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Britain is in a state of political turmoil. The government and the main opposition party have both lost their way and, together, they have completely lost the trust of the people. In the last few weeks we have witnessed a landslide exodus from both the Tory and Labour parties to the slightly more rational, principled and patriotic alternatives: the truly conservative wandered to the Brexit Party and the remainers, who previously voted Labour, migrated to the more humane Liberal Democrats.

Brits are critically divided over Brexit. It is fair to say that most do not fully grasp what Brexit is anymore. They were deliberately not informed of the political discussion over Brexit and what it would mean for the future. Brits feel betrayed by the political class and in truth, they have been subjected to gross and treacherous treatment by their politicians and media. Brits are not aware of the centrality of Israel and its interests that is at the core of the Brexit debate.

In February, I published a translation of a Ynet article which reported that Israel had located itself as post-Brexit Britain’s gateway to the world: “Once out of the EU, Britain will have to sign separate trade agreements with each state, and Israel will be the first,” Ynet wrote. Just to remove any confusion, it added “Israel has become Britain’s strategic ally.” And of course, “the British government totally disregard the boycott campaign against Israel. On a political level, they boycotted the boycott.” Britain under Theresa May has been reduced into a colony of Israel’s. Brits have become increasingly aware that 80% of their Tory MPs are members of the Conservative Friends of Israel, which is a foreign pressure group dedicated to the interests of another state.

Those who have been puzzled by the insane institutional Israel lobby campaign against Corbyn and the Labour party (BOD, Jewish Chronicle, CAA, etc.) can now figure out what the motivation behind it was: Corbyn in 10 Downing Street might well interfere with Israel’s plans for post-Brexit Britain.

The truth is starting to unveil itself. Theresa May, a staunch Zionist, has been working tirelessly to bring about a Brexit ‘deal.’ The Ynet article suggests that such a deal could work for Israel. Brexit enthusiasts smelled a rat, they could see that May’s Brexit offering didn’t fit with what they had in mind. But they couldn’t see the full picture since the prominence of Israel in post-Brexit plans was never discussed in the British press.

In September, 2018 Barry Grossman, the Tel Aviv British embassy’s Director of International Trade, used the Ynet platform to explain to Israelis why Brexit is good for Israel. “Israel and Israelis can reap huge benefits from Brexit,” Grossman wrote. “Since the Brexit referendum, the British government has declared that Israel is one of its priority markets. The UK is already Israel’s second largest trading partner in the world, and annual trade between the two countries is worth well over $7 billion.” No one in the British media cared to delve into the significance of Israeli-British relations to Brexit. The topic has never been mentioned in the British national media.

But remainers are in no better position. They are also clueless about the actual corrosive elements that divide their Kingdom and pull it into chaos. Corbyn and his dysfunctional party did nothing to clarify the situation. How is it possible that no one in the Labour Party has been brave enough to touch upon the centrality of Israel in the current Brexit debate? How is it that, despite the revelation in Israel’s biggest news outlet that Brexit was designed to make Israel great again, not one brave Labour MP, including the so-called ‘leader,’ could say so out loud? The answer is obvious: like the Conservative party, Labour is an occupied zone. It is dominated by fear of the Israel lobby, Jewish pressure groups and the compromised and Zionised British media.

This alone is devastating, but unfortunately, the centrality of Israel in the current Brexit crisis goes much deeper.

Though it is clear to most Brits that Brexit exposes a clear rift between an emerging nationalist ideology and progressive philosophy: not many realise that both contemporary nationalism and progressive philosophy are deeply inspired by two rival Jewish political schools of thought.

For Right-wing agitators, the Alt Right, anti-Muslims and anti-immigration activists, Israel and its current prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, have become a major source of inspiration. Similarly, it is Jewish progressive ideology that arouses pro-immigration campaigners, open-borders enthusiasts and multi culturalists globally and especially in the UK and USA. It is the pervasiveness of Jewish ideologies within both Right-wing nationalist and New Left discourses that sustains the dominance of the Israel lobby and Jewish pressure groups within British political parties, media and academia.

My study of Jewish ID politics suggests that as in America, Britain isn’t just influenced by one Jewish lobby or another, rather the entire British political, cultural and spiritual spectrum has been reduced into an internal Jewish debate. Brits struggle to see it because their media and academia work tirelessly to conceal this development. I guess that some must believe that it is safer (for reason to do with public safety and community relations) to keep nations in the dark.

Tommy Robinson, who managed to excite and mobilise thousands of Brits in the run-up to the European Parliament election by spreading an anti-Islam message, is an ardent Zionist who supports Israel and is openly supported by pro-Israel right-wing elements and members of the British Jewish community. The British media is hostile to Robinson and never misses any opportunity to paint him as a vile racist, but his connections with the Jewish State are kept hidden from the public.

ORDER IT NOW

However, Robinson is just an example. The many Brits who support a hard Brexit are inspired by the desire to reinstate rootedness, to close borders, to revive past British glory. It is inspired by Netanyahu’s policies. Like Donald Trump’s unoriginal promise to erect a wall on the Mexican border, many Brits would like to see their kingdom protected by an Israeli-style anti-migrant barrier.

In my recent book, Being in Time – A Post-Political Manifesto, I stress that while the old, good Left promised to unite us in a fight against capitalism, regardless of our gender, religion, skin colour or ethnicity, it was the New Left that taught us to speak ‘as a’: as a Jew, as Gay, as Black, and so on. Instead of being one people united in the struggle for justice and equality, within the post-political realm the so-called ‘left’ is pushing us toward endless identity battles. This has practically managed to turn societies into the twelve tribes of Israel. The Identitarian revolution was inspired by a few Jewish ideological and philosophical schools including, most importantly, the Frankfurt School. It is actually Jewish Identitarian philosophy and the success of Jewish Identitarianism that inspires most, if not all, contemporary Identitarian politics. It is not surprising that it also motivates the contemporary Labour party and dominates the US Democratic Party.

It has been established that a chief funder of the Identitarian revolution is financier George Soros and his Open Society Foundations. Soros may genuinely believe in the Identitarian future: It is cosmopolitan, it is global, it defies borders and states, but far more significantly, it also functions to divert attention from Wall Street, the City of London and capitalist crimes: as long as Identitarians fight each other, no one bothers to fight Wall Street and corporate tyranny. Soros didn’t invent this strategy. It has long been named ‘divide and conquer.’

British people certainly remember that it was Soros who used the pages of The Guardian to warn Brits of the inevitable implications of Brexit. They may find themselves wondering why a Hungarian-American globalist financier interfered in their national affairs. Brits may have been puzzled when the same Guardian castigated Nigel Farage as an ‘anti-Semite’ for referring to Soros as “the biggest danger to the Western World.” But much more shocking is that Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, known for his blunt opposition to banking and capitalism, endorsed a video that attributed ‘antisemitism’ to critics of Soros.

The above shows the depth of the spiritual, cultural and ideological influence of Jewish politics in Britain and in Brexit in particular. While Israel is the prototype of a nationalist and patriotic system for Brexiters, the remainers who support globalisation, immigration and multiculturalism are emulating the Jewish Diaspora’s rival progressive position. These two contradictory Jewish schools of thought are deeply entrenched within each of the two opposing ideologies tearing Britain apart.

Soon Brits will have to choose whether they prefer to be nationalists and xenophobes like the Israelis or as cosmopolitan, multicultural and assimilated as the Jewish progressive Diaspora. Or Britain could choose a third route. The Kingdom can liberate itself by looking inward and deciding what is it about Britain, about its history, culture and heritage that they like and want to reinstate.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. kali says:

    Exellent, and very important artical Gilad, (we know each other by the way. You once spoke at an event in Glastonbury, about 5 – 6 years ago. My hubbie, all dressed in orange spoke there too.)
    Off to shared this on fb now – see it I can get one or two ‘almost woke’ friends to read and learn. 😉
    Thanks for writing it. I think it can help a whole lot of people start to make sence of the confussion they constantly live with.
    With love. xxx

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  2. anon[353] • Disclaimer says:

    Both these 2 Jewish groups are united to one ideal at any point of time -ideal of Israel . It is exclusive, it is mixture of truths and lies about experiences of certain people of DNA-history-trauma- religion whose purpose is economic and miter control of the surroundings and the world . Both serve same aims and purpose and works in seemingly contradictory fashion to hide the close symbiosis and unity of purpose.

    The moment progressive seems danger to the myth of Zionism ,the progressive/ the integrationists will disappear ( 1200 rabbis threaten to end interfaith harmony if Methodist support divestment – 4 /2012 Mondoweiss.net)

    Bad cop Good cop taken to the spiritual and humane domain beyond belief .

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  3. Roderick says:

    “looking inward and deciding what is it about Britain…”

    Done. And what’s the answer?

    “The UK as an institution will never be able to spurn its Imperialist and warmongering behaviour. The only solution is to break the UK, to shatter it into pieces as small as possible… Let us hasten the UK towards its long overdue demise.”

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/05/vote-snp-today-chagos-just-one-example-of-the-need-to-dismantle-the-imperial-entity/

    It’s ridiculous that Britain has a UNSC veto. It’s a pissant. Even Israel has no use for it unless they can use it to maintain impunity for crimes against humanity and peace. Free the Scottish and Irish and Welsh from the City of London usurers.

    • Replies: @BenjaminFreedman
  4. Excellent article. Gilad gives a very strong assessment.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  5. David says:

    Western nations had identities even before Netanyahu. The idea that borders to maintain the national character is an idea we cribbed from Jews is itself an idea one might expect a Jew to think up.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @Turul
  6. MarkU says:

    Soon Brits will have to choose whether they prefer to be nationalists and xenophobes like the Israelis or as cosmopolitan, multicultural and assimilated as the Jewish progressive Diaspora. Or Britain could choose a third route.

    1) I would be more impressed with the integrity of the ‘cosmopolitan, multicultural and assimilated Jewish progressive Diaspora’ if they were as actively campaigning for open borders for Israel as they are for Europe and the US.
    2) The ‘third option’ mentioned is only going to be possible if we leave the EU, that is the only possible route to the reinstatement of genuine national determination. I agree that it is unlikely to work out that way but it is the only hope I can see.

    • Replies: @Eckbach
  7. Sean says:

    The many Brits who support a hard Brexit are inspired by the desire to reinstate rootedness, to close borders, to revive past British glory. It is inspired by Netanyahu’s policies. Like Donald Trump’s unoriginal promise to erect a wall on the Mexican border, many Brits would like to see their kingdom protected by an Israeli-style anti-migrant barrier.

    The EU had freedom of movement and the East Europeans wanted to come here. It was affecting wages in the few industries that could not be outsourced. British people don’t care, or have been intimidated out caring about racial replacement, but they do care about stagnating wages.

    Though it is clear to most Brits that Brexit exposes a clear rift between an emerging nationalist ideology and progressive philosophy: not many realise that both contemporary nationalism and progressive philosophy are deeply inspired by two rival Jewish political schools of thought.

    https://engageonline.wordpress.com/2016/08/28/ilan-pappe-admits-that-bds-was-not-initiated-by-a-call-from-palestinian-civil-society/

    The disinvestment movement is basically Jewish. The pro Israel Jews are up against Jewish humanist academics like Steven Rose. Muslims and the extreme left have virtually nothing to do with it. As for white gentiles, we have to listen to all these arguments about things that interest us not at all; everything boils down to arguments between Jews about the essence of morality.

  8. @kali

    Tx so much. I will probably recognise you if we meet..

  9. @David

    This is a fair comment .. I don’t argue that Israel invented borders but it made xenophobia into a legitimate political ethos ..

  10. Noman says:

    Everything and anything is always about making Israel greater.
    BREXIT or BRSTAY. Win-Win.
    Trump or Hillary. Win-Win.
    Socialism or “Capitalism”. Win-Win.
    The Hidden Hand is the winning hand.

  11. Liza says:

    Okay. Suppose things go just great; the borders are closed. What’s to be done with the countless unfriendly citizens or near-citizens who don’t identify with the historic British people and who continue with their, ahem, behavior?

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  12. [Tommy Robinson] is an ardent Zionist who supports Israel and is openly supported by pro-Israel right-wing elements and members of the British Jewish community

    To paint a fuller picture, Robinson is vehemently opposed by Jewish leaders. During the campaign just finished, some Orthodox Jews in Manchester distributed leaflets supporting Robinson, whereupon the city’s Representative Council pronounced: ‘Tommy Robinson is openly racist attacking the immigrant community and in particular Muslims…Holocaust…We will not accept the support of racists, using symbols designed to inflame tensions between the Muslim and Jewish communities.’

    The Board of Deputies chipped in with: ‘Tommy Robinson’s anti-Muslim propaganda will never gain support of the mainstream Jewish community. We deplore the attempts of a tiny number of misguided individuals who claim otherwise.’

    • Replies: @anon
  13. @Gilad Atzmon

    Not quite, Sir.
    It´s the “legitimate for me but not for thee” (Quod licet Yahweh …,) part that irks us.
    The “Zionist Right” and the “Progressive International” are just two heads of the same collective psychopathy.

    À propos “Zionist”: Methinks Theodor Herzl would disown them – they are now fully become what he proposed to do away with; “constitutional un-proletarianness” I think he called it. Whatever happened to “working their own land” and becoming “a people like any other”?

    That they, with genocidal intent, flood our countries with the microcephalic and melanin-enhanced is not something we find funny; but again, the Muslims are just scapegoats (kapores).
    It´s getting complicated 😀

    • Replies: @One Tribe
    , @Fran Taubman
  14. One Tribe says:

    Thank you for bringing this incredibly germane set of facts within a more than adequate expository format to us, albeit a tiny fraction of the population; it is a message that all need to hear.

    I must say that I am amazed at your ability to “stay afloat” despite publishing these truths.

    You’ve got it exactly, in battle terms, we are witnessing a pincer attack, people on both sides of the (artificial) divide in politics between left/democrat/liberal/labour and right/republican/conservative/business, but sides subordinated to the enforced political correctness of going along with the ‘controllers‘ of their ideological politicos.

    Of course, the entire exercise is a farce.

    I’d further like to note the evolution of identity politics, and how the entire concept has long-standing roots within “the History of the [redacted]“, to clearly separate the affiliation from humanity, and thereby take advantage of minority cohesion compared to the vast majority, and now we have the second phase, exactly as you have pointed out, “divide and conquer”, by creating further and further divisions, so no one group can challenge the [redacted]-supremacy.

    What is missing is recommendation for combating, what should become clear to everybody, is the greatest threat to humanity today, for while nuclear war, artificial intelligence, and genetic engineering might all bring about global catastrophe, it is the destructive imperative and group-psychosis of the [redacted] affiliation, dedicated to Rabbanical Talmudism, which dis-inhibits the decision-making to enable these avenues of disaster.

    The question…

    how is the effective control of the extra-national lobby be inoculated, so that people are psychologically freed to consider and discuss the implication of the emerging [redacted]-supremacy and its destructive effect of humanity and the biosphere?

  15. One Tribe says:
    @nokangaroos

    … “Zionist”: Methinks Theodor Hertzl would disown them…

    … interesting.
    But one should keep in mind the “situational intelligence“, i.e. reading the contemporary weakest points to advance [redacted] supremacy at the moment in time, and the best read on trends into the future.

    The kibbutz movement, to get the [redacted] back to doing ‘real‘ work, i.e. on the land, i.e. build direct relationship with the land, is now a moot point, the land in question, base of operations 1, on the stolen Palestinian lands is accomplished.
    Architecture of Herzl and his predecessors in the leadership of the ‘collective‘ has lead to meeting or exceeding in advancing the comparative power position of the affiliation compared to other global power-mongering groups/individuals.

    I think it would more likely that Hertzl would evaluate the situation using his indoctrinated “situational intelligence” and be pleased.
    Thinking that he would disavow the improved power comparative of the movement/collective due to the attrition of an approach to an ultimately successful outcome is unlikely.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  16. @One Tribe

    Agreed … with qualifications.
    You no doubt know Eichmann had to die because he was the SS liaison officer to the Hagana (Feivel Polkes) and not to the Muslim Brotherhood as officious history would have us believe lately
    (which would have been Schellenberg´s rayon anyway).
    At the same time, Uncle Joe persecuted the Hechaluz.

    As I said, things are … complicated 😉

  17. Miro23 says:

    Or Britain could choose a third route. The Kingdom can liberate itself by looking inward and deciding what is it about Britain, about its history, culture and heritage that they like and want to reinstate.

    This is surely an important part of Brexit. The British are friends of European people but object to the dictatorial EU administration with its support for Globalist special interests and mass immigration. Nationalism doesn’t mean xenophobia. That’s a leftist multicult. smear.

  18. As an immigrant from an ex colony, I sympathise with English hostility to being a Jewish colony, which it has gradually become since Cromwell resettled the Jews in the 1650s. Jewish merchants bought the land in East London that became the City of London, a state within a state, and infiltrated the ruling classes through marriage and business alliances. The colonial period was driven mostly by outside forces (e.g. the East India Company that colonised and exploited India until the 1857 Mutiny was largely in Jewish hands). I support the rights of natives to self determination and oppose Jewish control of politics, media etc and their plan to colonise Britain with foreigners.

    I’ve been aware for some time that Jews controlled both sides of the political argument (left vs right; brexit vs remain) and predicted that Brexit would be implemented as it served Israeli interests. Jews allow nationalist parties (e.g. Orban) to be anti Soros as long as they are pro Israel because they all work for the same goal i.e. Jewish hegemony over the whole world, and there is no real division of interest. It is a false dichotomy to distinguish between the Jewish left and Jewish right, they are two sides of the same coin.

    • Agree: MarkU
  19. What, pray tell, is wrong with xenopobia?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  20. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m giving up reading-writing-thinking about Israel, Jews, zionists for Lent.
    An effort to purify my mind and soul and prepare for Easter, the renewal of the earth.

    Ooops, Lent is over for this year?

    Running start on next Easter.

    Seriously.
    There is life beyond obsessing over the latest manifestation of zionist psychopathology.

    • Replies: @MarkU
  21. The video is very confusing. It seems to rely on the holohoax as accepted truth.

  22. anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    Britons don’t need to be nationalists and xenophobes ‘like the Israelis’. They can be nationalists all on their own. They were nationalists and had their own British Island before Zionism began.

    This is just more of this silliness… Netanyahu/Hitler likes strawberry jam, so the British must avoid strawberry jam at all costs. It’s absurd. Mass immigration is a problem. It’s so obvious that anyone denying it can only be driven by a desire to inflict pain on native British/Europeans.

    It will not work, it cannot work. It is going to end in misery, tragedy and bloodshed. Anyone who is sane and even slightly aware of human nature and history KNOWS this. They are driven by an unforgivable ignorance or the most fiendish, satanic sort of maliciousness. It’s sickening.

    • Replies: @Dante Ardenz
  23. If I thought Britain staying in the EU would bring about the end of Israel, I’d be all for it.

    However, I think the battle is being decided on other fronts. Israel won’t be saved because nationalism triumphs in Britain.

  24. @Fidelios Automata

    ‘What, pray tell, is wrong with xenopobia?’

    What’s wrong is that you left out the ‘h’. Other than that, within limits, nothing.

  25. MarkU says:
    @Anonymous

    Seriously.
    There is life beyond obsessing over the latest manifestation of zionist psychopathology.

    I know what you mean. If you have a method that doesn’t involve sticking your head in the sand please let me know.

  26. If I were a Brit I would probably vote for Corbyn, just for the fact that he is anti-war, speaks up for the Palestinians and seems willing to call out Israel for their nefarious BS. I don’t keep up much with Brit or EU politics. The Nigel Farage dude is promoted by Fox “News” here so I suspect he is just a useful idiot of Israel and Wall St. I wouldn’t believe anything he says, like Trump or obama, he’s just blowing smoke up your asses, telling you what you want to hear so he and his rich friends get what they want. The Zionists, like Steve Bannon, also ex Goldman Sachs seem to be pushing hard for Brexit, so I would be nervous about it if I were a Brit. Just like Trump, they’re fear mongers, they take advantage of peoples fears to get their way and maintain their wealth and privilege. They have no intention of actually making peoples lives any better. Brexit probably has a lot to do with Iran and Chinas OBOR. They really really want to wreck Iran.

    What is wrong with Xenophobia? The capitalist ruling class sees you all as n!ggers, no matter if you’re black, white, Muslim or Christian, you’re just another slave on the capitalists plantation. so the more you fall into their trap of divide and rule the shittier all of you lives will become. Obvious ain’t it? Blacks and whites in America have been at each others throats for over a century now, how’s that working out? Keep it up.

    Right now in America 40 million live in poverty, 18.5 million in extreme poverty, and 5.3 million live in Third World conditions, whites included. The majority of whats left of American middle class is only one missed paycheck away from poverty. About 78% of workers in the United States are living paycheck to paycheck. Only 39% of Americans actually have enough money to cover a $1000 emergency. Nearly 3 in 4 workers say they are in debt and of those, more than half think they always will be. 67 billionaires already own half the world’s assets. American worker income has been stagnated for a generation, all races.

    We now have the wealthiest Congress in history, a majority of members are millionaires, we have a one-sided discussion demanding cuts only in public services, while ignoring welfare to the rich, billions in “aid” to Israel, record breaking military spending. One-sided discussion leads to one-sided policy.

    Marxism vs Identity Politics
    https://www.marxist.com/marxist-theory-and-the-struggle-against-alien-class-ideas.htm

    The ruling class has always striven to sow division in the working class, following the age-old tactic of divide and rule. They use any means to turn one section of workers against another: racism, the national question, language, gender or religion – every one of these has been used, and is still being used, to divide the working class and to divert its attention away from the class struggle between rich and poor, exploiters and exploited.

  27. Miro23 says:

    It’s difficult to overstate the importance of the Brexit vote in the European elections.

    – The United Kingdom is no longer united. Scotland has gone with the Scottish Nationalists, Welsh speaking Wales has gone with Plaid Cymru, and the English have voted for Brexit (England First).

    – The old 19th Century Left/Right Workers vs. Capitalists (Labour vs. Conservatives) argument has gone. It’s replaced by Nationalism vs. Globalism (Brexit vs. Labour/Conservative) with a new vote for Greens (nature) and the Lib/Dems (Brexit light).

    I don’t see much Jewish influence in any of this.

    Over the years Jewish activists have captured the Conservative and Labour parties with their “Conservative Friends of Israel” and “Labour Friends of Israel” lobby groups, but this influence has died along with the major parties.

    It’s more probably the end of Jewish power in British politics, and also in Europe, where they’re putting national interests first.

    • Replies: @paw
  28. @Liza

    Are there no workhouses? 😉

    • LOL: Liza
  29. Of course, it’s not just Britain, the pervasiveness of Jewish ideologies within both Right-wing national populist and the Left-wing progressive Identitarian movements also constitutes the limits of political discourse within the United States, France, Germany, Australia, and so on. And the one thing that is absolutely necessary to break the grip of this schizoid double-bind – an honest public conversation about the debilitating effects of Jewish power in the West – is also the one thing that’s absolutely impossible…

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Ace
  30. Renoman says:

    The fact that Europe is a circling the drain wasn’t mentioned, why go down with a sinking ship? Why fill your Country with Muslims? Why say yes to lower wages and higher rents? Getting out is the way to go, screw the rich!

  31. Nationalism cannot be Right v Left ,but Nation & People v International Jewery . The Left / Right Matrix , is the Marxist Dialectic ,first discussed by Hegal. Unless this is understood International Jewish power will tighten the chains. The Jews have used this Dialectic ,seeming opposites to to keep people off balance, divided, confused, and in constant conflict until there goals of rule reached . The ‘ Alt Right association with Israeli Agent Steve Bannon , the Hollywood drifter ,and addict ,who teamed up with Orthodox Jewish LA waiter,and drug partner Breitbart ( wide beard ) , and traveled to Israel in 2009 ,’ and fell in love ‘ , is emblematic of this. International Jewery despises Europe . Its Classical Foundations ,history, people, and through rule of Britain ,have always sought its division. The Jews have fostered a ‘ Left / Right Divide ‘ which are two wings in the same prison. All of it meaningless , and a tool to keep people fighting false inorganic, impossible conflicts which never can end for them, but achieves Jewish goals . The ideals of the West : Polytheistic , balanced, tolerant, beautiful , aesthetic , healthy, of mind and body, along with similar foundations of other peoples across the globe are anathema to Judaism. No true Nationalism can be ‘ Right Wing ‘ ,or of any ‘ wing ‘ , nor can it be peddling Jewish Finance Capitalism , which is the goal of the Left / Right Matrix. Brexit is ALL about wrecking Europe , and keeping its people divided: A tower of Babel for the Jewish Tribal Diety Yahweh to control. Is the European Union perfect ? No ,as nothing is. Did Jewish elites play with it ? Yes ,as they will. Take away the personalities , and its momentary policies, and look at the whole : The Jews want Europe as they pushed war after war ,from Britain to against anti Dualist Nationalism from Napoleon through Wilhelm, to Hitler : Keep Britain separate from the Continent , divide the later wreck Germany , ( its Nordic ,Greco – Roman Combine a deadly enemy to them ) , and manipulate Europe into a petty, operate state system , spiritually ,and physically. It has been said : ” Follow the money “. Well follow the Jews and money……Brexit and anti European Forces are not opposed to ‘ Brussels ‘ , they oppose EUROPE Beware ……an addendum. Only when a leader rises who takes on Private International Finance , and unites the people by dropping the Left / Right ‘ WINGS ‘, can Europe ,and our world end the march of International Jewery.

    • Replies: @TheJewishQuestion
  32. @Dante Ardenz

    The Jews primary objection to Europeans is Christianity which they have sought since its inception (largely successfully) to discredit and undermine. Now they seek to destroy the remnants of Christian civilisation – its peoples, culture etc – which is why the Jews promote its arch enemy – Islam. Muslim countries were bombed, not just to advance Israeli interests, but to facilitate the Muslim invasion of Europe. The resultant destabilisation of Europe provides a cover for globalists to advance their Jewish World Order agenda as Europeans fight for the survival of their nation states first, and EU second. Dismantling the EU will not help nationalists as their own parties are in bed with the Zionists, nor will strengthening the EU as the main players, Germany etc, are too compromised by Soros et al.

    • Replies: @Dante Ardenz
  33. anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    The Jewish Communal Fund (JCF) in New York, one of the participants in today’s gathering, has supported anti-Muslim hate to the tune of over 2 million dollars in recent years. They are not the only Jewish fund doing so.  Chicago’s Jewish United Fund has allowed hundreds of thousands of donor advised fund (DAF) dollars to bankroll Islamophobic groups. Organizers in NYC and Chicago have documented their findings in detailed reports that reveal the extent of funding going to Islamophobia.

    A report by the Council on Islamic-American Relations (CAIR) looked at the money trail from over 1,000 largely mainstream charities to 39 anti-Muslim groups that it calls the “Islamophobia Network. The 2019 report, called “Hijacked by Hate,” found that nearly $125 million was funneled to these groups (20014-2016). Of these 1,000+ charities reviewed, JCF was the 8th largest funder of anti-Muslim groups ($3.2 million during this period). https://mondoweiss.net/2019/05/jewish-communities-islamophobia/

    ———

    Now the job is done . Islamophobia has spread across USA,Australia, Poland Hungary, India,Mynammar and Sri Lnka. The goal has been achieved . It is time to sit back relax and pontificate . It is time to say ” we love Muslim”

    Thats what JFC is doing now . –“As 450 Jewish community members from across the country gathered at the New York Marriott in downtown Brooklyn to participate in a one-day event, “A Taste of the Collaboratory,” where members of the Defund Islamophobia campaign held signs in front of the hotel that read: “Jewish Communities Say: Defund Islamophobia Now.” – https://mondoweiss.net/2019/05/jewish-communities-islamophobia

    JFC was one of the participants.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rottenborough
  34. @nokangaroos

    The Muslims made themselves scape goats, no one could ever have done the job they have done to themselves, they would have and still do eat themselves alive with or without the Jews.
    If anything the Jews give them what little coherence they have.
    They have learned the USE big word COLONIAL, and it makes Europe quake from their own colonial guilt, fits right into Gilad’s narrative. Gilad’s philosophical voodoo would not go over so well here in America, we are cowboys and do not take that kind of voodoo lightly. In short we think it is crap.

    • Replies: @G
  35. G says:

    While I appreciate and respect Mr. Atzmon’s work and consider his criticism as someone who believes in what he summarizes as “identitarianism”, I think he falls into the trap of a false equivalency and he overstates the influence of Jewish ideology in the roots of European identities, because they are just that: the identities of Europe and its peoples.

    Sometimes I believe the original Zionism by Hertzel and Nordau were just off-shoots of the 19th century movements towards the nation states, solidified as one people. German, French, Spanish, (British, complex one because of the Empire), Polish nationalism and so on. Maybe with the somewhat genuinely naive hope of Hertzel at the time that Israel could normalize and become a nation among the others, the Jews a normal, healthy people. The quotes from Hertzel and Nordau in “The Wandering Who?” indicated as much to me.

    What’s more and even more important, MASSIVELY important is the following: Zionism today, especially the militant, militaristic and violent one represented by Adelson, Netanyahu and Likud since the assasination of Yitzak Rabin, orchestrating wars, political subversion, censorship, election meddeling and assassinations is consciously and strongly imperialistic. Whereas true “identitarianism” is not. It is the exact opposite!

    While one can find suggestions of an “European Empire” in the writings of Alain de Benoist and the specific origins of French Identitarianism which Martin Sellner and the official Identitarian movement subscribe to and which I am sceptical about, what most Europeans want – and I am 100%, 1000% sure of this – is to remain just what they are and were for hundreds, if not thousands of years: one people, as it had grown organically and naturally, in ethnicity, culture, traditions and faith. There are dymnamics in it, but if the change comes healthy, it comes gradually and organically. What happens today is entirely artifical and politically orchestrated. Thus European identitarianism includes a form of ANTI-imperialism, ANTI-colonialism, ANTI-subversion where the European nations are fighting back against those who subject them to those. This includes Soros, but to catastrophic consequences most are completely blind to the Zionist and US-(Neocon) influence in the NEW right political movements.

    This however does NOT deligitimize German identity, French identity, British identity, or Spanish identity. In fact: we experience the exact opposite: the non-stop attempts of the globalized new left and international global capitalism to undermine those identities to open its borders for the global common market, under total control of the USA and its financial institutions and corporations and also entirely replacable, moveable, rootless human capital. Not least by deconstructing the peoples and nations as “pasts that never were”, the suggestion/lie that they are “proposition nations”, or that they had been ALWAYS “countries of immigrants” (yes, certainly the Norman invasion of Britain a millenium ago must be exactly the same as the orchestrated refugee crisis and according to the Ceddar-Man “science” hoax Brits have always been black)

    What we also have is the somewhat successfull ATTEMPT of militant Zionism to make the European anti-imperialistic liberation movements, which identitarianism largely is and should be, to bring it into total servitude of the Jewish lobby and imperialistic Zionism. Which has been a large success in the case of Trump, but if you had eyes to see and ears to hear you knew this in advance from the start.
    People back then as today are willfully blind and easy to lie to and manipulate. In Europe it is a gigantic danger indeed, look at Front National, the Alternative für Deutschland, the Sweden Democrats, Lega Nord, even Orbán and so on and you know it. But again, Gilad: this does not mean that these peoples do not exist as they do and have a right to defend their nations and culture and peoples. To reduce this to “xenophobia” in a time of relentless onslaught by the anti-white left against those people, weaponized and even created by Wall Street and the billionaire class and their criminal, lying bastards in Holly Wood and other parts of the US-cultural industry which flow into Europe, as a tool of immunization and destraction battles as you rightly describe, is ultimately disingenious.
    The idea that European identity movements are ONLY a reaction to the anti-white left, thus completing the game and helping the billionaire class, has to deny the existence of European peoples. It might be different for the USA and “white” identity, but I do not equate the two and I will also not speak on their behalf as a German. What I CAN tell you as a German is that several powerful entities, be they US imperialists or militant Zionists, see the demographic transformation of Germany, the replacement of the German people, as some kind of Morgenthau- and Kaufman-Plan. Yascha Mounk even went onto German mainstream television to celebrate this historically unique exerpeiment to TRANSFORM a ethnically and culturall homogenous nation into a multi-ethnic multi-cultural. Which implies, that the anti-white, anti-European, anti-German activists, including its militant negative activists of ‘Jewishness’, KNOW that the German people and culture exist! Also: the final conclusion of the “flag” as the saving identity isthe American black muslim woman with the stars and stripes as a hijab.

    And while I respect genuine cosmopolitans and universalists: civic nationalism isanother form of multi-culturalism, worse, of globalism and which make it extremely vulnerable to those who control the global flow of information, corporations and the especially global financial-capitalist system. – I do not want to portray identitarianism, European nationalism, as the one true golden way, or the right answer for all peoples.
    But the peoples of Europe are worthy to preserve. They are communions and objects of love; the most fundamental expressions of human life. To deny their worth is worse than denying the beauty of Nortre Dame. And if you cannot even preserve your own people, which are the most basic fundament of the nation, what on earth CAN you preserve? What in the world is a value in and onto itself, if not the people! The life they express and embody! Just as the right to life is the most fundamental of all rights, the right of a people to preserve itself, if it so desires, is the most fundamental political right!

    What’s more, if Zionism hadn’t been immediately become an instrument of the imperialism and meddeling of Wall Street, and first British then US IMPERIALISM which then turned into this terrible synthesis that we have today, there might have been a small chance that Israel could have indeed become a nation just like any other. With its Jewish people in its Sephardic, Mizrahi and Askenazi and Ethiopian diversity, its customs, its language and traditions. And I cannot possibly find any fault in that.

    But it wasn’t meant to be: and Zionism conquered another nation, replaced, even massacred and terrorized and ethnically cleansed its people. To this day in the West Bank. This is NOT what European identitarians are doing. It is done to US, as Europeans! And the very same people that bomb the Arab nations, left themas scorched earth, massacred them in the millions now in Libya, Iraq, Syria are orchestrating the open border policy of Europe and the USA. Sometimes just not united as interest groups, or political pressure groups as an expression of Jewishness and Neoconism, but in the same man personified. As in Bill Kristol. And Europeans have a right, a duty to defend themselves against it! If only they could finally see the subversion of the Ziocons and US-Imperialism! Including, sadly, Mr. Nigel Farrage.

    European Identitarians do not hate anyone. They do not want to make anyone a second class citizen based on actually racist policy. They do no want to hurt, terrorize, bully anyone. It are defensive, non-violent, often even pacisfist movements against the subjugation of their people under Empires. And if they would and sometimes can clearly see, they also oppose the instrumentalization of them by imperialist Zionism.

    We, the people, have a right to exist and to preserve ourselves! And this is not violent. It is not Zionism in its current form. It is not imperialism. It is a right, a duty and morally just.

  36. @anon

    anon[160]—Thank you. It seems that most Jews still believe that anything is better than white Christian civilization. David Cole wrote recently about the consequences for Jews of their beloved diversity:

    An overwhelming number of US Jews support flooding the nation (and the West in general) with Third World immigrants…If Jews think they can forever stay immune to the effects of the Third Worlding of America, well, open your damn eyes. Or just look at the situation in France. How are Jews doing over there since Muslim immigrants began pouring in? Better? Or worse? ‘We must support immigration because the West must never again return to the white supremacy of old.’ Hey, if you didn’t like the historical West, wait till your kids experience the future one, with Muslim majorities in major European nations, and an America awash in Third Worlders who dismiss Jews as white and the Holocaust as a ‘white on white’ problem.

    • Replies: @anon
  37. AWM says:

    Oh good grief!

    And yes, I’m still looking for the “Jews” that left their side mirror on the street after clipping the 225 lbs rear bumper/tire carrier on my Jeep.

  38. John Clay says:

    I thought I had see it all as for promoting anti-Semitism. So no matter who wins (or loses), it’s Israel’s fault. How convenient is the argument for you.

    Israel doesn’t need the UK to make itself “great again”. They’ve made themselves great in 71 years while the UK has become an insignificant, non-contributor on the world stage. I take that back – the UK is only significant because of its Brexit circus. As it is, the only real impact of a hard Brexit would be symbolic in nature.

    Britain screwed the Jews over royally on multiple occasions between the years of 1920-1948, and you’ve been paying the price ever since. Within one year, you lost your crown jewel (India).

    Let me tell you this although I’m 98% sure you’ll dismiss it: The Bible really is the living Word of God. And in Genesis 12:3, God told Moses” I will bless those who bless thee, and curse those who curse thee.” This promise has never failed.

    At this point, becoming a friend and ally to the nation of Israel is the absolute best thing your government could do. After all, has there ever been an empire that screwed over the Jewish people and survived?

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Dante Ardenz
  39. Fran …
    No one as yet accused me of being soft on the carpet worshippers 😀
    What I said is they are just licensed lightning rods for our righteous anger, and we need a way to get around them and at those doing this to us.

    G …
    Well said. Herzl did preach contemporary European national romanticism, but also exhorted them to shed chosenness, victimology and a few other special problems.
    Instead, they came up with a sick miasma of Babylonian Talmud, Macchiavelli, Schabtai Zwi, Frank, Strauss and a few of the less savory aspects of National Socialism.

    “An anti-semite is someone who hates the Jews more than absolutely necessary.”
    – H.L. Mencken 😉

  40. Miro23 says:
    @G

    What’s more and even more important, MASSIVELY important is the following: Zionism today, especially the militant, militaristic and violent one represented by Adelson, Netanyahu and Likud since the assasination of Yitzak Rabin, orchestrating wars, political subversion, censorship, election meddeling and assassinations is consciously and strongly imperialistic. Whereas true “identitarianism” is not. It is the exact opposite!

    This is very true. Zionism today is imperialistic, although I think that it reached its zenith with 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq. 9/11 and Iraq showed the complete political subjugation of the United States by Israel.

    Brexit is a different concept. It’s a desire to be left alone in a historic homeland without mass immigration and globalist rulemaking from the E.U. The British aren’t False Flagging the US to fight wars on their behalf.

    • Replies: @G
  41. Miro23 says:
    @John Clay

    After all, has there ever been an empire that screwed over the Jewish people and survived?

    Well, the Jewish Empire is currently screwing over the American people, the Iraqi people, the Syrian people, the Libyan people, the Lebanese people, the Iranian people and the European people. How long do you think the Jewish Empire will survive?

  42. @TheJewishQuestion

    All excellent points . However ,I look at soul / race culture, and Europe is older then Christianity . Jews always hated its Classical Foundations .Greco – Roman , Nordic ideals . As long as any spark of European Soul race exists ( and it does) they want Europe in a vassal condition. Germany ,Amalek to the Jews is considered by them an eternal enemy, as the Hellenes ,and Rome was . They opposed Europe ,’Christain ‘ or not, and opposed other peoples in the Middle East long before Islam. If one observes Christian Fundamentalist ( sickening as that is ) ,they are obsessed by a European Super State . On there theological view, Jewish intent reveals itself . There is more resistence at the top in Europe to Jews then on the surface. Any European superstate ,particularly an Imperium of Continental Europe ,is potentially by they and Judeo Christian Allies , dangerous to them racially ,soul – racially , economically, spiritually , politically ,and symbolically. Europe violates the 7 Noahide Laws to them. It’s all idolatry , and Polytheistic ,Balance ( all things in moderation ) to them…they the Dialectic of Left / Right .
    Polarity cannot live ,or thrive with that . As Christ said ,’I give you peace ‘. The Jews cannot give peace until they rule . As for Soros ,he is a convenient ‘ Left ‘ front man , while NM Rothschilds ‘ , plays the Jews true Reactionary Conservative Finance Capital plan behind the scenes . Best wishes

  43. Anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:

    They should elect the catty b***** who said May did not have a stake in Britain’s future due to her lack of womb productivity. Then they should hold that statement over her head every time she caves to the globalists, saying you told us that you would enact Brexit for the good of your children.

    Do you—a mother—no longer care about your children’s fate, even though they share 50% of your DNA? Have you stopped caring about the fate of your grandchildren who will carry 25% of your DNA or your great grandchildren who will share 15% of your DNA? Have you decided that, because your great-great grandchildren will share less than 10% of your DNA, your DNA Dynasty’s future is just not worth the effort of negotiating a hard bargain on Brexit?

    Or, have you decided that you and your children will make more money by siding with the globalists, Momma Minister?

  44. @G

    The present situation in Europe is reverse colonialism i.e. people of the ex colonies are now colonising the old ‘mother countries’. However, while traditional imperialism is often reversible in that if the imperial power is defeated, the subject peoples can reclaim their civilisation, the current population replacement is not. At current rates of immigration and immigrant population growth, most Europeans will be a minority in their own countries some time this century.

    In order to reverse this trend, Identitarians need to change its passive stance to a more pro-active one, perhaps adopting the strategies of other groups e.g. the Indian Independence movement or MLK’s Civil Rights movement which utilised civil disobedience and non violent non co-operation. The success of previous groups shows it can be done but Identitarians must actively reclaim historic European lands for European peoples, thereby preserving European culture and civilisation. If not, Europeans will find themselves relegated to the dustbin of history, like so many others before them.

    Jews were instrumental in establishing European hegemony in Asia and Africa (e.g. the East India Company was largely Jewish) to exploit the colonies, and also in dismantling the European empires, and now push for open borders to destroy Europe. Jews have always hated Christian Europe where they have never been able to completely subjugate the people, and unless Identitarians (or someone else) stands up to them, this time they will destroy Europe forever.

    • Replies: @G
  45. G says:
    @Miro23

    Brexit is a different concept. It’s a desire to be left alone in a historic homeland without mass immigration and globalist rulemaking from the E.U.

    This is what some people believe to be voting for, but it isn’t at all. It was clear to me since 2014 that Britain would desire to leave the EU. Since the British were reluctant to join in the first place, always desired special conditions and historically never saw itself as part of continental Europe, which is the backbone of the EU – France, Germany, the Karolingian Empire, the Holy Roman Empire and so on. This is clear if you actually read and listen to one of its actual founding father figures, Otto von Habsburg, with Christianity as the foundation of the Pan-European Union. So culturally at least identitarian in actual origin, contrary to the constantly repeated Kalergi quote.

    What Brexit became however, is a Zionist and US-imperialist backed attack not on Merkel, who is a not even ethnically German puppet anyway and whose ancestors fought against my country in both world wars, but on Germany itself and on the European sphere of influence. It are Nigel Farrage’s own words. Over and over and over again: The EU was designed to containe the “dominance” of Germany. NOW that it no longer does, it needs to be destroyed. It is also ridiculous at best to suggest the cold war between the EU and the USA was initiated by the EU and not the other way around.
    Now Brexit was backed by proud Christian Zionists and personal friends of Sheldon Adelson like Steve Bannon of Breitbart and much other Ziocon media. This is no coincidence And it is quite natural, since Israel always hated the EU, because it was actively supporting Palestinian human rights. – That’s one reason. – Just as all the counter-jihadist Zionists like Peter Hitchens, Mark Steyn, Charles Murray and others were and are deeply hostile towards both the EU and Germany alike. I am rather disappointed, that I have to spell this out even on this site.

    Just like the US-Empire, which is the Ziocon empire now, desires equally to take out its competition in a sovereign European sphere of influence. And there is one significant “divide and conquer” campaign in Europe today and that was and is Brexit. I wonder how often it needs to be repeated, how often also widely known commentators like Noam Chomsky need to repeat it: Brexit primarily benefits the US-Zionist-Empire and won’t make Britain independent, but bring it entirely under the control of the USA. Which is not good for the world and it is not good for Britain and it weakens Europe at the benefit of the Ziocons.

    While the alleged “dominance” of Germany is a dreadful lie. Especially in this relation. A country that does not posess a single nuke, is objectively still occupied, is gutted in its territory – even after the “reunification” with a dreaful geographic position, doesn’t have over 200 military bases globally and a military force that cannot be taken seriously. Including the financial imperialism and manipulation that is being orchestrated not from Frankfurt, but from Wall Street.

    Brexit serves noone but the PNAC agenda of “America the soul superpower” and will help to keep the European nations as permanent vassal states of the USA and thus of the Ziocon empire. The British people desire freedom and will get even worse conditions. Just as with Trump and the USA. And the time will come for the British to wish they only had to deal and negotiate with the interests of my nation or the corruption and beaurocracy of Brussels and not the Ziocon dominated most powerful nation on earth with even worse levels of corruption.

    Much in similarity to the famous Churchill quote: “This is not a war on Merkel or the EU. It is a war on Germany and Europe!” And who hasn’t understood this, has understood nothing. And it is being orchestrated by the exact same powers that were behind the world wars. And before people realize this, it will be too late. And then again long worded articles by the future Mr. Unz need to disenchant the mirrors of illusions that are and will be errected. And it is hard to understand that someone who knows about the Oded-Yinon Plan, like Mr. Atzmon, does not see this aswell.

  46. G says:
    @Fran Taubman

    If anything the Jews give them what little coherence they have.
    They have learned the USE big word COLONIAL, and it makes Europe quake from their own colonial guilt, fits right into Gilad’s narrative. Gilad’s philosophical voodoo would not go over so well here in America, we are cowboys and do not take that kind of voodoo lightly. In short we think it is crap.

    Just for clarification: You are suggesting Jewish/leftist pressure groups and lobbies do not advocate for irrational policies based on colonial narratives and weaponize (white) guilt to achieve them in the USA?

    https://forward.com/scribe/414506/americans-need-a-dose-of-german-guilt/

    Oh and speaking of “we are cowboys here”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTfWdCUugjg

    It’s true, I guess: Jewish humor really is the best!

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  47. G says:
    @TheJewishQuestion

    The present situation in Europe is reverse colonialism i.e. people of the ex colonies are now colonising the old ‘mother countries’.

    I do agree, yet most of them do not fully do it out of their own desires. You too must be aware of much of it is orchestrated by non-European entities. With logistics, false promises and wars as driving factors. From Soros Open Society Foundation, from humanitarian to specifically Jewish NGOs, finally the churches and it’s NGOs; I even strongly suspect the CIA in Libya.

    What’s more is the artificial and alien construct of the ideology behind it. Which is for the most part entirely non-European in origin. For instance, when a country like Germany is accused of ‘moral imperialism’ that term is correct. What is however missing in that picture then, is, that the ‘moral imperialism’ was used against the German people beforehand and to colonize them: spiritually and intellectually and demographically in the first place. And I suspect the same is true for France, Britain and other Western European countries.

  48. Just for clarification: You are suggesting Jewish/leftist pressure groups and lobbies do not advocate for irrational policies based on colonial narratives and weaponize (white) guilt to achieve them in the USA?

    Jewish leftist groups are the most confused people on the planet. I am not here to defend them, actually I do not know what they believe.

    I did not understand the video at all. Sorry

    • Replies: @G
  49. @G

    White racism or identity and privilege is not universal.
    I am a female artist/designer in a mostly European gay male dominated field.
    Before I pick my head of the pillow each morning, I have to be like 10 times better then them.
    Must not dwell on it, just the facts. So I have my own problems, I also support myself with my art, so my field of caring about white privilege is limited.

  50. anon[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    Dont forger the facts the Jews did nits end them They left to escape the Evangelical supported End Timer supported Southern Baptists and encouraged wars against Muslims.
    Dont calme the Jews now . We have seen the glee among the whites when Saddm’s state came down and when sad was captured . WE have seen the hatred anger and despise in the eyes and the lips of FOX and CNN commentators regarding Falluzah .
    The sick people inhabiting the west-UK_ USA France Roamina need a brutal awakening Whats wrong with that ? Whats wrong with the revenge exacted by the 3 rd world ?

  51. G says:
    @Fran Taubman

    It is rather simple, Fran Taubman. I was asking you, if you seriously denied that Jewish groups do use guilt on (white Americans) to push their own interests. As you suggested it only works on Europeans BY Muslims in regard to their dreadful selves who do the best to villify themselves.

    But here it is…!

    Jewish leftist groups are the most confused people on the planet. I am not here to defend them, actually I do not know what they believe.

    I did not understand the video at all. Sorry

    and

    White racism or identity and privilege is not universal.
    I am a female artist/designer in a mostly European gay male dominated field.
    Before I pick my head of the pillow each morning, I have to be like 10 times better then them.
    Must not dwell on it, just the facts. So I have my own problems, I also support myself with my art, so my field of caring about white privilege is limited.

    “The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their flagrant usage of fallacies of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme”

    Truly fascinating! Haha!

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  52. Ace says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I agree with David, Mr. Atzmon. I don’t think of Israel when I seethe over the abandonment of America as a white, European majority nation. It’s just common sense to preserve one’s homeland and its culture and racial composition. If there are any points of reference in my thinking they are the movement in America in 1925 to shut down immigration and Ike’s Operation Wetback.

    Israel only comes to mind for the utter hypocrisy of American Jews to swoon over the Israeli ethnostate where Jews can spit on Christians, Jews are prohibited from marrying Christians in Israel, and border control is the essence of Israeli policy yet they (American Jews) do all that is in their power to ensure that white America never dares to contemplate effective policies of national preservation. The HIAS, ADL, BB and all the rest labor long and hard to destroy America as a coherent culture and nation.

    A minor point. I appreciate your insights into how Britain is controlled by Jews.

    • Replies: @G
  53. @G

    I believe you are reading too much into this. I am an immigrant from an ex colony and I, like most other immigrants I know, came to the UK for a better life. We were not enticed with false promises or escaping wars etc, we just wanted to escape the poverty and mess of the Third World. Unfortunately too many of us coming over have resulted in recreating the very countries we were escaping from, as it is the people that make a country good or bad. I don’t believe that immigrants are inherently bad, and some do add value to their adopted nation, but that changing the demographics of a nation through mass immigration is wrong. Each nation has a right to self determination and its people live among their own ethnic group. Just as my country expelled the British from India, Indentitarians and other Europeans must seek independence from the colonists.

    • Replies: @G
  54. G says:
    @Ace

    Israel only comes to mind for the utter hypocrisy of American Jews to swoon over the Israeli ethnostate where Jews can spit on Christians, Jews are prohibited from marrying Christians in Israel, and border control is the essence of Israeli policy yet they (American Jews) do all that is in their power to ensure that white America never dares to contemplate effective policies of national preservation. The HIAS, ADL, BB and all the rest labor long and hard to destroy America as a coherent culture and nation.

    Needless to say they do the exact same thing in every European country they reside in. Jewish support for new nationalist movement goes overwhelmingly only so far as to rally the sentiment against Islam and to control the parties to keep them entirely “civic nationalist” and Zionist, while removing the notions that a French/German/Dutch/Italian/English people actually exist and have value.
    This becomes even more evident when one looks at the fact that in the early times, up until the early to mid 2000s the Jewish diaspora sought to ally itself with the Muslim community and bind “islamophobia” to “anti-semitism” similarly as the Muslim Brotherhoods seems to have seen the opportunity to include “islamophobia” into the context of “homophobia” and leftist identity politics. But the continued immigration of Muslims into Europe and the USA became a (minor) challenge to their power and status as the dominating protected class. Since then a significant number of journalists, think tanks and action groups have aligned themselves with the new right as its desired controlled opposition.

    But in addition to the policies there are regularly open and direct attacks on the people in a collectively demonizing, racially loaded manner. Especially in Germany. Which in my experience go beyond the anti-white rhetoric in the US and target the folk directly.

    • Replies: @Ace
  55. peterAUS says:
    @G

    Decent comments. Agree with something, undecided on something, disagree with something. Never mind that.
    To the point: if you can organize, say……an entity (not a party, just sort of “association” or similar) of 200 000 Germans based on that “German identiy” idea, well, what would be The Plan?
    You, Germans, once upon a time were (in)famous (depending on a viewpoint, of course) for very effective plans and executions based on idea(s).
    So, as apparently, a modern German who’s thought a LOT about the problem, well…what would be The Plan?

    Here is a good comparison from not so distant past, just to get the ball rolling:
    Nationalist core got organized in centralized association, with strict hierarchy. Not so many, but dedicated to the cause. The objective: an independent state. The method: win the legal elections and then restructure the state mechanism, replace most of state employees and, in effect, create a new society. The key to the effort was, IMHO, quite detailed vision of what that new society would look like, so people could see what EXACTLY they should spend some effort on. Risk their lives in necessary, even.

    So, how is that Germany of yours supposed to look like? From the top to the bottom? Chancellor or President on top, for example?
    ECONOMY. What type? MONEY…..
    CITIZENSHIP?
    State apparatus for delivery of violence?

    And that’s the easy part. The hard, real part is: TIMETABLE.
    We’ve seen what happens, as in Brexit and Trump how it looks like where there is neither plan nor timetable.

    What say you, please?

  56. G says:
    @TheJewishQuestion

    Keep in mind the situation is very complex. Take the so called “refugee crisis” for example. You had genuine refugees from Syria, some women and children, but you also had Islamic State terrorists abusing the chaos of the situation to infiltrate Europe to conduct terror attacks and to conceil themselves as asylum seekers. The bombing in Brussels which killed 32 and forced the EU parliament to be evacuated is on example and afaik some members of the Bataclan massacre used the Balkan route aswell. Then you had Georgian and Albanian mafia gangs abusing the chaos, too. Then migrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan and even Bangladesh who seem to have been guided here by international NGOs, Soros and others. And you had the majority, which were economic migrants from North Africa.

    When I talk about “false promises” I write specifically about the situation in 2015 and on when NGOs goaded immigrants into Europe with propaganda material they distributed. Several journalists got a hold of them, one of them was Billy Six. I do not talk about immigrants from India, or other former British colonies in general, let alone all of them. I also think that especially in the case of Indians they are simply looking for a better life indeed. I also don’t deny that selected immigrants, especially specialized scientists, engineers, doctors and so on, can add value to a nation. But that’s not the situation I am refering to and what is being done to Europe or the USA today. Or what right-wing Identitarians are primarily against.

    Equally I do not believe that the majority of third/second world immigrants immigrate consciously to take over the nation. I also don’t think the Mexicans do that. But we know, from their own writings sometimes, that voting patterns of immigrants and a permanent underclass dependent on welfare and the state are good for the left. And they help facilitate their immigration, or at the very least welcome the immigration. The further away from the host culture and the less qualified and thus the more dependent on the leftist state the better in this case. Victor Orbán also mentioned this as early as 2016.

    Unfortunately I don’t read too much into it. The measures of subversion and corruption I refer to are taking place. But neither do I accuse all immigrants or think of all immigrants as conscious “invaders”.

    But the fact of the matter is also that Africa’s population will grow to 4 billion by the end of this century and an overwhelming number of them wants to move to Europe. Around 20% are sitting on “packed coffers” according to Professor Gunnar Heinshon. — Regardless of all considerations of religion, culture, crime and race: the sheer number would overwhelm geographically vulnerable and exposed Europe. Add the anti-white/anti-european identity politics of the radical “identitarian” left and you have a recipe for absolute disaster.
    Without some form of ethnic self-preservation we will simply cease to exist as European peoples. And certainly not in a peaceful transformation that would make Europe a better place. While ironically the continet would turn culturally more conservative with Christian and Muslim immigrants from Africa.

    • Replies: @TheJewishQuestion
  57. Ace says:
    @ParadoxRocks

    The “anti-Semitism” full-court press is much evident now but it will exhaust itself in due course. When Mr. Zionism, the number one donor to Trump, publicly says he regrets his service in the US Army and wished he’d served in the IDF instead and that he wants his son to be an IDF sniper, Americans will soon be willing to discuss the topic of dual allegiance, if “dual” is quite the right word.

    Also, it’s quite difficult to discern the American interest in war in the ME but it’s easy to see how American military power serves the interests of Israel. The ruinous expense of our activities over there and the absurdity of having 1,500 US troops headed to somewhere in the ME on some bogus mission and NOT being sent to the US border is enough to infuriate even the most somnolent.

    Too, Jews run scared over the issue of their key role in Bolshevism and the slaughter or Russian Christians. The fact that Genrick Yagoda killed more Christians then Hitler did Jews is one of those wildly inconvenient facts that must be suppressed like the pawnbroker’s memories in that old movie.

    Also, the Christian Zionists are as much of an impediment to honest discussion of Israel’s importance to the US as the Jewish media.

    • Replies: @G
  58. @Gilad Atzmon

    “xenophobia” is just another Jew slur aimed at people who want to live amongst their own and in their own ways.

    For a former Jew, you’re being very disingenuous like a, well actual Jew.

    You are an interested party – you want to be a cosmopolitan wandering Jew – but yours is an outlook shared by a tiny portion of the world’s peoples.

    You fear you might not be welcome in a nationalist world.

    That doesn’t mean we ‘fear’ the other, or that we hate the other, unlike you Jews.

    It means we don’t want you taking over our lands.

    You sound, more and more, like just another flavour of Jewish supremacist.

    And, you need to go live amongst your own instead of being another tiresome Jew tossing slurs at the European peoples.

  59. G says:
    @Ace

    The fact that Genrick Yagoda killed more Christians then Hitler did Jews is one of those wildly inconvenient facts that must be suppressed

    Is that really true…? If so, indeed. It would entirely disarm the anti-German council of Jews in Germany and its activists of ‘Jewishness’ as Atzmon might call them.

    Germany cannot afford to reject refugees, says Josef Schuster, head of the Central Council of German Jews (Zentralrat der deutschen Juden). It (Germany) has brought “evil” upon others and is indebted to other nations.
    According to the President of the GJCC, Josef Schuster, Germany is “the last land that can afford to reject refugees and persecuted people.” It has brought so much evil [“perdition”] upon the world and it is deeply in debt with so many countries, he said on Sunday during a memorial ceremony marking the 70th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camp at Dachau on Apr 29, 1945.
    He asks himself, when today, again, some citizens hunt [agitate] against refugees or talk in a demeaning way about Jews, how deep the need for protecting human dignity is anchored in people´s minds.
    Dachau´s prisoners would have known, Schuster noted, how fast human civilization could be laid into ruins. “How a people from a supposedly [sic!!] cultured nation (Kulturvolk] became barbarians.” Fundamental values such as tolerance, respect, humility and responsibility should always be re-exercized and defended.

    https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=78011

    But then again I don’t see the status of my nation as basically one political sect, not unlike North Korea, changing any time soon. And certainly not with the USA under such total control of the Ziocons and the USA being the hegemon over Europe. In fact even posting here feels risky enough.

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @nokangaroos
  60. Ace says:
    @G

    ** while removing the notions that a French/German/Dutch/Italian/English people actually exist and have value **

    Public debate or, rather, any “debate” on the MSM treats the idea of whites being the founding people of America the same way Superman treated kryptonite. It is permissible to refer to “Americans” and African-Americans (and the latters’ endless trials and indignities at the hands of white) but it is simply out of the question to question the desirability of whites slipping further and further in majority-minority status and then, inevitably, into our being just one minority among many others, like Luke Skywalker patronizing the bar in that “Star Wars” movie.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  61. @G

    That is pretty good, I sounded just like that.

    To answer your question which I now understand, the white Americans thru me.

    It is rather simple, Fran Taubman. I was asking you, if you seriously denied that Jewish groups do use guilt on (white Americans) to push their own interests. As you suggested it only works on Europeans BY Muslims in regard to their dreadful selves who do the best to villify themselves.

    NO THEY DO NOT
    Are you an American?
    But you missed my original point, my bad. Arab muslims use the “colonial” game against the attempt to delegitimize Israel. It is dishonest and they lie a lot about the history. It is a religious war, and they do not want any Jews with hegemony in the ME. They do not want any Jews there period.
    Until the Arab muslims come clean with their insane, irrational Jew hatred to scape goat their own failures, no peace is possible. It pisses me off.

    • Replies: @G
  62. G says:
    @Fran Taubman

    NO THEY DO NOT

    Fascinating! I have never actually met a “flat earther” in person, so to speak. It’s quite impressive to share the same material universe with you.

    And no. I am not an American. But I have been following the political developments in the USA very closely for several years now, much more closely than most Americans probably, and have also worked with US journalists. And because I am German, your colonial subject so to speak, we do not only live in the same cultural sphere, we are also ingesting the same historical and cultural narratives. Without the American Pravda alternative as provided by this site.

    And not that the palestine-israel conflict is primarily my business – although Israel and the US Galut do drag us into it all the time: don’t you think that conquering a land, ethnically cleansing hundreds of thousands of people, killing many thousands of them, errecting walls through their territory and then planting racial colonies in the West Bank – which afaik was intended to be the foundation for their state in the case of a two-state solution – while having racial policies and actually discriminating against them (Jewish only state as defined by Netanyahu, Jewish-only roads and other means of segregation) and bombing them as you please as in the second Gaza war which killed over 2,000 Palestinians is colonialism…?

    And I’d suggest that knowing that Jewish neocons orchestrated wars killing at least over a million Arabs, alone 500-800 hundred thousand children starving to death in the US sanctions against Iraq, which was called “worth it!” by Madeleine Albright is somewhat of a reason for “irrational jew hatred”…? Cuz seems kind of a dick move to me!

    And if we are going for mythical historical justifications for state foundations, I’d advocate for giving the region back to the Seleucids and making Greco-Buddhism the official state religion. Might chill the entire region! Muslims, Evangelicals and Jews alike. Hey, at least Greco-Buddhism doesn’t believe in blowing up the whole planet to please “God” and fulfill “his” prophecy!

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  63. @G

    LOL No matter how much you have studied America from far away, (lol more than most Americans, think a lot of yourself ?) or how deeply you think you know our country, it is still not knowable unless you are living here, and have roots here, for the simple reason that what most people think is not recorded.

    The visible forces you hear come from New York, Chicago and California. Most of America lies in between, and do not say much.

    I have read your post and you are way off.
    Further more you sound like a snob, a know it all a put down artist and also a real dick.
    Good luck getting to any understanding with that attitude.

    Jewish neocons? You can do better then that is such old hat, most of the neocons in the US are not Jewish, even by name some have mixed background. Both the Defense communities and intel communities are void of Jews. The generals, the Secretary of State, and Defense and perhaps the biggest Neocon of them all Cheny is not Jewish, but that wouldn’t fit your made for order narrative.

    • Replies: @G
  64. @G

    The refugee crisis was created by the civil war in Syria and exploited by Jews et al to open European borders to the whole world. It gave Europeans a taste of what happens when anyone can move freely to Europe – and they don’t need Soros etc to motivate them, so focusing on conspiracy theories doesn’t help. The issue of why people migrate (invariably for their own economic advantage) is secondary to the fact that they do, and the impact they will have on the host nation. At best some will fill a skills shortage, but the majority will use far more in resources (housing, healthcare, etc) than they will ever contribute. More importantly is the question of European survival as Europeans simply cannot absorb the huge numbers who wish to migrate to Europe.

    You also do not address why people migrate from these countries in the first instance, probably because you don’t wish to be labelled a ‘racist’. As an immigrant I will say that the country I left behind is corrupt, dangerous and overpopulated because its people are generally dishonest, have little regard for the rule of law, and refuse family planning. Failure to restrict mass immigration from my country will result in yours becoming like mine, because people make a country what it is.

    Do Identitarians have a plan to deal with mass migration, or at least acknowledge that this problem will not go away without direct intervention? The independence movement in India took decades of planning, hard work and sacrifice before it realised its goal of expelling the colonisers. I suspect your German reserve prevents you from stating the obvious – that immigration from any non white country into Europe is almost always undesirable because of the incompatibility of values and cultures. Europe can absorb small numbers of non white foreigners, but mass migration will destroy European civilisation.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @G
  65. Ace says:
    @G

    I made a note of the fact about Yagoda which was provided by commenter Miro23 here on an article by John Derbyshire.

    Here: http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/mourning-in-america-a-patriot-spring-in-europe/#comment-1649954

    See also: Stalin’s Jews: Some of History’s Greatest Murderers Were Jewish
    S. Plocker – Ynet News (Israel)
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    The resistance to change anywhere in Europe and the US is astonishing. I never tire of observing how patriot, salvationist parties receive minuscule increases in support, even in the face of glaring pathologies easily linked to the importation of primitives.

    Jewish investment in The Narrative is prodigious. The right must be discredited by locating National Socialists on the right and obscuring at all costs the true record of leftist totalitarianism in which Jews have played such a central or commanding role. There might be five Hollywood movies about the Gulag but there are hundreds of movies about the distilled evil of Germans to a man.

    And, of course, “nationalism” is condemned as an immense evil, another cause of the woes of the world up to 1945 and beyond. The irony alarm goes off with the founding of the EU as a solution to the “problem” of nationalism but incorporating an authoritarian structure with no handbrake. Next stop, total control as per the Soviet Union but no one seems to notice. And free speech is obliterated at the national level. Thus was victory achieved in the hot and cold wars of the last century.

    This may be a bit disjointed, for which kindly forgive me.

    • Replies: @G
  66. G says:
    @Fran Taubman

    LOL No matter how much you have studied America from far away, (lol more than most Americans, think a lot of yourself ?) or how deeply you think you know our country, it is still not knowable unless you are living here, and have roots here, for the simple reason that what most people think is not recorded.

    Well, it’s a predictable reaction. It’s not surpsing to me that you think I am way off, given your positions. And I simply interacted a lot with US citizens over the years. With thousands. Thus I think I have a rather clear understanding of how much they do know about the political inner-workings of their country. Including what the elites of the USA think about middle-America and the “fly-overs”. What’s more: general population opinion in the USA does not design foreign policy, nor does it truly matter for domestic policy. Unless you are moving closer to the upper 10% income class, or better the billionaire class. And this is not new, including the times when the USA entered WW2.

    Jewish neocons? You can do better then that is such old hat, most of the neocons in the US are not Jewish

    Interesting. So Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland, Richard Perle, Charles Krauthammer, Paul Wolfowitz are not Jewish? John Bolton is not a guardian of Zion? Nevermind the connections between them, the Kushners, Sheldon Adelson and Trump. On the board of Genie Energy in the Golan Hights we do not find Rupert Murdoch, Jacob Rothschild himself, the former head of the CIA and Dick Cheney to name a few?

    Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan’s wife, who is co-founder of Project for a New American Century, did not approve of and bsically staff the Ukraine government after the coup? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QxZ8t3V_bk

    Also the current secretary of state currently is Mike Pompeo, an ardent Christian Zionist, just like Mike Pence, who is on record saying this about Donald Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_o50zCoVHc

    Both the Defense communities and intel communities are void of Jews.

    Firstly this is objectively false, secondly it is not decisive. Since they do not design foreign policy. I also know that much of the CIA was opposed to the second Iraq war, because they had actual intel and experts on the Middle East who could foretell the consequences of it. Including intel about alleged WMDs which came from a defector to the German BND. Of whom they knew he could be lying. But the USA turned his informations into hard fact, because they wanted the war. And we know who wanted it. And the CIA’s objecting analysis did not matter.

    It also does not matter, because US foreign policy is entirely under the influene of Aipac, Likud and the Ziocons now. Entirely. The wars in Iraq, Syria, Libya, the move of the embassy to Jerusalem, the sanctions against Russia, the sanctions against Iran speak volumes about it. It is also debunked, on this site no less, that “Dick Cheney is the biggest Neocon of them all”. Instead he is the typical gentile fall guy. Like Donald Rumsfeld. Just like Thomas Barnett and Fukuyama were the public faces to the world, so few people would know who the actual east coast elites were behind that world view. Just like C.G. Jung was the gentile face of psychoanalysis and gentile communists were used as frontmen.
    And no, the generals are certainly not the most hardline Zionists, including if they are Jewish like Wesley Clark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw It’s the chicken-hawks who never have to fight in wars and see their men die.

    Sorry, Fran, you are not arguing in good faith. More like Hasbara. And if a bit of humor is too much to deal with for you, given what you defend, it speaks more about you than me. And also no: in fact I wish I knew a lot more. As much as Mr. Unz or The Saker. Because almost all we are fed today is lies and disinformation. And it concerns me, since you, the USA, brought war to Europe, in Yugoslavia and Ukraine, and to its backyard in North Africa. And to the Middle East. Ultimately causing the refugee crisis and Brexit. And since you occupy my country to this very day. Spying on my people, brainwashing them, installing puppets and CIA run national newspapers. What your nation does, does concern me. If you want it otherwise: Get out of Europe and stop occupying us!

  67. @anonymous

    Here it comes, the easy and ‘ safe ‘ way out . ‘ Hitler is the Israeli PM. He was NOT and opposed Jewish Power in all of its manifestations . He was also very pro British. Without the Jews pushing Britain in declaring war on Germany ,September 3 ,1939 , and NM Rothschilds paying Churchill to keep that war going, Britain would of maintained its world position ,and kept its Empire . Rothschild gained rule of the Bank Of England ,because of Britain war debt in 1943 , and with German defeat, International Jewery gained full power in Europe ,and Western Affairs . Support of ones people by a Gentile Nationalist ,is not the same as Jewish ‘ Nationalism / Zionism at all. Read Hitlers War ,David Irving ,Churchill War ,David Irving ,Churchill And The Jews ,Gilbert .

  68. @John Clay

    Jews own Britan ,and there nation / Empire known in Fundamentalist / Puritan English circles as ‘ The New Israel ,since Jewish Bankers supported Puritan Theocrat Oliver Cromwell in the 1600 s. They backed war ,after war for Jewish Financial ,and Imperial interests. There machinations for world Zionism from the Balfour Declaration to declaring war on Germany twice , then turning on the Soviet Union post WW2 when they said no to International Jewish Machinations. They where Israel allies in the 1956 attempt to retake Suez ,Eisenhower stopped . Israels owners NM Rothschilds own Britain through the Bank Of England . Your Fundamentalist ‘ living God ‘ theology is not about a spiritual Kingdom but an earthly power you worship, who is an Anti Christ State called Israel.

  69. paw says:
    @Miro23

    I do not see…. Said the blind man and went to the cinema..

  70. Miro23 says:
    @TheJewishQuestion

    Do Identitarians have a plan to deal with mass migration, or at least acknowledge that this problem will not go away without direct intervention? The independence movement in India took decades of planning, hard work and sacrifice before it realized its goal of expelling the colonizers. I suspect your German reserve prevents you from stating the obvious – that immigration from any non white country into Europe is almost always undesirable because of the incompatibility of values and cultures. Europe can absorb small numbers of non white foreigners, but mass migration will destroy European civilization.

    As G says, there are different kinds of migrations. The small number of British in Imperial India were there as Imperial administrators (and commercials). They retained their links to Britain and didn’t plan to stay. They basically ran India for the benefit of Great Britain and formed a separate ethnic elite which was friendly and socialized with the existing ethnic Indian elite (Indian princes).

    The US Jewish elite are no different. They are administrators and commercials who control government and censor the media. They run the US for the benefit of their own ethnic group and Homeland Israel. Also they are friendly and socialize with the existing gentile elite (Clintons, Bushes etc.). Mass immigration is an entirely logical way to break Anglo nationalism under a supposedly democratic system.

    Their problem (same as the British in India) is when the native population realize that they have been politically excluded in their own country. The process takes time. The British started with commercial outposts that grew in size with increasing political influence, until piece by piece, they controlled the whole country. At this point they got the Indian independence movement and a general collapse. The British didn’t have the resources (military and police) to control the civil unrest.

    If small numbers of British had emigrated to India, integrated, become Anglo-Indians, or even just lived in enclaves without making claims on political power, everything would have been OK, but Imperialism doesn’t work that way.

  71. Maybe the doctor can give you something. You are irrational, like all conspiracy groups. All you have are Jewish names to hang there theories on. No one group of people think in lock step or carry out a central theme, we do not meet in private and come up with ideas on how to fuck with the world.
    Jews do not operate in a vacuum, there is plenty of other bad stuff going on in the world by really bad people, that are not Jews. There is cause and effect every moment of everyday that has nothing Zionism.

    My favorite right now and the dilemma that you conspiracy nuts are trying to figure out is:

    Are the Jews on the Left? (traditional) or
    On the right. Like all those eastern European countries.
    That is a trick question beyond whitey.
    They are capitalist no they are communist, they are everywhere.

    No No no dick head we did not destabilize Syria to create a migration to Europe to create the Zionist conspiracy to take over Britain on our way to take over the EU to the Zionist take over of the world!!!

    I am sorry I thought you were a really bad writer. I had no idea you were into deep conspiracy theories. Now that I know you are a total nut job, my humor is back.
    I have a good book for you.

    Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    Don’t you just love this, this is real comedy from this thread, and you want my defense?

    Jews own Britan ,and there nation / Empire known in Fundamentalist / Puritan English circles as ‘ The New Israel ,since Jewish Bankers supported Puritan Theocrat Oliver Cromwell in the 1600 s. They backed war ,after war for Jewish Financial ,and Imperial interests. There machinations for world Zionism from the Balfour Declaration to declaring war on Germany twice , then turning on the Soviet Union post WW2 when they said no to International Jewish Machinations. They where Israel allies in the 1956 attempt to retake Suez ,Eisenhower stopped . Israels owners NM Rothschilds own Britain through the Bank Of England . Your Fundamentalist ‘ living God ‘ theology is not about a spiritual Kingdom but an earthly power you worship, who is an Anti Christ State called Israel.

  72. Eckbach says:
    @MarkU

    What they really ought to do is what king Edward I did in 1290, kick ALL the Jews out of Britain on pain of death.
    https://big-lies.org/jews-nation-wreckers-1975/index.html
    First to go should be all the vampires in the City.

  73. Popeye says:

    At one time brexit was a fact based argument rooted in economics principally. A case of Brits resenting too many Polish plumbers or latvian cabbies cutting into wages, or EU vessels getting 90percent of fish in UK eez waters. Now however it’s visceral and jugular. Uk voters by a small margin voted to exit EU. A popular vote done democratically. But Merkel and EU elites didn’t approve. So they did their best to sabotage uk exit. Essentially they sabotaged Democratic wish of UK voters. So now UK voters are highly preved. It’s moved far beyond Polish plumbers. EU elites thought they’d screw with the UK electorate. A very bad move

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  74. @G

    Thank you for the thoughtful articulation. Allow me to concur and add that we identerians do not want to subjugate or conquer other peoples. The Age of Conquest must end now before it ends us.

    We also reject the deceptive banners of ‘regime change’, ‘pro-democracy intervention’, and even ‘women’s rights’ when these missions are used by imperial powers and subversive NGOs as cover to interfere and undermine the sovereignty and traditions of other cultures.

    Since we identerians wish to preserve our unique and extraordinary cultures, we must support the same right for others. This is sensible, fair, and just.

    We white identerians support cultural stability, peaceful co-existence, and self-determination for all.

    Multiculturalism however is a top-down process of dissolution. It undermines nationhood, cultural stasis, and racial cohesion.

    These hostile elites behind multiculturalism seek not only the permanent transformation of once-distinct European nation-states, but even the dissolution of European-derived peoples wherever they dwell.

    • Replies: @G
  75. @G

    In fact things are a lot worse than that.

    Over the course of the 20th century Jews have massacred roughly 1 million p/a, not counting wars on their behalf (quite a feat for a people of 15 million) , starting with the Armenians.
    Enver, Talaat, Djemal and Mehmed Javid Bej (as well as their backers and financiers) were not “Turks” but dönme (roughly:”renegades”, crypto-jews) who got at the Armenians because they were
    a) Christians,
    b) economic competition, and
    c) colluded with Russia
    (so much for Fran´s “non-jewish” neocons)
    It took Mustafa Kemal (“Atatürk”), an actual Turkish nationalist educated at a dönme academy (because his father wanted “the modern education”), to take the country back.
    Franz Werfel (“Die vierzig Tage des Musa Dagh”) knew that of course, but you need the background to understand his dog whistles.

    Much the same with the Ukrainian genocide – which makes the current situation there all the harder to understand; the ghosts of Bandera and Sconprynka must be screaming and jumping up and down at what their scions (“Azow Bn.” etc.) are doing (good example of the “Zionist Right”).

    And so on ad infinitum (nausea sets in early).

    – None of this makes any difference; as you know the mere mention of the obvious
    (“relativieren”) is a punishable offense 😉

    – And Fran, the Protocols are indeed interesting reading;
    in science we have this concept of “predictive power”: If a theory makes correct predictions, it is good (more precisely, “a useful model”).
    I notice, however, that they are a wee bit hard to come by 😀

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  76. @Ace

    it is simply out of the question to question the desirability of whites slipping further and further in majority-minority status and then, inevitably, into our being just one minority among many others..

    You are correct–it is out of the question even to wonder aloud. But whites are not on their way toward being “just another minority” in America: They’re on their way toward being the one minority it’s not only legal and accepted but encouraged to despise and treat like vermin.

    What current policies are hastening is the disenfranchisement, dispossession, and ultimately the enslaving of our children and their children. It’s nothing to be celebrating. It’s something to be resisted, as vociferously and even as violently as necessary. But who can resist when it’s social and career suicide even to mention?

  77. @Popeye

    Let´s see …
    – Far from “freeing their hands” it will increase Britain´s dependency on “sole source” suppliers of comfort,
    – pit NATO against the EU,
    – force the Poles to grovel before Israel (to no avail) because they are scared shitless of the Germans (the ONLY reason NATO is oh-so-popular in these quarters),
    – force the Germans (sans Merkel) to turn toward Russia (about time, though you probably have to thank Orange Man more for that),
    – make the Irish very hostile,
    – overall increase friction in the system (Europe) for little reason.

    I see more tension, more bad faith, more sanctions, more armament and more internal oppression pasted over by more pointless wars, but hardly any grounds for rah-rah jingoism unless you are genitally mutilated and invested in defense stock.
    Not to second-guess your decision … I just can´t believe you voted for some kind of
    New Singapore/City of London/Airstrip One 😉

  78. G says:
    @TheJewishQuestion

    The refugee crisis was created by the civil war in Syria and exploited by Jews et al to open European borders to the whole world.

    This is only partially true since only around 400,000 of the 900,000 in 2015 to Germany alone came actually from Syria. The rest came from the locations I described by the means I did. Please research the topic a little bit more.

    It gave Europeans a taste of what happens when anyone can move freely to Europe – and they don’t need Soros etc to motivate them, so focusing on conspiracy theories doesn’t help.

    Except that they could not. Merkel broke our own constitution, article 16(a)2, to allow these people into the country, actively gave the order with Thomas de Maiziere not to close our borders when the police still had the means to do so and it was legal to do so. It also violated European law related to Schengen and asylum seekers. And the Open Society Foundation is deeply entrenched in my country. Just like US think tanks and NGOs. Dismissing it as “conspiracy theories” when you are not informed about the actual conditions, is, what does not help. – What is a rumor is that Merkel herself let the Soros group design her Turkey deal and policy and also authored a paper on the future of Germany 2050 which casts an image that the country will be so full of immigrants and so inter-mixed that the concept of the immigrant or foreigner will have entirely disappeared. And I do not dismiss these either. Given her actions and her ideology and her B’nai Brith prize.

    I do not disagree with your points about non-white immigration. Which is why I highlighted the problem with Africa. Which will become much worse than anything related to the near east. And there will be wars a plenty to drive them here. – And of course identitarians are fully aware of those factors. And that the leftist press almost entirely surpresses them, calls them racist, bigotted or, indeed, conspiracy theories.

    • Replies: @TheJewishQuestion
  79. G says:
    @Ace

    The resistance to change anywhere in Europe and the US is astonishing. I never tire of observing how patriot, salvationist parties receive minuscule increases in support, even in the face of glaring pathologies easily linked to the importation of primitives.

    This is not surprising since media (to a large extent) creates reality and thus desire and then voting patterns. And if 2/3 of journalists in Germany are on the left or far left, the same is true about teachers and university professors, you get the results we have. Especially among first time voters. Plus the other dystopian aspects, especially in this country which you might be aware of. Then in the USA you have the addition of the JQ in terms of media control. Not so much in Europe. Except by proxy through US control over a lot of German nation wide and state controled media. Since Germany is not a sovereign nation state since 1945.

    And the holocaust narrative was historically used to justify Sovietism as it still benefits the left today and immunizes the far left to face its own crimes. Including the fact that Jews plaid indeed an enormous role in its creation, funding, orchestration and execution.

    I disagree in the origins of the EU though. It was not planned at this. And the US and (far) right theory of Kalergi -> EU – > Refugee Crisis -> White Genocide does not hold up. It mostly shows ignorance of its actual founding fathers, their intentions back then, its laws and institutions and how it actually works. Not that the effects you describe are not there. On the contrary: they absolutely are. But they are changes that happened in the last 20 odd yeas or so, including the increasing centralization which I disapprove of. Fully in line with the domestic changes that happened in the nations of the West over the same time period. And in the days of Adenauer and de Gaulle a united Europe meant a Europe of the fatherlands. While for example another recipient of the Karlspreis/former Kalergiprize was Helmut Kohl, father of German unification and thus a German nationalist figure.

    And the additional hate speech laws that go beyond the desire and lobbying of the usuals suspects and the German NetzDG were designed in the last four years since the so called “refugee crisis”. They are done by ideologues and apparatschiks and lobby groups that dominate the west today, nationally and internationally, but they are not really in line with what the founding fathers desired. Although they tended to be Christian universalists and multi-culturalists and I also think that the Euro and Schengen without real security for the exterior borders were dramatic mistakes. But what’s happening today is not the general result of the desire for a unified Europe, but of ideology, political actors and subversive NGOs.

  80. G says:
    @mark green

    I whole-heartedly agree.

    We also reject the deceptive banners of ‘regime change’, ‘pro-democracy intervention’, and even ‘women’s rights’ when these missions are used by imperial powers and subversive NGOs as cover to interfere and undermine the sovereignty and traditions of other cultures.

    Exactly they are also used against us, why should we wish it upon others. As much as I understand Gilad’s desire, how often today are (alleged) universalist values, including human rights, used to justify US imperialism and wars? Including Iraq and Syria. And was it ever different or exactly like this so from the beginning?

  81. @nokangaroos

    You don’t get it do you.? You don’t need a copy of Protocols Just follow G and some other Gilad cultist who have it all figured out it out as well as the end game.

    Their entire thesis is pretty much a cut and paste affair, from Protocols. Problems arise when the script bleeps out like when they need to go after lefty Jews who used to be their best buds for multiculturalism against the white,
    Their panties get into a real twist
    I mean what is a true Protocol to do when they are fighting for their countries identity and culture back from the EU to find out it was Christian who are now in bed with the can you imagine the Jews in a fight against Islam.
    And you end up on the FAR Right. Can you blame both the origins and the destruction of the EU on the Jews?
    What is a conspiracy theorist to think?

    What does your predictive science say about that scenario? Dang the whole script is blown to smithereens. And you are left (no pun) sorting thru Jewish neocons like the three Pashas who founded modern Turkey. What a mess.

    • Replies: @G
    , @nokangaroos
  82. @G

    I did not say that migrants can freely move to Europe anytime, only during the 2015 refugee crisis was this possible. I also stated that European borders were opened to the whole world during this period – and migrants from many nations including E/SE Asians, Africans, South Americans came. It is tiresome having to qualify every sentence, and it would be helpful if you read my statements properly before commenting. Can you prove that Soros and his Open Society Foundation was definitely behind this open borders policy? Though it is likely, it cannot be proven 100%, therefore it remains a conspiracy theory. All we know for certain was that Merkel and Maiziere did indeed relax Schengen requirements and permit over 1 million refugees, mostly Muslim men, into Germany, and other countries (esp Sweden) were impacted, though not to the same extent.

    As I mentioned, I am a migrant myself and move in migrant circles and my mother worked for UK immigration services for 30+ years. We are well aware of the reasons migrants move to Europe, and none of these involve Soros etc. People migrate with or without Soros et al, and have been migrating to escape war and poverty, or for a better life, since the dawn of civilisation (e.g. the Sea Peoples in the Bronze Age, Windrush in the 19040s, etc) to the present day. I have neither the time nor inclination to expand on such mass movements – please research the topic a little bit more. Finally, your focus on why people move, and how they may or may not have been facilitated or encouraged by Soros etc, which you cannot control, stops you from moving on to work out a strategy for dealing with migrants in Europe. Best of luck with it all, I’m done here.

    • Replies: @G
  83. G says:
    @TheJewishQuestion

    I did not say that migrants can freely move to Europe anytime, only during the 2015 refugee crisis was this possible.

    Again they couldn’t. Legally. Neither by air, land and sea. Merkel had to break our constitution to allow them in. And the leftist activists who also participated in it and the human trafficking were proud of breaking these laws. For “moral” reasons.

    Can you prove that Soros and his Open Society Foundation was definitely behind this open borders policy?

    I didn’t say that. The Merkel governemnt itself broke German and Schengen law. But it is, as I said, rumored that Soros designed Merkel’s Turkey deal. What is known and provable is that the Open Society Foundation is active in Berlin and doing lobby work. And Soros has extensive access to both Merkel and Jean-Claude Juncker. Just read any news article about their many, many meetings in international media.

    But Soros himself is a distraction and he also doesn’t play the central role for me.

  84. G says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Firstly, I am not a “Gilad cultist”. And I have also commented much less under his articles than you. Who actually seems rather obsessed with Mr. Atzmon.

    Secondly, I have never read the Protocols. I don’t even know what’s in them. But I am sure it is real in your mind.

    Thirdly, the EU was not created by “Jews”. But by these men https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/history/eu-pioneers_en#box_13

    Fourthly, the EU is also not being destroyed by “the Jews”.

    Last point: What are you smoking??

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  85. @G

    My reply was to Nokangaroos, what is in the protocols is what is going on with the anti Zionist today. Just replace Jews in the text with Zionist. Compare to Nkangaroos’s text below. Can you compare and contrast or add and subtract? Your posts tend to blame the Zionist for everything horrible going on in the world today. I mean see below, The Jews are responsible for the Armenian genocide? WTF? As well as your comments to me that the Jews are controlling the multiculturalism and manipulation of white guilt for their own gain, as well as control of the media
    The democratic congress has Muslims screaming at the top of their lungs at Zionism. I guess the Zionist control can’t stop them, as well as the Jew hatred on this site.

    he Protocols of the Elders of Zion is an anti-Semitic pamphlet published in Russia at the end of the 19th century. It purports to be the minutes of meetings held secretly by Jewish wise men plotting to control the world. Exposed many times as a forgery, the Protocols has nevertheless continued to be translated, published, and distributed all over the world, from the United States to Japan, from the Arab world to Latin America. Its legacy is alive and well today in the charter for Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, as well as among Holocaust deniers, and conspiracy theorists.

    In fact things are a lot worse than that.

    Over the course of the 20th century Jews have massacred roughly 1 million p/a, not counting wars on their behalf (quite a feat for a people of 15 million) , starting with the Armenians.
    Enver, Talaat, Djemal and Mehmed Javid Bej (as well as their backers and financiers) were not “Turks” but dönme (roughly:”renegades”, crypto-jews) who got at the Armenians because they were
    a) Christians,
    b) economic competition, and
    c) colluded with Russia
    (so much for Fran´s “non-jewish” neocons)
    It took Mustafa Kemal (“Atatürk”), an actual Turkish nationalist educated at a dönme academy (because his father wanted “the modern education”), to take the country back.
    Franz Werfel (“Die vierzig Tage des Musa Dagh”) knew that of course, but you need the background to understand his dog whistles.

    Much the same with the Ukrainian genocide – which makes the current situation there all the harder to understand; the ghosts of Bandera and Sconprynka must be screaming and jumping up and down at what their scions (“Azow Bn.” etc.) are doing (good example of the “Zionist Right”).

  86. @Fran Taubman

    Ah, and to think I just got shredded on another thread here [Lance Welton] for DEFENDING Jewish contribution to civilisation 😀
    (I did read the Protocols BTW)

    – You have noticed that the “left vs. right” paradigm does not adequately explain observation.
    Good.
    Moderate application of Occam´s Razor shows a “semites vs. humanity” model gives a better fit (though not perfect by any stretch).

    Allow me to elaborate.
    – As recently as 1848 (Yes, Virginia, there was a time before the hollowcause) my tribe and yours fought side by side. I still incompletely understand what happened then, but whatever it was was done by 1926; by which time only a few connoisseurs had ever heard of the Great One.
    – The first version of “Gesetz zum Schutze des deutschen Volkes und der deutschen Ehre” (vulgo Nuremberg Race Laws) was enacted for the express purpose of removing COMMUNIST influence from areas “of public interest” (media, academia and public service), and the follow-up reports were ecstatic.
    (IOW Saint Joseph of Wisconsin was onto something ;b)
    – The Wehrmacht still boasted two field marshals, 15 generals, at least 22 bearers of the Oak Leaves and 175,000 men who were technically Jews; and not no-names, but the likes of Adm. Rogge (OC of Kiel at war´s end) and Gen. Heinrici (OC of Berlin at war´s end).
    – Really downhill it has gone since around 1960.

    THIS is what I mean when I say Theodor Herzl has failed.
    You have been hijacked by psychopaths, in the clinical sense.
    Capitalism, bolshevism and “Zionism” are One now.

    Good enough? 😉

  87. The first version of “Gesetz zum Schutze des deutschen Volkes und der deutschen Ehre” (vulgo Nuremberg Race Laws) was enacted for the express purpose of removing COMMUNIST influence from areas “of public interest” (media, academia and public service), and the follow-up reports were ecstatic.

    Ah I don’t think so. Mien Kempf
    I find your writing a little over my head, but I will agree the whole thing is a mish mash.
    I think a lot of what has happened to Zionism and Israel, is not in a vacuum. Their has been a rabid push from Jihadist Muslims to replace hitler and they subsequently and irrational started an inexplicable Jihad against the Jews.
    It took a long time for Israel and the Jews to figure it out, they thought it was about a Palestinian state, those silly naive Jews, and they kept scratching their heads to make good, and like everybody would be happy, and then BOOM!! After the evacuation of Gaza and the emergence of Hama, it dawned on them that they had been rope a doped. The Arab muslim Jihadist could give a rats ass about the Palestinians, or land.
    So you can imagine their horror when they realized their was another extermination thing going on. They want to wipe the Jews out.
    Sayed Nasrallah I am paraphrasing:

    We hope all the Jews gather in Israel so when we destroy them here, it will save us the time of searching them out.

    What has unleashed is a totally unhinged Islamic world bent on the Jews and Israel going down.
    We can go tit for tat on how this happened, but right now you have an Israeli population facing another Nazi boogey man, and yep they will fight to the death. They are all in on defeating and expelling the Arab population via reparations and population transfers to Jordan, a lot of the Suni world is behind it with the rise of the Shia (the Suni Natzi),
    Herzl is dead so is the left, what you have left is the right, the far right, and the Nazi right like fight fire with fire, these guys are ready to do their own beheadings.
    No going back, Israel has never been stronger and they are done absolutely done with the Muslim attempt to delegitimize Israel. All hands on deck, bankers, financiers. etc.

    Scary times to say the least. I predict a horrible horrible war, where Israel will be vanquished, or their enemies will.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  88. peterAUS says:

    Deplorables in West:

    Understandable and reasonable frustration.
    No vision.
    Definitely no plan.

    Says something about that group.

    Nothing good will come out of it. For lower 70% of society, that is.
    Whites among them in particular.

  89. @Fran Taubman

    I see …
    you sit in eretz yisrael and have been assigned a “self-hating Jew” website for a school project.

    … it is hard to even put into words how ALIEN you are;
    I´m the personification of default: White, male, hetero, able-bodied, intact genitals, German-speaking – basically the Big Bad Nazi your nanny used to shut you up; I could not think of myself “as a” (as in “identity politics”) except when prodded; while YOU cannot think of yourself any other way.
    Pardon if I say that: ALL identity politics is psychopathy (with the qualifier the White one is indeed just reactionary) Very few peoples are so extreme they have a single word for “not us” other than gypsies and Jews.
    Persecution complex and knee-jerk social cohesion were useful (adaptive) during the diaspora but they are counterproductive now (blacks show the same pattern of reflexively protecting evildoers as long as they are Unsere Lajt ™); the advantage over a high-trust society is only up to a point (when trust is lost). We are at that point.
    Problem is your religion, upbringing and (admittedly difficult) situation reinforce such behaviour.
    If you don´t snap out of it, a high-trust society upholding ethical universalism will perceive you as sick and dangerous.

    – But enough moralizing 😀
    Your views on the Shia´t Ali are funny – they are the antimonarchist, rule-of-law Persian uprising against Arab barbarism; it´s easy to relate to them – especially the Alewites.

    I see the war too – and am not amused; just don´t forget that without US guns and money extorted from Germany Israel vanishes into thin air – and both are getting tenuous.
    Oh, and stop waving the Samson option.

  90. Noman says:

    The UK has been ruled by Jews since way back when it was just Britain.
    Who owns the Bank of England?
    What is the religious background of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha?
    There is book “When Scotland was Jewish” that was written by two Jewish authors. The title is misdirection, since Scotland is still Jewish.
    This article is misdirection as well.
    The “Hidden Hand” is circumcised.

  91. @nokangaroos

    You sound very attractive maybe we can meet someday. Not a chance as a student. I am an artist here in NY. I cannot believe Gilad and his articles, I hang around mostly out sheer incredulous that something like this could be instigated by a Jew. I am also a classic Zionist, 66 family of survivors. So I need to speak out.
    I have heard that the hammer is about to drop on us biological Jews, who dare to separate, we will see. It will be fore sure interesting.
    All I can say is that in my heart of hearts, I believe in the long arc of morality and that we are inherently moral, and regardless of depictions as alien, what is aligned against us, is truly evil.
    That is just the way I see it.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  92. @Fran Taubman

    You have not understood one word I said about psychopathy, right?
    You actually believe “the lives of ten thousand goyim are worth less than a jew´s toenail”.
    Our maff is different.
    Millions of lives could be saved simply by nuking Tel Aviv – the only question was whether some of the talent was worth salvaging.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  93. @nokangaroos

    Well you should go for that Nuke option, I doubt anyone in Tel Aviv is worth saving.
    Weren’t you the one saying don’t give m the Samson option.

    Mentioning psychopathy, how about just pyscho. I never said this, nor do I believe it. Yep you are pretty nuts. Saying something no one believes in and saying that Nuking a major city will solve the problem.

    You actually believe “the lives of ten thousand goyim are worth less than a jew´s toenail”.
    Our maff is different.

  94. Turul says:
    @David

    ‘The idea that borders to maintain the national character is an idea we cribbed from Jews.’ Poppycock: Western nations always had identity; identity is inherent in nationhood. Jews are trying to emulate it. But they lead the charge to cram hostile foreign cultures into European nations to erode the consciousness of nationality. The international lamestream media force-feeds Europeans on fake ‘internationalisms’. The worst so far has been Jewish communism. Enforced ‘diversification’, which means the emptying of the Third World underculture into Europe, might well prove to be even worse.

  95. @nokangaroos

    ‘…Oh, and stop waving the Samson option.’

    Indeed. In the end no nation has ever chosen extinction over surrender — not even Japan in 1945.

    Least of all will it be Israel. An incredible 40% of Israeli Jews state they wish they could leave as it is. Ruin Israel’s economy, and they will. Once the exodus starts, it’ll be a race for the door. No Israeli Jew is going to want to stick around once their country ceases to have a Jewish majority.

    All that has to be done is that the rest of us need to pull the plug. Israel will die with a whimper, not a bang.

    After all, look where Fran lives. It’s not Israel. Jews don’t want to actually be in Israel themselves.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  96. @Colin Wright

    ‘ …An incredible 40% of Israeli Jews state they wish they could leave as it is…’

    It’s amusing to put that figure into perspective. A recent Gallup poll found just over a third of Libyans wish they could leave their country.

  97. That´s the purpose of these discussions – to hone our ideas; “peer review”, if you will.
    (and I´m on hostile ground here too – to avoid the bubble)
    If non-Talmudic math makes me “nuts”, so be it.
    (though that the irony there once was a “German Math” did not even occur to you
    is telling ;b)

    – I did not choose the “black” simile for nothing; as long as they reflexively lionize and saint the vilest of their thugs because “black lives matter” instead of ostracizing them, they force us to treat them ALL as thugs. It´s an arrangement that profits no one – EXCEPT the thugs.

    – And so it is with the Jew.
    Take Bernie Madoff (please!). Had he just fleeced the goyim, no one would have batted an eye.
    Instead he took it upon himself to fleece OTHER JEWS who in turn believed THEY were fleecing the goyim.
    (a rather exquisite application of what the army calls “third level” psychology IMHO)
    See where I´m getting at? Automatically rallying around Jewish criminals JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS and screaming “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!!!”
    (the history of the ADL is a textbook example) is counterproductive.
    You have overplayed the victim card – credit´s up.

  98. Turul says:

    Gilad’s analysis is brilliant. But it is not spot on. I rather think that he does not know the Anglo-Saxon national personality. It is not declamatory, nor readily inflammable. Remember Kipling’s When the Saxon Begins to Hate? When something begins to get up his nose, or to piss him off, he will slap it down. The British media (wholly Jewish owned and controlled) have certainly pissed him off. It is its constant ‘antisemite’ screeching that did it. Likewise British politicians who ‘make it’ because they beat their Zionist breasts. (And only they make it!)

    He is an unhysterical, tolerant chap, our Anglo-Saxon. But now he is frowning darkly: Friends of Israel everywhere, and Jewish bigmouths. He cannot even make his sane voice heard. And they are jailing his kind when Jews hate what they say.

    Enough! He has clenched his fist. Out goes even the iconic Tory Party. Only his kind will run the show now, in his language, with his values. He looks about him. Right. As he thought. The millions are with him. The alien screeching is fading, fading …

  99. @Turul

    Nice piece of creative fantasy writing. Wishing it were true but doubting that the people will do anything but vote for controlled opposition like Nige “Open-Borders-Too” Charade the City boy.

    Nige is on the side of, as Mosley put it “The Money Power” and not the people.

    Those who fail to see that will rue the day they trusted him.

    • Replies: @Turul
  100. @Turul

    I do not agree but this post is brilliant, the best thing I have read on here in a long time.

    I am not attempting to argue, but it would seem that there is a lot of negative Jewish, Zionist, Israeli press around. It is pretty much all I see it is overwhelming.

    Your claim is a slippery slope, for instance the NY times was founded by the Jews but they have all married out and no longer identify with being Jewish, this is true of a lot of Jewish owned subsidiaries. The NY times is really anti Israel. My point being that while the Jews cut a large swath for their size, they do not have universal control of the media, and they do not speak with one voice.
    Plenty of anti zionist Jews.

    • Replies: @Turul
  101. Miro23 says:
    @Turul

    Enough! He has clenched his fist. Out goes even the iconic Tory Party. Only his kind will run the show now, in his language, with his values. He looks about him. Right. As he thought. The millions are with him. The alien screeching is fading, fading …

    For a failure like this to happen to the Tory Party is something new. Much of the British population unthinkingly vote Conservative and it’s their self-definition.

    It’s a generalized loss of trust (also with the Labour Party). Tony Blair hid behind the public’s trust when he lied the UK (WMD) into the Iraq war , and the BBC uses their trusted name to spin lies about 9/11, Syrian gassing, Russian hacking, etc.

    Same with the US media. The Washington Post ( masthead – “Democracy Dies in the Darkness”) pursues its Jewish activism behind a wall of Gentile trust.

    If the Western public have power removed from them by lying minority elites, then they’ll take it back through alternative parties/politicians, or finally abandon democracy altogether. A representative dictatorship is better than a corrupt unrepresentative “democracy”.

    • Replies: @Turul
  102. Turul says:
    @Maple Curtain

    You are right about Nige, Maple Curtain. But the movement he began will overtake him.

    • Replies: @Maple Curtain
  103. Turul says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Only vested interests like yours see the NT Times as you do, Fran Taubman. For the rest of us it is a virulent Jewish/Zionist mouthpiece.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  104. @Turul

    Not because they are Jewish, they have many anti zionist op-ed pieces. Do not know what you are reading. All I am saying is that the media and the world does not revolve a round a central Jewish cabal or point of few.
    In the US the most Zionist position is from the WSJ, which is not Jewish at all.
    Anglo-Saxon, or French nationalist are not favored by the liberal elite, who maybe Jewish but are more anti-Zionist then almost anyone (the Jewish liberal elite). Hard core Zionist are aligned with the right and ultra right which are pro nationalist anti EU.
    Zionism is nationalism, which is why you see Israel snuggling up to those Eastern European countries.
    So much of this stuff is propaganda, Gilad being a master at putting the Jews as the scape goat for all these European political problems.
    Ironic the Jews left Europe to get away from being the Christian scape goat for killing Jesus.
    They re settle in the ME, and the are still the focus of European politics.
    There is no rational to all this. None.

  105. Turul says:
    @Miro23

    Thank you, Miro23, for a very gratifying read. Of course, I agree with you in every detail. Let us hope we have it right.

  106. @Turul

    That’s hope I can get behind.

  107. jewish-arabs an oxymoron?

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  108. @riff of raff

    No all Mizrahi Jews, Jews from Arab lands living there since Temple times, are considered Arab Jews.
    People mistakenly think Israel/Palestine was colonized by diaspora Jews from Europe.
    Fact is 70% of Israelis are Arab Jews.

  109. @Roderick

    Just one moment,we want to be free of the EUSSR and free of Israel too and we don’t have any Imperial ambitions getting rid of these intruders will stop that, they are the ones causing all the trouble. And we have no ambitions for War mongering by joining the European Defence force the Witch Treason May has signed us up to even if we get Brexit we can’t get away. And we don’t want to fight in as we have in Libya, Iraq, trained terrorists in Syria or send warships to Odessa for Greater Israel’s ambitions either.
    And if Scotland ,Ireland and Wales then this pissant says they can go and it wont be a moment too soon, then they can shut up and stop whining about us anyway, they will always whine. And all the Gimmegrants funneled in by the likes of Soros can go home too.

  110. native jo says:

    No it’s not. It’s about the EU passing laws and costing a shit ton of money from citizens so they can pay for the takeover of Islam

  111. Rubicon says:

    As One Tribe observes…….’“divide and conquer”, by creating further and further divisions, so no one group can challenge the [redacted]-supremacy.’”

    That IS the nuts & bolts of this massive PROPAGANDA sweep.
    The same behaviors are seen in the US everyday, mainly perpetrated by the Democrat Party.

    Isn’t it curious that this PR has been purposely infiltrated into the once Anglo nations who JUST happen to be the homes of CAPITALISM.

    The purpose of “Divide & Conquer” is a must for all the Super Wealthy Elite. After all some of them have studied history. As the US Empire & its affiliate, the UK is now deteriorating, they don’t want to see armed and enraged commoners go after them with pitchforks. Yet these Elitists all deserve nothing less than the guillotine.

  112. Debdah says:

    Excellent article – calls a spade-a-spade. It is true that many Jews do not support Zionism and they have tried to thwart the Zionist agenda, nonetheless, their issue is mutual with the non-Jews of those nations non-Zionist Jews reside in. Therefore, their efforts need to be perceived in terms of a common human response to crime & criminals.

    The problem as usual begins with the laguage/words we often unquestioningly accept, as defining the issue we’re addressing i.e. ‘Jew’ equates to an individual who follows a particular faith in the tradition of honouring God and the rights & laws God gave to humanity. The word ‘Zionist’ equates to an individual devoted to compassionate & righteous living, in accordance with the Rastafarian faith which in turn, embraces the concept of Zion as a ‘feminine’ intelligence.

    The people controlling Palestine and the lands they’ve renamed ‘Israel’, are NOT ‘Zionists’, they are Supreme-Supremacists/The SS who have usurped Judaism and gained power over Jews via what is essentially, a protection racket…

    Their power is derived mostly from confusion while they play with humanity like pieces in a game of chess because they believe they are ‘gods’ so they can live like devils. Fortunately, Jah Universal Golden Light Intelligence is here to the rescue: There is more to life in this universe, than the alleged ‘Zionists’ would ever yet dare to know and soon they will be forced to know because there is NO hiding place from the Law-0f-Light creation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5u-tj-2rs – it’s why Jesus asked us to repent and to forgive – we need to end these battles and save our planet. Amnesty is key.

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