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In its war against the terror of the Corona virus, the world has united in its determination to lock down its human inhabitants, hoping that Covid-19 will show some empathy and voluntarily evaporate.

We have been trained to think that winning a war entails killing the enemy but most scientists admit that Corona isn’t exactly a new Hitler or Bin Laden. Though viruses carry genetic material: they reproduce and evolve evolutionary, they lack some key characteristics typical of life organisms such as cell structure. Most biologists consider viruses as ‘organisms at the edge of life’ as opposed to ‘live organisms.’ Accordingly, our new little global enemy can’t be ‘killed’ for the simple reason that it isn’t alive.

It is reasonable to believe that the battle with viruses and with Covid-19 in particular, is a struggle inflicted on us and that humans cannot escape the battlefield. We may prolong the battle by locking ourselves down. We may even produce a vaccination or find a cocktail of available medicines that successfully tackle severe respiratory symptoms, but the grim fact is: Corona is not going to give up. It will continue to be waiting for us behind some corner. This is the law of nature, and as far as Corona is concerned we, despite our incredible technological achievements, are still part of nature.

Two existential realisations are crucial in light of the above: 1. Many things, including life itself, are inflicted on us. We do not choose to be in the world, we do not choose who we are; our genes, DNA, the list of gifts and faults that make us into what we are, are in most cases imposed on us by the act of birth. We are often locked into situations that are basically forced on us. This includes being thrown into the world as well as being taken away. We may as well be upset by the fact that the sun rises in the east or by the shortening days of the winter. Being in the world is a form of acceptance or even surrender.

2. If Being in the world is a form of acceptance, we may have to accept that Covid-19 has become an integral part of our lives, we cannot kill it, we cannot win it over: we might have to accept it and learn to live with it.

The question that this raises is how to live with a persistent biological agent that insists upon killing some of us and that we cannot really fight back?

The most obvious place to look is at similar battles in the past.


The Spanish Flu pandemic that spread throughout the world in 1918 and killed between 17 to 100 million people is a natural place to start our query. The H1N1 virus that presumptively caused the Spanish flu influenza wasn’t really defeated. It wasn’t ‘killed’ so to say. It was actually we who managed to survive it, at least for a few decades till it mutated into a new strain around 2009 and was known as the Swine Flu. It is estimated that between 157.000 to 575.000 died in the 2009 Swine Flu crisis. Again, we humans learned to live with Swine Flu. Many of us experienced the menace of this vile disease, but survived. Most of us who survived the Swine Flu pandemic have developed the necessary biological means to cope with the current strain of H1N1 until further notice.

The Swine Flu pandemic spread death at a frightening exponential rate until it reached a magical point where the curve suddenly started to flatten. When the curve changes in the right direction we are relieved to discover that the biology that sustains our existence has found the means to defy the threat. We are, in short, subject to this war rather than active players.

Covid 19 may be ten times as deadly as the seasonal flu but there is little we can do to defeat it. We can use different strategies that may slow the epidemic and lessen the pressure on our front line medical services. We can shield, as we should, our elders and most vulnerable. But this virus will stay with us forever and maybe it is time for us to learn to accept that this state of affairs is the law of nature and we, despite our technology and brilliance, aren’t just part of nature, we are also subject to nature.

When we are released from our current lockdown imprisonment we will meet a very different world. It will be a hesitant universe. Our confidence in our science, politics, technology is going to be shaken. Every aspect of life is going to be changed. Many of us will continue to work from home. Many of us won’t work at all and may never work again. Public transport and civil aviation will change radically. We will have to accept that more and more violent viruses are waiting to inflict pain on us.

The only way to cope with this nightmarish transition as a human species is to accept viruses, to accept that we are each merely a piece of biology. We are thrown into the world for a limited time, we may have to have the modesty to respect the fact that this world is far greater than we are. It was there before us and it will stay long after we are gone.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
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  1. I believe that all those who want the “free market” to take care of them during this crisis go first.

  2. Millions of people who’ve vehemently opposed euthanasia may soon be reconsidering.

    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
  3. Accept viruses. Maybe you have to accept viruses. But when the viruses are illegally fabricated weapons, allied nuclear-armed P5 states with superior missile technology and defense industrial base do not.

    The US regime is gonna fry for this. The American peoples will finally be free.

  4. Truth3 says:

    Frannie should show within 24 hours.

    If she doesn’t… wellllllllll…

    • Replies: @goldgettin
  5. bjondo says:

    Ft Det 19, Ft Det 26, Ft Det 30….

    An existence-threatening virus to be brought out every few years

    to help “democracies” mutate -“Totalitarian Democracies.”

    5 dancing shlomos

  6. Patrick says:

    I survived the virus. We have so many cases here that my doctor just asked me to stay home unless I absolutely needed the hospital. This probably saved my life. If I had been at the hospital I would have had to ask permission to drink, to hydrate myself. Having to ask permission could have resulted in it taking too long for me to get water. But because I was at home, I could just drink my coconut waters and watermelon juice whenever I wanted. I took vitamin c too. My whole body was tensed into place, I couldn’t move my leg into a 90 degree angle. That lasted for three days with three days of hallucinations. But after forcing myself into the shower once or twice a day, limping. And by drinking lots of liquids, stretching, eventually after three days I could move my body normally again. I used will power to keep breathing rather than a stupid respirator.

    WHat’s killing the people with pre-existing heart conditions is the heightened blood pressure, my entire chest and stomach was permanently tense and hard. Difficulty swallowing. But really, all this adds up to is a bad case of the flu with maybe a couple new symptoms. The only thing killing people from this is being cooped up in a restrictive hospital environment where you have to ask nurse permission to meet your bodily needs. Ya washing hands or whatever, but closing down society over this? What is this? A wimp society? What a joke. This corona hysteria is the biggest global hoax perpetrated on the public ever, and these stupid people dying from this shouldn’t be running to the hospital over this when the hospital doesn’t even have any treatments except annoying patients and hooking up lazy people to respirators.

    It’s not the job of the government to protect people from this virus. I have another week in quarantine according to my doctor, and I will respect that, but for the government to shut down society is ridiculous. I don’t care if this thing is some escaped biological weapon. It’s just a virus. Virus’s are normal parts of us. If you get this thing just don’t go to the hospital and you’ll be fine. Drink lots of fluids and your body will go back to normal. Sure sore throat a couple days, phlegm, bla bla bla, its a bad case of the flu that’s all.

  7. @Truth3

    what does this mean?enlighten us please.
    must have missed the memo again.expound,
    I implore you…

  8. We are thrown into the world for a limited time, we may have to have the modesty to respect the fact that this world is far greater than we are.

    This truism, amidst others, was expressed in a humorous manner by a fpopular stand-up comedian and philosopher from Manhattan.

    George Carlin Talks about Life on the Planet Earth

    (He also alludes to viruses starting at 6:27 minutes.)

  9. @Patrick

    I am not in any position to say what is right or what is wrong as I am not qualified to produce such statements. What I do instead is attempting at analysis of the intense crap they suffocate us with. Good that you survived the virus. vast majority of ppl do. I do believe that every living commercial pilot and air crew has survived the virus years ago. Every touring musician and travelling business person falls into the same category. I believe that world’s big metropolitan misdiagnosed recent pneumonia epidemics as swine flu, we have been living with Covid 19 for a while. I also believe that herd immunity is already there to a certain extent in big metropolitans. Look at the death rate vs carriers in Israel.. we are talking about 0.003,,, how do we explain this? I believe therefore that the big danger is in some rural regions and places that are slightly less connected, the so called fly over states etc.

    • Replies: @Patrick
  10. > Covid 19 may be ten times as deadly as the seasonal flu

    Mr Atzmon, let me give you some good advice. Don’t believe *everything* you read in the mainstream media.

  11. This is a good strong dose of psychological medicine. In a time of fear and anxiety, in which some new deadly prospect comes looming over the mind, the marker of ancient vitality, amor fati, makes a return: one can live fully only in affirmation of the tragic element to life.

  12. CamFree says:

    It is true that we did not choose to be afflicted with this Corona virus, but we are certainly free to choose how we are to respond to it. And the fact that an entire civilization has accepted this global lockdown without any protests and with no opposition, only reveals just how sick and beleaguered Western civilization already was, well before anyone had even heard of Covid-19.

    • Agree: botazefa, Kratoklastes
  13. @Patrick

    So you have not heard about people who died in their homes without any medical assistance? You also haven’t heard about all the people who were sent to a hospital AND were cured and survived? The same doctor who told you to stay home told other people to go to a hospital because he thought that they needed that. By the way, you can take as much vitamin C as you want. It wont help you against corona.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    , @Patrick
  14. Truth3 says:

    Jew hoards med supplies, coughs intentionally on FBI agents when they question him.

    The agents identified themselves to Feldheim outside of his home and said he intentionally coughed, without covering his mouth, in their direction while standing four or five feet away. When the agents asked about his alleged hoarding of supplies, Feldheim claimed to have COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, and denied possessing large quantities of personal protective equipment and selling it.

    Innocent until proven guilty… right?

    Except… in the next world. He’s already known to be guilty there… of this and much more.

    The Death Penalty for all financial crimes.

    That is what is needed.

    Need 6,000,000 FBI Agents then. One for each Jew in NYC Metro region.

  15. Our confidence in our science, politics, technology is going to be shaken

    That would be wonderful if it were true, but the vast bulk of the populace are far too stupid for that to be a realistic expectation.

    The vast bulk of humanity simply believes what they’re told to believe by the man on the TV with the nice haircut (or the ‘blonde’ sitting next to him with the nice rack and bleached teeth).

    How many TV viewers do you think remember Swine Flu – the 2009 H1N1 that killed between 150,000 and 575,000 (depending on “of /with” – the epidemiological “who/whom“: nobody who died of complications of serious chronic illness was ever tested for it).


    First ‘confirmed case’: 9 March 2009 (in Mexico).

    By June of 2009, there had been 48,000 hospitalisations-with in the US and 127 officially-recorded H1N1 deaths-from. Deaths-with H1N1 were not recorded as “H1N1 deaths”: H1N1’s RBIs were ignored, whereas covid19s RBIs are being counted as home runs).

    The CDC’s epidemiological modelling at the same point in time, estimated that there were a million infected at that stage.

    On an apples-to-apples basis, H1N1 killed-from more Americans than covid19 at the same comparative point – and measured in lost quality-adjusted years of life, deaths-from H1N1 imposed vastly higher social costs than deaths-from covid19.

    If people in 2009 had been counting every nursing-home inmate who died-with H1N1, the numbers would likely have been in the tens of thousands by June 2009.

    By mid-November 2009, 20% of the population had been infected; 200,000 people had been hospitalised-with; 10,000 people had died-of, and the number who died-with is simply unknown because there was basically no testing of people dying from comorbidities.

    The then head epidemiologist at the CDC warned at the time that the officially ‘confirmed’ cases were irrelevant, because a vastly larger number of people had probably had the disease, and had simply gotten over it. Now, it’s the most important number in people’s entire TV schedule (along with deaths-with).

    The WHO investigated itself regarding whether it had contributed to an over-reaction; the media gave it a kick in the balls for a news cycle or so, and everybody went about their business.

    And what did the mouth-breathers learn? NOTHING.

    They did not become skeptical about officially-promulgated numbers.

    They did not look around themselves and see fuck-all social impact and wonder what all the fuss was about.

    They did not wake up to the fact that the infotainment and pharma sectors hyped the ‘pandemic’ to sell ads and vaccines.

    And now, the theatrics have been ramped up, and the dummies (particularly women) are lapping that shit up.

    Once it turns out that they’re wrong, the Chicken Littles won’t even be embarrassed at their gullibility: they will say “Better to be safe than sorry“… with unemployment at 20% and a 30% peak-to-trough fall in GDP as the bill for a death toll roughly equal to a moderately-bad ‘flu year.

    And if the economy faces a potline problem (where some parts of the market ‘freeze’), the damage could go on for months after restrictions are removed.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  16. “The Spanish Flu pandemic that spread throughout the world in 1918 and killed between 17 to 100 million people is a natural place to start our query. The H1N1 virus that presumptively caused the Spanish flu influenza wasn’t really defeated. It wasn’t ‘killed’ so to say.”

    Gilad, that’s just the accepted fable about the pandemic of 1918. That event has been examined scientifically and other conclusions are possible. Wasn’t the virus recently exhumed and given to a fwew volunteers, none of whom developed anything like what killed so many people in that last year of WWI? Autopsies have been reviewed as well and results point directly to bacterium which is present, and which, in many cases was seen as having caused the deadly pneumonia in the victims:

    The Fort Riley paper (Ft Riley, KS was the origin of the deadly pandemic, BTW) details an experimental vaccine regimen using soldiers as subjects:

    The accepted historical fable isn’t the only history available.

  17. @Patrick

    Last time I visited my local hospital I got pericarditis as a take-home gift.

    I’ve got a few 2-liters of Coke Zero, stuff for making lots of soup, a 10-pack of that ginseng drink that comes in little bottles with the root floating in there, etc. I should probably get some beef jerky because it’s a good comfort food for me esp. the really artificial type that comes in a cardboard can. I should get some li hing mui too if I can find some.

    But yeah, who are you around at the hospital? Lots of sick people. And fluid-limiting is a real problem; a friend of mine sailed across the Pacific on a boat where the water access was by the little pill-swallowing cups so he didn’t drink enough with the result that not long after he had a kidney stone so bad he had to be airlifted to a hospital (he was on yet another vacation) and to fix that …. they go in through your peeter.

    So yeah push fluids.

    • Replies: @Patrick
  18. @Twodees Partain

    I’ve been reading a lot (we all have I guess) and how flu kills is typically the accompanying opportunistic bacterial pneumonia.

    I had pneumonia last flu season, kept feeling more and more run-down, and thousands of dollars later I had a $30 prescription for $3 pills that I took and I was fixed up in a week.

    A barefoot doctor in sub-Saharan Africa would have listened to my chest, prescribed the pills, I’d have paid him/her 20USD and a bottle of white lightning, paid a $5 spot for the pills, relaxed in my hut for a week and been fine and no financial hell. (Being in the US, I had to keep working while I got better.)

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  19. Humanity is in Overshoot. It’s not just 7 billion apes of course, it’s our 80 billion fossil-powered slaves as well.

    In just pure terrestrial mammalian biomass, we humans, our livestock and pets are 97% of the weight, and still rising. All other wild animals just 3%, and still falling.

    That’s an extreme ecological imbalance that Nature has a million clever ways to rebalance. Welcome to the age of pestilence and degrowth. Nature will inevitably flatten the curve of human hubris.

    • Agree: John Achterhof
    • Disagree: Wantoknow
  20. @Pat Kittle

    Millions of people who’ve vehemently opposed euthanasia may soon be reconsidering.

    I think younger people, impoverished by such draconian measures as we’ve seen, mainly to save older populations, may come to blame the elderly and the vulnerable. I fear you are right. We may be on a fast track to Logan’s Run.

    Meanwhile, excess deaths in Europe remain stubbornly non existent (official data from Euromomo).

  21. @Twodees Partain

    This scientific paper, published in the peer reviewed journal “Vaccine” in January of this year, lends credence to your suspicions. It suggests that those given the flu vaccine may become sensitised, more susceptible to other respiratory infections, including coronaviruses.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  22. @Uncommonground

    By the way, you can take as much vitamin C as you want. It wont help you against corona.

    Of course it helps. If you take it intravenously it cures covid.

    • Replies: @botazefa
  23. Wantoknow says:

    I am not that accepting. While there is definite truth in your point of view for the short run I have a rather more ruthless attitude towards nature. When it becomes a problem nature should be stomped flat. We need a technology which is not dependent on natural evolution which can intervene against structures of natural evolution such as viruses.

    Essentially we need an artificial immune supplement or substitute which can hunt down these natural structures which are dangerous and remove them from the body. This no doubt a tall order, but given the nonsense our own panic has caused with respect to this virus we owe it to ourselves to do something spectacular and final against this virus and other malign biological agents which may appear in the future.

    We may have no choice. Whether the Corona virus is a bioweapon it is reasonable to expect a viral bioweapon in our future. As the large carnivores have been rendered impotent when not dead the small ones need to be sent after their larger cousins whatever their source for our own protection. We may be in nature but commanding nature should always be the goal.

  24. Parfois1 says:

    How many TV viewers do you think remember Swine Flu – the 2009 H1N1 that killed between 150,000 and 575,000 …

    It’s almost embarrassing to say it publicly but I did not notice nor was I aware about that epidemic. And I was not living under a rock either; rather mobile and travelling through several European countries. Maybe one is not affected by something if one does not know its existence!

    Like going through life with perfect good health until you visit a doctor for some routine ailment (eg. a swollen arm) and they do all the tests in the book and declare you a chronic infirm and once you believe their verdict you are open to any ailment.

  25. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    Good observation. The CDC has a little game of flu death counting chicanery going, in which their count of flu deaths is combined with deaths from pneumonia. That’s key in viewing their overinflated count of flu deaths, and is done to promote the worthless flu vaccines.

    I can’t take any of the claims of “corona” infections at face value since there is no test that can identify the virus in a patient.

  26. @Tsar Nicholas

    Thanks for the link. The metal adjuvants used in vaccines cause harm in several ways, and it seems that they interfere with the immune system’s response. Aluminum and mercury are both toxic metals when introduced into humans and injecting them directly into a human body is insanely reckless.

    • Replies: @Alden
  27. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Aluminum and mercury were banned from vaccines decades ago.

  28. Patrick says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I appreciate the well wishes. As for Israel doing good with it, I believe the Orthodox will become stronger as a result of exposure to this virus. I also believe the Muslims will as well. I do believe in some social safety measures, however the extreme measures taken by moderns in the West I think will lead to them being weakened. I am not exactly a social darwinist. I don’t believe in harsh treatment of people, I believe in mercy. I just honestly don’t think this virus is dangerous if a person has a lot of fluids near them. I definitely don’t think people should seek it out though. The difference between people in metropolis’s and people in rural communities risks being the same difference Europeans had with regards to Native Americans in terms of immunities to diseases. In some ways it is not survival of the fittest, rather it is survival of the most diseased person who developed an immunity. The virus does seem to be giving people “fever dreams” though. Chris Cuomo also mentioned it, he had hallucinations of his late father.

  29. botazefa says:
    @Adam Smith

    Of course it helps. If you take it intravenously it cures covid. intravenously it cures covid


    Well, I read the NY Post link you provided and it says:

    The vitamin C is administered in addition to such medicines as the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin, various biologics and blood thinners, Weber said

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  30. @botazefa

    Try this one…

    Over the last decade Dr Mao has been using high-dose intravenous vitamin C (IVC) to treat patients with a variety of acute medical conditions ranging from pancreatitis and sepsis to surgical wound healing. When the coronavirus epidemic first broke out he and several other colleagues thought that high-dose intravenous C could be a potential treatment for patients presenting with the coronavirus. Their recommendation for the use of high-dose intravenous vitamin C as a treatment was adopted by the Shanghai expert team.

    Dr. Richard Cheng, an American-Chinese doctor currently based in Shanghai has given a report of this meeting. He notes that:

    “Dr. Mao stated that his group treated ~50 cases of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 infection with high dose IVC. The IVC dosing was in the range of 10,000 mg – 20,000 mg a day for 7-10 days, with 10,000 mg for moderate cases and 20,000 for more severe cases, determined by pulmonary status (mostly the oxygenation index) and coagulation status. All patients who received IVC improved and there was no mortality. Compared to the average of a 30-day hospital stay for all Covid-19 patients, those patients who received high dose IVC had a hospital stay about 3-5 days shorter than the overall patients. Dr. Mao discussed one severe case in particular who was deteriorating rapidly. He gave a bolus of 50,000 mg IVC over a period of 4 hours. The patient’s pulmonary (oxygenation index) status stabilized and improved as the critical care team watched in real time. There were no side effects reported from any of the cases treated with high dose IVC. ‘’

  31. Patrick says:
    @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    “But yeah, who are you around at the hospital? Lots of sick people. ” Exactly why I hate hospitals.

  32. Patrick says:

    “So you have not heard about people who died in their homes without any medical assistance?” No I guess I haven’t heard about that, LOL.

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