationalist, or Alt Right acolyte. Rather than engage in discourse, you resort to ad hominem.

    “Men who are Traditionalist/ Nationalist instinctively understand this.”

    That’s not you.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  387. Miro23: “Technological civilization can coexist with an (artificially created) pre-modern lifestyle.”

    The peace between people who attempt to withdraw from technological civilization (or were never part of it) and that civilization itself is always an uneasy one. Technological civilization’s quest for additional resources is limitless, and any co-existence continues only so long as its dominating force will permit. People join it and remain part of it for the perceived benefits, but even if its attractions aren’t enough to draw outsiders in willingly, its rules and regulations inevitably tend to suck in and assimilate those who try to remain aloof from it. For instance, segregation on the basis of race can’t legally be practiced anywhere in the West, which poses a big problem for those who would establish a white nationalist state. Then there’s human nature to contend with. For example, recently I’ve read that even Amish girls are coming back from rumspringa with niglets. These are the formidable pressures of conformity, to which human beings are all too inclined to yield. No doubt that’s a large part of the reason why the lifestyle you suggest, though healthy, is followed by only a few.

  388. @Corvinus

    Poor Corvinus. Everyone’s seeing through this lefty’s poor performance, and he’s desperately trying to fling poo and cover up the little boy behind Mr. Brock’s curtain.

    Stop hyperventilating, little snowflake. Just get a new screen name.

    lol.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  389. Dannyboy says:

    Rather than engage in discourse, you resort to ad hominem

    Engaging in discourse with Leftist ideologues is a complete fucking waste of time and energy.

    The current political situation is a perfect example.

    The Left brooks no dissent from their perverted ideology. They prosecute those who dare to do so with a fervor that puts any “religious fundamentalist” to shame.

    Unfortunately, the only thing your kind understand is violence.

    And that’s just what you people are fixin’ to get….again.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Flint Clint
  390. @Alden

    Make-up, especially the high-end stuff, is a HUGE industry now. If anything, women are wearing more make-up than ever; just look at the popularity of beauty vloggers.

  391. Corvinus says:
    @R.G. Camara

    R.G. Camera and Danny Boy are one in the same. Sock puppet galore. Both talk tough and add no value to the discussion.

  392. Corvinus says:
    @Dannyboy

    “Engaging in discourse with Leftist ideologues is a complete fucking waste of time and energy.”

    Except I’m not a leftist ideologue. Again, it’s all you know–anyone who opposes you is automatically labeled. In that way, you don’t have to think.

    “Unfortunately, the only thing your kind understand is violence. And that’s just what you people are fixin’ to get….again.”

    If you were going to do something about it in that fashion, you would have done it by now. It’s pure bluster on your part.

  393. @Dannyboy

    Danny don’t worry about Corvinus.

    His claim about the ‘proposition nation’ rests on one sentence of a document that ignores the rest of the document and all related documents. We canvassed that, but he simply elided it.

    The United States is not a melting pot – that was the theme of a depraved play by a Jew called Israel Zangwill who never set foot in the United States.

    He has simply ignored Martin Van Creveld’s observation that immigration is a form of war, by spouting cliches and wishes. There isn’t a single example in all of history where mass movement of people’s hasn’t been accompanied by conflict, the United States is not different to Yugoslavia for example, except that the divides and differences are vastly larger.

    He says all people are capable of universalism, which shows that he understands nothing of any of the major religions, nor of voting patterns, or of the link between race and culture. So he is no different to the progressive academics who say that every human expression is due to environment alone – consistent with his statement about self-generated masculinity. He’s an adherent of the theory of self-identifying.

    He absolutely said men can choose what they think is masculine. Words have meaning. That is transgender theory. He calls observing that ‘dramatic’ because he doesn’t know the import of his own stupidity.

    His version of Christianity is that Christians allow the immigration of non-Christians until every Church in Europe is converted into a Mosque like the Hagia Sophia. It’s that simple. That isn’t Christian.

    He can’t answer that. Africa’s population is going to double, and 60million mainly Muslim Africans are expected to be resident in Italy by around 2060. What does Christianity say about that state of affairs? Does it say you allow the destruction of Christianity? Are those 60million Africans all going to convert to Christianity, and even if they did, what does the catechism and the Bible say about the importance of the preservation of the nations? The nations are perserved even in heaven, whereas families quite surprisingly are not.

    He cannot avoid that reality – if he adopts his submissive and false Christianity that ignores the strictures on immigration in places like the Catechism and in Martin Luther etc he condemns Christianity in the West to it’s state in the Middle-East.

    The Cuckservative label is apt, because it has so much explanatory power. He says it’s outdated when it’s gathering more and more congruence and force by the day. It’s pretty funny.

    He doesn’t know what virtue-signalling means, using it inappropriately.

    He doesn’t understand the difference between a nation and a state, referring to the power of the Congress to legislate naturalisation as if that has any relevance whatsoever to the American nation.

    He is completely incoherent – first he denies the existence of the genetic posterity, then he proceeds to accept it by trying to purity spiral about it’s implications for non anglo-American whites. That contention is answered by the use of superordinate classifications and notions of proximity and remoteness and pragmatism.

    The horrendous short-sightedness of previous generations of the ‘Corvinus-type’ who allowed successive rounds of immigration including from Europe doesn’t prohibit a pragmatic response to further immigration today.

    He can’t explain what happens to a proposition-American’s status if they decide they’re going to change the ‘proposition’. That’s happening en masse, as paper-Americans intone ‘not our values’, correctly, because they aren’t American.

    He says things like this:

    “Now, IF we assume the Founding Fathers intended the Constitution to be a limitation on the power of government, as to themselves and their posterity–defined as descendants in their own personal blood-lines–by intentionally excluding those other people from the protections of the Constitution, and by failing to make a different provision for their protection from government, THEN the Founding Fathers left them completely unprotected from government, granting the Founding Fathers even broader authority enjoyed by the British monarchy, which was restricted by the Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights. In effect, the Founders and their blood-lines set themselves up as “nobility”, with unfettered rights, with all others designated as “peasants”, having no rights. The historical record clearly demonstrates that the Founding Fathers did NOT partake in such an endeavor.”

    Then says that the implications of the statement are putting words in his mouth.

    It’s such an incoherent and senseless word-dongle where nothing follows from what came prior it could mean anything.

    But it means what I said it means. This idiot is saying that excluding people from protection from government because they weren’t American granted the Founding Fathers ‘even broader authority enjoyed by the British monarchy’. Well a) no it didn’t, obviously and b) by that logic, excluding ‘anyone’ would have the same outcome.

    As I said, this idiot is saying that by excluding non-Americans from the protection of the American government, the founders were assuming powers greater then the royals. Well that’s what a distinct country is – it includes some people and excludes others.

    Not only that, the dingleberry is then saying having an exlusive nation set up the founders with “unfettered rights” – despite the fact they had just signed a constitution that constrainted those rights.

    Don’t worry about Corvinus, he’s just a moron.

    The constitution was for the genetic posterity of the Europeans in the United States at the time of the formation. It obviously wasn’t for the founders families only – because it was for the Europeans there at the time, who were primarily but not solely Anglo-American.

    And Corvinus’ entire screed is replete with nonsense paragraphs like that one.

    “Your source is a study about a subset of women who were seduced by a cult due to a number of complex factors–“a rejection of Western feminism, online contact with recruiters who offer marriage and adventure, peer or family influence, adherence to Isis ideology, naivety and romantic optimism, and the chance to be part of something new, exciting and illicit”.”

    No, the liar ignored that my other source was demographic data from Britain showing a doubling exponential curve with the doubling period reducing of British conversions to Islam.

    “I would surmise that you question the validity of today’s science similar to Vox…yet you link to studies that seemingly prove their assertions”.

    So no kind of empirical material is sufficient to change Corvinus’ self-generated ideas about the world.

    If 108 women rate a man’s attractiveness according to the magnitude of his psychopathy rating – that’s a pretty strong indicator of a correlation.

    But I guess if you decide it isn’t, then by all means, you are the source of all knowledge, solipsist.

    ““These young guys taught they every aspect of attractiveness is literally ‘toxic’ have to be rebuilt from the ground-up.”
    That’s not how it is.”

    So if guys being taught something has no impact, pedagogy doesn’t matter.

    You’re an idiot.

    Heartiste’s fornication doesn’t mean that his material about the nature of women is intrinsically immoral.

    Anymore then on the other article here by Lance Welton called ‘Are Women Destroying Academia” is immoral because it presents empirical facts about female behaviour that are negative.

    Don’t worry Dannyboy, this guy is an idiot, and his entire school of posturing is going to die, just like the Weekly Standard.

    As I said, he doesn’t understand the West, and he doesn’t understand Christianity, and he doesn’t understand America. It’s priceless.

    Lets see what he says next!

    • Agree: Dannyboy
  394. Backerout says:
    @AaronB

    Said the slave.

    Reminds me of Ayn Rand’s train riders who believed they could fit into any system as they rode towards the tunnel, pulled by a coal burning locomotive supplied by a system that valued factional (indentarian) power over truth.

  395. Sankara says:

    The pseudo feminisation of occidental society appears to me as a urban phenomenon. In a city men and women are almost interchangeable, their activities being more or less alike and the concrete landscape of the city being sort of neutral. More than feminisation I would say indifferenciation, indistinction coming close to a human a-sexuality.
    This is very different in a rural surrounding: life in its diversity sours from everywhere, insects, trees, weeds, flowers, seasons, pollinisation,birth and death… The physical male strength is a precious asset , and so is the female fortitude and poise , both acting in necessary harmony.

    I say : pseudo feminisation, because women seem to seek for an hysterical masculinity and forget about their true values. This lie is going to make them tired and unhappy once they get what they want. I think in the end cities will collapse because of their monstrosity.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  396. @Prester John

    I like to call it ” the bonoboisation” primative indeed!

    When you leave out Yahwah you create a vacuum that all the demons with ism rush in.

    Denial, deciet and delusion is not a rockband but the mindset of the mammon worshipping world.

    Ignore the logos of the universe at your own peril.

    Fix yourself, repent, ask forgivness…

    Praise Yahweh!

  397. @AaronB

    Freedom is internal, not external.

    Similar to the the old health camp slogan, “Arbeit Macht Frei.”

  398. Feminist propaganda, vilifying Men, seems to work only on White Men. The Negro is usually as sexist and misogynist as ever. The Negro personifies Toxic Masculinity, as it is termed today. I wonder why? It is a good question to ponder.

    For, according to some sources, Negroes routinely abduct, rape, and even murder White women. What is their problem? I think, their problem is envy. For, the Negro is most envious due to the fact that White women are far more better looking than their own. Negro women are, of course, nothing to look at. Still, the Negro, no matter how badly he treats women, never has to fear rejection.

    For, after all, if a White Woman really were to reject a Negro for any reason, any reason at all, she might be termed (gasp) a Racist. She would dare not say how repulsive the Negro makes her feel for precisely that reason. Still, once in a relationship, with a Negro, there is no going out. They cannot escape.

  399. While your premise is correct in its overall view your analysis is the problem. You try to use anthropology and evolution to explain. The answers are in the bible. Greeks and Romans were known for male and male and female and female lifestyles. Those thi pngs only became curtailed in Europe because the biblical teachings started to penetrate that the sexes are supposed to be different and if they arent there would be confusion and all types of vial things. STD’s are not evolution. They are a result of misuse of creation of all sorts of promiscuity and degredations. Man was created in the image of God and woman was taken from man to be his help mate on the earth. Anything else brings confusion. Granted men did abuse their power but Satan has used this to cause western society to throw the baby out with the bathwater. In Asia now too – especially Japan and South Korea (and now creeping into China slowly) the attractive men in society now are the most feminine. Look at the advertisements there and look at K-pop and the like. Without biblical teachings these things will continue.

  400. @Sankara

    In a city men and women are almost interchangeable, their activities being more or less alike and the concrete landscape of the city being sort of neutral.

    That is why we have the great urban/rural divide in politics.

    Cities are true cargo cults. Stuff magically appears in the stores, modern conveniences are taken for granted, and nature is just a rumor.

  401. @Sam Coulton

    Either you are genuinely psychotic or you’re just doing a really good imitation of it.

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