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If Israelis are confused by the fact that their government treats them like laboratory pets, if they wonder why their freedom to travel, to socialise or even earn a living have evaporated, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla produced a genuine answer yesterday. In an interview on NBC Bourla said:

“I believe Israel has become the world’s lab right now because they are using only our vaccine at this state and they have vaccinated a very big part of their population, so we can study both economy and health indices.”

I have no issue with medical experiments involving humans if the participants are fully aware of all possible circumstances and considerations involved in their consent. This didn’t happen in Israel. By means of ‘green passports,’ the government practically threatens to penalise anyone reluctant to participate in a ‘lab’ experiment for a giant pharmaceutical company with a very problematic record.

The results of this Pfizer-Israeli experiment aren’t necessarily encouraging. Though it may be possible, as some studies suggest, that most vaccinated people have at least short-term protection from Covid-19, no one can deny the astonishing fact that in just 8 weeks of mass vaccination the total number of Covid-19 deaths in the Jewish State almost doubled from the number accumulated in the prior ten months.

Since Israel morphed into a nation of Guinea pigs, a virus that used to prey on the elderly and those with severe health issues has now changed its nature completely. After just 2 months of a ‘successful’ mass vaccination campaign, 76% of new Covid-19 cases are under 39. Only 5.5% are over 60. 40% of critical patients are under 60. The country has also detected a sharp rise in Covid-19 cases amongst pregnant women, with m ore than a few in critical condition. In the last few weeks, new-born Covid-19 cases saw a large 1300% spike (from 400 cases in under two-year-olds on November 20 to 5,800 in February 2021).

The evidence collected in Israel points at a close correlation between mass vaccination, cases and deaths. This correlation points at the possibility that it is the vaccinated who actually spread the virus or even a range of mutants that are responsible for the radical shift in symptoms above.

When CEO Bourla was asked by NBC whether one could infect others after receiving two doses of the vaccine, Bourla admitted:

“It is something that needs to be confirmed, and the real-world data that we are getting from Israel and other studies will help us understand this better.”

If CEO Bourla isn’t sure whether his ‘vaccine’ prevents the spreading of the disease, why is he selling it around the world? Why should any government allow this substance being used until all necessary precautions have been taken? Furthermore, in the light of the emerging concern that the vaccinated can spread the disease (which CEO Bourla doesn’t deny), what is the meaning of the ‘green passport’? I guess that such a document could be easily replaced by a ‘gullible certificate’ awarded to those who were foolish enough to turn themselves in.

But Bourla doesn’t have to wait much longer for the ‘results’ from his ‘lab.’ I can provide him with the most relevant numbers assuming that either he or anyone else in Pfizer can read basic graphs. Every country that fell into the mass-vaccination trap has seen a similar unprecedented spike in cases and death.

The following collection graphs point at the undeniable correlation between mass vaccination and an exponential surge in Covid-19 cases and deaths. The spike in cases is often detected just 2-3 days after the launch of the mass vaccination campaign.

At the time Israel vaccinated itself, it was witnessing a sharp exponential rise in morbidity and death. Palestine, literally the same land, saw its number of cases and deaths plummeting

Bourla and PM Netanyahu should make an intellectual effort and explain to us how it’s possible that in Gaza, an open-air prison and one of the most densely populated pieces of land on this planet, the numbers of Covid-19 cases are minimal and without a ‘vaccine.’

But Palestine is not alone, as the situation in Jordan is similar. While Israel saw its Covid-19 death figures breaking through the roof, Jordan’s Covid-19 deaths from mid-November onwards look like a slippery slope.

Britain went through a similar, if not identical, tragic experience. It launched a mass vaccination campaign on 7 December just to see its numbers of Covid-19 cases and deaths rising like never before.

At the time, Britain saw its NHS crumbling, while the kingdom’s neighbours that were slow to make a decision on vaccination saw their Covid-19 numbers dropping rapidly.

I am obviously not the only one who sees that something went dramatically wrong in Israel. A group of dissenting researchers who looked into the numbers involved with the current Pfizer Israeli experiment published a detailed study two week ago. “We conclude” they wrote, “that the Pfizer vaccines, for the elderly, killed during the 5-week vaccination period about 40 times more people than the disease itself would have killed, and about 260 times more people than the disease among the younger age class.”

Based on the Pfizer/Israeli ‘laboratory’ experiment, I drew the following sarcastic conclusion: If you catch coronavirus you may die, but if you follow the Pfizer path, not only do you have a 95% chance to survive on top of the 99.98% provided by Covid-19, you may also kill some other people on the way.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Wyatt says:

    Even the Jewish government acts like a bunch of Jews toward their Jewish constituency!

    XD

    • Replies: @Fr. John
    , @Gilad Atzmon
  2. Zumbuddi says:

    Tl;dnt

    Isn’t the Pfizer vaccine lab run out of Germany?

    Rache der Deutschen

    LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.

    • Replies: @Donald A Thomson
  3. Fr. John says:
    @Wyatt

    I couldn’t have said it any better.

    And, apologizing to Mr. Atzmon- but- (((they))) deserve any evil that comes their way. Deicide can do that to a race….

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  4. How can we rely on official reports that Israelis are receiving the same vaccine administered in other parts of the world? We cannot. We’ve heard the warning not to believe anything until it has been officially denied. The corollary should be you know it’s a lie when it has been officially confirmed. Is the Israeli public stupid enough to roll up its sleeve to untested poison? With the six gorillion always in mind, we should assume ‘No.’

    • Agree: John Q Duped
  5. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Since Israel morphed into a nation of Guinea pigs, a virus that used to prey on the elderly and those with severe health issues has now changed its nature completely. After just 2 months of a ‘successful’ mass vaccination campaign, 76% of new Covid-19 cases are under 39. Only 5.5% are over 60. 40% of critical patients are under 60. The country has also detected a sharp rise in Covid-19 cases amongst pregnant women, with m ore than a few in critical condition. In the last few weeks, new-born Covid-19 cases saw a large 1300% spike (from 400 cases in under two-year-olds on November 20 to 5,800 in February 2021).

    Jews are conditioned/programmed to shut their mouths and make themselves Guinea pigs for the rabbis, who are clearly insane. Americans, too, have been increasingly programmed to shut their mouths and make themselves Guinea pigs for the elite, which is more and more Jewish. This follows Britain’s trend.

    In short, the Zionist Anglosphere has increasingly rejected the precepts of the West which are/were based on facts and science, and followed the Jews down into their superstitious and fabulist rathole, where all that matters is the rabbinical narrative.

    This is the result of the early 20th Century Jewish banker infiltration of Russia (Bolsheviks), Britain and the US, which was a project that started much earlier.

    To the extent that Jews/rabbis “won” WW2, we are being steered by a cabal of insane psychopaths, and it’s finally showing up bigly.

  6. Skeptikal says:

    There is something to this point.

    You would think that Israelis would by nature and indoctrination be cautious about untested treatments and becoming unwitting guinea pigs in an “experiment.”

    OTOH it looks like they have been put under extreme pressure to get with the program.

    It could also be posited that this pressure to get with the program and obedience to it is not a break with past mentalities but a continuation of living under pressure to live with other narratives that justify their and their state’s existence. In particular the narrative of superiority over Arabs, of having a right to the land of Palestine, to feeling victimized by their victims, etc.

    Once you get into the habit of abeing indoctrinated, where does this stop? Have the Israelis been raised to engage in critical thinking and questioning authority? Seems like the more fascistic government policy has become toward the Palestinians, the more the Israeli public has in fact swallowed ridiculous ideas and the whole country has swung far to the right.

    So, questioning the intentions of the government now in the covid-19 context would be far down the scale of questioning the govt. in the context of other policies and narratives that on the face of it are far more worthy of questioning.

  7. Alfred says:

    Thank you Gilad. Just as I expected.

    Here is my comment in the “Vaccination Procrastination” article by J. Thompson.

    The ongoing experience of Israel is so out-of-line. It would seem that the vaccines are somehow to blame. I doubt very much if the Palestinian population – which has avoided vaccination – is suffering to the same degree. An imperfect, but highly-significant, double-blind experiment.

    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/vaccination-procrastination/#comment-4494291

  8. Kumbaresu says:

    The evidence collected in Israel points at a close correlation between mass vaccination, cases and deaths. This correlation points at the possibility that it is the vaccinated who actually spread the virus or even a range of mutants that are responsible for the radical shift in symptoms above.

    Apparently, the pandemic that started as a hoax is turning into a real one due to mass vaccinations. At this point the 65,000,000 deaths figure quoted at the Event 201 (high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY) looks like a very reasonable estimate which can be easily exceeded. Due to high number of casualties the authorities around the world in partnership with the media will ramp up the mass hysteria and the case for mandatory vaccinations will made. People who refuse to obey will be intimidated, harassed and assaulted by their own brainwashed neighbors. Since Israel is leading the pack this scenario should unfold there sooner rather than later.

    Please, tell me that I am dead wrong, I will be happy to hear that.

    • Agree: Alfred, Adam Smith, Getaclue
  9. Them poor Yewzz is bein’ Shoadd again, again by Neo Nazi Germanzzz. Oi Veh!
    Do I believe what the Isreilli/ Zionists,Zio, owned MSM tell me? Of course I do, as I am obliged under pain of prison to believe what these ugly, inbred, psychopathic freaks tell me I must believe.
    This is why, I never ever go to Adam Green’s Know More News site.

    • Replies: @James Macey
  10. @Wyatt

    Of course,,, The law of the Ghetto for you…

  11. unit472 says:

    It makes sense that as older Israelis were vaccinated first the average age of newly infected people would become decline as would the average age of those hospitalized. It doesn’t explain the surge in deaths or why previously ‘immune’ populations would see an absolute increase in cases.

    To this layman that points to something else. A more virulent version of the virus that the vaccine can still resist but unvaccinated immune systems cannot.

    • Replies: @Peg B
  12. Nancy says:

    Has Israel reduced it’s PCR test cycle threshold to approx. 30, yet, as was advised in Jan, by major medical ‘authorities’ ? Also, is it using Ivermectin at the first sign/possibility of the diseaose (or the ‘mutant’) , as was recently, in Jan, allowed in the U.S. ? I hope some savvy Israeli medicos are collecting the numbers…

    • Replies: @Gardengate
  13. If goats and fruits test positive for covid in Tanzania why shouldn’t Jews in Isra-hell test positive too ?
    Still no info on how many goats and fruits have died so far however but a good dose of Pfizer virus bits,heavy metals and dead fetal material should push them over the edge for sure.

    • Thanks: Ugetit
    • LOL: Zumbuddi
  14. dearieme says:

    I will be interested to see an explanation for the death rates. However:

    If CEO Bourla isn’t sure whether his ‘vaccine’ prevents the spreading of the disease, why is he selling it around the world? In the expectation that it will prevent deaths from Covid-19 , and even hospitalisations, of those who have been vaccinated.

    Why should any government allow this substance being used until all necessary precautions have been taken? Because the matter is assumed to be urgent. That is to say, it is assumed that if you wait ten years there will have been huge numbers of needless deaths.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  15. Kumbaresu says:

    If goats and fruits test positive for covid in Tanzania why shouldn’t Jews in Isra-hell test positive too ?

    Wait a minute! It this is the case then eating goat stew followed by fruit desert will qualify as a double vaccination against COVID-19! My mouth is already watering! May I have a second helping, please! When you say goats and fruits you don’t mean Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci, do you?

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  16. Peg B says: • Website
    @unit472

    You said, “To this layman that points to something else. A more virulent version of the virus that the vaccine can still resist but unvaccinated immune systems cannot.”

    I think you have this backwards. Modern vaccines compromise immune systems. That’s wny vaccine inserts advise, or used to, against vaccinating sick people or pets.

    In any case, the exact contents of the “vaccine” remain undisclosed. The stew of toxins, cancer cells, proteins, chemical synergists, genetic material and other substances need to be taken into consideration.

    So far, Covid has not been proven to exist, which medical journalist Jon Rappoport explains in detail, including why diagnostic tests are useless. Assuming a more “virulent” virus is interesting but doesn’t begin to tell us what agents, including what virus, is being injected.

  17. Skeptikal says:
    @Kumbaresu

    I want to see Fauci, Gates, ,Melinda, Berx, the CEOs of Moderna, Pfizer, Netanyahu and the WHO guy all get shots. Not enough to show a video: We need a double-blind RCT study to PROVE that they actually got mRNA shots, not placebos for them and their Oscar “getting a jab” performances.

    Then we have webcams pointed at them 24/7 for three weeks or so to see what really happens.

    For entertainment they can watch The Madwoman of Chaillot the whole time.

  18. roonaldo says:

    That the vaccinated can efficiently infect the unvaccinated was seen with Marek’s disease in chickens. A pbs.org article of Jul 27, 2015 by Nsikan Akpan summed up a report in PLOS Biology.

    Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick, and scientists now think the vaccine helps the virus to become uniquely virulent. This is the first time virus boosting of a “leaky” vaccine (the imperfect vaccine hypothesis) has been observed experimentally, according to the report. A “perfect vaccine,” by contrast, provides lifelong immunity and blocks infection and transmission.

    Vaccinated and unvaccinated chickens were exposed to five Marek’s strains of varying lethality. The “hottest” strain killed all the unvaccinated birds within ten days, which shed very little virus. Eighty percent of vaccinated birds exposed to the hottest strain lived over two months and shed 10,000 times more virus than unvaccinated birds. The virus achieved an evolutionary future it didn’t have before.

    In a second experiment, vaccinated and unvaccinated birds were infected with a middle-of-the-road Marek’s variant and placed amongst unvaccinated birds (sentinels). Sentinels placed amongst the infected, vaccinated birds became infected nine days sooner and died faster than sentinels placed with the infected, unvaccinated birds.

    James Bull, of the U of Texas at Austin, who specializes in the evolution of viruses and bacteria, said “There is a lot we don’t know about how the scenario with Marek’s could apply to human vaccines,” and mentioned the need to monitor either a large or isolated population for a considerable time to aid our understanding.

    • Thanks: Alfred, Ilya G Poimandres
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Anon
  19. Kumbaresu says:

    If this pandemic is an exercise it is worth noting that sometimes cruel experiments don’t go as planned and some actors involved can get a taste of their own medicine.

    https://www.rt.com/news/516763-fighting-cock-appear-court-india/

  20. Any suggestion that “israelis” or Jews are rats is to be viewed with opprobrium.

    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
    , @Anonymous
  21. Kumbaresu says:
    @Badger Down

    What is opprobrium? Can you get it without a prescription? Is it safe to take at bedtime?

  22. https://www.theepochtimes.com/south-dakota-gov-noem-covid-didnt-crush-the-economy-government-did_3714028.html?utm_source=pushengage

    South Dakota Gov. Noem: COVID Didn’t Crush the Economy, Government Did
    BY IVAN PENTCHOUKOV February 27, 2021 Updated: February 27, 2021

    ORLANDO—South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) told the audience at an annual conservative conference on Feb. 27 that lockdowns and other restrictions imposed by state and local governments were to blame for the economic crash in 2020, not the pandemic which they were intended to snuff out…….

    Noem said that Anthony Fauci, one of the lead members of Trump’s White House Coronavirus Task Force, told her that South Dakota’s hospitals would be treating 10,000 patients at the worst point of the pandemic. She said the number was actually 600 patients at the worst point.

    “I don’t know if you agree with me, but Dr. Fauci is wrong a lot,” Noem said, drawing raucous cheers from the crowd.

    “Even in a pandemic, public health policy needs to take into account people’s economic and social well-being,” she added. “People need to keep a roof over their heads, they need to feed their families, and they need their dignity.”

    “In my administration, we resisted the call for virus control at the expense of everything else. We looked at the science, the data, and the facts, and then we took a balanced approach.”

    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
  23. Israeli Police and Israeli government attacks have escalated against Ultra-Orthadox Haredi Jews, who are now wearing yellow stars on their jackets and calling the police chief Hitler, it is getting violent in Israel, who has the most aggressive vaccine program. Haredis oppose all of the scamdemic. Notoriously pro Israeli, and notoriously anti-anti-semetic, is sounding extremely anti-Semetic, CNN and so is the Israeli government. They are mad at them for being opposed to the military, not serving in it, and being religious scholars living in poverty, as opposed to the religion of Wall Street, war, corruption, and pathological gambling, and pathological bail outs. From what little I know about this, the Hardeis have my vote on being right! Oh, they also do not believe that Israel exists, or is a Jewish state, and that is an extremely honorable war for justice and truth, which takes a lot more balls to fight than some ass hole swinging a rifle! 

    Shown here:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/middleeast/israel-ultra-orthodox-coronavirus-intl/index.html

    Andrea Iravani

    • Agree: Alfred
  24. @Tony Ryals

    Next time she runs for Governor (if she does) she’ll probably lose in a major upset by a razor-thin margin to a newby candidate from out of the ‘blue’, who loves Israel and forever wars for their benefit, worships Fauci and the CDC, and the election will be called ‘the cleanest in the history of South Dakota’.

    Like in Georgia’s Senate race with Jon Ossoff, a nice jewish boy who, according to the Jewish Virtual Library, is “committed to Israel’s security as a homeland for the Jewish people”, “supports military aid to Israel”, and “opposes BDS”, and also strongly supports Fauci, vaccinations and the CDC, all of which obviously endeared him to the black voters in Georgia so much so that they came out in droves to support him, thereby affording him a razor-thin upset victory. Again, in the cleanest election in the history of the known universe…….

  25. Getaclue says:
    @dearieme

    “matter is assumed to be urgent” — the survival rate of those infected, even on the CDC bogus/inflated death numbers is in excess of 99.7% and those dying are stated to generally have 2 or more
    co-morbidities — LOL — the “urgency” seems to be all about something other than Public Health — perhaps the NWO Great Reset Agenda?

  26. People commenting here with anti-Jewish remarks should be ashamed. People in Israel are being abused just like in America. Nobody should trust these “vaccines” at all. The elite wants us all hurt.

  27. @dearieme

    You can watch the graphs in the piece .. the numbers of death in mass vaccinated countries surged exponentially .. so no, the vaccine didn’t stop death, it actually increased it significantly: up to 40 times according to one of the Israeli researchers I quote in the piece ..

    • Replies: @israel shamir
  28. @Fr. John

    Let’s see-some years ago I read that a Zionazi worthy, could have been Bronfman, but I’m not sure, declared that Hitler’s real crime was not genocide, but deicide, because the Jews are God. They’ve Memory Holed that completely, of course-too honest.

  29. @Chris Moore

    The dementia of the Six Eyes (Five Eyes plus Israel)can be seen in the deranged hatred of China. That Five colonial powers who either committed REAL genocides while settling the land, or oversaw numerous such massacres in their Imperial aggressions, and a country. the victim of genocide, and the imposer of one on the Palestinians, could level the genocide accusation, entirely false and fabricated out of thin air, against China, the victim of English aggression and mass murder, is Evil, but not beyond belief for these thugs. All we need is for the puppet Japanese regime, genocidists par excellence in China, to join the fray, and some sort of Peak Evil will have been achieved.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  30. @Reverend Goody

    I assume that most commenters spewing hatred at ALL Jews, and not just the criminal Jewish and Zionazi elites, are likely to be Zionazis trying to bring the site, and other contributors, into disrepute.

    • Replies: @Tonypoo
  31. Steven80 says:

    So the question is what do the authorities there know, that we don’t? Maybe someone’s going to release a new stronger strain, and the ones that’ve been vaccinated will have better chances of survival? Any suggestion why is it done (apart from the obvious – demented politicians, bad medical advice etc)? My bets are:

    1)Fear from biologial warfare – make the polupation ready to accept this jabs as something regular and ordinary, and be accustomed to quarantine quickly and keep distance, because tomorrow someone (Chinese, Russians, Iranians etc) may release something really nasty that will wipe out more people.

    2) Introduce a mandatory Vaccination passport, that will allow people to travel/do business as usual. The passport will need everyone to get vaccinated against certain diseases – most of them common and necessary, like measles, influenza etc. But some of the newly introduced vaccines will have mRna that will alter person’s DNA and will make them more tame/smart/obedient etc. Same proces as with media manipulation – add nastry jabs among some good ones so people beleive it is true/for their own good. The vaccines must be designed so that the effects show up not immediately, but after few years.

    Then some countries will get mRna that will make them sterile (Africa, for example), while others (Israel, for example) will get vaccines that will make people smarter. Vaccines will be made in the usual suspect countries – US, UK, Israel, to controll the process.

    I know it sounds crazy, but if you are demented billionaire or silly politician, that thinks can controll such process, wouldn’t you try to “improve” society in a similar way?

    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
  32. @Reverend Goody

    Wrong! Do you hear Jews speaking out against the Covid fraud and the poison vaccine? No. If there were no Jews, there would be no plandemic, world wars, economic instability, usury, faggotry, etc….etc.

  33. Dumbo says:

    Well the whole world is a lab at this point. And we can see only the immediate effects.

    We have no idea of the long-term effects of this mRNA treatment in 5, 10, 20 years.

    • Agree: Steven80
  34. @Nancy

    Savvy Israeli medicos are speaking up and losing their licenses.

  35. Skeptikal says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    ” against China, the victim of English aggression and mass murder, is Evil, but not beyond belief for these thugs”

    Conveniently forgotten: the role of Baghdadi Jews in the Opium Wars, which brought China to its knees.

    An article in the current issue of the London Review of Books also conveniently labels the Rothschilds and their ilk as “businessmen”—steering a wide berth around the role of the Rs and other top-level Jews as bankers who financed wars starting in 18th-century Hesse.

    Interestingly this writer, Abigail Green, also states that the “first” Rothschild, Meyer, dealt in “antiquities.” I have read that he actually dealt in coins–that is, precious metals.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  36. anonymous[373] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey watch your step, talkin about the Izzie Mengeles of Modernastan. We just learned why Khashoggi got sawed up – it was for violating the premodern blasphemy laws of the established Jewish State religion.

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/the-antisemitic-tweets-of-murdered-saudi-writer-jamal-khashoggi-586820

    The Izzie puppet rulers sawed him up even though his blasphemy was mealymouthed and not even funny.

  37. Skeptikal says:
    @anonymous

    Just read the linked article.

    What is funny (and I mean funny-ha ha) is how reasonable and moderate Kashoggi’s views sound, as described by the newspaper. To my ear the idea that such utterances and Tweets count as anti-semitism of course degrades the paper—it’s a propaganda outlet. And they do imply that Kashoggi deserved to die because of his opinions and tweets.

    E.g., “said Jews had no roots in historical Palestine, that one must know how to speak to Jews when meeting them, and that Jews were conspiring to divide al-Aqsa Mosque. The tweets, still online as of April 14, show a pattern of anti-Jewish views.”

    Perfectly reasonable observations, especially that one must know how to speak to Jews when meeting them. Look at what might happen if you rub us the wrong way!! The whole article could be read as an implied threat.

    RE “It is now clear that his views on Israel were deeply entwined with his negative views of Jews, and that he harbored traditional antisemitic and conspiratorial opinions. A survey of his tweets in Arabic reveals his worldview, as it developed over time. ”

    This is an absurd statement. Why would “traditional antisemitic and conspiratorial opinions” develop over time? Ideas that develop over time generally are the result of observing reality and thinking about what one has observed. How can “opinions” be “conspiratorial”?

    The whole piece is worth reading as an example of the technique of taking anodyne, reasonable statements by K and using them to conduct arguments with the dead man, using tropes such as that K “would have been familiar” with some issue. Plus, the article actually is evidence for a number of the “conspiratorial” opinions ascribed to K.

    The whole article is scurrilous.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  38. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    “The evidence collected in Israel points at a close correlation between mass vaccination, cases and deaths. “

    As everyone knows: a) Pfizer vaccine doesn’t not contain any piece of the virus b) correlation is not causation.

    What would be THE MECHANISM wherein the vaccine triggers the disease?

    Mind you, I’m not closed against finding the link. I just don’t see it.

    Other explanations: vaccination process was a source of contagion, and the vaccine itself made the recipient much more likely to develop a virulent case. This could be remedied by vaccinating first the personnel involved, waiting a couple of weeks and then proceeding with the vaccination process.

    • Replies: @Anon
  39. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Another possible explanation:

    Pfizer vaccine was made for original Covid19 genome (Wuhan), but the current Israel epidemic is another variant (say 70% UK and 30% South Africa), against which Pfizer vaccine doesn’t offer protection but (perhaps) worsens the virulence.

  40. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @roonaldo

    Well, Didier Raoult, the face of french medical resistance has a few thoughts about the effects of experimental treatments and vaccines on virus behaviour. His hospital has treated 11,000 plus ambulatory Covid patients and 2,500 hospitalized patients with ridiculously low mortality rates.

    Didier Raoult
    9 feb 2020
    “Not the class dunce and not a weathervane”

    [MORE]

    Q= How does the Covid epidemic evolve today and which are the big determinants of the evolution?

    A = The first thing we have to understand is something the people in charge seem not to have understood, the virus is a living thing, it is not something in a videogame. It moves and changes, so I have heard surprising words that a virus doesn’t change, and I have had that explained to me by people who have never done a genome. So, a virus changes, given two factors: one, what we call “selection pressure”, which means that if you direct a specific weapon against the virus, it will change to avoid precisely that which you are targeting (acharné). So here we have targeted a protein called “the spike”, generating a lot of mutations on the spike. The virus is defending the spike, what we call the theory of (¿?) red, that is to say, there is a competition between living things and those who survive are those that have found a way to develop in spite of the arms that have been developed against them.

    You know well we have not made the staphilocochus disappear with antibiotics, because the staphilocochus have changed and find …. Like staphylocochus.. It’s easier to do away with mammals than viruses. This basic notion we have known for one hundred years has been forgotten. The living change, like the grippe, like the grippe vaccine, inmunity against older mutants is not as good as for newer ones, which is probably what is happening in South Africa. The Astra Zeneca vaccine for the first covid19 spike (Wuhan) is not as effective against South Africa mutation.. we have it in France, in Marseille it came through Maghreb, Tunisie, was detected at the airport. Today we have had more than 500 mutations, including the UK mutant, within which about a third comprehend south african and brazilian mutants. So they escape the AZ vaccine. I hope the minister who had the AZ vaccine does not come to the streets of Marseille, because he is not protected.

    Thus, the weapon we have in this vaccine are relative, they are not weapons of mass destruction. It’s like this. We have done stupid things, normal in this international craziness. There’s been an international stupidity in absolutely wanting to innovate in the middle of a crisis, on things that had never been tested before. It’s a mistake, sometimes it can work, in the case of remdesivir it is truly truly a mistake. A group that directs research in this country wants to continue directing the research in spite of the incredible succession of mistakes. Obstination in pushing remdesivir, in particular in France. I agree with my colleague Segolene Royal that it will be necessary at some point to have an inquest in Europe around what happened with remdesivir, because we knew beforehand it didn`t work, we bought billions when we knew it didn`t work and we distributed it when we knew it didn´t work. And not only that, but there are complications at least in perfussion (¿?) and in addition it generates extra mutations (surmutation) in patients who receive it and who have it for a certain time.

    So, if you want to have mutations you need: one, a virus that develops very quickly, which was probably the case of the mink farms epidemics; two, if you add selection pressures, that is you add antibodies and vaccines specifically against one protein you will generate mutations, three, if you use a medication that favors mutations, that is a mutagene.

    Marseille has been very picky with remdesivir, perhaps because of me, but there were three patients in all that received remdesivir. Two were dead quickly, we couldn’t save them. The third lived a bit longer, he was inmunocompromised and then he died. We did the sequencing, so there were at least 10 mutations that appeared in the association of remdesivir and antibodies injected. That’s the same thing that was published in the New England (Journal of Med). There are two other papers coming out now. These medications in inmunocompromised people bring about a selection pressure and mutations that we don’t know the future characteristics. It is being a socerer’s apprentice to use medications we don’t understand with indications we don’t understand (on connait pas), particularly when we lack firmness to stop when we see it does not work.

    This persistence, this perseverance in this country in particular as regards remdesivir is a mistake.

    Q= How is France doing in regard to the response to the epidemic?

    A= More or less, globally speaking, –because I have not been the class dunce—on the different measures taken, we have been at the end of the line. Last to make systematic testing, just little groups. People have brutally questioned if genomes work, why genomes work. But one, if you want to find mutations for the vaccine, and for the target protein, you must do sequencing of genomes. (8:10) If you want to avoid treatment failures, like remdesivir.. like Gayla(¿?) and (¿?), they have done treatments without any comparisons. We were targeted because our study was not ramdomized, but we at least could compare a group of sick people that were treated with another that was not. They did not compare with anything, and also they did not analyze the virus that was left at the end of treatment, and we must needs analyze the remaining viruses, because they resist treatment for a reason, and that reasons is often because of mutations.

    Both remdesivir and the antibodies obtained by plasma (undistinguishable name ¿?) select and bring about mutations. That work has not been done. There’s a lack of science, we are excited about the methodology, and it is basic science that is lacking in this country.

    We have done treatment trials, without evaluating in particular the consequences for the virus. Also we have not done genomes, I have done them and people said it gained nothing because there are no mutations,.. and we have finished by remarking that (show chart in english 9:32) there is a dispersión in number of genomes per 100 persons in Europe that is remarkable, we (IHU Marseille) are in the 3-4 groups that have done most genomes in the world. France without us is here below the median of Africa. There’s a problem, it is not us. We (France) are late in testing, in hospitalizing, in using technology to detect serious cases, in taking care of patients (saying go stay at home and take analgesic) and we are late in sequencing genomes to detect variants that eventually are going to resist treatments and resist vaccinations.. we are being witness to the epidemic.

    We (IHU Mediterranee) have done the work. We are not particularly scared about the UK mutation (shows chart, min 11), we have marked the UK in red and separated the South African variant, that then represents 25-30% of cases. This one we have called Marseille4, it represents the most important one since August, the one that gives the longer and more consistent epidemic. We have compared the mortality of the first epidemic.. again people go nuts because they don’t read or analyze. It’s a different disease.

    The first epidemic, with the virus from Wuhan, had a certain mortality, relatively important, it gave a lot of anosmie, and a non-negligible rate of hospitalization, and nothing with children. Then we had nothing, then we (France) had a mutation that did not spread out of France, that was very common in Africa: it very benign, very little anosmie, and it stopped by itself, we don’t know why.

    Then we had Marseille4, with a severity a bit under Wuhan, but an epidemiological profile completely different from the first (Wuhan). (Wuhan) lasted a month and a half with a bell-shaped curve. But (Marseille 4) is present since August, it does not make a bell-shaped curve, at all. We don’t know when it will stop. With a clinical picture that resembles Wuhan.

    And then today, (we have) the UK and South African. Of these, we have about 300 cases that we have analyzed the clinical data. The severity is more or less the same, the extension contagiousness is more or less the same. We don’t have a large extension of patients in comparaison with Marseille 4 that continues to be the dominant virus. Clinically very different, less anosmie and more cough. They are different diseases, but if you live in a video game, you say Covid19 is one disease with same risk, and it is not worth it to sequence genomes.

    Once again, opinions on TV do not replace science. Science is knowing. We have made tests, 500,000, we have treated 11,000 ambulatory patients, so we’ll have the biggest (data) series in the world. We have also treated 2,500 patients in our hospital, that also is one of the biggest series in the world, the results are there, the mortality is one of the lowest in the world, and the lowest mortality in the world for ambulatory (prise en charge?) patients. We (IHU Marseille) are not the class dunce.

    But if we regard la mortality in Europe, Europe has badly managed the crisis. In particular because Europe believes too much in magic; wanting each time a new technological solution for a problem of medically taking care of patients (prise en charge). But taking care of patients is essentials. There won`t be a magic wand (silver bullet).

    We’ll see what the vaccine gives. It can/may help, it can/may diminish the number of cases, in particular those that are targeted by the vaccine, but it will not stop things. We will have to come back to Earth and take charge of patients.

    Q = What are the big risks we have to face today?

    A= I want to give a note of optimism. I am an optimist because I see the numbers. Globally, it is astonishing how badly we have managed the crisis, the number of mistakes present. So, when we see the balance (bilan de comptes), we can see it is not a very bad disease.

    Practically, if we see dead 65 and under, there are less dead in 2020 than in 2019. Those are true numbers. I know people have died of Covid, also here with us. There’s one that was toxicomane, one of appendicitis, one an aneurysm, and that had Covid in their throats. But asymptomatic. We have tested a 3-8% of asymptomatics with Covid in their throats. But to say they died at the hospital with Convid, it has to be established, that they died of something related to Covid. .. And on top of that, however did we pass from restricting the number of tests to doing PCR tests –as usual in a panic—that were not evaluated, that give false positives. There’s people who give PCR tests with 44 (cycles) when we know after 35 the result doesn’t mean anything. We (IHU Marseille), the tests that we have reevaluated, there is 20 to 40% that are wrong (faux). There are recommended tests in the market that have not been evaluated by anyone. We have realized that there is 30% of false results. So, we don’t know what the test results mean, we don’t know what the number of deaths mean, because a clear causality has not been established.(16:20). But, otoh, their is a number on which we have worked for many years, that is the extra deaths from preceding years (surmortalitè).

    This surmortality, if we don’t do catastrophism like the media loves and if we temper it by age, and we verify that there is a marked increase in deaths of people over 75. So, one, we have to take in patients as early as posible because if we do they don’t die, and for the aged we need a true policy. It is necessary to investigate treatments, like we did –and we don’t have the right to do anymore—on the aged because there we have 20% mortality rate.

    But everything considered, the loss of years here (IHU Mediteranee) is 3 years. We have to have perspective, it’s not the end of the world, let’s not ruin the economy, let’s not drive people crazy because there is an overmortality in older people (75+) . We have to get busy with them, calmly, logically, and learn to live with this. Perhaps it will stop on its own, no one really knows. Come back to simple rules, and if posible, without believing in magic wands. Science goes slowly, it’s the reason I wrote with Ioannidis (show a bible) the verbatim of all I have said during last year, so journalists cannot change and say I said stupidities… sometimes clarity comes 10 or 15 years afterwards. But I am not afraid of what I said, … including trotinette for years lost…. (goes on for a couple of minutes about a epidemic scare a few years back that gave money to different government agencies..)

    • Thanks: Alfred, roonaldo
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @roonaldo
  41. A sociopath goes for a job interview (Tracey Ullman Show)

    • LOL: Alfred
  42. Altai says:

    Again, might a plausible explanation be that people in Israel being very aware of the mass vaccination rates there leading to inappropriate risk compensation, particularly with respect to the Haredi? This would explain the jump in cases after the vaccination campaign that isn’t seen among Palestinian communities.

    Many of the vaccinated might also be ignorant of how long it takes for the vaccine to take effect and engage in inappropriate risk compensation themselves.

  43. Bibi pursues him with a drawn kosher hypodermic needle and corners the guest in the seventh room. When the figure turns to face him, Bibi lets out a sharp cry and fails re-election. The enraged and terrified revelers surge into the black room and forcibly remove the mask and robe, only to find to their horror that there is nothing underneath. Only then do they realize the cure was empty and all of the guests contract and succumb to the vaccine caused disease. The final line of the story sums up, “And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.” Meanwhile back in the United Stats https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations thank you https://twitter.com/drnancym_cdc?lang=en DO NOT GET VACCINATED by Igor Alien Cohnpen

  44. Anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Badger Down

    Nobody hates the ‘Jews’. What people hate is evil and people consciously following evil doctrines such as Talmudic supremacy. If i were Jewish I would be leading the fight against the Talmudists.

    The Israeli deep state is clearly Talmudist, practically a death cult. Israelis (or Zionists) invented terrorism (per Begin), murdered Patton, attacked USS Liberty, planned 9/11, sends hit squads worldwide, etc. Goal: world domination. Covid19 will probably turn out to be an Israeli invention. Who else wants to farm humans? Do not underestimate Israeli evil.

    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
    , @artichoke
  45. Skeptikal says:
    @Anon

    Thanks very much for the translation/transcription.

  46. Kumbaresu says:
    @Steven80

    Then some countries will get mRna that will make them sterile (Africa, for example), while others (Israel, for example) will get vaccines that will make people smarter.

    No there is no vaccine that makes you more intelligent, however since vaccines can cause dementia and autism, the individual who received the vaccine can imagine that he is smarter than anybody else which might have happened to Bill Gates and some of his friends a while ago. This might explain why they are trying to redesign the humankind in their own God like image.

    Also the fact that Israelis are getting vaccinated like there is no tomorrow is so astounding that makes me speechless. I doubt they are getting smarter in the process, most likely the opposite is going to happen.

  47. Kumbaresu says:
    @Anonymous

    And now they repented and decided to commit suicide via mass vaccinations!

  48. I have read both of Gilad’s pieces on the issue of mass vaccinations.

    And I wonder, is it possible that the spikes in deaths in each country where such a vaccination program was implemented were coincidental, allowing for the mortality rate to spike even if there were no vaccines?

    With the way such information is being reported throughout the media, I wonder if it is even possible to make a rational conclusion with such data…

  49. @Skeptikal

    Abby is just defending her tribe with a little historical white-washing. Ostracism from tribal life follows too much candour.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  50. @Reverend Goody

    You believe Jews should never be criticized.
    I believe in Free Speech.
    So does Ron Unz, a jew, and you should read what he says about the Holocaust.

    I, personally, have never, ever heard a Jew apologize to anyone for anything. Ever.
    Put that in your pipe and smoke it buddy.
    I have met people from at least 50 countries. The worst were Jews, who don’t want to work, preferring to live off others labour. That, my friend, is parasitic. The next worst were Muslims who, being less intelligent, just take welfare. On a well known Arabic talk show a prominent Saudi criticized Muslims and quoted the rates of welfare by muslims in Europe. The number was astonishingly high.
    If I live in the West, enjoying my natural rights, how is it that I should be prevented from expressing my disapproval for free-loading Arabs and parasitic Jews? My ancestors sweated, bleed and died for their homeland. What exactly did these people do to deserve this standard of living? Why are they even here?
    In a REAL DEMOCRACY they would all be deported back to THEIR homelands in Israel, Egypt or wherever.
    We owe them nothing. They owe us.
    This is not hatred. It is reality. We built a civilization. It is OURS. They can build their own.
    Do you hear the Chinese crying over 2 Opium Wars the Sassoon family got the British to fight against China? The Chinese actually were victimized by Jews using tbe British Empire. If anyone deserves financial compensation for colonialism it is the Chinese and Indians. Yet, both countries are busy working to build their societies. I respect their hard work and wish both people’s success.
    Will Jews apologize to China for 2 Opium wars?
    Will Jews apologize to anyone for anything, ever, or will they continue to moan about the debunked German blood libel aka Holohaux? According to the Red Cross around 300,000 Jews died in German work camps. Guess what? 60 million Europeans and Japanese died in WW2.
    Remove your head from your [email protected]@ and use your brain. Think for once you sheep.

    • Agree: Alfred
  51. @anonymous

    54,000 tweets, and thirty(30) were ‘antisemitic’ ie mostly told the truth. And that somehow justifies his butchery? Dear, oh dear. Hell hath no fury….as they say.

  52. @Skeptikal

    It’s called pilpul. Much like the vicious lying, twisting and Talmudic casuistry that was required to turn Corbyn a life-long anti-racist and friend of Jews, in his constituency, neighbourhood and generally, into an ‘antisemite’. Anything but craven, boot-licking, groveling is unacceptable.

  53. Skeptikal says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Have you read the article? I’d be very interested to get others’ take.
    https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n04/abigail-green/insider-outsiders

    My sense is that Abigail Green is a bigtime academic gatekeeper, ensconced at Oxford.

    https://www.history.ox.ac.uk/people/professor-abigail-green#/

    Some of her strategies in the LRB piece are pretty simple-minded, like ignoring historical facts that don’t support her narrative, misleading labeling, and constant reminders that talking about X (such as Jews and finance) can easily be construed as anti-Semitism. Thanks for the gentle electric prod, Abigail, so we don’t stray in our thoughts to connect obvious dots, where we are not supposed to venture!!

    The Jewish Country Houses and Jewish Palaces Tours (linked to Green’s uni webpage) seem to be designed to cater to the public’s fascination with overwhelming wealth and luxury and through this amazement to sideline any actually meaningful inquiry as to the actual activities of this ueber-wealthy and ueber-influential handful of people.
    https://www.history.ox.ac.uk/article/a-route-to-discover-jewish-palaces-villas-and-country-houses

    Viz.: “Jewishness is everywhere and nowhere in houses whose owners belonged to high society even if they were also key figures in the world of Jewish philanthropy.”
    Huh. Just rich people having fun and sharing their winnings with the Jewish community, . . . No financial manipulations via loans; no string pulling at the Foreign Office; no spending millions to build up the Pre-WW1 Jewish community in Palestine; etc. Please! We know where the Overton Window is!!

    Sure, the history of the whole British aristocracy—of any aristocracy— is a story of accrual of huge power—but it is a history that can easily be researched and known and discussed. But the role of Jews in Britain and internationally continues to be veiled. I recently read William Dalrymple’s The Anarchy, on the British East India Company—great book, and I am a huge fan of his—but virtually zero mention of the interface of the Baghadi Jews in India with the BEIC and their role in the Opium Wars (namely, growing, processing, packaging, and shipping the opium, a sector in which certain families held a monopoly and a business that involved virtual enslavement of thousands and thousands of Indians), which furthered British imperial ambitions against the Chinese. Dalrymple also devotes some discussion to the financial affairs of the BEIC but says nothing about Jewish investments and financing.

    I was surprised to see how obvious the massaging of the subject matter is in the LRB article. I wonder whether any academics will venture to challenge any of Green’s uninteresting little conclusions as to the reasons books these people are the subjects of multiple publishing projects in the first place. Because they had fancy homes and a glittering social life?
    Huh.

  54. @Zumbuddi

    The vaccine was developed by BioNTech in Germany. Their research chief was a Moslem. Pfizer’s input was money not scientific research. Everything’s possible when you’re in a hurry but there have been around 200 million people vaccinated world wide and infection rates have crashed.

    I’ll be vaccinated with Astrazeneca probably in March. I’m glad that Australia almost eliminated infections and could safely wait for other countries to vaccinate first. It’s different in countries like the USA which faced a medical emergency. It was the right decision for the USA to take greater risks with vaccines because they had many more deaths (over 500,000) and many more diseased.

    You must note that I’ve just complimented Trump and Biden who prefer the same vaccination strategy. I feel no need to pretend that Democrats and Republicans are always different even during their 4 yearly most important Presidential elections of all time. [email protected]

    • Disagree: Alfred
    • Troll: Herald
  55. roonaldo says:
    @Anon

    I recall Didier Raoult early on having much success with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and an antibiotic in treating patients. It is good to see he is continuing his work and is still speaking his mind.

    I also recall Luc Montagnier and his team analyzing the covid19 genome, finding spliced sequences, similar to the findings of the censored scientists in India.

    So in France, it seems, despite bureaucratic ineptitude, there still lives a spirit of honest inquiry. I say this thinking of a recent book I’ve been planning to buy “Diderot and the Art of Thinking Freely,” by Andrew Curran, which has received excellent reviews. Decades ago I read a book on Diderot, titled “The Embattled Philosopher,” I think.

  56. MaryLS says:
    @dearieme

    No need to “assume”. Death rate is around 0.3% of mostly elderly. That does not sound urgent enough to me to be pushing an experimental vaccine on the whole world.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  57. lysias says:

    Front-page article in today’s Washington Post claiming that Israel’s vaccination program is a great success.

  58. Ewan says:

    This is from Private Eye July 10th-23rd, 2015 edition – from an article in the column ‘ Medicine Balls’>

    ” Will patients be harmed by the government’s relentless demand for more efficiency savings to the NHS [ UK National Health Service].
    Former health minister Norman Lamb believes the proposed £22bn savings by 2020 are ‘almost impossible’

    Quite prescient timing. I assume by April 2020, the start of the new fiscal year.

  59. Hmmm. Jews? Israelis? Lab rats? Israeli mutants (last article ). Orthodox Jews and Covid? Your pet peeve. Those Hassids and their pale children coughing in the street.
    Do I sense a phobia against the tribe you accuse of all sorts of shit? You just can’t let it or them go.

    What a racist mess you are. After all your political Jew propaganda feel on deaf years, after Labour lost. No one can find the center or the hook of the Jew hatred. WN hate Jews, and so do the left. Jews no where and everyone. No more easy as targets, with Jeff Bezos and big tech not being all Jewish. So you have to dig deeper into the void to pull out words like Jews as lab rats.

    So sad to see you de evolve into a propagandist against nothing. That is why you have a grand total of 35 response to your articles. What is a poor Jew hater suppose to resort to? Lap rats and Pfizer? No more BDS, no more Palestinians. Israel as apartheid colonialist is deader then dead Israel hatred is no longer in vogue. Dead as a door nail.

  60. JayTe says:

    I would only say that the author is incorrect about the percentage. You cannot mix absolute percentage with relative percentage.

    The Pfizer sought to impress everyone with the 95% effective claim.

    However, this was based upon relative risk reduction. That is the declared percentage difference between the vaccinated group’s 8/18310 chance (0.044%) of developing COVID 19 against a 162/18319 (0.88%) chance of COVID 19 symptoms without the vaccine. As this larger group of 43,000 people have yet to be trialled, there is no basis for this claimed outcome. But it is what it is, and we can use these reported figures here.

    It should be noted this only refers to an alleged reduction of COVID 19 symptoms among those who have the virus. The tested endpoints do not demonstrate that the vaccine will either reduce the spread of infection or save lives. It should also be noted that these figures suggest the threat from COVID 19 is vanishingly small.

    Using Pfizer’s figures, the relative risk reduction is 100(1 – (0.044/0.88)). Which is 95%.

    This sounds fantastic but they should report the absolute risk reduction. The absolute risk of developing COVID 19 symptoms without the vaccine is supposedly 0.88% and with the vaccine 0.044%. In absolute terms, the effectiveness of the vaccine is (0.88-0.044)%.

    A risk reduction of 0.84% from the vaccine. Which is nothing!!!

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
  61. My two questions, about the vaccination of Israeli Jews is “just what Vaccine are they getting? Is it the Pfizer, or the politician one?” (namely the kosher or the salient solution one?)
    How would we know considering all deaths, pretty much have been by flu, before the vaccine and after, covered up/or we’re led to about new Covid strains.

    My guess is that the Jews in Israel are getting salient solutions, if any at all.

  62. Marcin says:

    Israeli citizens are not dumb. And if they are non fanatical Zionists they can also see the problem

    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ryptFS5GO interesting article.

    • Replies: @republic
  63. I assume what Gilad (Shamir shares the same story in his articles, and so do other online a personal sources) tells us means that effectively Bibi has committed something akin to a delayed Holocaust.

    The severe Pfizer reactions are just the tip of the iceberg. Wait for the histopathlogy of the hepatocytes in years ahead.

    Nearly every single country is opting for several vaccines:CoronaVac BBIBP-CorV Janssen Vaccines EpiVacCorona Covaxin CoviVac, and certainly these carry different risk profiles.

    SARS-CoV-2, Sputink and Valneva will be the least offensive and most effective inoculations. Valneva is equivalent to SARS-CoV-2.

    When you catch SARS-CoV-2, your testes are affected. Ovaries, we don’t know, but highly likely. Injecting yourself with any vaccine is likely to augment, not abate such damage, since natural pathway for SARS-CoV-2 immunity can guard. Vaccine jabs? Less so.

    Now check out how Pfizer is starting to boss countries around:

    I was serious about my manifesto.

    https://tsarfat.wordpress.com/2021/02/24/cmanifesto/

    How long will it take you to wake up?

  64. ariadna says:

    This article linked below supports Gilad’s analysis:

    https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/death-rates-skyrocket-in-israel-following-pfizer-experimental-covid-vaccines/#

    As to why Israel has been selected as the experimental lab, speculations abound, but only the apex of the global elite knows, none of whom lives in Israel, although they have boulevards named after them. Maybe Israel has outlived its usefulness for them, maybe an added perceived bonus is to kill dead any conspiracy theory that “it’s the Jews.” Because, after all, it is not “the Jews” but the deeply “Jewish” global elite.

    • Thanks: Tony Ryals
    • Replies: @ariadna
  65. Bio weaponization of prion disease via injections?

    Published data has shown that there are several different factors that can contribute to the conversion of certain RNA binding proteins including TDP-43, FUS and related molecules to their pathologic states. These RNA binding proteins have many functions and are found in both the nucleus and the cytoplasm. These binding proteins have amino acid regions, binding motifs that bind specific RNA sequences. Binding to certain RNA sequences when the proteins are in the cytoplasm is believed to causes the molecules to fold in certain ways leading to pathologic aggregation and prion formation in the cytoplasm [2]. The current analysis indicates Pfizer’s RNA based COVID-19 vaccine contains many of these RNA sequences that have been shown to have high affinity for TDP-43 or FUS and have the potential to induce chronic degenerative neurological diseases.

    by the novel RNA based vaccines against COVID-19. The vaccine places a novel molecule, spike protein, in/on the surface of host cells. This spike protein is a potential receptor for another possibly novel infectious agent. If those who argue that the COVID-19 is actually a bioweapon are correct, then a second potentially more dangerous virus may be released that binds spike protein found on the host cells of vaccine recipients. Data is not publicly available to provide information on how long the vaccine RNA is translated in the vaccine recipient and how long after translation the spike protein will be present in the recipient’s cells. Such studies pertaining to in vivo expression will be complex and challenging. Genetic diversity protects species from mass casualties caused by infectious agents. One individual may be killed by a virus while another may have no ill effects from the same virus. By placing the identical receptor, the spike protein, on cells of everyone in a population, the genetic diversity for at least one potential receptor disappears. Everyone in the population now becomes potentially susceptible to binding with the same infectious agent.

    https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  66. Bishop Bullwinkle – Hell To The Naw (Lyrics on Screen)

    He Thanks God for his sound mind

  67. @ImaBotKnot

    But prion diseases like CJD typically take decades to kill the victim. A bit slow, but it might finish off any hardy survivors I suppose-if the killer robots haven’t found them first.

  68. ariadna says:
    @Fran Taubman

    What happened, Fran? There was a time when you could rub two words together and get a spark going that would elicit at least a couple of indignant responses. Occasionally you could even prod Gilad to react, usually with a kind of mostly tolerant, ursine benevolence. And now? Only I, who said I would scroll over your comments, notice you? This is not the Fran I remember. You got the vaccine?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  69. Dumbo says:
    @Fran Taubman

    What a racist mess you are.

    Are Jews a race? Isn’t Atzmon Jew in that case?

    WN hate Jews, and so do the left.

    Usually people hate someone for a reason. I personally don’t hate Jews, but I find it baffling that so many of them appear to not understand why many people could have some antipathy to them, even though it is pretty obvious.

    Have you ever asked yourself, sincerely, why do so many people hate Jews? Are Jews capable of self-reflection? Even now, Jews will talk about the Inquisition, Nazism, but I never see them bringing up usury, the murder of the Romanovs, Goldman-Sachs, etc. So it’s useless to discuss “anti-semitism” with Jewish people, they don’t get it.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  70. republic says:
    @Marcin

    Lew Rockwell had that article today

  71. @ariadna

    Yes I did get the vaccine. I have not been on UR fro a month and not on Gilad’s post in several. Maybe I am just out of vogue at the moment. No longer interesting. Gilad has changed from his usual Jew centric critic of politics which died a natural death, to Judeo horror flicks. Disease and lab rats. Got to be for the really low IQ on UR.

  72. @Dumbo

    Have you ever asked yourself, sincerely, why do so many people hate Jews? Are Jews capable of self-reflection? Even now, Jews will talk about the Inquisition, Nazism, but I never see them bringing up usury, the murder of the Romanovs, Goldman-Sachs, etc. So it’s useless to discuss “anti-semitism” with Jewish people, they don’t get it.

    Spent a lifetime reflecting on this shit. My conclusion for what it is worth is that all peoples are the same. All. There is no special traits that involve Jews that would cause Jew hatred. The cases you site are laughable. Just think of the Romanovs what a benevolent aristocracy they were. Like no one but the Jews wanted them dead.

    But to get to the point. Judaism is the spawning ground for the other two religions Christianity and Islam. The Jews never accepted the continuation of the religion with revamp and rewrites. They never accepted Jesus or Mohammed. Kind of breads a little discontent when you tell the other two “sorry you missed the boat” and continue on your way like nothing happened, they try and wipe you out and you survive and thrive. The Jews really rubbed the paganism aspect of Catholicism in the Christians faces. Pissed people off. When the Jesus story got taken over by Rome and turned into a multiple deities, with the father the son and the holy ghost, and the praying to a statue of a man nailed to across, well th Jews could barely keep a straight face like the Roman gods having children. Zeus etc.

    If I were on the other side I would hate the Jews. Look no one wants to be called a scam. And no matter how hard they tried Christianity could never extricate themselves from Judaism same with Islam. The eastern countries do not hate the Jews. China etc.
    Kind of logical no?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  73. Skeptikal says:

    “The eastern countries do not hate the Jews. China etc.
    Kind of logical no? ”

    Well, India and China have excellent reasons to hate Jews.

    And to demand reparations.

  74. @Skeptikal

    Really what did they do the Tsunami? Samurai?

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  75. Skeptikal says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Read some history, Fran.

    You are an ignoramus.

    I won’t even give you any hints, because you are a proud ignoramus.

    Go to your rabbi and ask him/her what I could possibly be talking about.

    Then report back here what you have been told.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  76. @Skeptikal

    Yeah, but Eastern philosophies do not preference long-lasting group hatreds and vendettas, unlike the West. A generalisation with exceptions in both places, but true I would say. Jews lived happily in Kerala since the Greek times, as traders etc, and the Chinese treat Jews as just another people, and Israel just another country, both of which lack of the expected groveling, outrages certain Jews, and the Zionazis in particular. That the Zionazis know that controlling China as they do the West is impossible, makes them antipathetic towards China, even as it rises.

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    , @Skeptikal
  77. @Fran Taubman

    ‘No more Palestinians’? Are you one of those Talmudists who would prefer that the Palestinians suffer the fate ordained for the Amalekites? That is, extermination.

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  78. @Fran Taubman

    This puts me in mind of Bernard Lazare, A French Jewish thinker of the late 19th century. He was a dedicated opponent of Judeophobia, and an early defender of Dreyfus, but he realised that Judeophobia was not a simple phenomenon. As he observed, Jews had almost always been hated in their host societies, despite differences of race, religion, history, geography, social arrangements etc in those societies. He simply proposed that at least some of the blame for those situations must belong to ‘Israel’ ie the Jews. Whatever the case, Judeophobia, like Islamophobia, Sinophobia, Russophobia or any hatred of an entire group, no matter the individual’s character and behaviour, is stupid, wicked and destructive.

  79. Stu says:

    But there again I think they are trying too hard as usual!!!!

    • LOL: Alfred
  80. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    but Eastern philosophies do not preference long-lasting group hatreds and vendettas

    You live in a parallel Universe, mate.

  81. Skeptikal says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Hey, MM, generally I respect your opinion.

    However, this time I think you missed my point, when you hypothesized about the Eastern philosophical frame of mind.

    Me: Just setting the historical record right.

    Also, not sure you are right about this.
    Frankly, I don’t think China is going to forget the Opium Wars anytime soon.
    For starters.

  82. R2b says:

    Increase in cases is one thing.
    Real infections another.
    Show us the death-tolls compared to previous years.
    That is basic.

  83. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You misunderstood. No more Palestinians is not a literal sentence. Of course the Palestinians in Israel are doing very well and I hope that they thrive. I meant that there is no more Palestinian propaganda that was spread by Islamist to use it to threaten Israel. The Palestinians are no longer in vogue as a grievance to threaten Jews with. It seems the world has moved on from championing their cause. That is certainly true of the EU and the other Sunni Arab countries. A Palestinian state was all you heard about for years. No longer.

    • Disagree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Tonypoo
    , @Alfred
  84. @Skeptikal

    I googled and found nothing. Can you give me a hint? I graduated high school and college. I have never heard of any earth shaking events. FYI here is a Forbes article on how India loves the Jews. India is a huge supporter of Israel, same with China.

    To my mind, the best example of that can be found in the remarkable story of a tiny minority–India’s Jewish community. India may be the only country in the world that has been free of anti-Semitic prejudice throughout its history. As the Jewish genealogical journal Avotaynu recently observed in an article on one Indian Jewish group, “The Bene Israel flourished for 2,400 years in a tolerant land that has never known anti-Semitism, and were successful in all aspects of the socio-economic and cultural life of the people of the region.”

    https://www.forbes.com/2007/08/05/india-jews-antisemitism-oped-cx_gw_0813jews.html?sh=7ed588b53d45

  85. @Gilad Atzmon

    This “40 times” reference is rather fishy. Nakim site (where it is supposedly published) is dead. Googling the name of the doctor Herve Seligmann does not find the study in question. The good doctor exists, but the study does not – excepting the dead Nakim site. The Israeli co-author of the study appears to be a lay enthusiast https://www.facebook.com/haim.yativ . Perhaps it is true, but maybe it is a fake.

  86. Tonypoo says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The best comment I read. Thank You!!!

  87. Tonypoo says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You must be a filthy Zionist. The world is still with the people of Palestine and AGINST the genocidal Zionist JEWES!!!

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  88. @Tonypoo

    I shower everyday and have heard little about the genocide of he Palestinians lately from Arabia to Europe. Why you may ask? Because there is no genocide of the Palestinians the population of Arabs in Israel has quadrupled since 1948. Hardly a genocide, but don’t let a little thing like FACTS get in the way of your filthy propaganda. Fact is that Arabs living in Israel have a higher income and more freedom than anywheres in the Arab world. Get some imperial evidence based material to mull over before posting.

  89. Alfred says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Palestinians are no longer in vogue as a grievance to threaten Jews with

    Try looking outside your information bubble. 🙂

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  90. @Alfred

    I am just telling you what I am reading and seeing. The Abraham accords where Arab Muslim countries signed on to peace with Israel where once upon a time they would not until the “Palestinian issue was resolved” whatever that means. The UN is seriously considering defunding UNRA an agency dedicated to the Palestinian refugees since 1948, which is corrupt and pays people to jet around. The PLA is so corrupt the Palestinians hate them, they are a cottage industry gathering funds from other countries who are pulling back. I never hear about the two state solution. When was the last time you heard about it? I never hear anything but about the Sunni VS the big bad Shia.
    Just saying that I do not think the Palestinians are in a position of strength and 3 or 4 generations are no longer considered refugees by international law.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  91. Skeptikal says:

    You know what has been done to the Palestinians.
    You have no integrity.
    Your casuistry is disgusting, but typical.

  92. I made a comment on Twitter to the effect that Jews would probably do a double take about governments saying “Trust us” -and the usual suspects jumped on my shit without for a moment thinking about what I was saying. You don’t even have to obliquely question WW2 or Czarist Russian atrocity narratives. I had said Jews might be wise to question the presumption of a benevelent govt.

  93. Alfred says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Abraham accords where Arab Muslim countries signed on to peace with Israel where once upon a time they would not until the “Palestinian issue was resolved” whatever that means.

    The “Arabs” you refer to, people like Mohammed bin Salman, are detested by their own populations – the mother of MBS is Turkish. MBS is being defeated in Yemen. Saudis will not fight for him so he recruits mercenaries from places like Sudan and Eritria.

    It will be interesting to see what will happen in the next few years. These “Accords” that you mention are only designed to help Netanyahu get reelected. Nothing to do with what is happening on the ground.

    As for the stooges in the UAE, they lost in Yemen and have withdrawn. They even fought in Yemen against their Saudi partners. How many rockets would it take for Iran to put an end to these fake city states that are totally dependent on oil and tourism. All these buildings were built by Indian slaves and thousands have died in the process. No mention in your information bubble.

  94. @Chris Moore

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous and uneducated you sound?
    You are spewing lies and unnecessary anti Semitism. I am an Orthodox Jew and what you are saying is so far from the truth. Sad that there are plenty like you who just read/see ridiculous conspiracy theories and just spread it along. Please go learn REAL Jewish history, then come back and make comments. Let me guess you also deny the Holocaust happened? 6 million Jews were murdered in such atrocities… How can you say such things??? look into it maybe you’ll learn something.

  95. johan says:

    I know the real reason of the situation in Israel, the vaccinations are made by the Goy, and these are notoriously anti-Semitic. Beats me why the state in Israel puts the faith of the chosen people in the hands of the Goy though… Last I read, some important guy working at Pfizer is even a Muslim..

  96. artichoke says:
    @Anonymous

    The Liberty was offshore Israel to intercept its communications during the 6 Day War and leak them to the enemy. It was acting as a hostile ship and could not be tolerated at that critical moment. It wouldn’t go away.

  97. @Braer rabbitt

    I sliced Ruthie when she was 18

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