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Being as I am a self-appointed explicator of thing s Latin to Americans curious about what lies to the south, and has come north, I occasionally and in a scattershot and prejudiced manner try to offer a picture of life below the border. There is more to the place than narcos and MS-13. If I lived in Thailand instead of Mexico, I wouldn’t. But Latin America matters to America today as Thailand does not. So here goes.

Trigger Waning: Republicans and Nordic populations may find this column unsettling. It contains disturbing color and some of the images show signs of having escaped from an acid trip. Proceed at your own risk.

Recently Vi and I were in Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas in southern Mexico and, wandering about in a sort of Brownian motion, found ourselves walking along a canal. We discovered a region frequented by grafiteros, street artists.These view unwatched walls as canvases, legal, semi-legal or just not policed. Using spray paint, they, well, paint. I suspect that the authorities fail to get into an uproar because the results leave the precincts more attractive than would bare walls. Vandalism it isn’t.

Anyway, I decided to shoot a few of them–that is, photograph the walls, not assassinate the grafiteros–and then, ideas exploding on me, to post some of them, along with links to such things Mexican and Latin-American as struck my fancy. It will not be well organized. It will, I hope, make the point that the southlands are not, musically, artistically, or culturally, as they are thought to be by many in the United States.

mwiallgirl

Spray-painted on someone’s back wall in Chiapas. Obviously the owner of the wall is not greatly upset since (a) the painting is still there and (b) it is difficult, though not impossible, to do something so elaborate without being noticed.

In Ajijic, where I live, on a wall along the malecón, a sort of cement boardwalk by the lake.

If you want to nuke Iran, this probably won’t appeal to you. Well, unless maybe you thought of it as Iran after being nuked. I liked it. But then, I don’t want to nuke Iran.

img_0454

Chiapas again. This would appear to be a kid with a rabbit, next to a purple river. Or something purple anyway. Many of these are painted by youngsters, sometimes teenagers.

Yours truly with, perhaps, the artist’s girlfriend. Slightly out of focus, but we will have to live with it. Others may disagree, but I think doing this freehand with spray paint is pretty cool.

mw1

Proof positive that Mexicans are crazy. They are also not too afraid of color, perhaps because they were never exposed to the leaden skies of Northern Europe that seem to have draped everything in earth tones.

Musically Mexico and Latin America are richly varied. Genres run from classical to Spansh rap, not as foul as American ghetto gunch but with the same rhythms. Not all Mexican music is awful banda blaring from tit bars full of drunken Marines in Tijuana. Here are a couple of things I like. They deserve better speakers than a laptop is likely to have.

Huapango, by José Pablo Moncayo. Orquesta Sinfónica Nacional, Mexico City, conducted by Alondra de la Parra.

Dnzón No. 2, by Arturo Marquez, with the Philharmonic Orchestra of the Americas also under the baton of de la Parra, who gets around. She is the only conductor I have seen who actually seems happy while at it.

mwmonkey

I’m not sure exactly what this is, but apparently it lives in trees.

Also in Ajijic, behind Farmácia Guadalajara. Paralleling Munch’s The Scream, it might well be entitled The Hangover.

This appears to be a womn contemplating the suckers on the arm of a very large octopus. It probably isn’t, though. Octopodes are rare in the mountains hereabouts.

The Camaleón, a bar in Ajijic, attracting a mixed crowd of Mexicans and gringos, running to oddballs. Are you surprised?

Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, El Matador. Actually Argentine, but I liked it so here it is anyway. Definitely not for the average banker: See trigger warning above. “Matador” north of the Rio Bravo means, reasonably enough, “bullfighter,” but the word literally means “killer,” and the song is a protest against the murder of a journalist. It is characterized by the soughing and low energy usual in Latin music.

That wraps up today’s dose of Penetrating Cultural Insight. I hope that at least will enjoy it, and feel Insighted.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I’ll also have to wait for real speakers to try out your music pick. There’s absolutely no bass coming through on this computer. However, as discussed on the Peak Stupidity blog, pretty much besides Nina and her 99 luft balloons, 99 % of good rock and pop was created in the English-speaking world. Mexico and, in fact, all of Latin American combined, could not make more decent rock music than the unknown musicians of ONE medium-sized American city.

    As far as graffiti goes, that’s decent art, but it’s on a wall. Over here, you will see it on freight trains – all over the hopper, gondola, and box cars. That is a true eyesore. If your selection is a true sample, then you’ve got us beat to hell on graffiti. Keep in mind that the MS-13 gangs are from your countries (along with the black guys that have done it for 50 years) . Can’t they stay down there and do art there, Fred? Are y’all running out of walls? We can rent you folks the rights to one side of a 1900-odd mile wall.

    Lastly, I think all those conductors, excuse me, Maestroes, could be easily replaced by 5 ft tall, cherry-wood-laminate, NiCad-powered, pneumatic robotic metronomes. Doing the jobs even Mexicans won’t do don’t need to be doing.

    • Replies: @streamfortyseven
  2. It’s pretty clear: Fred Reed loves white Mehico. The elite Mexico we see in all their leaders, journalists like blue-eyed Jorge Ramos and Salma Hayek. He’s basically a white nationalist — for Mexico. Naturally, like all Democrats he projects his vile impulses onto others.

    • Agree: TheBoom
  3. > Fred Reed loves white Mehico.

    That’s the thing. I actually have more respect for the illiterate indios the more I read about the technologies they developed and in many areas still use. They are arguably the best horticulturalists the world has ever known. Doesn’t mean I want to live anywhere near them. Good fences make good neighbors.

  4. Anonymous [AKA "wagondog"] says:

    Mexicn spray paint artists are amazingly talented. I have seen their work in TJ and also on a street in Miami. I watched the artist take a blank piece of paperboard and turn into a Dali-esque space scene in about 5 minutes. No need to look down on people. Since I have seen that type of art performed in more than one area by different people, all from Mexico, and have never seen an American do it, I surmise they probably have a significant innate ability. Whatever the case, I enjoy it.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Randy
  5. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    You can see this stuff all over LA.

  6. Brabantian says: • Website

    The ‘cute Latina girls in skimpy outfits in music videos’ theme as Fred Reed presents in ‘Matador’ above, is a good one … Pop music star Gustavo Leyton of Nicaragua does a very nice job with 10 bikini cuties in his ‘Vamos al Bacanal’, 4min.

  7. Giuseppe says:

    This appears to be a womn contemplating the suckers on the arm of a very large octopus. It probably isn’t, though. Octopodes are rare in the mountains hereabouts.

    They spotted cocodrilos in Lake Chapala, so octopodes may not be as rare as you think, I’ll be spending the week in Ajijic and I’ll definitely be on the lookout for both. On the other hand, maybe the painting really isn’t much more than an allegorical depiction of the deeply mystical connection of the female archetype to fertile land.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  8. DFH says:

    I find all of those paintings rather unpleasant to look at. On the other hand, I do recall seeing some nice graffiti in Valparaiso, so maybe Fred is simply not showing the Latin American graffiti world at its best.

  9. Hubbub says:

    …an allegorical depiction of the deeply mystical connection of the female archetype to fertile land.

    I bet the ears of corn gave it away.

  10. Huh. It’s like Mexico is this actually vibrant place with a thriving culture built by and for Mexicans. We can disabuse ourselves of the notion that Mexico is this awful prison where stupid, evil Americans keep all the Mexicans locked up.

    Why would anybody emigrate from Mexico? I’m guessing the thriving Mexicans are encouraging their excess helots to head north to go be someone else’s problem.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @hyperbola
  11. Why is it that this creative haven of vibrant artists has so damned many walls, often with glass embedded on top?

  12. Russia also has a great history of music, art and literature.

    And, it’s really a fucked up place. The Soviet Union really did impoverish everybody it didn’t execute, except for the party faithful.

    Something really terrible is going on in Mexico. Over 100,000 civilians have been murdered by either the government or the cartels, if there is any difference between the two. A third of the population has been driven to the U.S. by poverty.

    I don’t have any doubt that Mexico produces great music, art and literature.

    What’s your point, Fred?

  13. Yet another example of AP’s theory of Latin America/Eastern Europe convergence.

    Bulgaria

    [MORE]

    Poland

    Serbia

    Slovakia

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @Svigor
  14. KenH says:

    Who knew that Mexico was home to so many starving artists? Just think, if we ever get a wall instead of a chicken wire and bollard fence the Mexicans should have hundreds of miles of 40ft wall to decorate and make pretty. Fred and Vi can trek north to take pictures of all the art on their side of the border.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @TheBoom
  15. TheJester says:

    Fred, going forward, does this mean that you are asking us (the “gringos” with Northern European heritage) to accept psychedelic graffiti on our walls as the price for racial and cultural peace with our new Hispanic neighbors?

    I’m not sold, though. South of the border, Mexicans can do as they please. However, if I see any of this stuff in my community in Northern Virginia, I’m calling the police. Here, things like that are considered a criminal offense. There are consequences.

    Haven’t you heard about the “broken window” theory of urban decay? People see the kind of art you celebrate on walls and start bailing out of the community. It’s downhill from there. That’s why it is standard practice in our community to send out teams to immediately remove graffiti whenever and wherever it appears to keep the community appealing and presentable.

    I know … more uptight “gringos”. But, there is more. We have very strong community associations. They dictate the color of your house and the color of your shingles. If you deviate, you have to get permission from the association and your neighbors. The associations also have the power to force you to mow your lawn, clean up trash, and remove mold from your driveway.

    Yes, my son thinks we live in a “fascist” community. Fred, I’m sure you would agree … because not any of the art you showcased us would be allowed in our community or in any of the surrounding communities. “Fascist” communities? A strange thought. People are willing to pay a hefty premium to live here.

    Ironically, many of the Hispanic refugees from Mexico who live here agree that it’s a premium place to live. They consider this a “garden” paradise. They’ve told me you cannot find anything like this in Mexico. As a bonus, even the streets and paths through the greenways are safe.

  16. @TheJester

    The “graffiti” in Reed’s photos was obviously made with the consent of the property owners, obviously has some artistic merit, and is an improvement on bland concrete anyway.

    Outrage is better saved for e.g. Brussels, where the graffiti is either officially sanctioned Communist propaganda, or constitues vandalism of historical sites.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  17. TheJester says:

    Anatoly,

    I’m not outraged. It’s just that the art referenced by Fred in Mexico or you in Eastern Europe are not allowed in the urban communities of Northern Virginia … even with the consent of property owners. Try it without permission and, if your identity is known, you will be arrested. Try it with the permission of a property owner and it will be removed and the bill sent to the property owner. If the owner does not pay, the association will open a lean on the property. It’s all above board and in the association rules that one agrees to when one buys into the communities.

    These association-bounded communities are hard to avoid. They go for miles in every direction … with their own streets, swimming pools, greenways, paths, and athletic and community centers. The principle is what is good for the communities, not the individual rights of those who live in the communities.

    BTW: The communities are democracies. Association representatives are elected by the property owners. Policies are defeasible in open forums. The associations are managed by professional (and often certified) association managers. Policies are monitored and executed by committees staffed by community volunteers, i.e. architecture, finance, community centers, etc.

    The above focus is on residential properties. The situation for commercial property is no different. Instead of the associations, the county planning boards role in with their standards and powers of enforcements.

    This is not Mexico!

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  18. Love the article. Thanks mucho! Definitely put Los Fabulosos Cadillacs on my musical radar — same with the two composers. As a teacher in the US, I noticed that my Mexican students were often very artistic — I see that it is a national characteristic — going back to the glyphs of Mayan and Aztec time!
    I appreciate your perspective and attempt to show the positive as opposed to the negative we often are exposed to here. I remember in my mother’s day, people were positively interested in Mexican culture.

  19. @Anatoly Karlin

    We have our very own enormously talented Mayan Ph.D. candidates in the States who are wonderful graffiti artistas.

    Meet UNC-CH’s Maya Little:

    http://cwmemory.com/2018/05/02/blood-on-the-confederate-monument/

  20. I enjoyed this article.

  21. MEH 0910 says:

    This appears to be a womn contemplating the suckers on the arm of a very large octopus.

    Fred, you’ve been perusing too much tentacle porn.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  22. Rogue says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Prefer your pics to Fred’s.

    They’re really good.

  23. @Giuseppe

    the painting really isn’t much more than an allegorical depiction of the deeply mystical connection of the female archetype to fertile land

    Er, no. Not “fertile land”, but fertility itself. It’s a pregnant, indeed archetypal, woman framed by stylized ears of corn — the staff of life in Mexico. Nicely done, but not Degas.

    • Replies: @Giuseppe
  24. Fred, the mexicans can paint all the walls and buildings they want. They can sing all the songs they want of bikinis and beer. They can be white, European, mestizo and black. They can be cultured, vibrant, one-with-the-land-and-God, philosophical, church-going, child-loving, humane protectors of the environment. And so on, and so on, and so on …

    IN MEXICO!!!!

  25. macilrae says:

    In the concerts, why are the audiences so hushed? – We are missing the (usually) large persons who must needs grace a performance with their deeply cultural Presence and so wish to be noticed through their abundant and hearty coughs …

    It’s why I hardly go to concerts these days – but these are great, especially the second.

    Altogether very refreshing, Fred.

  26. @MEH 0910

    “You called it ‘corn’!! We called it ‘maize’!” she would gush.

    And all the guys in the barracks TV room would yell “Sit on my faize!”

  27. @KenH

    I have always felt that if the wall is ever built, it ought to be a kind of tourist attraction with artwork, exhibits, restaurants, viewing points, helicopter tours, and so on. That would be the American way of doing things.

  28. Renoman says:

    Sure does make the so called street art around here look like crap! PEI Canada.

  29. Giuseppe says:
    @manorchurch

    It’s not Degas because he prefered to paint ballet dancers on the walls of churches in Montmartre.

  30. TheBoom says:
    @KenH

    Don’t think if it as a wall separating people. Think of it as a blank canvas enabling vibrant Mexican artists to showcase their talents.

  31. TheBoom says:

    Too bad that all those artistically vibrant Mexicans have never been able to create a country they, their fans and patrons actually want to live in. Instead they want to move to the US, if provided the opportunity, where they can prosper while spewing hate at the whites who have built the type of country in which they would actually want to live.

  32. Wow, some Mexican painted some psychadelic mural (horrifically outdated, right out of the 1960’s). Let’s import 10 million of them! Nay, 100 million!

    America – nation of immigrants, nation of mural painters. Open up those borders!

  33. Truth says:

    Alfredo, Old Sport, you’ve done it again!

    • Replies: @Anon
  34. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Done what?

    Btw, Fred fails to mention that blacks do competent graffiti too:

    But Karlin’s Eastern Europe stuff takes the cake.

    • Replies: @Truth
  35. Calling graffiti art is like calling the feminist EEOC placeholders at CalTech fine engineers. The elevation of those who are ‘less than’ just never ends. Merit is just dead. It means nothing. Celebrate the ‘less than’. Fred’s kookie.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  36. @Jim Christian

    Calling graffiti art is like calling the feminist EEOC placeholders at CalTech fine engineers.

    I feel much the same way about classical music — Bach in particular. Who the fuck said THAT shit was music? I don’t like it, so it sucks.

    The “graffiti art” looks like art to me, so it is. Not the best of art, but art. You seem like an ignorant, opinionated, screechy dumbass. So you are.

  37. Giuseppe says:

    https://ibb.co/nn5xY8

    More wall art from Ajijic. Possibly an octopode mermaid inhabiting Lake Chapala.

  38. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Oh, of course, our inner city murals are on par with anyone’s…

    http://www.innercityhues.com/project-01/

    http://www.jenhearnphotography.com/blog/2016/4/walt-neil-project--inner-city-murals

    http://www.coreybarksdale.com/survey.html

    But this is to what I a was referring…

    Trigger Waning: Republicans and Nordic populations may find this column unsettling.

    Fred stuck it to those conservative, evil, white RAYCISSES again!

    • Replies: @Svigor
  39. Galleries serve 3 major functions:

    1. To separate the art from the general population for reasons of public safety
    2. To give the art an opportunity to reflect on its misdeeds and seek a more productive path
    3. To maintain social stability by deterring others from committing similar arts

    Unfortunately, our galleries are dangerously overcrowded, and our revolving door art school policies virtually ensure that art such as the above examples will continue to increase for the foreseeable future.

  40. Biff says:
    @TheJester

    Yes, my son thinks we live in a “fascist” community.

    Because your son is smarter than you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and HOA’s are ugly for their blandness, and awful to live in because of pricks like you forcing your ideas on too others.

    Literally, the reason I left the fascist north for the colorful south.

  41. Thomm says:

    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

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  42. Wally says:

    I suspect that if we saw the painters of the murals, most by far would be euro-white.

    And guess what. The conductors pictured are, yep, euro-white.

    And have a look at the Mexican Congress:

  43. Again, excellent. American ‘Nordics and Republicans’ should chill out, miscegenate themselves into oblivion and give the world a break.

    • Replies: @bomag
  44. Svigor says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    A lot of Slavic art has highly saturated colors, perhaps because a lot of it is more recent than art from other traditions.

    IIRC, many of the colors in European art have faded over the centuries, but I wouldn’t expect a Mexican to know that.

  45. bomag says:
    @Thomm

    So 70 IQ WNs live rent free in your head.

    Got it.

    Is it because they are your competition; or is it because they are less likely to suppress their noticing of uncomfortable truths?

    • Replies: @Thomm
  46. bomag says:
    @quasi_verbatim

    …miscegenate themselves into oblivion and give the world a break.

    LOL

    Trouble is, the rest of the world follows and copies, and expects the Nordic and Republicans to keep the lights on.

  47. Porter says:

    My neighbors draw really pretty pictures. So you should move their family into your home. Thanks for reading.

  48. Joe862 says:

    I’m sick of this endless latino fetish. They already have a couple dozen countries in the new world and they’re coming here because they’re the ones who are white supremacists. They don’t want to live someplace populated and run by latinos because they know what it’s like.

    I saw an article a few months back that showed that latinos that are born in the US have the highest divorce rate of any race. The “family oriented” reputation doesn’t survive long at all. They have the fattest children, even fatter than blacks, and the overall obesity rate is sky high. It doesn’t appear that they’re adapting very well. They ruin the schools. Anywhere there are a lot of latinos the schools go to pot because they don’t pass the proficiency tests. They’re typically slightly better than blacks but much closer to blacks than they are to whites or asians.

    Do we really want millions of single-parented, uneducated, obese, drug-addled latinos running around? We can’t figure out what to do with our own dysfunctional working class. I’d be more charitable but they’re prejudiced against whites and they don’t seem to think that they need to follow the laws. This is demonstrated by their support of illegals among other things. Many of them don’t learn the language, at least not in any hurry.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @hyperbola
  49. it matters not a lick if Mexico is a latin paradise. To visit the US they must come via the legal mechanisms . . . .

    How about that law and order . . . so touted —

    Build the wall — mines included.

  50. Mike Tre [AKA "MikeatMikedotMike"] says:
    @Joe862

    “Do we really want millions of single-parented, uneducated, obese, drug-addled latinos running around? ”

    Fred sure doesn’t. Why do you think he wants them to come to the US?

  51. @Thomm

    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    So, what’s your bag, Thommy? Is it nationalism you hate so intensely, or is it white people?

    Racism being how racism is — more intense in the non-white populations than the white — I’m guessing it’s white people you hate. And you only hate nationalism until you take over a white nation and make it, er, rainbow-colored.

    Stupidity reigns, and you are division champion.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  52. Who can forget Wendy Sulca and her smash hit “La Tetita”

    The gist of the song is that all the kids love mama’s lactating tits. This song was a huge hit in Mexico a little while back. Enjoy.

    • Replies: @Giuseppe
  53. Here’s a counterexample, Fred.

    Last week I was out doing an inspection for the department of the federal government for which I work, when I saw something that encapsulated for me the entire fin de siecle mood here in America and signaled the approaching trial of Western civilization that will judge whether it is still worthy to exist.

    Somebody had tagged up the sidewalk, Mexican mafioso-style, with dog shit. Apparently some dog had taken a rather large dump on the sidewalk. The fact that the dog owner didn’t bother to clean it up is itself a serious symptom of decline, but when you add to that the fact that another person—or perhaps the very same owner, I don’t know—decided to execute a piece of gangland graffiti in this fecal medium really blows the mind. He must have taken a stick or something and patiently dragged it through the shit until he produced an 8-foot long example of that typical Cholo script which looks like Jackson Pollack making an attempt at Sanskrit calligraphy.

    This is a true story, and I have absolutely no desire to bomb Iran.

    • Replies: @Alden
  54. I love old Fred, but he needs to realize that Mexico – while certainly an important Latin American country – is in most respects atypical of the region. Its obsession with a largely mythical “Aztec” past is one sign of this, as is its barely concealed hatred of the United States. True, anti-gringo sentiments can be found in all Latin American countries but in none of them does this feeling even approach Mexican standards of irrational loathing. Most Latin Americans are not obsessed with the U.S. and treat us like the weather, sometimes good, sometimes bad, but always there. Mexicans are rather unpopular in much of Latin America for various reasons. One reason is their ambition to speak for the region, a role most Latin Americans do not accept. It is notable that Colombia, the largest (by population) Spanish-speaking country in Latin America after Mexico, is hardly a hotbed of anti-gringo sentiment, even considering long ago disputes with the U.S., such as the separation of Panama. Cuba is probably the most pro-U.S. country in Latin America, if you leave out the 5-10 percent of the population stupid enough to actually swallow the Marxist/Castro twaddle. I have spent more than 30 years in Latin America and can count on my fingers how many incidents of anti-Yankeeism I have encountered. Learn the language, be respectful and friendly, avoid personal involvement in local issues, and you will be given a warm reception everywhere.

  55. Mexicans doing the vandalism Americans won’t do?

    Before I read this I did’t want America to become Mexico. That hasn’t changed. LatinX graffiti is not an argument.

    • Replies: @manorchurch
  56. hyperbola says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Keep in mind that many of the “emigrants” are not Mexicans at all. Then think about who produced the first several million refugees from Central America. The remember that the same sect is the sponsor of most of the refugees flooding Europe. You seem easy to lead around by divide and conquer.

    How Neocons Destabilized Europe
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/07/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/
    …. When I first encountered the neocons in the 1980s, they had been given Central America to play with. President Ronald Reagan had credentialed many of them, bringing into the U.S. government neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams and Robert Kagan. But Reagan mostly kept them out of the big-power realms: the Mideast and Europe.

    Those strategic areas went to the “adults,” people like James Baker, George Shultz, Philip Habib and Brent Scowcroft. The poor Central Americans, as they tried to shed generations of repression and backwardness imposed by brutal right-wing oligarchies, faced U.S. neocon ideologues who unleashed death squads and even genocide against peasants, students and workers.

    The result not surprisingly was a flood of refugees, especially from El Salvador and Guatemala, northward to the United States. The neocon “success” in the 1980s, crushing progressive social movements and reinforcing the oligarchic controls, left most countries of Central America in the grip of corrupt regimes and crime syndicates, periodically driving more waves of what Reagan called “feet people” through Mexico to the southern U.S. border…….

    The Weaponisation of the Refugee
    Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe (Part 2 of an 11 Part Series)
    https://dissidentvoice.org/2016/01/the-weaponisation-of-the-refugee/

    Rothschild’s “Slaughter Ships”
    Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe (Part 4 of an 11 Part Series)
    https://dissidentvoice.org/2016/01/rothschilds-slaughter-ships/
    …. Austrian intelligence officials have reportedly revealed that US government agencies are paying for the transport of migrants to Europe…..

    • Replies: @dcite
  57. hyperbola says:
    @Joe862

    Seems that divorice is about three times higher in the US than in Mexico. Can we then conclude that if your claim is right, the US has a very bad influence on divorice?

    Divorce statistics by country
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography

    Country Crude marriage rate Crude divorce rate % Divorce:marriage ratio Data Source Year
    United States 6.9 3.2 46 (2014)[25]
    Mexico 5.2 0.8 15 (2009)[4][5]

    Guatemala 3.8 0.2 5 (2008)[4][5]
    Nicaragua 4.5 0.8 18 (2005)[11]

    • Replies: @Joe862
  58. @RebelWriter

    LatinX graffiti is not an argument.

    I also found Reed’s suggestion of graffiti art as supportive of the desirability of illegal alien invasion to be more than a trifle absurd. What, we need wall-painters with spray-cans to overload our schools with non-English-speaking children — fed, housed, clothed and educated at taxpayer expense? And we gain lurid pictures in garish colors on exposed masonry walls?

    This is a good thing?

    Please to demonstrate the advantages, senor.

  59. Who needs walls and spray paint for vibrant Mexican folk art?
    Not these guys.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mexican+gang+tatoos&t=brave&iax=images&ia=images

  60. Thomm says:
    @bomag

    False. WN wiggers like you just comprise waste matter that nature is purging. I just enjoy watching the process like one might enjoy a bunch of locusts get snapped up by birds.

    You don’t ‘notice’ anything. You are just in denial that you are waste matter, and that successful whites always keep you out of polite society.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @bomag
  61. Joe862 says:
    @hyperbola

    Yes, of course. We have a lot of social problems of our own. The last thing we need is millions of immigrants from poor countries who won’t be anywhere near ready to handle the temptations and frequently messed up values of the USA.

    • Replies: @hyperbola
  62. Ah, there we go again, all hysterical about them illegals, obese Latinos, the need to have a wall complete with landmines, etc. etc. Look guys, we are supposed to be a bright and reasonably open-minded bunch here. Surely, we can hold the position “No illegals” without cultivating scorn and hate for others. Fred’s stock on this site goes down in proportion to the articles he writes showing some interesting facts about the folks south of the border. I realize that many bright folks here may not ever, ever wish to travel to Mexico, but no harm in enjoying Fred’s well-written travelogues. BTW, Mexico does in fact make some good beer (Corona) and some fairly potent tequila. Nice change from the usual Buds and Bourbon. I do hope that the Coronas and Tequila will figure out a way to jump over the wall if and when it comes up.

    • Replies: @Joe862
  63. Lupillo Rivera’s drunk act is very amusing, though I think he lives and records his music in Long Beach, California.

  64. Anonymous [AKA "mechanoid"] says:

    “This appears to be a womn contemplating the suckers on the arm of a very large octopus.”

    No, not an octopus. That is mother maize.

  65. @TheJester

    They’ve told me you cannot find anything like this in Mexico.

    Man, its like saying, while walking in my neighborhood here in AZ, ‘ You can’t find anything like this in Mexico’. Who are you kidding? I am aware that most ‘refugees’ from Mexico, are mostly illiterate and thrive here in the States because you don’t need a college degree to work construction, landscaping, etc. I have lived in Mexico, and find it very nice, and safe. As a matter of fact, after retiring from military service, I retired in Mexico, and find it a very nice place, to live, and enjoy. Your comments are disregarded, since I am sure you are not familiar with the interior of Mexico, and are familiar, only with your Virginia-local area; enough said.

    We have very strong community associations.

    So do in AZ, and so what? our homes look alike, and are well trimmed, and well kept. Our HOA does not even bother us, because our community keeps things well kept. However, we love our HOA, in my community, the president is my neighbor across the street. Nothing out of the ordinary, it seems that in your area, you do have Lenin in charge! Forcing you to do all those things, who wants to live in an oppressive area like that! Probably you people don’t know better!.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  66. @Thomm

    Why in the hell did you give away Ron Unz’s 4-dimensional chess plan, Thomm? And to think it was working splendidly [clasps fingers together and twirls thumbs around one another], if hadn’t been for you meddling retards!

    Ron, is there some way to retroactively moderate this loose-lipped commenter gone rogue? He’s messing up the plan, and we’re gonna have to revert to plan B: 2-D Checkers.

    Loose lips sink ships, Thomm, and your lips are looser than the lips on a 50 year-old Thai hooker.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  67. Give the Latino “artists” a break. True, it is hard to read what they have spray painted on the sides of trains, but when you consider the trains were going pretty fast when the “artists” spray painted them, that does show some talent. Or something…

  68. I am always impressed by artistic talent since I don’t have any. I have a little musical talent but that too is something that knows no cultural boundaries as far as I can tell. (My laptop feeds my B&Ws so I heard the music clearly.) I am somewhat skeptical about the ability of IQ tests to measure across languages. Also, a lot of intelligence occurs below the level of consciousness. Consider a jump shot. If you gave me LeBron James’ body I still might be unable to make a jump shot. The brain has to do a lot of work coordinating all the body parts to suit the changing geometric facts including the proximity of defenders and the various options for dealing with them. If you tried to write it out as an algorithm it would be pretty complicated, to make an understatement. Whitehead used to say that the stuff we actually think about is necessarily a tiny fraction of the stuff we do intelligently. If you look at intelligence that way, maybe those tests are not so informative.

    The problem with south of the border is that most of the people there are not of European descent and those who are are mostly Spanish, which means a relatively violent culture. (Google La Violencia). I like their sexism, Catholicism, and machismo, but dislike the disposition to violence and erratic behavior. But they have a fair number of Jews, who bring culture and probably run the place.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Joe862
  69. I wanted to say thanks to Mr. Reed for this interesting feature with the many wonderful photographs and the musical excerpts. It’s always good to study up on people before you go too far toward attacking them.

    I’m still in favor of building The Wall but I admit that in many respects Latins are more appealing than the American ruling class and our Ivy Leaguers!

    When I lived in DC I noticed that I never felt nervous around the Latinos, and indeed it seems that they commit hardly any of the muggings in the Northwest quadrant. It would be nice if they learned English, though!

  70. Svigor says:
    @Thomm

    None of this is going to make your WOG country any less shitty, or improve WOGs beyond human refuse status.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  71. Svigor says:
    @Truth

    Fred is in his proper home.

  72. Svigor says:
    @Thomm

    You’re a mentally defective WOG, so you’re actually unaware of how creepy and, well, mentally defective you seem to Whites.

    Or maybe you’re aware, and this is your therapy.

  73. Joe862 says:
    @seeing-thru

    Their affinity for sneaking in illegally, the support the illegals get from the wider latino community, and their prejudice against white people cultivates the scorn. They’re ridiculous.

  74. Svigor says:
    @jack daniels

    Yeah, the genius of bouncing a giant clownish orange ball constantly, breaking only to throw it to another clown, or through a hoop; where would mankind be without it?

    Basketball looks like something invented by Bozo.

  75. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    ‘Svigor’ actually rhymes with Wigger, which is appropriate because that is what you are.

    You keep imagining that I am Indian. You think Thorfinsson is Indian too. Can you go a single day without advertising that you are just the waste matter that evolution wants to expel from the white race, and that successful whites (like me) consider you to be nothing more than garbage?

    Can you go a single day without advertising your 70 IQ?

    And Swigger, Russia is not a first world country by any stretch. Above and beyond that, it is must be tough to be a homosexual in Russia, so you certainly have bigger problems than we Americans do.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Joe862
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  76. Thomm says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Why in the hell did you give away Ron Unz’s 4-dimensional chess plan, Thomm?

    Because it is quite obvious to anyone of average intelligence, but to 70-IQ WN wiggers, it effectively qualifies as 4D chess.

    My original comment itself explains why being open about does not harm the mission.

    You are greatly overrating the intelligence of WN wiggers. Don’t give them that much credit.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  77. Joe862 says:
    @jack daniels

    You’re being silly. You might as well just start calling IQ tests athleticism tests. Then we’d have a whole different idea of which groups are athletic and which aren’t.

  78. Randy says:
    @Anonymous

    You are missing the point. Fred here is looking down on white people.

    • Replies: @Joe862
    , @Truth
  79. Joe862 says:
    @Thomm

    Your hanging around here and saying the same thing over and over and over is just a sign of mental problems.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  80. Joe862 says:
    @Randy

    It’s very common among brainiacs. They’re mad their talents weren’t properly appreciated by the masses of whatever tribe they come from so they pretend some other group is great out of spite.

  81. @Thomm

    Your intelligence failed to detect his sarcasm. Also, you’re not popular with women. You creep them out.

    • Replies: @Alden
  82. Thomm says:
    @Joe862

    It is not the same thing. There are always new commenters, plus it is the central mission of this site.

    Get a clue.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  83. Alden says:
    @TheJester

    Nothing wrong with a gated community where the neighbors can dictate exactly what shade of beige or white you can paint your house.

    And nothing wrong with having someone paint a beautiful blazing colorful mural on a blank concrete wall either.

  84. Alden says:
    @TheJester

    I’m an ultra WASP just like you.

    I hate hate hate white walls, beige carpet mud green muddy gray beige beige beige couches and chairs and all the drab drab yucky colors the American furniture industry has inflicted on us. Beige is bad gray is bad but the mud colors of brownish gray and mud green are just unspeakable

    Who decided that the only way to get upholstered furniture in a pretty color is to pay thousands of dollars for $300 a yard to the trade only fabric?????

    Ever gone to a retail upholstery shop and looked at the disgusting samples they show you? There they are, 300 shades of mud beige. Even bedspread come in nothing but gray beige and mud nowadays.

    You see a lot more color in British and German homes and furniture stores than you do in beige White and mud American homes and furniture stores
    They use a lot of red too.

    I like color. Not one wall in my house is White except the laundry room. There is not one not one thing in my house that is gray beige or any mud color.

    If I have to pay $200 a yard for fabric that isn’t the color of mud, so be it.

    N. Virginia huh? The early colonials didn’t paint their walls White and cover their furniture in mud colors.

    I don’t like the outside walls of houses in color because I like lots of flowers and gray and White are the best colors if you have lots of flowers. But if gray it should be a pale pure gray, not the popular ubiquitous mud gray

    • Agree: Giuseppe
  85. Alden says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Who wants to date an Indian who lives in the garden shed of his uncles house in Cupertino ca and shares 2 bathrooms the 25. other relatives who live in the 3 bedroom house?

  86. Alden says:

    Those things that look like octopus suckers are black corn cobs with yellow kernels it takes a long look to see it.

  87. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    If an Indian on call coder who lives in his uncle’s garden shed is successful.

  88. Alden says:
    @in the middle

    There’s a HOA in Orange County Ca that has a rule that the houses be painted beige with brown trim.

    It also has the rule that the home owner must have the exact shade of beige approved before he can paint his house.

    So a homeowner had his beige paint sample approved. He bought the paint and had the house painted.

    BUT

    When a color is spread all over a wall or a floor the way the eye sees the color changes from the way the eye sees the color sample

    So this guys beige house looked different, lighter or darker or something from the approved sample.

    The HOA demanded he paint the house all over again in another shade of beige. He didn’t want to spend more money and refused. So he and the HOA sued each other. Don’t know how it came out.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  89. @Thomm

    Sweet Jesus. You are an imbecile. Plus, women don’t like you.

  90. Giuseppe says:
    @Linda Green

    Since formula-fed babies are subject to lifetime chronic disease, obesity, increased allergies and other health concerns, why not sing about breast feeding?

  91. @Alden

    Man, I had no idea that this website was all about interior decorating.

    I was under the impression that unz was a site for trading Live Dead videos. Hell, I’ve been wrong before.

    • Replies: @Alden
  92. Alden says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The person who go the stick and dragged the poop around is probably a leash law pooper scooper anti idiot dog owner activist.

    Pooper scoopers leash laws and clean up after one’s dog are fairly recent laws.

    Before that there was dog poop all over especially in suburbs as people just let their big mutts out to run all over the neighborhood and poop at will.

    The Whiter and richer the suburb, the more resistance there is to leash laws control your dog and clean up after it laws.

  93. Alden says:

    One thing Mexicans do is paint the walls of the interior medium shades of pure colors. It’s very pretty. It’s great for people who don’t have much money for nice furniture. The pretty walls take the eyes away from the shabby sparse furniture

    I liked all those colorful murals.

  94. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I have strong opinions about certain things. It’s my opinion is that the white and beige scheme is caused by poverty created by wage stagnation for the last 45 years which is caused by immigration.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  95. Alden says:
    @in the middle

    I’m pretty sure HOAs make people take their garbage cans in and hide them in the garage. That’s good.

  96. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    Russia’s a lot more civilized than India. For instance people use toilets, not the streets or vegetable fields.

    And cows live in fields where their manure fertilizes the fields instead of dumping manure all over the city streets.

  97. Alden says:
    @TheJester

    Greatest good for the greatest number. Sounds like socialism or even communism to me.

    Does your HOA regulate the type and color of flowers you have in your front and back gardens? Are you even allowed flowers?

  98. @Alden

    I second the 2nd part of your strong opinion, Mrs 257, i.e. the 2nd cause and effect – large-scale immigration caused wage stagnation.

    However, HOW MUCH DOES A GALLON OF INTERIOR LATEX COST?

    (Yeah, that was a rhetorical question – I know you can get some for $25/gallon.)

    Buy a roller handle, some roller heads brushes and cups, and you can paint the interior for $250 tops, with all different colors. Been there, done that, it helps to be single … in picking the colors that is – one room-renter insisted on painting all the trim, windows, windowsills, and molding glossy black!

  99. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester

    Thanks for the update from the VSFSR.

  100. bomag says:
    @Thomm

    When my people are gone, they will be missed by those with the ability to remember.

    Nobody copies what your people create; nobody wants to move to the societies you build.

    Nobody wants you around; nobody will miss you when you are gone.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  101. Thomm says:
    @bomag

    My people are white Americans.

    You are not the same race as successful whites. You are the waste matter that collects as the rest of us get better and better. You serve as a carrier to remove the waste matter. That explains your 70 IQ and your homosexuality.

    You are effectively the feces of evolution. Other races don’t have as efficient of a waste disposal mechanism, but we do. If WN wiggers like you were given your own country, it would quickly become worse than Haiti.

    Quit taking credit for the success of the rest of us. You are a defective subrace of the white race, not an upstanding member. That is why successful whites like me make sure you are not welcome in polite society. Successful whites will never befriend you.

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @bomag
  102. Mike Tre [AKA "MikeatMikedotMike"] says:
    @Thomm

    So just to clarify before I relegate you to the Bill Maher shelf in my brain’s troll cabinet: Anyone who disagrees with you is a “white trashionalist” and you’re one of the gudwhites who flexes your mental superiority with 4th grade level pejoratives.

    Or, you’re just another self-loathing cuck who specializes in projection.

    “Heh heh, hoh hoh, heeh teeh heeh.” -Thomm, after mercilessly toying with the feeble minds of white people who dare not hate themselves properly.

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Truth
  103. @streamfortyseven

    Metal, pssshaaawww… I doubt a one of them is as good as Nina and her 99 Luft Balloons.

    Can they write a song like this guy?:

    • Replies: @Anon
  104. Now for some music by an ALL AMERICAN BAND, I present a song that’s been in my head since I read Fred’s column title.

    It’s not the “Mexican Wall Blues”, but the “Mexicali Blues” (across the border, while the California side has Calexico.):

    This one has a Mexican flavor to it. It was written by the recently-late John Perry Barlow, and is sung by Bobby Weir. Put down your horns and accordions, beaners, and listen to the All American Grateful Dead, the like of which were never experienced before and never will be again:

    • Replies: @anonymous
  105. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t know, but Spaniards produced the most un-PC combination of song title and artist ever:

  106. Truth says:
    @Randy

    LMFAO!

    …Ya think?!?!

  107. Truth says:
    @Mike Tre

    Guys, please, it’s one in the morning. This last round of posts has me laughing too M-F hard to go to sleep.

  108. bomag says:
    @Thomm

    Faggotry is a noble thing in your world, so thanks for the compliment, I guess.

    You are comfortable trashing lower class Whites: narcissism of small differences, and all that. But insofar as the demographics of the modern world results in filling the niche with 70 IQ people, it is not in your self interest to fill it with 70 IQ non-whites.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  109. hyperbola says:
    @Joe862

    Actually latinos tend to be hard-working, religious, family-oriented people. They might actually raise the values of the USA.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Joe862
  110. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @hyperbola

    It seems unlikely, unfortunately, at least if the figures linked below are correct. Hispanics seem either to assimilate depressingly well to the lower end of our cultural spectrum, or to come from the lower ends of their native cultural spectra.

    https://cis.org/Camarota/Births-Unmarried-Mothers-Nativity-and-Education

  111. Thomm says:
    @bomag

    You are comfortable trashing lower class Whites:

    Not lower-class as measured by income, you idiot. Many lower-class whites are not racists or feminists.

    The defective subrace that you represent can be borne even of upper-class parents. The scientific fact is that the excellence of the top 80% (that I represent) manifests because all the defective genes precipitate into the bottom 20%. The men become WN wiggers like you. The women become fat bluehaired feminists.

    This has been explained to you countless times, but since your IQ is only 70, you fail to grasp it. That is why the term ‘wigger’ is appropriate in your case.

    You are the waste matter that the rest of us expel.

  112. Joe862 says:
    @hyperbola

    As Anon has shown, no they’re not. If what you’re saying were true they wouldn’t be moving here to do the worst jobs and live 15 to an apartment. All of the real evidence points to the bulk of them being primitive and dim while the elites are primarily selfish exploiters who don’t care how bad the typical citizen has it. I don’t think most of them are really capable of adapting to the US. They become brown white trash almost immediately. If anything, we should be sending some US bureaucrats down to run their countries. They clearly can’t manage their own affairs and the solution is to improve their countries rather than allow them to ruin ours.

    • Replies: @hyperbola
  113. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    Not lower-class as measured by income, you idiot. Many lower-class whites are not racists or feminists.

    Hey, I have a question; does being anti-black make a white person a “racist”, or is that just for whites who are anti-Khazar, Hispanic, Asian, etc?

    • Replies: @Anon
  114. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    whites who are anti-Khazar

    What about whites who are anti-Hazare?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Hazare

  115. bomag says:
    @Thomm

    You mad, bro?

    You are anxious to cut out the ones you hate in a quest for some sort of purity; but the cohort you want to erase will be back filled by people who offer far less support and sustenance.

    You don’t know what the battle’s about, or how to win.

  116. MacNucc11 says:
    @Thomm

    I just want to know how a WN is a wigger? The way I see it nationalism was a liberal plan that came out of the French Revolution and that led to internationalism and then globalism and communism. Not necessarily in that order. All suck but you have to start somewhere. What most of us realize though is that we have no republic but when some politician decides we are supposed to rally round the flag like good drones. Abe Lincoln who wanted to deport blacks to foreign countries was a white nationalist. I would hardly refer to him as a wigger though, as he had no desire to be black. The Confederacy did not look to secede to create a white nation. Free blacks fought on the side of the confederacy. What I would like to see is numerous secession movements resulting in a return to representative governments. Just to be free of the SCOTUS would be a huge benefit.

    • Replies: @Truth
  117. MacNucc11 says:
    @Thomm

    This is the most incoherent and silly thing I have yet seen posted on UR. What are you basing your 80% and 20% on? So the upper class in this country is 80% of the population and within that group there are no racists or feminists? Or is it racists and feminists? So racism and feminism are roughly equivalent or they both just occupy the same lower 20% of the population based on that they are either racist and feminist or possibly racist or feminist? How do you define racist? How do you define feminist?

  118. Truth says:
    @MacNucc11

    Abe Lincoln who wanted to deport blacks to foreign countries was a white nationalist. I would hardly refer to him as a wigger though, as he had no desire to be black.

    Funny you should mention that…

  119. MacNucc11 says:

    Bummer, video is not coming through.

  120. hyperbola says:
    @Joe862

    Many come from countries that had universities a century before the first university in the US.

    National Autonomous University of Mexico
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/National-Autonomous-University-of-Mexico
    National Autonomous University of Mexico, Spanish Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM), government-financed coeducational institution of higher education in Mexico City, founded in 1551….. The university has faculties of accounting and business administration, architecture, chemistry, dentistry, economics, engineering, law, medicine, philosophy and letters, political and social sciences, professional studies, psychology, sciences, and veterinary medicine and zoology. …..

    You might want to educate yourself a bit about a university that ranks roughly 100 in the world and offers courses in many areas of science and technology, even online courses.

    Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
    Cursos y programas especializados
    https://www.coursera.org/unam

    In fact, nowadays UNAM even has campuses/courses in the USA.

    UNAM in Chicago, Illinois
    http://www.chicago.unam.mx/index.php
    Welcome to the National Autonomous University of Mexico in Chicago. This Campus, dependent of the Center for Foreign Students (CEPE), was founded in 2001 with the mission of extending UNAM’s academic programs and services to institutions, groups and individuals associated with or interested in its educational and cultural endeavors, while working to promote a better understanding of Mexico and the United States.

    • Replies: @Joe862
  121. Joe862 says:
    @hyperbola

    You don’t have to look far to find the catastrophic problems with education in Mexico. The root of the problem appears to be corruption. Big surprise. It isn’t that hard to understand but for whatever reason huge swaths of humanity don’t appreciate the value of honesty. They need tough love. Dishonesty is obviously far too socially acceptable and they need to figure out how to solve that problem. It isn’t whitey’s responsibility to subsidize them by bringing them here to mow lawns so they can continue on in corrupt dysfunction.

    “Mexico ranks last in education among the 35 Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries. Mexican children leave school with the worst literacy, maths and science skills, with around half failing to meet the most basic standards. The poorest children in Vietnam outperform the most privileged in Mexico.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/aug/15/the-help-never-lasts-why-has-mexicos-education-revolution-failed

  122. dcite says:
    @hyperbola

    Read the Devil’s Chessboard, bio of Allan Dulles, by David Talbot. Even if you think you know, it’s shocking, sickening and profoundly criminal what the CIA did in Latin America. As an American, I wouldn’t want people doing that stuff in my name even if it does make a lot of money for fruit growers and gives us cheaper bananas. While I sort of believed those pamphlets and papers they were handing out in the 1980s showing how the “U.S.” (CIA) participated in bloodshed in Central America, with little cartoon drawings of tiny dead children, I didn’t want to know the details. Now I do.
    Even in those days, JFK wasn’t the only one who wanted to blow that organization into a 1,000 pieces.

  123. anon111 says:

    fred offers free advice to Americans from his roost there in mejico

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  127. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Some of the art is pretty good, much better than the garbage that Mexicans and Negroes spray paint on trains. Some of these people could make a living as artists.

  128. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Very boring song as with everything I’ve ever heard the Greatful Dead do. I guess you need to be on acid to appreciate it. Now CCR, there was a band!

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