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For more than a decade and a half I have been subjected to a relentless and sometimes violent smear campaign. I have been accused of all sorts of ‘hate crimes’ including the totally ludicrous claim that I advocate the ‘burning of synagogues,[ ‘incitements of violence,’ and have routinely been labelled, among other slurs, a ‘notorious anti semite’ and a ‘Holocaust denier.’ Of course, if any of these accusations had merit, I would have spent time behind bars. The truth, as should be embarrassing for the name callers, is that I have never been charged with hate speech or any other crime. No law enforcement authority anywhere has ever even questioned me about anything I wrote or said. I perform and teach all over the world, including in Germany and Austria, where ‘holocaust denial’ is vigorously prosecuted.

My detractors boast that they intend to ruin my reputation, smear and impoverish me and any others they deem improperly critical of Israel. I should have written this piece long ago but I found it demeaning to deny baseless accusations founded on lies and misquotes. For the record, I am not an anti-Semite, a Holocaust denier, nor a conspiracy theorist.

My detractors are now terrorizing the extended music community in an attempt to accomplish their insane mission. I defy the idea that we live in a ‘post truth era.’ Athens, for me, is a core of inspiration and truth seeking and is my life time adventure. Here, in response to the fabrications attributed to me by various Jewish institutions such as the JC and the CAA, are the actual statements I made.

Gilad on Burning Synagogues: Rationality vs. Justification

Zionist pressure groups have claimed that I advocated burning synagogues. The origin of this preposterous assertion is a misquote attributed to me in a Guardian article in 2005. According to the Guardian “Gilad Atzmon, a pro-Palestine advocate, gave a talk to students this month, arguing: ‘I’m not going to say whether it is right or not to burn down a synagogue, I can see that it is a rational act.’” A week later the Guardian agreed to publish my letter in which I explain and refute this claim. “Your quote …[of me] is inaccurate and taken out of context. By no means did I justify any form of violence against Jews, Jewish interests or any innocent people. In the School of Oriental and African Studies we were debating the question of rationality of anti-semitism. I claimed that since Israel presents itself as the ‘state of the Jewish people’, and bearing in mind the atrocities committed by the Jewish state against the Palestinians, any form of anti-Jewish activity may be seen as political retaliation. This does not make it right.”

At the time, pro Zionist online discussion groups complained that the police failed to charge me with incitement of hatred. The reason for that is obvious, there was no evidence, I never advocated burning synagogues. I have always opposed any form of violence against Jews or anyone else! The British authorities understood that I was discussing the ‘discourse of rationality’ (Reasoning) and not the ‘context of rationalisation’ (Justification). Horrendous war crimes are grossly unethical but may also be rational. The decision to nuke Hiroshima, for instance, was a rational decision although insanely immoral. The same applies to Israel shelling Gaza with white phosphorus. A calculated military decision was made to engage in these vile war crimes. Examining the rationale for such crimes may be our best hope to prevent them. Rationality and morality are categorically distinct concepts as my actual words made clear.

Is Gilad a ‘Holocaust Denier?’

I have been accused of being a ‘Holocaust denier’ or a Holocaust revisionist. This is simply false. I have never denied the Holocaust nor have I written a single revisionist text as I am not an historian of any sort. I guess no need to mention once again that my mother’s family suffered enormously in that terrible period.

I am a philosopher. As such, I argue that this chapter in our past should be treated not as a religion or dogma, but must, like all other past events, be subject to scrutiny and open discussion. If history is the art of narrating the past as we move along, then revising our understanding of the past is the true meaning of the historical endeavour. In my work I argue that engaging in a discourse of history that is open to revision is at the core of the ethical insight.

It is also crucial to mention that the notion of ‘holocaust religion’ was actually coined by the legendary Israeli philosopher prof. Yeshayahu Leibowitz back in the 1970s. Leibowitz was followed by Adi Ophir, another prominent Israeli philosopher who offered his own criticism of the Holocaust religion in his paper On Sanctifying the Holocaust: An Anti-Theological Treatise.

Did Gilad really say that Hitler was right after all?

My words as they appear in my 2011 book, “The Wandering Who?” shows that I said the opposite: even the thought by some that Hitler might have been right is presented as an unacceptable scenario.

“We, for instance, can envisage an horrific situation in which an Israeli so-called ‘pre-emptive’ nuclear attack on Iran escalates into a disastrous nuclear war, in which tens of millions of people perish. I guess that amongst the survivors of such a nightmare scenario, some may be bold enough to argue that ‘Hitler might have been right after all.’ The above is obviously a fictional scenario, and by no means a wishful one, yet such a vision of a ‘possible’ horrific development should restrain Israeli or Zionist aggression towards Iran.” (The Wandering Who? pg 179)

As you can read, my actual words are diametrically opposed to the manufactured misquotes attributed to me by various Zionist pressure groups. I used the extreme example of a nuclear war to argue that Israel should finally seek peace with its neighbours to deny anyone the thought that Hitler was right after all.

Did Gilad ask Jews to apologise for the Holocaust?

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In 2014, in the light of huge anti Jewish protests in Paris, I wrote a piece titled Holocaust Day – The Time Is Ripe For A Jewish Apology. In the article I briefly elaborated on historical hatred of Jews and the Zionist promise to prevent the Jewish fate by ‘fixing’ the Jews and making them ‘people like all other people.’ I closed the article with the following paragraph. “Many Jews around the world are commemorating the Holocaust this week. But if I am correct, maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.”

Nowhere in the article did I suggest Jews apologise for the Holocaust. I accept that my words may be infuriating to those who are contemptuous of conciliatory efforts. I reckon that it would not be such a bad idea for Campaign Against Antisemitism to apologise to Labour members and Jeremy Corbyn whom they smeared mercilessly. The British Chief Rabbi could join them, as might the editors of the three British Jewish papers who literally referred to Corbyn as an ‘existential threat’ and practically equated him with Hitler. Such a peace-seeking approach on the part of some Jewish institutions will help to diffuse the anger these bodies engendered during the GE 2019 amongst many segments of the British Left.

Is Gilad a “promoter of classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories?”

According to the ADL, I’m an “outspoken promoter of classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and a fierce critic of the State of Israel.” I am indeed a fierce critic of Israel and I am outspoken. But not only do I not promote ‘antisemitic conspiracy theories,’ as I repeatedly state throughout my entire body of work, ‘there are no Jewish conspiracies. Everything is done in the open’ and in front of our eyes.

What I do observe is that we cannot speak about any of that: Jewish power, as I define it, is the power to suppress criticism of Jewish power. The Israel Lobby dominates American foreign policy, it pushes for a conflict with Iran. Similarly, the Congress’ performance of one standing ovation after the other for Netanyahu wasn’t a secret ritual. In Britain, Jewish institutions such as the Jewish papers, the Chief Rabbi and a Jewish charity declared an open war on the opposition party and its leader. None of that was ‘conspiratorial’ or secretive. We are dealing with mainstream news, yet we dare not talk about it let alone criticise it.

Evoking animosity in others

In 2013 I was interviewed by Swiss writer Alimuddin Usmanani who asked me to define what it means to be a Jew. My answer was short and conclusive:To be a Jew is to evoke animosity in others.” My answer was provocative and at least as challenging as the official Tikun Olam’s answer to the same question, i.e., ‘to be a Jew is to fix the world.’ However, while there are no statistics that show that Jews are actually engaged in fixing the world, my critics within the CAA, the ADL, The Jewish Chronicle and other Zionists institutions publish polls on an almost daily basis that suggest that Jews are hated globally and locally.

The ethos that drove early Labour Zionism both ideologically and politically was the acceptance that, for one reason or another, Jews can’t assimilate and would be safer somewhere else where they would become, through political training, into ‘people like all other people.’ I do not say that Jews should be hated. Rather like those early Zionists, I contend that Jewish institutions must self-reflect. Instead of accusing Goyim, Brits, Labour members, Americans, etc. they should engage in a true introspective process. Crying about antisemitism and/or terrorising jazz clubs and music venues won’t solve the Jewish problem, it will make it worse and the situation is clearly deteriorating as the AD L/CAA/CST statistics on anti semitism reveal.

Is David Duke a humanist?

I oppose all forms of biologically oriented politics. I oppose all forms of politics that are defined by race, gender or sexual orientation. I contend that politics ought to unite us as equals rather than divide us on the basis of biology. David Duke and I hold distinctly opposite positions on this and other fundamental issues.

In March 2014 I gave an interview to larmurerie.fr/ I can’t trace the original French article but a Google translation of the French original exists on my site. I was asked by the French Journalist the following question: Many French people share your opinion. For example, there is a French thinker, Hervé Ryssen, who uses the same metaphor as you when you talk about the mirror, saying that when a Jew accuses you of being an anti-semite, you just have to read the mirror image of the argument to reveal his racism towards goyim.”

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My answer was as follows. “I actually use the word projection, but the mirror image is no doubt similar. And projection, by the way, is something that Freud taught us about. You know, we have to admit that some of the most interesting humanists in the history of the West are Jews: Christ, Spinoza, Marx were Jews. Why is that?…Now there is something very interesting and it’s again the first time I’m saying it. The left is devastated by David Duke for instance. He was in the KKK when he was young. But here is something quite amazing: I read him and I was shocked to find out that this guy knows more about Jewish identity than I do! How could a supposedly ‘racist’ Gentile who probably never entered a synagogue knows more than I do about Judaism? The reason is in fact very simple: he is a proud white man. He’s interested in nationalism, in the culture of his own people, so he understands things that I am not even allowed to think about. Believe it or not, even as a Jew, I wasn’t allowed to think of myself as a racist. I was a racist, maybe I am still one, but I was not allowed to acknowledge it. Once he acknowledges that he’s talking about white people’s rights, in a way he thinks like Avigdor Lieberman! But in fact, he is way better than Lieberman. David Duke is a humanist because he says, «I want to celebrate my right and you should celebrate your rights» whether you are Muslim or black or whatever. He believes that all people should celebrate their rights, this is his current philosophy . Avidgor Liberman is not a humanist, because he wants to celebrate his rights at the expense of other people.”

In my book. Humanism is primarily a universal adventure. Duke, today, is no doubt a separatist. He prefers to see people living in partitioned enclaves, he opposes immigration and his political thought is racially oriented, yet, if I understand it correctly, he believes that all people regardless of their race, ethnicity, skin colour or religion should enjoy such a right. At least in comparison with the right wing Zionist philosophy that adheres to the idea that one people should celebrate their self determination on the expense of another people, Duke’s current offering is more ethical, universal and humane. I understand that some Jews may be upset by the comparison, however, the way to deal with disagreement is to produce a counter argument rather than terrorising the music community. I myself hold completely opposing views to Duke’s on the matter: I believe that people should learn to live together and seek harmony. This is why I left Israel. However, despite of my disagreement with Duke on some fundamental and crucial issues, in consistance with the Western intellectual tradition, I take pride in making an effort to understand positions before I criticize them.

Does Gilad Hate Jews?

As I have stated time and time again, I have never criticized Jews or anyone else as a people, a race, an ethnicity or a biology. I challenge my detractors to produce a single reference in my work that contradicts this. No one has ever produced the goods. In my work there is no hatred whatsoever, against Jews or anyone else. Many years ago, I accepted that some Jews regard me as a ‘self hater’ yet, I fail to see how me hating myself is so unsettling for other Jews.

In 2014 I produced a statement that some mistakenly saw as an admission of ‘Jew hatred’ and racism. At the time, I engaged in a brief twitter exchange with @OnePoundOne, an Israeli nationalist who frequently urged the murder of Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs.

On one occasion @OnePoundOne insisted that ‘as a Jew’ I should support his violent anti Arab/Muslim rampage. I replied:

“@OnePoundOne 1. I am not a Jew anymore 2. I indeed despise the Jew in me (whatever is left) 3. I absolutely detest the Jew in you.”

@OnePoundOne’s twitter account was suspended shortly after our exchange for spreading hate speech and advocating violence.

Despite the suspension of @OnePoundOne’s account, some examples of his hateful communications survive on the internet in the form of screenshots.

I have never before publicly addressed the criticism over my answer to @OnePoundOne. Anti-Semites are people who hate Jews for being Jews. Anti-Semites do not accept that Jews can stop being Jews and morph into something else. My response to @OnePoundOne dismantles this racist doctrine:

1. I suggest that one can choose to stop being a Jew. In this view, Jewishness is a cultural or religious construct and is not either racially or biologically determined.

2. To the extent I myself retain that culture, I admit that I detest that cultural aspect in myself.

3. Further, I rejected any cultural impetus that may exist in @OnePoundOne’s hateful statements that called for violence against Arabs, Palestinians and Muslims ‘as a Jew’.

But there is a fascinating intellectual exercise to apply here that helps explain my reaction to @OnePoundOne’s vile incitement of violence. Replacing the word ‘Jew’ with ‘Protestant’ in my answer to @OnePoundOne would read as follows: “1. I am not a Protestant anymore 2. I indeed despise the Protestant in me (whatever is left) 3. I absolutely detest the Protestant in you.” While some might find this offensive, it is not racist as Protestantism is a belief system rather than a racial identification. If we proceed with this exercise and replace the word Jew with a biological category such as skin-colour or race, the statement collapses instantly as ‘I am not Black anymore’ is a meaningless statement for someone who is Black. Similarly, ‘I am not Caucasian anymore’ is just as silly and hollow. In other words, my answer to @OnePoundOne could never be grasped as a ‘racist’ offensive statement as it defies the idea that Jews are actually a race, as I myself managed to stop being one.

I am afraid to inform my detractors once again, that at least intellectually, I operate as a philosopher. If they want to fight my ideas, they will first have to invest some energy in understanding what I am saying.

Look at these clueless British students recycling misquotes without verifying their authenticity or their meanings:

Final words on the matter

I accept that my deconstruction of Jewish Identity politics upsets some Jews: no one likes to be scrutinized or criticized. But my work is limited to questioning politics and culture. I have never criticized Jews or anyone else in racial, biological, physiological or ethnic terms. I dig into ideology, politics and culture assuming that these three must be subject to criticism. The fact that I am smeared and defamed for doing so, only suggests to me and others that in the eyes of some self identified Jews, their politics, ideology and culture are beyond criticism. In fact, this is exactly the supremacist view I deconstruct in my work.

I would expect that by now, considering their relentless efforts to destroy me, my detractors would have managed to spot a single incriminating line in my work so they don’t have to keep fabricating quotes and taking words out of context while terrorizing jazz clubs in between. So far they have failed to do so. This raises the assumption that their insane campaign against me, one that reflects very badly on my detractors, suggests that I have something very important to say.

I honestly believe that if my detractors would engage with my writing instead of attempting to burn my books, anti-Semitism wouldn’t be an issue in Britain or anywhere else. Jews would enjoy their lives and live in harmony with their neighbors. I guess that in the minds of some Zionists crucifying me is the way forward. Some people must be foolish not to see that they turn me into an intellectual martyr, a Jazzus figure.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Some people must be foolish not to see that they turn me into an intellectual martyr, a Jazzus figure.

    OnePoundOne wrote, “I’ll also be throwing rocks at the event.”
    How many ancient prophets were stoned? Interesting that these psychopaths today juggle with the idea of trying to suppress fearless speakers in the same violent manner. They are not progressing and are only regressing into their ancient Pharisaic-preached tendency to act with ill will and violence.

    Gilad is a fantastic thinker, speaker and writer. I personally and completely disagree with his idea that there are no “hidden conspiracies.” There are too many Jews with stage names like “Redstone” to counter that notion. That aside, his analysis in the “Wandering Who” is great work. Keep fighting and keep writing!

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  2. @Jon Baptist

    Tx for your support Jon,,, and don’t worry, I also often do not agree with me entirely 🙂

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  3. Tony Hall says:

    I have been accused of all sorts of ‘hate crimes’ including the totally ludicrous claim that I advocate the ‘burning of synagogues,[ ‘incitements of violence,’ and have routinely been labelled, among other slurs, a ‘notorious anti semite’ and a ‘Holocaust denier.’ Of course, if any of these accusations had merit, I would have spent time behind bars. The truth, as should be embarrassing for the name callers, is that I have never been charged with hate speech or any other crime. No law enforcement authority anywhere has ever even questioned me about anything I wrote or said. I perform and teach all over the world, including in Germany and Austria, where ‘holocaust denial’ is vigorously prosecuted.

    I am quite startled to see this comment suggesting that the criminal justice system is somehow to be understood as an honest broker when it comes to determining who does or does not deserve the smears and punishments perpetrated and called for by the Israel Lobby. There is a huge body of evidence published prominently on this site by Ron Unz among others that the ADL of B’nai B’rith is an agency that has become deeply internal to many agencies of law enforcement in the Occident. That thesis conforms well to things I have experienced and witnessed personally.

    What are the implications of Gilad’s assessment here? Is there the suggestion here that those who have been questioned by police, or otherwise investigated, or have been charged, or have been incarcerated for crossing this or that arbitrary line, are more inclined to be guilty of something worthy of punishment? Is there the suggestion that those who have been processed by the criminal justice system are more inclined to be guilty of something worthy of punishment; that they are less than pristine for articulating their knowledge and reflections no matter how awkward to power? This line of inquiry should raise questions about the ethics of engaging in self-censorship as an expedient to avoid legal, political and familial recriminations? How can any of us in the police state atmosphere of the post-9/11 world get by without engaging in some degree of self-censorship sometimes?

    I have never been charged with a speech crime. But I have been very publicly “investigated” by local police in Alberta Canada. B’nai Brith Canada did make a big issue of reporting me to the police and asking law enforcement officials to charge me according to the “Hate Propaganda” provisions of Canada’s Criminal Code. B’nai Brith Canada effectively spun the story in a way that made it seem that because this key agency of the Israel Lobby in Canada had asked the police to investigate me, and police had agreed to do so, I must be guilty of something.

    https://www.bnaibrith.ca/calgary_police_investigating_antisemitic_post_on_facebook

    In my case the initial allegations were based on words and on an image that were posted on my Facebook wall. The reprehensible post is said to have come from Glen Davidson of Lethbridge. This Facebook “friend” of mine (when I was on Facebook, which I’m not now) told me he never posted the atrocious item. After a matter of hours on August 26, 2016 the post was reportedly removed, reportedly by Facebook Corporation. The pressure to remove the post, about which I was not aware at the time, reportedly came from B’nai Brith and some of its members. I believe this operation can be conceived of as a digital false flag of sorts.

    By following the available evidence I have traced the origins of the post to a certain Joshua Goldberg who is said to be now in federal penitentiary on terrorist charges. Neither B’nai Brith Canada nor the Board of Governors of the University of Lethbridge have ever faced up to their reciprocal roles in the fraud entailed in the Facebook Deception. They have never had to account for their partnership in deploying the Facebook Deception as the original basis for pumping up the concerted momentum of the media campaign that led in early October of 2016 to the removal of this tenured full prof from the classroom in mid-term without pay and without due process.

    https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is/2018/04/deceptions/

    Along the way to my suspension, the Facebook Deception was deployed by my detractors in their effort to have the cops intervene, which in a way they did when they announced that no charges would be pressed against me after their “investigation.” From the perspective of many, the mere indication that a university prof was being investigated for the “Hate Propaganda” provisions in Canada’s Criminal Code was enough to put me under a pretty dark cloud. The cloud was geoengineered by B’nai Brith Canada whose public faces at the time were those of Michael Mostyn, Amanda Hohmann, and Ryan Bellerose. This campaign, in turn, was quickly extended to dozens of MSM outlets including the Calgary branch of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation which sometimes conducts itself as B’nai Brith Canada’s PR agency.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israeli-canadian-thought-police-take-aim-at-me/220670/

    But this intervention is first and foremost about Gilad, not me. The point is that when Gilad seeks to underline that law enforcement officials have never even questioned him with respect to (the illegitimate codes?) of “hate speech” infractions, he inadvertently puts a cloud over those who have not been subject to the same treatment he has received. Is there the possibility that Gilad’s own birth history as an Israeli Jew (and later IDF veteran) might have been a factor in holding back some UK law enforcement officials from pressing on him the same treatment that goys might expect when we articulate on the fraught and forbidden topics according to what our research findings, our consciences and our rational sensibilities demand of us?

    When it comes to the issue of involvement in “conspiracy theories,” I think its well known in some circles that Gilad shies away from dealing specifically with 9/11. Is that still the case? Have I missed anything? This unwillingness to address not only what happened on 9/11 but also who did what to whom and why is pretty common among some career-oriented folks who actually are well informed about the ins and outs of the whole controversy. We all need a gig or two to get by in this capitalist, increasingly authoritarian, militarized and maliciously spied upon world.

    One of the implications of this situation is that those of us who are willing to talk about 9/11— to talk and write even about the relationship of Israel First partisans to the execution of the crime including the ongoing cover up— are left way way more isolated and thus vulnerable than we should be. Almost certainly my scholarly interest in exploring the evidence of 9/11, which I talked about regularly with Kevin Barrett between 2015 and 2017 when we co-hosted False Flag Weekly News, was a factor in the decision of B’nai Brith Canada to go after me. To realize their agenda, B’nai Brith Canada and other organizations, including the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs, CIJA, successfully recruited the administration of the University of Lethbridge into the Israel Lobby.

    As Christopher Bollyn has explored with Gilad, our gifted jazz musician friend is indeed related to Menachem Atzmon. This Atzmon was an official in the International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS). On 9/11 the ICTS handled the entry of passengers onto the flights at Boston’s Logan Airport. My sense from Bollyn’s account of the long historical background of the 9/11 psy op, is that it goes back at least to the Jerusalem International Conference on International Terrorism in 1979. Bollyn has left me with the impression that there is much knowledge shared among many families with home bases in Israel that would might be of major significance is putting together many of the remaining still-undiscovered pieces of the larger 9/11 puzzle.

    Is there an element of tribal loyalty here in keeping the veil in place on the internal-to-Israel aspect of the 9/11 operation, an operation of deception that continues to be the most transformative event of the twenty-first century. Who among us can achieve full release from tribal loyalties?

  4. melpol says:

    We all choose the best way to make a buck. Gilad has found his niche in writing about the faults and wrong doings of Jews. He is not a proven Jew hater, on the contrary he most likely has many Jewish friends. My writings are complementary to Jewish progress, but I have not earned a buck. Gilad has become wealthy as the Devil’s Advocate. It is possible that I too will find dozens of Jewish faults and also earn a buck.

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  5. I presume it was Israel’s Trump,not to be confused with Amerikkka’s Zionist Presidente Trump,who provided the phosphate for the Israeli phosphorous bombs.Or does Israel import them ? I thought
    they would have been internationally banned since the British first tried them out on Iraqis in the 1930s and on the inhabitants of Dresden near the end of WWII.

    Now Israel’`s Trump bas stopped mining Palestinian phosphates since the governent closed his ammonium storage facility.I suppose with all that natural gas the Isra-heilis can now make their own ammonia but they still can’t grow their own grains so I suppose more explosives would be its best use.

    Funny,(peculiar), the Israeli Trump and the Zionist Amerikkkan Presidente Trump are both into Florida real estate development on the coast while inland Florida is a ticking time bomb with its big slag heaps of phosphogypsum with its’ radioactive uranium and radon etc biding its tie and laughing at their dumb asses.Appropriate the largest phosphate miner is named Mosaic.

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  6. By no means do I try to vindicate the police force or the justice system, neither here in the UK nor anywhere else. … What I am really saying is despite the system being occupied and compromised, there was nothing I have done that could even be mildly interpreted as hate speech.. I am saying it because I am accused on daily basis through the Jewish media outlets and institutions of vile hate crimes and incitement of violence …This article is there to show that these and institutions are duplicitous to the core… I can delve into Athens and Jerusalem here but I ll keep the good staff for the right occasion…

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  7. Ron Unz has me on short rations; I think it’s only two posts an hour on the entire site.

    …so there’s much I’d like to say in response to your essay — but only one post for now (I just used the other one elsewhere).

    One question you fail to answer is why the focus on you? Is it simply because you are Jewish and need to be whipped back into line? That sounds good but fails if we consider the apparent immunity of Ron Unz, 0r Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss. They say the same or worse with apparent impunity; Ron says or at least implicitly endorses much worse.

    On the other hand, Norm Finkelstein has been hounded at least as vociferously as you — but his critiques are perhaps more damaging than yours. Certainly they’re more detailed, documented, specific, and broadly disseminated.

    You are, really, relatively harmless. Why aren’t the mobs ambushing Ron Unz when he flies back into the Bay Area from wherever? One might argue that Ron Unz isn’t a public figure, but then, neither are you, really. I could ask the next hundred people I meet if they’d ever heard of Gilad Atzmon, and I’d be surprised if even one said ‘yes.’

    So why the witch hunt? What is it about you that excites them so?

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  8. @Tony Hall

    Re Menachem Atzmon. I never met him. I asked my old man about Menachem, my dad is over 80 now, he said he saw him last time in his Barmitzvah. To the point, I think that you being suspicious of me and my tribal connections is a positive development! If J power is the power to suppress criticism of J power, then the counter measure is speaking your mind in the open. Fearlessly saying things as you see them…

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  9. melpol says:

    Iran doesn’t have a US lobbyist due to federal restrictions. But it has its under the table ways of publishing its hate Israel talking points. There are dozens of websites devoted to anti-Israel propaganda. Some might be funded by Iranian cash. Those found guilty of accepting Iranian rewards can be prosecuted. But there are websites that are innocently devoted to bad mouthing Israel. None take Iranian cash.

  10. @Colin Wright

    It is a good question Colin
    a few possibilities:
    1. I am an EX jew– they really do not like the idea

    2. I am actually very careful in my discourse. I do not give them the, means to finish me off

    3. I am a pretty successful jazz artist .. my gigs are always full and my act is pretty humorous. they don’t like it at all…

    4. I have managed to obliterate some of their most sophisticated tactics. I for instance revealed that Zionism is not the problem, it is just a symptom of the problem. In my work on 3rd category Jews I actually revealed that Zionists and the so called ‘anti’ are actually twins. (The Wandering Wh0)

    5. this prepared the ground to my work on Controlled Opposition

    6. I guess that I am dangerous because I am not violent, or political. I operate completely alone and speak my mind.

    7. In fact this magazine has become the home for many writers and thinkers like myself… I am very happy to see it growing so fast ..

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  11. anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    as the official Tikun Olam’s answer to the same question, i.e., ‘to be a Jew is to fix the world

    “fixing” other people without their request, without their consent – is violence

    maybe this attitude towards the rest of us, that we have to be “fixed” is why jews are so hated?

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  12. kikl says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    I hope you have all the support you need Gilad. I wish you all the best.

    So what will you answer a fellow jew when asked, why do they hate us? The current jewish theory is that hatred for jews is a mutating virus. Everyone except for the jews is the host of this virus. The goyim start assassinating jews as soon as the virus becomes active.

    Sounds crazy to me. Just think, inspite of the genius of the Jewish people, they haven’t figured out the real reason for this hatred.

    Well, maybe its because of this:

    “I am saying it because I am accused on daily basis through the Jewish media outlets and institutions of vile hate crimes and incitement of violence …This article is there to show that these and institutions are duplicitous to the core”

    Sure, we should not generalize. But, you are by no means the first victim of jewish slander and character assassination. Virtually everyone who dares to speak truth to Jewish power is persecuted in this manner by powerful jews. Very few jews dare to speak up against this tyranny. You are one of them.

    So how do Jews want to make people love them? Well, by persecuting anyone who criticizes them and by silencing and imprisoning anyone who exposes jewish lies. They act like a husband who tries to beat his wife into love and respect. Somehow it never really works, but he keeps on trying.

    Thus, immeasurable Jewish genius is married to infinite Jewish stupidity.

    Sure, I am not talking about “all the jews”. But the powerful elite is both ingenius and moronic. Ingenious in their vile methods of persecution and moronic in the belief that this will solve or alleviate the problem of antisemitism.

    We goyim have to live with them and love them in order not to be turned into a pariah. Thus, it’s not easy to like them, but we must.

    I have lots of sympathy for you. So maybe I am not an antisemite, I hope.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    , @renfro
  13. @Tony Ryals

    ‘I thought
    they would have been internationally banned since the British first tried them out on Iraqis in the 1930s and on the inhabitants of Dresden near the end of WWII….’

    White Phosphorus was and as far as I know still is perfectly legal for use as a military munition — to be fired at enemy combatants in the course of armed conflict. It’s neither worse nor better than, say, flechettes, or ordinary high explosive. It’s also useful to produce smoke, and I suppose as an illuminant. The connoisseur might correct me or further elaborate, but that’s the general idea.

    However, you are not supposed to use it to terrify civilian populations and inflict horrific injuries on random, innocent victims — any more than it’s cool to blow them apart with high explosive, dismember them with cluster bombs, or just herd them together and machine-gun them.

    That’s the problem with the applications Israel finds for it.

  14. @melpol

    ‘… Gilad has become wealthy as the Devil’s Advocate…’

    Has he, then? This gig a big money-maker, Gilad?

    I’m skeptical…

  15. lloyd says:
    @Colin Wright

    Gilad Atzmon is in the popular culture while the others listed here are not. He is a good target for the useful idiots. I myself am a little surprised the Unz Review is still available. Maybe the contributors are being monitored. And to be honest there isn’t anything original in it, that could not be easily found elsewhere. Insurance? There was a Mediawhores site in New Zealand owned by a Cohen Glass. It was allowed to operate hair raising stuff, some clearly demented or parody, without hinderence. Last I heard Cohen Glass was committed to a mental hospital and the site closed down.

  16. Lot says:

    Zionist Franklin Graham deplatformed at every single UK venue.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/uk/franklin-graham-uk-tour-scli-intl/index.html

    • Replies: @BDS Always
  17. @Lot

    How can one when hearing the below statements not understand the mindset of a Zionist.

    Richard Boyd Barrett reads out shocking statements made recently by Israeli government ministers. These words come in the wake of the 2014 assault on Gaza which saw over 2100 Palestinians killed, 10,000 injured and 100,000 made homeless. Of those killed, over 500 were children – children whom the current Israeli Justice Minister, Ayelet Shaked, refers to as “snakes”.

  18. I fail to see how me hating myself is so unsettling for other Jews.

    The faith embraces supremacy, so an insider rejecting that supremacy will be the ultimate outcast.

  19. Polemos says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    So then what do you freely say about 9/11?

  20. By no means did I justify any form of violence against Jews, Jewish interests or any innocent people. [GA]

    Occupied Palestine Jews [OPJs], that drag couches up hills to watch the wanton slaughter of Palestinians, aren’t innocent… I can’t compare them to anything alive on this planet, without insulting any of the species that come to mind.

    I can live without OPJs and the world would be a much more peaceful place because of it.

    There, I said it.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, renfro
  21. Ron Unz says:

    You are, really, relatively harmless. Why aren’t the mobs ambushing Ron Unz when he flies back into the Bay Area from wherever? One might argue that Ron Unz isn’t a public figure, but then, neither are you, really.

    Actually, I do think I know the answer that that question…

    As I’ve discussed in the past, I think it’s pretty clear that the ADL and similar sorts of organizations are utterly, *utterly* terrified of this website in general and probably my American Pravda series in particular. As a consequence, they’ve probably issued an edict that this website may never be mentioned, and it’s obviously a little difficult to demonize something whose very existence you’re not allowed to recognize.

    As an example, just a few weeks ago they could have greatly increased the effectiveness of their attacks on top Trump advisor Stephen Miller by merely pointing out his connection with this website. But avoiding mention of this website was more important than getting him fired:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/monthly-fees-for-heavy-users/?showcomments#comment-3594664

    Assuming that my analysis is correct, nothing anyone writes here can be used against him since this website officially Does Not Exist.

    People who believe otherwise are encouraged to poke, bait, and prod the ADL as much as possible in hopes of eliciting a response.

  22. @melpol

    I am a jazz artist my dear , not exactly a Mamonite…if anything, my stand for justice and against Israeli brutality made my life slightly difficult …but it worth it…

  23. @kikl

    One line answer… look in the mirror, self reflect, introspect …

  24. May truth and God protect you, my friend.

  25. @anon

    Of course it is violent, it is supremacist to the core .. it says , we know better …

  26. renfro says:
    @kikl

    So how do Jews want to make people love them?

    Jews, and I am speaking of the Zionist , don’t wan’t to be loved, they want to be feared.
    Listen to them, look at their writings ..” we demand!, we condemn!’, we are the genius!’….it’s all there in their language. They dream that instead of Jews going hat in hand to beg favor from the ‘others’ that the tables will turn and the ‘others’ will be at their feet instead.

    Historically a people with no power who survived by servicing royal rulers they gained real power by parlaying the holocaust into politics.
    However, their power is entirely dependent on keeping the US politicians behind them.
    They don’t have the power to demand or condemn or threatened anything without the US backing.

    So battle ground No 1 for them is America….and their real enemy and existential threat is we ‘others ‘ in America.

  27. ‘…So battle ground No 1 for them is America….and their real enemy and existential threat is we ‘others ‘ in America.’

    This is more or less true. Israel’s fate will be decided in America.

    The challenging bit for Israel that it won’t suffice that we continue to be her uncritically adoring slave. We have to continue to be her uncritically adoring slave and remain global hegemon. Neither one by itself will suffice — yet they conflict with each other to at least some extent. Witness the effects of our Drang nach Teheran. That could easily be all she wrote for us as global hegemon — yet it’s what Israel feels compelled to force us to do.

    • Replies: @renfro
  28. renfro says:
    @Colin Wright

    Israel can do nothing without the US as we all know and see…..so perhaps it would be quicker to let it ruin the US …we are big enough to me back from ruin, Israel isnt. In fact a semi ruined US could be the necessary re-set to clean out the corrupt government.

    Netanyahu’s Election Hopes Rope U.S. Into Africa’s ‘Last Colony’

    ”Israel asked the U.S. to open a consulate in Moroccan-annexed Western Sahara to help it normalize ties with the North African nation, an official said, a move that would bolster both Morocco’s territorial claim and the Israeli leader’s re-election bid.

    If relations should indeed thaw, there are quite a few things Sudan could get from Israel
    . Among them: technological and scientific aid, and, above all, access to the White House.
    Sudan, like other countries in the region, is well aware of the strength of the bond between Netanyahu and the current U.S. administration. In a near-pariah state like Sudan, that is in dire need of rehabilitation from the West, after years of civil war, war crimes and involvement in regional terrorism. Israel is perceived as an essential conduit to the United States.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-what-sudan-really-wants-from-israel-after-normalization-1.8503943

    Mentioned elsewhere is also that Netanyahu is after this Muslim country because he is trying tol line up some Muslim counties to support the Kushner peace plan.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  29. renfro says:
    @Ron Unz

    Makes sense. To attack you or the site would only drive more people here to see what the fuss is about.

  30. Nodwink says:
    @Ron Unz

    You were mates with the late General Odom. Surely this fact would have them wondering who else among Washington’s elite you are friendly with. I know if I were working for an organization like the ADL, I would think twice about publicly attacking someone with your connections.

  31. Kali says:
    @Tony Hall

    I find your comment quite astonishing, Tony, not only because you wish to compare Gilad situation to your own, when, given what you tell us about your own, they are not particularly comparable,

    but also because:

    You seem to be suggesting that because Gilad is of Jewish lineage that he is unwilling to discuss Israels involvement in 9.11, that it is “jewishness” and “tribal loyalty” which lies behind that reluctance.

    I wonder how many “Christian” writers also, for whatever reasons, swerve the 9.11 discussion, and if their reasoning is somehow related to their “christianness”?

    Many, many, many public figures avoid the discussion for all kinds of reasons. Not all avoid the issue because they are/were “jewish”.

    Also, you suggest that Gilad is implying that anyone investigated for a “crime” is somehow guilty, when what he is actually saying is that, guilt or innocence notwithstanding, if there had been anything to prompt an investigation in the first place then he would have been investigated.
    Trying to read more into what is very clear in the above article is just silly – and more than a little self-serving on your part. (Well it did give you a nice opening to tell your own story, at least)

    Or am I missing something?

    Kali.

  32. Great article, Gilad. “Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.”
    Sorry, Gilad, but as you know this is impossible. Jewish power is entirely premised on near external victimhood. Indeed, victimhood makes that power invisible. How can the eternal victim even have power?
    This the religion of the holocaust. To question it in even trivially implies it can be questioned. The holocaust must be accepted as an article of faith, because it is the single greatest example of victimhood. Naturally, there can be no question of Jews ever, ever, ever provoking Goy anger etc. It’s unthinkable.
    Jewish history is a self reinforcing edifice. Allow one chink in the structure to emerge & the whole edifice may turn to a house of cards.

    “the right wing Zionist philosophy that adheres to the idea that one people should celebrate their self determination on the expense of another people,”
    This is another essential. Jewish history is replete with the zero sum game. The take over of the land of Canaan was a sanctioned exercise in violence, exploitation & dehumanisation. (no other religion of the time, I can think of, was so inveterably hostile to other Gods — & thus their people’s
    — not that that stopped the Jew’s from absorbing bits & peices of other religions) .
    A significant proportion of “Jewish” success through the ages involved variations on the financial / mercantile exploitation of Christians & other outsiders. This, naturally, continues to this day. The land of Canaan becomes Palestine — violence, lies, fraud sanctified. Israel’s fraudulent exploitation of the US is a tour de force in exploitation. (imagine learning of the US/Israel relationship out of context — no one would — could believe it. And the Israeli’s — are laughing their heads off. The utter contempt they feel for all these “useful idiots” like US christian Zionists — utterly hilarious. (they deliberately attack an innocent USS liberty killing, wounding dozens & …consequences? The US almost has a hernia covering it up. Gall, Chutzpah barely scratch the surface here.

    “The fact that I am smeared and defamed for doing so, only suggests to me and others that in the eyes of some self identified Jews, their politics, ideology and culture are beyond criticism.

    Again, organised Jewry must be “beyond criticism”. Jewish power simply can not exist. The naked emperor must NEVER be remarked upon.

  33. Truth3 says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    The Concept of the Ex-Jew. An extraordinary situation. One that demands the people force Governmental protection by whatever means necessary.

    Born to a Jewish mother, or parents, or raised as a Jew… the Human decides one day that the comforts, protections, and opportunities provided by the Tribe (and they are substantial) are not worth the idea of living another day as a Tribal member (as the Ex-Jew sees the horrible nature of the Tribe from within, ala Gilad Atzmon… or wants to share in Christ’s mercy ala Nate Kapner) and so Judaism or Chosenism is rejected in favor of Islam or Christianity or Humanism.

    Ex-Jews, however, receive the Tribe’s fury. Sometimes, the fury is increased by the Ex-Jew embracing another religion.

    Mordechai Vanunu is an example of added vindictive punishment… beyond only for being a whistleblower… that was undoubtably magnified by his becoming a Christian (John Crossman).

    I’m sending my Guardian Angel to you for your doubled protection Gilad. Send the Angel back when you have solved your issues with Jews (probably never).

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  34. @Truth3

    Yep, there is nothing that disturbs them more than the ex Jew… and for a reason.. the ex brings to light their self doubts …

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Truth3
  35. druid55 says:
    @melpol

    recurrent talmudist troll

    • Agree: Truth3
  36. @Ron Unz

    As I’ve discussed in the past, I think it’s pretty clear that the ADL and similar sorts of organizations are utterly, *utterly* terrified of this website in general and probably my American Pravda series in particular. As a consequence, they’ve probably issued an edict that this website may never be mentioned, and it’s obviously a little difficult to demonize something whose very existence you’re not allowed to recognize.

    You may be quite right, as you are not on the following list:

    https://archive.is/vvpf9

    Where you should be considering the articles on 911…

    Anyway! Congratulations!

    • Agree: Tony Hall
    • Replies: @Truth3
  37. @Gilad Atzmon

    I also often do not agree with me entirely

    As the saying goes: where there are 12 Jews, there are 13 synagogues.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. @renfro

    ‘Israel can do nothing without the US as we all know and see…..so perhaps it would be quicker to let it ruin the US …we are big enough to me back from ruin, Israel isnt. In fact a semi ruined US could be the necessary re-set to clean out the corrupt government.’

    There’s a lot to be said for that.

    After all, global hegemon isn’t the norm for us — we’ve only been playing at that since 1945. More generally, it’s been a matter of ‘the business of America is business.’

    Nothing wrong with that, and maybe after something like the Great Depression redux, we can get back to it.

    To be frank, I am about half-with the anti-semites here though — although they persistently keep denouncing me for failure to toe the line to their complete satisfaction.

    Something has to be done about the Jewish-dominated, cultural Marxist, blacks-are-just-fine, globalist stuff infecting our national consciousness. There’s a perfectly clear vision of what America should be — it’s mostly white, for starters — and we need to get back to that.

  39. @Gilad Atzmon

    ‘Yep, there is nothing that disturbs them more than the ex Jew… and for a reason.. the ex brings to light their self doubts …’

    This probably is true — although I don’t think it has anything to do with ‘self-doubt.’ Historically, one can see how it came about.

    The Christian authorities have been persistently trying to convert Jews for the past thousand years — and have often succeeded. Almost necessarily, the Jewish community must have survived by enforcing compliance with its dictates — by making everyone be a ‘good Jew.’

    Those communities that failed to enforce such dicta almost certainly would have vanished. What, after all, really happened to most of the Jews of the Rhineland et al? Were they really all murdered or forced to emigrate to Poland?

    One suspects that the less rigidly authoritarian communities simply ceased to practice Judaism — became ‘Christians’ — at first superficially, but with greater substance with every passing generation.

    The Jewish community that did survive must have been very, very good at enforcing compliance with its dictates — and indeed, the Tsarist authorities in the early nineteenth century noticed this.

    It seems to linger on today. The Fran Taubmans of this world could care less about Kevin MacDonald ranting away — the name alone implies he’s not a priority — but Gilad Atzmon is stepping out of line?

    At a minimum, he needs to be made an example of.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  40. Truth3 says:
    @Olivier1973

    https://archive.is/vvpf9

    That site lists over 1,000 “conspiracy” sites.

    Lots of Truth being told there.

  41. @Colin Wright

    Has Fran been banned? She would normally be all over Atzmon’s articles, Indo recall her saying she was banned from Peter Giraldi’s column (although I don’t know if such a thing is even possible on Unz)

    Or maybe @melpol is Fran’s new identity?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Kali
  42. @Olivier1973

    ‘I also often do not agree with me entirely

    As the saying goes: where there are 12 Jews, there are 13 synagogues.’

    This consideration is what makes me skeptical of the more extreme versions of anti-semitism promoted around here — conscious agency is implied, and all or most Jews are involved in some sort of monolithic conspiracy.

    I don’t think Jews even could do that. Now, they do tend to adhere to various progressive dogmas, and mention of Israel provokes a kind of visceral tribalism in most of them — but that really is a different matter entirely.

    …it occurs to me that this at least comes close to contradicting my previous post.

    Hmm…

  43. @Just passing through

    ‘Has Fran been banned? She would normally be all over Atzmon’s articles, Indo recall her saying she was banned from Peter Giraldi’s column (although I don’t know if such a thing is even possible on Unz)

    It’s hard to deny it’s a pleasant thought. I’ve been wondering the same thing myself; why isn’t she policing Gilad?

    Or maybe @melpol is Fran’s new identity?

    I doubt it. 1. Melpol isn’t an idiot — in fact, he’s pretty formidable for a Zionist. 2. He started posting before Fran stopped. That’s not conclusive, but…

    I actually asked Melpol if he was a professional Hasbarist. If Fran is, Israel’s really not a threat.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  44. Saggy says: • Website

    This consideration is what makes me skeptical of the more extreme versions of anti-semitism promoted around here — conscious agency is implied

    Conscious agency? My heavens, how could you possibly think that …..

  45. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Tony Hall

    It wasn’t Jews per se who were responsible for 9/11 it was Israel a terrorist state fabricated by both Christian and Jewish Zionists with the help of Adolph Hitler:

    http://holywar.org/txt/founder_of_Israel.pdf

    Whom could be considered one of its founding fathers.

    Israel did 9/11. Not the Choose:

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

  46. @Ron Unz

    Still a big mystery why you are not on anyones radar.

  47. @Colin Wright

    Melpol is probably just a casual reader who happens to be a Zionist, he/she is unapologetically a Jewish supremacist so at least he/she is being honest.

    Fran tries to use the Christian morality inherent within the goyim to demand compassion for the Jews who, to use that famous turn of phrase, Sindh nuffin’ and are being hated on for absolutely no reason at all.

    When Israel send their Hasbarists, they’re not sending their best.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Colin Wright
  48. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Yes I’ve noticed that interesting phenomenon too Ron. There seems to be those sites that ADL and SPLC dare not attack probably as one astute commenter noted it would just drive people to sites like yours and others you’ve listed on your roll here.

    Probably what they fear the most is that people might actually read the actual history of the ADL published on your site some time back that I recommend you repost again.

    • Thanks: Ron Unz
  49. utu says:
    @Just passing through

    “…he/she is being honest.” – So he is not serving the Jewish cause. Are you sure he is Jewish.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  50. @Just passing through

    ‘Melpol is probably just a casual reader who happens to be a Zionist, he/she is unapologetically a Jewish supremacist so at least he/she is being honest.

    Fran tries to use the Christian morality inherent within the goyim to demand compassion for the Jews who, to use that famous turn of phrase, Sindh nuffin’ and are being hated on for absolutely no reason at all.

    When Israel send their Hasbarists, they’re not sending their best.

    Yeah, scanning his posts, it looks like you’re right. Melpol might be from Israel, though; there’s something wrong with his English.

    As to how to identify Hasbarists in general, we can start by ruling out those that obviously aren’t doing Israel any favors. If I were in charge of that Israeli Hasbara unit, I’d get Fran away from the keyboard pronto, for example.

    So the true Hasbarist has to at least be giving us well-presented boilerplate. At a minimum, he shouldn’t be actively making matters worse.

    Then, he would presumably not be being paid to go on and on about utter irrelevancies. It’s not credible that Lot is a Hasbarist, for example: he just spends too much time on other topics. Ditto for Aaron — annoying as he is, I can’t really seriously argue he’s being paid to crank out Hasbara. If he is, somebody’s not getting their money’s worth.

    So to credibly be one of the true minions of Satan, I’d say our poster needs to (a) be giving us at least superficially effective propaganda, and (b) concentrating on it. Presumably, he moves from site to site, firing off more or less stereotyped bits of patter, then moving on, returning again after some interval. Does anyone fit that bill?

    I strongly suspect we may not rate any Hasbarists. The strategy is probably to let us play here, and concentrate on making sure less ideological venues remain uncontaminated. If this were a city, we’d be the hard-core ghetto where even the cops don’t go. They’re concentrating on keeping the shopping mall safe for mothers and children.

  51. @Colin Wright

    They are trying to make you a Zionist plant because your not going along with the cabal theory.
    You have to be a Muslim to really understand it. Islam has to have a big full on Zio evil takeover to validate jihadist and Islamic fanaticism, to take their minds off of what a bunch of losers they are.

    Islam is insanely jealous of Zionism, The Jews on the ascent, Islam in decline. It rattles them.
    You are not a believer so it goes way over your had. Similar to Gilad. He is not religious either.

    But if you a believer like AS, you need to search Jewish scripture with a microscope to find evil lurking. For them from the beginning of time we have been planing to take over the world.
    Oddly enough from someone who was raised in an orthodox family, went to Yeshivas, the first I have heard of the cabal (takeover the world) is hear on UR. Not a whisper when I was growing up.

    Wouldn’t I have heard about the conspiracy by now? Where to meet ? who to talk to?
    We were also never told that a we were superior. I grew up post Holocaust with survivors.
    We just wanted to go to baseball games, eat hot dogs and pretend it didn’t happen.
    We were just glad to be here in the US. The survivors did everything they could to fit in. I don’t think they were thinking world domination. Just saying.

    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  52. Kali says:
    @Just passing through

    Fran has often said that she’s here to debunk “Gilads’ lies”. She then goes on to make all of the accusations which Gilad addresses in this article.

    So either she’s laying low whilst she consults her rabi or hasbra commanders on how to attack these very clear assertions of truth on Gilads’ part… or been banned… or …

    Time will tell. But her silence is most suspicious.

    Kali.

  53. Kali says:
    @Fran Taubman

    A much bigger mystery is why you have nothing to say regarding this articles refutation of your lies regarding Gilad, Fran.

    Has your rabi not yet told you what to think about what’s been writen here? Or is it that you are now convinced you’ve been wrong all this time but you’re too embarrassed to admit it?

    Kali.

  54. @utu

    I suppose he could just he LARPing as a Jew.

    But ultimately this website is quite small in readership and 90%+ of the people here are aware of Jewish identity and it’s consequences on Gentile society. So it is possible that melpol is just here flexing on us Jew-woke goyim, while saving his Hasbara for elsewhere.

  55. @Fran Taubman

    We thought you would no longer be on the Radar after you said “I Am Done”.
    But here you are again after not keeping your word?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  56. @BDS Always

    Just done with you and your nonsense.
    I don’t deal with conspirators about Jews.
    A descent into madness. Relegated to a fringe few.
    I have better things to do. In the beginning I thought you were a normal anti Zionist with rational ideas to debate.
    You are a clown. With zero intellect. Your posts are cartoons from medieval times. Nothing new.
    Jewish conspiracies date back to 1500. Yo are a parrot.

    • LOL: BDS Always
    • Replies: @BDS Always
    , @Truth3
  57. @Fran Taubman

    We just wanted to go to baseball games, eat hot dogs and pretend it didn’t happen.

    Seventy- five Jewish Hot Dog stands in USA, listed by state

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_memorials_and_museums_in_the_United_States

    Tax payers pitch in for Mustard & Ketchup:
    “For FY 2018 the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) requests $54,000,000, a decrease of $2,999,500 below the FY 2017 enacted level of funding.May 26, 2017”

    • LOL: Saggy
  58. Jake says:

    Gilad Aztmon is a hero in these days of ‘soft’ totalitarianism that rules the entire Western world.

    • Agree: mark green
  59. Jake says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Assuming that my analysis is correct, nothing anyone writes here can be used against him since this website officially Does Not Exist.”

    There is humor even when we are looking down the barrels of guns wielded by those who intend to end speech they oppose so they can defend free speech.

  60. Jake says:
    @Fran Taubman

    How do you know he is not on anyone’s radar?

    For police dealing with drugs, foe example, often those on their radar the longest and most deeply (meaning, the police want total secrecy about the matter) are those they wish to take down hardest and most thoroughly, destroying them in one major blow.

    How do you know that the Mossad and CIA are not working on that right now for Ron Unz?

  61. ‘… How do you know that the Mossad and CIA are not working on that right now for Ron Unz?’

    It’s possible they are — but there’s an argument for not doing it.

    Right now, Ron nicely confines himself to the fringe. He also draws in a lot of folks who might be more irritating if they didn’t spend so much of their time playing in this particular small pond — me, for example.

    Wouldn’t it cause more harm if I were forced by the absence of any more receptive venue to fit in attacks on Israel wherever I could on more mainstream sites? I do make myself do that occasionally — but perhaps not as much as I would if the Unz Review weren’t here.

    Then, too, Ron appears to technologically savvy enough and financially well-equipped enough to make taking him out a fairly expensive, prolonged, and potentially embarrassing project.

    Surely the time and energy could be better spent herding the erring among more mainstream sites back into line and taking out the small operators — my playlists and such are littered with links to the purged.

    So while you could be right that a Night of the Long Knives is being prepared for Ron, it’s also plausible that it’s been decided that getting rid of him would (a) consume a disproportionate amount of resources, (b) be likely to backfire, and (c) be of dubious utility in any case.

  62. @Fran Taubman

    Richard and Andrew Johnson discuss Greg Felton’s book, The Host and the Parasite. An extraordinarily important book that traces America’s slide into fascism and
    subservience to a foreign power.

    Felton argues persuasively that three groups have converged and come to dominate American policy for the benefit of Israel: the neoconservatives, the Republican evangelicals (Christian Zionists), and Jewish Zionists. He backs up his analysis with over 800 footnoted references to government, scholarly and media sources.

    Felton refutes the traditional progressive view that Israel is merely a client state of America. If this is so, he asks, how has America come to pursue policies that are so utterly contrary to their own national interest while being so highly beneficial to its junior partner?

    Felton also refutes the theory that ‘it’s all about oil,’ arguing that the First Persian Gulf War was the last American oil war and that the Second Persian Gulf War ignored the interests of American oil companies, increased American oil costs and reduced American national security. How could this have happened? The Second War, he demonstrates, can only be adequately explained by the take-over of American foreign and domestic policy for the benefit of Israel.

    https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=277&part=1&gen=99

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  63. Gilad,

    It has been difficult to get my mind organized for a response to your article. Right off the bat I would say your article is a classic display of Jewish victimization. You know like when you talk about victims of the Holocaust, and what a religion it has become. The attacks on you are not a case of mistaken identity. What me? you say. I don’t advocate burning synagogues? LOL Gilad. Even avid antisemites like scum bag Max Blumenthal have accused you of anti semitism amongst many other prominent Jew haters.

    As I have stated time and time again, I have never criticized Jews or anyone else as a people, a race, an ethnicity or a biology. I challenge my detractors to produce a single reference in my work that contradicts this. No one has ever produced the goods. In my work there is no hatred whatsoever, against Jews or anyone else. Many years ago, I accepted that some Jews regard me as a ‘self hater’ yet, I fail to see how me hating myself is so unsettling for other Jews.

    It would be a very fair assessment to say at the least you are aiding and abetting the worst Jew haters on the planet. Look at your followers, which can be divided into three categories: Hard core Jewish conspiratoral Rothschilds/Federal reserve broken record theory. The white nationalist turned Neo Nazi’s. The third being the religious Muslim extremist/Jihadist. All three love-love you and are devoted to your every word.

    You also profile criminal Jews on your FB page. ( You might want to stop that habit for your musical career just saying). Identifying their criminal behavior as Jewish behavior. You have stated that Jeffery Epstein’s pedophilia was caused by Jewish parenting, which you claim leads to all kinds of sexually deviant behavior. Not quite burning a synagogue, but none the less you hit a home run on the IHRA definition of an antisemitism.

    * Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews. N

    Lets line up your side of the argument against the Jews. and compare it to the people who want to stop you. And try and reason this out:

    Gilad’s accusations against the Jews/Judaism

    Jewish behavior causes Jew hatred. Jews are chosen and racist and have a superiority complex thereby raising the ire of non Jews who you call goyim or Shabbas goyim. You hate tribalism and want Jews to give up the chosen supremacist and join the human race.

    The Jewish accusations against Gilad

    Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred. The origins of Jew hatred are from the seething hostility of Jews towards the Catholic church for turning Jesus who was born a Jew and died a Jew into an idol worshiping Demi god along with his virgin mother and Roman father. None of which was claimed by Jesus when he was a live (Jesus’s most important prayer being the Shema the declaration of one god). The reciprocal Jew hatred from the Catholic Church for the Jewish murder of Jesus and their rejection of him as the Jewish Messiah.
    The Catholic church in order to gain acceptance and followers cast the Jews as satanic. The Pharisees. The pharisees are coming. Oh no!!
    Early Roman Catholicism vs. Judaism was a horror movie by both sides.

    The Christian/ Jew hatred has been healed. Islam has taken over the modern form of anti semitism. Verbatim. Jews are evil, satanic who kill and torture of Palestinians and their children. The return of the Satan is part of our collective DNA.

    You embrace the Palestinian cause and their depiction of the blood thirsty racist chosen Jews.
    You claim the early Zionist were secular and Israel was not meant to be what it became.
    One of your more stubborn blindsided idealogical traits is your refusal to understand that time does not stand still. Your discussions are the same drone beat from the beginning of time till the present Secularism is being rejected world wide. The early zionist could not imagine WW2 and the ensuing rejection of the Zionism by Islam. Time and Jew hatred do not stand still.

    Here we have it. There is a war of ideas. You predict another Holocaust if Jews do not drop their tribal ways. How did you think the Jewish collective would react to you? You used to love the antisemitic label and attention. Now you cry foul.

    I keep telling you the forces against you are not about Jew power or the suppression of free speech. It is about the rejection of your ideas about Jewish identity by the vast majority of the Christian/ Hindu/ non Muslim world. Your views of Judaism are raw racism cloaked in intellectual hubris. A manipulator pandering to a dangerous Muslim ideology that the West finds antithetical to democracy and Western values.

    You dishonestly promote the defeat of Israel and the demise of Jews for your own narcissistic need to support your books and ideas. Like a grand philosopher. Athens vs. Jerusalem.

    
Ironic that you and your fellow Jew haters are not Muslims trashing Islam. If you were Muslim there would be a bigger outcry then picketing your music venues. What a cry baby you are.

    My dear If you were Muslim talking your shit against Muslims, the Mullahs would be issuing you fatwahs. Remember Theo Van Gough and his film Submission a documentary about Islam’s treatment of women. He was knifed down in Amersterdam, by a Muslim religious fanatic. When an Iranian Mullah issued a Fatwah against Salaman Rushdie he spent years in hiding. Lucy you you are trashing Jews. Stop complaining.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film_director%29

    • Replies: @Kali
  64. @BDS Always

    Antisemitism has no rational basis in empirical fact, is wholly ideological and yet simply will not go away. Worse than that, the Internet and militant Islam are causing an ominous new wave of antisemitism with deeply disturbing implications. The best parts of Goldhagen’s book make this clear. The challenge is to find nuance and scruple, complexity and level-headedness in his overall judgements.

    This is less of a problem in Felton’s case, because his argument lacks even the semblance of sound argument or maturity of judgement. There is a strange pair of disclaimers on the opening page of The Host and the Parasite, of a kind that immediately makes one wonder what both the author and the publisher are trying to guard themselves against.

    The first, headed “Disclaimer and Reader Agreement”, reads, in part: “…Bad Bear Press and the author make no representations as to accuracy, completeness, currentness, suitability or validity of any opinions expressed in this book. Neither Bad Bear Press nor the author shall be liable for any accuracy, errors, adequacy, or timeliness in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.”

    The second, headed “Reader Agreement for Accessing This Book”, reads: “By reading this book, you, the reader, consent to bear sole responsibility for your own decisions to use or read any of this book’s material. Bad Bear Press and the author shall not be liable for any damages or costs of any type arising out of any action taken by you or others based upon reliance on any materials in this book.”

    In a lifetime of serious reading, I have never seen the like of this. Rather than implicate any of you, my own readers, in this strange farrago, I recommend that you not read Felton’s book. It is not worthy of your time or attention and should be allowed to moulder, unread, wherever physical copies exist. Alas, it is representative of a prolific and pernicious literature, both in print and on the web. It embodies what so alarms Daniel Goldhagen and constitutes the kind of evidence that might be adduced in extenuation of Goldhagen’s regrettable tendency to over-state his case.

  65. Kali says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You forgot to link to the source of your quotes, Fran.

    You also forgot to properly identify them as quotes. Oy vey!

    https://aijac.org.au/australia-israel-review/biblio-file-the-puzzle-of-antisemitism/

  66. Kali says:
    @Fran Taubman

    What me? you say. I don’t advocate burning synagogues? LOL Gilad. Even avid antisemites like scum bag Max Blumenthal have accused you of anti semitism

    So, Gilad has never, advocated for the burning of synagogues,
    but even anti-semite scum accuse him of being an anti-smite, therefore the accusations of synagogue-burning stands?

    It would be a very fair assessment to say at the least you are aiding and abetting the worst Jew haters on the planet.

    To suggest that advocating for an appraisal of identity politics, Jewish Power and and appreciation of the Athens v. Jerusalem dichotomy is “aiding and abetting” jew-hate (the worst on the planet, no less) whilst strenuously avoiding engaging with what Gilad actually says displays a weakness of character and of interlect that’s all to prominent in most of your comments on this site.

    If you don’t want to engage with Gilads actual philosophies and writings, fair enough. But don’t pretend you know what they lead to having never examined them.

    Hard core Jewish conspiratoral Rothschilds/Federal reserve broken record theory. The white nationalist turned Neo Nazi’s. The third being the religious Muslim extremist/Jihadist. All three love-love you and are devoted to your every word.

    Wow!
    Where are the white nationalist cum neo nazis or the Muslim jihadists who love-love Gilad and are devoted to his every word, Fran?
    I guess I missed their input on these threads.

    As for the “hard core” jewish conspiracy theorists (Rothschilds, Federal, reserve, etc) I guess I fall into that category, but I can’t say I’m devoted to Gilads every word. If I were I’d probably be a Lot Less hard-core than I actually am. – Again, you ought to thank Gilad for helping to balance and temper my reading of our overall historic situation. I dare say I’miss not the only one.

    In other words, Gilad is an actually asset to your community – or would be if that community would actually open-up and engage with his assertions, philosophies and ideas rather than condemning him out-of -hand.

    You have stated that Jeffery Epstein’s pedophilia was caused by Jewish parenting, which you claim leads to all kinds of sexually deviant behavior. Not quite burning a synagogue, but none the less you hit a home run on the IHRA definition of an antisemitism.

    * Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews. N

    I don’t follow Gilad on Facebook (I guess I don’t love-love him enough. – Or maybe I find FB to be a less and less relevant/useful platform) but I would love to see your assertions in context! (I know from experience you have a very bad habit of twisting what others actually say to your own ends.)

    Nevertheless, many have argued, and evidenced, judaisms’ (historic and biblical) treatment of women as sexual chatal, as well as Jewish predominance in the porn industry, so it’s not as if Epsteins’ evil empire was born in a cultural vaccume is it?

    That he worked for tiny little “israel”, the ever-so -vulnerable Jewish state, in order to provide blackmail material to its victim/leaders… material which involved the obscene sexual exploitation of children, once again has nothing to do with his jewishness…. etc.

    The rest of your comment, Fran, if you don’the mind me saying, is a stream-of-consciousness rhetoric with no basis in reality and no intellectual substance.

    Arguing against the vacuous contents of your mind is akin to punching fish in a barrel – pointless.

    If only you would actually engage with what Gilad actually says we might be able to move the discussion along. But your insistance on speaking for him, then countering what you say he says is mind-bending.

    I do like that your now blaming Muslims for anti-sham-itism rather than Christians. Maybe one day you’ll start to look a little closer to home.

    Regardless of what goes on in your addled mind, I wish you a good day,
    Kali.

  67. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Anti-semitism as a concept was created by the Jews… to be used as a smear tactic to shut up those that know what Jews are and do.

    Jewish crimes and tactics cause people to reject Jewish tactics, and condemn Jewish crimes. So? The Jews call that person an Anti-semite.

    Nobody hates Jews for being a religion. You all can go to Hell just fine as far as we are concerned. If you wish to embrace Christ, you will realize how much a gutter religion Talmudism is… but I’m not holding my breath.

    It’s what YOU JEWS do here on earth to hurt others that makes us angry with you.

    Started long before you killed Christ, by the way. Read the OT.

    It is right for good to hate evil. It’s natural. It’s correct. Stop being evil as a Tribe, and the hatred goes away. But it is correct nonetheless.

  68. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Watch your back Ron… Frannie is just unhinged enough to do a Baruch Goldstein on you and anyone nearby.

  69. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Another Frannie-ism… she gives Yogi Berra a run for the money. But Yogi wasn’t a Jew, so we know who wins that race. A Mammonite.

    Here it is…

    I don’t deal with conspirators about Jews.

    So, put your head up your ass Frannie… and sing nanananananana…

    We are not the conspirators. The Protocols describe who are. And as Henry Ford said… it fits what is happening.

  70. @Fran Taubman

    ‘… This is less of a problem in Felton’s case, because his argument lacks even the semblance of sound argument or maturity of judgement…’

    Neither you nor your source appear to offer any criticism of Felton’s actual argument.

    The inference would be that you can’t. Is this correct?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Greg Felton
  71. @Colin Wright

    I will save the best for last, the source is listed at the bottom. I googled Paul Fenton and could find nothing but one review, I had a hard time finding it again. Paul Fenton calls for genocide. Listed from his book below. A real beauty. BDS always is deep into Jewish psychosis.

    But the climax to his bizarre polemic is in his recommendation, which truly has to be read to be believed:

    “In an ideal scenario, the military would stage a coup, arrest the junta’s leadership, and set up a provisional government to oversee the drafting of a new Constitution. Such a military government could:
    • Institute a Nuremberg style war crimes tribunal to prosecute the leaders of the Lobby and the junta for treason and crimes against humanity
    • Declare null and void the Supreme Court confirmations of justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito and void all fascist legislation passed over the last six years, including the USA Patriot Act;
    • Call for a proper investigation into the September 11 attack;
    • Freeze and liquidate the assets of every Zionist Jewish and Christian organisation and place the proceeds into a bank account for distribution to Palestinians, Iraqis and Lebanese;
    • Declare military, economic and political war on Israel.
    Since the Constitution is, to all intents and purposes, null and void, citizens already have little or no protection against anti-democratic measures like arbitrary arrest, indefinite detention, or warrantless search and seizure, so life under military rule would make little difference. In fact, armed insurrection would help close the gap between political appearance and reality and focus attention on the Zionist enemy within…”
    You will appreciate, I trust, from this passage not only what Felton really means about taking the red pill and going down the rabbit hole, but why he and his publisher inserted their sweeping disclaimers on the first page of the book. Not only is its scholarship grossly unreliable and its reasoning crackpot; but it is a direct incitement to sedition, insurrection, war and genocide.

    https://aijac.org.au/australia-israel-review/biblio-file-the-puzzle-of-antisemitism/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Greg Felton
  72. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Paul Fenton calls for genocide. ‘

    There’s nothing in the quote from Felton that calls for or even implies genocide. Learn to read.

    • Replies: @anon
  73. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Agree.

    Sounds like a solid, measured, even humane plan.

    Let it be done!

    Calling it a genocide gives an insight into the Taubman mindset. Applying that mindset to holocaust means the same hysteria and leap of logic turned enacting justice against offending persons – groups, ie Jews in Europe, is genocide.

  74. christine says:

    I find it completely baffling why Gilad Atzmon chose to become an Ex-Jew.

    I have far more respect for the ‘true Torah Jews’ of the world who completely oppose and reject Zionism and its hateful supremacist outlook and by Atzmon becoming an Ex-Jew and his writings about Jewishness is a bit of kick in the teeth it seems to those non supremacist Talmud rejecting Jews who it seems feel no need at all to renounce ‘Foundational and pure Judaism’ and being a Jew and for this perhaps Atzmon deserves some (or even all?) of the backlash he suffers due to him unwittingly stirring the pot of hate for all Jews by his becoming an ex Jew so needlessly ?.

    I am genuinely not a Jew and I say be a Jew and be proud of being a ‘true Jew’ and child of god unlike the ‘pseudo Jews’/zionists and children of the devil

    Read what the commandments in the Torah say’s pseudo Jew Zionists and if you break the rules of the club then you had better believe that you are excluded from that club until you grow up a little and are ready to act like how you are meant too, to be considered a child of god and true Jew.

    Some may argue that being a Jew is a cultural thing as well as religious but if there was no Torah would there be Judaism or Jewish people because after all they were both birthed on Mt Sinai when Moses had his DMT(dimethytryptamine)connections with god?.

    .

  75. Greg Felton says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Just how ignorant can you be? All my arguments are supported. I defy you to prove one that isn’t. Standard publishing boilerplate should not be taken as mitigating the accuracy of my writing. I suggest people DO buy my book (from Amazon) to make up their own minds free from your prejudice. You attacks on the “maturity” of my argument do speak to a balanced analysis from you.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Kali
  76. Greg Felton says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Good grief!! You can’t even get my name right! Two mistakes! Sure speaks to your credibility.

    Your liberal use of ad hominem is the best endorsement I could have because it clearly shows you have no argument. Are you an apologist for Israel desperately trying to defend the indefensible?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  77. Greg Felton says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, Colin. it is. It’s a chronic problem with the likes of Fran Taubman, though they can never admit it.

  78. @Greg Felton

    ‘…Are you an apologist for Israel desperately trying to defend the indefensible?’

    Give that man a prize.

  79. @Greg Felton

    It was not my words. The words of Paul Monk. You have no credibility amongst the real world. No review. No comments about you.
    How many books have you sold like 4.
    Anyone calling for a fascist takeover of American, suspending the constitution and installing military control should be locked up and the keys thrown away.
    It’s not that your argument is bad or good or we can tit for tat.
    It is more like you are a fucking nut job.

    I don’t have to defend Israel, she can defend herself.

    • Replies: @anon
  80. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    It is more like you are a fucking nut job.

    slaaaam dunk.
    I’m persuaded.
    Such a powerful argument, how can anyone not be convinced.

    As for:

    I don’t have to defend Israel, she can defend herself.

    Indeedy-doo, with a little help from her, um, friends:

    Fran Taubman says [direct quote]: “Jews are scamming and bilking the system in seeking help to defend themselves.
    All in a days work.”

    You may be interested to know that Marshall Breger, former Special Assistant to the President for Jewish Affairs, agrees with you: Jews do a lot of philanthropic giving but much of it is tainted with tax dodges and scams. All in a days [sic] work.

    nb. How do you know for sure that Israel, home of the world’s largest population of queers, is a her?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Greg Felton
  81. greg felton says: • Website

    Israel CANNOT defend itself. It is run by cowards that get the US to do its wet work. If it were not for the sycophantic, treasonous White House and Congress, Israel would have been justifiably destroyed decades ago.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  82. @anon

    That is a lie you scum. I never said that. I was quoting what someone was accusing Zionist of doing.
    My all in a days work was defending Jews against these pernicious claims which are lies.
    What a POS

    • Replies: @anon
  83. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    hahahahahahaha

    Imagine.
    Someone using a media outlet to cherry-pick a quote, or quote it out of context.
    How does it feel?

    btw: the reference to Marshall Breger saying that Jews engage in philanthropies but also frequently use philanthropies as tax dodges and scams is 110% accurate and on the record.

    also notice that you can’t seem to make a comment without using obscenities or personal attacks / name calling.
    Is that your intellectual heft at work?

  84. Greg Felton says: • Website
    @anon

    Well said, @anon. What Taubman said is demonstrably accurate, her predictable denial notwithstanding.

  85. btw: the reference to Marshall Breger saying that Jews engage in philanthropies but also frequently use philanthropies as tax dodges and scams is 110% accurate and on the record.

    You are such a Sherlock Holmes anon(508), I am sure you will find many many non Jewish philanthropist engaged in the same tax scamming behavior.
    Jews are no different then any other people in the world, and it is a racist endeavor blaming Jews a collective for the criminal behavior or a few.

    People who engage in doing so are racist. There are different levels of racist, some really clever racist where I have to do work to suss out their lies, unlike you, a classic low IQ racist who are engaged in stupid and childish behavior like a child in a clown suit.
    I call all the low IQ racist POS. Anon (508) to scared acquire a real identity is a real POS.

    • Troll: Kali
    • Replies: @Greg Felton
  86. @Fran Taubman

    But Jews are not a race. The only people who think so are Nazis and Zionists, which isnot surprising since they are both the poisoned fruit of the tree of fascism.

    Also, one is born into a race. It cannot be abdicated. Since Gilad Atzmon renounced his Jewshness, he cannot have renounced his genetic makeup. Jew denotes a religious affiliation, not a racial one. If someone converts to Judaism, do they need to be genetically modified?

  87. @greg felton

    ‘Israel CANNOT defend itself. It is run by cowards that get the US to do its wet work. If it were not for the sycophantic, treasonous White House and Congress, Israel would have been justifiably destroyed decades ago.’

    Israel’s about as capable of an independent existence as a tapeworm is.

  88. Greg Felton says: • Website

    Well, they both suck the nutrients out of the host and starve it to death.
    At least a tapeworm is natural. Israel is not.

  89. Kali says:
    @Greg Felton

    Greg, Fran copy/pasted “her” review of your book from an Australian Jewish website which took seconds to find via internet search.

    On reading that typically biased review, my own curiosity regarding your book was roused. Hopefully your sales will go up thanks to Frans’ plagerism. .?

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Greg Felton
  90. @Kali

    Thanks. Kali.
    Zios like Fran don’t care how stupid they look as long as they serve the Empire. Reason and honesty are not considerations.

    • Agree: Kali
  91. Johan says:

    “I contend that politics ought to unite us as equals rather than divide us on the basis of biology.”

    Awesome contemporary modernized ‘enlightenment’ slogan, philosophers come in different qualities too:

    “Democracy, a delightful form of government, anarchic and motley, assigning a kind of equality indiscriminately to equals and unequals alike.” – Plato

    Thus, on a non biological basis, we are already divided into inferior and superior, adding to it a scale of in betweens. To ‘unite as equals’ in a democratic setting means to say that you will be governed by mediocrity, of which the level is below any acceptable standard of intelligence, unless you are a mediocre. Now what sort of people desire to be ‘united’ with mediocrity, i.o.w., desire to be treated as mass man? Only mediocre and subjugated man, the latter being forcibly enslaved by the multitude who make up the mediocrity, or, pardon me, democracy.

    Key point here is that originally the idea was to unite as brothers. Where the brothers are by no means equal, it signified that the one should not suppress and subjugate the other, which is exactly what happens in the system which has the creed of equality as its fundament..

  92. Johan says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    ” this prepared the ground to my work on Controlled Opposition”

    Everyone and his cat these days entertains controlled opposition ideas, and then there are those who are now beginning to start to entertain ideas that those who expose controlled opposition are actually controlled opposition to controlled opposition. And so then after all nobody knows anymore who to trust, so then they started to expose as controlled those who expose controlled opposition of the controlled opposition.
    Finally this might go so far that they all make their own individual blogs and theories splitting up in minor factions, writing about how they exposed each other, formulating their own theories, even earning a living with it. While in the meantime, the neo-liberal front, other than having a few dealings with each other now and then nicely formed a huge block on the basis of the ability to collaborate for the sake of a common purpose, namely: wealth and power, while meanwhile the opposition was busy with the exposing, which then turned out to be a controlled exposing in order to divide and break the power of the opposition.

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