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Those who follow my work are probably familiar with the idea that there is no modern Hebrew word for peace (meaning harmony and reconciliation). The Hebrew Word Shalom (שלום) is interpreted in modern Hebrew as ‘security for the Jews.’ In Israel the reference to ‘shalom negotiation’ is construed as a premeditated set of conditions that guarantees ‘security’ for Jewish Israelis by means of: secure borders, disarmament of the Arabs, an American commitment to supplying arms to Israel, economic expansion and so on.

It would be unreasonable to expect a culture that lacks a lucid notion of peace and reconciliation to lead the region towards harmony and human brotherhood. The truth of the matter is that even in the delusional heydays of the Oslo Accord, when some were foolish enough to believe that peace was about to prevail, the so-called peace enthusiasts amongst the Israeli decision makers (Shimon Peres & co) advocated the phantasy of a “New Middle East,’ a vision of a regional new order: an economic cooperation with the Jewish State at its very centre. The ‘dream’ of a ‘new Middle East’ entailed a coalition of so called ‘democratic states’ defying ‘Khomeinism’ by means of Western orientation and hard capitalism. Though the globalist agenda was clear to Shimon Peres, the one ingredient he managed to skip was the Palestinians and their prospects of returning to their land, orchards, fields, villages and cities.

Shalom in its contemporary Hebrew meaning, is a judeo-centric concept that is blind to otherness.

The recent conflict in occupied Palestine (especially the clashes in Israeli/Palestinian mixed cities) brings to light another crucial concept that has been lost in translation into modern Hebrew.

Often enough we hear from Israelis officials and Hasbara spokespersons about ‘Israeli/Arab coexistence.’ Yet, bizarrely enough, there is no Hebrew word for coexistence. While the English concept of coexistence refers to an harmonious and peaceful existence of two entities or more, the Hebrew word for coexistence is du ki-yum (דו קיום ). Du ki-yum literally translates as twofold – existence, it refers to two entities that live side by side. Du ki-yum sustains the differentiation and particularity of its elements. In du ki-yum the elements stay apart, separated or even segregated. The notion of du ki-yum practically sustains the binary distinction between the ‘Jew’ and the ‘Goy.’ While coexistence is a synonym for harmony, togetherness and assimilation, du ki-yum, defies the possibility of human brotherhood. It points at success in ‘conflict management,’ presenting a prospect of living ‘alongside’ rather than ‘together’.

I guess that at this point no one will be surprised to find out that there is no word in Hebrew for harmony either. The first Israelis, who worked day and night to revive their biblical language and rename every possible Latin and Greek concept, didn’t bother to find a Hebrew word for harmony. When Israelis refer to harmony they deploy the Latin word harmonia (הרמוניה).

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When we attempt to delve into the prospect of peace in the region, we may have to accept that a culture lacking notions of peace, harmony and coexistence may not be able to lead the region towards harmonious and peaceful coexistence. If peace ever prevails between the river and the sea, it is because Israel has surrendered to accepting its meaning.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Well one also has to realize they also use the word bless to mean both bless and curse. So if they say “God bless you” they could mean “God curse you.” A people with a language like this can never be honest.

    • Replies: @Rahan
    , @Ace
    , @Fr. John
  2. Thanks,

    You’ve just convinced me that the Zionists’ dreams in the Middle East are just pipe dreams.

    I can now explain many historical and personal events that I could not understand because I was interpreting them using WRONG cultural tools.

  3. Notsofast says:

    yair lapid is trying to create a coalition of divergent political parties in order to oust netanyahu. i’ll believe it when i see it but if he is successful this is surefire proof of their military failure and acknowledgement of iran and hezbollahs abilities to overwhelm their iron dome and patriot missile systems. this would lead israeli back to the negotiating table, attempting to resurrect a two state solution. they most likely will try to drag their feet in endless, fruitless talks and three card monte dealings in order to buy time to shore up their military position. however i don’t think the palestinians and the axis of resistance will buy into it this time.

  4. Pheasant says:

    ‘I guess that at this point no one will be surprised to find out that there is no word in Hebrew for harmony either. The first Israelis, who worked day and night to revive their biblical language and rename every possible Latin and Greek concept, didn’t bother to find a Hebrew word for harmony. When Israelis refer to harmony they deploy the Latin word harmonia (הרמוניה).’

    Is this true?

    Incredible insight into the Jewish mind if so.

  5. Thanks! Now I know the loud response to “Shalom (שלום)”:
    “Yes! ‘Security for the Jews!’

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  6. BorisMay says:

    So how does one Jewish sub group live with another where the ideological differences are such that the philosophy of one contradicts another and yet both groups are encouraged to live in the same locality: eg a pacifist Orthodox group versus a fascist Ashkenazi like Netanyahu and his followers?

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  7. nickels says:

    bet there’s a word for money.

  8. “Often enough we hear from Israelis officials and Hasbara spokespersons about ‘Israeli/Arab coexistence.’ Yet, bizarrely enough, there is no Hebrew word for coexistence.”

    Nor is there any provision for coexistence in the Old Testament.

    “Deuteronomy is to formal Judaism and Zionism, what the Communist Manifesto was to the [Russian Revolution.] It is the basis of the Torah (‘the Law’) … which forms the raw material of the Talmud… Therefore Deuteronomy is also the basis of the political program, of worldly dominion over nations despoiled and enslaved, which largely has been realized in the West during this Twentieth Century…. Religious intolerance is the basis of this ‘Second Law’ … and murder in the name of religion is its distinctive tenet. This necessitates the destruction of the moral Commandments, which …are set up to be knocked down. Only those which relate to the exclusive worship of the ‘jealous’ Jehovah are left intact. The others are buried beneath a great mound of “statutes and judgments” [i.e. the Talmud]…which in effect cancel them.”

    Deuteronomy – Blueprint for NWO?
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/09/deuteron-Blueprint-of-the-New-World-Order.html

  9. @BorisMay

    To start with they do not live in peace at all. Look at Israel, it is imploding. The only thing that unites the Jews is an enemy, an Amalek/Hitler figure. The great philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz said in the 1970s, Jews believe in many (contradicting) things but they all believe in the Holocaust. In abstract terms it is the fear of so called ‘anti semitism’ that unites the Jews ,hence, it must be sustained by different means

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  10. @nickels

    LOL , money is covered …. they also don’t have hebrew names for Humus and Falafel.

  11. Rahan says:
    @RabbiSemantics

    Well one also has to realize they also use the word bless to mean both bless and curse.

    The most potent of today’s semi-hidden undercurrent of “hypno porn” that produces 10 000 fold rises in “transgender self-identification” in a mere couple of years, used to be called “hypnotic curses”, but lately have been presenting themselves as “hypnotic blessings”.

    (“bbc-lust-curse” and yet “bimbo-blessing”)

    So this fluid shift from “blessing” to “curse” and back, concerning the same dopamine-addiction subliminal-rewiring porn product, is a bit of a giveaway. Combined with almost all of this genre being “white boys must become girls/cucks and submit to blacks.”

    (“hypnotic-white-boy-humiliation-bbc-compilation”; “you-crave-bbc-brainwashing-by-bnwo-academy” and thousands of similar titles)

    Not that we really need more evidence, but let’s say “giveaway number five million thirty thousand and five”.

    Also, keeping in mind that when it’s not robot voices, it’s real women doing the brainwashing, an Andrew Anglin would use the opportunity to remind readers that no takeover can happen so thoroughly and quickly with a huge class of “traitor women”.

    • Replies: @Tom Marvolo Riddle
  12. Bizarrely enough, there is no English word for harmony. The English speakers deploy instead a word derived from the Greek (not Latin!) Ἁρμονία.

    Reminds me a joke told once upon a time about George Busch Jr who reportedly said – The French have no idea about business. They don’t even have a word for entrepreneur.

    • Agree: raga10
  13. @nickels

    As many as there are Eskimo words for snow.

  14. Thanks for these enlightening observations. Quite apt indeed, but they also fit into the venerable Jewish tradition of discussing the true meaning of words, as is natural for people that pretend to live according to the rules laid down in some holy text.

    I suppose there is some sort of analogy with the cliché that Eskimos have twenty or so words for “snow.” Yet also Negroes living near the Kilimanjaro must know what snow is, although their language may not have a special word for it. Hence on that account, the absence of a true word for “Peace” in Hebrew is no proof that Jews don’t know what Peace means. Given their talent for acquiring other languages, it is through those that the meaning must be known to them.

    The Romans, who allegedly were at least as aggressive and warlike as modern Israelis, used the word Pax for war. On a very elementary level, pax not only means the opposite of bellum, war, but also the absence of organized (state) violence during conflict.

    But there was another side to it. The so-called pax romana, “Roman Peace” is considered to denote the blissful, harmonious situation that we know so well from Hollywood movies, history classes and our Latin teachers. After all, Pax meant that people could go about their daily business unmolested, and protected by law, maintained by the police and courts of law, and paid for by their taxes.

    As is so often the case, the catch is in the adjective. For the people subjected by Rome, pax, or pax romana meant being subjected to continuous abuse, arbitrariness, violence, molestation, not unlike what Palestinians experience from Israelis. For those living under the Roman caliga, pax romana actually meant bellum romanum, because for them, the word peace was equivalent to the word war.

    For those living under the Israeli boot, the feeling must be the same as for the poor Celtic tribes subjected by Caesar.

    • Replies: @Ace
  15. Sirius says:

    In Arabic the word for harmony is “insijam”. It kind of means to get along or to find commonality as well. I’ve understood that many Hebrew words are back formations from Arabic. Could not Hebrew just borrow the root from Arabic, as it did for many colloquialisms? Or is the implication here that no one found any need to coin a word for harmony because it’s not really a concept for the Jews who conquered Palestine?

  16. Stogumber says:

    Generally Hebrew authors didn’t invest much into precise distinctions, unlike Greek philosophers. Interestingly, this is the reason why modern Protestant theologians prefer Hebrew to Greek: demand for accuracy makes them uncomfortable.

    • Replies: @RogerL
  17. Ace says:
    @RabbiSemantics

    Then there are people who speak of the “rules-based international order,” “tolerance,” “fairness,” “our democracy,” “diversity,” “climate change,” “interstate commerce,” “comprehensive immigration law reform,” “undocumented immigrants,” “multiculturalism,” “incitement,” “insurrection,” and “regular elections.”

    Orwell said all that needed to be said about political language. Well, not quite. Confucius said it in a few words when he spoke of the need for rectification of names. The linked article quotes Socrates’s thought that “inaccurate language is not only itself a mistake; it implants evil in men’s souls.”

    Consider the simple matter of the oath of office required of all officials in the U.S. The constitution that our highest officials swear to protect and defend bears no relation to the actual Constitution. None whatsoever. So there you have it. The highest officials have no lode star and drift like kelp in the current of human irrationality, greed, and hunger for power.

    You and Mr. Atzmon raise a fascinating point. If there is anything truly diseased about the Western world it’s political and social language. Wokeism and critical race theory are lies in the supernova class and, as the man said, they implant evil in men’s souls.

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  18. Fr. John says:
    @RabbiSemantics

    The mere fact that the Hebrew Language does not belong to the Khazarian Imposters, and was noted back in 1982, when Jewish author Yahuda, had his book, ‘Hebrew is Greek’ printed…..

    says volumes. At every stage, those who ‘say they are Jews, and are not’ [ Revelation]

    LIE.

    Because St. John’s Gospel, Chapter 8, v. 44 “Ye are of (out of, descendants of ) your father, the Devil… and the deeds of YOUR FATHER, ye will do.” – J.C.

  19. Zimriel says:

    Yoram Hazony (who is Zionist) would agree with your analysis of דו קיום. He says all nations would be better off if they followed the Westphalia model, of mutual but separate coexistence.
    Assimilation is a lie, and the Israelis are better people for accepting that.

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  20. Ace says:
    @Hans Vogel

    That word exercise seems a little convoluted. No sarcasm intended. From my limited reading about Roman England I got the impression that there was considerable Roman cultural influence on the locals. Initially, the Iceni didn’t fare well after Boudica objected to being dispossessed and whipped naked in public for some reason and wiped out molto thousands of Romans. It’s true. But many a Celt adopted Roman ways and were unhappy when the Romans departed in the fifth century.

    So I’d say pax meant what it denotes. Wales and Scotland remained Injun country I suppose so there’s that. Nowadays, you could say that about London but I digress.

  21. Ace says:
    @Zimriel

    One hundred percent agreement here. All the more galling is the Jewish obsession with open borders for Western nations so that, in Barbara Lerner Spectre’s memorable words, they become “less monolithic” thanks to the “leading role” of Jews in that. Not quite sure what she means by “monolithic” though. It’s a puzzle.

    Now there is a woman who gave new meaning to the word “dissembler.” Fascinating body language there. God bless her for that brief moment of Jewish honesty. I’ll leave it to the hasbara to explain that she is not truly representative and represents only a certain obscure faction of the Jewish community known as the [fill in the blank]. I do know there are many patriotic Jews but I just don’t think the burden is on non-Jews to parse all the dogma of this or that school of Judaism so we can know who these tiny minorities of Jews are who seek the destruction of their host countries.

  22. Chris Moore says: • Website

    It would be unreasonable to expect a culture that lacks a lucid notion of peace and reconciliation to lead the region towards harmony and human brotherhood.

    A culture or a religion? Because culture flows from religion, not the other way around. The problem is the Jewish religion, which sets itself up as the “Chosen” and goes to war (hot and cold) against all others, by doctrine. That’s what being a Jew means. If it’s not at war, it’s not a Jew.

    WW2 was a triumph for Jewry and its sick and corrupt stooges over Christianity and the West, and a triumph of Anglo-American “Judeo-Christianity” (Zionism) over Europe. But because Jews are Jews, they can never rest on their laurels, and like sharks, must keep moving forward or die.

    Sharks belong in the deep, not swimming among the public, led alone leading it into shark infested waters.

    The truth of the matter is that even in the delusional heydays of the Oslo Accord, when some were foolish enough to believe that peace was about to prevail, the so-called peace enthusiasts amongst the Israeli decision makers (Shimon Peres & co) advocated the phantasy of a “New Middle East,’ a vision of a regional new order: an economic cooperation with the Jewish State at its very centre. The ‘dream’ of a ‘new Middle East’ entailed a coalition of so called ‘democratic states’ defying ‘Khomeinism’ by means of Western orientation and hard capitalism. Though the globalist agenda was clear to Shimon Peres, the one ingredient he managed to skip was the Palestinians and their prospects of returning to their land, orchards, fields, villages and cities.

    What makes you think the shark would be satisfied consuming Iran? Was it satisfied consuming Iraq and Libya?

    The problem is Jewishness. Always was, always will be. It belongs at the bottom of the sea with other primordial creatures.

  23. WordSmith says:

    Not that it matters much, but the word harmonia is one of the 4621 words that classical latin actually borrowed from Ancient Greek: ἁρμονία became harmonia. here.

    PS: I do appreciate Gilad’s subtlety in sayng “When Israelis refer to harmony they deploy the Latin word harmonia”. 😉

  24. @Zimriel

    Israelis reject not just assimilation but mutual co-existence as well.

  25. anon[229] • Disclaimer says:

    The Hebrew Word Shalom (שלום) is interpreted in modern Hebrew as ‘security for the Jews.’ In Israel the reference to ‘shalom negotiation’ is construed as a premeditated set of conditions that guarantees ‘security’ for Jewish Israelis by means of: secure borders, disarmament of the Arabs, an American commitment to supplying arms to Israel, economic expansion and so on.

    Yeah, no:

    The True Meaning of ‘Shalom’ (Submit or Die!)


    Video Link

  26. anon[334] • Disclaimer says:

    The nations of the world will be slaves to Israel:

    Babylonian Talmud – Mas. Eiruvin 43b.6
    https://www.sefaria.org/Eruvin.43b.6?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en

    The Gemara comments: It might enter your mind to say that since Elijah will not come on Shabbat eve due to the trouble involved, the Messiah will also not come then, and if so, on Shabbat eve he should also be permitted to drink wine. However, this reasoning is rejected: It is only Elijah who will not arrive on Shabbat eve, but the Messiah himself may arrive, for once the Messiah comes, all the nations will be subservient (1) to the Jewish people , and they will help them prepare whatever is needed for Shabbat.

    (1) Literally, ‘slaves’ (עֲבָדִים).

    The nations of the world will submit to Israel’s Messiah, or die:

    Maimonides’ Mishneh Torah: Kings and Wars 6:1
    https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Kings_and_Wars.6.1?lang=bi

    War is not conducted against anyone in the world until they are first offered peace (and refuse it), whether this is a Discretionary War or a War of Mitzvoh, as it says, “when you come close to the city to fight with it, you shall call to it to make peace” (Deut. 20:10).

    If they make peace and accept the Seven Commandments incumbent upon the Sons of Noah (Gentiles), none of them are killed, but they must pay us tribute, as it says, “and they shall be for you a tributary, and they shall serve you” (Deut. 20:11).

    If they propose to accept upon themselves the payment of the tribute but not servitude to us or they accept servitude but not the tribute, we ignore their proposal until they accept both. The servitude referred to here is one of disgrace and is demeaning. They are not to raise their heads up to Israel for any reason. They must be subjugated to us and may never be assigned to a Position over us. The tribute they must pay shall be for service of the king, with their bodies and their money, such as the building of the walls and the strengthening of fortresses and the building of the royal palace and similar, as it says, “And this is the account of the levy which King Solomon raised to build the Temple of G-d, and his palace, and Milo, and the wall of Jerusalem…and all the store-cities which Solomon had…the Emorites who remained…and Solomon imposed a head-tax, until this very day. And of the Children of Israel, Solomon made none a bondsman; but they were the soldiers and his servants and his officers and his captains and those in charge of his chariots and his horsemen” (I Kings 9:15-22).

  27. I heard the revival of Hebrew was a rather recent project for those people who identify as Jewish. i.e. Is not Yiddish more the language around which much of Jewish culture largely revolved for the past several centuries? And going on the many Jewish folk tales that involve money dealings, rather than wildlife omens and encounters with nature, Yiddish could easily have 100-200 expressions for buy and sell. True, I have no proof. But, in terms of attitude, I can point you to this:

    …the middle finger, halfway between the yid and goy, is known as the galekh, the priest, but for reasons that no priest could ever guess.
    – M Wex, Born to Kvetch, p. 71

    p.s. The novelist Christopher G Moore wrote a non-fiction book called Heart Talk, In it he translates more than two hundred Thai expressions that use the word “jai”, or heart. Jai dee = good heart. Jai lon = hot heart. Jai dum = dark heart, etc. Moore explains Thais never separated the rational from the emotional to the extent that we have in the west. That may be so, but if you are looking for love, Thailand may not be the best place to go. 😉

  28. RogerL says:
    @Stogumber

    Wow, what an interesting tidbit. This explains a lot of things, especially the dysfunctions of Protestantism today, and its shrinking popularity.

    I can see that accuracy would be a handicap to arm waving, fire breathing, melodramatic, preachers.

  29. @Ace

    When words lose their meaning, the gate is opened for violence.

    Since well over a century, at least in the so-called West, especially political and philosophical words have been deprived of their original meaning at ever faster rates. That is because European civilization has been taken over and is being dismantled by Americans. The few Americans who think and feel like old-fashioned Europeans, have always felt compelled to leave the US. People like T.S. Eliot, Julien Green, Ezra Pound etc. found the intellectual climate they needed to thrive in Europe.

    Since the 1970s, the wave of cultural iconoclasm from the US has become stronger by the day, and has now gone completely berserk. Its lunatic manifestations are regularly mentioned, described and analyzed here at UNZ. The small minority that has been presiding over our destinies for some time now, first needs to turn the world into an open psychiatry ward in order to establish their permanent, uncontested dominance.

    Today, we are witnessing the last stages of this destructive process everywhere we look.

    I am afraid we will witness the final dismantling of states everywhere before the full extent of the eventual dystopian world will become visible.

  30. Gilad, I’d be curious as to your take on the concept of “mitzvah”. I’ve been told (by Jews) that it is a good deed done as part of their religious duty, and that as far as who the deed is done for, there is no distinction between Jews and non-Jews. I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.

  31. Anon[345] • Disclaimer says:

    i bet they have a word for “the rest of you can suck it!”

  32. RogerL says:

    There are several overlapping words, including Hebrew, Jewish, Judaism, Semitic. I don’t usually see references to the Israeli culture, and I think it would be helpful to spell this out.

    The culture of Israel has become toxic and self-destructive. A lot of Jewish people, especially those living outside of Israel, seem to be decent rational people. The way things are going, a pogrom is going to be ignited, and the way things are currently being framed, it will be against all Jewish people, not against the Israelis. This will just perpetuate many age old conflicts.

    On the other hand, if the situation was framed, so the problem is seen as the toxic and self-destructive Israeli culture, this would shift a lot of cultural/political dynamics in helpful ways.

    There is a need to distinguish between the factions of Jewish culture which do reflection, and learn from it, and those that don’t. The next step is to suppress and disempower the Jewish subcultures that don’t do reflection or learn from it.

    The simplest way I can think of for doing this, is to distinguish between the Israelis who support genocide of the Palestinians (and Jewish people supporting those Israelis), and other Jewish people.

    [MORE]

    ~
    Along these lines of vocabulary, the phrase antisemitism is pretty weird. Arabic is a Semitic language, and while Israel is rabid about antisemitism against Jewish people, they are fine with the genocide of Palestinians, a Semitic culture. So in this sense, Israel is a deeply confused anti-Semitic culture.

    > > Accusing Israel of being anti-Semitic will short-circuit the minds of many people, and the mental exercise will be good for them.

    I’m starting to think that hypocrisy is a banal evil and that it is the most destructive and corrupting evil threatening our civilization.

    ~
    The capacity of most people, for understanding complexity, is fairly limited.

    For more on this issue, read
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-ring_theory_of_economic_development
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/stupid-people/
    For bonus points, take the quiz in the second link, and see if you can spot the poorly worded question, which has 2 different interpretations, and 2 different answers, depending on which way you read it.

    So while its a good idea to do thorough and deep analysis when coming up with solutions, if the masses of ordinary people will be able to personally relate to the plan and enthusiastically support it, then the basic plan needs to be presented in simple, basic terms.

    In this case, this seems to be the core of a useful framing:
    – Israelite’s devotion to genocide and hypocrisy is bad.
    – Jewish people, who are devoted to honesty, who condemn genocide and hypocrisy, are good.

    All kinds of useful, healthy, and complex changes will flow out from these simple starting points.

    The intensity of anger with Israel is steadily increasing. For a workable path forwards, that anger must be directed against the rogue nation-state Israel, not against all people of Jewish heritage.

    ~
    Many people fantasize about something happening and Jewish people disappearing. That won’t ever happen.

    Worse yet, if a lot of Jewish people do disappear, it will be the rabid right-wingers, in heavily armed bunkers, who survive that period, and then shepherd the recovery of Jewish culture. What a nightmare.

    We must stack the deck against the frothing hate-full Israeli right-wingers, and for the rational, moral, cooperative stewards of Jewish culture.

    ~
    There are other problems, relating to the Jewish culture, which need to be addressed. However, one-step-at-a-time generates the most reliable long-term net progress, and this step is a good starting point.

    In addition, the other problems will be easier to deal with, once Israel ceases to be an enabler for dysfunctions in Jewish culture in other countries, and dysfunctions in the EU and america for everybody.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  33. Israeli oppression of Palestinians by “bad Israelis” is a major problem, but not the only problem.

    Perhaps larger than that problem, and enabling and perpetuating “bad Israelis’s” oppression of Palestinians, is “bad Jews” in USA who dominate US media and culture, and are busily engaged in zionizing — or Weimarizing — USA.

    How does one sort that lot?

    Is the distinguishing characteristic, “Do you support the holocaust narrative?”

    That seems to be the only quasi-religious belief that unites all Jews; it’s propaganda: some Jews must know that; many non-Jews know that.

    (If it’s not possible to empty-and-shutter every holocaust museum in the nation, then at least shut down ADL: sue the organization under whatever laws can be tossed at them — RICO comes to mind, to decimate their war-chest and to expose and silence their spy networks. Get ADL out of US public schools, out of FBI, out of media. Shut it down.)

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Zina
  34. @SolontoCroesus

    Perhaps larger than that problem, and enabling and perpetuating “bad Israelis’s” oppression of Palestinians, is “bad Jews” in USA who dominate US media and culture, and are busily engaged in zionizing — or Weimarizing — USA.

    How does one sort that lot?

    Is the distinguishing characteristic, “Do you support the holocaust narrative?”

    You should get busy on that SC, you have such a sterling reputation in the real world, people are going to listen to you and follow your ideas. I am sure that you can get that done. Just tell them you are a Nazi lover and you want to sort out the good Jews from the bad Jews and see how that goes. LOL.

    What a guy SC, what a guy.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  35. Zina says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    There are more Holocaust museums in the US than Civil War museums. Weird, right? Zionists are trying to make it into both the American religion and history.

  36. @Gilad Atzmon

    I finally get it! By encouraging, feeding and perpetuating anti-Semitism, you’re actually doing your part as a “negative conformist” Zionist. That’s some epic pro gamer level Judenkopf action right there. (Although you did kind of expose your hand with your sympathetic posts about Israel and the so-called vax.)

    But for those who can’t see through your cleverly inverted hasbara, you do seem to present as quite the paradox. On the one hand, let’s face it, you’re best known as a hater, beloved by Jew haters the world over. On the other, you spread “joy” and good vibes through your music, although it’s a valid question how much “joy” is actually brought by warmed-over Bird licks with iffy intonation and seemingly unavoidable clunky Slavic phrasing. And that’s just on alto. I’m sure some people actually dig “duck call” soprano tones. Cultural appropriation!

  37. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:

    Another concept that is missing from Hebrew is “truth.” Judaism cannot conceive of the ideal as real, and truth is only understood as whatever serves the immediate interests. Truth is “what is good for me” or, in the broad sense, “what is good for the Jews.” Note that this is common to all forms of Dualism.

  38. @Gilad Atzmon

    ‘To start with they do not live in peace at all. Look at Israel, it is imploding. The only thing that unites the Jews is an enemy, an Amalek/Hitler figure. The great philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz said in the 1970s, Jews believe in many (contradicting) things but they all believe in the Holocaust. In abstract terms it is the fear of so called ‘anti semitism’ that unites the Jews ,hence, it must be sustained by different means’

    The quote seems to have been suppressed, but somewhere Philip Roth talks about how a contrived fear of anti-semitism becomes a device to restore a sense of community to an otherwise atomized Jewry; a way to retreat from the rather amorphous condition of American citizenship to a kind of comforting shetl of the mind: them out there, and us in here, secure and together.

    Increasingly, Jewishness seems to rest on artificial devices. Most Americans can barely identify Jews, let alone hate them — I know perfectly intelligent and informed people who were genuinely unaware that Bernie Sanders (!) was Jewish. Anti-semitism may be something that Jews need to exist as much as something that does exist. After all, everyone encounters bigotry: I’ve been damned near killed because I was white, I’ve no doubt Asians are victims of prejudice, rampant Islamophobia gets tedious, etc. To the extent that there is anti-semitism, is it really remarkable in any way?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  39. @RogerL

    ‘…There are other problems, relating to the Jewish culture, which need to be addressed. However, one-step-at-a-time generates the most reliable long-term net progress, and this step is a good starting point…’

    I see the problem as one of disproportionate power.

    Jews are two percent of the population. There must be a dozen or so ethnic or religious groups of vaguely similar size and with at least as strong a sense of identity. Moreover, these groups aren’t necessarily better or worse than Jews; we might find a massive Mormon or Chinese influence on all aspects of our culture and government at least as onerous as we do Jewish power.

    Jews, like anyone else, have their qualities, for better and for worse. I don’t think they’re really anomalous in this respect. The difficulty is that they exert an influence all out of proportion to their numbers. If Jews were as influential as, say, Polish Americans, I doubt any of their tendencies would pose any real problem. It would be Martha Stewart and Zbigniew Brzezinski and so what?

    • Replies: @Anon
  40. Anon[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    take note of a trvial election for, say a condo board, or perhaps the local garden club. Every single J. will vote for their landsman. 100% of time, every time. Ask a J. for a reccomendation of a service professional, restaurant, or geez a book – 100% of the time they reccomend a fellow J.

    No other tribal ethnic group in the US does this. Not the Armenians, Greeks, Italians, nor Irish.

    • Replies: @Nancy
  41. ‘take note of a trvial election for, say a condo board, or perhaps the local garden club. Every single J. will vote for their landsman. 100% of time, every time. Ask a J. for a reccomendation of a service professional, restaurant, or geez a book – 100% of the time they reccomend a fellow J.’

    Well, on the one hand, you exaggerate. When I had my moving business, my Jewish competitors would refer work to me.

    On the other hand, you have a point. I have an interest in medieval history, and when I saw a book entitled The Invention of the Middle Ages, in the library I promptly checked it out. After all, ‘the Middle Ages’ didn’t perceive themselves as ‘the Middle Ages.’ How did this paradigm develop? I was curious.

    The book never addressed that question. It turned out to be written by a Jewish historian — and was simply a panegyric to all the prominent medieval historians who had been Jews.

    That’s the sort of thing that makes you suspicious.

  42. @Rahan

    Bro, you gotta stop listening to anglin and watching porn. There are just as many traitor men as women, actually white men marry outside their race 20% more often, so you could even say we are worse. Yeah yeah, they vote democrat more w/e. I didn’t say they were smarter on avg. But they aren’t anymore traitorous than the millions of anti-white white men who have also been brainwashed. You are being tricked here. We can’t be against half our own kind. They shouldn’t be allowed to vote though, they are too soft and emotional. They make poor security decisions on average. Ideally we would bring back voting tests. People would have to prove they are capable of a base level of logical ability for their opinions to count. Anglin is funny and makes good points sometimes but he is either mentally disturbed or a shill. He doesn’t offer anything viable or have a coherent political ideology. He is just fan entertaining writer and anti most of the right stuff. His white woman hating is toxic to the survival of whites, it just creates incels and asian chasers.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  43. Nancy says:
    @Anon

    Sounds as Jews live in a world where Jews & Jewishness appear in Technicolor and all else is b/w.

  44. @Tom Marvolo Riddle

    One too many knock-backs one supposes.

  45. @Colin Wright

    That is simply the result of 3500 years of inculcation in xenophobic hatred of non-Jews and boundless contempt for them. This basic orientation to exclusivist and supremacist hatred, reinforced by rabbinical terror, and periodic massacres suffered by, and inflicted by, the Jews, is something that cannot be shaken off easily. It may, indeed, have become genetic and epigenetic in character. The Jews need to be placed in some sort of global sanctuary, protected by humanity, but forbidden barbarities like the oppression of the Palestinians, and the activities of various Judaic economic Mafias across the planet. Otherwise they will bring another horror, worse than ever, down on their heads, and ours too.

  46. @Fran Taubman

    Do you deny, Taubman, that there are Jews who behave well, and those that do not? Or are you simply ALL veritable paragons of every virtue?

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