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Regarding the unsurprising slaughter in Paris:

Diversity is a disaster. Why people cannot see this is a mystery. A country can ignore an unfortunate reality, but it cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring it. Why governments allow and even encourage immigration of incompatible populations is a greater mystery. Few things cause more misery, hatred, death, and destruction than does diversity. One may wish it were not so, but it is so.

Some examples of diversity: Chechens and Russians. Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants. Tamils and Sinhalese. French and Moslems. Dutch and Moslems. Swedes and Moslems. Germans and Moslems. Turks and Armenians. Whites and blacks in South African. Ugandans and Indians. Cambodians and Vietnamese. Blacks, whites, and browns in the United States. Jews and Germans. Jews and the rest almost everywhere. Hindus and Moslems. Sunnis and Shias. Turks and Kurds. Tutsis and Hutus. Moslems and Israelis in Palestine.

Note that most of these have caused horrendous bloodshed. Diversity doesn’t work, as a rule catastrophically. Why would any country deliberately seek more of it?

If you point this out, the responses are automatic. “I know some really nice Mexicans/blacks/Moslems etc.” Or “Most Catholics/Protestants/Hindus aren’t terrorists.” True, well, and good. And irrelevant. There were really nice Germans and Jews in the Third Reich. How much did that help?

As a species we do not like diversity, though we may think that we should. People want to be with others like themselves. Difference breeds suspicion, friction arises,and the depraved or disagreeable nature of the other group is blamed.

Distaste for diversity of almost any kind runs through societies. Liberals associate chiefly with liberals, conservatives with conservatives, military people with military people, the rich with the rich, the highly intelligent with the highly intelligent, the young with the young. We may tolerate others if the distinctions are not too great, or if we are not forced into excessive contact. For example, while the Chinese in America are superficially very different from Euro-Americans, they are quiet, courteous, law-abiding, and studious, so little antagonism occurs. But the potential is there, as when they greatly outperform whites academically.

Men of all groups object to marriage of their women to other groups. The women are somewhat less clannish, more willing to marry out-of-group. This can cause bloodshed.

The tendency to drift into antagonism goes far beyond the rational—which just makes it intractable. For example, tens of millions of Hispanics live in the US and clearly are going to stay. Would not American patriots (patriotism being another form of the pack instinct) want them to prove smart, industrious, and eventually good and prosperous citizens? No. If I suggest that Hispanics may not be as awful as hoped, I get furious email (all from men: this too is built-in) insisting that Latinos are, are, areirremediably stupid, criminal, shiftless, hopeless, shriek. That is, distaste for diversity outweighs self-interest.

Examples of such tribalism as an inbred trait abound. Countless Americans loathe the French, without having been to France, speaking a word of French, or having met a Frenchman. The sophisticated detest “rednecks,” largely with no reason that makes sense. Hatred of Jews exceeds by far any harm thought to be caused by Jews. Northerners dislike Southerners. Lesbians detest men. Heterosexual men dislike the company of homosexuals.

Proponents of genetic determinism sometimes try to make these automatic hostilities the result of some evolutionary strategy to maintain the purity of one’s gene pool, but of course it is not. Many groups that dislike each other are genetically indistinguishable.

Those among us who prefer hope to observation invariably insist that dislike springs from some defect in the character of those doing the disliking. If only those awful bigots would learn tolerance. If only we indoctrinated children enough in the schools, surely…. If only we made enough laws, or prosecuted hate crimes, or showed enough harmonious togetherness in movies, surely….

In support of this delusion, they often point out that the Irish and Italians no longer suffer discrimination in America. See? Diversity is no problem. Yet this was not a triumph of toleration, but of assimilation: they stopped being Irish and Italian, and assimilated to the dominant culture.

But assimilation becomes less likely and more difficult as the numbers and concentration of a group increase. Immigrants in small numbers, especially if dispersed, have to live in accord with the dominant culture. They will be seen as interesting rather than as invaders. Nobody hated Mexicans when they were few.

Diversity runs contrary to our instincts, but is usually described as a conflict between niceness and not-niceness. One hears, “But there are no evil cultures. They are just different.” If a culture that practices forcible genital mutilation of girls is not evil, sez me, it will do until evil comes along. But, my prejudices aside, it is true that most cultures are in themselves friendly and pleasant. It just doesn’t make any difference. Usually it is not the nature of the cultures that causes trouble, but the attempt to mix them. This happens even when differences are small. During World War Two, for example, the British became thoroughly sick of American GIs. (“They are overpaid, oversexed, and over here.”)

In America today we see huge homogeneous pools of Negro and Hispanic population and culture. Tthe inhabitants of the massive black ghettoes have virtually no exposure to white America except via television, which means that assimilation is not going to happen. Further, as usually occurs with dense concentrations of a culture, they do not want to assimilate. They have their own music, modes of dress, variant of English, and non-standard names intended to emphasize their distance from whites.

The same to a lesser degree is true of Hispanics. It is also true of American expats, who tend to clump together and have no desire for assimilation. Human nature is human nature.

Aggravating the problem is that the United States no longer has a dominant culture, or at any rate no culture willing to be dominant. This has proved to be a recipe for unending and apparently unendable confrontation with blacks.

ORDER IT NOW

Will Hispanics follow the same pattern? They may well. Their numbers and concentration are great enough, they begin to have real political power, and will eventually have a voting majority in the Southwest. They know they are disliked by much of America. Hispanics are more assimilable than blacks; the question is whether they are assimilable enough. If the almost invisible differences between two flavors or Christianity or of Islam can lead to warfare, so may those between Latino and white. And trouble already brews between black and brown.

Diversity. It offers to divide America into three countries, self-aware and, may God preserve us, mutually hostile. We can talk forever about what ought to be. We can leap from a tall building, insisting that we are birds. Yet we live in what is. We are not birds. Reality eventually takes hold. Aye, there’s the rub.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. This piece is astonishing in its erudition, clarity, and above all…truth. I am very glad to have recently come across this website and look forward to many more posts from this author.

    • Replies: @Bob
  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, Fred is a gem! Found him on the web a few years ago. Try his website for many more articles and commentary. And, of course, his books are excellent reads!

  3. anon • Disclaimer says:

    It is happening. See the Cali central valley, Atlanta.
    Practical keys to retired life: A low taxable income so I don’t have to subsidize the reconquista and a CCW for when I have to traverse de-facto foreign countries. And Never go to Atlanta.

  4. What evidence is there that “northerners [sic] hate Southerners”, other than a few Ellis Islanders in smelly big cities who like to make snarky remarks? That’s like saying “whites hate blacks” or “men hate women” or “gringos hate Mexicans”, without specifying which.

    In the genealogical forums, on- and offline, that I’ve spent the last 15 years with, everyone got along famously. Didn’t matter in which boat, port or century one’s progenitor came.

  5. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Fred, you’re missing the obvious:

    “Diversity” just means chasing down white people. All & only white populations everywhere must be “diverse”.

    Nowhere, not any country, city, organization, etc. has ever been described as “too brown” or “too yellow”. There are lots more Asians and Indians in the world than whites, yet Asians and Indians are forever a “minority” and never, ever need “diversity”.

    It’s not about mixing “the races”, it’s just about making everywhere less white.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  6. Jose says:

    Uhhh. Maybe I missed this in the article, but Fred lives in Mexico. So if he is so against diversity, then why doesn’t he go back to where he came from? He wants an all white America, so fine. Why can’t Mexican have an all Mexican Mexico.

    Not the first time whites have been hypocritical with their do as I say not as I do rules. But introspection is not a defining white trait now is it?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  7. @Jose

    Fred is an ethnic minority in Mexico who married a Mexican, speaks Spanish and goes along to get along, and doesn’t file lawsuits, march in demonstrations, arrange for chain migration of all his relatives, and otherwise demand that Mexicans restructure their society to accommodate him.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
    , @Truth
  8. Hacienda says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yeah, but Fred is arguing against diversity pro forma.

  9. Hacienda says:
    @anonymous

    You know that Fred lives in Mexico. Whites are everywhere around the world. But you’re saying non-whites should be limited to their ancestral lands. Give it a rest. You embarrass yourself.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  10. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Fred is saying that diversity is here to stay here in the US. But there is ongoing re-segregation all the way from housing to college graduations. It’s the only practical way to deal with the manifold ill effects of mass immigration. Unless you like living on the wrong side of the tracks.

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Multi-culti is a neighborhood people like to visit and sometimes party in, especially if they’re young. Gets old after awhile and people want to retreat back to their own stable and familiar area. Multi-culti resembles a large zoo with all the animals in one big cage: elephants, giraffes, hyenas, gorillas, bears, snakes, etc all in one huge enclosure. Some people’s utopian dream is in reality a nightmare for those who find themselves locked into this situation and being forced to live it.

  12. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hacienda

    You know that Fred lives in Mexico. Whites are everywhere around the world. But you’re saying non-whites should be limited to their ancestral lands. Give it a rest. You embarrass yourself.

    Surely you jest?

    Is there not an enormous Chinese diaspora? How’s the “diversity problem” being handled in China?

    Only in white populations is race replacement celebrated as “progress”. No non-white country is forced to “assimilate” “minorities”, ignoring the global population statistics showing who the real threatened minority is.

    America went from 90% white to 60% in a generation. That’s completely unheard of in any country populated by non-whites. It would be utterly insane for Japan to host “Japanese privilege” seminars, and celebrate a coming Japanese minority. Noone ever, anywhere, has combed the history books looking for reasons to force European “diversity” into a non-white majority country.

    White people aren’t allowed to have anything exclusively for themselves anywhere, not even in Europe.

    You’re just anti-white. If this was happening in Asia, you’d be shouting genocide from the rooftops.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  13. Men of all groups object to marriage of their women to other groups. The women are somewhat less clannish, more willing to marry out-of-group.

    I don’t know, Fred; just from everyday observation I see exceptions to this. Not just individual exceptions, which go without saying, but group exceptions. Black men marry non-blacks much more often than do black women, and it’s the black women who object to this. And while I can’t cite statistics, my personal acquaintances number white man/Hispanic woman and Hispanic man/white woman marriages about the same, and I’ve never heard of the men from either of those groups objecting to those.

  14. Truth says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Not the first time whites have been hypocritical with their do as I say not as I do rules. But introspection is not a defining white trait now is it?

    No, not on this level, and Mr. Reed insists on coming across like a two-faced bufoon at least once a week.

  15. Truth says:

    What you are shouts so loudly in my ears, I cannot hear what you say
    -Ralph Waldo Emmerson

  16. Hacienda says:
    @anonymous

    I’m not anti-white. I’m mostly indifferent to hypocrisy. What I do like is a good argument, and Fred’s got a lousy one. Because he’s married to a Mexicana, and lives in Mexico.

    It’s also why white’s arguing against white genocide is so weak, because whites are the greatest practitioners of genocide. LOL.

  17. Svigor says:

    Diversity is a disaster. Why people cannot see this is a mystery. A country can ignore an unfortunate reality, but it cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring it. Why governments allow and even encourage immigration of incompatible populations is a greater mystery. Few things cause more misery, hatred, death, and destruction than does diversity. One may wish it were not so, but it is so.

    This stuff is pretty simple. DIEversity dramatically increases racial and ethnic conflict. Libs worship dieversity. Ergo, Libs want to dramatically increase racial and ethnic conflict. Further, the left claims that whites are to blame for non-whites who don’t measure up to white minimum standards. The left says whites oppress and discriminate against these non-white groups, at best (the spectre of white violence against these groups is continually invoked). Finally, the left insists, as a non-negotiable demand, that these non-white groups be brought into majority- and historically-white countries in large numbers. Ergo, libs want whites to oppress and discriminate (and maybe even use violence) against these non-white groups.

    Is there some other way to interpret their behavior?

  18. Svigor says:

    Yeah, but Fred is arguing against diversity pro forma.

    And you lot have deployed an ad hominem fallacy in response. Kudos.

    It’s also why white’s arguing against white genocide is so weak, because whites are the greatest practitioners of genocide. LOL.

    Blacks hold the death rate record for the Rwandan Genocide, which far exceeded “THE” holocaust.

    The Mongols killed 7% of the world’s population. I doubt anyone’s ever topped that.

    So, you’re 0 for 2. Usually people who like doing something are better at it.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    , @anonymous
  19. Svigor says:

    Moreover, the Hutus managed to set their record using mostly machetes, the Mongols with arrows. If you correct for technological capability, Whites don’t hold a candle to Blacks or Yellows.

    We do make better soldiers though, I’ll give you that.

    • Replies: @Jim
  20. Hacienda says:

    Arguments should have power, not just logic. Fred’s argument is weak from its goofball hypocrisy.

    Not gonna get into the who genocided who numbers game with you. It’s idiotic, although you somehow manage to see it as vindictive.

    • Replies: @Cameron
  21. Svigor says:

    Arguments should have power, not just logic. Fred’s argument is weak from its goofball hypocrisy.

    This is ad hominem fallacy. Fred could just hand his argument over to another writer, or publish the piece anonymously, and your “counter-argument” would dissolve.

    Not gonna get into the who genocided who numbers game with you. It’s idiotic, although you somehow manage to see it as vindictive.

    There you go off the track again, chasing motives and men and ignoring arguments. Maybe you just don’t care for arguments, and have convinced yourself otherwise?

    Up your game.

  22. Cameron says:
    @Hacienda

    “Arguments should have power, not just logic. Fred’s argument is weak from its goofball hypocrisy.”

    Sorry to disagree: The truth of an argument depends on authentic facts and logic. I don’t know where power is relevant unless you’re discussing the art of rhetoric which “aims to improve the capability of writers or speakers to inform, persuade, or motivate particular audiences in specific situations,” but has little to do with truth. As examples, both Hitler’s and Mussolini’s speeches were, to their German and Italian audiences, very persuasive rhetorically, but were not exemplifications of truth. The speeches had power but little truth.

    I believe you’ll have to explain what about Fred’s argument is goofball.

    And hypocritical? He doesn’t go around Mexico waving an American flag even though he is American. Many Americans of Mexican ancestry do wave the Mexican flag as their country’s emblem. But I thought they were Americans, not Mexicans. What gives?

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  23. Hacienda says:
    @Cameron

    Hey Biff,

    I ‘m just a dumb colored man. I just noticed that no black, Mexican, Muslim ever nuked Asians. They aren’t the bleeding edge in drone bombings, they don’t put a naval base in everything country, they don’t sky watch every human being on the planet, they don’t police with a possible list of 1000 pages of rules, laws, regulations.

    Adhomonim. LOL. I just can’t get that pinheaded man. I’m sorry, I jus can’t massa.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Hare Krishna
  24. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:
    @Hacienda

    no black, Mexican, Muslim… ever nuked Asians…the bleeding edge in drone bombings… naval base … sky watch… police with… rules, laws, regulations.

    Whites created nukes…drones…naval bases…sky watching…effective policing…and a host of other achievements, and have generally used them responsibly.

    Let us not be too anxious for the day when Blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims have full use of these products to be used as they usually use such things.

  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hacienda

    Anti-whites are as predictable as the sunrise.

    First, it’s “white genocide isn’t real. That’s racist. Diversity is a strength! Imagine all the people….”

    When someone points out your sinister intentions, namely that “diversity” never means anything other than Less White People, then it’s:

    “yes white genocide is real, and you stupid [crackers, roundeyes, goyim, etc.] deserve it!”

    I’m not the one looking to justify the unjustifiable. You are.

    Is there not an enormous Chinese diaspora? How’s the “diversity problem” being handled in China?

    Noone ever, anywhere, has combed the history books looking for reasons to force European “diversity” into a non-white majority country.

    You’re just anti-white. If this was happening in Asia, you’d be shouting genocide from the rooftops.

  26. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Blacks hold the death rate record for the Rwandan Genocide, which far exceeded “THE” holocaust.
    The Mongols killed 7% of the world’s population. I doubt anyone’s ever topped that
    .

    Shhhh, we’re not supposed to know that. History only begins and ends with whitey. Mongols, Turks, Tatars left nothing behind except destruction, nothing but a void when they departed. Civilization, science, culture were all destroyed by them. Euro-descended people are the ones who’ve dragged the rest of the world into the 21st century, against their will sometimes and by force if necessary. They’ve done the world a favor by modernizing them.

    • Replies: @Rudolphus James
  27. @anonymous

    No! It was a white Southerner with a Nazi grandfather, named Billy Ray Himmler, who advised the Muslim Tartars to throw infected cadavers into Caffra and set off the black plague epidemic across Europe. And it was cis-gendered white men who stole the culture of the Mongols and did all the raping and killing across Asia (because let’s face it, that’s all they have ever known how to do) that was attributed to Mongols, which is why it was so easy for other whites to later claim it was “Mongols” doing it, and justifying it with the racist claim that Asian men were effeminate so they must be gay (and how pale stale male of them, to think that there are only a few flavors of ice cream, when there are in reality, so many gay titles like Trans female, Gender Fluid, Pan gender, etc).

    European missionaries taught the black Africans to be so violent, because that has always been the message of the church. Before they came, Africa was a utopia of rainbow celebration of diversity and acceptance, where no crimes and certainly no murders ever occurred. Europeans even invented the technology to mass produce the machetes that were used in the Rwandan slaughter. How racist is that????

    Don’t you know anything about history??????

    • Replies: @Dr. T
  28. “I just noticed that no black, Mexican, Muslim ever nuked Asians.”

    That might have something to do with the fact that none of those groups have had the intellectual forte to actually create a nuke, even 60+ years after it was first done. So… we have to look at other examples within the realm of technology they do have, to assess their violence. And an objective look at the facts shows that they tend to be more violent than whites.

    What’s most glaringly different is the level of day-to-day violence, crime and despicable behavior from blacks, hispanics and Muslims, often over things that a sane person would consider trivial. How many blacks have been killed by other blacks for ‘dissing’? How often have Muslims had a violent hissy fit over ‘dissing’ Mohammed?

    When was the last time you heard of a white man raping and killing an 86 year old woman to steal $3 in her purse and then proclaim he did it in self defense because she was trying to force him to buy and use crack cocaine?

    How many white men illegally cross over into Mexico, demand that they use English in all formal documents and in all businesses, have 5 kids and expect the Mexican taxpayer to pay for it and cover their medical expenses? Or go to Saudi Arabia and demand they give special privilege to Christians, drop Sharia law, etc?

  29. Jefferson says:

    “There are lots more Asians and Indians in the world than whites, yet Asians and Indians are forever a “minority” and never, ever need “diversity”. ”

    How many White people do you think there are in the world in raw numbers using your definition of White ?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  30. Jefferson says:

    “In support of this delusion, they often point out that the Irish and Italians no longer suffer discrimination in America. See? Diversity is no problem. Yet this was not a triumph of toleration, but of assimilation: they stopped being Irish and Italian, and assimilated to the dominant culture.”

    Spoken like someone who has never lived in a New Yawk or New Joizy community that has a large Italian population. Northeast Italian Americans did not stop being Italian, we still identify strongly with our ancestors from the big boot.

    I live in San Francisco now but I am originally from Long Island.

    • Replies: @Cameron
  31. Jose says:

    This thread is hilarious. The white people here will stop at nothing to defend white behavior no matter how egregious.

    To say that Fred is married to a Mexican and can speak spanish and does not riot in Mexico is irrelevant. I can easily find a Mexican immigrant and say the same thing about him, so who than has the right to immigrate?

    My experience with gringos in Mexico is that they live in gringo enclaves, do a lot of drugs, and sleep with a lot of whores. Not exactly my idea of a good neighbor.

    White people always try to paint themselves as victims, and ask why the white man always has to be the victim of diversity. Try being a touch more introspective and think about things. It’s white people who are trying to intrude in on other cultures. The fed, democracy, McDonald’s, feminism, naval bases, and it’s white people who punish others who do not conform to their view of the world. The fact that elite whites invite other peoples into their country to work in hotels and cook food says more about the white condition and less about minorities.

    To white people everywhere. Quit trying to force your culture and your people on others and then people may return the favor and respond in kind. #golden rule

    • Replies: @Sparkling Wiggle
    , @bomag
  32. @Jose

    “My experience with gringos in Mexico is that they live in gringo enclaves, do a lot of drugs, and sleep with a lot of whores. Not exactly my idea of a good neighbor.”

    That’s an uncanny description of mestizos in America. Hey, maybe we should trade you your Mexicans for our Americans and call it even. Deal?

  33. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:
    @Jose

    To white people everywhere. Quit trying to force your culture and your people on others and then people may return the favor and respond in kind. #golden rule

    So. We are told. Again: White people must be punished. They must be punished until they are gone. Immigration is purely to punish White people.

    White people created naval bases? Punish them. Give it to them good and hard.

    White people created the Fed? Punish them. Displace them forever.

    White people brought democracy? Let’s take their stuff and eradicate them with extreme prejudice.

    White people created McDonalds (which isn’t just a particular food genre, but is a distribution network; franchise method; and business model)? Kill them all.

    White people dared experiment with feminism? Off with their heads.

    The fact that elite whites invite other peoples into their country to work in hotels and cook food says more about the white condition and less about minorities.

    It says that Whites create the wealth and social conditions for job creation. It says that “minorities” can’t do this.

  34. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jefferson

    I see 10% thrown around and have never had it disputed when I say “white people are less than 10% of the world’s population…” Anyway, I don’t think it matters for the purpose of debate. There surely are many more Asians and Indians than whites, however you want to define white.

    When this comes up in debates, I define white people as: the only people who they say need “diversity” and “antiracism”. That stops them dead in their tracks.

  35. Jose says:

    @doombuggy

    Wow. How reactionary. No one says white people needs to be punished. Just quit interfering with other peoples, and you will find that they will do the same for you.

    How enlightening that you see not being able to build naval bases and spread feminism as punishing white people.

    The wealth white people created was mainly due to the industriousness of whites from many generations ago. Since then, white people have made the CHOICE to have a more leisurely lifestyle that includes immigration (so you don’t need to get your hands dirty or study math) and taxing other peoples through dollar hegemony.

  36. @Jose

    The British did a fine job of interfering wherever they went.

    Colonialism was a pretty good deal for those on the receiving end of it.

  37. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:
    @Jose

    How reactionary.

    Thank you for the compliment.

    Just quit interfering with other peoples, and you will find that they will do the same for you.

    My legacy is White flight, suffering crime from the Other, and paying taxes to support an infrastructure that immigrants so want to use. I want nothing more than to be left alone with a piece of ground in which to bury my dead kin. But that is being given away to people who could not manage their own homeland.

    Yes, the Elites have had misguided adventures of spreading democracy et al. But almost all immigrants are here for economic or criminal reasons, and they become the new low bidder, or the new prison inmate. How is that working out for lower and middle class wages in this country?

    How enlightening that you see not being able to build naval bases and spread feminism as punishing white people.

    Naval bases allow world trade, and thus all the economic growth that allows us to have things like computers and the internet. You were the one complaining about them. Sorry to have inflicted them upon you. I’ll get rid of them as soon as I can.

    Feminism is an offshoot of wealth and leisure. My apologies for allowing such.

    …white people have made the CHOICE to have a more leisurely lifestyle that includes immigration (so you don’t need to get your hands dirty or study math)

    Such fallacies! The notion that immigrants are doing me a favor! That they are giving me leisure. Let them do all this wonderful work in their own countries; let them create all this leisure somewhere else. I will get my own hands dirty. I will wallow in math ignorance. Please. Throw me in the briar patch. Let me suffer the fate of being surrounded by lazy and dumb White Americans. The horror.

    …taxing other peoples through dollar hegemony.

    I see your handlers have taught you buzz phrases. But note well here that when the Fed announced plans to cut back their money printing, other countries clamored for it to continue, in the name of having enough tokens to clear world trade. I would argue that the thing is a burden for us.

  38. TaoRider says:

    Fred once again hits the nail right on the head. This most be so because he has created such a lively discussion and upset so many. “have one foot in the stirrup when telling the truth” (old
    Turkish proverb).

  39. Jim says:

    Once many years ago I went through the BBC website to see how many stories involved violent ethnic conflict. It seemed that almost all of them did so. In the course of doing that I came accross a story involving a violent ethnic conflict on the island of Guadacanal that I had never heard of. Two little Melanesian tribes on that island are fighting each other. To outsiders the two tribes appear pretty similar in appearance, language and culture but they cannot get along in peace.

  40. Cameron says:
    @Jefferson

    ” Northeast Italian Americans did not stop being Italian, we still identify strongly with our ancestors from the big boot.”

    Yet, you’ve taken the Anglo name “Jefferson.” Isn’t there some Italian hero’s name you could have chosen instead, identifying as you do with Italians rather than Americans?

    Mazzini? Garibaldi ? Cavour? Da Vinci” Verdi? Puccini? Raphael? Rossini? Michelangelo? Titian? And hundreds more in all walks of life.

  41. Jim says:

    Fred – It would be fine with me if Mestizos were able to fit right into traditional white American society. Indeed some can do so. The term “Mestizo” embraces a very wide range of genetic admixtures of Amerindians and Europeans. For Mexico the average among Mestizos is 50%-60% European with about 5% African and the rest Amerindian. There is a considerable range and of course about 10% of the Mexico population is basically European. That doesn’t mean that it’s not the case that mass emigration of Mexican Mestizos to the US is creating huge problems of compatibility with US whites and possibly even more so with US blacks.

    • Replies: @Cameron
  42. Cameron says:
    @Jim

    “Two little Melanesian tribes on that island are fighting each other. To outsiders the two tribes appear pretty similar in appearance, language and culture but they cannot get along in peace.”

    You could have mentioned Sunni and Shia Muslims also, as two very similar sects of the same religion who hate and kill eau other .

    And what about Protestant and Catholic Christians in Northern Ireland?

    Most people do not like diversity. They prefer to live with people of their own kind.

  43. Jim says:

    Fred – Regarding Italian-Americans asimilating in the US – The genetic differences between Englishman and Italians are trivial in comparison with the world wide genetic variation between human groups. Little can be inferred about the asimilation of Mestizos into traditional US culture given the much greater genetic distance.

  44. Jim says:

    +- ther is no evil cultures. They are just different.”

    Good and evil have no objective meaning. My values have no objective validity. But they are still MY values.

  45. Jim says:
    @Svigor

    Tbe Mongols were pretty impressive militarily. Their composite bows are among the best bows ever made. The Rwanda genocide was low-tech and very labor-intensive but in terms of intensity- number of people killed per day – it ranks pretty high up there.

  46. Dave37 says:

    I think Attila the Hun, the scourge of Rome, had composite bows which couldn’t handle the humidity of northern or western europe. The glue of the composite bow losing it’s adhesive qualities in the rain. (probably whythe English had long bows of Yew) and that prevented further expansion of that tribe, not that they did much after stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down. But I don’t mean to go off subject, I was thinking Quebec may be the last bastion in America not overcome by diversity and possibly the kind of alternative Mr. Reed is contemplating.

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    , @Jim
    , @Jim
  47. Truth says:
    @Dave37

    Dream on, you pathetic Schlemiel;

    You’re doomed-

    DOOMED I SAY…MOOOAAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

    Sincerely;

    Sandy Goldstein
    Supreme underground ruler of the earth

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-wants-to-loosen-immigration-rules-for-haitians-1.964168

    • Replies: @bomag
  48. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:
    @Truth

    Your link reads like a parody.

    Quebec Immigration Minister Yolande James

    We are indeed doomed if that is an immigration minister.

    “We hope that it’s not a racial problem.”

    No; why would it be; and who would notice? What is there to notice? There are no differences there to notice.

    Relief efforts “must… reorient international aid… towards systematic investment in Haiti’s own people and government…”

    That promises a great payoff. Nice to even slip that in there: “We demand you import Hatians so they can recreate their homeland where you live; but also fix Haiti for us.”

    Another group, Haiti Action Montreal, is also planning to protest the Haiti summit, which will be held at the headquarters of the International Civil Aviation Organization.

    The end has come and gone.

  49. @Hacienda

    I’m not anti-white. I’m mostly indifferent to hypocrisy. What I do like is a good argument, and Fred’s got a lousy one. Because he’s married to a Mexicana, and lives in Mexico.

    Sigh. So, if I point out the negative consequences of walking blindfolded on the highway and argue that it’s a bad idea, yet I myself engage in this activity, then whatever arguments I have made magically become bad arguments due to my personal behavior?

    I think you’ve missed the main points of the article if you’ve concluded that Fred is a hypocrite, but even if you’re correct about this, it has no bearing on Fred’s arguments.

  50. Jim says:
    @Dave37

    The armies of Attila the Hun were mostly composed of Ostrogoths and other East Germans. The actual number of ethnic Huns in his horde was probably very small. There never were enough real Huns to make a self-respecting horde.

    Little is known of Attila and even his ethnicity is not entirely clear. The name Attila is probably derived from the Gothic word “atta” meaning “father” and the Gothic diminitutive “-la” so means “papa”.

    The Germanic migrations were not just raids and played an important role in European history. Theodoric was king of the Ostrogoths.

    • Replies: @Dave37
  51. Dave37 says:
    @Jim

    I guess it must have been the Mongols in the 13th century with the composite bows that were likely to come apart if they got wet, though maybe they did some good if they introduced the stirrup to the west. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Jim
  52. Bob says:
    @leper messiah

    Raad his past posts. He can really cut through the BS. If we had politicians like him we’d have a lot less problems.

  53. Jim says:
    @Dave37

    The Mongols may have indirectly done some good for the West due to the destruction they rained on most of the rest of the Eurasian continent In particularly they greatly weakened the Islamic World taking a lot of pressure off Christain Europe. Europe was spared the direct economic effects of their destruction.

    Had the battle of Ain Jalut turned out otherwise and the Mongols had overrun North Africa the history of the West would probably have been very different.

  54. Jim says:
    @Dave37

    Also about Attila being the scourge of the Rome. By then almost all real power was in the hands of Germans. At the battle of Chalons most of the “Roman” army consisted of Visigoths. Even the generals on the “Roman” side were mostly latinized Germans.

  55. Bob Smith says: • Website

    Excellent rhetoric on clearly obvious facts that are routinely denied by the political class pushing “diversity”.

    Oil and water do not mix. But if you add an emulsifier and the problem is reduced dramatically. The American “melting pot” sort of worked this way. Especially as long as the immigrant population tried to become “Americanized”.

    But a generation of “celebrating multiculturalism” has had the effect of intensifying differences at the expense of blending into the melting pot.

    There is a conservative belief that the outcomes of governmental social programs is exactly the opposite of the original stated intentions. Multiculturalism is a good example.

    White intellectuals have lost their compass. Instead of enjoying the fruits of white society and doing what they can to help other societies, they have decided to apologize for their own success. At the same time they have decided to mass import non-whites as a form of penance.

    And this is not working well.

  56. @Hacienda

    Latinos are perfectly capable of assimilating and many do.

    Liberal white feminists, OTOH, are no longer fit to live in a civilized society, and they are the enablers of the ruin of America and many other nations.

  57. Dr. T says:
    @Rudolphus James

    The machetes were imported from China.

  58. Kat Grey says:

    Those white liberals who promulgate the joys of diversity almost never choose to partake of this vibrant Utopian rainbow party by making their homes in these diversfied neighbourhoods. Not for them the dubious pleasure of working-class whites watching bemusedly as their streets begin to fill with foreign faces wearing equally foreign garb. Feeling a frisson of fear as the insults begin to match the hostile stares eminating from these newcomers.. The crime rate rises exponential to the number of the uninvited strangers, the familiar rapidly descends into the nightmare abyss of the unfamiliar. The left-wing media happily chirps that this is “cultural enrichment” although the observer feels somewhat impoverished. The champagne socialists secure in their alabaster enclaves far from the migrant hordes do not have to send their children to a multi-ethnic school where the white child sticks out like a tragic marble statuette, a symbol of hate to the offspring of the immigrants who see the the boy or girl as the eternal oppressor of the unsuccessful races who through no fault of the whites lagged far behind in the combative race to the top of the mountain.

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