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On July 9, we learned that Pfizer planned to ask U.S. and European regulators to authorize an urgent booster dose of its COVID-19 vaccine, “based on evidence of greater risk of infection six months after inoculation and the spread of the highly contagious Delta variant.”

On the same day we also learned that the FDA and CDC weren’t very enthusiastic about the idea. In a joint statement both institutions announced that “Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster COVID-19 shot at this time.”

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) also said that “it was too early to determine whether more than the two shots that are currently required would be called for, saying it was confident for now that the established regimen was sufficient.”

It was revealed later that day that Pfizer’s emergency booster request was initiated following some catastrophic data from Israel.

Searching for a clue in Hebrew media sources, I came across a spectacular revelation dated 6 July that showed around 85% of new COVID Delta infections in Israel are fully vaccinated.

The above data suggests that while in the youngest age group (20-29) the vaccinated were about 2.3 over-represented amongst COVID infection cases. In some of the older age group (50-59 for instance), the vaccinated were overrepresented by even more than 15-fold. We should take into consideration that in Israel most senior citizens are fully vaccinated. And yet, since in Israel only 57% of the population is fully vaccinated, one would expect the balance between Delta cases in Israel to be shared by a rate that doesn’t exceed beyond a 6:4 ratio between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.  Clearly this is not the case. On average, according to the data above the vaccinated are more likely to catch delta by a ratio of 5:1 on average.

Being slightly suspicious of the above data and its origin, I asked my Israeli partners to trace an official government document that could confirm the above numbers. Within a few minutes the Israeli Health Ministry announcement for July 6  surfaced in my email inbox and it validates the above finding.

The most significant information is produced by the following table.

The above study reveals that while in February 2020 (31/1-27/2) the unvaccinated dominated the COVID cases by a ratio of 20:1, six months later in June 2020 (6/6-3/7) it is actually the vaccinated who are prone to be infected by a ratio of 5:1. It is the vaccinated who happen to develop symptoms by a ratio of 5:1. It is the vaccinated who are more likely to be hospitalized and develop critical illness. If Israel was a ‘world experiment,’ as Benjamin Netanyahu presented it at one stage, this experiment is now turning into a disaster (at least for the vaccinated). In Israel, the vaccinated are becoming infected at a growing rate and as such are spreading the virus rather than stopping it. We also have a good reason to believe that the rest of the Western world will witness a similar pattern as it has followed the Israeli vaccine doctrine.

People like to fiddle with statistics and draw the conclusions that suit them. If only 11 out of the 1271 vaccinated cases develop critical illness, we are dealing with slightly less than 1% of the vaccinated developing critical illness. At the same time more than 2% of the unvaccinated develop critical illness. Yet, since Delta cases are 5 times more common amongst the vaccinated as time passes by, I may suggest that we are facing a possible emerging disaster as far as the Pfizer-vaccinated are concerned.

I guess that Pfizer scientists understand all of this very well and this is why they asked for an immediate booster approval.

(Republished from Gilad Atzmon by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I look forward to seeing the cited references, the data, and/or Mr. Atzmon’s insights refuted, if they can be

    Again, I said refuted. Not dismissed, scoffed at, dissembled — refuted.

  2. Miro23 says:

    Yet, since Delta cases are 5 times more common amongst the vaccinated as time passes by, I may suggest that we are facing a possible emerging disaster as far as the Pfizer-vaccinated are concerned.

    I guess that Pfizer scientists understand all of this very well and this is why they asked for an immediate booster approval.

    A fascinating piece of research on Israeli data. If Atzmon is right, and this really is the unexploded bomb that he claims, then western governments are facing the same medical (and political) disaster, but on a much bigger scale.

    • Replies: @aj54
    , @guibus
  3. Aside from everything else, this makes vaccine passports literally idiotic. Even if they personally are less likely to die, the vaccinated will be functioning as carriers of the disease. Creating Typhoid Marys becomes the mandated response to the virus.

    • Agree: meamjojo
  4. @Greta Handel

    ‘Again, I said refuted. Not dismissed, scoffed at, dissembled — refuted.’

    How about shunted off to Unz Review and kept out of the mainstream?

    Our civilization is beginning to remind me of the dying Ch’ing and Ottoman Empires — so sclerotic that the response to the evidence of failure tends to be to suppress the evidence rather than address the failure.

    • Agree: Anon62
  5. Zumbuddi says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Creating Typhoid Marys becomes the mandated response to the virus.”

    Feature not bug.

    • Agree: Adam Smith, Alfred
    • Replies: @4Truth
  6. @Colin Wright

    Our civilization is beginning to remind me of the dying Ch’ing and Ottoman Empires — so sclerotic that the response to the evidence of failure tends to be to suppress the evidence rather than address the failure.

    It’s not actually dying, it’s being euthanised by our benevolent prospective Globalist overlords, ready for the birth of a new civilisational paradigm where the likes of creepy Bill and the Davos crowd will rule the entire planet with an iron fist, and we will all “own nothing and be happy” (those few surviving, that is).

    [MORE]

    It’s quite clear that all the relevant regulatory agencies around the world who should be calling BS on the entire Corona Chan hoax have been captured and are playing along in lockstep with the WEF script.

    This reference to the EMA says it all:

    The European Medicines Agency (EMA) also said that “it was too early to determine whether more than the two shots that are currently required would be called for, saying it was confident for now that the established regimen was sufficient.”

    … “the established regimen was sufficient” for what exactly?

    pFizer’s mRNA “vaccine” clearly doesn’t stop the infection or spread of Corona Chan, and why should that be a surprise to anyone given that the American CDC and the “vaccine” manufacturers have freely admitted this from the outset?

    It’s plain as day from the data and not even materially disputed by the manufacturers themselves, the “vaccines” are quite plainly useless as a countermeasure for the “pandemic”.

    So what exactly is their true purpose? We don’t need to know the answer to that question to realise that whatever purpose they may have is not for our benefit.

    Yet all the relevant regulatory agencies, medical beauracracies and governments across the Western clearly don’t give a rat’s arse about that. They’ve all been politically captured by the Davos crowd and dance to their tune, not ours.

    If we hope to get out of this with any level of freedom and democratic liberty, entire governments and beauracratic establishments will have to fall and heads will literally have to roll by the tens of thousands around the world.

    If the vermin aren’t exterminated and are left to regroup, they will only come back stronger the next time around.

    • Agree: Josh Kenn, aj54
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  7. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Gilad, did you manage to avoid getting vaxxed over there? If so, are there mandated restrictions on how you’re living your daily life as a result? Thanx for the great updates/articles.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  8. Below the second graph, Mr. Atzmon refers to the vaxxed vs unvaxxed in 2020. As the vaccine was not yet available then, I assume he means 2021. Or am I missing something?

  9. willem1 says:

    I personally believe that the degree of protection provided by the vaccines has yet to be determined (or even demonstrated). That being said, the above statistics all by themselves don’t really tell us much. Making specific declarations about effectiveness is much more complex than this simple article implies.

    Picking this apart would be another longish article in and of itself, but for starters:

    1) What percentage of the population at large is vaccinated? How does that compare of the percentage of patients that are vaccinated?

    2) Do the behaviors of the vaccinated differ from the behaviors of the unvaccinated? One example: Are vaccinated people being less careful due to their belief that they are “protected”, and therefore exposing themselves more readily to infection? Another: Did a larger number of unvaccinated people decide to skip the vaccine because they already had COVID and concluded they did not need it due to their acquisition of natural immunity?

    Trying to make something out of this one set of statistics is vastly oversimplistic.

  10. @follyofwar

    I’m sure he meant 2021 and it’s a typo or mistake. I had the same question. Yes, Moderna had their mRNA corona vax in the pipeline BEFORE a pandemic was declared (curious, isn’t it?), but the rollout didn’t begin until this last winter.

  11. @Ultrafart the Brave

    ‘It’s not actually dying, it’s being euthanised by our benevolent prospective Globalist overlords, ready for the birth of a new civilisational paradigm where the likes of creepy Bill and the Davos crowd will rule the entire planet with an iron fist, and we will all “own nothing and be happy” (those few surviving, that is)….’

    If only.

    Sadly, I disagree with you. I say ‘sadly,’ because however malevolent his ultimate intentions, a wise rancher doesn’t abuse his stock; we could look forward to being properly fed and watered, even if our final fate wasn’t too palatable.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s the case. These people are idiots. The appropriate metaphor is more like we’re in a school bus, careering madly down a mountain road, with chimpanzees fighting over the steering wheel.

    Consider US governmental and media policy at the moment. It is so unpopular, and so doomed to failure, that they actually had a go at distracting us with UFO’s. That fizzled, and now we’re back to ginning up near-wars with Russia and China. Anything to keep people distracted…

    There isn’t a plan here. Nothing workable anyway. All that can happen is that at some point, the bus goes off the side of the road.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  12. Toza says:

    Mr. Atzmon, is it possible not to get vaccinated in Israel, to avoid the vaccination altogether?

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
  13. A123 says:

    Are there behavioural and/or environmental differences between vaccinated / uncomfortable vaccinated populations? Possibilities include:
    — Personal health risk factors
    — Contact with high risk individuals
    — Working & commuting conditions (e.g. densely packed buses)

    The information presented points to the Pfizer vaccine having little stopping power versus the Delta various.

    I would want to see more detailed information before taking the next step to vaccine increasing vulnerability to Delta:
    — If this is taking place, what is the mechanism?
    — A broad based immune problem would show up as increased vulnerability to other diseases in addition to Delta. Is this occurring?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Anon62
  14. @Colin Wright

    The appropriate metaphor is more like we’re in a school bus, careering madly down a mountain road, with chimpanzees fighting over the steering wheel.

    Thanks for that comforting image.

    I don’t dismiss your position – it seems to me that the American Empire (encapsulated by the “5 Eyes” Team America ® plus a globally distributed network of obedient vassals) is on the cusp of collapse.

    [MORE]

    What remains to be seen is if it will go out with a bang, or just quietly dissolve and disappear over a painfully drawn out period like the Roman Empire.

    Meanwhile, a century or two of a Eurasian-centric world dominated by a mercantile China looks more and more likely. If it eventuates, one might hope that it lives up to its multipolar projections and yields relative peace and prosperity for all involved.

    But getting back to Team America ®, whatever collapse was underway has been accelerated by the likes of creepy Bill and his psycho cohort, aiming at a crisis inflection to spawn Klaus Schwab’s “Great Reset” and a dystopian future for all of us that would make even George Orwell blush.

    That planned scenario will only apply to those countries that have been foolish enough to play along, so the WEF will fail in its objective to conquer the world – at best, they’ll subjugate what up to this point has been the globally distributed American Empire. If that happens, we’ll have a world bifurcated between a multipolar Eurasian community and whatever is left over dominated by a bunch of satanic technocrats, characterised by the likes of creepy Bill and Uncle Klaus.

    Being a helpless lemming trapped in an American vassal state, I sincerely hope the people come to their senses and the Great Reset will fail. A slow civilisational collapse is not necessarily a bad thing, if the opportunity to productively and peacefully engage with the rising power is permitted. Being forcefully injected with bioweapons labeled as “vaccines”, collectively microchipped and subject to complete totalitarian rule by unelected eugenic technocratic sociopaths, not so much.

    At this juncture, your simian punch-up at the steering wheel comes into focus – there are rival factions who all seem to think that they’re in control. The Globalists and the Neocons come to mind, but there are probably others hidden from view. Lord only knows just what the current American regime thinks it is doing.

    Whatever the case, especially given the encouraging prospects of China’s world vision with their inclusive BRI, I think I would prefer plain old natural disintegration of Team America ® than to wake up living in a real life implementation of 1984 or The Hunger Games, with creepy Bill’s face on every television screen, forever.

    • Agree: Tsar Nicholas
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  15. If two shots leave you more and not less vulnerable to the variant how dumb would you have to be to get a third shot? If the vax is worse than the virus who needs global warming? There is a humerus aspect to this if you, like me, are a misanthrope.

  16. nickels says:

    unfortunately its less deadly (tho the original was mostly a nothing burger).

  17. Raches says:

    A Catastrophe Unveils Itself

    Shoah, there. Did you say Catastrophe?

    Perhaps your wordplay may be too subtle. Well, it would be ironic if Israelis were so obsessed with their persecution complex that they inadvertently Holocausted themselves.

    BREAKING NEWS: The Pfizer vaccine was created by Nazi doctors led by Josef Mengele. (Proof: The name “Pfizer” looks sort of German! Also, I am an eyewitness.) If you deny this true fact, then you shall be imprisoned for years in “liberated” Germany, as Snopes authoritatively debunks your denial. Help fight the spread of racist and antisemitic misinformation on social media by extremists and domestic terrorists! Report to the FBI anyone who denies that the Pfizer vaccine was made by Nazi German Nazis for the purpose of exterminating the Jews People of Jewishness. If you see something, say something!

    • LOL: Tsar Nicholas
  18. Darb says:

    Is it a stretch to interpret “delta” spread post vaccination as actually a result of the vaccination and that the ‘detection’ of ‘delta” is the same PCR smoke and mirrors trick used since January 2020? Making the problem here entirely that of the injection.

  19. A123 says:
    @A123

    I am beginning to think that Autocorrect is my mortal foe.

    vaccinated / uncomfortable vaccinated

    Should obviously be:

    vaccinated / unvaccinated

    Where did the entire extra word come from? This is bizarre even for Autocorrect.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  20. @Anon

    I am not vaccinated,,,and in a very good shape , however it ain’t easy … traveling to concerts is becoming pretty difficult and consuming…

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  21. @Toza

    At the moment only 57% of the Israelis are fully vaccinated … 4% took the first jab but never continued… I actually think that we will have to look closely into the israeli case in the next few months …

    • Replies: @Toza
  22. @follyofwar

    Yep,,, it was a mistake ….I corrected it on my site …Tx so much ,,,,

  23. @Ultrafart the Brave

    ‘…What remains to be seen is if it will go out with a bang, or just quietly dissolve and disappear over a painfully drawn out period like the Roman Empire…’

    It’s interesting that you cite the Roman Empire. I’d say we’re entering something akin to the Third Century crisis.

    …and the Empire will be restored. But here’s the depressing bit: what will be restored won’t be what was there before — any more than it was in Rome. Left or Right, it’s not going to be nearly as pleasant as what we once had. You can say adios to the moral scruples, the tolerance, the breadth of vision, the willingness to engage in reasoned debate, the humanity…

    The boot’s coming down. I want it to be my boot — but I don’t kid myself that we’re going to be able to make everything all better. Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall. We can shoot the bastards who pushed him — but that won’t solve the problem.

  24. @willem1

    ‘I personally believe that the degree of protection provided by the vaccines has yet to be determined (or even demonstrated). That being said, the above statistics all by themselves don’t really tell us much. Making specific declarations about effectiveness is much more complex than this simple article implies.’

    Doesn’t that imply the virus wasn’t much to worry about in the first place?

    If you take some medicine, and you can’t decide if it actually helped, maybe you weren’t all that sick to begin with.

    • Agree: Tsar Nicholas
    • Replies: @willem1
  25. I see two possibilities here;

    1. The first two doses wreck the immune system making the person susceptible to invasion by a new virus such as Delta. This is basically what happened to the ferrets.

    2. There is no Delta variant, its all bullshit, and it is the vaccine itself that is making people sick.

    • Agree: Adam Smith, JasonT, Alfred
    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  26. Typo in your article in the paragraph under the second table. You say 2020 when you mean 2021.

    Thanks for the article.

  27. willem1 says:
    @Colin Wright

    I agree, but that’s kind of a different discussion.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  28. @Colin Wright

    Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall. We can shoot the bastards who pushed him — but that won’t solve the problem.

    No – but it’s a start.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  29. @Ultrafart the Brave

    ‘Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall. We can shoot the bastards who pushed him — but that won’t solve the problem.

    No – but it’s a start.’

    Gratifying, anyway.

    Unfortunately, my suspicion is that this is precisely where we’re headed: people shooting people.

    …and since almost inevitably, our views won’t line up precisely with those doing the shooting, that means adios freedom. ‘Keep yo’ little moufus shut!

    I mean, it’s already partially gone — but time for that final writ and decree.

    There’s a scene in the German Eighties (?) film Mephisto. The film begins with the German film world of the twenties. When the Nazis come to power, the opportunist does quite well, but the early Nazi true believer — the loon everybody was laughing at in 1925 — is finally led off and shot.

    The New Order isn’t going to be pretty. I want it to be Right rather than Left — but I’ve no illusions about its probable moral complexion.

  30. Skeptikal says:
    @willem1

    “One example: Are vaccinated people being less careful due to their belief that they are “protected”, and therefore exposing themselves more readily to infection?”

    This is ridiculous. Is it satire?

    Why should the vaccinated be “less careful”? Why shouldn’t they socialize normally once jabbed twice?

    Where in the world did they get their crazy belief that they would be “protected” by a “vaccine” and they would be able to start to live normally again? After all, they were told the jabs were worthless by TPTB!!! The premises of this comment are an acknowledgment that the jabs are indeed worthless and everyone should have realized that and continued to hide out in the cellar.

    In that case why get the jab? Why not just continue to hide out in the cellar, and forego the hazards of the jabs?

    Earth to Willem:

    A vaccination is supposed to prevent infection and disease, kill the virus, prevent transmission (because nothing left to transmit, duh). This comment shows the extent to which basic rational thinking is on hold when it comes to covid-19. Similar “logic” showed up in another Unz thread on the covid topic.

  31. Skeptikal says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Do you have to be tested constantly in order to be able to go anywhere, or enter a building?

    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @Gilad Atzmon
  32. Skeptikal says:
    @willem1

    No, it is exactly the same discussion.

    Why take the shot if you are still scared of getting sick afterwards?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  33. JasonT says:

    This is the game. Shoot people up to give them a toxin and make them susceptible to toxins and then advise more shots when they get sick from the toxins. The endless shoot ’em up is therefore ensured until the chip is implanted and total control is realized.

    Don’t get the shot. Put your faith in your own immune system (i.e., that which God designed for you) and take care if it with good sanitation, hygiene and nutrition.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  34. @Skeptikal

    ‘Why take the shot if you are still scared of getting sick afterwards?’

    Why take it? So that you can fly, attend college, keep your job…

    It’s like joining the Party in Stalin’s Russia. To get along, go along.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @hillaire
  35. @JasonT

    ‘…Don’t get the shot. Put your faith in your own immune system (i.e., that which God designed for you) and take care if it with good sanitation, hygiene and nutrition.’

    I’d readily take the vaccine — if the disease in question posed a serious threat in the first place.

    That’s the thing. Quite a bit of this would be perfectly logical if we were discussing the Black Death.

    …but we’re not, are we?

    • Replies: @JasonT
  36. JasonT says:
    @Colin Wright

    The black death was caused by poor sanitation (mainly), poor hygeiene and poor nutrition.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  37. Anyone know how Sputnik V is doing in this regard? Those goddamned evil motherfuckers knew the side effects of mRNA with their phoney efficacy rates all the while banning Sputnik and threatening sanctions for any entities considering the Sputnik alternative. See? Nakedly and openly, in our faces, the forces representing the few at the expense of billions of people did this without a clue how to cover up what they’ve done. Now to see if the grass roots proles who got their jabs put together 2+2. How’s that gonna feel knowing you folded, took the jabs, forced your kids to take the jabs, dooming ALL of you? I wanna see the Houdini factions in the media escape this one.

    And I never thought I’d see a bigger assassination story bigger than President John F. Kennedy.

    • Replies: @Tom67
    , @Rahan
    , @MarkU
  38. @Skeptikal

    Earth to Skeptical:
    The covid vaccines are not supposed to do any of the things you suggest. Not one of them. I’d explain, but you wouldn’t understand.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @MarkU
  39. @Colin Wright

    There are those who’ve been saying for quite a while that the vaccine is the point of all of this … to get folks vaccinated in order to push the agenda.

    This could get interesting … and very dangerous for millions across the globe.

  40. @Skeptikal

    A vaccination is supposed to prevent infection and disease, kill the virus, prevent transmission (because nothing left to transmit, duh).

    Yes, a vaccination is indeed supposed to prevent infection and transmission of a disease – in other words. a vaccination is supposed to immunize the recipient.

    Now here’s a news flash for anyone who hasn’t been paying attention – the American CDC and all the “vaccine” manufacturers freely admit that their vaccines neither stop infection nor transmission of Corona Chan.

    These “vaccines” were never designed to do that – they were only designed to “reduce symptoms”, and that’s all their trials were designed to evaluate, before they were unleashed on an unwitting public.

    [MORE]

    Now you might say that’s crazy because it’s so illogical, so it just can’t be true. However, that is the inconvenient but undeniable truth.

    Our governments, medical beauracracies and media establishments seem to be just as happy as the “vaccine” manufacturers to let everyone assume that these Corona Chan “vaccines” are really vaccines, so that everyone will line up for their injections. But they are not vaccines, because as you correctly stated, “vaccination is supposed to prevent infection and disease, kill the virus, prevent transmission”, and the Corona Chan “vaccines” do not do this at all.

    Paul Craig Roberts would probably describe this widespread blind faith in the Corona Chan “vaccines” by so many people as “cognitive dissonance”, where the reality is so different to what people want to believe, that they simply cannot deal with it and ignore the truth.

    Once the truth that the Corona Chan “vaccines” are not vaccines, and they don’t immunize people at all, is recognised and accepted, then some of the strange things about the “pandemic” start to make sense – including the matters broached by Mr. Atzmon in this very article.

    As to the larger picture of what is actually going on, I would recommend taking the time to listen to what the German lawyer Reiner Fuellmich has to say about it. The relevant links already appear multiple times in other threads, but are reproduced here as a courtesy.

    Reiner Fuellmich Outlines the Case For Corona Chan Crimes Against Humanity
    (This is a PDF transcript which is readily downloadable)

    https://www.aeginagreece.com/aegina-island/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Transcript-testimony-Reiner-Fuellmich-.pdf

    Dr. David Martin & Dr. Reiner Fuellmich – The Genesis of Corona Chan
    (Three links to the same video, just in case any of them go offline)

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html

    https://www.brighteon.com/a569c7c9-9572-47ed-ba3c-130b0c13aa55

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  41. Toza says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Thank you for your quick reply.
    Keep up with the great work!

    • Agree: Gilad Atzmon
  42. @Colin Wright

    A ‘civilization’ with no purpose but to make money and accumulate it by stealing it from others, is akin to an aggressive cancer-inevitably it kills its host, in the West’s case both ‘society’ and the natural world that sustains our existence. I’m certain we won’t make 2050, unless the Chinese take over, but 2030 is starting to look dodgy, too.

    • Replies: @aj54
  43. Tom67 says:
    @Jim Christian

    Sputnik V is an adino virus based so called vector vaccine. Like Astra Seneca but supposedly better. Nevertheless my 47 years old healthy brother in law died 1 week after getting the second shot

    • Replies: @Half Back
    , @Tsar Nicholas
  44. Rahan says:
    @Jim Christian

    Anyone know how Sputnik V is doing in this regard? Those goddamned evil motherfuckers knew the side effects of mRNA with their phoney efficacy rates all the while banning Sputnik and threatening sanctions for any entities considering the Sputnik alternative.

    The West is currently using 4 vaccines:
    a) RNA serums Pfeizer and Moderna
    b) Adenoviral vector shots Astra Zeneca and Johnson & Johnson

    Sputnik V is i the same family tree, tech wise, like Astra Zeneca and Johnson and Johnson, and produces comparable “under the weather” symptoms after the shot and the same overall effect. India also has one of those, called CoviShield. The Ukraine uses it because it can’t use Sputnik for political reasons.

    So, if a non-globohomo country tries to get Astra Zeneca and double Johnson type vaccines, but they are too expensive or waiting for their turn takes too long–they place an order on the Russian Sputnik V and or the Indian Covishield. Same vector vax tech, different source.

    If one wants an actual trad vaccine that is the full virus but inactivated, as opposed to some piece of spike protein or a program command to the immune system to reorganize itself for great justice, then one chooses the Chinese vaccines Sinopharm and Sinovac. Russia and India also make the trad dead virus vax, but don’t really export it. They only export the “fancy modern vector” type.

    Belarus offers Sputnik V tourism–if a European wants a non-globohomo jab. The tiny euro state of San Marino also used its non-EU status to instantly vaccinate itself with Sputnik V and also offers it to tourists now.

    Most places in the world that can afford it, use multiple source vaccines: western serums + Russian + Chinese + Indian. The members of the “euroatlantic” globohommo citadel use only the proscribed Pfeizer and or Moderna and or Astra Zeneca and or Johnson & Johnson. With very few exceptions, such as Hungary, which made bilateral deals and uses everything.
    https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/country/hungary/

    By using western, Russian, Chinese, and Indian vaccines at the same time, Hungary is now the most vaccinated country in Europe (not counting micro-states like San Marino or Malta)
    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/

    It’s on the same level of vaccination like Israel, the UK, and the US, but through using a wide choice of vaccines, as opposed to Israel, the US, and the US.

    Countries which due to political conflicts or alliances can’t use the Russian vax (Chile, Ukraine), use the Chinese vax and the Indian vax, but only the core globohomo countries plus their allies such as Saudi Arabia use only Pfeizer or only Astra Zeneca, etc with no Russian vax, no Chinese vax, and no Indian vax.

    With thus currently have three groups:
    1) Those who are still behind with the vaccinations
    2) Those who are ahead in mass vaccination, but with only 1-2 types of globogomo vax
    3) Those who are ahead in mass vaccination, but with only 1-2 types of Asian and Eurasian vax
    4) Those who are ahead in mass vaccination, but with diversity of vax types

    We’ll soon see what works out how, as long as the censorship isn’t too total.

    At the time of writing, vaccination is mandatory for everyone in only three places: Central Asian satrapies Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, and… the Vatican. (which likely only confirms certain views about today’s Vatican for some people)
    https://www.statista.com/chart/25326/obligatory-vaccination-against-covid-19/

    Turkmenistan is using two Russian vaccines and negotiating with China; Tajikistan is using Astra Zeneca plus a Chinese trad vax, and the Vatican–only adrenochrome. No, sorry, typo, only Pfeizer.

    • Thanks: Skeptikal, Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Tom67
  45. @JasonT

    “The black death was caused by poor sanitation (mainly), poor hygeiene and poor nutrition”
    It was caused by a bacteria — the rest helped it succeed.

    • Replies: @JasonT
  46. So we have charts listing infections. How about illnesses? And why are asymptomatic people being tested anyway? Oh, that’s right, it’s free. How many “asymptomatic” people would get tested if they were told to come on in, and bring your $145 with you.

  47. JasonT says:
    @animalogic

    I know that bubonic plague is caused by a bacterium, which presents as flu-like symptoms. The Black Death was a specific mass die-off event, which would not have happened with poor sanitation, poor hygiene and poor nutrition (therefore the latter three are the cause of the Black Death). We have lived every day throughout history with a myriad of pathogens (including the bacterium that causes bubonic plague) and other toxins. Our bodies are designed to deal with that. But if we abuse our bodies and our environment, then some or other pathogen or toxin will take advantage of that resulting in a mass culling like the Black Death.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  48. @willem1

    Trying to make something out of this one set of statistics is vastly oversimplistic.

    Perhaps, but if your car is speeding towards a brick wall, you don’t jump out to do mineralogy tests to determine if your car might pass through it. You apply the brakes.

  49. Anon62 says:
    @A123

    The machanism may involve evolutionary pressures.
    The virus is not a static element but is contiuually evolving new variants.
    These variants demonstrate different characteristics reflected in changes in transmissibility, changes in lethality / severity etc.
    The present vaccines address the virus as it existed at one point in time. Viral replication will result in viral variants that are unaffected by vaccine prophhylaxis. These new variants will therefore spread within the human population until they become the dominant form. The prior variants will become evolutionary “dead ends” and will cease to be present.

    What typically occurs is that as the pandemic progresses the variants trend toward a higher degree of transmissibility (they more easily infect the target population and therefore become the dominant form within that target population) and a lower degree of lethality (the lethal vaiants kill off the host, die with the host, and therefore are eliminated from the evolutionary pool).

    The lay interpretation of this is that COVID-19 should, over time, trend toward becoming a “medical nuisance” like the common flu and less of a critical threat to the population.

    The figures being presented suggest the possibility that some characteristic of the vaccinated indivividual results in an increased vulnurability to new virus variants – that the variants may be exploiting some characterics created by, or associated with, the vaccine.

    I am not a virologist or greatly knowledgeable in evolutionary biology / epidemology so an individual with a better background in the science may wish to correct any lay misunderstandings contained in the above hypothesis.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  50. Skeptikal says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well, yeah.

    But that was not the line of thought of the original comment I responded to.

    The line of thought was medical, not practical—caving in to compulsion to get along.

    So this is basically a non sequitur.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  51. Skeptikal says:
    @Badger Down

    The fact that they are “not supposed to do any of things” I “suggest” is the point, dear Badger.

    They are not vaccines. It is the Patent Office that has determined what is a vaccine and what a vaccine is supposed to do. And the Patent Office lists those three benchmarks.

    Not me.

    This is why they rejected Fauci”s two applications for patents on mRNA jabs. They were not vaccines.

    It is incredible that Big Pharma have been able to get away with calling these jabs vaccines.

    Per Dr. Robert Malone there is a separate designation for “gene therapy vaccines”–separate from plain “vaccine,” which is a traditional vaccines. Per Malone The FDA has a different testing checklist for such shots, a longer one—but this checklist was not followed.

    You can cram your snarky little comment about my “understanding” you know where!!
    Have a nice day!

  52. Skeptikal says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Thanks!
    Glad to see some common sense around here on this issue.

    BTW, I just read this—a sidelight on a larger story:

    “. . . On Sunday, her [[Khalida Jarrar’s]] daughter Suha was found dead, apparently from cardiac arrest. Suha’s body was found about five hours after her death, after her sister in Canada was unable to reach her by phone and asked friends to break into the house.. . ”

    I wonder whether Suha had been jabbed.

    Here is the whole disgusting story, by Gideon Levy, of the treatment of Jarrar:

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-israel-should-have-treated-khalida-jarrar-with-humanity-1.10000031

  53. @Greta Handel

    Fifty comments so far, with no refutation of Mr. Atzmon’s cited sources, reported data, or insights.

    • Replies: @A123
  54. @Skeptikal

    I am not sure ,,but because I flew in from Greece a gig in the UK last month meant 10 days quarantine 4 tests … I prefer not to tour at the moment …

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  55. 4Truth says:
    @Zumbuddi

    “Vaccines” are a bio-weapon, working as intended.

  56. Fr. John says:

    Planned Genocide.

    “If we do a good job on vaccines, health and reproduction, we can reduce the world population by 10-15%. Only a genocide can save the world”.
    That’s right ….Bill Gates.

    Crimes against Humanity. May God defend the Right.

  57. MarkU says:
    @Jim Christian

    I read on RT that a 3rd dose of Sputnik V was on the cards, at least in Moscow, because of the rising number of cases and fatalities. I don’t think that is encouraging. It appears that all of the new style ‘vaccines’ offer questionable and/or short lived protection and at significant risk.

    • Thanks: Jim Christian
  58. MarkU says:
    @Badger Down

    The covid vaccines are not supposed to do any of the things you suggest.

    I think you have inadvertently blurted out the truth.

    You have just stated that the Covid vaccines are not supposed to prevent infection and disease, kill the virus or prevent transmission. Isn’t that exactly what the ‘conspiracy theorists’ are saying? What point are you trying to make?

    • Thanks: Skeptikal
  59. @Anon62

    I think you are right. This Delta variant, though more transmissible is even less lethal. All the rest is just hype.

    • Replies: @Half Back
  60. Altai says:

    And yet, since in Israel only 57% of the population is fully vaccinated, one would expect the balance between Delta cases in Israel to be shared by a rate that doesn’t exceed beyond a 6:4 ratio between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.

    That doesn’t track at all. The efficacy of the vaccine is not complete and older people with weaker immune systems are still much more likely to be symptomatic and thus both get a covid test and be hospitalised.

    It also assumes that the risk profile of behaviour between those vaccinated and those who aren’t is the same. It won’t be. People will engage in risk compensation, (And more likely inappropriate risk compensation due to a belief that their vaccine was effective or that others were effective or through not giving enough time after vaccination) particularly groups like Hassids who so openly welcomed vaccination as a means to get back to their usual social/religious life that has proven so effective at spreading covid both in Israel and in the US.

    If 100% of the most vulnerable (In reality, cohorts who made up almost entirely the cases hospitalised) have been vaccinated then you would still expect them to make up the majority of those put in hospital because the vaccine doesn’t always work at rates high enough to make sure they’re still the majority and because even in those in whom it does work, their response could still be severe enough to go to hospital.

    • Replies: @MarkU
  61. A123 says:
    @Greta Handel

    Fifty comments so far, with no refutation of Mr. Atzmon’s cited sources, reported data, or insights.

    Various sources will concur that the Pfizer vaccine is limited against Delta.

    The author seems to be jumping ahead of the data asserting that there is a negative impact from the vaccine, however this:
    — Does not mean that the hypothesis is wrong (refutation)
    — It merely means that the hypothesis remains unproven

    Inflicting damage that widely increases susceptibility is very different than simply being ineffective.
    _____

    The question that has not been addressed so far — Would someone, with the necessary scientific background, please provide a detailed mechanism on how a Coronavirus vaccine might make an individual *more susceptible* to Coronavirus?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Anon62
  62. Skeptikal says:
    @Gilad Atzmon

    Terrible.
    At this point there is no prospect of traveling to and from Europe.

    It looks to me like the UK is descending quite quickly into a dictatorship or something resembling it. Dictatorship of twits.

    Brian Gerrish and Mike Robinson at the UK Column give an overview of I think 8 pieces of legislation coming up for parliamentary votes in the near future and they all make one’s blood run cold. Not only the intent of the bills, but the Orwellian language they use.

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-14th-july-2021

    They provide all of their links as documentation, as you can see.

  63. Skeptikal says:
    @A123

    A lot has been published online about this phenomenon.

    Pathogenic priming.
    Also, paradoxical immune enhancement phenomenon.

    Look them up.

    Briefly, and oversimplifyingly, mRNA vaccines target only a very specific gene sequence.

    If, later, the jabbee encounters the same or a similar virus in the wild, the antibodies created by the action of the mRNA vector can’t recognize the new enemy and fight it off.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7142689/

    • Thanks: A123
  64. aj54 says:
    @Miro23

    The US is still putting out fictitious claims about the infection and mortality rate of the variant, and urging “moar vax!” especially to children, who are basically at 0% risk. They are covering up these outcomes in the vaxxed for the sake of corporate profits. And possibly to the glee of global eugenicists.

  65. aj54 says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I would give it a couple more years, maybe to 2034 or 5

  66. MarkU says:
    @Altai

    I don’t agree with your risk aversion point at all, indeed I would argue the very opposite.

    The people most frightened by the virus, most happy with mask wearing and least likely to attend public gatherings are the same people that were most eager to be ‘vaccinated’. Or to put it another way, the people who choose to decline ‘vaccination’ are obviously people who are less likely to consider the virus a risk and hence more likely to exhibit ‘risky’ behaviour. I live in the UK not Israel btw but in both countries ‘vaccination’ rates are amongst the highest in the world and adult ‘vaccination’ status in both countries is almost entirely a matter of choice.

  67. Anon62 says:
    @A123

    Possible mechanism for increased susceptibility hpothesis:

    1) mRNA vaccine involves the injection of foreign (i.e. unknown to the subject being treated) mRNA.
    2) This mRNA causes the subject’s body to create the protein associated with the SARS-CoV-2 “spike” feature.
    3) The victim’s immune system recognizes this new protein and activates to defend against it and neutralize it.
    4) This neutralization is successfully accomplished
    5) The victim’s body now “recognizes” the new protein and is primed to defend against it
    6) On encountering “real world” SARS-CoV-2 spike protein the victim’s immune system is better prepared to address and neutralize it with the result the victim is unaffected by the virus or less affected than they would be if unvaccinated.
    ————–
    My lay hunch (and human beings have thrived for eons depending on nothing more than their hunches) is that something goes wrong between step 3 and 4. Instead of being primed to defeat the foreign protein the victim’s body recognizes the new protein as something it created, that it is not a foreign entity but is a commonplace domestic home brew event like the thousands of other proteins hormones and effluvia found in the human corpus.
    The outcome of this response may result in the victim’s immune system failing to fight the virus when it is found in the “real world” with the outcome of an increasing severity of the viral infection.

  68. Even if I am forced to ignore cheap but “untested” treatments like HCQS and Ivermectin, I am still forced to ask a simple question: why no one is paying any attention to simple solutions like changing the pH value of the throat; from what little I could observe around me, those with bad habits like chewing tobacco, or the oriental betel leaves, are also not much among the seriously ill. This should trigger some curiosity among the doctors. I think that changing the pH value of the throat helps control the virus. Many here (in India) now keep a few grains of black pepper, or cardamom, or cloves, in their mouth and they say it is working.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  69. Tom67 says:
    @Rahan

    My sister in law in Mongolia is a family doctor. Mongolians hate China and Chinese. Nevertheless she unequivocally states that the Chinese Sinovac shot (attenuated live virus – vaccine made the traditional way) has no side effects. But the fancy western and russian ones all do. If you are forced to take a shot and have a choice choose the Sinovac one

    • Replies: @Rahan
  70. hillaire says:
    @willem1

    Are vaccinated people being less careful due to their belief that they are “protected”, and therefore exposing themselves more readily to infection?

    the level of imbecility in this sentence alone requires one disregards anything this imbecile may have to say…

    though he may of course be a comedian.. riffing on the fact that the experimental gene therapies are making the proles ‘poorly’ and that term includes ‘rich’ peasants as well, they to0 have been ‘targeted’….

  71. @Skeptikal

    ‘So this is basically a non sequitur.’

    It goes without saying that unless you’re elderly and in poor health, getting the vaccine is somewhat worse than pointless, medically speaking.

  72. hillaire says:
    @Colin Wright

    …and the Empire will be restored. But here’s the depressing bit: what will be restored won’t be what was there before — any more than it was in Rome. Left or Right, it’s not going to be nearly as pleasant as what we once had. You can say adios to the moral scruples, the tolerance, the breadth of vision, the willingness to engage in reasoned debate, the humanity…

    Haha my apologies, I thought for a moment there that you were talking about the yankee asylum…

    the one north of mexico.. but then I realised that one of us had made a terrible mistake..

  73. hillaire says:
    @Colin Wright

    You wont be doing much partying if you are a cognitive vegetable…

    far better to get get friends (enemies waiting to happen) and family (unavoidable imbeciles) jabbed first, then massage some fake ‘stats’ into you your ‘risk assessment’…

    voila.. you could get a ‘position’ with the CDC (think of all that ‘flying’ and privilege’.. as long as you avoid a vegetative outcome)…

  74. utu says:

    Is it possible that the vaccinated are more susceptible to the virus or its new strain than the unvaccinated? That would be an extraordinary hypothesis that would require a special attention to data particularly when we are dealing with small numbers. Numbers are small because infections rate in Israel in May and June is very low.

    First, the numbers need to be age adjusted and normalized. Age profiles among vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are different. Second, the numbers are relatively small so they do not represent spatial distribution of the epidemic in Israel. It is possible that there are clusters in which unvaccinated-to-vaccinated ratio does not represent the national ratio which means that then the normalization would not do its job. What if the vaccinated and unvaccinated came from two separate clusters?

    Are the data in the 2nd table valid? I checked in worldometers.info infections for two periods: (2/5-5/6) and (6/6 -3/7) and they are two about times higher than what is the sum of the 4th and the 8th columns in the 2nd table.

    It is interesting that the author and some commenters display a mentality of hyenas who really want the vaccination program to fail just so they could claim “I told you so”. They would kill their mother or son just for a bragging right. Pitifully pathetic bunch.

    • Replies: @RMM
    , @Dumbo
  75. So the Israeli’s are killing Israeli’s instead of Palestinians?

    Where’s the the tragedy?

  76. Skeptikal says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    Last year it was reported that smokers had lower infection rates, or illness rates or something.

    Most scoffed at that, including me, but maybe there was something to it. Not that I think anyone should start to smoke for that reason.

    I agree that we really could look more closely at boosting the surfaces of mucous membranes that are the front lines where the innate immune system in deployed to knock out any interlopers as soon as they land.

    Now here’s a piece of quackery/crackpottery that will really drive our host crazy.
    But humming can’t be wrong, so why not give it a try?
    Humming one of your favorite hymns might be twice as effective! Start with “Amazing Grace.”
    Plus, didn’t your mother tell you to breathe through your nose????
    Actually, as singers know, humming creates vibrations throughout the head and chest cavity that also loosens any gunk in your lungs and brings to where you can cough it out and generally warms up muscles in the throat and the vocal chords.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12119224/

    “Humming greatly increases nasal nitric oxide”

    Abstract

    “The paranasal sinuses are major producers of nitric oxide (NO). We hypothesized that oscillating airflow produced by humming would enhance sinus ventilation and thereby increase nasal NO levels. Ten healthy subjects took part in the study. Nasal NO was measured with a chemiluminescence technique during humming and quiet single-breath exhalations at a fixed flow rate. NO increased 15-fold during humming compared with quiet exhalation. In a two-compartment model of the nose and sinus, oscillating airflow caused a dramatic increase in gas exchange between the cavities. Obstruction of the sinus ostium is a central event in the pathogenesis of sinusitis. Nasal NO measurements during humming may be a useful noninvasive test of sinus NO production and ostial patency. In addition, any therapeutic effects of the improved sinus ventilation caused by humming should be investigated.”

    Why NO anyhow?

    “The role of NO in COVID-19 and potential therapeutic strategies”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7754882/

    “Nitric oxide (NO) is a free radical playing an important pathophysiological role in cardiovascular and immune systems. Recent studies reported that NO levels were significantly lower in patients with COVID-19, which was suggested to be closely related to vascular dysfunction and immune inflammation among them. In this review, we examine the potential role of NO during SARS-CoV-2 infection from the perspective of the unique physical, chemical and biological properties and potential mechanisms of NO in COVID-19, as well as possible therapeutic strategies using inhaled NO. We also discuss the limits of NO treatment, and the future application of this approach in prevention and therapy of COVID-19.”

    There you have it!
    Have a nice day.

  77. The Deagle Report has the population of the US projected to be around 100 million by 2025. Approximately 230 million less or 70% less. Coincidental that Biden is calling for 70% vaccinated by July?

  78. @Colin Wright

    It’s interesting that you cite the Roman Empire. I’d say we’re entering something akin to the Third Century crisis…and the Empire will be restored.

    No, it won’t. Theres only one way these series of crises will end: With the collapse of America and its tenuous empire. The country itself will fall into chaos and Balkanize. There will be no restoration.

  79. Half Back says:
    @Tom67

    Condolences Tom.

    They have kept from you the real chances from which one can make a ‘informed choice. Thier is very little data on deaths from vaccines.
    The Uk which publish their date i found the following statics ( self calculated. )
    Astrazeneca 45 million doses
    Deaths 960
    You have one in a 46,875 chance of dying from the ‘shot’.
    Long term effects unknown.
    Pfizer 30 million shots
    Deaths 450
    You have a one in 66,666 chance of dying. ( im aware of the religious significance, funny is’t it)
    Long term effects unknown

    The shots i took the liberty of small rounding.

    I have advised my 15yr old boy not to take the vaccine as his his chance of dying from Coronavirus (unvaccinated) is roughly 2.5 million to one. This information is hard to come by and i forgot where i got it, however for age groups (teens) it is accurate.
    As the darhourse podcast said bio ethics, the major ones are kept from you. You cant give informed consent if they keep from you important statistics. They should not be scared to say this is a emergency release vaccine. So the chance of death of the vaccine for teen is much greater the threat of the virus- why are they pushing hard on groups which you could also add the group 20-30 yrs 0ld.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

    As of 30 June, an estimated 19.1 million first doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and 24.6 million first doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca had been administered, and around 11.2 million and 21.5 million second doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca respectively. An approximate 1 million first doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna have also now been administered.

    The estimated number of doses administered differs from the estimated number of people vaccinated due to the different data sources used.
    The MHRA has received 450 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 960 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, six for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.

    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
    , @aj54
  80. RMM says:
    @follyofwar

    Yes, it’s a typo. Obviously 2021.
    This is bad news indeed. And there is no use blaming the disaster on “Delta”: virus evolve all the time, and soon they’ll ne blaming “Beta”, “Kappa” etc., while vaccinating furiously, and even more furiously mandating vaccine passports and more lockdowns…

  81. Half Back says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    You right Reverend,

    and on page 17 you get deaths from delta- It way less virulent for deaths than say Alpha.

    Also note fully vac 2 shots deaths at 118, unvac 92 deaths, all deaths page 17

    SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under … – Gov.uk

    ..Search ‘Variants of concern VOC Technical briefing 18 (1)

    England. Technical briefing 18. 9 July 2021 … Table 1 shows the current variants of concern (VOC), variants under investigation (VUI) and those in monitoring.
    56 pages
    SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under … – Gov.uk pdf

  82. @Colin Wright

    The purpose of the wars is to have wars, the purpose of the covid is to have vaccines.

  83. RMM says:
    @utu

    “Is it possible that the vaccinated are more susceptible to the virus… than the unvaccinated? That would be an extraordinary hypothesis.”
    The hypothesis is not new: there’ve been many discussions about a vaccine-induced “Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) (an exaggerated immune reaction), which is “a major reason why many previous vaccine trials for other coronaviruses failed”.
    (1) This is from a November 2020 Petition to EMA to stop “clinical trials” of these “vaccine candidates” by Dr. med. Wolfgang Wodarg, a lung specialist at “Biontech Se”:
    This [Covid-19] vaccine-induced ADE phenomenon, Dr Wodarg write, “causes a generally dysregulation of the immune system that allows the virus to cause more damage to our lungs and other organs of our body.”
    “ADE has proven to be a serious challenge with coronavirus vaccines, and this is the primary reason why many of such vaccines have failed in early in-vitro or animal trials.”
    https://corona-ausschuss.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_30NOV2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf
    (2) Many other scientists and physicians have voiced the same concern, including the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon: “In the case of individuals receiving COVID-19 vaccines, ADE could not only end up enhancing disease severity but could also lead to organ damage.” 31/12/20 – COVID ‘vaccines’ are a medical experiment on humanity — Health & Wellness — Sott.net
    (3) Johns Hopkins’ Dr Naor Bar-Zeev and Dr. Tom Inglesby, who also worried about this ADE problem, have underlined as one of four specific qualities/pluses of Sputnik V, the fact that the Russian vaccine induces “a T-helper1-cell-weighted response that might be important for vaccine safety, potentially reducing the risk of antibody-dependent enhanced disease.” https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/testimonials/
    There are many more such articles, studies, and ignored or ridiculed warnings, petitions, objurgations and representations, all warning that most of these vaccines may make things worse…

    • Replies: @utu
  84. @Tom67

    I’m sorry to hear that. My condolences.

    There seems to be little solid data on the Sputnik V and I hear that in Russia, despite promises, Putin has quietly introduced mandatory jabs and QR codes.

    Do you mind if I ask in which country your late brother resided?

  85. Rahan says:
    @Tom67

    Sounds about right. But careful, man, this is borderline self-doxxing. Maybe in the future “a friend of a friend told me” or “I read on a Mongolian basket-weaving forum” or “a woman I barely know told me over pints after a swinging orgy”…

  86. utu says:
    @RMM

    Why ADE Hasn’t Been a Problem With COVID Vaccine (March 2021)
    https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91648

    “the relative newness of mRNA and adenoviral vector vaccines, these vaccines, in fact, have better safety profiles in terms of ADE than older types of vaccines”

    “The S protein vaccines are so much cleaner, so much more carefully defined, and so much lower risk. All you’re seeing is one protein from that virus. So the chances for ADE are much slimmer than with any of the older ways for making virus vaccines.”

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
  87. @JasonT

    “which would not have happened with poor sanitation, poor hygiene and poor nutrition”
    I suspect that that assertion is overly optimistic.
    Maybe – maybe the plague would have not been as wide spread, perhaps it may never have started…. though that’s even more optimistic.
    However the fact remains, absent antibiotics, the plague is an incrediblely infectious & fast acting disease.
    Any urban environment back then could have been a breakout point.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  88. meamjojo says:

    Searching for a clue in Hebrew media sources, I came across a spectacular revelation dated 6 July that showed around 85% of new COVID Delta infections in Israel are fully vaccinated.

    This is because the DNA/mRNA vaccines can only program the spike protein they let loose in the body for a specific variant config. So when a new mutation/variant appears, the vaccinated will need yet another booster and another booster and and another booster. All nice profit generating shots for the pharma industry!

    Here’s another story:

    Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?
    Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated – compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.

    David Rosenberg , Jul 13, 2021 9:24 AM

    Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.
    ….
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

  89. Dumbo says:
    @utu

    It is interesting that the author and some commenters display a mentality of hyenas who really want the vaccination program to fail just so they could claim “I told you so”. They would kill their mother or son just for a bragging right. Pitifully pathetic bunch.

    In this case, you’re the pathetic one. No one wants that. Even many people who are against the vaccines or at any rate just don’t want to take the “jab”, for whatever reason, have had at least part of their families or friends who took it. Do you think they wouldn’t care if something happened to them?

    In my case, many family members took the jab, and had no serious side effects. I hope it continues like that. And I hope that they are really protected, and that the vaccine ends this annoying pandemic thing. I don’t plan to take it anyway, not because of side effects, but because all this propaganda annoys the hell out of me and makes me more suspicious than safe.

    I think we have to wait for Winter to see how things stand. Summer 2020 was also quieter.

    So far, things are not looking so good. If 50% of the cases and dead of the “Delta variant” are among fully vaccinated people, if transmission is not stopped, if it doesn’t grant immunization, if you need to be separated from the “unvaccinated”, then what the hell is this vaccine protecting you from?

    Of course, if things go wrong and cases and deaths start climbing again next Winter, I am sure they will blame the “Epsilon variant”, or the “unvaccinated”… Even though it is still unclear how the “unvaccinated” would be a risk to the “vaccinated”, unless the vaccine didn’t work…

    What is also annoying is that people who lied or gave incorrect information never pay the price for their mistakes. People like Nail Ferguson and even here Karlin were screaming about “millions of dead just in America, billions in the world”. This didn’t really materialize.

    They were also touting a “95% LIFETIME efficiency” of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine; now, in “real life conditions” (LOL), it has been revised to 64%, and maximum of six months (they are talking already of booster shots in the Winter).

    And all this without mentioning the censorship, the attempt to avoid any kind of early treatment, or alternatives to the vaccine, the criminal early use of ventilators that killed mor than saved, the wanton destruction of small businesses with the lockdowns, the increase in teenage suicides… All these for policies that did not work…

    Was it worth it?

    Well, I guess for the rich and the powerful, “it was worth it”, in the same way that half a million dead Iraqi children “was worth it” to deranged criminal Madeleine Albright.

    • Agree: Alfred
  90. Anon[243] • Disclaimer says:

    You say catastrophe like it’s a bad thing. Focusing everyone on the toll of this toxic gene therapy diverts attention from the CIA origin of this banned biological weapon. Davis’ patent analysis exposes Bob Gates’ compartmented germ warfare program. We now have ample probative evidence for Kahabarovsk II.

    US vaccine deaths recently exceeded COVID deaths, so the the most urgent effect CIA’s crime against humanity is the corrupt and drastic response.

    • Replies: @metamars
  91. Skeptikal says:
    @animalogic

    Off-topic, but poor hygiene has been raised as a reason for the Black Death:
    ““which would not have happened with poor sanitation, poor hygiene and poor nutrition””

    Actually, people in Medieval Europe were not dirty and unhygienic. This assumption is refuted by a lot of evidence, both written and visual. There were a lot of public baths, and common people used them about once/week. Families would traipse from their homes to the public baths. Out in the feudal countryside this might of course have been different—most of the artworks depicting people in baths and accounts of how often common people bathed look like they are in urban settings. You can get plenty of information on this by doing a search for “bathing in the Middle Ages” or something similar. They also washed hands and faces.

    One search result:

    “Typically speaking, people bathed once a week during the Middle Ages. Private baths were extremely rare – basically nobody had them – but public bathhouses were actually quite common.”

    In fact, it looks like bathing dropped off in later centuries as a result of Protestant prudery. The Middle Ages were not that prudish. Also, I think Northern Europe had a more hygienic profile than Italy, Spain, etc.

    Here is the result of an image search for “bathing in medieval Europe”:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=bathing+in+Medieval+Europe&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ7qHC1efxAhUNFlkFHXgkAXgQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1396&bih=663#imgrc=vXfYDkU-2fD4tM

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Sparkon
  92. Skeptikal says:
    @Dumbo

    Thanks for the sensible response to the vicious whack job ootoo.

    For many, rejecting the jab has become a combination of precautionary principle and matter of conscience.

    To me it is absolutely incredible how people who would never knowingly consume any GMO foods and who spend extra dollars on organic vegetables and grass-fed beef are happily letting Big Pharma inject synthetic genetic material and who knows what else into their bodies. Stuff that can actually hijack their own physiological processes, plus replicate.

    What is going on here?

  93. @Skeptikal

    “In fact, it looks like bathing dropped off in later centuries as a result of Protestant prudery”
    That I can believe !

  94. metamars says:
    @Anon

    Why do you say “CIA origin”? I used to blame primarily Fauci for the gain-of-function research, via Eco Health, done in Wuhan; but then I learned that Eco Health got more money from the DoD than from NIH. However, I also wonder if Fauci is being used for a fall guy by the main perps, as certain lines of evidence point to a US origin. Such as 5 strains present in the US, only 1 in China.

    I think the main stream US media’s been silent about the DoD funding of Eco Health.

    Imagine the liability of the US government…..

    • Replies: @Tony Ryals
  95. utu says:
    @Dumbo

    What is also annoying is that people who lied or gave incorrect information never pay the price for their mistakes. People like Nail Ferguson and even here Karlin were screaming about “millions of dead just in America, billions in the world”. This didn’t really materialize.

    You are irrational.

    It did not materialize thanks to Ferguson predictions. His predictions were very simple. He did not need any sophisticated modeling: from IFR=1% and that 70% population may get infected before reaching herd immunity implies: 66 million * 0.7* 0.01 =460,000 deaths in UK and 320 million * 0.7* 0.01 =2.2 million deaths in the US. These numbers did not materialize because we had all kinds of countermeasures and mitigations and thus in the UK 129k died and in the US 600k died which is about factor of 3.5 less than the predictions for the unconstrained spread of the pandemic. Masking, social distancing and lockdowns worked. It could have been better like in New Zealand or Taiwan.

    Why are are you so irrational that you can’t think straight? Fortunately not everybody in your family is: “many family members took the jab”.

    • LOL: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  96. Anon[805] • Disclaimer says:

    Metamars, I say CIA because CIA commandeers DoD assets and facilities at will (that’s where that unauditable trillion-dollar black hole at the Pentagon comes from) and puts its most secret secret agents anywhere it wants in government. CIA also has impunity in municipal law, so it has the option of settling bureaucratic turf battles by killing some pukes. When people say the government, what they’re really talking about is CIA. They’re the ones in charge.

    • Replies: @metamars
  97. Polemos says:

    https://www.quodlibet.it/giorgio-agamben-cittadini-di-seconda-classe

    Not my translation but a friend’s:

    Second-class citizens
    As happens every time a despotic regime of emergency is established and constitutional guarantees are suspended, the result, as happened with the Jews under fascism, is discrimination against a category of men who automatically become citizens of a second class. This is the purpose of the creation of the so-called green pass. That this is a discrimination according to personal convictions [convinzioni] and not an objective scientific certainty is proven by the fact that in the scientific domain the debate is still underway as to the safety and the efficacy of the vaccines, which, according to the judgment of doctors and scientists whom there is no reason to ignore, were produced in a frenzy and without adequate testing.

    Despite this, those who abide in their own free and informed conviction and refuse to be vaccinated will be excluded from social life. That the vaccine is transformed into a sort of political-religious symbol aimed at creating a discrimination [una discriminazione] among citizens is evident in the irresponsible statement of a politician, who, referring to those who do not vaccinate, has said, without noticing he was using a fascist jargon: “we will purge them with the green pass.” The “green pass” constitutes those who are without it as bearers of a virtual yellow star.

    This is a matter of fact, the political gravity of which could not be overstated. What becomes of a country in which a discriminated class is created? How can one accept to live with second-class citizens? The need to discriminate is as old as society and certainly forms of discrimination were present even in our so-called democratic societies; but that these factual discriminations are sanctioned by law is a barbarity we cannot accept.

  98. metamars says:
    @Anon

    I don’t remember details, but I have no recollection, either, of Fletcher Prouty saying

    “CIA commandeers DoD assets and facilities at will ”
    or
    “that’s where that unauditable trillion-dollar black hole at the Pentagon comes from”

    Prouty was the model for the X character in Oliver Stone’s movie “JFK”. He was a laison between the Air Force and the CIA. I think he would have known about both your claims, which you assert, but don’t link to any evidence of said assertions.

    The Deep State, in general, seems to be hunky dory with the grossly dysfunctional ‘response’ to the pandemic, no matter how it originated. So, no gold medals for either the CIA, or the Pentagon.

  99. Sparkon says:
    @Skeptikal

    As for the bubonic plague, most authorities say it is caused by bites from fleas carrying the Yersinia pestis bacterium, and/or from aerosols exhaled by infected individuals. Good hygiene will not stop either of those modes of transmission, but please see my penultimate paragraph, below.

    There is evidence that once it came ashore, the Black Death was in large part spread by fleas – which cause pneumonic plague – and the person-to-person contact via aerosols which pneumonic plague enables, thus explaining the very fast inland spread of the epidemic, which was faster than would be expected if the primary vector was rat fleas causing bubonic plague.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

    Back to COVID-19 in the United States, the nation’s largest county, LA county, will reimpose indoor mask mandates beginning at 11: 59 pm on July 17, 2021 after daily case loads had increased to about seven-fold in the recent past during the 30 days since California “reopened,” and state health authorities decreed that masks were not required for those who’d been vaccinated.

    https://apnews.com/article/health-california-coronavirus-pandemic-3b893ce7a9dbbfaeb4eb6161edebf4e6

    According to the AP article, “The vast majority of new cases are among unvaccinated people.” However, the article goes on to note:

    Meanwhile, north of San Francisco, at least 59 residents at a homeless shelter have tested positive for the virus. Of those infected at the Santa Rosa shelter, 28 were fully vaccinated, Dr. Sundari Mase, Sonoma County’s health officer, said Wednesday.

    My opinion is that there’s still far too much that remains unknown about this virus, and also about the vaccines.

    Masking up, good hand hygiene, and social distancing still seem to be the safest, most prudent tactics to protect yourself and others against SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19.

    Be safe. Stay well.

  100. aj54 says:
    @Half Back

    the CDC website released the update to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) covid vax stats to say that there are now over 9000 reports of death and over 438k adverse events reported in the USA

  101. guibus says:
    @Miro23

    It’s not a disaster for them, the western governments, it’s just working as planned, at least for the cabal, not the kosher goyim who serve them.

  102. anonymous[776] • Disclaimer says:

    Nous trouverons quelque chose ou le provoquerons, une pandémie qui cible certaines personnes, une crise économique réelle ou pas, un virus qui touchera les vieux ou les gros, peu importe, les faibles y succomberont, les peureux et les stupides y croiront et demanderont à être traités. Nous aurons pris soin d’avoir prévu le traitement, un traitement qui sera la solution.

    La sélection des idiots se fera ainsi toute seule : ils iront d’eux-mêmes à l’abattoir.”

    [ L’avenir de la vie – Jacques Attali, 1981 ]

    This is a quotation from a book by a well-known french dual citizen who served as advisor to Mitterand,Chirac,Sarkozy,Hollande and was involved with the way-up;to the presidency of Macron.He is a bit of a futurologist and personality “behind the screens”.For those not understanding french language i translate:

    “We will find something or provoke it,a pandemia that is aimed at certain persons,a real or unreal economic crisis,a virus touching the old or the obese,it matters little,the weak will succomb to it,the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask for treatment.We will have taken care of providing the treatment,a treatment that will be the solution.The selection of the idiots will be automatic:they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own consent.”

    It’s odd though that it’s in Israel that this is most obvious now.

    • Replies: @utu
  103. Dumbo says:
    @utu

    It did not materialize thanks to Ferguson predictions.

    “Help! If we don’t make a global lockdown, pink elephants will take over the Earth!!!”
    “There are no pink elephants…”
    “Yes, not anymore. So glad the lockdown worked!”

    Bye bye bitch!

    • Replies: @utu
  104. @Dumbo

    Thanks for laying out a simple and common sense assessment of the Corona Chan “vaccination” campaign.

    No knowledge of Uncle Klaus’ Great Reset pronouncements or creepy Bill’s outright ownership of the WHO and his eugenicist agenda even required.

    Just the plain facts on the ground don’t pass even the most tolerant smell test.

    If 50% of the cases and dead of the “Delta variant” are among fully vaccinated people, if transmission is not stopped, if it doesn’t grant immunization, if you need to be separated from the “unvaccinated”, then what the hell is this vaccine protecting you from?

    Even the most basic logic would be compelled to conclude, the only thing that being “vaccinated” protects anyone from, is being unvaccinated.

    So “vaccination” is the objective of this campaign, and not the means to stave off any virus, for which the “vaccines” confer no protection whatsoever.

    It’s at this point that inquiring minds begin to ask, just what is the purpose of injecting every lemming on the planet with an artificial poison of unknown composition and effects, which creepy Bill’s Moderna already had ready to go before the Corona Chan “pandemic” was even announced by the WHO?

    As Michael Yeadon has ominously stated, there’s no benign answer to this question, and nothing that speaks to the benefit of the world’s teeming common folk.

  105. utu says:
    @anonymous

    Posts falsely claim leading French economist Jacques Attali discusses depopulation in a book
    https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-falsely-claim-leading-french-economist-jacques-attali-discusses-depopulation-book

    Coronavirus : Non, Jacques Attali n’a pas prédit, en 1981, une « pandémie » destinée à « réduire la population »
    https://www.20minutes.fr/high-tech/3024575-20210420-coronavirus-non-jacques-attali-predit-1981-pandemie-destinee-reduire-population

  106. utu says:
    @Dumbo

    Obviously lockdowns, social distancing and masking do work. And they work best with effective contact tracing.

  107. @utu

    Obviously lockdowns, social distancing and masking do work. And they work best with effective contact tracing.

    Obviously.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9262397/How-California-Florida-took-different-approaches-ended-result.html

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/15/florida-california-see-covid-19-declines-despite-different-approaches/

    Cognitive dissonance anyone?

    Or maybe just paid-to-post (times are hard).

    • Agree: Dnought
    • Replies: @Sparkon
  108. @metamars

    Not to forget that Alphabet-Google-youtube is connected to funding Eco Health as well.
    Those criminals against humanity have no shame and neither do their,CIA,Chinese,Rothschild-ean crime bosses either.

  109. Dumbo says:
    @utu

    Yeah, they work so well that we are in the 7th, 8th, “nth wave” of this stuff, whatever it is…

    Meanwhile, in the UK, (double-jabbed) Health Minister Sajid Javid got Covid… LOL. You can’t make that stuff up.

    Perhaps there could be a song, “Sajid Javid got Covid”. LOL.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  110. metamars says: • Website

    Since Israel’s vaccination rate is 60%, I multiplied their vaccinated 6/6-7/3 figures by 2/3, to get a more illuminating comparison with the unvaccinated figures.

    The results are:

    —– Critical Hospitalized Symptomatic
    unvax 6 14 257
    vax 7 15 342

    If similar statistics applied to the US, then this would not be consistent with claims by Tony Fauci – a known liar – that “More than 99% of recent deaths were among the unvaccinated” (in the US)

    Some obvious problems with my statement:
    * these are small numbers
    * Israel is not the US
    * this is a very cursory look

    Never the less, I feel confident that Fauci is lying through his teeth. I welcome anybody to produce evidence that he told the truth.

    Having said that, a tweet by Natalia Solenkova, that “personal observation” in one hospital is that 85%-90% of covid hospitalization are of unvaccinated, seems more plausible. However, “personal observation”, and from only 1 hospital, does not reliable statistical sampling make.

  111. Sparkon says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Those news articles you cite are both from Feb. 2021, while the Delta variant did not appear in the United States until March 2021.

    The recent surge in LA county’s COVID-19 cases occurred during the period June 15 – July 17 when vaccinated Californians were not required to wear masks in indoor public spaces.

    Of course it is likely that some number of unvaccinated people also did not wear masks where required since it was all done on the so-called honor system.

    Past discussions here at UR revealed a substantial number of outspoken scofflaws who claimed they never wore masks even where they were required, so the unvaccinated who went unmasked during that period are a confounding factor in the equation, a wild card that cannot easily be quantified.

    Now that LA county has reimposed mask mandates for indoor public spaces, it will be interesting to see what effect that decision will have on case rates in LA county.

  112. @Dumbo

    Meanwhile, in the UK, (double-jabbed) Health Minister Sajid Javid got Covid… LOL. You can’t make that stuff up.

    Funny how the official narrative somehow greases its way past such obvious discrepancies.

    Here in Australia, the Federal Health Minister, Mr. Greg Hunt, was famously broadcast on national television publicly receiving his AstraZeneca “vaccine” with the promotional slogan “The Gift Of Life”.

    The very next day, he was rushed to hospital in critical condition.

    I imagine that if he had died, they would have simply added his death to the Corona Chan fatality count.

    Yet no-one anywhere in the mainstream establishment seems to give a rat’s arse, and they just keep pushing the “vaccination” narrative, consequences be damned.

    As you say, you just can’t make this shit up.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  113. @A123

    Autocorrect is not your only mortal foe.

  114. @Ultrafart the Brave

    ‘Rhyming Slang’ Hunt is ‘critical’ at any time. But after his jab, probably a placebo, he was incapicated for only a few days.

  115. @utu

    Do you concede that all those measures have negative effects, too, particularly psychological and among the young?

  116. metamars says: • Website

    The Israeli vaccination rate may be 60%, but the adult vaccination rate is 85%. So, it’s more meaningful to compare adult vaxx vs. unvaxx serious complication data, as children are very unlikely to have such episodes.

    Using a multiplier of (.15/.85), I find that unvaccinated adults were 3x as likely to have a serious episode with covid in the July time frame.

    During the June time frame, the ratio was 13x. So, this is still not moving in the right direction, for anybody hoping the vaccine would confer a long term benefit.

    Meanwhile, looking at Jordan’s data, which has a relatively meager vaccination rate of 19%, we can see a similar collapse in their current “wave”, which looks more like a zit, in their worldometer graph.

    So, it looks to me like the main cause of collapse in both Jordan and Israel, from their previous wave, is collective immunity to the virus from natural means, not the vaccine.

    For such meager, transient benefits, the Israelis – and much of the rest of the world – have put themselves at risk for Alzheimer’s and prion diseases (see MD/Phd/JD Richard Fleming) and Reduced Effort Tolerance leading to heart failure (see Dr. Charles Hoffe). I truly hope the nightmare scenarios predicted by Fleming and Hoffe don’t materialize to any significant extent, but one has to wonder what so many governments are so eager to gamble their very viability as functioning states, for such paltry benefits? The worldwide IFR is only 0.15% (Ioannidis), and the disease is very treatable using cheap drugs (see Fleming’s website, where he costs things out for various protocols).

    FLEMING ALSO HAS A PROTOCOL FOR TREATING/LIMITING THE DAMAGE FROM THE VACCINES.

  117. Anon[230] • Disclaimer says:

    A scholar of the utmost eminence, Sir Patrick Vallance, says 60% of people hospitalized for COVID in the UK have completed their vaccination, and a ruckus erupts.

    The scientist is wrong, the scientist is wrong, he must rectify, he must rectify, he’s befuddling people’s minds about vaccination, he’s befuddling people’s minds!

    The cottect statistic (assuming this, and not the former, is the correct statistic) comes soon after by the same scholar, and it is that 40% of COVID-hospitalized people have done the full vaccination.

    And now, the “information” focuses on the weird mistake by the scholar. They don’t focus on the obscene reality about vaccines that the latter statistic (assuming it’s the latter that is correct…) highlights!

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