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Yesterday, prosecutors revealed that Jeffrey Epstein kept a fake Saudi passport in his home’s safe along with diamonds and piles of cash. It also emerged last week that Epstein invested millions in a deal with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Barak acknowledged to the Daily Beast that he, like other world leaders, visited Epstein’s Island and that he was first introduced to Epstein by Shimon Peres, former Israeli prime minister and president.

Barak’s high-tech company financed by the arch sex trafficker is called Carbyne. The Israeli enterprise develops “call-handling and identification capabilities for emergency response services,” essentially it seeks total access to your phone, its GPS system and its camera. This shouldn’t take us by surprise. By now we know that Epstein was very excited by cameras.

In a world with functioning media, the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post and every other Mainstream Media (MSM) outlet would compete mercilessly to dig out the dirt all the way from Epstein’s Island to Tel Aviv but, it seems our MSM is doing the opposite. It conceals the shame. It invests its energy into diverting attention from that which has become obvious to the wider public: Epstein wasn’t just a disgusting paedophile. It is likely that he was serving an intelligence agency and perhaps more than just one.

Four days ago one of the most courageous writers around, former CIA analyst Philip Giraldi, produced a detailed article dealing with the obvious question: was Epstein an Israeli spy? Giraldi ends his piece: “it will be very interesting to see just how far and how deep the investigation into Epstein and his activities goes. One can expect that efforts will be made to protect top politicians like Clinton and Trump and to avoid any examination of a possible Israeli role. That is the normal practice, witness the 9/11 Report and the Mueller investigation, both of which eschewed any inquiry into what Israel might have been up to. But this time, if it was indeed an Israeli operation, it might prove difficult to cover up the story since the pedophile aspect of it has unleashed considerable public anger from all across the political spectrum.”

I admire Giraldi and would like to think that he is correct here. In Britain, however, the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, pretty much collapsed when Lord Janner, became a centre of its focus. Lord Janner was a former chairman of the BOD, a Body that claims to represent British Jews. He was also the founder of the Holocaust Memorial Trust. Some people, so it seems, are either above the law or beyond scrutiny.

ORDER IT NOW

We may have to admit that in a world where the Labour Party is terrorised, in the open, by a foreign lobby, in a world where Penguin press stops publishing a book because it referred to the Rothschilds a as an ‘influential Jewish family,’ in a world where the British national broadcaster is reduced into a Zionist propaganda unit, no one in proximity to power dares to look into the possibility that the intelligence agency of a close ally might have invested millions if not billions of dollars in the formation of a spectacular blackmail apparatus that abused underage children through sex trafficking.

If Epstein wasn’t a lone operator, it is time to ask what his senders had in mind when they formed such a sex trafficking operation. Did they think of the possible consequences if the network were exposed? Did Ehud Barak or Shimon Peres consider the possible implications of their association with a convicted sex offender? Did they care about the possible ramifications to world Jewry, or Israel’s reputation, or Israel’s political affairs and its relationships with the USA? Did they have a plan B? Or maybe you don’t need a plan B in a world where the political class is deeply compromised and the mainstream media as a whole does little but veil the truth.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Blake says:

    Saudi passport? Lol israeli probably – couldn’t flee there fast enough

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Republic
    , @Why
  2. “Or maybe you don’t need a plan B in a world where the political class is deeply compromised and the mainstream media as a whole does little but veil the truth.”

    I am leaning in this direction.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  3. I’m sure Fran Taubman will produce yet another devastating rebuttal.

    Fran?

    • Replies: @A.R
    , @Truth3
  4. utu says:

    Pretty good take by this woman:

    The question is how Epstein was started and how he made his money? Or is his money fake?

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Anon
    , @Skeptikal
  5. The only way a Jew will do serious time is if he steals from other Jews, ala Bernie Madoff. Raping goyim children means nothing to them.

    • Agree: Haxo Angmark
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @jester
  6. Anonymous[681] • Disclaimer says:

    Mossad has dirt on every single one of our politicians thanks to operations like this one, and they know when and how to use it to twist and bend all our rich and powerful into submission. Plus they control all our banks. In short, they’ve got the western world by the balls, and there’s no need for Plan B, ever.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @The Scalpel
  7. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    Did they have a plan B? Or maybe you don’t need a plan B in a world where the political class is deeply compromised and the mainstream media as a whole does little but veil the truth.

    Well, that is a plan B, basically.

    Unfortunately for the Tribe, this level of control over the narrative nodes works perfectly – until it doesn’t. It offered too much protection for mistakes so they multiplied and grew in size to the point where the structure can’t carry the weight of incompetence and hubris.

    In short: the Tribe’s group strategy was always too comfortable and ultimately dysgenic. That’s why it failed so many times.

  8. Lol. It just gets worse.

    ‘…Ehud Barak, head of Israeli Democratic Party, was caught on camera entering the Manhattan townhouse of Jeffery Epstein with his face hidden, on the same day that a large group of women were seen entering the sex offender’s home, the Daily News reported Tuesday…’

    Nothing here. Move along.

    • Replies: @Republic
  9. @Blake

    and this is just the one they found…

  10. @utu

    She is incredible !!!

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Skeptikal
    , @RobinG
  11. @the grand wazoo

    Unless America’s survival instinct kicks in..

    • Replies: @Anon
  12. A.R says:
    @Colin Wright

    Aren`t you a bit too obsessed with Miss/Mrs Taubman?
    She is every bit as entitled to her opinions as you are. You are an intelligent man, but I think your behaviour is starting to get a little too childish when engaging with Miss/Mrs Taubman.
    Is she triggering you? Is that it?
    You should take a step back and quit acting like a bully. Smugness is not a sympatethic trait.
    Though the great majority of commenters are mostly on the same page it doesn`t mean dissenters should be treated as if they are vile, stupid or with nefarious intentions.
    You should remember that in “The Mainstream” our opinions are frowned upon. We are treated there exactly the way you so eagerly treat those here that you decide have opinions or motivations not to your particular liking.
    I believe This place is in no need of any self proclaimed Grand inquisitors.
    Miss/Mrs Taubman is jewish. She is proud of who she is. Is that a crime?
    The fact that she defends her people, her identity etc. from what she considers to be irrational and dangerous attacks is, in my opinion, both rational and understandable.
    I do not agree with her, but so what?
    Be careful not to become what you claim to be fighting and cease behaving like some entitled police officer. It is getting to be a bit tiring.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
  13. BuelahMan says:

    If Epstein goes down, one can rest assured that he screwed over the jew.

    I suspect that Trump is up to his eyeballs in this Epstein mess.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  14. MOSSAD MOTTO “By Way of Deception” has played us like fools with 911 magic.
    WWI + WWII was orchestrated to create state of Israel.
    WWIII will be orchestrated to expand Greater Israel to usher in the Anti-Christ Dajjal.
    Tel Lie Vised 911 EvangeLIED Santa Claus, Jesus died for my EVILS will once again join
    MOSSAD’s by way of DecEptein. All of them shall be taken for a ride to Hell with Mr Lucifer.
    IT’S JUST A COHENCIDENCE GOY!Make America Goy Again!

    1 +1 = 3 Buildings down

    Numbers don’t lie, people lie. The truth needs no laws to support it

    SATANYAHOO IS YOUR NEW BO$$

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @paranoidgoy
  15. melpol says:

    It is wrong to blame Jewry or Israel for the perversions of Epstein, he was sexually creative but not a blackmailer. Anal sex was the highlight of his parties. It was a guarantee that none of his girls would be filing paternity accusations. Epstein’s only reward was watching youngsters being sodomized by the rich and famous.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  16. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @A.R

    cease behaving like some entitled police officer

    Oh, the irony. It’s you who’s trying to tone-police the comment section.

    The fact that she defends her people, her identity etc. from what she considers to be irrational and dangerous attacks is, in my opinion, both rational and understandable.

    But she’s not defending her people. She’s only digging a deeper hole for herself and her tribesmen. The goyim know so these all-too-common Jewish attempts to jewsplain away every instance of Jewish malfeasance, criminality or psychopathy are counter-productive and ultimately irrational.

    Ron Unz is a rational Jew.

    • Replies: @jester
  17. David says:

    Here’s another Epstein tidbit. Steven Pinker contributed to his defense in 2007. Written by Epstein’s legal team, including Alan Dershowitz:

    “To confirm our view of the ‘plain meaning’ of the words, we asked” Pinker, “a noted linguist, to analyze the statute to determine the natural and linguistically logical reading or readings of the section,” the letter said. “We asked whether the statute contemplates necessarily that the means of communication must be the vehicle through which the persuading or enticing directly occurs. According to Dr. Pinker, that is the sole rational reading.”

    Pinker wasn’t concerned about the girls, obviously, but maybe he’s just totally committed to the rule-of-law.

    Think of how self-absorbed Jews are that they seriously appeal to Dr Pinker’s linguistic expertise. Thank God we have Jews! We’d be lost without them.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/07/17/steven-pinkers-aid-jeffrey-epsteins-legal-defense-renews-criticism-increasingly

  18. jester says:
    @the grand wazoo

    So right. One has to wonder though what would be the reaction if a bunch of horny white men traded and serviced young Jooish flesh.

    These perverts always subvert and corrupt the countries they live in. Its no wonder people dislike them intensely and they ultimately get kicked out of the countries they abuse and betray.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  19. @A.R

    ‘…Be careful not to become what you claim to be fighting and cease behaving like some entitled police officer. It is getting to be a bit tiring.’

    Yeah; but the alternative is to let her propagate her noxious lies, distortions, canards, hypocrisies, evasions, etc unchallenged.

    It’s sort of like Julius Streicher: okay, he wasn’t very bright, but that wouldn’t be a reason to allow him to rant unchallenged. It’s a matter of degree; others, I both disagree with and find mentally deficient — but they’re relatively harmless. I bite my tongue and ignore them.

    Fran Taubman’s brand of nonsense isn’t. I don’t bite my tongue.

  20. jester says:
    @Anonymous

    I doubt anyone cares about Tubman or whatever her stupid name is, being told. They play their games and we play ours. If she cannot take it ie if it is really a Joo she, then stay away from this blog.

    These folks like to attack others but get excited when they get a taste of their own medicine. They hide in the shadows, that is where they like to do their thing. The world gets more and more fed up with their antics.

    However I share the opinion that Unz comes from a different mold. Every tribe has its exceptions although theirs is an exception in that they seem to have fewer good ones than normal.

  21. A question I ask all the time, what is the blackmail the Jews use?
    Threat of collapsing finance? Suitcase nukes in their “embassies”?
    Threat to poison water supply or bio terrorism?

    I just don’t get why they all dance to this insane jewish tune, but the blackmail must be something very convincing, and I don’t think it is only pedophilia and child abuse.

    • Replies: @c matt
    , @Twodees Partain
  22. @David

    ‘Here’s another Epstein tidbit. Steven Pinker contributed to his defense in 2007. Written by Epstein’s legal team, including Alan Dershowitz…’

    We all tend to view the world in a way that justifies our behavior; and Dershowitz’ schtick seems to conflate what is right with what is legal. He is a lawyer; it follows that he would.

    So it tends to boil down to if you can’t prove it, it was okay. Given his own behavior, I suspect Dershowitz may actually believe that. It’s perfectly possible that he feels pretty good about whatever he did with Epstein — on the grounds that no one can prove he did it.

  23. @jester

    ‘So right. One has to wonder though what would be the reaction if a bunch of horny white men traded and serviced young Jooish flesh…’

    That would be surreal. I imagine we would have action in the UN Security Council.

  24. Epstein is a toast. I wonder if he’ll end up committing “suicide” under suspicious conditions. Things have gone too far …

  25. Partner of Jeffrey Epstein & Israeli former Prime Minister Ehud Barak –

    Appointed to UK NHS ‘Healthtech Advisory Board’

    And may be getting possession of all UK patient data to ‘help develop AI Artificial Intelligence’

    Nicole Junkermann, born 1975, is a German-born woman, educated in Monaco & at Harvard Business School, who is now hundreds of millions fabulously wealthy, ‘after developing an early online gaming platform’ in the late 1990s … and then acquired some rights re media of FIFA football … she is now based in London

    In 2002 she is proven on flight logs to have begun taking unusual private flights with Jeffrey Epstein

    Junkermann has been involved in, & buying etc., many companies, and is one of the 5 key directors of tech-spying-etc-related ‘Carbyne 911’ led by former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak … obviously heavily Mossad

    https://carbyne911.com/team/

    UK MP Matt Hancock, in 2018 became Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in the UK, and appointed Nicole Junkermann to the ‘Healthtech Advisory Board’

    One of the companies Junkermann has in her portfolio is OWKIN

    OWKIN is apparently to receive NHS patient data to ‘develop Artificial Intelligence’ and ‘improve healthcare’

    Journalist Johnny Vedmore summarises his fears, on the ‘Swamp’ media platform:

    « Nicole Junkermann appears to be a German-born Israeli state intelligence operative … This lady has recently infiltrated the NHS through the UK Department of Health and Social Care with the help of Matt Hancock MP, and her presence signifies a major threat to the data security of every citizen of the United Kingdom.

    Every single piece of data about you, your health issues, your blood type, the model of the wireless pacemaker keeping you alive, every detail of every embarrassing medical problem in the hands of the Israeli state apparatus and potentially sold off to the highest bidder. »

    https://theswamp.media/the-epstein-associate-nobody-s-talking-about-the-idf-linked-bond-girl-infiltrating-the-uk-nhs

  26. Republic says:
    @Blake

    Austrian passport with his picture and different name and Saudi visa.

    • Replies: @Gordo
  27. But wait! This just in!

    Somebody found a clip of Donald Trump socializing with Jeffrey Epstein at a party in 1992!

    I wonder if the whole ploy here is to make the Epstein thing go away by passing it off as yet another ineffectual attempt to smear Trump.

    • Replies: @Anon
  28. Publications like the Financial Times and the Wall Street Journal should have looked into Epstein’s business dealings decades ago.

    There were so many anomalies especially Towers Financial Corporation (TFC) which he once ran with Steven Hoffenberg.

    TFC turned out to be a Ponzi scheme. Over 200,000 investors lost $450 million. Hoffenberg went to prison for securities fraud. He has implicated Epstein who left TFC before it collapsed in 1993.

  29. Gordo says:
    @Republic

    So the Austrian government issues a false name passport to Epstein?

    If they didn’t, who made it?

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @utu
  30. Republic says:
    @Gordo

    Probably a real one. Probably someone paid off a low level embassy worker to get that passport.

  31. Republic says:
    @Colin Wright

    saw that story in The Daily Mail, why was Barak hiding his face? Did he expect to see Paparazzi there?
    What happened in 2016 to caused such a long Paparazzi stakeout?

    I thought that Jews were smart, why didn’t he go in the back door?

  32. Truth3 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Fran is now going by the handle ‘Linda’.

    FRAN stood for…

    FALSE RIPOSTES AND NONSENSE.

    LINDA stands for…

    LOVES ISRAELIS NOT DUMB AMERICANS.

  33. c matt says:
    @Germanicus

    Power is their crack. They get you money + position which = power, and then once you are hooked on the “good life” threaten to take it away, with a large helping of humiliation on the side. And make sure it is all very public. That’s why they dance bro.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  34. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    In finance, you see people that you can think were helped out, and somehow find the time to be sucessful and very active socially. In times of market crises, they don’t go under, and it’s not always clear how they avoided shipwreck. An answer: “it’s not the know-how, but the know-who.” Soros was probably propped up in the beginning. It’s very hard to get your first billion in finance otherwise.

    Politicians, nothing they like better than a little network. The more exclusive, the better. The women are a plus, also as in “I know your dark side, buddy”.

    In human terms, Epstein is best explained like a professional info-gatherer, also someone who oils the network. Mossad and/or other agencies. The question is not how he made his money, but why the renewed prosecution/coverage. Question even the whole me-too coverage. Cui bono?

    This woman.. she is trying to piece together the network, and is fishing for an intention, the thing that motivates the network. But she skids all over the place.

    If one is a sicko who abuses women, one can hand them over to be abused by others.. In Epstein’s case, the point would be to have more info on those other groups. What are their appetites? It’d be useful to know if Hillary engages in ritual sex magic with teens. Doesn’t mean that Epstein acted like he did because he is a disciple of Crowley and promotes sex magic per se.

    Of course people do say she dabbles in the occult.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  35. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Hrrmph.. America’s too confused. It would have to be Divine Providence itself!

  36. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    They’ve been trying that since just after DailyMail publication of Cinton w/Epstein, if not before. But it doesn’t quite stick. Plus you can see Trump is wary in the video.

  37. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Osama Bin Lying

    So this site is also going to be used to track and understand occultists now??

  38. utu says:
    @Gordo

    “If they didn’t, who made it?” – Mossad steals passports or have them legally issued on ppoepl who not likely o travel or ever want to have a passport like invalids. See the 2004 case of passports in New Zealand:

    2004 Israel–New Zealand passport scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

    2005 Aircraft failure leaves Clark bruised and shaken
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10120387

    2011 – Mossad spy ring ‘unearthed because of Christchurch earthquake’
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/8649223/Mossad-spy-ring-unearthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html

    2011- “two Israeli teams arrived in Christchurch: an unaccredited urban search and rescue team that was escorted from the CBD after they were found in a restricted area, and a forensics team that allegedly had access to a national police database”
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10739852

    2015 – Jihadis from New Zealand? Who does recruitment and radicalization?
    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/new-zealands-jihadis

    2016- Netanyahu ‘told New Zealand backing UN vote would be declaration of war’ (2016)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/28/netanyahu-told-new-zealand-backing-un-vote-would-be-declaration-of-war

    2017 -Israel permanently downgrades its ties to New Zealand
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-permanently-downgrade-ties-to-new-zealand-senegal/

    2018 – Jacinda Ardern says US embassy in Jerusalem hurts peace process, as dozens of Palestinians are killed
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/103901797/jacinda-ardern-says-us-embassy-in-jerusalem-not-way-towards-resolution

  39. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The beauty of the situation is that it is done with our own money. US politicians know that when they give money to certain foreign governments as “aid” it will be returned to them as kickbacks, offshore business deals, family favors, sexual favors. The foreign governments record everything to keep the cycle going, if necessary, with blackmail. But usually that is not necessary because the benefits accrued to our corrupt political class makes them willing participants. so the viscous cycle continues and grows.

  40. My gut feeling: Epstein will get the same punishment as the Israelis who bombed USS Liberty. At worst, a slap on the wrist in the form of a suspended sentence so he can go back to his favorite pastime, pedophilia.

  41. Skeptikal says:
    @A.R

    A.R. = Obnoxios tone police troll
    Mind your own business.

  42. Skeptikal says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Yes, she is good.
    Some of these connections have also appeared over at Moon of Alabama.
    Lots of interesting links there, too.
    One of the big questions: How did Epstein get linked up with the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, and Harvard? Who were those organizations’ “madams” who got Epstein into these inner circles of American and world power?

  43. HBM says:
    @David

    There’s always the chance Pinker could be Mossad, too. Maybe he didn’t have anything to do with Epstein’s blackmail business, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he was an agent himself. One has to imagine Israel has made the call to lots and lots of prestigious American Jews.

    And, yeah– it’s that Semitic sexual predator thing at work; it sees White women and girls as prey, as something vulnerable and naive, something justifiably defiled. It’s not just Muslims.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Druid
  44. Tony Ryals says: • Website

    Don’t forget the Jeffrey Eptein,Ehud Barak,Nicole Junkermann,Carbyne,Google,UK NHS,Israeli Mossad connections.And for that matter don’t forget the Gilad Atzmon,Menachem Atzmon,ICTS International,Huntleigh rent-a-cops,Logan Airport,Boston 9/11 connections and their Bibi Netanyahu,Likud Party money laundering connections……..

  45. I’m interested in what the Judge says tomorrow (Thursday) about whether they will allow Jeffrey boy to post Bail or not. If he gets to post bail then I would expect to wake up one morning to news that Jeffrey boy escaped….likely to Israel (Like Polanski). We’ll see.

    In the meantime, you know something is amiss in the “deep state” when there is obviously a power struggle going on within it.

    • Replies: @freedom-cat
  46. The saga continues…

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  47. Yesterday, prosecutors revealed that Jeffrey Epstein kept a fake Saudi passport in his home’s safe

    Hah, a bone to pick. James Bond before international database systems titbit.

    A current passport is not checked against falsaries in it´s phenotype. The data present inside the booklet can be checked against the database directly real-time. These data are in part not visible to the consumer of the passport. Saudi in case, not aware of any details, might not be a digitized version, that would be a fallacy in the case of such a petrol soaked state, and point as much to intentional complicity. That would also be an explicit invitation to any intelligence agency.

    In short, complicity of administrative services is required. In the case of passports from say the EU, or US, details of where, who at what location, what service, who it was administered to, the details on what matches and not, can all be traced in milliseconds from any data end with the appropriate software with the right access code. Complicity is key. That´s the real story.

    It is amazing that peddling details as such, writing linear articles as such, of mr. Atzmon and others, is still not bucked by the global commoners. There is really a need to believe in fairy tales. More so at sweltering summer, potatoe times in the Northern hemisphere.

    What matters?

    Epstein is not the core of the problem, or his taking out of the system, a solution. Having a problem being regulated by a core rotten system is neither. A complicit systemic cannot be actuator, handler and judge at once. What is left is public gloating, admittedly a psychological need of the masses.

    To be considered, how does a pimp compare to billions juggling in thin air bankers.

    What would be real news, would be a leak of a lore Wikileaks, an anonymous source depository, where-in details are given, however small, or topical by the perpetrator of the complicit involvement, or near to it. That of course requires the editor sitting at a save-haven outside the reach of the factual safe-havens beyond the law, as CIA or anything similar. A one room embassy would not do, the Russian territory in the case of Snowden neither.

    Counting on the same justice system that is complicit in logical fallacies as locking up real journalists, publishers, to advance garbage bytes of data is enfantin.

    Journalists advancing as above that same meaningless byte, fed by the complicit authorities amounts to a little duck quack. Naivety has no excuse, when one is allowed in a position of public interest.

    The world of ethical outliers needs alternative organizing. Where the middle man is not aware of what sits in his repository. Block-chain databases, distributed and redundant data, anonymous access. Traceable proof of this only to the original source. A money system, that requires no middle man banking (the biggest scam of all).

    A currency and data system, hardware and software both transparency. A currency that checks and balances in direct relation to global assets and liabilities of the first order.

    Not to happen soon, so in practical terms, please carry on Herr Atzmon.

    • Troll: utu, Parisian Guy
  48. By the way, is Lady Gaga the next in line to titilate the snout-crowds?

  49. Skeptikal says:
    @HBM

    Pinker:
    I laughed out loud when I saw Pinker in the photo.
    What a pseud.
    I read his book on editing.
    It was pretentious BS, much of it devoted to citing his wife’s writing as a model of good writing.
    It was also full of misygynist asides directed at female editors, whom h e characterized as rule-bound prisses.

    Just imagine Pinker with a buzzcut instead of his flowing “intellectual” silver locks.
    That really cuts him down to size.
    What pseud.
    A great example of how both Epstein and Pinker have wormed their way into respectable intellectual circles—Pinker looks like the entree point here.

  50. Skeptikal says:
    @utu

    WHAT IS HER NAME?
    please.
    I see no ID whatsoever.

    • Replies: @Matra
  51. Skeptikal says:
    @David

    OMG, Pinker actually contributed to the legal defense?
    I can’t effing believe it. I knew that Pinker was a BS artist as soon as I read his pretentious, incomprehensible book on editing and saw his curly coif.
    But to come to the aid of Epstein by using his supposed lingistic expertise to craft a “reading” of the law–it really stinks.

    If this punctures the Pinker puffery, it is a small reward from the big Epstein stink bomb.
    Dersh, Pinker, and Epstein. Can you imagine these three getting together to work out the Pinker defense—all the while all three knowing what they have all really been up to? Because I assume that Pinker is also in the know.
    Ugh.

  52. Republic says:

    The you tube channel: Blackstone intelligence had these 4 podcasts recently on the Epstein story

  53. Skeptikal says:
    @Anon

    “Of course people do say she dabbles in the occult.”

    Who says that?
    In what way is it relevant to her actual research?
    Which part of her research are you questioning?

    • Replies: @PhilK
  54. Pandora says:

    We all know that there are 2 (very „sticky“) stigma-labels which can utterly destroy a person’s whole life:

    1) calling someone a „Holocaust-denier“
    2) calling someone a „pedophile“

    While I have absolutely no intention to defend Epstein’s disgusting conduct, I strongly object to the flippant use of the term „pedophile“ (by many commentators) in his case

    Pedophiles are (sick) people who become sexually aroused by a child’s body
    (kids below the age of puberty, even toddlers). This is a grave sexual perversion.

    Wanting to have sex with a teenager (14-18 yrs old) is not. We may find it immoral, distasteful or disgusting, but it cannot be equated with pedophilia. The legality depends on the AGE OF CONSENT set by law (in Europe 14-16), in the US 16-18)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States

    A 14, 15, 16 yr old girl is sexually mature (in the physical sense, even pregnancies are not unusual) and old enough to understand what is going on; teenagers begin to explore their own sexuality and there is nothing wrong with it as long as the sexual encounters are based on mutual consent. Of course it is highly immoral to lure naive girls to your “residence” for sexual encounters but …

    Nothing in the indictment suggests that the girls were brought to his mansions AGAINST THEIR WILL (no illicit drug use, etc.) The press-reports say: (Epstein was) „enticing them to engage in sex acts with him in exchange for money“

    • The indictment says (verbatim):

    „He recruited dozens of minor girls to engage in sex-acts with him, after which HE PAID THE VICTIMS hundred of dollars in cash (at the N.Y. and the Palm Beach residences).“ (Starting as as „massage“)… Epstein would escalate the nature and scope of physcial contact (groping, contact with genitals, etc.). There is no indication of rape (any sexual intercourse) in the indictment

    What did these girls expect, when they were taken to a stranger’s luxurious residence with the promise of earning quick cash? How many of these girls were virgins (if any)?

    • Was their naivité exploited by Epstein and his cronies? Very likely so and they must be held accountable for it (what about the other prominent men involved?!) but this is not the same as „raping little children“ (as some in the media call it)

    What I find very disturbing is that some of these „victims“ became recruiters for „new“ girls, and both „were paid hundreds of dollars in cash“.

    From the indictment: „Through these victim-recruiters, Epstein gained access to and was able to abuse dozens of additional minor girls“ (hence the sex-trafficking charge).

    • Can someone help me out here, please? A teenage-girl „traumatized“ by an unwanted sexual-encounter does not take money from the abuser, let alone entice other girls to become new „victims“ … something here does not add up …

    • What about the parents of these girls? (I am not trying to blame them but they have some responsibility for the conduct of their kids… )

    Finally: I think Giraldi and Atzmon (links to Israel, Barak etc.) are on the right track; the real, big crime here is being hushed up, the highly emotional „pedophile“ charge is moral-outrage management“ in action…)

    “… the affaire Epstein also has all the hallmarks of a major espionage case, possibly tied to Israel. …the whole filming procedure smacks of a sophisticated intelligence service compiling material to blackmail prominent politicians and other public figures. Those blackmailed would undoubtedly in most cases cooperate with the foreign government involved to avoid a major scandal. It is called recruiting “agents of influence.”
    That is how intelligence agencies work and it is what they do.

    (…Acosta had) cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had ‘been told’ to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. ‘I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone.’

    ” (Giraldi)

    Regarding the „Austrian passport“ story – spread by

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-fake-foreign-passport-was-used-in-saudi-arabia-and-other-countries

    „Prosecutors have cited the passport—which was issued in Austria but had a Saudi Arabia address, a fake name and Epstein’s photo—as evidence that the accused sex trafficker is a flight risk.

    I would like to point out that Austrian passports contain NO INFORMATION ABOUT THE HOLDER’S ADDRESS (just date and place of birth, and (in the 1980s – height and color of eyes)

    .. so perhaps another “red herring”?

    Btw … „https://carbyne911.com“ …. This is real chutzpah (the 911 part)

    • Replies: @veto
  55. Skeptikal says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Still don’t know her name, but I think she is onto something.
    Everyone should watch the video, to gain an unexpected perspective on the potential attitude of William Barr to J. Epstein.

  56. @freedom-cat

    Looks like he’s not getting out!!

    Charles Hugh Smith has a good analysis of the Epstein case and why now:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-15/epstein-explosive-crisis-deep-state

  57. @c matt

    I meant more the blackmail of entire countries, not individuals.
    Their plan B if the pedo blackmail doesn’t work.

    We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

  58. veto says:
    @Pandora

    Issued (at the Israeli embassy) in Austria.

  59. Tony Ryals says: • Website

    I haven’t found a direct link to Trotsky’s grandaughter Nora ‘Trotsky’ Volkow;(who has been running the U.S. NIDA or National Institute on Drug Abuse since 2003), and Jeffrey Epstein but based upon his funding of brain and mind control research she seems to be the type that he and Zionists,et.al. would fund.Trotsky was Jewish and a homicidal maniac and there is reason to believe his nemesis Stalin was Jewish as well,(albeit white people NOT Semites), and they both approved of or were behind the cold blooded murder of Tzar Nicholas,his wife and their children and untold numbers of innocent peasants.Nora ‘Trotsky’ Volkow appears to have been given her position for life at U.S. NIDA,(by whom ?), almost as if, like,Stalin or Trotsky,(if he had been succeeded in toppling Stalin), a life time appointment.The U.S. Jewish Zionist controlled media has never investigated this foreign agent’s lifetime appointment.

    In light of Nicole Junkermann and thus Ehud Barak .and their,et.al. penetration of the UK NHS it is interesting that Nora ‘Trotsky’ Volkow has enbedded herself in the U.S. NIDA since 2003.Some of are the opinion that Leon Trotsky himself was a closet Zionist.How did she get appointed to her position for life as the head of U.S. NIDA !? Is she proud of her gradfather’s mass murdering ways ?

    For those interested in science particulary the brain and mind here’s a link to the first political and science rhyme I ever wrote from around 1980 called,’Ode To The Psychomolecular Code’, which at the time and up to now I believe is RNA and protein based.

    Ode to the Psychomolecular Code – political and science rhymes
    politicalandsciencerhymes.blogspot.com/2011/09/ode-to-psychomolecular-code.html
    Sep 21, 2011 – Ode to the Psychomolecular Code … by Tony Ryals Franklin, Watson and Crick, Cracked the gene code – pretty slick, But yet another code,

  60. @David

    The classic, “Depends on the meaning of “is”.”

    Defending the indefensible.

    Give Epstein up. Is he worth trashing all Jews? [I ask the knee jerk defenders of an individual Jew’s crimes.]

    Talk about hubris.

    Though if Epstein were doing this in service of greater ersatz Israel, then it was heroic action.

  61. Skeptikal says:

    Regarding the Dalton chapter, there seems to be obfuscation and damage control going on . . . at the Miami herald.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232678997.html

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  62. @Skeptikal

    Regarding the Dalton chapter, there seems to be obfuscation and damage control going on . . . at the Miami herald.

    Why do you think so?

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  63. @BuelahMan

    I suspect that you watch too much CNN.

    • Agree: cassandra
  64. @melpol

    If only it were that simple, your job would be easier. “jewry or Israel” isn’t being blamed. Mossad and the Likudniks who control Mossad are the ones under suspicion for having erected a fake status (that of a billionaire) for one of their agents: Epstein. Epstein is suspected of being an active Mossad agent in the business of honeytrapping politicians in order to control how they treat Israel. It’s more complicated than you say it is.

    Now you can get to work explaining that there’s no connection between Epstein and Mossad, and that he is actually a genius in financial matters who became a billionaire by his own hand and simply has a harmless hobby that involves buggering children.

    Get after it. I’m ready to read your next explanation.

  65. @Germanicus

    “I don’t think it is only pedophilia and child abuse.”

    For an elected official, pedophilia/child abuse is plenty. There’s a saying about US Senators (headless nails is another term for them)

    “A Senators seat is safe unless he’s found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.”

    That’s what is known as a truism.

  66. Skeptikal says:
    @Parisian Guy

    I watched the video provided earlier by the lady who looked into the Dalton segment of this story.
    The quotes by Lynne Greenberg do not chime with info provided by “Amazing Polly.”
    I think Amazing Polly and her research—and the questions the latter raises—look valid.

    It seems that Epstein was actually “going out” with Lynne Greenberg.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  67. Druid says:
    @HBM

    Just had to include the Muslims in there. I presume you live in the US. Look around, arsehole!

  68. drdann says:

    The indefatigable Ryan Dawson has perhaps the widest view of the Epstein/Mossad compromise operation:

  69. @Skeptikal

    It seems that Epstein was actually “going out” with Lynne Greenberg.
    Can’t remember where I previously got this plausible implied hypothesis, but I believe it was in some mainstream media from NY. In any case, the hypothesis was not openly said so, neither was it made absolutely undecypherable.

    Epstein was not “rich & famous” by this time, and Mrs Greenberg has a legitimate right to privacy. Thus, I don’t see “damage control” if the Miami Herald doesn’t tell all the details of the story about this point. They are professionnal.

    Is Polly such? Her work is 0.01% of what the Miami Herald did. It is easy to pretend to be the one who nevertheless did better, when you only “discover” what every other reporter already knew, but you don’t respect the common rule about what is legitimate reporting.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Skeptikal
    , @Skeptikal
  70. Sean says:
    @Parisian Guy

    The Florida detective that had investigated the case became terminally ill, and when he was at the point of death gave the Miami Herald everything they wanted. All this was in 2015.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  71. @Sean

    1) that’s not exactly what the Miami Herald say.
    2) As usually, you have no source, no reference. You are a disinformation peddler.

  72. Sean says:

    At his recent arraignment it was revealed Jeffrey Epstein was getting four different women and girls to massage him each day, the man clearly has a raging sexual fetish for massage. I don’t see him as having an organisation at all, because they were handing out money to those who were willing to give him sexually tinged rubdowns for money and getting them to recruit friends. Remember, they went to this ostentatious mansion and all knew his real name which does not sound like even a street drug dealer crime level of sophistication. No insulation between the victims and Epstein who is supposedly the head of a top level international organisation, not even a false name and hard to trace premises for him, he just gave them a few hundred bucks. I think his set up a dozen years ago bespeaks of someone so completely in the grip of a paraphilic obsession that he although he knows what the the consequences are inevitably going to be on an intellectual level, he cannot bear to stop indulging. Epstein was supposedly barred from Trump’s Miami resort for making a pass at an employee during a massage. His targeted age is not all that young and on average is in the middle of what most men find attractive. Epstein took steps to gratify his desires in some cases with seriously underage girls, but it must be remembered that Epstein pled guilty to charges in relation to girls he could have legally married in Florida at that time.

    Epstein was over a hundred times wealthier than anyone else who has ever faced such charges. I don’t think you understand the way the roles can be reversed when someone of Epstein’s financial resources is under criminal investigation by state authorities. It’s not like the TV shows in which brave incorruptible members of law enforcement with immaculate private lives can give the same justice to the victims of billionaires as any other criminal. Well in the real world they can but are given reasons to not want a knock down drag out fight in court and newspapers with people who have dug up a few things about them. Moreover the victims on TV do not get a million dollars compensation for having been victimised by being paid for sex acts when they were between the ages of 16 and 18. His lawyers included Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth Starr.

    Epstein’s private investigators were meticulously surveilling the detectives and the prosecutors. J.The detective said he was frightened that ex convicts would attack his family, but I am sure the knowledge that anything on the side he had going was going to exposed really pissed him off. Moreover the known victims in the case got tens of millions of dollars in compensation, while the detective got nothing and then he became terminally ill. The Miami police are who were supposed to be guarding Epstein while he was on day release are now under investigation, that detective would have kept quiet but for the knowledge he was going to be dead soon. And maybe he exaggerated a bit about how good their case was. Don’t forget that part of the deal was these girls, not just the ones he pled guilty to doing anything to, were guaranteed substantial amounts of compensation if there was not trail. Supposing Epstein had said the deal was not good enough, declined it, and fought all the charges with his superb legal and PI team including damaging leaks about the prosecutors and detective, and witnesses who accused the prosecution witnesses of perjury, and the jury found him not guilty. The girls would get nothing in return for being branded prostitutes and liars.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  73. @Sean

    I think his set up a dozen years ago bespeaks of someone so completely in the grip of a paraphilic obsession that he although he knows what the the consequences are inevitably going to be on an intellectual level, he cannot bear to stop indulging.

    Sure, he could not bear to stop indulging. Nevertheless you were wrong when saying “he knows what the the consequences are inevitably going to be”. The reality is that Epstein did not think so, because he believed (almost rightly) that he had the Police and Justice in his pocket. You just demonstrated this fact in all the other part of your text.

    Have the Today’s Award for “most impressive self-contradicting post”

  74. PhilK says:
    @Skeptikal

    “Of course people do say she dabbles in the occult.”

    Who says that?
    In what way is it relevant to her actual research?
    Which part of her research are you questioning?

    He was not talking about Amazing Polly here — he was talking about Hillary Clinton. Here’s the context of that quote:

    It’d be useful to know if Hillary engages in ritual sex magic with teens. Doesn’t mean that Epstein acted like he did because he is a disciple of Crowley and promotes sex magic per se.

    Of course people do say she dabbles in the occult.

  75. paranoidgoy says: • Website
    @Osama Bin Lying

    Anon, my man, it is a funny, witty and probably slightly intoxicted bit of free rhyme. I smiled all the way reading it, get over yerself, man.

  76. ariadna says:

    I disbelieve just about anything Atzmon says because he is a serial slanderer. Although I value Fran Taubman’s spirited criticism of him, I do not believe, as she does, that Atzmon slanders mostly Jews. He attacks some non-Jews as well.
    He actually attacks only the successful and famous, who in our world, based on meritocracy, more often than not are Jews. Not coincidentally he attacks those who express less than flattering opinions about his work, like Dershowitz, whom Atzmon has attempted to vilify for years.
    He called him a plagiarist on the flimsy argument that some quotation marks or citations or both were missing somewhere in his writings. Now he is trying to connect him to Epstein as if Dershowitz were some kind of sex offender, despite Dershowitz’ perfect sex life:

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/19/alan-dershowitz-brags-about-perfect-sex-life-during-attack-on-david-boies/

    Atzmon criticism of Israel follows the same pattern: invidious picking on the successful and famous. In the short span of some 70 years Israel has become a world leader in science, to give but one example of stunning success, yet only once (that I recall) has Atzmon indirectly and grudgingly alluded to this in a side mention of Uri Geller.
    I applaud UR publishing Atzmon’s articles because it gives us an idea of what the calumny victims have to confront.

  77. FLgeezer says:

    Stein vs. Stein

    Aren’t they an admirable duo?

    —————————————————————————————————————–
    Sex offender Epstein, Ponzi king Rothstein battle it out in court
    Case involved making investors pay phony settlements to abuse victims
    Jeffrey Epstein, left, and Scott Rothstein
    By Marc Freeman

    [MORE]

    On one side is Jeffrey Epstein, the South Florida sexual offender now facing new federal sex trafficking charges in New York.
    On the other side is Scott Rothstein, the convicted Ponzi schemer serving a 50-year federal prison sentence for one of the biggest frauds in U.S. history.
    It turns out these criminal figures share more than just notoriety. They are engaged in a nearly 10-year-old court battle in Palm Beach County .

    Only hours before authorities arrested the 66-year-old Epstein, the wealthy financier’s attorneys this month ramped up his civil claim against Rothstein, the former Fort Lauderdale lawyer.
    But it’s unclear whether anything will ever come of it, with both men in custody.
    “They might be roommates soon,” said Mike Fisten, a private investigator who once worked for Rothstein’s law firm.

    A judge ruled Thursday that Epstein will remain behind bars in New York while the sex crime counts are pending. He’s accused of exploiting dozens of girls in New York and South Florida in the early 2000s.
    Rothstein is in a top-secret witness protection program for inmates.
    A lawyer for Rothstein contends the case against him should have ended long ago, and he has zero assets to fork over anyway.
    Still, a judge has yet to stop Epstein’s litigation.
    Rothstein targets Epstein
    What’s it all about? The odd connection between these men dates to 2009, in the months before the implosion of Rothstein’s $1.4 billion Ponzi scheme .
    Rothstein, hoping to keep the fraud going, came up with a ruse that involved taking advantage of Epstein’s legal trouble.
    This followed Epstein’s controversial 2008 plea deal concerning the sexual abuse of numerous underage girls, and Epstein’s promise to pay their civil claims.
    Rothstein persuaded investors to purchase interests in what were fictitious multimillion-dollar civil settlements between Rothstein’s firm and Epstein’s sexual abuse victims.
    Here’s how it worked: Rothstein told the investors that the young women suing Epstein would take lesser settlements because they wanted immediate lump-sum payouts.
    The investors who funded these phony up-front settlements believed they would get a great return after Epstein settled the claims later at much higher amounts. Rothstein later admitted he lied to his potential investors that victims Rothstein represented were lining up to settle claims against Epstein for hundreds of millions of dollars.
    Rothstein carried out the swindle in part by showing investors how one of his partners, Bradley Edwards, then represented three victims who were sexually abused at Epstein’s Palm Beach residence. Rothstein said he did this behind Edwards’ back, and Edwards had no part of the Ponzi scheme.
    “I took advantage of some good, innocent people for my own and my co-conspirator’s illegal purposes,” Rothstein testified in a 2012 deposition. “Mr. Edwards is one of them, and for that I am sorry, Brad.”
    In December 2009, a month after Rothstein’s arrest and downfall, Epstein sued both Rothstein and Edwards in Palm Beach County Circuit Court .
    While Epstein dropped all claims against Edwards nearly three years later, Epstein still demands that Rothstein, 57, pay for conspiring with others to commit illegal acts.
    Epstein charges that “a key selling point” for Rothstein’s investors in the infamous Ponzi scheme was the potential for “astronomical settlements” paid by Epstein.
    Rothstein, through his lawyer, argues that Epstein doesn’t have a valid legal claim.
    But last September, the judge overseeing the case denied Rothstein’s request to end the litigation in his favor. So, the case goes on.
    “I’m not in a position to comment on it,” Marc Nurik, Rothstein’s lawyer, told the South Florida Sun Sentinel.
    Epstein apologizes
    for lawsuit
    Edwards, meanwhile, had countersued Epstein, for what was called a “malicious prosecution” claim.
    Edwards claimed Epstein made false allegations against him in the 2009 lawsuit, as a way of intimidating Edwards to abandon or cheapen the claims by the three victims he represented.
    Edwards also claimed Epstein’s lawsuit was an effort to punish Edwards for challenging Epstein’s plea deal and seeking to overturn it. That case against federal prosecutors in South Florida remains open.
    In December, just before Edwards’ countersuit was to go to trial, Epstein apologized and agreed to pay Edwards an undisclosed financial settlement.
    In a statement read by his attorney, Epstein wrote he was sorry for “the false and hurtful allegations I made.”
    “It did not work,” said Epstein, also seeking forgiveness from Edwards. “Despite my efforts, [Edwards] continued to do an excellent job for his clients and, through his relentless pursuit, he held me responsible.”
    Had the case been tried, jurors would have learned that Epstein previously paid $5.5 million to settle the claims brought by Edwards’ clients. The jury also would have heard testimony from several women who accused Epstein of paying them for sex when they were teenagers.
    Edwards has spent years attacking Epstein’s once-secret plea deal, which has come under increasing scrutiny in light of the new federal charges brought by prosecutors in Manhattan.
    In the 2008 agreement, Epstein avoided a possible lengthy prison sentence by pleading guilty to two state prostitution charges. In return, the former money manager received immunity from federal prosecution in South Florida.
    Epstein was required to serve an 18-month sentence, register as a sex offender, and pay confidential settlements to more than two-dozen teenage girls.
    Epstein wound up qualifying for a work-release program, and some 13 months into his punishment, Epstein was released from jail to house arrest.
    Will civil case survive?
    In the protracted Epstein-Rothstein litigation, meanwhile, both sides have accused the other of letting the case go cold for about six years.
    Nurik, attorney for Rothstein, wrote in April 2018 that Epstein had done nothing to move the claim along and apparently lost sight of it.
    “Here, Plaintiff has failed to take any action in his case against Rothstein for nearly 6 years and until recently had no idea what case he had pled,” Nurik argued, calling it a waste of the court’s time.
    In response, Epstein attorney Scott Link wrote, “Rothstein, himself, however, delayed moving to dismiss or taking any action in this case …”
    The latest activity in the case happened on July 5, when Link filed a pleading requesting that Rothstein turn over all documents and electronic communications related to the dispute. The next day, Epstein was apprehended at a northern New Jersey airport.
    Putting Epstein behind bars again is long overdue, says Mike Fisten, a former Miami-Dade Police detective hired by Edwards 10 years ago to investigate Epstein’s sexual assaults.
    Fisten says he’s shocked Epstein’s claim against Rothstein is still going on, especially after Epstein admitted making the false claims against Edwards.
    “It’s nonsensical, actually,” he said. “Because neither of them can get anything from each other. They’re both going to be in prison forever.”

    • Replies: @ariadna
  78. @ariadna

    ‘…Not coincidentally he attacks those who express less than flattering opinions about his work, like Dershowitz, whom Atzmon has attempted to vilify for years…’

    How would it be possible to vilify Dershowitz? Wouldn’t that be kind of like demonizing Ted Bundy?

    • Replies: @ariadna
  79. ariadna says:
    @FLgeezer

    Fascinating in the way a National Geographic feature would be that showed a parasite vs parasite fight.

  80. @ariadna

    Fran is a lying troll whose lies are so transparent that most people here just ignore whatever she posts. Your approval of her nonsense makes you look the same as Fran.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  81. Gilad, I forgot to complement you earlier on the title of this article. It’s witty.

  82. ariadna says:
    @Colin Wright

    Sometimes I wish I were less opaque but then I say to myself, “No, forget it! It’s fun.”

  83. ariadna says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I think that Sean and I are her only friends around here. I cannot help wanting to protect the underdog. Would the Comment section lose something if as he were gone? Probably. A certain, how shall I put it… vibrancy?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  84. Skeptikal says:
    @Parisian Guy

    “but you don’t respect the common rule about what is legitimate reporting.”

    Which rule are you referring to?
    Amazing Polly was curious about the Dalton connection and IMO she dug up some stuff that looks genuine (printed sources that she underlined) and some anomalies in the sequence of Dalton school publications available online that beg for explanations—the cover the exact period when Epstein was hired and worked there. It sure looked *possible* that someone is trying to scrub the record.

    Not sure what is wrong with this reporting, or research.

  85. Skeptikal says:
    @Parisian Guy

    “but you don’t respect the common rule about what is legitimate reporting.”

    Which rule are you referring to?
    Amazing Polly was curious about the Dalton connection and IMO she dug up some stuff that looks genuine (printed sources that she underlined) and some anomalies in the sequence of Dalton school publications available online that beg for explanations—the cover the exact period when Epstein was hired and worked there. It sure looked *possible* that someone is trying to scrub the record.

    Not sure what is wrong with this reporting.

  86. Skeptikal says:

    “Epstein was not “rich & famous” by this time, and Mrs Greenberg has a legitimate right to privacy. Thus, I don’t see “damage control” if the Miami Herald doesn’t tell all the details of the story about this point. ”

    I *think* Lynne Greenberg is the daughter, not the missus.
    If Epstein actually was dating a student (whatever the Greenberg’s daughter’s name was), while being a teacher at the school, that was definitely out of line. More so if she was underage.

    So her report of Epstein qua teacher may be deliberately misleading.
    Burying their real relationship. Which would reflect ill on both Epstein.
    That he was not yet rich and famous at the time is totally irrelevant.
    Correct me if I am wrong and LYnne is the mom.

    • Replies: @Sean
  87. @ariadna

    To each his/her own, I guess. I don’t call trolling by means of obvious lies “vibrancy”. I call it bad behavior. You seem to be confused as to whether Fran is a he or a she. Anyway, she/he is already gone to all the people here who use the ignore function.

  88. RobinG says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    … World Economic Forum
    … Technocratic globalism

    she slams the Frankfurt School
    …any mention of LaRouche?

  89. Sean says:
    @Skeptikal

    Epstein was 20 years old at the time.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  90. @Sean

    ‘Epstein was 20 years old at the time.’

    Going by Wikipedia, he was at least 21 years old. Epstein would have been 21 when he began teaching at the school and 23 when he left.

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