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I was recently struck by a video by the French civic nationalist and anti-Zionist Alain Soral. I have to personally credit Soral’s videos, among other things, for breaking the mainstream conditioning which had prevented me from thinking outside of the liberal-egalitarian sandbox, so to speak. Hence, while I am quite critical of important parts of Soral’s thought, I am not inclined to be harsh.

Soral’s thought is hard to pin down (see my Alain Soral FAQ, written some years ago, but which I would say remains just as valid), being to some extent the product more of a confrontational and provocative style and a deep intellectual culture, than a coherent system. If I were to pin Soral down: the Franco-centric chauvinism of Maurras and the acerbic criticism of Marx, with a sprinkling of Alex-Jonesian conspiratorial innuendo. In practice, a glorious NazBol, with a seething hatred of bourgeois politics and feminism.

Soral’s videos, in which he regularly speaks for hours, commenting on current affairs and culture, represent a kind of counter-education or alternative viewpoint to the mainstream discursive flow. In this respect, they is quite like William Pierce’s legendary American Dissident Voices broadcasts in the 1990s and early 2000s. There is value in this. It is hard to judge the validity of the culture and narratives one is brought up in if one is never even exposed to genuine alternative viewpoints. Hence why the mainstream media/culture folks are panicking at the moment: they have been shielded from serious criticism for so many years that their memetic immune systems have grown shockingly weak. So weak they might just keel over and die tomorrow, tragi-comically, under a barrage of tweets . . .

I have not watched Soral’s videos with much regularity in recent years. Mostly because I feel he’s been repeating himself and his organization, Égalité et Réconciliation (E&R, Equality and Reconciliation) has been increasingly sinning by commission on race, rather than just avoiding the subject. Too often, Soral/E&R’s criticisms really boils down to “JR3”: Jews are the real racists. Many of Soral’s followers are incidentally black or Arab. Mainstream orthodoxy incidentally is refreshingly weak in many minority communities, as evidenced by the success of Louis Farrakhan for example, whose pep-talk preaching we could all learn from. I often find it easier to talk politics with a minority than with pious whites.

Soral recently published a characteristically provocative and vulgar video (I do not say gratuitously vulgar, in addition to being fun, this grabs attention and gets the point across) entitled: “Marx ****s Hitler.” As someone who has written a fair bit on Hitler, this certain caught my attention. This was all the more striking in that Soral has previously provocatively called himself a “national socialist” (by which he mainly refers to patriotic and socialist economics . . .). What’s more, Soral’s publishing house Kontre Kulture has only recently started publishing National Socialist historical documents, including Mein Kampf, Joseph Goebbel’s The Battle for Berlin, and the apocryphal Political Testament attributed to Hitler.

In the video, Soral claims that “right-wing and far-right bourgeois” hate Marx because “in the long run, Marx ****s Hitler.” This is because, in a market society, “the economic and social question takes precedence over and overdetermines the racial question.” Race-realists will rightly scoff at such a blanket statement, however, let us hear Soral out, for he has an important point to make.

Young French nationalist bloggers and YouTubers – most notably Daniel Conversano, whom Soral notoriously physically assaulted during a debate – have increasingly been talking about intelligence differences between races. Soral addresses this issue in his characteristic semi-non-committal fashion:

Today it is often said that thought is collapsing because of race-mixing . . . the migratory invasion from Africa, by referring to IQ. I don’t say that it isn’t a reality, but actually we didn’t really need them to collapse.

Soral adds that Western thought has collapsed since the 1980s, with the fall of the Soviet Union as ideological competition, leading to the disappearance of “Hegeliano-Marxist dialectic,” which he considers a valuable way of thinking.

I would agree with Soral that Western thought has been declining independently of IQ. Only in a sick world are Tom Friedman and Paul Krugman considered “thought-leaders,” to not speak of their French equivalents, such as the embarrassing Bernard-Henri Lévy, whom Soral quotes from a recent radio interview with the equally-Jewish Anne Sinclair (Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s former wife . . . it’s a small ethno-nepotistic world): “The Torah is the treasure of the Jews and the Jews are the treasure of the nations.”

As a good Marxist, Soral argues that political conflicts primarily involve class, rather than race. He says that during their teenage years, when high T-levels and parents’ pocket money mean one can afford to be irresponsible, young men can engage in apparently racial conflict. However, with age, they will mellow and end up defending their objective class position. Soral says:

The fashy [white] student becomes a bourgeois with age, who maintains his bourgeois position through economic practices which make him walk hand in hand with, let’s say, the Jewish banking high bourgeoisie and even a certain Arab, Saudi, Qatari, and Emirati bourgeoisie. Over longer periods, the logic of class takes precedence over the logic of race.

Soral then puts the names of a number of figures (Joseph Macé-Scaron, Claude Goasguen, Alain Madelin) who began in far-right groups (Action française, GRECE, Occident . . .) only to work with the mainstream media, Sarkozy’s clique, or even the CRIF itself (the official Jewish lobby). He then mocks the infatuation of many French nationalists for the Jewish French nationalist journalist Éric Zemmour and adds that Zemmour’s popularity reflects “bourgeois interests in a bourgeois, globalist, and also neoliberal logic and not at all a identitarian, regional, or national one.”

(I would personally say Zemmour is actually fairly good although it is embarrassing and inappropriate that the media has, for some reason, chosen not to make an indigenous Frenchman the voice of “French patriotism.” Imagine if the only “nationalist pundits” employed by Israeli television were, curiously, Christians . . .)

I would say Soral has a point. Certainly, when we think of who wields power in the world today, it is not a mono-ethnic bloc, but a coalition made up of Jews, whites (of liberal or big-business persuasion), and various nouveaux riches from the Third World. If one’s goal is revolution or even reform, one must also think about the interests and mentality of this coalition, rather than racial blocs alone. As so often, elites are what matter.

At the same time, I would point out that the phenomenon of selling out is as old as humanity. The rabble-rouser Sieyès, after inciting the mob to decapitate the Germanic-origin French aristocracy in the name of freedom, equality, and popular sovereignty, then happily became a comfortable notable under Napoleon. Every man’s gotta eat and the there are few prophets in the wilderness.

One may also ask: are people distancing themselves from racial politics because race is not a vector of political power or simply because, at the moment, race is so taboo that people need to distance themselves to make a living? I understand the problem of taboo is not unrelated to that of the ruling class.

Personally, I prefer Italian elite theory. The asymmetries are such that political change is always accomplished by elites, not by classes or races as such. At most, change is achieved by elites representing a certain class or race. In Germany itself, Hitler managed to achieve a political and cultural revolution through a deal with the military and the conservative component of the ruling elite, which led to the extermination of Marxism in Germany and to significant elite changeover. Real change does happen on occasion, although rarely, and invariably some people are never satisfied.

Personally, I am wary of revolutions. They almost always make things worse. Although given how bad the current trends are, I sometimes think an outright collapse would be for the best. In any case, understanding of elites is critical to achieve both revolution and reform: Are Western ruling elites, or a fraction of them, open to a demographically and culturally salutary change of direction? The cases of Hungary and Italy suggest this might not be impossible, perhaps even in the medium term.

An interesting question is that of Jewish ruling elites’ position in the West’s eventual identitarian turn. Traditionally, Jewish groups since the Second World War have overwhelmingly opposed all forms of Western ethno-nationalism, have promoted multiculturalism, have generally promoted ideologies ranging between libertarianism and social democracy, and, without regard for consistency, have supported Israel as a Jewish ethno-state. This has led to anti-Jewish attitudes among Western patriots and led many to adopt a hard-line position (e.g. William Pierce’s fable of the scorpion and the frog).

However, it is apparent that world Jewry is made up of different factions, in particular liberal American Jewry and nationalist Israeli Jewry, represented by George Soros and Binyamin Netanyahu, respectively. In general, these two sides really don’t come into serious conflict all that much (e.g. liberal American Jewry were happy to get behind the fraudulent Clinton “peace process” in the 1990s and force American taxpayers to shovel billions of dollars to the Jewish ethnostate every year). However, it is noteworthy that Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has defended Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán from accusations of anti-Semitism and has said that his criticisms of Soros are legitimate. Time will tell how all this pans out.

I would add that in any case it is not fair that such a small ethnic minority should have such a veto-like influence over a nation’s politics and historical direction. The majority ethnic group’s representatives may well rebel against this situation before the century is up. We have many questions: Will white elites wake up? In the face of the rising tide from Africa and Islam, what position will Asia and in particular Chinese elites adopt with respect to race realism and white activism?

Contra Soral, there are situations of collapse when ethnic civil war takes hold and indeed blood or religion determines outcomes more than class. The whites of Haiti, Algeria, and Zimbabwe were exterminated or evicted.

Furthermore, it is clear that intelligence matters for much more than just the quality of public discourse. Race, biology, and genetic heritage set the basic foundation and hardware of human societies. In this sense, Hitler was really onto to something very important. Strikingly, the mainstream historian Yuval Harari has praised Hitler’s ideology for, if nothing else, trying to base itself in biological reality. National Socialism was unique, he says, in actually being a variant of “evolutionary humanism,” the ideology of the future, rather than the childish blank-slatist doctrines of liberalism and communism.

It is relevant here to point out that the two contemporary nations Soral has praised the most, by far, are Hugo Chávez’s Venezuela and Vladimir Putin’s Russia (he also lavishly praises “Best Korea,” but I think this is a semi-troll). The conservative and sovereign Russia of today reminds Soral of the Gaullist France of his childhood years. Chavist Venezuela in turn most closely reflected his NazBol ideals as a nationalist, socialist, and anti-imperialist state under a Christian, anti-Zionist, and charismatic leader.

However, Venezuela of course is economically collapsing. As a Mestiza nation with an IQ of 85, Venezuela’s “Bolivarian Revolution” has led to a regime of corruption and mismanagement on a massive scale. I say this without joy: I am quite sympathetic to the Bolivarian Revolution’s ideals. At the same time, I am also sympathetic to those liberals in Third-World countries who rightly sense that national and socialist boldness can only lead to chaos and tyranny.

A Marxist has no explanation for the success of economic national socialism in 1930s Germany and its failure in today’s Venezuela. Hitler himself would have no difficulty however. As he wrote in Mein Kampf:

In North America, where the population is prevalently Teutonic, and where those elements intermingled with the inferior race only to a very small degree, we have a quality of mankind and a civilization which are different from those of Central and South America. In these latter countries the immigrants – who mainly belonged to the Latin races – mated with the aborigines, sometimes to a very large extent indeed. In this case we have a clear and decisive example of the effect produced by the mixture of races. But in North America the Teutonic element, which has kept its racial stock pure and did not mix it with any other racial stock, has come to dominate the American Continent and will remain master of it as long as that element does not fall a victim to the habit of adulterating its blood. (Chapter 11: Race and People)

In this respect, “Hitler ****s” race-denying socialists in general.

(I add that Hitler’s racial notions in other respects could be quite flawed. He was actually also right in observing that Jews are a racial/genetic group and not only a religious group. However, whereas he tended to conflate the Aryan, Nordic, and Germanic races, genetic science has since shown that “Aryan” Yamnaya steppe DNA is actually highly prevalent among the Slavic nations he held in contempt, second only to the Nordic and Baltic nations.)

While we’re on the subject of Soral, I also mention that he recently republished a blog post by Israel Shamir, praising Ron Unz in the highest terms, for highlighting the over-representation of Jews and the shocking under-representation of white gentiles in American elite universities. The word is spreading, trickle by trickle . . .

 
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  1. llloyd says: • Website

    The whites of Zimbabwe are not yet evicted but are clearly on the way out. Haiti is an interesting case study. The slave rebellion was not anti white. Its ideals were French Rousssean. Several Haiti leaders a few years later served in the French National Assembly. Prior to the French revolution, Haiti had an international status as a revolutionary state higher than America. Western society at least its highest classes were’t so much ideologue racist as race realist. After the Haiti revolution, a German colony in Haiti were premitted to continue to live in Haiti and were quickly given Haitian citizenship. There didn’t seem to be many Fraulein, because the German men quickly started marrying the native black girls. Over time German industriousness and intelligence with native Haitian social inclusiveness led to their descendants taking over the Haitian economy. German men have a predelection to marry smart native girls if they can’t get whites. Same thing happened in Samoa. After the Duvalier revolution, the German descended Haitians may have mostly gone into into exile or were killed.

    • Replies: @apollonian
    , @m___
  2. JLK says:

    However, whereas he tended to conflate the Aryan, Nordic, and Germanic races, genetic science has since shown that “Aryan” Yamnaya steppe DNA is actually highly prevalent among the Slavic nations he held in contempt, second only to the Nordic and Baltic nations.

    Hitler’s supposed contempt for the Slavs seems to be at best a gross exaggeration. Of course he wanted to steal some of their land, but Slavs were considered Aryan, and Hitler referred to the Russians as a “great people” in Mein Kampf.

    The Soviets probably spread this myth after the war to kill any nostalgia Ukrainians, etc. may have had for the Nazi occupation.

  3. Marx Was Horrific Failure, Dupe; Hitler Heroic, But Tragic Savior Ambushed By Fate

    I think Durocher rather fails for his analysis/assessment of Soral, and it certainly wasn’t Marx who defeated dear unc’ Adolf and those heroic Germans.

    What actually defeated Hitler and Germans was Jew S A Lend-lease and the tremendous, decisive aid that Jew S A was able to give to Britain (UK) and USSR, esp. in way of FOOD which USSR desperately needed, along w. trucks and jeeps transportation–this transportation revolutionizing the Red Army for motorization and mobility which enabled Russkies’ victory over an otherwise superior German military force, pure and simple.

    IT WASN’T MARX THAT DEFEATED HITLER. Hitler and Germans simply did not realize the tremendous productive capacity of Jew S A and its effect in bolstering, even rejuvenating the Red military effort. For otherwise, Hitler and General staff rightly thought they’d delivered death-blows–they just under-estimated Jew S A supply and logistics. The great German envelopment tactics of ’41 and ’42 gave-out in attrition, the Russkies now too quick, agile, and mobile w. all the Jeeps and trucks they had fm Jew S A.

    Otherwise, the large cultural force in play was globalist, socialist world-dictatorship of United Nations (UN) vs. the honest, patriotic nationalist ideal of Germany, Germans terribly out-numbered, but Marx was surely not responsible for that globalist victory either–rather, it was the tremendous capitalist productive output of Jew S A.–yes, even though that capitalist structured economic power was harnessed in socialist form and motivation, at least at top leadership levels further extended down through the bureaucracy, including public edjumacation.

    In the larger view, Oswald Spengler provides best context and grasp of CYCLIC “Decline of the West,” Western reason and individualism, founded upon Aristotelian objectivity, thus spiritual health declining in Judaic SUBJECTIVISM and Talmudic MIDRASH (interpretation), this upon the specific, putrid, mystic moralism, Pharisaism and altruist collectivism giving rise to guilt-complex and virtue-signaling which everyone so indulges in this moronic day and age.

    For note racialism is founded in DETERMINISM, absolute cause-effect, which necessarily follows fm objectivity. But fm time of Rousseau and the Scottish “moral sentimentalists” of Smith and Hume, then through German transcendentalism beginning w. Kant and Kantian Pharisaism, Western culture and reason were doomed. And note further, Christian culture had also been horrifically subverted by the Jew Rothschild take-over of Vatican finances in 1824–as such take-over had earlier triumphed over Western economics since the Bank of England criminal enterprise of 1694 featuring fiat-currency.

    Don’t forget Marx upheld the out-moded “labor” theory of value which was decisively replaced by “marginal utility,” the pt. being that “value” is subjective. It doesn’t matter the great labor I might put into making of mud-pies–they’re worthless, regardless all the labor and work I did. What determines value is SUBJECTIVE in accord w. DEMAND of the market. And labor is most affected by the product of the mind and the tools which are placed in workers’ hands by the entrepreneurs and capitalists–as the Austrian school teach (even though so many of them were Jews, yes, I know).

    So what we see fm history is that Hitler did magnificently for leadership and revisionism of the utterly corrupt Versailles treaty, Germany traduced by the British-French-Russian conspiracy to start WWI–see Docherty and MacGregor’s “Hidden History,” the Entente conspiracy well known and exposed by the mid 1920s–EVERYONE knew how thoroughly CORRUPT was Versailles treaty–which conspiracy of lies is still carried on today by the Jew-centric, Jew-oriented history and edjumacation in the idiot factories called “public education” and popular culture.

    Observe how Austrian Archduke, Franz Ferdinand was assassinated, then Austria and Germany were attacked. Note how historical events and circumstances of WWI are so mysterious and unknown today, esp. in comparison w. the factoids and details of WWII and the glorious Bolshevik revolution, etc.

    So much for Soral and Durocher who try their best, surely, but are merely instructive for their failures. Marx merely carried-on the putrid moralist tradition of Scottish sentimentalists, Rousseau, and then German transcendental nonsense and mysticism which gave us modern statism, fascism, and genocidal socialism of present-day Agenda-21, -2030, “population-reduction,” and world dictatorship.

  4. @llloyd

    Wow Llloyd, that’s amazing and very interesting info–which I’ve not hrd–about the German colony, anyway. I only wish u could have given some references–not that I don’t credit ur excellent expo, but it only makes me eager to get more details–u leave us in the lurch. Don’t hesitate to tell us more.

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  5. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    OK, having read the article: what’s with the asterisks? I honestly don’t know if this a cleaned up vulgarism or some other wink-wink.

    It’s already hard enough reading a Frenchman writing about the political philosophy of another. (“Hence, while I am quite critical of important parts of Soral’s thought, I am not inclined to be harsh.”)

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @Kula
  6. We really have to think of a better portmanteau than ‘ethno-nepotism’. Maybe ethnotism? Epnotism?

    BTW, I, too, have noticed what seems to be a growing schism between the (((zionists))) on the one hand, and the (((globalists))) on the other. I am now convinced that this schism is genuine and not, as I previously thought, a mere ruse to fool the goyim. But I am still not sure how to proceed. My instincts tell me to be skeptical and cautious. I grew up watching the Rapture-Christians in my country get thoroughly co-opted by the zionists, only to be ditched when they were of no further use. A generation later, we still have federally-mandated abortion, no prayer in school, and now we have homosexual ‘marriage’ and tranny bathrooms to boot! So I am very reluctant to reflexively take the side of the zionists (as so many alt-righters are doing) only to end up like the Rapture-Christians.

    For the moment, I am remaining aloof from this intra-Jewish spat, waiting to see if either side will offer us anything of value up front — not just empty promises. Alternatively, it may well be in our interest simply to keep the conflict going as long as possible so as to weaken both sides. Hopefully, along the way, they will air a lot of dirty laundry about each other that will red-pill more and more people. We shall see …

    • Replies: @m___
  7. Tulip says:

    First there is a question of goals: is it to overtake the whole, or break away a part?

    It would seem that taking the whole should be the first, and the part only a secondary path if the first fails.

    In terms of party, the party that would seize the whole must contain the whole, so that party in a melting pot would contain most of the contents of the pot. This does not preclude rank nor, of course, enemies of the party.

    A nationalism that is self-limiting is not a useful tool. Soral understands this reality, his detractors less so.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  8. Always the stupid white trash… irrational when on sensitive mood or when on insensitive one…

  9. m___ says:
    @llloyd

    “The data on Haiti regarding a Colony of Germans needs confirmation. As far as our knowledge goes, the information is a complete falsehood.

  10. fnn says:

    The translator of a recent Russian book on race says NS anthropologists said that Germans and Russians were racially indistinguishable:
    https://americanfreepress.net/audio-interview-obvious-racial-differences-explored/


    The poor treatment of (some) Slavic peoples was probably due mostly to geopolitical strategy (seemingly wrong-headed, given the results) and resource shortages. Even at its peak, the Nazi empire never had anything remotely comparable to the Texas oilfields or the Midwestern Breadbasket. Also, of course, what’s in academic papers is interpreted in a cruder fashion in the field

  11. @apollonian

    Austrian School? Wow. Are we like the only country on earth where even the National Socialists are closet-Libertarians? Neo-liberalism sucks, and Classical Liberalism–alas!–is just a fantasy. Personally, I think a certain amount of state planning (and in some cases, outright state-ownership) is perfectly defensible, even necessary. Call it NS, call it Fordism, call it Ordo-Liberalism, call it dirigisme, call it what you like. It’s essential to keep control over the economy to make sure that, among other things, (((certain special interests))) can’t get hold of it and f*ck your people over.

    Don’t ever assume that just because you aren’t running the macro-economy, nobody else is. Somebody will always be running the show. If you’re lucky, they’ll be drawn from your ranks and they’ll give a hoot about you and yours. I’d trust people like that much more than some ‘free’ market fairy.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  12. m___ says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    What about the kitchen and the cooks within unz.com. Is it meant to be a ruse, beating the Goyim at writing the Goyim argumentation. As far as the comments section, are the commenters conscious that the restaurant they table at, is “kosher”.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  13. @fnn

    “Even at its peak, the Nazi empire never had anything remotely comparable to the Texas oilfields or the Midwestern Breadbasket.”

    In the opening chapters of his military history of WW II, “History of the Second World War”, the British military theorist and historian, B. H. Liddell Hart, describes the raw materials and manufacturing capacities that are absolutely essential to waging, let alone winning, a large and prolonged modern war. He demonstrates that when Germany went to war the country was deficient in almost all these capacities. To cite just one example, limitations on manufacturing capacity and petroleum supplies meant that throughout the war German logistics were still heavily dependent on horses and horse drawn vehicles.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Wally
  14. @m___

    What about the kitchen and the cooks within unz.com. Is it meant to be a ruse, beating the Goyim at writing the Goyim argumentation. As far as the comments section, are the commenters conscious that the restaurant they table at, is “kosher”.

    That’s a fair question, and I think many of us here have asked ourselves that, so I will give you an answer at length.

    For my part, I am not only totally comfortable with patronizing Unz. com, I am actually a huge admirer of his. At present, this is the single best English-language website on the internet–bar none. Should it matter that Ron Unz is Jewish? Well, FWIW he’s been totally candid about his background and his feelings towards many of the negative aspects of the Ashkenazic Jewish culture. And so, because he has engaged in some honest soul-searching, done his homework and been completely open with us, I trust him. He’s done us all a great service, so that needs to be respected. (Incidentally, I feel the exact same way towards certain other ‘ex-Jews,’ such as Israel Shamir and Gilad Atzmon.)

    As far as “beating the goyim” is concerned, well no. In his essay’s, Unz usually cites loads of sources, many (if not most) of them goyishe.

    Is Unz playing the proverbial gatekeeper here? Hardly. On this site, basically no subject is off-limits. Unz himself has even broached the ultimate taboos, such as the questionable nature of the ‘holocaust’ and even possible child-sacrifice by medieval Talmudic Jews–the so-called ‘blood libel’. I mean, after that, what’s left?

    Do I get the feeling that Unz has ulterior motives? No, not at all. How could he possibly benefit personally from this? At some point, it may even hurt his business. Granted, I don’t think it’s hurt his business yet, and for now at least even the ADL seems rather reluctant to attack him openly. But it’s still hard to see how he profits from all this. I mean, he’s certainly not doing this for a living like Alex Jones (who never, ever touches the JQ.)

    So what does motivate Unz? I’m not a mind-reader, so I can’t profess to know for sure. But I have followed his career casually, out of the corner of my eye (so to speak) for more than 20 years now, and I think I may now have a little bit of a feel for him. I remember his ‘English for the Children’ campaign in California back in the 90s; I remember how, during the darkest days of the abominable Bush administration, he co-founded American Conservative, an effective anti-war site featuring top-notch contributors; and I have now seen him blossom as a writer/researcher after founding Unz.com.

    My summary judgement is that Ron Unz is motived by the following things in the following order: 1.) free speech; 2.) empirical inquiry; 3.) a sense of civic duty to his immediate community and to his country. (It’s possible I got the order of #1 and #2 backward. They sort of go hand-in-hand anyway.)

    In the final assessment, we can’t ask someone to have been born something other than what they are. If they are willing to put all that aside and do the right thing anyway, then I think that deserves our respect and, in this case, gratitude.

    • Replies: @Herald
    , @Kratoklastes
    , @m___
  15. @apollonian

    Hitler was defeated by soviet armies. They had thousands of russian made T34, patriotic soldiers (more than 10 millions died, against around 0.1 million from US), and smart generals.

    The lend-lease, the trucks and jeeps, and blahblah…. Their effect is a myth. That’s a meme which has been propagated as soon as the USSR went down around 1990 (thus, there was no more powerful voice to contradict the lies).

    Americans can’t stand the truth: they did almost nothing, waiting comfortably for Europe to be completely devasted, then coming near the end to reap the bounty of the winner.
    This disgusting behavior had to be hidden by myths such as the truck/jeep meme.

    The truth was known by everybody in Europe after the war. Of course the British gave more responsibility to UK for defeating Hitler, as Russians were doing for their side. But almost nobody thought that America was the one who defeated Hitler.
    Then gradually, the american (hollywood) propaganda rewrote the history, and the american made myth became the believed truth.

  16. RobinG says:

    I am not inclined to be harsh.

    Pity. Wanker Soral…. what a poser.

  17. @fnn

    Seems quite true: Hitler did not want a Russian State period as incompatible with Germany’s security and ambition of being an autarkic superpower.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  18. …praising Ron Unz in the highest terms, for highlighting the over-representation of Jews and the shocking under-representation of white gentiles in American elite universities.

    Catholics were also less-than-welcome at those institutions, and they responded by building a huge network of their own.

    The “elite” universities basically started their slow suicide the day they stopped requiring chapel attendance. Almost all of the private ones were vigorously sectarian at their founding. They all betrayed their inceptive principles.

    So if it weren’t Jews, it would be Confucianists and Hindus and atheists.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  19. @JLK

    I disagree.

    There is no doubt that Germans, particularly from certain regions of Germany, looked down upon Slavs.

    There has to be some explanation for why Russian deserters who volunteered for German forces were hardly used.

    As for German regional bias against Slavs, Austria, for one example, in the 1800s treated the Serbs almost as poorly as the Ottomans did.

  20. @Guillaume Durocher

    As you should, Mr. Durocher.

    I appreciate that.

    I have lots of religious friends who are possible “red-pill” candidates who simply do not like vulgar language. And it is their right to dislike it. So your censors are helpful.

    As for me, I’m not especially offended by vulgar language, but, I would hope that if we ever have a more civilized society, we can use it less.

  21. Mw says: • Website

    Bullshit! Soral’s followers are mainly white and if the far right ! Doral is no friend of the minorities you are talking about. You must not have the tool to understand him or you are one jew who tend to use minorities as a scapegoat!

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  22. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:

    The majority ethnic group’s representatives may well rebel against this situation before the century is up. We have many questions: Will white elites wake up?

    .

    Wake up from what? They are to fhe Jewish frontrunning elite as a loyal captain in second to fhe first captain. They are allies, ability determining hierarchy, the second in ability genuinely admiring the first.
    One could cite many examples alongside the Manhattan Project — showing that without the Jewish elite propelling action and managerial skills, the White (Anglo-American) elite would have been less powerful (in international terms) than it has with them.

    And think of what place Germany would likely have occupied in the 20th and 21 century geopolitics, if Hitler’s party would have sealed an alliance with the German Jewish elite (thus Jewish scientists, including the Manhattan Project’s).

  23. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    But an “encule” escaped your supervision somehow (it’s in the screen image to be fair, but…).

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  24. JLK says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    There is no doubt that Germans, particularly from certain regions of Germany, looked down upon Slavs.

    I’m sure some Germans looked down on Poles, Ukrainians and Russians, like Americans who used to tell Polish jokes, but that’s different from considering them racially inferior.

    There were reasons to feel culturally superior. Germany was far wealthier and the people better educated than in Poland or Ukraine. Their houses were nicer, with indoor toilets, and their farms neater and better managed. The Red Army soldiers were astounded by how well Germans lived when they finally reached German soil.

    There has to be some explanation for why Russian deserters who volunteered for German forces were hardly used.

    They probably didn’t trust Vlasov and his crew until they were forced to out of desperation. He ended up turning on them anyway, proving it was a bad idea.

    As for German regional bias against Slavs, Austria, for one example, in the 1800s treated the Serbs almost as poorly as the Ottomans did.

    It was the same throughout Eastern Europe until modern times. Poland occupied parts of the Ukraine after the brief war with the Red Army and immediately started Polonizing the areas. Ethnic Germans were expelled from East Prussia, Silesia and the Sudetenland in 1945.

  25. @Parisian Guy

    I agree that the USSR played a huge role in defeating Germany, but not in the way people think. If Stalin hadn’t been planning to stab Hitler in the back by invading Germany, Hitler would not have had to pre-emptively attack him, thus keeping the war to a single front.
    Furthermore, if Stalin hadn’t positioned for his forces for invasion rather than defense, the Soviets would have incurred much smaller losses even if Hitler had still decided to invade.

    • Agree: Mike P
  26. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    So-called secular West isn’t really secular or irreligious. Just like the supposedly atheist Soviet Union required all to worship Marx and Lenin(and Stalin during the Stalinist era), the current West has erected new quasi-gods and neo-idols for all to worship.
    And you better worship.

    If you badmouth MLK or Mandela, if you mock homos and trannies, or if you criticize Jews or certain favored groups, you are not regarded as a free thinker with a mind of one’s own but a blasphemer. ‘Hate’ is the new blasphemy. We have Hatesphemy Laws or Pressure that says we must love, love, and love certain idols and certain peoples. These ‘protected’ groups are promoted and put on the pedestal. They are more equal than others.

    So many white people got suckered by Liberalism. They thought the fall of Christianity would mean equal freedom for all in speech and expression based on liberty, individuality, and reason, but not so.

    One thing for sure, Jewish Power doesn’t want to be criticized. It wants to be worshiped and obeyed. And so, there are Hatesphemy laws or pressures against noticing Jewish Power and its globohomo allies. It says Kill All Hatesphemers.

  27. llloyd says: • Website
    @m___

    Wikipedia: Germans in Haiti. Unless it is all made up which is unlikely. Who would bother? The German colony was like the German colony in Palestine that grew jaffas. The German colony were humble hard working Germnans. In 1804, they were given Haitian citizenship by the revolutionary Government. They may have had slaves but everyone of means in those times did as artisan indentured servants. They married black girls. Their descendants did not normally descend deeper into the black population but formed an elite mulatto French Creole speaking small population. There was Werner Jaegenhuber who was Haiti’s most famous classical music composer. By 1910 Haitian German descendants ran an estimated 80 percent of Haiti’s international commerce. His father was a naturalised white American who married a German descended Haiti mulatto. Haiti history is not all bad. Really not sub Sahara Africa.

  28. llloyd says: • Website
    @apollonian

    The German colony was very small. They were in character with small German colonies of pious hard working populations that emigrated to many far away places in the world. The point I am trying to make is the Haitian revolutionaries were mulatos. They were mostly a free population but were denied French citizenship by the French Haiti authorities. They instigated a slave rebellion which was pretty bloody. In the spirit of revolutionary France, you know liberty, equality, fraternity, the Haiti dictator gave the German colony Haiti citizenship in 1804. The Germans married the local girls but their mulato descendants formed an elite mulato population. By 1910, German descended mulatos owned 80 percent of Haiti’s international trade. The heavy racism of whites began in the late 1800s. Previous, a black cultivated person was a Creole that white aristocratic popluations were by no means ashamed to marry into. But not Royalty. The Dumas French family originated from the Haiti Creoles. Pushkin was descended from an Ethiopian slave in Russia. For more information read, wikipedia: Germans in Haiti.

    • Replies: @ia
    , @Palerider1861
  29. Andy says:
    @JLK

    Hitler was indeed a Slavophobe. I think this originated in being a working class ethnic German in the multinational Austro-Hungarian empire and as such he looked down on non German minorities in Austria-Hungary (mainly Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Poles, Ukrainians)

    • Replies: @Andy
    , @jilles dykstra
  30. Andy says:
    @Andy

    He of course hated the Jews. Strangely enough, he didn’t seem to hate the Hungarians much, and rather took them as allies in WW2. He seemed to have prefered the Uralic Hungarians over the fellow Indo-European Slavs.

    • Replies: @llloyd
  31. @Parisian Guy

    Jew Lies And Glorification Of USSR Persists

    Parisian Jew: u seem to miss the pt. I’m not a fan of the American socialists, traitors to their race, and New-Dealers who allied w. Jews, commies, and did the bidding of Jew murderers against humanity to setting-up world Agenda-21 genocide and dictatorship.

    What u don’t want to face is simple, obvious fact it was GERMAN heroes who had the Russkies all but crushed–get it?–not Americans, but Germans, buddy, led by heroic unc’ Adolf and magnificent NSDAP who re-emphasized what Jews are really all about–and which Jews desperately continue to lying about to this day as we see u doing for them.

    Were it not for American supply of lend-lease, first the Brits, then the soviets would have been miserably kaput. It was ONLY American supply and aid that “ally” mass-murderers of UK and USSR survived in the first place. Without Jew S A the war would have been OVER in 1941, pal, ho ho ho ho.

    It never, ever, ever was the plan for Jew S A to supply too much of actual military force in the Jew-satanist effort to make genocidal United Nations (UN) world gov.–it was the economic and industrial back-up and supply which was absolutely CRUCIAL for that military force–not terribly different fm the strategy of WWI twenty yrs before. T-34 tanks were useless without soldiers kept alive by food fm the Jew S A.

    U say, “…truth was known by everybody in Europe…,” but u just babble the typical Jew lies, and u give no references. U don’t even grasp the basic strategy which was world gov. dictatorship of UN above all, the model being USSR, Jew S A merely providing finance, manufacture and supply, and then the police force after war was over to help enforce things.

  32. @Digital Samizdat

    What Are Real Circumstances Of Freedom?–Avoiding Omnipotent Gov., Heeding Reason, Honesty, Rule-Of-Law

    Digital: u’re the one making “assumptions” and question-begging, buddy, don’t doubt. U obviously never hrd of rule-of-law and sanctity-of-contract by which the middle-class has ALWAYS lived and thrived fm ancient times through Renaissance Italy, and then pre-1860s USA whence local and state gov. prevailed against the gross centralization and “globalist” statism which now seeks to consolidate for purpose of Agenda-21 and -2030 genocide.

    And real patriots are ALWAYS “libertarian,” including the German heroes of NSDAP, but who observed socialist “internationalist” and globalist circumstances then, not un-like today, and who determined upon perfectly justified martial-law resort for gov. preached by unc’ Adolf, considering Germany was attacked and blind-sided by the Entente conspirators, traduced and slandered for responsibility of WWI by utterly corrupt Versailles treaty–so much forgotten in this day as I earlier noted.

    Simplest history demonstrates most excellent security of world economy of the gold standard, including even after 1860s prior to world-gov. genocidal era beginning in 1914–triumph then of moralism-collectivism of Rousseau, Kant, Hegel, and Marx.

    People KNOW they’re in trouble when gross criminals, Jews, and satanists take-over, featuring literal legalized counterfeiting of central-banking, these criminals and satanic psychopaths preaching the very same sort of statist dictatorship and excuses as u do, though u don’t have the wit to realize it.

    For the libertarian ideal is to AVOIDING the very “macro-economy,” as u put it, which can only be effected by omnipotent gov., as hist. has demonstrated. And the “fairy” u pretend to knowing all about isn’t free-market, but rather the benevolent statist dictatorship u defend and extol, like the pathetic, patronizing fool u really are, eh?–u only kid urself, buddy–try to getting a clue.

  33. Christo says:
    @Parisian Guy

    No, I use rounded figures from what I recall. The USSR built about 50,000 T-34’s in WWII. They could do this because the USA sent them over 500,000 trucks. The USSR was able to build 50,000 T-34’s becuase they did not have to build alot of the trucks they used . A tank aint worth anything without support ammo fuel, which all is delivered by truck. Now for your theory to hold any water , we could say simply the USSR could have built half the number of tanks 25,000 T-34 ‘s to build 250,000 of those trucks themselves instead . Stiil alot of tanks . The only problem is the USSR lost 45000 of those 50000 T-34’s , so they never would have made it with half the T-34’s along with half the truck’s of which most truck were used to support other forces beside tanks.

    Then you aslos have to add the USSR recieved 20000 tanks (afv’s) and 20000 aircraft from the USA UK as well. Do you thinjk the Soviet army could have fought barefoot? Becuase the USA send them over 5 million pairs of boots IIRC. Lend lease overall amounted at least half of all Soviet equipment and supplies

    No the USSR would simply have lost WWII without lend -lease equipment supplies, handy figures

    https://ww2-weapons.com/lend-lease-tanks-and-aircrafts/

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
    , @Epigon
  34. @apollonian

    U say, “…truth was known by everybody in Europe…,” but u just babble the typical Jew lies, and u give no references.
    Quite recently, statistics had been published about the question “Who defeated the nazi?” It was a compilation of poll results in several years and several countries. It showed without any doubt that the majority, which was at first answering USSR, became gradually answering USA. And, as I said, it was noticeable, but not unexpected, that the opinion in each country was chauvinistically biased.

    I have not recorded that paper, and I cannot give you the reference. My best guess is I saw it in Russia Insider, maybe a month ago. May be I’m not the only one here to have seen it.

    Anyway, you are a kind of proof, by yourself, that the basic facts have been replaced in the memories.

    BTW, I would like to know where is, according to you, the limit to jewish power. I got the feeling that you see no limit.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  35. Darius says:

    What is ****s ? What word is it? Is it fucks? Sucks? What is it? Why are you scared of words. What will it do? Adults are more scared than kids of the “impact” of words in them. You all forget where you are coming from you hypocritical morons.

    • Agree: Durruti
  36. llloyd says: • Website
    @Andy

    Did he? He had a national security problem with them because their world leadership had called for his overthrow, and a cultural problem because they were not nativist. He apparently admitted to his staff he was Jewish descent himself. As I read somewhere, so were about a quarter of the German populaton including many of his generals, his favourite little girl and his chaffeur.

  37. @Mw

    Bullshit! Soral’s followers are mainly white and if the far right !
    I’m French. I very often read the Soral website. You don’t know what you are speaking about.
    I can tell you that, in the course of an exchange in the comments section, it happens that the comment writer incidently explain that he’s muslim or that his ancestors came from North Africa. My guess is they represent at least 20% of people who write comments.
    Furthermore the name of Soral movment is Egalité et Reconciliation. The later word is about peace between ethnic French and those descending from immigration.
    Moreover, a few year ago, Soral disputed European Election under the banner of “Party Anti-Zionist”. The three main candidates were Soral himself, Dieudonné whom father is from Kameroon, and Yahia Gouasmi who is from Iran.
    Soral is socially conservative, and economically socialist. Saying he’s far right is not true. That’s the bullshit zionist propaganda which says Soral is far right.

  38. @Reg Cæsar

    Catholics were also less-than-welcome at those institutions, and they responded by building a huge network of their own.

    Which may explain why the Supreme Court is shared between Jews and Catholics, and why the furor of, let’s say, Senator Feinstein, against Kavannaugh.

  39. @Fidelios Automata

    I know that controversy about who wanted war. There is the same about the start of WW2. I have no opinion. For instance, i’ve also read that US/UK were very actively trying to convince Stalin that Hitler was secretly wanting to attack USSR as soon as he could. So Stalin planned for a preemptive attack. My guess is we will never be able to know the truth with certainty.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  40. I gave Alain Soral a fair chance. He is amazingly articulate and capable of bringing into his talks a wide variety of references. He is also quite able to make startling observations. But you don’t have to listen to him long before you notice that he thinks he is the greatest thinker the world has ever seen and he is always willing to talk on and on and on to demonstrate it. He always seems to have a chip on his shoulder, and his tendency to insult those he disagrees with is irresistible for him. I went so far once as to buy his book “Comprendre l’empire,” in which he explains everything about the world and politics. A sophomoric, trivial, useless book.

  41. “However, Venezuela of course is economically collapsing.”
    Florida Maquis thinks it is Columbia that will collapse and that Venezuela is on the road to recovery:

    And Maduro is giving pay rises..
    https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14171

  42. Franz says:
    @Parisian Guy

    The lend-lease, the trucks and jeeps, and blahblah…. Their effect is a myth. That’s a meme which has been propagated as soon as the USSR went down around 1990 (thus, there was no more powerful voice to contradict the lies).

    Part true, but you’re overshooting just a bit.

    In 1962, East minus West = zero by Werner Keller was published by Putnam in the USA. There were previous non-US editions.

    As I heard it, the big complaint in 1962 (one of) was Foreign Aid. Keller’s book gave JFK’s opponents another brick to lob at him, because Keller detailed the extent of that particular aid that American industrial workers and military had been quiet about due to secrecy laws.

    Since Keller’s book had a non-USA roots, it was okay. Might seem idiotic to blame JFK for FDR’s sins, but politics in this asylum works that way.

    Because Keller never claimed Lend Lease “won” the war, his volume is rarely cited which is too bad because he got the details fresh, less than 20 years after the war from sources close to the factory gate and battleground.

    I have not heard of any major errors in the book. Copies are still floating around, but it’s over 350 pages and not light reading.

    If anyone cares to critique Keller, I have no quarrel. But so far as I know his book was the first “reveal” that considered Lend Lease to be any more than a case of a few shiploads of ammunition and tinned food. Much earlier than the 90s.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  43. @Parisian Guy

    Jews Leading Subjectivists, Satanists, Controlling Establishment Christianity

    Parisian Jew; regarding lend-lease, the facts speak–it doesn’t matter what “polls” say, which argument of urs is mere version of fallacy of argument-fm-authority. I’m “proof,” u say?–I stick to the obvious facts, and draw the clear, indicated conclusion soviets were beaten till resuscitated, rejuvenated, and actually primed by American aid and supply, especially of simple, basic food, and then the transportation.

    Stalin and Russkies themselves URGENTLY asked for tanks and planes when Harry Hopkins first talked to them, so deficient they’d become, such losses they’d suffered. By end 1941 Russkies had already gotten 200,000 tons of American-produced supplies through the Brits (before Jew S A even officially got into the war)–Jewwy Wikipedia says they got 360,000 tons.

    Jew “power”?–all u have to do is look at Israel, the “tail” wagging American (and everyone else) “dog.” Jews obviously control finances and the world fiat-money and central-banking systems. But then HOW do Jew exercise that control? Note psychologically Jews control an extremely powerful segment of “Christian” population in Jew S A, called “Judeo-Christians” (JCs–see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo), or “Christian-Zionists,” about half of all evangelicals, perhaps numbering up to 40 million here who strongly support Israeli terror-state. Jews heavily influence and intimidate ALL establishment Christian churches throughout the world beginning w. “vatican” satanists and child-molesters.

    But most of all, Jews are Talmudists (see Talmudical.blogspot.com), by definition, hence satanists, Jews being extreme subjectivists (“midrash”), which subjectivism holds reality is mere creation of mentality/consciousness, making themselves God, the creator–satanists. Further Jews are most COLLECTIVIST subjectivists, leading group-think practitioners, Jews most dedicated, most organized, most committed, most cohesive such subjectivists and group-think artists. Thus Jews control, lead, and manipulate practically all the other subjectivistic and satanists among the goyim who vastly out-number Jews–this satanism is crux of their psychologic power. And note satanism is also secular philosophy–extreme subjectivism–parallel to “religious” Talmudism–it doesn’t matter if a Jew says he’s “atheist.” Thus Jews are most organized CRIMINALS and psychopaths, as we see in Israeli terror-state. Q.E.D.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  44. @Parisian Guy

    It’s probably true that the lend-lease act played only a minor role in the Soviet Union’s victory. Many people don’t realize this, but the principal beneficiary of the lend-lease act was not the USSR, but rather the UK. In fact, Britain, whose population then was then about one-quarter of what the Soviet Union’s was, received more than three times as much aid as the Soviets did. Per capita, that means they got twelve times more aid than the USSR.

    But some people are destined to go on believing that surplus US jeeps turned the tide on the Eastern Front. So be it …

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#Scale

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
    , @EugeneGur
  45. @llloyd

    Hitler admitted that he was Jewish? Really? I’m sorry, but I seem to be having trouble finding your source citation here!

  46. @llloyd

    Llloyd, u disappoint me once again, my boy: unc’ Adolf was NOT descended fm any Jew, get a clue. We see u’re very poor historian, gullible and un-informed, merely retailing Jew lies: get the real story; see https://carolynyeager.net/fake-legends-adolf-hitler%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cjewish-grandfather%E2%80%9D .

    The lies about unc’ Adolf’s parentage are mere concoction of Jews, beginning w. a couple of them, named Langer, a common Jew name, and his brother, a psychologist, the first one having been appointed head of the Research and Analysis Section of the OSS, no less. The lies center upon the un-founded assertion that Hitler’s grandmother was a domestic servant who worked for Jews. On contrary, it’s known Maria Schickelgruber didn’t need such employment as she was not poor, her parents having retired rather well-off, she inheriting significant funds:

    “2. Maria Anna Schicklgruber was not a poor housemaid who worked for wealthy Jewish families. The daughter of Johann Schicklgruber, a prosperous farmer in possession of a well-appointed farm in the village of Strones, and Theresia Pfseisinger, she was born in 1795 and is described by Maser as a thrifty, reserved and exceptionally shrewd peasant woman. She gives every appearance of having been strong-minded, a trait that was passed down to her son Alois and her grandson, Adolf.

    “3. Maria Anna Schicklgruber’s brother, Jakob, purchased the family farm from his father for 3000 gulden when the father was only 53 years old. Maria’s mother, Theresia, had just inherited 210 gulden from her father’s total estate of 1054 gulden, so the parents felt prosperous enough to retire. To put the value of 3000 gulden in perspective: a cow at that time could be purchased for 10 to 12 gulden; a brood sow cost 4 gulden; a bed w/bedding was 2 gulden; an inn with stabling could be had for 450 to 500 gulden. As you can see, 3000 gulden was a substantial amount.

    “4. Maria Anna, at the age of 26, inherited 74.25 gulden at the death of her mother in 1821. She kept this sum in the Orphans’ Fund until 1838, earning 5% interest. By then, it had increased to 165 gulden, over double the original amount. Her son was not born until June 1837 when she was 42 yrs. old.”

    And there were no Jews in the vicinity:

    “A) From the end of the 15th Century until a decade after Maria Anna died, no Jews lived in Graz. They had been expelled by Emperor Maximilian I in 1496 from the province of Styria, which included Graz. In 1781, under Joseph II, they were allowed to re-enter, but only for a few weeks at a time, during Lent and at the Feast of St. Giles to the annual Fairs, after paying a fixed sum. Two years later, these rights were again curtailed, and it remained enforced until 1860 that no Jews whatsoever could even enter the province.”

    “12. The Rothschild in Vienna story: This is debunked for the same reasons. Maria Anna Schicklgruber did not visit or live in Vienna, and there is no record of who these Rothschilds were, their address or other necessary information.”

  47. @Christo

    Not sure what the reliability of your source is. For instance, it pretend that USSR used lot of US made planes, and went upto copy without permission the design of the Boeing B-29. But the B29 was not operational before the summer of 1944…
    One cannot say this american source is unbiased.

    My point is: all this story did not went public before the demise of USSR. If it was true, it would have not wait for so long. It looks like that story was not to sustainable before the USSR voice went mute.
    There are other cases where USSR story has been rewritten after its death.

    • Replies: @apollonian
    , @Johnny Rico
  48. @Franz

    Thanks for these cautiously weighted informations.

  49. @apollonian

    Stalin and Russkies themselves URGENTLY asked for tanks and planes

    What they actually asked for was what had been promised: intervene in Europe far before 1944.

  50. JLK says:
    @llloyd

    He apparently admitted to his staff he was Jewish descent himself.

    Journalists determined Hitler’s Y-DNA (paternal line) to be haplogroup E-M35 (“E1b1b1”) by testing some of his male relatives back around 2010. It led to a few typically deprecatory articles around that time that he might be of Jewish or African origin. E-M35 was also Albert Einstein’s haplogroup. However, there are subgroups under E-M35 that can be detected by a slightly more comprehensive deep clade test.

    I find it hard to believe that the journalists didn’t spring for the extra hundred dollars or so needed for a deep clade test. The results have probably been kept out of the news for some reason. There may be good humanitarian reasons, such as to shield innocent secret descendants. But complete results could settle the longstanding question of his illegitimate father’s paternity. The most common rumor is that Alois Hitler’s mother worked in the Jewish Frankenberger household of Graz and was impregnated by the 19 year old son Leopold Frankenberger. However, there is a declassified US Government report on the CIA website that states that Schuschnigg’s pre-Anschluss Austrian government researched Hitler’s genealogy and determined that she actually worked for the Vienna Rothschilds. It notes that Hitler’s sister worked for the Jewish Mensa society in Vienna and that Hitler’s ability level was more consistent with a Rothschild than with his putative Austrian peasant background.

    Of course Schuschnigg’s government was looking for dirt on Hitler, and connecting him with the Rothschilds would be even juicier than assigning him incidental Jewish ancestry. The Rothschild paternal line is reported on the Internet to be an entirely different haplogroup. However, there may be good security reasons to mislead the public on that point. Interesting, nonetheless.

    As I read somewhere, so were about a quarter of the German populaton including many of his generals, his favourite little girl and his chaffeur.

    25% is probably little high, but the rate of intermarriage is Germany was higher than it had ever been anywhere else in diaspora history, and there were a lot of children. The liberal reform Judaism movement originated in Germany. The evidence suggests that Jews were more comfortable among the Germans in many ways than they had ever been in Eastern Europe, at least until the Balfour Declaration and the associated recrimination in the aftermath of WWI.

    The Daily Mirror ran a unusually flattering article on Hitler and his “favorite little girl” (who was only 1/4th Jewish) a few months ago. She used to call him “Uncle Hitler.”

    His chauffeur’s name was Emil Maurice, who asked permission to date Hitler’s niece, Geli Raubal. Hitler refused and she shot herself. Hitler thought Maurice was a loyal Nazi and stood by him, even when his partial Jewish ancestry was revealed.

  51. @Digital Samizdat

    the principal beneficiary of the lend-lease act was not the USSR, but rather the UK

    Thanks for getting the point with comparative datas.
    That’s so true that lend-lease for UK was regular teaching at schools in France, but Lend-lease for USSR was never mentionned.
    France was allways neutral or pro-US, depending the time or the matter. Thus France had no motive to teach an History which would hide the USSR lend-lease, if it had been material.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  52. phil says:

    Guilliaume,

    You are a great guy to read, but your economic model is a little defective. You make it sound like Venezuela would have been OK, but that pesky Amerindian admixture dragged its average IQ down to 85; so socialism is claimed to be viable if we have the “right” people.

    China has a much higher average IQ, perhaps higher than the US, but as of 1978, its average living standards were comparable to Kenya, Nigeria, and Mozambique. East Germany was well below the level of West Germany. North Korea is way below South Korea.

    On a scale of 0 to 10, where 10 is pure capitalism (private ownership) and 0 is complete government control, a country is in trouble economically, regardless of IQ, if it falls below 5. A Nazi government was able to bring about an impressive cyclical recovery during the 1930s, but its longer-term prospects would have depended on whether it allowed market forces to operate to a reasonable degree.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  53. @Parisian Guy

    “Parisian” Reveals Himself

    Parisian Jew says, above, in reply to “Christo,” “Not sure what the reliability of your source is.” Then he adds, “One cannot say this american source is unbiased.” So evidently, the Jew fm Paris pretends the soviets are Gospel truth.

    Jew fm Paris replies to me as if he himself was actually present in Moscow and witnessed Hopkins talking to Stalin, “What they actually asked for was what had been promised: intervene in Europe far before 1944.” And the pt. is Parisian Jew always wants to pretend and insist the Jews and bolshies speak truth and most reliably–everyone else is suspect, but not Jews and bolshies.

    Golly gee, Parisian, but how is it we suspect u’re Jew? Ho ho hoh o ho.

    Then Parisian goes gushing to “digital,” “Thus France had no motive to teach an History which would hide the USSR lend-lease, if it had been material.” “Material”?–what’s that supposed to mean?–that it simply asserts and repeats the communist party line, as pushed by Parisian?

    So tell us Parisian: is there an OBJECTIVE standard?–and what would that be?–tell us.

    • Troll: Parisian Guy
    • Replies: @anon
  54. @Parisian Guy

    “Parisian” Knows All About Lend-Lease, But Sooooo Little About The Wars, Hmmmm

    “I know that controversy about who wanted war. There is the same about the start of WW2. I have no opinion. For instance, i’ve also read that US/UK were very actively trying to convince Stalin that Hitler was secretly wanting to attack USSR as soon as he could. So Stalin planned for a preemptive attack. My guess is we will never be able to know the truth with certainty.” -Parisian

    Well, we KNOW Hitler wanted peace w. UK (Brits) and French, and he was willing and expecting to fight USSR, bolshies, and Jews–along w. rest of West. Little did unc’ Adolf grasp how Jews and satanists had already captured West w. their central-bank instrument and were now conspiring and consolidating genocidal world dictatorship by means of League of Nations and next United Nations (UN).

    And we KNOW UK made an offensive treaty w. Poland against Germans, the Poles intending and conspiring to take Danzig, threatening the Germans w. war if they did not accede. Before that treaty Roosevelt planned and prepared for war against Germans right after his first re-election in 1937. See “The Forced War,” by David Hoggan.

    And remember how it all started in 1914, Russians conspiring w. Serbs against Austria-Hungary, Serbs assassinating heir-apparent ArchDuke, the Russians conspiring w. France and UK against Germany, then mobilizing against Austria, starting the war deliberately and according to conspiracy w. UK and France. See Docherty and MacGregor, “Hidden History….”

    And of course the utterly corrupt and mendacious Versailles Treaty blamed Germany for the war which was started by the Entente conspirators, taking much territory and re-distributing it, causing much consternation and revision which unc’ Adolf was successfully correcting–w. tacit approval of the world which became aware, by mid-20s, of the Entente conspirators of WWI. See works of Harry Elmer Barnes, and Prof. Sidney B. Fay.

    So we see UK and France were the real conspirators MOST responsible by far for out-break of the wars, using and duping the Poles in the second, and including Jew S A which additionally instigated the second war and guaranteed the bank-rolling, financing, and supplying of the criminal psychopaths behind League of Nations and UN, genocidal world dictatorship, UK, and France, and in due course, the mass-murdering Bolsheviks of USSR. Q.E.D.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  55. anon[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @apollonian

    anyone who disagrees with him he hits the Troll button, lol

    • Troll: Parisian Guy
    • Replies: @apollonian
  56. @anon

    “The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

    – Joseph Goebbels

    Link: http://therealistreport.com/quotes/

  57. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Parisian Guy

    Hitler was defeated by soviet armies. They had thousands of russian made T34, patriotic soldiers (more than 10 millions died, against around 0.1 million from US), and smart generals.

    The lend-lease, the trucks and jeeps, and blahblah…. Their effect is a myth.

    The Soviets were capable of stopping the Germans with their own resources.

    They may have been capable of reconquering some lost territory but it would have been a hard slog with no guarantees of success.

    The Lend-Lease equipment, especially the trucks, made it possible for the reconquest to be complete and for eastern Europe to be overrun, giving the Soviet Union a buffer zone against any future aggression from the west.

    The Soviet achievement was certainly impressive. They went from being lousy at mobile warfare to being very very good at it. But you can’t wage mobile warfare without lots and lots of trucks and there was no way they could have produced those trucks themselves. The American trucks allowed the Soviets to concentrate on producing tanks and aircraft.

    The Americans were certainly happy to let the Soviets do the hard fighting. Stalingrad, Kursk, Operation Bagration – these were the battles that won the war.

  58. Svigor says:

    Israel puts the lie to the parts of that I read before TL;DR kicked in.

    The very same, supposedly “cosmopolitan and bourgeois” Judenreich that supposedly doesn’t care about race, only class, runs Israel.

    The Israeli elite would certainly benefit financially from open borders, but Israel’s borders remain closed. Israeli ethnonationalism certainly hurts the bottom line, but reign it does.

  59. Svigor says:

    In this respect, they is quite like William Pierce’s legendary American Dissident Voices broadcasts in the 1990s and early 2000s.

    Pierce was a badass. He did a lot to legitimize WNism for me, way back in the day. More psychologically than intellectually. Hearing an obviously very intelligent and charismatic man hold forth on the Judenreich broke through barriers for me.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  60. Wally says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    said:
    “There has to be some explanation for why Russian deserters who volunteered for German forces were hardly used.”

    Nonsense, they were used and those that were captured were quickly executed by the Communists or sent to the gulag archipelago.

  61. @Svigor

    Pierce Only Suffered FM Prejudice Against Christianity, Too Great Emphasis On Collectivism

    Indeed, Pierce was bull-dog, like dear unc’ Adolf, who kept his eye firmly fixed upon target Jews and never compromised, never pretending there are “good” Jews, like there are “good” psychopaths, or good child-molesters.

    BUT Pierce had similar draw-backs and weaknesses as Hitler, in his anti-Christianity, which dear Christianity, at least in the very early days of the West, was just as un-compromising and cogent against Jews, even more effective and victorious, for hundreds of yrs, which further, most effectively coupled Jews w. satanism–which is demonstrable fact, satanism being extreme subjectivism, the idea reality is created by mentality/consciousness, making the subject to be God the creator–satanism which doubles as secular philosophy (in form of subjectivism) parallel w. religious sentiment/theology. Fact Jews say they’re “atheist” doesn’t change essence of their satanic nature.

    Pierce fell into this trap w. his German transcendental moralism as of Kant, including that fatal collectivism which is foreign to both West and Christianity. Thus Pierce failed to gain sympathy of numerous Christians, too easily forsaking those good people, who KNOW and sense something is wrong w. devilish, infernal Jew monsters, but can’t quite put proverbial finger on it for strict rationalist analysis.

    Pierce too easily associated and identified Christianity w. Pharisaism/Talmudism when they are absolute, polar opposites, featuring TRUTH (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) vs. Jew lies (JOHN 8:44), the decisive pt. being that truth requires an OBJECTIVE reality as criterion against Jew lies and subjectivism. Pierce presumed Christianity was necessarily MYSTIC, like Judaism, which was fatal mistake and assessment, and which alienated Pierce fm too many fellow gentiles, esp. Christians, who would otherwise have hailed him for his many great observations and insights.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  62. Biff says:

    However, Venezuela of course is economically collapsing. As a Mestiza nation with an IQ of 85, Venezuela’s “Bolivarian Revolution” has led to a regime of corruption and mismanagement on a massive scale.

    Venezuela differs from its neighbors in only two categories:
    It has oil, and it is under constant attack.

  63. Nils says:

    Venezuela is under economic attack by the US. This much is very clear and to blame on an average IQ of 85 is, to put it lightly, retarded.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  64. Leon says:

    This article is pathetic.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  65. neutral says:

    Regarding Hitler and the Slavs there were two big issues, the first one was the Mongol rule for centuries (which means lots of race mixing happened), the second was the fact that (((Bolsheviks))) ruled over these people.

  66. A, in my opinion, confused story, with confused reactions.
    Who wants to understand the present world must begin by understanding western history since, say 1800, the Polish division that concentrated nearly all the jews in the world in tsarist Russia.
    The, again in my opinion, real history differs so much from mainstream history that everything is turned upside down.
    The main lies in mainstream is history are about the evil Germans, they caused two world wars, and operated gas chambers.
    Seeing Germans, Japanese and Muslims as victims, in my opinion the reality, impossible.

    How many understand that this upside down mainstream history brought us also the disasters EU and euro, I wonder.
    Why Merkel wants mass immigration, I cannot read minds.
    But two reasons are mentioned, both may be true simultaneously: bring in young blood to compensate for that in Europe average age is increasing, and creating ‘ein neuer Mensch’, ‘a new human’, to be interpreted as a morally better human.

    That jewry wants multi cultural societies is clear, and maybe they’re right from their point of view.
    There were never pogroms in the USA, there were no pogroms in the last decades of the Austrian-Hungarian empire.

    As I already stated here, until now I did not pay much attention to Charlotteville, just yesterday I read two websites, cars driving into pedestrians we are used to.
    Just one casualty, hardly worth mentioning.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
    https://www.adl.org/blog/white-supremacists-adopt-new-slogan-you-will-not-replace-us

    My resulting thought: just a geographical division of the USA, between coloured and white, jews in the coloured area, can solve the present problems.
    However, two such examples were in recent history, Pakistan and India splitting up, and the around 1921 population transfer between Turkey and Greece, ‘Greece’ in fact most of the area west of the Bosporus.
    Both splits were more than horrible at the time.
    To this day tensions exist between Greece and Turkey, and between India and Pakistan.
    So one may wonder if the cure is, was, not more harmful than the illness.

    If objective MSM and sensible politicians could solve the problem, I’m not sure.
    But it seems worth trying to me.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  67. @dfordoom

    Richard Overy, ‘Why the allies won’, New York, London, 1995
    USA technical military support of Russia already began in 1933:
    Franz Kurowski, ‘Balkenkreuz und Roter Stern, Der Luftkrieg über Russland 1941 – 1944’, 1984, Friedberg

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  68. @apollonian

    An unknown book describing how GB steered towards war in the thirties is
    Lawrence R. Pratt, ‘East of Malta, West of Suez’, London, 1975
    GB guarantees began at the north side of the Med

  69. @Parisian Guy

    Without USA economic support GB could not have fought WWI, nor WWII.
    But even with USA economic support the USA had to intervene militarily.
    It is hardly ever mentioned anywhere, but by November 1917 Germany would have won the war in Europe:
    Donald McCormick, ‘The mask of Merlin, A Critical Study of David Lloyd George’, London, 1963

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  70. @Andy

    ” ´Als die Deutschen weg waren, Was nach der Vertreibung geschah: Ostpreussen, Schlesien, Sudetenland’, 2005, 2007, Reinbek, Adrian von Arburg, Wlodzimierz Borodziej, Jurij Kostjaschow, Ulla Lachauer, Hand-Dieter Rutsch, Beate Schlanstein, Christian Schulz ”

    Trans: After the Geermans had left, what happened after the expulsion.
    A quite interesting book about German superiority.
    The expulsion of the Germans led to collapse of industries.

  71. @Guillaume Durocher

    ” ambition of being an autarkic superpower. ”
    Hitler, in my opinion, just wanted to recreate the Germany that existed before WWI.

    • Replies: @Guillaume Durocher
  72. @apollonian

    ” EVERYONE knew how thoroughly CORRUPT was Versailles treaty ”
    How ‘corrupt’ ?
    Versailles was meant to cripple Germany forever, and divide the two other empires between the victors.
    Just naked power politics.

  73. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Correct.
    What is hardly anywhere ever mentioned is that Germany in WWII lacked the metals, alloys, to fabricate high performance piston airplane engines.
    Combined with that the Germans never understood the magnetron, GB airplane radar was far more sophisticated than German, German night fighters carried elaborate radar antennae, this resulted in night fighters hardly able to fly faster than allied bombers.

    Night fighters nearly stalled at the moment of firing, had to bring the nose up a little, as they flew underneath the target.
    Later “schräge Musik’ was installed, guns firing upwards, maybe 20°.
    Never understood the expression, literally ‘music with, or under, an angle’.

    • Replies: @Wally
  74. @Parisian Guy

    “Not sure what the reliability of your source is.”

    Of course you don’t. Go away until you know some history.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  75. Miggle says:

    I would agree with Soral that Western thought has been declining independently of IQ. Only in a sick world are Tom Friedman and Paul Krugman considered “thought-leaders,” to not speak of their French equivalents, such as the embarrassing Bernard-Henri Lévy, whom Soral quotes from a recent radio interview with the equally-Jewish Anne Sinclair (Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s former wife . . . it’s a small ethno-nepotistic world): “The Torah is the treasure of the Jews and the Jews are the treasure of the nations.”

    There’s a small problem with the claim of the Jewish Anne Sinclair, if it was her who said that, but the same goes for Bernard-Henri, if he said it.

    Despite her name she proves her “Jewishness” (so-called) with this deceptiveness. But there is a total difference between the modern so-called Jews and the real Jews who wrote the Law, which she thinks treasure, and also the Prophets which she doesn’t think treasure, and also the New Testament, which, just guessing, she might also think not the treasure of the Jews. It is. It was written by real Jews. Semites even, as the modern so-called Jews are not.

    Only in a sick world would the “equally-Jewish”, meaning not at all Jewish, mere Talmudist fakes, claim ownership of the Pentateuch. Let them claim ownership of the Talmud, though even that is shaky. They have no claim whatsoever to the Torah.

    I could go on, expand on two relevant and biting points made by Israel Shahak, but let’s stop.

    But, another of his points, she is required by her Talmud to pray every day expressing her hatred of the Christians. And Israel Shamir at this site has quoted Ariel Toaff on the Jewish killings of Christian children for blood sacrifice. This makes the Jews the treasure of the nations, right?

  76. Epigon says:
    @apollonian

    You fail at basic knowledge and common sense.

    Before any meaningful Lend-Lease shipments arrived, Axis invasion of USSR was stopped and the precious “sucker-punch” and veterans of 1939-1941 campaigns were expended.

    Do yourself a favour and start reading actual books on WW2 before sperging out in comments sections.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  77. Epigon says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    As for German regional bias against Slavs, Austria, for one example, in the 1800s treated the Serbs almost as poorly as the Ottomans did.

    Nah, this is completely untrue.

    Serbia was until 1903 coup pro-Austrian, and Serbs originally constituted vast majority of Habsburg Military frontier population. Likewise, Habsburgs were the original anti-Ottoman power for Serbs to rely on after Hungary fell at Mohacs.

    The catch is that Habsburgs were thorough Catholics, so pursued a policy of systematic Uniatization and Catholization since 16th century and Counter-reformation, aimed at Orthodox Serbs.

    For example, advancing in rank in Habsburg Army above lower officer required Uniatism or Catholicism, as did attending a military academy.
    So it is not a surprise that foreigners, outsiders such as the French during Illyrian provinces administration call the Grenzers “Croats” – according to the province they hail from – but a brief glimpse upon the uniforms, footwear and especially surnames and church records dispells the notion.
    For example, the 1878 Austrian invasion of Bosnia&Herzegovina was led by 3 Serb AH generals. In WW1, the Isonzo front was commanded by a Serb Field Marshal.

    • Replies: @Dovla
  78. @dfordoom

    [the soviets] there was no way they could have produced those trucks themselves.

    What is the base of this statement?
    Since they were able to manufacture 50000 T34 (weight: 25 tonnes), they could design and manufacture trucks. The US-made trucks were only 2-ton. Of course they would have had to divert some of their manufacturing power.

    Otherwise, thanks for your informed comment.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  79. Kula says:
    @anonymous

    I too have too many options for the asterisks: f..cks, fails, shags, screws….we multi-kulti here

  80. Epigon says:
    @Christo

    No, I use rounded figures from what I recall. The USSR built about 50,000 T-34′s in WWII. They could do this because the USA sent them over 500,000 trucks. The USSR was able to build 50,000 T-34′s becuase they did not have to build alot of the trucks they used .

    USSR ended the war with a vast surplus of tanks and trucks.
    The critical fights were from June 1941 to arguably January 1943, or alternatively, July 1943.
    Do yourself a favour and research how many Lend-Lease tanks and trucks made in USA were in USSR during that period.

    Also, a tank producing factory and a truck producing factory are completely different enterprises. Even the vaunted US automobile industry provided a miniscule tank production capacity in its converted plants – the majority was made in purpose-made tank arsenals.

    Now for your theory to hold any water , we could say simply the USSR could have built half the number of tanks 25,000 T-34 ‘s to build 250,000 of those trucks themselves instead . Stiil alot of tanks . The only problem is the USSR lost 45000 of those 50000 T-34′s , so they never would have made it with half the T-34′s along with half the truck’s of which most truck were used to support other forces beside tanks

    You pull the numbers out of your ass. You also fail at basic industrial management.

    There were so many T-34s post war that half the world received them and still the Soviets had enough for themselves left.
    Soviet AFV losses are one of the most ridiculous nonsense encountered: as expected, because Cold War Western history revolved around reading German propaganda claims and German unit claims – similar folly caused General Staff and Hitler to assume that RKKA had been defeated and no forces could prevent the capture of Moscow. The cost of buying into your own lies.

    Then you aslos have to add the USSR recieved 20000 tanks (afv’s) and 20000 aircraft from the USA UK as well. Do you thinjk the Soviet army could have fought barefoot? Becuase the USA send them over 5 million pairs of boots IIRC. Lend lease overall amounted at least half of all Soviet equipment and supplies

    No the USSR would simply have lost WWII without lend -lease equipment supplies, handy figures

    The Soviets liked M4A2 and P-39/63. The rest was pretty much useless, in AFV and plane department.

    Also, timing is everything – USSR ended the war with vast amounts of surplus military equipment. So Lend-Lease post-Zitadelle is actually of little importance, war outcome-wise.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  81. @Johnny Rico

    The actual fact is:

    I have shown that the reliability of your source is far from perfect.
    Then, you answer back with nothing but only aggressive words.
    This shows you lost your fight, did not you?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  82. @Epigon

    Think First Before Running Proverbial Mouth

    Epigon: u ought to take ur own advice, Jew. “Invasion was stopped”?–well, activity came to a halt during the winter as matter of course, in winter-time, in 1941, but then resumed in the southern theatre in 1942 until Stalingrad battle. Then offensive operations began again in Spring 1943 in the “Citadel” operation.

    And UK (Brits) relayed material to Murmansk even before Jew S A got into the war before Dec. 1941. By 1942, well before Stalingrad battle, soviets got lots and lots of essential lend-lease stuff, ESPECIALLY FOOD, which they desperately needed.

    So, u kinda’ look a little stupid and ignorant, don’t u, Jew?

    “Sucker-punch” or not, it was either do it or be sucker-punched, eh? And Victor Suvorov (Rezin), author of “Icebreaker,” confirms Stalin’s/bolshies’ plans to attack Germany, the airfields up at the front-lines, along w ammo-dumps, etc.

    As I noted, lend-lease was absolutely CRUCIAL to Brits and indeed the entire WWII effort, Jew S A providing financing and supply–Brits and soviets wouldn’t and couldn’t have survived without it. Lend-lease was fundamental STRATEGIC pillar of the entire WWII strategy fm the very beginning, even before the actual out-break of warfare in 1939. U need to think first, before running ur Jewwy trap, I’d say, though u don’t really seem to be too good at thinking, ignorant as u obviously are.

  83. bj says:
    @apollonian

    So what we see fm history is that Hitler did magnificently for leadership and revisionism of the utterly corrupt Versailles treaty, Germany traduced by the British-French-Russian conspiracy to start WWI–see Docherty and MacGregor’s “Hidden History,” the Entente conspiracy well known and exposed by the mid 1920s–EVERYONE knew how thoroughly CORRUPT was Versailles treaty–which conspiracy of lies is still carried on today by the Jew-centric, Jew-oriented history and edjumacation in the idiot factories called “public education” and popular culture.

    Not everyone knows Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War by Gerry Docherty and Jim MacGregor which is available on Amazon.

    The Corbett Report is doing a series on the origins of the WWI, which I highly recommend. James Corbett interviews Gerry Docherty as part of the series exposing the lies of history concealing the conspiracy to destroy Germany and create a world empire which we suffer today.

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1405-gerry-docherty-on-the-hidden-history-of-wwi/

    • Agree: apollonian
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  84. @bj

    Lies of history ?
    Trotzky in 1917 in the tsarist archive found the treaty between GB, France and the tsar to destroy and divide between them three empires, he published the treaty.
    In this respect history does not lie, and explains the German attack on France in 1914.
    What w’re talking about is the lies of historians.
    They meekly adhered to the truth of the victors.

    • Replies: @bj
  85. @apollonian

    ” And Victor Suvorov (Rezin), author of “Icebreaker,” confirms Stalin’s/bolshies’ plans to attack Germany, the airfields up at the front-lines, along w ammo-dumps, etc. ”
    As does
    Bogdan Musial, ‘Kampfplatz Deutschland, Stalins Kriegspläne gegen den Westen’, Berlin 2008
    Hitler’s attack was three weeks before Stalin’s planned attack.

  86. @apollonian

    ” Lend-lease was fundamental STRATEGIC pillar of the entire WWII strategy fm the very beginning, even before the actual out-break of warfare in 1939. “

    Indeed, when LendLease was debated in Congress and House in vain was asked that the author of the law would appear to answer questions.
    That author was Felix Frankfurter.
    His 1937 diary disappeared from the library where his diaries are, my conclusion is that he wrote the law already in that year.

    Very few people seem to know the price GB had to pay for LendLease, I know just one book where it is mentioned: abolition of the British empire by removing all protective import- and export duties:
    R.F. Harrod, ‘THE PROF, A personal memoir of Lord Cherwell’, London, 1959

    Alas, British hero Churchill must remain a hero, the book describing Churchill as the undertaker of the empire was never published in original english
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    Who wants to understand how WWII impoverished Britons I can recommend
    Neville Shute’s novel Trustee from the Toolroom.

    • Agree: apollonian
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  87. bj says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Yes…….also the history of lies and/or the historians of lies. No wonder history has such a poor reputation among objective minds. My Flemish family’s historical memory is at odds with the history of lies narrated in school books and university classes.

  88. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuation_in_the_Soviet_Union

    …….Evacuation in the Soviet Union was the mass migration of western Soviet citizens and its industries eastward as a result of Operation Barbarossa, the German military invasion of June 1941. Nearly sixteen million Soviet civilians and over 1,500 large factories were moved to areas in the middle or eastern part of the country by the end of 1941.[1]…….

    ……Soviet towns and cities inland or in the east received the bulk of the new refugees and high priority war factories, as locations such as the Siberian city of Novosibirsk, received more than 140,000 refugees and many factories due to its location away from the front lines……

    The GKO oversaw the relocation of more than 1500 plants of military importance to areas such as the Urals, Siberia, and Central Asia. These areas offered safety to its inhabitants due to its isolated locations that were not in reach of damaging Axis airstrikes, and they offered Soviet industries with a mass quantity of resources to field the factories and plants associated with the war effort. The Urals in central Russia fielded an impressive array of heavy iron and steel factories as well as agriculture and chemical plants. The Siberian industries relied on their coal mines and copper deposits in the Kuznetzk coal basin for continuing the support of the Soviet war machine.[13]…….

    But evidence shows that some evacuations, the transfer of machine tools and skilled workers to “shadow factories” in the east, began much earlier. The U.S. military attaché reported significant transfers of machines and men from the Moscow area to the east in late 1940 and early 1941. The rapid growth in production early in 1942 suggests that the evacuation started in 1940.[12]…….
    …….

  89. Durruti says:

    Durocher is an A**.

    By the numbers (also to help the commenters who cannot stick to the topic, or examine the product). The Product is this vicious attack on French philosopher, Alain Soral.

    By the numbers.

    1. Durocher writes an ‘analysis’ of Soral, without once mentioning Soral’s friend, France’s finest Humorist, Dieudonné.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dieudonne+english+subtitles&view=detail&mid=3FA033E738FAD5A9519C3FA033E738FAD5A9519C&FORM=VIRE

    Listen – all the way through.

    2. Durocher repeatedly refers to Jews, but never once mentions their genocidal (and Imperialist), Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinians.

    3. He never mentions the 2 branches of the Haganah (Terrorist Stormtroopers), ISIS, and Al Quaida.

    4. He Marxs this and Marxs that, in an effort to add some foundation to his attack on Soral. But, you do not have to be a Marxist, or an anti-Marxist, to understand the difference between Right and Wrong.

    5. Soral, has stood by Dieudonné, who has been fined, jailed, banned from dozens of countries (and by whom?).

    6. Both Soral and Dieudonné have supported, and are partly responsible for the upsurge in French Resistance to the Zionist New World Order, the Yellow Vests.

    7. Yes, Durocher does not mention the massive Rebellion of the Yellow Vests.

    8. He fails to mention the Rothschild – Minion, – Pathetic Traitor President of France. I will not utter his name here; but it rhymes with Bacon, and he married his Grandmother.

    9. This analysis of Soral is glaringly incomplete. At best it represents a bunch of notes written on the back of a napkin; at worst……………………

    Try this for an opening glance into Alain Soral – and what he believes.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=alain+soral+english+subtitles&qpvt=alain+soral+english+subtitles&view=detail&mid=B9F14DA8134EEA2AD172B9F14DA8134EEA2AD172&&FORM=VRDGAR

    And:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=alain+soral+english+subtitles&qpvt=alain+soral+english+subtitles&view=detail&mid=43F4EAB4B08BA428C56543F4EAB4B08BA428C565&&FORM=VRDGAR

    And:

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=alain+soral+english+subtitles&qpvt=alain+soral+english+subtitles&view=detail&mid=A1C4575864A99102AB77A1C4575864A99102AB77&&FORM=VRDGAR

    And there are more.

    I suppose I owe an apology for paying some attention to the article, and not digressing into Racial theories, or the fraud of so-called IQ.

    About Adolf Hitler:

    Hitler was a police agent for the German State; and he cleaned the Nazi Party of all those who did not follow the lead of the Zionist Oligarchs – during the Night of the Long Knives. His reward for murdering thousands, was the Chancellorship (where he was allowed to wear the Crown). Hitler’s actual behavior was quite similar to that of the post-Republic American figurehead Presidents (who murdered many times more people than Hitler, and have also moved troops to Russia’s border).

    God Bless!

    Have a Merry Christmas!

    Durruti

  90. Wally says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    said:
    “He demonstrates that when Germany went to war the country was deficient in almost all these capacities.”

    Further proof that war was pushed on Germany.
    Thanks.

  91. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Nonsense.
    It was volume that Germany was lacking. GB had the US to supply all they needed.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  92. @apollonian

    I think Durocher rather fails for his analysis/assessment of Soral, and it certainly wasn’t Marx who defeated dear unc’ Adolf and those heroic Germans.

    This is total misreading of Durocher and Soral, from which started an endless off-topic thread.

    What Soral said in “Marx encule Hitler” is: the marxian idea of class strugle finally reveals to be a quite better explanation of human conflicts and history than the hitlerian point of view which is based on race struggle.

    Therefore, the East front and WW2 topics, which were introduced by @appolonian as soon as the #3 comment, are irrelevant to the Durocher article. It is true that by this way a lot of informed and interesting comments have been made about WW2, but the initial matter of discussion has been lost.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Disagree: apollonian
  93. Wally says:
    @Parisian Guy

    The US supplied in vast quantity much more than trucks & jeeps:

    Food, medical supplies, machinery of all types, raw materials, iron ore, coal, clothing, shoes / boots, blankets, you name it, the US sent it.

    The USSR would have folded without such massive assistance. It hurts to admit it, eh comrade?

    The T34 was effective in it’s cheapness and ease of manufacture, the communists lost countless numbers, but could replace them relatively quickly. It was totally over matched by the German Panther Mark IV, but like many things, Germany could not produce the numbers necessary due to lack of resources.

    The Soviet soldier was indeed “patriotic”.
    Having Communist party commissars attached to each unit where they shot anyone not deemed “patriotic” enough assured that “patriotism”.
    Widely distributed vodka certainly helped that “patriotism” when Soviet troops were sent into massive & idiotic frontal assaults with huge losses. After all, the communist had an endless supply of “patriotic” soldiers.

  94. @Guillaume Durocher

    Do many families visit the site? If you write for the revolutionaries than don’t hesitate to spell out what it is that you are conveying lest someone gets the wrong idea and shoots the messenger!

  95. @jilles dykstra

    Stupidity! Stalin wanted Latvia and Lithuania back. he did send units of army there.
    (Hitler speech before attacking Russia, (See Hitler speech on Wally’s website)

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  96. Dovla says:
    @Epigon

    Nah, this is completely untrue.

    Serbia was until 1903 coup pro-Austrian, and Serbs originally constituted vast majority of Habsburg Military frontier population. Likewise, Habsburgs were the original anti-Ottoman power for Serbs to rely on after Hungary fell at Mohacs.

    Serbia was never pro-Austrian, some rulers were, but people were always pro-Russian.

    The catch is that Habsburgs were thorough Catholics, so pursued a policy of systematic Uniatization and Catholization since 16th century and Counter-reformation, aimed at Orthodox Serbs.

    So yeah, they were not bad, they were just forcing religion change which is the core part of the identity, especially around here. Got it. And they didn’t really pursue it since counter-reformation, they pursued it after Ottoman collapse rendered Military frontier useless, and after they made compromise with Hungarians (thus removing the need to have Serbs to keep Hungarians in check).

    For example, the 1878 Austrian invasion of Bosnia&Herzegovina was led by 3 Serb AH generals. In WW1, the Isonzo front was commanded by a Serb Field Marshal.

    One does have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with us in general. Until recently US occupying force in Kosovo was led by a general of Serbian decent, his last name that of the great Serb patriot and poet Jovan Ducic. The West does like to rub salt in the wounds.

  97. @Parisian Guy

    You quite often suffer from the illusion that you have explained or shown anything

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  98. Disagree with Soral on the class question. That is a very white perspective. For example; most uber-rich jews in the world today are highly ethnocentric. The fact that they also have class interests doesn’t mean that they don’t exhibit high degree of ethnic bias towards their own in-group. Rich White people selling out can be explained by two things:

    1. Overall low ethnocentrism among Whites in the contemporary era (we can get into the reasons for this on a seperate occassion, but Alt Hype/Ryan Faulk has convincingly shown that this is likely a matter of nurture and not nature, by looking at polls from the WWII era of US soldiers and their racial attitudes. The vast majority of them would be considered ‘far-right’ by today’s standards).

    2. Most of the people he mentioned came of age when France was much whiter, so there wasn’t such an obvious need to fight on. You could still sell yourself on the delusion of “reform from within”. That is much harder today.

    Overall, I think he is looking at a very white pathological condition and making the classic mistake of universalising it, which speaks badly about his intellectual capabilities.

    For highly ethnocentric non-Whites, not an either/or thing. For groups with high ethnocentrism, its elite still have a class bias but this bias manifests itself primarily when they are in relatively homogenous spaces. In heterogenous spaces, their ethnic bias kicks in and supercedes it. Rich Jews would never sell out their own kin en masse the way white rich people do on a regular basis.

    As for the “good jews/bad jews” fallacy. Netanyahu has a very good understanding of what “liberal” diaspora organisations are up to. They often travel to Israel to meet and consult with the Israeli government. He is simply playing all sides. To truly believe he could be on our side is to declare yourself as demented.

    It’s the same tactic of AIPAC; no matter who wins in the US elections, support for Israel should not be on the table. Israel and the Jewish diaspora wants to cover all bases, from the liberal and to the populist-right. Notice that virtually all ‘populist right-wing’ parties in Europe are talking about muslim immigration and delusional conspiracies about a “sharia takeover”, but nobody is willing to touch the much stronger jewish lobby. That’s because real power resides there. People who think Netanyahu can be pro-White are deluded. Hungary has already been attacked by World Jewish Congress for being insufficiently compliany to Jewish oligarchical interests and I didn’t see Netanyahu do much for Orban there. If he feels he can get a better outcome, he’ll ditch Orban in a second. People are amazingly naïve.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  99. @jilles dykstra

    There was planing and conspiracy naturally By English and French and Russia was engaged also.
    But conspiratorial actions were already executed by Stalin. Latvia Lithuania and Estonia were officially German territory. Stalin’s moves to put troops there were open aggregation against Germany,

  100. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#Scale
    The datas does not support your claim about the volume of sent stuff. See also the computation in excellent comment #45 by Digital Samizdat.

    2)As you said, Germans lacked ressources. Therefore it was better to concentrate them on high quality stuff, such as Panther. So what is your claim? You are only demonstrating that USSR did not lacked ressources so much (comparing to Germany). So you are destroying your own point about the absolute need of lendlease.

    3) Commisars were more because of Stalin being afraid of its officers loyalty. They could have not by themselves do much if the majority of soldiers did not wanted to fight. And anyway, in every army at war there is some pityless constraint process for recalcitrant soldiers. So what?

    4) Brains that have been brainwashed by american propaganda, unable to think otherwise, are the laughing stock of the whole planet Earth. So you can give me epithets such as “comrade”. It only adds up to my growing collection of baseless epithet I receive.
    Also, it adds to the many cues that America is mentally sick. Every time I expressed a point of view differing the ones that are the needed beliefs of some virtue signaling warrior for Great America’s Myth, or for Freedom against Globalism/Capitalism/Communism/Whatever, I got personnal attacks. Thus this intolerance is not the monopoly of the american Left SJW or the zionist supporters. This infantile narcissist sickness is in every part of american society.

  101. EugeneGur says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    the principal beneficiary of the lend-lease act was not the USSR, but rather the UK. In fact, Britain, whose population then was then about one-quarter of what the Soviet Union’s was, received more than three times as much aid as the Soviets did.

    This is, actually, perfectly correct, and Britain wasn’t fighting all that much at the time but the USSR was. Furthermore, as a part of land lease the USSR often received very much used or poor quality airplanes from the UK that they didn’t want themselves. To add to this that almost no aid came in 1941 when it would’ve been the most helpful and that the “allies” discontinues shipments via the Northern Sea in 1943 due to high losses – well, you get the picture.

    That said, a good proportion of trucks used in the front lines was indeed supplied by the West: the Western-made cars and truck were a common sight. As to the other types of weapons, they were relatively rare and account for a small proportion of all weapons used. A significant amount of food was also provided: the famous canned meat the soldiers called “the second front” comes to mind.

    The Russians have always thought that something’s better than nothing and have been grateful for whatever assistance the West provided. In contrast, the West proved petty-minded and resentful coming eventually to the denial of any role the USSR played in the defeat of the Nazi Germany appropriating the entire victory for itself in a blatant disregard of the historical facts.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  102. @jilles dykstra

    Concerning yourself, I have no more illusions about my abilities to show or explain anything that you don’t want to see.
    Furthermore, I do suspect that we don’t have the same way to rate the weight of a clue.

    The good news is that you are beginning to ask yourself about your own illusions.

  103. ia says:
    @llloyd

    The article you are reading from is based on a past Haitian President’s archives. The one commenter, Achille, writes, “Possibly for having expropriated, dispossessed and ruined all German families in Haiti twice in the 20th century?” in response to the biased demand for gratitude from Germans. Gratitude of course meaning money.

    Your sources at Wikipedia are bogus.

  104. @Thulean Friend

    Rich Jews would never sell out their own kin en masse the way white rich people do on a regular basis
    They can, and they did.
    Soral doesn’t at all deny jewish ethnocentrism. He say greed is a even more long-lasting and powerful motive.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Thulean Friend
  105. Anon[242] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Wow, just wow. Jews who railed against McCarthyism now do this. Jews also pushed for sanctions against South Africa, Iraq, and Iran. And Russia.

    But Israel? No way. This is a nation ruled by gangsters, and the only law is “Is it good for the Jews?”

    According to Jewish power, none of us can do business with Iran and all of us better do business with Israel.

  106. Agent76 says:

    Jun 20, 2017 Oopsies: Gene Editing Now Admittedly Causes Hundreds of Mutations

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  107. Herald says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    The system won’t let me agree, so very much agreed indeed.

  108. @EugeneGur

    ” that almost no aid came in 1941 when it would’ve been the most helpful ”
    How could it ?
    USA war production began in fact just in 1943.
    Read Lindbergh about the difficulties in organising the Ford factories into producing bombers.
    The first plane that was shown to the public could not even fly.
    In order to appease Stalin Churchill sent a whole convoy to an almost certain death.
    Charles A. Lindbergh, ´The Wartime Journals of Charles A. Lindbergh’, New York, 1970
    David Irving, ‘The destruction of Convoy PQ.17’, London, 1968, 1980

    • Replies: @likbez
    , @EugeneGur
  109. @jilles dykstra

    Hitler’s case for Living Space in the East is quite cogently presented in Mein Kampf and in the (admittedly uncertain) Table Talk.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  110. Cyrano says:

    Maybe Marks ****s Hitler, but Hitler was pretty good at ***ing Marks too. Listen to this logic: The party that Hitler belonged to, was called National-Socialist, yet he hated communist and attacked Russia.

    Communism and socialism are the same. There never was communism – that’s what they were “aspiring” to become in some distant utopian future. So Hitler attacking Russia because they were communist is like US attacking France because they are capitalists. Total propaganda BS on the part of the Nazis – calling themselves “Socialists”.

    The whole last century has been spent on one major task by the west: Combat socialism. Mainly by wars, but propaganda also. And yet, socialism refuses to die. And the idea will never die. I know, someone will say, where have you been in the last almost 30 years? Capitalism defeated socialism in the cold war. Not so fast. Capitalism may have scored a major victory but it may have sustained a mortal self-inflicted wound of propaganda nature. In the last 100 years 3 major ways to fight socialism domestically were discovered:

    1.FDR approach – include little bit of socialism into capitalism, to prevent a lot of socialism (total takeover).

    2.Nazi Germany approach – include none of socialism, but only use its name for propaganda and pretend that all is hunky-dory, and that “socialism” is already here.

    3.US approach – include a little bit of fake socialism in order to prevent a lot of real socialism from taking over. That’s how multiculturalism came into being.

    Again, I must say that the best approach was FDR’s. If capitalism wants to survive – that’s the way to go. Despite all the numerous wars against socialist countries, US haven’t been able to erase the idea of socialism like they were hoping for.

    If you want proof of this, just look at the last US election. Along comes Bernie Sanders, just mentions the name socialism few times – claiming himself to be one – socialist, and wins the primaries, only to be robbed by the Democratic mafia bosses who couldn’t stand the idea of “socialist” running for president – after all the US has done to destroy socialism.

    By the way, I think that Bernie is a good guy, but he is probably as much socialist as Adolf used to be. It still demonstrates the power of the socialist idea to attract people. Pretty clever propaganda ploy on Bernie’s part, but there was no chance in hell the “democrats” would let him run for president on that platform.

    And he would have defeated Trump. Talking about exercise in futility – US trying to erase the idea of socialism. That’s what made them inflict the mortal wound of fake socialism on themselves and might in the end destroy them. FDR approach was the best – little bit of socialism to prevent a lot of it.

    The other 2 ideas are self-destructive.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  111. Charles says:

    An earlier comment stated that The Unz Review is the best English-language site, bar none. I mostly agree. Another point made was that Unz will publish anyone’s viewpoint, including essays on completely taboo subjects (questioning the Holocaust, race/IQ correlation, et cetera). He will also publish people who are antithetical to most of his own readership. This demonstrates his desire for facilitating true free speech, which is an idea long-abandoned in American MSM.
    For anyone who has read to this point, I have a question: why the obsession over Jews and/or Jewishness? I know the standard answers will include international banking, influence in culture, over-representation in media, control of…you get the point. MY point is – when is the last time you saw a Jewish flash-mob overrun a convenience store? How many policemen have Jewish Lives Matter murdered? Granted, a Jew (Soros) indirectly or perhaps directly finances murderous, destructive groups in the USA. THEY seek the destruction of US society – that is a plain fact, if you pay attention to what they say and do. But “world Jewry” is not a monolithic entity; it is in fact the opposite. I will also say that if (a thing which cannot happen) the USA could emulate in some ways the State of Israel, the USA would be a lot better off.

  112. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The Germans did not operate gas-chambers, they have not been that ‘evil’, but they have been stupid enough to cause two World Wars.

    • Disagree: apollonian
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  113. Seraphim says:
    @Charles

    What would be your answer to the question: why are people ‘obsessed’ with Jews and/or Jewishness for more than 2000 years?

    • Replies: @Charles
    , @jilles dykstra
  114. @Guillaume Durocher

    I like to keep this a family-friendly operation.

    That ship has long ago left port. At least it has insofar as “family-friendly” means “child-like”. When discussing and debating such topics as found on Unz, topics of life and death importance, idiotic fears of “bad words” seem to me quite out of place.

    But thanks for using asterisks rather than the appellation “effward” (viz “enward”). If we are going to play grownup here, I’d vastly prefer we use traditional grownup words like “fuck” and “nigger” but that’s just me not wanting to revert to baby talk..

  115. @Agent76

    Jun 20, 2017 Oopsies: Gene Editing Now Admittedly Causes Hundreds of Mutations

    Only a simpleton could have thought that we could do genetic editing without errors. It’s akin to me tinkering with the machine code running my iPad. There is a steep learning curve and mistakes will happen – mistakes that could extinguish our species. One just hopes the folks running the experiments are smart enough to properly quarantine their work. The childlike anti-science religiosity of this video on the other hand reminds me of Amish thinking.

  116. Charles says:
    @Seraphim

    Here we have a good question. I believe that as Christianity began, in all its ways, to dominate Europe – let’s say sometime before AD 1000 – two facts were in evidence: Judaism and Christianity were bound together in some ways, but at the same time were inextricably opposed. It was and is impossible to reconcile the contradictions in those facts. Therefore a “side” has to eventually be chosen, and antagonism ensues. As regards non-Christians, all I can say is that the ancient Jewish conflicts with other Middle Eastern tribes, which obviously long pre-date Christ, are grudges which will never be “solved” except by the destruction of one or the other of the warring factions.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  117. @Digital Samizdat

    Should it matter that Ron Unz is Jewish? Well, FWIW he’s been totally candid about his background and his feelings towards many of the negative aspects of the Ashkenazic Jewish culture.

    The question that emerges pretty naturally: regardless of what definition you pick, why would any 21st century humanist ‘identify’ as ‘Jewish’? It makes as much sense as me identifying as a guided missile frigate (which I might do if it suited me).

    It also depends on what is meant by ‘Jewish’ – a term whose definition is deliberately kept slippery.

    We know that ‘Jewish’ is not a religious identifier – it doesn’t mean “an individual who believes in the central (or any) tenets of Judaism“… because a bunch of people who identify as ‘Jewish’ are atheists: no Yahweh for them (but still with the genital mutilation of baby boys… what the actual fuck?).

    However… I could become ‘Jewish’ if I converted to Judaism.

    And we also know that ‘Jewish’ is not a racial (or even an ethnocultural) identifier, because Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel), Berber Jews, Mizrahim and Sephardim are racially, ethnically and culturally very distinct from Ashkenazim… and furthermore, any member of any of those groups can disavow their ‘Jewishness’ and return to being a simply citizen of their society.

    However… if I fathered children with a woman from any of those groups, they would be (halachically) ‘Jewish’ by default – even if the woman was a committed atheist anti-Zionist.

    .

    It’s easy to understand claims of ‘Jewishness’ for folks who are full-throated believers in a bunch of provably-false primitive drivel: wear the silly hat, tie a box to your head and rock like a mental patient mumbling gibberish… I get that: some folks need there to be an invisible Sky Maniac, and so they participate in ludicrous nonsense. Fine.

    But if you’re a 21st century secular humanist who rejects the Old Nonsense, and also rejects a bunch of the ethnocultural norms (yea verily, even unto the ritual mangling of baby boys’ junk) – well, what is the point of asserting ‘Jewishness’?

    Those folks don’t have to assert it in order to be allowed to have hummus, or latkes or gefilte fish: is it just to keep their parents happy (assuming the parents are ‘committed’ Jews)?

    But again – what if their parents are atheists? Do you do the whole ‘Jew’ thing to keep atheist-Jewish parents happy? Why would an atheist light a menorah, or get drunk for Purim, or organise to genitally-mutilate their baby boy?

    That’s as stupid as me identifying as ‘Lutheran’ just because my father’s mother was a churchgoing lady for almost her entire life. My Dad doesn’t believe any of it; my Mum doesn’t believe any of it; I don’t believe any of it… but I’m “Lutheran” somehow? Nope.

    And if I discovered that somewhere in the forgotten past, one of my ancestors was a devout Red Sea Pedestrian, I would be just as disinterested as I am now. Folks believed in all sorts of stupid shit, and Judaism is about mid-pack in the taxonomy of stupid shit, so it’s not even worth being embarrassed on their behalf.

    As far as the race component goes: maybe there’s some mileage in that.

    I’m 25% Maori – that’s something I can’t change; it expresses itself in some identifiable ways (propensity for violence; a lower jaw with plenty of space for wisdom teeth; square, regular teeth). However I express almost no ethnocultural Maori-ness (except when it suits me) and I don’t have even the slightest interest in traditional Maori religion (which is a load of primitive nonsense) or ethnocultural practices (like slavery and cannibalism… again, except when it suits me).

    But again we get back to the ‘race’ question: to what extent can Jewishness-as-race be a thing? Consider the obvious racial differences between, say, the average Ethiopian Jew and Benjamin Netanyahu – a Lithuanian whose brother claims to have DNA-tested positive for Spanish Sephardism, supposedly.

    As Shlomo Sand has pointed out, he (sand) has less in common with an Ethiopian Jew, than he has with a Palestinian Arab (which everyone immediately assumes also means Muslim, I guess).

    Anyhow – this is kind of a long-winded head-scratch: just as Sam Harris feels obliged to mention his Jewish ‘heritage’ from time to time, Ron Unz has apparently done likewise.

    Weird.

    I guess what they’re actually saying is “I had some ancestors from Lithuania – from all reports they were OK people. Some of them might have believed in some old stories… so I guess that makes me Jewish now?

  118. @Charles

    Jews Simply Refuse To Accept Any Reality But Their Own Private “Idaho”

    For anyone who has read to this point, I have a question: why the obsession over Jews and/or Jewishness?

    Why the “obsession” w. diseases like black plague or typhus or any other horrific, deadly anti-human disease? We humans desperately look for a solution against u Jew monsters. But consider simply our Lord and Saviour, Christ Jesus, for what he had to say about u:

    “43Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.”

    Above quotes are fm New Test. Gosp. JOHN chpt 8, verses 43 and 44. U scummy, psychopathic filth, called Jews, even lie to urselves, pretending u just can’t unnastan’ us gentiles, can’t understand Christ whom u murdered and gloat over having done it in ur filthy Talmud–see Talmudical.BlogSpot.com.

    But I’ll say this about u Jew monsters: it’s surely true that there get to be tooooo many, over-populated gentiles, as presently, I suspect, so u’re the God-given, biologic device by which the gentiles are killed-off and culled-out. Otherwise, u Jew monsters, pretending u’re God, REFUSE to accept any truth or reality apart fm what ur rabbis announce is the official Kosher truth, officially and ceremonially arrived-at in full accord w. Kaballah and Zohar, no doubt.

    U can ck comment # 44, above, where I answer ur compatriot fm France on a similar question he asked me–interesting he had nothing to say about the answer I gave him, ho hoh oho

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  119. @Cyrano

    Communism and socialism are the same.

    How about “Nope“.

    Communism is an end; Socialism is a means that Marx considered the most likely to enable the end-point to be achieved.

    It’s akin to saying that a mall (the end) and a car (the means) are “the same thing”, on the basis that a car is an efficient way to get to the mall.

    To flesh it out: Communism is explicitly anarchic, and is mainly characterised by
    • material abundance and the fulfillment of (self-limited) wants;
    • no ownership of property (not by individuals or the state);
    • no class stratification (and hence no political organisations whatsoever);
    • work as a ‘prime want’ (not a disutility that must be compensated).

    This all seems slightly silly when you write it down, so Marx recognised that there had to be a ‘radical transformation of consciousness‘ whereby people didn’t want what they couldn’t have.

    He reckoned that the best way was to entrust an enlightened clique (the ‘vanguard of the proletariat‘) to take control, and to force society towards the ‘end’ by coercion – until such time as the end was in sight, whereupon the enlightened vanguard would relinquish control and society would be on a glide path to utopia.

    And doing that specifically requires that the ‘vanguard’ controls production and allocation decisions during the transition – which he thought (wrongly) means that the means of production must be owned by the State.

    Hence… Socialism.

    His end is correct so long as you add one adjective.

    A society free of artificial stratification is a desirable end.

    His means were totally wrong because he was a fucking idiot (as well as being a parasitic charlatan).

    The State would not relinquish control under any circumstances, and will actively undermine any mechanism that raises everyone (because that would narrow the gap between the political class and the demos… can’t have that).

    A society free of artificial stratification is where we will end up once technological progress gets past its next ‘knee’ (‘The Singularity‘)… it would be hastened if the parasites in the global political class are put to the sword.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @jilles dykstra
  120. ‘encule’ doesn’t mean ‘fucks’. It means ‘fucks in the ass‘.

    The distinction is important: in the context that the word is used in French, it also implies humiliation.

  121. Cyrano says:
    @Kratoklastes

    I don’t think you understood my argument here. You are correct. Socialism and Communism are not the same in philosophical sense. My argument was that for all practical purposes Communism never existed – and probably never will. Only Socialism existed in one form or another in few dozen countries. Those who really, really didn’t want socialism, thought that it would be a great idea to fake it – so people won’t miss it so much. Prime examples of this great idea – fake it, so hopefully you won’t have to make it – are Nazi Germany and currently – the greatest democracy.

  122. @apollonian

    comment # 44, above, where I answer ur compatriot fm France on a similar question he asked me–interesting he had nothing to say about the answer

    Your answer showed that you did not want or can understand the question, although it was quite simple.
    I previously had the feeling that you had never thought about this question. This was validated by your unability to understand it. Since your abundant babbling had no other interest, I have not pursued the thread but for a specific point. That’s all.

    • Disagree: apollonian
  123. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Without USA economic support GB could not have fought WWI, nor WWII.

    That’s true.

    Of course they would have been much better off not fighting those wars.

  124. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Parisian Guy

    [the soviets] there was no way they could have produced those trucks themselves.

    What is the base of this statement?
    Since they were able to manufacture 50000 T34 (weight: 25 tonnes), they could design and manufacture trucks.

    Of course they could have produced the trucks themselves. But they could not have produced the trucks and the T-34s in the required numbers to fight the sort of mobile warfare that they were fighting by 1944.

    If they diverted manufacturing capacity to produce several hundred thousand trucks they would have ended up producing tens of thousands fewer T-34s, and would have lost the war.

    Don’t get me wrong. I have immense admiration for the achievements of the Soviets in WW2. They certainly managed to stop the Germans using largely their own resources. That was more than the French or British were capable of.

    But without the American trucks and other supplies the result would most probably have been a stalemate, with neither the Germans nor the Soviets able to win a final annihilating victory.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
  125. likbez says:
    @jilles dykstra

    In order to appease Stalin Churchill sent a whole convoy to an almost certain death.

    Destruction of PQ17 might well be the result of double dealing on the part of Churchill. He did wanted that the convoy was destroyed and Russians bleed in the fight with Their Reich.

    It is the same policy as in Harry Truman quote:

    “If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.”

    ― Harry S. Truman

    Actions of the British navy was an act of betrayal:

    On July 4, with the convoy well into the Barents Sea and out of range of the carrier Victorious, and because ULTRA intelligence intercepts caused him to believe an attack by the Tirpitz and the other capital ships was imminent, Adm. Sir Dudley Pound lost his nerve. At 9:11 p.m., the Admiralty issued the first of three messages to Hamilton. With the prefix most immediate, it read: “Cruiser Force withdraw to the westward at high speed.” Then at 9:23 p.m.: “Owing to threat from surface ships, convoy is to disperse and proceed to Russian ports.” Finally, at 9:36 p.m.: “Convoy is to scatter.” With a heavy heart, Hamilton passed on the orders. Reaction was universally one of horror and fury.

    https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-destruction-of-convoy-pq-17/

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  126. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Epigon

    Also, a tank producing factory and a truck producing factory are completely different enterprises.

    It is true that they could have built trucks instead of the immense number of light tanks that they built. Whether they could have built trucks in the vast numbers required is another matter, but they could have built some (they built the light tanks because they were ridiculously easy to build).

    Whether the light tanks were worth building is a controversial question. The Soviets thought they were worthwhile. I suspect they were useful for morale purposes. If you’re an infantryman then having a battalion of light tanks in support is more cheering than not having any tank support.

  127. dfordoom says: • Website
    @apollonian

    And Victor Suvorov (Rezin), author of “Icebreaker,” confirms Stalin’s/bolshies’ plans to attack Germany,

    There have been some interesting discussions of Suvorov on Anatoly Karlin’s blog. Suvorov’s theories are by no means universally accepted (although I personally think he makes a reasonably strong case).

  128. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Very few people seem to know the price GB had to pay for LendLease, I know just one book where it is mentioned: abolition of the British empire

    That’s true, LendLease mainly benefited the U.S., but I wouldn’t say it’s a little known fact. The average Joe in the street doesn’t know about it but I think that anyone who’s read any actual history is aware that the U.S. destroyed the British Empire.

    Alas, British hero Churchill must remain a hero, the book describing Churchill as the undertaker of the empire was never published in original english
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005

    Charmley has had numerous books published in English detailing Churchill’s treachery, his crimes and his follies. Churchill worship is by no means universal, even in Britain.

    • Replies: @JLK
  129. JLK says:
    @dfordoom

    That’s true, LendLease mainly benefited the U.S.

    The leased territories were mostly meaningless islands. Lend Lease was mostly charity.

    War expenses killed the British Empire. The last of the Empire’s gold reserves were loaded onto an American battleship in South Africa during the war, and the British national debt at the end of the war was 200% of GDP. In comparison, Italy’s debt is currently at 130% of GDP and said to be a threat to the European banking system.

    Britain was totally at the mercy of the US Treasury and New York banks at the end of the war. They couldn’t afford to hold onto India when the independence protests started.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  130. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Parisian Guy

    Soral doesn’t at all deny jewish ethnocentrism. He say greed is a even more long-lasting and powerful motive.

    I think he’s probably right.

    Race/ethnic/religious loyalties might be important factors but as far as the elites are concerned class trumps everything.

    The elites, whether they’re jews or gentiles or Asian or whatever, do not see non-elites as belonging to the same species.

  131. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Charles

    Granted, a Jew (Soros) indirectly or perhaps directly finances murderous, destructive groups in the USA.

    Soros is an atheist isn’t he?

    Has it occurred to anyone that that is your problem right there. If there’s a Jew working to destroy society he’s probably an atheist Jew. If there’s a gentile working to destroy society he’s probably an atheist gentile. If there’s a dot Indian working to destroy society he’s probably an atheist dot Indian.

  132. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Seraphim

    The Germans did not operate gas-chambers, they have not been that ‘evil’, but they have been stupid enough to cause two World Wars.

    All the European powers bear responsibility for WW1. The Serbs set the explosives and the Austrians lit the fuse. The Russians, the Frennh, the German and the British all behaved with incredible stupidity, cynicism and short-sightedness.

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  133. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @m___

    No need to use Wikipedia, just read the Haiti Constitution of 1805, article 13.

    “12. No whiteman of whatever nation he may be, shall put his foot on this territory with the title of master or proprietor, neither shall he in future acquire any property therein.

    13. The preceding article cannot in the smallest degree affect white woman who have been naturalized Haytians by Government, nor does it extend to children already born, or that may be born of the said women. The Germans and Polanders naturalized by government are also comprized (sic) in the dispositions of the present article.”

    http://faculty.webster.edu/corbetre/haiti/history/earlyhaiti/1805-const.htm

  134. Seraphim says:
    @Charles

    I remains to see in what ways Judaism and Christianity were bound together and in what ways they were inextricably opposed. To see whether the bind and the opposition are at the same level. The devil is in the details. They can’t be both true at the same time and in the same respect, as old Aristotle would have put it.

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  135. @dfordoom

    Balfour already in 1907 said to the USA ambassador ‘that perhaps war was the cheapest way to maintain the British standard of living’.

  136. @Seraphim

    The theory that Paul invented christianity as secret agent of the Roman emperor, to destroy jews also culturally, is an attractive one.
    Writing this the thought crosses my mind ‘what is the difference with the present Putin and Russia bashing ?’.

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  137. @dfordoom

    Even atheistic rabbis exist
    Having, feeling, a jewish identity hardly has anything to do any more with religion

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  138. @JLK

    ” Lend Lease was mostly charity. ”
    Is was for world domination by the USA.
    The plan failed completely.
    The USA citizen footed the bill.
    I know of just one book where USA buying power before and after WWII was analysed:
    Peter H. Nicoll, ´Englands Krieg gegen Deutschland, Ursachen, Methoden und Folgen des Zweiten Weltkriegs’, 1963, 2001, Tübingen ( Britain’s Blunder, 1953)
    Few people realise how the production of USA luxury cars as the Duesenburg was never resumed.
    ‘War’, stated a historian’, ‘is the way politicians destroy apparently superfluous wealth’.

  139. Bliss says:
    @JLK

    Hitler’s supposed contempt for the Slavs seems to be at best a gross exaggeration. Of course he wanted to steal some of their land, but Slavs were considered Aryan

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

    Untermensch (German pronunciation: [ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ], underman, sub-man, subhuman; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazis used it to describe non-Aryan “inferior people” often referred to as “the masses from the East”, that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs – mainly ethnic Poles, Serbs, and later also Russians.[1][2]

    Biology classes in Nazi Germany schools taught about differences between the race of Nordic German “Übermenschen” and “ignoble” Jewish and Slavic “subhumans”.[34]

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  140. @likbez

    It was not the only bloody show Churchill organised.
    There also was the raid on, I think, cannot find the title of the book, on the French coast town of Dieppe.
    Canadian troops were sacrificed in order to convince Stalin that an invasion still was out of the question.

    Churchill never wanted the Channel landings, he wanted an invasion in what has been Yougoslavia, but was never very precise about what exacly he wanted.
    There was, during the whole war, deep distrust by Stalin about Churchill.

    What FDR really thought about Stalin is one of the many things we do not know about FDR.
    An interesting statement by FDR when WWII was nearly over was ‘that he hoped that the E European countries would have a civilising influence on Stalin’.

    I often wondered how world history would have been had not FDR got polio.

  141. @Kratoklastes

    Communism is totalitarian, the dictatorship of the proletariat.
    Socialism is democratic.

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  142. Epigon says:
    @dfordoom

    You still insist on the ridiculuos notion that Red Sormovo, Uralmash, STZ and similar T-34 producing plants could produce trucks.

    Have you ever seen the insides of a truck manufacturing plant in WW2, and the insides of a tank arsenal? Armour foundries, engine shops?

    You can’t retool a V-12 diesel line to produce truck petrol engines, or repurpose chassis and armor welding equipment into truck body production. Reality isn’t a video game.
    The other commentor pointed you towards the fact that T-40, T-60, T-70, SU-76 production lines used truck engines and hypothetical truck production lines.

  143. @Seraphim

    How obsessed ?

    In my opinion jews are a unique group in world history.
    No other group succeeded in exerting so much influence in the world, despite being dispersed over the greater part of the world.
    People as Soros and Bernard Baruch, in my opinion, just exist within the jewish nation.
    Nation here defined as having a common identity.

    Of course, there were, maybe are, other rich people who had the idea they should interfere in world affairs, in the Netherlands the Philips of the Morele Herbewapening (I never understood what it was), and Fentener van Vlissingen.

    Francois de Wendel, between the two world wars was the unofficial king of France, he had close contacts with a (the ? French Rothschildt.
    He stated about Hitler ‘Hitler’s great mistake was that he underestimated the power of world jewry’.
    Jean-Noël Jeanneney, ‘Francois de Wendel en République, L’Argent et le Pouvoir 1914-1940, Paris 1976

    What motivates (d) men as Baruch and Soros, I still do not know.
    From Baruch’s books my impression is that it is a weird mixture of revenge, fear, paranoia, lust for power, maybe even the idea that just jews are human, with the illusion that they were creating a morally better world.

  144. @Guillaume Durocher

    The concept to this day has remained hazy.
    Mein Kampf was written after WWI, Versailles ended German economic expansion towards the SE, the Berlin Bagdad railway was intended to end in Basra.

  145. The question is this.

    Why have Jews always been successful in Christian societies? What is the specific recipe for their relative prosperity?

    If we accept that Jews have a somewhat higher IQ deviation from Christians of 7 or so IQ points, why is this? Did Christianity attract the less intelligent or capable?

    Why do cities with large populations whether New York or Los Angeles have higher GDP than cities in the US with no Jews? Why do Jewish cities produce more wealth even if they lack the resources like oil (Which NYC has none of).

  146. @Anon

    Don’t be silly. The average American family cannot read French. Mom and Dad cannot, anyway. If the youngins by any chance are taking French lessons they can, but that is just as well, as long as they will not tell Mom and Dad, which they will not, if they are typical American youngins. And when they grow up they will forget their French and become average American Moms and Dads themselves.

    If this all seems quite absurd it is because I am accepting the author’s assumption that average American families read the Unz review, which they of course do not. They read the New York Times if they are extremely intellectual, otherwise they watch reality TV. On their vacations they go to Las Vegas and play the casinos (I mention this in response to Mr. Giraldi’s funny notions on his latest article).

  147. Imagine if the only “nationalist pundits” employed by Israeli television were, curiously, Christians . . .

    It probably will not happen in Israeli television, but in a lot of other places that is exactly what happens. Evangelicals in America play that role to perfection. In Brazil they have just elected the President and a huge number of Congressmen.

    Israel didn’t have to spend one cent with training or arming these people. Best deal ever.

  148. Here are a few quotes from the book of Hennike Kardel (Jew) somewhat lengthy.
    ADOLF HITLER – FOUNDER OF ISRAEL israel in war with jews
    …………The uncertain black spot in the life of his born-out-of-wedlock Jewish grandfather, Frankenberger, was cleared for sure by three illiterate men Romeder, Breiteneder, and Paukh, and by a document signed with three “X” marks but without the required signature of a very careful village pastor. And did not Hitler, after he became Fuehrer, explain to his legal advisor Hans Frank, a son of a Bamberg’s Jewish lawyer, that he learned from his grandmother Schicklgruber that her son Alois, Hitler’s father, without any doubt originated from an affair with the Jew Frankenberger? Why then, for fourteen years Frankenberger paid faithfully for the support of the born-out-of wedlock Alois? Noticeable in this Hitler’s story about his grandmother is the fact, that Madame Schicklgruber died many years before he was born.
    One year later a new expert on Hitler, Mr. Fest, strongly contradicted Mr. Maser’s research results: “Obviously Maser cannot defend his thesis although he presented it as evidence. Anyway all his arguments are doubtful in a similar way.” (3) After such a quite correct statement, for Mr. Fest the complex matter suddenly became simple: “In this context the question of Hitler’s grandfatherhood is actually of a secondary rank.” (4) For the researcher Fest from that moment on the entire question of Hitler’s Jewish origin “is a subject of subordinate interest.” (5) Let us protest now! ………..
    The reader might look unsuccessfully for a book which long ago disappeared from the market. It was an extraordinary and instructive investigation conducted by a German Jew Dietrich Bronder, a high school teacher. Its title is: “Before Hitler Came”.(*) It was printed in 1964 and is about who was who in the Hitler’s apparatus:
    “Of Jewish descent, or being related to Jewish families were: the Leader and Reichschancelor Adolf Hitler; his representatives the Reichsminister Rudolf Hess; the Reichsmarshall Hermann Goering; the Reichsleader of the NSDAP Gregor Strasser, Dr.Josef Goebbels, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Heinrich Himmler; the Reichsminister von Ribbentrop (who pledged close friendship with the famous Zionist Chaim Weizmann, the first head of the State of Israel who died in 1952); von Keudell; field commanders Globocnik (the Jewish destructor); Jordan and Wilhelm Hube; the great SS-Leaders Reinhard Heydrich, Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski and von Keudell II, who also were active in the destruction of Jews. Next came Hitler’s bankers and before 1933 supporters: Ritter von Stauss (Vice-president of the NS-Parliament); von Stein; the General Field Marshall and Secretary of State Milch; the Under-Secretary of State Gauss; the physicist and old Party members Philipp von Lenhard and Abraham Esau; the very old party-member Hanffstaengel, NSDAP’s newspaper Chief of Foreign Department (later on an advisor to President D.E.Roosevelt) as well as professor Haushofer.”‘ (8) (Inset: all of them were members of the secret Thule Order/ Society) This list is not complete. If you devote a little time to these findings of the relation between Hitler’s sick hatred towards his kinsmen, with his henchmen on one side, and the creation of the State of Israel on the other, then you should satisfy your curiosity. Nevertheless the author as well as the publisher will be thankful for any new evidence which might emerge.
    Neither theUK, USA, France or any other county did not grant 1000 wealty Jews refugee status, us which AH allowed to go to Palastine. Why not gas them and keep the mony?
    (*) I have the book but it is only in German as a pdf.
    https://www.amazon.com/Adolf-Hitler-Founder-Israel-Jews/dp/0965752305
    I have to stop now quoting books. What I find somewhat strange is, that Kardel presents AH as a ‘self hating Jew’ although Hitler already in adolescent years surrounded himself with jews. I find it difficult to believe that the number of Jews in top positions in the Wehrmacht and the admin were all ‘self hating’ Jews, hell bent on the (‘destruction of the Jews in Europe’) or rather creating a homeland for the european Jews, i.e. to make Europe ‘Jew free’.
    The IC 1st class was presentet to him by a Lt G u t m a n.
    Or was Hitler et al the most brilliantly executed FALSE FLAG operation of all time? With only very very few people knowing what was really going on.That’s what I think it was.
    Now look at the postheroic German “men” brainwashed for 70 Years 24/7/365.
    ……………………
    Moreover, author Alfred Smith relates that on May 13, 1941, only three days after Hess landed, Churchill sent a memo to his colleague, Anthony Eden…It concludes with the words ‘Like other Nazi leaders this man is potentially a war criminal and he and his confederates may well be declared outlaws at the close of the war. In this his repentance stands him in good stead.’ Smith raises the question: ‘Why did Churchill describe Hess as a potential war criminal?…The “Crimes against humanity,” and in particular the Holocaust, did not take place until after the launch of Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, a month after Hess’s flight.’ Smith concludes: ‘The only construction that makes sense of Churchill’s remarks is that he was aware of the war crimes that were going to be committed in the future’ (Smith, Rudolf Hess, p. 341). Retrieved from ” https://wikispooks.com
    source: G C Preperata
    Amen

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  149. @dfordoom

    Religion (Judaism in this case) has absolutely nothing to do with it.

  150. @Jeff Stryker

    Using official government economic statistics is misleading. Los Angeles and New York are resp. centers of media/propaganda and parasitical finance capitalism, both of which are inherently destructive of society, indeed civilization. These are Jewish economic “accomplishments”.

  151. annamaria says:
    @apollonian

    The word is indeed spreading about the “mysterious” circumstances of WWI and WWII: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-17/stampede-gadarene-swine-us-leaders-allowing-ukraine-pull-them-global-war
    Comment section:

    After World War I, the victorious allies had carved up German territory and given part of Germany (Western Prussia) to the newly re-established nation of Poland. Eastern Prussia was left isolated; totally cut off from Germany. Tensions among Poles, Jews and minority Germans simmered in the area.

    To resolve the problem, Hitler makes numerous sensible proposals; which include: demilitarization of the key port areas, public referendum, accepting Gdynia as a Polish port city on the Baltic Sea, 1 km wide rail & road passages to link Eastern Prussia to Germany, or to link Poland to the Baltic Sea.

    Even the pre-war August 28th headline of the Hitler-hating New York Times confirmed that Hitler sought to avoid war with Britain & France. Hitler’s thoughtful letter to France is published in full.

    Finally, as attacks against Germans living in Poland escalate, Hitler proposes that the region be placed under International control. Every German proposal is ignored. We now know that, behind the scenes, US President Roosevelt had been pressuring Poland to not make any deals with Germany

    LATE AUGUST – SEPTEMBER 1939
    In 11th hour attempt to avert war, Hitler calls for emergency talks between Germany and Poland.
    Just three days before the actual outbreak of what was to become World War II, Britain agrees to come to the Poland’s assistance in the event of a conflict with Germany. (Anglo Polish Military Alliance) This unecessary deal emboldens the Polish and Jewish militias who want the West to wage war upon Germany. To force Hitler’s hand, terrorists begin murdering German civilians in large numbers. A British ex-Pat named William Joyce describes the events:

    “On the nights of August 25 to August 31 inclusive, there occurred, besides innumerable attacks on civilians of German blood, 44 perfectly authenticated acts of armed violence against German official persons and property. These incidents took place either on the border or inside German territory.

    On the night of August 31, a band of Polish desperadoes actually occupied the German Broadcasting Station at Gleiwitz. Now it was clear that unless German troops marched at once, not a man, woman or child of German blood within the Polish territory could reasonably expect to avoid persecution and slaughter.”

    And yet, just prior to ordering the invasion of Poland (September 1, 1939), Hitler is still trying to resolve the situation peacefully by summoning the Polish Foreign Minister for talks. Unbeknown to Hitler, the fix was already in. After the 3 week German-Polish War ends in victory for the Germans, Hitler declares:
    .
    “I attempted to find a tolerable solution. I submitted this attempt to the Polish rulers. You know these proposals. They were more than moderate. I do not know what mental condition the Polish Government was in when it refused these proposals. As an answer, Poland gave the order for the first mobilization, and my request to the Polish Foreign Minister to visit me to discuss these questions was refused. Instead of going to Berlin, he went to London.”

    OCTOBER 1939
    In speech before Reichstag, Hitler pleads with Britain & France to rescind recent war declarations.
    Before the actual shooting was to start in the Western theatre, Hitler did all could to reassure Britian & France of his peaceful intentions. The two Allied powers had, under the pretext of saving Poland, both declared war upon Germany on September 3, 1939. Before the Reichstag, and the world, Hitler declares:”I have always expressed to France my desire to bury forever our ancient enmity and bring together these two nations, both of which have such glorious pasts. ….I have devoted no less effort to the achievement of Anglo-German understanding, no, more than that, of an Anglo-German friendship. At no time and in no place have I ever acted contrary to British interests…”Why should this war in the West be fought?”

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
  152. annamaria says:
    @fnn

    “Germans and Russians were racially indistinguishable…”
    — Russians were also the diligent students of German culture for centuries.

  153. @organplayer

    Good grief, “organplayer,” but u’re just ANOTHER psychotic Jewwy liar, eh?–u make so little sense w. ur moronic babbling. And we see u don’t even bother reading the earlier thread postings, like above no. 47, before u repeat ur lies and lying. Hitler was no Jew, not descended fm Jews, see https://carolynyeager.net/fake-legends-adolf-hitler%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cjewish-grandfather%E2%80%9D .

    And the holohoax is just more Jew lies, debunked many times, pushed by Jewwy liars like urself, for purpose of excusing genocide and on-going murders of Palestinians for one, at the moment, the rest of the gentiles in due course. But that’s the way u repetitiously play ur “organ,” eh organ-player?–ho ho ho ho ho. Just keep lying and maybe some of it will stick w. the dumber ones who bother reading ur crap.

  154. @Jeff Stryker

    If u bothered to read the previous postings of the thread u pretend to contributing to, like my above #44, u’d have a better idea for things. Jews are simply the foremost, most organized CRIMINALS, that’s all–their religion is criminal, following their filthy, satanic Talmud–see Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com.

  155. @Jeff Stryker

    Why do Jewish cities produce more wealth even if they lack the resources like oil (Which NYC has none of).

    What is the actual wealth produced by Goldman Sachs?
    You are confusing actual wealth production and the power to take a share of that wealth.

  156. AmRusDebate says: • Website

    I can’t figure out why this article is being published here, and why Guillaume Durocher has written what he’s written, because it results in misleading Unz readers about an individual who if anything, is inimical to virtually everything Unz stands for and what most readers come here for. This fawning, and uncritical portrayal of one of the principal censors and obstacles to political dialogue in France, reveals either an uncanny degree of ignorance by the author of his subject, or deliberate misinformation.

    I ask openly if Guillaume didn’t write this article with alternative motives, and if so which. To ingratiate himself with Soral and his clique, as they are ruling over the French “street” scene .

    Anyone familiar with the European political scene, especially that of France, would know better than to sing encomium to someone of Sorel’s character, and ilk, .e .low grade scum-bags, whose career was made entirely by a media avid for controversy, provided it came from a low-brow thug, whose whiteness and stupidly served their purposes of creating the ideal caricature of an anti-Semite, semi-fascist, and overall highly confused born-with-a-silver-spoon bourgie-wanna-be-prolo.

    First there is the long-term speculation that Soral is some kind of pigeon stool, or involved with the French police in one way or another. The number of cases he’s physically attacked opponents, indicate an uncanny willingness by French magistrates to turn a blind eye. Remember, the boy is as White as snow. People are doing time in the Stasi French state for far less remarkable transgressions. The French state is highly selective. It doesn’t go easy on White boys. They are its token symbolic sacrifices, it offers to the altar of Multi-culturalism.

    Soral attacks people physically, yet magically avoids the standard three day jail terms to which even POC detritus is regularly subject. Yes, the French state has a long history of infiltrating and managing political movements, and several of the more visible figures on the French alternative scene, have remarkably close ties with the state, either through siblings, or their rather obvious travel budget. It is possible, although unlikely, that the establishment uses Soral to their ends without his knowledge, something alleged by his sister, but concurring with this assesment is to assume Soral’s abject imbecility. He is stupid, no doubt, but to that degree? Such an assessment doesn’t’ comport with the obvious pass Sorel gets from French authorities. In France, the state has systematically disbanded group after group of various political street movements, the minute organized violence was detected, or even misattributed to them. Considering all the vulnerabilities of Sorel’s thugs, he’s definitely getting a pass. Without a scintilla of doubt.

    Granted this is speculative, but in relation to Soral’s “importance” for the French political “underground” this speculation is a necessity.

    For what Unz readers do not learn from Durocher’s panegyric to a thug, is that Soral has become de facto boss of the French political alternative scene, destroying and creating careers, nearly always using physical threats, coercion, and organized violence.Again, does Durocher not know his subject? How else do you get away with turning France’s most powerful Political Censor into an icon of creative syncretistic political thought?

    [MORE]

    Sorel’s political model is based on the permanent physical presence of largely Arabo-Islamists thugs, the same who burn cars, loot, and rape. He doesn’t go anywhere without them. No platform, no interview without their watchful eye. They are his praetorian guard. He literally will punch, assault, and systematically use these thugs to attack anyone who dare speak of Whites, Whiteness, the White Race not only in his presence, but on the internet, blog posts, and especially personal communication! I mean if it quacks and walks like a duck!? The French establishment could not invent a better and more punitive method for policing the more critical elements of the lower-dregs than this guy. I don’t know what he has to do for it to become obvious what it is he does, wear a police hat, sherif’s star, and carry a billy club!?

    Soral was born into a really well off family (large land-owners on the French Swiss border), whose father had a criminal record; a white collar criminal who actually did time for his malfeasance (considering Soral’s obsession with Jews, an ironic biography. ) . Soral became the mainstream’s favorite “non-mainstream” token activist, using his sister’s good name. Agnes Soral is a famous actress in France. She has publicly regretted having “sired” this monster when she explicitly let him use her good name to advance his career. In the Hexagone one gets nowhere without the right family connections (or if you’re gay, sodomizing the right targets). Agnes is herself a bit pathetic at times, regularly admitting that she and her brother were beaten as children, and similar left-wing clap-trap public confession ritualistic self-flaggelation when facing a panel of zoellers holding the strings to her next second-rate cinema reel.

    Due to his Arabo-Muslim praetorian, anyone who so much as dare utters a bad word about Islam, and Muslims becomes an automatic target for Sorel and his thugs. Internet, radio, and (again) even personal conversation are monitored by him and his ilk, and he makes it his business, to silence all and sundry who disagree with his view. The process precludes any possibility respectful debate or exchange of ideas, and involves immediate denigration (“I fuck your wife…” “you’re wife is a slut” “sone of a whore” – and this is his immediate knee-jerk reaction just in the first instance), physical threats, and when possible, actual physical assault from Soral.

    One might counter that Soral began his own “career” as a victim of physical attacks. The videos of these assaults are public access, and some of them are chilling. One might add that it was the JDF, that started it all, along with an LGTB gang. Soral is resentful of Jewish exceptionalism, but one wonders just how, in this case of the pot calling the kettle black, how genuine the attacks on him were, and how it is that as a victim of these attacks he had no problem transitioning on the offensive with the same impunity they once enjoyed, but no longer seem to, forwarding for ten years. Whereas the process of the JDL’s immunity from state prosecution is well known to Unz readers, it being a Jewish organization tasked with physical defense of Jews, no one asks the same question about Soral’s own immunity, considering that it is even greater than that of his “putative” enemies.

    Again, the biggest flaw of Durocher’s article, is to ignore Soral’s anti-White punches. Literally. Were this a mere issue of political opinion, one could dismiss Duroche’s encomium to Sorel as brown-nosing ingenue, but to sell us on France’s most active political censor, is to basically tell us that Tariq Ramadan is good for democracy and the West’s future. It’s ludicrous.

    For example, why not mention the attack on Canistrano, Guillaume? Several times during an exchange, Soral was allowed to hit Canistrano, merely for bringing up race as an issue, and calling Soral on the presence of his Arabo-Muslim thugs. No one intervened to stop Sorel, most importantly, the police never took him to task.

    No police complicity?

    No comment Guillaume?

    One can quibble, as idiots are want, with why Canistrano didn’t defend himself.

    Could it be that he simply didn’t expect Soral’s impunity.

    An impunity rooted in what?

    No opinions Guilllaume?

    Canistrano was just a lanky kid from an actual French ghetto, calling a spade a spade. He’s White whether he wants to or not (none of the White privilege of actually being able to disassociate from whiteness!) and that’s the way he talks. He’s not a genius either, but it is specifically his lack of masculinity, that makes him such a threat to the French police state which loves to pit thugs againnst thugs in ordeer to discredit eveyrone, inn ordeer to avoid the ultimate threat to its existance – that of freedom of thought and freedom of exchange. The French state programmatically hates “race” and hates the possiblity of Whites waking up to reality. Canistrano was the worst of the worst, because he didn’t sport Nazi tattoos, wasn’t from a rich background. Ideal type to take out physically, for it’s when the supposedly spinneless beginn to speak, that the real threat to the state materialises.

    No problem. They sent Sorel on the case. Sorel took care of it. Case closed.

    This isn’t an anecdotal incident. One could count at least another hundred case involving Sorel, featuring the same dynamic.

    Yes, Soral is a die hard Anti-Semite.

    So what?

    I personally wish for a stronger Jewish response, not weaker.

    As has become too common, Jewish organizations are exposed as capable of only pestering middle class Whites, i.e. people same as themselves (although not benefiting from the exceptionalism clause) but when it comes to dealing with actual threats – Jews are nowhere to be seen! Total powerlessness.

    I suggest Alt-Right American public figures invite Soral to a French language exchange (the Marx fucks Hitler boy cannot speak a word of any foreign language) specifically on the subject of race, and you’ll see how long it takes before Soral’s fists are flying.

    Anyone who even proposes this will get a “fuck you” in the mail and youtube insults for the next year on Soral’s website.

    You have to give it to the French state. It is light-years ahead of America when it comes to managing French politics, and the street scene. It can easily dupe American publications. It has centuries of experience.

    You want to be associated with this management either through ignorance or complicity, Guillaume? C’est quoi ton choix?

    • Troll: Parisian Guy
  157. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “And Victor Suvorov (Rezin), author of “Icebreaker” …

    The works by Suvorov remain a matter of debate among historians. …

    In June 10, 1978, Rezun [Suvorov] defected to the United Kingdom. He was smuggled out of Switzerland to England with his wife and two young children, and he worked as an intelligence analyst and lecturer.

    Suvorov is also an occasional columnist for the Ukrainian UNIAN news agency’s web site.

    Resun is no Solzhenitsyn. Moreover, in the highly insulting manner for Russians, this turncoat (Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun from Ukraine) has appropriated the name of a famous Russian patriot Suvorov.

    Resun looks and quacks like an opportunist.

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  158. @AmRusDebate

    PS. For anyone with a decent physique who actually does challenge Soral to any kind of debate, even here in the US, be prepared to see your wife’s or daughter’s picture on his website within days of your communication with him. It will be her picture, with the words “whore” and “I fuck this whore” that he’ll keep up on his site for the infinite future.

    That’s literally what this piece of shit does. With a team of 25 producers, and 50 Arab thugs in Saint Denis, they will dox you, and use personal issues to vex and incite you. Naturally there will be no follow up from him for an actual exchange, but the insults will be permanent.

    Thanks for selling Unz readers on shoe-shine, Guillaume. You have taken what Unz readers hate the most – the Stasi methods of modern PC regimes – and sold them as manna.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  159. EugeneGur says:
    @jilles dykstra

    USA war production began in fact just in 1943.
    Read Lindbergh about the difficulties in organising the Ford factories into producing bombers.

    I sympathize with the difficulties. Then stop telling the story how the Western production won the war. By 1943, the outcome of it was essentially decided. Let me remind you, if your memory is at fault, that by the end of 1941 the German offensive towards Moscow was stopped and the first Soviet offensive began on December 5th of 1941. Apparently, the Russians had no difficulties of any kind even in 1941.

    In order to appease Stalin Churchill sent a whole convoy to an almost certain death.

    Think me naive but I thought the purpose was to fight the Nazis.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  160. @annamaria

    Musial could investigate USSR archives.

  161. @EugeneGur

    ” Apparently, the Russians had no difficulties of any kind even in 1941. ”
    Such ignorance and stupidity cannot be refuted.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  162. fnn says:
    @AmRusDebate

    You have to give it to the French state. It is light-years ahead of America when it comes to managing French politics, and the street scene. It can easily dupe American publications. It has centuries of experience.

    The American permanent state is now getting pretty good. They set up the events at Cville and are now prosecuting anyone who fought the Antifa effectively. Of course none of the Antifa are being prosecuted. Then there are all the doxings, deplatformings and online fundraising bans.

  163. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    As a good Marxist, Soral argues that political conflicts primarily involve class, rather than race.

    That all depends on the genetic structure of the population.

    Prior to the industrial revolution, the upper classes had more surviving children than the lower classes, with the result that the upper classes were downward mobile. This meant that members of the upper classes generally had poor relatives and members of the lower classes often had rich relatives. Thus there was a degree of national coherence based on shared family history among the classes.

    The changed conditions of life following the industrial revolution resulted in an increase in the fertility of the lower classes they huge expansion in their numbers naturally creating among the upper classes a fear of revolution at the same time that the family connections between the upper and lower classes had become so tenuous as to be virtually non-existent. Under those circumstances, the upper classes naturally came to view the lower classes as, at best, a necessary evil, and at all times a constant danger. Hence the present-day Revolt of the Elites.

    What is required, if the Western nations are not to destroy themselves entirely, is a rational and explicit population policy, which will once again make wealth a breeding advantage.

    How to do this? Two things are required:

    First, no more breeding on the dole. Welfare mothers should be denied all assistance unless they identify the fathers of their progeny. The father’s identities must then be confirmed by compulsory DNA testing, and the fathers must be required to pay child support or spend time at forced labor in debtors’ jail.

    Second, the low fertility of intelligent women must be reversed by the provision of financial security in return for a commitment to family ahead of careers. There are many ways such security could be provided. One would be to provide massive child tax credits, on a scale increasing with the number of children, the credits to be paid to the mother in cash for life.

  164. JLK says:
    @Bliss

    The Wikipedia article is riddled with factual errors and based mainly on Allied war propaganda.

    “Aryan” was a term invented by the British, not the Germans, and it was synonymous with “Indo-European.” Slavs are indisputably Indo-European. There was no doubt ethnic bias against Slavs among Germans like there has been throughout history between European peoples, but it had nothing to do with their being non-Aryan. There was also probably German war propaganda that denigrated Slavs just as US war propaganda called Germans “Huns” and depicted them as brutish apes. Such is war, unfortunately. You have to lie to get most ordinary people to murder each other.

    Hitler himself wasn’t as hung up on racial differences as victor’s history would have you believe. He allied Germany with the Uralic Finns and Hungarians (who technically were not Aryan), also with Japan and cooperated militarily with China before the war. He wrote in Mein Kampf that he freely admitted that Chinese culture had a superior history to Germany’s. He also referred to Russians as a “great people,” albeit one currently under the whip of Jewish Bolsheviks.

    There is no historical doubt that Nazi propaganda and discrimination against Jews was pervasive and vile (especially in the case of Julius Streicher and Der Stuermer, which even senior Nazis found repulsive). Nazi leaders like Hitler and Goering also became very wealthy while in office, which is usually a sign of bad government. This and the ruin that Hitler brought on his own people and the rest of Europe should be enough to discredit them forever. There’s no need to exaggerate the record.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  165. m___ says:
    @m___

    Our excuses, ten years of acquaintances living in Haiti, and still unaware of any German-Poland colonies. Our sincere excuses. There are stories of negro people on the Jacmel coast, having pale blue and green eyes. There skin tone is Caribbean black. Regression to the mean we suppose.

    The most powerful local oligarchs in contemporary Haiti, are mixed Euro-Africans initially, adding to the mixture on the white side in any generation since Tousaint Louverture, are of Syrian descend, mostly unmixed, and …Jewish. Just an addition on a tangent.

  166. EugeneGur says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I guess sarcasm is wasted on you, isn’t it? I thought so.

  167. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Even atheistic rabbis exist
    Having, feeling, a jewish identity hardly has anything to do any more with religion

    Which is sad. I don’t see how they can survive as a people if they abandon their religion.

    Of course there are also plenty of atheists among the hierarchies of Christian churches these days. For starters there’s pretty much all the bishops of the Church of England. Which is equally sad. And it’s very noticeable that the Christians who are most active in trying to wreck our society are usually atheists in practice.

    But if you’re English you’re still English even if you abandon the Church of England.

    Although, looking at modern England, perhaps a large part of the reason they won’t exist as a people in fifty years’ time is their abandonment of religion.

  168. m___ says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Your remarks are candid. We will bite our tongue, and answer for completeness sake later on.

  169. @AmRusDebate

    Nobody is interested in your character assassination. (Maybe justified or maybe not. who cares.)
    Go back to the article and analyze it. That is the purpose of this site.

    • Replies: @AmRusDebate
  170. @JLK

    There is one peculiarity that you should investigate.
    Only Slavic languages have in their alphabet this strange Jewish sound KH.
    Wonder why?
    You could also investigate why french are not pronouncing h

  171. And here are the news!!!!
    Attacks on Trump are now climaxing.
    Soon we will be witnessing ejaculation,
    This is going on the schedule,
    It will happen in the middle of winter so white people will not demonstrate.
    Globalist Zionist think about everything. They are smart.

  172. @Guillaume Durocher

    He may be: that kind of who is not afraid of worldwide ridicule when showing the ultimate proof of iranian nuke at the pulpit of UN.

    My best guess, he’s not, because of too low an IQ. Such an idiot had not thought that anyone can check the french Internet by means of Google translation and discover how the actual french Alt-Right differs from his novel.

    It looks like his deepest rant is actually that in France the Soral group has left in the shade almost all the other trends of french Alt-Right, especially the anti-islam & pro-zionists ones which have now some link to the Steve Bannon network.

    Not far ago, these national-zionist trends were ridiculed by the Soral versus Raptor story. If you know the details, you understand why they need now to brush the picture of Soral as a pityless rough thug.

    • Replies: @AmRusDebate
  173. @Parisian Guy

    The question then becomes why cities with rich natural resources like oil in the US where there are no Jews are relatively poor and cities with no natural resources that do have Jews are relatively wealthy.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
  174. @Parisian Guy

    Soral doesn’t at all deny jewish ethnocentrism. He say greed is a even more long-lasting and powerful motive.

    And I say he’s wrong. Israeli elites could just as well flood their countries with cheap labour as European elites do if greed was the overriding factor, but they don’t. And they would just need to use Palestinians within greater Israel.

    A much better example, perhaps, would be China. Unlike Israel it does not have a high native birthrate. Why are Chinese elites not flooding their big country with Indians or Africans or others? They are reversing on the One Child Policy, but it is too little, too late. Chinese people are not having any kids.

    If his theory was right, then we’d see Chinese elites start opening the taps. What we see is the opposite. He’s intellectually blinded by White pathological behaviours. And, judging by your response, he isn’t alone in that limited thinking.

    For people where ethnocentrism is weak, greed is more powerful, but this is far from true for all peoples.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  175. @Jeff Stryker

    Do you really think New York was relatively poor (in a comparative sense) in the late 1800s (right before the large jewish influx) compared to other major US cities? Similarily, do you think Amsterdam was one of the poorer cities before it received a large influx of jewish merchants wanting to do business?

    Jews did not make these places prosperous. They simply moved there because that is where the opportunities were back in the day, and still are. Imagine not understanding this and crediting Jews for simply moving to prosperous places. Imagine being this cucked.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  176. Svigor says:
    @apollonian

    Christianity is fine. You can pour (enough of) what you like into it to make it do what you want. I can sketch out a muscular, WN version of Christianity just fine. TL;DR version: Judaism is the basis of Christianity and Judaism is racist as fuck, so universalize the racism such that every Christian people gets their own, racist flavor. Simple.

    I don’t have much patience for one-true-wayers, of any kind. I.e., the annoying Christian-hating fucks who happen to overlap mightily with LARPING nazis. Don’t have much use for the Christian WN one-true-wayers, either, but IME they have fewer boots on the ground. Either way, I’d read both groups out: intolerance for other Whites = fuck you, we don’t need you.

    • Replies: @apollonian
    , @Seraphim
  177. @Thulean Friend

    Jews did not make these places prosperous. They simply moved there because that is where the opportunities were back in the day, and still are. Imagine not understanding this and crediting Jews for simply moving to prosperous places. Imagine being this cucked.

    “Jeff Stryker” is simply a Jew who refuses to face fact his Jews are Talmudists, by definition, hence CRIMINALS. Of course criminals move to where the money is for the OBVIOUS reasons. See Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo on Talmud which preaches Jews are, collectively, God who create reality (by means of extreme collectivistic subjectivism), who prosecute war, genocide against gentiles, who gloat over murder of Christ, saying mother of Christ was prostitute, etc.–this is what Judaism and Jews are all about–ck their basic document, the Talmud, also Zohar, basis of Kaballah.

  178. Svigor says:

    As for Pierce, IIRC (it’s been many, many years) he suffered from the same misapprehension that many other hard-core WNs like Covington do; he attributed more conscious malignancy to Jews than was plausible. I suspect part of this is projection: Pierce and Covington were high-minded, thoughtful white men capable of levels of introspection that just aren’t available to most Jews (Jews are especially deficient in the ethnic sense). They projected that level of capability for self-review onto Jews, when I just don’t think it’s in evidence. Jews really are wired differently than we are. Pierce and Covington mistake astounding levels of selfishness and callousness for high levels of maliciousness.

  179. Svigor says:

    Make no mistake, I’m not trying to diminish the opprobrium directed against Jews; either Jews are a malignant group, or they’re our moral inferiors. Either way, we’re not talking philo-semitism.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  180. @Svigor

    Literature Of Christianity, The Real Philosophic Core

    One merely needs understanding Christianity as philosophy, this based in New Test. which is LITERATURE, not essentially diff. fm Homer’s Illiad and Oddysey–literature serving as vehicle for an internal PHILOSOPHY. For note, historically, people first appreciated and rec’d philosophy in guise of literature and religion.

    Worst thing ever happened to Christianity was it was turned into such putrid, filthy MYSTICISM, the people taught that “faith,” which is properly only LOYALTY, is idiot beleeeeeeeeeeeeevin’, this beleeeeeeeeeeeeeevin’ now presented as something that creates reality–and I’m sure it is this mysticism that so much offended such as Pierce.

    So u only have to appreciate the actual literature and story line: Christ preaching, re-stating, and clarifying the Mosaic law of Old Test. to the people, Christ especially then, additionally, taking issue w. the Pharisees who Christ said were heretics, who St. Paul said were “grafted-out” of the real “Israel,” the true people of God.

    Thus the Pharisees, foremost subjectivists, satanists, and LIARS (Gosp. JOHN 8:44) had Christ killed, Christ, God the Son, being TRUTH itself (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), Pharisees so much hating truth, but truth not capable of being destroyed because it’s necessarily founded upon a genuine, OBJECTIVE reality. Thus truth (= Christ) resurrects, and the joke is on the satanists (hence Jews). Such is the lesson of New Test. Thus the people can justly have confidence in the truth.

    Further, the ETHICS taught by Christ, most revered by Christian people, are then founded upon that basic OBJECTIVE reality in accord w. logic, etc.–this ethics being what people MOST appreciate about Christ and New Test.

    So u can see the real Christianity is eminently rational and logical, as noted by St. Thomas Aquinas, for one, but the corrupted “vatican,” in order to appeal to the mass of goons and “people,” turned it into that putrid mystic mish-mash of mumbo-jumbo which understandably offended Pierce who failed to appreciate the actual literature and philosophic core to it all.

  181. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The ‘theory that Paul invented christianity as secret agent of the Roman emperor, to destroy jews also culturally’ has the same merit as the theory that Paul was a Jewish agent who invented christianity to destroy Rome and its culture (ahem, ‘white’ pagan), zero.

    A sign of the slide of ‘humankind’ into second childhood. As St. Paul himself said: ” For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto myths (idle tales, fables, fanciful stories)”.
    No ‘Road to Damascus’.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  182. @Svigor

    Jews: Foremost Satanists

    Make no mistake, I’m not trying to diminish the opprobrium directed against Jews; either Jews are a malignant group, or they’re our moral inferiors. Either way, we’re not talking philo-semitism.

    Jews?–they’re simply a disease, not essentially diff. fm black plague or typhus, who take-out and remove, kill, and eliminate the over-populated, excess pop. of gentiles (and Jews too).

    For note Jews are foremost satanists, extreme subjectivists, holding reality is mere creation of mentality/consciousness, making themselves God, the creator–satanism. And this satanism is confirmed fm their filthy Talmud featuring “midrash” (interpretation) of Torah and everything else. See Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com.

    Thus Jews, foremost satanists/subjectivists, naturally dominate and lead the huge mass of gentile satanists and subjectivists, Jews being COLLECTIVIST subjectivists, leading group-thinkers, most organized, most dedicated, most committed, and cohesive. See also my note # 44, above, this thread.

  183. @Seraphim

    Anything to back up your assertion ?
    Obviously you know nothing about the period between when Paul began and when the Roman empire adopted christianity.
    I can recommend
    Michael Rostovtzeff, ‘Geschichte der Alten Welt, Rom’, Bremen 1961 (1924 Berlin)
    The book originally was published in english
    But we agree to some extent, Rome did not oversee the long time consequences of christianity for the empire.
    This is often the case with propaganda.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  184. Seraphim says:
    @Svigor

    Svyatoslav the Khazar-Slayer and contemptor of Christians did not listen to his mother who urged him to get baptized but continued to live as a pagan. The chronicler Nestor philosophized: ‘Woe to the one who doesn’t listen to his mother, he will end badly, because it is written: “The one who doesn’t listen to his father and to his mother, will be punished with death”. And the Khazars had him in the end, cut his head and drank from his skull. (All right, I made it up, there were actually the Pechenegs, but they were sort of Khazars, too).

    • Replies: @apollonian
    , @Svigor
  185. @jilles dykstra

    “USA technical military support of Russia already began in 1933”

    USA technical military support of Germany already began around 1933: ask Ford, Standard Oil, Rockefeller, Bush, etc.
    Without the help of Americans, Hitler could not even think to invade Poland. Speer dixit.

    The same policy – to destroy European countries – goes on nowadays by installing nuclear weapons in several European countries. Hoping for a mutual destruction. Only now it is necessary to think twice if Russia as the capabilities to destroy USA too, how far away they are.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  186. @Seraphim

    “The one who doesn’t listen to his father and to his mother, will be punished with death”.

    Hey Jew: doesn’t everyone die?–whether they listened to ma and pa or not?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  187. @Thulean Friend

    You’re reasonning about countries. Soral was speaking about individuals.

  188. Svigor says:
    @Seraphim

    Smash the Khazars, fall to the Pechenegs?

    A fate I would embrace wholeheartedly.

    P.S., kudos for knowing who “Svigor” is. You’re the first, IIRC. 😀

    I forgive him his Works without Faith. 😉

  189. Seraphim says:
    @apollonian

    The brilliance of your mind is truly appalingnian.

  190. @Seraphim

    Gee thanks, Jew: someday I hope and pray to be almost equal w. a Jew in the eyes of our dear Lord in heaven, ho ho ho hoo

  191. @Olivier1973

    Assertions.
    Obviously you know nothing about how Germany, contrary to Versailles orders, created an army again.
    One result was the rocket engine.
    About the attack on Poland, read a book about it.
    It was the other way round, without the AG Farben method for synthetically producing rubber the USA could not have wages war.
    Japan had seized all natural rubber.
    What it is that people know nothing, and yet make assertions, I do not understand

  192. @Parisian Guy

    (more than 10 millions died, against around 0.1 million from US)

    You get points in war for how many of the enemy you kill, not how many of your soldiers die.

    The allies had already achieved air superiority over Germany during the Battle of Britain while the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was still in effect and with the Soviet Union supplying Germany with the oil which they lacked. At that same time, in North Africa, the German advance was coming to a halt with The Siege of Tobruk and Operation Battleaxe.

    The allied navy preventing Germany from trading with the world and the strategic bombing campaign were not insignificant.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Parisian Guy
  193. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Russian deserters who volunteered for German forces were hardly used

    What could they be used for in mechanized warfare? Panzer divisions were short of tanks and fuel, not crews.

    P.S. How many Japanese POW’s were employed as pilots by the U.S. Navy?

  194. @dfordoom

    Of course they could have produced the trucks themselves

    Really?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  195. @Parisian Guy

    Answer also accepted: “Muh GDP”

  196. Krollchem says:
    @apollonian

    Here is an article that points to Germany being defeated prior to the US entering the war:

    “Historian Dr. Jacques Pauwels analyses the evolution of World War II, focusing on the “Battle of
    Moscow” in December 1941 which preceded the defeat of German troops in Stalingrad in February
    1943. According to Dr. Pauwels, the turning point was not Stalingrad but “the Battle of Moscow” and
    the Soviet counter-offensive launched in December 1941:

    When the Red Army launched its devastating counteroffensive on December 5, Hitler himself
    realized that he would lose the war. But of course he was not prepared to let the German public
    know that. The nasty tidings from the front near Moscow were presented to the public as a temporary setback, blamed on the supposedly unexpectedly early arrival of winter and/or on the incompetence or cowardice of certain commanders.

    It was only a good year later, after the catastrophic defeat in the Battle of Stalingrad during the winter of 1942-1943, that the German public, and the entire world, would realize that Germany was doomed; this is why even today many historians believe that the tide turned in Stalingrad .”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/70-years-ago-december-1941-turning-point-of-world-war-ii/28059

    • Replies: @apollonian
    , @dfordoom
  197. @Krollchem

    Jew World Order Consistently Rampaging Since 1914

    Comrade: u’re so TOTALLY, utterly deluded regarding overall strategy. Germans NEVER had a chance. Don’t forget Germans LOST WWI and were deliberately crippled FOREVER right then and there, confirmed by Versailles Treaty.

    Dear unc’ Adolf attacked USSR as pure DEFENSIVE, last-gasp measure. “Allies,” instigated by Jew S A, attacked and declared war on Germany in 1939, after UK (Brits) made offensive alliance w. Poland in Mar 1939–GET A CLUE. Poland had threatened Germany w. war if Germans didn’t let Poland have Danzig–GET A FRICKIN’ CLUE.

    Everything Germany and Hitler did was in way of a desperate DEFENSE fm the very beginning in 1939–and this defense is HOW u know holohoax was/is such a moronic lie.

    And Jew S A Lend-Lease was absolutely crucial and instrumental, part of the plan fm very beginnings, without which such Lend-Lease USSR was doomed.

    Thus WWI was for world dictatorship of Jew-dominated Jew S A, UK, and France; the USSR was model and template. WWII then was the clinching moment by which Jew world order was established forcefully, definitively; everything since then has been CONSOLIDATION–they’re still at it, even brazenly having announced Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE (population-reduction).

    U need to re-orient ur entire mentality and grasp of world history and events, buddy.

  198. @Seraphim

    I did suspect. But I did not really know until this day.

  199. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    The allies had already achieved air superiority over Germany during the Battle of Britain

    No. The British had, just barely, prevented the Germans from achieving air superiority over England during the Battle of Britain.

    At that same time, in North Africa, the German advance was coming to a halt with The Siege of Tobruk and Operation Battleaxe.

    An amusing sideshow which helped the British to feel better about their inability to do anything worthwhile militarily.

    The allied navy preventing Germany from trading with the world

    I’ll concede that one.

    and the strategic bombing campaign were not insignificant.

    It had some effect. It was a war crime but it did have some effect.

  200. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Of course they could have produced the trucks themselves

    Really?

    They could have produced some of the trucks themselves had they not bothered producing all those light tanks. I did add the point that it was doubtful if they could have produced the required numbers.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  201. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Krollchem

    According to Dr. Pauwels, the turning point was not Stalingrad but “the Battle of Moscow” and
    the Soviet counter-offensive launched in December 1941

    That defeat certainly made it less likely that Germany would succeed in winning a quick victory. And they needed a quick victory. After that stalemate was the most likely outcome. I still maintain that, without Lend-Lease, even after Kursk a stalemate was the most likely outcome.

    That’s not quite the same as losing the war.

    And without American intervention the British contribution would have been irrelevant.

  202. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Because they don’t bother to read even Wikipedia:

    “In 1909, a team headed by Fritz Hofmann, working at the Bayer laboratory in Elberfeld, Germany, succeeded in polymerizing isoprene, the first synthetic rubber*
    “The first rubber polymer synthesized from butadiene was created in 1910 by the Russian scientist Sergei Vasiljevich Lebedev. This form of synthetic rubber provided the basis for the first large-scale commercial production by the tsarist empire, which occurred during World War I as a result of shortages of natural rubber. This early form of synthetic rubber was again replaced with natural rubber after the war ended, but investigations of synthetic rubber continued. Russian American Ivan Ostromislensky who moved to New York in 1922 did significant early research on synthetic rubber and a couple of monomers in the early 20th century. Political problems that resulted from great fluctuations in the cost of natural rubber led to the enactment of the Stevenson Act in 1921. This act essentially created a cartel which supported rubber prices by regulating production, but insufficient supply, especially due to wartime shortages, also led to a search for alternative forms of synthetic rubber.
    By 1925 the price of natural rubber had increased to the point that many companies were exploring methods of producing synthetic rubber to compete with natural rubber. In the United States, the investigation focused on different materials than in Europe, building on the early laboratory work of Fr Julius Nieuwland, a professor of chemistry at the University of Notre Dame, who developed the synthesis of neoprene.
    Studies published in 1930 written independently by Lebedev, the American Wallace Carothers and the German scientist Hermann Staudinger led in 1931 to one of the first successful synthetic rubbers, known as neoprene, which was developed at DuPont under the direction of E. K. Bolton. Neoprene is highly resistant to heat and chemicals such as oil and gasoline, and is used in fuel hoses and as an insulating material in machinery. The company Thiokol applied their name to a competing type of rubber based on ethylene dichloride,[5] which was commercially available in 1930.
    The first rubber plant in Europe SK-1 (from Russian “Synthetic Kauchuk”, Russian: СК-1) was established (Russia) by Sergei Lebedev in Yaroslavl under Joseph Stalin’s first five-year plan on July 7, 1932.
    In 1935, German chemists synthesized the first of a series of synthetic rubbers known as Buna rubbers. These were copolymers, meaning the polymers were made up from two monomers in alternating sequence. Other brands included Koroseal, which Waldo Semon developed in 1935, and Sovprene, which Russian researchers created in 1940.

    *”In Elberfeld, the chemist Fritz Hofmann had been leading development work at the Bayer pharmaceutical laboratory since 1909, working on the compound methylbutadiene (isoprene), which was further processed to become dimethylbutadiene (methyl rubber). The properties of methyl rubber, however, proved unsuitable for tire production”.

  203. @jilles dykstra

    It was the other way round, without the AG Farben method for synthetically producing rubber the USA could not have wages war.
    You are fallacious.
    The question was about willful help. This has nothing to do with that case when the Buna patent was used without its owner consent.

  204. @Hippopotamusdrome

    >> (more than 10 millions died, against around 0.1 million from US)

    >You get points in war for how many of the enemy you kill, not how many of your soldiers die.

    Be serious, please. There is a 1:100 ratio.
    Since all armies were more or less at the same technological level, therefore, this 1:100 ratio is the perfect clue of the efforts from each side. And I stand by what I said: US was the scavengers of WW2 in Europe, thus they need to rewrite its history. And you just are doing that.

  205. @llloyd

    Well, that would certainly explain the misogynist Boris Becker!

  206. Olivier1973 says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    A lot of thanks for the laugh!
    Quite obviously you know NOTHING about how Germany created an army again and who helped Hitler.

    “One result was the rocket engine.”
    Too bad, the first V1 were launched only in june 1944 and were used mainly to target civilians. Useless militarily.
    What is that to do with the start of the war in 1939? You are almost 5 years outside target.
    You need to educate you better.

    “About the attack on Poland, read a book about it.”
    I only need to listen to what Albert Speer said. You know who Albert Speer was, do you?
    You skipped my argument, because you have none. Ignorance is not an argument.
    Did I speak of rubber? Straw man fallacy.
    Now Speer:
    “According to his armaments chief Albert Speer, Hitler “‘would never have considered invading Poland’ without synthetic fuel technology provided by [DuPont-Standard Oil-] General Motors.”

    What is it that this guy knows nothing, and yet makes derogatory comments (for him)? I understand that he needs education.

    https://michelduchaine.com/2014/02/10/re-ecrire-lhistoire-lappui-financier-de-wall-street-a-larmee-du-fuhrer-adolph-hitler-partie-1/

    https://michelduchaine.com/2014/02/11/re-ecrire-lhistoirelappui-financier-de-wall-street-a-larmee-du-fuhrer-adolph-hitler-partie-2/

    I feel deeply sorry for you if it happens that you are not educated enough to understand a second language. It is never too late to start learning, you know.

    https://www.jpost.com/Blogs/The-Jewish-Problem—From-anti-Judaism-to-anti-Semitism/Arming-the-enemy-US-industry-Hitler-and-the-Holocaust-366097

  207. @jilles dykstra

    Communism is totalitarian, the dictatorship of the proletariat.
    Socialism is democratic.

    Neither of those things are true, although they’re common beliefs.

    The Wikiquote page for the term ‘dictatorship of the proletariat‘ gets it exactly right:

    In Marxist theory, the dictatorship of the proletariat is the intermediate system between capitalism and communism, when the government is in the process of changing the ownership of the means of production from private to collective ownership. It is termed dictatorship because it retains the ‘state apparatus’ as such, with its implements of force and oppression. According to Marxist theory, the existence of any government implies the dictatorship of one social class over another. The dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is thus used as an antonym of the dictatorship of the proletariat. (bold emphases mine)

    The end-point – Communism – is completely free of stratification; that means that no individual or group has coercive power over any other individual or group. It is not possible to have totalitarianism without political structures, and it is absolutely explicit in the theory that there are no political structures under Communism.

    As far as Marx was concerned, Socialism (the transition phase) required State ownership of the means of production, which in turn required the absence of political pluralism (i.e., there has to be a one-party state). It is during this phase that the State takes control of the means of production – that is the dictatorship of the proletariat.

    Marxist theory includes the famous cliché that the State and Party – in complete control under Socialism – will voluntarily “wither away” once they have completed their task of managing the transition to Communism.

    It’s the most obviously stupid part of the theory; it assumes that the sort of people attracted to power, are the sort of people who are willing to give it up.

    As for ‘democratic’ socialism: again, it’s mostly a furphy.

    In theory, part of the justification of government ownership of the means of production – the very definition of Socialism – is that planning horizons for the transition are far longer than those used in capitalist calculation. Socialism believes in ‘tweaks’ to a grand, over-arching Plan (capital letter: it’s not any old plan); it rejects the idea of political competition, because of the potential for total disruption of the existing Plan.

    Marx thought this because he (and others) thought that if you permit political competition, the parties’ theories about the optimal Plan might diverge: a new Party might get selected on a specific platform of abandoning an existing Plan.

    Abandoning a very long-tailed Plan entails significant cost – one of the very big weaknesses is that Marx didn’t understand the concept of sunk cost: a decent back-of-the-envelope rule is that the correct thing to do today, has nothing whatsoever to do with anything that happened until this morning – and everything to do with the NPV of decisions available today: what has been spent already has value only if the flows it generates in future, exceed the flows available from scuttling past plans. Sunk cost is an unforgiving taskmaster – and it exposes massive flaws in political ‘solutions’.

    Ota Šik (a post-WWII Czech economist, whose main works saw him run seriously afoul of the Soviets after the Prague Spring) had a go at trying to introduce some quasi-competitive attributes to the theory, in his “The Third Way: Marxist-Leninist Theory & Modern Industrial Society” (1972). Šik’s proposed solution to the information problem was to permit manager s to behave ‘as if’ they were competitive – but still within the framework of a one-party State.

    Same with Deng Xiaoping – the man whose 1970s reforms are almost solely responsible for the transition of China’s economy.

    Deng believed that economic choice was more important than political choice: that if you were worried about social upheaval (of the sort being seen in the Soviet Union at the time) the solution was not to crack heads, but to permit people to keep more of their output.

    So after Mao’s death, Deng took the opportunity to liberalise China’s internal economic system, but kept in place a one-Party State: economic pluralism before political pluralism.

    It worked (so far): China has gone from having 90% of its population living below the poverty line, to less than 1% – in less than two generations. It’s the most staggering ‘rising tide’ in human history.

    My conclusion is that if China had liberalised politically at the same time as it liberalised economically, things would have been even better.

    That’s because I understand that removal of constraints is [almost] always a good thing (the worst possible outcome is no change, and that’s only true if the constraint is non-binding).

    Most arguments about political systems can be reduced to arguments about which constraints to put in place; since private economic activity seeks to optimise private discounted expected net benefit, political actors must believe that unfettered private activity results in lower optima than would be the case under their preferred configuration of constraints.

    In other words they believe that the search space has multiple local maxima, and their constraint-set can restrict the search space so that the search is biased towards regions where the local maxima are larger than the one that will be arrived at under any alternative configuration of constraints.

    Given the complexity of economic interactions, the direct costs of interference, and the cross-market effects of any interference, the proper way to look at competing systems is to ask yourself about the probability that some set of political grifters can adduce the (or even a) set of constraints that will bump the search to a new, higher society-wide equilibrium.

    That probability is zero – whether the grifters are Socialist, Communist, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green or whatever.

    That’s largely because of the massive uncertainty surrounding the future: political life thrives on the assertion that they can find a better “expansion manifold” (i.e., a set of economic configurations from now until forever), and yet a very large proportion of politicians are utterly innumerate (e.g., UK pols can’t tell you the probability of a fair coin coming up heads twice in a row) and the people willing to be advisers are almost as bad (bureaucracy never attracts the brightest people, even in a one-party State: the smart people find a way to leave the country).

    It’s trivial to find a constraints that increase the personal wealth of the political class; particularly since that’s their actual objective. Their schtick is the claim that they aim to improve socety-wide outcomes.

  208. AmRusDebate says: • Website
    @Guillaume Durocher

    What does that change about your article?

    You shill for a DST thug – silver spoon born ignoramus, and your only response is “are you Jewish”.

    That the substance of your reflection?

  209. AmRusDebate says: • Website
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Nobody? Really?

    You mean if you’re sold a bridge in Brooklyn, or a fatburger, you’ll just swallow it whole?

    smart girl.

  210. AmRusDebate says: • Website
    @Parisian Guy

    What are you suggesting – you whose very username suggests something gay?

    I know what you put in your mouth. un bon quéquette du Soralisme, n’est pas, petite pédé.

    Check out my work at amrusdebate.wordpress.com
    bannedfrommedium.wordpress.com

    I am not a Zionist stooge.

    I’m no one’s stooge.

    When it comes to droppings like yourself, you’re the stooge of the mirror reflection of what Soral attributes to Jews – your own Jew obsession.

    Marine Le Pen is no small fry. She regularly expresses views aligned with the Alt-Right and is the closest collaborator of Bannon in the country. You talk of being in the shade. Damien Rieu is also significantly more interesting than your Soral.

    You’re one of those pathetic French twits who would prefer the sadism of a Soral, to growing a pair of your own balls and effectively fighting for your voice in France. With Soral you’re guaranteed un bon bite du M’bala M’bala en +, si le blanc ne te suffit pas, mais tu aurait rien du politique, petit con.

    but wait! wait!

    does he have a high IQ!???!

    Is he Jeeeeeeeeeeeeewish!!??

    Implicitly according to you, all Jews have high-IQs, hence you suffocate in jealousy, don’t you little Soraliste!?

    Oh les pédés, toujours et partout paraille!

  211. Hitler’s purported hatred of the Slavs is questionable. He and other NS theorists suspected certain Slavs of Mongoloid admixture, but also held that there were pockets of Aryans among the Slavs. Hitler for his part also did not consider the German nation to be fully Aryan/Nordic, but to instead consist of several racial cores that were to some degree intermingled.

    I’d be remiss if I failed to note that Hitler did express a strong dislike of the Poles, but this had more to do with old-fashioned nationalist reasons, such as the victor-supported seizure of German land after WWI, than theories of racial inferiority.

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