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Three weeks ago the Zionist ADL produced a “short list of social media accounts that should have been removed long ago.” Catholic scholar E Michael Jones, myself amongst other academics and intellectuals were shortlisted by the Zionist book burning apparatus. Three days ago I was interviewed by E Michael Jones. We agreed on many things, we disagreed on others. We touched upon many ‘hot topics’ such as: Identitarian politics, White Nationalism, Logos, Athens vs. Jerusalem, Jewish wisdom and others. I do believe that a society that cannot handle such a well mannered dialogue between scholarly oriented thinkers is doomed!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Bfsfl4AJ4V9N/

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(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Kali says:

    I’m going to ask my friend up the mountain to diwnload this for me.

    The internet here is pants and our monthly mobile data allowance is miniscule, so streaming isn’t an option. But I REALLY want to watch this! – Especially after our brief exchange re Athens v. Jerusalem the other day.
    Looking forward to watching in the next few days.

    Many thanks!

    Kali.

  2. Fully agree.

    • Disagree: Gilad Atzmon
    • Replies: @Wade
  3. A talking-heads video, without subtitles or closed captions is useless to persons with impaired hearing. Content thereof is lost to us.

  4. I’d like to see a printed (perhaps edited for length) transcript of this in Culture Wars. Some people learn more from reading than listening.

    • Agree: Kali
  5. We must stop racist Trump–or the oceans will engulf us all!

  6. Dumbo says:

    I also prefer a written text / transcription than to watch a video. It’s just faster and you can skip the boring parts.

    P.S. One thing that is rarely discussed is the current primacy of video over written text nowadays and its effects on the brain. Most young people today prefer to watch some Youtuber ranting than read any text, while for me video seems a less efficient medium to transmit ideas (although perhaps it works better emotionally. Maybe that’s why so many popular Youtubers tend to scream and curse all the time.)

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @BlackFlag
  7. BlackFlag says:
    @Dumbo

    Humans have been watching and listening to each other speak a lot longer than they have been reading. And there are subtle visual/audio cues containing information not available in text (eg. is the speaker lying). Most people probably absorb content better that way.

    The need/highbrow dismissal of video and audio is dumb. Maybe they have already adapted to text. It at least makes content available to different neurotypes.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Kim
    , @Dube
  8. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    Catholics need, even crave a Peron of intelligence who understands the ordinary Catholic, but Jones ain’t it. I’ve learned a lot from MEN but he’s too scripted, too dogmatic, too prone to pounding all problems into the meta-narrative he’s devised.

    IMO Bruce Springsteen is just as deep but more in touch with real, not exotic issues; is far more creative, energetic & energizing, and, same age as ELK but in much better shape.

    IMO Atzmon is a pretentious hack,, not so different from Bernard Henri Levi. His cogitations are sham-wisdom.
    AND based on the sample at beginning of this bidel, as a saxophonist he’s a fakir.
    Late, Lamented Jake Clemons — that’s real saxophone talent.

    youtube.com/watch?v=krWJu5bKTXs

    @ 3.45

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @bjondo
  9. Gilad,

    You look like you were davening in the video with Jones. Sorry but you were a Jew in motion to his goyish stillness. When he started talking about Logos and the revolutionary Jews how come you didn’t hit him with the Trinity? The beginning and end of the Jews for Jesus story. Jesus never claimed to be the son of god or a demi god. It was not until the Romans got a hold of the story that it turned into the god has children and the son the father and the holy ghost.

    The Jews certainly did rebel (the revolutionaries ) against the Roman acquisition of the Messiah to match their existing god structure like Zeus and Apollo. And probably the Talmud did veer off to write a cautionary tale about staying away from those clowns, unlike temple times, when life was simple. Instead of just saying you don’t believe you could have argued a little against the tyranny of Catholicism.

    The Jewish story from soup to nuts is the one and only divine that can never be human or corporeal or exist in space and time. An you have these Romans talking about the virgin birth and Trinity. These ideas were not contemporaneous during Jesus’s prophecy and life. I am glad the Talmud landed hard on the clay statue figures of Jesus nailed to the cross that are knelt before when praying in churches, and called them for what they were fake idol worship.

    Jones usury rant also a bit dim. The Jews fulfilled the needs of the aristocracy who needed a middle man to handle the money it was their needs the Jews filled. We didn’t invent their handling of money fears.

    We cannot be possible be both capitalist and communist, without unknown forces other then the Jews at play. It is just the way the physical world works. Forces do not exist without an opposing force. There is no dominant force ruling the physical world. gravity magnetism, even black holes have both light and the absence of light. I just see it so differently.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @Hibernian
  10. Dumbo says:
    @BlackFlag

    To each his own. I don’t dismiss video. I like it for fiction, documentaries, and when the image is important. Some speeches or interviews of some people can be interesting too. At times you want to see the person talking. But in general I personally don’t have time/patience to watch 1 hour of video of people talking, when I can read the interesting parts of it in a transcript in 15 minutes. Even though I like Mr. Jones, I don’t think I will watch this full interview, I’m sorry.

  11. @Fran Taubman

    Don’t you ever take a day off,yenta?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  12. As a Christian I respect your theology, except that I don’t see how Christians are worshipping statues of Jesus. The statue is analogous to a picture of your father. When you look at it lovingly, is it the photograph you love, or the father? I say it’s the father.

    Secondly, doesn’t G-d appear in corporeal form in the Torah e.g. the burning bush episode? There are other stories too, I think.

    Philosophically, your view that G-d must be outside of space and time seems correct, but can’t such a god manifest himself within space and time in order to help humans understand him?

    I agree with you about usury and other beefs against the Jews being mostly unfair, since they were just trying to find a modus vivendi with the Christian powers that surrounded them.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  13. Dumbo says:

    Jones usury rant also a bit dim. The Jews fulfilled the needs of the aristocracy who needed a middle man to handle the money it was their needs the Jews filled. We didn’t invent their handling of money fears

    I agree with you about usury and other beefs against the Jews being mostly unfair, since they were just trying to find a modus vivendi with the Christian powers that surrounded them

    Poor Jews, “forced” to do usury… Come on. Let’s get real. Jews and moneylending go together like Muslims and beheading, like Africans and “where da white wimmin at”.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  14. @Dumbo

    I know why your call name is Dumbo. Jews were very restricted during the Middle ages, forbidden to own land and farm, forbidden in many artisan guilds, and other labor jobs. Moneylending was what they were invited into specific countries. The sole reason they were invited to countries, they were told where to live and what they could work at. They became good at it. Practice makes perfect.

    It is a no brainer except for a racist to understand what happened with Jews and Christians during the early centuries after the fall of Jerusalem.

    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Dumbo
  15. greek philosophy is blind without the revelation from Jerusalem.

    I Cor. 1

    19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

    20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

    21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

    22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

    23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

    24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

    25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

  16. Hibernian says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran, the conversion of Constantine was almost a full three centuries after Jesus’ time.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  17. @Hibernian

    And your point? I never gave a timeline. Before Rome adopted Christianity followers of Christ were Jews and identified as Jews, following Jewish laws. After Rome strict restrictions as laid out in the Talmud for dealing with Christians as the “other” to avoid conversation. Thus the hatred started, as Christians had to convert all Jews no matter what. The trinity and Jesus as demi god was a big red line. No Jews would ever convert as written in the laws, it was against the god is one.
    If it wasn’t for the Catholic Church there would have been no Jew hatred it all started there. The muslims have just picked up the music sheet. Blood libel and all.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  18. @jack daniels

    As a Christian I respect your theology, except that I don’t see how Christians are worshipping statues of Jesus. The statue is analogous to a picture of your father. When you look at it lovingly, is it the photograph you love, or the father? I say it’s the father.

    I understand your context of the loving father photograph, but once you call relate to a photograph as a father or god but once you remove the abstract concept of a divine being not bound by physical dimensions, you are on a slippery slope.

    Look at the celibate Priest and nuns that are married to Christ and wear wedding rings.
    You see where I am going?

  19. @Fran Taubman

    ‘I know why your call name is Dumbo. Jews were very restricted during the Middle ages, forbidden to own land and farm, forbidden in many artisan guilds, and other labor jobs. Moneylending was what they were invited into specific countries. The sole reason they were invited to countries, they were told where to live and what they could work at. They became good at it. Practice makes perfect.’

    You’ve been told this. You might want to look into to what extent it’s actually true.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  20. @Fran Taubman

    ‘… but once you remove the abstract concept of a divine being not bound by physical dimensions, you are on a slippery slope…’

    Please. It is Judaism that insists man is made in God’s image.

    You want your abstract, unbounded concept, become a Muslim.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  21. @Colin Wright

    Islam is Judaism for the masses, that is what Maimonides said. Without Judaism Mohamed would have written comic books.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @bjondo
  22. @Colin Wright

    Why were you a banker back in the middle ages? I guess you know huh. So certain of the facts.
    Read the Warburgs by Ron Chernow. Big book maybe you can get thru it. Takes the banking family from like 1200 AD to the war. Explains the entire rise and fall of the Jews in Germany.
    But mostly it explains the Jews and money story.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  23. Dumbo says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I think it’s exactly the opposite. They were already good at moneylending and other similar occupations (commerce, etc) and that’s why they ended up working in this profitable occupation.

    The idea that the Jews would otherwise be plowing the fields is laughable.

    The following is from a JEWISH site:

    As noted elsewhere, fanciful theories have been advanced as fact with regard to Jews either having been “forced,” or voluntarily choosing to abandon landholding, and with no alternative choosing moneylending as a livelihood. Not one scrap of evidence has ever been produced to support such theories, and in fact there is no evidence. Undoubtedly the above statement by authoritative rabbis are correct: the ever increasing tax burdens, on the one hand, and the relatively large profits to be made with virtually no risk, on the other, encouraged Jews to engage in moneylending on ever larger scales.

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-moneylending/

    I am not necessarily anti-semitic (don’t hate “all Jews”), but I would like Jews more if they did not engage so much in lying about their own history and trying to take us “goys” for fools, when they know very well that things are not exactly as they say. And in fact they are more honest in their own sites for internal consumption.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  24. Hibernian says:
    @Fran Taubman

    So is Christianity, but I think it’s a better one.

  25. Hibernian says:
    @Dumbo

    Catholics (beyond the pale), Dissenters (required to register and subject to restrictions) and Quakers (who refused to register as dissenters), in the UK and Ireland (then separately ruled by the same Monarch), in the 17th and 18th centuries, became merchants at least in part because of restrictions on University attendance required for entry into professions, and, in the case of Catholics, on land ownership. Some merchants subsequently became bankers. The theory of “being forced into it” is not implausible; it was true for other groups at a later time. The source you quote seems to state that high taxes rather than outright prohibitions were the factors that steered Jews into commerce including moneylending.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  26. Hibernian says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The shift from a sect within Judaism to Christianity as a separate religion preceded Constantine’s conversion. It’s a theme of the Epistles of Saul/Paul, who was Hellenistic and a Roman citizen.

  27. @Fran Taubman

    Look at the celibate Priest and nuns that are married to Christ and wear wedding rings.
    You see where I am going?

    No.
    Explain.

    Include in your explanation Jews who wear tzitzit, phylacteries. We bought a house from a Jewish family that had a mezuzah at the front door.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  28. Dumbo says:
    @Hibernian

    They were limited in their options, doesn’t mean that they were “forced” to become moneylenders, which is really laughable if you think about it. It was a profitable activity and Jews already worked in similar occupations and were (as they still are) “good with money” (and performed a useful service to the then elites). If the intention was to punish them, then Jews should have been *prohibited* to become moneylenders, and forced to work in the fields or in some form of manual labour.

    Of course, there was also the whole issue of the prohibition of usury by the Catholic Church, but I won’t go into this now.

  29. @Fran Taubman

    Study Beginnings of Judaism, by Isaiah Gafni of Hebrew University.

    Babylonian captivity was the best thing that happened to Jews (but perhaps the worst thing that happened to RoW): before exposure to Persian culture — back when Habiru meant wandering gangs of thieves — Jewish cultcha amounted to putting a couple rocks atop one another and copying the myths of neighboring groups.

    Yehud learned banking and merchant practices from Persians and joined in the prosperity sustained by Persian institutions.

    Jews from the entire region, including Jerusalem, would take their disputes and questions to the wealthiest Jewish (Yehud) merchants in Babylon. They were not spiritual men, they decided questions on a commercial basis. It was expected that the disputants would make payment to the wealthy Jews deciding the question.

    The resolutions became part of the compilation of Babylonian talmud.

    Jews learned from/piggyy-backed on efforts of the Persians who developed trade routes, caravansaries, and modalities of finance and commerce with Chinese, Africans, Italians (Silk Road ring a bell?) aeons before Warburgs similarly piggy-backed on the organizational genius and discipline of the German people.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  30. Impressive!
    Thank You-2, Gilad & Mr. Jones.
    This why I frequent Ron’s site.
    Please continue your discussions. It’s most definitely needed nowadays.
    Hhmm.
    Even though these 2 Gentlemen have different approaches to the subjects, it’s great to hear they arrive to a similar/same destination.
    X-

    • Replies: @anonymous
  31. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Veritas X-

    Agreed, E Michael Jones and Gilad Atzmon engage in stimulating discussion. Their philosophies differ but they “arrive at similar destinations.”

    But theirs is not merely the “road less traveled,” it is a road totally alien to the masses. They might as well be talking about the qualities of rocks on Jupiter.

    At a neighborhood gathering the other day two women, one in her 30s, the other in her 70s, both college graduates, one a retired school teacher the other a marketing professional.
    Both expressed a near-frantic response to the recent news that synthetic fiber lint that is deposited in laundering finds its way into the ecosystem.
    “What to do?” they questioned with profound seriousness.
    “Cotton is not a solution: it takes so much labor to produce it.” Likewise linen — and besides, linen wrinkles so much, you never look smart.
    Fortunately, they arrived at a temporary fix: “I buy only at resale shops, and sell or donate my clothes there also.”

    Whew.
    Catastrophe averted.

    Now, about those Syrians that are being bombed out of their homes, reduced to refugees and flooded into Europe; and the Iranians who are being starved ’til they topple their government; and the Palestinians whose homes are bulldozed . . .

    Oh — did I mention — stick to Upscale Resale. Too much junk at Goodwill.

  32. @SolontoCroesus

    Those comparisons seem like apples and oranges to me. Orders of Priest to be celibate and nuns married to a demi god does not compare to rituals that include wearing fringes and phylacteries and mezuzahs on the doors, which are rituals designed to communicate with the divine.

  33. @SolontoCroesus

    You have an odd take on things, one that enslaves you to a National Socialist ideology that you find ideal and that was ruined by the Jews.
    How to dialogue with someone who thinks like that? We always end up at the same place.

    There are many criss crossing facts that one can cherry pick. One thing for sure Medieval Europe was run by Aristocracy that believed that they were anointed by god. It was a feudal system a corrupt feudal system with church and aristocracy holding huge swaths of land and letting peasants manage them, for food and shelter. No ownership.

    The Jews arrived as foreigners in this eco system. They were used by the rulers like the peasants.
    They could not lead a normal life of choice and live and work where they wanted, and yet they were educated unlike the peasants who could not read or write. In a way they started the middle class. Look at the Pale settlement.

    Poland was the only country during those times to grant the Jews tremendous freedoms.
    Jews in the middle ages had names like David ben Yehuda. The Rothchilds name was the street their street name.

    The Jews imprinted on an existing system, they did control. They managed as best they could.
    But it was not their choice, and the aristocracy hated them for their brains and the fact that they were not Christian. The church hated them because they killed Christ.
    You know forces were at play.

    But talking with you is boring as all roads lead to Germans good Jews bad.

  34. bjondo says:
    @Anon

    Fall off the merry-go-round
    in Telaviv?

  35. bjondo says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Without Judaizm…

    Without Satan, without his spawn,
    without his evil,
    God would not have
    sent Jesus(P), nor spoke to Mohammad(P).

    Life still rough, tough, cruel, but
    pure evil not here.

    5ds

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  36. @Fran Taubman

    hmm

    I’d composed a lengthy reply to your several points, then noticed your last comment —

    But talking with you is boring as all roads lead to Germans good Jews bad.

    Heaven forfend that I should continue to bore you.

    I erased my reply, but this point must be made:
    You wrote:

    “It was a feudal system a corrupt feudal system with church and aristocracy holding huge swaths of land and letting peasants manage them, for food and shelter. No ownership.
    The Jews arrived as foreigners in this eco system. They were used by the rulers like the peasants.”

    The outrage!
    Immigrants, “Jews who arrived as foreigners in this eco system” treated like peasants!!
    Why should outsiders, interlopers, most often economic opportunists eager to reap fields they did not sow, profit from institutions they did not struggle to build, be treated better than the natives?

    My people were peasants. Difference between me/mine and you/yours is we didn’t have a sense of entitlement, didn’t think our asses weighed a ton. WE did the work to build the streets, universities, towns that you Jews seem to think you deserve to run — because you are so much smarter than the people that built the universities that you subvert!! O the logic, it fails translation to Hebrew.

    Enough.

    Since you asked, yes, Germans, as well as my own Italian forebears, are superior to Jews in every way.

    imo what Jews did to Germans, and what Jews continue to do to oppress, starve, even kill Palestinians and Iranians can never be forgiven.

    Own your behavior.

    Auf wiedersehen

  37. @Fran Taubman

    Fractured fairy tales. Your incomprehension of human history is perversely awesome.

    To begin at the beginning, medieval Europe wasn’t in some sort of condition of stasis. You could no more reasonably equate tenth century Germany with fifteenth century Spain than you could equate seventeenth century Massachusetts with contemporary California.

    That alone renders your generalizations absurd. Jews didn’t ‘arrive’ in these multiple evolving societies when they were at some finished point that never existed. They were present all along, and evolved along with it. You can’t generalize at all about either the larger societies or the Jews themselves. Twelfth century Saragossa shared nil with the Ukraine in the sixteenth century — and the same goes for the Jews in the two places.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  38. @SolontoCroesus

    I could have read your mine and saved you from writing that is how predictable you are.
    but I am sure you are superior.
    It is not a competition

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  39. @Colin Wright

    When the temple fell migration begin first to Rome then to Europe. Besides your fancy words it was a pretty linear and documented country by country.
    You can google it. Do you need links.?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  40. Kim says:
    @BlackFlag

    The need/highbrow dismissal of video and audio is dumb.

    You felt a need to be abusive and succumbed to it. You might benefit from asking yourself why.

  41. @Fran Taubman

    ‘When the temple fell migration begin first to Rome then to Europe. Besides your fancy words it was a pretty linear and documented country by country…’

    Fantasy…and pathetic, thoroughly debunked fantasy, to boot.

    You might as well think the world is the back of a giant turtle. I can’t stop you from believing it, and perhaps you need to believe it, but it really is nonsense.

  42. @Colin Wright

    What happened then. I read history what do you read?
    Why do you need to dispute everything I write?
    The last thread it was what did Corbyn say that was anti-semitic. You can read about it.
    What fantasy is totally debunked?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  43. @Colin Wright

    Colin all you do is put down my comments which is easy to do. Just trash what someone else is saying
    What do you think happened? Site historical facts.
    Stop dismissing start adding.

  44. @Fran Taubman

    I could have read your mine . . .

    Fascinating Freudian slip / typo.

    What you actually responded to was not the information presented but YOUR “mine” (mind). You did not respond to any substantive thing that I wrote, you simply and characteristically responded to totally different- or no stated commentary at all, and that with attack, sarcasm, diversion.

    Ron Unz was charitable when he said you were “sincere.”
    You posted one or two comments about Jewish beliefs that I thought were informative; I thought I should pay more attention.
    It turns out that was a one-off, and anyway, I don’t much care about Jewish religious beliefs — knock yourself out, just don’t — or stop — corrupting the religious beliefs of other people.

    And inasmuch as I surely AM superior, we really have nothing left to talk about.
    So this is goodbye. 😢

    It’s not me, it’s you.

    PS re your comment to Colin — when I stated “what happened,” you ignored the information completely.
    ?????

  45. bjondo says:

    Came across these discussions while searching
    for EMJ and GA. Did not see listed
    under Gilad’s postings here.

    Bonus videos from Rabbi Y. Shapiro and Gilad Atzmon:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBuUqPndqg, part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVVJ6lP0Wqk, part 2

    Not sure what the Rabbinical Torah Jew, Shapiro,
    would say/do if he found the RED HEIFER or
    what the True Torah Jew would do to Palestine/Palestinians
    if their Messiah appeared.

    No mention of the slaughter of Christians by Jew
    at Mamilla Pool, Palestine, in 614 AD.

    Anyway, interesting.

    5ds

  46. @Fran Taubman

    ‘What happened then. I read history what do you read?
    Why do you need to dispute everything I write?
    The last thread it was what did Corbyn say that was anti-semitic. You can read about it.
    What fantasy is totally debunked?’

    That is to say, the claim has been invented out of whole cloth.

  47. @Colin Wright

    What claim? I was not claiming anything. Jews moved and they worked.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  48. @SolontoCroesus

    Solonto I had know idea that you were so sensitive. I am sorry to heart your feelings it is just very hard for me to be sensitive to someone who pines so heard for the Führer and the Reich and holds Jews responsible for the Dresden bombings. It is just a hard one.

    Immigrants, “Jews who arrived as foreigners in this eco system” treated like peasants!!
    Why should outsiders, interlopers, most often economic opportunists eager to reap fields they did not sow, profit from institutions they did not struggle to build, be treated better than the natives?

    Because the served a much needed function for the rulers to function as a go between them and the peasants. They were invitedvto serve that function.

    My people were peasants. Difference between me/mine and you/yours is we didn’t have a sense of entitlement, didn’t think our asses weighed a ton. WE did the work to build the streets, universities, towns that you Jews seem to think you deserve to run — because you are so much smarter than the people that built the universities that you subvert!! O the logic, it fails translation to Hebrew.

    That is my background also. No money men at all. Poor artist and artisans. I agree with the subversion of the Universities currently under the influence of Jew hatred by the social justice warriors under Muslim propaganda about Israel and the Jews.

    People are people you cannot blame one group for your insecurities and slights, despite how good those endorphins are released with the lust of hate for scapegoating one group.
    It is a huge problem.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  49. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Because the served a much needed function for the rulers to function as a go between them and the peasants.’

    As they did later under Stalin. Stalin needed someone to help him dispossess and enslave the peasantry. Jews helped out.

  50. @Fran Taubman

    In reply to my criticism of your remarks about Corbyn and the Labour Party, you respond:

    ‘What claim? I was not claiming anything. Jews moved and they worked.’

    ? Are we discussing your ignorant notions about Medieval Europe, or your attempt to brand the Labour Party as anti-semitic because some in it find Israel’s gross criminality impossible to support?

  51. @Colin Wright

    No nothing to do with Labour see below your claim about whole cloth? What are YOU referring to?

    That is to say, the claim has been invented out of whole cloth.

  52. Dube says:
    @BlackFlag

    The eye can make moves and select in a manner that the ear cannot. It’s not a matter of one being superior. There are page poets and performance poets. It’s nice to experience both, but the experiences are different.

  53. Anon[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “Since you asked, yes, Germans, as well as my own Italian forebears, are superior to Jews in every way.”

    😂😂 Gosh, SC. Bit harsh but true, I’d guess.

    Don’t know how many actual Jews you meet in your everyday life. I brush with a few, many nowhere near as smart as Mr. Unz. And I know –or try to– how they clique up to make money all the while saying “they’re in real estate”. Of course they are.

    Don’t take them that seriously. Don’t engage in their PC topics and take as a given the Holocaust is inflated and milked. But take your culture and religious seriously. Be aristocratically courteous. Drop a Catholic (yes, specifically) word of wisdom here and there. Drives them nuts.

    And almost Merry Christmas to you!

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