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Why did the Cockatoo-in-Chief renege on the Iran deal deeply prized by Russia, China, France, Germany, England, and the European Union? Why did he deliberately damage relations with Europe and cost American workers many thousands of jobs at Boeing among others? Why do all of this to hurt a country that poses no danger to the United States?

Israel.

Israel, Israel. Israel. Israel.

Always Israel.

If Iran were a threat to the existence of Israel, things would be different. If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

But Iran does not threaten the existence of Israel. It does threaten Israel’s dominance in the Mid-East. Iran is far larger and more populous than Israel, strategically located, and has vast amounts of oil. It is a large market for many European products. By contrast, Israel is small and has nothing anyone needs or wants. Left to itself, Iran would become the dominant regional power. It moves fast in that direction now with burgeoning trade with Europe in, among many other things, airliners. With economic influence comes political influence.

Consequently Israel does not want Iran to prosper. If it can, Israel will use the American military to prevent this prospering. It will destroy America’s relations with the rest of the world to prevent it. It is doing so.

As thinking people know, the twaddle about the Iranian’s development of an atomic bomb is just that–twaddle. The Europeans know this, which is why they are not alarmed. The US government know it, since the intelligence agencies have repeatedly said that Iran does not have a program aimed at producing a nuclear weapon.

But: Whenever the American government, or those controlling it, wants to drive the US into a war, it invents a frightening danger and warns of it over and over and over until a poorly educated public believes it: The Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq’s WMD, the Iranian bomb. It’s a frightening world, Washington tells us. Things go bump in the night. Boo.

Where does Trump fit into this? Although his supporters offer him as a masterly statesman, biographies, which few read, show him to be profoundly ignorant, incoherent, narcissistic, weak, and easily manipulated. He loves attention and craves praise. He is also corrupt. As a businessman he danced just this side of the law in many shady real-estate deals. All of this is documented, but few will read of it.

Some will say that this isn’t true. Go back and look at the things he said during the campaign, the positions he was going to take before he was modified. He astonished people who worked in his White House not just by his lack of knowledge but his lack of interest in learning. We are ruled by a histrionic dwarf.

But, in a country with no checks and balances on presidential power, foreign policy is what he says it is, and America attacks whoever he wants it to attack.

So why did he ditch the Iran deal? There is of course anti-Jewish posting on the web to the effect that the Jews are manipulating the government to go to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel. This doesn’t hold water, or only a little water. Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans. This probably is because they are more attentive and better informed than the notoriously clueless US public. (e.g. JStreet and WashPost.) But while “the Jews” didn’t sink the Iran deal, a comparatively small number of Israel-firsters did. These are the Neocons, warlike and heavily Jewish, plus the Jewish lobby AIPAC plus a few Jewish billionaires. Collectively they determine American foreign policy, and not for the benefit of America–which, again, has nothing to gain and much to lose by being manipulated into a war that does not matter to America.

Members of AIPAC are often accused of dual loyalty. I don’t think so, though it is the best we can hope for. They should recuse themselves, though of course they will not.

The assertion that America should fight only wars in the America interest will be called, sigh, anti-Semitism. It is not. Yes, there exists in some quarters an obsessive, grinding hatred of Jews. Historically this hostility has been common if not universal and has led to brutal pogroms. But it has nothing to do with war against Iran. The desire for America to have an independent foreign policy hardly suggests a Cossack mentality. There is no reason to let Israel and a small set of Israeli patriots in New York force policies much to the harm of the United States.

But this is not at all unlikely. In Washington–where I worked in journalism for decades–fear of Jews is so great that no one dares say what a great many are thinking. It gets ridiculous. I remember many years back interviewing in the Pentagon the general who headed the armor command, whose name I forget. In such interviews there is usually a babysitter present, often a major from public affairs, who tries to manage spin.

The general and I were chatting about tanks, in which we both had a technical interest. He commented that the Merkava, a home-brew Israel tank, was reasonably good but not in a class with the American M1. As inflammatory comments go, this was truly lame. Yet when I left, the babysitter came charging down the corridor to assure me that the general was not insulting the Israeli tank, the general didn’t mean, and the major hoped I wouldn’t think etc. It’s that crazy.

ORDER IT NOW

Whether Trump believes what he says about Iran’s imaginary lunge for a Bomb is not clear. In Washington it is routine to lie about this or that dreadful danger so as to herd the deplorables toward a desired folly–but is Trump herding or herded? He is clueless about things military and appears to have no grasp of technology. Geography is not his strong suit, as witness his invention of a country called “Nambia.” Netanyahu and the Neocons outclass him by a wide margin and apparently drive him like a truck.

If Trump were an American President, he would tell the Israelis to fight their own wars with their own military. Is he? Watch.

Fred Reed is a retired news weasel and part-time sociopath living in Mexico with his wife and three useless but agreeable street dogs.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. If there’s a column to be written that reflects the elite consensus of Western Europe and its sneering attitude towards the United States, Fred Reed is sure to write it. That is unless he’s writing a column reflecting the elite consensus of Mexico City. He’ll do that one too.

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    If there’s a column to be written that reflects the elite consensus of Western Europe and its sneering attitude towards the United States, Fred Reed is sure to write it.
     
    Does sneering put you off?

    Trump's and Netanyahoo's sneering at the rest of the world must really have you in a tizzy and you have my sympathy.
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  2. Where have you been hiding this Fred, Fred?

    This hard-hitting, well-written article seems to have issued from a different pen than the one you usually wield. I’m not criticizing the other Fred as I enjoy reading his columns irrespective of my agreeing with what he may have said or left unsaid. But generally, the guy who writes under the pen name Fred is a little more circumspect in discussing IsraelFirsters, or so it seems to me. If I’m mistaken I’m sure the clamoring commenters will correct me by showing how this piece too, is just a backhanded Zionist ploy to lull me into letting my guard down etc.

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    • Replies: @macilrae

    generally, the guy who writes under the pen name Fred is a little more circumspect in discussing Israel
     
    The circumspection (pragmatism?) which necessarily attended Fred's time as a successful journalist still hovers over his shoulder as he writes here.

    You have to form your sentences extremely carefully lest you step over the line which marks you as an anti-Semite - a ranting racist: your words thereby discounted. Now Israel's (and of course Netanyahu's) behavior has become so outrageous of late that none but the most extreme zealots can possibly defend it: it is astounding that so many of these still exist. Therefore it's increasingly possible to 'criticize Israel' and not become a known Nazi - although your name will probably appear on a list somewhere.

    What we can say is that Jewish community encompasses more than its fair share of the above zealots - and it has seemingly always done so - eventually, through their excesses and the unwillingness of their fellows to renounce them, bringing down yet another holocaust.

    This pattern has been repeated too many times not to happen again.

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  3. Fred,
    It took a while (your entire career up until this month) for you to criticize Zionism, Israel, or Jews, but by golly, you’ve done it! Congratulations.

    Obviously not all Jews have it in for the goyim. If they did (to cite the most immediate example) Ron Unz would not be providing this superb outpost of free speech.

    Nevertheless, Israel lobby war criminals, billionaires & politicians do not exist in a vacuum, isolated from all other Jews. If you doubt that, tell the next Jew you meet 6 million is bullshit. Paraphrase that however you please, but question the Holocau$t at your own risk.

    Monika Schaefer did exact that in this video, and now she’s in prison:
    — (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkuyApMZnlQ&bpctr=1526160603 ]

    As we see, JewTube butts into Monika’s page, disabling “Certain features” & warning us not to look. If we’re not intimidated by the JewTube warning and look anyway, we see JewTube inserts its own link — to the Jewish Telegraph Agency / bnaibrith_ca. In that Jew link, we are assured that Monika deserves to spend perhaps years more in a German prison — because she dared (in Canada) to disagree with the Official Jewish Version of WWII History.

    Most Jews don’t fancy you questioning their Holocau$t. Do you dare, Fred?

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Hello Pat,

    Lots more on Monika Shaefer here:

    'German fiddler, Frau Schaefer, renounces indoctrination & apologizes to family for once believing in the impossible + more'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10448

    The world is getting the truth about The Usual Enemies of Free Speech and the lies they have profited from.

    www.codoh.com

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  4. Rurik says:

    herd the deplorables toward a desired folly

    couldn’t resist, could ya Fred?

    for the record, the deplorables are and have been the least ‘herd-able’ members of the ZUSA demographic. We’re the ones who know that our congress is Zionist occupied territory, that the media is Jewish supremacist owned, (which is why it specifically hates our deplorable, white, straight, male guts more than it hates anyone or anything else. Which, for a people known for a singularly unique capacity to hate, is saying a lot!) and that our central bank, (and consequently everything else of consequence, including the potus) are controlled ultimately by Zionist, Jewish supremacist Jews.

    And that goes for Western Europe as well. Duh.

    We’re the ones that have been pointing out for decades that the ZUSA foreign policy is treasonous and wrong, murderous, criminal and Satanic. (how other than ‘Satanic’ can you characterize torturing innocents, terrorizing entire nations with terror drones, and assassination goon squads? Bombing and destroying country after country on behalf of a nation and people that hate your guts, and laugh at the idea of your children dying to kill their rivals)

    Such a deal!

    But. nevertheless, it’s nice to see that at long last, Fred is loosening the chains around his own mind, and trickling out some dire truths.

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    Here here
    , @Dani
    Rurik, this awake & aware white lady of Polish & Ukrainian descent applauds your highly accurate posting. I am well aware of the fact, too, that there are many others out there mirroring your words in other forums and on other platforms.
    We've been conditioned for so long that it is going to take a little more time to shake this leg cramp off.
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  5. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

    No it wouldn’t. Israel is no more the responsibility of the American tax payer than Rwanda was. Israel has made it’s bed, let it lie in it.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Chris rightly said:

    "Israel has made it’s bed, let it lie in it."

    This is what the little Israeli mama's boy rely on:

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/639563970a638b606f4adb0ef05c778b/tumblr_inline_o7t4eewwJn1r75mb5_500.jpg

    www.codoh.com

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  6. pyrrhus says:

    If Iran were a threat to the existence of Israel, things would be different. If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

    Why is that? I thought you had gotten over the Policeman of the World syndrome, Fred.

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  7. Fred wrote that were the situation reversed the Muslims would treat the Jews even worse than the Jews treat them but where does he draw this presumption from? Iran is said to have the largest population of Jews in the ME outside of Israel and they even have representation in the Iranian parliament. Many of them are highly critical of Israel and don’t consider it to be the real deal.

    There have always been Jews living in the ME when the power equation was reversed and yet they stayed and they survived. Prior to the unrestrained violence of the Jews in the Nakba relations appeared to be quite cordial.

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  8. Rich says:

    The Israelis are always looking for enemies to fight, and Iran, as a large country with a decent sized military and deeply Islamic government, is a possible threat, but I don’t think Israel is the main reason most American leaders are for keeping pressure on Iran . I’d say the Saudis and the petrodollar are the main reason for the US trying to keep Iran poor and on the defensive. The Iranians will never accept American control over the Mideast oil supply, while the Saudis have signed on as long as we provide military protection. If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble. That won’t be allowed to happen without a fight.

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    Nice try, but the Saudi lobby doesn't run the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.

    You know perfectly well (((who))) does:

    "...I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."

    ( http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19 )
    -- "Who runs Hollywood? C'mon" (Joel Stein, L.A. Times)

    , @HogHappenin
    Deflecting blame when lying your way out using your "superior" verbal IQ doesn't work has been the cornerstone of the hasbara crowd pullers.

    Unfortunately for you, most readers here are not your regular breitbart lads! Most of us are relatively well read and have jobs and definitely don't live in our mom's basements!! So please let's face the issues head on and no, tom-foolery wouldn't work here!

    We are sick and tired of the realm of ZOG that we just can't seem to extricate ourselves from, fighting their bloody wars, killing innocents, our young men and women dying for the sake of Israel!

    The Saudis do have a lobby but they are nowhere as powerful as those of the "chosen ones". If they did we'd be seeing a completely different picture on gulf arabs in our movies and the media

    , @Rurik

    If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble.
     
    good!

    the 'petrodollar' / Federal Reserve Note / fiat debt slavery for the planet, is the weapon with which the Fiend menaces mankind.

    the sooner it implodes, the better. And I'm a working class American who would suffer economically from such an event, which I nonetheless pray for to happen, and happen soon.

    @Ken:

    he might try to pin it all on the alt-right just like the alt-right is the only thing standing in the way of racial amity between white and mestizo and a black-brown utopia in America.
     
    well, I don't see a whole lot of difference between the Deplorables and the alt-right. And he never misses a chance to sling vitriol at the Deplorables - people who're slated for the ash-heap of history, and expected to pay for the privilege.

    The Deplorables / alt-right, are the very people who resisted the wars and liars who foist them. They're the people who demand the Rule of Law, and that includes International Laws as well.

    It's rather inconvenient for those people who would like to select which laws they feel suit their agendas.

    The zio-cons that Fred here tepidly laments, find international laws inconvenient, and so they ignore them.

    Fred's patrons find N. America's immigration laws inconvenient, and so he calls anyone who recognizes them 'deplorable' (and racist and gas station louts).

    Deplorables = alt-right = Rule of Law = peace = truth.

    zio-con scum (and their apologists) = wars = debt = Total surveillance police state = transformational, unlimited immigration = hatred = strife = criminality = centralized power = exploding wealth gap = Zionist absolute control of all information and governments and implementation of Orwellian hell on earth so that everyone becomes equal.

    quite a stark difference in world views.
    , @1RW
    As usual, it’s both. Foreign Influencer #1 and Foreign Influencer #2 are terrified of Iran for a number of reasons. Frankly, if we ditch them both and ally with Iran we’d have more influence in the region. JK, Iran needs us far less than the other two. Anyway, go figure, our “friends” play us like a fiddle and get their problems solved.
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  9. Members of AIPAC are often accused of dual loyalty.

    [Hollow laughter]

    Members of AIPAC have only one loyalty: Israel.

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  10. @Rich
    The Israelis are always looking for enemies to fight, and Iran, as a large country with a decent sized military and deeply Islamic government, is a possible threat, but I don't think Israel is the main reason most American leaders are for keeping pressure on Iran . I'd say the Saudis and the petrodollar are the main reason for the US trying to keep Iran poor and on the defensive. The Iranians will never accept American control over the Mideast oil supply, while the Saudis have signed on as long as we provide military protection. If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble. That won't be allowed to happen without a fight.

    Nice try, but the Saudi lobby doesn’t run the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.

    You know perfectly well (((who))) does:

    “…I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.”

    ( http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19 )
    — “Who runs Hollywood? C’mon” (Joel Stein, L.A. Times)

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    Excellent response, Pat !!! (Mais, bien sure !)

    Still I think the troll should get a participation prize for his effort.

    , @Wally
    Who runs Hollywood & the media?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34f3a02c70471d86059812f8553ef878a4b89db7188ea04dc11a76060a9c839a.jpg
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4b03c46ae11fa4dc949dea39a782917edd59d79366e53dd0ac904ec01e8f6054.jpg
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/08c96c44ab68834c82543c6033bc3128fcf3b29ffce9da5706a32cde111aeaa0.jpg

    www.codoh.com
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  11. anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:

    If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme.

    Perfidious Racist Reed can’t suppress his Islamophobia even for a moment, in an essay critical of Jewevil influence!

    History shows that Jews have lived reasonably well in Islamic lands, in stark contrast to the “sodomising” they received from the Chrizzies.

    To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

    Those American terrorists are already being used to satanic effect, you degenerate. Remember Reed, this is the evil that has cursed your kind to Hell.

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  12. I always enjoy reading Fred’s perspective. There’s always some truth to it.

    That said, Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front and in foreign policy, particularly in Korea. Yes, Trump has dealt with some shady characters in his real estate dealings in NYC and Atlantic City. It is impossible to be a major player in real estate in these venues otherwise.

    I consider his experience in dealing with these shady characters a positive, not a negative. Trump is a hardened real world actor, not an idealistic academic.

    He’s a lot smarter than Fred, a situation uniquely likely to cause these outpourings of jealousy by Fred.

    I have the odd feeling that Trump’s supposedly idiot policy toward the Middle East will be as successful as his supposedly idiot policy toward Korea.

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    You said it "he's an actor" Trumps a slime ball and he has a long record to prove it,as far as the N.Korea deal goes it will be a no go, because no matter how much Kim offers it will never be enough,and lets not even get into the fiscal mess with Trump only making it worse, for that too within its own time will straighten itself out,but not to our liking I'm sure.!!!
    , @EliteCommInc.
    "That said, Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front and in foreign policy, particularly in Korea."


    Misreading greater government spending as healthy signs of the economy is as accurate as think what took place on Korea was the result of Pres Trump.
    , @MarkinLA
    Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front

    This always bugs me, people believing that the President did something that had any significant effect on the economy. Granted the masses will want to believe this and Trump will likely still have a GOP House and Senate but Trump is just in a better place than Obama was. Reagan was in a similar sweet spot (inflation tamed and PC industry exploding) but his policies led to the real estate bust that screwed GHWB. Along comes Clinton just as the mess is turning around and he gets the dot com kicker (which he did nothing to cause) as a bonus. GWB gets the bust but engineers a bubble of his own. Unfortunately it bursts on his watch.

    The idea that some change to an economic theory is more important than the rising of new industries and the falling of old ones is something that only people as stupid and as full of themselves as economists (PCR) could believe.
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  13. Brabantian says: • Website

    Trump’s backing out of the Iran deal has raised the price of oil by ‘escalating middle East tensions’

    Saudis who sell oil are profiting, and they are barely-hidden good friends of the Israelis

    Russians who sell beaucoup oil are profiting, and they are, despite what Unz’s Saker-Faker says, good friends of the Israelis

    Trump’s buddies in US shale oil debt, are profiting and getting a bail-out, and they and Trump are good friends of the Israelis

    The US petro-dollar is profiting and getting an extra boost of life, as higher-price oil-sales by Saudis and others get recycled into US dollars

    Iran which sells oil is profiting, and they too may be ultimately in the game with the Israelis, ‘the best enemy money can buy’, like the old Soviet Union was for the US … the UK economist Antony Sutton proving half a century ago that the ‘Cold War’ was a scam

    Win – win – win, it seems – oil buyers such as Europe being the ‘losers’ – with some common soldiers and people, cannon fodder, being dead in the middle East, to make it all look legit

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  14. llloyd says: • Website

    Iran stuck rigorously to the agreement despite its humiliating and provocative nature. WTF does only Iran have to comply to this intrusive inspection on nuclear power? To appease Israel of course that doesn’t lose any sleep over Iran’s nuclear energy. It is America that has broken it. I have entertained the thought Iran is Aryan, words linguistically related, and therefore honourable with its international agreements. America is now Judaic and thus dishonourable. True, Iran is Moslem. But its national religion is Shiite which is dissenting Islam and Iran’s true religious roots are Zoroaster. Islamophobic Zionists thought Iran would break their agreement and they have been caught out by their own ignorance and bigotry.

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  15. macilrae says:
    @ThreeCranes
    Where have you been hiding this Fred, Fred?

    This hard-hitting, well-written article seems to have issued from a different pen than the one you usually wield. I'm not criticizing the other Fred as I enjoy reading his columns irrespective of my agreeing with what he may have said or left unsaid. But generally, the guy who writes under the pen name Fred is a little more circumspect in discussing IsraelFirsters, or so it seems to me. If I'm mistaken I'm sure the clamoring commenters will correct me by showing how this piece too, is just a backhanded Zionist ploy to lull me into letting my guard down etc.

    generally, the guy who writes under the pen name Fred is a little more circumspect in discussing Israel

    The circumspection (pragmatism?) which necessarily attended Fred’s time as a successful journalist still hovers over his shoulder as he writes here.

    You have to form your sentences extremely carefully lest you step over the line which marks you as an anti-Semite – a ranting racist: your words thereby discounted. Now Israel’s (and of course Netanyahu’s) behavior has become so outrageous of late that none but the most extreme zealots can possibly defend it: it is astounding that so many of these still exist. Therefore it’s increasingly possible to ‘criticize Israel’ and not become a known Nazi – although your name will probably appear on a list somewhere.

    What we can say is that Jewish community encompasses more than its fair share of the above zealots – and it has seemingly always done so – eventually, through their excesses and the unwillingness of their fellows to renounce them, bringing down yet another holocaust.

    This pattern has been repeated too many times not to happen again.

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  16. It would be extremely politically correct and would be excoriated, of course, but this creates an opening for a presidential campaign based on the slogan “no more Jewish wars.” All it takes is somebody with the courage to go all out against neoliberalism and political correctness. Unfortunately, the history of the Nazi regime is still enabling the Israelis to wag the yankee dog and, while aping Nazi barbarism, still get a free pass for their own war crimes while inciting the yankee regime to be a world-wide dangerous bully, the volume of whose crimes (consider Yemen where a massive famine killing millions is likely) is approaching the benchmark set by the Nazi regime.

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    Didn't the guy running against Ryan - Paul Nehlen do this and was immediately denounced by everybody including the GOP?
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  17.  Why do all of this to hurt a country that poses no danger to the United States?

    Israel.

    Israel, Israel. Israel. Israel.

    Always Israel.

    Money.

    Money.Money.Money.Money

    Always Money.

    Trump, King of the Deal, is looking forward to the 120+billion, Jimmy Carter took from Iran, earning interest in our vaults.  Prediction: Trump reverses: rewrites the deal; keeps their Money, pleases us all.

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2018/05/12/handicapping-the-race-the-bet-is-onits-humankind-to-win/

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    How?
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  18. KenH says:

    Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans.

    Maybe, but they’re also not calling attention to the skullduggery and machinations of AIPAC, Bibi and and Likud party in trying to get another war started. Jews favoring the deal aren’t going to rock the boat with their fellow Jews who are against it.

    Trump is just Bibi’s pawn like I feared he would be.

    I’m still in shock that Fred had the cajones to criticize Bibi and Israel and call them out for the hostilities and looming war with Iran . I figured he might try to pin it all on the alt-right just like the alt-right is the only thing standing in the way of racial amity between white and mestizo and a black-brown utopia in America.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    "Trump is just Bibi’s pawn like I feared he would be."

    Imagine Hillary.
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  19. Leist says:

    Its been fascinating how in the latest propaganda campaign that Iran’s nuclear weapons program has suddenly become real. Before, while this deal was being negotiated, almost all the world’s intelligence agencies agreed that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons. Only the Israelis disagreed. The war-war-war-and-more-endless-war factions of the American deep state said Iran was making nuclear weapons, but even then the official intelligence estimates said they were not.

    There is a lot of very slippery language around this. Before the deal, America and especially the pro-war media, had a way of talking about “Iran’s nuclear program”. This was a reference to Iran’s legal and permitted civilian nuclear program, but done in a scary and threatening way that made the audience assume that it was about Iran’s nuclear weapons, which is was not. Now, Trump takes this even further and rants and yells about “Iran’s nuclear research” as if that was the same thing as a program producing nuclear weapons, which of course it is not.

    Trump is destroying America standing in the world and tearing apart the trans-Atlantic alliance all over a mythical nuclear weapons program that the Ayatollah had banned as being “un-Islamic” and which all the world’s intelligence agencies agreed that Iran did not possess.

    Talk about very bad deals.

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    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a "special exemption" granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…
    , @MarkinLA
    Be optimistic. This might finally cause Europe to kick the US to the curb and NATO can finally be dissolved and we can finally stop sticking our noses into European affairs.

    There was one thing Osama Bin Laden said that was true and that was that the only way to get rid of the Americans is to kick them out.
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  20. Sporting says:

    “Trump is just Bibi’s pawn like I feared he would be.”

    Technically, Trump and Bibi are both Sheldon Adleson’s pawns, as the casino owner finances the campaigns of both.

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    Technically, Trump and Bibi are both Sheldon Adleson’s pawns, as the casino owner finances the campaigns of both.
     
    Adelson's money comes from productive Americans, as do the billion$ funneled to Israel from the US government. Thus do we finance our own destruction. Irony is hell, ain't it?
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  21. @Sporting
    "Trump is just Bibi’s pawn like I feared he would be."

    Technically, Trump and Bibi are both Sheldon Adleson's pawns, as the casino owner finances the campaigns of both.

    Technically, Trump and Bibi are both Sheldon Adleson’s pawns, as the casino owner finances the campaigns of both.

    Adelson’s money comes from productive Americans, as do the billion$ funneled to Israel from the US government. Thus do we finance our own destruction. Irony is hell, ain’t it?

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    "Adelson’s money comes from productive Americans" who foolishly spend their money on gambling.
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  22. bluedog says:
    @Shouting Thomas
    I always enjoy reading Fred's perspective. There's always some truth to it.

    That said, Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front and in foreign policy, particularly in Korea. Yes, Trump has dealt with some shady characters in his real estate dealings in NYC and Atlantic City. It is impossible to be a major player in real estate in these venues otherwise.

    I consider his experience in dealing with these shady characters a positive, not a negative. Trump is a hardened real world actor, not an idealistic academic.

    He's a lot smarter than Fred, a situation uniquely likely to cause these outpourings of jealousy by Fred.

    I have the odd feeling that Trump's supposedly idiot policy toward the Middle East will be as successful as his supposedly idiot policy toward Korea.

    You said it “he’s an actor” Trumps a slime ball and he has a long record to prove it,as far as the N.Korea deal goes it will be a no go, because no matter how much Kim offers it will never be enough,and lets not even get into the fiscal mess with Trump only making it worse, for that too within its own time will straighten itself out,but not to our liking I’m sure.!!!

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  23. utu says:
    @manorchurch

    Technically, Trump and Bibi are both Sheldon Adleson’s pawns, as the casino owner finances the campaigns of both.
     
    Adelson's money comes from productive Americans, as do the billion$ funneled to Israel from the US government. Thus do we finance our own destruction. Irony is hell, ain't it?

    “Adelson’s money comes from productive Americans” who foolishly spend their money on gambling.

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    “Adelson’s money comes from productive Americans” who foolishly spend their money on gambling.
     
    So sorry, no intersection between "productive" and "foolishly spend".

    Hey, look up "invidious" for me, will ya? My dictionary's broke.
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    Trump is a Norwegian Scottish Troll.

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  25. @utu
    "Adelson’s money comes from productive Americans" who foolishly spend their money on gambling.

    “Adelson’s money comes from productive Americans” who foolishly spend their money on gambling.

    So sorry, no intersection between “productive” and “foolishly spend”.

    Hey, look up “invidious” for me, will ya? My dictionary’s broke.

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  26. @Rich
    The Israelis are always looking for enemies to fight, and Iran, as a large country with a decent sized military and deeply Islamic government, is a possible threat, but I don't think Israel is the main reason most American leaders are for keeping pressure on Iran . I'd say the Saudis and the petrodollar are the main reason for the US trying to keep Iran poor and on the defensive. The Iranians will never accept American control over the Mideast oil supply, while the Saudis have signed on as long as we provide military protection. If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble. That won't be allowed to happen without a fight.

    Deflecting blame when lying your way out using your “superior” verbal IQ doesn’t work has been the cornerstone of the hasbara crowd pullers.

    Unfortunately for you, most readers here are not your regular breitbart lads! Most of us are relatively well read and have jobs and definitely don’t live in our mom’s basements!! So please let’s face the issues head on and no, tom-foolery wouldn’t work here!

    We are sick and tired of the realm of ZOG that we just can’t seem to extricate ourselves from, fighting their bloody wars, killing innocents, our young men and women dying for the sake of Israel!

    The Saudis do have a lobby but they are nowhere as powerful as those of the “chosen ones”. If they did we’d be seeing a completely different picture on gulf arabs in our movies and the media

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  27. chris says:

    But while “the Jews” didn’t sink the Iran deal, a comparatively small number of Israel-firsters did.

    Fair enough, Fred; but then, where are the voices of the rest of them ? You’re not suggesting that “comparatively small number” of them are controlling the whole discussion, are you?

    Unless we hear a clear protest from ‘the rest of them’ in the near future, I would rather posit that, in spite of their recorded support for the deal, they will tacitly acquiesce to Trump’s actions to help build the ‘greater Israel.’

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    Liberal Jews are just relatively quiet enablers. They complain mildly about the "uncomfortable and unhelpful" nature of the illiberal acts of Israel, but that's all. They virtue signal to stroke themselves, and to attempt to look "compassionate". But never more than that. When all is said and done, no matter the criminality of the Zionist project, they still support Israel. They deal in excuses, never justice. It's the tribal thing. To speak and act against Israel's crimes, is to betray the tribe, to renounce their Jewish identity. They can't do it. That's the old way. The new way, with the truth available courtesy of the internet, makes it easier for the younger Jews to stand for justice.

    I'm an American and a jew, and an old trouble-making anarchist type jew. I would like to see Israelis turn the shjt around, admit the mistake/crimes of the past, and work to set things right, but I'm absolutely convinced there is no way that's gonna happen. My fellow Jews have been fuckjng over people for five thousand years. The leopard and his spots. And it always ends badly for them. And it will be the same this time. They think there nukes will save them. Just the opposite. When the Russians see the Israelis developing nuke tech that will allow them to penetrate Russian defenses, they will be forced to preemptively defang Israel.

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  28. chris says:
    @Pat Kittle
    Nice try, but the Saudi lobby doesn't run the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.

    You know perfectly well (((who))) does:

    "...I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."

    ( http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19 )
    -- "Who runs Hollywood? C'mon" (Joel Stein, L.A. Times)

    Excellent response, Pat !!! (Mais, bien sure !)

    Still I think the troll should get a participation prize for his effort.

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  29. Tbbh says:

    Disallowing right click searches is STILL INFURIATING, and if I wanted to pirate your content, it is easy to do.

    Does Mr Unz even understand how the web works?

    Inconveniencing your regular readers is MORONIC.

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    But implying that a wildly successful IT entrepreneur, who does some of the programming for his own successful website, doesn’t understand the internet as well as you do, well, that’s not moronic, eh?
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  30. Zumbuddi says:
    @Robert Magill

     Why do all of this to hurt a country that poses no danger to the United States?

    Israel.

    Israel, Israel. Israel. Israel.

    Always Israel.

     

    Money.

    Money.Money.Money.Money

    Always Money.

    Trump, King of the Deal, is looking forward to the 120+billion, Jimmy Carter took from Iran, earning interest in our vaults.  Prediction: Trump reverses: rewrites the deal; keeps their Money, pleases us all.

    https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2018/05/12/handicapping-the-race-the-bet-is-onits-humankind-to-win/

    How?

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    What?
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  31. Wally says:
    @Pat Kittle
    Nice try, but the Saudi lobby doesn't run the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.

    You know perfectly well (((who))) does:

    "...I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."

    ( http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19 )
    -- "Who runs Hollywood? C'mon" (Joel Stein, L.A. Times)

    Who runs Hollywood & the media?

    http://www.codoh.com

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  32. Wally says:
    @KenH

    Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans.
     
    Maybe, but they're also not calling attention to the skullduggery and machinations of AIPAC, Bibi and and Likud party in trying to get another war started. Jews favoring the deal aren't going to rock the boat with their fellow Jews who are against it.

    Trump is just Bibi's pawn like I feared he would be.

    I'm still in shock that Fred had the cajones to criticize Bibi and Israel and call them out for the hostilities and looming war with Iran . I figured he might try to pin it all on the alt-right just like the alt-right is the only thing standing in the way of racial amity between white and mestizo and a black-brown utopia in America.

    “Trump is just Bibi’s pawn like I feared he would be.”

    Imagine Hillary.

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  33. Why is it that following upon writing the words ‘anti-semitic’ Mr Reed proceeds to throw his brains out of the window?

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    This is a huge step for Fred.

    Despite his carefully manicured swagger, when it comes to the JQ he's as scared as any politician.

    But he's now crossed the Rubicon -- he no longer can pretend he doesn't know what he's seen here.

    If (IF) he continues to show good faith we should fraternally encourage his continued awakening.
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  34. polistra says:

    Bibi and Donnie are still playing the unipolar game, asserting and assuming sole and total power, in a world where other powers are now bigger and more attractive.

    The good part: Israel and US really don’t matter any more. The Silk Road links Europe, Asia and Africa without any connections through the Western Hemisphere.

    Persia has linked its fate Eastward, which means that Russia and China will protect it if attacked. On top of that, Germany and France are suddenly popping up as a THIRD major center of power, linked with Persia but not with Russia.

    The best part: The more Bibi and Donnie assert, the more countries abandon the side. It’s a self-eliminating power move.

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    Germany and France will be impoverished, dangerous, chaotic Islamic / african hellholes, not particularly significant economically or politically or culturally. Otherwise, your comment is right on about the Silk Road rail/highway route enhancing China and Russia at the expense of the USA.

    USA should have been involved in a positive way. Too late now.
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  35. It may be that Trump knows quite well that Kennedy was killed two weeks after he threatened Israel not to sell them arms any more, if they continued developing their atomic bomb.
    Avner Cohen,’Israel and the Bomb’, New York 1998
    An interesting aspect of the book is that this period of two weeks has been more or less buried.

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    JFK was murdered because he went against the Deep State, and that includes his desire to stop Israel from illegally developing nukes.

    Jews began their war against the Kennedys because of Joe, who realized the machinations of various Brit Elites and American WASP Elites and Jews to make certain there would be a WW2. And, as makes perfect sense going back to the very beginning of WASP culture, the desires of Jews and WASP Elites were a perfect match.
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  36. Trains from China are already arriving in Europe and England to trade on the new silk roads. France is building a new dairy factory at the end of the line, This giant Eurasian continent brings wonderful new possibilities and up to a point makes the EU irrelevant.
    America’s only hope is non stop war to defend the worthless petrodollar which is only kept afloat by the alliance with the Saudis and Arab oil producers.

    https://followthemoney.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system-part-1/

    Now that China and Russia are trading in oil using the Yuan, a currency backed by real Gold, America has no other choice but endless war, and I hope to God we can avoid WW3. Whatever happens there are going to be some very profound changes coming our way. There can never be any real change without some upset.

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    Cannot see why:
    - EU is becoming irrelevant
    - the USA must continue wars
    On the contrary, the USA must stop spending huge sums on wars that just cost money.
    Both the USA and the EU are pretty much autarcic, EU trade with non EU countries is just some 5% of gross EU income.
    Do not know the figure for the USA, but it must be in the same order of magnitude.
    The dollar indeed is a huge problem, but what will happen if the USA no longer pays interest on and amortisation of loans ?
    Not much, I suppose.
    A country cannot go bankrupt.
    Maybe China would have the biggest problem, the Chinese regime fails in making Chinese consume, they save.
    If export is no longer possible, huge unemployment will result.
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  37. sarz says:

    The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms. I would give the quote but am unable to copy because of all the fancy software. But use your ‘find in page’ for “pogrom”. Note that the word is Russian, meaning something like excessive violence.

    That the author is talking off the top of his head is forgivable. We are most of us carrying the same load of crap. But it would be good to see the level of scholarship here at Unz equal to that at the Dailystormer, from where I get this quote:

    In actual fact, the idea of pogroms in the Russian Empire, in which “thousands of Jews were slaughtered” has been utterly debunked. They’ve been debunked not by an obscure “Far Right” think-tank, but by Professor John Klier – a widely respected scholar and non-Jewish former head of the British Association for Jewish Studies who published his findings in a number of volumes via Cambridge University Press (I summarize Klier’s findings here). Among Klier’s findings, the most important of which can be found in Russians, Jews and the Pogroms of 1881-82 (2011) was that the vast majority of pogrom narratives were developed and disseminated by a single Prussian Rabbi – Yizhak Rülf. According to Klier, Rülf specialized in “sensationalized accounts of mass rape.” These accounts would then be disseminated in the Western media with the help of Jewish journalists, and used by groups like the British-based Russo-Jewish Committee to push for Western government ‘action’ against the Tsar. Despite contemporary British government investigations which revealed that no rapes had occurred and perhaps only one or two murders had been committed throughout the Russian Empire, and because most of the general public will never hear about the research of Professor Klier, the myth of thousands of massacred Jews in eastern pogroms remains in the popular consciousness, and is obviously still very deeply embedded in the Jewish folk memory.

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    Good comment.

    With respect to the sufferings of the "chosen people", the Talmudist mindset is prone to falsification, dissimulation, gross exaggeration and the most awful calumnies imaginable against the goyim, particularly those who are perceived as insufficiently zealous in their sycophancy and deference to the tribe's crystalline sensibilities.

    "Russian pogroms" are simply a useful myth to deflect the horrendous mass atrocities carried out by the kosher Bolshevik regime. The 19th century had its "Russian pogroms" and the 20th century had its so called "Holocaust", which was also, in large part, a free invention of the Talmudic mindset and Jewish control of the mass media, along with Soviet and British/Allied war propaganda thrown in for good measure.

    After all, the chosen must always have a useful pseudo- moral foil to deflect the exposure of Jewish criminality.
    , @wally
    said:
    "The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms."

    What "pogroms"?
    All anyone sees & hears are The Usual Enemies of Free Speech / Zionist empty claims, hardly reliable, to say the least.
    So where's the proof?


    "Some stories are true that never happened."
    - Elie Wiesel
     
    www.codoh.com
    , @renfro
    Thanks for tip on Klier's books...going to read them....meanwhile here's one reader's review
    .....

    Imperial Russia's Jewish Question, 1855-1881
    https://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Question-1855-1881-Cambridge-Post-Soviet/dp/0521023815

    ''As an example of the latter, consider the views of V. T. Zotov. Klier writes, (quote) If there was any merit to the argument that the faults of the Jews were the consequence of Christian persecution, it could not hold for Russia where the Jews had been treated "like guests" since the partitions of Poland. The Jews had borne neither serfdom nor lifetime military service. Schools were built for them. Yet the West Russian Talmudists wanted more rights while still retaining the Talmud and looking down on the goyim. Having said this, Zotov professed not to disdain the entire Jewish race, but only its evildoers. (unquote). (p. 58
    The foregoing position enjoyed broad support. For instance, even liberal Russian newspapers rejected the position (or exculpation) that external conditions are solely responsible for the objectionable ways that Jews think and act. (pp. 376-377).

    JEWS AND FARMING

    ''It has been argued that Jews were stuck in narrow roles, such as the middleman and usurer, because they were forbidden by law to become farmers. This is a half-truth. The tsarist government had actually tried to get Jews to do "productive" work by promoting Jewish agricultural colonies since 1804. (p. 301). The government "relentlessly pursued" these schemes (p. 30), but they ended up a failure. (p. 265).

    LANDED ESTATES: JEWISH-RUSSIAN COLLABORATION AGAINST POLES

    The author does not specify how Jews acquired the estates of Polish owners who had been deported to Siberia in reprisal for the January 1863 Insurrection (thus being a mirror-image of Poles acquiring post-Jewish property after the Holocaust, as moralized by neo-Stalinist Jan T. Gross). Instead, Klier emphasizes the foundering of Russian efforts to use Jews against Poles because of Russian ambivalence towards Jews. However, he provides some clues related to joint Jewish-Russian actions against Poles.

    For a time, Jews were allowed by the tsarist authorities to acquire Polish land. Klier comments, (quote) Thus, the decree of 26 April 1862, which gave the Jews in the Southwestern and Western Regions the right to purchase gentry land, assumed that the Jews were allies of the Russian cause in the Ukraine. (unquote). (p. 185).

    A few years later, Jews were forbidden to own land. However, they came to possess land through indirect means. (p. 290). Leaseholding of land by Jews became common. (p. 306). Regardless of the exact details and successes of impending land-possession arrangements, a group of influential Jews did attempt to actively collaborate with the Russian authorities against Polish interests. Klier comments, (quote) Jews were permitted to lease gentry estates, but this was not enough for a group of first and second guild Jewish merchants in the Ukraine, who petitioned the Governor-General, I. I. Vasilchikov, for the right to acquire unsettled estates. Vasilchikov, a firm believer in using the Jews as an anti-Polish force in the region, was the right man to approach. He argued to the Jewish Committee that sale of estates to Jews would have the beneficial effect of taking them out of Polish hands...It was impolitic to tell the Poles what the government really hoped would happen to their land. (unquote). (p. 301).

    JEWISH ELITISM, AND SELF-INTERESTED ASSIMILATION

    The resistance of many Jews to acculturation and assimilation is usually framed in terms of the consideration that doing so would cause an unacceptable loss of essential Judaic elements (e. g, p. 103), or that a strongly Christian majoritarian atmosphere made it difficult for Jews to "fit" into gentile society. In addition, Jews must maintain their particularism as an antidote to anti-Semitism and the lack of Jewish legal equality with gentiles. (e. g, p. 106).

    However, Jewish attitudes have also been animated by the notion that the GOYIM are unworthy of Jewish assimilation--that is, unless the local Jews decide that their self-interest indicates otherwise, or that the nation in which they live is, or becomes, "good enough"--in Jewish opinion--to merit the Jews' assimilation. Jewish Germanophilia also became a factor. The foregoing lines of thinking are exemplified by an article in the Jewish newspaper SION, which rejected linguistic acculturation (let alone assimilation). Klier comments, (quote) SION offered its own list of reasons why the Empire's Jews were slow to speak Russian, none of them very flattering to Russians. On a daily basis, Yiddish served the Jews as the language of a separate caste of tradesmen within the wider society. Where economic necessity required the Jews to acquire another language, such as Ukrainian, they easily did so. Russian culture offered nothing that Jews saw as worthy of imitation, in contrast to German culture. There was even a "German Party" of Jews in Russia, seeking to introduce their fellows to the cultural riches of Germany. (unquote). (p. 106).

    In what is perhaps an ironic reversal of the minority conforming to the majority, the article in SION specified the economic and cultural terms that could make Russia worthy of Jewish acculturation and assimilation. Klier writes, (quote) Russian participation in the commercial life of the Empire must grow sufficiently to force knowledge of Russian out of economic necessity. The institutional network of Russian culture must expand sufficiently to justify and expedite its adoption by Jews. (unquote). (p. 107).


    Russia Gathers Her Jews: The Origins of the "Jewish Question" in Russia, 1772-1825
    https://www.amazon.com/Russia-Gathers-Her-Jews-1772-1825/dp/0875809839/ref=pd_sbs_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0875809839&pd_rd_r=JW3PYDZ0RTV8N0BWJEM9&pd_rd_w=w2grU&pd_rd_wg=4LTse&psc=1&refRID=JW3PYDZ0RTV8N0BWJEM9
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    It should be remembered that historically Jews did not live in Russia until the second partition of Poland, when large numbers of Jews came under Russian rule and they were stripped of the privileges that the Polish nobility had granted them (as feudal landlords). It is not surprising that there is so much collective hostility by Jews towards Russia today, as well as myth-making and diversion from the historical context of their relationship with Europeans.
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  38. @corstopitum
    Trains from China are already arriving in Europe and England to trade on the new silk roads. France is building a new dairy factory at the end of the line, This giant Eurasian continent brings wonderful new possibilities and up to a point makes the EU irrelevant.
    America's only hope is non stop war to defend the worthless petrodollar which is only kept afloat by the alliance with the Saudis and Arab oil producers.
    https://followthemoney.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system-part-1/

    Now that China and Russia are trading in oil using the Yuan, a currency backed by real Gold, America has no other choice but endless war, and I hope to God we can avoid WW3. Whatever happens there are going to be some very profound changes coming our way. There can never be any real change without some upset.

    Cannot see why:
    - EU is becoming irrelevant
    - the USA must continue wars
    On the contrary, the USA must stop spending huge sums on wars that just cost money.
    Both the USA and the EU are pretty much autarcic, EU trade with non EU countries is just some 5% of gross EU income.
    Do not know the figure for the USA, but it must be in the same order of magnitude.
    The dollar indeed is a huge problem, but what will happen if the USA no longer pays interest on and amortisation of loans ?
    Not much, I suppose.
    A country cannot go bankrupt.
    Maybe China would have the biggest problem, the Chinese regime fails in making Chinese consume, they save.
    If export is no longer possible, huge unemployment will result.

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    If you cannot see why the US 'must' start endless wars, then you know far too little about WASP culture and the history of the British Empire.
    , @corstopitum
    Didn't you read the article?
    , @corstopitum
    I'm no expert but maybe these people understand better than you and I.

    https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/China-Prepares-Death-Blow-To-The-Dollar.HTML

    Can you tell me why I shouldn't take this seriously?
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  39. Jake says:

    Fred is correct that Israel does not want Iran to prosper, which means that Israel would have finagled a plan to have the US destroy Iran even if Iran had not tinkered with nukes. It has to do with Arab vs. Indo-European. The Israelis and their American Jewish bros and worldwide Jewry assume that on averages, Iranians will be smarter and have a better work ethic than any Arabs, which means that if left alone. Iran could come to dominate the Moslem Middle East. And that easily could lead to Israel being made little more than a tiny dot wit nukes the US backs to the hilt.

    Jews know that Arabs are like them Semitic, and the core-deep culture says to ally with 1 Arab nation is better for Jews. So Saudi Arabia is in.

    The Saudis would do virtually anything in order to be the top dog of the Moslem world, because then Saudis would destroy all political power tied to Shiites, and steal all oil wells controlled by Shiites, giving nearly 100% of it to Sunni Arabs.

    The Jewish plan is to enable various Mohammedans to slaughter one another, which means they cannot be focused on Israel, and to use the US to supply the money and manpower to jump start every move and play it out.

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    "The Jewish plan is to enable various Mohammedans to slaughter one another, which means they cannot be focused on Israel."
    -- This is known as Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. A blueprint for the ongoing slaughter. So Jewishly "most moral."
    Oded Yinon, "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties," Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. Belmont, Massachusetts, 1982, Special Document No. 1, ISBN 0-937694-56-8
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33220.htm
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  40. Jake says:
    @jilles dykstra
    It may be that Trump knows quite well that Kennedy was killed two weeks after he threatened Israel not to sell them arms any more, if they continued developing their atomic bomb.
    Avner Cohen,’Israel and the Bomb’, New York 1998
    An interesting aspect of the book is that this period of two weeks has been more or less buried.

    JFK was murdered because he went against the Deep State, and that includes his desire to stop Israel from illegally developing nukes.

    Jews began their war against the Kennedys because of Joe, who realized the machinations of various Brit Elites and American WASP Elites and Jews to make certain there would be a WW2. And, as makes perfect sense going back to the very beginning of WASP culture, the desires of Jews and WASP Elites were a perfect match.

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  41. Jake says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Cannot see why:
    - EU is becoming irrelevant
    - the USA must continue wars
    On the contrary, the USA must stop spending huge sums on wars that just cost money.
    Both the USA and the EU are pretty much autarcic, EU trade with non EU countries is just some 5% of gross EU income.
    Do not know the figure for the USA, but it must be in the same order of magnitude.
    The dollar indeed is a huge problem, but what will happen if the USA no longer pays interest on and amortisation of loans ?
    Not much, I suppose.
    A country cannot go bankrupt.
    Maybe China would have the biggest problem, the Chinese regime fails in making Chinese consume, they save.
    If export is no longer possible, huge unemployment will result.

    If you cannot see why the US ‘must’ start endless wars, then you know far too little about WASP culture and the history of the British Empire.

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    Does your 'must' mean 'wants to' ?
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    On a daily call in show that typically refrains from mentioning, or permitting mention of, negative comments about Jews or Israel, mention of killing of 37 Palestinians crept into coverage of the blessed event of opening US embassy in Jerusalem.

    Within about 10 minutes at least 4 callers registered their disgust with Israel and shame at support by US taxes and politicians -- Lindsey Graham & Ted Cruz were named & shamed.

    One take aeay: if more Americans Knew of Israel's vile behavior, the worm would turn and quickly.
    I hope I'm not thinking wishfully, this boil on humanity's butt needs lancing.
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  43. @Zumbuddi
    How?

    What?

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    How is Trump going to get back the $150 billion Iran has already received?

    Are you suggesting that that is what the decision of Jew York southern District (kangaroo) court that held Iran liable for 9/11 was about?

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  44. This probably is because they are more attentive and better informed than the notoriously clueless US public.

    Or one Fweddie Reed.

    Anyone who makes a statement like this, not in jest,

    If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse.

    makes some poor encephalomalacic seem positively brilliant in comparison.

    Shuddup, will ya?

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  45. @Bragadocious
    If there's a column to be written that reflects the elite consensus of Western Europe and its sneering attitude towards the United States, Fred Reed is sure to write it. That is unless he's writing a column reflecting the elite consensus of Mexico City. He'll do that one too.

    If there’s a column to be written that reflects the elite consensus of Western Europe and its sneering attitude towards the United States, Fred Reed is sure to write it.

    Does sneering put you off?

    Trump’s and Netanyahoo’s sneering at the rest of the world must really have you in a tizzy and you have my sympathy.

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    Trump’s and Netanyahoo’s sneering at the rest of the world must really have you in a tizzy and you have my sympathy.

    In a tizzy? Quite the opposite. Trump's moves to piss off our so-called "allies" is a fantastic development.
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  46. “Why did he deliberately damage relations with Europe and cost American workers many thousands of jobs at Boeing among others?”

    Boeing’s paperwork never got out of OFAC … no jobs were lost by backing away from the deal.

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  47. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:

    Why would’t Iran want to develop a bomb to deter Israelis from attacking them?

    At the same time, isn’t it a good thing to prevent Iran from developing a bomb because another Islamic country with nukes is a bad thing because Muslims are as a group terrible people who wish ill on non-Muslims?

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  48. Israel and its ziocons control every facet of the U.S. gov and the proof is that they did 911 and got away with it.

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    Where is the proof they did 911 sir?
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  49. Zumbuddi says:
    @Robert Magill
    What?

    How is Trump going to get back the $150 billion Iran has already received?

    Are you suggesting that that is what the decision of Jew York southern District (kangaroo) court that held Iran liable for 9/11 was about?

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    How is Trump going to get back the $150 billion Iran has already received?
     
    It was their money. The US gubmint froze it and kept it. Outright larceny, made legal by a Trillion-Dollar MI-complex.
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  50. alley cat says:

    If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.

    This seemingly innocuous concession to the squatter state is anything but. On what do you base your assertion, Fred? On the way Zionists behaved toward Palestinians in the Nakba? Read Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and think again.

    To understand the xenophobic, tribal, mentality behind Pharisaism and its modern progeny, Zionism, read the first half dozen books of the Old Testament and let the scales fall from your eyes.

    The Zionist apartheid state considers all beings and things non-Zionist to be “existential threats.” Of course it does. Zionism is paranoia as religion.

    But it’s a truism that even paranoiacs have enemies, and that applies in spades to a nuclear-armed Zionist state.

    Any society, regime, or religion that proclaims itself chosen by God to rule over others and then acts accordingly will rightfully be treated by others as a threat. If that society, regime, or religion has a large nuclear arsenal it becomes an existential threat to all.

    Moshe Dayan said that “Israel must be seen as a mad dog; too dangerous to bother.” Yes, and too dangerous to ignore, or not put down.

    Defending the Zionist regime in Israel, or even allowing it to remain in power, is sheer, suicidal, folly. Will dumb goys be dumb enough to empower their own nemesis? Watch.

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  51. anarchyst says:
    @Leist
    Its been fascinating how in the latest propaganda campaign that Iran's nuclear weapons program has suddenly become real. Before, while this deal was being negotiated, almost all the world's intelligence agencies agreed that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons. Only the Israelis disagreed. The war-war-war-and-more-endless-war factions of the American deep state said Iran was making nuclear weapons, but even then the official intelligence estimates said they were not.

    There is a lot of very slippery language around this. Before the deal, America and especially the pro-war media, had a way of talking about "Iran's nuclear program". This was a reference to Iran's legal and permitted civilian nuclear program, but done in a scary and threatening way that made the audience assume that it was about Iran's nuclear weapons, which is was not. Now, Trump takes this even further and rants and yells about "Iran's nuclear research" as if that was the same thing as a program producing nuclear weapons, which of course it is not.

    Trump is destroying America standing in the world and tearing apart the trans-Atlantic alliance all over a mythical nuclear weapons program that the Ayatollah had banned as being "un-Islamic" and which all the world's intelligence agencies agreed that Iran did not possess.

    Talk about very bad deals.

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a “special exemption” granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

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    Very well stated, thank you. This should appear as an independent journalistic feature on UR. If the words sound hyperbolic to anyone, just compare them to the reality that inspired them.
    , @Anthony Aaron
    I remember taking an immigration law class in law school.

    The question of dual citizenship came up, specifically as to when it began.

    Not surprisingly, it began when israel became a nation so that jews could hold citizenship in both countries with impunity.

    It was just another facet of the old practice of felons fleeing the United States before being prosecuted for their crimes by boarding an el al flight to israel. That ruse has been done many times … especially for the rabbis who bugger or otherwise molest the children under their charge.
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  52. @jacques sheete

    If there’s a column to be written that reflects the elite consensus of Western Europe and its sneering attitude towards the United States, Fred Reed is sure to write it.
     
    Does sneering put you off?

    Trump's and Netanyahoo's sneering at the rest of the world must really have you in a tizzy and you have my sympathy.

    Trump’s and Netanyahoo’s sneering at the rest of the world must really have you in a tizzy and you have my sympathy.

    In a tizzy? Quite the opposite. Trump’s moves to piss off our so-called “allies” is a fantastic development.

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  53. Momus says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Israel and its ziocons control every facet of the U.S. gov and the proof is that they did 911 and got away with it.

    Where is the proof they did 911 sir?

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    Seven ie 7 WTC buildings were destroyed by explosions and a particle beam weapon and the pentagon was an internal explosion and no planes were used on the WTC and the pentagon, check Dr. Judy Wood.com , rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com, thetruthseeker.co.uk , stevenpieczenik.com, darkmoon.me, alan sabrosky.com, rumormillnews.com, beforeitsnews.com, etc., etc.,.

    Do some research it is all true.
    , @Zumbuddi
    Proof?

    Same proof as that which keeps holohoax 'victims' hoaxing and U S and German taxpayer $ /Euros flowing.

    Except the 5 dancing Israelis and pancaking of not-struck Building 7 are on video in real time for all the world to see, whereas images of Auschwitz, Nordhausen, and Jew-skin lampshades are demonstrable frauds.
    , @MacNucc11
    Stop asking for proof and just tell us how you did it already!
    , @sarz
    The most detailed case for the Israeli leading role in 9/11 can be found at Christopher Bollyn's website

    bollyn.com

    Here is a compact statement on the Jewish involvement, based largely on Bollyn's research

    https://archive.org/details/MastersOfDeception
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  54. anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/14/israel-tells-palestinians-they-are-risking-lives-in-us-embassy-protests

    Another massacre by the Chosen ones nothing to see here.

    On a daily call in show that typically refrains from mentioning, or permitting mention of, negative comments about Jews or Israel, mention of killing of 37 Palestinians crept into coverage of the blessed event of opening US embassy in Jerusalem.

    Within about 10 minutes at least 4 callers registered their disgust with Israel and shame at support by US taxes and politicians — Lindsey Graham & Ted Cruz were named & shamed.

    One take aeay: if more Americans Knew of Israel’s vile behavior, the worm would turn and quickly.
    I hope I’m not thinking wishfully, this boil on humanity’s butt needs lancing.

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    One take away: if more Americans Knew of Israel’s vile behavior, the worm would turn and quickly.
     
    CNN & BBC international captured this massacre brilliantly on the left hand side of the screen you had the Jewish American power elite celebrating the opening of the embassy all talking about peace and on the right hand side of the screen you had tear gas, gunshots and thousands of terrified Palestinian kids throwing stones at objects they couldn't even see, there was a picture of a boy shot on both legs trying to flee by crawling on his arms while all the time on the left hand side of the screen these masters of the world were saying what a brilliant move this was by Trump and how it would bring about peace. The body count steadily began to climb and by the time ZIOBOT Kushener was speaking it stood at 45 dead and 1700 injured and then came the moment I was eagerly waiting for. He spoke about what else the Holocau$T. I've never seen anything more Orwellian on Television. The incredible Chutzpah of these swine to bring up the Holocau$t while they are perpetrating a live massacre on TV!!
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  55. @Zumbuddi
    How is Trump going to get back the $150 billion Iran has already received?

    Are you suggesting that that is what the decision of Jew York southern District (kangaroo) court that held Iran liable for 9/11 was about?

    How is Trump going to get back the $150 billion Iran has already received?

    It was their money. The US gubmint froze it and kept it. Outright larceny, made legal by a Trillion-Dollar MI-complex.

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  56. Rurik says:
    @Rich
    The Israelis are always looking for enemies to fight, and Iran, as a large country with a decent sized military and deeply Islamic government, is a possible threat, but I don't think Israel is the main reason most American leaders are for keeping pressure on Iran . I'd say the Saudis and the petrodollar are the main reason for the US trying to keep Iran poor and on the defensive. The Iranians will never accept American control over the Mideast oil supply, while the Saudis have signed on as long as we provide military protection. If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble. That won't be allowed to happen without a fight.

    If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble.

    good!

    the ‘petrodollar’ / Federal Reserve Note / fiat debt slavery for the planet, is the weapon with which the Fiend menaces mankind.

    the sooner it implodes, the better. And I’m a working class American who would suffer economically from such an event, which I nonetheless pray for to happen, and happen soon.

    @Ken:

    he might try to pin it all on the alt-right just like the alt-right is the only thing standing in the way of racial amity between white and mestizo and a black-brown utopia in America.

    well, I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the Deplorables and the alt-right. And he never misses a chance to sling vitriol at the Deplorables – people who’re slated for the ash-heap of history, and expected to pay for the privilege.

    The Deplorables / alt-right, are the very people who resisted the wars and liars who foist them. They’re the people who demand the Rule of Law, and that includes International Laws as well.

    It’s rather inconvenient for those people who would like to select which laws they feel suit their agendas.

    The zio-cons that Fred here tepidly laments, find international laws inconvenient, and so they ignore them.

    Fred’s patrons find N. America’s immigration laws inconvenient, and so he calls anyone who recognizes them ‘deplorable’ (and racist and gas station louts).

    Deplorables = alt-right = Rule of Law = peace = truth.

    zio-con scum (and their apologists) = wars = debt = Total surveillance police state = transformational, unlimited immigration = hatred = strife = criminality = centralized power = exploding wealth gap = Zionist absolute control of all information and governments and implementation of Orwellian hell on earth so that everyone becomes equal.

    quite a stark difference in world views.

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    There really isn't a petrodollar basis for the US economy. The edifice upon which the US economy is built is more of a consumer-dollar + welfare dollar + MI-complex dollar. Each of which has some share of a "petrodollar" component.
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  57. Da Wei says:
    @anarchyst
    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a "special exemption" granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    Very well stated, thank you. This should appear as an independent journalistic feature on UR. If the words sound hyperbolic to anyone, just compare them to the reality that inspired them.

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  58. Iberiano says:

    I mean this seriously, I cannot keep up with the zionist conspiracies, at least as far as projected consistency…does this mean Trump will definitely now, be voted in, in 2020, with Jewish money and Hollywood and the media, 24/7 giving him nonstop positive praise?

    Are american jews going to move to the right now? stop the mueller investigation, or what? What does/will this mean?

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    Are american jews going to move to the right now? stop the mueller investigation, or what? What does/will this mean?
     
    Jews and Israel are the major directors of all "American" political and economic activity. There are other components having affect, such as evangelicals, kathlicks, and illegal alien activity. However, Jews and Israel have overwhelming economic power in the US, and that is the determining factor, at base.

    In the US, Jews themselves are sharply divided on right/left ideological lines. Academia and government are the major leftwing components of Jewish control, where Wall Street and MI-complex are the major rightwing components of Jewish control.

    In the contemporary scenario, Jews have a tremendous advantage because they align with Israel, and with being Jewish, be they left or be they right. They suffer no loss of national identity, no disorientation with the collapse of American cultural institutions of, say, 60 years ago. Old-style, white, European Americans, long brainwashed by patriotic display and a decaying myth of America as land of the free, are being rapidly replaced by millions upon millions of foreign invaders. These invaders are, for the most part, brought in by Jews of both left and right orientation.

    It's a hell of a mess, and will not end well.
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  59. @Momus
    Where is the proof they did 911 sir?

    Seven ie 7 WTC buildings were destroyed by explosions and a particle beam weapon and the pentagon was an internal explosion and no planes were used on the WTC and the pentagon, check Dr. Judy Wood.com , rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com, thetruthseeker.co.uk , stevenpieczenik.com, darkmoon.me, alan sabrosky.com, rumormillnews.com, beforeitsnews.com, etc., etc.,.

    Do some research it is all true.

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    the pentagon was an internal explosion
     
    you're usually 100% spot on Desert Fox, but in this minor case, it was actually a missile that hit the Pentagon.

    We've all seen the short video clip of the explosion at the Pentagon, but new video shows the vapor trail of the cruise missile strike at about 25 seconds in..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zze32ZEjt30
    , @Momus
    Do you believe that Hiroshima was nuked?

    General Lesley Groves oversaw the construction of the Pentagon before directing the Manhattan Project.
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  60. Moi says:

    Mr. Reed is quite wrong when he says this (but hardly surprising):

    “If Iran were a threat to the existence of Israel, things would be different. If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.”

    Perhaps he needs to brush up on ME history:

    For the record:
    In 638 CE Palestine fell to the Muslims under Caliph Omar. To this day, many Jews refer to the arrival of the Muslims as a “liberation” for Omar gave them unfettered access to Jerusalem, which they had been denied under the Christian Byzantines. Omar was equally generous to the Christians. “Never in the sorry story of conquest up to that day, and rarely since, were such noble and generous sentiments displayed by a conqueror as those extended to Jerusalem by Omar.” (Report by Sir William Fitzgerald on the Local Administration of Jerusalem, Jerusalem: Government Printer, 1945, p.4)
    In 1187, Saladin liberated Jerusalem from the brutal Crusaders and invited the Jews they had expelled to return and practice their faith freely. (It is easy to understand why Palestine’s indigenous Arab Jews were among Zionism’s most ardent opponents.)
    To quote Israeli Rabbi Menachem Froman, chief rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Tekoa, and a champion of inter-religious reconciliation: “[E]very Jew who learns the writings of the great sages – who, at the head of them all stands Maimonides – knows that our great thinkers wrote in the Arabic language, lived in Islamic states and participated with the great Muslim thinkers in the effort to explain the words of God, according to the paths of the sages and amidst the difficult bloody battles that we have had since the beginning of Zionism with the Muslims.” We know… that the war between the Jews and the Muslims is the work of the cursed devil. We know that Islam is named after peace.” (Haaretz, September 18, 2006)

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    Very interesting comment. Thank you.
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  61. Rurik says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Seven ie 7 WTC buildings were destroyed by explosions and a particle beam weapon and the pentagon was an internal explosion and no planes were used on the WTC and the pentagon, check Dr. Judy Wood.com , rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com, thetruthseeker.co.uk , stevenpieczenik.com, darkmoon.me, alan sabrosky.com, rumormillnews.com, beforeitsnews.com, etc., etc.,.

    Do some research it is all true.

    the pentagon was an internal explosion

    you’re usually 100% spot on Desert Fox, but in this minor case, it was actually a missile that hit the Pentagon.

    We’ve all seen the short video clip of the explosion at the Pentagon, but new video shows the vapor trail of the cruise missile strike at about 25 seconds in..

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    April Gallop was working at the pentagon in the area where the explosion occurred and she stated that she walked out through the hole in the wall and she said there was no sign of any missile and that it was an explosion and she was one of the survivors.

    There are security cameras all over the outside of the pentagon ie some report 88 and not one of these videos have been released. There were no signs of remains of a plane or a missile around or in the hole.

    The section of the pentagon that was blown up was the section where the records were kept and just a day before the explosion Rumsfled announced that 2.3 trillion was missing from the pentagon and the next an explosion destroys the records!

    Recommend the archives of the sites I mentioned plus veteranstoday.com and davidicke.com.
    , @manorchurch
    Oh, good lord, you wackadoodles are at it again. Just when the world starts to hope that you conspiracy nutjobs have topped-out your imaginations, comes another.

    Mother of all the gods ... the Pentagon hit was the afo'menshun airplane. Always has been, always will be.

    What are you taking? Xanax? Cut 'em in half.
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  62. @Rurik

    If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble.
     
    good!

    the 'petrodollar' / Federal Reserve Note / fiat debt slavery for the planet, is the weapon with which the Fiend menaces mankind.

    the sooner it implodes, the better. And I'm a working class American who would suffer economically from such an event, which I nonetheless pray for to happen, and happen soon.

    @Ken:

    he might try to pin it all on the alt-right just like the alt-right is the only thing standing in the way of racial amity between white and mestizo and a black-brown utopia in America.
     
    well, I don't see a whole lot of difference between the Deplorables and the alt-right. And he never misses a chance to sling vitriol at the Deplorables - people who're slated for the ash-heap of history, and expected to pay for the privilege.

    The Deplorables / alt-right, are the very people who resisted the wars and liars who foist them. They're the people who demand the Rule of Law, and that includes International Laws as well.

    It's rather inconvenient for those people who would like to select which laws they feel suit their agendas.

    The zio-cons that Fred here tepidly laments, find international laws inconvenient, and so they ignore them.

    Fred's patrons find N. America's immigration laws inconvenient, and so he calls anyone who recognizes them 'deplorable' (and racist and gas station louts).

    Deplorables = alt-right = Rule of Law = peace = truth.

    zio-con scum (and their apologists) = wars = debt = Total surveillance police state = transformational, unlimited immigration = hatred = strife = criminality = centralized power = exploding wealth gap = Zionist absolute control of all information and governments and implementation of Orwellian hell on earth so that everyone becomes equal.

    quite a stark difference in world views.

    the ‘petrodollar’ / Federal Reserve Note / fiat debt slavery for the planet, is the weapon with which the Fiend menaces mankind.

    There really isn’t a petrodollar basis for the US economy. The edifice upon which the US economy is built is more of a consumer-dollar + welfare dollar + MI-complex dollar. Each of which has some share of a “petrodollar” component.

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    consumer-dollar + welfare dollar + MI-complex dollar. Each of which has some share of a “petrodollar” component.
     
    when the boyz at the Fed decide to create a trillion or two, out of thin air, and then lend it out at interest to buy up toxic debt, or 'loan' to the ZUS Treasury, it's the American tax slave that will be forced to 'pay back' that fake money with their sweat and toil ~ with interest.

    But the only way this diabolical scam works, if it the American people and the nations of the world are bullied into using the ZUS Treasury note (Federal Reserve Note fiat currency) as their medium of exchange, especially for oil.

    when Russia and China and the other BRICs nations figure out a way to use an alternative to the zio-note, then things will get interesting.

    https://www.mediamonitors.net/articles/petrodollar-warfare-dollars-euros-and-the-upcoming-iranian-oil-bourse/

    remember Gadhafi's gold Dinar?

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  63. @Tbbh
    Disallowing right click searches is STILL INFURIATING, and if I wanted to pirate your content, it is easy to do.

    Does Mr Unz even understand how the web works?

    Inconveniencing your regular readers is MORONIC.

    But implying that a wildly successful IT entrepreneur, who does some of the programming for his own successful website, doesn’t understand the internet as well as you do, well, that’s not moronic, eh?

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  64. @polistra
    Bibi and Donnie are still playing the unipolar game, asserting and assuming sole and total power, in a world where other powers are now bigger and more attractive.

    The good part: Israel and US really don't matter any more. The Silk Road links Europe, Asia and Africa without any connections through the Western Hemisphere.

    Persia has linked its fate Eastward, which means that Russia and China will protect it if attacked. On top of that, Germany and France are suddenly popping up as a THIRD major center of power, linked with Persia but not with Russia.

    The best part: The more Bibi and Donnie assert, the more countries abandon the side. It's a self-eliminating power move.

    Germany and France will be impoverished, dangerous, chaotic Islamic / african hellholes, not particularly significant economically or politically or culturally. Otherwise, your comment is right on about the Silk Road rail/highway route enhancing China and Russia at the expense of the USA.

    USA should have been involved in a positive way. Too late now.

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  65. @Iberiano
    I mean this seriously, I cannot keep up with the zionist conspiracies, at least as far as projected consistency...does this mean Trump will definitely now, be voted in, in 2020, with Jewish money and Hollywood and the media, 24/7 giving him nonstop positive praise?

    Are american jews going to move to the right now? stop the mueller investigation, or what? What does/will this mean?

    Are american jews going to move to the right now? stop the mueller investigation, or what? What does/will this mean?

    Jews and Israel are the major directors of all “American” political and economic activity. There are other components having affect, such as evangelicals, kathlicks, and illegal alien activity. However, Jews and Israel have overwhelming economic power in the US, and that is the determining factor, at base.

    In the US, Jews themselves are sharply divided on right/left ideological lines. Academia and government are the major leftwing components of Jewish control, where Wall Street and MI-complex are the major rightwing components of Jewish control.

    In the contemporary scenario, Jews have a tremendous advantage because they align with Israel, and with being Jewish, be they left or be they right. They suffer no loss of national identity, no disorientation with the collapse of American cultural institutions of, say, 60 years ago. Old-style, white, European Americans, long brainwashed by patriotic display and a decaying myth of America as land of the free, are being rapidly replaced by millions upon millions of foreign invaders. These invaders are, for the most part, brought in by Jews of both left and right orientation.

    It’s a hell of a mess, and will not end well.

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  66. @Rurik

    the pentagon was an internal explosion
     
    you're usually 100% spot on Desert Fox, but in this minor case, it was actually a missile that hit the Pentagon.

    We've all seen the short video clip of the explosion at the Pentagon, but new video shows the vapor trail of the cruise missile strike at about 25 seconds in..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zze32ZEjt30

    April Gallop was working at the pentagon in the area where the explosion occurred and she stated that she walked out through the hole in the wall and she said there was no sign of any missile and that it was an explosion and she was one of the survivors.

    There are security cameras all over the outside of the pentagon ie some report 88 and not one of these videos have been released. There were no signs of remains of a plane or a missile around or in the hole.

    The section of the pentagon that was blown up was the section where the records were kept and just a day before the explosion Rumsfled announced that 2.3 trillion was missing from the pentagon and the next an explosion destroys the records!

    Recommend the archives of the sites I mentioned plus veteranstoday.com and davidicke.com.

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    I agree with everything you wrote, except that the explosion she was talking about, that destroyed the records Rumsfeld was speaking of, was caused by a missile, specifically the one in the video.

    I certainly don't want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I'll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5f7b6014a336.jpg

    if you're adamant that there was no missile, then that's ok with me, and this stuff can all be hashed out in a thread specifically posted for that purpose.

    Cheers.
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  67. @Rurik

    the pentagon was an internal explosion
     
    you're usually 100% spot on Desert Fox, but in this minor case, it was actually a missile that hit the Pentagon.

    We've all seen the short video clip of the explosion at the Pentagon, but new video shows the vapor trail of the cruise missile strike at about 25 seconds in..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zze32ZEjt30

    Oh, good lord, you wackadoodles are at it again. Just when the world starts to hope that you conspiracy nutjobs have topped-out your imaginations, comes another.

    Mother of all the gods … the Pentagon hit was the afo’menshun airplane. Always has been, always will be.

    What are you taking? Xanax? Cut ‘em in half.

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    the Pentagon hit was the afo’menshun airplane.
     
    for another time and place..
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  68. Zumbuddi says:
    @Momus
    Where is the proof they did 911 sir?

    Proof?

    Same proof as that which keeps holohoax ‘victims’ hoaxing and U S and German taxpayer $ /Euros flowing.

    Except the 5 dancing Israelis and pancaking of not-struck Building 7 are on video in real time for all the world to see, whereas images of Auschwitz, Nordhausen, and Jew-skin lampshades are demonstrable frauds.

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  69. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch

    the ‘petrodollar’ / Federal Reserve Note / fiat debt slavery for the planet, is the weapon with which the Fiend menaces mankind.
     
    There really isn't a petrodollar basis for the US economy. The edifice upon which the US economy is built is more of a consumer-dollar + welfare dollar + MI-complex dollar. Each of which has some share of a "petrodollar" component.

    consumer-dollar + welfare dollar + MI-complex dollar. Each of which has some share of a “petrodollar” component.

    when the boyz at the Fed decide to create a trillion or two, out of thin air, and then lend it out at interest to buy up toxic debt, or ‘loan’ to the ZUS Treasury, it’s the American tax slave that will be forced to ‘pay back’ that fake money with their sweat and toil ~ with interest.

    But the only way this diabolical scam works, if it the American people and the nations of the world are bullied into using the ZUS Treasury note (Federal Reserve Note fiat currency) as their medium of exchange, especially for oil.

    when Russia and China and the other BRICs nations figure out a way to use an alternative to the zio-note, then things will get interesting.

    https://www.mediamonitors.net/articles/petrodollar-warfare-dollars-euros-and-the-upcoming-iranian-oil-bourse/

    remember Gadhafi’s gold Dinar?

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  70. Mulegino1 says:
    @sarz
    The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms. I would give the quote but am unable to copy because of all the fancy software. But use your 'find in page' for "pogrom". Note that the word is Russian, meaning something like excessive violence.

    That the author is talking off the top of his head is forgivable. We are most of us carrying the same load of crap. But it would be good to see the level of scholarship here at Unz equal to that at the Dailystormer, from where I get this quote:


    In actual fact, the idea of pogroms in the Russian Empire, in which “thousands of Jews were slaughtered” has been utterly debunked. They’ve been debunked not by an obscure “Far Right” think-tank, but by Professor John Klier – a widely respected scholar and non-Jewish former head of the British Association for Jewish Studies who published his findings in a number of volumes via Cambridge University Press (I summarize Klier’s findings here). Among Klier’s findings, the most important of which can be found in Russians, Jews and the Pogroms of 1881-82 (2011) was that the vast majority of pogrom narratives were developed and disseminated by a single Prussian Rabbi – Yizhak Rülf. According to Klier, Rülf specialized in “sensationalized accounts of mass rape.” These accounts would then be disseminated in the Western media with the help of Jewish journalists, and used by groups like the British-based Russo-Jewish Committee to push for Western government ‘action’ against the Tsar. Despite contemporary British government investigations which revealed that no rapes had occurred and perhaps only one or two murders had been committed throughout the Russian Empire, and because most of the general public will never hear about the research of Professor Klier, the myth of thousands of massacred Jews in eastern pogroms remains in the popular consciousness, and is obviously still very deeply embedded in the Jewish folk memory.
     

    Good comment.

    With respect to the sufferings of the “chosen people”, the Talmudist mindset is prone to falsification, dissimulation, gross exaggeration and the most awful calumnies imaginable against the goyim, particularly those who are perceived as insufficiently zealous in their sycophancy and deference to the tribe’s crystalline sensibilities.

    “Russian pogroms” are simply a useful myth to deflect the horrendous mass atrocities carried out by the kosher Bolshevik regime. The 19th century had its “Russian pogroms” and the 20th century had its so called “Holocaust”, which was also, in large part, a free invention of the Talmudic mindset and Jewish control of the mass media, along with Soviet and British/Allied war propaganda thrown in for good measure.

    After all, the chosen must always have a useful pseudo- moral foil to deflect the exposure of Jewish criminality.

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  71. So why did he ditch the Iran deal? There is of course anti-Jewish posting on the web to the effect that the Jews are manipulating the government to go to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel. This doesn’t hold water, or only a little water. Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans. This probably is because they are more attentive and better informed than the notoriously clueless US public. (e.g. JStreet and WashPost.) But while “the Jews” didn’t sink the Iran deal, a comparatively small number of Israel-firsters did. These are the Neocons, warlike and heavily Jewish, plus the Jewish lobby AIPAC plus a few Jewish billionaires. Collectively they determine American foreign policy, and not for the benefit of America–which, again, has nothing to gain and much to lose by being manipulated into a war that does not matter to America.

    The Jews don’t get off the hook that easily, Fred. They are persuaded, by their Rabbis, to support Israel in all things. To put Israel first since it the true home of all Jews. Because it represents the global Jewish Nation.

    Do Jews Dominate in American Media? And So What If We Do?

    Then there’s Israel. Support for Israel is an element of Jewish religious practice and more important, part of the Jewish cultural experience. Even if you’re a secular Jewish professional who prides himself on his objectivity, there is a ton of cultural pressure on you to support Israel or at least not to betray Israel. We are talking about a religion, after all, and the pressures faced by Jews who are critical of Israel are not that different from what Muslim women who want greater freedom undergo psychically or by evangelical Christians who want to support gay rights. It is worth noting that great Jewish heretics on the Israel question suffer anger or even ostracism inside their own families. Henry Siegman talked about this on Charlie Rose once, I recall–that even close family were not speaking to him over Israel. And I have seen this for myself on numerous occasions. There is not a lot of bandwidth on this issue. Conversations about Israel even inside the liberal Jewish community are emotionally loaded, and result in people not speaking to one another. I lost this blog at a mainstream publication because the editor was Jewish and conservative on Israel and so was the new owner, and the publisher had worked for AIPAC. And all of them would likely call themselves liberal Democrats.

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  72. @Jake
    If you cannot see why the US 'must' start endless wars, then you know far too little about WASP culture and the history of the British Empire.

    Does your ‘must’ mean ‘wants to’ ?

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  73. Rurik says:
    @DESERT FOX
    April Gallop was working at the pentagon in the area where the explosion occurred and she stated that she walked out through the hole in the wall and she said there was no sign of any missile and that it was an explosion and she was one of the survivors.

    There are security cameras all over the outside of the pentagon ie some report 88 and not one of these videos have been released. There were no signs of remains of a plane or a missile around or in the hole.

    The section of the pentagon that was blown up was the section where the records were kept and just a day before the explosion Rumsfled announced that 2.3 trillion was missing from the pentagon and the next an explosion destroys the records!

    Recommend the archives of the sites I mentioned plus veteranstoday.com and davidicke.com.

    I agree with everything you wrote, except that the explosion she was talking about, that destroyed the records Rumsfeld was speaking of, was caused by a missile, specifically the one in the video.

    I certainly don’t want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I’ll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.

    if you’re adamant that there was no missile, then that’s ok with me, and this stuff can all be hashed out in a thread specifically posted for that purpose.

    Cheers.

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    I certainly don’t want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I’ll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.
     
    I find it truly amazing that you nutjobs can still churn the waters, 17 years downline.

    Obsession is the curse of Mankind.

    PS -- I've seen some missile strikes -- MOST missile strikes -- that don't make a hole like that (they just blow the place to kingdom come). OTOH, the hole is characteristic for airplanes and non-exploding missiles hitting masonry buildings. Damn, don't you just wish at least one tower had remained standing, so that you twirlies could take micrometer measurements of dust particles, and declare they came from the moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.
    , @DESERT FOX
    If you research April Gallop you will find her statements on the incident compelling, agree to disagree.
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  74. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch
    Oh, good lord, you wackadoodles are at it again. Just when the world starts to hope that you conspiracy nutjobs have topped-out your imaginations, comes another.

    Mother of all the gods ... the Pentagon hit was the afo'menshun airplane. Always has been, always will be.

    What are you taking? Xanax? Cut 'em in half.

    the Pentagon hit was the afo’menshun airplane.

    for another time and place..

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    Somedays, I go one-for-one with you moonbats and your 9/11 billets doux.
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  75. annamaria says:
    @Jake
    Fred is correct that Israel does not want Iran to prosper, which means that Israel would have finagled a plan to have the US destroy Iran even if Iran had not tinkered with nukes. It has to do with Arab vs. Indo-European. The Israelis and their American Jewish bros and worldwide Jewry assume that on averages, Iranians will be smarter and have a better work ethic than any Arabs, which means that if left alone. Iran could come to dominate the Moslem Middle East. And that easily could lead to Israel being made little more than a tiny dot wit nukes the US backs to the hilt.

    Jews know that Arabs are like them Semitic, and the core-deep culture says to ally with 1 Arab nation is better for Jews. So Saudi Arabia is in.

    The Saudis would do virtually anything in order to be the top dog of the Moslem world, because then Saudis would destroy all political power tied to Shiites, and steal all oil wells controlled by Shiites, giving nearly 100% of it to Sunni Arabs.

    The Jewish plan is to enable various Mohammedans to slaughter one another, which means they cannot be focused on Israel, and to use the US to supply the money and manpower to jump start every move and play it out.

    “The Jewish plan is to enable various Mohammedans to slaughter one another, which means they cannot be focused on Israel.”
    – This is known as Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. A blueprint for the ongoing slaughter. So Jewishly “most moral.”
    Oded Yinon, “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties,” Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. Belmont, Massachusetts, 1982, Special Document No. 1, ISBN 0-937694-56-8

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33220.htm

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  76. Momus says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Seven ie 7 WTC buildings were destroyed by explosions and a particle beam weapon and the pentagon was an internal explosion and no planes were used on the WTC and the pentagon, check Dr. Judy Wood.com , rense.com, whatreallyhappened.com, thetruthseeker.co.uk , stevenpieczenik.com, darkmoon.me, alan sabrosky.com, rumormillnews.com, beforeitsnews.com, etc., etc.,.

    Do some research it is all true.

    Do you believe that Hiroshima was nuked?

    General Lesley Groves oversaw the construction of the Pentagon before directing the Manhattan Project.

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    Yes, and I got the sarcasm, by the way Fukushima was caused by an Israeli nuke in the ocean off of Fukushima, and that is a fact!
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  77. the timing of this article is just impeccable. since israel just killed 52 and injured 2000+ protesters.

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    Haaha.

    The Hamas leadership has been refining their version of 'Futile Suicide Terrorism' for a while. They have it down to fine art now.

    Crazed ideologues.
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  78. annamaria says:

    Meanwhile, the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS and SD: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/idf-kills-16-injures-600-gaza-us-celebrates-opening-jerusalem-embassy
    “The Schutzstaffel (literally “Protection Squadron”) was a major paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP)… The two main constituent groups were the Allgemeine SS (General SS) and Waffen-SS (Armed SS). The Allgemeine SS was responsible for enforcing the racial policy of Nazi Germany and general policing, whereas the Waffen-SS consisted of combat units within Nazi Germany’s military. A third component of the SS, the SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV), ran the concentration camps and extermination camps. Additional subdivisions of the SS included the Gestapo and the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) organizations. They were tasked with the detection of actual or potential enemies of the Nazi state, the neutralization of any opposition, policing the German people for their commitment to Nazi ideology, and providing domestic and foreign intelligence.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel
    – Sounds like Mossad and the “most moral” IDF.
    Warsaw Ghetto: “On January 18, 1943 … the Germans suddenly entered the Warsaw Ghetto… Within hours, some 600 Jews were shot and 5,000 others removed from their residences. The Germans expected no resistance, but the action was brought to a halt by hundreds of insurgents armed with handguns and Molotov cocktails.
    Preparations to resist had been going on since the previous autumn. The first instance of Jewish armed struggle in Warsaw had begun. … The final battle started on the eve of Passover of April 19, 1943, when a Nazi force consisting of several thousand troops entered the ghetto. After initial setbacks, 2,000 Waffen SS soldiers under the field command of Jürgen Stroop systematically burned and blew up the ghetto buildings, block by block, rounding up or murdering anybody they could capture.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto
    — Sounds like the Menora offensive: https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2013/05/03/israels-illegal-use-of-white-phosphorus-during-operation-cast-lead/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

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    the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS
     
    the irony doesn't mitigate the tragedy, sad to say.

    I just listened to a NPR host describe how the Palestinians are 'violent' and throw rocks and fire bombs.
    , @Wally
    And you have no proof for any of that impossible 'holocaust' propaganda that you found at Jew controlled Wikipedia. And neither do they. It's all made up with no proof behind it.

    Seriously? You cite laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It's rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    the facts here:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    www.codoh.com
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  79. @Rurik
    I agree with everything you wrote, except that the explosion she was talking about, that destroyed the records Rumsfeld was speaking of, was caused by a missile, specifically the one in the video.

    I certainly don't want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I'll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5f7b6014a336.jpg

    if you're adamant that there was no missile, then that's ok with me, and this stuff can all be hashed out in a thread specifically posted for that purpose.

    Cheers.

    I certainly don’t want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I’ll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.

    I find it truly amazing that you nutjobs can still churn the waters, 17 years downline.

    Obsession is the curse of Mankind.

    PS — I’ve seen some missile strikes — MOST missile strikes — that don’t make a hole like that (they just blow the place to kingdom come). OTOH, the hole is characteristic for airplanes and non-exploding missiles hitting masonry buildings. Damn, don’t you just wish at least one tower had remained standing, so that you twirlies could take micrometer measurements of dust particles, and declare they came from the moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.

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    moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.
     
    'methinks the lady doth protest too much
    , @Mike P
    Happily for you, the WTC dust has been carefully analysed, and large quantities of both reacted and unreacted nanothermite have been unambiguously documented.

    Do yourself and everyone else a favour - stop the name-calling and educate yourself.
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  80. @Rurik

    the Pentagon hit was the afo’menshun airplane.
     
    for another time and place..

    Somedays, I go one-for-one with you moonbats and your 9/11 billets doux.

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    your 9/11 billets doux.

     

    well, since this is a thread that's putatively about Zionist/Jewish supremacist treachery- to get the US to fight all its endless wars, perhaps a slight 9/11 concession is in order, and you'll kindly explain how, not just the BBC, but Fox News also reported on the collapse of building seven before it fell.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFdcPv3XXI

    The collapse of building seven wasn't just part of the worst crime ever committed on US soil, but also was an event of such staggering engineering failures, that surely the architectural community and structural engineers would have wanted to pour over every rivet and bolt and weld that failed in this incomprehensible case of the laws of physics being turned upside down, for the fist time in known history or physical sciences.

    and yet rather than use the forensic evidence of this crime and structural failure to figure out how it happened, so as to make sure it doesn't happen again, they immediately ship it all off to China to be melted down, obviously not wanting anyone to even know about it.

    The fall of building seven wasn't even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

    In fact, if you ask a thousand people about 'building seven on 9/11, perhaps one in a thousand will even know what you're talking about.

    They'll have heard of the 'terrorists passport' that fell to the street out of the fireballs and destruction- enough to turn hundreds of tons of steel and concrete into fine powder, but not destructive enough to thwart the terrorists magic passport from floating into the FBI's awaiting hands.

    Anyways, so yes. The key to 9/11 is building seven. Once you realize they're lying about that, it only follows they're lying about it all.

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they're lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.

    just how many lies are you willing to swallow, manorchurch, before you gag and start to spit?

    , @MacNucc11
    I got the moonbats all day guan -o - church.
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  81. I have heard some time ago that the Americans are going to rebuild the White House in Jerusalem and after that an American embassy in Washington. Does someone know if this is true?

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  82. renfro says:

    Another 43 unarmed Palestines killed today, 1009 wounded by Israelis during the protest over Israeli theft of their land.

    And Americans wont even get off their asses and march against DC to get their country back from the Jews and Israel.

    Hitler was right.

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  83. @anarchyst
    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a "special exemption" granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    I remember taking an immigration law class in law school.

    The question of dual citizenship came up, specifically as to when it began.

    Not surprisingly, it began when israel became a nation so that jews could hold citizenship in both countries with impunity.

    It was just another facet of the old practice of felons fleeing the United States before being prosecuted for their crimes by boarding an el al flight to israel. That ruse has been done many times … especially for the rabbis who bugger or otherwise molest the children under their charge.

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    Not only that, Israel refuses to extradite any jew criminal who makes it to Israel...
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  84. MacNucc11 says:
    @Momus
    Where is the proof they did 911 sir?

    Stop asking for proof and just tell us how you did it already!

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  85. @Momus
    Do you believe that Hiroshima was nuked?

    General Lesley Groves oversaw the construction of the Pentagon before directing the Manhattan Project.

    Yes, and I got the sarcasm, by the way Fukushima was caused by an Israeli nuke in the ocean off of Fukushima, and that is a fact!

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  86. @Rurik
    I agree with everything you wrote, except that the explosion she was talking about, that destroyed the records Rumsfeld was speaking of, was caused by a missile, specifically the one in the video.

    I certainly don't want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I'll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5f7b6014a336.jpg

    if you're adamant that there was no missile, then that's ok with me, and this stuff can all be hashed out in a thread specifically posted for that purpose.

    Cheers.

    If you research April Gallop you will find her statements on the incident compelling, agree to disagree.

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  87. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch

    I certainly don’t want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I’ll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.
     
    I find it truly amazing that you nutjobs can still churn the waters, 17 years downline.

    Obsession is the curse of Mankind.

    PS -- I've seen some missile strikes -- MOST missile strikes -- that don't make a hole like that (they just blow the place to kingdom come). OTOH, the hole is characteristic for airplanes and non-exploding missiles hitting masonry buildings. Damn, don't you just wish at least one tower had remained standing, so that you twirlies could take micrometer measurements of dust particles, and declare they came from the moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.

    moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.

    ‘methinks the lady doth protest too much

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    ‘methinks the lady doth protest too much
     
    Methinks videos of holes in walls prove nothing, and exhibit only fanatic obsession.
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  88. Rurik says:
    @annamaria
    Meanwhile, the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS and SD: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/idf-kills-16-injures-600-gaza-us-celebrates-opening-jerusalem-embassy
    "The Schutzstaffel (literally "Protection Squadron") was a major paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP)... The two main constituent groups were the Allgemeine SS (General SS) and Waffen-SS (Armed SS). The Allgemeine SS was responsible for enforcing the racial policy of Nazi Germany and general policing, whereas the Waffen-SS consisted of combat units within Nazi Germany's military. A third component of the SS, the SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV), ran the concentration camps and extermination camps. Additional subdivisions of the SS included the Gestapo and the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) organizations. They were tasked with the detection of actual or potential enemies of the Nazi state, the neutralization of any opposition, policing the German people for their commitment to Nazi ideology, and providing domestic and foreign intelligence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel
    -- Sounds like Mossad and the "most moral" IDF.
    Warsaw Ghetto: "On January 18, 1943 ... the Germans suddenly entered the Warsaw Ghetto... Within hours, some 600 Jews were shot and 5,000 others removed from their residences. The Germans expected no resistance, but the action was brought to a halt by hundreds of insurgents armed with handguns and Molotov cocktails.
    Preparations to resist had been going on since the previous autumn. The first instance of Jewish armed struggle in Warsaw had begun. ... The final battle started on the eve of Passover of April 19, 1943, when a Nazi force consisting of several thousand troops entered the ghetto. After initial setbacks, 2,000 Waffen SS soldiers under the field command of Jürgen Stroop systematically burned and blew up the ghetto buildings, block by block, rounding up or murdering anybody they could capture." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto
    -- Sounds like the Menora offensive: https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2013/05/03/israels-illegal-use-of-white-phosphorus-during-operation-cast-lead/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

    the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS

    the irony doesn’t mitigate the tragedy, sad to say.

    I just listened to a NPR host describe how the Palestinians are ‘violent’ and throw rocks and fire bombs.

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    NPR is about as truthful as NYT, WP, or Dr. Goebbels.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    The Australian (taxpayer funded) ABC is reporting "55 killed in violent protests" rather than more accurately reporting 55 killed in a violent response to peaceful protests. Disgusting!
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  89. @Shouting Thomas
    I always enjoy reading Fred's perspective. There's always some truth to it.

    That said, Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front and in foreign policy, particularly in Korea. Yes, Trump has dealt with some shady characters in his real estate dealings in NYC and Atlantic City. It is impossible to be a major player in real estate in these venues otherwise.

    I consider his experience in dealing with these shady characters a positive, not a negative. Trump is a hardened real world actor, not an idealistic academic.

    He's a lot smarter than Fred, a situation uniquely likely to cause these outpourings of jealousy by Fred.

    I have the odd feeling that Trump's supposedly idiot policy toward the Middle East will be as successful as his supposedly idiot policy toward Korea.

    “That said, Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front and in foreign policy, particularly in Korea.”

    Misreading greater government spending as healthy signs of the economy is as accurate as think what took place on Korea was the result of Pres Trump.

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  90. anarchyst says:
    @Anthony Aaron
    I remember taking an immigration law class in law school.

    The question of dual citizenship came up, specifically as to when it began.

    Not surprisingly, it began when israel became a nation so that jews could hold citizenship in both countries with impunity.

    It was just another facet of the old practice of felons fleeing the United States before being prosecuted for their crimes by boarding an el al flight to israel. That ruse has been done many times … especially for the rabbis who bugger or otherwise molest the children under their charge.

    Not only that, Israel refuses to extradite any jew criminal who makes it to Israel…

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    Not true though I think Istael does tend to try its own in a way which I would commend to any country concerned to make sure its own citizens receive fair trials. Extradition from Israel may not be common but there seems nothing now to prevent Malka Leifer being extradited to Australia for sexual abuse of her female students at an Ultra Orthodox school in Melbourne. Several Jewish women have taken the lead in making it happen.
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  91. Mike P says:
    @manorchurch

    I certainly don’t want to devolve this thread into a debate on the 9/11 minutia, but I’ll just post this photo of what a missile strike leaves as far as a hole, and what the hole in the Pentagon looked like.
     
    I find it truly amazing that you nutjobs can still churn the waters, 17 years downline.

    Obsession is the curse of Mankind.

    PS -- I've seen some missile strikes -- MOST missile strikes -- that don't make a hole like that (they just blow the place to kingdom come). OTOH, the hole is characteristic for airplanes and non-exploding missiles hitting masonry buildings. Damn, don't you just wish at least one tower had remained standing, so that you twirlies could take micrometer measurements of dust particles, and declare they came from the moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.

    Happily for you, the WTC dust has been carefully analysed, and large quantities of both reacted and unreacted nanothermite have been unambiguously documented.

    Do yourself and everyone else a favour – stop the name-calling and educate yourself.

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    Typical 9/11 loony. Anyone who follows your "unambiguously documented" won't find any evidence that the towers were blown up.
    , @Momus
    Guano mate.

    Your 'nano thermite' proves nothing.

    Thermite is dead easy to make; there is no proof any was collected from Ground Zero or that the towers were sabotaged.

    Moonbat.
    , @Sparkon
    Conspicuous by its absence in your comment, Mike P, is any mention of what else was found in the WTC dust samples collected by the USGS:

    common fission products that show up on the chemistry table of the USGS dust samples: Arsenic, Rubidium, Strontium, Barium, Yttrium, Niobium, Molybdenum, Silver, Cadmium, Antimony, Cesium, Lanthanum and Cerium.
     
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1167490_552406588127696_459524344_o.jpg

    Photo: Veterans Today

    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?
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  92. @Rurik

    the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS
     
    the irony doesn't mitigate the tragedy, sad to say.

    I just listened to a NPR host describe how the Palestinians are 'violent' and throw rocks and fire bombs.

    NPR is about as truthful as NYT, WP, or Dr. Goebbels.

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    NPR is about as truthful as NYT, WP, or Dr. Goebbels.
     
    of course, but 99% of the time, every word inflection they utter, every story they report of Honduran refugees from violence, or Mexican women trapped in poverty, are always, in unspoken ubiquitous agreement, all victims of white, male racism, oppression and the Patriarchy (working class white men who don't want to be gay or see their daughter have black babies).

    IOW with every blubbering sob story they tell, everything, always is a direct consequence of evil, racist right-wingers.

    Unless the right-wingers are Jewish supremacist IDF goons shooting unarmed Palestinian protesters - for giggles.

    Then it's all the Palestinians fault! How dare they protest on the anniversary of the glorious day of Jewish supremacism, genocide, mass-murder and the theft of their homes and farms and business!

    My point was just the ragging, over the top hypocrisy and vile double standards.

    If a teenager in El Salvador shoots another teenager, it's a direct consequence of the racism of white, male coal minors in West Virginia.

    But if a Palestinian is shot by the IDF, then it's suddenly the fault of the Palestinian.

    The mind reels from their glaring dishonesty and affront to any semblance of honor or decency.

    It's all agenda-driven lies, 24/7, 365.

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  93. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch
    Somedays, I go one-for-one with you moonbats and your 9/11 billets doux.

    your 9/11 billets doux.

    well, since this is a thread that’s putatively about Zionist/Jewish supremacist treachery- to get the US to fight all its endless wars, perhaps a slight 9/11 concession is in order, and you’ll kindly explain how, not just the BBC, but Fox News also reported on the collapse of building seven before it fell.

    The collapse of building seven wasn’t just part of the worst crime ever committed on US soil, but also was an event of such staggering engineering failures, that surely the architectural community and structural engineers would have wanted to pour over every rivet and bolt and weld that failed in this incomprehensible case of the laws of physics being turned upside down, for the fist time in known history or physical sciences.

    and yet rather than use the forensic evidence of this crime and structural failure to figure out how it happened, so as to make sure it doesn’t happen again, they immediately ship it all off to China to be melted down, obviously not wanting anyone to even know about it.

    The fall of building seven wasn’t even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

    In fact, if you ask a thousand people about ‘building seven on 9/11, perhaps one in a thousand will even know what you’re talking about.

    They’ll have heard of the ‘terrorists passport’ that fell to the street out of the fireballs and destruction- enough to turn hundreds of tons of steel and concrete into fine powder, but not destructive enough to thwart the terrorists magic passport from floating into the FBI’s awaiting hands.

    Anyways, so yes. The key to 9/11 is building seven. Once you realize they’re lying about that, it only follows they’re lying about it all.

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they’re lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.

    just how many lies are you willing to swallow, manorchurch, before you gag and start to spit?

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    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they’re lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.
     
    And you expect me to what? Convert to the most wackadoodle theory of crazy-ass "they was cornspirtors, and they had nookular weapons, and 100 tons of nanothermite (that most scary of all residues, LOL). And... and... and a bazillion peepul in the gummint planted grenades in the buildings, and salted the air-conditioning with Mooselimb vapors", and ... and .... IT'S A CONSPEERACY!!!!

    Mother-fucker, what a pack of moronic stooges you wackadoodles be.
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  94. MacNucc11 says:
    @manorchurch
    Somedays, I go one-for-one with you moonbats and your 9/11 billets doux.

    I got the moonbats all day guan -o – church.

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  95. sarz says:
    @Momus
    Where is the proof they did 911 sir?

    The most detailed case for the Israeli leading role in 9/11 can be found at Christopher Bollyn’s website

    bollyn.com

    Here is a compact statement on the Jewish involvement, based largely on Bollyn’s research

    https://archive.org/details/MastersOfDeception

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  96. @jilles dykstra
    Cannot see why:
    - EU is becoming irrelevant
    - the USA must continue wars
    On the contrary, the USA must stop spending huge sums on wars that just cost money.
    Both the USA and the EU are pretty much autarcic, EU trade with non EU countries is just some 5% of gross EU income.
    Do not know the figure for the USA, but it must be in the same order of magnitude.
    The dollar indeed is a huge problem, but what will happen if the USA no longer pays interest on and amortisation of loans ?
    Not much, I suppose.
    A country cannot go bankrupt.
    Maybe China would have the biggest problem, the Chinese regime fails in making Chinese consume, they save.
    If export is no longer possible, huge unemployment will result.

    Didn’t you read the article?

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  97. Rurik says:
    @AnonFromTN
    NPR is about as truthful as NYT, WP, or Dr. Goebbels.

    NPR is about as truthful as NYT, WP, or Dr. Goebbels.

    of course, but 99% of the time, every word inflection they utter, every story they report of Honduran refugees from violence, or Mexican women trapped in poverty, are always, in unspoken ubiquitous agreement, all victims of white, male racism, oppression and the Patriarchy (working class white men who don’t want to be gay or see their daughter have black babies).

    IOW with every blubbering sob story they tell, everything, always is a direct consequence of evil, racist right-wingers.

    Unless the right-wingers are Jewish supremacist IDF goons shooting unarmed Palestinian protesters – for giggles.

    Then it’s all the Palestinians fault! How dare they protest on the anniversary of the glorious day of Jewish supremacism, genocide, mass-murder and the theft of their homes and farms and business!

    My point was just the ragging, over the top hypocrisy and vile double standards.

    If a teenager in El Salvador shoots another teenager, it’s a direct consequence of the racism of white, male coal minors in West Virginia.

    But if a Palestinian is shot by the IDF, then it’s suddenly the fault of the Palestinian.

    The mind reels from their glaring dishonesty and affront to any semblance of honor or decency.

    It’s all agenda-driven lies, 24/7, 365.

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    Further to your point: Like ‘Nazis who died in WWII’: Israeli minister dismisses victims of Gaza protests

    Is it just my impression, or is it true that the propaganda becomes more and more blatant, careless, and cynical over the years, as the Zionists become more and more assured of their firm grip of power and the media? Is that the message - see, we can stand the most obvious truth on its head, and there is nothing you can do about it?

    I think they are drunk with their own success and are playing with fire.
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  98. @jilles dykstra
    Cannot see why:
    - EU is becoming irrelevant
    - the USA must continue wars
    On the contrary, the USA must stop spending huge sums on wars that just cost money.
    Both the USA and the EU are pretty much autarcic, EU trade with non EU countries is just some 5% of gross EU income.
    Do not know the figure for the USA, but it must be in the same order of magnitude.
    The dollar indeed is a huge problem, but what will happen if the USA no longer pays interest on and amortisation of loans ?
    Not much, I suppose.
    A country cannot go bankrupt.
    Maybe China would have the biggest problem, the Chinese regime fails in making Chinese consume, they save.
    If export is no longer possible, huge unemployment will result.

    I’m no expert but maybe these people understand better than you and I.

    https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/China-Prepares-Death-Blow-To-The-Dollar.HTML

    Can you tell me why I shouldn’t take this seriously?

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    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China's economy.
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  99. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    NPR is about as truthful as NYT, WP, or Dr. Goebbels.
     
    of course, but 99% of the time, every word inflection they utter, every story they report of Honduran refugees from violence, or Mexican women trapped in poverty, are always, in unspoken ubiquitous agreement, all victims of white, male racism, oppression and the Patriarchy (working class white men who don't want to be gay or see their daughter have black babies).

    IOW with every blubbering sob story they tell, everything, always is a direct consequence of evil, racist right-wingers.

    Unless the right-wingers are Jewish supremacist IDF goons shooting unarmed Palestinian protesters - for giggles.

    Then it's all the Palestinians fault! How dare they protest on the anniversary of the glorious day of Jewish supremacism, genocide, mass-murder and the theft of their homes and farms and business!

    My point was just the ragging, over the top hypocrisy and vile double standards.

    If a teenager in El Salvador shoots another teenager, it's a direct consequence of the racism of white, male coal minors in West Virginia.

    But if a Palestinian is shot by the IDF, then it's suddenly the fault of the Palestinian.

    The mind reels from their glaring dishonesty and affront to any semblance of honor or decency.

    It's all agenda-driven lies, 24/7, 365.

    Further to your point: Like ‘Nazis who died in WWII’: Israeli minister dismisses victims of Gaza protests

    Is it just my impression, or is it true that the propaganda becomes more and more blatant, careless, and cynical over the years, as the Zionists become more and more assured of their firm grip of power and the media? Is that the message – see, we can stand the most obvious truth on its head, and there is nothing you can do about it?

    I think they are drunk with their own success and are playing with fire.

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    Like ‘Nazis who died in WWII’: Israeli minister dismisses victims of Gaza protests
     
    blaming the victim is one of their well known antics.

    “All responsibility for the bloodshed lies with the leaders of Hamas, who, with Nazi anger, endlessly shed blood to erase from people’s memories their own failures in the management of the Gaza Strip. Here it is, the truth.” he said.
     
    charming

    and yes, they're gloating now. Sure, we dominate your media and government and courts and banks and universities and Wall Street and Hollywood as our own little fiefdoms. And make you pay for it, just like we make you pay for the hostile invasion of your nations.

    'and what ya going to do about it ya little Nazi?'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3iHtoAg6cc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey_oP2Goef4
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  100. Swan Knight says: • Website

    You’re getting close Fred. At last you are willing to level some critisism on Zionism and Jews. And hey, next column about the wonders of Mexico had better include the centerfold spread of Playboy Playmate of the year Raquel Pomplun. As usual, a witty good read from Fred. One major disagreement. No US military action would be justified on behalf of Apartheid, genocidal Israel. Otherwise saying Fred, I wouldn’t sacrifice half of the little toe on one of my children’s feet to defend the Zionist state called Israel

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  101. Iris says:
    @Moi
    Mr. Reed is quite wrong when he says this (but hardly surprising):

    "If Iran were a threat to the existence of Israel, things would be different. If Muslims conquered the Jews, they would presumably treat them as badly as Israelis, and very likely worse. It would be ugly in the extreme. To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified."

    Perhaps he needs to brush up on ME history:

    For the record:
    In 638 CE Palestine fell to the Muslims under Caliph Omar. To this day, many Jews refer to the arrival of the Muslims as a "liberation" for Omar gave them unfettered access to Jerusalem, which they had been denied under the Christian Byzantines. Omar was equally generous to the Christians. "Never in the sorry story of conquest up to that day, and rarely since, were such noble and generous sentiments displayed by a conqueror as those extended to Jerusalem by Omar." (Report by Sir William Fitzgerald on the Local Administration of Jerusalem, Jerusalem: Government Printer, 1945, p.4)
    In 1187, Saladin liberated Jerusalem from the brutal Crusaders and invited the Jews they had expelled to return and practice their faith freely. (It is easy to understand why Palestine’s indigenous Arab Jews were among Zionism’s most ardent opponents.)
    To quote Israeli Rabbi Menachem Froman, chief rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Tekoa, and a champion of inter-religious reconciliation: "[E]very Jew who learns the writings of the great sages - who, at the head of them all stands Maimonides - knows that our great thinkers wrote in the Arabic language, lived in Islamic states and participated with the great Muslim thinkers in the effort to explain the words of God, according to the paths of the sages and amidst the difficult bloody battles that we have had since the beginning of Zionism with the Muslims." We know... that the war between the Jews and the Muslims is the work of the cursed devil. We know that Islam is named after peace." (Haaretz, September 18, 2006)

    Very interesting comment. Thank you.

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  102. Rurik says:
    @Mike P
    Further to your point: Like ‘Nazis who died in WWII’: Israeli minister dismisses victims of Gaza protests

    Is it just my impression, or is it true that the propaganda becomes more and more blatant, careless, and cynical over the years, as the Zionists become more and more assured of their firm grip of power and the media? Is that the message - see, we can stand the most obvious truth on its head, and there is nothing you can do about it?

    I think they are drunk with their own success and are playing with fire.

    Like ‘Nazis who died in WWII’: Israeli minister dismisses victims of Gaza protests

    blaming the victim is one of their well known antics.

    “All responsibility for the bloodshed lies with the leaders of Hamas, who, with Nazi anger, endlessly shed blood to erase from people’s memories their own failures in the management of the Gaza Strip. Here it is, the truth.” he said.

    charming

    and yes, they’re gloating now. Sure, we dominate your media and government and courts and banks and universities and Wall Street and Hollywood as our own little fiefdoms. And make you pay for it, just like we make you pay for the hostile invasion of your nations.

    ‘and what ya going to do about it ya little Nazi?’

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  103. Wally says:
    @Pat Kittle
    Fred,
    It took a while (your entire career up until this month) for you to criticize Zionism, Israel, or Jews, but by golly, you've done it! Congratulations.

    Obviously not all Jews have it in for the goyim. If they did (to cite the most immediate example) Ron Unz would not be providing this superb outpost of free speech.

    Nevertheless, Israel lobby war criminals, billionaires & politicians do not exist in a vacuum, isolated from all other Jews. If you doubt that, tell the next Jew you meet 6 million is bullshit. Paraphrase that however you please, but question the Holocau$t at your own risk.

    Monika Schaefer did exact that in this video, and now she's in prison:
    -- [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkuyApMZnlQ&bpctr=1526160603 ]

    As we see, JewTube butts into Monika's page, disabling "Certain features" & warning us not to look. If we're not intimidated by the JewTube warning and look anyway, we see JewTube inserts its own link -- to the Jewish Telegraph Agency / bnaibrith_ca. In that Jew link, we are assured that Monika deserves to spend perhaps years more in a German prison -- because she dared (in Canada) to disagree with the Official Jewish Version of WWII History.

    Most Jews don't fancy you questioning their Holocau$t. Do you dare, Fred?

    Hello Pat,

    Lots more on Monika Shaefer here:

    ‘German fiddler, Frau Schaefer, renounces indoctrination & apologizes to family for once believing in the impossible + more’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10448

    The world is getting the truth about The Usual Enemies of Free Speech and the lies they have profited from.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  104. @Rurik

    Like ‘Nazis who died in WWII’: Israeli minister dismisses victims of Gaza protests
     
    blaming the victim is one of their well known antics.

    “All responsibility for the bloodshed lies with the leaders of Hamas, who, with Nazi anger, endlessly shed blood to erase from people’s memories their own failures in the management of the Gaza Strip. Here it is, the truth.” he said.
     
    charming

    and yes, they're gloating now. Sure, we dominate your media and government and courts and banks and universities and Wall Street and Hollywood as our own little fiefdoms. And make you pay for it, just like we make you pay for the hostile invasion of your nations.

    'and what ya going to do about it ya little Nazi?'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3iHtoAg6cc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey_oP2Goef4

    Hamas is a creation of Israels mossad just like ISIS aka AL CIADA which creation is shared by the U.S. and Israel and Britain ie the CIA and the MOSSAD and MI6.

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  105. Wally says:
    @Chris Mallory

    To prevent this, use of the American military would be justified.
     
    No it wouldn't. Israel is no more the responsibility of the American tax payer than Rwanda was. Israel has made it's bed, let it lie in it.

    Chris rightly said:

    “Israel has made it’s bed, let it lie in it.”

    This is what the little Israeli mama’s boy rely on:

    http://www.codoh.com

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  106. wally says:
    @sarz
    The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms. I would give the quote but am unable to copy because of all the fancy software. But use your 'find in page' for "pogrom". Note that the word is Russian, meaning something like excessive violence.

    That the author is talking off the top of his head is forgivable. We are most of us carrying the same load of crap. But it would be good to see the level of scholarship here at Unz equal to that at the Dailystormer, from where I get this quote:


    In actual fact, the idea of pogroms in the Russian Empire, in which “thousands of Jews were slaughtered” has been utterly debunked. They’ve been debunked not by an obscure “Far Right” think-tank, but by Professor John Klier – a widely respected scholar and non-Jewish former head of the British Association for Jewish Studies who published his findings in a number of volumes via Cambridge University Press (I summarize Klier’s findings here). Among Klier’s findings, the most important of which can be found in Russians, Jews and the Pogroms of 1881-82 (2011) was that the vast majority of pogrom narratives were developed and disseminated by a single Prussian Rabbi – Yizhak Rülf. According to Klier, Rülf specialized in “sensationalized accounts of mass rape.” These accounts would then be disseminated in the Western media with the help of Jewish journalists, and used by groups like the British-based Russo-Jewish Committee to push for Western government ‘action’ against the Tsar. Despite contemporary British government investigations which revealed that no rapes had occurred and perhaps only one or two murders had been committed throughout the Russian Empire, and because most of the general public will never hear about the research of Professor Klier, the myth of thousands of massacred Jews in eastern pogroms remains in the popular consciousness, and is obviously still very deeply embedded in the Jewish folk memory.
     

    said:
    “The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms.”

    What “pogroms”?
    All anyone sees & hears are The Usual Enemies of Free Speech / Zionist empty claims, hardly reliable, to say the least.
    So where’s the proof?

    “Some stories are true that never happened.”
    - Elie Wiesel

    http://www.codoh.com

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  107. 1RW says:
    @Rurik

    herd the deplorables toward a desired folly
     
    couldn't resist, could ya Fred?

    for the record, the deplorables are and have been the least 'herd-able' members of the ZUSA demographic. We're the ones who know that our congress is Zionist occupied territory, that the media is Jewish supremacist owned, (which is why it specifically hates our deplorable, white, straight, male guts more than it hates anyone or anything else. Which, for a people known for a singularly unique capacity to hate, is saying a lot!) and that our central bank, (and consequently everything else of consequence, including the potus) are controlled ultimately by Zionist, Jewish supremacist Jews.

    And that goes for Western Europe as well. Duh.

    We're the ones that have been pointing out for decades that the ZUSA foreign policy is treasonous and wrong, murderous, criminal and Satanic. (how other than 'Satanic' can you characterize torturing innocents, terrorizing entire nations with terror drones, and assassination goon squads? Bombing and destroying country after country on behalf of a nation and people that hate your guts, and laugh at the idea of your children dying to kill their rivals)

    Such a deal!

    But. nevertheless, it's nice to see that at long last, Fred is loosening the chains around his own mind, and trickling out some dire truths.

    Here here

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  108. 1RW says:
    @Rich
    The Israelis are always looking for enemies to fight, and Iran, as a large country with a decent sized military and deeply Islamic government, is a possible threat, but I don't think Israel is the main reason most American leaders are for keeping pressure on Iran . I'd say the Saudis and the petrodollar are the main reason for the US trying to keep Iran poor and on the defensive. The Iranians will never accept American control over the Mideast oil supply, while the Saudis have signed on as long as we provide military protection. If the US ever allows the petrodollar to fail, its economy will crumble. That won't be allowed to happen without a fight.

    As usual, it’s both. Foreign Influencer #1 and Foreign Influencer #2 are terrified of Iran for a number of reasons. Frankly, if we ditch them both and ally with Iran we’d have more influence in the region. JK, Iran needs us far less than the other two. Anyway, go figure, our “friends” play us like a fiddle and get their problems solved.

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  109. @Rurik

    the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS
     
    the irony doesn't mitigate the tragedy, sad to say.

    I just listened to a NPR host describe how the Palestinians are 'violent' and throw rocks and fire bombs.

    The Australian (taxpayer funded) ABC is reporting “55 killed in violent protests” rather than more accurately reporting 55 killed in a violent response to peaceful protests. Disgusting!

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  110. renfro says:
    @sarz
    The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms. I would give the quote but am unable to copy because of all the fancy software. But use your 'find in page' for "pogrom". Note that the word is Russian, meaning something like excessive violence.

    That the author is talking off the top of his head is forgivable. We are most of us carrying the same load of crap. But it would be good to see the level of scholarship here at Unz equal to that at the Dailystormer, from where I get this quote:


    In actual fact, the idea of pogroms in the Russian Empire, in which “thousands of Jews were slaughtered” has been utterly debunked. They’ve been debunked not by an obscure “Far Right” think-tank, but by Professor John Klier – a widely respected scholar and non-Jewish former head of the British Association for Jewish Studies who published his findings in a number of volumes via Cambridge University Press (I summarize Klier’s findings here). Among Klier’s findings, the most important of which can be found in Russians, Jews and the Pogroms of 1881-82 (2011) was that the vast majority of pogrom narratives were developed and disseminated by a single Prussian Rabbi – Yizhak Rülf. According to Klier, Rülf specialized in “sensationalized accounts of mass rape.” These accounts would then be disseminated in the Western media with the help of Jewish journalists, and used by groups like the British-based Russo-Jewish Committee to push for Western government ‘action’ against the Tsar. Despite contemporary British government investigations which revealed that no rapes had occurred and perhaps only one or two murders had been committed throughout the Russian Empire, and because most of the general public will never hear about the research of Professor Klier, the myth of thousands of massacred Jews in eastern pogroms remains in the popular consciousness, and is obviously still very deeply embedded in the Jewish folk memory.
     

    Thanks for tip on Klier’s books…going to read them….meanwhile here’s one reader’s review
    …..

    Imperial Russia’s Jewish Question, 1855-1881

    https://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Question-1855-1881-Cambridge-Post-Soviet/dp/0521023815

    ”As an example of the latter, consider the views of V. T. Zotov. Klier writes, (quote) If there was any merit to the argument that the faults of the Jews were the consequence of Christian persecution, it could not hold for Russia where the Jews had been treated “like guests” since the partitions of Poland. The Jews had borne neither serfdom nor lifetime military service. Schools were built for them. Yet the West Russian Talmudists wanted more rights while still retaining the Talmud and looking down on the goyim. Having said this, Zotov professed not to disdain the entire Jewish race, but only its evildoers. (unquote). (p. 58
    The foregoing position enjoyed broad support. For instance, even liberal Russian newspapers rejected the position (or exculpation) that external conditions are solely responsible for the objectionable ways that Jews think and act. (pp. 376-377).

    JEWS AND FARMING

    ”It has been argued that Jews were stuck in narrow roles, such as the middleman and usurer, because they were forbidden by law to become farmers. This is a half-truth. The tsarist government had actually tried to get Jews to do “productive” work by promoting Jewish agricultural colonies since 1804. (p. 301). The government “relentlessly pursued” these schemes (p. 30), but they ended up a failure. (p. 265).

    LANDED ESTATES: JEWISH-RUSSIAN COLLABORATION AGAINST POLES

    The author does not specify how Jews acquired the estates of Polish owners who had been deported to Siberia in reprisal for the January 1863 Insurrection (thus being a mirror-image of Poles acquiring post-Jewish property after the Holocaust, as moralized by neo-Stalinist Jan T. Gross). Instead, Klier emphasizes the foundering of Russian efforts to use Jews against Poles because of Russian ambivalence towards Jews. However, he provides some clues related to joint Jewish-Russian actions against Poles.

    For a time, Jews were allowed by the tsarist authorities to acquire Polish land. Klier comments, (quote) Thus, the decree of 26 April 1862, which gave the Jews in the Southwestern and Western Regions the right to purchase gentry land, assumed that the Jews were allies of the Russian cause in the Ukraine. (unquote). (p. 185).

    A few years later, Jews were forbidden to own land. However, they came to possess land through indirect means. (p. 290). Leaseholding of land by Jews became common. (p. 306). Regardless of the exact details and successes of impending land-possession arrangements, a group of influential Jews did attempt to actively collaborate with the Russian authorities against Polish interests. Klier comments, (quote) Jews were permitted to lease gentry estates, but this was not enough for a group of first and second guild Jewish merchants in the Ukraine, who petitioned the Governor-General, I. I. Vasilchikov, for the right to acquire unsettled estates. Vasilchikov, a firm believer in using the Jews as an anti-Polish force in the region, was the right man to approach. He argued to the Jewish Committee that sale of estates to Jews would have the beneficial effect of taking them out of Polish hands…It was impolitic to tell the Poles what the government really hoped would happen to their land. (unquote). (p. 301).

    JEWISH ELITISM, AND SELF-INTERESTED ASSIMILATION

    The resistance of many Jews to acculturation and assimilation is usually framed in terms of the consideration that doing so would cause an unacceptable loss of essential Judaic elements (e. g, p. 103), or that a strongly Christian majoritarian atmosphere made it difficult for Jews to “fit” into gentile society. In addition, Jews must maintain their particularism as an antidote to anti-Semitism and the lack of Jewish legal equality with gentiles. (e. g, p. 106).

    However, Jewish attitudes have also been animated by the notion that the GOYIM are unworthy of Jewish assimilation–that is, unless the local Jews decide that their self-interest indicates otherwise, or that the nation in which they live is, or becomes, “good enough”–in Jewish opinion–to merit the Jews’ assimilation. Jewish Germanophilia also became a factor. The foregoing lines of thinking are exemplified by an article in the Jewish newspaper SION, which rejected linguistic acculturation (let alone assimilation). Klier comments, (quote) SION offered its own list of reasons why the Empire’s Jews were slow to speak Russian, none of them very flattering to Russians. On a daily basis, Yiddish served the Jews as the language of a separate caste of tradesmen within the wider society. Where economic necessity required the Jews to acquire another language, such as Ukrainian, they easily did so. Russian culture offered nothing that Jews saw as worthy of imitation, in contrast to German culture. There was even a “German Party” of Jews in Russia, seeking to introduce their fellows to the cultural riches of Germany. (unquote). (p. 106).

    In what is perhaps an ironic reversal of the minority conforming to the majority, the article in SION specified the economic and cultural terms that could make Russia worthy of Jewish acculturation and assimilation. Klier writes, (quote) Russian participation in the commercial life of the Empire must grow sufficiently to force knowledge of Russian out of economic necessity. The institutional network of Russian culture must expand sufficiently to justify and expedite its adoption by Jews. (unquote). (p. 107).

    Russia Gathers Her Jews: The Origins of the “Jewish Question” in Russia, 1772-1825

    https://www.amazon.com/Russia-Gathers-Her-Jews-1772-1825/dp/0875809839/ref=pd_sbs_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0875809839&pd_rd_r=JW3PYDZ0RTV8N0BWJEM9&pd_rd_w=w2grU&pd_rd_wg=4LTse&psc=1&refRID=JW3PYDZ0RTV8N0BWJEM9

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  111. @sarz
    The author refers to common hatred of Jews, expressed in pogroms. I would give the quote but am unable to copy because of all the fancy software. But use your 'find in page' for "pogrom". Note that the word is Russian, meaning something like excessive violence.

    That the author is talking off the top of his head is forgivable. We are most of us carrying the same load of crap. But it would be good to see the level of scholarship here at Unz equal to that at the Dailystormer, from where I get this quote:


    In actual fact, the idea of pogroms in the Russian Empire, in which “thousands of Jews were slaughtered” has been utterly debunked. They’ve been debunked not by an obscure “Far Right” think-tank, but by Professor John Klier – a widely respected scholar and non-Jewish former head of the British Association for Jewish Studies who published his findings in a number of volumes via Cambridge University Press (I summarize Klier’s findings here). Among Klier’s findings, the most important of which can be found in Russians, Jews and the Pogroms of 1881-82 (2011) was that the vast majority of pogrom narratives were developed and disseminated by a single Prussian Rabbi – Yizhak Rülf. According to Klier, Rülf specialized in “sensationalized accounts of mass rape.” These accounts would then be disseminated in the Western media with the help of Jewish journalists, and used by groups like the British-based Russo-Jewish Committee to push for Western government ‘action’ against the Tsar. Despite contemporary British government investigations which revealed that no rapes had occurred and perhaps only one or two murders had been committed throughout the Russian Empire, and because most of the general public will never hear about the research of Professor Klier, the myth of thousands of massacred Jews in eastern pogroms remains in the popular consciousness, and is obviously still very deeply embedded in the Jewish folk memory.
     

    It should be remembered that historically Jews did not live in Russia until the second partition of Poland, when large numbers of Jews came under Russian rule and they were stripped of the privileges that the Polish nobility had granted them (as feudal landlords). It is not surprising that there is so much collective hostility by Jews towards Russia today, as well as myth-making and diversion from the historical context of their relationship with Europeans.

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    said:
    "they were stripped of the privileges that the Polish nobility had granted them (as feudal landlords). "

    And rightly so.

    Of course Jews now call that a 'pogrom'. Jheeeesh.
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  112. Ron T says:

    Jews in the US are over-represented in the Senate, the House, Media, Hollywood, banking, campaign contributions, state department, judiciary branch, supreme court and all branches of government. You know where Jews are under-represented to non-existent? In the US armed forces. Go any day to Brooklyn and you’re much more likely to run into a Jew who served in the IDF than one who served in the goyim army. That explains why they have no qualms about sending thousands of rural whites and poor blacks to die in wars for the benefit of Israel.

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    Jews in the US are over-represented in the Senate, the House, Media, Hollywood, banking, campaign contributions, state department, judiciary branch, supreme court and all branches of government. You know where Jews are under-represented to non-existent? In the US armed forces. Go any day to Brooklyn and you’re much more likely to run into a Jew who served in the IDF than one who served in the goyim army.
     
    Yes. Jews are 33% of the Supreme Court, and 0.33% of the U.S. military.

    And they want to ban "assault weapons" for the goyim at home -- but "assault weapons" in the hands of U.S. troops killing hajis in the sandbox are just fine and dandy.
    , @RadicalCenter
    You're right.

    Same applies to the part of New Jersey where I grew up.

    A childhood friend of mine went on to volunteer into the IDF. On the one occasion when I saw him as an adult, when he was back in the States, he mentioned what he had been doing and I asked, with feigned innocence, "Oh, was the US military full?" He laughed, and I then indicated that I was seriously curious why he had joined a foreign military instead of our country's military. I also asked whether he would side with us or Israel if there were a war between us (he never did give a straight answer).

    He didn't laugh after that, and I'm glad that the conversation became uncomfortable for him, the traitorous ass.

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  113. MarkinLA says:
    @Shouting Thomas
    I always enjoy reading Fred's perspective. There's always some truth to it.

    That said, Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front and in foreign policy, particularly in Korea. Yes, Trump has dealt with some shady characters in his real estate dealings in NYC and Atlantic City. It is impossible to be a major player in real estate in these venues otherwise.

    I consider his experience in dealing with these shady characters a positive, not a negative. Trump is a hardened real world actor, not an idealistic academic.

    He's a lot smarter than Fred, a situation uniquely likely to cause these outpourings of jealousy by Fred.

    I have the odd feeling that Trump's supposedly idiot policy toward the Middle East will be as successful as his supposedly idiot policy toward Korea.

    Prez Trump has been remarkably successful in economic policy on the home front

    This always bugs me, people believing that the President did something that had any significant effect on the economy. Granted the masses will want to believe this and Trump will likely still have a GOP House and Senate but Trump is just in a better place than Obama was. Reagan was in a similar sweet spot (inflation tamed and PC industry exploding) but his policies led to the real estate bust that screwed GHWB. Along comes Clinton just as the mess is turning around and he gets the dot com kicker (which he did nothing to cause) as a bonus. GWB gets the bust but engineers a bubble of his own. Unfortunately it bursts on his watch.

    The idea that some change to an economic theory is more important than the rising of new industries and the falling of old ones is something that only people as stupid and as full of themselves as economists (PCR) could believe.

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  114. MarkinLA says:
    @exiled off mainstreet
    It would be extremely politically correct and would be excoriated, of course, but this creates an opening for a presidential campaign based on the slogan "no more Jewish wars." All it takes is somebody with the courage to go all out against neoliberalism and political correctness. Unfortunately, the history of the Nazi regime is still enabling the Israelis to wag the yankee dog and, while aping Nazi barbarism, still get a free pass for their own war crimes while inciting the yankee regime to be a world-wide dangerous bully, the volume of whose crimes (consider Yemen where a massive famine killing millions is likely) is approaching the benchmark set by the Nazi regime.

    Didn’t the guy running against Ryan – Paul Nehlen do this and was immediately denounced by everybody including the GOP?

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  115. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    It should be remembered that historically Jews did not live in Russia until the second partition of Poland, when large numbers of Jews came under Russian rule and they were stripped of the privileges that the Polish nobility had granted them (as feudal landlords). It is not surprising that there is so much collective hostility by Jews towards Russia today, as well as myth-making and diversion from the historical context of their relationship with Europeans.

    said:
    “they were stripped of the privileges that the Polish nobility had granted them (as feudal landlords). ”

    And rightly so.

    Of course Jews now call that a ‘pogrom’. Jheeeesh.

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  116. MarkinLA says:
    @Leist
    Its been fascinating how in the latest propaganda campaign that Iran's nuclear weapons program has suddenly become real. Before, while this deal was being negotiated, almost all the world's intelligence agencies agreed that Iran was not producing nuclear weapons. Only the Israelis disagreed. The war-war-war-and-more-endless-war factions of the American deep state said Iran was making nuclear weapons, but even then the official intelligence estimates said they were not.

    There is a lot of very slippery language around this. Before the deal, America and especially the pro-war media, had a way of talking about "Iran's nuclear program". This was a reference to Iran's legal and permitted civilian nuclear program, but done in a scary and threatening way that made the audience assume that it was about Iran's nuclear weapons, which is was not. Now, Trump takes this even further and rants and yells about "Iran's nuclear research" as if that was the same thing as a program producing nuclear weapons, which of course it is not.

    Trump is destroying America standing in the world and tearing apart the trans-Atlantic alliance all over a mythical nuclear weapons program that the Ayatollah had banned as being "un-Islamic" and which all the world's intelligence agencies agreed that Iran did not possess.

    Talk about very bad deals.

    Be optimistic. This might finally cause Europe to kick the US to the curb and NATO can finally be dissolved and we can finally stop sticking our noses into European affairs.

    There was one thing Osama Bin Laden said that was true and that was that the only way to get rid of the Americans is to kick them out.

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    Sadly that’s unlikely to happen because the US effectively subsidizes European military spending.
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  117. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    “If Trump were an American President, he would tell the Israelis to fight their own wars with their own military.”

    Unfortunately, Trump is only doing what about 40% of his Israel-worshiping IQ 85 base wants.

    We are truly doomed long term, and Trump is a symptom of what ails the nation: disintegrating demographics. Changing demographics has removed much of our nation’s previous cohesion and competence, and it has made it vulnerable to maroons like Trump. On the one hand, a significant portion of what the democrats have to say is right – no tax cuts for the rich, Wall Street regulation, investing in science and technology, a general aversion to evangelical loons, a more cautious foreign policy, a more equitably healthcare system available to all, not needlessly hating the poor, etc.

    However, on the other hand, their coalition also includes a bunch of SJW racists (and racist minorities) who hate whites and attack us constantly:

    We can’t wear our hair or dress in certain ways without being publicly accused of “cultural appropriation” (a racist term made up by racists who hate whites).

    They race replace our characters in movies.

    They attack us on television, in the movies, and on late night television.

    They promote endless immigration.

    They discriminate against us in college admissions.

    They peddle lies that they have to work harder than us for a worse result (hint: a study already proved the opposite; whites work harder in the workplace than blacks)

    They promote the blood libel of “white privilege” (sure buddy, like the world was actively helping me out because I’m white).

    They gave every race but ours a holiday or month.

    They gave minorities special protections and privileges (like special loans, government contracts, and higher acceptance rates into elite institutions) that we don’t get,

    And they’ll publicly ostracize you simply for repeating a scientifically valid but politically incorrect argument (IQ, minority crime statistics)…

    ….there is ALWAYS some kind of hate-whitey scandal going on.

    A lot of white Americans just can’t pull the trigger for people like that, and I don’t blame them. Therefore, we are stuck with republican elitists like Paul Ryan and a mafiaesque thug like Donald Trump. We have to tolerate their idiocy in order to keep the bad guy racists out of power. Sad.

    In the past, America was a competent, decent nation because it was an actual nation with a fairly unified populace. What moron thought trading that away would be a good thing?

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    In the past, America was a competent, decent nation because it was an actual nation with a fairly unified populace. What moron thought trading that away would be a good thing?
     
    Fred Reed

    But only when it comes to Mexicans.

    but he has a solution you see!

    Blend

    Blend with the Mexicans at the molecular-genetic level, until ethnically, culturally, spiritually and in every other way, white Americans are indistinguishable from Mexicans.

    Not only will that create harmony and cohesion, it will also solve America's crime and political and economic problems.

    Keep in mind, it was Europeans who blended with the indigenous Aztecs to create what we call Mexicans today. It's only fair and proper that we encourage them to blend with us now, in a great harmonizing wave of equality / utopian rainbows. This is Fred's relentless scold for all of us 'racist' Deplorables, who resist Fred's exhortations to blend, blend, blend! He calls us 'gas station louts' afraid of our 'precious bodily fluids', if we don't want to blend. True story.

    So at least in that narrow context, Fred is exactly spot on aligned with all Hollywood and Washington, DC Jews, who also demand the 'great blending' - to harmonize and equalize humanity into a brown morass of indistinguishable consumers, cannon fodder, and assorted amusements for the .01%.

    (as I've said before, I have nothing against Mexicans or any other nationality/ethnicity. Unless they're pouring across the borders in a transformational wave of demographic destiny. And that goes for N. America and Europe)

    Rurik ~ the gas station lout

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  118. @MarkinLA
    Be optimistic. This might finally cause Europe to kick the US to the curb and NATO can finally be dissolved and we can finally stop sticking our noses into European affairs.

    There was one thing Osama Bin Laden said that was true and that was that the only way to get rid of the Americans is to kick them out.

    Sadly that’s unlikely to happen because the US effectively subsidizes European military spending.

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  119. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:

    But while “the Jews” didn’t sink the Iran deal, a comparatively small number of Israel-firsters did. These are the Neocons, warlike and heavily Jewish, plus the Jewish lobby AIPAC plus a few Jewish billionaires.

    Okay, but then why don’t the Nice Hollywood Jewish Liberals — politically more representative of the majority of Jews — make some movies about how Evil Zionists are messing up royally for Iran and the World? Has Hollywood made a single movie about Palestinian suffering? So much for Nice Jewish Liberals.

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  120. Dr. X says:
    @Ron T
    Jews in the US are over-represented in the Senate, the House, Media, Hollywood, banking, campaign contributions, state department, judiciary branch, supreme court and all branches of government. You know where Jews are under-represented to non-existent? In the US armed forces. Go any day to Brooklyn and you're much more likely to run into a Jew who served in the IDF than one who served in the goyim army. That explains why they have no qualms about sending thousands of rural whites and poor blacks to die in wars for the benefit of Israel.

    Jews in the US are over-represented in the Senate, the House, Media, Hollywood, banking, campaign contributions, state department, judiciary branch, supreme court and all branches of government. You know where Jews are under-represented to non-existent? In the US armed forces. Go any day to Brooklyn and you’re much more likely to run into a Jew who served in the IDF than one who served in the goyim army.

    Yes. Jews are 33% of the Supreme Court, and 0.33% of the U.S. military.

    And they want to ban “assault weapons” for the goyim at home — but “assault weapons” in the hands of U.S. troops killing hajis in the sandbox are just fine and dandy.

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  121. @Wally
    said:
    "they were stripped of the privileges that the Polish nobility had granted them (as feudal landlords). "

    And rightly so.

    Of course Jews now call that a 'pogrom'. Jheeeesh.

    Really? What did they do to deserve that exactly?

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  122. @corstopitum
    I'm no expert but maybe these people understand better than you and I.

    https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/China-Prepares-Death-Blow-To-The-Dollar.HTML

    Can you tell me why I shouldn't take this seriously?

    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China’s economy.

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    But they are clearly transitioning to the Yuan so yes they don't want to immediately dump the dollar but I think it is a foregone conclusion. In any case at some point it will be worthless anyway so there will be little or no consequence to eventually dumping it.
    , @manorchurch

    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China’s economy.
     
    The Chinese prefer the long view. A precipitous abandonment of the so-called US petro-dollar will not be happening. Five years, at least? Maybe ten? What's the rush?

    I've seen CPAs do write-downs of 50% of revenues, and management orders new leather office furniture the next day. Company stayed in business, no problem.
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  123. Just a nit pick Fred so you don’t make people think “He didn’t know A so I wonder if he makes sense on B”. Israel is not a country without anything (i.e. natural resources) that anyone needs or wants. Its Tamar and Leviathan offshore gas fields are huge and going to provide exports as well as all Israel needs domestically.

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    A nitpick so that people don’t think you’re a complete fucking idiot: don’t say anything.
    , @renfro

    Its Tamar and Leviathan offshore gas fields are huge and going to provide exports as well as all Israel needs domestically.
     
    Well I see you have fallen for the hype. Israel recently let bids for their newly discovered oil fields......getting only two bids from small producers (one from India, the other I forget ) is unheard of ...meaning confidence in how much oil is there is not strong...hence no big league companies were interested.

    Israel only produces o.395 BBL/D/1K is of Feb 2018 while it consumes 300,000 barrels of oil daily.
    So its gotta find 261,000 more barrels a day to even meet domestic consumption....much less be an exporter of oil.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/crude-oil-production

    What Israel is trying to get is the Golan oil fields, the offshore oil fields Lebanon currently is drilling and the Syria oil fields and the big prize--Iran's oil fields.

    Israel and the Jews always do better at stealing than they do producing any thing.
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  124. Wally says:
    @annamaria
    Meanwhile, the ongoing celebration in Jerusalem features a remake of Warsaw Ghetto story. The Palestinians, the native populations, play Warsaw Jews and the Israelis, mostly aliyah from various foreign countries, play SS and SD: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/idf-kills-16-injures-600-gaza-us-celebrates-opening-jerusalem-embassy
    "The Schutzstaffel (literally "Protection Squadron") was a major paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP)... The two main constituent groups were the Allgemeine SS (General SS) and Waffen-SS (Armed SS). The Allgemeine SS was responsible for enforcing the racial policy of Nazi Germany and general policing, whereas the Waffen-SS consisted of combat units within Nazi Germany's military. A third component of the SS, the SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV), ran the concentration camps and extermination camps. Additional subdivisions of the SS included the Gestapo and the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) organizations. They were tasked with the detection of actual or potential enemies of the Nazi state, the neutralization of any opposition, policing the German people for their commitment to Nazi ideology, and providing domestic and foreign intelligence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel
    -- Sounds like Mossad and the "most moral" IDF.
    Warsaw Ghetto: "On January 18, 1943 ... the Germans suddenly entered the Warsaw Ghetto... Within hours, some 600 Jews were shot and 5,000 others removed from their residences. The Germans expected no resistance, but the action was brought to a halt by hundreds of insurgents armed with handguns and Molotov cocktails.
    Preparations to resist had been going on since the previous autumn. The first instance of Jewish armed struggle in Warsaw had begun. ... The final battle started on the eve of Passover of April 19, 1943, when a Nazi force consisting of several thousand troops entered the ghetto. After initial setbacks, 2,000 Waffen SS soldiers under the field command of Jürgen Stroop systematically burned and blew up the ghetto buildings, block by block, rounding up or murdering anybody they could capture." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto
    -- Sounds like the Menora offensive: https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2013/05/03/israels-illegal-use-of-white-phosphorus-during-operation-cast-lead/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

    And you have no proof for any of that impossible ‘holocaust’ propaganda that you found at Jew controlled Wikipedia. And neither do they. It’s all made up with no proof behind it.

    Seriously? You cite laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It’s rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.

    [MORE]

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    the facts here:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    http://www.codoh.com

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    You have some serious reading comprehension issues a cursory glance at AnnaMaria's comment history shows that she's very redpilled on the JQ. Posters redpilled on the JQ don't have to be hard revisionists they can still believe that the numbers are grossly exagerrated but some gassings and mass shootings took place. Your pointless sniping alienates the very people whose worldview has been rendered very favourable for the revisionist message.
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  125. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P
    Happily for you, the WTC dust has been carefully analysed, and large quantities of both reacted and unreacted nanothermite have been unambiguously documented.

    Do yourself and everyone else a favour - stop the name-calling and educate yourself.

    Typical 9/11 loony. Anyone who follows your “unambiguously documented” won’t find any evidence that the towers were blown up.

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    If your desire is to spread manure, refrain from using a keyboard to do so - instead, go to your nearest Kibbuz. They will be happy to accommodate you.
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  126. Hi Fred! You wrote:

    Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans. This probably is because they are more attentive and better informed than the notoriously clueless US public.

    C’mon man, you are CLUE-LESS when it comes to Jews.

    Jews have two faces:

    Face # 1 – Gallup polls, Opeds, LobbyLight Jew Groups etc
    Face # 2 – Behind Closed Doors what’s good for the Jews and let the goys be dam#ed.

    Jews are VERY HAPPY that Trump scrapped the Iran Deal…(they’ll never tell the goys)…Jews are Israel-Firsters and American traitors.

    I grew up as a Jew in an upper-middle class B’nai B’rith Synagogue. I know Jews, you don’t. Goys don’t have a clue on how Jew-deception blows smoke into their eyes.

    But there’s always hope for semi-enlightened goyisha bloggers…

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Publisher: Real Jew News @

    http://www.realjewnews.com/

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    Goys don’t have a clue on how Jew-deception blows smoke into their eyes.
     
    Thanks, Bro Nat, for trying to enlighten The Dumb Goyim to the truth of Jewish deception. I was one of the many goy who took these poll results at face value, especially when the Maven would repeatedly cite them to bolster his arguments that The Community did not support the agenda of the 52 Major Jewish Organizations.

    The world needs more truth-tellers like you.
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  127. @anonymous
    On a daily call in show that typically refrains from mentioning, or permitting mention of, negative comments about Jews or Israel, mention of killing of 37 Palestinians crept into coverage of the blessed event of opening US embassy in Jerusalem.

    Within about 10 minutes at least 4 callers registered their disgust with Israel and shame at support by US taxes and politicians -- Lindsey Graham & Ted Cruz were named & shamed.

    One take aeay: if more Americans Knew of Israel's vile behavior, the worm would turn and quickly.
    I hope I'm not thinking wishfully, this boil on humanity's butt needs lancing.

    One take away: if more Americans Knew of Israel’s vile behavior, the worm would turn and quickly.

    CNN & BBC international captured this massacre brilliantly on the left hand side of the screen you had the Jewish American power elite celebrating the opening of the embassy all talking about peace and on the right hand side of the screen you had tear gas, gunshots and thousands of terrified Palestinian kids throwing stones at objects they couldn’t even see, there was a picture of a boy shot on both legs trying to flee by crawling on his arms while all the time on the left hand side of the screen these masters of the world were saying what a brilliant move this was by Trump and how it would bring about peace. The body count steadily began to climb and by the time ZIOBOT Kushener was speaking it stood at 45 dead and 1700 injured and then came the moment I was eagerly waiting for. He spoke about what else the Holocau$T. I’ve never seen anything more Orwellian on Television. The incredible Chutzpah of these swine to bring up the Holocau$t while they are perpetrating a live massacre on TV!!

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    These are the gems which are lost on our people. Who can blame them. Quite a lot of them are now living paycheck to paycheck, while the rest are jacking themselves off to oblivion.

    Bread, sex and circuses is what defines ZUS at home while abroad it stands for misery, death and dispair.

    After the ziocons have used the dumb goyim for their goals in the ME, they will definitely pull the plug after making sure their brethren are safely ensconed in Argentina or Shanghai!! Things will then start getting "interesting" with so many interest groups and so little left, it will be a real dog eat dog scenario between the dotheads, the chinese, the mestizos and whatever is left of whitey

    Will our people ever see the light?
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  128. @anarchyst
    Not only that, Israel refuses to extradite any jew criminal who makes it to Israel...

    Not true though I think Istael does tend to try its own in a way which I would commend to any country concerned to make sure its own citizens receive fair trials. Extradition from Israel may not be common but there seems nothing now to prevent Malka Leifer being extradited to Australia for sexual abuse of her female students at an Ultra Orthodox school in Melbourne. Several Jewish women have taken the lead in making it happen.

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  129. @Wally
    And you have no proof for any of that impossible 'holocaust' propaganda that you found at Jew controlled Wikipedia. And neither do they. It's all made up with no proof behind it.

    Seriously? You cite laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It's rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    the facts here:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    www.codoh.com

    You have some serious reading comprehension issues a cursory glance at AnnaMaria’s comment history shows that she’s very redpilled on the JQ. Posters redpilled on the JQ don’t have to be hard revisionists they can still believe that the numbers are grossly exagerrated but some gassings and mass shootings took place. Your pointless sniping alienates the very people whose worldview has been rendered very favourable for the revisionist message.

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  130. @Grahamsno(G64)

    One take away: if more Americans Knew of Israel’s vile behavior, the worm would turn and quickly.
     
    CNN & BBC international captured this massacre brilliantly on the left hand side of the screen you had the Jewish American power elite celebrating the opening of the embassy all talking about peace and on the right hand side of the screen you had tear gas, gunshots and thousands of terrified Palestinian kids throwing stones at objects they couldn't even see, there was a picture of a boy shot on both legs trying to flee by crawling on his arms while all the time on the left hand side of the screen these masters of the world were saying what a brilliant move this was by Trump and how it would bring about peace. The body count steadily began to climb and by the time ZIOBOT Kushener was speaking it stood at 45 dead and 1700 injured and then came the moment I was eagerly waiting for. He spoke about what else the Holocau$T. I've never seen anything more Orwellian on Television. The incredible Chutzpah of these swine to bring up the Holocau$t while they are perpetrating a live massacre on TV!!

    These are the gems which are lost on our people. Who can blame them. Quite a lot of them are now living paycheck to paycheck, while the rest are jacking themselves off to oblivion.

    Bread, sex and circuses is what defines ZUS at home while abroad it stands for misery, death and dispair.

    After the ziocons have used the dumb goyim for their goals in the ME, they will definitely pull the plug after making sure their brethren are safely ensconed in Argentina or Shanghai!! Things will then start getting “interesting” with so many interest groups and so little left, it will be a real dog eat dog scenario between the dotheads, the chinese, the mestizos and whatever is left of whitey

    Will our people ever see the light?

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    Will our people ever see the light?
     
    I believe so, both the antifa/BDS/SJW crowd on the left and the increasingly important white identity movement on the right have no love for the tribe, yesterday's massacre was I think something of a watershed moment, the tribe could not gloss over it because the demonstrators were not armed which is why I sensed a deep sense of discomfort nay almost revulsion amongst the female CNN commentators having to gloss over this horrific massacre.

    The increasingly islamicized Europe is fed up of them, Jeremy Corbyn's Labor party want nothing to do with them. They the tribe being pathological narcissists incapable of self reflection have predictably overplayed their hands once again and the same tragic consequences will follow. It's still not too late for them to change course but they're drunk on power and cruelty. Have hope the times they are a changing.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Sadly, your prediction seems sound.

    Just a quibble: the dotheads and Africans in the USA won't stand a chance physically or politically. The Mexicans will have the numbers to overpower just about anyone and anything in most of California, Texas, and many other States.

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  131. Momus says:
    @Astuteobservor II
    the timing of this article is just impeccable. since israel just killed 52 and injured 2000+ protesters.

    Haaha.

    The Hamas leadership has been refining their version of ‘Futile Suicide Terrorism’ for a while. They have it down to fine art now.

    Crazed ideologues.

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    Israel-firsters have united with banderites/neo-Nazis in Ukraine and with ISIS in the Middle East: http://theduran.com/syrian-army-has-evidence-isis-terrorists-use-israeli-weapons-video/
    http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2017/Xproof%20Nazis%20in%20Ukraine.pdf
    Your genocidal zionists' lot is a grave danger to the western civilization.
    No wonder you cherish the memory of the despicable terrorists Begin and Sharon but the great humanist Baruch Spinoza is buried outside a Jewish cemetery.
    "Terrorism as the Root Philosophy of Political Zionism:"
    http://www.thehypertexts.com/Israeli%20Prime%20Ministers%20Terrorists%20Nakba.htm
    , @Astuteobservor II
    I am more and more convinced everyday why the prediction of dirty bombs is the future for israel.

    enjoy your future dirty bombs.
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  132. Momus says:
    @Mike P
    Happily for you, the WTC dust has been carefully analysed, and large quantities of both reacted and unreacted nanothermite have been unambiguously documented.

    Do yourself and everyone else a favour - stop the name-calling and educate yourself.

    Guano mate.

    Your ‘nano thermite’ proves nothing.

    Thermite is dead easy to make; there is no proof any was collected from Ground Zero or that the towers were sabotaged.

    Moonbat.

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    Each time I post a link this excellent paper, which makes it perfectly clear to anyone with a brain and some basic knowledge in chemistry that indeed the WTC dust contains a large amount of explosives, of the very kind that can explain all the otherwise unaccounted-for strange features of the WTC1 and WTC2 collapse, I find myself with one or more trolls on my heels that want to start a name-calling match.

    Funny how that works. Or maybe not? It would be really easy to write a bot - it would take me about 20 minutes, tops - that scans each page at unz.com periodically, harvests all the links in the comments, and flags those that need an emergency intervention. Then, some paid troll springs into action, not without letting out a curse, because he was disturbed while feeling up the female colleague at the desk next to him (but maybe I am too optimistic about the perks that come with your job - maybe it's just Youtube for you).
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  133. @HogHappenin
    These are the gems which are lost on our people. Who can blame them. Quite a lot of them are now living paycheck to paycheck, while the rest are jacking themselves off to oblivion.

    Bread, sex and circuses is what defines ZUS at home while abroad it stands for misery, death and dispair.

    After the ziocons have used the dumb goyim for their goals in the ME, they will definitely pull the plug after making sure their brethren are safely ensconed in Argentina or Shanghai!! Things will then start getting "interesting" with so many interest groups and so little left, it will be a real dog eat dog scenario between the dotheads, the chinese, the mestizos and whatever is left of whitey

    Will our people ever see the light?

    Will our people ever see the light?

    I believe so, both the antifa/BDS/SJW crowd on the left and the increasingly important white identity movement on the right have no love for the tribe, yesterday’s massacre was I think something of a watershed moment, the tribe could not gloss over it because the demonstrators were not armed which is why I sensed a deep sense of discomfort nay almost revulsion amongst the female CNN commentators having to gloss over this horrific massacre.

    The increasingly islamicized Europe is fed up of them, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labor party want nothing to do with them. They the tribe being pathological narcissists incapable of self reflection have predictably overplayed their hands once again and the same tragic consequences will follow. It’s still not too late for them to change course but they’re drunk on power and cruelty. Have hope the times they are a changing.

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    Europe is increasingly Islamic, to be sure, and that is a tragedy.

    But Muslims probably won't take national power, or influence national government officials, sufficiently to fundamentally change Europe's obeisance to Israel and its wars within the next ten years or so -- although the Germans, French, English, Italians et al. seem to be competing to see who can frantically admit Muslims the fastest and submit to sharia the soonest.
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  134. geokat62 says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Hi Fred! You wrote:

    Surveys have shown that American Jews favor the Iran deal more than do other Americans. This probably is because they are more attentive and better informed than the notoriously clueless US public.
     
    C'mon man, you are CLUE-LESS when it comes to Jews.

    Jews have two faces:

    Face # 1 - Gallup polls, Opeds, LobbyLight Jew Groups etc
    Face # 2 - Behind Closed Doors what's good for the Jews and let the goys be dam#ed.

    Jews are VERY HAPPY that Trump scrapped the Iran Deal...(they'll never tell the goys)...Jews are Israel-Firsters and American traitors.

    I grew up as a Jew in an upper-middle class B'nai B'rith Synagogue. I know Jews, you don't. Goys don't have a clue on how Jew-deception blows smoke into their eyes.

    But there's always hope for semi-enlightened goyisha bloggers...

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Publisher: Real Jew News @
    http://www.realjewnews.com/

    Goys don’t have a clue on how Jew-deception blows smoke into their eyes.

    Thanks, Bro Nat, for trying to enlighten The Dumb Goyim to the truth of Jewish deception. I was one of the many goy who took these poll results at face value, especially when the Maven would repeatedly cite them to bolster his arguments that The Community did not support the agenda of the 52 Major Jewish Organizations.

    The world needs more truth-tellers like you.

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  135. I live in Canada–you know, that country that sits directly between the U.S. and Russia. We fought as your ally in World Wars I and II, Korea and Afghanistan. We’re the second largest country in the world and, because of our low population and resultant tax base have one of the smallest military forces in the world. Good, but really, really tiny.
    If US national security is really what all those billions being poured into the Israeli treasury each year are about, how come none of it ever finds its way north of the border?
    Not beggin’, just askin’.

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  136. @Wizard of Oz
    Just a nit pick Fred so you don't make people think "He didn't know A so I wonder if he makes sense on B". Israel is not a country without anything (i.e. natural resources) that anyone needs or wants. Its Tamar and Leviathan offshore gas fields are huge and going to provide exports as well as all Israel needs domestically.

    A nitpick so that people don’t think you’re a complete fucking idiot: don’t say anything.

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    Not a nitpick. Try learning from renfro's reply if you are capable of learning.
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  137. Mike P says:
    @Anon
    Typical 9/11 loony. Anyone who follows your "unambiguously documented" won't find any evidence that the towers were blown up.

    If your desire is to spread manure, refrain from using a keyboard to do so – instead, go to your nearest Kibbuz. They will be happy to accommodate you.

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  138. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    Haaha.

    The Hamas leadership has been refining their version of 'Futile Suicide Terrorism' for a while. They have it down to fine art now.

    Crazed ideologues.

    Israel-firsters have united with banderites/neo-Nazis in Ukraine and with ISIS in the Middle East: http://theduran.com/syrian-army-has-evidence-isis-terrorists-use-israeli-weapons-video/

    http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2017/Xproof%20Nazis%20in%20Ukraine.pdf

    Your genocidal zionists’ lot is a grave danger to the western civilization.
    No wonder you cherish the memory of the despicable terrorists Begin and Sharon but the great humanist Baruch Spinoza is buried outside a Jewish cemetery.
    “Terrorism as the Root Philosophy of Political Zionism:”

    http://www.thehypertexts.com/Israeli%20Prime%20Ministers%20Terrorists%20Nakba.htm

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  139. @Momus
    Haaha.

    The Hamas leadership has been refining their version of 'Futile Suicide Terrorism' for a while. They have it down to fine art now.

    Crazed ideologues.

    I am more and more convinced everyday why the prediction of dirty bombs is the future for israel.

    enjoy your future dirty bombs.

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  140. Sparkon says:
    @Mike P
    Happily for you, the WTC dust has been carefully analysed, and large quantities of both reacted and unreacted nanothermite have been unambiguously documented.

    Do yourself and everyone else a favour - stop the name-calling and educate yourself.

    Conspicuous by its absence in your comment, Mike P, is any mention of what else was found in the WTC dust samples collected by the USGS:

    common fission products that show up on the chemistry table of the USGS dust samples: Arsenic, Rubidium, Strontium, Barium, Yttrium, Niobium, Molybdenum, Silver, Cadmium, Antimony, Cesium, Lanthanum and Cerium.

    Photo: Veterans Today

    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?

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    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?
     
    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you've got to show that they found it.

    The presence of copious amounts of nanothermite, as well as its reaction products, in the dust produced by the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses is clearly documented in the the scientific paper by Harrit, Jones et al.

    That does not rule out, of course, that nuclear devices were not also used. If you can support your claim by some well-documented study that is similarly specific, thorough, and scientifically sound, and which clearly shows the presence of radioactive isotopes of strontium etc. (as opposed to trace amounts of their stable isotopes), please share it. Following your link, I could locate no such thing.

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  141. MacNucc11 says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China's economy.

    But they are clearly transitioning to the Yuan so yes they don’t want to immediately dump the dollar but I think it is a foregone conclusion. In any case at some point it will be worthless anyway so there will be little or no consequence to eventually dumping it.

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  142. Rurik says:
    @Anon
    "If Trump were an American President, he would tell the Israelis to fight their own wars with their own military."

    Unfortunately, Trump is only doing what about 40% of his Israel-worshiping IQ 85 base wants.

    We are truly doomed long term, and Trump is a symptom of what ails the nation: disintegrating demographics. Changing demographics has removed much of our nation's previous cohesion and competence, and it has made it vulnerable to maroons like Trump. On the one hand, a significant portion of what the democrats have to say is right - no tax cuts for the rich, Wall Street regulation, investing in science and technology, a general aversion to evangelical loons, a more cautious foreign policy, a more equitably healthcare system available to all, not needlessly hating the poor, etc.

    However, on the other hand, their coalition also includes a bunch of SJW racists (and racist minorities) who hate whites and attack us constantly:

    We can't wear our hair or dress in certain ways without being publicly accused of "cultural appropriation" (a racist term made up by racists who hate whites).

    They race replace our characters in movies.

    They attack us on television, in the movies, and on late night television.

    They promote endless immigration.

    They discriminate against us in college admissions.

    They peddle lies that they have to work harder than us for a worse result (hint: a study already proved the opposite; whites work harder in the workplace than blacks)

    They promote the blood libel of "white privilege" (sure buddy, like the world was actively helping me out because I'm white).

    They gave every race but ours a holiday or month.

    They gave minorities special protections and privileges (like special loans, government contracts, and higher acceptance rates into elite institutions) that we don't get,

    And they'll publicly ostracize you simply for repeating a scientifically valid but politically incorrect argument (IQ, minority crime statistics)...

    ....there is ALWAYS some kind of hate-whitey scandal going on.

    A lot of white Americans just can't pull the trigger for people like that, and I don't blame them. Therefore, we are stuck with republican elitists like Paul Ryan and a mafiaesque thug like Donald Trump. We have to tolerate their idiocy in order to keep the bad guy racists out of power. Sad.

    In the past, America was a competent, decent nation because it was an actual nation with a fairly unified populace. What moron thought trading that away would be a good thing?

    In the past, America was a competent, decent nation because it was an actual nation with a fairly unified populace. What moron thought trading that away would be a good thing?

    Fred Reed

    But only when it comes to Mexicans.

    but he has a solution you see!

    Blend

    Blend with the Mexicans at the molecular-genetic level, until ethnically, culturally, spiritually and in every other way, white Americans are indistinguishable from Mexicans.

    Not only will that create harmony and cohesion, it will also solve America’s crime and political and economic problems.

    Keep in mind, it was Europeans who blended with the indigenous Aztecs to create what we call Mexicans today. It’s only fair and proper that we encourage them to blend with us now, in a great harmonizing wave of equality / utopian rainbows. This is Fred’s relentless scold for all of us ‘racist’ Deplorables, who resist Fred’s exhortations to blend, blend, blend! He calls us ‘gas station louts’ afraid of our ‘precious bodily fluids’, if we don’t want to blend. True story.

    So at least in that narrow context, Fred is exactly spot on aligned with all Hollywood and Washington, DC Jews, who also demand the ‘great blending’ – to harmonize and equalize humanity into a brown morass of indistinguishable consumers, cannon fodder, and assorted amusements for the .01%.

    (as I’ve said before, I have nothing against Mexicans or any other nationality/ethnicity. Unless they’re pouring across the borders in a transformational wave of demographic destiny. And that goes for N. America and Europe)

    Rurik ~ the gas station lout

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    On a lighter note, I wouldn't mind "blending" with a Salma Hayek lookalike or better yet if they have anything like those brown tiffanies straight outta enrique's videos!!

    Perhaps Fred was horribly bitten by one of these lady bugs so much so that he wants all of us to share the "joy" that he has experienced in the welcoming arms (and legs) of these brown honeys!

    But you gotta give me credit where its due. He called out the JQ which was highly unexpected from him. So it did come up as a big surprise to many and a pleasant one at that!

    , @RadicalCenter
    Well said, Rurik, and Federico Reed deserved every word of it.
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  143. Mike P says:
    @Sparkon
    Conspicuous by its absence in your comment, Mike P, is any mention of what else was found in the WTC dust samples collected by the USGS:

    common fission products that show up on the chemistry table of the USGS dust samples: Arsenic, Rubidium, Strontium, Barium, Yttrium, Niobium, Molybdenum, Silver, Cadmium, Antimony, Cesium, Lanthanum and Cerium.
     
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1167490_552406588127696_459524344_o.jpg

    Photo: Veterans Today

    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?

    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?

    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you’ve got to show that they found it.

    The presence of copious amounts of nanothermite, as well as its reaction products, in the dust produced by the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses is clearly documented in the the scientific paper by Harrit, Jones et al.

    That does not rule out, of course, that nuclear devices were not also used. If you can support your claim by some well-documented study that is similarly specific, thorough, and scientifically sound, and which clearly shows the presence of radioactive isotopes of strontium etc. (as opposed to trace amounts of their stable isotopes), please share it. Following your link, I could locate no such thing.

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    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you’ve got to show that they found it.
    [...]
    Following your link, I could locate no such thing.
     
    My link was to the fairly lengthy Don Fox article at Veterans Today, which itself includes links to 37 additional VT articles. You must be a fast reader to have reviewed all that in less than an hour. You also must have missed this photograph:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1401410_572887909412897_1859234833_o.jpg
    M291 resin is required in order to prepare for a full radiological decontamination at ground zero. Dozens of trucks immediately on scene the afternoon of 9/11 with this military grade decontamination material.
    (Original VT photo & caption)

    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?

    , @Sparkon
    I see that someone at Unz Review has summarily deleted Jonathan's Revusky's very popular article on Betty Ong and 9/11.

    Ron Unz on May 8, 2:37Z


    Indeed, it just passed 160,000 words, easily breaking all previous records for this website.
     
    Yes, we know Mr. Ron Unz likes to thump his chest about hosting all the banned books and videos from YouBoob, while at the same time he exercises censorship of popular articles on his own blog!

    And here all this time - poor gullible me! -- I have been regarding Mr. Unz as a paragon of fairness and objectivity even with all his millions, a stalwart man who is entirely dedicated to promoting and safeguarding free speech -- even while referring to no planes theorists as "nuts" -- so I admit I can't get it through my widdle head: I'm cwushed Mr. Unz. How could you do it?

    Was it mendacity, or was it chutzpah?

    Or maybe $10,000?

    Well, whatever provoked Unz to do the dirty deed, fair is fair, and with Mr. Reed's gracious indulgence, I will now repost a comment of mine from the deleted article.


    Sparkon says:
    May 13, 2018 at 5:28 pm GMT • 300 Words
    Anonymous

    The ‘nanothermite’ they used on WTC1,2,7 was an explosive.
     
    At best, nanothermite is a weak explosive.

    According to scientific analysis I’ve seen, nanothermite does not have explosive effects powerful or energetic enough to account for what happened to the buildings in New York’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

    Chemical engineer T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer) on Aug. 26, 2011:


    So 895 m/s is the highest velocity yet to be found for an iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite in the scientific literature, where this velocity is far too low to have played a significant role in the destruction of the Twin Towers by means of its shock waves.

    Let’s examine the reason for that important last statement. The “destructive fragmentation effect” of an explosive is its detonation velocity, or the speed of the shock wave through the substance it is traveling in. To significantly fragment a substance, the detonation velocity of the explosive must equal or exceed the sonic velocity (the speed of sound) in the material.

    For example, the speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 m/s. In steel, the speed of sound is 6,100 m/s. Conventional high explosives such as TNT and RDX have detonation velocities of 6,900 and 8,750 m/s respectively, and are therefore capable of fragmenting concrete and steel, because both 6,900 and 8,750 exceed the sonic velocities of 3,200 m/s required to shatter concrete and 6,100 m/s required to shatter steel.

    As Dwain Deets has diagrammed, at only 895 m/s, iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite does not come close to TNT and RDX.
     

    – T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer)

    (My formatting edits for clarity and impact)
     

    http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2011/08/nanothermite-if-it-doesnt-fit-you-must.html

    On May 15, 2018, I had Mr. Revusky's article "Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty” (with 1315 comments) open in a browser tab. When I refreshed that tab, I got a message to the effect that "This page does not exist at Unz Review."

    But I had already saved the entire article and discussion with all 1315 comments to a cloud drive elsewhere, and backed up in multiple locations, so I will be able to quote from it freely should the occasion arise.

    Bottom line: as shown by the Hightower's numbers, nanothermite does not have the explosive energy to account for the destruction of the WTC as reflected in the existing videos, and it's not even close.

    Nanothermite is therefore most likely a red herring.

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  144. @Rurik

    moonbase on the dark side, from which the Andromedans monitor us?

    Fucking moonbats.
     
    'methinks the lady doth protest too much

    ‘methinks the lady doth protest too much

    Methinks videos of holes in walls prove nothing, and exhibit only fanatic obsession.

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  145. @Rurik

    your 9/11 billets doux.

     

    well, since this is a thread that's putatively about Zionist/Jewish supremacist treachery- to get the US to fight all its endless wars, perhaps a slight 9/11 concession is in order, and you'll kindly explain how, not just the BBC, but Fox News also reported on the collapse of building seven before it fell.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFdcPv3XXI

    The collapse of building seven wasn't just part of the worst crime ever committed on US soil, but also was an event of such staggering engineering failures, that surely the architectural community and structural engineers would have wanted to pour over every rivet and bolt and weld that failed in this incomprehensible case of the laws of physics being turned upside down, for the fist time in known history or physical sciences.

    and yet rather than use the forensic evidence of this crime and structural failure to figure out how it happened, so as to make sure it doesn't happen again, they immediately ship it all off to China to be melted down, obviously not wanting anyone to even know about it.

    The fall of building seven wasn't even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

    In fact, if you ask a thousand people about 'building seven on 9/11, perhaps one in a thousand will even know what you're talking about.

    They'll have heard of the 'terrorists passport' that fell to the street out of the fireballs and destruction- enough to turn hundreds of tons of steel and concrete into fine powder, but not destructive enough to thwart the terrorists magic passport from floating into the FBI's awaiting hands.

    Anyways, so yes. The key to 9/11 is building seven. Once you realize they're lying about that, it only follows they're lying about it all.

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they're lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.

    just how many lies are you willing to swallow, manorchurch, before you gag and start to spit?

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they’re lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.

    And you expect me to what? Convert to the most wackadoodle theory of crazy-ass “they was cornspirtors, and they had nookular weapons, and 100 tons of nanothermite (that most scary of all residues, LOL). And… and… and a bazillion peepul in the gummint planted grenades in the buildings, and salted the air-conditioning with Mooselimb vapors”, and … and …. IT’S A CONSPEERACY!!!!

    Mother-fucker, what a pack of moronic stooges you wackadoodles be.

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    There is an old trial lawyers’ saying “When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on you side, pound the table.”
     
    Pretty clear which one you are attempting here. You simply have nothing to work with at all, so you just shout insults. By all means, carry on, make an exhibition of yourself - and don't forget to show your mum, she will be so proud of you.
    , @MacNucc11
    I would like to hear your theory of how things occurred. I am sure it is to be pretty wack a doodle and moonbat but go ahead, enlighten all of us.
    , @Rurik

    And you expect me to what?
     
    to wake your (self-anesthetized) brain

    I'm not writing this to you, (you're obviously too obtuse to comprehend anything more nuanced than the msm cud you're chewing). I'm writing this to any and all people cognizant enough to comprehend that advance knowledge of a building's implosion, (that could not have been anticipated any more than it can be explained today), is *proof* that someone knew building seven was going to collapse, and the ONLY ones who could have known that, are the ones who ultimately wired the building for its OBVIOUS controlled demolition. Duh!

    Now, as to the dullard I'm replying to..

    If you don't have an explanation for how the BBC and Fox News knew the building was going to fall (and reported the collapse before it happened), then kindly go suck your thumb in the corner. This space is for thinking adults with two or more synapses to rub together, and realize that we've been lied to about virtually everything that happened on 9/11. Just like with the USS Liberty, and so many other false flag attacks.

    if that hurts your 'mind' to contemplate, then that's a good thing! That means that those two synapses are struggling to communicate, and soon they may break free of your self-imposed cognitive languor.

    Hope springs eternal...

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  146. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China's economy.

    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China’s economy.

    The Chinese prefer the long view. A precipitous abandonment of the so-called US petro-dollar will not be happening. Five years, at least? Maybe ten? What’s the rush?

    I’ve seen CPAs do write-downs of 50% of revenues, and management orders new leather office furniture the next day. Company stayed in business, no problem.

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    Yes. What can't go on eventually stops. But apparently there's a lot of ruin in a nation.
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  147. Mike P says:
    @Momus
    Guano mate.

    Your 'nano thermite' proves nothing.

    Thermite is dead easy to make; there is no proof any was collected from Ground Zero or that the towers were sabotaged.

    Moonbat.

    Each time I post a link this excellent paper, which makes it perfectly clear to anyone with a brain and some basic knowledge in chemistry that indeed the WTC dust contains a large amount of explosives, of the very kind that can explain all the otherwise unaccounted-for strange features of the WTC1 and WTC2 collapse, I find myself with one or more trolls on my heels that want to start a name-calling match.

    Funny how that works. Or maybe not? It would be really easy to write a bot – it would take me about 20 minutes, tops – that scans each page at unz.com periodically, harvests all the links in the comments, and flags those that need an emergency intervention. Then, some paid troll springs into action, not without letting out a curse, because he was disturbed while feeling up the female colleague at the desk next to him (but maybe I am too optimistic about the perks that come with your job – maybe it’s just Youtube for you).

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    It would be really easy to write a bot – it would take me about 20 minutes, tops – that scans each page at unz.com periodically, harvests all the links in the comments, and flags those that need an emergency intervention. Then, some paid troll springs into action, not without letting out a curse, because he was disturbed while feeling up the female colleague at the desk next to him
     
    You wackadoodles are good for a daily laugh, but nutjobs post way too much here, and some filters must be put in place. I mean you no harm -- most wackies can barely buy shoes by themselves -- but your posts have no valid content, no analysis, no inspection. They're just partisan wackadoodle bullshit. So, you go on the Ignore List.
    , @Momus
    That obscure journal you quote from collapsed 5 years ago.

    I'm sure you could analyse the dust in my engineering workshop and come to some alarming conclusions based on the metal and chemical samples you would find.

    Hell, among it might be some tritium or polonium from an old smoke detector.

    I'm not calling you names; making extraordinary claims requires corresponding evidence, not mundane findings trumped up to look like damning evidence.
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  148. Sparkon says:
    @Mike P

    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?
     
    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you've got to show that they found it.

    The presence of copious amounts of nanothermite, as well as its reaction products, in the dust produced by the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses is clearly documented in the the scientific paper by Harrit, Jones et al.

    That does not rule out, of course, that nuclear devices were not also used. If you can support your claim by some well-documented study that is similarly specific, thorough, and scientifically sound, and which clearly shows the presence of radioactive isotopes of strontium etc. (as opposed to trace amounts of their stable isotopes), please share it. Following your link, I could locate no such thing.

    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you’ve got to show that they found it.
    [...]
    Following your link, I could locate no such thing.

    My link was to the fairly lengthy Don Fox article at Veterans Today, which itself includes links to 37 additional VT articles. You must be a fast reader to have reviewed all that in less than an hour. You also must have missed this photograph:
    M291 resin is required in order to prepare for a full radiological decontamination at ground zero. Dozens of trucks immediately on scene the afternoon of 9/11 with this military grade decontamination material.
    (Original VT photo & caption)

    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?

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    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?
     
    No. I see trucks with stuff on them. What that stuff may be I have no way of knowing.

    The page you linked to has indeed a lot of other links on it, but I hope you don't expect me to look for scientific evidence on pages with titles such as "the connection between aurora and black triangles." Also, those plots with ppm values of barium etc. are of undeclared provenience, it isn't clear where and how and using what samples these determinations were made, whether the isotopes detected were indeed radioactive etc.

    I am willing to entertain the idea that nukes were used, but I need proof. What you have shown so far does not come close to supporting your case.
    , @Momus
    This picture shows what exactly?
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  149. @manorchurch

    Because China holds $1.17 trillion of US debt. A collapsing dollar would seriously damage China’s economy.
     
    The Chinese prefer the long view. A precipitous abandonment of the so-called US petro-dollar will not be happening. Five years, at least? Maybe ten? What's the rush?

    I've seen CPAs do write-downs of 50% of revenues, and management orders new leather office furniture the next day. Company stayed in business, no problem.

    Yes. What can’t go on eventually stops. But apparently there’s a lot of ruin in a nation.

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    Yes. What can’t go on eventually stops. But apparently there’s a lot of ruin in a nation.
     
    Population pressure is the actual problem. I'm just saying China will deal with it in good time. We owe them a shipload of money; they will go about recovering as much of that debt as is feasible, and will write-down (absorb) the rest as a cost of doing business.

    All empires fall. The US empire, imo, will fall at approximately the same rate as did the British Empire -- having been constructed in analogous manner, and backed by similar governmental structures, plus collusion, corruption, etc.

    The population problem will make resulting life on the ground much worse, of course.
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  150. Mike P says:
    @manorchurch

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they’re lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.
     
    And you expect me to what? Convert to the most wackadoodle theory of crazy-ass "they was cornspirtors, and they had nookular weapons, and 100 tons of nanothermite (that most scary of all residues, LOL). And... and... and a bazillion peepul in the gummint planted grenades in the buildings, and salted the air-conditioning with Mooselimb vapors", and ... and .... IT'S A CONSPEERACY!!!!

    Mother-fucker, what a pack of moronic stooges you wackadoodles be.

    There is an old trial lawyers’ saying “When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on you side, pound the table.”

    Pretty clear which one you are attempting here. You simply have nothing to work with at all, so you just shout insults. By all means, carry on, make an exhibition of yourself – and don’t forget to show your mum, she will be so proud of you.

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  151. MacNucc11 says:
    @manorchurch

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they’re lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.
     
    And you expect me to what? Convert to the most wackadoodle theory of crazy-ass "they was cornspirtors, and they had nookular weapons, and 100 tons of nanothermite (that most scary of all residues, LOL). And... and... and a bazillion peepul in the gummint planted grenades in the buildings, and salted the air-conditioning with Mooselimb vapors", and ... and .... IT'S A CONSPEERACY!!!!

    Mother-fucker, what a pack of moronic stooges you wackadoodles be.

    I would like to hear your theory of how things occurred. I am sure it is to be pretty wack a doodle and moonbat but go ahead, enlighten all of us.

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    You too --> Ignore List. No hard feelings. I just suffer from a lack of interest in stupid obsessions.
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  152. Mike P says:
    @Sparkon

    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you’ve got to show that they found it.
    [...]
    Following your link, I could locate no such thing.
     
    My link was to the fairly lengthy Don Fox article at Veterans Today, which itself includes links to 37 additional VT articles. You must be a fast reader to have reviewed all that in less than an hour. You also must have missed this photograph:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1401410_572887909412897_1859234833_o.jpg
    M291 resin is required in order to prepare for a full radiological decontamination at ground zero. Dozens of trucks immediately on scene the afternoon of 9/11 with this military grade decontamination material.
    (Original VT photo & caption)

    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?

    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?

    No. I see trucks with stuff on them. What that stuff may be I have no way of knowing.

    The page you linked to has indeed a lot of other links on it, but I hope you don’t expect me to look for scientific evidence on pages with titles such as “the connection between aurora and black triangles.” Also, those plots with ppm values of barium etc. are of undeclared provenience, it isn’t clear where and how and using what samples these determinations were made, whether the isotopes detected were indeed radioactive etc.

    I am willing to entertain the idea that nukes were used, but I need proof. What you have shown so far does not come close to supporting your case.

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    I am willing to entertain the idea that nukes were used, but I need proof.
     
    I've heard it called 'directed energy' weapons or other such terms, but I'm no expert, especially on (secret) Pentagon or black budget weapons programs.

    But I do know a little bit about structural steel, and its properties, and I know that steal beams don't generally vaporize into dust under normal circumstances.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG57LD7lkGw

    more here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyM9y2xo4RQ

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  153. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch

    Just like they lied about the USS Liberty, just like they’re lying about Syrian chemical attacks or the dangerous Palestinian stone throwers being an existential threat to Israel.
     
    And you expect me to what? Convert to the most wackadoodle theory of crazy-ass "they was cornspirtors, and they had nookular weapons, and 100 tons of nanothermite (that most scary of all residues, LOL). And... and... and a bazillion peepul in the gummint planted grenades in the buildings, and salted the air-conditioning with Mooselimb vapors", and ... and .... IT'S A CONSPEERACY!!!!

    Mother-fucker, what a pack of moronic stooges you wackadoodles be.

    And you expect me to what?

    to wake your (self-anesthetized) brain

    I’m not writing this to you, (you’re obviously too obtuse to comprehend anything more nuanced than the msm cud you’re chewing). I’m writing this to any and all people cognizant enough to comprehend that advance knowledge of a building’s implosion, (that could not have been anticipated any more than it can be explained today), is *proof* that someone knew building seven was going to collapse, and the ONLY ones who could have known that, are the ones who ultimately wired the building for its OBVIOUS controlled demolition. Duh!

    Now, as to the dullard I’m replying to..

    If you don’t have an explanation for how the BBC and Fox News knew the building was going to fall (and reported the collapse before it happened), then kindly go suck your thumb in the corner. This space is for thinking adults with two or more synapses to rub together, and realize that we’ve been lied to about virtually everything that happened on 9/11. Just like with the USS Liberty, and so many other false flag attacks.

    if that hurts your ‘mind’ to contemplate, then that’s a good thing! That means that those two synapses are struggling to communicate, and soon they may break free of your self-imposed cognitive languor.

    Hope springs eternal…

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    And you expect me to what?
     
    to wake your (self-anesthetized) brain
     
    Really? The American economy is collapsing. The homeland is being invaded and conquered by enemy aliens, aided and abetted by a fabulously wealthy uberclass that laughs at what working white men achieved, that they seek to destroy. The President has revealed himself as a duplicitous, malicious liar who seeks to hand the American democracy over to Israeli puppeteers, while bankrupting the productive class with gross deficit expenditures on a bloated military that is little more than a weapon for use by Israel.

    And you think I should pore diligently over BULLSHIT about a conspiracy to blow up buildings?

    No thanks. Do return to the intelligent postings for which you were once well-regarded.

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  154. @Mike P
    Each time I post a link this excellent paper, which makes it perfectly clear to anyone with a brain and some basic knowledge in chemistry that indeed the WTC dust contains a large amount of explosives, of the very kind that can explain all the otherwise unaccounted-for strange features of the WTC1 and WTC2 collapse, I find myself with one or more trolls on my heels that want to start a name-calling match.

    Funny how that works. Or maybe not? It would be really easy to write a bot - it would take me about 20 minutes, tops - that scans each page at unz.com periodically, harvests all the links in the comments, and flags those that need an emergency intervention. Then, some paid troll springs into action, not without letting out a curse, because he was disturbed while feeling up the female colleague at the desk next to him (but maybe I am too optimistic about the perks that come with your job - maybe it's just Youtube for you).

    It would be really easy to write a bot – it would take me about 20 minutes, tops – that scans each page at unz.com periodically, harvests all the links in the comments, and flags those that need an emergency intervention. Then, some paid troll springs into action, not without letting out a curse, because he was disturbed while feeling up the female colleague at the desk next to him

    You wackadoodles are good for a daily laugh, but nutjobs post way too much here, and some filters must be put in place. I mean you no harm — most wackies can barely buy shoes by themselves — but your posts have no valid content, no analysis, no inspection. They’re just partisan wackadoodle bullshit. So, you go on the Ignore List.

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  155. Momus says:
    @Mike P
    Each time I post a link this excellent paper, which makes it perfectly clear to anyone with a brain and some basic knowledge in chemistry that indeed the WTC dust contains a large amount of explosives, of the very kind that can explain all the otherwise unaccounted-for strange features of the WTC1 and WTC2 collapse, I find myself with one or more trolls on my heels that want to start a name-calling match.

    Funny how that works. Or maybe not? It would be really easy to write a bot - it would take me about 20 minutes, tops - that scans each page at unz.com periodically, harvests all the links in the comments, and flags those that need an emergency intervention. Then, some paid troll springs into action, not without letting out a curse, because he was disturbed while feeling up the female colleague at the desk next to him (but maybe I am too optimistic about the perks that come with your job - maybe it's just Youtube for you).

    That obscure journal you quote from collapsed 5 years ago.

    I’m sure you could analyse the dust in my engineering workshop and come to some alarming conclusions based on the metal and chemical samples you would find.

    Hell, among it might be some tritium or polonium from an old smoke detector.

    I’m not calling you names; making extraordinary claims requires corresponding evidence, not mundane findings trumped up to look like damning evidence.

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    That obscure journal you quote from collapsed 5 years ago.
     
    But the full content of that specific article is still online. It is a very careful and thorough piece of work.

    I’m sure you could analyse the dust in my engineering workshop ...
     
    If you are indeed an engineer, then you should have sufficient training to judge the content of the paper yourself. Just do it - put up, or shut up.
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  156. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Yes. What can't go on eventually stops. But apparently there's a lot of ruin in a nation.

    Yes. What can’t go on eventually stops. But apparently there’s a lot of ruin in a nation.

    Population pressure is the actual problem. I’m just saying China will deal with it in good time. We owe them a shipload of money; they will go about recovering as much of that debt as is feasible, and will write-down (absorb) the rest as a cost of doing business.

    All empires fall. The US empire, imo, will fall at approximately the same rate as did the British Empire — having been constructed in analogous manner, and backed by similar governmental structures, plus collusion, corruption, etc.

    The population problem will make resulting life on the ground much worse, of course.

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    will fall at approximately the same rate as ... — having been constructed in analogous manner, and backed by similar governmental structures, plus collusion, corruption, etc.
     
    wow, a third synapse just wiggled. Impressive!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GY0yWXGaKs

    http://content.answcdn.com/main/content/img/oxford/Oxford_Body/019852403x.synapse.1.jpg

    that's three now! From resting - to active in just a few minutes of Unz neural de-zombification!
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  157. Momus says:
    @Sparkon

    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you’ve got to show that they found it.
    [...]
    Following your link, I could locate no such thing.
     
    My link was to the fairly lengthy Don Fox article at Veterans Today, which itself includes links to 37 additional VT articles. You must be a fast reader to have reviewed all that in less than an hour. You also must have missed this photograph:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1401410_572887909412897_1859234833_o.jpg
    M291 resin is required in order to prepare for a full radiological decontamination at ground zero. Dozens of trucks immediately on scene the afternoon of 9/11 with this military grade decontamination material.
    (Original VT photo & caption)

    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?

    This picture shows what exactly?

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  158. @MacNucc11
    I would like to hear your theory of how things occurred. I am sure it is to be pretty wack a doodle and moonbat but go ahead, enlighten all of us.

    You too –> Ignore List. No hard feelings. I just suffer from a lack of interest in stupid obsessions.

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    Seems like you are fine with stupid obsessions, insult anyone who questions the wacky conspiracy theory of 9/11, just nothing to offer to back any of it up. I am in no way obsessed. I would say you come off as way more obsessed than I am. I pretty much have my ideas of what happened but just have a problem with people who routinely spout stuff like moonbat but believe the wildest pack of lies out there. Cheers, and please do ignore me in the future and I will do likewise for you.
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  159. Rurik says:
    @Mike P

    Would the arrival of the trucks tend to indicate that they found it?
     
    No. I see trucks with stuff on them. What that stuff may be I have no way of knowing.

    The page you linked to has indeed a lot of other links on it, but I hope you don't expect me to look for scientific evidence on pages with titles such as "the connection between aurora and black triangles." Also, those plots with ppm values of barium etc. are of undeclared provenience, it isn't clear where and how and using what samples these determinations were made, whether the isotopes detected were indeed radioactive etc.

    I am willing to entertain the idea that nukes were used, but I need proof. What you have shown so far does not come close to supporting your case.

    I am willing to entertain the idea that nukes were used, but I need proof.

    I’ve heard it called ‘directed energy’ weapons or other such terms, but I’m no expert, especially on (secret) Pentagon or black budget weapons programs.

    But I do know a little bit about structural steel, and its properties, and I know that steal beams don’t generally vaporize into dust under normal circumstances.

    more here:

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    Interesting. I had not seen this particular feature.

    The instant pulverization of the entire buildings is certainly noteworthy. My understanding was that it was mostly the concrete that was pulverized, while the steel beams were cut into handy pieces but not entirely dissipated.

    I don't think it likely, however, that a regular nuclear explosion was used to dissipate the steel column that was left standing - I still think thermite would be more suitable. Setting off pre-installed thermite cutter charges on the column would certainly heat up the air around it, and the resulting light refraction - like above hot asphalt in summer - might account for the apparent fuzziness, the impression that the column dissolves into a wafting cloud as it crumbles.

    So what I suspect overall is that for some reason the charges on that particular column failed to ignite on the first attempt, together with the remainder of the tower, and that they were then triggered again, causing the delayed collapse.
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  160. @Rurik

    And you expect me to what?
     
    to wake your (self-anesthetized) brain

    I'm not writing this to you, (you're obviously too obtuse to comprehend anything more nuanced than the msm cud you're chewing). I'm writing this to any and all people cognizant enough to comprehend that advance knowledge of a building's implosion, (that could not have been anticipated any more than it can be explained today), is *proof* that someone knew building seven was going to collapse, and the ONLY ones who could have known that, are the ones who ultimately wired the building for its OBVIOUS controlled demolition. Duh!

    Now, as to the dullard I'm replying to..

    If you don't have an explanation for how the BBC and Fox News knew the building was going to fall (and reported the collapse before it happened), then kindly go suck your thumb in the corner. This space is for thinking adults with two or more synapses to rub together, and realize that we've been lied to about virtually everything that happened on 9/11. Just like with the USS Liberty, and so many other false flag attacks.

    if that hurts your 'mind' to contemplate, then that's a good thing! That means that those two synapses are struggling to communicate, and soon they may break free of your self-imposed cognitive languor.

    Hope springs eternal...

    And you expect me to what?

    to wake your (self-anesthetized) brain

    Really? The American economy is collapsing. The homeland is being invaded and conquered by enemy aliens, aided and abetted by a fabulously wealthy uberclass that laughs at what working white men achieved, that they seek to destroy. The President has revealed himself as a duplicitous, malicious liar who seeks to hand the American democracy over to Israeli puppeteers, while bankrupting the productive class with gross deficit expenditures on a bloated military that is little more than a weapon for use by Israel.

    And you think I should pore diligently over BULLSHIT about a conspiracy to blow up buildings?

    No thanks. Do return to the intelligent postings for which you were once well-regarded.

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    Really? The American economy is collapsing. The homeland is being invaded and conquered by enemy aliens, aided and abetted by a fabulously wealthy uberclass that laughs at what working white men achieved, that they seek to destroy. The President has revealed himself as a duplicitous, malicious liar who seeks to hand the American democracy over to Israeli puppeteers, while bankrupting the productive class with gross deficit expenditures on a bloated military that is little more than a weapon for use by Israel.

    And you think I should pore diligently over BULLSHIT about a conspiracy to blow up buildings?
     

    well, please consider..

    virtually every single thing that you lament in your above (and spot-on) screed, are all a direct consequence of the treason and treachery of the exact same people who perpetrated 9/11 (PNAC, CIA, Mossad, CFR, neocons, Bush crime cabal, NSA, FBI, Dick Cheney, Bibi, and assorted zio-scum)

    All of it.

    so...

    if it were possible to hold these criminals to account, and expose their myriad and serial atrocities against humanity, including against the people of the US, against assorted nations in the Middle East- (that Israel and the neocons consider inconvenient), and against those three thousand people that perished horrifically on that epically infamous and era changing day...

    then there might be some tiny shred of hope for altering the trajectory you correctly lament...

    but only if we the people ever grow the nads to hold the bastards who perpetrated the attack on the USS Liberty, just as they perpetrated the attack on 9/11 - to trick US to fight their wars for them - accountable.

    Fourth synapse....

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  161. Mike P says:
    @Momus
    That obscure journal you quote from collapsed 5 years ago.

    I'm sure you could analyse the dust in my engineering workshop and come to some alarming conclusions based on the metal and chemical samples you would find.

    Hell, among it might be some tritium or polonium from an old smoke detector.

    I'm not calling you names; making extraordinary claims requires corresponding evidence, not mundane findings trumped up to look like damning evidence.

    That obscure journal you quote from collapsed 5 years ago.

    But the full content of that specific article is still online. It is a very careful and thorough piece of work.

    I’m sure you could analyse the dust in my engineering workshop …

    If you are indeed an engineer, then you should have sufficient training to judge the content of the paper yourself. Just do it – put up, or shut up.

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  162. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch

    Yes. What can’t go on eventually stops. But apparently there’s a lot of ruin in a nation.
     
    Population pressure is the actual problem. I'm just saying China will deal with it in good time. We owe them a shipload of money; they will go about recovering as much of that debt as is feasible, and will write-down (absorb) the rest as a cost of doing business.

    All empires fall. The US empire, imo, will fall at approximately the same rate as did the British Empire -- having been constructed in analogous manner, and backed by similar governmental structures, plus collusion, corruption, etc.

    The population problem will make resulting life on the ground much worse, of course.

    will fall at approximately the same rate as … — having been constructed in analogous manner, and backed by similar governmental structures, plus collusion, corruption, etc.

    wow, a third synapse just wiggled. Impressive!

    that’s three now! From resting – to active in just a few minutes of Unz neural de-zombification!

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  163. @Rurik

    In the past, America was a competent, decent nation because it was an actual nation with a fairly unified populace. What moron thought trading that away would be a good thing?
     
    Fred Reed

    But only when it comes to Mexicans.

    but he has a solution you see!

    Blend

    Blend with the Mexicans at the molecular-genetic level, until ethnically, culturally, spiritually and in every other way, white Americans are indistinguishable from Mexicans.

    Not only will that create harmony and cohesion, it will also solve America's crime and political and economic problems.

    Keep in mind, it was Europeans who blended with the indigenous Aztecs to create what we call Mexicans today. It's only fair and proper that we encourage them to blend with us now, in a great harmonizing wave of equality / utopian rainbows. This is Fred's relentless scold for all of us 'racist' Deplorables, who resist Fred's exhortations to blend, blend, blend! He calls us 'gas station louts' afraid of our 'precious bodily fluids', if we don't want to blend. True story.

    So at least in that narrow context, Fred is exactly spot on aligned with all Hollywood and Washington, DC Jews, who also demand the 'great blending' - to harmonize and equalize humanity into a brown morass of indistinguishable consumers, cannon fodder, and assorted amusements for the .01%.

    (as I've said before, I have nothing against Mexicans or any other nationality/ethnicity. Unless they're pouring across the borders in a transformational wave of demographic destiny. And that goes for N. America and Europe)

    Rurik ~ the gas station lout

    On a lighter note, I wouldn’t mind “blending” with a Salma Hayek lookalike or better yet if they have anything like those brown tiffanies straight outta enrique’s videos!!

    Perhaps Fred was horribly bitten by one of these lady bugs so much so that he wants all of us to share the “joy” that he has experienced in the welcoming arms (and legs) of these brown honeys!

    But you gotta give me credit where its due. He called out the JQ which was highly unexpected from him. So it did come up as a big surprise to many and a pleasant one at that!

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    and a pleasant one at that!
     
    must agree!

    and, you're absolutely right about many of those guapas

    cultural enrichment moment:

    if you Google guapa, what it will tell you is that guapa means beautiful or pretty or something, but that's not what hombres mean when they call a girl a guapa. Pronounced 'wapa'

    what they mean is an alpha bitch. She might be pretty, or not. But if she's a guapa, then she's the boss bitch in the room.

    and contrary to the Internet, guapo does not mean 'handsome' man.

    rather it usually means a dude who struts around like a rooster, acting like he's the shit, but whose gestures are excessively macho to make up for his low status.

    there, a free cultural enrichment moment here on Unz
    , @RadicalCenter
    He can return to the USA and stop shilling like a bitch for everything Mexican, then we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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  164. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch


    And you expect me to what?
     
    to wake your (self-anesthetized) brain
     
    Really? The American economy is collapsing. The homeland is being invaded and conquered by enemy aliens, aided and abetted by a fabulously wealthy uberclass that laughs at what working white men achieved, that they seek to destroy. The President has revealed himself as a duplicitous, malicious liar who seeks to hand the American democracy over to Israeli puppeteers, while bankrupting the productive class with gross deficit expenditures on a bloated military that is little more than a weapon for use by Israel.

    And you think I should pore diligently over BULLSHIT about a conspiracy to blow up buildings?

    No thanks. Do return to the intelligent postings for which you were once well-regarded.

    Really? The American economy is collapsing. The homeland is being invaded and conquered by enemy aliens, aided and abetted by a fabulously wealthy uberclass that laughs at what working white men achieved, that they seek to destroy. The President has revealed himself as a duplicitous, malicious liar who seeks to hand the American democracy over to Israeli puppeteers, while bankrupting the productive class with gross deficit expenditures on a bloated military that is little more than a weapon for use by Israel.

    And you think I should pore diligently over BULLSHIT about a conspiracy to blow up buildings?

    well, please consider..

    virtually every single thing that you lament in your above (and spot-on) screed, are all a direct consequence of the treason and treachery of the exact same people who perpetrated 9/11 (PNAC, CIA, Mossad, CFR, neocons, Bush crime cabal, NSA, FBI, Dick Cheney, Bibi, and assorted zio-scum)

    All of it.

    so…

    if it were possible to hold these criminals to account, and expose their myriad and serial atrocities against humanity, including against the people of the US, against assorted nations in the Middle East- (that Israel and the neocons consider inconvenient), and against those three thousand people that perished horrifically on that epically infamous and era changing day…

    then there might be some tiny shred of hope for altering the trajectory you correctly lament…

    but only if we the people ever grow the nads to hold the bastards who perpetrated the attack on the USS Liberty, just as they perpetrated the attack on 9/11 – to trick US to fight their wars for them – accountable.

    Fourth synapse….

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    Conspiracy theories that have achieved nothing in 17 years are worthless bullshit.
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  165. MacNucc11 says:
    @manorchurch
    You too --> Ignore List. No hard feelings. I just suffer from a lack of interest in stupid obsessions.

    Seems like you are fine with stupid obsessions, insult anyone who questions the wacky conspiracy theory of 9/11, just nothing to offer to back any of it up. I am in no way obsessed. I would say you come off as way more obsessed than I am. I pretty much have my ideas of what happened but just have a problem with people who routinely spout stuff like moonbat but believe the wildest pack of lies out there. Cheers, and please do ignore me in the future and I will do likewise for you.

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  166. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    I am willing to entertain the idea that nukes were used, but I need proof.
     
    I've heard it called 'directed energy' weapons or other such terms, but I'm no expert, especially on (secret) Pentagon or black budget weapons programs.

    But I do know a little bit about structural steel, and its properties, and I know that steal beams don't generally vaporize into dust under normal circumstances.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG57LD7lkGw

    more here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyM9y2xo4RQ

    Interesting. I had not seen this particular feature.

    The instant pulverization of the entire buildings is certainly noteworthy. My understanding was that it was mostly the concrete that was pulverized, while the steel beams were cut into handy pieces but not entirely dissipated.

    I don’t think it likely, however, that a regular nuclear explosion was used to dissipate the steel column that was left standing – I still think thermite would be more suitable. Setting off pre-installed thermite cutter charges on the column would certainly heat up the air around it, and the resulting light refraction – like above hot asphalt in summer – might account for the apparent fuzziness, the impression that the column dissolves into a wafting cloud as it crumbles.

    So what I suspect overall is that for some reason the charges on that particular column failed to ignite on the first attempt, together with the remainder of the tower, and that they were then triggered again, causing the delayed collapse.

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    understanding was that it was mostly the concrete that was pulverized, while the steel beams were cut into handy pieces but not entirely dissipated.
     
    don't know for sure.

    the transformation of what it seems like was everything, (glass, steel, concrete, office equipment and furniture, and everything else) into fine powder, seems unlikely to happen to me in normal circumstances, but I confess I don't have all the answers to how this was all accomplished.

    I've seen some interesting videos from the fires in California that raged so devastatingly a few months ago, but much of the damage doesn't appear to be from forest fires.

    and some people who're aware of these weapons, say some of it was d0ne by 'directed energy' weapons

    http://www.sonomamag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/JB1010_AERIAL_018_844832.jpg

    http://tapnewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/cdcea6765dabeae102616e5c5b506be7-1.jpg

    here's a video where at 6:30 they show what it looked like the next day, and I confess there's something odd about forest fires that leave plastic garbage bins but vaporize houses and their contents.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeZN7Z7hRfI
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  167. renfro says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Just a nit pick Fred so you don't make people think "He didn't know A so I wonder if he makes sense on B". Israel is not a country without anything (i.e. natural resources) that anyone needs or wants. Its Tamar and Leviathan offshore gas fields are huge and going to provide exports as well as all Israel needs domestically.

    Its Tamar and Leviathan offshore gas fields are huge and going to provide exports as well as all Israel needs domestically.

    Well I see you have fallen for the hype. Israel recently let bids for their newly discovered oil fields……getting only two bids from small producers (one from India, the other I forget ) is unheard of …meaning confidence in how much oil is there is not strong…hence no big league companies were interested.

    Israel only produces o.395 BBL/D/1K is of Feb 2018 while it consumes 300,000 barrels of oil daily.
    So its gotta find 261,000 more barrels a day to even meet domestic consumption….much less be an exporter of oil.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/crude-oil-production

    What Israel is trying to get is the Golan oil fields, the offshore oil fields Lebanon currently is drilling and the Syria oil fields and the big prize–Iran’s oil fields.

    Israel and the Jews always do better at stealing than they do producing any thing.

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    Interesting, thanks. If I were seriously interested in the subject (and perhaps I should have been once because an oil company I invest in dropped its interest in one of those fields) I would follow it up. As it is I shall bear it in mind.
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  168. MacNucc11 says:

    I think the troll farm these type come from are told to parse threads with funny misspelled words to point out the ignorance of others. I wonder are they no longer using tin foil hat in their glossary of terms to toss out there? I think it must depend on the persona they are trying to project. Wack a doodle is for when you want to come off as older, jaded, and just fed up with all those crazy ideas out there. So fed up but just can’t resist seeking them out. I think this guys thing is try and come off mostly as one of us by agreeing on everything else. Pretty clever, pretty subtle…. but I see right through it. You don’t come with insults and name calling because you are just so dispassionately uninterested and above it all.

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  169. Rurik says:
    @HogHappenin
    On a lighter note, I wouldn't mind "blending" with a Salma Hayek lookalike or better yet if they have anything like those brown tiffanies straight outta enrique's videos!!

    Perhaps Fred was horribly bitten by one of these lady bugs so much so that he wants all of us to share the "joy" that he has experienced in the welcoming arms (and legs) of these brown honeys!

    But you gotta give me credit where its due. He called out the JQ which was highly unexpected from him. So it did come up as a big surprise to many and a pleasant one at that!

    and a pleasant one at that!

    must agree!

    and, you’re absolutely right about many of those guapas

    cultural enrichment moment:

    if you Google guapa, what it will tell you is that guapa means beautiful or pretty or something, but that’s not what hombres mean when they call a girl a guapa. Pronounced ‘wapa’

    what they mean is an alpha bitch. She might be pretty, or not. But if she’s a guapa, then she’s the boss bitch in the room.

    and contrary to the Internet, guapo does not mean ‘handsome’ man.

    rather it usually means a dude who struts around like a rooster, acting like he’s the shit, but whose gestures are excessively macho to make up for his low status.

    there, a free cultural enrichment moment here on Unz

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    Guapo does mean a handsome man, and guapa means a pretty woman, in the Philippines. Not a Spanish-speaking country now or even in the past, but there are 100-plus million people there who use guapo and guapa in the way indicated.
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  170. @Rurik

    Really? The American economy is collapsing. The homeland is being invaded and conquered by enemy aliens, aided and abetted by a fabulously wealthy uberclass that laughs at what working white men achieved, that they seek to destroy. The President has revealed himself as a duplicitous, malicious liar who seeks to hand the American democracy over to Israeli puppeteers, while bankrupting the productive class with gross deficit expenditures on a bloated military that is little more than a weapon for use by Israel.

    And you think I should pore diligently over BULLSHIT about a conspiracy to blow up buildings?
     

    well, please consider..

    virtually every single thing that you lament in your above (and spot-on) screed, are all a direct consequence of the treason and treachery of the exact same people who perpetrated 9/11 (PNAC, CIA, Mossad, CFR, neocons, Bush crime cabal, NSA, FBI, Dick Cheney, Bibi, and assorted zio-scum)

    All of it.

    so...

    if it were possible to hold these criminals to account, and expose their myriad and serial atrocities against humanity, including against the people of the US, against assorted nations in the Middle East- (that Israel and the neocons consider inconvenient), and against those three thousand people that perished horrifically on that epically infamous and era changing day...

    then there might be some tiny shred of hope for altering the trajectory you correctly lament...

    but only if we the people ever grow the nads to hold the bastards who perpetrated the attack on the USS Liberty, just as they perpetrated the attack on 9/11 - to trick US to fight their wars for them - accountable.

    Fourth synapse....

    Conspiracy theories that have achieved nothing in 17 years are worthless bullshit.

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    Conspiracy theories that have achieved nothing in 17 years are worthless bullshit.
     
    would you tell that to the survivors and families of the cowardly and murderous attack on the USS Liberty?

    would you tell them it's time to put their blankeys away, and stop blubbering about an event that is ancient history?

    would you exonerate the Israelis responsible for that singular act of treachery, because some people dismiss it as a 'conspiracy', and because it was so long ago?
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  171. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch
    Conspiracy theories that have achieved nothing in 17 years are worthless bullshit.

    Conspiracy theories that have achieved nothing in 17 years are worthless bullshit.

    would you tell that to the survivors and families of the cowardly and murderous attack on the USS Liberty?

    would you tell them it’s time to put their blankeys away, and stop blubbering about an event that is ancient history?

    would you exonerate the Israelis responsible for that singular act of treachery, because some people dismiss it as a ‘conspiracy’, and because it was so long ago?

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    would you tell that to the survivors and families of the cowardly and murderous attack on the USS Liberty?
     
    Stop the bullshit. There's no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available, verified by survivors. So don't BULLSHIT, dude. Maybe a few Americans didn't have the facts, but full info was available from the international press.

    The 9/11 take-down of the buildings is fact. What you and your crew harangue about -- and I mean fucking 24/7 BULLSHIT -- is nonsense. Pure, undiluted nonsense. And for 17 years it's been BULLSHIT piled higher and deeper.
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  172. @Rurik

    Conspiracy theories that have achieved nothing in 17 years are worthless bullshit.
     
    would you tell that to the survivors and families of the cowardly and murderous attack on the USS Liberty?

    would you tell them it's time to put their blankeys away, and stop blubbering about an event that is ancient history?

    would you exonerate the Israelis responsible for that singular act of treachery, because some people dismiss it as a 'conspiracy', and because it was so long ago?

    would you tell that to the survivors and families of the cowardly and murderous attack on the USS Liberty?

    Stop the bullshit. There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available, verified by survivors. So don’t BULLSHIT, dude. Maybe a few Americans didn’t have the facts, but full info was available from the international press.

    The 9/11 take-down of the buildings is fact. What you and your crew harangue about — and I mean fucking 24/7 BULLSHIT — is nonsense. Pure, undiluted nonsense. And for 17 years it’s been BULLSHIT piled higher and deeper.

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    There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available, verified by survivors. So don’t BULLSHIT, dude.
     
    umm..

    what planet are you living on? Eh?

    to this day they STILL lie about it.

    the crew were ordered under punishment of court martial not to talk about it.

    The official position today is that it was a case of mistaken identity.

    the media and the government at the highest levels all covered it all up (just like 9/11).

    We all know this dude. Everyone here at Unz knows about the Liberty, and the cover up, and the lies, and how twice jets were recalled (by pres. Johnson and secretary McNamara) that had been scrambled to assist the Liberty.

    and to this day they lie about it. There's never been an official inquiry into the war criminals who machine gunned the life boats, or the murderous, treacherous Israeli scum who conceived and ordered the attack.

    you're living in a alternative universe when you say things like "full info was available from the international press".

    Is that why they got away with it clean, because all the world's media were reporting on this historic act of war, against an ally?

    do you realize how mendacious you look right now?

    saying

    There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available,
     
    that's utter horseshit

    verifiable, unequivocal, horse shit.

    Even captain William McGonagle's medal of honor was awarded in a secret ceremony. So as not to embarrass our noble little ally.

    from Wiki

    Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

    IOW, they lied, and they're still lying about it.

    The U.S. Naval Court of Inquiry record contains testimony by fourteen Liberty crew members and five subject matter experts; exhibits of attack damage photographs, various messages and memoranda; and findings of fact. The court concluded that the testimony record revealed "a shallow investigation, plagued by myriad disagreements between the captain and his crew".[58] As to culpability, the court said "It was not the responsibility of the court to rule on the culpability of the attackers, and no evidence was heard from the attacking nation", the court concluded that "available evidence combines to indicate ... (that the attack was) a case of mistaken identity."
     
    your credibility here is on par with the wiz right about now
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  173. Rurik says:
    @Mike P
    Interesting. I had not seen this particular feature.

    The instant pulverization of the entire buildings is certainly noteworthy. My understanding was that it was mostly the concrete that was pulverized, while the steel beams were cut into handy pieces but not entirely dissipated.

    I don't think it likely, however, that a regular nuclear explosion was used to dissipate the steel column that was left standing - I still think thermite would be more suitable. Setting off pre-installed thermite cutter charges on the column would certainly heat up the air around it, and the resulting light refraction - like above hot asphalt in summer - might account for the apparent fuzziness, the impression that the column dissolves into a wafting cloud as it crumbles.

    So what I suspect overall is that for some reason the charges on that particular column failed to ignite on the first attempt, together with the remainder of the tower, and that they were then triggered again, causing the delayed collapse.

    understanding was that it was mostly the concrete that was pulverized, while the steel beams were cut into handy pieces but not entirely dissipated.

    don’t know for sure.

    the transformation of what it seems like was everything, (glass, steel, concrete, office equipment and furniture, and everything else) into fine powder, seems unlikely to happen to me in normal circumstances, but I confess I don’t have all the answers to how this was all accomplished.

    I’ve seen some interesting videos from the fires in California that raged so devastatingly a few months ago, but much of the damage doesn’t appear to be from forest fires.

    and some people who’re aware of these weapons, say some of it was d0ne by ‘directed energy’ weapons

    here’s a video where at 6:30 they show what it looked like the next day, and I confess there’s something odd about forest fires that leave plastic garbage bins but vaporize houses and their contents.

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  174. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch

    would you tell that to the survivors and families of the cowardly and murderous attack on the USS Liberty?
     
    Stop the bullshit. There's no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available, verified by survivors. So don't BULLSHIT, dude. Maybe a few Americans didn't have the facts, but full info was available from the international press.

    The 9/11 take-down of the buildings is fact. What you and your crew harangue about -- and I mean fucking 24/7 BULLSHIT -- is nonsense. Pure, undiluted nonsense. And for 17 years it's been BULLSHIT piled higher and deeper.

    There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available, verified by survivors. So don’t BULLSHIT, dude.

    umm..

    what planet are you living on? Eh?

    to this day they STILL lie about it.

    the crew were ordered under punishment of court martial not to talk about it.

    The official position today is that it was a case of mistaken identity.

    the media and the government at the highest levels all covered it all up (just like 9/11).

    We all know this dude. Everyone here at Unz knows about the Liberty, and the cover up, and the lies, and how twice jets were recalled (by pres. Johnson and secretary McNamara) that had been scrambled to assist the Liberty.

    and to this day they lie about it. There’s never been an official inquiry into the war criminals who machine gunned the life boats, or the murderous, treacherous Israeli scum who conceived and ordered the attack.

    you’re living in a alternative universe when you say things like “full info was available from the international press”.

    Is that why they got away with it clean, because all the world’s media were reporting on this historic act of war, against an ally?

    do you realize how mendacious you look right now?

    saying

    There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available,

    that’s utter horseshit

    verifiable, unequivocal, horse shit.

    Even captain William McGonagle’s medal of honor was awarded in a secret ceremony. So as not to embarrass our noble little ally.

    from Wiki

    Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship’s identity

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

    IOW, they lied, and they’re still lying about it.

    The U.S. Naval Court of Inquiry record contains testimony by fourteen Liberty crew members and five subject matter experts; exhibits of attack damage photographs, various messages and memoranda; and findings of fact. The court concluded that the testimony record revealed “a shallow investigation, plagued by myriad disagreements between the captain and his crew”.[58] As to culpability, the court said “It was not the responsibility of the court to rule on the culpability of the attackers, and no evidence was heard from the attacking nation”, the court concluded that “available evidence combines to indicate … (that the attack was) a case of mistaken identity.”

    your credibility here is on par with the wiz right about now

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    Believe as you like. I was sitting in a bar in Sao Paulo, Brazil, when news coverage of the attack on the Liberty began. Now, it is quite possible (and reasonable to assume) that the US government lied to the US people regarding the full story -- to the extent that the US government could dissemble, tell lies, etc. But, the rest of the world got the real story. When I enlisted in the US Navy in March of 1968, the true story was known throughout naval personnel -- with the possible exception of a few officers and Waves, of course.

    With respect to 9/11, the huge body of mythos being BULLSHITTED on this and other sites is the product of NUTJOBS, not the government. There's so many crazy-ass stories, even Wikipedia can't keep track of the new batch of invented HORSESHIT put out on a daily basis by Wackadoodle Central.
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  175. Mike P says:

    the transformation of what it seems like was everything, (glass, steel, concrete, office equipment and furniture, and everything else) into fine powder, seems unlikely to happen to me in normal circumstances

    agree, very unusual

    and some people who’re aware of these weapons, say some of it was d0ne by ‘directed energy’ weapons

    well, I have not seen anything more specific than this “directed energy weapon” phrase, and unless somebody can tell how it works, and where I can buy one, I can’t take it seriously.

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    unless somebody can tell how it works, and where I can buy one, I can’t take it seriously.

    I don’t think you can buy one at your local Bass Pro or Outdoor World Sporting Goods outlet. Like I said;

    (secret) Pentagon or black budget weapons programs.

    there are lots and lots of toys those boyz have that we’re not privy to. Yet.

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  177. @Rurik

    There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available, verified by survivors. So don’t BULLSHIT, dude.
     
    umm..

    what planet are you living on? Eh?

    to this day they STILL lie about it.

    the crew were ordered under punishment of court martial not to talk about it.

    The official position today is that it was a case of mistaken identity.

    the media and the government at the highest levels all covered it all up (just like 9/11).

    We all know this dude. Everyone here at Unz knows about the Liberty, and the cover up, and the lies, and how twice jets were recalled (by pres. Johnson and secretary McNamara) that had been scrambled to assist the Liberty.

    and to this day they lie about it. There's never been an official inquiry into the war criminals who machine gunned the life boats, or the murderous, treacherous Israeli scum who conceived and ordered the attack.

    you're living in a alternative universe when you say things like "full info was available from the international press".

    Is that why they got away with it clean, because all the world's media were reporting on this historic act of war, against an ally?

    do you realize how mendacious you look right now?

    saying

    There’s no conspiracies going on about what happened to the Liberty. Accurate information was immediately available,
     
    that's utter horseshit

    verifiable, unequivocal, horse shit.

    Even captain William McGonagle's medal of honor was awarded in a secret ceremony. So as not to embarrass our noble little ally.

    from Wiki

    Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

    IOW, they lied, and they're still lying about it.

    The U.S. Naval Court of Inquiry record contains testimony by fourteen Liberty crew members and five subject matter experts; exhibits of attack damage photographs, various messages and memoranda; and findings of fact. The court concluded that the testimony record revealed "a shallow investigation, plagued by myriad disagreements between the captain and his crew".[58] As to culpability, the court said "It was not the responsibility of the court to rule on the culpability of the attackers, and no evidence was heard from the attacking nation", the court concluded that "available evidence combines to indicate ... (that the attack was) a case of mistaken identity."
     
    your credibility here is on par with the wiz right about now

    Believe as you like. I was sitting in a bar in Sao Paulo, Brazil, when news coverage of the attack on the Liberty began. Now, it is quite possible (and reasonable to assume) that the US government lied to the US people regarding the full story — to the extent that the US government could dissemble, tell lies, etc. But, the rest of the world got the real story. When I enlisted in the US Navy in March of 1968, the true story was known throughout naval personnel — with the possible exception of a few officers and Waves, of course.

    With respect to 9/11, the huge body of mythos being BULLSHITTED on this and other sites is the product of NUTJOBS, not the government. There’s so many crazy-ass stories, even Wikipedia can’t keep track of the new batch of invented HORSESHIT put out on a daily basis by Wackadoodle Central.

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    But, the rest of the world got the real story.
     
    if this is true, then why didn't Egypt or anyone else make a stink about it at the UN, or anywhere.

    Why must we all take your anecdotal personal intuition that "the rest of the world got the real story". Because you just wrote that? Do you have any shred of evidence that this is true? A headle from a UK newspaper that reads Israel attacks US vessel in international waters! Murders 34 sailors, machine guns life rafts, tried to sink ship with all hands.

    Where are these reports that informed the whole world so that " the rest of the world got the real story"?

    as to 9/11

    to this day no one can explain how building seven plopped into its basement, as if all of it's structural steel vaporized simultaneously.

    There are myriad videos of this event, and thousands of experts have put their careers on the line saying the official story is bullshit.

    here's a video of a Dutch controlled demolition expert Danny Jowenko [RIP] being shown video of building seven imploding

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI05q3Qfzvo

    So it's not just my layperson's eyes that can see it was obviously a controlled demolition, but you have an expert who's watching it, and say "absolutely", "This is controlled demolition."

    "A team of experts did this."

    "This is professional work, without any doubt"

    but then he didn't have the benefit of manorchurch to call him a wackadoodle nutjob, so I suppose he should be forgiven.

    and there's actually an avalanche of evidence they lied about it all.

    like for instance how they didn't even want to have any kind of investigation at all. We were all supposed to take their word, based on the media and FBI reports.

    who could possible doubt the media, or the F. B. I. !! for that matter.

    would they lie?

    They wanted a new Pearl Harbor like event, to mobilize Americans to go to war against seven countries Israel had slated for destruction.

    So men like Pat Tillman would forgo a multi-million dollar pro-football career and go kill the bastards that did that to our beloved America!

    Only he too figured out is was a crock of bullshit, so they put three bullets in his brain at close range, and then lied about it, of course.

    But perhaps he really was killed in an heroic firefight with the Taliban, and Rurik is just making shit up as he goes, eh?

    who is Dov Zakheim?

    who is Philip Zelikow?
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  178. @chris

    But while “the Jews” didn’t sink the Iran deal, a comparatively small number of Israel-firsters did.
     
    Fair enough, Fred; but then, where are the voices of the rest of them ? You're not suggesting that "comparatively small number" of them are controlling the whole discussion, are you?

    Unless we hear a clear protest from 'the rest of them' in the near future, I would rather posit that, in spite of their recorded support for the deal, they will tacitly acquiesce to Trump's actions to help build the 'greater Israel.'

    Liberal Jews are just relatively quiet enablers. They complain mildly about the “uncomfortable and unhelpful” nature of the illiberal acts of Israel, but that’s all. They virtue signal to stroke themselves, and to attempt to look “compassionate”. But never more than that. When all is said and done, no matter the criminality of the Zionist project, they still support Israel. They deal in excuses, never justice. It’s the tribal thing. To speak and act against Israel’s crimes, is to betray the tribe, to renounce their Jewish identity. They can’t do it. That’s the old way. The new way, with the truth available courtesy of the internet, makes it easier for the younger Jews to stand for justice.

    I’m an American and a jew, and an old trouble-making anarchist type jew. I would like to see Israelis turn the shjt around, admit the mistake/crimes of the past, and work to set things right, but I’m absolutely convinced there is no way that’s gonna happen. My fellow Jews have been fuckjng over people for five thousand years. The leopard and his spots. And it always ends badly for them. And it will be the same this time. They think there nukes will save them. Just the opposite. When the Russians see the Israelis developing nuke tech that will allow them to penetrate Russian defenses, they will be forced to preemptively defang Israel.

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    Sadly, more than defanging will be necessary.

    If Russia or anyone else is going to risk the wrath of the USA by attacking Israel, they may as well obliterate the entirety of Israel and be done with it. No letting them get back up for more lying, manipulation, cruelty, and of course revenge against the attacker.

    , @chris
    Very well put, Jeff, thanks.

    Yeah, that's what I was driving at with my comment also, and thanks for your confirmation.

    Fred is hiding behind the survey that says that most American Jews support the "Iran Deal," but I dispute that point on the basis that Jews, not lacking for media platforms to express their discontent, are remarkably silent on the issue. So much so that their silence may be taken to speak for itself.

    I also completely agree with the point you're making, that the escalation with Iran and Syria and also with Russia, result is a much more dangerous world (deadly, really for all Middle Easterners) made more so every day for the rest of us. I repeat my point from an earlier post: even from Israel's perspective, the provocation of endless conflict cannot be anything like a long-term winning strategy.

    And regarding your fear of Israel being a target, yeah, I've had that speculation as well; it's a logical consequence of the dangerous, provocative role they're playing.

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  179. Rurik says:
    @manorchurch
    Believe as you like. I was sitting in a bar in Sao Paulo, Brazil, when news coverage of the attack on the Liberty began. Now, it is quite possible (and reasonable to assume) that the US government lied to the US people regarding the full story -- to the extent that the US government could dissemble, tell lies, etc. But, the rest of the world got the real story. When I enlisted in the US Navy in March of 1968, the true story was known throughout naval personnel -- with the possible exception of a few officers and Waves, of course.

    With respect to 9/11, the huge body of mythos being BULLSHITTED on this and other sites is the product of NUTJOBS, not the government. There's so many crazy-ass stories, even Wikipedia can't keep track of the new batch of invented HORSESHIT put out on a daily basis by Wackadoodle Central.

    But, the rest of the world got the real story.

    if this is true, then why didn’t Egypt or anyone else make a stink about it at the UN, or anywhere.

    Why must we all take your anecdotal personal intuition that “the rest of the world got the real story”. Because you just wrote that? Do you have any shred of evidence that this is true? A headle from a UK newspaper that reads Israel attacks US vessel in international waters! Murders 34 sailors, machine guns life rafts, tried to sink ship with all hands.

    Where are these reports that informed the whole world so that ” the rest of the world got the real story”?

    as to 9/11

    to this day no one can explain how building seven plopped into its basement, as if all of it’s structural steel vaporized simultaneously.

    There are myriad videos of this event, and thousands of experts have put their careers on the line saying the official story is bullshit.

    here’s a video of a Dutch controlled demolition expert Danny Jowenko [RIP] being shown video of building seven imploding

    So it’s not just my layperson’s eyes that can see it was obviously a controlled demolition, but you have an expert who’s watching it, and say “absolutely”, “This is controlled demolition.”

    “A team of experts did this.”

    “This is professional work, without any doubt”

    but then he didn’t have the benefit of manorchurch to call him a wackadoodle nutjob, so I suppose he should be forgiven.

    and there’s actually an avalanche of evidence they lied about it all.

    like for instance how they didn’t even want to have any kind of investigation at all. We were all supposed to take their word, based on the media and FBI reports.

    who could possible doubt the media, or the F. B. I. !! for that matter.

    would they lie?

    They wanted a new Pearl Harbor like event, to mobilize Americans to go to war against seven countries Israel had slated for destruction.

    So men like Pat Tillman would forgo a multi-million dollar pro-football career and go kill the bastards that did that to our beloved America!

    Only he too figured out is was a crock of bullshit, so they put three bullets in his brain at close range, and then lied about it, of course.

    But perhaps he really was killed in an heroic firefight with the Taliban, and Rurik is just making shit up as he goes, eh?

    who is Dov Zakheim?

    who is Philip Zelikow?

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    like for instance how they didn’t even want to have any kind of investigation at all.
     
    I just read what I wrote there, and remembered when exactly the moment was that I knew they were bullshitting us.

    It was when the Jersey Girls (widows of 9/11) demanded an investigation

    http://911blogger.com/archive/files/images/jerseygirls.jpg

    and the Bush regime balked and balked until finally pushed into a corner, and then came up with a man to head the investigation!

    a one Henry Kissinger!

    that was the moment I knew they were lying
    , @manorchurch
    Pish. Invention just goes on and on and on. Every other day there's another demolition expert double-talking about the fourfold root of the principle of burning nanothermite, or how objects never fall in gravity like this-or-that fell.

    I guess some of you tools are making money? Dunno. But you for sure have accomplished a big, fat zero for 17 years of howling madness.

    Yes, I know Israel and the CIA were behind it. Duh. But, shit, you'd think they'd deployed anti-gravity and an FTL drive, to hear you wackadoodles talk. None of you get basic sensible stuff like the principle of parsimony, sufficiency, etc.

    Stark, raving, howling mad.
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  180. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    But, the rest of the world got the real story.
     
    if this is true, then why didn't Egypt or anyone else make a stink about it at the UN, or anywhere.

    Why must we all take your anecdotal personal intuition that "the rest of the world got the real story". Because you just wrote that? Do you have any shred of evidence that this is true? A headle from a UK newspaper that reads Israel attacks US vessel in international waters! Murders 34 sailors, machine guns life rafts, tried to sink ship with all hands.

    Where are these reports that informed the whole world so that " the rest of the world got the real story"?

    as to 9/11

    to this day no one can explain how building seven plopped into its basement, as if all of it's structural steel vaporized simultaneously.

    There are myriad videos of this event, and thousands of experts have put their careers on the line saying the official story is bullshit.

    here's a video of a Dutch controlled demolition expert Danny Jowenko [RIP] being shown video of building seven imploding

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI05q3Qfzvo

    So it's not just my layperson's eyes that can see it was obviously a controlled demolition, but you have an expert who's watching it, and say "absolutely", "This is controlled demolition."

    "A team of experts did this."

    "This is professional work, without any doubt"

    but then he didn't have the benefit of manorchurch to call him a wackadoodle nutjob, so I suppose he should be forgiven.

    and there's actually an avalanche of evidence they lied about it all.

    like for instance how they didn't even want to have any kind of investigation at all. We were all supposed to take their word, based on the media and FBI reports.

    who could possible doubt the media, or the F. B. I. !! for that matter.

    would they lie?

    They wanted a new Pearl Harbor like event, to mobilize Americans to go to war against seven countries Israel had slated for destruction.

    So men like Pat Tillman would forgo a multi-million dollar pro-football career and go kill the bastards that did that to our beloved America!

    Only he too figured out is was a crock of bullshit, so they put three bullets in his brain at close range, and then lied about it, of course.

    But perhaps he really was killed in an heroic firefight with the Taliban, and Rurik is just making shit up as he goes, eh?

    who is Dov Zakheim?

    who is Philip Zelikow?

    like for instance how they didn’t even want to have any kind of investigation at all.

    I just read what I wrote there, and remembered when exactly the moment was that I knew they were bullshitting us.

    It was when the Jersey Girls (widows of 9/11) demanded an investigation

    and the Bush regime balked and balked until finally pushed into a corner, and then came up with a man to head the investigation!

    a one Henry Kissinger!

    that was the moment I knew they were lying

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    Sort of like picking Allen Dulles to head the Warren Commission.
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  181. @Rurik

    But, the rest of the world got the real story.
     
    if this is true, then why didn't Egypt or anyone else make a stink about it at the UN, or anywhere.

    Why must we all take your anecdotal personal intuition that "the rest of the world got the real story". Because you just wrote that? Do you have any shred of evidence that this is true? A headle from a UK newspaper that reads Israel attacks US vessel in international waters! Murders 34 sailors, machine guns life rafts, tried to sink ship with all hands.

    Where are these reports that informed the whole world so that " the rest of the world got the real story"?

    as to 9/11

    to this day no one can explain how building seven plopped into its basement, as if all of it's structural steel vaporized simultaneously.

    There are myriad videos of this event, and thousands of experts have put their careers on the line saying the official story is bullshit.

    here's a video of a Dutch controlled demolition expert Danny Jowenko [RIP] being shown video of building seven imploding

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI05q3Qfzvo

    So it's not just my layperson's eyes that can see it was obviously a controlled demolition, but you have an expert who's watching it, and say "absolutely", "This is controlled demolition."

    "A team of experts did this."

    "This is professional work, without any doubt"

    but then he didn't have the benefit of manorchurch to call him a wackadoodle nutjob, so I suppose he should be forgiven.

    and there's actually an avalanche of evidence they lied about it all.

    like for instance how they didn't even want to have any kind of investigation at all. We were all supposed to take their word, based on the media and FBI reports.

    who could possible doubt the media, or the F. B. I. !! for that matter.

    would they lie?

    They wanted a new Pearl Harbor like event, to mobilize Americans to go to war against seven countries Israel had slated for destruction.

    So men like Pat Tillman would forgo a multi-million dollar pro-football career and go kill the bastards that did that to our beloved America!

    Only he too figured out is was a crock of bullshit, so they put three bullets in his brain at close range, and then lied about it, of course.

    But perhaps he really was killed in an heroic firefight with the Taliban, and Rurik is just making shit up as he goes, eh?

    who is Dov Zakheim?

    who is Philip Zelikow?

    Pish. Invention just goes on and on and on. Every other day there’s another demolition expert double-talking about the fourfold root of the principle of burning nanothermite, or how objects never fall in gravity like this-or-that fell.

    I guess some of you tools are making money? Dunno. But you for sure have accomplished a big, fat zero for 17 years of howling madness.

    Yes, I know Israel and the CIA were behind it. Duh. But, shit, you’d think they’d deployed anti-gravity and an FTL drive, to hear you wackadoodles talk. None of you get basic sensible stuff like the principle of parsimony, sufficiency, etc.

    Stark, raving, howling mad.

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  182. @Ron T
    Jews in the US are over-represented in the Senate, the House, Media, Hollywood, banking, campaign contributions, state department, judiciary branch, supreme court and all branches of government. You know where Jews are under-represented to non-existent? In the US armed forces. Go any day to Brooklyn and you're much more likely to run into a Jew who served in the IDF than one who served in the goyim army. That explains why they have no qualms about sending thousands of rural whites and poor blacks to die in wars for the benefit of Israel.

    You’re right.

    Same applies to the part of New Jersey where I grew up.

    A childhood friend of mine went on to volunteer into the IDF. On the one occasion when I saw him as an adult, when he was back in the States, he mentioned what he had been doing and I asked, with feigned innocence, “Oh, was the US military full?” He laughed, and I then indicated that I was seriously curious why he had joined a foreign military instead of our country’s military. I also asked whether he would side with us or Israel if there were a war between us (he never did give a straight answer).

    He didn’t laugh after that, and I’m glad that the conversation became uncomfortable for him, the traitorous ass.

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    Serving in a foreign military should be grounds for loss of U S citizenship. Oh, I forgot, Israel is our "friend", (yeah,right)...
    AIPAC--not registered as an agent of a foreign government.
    IAEA non compliance--Israel still receives "foreign aid" despite non compliance with Symington law prohibiting foreign aid for any country not complying with international nuclear agreements.
    What's wrong with this picture?
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  183. @HogHappenin
    These are the gems which are lost on our people. Who can blame them. Quite a lot of them are now living paycheck to paycheck, while the rest are jacking themselves off to oblivion.

    Bread, sex and circuses is what defines ZUS at home while abroad it stands for misery, death and dispair.

    After the ziocons have used the dumb goyim for their goals in the ME, they will definitely pull the plug after making sure their brethren are safely ensconed in Argentina or Shanghai!! Things will then start getting "interesting" with so many interest groups and so little left, it will be a real dog eat dog scenario between the dotheads, the chinese, the mestizos and whatever is left of whitey

    Will our people ever see the light?

    Sadly, your prediction seems sound.

    Just a quibble: the dotheads and Africans in the USA won’t stand a chance physically or politically. The Mexicans will have the numbers to overpower just about anyone and anything in most of California, Texas, and many other States.

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  184. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Will our people ever see the light?
     
    I believe so, both the antifa/BDS/SJW crowd on the left and the increasingly important white identity movement on the right have no love for the tribe, yesterday's massacre was I think something of a watershed moment, the tribe could not gloss over it because the demonstrators were not armed which is why I sensed a deep sense of discomfort nay almost revulsion amongst the female CNN commentators having to gloss over this horrific massacre.

    The increasingly islamicized Europe is fed up of them, Jeremy Corbyn's Labor party want nothing to do with them. They the tribe being pathological narcissists incapable of self reflection have predictably overplayed their hands once again and the same tragic consequences will follow. It's still not too late for them to change course but they're drunk on power and cruelty. Have hope the times they are a changing.

    Europe is increasingly Islamic, to be sure, and that is a tragedy.

    But Muslims probably won’t take national power, or influence national government officials, sufficiently to fundamentally change Europe’s obeisance to Israel and its wars within the next ten years or so — although the Germans, French, English, Italians et al. seem to be competing to see who can frantically admit Muslims the fastest and submit to sharia the soonest.

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    That whole Sharia brouhaha is mostly hype. Well what could happen is we could see more ethnic men engage in acts like the one seen in Rutherford.

    Parts of Britain look as if you've been transplanted into India/Pakistan/Sri lanka/Bangladesh or the carib. One can still go have a nice Kebab there. I've been able to score a few "ethnic" honeys during my heedless younger days quite a few of them muslim.

    if you are concerned about "radicals", yes some of them could be radicalized, but that comes handly for their zionist infiltrated spy agencies like the MI5 to occasionally conduct a false flag here and there. That would only make their job of tightening the nooze even easier. An orwellian police state is the future for the west.

    However none of them were able to prevent the UK from participating in the disastrous Iraq war or the Libyan fiasco. Nor are any of them any useful while the perfidious albion trudges along Uncle Sam (schlomo) with his regime change plans for Syria. Like in the ZUS, the elites in Europe would never alove any one else near their throne. So Sadiq Khan, if he doesn't tow the zionist line, would be chucked out and would have to go back driving that bus.

    Importing muslims and other brownies in Europe is part of a grand strategy to keep the European masses boiling and deflect attention while the zionazis and their duplicitous WASP minions carry out their "projects" in the middle east and eastern europe. Having Muslims around will keep groups like pegida busy, who would otherwise directed their efforts towards the JQ and they very well know that

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  185. @Rurik

    In the past, America was a competent, decent nation because it was an actual nation with a fairly unified populace. What moron thought trading that away would be a good thing?
     
    Fred Reed

    But only when it comes to Mexicans.

    but he has a solution you see!

    Blend

    Blend with the Mexicans at the molecular-genetic level, until ethnically, culturally, spiritually and in every other way, white Americans are indistinguishable from Mexicans.

    Not only will that create harmony and cohesion, it will also solve America's crime and political and economic problems.

    Keep in mind, it was Europeans who blended with the indigenous Aztecs to create what we call Mexicans today. It's only fair and proper that we encourage them to blend with us now, in a great harmonizing wave of equality / utopian rainbows. This is Fred's relentless scold for all of us 'racist' Deplorables, who resist Fred's exhortations to blend, blend, blend! He calls us 'gas station louts' afraid of our 'precious bodily fluids', if we don't want to blend. True story.

    So at least in that narrow context, Fred is exactly spot on aligned with all Hollywood and Washington, DC Jews, who also demand the 'great blending' - to harmonize and equalize humanity into a brown morass of indistinguishable consumers, cannon fodder, and assorted amusements for the .01%.

    (as I've said before, I have nothing against Mexicans or any other nationality/ethnicity. Unless they're pouring across the borders in a transformational wave of demographic destiny. And that goes for N. America and Europe)

    Rurik ~ the gas station lout

    Well said, Rurik, and Federico Reed deserved every word of it.

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  186. @HogHappenin
    On a lighter note, I wouldn't mind "blending" with a Salma Hayek lookalike or better yet if they have anything like those brown tiffanies straight outta enrique's videos!!

    Perhaps Fred was horribly bitten by one of these lady bugs so much so that he wants all of us to share the "joy" that he has experienced in the welcoming arms (and legs) of these brown honeys!

    But you gotta give me credit where its due. He called out the JQ which was highly unexpected from him. So it did come up as a big surprise to many and a pleasant one at that!

    He can return to the USA and stop shilling like a bitch for everything Mexican, then we’ll be pleasantly surprised.

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  187. @Rurik

    and a pleasant one at that!
     
    must agree!

    and, you're absolutely right about many of those guapas

    cultural enrichment moment:

    if you Google guapa, what it will tell you is that guapa means beautiful or pretty or something, but that's not what hombres mean when they call a girl a guapa. Pronounced 'wapa'

    what they mean is an alpha bitch. She might be pretty, or not. But if she's a guapa, then she's the boss bitch in the room.

    and contrary to the Internet, guapo does not mean 'handsome' man.

    rather it usually means a dude who struts around like a rooster, acting like he's the shit, but whose gestures are excessively macho to make up for his low status.

    there, a free cultural enrichment moment here on Unz

    Guapo does mean a handsome man, and guapa means a pretty woman, in the Philippines. Not a Spanish-speaking country now or even in the past, but there are 100-plus million people there who use guapo and guapa in the way indicated.

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    in the Philippines.
     
    I was referring to Hispanic culture

    especially Latin American, Cuban, etc..
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  188. @jeff davis
    Liberal Jews are just relatively quiet enablers. They complain mildly about the "uncomfortable and unhelpful" nature of the illiberal acts of Israel, but that's all. They virtue signal to stroke themselves, and to attempt to look "compassionate". But never more than that. When all is said and done, no matter the criminality of the Zionist project, they still support Israel. They deal in excuses, never justice. It's the tribal thing. To speak and act against Israel's crimes, is to betray the tribe, to renounce their Jewish identity. They can't do it. That's the old way. The new way, with the truth available courtesy of the internet, makes it easier for the younger Jews to stand for justice.

    I'm an American and a jew, and an old trouble-making anarchist type jew. I would like to see Israelis turn the shjt around, admit the mistake/crimes of the past, and work to set things right, but I'm absolutely convinced there is no way that's gonna happen. My fellow Jews have been fuckjng over people for five thousand years. The leopard and his spots. And it always ends badly for them. And it will be the same this time. They think there nukes will save them. Just the opposite. When the Russians see the Israelis developing nuke tech that will allow them to penetrate Russian defenses, they will be forced to preemptively defang Israel.

    Sadly, more than defanging will be necessary.

    If Russia or anyone else is going to risk the wrath of the USA by attacking Israel, they may as well obliterate the entirety of Israel and be done with it. No letting them get back up for more lying, manipulation, cruelty, and of course revenge against the attacker.

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  189. The Zionist Project 2. Israel 9/11, All Of The Pieces

    Christopher Bollyn explains With Facts Why and How Israel Did 9-11

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  190. Rurik says:

    Yes, I know Israel and the CIA were behind it. Duh.

    None of you get basic sensible stuff like the principle of parsimony, sufficiency, etc.

    or redundancy !

    had they simply planned for the potential for an error, like a rogue officer at NORAD ordering the shoot-down of the plane over Pennsylvania, thereby removing the third plane slated to hit tower seven, and the pretext for its implosion, Lucky Larry and crew wouldn’t have had to improvise, and tell the boyz to just “pull it” … “and then we watched the building collapse”

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    I think it is pretty simple. You either believe A) that a bunch of Arabs can learn to fly passenger jets like they were stunt fliers and that the laws of physics and science are arbitrary or non existent or B) that a controlled demolition took place as you can easily see with the naked eye.
    Now we know that a controlled demolition is a real thing right? So there you go. That is your answer. How it is done is fun to speculate but one thing it does not require is a lot of people to be in on the actual conspiracy. Most people are merely facilitators and are not in on anything. The news people reporting are only reciting their lines, the firemen are legitimately doing their jobs, the people in the towers are really killed, the military have for the most part no idea anything is going on because no one is asking for their assistance. You have all kinds of things working in your favor. No one knows what would happen in this situation so everyone immediately believes exactly what they see and have been told. I sure did. But now I know otherwise. Most people do not think anything of the magnitude could be pulled off but I would argue it is relatively simple for a select few to get it done. If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant. No one is going to seriously investigate if our own government agencies were complicit. It is certainly valuable to know that they were, and yes, Henry Kissinger pretty much says it all.
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  191. Rurik says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Guapo does mean a handsome man, and guapa means a pretty woman, in the Philippines. Not a Spanish-speaking country now or even in the past, but there are 100-plus million people there who use guapo and guapa in the way indicated.

    in the Philippines.

    I was referring to Hispanic culture

    especially Latin American, Cuban, etc..

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  192. @renfro

    Its Tamar and Leviathan offshore gas fields are huge and going to provide exports as well as all Israel needs domestically.
     
    Well I see you have fallen for the hype. Israel recently let bids for their newly discovered oil fields......getting only two bids from small producers (one from India, the other I forget ) is unheard of ...meaning confidence in how much oil is there is not strong...hence no big league companies were interested.

    Israel only produces o.395 BBL/D/1K is of Feb 2018 while it consumes 300,000 barrels of oil daily.
    So its gotta find 261,000 more barrels a day to even meet domestic consumption....much less be an exporter of oil.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/crude-oil-production

    What Israel is trying to get is the Golan oil fields, the offshore oil fields Lebanon currently is drilling and the Syria oil fields and the big prize--Iran's oil fields.

    Israel and the Jews always do better at stealing than they do producing any thing.

    Interesting, thanks. If I were seriously interested in the subject (and perhaps I should have been once because an oil company I invest in dropped its interest in one of those fields) I would follow it up. As it is I shall bear it in mind.

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    Don't invest in Zion Oil.....its a scam. 4 wells drilled...all empty....they keep suckering jew investors in and are near bankrupt again.
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  193. @Beefcake the Mighty
    A nitpick so that people don’t think you’re a complete fucking idiot: don’t say anything.

    Not a nitpick. Try learning from renfro’s reply if you are capable of learning.

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  194. @quasi_verbatim
    Why is it that following upon writing the words 'anti-semitic' Mr Reed proceeds to throw his brains out of the window?

    This is a huge step for Fred.

    Despite his carefully manicured swagger, when it comes to the JQ he’s as scared as any politician.

    But he’s now crossed the Rubicon — he no longer can pretend he doesn’t know what he’s seen here.

    If (IF) he continues to show good faith we should fraternally encourage his continued awakening.

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  195. @RadicalCenter
    Europe is increasingly Islamic, to be sure, and that is a tragedy.

    But Muslims probably won't take national power, or influence national government officials, sufficiently to fundamentally change Europe's obeisance to Israel and its wars within the next ten years or so -- although the Germans, French, English, Italians et al. seem to be competing to see who can frantically admit Muslims the fastest and submit to sharia the soonest.

    That whole Sharia brouhaha is mostly hype. Well what could happen is we could see more ethnic men engage in acts like the one seen in Rutherford.

    Parts of Britain look as if you’ve been transplanted into India/Pakistan/Sri lanka/Bangladesh or the carib. One can still go have a nice Kebab there. I’ve been able to score a few “ethnic” honeys during my heedless younger days quite a few of them muslim.

    if you are concerned about “radicals”, yes some of them could be radicalized, but that comes handly for their zionist infiltrated spy agencies like the MI5 to occasionally conduct a false flag here and there. That would only make their job of tightening the nooze even easier. An orwellian police state is the future for the west.

    However none of them were able to prevent the UK from participating in the disastrous Iraq war or the Libyan fiasco. Nor are any of them any useful while the perfidious albion trudges along Uncle Sam (schlomo) with his regime change plans for Syria. Like in the ZUS, the elites in Europe would never alove any one else near their throne. So Sadiq Khan, if he doesn’t tow the zionist line, would be chucked out and would have to go back driving that bus.

    Importing muslims and other brownies in Europe is part of a grand strategy to keep the European masses boiling and deflect attention while the zionazis and their duplicitous WASP minions carry out their “projects” in the middle east and eastern europe. Having Muslims around will keep groups like pegida busy, who would otherwise directed their efforts towards the JQ and they very well know that

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  196. anarchyst says:
    @RadicalCenter
    You're right.

    Same applies to the part of New Jersey where I grew up.

    A childhood friend of mine went on to volunteer into the IDF. On the one occasion when I saw him as an adult, when he was back in the States, he mentioned what he had been doing and I asked, with feigned innocence, "Oh, was the US military full?" He laughed, and I then indicated that I was seriously curious why he had joined a foreign military instead of our country's military. I also asked whether he would side with us or Israel if there were a war between us (he never did give a straight answer).

    He didn't laugh after that, and I'm glad that the conversation became uncomfortable for him, the traitorous ass.

    Serving in a foreign military should be grounds for loss of U S citizenship. Oh, I forgot, Israel is our “friend”, (yeah,right)…
    AIPAC–not registered as an agent of a foreign government.
    IAEA non compliance–Israel still receives “foreign aid” despite non compliance with Symington law prohibiting foreign aid for any country not complying with international nuclear agreements.
    What’s wrong with this picture?

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  197. Sparkon says:
    @Mike P

    Looking for nanothermite, Fairy Dust, or something else?
     
    It is not sufficient to show they were looking for something else, you've got to show that they found it.

    The presence of copious amounts of nanothermite, as well as its reaction products, in the dust produced by the WTC1 and WTC2 collapses is clearly documented in the the scientific paper by Harrit, Jones et al.

    That does not rule out, of course, that nuclear devices were not also used. If you can support your claim by some well-documented study that is similarly specific, thorough, and scientifically sound, and which clearly shows the presence of radioactive isotopes of strontium etc. (as opposed to trace amounts of their stable isotopes), please share it. Following your link, I could locate no such thing.

    I see that someone at Unz Review has summarily deleted Jonathan’s Revusky’s very popular article on Betty Ong and 9/11.

    Ron Unz on May 8, 2:37Z

    Indeed, it just passed 160,000 words, easily breaking all previous records for this website.

    Yes, we know Mr. Ron Unz likes to thump his chest about hosting all the banned books and videos from YouBoob, while at the same time he exercises censorship of popular articles on his own blog!

    And here all this time – poor gullible me! — I have been regarding Mr. Unz as a paragon of fairness and objectivity even with all his millions, a stalwart man who is entirely dedicated to promoting and safeguarding free speech — even while referring to no planes theorists as “nuts” — so I admit I can’t get it through my widdle head: I’m cwushed Mr. Unz. How could you do it?

    Was it mendacity, or was it chutzpah?

    Or maybe $10,000?

    Well, whatever provoked Unz to do the dirty deed, fair is fair, and with Mr. Reed’s gracious indulgence, I will now repost a comment of mine from the deleted article.

    Sparkon says:
    May 13, 2018 at 5:28 pm GMT • 300 Words
    Anonymous

    The ‘nanothermite’ they used on WTC1,2,7 was an explosive.

    At best, nanothermite is a weak explosive.

    According to scientific analysis I’ve seen, nanothermite does not have explosive effects powerful or energetic enough to account for what happened to the buildings in New York’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

    Chemical engineer T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer) on Aug. 26, 2011:

    So 895 m/s is the highest velocity yet to be found for an iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite in the scientific literature, where this velocity is far too low to have played a significant role in the destruction of the Twin Towers by means of its shock waves.

    Let’s examine the reason for that important last statement. The “destructive fragmentation effect” of an explosive is its detonation velocity, or the speed of the shock wave through the substance it is traveling in. To significantly fragment a substance, the detonation velocity of the explosive must equal or exceed the sonic velocity (the speed of sound) in the material.

    For example, the speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 m/s. In steel, the speed of sound is 6,100 m/s. Conventional high explosives such as TNT and RDX have detonation velocities of 6,900 and 8,750 m/s respectively, and are therefore capable of fragmenting concrete and steel, because both 6,900 and 8,750 exceed the sonic velocities of 3,200 m/s required to shatter concrete and 6,100 m/s required to shatter steel.

    As Dwain Deets has diagrammed, at only 895 m/s, iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite does not come close to TNT and RDX.

    – T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer)

    (My formatting edits for clarity and impact)

    http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2011/08/nanothermite-if-it-doesnt-fit-you-must.html

    On May 15, 2018, I had Mr. Revusky’s article “Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty” (with 1315 comments) open in a browser tab. When I refreshed that tab, I got a message to the effect that “This page does not exist at Unz Review.”

    But I had already saved the entire article and discussion with all 1315 comments to a cloud drive elsewhere, and backed up in multiple locations, so I will be able to quote from it freely should the occasion arise.

    Bottom line: as shown by the Hightower’s numbers, nanothermite does not have the explosive energy to account for the destruction of the WTC as reflected in the existing videos, and it’s not even close.

    Nanothermite is therefore most likely a red herring.

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    Nanothermite may be a weak explosive, but it sure is very good at melting and cutting through steel. I have no evidence that other explosives were not also used - it seems quite plausible that they were, but the nanothermite most definitely is there.

    The most important aspect of the detection of nanothermite is that totally undermines the story that it was the fuel from the airplanes that did it all.
    , @anon
    is this the article that Ron Unz so treacherously removed from the Unz site -- this article titled
    Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty”
    [by] JONATHAN REVUSKY

    that is accessible at this link
    https://www.unz.com/article/revisiting-911-betty-ong-and-the-mystery-of-black-betty/

    on Unz.com?
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  198. MacNucc11 says:
    @Rurik

    Yes, I know Israel and the CIA were behind it. Duh.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHsjxiwU0HA

    None of you get basic sensible stuff like the principle of parsimony, sufficiency, etc.
     
    or redundancy !

    had they simply planned for the potential for an error, like a rogue officer at NORAD ordering the shoot-down of the plane over Pennsylvania, thereby removing the third plane slated to hit tower seven, and the pretext for its implosion, Lucky Larry and crew wouldn't have had to improvise, and tell the boyz to just "pull it" ... "and then we watched the building collapse"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

    I think it is pretty simple. You either believe A) that a bunch of Arabs can learn to fly passenger jets like they were stunt fliers and that the laws of physics and science are arbitrary or non existent or B) that a controlled demolition took place as you can easily see with the naked eye.
    Now we know that a controlled demolition is a real thing right? So there you go. That is your answer. How it is done is fun to speculate but one thing it does not require is a lot of people to be in on the actual conspiracy. Most people are merely facilitators and are not in on anything. The news people reporting are only reciting their lines, the firemen are legitimately doing their jobs, the people in the towers are really killed, the military have for the most part no idea anything is going on because no one is asking for their assistance. You have all kinds of things working in your favor. No one knows what would happen in this situation so everyone immediately believes exactly what they see and have been told. I sure did. But now I know otherwise. Most people do not think anything of the magnitude could be pulled off but I would argue it is relatively simple for a select few to get it done. If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant. No one is going to seriously investigate if our own government agencies were complicit. It is certainly valuable to know that they were, and yes, Henry Kissinger pretty much says it all.

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    If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant.
     
    The main reason people can't grasp the enormity of 9/11, is because they just can't imagine that so many people, (media, federal government at the highest levels, elements within the CIA and FBI) could be complicit with such a monumental betrayal.

    But in historical context, such betrayals happen all the time.

    Didn't England go to war with S. Africa to steal her gold and diamonds, while genociding the Dutch farmer's families in concentration camps?

    Didn't the New York bankers fund Trotsky, and send him to Russia to enslave the planet to communism? With the aid of president Wilson? How many millions of people died horribly at the hands of genocidal communists in the 20th century because of Wilson's treachery?

    And yet he's treated like a great statesmen, in large part because of the evils he wrought.

    Or consider FDR, another agent of Satan who dragged the US into an existential European war, and set in motion the (perhaps irreversible) death of Western civilization.

    There have been crimes and evil acts to benumb the spine, that are treated by the history books as great and noble, and yet not one in a thousand know the truth.

    How many people know that the Lusitania was full of armaments?

    Or, consider the other wars based on lies, like Vietnam, where scores of thousands of Americans died, killing villagers in a far away land, all based on lies. And who was ever held accountable for the Gulf of Tonkin lie?

    Or, as I was recently speaking of, the attack on the USS Liberty, where our supposed ally, who gets billions of dollars of largess from the American people, tried to sink our ship and murder all hands in a cowardly act of treachery that has shades of 9/11 for sheer diabolical scope of its evil, and yet it was covered up, and continues to be covered up, at the highest levels of government and the ((media)).

    Lavon affair, Operation Northwoods, and on and on. There is precedent for such treachery, and cover up, but they've been covered up so well that no one of consequence even knows about them.

    Just like 9/11.

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  199. Mike P says:
    @Sparkon
    I see that someone at Unz Review has summarily deleted Jonathan's Revusky's very popular article on Betty Ong and 9/11.

    Ron Unz on May 8, 2:37Z


    Indeed, it just passed 160,000 words, easily breaking all previous records for this website.
     
    Yes, we know Mr. Ron Unz likes to thump his chest about hosting all the banned books and videos from YouBoob, while at the same time he exercises censorship of popular articles on his own blog!

    And here all this time - poor gullible me! -- I have been regarding Mr. Unz as a paragon of fairness and objectivity even with all his millions, a stalwart man who is entirely dedicated to promoting and safeguarding free speech -- even while referring to no planes theorists as "nuts" -- so I admit I can't get it through my widdle head: I'm cwushed Mr. Unz. How could you do it?

    Was it mendacity, or was it chutzpah?

    Or maybe $10,000?

    Well, whatever provoked Unz to do the dirty deed, fair is fair, and with Mr. Reed's gracious indulgence, I will now repost a comment of mine from the deleted article.


    Sparkon says:
    May 13, 2018 at 5:28 pm GMT • 300 Words
    Anonymous

    The ‘nanothermite’ they used on WTC1,2,7 was an explosive.
     
    At best, nanothermite is a weak explosive.

    According to scientific analysis I’ve seen, nanothermite does not have explosive effects powerful or energetic enough to account for what happened to the buildings in New York’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

    Chemical engineer T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer) on Aug. 26, 2011:


    So 895 m/s is the highest velocity yet to be found for an iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite in the scientific literature, where this velocity is far too low to have played a significant role in the destruction of the Twin Towers by means of its shock waves.

    Let’s examine the reason for that important last statement. The “destructive fragmentation effect” of an explosive is its detonation velocity, or the speed of the shock wave through the substance it is traveling in. To significantly fragment a substance, the detonation velocity of the explosive must equal or exceed the sonic velocity (the speed of sound) in the material.

    For example, the speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 m/s. In steel, the speed of sound is 6,100 m/s. Conventional high explosives such as TNT and RDX have detonation velocities of 6,900 and 8,750 m/s respectively, and are therefore capable of fragmenting concrete and steel, because both 6,900 and 8,750 exceed the sonic velocities of 3,200 m/s required to shatter concrete and 6,100 m/s required to shatter steel.

    As Dwain Deets has diagrammed, at only 895 m/s, iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite does not come close to TNT and RDX.
     

    – T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer)

    (My formatting edits for clarity and impact)
     

    http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2011/08/nanothermite-if-it-doesnt-fit-you-must.html

    On May 15, 2018, I had Mr. Revusky's article "Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty” (with 1315 comments) open in a browser tab. When I refreshed that tab, I got a message to the effect that "This page does not exist at Unz Review."

    But I had already saved the entire article and discussion with all 1315 comments to a cloud drive elsewhere, and backed up in multiple locations, so I will be able to quote from it freely should the occasion arise.

    Bottom line: as shown by the Hightower's numbers, nanothermite does not have the explosive energy to account for the destruction of the WTC as reflected in the existing videos, and it's not even close.

    Nanothermite is therefore most likely a red herring.

    Nanothermite may be a weak explosive, but it sure is very good at melting and cutting through steel. I have no evidence that other explosives were not also used – it seems quite plausible that they were, but the nanothermite most definitely is there.

    The most important aspect of the detection of nanothermite is that totally undermines the story that it was the fuel from the airplanes that did it all.

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  200. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sparkon
    I see that someone at Unz Review has summarily deleted Jonathan's Revusky's very popular article on Betty Ong and 9/11.

    Ron Unz on May 8, 2:37Z


    Indeed, it just passed 160,000 words, easily breaking all previous records for this website.
     
    Yes, we know Mr. Ron Unz likes to thump his chest about hosting all the banned books and videos from YouBoob, while at the same time he exercises censorship of popular articles on his own blog!

    And here all this time - poor gullible me! -- I have been regarding Mr. Unz as a paragon of fairness and objectivity even with all his millions, a stalwart man who is entirely dedicated to promoting and safeguarding free speech -- even while referring to no planes theorists as "nuts" -- so I admit I can't get it through my widdle head: I'm cwushed Mr. Unz. How could you do it?

    Was it mendacity, or was it chutzpah?

    Or maybe $10,000?

    Well, whatever provoked Unz to do the dirty deed, fair is fair, and with Mr. Reed's gracious indulgence, I will now repost a comment of mine from the deleted article.


    Sparkon says:
    May 13, 2018 at 5:28 pm GMT • 300 Words
    Anonymous

    The ‘nanothermite’ they used on WTC1,2,7 was an explosive.
     
    At best, nanothermite is a weak explosive.

    According to scientific analysis I’ve seen, nanothermite does not have explosive effects powerful or energetic enough to account for what happened to the buildings in New York’s World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

    Chemical engineer T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer) on Aug. 26, 2011:


    So 895 m/s is the highest velocity yet to be found for an iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite in the scientific literature, where this velocity is far too low to have played a significant role in the destruction of the Twin Towers by means of its shock waves.

    Let’s examine the reason for that important last statement. The “destructive fragmentation effect” of an explosive is its detonation velocity, or the speed of the shock wave through the substance it is traveling in. To significantly fragment a substance, the detonation velocity of the explosive must equal or exceed the sonic velocity (the speed of sound) in the material.

    For example, the speed of sound in concrete is 3,200 m/s. In steel, the speed of sound is 6,100 m/s. Conventional high explosives such as TNT and RDX have detonation velocities of 6,900 and 8,750 m/s respectively, and are therefore capable of fragmenting concrete and steel, because both 6,900 and 8,750 exceed the sonic velocities of 3,200 m/s required to shatter concrete and 6,100 m/s required to shatter steel.

    As Dwain Deets has diagrammed, at only 895 m/s, iron-oxide/aluminum nanothermite does not come close to TNT and RDX.
     

    – T. Mark Hightower (with Jim Fetzer)

    (My formatting edits for clarity and impact)
     

    http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2011/08/nanothermite-if-it-doesnt-fit-you-must.html

    On May 15, 2018, I had Mr. Revusky's article "Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty” (with 1315 comments) open in a browser tab. When I refreshed that tab, I got a message to the effect that "This page does not exist at Unz Review."

    But I had already saved the entire article and discussion with all 1315 comments to a cloud drive elsewhere, and backed up in multiple locations, so I will be able to quote from it freely should the occasion arise.

    Bottom line: as shown by the Hightower's numbers, nanothermite does not have the explosive energy to account for the destruction of the WTC as reflected in the existing videos, and it's not even close.

    Nanothermite is therefore most likely a red herring.

    is this the article that Ron Unz so treacherously removed from the Unz site — this article titled
    Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty”
    [by] JONATHAN REVUSKY

    that is accessible at this link

    https://www.unz.com/article/revisiting-911-betty-ong-and-the-mystery-of-black-betty/

    on Unz.com?

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    Maybe Sparkon tried to access it during the unz.com outage (DoS attack?) that occurred earlier today.
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  201. Mike P says:
    @anon
    is this the article that Ron Unz so treacherously removed from the Unz site -- this article titled
    Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty”
    [by] JONATHAN REVUSKY

    that is accessible at this link
    https://www.unz.com/article/revisiting-911-betty-ong-and-the-mystery-of-black-betty/

    on Unz.com?

    Maybe Sparkon tried to access it during the unz.com outage (DoS attack?) that occurred earlier today.

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    As stated, sometime early evening

    On May 15, 2018, I had Mr. Revusky’s article “Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty” (with 1315 comments) open in a browser tab. When I refreshed that tab, I got a message to the effect that “This page does not exist at Unz Review.”
     
    I tried to use the back-arrow in Firefox without result. Nothing there.

    I loaded UR front page in another tab, and scrolled down to the bottom, but Revusky's article was not there in the left column, not was it there the following morning, when I wrote my #197. McNucc's #198 appeared, but my 197 went into moderation for over three hours before I gave up monitoring it very closely, moved over to a different computer for several hours until the Warriors game, when I checked UR front page again, where I noted one new comment for Fred Reed's article, and Revusky's article had reappeared.

    Well, at least I got an LOL from Ron Unz. Laughter is the best medicine, and it's a good opportunity for me to once again thank Mr. Unz for providing this venue.

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  202. Rurik says:
    @MacNucc11
    I think it is pretty simple. You either believe A) that a bunch of Arabs can learn to fly passenger jets like they were stunt fliers and that the laws of physics and science are arbitrary or non existent or B) that a controlled demolition took place as you can easily see with the naked eye.
    Now we know that a controlled demolition is a real thing right? So there you go. That is your answer. How it is done is fun to speculate but one thing it does not require is a lot of people to be in on the actual conspiracy. Most people are merely facilitators and are not in on anything. The news people reporting are only reciting their lines, the firemen are legitimately doing their jobs, the people in the towers are really killed, the military have for the most part no idea anything is going on because no one is asking for their assistance. You have all kinds of things working in your favor. No one knows what would happen in this situation so everyone immediately believes exactly what they see and have been told. I sure did. But now I know otherwise. Most people do not think anything of the magnitude could be pulled off but I would argue it is relatively simple for a select few to get it done. If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant. No one is going to seriously investigate if our own government agencies were complicit. It is certainly valuable to know that they were, and yes, Henry Kissinger pretty much says it all.

    If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant.

    The main reason people can’t grasp the enormity of 9/11, is because they just can’t imagine that so many people, (media, federal government at the highest levels, elements within the CIA and FBI) could be complicit with such a monumental betrayal.

    But in historical context, such betrayals happen all the time.

    Didn’t England go to war with S. Africa to steal her gold and diamonds, while genociding the Dutch farmer’s families in concentration camps?

    Didn’t the New York bankers fund Trotsky, and send him to Russia to enslave the planet to communism? With the aid of president Wilson? How many millions of people died horribly at the hands of genocidal communists in the 20th century because of Wilson’s treachery?

    And yet he’s treated like a great statesmen, in large part because of the evils he wrought.

    Or consider FDR, another agent of Satan who dragged the US into an existential European war, and set in motion the (perhaps irreversible) death of Western civilization.

    There have been crimes and evil acts to benumb the spine, that are treated by the history books as great and noble, and yet not one in a thousand know the truth.

    How many people know that the Lusitania was full of armaments?

    Or, consider the other wars based on lies, like Vietnam, where scores of thousands of Americans died, killing villagers in a far away land, all based on lies. And who was ever held accountable for the Gulf of Tonkin lie?

    Or, as I was recently speaking of, the attack on the USS Liberty, where our supposed ally, who gets billions of dollars of largess from the American people, tried to sink our ship and murder all hands in a cowardly act of treachery that has shades of 9/11 for sheer diabolical scope of its evil, and yet it was covered up, and continues to be covered up, at the highest levels of government and the ((media)).

    Lavon affair, Operation Northwoods, and on and on. There is precedent for such treachery, and cover up, but they’ve been covered up so well that no one of consequence even knows about them.

    Just like 9/11.

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    You bring up an excellent point. June 8, 2017 was the 50th anniversary of the deliberate Israeli act of war against the USA with the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty (GTR-5). There was NOT ONE MENTION of this event IN ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
    Normally, an event of this magnitude rates at least a mention for historical reasons, but not this one.
    This is merely more proof of who owns the mainstream media...
    , @MacNucc11
    In my opinion you can throw St. Abe Lincoln, a Marxist into the mix. Caused the death of 700,000 give or take, and that is just military. He manufactured an event to get that war started. Killed thousands and destroyed cities for the right to be able to impose higher taxes on the states. Most people don't know the full history of this but it caused the increase in federal government power over the people and the states became more and more subservient to the federal tyranny. Now we have to witness brain numbed morons destroying the monuments to the confederate war heroes. The subtle message being it is wrong to oppose the government. All must be brought into line. Goes against what the founding father's believed. Now when these false flag attacks occur I just know outright it is all fabricated.
    The towers has all the earmarks of a fed set up where they swoop in and arrest the conspirators as they are about to pull it off. Although the more I hear about this the more I think it is quite possible there was no actual terrorist to begin with. The value of knowing how they pull this stuff off is knowing that they can and they do, again and again. Our media and education institutions will repeat the lies as truth and cover for them. I give credit to anyone who researches this kind of event and puts the information out there for others to learn from. It draws a lot of hate from people because it goes against what they are told to believe. They know that not believing the story has consequences.
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  203. renfro says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Interesting, thanks. If I were seriously interested in the subject (and perhaps I should have been once because an oil company I invest in dropped its interest in one of those fields) I would follow it up. As it is I shall bear it in mind.

    Don’t invest in Zion Oil…..its a scam. 4 wells drilled…all empty….they keep suckering jew investors in and are near bankrupt again.

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  204. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik

    If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant.
     
    The main reason people can't grasp the enormity of 9/11, is because they just can't imagine that so many people, (media, federal government at the highest levels, elements within the CIA and FBI) could be complicit with such a monumental betrayal.

    But in historical context, such betrayals happen all the time.

    Didn't England go to war with S. Africa to steal her gold and diamonds, while genociding the Dutch farmer's families in concentration camps?

    Didn't the New York bankers fund Trotsky, and send him to Russia to enslave the planet to communism? With the aid of president Wilson? How many millions of people died horribly at the hands of genocidal communists in the 20th century because of Wilson's treachery?

    And yet he's treated like a great statesmen, in large part because of the evils he wrought.

    Or consider FDR, another agent of Satan who dragged the US into an existential European war, and set in motion the (perhaps irreversible) death of Western civilization.

    There have been crimes and evil acts to benumb the spine, that are treated by the history books as great and noble, and yet not one in a thousand know the truth.

    How many people know that the Lusitania was full of armaments?

    Or, consider the other wars based on lies, like Vietnam, where scores of thousands of Americans died, killing villagers in a far away land, all based on lies. And who was ever held accountable for the Gulf of Tonkin lie?

    Or, as I was recently speaking of, the attack on the USS Liberty, where our supposed ally, who gets billions of dollars of largess from the American people, tried to sink our ship and murder all hands in a cowardly act of treachery that has shades of 9/11 for sheer diabolical scope of its evil, and yet it was covered up, and continues to be covered up, at the highest levels of government and the ((media)).

    Lavon affair, Operation Northwoods, and on and on. There is precedent for such treachery, and cover up, but they've been covered up so well that no one of consequence even knows about them.

    Just like 9/11.

    http://www.lazerhorse.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Sheep-Vs-Cow.jpg

    You bring up an excellent point. June 8, 2017 was the 50th anniversary of the deliberate Israeli act of war against the USA with the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty (GTR-5). There was NOT ONE MENTION of this event IN ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
    Normally, an event of this magnitude rates at least a mention for historical reasons, but not this one.
    This is merely more proof of who owns the mainstream media…

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  205. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:

    This is merely more proof of who owns the mainstream media…

    yep, and the fact that not one in a hundred people you ask has even heard of the USS Liberty, goes to show how pervasive is their ability to cover up these events and impose a pall over any discussion, using fear and intimidation.

    When you look at the circumstances surrounding Michael Hasting’s death, with his car blowing up in a way that the manufacture says is impossible, and the stonewalling from the local authorities.

    Hastings had recently gone public with a powerful determination to publish things the government didn’t want published. check him out at 3:45

    “we’ve let them tell us what to print and what not to print”

    that sounds exactly like what that German journalist said about how being a msm “journalist” meant being a mouthpiece of the CIA.

    Udo Ulfkotte died from a “heart attack” on 13 January 2017 at the age of 56

    [RIP]

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  206. MacNucc11 says:
    @Rurik

    If anyone does know what happened and how it was done they also know to keep their mouth shut and pretend to be ignorant.
     
    The main reason people can't grasp the enormity of 9/11, is because they just can't imagine that so many people, (media, federal government at the highest levels, elements within the CIA and FBI) could be complicit with such a monumental betrayal.

    But in historical context, such betrayals happen all the time.

    Didn't England go to war with S. Africa to steal her gold and diamonds, while genociding the Dutch farmer's families in concentration camps?

    Didn't the New York bankers fund Trotsky, and send him to Russia to enslave the planet to communism? With the aid of president Wilson? How many millions of people died horribly at the hands of genocidal communists in the 20th century because of Wilson's treachery?

    And yet he's treated like a great statesmen, in large part because of the evils he wrought.

    Or consider FDR, another agent of Satan who dragged the US into an existential European war, and set in motion the (perhaps irreversible) death of Western civilization.

    There have been crimes and evil acts to benumb the spine, that are treated by the history books as great and noble, and yet not one in a thousand know the truth.

    How many people know that the Lusitania was full of armaments?

    Or, consider the other wars based on lies, like Vietnam, where scores of thousands of Americans died, killing villagers in a far away land, all based on lies. And who was ever held accountable for the Gulf of Tonkin lie?

    Or, as I was recently speaking of, the attack on the USS Liberty, where our supposed ally, who gets billions of dollars of largess from the American people, tried to sink our ship and murder all hands in a cowardly act of treachery that has shades of 9/11 for sheer diabolical scope of its evil, and yet it was covered up, and continues to be covered up, at the highest levels of government and the ((media)).

    Lavon affair, Operation Northwoods, and on and on. There is precedent for such treachery, and cover up, but they've been covered up so well that no one of consequence even knows about them.

    Just like 9/11.

    http://www.lazerhorse.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Sheep-Vs-Cow.jpg

    In my opinion you can throw St. Abe Lincoln, a Marxist into the mix. Caused the death of 700,000 give or take, and that is just military. He manufactured an event to get that war started. Killed thousands and destroyed cities for the right to be able to impose higher taxes on the states. Most people don’t know the full history of this but it caused the increase in federal government power over the people and the states became more and more subservient to the federal tyranny. Now we have to witness brain numbed morons destroying the monuments to the confederate war heroes. The subtle message being it is wrong to oppose the government. All must be brought into line. Goes against what the founding father’s believed. Now when these false flag attacks occur I just know outright it is all fabricated.
    The towers has all the earmarks of a fed set up where they swoop in and arrest the conspirators as they are about to pull it off. Although the more I hear about this the more I think it is quite possible there was no actual terrorist to begin with. The value of knowing how they pull this stuff off is knowing that they can and they do, again and again. Our media and education institutions will repeat the lies as truth and cover for them. I give credit to anyone who researches this kind of event and puts the information out there for others to learn from. It draws a lot of hate from people because it goes against what they are told to believe. They know that not believing the story has consequences.

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  207. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:

    They know that not believing the story has consequences.

    put your head down, shuffle along, and you’ll be OK

    and you’re right about Lincoln, regardless of slavery (an evil institution on its way out), the South had every right to secede. Telling people they have to submit to federal authority, (whose only authority comes from the free consent of the governed) is the exact moment that such a government become de facto illegitimate.

    a legitimate government is a servant, not a master. The second the people in government forget that, is the second they forfeit the authority vested in them by the people.

    The tragedy is that so often government gets so powerful, so quickly, that by the time you realize that it’s y0ur government that’s the biggest threat to your well-being, is the time when it’s too late to oppose them without a bloodbath.

    Spiritually, psychologically, emotionally, patriotically, mentally and in every way of significance- I seceded from this government long, long ago. I obey the laws and pay the taxes, but I pledge no allegiance to a government that’s been occupied by an enemy of the Constitution and an enemy of the American people, for over a hundred years now.

    to pledge allegiance in your heart to such a government, would be like a Palestinian pledging allegiance to Bibi.

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  208. Sparkon says:
    @Mike P
    Maybe Sparkon tried to access it during the unz.com outage (DoS attack?) that occurred earlier today.

    As stated, sometime early evening

    On May 15, 2018, I had Mr. Revusky’s article “Revisiting 9/11, Betty Ong, and the Mystery of “Black Betty” (with 1315 comments) open in a browser tab. When I refreshed that tab, I got a message to the effect that “This page does not exist at Unz Review.”

    I tried to use the back-arrow in Firefox without result. Nothing there.

    I loaded UR front page in another tab, and scrolled down to the bottom, but Revusky’s article was not there in the left column, not was it there the following morning, when I wrote my #197. McNucc’s #198 appeared, but my 197 went into moderation for over three hours before I gave up monitoring it very closely, moved over to a different computer for several hours until the Warriors game, when I checked UR front page again, where I noted one new comment for Fred Reed’s article, and Revusky’s article had reappeared.

    Well, at least I got an LOL from Ron Unz. Laughter is the best medicine, and it’s a good opportunity for me to once again thank Mr. Unz for providing this venue.

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  209. chris says:
    @jeff davis
    Liberal Jews are just relatively quiet enablers. They complain mildly about the "uncomfortable and unhelpful" nature of the illiberal acts of Israel, but that's all. They virtue signal to stroke themselves, and to attempt to look "compassionate". But never more than that. When all is said and done, no matter the criminality of the Zionist project, they still support Israel. They deal in excuses, never justice. It's the tribal thing. To speak and act against Israel's crimes, is to betray the tribe, to renounce their Jewish identity. They can't do it. That's the old way. The new way, with the truth available courtesy of the internet, makes it easier for the younger Jews to stand for justice.

    I'm an American and a jew, and an old trouble-making anarchist type jew. I would like to see Israelis turn the shjt around, admit the mistake/crimes of the past, and work to set things right, but I'm absolutely convinced there is no way that's gonna happen. My fellow Jews have been fuckjng over people for five thousand years. The leopard and his spots. And it always ends badly for them. And it will be the same this time. They think there nukes will save them. Just the opposite. When the Russians see the Israelis developing nuke tech that will allow them to penetrate Russian defenses, they will be forced to preemptively defang Israel.

    Very well put, Jeff, thanks.

    Yeah, that’s what I was driving at with my comment also, and thanks for your confirmation.

    Fred is hiding behind the survey that says that most American Jews support the “Iran Deal,” but I dispute that point on the basis that Jews, not lacking for media platforms to express their discontent, are remarkably silent on the issue. So much so that their silence may be taken to speak for itself.

    I also completely agree with the point you’re making, that the escalation with Iran and Syria and also with Russia, result is a much more dangerous world (deadly, really for all Middle Easterners) made more so every day for the rest of us. I repeat my point from an earlier post: even from Israel’s perspective, the provocation of endless conflict cannot be anything like a long-term winning strategy.

    And regarding your fear of Israel being a target, yeah, I’ve had that speculation as well; it’s a logical consequence of the dangerous, provocative role they’re playing.

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  210. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    The assertion that America should fight only wars in the America interest will be called, sigh, anti-Semitism. It is not. Yes, there exists in some quarters an obsessive, grinding hatred of Jews.”

    No it is already upon us.

    Chcuk Hegel was called antisemtie because his past view that he was elected to serve US not Israel.

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  211. @Anon

    They know that not believing the story has consequences.
     
    put your head down, shuffle along, and you'll be OK

    and you're right about Lincoln, regardless of slavery (an evil institution on its way out), the South had every right to secede. Telling people they have to submit to federal authority, (whose only authority comes from the free consent of the governed) is the exact moment that such a government become de facto illegitimate.

    a legitimate government is a servant, not a master. The second the people in government forget that, is the second they forfeit the authority vested in them by the people.

    The tragedy is that so often government gets so powerful, so quickly, that by the time you realize that it's y0ur government that's the biggest threat to your well-being, is the time when it's too late to oppose them without a bloodbath.

    Spiritually, psychologically, emotionally, patriotically, mentally and in every way of significance- I seceded from this government long, long ago. I obey the laws and pay the taxes, but I pledge no allegiance to a government that's been occupied by an enemy of the Constitution and an enemy of the American people, for over a hundred years now.

    to pledge allegiance in your heart to such a government, would be like a Palestinian pledging allegiance to Bibi.

    …or like an American pledging allegiance to Bibi.

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  212. Flip says:
    @Rurik

    like for instance how they didn’t even want to have any kind of investigation at all.
     
    I just read what I wrote there, and remembered when exactly the moment was that I knew they were bullshitting us.

    It was when the Jersey Girls (widows of 9/11) demanded an investigation

    http://911blogger.com/archive/files/images/jerseygirls.jpg

    and the Bush regime balked and balked until finally pushed into a corner, and then came up with a man to head the investigation!

    a one Henry Kissinger!

    that was the moment I knew they were lying

    Sort of like picking Allen Dulles to head the Warren Commission.

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  213. Dani says:
    @Rurik

    herd the deplorables toward a desired folly
     
    couldn't resist, could ya Fred?

    for the record, the deplorables are and have been the least 'herd-able' members of the ZUSA demographic. We're the ones who know that our congress is Zionist occupied territory, that the media is Jewish supremacist owned, (which is why it specifically hates our deplorable, white, straight, male guts more than it hates anyone or anything else. Which, for a people known for a singularly unique capacity to hate, is saying a lot!) and that our central bank, (and consequently everything else of consequence, including the potus) are controlled ultimately by Zionist, Jewish supremacist Jews.

    And that goes for Western Europe as well. Duh.

    We're the ones that have been pointing out for decades that the ZUSA foreign policy is treasonous and wrong, murderous, criminal and Satanic. (how other than 'Satanic' can you characterize torturing innocents, terrorizing entire nations with terror drones, and assassination goon squads? Bombing and destroying country after country on behalf of a nation and people that hate your guts, and laugh at the idea of your children dying to kill their rivals)

    Such a deal!

    But. nevertheless, it's nice to see that at long last, Fred is loosening the chains around his own mind, and trickling out some dire truths.

    Rurik, this awake & aware white lady of Polish & Ukrainian descent applauds your highly accurate posting. I am well aware of the fact, too, that there are many others out there mirroring your words in other forums and on other platforms.
    We’ve been conditioned for so long that it is going to take a little more time to shake this leg cramp off.

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  214. annamaria says:

    “Hell is empty and all the devils are here.” — The Complete Moral Collapse of Labour Friends of Israel: https://off-guardian.org/2018/05/17/the-moral-collapse-of-labour-friends-of-israel/

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  215. Fred Reed has always been a Southerner with inherited sense of honor. At his age, and with his experience, he has no reason to hold back his disgust. He enunciates that the former United States has become a dishonorable, dishonest culture, from top to bottom, and he can enunciate the fact that Jews Run Things and if you don’t like it and the dishonoring of our past and the purchase of the former US military and the Congress, you’d better keep your mouth shut. Fred is well past being afraid of having his family’s livelihood taken away from him, and is relatively safe in Mexico, where the Catholic population generally has the same view of ZOG, and its control over the former gringos.
    Fred is at heart an honorable Southern military man. The ZOG takeover particularly of Bible Belt fundies must be particularly galling to him.
    The ZOG is going to dissolve someday, sooner than we think. It is Nature’s law, and inevitable karma.
    True Southern honor will always endure. Thank you brother Fred.

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    You imply Fred has always fearlessly opposed ZOG-related treachery.

    He has not.

    Whether or not he is at long last wising up to the JQ (or simply coming out of the closet) is an interesting question in its own right.

    Either way, a mere 2 months ago he was mocking infidels:

    "The Future of the Jews -
    More of the Past?"
    -- [ http://www.unz.com/freed/the-future-of-the-jews/ ]

    (Fred Reed, Unz; March 4, 2018)

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  216. @Army of the Potomac
    Fred Reed has always been a Southerner with inherited sense of honor. At his age, and with his experience, he has no reason to hold back his disgust. He enunciates that the former United States has become a dishonorable, dishonest culture, from top to bottom, and he can enunciate the fact that Jews Run Things and if you don't like it and the dishonoring of our past and the purchase of the former US military and the Congress, you'd better keep your mouth shut. Fred is well past being afraid of having his family's livelihood taken away from him, and is relatively safe in Mexico, where the Catholic population generally has the same view of ZOG, and its control over the former gringos.
    Fred is at heart an honorable Southern military man. The ZOG takeover particularly of Bible Belt fundies must be particularly galling to him.
    The ZOG is going to dissolve someday, sooner than we think. It is Nature's law, and inevitable karma.
    True Southern honor will always endure. Thank you brother Fred.

    You imply Fred has always fearlessly opposed ZOG-related treachery.

    He has not.

    Whether or not he is at long last wising up to the JQ (or simply coming out of the closet) is an interesting question in its own right.

    Either way, a mere 2 months ago he was mocking infidels:

    “The Future of the Jews -
    More of the Past?”
    — (http://www.unz.com/freed/the-future-of-the-jews/ ]

    (Fred Reed, Unz; March 4, 2018)

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