If Bernie wants Trump voters, he should try going after Hillary. He won’t. It’s over. Hillary v Trump. Winner … not the Democrats.

No, seriously, Hillary can’t beat Trump. The Donald is going to win.

Bernie Sanders stand no chance against Hillary Clinton. Clinton has a 55.3 percent average at RCP and Sanders run with 30 percent. In the end of the summer he was able to get about 15 points below Clinton in the national polls but since then the gap is widened. Even if Sanders came up with the most brilliant idea it would still not close the gap. Bernie Sanders “had it” a few months ago when he went out against the Washington establishment. In the beginning he was posing as a old-time protectionist crypto-nationalist Social Democrat (this what made the Social Democrats in Scandinavia so successful) but he then shifted back to the old post-liberal position (like most Liberals) and ended up swirling around the urban upper middle class instead of the bulk of the voters.

The voters he needs to beat Clinton are not for open borders, welfare to illegal aliens, minority identity politics, Free Trade, fighting climate change, LGBT-rights and war in third world countries. These voters already have a clear candidate and it is Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders blew it just as Rand Paul did when he sold out to Wall Street and the GOP establishment. Cruz didn’t sell out and continued to be a populist. It earned him a second place in the GOP race.

Christie didn’t sell out either. He continued talking and acting like RINO and voters with the fifth spot beating well-funded establishment candidate Jeb Bush. Rubio and Carson played the game well but they didn’t deliver and now they are on the way down just as Fiorina. GOP establishment candidates Kasich, Pataki and Graham were killed the same day they joined the GOP race. Graham just dropped off. Santorum and Huckabee just understand that populism to the white working and middle class would give them a burst but they are just way too late just as Sanders. Bernie could have won against Hillary if he didn’t had chicken out. Trump has never apologized for being an A-hole anti-establishment populist and therefore is a winner.

Bernie is a socialist, a committed ideologue, so he has no idea what makes people tick. His view is that many of Trump’s supporters are less wealthy and educated, therefore they should be natural members of his coalition.

In reality, people are tribal, and politics is simply a manifestation of that. The average white guy can sense the contempt that liberals have for him, his culture, and his values. He likes Trump because he goes after the media and laughs in the face of political correctness.

People aren’t political philosophers or economists. They’re not very good at knowing or understanding what policy positions help them economically. They’ve evolved rather to be social beings who understand who is like them and who isn’t. I think that they understand the double standards and contortions liberals go through to always put the blame on “racism” for all that goes wrong in the world.

Bernie could’ve been a different kind of liberal at the start of the campaign, but his embrace of Black Lives Matter scum alone ensures he’ll never be the candidate of Trump supporters.

If anything, Bernie’s got it completely backwards. His supporters should defect to Trump. A recent Tweet by Trump indicates this is already happening.

Sanders should return to Vermont where all the Volvo driving SWPLs feel safe from the dusky hordes and ideas like building walls are considered unfit topics for polite discussion.

I’m basically a working-class white and I’d gladly try my luck with Bernie. But unless he can knock the She-Devil out of the race, I’ll have to go with Trump in the general election.

Bernie Sanders is wild card for AIPAC darling Hillary Clinton. He is a Zionist Jew and blind supporter of Israel. That makes him a hater of both Muslims and Christians though he is smart enough not to wear Donald Trump’s shoes. But, I bet, if he joins Republican party, he would beat all the other Israel’s butt lickers.

http://rehmat1.com/2015/09/01/bernie-sanders-a-con-zionist-jew/

When Ron Paul was running for the nomination I tried to persuade “progressives” to support him at least in the primaries. “He’s a Libertarian” they would say and then proceed to attack Ian Rand. Bernie has the same problem. Except that he is rejected because he is “a Socialist”. It doesn’t matter. Hillary will be the nominee because all the African Americans and Mexican Americans will vote for her. Not because Bernie (or Trump for that matter) does not represent their interests. But because they want a Democrat. Any Democrat. And Hillary has the best chance of becoming President. Sorry Bernie. The GOP is more ripe for populism than the DNC.

Trump isn’t making an exclusively economic case, and Sanders can’t win them over with that.

Most of the Republican field is “going after Hillary” but it’s not helping them against Trump.

“Bernie is a socialist, a committed ideologue, so he has no idea what makes people tick.”

He knows what makes a hunter-gatherer tick because that’s how he thinks. Generally, Trump supporters are cultural descendants of settlement folk – the enemy of hunter-gatherers.

Bernie Sanders is another NYC Jew who harbors genocidal demographic intent towards the Native Born White American Working Class.

I think Bernie is right…

But people don’t really “like” Bernie……they like …… “the Donald”.

He knows what makes a hunter-gatherer tick because that’s how he thinks. Generally, Trump supporters are cultural descendants of settlement folk – the enemy of hunter-gatherers.

Huh? Sanders is fully Jewish on both sides. You might want to rethink that theory.

“Ian Rand”. That’s a good one. You really are working class, aren’t you? I can prove it: You don’t know who in the heck durn tarnation Ludwig von Mises is, do you?

The proles never actually rule; some clever opportunist always rules in their name.

Ah. But.

1. Mr. Sanders, it is unchecked immigration of FOREIGN NATIONALS that is primarily responsible for the falling wages of working-class Americans (it’s called supply and demand). If you will not address this – as FDR and Samuel Gompers did – then you are a fraud.

2. You unconditionally support Hillary Clinton. Who is joined at the hip with Wall Street, supports TPP/Obamatrade, spending trillions supporting islamic jihadists and then moving to gut scoail security to pay for it, etc. Your populism cannot be taken seriously if you will unconditionally support a plutocratic monster like The Hillary.

So right now there is only one decent defender of working Americans and that’s Donald Trump. He may be an asshole, but he’s MY asshole.

“The voters he needs to beat Clinton are not for open borders, welfare to illegal aliens, minority identity politics, Free Trade, fighting climate change, LGBT-rights and war in third world countries.”

I agree, but would suggest combining LGBT rights into minority identity politics and illegal alien welfare into open borders, plus add gun control. Your mileage may vary. Thanks.

Trump, already very wealthy, found it necessary to attend Wharton School, just to prove he wasn’t ordinary middle-class scum. And you expect that he will defend the working class! How? By insisting that workers need to work still harder?

Workers individually aren’t very astute, it seems. Combined into the “hive mind” of labor unions (or a revolutionary party) they can move the world. But an atomized working class will support capitalist demagogues.

Ayn. Sorry. Why so snotty?

No chance. Bernie Sanders, like all Democrats, wants amnesty for illegal aliens. Trump supporters want to deport illegal immigrants.

If Bernie wants Trump voters he must stop bending over for BLM thugs.

The Gonzo thing to promote is a prime minister, so we can have Russian style democracy!

“We’ve come to a point where every four years this national fever rises up — this hunger for the Saviour, the White Knight, the Man on Horseback — and whoever wins becomes so immensely powerful, like Nixon is now, that when you vote for President today you’re talking about giving a man dictatorial power for four years. I think it might be better to have the President sort of like the King of England — or the Queen — and have the real business of the presidency conducted by… a City Manager-type, a Prime Minister, somebody who’s directly answerable to Congress, rather than a person who moves all his friends into the White House and does whatever he wants for four years. The whole framework of the presidency is getting out of hand. It’s come to the point where you almost can’t run unless you can cause people to salivate and whip each other with big sticks. You almost have to be a rock star to get the kind of fever you need to survive in American politics.”
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

Maybe they can have a premier. US can be like a Libyan nuthouse. We’ll have Italian support and more cheap crappy cars for all. Meanwhile, stock up before it closes or just runs out of everything. Interest is heading up, so that should get the mortgages into default mode to help the real estate sharks and home wreckers book commissions and market bank owned houses. If the taxes don’t kill your American dream the banks will and there’s commission to be made.

Italy promises support to future Libyan premier
Yahoo News‎ – 17 hours ago
“Libya has been in chaos since the 2011 uprising that toppled dictator Moamer Kadhafi, with armed factions battling for territory and control of its oil wealth.”

Trump would just take all the oil and bomb everybody and stuff! With help from Mad Vlad the savior of Syria!

If Bernie Sanders wants Trump supporters, it would help his cause not to be driven from the stage by the “shrieking Negresses” of Black Lives Matter.

The proles never actually rule

Hope springs eternal.

Workers individually aren’t very astute

If this is true, why do vanguardistas have such a difficult time lining them up to charge the barricades?

an atomized working class will support capitalist demagogues

If this is true, does that mean the capitalist demagogues are smarter than the vanguardistas?

Workers individually aren’t very astute, it seems. Combined into the “hive mind” of labor unions (or a revolutionary party) they can move the world. But an atomized working class will support capitalist demagogues.

Very true. Astute or not, individual workers are powerless. Solidarity is the only weapon they have. If they can be kept divided against each other they will be easily exploited. That is why the ruling class works tirelessly and with great success to keep us at each others throats.

So right now there is only one decent defender of working Americans and that’s Donald Trump. He may be an asshole, but he’s MY asshole.

Agreed. Trump is opposed to free trade and open borders. The very policies that are destroying American workers. The working class wants (needs) work and wages. Not war and welfare.

“The working class wants (needs) work and wages. Not war and welfare”

Great comment , WorkingClass

Bernie Sander’s Foreign Policy=Mass murder of Conservative Orthodox Christian Russians in the Ukraine in the name of homo-pedophile filth legal marriage.

Feel the Bern…Feel the Bernie’s thermonuclear burn of Conservative Orthodox Christian Russians in the name of homo rights!!!!!

Bernie Sanders is a mass murdering War Criminal….as actor Vigo Morgenstern argued recently.

The Gonzo thing to promote is a prime minister, so we can have Russian style democracy!

We had a prime minister once. Gerald Ford.

The working class wants (needs) work and wages. Not war and welfare.

America has working people, not a “working class”.

Class is an obsession of homogeneous populations, with only one blood on their soil. Americans are too diverse to get excited about this phantasm.

If this is true, does that mean the capitalist demagogues are smarter than the vanguardistas?

The pampered, overfed toy dogs of the wives of the capitalist demagogues are smarter than “vanguardistas”.

What is it about IQ that explains this “one point forward, two points back” phenomenon? Hubris? Extra powers of self-delusion? The stuffy Calvinists of Dordt were on to something with the total depravity of man.

1. Mr. Sanders, it is unchecked immigration of FOREIGN NATIONALS that is primarily responsible for the falling wages of working-class Americans (it’s called supply and demand). If you will not address this – as FDR and Samuel Gompers did – then you are a fraud.

What immigration problem did FDR address that hadn’t already been solved by Harding, Coolidge, and their Congress years earlier? I’ll agree that keeing his hands off their policy (unlike minion LBJ) was the best decision he ever made. But New Deal America was hardly an inviting destination for migrants anyway.

The hunter-gatherer morality/culture carries on in the majority of people: leftists, i.e. Sanders. Most of the rest are of the settlement morality/culture: rightists. On a political scale, hybrids (transitioning) of the two form the centrists. A moral Venn diagram of the two intersecting created by different survival needs over evolutionary time.

In an extreme minority are the anarchists who think that survival is best without a forced hierarchy of the tribal social kind, or the forced hierarchy of the chain of command (specialization) social kind. They value the morality of freedom.

Bernie versus Trump, I will pick Trump.
On the other hand, if it’s Bernie versus Rubio or any of the other cucks, I’m going with Bernie. He’s anti-oligarch, not bad on gun control, and while he is full of the milk of human kindness for “refugees” and is an amnesty proponent, he has at least stated in the past that importing a bunch of immigrant guest workers doesn’t do any good for poor people who already live here. Bernie would be a disaster if he gets his way, but the rest are so all fired for “nuclear combat toe to toe with the rooskies,” I figure that’s a more important disaster to avoid.

actor Vigo Morgenstern…

You have some evidence for your implication that Mortensen is really Jewish?

Realistically, I think we’re far more likely to see an approximately reverse phenomenon ie., that a statistically significant fraction people who vote for Bernie in the Democratic primary, may wind up voting for The Trump come general Election Day. I certainly hope so!

Right. America is a classless society. Therefore there is no possibility of class warfare. There is no ruling class either. Only the “elites”. What we have instead of class is demographics which divide us against each other in myriad ways.

How convenient for the ruling elites.

Sanders never had a prayer once he decided not to go negative against Clinton.

>>> Bernie Sanders stand no chance against Hillary Clinton

for one thing, down at the EBT sign-up line, they look at & listen to… Bernie’s underlying demeanor and tone… and can smell that he might get angry enough to NOT piss away SWPL taxpayers’ money to keep the Section Eights bribed for an additional 4 years.

Whereas, either Clinton would run over both their grandmothers to get endorsed by an NBA player.

John Stuart Mill in On Liberty:

No government by a democracy or a numerous aristocracy, either in its political acts or in the opinions, qualities, and tone of mind which it fosters, ever did or could rise above mediocrity, except in so far as the sovereign Many have let themselves be guided (which in their best times they always have done) by the counsels and influence of a more highly gifted and instructed One or Few. The initiation of all wise or noble things, comes and must come from individuals; generally at first from some one individual. The honour and glory of the average man is that he is capable of following that initiative; that he can respond internally to wise and noble things, and be led to them with his eyes open.

Thanks David. I am going to keep this excerpt.

I am uplifted by reading this while at the same time it is anguishing for me to realize the deficiency in my knowledge in that this is the first time that I have read this.

Even more distressing is the apparent fact that learned people have read this, and in spite of that knowledge, we are still in the early stages of what appears to be an inevitable and monumental D & F.

Ayn Rand was a Russian Jewish woman who emigrated (I think as a child with Mom and Dad) to the U.S.

His acolytes call him “the Bern.”

It’s easy to commit a typo, even a wild one, on the Internet; there’s no professor grading us.

“Combined into the “hive mind” of labor unions (or a revolutionary party) they can move the world.”

Yea, the world really moved in 1789. The guillotine was a great invention.

Anyone who speaks of the “hive mind” as a good thing is not to be trusted.

With all due respect to Mr. Thompson, a Prime Minister is a lot different than a City Manager.

Yes; Trump is not a candidate like the others. The Elite Ones are trying to derail his freight train, but everything they put on the tracks has been smashed to bits. George Soros is now writing op-eds in the Guardian. “They” are getting desperate.

He is, perhaps, a Tide-Turner like Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR. For the first time, though, the tide is turning back towards tradition. Americans have, perhaps, awakened to the dangers of globalism, “free trade” and unrestrained mass immigration and are in a strong mood to change course, against the wishes of almost all other politicians (who, next to Trump, appear as wind-up dolls) and of the MSM, increasingly viewed as a hollow “man behind the curtain”. One is forced to think in Hegelian terms of “world-historical figures” like Napoleon.

His Imperial Majesty approaches Paris. Vive l’Empereur!

It might help if Bernie stopped attacking Trump instead of Hillary. It also might help if he stopped cucking himself to the BLM thugs.

You are missing the point entirely and in the process erecting a straw man argument against Bernie. The Republican party has had some success over the last 30 years by using racism and white superiority to convince lower class whites to vote against their own economic interests, the same thing they are doing with Evangelical Christians. There is also a strong populist movement in the Republican base. They are angry at the corporate takeover of all aspects of life like everyone else. They are just ignorant because they have been brainwashed. When these people hear Bernie’s message they like it better than Trump’s. Hillary is a milquetoast corporate shill, with all her talk about raising the retirement age, invading Syria, loving Israel to death, telling us we can’t have medicare for all because we need the insurance companies to be tapeworms stealing our money, and denying us care. She is everything that’s wrong with the Democratic party. She has a happy face, the “force” (farce?), and private prison owners are her biggest backers… good luck if she gets the nomination.

Sanders is another Jew who firmly believes that White men are the root of all evil. The reason he will never win over Trump’s supporters is that he, like the entire establishment, refuses to accept that identity matters. The root of peoples dissatisfaction with modern life is not merely economic but the disintegration of communities and loss of social cohesion due to massive immigration. It’s ironic that the socialist left are incapable of thinking beyond shallow economic concerns.

All of that’s probably true, but my big problem with Bernie to date is that he really doesn’t seem serious about attacking Hillary. His alt-Left critics are probably right: he’s been recruited by the Clinton machine to ‘sheepdog’ white millenials for Hillary and the Democratic Party.

The Democratic party has had some success over the last 30 years by using racism and hatred of whites to convince lower class whites to vote against their own economic interests,

There fixed it for you.

Republicans, and the Dixiecrats before them use race as a wedge issue. You ignore the influence of Fox news on an ignorant, group of inadequately educated, poor angry whites. These racists didn’t come from nowhere. They have been cultivated. You can’t just write them off as people below your dignity. The people white, black, brown and otherwise are angry. They are way ahead of the mainstream conservadems like Hillary, and the clown car of captured Republicans. They will move to the far right, or the far left. There is no answer in the Neo Liberal or Neo Conservative wings of American politics.
Polls show a landslide victory by Bernie over Trump. Hillary not so much.

The Republican party has had some success over the last 30 years by using racism and white superiority to convince lower class whites to vote against their own economic interests,

Do you really think this?

The Republican party gets poorer whites to vote for them because the Democrat party is so explicit in its anti-white ideology. The Republicans aren’t pro-white by any means. They’re just not overtly anti-white so they get votes from whites repulsed by the Dems’ rhetoric and agenda.