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Israel’s Yad Vashem is widely considered to be the authority on “Holocaust” history and remembrance.

The organization claims to have millions of documents and testimonies proving that 6 million Jews were murdered during World War II.

Millions of names of individual Jews purported to have been killed are commemorated at the museum’s “hall of names,” which can be searched by the public in its Shoah Victims database form. A common response to revisionist challenges is to point to this and say “where did they go then?”

According to the page:

Yad Vashem, together with its partners, has collected and recorded the names and biographical details of millions of victims of systematic anti-Jewish persecution during the Holocaust (Shoah) period. Close to four million eight hundred thousand of the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices are commemorated here. This database includes information regarding victims of the Shoah: those who were murdered and some whose fate has yet to be determined.

The names of more than one million victims remain unknown – and time is running out. It is our collective moral imperative to persist in our efforts to recover their names and restore their identities.

After a small and randomized study of the Yad Vashem archives, National Justice can report that after a search of approximately 15 famous Holocaust survivors, five are listed as having been explicitly murdered, in some cases multiple times.

This is only the tip of the iceberg. Many Holocaust survivors go by names like Joe, Fred, and Henry — not likely to be what they were assigned at birth. Many female ones have changed their names through marriage. Others have changed their names, especially those who moved to Israel or America after the war.

Yet, even with all of this in mind, the results are shocking.

Dario Gabbai

Dario Gabbai, who died in March 2020, became famous for claiming to have been a Sonderkommando who helped gas Jews at Auschwitz. He was exposed by Dean Irebud in 2012 as a fraud.

Gabbai, born in Thessaloniki, Greece in 1922, is listed in the Yad Vashem archives as having been “murdered” at Auschwitz three times.

Benjamin Lesser

Benjamin Lesser is the founder of the Zachor Holocaust Memorial Foundation. Lesser claims to have survived Auschwitz, Buchenwald and Dachau, and currently tours the country telling Holocaust stories. He has been featured prominently in the media.

According to his biography, he was born in Krakow, Poland in 1928.

In the Shoah victims archive, he too is listed as “murdered in the Shoah.” The source used by the database is the testimony of another well-known “survivor” named Rachel Verderber, who herself appears in the archive!

Josef Salomonovic/Salomonowicz

Josef Salomonivic/Salomonowicz (Polish spelling) is another Holocaust media personality. He says he was sent to Auschwitz. According to his testimony, the Nazis killed all the children he knew except for him. Later, Nazi officers murdered his father by injecting phenol in his heart, then taunted 6-year-old Josef with the syringe.

In his biography, he says he was born 1938 and resided in the Lodz ghetto in Poland. He too is listed as having been “presumably murdered” — twice. There are multiple additional entries for a Josef Salomonowicz in the Lodz ghetto born around the same time, which may also be him.

The source cited? A census of Jews who lived in Lodz provided to the Yad Vashem by a group called “Organization of former residents of Lodz in Israel.”

Margit Buchhalter Feldman

Margit Feldman (née Buchhalter), another “Holocaust” survivor famous enough to be commemorated by name by New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, passed away last month from the Coronavirus, as reported by NBC News.

Buchhalter held throughout her life that she was able to survive Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen just by lying to the Nazis about her age (18, instead of 15). Her parents were Joseph and Theresa Buchhalter.

She was born in Hungary and resided there during WWII. Her fate is registered as “murdered,” the source being a “list of murdered Jews from Yizkor books.”

Yitzhak Arad/Izak Rudnicki

Izak Rudnicki, born in Poland in 1926, is a “Holocaust” historian and survivor who changed his name to Arad after moving to Israel.

Despite having served as director of the Yad Vashem for 21 years (1972-1993), Arad/Rudnicki is listed in its files as having been murdered in the Holocaust. Once again, a random list of Jews in ghettoes is used as evidence.

Historical Malpractice

Judging from this small sample of famous Jews, this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Aside from the dishonesty of claiming every single Jew in an inmate registry or ghetto count was shot or gassed (in some cases multiple times), the Yad Vashem does not appear to be in any rush to delete the name of its own ex-director from its records of victims.

According to the museum, 6 million Jews died, 4.8 million are recorded in this database, and 2 million are remembered in its hall of names. Just how many Jews have visited only to see their own names among the deceased?

The most callous aspect of this hoax is that there are Jews who search in this archive for relatives only to find that they were murdered, when in fact they may still be alive.

But the fact that Jews who have dedicated their lives to Holocaust activism and “education” have not bothered to have their own names removed from this supposedly sacred list of genocide victims suggests more people may be in on this fraud than the people running the Yad Vashem.

[Correction: Further investigation has revealed that the Benjamin Lesser of the Zachor Holocaust Memorial Foundation appears to be a different individual than the one listed in the Shoah victim s archive/]

(Republished from National Justice by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. For 2000 years Jews have been taught from birth to seize any opportunity to swindle the goyim. That must have had an impact on their evolutionary path to the point that you could argue that they have been bred specifically to run cons such as this one.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  2. This super-intelligent Texan (who failed grade 1.. twice) shows what it looks like to really dig for answers to Holocaust-related questions.. that his Jewish professors did not think were worth pursuing.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?177767-1/hitlers-jewish-soldiers

  3. eah says:

    The Yad Vashem Claims These Jews Were Murdered By the Nazis. They’re Actually Alive and Giving “Holocaust” Lectures

    No doubt there are a significant number of other cases, albeit less spectacularly dishonest, e.g. ‘Holocaust’ victims who are still alive, just not making the rounds of the “survivor” lecture tour.

    But there are even more cases like the following: many German cities have streets where a Stolperstein is used to indicate where a Jew lived before arrest and/or deportation, often to some KZ — the last phrase on many is ‘Ermordet in XXX’ (‘Murdered in XXX’), where ‘XXX’ is the name of a camp — but it is certain that in nearly every case, there is no proof that the person was murdered.

    However these assumed murders have legal force in Germany, and this is used today to put elderly Germans who worked in a KZ in any capacity (z.B. als Buchhalter) on trial: the KZ is legally stipulated to have been a death camp, i.e. a place where Jews were killed as part of the ‘Holocaust’; the court accepts this as fact — then someone who worked at the camp is charged with being an ‘accessory to murder’ (Beihilfe zum Mord), regardless of whether they participated in the murders, or even knew anything about it.

  4. The right to honest information needs to be proclaimed as fundamental and universal.
    History and current reportage: arise from your graves.

    • Replies: @Wally
  5. Would like to see more in-depth analysis of these lists.

    Thank you for taking the time to offer this.

  6. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    I figured that the gig was up when Jewry got triggered by President Trump, by daring to include other victims in a memorial speech, into admitting that any Holocaust victim above the six million number was a lie (the admitted lie being the additional 5 million that brought the total to 11 million).

    Note the Jewish hand in crafting the (what I assume they thought was elegant) five million number that just happened to be an even million short of the proposed Jewish death toll. Five million is a large number, but just short of the suffering of the Jews.

    What was admitted was that the 5 million non-Jewish deaths were a lie invented by Simon Wiesenthal for increased sympathy for the Jews that were ostensibly killed.

    What I should have been less surprised about was that the admitted lie barely made the news and that Jewry still promotes the 11 million number as if the admission never happened.

    No other group would be able to get away with promoting a lie that was admitted by a mainstream faction within the group, in regard to an event with such political weight attached to it.

    This admitted lie and its lack of justified consequence is one modern event that most speaks to the truth of Jewish supremacy in the West.

    They can successfully lie even when the truth is public knowledge and in regard to anything. Because no world court will prosecute and no journalist will investigate let alone publish.

    In a non-corrupt civilization, any group caught lying on such a scale and with such consequence would be forever discredited.

    We live in Clown World.

  7. Considering that most European Jews who were alive at the time of the Holocaust would be dead of natural causes by now in any case, one is led to suspect that Yad Vashem has simply listed as murdered every Jew it can identify who was in a country conquered by the Nazis. Their ‘record’ would be meaningless.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @FactChecker
    , @Anonymous
  8. The most callous aspect of this hoax is that there are Jews who search in this archive for relatives only to find that they were murdered, when in fact they may still be alive.

    I have read once about the case of an Israeli woman or a man who thought that someone from his or her family had died in the Holocaust and discovered dozens of years later that he or she lived. But I don’t know what was the original source for the information about the supposed death of the member of the family who actually was alive.

    Buchhalter held throughout her life that she was able to survive Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen just by lying to the Nazis about her age (18, instead of 15).

    This cannot be true. I’ve read in a newspaper about the case of one boy who said that he survived a concentration camp only because his father told him not to go to certain parts of the camp which were dangerous – nothing to do with age. TV also showed a Jewish woman who had been born in a concentration camp (according to her own information) and after the war emigrated to NY with her sisters and mother. She was noticeably much younger than 18 when she was born.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Wally
    , @Wally
  9. utu says:

    Yad Vashem claims to have compiled a list of over 4 millions of names of Jews who perished during WWII. Can the list be scrutinized and challenged? What if out of 1% (40,000) randomly selected names from their list one could demonstrate that 10%, 25% or 50% of names belong to Jews who actually survived WWII or persons who did not exist or who died as combatants in Red Army and other allies arm forces?
    https://www.unz.com/article/what-happened-to-jews-sent-to-the-aktion-reinhardt-camps/?showcomments#comment-3590637

    • Replies: @Wally
  10. eah says:

    May 8 is known as Tag der Befreiung, and today, May 8, 2020, is a one-time holiday in Berlin (Tag der Befreiung ist im Jahr 2020 gesetzlicher Feiertag in Berlin) — it ‘celebrates’ the day Germany was ‘freed’ from Nazi control (Befreiung vom Nationalsozialismus) — that May 8 is generally known as Tag der Befreiung probably won’t surprise too many; still it is a bit odd that a country ‘celebrates’ losing a war — wallowing in this unending collective national guilt is seen as the duty of any/every decent German, especially politicians — questioning the practice, as Alexander Gauland of the AfD did recently, always results in widespread condemnation in the media.

  11. The Holohoax industry begs for more scrutiny.

    There are holohoax monuments all over the world now, in places as diverse as Texas, Australia and even Japan. How much goy money is being wasted on providing maintenance (cleaning, landscaping and repairs), security (CCTV and guards), and tax exemptions on this fakery? You even pay the six-figure salaries of the administrators of the US national holohoax museum.

    You don’t think the local synagogue or the Israelis pays for it, do you? The US taxpayer is fleeced for millions every year by the national holohoax museum, and the con is repeated around the world.

    • Agree: kikz
  12. anon[290] • Disclaimer says:

    About 1.1 million people, around one million of whom were European Jews, died at the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp between 1940 and 1945.
    In July 1990 the Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, reduced the estimated number of victims at Auschwitz from the four million figure engraved on the plaques down to just over 1 million. That is a reduction of almost 3 million.

    Yet the claimed 6 million figure, claimed to include the Auschwitz numbers, WAS NEVER REVISED downward by THREE MILLION. At that moment, any claims to knowing the numbers of victims are discredited.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @Wally
  13. @eah

    — wallowing in this unending collective national guilt is seen as the duty of any/every decent German, especially politicians — questioning the practice, as Alexander Gauland of the AfD did recently, always results in widespread condemnation in the media.

    People like Bernhard Schlink, author of The Reader and Guilt About the Past are also major promoters of individual and national guilt.

    They never talk about Bomber Harris and his war crimes, the rape of an estimated one million women and girls plus deaths in unsanitary Allied prisoners of war camps.

  14. Well worth reading Gerard Menuhin’s book Tell The Truth And Shame The Devil. It can be read foc at https://www.holocausthandbooks.com/dl/978-1-59148-141-6-TellTruthShameDevil-2nd-LowRes.pdf

    • Agree: Fox
    • Thanks: eah
  15. GeeBee says:
    @anon

    ‘About 1.1 million people, around one million of whom were European Jews, died at the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp between 1940 and 1945.’

    As most who have studied this grotesque swindle will know, there is a self-corroborating triangulation of evidence which shows that around 280,000 died in total, in all the German camps. The figure for deaths at Auscwitz is around 70,000, or possibly as many as 80,000. The vast majority of all these deaths were the result of the appalling typhoid fever that swept through Poland and Germany with the retreating civilians, starting in 1943.

    The three-point evidential sources are the so-called ‘death books’ (captured by the Russians in the case of Auschwitz, and only released for public scrutiny after the collapse of the USSR), the Red Cross archives at Arolsen (only ever partially opened for research, but enough to gain a total figure for deaths in all camps) and lastly the UK Intelligence decrypts of the ‘enigma’ code, intercepted and collated at Bletchley Park.

    As I said, all three sources provide a very consistent figure for total deaths. It is especially interesting that in the case of the Bletchley Park decrypts, the Germans didn’t, of course, know that they were being intercepted, and thus the top-secret reports from all the camps (which were sent daily, with the exception of Sundays) were straight from the horse’s mouth, so to speak. They included arrivals, onward movements and all deaths.

  16. @eah

    The problem in (((occupied))) Germany, is that the laws surrounding the HollowCo$t, passed by the recognized but illegal German government, is that there is a presumption that the murders actually happened. The Yad Vesham list is taken as “self evident” proof. If the alleged victim showed up to testify that he wasn’t dead, the alleged victim would be charged, like Sylvia Stolz, with denying the Hollowco$t, because the Yad Vesham list is part of the “self evident” Hollowco$t.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @Druid
  17. @GeeBee

    The Red cross records were opened only because Ernst Zundel’s lawyer, the brilliant Doug Christie, subpoenaed them for Zundel’s 1980s trial(s). Christie systematically dismantled the entire narrative.
    The fact that a woman who was interned at Auschwitz testified that there was no “extermination” is buried down the memory hole. Joseph Burg, a Jew who lived in Munich and had written several books questioning the narrative testified that he was left alone during the war. When Burg died, he was refused burial in a Jewish cemetery. Zundel paid for his plot in a Catholic cemetery.
    There is a reason Arthur Butz titled his book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse, Druid
  18. I am of the opinion that the above mentioned individuals hid themselves in the chimneys at Auschwitz Anne Frank style and waited until the Russians were closing in and then made their way out into the world to bear witness and to prove once and for all of the stupidity, gullibility and corruptibility of the goyim.

    Cheers-

  19. @Curmudgeon

    The Red cross records were opened only because Ernst Zundel’s lawyer, the brilliant Doug Christie, subpoenaed them for Zundel’s 1980s trial(s). Christie systematically dismantled the entire narrative.

    But they the Red Cross said during the trial that they never did a bodycount in the camps, they said that the ITS used their offices and basically handed out death certificates for legal purposes to next of kin or something like that – like X,Y & Z were sent to a particular camp and were never heard of again for legal purposes they were presumed dead. The Red Cross also emphatically denied that they ever inspected Auschwitz or the other notorious camps with the exception of T-Stadt.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  20. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:

    Another mystery- how many Jewish GIs died in combat? Where are their monuments? Have the numbers- Jews vs Christians- ever been released?

  21. Fifty five MILLION non-jews died in the war.

    And nobody cares.

    So why should we care about the 250K jews that perished during the war?

  22. @Anon

    They weren’t ‘Jewish’ GIs, they were ‘Mischlinge’ mixed Jews who also weren’t culturally Jewish & outside the Nazi definition of Jews albeit in a grey area, the Nazis couldn’t come up with an appropriate solution for them because they got bogged down technically trying to define them, but then so many had fought in the Wehrmacht that they had no choice but to use them given the severe manpower shortages

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @anudda
  23. tac says:
    @eah

    Here, simply examine (from their own words) and one can see exactly what the National Socialist Workers’ Party published and thus what they represented:

    [Hide MORE]
    WHY ARE WE NATIONALISTS?

    We are nationalists because we see the nation as the only way to bring all the forces of the nation together to preserve and improve our existence and the conditions under which we live.

    […]

    WHY ARE WE SOCIALISTS?

    We are socialists because we see in socialism,that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

    Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy

    […]

    WHY DO WE OPPOSE THE JEWS?

    We oppose the Jews because we are defending the freedom of the German people. The Jew is the cause and beneficiary of our slavery He has misused the social misery of the broad masses to deepen the dreadful split between the right and left of our people, to divide Germany into two halves [look familiar in today’s times?] thereby concealing the true reason for the loss of the Great War and falsifying the nature of the revolution.

    The Jew has no interest in solving the German question. Hecannot have such an interest. He depends on it remaining unsolved. If the German people formed a united community and won back its freedom, there would be no place any longer for the Jew. His hand is strongest when a people lives in domestic and international slavery, not when it is free, industrious, self-aware and determined. The Jew caused our problems, and lives from them.

    https://ww2truth.com/2019/11/19/those-damn-nazis/

    • Thanks: mark green
  24. @Colin Wright

    Kind of like covid-19 case and death counts.

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • LOL: Trinity
  25. Every since Moses, Jews have realized the power of a story to advance their interests. These days such stories are called narratives, and The Holocaust is one of the most effective because it’s also a morality play.

    Along with this, we’re reminded that the Jews will bend, fold, spindle and mutilate reality in order to give power to the narrative. Fantasy over reality, and the Christian goys fall for it each and every single time.

  26. gregor says:
    @GeeBee

    Of course they will dismiss recorded death data out of hand and say that the million plus were gassed on arrival and never recorded. To complement the argument, I would add that the recorded deaths tell a more coherent story than the official account. The recorded deaths were very high in 1942 due to typhus. At that point Auschwitz had only crematorium I with only six ovens. The 1942 death rate exceeded the cremation capacity and hence in response the Germans built crematoria II-V by early 1943. There are orders from Himmler around this time demanding that the death rate be reduced. This all fits pretty well. Yet with the official story the typhus deaths would have been minor relative to the unrecorded gassing deaths and they would have needed extraordinary cremation capacity the entire time. Another inconsistency is that the Germans seem to have switched from using Zyklon at Auschwitz to other delousing methods right when the peak killing is supposed to have begun ramping up with the deportations of the Hungarian Jews in May 1944.

  27. Anon[346] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh no not another “fake holocaust” article.do we always need reminding that there was a holocaust.

    so what if 2 million never died.

    6-2=4million.lest we forget.4 million died.OK.

    Not 4 million you say.How many then?.

    Eric striker…you want to expose the truth,right!

    So how many then died in the Holocaust

    3 million
    2 million
    1 million
    500,000
    100,000

    Pllllllllllleeeeeeeaaaassssseeeee tell me,how many exactly you think died

  28. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    As a recovering holocaust propaganda survivor I appreciate this article. After years of research I’m personally convinced every holocaust museum on this planet is nothing more than a compendium of lies and fraud.

  29. gregor says:

    Mark Weber and David Cole appeared on the Montel Williams Show in 1992. One of the Holocaust survivors they brought on was Ernest Hollander who was in Auschwitz and who said that several of his family members had been killed in the war. Funny enough though, after the show someone figured out that his brother Zoltan Hollander was actually very much alive and living in the USA. After the war, he’d ended up in Eastern Europe and they lost contact.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n1p45_Weber.html

  30. gotmituns says:

    The all jews lie about the “holocaust.” Even the jews who agree it never happened.

    • Agree: Druid
  31. refl says:

    When you first understand, how much the narrative of the Great Era of Western Democracy is nothing but a huge lie, that is an earthshattering turning point for any well meaning, openminded liberal that I once was – and still am at heart, because I simply do not see a viable alternative.

    The next realization is that you do not really have a chance to get the truth out, other then at an enormous personal cost and with little hope to be accepted by more then a fringe audience.
    Then you realize that the wrong narrative is being told further and further and is getting ever more cemented and spun in ever more shocking detail with no regard to the truth.

    Then you see that the self image of Western society is rooted in this wrong narrative, and that in uncovering the truth you withdraw the very basis of what the West thinks it is.

    How to correct it and how to regain a positive idea of our Western world?

    To make it short: I think that with corona we have possibly taken a huge step in the right direction. For once, the entire bunch of the Western peoples has a device in its face to keep it from babbeling on and on and on.

    Not a correction yet, but possibly a first step.

    Just a thought of mine, still under development…

    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @Daniel Rich
  32. The Yad Vashem Claims These Jews Were Murdered By the Nazis. They’re Actually Alive and Giving “Holocaust” Lectures

    Of course they are! Having personally been gassed to death already, these Jews are well positioned to tell us all how it was done.

    We should thank them for their sacrifice and service.

    • LOL: Curmudgeon
  33. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    One would think the number of Holocaust survivors would steadily decrease due to death by natural causes but that seems not to be the case. Perhaps due to the extra food rations given to pregnant women in Auschwitz?

    Well known liars like Elie Wiesel and Jerzy Kozinski have long ago cast doubt on the whole scam.

    If 1.1 million people died at Auschwitz from 1940-1945, that’s 200,000 people a year. That’s a lot of people! It’s also a lot of meat! Conservatively if they each weighed 100 pounds, that’s 20,000 TONS of peoplemeat per year, the equivalent of 10,000 automobiles.

    Why would you transport all those people to some place, INVENTORY them via tattoo, feed them for months, let them reproduce, then kill them? Why not just shoot them at home and take the trains out of the equation?

  34. One assumes then that there was ever only one “Eric Striker” on the planet, the author of this article?

    Without going into the factuality or otherwise of the Holocaust – I have said in comments on other posts on the subject that the “six million” figure is a fabrication – is Striker seriously trying to claim that he can prove that the dead people named and the living (or living until relatively recently) people were the same? If Striker cannot prove it, is he implying that two people cannot share a name and surname?

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  35. @Anonymous

    Only Jews at Auschwitz-Birkenau were tattooed, they were not tattooed at other camps.

    As far as the rest of your questions go: even the Holocaust True Believers admit that the Nazis were initially planning to “store” the Jews out of “Aryan” areas until they could be deported (perhaps to Madagascar) and that the mass murder solution was a late compromise, agreed to at the Wannsee Conference in January 1942. This is explicitly stated even in the Holocaust True Believer book “Auschwitz” by Lawrence Rees.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  36. @ Curmudgeon,

    It is an axiom that if you wish to make a point convincingly and maintain personal credibility doing so one should at the very least be sure of his/her facts.

    Doug Christie did not subpoena any Red Cross files for a Zundel trial. A tranche of sorts of mostly captured German WW2 documents was released by Soviet authorities only in December 1990 and the actual Red Cross Documents you refer to were released in December 1996.

    Zundel had two trials one in 1985 and then in 1988. The only involvement of the Red Cross was that in the book/pamphlet that was used as the centerpiece to charge Zundel with namely ‘Did Six Million Really Die?’ there was mention of a Red Cross report indicating that the Red Cross had visited the camps and found them satisfactory. At trial a Mr. Biedermann, delegate of the International Committee of the Red Cross testified that the Red Cross had only visited POW camps and not civilian camps and there the issue more or less died. Christie did not ” systematically dismantle the entire narrative” however he did do just that with the prosecution’s ‘survivors’ and selected professor’s testimonies. Really entertaining reading were those transcripts.

    To show you that I walk my talk I summoned up and read Zundel’s appeal verdict to make sure of my facts all the while being handicapped with a dial-up connection.

    Cheers-

    • Replies: @Saggy
    , @Curmudgeon
  37. Robjil says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    This Rabbi thinks the same way. He is getting closer to the Red Cross number.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/nazis-killed-fewer-than-1-million-jews-ny-rabbi-says-1.5384577

    A New York-based ultra-Orthodox rabbi who has posted thousands of popular outreach lectures online said in a lecture on Tuesday only about 1 million halachic Jews, meaning people born of a Jewish mother, perished in the Holocaust.

    In a video on his YouTube channel filmed at a lecture in Queens, New York, Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi cited high assimilation rates in Europe before World War II to make his claim that 80 percent of those identified as Jews killed by the Nazis during the Holocaust were not Jewish according to halakha, or Jewish law.

    “If you look at the percent of assimilation that there was in Europe, which already reached 80 percent, it’s reasonable to assume that 80 percent of the 6 million were not Jews,” said Mizrachi, who teaches at a yeshiva in Monsey.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Fluesterwitz
  38. @suicidal_canadian

    What were they doing the first 4000 years, walking the straight and narrow path?

  39. Plus side of these investigations- unmasks that a number of Jews supposedly murdered in the shoah is overblown.

    Minus- sorry guys, but censuses of Jews, from Holland, France, ..to Poland and Ukraine (and counting those who escaped to UK, Palestine, Argentina, ….) show that perhaps 4 million or more Jews had perished in the WW2.

    You just can’t explain the demographic hole.

    Also, the number of Hitler’s civilian, non-German victims is around 17 to 20 million, not 11 million.

    Here is your WW2 death toll mostly agreed on: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    • Troll: L.K
  40. brams says:

    What said Faurisson the main révisionist:
    « The so-called Hitler gas chambers and the alleged genocide of the Jews form a single historical lie which allowed a gigantic political and financial swindle whose main beneficiaries are the State of Israel and international Zionism and whose main victims are German people, but not their leaders, and the entire Palestinian people. »
    Zionist W. D. Rubinstein, a professor at Deakin University in Melbourne, wrote: “If the Holocaust is proven to be a hoax, “the number one” weapon in Israel’s propaganda arsenal would disappear ” this explains the judicial and physical persecution to silence revisionist historians and prevent any debate. Then, if the Hitlerian “gaz rooms” did not exist, the great crime of the last war becomes either Hiroshima, Nagasaki, or Dresden, Katyn, maybe London, Brest etc. all What the Nuremberg trial avoided.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  41. Emslander says:
    @refl

    When you first understand, how much the narrative of the Great Era of Western Democracy is nothing but a huge lie, that is an earthshattering turning point for any well meaning, openminded liberal that I once was – and still am at heart, because I simply do not see a viable alternative.

    And which version of WWII is more charitable to believe?

    1. That the Christian German nation organized itself into a systematically precise mechanism for gathering up and murdering millions of Jews while pursuing a world war, or

    2. That 75 million people died in WWII from direct military causes and that a lot of them were Jews.

    As a German-American, I find the first version improbable, if not impossible.

    Surely, one day the German nation will be possessed of the desire to provide the truth.

    • Replies: @Castellio
    , @paranoid goy
  42. Gabbai, born in Thessaloniki, Greece in 1922, is listed in the Yad Vashem archives as having been “murdered” at Auschwitz three times.

    Killing a man three times is clear evidence of anti semitism.

    • LOL: Craig Nelsen
  43. Truth3 says:

    Simple mathematics proves the H$C a lie.

    Seems the use of mortality tables (actuarials) blows the lie out of the water.

    Use the US mortality tables for those born between 1929 – 1931, and 1939 – 1941.

    According to the Jerusalem Post, 192,000 Holoco$t survivors are alive in Israel.

    By simple logic, roughly under half of World Jew population being in Israel, that means they claim between 300,000 and 400,000 so called ‘survivors’ are walking around, collecting checks.

    So here is the data…

    To have 300,000 (the lower bound) alive today, with NORMAL mortality (not like surviving war or disease), it would take about 10 Million Jews age 10 or less when WW2 started, to have 300k still alive today.

    Or… 1.2 million Joo babies born during the War, and normal life expectancy.

    That’s with no killing in WW2.

    No freaking way they killed anybody on purpose.

    • Replies: @Truth3
    , @a reader
  44. Isn’t Magda Goebbels’ name on the list? Someone has a sense of humor.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  45. Saggy says: • Website
    @Timur The Lame

    Frpm http://www.holohoax101.org/102/Zundelsite.htm

    The Red Cross played an ignoble role during and especially after the war when dealing with alleged “Nazi atrocity” stories and statistics. (See sworn testimony of Charles Biederman during the Zündel Trial. Did Six Million Really Die? Report of the Ev idence in the Canadian “False News” Trial of Ernst Zündel – 1988, Edited by Barbara Kulaszka, pp 80-84. It is worth reading in its entirety.)

    Below I am merely offering two excerpts of this testimony, as summarized in the Zündel Transcripts by Barbara Kulaszka in her book: “Did Six Million Really Die?”:

    “Access to the documents was limited by the Bonn Agreements of 1955 to former persecutees and their legal successors on the grounds that the documents were all person-related and therefore not open to the public. (11-2497, 2498). The wording used in the Bonn Agreement was that the archives were “only to be evaluated in the interests of the former persecutees themselves or their successors.” (12-2676). The only exception to this rule, as provided for under the agreements, was that representatives of any of the ten Allied governments of the supervisory body had the right to inspect the documents. (11-2497) Any application by one of the ten governments for access was reviewed by the Director of the ITS (Internal Tracing System); if the Director felt it was not justified, he could submit the application to the International Commission for the final decision. He could not remember any request by Israel being denied. (12-2711)”

    In other words, Israel can look at the data, but German researchers and historians cannot. Revisionists cannot. Ernst Zündel cannot. Mr. Wiesenthal, presumably, can.

    The Kulaszka trial transcript summary goes on to say:

    Biedermann confirmed that as of December 31, 1983, the total number of deaths registered with the Special Registry Office and various other registry offices was 373,468. (11-2515) This figure represented death certificates issued pursuant to received applications and was based, with respect to the Special Registry Office, on camp records kept by the Nazis during the war. (11-2516, 2517)

    Biedermann agreed that at an international conference held by the International Committee of the Camps in Vienna in 1977, the then director of the ITS, Albert de Cocatrix, gave a speech which indicated that as of December 31, 1976 a total of 357,190 names of persons who died in concentration camps had been registered at the Special Registry Office. Biedermann confirmed that these numbers actually came from the ITS. (12-2640 to 2646) He pointed out, however, that these figures resulted from applications. If an entire family had died, there was no one to make an application for a death certificate. Secondly, the ITS had complete documentation for only two of the twenty-two concentration camps. For the remainder, it had either partial or no documentation. Therefore, if an application was made for a person who had allegedly died in one of these camps, the ITS would not have the records to justify a request to the Special Registry Office for a death certificate. (12-2647)

    It is really ridiculously simple. The numbers game on which the reparations claims are based could be laid to rest tomorrow.

    • Thanks: Curmudgeon
  46. Saggy says: • Website

    The most callous aspect of this hoax is that there are Jews who search in this archive for relatives only to find that they were murdered, when in fact they may still be alive.

    What you’re missing is that the International Tracing Service has been researching the question of the whereabouts of missing Jews for 50 years, with a staff of 500, and any Jew has access to what they have discovered. Access to non-Jews is denied.

  47. They tested positive for Holocaust.
    And therefore they are Holocaust death cases.
    Can Ron Unz and utu please explain to hoaxer Eric Striker how Holocaust mortality works?

  48. This is another horse that has been beaten to death as far as I’m concerned; I’ve drawn my conclusions quite a while ago, but nary a day goes by that the national newspapers don’t publish some story/ies dealing with this. Said stories largely fall on long-deaf ears.

    There are few folks (three whom I know) of Jewish origin in the village in which I live: one is a physical caricature of the overweight, liver-lipped “ruso” as the local folks call them; number two is an intellectual homosexual; the third is an avaricious shopkeeper, feminist and loudmouthed environmentalist. Even the loudmouth has come to understand that keeping a very low profile is the wise choice here. None has assimilated into the community and none of them will. This village is a beautiful, sought-after destination, but it is largely a closed shop and there are no plans to change this, “discriminatory” though this may be. Jewish issues are of no interest here and so long as that fact is understood, why, we’re all just one big happy family!

  49. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    In Breaking the Spell Dr. Nicholas Kollerstrom goes over the math in “Alice in Numberland,” which includes the footnoted quip on p. 48,

    In all of German-occupied Europe, there were 2.4 million Jews. After the war, 3.8 million Jews applied for Holocaust reparations. Tragically, the remaining 6 million were lost.

    Kellerstrom gives several other examples of impossibly fraudulent numbers, but what’s the difference when it comes to Jewish suffering, including Jews themselves claiming that virtually all 6 million Jews living in Europe and Eastern Europe before the war were exterminated, but fortunately 4 million Jewish victims of the camps qualified for reparation payments after the war. Not everything at Yad Vashem is fake, however. In 1990 they admitted the stories about soap and lampshades were fake.

    What’s so odd is that Germany and Germans born fifty years after the war are still held accountable as a people and paying for what never happened while the unarguable Jewish essence of the Bolshevik genocide is said to have nothing to do with it.

  50. John Wear says:

    Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust center, confirmed in 1986 that more than half of the testimonies of Jewish survivors on file there are unreliable. Krakowski said that many survivors, wanting to be a part of history, may have let their imaginations run away from them. He stated that many of the testimonies on file at Yad Vashem were later proved to be inaccurate when locations and dates could not pass an expert historian’s appraisal. Krakowski commented on the Jewish survivor testimony, “Many were never in the places where they claimed to have witnessed atrocities, while others relied on second-hand information given them by friends or passing strangers.”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  51. annamaria says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The zionized Ukraine has been liberated by a united Zionist-Banderite front (Banderites are self-proclaimed neo-Nazi). The zionized Ukraine, Bulgaria, Poland, and former Chechoslovakia have been dismantling the memorials to soldiers fallen during WWII on its territory. — Not a peep from the sanctimonious thugs at the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center. The rabidly Russophobic zionists have been insulting the memory of victims of WWII for decades.

    And then look at the ongoing Wars for Israel in the Middle East. — How many children perished there for the glory of Eretz Israel? Julian Assange is in a high-security prison for exposing the crimes against humanity committed during the Wars for Israel. At the same time, American ziocons and The Friends of Israel in the UK have been supporting various moderate jihadists, including a fraud known as White Helmets. (The certified criminals Les Wexler and Ghislaine Maxwell have been shielded by the same zionist circles).

    The holobiz museums must be dismantled, whereas the whole holo-business of squealing about the “incomparable Jewish suffering and victimhood” should cease and desist. Enough already.

  52. KA says:

    What is anti semitism what is holocaust ?

    NYTimes describes Danile Pipes as Pro-Israel ( ? That it )

    This is form D Pipes :”Don’t toy with Mr. Trump’s temper, don’t infuriate Democrats and Europeans, don’t alienate Arab leaders, don’t inflame Palestinians- “https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/opinion/contributors/annexing-west-bank-israel-palestinians.html?te=1&nl=opinion-today&emc=edit_ty_20200509

    Now if Trump’s gets angry with Israel ,it is anti smetism
    Now if Democrats Europeans are infuriated and Arabs leaders are alienated from Israeli annexation ( annexation or previously from previous annexation ) then it is anti semitism
    Now if Palestinian gets inflamed ( from annexation or or previously from previous annexation ) ,this is nothing but hatred for Jews people .

    lets try this another way –

    If infuriated Trumps does something , if infuriated Democrat’s or Europeans do something to address the issue nonviolently like declaring the annexation illegal and Israeli military economic activities are illegal ,if people picket in front of the shops or if students want universities to divest from firms ,it is hate speech and anti semitism ,if you discuss showing the illegality of annexation it is anti-Semitism .

    If Palestinians and infuriated Europeans help Palestine fight the annexation then it becomes -Nebevr Again- Holocaust .

  53. @ Saggy,

    Thank you for that. I immediately went to look for a copy of the huge book Did Six Million Really Die? Edited by Barbara Kulaszka and found that I had previously bookmarked the Biedermann section (pg 80-84) myself!

    So yes the full extent of his testimony had escaped my mind. The judge. in his appeal verdict simply stated ” The pamphlet (DSMRD) alleged, purportedly relying on a Red Cross Report, that all concentration camps were really humane work camps. Mr. Biedermann…… testified that the Red Cross Report pertained exclusively to prisoner of war camps as the Red Cross personnel had not been inside any camps in which civilians were detained.”

    A paragraph later the learned judge wrote ” On and on the Crown showed that the appellant misrepresented the work of historians, misquoted witnesses, fabricated evidence and cited non existent authorities”

    Unbelievable! You are correct that the aforementioned 4 pages would be devastating on their own and I am in your debt for pointing that out to me.

    As a post-mortem it appears that the judge, knowing that Zundel will be successful in this particular appeal would use every opportunity to slander the appellant and evade scholarly analysis on salient points because after all who appeals a successful appeal?

    Cheers-

  54. gregor says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    There’s more than just a name match though. The analysis here is not absolutely dispositive for any individual case, but the matches look probable. With the Dario Gabbai name, there are only three entries in the database, and they are consistent in terms of birth year and location. Between the three DB entries and the survivor, do we have one person or four distinct people? Most likely just one. Coincidences are very possible, but if the name is common you should expect to see hits for other birth years as well, not all one year. For Yitzhak Arad, we have the original Polish name, birth year, and association with the Vilna/Wilno ghetto. Not absolute proof but likely.

    This is the sort of judgment genealogists make all the time. If you are looking for information on your great grandfather and are finding records with the right name, you have to decide if you think it’s a real match. And you consider years, locations, and whatever else you have.

    I believe it’s also a fairly common issue with customer and student databases. You try to detect probable matches using some combination of data (name, birthday, etc.).

  55. “The most callous aspect of this hoax is that there are Jews who search in this archive for relatives only to find that they were murdered”

    What utter bollocks.

    The most callous aspect of this hoax is the inter-generational guilt fraud perpetrated on white people.

  56. KA says:

    “ties with the Sunni Arab states, especially those bordering the Persian Gulf. This working relationship has been premised on the Arab governments de-emphasizing the Palestinian issue;

    Sixth, annexation would be likely to make more Palestinians eligible to become citizens of Israel. That would be a profound mistake, since its Arab citizens constitute what I believe is the ultimate enemy of Israel’s status as a Jewish state, the one that will still be standing after the threats posed by Iran and Gaza have been dealt with. 
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/opinion/contributors/annexing-west-bank-israel-palestinians.html?te=1&nl=opinion-today&emc=edit_ty_20200509

    Why did the Arabs de emphasize? What did change ? What was changed by who ? What did Arab get in return? Let’s consider—– : May be relief from Fox attack on Gulf ( in addition because of bribery of Israel by Saudi ) and may be relief from the fury of the west against Saudi and gulf over head chopping stoning and destroying of domestic reform movements and spreading (US ordered) terrorism . May be Saudi does remember the help they received from Israel when Egypt was under Morsi and when a fear of similar movement was felt by Saudi .

    Remember Iraq was transformed into a villain not because it was against Israel or proPalestinian ( the world was free from the Jews machination ,corruption , narrative ,and Jewish demands before 2001 , if Saddam were today Israeli factors would be on the top of the lists of the reason to attack Iraq ) but because of these accusations that would sell- gassing killing denying democracy rights to minorities working against US interest and supporting terrorism – to US public for war .

    Why it is antisemitism to call Jews the ultimate enemy of the west or the Christianity when Palestinian could be called ultimate enemy of the state ? What features of Israeli society will Palestinian change that has not been changed by Jewish forces in USA?

    But again if it could be refuted on the basis of the facts that Jews had not changed or harmed anything substantial , still the charge of anti-Semitism shouldn’t be invoked against those making it . Fact is not the issue because fact was and is not available for enquiry and not at all by those affected by charges of anti semitism over last 100 years or more . Trying to establish facts becomes itself anti semitism.
    Second if the charges against Palestinian or Iranian or Syrian ruling powers and militaries are refuted by the facts with no consequences for the accusers ( accusers often with premeditated known malices and destructive agenda ) then accusing Israel of false anti -human activities should have no consequences and charges of anti -semitism should not be entertained .

  57. Truth3 says:
    @Truth3

    Here is a simple mathematical model of how impossible the so called H$C numbers are…

    Start with… sample Population Pyramid of Jews in the period 1939 – 1945.

    Estimated total World Jew 1939 population = 16,000,000 (high estimate)

    Assume a skewed towards younger distribution…

    Group A… Add in those Jews born from 1939 to 1944 = ~1 Million

    Group B… 1939 Ages 0-4 = 6%+ of total = ~ 1 Million

    Group C… 1939 Ages 5-9 = 6%+ of total = ~ 1 Million

    Group D… 1939 Ages 10-14 = 6%+ of total = ~ 1 Million

    Factor Life Expectancy to 2020 for each Group… with NO H$C

    A = roughly 20% = 200,000 (ages 76 to 81)

    B = roughly 10% = 100,000 (ages 81 to 86)

    C = roughly 5% = 50,000 (ages 86 to 91)

    D = roughly 1% = 10,000 (ages 91 to 96)

    Add ’em up…

    360,000 survivors expected if NO SIGNIFICANT MORTALITY EVENT IMPACTED THE POPULATION.

    Jerusalem Post says 192,000 alive in Israel alone in 2020.

    Worldwide poulation of Jews residing in Israel? Roughly 30% by ‘Law of Return”, or 42% by “Core / Principal Identity” methods.

    Take the 42%, multiply the actuarial 360,000 = 151,000.

    So… if NO MORTALITY EVENT, expect about 150k Jews alive of ages 76 and over… in Israel.

    Ergo… NO (OUTSIDE NORMAL ACTUARIAL) MORTALITY EVENT took place.

    No Holocaust.

    Frauds, 100%.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  58. I’m inclined to give Jews the benefit of the doubt on the question of the Holocaust. Jews are a very spiritual people, scrupulously honest and uniquely generous. Their moto is “heal the world”. So if they tell us that the Nazis killed 6 million of them, I’m inclined to believe it. I mean, why would they lie about such a thing. And then there’s the huge piles of shoes. How can Holocaust deniers explain the shoes?

  59. Skeptikal says:
    @UncommonGround

    “She was noticeably much younger than 18 when she was born.”

    Do you mean, when she emigrated?
    I have read that some babies were born in concentrations camps.

    • Replies: @a reader
    , @UncommonGround
  60. bjondo says:
    @Robjil

    …only about 1 million halachic Jews, meaning people born of a Jewish mother, perished in the Holocaust.

    Does ‘Jewish mother’ mean pure Khazar lineage?

    5 dancing shlomos

  61. ricpic says:

    Jew Hating — it solves everything.

    Have another great Jew Hating Day, you Unzite dreck.

    • Replies: @Truth3
    , @Anon
  62. Z-man says:

    As the great Douglas Reed said many years ago, the Jews in Europe died in proportion to the rest of the populations of the continent, 450,000-600,000 tops.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  63. Skeptikal says:
    @GeeBee

    Sterbebuecher are not the only written record of events at Auschwitz.

    Numerous logs survive from Auschwitz for both the men’s and women’s camps.

    They are kept in an archive in the Auschwitz Museum or possible in the Polish state archive.

    They are cited repeatedly, in Auschwitz Kalendarium, as sources of detailed information as to what went on in all three Auschwitz camps on a daily basis.

    It should be possible to use those logs to derive a ballpark or even quite good figure as to how many prisoners passed through Auschwitz (from those who got numbers; of course many who arrived at Auschwitz never got numbers–children, the elderly, those incapable of work— but were sent directly to be gassed. Each train that arrived in Auschwitz and the number of prisoners on that train is recorded, and the numbers that they got.

    • Replies: @Anon
  64. Skeptikal says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    It is pointless to try to have a debate or discussion with the “HoloHoaxers” because most of them are quite ignorant of many aspects of the history, and they only speak English. They see things in black and white, so no fruitful discussion of the many interesting and relevant historical details of WW2 within and outside Germany that appear only in foreign languages—German, Polish, Romanian, Greek, etc.—are possible.

    That said, it should be possible to do a systematic search of the names at yad Vashem and establish their death/life status.

    Surely all of the Yad Vashem data are digitalized and available online to researchers.

  65. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Yes she was that was genius level trolling.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  66. Yad Vashem is right when it says “time is running out”. Yes, for the biggest lie in world history.

  67. Truth3 says:
    @ricpic

    Up yours, you Jew Liar.

  68. @Timur The Lame

    I was aware of both trials. I followed then on the news, which reported that the defense had subpoenaed the records. Despite the unbelievably biased reporting, it was evident that the prosecution needed a fix in order to gain conviction, because even they could`n t hide the disaster of Raul Hilbergs cross examination or the evisceration of Rudolf Vrba the man on which the Nuremberg narrative was built.
    I, personally, took a lot of flak from people by defending Zundel. The law used was an obscure `publishing false news`law. I took no position on the veracity of the Holocaust narrative, other than to say that the booklet contained opinions. I was concerned that expressing doubt about something was being criminalized, and didn`t care whether he was right or wrong. Following the government`s logic on Zundel, I could be prosecuted for a letter to the editor doubting the government`s bullshit propaganda on dozens of topics. It appears my concerns were justified.

    You may be interested in this:
    https://www.radicalpress.com/?p=1024

    • Agree: John Wear
  69. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Hey, thanks!

    BtM

  70. @Bardon Kaldian

    A census doesn’t state the cause of the absence of the individuals. Displacement is a thing, war is a thing. Unless there is positive evidence of murder, then the crime can’t be established.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Jews died disproportionately in the war. Of the some 270k in the UK, 160k are in London. Middlemen gravitate to centres of trade. Centres of trade got wiped out accross the continent. And the Germans had work camps that failed when the state failed. And the other nations of Europe weren’t exactly peachy, given the ever present ‘Jewish question’.

    Yes the Jews suffered, as did everyone else. That’s war. Better not start them, and certainly Jewish power had something to do with this war. So, sadly, action-result of action.

  71. @ Skeptical,

    Some years ago one of Canada’s major newspapers, The National Post had a large picture of the maternity ward at Auschwitz showing contented women holding their babies. I didn’t read the article because I was sick of the whole H business having fatigued myself on that topic many years before.

    Still the visual stuck with me in that how stupefied are the goyim when they cannot even pause and ask “Hey, wait a minute, why would a death camp have a maternity ward?”

    Are our friends displaying chutzpah, complacency or hubris? I don’t know but if it was meant to demoralize critical thinking people then I can say it worked on me. Google the appropriate terms if interested. The article may still exist.

    Cheers-

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Curmudgeon
  72. a reader says:
    @Truth3

    By simple logic, roughly under half of World Jew population being in Israel, that means they claim between 300,000 and 400,000 so called ‘survivors’ are walking around, collecting checks.

    You’re absolutely right.

    There were 400,000 Holocaust survivors worldwide according to this 2018 NYT’s article.

  73. Shoah we the money!

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @Wally
  74. a reader says:
    @Skeptikal

    This lady was born in Auschwitz, weighing a single kilo, a few weeks before its liberation.

    • Replies: @UncommonGround
    , @anonymous
  75. Art says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Minus- sorry guys, but censuses of Jews, from Holland, France, ..to Poland and Ukraine (and counting those who escaped to UK, Palestine, Argentina, ….) show that perhaps 4 million or more Jews had perished in the WW2.

    Sorry Bardon – nice try – but no cigar – keep going down. Four milling is an insult – just like six million was. (Gee – six did not work — try four)

    You really do think that we are all stupid – don’t you!

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  76. @Skeptikal

    She was born in the concentration camp where her mother was with two other daughters. That means that she couldn’t be much older than a few years old when the war finished. After the war they emigrated to the US.

    Another story that I read recently was of a Jewish man who also was in a concentration camp. He told how he survived an epidemy. He told that when he recovered and woke up he was in a clinic, but that a large part of the people in the concentration camp had died because of the epidemy. The article about him was written by Christoph Gunkel in Der Spiegel, 29.03.2020.

  77. @John Wear

    ‘Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust center, confirmed in 1986 that more than half of the testimonies of Jewish survivors on file there are unreliable. Krakowski said that many survivors, wanting to be a part of history, may have let their imaginations run away from them. He stated that many of the testimonies on file at Yad Vashem were later proved to be inaccurate when locations and dates could not pass an expert historian’s appraisal. Krakowski commented on the Jewish survivor testimony, “Many were never in the places where they claimed to have witnessed atrocities, while others relied on second-hand information given them by friends or passing strangers.”’

    A long time ago, back when this crap could be discussed rationally, somebody observed that to be an actual ‘Holocaust survivor’ — that is, to be sent to a camp yet come out alive — one disproportionately had to play some pretty dirty tricks. Be a kapo, take food from those smaller and weaker than you, etc. In places like the camps, the virtuous tend to die.

    Conversely, the ruthless, the collaborators, the deceitful — they may live. See Solzhenitsyn on that. See James Clavell’s King Rat.

    I wouldn’t judge. I might very well do the same. But the point is that many of those who did survive probably felt obliged to ‘improve’ their story in one or more respects. The truth may well not be very flattering.

    • Agree: Wielgus, Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @utu
    , @Wielgus
  78. @a reader

    No, this is definitively not the woman that I saw on tv saying that she had been born in a concentration camp during the war, possibly Auschwitz.

    • Replies: @a reader
  79. @Truth3

    ‘… No Holocaust.

    Frauds, 100%.’

    I think what’s going on here is that both you and they are fudging the numbers.

    You’re understating the percentages of each age group that should be alive. For one, more than 20% of those who would be between 76 and 81 would still be alive. 50%?

    So treating all Jews as Holocaust victims we’ve got potentially considerably more than 360,000 ‘survivors’ given no unusual mortality.

    For their part, the Holocaust-worshippers have started counting literally ever Jew who lived in an area somehow subject to Nazi-inspired anti-semitism as a ‘Holocaust survivor.’ For example, the Jews of French North Africa found themselves stripped of their legally privileged position under Vichy. Bingo: they’re ‘Holocaust survivors’ — although in most cases literally nothing happened to them at all.

    Ditto, I suspect for Jews in the Western Soviet Union who got out well ahead of the Germans, Jews in Romania proper who — I believe — were left quite unmolested, and so on. For all I know, Iraqi Jews are counted as ‘Holocaust survivors.’ Hey, there was a Nazi-aligned government in power there for a few weeks…

    Naturally, since these groups really weren’t killed off wholesale, they make up the overwhelming majority of all those ‘Holocaust survivors’ — and it seems perfectly plausible to me that they could add up to 360,000.

    You want to show there was no Holocaust at all. The Holocaust-worshippers want to keep up the supply of ‘survivors’ so as to keep milking the goyim. Neither motive is going to generate reliable figures.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  80. Wally says:
    @anon

    Said:
    “About 1.1 million people, around one million of whom were European Jews, died at the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp between 1940 and 1945.”

    – No they didn’t. There is absolutely no more proof for this 1.1M, than there is for the earlier fake of 4M.
    – The absud ‘gas chambers were scientifically technically impossible.

    For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11143&p=83723&hilit=model+asmarques#p83723

    recommended:
    Auschwitz – Forensically Examined, By Cyrus Cox : https://shop.codoh.com/book/494/508

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/gWD4XpbWMxhH/

  81. Wally says:
    @eah

    “Israel’s Yad Vashem is widely considered to be the authority on “Holocaust” history and remembrance.
    The organization claims to have millions of documents and testimonies proving that 6 million Jews were murdered during World War II.”

    – Yet when you look for such “documents” they do not exist. Just ask and see what they produce. Either Amateur Hour fakes easily debunked, or readily exposed fraudulent English “translations, and of course, creative graphics:
    ex.:caption: “Photo taken from the body of a dead German officer killed in Russia, showing a Nazi firing squad shooting Jews in the back as they sit beside their own mass grave, in Babi Yar, Kiev, 1942.”
    also:Drawn in ‘Auschwitz Jews being marched to gas chambers’, ON A ROOF.

    More on the Yad Vashem “database” scam:

    Yad Vashem “Database” a proven fraud: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9366

  82. Truth3 says:
    @Colin Wright

    You’re an ass.

    The assumed numbers and analysis are skewed TOWARD a so called H$C actually happening, and it STILL does not add up to one.

    Go find true actuarial figures… from the US Government. I used those.

    If you don’t understand math STFU.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Truth3
  83. John Wear says:
    @Colin Wright

    I appreciate your response. Also, some of the alleged Holocaust survivors were never in the camps to begin with. The late Jerome Brentar put his dog in Yad Vashem to prove that no one actually verified the accuracy of the survivor statements.

  84. utu says:
    @Colin Wright

    When Harry Wu came to the US after years in Chinese Gulag he talked about his genuine survivor guilt about what he really had to do in order to survive at expense of other prisoners. I have never sees it in Holocaust survivors; however after WWII former inmates of concentration camps carried a stigma of collaborators who survived at others’ expense so many did not talk about their experience until much much later when the Holocaust project took off and when the survivors learned the official narrative and official tone with which to tell ‘their’ stories. It occurred to me that the silence of the survivors in the first two decades after war was necessary to construct a new narrative of concentration camps and the Holocaust. I am sure one could find some out of print books from 1950s in European languages with stories of the concentration camps which would be out of sync with what is has been produced since 1970s.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  85. @Art

    I never said that misojudaist obsessives were stupid.

    I only say that you are completely bonkers.

    • Replies: @Art
  86. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    In chapter 42, “The Talmudic Vengeance,” Douglas Reed points out that despite 90% of the camp inmates actually being Germans, the camps were transformed into camps for Jews. After going through various accounts of the numbers of Jews, he then says,

    Finally, the New York Times, which may be described as the world’s leading Jewish newspaper (it is Jewish-owned and New York is today primarily a Jewish city) in 1948 published what claimed to be an authoritative statistical article, computing the Jewish population of the world (three years after the war’s end) between 15,700,000 and 18,600,000. If either figure was near truth this meant that the Jewish world- population had remained stationary or increased during the war years

    Soros comes to mind, and the Satanic irony, as Reed demonstrates, is that Jews, if anything, were collaborators with the Nazis in the camps’ administration and enjoyed a privileged status (p. 276). Noting the Jewish media’s transformation of the real victims into Jews, Reed quotes Chesterton’s maxim that, “Journalism is a false picture of the world, thrown upon a lighted screen in a darkened room so that the real world is not seen.”

  87. @ Curmudgeon,

    Yes you are right on the temper of that particular time. But remember that what was interesting about the Zundel trials at the time was is that he was being prosecuted on the issue of freedom of speech not hate this or hate that or being an anti-semite. The law he was convicted on namely s 181, “spreading false news” was put on the books during Canada’s colonial period to curtail people from shouting ” the king is a fink”. Since his conviction that law has been removed.

    That is why Doug Christie was not vilified too much for doing his job as an attorney. Free speech was something that normal people could get behind. But the media at that time got behind the issue so hard that the ignorant jury could not vote their conscience even if they had one.

    In the end the result was tragic. The sole issue of the Holocaust made the judicial system of Canada lay down and spread its legs and allow itself to be defiled so obscenely that I have lost faith in the society that I reside in. All of the stellar jurisprudence since the Magna-Carta is worthless when you hear about official judgements that state “the truth is no defense in this matter ” (fact).

    I have a feeling that maybe a few hundred years from now when benevolent aliens rule the earth Zundel and uncle Adi will be seen in a different light.

    Cheers

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
  88. Art says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I never said that misojudaist obsessives were stupid.

    What is “misojudaist” – (I think maybe I should be honored)?

    What – is “anti-Semetic” not working any more?

  89. @Jay Johnson

    “Shoah me the money!”

    (And a meme is born.)

  90. I don’t think a rational person has much to add, with regard to this text. I’ll just sum up a few thoughts (it goes far beyond Jews):

    * we can’t seriously say how many people unnaturally died during WW2. If one takes only cursory look at figures, one comes to the number that WW2 costed between 70 to 85 million lives. So, it’s plus-minus 15 million. Earlier estimates, as far as I recall, were ca. 58 million.

    So we go anywhere between 60 and 85 million. What can a man do with such a huge standard deviation?

    * even if we discount the Chinese (11 million? 20 million? 50 million, some say?) & concentrate on the West- we are left with big question when it comes to Germans (supposedly superb bookkeepers): even if we take the borders of the 3. Reich in 1939, we don’t know how many Germans (including Austrians etc.) died during WW2. It is somewhere 6.5 million and 9 million. This too is a huge standard deviation.

    * further complication is change of borders in the east. Many people (Poles, Jews, Belarusians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, …) were either not counted or were counted twice, thrice….
    Only a computer program could resolve this, with lower & upper limits (combined with analysis of the documents). Just, we, as Europeans, have more pressing problems…

    * regarding Jews, a few things are, in my opinion, rather obvious:

    a) Hitler wanted to exterminate them because of…we know why. If he could not annihilate them all- the more, the better. Most Slavs were next in line.

    b) how many Jews were, actually, exterminated? I don’t know. I guess that 6 million figure is too high. Perhaps 10-20% less. Some Jewish revisionists think it’s ca. 1.5 to 3 million. I think it’s over 4 million, perhaps 5 million being closer to reality. Still- I don’t know.

    c) there is no doubt that Hitler & his buddies planned to exterminate further 40 to 80 million Western & Eastern Slavs plus Baltic peoples & who knows else more…

    d) out of 3 million Jews in pre-war Poland only a few hundred, maybe 300,000 (or less) remained. The same goes with big Jewish populations in Hungary, Romania, many Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, parts of Russia, …

    They didn’t resurface anywhere. They’re gone. Forever.

    Just check Jewish population in UK, US, Palestine, Argentine, South Africa… in 1948.

    There is no doubt that many Jews use their tragedy during WW2 as an emotional blackmail. Also- they may be irrecoverably wounded. I doubt that establishment of their nation-state of Israel did all the healing. It helped, but the wound remained.

    They think- whichever their paranoid mental styles of yore may have been- they’ll be hunted down like dogs, only if a chance appears. I disagree, but you cannot argue with them. It’s like a gang raped woman- the memory of it, I guess, never goes away.

    • Replies: @Truth3
    , @Wally
    , @Anonymous
  91. Iranian Holocaust Heresy exhibit in reaction to Europe allowing cartoons of Muhammad.

  92. Kati says:

    More survivours then dead victims, this alone makes you suspicious about the numbers, 6 million survivours.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  93. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:

    So, Ron is giving the alt-rightists a break from cheer-leading for social credit to go back to their previous distractions?

  94. anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @a reader

    Who was the father?

  95. Robjil says:
    @Kati

    The 6 mill number has been mentioned over a 100 times since 1823? Why? It is ten times the number 600000. That number is the number of Jews who went to Israel from Egypt in the Torah.

    WWII had to happen for it to look like 6 mill Jews were effected by the war. This is to shoe in the Torah number for the creation of Israel part II. This 6 mill Torah number has been abused the minds and the intellect of billions of people for seventy five years.

    The huddle masses of the world are tired and weary of the big 6 number as the center of the universe. Galileos of the world want the sun back as the center of the universe. Bring down the 6 mill down wall. Enough already.

    http://zionismunveiled.blogspot.com/2009/10/6-million-kabbalistic-number.html

    DECONSTRUCTING SIX MILLION HOLO-MYTHS: EXPLORING THE OCCULT ORIGINS OF

    CRUCIAL HOLOCAUST DOGMA By Dr. Harrell Rhome (excellent read)

    Ben Weintraub’s 1995 book, Holocaust Dogma Of Judaism, fully explores and explains the Kabalistic gematria and occultism involved in the number. 6,000,000 is the number of perfect souls times ten, and ten is number of the Sephiroth, the divine emanations of G_d as seen in the Kabala.

    Thus, it is numerologically predetermined, and through various dark conjuring rites, supernaturally imbued with power. As a result, it can never, ever be changed. This is critical, central to the hex. 6,000,000 is the number. There are never more deaths; there are never less. 6,000,000 is the number. It must be ritually repeated and publicly acknowledged.

    As we already see, 6,000,000 never refers to actual deaths. It is a purely symbolic, esoteric, mystical number, symbolizing the perfect result, a perfect creation, a magical Great Work in progress. Perhaps this is a part of tikkun olam, the Kabalistic-Talmudic “repairing” or “perfecting” of the world, done of course by the self-chosen ones.

    • Thanks: Daniel Rich
  96. This list seems just about as accurate as the Broward County voter roll.

    • Agree: mark tapley
  97. Derer says:

    Simple analysis of Jewish population statistics provided by the Jewish Virtual Library (also referred in the Washington Post, July 2, 2015 issue) disprove the famous estimate of 6 m Jews having perished during the WWII. The World population growth data as opposed to continental data is not contaminated by the net immigration numbers. Showing growth by births less deaths.

    World Jewish population GROWTH is compared to neutral Switzerland for selected periods:
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jewish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Switzerland,,,,,,,,,,,Jewish (adjusted)
    1880,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,7,800 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2,831 787,,,,,,,,,,,,,,7,800 000
    1939,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,16,728 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4,206 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,11,584 000
    Annual compound growth,,,,,,,,,1.3 %,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.67 %,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.67%
    1945,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,11,000 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4,412 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    2018,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,14,606 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,8,542 000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Annual compound growth,,,,,,,,,,0.39 %,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.91%,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Switzerland as most European nations show post-war population growth higher than the pre-war growth. The Jewish population growth for the pre-war period is in conflict with the norm. The 1880 – 1939 period is characterized by the WWI carnage, Nazi antisemitism and much higher birth deaths. Consequently 1.3 % growth is artificially high compared to the Jewish post-war growth of 0.39 % or even to Switzerland of 0.67 % for the same period. The 1939 Jewish population of 16,728 000 is way overestimated by the fake pre-WWII annual growth of 1.3 % in order to show the 6 m drop in 1945. If Switzerland’s more typical pre-war growth of 0.67 % is applied, the Jewish population drop during the WWII is in the neighborhood of 600 000 and not 6 m.

  98. All of the fallen will be voting for Biden by mail this November, multiple times.

  99. Truth3 says:
    @Truth3

    You’re an Ass Squared Colon.

    Calling me a trioll simply proves you have no Truth on your side. Can’t refute with fact (because fact is on my side) and can only obfuscate with words then throw your Colon feces like the monkey you are.

  100. Truth3 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    What an aSS.

    Lies, Lies, and more Lies.

    Sophistry with a Capital S.

  101. Wally says:
    @utu

    – But utu, it is you who believes in he ridiculous ‘Nazi gas chambers’.

    – Please show us the proof for them. Also please tell us how they supposedly worked.

    – You also believe that the ‘Nazis” shot millions upon millions into enormous mass graves, those alleged immense human remains are claimed to exist in known locations, yet they do not exist.

    recommended:
    Simple question: What happened to the people who were sent to the camps?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13204

  102. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Laughable Zionist bar talk, but no proof.

  103. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    One assumes then that there was ever only one “Eric Striker” on the planet

    One assumes there was ever any “Eric Striker” on the planet at all.

    RIP Frau Magda Goebbels

  104. Johan says:

    A growing number of people are becoming aware that the Jew is a fanatic and brutal fantast, and moreover, those having done even more broad research may become aware that he literally runs the Western cultural imagination at large. So we have a new sort of science, debunking all the lies, schemes and fantasies of the Jew.
    I say, these are so numerous that we’d be occupied with them for a century, doing research, publishing about it, and meanwhile they make loads of new ones, meanwhile also we do not arrive at forming our own imaginative and directing vision, but our energy is waisted debunking lies and fantasies. Their lies and fantasies are not so difficult to unmask, they are like children’s lies and fantasies, but they produce their fantasies and lies so easily and richly in great quantities, finding out the truth is like trying to drain the sea.

  105. Sulu says:

    What with the 75th anniversary of V.E. day now past I wonder how many more years must pass before the general public just doesn’t give a damn about the so called holocaust? When that day comes I suppose the Jews will just invent a new swindle.

    Sulu

  106. @Derer

    The 1880 – 1939 period is characterized by the WWI carnage, Nazi antisemitism and much higher birth deaths.

    Useful comparison, but “Nazi antisemitism” as a cause for Jewish deaths 1880 – 1939 (if that’s what you intended to say), is not borne out by facts:

    — I’m not aware that Jews were the target of “Nazis” in World War I, nor of any western party to the war. Jews in Romania, Poland, Lithuania and Russia were targeted, and tens of thousands were assisted by US-based Jewish organization to flee to Germany for safety, but they were not victimized by “Nazis” in Germany.
    In the inter-war period, the Weimar years, Jews in Germany did become targets of mob violence due to their prosperity in the midst of widespread suffering among Germans, and also due to Communist-inspired conflicts. That is, violence against Jews was bottom-up, not top-down.

    — In FDR and the Jews, Breitman and Lichtman state that “upon aggregating power [by early-summer 1933], Nazis quelled physical violence against the Jews. . . . Not until November, 1938 was the first Jewish person sent to a concentration camp.” By stabilizing the economy, increasing employment and conveying a sense of cultural cohesion and hope, NSDAP imposed order on German society which calmed the mob violence that had earlier threatened Jews in Germany.

    — Moreover, once Hitler achieved the chancellorship, he no longer relied on Jew-baiting to activate crowds: Germany and NSDAP had bigger fish to fry — infrastructure to rebuild, factories to open, an Olympic to organize, citizens to re-invigorate, an economy to rebuild, all against the backdrop and very real handicap/threat of the Jewish economic war against Germany. Jewish holocausters call this interim period of relative quiet the “cold pogrom” along the “crooked road to Auschwitz.”

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  107. Alden says:
    @Anon

    Jews either joined the safe coast guard, aka The Jewish Navy or spent the war in offices and supply. Supply was especially prized because they could steal armaments for the Zionist cause in Palestine,

    • Replies: @Truth3
  108. jasmin says:

    Always amazed me how the Jews claim six million died but every Jew you meet claims he or she is a

    Holocaust survivor. This is the biggest hoax in history.

  109. Iva says:
    @GeeBee

    It wasn’t UK Inteligence who broke the ENIGMA code. They were Polish. British “stole “ it from Poles. I read also about numbers of deaths in German concentreation camps, and it was less 300K.
    Holocaust Industry needs more deths so some of victims who died of old age “died” 3 times to make the numbers that shock the world.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  110. @SolontoCroesus

    I think his point (and it’s a good one), is that a Jewish population growth rate during a period of great chaos that is twice the rate of a neutral country sheltered from that chaos is simply not believable.

    An additional point: Jewish population statistics during the interwar and postwar periods depend on Soviet numbers, which have to be viewed with great skepticism.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  111. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @Skeptikal

    of course many who arrived at Auschwitz never got numbers–children, the elderly, those incapable of work— but were sent directly to be gassed.

    Not only do you not have proof of that, you do not have proof that anyone was gassed at Auschwitz. Beyond merely asserted mythology from those who stand to benefit and cajoled narratives under duress, that is. None of which is proof.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  112. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @ricpic

    Jew Hating — it solves everything.

    Have another great Jew Hating Day, you Unzite dreck.

    That’s quite the emotional response in defense of a group of people whose entire identity and religion as Jews is built around hatred and domination of non-Jews. As is explained throughout their books.

    Dreck rolls over and dies in the face of such a threat, or tries to serve it for 30 pieces of silver and the vain hope of being spared and included in the predicted winners circle. Hope that would not exist if such traitors knew the first thing about the true beliefs of those who they try to cozy up with.

    If Jews would abandon their religion of hate, this would all go away. They will not, and urinal scum like you sees fit to complain about the natural response. That’s not surprising at all. In fact, its quite Jewish.

  113. @Curmudgeon

    And right now, in New York of all places (oy vey!!), the Corona corpses are piling up in refrigerated trucks parked in non-billionaire neighborhoods. Seems the local crematory facilities in the city and for many miles around cannot accommodate the — how many, 12,000? 14,000? — poor souls who succumbed to the Coronapocalypse. If only the Third Reich’s oven technology had not been lost after the war, then the NYC morticians would be able to dispatch tens of thousands of cadavers per day.

    • LOL: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  114. JLK says:

    Difficult to fact check that because many surnames (i.e Schwartz) were common.

  115. @Beefcake the Mighty

    You clarified Derer’s point nicely, thank you, and Agree, it is an important and good one.

    I was just taking advantage of the opportunity to make a different point: that Nazis did not kill Jews during WWI and actually “quelled violence” against Jews once NSDAP came to power post-Weimar.

    re: Iva @ 113: At least two Jewish persons-of-influence, Rachel Levine Medical Director in Pennsylvania, and S Schwarts of US Dept of Vital Statistics, are making the rules requiring that most deaths be “assumed” to be of Coronavirus.

    in other words, they’re inflating the numbers.

    Why?

    Unfortunately

  116. @Timur The Lame

    It occurs to me that things could have changed at Auschwicz so the picture of mothers and babies might have been taken early and extermination introduced later. Possible?

    • Replies: @gregor
  117. @Curmudgeon

    Although largely true, this is not quite accurate. The real story is actually more damning, because it contains an admission against interest.

    The prosecution called Dr Charles Beiderman, head of the Red Cross International Tracing Service, because they knew that if they didn’t, Christie would. And Beiderman agreed with the information in the Did 6 Million Really Die pamphlet Zundel had printed and distributed.

    Barbara Kulazska, one of Zundel’s lawyers, wrote a book summarizing the evidence in the case. You can read a summary of Beiderman’s testimony below.

    http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/10biedermann.html

    • Thanks: Curmudgeon
  118. Druid says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Franny the Tubwoman is so happy wityout post!

  119. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    In Maus Art Spiegelman has problems with his father Vladek’s obsessive miserliness and suspects the camps might have made him that way. It is possible his unattractive traits helped him survive. Vladek also does not believe in disinterested help – he takes it for granted that Poles who shelter them from the Nazis will only do so in return for money or some other kind of recompense. In a way, he was seeing himself in others.
    At the end of the war the Soviets tended to be suspicious of Red Army POWs and civilian workers from the USSR in Germany who had survived, especially if they were obviously in good health. What had they done for the Germans to ensure that they were in liveable conditions? And this was ones who had not openly gone over to Vlasov and suchlike or joined pro-German armed Osttruppen. Often their next stop was the Gulag.
    Elsewhere on this website someone sneered at a photo of a man in a concentration camp uniform, described as a Jew who had just been liberated. He had a slight paunch and looked like he had had some nourishment. The Unz commentator thought the Nazis must have been nice to the Jews if he looked like that. It is however possible he had not been a prisoner long enough to lose a lot of weight, or had been a Kapo or had had other privileges. The central point you make is correct – the concentration camps were bad places and devils might make it to the end but saints probably wouldn’t.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  120. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    See comment 88 above quoting from chapter 42, “The Talmudic Vengeance,” in Douglas Reed’s Controversy of Zion, which is available free on the Internet.

    Based on figures published in 1948 by the New York Times, there were about as many or more Jews alive after the war as before.

    The type of thing that never goes away, as you’ll see, is humankind’s memory of being gang raped by Jewish lies and the Bolshevist responsibility for the real holocaust in Russia, as well as acts of war against the United States with the attacks on the USS Liberty and on 9-11, to name just a few.

    It must be difficult living this Holocaust lie as you do and claiming those you persecute with your lies are persecuting you. Get a real life; you might enjoy it.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  121. @Robjil

    80 percent of the 6 million were not Jews

    Going by your own source, the rabbi does not argue the number of people killed but, to put it uncharitably, the number of people killed who count (as Jews).

    • Replies: @Robjil
  122. SHHHHH !!! You’re ruining their Narrative ! The number 6 million is very important to them, and you’re not helping at all.

    What good is the truth if it’s anti-semitic ?

  123. Robjil says:
    @Fluesterwitz

    Yes, Jewish sources always have to say the 6 mill number. “It is the thing that glues this thing together” As noted Zionist coup meister of Kiev, Ms. Vicky Nuland said during her planning for that coup.

    The 6 mill number is ten times the number of Jews that first went to Israel from Egypt. Israel had to come into being. A number ten times the first number to make Israel in the Torah, 600000, would scare anyone who dares to confront Jews from taking over Palestine. It is still working seventy five years later. One goes to jail or is job less if one dares to question the 6 mill number.

    It is the new Overlord of our planet. The sun is not center of our Zion universe. The 6 mill number has replaced the sun in the past seventy five years. Galileos of our time are trying to bring back Athenian debate to our Zion Jerusalem revelation tyranny. The big 6 is the tool of our Overlords to rule us without pity. Bring down the 6 mill wall. Let the sun shine again on this poor planet.

    It is a ritual number. We have been living in Jewish Zion fantasy times for the past 100 or so years since 12. 23.1913.

    https://archive.org/details/SixMillionJews19151938

    This video examines ten newspaper articles from the years 1915 through 1938, from publications such as the New York Times. These articles document how the phrase “six million Jews” was used long before World War 2, and even before Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany

    Operation Overlord, was D day. 666 day, 6th hour, 6th day and 6th month. Who were the Overlords? Why 6s? Was it to “magically” introduce the 6 mill game that will rule Europe after the war? Last June 6th, Youtube made a big cut of any videos who touched the Zion third rail.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/overlord_d_day_paris_01.shtml

    In the early hours of 6 June 1944, two American and one British airborne division began landing in Normandy and, in spite of their scattered drops, managed to achieve their critical objectives.
    Meanwhile, the beach assault troops, packed into their landing craft and supported by a huge number and variety of naval vessels and aircraft, approached the Normandy coast.

    • Replies: @Wally
  124. gregor says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    But this is supposed to be the “best documented” mass killing in human history. Having to constantly explain away information and retreat to arguing “well, maybe it’s still possible if…” is the sign of a narrative that’s on the defensive intellectually (if not politically).

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  125. @Just another serf

    And such shoes. Manolo Blahniks!!!

  126. Truth3 says:
    @Alden

    Logistics & Supply officers and non-coms (think Crap Game in Kelly’s Heroes) were Jew posts just like Staff & Propaganda & Analysis Intelligence positions.

    Theft of Dead Officer’s Whiskey rations was the least of their crimes.

  127. @Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jewish_population_comparisons
    ……………..

    In 1939, the core Jewish population reached its historical peak of 17 million (0.8% of the global population). Because of the Holocaust, the number was reduced to 11 million in 1945.[6] The population grew again to around 13 million by the 1970s, but has since recorded near-zero growth until around 2005 due to low fertility rates and to assimilation.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world
    …………

    1939 16,728,000

    1945 11,000,000

    1948 11,500,000

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/
    ………………

    In 1939, there were 16.6 million Jews worldwide, and a majority of them – 9.5 million, or 57% – lived in Europe, according to DellaPergola’s estimates. By the end of World War II, in 1945, the Jewish population of Europe had shrunk to 3.8 million, or 35% of the world’s 11 million Jews.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Robjil
    , @Derer
  128. anarchyst says:

    Incarcerating 80-year-old grandmothers for “improper thoughts” is PROOF that the holohoax (oops, I mean “holocaust™”) is a fraud of massive proportion, truly the “hoax of the twentieth (and twenty-first) centuries”.

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @schnellandine
  129. Wally says:
    @Robjil

    Let’s not forget the fact that Jews have been lying about ‘6M dead Jews’ since at least 1823.

    scroll down

    6 MILLION?

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @KA
  130. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Pure Zionist desperation.

    – You have no proof they were murdered.

    – And you cannot show us the alleged human remains of millions upon millions that are claimed to exist in known locations, but in fact do not.

    Your tired ‘missing’ ‘6M Jews’ canard has been repeatedly demolished
    see here and note the many other references cted:
    Issues with post-WWII Jewish census figures: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12735
    and:
    Simple question: What happened to the people who were sent to the camps?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13204

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  131. Lurker says:
    @Iva

    It wasn’t UK Inteligence who broke the ENIGMA code. They were Polish. British “stole “ it from Poles

    Even including irony quotes, in what sense was it ‘stolen’ by the British?

  132. @Wally

    Are you aware of the level of idiocy you’re spreading?

    I’ve read the texts on links you provided- they’re pure bullshit. They don’t address issue of world Jewish population; they misinterpret numbers in Soviet union due to the change of borders; they don’t account for the loss of Jewish population in pre-war Poland; they… are pure and simple: essential excrement for the braindead.

    There is no more to add than:

    • Replies: @Wally
  133. @gregor

    Where do you get “best documented” from? It seems that Hitler never put anything, or got his secretaries to put anything on paper, not that anyone has found anyway.

    • Replies: @gregor
  134. @Timur The Lame

    Not just a maternity ward. What kind of “death camp” has an Olympic swimming pool and a brothel for its prisoners?

  135. Robjil says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Whatever happened, it was wanted to look like it happened.

    Central and Eastern Europe was a mess in WWII. Millions of people of all nationalities were homeless and fleeing different regions.

    There are many Jewish Zion mystical fantasies for the 6 number twisted in many different ways for the return of Jews to go to Israel again. This one below is about a missing letter in the Torah that represents 6.

    http://zionismunveiled.blogspot.com/2009/10/6-million-kabbalistic-number.html

    Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ‘6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less. See Ben Weintraub: “The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism”, Cosmo Publishing, Washington 1995, page 3. The missing 6 million must be so before the Jews can return to the Promised Land. Jahweh sees this as a cleaning of the souls of the sinful people. The Jews must, on the return to the Promised Land, be clean — the cleaning shall be done in burning stokes. –A Correspondent

    The huddled masses of the world are yearning be free of this Zion Jerusalem Revelation number of 6 mill. We are all yearning for Athenian debates again on our planet. Bring down the 6 mill wall. Free humanity.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  136. gregor says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    According to Deborah Lipstadt in her TED talk, the Holocaust “has the dubious distinction of being the best documented genocide in the world.” I mean, haven’t you seen Schindler’s List?

  137. @Robjil

    ‘The huddled masses of the world are yearning be free of this Zion Jerusalem Revelation number of 6 mill. We are all yearning for Athenian debates again on our planet. Bring down the 6 mill wall. Free humanity.’

    As far as I’m concerned, the Jews can have their six million. The Armenians can have their million-plus, and the Germans can have their six million. The Russians, the Poles, the Chinese, even the frigging Iranians: they can all have their millions and tens of millions. As a rule, they all really did die.

    It’s what the Jews like to do with their loss that irritates me. Armenians aren’t out there hacking a ‘New Armenia’ out of the flesh of some entirely innocent group that had nothing to do with their loss — nor are they subverting my country to bring it about. Ditto for everyone else.

    • Agree: bing0
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @L.K
  138. @refl

    When you first understand, how much the narrative of the Great Era of Western Democracy is nothing but a huge lie, that is an earthshattering turning point for any well meaning, openminded liberal that I once was – and still am at heart, because I simply do not see a viable alternative.

    Count me in as well. The only thing that [kinda] fits me today is my claim to be a ‘humanist,’ because I do care about people [in general], all the other labels have run off of my back like water off a duck.

  139. Robjil says:
    @Colin Wright

    Every culture can have a number. The problem is what one does with the number.

    The 6 mill has been abused to silence any criticism of any Jewish/Zion behavior for the past seventy years.

    The numbers for other peoples does not give them any cover to do bad things without criticism.

    The 6 mill is like a new Sun. It shines on all of us. We bow down to it in daily life for the past seventy five years. Any criticism of it lands one in jail or job less or in the media as ” a big 6″ denial. Oh, how “evil”.

    • Agree: bing0
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  140. @anarchyst

    Incarcerating 80-year-old grandmothers for “improper thoughts” is PROOF

    I agree with that—not in spirit, but literally. Every attempt to thwart examination of the Jew’s Jewel lifts the veil, and their assertions must now be considered deceased with prejudice. Seriously. Every honest man must now disregard all they say on the subject. They are disqualified by all standards of meritorious investigation and discourse. You encourage the outlawing of debate? The proposition is thus canceled.

    Has there ever been a sentient people more overflowing with such self-deceit-originated dung? To hell, every participant. They’ve infected the daily US media with the same arrogant blindness. But they know at depth, and that’s the unforgivable part. They must be removed. Let them go to Zion and stay until death.

    Yet on this also Hitler was right:

    [MORE]

    When the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the new national consciousness of the Jews will be satisfied by the establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine, the Jews thereby adopt another means to dupe the simple-minded Gentile. They have not the slightest intention of building up a Jewish State in Palestine so as to live in it. What they really are aiming at is to establish a central organization for their international swindling and cheating. As a sovereign State, this cannot be controlled by any of the other States. Therefore it can serve as a refuge for swindlers who have been found out and at the same time a high-school for the training of other swindlers.

    As a sign of their growing presumption and sense of security, a certain section of them openly and impudently proclaim their Jewish nationality while another section hypocritically pretend that they are German, French or English as the case may be.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  141. Wally says:
    @Jay Johnson

    Do ya one better:

    There’s no business like Shoah business.”

    There are over 100 “Holocaust” related “museums” in the US alone, all receive US taxpayer funding for an overwhelmingly highly paid Jew staff.

    Facts about one of them, the so called ‘US ‘Holocaust’ Memorial Museum:
    Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, with most of the remaining money going to Jews & Zionist organizations: $151,826,695.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS-Form-990-FY16.pdf

    US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget: 56,999,500.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-fy17-pres-budget-request.pdf

  142. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    – That’s what you childishly & desparately say, but cannot demonstrate. As I have proven.
    And of course you then dodged these challenges:

    – You have no proof they were murdered.

    – And you cannot show us the alleged human remains of millions upon millions that are claimed to exist in known locations, but in fact do not.

    More on the demolish & irrational Zionist Bardon Kaldian:
    https://www.unz.com/?s=Bardon+Kaldian&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

    That was easy.

  143. @Buck Ransom

    If only the Third Reich’s oven technology had not been lost after the war, then the NYC morticians would be able to dispatch tens of thousands of cadavers per day.

    Nice one. Deserves more than a simple LOL.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  144. KA says:
    @Wally

    Let’s not focus on the lies. Have they ever told any truth where truth mattered ? Have they ever been able not to conflate their hatred of the Arab or traditional Christian with international laws ,decorum ,or accepted normative behaviors? The very hatred inside them make them come to the intellectual and emotional conclusion that Jewish actions are legal and inspirational . The emotions become law . Jewish OpEd writers don’t hide either the hatred or the support for the illegal Israeli behaviors .

    They seek punishment of Mr Flynn but they try the most gray obscure and questionable arguments while they entirely forget the collusion with Russia that is strictly forbidden by the constitution and by law.

  145. @Robjil

    ‘The 6 mill is like a new Sun. It shines on all of us. We bow down to it in daily life for the past seventy five years. Any criticism of it lands one in jail or job less or in the media as ” a big 6″ denial. Oh, how “evil”.’

    Indeed. The notion that you could get imprisoned for disputing the claim that the Japanese did away with ten million or so Chinese, or that the invading Russians did away with two million or so Germans is literally absurd.

    You might very well get outraged and argue. But that your interlocutor should be punished, well…

    • Agree: Robjil
  146. @Daniel Rich

    UR commenter Carolyn Yeager did what she could on her website to connect NYC brass with the universally acknowledged experts in the body disposal line. Don’t know how it worked out:

    NYC has trouble burying 100 bodies per day; compare to 6000 for Auschwitz!

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  147. @schnellandine

    Is that quote about a Jewish state in Palestinefrom Hitler? If so, where do I find it?

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  148. @Wizard of Oz

    Appears to be from Mein Kampf.
    I had the quote saved as a screencap only, so searched on “organization for their international swindling” to get a copypasta.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  149. @schnellandine

    I Googled for “what did Hitler say about a Jewish state in Palestine” – a good choice: try it. It seems to be closest to a passage from a site called with what I was going to call extraordinary chutzpah “yadvashem.org” but seems to be genuine. So, thanks for putting me on to what I take to be a reliable translation of Hitler’s own words. It does not, incidentally, give comfort to Holocaust deniers since it shows how much Hitler loathed the Jews.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  150. @schnellandine

    Thanks for the link. Appreciated.

  151. Wielgus says:
    @utu

    There is a somewhat similar phenomenon, which is that homosexuals did not start to write about their experiences under the Third Reich, including in concentration camps, until the 1970s. The reason is that homosexuality had only recently been decriminalised. The Third Reich used Paragraph 175, which had been established in 1871, although the Third Reich broadened its scope, and the paragraph was not fully abolished until 1994, it was however significantly revised in 1969 in West Germany. East Germany abolished 175 but created a substitute law although this was altered significantly in 1968. Homosexuals did not talk or write about their experiences for several decades because it might open them up to further prosecution. Only when this possibility receded did memoirs start to appear.

    • Replies: @Wally
  152. Have a look at the frequently asked questions section of the name database. Yad Vashem is quite open about the imperfections of a list based on imperfect sources and has online mechanisms for alerting them to entries on people that have in fact survived and to multiple records for one person that haven’t yet been recognized. What they do in case of doublettes is keep all the records (because each may provide some additional information on the person and their fate) but merge them into a single name entry for counting.

    You imply they are overcounting on purpose. So maybe they are biased, but so are “researchers” with an axe to grind who (they tell us) tried 15 random survivor names and found 5 faulty entries plus doublettes. So how do I know they didn’t try many more?

    Not long ago, I tried to find distant (eastern European Jewish) family members there whose fate is unknown to us, starting from the place of birth because the names are relatively common ones . I found none of them in the Yad vashem name database.

  153. Wally says:
    @Wielgus

    – The fake & discredited “holocaust” narrative incorporates a secondary lie that falsely claims that multitudes of homosexuals were murdered by the Germans. Another case of vote buying by Zionists. There is absolutely no proof for the claim.

    – So now if you oppose special, preferential treatment for gays you are ‘a Nazi’. See how that works?

    The fact is that German National Socialist policies and actions towards homosexuals were no different than other governments at the time, and in many cases less severe. There is absolutely no proof that they executed homosexuals just for being homosexuals, none.

    – The fake “holocaust”, the all purpose multi-tool for destroying the west.

    recommended:
    The Myth of a Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals, by Jack Wikoff: http://www.cwporter.com/homo.htm
    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894
    Homosexuals – Yad Vashem …: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  154. @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t think it’s a revelation that he loathed Jews—more accurately, loathed the profound destruction which Jew networks wrought. He was obviously correct. They’re geniuses in organizing onslaught to dwarf history’s most revered militaries, and have run a number on the world. But I don’t think they’ll like what remains after their apparently autonomic killing of society.

    I like some Jews. Wouldn’t want them killed. I do, however, support the forced prevention of them organizing and ruling destructive networks. They’ve taken my country to its knees, so I can’t view Hitler, as I did most of my life, from a superior false front. He saw and sounded the alarm. I and my countrymen saw and welcomed. Why? Holosmoke.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  155. anudda says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    i think he’s talking about American GI’s

    since International Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933, how many jews in the U.S. volunteered for war and how many stepped back and let the dumb Yanks and Brits fight their battle for them?

    we know that in the U.S. today jews only serve in the military at about 1/6th the rate that the average American does so they dont appear to be particularly patriotic

    • Replies: @Dube
  156. @Anon

    About as many Jewish GIs that have died in the War on Terror that Jews started by planning and implementing 9/11.

  157. Wally says:
    @UncommonGround

    – See both Jew and Gentile children, see actual Hanukah ceremonies in the “death camps” here:

    ‘What happened to children in the German concentration camps’:



    Healthy Jew children at Auschwitz ‘liberation‘:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J2jpuEZojE0/VONvKRjmXCI/AAAAAAAABX8/-GG_ralfWJA/s1600/Auschwitz.jpg

  158. Wally says:
    @UncommonGround

    Conerning Zionis propaganda aboiut “extermmination / death camp” Auschwitz:

    – An “extermination camp” where thousands of Jews chose to stay behind when the Germans left.
    – An “extermination camp” where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.
    – An “extermination camp” where 1,500,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.
    – An “extermination camp” where many Jews gave birth.
    – An “extermination camp” where the absurdly alleged homicidal ‘gas chambers’ could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically impossible.
    – An “extermination camp” where fake ‘gas chambers’ were “reconstructed” AFTER THE WAR.
    – An “extermination camp” where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.
    – An “extermination camp” where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    – An “extermination camp” where there are countless Jew “survivors”, yet the fake narrative says ‘the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on.’
    -An “extermination camp” where so called “survivors” say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

  159. Castellio says:
    @Emslander

    We can hope. Clarity would help all.

  160. Dube says:
    @anudda

    i think he’s talking about American GI’s

    The designation GI arose from the military supply term “general issue,” and became applied to the ordinary soldier who received equipment of general issue. It is an American designation, a reference to “our boys” in uniform. As ordinary soldiers they would be noncommissioned.

    If one speaks of “Jewish GI’s,” the accurate reference is to some of our American boys in uniform who happen to be Jewish.

  161. Wally says:
    @alan kerns

    Speaking of dishonest information that mandates belief in the fantasy that “The Nazis Were Trying to Take Over The World”, see who had already taken over the world.

    French Empire
    British Empire
    US Empire
    Soviet Empire
    Japanese Empire
    Dutch Empire
    Belgian Empire
    Germany

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=2598&mode=view

  162. Wielgus says:
    @Wally

    Wally, Wally. So the Nazis were nothing but nice to homosexuals? Even though homosexuality was the primary pretext for going after Ernst Röhm, a man who at one time might have been counted as one of Hitler’s personal friends? Especially after homosexuality was decriminalised, survivors of imprisonment mention all sorts of practices, like an Austrian homosexual arriving at a camp and being viciously kicked in the groin by a guard, who remarked, “That is your entrance fee, you filthy Viennese swine.” (Probably a German guard) Or another man whose alimentary canal never worked properly again after he was object-raped with an iron bar in a concentration camp. But of course all these people must be lying,

    • Replies: @Nuncle
    , @Erzberger
    , @Wally
  163. @Just another serf

    Go visit codoh.com. They have very good documentary proofs and open research. Herewith the shoes-thing:
    There would also have been piles of socks, shirts, pants, dresses, wigs (7 tons!) and underwear. Why? Auschwitz was a military installation. The first thing that happens to you when you walk into the army is to get stripped naked for a thorough medical exam. Then, after your injections and chipping (and maybe a dusting with flea powder or Zyklon B), you go get a uniform and a haircut. Your own clothes you are as unlikely to see again as long hair. It is to prevent the spread of fleas and meningitis and legionnaire’s and suchlike pestilences that grow where people gather in sweaty masses. Most of the deaths in the camps were from typhoid, carried by fleas, brought in by already-infected “surrenderers”.
    There is nothing sinister about piles of shoes and wigs. As a matter of fact, it is basic proof that a holocaust never happened, why would the army keep personal belongings of people they do not expect to discharge, hopefully soon?
    Just remember, according to the geniusses at Nuremberg, the Nazis extracted 17 tons of gold from the teeth of dead Jews. “Seventeen tons. sir? Are you sure?” …”Well, you know, German technology, nothing surprises me when it icomes to German technology…” Actual ‘evidence’ at Nuremberg!

    • Replies: @Erzberger
  164. @Emslander

    You’re good! I like the way you phrase your two scenarios: 1) The Germans gathered for the purpose of killing Jews, or 2) The Jews carried the brunt of violence during WW2. Do you get paid for this? I also want a job like yours.
    Lets try: 1) The Zionists of the world were already genociding all non-zionists in Russia and surrounds, by the tens of millions. Zionist banksters were corrupting every government on earth, and then Hitler chose the socialist option of running an economy without the banksters, Honest Money. This angered The Investor, so, 2) Zion called upon International (communist) Jewry to declare war upon Germany, with the express intent to “…wipe the memory of national socialism from human memory…”
    Their first succes was in getting Hitler to ship them en masse to the safety of work camps and ghettos under Jewish burgomasters, while the white people of Europe got bombed, burned, starved and tuberculosed to death in their millions.
    Now go back to your cubicle at The Times and write about society dinners, you lost nothing here.
    P.S. Maybe you are just young and innocent and gullible, in which case I welcome you to one of the best forums for free-thinking available on the ‘Net, all hail Ron Unz!
    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/12-paranoid-goy/257-heilhitler

    • Agree: Robjil
  165. Robjil says:

    It is odd that the phrase ” Know who rules you, by who you can not criticize” is a catch all for big 6 denial.

    Why? People think Voltaire said it. Well, lo and behold a mouse trap is there for MSM big 6 mouse catchers. A big 6 “denier” said it. Thus, one is a big 6 denier if one says this phrase, the worst sin of all in our Zion Universe. The big 6 shines in the sky as the center of universe and not the sun. The big 6 denier and “White” Nationalist who created this phrase was Kevin Alfred Strom.

    John Cusack was recently caught with the Big 6 mouse catcher phrase. He humbled himself to the our big 6 rulers and crawled back to bow to the big 6 sun.

    https://apnews.com/ce43e5d205e34c0fa86809ad26992565

    Yet the phrase fits the shoe.

    Our “free” press MSM does not say what Voltaire really said about Jewish culture. It would be “anti-S.” to say do so.

    Here are some real Voltaire quotes about Jewish culture. We are living with this in our times now.

    https://exposeintelligence.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-great-voltaire-on-jews.html

    “You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny.[2] —Voltaire, From a letter to a Jew who had written to him, complaining of his antisemitism in L’Essai sur le Moeurs

    “I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These marranos go wherever there is money to be made… But whether these circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the earth.” —Voltaire, Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December 15, 1773. Correspondance. 86:166

    “[The Jewish nation] dares spread an irreconcilable hatred against all nations; it revolts against all its masters. Always superstitious, always avid of the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous, crawling in misfortune, and insolent in prosperity. Here are what were the Jews in the eyes of the Greeks and the Romans who could read their books. —Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 1, page 186

    “… [Jews] are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.[2] —Voltaire, Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron (1771)

  166. @Derer

    Indeed, looking at

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world

    the growth rate between 1880 and 1914 was a staggering 1.6%, which makes no sense. (Doubtless a fabrication to facilitate Zionist political aims at the time.) If we apply the claimed growth rate between 1914 and 1939 of 0.85% (still high but not unreasonable) to the 7.8M baseline, we get a 1939 world population of 12.9M, so a death toll after the war of around 2M. This would be consistent with known German documentation (re. Auschwitz, EG shootings, the AR camps, and the German camps), and does not require belief in anything like a top-secret extermination plan. Basically, the answer to the (weak) question “where did they go” is, “they were never there in the first place”.

  167. Wielgus says:
    @schnellandine

    The Nazis’ hostility to Jews was considerably more total than that, and one (Himmler?) reputedly complained about Germans who were in the abstract up for the idea that Jews were all swine but who individually knew this or that Jew who was a good chap.

  168. Robjil says:
    @Wielgus

    We are living in strange times. Whatever happened in WWII, is in the past. The Big 6 is being used as a weapon to protect Top Jews/Zionist from criticism. Ironically, Strom’s quote about one can’t criticize rulers is true. He did not say who are the rulers. Yet, it is anti-S to say this quote.

    Voltaire really did see Jewish culture for what is it. We are seeing in real time how it acts with Top Jews at the Top of our nations in the west.

    Here is another quote from Voltaire. Our “free” Zion press greatly fears what Voltaire really said about Jewish culture. This how Jewish culture as a nation acts in Israel. What Voltaire says is also valid for the Morganthau Plan, Theodore Kaufman’s book – Germany must perish, and the PNAC planners. The same stuff, the total lack of respect or lack of empathy for non-Jews. We are seeing all this in real time on a global scale with the Seven Nations to Destroy and with F–k the EU Vicky and her pals at PNAC.

    https://exposeintelligence.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-great-voltaire-on-jews.html

    “If these Ismaélites (Arabs) resembled to the Jews by the enthusiasm and the thirst for plundering, they were prodigiously higher by courage, by the nobility of soul, by the magnanimity: their history, or true or fabulous, before Mahomet, is filled of examples of friendship, such as Greece invented some in the fables of Pilade and Oreste, of Thésée and Pirithous. The history of Barmécides is only one continuation of amazing generosities which raise the heart. These features characterize a nation. We do not see on the contrary, in all annals of the Hebrew people, no generous action. They do not know nor hospitality, nor liberality, nor leniency. Their sovereign happiness is to exert wear with the foreigners; and this spirit of wear, principle of any cowardice, is so natural in their hearts, that it is the continual object of the figures that they employ in the species of eloquence which is proper for them. Their glory is to put at fire and blood the small villages they can seize. They cut the throat of the old men and the children; they hold only the girls nubiles; they assassinate their Masters when they are slaves; they can never forgive when they are victorious: they are enemy of the human mankind. No courtesy, no science, no art improved in any time, in this atrocious nation. —Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 2, page 83

  169. @Wielgus

    In such situations both parties, seemingly in opposition, are correct. I’m no longer drawn into the usual conclusion that my bitter opposition to one thing makes a saint of its enemy. That lunacy baffled my youth, and blinds most of America today.

    Many lies have taken root regarding Germans and Hitler. Doesn’t excuse the rot. However, to the cliché that American participation in WWII is proved correct by the ‘alternative’ (false dichotomy) that “We’d all be speaking German now”, I say don’t make me weep for what might have been.

    From a crazy gal who might have been my neighbor, things worked out:

    Wir wandern bloss und nackt in die unendlichkeit
    Wir schweben auf dem pfade in die ewigkeit
    Wir glauben was wir wissen und wir fuerchten uns
    Wohl weil wir sterben muessen dad beaengstigt uns
    Wir sind die lebenden
    Nach leben strebenden

    https://hooktube.com/watch?v=w_sku22QWeE

  170. Nuncle says:
    @Wielgus

    Hitler always knew that Roehm was homosexual – it was an open secret even in the ’20s – and this was not the cause of his fate. We don’t in fact know what was. It seems that some kind of anti-Hitler plot supported by a foreign government (probably Britain) was in the works and that Roehm was implicated in that.

    By the way, all instances of abuse in German camps are purely anecdotal. No attempt has ever been made to substantiate any of them; the rule in such matters is ‘if someone says something bad about the Nazis, it’s self-evidently true and requires no investigation or corroboration.’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  171. Nuncle says:

    Quite by chance, I have come across two examples of Holocaust victims who were no such thing. One is the case of an apparently half-Jewish German soldier. He died fighting for Germany on the eastern front, but is listed as a Holocaust death in the archive that I consulted when I was looking into the matter some five or six years ago. The other is a woman who, after the war, migrated to Australia and worked as a nurse in Brisbane. Her name is so distinctive that I think she has to be the woman with the name listed as having died during the Holocaust in the Holocaust archives.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  172. Nuncle says:

    Eric, Bernie Sanders once told the press that all his relatives on his father’s side of the family had died during the Holocaust. In fact, there are no records of what happened to them at all. It’s all supposition. I also came across a report stating that one of them died at a ripe old age in Canada.

  173. L.K says:
    @Colin Wright

    As far as I’m concerned, the Jews can have their six million.

    Nice way of saying you don’t care about the factual truth, which you don’t.

    Those of us who have dealt with you before, particularly in regards to your holocaust Religion fanaticism, already know that.

  174. Wielgus says:
    @Nuncle

    I seem to recall numerous guards and Kapos being tried and convicted for various murders and abuses. Some, put on trial postwar in countries like Poland, were even executed.
    If you say these things are “purely anecdotal”, it would seem to me that so is the Gulag. Whether you are skeptical of the one and give full credit to the other may just be a matter of political ideology.

    • Replies: @Nuncle
  175. Erzberger says:
    @Wielgus

    I honestly don’t know what your point is – “probably a German guard”. In Buchenwald: Probably yes. Could have been Viennese too. Was Hitler Austrian or German?

    But have you been living under a rock or sth? Have you not heard of gays being attacked and practically crucified outside of camps or prisons, Nazi or otherwise, by regular folks around the globe? Including good Christians in the US, who were “probably Americans”? A country not run by Nazis, and not criminalizing homosexuality?

    Hitler had to get rid of Roehm because he had done his job of recruiting storm troopers against the communists and other Hitler opponents, and because his homosexuality was an open secret that annoyed many Christian heteros who were naturally much more numerous, and Hitler needed the support of Christians and the Churches in Germany much more by that point than he needed storm troopers.

    The camps were to a large extent run by prisoners, German or otherwise. Many of them were regular criminals. Homophobia was common among all of them, no matter their differences wrt ethnicity, religion or ideology.

  176. Erzberger says:
    @Wielgus

    Much like the British, Americans, Jews, Poles etc still saying stuff like: “He/she is German but I actually like him/her”

  177. Erzberger says:
    @paranoid goy

    “There is nothing sinister about piles of shoes and wigs. As a matter of fact, it is basic proof that a holocaust never happened, why would the army keep personal belongings of people they do not expect to discharge, hopefully soon?“

    Good grief, you holocaust deniers are as ignorant as your target group, the so-called Holocaust religionists.

    Have you heard of Aryanization? Or the fact that the barracks at Auschwitz where shoes, clothes, jewelry etc was sorted was dubbed “Canada”, and why?

    The land of plenty, supplying the British with food and other goods during the war whereas the Germans and their allies, as well as German occupied countries, were fighting a multi-front war against a coalition of enemies with infinitely more human and material resources, who had imposed a naval blockade since the beginning of the war

    Wehrmacht soldiers marched through the Russian winter with insoles made of human hair collected in “Canada”/Auschwitz. Shoes, clothes and silk stockings were delivered to the citizens of the Reich and occupied countries, to keep them from revolting against the hardship of war or occupation. Gold collected from jewelry and gold teeth was used to buy whatever was needed. Ashes were used as fertilizer on the surrounding Polish fields. An estimated 25- 30% of the war effort was financed by confiscated, aryanized Jewish property. Jews were offered for sale to the Allies, in exchange for tanks and ammunition, but nobody was buying. It would have saved the Jews but prolonged the war, and reduced German villainy and atrocities. This was not in the interest of any of the Allies.

    But keep on claiming that nobody had any use for shoes or hair, and why would anyone bother with such trifles, or, conversely, that Jews were killed for no other reason but hatred and anti-semitism, and with gratuitous cruelty for no other purpose but humiliating them.

    JS Spaight, in his seminal 1944 defense of British bombing of German cities and civilians (“Bombing vindicated”) made the point that the British were doing Germany a favour by killing civilians, including women, children and old people who posed no threat to anyone, and whose ruthless murder outraged many in Britain: a country fighting a war under a blockade must remove “useless eaters” to survive, and this was so-to-speak, the friendly assistance the British provided to Hitler. And that more Germans died of starvation during WW I than on the battlefield. Hitler, and not just he, did not want a repeat performance, and nobody could seriously expect that he would feed Jews rather than Germans. It was crystal clear since Hitlers infamous “Prophesy speech” in January 1939, broadcast around the globe, that another world war resulting in the defeat of Germany could only be won at the price of sacrificing the Jews of Europe. Everybody knew this, or could have figured that one out, and was willing to pay that price

  178. Wally says:
    @Wielgus

    As I stated and you cannot refute:

    – “The fact is that German National Socialist policies and actions towards homosexuals were no different than other governments at the time, and in many cases less severe. There is absolutely no proof that they executed homosexuals just for being homosexuals, none.”

    – Roehm was arrested for treason, plotting to overthrow the government. Pay attention.
    You don’t even know the facts about events you amateurishly try to discuss.

    – Your silly quote is baseless, unverifiable, and childishly contrived.
    Please give us the names of just three “survivors”, tell us specifically what they said in their own words, where they supposedly were, when they said it, and in what court.
    – Considering that homosexual were allegedly “exterminated just for being homosexuals”, yet there are supposedly tons of “survivors” contradicts the very narrative you are trying to defend.

    -again, what you dodged:
    The Myth of a Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals, by Jack Wikoff: http://www.cwporter.com/homo.htm
    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894
    homosexuals – Yad Vashem …: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

  179. Robjil says:
    @Erzberger

    Whatever happened or made to look like it happened.

    The Zionists wanted it. They were talking about 6 mill since 1823. They wanted Israel above all.

    This is what WWII was all about. The Zionists did not care if little Jews were bothered in the process. They also did not care at all that all of Europe was ripped up and millions of non-Jews died in process too.

    https://lovkap.blogspot.com/2010/09/ooops-6-million-jewish-holohoax-russia.html

    If England had honored its commitment given to Rothschild contained in Balfour Declaration of giving Jerusalem to Rothschild and creating Israel rather than creating Czechoslovakia, than neither WW2 would have happened and nor the myth of 6 million Jewish Holocaust.

  180. @Erzberger

    For those disinclined to associate with Jews, it’s fortunate that through the forced forbidding of its discussion, the Jew picture of WWII must be considered false in any part where it deviates in a direction Jews forbid (by force or its threat) discussing publicly.

    Problem solved. Any Jew instigation or encouragement of anti-revisionism renders the Jew position settled; it’s a lie.

    Enhancement: Anyone involved in prohibiting public disputation of Jew folklore is subject to undergoing Jew folklore in reality.

    • Replies: @Erzberger
  181. Robjil says:
    @Robjil

    The six million number was even mentioned for a Jewish Revolt in Roman Times. It is a ritual number. We have been living in a Zionist fantasy world since 12. 23. 1913.

    https://lovkap.blogspot.com/2013/09/what-is-true-meaning-of-final-solution.html

    May 1897; “Open Court” a Magazine on science of Religion publishes in chapter of Jerusalem and Judea that “nearly six million Jews” lost their lives in revolt led by their messiah Bar- Cocheba (Bar-Kakhba Revolt).

  182. @Robjil

    This also goes to the question of Jewish population numbers pre-war. The initial estimate of the death toll after the war was 4.5M, from a pre-war total population of 15.5M. Shortly thereafter, without any real justification, Jewish organizations increased the pre-war number to 16.7M, which gave a death toll closer to the hallowed 6M. The number 6 appears to have some kind of kabbalistic significance. The number of Jews living in Poland and Russia pre-war was most likely greatly exaggerated.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  183. Robjil says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    https://www.ihr.org/books/hoggan/A3.html

    A lot of number play for the 6 mill.

    According to Chambers Encyclopedia the total number of Jews in 1939 in eventually Nazi-occupied territory was 6,500,000. Many of these fled before the Nazis took over. In Colliers, June 9, 1945, Freiling Foster, referring to the estimated 5,800,000 Jews in Soviet Russia, explains that, “2,200,000 have migrated to the Soviet Union since 1939 to escape the Nazis.” This reasonable and realistic figure reduces the Jews Hitler ever could have executed to 4,300,000.

    The Soviet Union was pro-Jewish, so it was quite easy to go to the Soviet Union for Jews.

    But of these, too, certainly several million escaped. Philip Friedman in the universally acclaimed as authentic, Their Brothers’ Keepers (Crown, N.Y., 1957), whose purpose was to keep Nazi crimes alive, admits that: . more than 2,000,000 remained alive. Those surviving were saved by flight, emigration or evacuation before the arrival of the Germans … But a least a million Jews survived in the very crucible of the Nazi hell, the occupied areas. (p. 13)

    Switzerland and Spain was where many Jews were brought to during the war.

    There is ambiguity here as to whether two million survived by flight and an additional million under the Nazis-or whether both categories add up to two million. But in any case, it shows that millions survived and also that the Nazis could not have planned total extermination, for if they had they would not have spared over a million of them. According to Their Brothers’ Keepers, 75% or 285,000 of the Jews of France were spared, 90% or 45,000 of Bulgaria’s were spared, an even higher percentage was spared in Finland, Italy and Denmark (p. 44), and “Dutch, Belgian and French Jews were convoyed by the thousands to Switzerland or to Spain.” (p. 47)

    Soviets barred investigation after war of areas that they ruled. The west is ruled by Zionists, so the 6 mill continues on today.

    In short, wherever the West has been free to look, even such anti-German reporters as Philip Friedman must concede that the Nazis spared the overwhelming percentage of Jews. Consequently, the only refuge for the six million legend is areas where the Soviets have barred investigation and where they can lie at will, as when at the Nuremberg trials they accused the Germans of the murder of the Polish officers at Katyn! Even so, Friedman’s admission reduces the figure of six million by from two to three million at least.

    • Agree: the grand wazoo
  184. Erzberger says:
    @schnellandine

    “a directions Jews forbid”

    There is no such thing as “Jews”, just as there is no such thing as “Germans”, or whoever. And nobody is just a Jew, without being impacted by other identity issues. What does one make of a German Jew, in which historical period, and how would a German Jew be impacted by also being an American, an Israeli, a Russian, a Chinese, a citizen of the German Reich in Imperial, Weimar or Nazi Germany? Everytime I hear nonsense like: why would Jews join Hitlers Wehrmacht, I know that antisemitic notions of dual loyalty are still alive and well, among both antisemites and anti-antisemites.

    German-American Jews, for instance (Morgenthau sen and jr, Schiff, Kahn, Baruch, Frankfurter, Warburg, and many others) displayed a variety of views of Germany (as well as Jewishness and Zionism) that were not all that different from non-Jewish German Americans in the WWI/II period. Morgenthau jr, for instance, did not give a fig about how Jews in German concentration camps were negatively impacted by leaks of the so-called Morgenthau plan, which was instantly proclaimed by Goebbels as a Jewish murder plan against Germany, and unleashed a wave of genocidal Jew hatred in Germany. Morgenthau only cared about how it would impact his son (in Europe at the time), and his credentials as an American patriot whose main concern was the protection of American lives in uniform – who now had to fight against renewed and bitter “never surrender” resistance by the German enemy.

    Jews benefitting from casting the Holocaust as the worst crime in human history is one thing: at least they have something to complain about. I am a lot more annoyed by Brits and Americans, Russian and Poles, or Belgians, whitewashing their history by claiming that all their crimes are negligible in comparison with the ultimate Nazi crime, and redeemed by defeating the Nazis. False equivalence and utterly despicable, too

  185. Erzberger says:

    addendum:

    nobody has done more wrt relativizing the allegedly unique and sole German responsibility for the Holocaust than Jewish and Israeli historians, not to mention the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem. For that, any German and any historical truth seeker must be grateful. And I am both.

    • Replies: @UncommonGround
  186. Erzberger says:
    @Robjil

    “ The Zionists wanted … Israel above all” – “This is what WW II was all about”

    Are you serious? Im afraid so.

    Sure, the Zionists wanted Israel. So what? The Poles wanted Poland, in late 18th c borders. You think the Polish question had nothing to do with WW II?

    If so, I just cant be bothered to respond in more detail

    • Replies: @Robjil
  187. Robjil says:
    @Erzberger

    The biggest problem of our time is the big 6 protection racket.

    Our Zion MSM uses the big 6 to silence any criticism of Top Zion/Jewish behavior.

    The US uses it to cover its actions too.

    Mad Albright said it was OK for a half million Iraqi children dying of US sanctions. Our Zion MSM did not get too upset by this. Why? It wasn’t as “bad” as the 6 mill.

    The “Seven Nations to destroy” agenda for the US/Israel nine eleven game is taken from the Torah/Old Testament. This agenda is how Israel of the Torah was created.

    Why doesn’t our “free” Zion MSM press denounce this? It is Synagogue and state in action. Church and state is not allowed in our government. So why should Synagogue and State be allowed in our government? The big 6 racket allows Synagogue and State to be promoted to the highest level of our government with no fear at all.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/after-netanyahu-speech-congress-is-officially-high-school-41582/

    The infamous clapping for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when he spoke to Congress on March 3rd, 2015. An example of idolization of the big 6 in action in our Congress. Netanyahu and Israel are given cover to the most extreme levels ever seen in history with the big 6 racket.

    First of all, the applause from members of the House and Senate was so over the top, it recalled the famous passage in the Gulag Archipelago about the apparatchik approach to a Stalin speech: “Never be the first one to stop clapping.”

    This is all possible because of the big 6 as the “worst crime” in history. It is being used as a cover for Top Zionist/Jewish criminals and not for anything good for our planet.

  188. Robjil says:
    @Erzberger

    The division of Europe after WWI was not done with finesse.

    It was done that way to make WWII possible.

    WWI was the for the Balfour Declaration.

    WWII was for Israel.

    “Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed names and explains how Top Jewish Zionist Advisors in Britain and US who promoted WWI for the Balfour Declaration.

    The same type of Advisors did the same for WWII for the creation of Israel.

  189. Take a look at some youtubers’ walks through NYC during the Great Corona Plague (my favorite refuses to wear a mask.) There was almost no indication of any commotion of any kind, ambulances sat around, hospital workers seem nonchalant. Then came the zombie apocalypse of mask-wearers. It all looks worse, but still no plethora of deaths. He listened in on the “refrigerator trucks’ supposedly containing corpses and there was only silence. A hospital worker told him the motors would have been loud had there been any bodies in them. They filmed burials on an island outside the city where a lot of homeless are buried, and called them “corona deaths.” It’s all a hoax.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  190. Hey, without their lies and control of everything media the holohoax could never have happened. Remember the 6 billion.

  191. @Erzberger

    That’s why the zionists have tried so hard to make all believe jew is a race. It isn’t. It’s a satanical religion that worships satan and claims Jesus Christ is in hell boiling in his own excrement. jewish control of the media, second only to banking, is all important to their phoney history and narrative. Without drilling the paranoid thinking, that everyone is out to get them, into the minds of their children they may be able to live among us. Maybe.

  192. @Erzberger

    There is no such thing as “Jews”, just as there is no such thing as “Germans”, or whoever.

    Rolling my eyes. You’re the same person who uses ingeniously the birdfeed word “antisemite”.

  193. anarchyst says:
    @Erzberger

    The piles of shoes and massive amounts of hair in the jewish freak shows known as jewish “holocaust™ museums” are no different than Hollywood “props”, commonly used in motion picture productions. As jews have extensive experience in creating fantasies for public consumption, utilizing piles of shoes and hair serve the same purpose. Only this time, it is used to evoke a “response” from gentiles, playing on (false, misplaced and undeserved) guilt to “keep the shekels flowing”.

  194. MESSIAH RABBI SCHNEERSON SAID,
    “THE HOLOCAUST WAS A SURGICAL PROCEDURE.”
    GOD AS SURGEON
    The Lubavitcher Rebbe,Rabbi Menachem Schneerson described the Holocaust by comparing God to a surgeon who amputates a patient’s limb in order to save his life.
    Yehuda Bauer
    Jun 01, 2007 12:00 AM
    The panel discussion on “Haredim and the Holocaust” recently aired on Channel 1 should have included the views of the Lubavitcher Rebbe (Chabad’s so-called “King Messiah”), Rabbi Menachem Schneerson.

    [MORE]

    On the subject of the Holocaust, the Rebbe wrote as follows:

    “It is clear that ‘no evil descends from Above,’ and buried within torment and suffering is a core of exalted spiritual good. Not all human beings are able to perceive it, but it is very much there. So it is not impossible for the physical destruction of the Holocaust to be spiritually beneficial. On the contrary, it is quite possible that physical affliction is good for the spirit”
    (“Mada Ve’emuna,” Machon Lubavitch, 1980, Kfar Chabad).

    Schneerson goes on to compare God to a surgeon who amputates a patient’s limb in order to save his life. The limb:

    “is incurably diseased … The Holy One Blessed Be He, like the professor-surgeon…seeks the good of Israel, and indeed, all He does is done for the good…. In the spiritual sense, no harm was done, because the everlasting spirit of the Jewish people was not destroyed.”

    The Rebbe’s stance, therefore, is clear: The Holocaust was a good thing because it lopped off a disease-ravaged limb of the Jewish people – in other words, the millions who perished in the Holocaust – in order to cleanse the Jewish people of its sins.

    There is logic in this theology:

    If God is indeed omnipotent, knows everything and controls the world (“God presides over the trials of 4 billion people all day long, every day without a moment’s rest”), which implies divine supervision on an individual and collective basis, then the Holocaust took place not only with his knowledge, but also with his approval.

    Schneerson does not accept the idea of “hester panim,” or God’s face being turned away, to explain why He was not present when 1.5 million Jewish children were murdered. According to some religious Jews, this hester panim was a consequence of man’s sins, and, above all, the sins of the Jewish people. Schneerson says that God was there, and that he wanted the Holocaust to happen. But because it is inconceivable, in his view, for God to commit evil, he portrays the Holocaust as a positive event, all the more so for the Jews.

    After this text was published in the summer of 1980, kicking up a storm, Chabad claimed it was based on an inaccurate Hebrew translation of talks that the Rebbe delivered in Yiddish. The Rebbe, they said, had no idea his remarks were being published. It seems hard to believe Schneerson would not go over every word published in his name, let alone a text put out in Hebrew by Machon Lubavitch in Kfar Chabad.

    In fact, there is a document written by the Rebbe himself, in Hebrew, which bears his statements about the Holocaust. The late Chaika Grossman, a leader of the underground in the Bialystok ghetto, who survived the war and served as a Knesset member for several terms, published an article in Hamishmar newspaper on August 22, 1980, quoting Schneerson and expressing her profound shock at his words. On August 28, 1980, the Rebbe sent her a reply on his personal stationary. The letter, apparently typewritten, contains a number of corrections in his own handwriting, and is signed by him. In it, the Rebbe confirms everything in the published text.

    His remarks, Schneerson explained, were based on the Torah. Hitler was a messenger of God in the same sense that Nebuchadnezzar is called “God’s servant” in the Book of Jeremiah (chapter 25). The “surgery” he spoke of was such a massive corrective procedure that the suffering (i.e., the murder of the Jews) was minor compared to its curative effect.

    I was invited to take part in this television debate, but my appearance was cancelled at the last moment, perhaps because of my opinions on the subject. The truth is, there are no “Haredim.” There are Haredi groups and Haredi individuals, and their conduct during and after the Holocaust took different forms. Since the Holocaust, Jews have wrestled with this issue and continue to do so. Rabbi Schneerson’s views are one of many.
    But Chabad is a large and influential Hasidic dynasty. It has a messiah who lived and died, and many look forward to his resurrection. In this respect, Chabad is a kind of semi-Christian movement. Therefore it is important to know what its leader said. The “King Messiah” did not deny the Holocaust. He justified it.
    The author is a Holocaust scholar.

    Yehuda Bauer
    Haaretz Contributor

  195. @CharlotteKey

    Do you have a link to these videos?

  196. @Erzberger

    nobody has done more wrt relativizing the allegedly unique and sole German responsibility for the Holocaust than Jewish and Israeli historians,

    Could you mention some names, give an explanation for what you said?

    • Replies: @Erzberger
  197. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @Erzberger

    There is no such thing as “Jews”, just as there is no such thing as “Germans”, or whoever. And nobody is just a Jew, without being impacted by other identity issues. What does one make of a German Jew, in which historical period, and how would a German Jew be impacted by also being an American, an Israeli, a Russian, a Chinese, a citizen of the German Reich in Imperial, Weimar or Nazi Germany? Everytime I hear nonsense like: why would Jews join Hitlers Wehrmacht, I know that antisemitic notions of dual loyalty are still alive and well, among both antisemites and anti-antisemites.

    Jewish lies^^.

    With the passage of time, I see that Jews are becoming inclined to use ever-more verbosity to attempt (and largely fail) to propagandize gentiles with the tired BS that they’ve always failed to convince them on.

    It is amusing to witness the ever-increased effort for less return.

    More gentiles are less inclined to Jew BS, by the day.

    The increased (empty) verbosity in the face of ever more disbelief stinks of desperation, and it ironically works to hasten what you are trying to prevent: majority hostility to Jewish presence. Obvious lies make no friends.

    Judaism is predicated on the concept of the Jew as a singular entity; different from anyone else. This is common knowledge and the truth.

    Jewish claims to the lie of shared identity with gentiles seeks to integrate Jews into gentile society for pure selfish gain, all the while Judah keeps an politically internal view of separate identity with completely separate political goals that their (German, English, American, etc) “brethren” are not entitled to share on equal grounds (should they survive at all, according to the Jewish religious texts).

    Judaism itself spends most of its time refuting your lie. We hardly need to spend time on it here.

    Judaism spends its time crooning about the destruction of gentiles and their right to the takeover of their land. Mandates that are punctuated by holidays that almost singularly focus on the murder of gentiles. That includes the destruction of the gentiles who you lie about sharing an identity with.

    No Jew can be anything other than a Jew, because that is what Judaism demands: complete loyalty to Judah.

    In the context you use the term, the “antisemitic” truth that you protest against is merely a truth that hurts your interests as a Jew.

    This is is the widely-obvious and functional definition of antisemitism: which inverts any moral authority that you are trying to imply through your use of it.

    There is ever-wider awareness of the true meaning of “antisemitism”. One day, it will be a popualr assumption. Jews cannot stop that fact, and their abuse of the accusation is 100% to blame.

    Because Semitism is focused on the destruction of everyone else, and antisemitism solely implies being against Jewish political interests, it follows that antisemitism is both highly moral and necessary for the survival for everyone else.

    Few if any Jews would kill other Jews to save non-Jews. That single fact refutes your lie of a shared identity.

    Jews lost the moral position for their assertion of political self-determination in Israel when they denied the same to their “fellow” Germans.

    You should return to tell us more about your moral and sociopolitical hypocrisies. We’d be glad to dissect them and laugh some more at your morally, theologically, and sociopolitically ridiculous claims.

    • Replies: @Erzberger
  198. Anon[409] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews benefitting from casting the Holocaust as the worst crime in human history is one thing: at least they have something to complain about. I am a lot more annoyed by Brits and Americans, Russian and Poles, or Belgians, whitewashing their history by claiming that all their crimes are negligible in comparison with the ultimate Nazi crime, and redeemed by defeating the Nazis. False equivalence and utterly despicable, too

    What do Jews have to complain about?

    A lie that is so obvious, and prone to scientific disproof, that it becomes a requirement to make questioning it to be illegal?

    We’re getting to the point that drawing any attention to it whatsoever is becoming a liability for Jews.

    Of course a Jew would be “annoyed” at the people who gave hundreds of thousands of their son’s lives to pull Jewish asses out of the fire that they got themselves into, and are continuing to get themselves into today. A fire that the Jews were wholly responsible for (see communism, to start).

    Such annoyance is very Jewish of you and is a peek of one minor facet of why Jews are universally hated. Remember that. You’re house isn’t made so much out of glass as it is of thin plastic wrap.

    What history do Jews whitewash?

    The last time that I checked, it was taking a massive censorship effort to stop wider-spread knowledge of Jewish crimes.

    Given the public political history, the eschatological aims, and gentile-sacrifice rituals of the Jewish religion, no Jew can morally lecture any European.

    To think as much means that you have no concept of yourself or who is generous enough to shelter you without plans for your immediate expulsion.

    Your silly entitlement and sheltered over-estimation of yourselves is your Achilles heel. That will not change. The second we get tired of either, on a mass scale, this charade ends.

    You can attempt to lecture us until then, with no moral authority. I recommend being more polite. It may buy you something. Or don’t be. Your uppity nonsense is no matter to us in the long run.

    • Replies: @Erzberger
  199. Erzberger says:
    @UncommonGround

    Yehuda Bauer had a major impact on revising the Auschwitz death toll from 4 to 1 million., also Arno Mayer (Why did the Heavens not darken?), or how about the first study on the Holocaust by Raul Hilberg who challenged the mythical 6 million figure, and brought it down to some 5 million?Norman Finkelstein: The Holocaust Industry, A Nation on Trial?
    and many more

    • Replies: @Robjil
  200. Erzberger says:
    @Anon

    “No Jew can be anything other than a Jew, because that is what Judaism demands: complete loyalty to Judah.”

    Thats what Hitler said but at least he wasn’t dumb enough to actually believe it. You apparently are. Judaism doesnt demand anything, and one Jews religion is another Jews heresy (sorry about spelling, my keyboard doesnt let me put in apostrophes for some reason) . Same with Christianity and Islam. Even if Israel was inhabited by 100% Jews, they couldnt agree on much regarding Judaism or anything else. Thats the reality.

    Besides, your argument is offensive to me as a German. Germans were portrayed in the exact same way during the anti-German propaganda wars before and during WW I (with many Jews, esp. German Jews, but also the naturally pro-German Russian Jewish emigrees, pushing that line for the purpose of demonstrating their loyalty to the host country: US, Australia, UK, France etc). Their large diaspora was pictured as being secretly aligned with their German compatriots in Germany and Austria, seeking world control. All a bunch of absurd nonsense – but it worked. Thats why Nazi propaganda thought theyd be incredibly smart by uniting anti-semites around the globe for the purpose of keeping everybody out of WW II. It backfired, badly, because nobody cared about saving the Jews, least of all the Jews in countries ouside continental Europe

    “Few if any Jews would kill other Jews to save non-Jews.”

    Jews fought in every army during WW II, including the Wehrmacht. Soviet Jews had no trouble killing them, or vice versa, nor did American or British Jews have any qualms about killing German civilians, including Jews. Nor did German Americans have any qualms about killing Germans. Your claims have no basis in fact

  201. Robjil says:
    @Erzberger

    Whatever it is. The big 6 or 5, the mandated number of the day, it is the new sun that we all must worship above all. It gives Top Jews/Zionists god like immunity to do anything on our planet.

    Pelosi,the Zionist zombie, said these words last year. She said these words at the Israel America Council’s National Conference.

    https://breakthematrix.com/blog/pelosi-if-our-capitol-crumbles-to-the-ground-the-one-thing-that-remains-is-our-commitment-to-israel/

    “I have said to people when they ask me if this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain is our commitment to our aid…and I don’t even call it aid…our cooperation with Israel. That’s fundamental to who we are.”

    The writer of the article sums up the insanity of what she said.

    Nancy Pelosi put Israel before America.
    If our Capitol crumbled to the ground we should be more worried about giving money to Israel and helping them, than anything else?
    Something stinks in America. It’s time to take out the trash.

    The big 6 or 5 is not doing anything good for our planet. The big 6 or 5 wall has to be taken down to save our planet.

  202. Erzberger says:
    @Anon

    “A lie that is so obvious, and prone to scientific disproof, that it becomes a requirement to make questioning it to be illegal?”

    it is certainly not a lie that Jews were killed in very large numbers during WW II, most of them not in gas chambers – but some of them: yes. There is no “scientific proof” for a lot of historical events nobody doubts happened. And the Holocaust isnt the only historical event that is protected by laws. See the Armenian genocide in Turkey (laws against asserting any of it). The Hitler-Stalin pact (never happened, according to Russian laws.)Poland now has laws for the prosecution of anyone who insults Polish history (by, for instance, implicating them in the Holocaust – during or after the German occupation)

  203. @Erzberger

    ‘An estimated 25- 30% of the war effort was financed by confiscated, aryanized Jewish property. ‘

    ! And Jews made up — what — 3% of the total population under German rule?

    They must have been fabulously wealthy. Either that or the ‘war effort’ wasn’t too strenuous for anyone else.

    Or maybe your figure’s crap?

  204. Wielgus says:
    @Nuncle

    Researching other historical subjects, I have often found Jews who did not make it through the Third Reich. Which tends to fit the established narrative.
    http://honsi.org/svejk/?page=11&lang=en
    Hans Bigler was the real-life prototype for Cadet Biegler in The Good Soldier Svejk, the best-known Czech novel of the 20th century. Bigler survived the Third Reich – his Jewish father did not, being killed in Bergen-Belsen.
    Hasek, the author of the novel, did not make Biegler Jewish, probably because he did not know Bigler was Jewish or half-Jewish.

  205. Robjil says:
    @Wielgus

    Whatever happened, it was wanted to happen or look like it happened. Thus, books like you said imply it. Many non- Jews died in WWII too. War hurts everyone.

    The 6 mill was talked about since 1823.

    It was wanted as an worship item, to get all us non- Jews to worship all Jews and their culture, be silent about about any bad things that Big Jews do and jail or make job less people who do not go along with the plan.

    This worship of a tiny culture is destroying our planet, and its human culture by destroying the ability of humans to freely debate.

    We have to return to Athenian debate and dropped cruelly enforced Jerusalem Revelation.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Wielgus
  206. Robjil says:
    @Wielgus

    The Rosemarie Koczy story is a good example of how easy it is to fool people with our culture’s worship of the big 6.

    https://www.dw.com/en/artist-rosemarie-koczy-allegedly-faked-her-holocaust-survivors-story/a-41301763

    Rosemarie Koczy’s works are in the collections of the Guggenheim in New York and of Yad Vashem in Israel. She claimed to be a Jew and Holocaust survivor. Now historians say that her life story was forged.

    Here is her real story.

    Arts
    Artist Rosemarie Koczy allegedly faked her Holocaust survivor’s story

    Rosemarie Koczy’s works are in the collections of the Guggenheim in New York and of Yad Vashem in Israel. She claimed to be a Jew and Holocaust survivor. Now historians say that her life story was forged.

    An exhibit of Rosemarie Koczy works in the USA (Getty Images/AFP/J. Lott)

    Born in 1939 in Recklinghausen, in the Ruhr area, Rosemarie Koczy had been living in the US since the mid-1980s until her death in 2007.

    The artist presented herself as a Jew who had survived two concentration camps, as she claimed in her memoir published in 2009.

    However, through an exhibition of more than 100 of her works bequeathed to the city of Recklinghausen, historians have raised doubts about her life story, as initially reported by German public radio broadcasters Deutschland Funk and WDR on November 8.

    Different documents prove forgery

    Her family’s name does not appear in the list of Jews who were deported from Recklinghausen, said the director of the city’s archives Matthias Kordes.

    Her birth certificate was also found, he explained, and it indicated that her parents and grandparents were Catholics — and not Hungarian Jews as she claimed. “She also had a Catholic baptism,” Kordes added.

  207. @Wielgus

    What do you mean by “killed” at Bergen-Belsen? The Germans executed him? (According to the official story, the “death camps” were only in Poland.)

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  208. Robjil says:
    @Robjil

    It is what it is. the proof in the press. Many articles about the 6 mill before it happened or made to look like it happenned. It is all for control and to silence any dissent about bad things that Top Zionist Jewish culture does. We have to break the silence for the sake of humanity.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/six_million.html

    Don Heddesheimer’s book,‭ ‬The First Holocaust:‭ ‬Jewish Fundraising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During and After World War One‭ ‬details‭ ‬the slew of‭ ‬Jewish atrocity propaganda even‭ ‬from‭ ‬before‭ ‬World War I.‭ ‬The First Holocaust features a remarkable‭ ‬collection of press clippings and propaganda articles dating back to‭ ‬the‭ ‬late‭ ‬19th century‭ ‬whereby‭ ‬claims of the suffering and imminent‭ ‬extermination of European Jewry were used for fundraising.‭ ‬The magic six million number may have got going around the time of the First International Zionist Congress of‭ ‬1897.

  209. Wielgus says:
    @Robjil

    Indeed, many non-Jews died. A relative of mine was surprised to learn that the Third Reich persecuted and killed people who were NOT Jews – and that was in the 1980s, before it became almost compulsory to view World War II in a certain way in many Western countries.

  210. Wielgus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    According to the article, June 4, 1944 was when he was killed. Bigler had been protected by having Argentine citizenship but at the start of the year under US pressure Argentina broke diplomatic relations with the Third Reich, so Bigler being an Argentine citizen went from being a factor giving him protection to making him a target, although Argentina did not actually declare war on Germany until early 1945.
    It was quite possible to die in a German camp – the lurid film images of emaciated corpses being bulldozed at the end of the war come from Bergen-Belsen. The source does not specify how Bigler was killed, other than that he was. Accounts of a number of camps, not just ones in Poland, mention inmates being made to carry heavier and heavier burdens up hills until they collapsed and were then killed, or SS guards grabbing inmates’ caps and throwing them, telling them to go and get it and then shooting them – afterwards writing a report claiming to have stopped an escape. Bigler may have annoyed a Kapo in some way who then killed him – who knows? Kapos were often casually brutal. What is known is Bigler was sent to Bergen-Belsen and did not survive the war. Bigler’s son Hans survived but may have been only half-Jewish – interviewed by a Czechoslovak publication in 1955, he attributed his own survival to the Gestapo HQ that contained his file being burned down in the Dresden raid towards the end of the war – Hans Bigler lived in the Dresden area.

  211. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wielgus

    So in other words, you have no idea how he died, but for ideological purposes you’re going to say he was killed (i.e. as part of the “extermination plan”). Got it.

    BtM

  212. Robjil says:
    @Wielgus

    The Big 6 is used for heresy trials. Whatever happened, we should be allowed to debate it and investigate it. Sylvia Stolz, a German Lawyer, did “too good of job” of defending Ernst Zundel in a 2006 trial in Germany. Therefore, she was jailed for such “heresy”.

    In 2013, in Switzerland she did a presentation. She was tried and jailed again in Germany for that presentation.Again for the heresy of the 20th and 21th century for anyone would questions or even defends a “big 6” denier.

    This is not a good thing for humanity. Humanity will decline if it is not “allowed” to debate and investigate things. We will soon return to the chimpanzee level if this continues.

    http://www.whale.to/c/sylvia_stolz.html

    Sylvia Stolz, a German Lawyer who was jailed for presenting evidence in the defence of her client in the criminal court trial in Germany of so-called holocaust denier Ernst Zundel, tells her story at the AZK (Anti-Zensor-Koalition) Conference in Switzerland, in November 2012. In 2008, she was banned from speaking during the trial, barred from presenting evidence, and criminally charged with contempt of court, and with inciting contempt, and charged under the same section of the German Criminal Code as her client, and subsequently imprisoned for 3 years. She is also barred from practising law.. After giving this presentation in Switzerland, she is now again facing criminal charges, as is the host and organizer of the AZK, Mr. Ivo Sasek.

  213. Nuncle says:
    @Wielgus

    Funnily enough, I didn’t say anything about the gulags at all. I’m a professional historian and I tend not to express views about subjects I haven’t studied, so I will say nothing about them now. It seems to me that your attempt to insert them into the argument is an attempt to muddy the waters.

    Generally speaking – referring to subjects I have studied – a great many ‘atrocities’ and ‘massacres’ reported in the public press over the last, say, two centuries, have been nothing more than allegations and rumours. Whether they got reported or not seems to have depended primarily on the political bias of the newspaper in question at the time. Newspapers know that very few readers are going to look into these things, even if they have the resources to be able to do so.

  214. Derer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You have ignored my post (101) above, which disproves your suggested distortion.

    Ironically, the disapproval of the 6 m figure is in the Jewish Virtual Library data on historical World Jewish population showing in 1880 at 7,800 000, then in 1939 at 16,728 000, in 1945 at 11,000 000 and in 2018 at 16,606 000.

    The 1939 figure of 16,728 000 is pure fantasy, cooked-up to show 6 m drop to 11,000 000 in 1945. Even high school student can calculate the rate of growth from these figures.

    The prewar annual growth of Jewish brethren at 1.3% (compounded) was not possible for the following reasons:

    – Prewar birth mortality was very high compared to postwar.
    – How could Jewish prewar population grew at 1.3% annually and postwar only at 0.39%. Other countries are showing exactly the opposite?
    – How could Jewish prewar population increased more than Switzerland (control group) when as a neutral country despite accepting refugees grew only at 0.67% annually?

    Applying prewar Jewish population growth at 0.67 (Switzerland, although too high for Jewish) the 1939 figure should be corrected to 11,584 000 max.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  215. Wielgus says:
    @Wielgus

    The source says he was killed in Bergen-Belsen. Your doubts about it are themselves ideological – you affect to believe the Third Reich was nothing but nice to Jews despite its propaganda presenting them as the fount of all evil, guilty for the outbreak of WW2 etc. Bigler probably would not have made it as far as June 1944 if his Argentine citizenship had not given him a measure of protection – until Argentina broke diplomatic relations, that is. Then Bigler was doomed.

  216. Pandour says: • Website

    One will be hard-pressed to find a more blatant fraud than the list of so-called victims of the Jasenovac labor camp compiled by the generally accepted main authority on the subject,the JUSP-Jasenovac-the government funded Jasenovac Memorial Site.One of the thousands of false victims thus far discovered is Stanko Nick who was allegedly killed as a child in 1941 but died on April 4th 2010.Nick was a diplomat and the current Croatian Prime Minister and Zionist-EU-commie stooge Andrej Plenković even attended his funeral.On the JUSP list are even Jews who according to Jewish sources survived the war,case in point Etelka Hacker,born in 1897.Her name can be found on the list of surviving Jews from Zagreb on the Sephardic Jewish site El Mundo Sefarad.To the El Mundo list of the over 1,000 Zagreb survivors-there were some 10,000 Jews in Zagreb in 1941-one must add some 6,000 more.Well over 300 died natural deaths during the war and are buried primarily in the Mirogoj Cemetery,a number died in exile in Switzerland,Italy and elsewhere,several dozen were killed in Allied bombings,dozens were killed in combat as partisans and dozens were killed by the communists.Amongst communist victims was Adolf Schwartz,a major in the Partisans who was doomed from the outset as he was the pre-war representative for the British Shell Petroleum Co. in Bosnia,industrialist Baron Viktor Gutmann, and Rudolph Crnić,the father of Croatian Supreme Court Judge Ivica Crnić, falsely accused of being an agent of the British IS.He was killed with 265 Croat civilians in Dugo Selo not far from Zagreb on May 8th 1945.

  217. @Derer

    Ironically, the disapproval of the 6 m figure is in the Jewish Virtual Library data on historical World Jewish population showing in 1880 at 7,800 000, then in 1939 at 16,728 000, in 1945 at 11,000 000 and in 2018 at 16,606 000.

    Nonsense. Jews themselves claim that there are ca. 14.5 million of them in 2018.

    https://www.jewishdatabank.org/databank/search-results/study/1060

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/number-of-jews-worldwide-nears-global-jewish-population-in-1925/

    The 1939 figure of 16,728 000 is pure fantasy, cooked-up to show 6 m drop to 11,000 000 in 1945. Even high school student can calculate the rate of growth from these figures.

    The prewar annual growth of Jewish brethren at 1.3% (compounded) was not possible for the following reasons:

    – Prewar birth mortality was very high compared to postwar.
    – How could Jewish prewar population grew at 1.3% annually and postwar only at 0.39%. Other countries are showing exactly the opposite?
    – How could Jewish prewar population increased more than Switzerland (control group) when as a neutral country despite accepting refugees grew only at 0.67% annually?

    Applying prewar Jewish population growth at 0.67 (Switzerland, although too high for Jewish) the 1939 figure should be corrected to 11,584 000 max.

    Your “stats” is completely useless. One should simply add the number of Jews in the US, Europe, Soviet Union & Palestine (plus a small amount in other countries) in the 1920s & 1930s. Their fertility rate was high in Poland and Baltic countries, definitely higher than Switzerland. And it is absurd to imagine that the whole world, even those antipathetic to Jewish interests, would not easily see that the global number of Jews is highly inflated.

    It takes a paranoid mind to not observe such trivial issues (where are Poland’s & Hungary’s 3-3.5 million Jews?).

    This is not worth discussing.

  218. @Bardon Kaldian

    Where are they? They were never there to begin with. The inferred 1.6% annual growth rate of world Jewish population between 1880 and 1914 (as per the Jewish Virtual Library) is simply unbelievable. There is no doubt the Zionists had every incentive to inflate Jewish population numbers to bolster the case for a Jewish homeland. The Soviet numbers cannot be trusted for obvious reasons. The interwar Polish government, like the German government, cooperated with Zionists to encourage Jewish emigration, it is likely too the the Poles exaggerated the number of Jews under their jurisdiction. I would regard a world number of 13M Jews in 1939 as reasonable (and hence a death toll from various causes of around 2M, consistent with German documentation), but the 16.7M number (which was itself arbitrarily adjusted upward to get the hallowed 6M, initial estimates gave 4.5M off of an initial 15.5M, they’ve been juggling these numbers constantly) is a fabrication.

  219. @Wielgus

    ‘… SS guards grabbing inmates’ caps and throwing them, telling them to go and get it and then shooting them…’

    The Israeli variation on this is to throw a knife on the ground and tell the Palestinian to pick it up — then shoot him — or her. Here’s a video of an Israeli soldier trying to do just this with a young woman. She resists, and eventually a superior officer makes killer give up.

    https://youtu.be/Q6HJuiH181E’

    • Agree: Wielgus
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  220. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Astonishing how often Zionists have resorted to Nazi practices. Sabra and Shatila’s methodology resembled massacres of Jews after Barbarossa by Einsatzgruppen or German police. At the time, even some Jews said this aloud.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  221. Derer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “It takes a paranoid mind to not observe such trivial issues (where are Poland’s & Hungary’s 3-3.5 million Jews?).”

    There is no paranoia but my intolerance of primitive, childish arguments trying to refute the facts. You are peeing against the wind. Those inflated fake numbers of Jews in 1939 Europe have long been disproved. Look at the Jewish fertility from 1945 to 2018, whoopee 0.39% growth. Your tunnel vision is caused by the enormous passion of greater Israel.

  222. @Wielgus

    ‘Astonishing how often Zionists have resorted to Nazi practices.’

    Once you grasp that Zionism and Nazism are almost indistinguishable as ideologies, there’s nothing astonishing about it at all. Indeed, it would be odd if their practices differed.

  223. The Holocaust Myth is a complete fabrication. And now it is the new religion of the Jewish people and the life blood of Israel. Without the “Holocaust”, Zionism would not have been able to found the illegal state Israel. Without the Holocaust, all sympathy for the Jews would evaporate and Israel would be a disgrace.

    You want to defeat Zionism and Jewish world domination….simply expose the Holocaust Myth, it is their Achilles heel. It is their magical shield of deflection, obfuscation and redirection. Expose it and they are revealed to the world.

    https://codoh.com/

    https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/

    • Agree: John Wear, the shadow, Robjil
  224. @eah

    It also can cause problems for German politicians and officials.
    Because since 2015 is a case of “acessory for murder” too.

    Since the mid 70’s foreign “guest-workers” were permitted to stay , including to bring their families.

    Since the early 80’s the right for seeking asylum is misused.

    Since the early 90’s nobody cares and since the new millenium it is hailed to build an illegal muliticutural society.The German Passport is used as a kind of ticket for social welfare and to discredit real Germans from “Federal Germans”.

    Germans and other European countries never were asked about this.

    It is a kind of biological extermination too.

  225. anarchyst says:

    Hitting the holohoax (oops I mean “holocaust™”) head-on doesn’t work because of the jew-controlled media which has declared “holocaustianity™” to be the new worldwide “state religion” from which no dissension from its “orthodoxy” is permitted.

    The only way to counter “holocaustianity™” is to point out the scientific and engineering impossibility of every “holocaust™” claim.

    Let’s look at a number of claims that have been made and have been ingrained in “holocaust™” orthodoxy:

    — using “bug spray” (Zyklon B) as an execution agent (ha ha)
    “gas chambers” with ordinary wooden doors, not gas-tight doors
    “gas chambers” with no means to ventilate the chambers after “operation”
    “gas chamber” chimney not connected to anything
    “blood spurting out of the ground” for weeks and months
    “crematoria stacks with visible flames” (not possible) crematoria burn clean
    “thousands of bodies cremated per day” (not possible)
    “multiple bodies” in one “muffle” to “speed up” operations
    “lampshades, soap and shrunken heads”, oh my
    “the ability to tell when jews are being cremated by the smell or color of smoke”
    “claimed burial grounds not being permitted to be disturbed” per jewish “law”

    NONE of these claims are possible or valid and can be easily debunked using sound scientific and engineering principles.

    I have been thrown out (asked to leave) those “jewish freak shows” called “holocaust™”museums for merely attempting to point out these facts.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  226. On Austtralian ABC Saturday Extra this morning one Ariana Neumann was interviewed about the book she had written based on her Holocaust survivor father’s papers. Apparently his name is on a memorial in Prague as one of those who died. Can anyone say if he is recorded by Yad Vashem as one who died rather than survived to become very rich in Venezuela?
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/how-a-young-jewish-czech-man-tricked-the-nazis/12025924

  227. @anarchyst

    Doors that open inward aren’t too bright when the room is going to be stacked with stiffs,

  228. @brams

    Zionist W. D. Rubinstein, a professor at Deakin University in Melbourne, wrote: “If the Holocaust is proven to be a hoax, “the number one” weapon in Israel’s propaganda arsenal would disappear ”

    It all depends on how the propaganda is used. The Shoah can work against Zionism: If Jews suffered from Nazism, why are they acting like Judeo-Nazis to the Arabs?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  229. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Butt-plug say what?

  230. bluefire says:
    @eah

    The commie is the only European woman in that picture.

  231. bluefire says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The 6 is prophecy driven. Its been 600,000, 60,000…probably at a time 6,000. “6”.

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