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This admirable column gets a modest trickle of mail from European readers, for some reason chiefly in France and Italy but some from the Nordic realms. While these correspondents are intelligent and thoughtful, and sometimes translate my maunderings into their languages, they do not give a comprehensive view of what Europe thinks of the United States—the populations, I mean, not the politicians, who think what will profit them, but actual people. A question of particular interest to me is why Europe, and Europeans, put up with America.

For example, European countries seem to be almost entirely subservient to the US, vassals, protectorates held in quiet contempt by America. Do not you in Europe obey almost every wish of the Americans? Do you not do everything for their benefit, not your own? How could they not scorn you?

The whole world sees this. England wanted to use Huawei in its Five G installation, but Mommy Washington said no. Boris Johnson wriggled and squirmed like a trained seal hoping to be given a fish…and then obeyed. Europe almost always obeys. Huawei wanted to build a research center in England, but Mr. Trump cracked the whip. England appears poised to obey. As usual.

“Yass, Bwana. Yassuh. What you say, boss.”

This is the England of Nelson and Churchill and the Battle of Britain? “Yass, Bwana”? How do you stand it?

Yes, I know, you Brits hide your subservience by saying that you have a “special relationship” with America, as if you were somehow coequals. In reality, the special relationship is only that of Most Servile Vassal.

But this acceptance of humiliation is not unique to England. You know this. Americans certainly know it.

All of Europe wanted to trade with Iran, as did Russia and China, countries representing far more population and GDP than America does. and you all supported the nuclear deal. But Washington said no. When Mother America gives orders, you all obey like circus dogs—Why do you do this? When did Europe become a gentleman’s club of bootlickers?

It is in your interest to buy natural gas from Russia, and whether it is in your interest or not it is certainly your business. But no. Washington says you cannot have Nordstream II…and you roll over, yes, with little whimpers of protest, but you take it. You must buy American gas, more expensive than Russian. But I think you know what Washington really wants, which is to make you dependent on America for energy. And it is working.

If you control a country’s sources of energy, you control the country. We see that around the world America is going for the oil: Iran, Iraq, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, the UAE. Too much of the world tolerates this, but Europe is worse. When Trump tells England to confiscate (“steal,” in plain English) Venezuela’s gold, it does. Yass, Bwana. And when Trump tells Germany—Germany, for God’s sake, the country of Frederick the Great, Bismark, Guderian—to recognize Guaido, Germany rolls over and spreads.

Everything you do seems to be for America’s benefit, not your own. Bojo docilely bans Huawei’s Five G, which sets back Europe’s adoption of an important technology by years—for the sole benefit of America.

Thus do we Yanks milk our colonials. Poor widdle fings.

You let America do this to you. “Yass, Bwana.” The Americans treat you almost as enemies, yet you treat them as friends. Richard Grenell comes to Germany as American ambassador, and begins barking orders to German businesses. American senators bluntly threaten to devastate the port of Macron commercially if it allows Russia’s pipelaying ships to enter. Incredible. The US pretends to be your ally, your guardian, your mother, yet it places heavy sanctions on you if you do not abandon a pipeline that is none of its business.

Why do you send European soldiers to fight America’s war in Afghanistan, a country in which you have no stake? Or Iraq? Or anywhere else? Washington regards you as sepoys, as its native troops. It uses you as a fig leaf of respectability to cover America’s unending aggression. But you do it, for America’s benefit, not your own. How charitable of you.

There is no end to your groveling. You have no need of NATO, the North American Treaty Organization, America’s prison guard in Europe. Countries cannot be sovereign and independent with foreign troops on their soil. Whether you call them occupation forces or something less candid, they in their tens of thousands, their dozens of bases, are a foreign presence.

They are there for America’s purposes, not yours. You certainly do not need them to defend you against Russia which is far inferior to Europe in population, GDP, military expenditure and which, as your intelligence services tell you, is not mobilizing. But to defend yourselves against this grave but nonexistent danger, you must spend mor on the military—which means buy more American arms.

Of course your own militaries cling to NATO. Their jobs and bases depend on it. NATO gives them the chance to go to Afghanistan and be just like real soldiers and to pretend that they are not without purpose. The bars and restaurants around the bases in Europe depend on the military dollar. Military men are often more loyal to their international comrades than to their own populations. Once military forces have encysted in a country, it is devilishly hard to get them out, and they will always find some budgetary pretext, send money.

Can you not see that America is playing you for fools in its creeping encirclement of Russia? Then, if America starts a war with Russia, it will be fought in…Europe. When was the last time America fought an American war in America? And you don’t even control your own armies.

“Yass, Bwana. What you say, Bwana. You de boss.” God almighty.

I would much like to hear what Europeans really think about all of this. Thanks.

Write Freed at [email protected] Put the letters pdq anywhere in the subject line to avoid autodeletion. Everything read, but replies not always forthcoming due to volume.

 
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  1. Hi, I am writing from Portugal, Lisbon. Here, the cultural complication of minds by the US Empire is complete. The majority of the people is plugged into Netflix, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and derivatives, so they think they are living in the US. All, and I mean ALL, of our media is anti-Trump and thinks the US is full of evil white people killing everyone else and that the Democrats are the only hope to restore hope and balance in the world. The majority needs, wants and desires a Pax Americana, full of US soldiers all around the world. We want so bad to be Americans we also have BLM protests and “whiteness problems”. We want to be more Democrats than the Democrats so we have away the Portuguese nationality to more than 150000 people last year (we are just 10 million) so we are not only “very diverse and progressive”, we actually are a Trojan horse inside the EU for demographic replacement. The US cultural-complex did a great job here.

  2. I ask myself the same thing. What I’ve learned from (non-Russian) Europeans I’ve spoken to in person is that…they believe they need us. They really do.

    I think, the century spent murdering and destroying Europe in general (the Wars), the decades spent murdering and arresting the questioning ones (Operation Gladio, etc.), and the years since 1920 spent “integrating” their corporations , financial institutions, and governing elites into the ” Western” system, who in turn worked through NGOs and their own powers to brainwash, crush, mislead, and replace their own populations for the Greater Good (and power), really just ruined Europeans and pushed them to a point beyond salvation. Their elites see themselves as equal employees under the system, not even part of an “American Hegemony”(it’s why Trump freaked them out so much, but they loved Obama), and their people…they just don’t know how to think.

    In fairness, it’s not like the Citizens of Imperial Rome know much better, but at least we’re slaves of our own country, and not another’s (Israel gets a lot, but ultimately it’s more a beloved tool than a beloved master.)

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @Tsigantes
  3. LOL, if NATO was canceled and de-funded tomorrow, you’d hear way more bleating and wailing from Europe than from America. To restate an old point, France pulled out of NATO in 1966. It shut down the NATO building at Porte Dauphine, hired movers to haul everything out and said va te foutre to the American soldiers there. France didn’t re-join for 43 years and America didn’t care. Interesting timing on that 2009 return by the way–just two later, Sarkozy would lead a NATO assault on Libya to liquidate his creditor Gaddafi, who had lent 50m euros to Sarkozy’s political campaign. So yeah, something tells me the Euros are doing just fine using NATO for their own disgusting ends.

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    , @Jake
    , @Tsigantes
  4. Richard B says:
    @João Antunes

    Here, the cultural complication of minds by the US Empire is complete.

    I don’t doubt the accuracy of your comment for one second.

    Depressing.

    But, also doomed.

    Why?

    Certainly not because I said so.

    But because you simply can not sustain a civilization more complex and unpredictable than ever before in human history on a steady and exclusive diet of propaganda and censorship.

    The truth will out.

    Reality always wins.

    No belief system can withstand it.

    Because Reality doesn’t give a damn what we believe in.

    So, the truth will out.

    Or, as Fred put it recently in a different but still reltaed context,

    “It’s Gonna Blow!”

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @JustSomeJB
  5. Anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:

    For example, European countries seem to be almost entirely subservient to the US, vassals, protectorates held in quiet contempt by America. Do not you in Europe obey almost every wish of the Americans? Do you not do everything for their benefit, not your own? How could they not scorn you?

    In essence, it’s Jewish (fake) money that rules the US and, by extension, most of the the EU. None of it will stick in the long run.

    The Jews have an uncanny ability to severe the branch they’re sitting on and now they’re doomed. Watch and learn.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @Dirk
  6. @João Antunes

    “The majority of the people is plugged into Netflix, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and derivatives, so they think they are living in the US. All, and I mean ALL, of our media is anti-Trump and thinks the US is full of evil white people killing everyone else and that the Democrats are the only hope to restore hope and balance in the world. ”

    An honest question: if America is full of, and moreover, run by and for, evil white racists, then why be plugged into its culture? I don’t recall people, generally, wanting to “plug into” Nazi, fascist or Soviet culture; anyone who did talk about Goethe or the Bolshoi was assumed to be on their side.

    • Replies: @João Antunes
    , @Anonymosso
  7. @Peter D. Bredon

    I don’t know also… I have dropped all subscriptions to those services and refuse to consume any media from them. But I understand why the Black Portuguese watch those shows, it fills them with ethnic pride, supremacism and fulfillment. The US Black Nationalists movements really did a great job. About the White Portuguese, I think it is happening the same thing that is happening all around the world in White communities: ethinic masoquism. The majority really do like to say other whites are racist, everything is racist and we have to live our lives as slaves of the Blacks in order to repay them eternally. It is slave mentality, I don’t know why, but it is what it is.

  8. Andrei says:

    The US has been successful in playing “divide and conquer” in Europe after WW2, same as Britain was before. Anglos are good at building empires same as Jews are good at making money. Individually, no European country is strong or brave enough to break away, and it’s difficult to make a common front when you have no common language and all the historical baggage Europeans have with one another.

    There’s other obstacles too. American NGOs have tremendous political power in Europe and all of them are tied in with the CIA and State Department. They control politicians, journalists and public figures in all countries and across the whole political spectrum. Being overtly anti-American (as in calling for an end to NATO or throwing US troops out of Europe) for a European public figure is on the same level as being overtly racist in the US.

    The US has agents embedded in the armies and secret sevices of every European country. In some Eastern European countries they practically run them outright.

    The European capitalists also don’t trust local politicians, either the left or the right ones. They’re afraid they might get ambitious and go after them. Whereas they trust the US political system to always produce candidates that are loyal to preserving the status quo (Trump is probably the first one they’re somewhat worried about).

    As for the regular Europeans, as long as they get their “dolce vita”, high life expectancy, high level of consumption, low crime, they don’t care who runs the show. They’re like sheep who are happy that the sun is out and they get to chew some tasty grass. As long as the wolves don’t get close, they’ll accept any shepherd.

    • Replies: @chris
  9. @João Antunes

    Have you seen the most recent issue of Visão Historia dedicated, of course, to RACISMO?Here is how it opens:

    O racismo está novamente nas bocas do mundo inteiro desde que, no passado dia 25 de maio, o cidadão afro-americano George Floyd foi friamente assassinado pelo polícia branco Derek Chauvin em Minneapolis, EUA …

    https://visao.sapo.pt/historia/2020-08-11-racismo-2/

    “Racism is again in the mouths of the whole world since, on May 25, African American citizen George Floyd was coldly murdered by white policeman Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis, USA …”

    • Replies: @Wyatt
  10. Beckow says:

    Europeans in general are wimps. They don’t want the responsibility for maintaining life; having families and nations is hard work, it requires more than most current Europeans are willing to do. At its core it is basically laziness – an under-appreciated factor in relatively prosperous societies.

    The ‘BLM’ idiocy is so absurd that only very mentally suppressed people in Europe could embrace it – and yet they are embracing it, partly out of idiocy, but also because for too many – especially in Western Europe – whatever is made in ‘America’ has become compulsory. Even their feigned (and real) hatred of Trump is an adoption of what they see as required attitudes that come from their American betters.

    Europe has no modern culture and it is almost completely derivative in its economy, politicians are vetted for years to make sure that they have the right attitudes (or right sins), and there is the attraction of the fat – most Europeans subconsciously link America to potential personal well-being.

    Most of Europe is done, and most modern Europeans like it that way. Having a future would require too much effort.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @lavoisier
  11. wwebd said – Fred, I love the fact that you continue to try to figure these things out.

    Keep at it!

    (By the way, if any Europeans are reading this , trust me, Fred was probably trolling you …. he probably does not really give one thousandth of a f*ck about what you think about America, at least not compared to how much he cares about what those of us who live here in America – and who are going to keep making this country great —- think about America.) (… Trust me or not, but it is extremely unlikely that the guy who made his chops fighting, or at least hanging out, in many dangerous situations, with fighters in Vietnam back in the bad old days, and who came back and made a living for decades reporting on the human idiocy in his own beloved country perpetrated by the unreducible proportion of idiots in our country that we are doomed to have to tolerate or manage ( a proportion that exists in every other country)— it is extremely unlikely that someone like that is going to care at all about the educated insights of Europeans. We all love you guys, but you ain’t us, and I don’t give a fuck what you think, unless you have good specific tactical advice, and probably Fred does not either. Just saying…)

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  12. Uncle Al says: • Website

    American women wax their mustaches, armpits, bikini lines, and legs. American women are hygienic and rich with fancy undies and naughty toys. America is a nation of miracles populated with goddesses and gods…

    …and Democrat Socialists, shaven gorillas, and folks even the French defeated. Europe figures it’s half-way to heaven.

  13. Ma Laoshi says:

    First of all, and I see I’m not the only one remarking on this, Europeans have forgotten (been made to forget) that they’re Europeans, i.e., that such a distinct identity exists; now they’re just seeing themselves as subjects of the Empire. A graphic expression of this was when BLM protesters were yelling “Hands up, don’t shoot” (a fraudulent quote even in the Ferguson context) at unarmed British bobbies.

    To get at the root of this, you need to dig a bit deeper than Europeans are presently prepared to do: with the mandatory, sacred Six Million as battering ram, a cult of guilt has been imposed on them, stating that Europe collectively is a failed, guilty continent, better to be kept under the auspices of the (((government))) in Washington D.C.–forever. Used to be that the bishops ran such a scam, but our new masters are proving more adept at navigating the winds of cultural change.

    Second, talking as if Europeans are victims in all this misses their own agency: they like stealing oil from the darkies as long as their refining companies get a few drops as well; the British like to steal Venezuela’s gold. All this merely continues habits established over centuries. Unfortunately for them, they no longer have the strength to continue the looting on their own (most clearly evidenced by their defeat in the Suez crisis), so out of necessity they do it as Uncle Sam’s junior partner.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  14. Anon[191] • Disclaimer says:

    The US is going down fast and the faster it does, the world will be better for it. Once freed from American control, Europe can then get to work fixing its muslim and black problems and send these vile creatures back to the pest holes they came from.

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  15. @Beckow

    At its core it is basically laziness – an under-appreciated factor in relatively prosperous societies.

    Your American exceptionalism is showing. Laziness at what? They produce better quality products – things that actually do what they are advertised to do, than any crap in the US, and they produce more of with the same tools at hand. In my lifetime, I’ve worked in 5 countries, including the US, (and none in Asia). Generally speaking, US workers are sloppier (lazy) than anywhere I’ve worked, and require more of them to do the same job.
    The issue in Europe is that it had its guts torn out in the 20th century, because of 2 World Wars, essentially losing 2 generations of their best. One would have thought Americans would understand that. The quality of Americans was drastically lower in 1865 than it was in 1860, and in my opinion still hasn’t recovered.

  16. @Ma Laoshi

    So, it’s a religion. America is God.

    Isn’t human intelligence a peculiar thing? Not really intelligent at all. Religion, agreed irrationality, rules. Odd!

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  17. What really disgusts me is every Australian government, every one, every PM, Gillard to Morrison, doing zilch to bring Julian Assange home. Yass, Massa.

    • Agree: mark green, Kali
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  18. Renoman says:

    Yass Fred, you nailed it again!

  19. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    So, it’s a religion.

    Oh no doubt, and on all sides–not just the usual suspects. When Harvard Law grad Obama bears testimony “I am convinced that America is exceptional with every fibre of my being” — not exactly rational, secular language. Mayor DeBlasio is seen by the right as a bit of a lockdown fundamentalist but then went on declaring that the BLM protests were too important to be subject to the same rules. Clearly, now we’ve shifted from negro advocacy to negro worship.

    Or what about the absurd array of privileges bestowed on one particular religious cult, just because they think they deserve it on account of their being Chosen? In large part because otherwise sane people can’t shake the habit of praying to the God of Israel, and deep inside fear that the latter will punish them if they show insufficient deference to His people.

    More generally, where’s the evidence for this mantra that people want to be free? Au contraire, countless ambitious individuals throughout history have concluded that the folks around them are begging for guidance. How was that Kevin Spacey speech in the Advanced Warfare trailer: “Democracy is not what these people need; hell, it’s not even what they want. People don’t want freedom, they want protection–from invaders and from themselves.” A more muscular version of the sentiment of traditional “Good Catholic” folk: “The stricter Mr. Pastor is, the better I like it.” Seen in this light, the attraction of Islam for many western youngsters isn’t really that surprising.

    As you may taste from my words, I’ve struggled with similar questions as Mr. Reed, “What are Eurotrash, my flesh and blood, getting out of this?” But there is an appeal in shedding all responsibility, particularly when consciences aren’t exactly clear. They pride themselves on their democracy in the abstract, in the sense that they want to feel better than Putin’s folks over there (nobody understands the Chinese anyway). But when you try to hold them to account for a couple little chemical provocations against innocent civilians in Syria, among a thousand other things, then it’s immediately “Surely you understand there’s nothing we can do about it!” And yet, who holds ultimate responsibility but European voters–at least as long as you claim to live in a democracy?

    As I think it still goes on Dutch radio, let us close the day with a spiritual meditation. What are the chances that Greta Thunberg is being given puberty blockers, possibly unbeknownst to herself? For when she loses the Baby Jesus glow she’s just another young adult with just another opinion, and her family’s business model and A-list status come to an abrupt end.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  20. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Seems Beckow hit a raw nerve. If you didn’t care for “laziness”, let’s try “apathy”, and I’m speaking from extensive first-hand experience. Eurotrash isn’t for anything, they’re not against anything; they don’t belong to a political party or other social organization. Their continent is being used as a disposable commodity, as the migrant wastebin of the Greater Middle East, in large part so that jews can get ever-more land for their race. To the German government, even the Kurds getting a land for their race is a priority on which substantial resources are expended, because Bibi thinks it a neat way to piss off the Arabs; the Germans are given no comparable attention.

    One would think that at least a thank-you would be in place, “Once again the whites, particularly in Europe, have proven themselves true friends of the jews, who value the interest and growth of Zion more than their own security.” Ha ha just kidding, from a great height the (((media))) are pissing on the whites as the source of all evil, an inferior race which is born guilty. I didn’t even get yet to the Ukraine albatross hung around their necks: not only a corrupt financial black hole but, like Libya, an open wound through which heavy military weaponry seeps into core Europe. And all this passes without a single anti-American or anti-jewish demonstration; people just hope the mayhem won’t come to their street during their lifetime–a mentality which doesn’t betray great interest for the shape in which they pass their countries on to their children.

    But that’s just it of course, at its core the issue is spiritual: the immigrants in Palestine are most welcome to say “The land is ours!” If the whites, the legitimate original population of Europe, were so stupid to utter a similar sentiment, they’d be arrested and thrown in jail. So there you have it–a defeated and humiliated people, differing from the Ukrainians only in degree. They’ve always laughed at those Palestinians, until one day they woke up and realized that they’re now a kind of Palestinians themselves.

    We’ve just lost, completely preventably, over 100,000 Europeans to Covid-19; nobody gives a peep. But when an American cop who’s probably not OK kills an American negro who most definitely was not OK, that’s when they find their cause and take to the streets. Losers, the whole lot of them.

  21. It is in your interest to buy natural gas from Russia, and whether it is in your interest or not it is certainly your business. But no. Washington says you cannot have Nordstream II…and you roll over, yes, with little whimpers of protest, but you take it. You must buy American gas, more expensive than Russian. But I think you know what Washington really wants, which is to make you dependent on America for energy. And it is working.

    But the Germans haven’t cancelled Nordstream II

    • Replies: @Weston Waroda
  22. This is no argument against Mr. Reed’s view of the geopolitics the of American government’s relationship with, or control of, European government policy. He seems to know more detail on it than I do. The one thing that would have made this article more truthful was just a change in the wording. Notice that I wrote the American Government’s vs. America’s.

    Who is this America of which you speak? Is it me and my neighbors? Are we in some Democracy or Constitutional Republic still, in which we are determining what this beast of a Feral Government is doing? Big Biz here is pretty much part of this beast now, so any examples of these geopolitics involving Big Biz are the same story.

    I’m guessing if you asked Americans about some of these policies, many would not be in favor were they to know the details. We didn’t have any problem with Trump’s talk (as usual, just bullshitting) about disbanding NATO. NATO hasn’t been necessary since 1990.

    The confusing all the American people with the Neocons, Elite Big-Biz icons, and State Department apparatchiks is a problem here. I suppose, if Mr. Reed defined “America” as all that at the beginning, that could have cleared it up. Are you OK, Mr. Reed with all that “your” Mexican government is doing? After all, by this reasoning, that means YOU.

    • Agree: Jus' Sayin'...
  23. @Richard B

    No belief system can withstand it.

    Religion, and in particular Christianity & Judaism, have been around for millennia.

    I’d say that the most ridiculous ideas are the longest lasting.

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    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Dumbo
  24. @Peter D. Bredon

    “America is full of, and moreover, run by and for, evil white racists, then why be plugged into its culture?”

    For the same reason why left-wing black folks in America claim it’s a horrible place and the most racist country in the world, yet do not move to Africa: Because they don’t actually believe their own lie. They repeat the lie because they know it can bring them money and power, not becusee they believe it.

    No place is perfect, including America. But to claim its a horrible racist dystopia is absurd to the extreme.

    • Agree: anonymous1963
    • Replies: @anonymous1963
  25. macilrae says:

    Although I am originally English I have been away for more than half my life and don’t recognize the country anymore – it used to have a lot of individuality and character and now that is pretty well all lost. The work ethic has gone (admittedly never England’s greatest claim to fame) and so also has the acerbic wit of the ordinary folk; the ability to improvise (often so as to get out of doing something tedious); the very original humour (e.g. Monty Python) and, most of all, the creativity: England used to lead the world with its inventiveness. Nowadays the society is awash in popular culture with virtually all the music having African roots: people spend hours and hours online when they ought to be working and they seem not to care anymore about anything other than their own selfish needs.

    There have even been BLM demonstrations in a country where Africans are pretty well worshiped and given opportunities and responsibilities often way beyond their competence. In fact there is a huge underclass of people with African blood weighing heavily on the welfare system and – as everywhere – the black crime-rate soars (knife crime being its latest manifestation). Inter-racial liaisons with blacks are nonetheless hugely encouraged in the media; the BBC is so black-obsessed, it has become unendurable.

    No, of course, what I have described isn’t unique to England – it seems to be happening just about everywhere in the “western” countries. Many (here particularly) see this as all part of a “dumb-down” Plan (see for example the recent excellent review of Claire Ellis’ “The Blackening of Europe” by Andrew Joyce here). USA is furthest now along the path to anarchy but, as Fred says, Europe is following slavishly.

    • Replies: @Anonymosso
    , @Anon
  26. @Curmudgeon

    “The issue in Europe is that it had its guts torn out in the 20th century, because of 2 World Wars, essentially losing 2 generations of their best.”

    The older I get, the more important I realize this was. In that sense, WWI was monumentally destructive – it really did wipe out the finest young men of each major European nation involved. WWII was of course bad too, but WWI is what really cracked the formerly great edifice of old Europe.

    War is shit.

    • Replies: @macilrae
    , @anonymous1963
  27. Hillbob says:

    Europe what? The original in genocide, deceit .slavery. Their fingerprint er bloodstain is all over the globe including their own continent.
    Come on Mr Reed , read your history. Amerika founded by whom?
    They are all the same, sharing an affinity for violence and mayhem and exploitation

  28. macilrae says:
    @Anonymosso

    “The issue in Europe is that it had its guts torn out in the 20th century, because of 2 World Wars, essentially losing 2 generations of their best.”

    It’s a point of view – but Germany was the western country most ravaged and degraded (Russia is another matter) and look at how they bounced back to overtake everybody else in Europe. Look, too, at Japan and Korea which were practically obliterated in WWII and the Korean war. The rot seems to have set in subsequent to this and it came with increasing affluence – not destruction.

    • Replies: @George Taylor
    , @shoot
  29. @Curmudgeon

    The issue in Europe is that it had its guts torn out in the 20th century, because of 2 World Wars

    Whose fault was that?

    They produce better quality products – things that actually do what they are advertised to do, than any crap in the US

    Like what? Do Americans ever stand in line for anything made in Europe? Europeans do queue up for the latest iPhone and Xbox, to which you’ll probably say something brilliant like tHeY’rE mAdE iN cHiNa.

    I can’t think of any examples of Americans really thirsting for a European product. Mercedes owners dump their cars the minute they’re out of warranty, because they know all about Mercedes. Same with BMW owners; then black dudes buy them on Craigslist for $4,000, tint the windows and deal with years of crushing repair bills.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  30. @macilrae

    “Inter-racial liaisons with blacks are nonetheless hugely encouraged in the media; the BBC is so black-obsessed, it has become unendurable.”

    As someone who can appreciate a hot chick regardless of skin color, I’ve never cared about interracial relationships per se – but I agree, the modern media has an obsession with interracial relationships. I suspect that white liberals, having utterly failed to elevate hapless black ghettos out of poverty, have an unspoken plan to simply try breeding racial distinctions between blacks and whites out of existence.

    In the extreme long run, I actually do think that’s inevitable (between basically all races), but they’re trying to cobble over their own failures now by accelerating that process.

  31. @Kent Nationalist

    No, they haven’t, and actually, for the first time in generations, some Europeans are beginning to assert their independence from Washington. The Germans didn’t cancel Nordstream II, and Europe didn’t go along with the snapback sanctions on Iran that Pompeo arrogantly demanded after it was the US that broke the deal with Iran. US prestige abroad has definitely suffered under Trump. It’s the beginning of the end of the American Empire, and when we get that all over with, maybe we can be left with just a normal country again.

  32. The United States in falling apart It’s “in a worse state than Russia”

  33. Kouroi says:

    Long live the Russo-Iranian-Chinese Partnership!

  34. Max Payne says:

    I’ve said it before. There are no European men anymore. The last of them were executed in the late 40s.

    Now the so called European man can’t make a decision without asking his wife for permission.

  35. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Beckow

    The ‘BLM’ idiocy is so absurd that only very mentally suppressed people in Europe could embrace it – and yet they are embracing it, partly out of idiocy, but also because for too many – especially in Western Europe – whatever is made in ‘America’ has become compulsory. Even their feigned (and real) hatred of Trump is an adoption of what they see as required attitudes that come from their American betters.

    Europe has no modern culture and it is almost completely derivative in its economy, politicians are vetted for years to make sure that they have the right attitudes (or right sins), and there is the attraction of the fat – most Europeans subconsciously link America to potential personal well-being.

    Most of Europe is done, and most modern Europeans like it that way. Having a future would require too much effort.

    Could this level of absolute white stupidity and conformity explain why it has been so easy for a minority of tribal Jewish supremacists to take control of Western societies??

    I think the answer to this rhetorical question is yes.

    Pathological altruism or just plain stupidity?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    , @anonymous1963
    , @Sulu
  36. @macilrae

    But we did pacify them. We nuked and firebombed Japan and we virtually erased Dresden, Germany.

  37. Yes, I know, you Brits hide your subservience by saying that you have a “special relationship” with America

    It’s a fact, which Hilary Clinton and her supporters prefer would be forgotten, that Whitehall officially and publicly repudiated the “special relationship” shortly after Obama made Clinton his Secretary of State.

    Within a few weeks Clinton made the epic diplomatic blunder of referring to the Falkland Islands as the Malvinas, thus putting a wrecking ball through over a century of US diplomatic policy. Fortunately, this particular Clinton faux pas did not leads to wars, ethnic cleansings, toppling of governments, destabilization of whole regions, e.g. North and Central Africa, and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of deaths.

    Unfortunately, further into her tenure, many other instances of Clinton’s ignorance, stupidity and incompetence did have exactly these dire consequences.

    • Replies: @Sulu
  38. @Boomthorkell

    Israel gets a lot, but ultimately it’s more a beloved tool than a beloved master.

    As a citizen of the USA, observing the control our traitorous neocon/Zionist fifth column exercises over the USA’s foreign policy, I beg to differ. These parasites are responsible for almost every single disastrous misstep the USA has made in North Africa, the Levant, and the Middle East since Eisenhower left office. All the USA’s subversion and deadly, criminal and counterproductive wars of aggression in these regions can be attributed directly to Israeli control of the USA’s foreign policy via its neocon/Zionist agents.

    • Agree: anonymous1963, Kali
    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
  39. @Anonymous

    Basically, I agree. But the timing of the result is far from clear. In the intermediate term every reader of this site may have died and the Jewish establishment might still exercise considerable influence within our new globalist masters international fiefdom.

  40. Beckow says:
    @Curmudgeon

    You misunderstood, I was talking about laziness in life. I don’t care much for ‘work’ or industriousness, it is not something to celebrate (think about it before you object).

    You don’t address my core argument that Europe has self-destructed – way after WWI and WWII, more like in the last 2 generations – by its myopic yearning for ‘America’. It is a silly infatuation of people who lost the ability to value who they are – so migrants, feminism, Hollywood, junk food, all of it followed. I am not an ‘exceptionalist’ of any kind, if anything I value ordinary life above all else. You are barking up the wrong tree.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  41. @Bragadocious

    Whose fault was that?

    The Wall Street bankers.

    Like what?

    Well how about starting with things like chemicals that are supposed to “waterproof” shoes. None of the US made stuff I tried worked.

    I can’t think of any examples of Americans really thirsting for a European product.

    Does that mean no Americans want Phillips or Siemans diagnostic imaging equipment? Nobody wants CT scanners? How about pacemakers?
    Never heard of Lego or Playmobil? No one buys Henkels knives or Swiss watches?
    I’ve owned and/or rented vehicles from all of the Big 3, English, German, French, Italian, and Swedish vehicles. Fifty years ago, the US cars were more reliable than any of them. Not now. Not that I know that many people buying Mercedes, but all of the ones I know have only had problems with the ones made in the US. Volkswagen and Volvo had the same problem decades ago, and closed their plants in New Jersey. I know plenty of people with 8-9 year old BMWs, and they love them.
    I drove American made cars for years. They have many good points, but quite frankly are not up to the quality they once were. The re-introduced Malibu I had in the 90s spent almost as much time in shop as on the road. The service writer used to shrug and say, “It’s a Malibu”. Not that it matters, because now that the Japanese and Koreans have pushed the Big 3 out of passenger vehicles, and substantially SUVs, the half tons will be next.
    How many people lining up to buy the junk Harley Davidson puts out compared to BMWs, Ducatis, or Moto Guzi? Harley’s “Made in America” is bs. All of the parts are made (design faults and all) in Asia and assembled (poorly) in the US.
    Why is there a waiting list for Ferraris? Citroen, Peugeot, and Renault gave up playing the EPA game and won’t even sell here.
    iPhones and XBoxes are distractions, and planned obsolescence. They are out of date before you get home. There is lots of European stuff that has been crushed by the Japanese. Any audiophile, while acknowledging there was some very good US manufacturers knew Tandberg, Harmon Kardon, Bang and Olufsen, Braun, Siemens, Tannoy, and others were the the paradigm. Eventually Bose caught up and produced as good if not better. Most of the European ones listed above had their technology “borrowed” or slightly modified by the Japanese. That includes B&O’s wireless remote from the 70s.
    Don’t get me wrong, there was good stuff at one time.
    One of the things you should know about NAFTA, is that it required harmonization of standards. There were several US and many, many, Mexican products that did not meet Canadian safety standards. Most of those Mexican products did not meet the American standards. The “harmonization” meant that Canadian standards were lowered, as were American standards, and a hand full of Mexican standards raised. Clinton’s WTO lowered standards everywhere. Other than the Japanese, who are culturally geared to improve, most others leveled off or dropped quality and safety standards.

    • Agree: chris
  42. Beckow says:
    @lavoisier

    …Pathological altruism or just plain stupidity?

    Those could be the same thing. I know we have been bombarded by academic studies claiming the opposite – that altruism and charity are beneficial, blabla… – but it doesn’t pass a simple common sense test. It is also true that groups that explicitly exempt themselves from these rules do better and it benefits them to brainwash others into ‘altruism’ while they practise nepotism and tribal loyalty. It is a con game, an old Middle Eastern con practised for millennia.

    • Replies: @shoot
  43. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Well, there’s a lot of influence there, that’s true, but I think quite a lot of the framework was laid in the taking of the Phillipines, Cuba, WWI, the European interventions in the ’20s and ’30s (the investments in Germany, etc.) that wasn’t really connected to anything Zionist. I think the elites like to hold each other’s hands, but I think the cast-offs of the Soviet Union (the primary demographic for those Neocons, if I recall) only were given a reception here because other…more Native elites wanted them, if that makes sense?

    Still, without Israel and NATO, America, Israel, and Europe would all be better off. Break the destructive feedback loop, ha ha.

  44. I can’t disagree. The USA’s unrestrained criminal interference with other countries began in earnest as a result of the war with Spain (1898 – 1899). That war turned the USA into an imperial power and instigated further interference in the affairs of countries in the Western hemisphere, using the excuse of the Monroe Doctrine. After WW II the Dulles brothers initiated nearly a decade of international gangsterism. This led directly to the Vietnam War and other such interventions since then. But at least since the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, Zionist influence, later combined with neocon influence has played a dominant rule in directing US foreign policy, both civilian and military.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  45. Richard B says:
    @RoatanBill

    Religion, and in particular Christianity & Judaism, have been around for millennia.

    That’s true.

    It is a depressing fact that they can last for millenia.

    But have they really been successful?

    Though I’m not either, there’s no question Christianity had more staying power on a grand scale and contributed more, far more, to Western Civilization than Judaism.

    Judaism is fundamentally predatory and parasitic.

    It has never survived on its own or included very many people.

    And it never will survive on its own.

    It’s simply too dependent on propaganda, censorship and force to work in a civilization that is now more complex and unpredictable than ever before in history.

    And the Enlightenment really just amounted to a secular, watered down version of Christianity with a some Judaism and Platonism thrown in.

    But what do they all have in common, the Judeo, Christian, Greco, Roman?

    They’re all explanations that claim to be true.

    That is what has collapsed.

    And this was being studied during the 19th and 20th century, first with European Romanticism, and later with American Pragmatism and both culminating in the subject of Cultural History (of European culture and its geographical extensions, ie; USA, etc.).

    You can see this in the work of cultural historians like Jaques Barzun, even Kenneth Clarke, and especially in the work of Morse Peckham, who was so at home in both the Arts & Sciences that, even though a humanist, he was asked to edit the variorum edition of the 100th anniversary of Darwin’s Origin of Species.

    It was this that The Usual Suspects squashed during the 20th century and replaced with pseudo-intellectual garbage like The Frankfurt School.

    Most of Peckham’s greatest work was permitted to go out of print. But it was very popular during the 50’s and 60’s and even up until the early 80’s when he retired.

    The point is, it was well documented and is not the imaginings of some random TUR commenter.

  46. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    The US is to Europe what Brazil was to Portugal.

    The Portuguese basically had to thin out an underclass that every country has-vagrants, criminals, alcoholics.

    They sent them to Brazil.

    But Brazil also had a huge influx of Africans from Portuguese colonies like Angola. And also Indians in the jungle.

    Soon the Portuguese males of the lower order were having children with them and soon a huge vast underclass of mixed-race paupers appeared. Portugal did not send many women and the Portuguese males started to marry with Indians and to father children out of wedlock with Africans.

    Meanwhile, the Portuguese colonials who had been awarded titles and land grants in Brazil solidified their power. They imported Portuguese females from better families and carefully guarded their white identity.

    Meanwhile, the Portuguese middle-class of merchants and skilled tradesman who either married Indians or Lisbon street girls of ill-repute who hung around the harbor drifted downwards in Brazilian society. Films like PIXOTE, which reflect the condition of white Portuguese street children in Rio. PIXOTE was descended from Portuguese alcoholic sailors from Lisbon and hookers of ill-repute around the harbor.

    America is similar in some senses. For a long time the upper-caste of US society were descended like the Bush family from British colonials who received land grants. And like Portugal, Britain deported a bunch of sailors and criminals and prostitutes from its harbors who created a vast underclass beginning in colonial times.

    The difference was that in the US North slavery was prohibited and as a result poor immigrants could compete on the labor market. Had this not been the case, the US would have ended like Brazil with a huge African population.

    Also, many more white women came to the US. Why? We don’t know? It probably goes back to Northern European liberality with more women doing what they wished. Portuguese women were always more closely guarded by their families and the only Portuguese women who went to Brazil were Lisbon street hookers who had no qualms about sleeping with Africans and Indians.

    For 100 years Brazil remained a place for Portugal to get rid of its underclass. But there were never enough of them for Portugal to get rid of and in any event they could not compete with African slave labor.

    Meanwhile huge numbers of Africans came to Brazil. Their R strategy reproduction soon meant that they were outnumbering the small number of Portuguese and a huge tri-racial group of orphans was simply living in corrugated shacks. To this day, that is the case.

    Curiously, although tri-racials were begun by Portuguese males, the R-strategy took over and soon Brazil had a vast population of orphaned children running the streets like stray dogs who were fathered by strangers and abandoned by their mothers.

    The courtship rituals and marriage ceremonies of the Portuguese were far outraced by the jungle instincts to pump and demographics soon reflected this in a vast poor population of tri-racials.

    Barely above them, and sometimes in the same conditions, are the descendants of alcoholic sailors and Lisbon girls of ill-repute.

    Brazil never became a superpower after independence who came to control Portugal because never did enough Europeans immigrate. Today, the tiny Portuguese ruling elite of Brazil maintains ties to Lisbon-that is where Portuguese Brazilians are from as oppose to Portuguese-Americans who are mostly Azores-but they don’t control Portugal.

    However, there are some similarities.

    Like Brazil, the US has a vast poor underclass. It will no longer be able to maintain any control over Europe as it cannot even control its looters and rioters.

    Nor will the new elite in US politics care about Europe as they are not Europeans.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Adûnâi
  47. @Richard B

    Your words are profound. The truth will out, indeed.

  48. Dirk says:
    @Anonymous

    There is a very good reason the Jews are always expelled from where they infest… Always. Sure, they’re smart but they always overstay their welcome.

  49. @Anonymosso

    Ditto with blacks in Canada and Britain.

  50. @Anonymosso

    In many ways WW1 was a form of mutual suicide for all the countries of Europe. It was too costly a war. Even the victors lost really.

  51. @lavoisier

    A bit of both. And something else too which I cannot quite define, that missing ‘X’ factor.

  52. J says:

    Co-operation is feasible only when there is strong leader. The world needs a “Superpower” to keep the seas and the air open and safe. We need America to make order on the planet. America is not evil, but the alternative (say Germany, Russia and now – China) may be. As Britain discovered two generations ago, it is no fun nor profitable to be superpower, and we hope America does not tire of being one.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  53. Anon[127] • Disclaimer says:
    @macilrae

    Speaking from South Africa, we have America’s and Europe’s problems by a factor of 100%. However, there is a massive dichotomy at play here, During my several visits to the United States it became obvious to me that the Americans I really like and admire were from, what I like to call small town America. The people who are friendly, honest, giving, generous and those who attend church of a Sunday, the people from the big cities that I visited were a different breed entirely. People from New York, Chicago, Baltimore and other major population centres were almost completely self-centered, in pursuit of their own interests 100% of the time. I classified New Yorkers as people who would say “have a nice day” then step over you if you collapsed on the sidewalk. It is a massive shame that America is governed by people from the big cities whose ignorance blinds them to anything but the advancement of their own agendas. In the main I am very fond of Americans, but, in the case of those like Mike Pompeo, I would have difficulty in urinating on his head if his hair caught fire.

  54. chris says:
    @Andrei

    Definitely agree with your comment, Andrei.

    However, regarding this one,

    As for the regular Europeans, as long as they get their “dolce vita”, high life expectancy, high level of consumption, low crime, they don’t care who runs the show.

    I want to make the point that it wasn’t always this way.
    There were lots of protests in the 1970s and 1980s which all fell away for obvious reasons when the Soviet block collapsed.

    But the editorial boards of all the leftist media didn’t even change its stripes, they just changed direction. The way they’re bafooning Trump now, was the exact way they were treating Reagan back then. The same cabal has seamlessly changed from anti-Americanism then to anti-Russia now, and the crowds seem to just follow. But I think, the word on the street is it’s becoming less and less convincing (at least I hope so).

  55. chris says:
    @Bragadocious

    LOL, if NATO was canceled and de-funded tomorrow, you’d hear way more bleating and wailing from Europe than from America.

    Yeah, but this comes only from the rulers and elites. Regular people think this is just harmless fluff. If they were in with all the ME missions at first, they must be seeing what a criminal farce they all turned out to be. … of course, no one is out in the streets protesting any of this though so it just remains my personal assumption.

  56. chris says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Yeah, this is the most shocking aspect of the servitude of its vasals. That the US can make an absolute mockery of traditions of freedom of speech in the UK, whithout even a peep from the ‘proud’ lackeys of England; “we’ll be with you whatever!”

    Diddo for Sweeden with its fake charges against Assange.

    As long as the narrative is disemminated in the MSM, people will continue to follow. This too has a limit, we just haven’t reached that point yet.

  57. That’s because, post second world war, Europe has become soft, flaccid,old, lazy and with the woke politically correct thralldom, increasingly unable to defend itself.

    As time goes by, Europe and Europeans will increasingly be at the mercy of younger, more aggressive “migrants” from N.Africa, the Middle East, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and elsewhere.

    It’ll be interesting to see the fate of the European way of life, the art, sculpture and museums about fifty years from now.

    Roll over for the US
    OR
    Spread for China.

    The choice is yours.

  58. dontnod says:

    simple: we got fucked by UK/USA NATO/GLADIO programs and have no real indipendence of our own

  59. A question of particular interest to me is why Europe, and Europeans, put up with America.

    I am English. I think that its a recognition of the difference in power. The Suez crisis demonstrated that the UK cannot act (even with relatively powerful partners, in the case of the Suez Crisis, France and Israel) independently of the USA.

    This is the England of Nelson and Churchill and the Battle of Britain? “Yass, Bwana”? How do you stand it?

    This is all great stuff and I love it, well, Nelson and the Battle of Britain anyway. But the reality is the UK/British Empire was never really as powerful as she was often perceived to be. Britain was never powerful enough to fight and win against powerful European enemies, such as Germany, France, Russia, Spain, on its own, without allies. Britain’s danger to European rivals was because it it in island and therefore maintained a big navy as its primary means of defense. Which meant Britain could attack its enemies where they were weakest. Britain as a great power was always an illusion.

    If the USA decided to stop being world policeman, then the UK would have to reconsider its options. We don’t have a great big navy anymore because the US Navy is happy to rule the waves. As things are, our elite, released from the burden of having to be grown ups leading a grown up state, our elite can focus on silly and stupid things and stuff that is detrimental to the health and well being of the nation, just like your Democrat run cities. And I think that is the way our elite like it.

    Smith is the most common name in the UK, as it is in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the USA. We share with the USA a certain amount of history, a language, a legal system and a lot of culture. Having people, who are to a great extent your distant cousins, run the world is not such a terrible fate, even they are occasionally irritating.

  60. Is it so bad for Europeans?

    1. We get the illusion of military protection for nearly no money. Granted, illusions are dangerous, but Europe is under no military threat by any serious military power – save Turkey which is threatening Greece, but that country receives help from France and Italy which is more than enough to keep the wannabe neo-Sultan in check. Russia of course is a serious military power, but whatever NATO types and assorted US neo-cons might say it doesn’t threaten us. Therefore that illusion is mostly harmless.

    Yes, some of us fell in the trap set up in 2003 by the US government and let themselves be convinced to take part in the invasion of Iraq. But neither France nor Germany fell into that trap. And those who did… have learnt better now.

    2. Our prosperity is helped by superior industrial performance enabling us to get a coverage rate of 165% exports / imports (1) Granted, that might remain true even if we were collectively more independence-minded… but in the global picture, it weighs far more than the drawbacks to us of US behaviour

    Those drawbacks include a few concrete things, such as hinderance of trade opportunities with Iran, plus noise. Actually, they’re mostly noise. Polite noise when Obama was president, strident noise now that Trump is president. But… mere noise, anyway. The concrete drawbacks weigh little.

    Why? Essentially because when it’s a serious European interest… we pretend to follow America, but we keep it at pretending. For example, trade with Russia is really important to Europe, chiefly for Germany. The US insisted in 2014 in the wake of the Ukraine civil war that EU strangles Russian economy, at its own cost. And the EU did that… apparently. Some “sanctions” were put in place, yes. And EU-Russia trade went down (2)… but less so that the price of oil and gas – main Russian export products – did! When it’s an important interest, most European countries find it easier to pretend following America than to openly resist her. More cost-effective if you will.

    Also, it’s not that difficult, given chronically short attention span of US politicians – which Trump definitely did not help.

    The balance to European interests is heavily positive, actually.

    (1) Check https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/USA-EU_-_international_trade_in_goods_statistics : EU exports $384 bn to the US and imports only $232 bn from the US
    (2)

  61. 315. Nevertheless, that won’t be everything, for the idea of creating a European Union has already arisen in various high leaders of Europe, through which the people, who will comprise it, will be greatly limited in their freedom, as well as the various provincial governments that will sell off their countries entrusted to them to this European Union, which will exhibit very strong dictatorial tendencies.
    316. Brussels in Belgium will become the governmental center for this union, and the responsible persons there will acquire tremendous compensations, which will have to be paid by the countries belonging to the union and their populations.
    317. They will call these compensations Fair Pay, for which the citizens of all union-member countries will have to perform hard work in the sweat of their brows.
    318. Through these, the leaders of the European Union will be able to live in the lap of luxury at the expense of the citizens and will be able to laugh at the stupidity of their advocates.
    319. The rulers of the individual countries, as well as those of the European Union in Brussels, will gradually take it so far, even to the point where they will want to sue and punish their rejectors, complainants, and critics.
    320. And the doings of the European Union will ultimately be the decisive reason for the fact that from the east, military forces will invade Europe and will subjugate and destroy everything, if the entire population of Europe and their governments do not rationally work against everything, so that the threatening prophecies do not fulfill themselves.
    ….
    Worldwide natural catastrophes
    As already mentioned, enormous natural catastrophes and rolling walls of fire and violent hurricanes will rage all across America, while, in addition, all the terrible effects of war will bring thousandfold deaths, destruction and annihilation. America’s largest cities will be absolutely destroyed, and firestorms will cause great disaster and misery. Severe earthquakes and volcanic eruptions will also belong to that time, and these will cause much suffering and misery and deaths besides enormous destruction and devastation, as all of nature and the planet itself will rise up against the insanity of human beings on Earth. However, tornadoes, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions will not only rage in America, but also in Europe and in the rest of the world.

    These activities have already begun at the present time, also during the past decades—with the exception that they will become increasingly more devastating in the future. And man of Earth is guilty for the most part today, as also in the future it is man who will destroy the entire environment—all of nature, the atmosphere, water and all the resources of the planet. And through this, a shifting of weight inside the Earth takes place, caused for example by the creation of gigantic lakes by damming and by creating hollow caverns due to the exploitation of petroleum and gas, etc. And thereby unnatural inner-Earth movements are created, which also lead to unnatural tectonic effects and cause earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, which also in turn cause enormous climatic changes, resulting in horrendous tornadoes of devastating proportions which in the end will set their destructive energies free on the entire world. All of this will lead to increasingly horrible floods and unusually massive snowfalls which will advance to the southern countries and finally even to the equatorial regions, because through the insanity of human beings the Earth has begun unnoticeably to spin [strangely] as a consequence of atomic explosions inside and on the surface of the Earth. And this will be the reason that the planet will slowly but surely enter an extraordinary spinning orbit around the Sun, while the first phase is already occurring, which causes a change in climate, leading to a new ice age.

    Civil wars and anarchy in America
    Yet the misery on Earth will continue, as two terrible civil wars will break out in America, whereby one will follow the other. Afterwards, the United States of America will break apart and deadly hostility will prevail among her, which then leads to the division into five different territories; and it cannot be prevented that sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role.

    Anarchy will be the worldwide condition that will prevail and torment human beings over a long period of time, as human beings will also be tormented by the many epidemics and diseases, many of them new and unknown to human beings and for this reason incurable. Due to this fact, the bodies of many human beings will slowly and miserably decay, while unbearable pain will also occur as well as blindness and terrible respiratory problems that lead to suffocation. The consciousness of many human beings will become impaired and succumb to feeblemindedness and insanity. And all these gruesome occurrences will be traceable to biological and chemical weapons, which are the cause of not fast, but gruesome and slow deaths; and this will also occur due to the use of ray and frequency weapons which are already being developed today. Finally, the words of Henoch may be specifically mentioned, which include that mankind of Earth, in pursuit of technology for mass destruction and greed for power, hatred, vengeance and riches, will ignore all values of Creation and will trample upon all values of love, wisdom, freedom and peace, as ancestors of the Henoch lineage have done before, to plunge the world into screaming misery, death, destruction and annihilation and into the most severe catastrophes mankind of Earth will ever have experienced. ∞

    http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215#Wars_and_devastation_in_Europe_and_North_America

    • LOL: Kali
  62. Dumbo says:

    As someone who is familiar with both America and Europe (mostly Italy and Germany), I think that on one hand, as the Portuguese commenter observed, Europe today is completely culturally colonized by the U.S. Empire (Google, Facebook, Hollywood, Netflix), and it shows. The Chinese and Russians are smarter because they have their own search engines (Yandex, VK) or as in the case of the Chinese control it more.

    Poltically, Europe is weak and has no common voice. The EU doesn’t stand for Europe, it seems to actually be an organism created to destroy it.

    On the other hand, I notice less degeneracy and madness in Europe than in the U.S. The weird transexualism, sexual immorality, riots, shootings, all the crazy stuff that you see daily in U.S. major cities, you see (a bit) less of that, people are more “normal”. Even though the young are wannabe “Americans”, so they imported ugly stuff like tattoos, piercings, pink hair, ugly clothes, etc.

    Europe in general has a love/hate relationship with America, they envy its power and cultural influence, on the other hand, they want to ape it. If it wasn’t for America’s influence, ideas such as “multiculturalism”, “we are all immigrants”, “proposition nation” would probably not be so pervasive in Europe.

  63. Dumbo says:
    @RoatanBill

    Religion, and in particular Christianity & Judaism, have been around for millennia.

    I’d say that the most ridiculous ideas are the longest lasting.

    On the other hand, your own “brilliant ideas” don’t seem to last long… Very curious…

    Have you ever thought that if religion has such a strong hold on many people, and lasts for centuries across many societies, perhaps there is a reason for that, instead of simply being “ridiculous”?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  64. Grenell was universally disliked and despised in Germany. I think that possibly the only exception is the health minister. I’ve heard that they were seen going together for a walk in Berlin with their long- legged dogs (I really cannot confirm that). Germans also don’t like American interference with nordstream and want to resist. The major of Sassnitz was really not amused with the threats from American senators (Tom Cotton was one of them) about nordstream. Europeans didn’t accept the end of the agreement with Iran.

    It seems that many people are aware of all this. If you read the readers comments of Der Spiegel you’ll see that most people make negative comments about the way that Germany has been treated in the last times. But fact is that the political elite have been educated as Atlanticists. There is a very strong ideology, there are institutions and finally there are interests. The media follow very strictly the official line. The German economy sells a lot of things in the US and doesn’t want to loose this market. They know that they have to be careful because Germany depends on a fragile balance. We shouldn’t forget that Germany lost wars and it seems that the main lesson for Germans was that Germany has to take the side of the main winner of the wars, the US.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @KenH
  65. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    You’re probably Dutch Calvinist or Reformed Church. We have you in America as well, and generally you live in smaller towns and cities.

    I’ve never been to South Africa, but I’ve roamed the earth for decades and met many of you. London especially.

    The difference is that Dutch Calvinists (Or Reformed Church) are safe from crime in small towns like Holland, Michigan but not Gansbai.

  66. Biff says:

    Good work Fred, and it has always been my dream to see a non-occupied independent free Germany in my lifetime.

  67. @Dumbo

    I believe I know the reason religion has lasted as long as it has. The vast majority of people are stupid, as is evidenced by IQ testing. With the US at an average of 99, stupidity is baked in the cake.

    A very small minority of high IQ individuals provide the world with its inventions to further civilization along. The rest are the worker bees who are conditioned from birth to play their role. It’s their stupidity that prevents them from questioning why things are as they are. Laziness is inculcated into the population in various ways to enforce their predilection for mindless activities like sports and games.

    That’s why a minority of high IQ but evil people become the heads of gov’ts and religious institutions. They absolutely know they are dealing with dolts for the most part that will not only not see through the scam but will root for their team over the other team so as to perpetuate a divide and conquer atmosphere where the oligarchy wins.

    • Replies: @shoot
  68. This is crude ineffective Russian propaganda. When Russia pulls out of Crimea the USA will stop pummeling the Russian Army in Donetsk and Luhansk. Meanwhile the Ruble is 75 to the dollar and Russians eat cabbage soup and potatoes.

  69. Ethne says:

    USA is what helped Europe after WW2.
    Being American is still the best that can happen to a person.
    French are the most depressed country in the world due to the levers of socialist conformity.
    French want to be free, but can’t be in Europe.

    • Replies: @Jake
  70. sonofman says:

    This article is good laughter medicine with the hypothetical presumption that subservience to American government interests by European governments is based upon the consent of the people.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Rurik
  71. Dumbo says:
    @anon

    Films like PIXOTE, which reflect the condition of white Portuguese street children in Rio.

    The ‘street children’ are not “white Portuguese”, they are mostly mixed-race. Also, many of them are not exactly ‘street children’, meaning they have parents or at least other relatives who sometimes abuse them so they’d rather hang out in the streets.

    The actor of “Pixote” (Fernando Ramos da Silva) who was later eventually killed by the police when he reached 18 years old, was clearly mixed-race (and also from the pictures seemed to suffer from alcohol fetal syndrome). Here some pics of him as child and adult:

    child (in the movie):

    adult:

    PIXOTE’s director Babenco is Jewish, so I he sensationalized some aspects of the story… Even though a lot of it is/was reality.

    • Replies: @Jake
  72. Wyatt says:
    @for-the-record

    I genuinely cannot tell if it’s US cultural-propaganda being very effective or if Europeans are just so bereft of pride and humility that they become as bad as black Democrats when it comes to political interpretations. Because even American dems wouldn’t be so bold in their word choice as with that statement you listed. They still have to couch their language deceptively, but lefty Euro trash can just publish whatever retardation they think will sell.

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  73. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    He’s not a Mulatto.

    He’s certainly predominantly Portuguese.

    What would he be? Part Indian? Mestizo?

    He’s got a little snub nose and he’s hairy. He looks Mediterranean white to me?

    What would he be?

    Part Indian?

    What would he be?

    Assuming his ancestors were Portuguese and not African slaves, which does not appear to be the case, why was he poor?

    • Replies: @CCG
  74. @Jus' Sayin'...

    You are forgetting the War on Mexico.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  75. Jake says:
    @Bragadocious

    If by ‘Euros doing fine’ with NATO and Anglo-Zionist Empire overlordship you mean ‘Euro Elites allowed to profit from Anglo-Zionist Empire,’ then you are correct.

    The great issue remains the Anglo-Zionist Empire, which is damned determined to hold and to use The One Ring To Rule Them All.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  76. Jake says:
    @Dumbo

    He looks like he could be any brown Mohammedan from across the globe brutalized terribly by his Mohammedan rulers but blaming Whitey. He also looks like he could be half-Indian/half white or a quarter black and three-quarters white.

  77. Jake says:
    @Ethne

    So you think they should come to America and get to live with Antifa and Black Live Matter?

    France’s worst problems all are about France losing France as the nation was absorbed into a type of service to the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  78. anon[660] • Disclaimer says:
    @UncommonGround

    I think that possibly the only exception is the health minister.

    Indeed, Jens Spahn is supposedly friendly with Grenell. Of course both are homos, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Grenell had anally penetrated Spahn.

  79. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    Brazil is a seriously Catholic country and the film itself reflects this. He wouldn’t be that. At all.

    I’ve lived in Dubai and his nose is not Arab. No Arab has a little snub nose like that. And neither do Mulattos.

    Probably makes him a white who is part Indian.

    I should say made him. The actor was shot when he was 21 years old.

  80. @Bill Jones

    You are forgetting the War on Mexico.

    That’s a more complicated issue than high school history suggests. After the Texan War of Independence was fought — and BTW long-time Mexican residents of Texas hated the Mexican federal government as much as new immigrant settlers from the USA — international boundaries were an ongoing bone of contention. The Mexican government was as belligerent as the USA in creating provocations. Ultimately this drove the USA into a full-scale war. It’s conveniently forgotten now but back then world opinion was that the Mexicans would soundly whip their upstart, Yanqui opponents. Mexico had a large professional army led by the “Napoleon of the Americas”, Santa Ana. The USA had a much smaller army and no generals with a similar reputation. The USA entered the war as an underdog.

    IMHO, the Mexican-American War is far less clearly a US war of aggression than later wars.

  81. KenH says:
    @UncommonGround

    Grenell was universally disliked and despised in Germany

    Ambassadors to Germany typically act like military governors but I guess gay Grenell took it to a whole new level. He proved that homosexuals can be tyrants.

  82. shoot says:
    @macilrae

    Affluence, corroded to “affluence,” among those not destroyed. The good, sometimes referred to as the best, die young, in these infernos. But, how good, let alone best, is it to march, arm in arm, into infernos? Better than being the lone individuals all are, apparently. Death wish projected & reflected wins no matter how it goes in any particular exchange; “the peoples’” perpetual motion machine; bulk lives matter.

  83. CCG says:
    @anon

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Ramos_da_Silva#Early_life

    Unfortunately, he did not have the self-discipline to build on the success of Peixote or bother with school. He returned to his old neighborhood, took up crime and eventually got killed.

  84. shoot says:
    @Beckow

    Prisoners’ dilemma. Altruism is verb form of empathy. “Judoka, aikidoists,” etc rely on that pent in, trying to bust out, momentum to bust up altruists. Biological, not pathological, not logical, just is…& tautological ∞∞∞. X marks the bulls eye, the crossroads Clapton sang about, & the demolition derby point of compulsion/interest.

  85. shoot says:
    @RoatanBill

    “No” atheists in foxholes, whatever the iq. Intellect is no assured trump of the limbic.

  86. Hirflawdd says:

    The US is like the lunatic in the store, you humour him in the hope he doesn’t do anything crazy.

  87. This is probably one of Fred’s shallowest articles.

    Which Europe, west or east?

    Which segments of societies?

    Which countries & ideologies?

    Fred Reed writes as if core, powerful European countries (France, Germany, about UK I don’t know) are basically vassals in all aspects of ….what? Politics? Economy? Culture (popular)? Ideology?

    All I see is that different segments of European countries behave differently. For instance:

    * virtually no European country, big or small, cares about US interventions in the Middle East. Sure, they send a symbolic number of soldiers, but are milking the US all the time re military resources.

    * economy? Who gets the best in exchange between most European countries & the US? Are Americans buying Porsches or various Europeans Chryslers? Simply, most European countries produce better & more varied goods for life & everything (food, clothes, shoes, wash machines, cars, beverages, construction, pharmaceuticals,…). American banks are virtually absent from European banking systems. All US meddling with Iran or China or anything similar has not hurt most European countries a bit.

    * as for popular culture, I would say that some US TV shows dominate. I am not watching TV anymore, but from what I’ve heard, among lower-class viewers are popular also Mexican and Turkish soaps. Films? Hard to tell, I’m not into them long ago, but US production has diminished in popularity, especially with super-hero movies which are seen as something absolutely dumb. Main US sports, American football & baseball are incomprehensible.

    One could add peculiarities of American life (TV evangelism, adoration of entrepreneurs etc.) which are absent. Essentially, most people here- and I am not talking just about non-elite folks- don’t care about Steve Jobs, Elon Musk etc. I wouldn’t have known who these people are hadn’t I stumbled upon them in the media.

    So- who gets better from everything? Americans are, on average, fat people who work themselves to death & are scared of their own shadow (hence guns) and who live to work. Europeans, even those who are still struggling with poverty & higher levels of corruption, like Bulgaria and Romania, work in order to live. To live now, the best years of their lives, and not to think too much about retirement.

    Here, in all Europe, for both wealthy & relatively poor- boss & mortgage are not scary words. Who gives a damn about them?

    So- who gets whom screwed?

  88. Corrupt says:

    Sorry Fred, but as long as American soldiers are the guarantors of European freedom, such things as whether they are dependent on Russia IS our business, whether your isolationist ass appreciates it or not.

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  89. anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    That’s pretty common.

    What race was he though?

    He isn’t black. There is not African in him.

    Is he part Indian?

    If Brazil was settled by people from Northern Portugal, how did they end up created such a vicious race in Brazil?

  90. Corrupt says:
    @Anon

    “Europe can then get to work fixing its muslim and black problems and send these vile creatures back to the pest holes they came from”

    Yeah, like the US was twisting Merkel’s arm to bring in Muslims. What are you smoking?

  91. @Beckow

    I don’t think you appreciate how the US has been the driving force behind that “laziness in life”. WWII was about destroying Europe and reforming it to be what it is. Rosenfeld played the drunken fool Churchill like a fiddle, and ended up with most of the Empire.
    While Britain and France were “victors” on the battlefield, they were bankrupt. The Marshall Plan was about rebuilding Europe to US specifications. While allegedly only applying to Germany (as it did at the start), the “victors” had and have complete control over all aspects of German life, including education, publication, and political life. The German Constitutional Court has ruled, at least twice, that the old riech (Wiemar Republic) still exists. That means the current government is an occupation government.
    The Marshal Plan came with strings attached. That meant changes to the way European countries conducted themselves internally. These were passed off as “reforms”. The EU was a US project, as was the Euro. It’s always about the bankers.
    The last two generations in Europe are indeed “Americanized”, just as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have been Americanized. That was the game plan when the US took over as the reserve currency. The time it has taken to do that is about the same length of time the Chinese communists took to re-educate the Chinese to their way of thinking.
    It’s only the “evil Russkis” that have somewhat survived that onslaught, and who knows how much longer that will last.

  92. shoot says:

    Read Melville’s short stories awhile back. Bartelby’s “I would prefer not to” was in mind re all the covidiocy. One of his other stories is The ‘Gees. A generalization about the Portuguese age of sail sailors that the physiognomy’ists here about might like.

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_%27Gees

    But for what tragic commons nation states have more in common, Portuguese among them, Kurlansky’s Cod is a decent read.

  93. Kali says:
    @anonymous as usual

    By the way, if any Europeans are reading this , trust me, Fred was probably trolling you …. he probably does not really give one thousandth of a f*ck about what you think about America,

    Yup, that was my thinking too. I get the feeling our Fred has been reading Larry Romanoffs’ recent (American bashing) articles and wanted to retaliate somehow.

    His questions are fair enough though, but addressed to the wrong people. That’s to say, he’s asking us ordinary minions why we bend over for Uncle Sam so readily, when we actually don’t. The political class does, in some kind of masochistic eagerness to please the (currently) most powerful nation. Probably because their pretty much all sexual deviants.

    To be a little less flippant though, there is a deeper reason. – When the centre of Jewish Power shifted to the US, it left enough pieces in play over here to ensure Europe and Britain would remain enthral to the Grand Masters of Zion, and that means enthral to Uncle Schlomo in the US.

    Fred isn’t the only one who doesn’t give a toss what we, the ordinary people think or feel about the situation. Zions bum-boys also don’t give a toss; just ask the yellow jackets.

    One commenter, above, suggests that we are too lazy to be bothered to care. That’s not true. Just as over there, the people of Europe are constantly propagandised, have been sold the liberal doctrine of political correctness, common interests, consumerism, etc, etc, regardless of our underlying cultures. And so our attention and focus has been steered in a prescribed direction.
    Millions have seen through the BS though, and for the past decade or two, have been earnestly trying to wake the others up. But over the decades following ww2 the people, particularly the working poor, have been so effectively disenfrachised, apathy now reigns where once upon a time grass roots activists might have stirred…

    … all for zion!

    The centre of Jewish Power will shift again in the near future (unless it is crushed in the process). We’ll see then, if we’re very unlucky, who Uncle Sam bends over for… China? “israel”? Europe?

    My tuppence worth, for what it’s worth.

    Regards, and best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  94. @J

    That’s far, far too high a price to pay to keep the seas and the air open and safe. Humans don’t fly or swim the seas. The seas and the air don’t need to be kept open and safe. Definitely not at that price.

    Go out and hoe your garden.

  95. @Jake

    No, I mean Euros.

    Europeans play the collective responsibility game with Americans all the time. “He’s your President, therefore everything he does reflects on you. Personally.”

    I’m just keeping the rules fair & square.

  96. Beckow says:
    @Kali

    …we are too lazy to be bothered to care. That’s not true.

    Since you dismiss it without telling us why, let me explain what the modern European lazyness is: it is not work, and it is not lack of power as you suggest. It is simply not being serious about life.

    This detached lack of seriousness is everywhere: people lazily put up with crazy fanatics who spout complete idiocies, e.g. the current BLM obsessions, or the previous Merkel migrant march. These unhinged views and the logic behind them doesn’t reach even 5th grade reasoning – but most Europeans tolerate it, or shrug shoulders that it is not impacting them personally, so whatever.

    The lack of taking life as such seriously is endemic in the Euro-culture: escapism and absurdity to the nth degree – substantially more so than even in the very low standards Hollywood. Then you have the unwillingness to have normal families and raise children (because it’s hard), and to carry on one’s culture into the future.

    The argument that others control Europe and therefore nothing can be done doesn’t address the underlying detachment and unwillingness to stand for something – by all historical benchmarks, the current rulers are less powerful and have fewer tools than at almost anytime in the last 1,000 years. The stakes for most people are minimal – there is very little that they would lose if they would express their self-interest. And yet, most are silent and passive. If that’s is not out of some latter-day post-modern lazyness, can you tell us what is it? Maybe something in the food?

  97. @Beckow

    wwebd said, in general agreement with those who agree with me –

    It is wrong to think that the Israelis, or the Chinese, or the perfidious Brits are running anything. Life and the world are not analogous to some sad sack’s shift at the 7-11, where the employees curse out the employers behind their back —–

    Life is fantastically complicated (don’t compare it to a football game, Life makes football games look like a match of checkers in a park filled with hobos, and like I said before, don’t compare it (life, that is, and the world you live your life in) to your old memories of working at minimum wage at the 7-11) …. and Honest people act honestly, and there are honest people in all countries. God bless the Israelis who support Israel, God bless the Chinese who try and do the right thing, and God bless the Brits who want to make the world a better place. And so on and so forth…

    If you carefully read the voluminous assessments Fred makes of people —- well, I am on Fred’s side when he says there is a lot of good in a lot of people, and a lot of bad in a lot of people.

    Stare down whatever is in you that is bad and full of resentment or even hatred. Try and understand the world.

    You might be on the road to failing at being a good person, and, if you do not fail, you are going to go through times where you might fail. Possibly through stupidity, possibly through laziness, possibly because you feel surrounded by ugliness and uselessness. But you do not have to be stupid or lazy, and the World is not useless, it is full of SUBLIME BEAUTY —- YOU KNOW THAT IS TRUE!

    I have been a leader most of my life – not an exceptional or even much of an outstanding leader, but still a leader – and I can guarantee you that most people do not just fail at being what they are supposed to be, they fail at listening to good leadership. Too bad. Seriously, though, no matter how often you have failed, stare down whatever is in you that is bad and full of resentment or even hatred. Try and understand the world. Don’t be a spectator when you can be someone full of peaceful strength. Wisdom – whether thought of as a goal in life, or thought of as the condition in which we and our loved ones try to live, year after year, due to our struggles to understand —– is worth all the efforts any exile from wisdom has ever undertaken to return from the land of foolishness. Proverbs 8.

  98. @Ma Laoshi

    “What are Eurotrash, my flesh and blood, getting out of this?”

    Although I use the word (as a term of endearment), “Eurotrash” is far too broad a church to be useful: the idea of “European” or “Europeans” is pretty poorly-defined.

    Sticky-taping together 20-something quite different nations (and Crom knows how many different ethnic/cultural groups), isn’t going to give a useful composite.

    Even ‘Anglo-Saxon’ is a pretty nebulous idea – it almost-certainly excludes
     • the Bubbles (who invented most ideas we take for granted at a time when Angles, Saxons, Celts and Jutes were wandering around half-naked);
     • the Ities (who were front and centre for the artsy bit of the Renaissance, and were bit-players in the early Enlightenment);
     • the Celtiberians (who did most of their high-class shit – the Alhambra, Grenada etc – while under the Umayyad thrall)
     • the Scandos (who look like AS but only started behaving themselves in the 900s CE).

    If it were up to me, I wouldn’t even include the Frogs: they’re Anglo-Saxon-adjacent, but they defined themselves in contrast to the actual inhabitants of Anglia from the 11th century onwards (1066 and all that).

    The seething throngs from that mess east of Austria (from Poland down and across to Turkey) are certainly not ‘us’, as it were, but they’re certainly part of “Europe” (the land mass, not the statist parasite-hive ‘Union’).

    The culture that everyone thinks of as ‘at risk’ from yon Darkie’s current ebullience, is quite specifically Anglo-Germanic: it’s not ‘European‘ except to the extent that Germany is in Europe.

    Think of how folks reacted when the first wops, spics and Irish arrived in the US – people thought that they would be unable to be assimilated.

    (The Scandos – and to a lesser extent the Swamp Germans [Dutch] – were able to charm their way in, because they are the outright prettiest Europeans – by the length of the straight… but their culture is not the same as the Poms or the Krauts).

    Anyhow… point is, there’s no “European culture” to speak of. Something as tasteless and garish as St Peter’s Basilica or Versailles would have no place in under the Hohenstaufens or the Saxe-Coburg Gothas (current occupants of the Pommie throne) – nor would something as stupid as Sagrada Familia (Gaudi ‘insists upon himself‘, like Picasso, Dali and their ilk).

    Italian music is as pointless as as tin-whistle or klezmer compared to Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Wagner. (Joe Green’s “The Slut” isn’t really that impressive when you stand it next to Der Ring des Nibelungen).

    French and Spanish representational art (the only real kind) is a mixed bag, but never hits the heights of the pre-Rococo Old Masters (especially the Swamp Germans and Ities – the latter peaked in the C16th… I fucking hate Rococo).

    TL;DR: when concerning oneself about the culture of “my flesh and blood“, it pays to be selective – including any old riff-raff from the European land mass is a recipe for disaster, because most of them are mutts whose cultural contribution is either 2 millennia past, or is non-existent.

    For my white bits, “flesh and blood” means only Finns, Danes, Krauts and Poms – with a splash of Spaniard during the 16th century: that composite won’t be harmed by the current frisson. I wouldn’t feel the remotest pang of cultural loss if France wound up 99% Verlan-speaking Beur … and the same is true for Yankistan.

  99. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s the UK or Britain, not “England”. Americans and other foreigners lose credibility when they pass comment on Britain, usually referring to the BRITISH government, but insist on referring to it as “England”.

  100. Kali says:
    @Beckow

    You said:

    Since you dismiss it without telling us why…

    Whereas I had said:

    Just as over there, the people of Europe are constantly propagandised, have been sold the liberal doctrine of political correctness, common interests, consumerism, etc, etc, regardless of our underlying cultures. And so our attention and focus has been steered in a prescribed direction.
    Millions have seen through the BS though, and for the past decade or two, have been earnestly trying to wake the others up. But over the decades following ww2 the people, particularly the working poor, have been so effectively disenfrachised, apathy now reigns

    As you can see, I did tell you why.

    The lack of taking life as such seriously is endemic in the Euro-culture: escapism and absurdity to the nth degree – substantially more so than even in the very low standards Hollywood. Then you have the unwillingness to have normal families and raise children (because it’s hard), and to carry on one’s culture into the future.

    What utter nonsense! Where on earth are you pulling this “merde” from? Raising children, having famiies, certainly for my generation (I’m 52) is central to our culture, and still generally takes place within more or less stable relationships, or at least with both parents involved. Admitedly this may be changing as “climate alarmism” amongst other nihilistic propaganda takes its inevitable toll on younger generations.

    But do explain what you mean by “not taking life seriously”, because the notion is far to vague to get a handle on. Do you mean we enjoy having fun? Enjoy cafe-culture, enjoy literature (yes, even us poor, disenfranchised minions read books! Shocking, I know.)
    Do you mean that when 2 million of us march in London against the Iraq war we’re just messing around with absurdities?
    Or that when similar numbers March in Berlin against totalitarian dictats, we only do it for “shirts and giggles” as the Americanism goes?
    Or that the very French tradition of almost weekly protests about one thing or another, going back decade after decade for decades is just a way to pass the time till Holywood releases a new “America, fuck yeah” blockbuster for our cultural enlightenment?
    Or is it that Brexit, Frexit, Grexit and other nationalists calls for dissolution of the EU are mere hobbies?
    Or could it be that the tradition of protest camps beginning with Greenham Common and continuing to Occupy Parliament Square and community protection camps against fracking are more akin to annual holidays, but with more police brutality and with the holiday-makers getting arrested as a way to unwind?

    Certainly it’s true that we enjoy our leasure, that we enjoy the countryside and the seaside, that we spend whole, entire afternoons talking politics and current affairs just because we can, and that we even laugh in the face of ridiculous lies reported as news. Maybe this is what you’re referring to..? We should be more stressed, more deadly serious and never, never “fart in your general direction” again!?

    Or, wait, hang on! You go on to say:

    The argument that others control Europe and therefore nothing can be done doesn’t address the underlying detachment and unwillingness to stand for something –

    To which I… hmmmm?.., fart in your general direction!” 😀

    Bom dia, dude. Best of luck with the seriousness of it all! But please do, for the sake of your overstressed heart, remember to breathe… In through the nose, out through the nose, belly (not chest) breathing. Do it often.

    Love,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  101. Because unfortunately Europe at the moment is a spineless vassal of the USA. The people are brainwashed with YouTube and other USA social media platforms; the politicians are in Wall Street’s pockets. Europe can only be freed when the USA has become so weak that it can no longer maintain its grip on the continent. By that time, very heavy self-introspection is needed to chart a new course. It will take decades at the very least, if not a century or more, to rebuild an actually strong Europe. Might never happen at all — remember that the Roman empire was NEVER revived.

  102. Finns are geographically Scandinavian but Ural-Hungarian with some Asian admixture unlike the Germanic Swedes, Danes, Norwegians.

    As an American, I agree with an Australian who wants out of the ANZUS treaty. You can guard the Pacific, though the Chinese will probably economically colonize you like they have Indonesia because an entrenched Jewish-Irish elite don’t stand in their way as they do in the US.

    You’ve got loads of Irish-Catholics in Oz, actually one Irish-American media maven named Gibson made his name playing one in Galipoli, but they have not really be important as they have in the US.

    Normans were Vikings and their invasion was a final Viking raid. Norman meant Norsemen.

    Saxons were not wearing loincloths. They had boats and sailed to England.

    I agree with all Australians who want the US out of their hemisphere. Screw ANZUS. Let us spend the money on homeless ex-Navy who clog our streets and let Australia defend Queensland from New Guinea insurgency.

    The US is as far from Australia as possible and has no real influence over Australia. I personally feel Australia is the best country in the world, through no effort of its own. It never had Africans-until the Sudanese were imported. No Mexicans. And somehow New Guineans never got in. You had the same egalitarian attitude as the Americans, but it was not turned as hardcore capitalist as the US. So you did not end up with class-system savagery like the US.

    Spanish colonies are now awful.

  103. Swedes in Stockholm will obsess over charges of racism just like Swedes in Minneapolis.
    Germans in Berlin will be as dutiful and punctual as Germans in Milwaukee.

    I could go on and on with this.

    Whether a Swede lives in Europe or America, a Swede is a Swede.
    Whether a German lives in Europe or America, a German is a German.

    Ad nauseum.

    Unless you believe in “magic dirt.”

    Since the above mentioned and countless other tribes from the old world have lived peacefully
    together in the new world, as opposed to their endless and deadly animosity in the old world, is
    it any wonder as to why they view American morality and leadership as superior to their own?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  104. Why “we” obey? We don’t do. The US makes the Drecksarbeit and we profit by an Trade Surplus, a cheap military run a and payed mostly by and overseas lunatic and we sell anything we want to … No details here.

    The Northstream Gas pipeline (a 2 Tube extention to the existing two) is nearly finished. There was the same trouble decades ago with a land based pipeline. We simply wait until the US lunatics lost interest. Then we build the few miles rest. A proofed process.

    States don’t have friends, they have interests. We do either.

    And sorry, Netflix et. al. is way better than German TV and Film Productions. This cultural hegemony is a better one than the other way around. For all of us ;-).

  105. @mderpelding

    Why does Northern New Jersey have such problems with organized crime?

    Why is it the most corrupt state in the union?

    Why is there so much white-one-white homicide in New Jersey?

    Why doesn’t Tennessee have a problem with organized crime?

    Why was the mafia nipped in the bud in Louisiana with a lynching but flourished in Northern cities?

    Why do Sicilians look part Arabic?

    Why are Cubans considered non-white but Italian-Americans are considered white despite Al Pacino being swarthier than Andy Garcia (Who has been playing Italians all his life so that nobody remembers he is actually Cuban).

    Why are Italian mafia never caught or only caught after 40 killings but the average black only kills one or two people and is caught?

    Why is it when blacks attempt a murder they end up with sloppy collateral damage and a public crime but Italians simply make other Italians disappear?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  106. utu says:

    Why did Fred Reed write this piece? There is a vast category of Americans to which Fred Reed belongs who do not take well criticisms about America when they come from Europeans. You can find Americans like that on both ends of political spectrum. Europeans just irk them when they dare to criticize anything about or in America.. They do not mind that much when the criticism comes from Russians, Brazilians or Chinese but when it comes from French or Scandinavians they are hurt and usually attack back. Writing this article by Fred Reed is a perfect example of this phenomenon.

    There seems to be at play some inferiority-superiority complex. This may explain why Americans are more irked by Europeans than say by Russian or Chinese. For some reason Americans still crave the approval by Europeans while they never gave a damn what Russians or Chinese though. Is it possibly a syndrome of rebellious child who still seeks an approval of its daddy and mommy as if it had second thoughts about the choices it made?

    Alexis de Tocqueville wrote about it.

    “Nothing is more embarrassing in the ordinary intercourse of life than this irritable patriotism of the Americans. A stranger may be very well inclined to praise many of the institutions of their country, but he begs permission to blame some of the peculiarities which he observes – a permission which is, however, inexorably refused. America is therefore a free country, in which, lest anybody should be hurt by your remarks, you are not allowed to speak freely of private individuals, or of the State, of the citizens or of the authorities, of public or of private undertakings, or, in short, of anything at all, except it be of the climate and the soil; and even then Americans will be found ready to defend either the one or the other, as if they had been contrived by the inhabitants of the country.” – Alexis de Tocqueville

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  107. haha says:

    The answer may be simple: American soft power. Minds today, all over the world, are controlled by media, entertainment, and, last but not least, social media. And the media and social media are American dominated. Ergo, minds all over the world are American controlled.

    The hippies, rock-n-roll, hard rock, McDonalds, Hollywood, Facebook managed to accomplish a conquest that no invading army has ever been able to.

  108. Beckow says:
    @Kali

    … the people of Europe are constantly propagandised…focus has been steered in a prescribed direction.
    …people, particularly the working poor, have been so effectively disenfrachised, apathy now reigns

    True. But in my humble view a passive voice description doesn’t get us anywhere. And your explanation is all in passive voice. Now, let’s see, a real explanation requires: by whom, how, and why did it work?

    …having famiies, certainly for my generation is central to our culture, and still generally takes place within more or less stable relationships

    Well, good for you. But the data suggests otherwise. It might only be a marginal shift every 5 years or so (toward less functional family life), but eventually it matters. That may very well be now.

    I enjoy leisure, and Europe has done well in that area. What is lacking is a serious understanding that the catastrophic political decisions that the Europeans of the last 2-3 generations have either actively made or passively let happen are having consequences. And at some point the consequences are what Europe will live in – not much else will remain. You can reject the moniker ‘serious‘ – it might not be the right term for most people – you are free to describe it in other ways. The reason I use it because seriousness implies that one takes responsibility for what happens, in my view it’s unserious to deflect it by talking about propaganda, outside control, or using passive voice. But to each his own, we do have different temperaments.

    One example: I know Germany, I am very familiar with how many Germans think. In 2015, a large majority thought that Merkel was nuts with her ‘welcome‘ culture, they could see the consequences. But almost nobody spoke up forcefully, most thought it was too dangerous. The definition of ‘danger’ was redefined downwards so much that any risk has become unacceptable. That is a sign of a society where seriousness has largely vanished. If one can be intimidated by press clippings and fat women jumping up and down on train platforms, well, what would happen when something real happens? So don’t knock seriousness, we all need it occasionally to keep going what our ancestors have created in the last few thousand years. Or maybe you prefer the light-hearted pleasures of the savanna civilisation?

    By the way, I am a nose breather.

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  109. Corrupt says:
    @Beckow

    “Since you dismiss it without telling us why, let me explain what the modern European lazyness is: it is not work, and it is not lack of power as you suggest. It is simply not being serious about life.”

    This is admittedly anecdotal, but while living in Europe I noted that the people (that I met) seemed to have little ambition in gaining a better position at work, want a better home or more riches, etc… In short, they seemed content (rather than lazy) with their current lot in life, and didn’t seem to want or need more.

  110. Beckow says:
    @utu

    I think this sensitivity is a bit more widespread. Most European nations react badly when others criticise them, even if they just repeat what they themselves say. Tocqueville was quite sensitive about slights against the French.We are still tribal. Nobody makes more fun of the shepherd goat-eaters than I do (trust me, it is almost a daily joke for me), but I will raise my spine the moment you do it.

    It’s not wrong, it is quite natural. We need more tribalism, not less. Life is a lot more interesting that way, and it has a way of assuring continuity generation to generation. Suppressing tribalism is also always selective, it is used by the other tribes against you – if you discard Charlemagne (who was a mass murderer), you will get Wakanda.

  111. Kali says:
    @Beckow

    Hello again, Beckow.

    I feel read only part of what I wrote… again.

    Now, it could be that my explanation was ALL “passive voice” as you say. My description, however, was not. Allow me to refresh your memory, whist sumultaniously taking up the points you make about “seriousness”.

    But do explain what you mean by “not taking life seriously”, because the notion is far to vague to get a handle on. Do you mean we enjoy having fun? Enjoy cafe-culture, enjoy literature (yes, even us poor, disenfranchised minions read books! Shocking, I know.)
    Do you mean that when 2 million of us march in London against the Iraq war we’re just messing around with absurdities?
    Or that when similar numbers March in Berlin against totalitarian dictats, we only do it for “shirts and giggles” as the Americanism goes?
    Or that the very French tradition of almost weekly protests about one thing or another, going back decade after decade for decades is just a way to pass the time till Holywood releases a new “America, fuck yeah” blockbuster for our cultural enlightenment?
    Or is it that Brexit, Frexit, Grexit and other nationalists calls for dissolution of the EU are mere hobbies?
    Or could it be that the tradition of protest camps beginning with Greenham Common and continuing to Occupy Parliament Square and community protection camps against fracking are more akin to annual holidays, but with more police brutality and with the holiday-makers getting arrested as a way to unwind?

    Neither passive, not not serious, I’m sure you’ll (inwardly?) agree. 😀

    But almost nobody spoke up forcefully, most thought it was too dangerous. The definition of ‘danger’ was redefined downwards so much that any risk has become unacceptable.

    And yet, only a few days ago hundreds, of thousands gathered in Berlin against totalitarian restrictions on our/their freedom. So I guess, when the dangers of “objecting forcefully” are perceived as preferable to the risk fascism, our German neighbours ditch the fear and make a stand. “Cometh the hour, Cometh the man”, and all that.

    Could it be that in your example – Merkels’ welcome culture – those who perceived the danger were too few to oppose it? – Of the Germans that I know (predominantly young people in their 30s) 100% are hopelessly “progressive” in their world view, and welcome open boarders.

    So don’t knock seriousness,

    I didn’t. I asked what you meant by your use of the word in a given context.

    By the way, I am a nose breather.

    What, even though I just farted in your general direction!? 😮

    Seriously though, your country is currently descending into all out race war, whilst you take time to tell me how us Old Worlders ought to deal with perceived threats.

    Immigration was only ever a strategy to weaken and divide, as is the race war now manifesting in your cities. Neither immigrants or blacks are the true enemy, though this is how they, and you, have been cast, and incited. It’s too late now. The melting pot is boiling over and you failed to identify the real enemy in time. Now blood will flow in your streets.

    Whilst in Europe “covid deniers” are being cast as literal Nazis (see CJ Hopkins latest) even as their covid narrative disintegrates. So, who knows, blood may flow here, too before long. But maybe, just maybe, the real enemy will be targeted… Class War!

    That’s why it’s important not to take things too seriously, to remember to laugh, and to breathe… we forget when we’re stressed or tense.

    With love,
    Kali

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  112. @Wyatt

    The “lefty Euro trash” you are talking about are part of the same MSM that pervades the whole of the West. The “difference” between the Daily Telegraph and the Guardian or the The Independent or the NYT is that they are aimed at different audiences. As is, I think, the case in the USA, the MSM is run by just a few extremely wealthy families, who are all dominated by the Banking System (Aka the Fed). The only independent source of news is, therefore, to be found by searching the internet and many people do not have the time or opportunity to do that on a regular basis. Most people do not realize this, yet. Some do, I hope the number will grow.

    • Agree: Kali
  113. Sulu says:
    @lavoisier

    Pathological altruism or just plain stupidity?

    Both of those certainly. But a large part of where America is now was formed by the propaganda of the (((media))) If you endlessly repeat the most ridiculous bullshit over and over and maintain that it’s the truth most people will accept it as such.

    As Twain said, “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

    Sulu

  114. Beckow says:
    @Kali

    I read what you said, I simply don’t put much weight in demonstrating without results. You see I am very results oriented – and when looking at what happens, yellow jackets or people storming Reichstag are significant, but with no results, it amounts to noise.

    We should evaluate any political system – incl. what we like to call democracy – based on whether the majority wishes and wants of the population are reflected in what happens. If they are, the system is ‘democratic’. If they are not, the system isn’t no matter how much process minutia and silly rituals you put in place. I call that the caveman test – if a caveman would see it as not reflecting what people want, no amount of academic nonsense can override it.

    Germans that I know (predominantly young people in their 30s) 100% are hopelessly “progressive” in their world view, and welcome open boarders.

    I think not, it is a lot less than that. There is also the fear to express a non-conformist opinion. But you are on to something there – unfortunately.

    I will not comment on the current US troubles and whether it is or can become a race war (I am a European). My view is that past and current search for ‘cheap labor’ is very destructive to a society and eventually destroys it. Unfortunately, the search for the cheapest possible labor is built into the dynamic of capitalism – the system that otherwise has a lot of good features. But there should be a lesson for Europe in this – there are consequences to putting hyper-productivity, cheap labor, open borders on an untouchable pedestal – the spreadsheet tyranny can be every bit as unpleasant as many other kinds. And don’t get me started on Hollywood…

  115. Sulu says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Hillary is without a doubt one of the most corrupt, vile, and monumentally stupid pieces of shit to float to the top of the turd bowl that is American politics. Her time as Secretary of State went a long way to illustrate just how abysmally incompetent an old harridan she really is. She has been riding the coattails of Bill for over 40 years and if not for that she would have been no more than a third rate hillbilly lawyer.

    I think enough rational people that voted in 16 realized on some gut level that she was nothing more than a power hungry old woman that had spent so much of her life close to the flame that she really though she deserved to become President. Luckily America managed to dodge that bullet. Hopefully we can dodge Joe and Ho too.

    Sulu

  116. @João Antunes

    I’ve often wondered, How in the world does any self-respecting nation allow a foreign military presence within its borders? Do they not know what it indicates? You’ve answered the question. Modern infantalized consumers of the cultural imperium by and large have no concept of notions of independence and self-determination.

  117. Rurik says:

    For example, European countries seem to be almost entirely subservient to the US, vassals, protectorates held in quiet contempt by America. Do not you in Europe obey almost every wish of the Americans? Do you not do everything for their benefit, not your own? How could they not scorn you?

    The whole world sees this.

    For example, America seems to be almost entirely subservient to Israel, vassals, protectorates held in quiet contempt by Israelis. Do not you in America obey almost every wish of the Israelis? Do you not do everything for their benefit, not your own? How could they not scorn you?

    The whole world sees this.

    >><<

    Yes, I know, you Brits hide your subservience by saying that you have a “special relationship” with America, as if you were somehow coequals. In reality, the special relationship is only that of Most Servile Vassal.

    But this acceptance of humiliation is not unique to England. You know this. Americans certainly know it.

    Yes, I know, you Yanks hide your subservience by saying that you have a “special relationship” with Israel, as if you were somehow coequals. In reality, the special relationship is only that of Most Servile Vassal.

    But this acceptance of humiliation is not unique to America. You know this. Europeans certainly know it.

    >><<

    All of Europe wanted to trade with Iran, as did Russia and China, countries representing far more population and GDP than America does. and you all supported the nuclear deal. But Washington said no. When Mother America gives orders, you all obey like circus dogs—Why do you do this? When did Europe become a gentleman’s club of bootlickers?

    All of Europe wanted to trade with Iran, as did Russia and China, countries representing far more population and GDP than America does. and you all supported the nuclear deal. But Bibi said no. When Mother Israel gives orders, you all obey like circus dogs—Why do you do this? When did America become a gentleman’s club of bootlickers?

    >><<

    Why do you send European soldiers to fight America’s war in Afghanistan, a country in which you have no stake? Or Iraq? Or anywhere else? Washington regards you as sepoys, as its native troops. It uses you as a fig leaf of respectability to cover America’s unending aggression. But you do it, for America’s benefit, not your own. How charitable of you.

    There is no end to your groveling. You have no need of NATO, the North American Treaty Organization, America’s prison guard in Europe. Countries cannot be sovereign and independent with foreign troops on their soil.

    Why do you send American soldiers to fight Israel’s war in Afghanistan, a country in which you have no stake? Or Iraq? Or anywhere else? Israel regards you as sepoys, as its native troops. It uses you as a fig leaf of respectability to cover Israel’s unending aggression. But you do it, for Israel’s benefit, not your own. How charitable of you.

    There is no end to your groveling. You have no need of NATO, the North American Treaty Organization, Israel’s prison guard in Europe. Countries cannot be sovereign and independent with enemy foreign dual citizens in its halls of power.

    >><<

    Can you not see that America is playing you for fools in its creeping encirclement of Russia? Then, if America starts a war with Russia, it will be fought in…Europe. When was the last time America fought an American war in America? And you don’t even control your own armies.

    “Yass, Bwana. What you say, Bwana. You de boss.” God almighty.

    Can you not see that Israel is playing you for fools in its creeping encirclement of Russia? Then, if America starts a war with Russia, it will be fought in…Europe. When was the last time Jews didn’t use Americans to fight their wars? And you don’t even control your own armies.

    “Yass, Bwana. What you say, Bwana. You de boss.” God almighty.

    America entered into both world wars to serve Zion and Jewish supremacist goals, to enslave Europe to Rothschild’s debt. How did you put it Fred?

    If you control a country’s sources of energy, you control the country.

    Ah yes. What about..

    If you control a country’s access to credit (money), you control the country.

    Where have I heard that before?

    João Antunes says:

    Hi, I am writing from Portugal, Lisbon. Here, the cultural complication of minds by the US Empire is complete. The majority of the people is plugged into Netflix, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and derivatives, so they think they are living in the US. All, and I mean ALL, of our media is anti-Trump and thinks the US is full of evil white people killing everyone else and that the Democrats are the only hope to restore hope and balance in the world. The majority needs, wants and desires a Pax Americana, full of US soldiers all around the world. We want so bad to be Americans we also have BLM protests and “whiteness problems”. We want to be more Democrats than the Democrats so we have away the Portuguese nationality to more than 150000 people last year (we are just 10 million) so we are not only “very diverse and progressive”, we actually are a Trojan horse inside the EU for demographic replacement. The US cultural-complex did a great job here.

    Yes, and if you listen to Fred, he’ll carefully, (while avoiding any verboten subjects like Building Seven.. “Yass, Bwana. What you say, Bwana. You de boss.”) explain that the reason our (((media and Big Tech))) all push a virulently anti-White agenda and the ethno-replacement/genocide of White people in America and Europe, is ‘because of ‘America and Trump’ and those darn White Yankees who’re always pushing people around and bullying them into Eternal Wars for Israel in the Middle East, and a demand that they flood their own nations, (Barbara Spectre style), for the benefit of (implied) White American oil companies and other White American interests.

    Huh Fred?

    It sometimes seems like Fredo has a strange case of myopia when it comes to for ((whose)) benefit are NATO troops in Europe menacing Russia. Or for whose benefit (not Yankee, I can tell you that much), does America send troops to murder and slaughter in the Holy Land.

    I sometimes wonder if Fred would like to make it seem like working class, White Americans like myself, are the ones behind it all. Shoving Europe around and forcing them to host NATO troops.

    But for the record, what guys like me would prefer, is that ALL U.S. troops come home, and a tiny few are placed at the border. We’d like to see Europe protect its borders as well, as we consider Europe our sacred ancestral homelands. And it breaks our hearts to see Europe also under the cruel and genocidal thumb of the ((global central banking cabal)). – Always, always, always demanding goyim slaughter goyim, (world wars I, II and III) for the greater glory of Israel.

    Duh.

    But to point out the obvious, requires that you’re not otherwise too busy genuflecting to the PTB and submissively braying “Yass, Bwana. What you say, Bwana. ((You)) de boss.”

    • Thanks: Kali, Sick of Orcs
  118. Rurik says:
    @sonofman

    This article is good laughter medicine with the hypothetical presumption that subservience to American government interests by European governments is based upon the consent of the people.

    And the article ignores that the American people are just as powerless as the Europeans are, in opposing all the evils that our governments commit in Zion’s interest. (Eternal Wars for Israel, spiritual and cultural sewage, mass-demographic replacements, financial uber-corruption and klepto-crony “capitalism”, Total Surveillance Police States, and the unfolding Orwellian hell on earth they have planned for us all ; ).

    As an American, I can tell you that we hate the belligerence and bullying that zio-America does all over the planet.

    We voted for Trump to end all that madness, and we all know that under Hillary it would have been worse by unimaginable magnitudes. Just as it will under corrupt Biden.

    We Main Street (as opposed to Wall Street) Americans are just like Europeans, and simply want to be left alone to raise our families in peace. But just as Sweden has its Barbara Spectres, so too do we in America have legions of war-mongering ‘neocons’ and cultural Marxists and all the other tribal ‘blessings’ of hatred and strife and corruption and war, that have plagued Europe for centuries, until they arrived here in the early 20th century, and set up shop.

    What bedevils Europe (multiculturalism and forced-diversity), also bedevils us.

    Our cites are burning to the ground, there is widespread murderous hatred in the streets.

    And none of it is organic from the people, but all of it is synthetically imposed by the (((media))), because they hate Donald Trump, and want a completely compliant stooge like Merkel or Macron in the White House.

    I won’t say ‘duh’, but I do believe that all should be brutally obvious to anyone paying the slightest bit attention.

  119. Rooster99 says:

    Well, first of all our ruling class is compromised by CIA-Mossad. Their proclivities are well-known and documented and they better toe the line… or else some unfortunate photographs of a Prince doing a 14 year old girl might surface thus destroying the monarchy. Also only pro-USA and pro-Zionist politicians get Jewish backing which enables them to rise. See David Cameron’s early backers who groomed him for power when he had absolutely no qualification to hold public office but was a glib, shallow puppet easily manipulated.

    Then of course those intelligent, eloquent critics of the neocon project such as John Smith and Robin Cook have a mysterious habit of dying early. Also anyone who says a word against Israel can be accused of anti-semitism and booted out. See Rebecca Long-Bailry, whose crime was to like a tweet from an actress who said that the knee-on-neck technique used on George Floyd was taught to the police by Israeli trainers. That was enough to get her sacked. Plus of course America’s vast military means most Euro nations don’t have to have any serious military. Only Britain and France bring anything to the table.

    • Agree: Sulu
  120. Vidi says:

    Wait a decade or two, Fred, for the Europeans to relinquish the American Empire. That will be soon enough, by historians’ definition of “soon”.

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  121. Vidi says:
    @Vidi

    Wait a decade or two, Fred, for the Europeans to relinquish the American Empire. That will be soon enough, by historians’ definition of “soon”.

    I forgot to add why I think the Europeans will eventually leave the Empire.

    But first, I want to say why I think they like being where they are. The reason is simple: there have been no major wars in Europe since the US took over. (Though a Serb might quibble with my definition of “major”.) This single fact makes the Europeans think that their cringing and their grovelling have all been worthwhile.

    However, now that Europe’s GDP exceeds the US’s, the Empire’s long-term interest is to cut the Europeans down to size by getting them to fight the Russians. A bloody war like that would also cut the Russians down to size, which would very much be in the Empire’s interest as well.

    This is a rather cynical view, but it is something that at least the European leadership is probably considering (and by “leadership” I don’t mean the politicians). At the moment, US-philia has a lot of momentum among the average people, and that will take a while to dissipate. Eventually, however, the realization that they are being used — and brainwashed into suicide — will dawn on nearly everyone in Europe. And that is when they’ll start to leave the Empire.

  122. ThoDan says:

    The UK is NOT Europe.
    Afghanistan: Pacta sunt servanda. We hold our alliances and honor our commitments

    We did cancel Nordstream, when , where, how?
    maybe we will do now to sanction Putin harder

  123. @Jeff Stryker

    I haven’t heard of New Jersey having any riots. Could the Mafia have anything to do with keeping these blacks in check? What’s a few disappeared Italian crooks compared to peace for the general public? Not saying it will hold. Chicago was once Mafia ruled but look at it now. If only the Mafia would come back and take it over again.

  124. I think that you are right, Fred. The American Empire is almost universally hated here. It’s generally perceived to be this aggressive and hostile foreign force which controls us from the outside. It’s actually quite funny… that’s one thing all political groups and movements here seem to accept without dissent: we don’t like the American Empire and we would give much to be finally free from it’s clutches.

    Now, I should be more precise: we don’t hate Americans themselves, since they are practically the serfs of the Empire. We just hate the Empire itself. We wish it would come crumbling down and we would finally be released from it’s deathgrip.

    I find it fascinating that Americans seem to think of themselves as these free people who are fighters for liberal values, whereas the Soviets were right in one thing: America is a brutal Empire. I recall how much cheering was here when the Empire had a financial crisis in 2008. So many prayed and hoped that it would finally collapse and fuck off from our borders.

  125. @Jakob Ellias Frederickson

    And yet your governments do America’s bidding, and join in the sanctions and the wars.

  126. @Commentator Mike

    We’re basically vassal states, Mike. The same way Thracia used to be a vassal of Rome. We have the illusion of being “free nations”.

  127. Tsigantes says:
    @João Antunes

    I am very sorry to hear that Portugal is so brainwashed and unable to think for itself. This is maybe exacerbated by Brazil being so Americanised and Portugal being on the Atlantic? Your situation does not apply in all European countries however. The Greeks are quite the opposite.

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  128. Tsigantes says:

    Dear Mr. Reed, I’m astonished at your naivety.

    The short answer is that the EU [not all of Europe please note] is US occupied territory a la Okinawa.

    But it goes far beyond this – it is not simply an old fashioned military occupation which could be dealt with straightforwardly, successfully or not. The truth is that every American embassy in the EU is a CIA-Mossad MIC base camp (and increasingly LOOK like military bases in Iraq, or high security prisons) from which orders to the various governments are given, regime change ops planned and undertaken, terrorist operations deployed, assassinations carried out, ‘acts of nature’ such as massive forest fires [think Peleponessos 2007] used as warnings etc. Meanwhile I assume you’ve heard of GLADIO, the Safari Club, The Lobby, etc. etc.

    Add to this that most – not all, thank God – upper level politicians in every country are from multi-generational compradore ‘elites’ [in other words, well paid traitors] , especially in the former Great Power countries of Germany, France and Britain. though that is the core colonial infrastructure. The hated EU itself is an American invention. As for NATO – which morphed from No Action Talk Only pre-1989 to Out-of-Area Illegal Invasion force after, it is not as if the countries have any choice.

    Furthermore, the US’s colony? master? Israel sandwiches the EU from the east with its illegal nuclear weapons. This west Asian country has been inserted unofficially into both NATO and the EU, and gifted an air force base next to the US Navy EU HQ Souda base in Crete – a gift imposed from Washington of course, Greece had no say in the matter. Greece was also forced to accept a one way SOFA agreement with Israel, a gas/oil exploration deal and an electrical grid deal in which Israel can turn off the electricity in Greece and Cyprus anytime it wants. The Lobby has its own Jewish EU parliament inside the toothless EU Parliament paid for by US tax dollars and run by the Knesset.

    Top this off with the multiple administrative layers of the completely non-democratic EU and NATO
    and sure, EU Europeans are acquiescent – until they are not.

    However I would not make the mistake of thinking that EU Europeans don’t see and understand this, nor that the various national militaries do not work for their own countries first and foremost and have plans against The Day. Further I would point out that the US grip on ‘free Europe’ [now expanded and re-branded] has increased exponentially since 1989, ‘on steroids’ as they say, so that it is now totally ‘in your face’ and without pretence….compared to the earlier Pax Americana imposed on a shattered post war Europe with sweeteners.

    Although the first commenter above attested to the Portuguese belief in and addiction to US propaganda and junk entertainment, this state of affairs is hardly universal. US propaganda has never worked, not then, not now. one reason being the American unwillingness to bother with foreign languages. Another being the ability of nations to know their own history [all of which contradict The Narrative] and having been witnesses and participants in the war devastation and the wars and coups that followed. Israeli propaganda is simply a waste of their own [US] money. And there is a continent wide understanding & allergy to Soros / Antifa / Black Bloc.

    EU Europeans are temporarily captive – like South Korea, like Japan – but not stupid. And we understand that it is not forever and that what comes after will be dangerous.

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  129. Tsigantes says:
    @Boomthorkell

    Don’t kid yourself. Most Europeans tell Americans what they think they want to hear and treat them with kid gloves, especially US military personnel.

    Furthermore the universal perception – not just European – is that Americans are uneducated, low IQ and massively propagandised so the polite messaging to Americans is aimed to the simplest level. Your remarks here attest to this. You might be bright yourself, but you fell into the oldest trap going and believed them…not smart!

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  130. Tsigantes says:
    @Bragadocious

    Yes, because Sarkozy is an Israeli-American puppet who was shoehorned in by TPTB in a fixed election and just in time. After they had taken out DSK in a stitch up. [Tony Blair and Merkel were also nobodies that came “out of the blue” to power, in the same way as Obama – all puppets. Christine LaGarde, another puppet, was Sarkozy’s Finance Minister.

    As you say, Sarkozy immediately put France back into NATO [to the French Military’s horror] and launched the attack on Libya for puppet Obama / Killary.

    Following this they launched the financial attack on Greece.

    All but Merkel and LaGarde of these time servers are out of power now but – on the face of things determined to regain control at any expense. The ‘expense’ of breaking up the USA after bankrupting it….

  131. How is it ALL “free” nations mentioned have open borders save one?

    The answer may not surprise you.

  132. @Tsigantes

    Oh, some have sense, sure. Maybe even millions, and they aren’t wrong about Americans. Still, I’ve had close friends abroad who, when I spoke of things like, “an end to NATO”, “Russia isn’t the real enemy,” and “Civilizational decay,” they looked at me aghast. I’ve heard a few agree, but I’ve seen the face of true believers, as I’ve seen amongst American voters. The worst part is my Dutch friend who told me how the Dutch were screwed into joining the EU, but still thought I was a monster for opposing pride parades, and told me they needed the protection of NATO.

    The main point to my post is, “European elites are thoroughly integrated with a transatlantic elite,” though I’ve read good points about anti-Russian catholic\german crusader influence, so maybe it’s not even they are “our” lap dogs, as much as “the alliance is the best way for the War to finally be won.”

    Besides, if Europeans as a whole were as sensible as you were saying, that means they are quite aware of what their countries are doing, and support it.

  133. Kali says:
    @Tsigantes

    Your situation does not apply in all European countries however. The Greeks are quite the opposite.

    Actually, I’m not sure that it belongs to all of Portugal either.

    Certainly there is a tendency toward conformity amongst the older generations and within some of the more densely populated areas. But where I live (cental portugal) sizable numbers of young and middle aged people reject the “new normal” when NOT under peer pressure to conform.
    And many, many of the younger generations can and do think for themselves.

    I hope this reassures! 🙂

    Love,
    Kali.

  134. Kali says:
    @Tsigantes

    Had there been any “Excellent Comment” tag available, I would have used it.

    Thank you for articulating so well, and so clearly, our situation here.

    Much love,
    Kali.

  135. @Jakob Ellias Frederickson

    I find it fascinating that Americans seem to think of themselves as these free people who are fighters for liberal values, whereas the Soviets were right in one thing: America is a brutal Empire. I recall how much cheering was here when the Empire had a financial crisis in 2008. So many prayed and hoped that it would finally collapse and fuck off from our borders.

    When America stumbles, as it’s shaping up to do, the world will kick it in the back and stand on its neck forever after.

    Thinking that desirable used to be a counter-cultural fad among American children; a few short generations later it’s almost part of the Democrat platform. The European Union comprises teenagers living rent free in their uncle Sam’s upholstered basement, behind his guarded walls, disdainful of the wealth that makes it possible. Foolish children foreign and domestic want him to fail, with childish lack of thought for what will fill the vacuum.

    Be careful what you want, kids. You’ve been taught to want this for a hundred years. It looks like you’re about to get it good and hard.

  136. @Driveby Rando

    You are missing the point. I am not from the European Union nor am I in favor of an autocracy which gets ruled from Brussels. One incompetent Empire is not better than the other. They are both useless and damaging to the extreme. The European Union is little more than a European version of the American Empire. Some call it jokingly “the United Nations of Europe”.

    You also seem to indicate that being against an oppressive and hostile foreign power is a bad idea. May I ask why? What right does the USA have in ruling over us? What do we even have in common with the Anglo-Saxons? Not language, not ethnicity, not mindset, not culture and not even religion. Let me be more precise: “Uncle Sam” isn’t wanted here. He should pack his stuff and return home. But like you said, this might come sooner than everyone here hopes. Good riddance!

    As for the “new power”: it’s quite amusing, to be honest. We used to be a part of the Soviet Union. It’s absurd to phrase it in such terms, but the USSR was actually less damaging to our people than the American McDonald’s Empire. You might be right, there might be a new Empire which comes after the American one, but let’s be realistic here: was there ever an Empire which was as damaging as the US Empire? I mean look at the Americans themselves: what effect did the Empire’s politics and philosophies have on the average citizen since the last one hundred years? Were these effects positive or highly negative?

  137. @haha

    “The answer may be simple: American soft power. Minds today, all over the world, are controlled by media, entertainment, and, last but not least, social media. And the media and social media are American dominated. Ergo, minds all over the world are American controlled.

    The hippies, rock-n-roll, hard rock, McDonalds, Hollywood, Facebook managed to accomplish a conquest that no invading army has ever been able to.”

    All I can say to this is amen!

    I would pin your words if I could. McDonald’s, Hollywood and Facebook were more damaging to our people than decades under the heels of the Soviets. The “spoiled whore” culture and fashion and the mindless consumerism were worse for us than the bayonets and the tanks of the Soviets.

  138. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    The crumbling of the US- imposed liberal western universalist paradigm, that started with the catastrophic Iraqi invasion and continues with the ascent of the Trumpian mercantilist world view, is ushering in a process of multipolar regional-based powers consolidation on the world stage. In that context the EU must finally decide if it’s real strategic interests coincide with seeking a closer relationship with Russia as geography, economy and culture dictate or continuing the kind of submissive ‘special relationship’ the US is already practicing with the newly post-Brexit UK.

  139. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @anon

    > “Also, many more white women came to the US. Why? We don’t know? It probably goes back to Northern European liberality with more women doing what they wished.”

    This is the most important part. It’s because the Anglos were more Judaized and more racially hateful against the Negroes. Judaism helps to create an ethnostate if you are not allowed to be Pagan; Negroes can’t grow sugar in northern latitudes; the communities were rural, consisting of small deranged cults, thus women were there; miscegenation was not tolerated. Females indeed had more freedom in the North Sea, not sure how it meshed with Judaism, however.

    P.S. This article by Fred Reed and the first comment by João Antunes are 100% amazing. NATO is not needed because both France and the UK have nuclear weapons to defend Poland against a Russian attack.

    From history, the Achaean and the Aetolian Leagues come to mind. Slaves to Macedon for centuries, eventually consumed by China.. err, the Roman Republic.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaean_League
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aetolian_League

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