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In pondering Washington’s new toy, a cold war against China, one sees a pattern. China’s approach to influence and prosperity is commercial and longsighted. This does not mean that the Chinese are warm and fuzzy, only intelligent. They advance their interests while turning a profit, which wars don’t. China invests heavily in the infrastructure, both physical and educational, that makes for current and future competitiveness. They are fast, agile, innovative, and imperfectly scrupulous. They seek trade agreements: The Comprehensive Agreement on Investment with Europe, The RCEP, Regional comprehensive Economic Partnership, the CPEC, China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, the huge Iran deal, the development with Russia of the NSR, the Northern Sea Route. They seem good at it, China now being the largest trading partner of something like 165 countries.

Washington’s approach is military, coercive, shortsighted, and commercially dimwitted. It forms military alliances: the Quad in the Indian Ocean, with Japan against China, puts missiles in South Korea, pushes Europe to buy more American weaponry, sends naval forces to the Indian Ocean, Taiwan Strait, South China Sea, Black Sea, and Persian Gulf to intimidate, without much success, China, Russia, and Iran. It wants to get the Ukraine and Georgia into NATO to threaten Russia. It makes as much sense as lug nuts on a birthday cake.

China’s major capital expenditures, as gleaned as best I can from pubs covering these: highways, dams, bridges, very-high-voltage power lines, airports, rail, new high-tech 360 mph rail, five-g implementation, reactors, and semiconductor catchup.

America’s major capital expenditures: the B-21, F-35, Virginia-class subs, , Ford-class aircraft carriers, SSN (x) attack submarine. Biden says he will build infrastructure but, if history is a guide, he will pander to the woke, fight systemic racism, promote LBGQXYZ, become mired in congressional infighting, and the whole thing will devolve into pork. Want to bet?

What are these weapons for? The B-21 is an intercontinental nuclear bomber. What does one do with intercontinental nuclear bombers? Engage in intercontinental nuclear war. Are we sure this is a good idea? There will be no such war unless America starts it. China isn’t going to since (a) its approach to power and influence is commercial, which is working well, and (b) America has so many, many nuclear weapons of all sorts that China would be obliterated. If the US launched a first strike, the bombers would get there hours after the war was over. What would be the point?

The point is to funnel vast amounts of money into a bloated, running-on-autopilot military business so large that it can’t be reduced or controlled. All of this send-money PR assumes that China thinks it needs a nuclear holocaust. Who can doubt it?

It is impossible even to leave the military budget as it is, much less reduce it.

Military industry is so pervasive, providing so many jobs in so many states with so many lobbyists, that the President and his party cannot control it

America sends troops (Africom, Africa Command) and builds drone bases. China builds rail lines and buys up resources. Did we say something about a pattern?

What is a Ford-class carrier good for? The Fords are versatile ships, having a three-fold purpose: Funneling lots of money into military industry, killing defenseless peasants, and sticking the Pentagon’s tongue out at China. Killing peasants and soldiers in third-rate armies of bedraggled third-world countries is what the American military does. Think Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia. Getting into big wars with real countries is no longer practical despite the opportunities for profits because big countries depend on each other too much commercially. Even killing peasants begins to lose cache, as witness the comic opera defeat in Afghanistan..

A list of examples from Ohio. When military industry wants to produce a new weapon, it makes sure that components are produced in as many states as possible. But some things should be obvious. A big-ticket carrier creates a huge number of jobs for years at Newport News as well as jobs all over America for parts. When the carrier is completed and sails off to kill its peasants, the town goes into depression and stockholders lose dividends. The Pentagon then discovers an urgent need for another carrier. Congress shares this sense of urgency. Surprise, surprise.

What do I mean in saying that America is “short-sighted”? Try this:

  • Oregon Governor Kate Brown quietly signed a bill last month that removed the requirement for graduating high school children in the state to be proficient in reading, writing, and math, in an effort to aid “students of color.”

Wowee, that must terrify them over in China’s engineering departments, where students are years ahead of American in mathematics. This sort of thing goes on across America.

Number of Chinese overseas military bases: 1 (Djibouti) American: Hundreds. Number of Chinese military conflicts: One, a minor border clash with India. American: You know the list as well as I do, with Iran perhaps being groomed for the next war. Which country spends more on the foregoing? What has America gained?

This is long and kind of techy but makes the point that China is leaving the US far behind in five-g. While many think of Five-G as being for use in smart phones, this is actually of negligible importance. Where it counts is in industry, robotics, smart cities, mining with nobody underground, on and on. The United States, unable to compete with Huawei, consigned itself to primitivism by excluding the Chinese. Then it failed in its attempt to prevent China from rolling out five-g within its own borders. So much for bringing manufacturing back to America.

And whose fault is this?

Here is a point worth noting. The Chinese have the engineers, the numbers and the focus to do pretty much anything. They do not always have the machinery. AI takes more brains than machinery.

  • CATL goes all in on next-gen sodium-ion EV batteries

CATL Goes All in on Sodium Ion Batteries

Not a game-changer, and other countries look at the same thing but, as so often, China is right up there with the other big boys.

  • “Last month, during high-level talks in Honolulu, the US Indo-Pacific Command and the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM) agreed to build a new base in the island nation.” To contain China.

Military, military, military, military. The assumption in the Five Sided Wind Box seems to be that China is about to come roaring into the Pacific like the Japanese Imperial Naby in full flood, to conquer it. China is more likely to buy it.

  • Associated Press: “The politically sensitive goods deficit with China rose to \$27.8 billion in June, up 5.8% from the May level. So far this year, the goods deficit with China, the largest that the United States runs with any country, totals \$158.5 billion, an increase of 19.2% compared to the same period in 2020.”

Some economists predict America’s first overall trade deficit of a trillion dollars.

“China’s state-owned Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG) grabbed the Haifa port contract in 2015 which allows it to operate the commercial shipping facility for 25 years.”

Commercial, commercial, commercial, commercial.

  • Moscow Bothered by ‘Uncontrolled, Unrestricted Expansion’ of US Military Biolab Network Near Russia

And here in Mexico, where I live, people swear they see Chinese electric scooters and mini-electric which, they also swear, can be bought online from Alibaba and such. Meanwhile the narcos get assault rifles from the US.

Chronicles of a wild life in biker bars and the fleshpots of Bangkok, of years of solo hitchhiking across America, of a Southern boyhood of drag racing in old wrecks and guns and beer, of Marine Corps boot camp and Moon’s strange church, of scuba diving the deep walls of the Caribbean and cave diving in Mexico, of life on staff at Soldier of Fortune magazine and nine years as police reporter for the Washington Times in the weird, sad, and often unbelievable urban Petri dishes of the big cities. Politically incorrect and evilly funny, Fred takes no prisoners. He skews with murderous wit things he doesn’t like, which are many: pols, talking heads, officious do-gooders. He has a soft spot for things he does like, such as dogs, drunks, bar girls, and ambulance crews, of all of which he has known many. His work has appeared in Playboy, Harper’s, the Washington Post magazine an op-ed pages, and suchlike stations of the literary cross.

 
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  1. Uncle Al says: • Website

    The US is a Potemkin village gardened by Lysenko. If every village with a village fool were to scrub up to populate a World Village of Village Fools, the US would be that village’s Village Fool. The US is lawless, judically utterly corrupt, Federal Reserve System \$quadrillions financially imploded, healthcare lethal, educationally dead…EVERYBODY SING!


    NSFW

    “Best efforts will not substitute for knowledge.” W. Edwards Deming

  2. Max Payne says:

    America is like that prostitute you play grab ass with and think it’s all winks and smiles…. until she pulls her penis out on you.

    Long story short America is a whole other beast (NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange are larger by all metrics than all the other exchanges combined together, if we’re talking about commercial strength). If you don’t watch your ass you’ll find a sneaky pant lollipop in it.

    It’s a shame really. Even after the US wasted all that money on military equipment it’s still maintains a nation that attracts the most affluent and wealthiest Chinese. I guess no one wants to live in China even with all the knock-off super computers and Japanese-designed high speed rails. Hmmm..

    China: a country that bans gaming because its bad for youth (hyper-realistic simulation teaching the young about physics, material science, IT, geography, limitations of force, etc.):

    So bad, how dare I waste my time learning the relationship of earth curvature and radar resolution.

    But China openly encourages social media (a literal psychological cancer on the human race):

    Yes, good. Please tell me more about random breakfast thought number 6,948,394. I’d love to hear about the new hemorrhoid cream you’re trying. So I can forget it 10 seconds later. China is okay with that.

    How else can it keep an eye on its nationals living in the West?

    China’s economy is so powerful it prowls the internet to silence any hints of criticism (because it’s a fake economy built on the mirage the US first started):
    https://www.rt.com/business/533373-china-cleanse-media-platforsm-economy-bad-mouth/

    Just because I can put 10 Filipinas in my basement and force them to make high copy Nikes doesn’t make me an intelligent powerhouse. It makes me an asshole.

    Just like how image-recognition algorithms aren’t really intelligence but just brute-force advanced database look-up systems. Chinese copy-paste is not intelligence. It’s the human version of a brute-force advanced database look-up system. When you have enough cycles (or people) anything is possible. [Insert 1000 monkey’s and 1000 typewriters reference in here because I’m lazy].

    Protip: Assault rifles get more results than mini-electric scooters. Ask Israel.

  3. What are these weapons for?

    To project Israeli power?

    It’s useful to think of Israel (or international Jewish interests) and America as Thunderdome’s Master Blaster duo. Although the movie suggests Master had some genuine affection for the enormous dim witted Blaster.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  4. ruralguy says:

    The U.S. Government is just plunging into the future, incapable of thought. Chaos and contention rule Congress. Everything is on hold, as it slowly disintegrates from disorder, propped up by inertia.

  5. There’s nothing I disagree with in this one. It’s not like this is insightful observation that Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Peak Stupidity and the Libertarians and true Conservatives couldn’t have told you about for the last 50 years, or at least 30, since the end of the Cold War.

    No, but Fred Reed here HATES HATES HATES people like us. Good column for a change, but it’s nothing new, and you’re still useless to the cause.

    • Replies: @Rich
  6. Daniel H says:

    Number of Chinese military conflicts: One, a minor border clash with India.

    And that conflict was resolved with fisticuffs, though a few lives were lost. Ha, ha, ha.

    We are doomed.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @R2D3
  7. I constantly hear Americans say idiotic things, like we must station troops in Taiwan to protect that nation against Chinese aggression. Constant ramblings about the evil CCP that defy reality. But the Taiwanese will not allow American troops as they see no threat and cut their military’s budget the past decade and cut the size of their active duty army in half. China is their biggest trading partner and millions visit mainland China each year while millions of “Reds” visit Taiwan.

    An invasion by China is seen impractical in the same way Canadians don’t fret about an American military invasion. Yes, Taiwanese Generals make claims of threats to boost their budgets while their leaders get easy trade agreements with the USA when they say they need help to defend Taiwan. This is how they stole our high-tech industries like semiconductors. Whatever military tech we send to Taiwan is secretly shared with their business partners on the mainland. If the USA goes to war with China over some stupid provocation, expect Taiwan, South Korea, and the Philippines to remain neutral while the Han Chinese on Taiwan quietly cheer for their brother Han Chinese on the mainland to show the American devils they are better.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Thanks: Sarah
  8. Long ago I heard “China works on 100 year plans”
    The USA, 2years and plans for reelection

    Another quote “The Barbarians received bad press, actually they are the spoon that stirs the Stagnant stew of civilizations ”

    No doubt they have breached our walls

    Peace and Prosperity
    Through Responsibilities

    • Replies: @RoHa
  9. @Max Payne

    If your misguided understanding of reality is the best the US has to offer – then the race to mediocrity is truly going quickly.
    I’m hoping this was satire.

  10. @Carlton Meyer

    Twice in the past decades – Republic of China pilots flew their planes from Taiwan on to Mainland China. It’s a joke. That’s part of the reason the US only sells outdated weapons to the island.

  11. @Just another serf

    Was it Israel who came up with the Monroe Doctrine?? No doubt Israel wants the US to be involved in the Middle East… But what on earth does Israel have to do with the hundreds of US bases spread around the rest of the globe (an in the context of this piece – the ones surrounding China)??

  12. @showmethereal

    a retreat anywhere harbingers a retreat everywhere.

  13. Anon[136] • Disclaimer says:

    Biden = Andropov

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  14. Love ya, Fred!

    • Replies: @Rogue
  15. Daniel H says:
    @houston 1992

    a retreat anywhere harbingers a retreat everywhere.

    I have no problem with that.

    • Agree: Sarah
  16. @Daniel H

    Didn’t they throw some rocks at each other?

  17. R2D3 says:
    @Max Payne

    NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange are larger by all metrics than all the other exchanges combined together, if we’re talking about commercial strength

    That’s financial, not commercial strength.

    You’re right that china is a copycat, as every emerging country before.

    Some times they reached a point where this changed to innovation (eg Germany around 1900 or Japan 1960++).

    China now,as i can see this in my area, (electronics). They make clever new products at a fraction of western prices and competitive quality. Surely US is ahead in technology and complexity, but that is rarely needed and often produced in far east too.

    Western companies stand out more on mergers and acquisitions than through meaningful innovations. A clear sign of end of growing.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @interesting
  18. R2D3 says:
    @Daniel H

    We are doomed.

    More on this clever Covid Psyop which is much more chinese style then an open conflict.
    If they ever start aggression against Taiwan than a faked one. Bind western forces and stipulate more waste of money in the military.

    China now offers engineering capabilities to western capitalists and they will buy it as they did with production before. At some point nothing is left except money. A worthless good than and the economy become a faked one.

  19. It’s amusing to hear people kvetching about the military equipment left behind in Afghanistan.

    All that product of American factories was never meant to come back. The rifles, radios, trucks and troop carriers were meant to be consumed and forgotten. America can’t stop producing war gear, so it makes it and gives it away.

    The military industrial producers have a problem of surplus, which it is partly solving by stationing vast amounts of unused armor and equipment overseas, by wearing it out in training, and partly by giving it to countries like Egypt.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
  20. dearieme says:
    @R2D3

    You’re right that china is a copycat, as every emerging country before.

    Including the USA in its day. Like China, it was notorious for stealing what are now called Intellectual Property Rights.

  21. R2D3 says:

    Including the USA in its day. Like China, it was notorious for stealing what are now called Intellectual Property Rights.

    Everybody is doing. The argument is pure emotion and useless in the real world.

    I was an inventor and stopped this because it is now impossible to earn money for me. If you came up with an idea you have hordes of business and institutes that try to steal it and make their own thing of that. Nothing special to china or whoever.

    Just for my amusement i made “inventions” nearly impossible to physic, do some mysterious 3D printed obscures with cable and “hide” them on trade fairs. You will not believe how serious business man and institute figures try to make pics of them. Totally shameless. Some intentionally misconcepts of that i saw in competitor products and they need years to find and correct them. No chinese involved.

  22. J says:

    Very well-written analysis. Maybe the best on the subject. Yet, was it Mao who coined the phrase: “Power grows out of the barrel of a gun”? America bets on having the biggest gun, and Israel, after some confusion (Haifa Port contract), moved firmly into the American camp. Observing similar situations in the past, it is clear to me that it is the right decision. Vide Rome’s legions and her allies, vs the commercial empire of Carthage: Rome erased Carthage.QED.

  23. @houston 1992

    That would be a good thing for US taxpayers… But there is no further retreat after Afghanistan. Those resources – and then some – are only being shifted to confront China and Russia. It will cost US taxpayers more… And like Mr Reed said – it will INCREASE danger.

  24. @beavertales

    You are correct and even overseas – like small town America – many come to rely on the largesse and so are glad for the waste…. Though when it comes to major weapons system – the MIC has the opposite issues. Major weapons systems are no longer affordable even for the US Congress. So they have to keep trying to update ancient systems like F15’s and 16’s – which really are behind competitors now… That is a sign of a beast that is out of control and is consuming itself.

  25. @Max Payne

    I guess no one wants to live in China even with all the knock-off super computers and Japanese-designed high speed rails.

    Practically everything the US knows about precision machine-tool work, advanced chemistry, jet air planes, rockets, automobiles, diesel engines, public health care systems, sanitation, and indoor plumbing (including how septic tanks work) came from captured German documents.

  26. Good article by Fred.

  27. Realist says:
    @carroll price

    Yes, and other eastern European countries.

  28. Realist says:

    Fred, very good article. Something many U. S. citizens are afraid to know…but it is the fault of stupid decisions made by the voters in this country.

  29. joe2.5 says:
    @Max Payne

    Protip: Assault rifles get more results than mini-electric scooters. Ask Israel.

    Exactly! “Israel” is exactly the kind of result that gets — it’s screwed and so are we. Which was the point of Fred’s article.

    • Agree: antitermite
  30. Sam McGowan says: • Website

    And every Yuan in China belongs ultimately to the Chinese Communist Party. At least Americans have something Chinese don’t, at least for the time being – FREEDOM!!!

    • LOL: Fred777
  31. Rogue says:
    @Fran Macadam

    When Fred sticks to these kind of subjects he’s an entertaining read.

  32. R2D3 says:
    @carroll price

    Practically everything the US knows about precision machine-tool work, advanced chemistry, jet air planes, rockets, automobiles, diesel engines, public health care systems, sanitation, and indoor plumbing (including how septic tanks work) came from captured German documents.

    Even transistor patents shows up in Germany first. But after that methink was a lot of development in the US and other places, btw. i am German.

    The thinking here sounds typical US style. We against we-all. The we (US) has made a wireless phone standard,a practical useless technology with unbelievable shortcomes. The we-all had made the GSM standard in corporation of all European countries mainly from the companies but supported by the Gouvernements. That evolved to 4G and now 5G and far east was taken into the boat just because of common interests.

    The we (US) starts meddling with some security issues despite the fact that they are the biggest spies and leave any door open they can. Than had the idea to sanction Huawei. Did you know what you are doing? This whole industry is totally interwoven with endless tech and patent sharing and you can’t know which tech, chip or device comes from what company. But the US will boycott one of them. This is so endless stupid that everybody who knows how things work can only shake one’s head,

    Same – maybe more typical- with Covid. Over here endless discussion if bioweapon (whatever that means) and why. This site is filled with that point and nothing else counts*. Do you see any similarity to Fred’s very good writing above? Have USamericans nothing else in there head than aggression, counteraggression, weapons and so called “defense”.

    ___________
    *) i can’t say anything special because this is the only theme where unz censored me and my arguments did not changed.

  33. Biden says he will build infrastructure but. . . the whole thing will devolve into pork.

    Devolve? It’s pork from the get-go. Surely Fred spent enough time covering Washington to know that.

  34. Very good article. while China focuses on trade , science and innovation we are focusing on woke , lowering education standards and spending the money we that don’t have on weapons that no one wants or needs to chase a real or fictional enemy all over the globe.
    Military industrial complex is taking us to the cleaner and bankruptcy faster than we thought and sadly there is not one person in congress or senate defying them perhaps to due genuine fear of not being around for breakfast!

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
  35. @carroll price

    2003 article in the newspaper of record on German role in transistor development.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/24/business/a-parallel-inventor-of-the-transistor-has-his-moment.html

    Fifty-five years later, Herbert F. Mataré may finally get his due.

    It was researchers at AT&T Bell Laboratories in Murray Hill, N.J., who won the fame and the Nobel Prizes for inventing the transistor in 1948. But Dr. Mataré was one of a pair of German physicists who independently came up with the same device two months later at a Westinghouse Laboratory in Paris.

    The role played by Dr. Mataré, now age 90, and his late research partner, Heinrich Welker, at the dawn of the information age has gone virtually unnoticed in this country. Later this year, though, a Belgian historian, Armand Van Dormael, who has recently rediscovered their research from the 1940’s, hopes to publish a new history, ”The Silicon Revolution.”

    Mr. Van Dormael said that he hopes the book will lead to a reassessment of the German scientists’ contribution to the early development of computing and information technology.

    ”Mataré’s and Heinrich Welker’s work is really the climax of three decades of theoretical and practical research in Europe,” Mr. Van Dormael said in an interview. ”I think he should have the proper credit.”

    The Encyclopedia of Record also has a bio on Matare.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Mataré

    and his colleague
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Welker

    van Dormael, as an independent scholar, may be obscure. Perhaps, he is or was too independent.

  36. @carroll price

    Stanford professor writes article on the German effort in transistor development for IEEE magazine.
    Article hints that lack of infrastructure, ww2 stymied the German efforts somewhat, but their transistor was only 2 months behind the American one in 1948.

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/how-europe-missed-the-transistor

  37. @carroll price

    more from the Belgian, van Dormael, on the German role in the “French” transistor.
    https://cdvandtext2.org/VanDormael.pdf

  38. @Max Payne

    This is precisely what I have been telling people – a brutal war with the Whites is inevitable. It doesn’t matter what the Chinese do or don’t do. The guilt of the Chinese race as a whole is only limited by White imagination and they are a very imaginative race. I am very worried about the CCP’s weakness. They should put the whole nation on a war footing and invest heavily on nuclear weapons and racial bioweapons.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  39. @J

    One sign of inevitable brutal race war – the deliberate and creative mistranslation of anything said in Chinese. That indicates an active malice. A will to construct a narrative for war. The berserker is hyping himself up for a battle. I for one welcome this war.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain, Sarah
    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    , @Avis
  40. Bite Moi says:
    @Uncle Al

    Uncle Al———–America is is is in the grip of Late Stage Democracy. If Uncle Sam cut the military budget,ended the Americans with Disabilities Act,ended Affirmative Action,renewed the “Right of Association”,and phased out welfare; White Americans would be colonizing the solar system within 2 generations.

    • Agree: Uncle Al, CelestiaQuesta
  41. @beavertales

    America can’t stop producing war gear, so it makes it and gives it away.

    Gives it away to anyone and everyone, that is, except the American people, who would use it against the usurping tyrants behind the Military-Industrial Complex who oppress them. That’s why they pull out all the stops to criminalize military-grade weapons ownership and keep it out of our hands, the Second Amendment be damned.

  42. @Sam McGowan

    At least Americans have something Chinese don’t, at least for the time being – FREEDOM!!!

    What country have you been living in for the past two decades? Obviously it hasn’t been America.

  43. TKK says:

    China- watching America rot from pandering to deviants.

    Take immediate corrective action.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Thanks: Agent76, true.enough
    • Replies: @frankie p
  44. Military Keynesianism
    dennis hanna

  45. @Sam McGowan

    Again that delicious “freedom”. But the truth is that Americans haven’t had real freedom for 200 years now. You have a second amendment that has been rendered inert by the federal agency the ATF. It’s only purpose is to infringe on that amendment. In fact every single federal agency infringes on the Bill of Rights in one way or the other.

    For instance, the ninth amendment is routinely neutered by the FDA.

    So please stop repeating those nice obsolete platitudes. Like an alcoholic you have to acknowledge that there is a problem before you can go ahead and fix it. The USA needs a 12 step program, or else, the crazy drunken uncle is going to put everyone in the household in grave danger.

    Don’t even talk about freedom unless you address the [1] freedom to be left alone, the [2] freedom to be forgotten, and [3] the freedom of absolute privacy. If you do not, or cannot, it simply means that you are just regurgitating platitudes mindlessly and without intelligence.

    • Agree: Robert Bruce
  46. frankie p says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Carlton,

    I respect your comments and your videos. However, you are WAY off on this one. You are in the reality from a decade ago. Things have changed. I live in Taiwan.

    • Replies: @Carlton Meyer
  47. @The_MasterWang

    … It doesn’t matter what the Chinese do or don’t do. The guilt of the Chinese race as a whole is only limited by White imagination and they are a very imaginative race…

    Those white guys got themselves wet in sewage. They believe that they could cleanse themselves by smearing the filth on them onto the Chinese who are clean:

    Thus, naturally, these are the same crimes Western media accuse China of committing. There are few better examples of psychological projection (and psychopathy) than committing such abuses yourself, and then falsely accusing someone else of committing them. The more atrocities China can be accused of committing – the less guilty they feel about having actually committed theirs.

    Moreover, it takes away attention from your own real crimes and shifts the focus on China’s imaginary ones. The world can then spend more time discussing China’s unproven, imaginary genocide in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, and focus less on Canada’s real, proven genocide at home.

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-06-26/China-is-paying-hypocritical-Western-nations-back-in-their-own-coin-11pbkcmfLyw/index.html

    • Agree: Sarah
  48. Sisifo says:
    @Sam McGowan

    Good for the Americans, to still have freedom.

    From here Downunder, China seems a paradise…

  49. Not many innovations are made in new products.
    China is concentrating its efforts to make the products faster and cheaper.

  50. @Max Payne

    “China and Russia are also watching closely, and comfortably exploring ways of threatening Americans in the near term as well as, perhaps more ominously (and much like during the Obama-Biden era), building longer-term strategic alliances with America’s adversaries for the right moment to undermine America down the road.” and only Fox knows the score—-USA stands alone with Canada –Great Britain-Australia and New Zealand plus NATO–defending human rights, democracy and freedom.

  51. Why don’t any of these ‘China Superior’ at this and that, which who knows may be true, never document how much of the USA-China trade is USA based corporations making things in China, either under their direct ownership or through contractors, and sending it back to the USA to sell to USA consumers?

    Surely this is a huge amount of money, a huge amount of the trade deficit. If we assume (and I do) that these USA based corporations (and of course their investors) have AT LEAST as much control over policy(via bought politicians) as the military industrial complex, and in fact are part of this complex also, then maybe they are perfectly fine with the growth of China.

    Also unmentioned is the amount of USA debt China holds. China buys the debt that allows the USA to squander money on the military bases and useless military equipment. So, if China really felt threatened, why don’t they dump the dollar system? Do they really feel threatened?

    USA elites make tons of money via China. The loser is the USA citizen. But the USA citizens are by and large content with their country going down the tubes, thanks to big business elites, while China advances. Otherwise they would mobilize in larger numbers.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  52. The US (or rather the WEF, who are in control of US policies) are actively planning for a WWIII where MAD (strategic nuclear weapons exchanges & EMP pulses) will be used by the US & Sino-Russian axis to wipe out each others’ population, economic and technological base. The elites will come out and pose themselves as the savior after the irradiated dust is settled, to “Back Back Better” (this time from the ruins) and to use the world as a blank slate to impose their visions of automation and transhumanism, which will be uncontested and unopposed since all the plebeians are gone. War is the most effective way to depopulate, where homicide of soldiers and civilians on the side of your states’ enemies are legal and encouraged.

    All they need is a false-flag attack (possibly one taken from the playbook of their 2020 internet security simulation – you know how Event 201 has gone down), or a provocation from one of “America”‘s vassals (Taiwanese declaration of independence, Ukrainian or Israeli attack on Russian/Iranian assets). And the chance of this happening, like COVID, is approaching 100%.

    You can’t expect the modern world to go on further than a short while, like how you won’t expect the “Old Normal” to come back at all.

    • Replies: @Avis
  53. @Doc Strange Love

    Spending on what? The only thing we’re printing and borrowing for is ongoing mass immigration.

  54. The US makes the military its be-all-and-end-all, but then crams that military full of low-IQ negroes, women, sodomites, transvestites, and other unfits and misfits. It seems the real purpose of the US military is to generate military spending, not military power. It’s certainly not very good at winning wars.

  55. Sarah says:

    Warmongers and warprofiteers revolt me.
    Billionaires, philantropists, psychopaths, NGOs, sociopaths, politicians, speculators ready to exterminate millions of people to become even richer, disgust me to the core.
    I totally sides victims.
    I am amazed to see, while they have just left Afghanistan yet, they are already preparing the next war.

    Probably Iran and Lebanon.
    And also China :
    – they are preparing to use the South-Koreans, Japanese and maybe Taiwaneses as cannon fodder.
    – South-Korea : they “allowed” (translate “forced”) South Korea to have missiles capable of reaching China : so it will be the South-Koreans who will be massacred and not the US,
    – South Korea is considering the draft of women, which will double the mass of cannon fodder, coincidentally at the same time as the US legalized it.

  56. Miro23 says:
    @mocissepvis

    At least Americans have something Chinese don’t, at least for the time being – FREEDOM!!!

    What country have you been living in for the past two decades? Obviously it hasn’t been America.

    It’s pluses and minuses. If you’re a rich liberal in the US (and carefully stick to woke rules) you can have a life of plenty for yourself and your family. You have to repeat the slogans; BLM, “White supremacy”, “Domestic terrorism” etc. – but that’s a small price to pay for being part of the (Jewish approved) Nomenklatura.

    The difference in China is that it isn’t controlled by a paranoid ethnic minority, and it’s improving life for all Chinese. It’s a more powerful model economically and socially than the feudal aristocratic US arrangement. So it depends on your point of view. China does put the state (national interest) ahead of corporate interests, so if you’re plugged into the Jewish power structure or want totally subservient politicians to enable unlimited corporate looting – then the US is the place to be.

    Overseas, both the US and China look unattractive. US Jewry tries to extend its grip to the ROW (Rest Of the World) – notably the Anglo world, Europe and South America (with controlled media, wokism, corporate looting, “regime change” and wars) while China extends the familiar S.E.Asian “Asian godfather” model. A corrupt Chinese economic elite enters into symbiotic relationships with corrupt local elites to loot their respective countries. The Chinese aren’t in Africa because they love Africans or for charitable reasons or to aid African development. They want access to raw materials at the lowest price possible – for direct export to mainland China.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  57. @Anon

    Biden = Andropov

    OMG that means America has yet to go through it’s Gorbachevs and Yeltsins…shudders.

  58. @Max Payne

    China: a country that bans gaming because its bad for youth (hyper-realistic simulation teaching the young about physics, material science, IT, geography, limitations of force, etc.):

    I’ve played more than enough video games to know the overwhelming majority of them are mindless entertainment. Brainy video games are a tiny niche. It’s no different than with movies. A small number of movies may teach viewers something valuable about science, history, or philosophy. However, the Fast and Furious series is much more popular.

    You’re grabbing at straws in order to hold on to your that delusion China isn’t quickly moving ahead of the US. Try to find consolation in the thought that a country that idolizes George Floyd and seeks to convert as many of its boys as possible into trannies doesn’t deserve to lead the world or even to exist.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @BluEidDvl
  59. @The_MasterWang

    I for one welcome this war.

    Really, American subs with MIRVs patrol the Chinese coasts and a first strike means that all Chinese cities will be annihilated in 10 minutes before you can launch a retaliatory extermination strike which will have to fly over the Pacific Ocean and therefore be susceptible to anti missile defences. You don’t stand a chance if the shit hits the fan.

    • Agree: bombthe3gorgesdam
    • Thanks: Sarah
  60. What do I mean in saying that America is “short-sighted”? Try this:

    Oregon Governor Kate Brown quietly signed a bill last month that removed the requirement for graduating high school children in the state to be proficient in reading, writing, and math, in an effort to aid “students of color.”

    China to run commercial port in Israel:

    “China’s state-owned Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG) grabbed the Haifa port contract in 2015 which allows it to operate the commercial shipping facility for 25 years.”

    Fred choses to avoid the 20th anniversary of (((9-11))) by blaming the US for behaving as if its Israel lobby war criminal masters didn’t exist, and have nothing to do with its ever more blatant (((White genocide agenda))).

  61. @Max Payne

    Nothing dumber than a self-deluded Yankee Doodle racist. With its one neuron wracked with panic at China’s rise. How can those goddammed slopes beat us White Gods? They musta cheated!! Grr, grrr, snort, snort.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  62. @mocissepvis

    So long as you are not plotting against your country, the average Chinese is every bit as ‘free’ as a Yank. And orders of magnitude less self-deluded and whining.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  63. @The_MasterWang

    You are correct, Wang. A race war is inevitable, given the sheer diabolical viciousness of Western elites. First to go will be any sane Westerners who argue against race war with the largest economy on Earth. They will be targeted as traitors, race traitors in fact. This, I think, is check-out time for humanity, as the weapons that will be used are beyond our capacity to survive. The bio-war attack on China known now as CoViD19, is indicative of just how terminally Evil the USA has become, and, believe me, here in Austfailia, the race-haters dominate politics and the MSM.

    • Agree: Badger Down
  64. Sarah says:

    Did you know that the US bombed Chinese cities during WWII, while the Chinese were supposedly allies of the US?

    Did you know that Wuhan was fire-bombed? About 20,000 civilians killed or burned alive and many wounded.

    Did you know that Taiwanese cities were carpet-bombed and fire-bombed? Thousands civilians were killed or burned alive, thousands civilians houses and civilians facilities were destroyed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJgLrgju3k&t=0s

    US do not invade, conquer or colonize, they ” intervene “.
    US do not bomb, they bring ” democracy “.
    US do not fire-bomb, they ” liberate “.
    US do not destroy countries, nor genocide their inhabitants, they ” build ” them.

    WHO is the enemy of all the peoples of the Earth?

    • Agree: Chinaman
  65. Renoman says:

    Nothing more sleazy and filthy than an arms salesman. Go Fred!

  66. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent article, a concise although disheartening summary of US vs China.

    Starting with the Bay of Pigs the US has had nothing but a long line of military failures. I really don’t see another Jewish war in the offing even though they’ll try like hell to push it through. Iran and China would be serious foes who could actually fight back–not the kind of opponents normally picked by US/Israel. And frankly, a war with China would be the most egregious form of anti-semitism because the US would diverting military resources from the Middle East, don’t think for a second that Israel would allow that.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  67. Gordo says:

    PRC is a Han Chinese ethnostate. Much flows from this.

  68. “Military, military, military, military.”

    So, the US, after all, does have enough nuclear weapons to obliterate China to the smithereens and that’s exactly what is going to happen if the chinaman don’t mind his Ps and Qs!

  69. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Yet another USer who doesn’t know where the Pacific Ocean is. But what the heck, let’s play safe and bomb it anyway.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  70. Andreas says:

    Excellent synopsis of what ails the US.

    When a nation’s excesses have become “too big to fail”, then what comes next is naturally just more excess, as Reed has amply shown. But by definition of excess, unless there is some intervention, disaster will at some point invariable occur.

  71. gotmituns says:

    We can’t fight China and China (there’s too much money at stake) can’t fight us. So we’ll/they’ll have to amuse ourselves/themselves by leaning all over lesser weak opponents. I don’t see why China can’t attack Thailand for some dumb reason and we can’t maybe attack Paraguay – What’s wrong with that?

  72. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Let’s find out. Let’s see if you are the gods on Earth you think you are. I dare you to start a nuclear war. I triple dare you.

    One thing I keep reminding people around me is that ultimately our existence is not in the racial interest of Whites and the reverse is also true.

    • Replies: @Andreas
    , @Weaver
  73. Avis says:
    @The_MasterWang

    So what’s the accurate translation?

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  74. Avis says:
    @Sam McGowan

    OOF!… um, yeah, um… about that whole “freedom” thing…

  75. Avis says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    If your layout of their big WWIII plan turns out to be accurate, and maybe it is, it would prove that the WEF types have become insulated to the point of retardation. Those methods would rob them of everything they need to create the utopia you describe. It would the the most magnificent own-goal in human history.

  76. Chinaman says:

    Fred is the few American the Chinaman will welcome to China. He can replace my Filipino driver. I like how he kowtow.

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  77. @Avis

    “A political regime comes out of a barrel of a gun.”

    I understand why the deliberate omission of the word “political”.

    I see their active malice and bloodlust and respond with our own.

    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @Weaver
  78. frankie p says:
    @TKK

    TKK,

    You point out one facet of a broader government run movement in China that should resonate with conservatives in the US, especially Christian conservatives. The social policies that the Christian Protestant Right are always whinging and railing about and wishing would change are being actively changed and stamped out by Xi and his dominant faction of the CCP. Let’s look at some of the components here: First, China has recently announced that children under 18 will be limited to 3 hours of online gaming per week, and the monitoring of this gaming will be the responsibility of the internet gaming companies under constant scrutiny of the CCP’s regulators. Although it’s clear that this will spawn a new business model, the “rented” internet account, it will still have a significant result. Later, the CCP announced that they would not approve ANY new online games, and this ban is indefinite. Strong words were published, “Children are addicted to electronic drugs.” Another part of the curbing of the internet giants in China involves user privacy, with laws being passed forbidding internet companies to sell user information without the users’ consent. This also involves mandatory toolbars to allow users to opt out of their browsing or shopping information to be sold for profit. The war on the “culture of celebrity” which is touched on in your video, is another step that the Christian Right would be right behind, as they hate the Hollywood culture and its decadence. The fact that they have put an outright ban on “sissy boys” on both tv and the internet is telling. Niang Niang Pao: “Sissy Guns” is what the Chinese call these effeminate pretty boys, and the CCP is having none of it. Pile this on top of the CCP bans on pornography online, and the Christian Right is going apoplectic with envy.

    I admit openly that I support ALL of these policy moves by the CCP, and none more than the reining in of the big tech internet giants, which has hurt both foreign institutional investors, ADR holders and the elite 5% and rich oligarchs in China.

    The difference between the Christian Right and myself is that they have been propagandized by the US Media to see China as the bad guy, a totalitarian state that oppresses Christians. The Protestant Right, dialed in as they are to the Ben Shapiro / Prager U stream of conservative Jews who promote the fallacy of Judeo-Christian values, need to wake up to real actions and see that China is pursuing policies that will improve social values and lead to a better, healthier society for the people of China.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  79. The assumption in the Five Sided Wind Box seems to be that China is about to come roaring into the Pacific like the Japanese Imperial Naby in full flood

    A navy baby?

    He has a soft spot for things he does like, such as dogs, drunks, bar girls, and ambulance crews, of all of which he has known many.

    And high IQ Mexicans.

    —————–

    US dominates high-tech and finance.

    Also, US is globo-vatican as it dominates the world with soft power of Jewish media, black rap, hollywood, globo-homo, ivy league, sports, and new fads.

  80. Che Guava says:

    Great article as usual, Mr. Reed.

    However, not jarring, but a surprise, you had a spell as a Moonie?

    Have you written abt. it?

    Always. regards par moi.

  81. All Americans should follow Fred’s example and move to Mexico in protest. At least the cartels are more honest about their intentions.

  82. Leftist2 says:

    US military spending is an integral part of the US economy, and China is an integral part of the US economy’s supply chain.

  83. Maddaugh says:
    @Chinaman

    Fred is the few American the Chinaman will welcome to China. He can replace my Filipino driver. I like how he kowtow.

    LOL

    Yeah, we are all grateful you have a job lined up for Freddie. As you know, Fred intends to give up his Pentagon pension. I am sure he will settle for a salary of \$100 yuan per month. His house in that gated community in Mexico will go to his common law wife and cucked daughter. You will have to get one of those Tesla self driving cars as Fred is not only blind but dumb. He might not only run off the road but run into a loaded truck and China will be deprived of an adopted son.

    You will have to find another job for him. You could use your influence with the local Municipality to get him a job picking up trash, something more suited to his IQ and ability. You will also have to give Fred a Chinese name. How about Fuk Ree.

    Good luck with your new employee and be sure to never miss an opportunity to abuse him on a daily basis. When you take him to task for a tongue lashing he must crawl into your office, keep his eyes on the floor and speak only when given permission. He will make the perfect bitch !

    N.B.: Make sure he is exhausted at the end of the day so we dont have to read any more of his China articles.

    • LOL: Jim H
  84. Jon Chance says: • Website

    Naturally, the Bank of England and other global totalitarians exported American and European industry to Red China and the CCP decades ago while reducing the role of Americans to be the transnational robocop for UKEUNATO and the Terrorist Theocracy of Israel.

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  85. Maddaugh says:

    When Fred writes these articles about China, UR readers run amok, which is his intent. Ron sits back and enjoys the show. So do I. Like all Mad Daughs they foam at the mouth and snap at the muzzle. Down boys. Sit ! Give me a paw ! There is a good doggie. Here is a liver treat. Now…………

    >There will be no war with China
    >If China wants to invade Taiwan who really gives a shit. 99% of Americans dont even know where the fuck Taiwan is. Hell, you can stop on 84th Street and ask directions to 85th street and get a blank look.

    For all those who oppose any such invasion I say enlist and go there to rumble. Remember, its to the West, the West, the West across the Pacific which is to the WEST !!! You know where LA is ? San Francisco ? California ? Yes, in that direction. Dont use electronic maps as they sometimes malfunction. You may end up in the Capitol and end up in jail !

    That said, another drama somewhere that would be good for us Doggs. I am kinda tired of all this Covid bullshit. We need another distraction so I can do some travelling. How about deporting all coloureds, Moslems and members of LGBTQGVKYFVBJN:LHKBXHGKHJGYO*&^*%(*__ to China ?
    The Gobi desert needs population.

    Oh, I forgot China does not want them only we do ! Note to UR readers, the Chinese think they are all a bunch of dengerate shits and bestial perverts.

    Oh well, one can only hope ! Given the American propensity for sheer stupidity we can be sure a new fiasco will soon be forthcoming.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  86. ricpic says:

    Fred left out that China cannot feed itself.

  87. Rich says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Do you really think Fred hates us? I don’t get that impression. He writes fondly of his youth and points out the mistakes of America’s ruling class. He likes Hispanics, he’s married to one, lives as an expat in Mexico and gets along with them, so what? He’s not wrong in arguing that Hispanics aren’t leaving, and that we’re going to have to find a way to get along with them. It’s over. Every day more and more illegals are swarming over the border, and legal immigration is out of control. In 2015 the official number of Hispanics was about 57 million. Probably only legal Hispanics. Before Biden is done, there’ll be another 10-20 million and all of their kids will automatically have citizenship, I can see an amnesty in there, too. America will be the equivalent of a South American country within 20 years, an Argentina, or maybe a more dysfunctional Brazil. We’re already a banana republic, obviously corrupt elections, imperial edicts from el presidente, inflation, etc. There’s no stopping it now. We’re going to have to start paying more attention to guys like Fred Reed to understand where our kids and grandkids will be living soon.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  88. Wokechoke says:
    @J

    Are you really comparing China to Carthage? You do recall that Hannibal raged up and down the Italian Peninsular for a decade. The Carthaginians were an exclusive elitist Semitic led multiracial coalition. The Romans were a massive ethnic bloc even in 250 BC. Lol. Either way the Chinese are going to be fine.

  89. @Max Payne

    Thank you Max. Phred is so phull of \$#!T that his eyes are brown. To much ganja and tequila for the cranial neurons to survive. People seem to wilfully deny the fact that Europeans and the European Americans made the majority of all significant discoveries in Science and Engineering in Human History. The Asians are excellent copiers or republished but not discoverers. Why, l do not know, but it is an observable and documentable fact.

    Here on this Website equal time and weight are given to both the expert and the fool. It can be entertaining but not truly enlightening especially for those who are not genuine scientists or engineers.

    Give me 10,000 monkeys and a long enough time and they will write the complete works of William Shakespeare. But then that is how computers work, isn’t it. I think that is why it is called Artificial Intelligence. Because it is FAKE Intelligence.

    Sometimes l think Phred is just another Algorithm. Running loose in the ethernet.

  90. … [Biden] will pander to the woke, fight systemic racism, promote LBGQXYZ….

    You forgot the T, you old Transphobe!

    America sends troops (Africom, Africa Command)…

    Africom, Headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany because Africa is just too African for our Diversity Corps.

    What is a Ford-class carrier good for?

    Remember when Ford was an acronym for ‘Found on Road Dead’?

    “China’s state-owned Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG) grabbed the Haifa port contract in 2015 which allows it to operate the commercial shipping facility for 25 years.”

    I’d read that as America’s Bestest Buddy reading the tea leaves and pivoting to a new Bestest Buddy.

    Meanwhile the narcos get assault rifles from the US.

    Chinese AK-47 knockoffs are cheaper, but I suppose the narcos get theirs from Uncle Sugar on better terms.

  91. It is not to sell or buy more or less. What is at stake is that the Chinese social system cannot succeed because it would end the privileges of races, religion and classes that destroy the world.

  92. @Anon

    Biden = Andropov

    Andropov was a more convincing liar during his life. My money would be on

    Biden = Chernenko

    He was a far more mind-numbed party apparatchik, much like Creepy Joe.

  93. Agent76 says:

    Apr 10, 2021 American Greed Helps China’s Military Rise | China Uncensored

    China has a secret weapon. One so devastating, it could even make an invasion of Taiwan possible. What is this secret weapon?

    APR 30, 2021 China’s Energy Actions Speak Louder Than Its Phony Climate Pledges

    The West may well water down sanctions in exchange for Chinese commitments but all it will get from China in return is lip service.

    https://climatechangedispatch.com/chinas-energy-actions-speak-louder-than-its-phony-climate-pledges/

    • Troll: Showmethereal
  94. I knew years ago the coming gloom, you could feel it consume most everything we do. Once they made a babbling buffoon brain dead two bit crook a role model for America’s best and brightest, I knew then our time was limited and the worst is yet to come.

  95. Fred writes a good narrative, for 1991.

    Who wants to live in China? I’d live in China… or Russia. I happen to like cold weather.

    It would be a relief to live somewhere not subjected to rule by American TV.

    Why the huge US military? It’s not really huge. Just spread thin to the point of total reliance on mercenaries (contractors). Mercenaries that happen to hate the US.

    3,000 years from now, America will be the mythical demonic land that tried to enslave all it failed to exterminate. The religions of today will be the primitive pagan beliefs of their past.

    The billionaires of today are very poor by the standards of antiquity even with infinity magic money at their command. Very stupid too. Thinking there’s no jam or tight spot the FBI can’t get them out of.

  96. Joe Wong says:
    @Max Payne

    it’s still maintains a nation that attracts the most affluent and wealthiest Chinese.

    Thanks for the US taking in all those unwanted and undesirable “the most affluent and wealthiest” Chinese for China. Those Chinese does not fit the society Chinese want to build, they are a burden on and cancer of Community with a Shared Future for Mankind.

    • Agree: Sarah
  97. SafeNow says:

    As I have posted before, I believe in what is called military “presence.” Spend military money without any fighting, killing, or lost limbs. The money has to be spent; that is a given at this point. So, I am all for bases abroad. Bring it on. Australia, the polar regions, bring it on. Peripheral places; no confrontations. China, by the way, shares my view. They are playing at bumper boats with their gigantic 12,000-ton “coast guard cutters” to create “presence.” These are not warships. The worst-case scenario is the exchange of small-arms fire. No World War III. The other branches should follow the recruiting model of the US Coast Guard…The best signup advantages go to enlistees with a culinary degree.

    Speaking about World War III, I worry. My old list consisted of miscalculation, incompetence, and systems-error. I now add to these the recent evidence that the commander-in-chief is cognitively and emotionally impaired, and, is an impetuous meanie.

  98. Andreas says:
    @The_MasterWang

    Let’s find out. Let’s see if you are the gods on Earth you think you are. I dare you to start a nuclear war. I triple dare you.

    They won’t dare. Americans are abject cowards. Even their lieutenants now lead from the rear. And their top civilian and military leadership is too befuddled to make sense of heads or tales. After the fiasco of Afghanistan, what level of competence could anyone expect from these people in a confrontation with China? Are we to expect that they’ll rise to the occasion then?

    It amazes me how people are still unable to grasp that the US is done for. It is past tense. Only a certain inertia keeps the illusion going otherwise.

    As all recent events demonstrate, the US is no longer able to project its influence in any assertive and constructive way. The line was drawn in Syria. Iraq was an embarrassing disaster. Iran is a bridge too far. Nord Stream 2 will begin pumping soon. Sanctions have little to no effect. Their pathetic attempts to further their interests in Ukraine are just laughable. They never even gained traction in Belarus. They are falling behind in technology and have little to no industrial capacity. Reed has covered all the rest.

    The cabal that has usurped control over the government in Washington understands all of this. For it is their power that is slipping from their grasp. And the rage of this mortally wounded beast is now turning inward against its own founding people in a vain effort to keep its bloated and dysfunctional war machine going. This rage is real and it is a sign of desperation. The US’s much vaunted “freedom” is turning into outright coercion. And the American people will be the victims unless they wake up soon.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  99. Weaver says:
    @Andreas

    What interests in Ukraine? It’s individuals exploiting the US government, using it against the interests of US citizens, as you then stated… We’re not cowards for not wanting unnecessary war. Would I be brave if I joined some group wanting nuclear war with China? If we succeeded, is that brave? Sounds insane.

    • Replies: @Andreas
  100. Weaver says:
    @The_MasterWang

    Your existence? How is China’s existence not in the racial interests of whites? Moron.

    The US government hates white people. You have no idea whom your enemy is. If the US and Europe were driven by racial interest, why would both states import so many foreigners? Why would both states waste so much money? Why would the US lose so badly in trade?

    Whites are not a majority in the US, among the young where it counts. Jews dominate currently, but the left is even turning on them. Do you understand how the managerial state operates? It promises to protect US citizens from the supposed dangers of scary white people in exchange for power. The US state is empowered by the myth that it needs to fight white people.

    And you, in China, think Americans are driven by race? Absurd. The US wants a global state. It’s completely different from how you imagine.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  101. ricpic says:

    The good news is that China will implode. Again. As China has imploded skatey eight times in the past. That’s right, skatey eight. Look it up.

  102. Agent76 says:

    Oct 9, 2014 China surpasses U.S. as world’s largest economy

    The International Monetary Fund says China’s surging economic power has surpassed the United States.

    Oct 20, 2010 The Chinese Professor

  103. Weaver says:
    @The_MasterWang

    Usually in the US the translation we see is “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” Or just, “power grows from the barrel of a gun.”

    I don’t understand why you’re freaking out. Mao was a horrible person. He had Jewish advisors. But Mao is dead now. The US has many bad leaders as well. Why freak out? Also, it’s quite common, on the Internet, to see false claims, false quotes, etc. Sometimes they’re just innocent mistakes.

    The US wants to enslave China, sure, but you don’t understand what the US is. The US wants a mixed race global state, possibly run by Jews but likely just mixed. Anyway, nuclear war is stupid.

    It’s in *white interests* to avoid war. And *whites* have no interest in enslaving China. You just have no idea what you’re talking about. Whites want a small ethnostate that can survive from globalism. That’s it. People who care about race, people who care about common people, common workers, don’t want a global state.

    Also, Jews seem to want to intermarry with Chinese and then try to take over China. But, you can stop that by simply not allowing non-Chinese citizens in China. Immigration is the primary threat to China or to most states, really.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  104. Andreas says:
    @Weaver

    You won’t even confront the issues directly, instead hiding behind vapid questions. Need anymore be said?

    • Replies: @Weaver
  105. BluEidDvl says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Spot on. A depressingly high percentage of my fellow White Americans (& much of the West) are in a state of utter denial & delusion about what is happening to their country. Many still honestly believe we can vote ourselves out of this mess, we can’t, case in point: Trumpers. As if one man can save us from this mess?. As the White population continues to sink, the average national IQ will drop precipitously. Soon, very soon we’ll not be able to compete on the world stage with any other 1st world nation, especially the racially homogeneous, high IQ nations of East Asia. We’re very rapidly becoming a northern Hemisphere Brazil.. with nukes!. Drive through ANY American city today. Trash, graffiti, filth & squalor are everywhere. Filled with clueless, obese, racially/genetically ambiguous, profoundly unhealthy, mentally & morally sick & degenerate “people”. And these are the people that are going to be able to compete with China?. A deeply nationalistic, high IQ, largely racially homogeneous (China is 94% Han), highly disciplined population that is close to an absolute meritocracy (only NS Germany could compare). Where they’re superb at nurturing their best & brightest.

    We’ve been all fed a pack of lies about human “equality” & that ALL are as equally capable of attaining the “American dream”. We can’t. Race is real, absolutely real & we ignore that at our peril. We’ve destroyed our children’s & our people’s future chasing this phantasm called equality.

    All China has to do now is wait. It’ll all be theirs soon enough, because as you said, we don’t deserve it.. 🤔

  106. @Bull Gator

    I know millions of Chinese can do this too, but let me, as a poor semi-literate White man, correct you on this 10,000 (or 1,000,000) monkeys can eventually do anything crap. Forget the complete works of William Shakespeare. Lets pick a page of a newspaper.

    One page may contain approximately 5,000 characters (letters of the alphabet). Forget capitalization, punctuation, and spaces. There are 26 letters in the English alphabet. Therefore the chance of guessing the the proper letter is 1 chance in 26, or in fractions 1/26. Therefore, the probability of getting the first letter on the page right is 1/26. Same for the second letter, 1/26. The probability of getting both the first and second letter right is 1/26 x 1/26, or 1/26 raised to the 2nd power. The probability of getting all 5,000 characters on the page right in the proper sequence is the fraction 1/26 raised to the 5,000 power. That is a God-awful small number. How small is it; look at it from the monkey’s viewpoint.

    Our galaxy has about 200 billion stars. It is estimated that there are about 100 billion galaxies in the universe. If each of the stars in the universe had a million planets orbiting them, and each planet had one billion monkeys typing for a trillion years at one character per second, the chances of any one monkey typing all 5,000 characters correctly in the proper sequence is essentially zero. So forget the monkeys.

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  107. Bull Gator @89

    “Give me 10,000 monkeys and a long enough time and they will …”

    You are too late it’s already been done. It’s called the Pentagon and the Congress.

  108. Corrupt says:

    “Number of Chinese military conflicts: One, a minor border clash with India.”

    Seriously? You are literally and mentally blind Fred. How about Vietnam? Tibet? Taiwan? The Uhrgars (SP?).

  109. Weaver says:
    @Andreas

    What issues am I not confronting? I want 100% of US soldiers relocated into US territory. I want 100% of US embassies removed; we don’t need them. I want all drone attacks, all foreign funding, ended. I’m a complete isolationist, want “defence” spending cut to \$50b, even think Smedley Butler’s solutions might be worth considering (removing profit incentive from war.)

    I want the Federal Reserve audited. I want the millions of illegals in the US deported. I want trade protected, like under Calvin Coolidge. I want the US government spending cut dramatically. To combat wealth inequality, go with UBI. The government doesn’t need its hands on tax money; just send it directly to citizens.

    I have many more strategies. But that should clarify my goals, the things that I push. I’ve wanted the US to focus inward for a very long time. *And I knew what the result would be.* And the US elite has long hated its founding population. It was only with the Internet that people like me could have some influence, that Americans could break out of the brainwashing a bit.

    I supported Trump in part because he was a change agent. Trump helped screw things up. Biden, surprisingly, is also changing some things. Have you heard the expression, “worse is better”? I want Americans to panic, to realise how bad things are, to lose faith in the elite, in institutions. I do not want more immigration, but otherwise I want many things *worse*.

    The US is changing in some ways that I want. The only issue is it’s too late. I wanted all of this back in 2000, or really as early as possible. Ironically, it was bad for America to have the boom in the 90s. Conservatives generally want order, that is true, but the US elite have actively been attacking the foundation of America since WWII. The US became this aggressive empire that was very bad for American citizens. We became a “military with a nation, not a nation with a military.” The empire became central.

    I agree with you, the people in charge of the US will not attack China. I’m only allowed 3 posts in an hour. I welcome criticism. I just didn’t like some of your wording. You and the other gentleman need to take better account of just whom your readership is. I’m sure I make mistakes also, but it’s important that Americans understand the difference between America and the empire.

  110. Weaver says:
    @The_MasterWang

    To clarify one thing: It is useful in a debate to accuse a white globalist of acting in his racial interests. He is not doing so, but you will crush him by arguing such.

    However, it is not useful to use the same argument against an ethnocentric white. An ethnic white will be driven to actually want war more if you tell him it’s in his interests.

    There are two types of pro-war ethnocentric whites:

    1. the uneducated. These people work, have no political education, might have a high paying job, but they don’t understand politics.

    2. the idiots. Because war doesn’t serve white interests.

    If you find a pro-war ethnocentric white, realise you’re dealing with someone who is either uneducated or an idiot. Or both. He could also be CIA.

    The entire real ethnocentric white community is fiercely anti-war, probably the most antiwar segment of any in the US. If you tell us we should want war, that’s a bad strategy. That just makes war more likely…

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  111. Weaver says:
    @Bull Gator

    If China chooses to protect its trade, it will come to possess technology that cannot be stolen by others. Research tends to happen where the manufacturing is, and the manufacturing is in China.

    China can easily steal much that the US develops; but others cannot easily steal from China.

    Anyway, the US isn’t even white. Americans have been focused on wars that have never mattered, because there has never been a foreign threat to America, and we’ve been flooded by immigrants. The percentages don’t tell the full story; it’s the young who matter. The young aren’t white.

    The US used to be 89% white in 1965. The US was 100% white, in its actual citizenry, up until the 14th Amendment. There were free blacks, Amerindians, but they weren’t citizens. Blacks and Amerindians could own slaves, but they couldn’t become citizens until the 14th.

    Today, the US is different. Same name, different state.

  112. • LOL: niceland
  113. Andreas says:
    @Bull Gator

    People seem to wilfully deny the fact that Europeans and the European Americans made the majority of all significant discoveries in Science and Engineering in Human History.

    Did you notice your own use of the past tense?

    The Asians are excellent copiers or republished but not discoverers.

    What do you think of the samurai sword? Have you read any Japanese literature? And what of the Tao, the mathematical precision of the I Ching, the philosophy of Confucius, martial arts and gun powder? Throw in the Upanishads and India’s tradition of mathematics. And let’s not forget the innovative ways the Vietnamese kicked your silly behind. Sorry about all the questions. The list does go on. But do check your assumptions. You’ll be a better man for it.

    Here on this Website equal time and weight are given to both the expert and the fool.

    Indeed.

    Give me 10,000 monkeys and a long enough time and they will write the complete works of William Shakespeare. But then that is how computers work, isn’t it.

    Ah, I had always wondered how computers worked.

    But do take a class in basic statistics.

    I think that is why it is called Artificial Intelligence. Because it is FAKE Intelligence.

    touché

    Sometimes l think Phred is just another Algorithm. Running loose in the ethernet.

    Did you mean the Internet?

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    • Thanks: Showmethereal
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  114. Passer by says:
    @Max Payne

    Chinese copy-paste is not intelligence.

    Lack of reading comprehension is not a sign of intelligence either.

    China passes US to top output of influential science papers

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/China-passes-US-to-top-output-of-influential-science-papers

  115. awry says:

    The B-21 is an intercontinental nuclear bomber. What does one do with intercontinental nuclear bombers? Engage in intercontinental nuclear war. Are we sure this is a good idea? There will be no such war unless America starts it. China isn’t going to since (a) its approach to power and influence is commercial, which is working well, and (b) America has so many, many nuclear weapons of all sorts that China would be obliterated. If the US launched a first strike, the bombers would get there hours after the war was over. What would be the point?

    The B-21 is not necessarily a nuclear bomber. It can carry out conventional strikes too.
    The whole point of stealth bombers in a nuclear war is a sneak attack in a first strike scenario. The war starts the moment when they destroy the Forbidden City, the command bunkers and the land-based ICBM’s (both mobile and silo-based).

    • Replies: @Passer by
    , @showmethereal
  116. @Rich

    Do you really think Fred hates us?

    I don’t think Fred Reed hates the 1960s America he grew up in at all. He writes often with his fond memories of the old USA. Let me define who I meant by “us”, Rich. From reading his stuff, I have noticed that the guy will disparage all those Americans who have been working for years to stop what you and Mr. Reed say we should just lay back and accept.

    As one example, Peter Brimelow has been fighting against the immigration invasion since the mid-1990s, Rich. Yet Fred Reed derides the VDare people, who he even worked with, or wrote for, for a small bit. He derides Conservative Americans who have been fighting this shit for decades.

    I consider myself part of “us”, not just because I write comments about Mr. Reed being a pseudo-intelligent asshole who never gets to the root of problems. I am part of “us” because I and family members having been supporting those who have tried to end the American experiment in stupidity since the 1960s! I have my blog, which is no big thing but a little difference I can make.

    I don’t like to just give up, Rich. If it comes to what you describe, I and my family will not be in that section of the former America that you describe.

    Anyway, thanks for your question. I hope this explains my attitude about this asshole a little better.

    • Agree: frankie p
    • Replies: @Rich
  117. SafeNow says:

    Here in The OC, we have many Chinese-Americans, and I find them to be quite decent, industrious, proficient, and conscientious. Some might hate me and cuck me, because the Chinese-Americans have taken American jobs. But all I know is that when I ask my stupid questions to my smart Chinese-American doctor, he listens and explains with infinite patience and decency. And the same traits for a vet tech, meticulously writing notes with my dog’s life at stake. Good enough for me.

  118. @cylindrical crown

    How about tweets? Is the Milky Way big enough for some monkey to write a coherent tweet? (Typos are OK in tweets.)

    PS: Thanks for the calculations, C.C. That was great! I could have done the same, but didn’t think of it. Hmmm, come to think of it, what galaxy do you reside in … and do you have a tail?

  119. Wonder what Fred thinks will happen when Mexicans hold their own Purga de Blancos. Those 30-foot-high villa walls can only deflect so much…

  120. Rich says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve been fighting to stop and deport illegal aliens for years. I’m still doing all I can. Problem is, it’s over. Unless there’s a right wing coup that begins deporting all non-Europeans and Whites begin having more children (not going to happen). My bet is we’re at about 80-90 million Hispanics right now. What will 4 years of Biden do? All the dems and half the repubs favor more immigration. The border is wide open, Mexicans, Central and South Americans are swarming into the country. And many, I think it’s close to 40%, are intermarrying with White Americans. Looks to me like we’ve got a new nation. I hope I’m wrong, I wish I was wrong, my eyes and ears tell me I’m right.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  121. These corrupt forever wars will end when the Zio virus that has taken too much control over all media, foreign policy, Wall St., our economy and Washington is thwarted from their inchoate Old Testament ideas of world dominance through economic and military violence and revenge.

    Just like the early biblical hasbara propaganda of the Walls of Jericho being defeated by blowing horns which has no historical proof, our media blows horns of lies up our ass then champions democracy with a misinformed public that votes on what they mistakenly believe to be true. It ain’t working too well.

    The pull out from Afghanistan seems to herald a very big false flag in the future as the world increasingly rebels against war, various economies, globalization, the security state decadent elites, Covid protocols and even Israel!

    • Replies: @Weaver
  122. Weaver says:
    @Rich

    What does over mean? Anyway, whites are marrying blacks too. I see it all the time where I live. But even if there are only 2 whites remaining, we can still endure in some zoo exhibit in Beijing. It’s not over until there are fewer than 2.

    We wouldn’t have a new nation under your scenario, exactly. It’s more like a nation-less mass of precariats. We’d be some level lower than slaves. A people without an identity, without a history, without any tradition other than the latest talking head, telling us what to think. It’d be like how in 1984 there are sudden changes, and everyone instantly changes from one thing to its opposite. No values, no morals, just blind obedience. Some form of fuzzy “religion” mush. “Interchangeable cogs” who can be moved, without friction, from one place to another.

    But things seem to be falling apart. I doubt miscegenation is at 40%. If it is, so be it. The empire is collapsing. That is a good thing, at least if survival is even possible.

    If parents can’t keep their children from marrying nonwhites, that’s partly the fault of the parents. Miscegenation results from proximity. Maybe a small group will flee somewhere.

  123. @J

    Mao also said “a nuclear war would destroy the world – but not us” 😛

    I would say Britain/Germany is the better analogue (Japan never had a chance).
    The Brutish Empire was for all intents and purposes bankrupt by 1908,
    Germany eating their lunch, already dead but too dumb to fall down;
    (= roughly where the US are now)
    still their strategic posture carried them over two world wars,
    one they did not lose outright and one they still delude themselves they didn´t.
    And now watch them bask in the warmth of Brexit when in reality it is
    just the City peeing on them – again.

    Geostrategically China, like Germany, is on a serious hind foot – though neither
    Taiwan nor the Straits should pose real problems (and I would love to see
    plebiscites in Okinawa and Guam 😀 ).

    Even in the absence of financialization Triffin´s Paradox will bring down
    any empire i.e. the reserve currency both enables and forces you to overspend
    (on armaments) while hollowing out your industrial base i.e. sooner or later
    the only thing you have to export is armed force.
    Little Britain held fast to the gold standard long after it had become ruinous;
    Bretton Woods and then the petro- and eurodollar prolonged the spree
    (and no doubt they congratulated themselves) but will only deepen the ruin
    (and spread it around the World).

    Mao had a point – China is not Japan.

  124. Weaver says:
    @Mr. Turtle

    Yea, the core drivers today are: 1. worship of the superior American empire. 2. worship of the dream of Jewish conquest of the world, with Christian Zios supporting this even though they have alternative goals.

    Too many Americans, especially Mormons, worship the idea of our state being “the best.” We sound just like Brits. Brits will tell you, if you didn’t know, that they once had an empire. Did I mention they had an empire? Oh, and they had an empire.

    And Zios believe they will inherit the Earth. They claim they were persecuted under the Russians, persecuted in Poland, persecuted always, even as they’re in charge, as they’re expanding in power and numbers. Kristol will demand a million more Arabs be killed, then cry out that Arabs want to attack Israel/America.

    Whenever a group chooses to preserve its own traditions, its own religion, its own identity, Jews scream that such is antisemitic. They want us all to become their servants. For too many Jews, that’s what they want.

    But if it’s recognised that Jews plan on remaining separate, on preserving their identity, while others lose theirs; then, all a group needs to do is to also remain separate. If Christianity truly demands that a people cannot insist on remaining separate, then it is false. It needs to be looked at whether that is truly what Christianity says. But if we’re banned from remaining separate, we need to find a way to remain separate.

    • Replies: @Sarah
  125. @houston 1992

    Napoleon noted – and Clausewitz seconded – an empire cannot simply stop
    expanding at some arbitrary point no matter how reasonable
    (= what you would call “mission creep”) so the first major setback
    of inner necessity already happens far in overstretch, yes;

    the only question is whether we are there yet.

  126. @frankie p

    I look at hard facts. We are told Taiwan is threaten with invasion. However, they cut the size of their active army in half a decade ago and show no interest in increasing it. Their military spending remains at around 2% of GDP. Compared to around 8% of GPD for the soon to be bankrupt USA when all “national security” spending is counted. Only half our military spending is found in the budget of the Department of Defense.

    So it takes an immense and continuous propaganda campaign to convince people to ignore the fact that Taiwan has no real concern about an invasion. Every week I see BS like the article that showed up in dozens of new sites last week, in rags like Newsweek.

    Taiwan’s defense ministry reported that Chinese military airplanes—including nuclear-capable bombers—flew into the nation’s air defense identification zone on Sunday.

    Google search for this and you see it repeated everywhere. Of course any aircraft that can carry a large bomb can be called “nuclear capable” and Taiwan’s air defense zone extends into mainland China. The BBC article did the leak the truth:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58459128

    The defence ministry released a map showing a flight path north-east of the Pratas, closer to the Chinese coast than the Taiwanese coast.

    So Chinese bombers with no bombs flew along its own coast nowhere near Taiwan and that is deemed a threat!

    Remember a year ago when it was daily news about the evil Chinese cracking down on rioters in Hong Kong. Most Americans don’t realize Hong Kong is part of China. The dispute was that Hong Kong refused to extradite any wanted criminals to other Chinese states, and the CCP insisted they must. It was proven that foreign NGOs were instigating most protests and violence and most people in Hong Kong supported the crackdown. The silly Hong Kong story died, so they spun up the threat to Taiwan like they’ve done for 70 years.

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  127. Passer by says:
    @awry

    The whole point of stealth bombers in a nuclear war is a sneak attack in a first strike scenario.

    You watch too many movies. They are perfectly detectable by certain types of radars (Low-frequency radars).

    “First strike” with “stealth planes” is not possible.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @awry
  128. @Uncle Al

    I can’t listen to any form of rap, it’s like acid in the ears to me. If you want to get the message across write a normal song.

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  129. @mocissepvis

    May be he is from:

    According to the rankings (out of 100), the most free countries in the world are Finland (100), Norway (100), Sweden (100), the Netherlands (99), Luxembourg (98), Uruguay (98) and Canada (98).

  130. @Carlton Meyer

    Chine doesn’t have to invade Taiwan, it merely has to lay siege to it. And no, the US is not going to start a war over it…

  131. Rich says:
    @Weaver

    .4% of Whites are married to a black. I keep reading about a 42% of Hispanics marrying Whites. That’s a big difference. 15% of Whites are married to Asians. The majority of Whites marry Whites, but in a country that was 90% White not too long ago, this is a major change. We’re becoming a S American country. When there’s 100 million Hispanics and a ruling class that supports open borders, America is a new nation. Of course there will always be a hard core of Whites, but as Andrew Anglin and Gregory Hood have written, this won’t be our country anymore. I wish it was different, I’ll fight to save the old America in every way I can. My kids are all White and they’re married to other Whites, but a lot of Whites are marrying Hispanics and Asians. Not many marry blacks.

    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @frankie p
  132. Germany fielded 200+ divisions in the East, fighting Russia and ~ 85 divisions throughout the rest of occupied Europe.

    That’s all I need to know about the true strength of US/Allied forces.

    Cue in the ‘Battle of the Bulge

  133. Anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:

    On any forum, we sometimes encounter persons of Chinese descent who use extreme language and express rabid thoughts. Some such posters are on this very site.

    Yet in my personal experience, the Chinese I have met, in the West and in China, are quite level-headed if a tad intensely-focused on their work, business or studies. I’ve asked them why more Chinese don’t bother to engage in online discussion, in order to drown out their irrational Chinese counterparts. The rational are the vast majority.

    Aside from the language barriers, their usual answer speaks volumes. I paraphrase:

    “Why talk? People go insane with talking, and nobody listens anyway. Chinese just work, and do real things. Let the results be seen, that is all.”

    • Thanks: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
    , @Weaver
  134. Weaver says:
    @Rich

    Some percentage of those Hispanics are at least white. I agree; it’s a huge concern. I guess we’re going to be like Brazil with castes but perhaps even more diverse. Some Latino groups are ~90% white. So, a political alliance might be possible. If they could only be won over on guns.

    And yes, we’re becoming S American. We used to be 100% white (citizenry pre-14th Amendment), technically. I keep seeing white women with black children, but maybe that’s just my area.

    Glad to hear you did your job! Check out GK Chesterton’s Outline for Sanity and Belloc’s Servile State. Distributism movement. I think reading those two, Outline is fun and free online, would help at least most whites break through ideological barriers, push away from classical liberalism.

    And if you have an inclination, James Burnham’s Machiavellians and his Managerial State book. For elite theory. Currently, Jews are in charge and hate whites. That could change. History is full of bad things happening, alliances changing. I’m not saying hating Jews is good. I’m saying elite theory is important.

    Anyway, I hope I do as well as you seem to have with my life.

  135. Weaver says:
    @Passer by

    I noticed Russia went with cheaper planes recently, as part of its “modern” military. Is stealth largely a waste of money?

    Hypersonic missiles seem pretty good for first strike, but then you’d have to ask, why attack another country?

  136. @WingsofADove

    China is quite happy with the setup. US is happy with setup. US corporations are happy with setup.
    US consumers are happy with setup
    Only some politicians in US are not happy with setup.
    They do worry. and they right.
    Sooner or later the Happy days will end.
    But we do not know how and when it will end.
    If there is solution we will find it.
    And bearing the cost.

  137. @Weaver

    The fact that the Jews have enslaved you and are driving you to racial suicide doesn’t mean you aren’t our existential enemies. You are now rabid and no peaceful coexistence is possible.

  138. @showmethereal

    What is the Jewish elite’s greatest victory, totally controlling the US hyper-power and most of the West, if the USA is a failed state, the West a backwater, and the global leader is of a civilization that dares to treat Jews, not as ‘Gods Upon the Earth’, but just as mere human beings, like the rest of us?

  139. @Carlton Meyer

    The Taiwanese ADIZ extends over the Chinese mainland. The average punter has no idea what an ADIZ is, and the Western MSM presstitutes are NOT about to inform him, her or it. In Austfailia, the Chinese ADIZs over the South China Sea are regularly described by the lying cretins as ‘no-fly zones’, which egregious disinformation they never apologise for.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
  140. @Weaver

    You have attempted to enslave or exterminate any race you encounter. Like your masters, you live by feasting upon others. The world will be a better place for us if you ceased to exist. And I will gladly contribute to the war effort.

    Imagine White children in the “ethnostate” looking up at the sky in abject terror because of the murderous drones. This is what I want.

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  141. @Weaver

    Your racist ‘miscegenation’ is the realists’ ‘hybrid vigour’.

    • Disagree: Sarah, Ed Case
    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @Ed Case
  142. frankie p says:
    @Rich

    You and many others underestimate the fact that a lot of mixed blood Americans (white/Hispanic and white/Asian) will lean conservatively as the elites in the nation go further and further woke. Look at how Trump’s approval and votes among Hispanics jumped. The Mexican-Americans and Hispanic-Americans want to work and live in a society in which work is rewarded. The Asians are the same. I know that there are a lot of visible Asians in the media who are super woke, but they are just sellouts to (((our friends))), mercenaries for the almighty dollar. The deep conservative roots of Asian culture will not accept the black, homo, LGBTXYZ, open borders mess that America is becoming. Look for allies among the families of the whites married to Hispanics and Asians instead of making them the “other”.

    • Replies: @Rich
  143. @Weaver

    I do not concern myself with how they form their opinion. Idiots or CIA, all the same to me. I only care that they cease being an active existential threat. It follows that it is in our racial interest that they and anyone that looks like them cease to exist. Or at least reduced to a state of permanent subsistence farming. Subject to random drone strikes just to be sure.

    • Replies: @Weaver
  144. @Andreas

    The occasional reserve Arthur Kemp notwithstanding some of us pukes
    have read a thing or two 😀

    What do you think of the samurai sword?

    Fin de siécle Orientalism i.e. a fad;
    9th century Viking swords were technically and performance-wise
    on a par with classical (16th c.) Japanese ones and the traditional method
    (direct reduction of humus iron pan with charcoal + forging out)
    was used in Sweden for knife blades until the 1960s.
    (Don´t mean to be a blade Nazi or to insinuate the Vikings brought swords
    to Japan)
    Tokugawa era (esp. early 19th c.) swords are things of exquisite beauty,
    artisanship and taste (and very popular with European officers) but bijou,
    not for war (much like the misunderstood Hagakure).

  145. Seraphim says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    There are not only Yankee Doodle racists. Aussies have their fair share of Payne in the… Would she pull her penis out on you?

  146. Weaver says:
    @The_MasterWang

    Anyone who looks like them? You want to drone strike white people? I don’t think the power balance will ever allow you that fantasy. Russia will probably always be too strong for you to attack, if no one else.

    The US is increasingly transsexual and Latin. So, maybe you’ll grow to hate someone else, with time. You can’t kill everyone though.

    Neocons feel the same way about people who aren’t Israeli. Too much hatred.

    • Replies: @denk
  147. @Anonymous

    Too late to back out of a race war by this point. I suggest you follow through. It’s more honorable.

  148. Weaver says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    What in the Hell is hybrid vigor? There is no such thing. You get a bunch of traits that don’t fit together.

    Those aren’t realists, just people who lost their identities. The ideal is to marry someone kin to you, in most cases. The following article encourages greater kin marriage than I want, but it argues the concept: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-incest-is-best-kissi/

    represents this point of balance between the competing advantages and disadvantages of inbreeding and outbreeding

    Chinese at this website, and some of your posts seem Chinese, clearly take pride in… being Chinese. If they were to marry an Amerindian, then those children pair with Pacific Islanders, then Africans, Europeans, etc. What heritage is left? The children aren’t somehow stronger from all that. It’s just a muddle of traits that didn’t evolve together, can’t work together. At some point you need selection. And there’s going to be a lot to select against in that mess. Only a very small percentage of combinations are going to work well together like that.

    Separately, a people without an identity are blank slates as a people. They can be easily manipulated by an elite to do or become anything. It’s a status lower than slavery.

    • Agree: nokangaroos, Sarah
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  149. “China’s approach to influence and prosperity is commercial and longsighted”

    then why peg ones currency to the US dollar?

  150. Weaver says:
    @The_MasterWang

    No one who talks like you, or whose history is as poor as yours, will ever obtain any power. You’re probably not even Chinese. I’m wholly uninterested in this sort of correspondence, in any case.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  151. @R2D3

    “They make clever new products at a fraction of western prices and competitive quality”

    It’s amazing what one can do when profits don’t matter with an endless supply of slave labor.

    In my industry “tooling” China can manufacture the tooling and ship it to the USA for 50% les than it costs us to buy the steel.

    How is that possible? simple answer, they lose money on every project but gain market share and they do this buy pegging the Yuan to the US dollar and just print money.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  152. Ron Unz says:
    @Weaver

    No one who talks like you, or whose history is as poor as yours, will ever obtain any power. You’re probably not even Chinese.

    I happened to glance through this comment thread, and wondered exactly the same thing. That supposedly Chinese fellow seems to be working awfully hard to get rightwing whites to follow the George Soros line on China.

    Maybe he really is Chinese, or maybe he’s just a shill. Or quite possibly, a (((shill))…

    • Thanks: Weaver
    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  153. RoHa says:
    @Mike De Wit

    “No doubt they have breached our walls”

    Nope. You are the barbarians.

  154. @Ron Unz

    It feels surreal to have Mr. Unz himself put the triple parentheses around me. Is this what being noticed by senpai feels like?

    • Replies: @bombthe3gorgesdam
  155. San Fran, from hippies to (micro)chippies.

  156. @Weaver

    There is no such thing as a pure culture or race. We have been intermingling since we left Africa, even with Neanderthals, Denisovans and other hominids. You’re a mongrel, like the rest of us.

    • Disagree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @Weaver
  157. @interesting

    It is amazing how many dumb Yanks still think that Chinese are slaves. Chinese wages have grown rapidly for decades. Before the US CoViD19 bio-warfare attack on China, over one hundred million Chinese traveled overseas every year as tourists. If you’ve been to China you’ll find happy, friendly, moderately prosperous Chinese in their hundreds of millions, while in the USA the bulk of the populace are falling into poverty as inequality goes ballistic. How did the Chinese do it, create the greatest economic leap in history? They are smarter, better trained, better educated, better managed and better governed than the Yanks, whose only remaining strengths are murder and self-delusion.

    • LOL: Ed Case
  158. Rich says:
    @frankie p

    I’m not saying there aren’t some very conservative Hispanics and Asians, of course there are. But they are a different people with a different history and different traditions. That changes what America was.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  159. Weaver says:
    @Anonymous

    Talking can matter. Keep in mind, the US was transformed by the mass media. It talked, and we listened. Richard Weaver called it, “The Great Stereopticon.”

    With the Internet here, little people can talk back.

    Also, remember James Burnham’s lesson that even a weak opposition can provide a significant balance of power. The Soviets tried to control this by creating a false opposition, meaning both sides were essentially the same side, or so I’ve read. In the US, we seem to have the same thing, Democrats and Republicans as the same side.

    But with the Internet, control is more difficult. Little people can prevent the big from doing horrible things. It’s good to talk. Everything has its place. Nothing in excess.

  160. Weaver says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    America has an elite that identifies as foreign. Jews often don’t see themselves as white, and they seem religiously angry at everyone.

    Among the Gentiles in the elite, the elite has a global view of things. They care little for Americans. US growth has indeed pulled hundreds of millions out of poverty. As Paul Craig Roberts has noted, trickle down economics worked; it just trickled overseas to Asia.

    China, at least currently, is not flooding itself with its fellow humans of the world. You could probably squeeze 2 billion more Africans into China, if you’re really feeling that brotherhood. I say Africa, because they seem to have a surplus this century.

    While the US has bombed and terrorised the world, it has also built other parts of the world up. As with anything, there are two sides.

  161. Weaver says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    You seem quite proud of being Chinese, whatever the case.

    Are you arguing, like an historic Indian, that you have a good king; others should serve your king instead of another? And I don’t know Indian history well, but there’s some principle of first finding a good king who will protect property, then building one’s life. It’s a good principle that I very much like.

  162. Weaver says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    If you can find GK Chesterton’s “Patriotic Idea,” you’ll learn about nationalism. “Cosmopolitanism gives us one country, and it is good; nationalism gives us a hundred countries, and every one of them is best.”

    The short article is probably the purest expression of nationalism ever written, but it’s not currently easily found online. A nation is like an extended family.

  163. frankie p says:
    @Rich

    When my four great grandparents on my father’s side immigrated from Italy in the 1880s, that also changed what America was. Now I would agree that they were still European and more likely to assimilate, but there was xenophobia that lasted right up to the middle of the 20th Century, and my mother’s family, (Catholic but primarily British / Irish background) wasn’t particularly excited about the princess daughter hooking up with an Italian. My father, the youngest son in his family, never learned to speak Italian, though his father, born in Philadelphia, was a fluent speaker of Italian from birth to death. My point is that when whites marry Hispanics and Asians, there should be no freaking out and hand wringing about different history and traditions. The children of these marriages very well might be the next tide of conservative voices in the US. I am married to an Asian, and although we don’t reside in the US, I sent my son to high school in Pennsylvania, where he lived with my sister. He is based, and he will never be a wokester. He has cultural traditions of both East Asia and the US, and when I say that I mean the traditional US, where merit and hard work were appreciated and respected. Open the tent to allies. It’s our only hope.

    • Replies: @Rich
  164. Uncle Al says: • Website
    @Joe Paluka

    “it’s like acid in the ears to me” ” write a normal song”

    Hey, appointed Vegetable-in-Chief
    Worry less about the one bullet
    … with your name on it
    and more about the bullets addressed
    “To Whom It May Concern.”

  165. @Grahamsno(G64)

    “Patrol the Chinese coast” how close do you think they are???? The US subs are all large nuclear subs whic actually are NOT the best type of sub to use within the first island chain (diesel electric with air independent propulsion are better in that area). So how close do you think they are). Guam is the answer – and China has listening posts in the Mariana Trench that can hear to Guam – and they let the US know as much. So China would know. And whatever China didnt detect Russia would – and in case you didnt know Putin publicly stated they share that data with China.

    But how could US nukes take out 10 Chinese cities and not expect retaliation??? Do you not know how extensive Chinas underground tunneling to survive a nuclear attack is.?? It goes back decades to when China was under nuclear threat from both the US and Soviets. Unlike in the US the survivability is not just for the elites. But how do you propose the US would take out China’s mobile launchers??? They are not stuck in silos like US ones. They are moved around constantly and have thousands of kilometers of tunnels to hide in.

    And you do realize that anti ballistic missiledefense does not have a great testing record…. Aside from the fact that China has hypersonic missiles for which there is no defense.

    In any event what you desribe would be a war crime by the US. You think North Korea would leave California and Seattle alone??? You think Russia would ignore such a nuclear attack???

    Honestly – where on earth do you get your ideas???

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  166. @mulga mumblebrain

    There is still massive, grinding poverty in China. What you are seeing is nothing more than a veneer promoted by the CCP.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  167. Muggles says:

    Yes, another Fred Reed essay about USA bad (and doomed, again) and China good. Or Mexico good.

    Anywhere but the USA.

    But I suspect Fred’s income is all USA sourced. Of course his SS comes from the US, but I imagine like most Americans any pensions, IRAs, etc. come from the US and/or multinational investment funds.

    No one is sneaking into the China to escape the USA are they? Or into Mexico from the USA?

    This is called “revealed preference.”

    A lot of Fred’s cultural critiques and cultural observations are great, spot on. Others not.

    Most Mexicans are afraid to publicly criticize their cartels. Not merely “banned” or “cancelled” but killed or tortured. And in China, even in Hong Kong, dissenters are rarely heard or allowed to live freely as critics of the regime. They get cancelled for real.

    If Mr. Reed here attacked Mexican politics and their related cartels, how long would he survive, even as a gringo? And he would be quickly expelled or arrested for doing the same in China.

    Here in the bad ole USA, no one cares one whit about Mr. Reed and his unfavorable opinions. Good.

    China worshipers here on Unz are either naive or paid CCP trolls. There is much to admire about China overall. No doubt. But Xi is heading down the old dictatorship road there. Quashing billions in foreign investment to maintain a slippery hold on their unbalanced economy.

    So Fred can spout off and often hits the mark. But he invests not in China, but elsewhere like the US. And keeps quiet about Mexican political flaws. A little honesty about that would be a nice change.

  168. Phibbs says:

    Reed is a Jew-phile, so he does not mention that Wall Street is both Jewish and Zionist. It also lacks business ethics, as Benjamin Franklin noted about the Jews. Reed also fails to mention that the Afghanistan War was caused by America’s fanatical political, economic and moral support for Israeli-Jew crimes against the Palestinians. Gulf War Two was a war for Israel. The coming war between the Israeli-Occupied Government in Washington D.C. and Iran will be yet another war for Israel. American troops in Syria are all about advancing Israel’s self-perceived security.

  169. @Badger Down

    Yeah I thought the same thing. 30 years to 50 years ago definitely US subs has free reign. But in the 21st century US subs cant patrol near China’s shores or for much of the first island chain without being tracked. China has too many listening devices (which they learned when the US put them all around Japan ) and SIGINT… Not to mention patrols. uS subs in order to notmhe tracked have to stay out in the Pacific. Even at Guam – China can track them. That guy obviously had no clue what he was talking about. And the amount of nukes it would take to destroy chinese cities would cause global nuclear fallout. I am not sure if he gets his ideas from Breitbart or WION (India)

    • Replies: @Corrupt
  170. @cylindrical crown

    One page may contain approximately 5,000 characters (letters of the alphabet). Forget capitalization, punctuation, and spaces. There are 26 letters in the English alphabet. Therefore the chance of guessing the the proper letter is 1 chance in 26, or in fractions 1/26. Therefore, the probability of getting the first letter on the page right is 1/26. Same for the second letter, 1/26. The probability of getting both the first and second letter right is 1/26 x 1/26, or 1/26 raised to the 2nd power. The probability of getting all 5,000 characters on the page right in the proper sequence is the fraction 1/26 raised to the 5,000 power. That is a God-awful small number. How small is it; look at it from the monkey’s viewpoint.

    Infinity remains infinitely greater than any mind-bogglingly extreme finite number.

    Nevertheless, your reasoning is useful in revealing (for example) the absurd on-going over-representation of Jews in US positions of power.

  171. @frankie p

    You are 100% correct in your assessment and I have had conversation about that with people. Aside from abortion being legal – the CPC also has far more family friendly policies than the liberal west. China’s divorce rate had begun to skyrocket close to western levels. So now China institututed a “cooling off period” where they must council and attempt to reconcile beofre the divorce is granted. The rise has slowed (though still higher than in the past). Now all social policies are directed toward families having more children.
    So yeah you would the Chrisitan Righg would want to befriend China (and Singapore and Russia) — but the phrase “communist party” is a trigger word…

    Contrary to the bible they concern themselves with titles rather than deeds.

  172. Anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @Showmethereal

    But how could US nukes take out 10 Chinese cities and not expect retaliation???

    There is a vocal and even shrill MINORITY of Americans who actually believe in using a massive nuclear strike to destroy China, trusting in the evident superiority in nuclear warheads of the U.S. vis-a-vis China’s restrained and relatively modest arsenal, in order to leave the U.S. still standing after such a war.

    They forget that ALL Chinese strategic weapons are aimed not at U.S. nuclear assets but at cities, and that it has long been rumored (very credibly) that Chinese nuclear devices are ALL Cobalt-salted to inject maximum very long-term radioactivity into the enemy nation’s environment, as China does not expect to survive a nuclear war, and they have made 100% sure that anyone who attacked them also would face utter oblivion.

    But there is more. Recently, no less than 3 areas have been identified in China which look like either wind farms OR ICBM silo fields. The Chinese have made assurances that they are wind farms. No one can be sure. The number of possible ICBM silos that have been detected in each area number over 100 each, for a total of more than 300 new silos built or being built. This is in addition to the extant arsenal of 30 ICBMs already in silos and 120 to 150 rail/road-mobile missiles – which cannot be destroyed in a surprise first strike.

    Maybe no missiles will end up in the silos. The advantage of mobile ICBMs is also a weakness in deterrence – mobile missiles are untrackable, and useless for signaling.
    It may be that China is showing a willingness (and they have long had the sheer capacity) to vastly increase their arsenal if pushed, and maybe will choose to (more logically) expand their mobile ICBM force. Fixed silos serve deterrence well – they are visible.

    We do not know. I am betting that given our government’s hostility to China’s very existence, that China is in fact rapidly increasing their strategic nuclear arsenal, and not in silos either, but in far more survivable systems – mobile missiles, submarine launched, etc.

    If these moves by China do not take a nuclear strike by the U.S. permanently off the table, I don’t know what will. After all, the Washington Deep State is, in fact, suicidally insane.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Showmethereal
  173. @The_MasterWang

    FBI’s noticed you, too, for the statements you’ve published on this website confessing your aberrant, serial-killer-like desire to see children of a particular race terrorized, harmed, and murdered. Law enforcement recognizes that sick individuals like you are time bombs waiting to go off, and will act quickly to stop you from carrying out your racially specific child-murder fantasies. Asian prison gangs are very weak and will be unable to protect you from the many non-asian criminals in jail who target child-predators like yourself with great violence.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  174. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    But I am outside of their jurisdiction.

    And those aren’t fantasies. Those are my statement of hostility against our enemy. The sentiment is becoming increasingly mainstream.

    No. I don’t just mean your children. I mean to do devastating destruction to your race in general. By legally participating in the coming war, of course. I’m much worse than a terrorist, you see. I can join something far more dangerous than a terrorist cell.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  175. @awry

    “stealth” only works on unsophisticated countries that can’t detect them. Though even unsophisticated Serbia figured out how to spot them after a while and shot down two.

    • Replies: @shotgun6
  176. anonymous[887] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    There is a vocal and even shrill MINORITY of Americans who actually believe in using a massive nuclear strike to destroy China

    There are no Americans who believe this. Not even a minority. Citation please?

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  177. JLK says:

    I think the article is largely on point, and US strategy over the past two and a half decades no doubt could be better managed, but what other broad strategy can the US use? Our economy is just about fully deployed, while China has half a billion high-aptitude poor people who can step in as the economy grows and be quality producers.

    They’re holding the aces in the long run without our military containment.

  178. anonymous[887] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    It is amazing how many dumb Yanks

    The “Yanks”? This is so cringe. Did you just wake up from 100 years of cryogenic sleep after living through the flapper era and jazz age? Let me guess, you think Carnegie and Rockefeller families are still the elite families of America?

    America is run by Jews. Enough of your hasbara nonsense. I heard Tel Aviv has a vibrant tech industry. Why don’t you get a real tech job being a front-end developer or something more fulfilling? Instead you have to spam Ron Unz’s site. There’s only so much of your nonsense a WordPress site like this can handle before it crashes.

    • Agree: Ed Case
  179. Rich says:
    @frankie p

    Yes, when Italians and Greeks and Hungarians and Poles came to America it forever changed America. But we were all still Europeans with a shared Christian heritage. There was some rough going, but assimilation and adherence to Western traditions still prevailed. I lived in Asia for a long time, I like Asian people, but the fact remains that they are different. Very different in some ways. Those differences forever alter America. The extremely large influx of Mexicans and South and Central Americans is so big, that it changes the character of the nation completely. A conservative Brazilian is different than a conservative WASP. That creates a new country.

  180. @anonymous

    I wouldn’t call patriotic Americans who serve in the US armed forces a shrill minority. They gather to discuss how to destroy China and perform “academic extermination” of the Chinese survivors to lock them in the stone age forever. Among many other things. I guess that establishs proper and official hostility.

    You see, my desire to drone strike American children comes from somewhere you are familiar with.

  181. denk says:
    @Weaver

    Russia will probably always be too strong for you to attack, if no one else.

    Who’s talking about Russia, ?
    Unlike the five liars, Russians have long outgrown that ENA barbarism.

    Too much hatred.

    five liars have 0 biz hating Chinese but they do.
    Chinese have 1001 reasons hating five liars but they dont.

    War Nerd…

    It’s a full-time job, keeping track of the US/NATO campaign to start a fire somewhere on China’s borders. It’s like tracking an inept arsonist by satellite image: “Oh, there he goes again…the idiot started a trash fire next to a concrete wall.”
    ……………
    Given the history of US/China relations, from the pogroms against Chinese immigrants to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, through the demonization of Chinese mainlanders in the Cold War (which I remember distinctly from elementary school scare movies), the endless attempts to start insurgencies in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Fujian, to the nonstop violence and abuse of Asians in America, you don’t need to find reasons for Chinese people to want a war.

    The odd thing is that most of them don’t seem to. That’s a remarkable testimony to the discipline and good sense of the Chinese public…so far. And it’s also, if you’re thinking clearly, a good reason not to keep provoking China in such gross, pointless ways. A population with that level of discipline and unity, matched with zooming prosperity, technical expertise, and pride on emerging from a long nightmare, is not one to woof at.

    Fred and Carlton Meyer make good points on TW, here’s the war nerd on FUKUS unsinkable aircraft carrier … on China’s doorstep.

    https://exiledonline.com/the-war-nerd-taiwan-the-thucydides-trapper-who-cried-woof/

  182. @The_MasterWang

    Are you an Arab/Muslim? Your hate of the WASP race is similar to how the Chinese hate the right-wing japs!

    I happened to turn on my TV just after the first plane flew into the North Tower and saw the 2nd struck the South Tower live that day and I too felt some justice had finally visited upon the WASP racial regime that I had learnt to hate!

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Weaver
  183. Chinese government has for millennia been guided by the Mandate of Heaven, while the US is governed by the Mandate of the Majority.

    The Mandate of Heaven is granted when you serve the needs of the people. As long as the needs of the people are met, upheaval, chaos and revolution are not possible. When you stop serving the needs of the people, all bets are off.

    The Mandate of the Majority is granted when you use any means available to convince a majority of the people that you’re serving their needs. This is done through propaganda and theft from people outside the imperial core to improve the “lived experience” of those inside the core. However, it’s not possible to propagandize the people of the periphery contrary to their “lived experience” of loss through theft, so the system becomes more and more expensive and the majority at home are more and more exposed to what’s going on. It can’t go on for millennia. Sooner or later, the needs of the people must be met or they must be destroyed.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  184. “In the land of the blind, the ONE-eyed man is King”.

    When all are blind, playing “whack-a-mole” with each other can cause serious injury, and even death.

    Just who among you out there in AmeriKa has the FACTS on ANYTHING and has the UNmanipulated raw data to back it up ?

    This society isn’t just cracking up, it’s being torn apart, from all sides, in a furious never ending NARCISSISTIC epileptic fit of rage and fury that seems to be set to reach its zenith sooner then expected.

    Best keep your powder dry, boyz.

    You may actually need it.

  185. @Anonymous

    Anyone who thinks a nuclearvwar between major powers is winnable is simply psychotic. None of them can fly a B52 over and drop a bomb. They have to use missile fram afar which are detectable. That is why kts Mutually Assured Destruction.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  186. @Showmethereal

    But a nuclear war is actually winnable. To say it isn’t simply reflects a weakness of will and lack of vision.

    A few nuclear warheads actually do very little damage and any nation of significant size can withstand many.

    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @Showmethereal
  187. shotgun6 says:
    @beavertales

    Absolutely; in fact, if you actually look at what was “left behind”, the really big question is What the Hell did we (the US taxpayers) spend all that money on???? I suspect (a little sarcasm here) that of the fabled “84 billion” reported, 82.5 billion went to consultant fees, contractor services, “building training facilities”, the US military itself, and paying the salaries of the Afghan military and police over 20 years (since Afghanistan lacked the resources to pay themselves).
    20 years of building a military, and they were left with ZERO combat aircraft (except for approximately 25 super tucano propeller-driven trainer/”attack” planes, half of which were flown off to foreign countries, and the other half of which don’t work, and some propeller driven Cessna Caravans “configured” to fire missiles; ZERO jet attack aircraft) ZERO real attack helicopters, and a hodgepodge of mostly grounded utility aircraft and helicopters consisting of ex-Soviet equipment and “rehabbed” MD Defenders and Blackhawks (“rehabbed” meaning, old craft retired from US service, washed and given new engines at an exorbitant price with the money going to, of course, US contractors)
    For the army; besides a collection of old and worn out Soviet vehicles and “donated junk” from our allies, they have thousands of Humvees (a vehicle we ourselves consider obsolescent and are looking to replace) and a few hundred/up to 2000 (maybe) MRAPs, that we ourselves were cutting up and disposing of as “excess” in Afghanistan for years, as they were considered “surplus” to our needs and both “too complicated” for the ANA to use and maintain and “too expensive” to bother to ship back home. They have some old (but “rehabbed”, of course) Soviet D-30 howitzers, and a lot of small arms. NO tanks, or other armored fighting vehicles (putting a machine gun on on a tin can does not make it an AFV), NO self-propelled artillery, and NO real drone capability, even including reconnaissance drones. And forget about any legitimate logistical capability.

    Now, maybe that’s about all the Afghan military was capable of handling; or all we felt we could trust them with; but it certainly leads one to believe that the ANA had an extremely marginal combat capability, and couldn’t have done very well even if they had wanted to fight; and it certainly does NOT imply that the Taliban has any sort of “windfall” that will make them a “superpower”.

    I absolutely agree that anything we (US forces) left behind (as opposed to having already issued to the ANA), or anything received in-country but not-yet-issued to the ANA, should have been destroyed before we left; that it fell into Taliban hands was absolute incompetence on our part; but the idea that “somehow” all this junk is going to make the Taliban an international threat is just nonsense.

  188. shotgun6 says:
    @showmethereal

    I suspect you are correct; now that Russia and China are both building their own stealth aircraft, they should both be keenly aware of what goes into “defeating radar”, and what the antidote(s) is/are. And, the US, doing what it always does, will be happy to sell anyone who wants to buy it “stealth defeating” technology so that they can “defend themselves from the Russian and Chinese stealth threats”.
    In other words, while we continue to spend fortunes “developing” our stealth, we will at the same time sell, or give, anyone who wants to buy it the technology to defeat “the other guys” stealth. As if, somehow, that “keeps us safe”

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  189. Weaver says:
    @The_MasterWang

    It would poison the water, block out the Sun. Maybe someone living in a sealed off bunker in Iceland would survive, if he has geothermal, tidal, or wind energy keeping his hydroponics running and water flowing.

    Some could survive, but it’s not as you’re envisioning. The US has huge numbers of nukes. It might be the US wouldn’t actually launch them. It’d be very difficult, morally, to destroy another country. Some couldn’t do that, even if retaliating. But hypersonic missiles couldn’t destroy everything before a retaliation.

    Anyway, what’s the point? There’d be significant long term damage. For a period the Chinese would be in power, then they’d fall from power. Everything changes. There’s no point to such enduring destruction.

    What’s even the point of race if there’s no diversity of races to contrast with?

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  190. Weaver says:
    @Deep Thought

    I don’t think Arabs hate us that much. Arabs hate Jews, not WASPs, in my experience. People just view WASPs as dumb unthinking cattle, whose ideology is little more developed than, “gumnent bad.”

    The Chinese hate the Japanese this much even now? I suppose Japan will finish developing its own hypersonic nukes if so, for MAD survival. It cannot rely on the US, nor can South Korea.

    They need to get over their hatreds and focus on the future. Northeast Asia should become the richest part of the world, not a war zone. With deep sea mining, resources should become cheap for everyone, especially Japan.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
    , @d dan
    , @denk
  191. Mevashir says:
    @Max Payne

    Protip: Assault rifles get more results than mini-electric scooters. Ask Israel.

    Israel has both moron. And so does China.

  192. @The_MasterWang

    Do you have any idea how much more powerful today’s nuclear weapons are compared to nagasaki and hiroshima??

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  193. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    Washington’s approach is military, coercive, shortsighted, and commercially dimwitted.

    Oddly, Fredaztec-in-MehHeeCoe makes no mention Israel’s influence on American militarism via AIPAC-of-Liars and other war-mongering Zionist “influencers.”

  194. @shotgun6

    Good point. Though if you look at Russian and Chinese stealth – especially Russian – thry are more “mild” stealth. To get the smallest radar signature you have to compromise on things like maneuverability and payload. And yeah so if you hqve to tussle with another major power who can eventually spot you – it doesnt make sense to sacrifice so much (and spend so much more). The only issue is not whether they can find your planes – its just how far away. Delicate balancing act… Much cheaper and faster to design new radar than it is to design a new plane which needs to last for several decades.

  195. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bull Gator

    Give me 10,000 monkeys and a long enough time and they will write the complete works of William Shakespeare….[It] is FAKE Intelligence.

    Yes. The latter is too true. Because…

    (1) the former would never happen. The odds are “to infinity and beyond.” Tally the total letters in all of Will’s works. Then note that said letters would have to be clumped together sequentially with spaces separating them (to wit: “words”). Then punctuation. Now, what are the odds of monkeys pulling those sequence off with absolutely zero snafus? Suppose one Bonzo…after a bazillion years…flawlessly completed HAMLET. Alas, his bros would continue to tap nonsense. So the Hamlet simian would have to begin all over again. Or suppose after “infinity minus 1” everything is perfect save the 9,999th monkey omitting one period at the end of the last sentence of Macbeth: all would have to start anew on the “complete” works!

    (2) the monkeys would never know they’d completed the task. Why? They can’t read. It’d be like giving them a million dollars. They’d not know what it was or meant.

    Hence the importance of real, actual “intelligence.”

  196. @Weaver

    The Chinese hate the Japanese this much even now?

    Right-wing japs like Jennifer Suzuki can’t stop hating the Chinese for sturbornly refusing to submitting to their brutalities:

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/biden-government-just-keeps-sailing-warships-through-chinese-waters/#comment-4815889

    I suppose Japan will finish developing its own hypersonic nukes if so, for MAD survival. It cannot rely on the US, nor can South Korea.

    Will murrika allow them to do so???!!! If japland and SK had nuclear weapons, they would be more like 2 other NKs, or semi-Chinas, and became “EXISTENTIAL threats” to murrika itself!!!

    The more countries have nukes, the more multi-polar the world will become!!!!!!!!!! Ever thought about THAT?????

    • Replies: @Weaver
  197. Corrupt says:
    @Showmethereal

    “But in the 21st century US subs cant patrol near China’s shores or for much of the first island chain without being tracked.”

    If we’re talking nuclear war, the missile subs don’t need to be anywhere near the first island chain to hit anywhere in China. IRT Chinese surveillance of U.S. submarines, the only thing you can definitively say is you don’t know how well the surveillance systems operate, as it isn’t in the Chinese interest to confirm they work well or don’t work well.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  198. @Weaver

    The scenario you described is preferable to having an actively hostile race/civilization constantly seeking your undoing.

    And of course, if there’s no more diversity there will be no more point of race. THAT will finally end racism. Isn’t a nuclear holocaust grand as long as it is your enemy that burns?

  199. d dan says:
    @Weaver

    “The Chinese hate the Japanese this much even now?”

    Reading Westerners commenting about Asian issues are surreal. What type of question is this?

    For thousands of years, Chinese never invaded Japan (except during Mongolia rule). That was true even when China was the superpower of the world like the mighty Tang, or when China possessed the world super-naval force like Zheng He of Ming. China didn’t even bother to pick up tiny Ryukyu kingdom nor weak Philippines, let alone threatening Japan. Instead, China allowed Japan to learn and steal every good things China had: music, language, painting, culinary, architecture, technology, food production, religion, philosophy, … Practically every good thing Japan had before modern time, they learned it or stole it from China.

    On the other hand, when China was weak, in turmoil, or when it plunged into civil wars, we see incessant attacks from Japan. They exploited corruptions and divisions in China, they launched sneak attacks repeatedly and unprovoked aggressions for hundreds of years, causing huge damages, death, destruction and untold amount of misery.

    So, for time as long as recorded history, China never has territorial ambition in Japan, but the reverse is obviously false. Given this background, the question that should be more logically asked is why Japanese hate Chinese so much? Recent polls show over 80% of Japanese dislike or hate China – the highest country in the world – that is higher than Korea and Vietnam, where China did attack before.

    The answer is very self-apparent for the Chinese people, but somehow escapes even the supposedly intelligent and knowledgeable Westerners. While Japan never felt threatened for thousands of years, it suddenly “needed” protection from China “aggression” when American started occupying it. The brainwashing and cultural colonization is so complete that Japanese suddenly decided that they hate China and have nothing to learn from China from now onward. The Americans, the Westerners and even those busy-body self-important Indians all think that Japanese should have nuke to protect themselves from China. And they fail to pause a minute to self-reflect, never even consider the possibility that they themselves are the problem, the instigator of mistrusts, lies and the source of conflicts, wars and evils, in Asia and everywhere in the world.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Weaver
    , @showmethereal
  200. denk says:
    @Weaver

    The Chinese hate the Japanese this much even now?

    Sigh..
    If Im given one cent for answering this question every time I’d be a billionaire by now.

    What if the jap dont wanna let China forget ?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-waging-biological-warfare/?showcomments#comment-4833452

    In case the link fails, scroll to comment 233

  201. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    The DF-41 is a mobile MIRV that covers most of the US. And the JL-2 is an SLBM MIRV on Chinese subs in the Pacific. Both the DF-41 and JL-2 arsenals would be launched following any first strike on Chinese cities, and most of the population centers of the US would be hit.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  202. Sarah says:
    @Weaver

    If parents can’t keep their children from marrying nonwhites, that’s partly the fault of the parents. Miscegenation results from proximity. Maybe a small group will flee somewhere.

  203. Sarah says:
    @Weaver

    Whenever a group chooses to preserve its own traditions, its own religion, its own identity, Jews scream that such is antisemitic. They want us all to become their servants. For too many Jews, that’s what they want.

    Don’t worry, don’t care. Let them scream.

    But if it’s recognised that Jews plan on remaining separate, on preserving their identity, while others lose theirs; then, all a group needs to do is to also remain separate. If Christianity truly demands that a people cannot insist on remaining separate, then it is false. It needs to be looked at whether that is truly what Christianity says. But if we’re banned from remaining separate, we need to find a way to remain separate.

    Separate in the same country doesn’t work : see Rhodesia et South-Africa. Solution : back to Europe for Europeans. And back to Asia for Asians.

  204. Weaver says:
    @Deep Thought

    Australia just got nukes. It’d be better that Japan have nuclear subs than some land nuke that could explode during a quake. Australia is a mining colony without legal gun ownership. The US should send it a supply of pepper spray with shirts that say “no means no.”

    And I get that Australia is white, but all of these countries can’t get enough nonwhite immigrants. It’s not race, unless Japan is punished for not accepting enough immigrants.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  205. Weaver says:
    @d dan

    Japan is a rocky island. It made swords from iron sand, because it had nothing else. Japan wanted resources.

    China, today, seems focused on how it was wronged. That can lead to revenge/war. Similarly, Jews talk nonstop about how superhuman slaughter, which is hard to believe, was done against them during WWII. They use it to justify killing millions of Arabs (eg. 1m in recent Iraq War, which is hard to explain the cause for other than Israel.)

    Japan seems to refuse to apologise, expecting that an apology would lead to reparations and ultimately its conquest out of guilt.

    All I’m saying is it looks foolish for the most homogeneous, richest, lowest crime areas of the world to war. People talk of an Asian century; go for it. SK and NK, currently, are shouting at each other. Both countries are nationalist, perhaps NK more so. It’s stupid.

    Europe is, I expect, going to see instability over African immigration, Muslim. The US too. Northeast Asia doesn’t have that problem. China’s Muslims are at least kin to the Han Chinese. The “West” will be unstable.

    • Replies: @d dan
  206. d dan says:
    @Weaver

    As I said before, your comment about China is very superficial. I don’t blame you because it is almost universal among Westerners. I will respond only on the few China-related statements in your post:

    “China, today, seems focused on how it was wronged.”

    Firstly, China is NOT focused on how it was wronged. China is STILL being wronged, e.g. the total and global demonization of China and Chinese, over 80% of Japanese and over 70% of Americans (not to mentioned other European countries) dislike/hate China, encirclement and provocation by American military, constant attempts of color-revolutions and separatist efforts (Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet…), consistent intrusion on Taiwanese issues, American’s unilateral and unfair trade wars/tech wars, oppression of Huawei including arresting the CFO, not to mentioned the bioattack (if you believe Ron Unz’s theory) and calling of trillions of international reparations, and endless more.

    Secondly, China is not OVERLY focused on how it was wronged. It is usually the Westerner’s attacks that invokes defensive counter-attacks, e.g. when UK mentions about Hong Kong lost freedom, Chinese mention about opium wars. Note that in the Chinese history, Russia was the country that took the most land from China, but you seldom hear Chinese attacking Russia in Internet today, do you?

    So, a little self-reflection of Westerners’ behaviors would explain your own puzzle.

    “That can lead to revenge/war.”

    Again, this is a wrong assessment. China wants peace more than any country – that is what defines Chinese. Japanese, under occasional instigation of Americans, try to revise history to justify their previous aggressions. The intention is to make Chinese (and incidentally Korean also) angry. China wants to shelf the Diaoyu Island dispute, but Japanese constantly poke at it to cause more problems. China wants more trades, promoting the free-trade-zone among China-Japan-Korea, and Japanese politician supporting the initiative got “committed suicide”, and so on. If war started, I can tell you it is certainly America/Japan faults. For example, you called for Japan to have nuke, that certainly is a step toward war. Most Chinese (and in fact knowledgeable Americans) don’t trust right-wing Japanese to be principled and moderate, given their many sneak attacks on China, on Korea, on Russia, and of course the Pearl Harbor, and their insistence (even today) those wars are “justified”, “righteous” …

    “Japan seems to refuse to apologise…”

    And the reason is because they want to justify their wars, to revise their past glories and to recover their “honors”.

    “…expecting that an apology would lead to reparations …”

    No, it won’t. China already formally ended and settled the war reparations issue.

    “SK and NK, currently, are shouting at each other. ”

    No, they want peaceful reunifications. But the greatest obstacles is the American military presence and their objection of possible post-unification political arrangement. The talks of unification goes nowhere for simple reason: SK has no control of its own destiny.

    As you can see, you repeatedly miss the cause of the problems. Everyone needs a mirror, especially Americans and Westerners.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Thanks: showmethereal
  207. @d dan

    Japan understands that it has much more to fear from it’s near neighbor china than it does from the distant USA. You Chinese do an extremely poor job trying to persuade your neighbors that china is not a threat to them. They see right through your deception, which is why Australia will soon be aiming missiles at you from their new nuclear submarines, even though they had been making a huge amount of money from their economic relationship with china. All your neighbors (including Russia, eventually) will join an alliance with the United States to ruthlessly put an end to dangerous, arrogant Chinese nationalism/expansionism. China can look forward to many more centuries of national humiliation.

  208. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    Let’s have a proper war and find out.

    • Replies: @bombthe3gorgesdam
  209. @The_MasterWang

    If it was up to me you’d already be in an internment camp. Anyway, we are at war and you will find out.

  210. denk says:
    @bombthe3gorgesdam

    Japan understands that it has much more to fear from it’s near neighbor china than it does from the distant USA. You Chinese do an extremely poor job trying to persuade your neighbors that china is not a threat to them

    Hey asshole.
    The jap can even protect their daughters from foreign rapists running amok in their land yet they wanna fight China.
    gimme a fucking break.
    hahhahah

  211. denk says:
    @bombthe3gorgesdam

    we are at war and you will find out.

    So its not the jews’s wars, its not Israel’s wars,….

    Thank you for confirming yet again and again…

    Whats up with FUS endless wars ?

    Its the people stupid.

  212. @d dan

    Uncle-land and japland have always been on the SAME side when it comes to preying on China.

    Before WWII:

    One should keep in mind that it was in fact Japan, not China, that had benefited from these countries’ support. Japan’s primary source of raw materials like petroleum and scrap iron for its war in China, and of high-end technology like machine tools was the United States. In 1938 the United States (57.1 per cent), the United Kingdom and its empire (Malaya, Canada, India, Australia, 20.7 per cent), and the Dutch and Dutch East Indies (8.6 per cent) supplied 86.4 per cent of Japan’s imported war materials. The United States produced 60% of the world’s oil; the Dutch East Indies less than 10%; 55% of Japan’s oil came from the United States, 14% from the Soviet Union, and 10% from the Dutch Indies.

    http://apjjf.org/2012/10/37/Richard-J.-Smethurst/3825/article.html

    And after it:

    The result of the U.S. role in the occupation and in controlling the treaty process has been described by John Dower in his recent book, Embracing Defeat: “One of the most pernicious aspects of the occupation was that the Asian peoples who had suffered most from imperial Japan’s depredations– the Chinese, Koreans, Indonesians, and Filipinos had no serious role, no influential presence at all in the defeated land. They became invisible. Asian contributions to defeating the emperor’s soldiers and sailors were displaced by an all-consuming focus on the American victory in the Pacific War” (p. 27). The peripheralization of Asia in the SFPT therefore was no coincidence. It reflected the U.S.’s appropriation of the pan-Asian fight against Japanese imperialism as well as its determination to project its imperial values in the region. Japan would be its adjutant, a role for which Yoshida carefully fought. This required that the U.S. government fully nurture Japan’s dual identity — aligning it with the West and alienating it from Asia. Behind this manipulation also lay a deep-seated fear of Asian nationalism that was expressed through the demonization of communism.

    http://www.jpri.org/publications/workingpapers/wp78.html

    The US not only protected the Japanese state. It also gave protection to the known war criminals including the so-called “doctors” of Unit 731:

    http://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/USWarCrime_Coverup.html

    http://apjjf.org/-Christopher-Reed/2177/article.html

    The US also took a RACE view when it comes to the punishment of war-criminals:

    In 1945-46, representatives of the United States government made similar discoveries in both Germany and Japan, unearthing evidence of unethical experiments on human beings that could be viewed as war crimes. The outcomes in the two defeated nations, however, were strikingly different. In Germany, the U.S., influenced by the Canadian physician John Thompson, played a key role in bringing Nazi physicians to trial and publicizing their misdeeds. In Japan, the U.S. played an equally key role in concealing information about the biological warfare experiments and securing immunity from prosecution for the perpetrators. The greater force of appeals to national security and wartime exigency help to explain these different outcomes.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4487829/

    “The greater force” was, in fact, RACE. Race was the biggest factor that “explained these different outcomes”. Uncle Sam had a much greater “security and wartime exigency” in Europe with respect to the Soviet Union, as it had in Asia with respect to China– simply because the USSR was far, far more powerful than China was. The power of the USSR also explains why the Soviets got their justice by The Rape of Berlin, while the Chinese got none.
    .
    US policy after WWII has been consistent. It punishes NOT the guilty, which is Japan, but the weak, which are Japan’s former victims. It maintained “peace” in Asia NOT by dispensing justice but used its military power to perpetuate the INJUSTICE that was the cause of the war in the first place. Why should anyone be surprised that there are those who do NOT like such an arrangement??? The victims of Japan had no choice for the past 50-60 years but to swallow that injustice, because they were militarily too weak to challenge that setup. Now, however, these countries are no longer so weak and want justice!

  213. @Corrupt

    You also don’t seem to get what Mutual Assured Destruction means. So you think that the US can launch dozens of nuclear ballistic missiles from subs in the Pacific and China and Russia won’t know? Well I trust that those in the Pentagon aren’t dumb enough to think a nuclear war can be won and that there would be no retaliation against the United States… Unless you are also one of those who thinks China is Iraq. No nuclear powers know where the others nuclear submarines are at all times. What they are constantly looking for are ballistic missile launches. There is a reason why the US and Russia have agreements to notify each other of tests. Same goes for India and Pakistan… Why??? Nobody wants a mistaken ballistic missile test to be mistaken for the wrong thing and trigger immediate retaliatory launch against a test. I’m not sure about others – but China and Russia even notify each other whenever they are going to launch space rockets as well. It’s serious business. India is supposed to test a new ballistic missile on Sept. 23rd. How do I know?? They announced it publicly in the news. Why??? Same reason. They don’t want any confusion – as the sky’s are constantly watched. It’s deadly serious with only minutes to make decisions.

    But the person I was replying to earlier obviously knows nothing about the situation for him to claim they are patrolling China’s coast. Again – China is not Iraq or Syria where cruise missiles could be launched at it from near shore. So he could have only been talking nuclear and if he’s talking nuclear – it’s mutual assured destruction. Only the psychotic would be arrogant enough to think to test that.

  214. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    How refreshing to find a kindred spirit here who understands life.

    Looking forward to depriving you of everything you hold dear, up to and including your life and the lives of your loved ones. Completely within the bounds of international laws regarding warfare, of course.

  215. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    I am certain you will agree with me when I say that our respective races cannot both exist. One must end.

  216. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    Japan understands that it has much more to fear from it’s near neighbor china than it does from the distant USA.

    The japs have every reason to “fear” China– knowing what they had done to China and the Chinese people, with help from murrika:

    https://www.unz.com/article/one-billion-americans-or-one-billion-consumers-fundamental-questions-for-matt-yglesias-before-we-can-review-his-book/#comment-4206268

    They see right through your deception, which is why Australia will soon be aiming missiles at you from their new nuclear submarines, even though they had been making a huge amount of money from their economic relationship with china

    The Australiars are falling into their OWN “deception” if they think that “America’s deputy sheriff in Asia” can make China submit to whiteman’s whim:

    https://johnmenadue.com/how-australia-sabotaged-its-own-interests-in-relations-with-china/

    The Australiars will end up being someone’s hostages:

    Australia is not aligned with the US to protect itself from China. Australia is aligned with the US to protect itself from the US. As a Twitter follower recently observed, the US doesn’t have allies, only hostages

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/21/america-has-no-allies-only-hostages/

    All your neighbors (including Russia, eventually) will join an alliance with the United States to ruthlessly put an end to dangerous, arrogant Chinese nationalism/expansionism. China can look forward to many more centuries of national humiliation.

    They had tried that through Korea in 1950 and they are welcomed to try it again. And, don’t forget to put Dugout Doug in command!

    You are nothing but an “arrogant” white, who ought to live in the 19th and early 20th Century. General Milley, however, is a sensible, and rational, Westerner of the 21st Century.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-09-15/gen-milley-defends-calls-to-chinese-in-effort-to-avoid-conflict

  217. @d dan

    ‘Firstly, China is NOT focused on how it was wronged. China is STILL being wronged, e.g. the total and global demonization of China and Chinese, over 80% of Japanese and over 70% of Americans (not to mentioned other European countries) dislike/hate China,…’

    ‘Secondly, China is not OVERLY focused on how it was wronged. It is usually the Westerner’s attacks that invokes defensive counter-attacks, e.g….’

    ‘Again, this is a wrong assessment. China wants peace more than any country – that is what defines Chinese. Japanese, under occasional instigation of Americans, try to revise history to justify their previous aggressions…’

    It doesn’t matter what China DOES, or does NOT do, as long as China has AMBITIONS the white supremacists, and the honourary whites, will HATE China and the Chinese.

    As you can see, you repeatedly miss the cause of the problems. Everyone needs a mirror, especially Americans and Westerners.

    The REAL “cause of the problem” is that China HAS ambitions– something the white supremacists pretend not to understand. What China is fighting with the white West is a War of Ambitions:

    China’s ambition is to become a leading economic and technological power in the world– like so many Western powers have done. The West’s ambition, especially America’s ambition, is to make China have NO ambition!!!

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/loudoun-county-backlash-it-takes-a-chinese-immigrant-to-see-crt-is-a-mao-style-cultural-revolution/#comment-4738487

    ‘In defending the tariffs, the Trump administration has cited China’s ambition to become a world leader in tech and innovation, detailed in the “Made in China 2025” plan.’
    .
    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2160574/us-trade-panel-hears-harsh-criticism-proposed-new
    .
    Ever watched Boardwalk Empire? In one scene, a white FBI agent made a comment about Blacks having “ideas”. A China that has ambitions is like a Black having ideas– Both are unacceptable to the White supremacists!

    The white supremacists believe that it is up to them to decide what ambition China can have:

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/xi-jinping-broken-heads-and-bloodshed-for-those-who-attempt-to-bully-china-people/#comment-4758564

    So, what question should American leaders be asking? It is not whether China will become more powerful, which it certainly will, or whether it will democratize, which is out of American hands and not relevant to its security anyway. Rather, it’s whether China has ambitions beyond what the U.S. can live with…

    Which implies that the American political elites believe that it is up to them to decide what ambitions China can have.

  218. @d dan

    To be fair – China was willingly sharing culture and technology to Japan in those eras… But yeah you are correct overall

  219. @Anonymous

    Yes and the even longer range JL-3 has tested positively and is ready for service. It is just waiting for the new Type 096 subs to be commissioned. The guy Grahamsno is just trolling it seems.

  220. @Weaver

    “Australia just got nukes. ”

    Not sure what planet the 5 Eyes are on – but they can’t play dumb when states they dont like start to get nuclear powered subs too. Venezuela maybe??? They are playing a silly game

    • Agree: Weaver
    • Replies: @Weaver
  221. @bombthe3gorgesdam

    Oh wait – but I thought 3 Eyes claimed they are only going to use conventional weapons on their new nuclear subs. And who will 3 Eyes blames when Venezuela and Iran and probably Pakistan and North Korea gets those types of subs??? Your type don’t think too sensibly.
    Kind of like your screen name. How can the 3 Gorges dam be bombed? It is actually well protected. Aside from the obvious war crimes and human rights abuse of hypocrites like yourself – do you have any clue the casualties any invading country would have to absorb before it could saturate China’s defenses in order to bomb the Dam??? You guys don’t think ahead too well… No wonder there have been so many geo strategic failures…

    In any event you are an obvious clown. Japan knows China is no threat. Japan has no choice but to do what the US tells it. Same with Australia who stabbed France in the back for those new subs you are talking about.
    And here is the thing about those nuclear subs. China can build subs much faster and for much less money… In fact China has the largest nuclear submarine construction facility in the world… So in an arms race – who would you put your money on?

    https://www.popsci.com/china-nuclear-submarine-facility/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  222. @Deep Thought

    Power is zero sum. What they are doing against China is completely natural. Resources, lebensraum, and status are what men live by, not the word of god or anything else.

    Do not allow yourself to be deceived into thinking a brutal race war isn’t inevitable. Let them blame the Jews. But we have no obligation to believe them.

    • Agree: Deep Thought
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  223. Weaver says:
    @d dan

    I appreciate the reply. If Korea were to reunite, one government would need to be in charge of both. I’m all for getting the US out, but unity would be tough. I disagree that it’s as simple as the West exiting. I want the US entirely out no matter what, but that might lead to war.

    I’ll keep in mind some of your arguments. Tibet I’m sympathetic to, because the Dalai Lama publicly lamented the disappearance of whites from Europe. He spoke for us, and we’re weak. Also, it’s nice to have distinct, small nations. In the northwest, I just like the archaeology, because it could tell me about whites who were kin to me.

    But if suddenly I’m able to talk with a Chinese because you fear that most Americans want to fight over Taiwan: I’m not a typical American. I don’t want war. If you want to influence Americans, create anime and draw political cartoons, write satire. The Babylon Bee in the US, for example, is influential.

    The US government hates people like me; so, I don’t like or dislike China much as a result of the US government. But again, I’m atypical. I want trade protections against most foreign countries, including Japan, Korea, China, Europe, India, etc.

    • Replies: @d dan
  224. Weaver says:
    @Deep Thought

    You realize the strategy for hindering China would be to protect trade, hinder tech acquisition. Why is that a big deal? That’s normal, civilized competition. Alan Tonelson and Ian Fletcher are the two I follow on trade issues. Fletcher has vanished recently. Paul Craig Roberts is also good. Their fear is just that China will get ahead and then pull the ladder up. Trade can become like a caste system; the fear is the US is becoming a resource and farming colony of China, in a sense.

    But that needn’t lead to war. Anyway, the US has terrible leadership. China seems to be functioning well currently. Be happy. If the US spends militarily it will likely just spend for the sake of war profits. An actual war with China would be too damaging. Maybe you know something I don’t.

    It’s possible the US wants to provoke India, Australia, and Japan to attack China, but I think none could damage it. I just can’t imagine a war breaking out.

    The US elite wants global depopulation, but it doesn’t want to pollute the world as a war would do. So, it promotes gay and other concepts to reduce population growth.

    If China keeps out immigrants, including whites, it will probably have a wonderful future. If I want to work in China, don’t offer me citizenship. I’m not Chinese. I think that’s key to “winning” a good life for Chinese people.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  225. Weaver says:
    @showmethereal

    I agree with you. I envisioned alliances forming against China, to balance power I mean, which didn’t include the US. But the US is always there causing trouble.

    For years the US has claimed to prevent nuclear war and the spread of nuclear weapons, but it has now given them to both Israel and Australia. Did the US also give them to India? Pakistan I seem to recall developed them as a result of the US, against US intent, but I don’t really remember.

    But if China wants to be boss, it too will make terrible mistakes. I think the US and China together are to blame for Covid. It’s tough being powerful.

    When the US exits Japan, Japan will finish its nukes. I dunno what SK will do. Both benefit from US trade significantly. If the US exits the stage, as both of us want, some bad things will result, not only good. I want President Calvin Coolidge back in the US (he’s a long dead US President), but change of that magnitude is difficult to control. It would be a power vacuum.

  226. denk says:

    The ENA kicked China when its down…

    [MORE]

    They are trembling now when their victim have stood up
    https://bit.ly/3hK3O7k
    the new ENA, sans Russia, wanna put China down again.

    In fact we hear lots of white trash here bleating ,

    Russians are whites, they’r our natural ally to beat up the chinaman.

    Fact is, Russians have long evolved, the rest are still stuck in 15C cavemen barbarism.

    From what I gather, lots of white trash wet dream about bombing the threegorgesdam
    There aint no gawd damned reason in it,
    Arson is in their DNA.

    asshole like bombthethreegorges isnt a freak at the fringe, he’s the fucking mainstream ,

    The five liars have no reason to hate Chinese but they do..
    The Chinese have 1001 reasons to hate whites but they dont

    Given the history of US/China relations, from the pogroms against Chinese immigrants to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, through the demonization of Chinese mainlanders in the Cold War (which I remember distinctly from elementary school scare movies), the endless attempts to start insurgencies in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Fujian, to the nonstop violence and abuse of Asians in America, you don’t need to find reasons for Chinese people to want a war.

    The odd thing is that most of them don’t seem to

    https://exiledonline.com/the-war-nerd-taiwan-the-thucydides-trapper-who-cried-woof/

  227. denk says:

    The ENA kicked China when its down…

    [MORE]

    They are trembling now when their victim have stood up
    https://bit.ly/3hK3O7k
    the new ENA, sans Russia, wanna put China down again.

    In fact we hear lots of white trash here bleating ,

    Russians are whites, they’r our natural ally to beat up the chinaman.

    Fact is, Russians have long evolved, the rest are still stuck in 15C cavemen barbarism.

    From what I gather, lots of white trash wet dream about bombing the threegorgesdam
    There aint no gawd damned reason in it,
    Arson is in their DNA.

    asshole like bombthethreegorges isnt a freak at the fringe, he’s the fucking mainstream ,

    The five liars have no reason to hate Chinese but they do..
    The Chinese have 1001 reasons to hate whites but they dont

    Given the history of US/China relations, from the pogroms against Chinese immigrants to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, through the demonization of Chinese mainlanders in the Cold War (which I remember distinctly from elementary school scare movies), the endless attempts to start insurgencies in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Fujian, to the nonstop violence and abuse of Asians in America, you don’t need to find reasons for Chinese people to want a war.

    The odd thing is that most of them don’t seem to

    https://exiledonline.com/the-war-nerd-taiwan-the-thucydides-trapper-who-cried-woof/

  228. @The_MasterWang

    Sun Tze said:

    Do not assume that he (the enemy) will not come but rely on your own preparedness for him. Do not assume that he will not attack but rely on making yourself invincible.

    China must be prepared!

    • Replies: @Weaver
  229. Anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @showmethereal

    And here is the thing about those nuclear subs. China can build subs much faster and for much less money… In fact China has the largest nuclear submarine construction facility in the world… So in an arms race – who would you put your money on?

    China’s industrial capacity be value manufactured, in dollar exchange terms (which actually understates China’s relative size) is already some 175% that of the United States.

    That’s already something, but on top of that, China’s general economy and industrial production were also growing significantly faster than anyone else’s in the “collective West”.

    An arms race with China seems an inconceivably idiotic idea, for anyone. Good thing China limits its defense spending to a low fraction of its Gross Domestic Product.

    China is not engaging in a race, it’s growing – and that is key to the long game.

  230. Weaver says:
    @Deep Thought

    Sun Zhu also said it’s better to win over an enemy army than to fight it. My favorite quote.

  231. @Weaver

    This is a very interesting psychological trait in your race that I find fascinating. You somehow stab and smooth talk at the same time. I guess this is an attempt to confound the intented victim and ease the process.

    But we know better.

  232. @Weaver

    The standard Western critique of the Art of War is the ideas within it were tailored to the conditions that existed in China at the time, namely, rival powers struggling for supremacy in the realm. Most of his strategies won’t work in a race war. You don’t win hearts and minds with a *racial enemy*.

  233. @Anonymous

    One thing I hate the CCP for is they don’t seem to take defense seriously enough. A nation that won’t even dedicate 10% of its effort and resources to the preparation for war doesn’t have a right to exist. They allow weakness to breed and now look at the sissies on TV and kids with all sorts of degenerate habits. Fortunately the principle enemy is also degenerate and weak. But war is far more preferable to a peace upheld by weakness, greed, stupidity, and cowardice.

    • Replies: @anon
  234. @Weaver

    Agree with most of what you have said in your last several posts.

    The US is still hell-bent on maintaining its global domination, I believe, and hence the relentless pressure on China from all quarters– To make China give up, or lower, its ambitions. China will not submit– it has no intention of becoming a vassal of any country. When finally the US realises that it cannot get its way by non-military means, will it go military or accept reality?

    The accurate translation of Sun Tze’s verse is: To win a hundred victories in a hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue your enemy’s army without battle is the acme of skill.

    https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780191843730.001.0001/q-oro-ed5-00010536

    That was exactly what the US managed to do to the former USSR!!

    • Replies: @Weaver
  235. antibeast says:
    @Quartermaster

    There is still massive, grinding poverty in China.

    Agree. But Xi is doing everything he can to uplift the material standard of living and social quality of life for the bottom 30-40% of China’s population by restructuring the economy away from export industries and towards serving the domestic market. That way, more wealth would flow to the low-income regions of China which are located in the inland provinces.

    What you are seeing is nothing more than a veneer promoted by the CCP.

    China’s economic prosperity engineered by the CCP is real while the economic prosperity of the USA engineered by the Fed is a veneer. China’s problem is socio-economic inequality as the coastal cities have prospered from their export industries while inland provinces have been left behind.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  236. @Weaver

    China does NOT want to be ‘boss’. You are just projecting Five Eyes racist psychopathy onto others.

    • Agree: littlereddot
    • Thanks: showmethereal
  237. @Deep Thought

    General Milley, the US ‘traitor’, just described the Hellfire (indicative, no?)missile strike that blew seven Afghan children to pieces, as ‘righteous’. These are the most evil psychopaths that ever emerged from the Pit of Hell.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
    , @Weaver
  238. anon[843] • Disclaimer says:
    @The_MasterWang

    People like you are a tiny minority. Vast majority of chinese it seems only want revenge on Japan and are complete cowards to non-Mongoloid enemies.

  239. @anon

    and are complete cowards to non-Mongoloid enemies.

    THAT was what Dugout Doug thought about those “laundrymen”– initially!!!

    Mid-Autumn Festival is close but you still have time to change your mind before Christmas.

  240. Weaver says:
    @Deep Thought

    I appreciate being corrected on Sun Tzu, although I’m going to look it up also. Sun Zhu, Confucius, and Sima Qian (as I recall, he criticizes Taoism) are about all I’ve read on China.

    You talk of subduing China, but states also hinder one another. A unipolar order needn’t be replaced by an alternative unipolar order. A balance of power could be reached within a more multipolar order that also enables peace. Like in the Warring States Period but at peace. So, while the US certainly wishes to, ah, subjugate China, it’s alternatively very reasonable to want to instead hinder it.

    The anger by Chinese at being so hindered sounds similar to me to the anger of the US at being hindered. I don’t see the two as being very materially different. Both are managerial states; China is just better run.

    As for accepting reality, you have to understand, I couldn’t care less that China becomes stronger than the US. I agree that US government officials need to understand the change, but the conflict has nothing to do with me. I just want to help US workers with trade protections. If anything, the Chinese almost certainly hate my ethnic group less than does the American elite. I’m a WASP, a Southerner, from the founding stock. The US thus hates me.

    I can at least offer something interesting to say. The Soviet Union wasn’t as I expected. Had I perfect knowledge, in theory I might could persuade or force individuals within each state to adopt different values and actions. I think the US and Soviet Union, as well as Germany and Russia, possibly didn’t need to war. War can be necessary, but it’s often mutually harmful.

    I had always believed Jews ran Russia to subjugate humanity. But they had lost power due to Stalin. The Soviets weren’t even following Marx, certainly weren’t communist. (They were a managerial state like the US.)

    In my view, the real war, during the Cold War, was between the US elite and the US historic nation. By fighting the Cold War, my people were distracted and so obliterated by immigration and culture. It would have thus been in my interests had the US never entered not only WWII but also the Cold War. Calvin Coolidge would have been vastly better than FDR and the rest.

    I don’t fully understand WWII, partly because the US tells so many lies about it that I see it as a waste of my time to study it. But I think Hitler intended to help his people but instead gave them a tremendous loss. It would have been better had he kept Britain happy. Also, Britain shouldn’t have declared war. They fought, and it was a mistake. Both wanted to be in charge, but both were also too weak to win. Britain lost a lot, though winning.

    I don’t see things as capitalist this and that. I see nations. Aristotle wrote how one political form leads to another, then another (in a circle). Such is true political science, and managerial states are all very similar regardless. Also, change continues. So, winning can cost too much, in the long term if the results just change yet again after the price is paid. The long term is what matters.

  241. Weaver says:
    @anon

    Why revenge on Japan? The US wouldn’t defend Japan, but it’s a kin nation to you. It’s like English and Irish fighting. Greater Britain has done horrible things within to one another, but we’re still kin. Similarly, the Brits gave guns to Pacific islanders, maybe Maori in New Zealand, and the tribes used them to kill their neighboring tribes, wiped them out. Tribal hatred of their kin was so great that, like Amerindians in the US, the tribes couldn’t unite. Their highest value, instead, was to kill their own kin tribes.

    Humanity does bad things to its neighbors. But we shouldn’t give into that impulse for revenge. If anything, you risk losing heritage, damaging your own sense of identity, purpose, and meaning in this world by entering a war. “There is nothing more destructive, and thus less conservative, than war.”

  242. Weaver says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    You don’t fear that China could become as evil? I wonder how many Yemeni children have had their intelligence permanently hindered due to malnourishment, every year. The US government is quite evil. Could China resist becoming identical? Look at Syria. The US faces no threat there. It destroys those people to make space for Israel, which won’t even endure.

    Could China come to respect human lives, or will it become a US clone, indistinguishable due to the laws of power? (In the James Burnham Machiavellian sense.)

  243. d dan says:
    @Weaver

    “If Korea were to reunite, one government would need to be in charge of both.”

    Or it could be a hybrid one like China: Communist in name, but pragmatist in reality.

    ” but unity would be tough. I disagree that it’s as simple as the West exiting.”

    I actually did NOT claim it will be simple if America leave. I said “The TALKS of unification goes nowhere” (new capitalization). America is the biggest obstacle right now. North Korea and China will not agree to America military presence in the unified Korea, and America is asserting a lot of political influences on South Korea that is contradicting the goal of unification (just like the way they do for Taiwan unification). The basic facts that most Americans need to understand are:

    1950:
    1. Both sides wanted unification.
    2. Both sides were willing to use military means.

    2021:
    1. Both sides want unification.
    2. Both sides are NOT willing to use military means.

    See the window of opportunity here? So America should give peace a chance and leave. Please explain to more people.

    “Tibet I’m sympathetic to, because the Dalai Lama …”

    I hope you understand that Dalai Lama doesn’t support Tibet independence, and when he was young, he was once a CIA tool to cause problem to China.

    “I want trade protections against most foreign countries”

    Sure. But you should understand Trump’s trade war is not the way to go. It violates WTO rules, it is arbitrary (e.g. imposed tariff on tennis shoe – does he expect American to start making tennis shoe?), it is meant to hurt China, NOT to help America (e.g. encourage companies to leave China to third world, NOT to US), and it contradicts market and sound principles of cooperation, win-win and business ethics (e.g. forcing third party not to do business with Huawei, arresting the CFO…). America needs to form its own industrial and trade policies, looks for its niches and finds cooperation with China and the world, rather than acting like a bully and a sour loser anywhere, anyhow and anytime.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  244. antibeast says:
    @anon

    Vast majority of Chinese it seems only want revenge on Japan and are complete cowards to non-Mongoloid enemies.

    The reason is history as China had fought hundreds of wars against its neighbors in East Asia, including Japan, but only a few small ones against the West (Opium Wars I & II, Boxer Rebellion). The same can be said of Korea. Sure, the Chinese Communists constantly remind the Chinese people of the ‘Century of Humiliation” by the West. But the Chinese memory of the Japanese invasion during WWII is what has left a deep impact on the Chinese psyche, not the oft-repeated propaganda about the ‘Century of Humiliation’ by the West.

    China’s historical experience with the West is too ephemeral to have had any long-lasting psychological impact on the Chinese mind, unlike other Asian nations like India and the Philippines whose national identities still suffer from their colonial legacies under Western colonialism. This is the reason why the Chinese (in China) do not reflexively harbor anti-Western sentiments, unlike, say, Asians living in the West, such as The_MasterWang.

    Westerners like to believe that the Chinese must secretly admire the West which only betray their Western superiority complex regarding China. To most Chinese, the West is the ‘Other’ which is too alien for them to understand. Their most common experience of the West today is in the form of Western brands which they consume as status symbols, whether Louis Vuitton handbags, English-language tutoring or an Oxbridge diploma. Beyond those Western brands, the Chinese have no interest nor desire to emulate Westerners because the West is simply too alien to them to be relevant to their day-to-day lives. Just because Chinese consumers buy Apple’s iPhones doesn’t mean that the Chinese love the USA. They love China not the USA.

  245. @anon

    Oh you will be proven wrong in due time.

    • Replies: @anon
  246. anon[843] • Disclaimer says:
    @The_MasterWang

    well antibeast’s well-thought out, historical reply above does seem to contradict your viewpoints.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  247. @Weaver

    If the US left Japan tomorrow… Russia – China – Both Koreas would absolutely do anything to stop Japan getting nukes. No way any of them would let it happen.

    And just for the record – China doesn’t want to be anyone’s boss but China.

  248. @Anonymous

    Yeah China has a larger industrial capacity than the US – Germany and Japan combined now.
    And arms race indeed would be dumb. They think China of today is the old Soviet Union. Sad.

  249. denk says:

    The five liars circus continues….

    Election time in Canada.
    Guess whats the hottest topics ?

    How to give the Canuck a better deal ?

    Wrong.
    Its all about,

    How to be tougher on the Chinese regime.

    Canada election: Leaders spar over China in debate

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-58495766

    Main rival to Canada PM Trudeau says he would be tougher on China, may boycott some goods

    O’Toole calls for relocation of Beijing Olympics due to China’s ‘genocide’ of Uighurs

    Being ‘nice’ hasn’t made China treat Canada any better. It’s time to live up to our values and say the truth.

    As Erin O’Toole Calls Out China For Genocide, Trudeau’s Refusal To Do The Same Is Disgraceful

    The contrast between Erin O’Toole and Justin Trudeau couldn’t be any starker and is why the Conservative leader is overtaking the prime minister. The biographies explain the difference — O’Toole is a man who served in the Canadian military for years then put himself through law school and became a successful lawyer then politician. Trudeau is a trust fund kid whose principal domain “expertise” was his father’s name and network.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  250. @anon

    We will all find out someday.

    Actions are always louder than words.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  251. @denk

    Being ‘nice’ hasn’t made China treat Canada any better. It’s time to live up to our values and say the truth.

    China had been nice to the Canadian regime– so nice that it avoided accusing it of racial genocides even though it has been a well-known fact for decades. To show murrika that it does not “treat China any better”, Canada ganged up with the Trump regime to kidnap Meng Wanzhou. It is now time to hit BACK!

    As Erin O’Toole Calls Out China For Genocide, Trudeau’s Refusal To Do The Same Is Disgraceful

    It will take many genocides of WHITE children in Canada to make these whities understand that it is THEY who are the genocidalists!!!

    Moreover, it takes away attention from your own real crimes and shifts the focus on China’s imaginary ones. The world can then spend more time discussing China’s unproven, imaginary genocide in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, and focus less on Canada’s real, proven genocide at home.

    The evidence is so overwhelming, and Canada’s crimes so barbaric, that Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper even had to publicly apologize in 2008. No wonder Canada is keen to divert as much attention as it can.

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-06-26/China-is-paying-hypocritical-Western-nations-back-in-their-own-coin-11pbkcmfLyw/index.html

    • Replies: @denk
  252. denk says:
    @Deep Thought

    China bashing is a good ole five liars tradition.
    Especially during election time, when the challenger and the incumbent tried to convince the rubes who’s the better man to nail the chicoms,.

    Guess what, its a sure fire way to win votes !
    Works like a charm every time.
    In Canada for example, Erin O’toole is gaining on Trudeau cuz the Canuck reckon the prez is too soft on China. !

    The same goes for the entire five liars landscape.
    What does this say about the rubes ?

    Exhibit A

    bombthe3gorgesdam

    If it was up to me you’d already be in an internment camp. Anyway, we are at war and you will find out.

    Mark Boyd

    Taiwan is a different story. We would be militarily obligated to protect the Taiwanese. If Taiwan fell none of our NATO allies would trust us. We would have no choice but to go all in if Taiwan was attacked

    mike99588

    Cooperative Taiwanese certainly should anticipate CCP party benefits like all those fresh Christian organs or a piece of those seized properties accrued to the State…as long as there aren’t too many martyrs or secret weapons to take the fun and profit out of a CCP attack.

    Personally I think maybe it’s a CCP miscalculation like Germany in 1914 when everybody else gangs up and beats it senseless, and maybe shed a few colonies like Tibet and the Turkmens. And quits trading with it.

    Tip of an iceberg.

    Does the mother fucker even knows who’s the fourth reich of 21C ?
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47908.htm

    Yet they bleat about the jew’s wars, Israel’s wars.

    Typical gringo style, blame everything on others but themselves.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  253. antibeast says:
    @The_MasterWang

    We will all find out someday.

    Someday? History has already proven you wrong.

    If the Chinese Communists were really intent on recovering China’s national pride, they could have done so by seizing HK from the British, ending their oft-repeated propaganda of the ‘Century of Humiliation’ by the West. After taking over China in 1949, Mao could have sent PLA troops into HK to reclaim the Crown Colony from the UK. But Mao never did that because HK served as China’s lifeline to the outside world. Deng went even further by creating the Special Economic Zone in Shenzhen, across from HK, and allowed the British to continue running HK while the Chinese focused on making money in Shenzhen, a fishing village which he turned into China’s first experiment in ‘free-market capitalism’. HK remained a British Colony until its handover in 1997, that is 48 years of British rule which the Chinese Communists tolerated.

    Now, compare the behavior of the Chinese Communists with that of Indian nationalists before and after the end of the British Raj in India. After WWII, Indian nationalists demanded Indian independence right away which the British hastily granted for fear of a violent uprising against the British Raj. After achieving independence, the Indian elites became cocky enough that they sent the Indian Army to annex Portuguese-ruled Goa, thereby ending 450 years of Portuguese presence in India. Seventy years after the British left India, Indian nationalists have not gotten over their colonial experience under the British Raj, blaming British colonialism for whatever problems that plague India today.

    Actions are always louder than words.

    Here’s a video of Xi having a drink with Cameron in an English pub in London during his state visit in 2015:

    More than two hundred years ago, Lord Macartney traveled to Beijing to meet Emperor Qianlong who dismissed Macartney’s trade mission by insisting that foreign trade remain restricted to the Canton System. As history turned out, China missed the Industrial Revolution by a century due to Qianlong’s obscurantism. Now, it’s China’s turn as Xi has traveled to London to meet Cameron in order to strike a ‘deal’ with the British. In a strange twist of fate, the British are now behaving like Emperor Qianlong, dismissing Xi’s trade mission by opting to remain a vassal State of the USA Empire.

    Contrary to the CCP’s anti-Western propaganda, the Chinese don’t suffer from any lingering ressentiment against the West, a post-colonial condition afflicting much of the so-called Third World which has to do with their Western colonial legacy, making it difficult if not impossible for them to escape from the omnipresence of the West. For instance, Indian nationalists today rail against the West using the King’s English, in perfect Oxbridge accents, while taking pride in post-colonial India as the ‘world’s largest democracy’ which itself was based on the Westminster-style parliamentary democracy imported from the UK. To counter this Western colonial legacy, various Indigenism Movements have emerged in the non-Western World as manifested by the rise of Hindutva RSS/BJP activists in Modi’s India.

    As history as shown, actions indeed speak louder than words. Need I say more?

  254. @denk

    The 5-eye race will never voluntarily give up their white supremacist dream:

    … It is also consistent with the arguments of the most honest kind of “China hawk,” who argues that the real problem with Beijing is not that it wants to dominate the world, but that it might stop the U.S. from doing so in a unipolar manner.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-real-threat-america-ruling-ideology/5733887

    China, however, should continue to play the long game:

    The rise of China creates new economic and geopolitical realities that cannot be wished away. In the coming years, American leaders will have to realize that the days of unilaterally isolating rogue regimes at will are over, and the future of East Asia will depend more on what happens in Beijing than in Washington.

    The ultimate danger is in refusing to accept such realities, and pursuing policies that seek to maintain U.S. hegemony but will only result in crippling trade disputes or even war. Preventing such worst-case scenarios should be the goal of those who desire a less militarized and aggressive American foreign policy. In the long run, restraint will either be accepted by leaders in Washington and, hopefully, managed well, or ultimately be forced upon them.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/china-not-biden-picks-antony-blinken-jake-sullivan-will-dictate-ncna1248683

    • Replies: @denk
  255. Ed Case says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    In Austfailia, the Chinese ADIZs over the South China Sea are regularly described by the lying cretins as ‘no-fly zones’,

    Rubbish.
    You’re just making up disinformation.

  256. Ed Case says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The term Hybrid Vigour only has meaning in respect of selective animal breeding for specific desirable traits in the offspring .
    Unless you’re promoting Eugenic breeding programs for humans, you’re full of it.

  257. Ed Case says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Tell us about the chinese Formula One Drivers, Mulga.
    Chinese drivers on Australian roads can’t even tell their left from their right.

  258. awry says:
    @Passer by

    They are not undetectable, but much harder to detect. Also low-frequency radars are quite cumbersome and not accurate enough to use for targeting.

    • Replies: @The_MasterWang
  259. @awry

    Low observability + long range stand-off weapons = practical invisibility. Perfect for nuclear first strike.

  260. denk says:
    @Deep Thought

    There’s a whole lot more where they come from…

    [MORE]

    Exhibit B
    CauCasiAnn

    I often wondered what they have in common, but it seems there’s an unspoken reptilian language between the two.

    Gotta love how Anglin uses Bible verses and then climbs into bed with a country devoid of biblical conscience.

    He is talking about the Jews and chinks.
    Wonder how’d that racist prick account to his creator on judgment day for all those genocides thingee ?

    My lord,
    I dun wanna do this.
    Its those reptilian Jews and chinks fault.

    hehehehe

    ————-

    antibeast

    Contrary to the CCP’s anti-Western propaganda,

    Never know of any anti west propaganda,
    did I miss something ?
    ——————————
    Ed Cash

    Eugenics and population culling are western wet dream.

    Exhibit A

    In 2002, The Melbourne Age reported on newly uncovered documents detailing Nobel Peace Prize winning microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet’s plan to help the Australian government develop biological weapons for use against Indonesia and other “overpopulated” countries of South-East Asia.

    Why Chinese drivers ?
    U wanna nuke China for that ?

  261. @antibeast

    The CCP engendered “prosperity” is about as great as that engendered by the corrupt financial system in the west. China has, so far, been able to paper over the problems, but as we already know, corrupt governments can only do that for a shorty period. There are many of the same red flags waving in Red China as there are here in the US.

    • Troll: d dan
  262. @Weaver

    You recall incorrectly. India developed nukes on their own. The CIA, in their well known incompetence, was shocked when India tested their first nuke. The Paks developed theirs because of India. Not because India had developed one, bust just because India is their sworn enemy in the eyes of the Pak Army.

    The Aussies have not been give nuclear weapons. They are being helped to built nuke attack subs. Oz is much like Japan and South Korea in that they have the ability to have nuke warheads on their own pretty quickly.

    The US has done good work, in the past, to prevent nuke proliferation. That was not going to last, however, when you have two countries, Russia and Red China, with substantial stocks of such weapons. Neither is acting in a reasonable fashion, and are becoming more aggressive. As things are shaping up, nukes will become something any self respecting regime will need.

    Things are going to get far, far worse before Christ returns to rule.

    • Troll: d dan
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  263. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:

    Oregon Governor Kate Brown quietly signed a bill last month that removed the requirement for graduating high school children in the state to be proficient in reading, writing, and math, in an effort to aid “students of color.”

    I suspect this had more to do with aiding incompetent teachers who are no longer able to impart how to read, write, and do sums to students.

    (It isn’t as though teaching children to read and do maths is some sort of great mystery, either. Those now-notorious 19th and early 20th century high school exit examinations you can find online show that, once upon a time, basic literacy was taken for granted.)

    It would be interesting to know if Oregon still plans to test students to see if they have acquired basic literacy/numeracy skills before leaving school or if doing away with the testing is a part of aiding “students of color.”

    Wowee, that must terrify them over in China’s engineering departments, where students are years ahead of American in mathematics.

    Never mind the Chinese: the thought that a state government (any state government) now officially endorses a policy of graduating illiterates/innumerates ought to terrify the Americans.

  264. denk says:

    Everyday we heard gringo whine about the jews, its all jew’s wars, its Israel’s wars.…even when they fantasize about busting the threegorgesdam, nuking China, inflicting another century of humiliation to the Chinese.
    I dont make this shit up, heard it all in the forums.

    Gotta hand it to the Aussies, at least those thinking ones.
    They dont beat about the bush.

    Anxious white men look to bonds of ‘blood and history’ in AUKUS

    https://johnmenadue.com/anxious-white-men-look-to-bonds-of-blood-and-history-in-aukus/

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  265. @denk

    Gotta hand it to the Aussies, at least those thinking ones.

    They don’t beat about the bush.

    Anxious white men look to bonds of ‘blood and history’ in AUKUS

    https://johnmenadue.com/anxious-white-men-look-to-bonds-of-blood-and-history-in-aukus/

    As I have said multiple times on this forum, everything the white folks– especially the 5-eyers– do is based on RACE!!! However, there are some misguided “chinks” who choose to fool themselves into believing otherwise:

    https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/article/2109950/opinion-why-ethnic-chinese-southeast-asia-dont-owe-their

    • Replies: @antibeast
    , @denk
  266. antibeast says:
    @Deep Thought

    As I have said multiple times on this forum, everything the white folks– especially the 5-eyers– do is based on RACE!!!

    Agree. As I had predicted a while back, the QUAD wouldn’t last a Yankee minute as proven by their recently announced AUKUS agreement which excludes Japan and India because they are not ‘White’ enough to become the new sepoys for the USA. What’s going to happen to the QUAD now that the Yanks have all but abandoned the yellow Japs and the brown Indians for their fellow ‘White’ Anglo-Saxons in the UK and Australia? Quo vadis?

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  267. @antibeast

    Agree. As I had predicted a while back, the QUAD wouldn’t last a Yankee minute as proven by their recently announced AUKUS agreement which excludes Japan and India because they are not ‘White’ enough to become the new sepoys for the USA. What’s going to happen to the QUAD now that the Yanks have all but abandoned the yellow Japs and the brown Indians for their fellow ‘White’ Anglo-Saxons in the UK and Australia? Quo vadis?

    Alternatively, you may say that these 2 are 2 eyes short of the requirements to be included in AUKUS!!! 😀

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/concentric-circles-of-loyalty/#comment-4898240

    • Replies: @antibeast
  268. antibeast says:
    @Deep Thought

    India has bigger problems than not being a member of the so-called ‘Five-Eyes’. Here’s a video of two retired Indian military officers discussing the implications of the newly announced AUKUS for India’s membership in the QUAD:

    With this new AUKUS alliance, the USA has shown its willingness to share its nuclear submarine technology to Australia but not to India which had long sought such technology from the Yanks for decades. India is still heavily dependent on Russia for most of its military hardware while the Yanks are only interested in turning India into a captive market for US-made weapons.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-insight/story/why-the-us-won-t-give-india-nuclear-submarines-1854818-2021-09-20

    That leaves Indians feeling like second-class citizens as far as India’s membership in the QUAD: India gets to do the bidding of the Yanks who don’t give a rat’s ass about Indians.

    • Thanks: showmethereal
  269. denk says:
    @Deep Thought

    Come to think of it, that CaucasiAnn white trash sounds like a broad.

    It just goes to show that sinophobia in five liars land is bottom up, bi partisan and gender neutral.

    Exhibit B

    [MORE]

    Daisy

    Jews are very crude.
    Asian jews are even worse.
    Other asians are very nice tho

    .

    sic

    Wonder what constitute a nice Asian ?

    ‘Man’ with exquisite manner

    The ATM.
    Bush
    ‘Jp is our private ATM
    The beauty is …we dun even need a pin no
    hehehehe’

    The bulldog
    Suga
    ‘TW is so near, its our national interest TW is our joint protectorate ,

    How about anglos white aryan cousins.. ?
    Er, those perennial sepoys ?

    Kamala Harris Vows US Will ‘Open’ South China Sea After It Deals With ‘Priority’ Afghanistan

    Kamala Harris to Work Against China in Southeast Asia Tour

    Kamala Harris ends Asia tour with fresh jab at China

    Asia Tour of Kamala Harris All About Smearing China

    Kamala Harris blasts China during first trip to Asia as US Vice President

    Nikki Haley: US corporations need to shed their China hypocrisy, practice what they preach to Americans
    [She’s asking the gringo to quit China en mass pronto..now]

    Nikki Haley stokes anger at China to build 2024 election support

    Nations That Attend Beijing Olympics Will Give China ‘Propaganda Victory’

    Nikki Haley rips Gen. Milley over alleged phone calls to China

    Why China Keeps Me Up At Night
    https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/videos/322805269476061/

    Last but not least…
    The only nice chinaman is a prostrate chinaman
    1901
    Genzi compensation

    What follows is 120 yr humiliation..
    ============================

    FF
    2020
    China finally stand up and…..talk back !

    We aint gonna take this shit no more.

    Those damned asian jews, so very crude,.

    hehehhehe

  270. @Quartermaster

    ‘Russia and Red China, with substantial stocks of such weapons. Neither is acting in a reasonable fashion, and are becoming more aggressive. ‘

    I really don’t think we’re in a position to criticize anymore.

    At a minimum, both China and Russia act in accord with their actual capabilities, in pursuit of their rational interests. Like the perhaps ruthless but sane business rival across town, it’s possible to predict what they want, present them with clear choices, and (hopefully) co-exist in a mutually tolerable if not necessarily happy mutual understanding.

    Can the same still be said of us? Or are we the guy staggering around the sidewalk, incoherently cursing and frightening the women and children? When we rip the windshield wiper off your car, what are you supposed to do?

    We’re the batshit loon, headed by an obviously senile old geriatric and hag-ridden by an evil little Mid-East psychotic.

    Not them.

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