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Yesterday Haaretz published a tedious, clumsily written 5000 word rant titled, “The Fake Nazi Death Camp: Wikipedia’s Longest Hoax, Exposed.”

It seems that some Israelis and Jews are very disturbed that Poles have a gas chamber narrative of their own. “For over 15 years, false claims that thousands of Poles were gassed to death in Warsaw were presented as fact. Haaretz reveals they are just the tip of an iceberg of a widespread Holocaust distortion operation by Polish nationalists”

I’m not even remotely an expert on gas chambers. I am neither an engineer nor a historian and have no opinion on the validity or historicity of claims that Poles were gassed by Nazis. But what is plain is that Israelis and Jews are insisting upon dominating any narrative of the past and not just the Jewish past. They are outraged that other victims of the Nazis claim to have been gassed. They insist that being gassed must remain the sole domain of the Jews.

“It’s fake history,” says Prof. Havi Dreifuss, a Tel Aviv University historian and Yad Vashem’s expert on Poland and the Holocaust, when asked about gas chambers in Warsaw.” Professor Dreifuss, a Jewish-Israeli academic, feels entitled to comment on the validity of the emerging Polish gas narrative. I do not have an issue with Dreifuss’ sense of academic privilege, yet, you don’t need me to remind you what happens to a gentile academic, comedian or politician who is even mildly critical of any piece of the Jewish holocaust narrative.

The Haaretz article is mainly concerned with the relevant Wikipedia entry. Writing that, since the Wikipedia article on the “Warsaw concentration camp was opened in August 2004, and until it was completely rewritten this past August, it falsely claimed that there was an extermination camp in the Polish capital.”

Israel’s relentless quest to dominate Wikipedia is not a new story and is hardly a secret. Back in 2010 The Guardian wrote that Israeli “groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in ‘Zionist editing’ for Wikipedia, the online reference site.” You can watch the rabid right wing Israeli politician Naftali Bennet commenting on a Wikipedia editing workshop that teaches Jews and others how to edit Wikipedia pages to favour the Israeli position.

It seems the Hasbara Ziopedia schooling produced the goods. “The person who first discovered the scale of the (Polish gas chamber) distortion – and is now arguing to have it recognized as Wikipedia’s longest hoax – is an Israeli editor dubbed Icewhiz, who refuses to be identified by his real name but agreed to speak with Haaretz. Icewhiz has already rewritten the English-language article for KL Warschau to reflect the accepted historical truth, but his attempt to cleanse other Wikipedia articles that incorporate material from it reveal that the principal entry is only the tip of an iceberg.”

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Although the Israeli Wikipedia editing courses were initially set to teach Jews how to dominate the debate over Israel on Wikipedia and on the net in general, it seems it didn’t take long before the Israelis saw a duty to dominate the past of the Poles and of any other people’s history so their past fits with the primacy of Jewish suffering.

The message Haaretz delivers is that God’s chosen people or maybe just the Israelis, want the Shoah for themselves, they will not share Nazi victimhood with anyone else. Haaretz writes, “this attempt to revise the accepted history of the Shoah on the internet encyclopedia parrots the revised historical narrative currently being trumpeted by the Polish government. In this narrative, the Poles in general – not just the country’s Jewish population – were the main victims of the Nazi occupation.”

If this position is puzzling or if you wonder what is wrong with sharing Nazi victimhood, Haaretz answers: “This line attempts to shift the light away from a growing body of research into cases of Polish cooperation and collaboration with the Nazis in the persecution of Jews. The effort to rewrite Polish history on Wikipedia joins Holocaust distortion efforts by Polish think tanks – picked up and echoed by nationalist media outlets – that try to increase the estimate of the number of Poles who perished during the so-called Polocaust, a term that has gained popularity in recent years and is used to describe the mass murder of non-Jewish Poles at the hands of the Nazis. Many times, this also includes minimizing the number of Jews who died during the Holocaust. And while this new Polish narrative has failed to make headway in academia or the world media, on Wikipedia it has thrived.”

Israel fights to prevent other nations from writing their own histories if such attempts seem to interfere with the most popular Jewish religion: the holocaust. Poland lost between three to six million of its sons and daughters between 1939-1945. This tragedy understandably compels Poles to look into their past, to revise it and even to fetishize some elements of it.

Every day we read that Jewish pressure groups are publishing ‘alarming statistics’ about the rise of antisemitsm. If there is anyone who thinks that the attempt by Israel and Jewish bodies to dominate Poland’s past is likely to suppress antisemitism and make Jews loved in Poland please stand up.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. donut says:

    The only fair solution is to start over again and be sure that only Jews are gassed and have Naftali Bennet count them to certify that at least the six million number is verified this time . That will show those deniers .

  2. renfro says:

    I read this when it first appeared…..the claim that Jewish researchers discovered 42,500 more Nazi ghettos and camps . To give this claim some perspective there are only 19,495 cities, towns, townships and counties in the entire US in 2018.

    The Holocaust Just Got More Shocking..42,500 more concentration camps discovered.
    By Eric Lichtblau
    March 1, 2013

    [MORE]

    THIRTEEN years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the grim task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labor sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe.
    What they have found so far has shocked even scholars steeped in the history of the Holocaust.
    The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945.
    The figure is so staggering that even fellow Holocaust scholars had to make sure they had heard it correctly when the lead researchers previewed their findings at an academic forum in late January at the German Historical Institute in Washington.
    “The numbers are so much higher than what we originally thought,” Hartmut Berghoff, director of the institute, said in an interview after learning of the new data.
    “We knew before how horrible life in the camps and ghettos was,” he said, “but the numbers are unbelievable.”
    The documented camps include not only “killing centers” but also thousands of forced labor camps, where prisoners manufactured war supplies; prisoner-of-war camps; sites euphemistically named “care” centers, where pregnant women were forced to have abortions or their babies were killed after birth; and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military personnel…..https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday-review/the-holocaust-just-got-more-shocking.html

    Number of U.S. cities, towns, villages by population size 2018
    https://www.statista.com › Society › Demographics
    https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2010s-total-cities-and-towns.html

  3. #JewishPrivilege

    This topic could go on forever and ever. It could break the Internet.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  4. will of d says:

    there are hundred if not thousands of people dedicated exclusively to edit the wikipedia
    any article about european history culture…is we wuzed with jewish achieviments and if you change it in 5 min an editor will change it inmediately most of them are overbloated with fraudulents quotes , a minority academy consensus or half truth that if favour jewish promotion are regardess as inamoble truth.

    western history is being rewriten in real time

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  5. No one with any common sense believes the Holocaust narrative. Jews died at the end of the war when the Allies bombed supply lines to work camps and induced a water hygiene issue and food shortages leading Jews and plenty of others to die of disease and starvation. Prior to that, Jews were used as a labor force in camps that were far more luxurious than the Japanese internment camps in the U.S. and Canada. By banning ‘Holocaust denial’ modern Jews are stating that their fable cannot withstand scrutiny. Duly noted.
    The evidence that over 1 million German P.O.W.’s were murdered is extensive as is evidence the U.S. high command had to reward infantryman with ice cream to get them to take prisoners. We also have evidence that 5 million returning Germans from ‘Die Ostderlieblung” (apologies if my German is off) died as well.
    So let’s recap.
    1 No credible evidence for a Jewish holocaust. None. Zero.
    Evidence of around 150,000 deaths at the end of the war (a time in which a lot of people were dying as the Third Reich slowly collapsed) as conditions in work camps deteriorated due to allied bombing.

    2. Military Mass Murders and Morgenthau Plan
    Significant and credible evidence for the deaths of 1 million German P.O.W.’s in Allied camps. Yet to be quantified evidence may lead us to include 1 million or more killed in an ‘informal military genocide’ as Russian and Allied troops pincered the Germans in 1944.

    Significant and credible evidence that 5+million returning ex-pat Germans died due to disease, enemy fire, etc in 1944-1946.

    I’d say that if anyone is due war reparations it is the German people.
    As to lying Jews, we can go to any radicalized Left-wing University (pretty much the entire Western Academic world at this point) to hear lies, half-truths, fables and propaganda. The real histories of the 19th and 20th centuries have yet to be written . I expect that will happen in India or China (or somewhere not infected by Jewish fairy tales and power).

  6. Tick Tock says:
    @renfro

    Agreed!!! It is so funny the impossible stories told by Jews about themselves. Makes fairy tales seem real. They just can’t stop either. Just like Jewish Genius or lots of other Oxymorons…

  7. Well, a couple of comments.

    I’ve read of the Germans casually gassing various groups of Red Army P.O.W.’s, and of course they gassed mental defectives, etc. — so the Jews can give up on claiming a perfect monopoly on gassing.

    Second, there really is a remarkable paucity of material in English on gentile Polish sufferings in the Second World War. It’s recurrently mentioned that three million were killed — but I still am not very clear on how, why, or when. The one book I read that promised to cover the subject turned out to be a long and not very interesting or even convincing apologia for the Polish gentile attitude towards Jewish suffering.

    If anyone is familiar with a good book in English covering the the Polish gentile experience in World War Two, I’d be interested in hearing about it. I realize gentiles aren’t as important as Jews, but if we could have, say, a tenth of the material we have on the three million Polish Jews who were killed, it would be an improvement.

  8. Many people do not realize a simple truth. The Nazis did not SIMPLY want to kill all the Jews in Poland.

    They wanted to kill ALL THE PEOPLE in Poland. EVERYONE. They wanted the real estate for themselves, and they wanted to hide all evidence of their massive, monstrous crimes.

    This in no way diminishes what happened to Jewish people. It INCREASES the monstrousness of Nazis and their attitudes and behavior.

    The death camps with gas chambers were built in Poland because the Nazis wanted to HIDE the truth even from the German people. They wanted no witnesses.

    General Eisenhower wanted witnesses. That’s why, after the war, he ordered EVERY American soldier in Europe to visit a concentration camp, so that NO ONE could ever try to deny what happened. My father was one of those soldiers, and he brought home photos he took to prove it.

  9. Patricus says:
    @donut

    Sixty million Jews were killed in the holocaust. If you question this number you are a denialist.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  10. The Jewish Holocaust™ is the most sacred story in Zio-Judeo-Christianity today. I would not be surprised to see it as a new “found” book of the Bible.

  11. @Henry Kujawa

    Sure, Henry. No one “realizes” Hitler was the Devil because there are only 6.000.000 movies and non-stop Jewish propaganda 24/7/365 demonizing him and WWII Germans on every MSM channel and in every school textbook. lol neger, bitte!

  12. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Strongly agree. Additionally, 100s of millions of people of all nationalities died during the times before, during, and after the world wars. Jewish suffering is not special, even if the Holyhoax were true. Time to end the shakedown and white genocide caused by this preposterous religious myth.

  13. Leon says:

    Damn them Germans for running out of Gas.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  14. Leon says:
    @Henry Kujawa

    Whatever kind of crack that you are smoking please share it with the rest of us.

  15. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    If you find a good source let me know please.
    I have looked some myself and find not much at all.
    I came across correspondence in US gov. files that were about Poles held in Russia …don’t know if that was from the part of Poland Russia annexed before the war or not….but it talked about Poles being pressed into the Russian army with hardly any weapons to fight with.
    My memory from the dates was that Poland had been asking for assistance way before the German invasion ..didn’t see where they got any.
    There was also discussion of helping the Polish who were gearing up to fight the Germans but cant remember what came of that if anything.
    The correspondence with the US went on and on but according to all I saw they got nothing from the US or the allies.

  16. @Patricus

    I am in absolute histrionic tears at your flagrant antisemitism. Geysers of blood have started to erupt from behind my TV, too.

    There were 60-hundred billion gazillion victims. FACT.

    Although the 40-hundred billion gajillion victims at one place has been revised downwards to 10-hundred billion gajillion, the overall total is the same. If you had the IQ of the average Ashkenazi, you would understand the math.

    You would also understand why the Pale of Settlement never became a high-tech hub and global centre of academic excellence, despite being densely populated with shtletls full of people with an average IQ a full s.d. above the world’s goyim.

    Surprise: it’s because of antisemitism).

    • Replies: @Per/Norway
  17. “but according to all I saw they [Poland] got nothing from the US or the allies.”
    I take your point. I just can’t help but add that what they did get was the grossly irresponsible “blank-cheque” war guarantee from the UK & France….an action so irresponsible it’s as if the allies were knowingly offering a poisoned chalice.

    • Agree: byrresheim
    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @Dube
  18. hotrod31 says:
    @Henry Kujawa

    There is more than enough evidence which contends that the [notorious] ‘gas-chambers’ were constructed AFTER the war.
    Red Cross statistical research records indicate an INCREASE in the Jewish population between 1939-1945.
    Historical records indicate that there were in excess of 100 000 German troops who were of Jewish background, etc. etc.
    More than 20 000 000 – 30 000 000 people were killed during the war years. The War was a HOLOCAUST.

  19. @renfro

    And the number is growing …

    • Replies: @renfro
  20. @will of d

    In Athens they teach you how to think , in Jerusalem to tell you what to say …

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Art
  21. @Colin Wright

    With Amazon deleting revisionist texts, Pinguine deleting books because Rothschild was mentioned by the author in another edition of his book, and Google policing the net you won’t see much truth being explored in the English language anytime soon…Britain and the USA are now an authoritarian continuum…

  22. It’s more than this Wikipedia case. It goes deeper: http://www.unz.com/article/bitter-tantrums-and-buried-history/

    Bitter Tantrums and Buried History

    The Current Holocaust Controversy Between Israel and Poland

  23. … an Israeli editor dubbed Icewhiz, who refuses to be identified by his real name but agreed to speak with Haaretz.

    I know him. His real name is Eischwitz. 😀

    If this position is puzzling or if you wonder what is wrong with sharing Nazi victimhood, Haaretz answers: “This line attempts to shift the light away from a growing body of research into cases of Polish cooperation and collaboration with the Nazis in the persecution of Jews.”

    Let’s not talk about Zionist collaboration with the Nazis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

  24. A Forgotten Odyssey is a movie about the hidden history of the Bolshevik invasion of Poland in September 1939. We know about the German invasion which was provoked by the Poles which resulted in relatively few deaths and self-government by the Poles of the non-German parts of Western Poland. . We don’t know about the Soviet invasion of Eastern Poland which resulted in the mass deportation by the Soviet Secret Police of 1.7 million Poles to the Gulag of which an estimated 1.2 million died. I’ve included two references below. The first is to the movie – A Forgotten Odyssey.
    The 2nd reference is to a pamphlet that was published by the Polish government in exile in London in December 1940.

    A Forgotten Odyssey – The Untold Story of 1,700,000 Poles Deported to Siberia in 1940.
    In 1940, after Russia invaded Poland, Stalin deported 1.7 million Poles to slave labour camps in Siberia and Kazakhstan. Only an estimated 400,000 survived.

    Written and directed by Jagna Wright
    Produced by Jagna Wright and Aneta Naszynska
    In English and Polish with English subtitles
    Length is 52 minutes.
    Published in 2000

    https://kresy-siberia.org/muzeum/intro/film

    2. The Soviet Occupation of Poland 1939, Free Europe Pamphlet #3, (December 1940)
    edited by Casimir Smogorzewski

    Pamphlet: THE SOVIET INVASION and OCCUPATION OF POLAND DURING WORLD WAR TWO – September 17, 1939

     
    The following is a verbatim transcript of the publication The Soviet Occupation of Poland , Free Europe Pamphlet #3, edited by Casimir Smogorzewski.
     
    It was originally published in December of 1940 and so provides a unique early view of the occupation; before Katyn was discovered, before the full extent of the large scale of death and suffering in labour camps and prisons was known, before the brutal ethnic cleansing in Volhynia and before the German invasion of the Soviet Union.
     
    The tone is calm, the anger subdued, descriptions of atrocities understated. It had been produced in England to counter the Soviet claims that Eastern Poland was doing just fine or better under the occupation of the “liberating” Red Army; the Soviets “protecting” the Poles and minorities from the barbarism of the Nazis while introducing “wonderous” advances in agriculture and industry.

    Part One: the pamphlet The Soviet Occupation of Poland
    Part Two: stories of the deportations to Siberia
    Part Three: the document Annexation of Eastern Poland by the U.S.S.R.

    Kresy Siberia Reference Centre

    • Agree: Roberto Masioni
    • Replies: @renfro
  25. Vinnie O says:

    There is reasonable evidence that after the Russo-German division of Poland in 1939, the Communists systematically murdered the Polish intelligentsia living in the Russian/Soviet half of the country. This included officers in the Polish army, Catholic priests, college professors, etc. This was similar to Pol Pot’s similar extermination of the Cambodian intelligentsia some decades later and can only be taken as Communist SOP. There were also 10,000 ethnic German Polish citizens murdered in 1939 by the Poles themselves. This raises the question of how to count non-combat deaths within the various borders of what was “Poland” between 1919 and 1946 or so. White Russians and Lithuanians (and of course Ukrainians, etc., etc.) were of course also murdered by Communists outside “Poland”.

    Putting a final number on the total from both the 1939 executions and the post-1944 executions is probably impossible.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  26. There were no gas chambers, anywhere, in Poland, in Germany, or on the moon, it is a hoax that has deranged mankind and given the tribal Yahwehists even more control over America and the world than they wielded when they started WW1 and WW2. For an excellent short history of how they did it, THE JEWISH HAND IN THE WORLD WARS by Thomas Dalton

    • Replies: @Steve Naidamast
    , @tac
  27. The only solution to all of the Nazi dead horse beating stories is to raze all of the sites called concentration camps and build beautiful gardens and parks over the grounds to let the sunshine and fresh air to forever put to rest the stores of any holocaust. Like the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, it never happened.

    • Disagree: NoseytheDuke
  28. J says: • Website

    While it is true that the Nazis classified Poles as untermensch (not really human) and they enslaved and massacred them, there were no extermination camps built for them. It is probable that after finishing off all Jews, the Nazis would follow with Slave peoples. In fact, the first victims of gas chambers were Russian prisoners of war.

    The issue today is that some Poles (NOT the Polish nation) did serve the Nazis as assistant exterminators, as camp guards, as informers, etc. As a whole, Poles ere happy to see the Jews persecuted, and NOT they (they are only human). On the other hand, the Germans paid reparations and East European countries like Hungary returned all formerly Jewish owned property. Poland alone resists returning Jewish property, saying that they too were victims of the Nazis and not perpetrators. And that is a HALF TRUTH. Let God judge them! No one needs “their” money, but it would nice if they should face their crimes and repent, as the Germans did.

  29. Truth3 says:

    Puzzling Holohoax Question of the Day…

    If the so called ‘Reinhardt’ camps were not actually just transit camps, why were they each positioned in proximity to rail gauge (narrow to wide) change locations?

    You may now return to your scheduled programming.

  30. Israel’s relentless quest to dominate Wikipedia is not a new story and is hardly a secret.

    It doesn’t appear to be well-coordinated however. The polyglots among us can still have good fun reading the same Wikipedia history article in different languages.

  31. What are you talking about, people? Were the concentration camps real? How long would you and your families last in one of those camps? I know I wouldn’t last a year there.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Tusk
  32. @J

    ‘…but it would nice if they should face their crimes and repent, as the Germans did.’

    What’s exasperating about this is that Jews, of course, need not face their crimes and repent.

    You note that ‘…some Poles (NOT the Polish nation) did serve the Nazis as assistant exterminators, as camp guards, as informers, etc. ..’

    So did some Jews — still more did some Jews serve the Communist executioners. That apparently need not be accounted for.

    It used to be noted that ‘Holocaust survivors’ who were actually in the camps almost necessarily had to do something reprehensible to have survived; served as guards themselves, as the Kapos who drove their fellow Jews into the gas chambers, as informers. I’d be no more inclined to condemn them than I would be inclined to summarily condemn Poles or Ukrainians who were driven to serve the Germans — but now the Jews get a pass while the Poles must grovel.

    Go figure.

    • Replies: @J
  33. @Gilad Atzmon

    ‘With Amazon deleting revisionist texts, Pinguine deleting books because Rothschild was mentioned by the author in another edition of his book, and Google policing the net you won’t see much truth being explored in the English language anytime soon…Britain and the USA are now an authoritarian continuum…’

    Yeah — but at a minimum it should be possible to write a book that discusses the experiences of Polish gentiles as well as those of Polish Jews. After all, there are works that discuss other aspects of the Third Reich without dwelling on the Jews alone — at least there used to be.

    There’s no reason such a work need be taken to somehow deny the sufferings of the Jews of Poland — it’s not as if I feel any need to minimize the ‘Holocaust’ with the big H. I’m merely interested in this curious lacuna. Three million Polish gentiles died, but we aren’t told how — not in any single, coherent text.

  34. @Vinnie O

    ‘There were also 10,000 ethnic German Polish citizens murdered in 1939 by the Poles themselves.’

    That strikes me as a fabulous exaggeration. I find it perfectly plausible that the Poles mistreated their German minority and even began killing them once war broke out — but they would have had only a week or so to do it before the German army arrived, there is no evidence of any officially sanctioned policy or program, and the Poles themselves would have been busy with other things — to put it mildly. Popular outrage and disorganized killings are horrible, and of course fatal to the actual victims — but not really a very efficient way of putting large numbers of people to death.

    So a few hundred murdered Germans? Sure. Ten thousand? There really was such a thing as Nazi propaganda, and if the Allies weren’t scrupulously honest about all things at all times, neither were the Germans.

    Even with a lack of any particular animus, things get exaggerated. The pogroms of the late nineteenth century supposedly killed hundreds, or even thousands. More recent research (Klier) has pared the numbers to forty or fifty, if memory serves.

    When I was a kid, the death toll offered for the German bombing of Rotterdam was seventy thousand. Now it appears it was just shy of a thousand.

    On this principle, ten thousand Germans? I don’t think so.

  35. @Gilad Atzmon

    ‘In Athens they teach you how to think , in Jerusalem to tell you what to say …’

    Another one of your brilliant aphorisms.

    This has become very true. Life is always very subjective, of course, and maybe my impression is just a consequence of aging, but I distinctly recall that as a youth (sixties-seventies) it seemed that in the main, people felt free to say what they thought — their words reflected their mental processes.

    Now the words increasingly reflect whatever the official dogma of the moment is. There’s very little — if any — genuine dissent in the mainstream of academia and the media.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  36. Wally says:
    @Colin Wright

    said:
    “I’ve read of the Germans casually gassing various groups of Red Army P.O.W.’s, and of course they gassed mental defectives, etc. — so the Jews can give up on claiming a perfect monopoly on gassing.”

    And you have no proof whatsoever for a single laughably alleged ‘gassing’, as I have demonstrated, see comments at:
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    recommended:
    The Rudolf Report / Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz
    http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  37. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    I distinctly recall that as a youth (sixties-seventies) it seemed that in the main, people felt free to say what they thought — their words reflected their mental processes.

    The Holocaust did not become a proper noun until after the 1967 war.
    Your youth — wasted in Holocaust unawareness.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. Wally says:
    @renfro

    Indeed, the claim was generally ‘6M Jews & 5M others’.

    And it’s claimed that the human remains of millions upon millions exist in allegedly known locations.

    Yet those remains are not there.

    Only lies require censorship.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  39. Theodore says:

    Hopefully they piss off the Poles enough to get them to start digging around the so-called “Extermination camps”

    • Replies: @Dube
  40. Wally says:
    @Colin Wright

    Nonsense from you as usual.

    The Katyn Massacre:

    http://codoh.com/library/document/999/

    http://codoh.com/media/files/documents/documents/katyn_v.pdf

    Katyn facts: ‘Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn’
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=758

    – Documents from the U.S. National Archives reveal that the U.S. government helped cover up the Soviet 1940 massacre on some 20,000 Poles at Katyn and other places — not just during the war, but even afterwards.
    https://archive.is/qrANs

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  41. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Well said but the actual German deaths that occurred after the war actually rise to between 7 to 9 million. 1.5 million died in Eisenhower’s own Death Camps where German prisoners were left to die from starvation and exposure, on purpose, though there were plenty of prisoner supplies and equipment for them to build shelters with within walking distances of these camps.

    Approximately several million German soldiers died in the Soviet labor camps but this is not even part of my original number based on the readings I have done but in addition to.

    The rest of the 7 to 9 million Germans who died after the war who were not in the Eisenhower Camps died from starvation and exposure due to forced relocations, loss of homes, and lack of necessary essentials, which were denied Germany for some time…

  42. @Gilad Atzmon

    The Barnes Review has many of the texts that you mention…

  43. @Fool's Paradise

    Well, you are completely wrong about no German gas chambers anywhere in the Third Reich or its occupied lands.

    There were plenty of gas chambers. BUT THEY WERE USED FOR KILLING LICE, NOT PEOPLE!!!

  44. renfro says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    It seems to me the holocaust industry researchers often slip up and add exaggerations that conflict with what they claim elsewhere and what is actually on record about the Nazis.

    For instance this in the article:

    and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military

    Whereas the holocaust museum says:

    The second Nuremberg Law, the Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honor, banned marriage between Jews and non-Jewish Germans. It also criminalized sexual relations between them. These relationships were labeled as “race defilement” (Rassenschande).
    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nuremberg-laws

    Since sex between Jews and Aryans was a criminal offense by law I don’t believe that German military would have set up brothels for them to have sex with Jewish women.

    All the Jewish ‘exaggerations ‘ makes most of their tales unbelievable. They are either really stupid in doing this or they think the world is too stupid to notice.

    • Replies: @Reality Cheque
  45. @donut

    It is because of folk like Naftali Bennet and countless like him that hearing “a light on to the nations” always leaves me in stitches.

  46. renfro says:
    @Real History

    thanks….for book reference.

    • Replies: @Real History
  47. Vinnie O says:
    @Colin Wright

    OK, I cite a book on the subject. You reply with a wild guess. Educated people don’t debate that way.

    The Poles embarked on a widespread campaign to drive communities other than Poles from what Versailles said was “Poland” as soon as they got control of the place.

    Note that “Poland” had not been a separate country for CENTURIES and that even when Napoleon drove the Russian army out in 1809, Napoleon understood that NO ONE (e.g., Austria) would acknowledge a Polish country. So Napoleon invented The Grand Duchy of Warsaw, and gave the dukedom to Bavaria. This was fine with the 1808 Poles, who were ENDLESSLY thankful to Napoleon.

    1919 Poland was DESIGNED by the English to steal territory from the helpless Germans. But having not run the government of an independent country for so long, 1919 Poland simply floundered along, never quite figuring out their place in post-war Europe.

  48. J says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Well, we are talking about a fake article in the wiki, purporting to describe a gas chamber especially built by the Nazis to kill Poles. In Warsaw. That thing never existed, it was imagined by a sick person and published with bad intentions.

    In Auschwitz, a real work+extermination camp, the Polish slaves lived one electrified fence distance from the Jewish camp. I think that soon after drying up the inflow of Jews, and then of Gypsies, it would have been the turn of the Polish prisoners to feed the gas chambers.

    Poland had been designated as German lebensraum. Silesia (Schlesien) had already been emptied of Poles and their farms given to German colonists. Maps were published where all towns are lands had German names and a vast ethnic replacement and colonization project was taking place. In the Reich there was no plans for the Poles, there would have been “deported to the East” just as the Jews were. Yet it is a fact that many Poles (and Ukrainians) collaborated with the Nazis. Personally I refuse to judge them because they all had been condemned to death by the Nazi regime, even if they did not realize it at that time nor they understand even today what had taken place then. Not everybody has the courage to face reality.

    • Replies: @Wally
  49. @Kratoklastes

    i always believed it was 600 gorillion gazillion victims🤔

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  50. @Colin Wright

    So a few hundred murdered Germans? Sure. Ten thousand?

    Ten thousand is a nice, round number, easy to remember.

  51. @Wally

    The Holocaust is the lever used as the moral justification for the founding of Israel, for its wars against its neighbors and for robbing directly and indirectly the citizens of the US ($trillions) and of other countries.

    If the Holocaust narrative collapses or weakens, the justification for so much criminal activity, including on behalf of Israel, also collapses or weakens. So accusations and polemics must serve in place of evidence.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  52. @Per/Norway

    Along with giving the 👌 sign, saying “six gorillion” is now proof that you’re antisemitic, according to the ADL.

  53. joanna says:
    @J

    Jew, your historical knowledge is pitiful, as are your lies about Polish people being happy to see jews persecuted.

    “there were no extermination camps built for them” – you should read your history. Auschwitz was built for Polish people, even your Wikipedia says first prisoners in Auschwitz were Poles, Jews came much later.

    Your hatred of Poland is characteristic, it is like a litmus test – a jew hates Poland.

    Poland returned all jewish property to the rightful heirs if it was properly documented and placed in courts. Poland also returned all the communal jewish property, such as cemeteries, synagogues or theatres.
    But the jews now want HEIRLESS property – there is universal rule that such property goes to the State- however jews want to rob Poland blind and get this property.
    The property of the jews that died and left no heirs belongs to the Polish state., as is the custom and law everywhere in the world.

    • Replies: @NegroPantera
  54. @Vinnie O

    ‘OK, I cite a book on the subject…’

    ? Where did you cite ‘a book’?

  55. @joanna

    Poles should not offer the extortionists one pence. Look at what happened to Germany and how much wealth has been extorted from them enabling them to colonize Palestine and currently run the largest prison camp in the history of mankind , Gaza.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  56. @Kolya Krassotkin

    ‘The Holocaust is the lever used as the moral justification for the founding of Israel, for its wars against its neighbors and for robbing directly and indirectly the citizens of the US ($trillions) and of other countries.

    If the Holocaust narrative collapses or weakens, the justification for so much criminal activity, including on behalf of Israel, also collapses or weakens. So accusations and polemics must serve in place of evidence.’

    Leaving aside (if Wally will permit) the reality of the Holocaust or lack thereof, I believe there’s another reason for the Zionists to berate the Poles.

    It’s their turn. The Holocaust, as it existed for me in the sixties, had subsided into the category of ‘historical event.’ It was over and done with, the perpetrators punished, and the main outline of events more or less established. Some fine definition left to be debated over by the specialists, but basically there, agreed upon by everyone barring quacks — and definitely over. A historical event — of considerable interest, but in the past. Not current.

    That wasn’t really sufficient. The Holocaust had to be kept alive as a living, breathing controversy, to beat the rest of the world over the head with, and to keep alive a sense of obligation to Israel.

    So we got first the malfeasance of the French, and then the failure of the British to bomb Auschwitz, and then the Canadians failing to admit more Jews — and now, the Poles. We have Holocaust survivors — strangely, multiplying with the passage of time, and living and unpunished Holocaust perpetrators, also strangely multiplying with the passage of time. We have Holocaust Deniers, who must be vilified and actually persecuted. We have Holocaust tours. I’m amazed we don’t have a restaurant.

    The Holocaust cannot be allowed to die, to recede into the past. Because, if it does, there goes its utility as a prop for Israel.

    • Replies: @renfro
  57. @Wally

    ‘Nonsense from you as usual…’

    You must have misunderstood something I said.

    I’ve never denied or minimized Soviet atrocities. If anything, I probably tend to err in the opposite direction.

  58. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Whether they are referred to as Marxists, communists or Zionists, between 1917-1945, the terrorists installed in Russia would manage to kill upwards of twenty million Russians, and many of them were Christians.

    This would represent the true twentieth-century holocaust. The full implementation of the worlds worst, and yet most successful terror network, would include the likes of Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky. Many others would also give themselves over to the protocols of the elders of this Zionistic cabal. With an unlimited source of funding stolen from the productive members of other nations, and soon to be laws against any criticism of this group of mass murderers, the perfect crime had been committed.

    Here is but one example of the treachery of these monsters. Jacob Schiff would finance levi braunstein, (aka trotsky), to the tune of some twenty million dollars for the Anti-Christian Bolshevik cause.

    See link below for comp[lete article
    https://christiantruthproject.com/american-israeli-crimes-against-humanity/
    The Kuhn Loeb bank of New York is a founding member of the federal reserve system of banks, all of which are under the control of the rothschilds world wide banking cabal.

    Jacob Schiff who bought into the Kuhn and Loeb partnership was one of the main architects of the jewish federal reserve bank in the U.S. that would enslave the country and cause its ultimate demise.

    These banksters have been using their weapons of mass destruction against many countries continuously ever since their wicked inception. The financial Armageddon that these narcissistic psychopaths have unleashed upon the world is staggering.

    Although few are aware of this fact, one of the main goals of both world wars was to establish the firm control over the world by means of the zionist agenda of divide and conquer. Also, the nation of Israel was birthed through this period of immense treachery and deceit. And make no mistake about it, this is not the Israel of God.

  59. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    “. It could break the Internet.”

    Not if we don’t feed the hasbara trolls. 😉

  60. @Henry Kujawa

    Please seek help before you snap and kill us all.

  61. @The Dark Night

    Yeah, well…you ain’t going to last a year here, either.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  62. @Henry Kujawa

    The photos of starving concentration camp victims were genuine but their deaths were caused by Allied bombing of German supply lines which caused starvation and diseases like cholera.

    At the same time that Eisenhower was documenting this he was arranging for close to one million German POWs to be starved to death in POW camps.

    • Replies: @tac
  63. bjondo says:

    Yes,
    we know we’re insane,
    but
    we believe every moronic lie.

    5ds

  64. @renfro

    It’s hard to find truthful and descriptive information about what happened in Poland. The first web address will take you to the Pamphlet “Soviet Occupation of Poland 1939, Part I”.

    I’ve included a link to the book Latvia: Year of Horror, which describes what happened in Latvia between June 1940 and June 1941, during the Soviet occupation. This book is exceptional because it describes the Soviet “playbook” for what happened when the Soviet’s invaded. It then describes what happened with the surprise German occupation of Latvia, and then what happened when the Soviets retook Latvia at the end of the war. It was the same in every country starting with Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Latvia, etc.. The book is short, clearly written and has a few pictures.

    1 Soviet Occupation of Poland 1939, Part I
    http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id15.html

    Part 1: the first half is a rehash of Polish history, but it gets very descriptive and educational and interesting about half way through.

    2 home page: Henryk Sokolowski, Home Page, Polish Reference
    http://felsztyn.tripod.com/index.html

    3 Latvia: Year of Horror
    https://archive.org/details/LatviaYearOfHorror_201903

  65. @Steve Naidamast

    Thank you for the correction.
    I tend to err on the very conservative side when stating numbers. I would rather understate than overstate. I’m going to have to revisit this area. I expect we will see a trickle evolve into a torrent and that the court historians will be swept into the trashbin. I think that the lying liars and the lies that they tell are on the verge of collapse under the edifice of [email protected] they have built over seventy years.
    It would be nice to see a generation grow up without the ball and chain tied to what is left of our Western Civilization’s leg. I still think that there is an opportunity for renewal. The first place to start is with getting some light shed on the twentieth century and exposing how much European blood was shed, why it was shed and whose interests were served.

    It would be nice to see some good translations of the Bible from Russian into German, English and other languages. It would be nice to see Orthodox Christianity make a comeback in the West and provide a real alternative to Rome and to Evangelicals (the fact that no one is articulating what a heresy ‘Christian Zionism’ is, how UnChristian the Catholic Church really is and the role ”they” have played in all of this astounds me).
    I can only hope.

  66. @renfro

    It’s kind of amazing that the Magic Jews can’t do math when it comes to their Holocaust but when it comes to Usury and Compound Interest etc. they suddenly remember how to do it!

    • LOL: anarchyst
  67. @Christian truth Project

    Agreed.
    I strongly suspect that Rep. Adam Schiff is a descendant of Jacob Schiff. I have done some digging but so far have not managed to find the evidence. It would not surprise me.

    My understanding is that a significant number of NYC ashkenazis went with Trotsky/Bronstein back to Russia. Further, ne’er do wells and bandits (modern language=psychopaths) descended on Russia from all over. Probably a similar dynamic occurring wherever Soros spreads his money around building up Antifa, aka Luciferian Marxists.
    Apropos of nothing, Marx was a satanist. Originally, Marx wanted to be upfront and state definitively that Communism was an implementation of satanic/luciferian beliefs but was overruled by his sponsors which included a RedShield. Ironic that wherever Marxists seized power they killed priests; surely coincidental. Not just in Russia during the Jewish-Bolshevik revolution but also during the failed Spanish Revolution, aka ‘civil war’. That civil war has been categorized as a genocide (shy 1 million deaths mostly through death squads on both sides) by one historian.
    It is astounding the level of dishonesty over the last 100 years of history. I’m sure it is completely unrelated to the affluence of Ashkenazis in the West. Surely there is no correlation. Wherever the Red Flag and the 5 pointed yellow star went the bodies piled up (200+Million). Somehow, Nazis and ‘6million’ dominates the headlines. Very strange.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  68. Truth3 says:

    Ridiculous Jewish Assertion of the Day…

    … the Luftwaffe even considered bombing Jerusalem on the anniversary of the Balfour Declaration.

    You may now return to your scheduled programming.

  69. tac says:

    A man–unlike ANY politician since dared to put the interests of his people ahead of anything else. Whether you agree or disagree, have an open mind to revisit this case; perhaps you will now see what you missed previously.

    Perhaps the monetary answer to the banksters’ usury has been tried before. And because it was so successful the banksters declared war on this simple yet principled system of monetary discipline and demonized its leader–unlike any other person before and since (specifically so this system would not catch on and put the banksters out of usurious money-lending practices).

    What if most of everything we were told–especially about history–was an outright lie, fabrication, “enhancement”, distortion or embellishment? What if you could investigate for yourselves and confirm this fable was organized? If so, then it must be by way of reason to have been intentional! We are not talking about pieces here or there, but wholesale chunks inverted and presented by corrupt “officials” as sacrosanct history based on “research”. No, ladies and gentlemen, these are no more than propaganda talking points made to keep you in your place: devoid of the truth, distracted from an en-devour thereof, or coerced into silence or taken out if all else failed.

    The awakening is here and now in our lifetimes; what remains is our effort to commit …. time for a reprogramming course indeed ….

    Hitler, more than an other politician since then, cared more about his people than imaginable. For example, he used non-inflationary government created and issued Labor Treasury Certificates to fund Germany from the poorest country in Europe to the richest in five years. This made the bankers (Judea) declare on Germany. This simple approach to money (money is not an intrinsic value rather it is a “measure” of value much like a measuring cup that measures commodities like sugar, flour, grain, etc.) could have caught on in the rest of Europe and throughout the world putting the end to the banksters and their usury.

    “Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany’s startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took the entire Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers.”

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/08/how-hitler-defied-the-bankers/

    If you have ever dared or not to watch a video, please make an concerted effort to watch this one (just about six minutes long but one that needs views and redistribution like none other) and one that may hold the most retained value from its consumption:

    Adolf Hitler – The Man who fought the Bank:


    extended version of this video here:


    BENJAMIN FREEDMAN – WHY HITLER HATED THE JEWS:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/wY9hUPOxLku5/

  70. tac says:
    @Henry Kujawa

    LOL. You cannot seriously think what you wrote is believable in the slightest. Are you aware of even the basics? Well, start here:

    http://www.tomatobubble.com/worldwarii.html

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/01/if-hitler-won-world-war-ii-wed-have-a-better-more-just-world-today/

  71. Biff says:

    I’m not even remotely an expert on gas chambers.

    Back when I was a working man I used to install mechanical(air flow) for commercial kitchens, and my best guess as to gassing (select)people to death without killing yourself or other non-selected people would be an expensive, and dangerous undertaking. In practice, I don’t think it would take long before you would have accidents, and dead people everywhere. Poisonous gas does not hold prejudice.

  72. @Leon

    While I realise that this was intended as humour it also serves to reinforce the widely held belief that gas was used by Germany as a weapon in the mass extermination of people, a belief for which little if any, real evidence exists.

  73. In this sensitive age, aren’t we supposed to believe all claims of victimhood?

  74. bjondo says:

    Collusion between
    a clown a hag a toad?

    Seems so.

    Oct 6, 1973.

    http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Suez.htm

    5ds

  75. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    After WWII a holocaust survivor was defined as someone who had survived a concentration camp.

    The Jews, specifically the Jewish Claims Conference and Israel bargained with Germany to change the definition of holocaust survivor to include …”Any Jew that lived in any country occupied by or allied with Germany and any Jews that fled said countries and any countries that had laws restricting Jews during the period of WWII.”

    It meant more money for the Jews of course. The US Social Security even adopted that definition for the purpose of extending special benefits to and excluding any money Jews received from taxation regardless of their income.

    There is a move afoot now to try and get payments in the billions from Arab countries for their supposed cooperation with Germany. They have already sued some S. American countries for discrimination against the Jews during the war. In one instance it was claimed that Jews were not allowed to gather in city parks and that traumatized them. The country said it prevented that as a safety measure to avoid possible violent outbreaks between Jews and others during the war years.

    The Red Cross said in their official report that there were 52,000 Jews liberated from all the concentration camps. Now the Jewish Claim org says there are between 680,000 and 1,200,00 under the new definition. The orgs also say because of their treatment and trauma Jews don’t live as long and have health problems…but every month turns up a 95 year old holocaust survivor to tell their story.

    Its all nauseating .

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Nodwink
  76. @Henry Kujawa

    Then why are these Jews in Israel calling the Holocaust as it affected Poland a Hoax?

    They seem to be impugning your father, and calling him a liar.

    It’s pretty hilarious, if these Polish victims apparently don’t exist – why then is it consiered impermissable to observe that the Jewish victims largely didn’t exist?

    It is disgusting. The Jews deny everyone else’s victimhood whilst making it illegal to question their own.

    The Holohoax never happened to the Jews. But it did to the Poles.

    They should pay them nothing, and in fact demand reparations from the Jews for their endless libel against the Poles.

  77. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    The orgs also say because of their treatment and trauma Jews don’t live as long and have health problems…but every month turns up a 95 year old holocaust survivor to tell their story.

    Now mostly in their 80s and 90s, some Holocaust survivors again are experiencing difficult times. My grandparents, may their memories be a blessing, prospered in the United States. Other survivors haven’t been as fortunate. I was astounded to learn that 25 percent of Holocaust survivors in the United States live in poverty, struggling to meet such basic needs as food, health care and housing.

    More so than others in their age bracket, survivors have difficulty living in assisted living or nursing home facilities. Some survivors show signs of delayed-onset post-traumatic stress disorder. Unfamiliar showers can lead some to have flashbacks of gas chambers, and uniformed staffers and regimented schedules stir up memories of concentration camps. The ability to age in place, in their own homes and communities, is critical.

    That’s why, upon arriving in Israel after an emotional journey through Berlin, the NYLC launched a fundraising effort to support the Jewish Federations’ Holocaust Survivor Fund, which helps local communities provide home health care, counseling, transportation, socialization, nutrition and emergency assistance.

    • Replies: @Flint Clint
  78. Miggle says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    There is Castle Hill Publishers, PO Box 243, Uckfield, TN22 9AW, Great Britain.

    It their street address were known they’d be firebombed by Jews, That hasn’t happened yet.

    They mention https://shop.codoh.com as the place to place your order. There’s also http://www.HolocaustHandbook.com possibly.

  79. @anonymous

    People would be sympathetic if the Holocaust wasn’t used as a tool for coercion, control, and oppression. People would also be more sympathetic if people like Elie Wiesel and so many others hadn’t told such egregious lies about the Holocaust. People would also be more sympathetic if the Jews didn’t spit on their dead – as in the case of the Poles here. I lost relatives on the Burma death march. Jews tell me their suffering exceeds there’s. They are grievously mistaken. Jews need to learn humility and respect for others. They have none, they offer none. They are a people of absolute solipsism and pride and false victimhood. It’s disgraceful. Have they no shame? How dare they impugn Poland’s war dead, so many millions, whilst they force upon others the most ridiculous lies and cry out in pain as they strike you.

  80. @Henry Kujawa

    “They wanted to kill ALL THE PEOPLE in Poland. EVERYONE.”

    Of course, you have evidence for this claim that you will share, right?

    No, your father’s photos are not evidence of Hitler’s desire to kill EVERYONE in Poland.

  81. @J

    “It is probable that after finishing off all Jews, the Nazis would follow with Slave peoples. In fact, the first victims of gas chambers were Russian prisoners of war.”

    Probable? That’s it, a mere assertion that it is probable?

    Hitler certainly did not think much of Slavs, but what evidence do you have that the Nazis would have killed them all?

    After all, they did not ‘finish off all the Jews’. Even if you believe the standard holocaust narrative, there were mischlings everywhere in Germany. The intelligence services had a coterie of full Jews, there were half-Jewish officers in the army, the Chabad Lubavitchers had free passes to roam around Germany, and the Havaraa agreement resulted in many Jews leaving Germany.

    To my knowledge, they didn’t try to do so. Were I Hitler, I would have immediately assassinated the members of all the Jewish masonic/banking families as soon as the war was on.

    • Replies: @J
  82. @Wally

    ‘…And you have no proof whatsoever for a single laughably alleged ‘gassing’, as I have demonstrated…’

    Out of curiosity, Wally, do you deny the reality of the Nazis’ T4 program — the gassing of mental defectives, the hopelessly crippled, etc?

    • Replies: @Theodore
    , @Wally
    , @Wally
  83. Miggle says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I’ve read a credible claim that no-one was gassed, that the Zyclon B actually saved Jewish lives. The gassing was of clothes only. Yes, perhaps Jews had to strip naked and their clothes were thrown into a little gas chamber. But that way they were saved from the raging typhus plague which was transmitted by lice in the clothes.

    But one can easily see how Jews who knew this, perhaps Jews who were saved that way, would pounce on the opportunity that provided to invent lies claiming the gassing of Jews. Very Jewish Modus Operandi.

    You say you were gassing lice, but you call us Jews lice. You were gassing Jews.

    But there also appear to be detailed German records of the deaths in the camps, the statistics, the numbers, month by month. Because of the typhus epidemic, Zyclon B, from which hydrogen cyanide gas can be generated, was shipped to the camps. And the stats show a sudden drop in the rate of Jewish deaths then. (Indirect source: Nick Kollerstrom, Breaking the Spell.)

    So the Poles had better be careful about claiming their share of the gassing deaths. Apparently there were zero gassing deaths. The Poles could be made to look very stupid.

  84. Can’t have them dumb pollacks ride my gravy train to Jerusalem and beyond. Now that is THE original sin in our new religion of holocaustinity

  85. Gall says:

    Wikipedia is about as much of an encyclopedia as Madonna (the singer) is a virgin. Hasberra clowns can have it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  86. @animalogic

    Try explaining that to a Polish person – the visceral reaction shows they perfectly understand to have been murderously duped.

  87. Nodwink says:
    @renfro

    I saw an ad online a few weeks ago, offering legal services for ‘second-generation holocaust survivors’. This thing is going to continue until the Germans put their foot down.

  88. jasmin says:

    There is Jewish history, by which I mean propaganda written by the Jews, and there is real history. The Jews believe that only Jewish suffering matters because it is a direct offense against God. This is because the whole purpose of creation was to create the Jew, and God created non-Jews only in order to serve the Jews.

    This holocaust nonsense is one big hoax. There were no gas chambers and Jews were not cremated alive nor were they rendered into lamp shades and soap.

  89. anastasia says:

    In order to accept and swallow whole things like gas chambers, lampshade and the soap stories, you have to simply take in what the authorities tell you and be too busy and distracted to think about the matter for any length of time. Not knowing anything about war is also helpful. If you do have time to reflect on the matter, you can readily see just how silly these stories are. I am ashamed for ever having believed these stories. People don’t look for evidence after they have been told just how “mean” Hitler was. This is what we are taught first – that he was “mean”; that he was a “maniac”, that he “hated” the Jews enough to commit genocide. It doesn’t take much after that to swallow any ole soap, lampshade or gas chamber story.

    But if you do have time to reflect on the story, you soon see how ridiculously false it is. The Germans, a mostly Christian country, made a plan to genocide millions of people, and instead of figuring out an efficient process (which would have to be elaborate) to accomplish the job, they gave a “pesticide” double duty to act as an agent of genocide of millions? And while being told this silly story, we are also simultaneously told that this “pesticide” was ALSO used for the purposes intended – to disinfect clothes and barracks. And if you really intend on commiting genocide of millions with gas chambers, why go through such an effort in futility by disinfecting clothes and barracks. It doesn’t make a lick of sense. We are led to believe that the Germans cut everyone’s hair because they wanted hair to stuff mattresses and make lampshades before they “gassed” these millions. But we are simultaneously told that they cut hair because of the problem of lice. Whty would they be concerned about “lice”, or diseases like typhus, that is known to kill people living in concentrated quarters. More men during the civil war were killed by typhus, than by bullets. \

    We are told that there was an energy problem in Germany during the war, but at the same time we are told that the crematories were running night and day, and that they even used their precious fuel to burn bodies in pits? The Germans are fighting a two front war, need people to work in factories, but they have time and inclination to kill millions of people in gas chambers and then have to worry about disposing of the bodies? Recipes for soap require oil, lye and water, but instead, while fighting a two-front war, with energy problems, they decide to make soap by boiling human bodies? Requires a few minutes of thought, and after that, no one would believe these ridiculous stories.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
  90. @Gall

    ‘Wikipedia is about as much of an encyclopedia as Madonna (the singer) is a virgin. Hasberra clowns can have it.’

    Wikipedia is kind of like MacDonalds et al.

    People complain about fast food chains, but they can be awfully convenient.

  91. @Gilad Atzmon

    Yes, 1984 in full bloom. This is why people such as Gilad Atzmon can publish only on the Internet, their extremely important truth-telling books are banned everywhere, no one invites them on TV – censorship! No one even invites them to cocktail parties anymore.

    But the truth will prevail. Thanks to a couple of brave gentiles such as Ron Unz, the voice of the dissident truth-speakers won’t be silenced. All gentiles of the world – unite!

    The Jews are coming!

    • Replies: @Miggle
  92. @Twodees Partain

    Perhaps not. I am not planning to. Have other, more interesting things to do.

    • Replies: @Adelaar
  93. Art says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    In Athens they teach you how to think , in Jerusalem to tell you what to say …

    Hmm — all those educated Israelis can not even hold an sucsessful election. Things are coming apart.

  94. Tusk says:
    @The Dark Night

    Yet the virtuous Anne Frank managed to survive being gassed only to die of something as mundane as typhus…
    If only there was a pest control regime to stop those pesky lice!

    • Replies: @Saggy
  95. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Schiff looks like a lunatic, with those bulging eyes. He also looks like a bobble-head doll with that little pencil neck and the big head. Anyone who looks like him is definitely a beneficiary of vote fraud. People don’t willingly vote for someone who looks like a bobble-head doll with lunatic eyes, y’know.

    • Replies: @Art
  96. Miggle says:
    @The Dark Night

    Yes, 1984 in full bloom. This is why people such as Gilad Atzmon can publish only on the Internet, their extremely important truth-telling books are banned everywhere, no one invites them on TV – censorship! No one even invites them to cocktail parties anymore.

    The Wandering Who? (and presumably his other books) is published by Zero Books, a trade name of John Hunt Publishing Ltd of Alresford, Hants, SO24 9JH, UK. The Zero Books website is http://www.o-books.com.

    The Wandering Who? has blurbs by Professor Richard Falk, Ramzy Baroud, and 10 others with distinguished credentials.

    • Replies: @The Dark Night
  97. Wally says:
    @donut

    The Big Lie continues to fall apart.

    recommended text & video:

    Atef Abu Roub researcher for Human rights group B’tselem ‘denies’ the Holocaust:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12782

  98. Art says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Schiff looks like a lunatic, with those bulging eyes

    It is not so hard to believe, but the Dems have turned America’s fortunes over to that lying Jew – Schiff. They put him in charge of impeacment. Clearly, Schiff is a member of the security state.

    The Jew led “US Security State” runs America primarily through the Dem Party.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  99. Anon[304] • Disclaimer says:

    The ironic part of this is that such widely-known Jewish propaganda efforts compound in their broad social effect over time, to the current point wherein anything that organized Jewry touches, like WWII death narratives, now ever-increasingly smells and looks like shit to the general public.

    No one can carry on open propaganda efforts and, over time, and not discredit anything that they say just by the nature of their saying it.

    Propaganda is meant to be subtle and detection free in order to remain effective. Since WWII, the Jews have been nothing but ham-fisted in that propaganda (believe it or lose your job / go to jail), consistently self contradictory, and openly interested in putting self interest over truth. Anything that they speak on they now poison because their credibility is in the toilet and it isn’t coming out anytime soon.

    Case in point. This article describes Jewish complaints about supposed Polish deception because Jewishdeathsarethemostimportantdeaths.

    However, just a few years ago, representatives of institutional political Jewry admitted to Simon Wiesenthal’s fabrication of 5 million non-Jewish deaths that were invented because it was in Jewish interests to fabricate them at the time, and then it was in Jewish interests to admit their fabrication (because Jewishdeathsarethemostimportantdeaths; and people were tending to lose sight of that fact in their estimation).

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/

    Jews will say (and probably do) literally anything that they perceive advances their interests. Invent the deaths of others and then disavow that tactic, invent their own deaths and then endlessly adjust the numbers, methods, and every other detail as science catches up to their lies.

    We currently live in Clown World, but the primary symptom of that World isn’t the social values degeneracy that critics like to point to. The primary symptom of Clown World is that we have a large mass of clearly criminal people at the center of our governments and institutions, who will endlessly tolerate obvious shenanigans like those by the Jews that are never punished, one hoax after another meant to depose a sitting President, and the Jewish media’s centrality to all of it. It’s one giant endless game by children who think that their theater looks like something other than a child’s endlessly looping backyard production. Where are the serious people?

    What we need is a no nonsense deep house cleaning led by the United States military. After which any such obvious deception and treason will be punished with the harshest of consequence. After which no religion shall be allowed in the United States that has the slightest measure of non-public esoteric belief (Islam and Judaism). We need to know what the deepest beliefs of our neighbors are before we can call them neighbor.

  100. Anon[258] • Disclaimer says:

    The attack dogs have been allowed off of their chain. Which refers to the United States State Department and Senate, slaves of World Jewry, as well as the Jewish Press.

    Poland must be behind on its extortion payments to Jewry.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/259042

    https://matzav.com/88-us-senators-call-on-poland-to-pay-holocaust-victims-for-property-stolen-by-nazis/

    Shame on the Poles. Don’t they know that failing to pay the Jews (or failing to recognize their supremacy, failing to adhere to Jewish social poison, failing to eventually cede all of your land, etc) leads to ethnic character assassination in the Jewish press?

    Shame on the Poles.

  101. Alfred says:

    The Germans were desperately short of manpower and all sources of energy. In that situation, you do not kill people of working age. As for the story that they killed women and children first, the fact that there are still so many living Jews who claim to have been kids in the camps reveals the truth.

    Neither Churchill not Eisenhower nor de Gaulle mentioned gas chambers in their memoirs of the war.

  102. J says: • Website
    @jbwilson24

    I am glad you, or anyone, disputes the fact that the Nazis professed the ideology of Lebensraum (Living Space) and intended to colonize the East, that is, Poland, Ukraine and Russia. The progress of the resettlement program was quite advanced ny 1942-44. The Sudeten (South Czechia today) was cleansed from the Slave (Czech) natives and resettled by racial Germans. The same took place in Western Poland – Polish owned farms were given to German peasants. Himmler’s movile Special Groups that followed the Wehrmacht killed about a million Jews and methodically documented their work. It appears that they killed Jews without distinction, but also non-Jewish Communist commisars, intellectuals and educated Poles. In absolute numbers, they killed about the same number of Poles as Jews. In the book “Hitler’s Willing…” it is documented that the German reserve police unit was given killing quotas “800 Jews and 800 Poles” as reprisal for some partisan action, and the quotas were filled. There was an active Polish armed resistance but there was also widespread assistance to the Germans.

    The Germans documented everything, and there is not a word about gas chambers in Warshaw. The Wikipedia article is fake, fake, fake.

    Should the war turned out well for the Nazis, it is quite possible the deportations to Auschwitz from Warshaw would have resumed. this time, with ethnic Poles. Fortunately, the Red Army liberated Warshaw before that.

  103. @Colin Wright

    I know a film, Volhynia. The book it is based on has not been translated but I know it’s called Hatred and is a historical fiction. Stanisław Srokowski wrote it. This film is good.

  104. @Miggle

    See?

    You can publish anything.

  105. Wally says: • Website
    @J

    You are all talk. You simply have no proof for your ridiculous claims, hence you did not present any.
    It’s claimed by Zionists like yourself that many, many millions of human remains exist in known locations, but they do not.
    Auschwitz:
    – An “extermination camp” where thousands of Jews chose to stay behind when the Germans left.
    – An “extermination camp” where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.
    – An “extermination camp” where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.
    – An “extermination camp” where many Jews gave birth.
    – An “extermination camp” where the absurdly alleged homicidal ‘gas chambers’ could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically impossible.
    – An “extermination camp” where fake ‘gas chambers’ were “reconstructed” AFTER THE WAR.
    – An “extermination camp” where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.
    – An “extermination camp” where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    see:
    Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669
    – An “extermination camp” where there are countless Jew “survivors”, yet the fake narrative says ‘the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on.’
    -An “extermination camp” where so called “survivors” say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.
    Jewish ‘Survivors’ of Auschwitz-Birkenau / not what we’re told, by John Wear
    Inconvenient History, v. 10, n.2, 2018: http://inconvenienthistory.com/10/2/5482
    ‘Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Birkenau’, by Master Chemist Germar Rudolf:
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html
    Auschwitz—The Surprising Hidden Truth: http://codoh.com/library/document/1527
    The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/6BZkbNsXvICv/

  106. Only jews make good lamp shades, everyone else not so good.. its either too small or too big.. jews are just the right size to fit. Which is why after pygmies, jews are always welcome to dinner.. They are the after dinner desert.. The main course always require a pygmy on a stick..

  107. Saggy says: • Website
    @Tusk

    Yet the virtuous Anne Frank managed to survive being gassed only to die of something as mundane as typhus…

    There is no actual evidence that Anne Frank died of typhus, and there is probable evidence that she survived the war …. this picture was taken by the Brits as they approached Belsen …..The children pictures are a Jewish children from Amsterdam now known as the diamond children and the woman in the back is Luba Tryszynska who took care of them. Note the girl in the lower left, shown below beside a picture of Anne Frank ….Same girl?

  108. Israeli Holocaust Museum – There’s no Physical Evidence of the Holocaust


    Ephraim Kaye, a director at Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Israel confirms there’s no physical evidence of the holocaust.




  109. Theodore says:
    @Colin Wright

    Wally, do you deny the reality of the Nazis’ T4 program — the gassing of mental defectives, the hopelessly crippled, etc?

    This is quite a different story. Euthanasia and eugenic programs were common at the time. The Americans and others had similar practices. The majority of US states had, at one point, mandatory eugenics sterilization policies.

    Recommended:

    Evidence for the German Euthanasia Program Compared to the Holocaust
    https://codoh.com/library/document/4885/

    Excerpt:
    “German doctors determined that carbon monoxide gas was the most painless and humane way to euthanize people. The use of carbon monoxide gas therefore became the standard technique to kill people in the adult euthanasia program, with the first killings probably beginning in January 1940. Dr. Karl Brandt, Albert Widmann, Dr. Leonardo Conti and others all stated that they determined carbon monoxide gas to be the most humane method of euthanizing adults…
    No such planning has been found regarding the use of homicidal gas chambers in German concentration camps.”

  110. Dube says:
    @animalogic

    …a “blank-cheque” … it’s as if the allies were knowingly offering a poisoned chalice.

    Thrilling melodrama. But please cite the blanque cheque language in the document.

  111. Dube says:
    @Theodore

    Can’t even get Poland to resume the forensic dig at Jedwabne, which was shut down suddenly and prematurely. Thus the conviction in German courts of Hermann Schaper for that massacre of Jews is overlooked in favor of the bestseller reports and the ongoing reviews of the reports and a movie that the Poles did it.

    The shutdown of the forensic investigation occurred in response to an appeal made on religious grounds regarding the Jewish remains. Not all Jewish authorities agree with that appeal, but that’s how things stand.

  112. augusto says:
    @Henry Kujawa

    Scusami, Mr Kujawa, but among other things, D.D. Eisenhower signed with his hand an order in occupied germany ordering to shoot anyone who:
    1- helped with food… any german prisoners in american camps -mostly male and only partly ex soldiers
    2- anyone , american or german whoever, even stocked or piled up food in the vicinity of those camps.

    Yes, the order was for starvation, plain and simple, Written in german and sticked to lamp posts. There are documents, former Us soldiers witnessing and a book by a canadian researcher. And starvation prevailed, aside from plain robbery of german machinery, blueprints and tools bound for the US, UK, France and Urss.
    So the ridiculous things is the monopoly of victimhood by the jewish people.

  113. The Jewish-Polish relationship is interesting.

    As Norman Davies noted in his two-volume history of Poland, the alliance between the Polish Szlachta (aristocracy) and the Jews was very profitable for both of them and quite inimical to the interests of the peasantry and the non-Jew middle class. Davies’ book so enraged the Jew that he intervened surreptitiously with Stanford University to see that Davies was disinvited from a professorship at he had been offered.

    Then there’s the interesting history of the Polock Joke. This was quite a cultural appurtenance of the 1970s. It basically and hatefully mocked Poles for stupidity, cowardice, etc. The funny thing is that the origin of the Polock Joke has never really been clear. Even the poor Poles have tried to blame it on the Nazis–thinking that they could get some victimization credits for that. But of course, “humor” of that sort was never a hallmark of National Socialism (or really of Germans in general.) Clearly, the Polock Joke originated with Polish Jews, expressing in surreptitious Jew fashion their loathing for the Polish peasant.

    Of course, the modern Pole, like his peasant forbearer, doesn’t like the Jews. Why should he? The folk memories of Jewish tax farming, slave trading, loan sharking and rack-renting on behalf of absentee Szlachta land lords has never disappeared. So I’m sure most Poles were not that sorry to hear rumors of what was going on at Auschwitz, though they wouldn’t admit to it in today’s environment.

    These days, just to show the Poles who’s in charge, our Jews got themselves a Jew as US ambassador to Poland who couldn’t resist rubbing in Jew dominance by giving Poles a Passover greeting in Polish before an Easter greeting earlier this year. Meanwhile, our Shylocks are seeing if they can turn Poland into a reparations cash cow as they have Germany. Oh well–Jews gonna Jew!

    Let’s see if our Jews can eventually alienate Poles to the point that they are driven to overcome their fear and loathing of Russia.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Matra
  114. @donut

    Initially I thought this comment might be a fed post.

    • Replies: @donut
  115. lysias says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    People need to learn to read books in other languages. I just finished reading Pedro Banos’s “Asi se domina el mundo” in the original Spanish, complete with the references to the Rothschilds. A couple of years ago, I had no trouble buying and reading the German original of Udo Ulfkotte’s “Gekaufte Journalisten” (“Bought Journalists”). I have a German-language translation of Solzhenitsyn’s “200 Years Together”.

    • Replies: @lysias
    , @Colin Wright
  116. lysias says:
    @lysias

    By the way, a comparison between the Spanish original and the English translation of Banos’s book reveals many other omissions in the translation besides the passage (on the richest families in the world) that mentions the Rothschilds.

  117. @JoyRide

    ‘The Eagle Unbowed’

    Thanks. Added to my Christmas list.

  118. @anonymous

    ‘The Holocaust did not become a proper noun until after the 1967 war.
    Your youth — wasted in Holocaust unawareness.’

    The irony is that I was aware of the Holocaust. My father had a huge collection of books on World War Two, and I was an early and voracious reader.

    So I knew all about the Holocaust by 1967. It’s just that I hadn’t been taught that it was not a historical fact, to be arrayed amongst other historical facts, but rather an object of religious significance, to be venerated and served — preferably by supporting Israel.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  119. @lysias

    ‘I have a German-language translation of Solzhenitsyn’s “200 Years Together”.’

    When that appears in English, I’ll be able to take claims that we have a free press seriously again.

  120. @Oscar Peterson

    ‘…Then there’s the interesting history of the Polock Joke. This was quite a cultural appurtenance of the 1970s. It basically and hatefully mocked Poles for stupidity, cowardice, etc. The funny thing is that the origin of the Polock Joke has never really been clear…’

    Polack. But curiously, your assertion matches my recollection. The one and only Polack joke I can recall. I heard in about 1977. It was pretty good, too…

    Oh alright. So. Fred’s telling the joke. ‘How does a Pole tie his shoe?’

    You dunno. So Fred clomps over to a chair in clumsy dignity, plants his foot on the seat of the chair — then bends down to the ground and starts tying the shoe on the foot that’s still on the floor.

    Well, it seemed pretty funny at the time.

    You know, it used to be okay to tell these jokes…

  121. @Colin Wright

    Thanks.

    Yes, it’s interesting that at the time, it never occurred to me to ask, “Why are the jokes about Poles instead of any other group?”

    But once you know the history of Poland, trace the immigration flows to the US and look at who published these joke books, it becomes very clear.

    So pathetic that some Poles try to attribute their origin to the Nazis. As if!

  122. @Colin Wright

    Hah, my cousin told (demonstrated) that joke to me when I was about 10. I laughed hard. I have always gotten a good response from it even in later years as an adult.

    • Replies: @Dube
  123. Dube says:
    @silviosilver

    Whom do you posit as the butt of the joke? And why?

  124. Wally says:
    @Colin Wright

    Cut the crap.
    Euthanasia was and is commonplace worldwide. Putting suffering incurables out of their misery was / is the morally right thing to do.

    NS Germany’s T4 program, which was used in consultation with the families of the suffering individuals, is dishonestly claimed by Zionists to have been a lead-in to the absurd ‘gas chambers’ claim.

    There is no proof that incurables were gassed, the process was done via injection as is done everywhere today. Germany was very open about the T4 program, there was nothing sinister or coercive about it.
    It needs to be said that Hitler responded to eventual protest from Catholics and cancelled the program.

    All hysterical claims made by the corrupt “Holocaust Industry” are bogus and have been easily refuted.

    recommended: http://www.codoh.com

    I believe I also went into it a bit at:
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    Simple stuff really. Educate yourself before you comment.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  125. Wally says:
    @Colin Wright

    In my other response I said:
    “There is no proof that incurables were gassed, the process was done via injection as is done everywhere today.”

    By ‘no proof of gassing’ I meant no proof for cyanide gas being used as is falsely claimed by propagandists.
    The use of CO was rare, and eventually scrapped completely for injections.

  126. @Vinnie O

    ‘OK, I cite a book on the subject. You reply with a wild guess. Educated people don’t debate that way…’

    As I say, you didn’t cite a book, but it turns out you were righter than I was — at least, so far as we can tell at this juncture.

    I’ve been reading de Zayas’ singularly scrupulous The Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau.

    For the death toll among German civilians in Poland, de Zayas discusses the various reported incidents and cites a German Federal Republic study in the Sixties that came up with a final toll of three thousand and something identified victims. He notes that at that remove, the tally must have been very partial, and suggests six thousand as a possible total. The actual calculations the Germans made at the time — as opposed to the figure Goebbels manufactured and publicized — was five thousand and something — that were known.

    So your ten thousand is possible — if generous. My three hundred is indefensible.

    About the only point I’d continue to make is that although some deaths appear to have occurred before September 1, 1939, they were very few and apparently occurred in the weeks immediately preceding the German attack. The German rationale — that they had to invade to protect the German minority — remains untenable. The German minority only became seriously endangered as a consequence of the German attack itself.

  127. Vinnie O says:

    Read “Orphans of Versailles” by Richard Blanke. I read it 20 years ago or something. It should still be in the basement somewhere, unless it was eaten by the Trolls or lost in one of the periodic floods.

    The 10,000 is only the especially large number of ethnic German Polish citizens who were killed in 1939 alone. Hundreds, thousands more individuals were killed in prior years. But the important thing to understand is that the Versailles Treaty was about PUNISHING Germans. So no one, most especially the League of Nations, was going to object to the Polish government mistreating its ethnic minorities.

    There was a similar Polish campaign against Jewish Poles. And so Herschel Grynszpan, the 17-year-old who assassinated Ernst vom Rath at the German embassy in Paris in 1938, was a Jew whose family had been expelled from Poland without any of the paperwork needed to apply for citizenship in another country (e.g., France, England, USA, etc.).

    Germans were similarly expelled (after all of their property in Poland had been seized) without paperwork, but the German government had a special agency in Berlin to welcome them home and renew their German citizenship.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  128. @Wally

    ‘…There is no proof that incurables were gassed, the process was done via injection as is done everywhere today…’

    Incurables are put to death everywhere today?

    Your mania for indiscriminately defending the Third Reich against all charges, no matter how justified, is baffling. Abusing me doesn’t make your case stronger, either. It merely confirms my decision to ignore your posts.

    • Replies: @Wally
  129. @Vinnie O

    ‘…There was a similar Polish campaign against Jewish Poles. And so Herschel Grynszpan, the 17-year-old who assassinated Ernst vom Rath at the German embassy in Paris in 1938, was a Jew whose family had been expelled from Poland without any of the paperwork needed to apply for citizenship in another country (e.g., France, England, USA, etc.)…’

    This differs significantly from my understanding. Grynszpan’s parents were Polish Jews who had been residing in Germany. When Germany expelled all such Polish Jews, Poland wouldn’t take them back. The Jews wound up literally stranded between the two customs posts, living in the fields.

    It would be another case where, yes, the Poles behaved badly — but that doesn’t justify German misbehavior, and certainly didn’t justify Kristallnacht.

  130. Vinnie O says:

    In 1918, you either had German citizenship or Russian citizenship, since there was no country of Poland. After Versailles, a whole buncha people should have, automatically, had Polish citizenship because they “came with the land”. However, the new government in Warsaw started saying that residents of Poland who were not ethnically Poles were not entitled to Polish citizenship. So they MUST still be German citizens. The government in Berlin rejected that logic and refused to issue German passports to “foreigners”. Berlin did, however, have a large, active program to welcome and resettle ethnic Germans in Germany.

    Germany also had a very active diplomatic program to assist documented German Jews to legally emigrate from Germany. It was run by an office of the SS, and so for a number of years we had the odd situation of what would become the Mossad working closely with the SS to settle Jews in Palestine. See “Jewish Emigration from the Third Reich” by Ingrid Weckert. Since the Arab Palestinians vigorously protested to the English running the “Mandate” immigration by Jews, it was common for various Jewish organization to smuggle ex-German Jews into Palestine.

    But it was not simply Arabs who didn’t want Jews. The general problem was that NO ONE IN THE WORLD wanted more Jews than they already had. This included England, France, and the USA. See, for example, “Refuge Denied: The St. Louis Passengers and the Holocaust” by Sarah Ogilvie (my copy is winging its way to me through the mails). There is also a discussion of “the voyage of the damned” in Wikipedia under “St. Louis” (the ship).

    I have a book someplace that describes the HORRIBLE treatment of ex-German Jews who made it to Britain. Surely there was plenty of room in Canada, etc. The USA had of course rewritten its immigration laws after WW1, and the new laws had strict quotas based on nationality.

    But it’s been some time since I was digging into the pre-war situation in Europe. Right now I’m playing with what happens if Giuseppe Zangara (I have a biography of him SOMEPLACE) had killed president-elect Franklin Roosevelt instead of Chicago’s Mayor Cermak in Miami 1933. FDR’s VP-elect, Cactus Jack Garner from Texas, would then have been inaugurated as President, and almost EVERYTHING about the 1930s changes. And of course the USA doesn’t enter WW2.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  131. Miggle says:
    @Colin Wright

    Leon Uris in Exodus (1958) writes of “the dance of the six million”, but I’m not sure what he means.

  132. @Wally

    I read an essay on the German euthanasia program that claimed that, unlike the HolyHoax, there was plenty of evidence that mentally retarded persons were put to death as humanely as possible through Co2. The Doctor in charge of the program testified at Nuremberg and his defense was that it was government legislation and it was all legal. They used co2 gas in trials and found it the most effective AND painless.

    While I don’t think euthanasia is a good idea I can understand families being in a position where they are unable to afford to care for a child with an illness or retardation. I imagine this continues to be a difficult thing for parents, many of whom would choose abortion given that information in early pregnancy.

    If anything, the documentation on the euthanasia program completely undermines the holyhoax. The use of co2, the abundance of documents, etc. The HolyHoax story falls apart on so many technical points it is just ludicrous and laughable at this point. Far, far more outrageous a fable than it was in 1945.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Fran Taubman
  133. @Vinnie O

    ‘… But it was not simply Arabs who didn’t want Jews. The general problem was that NO ONE IN THE WORLD wanted more Jews than they already had…’

    It’s important to bear in mind that this was before the Holocaust. Naturally, Jews wanted to get out of Germany — but it wasn’t a matter of life and death.

    It’s not as if someone was going to kill them…

    It also needs to be borne in mind that, along with other forms of bigotry, anti-semitism — particularly a kind of mild anti-semitism — was perfectly acceptable in many or most circles.

    The Holocaust gave anti-semitism a bad name — but that had yet to come. At the time there wasn’t anything particularly horrific about Canada or anyone else declining to accept more Jews. Most nations discriminated freely between different classes of prospective immigrants. It was seen as one of the prerogatives of national sovereignty.

    This would have been all the more the case since the previous great publicized outbreak of anti-semitism — the pogroms of thirty-forty years earlier in the Russian Empire — had (a) turned out to be wildly exaggerated, and (b) produced a massive flood of Jewish immigration. It’s understandable that Canada, the United States, et al were cautious about how many Jews they were going to admit this time.

  134. Wally says:
    @Colin Wright

    You are such a bumbling dumb ass hack.

    It is a fact that euthanasia is worldwide, incurables are in fact put to death. That’s what euthanasia is.
    Countries Where Euthanasia is Legal: https://factualfacts.com/countries-euthanasia-legal/
    BTW, you ignored my clarification of the gassing claims in comment #129. No surprise.

    I defend the truth with facts.You are embarrassingly indoctrinated and get slapped silly whenever you try to debate me. You don’t like and I don’t care.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  135. Wally says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Indeed, I accept mentally incurables were euthanized upon family consultation. I and many others see no problem with that if they are hopelessly miserable and suffering. There are many grades of ‘retardation’,

    See my related comments to this:

    Evidence for the German Euthanasia Program Compared to the Holocaust, by John Wear:
    http://www.unz.com/article/evidence-for-the-german-euthanasia-program-compared-to-the-holocaust/

    Regards.

  136. @Wally

    You are such a bumbling dumb ass hack…

    …I defend the truth with facts.You are embarrassingly indoctrinated and get slapped silly whenever you try to debate me. You don’t like and I don’t care.

    Says it all, doesn’t it, Wally?

  137. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    While I don’t think euthanasia is a good idea I can understand families being in a position where they are unable to afford to care for a child with an illness or retardation. I imagine this continues to be a difficult thing for parents, many of whom would choose abortion given that information in early pregnancy.

    Difficult?? Are you mad?? It is called murder. Euthanasia is illegal for poverty, illness and retardation.
    In some countries Euthanasia is allowed however controversial for people who are dying and suffering from an incurable diseases, especially elderly people who are close to death and are suffering.

    • Agree: Miggle
  138. Matra says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Given that Polack jokes are only told in America it must have originated with someone there. Jews have long defined American comedy, as well as disliking Poles, so it makes sense that they originated with Jews originally from Poland.

    I’ve only heard two – or perhaps I can only remember two – and both came from the Jewish sitcom All in the Family:

    1) Why don’t they kill flies in Poland? Because of a law against killing the national bird.

    2) Why don’t they have ice cubes in Poland anymore? The guy that invented them died.

    Of course, in the show the writers would have you believe that bigoted Anglo-Protestants like Archie Bunker were the ones who told such jokes about Poles.

  139. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    If as their names indicate, these commenters are Jewish, they should be congratulated for getting outside their ethnic mythology. It can’t be easy for any Jew to deconstruct this Hoax. Praise is due

  140. @renfro

    and brothels, where women were

    Where does it say this? It’s not in the article or in the Wiki entry. And why do you assume they mean Jewish women?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  141. @Reality Cheque

    Why you ask?
    Because renfro is a racist, bigoted Neo Nazi SHO gets off denigrating Jews.
    Why you ask? He would not know the truth or it smacked him in the face. More important he doesn’t care about the truth or anything rational that might interfere with his lust for Jew hatred.

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