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On this extended interview I delved together with Steven and Jana Ben Nun into some of the most troubling questions to do with my work on Jewish ID politics and the true meaning of drifting away from Athens and its ethos. I can already see that many people have watched this interview in the last few hours. I hope you like it and share it with friends and foes.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Ideology • Tags: Israel, Jews, Judaism 
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  1. I’m not going to watch it for the next few hours. I’m very sorry you don’t produce transcripts, Gilad.

  2. Kali says:

    It’s not that I don’t love your work, Gilad, or appreciate your perspective, but our very limited internet here means that we can’t readily stream videos.

    I’m with Ann Nony Mouse in wishing you, or someone, would transcribe your interviews.

    Keep up the excellent work, regardless.

    With love,
    Kali.

  3. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    One of the most extraordinary of Gilad’s conversations:

    [spoiler alert]

    The god of the Jews is a god of rules and of fear.

    The god of Islam and Christianity is a god of love.

    Since 2001 the world has experienced one “apocalypse” after another — keeping the world in a state of fear. The world has become Jerusalemized.
    [this is consistent with the stated plan of a Jewish billionaire whose name I’ve forgotten: years ago he determined to spend great wealth to make the world think Jewishy. Elan Carr, US State Dept monitor for antisemitism, has a similar mission: to make the world “love Jews.”]

    Because both Islam and Christianity have elements of Jerusalem – revelation in their faith systems, they are not the appropriate counterbalance to the Jerusalemization of the world.
    Rather, Gilad says, the pagans are.

    I would change that a bit: I would say the people who still have a strong sense of their culture’s myths are the people who can effectively challenge the fear-imposing apocalypticism of mitzvoth-keeping Jerusalemites. [Worth noting that Athens / logos, the antithesis to Jerusalem / Revelation / mitzvoth-observance, has a strong myth system that serves as a unifying element to Greek-ness, i.e. unifying Athens vs Sparta in a common myth system.]

    I suggest that Hitler re-unified the German people by calling upon the Nordic myths; he was a master of these myths from his immersion in opera and especially Wagner.
    German Protestants in the era of the wars sought to separate their religious beliefs from Hebrew-centricity; Susannah Heschel took great offense to this effort.
    The Aryan Jesus: Christian Theologians and the Bible in Nazi Germany

    I further suggest that the most powerful thing Iranians have going for them is unifying power of their shared myths-history, for example, in their national epic, The Shahnameh.

    USA has no such epic. Rick Atkinson seeks to make his history of USA in WWII the “American epic,” but in my view, USA in WWII is where USA went WRONG, not where it expressed its soul, spirit and values.

    Atzmon said the mask = the yarmulke, the mark of abasement to the god who must be feared.

    I’ve thought of the whole covid ritual as a form of old Catholic ritual: women had to cover heads to enter church; one dips hand in holy water (Wash your hands!) and makes the sign of the cross — touch forehead — a thermometer is passed in front of forehead.

    In short, Ann Nonny Mouse, time listening carefully to this conversation is time very well spent.

    • Thanks: Gilad Atzmon
    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Fran Taubman
  4. Agree with Ann Nonny Mouse…our rural remote internet is too damned slow for streaming….constant buffering…can’t even use BitChute hardly! During summer, heat or storm or wind always causes slower internet (plus thanks to BLM-Antifa thugs and “Covid” city folks are moving out here in drove so there goes our bandwidth!)…will bookmark and watch in autumn when internet returns to normal speed. As Ann says, please provide a transcript if you can. Love Israeli News Live and Steve and Yana!

  5. anon[195] • Disclaimer says:

    The god of the Jews is a god of rules and of fear.
    The god of Islam and Christianity is a god of love.

    I think that to be a Christian, you have to intrinsically believe that there was a compact or protective concern by God to the Habiru/Hebrews.

    A great primer to really understanding the milieu and early structure within the Levant, via archaeology is available through Israel Finkelstein / Neil Silberman – The Bible Unearthed. Faith is great, however any article of faith should be unafraid to test itself through science and archeology.

    Do yourself a favor and read that book. It convincingly nails down the time that the Hebrew bible is initially compiled, and it – in a very kind way – points out some of the structure of the Torah that is inconsistent with the archaeology.

    My end takeaway is, the Bible has historical basis in many aspects, but it is clearly a work compiled by man, and can be shown in that regard in many different passages. So, what you would expect of man is to use such a text to serve political advantage seeking, which is in fact the case, however this does not mean that originally, there was no under-girding purpose consistent with the hand of God.

    My own personal belief is that the Habiru/Apiru/Hapiru/Hebrew are not a tribal group, but are essentially a class of homeless / disenfranchised / desperate people, who arise as a social phenomenon as the Fertile Crescent becomes largely a settled population of land owners, whose watered lands are guaranteed by powerful rulers using these ‘new’ written law codes.

    That God would take concern over the plight of the homeless and downtrodden living at the mercy of brutal empires is entirely consistent with the New Testament teachings of Jesus in Christianity, and that he would want to offer to provide for them is also entirely consistent.

    So in Pritchard’s translations of the Assyrian slave contracts, (really Hurrian) we have Habiru / Hebrew transients coming into settled communities and selling themselves permanently into slavery, with provisions in the contracts to clearly state that the enslavement is voluntary and permanent, meaning they cannot leave in a few years once whatever draught or famine they are facing passes.

    These Habiru are most likely not Biblical ‘Hebrews’, they are most probably East Semitic transients who in order to survive a famine are selling themselves into slavery to avoid death. The contract for the female asserts the right to “gouge her eyes out” should she ever attempt to flee, which gives an idea of how brutal this society treated its desperately poor. It also shows that even the brutal slave-owners were fearful of the punishment they could face should the contract not contain such brutal terms in writing.

    Finkelstein / Silberman clearly show that Kadesh Barnea, the long term Exodus base camp, has never sustained a large resident population, and definitely not 600k, cities that are mentioned in the campaigns of Joshua often do not exist as population centers until the time of Josiah,

    clearly God would not tell Moses to create a common type of Iron-age idol, the Serpent Nehushtan, to save them from snake bite, each time that Moses adopts some new religious action / mandate he or his people have come into contact with surrounding religions that practice sch acts –

    The Phoenicians who practice human child sacrifice show mercy to Abraham and he soon is allegedly taking his son to a ‘high place’ such as are used for such purpose to sacrifice his own son,

    The Moses led exodus introduces circumcision of males as a indoctrination, which was the sign of an elite scribe or court attendant in the nation of Egypt – which is the state they are migrating out of,

    The massacre of the Midianite tribe, whose pagan high priest was the father in law of Moses, and who makes offering to Yahweh along with Moses, is carried out once the source of the Moses rituals is in jeopardy of being revealed to his warriors, who are sleeping with the Midianite women.

    The early stories in Genesis all root back to the Sumerians, mostly relating to EN.KI who lives in the Abyss, and were adopted by the later Egyptians, Akkadians, Babylonians and Assyrians in various forms, and later passed on to the West Semitic population.

    The war of the king from the east in Genesis is a real historical event, attested in non-Biblical accounts, which places the time of Abraham in the Sumerian Revival, which is in fact neither Sumerian or a Revival. This means that while some stories are adapted, or created, some are based in fact from the earliest book in the Torah.

    The West Semitic access to the Phoenician alphabet allows much more artistic and flowing literature and writing style to flourish, but its also places the earliest stage at which the Bible could be compiled given that the Phoenicians are not native to the Levant and we know when they arrived.

    You can make what you want of the admission of Serpent worship in the Temple, however my personal belief is that a compact or effort to help the landless, outcast and desperately poor who faced depredation from the landed societies newly developed around them, was later transfigured into a more human political purpose and codified as the will of God in its new entirety.

    • Replies: @Anon
  6. Sparrow says:

    What you hate Gilad, as I do, and as Jesus did (and still does) is indoctrination, mandatory obedience and fear to impossible rules set by man (Pharisee’s and Sadducee’s and Sanhedrin). That’s why the Father sent his Son to deliver us from ALL of it, in ALL of its manifestations. God is simple, merciful, loving, humble and righteous with endless meanings we can’t become to comprehend. He wants us to know Him…not by a Law (as Jesus fulfilled) by itself, but by knowing the Law through and by the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit). That is the miracle which gives us revelation of God our Father. But the key that opens that door is Jesus as no one can come to the Father except by Him. The Bible is the narrow path to be changed forever and no one, man or satan can take us away from Him once we are changed. I sympathize with you because I hated churches and the (man)ipulation that goes on in them. So I asked God directly, through my heart of hearts…show me the way. He came to me and saved me…One on One.
    Now I ask you…how can I get your laugh virus, because I want to catch it!!! This was a really good listen. Thank you and God Bless.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Seraphim
  7. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I understand ,, however a paper that discusses my new ideas on the topic will be out shortly ..

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse, Kali
    • Replies: @Saggy
  8. @Sparrow

    I just fI owned writing a very big piece about this .. it will be out today or tomorrow …

  9. Seraphim says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Do you really want to know what was Hitler thinking of the ‘Nordic myths’, of its proponents and their supposed role in ‘re-unifying the German people’? He said it in Mein Kampf:

    “On the contrary, it is entirely out of harmony with the spirit of the nation to keep harping on that far-off and forgotten nomenclature which belongs to the ancient Germanic times and does not awaken any distinct association in our age. This habit of borrowing words from the dead past tends to mislead the people into thinking that the external trappings of its vocabulary are the important feature of a movement. It is really a mischievous habit; but it is quite prevalent nowadays.
    At that time, and subsequently, I had to warn followers repeatedly against these wandering scholars who were peddling Germanic folk-lore and who never accomplished anything positive or practical, except to cultivate their own superabundant self-conceit. The new movement must guard itself against an influx of people whose only recommendation is their own statement that they have been fighting for these very same ideals during the last thirty or forty years.
    Nobody of common sense would appoint to a leading post in such a movement some Teutonic Methuselah who had been ineffectively preaching some idea for a period of forty years, until himself and his idea had entered the stage of senile decay.
    It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.
    I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. And yet these comedians are extremely proud of themselves. Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation”.

    His favorite Wagner’s operas were ‘The Master singers of Nuremberg’, for its medieval popular content and ‘Rienzi, the last of the tribunes’ for its revolutionary content (it had nothing whatsoever with ‘Nordic myths’). And he loved perhaps more than anything else ‘The Merry Widow’ perhaps for its ‘decadent’ Austrian content (at the bottom he remained an Austrian)!

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Ugetit
    , @Anon
    , @Gilad Atzmon
  10. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Do yourself a favor and read that book. It convincingly nails down the time that the Hebrew bible is initially compiled, and it – in a very kind way – points out some of the structure of the Torah that is inconsistent with the archaeology.

    You mean The Tanakh is horseshit when compared to the archaeology and history in the region, according to their findings.

    Finkelstein & Silberman clearly demonstrate that The Torah is complete and utter pigshit.

    • Agree: Druid
  11. Saggy says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Why don’t you summarize what you said about the holohoax. That should take no time at all.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  12. Ugetit says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    You are singing my song!

    I’ll admit that I’m in the minority, I absolutely loathe videos and audio tapes, especially ones with the stupid music. Transcripts have many advantages not the least of which is the fact that I can set my own cadence and not have to suffer through that of the author’s. I don’t know, and never will know about this vid because although I’d love to know what this author has to say, I’m not curious enough to risk being forced to sit through pointless introductions and praises, pregnant pauses, drawling speech, unnecessarily repeated points, taking forever to get to the point, etc., etc., …

    Give me a transcript any time.

  13. T. Weed says:

    I agree with those who wish for a transcript. I’ll read, but I don’t have the time or patience to watch youtube for an hour or more.

  14. Ugetit says:
    @Seraphim

    You, sir, deserve at least two gold stars!

    RU, are you listening?

  15. @SolontoCroesus

    I further suggest that the most powerful thing Iranians have going for them is unifying power of their shared myths-history, for example, in their national epic, The Shahnameh.

    USA has no such epic. Rick Atkinson seeks to make his history of USA in WWII the “American epic,” but in my view, USA in WWII is where USA went WRONG, not where it expressed its soul, spirit and values.

    Why don’t you move to Iran seek their Logos and never worry about the Jews again. Perhaps find a deep spot with the revolutionary guards, take a copy of Mien Kampf with you.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  16. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Why don’t you move to Iran seek their Logos and never worry about the Jews again.

    Perhaps find a deep spot with the revolutionary guards, take a copy of Mien Kampf with you.’

    Fran!

    You said you were leaving Gilad. You promised!

    Anyway, Iran has Jews, and please — learn to spell. It’s chow mien but Mein Kampf.

  17. @Colin Wright

    …embarrassing. It’s ‘mein’ as well in ‘chow mein.’ Oh well.

  18. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Thank you. And yet you see so many social media accounts with names like “European people” and “European future” that try to boost birth rates by appealing to ancestor worship or sun festivals or warrior ethics or the Saturnalia thingy. Then some commenter will ask something along the lines of: why are all Europeans brothers? Why do I, Frenchman, have to stick together with a German? That usually slows the conversation.

    This Europe, that dies, and doesn’t know why!

    • Replies: @Art
  19. @Colin Wright

    You said you were leaving Gilad. You promised!

    Colin, this is not about Gilad; Fran can’t pass up the chance to react to SolontoCroesus, even if the reaction makes no sense at all (par for the course).

    Must be my irresistable. er, irresistible mien.

    PS, Fran: Why don’t you Jews stop killing Iranians?

    Strikes on east Syria kill 16 Iran-backed fighters

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/monitor-strikes-east-syria-kill-114103630.html
    “Iran, a key ally of the Syrian government, is considered by Israel a regional and security threat. Israel has vowed to prevent any permanent Iranian military buildup in Syria, particularly near the frontier.”

    Iran is in Syria at the invitation of the sovereign Syrian government.
    Israel’s attacks on Syrian allies on Syrian territory are acts of aggression – war, forbidden by famous Nuremberg protocols. Remember?

    • Thanks: Robjil
    • LOL: Agent76
  20. ‘… Iran is in Syria at the invitation of the sovereign Syrian government.
    Israel’s attacks on Syrian allies on Syrian territory are acts of aggression – war, forbidden by famous Nuremberg protocols. Remember?’

    Isn’t it weird? It would be an outrage — an outrage, mind — if China or Russia or Mexico or Upper Volta or whoever carried out these continual acts of open warfare against whomever they pleased.

    We’ve reached the point where we barely notice as Israel does it — much less object.

    The thing is, too, we’ve no one to blame but ourselves. Israel started all this long ago — as long ago as 1948. At first, though, she was cautious and surreptitious. But no one objected — so she’s just kept ratcheting it up. Now she just openly bombs the enemy du jour — and no one says a word.

    • Agree: AnonStarter
  21. Gilad Atzmon is my ultimate reality check. When I think maybe I have fallen too far down the rabbit hole and my dreadful summary of world events is dark delusion, Gilad is right there with me intellectually, shoulder to shoulder, reassuring me I am not crazy. Not yet anyway.

  22. @Saggy

    Why don’t you do a bit of basic research and read what I say about the holocaust as my writing on the topic is free on the net. You can also watch my video interview with Faurisson or even spend \$9.99 and buy The Wandering Who as 3trd of this book deals with the question you seem to be struggling with..

    • Replies: @Saggy
  23. @Chris in Cackalacky

    ‘Gilad Atzmon is my ultimate reality check. When I think maybe I have fallen too far down the rabbit hole and my dreadful summary of world events is dark delusion, Gilad is right there with me intellectually, shoulder to shoulder, reassuring me I am not crazy. Not yet anyway.’

    You do realize it’s possible that it’s merely a matter of us all having fallen into the same rabbit hole?

    • Replies: @Chris in Cackalacky
  24. @Gilad Atzmon

    @Seraphim

    Not so fast, Gilad. Didn’t you say something like, “I’m not an activist, who has answers and declarations, I ask questions, then I ask deeper questions . . .”

    Seraphim raised a very interesting point and cited the most significant evidence possible — the words of the subject himself, in response to S2C’s statements:

    “the people who still have a strong sense of their culture’s myths are the people who can effectively challenge . . .”
    and
    “I suggest that Hitler re-unified the German people by calling upon the Nordic myths; he was a master of these myths from his immersion in opera and especially Wagner.”

    I concede that Hitler may not have actually “called upon the Nordic myths . . .to re-unify the German people” in his extensive rhetoric or even informal conversations.

    Indeed, Seraphim cited a passage from Mein Kampf to attack that claim, but I think it was at least partly out of context: in that section of his book, Hitler complained about hangers-on, people more eager to talk the revolution to death than to risk getting bloodied by actually “resisting terror with terror.”

    “only a fragment of all these people come into the new movement to serve it, but in most cases, under its protection or through the possibilities it offers, to warm over their old cabbage.”

    Hitler held that active, physical resistance was the only way the revolution could be successful.

    That’s the context of the “Nordic myths” statement the Seraphim argued against.
    Hitler was not really condemning the myths as such, but only those who interminably natter about such notions but fail to take actions involving actual commitment and risk.

    As to my first statement:

    “the people who still have a strong sense of their culture’s myths are the people who can effectively challenge . . .”,

    I maintain that Hitler’s world-view, his sense of himself; what Stolfi calls his “messianism” and sense of himself as a “prophet” were informed by Hitler’s immersion in Wagner and Germanic myths. Whether Hitler did or did not cite German myths or Wagnerian themes in his speeches I cannot say; I do believe they fueled the fire of Hitler’s passion for a unified, German Germany.

    Stolfi quotes Kurt Ludecke, one of the half-dozen or so men to have been “won over by Hitler’s messianic-style oratory” — Ludecke

    “agonized that he was ‘looking for the German soul, or rather the leader who would know how to re-animate it . . . and was resolved not to desert [Germany] again.’ “
    (R H S Stolfi, Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny)

    In my opinion, Ludecke’s description of Hitler puts him firmly in the camp of

    “people who still have a strong sense of their culture’s myths [and thus] are the people who can effectively challenge . . .”

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Seraphim
  25. @SolontoCroesus

    ‘… I maintain that Hitler’s world-view, his sense of himself; what Stolfi calls his “messianism” and sense of himself as a “prophet” were informed by Hitler’s immersion in Wagner and Germanic myths…’

    I’d say it all owed a lot more to the Christian concept of a Messiah than to Germanic mythology.

    See the opening frames of Triumph of the Will. The references are Christian.

    Here, ‘Leiden’ is translated as ‘suffering,’ — but I’ve also seen it translated as ‘Passion,’ –as in ‘the sixteenth year of Germany’s Passion.’

    Hitler definitely saw himself — and many Germans saw him — as a messiah, sent to bring about Germany’s resurrection. That echoes Christian theology a lot more than it does German mythology.

    My impression is that Himmler was into that Germanic mythology stuff. I’ve never seen much evidence that Hitler took it much further than liking Wagner.

  26. Art says:

    The pristine image of victimhood and the righteousness of Israel, has been breached. An Israeli document has revealed skullduggery. It will be a court document.

    The vehement Zionist Christian preacher – Paster John Hegee has been taking money directly from the Israeli government. He is not alone, there are many more.

    This is an undeniable black mark, that cannot be ignored. Zionism is coming down.

    https://www.trunews.com/stream/evangelicals-for-hire-israel-paid-u-s-christian-zionists-to-push-propaganda

    • Replies: @Art
  27. Seraphim says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Nobody would deny (I least of all) that ‘“people who still have a strong sense of their culture’s myths [and thus] are the people who can effectively challenge . . .”. Certainly Hitler had a strong sense of his German culture myths. But these were not the ‘Nordic myths’, largely a ‘reconstruction’ of a long dead ‘religion’ concocted in the crepuscular atmosphere of fin de siècle Vienna by two disaffected Catholics, Guido von List (most likely the ‘Methuselah’ derided by Hitler) and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels, and variously named Wotanism, Arioshophy, Armanism, replete with ‘esoteric’ lore and Viennese ‘anti-semitism’, with the aim “to awaken German nationalist consciousness”. Hitler banned all their manifestations once in power.
    Hitler’s nationalism was of the ‘classical’ kind, rather pedestrian, chauvinistic, ‘Blood and Soil’ (with its economic connotations – defense of a basically agrarian society against the depredations of usurers), peasant (völkisch) culture as the depository of the ‘genius’ of the people, work (the Party was a party of Workers), military valor (his heroes were Friedrich der Grosse and Ludendorff). He was not looking further back than the ‘Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation’.
    As I said, Hitler ‘woke up’, so to speak, to Wagner through ‘Rienzi’, the story of the botched attempt to reviving the Roman Empire, by the Italian medieval politician and popular leader, who styled himself as “tribune of the Roman people”, Nicola Gabrini, aka Cola di Rienzo (1313-1354) who became a hero of the Risorgimento and of the liberal nationalists (even Friedrich Engels wrote a libretto for a ‘Rienzi’ opera). We have a record of this moment in the book of his friend August Kubizek ‘The Young Hitler I Knew’:
    “I felt as though he himself listened with astonishment and emotion to what burst forth from him with elementary force. I will not attempt to interpret this phenomenon, but it was a state of complete ecstasy and rapture, in which he transferred the character of Rienzi, without even mentioning him as a model or example, with visionary power to the plane of his own ambitions. But it was more than a cheap adaptation. Indeed, the impact of the opera was rather a sheer external impulse which compelled him to speak. Like flood waters breaking their dikes, his words burst forth from him. He conjured up in grandiose, inspiring pictures his own future and that of his people…
    In 1939, shortly before war broke out, when I, for the first time visited Bayreuth as the guest of the Reichs Chancellor, I thought I would please my host by reminding him of that nocturnal hour on the Freinberg, so I told Adolf Hitler what I remembered of it, assuming that the enormous multitude of impressions and events which had filled these past decades would have pushed into the background the experience of a seventeen year old youth. But after a few words I sensed that he vividly recalled that hour and had retained all its details in his memory. He was visibly pleased that my account confirmed his own recollections. I was also present when Adolf Hitler retold this sequel to the performance of Rienzi in Linz to Frau Wagner, at whose home we were both guests. Thus my own memory was doubly confirmed. The words with which Hitler concluded his story to Frau Wagner are also unforgettable for me. He said solemnly, “In that hour it began.”
    The ‘Nuremberg Parteifeste’ were opened by a performance of the overture of ‘Rienzi’ and not by the ‘Ride of the Walkyries’. And of Wagner the preference was for “Die Meistersinger”, “the most German of all operas”, as the ”incarnation of our Volkstum”, representing “everything that marks and fills the German soul”. Nuremberg was chosen as the hallow ground of Nazi spectacles because of its German medieval character.
    Wagner’s operas were less performed in Germany than Puccini’s, Bizet’s, Verdi’s and the… ‘Merry Widow’ (for which Hitler had a veritable obsession). There is anecdotal evidence (perfectly credible) that even Nazi dignitaries were falling asleep at the performances of the ‘Ring’, limited to the Bayreuth Festival anyway.

    • Thanks: SolontoCroesus
  28. Seraphim says:
    @Sparrow

    The Christ liberated us of the burden of the system of works that the Pharisees laid on the backs of the people (“They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger”), but still He put on us a ‘yoke and a burden’: “Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
    And he gave us commandments through the Apostles:
    ” All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen” (Matthew 28:18-20).
    “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3).
    He commands us to pray:
    “when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. 7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking” (Matthew 6:5-7).
    He commands us to fast:
    “when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face; 18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly” (Matthew 6:16-18).
    He commands us to do alms:
    “Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: 4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly (Matthew 6:1-4).
    He commands us to love our enemies:
    “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect” (Matthew 6:44-48).
    He commands us to sacrifice:
    “if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift” (Matthew 6:23-24).
    “And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you” (Luke 22:19-20).
    Sacrifices are done in the Church, by the priests “clothed with power from on high” the Holy Spirit. Hating the Church founded by the Christ is hating also his commandments and the Holy Spirit.

  29. @Gilad Atzmon

    Thanks for the invite to the Pantheon. But as a once atheistic Catholic, I have finally found peace (and explanation for our crazy world) with Jesus Christ. Face it Gilad, nothing defines Jewishness like rejection of Jesus Christ. Maybe you overlooked that facet in ‘The Wandering Who.’ If the powers that should not be are the spiritual descendants of those who crucified Jesus Christ, then maybe He is the real deal. You expressed admiration in your interview. You are a smart guy.

  30. @Colin Wright

    The best explanation of ‘reality’ that I ever heard is that it is a consensus of intelligent minds. Therefore the rabbit hole is the reality.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  31. Art says:
    @Anon

    This Europe, that dies, and doesn’t know why!

    In the last 250 years, Europeans have evolved into being primarily an intellectual species – as opposed to being biologically driven and tribal. The Earth is currently dominated by Western knowledge. In the last 50 years the evolution has occurred mostly with women. Western women want to be part of the Western male intellectual game. Children and family are not everything to these women. They demand to be part of commerce and intellectual culture.

    The same thing is happening with Asian cultures. The age of 1 & 2 children per woman is with us. Marriage itself is in question.

  32. Saggy says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I know what you have said, and that’s why I point out that you consistently promote the holohoax. Here is my comment on your recent article ‘The Last Zionist’ –

    A Jew who lies about the holohoax is part of the problem. Quoting the article

    In his conclusive work on the Holocaust, Jewish historian David Cesarani delved …

    As Jewish history in general and the holocaust in particular prove, it may be the most dangerous path Jews can take., ….

    It is reasonable to assume that many Jews do not know or understand their own history and instead concentrate, if at all, on Jewish suffering (the holocaust, the inquisition, …

    Atzmon played the holohoax card 3 times in one article.

  33. Art says:
    @Art

    The vehement Zionist Christian preacher – Paster John Hegee has been taking money directly from the Israeli government. He is not alone, there are many more.

    U.S. pro-Israel groups failed to disclose grants from Israeli government

    …. …. ….

    The Israeli government’s gifts to pro-Israel American entities — including more than \$1 million each to Christians United for Israel and Aish Hatorah’s Hasbara Fellowships — were publicly unknown until the last few weeks, after a politician not from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s party took over the ministry and dropped its longstanding stance against releasing its public records.

    …. …. …

    But documents also suggest that some of those trips included instructions for pro-Israel advocacy back home — in statehouses and on college campuses — which legal experts say may expose not just the recipient groups but also anyone who went on their trips to fines and even prosecution for violating disclosure rules.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55541.htm

    • Thanks: Robjil
    • Replies: @Art
  34. Art says:
    @Art

    The vehement Zionist Christian preacher – Paster John Hegee has been taking money directly from the Israeli government. He is not alone, there are many more.

    U.S. pro-Israel groups failed to disclose grants from Israeli government

    …. …. ….

    The Israeli government’s gifts to pro-Israel American entities — including more than \$1 million each to Christians United for Israel and Aish Hatorah’s Hasbara Fellowships — were publicly unknown until the last few weeks, after a politician not from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s party took over the ministry and dropped its longstanding stance against releasing its public records.

    Pay for play!

    Christian Zionism is through as a moral force in American politics. It takes money from a foreign country – Israel. It uses that money to advocate for US wars. What they are doing may or may not be against the US law – but it is 100% against human morality. Pay for play the leads to war is on the top of the list of human evils.

    By virtue of their endless immoral trouble making actions, Zionism and Israel are illegitimate entities. What the UN created – the UN can undo.

    Christian Zionism is illegitimate – Israel is illegitimate – the JQ jumps out and glares!

  35. ariadna says:
    @Chris in Cackalacky

    Another definition of consensus is “Billions of flies cannot be wrong. Eat shit!”

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  36. @ariadna

    I have never heard that but I don’t think flies have intelligent minds, therefore there is no consensus among them. Flies each shit because of “in stink.’ Lol!

    • Replies: @ariadna
  37. ariadna says:
    @Chris in Cackalacky

    I have heard that individuals forming some cohesive groups that arrive at some consensus (occasionally unanimous) have intelligent minds but I have rarely seen any convincing proof.

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