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Are the young Brits and Americans who genuinely feel guilty about the colonial and racist crimes of their white ancestors also willing to be subject to a special whites-only tax allocating a significant portion of their incomes to Black organizations so justice can, finally, prevail? Will these young White revolutionary spirits support, for instance, a bill that prevents White people (including their parents of course) from passing their wealth to their offspring so justice can be done and Black people can be compensated for centuries of racist abuse? I really am trying to figure out the true meaning of ‘White guilt,’ does it carry personal consequences?

Since the history of the British Empire’s criminality is vast, I find myself wondering whether our guilt-ridden revolutionary youngsters also feel responsible for the situation in Palestine? Are they going to push the British Government to put to an end to its ties with Israel until justice is restored in Palestine and the indigenous people of the land are invited to return to their villages and cities? Are those young British anti racists willing to come forward and apologise to the people of Pakistan or Ireland? And what about the people of Dresden? In short, I would like to know what, exactly, are the boundaries of this British post-colonial ‘ethical awakening’?

I wonder whether those who insist upon toppling Churchill’s monuments are willing to accept the possibility that David Irving might have been right all along in his reading of the British leader?

Since the Left has fought an intensive and relentless battle against the notion of ‘historical revisionism,’ I wonder whether those who currently insist upon ‘setting the record straight’ understand that what they do de facto is revise the past. Is it possible that the Left has finally accepted that revisionism is the true meaning of historical thinking?

Finally, are the youngsters who adhere to left and progressive values and insist upon a better, more diverse and anti racist future willing to admit that there are a few Black slaves under the monopoly board? I ask because to date, not one Left or Progressive voice has come forward to state that this Mural is all about Black slavery and capitalists.


(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. They have no skin in the game so to answer your question no of course not! They can protest, riot, destroy, deplatform, froth at the mouth. They can walk around with their sledgehammers and cans of spray paint, but it costs them NOTHING! Not even a small prison sentence.
    If and when it actually COSTS them something you’ll quickly see them STFU!

    • Agree: T. Weed, trickster
  2. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Are the young Brits and Americans who genuinely feel guilty about the colonial and racist crimes of their white ancestors also willing to be subject to a special whites-only tax allocating a significant portion of their incomes to Black organizations so justice can, finally, prevail?

    I would. However, I am ironically not a progressive, the whole progress thing never held much emotional or religious appeal to me. I am more of a racialistic ethnonationalist and indigenous rights champion…

    Because I view myself as a recombination of my ancestors, the sins of my ancestors feel like they are basically my own. So I feel genuine white guilt. I’d like to purge it through reparations. So many of the whites in the major Northern US cities have literally no ancestors who were in the US before like 1900 that I highly doubt that they feel any white guilt, and yet it is them who engage in the harsh shame-shun progressive politics against the rural, heritage Americans.

    I don’t see much point in both giving money to black and brown people and also allowing them to gradually inherit the territory and infrastructure of the lands my ancestor’s built up (a.k.a. Europe).

    I mean, we didn’t take their whole pies, either. Except for Indigenous Americans. But nobody is talking about returning the land to them, except this racialistic ethnat (i.e. me). Technically, they do get reparations from the US Government in the form of cash payments, for all non-US readers out there.

    • Replies: @Omegabooks
  3. Always a pleasure to read you, Gilad!

    • Agree: T. Weed
    • Thanks: Gilad Atzmon
  4. Chris Moore says: • Website

    I wonder whether those who insist upon toppling Churchill’s monuments are willing to accept the possibility that David Irving might have been right all along in his reading of the British leader?

    I’ll add another question: when are the corrupt left and the neocons going to admit that the vast majority of whites had nothing whatsoever to do with slavery, colonialism and systemic racism, which was really all about benefiting the One Percent, and that the kind of people who supported those things in the past are international left and neocon supporters of wars, Globalism, open borders, and Anti-racism(TM) today?

    What whites and earnest anti-war types are guilty of — both in the past and today — is being naive or apathetic about the systemic evil and insatiable greed and ambition of warped Whites, twisted Hebrews and Marxist/Neocon grifters.

    The Bible asks: Am I my brothers keeper? The answer seems to be: You better be, or the Evil Ones will blame you for their sins, destroy you and your offspring, steal the product of your labor and civilization, rewrite history to conceal their role, and then laugh all the way to the bank (or rather, insiders Federal Reserve Club) about it.

    There is nothing that central bankers, their lawyers and politicians, and the psychotic kosher club isn’t guilty of, including stirring the current race war by leveraging the globalist masses of ignorant, naive or cynical useful idiots against Western and Christian civilization.

    This project to rob, plunder and destroy the West has been going on since the Rothschilds got into bed with the Chamber of Commerce on the right and the Marxists on the left.

  5. Jake says:

    Gilad,

    You are sitting in England. You are a smart man who usually sees large pictures and comments on them intelligently.

    So let’s see the whole picture here of English warring to get rich that results in large scale harm.

    England exists only because pagan Germanic warlords (Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians) invaded post-Fall of the Western Roman Empire, partially Romanized, largely Christianized Celtic Britain, which had been left largely defenseless by centuries of Roman rule that denied locals being armed and trained. How much should England pay to the Celtic descendants for those atrocities, which featured making chattel slaves or serfs of virtually all Celts in the south-central and southeastern parts of the island of Britain that later would be named England?

    The Norman invasion stole most of what the Angles and Saxons had stolen from Celts. How much should descendants of Normans pay to descendants of the old English for that invasion? It should be noted that the Normans did not reduce the Anglo-Saxons to slavery or serfdom – the Normans just took much of their wealth and almost all their power.

    The English with the Tudor Revolution stole 100% of Catholic Church property and money stores (such as endowments for schools and hospitals). How much should England pay to the Catholic Church for that crime?

    How much should England pay to Ireland and Scotland for centuries of warring desolation and subsequent cultural genocide?

    During the Great Famine, everything grew in Ireland but potatoes, and the English landowners kept shipping tons of food grown in Ireland both to England and the world market while millions of Irish suffered starvation, approximately a million a half dying. How much should England pay Ireland and the Irish for that horror of English insatiable greed and desire for genocide?

    How much should England pay to the descendants of white natives of the British Isles who were sold into slavery in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries?

  6. Sparrow says:

    When you have a bankroller satanist (Soros) organizing the Democrat terrorists aka BLM/ANTIFA and paying these PRIVILEGED criminals to destroy a nation (just like Syria/Iraq et al)…who by the way blatantly call for donations that go directly to the Democratic party for these crimes…

    It’s not about slavery, oppression, depression, cops, the blue sky…it’s about sell out’s and their roll. When you have buku decades of FREE welfare (housing, food, medical, college degree et al) to these same criminals that never intend to positively contribute to a community, when you have organized jewry using these plantation blacks and whites to unravel any resemblance of law, order and the Constitution this nation was created with, and when you have the control of the US Military to stand down and let it happen…IT’S NOT ABOUT HISTORY as in the propaganda, but it IS ABOUT TRUE HISTORY when it comes to color revolutions, coups, civil war and terrorists. Just take a look at what BOTH PARTIES have done in the BLM shade to cover the continuing theft of Palestine, the continuing arming of SA to destroy Yemen, the continuing THEFT OF US TAX DOLLARS TO LINE THE POCKETS OF JEWSTATE ISRAEL, the secret installation of AI and 5G surveillance, the (losing) grip on Venezuela, the continuing SMOKE AND MIRRORS of a boogy black antichrist called George Floyd created along with a boogy white cop Chauvin to platform a SHAM for the masses to be afraid of and deceived by, the continued FABRICATED Covid Jew Plandemic to shut everyone up in an organized bolshevik coral to ultimately destroy. When you remotely start to anal-yze the most corrupt government the world over that controls peoples the world over by a counterfeit currency…the end will always meet the beginning. JFK started to pry open that vault. RFK’s remarkable courage against that mafia corruption (whose seat is in occupied Palestine) did just enough to keep the truth alive before his life was assassinated like his brother. The reality of BLM/Antifa or any other fabricated name to use in the endless circle of corruption and violence can’t sustain itself as proven already…just like all the rest of the fabricated lies that have no truth to stand on…will and is falling. Those who have bought a bus pass destined unto this poison swamp will die with it. To believe that nations like China, Russia, Iran etc are not part of this swamp are ultimately deceived… as the darling of occupied Palestine is and always has been joined at the hip with MANY COUNTLESS BARGAINS, COUPONS, TRADES, INVENTIONS, DECEPTIONS and anything else that the Beast by its golden Mammon can rule with. Hypocrisy can’t resist nor can a lie win over a lie… ever. Only the Truth can set us free.

    • Agree: nietzsche1510
  7. ‘Are the young Brits and Americans who genuinely feel guilty about the colonial and racist crimes of their white ancestors also willing to be subject to a special whites-only tax allocating a significant portion of their incomes to Black organizations so justice can, finally, prevail? ‘

    First off, the notion that this would be ‘justice’ is an oxymoron — unless you subscribe to the notion that guilt is collective and transcends the barrier of generations.

    So — since you implicitly do believe that, Gilad — let’s begin at the beginning, so to speak.

    What did you have in mind to personally offer in the way of reparations for the killing of Christ?

    Then — moving on, so to speak — a lot of us have quite a bill to settle with the descendants of the Mongols and Asian horse peoples in general.

    Etc, etc. Then too, forcing blacks who were captive anyway to accept a life of unpaid agricultural labor rather than becoming human sacrifices at that fall’s harvest festival kind of pales in the scale of historical outrages. So does putting an end to sutee and endemic famine in India by introducing choo-choos.

    Finally, I really fail to see why I — of all people — should feel guilty about anything. To my knowledge, the one ancestor I had who had anything to do with slavery or colonialism at all was an immigrant from Germany who fought in the Civil War — on the Union side. While I personally have been nearly — and literally — lynched for my skin color by blacks on one occasion, and told that I would be rehired ‘if a black or Hispanic candidate can’t be found’ on another, I genuinely can’t think of any instance where I personally have discriminated against anyone on the basis of race to anything like that extent. But that’s okay: I don’t expect any checks in the mail.

    Surely, you can come up with a more defensible cause to advocate than this. There are scads of them. If you must persist with it, though, perhaps you should address the actual people who committed these acts you find so abhorrent. Are any of them reading your column?

    Then too, British and American ‘colonial and racist crimes’ really are pretty small beer compared to the more impressive depths of human inequity, savagery, and cruelty.

    Finally, the whole concept of collective guilt extending across generations is a moral travesty in itself.

    To say you can do better,Gilad, would be an understatement. Could you do worse?

  8. In the words of Paul Craig Roberts, the left, media and certain politicians are just using black people to advance an agenda.

    Some pushing selective and collective guilt are hypocrites. In Blighty for example Jewish journalist Rachel Shabi has been demanding for another slavery museum in London but not in Iraq the land of her parents where lots of Africans were taken as slaves (see Zanj rebellion). She is equally quiet on modern slaves in Qatar where she does freelance work for Al Jazeera.

    Likewise opportunist and mayor Sadiq Khan is silent on reparations for the Siddi, descendants of East African slaves who went taken to the Indian subcontinent.

    Finally the evil British ruling class doesn’t want to talk about local girls being used as sex slaves by mostly Pakistani men. The sly Turk and his government can’t even release the report into this appalling matter.

    • Replies: @anon
  9. Gilad makes an important point:
    “… not one Left or Progressive voice has come forward to state that this Mural is all about Black slavery and capitalists”.
    Does it matter that “voices” are almost always partisan?
    You bet it does.
    Partisan voices see and magnify what they want to see; and are blind to what they are terrified of seeing.
    That matters.
    It matters that official history has been blinded.
    It matters that even official science has been blinded. Haven’t you noticed the blindness of official medical scientists in recent months?
    Thank you, Gilad, for pointing out the relentless war against honest history.
    Your fearful choice of words – “the notion of ‘historical revisionism’” – hints at how dangerous it is to be frank about issues that ‘they’ desperately want ‘us’ to remain forever blind to.
    Does it matter that ‘we’ are denied access to honest history?
    Likewise for honest medical science?
    The courageous medicos who have spoken out, and continue to speak out, deserve ‘our’ profound gratitude.
    Isn’t it horrible to be terrified into silence?

  10. Finally, are the youngsters who adhere to left and progressive values and insist upon a better, more diverse and anti racist future willing to admit that there are a few Black slaves under the monopoly board? I ask because to date, not one Left or Progressive voice has come forward to state that this Mural is all about Black slavery and capitalists.

    Only you could write something like this Gilad, connecting hook nose Jews with David Irving in the same article. Hit all the Jew hatred boxes for a solid post comments. Irving = Holocaust = Holocaust denial the UR house specialty. Make sure you will not go home empty handed.

    The left doesn’t comment on the black slaves under the board because it is not a legitimate cause and reaction. Capitalism and hook nose Jews did not cause or maintain slavery, unless you are speaking euphemistically about class warfare.

    Slavery has been around since biblical times. The Roman Empire thru to the Russian revolution when the uneducated serfs of the Russian Empire were freed, way after the US abolished slavery. Slavery has to do with the aristocratic houses whose kings and queens are chosen by god. Land ownership in the feudal system included servitude by serfs who worked the land for the nobleman, so cheery picking some examples around a monopoly board does not get the job done when thinking of a solution.

    I am for the restitution to the decedents of slaves in the US. Black decedents of slaves were denied the ability to accumulate wealth in the same way that white people were. In the US during the 1930 to the 1960, modest white bought houses that allowed them to create wealth and grow the wealth through the stock market and other capitalism ventures. In 1950’s you could by a house for $20,000, and sell it in 1990 for $200,000, then put the money in the stock market and poof become a millionaire.. Blacks were denied this simple ability to create wealth thru real estate. Not rocket science or hard core financial planning.

    Every descendant of slaves in the US should be given an interest free housing lone similar to the VA loans given to Vets after WW2., as well as free education to any university, to me this seems fair.

    Since the history of the British Empire’s criminality is vast, I find myself wondering whether our guilt-ridden revolutionary youngsters also feel responsible for the situation in Palestine? Are they going to push the British Government to put to an end to its ties with Israel until justice is restored in Palestine and the indigenous people of the land are invited to return to their villages and cities?

    Pick another more deserving group of people to champion, there are many throughout the world. The Palestinian cause is murky at best. The Palestinians have been the most coddled people on the planet. The entire world (and a dedicated UN agency) supports their every need. Vast amounts of money is handed over to a very corrupt leadership who are very wealthy and have no desire to help their people. The Palestinians are a cottage industry a cash cow of a select group of billionaires, like Arafat and Abbas, wealthy beyond belief from the world of Western tax payers. The Palestinians have been offered land and restitution over and over, only to deny it because what they really want is Jewish submission to Islam. Why not talk to King Hussein about the rights of the indigenous people in his country?

    I have told you many times your brand of politics lacks a real world viewpoint. You know very little about American History, and your view of the Palestinian problem has been denied by the left over and over. Guilt ridden youngsters in the UK are not worried nor do they much care about the Palestinians over their own problems. I believe they told you that Gilad and to get permanently lost with the last election and the Labor defeat. The resoundingly denounced the Palestinian cause.

  11. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Blacks were denied this simple ability to create wealth thru real estate.

    How?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Druid
  12. Exile says:

    Zionists and their allies in both the institutional Left & Right don’t care about double-standards. The questions of colonialism and slavery are simply propaganda cudgels to use against their opponents.

    Zionists will simply deploy Talmudry and pilpul – see Fran Taubman above.

    The only moral basis that the White majority populations in the West need is the same one the Palestinians have – because we live here.

    To the extent you spend any time “acknowledging” the “horrors” or “injustices” of colonialism and slavery, you are simply granting them legitimacy and moral sanction and diluting your own contemporary message.

    The “sins of the fathers to the X generation” is a Jewish concept (applied only to goyim in practice, of course). We owe no debt to history for what has gone on before and to the extent you even discuss it, much less accept this idea, you demoralize and demonize the just cause of anti-Zionism in the practical as well as principled sense.

    • Agree: Katrinka
  13. Exile says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Imagine a Jew calling another minority coddled and over-privileged.

    Imagine a Jew demanding that Americans pay reparations for 19th century slavery but denying any Zionist debt for the 100-years-more-recent displacement and ongoing genocide of Palestinians by Jews still living – b/c Talmudry & pilpul.

    Narcissism, special-pleading and genocidal disregard for other races topped off with shameless chutzpah. The true face of shapeshifting, fellow-whiting Judaism on display.

  14. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Amerimutt Golems

    Didn’t come across any African slaves or descendants in Iraq.

    Did see lots of slaves in Israel, NYC, London + City of, DC.

    I am sure you will support our movement to change
    the DC Yid museum of Horse Manure to one about Yid
    involvement in Black slavery and Indian destruction.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  15. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    You fake Jews are programmed by your Talmud and your rabbis to forever employ divide and rule, and shill for the Golden Calf. Your evil cult has a date with destiny. There can be no real repentance for sociopaths or reptiles because they can’t feel authentic sorrow or shame. Maybe they can fake it and pull the wool over people’s eyes for a few centuries, but it’s all borrowed time.

  16. @Anon

    How? Are you an American? Blacks were not allowed to by real estate in neighborhoods. They were denied mortgages, they had no financial ability to deal with banks. They were excluded in many ways from home ownership.

    • Replies: @RobbieSmith
    , @Sparrow
  17. I don’t believe in a whites-only tax for what their ancestors were implicated in. It would weld racism into the law.

    But I do believe in a Jews-only tax which would go a long way towards ending the modern slavery, real social injustice, of poor whites today and a host of other crimes against the whites and the blacks and help with our defence of society.

    Because it was, yes, their ancestors who were behind the slave trade, but they, their gang in general, are still engaged in an organized onslaught against blacks and whites.

    Spectacularly against the blacks, the descendants of the slaves, as the NOI Research articles here spectacularly show, but the Jewish onslaught against the whites is going strong, too, still.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  18. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Write your congressman and senators and propose that tax on Jews. The Jew only tax. Yeah that is going real far, and why you are such a hair brained idiot.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  19. @Fran Taubman

    Come again, Fran. Why exactly am I a hair brained idiot? Thick hair or fine hair?

    Instead of circling around the subject flinging names, help me to learn: let me have the specifics. Honest ones.

    Sorry, that makes it very hard for you, but please try.

  20. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Only you could write something like this Gilad, connecting hook nose Jews with David Irving in the same article. Hit all the Jew hatred boxes for a solid post comments. Irving = Holocaust = Holocaust denial the UR house specialty. Make sure you will not go home empty handed…’

    Poor Gilad. Between this and post #10 — not to mention my broadside — he obviously can’t win.

  21. @Fran Taubman

    ‘… I am for the restitution to the decedents of slaves in the US. Black decedents of slaves were denied the ability to accumulate wealth in the same way that white people were. In the US during the 1930 to the 1960, modest white bought houses that allowed them to create wealth and grow the wealth through the stock market and other capitalism ventures. In 1950’s you could by a house for $20,000, and sell it in 1990 for $200,000, then put the money in the stock market and poof become a millionaire.. Blacks were denied this simple ability to create wealth thru real estate. Not rocket science or hard core financial planning.

    Every descendant of slaves in the US should be given an interest free housing lone similar to the VA loans given to Vets after WW2., as well as free education to any university, to me this seems fair…’

    Sigh. Why bother?

  22. @Jake

    I’d like to know more about the English selling the Britons into slavery. I’d only ever heard of the rich grabbing the commons. Is there a book on the subject?

    But I don’t think you should say “Catholic Church” of the Henry VIII era as though there were categories of churches then or in Harry’s mind. The term is simply “Church”.

    Coming to your obsession, though, what reparations are due for the mass murder by the “Catholic” Church of Bible-believing Christians who had learned from it that Christ was the sole head of the Church and that He had said, “Call no man your father”? What does the “Catholic” Church owe the English for the execution of the Archbishop of Canterbury? And owe the Dutch for the mass slaughter of their ancestors?

    You poor child, learn more on the subject. Learn that the word “Catholic” as used by you as the brand-name of the Roman Papal hegemony actually means Satanic, asserts that Eastern Orthodox Christians are not Christians, when it is very much the aim of Satan to persuade them to think that.

    And why did the Mediaeval Church in Harry’s time have such massive real estate wealth, when Christ’s words were, “sell all you have and give to the poor”? The king, the government, was cracking down on corruption, wasn’t he?

    Poor little child, learn not to bring this subject up. Borrow a copy of the Bible and read it, read it.

    • Replies: @Mark1
  23. @Anon

    I hate to break it to you but some of my ancestors (the Scots-Irish part for sure) came over here in the 1700s or 1800s as Indentured Servants (because nearly all Scots-Irish came over that way…see former Senator Jim Webb’s book “Born Fighting” which is about the history of Americans of Scots-Irish descent such as himself). Therefore, since they were basically white slaves, I will pay reparations to nobody!

    But I did “bend over backwards” for blacks in my younger days in the 70s…until when I was leaving a store a black man nearly hits me with the door entering as I left, then called me “racist”….that was the end of my bending over backwards for blacks!!!

    Now if you want to pay reparations, go right ahead, but I do hope you are wise enough not to kiss their feet….

  24. @Fran Taubman

    “Blacks were not allowed to by real estate in neighborhoods. They were denied mortgages, they had no financial ability to deal with banks. They were excluded in many ways from home ownership.”

    Why couldn’t Blacks ever civilize in sub-Saharan Africa?

    Where have Blacks ever been successful?

  25. “Will these young White revolutionary spirits support, for instance, a bill that prevents White people (including their parents of course) from passing their wealth to their offspring so justice can be done and Black people can be compensated for centuries of racist abuse?”

    Slavery was the best thing to happen to Blacks, it was essentially a rescue mission by a free cruise. Being a slave was actually a good career move for a Black African — as it still would be today. An enslaved Black in any non-Black country has a higher standard of living than a free Black living among his own kind.

    After defeating George Foreman for the heavyweight boxing title in Zaire (now Congo), Muhammad Ali returned to the United States where he was asked by a reporter, “Champ, what did you think of Africa?” Ali replied, “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat.”

    Blacks are incapable of creating a civilization of their own. Blacks can only achieve because they have White admixture or because they reside in White societies. Everything Blacks have was given to them by Whites.

  26. @Jake

    “During the Great Famine, everything grew in Ireland but potatoes, and the English landowners kept shipping tons of food grown in Ireland both to England and the world market while millions of Irish suffered starvation, approximately a million a half dying. How much should England pay Ireland and the Irish for that horror of English insatiable greed and desire for genocide?”
    I’d accept the mass, televised seppuku of the existing English 0.01%. I’ll even offer myself as a “Second”.

  27. Druid says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t think Gilad supports it. I thinking he was ridiculing the idea of these reparations. I feel no guilt, I had nothing to do with it. Slavery was controlled by Jews from Roman times. It’s their thing. They were always the middle-men, often the actual thieves of children and people!

    • Agree: Gilad Atzmon
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  28. Druid says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I agree, the Jew slavers like Fran Tubman and her zio henchmen should pay the blacks. All the Jewish people and billionaires especially should be mega-taxed for this. Then they should pay for all the damage they’ve done in history, starting in ancient Iran to Murder of the last Visigoth king, leading to you jews helping the Muslims to conquer Spain and benefit mightily (financially and with power),the sabbath I Aviv debacle, French Revolution, communism, destruction of Germany and now the ongoing theft and destruction in the USA. Please Fran, you zio b it h, pay up! And get all of your shithouse co-religionists/ethnicity to pay as well. It will go a long way to healing!

    • Replies: @suicidal_canadian
  29. Druid says:
    @Anon

    Fran’s co-religionists screwed them, that’s how!

  30. @RobbieSmith

    Thanks for that Muhammad Ali quote. But he was speaking of his own good fortune as the consequence of his granddaddy getting on the boat. It’s not what his granddaddy, who led a very different life in slavery, said.

    I am hugely impressed by the high intelligence and great achievements of Louis Farrakhan. Definitely he and his like could create a civilization better than America’s of today.

  31. @Colin Wright

    Colin, in case you didn’t realise, I question this entire White guilt business … I attempt to verify how genuine it is,,, and by all means turn these questions around and dig into Jewish privilege as this is what I am about to do next,,,

  32. @Fran Taubman

    Stick to your guns Fran because the next question we need to ask is how do you deal with Jewish privilege/guilt… Where do you want me start? Deterenomy (genocide) ? or may be inventing a god who loves you in particular (supremacy) ,,,Jesus plight (Killing God) ? Do you really want to talk about slavery? should we elaborate on Tony Martin’s Onslaught? Or maybe Palestine, or Neocons wars? Just tell me where to start so i could take into consideration your unique sensitivities,,

    I wouldn’t blame you for any of that,,, as I do not make generalisations ….. but if you are innocent until proved guilty, don\t you think we should apply the same rule to everyone else?

  33. “I am hugely impressed by the high intelligence and great achievements of Louis Farrakhan. Definitely he and his like could create a civilization better than America’s of today.”

    LOL

    Where have Blacks ever civilized?

    The fact is, no pre-contact Black society ever created a written language, or weaved cloth, or forged steel, or invented the wheel, or plow, or devised a calendar, or code of laws, or system of measurement, or math, or built a multi-story structure, or sewer, or drilled a well, or irrigated, or created any agriculture, or built a road, or sea-worthy vessel. They never domesticated animals, or exploited underground natural resources, or produced anything that could be considered a mechanical device.

    Blacks were still living in the Stone Age when Whites discovered them just 400 years ago.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  34. @anon

    That’s because Negro slaves in Iraq, Turkey, etc., were neutered and turned into eunuchs for guarding harems. They therefore have no descendants there.

    • Replies: @anon
  35. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Can’t remember why I replied above but I have learned something.

    Thanks to both of you.

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Zanj-rebellion

    https://www.medievalists.net/2019/02/zanj-revolt-slave-war-medieval-iraq/

    https://face2faceafrica.com/article/the-zanj-rebellion-of-east-african-slaves-transported-to-iraq-in-the-9th-century

    https://read.dukeupress.edu/cssaame/article-abstract/38/2/246/135739/The-Zanj-Rebellion-and-the-Transition-from?redirectedFrom=fulltext

    Slavery is not a fixed condition but a spectrum of unfreedom. The term Islamic slavery has been bandied about for four decades without an adequate definition. At the birth of Islam there were a large number of captives from endemic intertribal warfare, many of them Arabs who were often exchanged or ransomed. When the original Islamic state in Medina expanded to become dynastic Muslim empires that conquered large parts of the Byzantine and Persian empires, the ethical principles in the Quran and the hadiths regarding the treatment of captives were no longer adequate to deal with the new situation. They had to be reduced to enforceable laws by the various sharia schools. The empires inherited the Mesopotamian plains, which required irrigation on a large scale based on massive slave labor. Commercially acquired slaves became the norm, and large concentrations of imported slaves from Africa and elsewhere living under harsh conditions ultimately led to the Zanj Revolution. It threatened even the survival of the Abbasid dynasty, and led to the abandonment of plantation use of slaves.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  36. @Druid

    ‘I don’t think Gilad supports it. I thinking he was ridiculing the idea of these reparations. I feel no guilt, I had nothing to do with it. Slavery was controlled by Jews from Roman times. It’s their thing. They were always the middle-men, often the actual thieves of children and people!’

    I think this accepts the first of the false propositions that make up this nonsense.

    So what if blacks were enslaved? At the time, slavery was not a crime.

    We might as well demand reparations from the descendants of craftsmen who beat their apprentices, or those whose ancestors were people who used to go to badger baitings.

    Of course the errors in all this hardly end there — but that’s where they start.

    • Replies: @RobbieSmith
  37. @anon

    ‘…In September 869, ʿAlī ibn Muḥammad, a Persian claiming descent from ʿAlī, the fourth caliph, and Fāṭimah, Muḥammad’s daughter, gained the support of several slave-work crews—which could number from 500 to 5,000 men—by pointing out the injustice of their social position and promising them freedom and wealth…’

    Ring a bell?

    But there is hope. The slave revolt was crushed in the end.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. @Colin Wright

    And again.

    ‘…The terrible living conditions and the cruelty of the overseers definitely caused a great deal of discontent and rebelliousness among the Zanj. However, it was the religion of their masters that pushed them over the edge. Through their contacts with Muslims in Iraq many of the slaves started to learn about Islam and converted to the religion. Some of the earliest adherents of Islam and the prophet Muhammad had been the slaves and the downtrodden of Meccan society due to the promise of justice, equality, and brotherhood for all who embraced the religion. In fact, one of the earliest sects of Islam, Kharijism, taught that even the lowliest of slaves could become the leader of their community based on his piety and merit…’

    Blacks are a tabula rasa. Tell them to work and do as they’re told, and they’ll work and do as they’re told. Tell them they should be unhappy and revolt, and they will be unhappy and revolt.

    …so stop telling them to be unhappy and revolt. I don’t really blame blacks for any of this horseshit — if they’re encouraged to act this way, they will. I blame those who encourage them.
    .

    • Replies: @Fuerchtegott
  39. Sparrow says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran you are so NARROW MINDED adding to many other things. Maybe you should list the places where blacks could not buy a home. And while you’re at it please list ALL OF THE DESCENDANTS of slaves who were GIVEN LAND etc by their MASTERS to have and to hold. PLEASE LIST WHAT YOU CLAIM or you’re just another jew mouth FORGETTING the untold extortion to this day that goes on in NY from JEW SLUM LORDS toward blacks. YES FRAN DIDN’T YOU KNOW THAT? Also you have an absent mind on the black American goal to RETURN TO AFRICA in particular GHANA. YES FRAN, GHANA ALSO MAKES SURE THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL AND CAN BE A POSITIVE PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY!!!! Imagine Fran the endless possibilities for happiness never having to AGAIN AND AGAIN REGURGITATE THEIR VICTIMIZATION PAID FOR BY JEWS LIKE YOU. Here is just one example of many videos encouraging American blacks to immigrate….WHAT NO WELFARE IN GHANA ?…SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!
    Check out the BIG DIFFERENCE of the humble people of Ghana compared to these POOR AMERICANS….LOL

    BTW…maybe you can also provide testimonies of the Ethiopian’s brought back to Israel for so-called JEWISH ALIYAH. Protests? LOL

    • Replies: @Sparrow
  40. Sparrow says:
    @Sparrow

    …and we must not forget that the slave trade was most profitable for the black kings who sold their own people. BUT IT’S SO CONVENIENT TO LEAVE THAT IMPORTANT ASPECT OUT.

  41. @Colin Wright

    Can’t u just tell them they are very welcome in Ghana?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  42. @RobbieSmith

    ‘LOL

    Where have Blacks ever civilized?

    The fact is, no pre-contact Black society ever created a written language, or weaved cloth, or forged steel, or invented the wheel…’

    Mostly right, and in general, I heartily agree.

    But many groups of black Africans herd cattle and farm. What’s your basis for claiming they didn’t start doing this on their own?

    • Replies: @RobbieSmith
  43. @Fuerchtegott

    ‘Can’t u just tell them they are very welcome in Ghana?’

    ‘Back to Africa’ actually is a component of the closest thing to a workable and yet humane solution to our black problem I’ve been able to come up with.

    Part (a) is a return to an improved version of the Jim Crow/’separate but equal’ regime that obtained in the South from about 1900 to ca. 1940.

    Part (b) would be for any black who doesn’t like it. A paid plane ticket and residency permit to any black African country that will sell such rights for a reasonable sum. All paid for by us white folks.

    As reparations.

    I’m tired of the results of attempting to treat blacks as equals/make them into the same. It more or less works with everybody else. It doesn’t work with blacks. We’ve done our darnedest for nearly sixty years now. The results are as we see.

  44. @Colin Wright

    “Mostly right…”

    What was not right?

    “But many groups of black Africans herd cattle and farm.”

    Source?

  45. @Colin Wright

    “So what if blacks were enslaved?”

    Slavery was the best thing to happen to Blacks, it was essentially a rescue mission by a free cruise. Being a slave was actually a good career move for a Black African — as it still would be today. An enslaved Black in any non-Black country has a higher standard of living than a free Black living among his own kind.

    “We might as well demand reparations…”

    Blacks owe Whites reparations for all the damage they do to our civilizations.

    Reparations for repatriations to Africa!

  46. “Except for Indigenous Americans. But nobody is talking about returning the land to them…”

    Wait. “Return” what land to them?

    What exactly did the people living on the continent where the European explorers landed own?

  47. @RobbieSmith

    essentially a rescue mission by a free cruise

    Prior to the middle of the 18th century, about 20% of slaves on these ‘free cruises’ died during the voyage. After about 1750, a range of technological innovations (coppering of hulls; purpose-designed ships; improved disease prevention) interacted to reduce the toll, but it remained above 10% as the Atlantic slave trade petered out under increased interception from the British Navy.

    So yeah… just like a cruise ship where 1 in 5 passengers dies in chains below deck, jammed together cheek by jowl in their and others’ filth.

    It’s not clear to me what purpose is served by attempting to minimise the inhumanity of the Middle Passage: it just makes those who do so seem both staggeringly ignorant, and unhinged. (It’s several orders of magnitude less forgivable than holocaust denial, because there’s such abundant non-partisan documentary evidence for the horrors of the Middle Passage – including largely-intact wrecks of slave ships).

  48. “It’s not clear to me what purpose is served by attempting to minimise the inhumanity of the Middle Passage…”

    Are Blacks as human as modern man?

    What would their existence have been living among their own kind?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  49. @Kratoklastes

    ‘Prior to the middle of the 18th century, about 20% of slaves on these ‘free cruises’ died during the voyage. After about 1750, a range of technological innovations (coppering of hulls; purpose-designed ships; improved disease prevention) interacted to reduce the toll, but it remained above 10% as the Atlantic slave trade petered out under increased interception from the British Navy…’

    But what was the rate of fatality for the (more or less) voluntary white emigrants?

    Then too, what would the prospects for those blacks sent to to the New World have been had they remained in Africa? Many would have been captives anyway — and captives slated for that fall’s big harvest human sacrifice and hootenany.

    Things were tough all over back then. Why should we obsess about the fate of this one group in particular — most of whom (a) lived, and (b) found themselves better off than they would have been had they not been purchased by white slavers.

    I mean seriously. We’ve got dispossessed Highland crofters starving in hovels overlooking the Atlantic, American Indian tribes being ravaged by smallpox, Uighers being exterminated in some Ch’ing Dynasty ‘kill all’ campaign, probably some of your ancestors dying under the knout as serfs in Eastern Europe, etc, etc — why are we showing such solicitude for the awful, awful fate visited on some of the distant ancestors of some Americans in particular?

    …and how does that confer on them a license to loot and attack people? Very bad things have happened to not my remote ancestors but to me personally. Where’s my ticket to kill four and rape two?

    No? I don’t get one? That’s odd.

    Some sort of inconsistency here. Explain it to me.

    You know what? They can get fucked.

    • Replies: @lloyd
  50. @Kratoklastes

    ‘…It’s not clear to me what purpose is served by attempting to minimise the inhumanity of the Middle Passage: it just makes those who do so seem both staggeringly ignorant, and unhinged…’

    You know, that you actually think you’ve just advanced an impressive argument yourself isn’t super impressive.

  51. lloyd says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    By the standards of long sea voyages in steerage in 18th century, those mortality statistics are not very high. I would cautiously suggest they were lower than for the white crews. The white sailors who signed up or were press ganged into these long voyages were almost signing their death warrants. After completing their voyages they were paid off and walked off their ship. The slaves had to be in sufficiently good condition to fetch a good price.

  52. @Jake

    You wouldn’t know history if you stepped in it.

  53. @Druid

    Don’t forget perpetual war that the Empire of Zion has waged upon the world using the Amerimutt golem slave state: Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Serbia, Korea, Japan,Germany, etc. And, the endess color revolutions: Ukraine, Arab Spring, and right now the BLM Antifa insurgency in America.

  54. Bill H says:

    The left babble becomes more and more incoherent, but as I currently decipher it the initial plan was to take all the money from rich people (of all “identities:” black, white, male, female, whatever) and give it to the government. The government would then presumably do something good with that money, but the “income inequality” crowd didn’t seem to really care what got done with it as long as it was taken away from rich people.

    Now the plan is a bit more direct because “identity politics” has replaced “income inequality.” Now the plan is to take all the money from rich people (of all “identities:” black, white, male, female, whatever) and give it to black people. So far Hispanics seem to be okay with this idea, but I’m wondering how long that will last.

  55. Bas says:

    Best slaves. How they selected. Europeans ranks number one. Expensive but rewarding. World war one did prove it. On a whistle sound, together, they died for country and king.
    Refusing had the same result. Before, peace time, same thing. Number two came from Asia.
    Sought after and cheaper. The bottom line and used for exclusive manual labor, the African.
    Anyone having today a job is the modern slave. All, without exception, pray for the day to be free. The tool that chain them, money, is the hoped key to set them free. For most retirement, useless, is the future.

  56. Erasing the History of Slavery and Colonial Abuse

    OK.

    Part 1 Slavery: Repatriation to their homelands to be reunited with their long lost cousins, like Mugabe and General Butt Naked.

    Part 2 Colonialism: Special Army Engineer “Eraser Brigades” will demolish all power plants, water treatment plants, hospitals, roads, factories, schools etc.

    It’s only fair that we undo the damage we caused.

    • Agree: RobbieSmith
    • LOL: trickster
    • Replies: @RobbieSmith
  57. @Hippopotamusdrome

    “It’s only fair that we undo the damage we caused.”

    Sub-Saharan Africans never made a single contribution to the world.

    Everything Blacks have was given to them by Whites.

    • Replies: @anon
  58. jsigur says:

    The only group to actually benefit from slavery were the families of elite Jews and elite goyim.
    I would say let them pay for any debts owed on that score.
    The average white man was never given a vote to considering the bi-products of colonialism and slavery. In many ways it was an inconvenience for the average man who had to compete with free slave labor for employment and were forced to adopt hostile segregationist attitudes towards the black race to assure those same elites that the two wouldn’t rise up together and remove them from power.
    That job was done so well that the elites, to sow more animosity, now expects everyone to drop those entrenched attitudes over a few election cycles while blaming every-man for its existence while also denying the racial pride natural for these groups similar to the elitist pride the rich have for themselves as a group and a history

    • Replies: @RobbieSmith
  59. @jsigur

    “The only group to actually benefit from slavery were the families of elite Jews and elite goyim.”

    Of course the Black slaves also benefited. Being a slave was actually a good career move for a Black African — as it still would be today. An enslaved Black in any non-Black country has a higher standard of living than a free Black living among his own kind.

  60. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @RobbieSmith

    Not to disagree
    but
    what exactly did Sub-Saharan Africans need that Whites gave?
    Food? Clothing? Water? Air? Space to walk? Sex? Humor? Friends?

    Whites have given to Whites: Communism, Planned Parenthood,
    rigged elections, transferring money to Wall St Pigs, vaccines for death,
    spying/no privacy/no freedoms.

    Just to name a few blessings from Whites to Whites.

    Forgot –

    shit music, shit movies, shit “news” (eg Chit Not News).

  61. trickster says:

    I am no historian but when I look back at the past all I see is hypocrisy, exploitation, slavery, lies, thievery, murder, mass slaughter and so forth. Just mentioning a few of man’s noblest traits. Anyone who believes that the world is suddenly going to come to Jesus must be a chronic glue sniffer.

    Slavery cannot be erased. It is still practiced today in Africa and of course in an even more insidious way in industrialised countries. What is the difference between:

    A. A slave who works for nothing and has nothing
    B. A worker earning a wage, enticed to buy everything he sees, thus has nothing and to boot even debt

    Blacks go on and on about slavery and reparations but there are blacks in Africa who can clearly trace their ancestry to the slave traders and tribal chiefs who sold off the brothers to whitey. Will they and all the Arab middlemen stump up some coin for the brothers in the west ? I dont think so. As a matter of fact I dont think they really give a shit one way or the other. Further has the cracker not ALREADY paid reparations to the black man. Lets jog the memory here…ah lets see…food stamps, Section 8 housing, welfare, affirmative action and so on ? Does anyone believe that if the black man gains ascendancy he will say “Dear me, in all conscience my forebears used to be slaves and I could never do something like that to others!”. Slavery existed from the time cave man realized he could kick back, get someone else to do the job or have their brains bashed in, service the captive women thus increasing his regiments and denying the enemies his and more importantly getting it all with no outlay and an increase in his possessions. Which man or nation in history, since that time has ever refused such a deal ? And who in the future will given half the chance ? Erasing slavery is out. The Trickster for one objects to handing over his treasure to a black man or any other man for any reason just or unjust. I, like most whites and all other sensible people worked long hard hours and made many sacrifices to accumulate our coin. The black man can do the same if he abandons the street corner, educates himself, works hard and acts responsibly toward his family and society. There is no secret to success !

    As for colonial abuse this again seems subject to interpretation and definition. Are countries previously subject to colonial rule any better off 50 + years after the Europena powers turned them over to Chief Mandingo ? People like Sese Seko, Mugabe, Amin and Zuma lived and live lives the colonial governors could never dream of and lives rivalling that of European royalty and the Hollywood elite. While they tool around in $5K tailor made English suits, lick uo the most delectablel dishes washed down with the finest beverages and put their feet up in the latest Rolls, their subjects have to be content with one pair of rags, catching a minibus, filthy drinking water and starvation. Colonial “abuse” has been replaced with black on black abuse. The colonial office may be displeased with Sir Robert Snodgrass and recall him from Africa. Anyone in post colonial Dinkaland who is dissatisfied with President Mbongo and thinks of “recalling” him better prepare himself, family, community and all other tribal members for the afterlife.

    There are a lot of problems solved by a lonely grave in some desolate African savannah. Having lived in Africa, one man told me the political rivals of one individual had a habit of disappearing completely. Any detective who wanted to solve the riddle of these disappearances needed to go to a certain river and examine the shit of the crocodiles that lived there, he told me sarcastically. “In fact” he continued “the goon squad slipped up once or twice in that the crocs gorged on so many fucking rivals that they could eat no more and scorned any additional tidbits tossed to them”. Colonial abuse ?? LOL

    As for the Palestinians, sad as their plight may be, they are like so many races before them and so many who will follow them, in the wrong place at the wrong time. One can argue about right and wrong, just and unjust but among pragmatic men this is all rubbish. The philosophy is do unto others before they do onto you and honesty is the worst policy. The game is “what do you have to give and what do I have to take!” The man who is not strong enough to protect what he has is doomed to victim hood and being someone’s bitch. Poor Palestinians, they must fight for themselves, nobody is going to give it to them in the name of righteousness, not even their own blood brothers.

    The youngsters today are a bunch of University educated bubble brains and equally stupid faces who mouth the nonsense of the moment that somehow come into their empty heads. Shit in = shit out ! They somehow think they are revolutionaries, that their thought is original and the world will be a utopia once they vanquish the “wicked” and prevail in their struggle. Hail the spoilt, entitled, privileged and misguided teens and twenty year olds who will lead us into this brave new world, this bright future.

    The world is an evil place because men are inherently evil. We can wish it was not so but it always was, is and forever will be because that is man’s nature and the man who swims against this current must either be saint living the hermit life in a desert cave or a complete idiot.

    • Replies: @anon
  62. Excellent points, Gilad. The notion that reparations ought to be paid by white people who have never had black slaves to black people that never were slaves is an outrageous demand, and for all practical purposes would be the enslavement of present day white people to present day black people, and would be a return to slavery, and black people advocating for and demanding for their enslavement of white people to them, to be legalized in congress and the courts.

    Slavery is wrong and evil.

  63. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @trickster

    Either a Yid mouthing or near-term suicide.

    • Replies: @trickster
  64. trickster says:
    @anon

    First of all you dont even have the ingenuity or the balls to choose a handle. You are one of those heroes who hides in the shadows being a slimy troll. In school I posit you used to stand at the back of the crowd shouting because being feminine is what you are and what you do and what you look like.

    Second, here on Unz, the intelligent among us are looking for:
    a.) Comments
    b) Intelligence

    Yours is neither ! You are like the scumbags rioting all over the US. They talk trash and wonder why no one understands what comes out of their empty heads

    Third, is “Yid” all you got ? Why are you obsessed with “Yids” and what is this comment of yours about “near term suicide” Since you dont know me this must be a thought that circles around in YOUR head. Is that what you are contemplating ? Because let me tell you the world would be a better place without a smelly douche like you.

    And this “Yid” obsession. You like the ones that wear curls and a black hat ? I am sure you are one of those queer grandpas who frequent gay gym showers so they could ogle the tools of the other boys there. I bet you love to look in the mirror and see one of those Yids coming up behind you. Then like the good sailor you are he shouts at you “adopt the position and spread them” and you comply obediently. He probably disrespects you to boot, not even a dab of vaseline for you !

    You should spend more time at the Gym. It would be better for you and a more productive use of your time. We want to inform ourselves here and all you contribute to the discussion is stupidity, ignorance and idiocy.

    Head out to the gym Granpa ! LOL

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