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“Your destroyers and wreckers depart from you” (Isaiah 49:17)

Earlier this week, The New York Times praised the Israeli mass vaccination experiment. “In the most extensive real-world test so far, Israel has demonstrated that a robust coronavirus vaccination program can have a quick and powerful impact, showing the world a plausible way out of the pandemic. Cases of Covid-19 and hospitalizations dropped dramatically among people who were vaccinated within just a few weeks… early data suggests that the vaccines are working nearly as well in practice as they did in clinical trials.”

For one reason or another, the Israeli media is not as enthusiastic as the NY Times. On the penultimate day of Israel’s third lockdown, the most read Israeli online outlet, Ynet, carried the following headline: Spectacle of Failure: Third Lockdown Compared to Previous Ones.

The article unveiled the hopelessness and duplicitous nature of Israel’s COVID strategy and politics. Ynet points out that, despite the baseless promises made by the government and its prime minister, after six weeks in lockdown the situation didn’t improve at all. Despite Israel leading the world mass vaccination experiment, its COVID transmission rate is among the worst in the Western world.

The Ynet article stresses that “tomorrow at 7:00 AM the third lockdown will end, a month and a half after it was imposed – and the COVID data is much worse today compared with the situation at the beginning… at the point of departure of the third lockdown at the end of December, the rate of positive tests was 4.9%, the number of critical hospitalized patients was then 949, the number of verified cases was 4,010. Prior to the tightening of the lockdown, on January 8, the positive rate was 6.6%, the number of critical patients – 949, and the number of verified cases – 7,644.

At the peak of the third lockdown, the rate of positive cases reached 10.2%, the number of seriously ill patients climbed to 1,203 and the daily number of COVID diagnoses reached 10,114. Since then, the numbers have dropped by just a little. On Tuesday, the positive rate was 8.9%, the number of patients was 1,101 and the number of verified cases was 7,183. Even the R number, which determines whether the epidemic is spreading, has risen again to 1 in recent days.”

The combined number of vaccinated Israelis and those who recovered from COVID in the past should have provided Israel with a relatively strong herd immunity, enough to defeat the virus or at least reduce its reproduction rate. But the facts on the ground suggest the complete opposite. The transmission rate in Israel is higher than pretty much anywhere else. In fact the troubling correlation between mass vaccination and illness suggests that the more you vaccinate, the more COVID cases you find.

As if this is not enough, not more than two cities are castigated as ‘COVID green cities.’ One of those cities is Rahat, a Palestinian Bedouin municipality where the vaccination campaign is generally ignored. The Israelis can also see that amongst the COVID green communities, the Israeli Arab villages and towns are vastly overrepresented. Again, this may have something to do with their general defiance of the vaccine. In short, if we learn something from the ‘Israeli experiment’ it may be possible to conclude that the less you vaccinate, the more healthy your community is as a whole.

Considering the validated fact that the vaccinated are proved to be relatively immune at least at the present time, the only explanation (I can think of) for spike of cases, deaths and mutants in mass vaccinated states is the horrifying possibility that the vaccinated are actually spreading the virus and especially its mutants (particularly the British one). This possibility must be investigated. It is supported by established data collected in mass vaccinating countries, such as the UAE, USA, Britain and Portugal. Shortly after a mass vaccination campaign is launched, we detect a sharp exponential rise in cases and, tragically, deaths to follow.

The evolutionary theory that may lead to such a scenario is also far from being too complicated: struggling to survive, the virus mutates and then attacks those who are relatively unprotected (the unvaccinated). I explored the possibility of a conflict between the ‘vaccinated’ and the ‘unvaccinated’ three weeks ago. At the time, some Israeli scientists hypothesised a possible horrific scenario in which the vaccinated are identified as spreaders of some lethal mutants and are pushed into isolation.

In Israel, the IDF’s intelligence (AMAN) also runs an independent COVID research unit that estimates the risks imposed by the situation and evaluates relevant strategies. Earlier today AMAN published its warning that in the “coming weeks a sharp rise in cases is expected following the end of the lockdown and the rapid spread of the British mutant.” AMAN stressed that “more than ever, personal responsibility and adherence to the guidelines are required.”

With its decision to voluntarily make itself Pfizer’s testing ground, the Israelis are providing us with some invaluable understanding of the vaccine and the risks that are involved in COVID mass vaccination. If, for instance, we notice in the coming weeks that the IDF’s intelligence was wrong in its prediction and there is no significant change in the number of cases or deaths, we may be able to conclude that it isn’t social distancing that spreads the disease (in its current state) but probably the vaccine itself. If morbidity is reduced and case numbers drop, we may even be able to look into the possibility that social integration actually reduces transmission. If the number of cases rises sharply as the IDF predicts, we may be able to conclude that the vaccine had a very little impact on Israel’s herd immunity. In fact, the campaign was a spectacle of failure.

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There are now estimates that 50% of Israelis do not believe in the vaccine and the rationale behind it. Israeli vaccination centers are currently empty despite pressure mounted by the government and municipalities on citizens to get themselves ‘protected.’ Many Israelis believe that the national vaccine campaign is there to serve PM Netanyahu political goal: a victorious image that would win him the next election and may save him from his current legal complications.

Those who are familiar with Jewish history should be aware of the role and prominence of the collective suicidal narratives that have shaped Jewish history in the past. The Old Testament points out to the Hebrews that “your destroyers and wreckers depart from you” (Isaiah 49:17). Most Jews tend to attribute this Godly observation to Jewish dissenters, but Jewish history may instead suggest that it is the Jewish accepted leaders, both political, spiritual and religious, who often led their people on the most disastrous and tragic paths.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. El Dato says:

    It will be fascinating to see where this goes. My tricorder is ready.

  2. On the bright side…

    (1) The Corona Virus really is relatively innocuous, as death plagues go. I mean, the population at risk consists primarily of people who have reached the point where they are about to die of something. People do die. I think that we’ve managed to convince ourselves otherwise. Hence the Corona hysteria. ‘You mean I might not live forever!?! It can’t be…do something!

    (2) It is the forces of darkness: the Democrats, the New York Times, the Guardian, et al who have hitched their star to the whole paradigm of vaccination, shut down, etc. When it all doesn’t work, their credibility is going to suffer irreversible damage.

    So perhaps it will all turn out to have been worth it in the end.

    • Agree: Wielgus
  3. lloyd says: • Website

    So to make it work, the entire populations of the world will have to be inoculated. Otherwise it is a dog chasing tail story. That is the end game as the vaccination mongers make clear.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  4. Everything keeps pointing to this virus having been a germ warfare project that got inadvertently got out.

    That it fails to conform to the expectations of the epidemiologists and medical researchers is just one aspect of it. Of course it would prove difficult to definitively cure.

    I’m not saying this is the explanation of the virus. I am saying it’s the hypothesis that best fits the evidence.

    1. It appeared in the city containing China’s germ warfare lab.

    2. It is relatively innocuous. If you were developing a biological weapon, making it truly deadly would be the last step. You want to be able to keep working with it without risking killing everyone in the lab.

    3. There was a prompt, global, and disproportionate freak out. Also like China said ‘keep this under your hat, guys, but something just got out, and we’re not too sure how deadly it might be…’

    4. Carriers are asymptomatic until they’ve had a good chance to spread the virus.

    5. The virus generally fails to conform to any models; it’s proving almost impossible to develop a vaccine for it.

    If China had been working on something, and it had got out, wouldn’t all the data we have so far fit?

    …right down to the ‘it couldn’t have been China. Noo…’ Because of course there’s little point in going to war with China over this at this point. It won’t make the virus go away.

  5. Amongst the COVID green communities, the Israeli Arab villages and towns are vastly overrepresented. This may have something to do with their general defiance of the vaccine

    Sounds as though the vaccine is the dead opposite of what the Zios have been striving for all these decades: a plague that kills only goyim.

    • Replies: @Anon
  6. Dumbo says:

    The evolutionary theory that may lead to such a scenario is also far from being too complicated: struggling to survive, the virus mutates and then attacks those who are relatively unprotected (the unvaccinated).

    Maybe, but I have some problem with these theories that assume some form of agency or strategy on viruses. Viruses are hardly living beings, they certainly aren’t sentient. Honestly I don’t even think they are real (I am more for the exosomes theories, or “terrain” cause of the disease).

    At any rate, I don’t think they “mutate to attack the unvaccinated”. If there really are more deaths, the more likely explanation is that the vaccine transmits COVID, or make people more susceptible to catch COVID.

    At the time, some Israeli scientists hypothesised a possible horrific scenario in which the vaccinated are identified as spreaders of some lethal mutants and are pushed into isolation.

    Yes, this is how they will (or want) to make it. Of course they want to force the vaccine on anyone. But the “unvaccinated” are not dangerous. Actually, COVID is not dangerous.

    You know what’s really dangerous? Psychopaths in power.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @SteveK9
    , @Gulnare
  7. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    Hence the Corona hysteria. ‘You mean I might not live forever!?! It can’t be…do something!‘

    The Corona hysteria is basically created from above. By the media and governments. I don’t think most people are afraid of corona itself, at least, not from their own evidence of corona. We maybe boomers are, I don’t know. Boomers want to live forever?

    When it all doesn’t work, their credibility is going to suffer irreversible damage.

    Nah. If that was the case, they would have lost all credibility years ago.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  8. A curious case, to be sure. Thank you for writing about it.

  9. JasonT says:

    Testing testing testing. That’s the heart of the scamdemic.

    Further, COVID is not overly deadly on a population scale. Treat the people showing symptoms with known effective treatments (which of course are being vilified by the scammers and their media whores) and let every one else get on with their lives.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
  10. @Colin Wright

    It appeared in the city containing China’s germ warfare lab, but it appeared there long after it appeared here.

    The CDC found Covid-19 in the US before it was in China, agreeing with findings in Italy and France.

     Tests of blood samples taken in the US from December 13 last year revealed evidence of antibodies for the Covid-19 virus. The samples were taken more than two weeks before the December 31 official confirmation of the outbreak in Wuhan and a month earlier than the first confirmed case of Covid-19 in the US on January 19.

    Serologic testing of U.S. blood donations to identify SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies: December 2019-January 2020. Sridhar V Basavaraju, MD, et al. https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1785/6012472

  11. I am compiling an account of each vaccine’s effectiveness against Hospitalization, Death, Medical Treatment, Infection, British Strain, S.A. Strain

    All contributions welcome. Reply to this comment. Thanks

  12. roonaldo says:

    Remember, it is still killing mostly old folks and thus saving shekels, removing useless eaters, and freeing up funds for investment, while proving to the world through cooked numbers and faulty reasoning that the vaccinated are protected and are brave warriors, unlike the ignorant and selfish vaccine refuseniks.

    Jewish media provide otherwise hard to find info on Israel’s mass vaccination experiment, such as the deaths of the vaccinated Rabbis Yitzhok Scheiner and Moshe Weisman, the latter a few days after jab number two (more like a Mike Tyson uppercut than jab, methinks), both of whom had strictly followed lockdown rules.

    The Vaccine Kraken has appeared but, as in our childhood bedtime horror stories, we are assured it is make-believe.

    In Norway, of the first 42,000 prioritized to receive the vaccine (elderly and medical workers), reports first said 23, then 29, then perhaps 33, elderly folks had kicked the ol’ lutefisk barrel. The Norwegian Medicines Agency, which at first appeared inclined to investigate honestly, eventually brushed it off as merely old farts too weak and sick to handle the usual side effects of swelling, nausea, and vomiting, stating “When it comes to causes, we haven’t done any analysis yet.”

    In Spain, town of Lagartera, the El Salvador old folks home began jabbing residents and workers 01/13/21, and six days later the fun began, and the Kraken claimed nine “ancianos,” with 78 of 79 of them infected, along with 33 of the staff. The head of the NGO that runs the place said “I do not think it was because of the vaccine that is to save lives and not infect residents,” and “the sooner everyone receives the vaccine the better.”

    In New York State, the Commons on St. Anthony nursing home began bobbing and weaving and jabbing and left-hooking the residents just before Christmas Day, and 32 of them pesky ‘ol sparring partners were KO’ed by “the one, the only, and still vaccineweight champion of the world, theee Krrraaakenn.” Soon the Vaxxing Commission assured the world that the “Covid Kid” was the real champ and had begun infecting the sparring partners a couple of days before the jabbing began and that the Vaxxing Profession is straight and honest with no Mafia connections.

    Meanwhile, in Europe, although all are assured the Kraken is illusory, Spain and Italy are choosing not to jab those over age 55, with that caution applied to those over age 65 in Norway, Germany, France, and Austria. You can go back to bed now, children, sweet dreams.

  13. At least their lockdown is ending. Here in Beautiful British Columbia, Dr Bonnie “Mengele” Henry (legal disclaimer: this post is satire protected under freedom of speech charter rights) has now told us that we are not legally allowed to have a friend over ‘indefinitely’. This is on the heels of the Trudeau government spectacularly bungling vaccine acquisition. Personally, I’m of the opinion to tell Bonnie the Butcher, under whose watch and disaster of health policies the virus spread uncontrolled in long-term care homes for vulnerable seniors, to go fuck herself with something long and covered in sandpaper.

  14. unit472 says:

    Are Israel’s Arabs being tested at the same rate as Israeli Jews or are they resisting this too. If they aren’t being tested at the same rate the incidence of infection maybe unknown.

    • Replies: @JonT
  15. @roonaldo

    So first they kill them with Covid-19 then with the vaccine – it must be hell for these old folks. If the Covid don’t get you, the vaccine will, both cooked up by bad ole Bill (Gates)!

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  16. Hosea 6

    1 Come, and let us return to the Lord;
    For He has torn, but He will heal us;
    He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
    2 After two days He will revive us;
    On the third day He will raise us up,
    That we may live in His sight.
    3 Let us know,
    Let us pursue the knowledge of the Lord. …
    6 For I desire mercy and not sacrifice,
    And the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

    Dear Sir, the GOD of Israel is most merciful and He is a lover of mankind. Great Omnipotent/Omniscient Deliverer. God is Good!!!

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @solo
  17. @Godfree Roberts

    Yeah.

    As I say, I’m not wedded to the notion that it all is a Chinese germ warfare project gone awry.

    …just going out with him on Friday nights for now.

    However, that the virus did make its first public appearance in Wuhan adds to the evidence supporting hypothesis A.

  18. SteveK9 says:
    @Dumbo

    Of course you are correct, viruses don’t ‘think’ or strategize or anything of the sort. People get used to talking about them in the way they anthropomorphize everything. A scenario in a situation like this might be: The mRNA vaccine codes for a specific protein. That protein is part of the ‘coat’ on the virus. Antibodies are developed against that protein. Apparently these antibodies are supposed to be able to recognize the protein on the surface of the virus, even though they have been developed against the ‘bare’ protein itself. The virus isn’t ‘struggling to survive, but there are some mutations present, maybe a tiny fraction that are different enough to not be affected by the antibodies, so those mutations are ‘favored’ … perhaps the persons immune system can handle this variant and although they might get somewhat sick, they do get well. But in the meantime they are spreading a new mutation, that is not affected by the antibodies developed by the vaccine.

    OK, I’m just making this up. It would be nice if some ‘experts’ could comment, but for the most part everyone has been given the story … the vaccines are GREAT.

    I wish there had been more attention to prevention (Vitamin D, etc.) and treatment … HCQ, Ivermectin, whatever.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @anonomojoe
    , @Eagle Eye
  19. @Colin Wright

    As far as I am aware, China was the only country testing for Coronavirus, having set up a 70,000-node, nationwide detection system in 2004, after the SARS scare.

    Not only did Western nations reject such a system (though the WHO urged it upon them) but they did no Coronavirus testing at all.

    If that sounds crazy, the US went further: the CDC employed cease and desist orders to prevent licensed health professional from even testing for Coronavirus until March 13, when it distributed its own test kits–which failed and had to be recalled.

    And the CDC now tells us that it was in the US long before it reached China: Tests of blood samples taken in the US from December 13 last year revealed high levels of antibodies nationwide for the Covid-19 virus. The samples were taken more than two weeks before the December 31 official confirmation of the outbreak in Wuhan and a month earlier than the first confirmed case of Covid-19 in the US on January 19. Serologic testing of U.S. blood donations to identify SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies: December 2019-January 2020. Sridhar V Basavaraju, MD, et al. https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1785/6012472

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  20. SteveK9 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    This proves absolutely nothing. We don’t know when the virus was circulating in China. So your ‘long after’ description is nonsense.

    What I believe is that this virus is the product of ‘gain of function’ experiments and that it escaped by accident. For God’s sake, they published a paper in 2015 that practically describes SARS Cov-2 in detail (below). It is not a ‘bioweapon’. Whether it got out of the Wuhan Virology Institute or Fort Detrick, or the U. of North Carolina is not clear, but I would put higher odds on Wuhan.

    A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
    Vineet D Menachery1, Boyd L Yount Jr1, Kari Debbink1,2, Sudhakar Agnihothram3, Lisa E Gralinski1, Jessica A Plante1, Rachel L Graham1, Trevor Scobey1, Xing-Yi Ge4, Eric F Donaldson1, Scott H Randell5,6, Antonio Lanzavecchia7, Wayne A Marasco8,9, Zhengli-Li Shi4 & Ralph S Baric1,2

    VOLUME 21 | NUMBER 12 | DECEMBER 2015 nature medicine

    1Department of Epidemiology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA. 2Department of Microbiology and Immunology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA. 3National Center for Toxicological Research, Food and Drug Administration, Jefferson, Arkansas, USA. 4Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China. 5Department of Cell Biology and Physiology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA. 6Cystic Fibrosis Center, Marsico Lung Institute, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA. 7Institute for Research in Biomedicine, Bellinzona Institute of Microbiology, Zurich, Switzerland. 8Department of Cancer Immunology and AIDS, Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA. 9Department of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA. Correspondence should be addressed to R.S.B. ([email protected]) or V.D.M. ([email protected]).

  21. We do know when the virus was circulating in China: December 1 is the first known case and no serious source disputes that.

    The WHO will tell us more, of course, but we know far more about the course of the outbreak in China than we do about its eruption in the US. Far more.

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @unit472
  22. utu says:

    More garbage from the weak minded obscurantist. You can take Gilad Atzmon out of the medieval Jewish ghetto full of obscurantism and superstitious and magical thinking but you can’t take the ghetto out of him. Under a slight pressure and distress when confronted with phenomena he can’t understand he reverts to obscurantist methodology that sustained Jews for millennia when they by their own choice cut themselves off from Western rational methodology and thought.

    So what do we have here this time? Vaccine causes infections, social distancing increases infection rate, (anti-Semitic) virus strategizes how to be more mean to Jews. Should we be surprised? Here from April 24, 2020:

    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/corona-crisis-a-viral-episode-or-a-half-time-nightmare/
    What may be possible is that Covid 19 is not the root cause of the current disease, it may instead be a by-product of a radioactive interaction.

    It may also indicate that herd immunity won’t work, as we are not dealing with a viral infection but instead becoming ourselves, a source of radiation.

    Or here from April 2,2020

    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/god-and-the-coronavirus/
    The Israeli success in dealing with Corona could have a few explanations. It is probably true that Israel was more effective than others in dealing with Corona.

    But it may also be possible that the Rabbi had a point, Corona, as it appears statistically, at least, is more lethal for the Goyim and somehow less deadly for the people of Israel.

    The reason that the 3rd lockdown in Israel which is not a real lockdown by Asian standards does not work as advertised is because Israelis are flaunting it at every opportunity.

    Thousands Attend Rabbi’s Funeral in Jerusalem Amid COVID Lockdown; Police Say Won’t Confront 20,000 (Jan 31, 2021))
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-thousands-attend-rabbi-s-funeral-in-jerusalem-police-says-won-t-confront-20-000-1.9497649

    Minister Regev flaunts lockdown restrictions, holds office party (Jan 13, 2021)
    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/S1JCE72Cw

    It is possible that Israel’s contact tracing system was overwhelmed or it was abandoned once the vaccination program began.

    This is true that the decline of daily infections and daily deaths is not as rapid as one would expect from the number of vaccinations in Israel. This is most likely because the vaccine is not as effective among the very old who account for most of deaths. The very old were not a part of the original Pfizer study.

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @animalogic
  23. ivan says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    The PCR tests do not pick up the entire virus. That is, it doesn’t say here is the whole virus dammit, here’s the whole book. No, it does something much more limited and in motivated hands something very misleading. All it does is to test and amplify stretches of DNA, but those stretches are shared by many other forms of animal and plant life. It is like finding a commonplace sentence such as “My mother loved me”, in a fragment of a book and declaring that, that book can be unambiguously identified. Hence all the nonsense about them having found the Covid-19 in frozen sewage, old lab samples etc, is just a load of rubbish unrelated to the point at hand. The virus is from China unambiguously all the smoke-blowing to the contrary.

    • Disagree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  24. ivan says:
    @utu

    The other day an Israeli contact of mine, was describing his experience of receiving the vaccine as being particularly excruciating . He would be in his thirties. I don’t understand why the men and women in his age cohort are being vaccinated when they are in greater danger from the vaccination than the virus itself.

    See this :
    https://anti-empire.com/amp/singapores-accidental-covid-experiment-resulted-in-herd-immunity-and-just-1-death-per-75000-infections/

    And I can tell you that one of the two deaths mentioned was possibly a suicide, while the other is perhaps a case from early in the year, when they did not know how to handle the disease.

    And I can vouch for the above anyday, since I am living in SIngapore

    • Replies: @utu
  25. Rahan says:

    “Now everyone has to take our RNA vaccine in order to not die from the new viruses we created with our RNA vaccine.”

    So could one say, that potentially the world might get divided into separate sections not only politically and economically, but also on the basic viral level?

    As in “the West and its allies” who take the leaky vaccines create super viruses in their social environment, and thus the “non-Western rest of world” has to maintain perpetual isolation from the West?

    Because to enter “the Free World” you have to get an RNA vaccine that may protect you from their super-viruses, but then you become a spreader yourself, and can’t easily go back to where you came from?

    A replay of the conquest of the New World, as it were; the West again becoming walking bio-weapons.

    This timeline is amazing, and appears to be speeding up.

  26. Dumbo says:

    This is most likely because the vaccine is not as effective among the very old who account for most of deaths.

    So why in most countries they decided to vaccinate the very old first, including a 101-year old as one of the first vaccinated in Germany?

    Anyway, the very old are the more susceptible to die from “Covid”. The vaccine is useless or bad for the very old. So it’s a pointless vaccine that no one should take.

    The reason that the 3rd lockdown in Israel which is not a real lockdown by Asian standards

    Enough with the lies. Lockdowns not only don’t work, they are worse than the disease. Japan by the way never did a real lockdown. They had more deaths by suicide in a month than in the whole year of “Covid”.

  27. @Colin Wright

    I rather expect the SARS CoV 2 to ‘mutate’ into a more lethal form. In fact I suspect it already has done so, in vitro, and is just awaiting release.

  28. @Colin Wright

    There are 1500 or so high-containment labs in the USA, the USA has a long record of using biowarfare, Pompeo the Corpulent ordered Gain of Function research on coronaviruses be recommenced in 2017, US labs have a great record of leaks and other misadventures and AMRIID at Fort Detrick was shut down by the US CDC because of repeated biosafety breaches in August 2019, and they blame the Chinese. The giveaway was the rapid ‘outbreak’ in Iran, targeting high-level politicians.

  29. @Godfree Roberts

    Dear me, Godfree-facts!? You must be on the CCP payroll. I really, really, really hope that China expels the BBC hacks, preferably in chains.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  30. unit472 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Senator Tom Cotton spoke about an incident at the Wuhan lab in October, 2019. Seems the place shut down for time and phone activity in the vicinity ceased. This is what you would expect to happen in the event of an accident that required decontamination.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  31. @ivan

    Researchers do not use PCR tests on sewage or preserved blood samples. PCR is for street testing.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @ivan
  32. Gordo says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    The lady doth protest too much.

  33. ivan says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    It doesn’t make much of a difference. Unless they culture the virus in some form and examine it’s pathogenity compared to the Covid 19. it’s not the virus. Now there are of course some who claim that they have sequenced the entire virus, but the field is rife with half-cocked studies and claims made relying on such studies.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  34. @Colin Wright

    However, that the virus did make its first public appearance in Wuhan adds to the evidence supporting hypothesis A.

    I’d say that fact doesn’t add to the evidence supporting hypothesis A, rather it is the foundation stone upon which the hypothesis is based.

    There’s a substantial body of evidence, however, which challenges hypothesis A and points away from, rather than towards, China as the origin of Corona Chan.

    Larry Romanoff has done a sterling job in collating and correlating much of that evidence, which has been published here at Unz.com, eg:

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/chinas-coronavirus-a-shocking-update-did-the-virus-originate-in-the-us/

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/why-is-the-us-apparently-not-testing-for-the-covid-19-coronavirus/

    https://www.unz.com/article/covid-19-un-explained/

    Many questions to be answered, but most likely they’ll never be answered truthfully by Western officialdom. Following the money and the schemes of billionaire megalomaniacs might give some clues.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  35. @anno nimus

    Job 1

    9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied.

    10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land.

    11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

    12 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  36. If morbidity [sic … ‘mortality’?] is reduced and case numbers drop, we may even be able to look into the possibility that social integration actually reduces transmission.

    Highly unlikely; more likely would be that social integration fast-tracks herd immunity through a wider population spread, with most experiencing mild or no symptoms while developing some degree of acquired immunity.

    The lockdown strategy, especially when confining the populace to remain largely sedentary and indoors, is perhaps exactly the opposite of what should have been followed once the virus had entered the population.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch, Miro23
  37. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    It will continue ‘mutating’ until it has achieved its purpose.

  38. “. . a possible horrific scenario in which the vaccinated are identified as spreaders of some lethal mutants and are pushed into isolation.”

    You seem to be assuming that the vaccine tends to kill weaker / less lethal forms of the virus, but I don’t see any proof of this. Also, a more minor point is that if a virus strain kills, or incapacitates the host, it’s going to have a difficult time spreading.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  39. Lockdowns (with handcuffs) should be permanent.

    Keeping squats in lockdown is good for life.

    Soil and water are healthier. Olive trees, goats,
    sheep, chickens, humans have a chance at life.

    Vaxx ’em then lock squats up/down/away.

    Angels will smile.

  40. @The Alarmist

    Yup, bit of an arsehole this god character.
    Thank God he’s dead.

  41. SafeNow says:

    “I wish there had been more attention to prevention (Vitamin D, etc.) and treatment … HCQ, Ivermectin, whatever.”

    Two “whatevers”:

    1. Clinics to treat diabetes and hypertension should have been made ubiquitous, free, and friendly. “Friendly” is the hard part. These are two of the three primary comorbidities, and they are highly treatable. Obesity, the third, is intractable. Maybe over the coming decades of Covid, the above clinics will be implemented.

    2. When I visited my smart, Asian-American (redundancy) dentist, I noticed that the overhead ventilation ducts had been really humming away during my visit. She explained that she had had an air exchanger installed into the HVAC system, basically turning the indoors into the outdoors.

  42. @unit472

    This is what you would expect from lying Imperial racists. Still waiting for ‘Saddam’s WMD’ to turn up, are you? Or were they hidden in China?

  43. @ivan

    What are you talking about?

    Read the CDC paper.

    It has 34 authors, all far more qualified than you.

    Read their conclusions. Nobody doubts them.

    Read the scholarly correspondence around the paper.

  44. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Apologies for the facts. I’ll be more vigilant in future.

  45. Considering the validated fact that the vaccinated are proved to be relatively immune at least at the present time, the only explanation (I can think of) for spike of cases, deaths and mutants in mass vaccinated states is the horrifying possibility that the vaccinated are actually spreading the virus and especially its mutants (particularly the British one).

    As if this is not enough, not more than two cities are castigated as ‘COVID green cities.’ One of those cities is Rahat, a Palestinian Bedouin municipality where the vaccination campaign is generally ignored. The Israelis can also see that amongst the COVID green communities, the Israeli Arab villages and towns are vastly overrepresented.

    I would not be inclined to blame the experimental vaccines at this stage, and I am no supporter of mass dispersal of any of the experimental treatments. Aside from the experimental status of the treatments, any mass ‘vaccination’ effort would out of necessity need to require determining pre-existing immunity, which – notably – appears to be totally absent in all such programs, worldwide. Without this stage, a lot of the figures showcased are close to meaningless.

    I remember watching coverage of an airlift of Yazidi during the early ISIS attacks.

    As the chopper touches down, the first Yazidi to jump aboard the aircraft (with extensive difficulty due to his weight) was an aged man, desperately propelling himself to the safety of the aircraft, ahead of all of his younger relatives, and defenseless compatriots, who were all much younger and would be subjected to barbaric abuse or death if captured by ISIS.

    As I watched this, the cultural precept of ancient societies, such as within Scandinavia, came to mind, in which it was traditionally considered cowardice for any male to die a natural death in old age, outside of warfare.

    I thought of my own multitude of ancestors who without any compensation or promise of any reward went repeatedly enmasse to fight at Point Pleasant, Blue Licks, and in Revolutionary war and Civil war militia expeditions for no other reason but to respond to an aggressor who had threatened their homes and dependents.

    I am not suggesting that its cowardly to seek access to what is being offered as a ‘vaccine’,
    but its a general commonality among human-kind that those who will most eagerly propel themselves to the front of the pack when it comes to their own safety will be drawn from people who are most acclimated to depending on someone else to assure their welfare.

    The ‘first aboard the chopper’ for the vaccine are likely people who have most doggedly attempted to wait-out the possibility of infection, the most likely to have had the means to self-isolate and rely upon others to maintain the infrastructure of society – and to benefit from a monthly social payment that does not require general-public interaction.

    If you tell this demographic that they are now ‘vaccinated’, even with warnings of delayed immunity, its only a question of how large a portion will immediately begin engaging in their normal routine, or daily activities of convenience, because like the Yazidi grandfather who appears to have jumped in the chopper ahead of the women of his community, they were most likely normally acclimated to do what is in their own immediate self-interest, in the first place.

    The disparity between the vigour of the Arab and Israeli communities within Israel may be due to an assumption on the part of the former that ‘no one is coming’ , leading to a resolve that they will need to rely on their own Over time, this less comfortable existence has its own benefit, similar to a weightlifter who gains muscle mass due to tearing muscle fibers resulting from the exertion.

    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
  46. utu says:
    @ivan

    Singapore is a gross outlier. Its CFR is 1-2 orders of magnitude lower than other countries. To explain it one would have to see age profiles of all infected. Does Singapore data challenge the general understanding of the epidemic? Exceptions confirm the rule in the cases not excepted

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @Alfred
  47. The pandemic is a complete hoax with fake numbers. Per Koch’s Postulates, no one has proven the existence of any C virus. As many doctors have pointed out, the WHO and CDC are double counting deaths from other causes. The tests are fake and the numbers are all fake. NO ONE and trust the lying mainstream media, and apparently some so called alternative media sources.

  48. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I rather expect the SARS CoV 2 to ‘mutate’ into a more lethal form.

    Modern virology and bacteriology distinguish between infectivity and virulence. The first measures how easily the germ is passed between people, while the second measures how lethal or damaging it is. The two properties are generally considered independent of each other. It behooves us all to keep the distinction straight.

    With regard to Covid19, we have come to understand that its infectivity derives from the ability of its spike protein to fit the cell’s ACE2 receptor once the furin site on the spike protein is cleaved by the cell’s TMPRSS2 enzyme. We are also understanding that this ability is somehow optimal from the start of the epidemic and that is the reason why many consider it to have a lab origin. If so a random mutation in that spike protein would be more likely to decrease than increase its infectivity, though it could also alter the effectiveness of a vaccine.

    We have less understanding about what causes changes in the the virulence of a pathogen. Sometimes it is because a germ manufactures a toxic chemical but I see little indication of that here. In this case, some have suggested it changes with the initial viral load, but that is not well supported by the science. Quite possibly, this has more to do with host characteristics, such as general health, their immune response or what kind of cells the pathogen is primed to invade. There is no suggestion so far of a change in the latter happening. In general pathogens tend to evolve to decreased virulence over time, on Darwinian principles.
    https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/04/16/what-are-covid-19s-infectivity-and-viral-load-14723

    So when you suggest you “rather expect” the virus will “mutate”(your quotes) to a more virulent and lethal form, I have to ask if this is anything more than the usual rampant speculation

    • Thanks: ivan
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  49. @Irish Savant

    You seem to say that without a hint of irony. Did I miss it or do you really mean a virus has purpose, and hence consciousness?

    Maybe a soul as well?

  50. roonaldo says:
    @Commentator Mike

    It’s the ol’ one-two punch, double whammy, bait and kill-switch, Laurel and Hardy, Gates and Fauci–two ghoulish mofos indeed.

    Progress is being made in Israel. The average victim’s age in the three successive covid waves (surf’s up!) is 81, then 79, and now 77, according to the isrealnationalnews.com article of Jan 28, 2021. Thinning the herd of the oldest and weakest first, getting to younger and juicier meat is the Kraken–the injectable, delectable age is now 16.

  51. ivan says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Boss there are many who are equally if not more qualified on the other side. Molecular biology is generally accessible to anyone who can read English and the statistics around it is accessible to well prepared high school students . But I agree, I should have read the paper. Thanks.

  52. ivan says:
    @utu

    The article largely refers to the controlled, though perhaps unintended experiment in Singapore conducted if I recall correctly over forty days. It involved about 300.000 , mostly males in the age group 20 to 55. One cannot get a more controlled experiment than that anywhere.

    This has nothing to do with the general population who could move around at anytime though not in groups.

    Basically the Singaporeans went along with it, since those incarcerated – sorry isolated – for that experiment were foreigners. But the conclusions are so stark as to be definitive

    And again as I wrote on the deaths reported in that mass experiment one of them is a possible suicide.

    • Disagree: utu
  53. @Godfree Roberts

    Read the CDC paper.

    It has 34 authors, all far more qualified than you.

    Read their conclusions. Nobody doubts them.

    I doubt them.

    Your number 34 means nothing. Any more than the three thousand authors I`ve seen in physics occasionally. Just padding. Some of them do nothing more exciting than feeding the macaques.

    I have read several such papers. Not just their conclusions, either. But also their research protocols and their results. Have you?

    I have now replied in detail a total of three times to statements like yours, in recent UR threads, from commenters like you, who have actually cited references.

    In none of those cases did the original posters deign to reply to a single one of my considered points.

    My qualifications, having a Master`s degree with a focus on epidemiology, and medical-school qualifications in that subject, are at least in the same ball-park as your purported scholars. Got when those qualifications meant a little more than they do now, too. I also have post-graduate qualifications in the history and philosophy of science. (Do you?)

    Virologists, in the case of Covid19, have taken various short-cuts in the purported isolation of the virus, that may or may not undermine their conclusion. But it does seriously impugn their commitment to transparency and adherence to standard epidemiological principles.
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/31/phantom-virus-in-search-of-sars-cov-2/

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  54. Kumbaresu says:
    @Trial by Wombat

    I have also noticed that the kind of people who jump first the “vaccine chopper” live in the world which may be described with the following words: interest rates, soy bean futures, cholesterol level, blood pressure medications, vitamin supplements, transgender rights, rising inequality, sugar substitutes, commercial value charts, low calorie foods, high end cars, recent scientific studies, politically expedient, life saving treatments, domestic extremism, demographic policy, human resources, investment instruments and so on.

    On the other hand people who are adamantly opposed to vaccinations have a very different set of values such as: sun, ocean, fresh air, natural food, exercise, courage, love, sex, creativity, critical thinking, intelligence, music, lakes, mountains, rivers, trees, animals, flowers, beauty, plants, compassion, resistance, empathy, human spirit and so on.

    Please, correct me if I am wrong.

  55. pogohere says:
    @Irish Savant

    The mutations will continue until morale improves.

  56. @Peripatetic Itch

    I have read several such papers.

    Really?

    I must have missed them. Please cite them.

    I ask because, to my knowledge, it is the only extant paper published by a national disease control body that has taken blood samples from 2019 and tested them serologically for Covid antibodies. That’s a very far cry from non-government researchers finding fragmentary evidence in sewage samples.

    Given that the CDC findings directly contradict the USG allegations that the virus originated in China, it is hardly surprising that they rounded up 34 authors to provide some safety in numbers.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  57. nickels says:

    Jews were the first Californians–they hated government by themselves so much that they fled their homeland and spread throughout the world to convert the rest of the good places into hellholes run by themselves.

  58. Druid says:
    @Colin Wright

    People, especially Americans, are gullible and have very short memories!

  59. @utu


    “tomorrow at 7:00 AM the third lockdown will end, a month and a half after it was imposed – and the COVID data is much worse today compared with the situation at the beginning”.
    Why?
    “the 3rd lockdown in Israel which is not a real lockdown by Asian standards….”
    No.
    A real lock down is sheer ugly.
    No non-essential work. Testing-testing-testing. Infection investigations, thru multiple degrees of separation. Masks, gloves, social distancing. NO public activities (ie no cafes, pubs, parties, even friends “over”. ANYONE who enters internationally are quarranteened for 14 days (usually at Gov expense) interstate travel is draconianally controlled. These are the “highlights”. Failure on any of these increase the probability that whole effort will be for NAUGHT.
    But, hey, it’s all bullocks anyway so — whatever.
    Incidentally, there are many different vaccines out there, some based on different medical philosophies & techniques.
    Funnily enough, I believe the Lancet just gave Sputnik V a tick … Naturally the medical value of a Russian (or Chinese etc) vaccine will be the LAST consideration in the West.

  60. Covid-19 is essentially a disease of the Elderly. Globally the median age of death is 82, which means that over half of deaths are in this age group. 95% of deaths are reportedly in those over age 60. Nature published end of the summer that if you are under age 50, even with co-morbidities, you have almost zero chance of dying from Covid-19. (The CDC’s numbers seem slightly different from the rest of the world, and the format of their demographics tables have changed since the Spring, as has their grouping of Covid-19, pneumonia and influenza data. Hard to believe 10,600 people work there).
    A major deficiency in all the studies is the relative lack of vulnerable populations. I vaguely remember the median age in Pfizer’s clinical trial being 52, exactly 30 years younger than the median age for Covid-19 victims. Frankly the only data that really matter are those from those over age 80 (half the vulnerable) and those over 60 (along with those with cancers and renal failure, most of the other 50%). Yet these data seem largely missing. (Also note that for Flu the Elderly receive quad doses; we have no idea if that is necessary for protection from Covid-19 in the Elderly). Clinical trial studies on the young and healthy, not at risk from Covid-19, are not affected by deaths. Almost all the Covid-19 deaths (476,416 in the US today) are in the Elderly (95% of today’s total is over 450,000 of total deaths). The Elderly (over 65) die at the rate of 2.2 million per year, and of the present 450,000 Elderly dead almost all would be among the 6.6 million who will die over the next three years. When someone dies from Covid-19, that invariably pumps up and hypes the numbers; when the elderly die from a vaccination: “that is expected. These people are old”. These Vulnerable MIGHT get an extension of their lives with vaccinations, and the risk: benefit favors it for them. However it’s stupid for most non-vulnerable to be vaccinated.

  61. @Godfree Roberts

    You were replying to Ivan, who had stated, as his only real argument, I thought:

    Now there are of course some who claim that they have sequenced the entire virus, but the field is rife with half-cocked studies and claims made relying on such studies.

    My comments were in regard to that issue. Which is at least arguably foundational to any talk of antibodies.

    It`s always helpful to cite what you are objecting to in a reply — to relate why you think his comment does not address the issue you raised. Your unduly curt dismissal of his observation could have referenced something more than just a `CDC paper`. I do of course recognize that it was an extended back and forth, making considered replies more difficult.

    Sorry for my part in the confusion. I too could have delved further back in the thread.

    That said, I have now looked at your CDC report. Apart from that foundational issue, it seems to be well done, doing everything it could to distinguish reactions from other common corona viruses.

    It does have several limitations, which they fully acknowledge. The one of interest here is that the small number of probable SARS-CoV2 results could have been travel-related, coming from perhaps China.

    So their data may well push back the start of the epidemic, without delimiting its origin. More studies of the same sort seem to be needed.

  62. Gulnare says:
    @Dumbo

    Thanks. Psychopaths are the problem. Excess of power, too.

  63. Kumbaresu says:

    I find it amusing what kind of people are giving us advice on COVID-19!
    How about lovely Jennifer Ashton on Good Morning America?
    First, she drove her husband to a suicide and then wrote a book about it (Life After Suicide).
    Apparently, this was not enough, so she wrote another one ‘The New Normal’
    Here is her interview on GMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGC5wIpmb4
    So help me out here: we are supposed to learn on how to cope with the pandemic from someone who can drive a successful cardiac surgeon to suicide (before the pandemic).
    Perhaps, Jen should stick to what she is really good at: driving people to suicide.
    After all there is plenty of assholes administering this pandemic.
    So take you pick Jen and show us your real skills.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  64. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    ‘I rather expect the SARS CoV 2 to ‘mutate’ into a more lethal form. In fact I suspect it already has done so, in vitro, and is just awaiting release.’

    I’m interested in the idea that the whole thing may have been a ‘shot across the bows’ on the part of China.

    In case you haven’t noticed, making threats aimed at China has become fashionable. We’ll show ’em. No more Mister Nice Guy. Etc.

    So the Chinese are warning us to back off. See what we can do? Now, the next strain could be virulent — or you can quit with the war drums.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  65. @Kumbaresu

    ‘How about lovely Jennifer Ashton on Good Morning America?
    First, she drove her husband to a suicide…’

    To be fair, Jennifer would seem to be a Jewess.

    ‘…Ashton was born in California to Oscar Garfein, a New York City cardiologist, and Dorothy Garfein, a registered nurse. Her brother, Evan Garfein, is chief of plastic surgery and reconstructive surgery at Montefiore Hospital in New York City…’

    Jewesses don’t mean to have this effect on their husbands. They do it without thinking.

    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
  66. Kumbaresu says:
    @Colin Wright

    It is comforting to know that she has been vaccinated (just announced that on GMA).
    The next book she will have to write would be named ‘Living with autoimmune disease caused by asinine vaccines made by companies like Pfizer and Moderna who have total immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines’.

    • Replies: @HarvardSqEddy
  67. @Kumbaresu

    I live in a 55+ gated-community in Floriduhh. This morning, a well-intentioned woman came to my door to ask why I wasn’t taking advantage of the free Moderna jab at the clubhouse.
    When I began to describe the inefficacy of the PCR test and its fundamental flaw(s) she pulled out her ‘virtue-signaling’ banner and piped: “I know two people who died of Covid!” Oh dear.
    “Never argue with an Idiot. He/She will drag you down to his/her level where you’ll get beaten-up by his/her superior skills.”
    Will she have been the last Lenore to rap upon my chamber door?

    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
  68. Kumbaresu says:
    @HarvardSqEddy

    This morning, a well-intentioned woman came to my door to ask why I wasn’t taking advantage of the free Moderna jab at the clubhouse.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    In fact well-intentioned people like her will support quarantine/reeducation camps for the unvaccinated in order to stop the spread of the deadly virus. After all, people like you and me should be isolated first and reeducated later. For the public good, of course. Also torture is done by well-intentioned people to save lives, of course.

  69. @gar manar nar

    ‘“. . a possible horrific scenario in which the vaccinated are identified as spreaders of some lethal mutants and are pushed into isolation.”’

    Given the lead Israel has taken in this, I perceive a silver lining to this particular cloud.

  70. @Peripatetic Itch

    Peri, I am convinced that SARS CoV2 is a bio-weapon created in one of the USA’s VAST archipelago of bio-warfare laboratories. Added lethality could be engineered through numerous lab techniques, or simply from selection from various new variants produced by generations of viral reproduction in human cell-lines. We do know that the virus has attacked many bodily systems from the experience of a few unfortunates, so the mechanisms for those assaults can surely be refined and enhanced.The furin cleavage site was encoded by the insertion of a sequence of four base-pairs, a type of leap that mere ‘mutation’ does not cause.
    With the USA the greatest user of bio-warfare over the years, and with a massive Pentagon effort to collect DNA from all distinct human populations over recent years, through blood, tissue, neoplasm and other samples, I suspect that the US is still working towards its Unholy Grail-ethnically specific bio-weapons, the cause in pursuit of which Israel and South Africa, the apartheid twins, put so much effort decades ago, and which, I am certain, Israel still pursues.

  71. @Colin Wright

    Arse-about, Col. The USA makes a bio-weapon, but it leaks from Fort Detrick early, hardly surprising as US labs are seives. So Uncle Satan introduces it to Wuhan, of course, for plausible culpability, then the fakestream media, racist, hate-crazed, lie-fest begins. With China containing the attack, but the US, due to it social pathologies, or deliberately, suffering mass casualties, the casus belli for war against China is there. Just add some Murdochite psychopaths accusing China of deliberately unleashing it, and the pre-war hate-frenzy grows and grows.

  72. @roonaldo

    “more like a Mike Tyson uppercut…” best line ever. Thank you. haha too funny.

  73. Teel says:

    All my instincts tell me covid19 is part of Israel going for world domination. Yes/no?

  74. Altai says:

    Despite Israel leading the world mass vaccination experiment, its COVID transmission rate is among the worst in the Western world.

    8% of the population is Haredi, I’m surprised not everyone has been infected yet.

    And is nobody connected this with the low rates among Palestinians in Israel? It’s not complicated.

    • Replies: @LAGIrl
  75. LAGIrl says:
    @Colin Wright

    Here in Louisiana, the average age of death across the state is age 75 (people don’t tend to live very healthy lives here).
    The average age of death from COVID is also 75. In fact, the one person I knew who died from it was… 75 (and he had been ill for years).
    That, along with the fairly low mortality rate in general, means COVID will not in the slightest cut into the population growth rate. All of the drama over it is nonsense. The elderly should take special care of themselves (or their caretakers should) and the rest of us should carry on with life as usual.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  76. LAGIrl says:
    @Altai

    I watched a documentary on NYC Haredi recently, done in the fall of 2020. The reporter (A true COVID believer, of course) was absolutely shocked when one of them told him that yes, they had all had COVID already, yes, the entire family, yes almost everyone they knew. He seemed entirely unconcerned. They did know a few sick or elderly people who had died. “It’s in God’s hands”, they said (a concept foreign to secular people, of course).

  77. @Godfree Roberts

    In the 50 odd page paper issued by the CDC with detailed instructions on how to perform RT-PCR tests, the CDC specifically admits it does not have an isolated virus.

    CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
    Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
    Instructions for use

    The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. Samples were extracted using the QIAGEN EZ1 Advanced XL instrument and EZ1 DSP Virus Kit (Cat# 62724) and manually with the QIAGEN DSP Viral RNA Mini Kit (Cat# 61904). Real-Time RT-PCR assays were performed using the hemoFisher Scientific TaqPath™ 1-Step RT-qPCR Master Mix, CG (Cat# A15299) on the Applied Biosystems™ 7500 Fast Dx Real-Time PCR Instrument

    according to the CDC 2019-nCoV RealTime RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel instructions for use.

  78. Alfred says:
    @utu

    Singapore is a gross outlier

    True.

    1- Those locked up were of working age.

    2- Those locked up did not use masks

    3- There was no antisocial distancing. They were cooped up in crowded dormitories with multilevel bunks. They shared toilets and washrooms. There was no a/c in a tropical climate.

    4- They were not vaccinated.

    5- They received plenty of sunshine from hanging out on the terraces adjacent to their dormitories.

    Perhaps we should try to learn from this most informative experience of Singapore.

    It is patently obvious that those behind this massive hoax do not wish to publicise this information. There is total silence on the MSM. I suspect the internet cartel is censoring it.

  79. Eric Lander,has been overseeing university covid coronavirus testing and couldn’t distinguish between covid coronavirus and the now miraculously disappeared flu coronavirus….Science is dead….

    https://australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/bidens-nominee-for-new-cabinet-level-science-position-is-epstein-linked-geneticist/

    Biden’s Nominee For New Cabinet-Level Science Position is Epstein-Linked Geneticist.

    By Whitney Webb

    [MORE]

    CRISPR gene-editing expert Eric Lander, Biden’s director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, is awaiting Senate confirmation to serve in a new Cabinet-level position in the Biden administration. Jeffrey Epstein, the eugenicist pedophile and sex trafficker, bragged about funding Lander’s research and was photographed taking part in at least one meeting with him.

    Shortly before he took office, President Joe Biden announced that he would be elevating the director Office of Science and Technology Policy to a cabinet-level position, meaning that his nominee to lead that office, geneticist Eric Lander, would require confirmation by the US Senate. Lander is currently serving as director of that office, but has yet to serve in cabinet-level capacity as he awaits confirmation.

    Mainstream media reports described Biden’s move to place Lander in his cabinet as “meant to highlight his commitment to science,” which has been used to contrast his approach with that of Trump, who was accused of second-guessing “authoritative” voices from academia and the medical establishment. Lander is deemed to be one such “authoritative” voice, having previously served as external co-chair on former President Obama’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.

    The Broad Institute, Silicon Valley and Intelligence
    Despite Lander’s denials of a personal relationship, Epstein also had very close ties to Lander’s employer, MIT. Epstein donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the institution and Epstein was also used as a channel for making donations to MIT by billionaire Bill Gates. Gates has yet to explain why he would funnel his donations through Epstein as opposed to publicly donating via his well-known “philanthropic” foundation. Epstein’s funding of the MIT Media Lab in particular led to the resignation of its former director Joi Ito in September 2019 following Epstein’s arrest and subsequent “suicide.”

    In addition, Epstein was particularly close to one of the biggest names at MIT, the late artificial intelligence pioneer Marvin Minsky. Minsky once organized a two-day symposium on artificial intelligence at Epstein’s private island in 2002 and Epstein victims have alleged that they were forced by Epstein to engage in sex acts with Minsky. Both Minsky and Eric Lander were corporate fellows of the Thinking Machines corporation, a DARPA contractor that made supercomputers in the late 1980s and early 1990s. That company’s various components were acquired by a web of intelligence-linked companies like CIA-linked Oracle and IBM while many of its former engineers left for Sun Microsystems, where future Google CEO Eric Schmidt was then serving as Chief Technology Officer.

    The Broad Institute depends heavily on “private philanthropy” according to its website and its board of directors includes Apple chairman, Arthur Levinson; chairman of the McKinsey Global Institute, James Manyika; current chairman and former CEO of IBM, Louis Gerstner Jr; and former Google CEO and current chair of the National Security Commission on AI, Eric Schmidt. Also on the board is Seth Klarman, owner of the Times of Israel and a major donor to the DNC last election cycle. Klarman’s family foundation has donated heavily to the Broad Institute. In addition, Klarman announced his rejection of former President Trump in a coordinated PR push alongside Leslie Wexner, Epstein’s main backer who was integral to his intelligence activities and sex trafficking operation, in 2018. More recently, he was outed as the main financing source for the dysfunctional Iowa Caucus app in the most recent DNC primaries……..

  80. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The attacks in Iran clinched it for me. That was the dead give away that proved to my satisfaction that Conjob-19 was not an organic event and that it was not being spread randomly.
    That the US has a long history of attacking China through bio-warfare was a thesis I came across over a year ago. In this argument particular attention is directed at the loss of a critical part of China’s domestic protein supply, pigs, to infectious illnesses ( supposedly drones are used in these attacks). It’s hard for those of us who are not insiders or scientists to know what to make of it all.

    The mask is off. No meaningful debate in any ‘western democracies’ except Sweden on this faux flu. Tanzania refused the WHO payoff money. Putin has re-opened Russia and offers a voluntary vaccine. I don’t see how anyone with a brain in the West can continue to believe anything the leaders-liars and the con-artist talking heads on the propaganda shows say anymore. It is so incredibly obvious what a fraud this is, especially considering the outright financial fraud by elites who bankrupted middle class businesses. Wall St. got stimulus while Main St. got absolutely reamed and even bullied with uniformed thugs coming around telling people to ‘shut it down’.

    Now that the liars and grifters have their Signatory in Chief in the White House I expect they will escalate. It will get even uglier

    • Agree: Robjil
  81. @Dennis Gannon

    This is the crux.
    Is it just normal influenza renamed and exaggerated or is it an actual cold virus independent of seasonal influenza that isn’t very troublesome- killing off frail elderly people- but hyped as though the End Times are here?

    My reasoning is that a patient who presents with pneumonia will get an x-ray and a physical exam. If they assess it as bacterial then they prescribe antibiotics.

    In the case of Conjob-19 they have the general population believing in sophisticated testing. We don’t have sophisticated testing for other common viral and/or bacterial illnesses but I’m supposed to believe the sh$t these guys have been shoveling for over a year? Even more, I’m supposed to believe that I should get a vaccine to ‘protect’ me.
    Just when did the a$$hole$ who’ve hijacked our governments decide we are all stupid and brain-dead morons?

  82. Claudia C. says: • Website

    Ciao
    Indeed a friend of mine who lost her son years ago âgée 26 because of vax and got also “rewarded” by the Italian state, just to emphasyse that it was prooven, told me esactly same :on a much higher contagion afer even antiflu vax, one should stay away from others ! She said. And now Billy Gatti depopulation vax, that is really a genetical therapy, more than a sérum against flu for virus that are well known to be mutans! Its ridiculous, but much more a devils foolish tool! Feel very sorry for all nice people ignorant of the expérimental shots
    but at least Im happy for even the ” bit rebeliish and old style Orthodoxe Jews staying away from Epsteins& Billykilly Programm for World eugenetic New W. Disorder and doom! ”
    Like those the best that heal themselves with Gods fear, wisdom and knowledge and DivineHealthcare! Bravi! Blessing and long life and prosperity! They dont beleeve in Dr Hyde Its however horrible to see also i my own family that people just by responsabilità will accept anything bullied to do to keep heath and job! Even though Im christian, its a good sign of hope to have acknowledged they are saved for the futures maybe utopic or not world of the ☆ Comming back ofthe Messiah not all of them ricognized, or the Maadhi for the Arabs too! ☆ But for now the devil is around very much! Think of all massif child abuse ecc!

  83. @Colin Wright

    Occam’s Razor – It for sure won’t make THIS go away.

    https://harvoa-med.blogspot.com/2020/04/COVID2020.html

    The hydrogen cyanide hypothesis has me wondering if that blast in Lebanon (lots of nitrogen >>> HCN ??) dropped a cloud of pollution on Israel. The virus folks haven’t shown us they can truly isolate this virus they’re modeling with genetic sequences (supplied by who again?) and they certainly have not discounted toxicity in any of their “studies”.

  84. @SteveK9

    Patrick Theut is working on a Vitamin K angle that we don’t hear much about.

    https://www.k-vitamins.com/index.php?page=COVID-19_and_Vitamin_K

    He’s pretty thorough in terms of gathering peer-reviewed literature. He’s a virus-affirmer, but the work is still relevant in the following context. It seems much more likely that many of these illnesses (plural) being lumped-together by the virology-racket are a result of hydrogen cyanide (HCN) inhalation and that of other air pollutants; the main source being from the burning of toxic-laden fracked-fuels for power generation and transportation. Jim West tells us that refineries have requested (and received?) higher emission limits for HCN. A PubMed search on “Vitamin K and Hydrogen Cyanide” yields 157 papers. Some very interesting reading there. Thus, Patrick Theut’s work is still relevant, regardless the cause of illness. If Vitamin K does what his research indicates then it’s definitely a cheap prophylactic that holds promise. I’d talk to my doctor about it because it has both clotting and anti-clotting properties and can be contra-indicated if one is taking blood-thinners.

    I’ve only started to dig into those 157 papers; some of them appear to show Vitamin K countering the effects of HCN. There’s some interesting chemistry going on that to a layman looks like it’s worth pursuing further. I did notice something else in PubMed searches. There are 29 studies for “Vitamin K and Covid-19”, but there are zero studies for “Hydrogen Cyanide and Covid-19”. I guess nobody’s funding that, even though the list of symptoms for Covid-19 and HCN toxicity are virtually identical. Seems like HCN exposure would be of interest to research at least as an aggravating factor. All the strange blood-related stuff being studied in the peer-reviewed literature per Covid-19 seems like it would be raising more red-flags. HCN toxicity has a whole lot to do with the blood.

  85. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @traducteur

    Well, the virus has no logic. It can just replicate. With errors. One virus (the normal, Wuhan strand) gives some 10000 offspring per day. Some 1000 variants (errors). Moreover, this is the trick.

    You apply any measure — for example a mask. What you observe is the evident: some, say 90% of the water drops containing the virus are stopped. So 10%, the smallest, are left. With the time, all correct copies or mutations that produce large drops will be stopped. In addition, the only viruses that can infect are the ones that produce smaller drops. And clear, if the virus must infect with 10% of the viruses, it should be in addition to the aerosolised size of the drop, replicating faster. Are you killing 90% of the viruses forever? No. Just the opposite. You substitute low speed virus with high-speed virus that can penetrate through the mask. The virus has no logic. The measures have our logic.

    Fantasy? No. This is the story of the creation of the Spanish variant, 20A.EU1. In San Juan, Lleida, during end of May — June, by locking temporal workers (collecting fruits) with masks. The variant seems that escaped with the police that were guarding them. Then, seeing the temporal drop of the infections, Spain imposed universal mask even on the open air. As a result, the variant, without any advantage without mask (the bigger drops infect easier) became prevalent. As a result, Spain, with hot and dry air (not so dry behind the mask) was one of the few European countries with summer wave… For just 4 weeks this was the predominant variant (the other died for not to be able to penetrate the mask). Well the side effect was that mask or not in closed room the infection spread almost independently from the distance. This is the virus of the send wave in England and west Europe.

    The base for wearing mask it is that during 2 weeks the cases on some ship have more mild than severe cases. Well, what is valid at short period is not valid for a long period. Not with living creatures. One month are about 15 generations for the virus and some billions of intents.

    In general, any attenuation measure that attenuate N times in fact produce virus that is N times more virulent. The real diminishing of the particles of a single mask is about 60%, so with 2 masks you about 40%*40%, 16% left, so you multiply the virulency by 6. It is simple; do not give partial dose of antibiotic, for example.
    Vaccine is tremendous attenuation factor. However, a vaccine that installs immune response for 6 weeks against infection that lasts 6 weeks and has an infection cycle of 2 days, is just an attenuating factor for 6 weeks. If the virus is present there, it will infect and in 80% without any symptoms and the only variants that can survive are the ones that are resistant to the antibodies produced by the vaccine. So, if N with the vaccine could be 500 or more.

  86. Anon[359] • Disclaimer says:

    From the Times of Israel, on February 11:

    It works: 0 deaths, only 4 severe cases among 523,000 fully vaccinated Israelis / HMO data a week after 2nd dose shows 93% effectiveness, ‘unequivocally’ proving vaccine’s success and leaving ‘no doubt’ it’s saved many Israeli lives, says Maccabi official
    By Nathan Jeffay
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/hmo-sees-only-544-covid-infections-among-523000-fully-vaccinated-israelis/
    They used the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine. Comments? Too good to be true?

  87. hillaire says:
    @Colin Wright

    They will need to isolate the virus first…
    hint : hasn’t been done..

    so perhaps they are field testing the bio-weapon, certainly looks like it, because it isn’t a vaccine, it is a gene altering therapy rushed to market and use by a bunch of demented, dysgenic, eugenicist criminals for a so called disease that probably wouldn’t even be noticable without fake pcr tests and media hysteria… imbeciles that trust this nonsense or seriously entertain as sensible and proportionate any of the so called emergency measures deserve a ‘little prick’.

    come now you should all know this…

  88. Eagle Eye says:
    @SteveK9

    The mRNA vaccine codes for a specific protein. That protein is part of the ‘coat’ on the virus. Antibodies are developed against that protein. Apparently these antibodies are supposed to be able to recognize the protein on the surface of the virus, even though they have been developed against the ‘bare’ protein itself.

    All correct. QUESTIONS:

    (1) What ELSE do the protein segments synthesized from the MRNA do?

    (2) Once trained to recognize the synthesized protein, what OTHER similar proteins in the body will the newly trained antibodies attack? E.g. syncytin-1 (plays a role in implanting fertilized eggs in womb)?

    (3) What happens if RT (reverse transcriptase) provided by another virus copies the vaccine MRNA into cell DNA? What about the risk of autoimmune diseases? Cancer?

  89. solo says:
    @anno nimus

    Is that why; out of love and mercy you are murdering, stealing, plundering the Palestinian people and their lands. No healing will come your way except utter degradation, sorrow and destruction, you money changers are the worst of all created beings but you preceive not. deaf dumb and blind are you. There is no God of Isreal, that is just a figment of your perverse convoluted mind…….There is only one God and he is the god of all people. the lord of all creation and the lord of life and death and the lord of resurrection and heavens an hell which is reserved for your crimes against humanity and murder of the most innocent.

    Do you think the lord above is absent….not at all, he is in full command and control of all affairs of the cosmos and earth, he is giving you criminal jews more and more rope so you can ensure your place in eternal hell, what a poor bargain you fools have made? for the comfort of few years of life on earth you have forfeited your hereafter, truly a cursed people you money changers are.

  90. Ron Unz says:

    Well, maybe the WSJ or the Israeli government is just flat-out lying, but here was the headline in my morning newspaper, with the article saying the same thing:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-data-shows-94-drop-in-symptomatic-covid-19-cases-with-pfizer-vaccine-11613401510

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  91. JonT says:
    @unit472

    OK. But if they aren’t sick and dying then does it matter?

  92. Tony Ryals says: • Website

    In truth with all your cheerleading for lockdowns early on and never realizing something was terribly wrong about the official 9/11 story until many years on I even doubt greatly your credibility Mr.Unz much less that of the Israeli genocidists who just gave Anthony Faucci their Israeli Nobel Prize,(ha)..When did you first realize it was a relative of Gilad’s named Menachem Atzmon who guarded Logan Airport Boston on 9/11 and that he was a stock crook as well as a secvurity company crook in bed with Netanyahu,Ehud Olmert and convicted of money laundering for the Likud Party in Israel before incorporating his ICTS International in Joe Biden’s state of Delaware to pump and dump his worthless shares and buy the contract to guard Logan Airport just conveniently before 9/11 with a small portion of his profits on that stock and security fraud against Americans ?!

    For all I know Israel may never have even injected their population with the Pfizer,etc. vaccine.
    Even if that bs was true it would not be worth polluting the planet with 8 billion dirty needles for a virus less deadly than the flu and that for some strange reason has cured the flu.And at my age better that I die than that one innocent child be abused and forced into a dirty mask for years for my or your sake.California should open up, all the Chinese masks that Pelosi’s nephew Newsom bought from his Chinese allies be shipped back to China, used or not, and California money refunded.Newsom should be in a jail cell next to Cuomo,Faucci,Bill Gates and so many others of our international globalist elites.

    Maybe the Israelis should consider giving their Nobel to the president of Tanzania or the leaders of Cambodia or Laos who apparently although next to China,have done far and away a better job of fighting Covid than your Israeli quacks by simply doing nothing ! Ha.I call it the ignorance of affluence.Some countries just can’t afford to be as stupid and ignorant as Americans or Israelis and some day too late Americans and Israelis may discover they could never afford to be as stupid as they’ve been behaving for decades either – after it’s too late !……

    …..

    Israel’s ‘fake news war room’ set up to tackle vaccine disinformation loses battle to Telegram, unit’s head admits.

    https://www.rt.com/news/515549-israel-telegram-vaccine-disinformation/

  93. @Ron Unz

    And yet they are having trouble getting people to vaccinate themselves:

    COVID-19: Israel’s vaccination drive hits stumbling blocks
    https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-israels-vaccination-drive-hits-stumbling-blocks/a-56599110

    Perhaps Israel didn’t do much good for the Jews after all. It seems they stopped reading The Wall Street Journal and started reading The Unz Review.

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