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A new study by Northwestern University found that 29 million Americans, 11%, sometimes or often cannot afford to eat. This is a drastic rise from 2018, where only 8 million reported hunger.

The culprits cited are the high unemployment rate, COVID-19 school lock downs that prevent children from getting their subsidized means, and the inadequacy of the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP).

The increase in food insecurity has been hit the lower middle class the hardest. 12% of families in the $35,000-$50,000 income range year are now reporting that they do not have enough to eat.

The report awkwardly shoehorns critical race theory language in some sections, emphasizing that blacks are somewhat overrepresented among the hungry (22% vs 13.4% of the general population), but the plurality (42%) of Americans suffering from food crisis are white.

Lack of food tends to impact children disproportionately and white children are already less than 50% of the population under 15. 86% of the counties facing the worst hunger problems are rural.

The precarious economic situation of working and middle class Americans means that 46 million people relied on food banks before the pandemic. The current number of people in this situation is unknown, but it is certainly much higher and public food pantries are becoming overwhelmed.

As millions struggle to find a meal, farms across the country have been destroying record amounts of fresh food due to reduced demand on the market. The shocking practice is meant to prevent a reduction in prices and profits.

The sharp decline in civic engagement in America documented by figures like Robert Putnam has also led to increases in demand being met with a struggle to find volunteers to move and deliver food to the needy, especially the elderly who are at most risk from COVID-19.

Hunger is back.

(Republished from National Justice by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Economics • Tags: Poverty 
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  1. Rich says:

    It’s in the financial interest of certain groups to say there’s hunger, and to say children are hungry gets the donations rolling. The poor in the US are overfed and fat. Go to any poor area in NY and all you see are fat women and children everywhere. In Manhattan, where I work, the homeless junkies are fat. The only people going hungry in the US are those on diets.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Troll: Chris Mallory
  2. @Rich

    Over-fed and undernourished is only exasperated when animal protein prices surge. Ultra processed food choices ultimately lead to a sick population. While this enriches the Medical Industrial Complex and furthers Malthusian goals, it further dulls a population already unable to resist being led towards its culling.

    I don’t expect to see people eventually starving in the streets. I already see people starving while encumbered by their own bodies. There is a huge push towards moralizing and a rise in output from NGOs towards regulatory action causing animal protein to become out of reach for many people. So, eat the bugs, enjoy your lab-grown protein mass, but only the upper-tier will savour life-sustaining flesh.

    • Agree: Exile
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  3. Do these people know strategies to save money on groceries, and do they know how to prepare cheap meals at home? YouTube has countless how-to videos on these survival skills. I learned these things from my hillbilly mother, who grew up Grapes of Wrath-level poor.

    I do find it preposterous how many black mothers don’t feed their children, especially considering their heavily subsidized lives. You can make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for about $.50, and certainly for less than a dollar. Don’t tell me that poor blacks can’t afford that.

  4. Emslander says:

    Our government agriculture system is a tragedy and a scandal. 30 per cent of our best farm land is dedicated to the production of ethanol for mixing into the abundant gasoline that is produced much more economically from crude oil. Up until about 1970, most Americans had access to real farming, where food was abundant and cheap.

    Modernism and liberalism are absolute failures.

    • Agree: Exile
    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  5. So 86 percent of counties facing hunger are rural? When in rural areas gardens can be easily grown, where livestock such as chickens and ducks and goats and even a cow or two can be raised, where wild animals such as rodents (for instance, squirrels and gophers) and deer and antelopes and rabbits and other varmints can be shot and processed and where nosey neighbors are few and far between…

    So that either folks in these “rural” counties are what some might call “oxy-freaks” who are too stoned or whatever to actually work to feed themselves and their families, are too damned dependent on govt., or this statistic is skewed by the statistician. Because out here in far west Texas where deer and the antelope play, only newly arrived city folks who couldn’t trap a rabbit or are too weak to plant and grow a garden and couldn’t shoot straight if a mountain lion was 6 inches in front of them would go hungry out here!

    • Agree: Exile
    • Replies: @Christo
  6. Exile says:

    There is an all-fronts attack on American food consumption. A superabundance of cheaper processed food that kills and vastly-overpriced healthy food – a caloric caste system. A restaurant industry that’s serially-exposed for mislabeling food, health violations and particularly on the fast-food end, serving food that dogs know better to avoid. To say nothing of suborning illegal immigration and labor exploitation.

    Same with water. Pay inflated prices for (hopefully) pure water or drink your estrogen and other mystery chems from the tap.

    Ruralites need to start banding together and solving the “food desert” problem themselves. Too many low-agency people have simply been pushed into the rural fringes and the functional self-reliant ruralites shun them – often for good reason.

    Re-scaling and re-structuring our communities is key to these efforts. The current rural model of scattered small-towners shopping at a Wal-Mart or other big-box outfit is doing country living perfectly wrong. You need the kind of localism that sadly is more common among urban bugman foody-types ruining towns like Ashville, N.C. than in what used to be actual farming towns.

    • Replies: @Alden
  7. Alden says:

    Most bottled water is a mixture of ordinary city tap water and a bit of purified water whatever that is.

    Looking at the income, sales, business license, property etc taxes, plus permits inspections attorney fees just so we can make a living , school tuition in lieu of the public system and other taxes my family and I pay, all I can say is Frankly my dear, I don’t give a rat’s ass.

    We gave enough. If the giant government vacuum cleaner that sucks up so much of our earnings and wealth doesn’t do right by the welfare burden folks, it’s not our problem.

    As for the rural folks who can’t get it together to plant a fruit tree sapling a few seeds and get a few chicken; I suspect they are blacks in black neighborhoods in the south east. Plus, not every rural person has land? Maybe they live in project apartments? Whatever, use the tax money to feed the masses instead of wasting it on whatever.

  8. Alden says:

    Check out HillbillyHousewife if she’s still on the internet. She has 3 budgets; cheap, cheaper and disaster. Lots of good ideas, like pancakes and baked items with no eggs but an extra teaspoon or 2 of baking powder. Molasses and white sugar mashed up to make the more expensive brown sugar.

    Lots of cornbread and beans meals. Fried dough sprinkled in cinnamon sugar for a sweet treat. Very heavy on the carbs. Homemade soup not that high calorie cornstarch stuff that comes in cans. Rice is cheaper than noodles. Homemade noodles cheaper than store bought noodles. She’s heavy on traditional American cooking, not cheap Mexican or asian.

  9. As millions struggle to find a meal, farms across the country have been destroying record amounts of fresh food due to reduced demand on the market. The shocking practice is meant to prevent a reduction in prices and profits.

    Always sad when you discover a reporter you trusted is a bald faced liar, especially for those who don’t suffer from the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect and have to cross off that person from the list of those he follows.

    Did you think no one would click through the link and discover this was an April 11 article pertaining to the extremely swift changes in where people ate due to COVID-19? Rather than “meant to prevent a reduction in prices and profits,” (that’s an FDR trick, also seen today in policies like burning corn as fuel), the restaurant and food service supply chain saw its demand crater, while there were myriad shortages in the consumer to home supply chain, plenty of which are still an issue.

    They couldn’t sell fresh food to restaurants, cafeterias, etc. that were no longer open, and they couldn’t instantly redirect their produce to grocery stores. Even something you would think as simple as milk suffered, because of a lack of containers bigger than the half-pint ones used for schools.

    Why do you think anyone should believe another word that comes out of your mouth? Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

    • Troll: Biff
    • Replies: @Exile
  10. Exile says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Striker seems to attract a lot of commenters with little to no comment history who pick nits then tell readers “don’t listen to anything Striker ever says about anything.”

    Stay over the target, Striker.

    • Agree: Alden
  11. @advancedatheist

    Do these people know strategies to save money on groceries, and do they know how to prepare cheap meals at home?

    Generally, no – assuming that what is true for poor white English people, will be true for poor Americans.

    Jamie Oliver (an English TV celebrity cook) has done quite a few things over the years, about the travails of families from ‘housing estates’ (medium-density public housing in the UK).

    He was already fairly famous: so much so that when he did a piece on “pink slime” the exposure caused McDonald’s to stop using it. (“Pink slime” was the vile Franken-shit that used to be the input to the grey pucks of meat-adjacent crap that were used in McDonald’s burgers).

    Anyhow, in his material on the housing estates, the mothers were basically incompetent: they could put over fries and nuggets on a baking tray, but that was literally it.

    It didn’t help that the school ‘dinners’ to which the kids were entitled, also consisted of industrial shit (from memory, the school budget provided for about 50¢ per serve). One of his favourite targets for calumny was ‘turkey twizzlers’ (30% turkey mystery-meat, the rest ?), which were immensely popular with the kiddies.

    His eventual conclusion was that the demographic who are consumers of school dinners (largely urban, largely bottom-quintile) view ‘eating well’ as a middle-class affectation.

    To his credit, he’s done entire series trying to how people that you can make a very large array of good home-cooked food from fresh ingredients in 15-30 minutes, if you’re organised. (A good dozen of my ‘staple’ meals are from ‘Jamie’ recipes).

    In a US context: the same guy did a series called “Food Revolution” in about 2010. In one scene Oliver held up a few different fruits and vegetables in a class full of kiddies in Huntington, WVa, and they were unable to correctly identify things like raw potatoes and tomatoes. (To be fair: there were kids with their hands up in response to each question who may have known, but the kids selected to answer also had their hands up, and answered incorrectly).

    The pink slime ‘bit’ that made McDonald’s change its ways was from that series…

    • Replies: @animalogic
  12. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    the inadequacy of the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP).

    Why is it inadequate? Seems like there’s enough there and plenty of people are getting it. Drug and alcohol abuse contribute quite a bit to children not getting fed by their parents but that’s a hard nut to crack. There are many problems stemming from the enforced new depression but affordable food, as well as free food, are all over the place.

  13. @Exile

    Hey, if you have such a high tolerance for liars who claim to be on our side, I guess more power to you. But if there’s one thing that gives the dissent right any power right now, it’s a ruthless focus on reality, instead of the pretty and ugly lies of the mainstream in thrall or coerced to follow the Left.

    • Replies: @Exile
  14. The more politically astute among the readers of this article will not be able to escape the conclusion that this, the idea the millions of Americans are starving, is yet another bombastic scam and piece of propaganda by the democratic party. How can this be brothers and sisters when every single state in the U.S. has food depositories and warehouses that can be accessed by hungry Americans, not only in one region of any U.S. state but in several, where free food is available. If those food depositories fail, even the corner church in every U.S. city, can help the average hungry American. This is another lie so bombastic that only the political left is capable of perpetrating and spreading it. SHAME ON THEM.

  15. TG says:

    OK, so for now there is no real hunger in the United States, we are (for now) blessed with a superabundance of food. If there is an issue, it is that so many of the working class have been thrown onto the trash heap, and formal governmental safety nets increasingly don’t exist, that insecurity is rife.

    I mean, suppose you have no job, and no government assistance worth a damn, and vast debts, etc., and you still manage to get plenty of food begging at your local church and food bank? You are not hungry but that is very much not a good place to be, IMHO.

    But in the longer run we need to be careful. Americans may be like those rich kids that don’t value money because they always have so much of it… until they don’t. Our post-1965 immigration policy has already increased the population by 100 million and rising, and there are calls to push the population to a billion and beyond. Meanwhile our topsoil is eroding, supplies of fresh water are starting to become limiting, and we are increasingly exporting food to pay our bills instead of manufactured goods. The advent of chemical fertilizer and the green revolution etc. were amazing, but they were not a magic trick, and even they have limits as to what they can achieve… and for the last 15 years or so crop yields have been flattening.

    So no problems now, but long-term I think there are serious concerns.

    • Agree: animalogic, Exile
  16. @advancedatheist

    “Do these people know strategies to save money on groceries, and do they know how to prepare cheap meals at home?”
    Do they have a proper grocery store ? Do they have a home ? Do they have the internet ? Did anyone show them how to buy & prepare nutritious food ?
    Empathy is a pain — cynicism is much easier & often true — so its a win-win….

  17. @Kratoklastes

    I remember the “turkey twizler” episode. Its indeed hard to disbelieve that there are a significant minority (?) who simply know little about nutrition & all its practical demands.

  18. Exile says:
    @That Would Be Telling

    If you and I shared the same side you wouldn’t be calling Striker a liar over some nit-pickery. You and your barely double-digit comment history are obviously just here to patrol the fences for the establishment. It’s obvious and it’s not working.

  19. The author is sloppy and stoops to invoking emotionalism with the old ‘destroying crops for price’ in the face of hunger if his reference was strictly about the recent Covid 19 examples.

    A lot of pigs and a lot of milk was destroyed but was the only possible action producers had because of the immediate nature of of the retail shutdowns. He is more on target under normal circumstances but that is a necessary by-product of the always fresh supermarket model that everyone takes for granted. A lot of good food and still fresh items are regularly discarded. ‘Logical’ solutions always come from ‘citiots’ who don’t know anything about farming but weep for the poor who incidentally would spit in your face if you presented them with second hand food. Them being hungry and poor is largely a attitude problem not a calorie problem. That last blast up the nose or the $200 ‘kicks’ could have bought plenty of groceries.

    Another ‘citiot’ panacea is suggesting that rural communities get together and produce healthy organic food for which responsible city-dwellers will trek out to the farmer’s markets and gladly spend more to both eat healthier and support the locals. Been there, done that have the financial bullet holes to prove it.

    Here are the facts Ma’am. After an initial surge of ‘foodie’ enthusiasm our condo-dwelling cousins realized that eating is something that everybody does at least 21 times a week. After not too long this trekking and responsible eating starts hitting the pocket-book pretty hard and the next I-phone is about to come out. There is only so much money and hey, there are priorities.

    Added to which, with no exaggeration I would have to charge $16 for a single tomato and charge $20 for a pound for grass-fed ground beef to even approach anywhere near a 10-15% net, net EBITA. Even Bill gates isn’t going to pay me that.

    Industrialized agriculture is why the world’s population is approaching 8 billion. Enjoy your diabetes.


    • Replies: @Exile
  20. Possumman says:

    Go to any school district handing out “free meals” for kids and see the $40k cars and trucks driving up to get the freebies.

  21. Exile says:
    @Timur The Lame

    The (((elite))) project of dividing America against itself appears to be working great. It’s easier to get two groups to accept comforting half-truths that lay blame on the Other Guys than it is for everyone to accept some blame and/or recognize a structural problem, particularly where they benefit from it.

    Urban markets are in fact wasting food and urbanites are spending their money foolishly but that doesn’t account for the sharp uptick in the percentage of hungry people in a two-year span, or why rural counties are the ones getting hammered much harder. There are obviously economic roots to this.

    Food is being destroyed rather than being consumed by the hungry not only because of “just-in-time” production and inventories or Covid, but also because of market mal-investment. We turn tons of corn into ethanol rather than using it for livestock feed or human consumption. We grow rice in arid California by draining aquifers and rivers dry.

    Lionizing “industrial agriculture” is very wrong-headed and congratulating yourself for feeding 8 billion people, 90% of whom are not your own, is a self-own – to say nothing of snarking about how everyone is diabetic.

    Major cultural and structural changes are needed both on the city end and the farm end. One of the reasons you can’t make the local farm model work is that farms are over-scaled for profitability in a market dominated by mega-agribusiness. People have tastes that are entirely divorced from their location – guys who live in New York City want fresh California produce with no regard for the enormous shipping costs.

    Patting yourself on the back for feeding Somalia and blaming urbanite coke-habits for the 11% who go hungry (86% in rural counties) is no smarter than being a “citiot.”

    • Disagree: Alden
    • Replies: @Timur The Lame
  22. @Exile

    I would invite you to re-read my comment. I am neither lionizing big-agra nor am I feeding Somalia. I am a small time hobby farmer who loses money every year because I love the lifestyle and feel that it is both mentally and physically healthy for me.

    I am big enough and was expandable enough to partake in farmer’s markets, contract with restaurants and sell freezer beef none of which I have done now for a long time for reasons mentioned in my original post. I never made any viable money because industrial agriculture with it’s economies of scale make it literally impossible. I did have fun though.

    My reference to diabetes was to point out the irony of all the short-lived interest and activism for humane animal treatment and eating organic, pesticide free food which ignored a real killer which is processed food that makes up nearly all of what people eat because any solution would include personal sacrifice in the way of giving up toys or forestalling upgrades.

    If I seem a bit peeved about ‘citiots’ it is also in no small part because now when a calf tests the fences and wanders out to the road, some recently arrived sub-division drone immediately calls up 911 and I have to deal with the doughnut brigade for hours when the calf wandered back in on its own long ago. Before these poverty sob-sister types like you darkened the side-road we had level headed people that would shoo the creature in or at least drive in to tell me.

    Work on your reading comprehension or at least point out to me where you thought that I was not only endorsing a 8 billion population but in fact feeding them! Somalia? No corn for people?

    There is too much to engage but I am pressed for time. Like the people that you are a shining beacon for- I’m hungry.


  23. anon[215] • Disclaimer says:

    Hunger is back.

    Er, Kool-Aid is back.

  24. @Rapscallion

    What nonsense.

    Animal protein is only ‘cheap’ because of billions of dollars’ worth of subsidies, and indefensible treatment of the animals themselves – including, but not limited to: breeding animals that are physiologically abnormal; housing them in atrocious conditions; feeding them shit; dosing them with antibiotics. (‘Subsidies’ include both direct subsidies, and permits to CAFOs to put their sewage into water tables).

    Without those things, standard Western levels of meat consumption would be prohibitively expensive: people who eat modern industrial meat have to remain ignorant of the horror of the process (like buying a second hand dress from the Auschwitz thrift shop).

    The metabolic price of this nonsense is unfolding in real time – the nutritional profile of modern meat makes it less palatable and less healthy (prime among the latter: the changes in the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids in beef, pork and chicken meat).

    It has gotten to the point that if your diet includes industrially-produced meat, you’re worse off than you would be if you didn’t eat it. (I confess this pleases me. Reap what you sow, motherfuckers).

    That’s why all the ‘paleo’ and ‘keto’ wankers insist on eating grass-fed/free-range etc – the median family can’t afford to do that.

    Meanwhile, sensible vegetarians get just as much protein – and all essential amino acids – much much cheaper than the median omnivore (in fairness, vegetarians who don’t do their research are heading for metabolic disaster – albeit at a slower rate than omnivores).

    Put simply, it is possible to have a low-carb, high-fat, keto-inducing diet that is entirely plant-based and unbelievably inexpensive (my protein powder costs me less per kg of complete protein, than the cheapest ground round).

    I eat meat (rarely – less than once a week now): I’m ashamed to say, it’s solely for the taste – there is no deficiency in the rest of my diet. I also eat eggs (from domestic chickens) and cheese (goat and sheep cheese, mostly) – again, for the taste.

    Those options aren’t open to most people.

    Most meat consumption is in the form of processed shit where producers could use plant protein instead and consumers wouldn’t be able to taste the difference[1] – this is why the meat industry has spent a fortune to try to get stupid young men to believe that eating meat is part of a manly identity.

    [1] Some years ago there was a story in which a major chain got caught substituting plant protein in the ‘chicken’ pucks used in its sandwiches. Now they have a range of such offerings – a positive development (although the overall ‘package’ is still UFHC garbage, because of the sugary bread).

    UFHC: unfit for human consumption.

    • Replies: @Alden
  25. Christo says:

    Yea, I believe you know how to farm/grow things, or to hunt/skin/eat , or “catch” a rabbit. Maybe as something you hear about at best in a honky-tonk during a Hank Williams song. Far West Texas? LOL You sound like a fool to someone who knows about that stuff.

  26. A.M. says:

    Striker’s articles are usually on point, and he has a great news analysis site,

  27. Alden says:

    You’re a liberal aren’t you?

  28. @Emslander

    Up until about 1970, most Americans had access to real farming, where food was abundant and cheap.

    It’s pretty much the same in Australia, although probably not as bad yet as in the USA.

    Some of the other posters here focus their attention on the under-education & sloth of the victims, but those are just entirely predictable compounding factors in a larger problem. Kratoklastes in particular has a good handle on the difference between “fat” & “well fed”, the difference between real nutrition and frankenfoods. But again, that’s really just necessary survival knowledge within the context of a larger (and worsening) situation.

    I personally frame the core of the issue as “the joys of Capitalism”, where the rich get richer & the poor get the picture.

    As the author states, in a vivid example –

    As millions struggle to find a meal, farms across the country have been destroying record amounts of fresh food due to reduced demand on the market. The shocking practice is meant to prevent a reduction in prices and profits.

    The problem of malnutrition is real, but it’s an accessory consequence of the overall economic reality – “the joys of Capitalism”, wherein the ruling class experience affluence beyond their wildest dreams while the common folk are progressively ground into the dirt.

    I observed a stark and highly annoying example of this reality when just recently, the Australian Prime Minister was televised at a press conference gushing ” We’re Australians, and we’re a wealthy country!”, followed immediately thereafter by a charity advertisement asking for people to sponsor an Australian child, because “one in six Australian children are living in poverty and can’t afford the materials they need to go to school”.

    Sure, we have lots of very wealthy politicians & public servants, with their obscenely lucrative taxpayer-funded salaries and pensions, but we’re not a “wealthy country”.

    The rich get richer & the poor get the picture.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  29. Emslander says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    I personally frame the core of the issue as “the joys of Capitalism”, where the rich get richer & the poor get the picture.

    It’s not as simple as that. Compared to my grandfather, a genuine American peasant, barely a generation removed from European peasantry, Bill Gates ought to be considered poor.

    My grandfather had about fifteen acres of very rich Illinois farmland on which he was able to raise all the fresh unadulterated food his large family needed for extremely good health. He also produced specialty crops of fruits, vegetables and berries that he sold to retail grocers, so that he had plenty of cash. Photographs showed the family as well-dressed and enjoying a well-furnished home with rich cultural objects. When he died, he left a large estate.

    Many others were just like him all through the Midwest.

    “Agricultural Policy” beginning in the Roosevelt years turned much of this formerly productive land into the industrial farms we now have because too many of the the children of these men chose an easy life of government subsidy to the hard work of real farming. I think the consequences of socialized agriculture have been destructive. More destructive than capitalism. Free markets allowed those old-timers to do very well.

  30. My grandfather had about fifteen acres of very rich Illinois farmland on which he was able to raise all the fresh unadulterated food his large family needed for extremely good health.

    I hear you. I was raised on a farm myself, my family enjoyed excellent health, and in truth, those days were the best in my life.

    It’s not as simple as that. Compared to my grandfather, a genuine American peasant, barely a generation removed from European peasantry, Bill Gates ought to be considered poor.

    I absolutely agree with the sentiment of your observation, but the problem is that people like Bill Gates don’t take the same view, and their object in life – by hook or crook – is to accumulate control over all the capital and human resources that everyone else needs to live.

    The idea of “capitalism” might be intellectually associated with healthy concepts like “free markets”, but unfortunately in the real world, when we let “capitalism” loose and combine it with “human nature”, we eventually but inevitably arrive at a situation where and a tiny and shrinking minority control the majority for the minority’s benefit.

    That’s patently the case in the USA already, and is increasingly so in many other Western nations. Globalists desire to extend this tyranny over the entire planet.

    These results are not the “capitalism” taught in school economics or university courses. These are “the joys of Capitalism”.

    “Agricultural Policy” beginning in the Roosevelt years turned much of this formerly productive land into the industrial farms we now have…

    Industrial farms are large-scale enterprises mostly governed by corporations, which are abstractions given superior rights to human beings under corporate law. Commercial corporations exist solely to suck money, and for no other reason.

    All corporations have some sort of business model to facilitate creation of goods or services to supply markets in exchange for juicy profits. However, being sentient avatars for their hidden human masters, and driven with the single-minded hunger for revenue, corporate entities can and do try whatever tricks, shenanigans or shortcuts they can get away with to increase their profits, and they do so with not a trace of remorse.

    So it is that agricultural land is spiked with chemicals and pumped for maximum output, eventually poisoning and depleting what was once highly productive farmland. So too are the genetics of plants and animals tampered with to increase outputs with less inputs, and to monopolize business to one or another mega-corporation (“Terminator seeds” and “Roundup Ready” plants come to mind). Never mind the catastrophic environmental effects (just ask the bees what they think about it) and the nutritionally deficient and outright toxic “frankenfoods” being shipped to markets that once enjoyed abundant, wholesome and healthy produce.

    And that’s just food production.

    The same principles apply across the board – all the way up and across every value chain.

    As for the relative merits of “capitalism” and “socialism”, in the context of “free markets” versus “central planning”, I don’t accept that the problems we face, or possible solutions (for the common folk – our elite class is no doubt quite pleased with the way things are going) are determined by such a binary choice.

    For example, currently China arguably operates politically as a communist dictatorship, guided by socialist ideology, but at a and regional and local level permits the economic efficiency of free markets to operate. Appropriate systems at the proper level, subject to regulation and oversight by the central government, and guided by feedback from the common folk. Whatever one’s indoctrination and views on communist China, they have had unprecedented success in raising their population from poverty to prosperity over the last 50 years.

    Given the problems inherent in human nature, IMO the perfect model to manage a nation for the benefit of the general population is a dictator.

    Just make sure you get a good one.

  31. alan2102 says:

    Obesity is a symptom of poor nutrition. Overfed, undernourished.

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