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Another 832 people died from coronavirus in Italy today. The country’s fatalities have passed 10,000. Some believe this number is a massive undercount and the number of deaths could be as high as 50,000.

But an equally important story is how the liberal powers, particularly the European Union and NATO, have reacted to Italy’s desperate cries for help.

Israel, a dangerous rogue nation Italian conservatives have been trying to sell as an “alliance” worth deepening, has mobilized to provide emergency support to the devastated city of Milan. The catch? The “solidarity” is only for Jews.

As for NATO ally Turkey, the country’s firms have announced that they have the ability to produce 50 million face masks in a week, which are in chronic short supply in Italy’s hardest hit regions. Yet, in what can only be described as an act of subhumanity, the Turkish government went out of its way to maliciously confiscate 200,000 masks purchased by Italy in early March, with no refund.

The various “human rights” NGOs that serve as subversive tentacles for US/Brussels soft power are also working hard, but again, Italians are an afterthought. Dozens of plutocrat-funded “Italian” organizations are calling for the evacuation of illegal immigrants from “hotspots,” and for them to be released from detention to be spread out across the country. Meanwhile, ordinary Italians in the north and center of the country are prohibited from leaving without special permission – who speaks for them?

France and Germany, two of the European Union’s largest manufacturers, have heavily restricted the export of medical supplies. The economic liberalization EU countries must endure to join the bloc has destroyed Italian economic independence due to Germany and France swamping neighboring markets with exports. Lesson learned. 67% of Italians now believe membership in the European Union is useless.

Reconfiguring the Global Order

On the other hand, China has been exemplary in aiding Italy and Europe as a whole. The white noise being produced by angry Washington neo-liberals and neo-conservatives, who claim China and Russia are using humanitarian aid as propaganda (as opposed to what?), is falling on deaf ears.

While Donald Trump bickers with selfish US capitalists to produce life-saving ventilators, Chinese planners for the last week have been busy ratcheting up production to meet the sudden explosion in demand in Italy and beyond. Chinese ventilator factories are now working 24 hours and 7 days a week in hopes of meeting superhuman manufacturing goals, even though this carries the risk of creating another outbreak.

This is only one piece of a bigger relief effort. Aside from tons of supplies, China has also sent Italy its most heroic doctors, many who originally helped contain the virus during the initial outbreak in Wuhan. The Chinese have demonstrated deep respect for Roman civilization, marking every humanitarian aid crate with a quote by Seneca: “We are waves of the same sea, leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden.” Various other countries targeted by Washington and its pawns in Brussels for rejecting some or all liberal tenets – Russia, Venezuela, Cuba – have also been generous with Italy, despite being strangled by sanctions themselves.

NATO, Germany and the US have grown defensive and reacted to these gestures by mustering some minor procrastinated support, but no matter what they do next, it’s doubtful they will be able to win back an Italian public growing more self-aware and patriotic beneath the mountains of coffins.

The real rulers of America, like the Jew George Soros, have been working tirelessly to prevent Europe from pursuing its own interests and strengthening relations with China, according to the US government run propaganda outlet Voice of America. While Chinese billionaire turned school teacher Jack Ma has been using his foundation to provide life-or-death coronavirus aid to Europe and Asia, Soros has been using his personal fortune to use the crisis as an opportunity to attack the traditional family. What does Soros have to offer the world other than corrosion of all that is virtuous and good?

When all is said and done, Italy, Serbia, Wisegrad group and others thrown under the bus by the liberal-globalist order should reconsider their geopolitical alliances. To join the “community” of liberal plutocracy, a nation must sacrifice its sovereignty, acquiesce to Jews, accept mass race-replacement and attack its own proud history, while getting nothing in return. Is it worth it?

(Republished from National Justice by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. cortesar says:

    50k jeez you are not saying perhaps 100k or 1M ot 21M like in China you know these phone number missing
    It is not surprise that every single leftist of the dissident right (so to speak) has sided with leftoids in spreading the panic
    Questions for you:
    1- Do you really care for Italy?
    2- Have you ever been to Italy?
    3- How many governments Italy had in first 50 years after WW2?
    4- What was the ideology/political leaning of these governments for the most part?
    5- How long you have to wait ( average) in the line to buy for the train ticket in Rome
    central train station
    a-15 min
    b- 30 Min
    c- 1 hour
    d-2 hours

  2. So very true; thank you Eric. ItalExit would be most welcome, as would an Italian alliance with China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela.

  3. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:

    On the other hand, China has been exemplary in aiding Italy and Europe as a whole.

    Unbelievable. This site is literally posting CCP propaganda now.

    Doesn’t matter. The hatred the world feels towards China is (rightly) growing day by day, and the CCP and its shills will have little success countering it with their propaganda.

  4. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    Great post. Only Russia/China have handled the recent pandemic well but cucks call them “authoritarian” states. What that really means is regular people live well enjoying security, safety, health, and prosperity. This is all a continuation of the Cold War make no mistake about it. We’re in Cold War 2.0 now. People will have to choose their side.

    https://eradica.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/old-and-new-gods/

  5. cortesar says:
    @Theophrastus

    An alliance with Cuba and Venezuela, lol
    That will save Italy, no doubt
    If only Chavez and Fidel were alive, each could give one their famous 5+ hours ant-imperialist speeches
    Just imagine the happiness and relief of locked Italians
    That would certainly be worth at least 500k masks

    • Agree: Malla, Hibernian
  6. “Italexit would be most welcome”

    Granted anything’s better than nothing, but this is just reversing cause and effect.

    One can wish all day long for Frexit, Italexit, Hispexit, Nederexit, Polskxit, Eirexit, and on and on.

    But unless and until Europe gets Jexit and Muslexit and Afrexit and Yankxit from European lands, it’s really all just changing the sign on the storefront.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Priss Factor
  7. UK says:

    Italians should primarily be upset ( and never forget) because some Jewish charity from Israel sent some aid to Italian Jews and not to all Italians?

    You sound nutty.

    I don’t think anyone even slightly normal expects a charity from some small country from the Middle East to save Italy. That would be utterly bizarre. The Turkey thing sounds horrible but I don’t trust your characterisation as you blew up your credibility on a crazy opening.

  8. Miro23 says:

    Lesson learned. 67% of Italians now believe membership in the European Union is useless.

    They’re right there. It could have been a great project for joint European social and economic development , but in reality it became a vehicle for extending Zio-Glob power (same as the US).

    Also, passing responsibility to someone else (in this case Brussels) and expecting them to fix your problems never works.

    • Agree: Druid
  9. @cortesar

    Good comment. Not one single word, phrase or sentence has ANY relevance to the situation at hand in Italy — although i’m sure that via somekind of contorted, spaghetti like twisted reasoning you could find a scintilla of “relevance”.

    • Agree: ivan, Realist
  10. @Theophrastus

    “Italexit” would be, indeed, welcome.
    Unfortunately there are a number of gigantic problems.
    Exiting the Euro: as with Greece a few years ago the Euro is a titanic issue to deal with.
    Local Italian Elites are locked into the EU — ie they know who fills their ricebowls.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @SteveK9
    , @Popeye
    , @Bill Daly
  11. Miro23 says:

    When all is said and done, Italy, Serbia, Wisegrad group and others thrown under the bus by the liberal-globalist order should reconsider their geopolitical alliances. To join the “community” of liberal plutocracy, a nation must sacrifice its sovereignty, acquiesce to Jews, accept mass race-replacement and attack its own proud history, while getting nothing in return. Is it worth it?

    Agree with this 100%. The post WW2 Anglo-American global system had some merit – but after being hijacked by liberal-globalists in the 1980’s (and their freaky counter-cultural leftist friends) it should have been directly abandoned.

    A complication is the Zio-Glob cloaking itself within the shell of old Anglo-America. The venerable old institutions, appear to remain while in fact they have been re-purposed. Same in the UK- for example the BBC.

  12. FvS says:

    It was Chinese negligence and their ridiculous “traditional medicine” demands that created the conditions for the emergence of the virus in the first place. They should be helping.
    https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(20)30360-2
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
    https://www.pangolinreports.com/china/
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-scientists-destroyed-proof-of-virus-in-december-rz055qjnj

    • Agree: James Stark, ivan, SBaker
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @SBaker
  13. Alfred says:

    Another 832 people died from coronavirus in Italy today

    Starting an article with such an obvious falsehood is beyond the pale. People who die WITH the virus are not always killed BY the virus. Capisci?

    Also, the more you test people, the more people seem to be infected – but the proportion remains unchanged. For all we know, it may have no connection to the deaths of even these 12%. There are plenty of other infections and coronaviruses about.

    Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed

    As regards Iran, let me explain why their statistics of “coronavirus” deaths are so out of line.

    In Islam, believers are supposed to leave this world as they arrived – naked. After death, the body is washed, wrapped in a plain cloth and buried. No cremations!

    Religious leaders have been compelled to make a dispensation due to this highly-virulent infection. Bodies of “victims” of coronavirus can be buried without being washed. Obviously, doctors are keen to prevent non-medically trained people from handling the body. That means that doctors put the cause of death as “coronavirus” without any proof whatsoever that this was the cause of death. Anyone with breathing difficulties near the end is assumed to be infected.

  14. Quit the EU, join the SCO. First European country to do that will get a nice economic boost to itself!

  15. cranc says:

    Some believe this number is a massive undercount and the number of deaths could be as high as 50,000.

    ‘Some people’ is one person though isn’t it? And this one person has taken selective very localised figures from news media reports as somehow reliable then exptrapolated out to the whole country. Then Karlin on Unz writes an article as if Dellanna is really ‘on to something’ and Striker quotes Karlin’s article.
    This is deeply irresponsible reporting. Why not cite the many more, and much more credible opinions alongside Dellanna who completely disagree with him? They rely on carefully collected and verified data, not on speculation.
    ‘Following on from our previous list, here are ten more expert voices, drowned out or disregarded by the mainstream narrative, offering their take on the coronavirus outbreak.’
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

    …not just drowned out by the mainstream narrative it would seem.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Joey Pastrami
  16. Chinaman says:

    As a Chinaman, most of what I appreciate about western civilisation is of Italian origin (or Greek) . Cars, art, furnitures, food, clothes and architecture. I have many Italian friends and they are a warm and friendly people. I can understand and relate to them because they are family and relationship oriented. They think like Chinese in many ways. This commonality and association is of no surprise given we are the oldest cultures in the world.

    I have personally sent medical supplies, masks, disinfectant to my Italian friends and I shall offer my hand to my UNZ buddies here too even the white nationalists who yearn for my demise and China’s fall. Let me know if anyone desperately need help.

    America needs help.

  17. Tor597 says:

    I can’t believe in the midst of America collapsing totally, our elites still are trying to overthrow the governments of Iran and Venezuela.

    You would think they would give it a rest till this thing is over.

  18. 22pp22 says:

    I know my government hates me. The West is now a suicide cult.

    But China is acting out of self interest, not compassion.

    This worshipping of Xi Jingping as our saviour is silly.

  19. Pft says:

    How do we know they are not just calling all pneumonia deaths COVID-19 in expectation of economic assistance (economy in dire straights before COVID). A country Italys size would have 10,000 deaths from pneumonia in a normal flu season, and 1500 deaths per day from all causes.

    • Replies: @James Stark
  20. Great article. China has shown itself to be competent while US “elites” and their allies are fuddling around more worried about the big line than their own citizens. It seems like every year there’s an event that undermines the legitimacy of the neoliberal order and this pandemic is a real changing of the guard moment.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  21. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    67% of Italians now believe membership in the European Union is useless.

    It’s not what they want but what they’ll get. They’ll never be allowed to leave. There’s nothing democratic about it nor do the ruling classes care what the masses want or even what’s good for the majority. This Soros character is rather ubiquitous, isn’t he? He seems to have had his finger in a lot of pies but perhaps he’s just a cover for the US deep state.

    • Replies: @James Stark
    , @Omegabooks
  22. GeeBee says:
    @cortesar

    I shall at least answer your facile questions.

    1. Yes, passionately. I am English but Italy is my favourite country on earth.
    2. I have spent a total of several years of my life there, and indeed we have a nice cottage in the Ligurian Alps, where we spend several months each year. But for the present crisis, my half-Italian wife and I had planned to go next week.
    3. Many largely thanks to the plague of ‘democracy’, imposed by the victors of the criminal and unnecessary undertaking (which they started) which we know as WWII. Prior to that terrible, American-led example of ‘regime change’, however, Benito Mussolini gave them a strong government that worked for the benefit of the people – the diametrically opposite system to our odious ‘Liberal Democracy’.
    4. All Western governments post-war are in essence the same: they cleave to the Neo-Liberal orthodoxy imposed by the USA. Your ‘choice’ as a voter at the various elections is thus between Agenda A in a blue rosette or Agenda A in a red rosette.
    5. My experiences of buying train tickets at Termini (the main station at Rome) is fairly limited, as our property in Italy is in Liguria. However, when I last travelled by train in Rome (five years ago) I bought my tickets at the local tobacconists shop in Castel Gandolfo just outside Rome (where I was staying with my wife’s cousin who has a house), as is normal practice when buying train tickets anywhere in Italy. Termini is an efficient, modern station, spoiled only by the mendicants who surround it (immigrants mostly).

    As I was typing this, my wife called to me to say one of our great friends in Liguria was on Facebook asking if I had a telephone number for another of our friends, so that he might buy some potatoes from him, and thus avoid going to Ventimiglia shopping. Community spirit is normal there, and far exceeds that to be found in the UK.

    • Agree: Dumbo, Catdomnj
  23. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    If a direct reaction to all that has gone down during this pandemic is the dissolution of NATO and the EU perhaps all these people may not have died in vain. It would save a lot of money, a lot of frayed nerves, a lot of resentment against absurd destructive American foreign policy and perhaps a lot of lives. Hell, Trump used to be FOR these things before he was hounded relentlessly by the Dems, the spooks, the media and the Deep State all of which finally co-opted him into acting like a compliant warmongering neo-con. The world has noticed that the exceptional country is now kicking target countries in the teeth with even more ferocity now that they are prostrate with the corona virus. The thugs in Washington are acting more than ever like war criminals than the self-styled saviours of the world they fancy themselves.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  24. We are waves of the same sea, leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden.

    At first glance, these are the empty words of a pandering nationalistic country projecting its own 3,000 year old tradition of blood-and-soil values onto the Italian people, but what if it’s more? In the next decade, could China, in becoming the next global power, effectively challenge the contradictory anti-nationalist ideals of the current Zionist regime, and restore authentic nationhood back to all Western nations?

    A man can hope. Western nationalists have long wished for nationalism, understood in the proper sense as blood and soil, to arise from within, through the various populist movements that always seem to be co-opted before they can ever make substantial change; but maybe it is more realistic to expect it to arise from without, through tactical alliances, positive pressure, or even, ironically, global catastrophe, from without. This dovetails with Striker’s previous article condemning the Republican party (well worth a read: https://www.unz.com/estriker/either-we-destroy-the-republican-party-or-it-will-destroy-us/). The veil has been lifted. Nationalists are looking for other solutions.

    Why would the Chinese help us? Because apart from the small minority of Western nationalists themselves, they also appear to be the most in love with our tradition. (They also seem to be most in love with *us*–if you have ever travelled to China as a young normal-looking white guy, you know what I mean.) The trope about the Chinese is that they are the most racist, but that doesn’t mean they are hateful towards us. Chinese tourism, anyone? How about the “fake” cities of Paris and London erected in Chinese suburbs? What I’m trying to coax out of all of this is that those two devotions are not unrelated, since their objects both fall under the same genus of human tradition. Just as our love of our tradition, if you aren’t a raging bigot, directly translates into an appreciation for the traditions of others (exceptions like Judaism excepted), the Chinese love of their own tradition directly translates to a appreciation for ours. And that appreciation runs deep, since it is the sole reason for their success.

    And unlike the Zionists and liberal narcissists that control our airwaves, they believe that race is intimately tied into the preservation of this tradition. As many Chinese tourists will affirm, Paris without Parisians isn’t Paris at all.

  25. Wait, is this piece about Coronavirus and Italy or Jews? I’m confused. You and Philip Giraldi have me questioning whether UNZ Review has any value as a source of information or is just conspiracy entertainment and “opinion.”

    Kidding. It isn’t a question at this point. Add Jews to the 1995 movie ‘Outbreak’ and you’ve got real life 2020 on UNZ. Yeah, I know. Hollywood.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  26. Tom Welsh says:
    @cortesar

    Because, as we all know, Mussolini made the trains run on time.

  27. He who sacrifices his tradition cuts out his own heart and feeds it to dogs.

  28. @anon

    Sounds like you’ve been watching too much American Pravda.

    Imagine believing Striker’s well-sourced article is Chinese propaganda, but the ephemeral source of a vague and putatively growing hatred of China being alluded to above isn’t itself (American) propaganda.

    Why don’t you try to state some specifics, troll?

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
  29. padre says:
    @anon

    Some human you are, just looking around for someone to hate!And what world are you referring to?Not Africa, South America,Asia, Russia?Stay in your little garden you call world!

  30. @Tor597

    Those who sell their soul have nothing to live for but worldly ambition.

  31. Things are getting real, and when things get real pie in the sky promises to facilitate the belief in a liberal utopia, a utopia in which it is becoming increasingly apparent is actually dystopic and terrible and rapey and softly genocidal, become harder and harder to indoctrinate into people. As the months drag on this effect should magnify. Things only exist they way they are now because a complex social engineering system maintains them. As that system erodes, civilizations will revert increasingly back to sanity.

  32. @anonymous

    If cuck island was able to manage to leave, any nation can. And obviously Soros isn’t the only financier behind the NWO people. One man couldn’t do all this damage, no matter how rich. He’s just the most well known one.

  33. @UK

    You sound nutty.

    Spoken like a truly conditioned puppet of the Zionist regime. Israeli actions must never be criticized!

    How very Christian of Israel it is to only give aid to Jews, am I right? Truly they are Our Greatest Ally (TM).

    They act as if Italy isn’t already helping Jews equally to the native Italians themselves, and that the Jewish are facing disproportionate suffering or something. From the JP article:

    “We naturally feel solidarity with all Italians, but we are particularly touched by the situation of the Jewish communities, to whom we wish to extend a helping hand in this time of crisis”

    The operative word here is “but”, which doesn’t completely dismiss the preceding statement, but reveals its hollowness. And how ironic it is that the article links “Jewish communities” to another JP article saying that Jewish communities are doing just fine under quarantine, and that “[to] the best of their knowledge, nobody in the community has been infected”.

    If we are to expect Israel to be a Western liberal democratic nation, this ethnocentric behavior is completely unjustified. We would not be angry with this duplicity if native Italians themselves were allowed to support each other in this way as well, but they aren’t, because while Jews get to be hypocrites, us Christians, and particularly white Christians, must toe the liberal democratic line.

    • Thanks: Z-man
    • Replies: @UK
  34. @Pft

    Explain how a major disruption in the status quo helps the elites. A healthy cynicism is a great thing to have but it should be based on logic, so provide a potential motive if you think this is fake. How would this benefit them? All I’ve seen from just the flu bros are claims with spurious reasoning backing them, or at best circumstantial evidence, such as you have proffered here. Give me a potential motive for a con of this magnitude, because it would be a hell of a thing to set up.

  35. @Alfred

    And 100% of people die of natural causes, despite the coronavirus. Even though pre-existing conditions abound within the statistics, coronavirus is still the main *cause* of death.

  36. Germany has been taking patients with corona from Italy and from France.

    • Replies: @Catiline
  37. Malla says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    According to the EU, an African or Iraqi immigrant to an European country getting a local passport (as if paper can take the place of blood and ancestry) is “European” but a Russian or a Belarussian is not European. How idiotic is that!!!

    • Agree: tomo, Hibernian
    • Replies: @Lurker
  38. @22pp22

    Are you trying to get some of the posters here laid off?;)

  39. Anonymous[860] • Disclaimer says:

    mr. author,
    When it is France and Germany, it is heavy restriction on export medical supplies. When it is Turkey you call it as act of subhumanity. SICK HEAD.. I tell you what is called subhumanity, it is what your nation did to Iraqi people.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  40. Hempus says:

    The key word of this article is Plutocracy.

    Why we use Pluto for this kind of power grab? Any relation to the planet Pluto?
    What almost all observers oversee is that in January 2020 was an conjunction of Pluto and Saturn!

    This conjunction happens in a cycle of 38-40 years.
    The last conjunction was in 1982
    1982 the Aids hysteria breaked out and had an increadible inpact on our way of life. WAR on AIDS started.

    2001 was the opposition year of Pluto and Saturn…World trade center 9.11. and the patriot act, WAR on TERROR

    2020 martial law, shootdown of economy, surveilance police states. A media boosted hysteria about an invisible “new” deadly virus. Global rising torpidity by political correctness.
    Correct toward who?
    WAR on SARS COVID-2

    Isnt it funny that one of the finest scientist, a Nobel lauderate Kary Mullis who got the prize for the invention of the PCR (polymerase chain reaction) is listed now on wikipedia as “AIDS denier!
    Well, guess that must be something like a holocaust denier?

    What happened 1947 when Pluto and Saturn moved into full conjunction in early August?
    The UN partition plan for Palestine!

    “Summary of AG-057 United Nations Special Committee onPalestine (UNSCOP) (1947)TitleUnited Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) (1947)Active Dates1917-1949Administrative HistoryThe United Nations Special Committee on Palestine’s (UNSCOP) task was to investigate and report on the future of Palestine after the termination of the British Mandate. The Committee operated from June-August, 1947.”

    And now it becomes really interesting if we look to the previous Pluto-Saturn conjunction in May 1915

    Italy drops Triple Alliance with Austria-Hungary & Germany on may 5th

    When World War I broke out in the summer of 1914, Italy declared itself neutral in the conflict, despite its membership in the so-called Triple Alliance alongside Germany and Austria-Hungary since 1882. Over the course of the months that followed, Italy and its leaders weighed their options; wooed by both sides, they carefully considered how to gain the greatest benefit from participation in the war. The decision to join the fray on the side of the Allies was based largely on the assurances Italy received in the Treaty of London, signed in April 1915. By its terms, Italy would receive the fulfillment of its national dream: control over territory on its border with Austria-Hungary stretching from Trentino through the South Tyrol to Trieste. In addition, the Allies promised the Italians parts of Dalmatia and numerous islands along Austria-Hungary’s Adriatic coast; the Albanian port city of Vlore (Italian: Valona) and a central protectorate in Albania; and territory from the Ottoman Empire.

    On May 23, 1915, Italy declared war on Austria-Hungary.

  41. Herald says:
    @cortesar

    The irrelevance of your post is exceeded only by its banality, now that must have taken quite a bit of effort, well done.

    • Replies: @ivan
  42. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    If a direct reaction to all that has gone down during this pandemic is the dissolution of NATO and the EU perhaps all these people may not have died in vain. It would save a lot of money, a lot of frayed nerves, a lot of resentment against absurd destructive American foreign policy and perhaps a lot of lives.

    The Zio-Globalists are active people, and have a firm clamp on all the Western nodes of power – politics, the media, finance, judiciary etc. The Coronavirus panic isn’t going to change that.

    Since everything here (Spain) is locked down, I’ve been taking the time to read Brian Lapping’s excellent book “End of Empire” which details the British exit from Empire taking each country in turn (India, Palestine, Malaya, Iran, Egypt, Aden, Cyprus, Gold Coast, Kenya, Rhodesia).

    They were all different, but a common thread saw colonies that had been profitable becoming impossible financial burdens. Also, in the face of organized ethnic nationalist violence, the British couldn’t maintain security (security forces being shot, for example in India, Palestine, Aden, Cyprus).

    This suggests that the international Zio-Glob Empire could well go the same way, with the financial side becoming untenable. Also at some point they’ll have to use security forces (on a larger scale) against the public which seems to be the endgame.

  43. Ber says:
    @Chinaman

    Good of you to offer help.

    Very moving thoughts from China “We are waves of the same sea, leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden.” Perhaps this is the seed needed for a coming better world.

    • Thanks: Chinaman
  44. Z-man says:
    @animalogic

    It could be done. Even if you include Spain it would be only three large countries left in the Euro, G, F & S. The Italians could do it with still close ties to the rump EU. They have to keep their close ties to UK and US but also get close to Russia. China owes Italy reperations so that would be good for the New Lira. Ah one can dream,.. but you never know it could be a reality.

  45. Dumbo says:

    Great post. Only Russia/China have handled the recent pandemic well but cucks call them “authoritarian” states.

    Western countries are currently looking far more authoritarian (but also far more incompetent) than Russia or China. But I don’t have much sympathy for China since this virus is mostly their fault.

    Exiting the Euro: as with Greece a few years ago the Euro is a titanic issue to deal with.
    Local Italian Elites are locked into the EU — ie they know who fills their ricebowls.

    Maybe with the post-coronavirus recession it won’t make much difference, if there was a moment to abandon the sinking EU boat, it would be now.

    But unless and until Europe gets Jexit and Muslexit and Afrexit and Yankxit from European lands, it’s really all just changing the sign on the storefront.

    But what about Chexit? Lots of Chinese in Europe, too. This won’t be reduced with an increase in Chinese influence.

    According to the EU, an African or Iraqi immigrant to an European country getting a local passport (as if paper can take the place of blood and ancestry) is “European” but a Russian or a Belarussian is not European. How idiotic is that!!!

    Yep. However, normal Europeans are not so easily fooled. Even the most liberal ones know deep down than an African or an Arab is not really “European”. Jews are a more difficult issue, though. They are, and are not.

  46. @22pp22

    This worshipping of Xi Jingping as our saviour is silly.

    Why do you characterize praise towards China as worship of Xi Jingping? Do you generally lack nuance, or are you that much of a hate-monger? Are we allowed to praise China at the expense of our own corrupt institutions?

    Your characterization that China is *only* acting out of self-interest is not a display of cleverness, but misanthropy. The Chinese love our culture, especially our Italian and French cultures. There is a “fake” Paris in Tianducheng, China, for God’s sake. Chinese tourists flood our countries, behaving themselves and throwing money at our local food and entertainment industries. They can simultaneously act out of self-interest to gain soft power and also have empathy for Italians. Both things can be true.

    Your both-sides-are-wrong approach to things only maintains the status quo.

  47. Z-man says:
    @GeeBee

    GeeBee, like I said before Italy can do a Brexit. It would be harder for them but it could be done. They would have to keep and deepen their relations with the ‘Anglos’ and be friends with Russia and China after China pays reparations. (Smile)

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  48. ivan says:
    @cortesar

    You just can’t make this up. Italy like the other Europeans have not tried to fudge the figures but they are supposed to be underreporting deaths by 40,000. Whereas the Chicoms who hid the whole outbreak from November December onwards, reported 3,000 deaths and now pretend that they are the saviours of the world are the ‘true’ humanitarians. Unz should publish articles that are at least minimally credible if he doesn’t want fellows like Giraldi , Sailer and Karlin to be tarnished by the same brush. We can see what the hell is happening around us

    • Agree: SBaker
  49. ivan says:
    @Herald

    Ill say you are a bloody fool.

    • Disagree: Herald
    • Replies: @Herald
  50. @Chief Ambassador to the Clockwork Elves

    Chinese know that their civilisation is nothing compared to ours, they love our people because we are better in almost every single way. It is only our misfortune to have a parasitical group of people who happened to look like us, subverting our nations.

    Almost all countries worship White people, the Chinese just so it differently.

    Real nationalism is not just racial homogenity and tradition, but economic freedom. The National Socialists are today known for their “racist” ideology, but what really pissed of the money masters and democracy makers was that Germany extricated itself from the usurious financial system that turns people into debt slaves.

    Do you think China will help us bring back all the industries and make our countries self-reliant? Or will they simply push more of their exports on us leading to capital drain?

    Some Chinese like to be deceptive and talk about “solidarity” with Whites, but the reality is that they still have tens of millions of their ethnics in our countries. When Australia wanted to stop all incoming flights from China during the initial weeks of the outbreak when China was the epicentre, China responses by calling it a “racist” idea. Is that a country that values Western traditions, peoples and culture?

    Western culture is quite clearly the best in the world as we can see the fruits it has given us, Chinese culture meanwhile is quite hollow and superficial.

    There is even a Wikipedia page dedicated to the suffering of chinks during this crisis they have caused, I wonder if the Chinese would care of their people were being racist against foreigners?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_xenophobia_and_racism_related_to_the_2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic

    To sum it up, the Chinese wish for nothing but to see Western civilisation subservient to them because we made them out bitches during the height of the British Empire, although not occupied, they were for all intents and purposes an economic colony of the British, and they want revenge.

    They will likely exploit the diversity crisis in the West for their own gains, on one hand they will virtue signal about solidarity with Whites and how much they value our culture, on the other they will flood is with Chinese to steal our research secrets and ingrain themselves into our society.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  51. anon[261] • Disclaimer says:

    Striker wrote:

    “Soros has been using his personal fortune to use the crisis as an opportunity to attack the traditional family. “

    which linked to ACLJ — American Center for Law and Justice, the standard-bearer of the religious right, founded under auspices of Pat Robertson’s Liberty University and headed by Christianized Jew Jay Sekulow and his son, Jordan. The pair and ACLJ have functioned at top levels of Republican presidents or candidates since its founding in the George Bush administration, and served as Trump’s lawyers over the course of the impeachment fiascos.

    Jordan Sekulow wrote the ACLJ article
    https://aclj.org/radical-left/radical-left-soros-funded-organization-uses-the-coronavirus-to-justify-call-to-abolish-the-family
    attacking the “Soros funded organization’s call to abolish the family.” Just under half-way into Sekulow’s article, this statement appears:

    It also bears mentioning that openDemocracy patron George Soros contributed financial support to the anti-Semitic Carter Center which we told you contributed resources to known terrorist group Hamas.

    What does that have to do with the focus of the essay, a call to abolish families?

    Or is protection of Israel a major purpose of ACLJ?

  52. Alfred says:
    @Chinaman

    Let me know if anyone desperately need help

    I am in Kiev, Ukraine. The local orphanages are in a bad shape. The city is shut down. Those who solicit donations have found that donors no longer have incomes. This might go on for months.

    If you know of someone who wants to help, I will pass it on. Please don’t reply here as I don’t want people to know your response. The email address I use for junk is AlfredLondon at hotmail dot com. If you reply there, I will give you my normal email and contact details.

    Thanks in any case. 🙂

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  53. On Italian ‘coronavirus deaths’:

    These are deaths WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus [i.e., not causal]

    The Italian example has shown that 99% of test-positive deaths had one or more pre-existing conditions, average age about 81 years

    Renowned Italian virologist Giulio Tarro argues that the mortality rate of Covid19 is below 1% even in Italy and is therefore comparable to influenza.

    From Peter Hitchens:

    There is a big difference between Covid-19 causing death, and Covid-19 being found in someone who died of other ailments.

    Two-thirds of people who die from coronavirus in the next nine months would most likely have died this year from other causes.

    The WHO estimates that between 290,000 and 650,000 respiratory deaths globally each year are associated with seasonal influenza.

    From distinguished scientists at Oxford University, led by Sunetra Gupta, Professor of theoretical epidemiology:

    The study suggests that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment. It seems unlikely that Oxford University would have bungled their work.

    Professor Neil Ferguson was one of those largely responsible for the original panic that the UK faced half a million deaths from the coronavirus.

    He has twice revised his terrifying prophecy, first to fewer than 20,000 and then on Friday to 5,700.

  54. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Yet, in what can only be described as an act of subhumanity, the Turkish government went out of its way to maliciously confiscate 200,000 masks purchased by Italy in early March, with no refund.

    That shows that Erdogan, who is preening around like he’s the ME savior of Muslims, is just another Jew pet.
    Add in the war crimes he’s committing in Syria and it’s a certainty the ‘Sultan’ is Kosher certified.

    • Agree: annamaria, Alfred
  55. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chief Ambassador to the Clockwork Elves

    Unless and until you know yourself, and are secure in you own identity and worth, you cannot truly love and appreciate another.

    The Chinese know this well. It is precisely because of that deep self-knowledge that ordinary people in China can be genuinely curious about the cultures and achievements of far-off cultures.

    Their tourists flock to see Aztec and Mayan cities, Egyptian pyramids, Russia Orthodox and Western European cathedrals, even American monuments like Mount Rushmore, Ethiopian ruins and natural shrines of the Aborigines (ex. Uluru). They express their admiration, while refraining from too much criticism. For every loud, boorish Chinese tourist, many more simply want to learn about the rest of the world.

    That’s real love, real appreciation.

    If on the other hand you crave an “enlightenment” that you see as only available from ANOTHER culture, and give serious thought to that culture’s attempt to SHAME and browbeat you into THEIR vision for you, you DO NOT LOVE that culture.

    You are psychologically, spiritually DEPENDENT on them. That dependence will destroy you (us?).

  56. @Anonymous

    “I tell you what is called subhumanity, it is what your nation did to Iraqi people.“

    Truth. Simple and strikes right to the core.

    • Agree: Ber
  57. BlackFlag says:
    @UK

    Well, most Westerners are still not aware that many Jew do not identify with the nation in which they live. They view themselves as a separate people. They are also unaware that the Jewish community cooperates internationally.

    Once aware of this, it’s natural to question the wisdom of handing over the nation’s positions of influence. It’s also helpful when judging the credibility of the speaker or writer.

    So yes it is very important.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @ThreeCranes
  58. anastasia says:

    The Italian government scrutinized the cases of the first 100 deaths which the originally said died from corona virus, and said that they can only say two died from corona virus. They have not had a chance yet to study the rest, but they intend to.

    An anonymous doctor in NYC said that his patient who died of kidney failure was told to put his patient down from corona virus, ostensibly because of positive testing. The doctor and a nurse, both of whom said they were concerned about giving out their names for publication, said that they have been instructed by the CDC to “err on the side of caution” and put questionable cases down as corona victims.

    In the meantime, we have a governor who is not distributing ventilators to NYC hospitals, despite what the media is telling us on television about the number of corona victims there. https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/cuomo-doth-protest-too-much/

    In addition, we have all these people who test positive, who don’t have symptoms, and never got symptoms after quarantine, and some of whom even have wives or husbands who never caught this easily transmitted from their diseased spouses, who are also being marked down as “infected”.

    Lastly, we have recovered corona patients in Wuhan, who are now testing positive again.

    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @Alfred
  59. @22pp22

    But China is acting out of self interest, not compassion.

    And if China had taken Brazil’s or the former nation known as the USA’s approach and ignored the calls for help, then you would be calling them heartless?

    I’m not a China fan, but what they’re doing to help other nations is commendable, while the ‘Greatest Nation on Earth,’ is figuring out ways to loot the national treasury to benefit the 1% while Tubby the Grifter stumbles around like he’s lost, unless he barks out that there will be NO oversight of that slush fund given out.
    Either because Trump is a cold-hearted prick or he doesn’t want the marks to see how much loot his sleazy son-in-law will be able to carry off.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  60. Who do we Axis have to hate, forever, Eric. Who?

    And who should do the same with his “greatest generation”`?.

  61. @Theophrastus

    “Globalist” must become a dirty word, to Americans, English, Germans and French as well as to Italians.

    Globalism was never more than a ploy for a country’s “elites” to make a quick buck by thrusting their countrymen into peonage, e.g. Romney, Ryan, Biden, the Bushes, Blair…

    • Agree: Spanky
    • Replies: @Trinity
  62. Realist says:

    Only a dickhead would write something like this.

    • Replies: @Realist
  63. annamaria says:
    @anon

    “The hatred the world feels towards China is (rightly) growing day by day…”

    — You obfuscate the rightly growing disrespect (irritation, annoyance, disgust) with the zionized approach to humanity as exemplified by US sanctions and warmongering against covid-stricken Iran and by this ‘natural’ obscenity: https://archive.fo/VRyrR

    As Italy struggles to come to terms with the coronavirus pandemic sweeping the country, The Jewish Agency for Israel and Keren Hayesod have joined forces to offer Italian Jewish communities support, assistance and to voice solidarity with those affected.

    The “most victimized” are not even aware of their amorality.

    You need to reread this:

    The Chinese have demonstrated a deep respect for Roman civilization, marking every humanitarian aid crate with a quote by Seneca: “We are waves of the same sea, leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden.”

    Compare the above to certain Ronald S. Lauder, a President of the World Jewish Congress, peddling the zionized FBI’s report that “neo-Nazis and white nationalists are looking to infect Jews and policemen with the novel coronavirus.” https://www.jpost.com/International/FBI-Neo-Nazi-groups-encouraging-spread-coronavirus-to-police-and-Jews-622006

    This Ronald S. Lauder, a member of the dirty Mega Group Mafia of Jewish dealers and benefactor of Epstein: http://thealtworld.com/whitney_webb/mega-group-maxwells-and-mossad-the-spy-story-at-the-heart-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal

    By virtue of the role of many Mega Group members as major political donors in both the U.S. and Israel, several of its most notable members have close ties to the governments of both countries as well as their intelligence communities. … many also connect to the organized crime network…

    Perhaps the best illustration of how the connections between many of these players often meld together can be seen in Ronald Lauder: a Mega Group member, former member of the Reagan administration, long-time donor to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel’s Likud Party, as well as a long-time friend of Donald Trump and Roy Cohn. …

    Other well-known groups associated with the Mega Group include the World Jewish Congress and B’nai B’rith, particularly its spin-off known as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

    FYI: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

  64. Kim says:
    @Chinaman

    Oh yes, Italy, the land of la dolce vista and dolce far niente, churches, cathedrals, an inimitable architectural heritage, and a vibrant history of free speech and individualism has so much in common with China, the land of endless work, slave labor camps, kidney thefts, social credit scores, church destruction, strictly government-controlled arts and media, history-and tradition-destroying government-directed cultural movements, and obsessive greed and materialism.

    And the family life of the Chinese – essentially a situation where children are born as hostages to be raised as collateral for their parent’s old age and are denied even a semblance of a true childhood as they sleepily stumble from their ramen noodles (just like pasta!) to yet another cramming school in the polluted fog of crowded and aesthetically repulsive Chinese cities -is just like that of the Italians.

    Yes, Italy and China. Two peas in a pod.

    • Agree: Fuerchtegott
    • Replies: @UK
    , @Chinaman
    , @last straw
  65. Realist says:
    @BlackFlag

    American goyim better make sure Trump doesn’t give special treatment to the Jews with Covid-19

  66. Realist says:
    @Realist

    This was meant for cortesar’s comment #1

  67. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:

    Bullshit CCP propaganda

    • Agree: Bruno
  68. annamaria says:
    @albionrevisited

    The ZUSA does neither competence nor accountability. See the falling planes and the mask-less hospitals.

  69. SteveK9 says:
    @animalogic

    Salvini actually had a good plan. I don’t recall the details but it involved creating a separate ‘internal’ currency, in parallel with the Euro. That would not only help Italy get out from the budget restrictions, but if successful, would pave the way for exiting the Euro in the future. It was a very smart idea. It may still come to pass, as I expect Salvini to become Prime Minister at some point.

  70. Bruno says:

    Yeah Chinese have sold millions of fake masks to Spanish and Dutch people.

    To French, we gave them 17 000 kg of medical material. Now they have sent us 2 000 kg !

    Stop the bullshit. Total decorrelation is needed. CEO doing outsourcing should go to jail

    • Replies: @annamaria
  71. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just Passing Through

    they were for all intents and purposes an economic colony of the British, and they want revenge

    No, not even close. Rather, China was an economic colony of the combined British, French, American, German, Japanese, Russian, Austro-Hungarian and Italian Empires. All the great empires of the 19th century were agreed that China must never be allowed to modernize and advance.

    However, notice that China seems to get on well with Germany, France, Russia, Austria and Italy.
    And less well with the United States, Britain and Japan.

    The difference is that the first set of countries have normal relations with China, while the second set are still deluded, doing all they can to see China fail.

    • Replies: @Malla
  72. @Realist

    Special treatment is Sonderbehandlung in German … very problematic words you are using, sir.

    • Replies: @Realist
  73. @UK

    Israel did the same thing a couple of years ago when a devastating hurricane hit Houston and the Gulf Coast. They sent aid….but only for their fellow Jews.

    https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Israel-sending-1-million-to-help-Jewish-hurricane-victims-in-Houston-533231

    Maybe if you build more “holocaust” memorials they’ll help you out next time goy.

    • Replies: @UK
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  74. @Chinaman

    “I have personally sent medical supplies, masks, disinfectant to my Italian friends and I shall offer my hand to my UNZ buddies here too even the white nationalists who yearn for my demise and China’s fall.”

    I think the more you hang around here you’ll find that almost all White nationalists have a great deal of respect for East Asians and your culture. We don’t hate you friend, we recognize you as a member of a fellow superior race. Don’t buy this “people of colour” shit that the left tries to push. We know the difference between blacks and East Asians, believe me. Also, the “conservatives” who are anti China are neocons, in other words, Jews and their lackeys.

    • Agree: Omegabooks, tac
    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Tor597
  75. @Tor597

    If the US persists in punishing Iran and denying them aid and medical supplies as they’re suffering along with the rest of the world, people will remember. The US was able to get away with murdering half a million Iraqi children because no one was watching. Everyone around the world is watching now.

  76. @Chinaman

    First, you gave us the Chinese virus and now the Confusion/Confucius theory …

    • Replies: @Parbes
  77. @Johnny Rico

    So you’ll be fucking off elsewhere then.
    Goodbye.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  78. Kim says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    I would take China’s protestations of friendship more seriously if the CCP would stop shipping vast amounts of fentanyl to my country. They can keep the masks.

  79. Realist says:
    @but an humble craftsman

    … very problematic words you are using, sir.

    True that.

  80. UK says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    I didn’t realise that minor charity from an Israeli “diaspora ministry” was something that normal people were supposed to expect.

    Thank you for educating me so that I too can be a dumb as a brick internet Nazi and whinge in a particularly gross somehow self-pitying and self-exulting way, when a small Middle Eastern government doesn’t randomly seems me money.

    Do you have any self-respect at all?

  81. @22pp22

    No doubt the motivations of the Chinese government make a big difference to the people whose lives are saved by their aid. How fiendishly clever and typically oriental of them too, eh, to disguise their evil intentions by doing good works.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  82. UK says:
    @Kim

    Given how lovely Chinaman’s post was, this is very harsh, but it is also sadly spot on. I’ve spoken to plenty of Chinese people who would agree absolutely.

    • Replies: @Kim
  83. Robjil says:
    @UK

    This small nation is not so small in the minds of our Congress people in the US.

  84. KenH says:
    @Chinaman

    I have personally sent medical supplies, masks, disinfectant to my Italian friends and I shall offer my hand to my UNZ buddies here too even the white nationalists who yearn for my demise and China’s fall. Let me know if anyone desperately need help.

    White nationalists don’t yearn for your or China’s demise. It seems you’ve fallen hard for Jewish propaganda regarding white nationalists or taken comments by some white nationalists wildly out of context.

    What we don’t want is to be colonized by Chinese or other non-European peoples or continue to rely on manufactured goods made in China that used to be made in America by American workers. I guarantee that the Chinese people don’t want to be swamped by non-Chinese but that doesn’t make them yellow nationalist who yearn for the demise of whites or other non-Chinese.

    • Agree: Omegabooks
    • Replies: @Tor597
  85. Catiline says:
    @Uncommonground

    I generally like Striker but this anti-EU ranting is absurd. Much of the info regarding the EU’s mistreatment of Italy is disinformation deliberately spread by the British who have their own squalid reasons for wanting EU members divided and the EU destroyed. Germany is working to find a compromise between the Italian position and the hard-line opposition of the Dutch – Britain’s fifth column inside the EU.

    • Agree: Uncommonground
  86. Kim says:
    @UK

    I am personally very fond of the Chinese people and find them in many ways admirable. I spent quite a few years in China. Had plenty of Chinese friends.

    Nonetheless, I despise the CCP and clearly recognize that they wish to destroy the West.

    • Agree: UK
  87. Tom Verso says:
    @James Stark

    Explain how a major disruption in the status quo helps the elites

    If the economy crashes because of various market reasons, the working class become revolutionary minded. No accident that subsequent to the 2008 crash, protest movements like “Occupy Wallstreet” movement came about, unions were calling for minimum wage increases, and socialist politicians like Bernie Sanders became popular.

    The Great Depression of the 1930s being the quintessential example working class rising as a result of a market crashed economy

    However, if the economy crashes because of medical emergency then there is no labor unrest. They accept a lower standard of living as an act of God. Meanwhile Wall Street and international moguls are buying up the stock market and real estate for pennies on the dollar; currently and in the 1930s

    In short, major disruptions in the status quo have always helped the elites at the expense of the non-elites. For that matter, non-major disruptions always help the elites at the expense of non-elites

    • Replies: @James Stark
  88. Chinaman says:
    @Alfred

    I will answer the call for help. Inexcusable not to help Orphans.

  89. @James Stark

    The Federal Reserve Note was going to fail no matter what. The jew mob that controls it knows when currencies crash the jig is up for them. They are trying to blame China and the flu so they can have a reset and stay in power. This ia by far the most ligical explanation for this.

    The above explanation is way more likely than the mob shut it all down because they care some old people might die.

    Its not going to work . The jew mob is done in the West and when we send them packing we are going to send their non white pets with them

    • Replies: @James Stark
  90. @UK

    Thought experiment:

    Imagine that there were some sort of plague affecting South Africa. Now further imagine that some organization headed by, say, David Duke or Richard Spencer decided to send aid to S. Africa to help with the plague, but only for white people. Can you just imagine the howls of indignation emanating from the Jew-media? I sure can! I can hear it now in my mind:

    RACISM!!! WHITE SUPREMACY!!! HATE!!! WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!

    Now, tell me again that this isn’t some double-standard for the goyim?

  91. Alfred says:
    @anastasia

    The Italian government scrutinized the cases of the first 100 deaths which the originally said died from corona virus, and said that they can only say two died from corona virus.

    Link please. In Italian if necessary. This is important.

    • Replies: @glib
    , @Pegasus
  92. Bravo to the Italians. They have kept the family alive, taken care of grandmas and grandpas and loved their mothers. For this they have been ridiculed endlessly. They are passionate and affectionate people and I wish them and the equally hard-hit Spaniards all the best.

    • Replies: @glib
  93. Tor597 says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Lol.

    White nationalists do not like East Asians. They see East Asians as an existential threat because unlike Blacks, Arabs, Latinos we could actually replace white people at the top of the pyramid.

    White people may have blacks at the front of their mind when they think of who they hate the most. But East Asians trigger the worst from white people because as the white race is declining they can see East Asia growing in power.

    Also, there will never be an alliance of “the superior races”. This concept is foreign to Asians. We may have issues with black people, but it is mainly in the vain of leave is alone and we will do the same for you.

    White people have a pathological desire to see everyone below them. Other races can succeed, but if they threaten white primacy in any way you see the typical Anglo shit of divide and conquer and propaganda calling them terrorists or ChiComs.

    • Agree: Chinaman
    • Disagree: tac
  94. @UK

    Upon further reflection I did come to realize that the “small Middle Eastern country” is desperately poor and that Jews themselves are among the poorest and most desperate people on earth. You’re right; when the average Jew in London is struggling just to be able to put more than a bowl of gruel on the table, how can they have money for others?

    And it’s not like people in England or America have ever given anything, like say the lives of hundreds of thousands of their young men in a world war or expelling Palestinians from their homeland, to help Jews.

    Yup, I guess us “dumb as a brick internet Nazis” are just so stupid that we can’t understand why Jews aren’t willing to help out the people they’ve lived among for hundreds of years.

    • Replies: @UK
  95. @Kim

    I don’t trust the actions of the CCP at all either. I just meant that Chinese people are superior to niggers.

  96. Chinaman says:
    @Kim

    Modern China and modern Chinese culture you described is a cheap Disneyland imitation of glorious Chinese civilisation of the Song\Tang. If you go on Sotheby and look at the Chinese art that was created in the last 1000 years, you will see the connection with Italy in terms of the love of art and craftsmanship. Of course, You will make comparisons between the two and then draw the conclusion that there is no comparison but then may be you should look at contemporary American art – Andy Warhol, Jeff Koon- before you make any harsh criticism. Modern Chinese culture is a grotesque shadow of its past …like the rendition of the Mona Lisa by Jean-Michel Basquiat…the most celebrated American artist.

    https://fujiiartmuseum.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/jean-michel-basquiat-mona-lisa-1983/

    The connection with China runs much deeper than art. Both people are hopelessly corruptible or “pragmatic” and it is all about relationships. This is in stark contrast to Teutonic\Japanese which are inflexible or principled in basically everything. You observe and describe the symptoms of modern China but you wrongly attributed the cause to the CCP. The people deserve its government and the CCP is the best compromise for China now….just as Trump the philistine is white people’s last hope.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @UK
    , @Anonymous
  97. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Seems that every time China comes up some commenters zip in quickly to set a nasty tone about them, describing the country as one big slave labor camp and so on; you know the drill. It’s unlikely they’ve ever been there or have any special knowledge about anything whatsoever. If they’re not professional internet monitors whose job it is to insert propaganda themes into all online discussions then they’re deluded victims of the American propaganda machine. The American PR mechanism is the slickest and largest in history. The Chinese are being blamed for this virus outbreak but then why do people refer to the 1918 virus as the Spanish Flu when it appears that it was American troops who went overseas and spread it? Should be called the American flu but somehow it got blamed on the Spanish. If the Chinese give aid to demonstrate their capabilities then who cares? Aid is aid so let them get the credit.

    • Replies: @Alden
  98. Tor597 says:
    @KenH

    Nice propaganda.

    White nationalists were literally salivating when the Corona Virus first emerged because they thought it was going to be a kill shot on China.

    The comments are all here at Unz, YouTube, Pol, or any other place white nationalists talk. Just look back around January.

    This isn’t Jewish propaganda. This is something that is deep seeded in white people as a whole.

    White people have never learned to be in harmony with other people and to exist within a plurality. With white people it is always the “Game of Thrones” trying to rule the world.

    Oh, and it is rich complaining about being colonized when white people are literally colonizing the world. If you don’t want the world in your house, then you should first leave theirs.

  99. Chinaman says:
    @Observator

    disguise their evil intentions by doing good works.

    Interesting, how does the evils of helping compared with the evil of doing nothing and letting people die….which manifestly is your preference?

    There is no doubt about the evil ulterior motive of gaining friendship, rapport and camaraderie which you wouldn’t want any chinaman to have of course.

    • Replies: @fatmanscoop
  100. glib says:
    @Alfred

    but not unexpected. A bulletin from Italy, with an english version, showed 88% misdiagnosis. That would be a factor 8. The post you replied to says a factor of 50 with large statistical errors.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  101. Kim says:
    @Chinaman

    You are absolutely right that we deserve our leaders…and that doesn’t reflect well on any of us.

    As for “last hopes”, I am confident that this particular movie we are all in will see an ending where we all go down with the ship, every country, and there will be very few survivors.

    And on the topic of “modern art”, well that is one part Jewish financial scam and one part demoralization propaganda. And that belongs to ZOG, not whites.

    But yes, it is putrid and it infects both China and the West.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  102. glib says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    The last (up to March 25 included) data from Spain show mortality within norm.

    • Replies: @Herald
  103. Trinity says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    No actually ZIONISM must become a dirty word to Americans, French, English, Germans, Italians, the French and other traditionally WHITE NATIONS.

    And POLITICALLY CORRECT CUCKOLDS NEED TO QUIT USING NAMES LIKE “GLOBALISM,” “THE DEEP STATE” AND OTHER STUPID NAMES TO IDENTIFY ZIONISM.

    How in the world can you defeat an enemy you refuse to even identify. People have no problem identifying Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, or Iranians or anyone else who “our” Jewish media tells us is the enemy but yet we self censor ourselves when talking about ZIONIST.

    • Agree: Dr. Krieger
  104. @anon

    That quote from the ACLJ article had me cringing hard. Striker really couldn’t have found a better source for his claim?

  105. So I guess the new rules at UR are as follows:

    Every blogger and columnist will lick the taint of China. The end.

  106. @BlackFlag

    They live in America to do business here.

    “Home is where the heart is”; which is Israel, the land to which they flee when they run afoul of the law here.

  107. Robjil says:
    @Tor597

    There are no Euro Caucasians on top of the pyramid in the west.

    Look at Sweden.

    Barbara Lerner Spectre, an American Ashkenazi, immigrated to Israel and now Sweden.

    She thinks that she owns Sweden.

    She is trying to create a plantation, of masses from all over the world, in Sweden with Zios like her at top.

    All top positions in the west are Zionist

    Biden says he is a Zionist, he though he isn’ t a Jew.

    H. Clinton says a topple of Assad would be good for Israel.

    She laughed about Khadafi being killed by her paid Zion crew.

    Trump got the tree of life award from an Zionist organization. He is very proud of it.

    Euro Caucasians had no power in the west since 12.23.1913.

    It is fantasy to think otherwise.

    Asians still have their nations. Lucky people.

    East Europeans still have respect for their peoples. So it is not as bad there as the west. They don’t kneel to Zionists as much.

    • Agree: tac
    • Replies: @Tor597
  108. Trinity says:

    Israel ONLY HELPING Jews, WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT? ISRAEL ISN’T A FRIEND OF ITALY, THE REST OF EUROPE OR AMERICA, WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GULLIBLE GOYIM GOING TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT?

    IMO, Israel is the culprit behind this MANUFACTURED VIRUS. Sorry, Mr. Eric, while I thank you for pointing out the Turks and Israel are not friends of Italy or the White man, YES, I don’t consider Turks or Jews white, seems like you are buying into the FUDGED FIGURES about this (((virus.))) You and others need to worry more about your liberties being taken away than this over-hyped flu bug. WHY in the hell would you believe the death toll figures from the same people who told you about 9-11 and WMD, the same people who told you 6 million Jews died in the “holocaust” and that Germans turned Jews into bars of soap and lampshades. Is the (((virus))) real? Is the (((virus))) killing people? Answer: SURE, but then again people are always dying each and every year from the flu, cancer, diabetes, heart attacks, etc.

  109. UK says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    I feel like I’m speaking with a completely hysterical old cat lady.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  110. @UK

    So UK, you have been instructed to say: “Why should Jews care about any one else?” Wait a minute. Where did Aaron go?

  111. UK says:
    @Chinaman

    This is a great reply.

  112. Alfred says:
    @glib

    Any links? 🙂

    • Replies: @glib
  113. Chinaman says:
    @Tor597

    I agree with but human beings are full of contradiction. The race and identity part is IMO actually quite superficial and all these white nationalist get suck into it because they feel helpless in the real world in response to their environment.

    Race is as much biological reality as it is a psychological construct. In everyday life, People connect as individuals. So having spent a bit of time here, all these white nationalist here are kind of like acquaintances who hold some absurd superstitious belief but relatively harmless. You can still be friends with affable flat-earthers. To each to his own. We focus on the shared humanity and not our differences.

    • Agree: UK
    • Replies: @BlackFlag
  114. @UK

    The brainwashed Brit called us a Nazi, guys. Time to pack it up and go home…

    @UK, why did you ignore my reply (#34)? Did it break your brain to consider the Jews are in reality hypocritical ethnocentrist fanatics?

  115. Herald says:
    @ivan

    There you’ve said it. I do hope it makes you feel better.

  116. @Tor597

    If you take anything at “Pol [sic]” seriously, you’re the problem, guy.

  117. So now China is the global hero? China is like a guy who sets your house on fire and then gives you a glass of water. You’re an idiot, Striker.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  118. Chinaman says:
    @Kim

    and that doesn’t reflect well on any of us… we are all in will see an ending where we all go down with the ship,

    Well, there you go. Whatever Race and creed you identify with, we are all in this shit together.

    CCP or the Anglo-Zionist are opposite sides of the same coin. Nazis and democrats are not all that different. ( democrats put Hilter power) hate and envy drive their agendas.. Government and leaders around the world are the same. Trump and Xi are better friends than you think.

    Anyone who have gained that epiphany will know that all these ideologies are just sales pitch so we will surrender our independent thought and to be cannon fodder in their power struggles.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  119. Learner says:

    You can only share what is redundant. Every country has to take of their own And after that you can take care of others.

  120. @FvS

    It was Chinese negligence and their ridiculous “traditional medicine” demands that created the conditions for the emergence of the virus in the first place.

    So, after 4000 years of traditional medicine using pangolin scales, suddenly it becomes the source?
    Keep drinking the Flavor Ade you linked to, you don’t even have to move to Guyana. There is no conclusive proof of where the virus emerged. The Chinese have allowed international access to data. Some Japanese think it was the US:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2020/0223/c90000-9661026.html – as did a Taiwanese virologist.

    Personally, I’ve never believed the official narrative of any issue, and the bigger the issue, the more bullshit it contains. Let’s wait a year and re-evaluate at that time.

    • Replies: @interesting
  121. KenH says:
    @Tor597

    Nice propaganda.

    Nice comments by someone who’s badly brainwashed and probably a Chinese propagandist themselves.

    White people have never learned to be in harmony with other people and to exist within a plurality. With white people it is always the “Game of Thrones” trying to rule the world.

    White people dismantled their colonies in the 20th centuries and/or worked against their diaspora populations as in Algeria, Rhodesia and South Africa and left white Europeans to the tender mercies of black majorities in the latter two cases. If white people were such cruel masters then why have the colonized peoples like Indians, Pakistanis and Africans eagerly followed the white colonists back to their home countries?

    Oh, and it is rich complaining about being colonized when white people are literally colonizing the world.

    Where? White populations are declining around the world and to such a degree that they’re allowing the third world to colonize them. OTOH China is encouraging its people to colonize the Western world and have learned to call anyone opposing this racist and xenophobe.

    • Agree: Kal, SBaker
    • Replies: @Tor597
  122. @cranc

    ‘Some people’ is one person though isn’t it?

    Actually, “some” has to be more than one, and should be more than two. A “number” of people is more than one. Otherwise, you’ve pretty much nailed it.

  123. Anon[288] • Disclaimer says:

    I was just looking at freetepublic. There were several articles about the test kits China donated to other countries. 8o-70 percent didn’t work.

    For various geographical and bird migration reasons beyond its control, China has always been the incubator of plagues.

    But this ridiculous defense of the latest Chinese Plague on UNZ is truly reprehensible. It started in the Chinese city of Wuhan. Chinese traveled back and forth to other countries and spread it.

    Whether traders and nomads from China through Central Asia to The Middle East and Europe 5,000 years ago, to air travel today, plagues come from China.

    That’s a fact. To deny it is ridiculous.

    There also stories on the internet that 21 million cell phone accounts in China were cancelled since January. And hundreds of thousands of funeral urns being hurriedly manufactured. Those stories may or not be true. Same as all the Godfrey Roberts Ron UNZ Eric Striker tales about American BioWare fare, malfeasance and Chinese heroic ending the latest plague may or not be true.

    • Replies: @Anon
  124. @Tor597

    “They see East Asians as an existential threat because unlike Blacks, Arabs, Latinos we could actually replace white people at the top of the pyramid.”

    Let’s not get carried away friend. East Asians are as intelligent as Whites, but lack the creativity that Whites have so it’s extremely unlikely that Asians will replace Jews/Whites at the top. I just meant that we see you as being superior to black and brown people, which you are. But if you want to join forces with Team Negro, go ahead. The NBA has already conditioned you to see blacks as physically superior to your men, it’s just a matter of time until your women start to notice too.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  125. Kal says:

    And did the Chinese from Wenzhou apologize to Italians for siding with leftists and Jews protesting quarantine? I doubt it.
    Most Chinese ally with jews and the 白左 they laugh at when it comes to white nations.
    That all being said at least the CCP is actually trying to aid Italy even though they don’t want to acknowledge any of their culpability in the spread of this virus.

  126. @GeeBee

    What you write is heresy. Be careful, friend or you may be Covid19-ed.

  127. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kim

    I would take China’s protestations of friendship more seriously if the CCP would stop shipping vast amounts of fentanyl to my country.

    Fentanyl is shipped as a commercial product, for industrial uses, and most crucially, it is we who order enormous quantities of fentanyl from producers in China.

    If want our suppliers to stop ordering that stuff, we can simply criminalize fentanyl. Problem solved.

    It’s not like China is somehow finding illegal ways to ship it into our country. It’s all brought in by local business. Fentanyl isn’t cocaine, or heroin. We can’t blame foreign factories for filling orders which we consider legal.

    • Replies: @Kim
  128. Reisen says:

    This is the same China that told Italians to ‘hug an Asian’ to fight racism, right?

  129. Really don’t like the title and its sentiment, Eric Striker.

    “Never Forgive Never Forget” is a Jewish sentiment that Jews hand down generation to generation.

    Italians have had a long, long relationship with Jews, and are also capable of holding onto simmering hate — the Genoese used to say, Better a death in the house than a Pisan at the door — but just this once, and Italians being a generous people, let Jews own “Never Forgive Never Forget.”

  130. @ivan

    Whereas the Chicoms who hid the whole outbreak from November December onwards, reported 3,000 deaths

    Your evidence that the outbreak started in November and the Chinese government hid it then?

    Your evidence that Chinese government is faking their numbers? You have better data than the Chinese ones? The data go back to Feb. 3:

    http://en.nhc.gov.cn/DailyBriefing.html

    Use google full-page translation, you can also see the data in Chinese, which go back to Jan. 26:

    http://www.nhc.gov.cn/yjb/pzhgli/new_list_3.shtml

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @starthorn
  131. SBaker says:
    @cortesar

    I care very much for Italy and have sent an anonymous gift of medical supplies. China on the other hand, is using the tragedy they foisted on the entire planet, to gain influence for the Chicoms. The Chicoms have mastered the art of praying on the stupidity of their serfs. Mao had them worshipping him and his little red book of cons. Chinese people who refused were part of Mao’s purging/murdering 50 million of his own people-a small price to bring Maomao’s dictatorship to power.

  132. Miro23 says:
    @Tor597

    White nationalists do not like East Asians. They see East Asians as an existential threat because unlike Blacks, Arabs, Latinos we could actually replace white people at the top of the pyramid.

    Well that’s not happening. East Asian work hard, they’re co-operative and get great academic results, but you may have noticed that they’re almost always passed over for top positions ( Anglo world) in favour of South Asian Indians (red dot).

    The NWO love affair is with India, not China. Malla makes this point with the extensive NWO activities in India itself. Also, Indian Hindus speak English as a national language and are becoming aggressively anti-Muslim.

    https://www.forbesindia.com/article/boardroom/how-blackstone-made-india-its-largest-market-in-asia/53849/1
    How Blackstone made India its largest market in Asia

    https://realtynxt.com/2018/04/06/blackstone-indias-biggest-property-investment-portfolio-reaches-5-billion-mark/
    Blackstone: India’s Biggest Property Investment Portfolio Reaches $5 Billion Mark

    https://www.businesstoday.in/bt-buzz/news/bt-buzz-blackstone-the-buyer-of-last-resort-for-cash-strapped-indian-real-estate-developers/story/360718.html
    Blackstone, the last resort for cash-strapped Indian real estate developers

    https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/markets/Goldman-Sachs-buys-Yes-Bank-shares-worth-Rs-77-cr/article20662660.ece
    Goldman Sachs buys Yes Bank shares worth Rs 77 cr

    [MORE]

    https://m.economictimes.com/opinion/interviews/goldman-sachs-is-one-of-the-major-investors-in-india-michael-evans/articleshow/5709048.cms
    Goldman Sachs is one of the major investors in India: Michael Evans

    No doubt BJP loves Israel. Enjoy while getting raped is not an unknown advice to RSS-BJP- Yogi brigand.

    After all a Jewish Americn PR firm with close links to Israel played a huge part in Modi’s popularity & victory and also marketed ‘Shining Gujrat’ BS.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/how-an-american-lobbying-company-apco-worldwide-markets-narendra-modi-to-the-world/articleshow/17537402.cms
    How an American lobbying company Apco Worldwide markets Narendra Modi to the world
    https://aamjanata.com/politics/the-brainwash-chronicles-sponsored-by-gujarat-government/
    “Enter APCO – in 2006 – supposedly to promote a vibrant Gujarat (remember India shining in 2004?) but very conveniently in time for the 2007 elections.”

    https://everything-pr.com/jewish-pr-firms/
    APCO is a Jewish PR firm.

  133. @Chinaman

    Why would “white nationalists” wish for Yellow Supremacists-such-as-yourself’s demise? White nationalists’ political preoccupation is with their white nation, not your yellow nation. The clue is in the name.

    • Agree: Kal
    • Replies: @jsigur
  134. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Greg Bacon

    reply to 22pp22

    But China is acting out of self interest, not compassion.

    “Self interest OR compassion”

    What an utterly simplistic, black-or-white view of reality.

    If your neighbor’s house is on fire, and you help him rescue his baby son and little daughter from the flames, at the moment you’re doing it, what you feel is compassion.

    Later on if, without you rubbing his face in it, he feels better about you, are you supposed to be bothered by that?

    An action can be about both self-interest AND real compassion.

    • Agree: Kal
  135. Parbes says:
    @Really No Shit

    Interesting how you fail to even mention the strong possibility that COVID-19 is a biowarfare agent developed by the U.S. government against China, and deployed by the U.S. military personnel who participated in the Military Games in Wuhan a couple of months before the outbreak, staying in a hotel right next to the later epicenter. And many other “coincidences” and interesting snippets of evidence.

    How much are they paying you by the word to post your propaganda crap on these websites? That is money that should be getting used to treat sick Americans right now, you know.

    • Replies: @Alden
  136. @Chinaman

    There is no doubt about the evil ulterior motive of gaining friendship, rapport and camaraderie which you wouldn’t want any chinaman to have of course.

    The kind of demented chip-on-the-shoulder passive-aggressive discourse popular with the oh-so-sacred “minorities”, and which makes our current society impossible and unbearable. You are brainwashed with Political Correctness dogma or something. Insane.

    • Replies: @Kim
  137. UK says:

    That’s an analogy to help me understand your point of view. I get it, I just think it (your PoV) depends on one having a whole host of demons constructed in one’s psyche that don’t actually exist (ZOG, Elders of Zion, whatever). Even while I get those phantasmic demons have been imagined by some people to either protect them from some external truth or even perhaps to deal with their internal issues or simply as projection.

    My point of view is that a Jewish charity in Israel sending some small monies to some Jews in Italy who are suffering is equivalent to the CofE helping out some Christians in the Middle East with small supplies or Irish-Americans especially enjoying celebrating St Patrick’s Day or whatever. Anyone offended by either has lost the plot. Notice: no rampant unbalanced over-emotionalism nor extreme callousness in my statement? It is because I am not wrestling with any demons in making it.

    I mean what has to be wrong with someone for them to read about small monies going from a Jewish charity to help some Jews and be outraged…what next?

    OMG, some Jew donated a new set of chairs to a Synagogue?

    Someone else set up a Yiddish library?

    An Italian-American always dreamt of visiting Italy?

    • Troll: Trinity
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @fatmanscoop
  138. Kal says:
    @Tor597

    I am not sure how you think the race that invented the whole egalatarian idelogy and Enlightenment thought is the group that wants to see everyone below them if anything whites by and large are so outrightly refusing inequality to the point we are following that ideology to our graves.

    White nationalists will talk bad about Chinese, but not Japanese because Chinese always push fentanyl into our countries and ally with nonwhites, leftists, and jews when they are here. Besides, the massive colonization going on in Canada and Australia.

    Also, every East Asian country teaches their people about how superior they are to white people. Most whites frankly don’t give a shit about being on top and WNs hate the poisonous American Zog culture pushed into every country of the world. Whites want to be left alone. China is an existential threat and no white person would want to live under Chinese rule considering how Chinese rule treats those under them. Han have been continuously absorbing and purposely destroying ethnic minorities like the 满族 who almost none of them know their native tongue anymore. Mongols, Tibetans, and Uighurs all have lost land and are purposely being bred out. Why would whites want to suffer the same? Considering Chinese males obsession with white women. China is imperialist and it is still globalisn just Chinese led globalism.

    It would be a dream if China was actually a benevolent power towards whites, but that isn’t the reality. I can appreciate the CCP helping Italy right now because even if it is done for cynical reasons, it is actually aid. Credit to them for actually doing something.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  139. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    It was called the Spanish Flu because the public health services of Spain were the first in the world to notice it was a new and very virulent strain of flu. The Spanish medics and Public Health Service warned the nation about it. The Spanish newspapers reported it.

    It had been in the American state of Kansas off and on since about 1914. Local Kansas towns ended it by severe quarantine. But the virus was still around Then Wilson ordered the army to build more to house the soldiers. But the news was severely repressed by the Wilson government when troops in training at Leavenworth and other bases became infected.

    Both the army medical service and local Kansas medics and health departments begged the Wilson administration to help. But Wilson sent all those soldiers overseas anyway. Most of it was due to overcrowding in hastily built barracks classrooms and cafeterias on army bases. Wilson knew. The army knew. Both Wilson and the army refused to follow the advice of the army Drs and local Kansas Drs and health authorities.

    I vaguely remember high school history book blaming it on the years of filthy trenches in N France.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  140. annamaria says:
    @Bruno

    Some people love, love barking up the wrong tree.
    Tell us again, why there was the ZUSA’s plan to do “seven countries in five years?”
    Why the ZUSA has destroyed Iraq, Libya, Syria (this one is still trying to survive), and has bombed Afghanistan to stone age?
    Why the ZUSA beats the drums of war against Iran, the noble ancient civilization? Quaddaffi told the ziocon idiots that Europe will suffer a sub-Saharan migrants’ invasion if Libya were ruined by the idiots. And yet the sub-human ziocons did ruin the gem of North Africa. https://theowp.org/reports/post-gaddafi-libyan-paradise-turns-to-hell/

    “The Invasion of Italy from Forced EU Migration is collapsing Society, Order, and Peace:” https://www.bitchute.com/video/WtvtcLoiWfED/

  141. BlackFlag says:
    @Chinaman

    Certainly there are many pro-White activists who get sucked into politics cause of personal failings.

    What about Jewish activists? Does the same apply? Most Jewish ultra high net worth individuals contribute heavily to Jewish organizations. Is it cause of personal failings?

    What’s your take on Tibetan and Black activists?

  142. UK says:
    @Chief Ambassador to the Clockwork Elves

    Your argument reminds me of a lunatic, heroin-addled tramp screaming at a dustbin down an alleyway that the dustbin just doesn’t care enough about him.

    Who…actually “what” are you ranting at? These things in your head you call “Jews” or “Israel” don’t match reality at all!

    You even project to onto the charity that they think the Italian Jews are especially suffering, when in reality the Jewish charity is just especially touched by the suffering of those Jews. And?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  143. Tony says:
    @anon

    Striker struck out on this one. The chinese govt is no friend of the west and definitely no friend of the USA. They threaten to withhold our drugs, send us contaminated drugs, and could have stopped this whole thing from spreading if they were truthful and open with us from the beginning.

  144. @Tor597

    White people have never learned to be in harmony with other people and to exist within a plurality.

    The sociological construct “white people” is American, and it arose through the amalgamation of people from a multitude of different European migrants, who moved to a different country and formed an overarching polity out of the multitude of their original ethnic groups (Germanic, Latin/Hispanic, Gallic Celtic/Irish, Slavic, etc) and different religious denominations. Your own use of terminology belies your point.

  145. Corvinus says:

    “Israel, a dangerous rogue nation…”

    is a Fake News statement.

    • Replies: @Wally
  146. Corvinus says:
    @UK

    I absolutely concur.

  147. Trinity says:

    Hey America, how much do you think Israel is going to send you? How long have we been sending BILLIONS to a country that only wishes to suck America dry? Hey patriotards, Christian Zionists, Trumptards and even you unwashed, idiotic leftoids who will feebly become anti-Israel ONLY when comes to protecting brown Palestinians, but could care less about what Israel does to America, do you think Israel cares about White people? If things go as planned and after stupid American goyim of all colors go off and fight for the Greater Israel, and America turns into a turd world shithole, most of the Jews in America will probably wave bye-bye and go off to live in Greater Israel or pillage some other gullible nation. Hard to imagine any other group being as gullible as Whites though. People reading about Israel not giving two shits about Italians and my bet is that the clueless goyim ( except for a few) will still not care or realize that Israel is not a friend of Europe or America. They will still say that Israel is our bestest best friend in the whole wide world of sports. smdh. And do you really think the Turks are your friend as well? Do you really think Turks are the same as White Europeans? HELL NO.

    • Replies: @Turk 152
  148. @Tor597

    We don’t want you near us at all. You impose yourselves on us and then make up things in your head. We just want to be left alone. Go back where you belong.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  149. AaronB says:
    @Chinaman

    Excellent comment.

    That’s why the people on Unz trying to push the CCP as an alternative to America are so absurd.

    Being disappointed in America, I understand the desire to find another country to admire – the CCP is emphatically not it.

    Modern China offers no alternative to the West. I hope China returns to the glories of its Tang past. That would be an alternative to the – modern – West.

    But we are all modern now, and the whole world is more or less in the same place.

  150. annamaria says:
    @UK

    I guess the truth hurts and that facts have an antisemitic bias for “UK”.
    The principled and courageous Assange is in a high-security prison in the UK whereas Ghislaine Maxwell, a procuress of underage girls for pedophiles and Mossad agent, is free and her property is safe in the UK. Too many Friends of Israel of all flavors in the UK, this is why the honest person is imprisoned, while the Israeli lady-scoundrel (as well as the mega-scoundrel Browder) is untouchable in the UK.

    • Agree: Rurik
  151. SBaker says:
    @FvS

    It was Chinese negligence and their ridiculous “traditional medicine” demands that created the conditions for the emergence of the virus in the first place. They should be helping.

    China should be paying the entire bill. Some of us still remember their melamine disaster that cost the lives of 50,000 people and an estimated 100,000 canine pets in the West. I realize the Chinese have little regard for the Chinese serfs and even less for other species.

  152. @cranc

    I don’t get the wishy-washy slant of the Unz Review. Earlier, Ron himself was downplaying the virus and saying it came from a US lab. Now he’s writing and publishing articles that feed into the hype. Everyone here knows most of our info comes from jewish sources, yet they still cite these sources as gospel.

    • Replies: @cranc
  153. @Chinaman

    So you actually think all white folks want the demise of China? Well, kiddo, I am not one of those…and I really wish folks would stop blaming white folks for all of the world’s problems! And you wonder why there are “white nationalists”? Folks like you! That’s why!

  154. @Anon #124
    ‘I was just looking at freetepublic. There were several articles about the test kits China donated to other countries. 8o-70 percent didn’t work.’

    ‘There also stories on the internet that 21 million cell phone accounts in China were cancelled since January. And hundreds of thousands of funeral urns being hurriedly manufactured. Those stories may or not be true. ‘

    You eat a lot lies from Taiwan.
    Taiwan media is a rumor production center about China. Very high productivity.

    But anyhow, can you confirm me whether this message is true:
    California somewhere in some medic labor union warehouse, people recently suddenly find out 39 million N95 masks.

    Is it true? Or rumor?
    If it is true, will those masks be donated to US medic system for free? Or someone is going to charge for these masks?

    I am not really rely on you checking out this message. You are probably Taiwanese.

  155. Alden says:
    @GeeBee

    I’ve always just gone to the station and bought train tickets in Italy. Only a few people in line every time in the summer tourist season. Never a wait of more than a few minutes. Never bought weekly or month passes. Don’t think I’ve ever been to the Rome or Milano train stations. Venice station is very crowded but no long lines for anything as far as I can remember.

    Contrast that to the hour long lines for the gestapo scumbag TSA at American airports. And baggage check. Or the shuttle bus taking 40 minutes to get from the parking lot to your terminal. Then another hour hour & 1/2 to get to the departure gate via the cattle chute TSA lines.

    Traveling with children tip. If there’s a long irritating line, have them wait in line while you relax somewhere. Kids over the age of 8 are perfectly capable of standing in line to check airline baggage and bring you the claim tags. Or standing in line at ski cafes at lunch time and bringing you lunch. They enjoy it. And they should do some of the work on vacation. A lot of the work. Parents aren’t slaves.

  156. @anonymous

    There’s times I wonder if George Soros is a group of people (minions) instead of an individual. either that or he never sleeps, or it is a group and the real George Soros is just the “front man” so to speak.

  157. @cortesar

    I can’t speak for Mr. Striker but let me answer your questions for myself.

    Do you really care for Italy?

    Yes.

    Have you ever been to Italy?

    Many times.

    How many governments Italy had in first 50 years after WW2?

    During the Cold War the average Italian government/executive administration lasted a mere 9 months on average. The explanation for this is complicated, but it had something to do with the multi-party proportional representation system in combination with Italy’s unique ideological divisions and general dysfunction of the entire public sphere in Italy.

    The structure of the Italian political party system changed substantially after the fall of the USSR and Italy began to have political continuity, particularly under Berlusconi administrations.

    What was the ideology/political leaning of these governments for the most part?

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    The answer to that question is complicated, but let’s get the first thing straight: during the entirety of the Cold War the Christian Democrats controlled every single government.

    The ideological break down of Italian politics during the Cold War, elections of 1948-end of USSR in order of political popularity.

    1) CD/Christian Democrats – Big Tent center, with weight on the center right, but some moderate left also.

    2) PCI/”Communists” – Old Labor Left, with strong influence in the industrial unions, some relative political successes (1976), but sidelined from executive power.

    3) PSI/”Socialists” – politically between the CD and PCI, often a coalition partner with CD.
    Yes, you read that right: Italy was unique among western nations in that the Communists were more popular than the Socialists.

    So, the answer to your question is complicated. To describe the political leaning of the “governments” as left would be wrong, since the CD was always in charge. The CD centrist stance was not an ideology chosen in a vacuum but a product of the historical/domestic/international situation.

    1) Italy had just had 23 years of far-right dictatorship (1922-43 over the whole; 1943-45 in the north as RSI), so stridently rightist politics were not popular and those who wanted to keep Italy out of the Soviet bloc (the entire Italian political establishment) had to tactically go for compromise.

    2) The left’s main power was outside parliament, in the industrial unions composed largely of blue collar workers who had relatively recently set down their partisan rifles and followed the PCI’s directives to participate in the electoral strategy of the party.

    3) Rightly or wrongly, many Italians of the period had a positive image of the Soviet Union, and had the 1948 election gone differently, Italy may have joined the Eastern Bloc. That would probably have produced an immediate US/Soviet hot war because for all their faults the Soviets were gentlemen on the international scene while the US was absolutely murderous. I am confident the US would have taught the Italian people a “lesson” just like they taught the Vietnamese for voting for Ho Chi Minh.

    At the end of the day, the political balance was good; Italy remained mostly capitalist while the pull of the left forced concessions that allowed my dad to grown up with in-door plumbing.

    After the fall of the USSR, the entire system changed. The PCI chose to abandon its far-left positions, and moved towards the center, eventually becoming the neo-liberal cucks they are today in the form of the disgusting Democratic Party. The CD and PSI fell apart under corruption scandals.

    The most promising political development is Lega. Once a northern Italian separatist/Padanian nationalist party it has managed to produce a much needed paradigm shift in Italian politics

    How long you have to wait ( average) in the line to buy for the train ticket in Rome
    central train station

    Here is what I will say: Italy’s public services are dysfunctional. All Italians know that. In fact a not too infrequent conversation around the dinner table is “What is wrong with us, cazzo?” We scratch our heads trying to understand how a once world super power and leading contributor to art, music, literature and a valuable participant (if not leader) in the scientific revolution can’t run a post office. I have some thoughts but I will leave those for another post. Any way enjoy this funny video.

    It is not surprise that every single leftist of the dissident right (so to speak) has sided with leftoids in spreading the panic

    Let me give you a counter-example to the generalization. I am highly skeptical of this whole thing and it is not clear what is going on. That said, the focus of Mr. Striker’s article was about how the EU is throwing Italy under the bus, while the Chinese (for whatever motives) are offering a hand.

    Personally, I like what the PRC is doing. Italy needs to know that there is no “Union” in EU. It is obvious by now that the EU is a system of vassalage to Washington-aligned bureaucrats in Brussels who offer nothing in return for the loss of sovereignty. The PRC, on the other hand, is offering aid and solidarity with a distant people, while so far not demanding any political allegiance.

    • Replies: @cortesar
    , @FB
  158. @Tom Verso

    Good points, but how would they get every other country on board with this, including Iran and China? I agree that this is a convenient cover for the bubble bursting though. I just don’t think the virus is fake.

  159. @James Scott

    I hope so, but my post was in response to Pft saying the virus was faked and that pneumonia and flu deaths were being attributed to it. I agree that it’s a great excuse for explaining away the failure of their usury system. I just don’t think the virus is fake. Maybe they even engineered it? I have no way of knowing but It really doesn’t seem like the virus is just the flu.

  160. Hibernian says:
    @anon

    China is the ultimate example of good people stuck with a bad government.

  161. @Kim

    Oh yes, Italy, the land of la dolce vista and dolce far niente, churches, cathedrals, an inimitable architectural heritage, and a vibrant history of free speech and individualism has so much in common with China, the land of endless work, slave labor camps, kidney thefts, social credit scores, church destruction, strictly government-controlled arts and media, history-and tradition-destroying government-directed cultural movements, and obsessive greed and materialism.

    And the family life of the Chinese – essentially a situation where children are born as hostages to be raised as collateral for their parent’s old age and are denied even a semblance of a true childhood as they sleepily stumble from their ramen noodles (just like pasta!) to yet another cramming school in the polluted fog of crowded and aesthetically repulsive Chinese cities -is just like that of the Italians.

    Yes, Italy and China. Two peas in a pod.

    So hard-working Chinese who see their income rising 20-fold or so since early 1980s and have a 90% home ownership are just slaves? A China with abundant modern infrastructures is a land of slave camps? Kidney theft, illegal organ trade, which exist in every country, is the only thing worth mentioning for a healthcare system that raised the healthy lifespan of its population above America’s, with only a fraction of its per capita income? What’s wrong with social scores? How about credit scores and no-flight lists? The current Chinese government is demolishing churches in a country with the fast growing Christian population, really? The current Chinese government is trying to destroy China’s traditional culture instead of promoting it, who knew? As for people who are greedy and materialistic, every country is full of those, not only China.

    Chinese children who score the best in PISA tests, and immersed in the traditional Confucius culture of respecting their parents and elders, are just a bunch of noodle eaters in polluted cities, as though China has not made big strides in reducing pollution in recent years?

    This is unmitigated China-bashing.

    • Replies: @UK
  162. Trinity says:
    @James Scott

    THEY can’t CREATE a first world nation without aid from the White man and many CHOOSE to live in OUR lands and leech off OUR nations. Tell these nonwhite ingrates to get off the computer, quit driving automobiles, flying in jets, watching television or listening to the radio for starters.

    In the excellent book, “MY AWAKENING” by Dr. David Duke, Duke uses an example of how Whites made a first world nation out of one the most inhospitable places on the planet, Iceland. Rocky terrain not conducive to growing crops, isolated from much of the world, freezing temperatures, etc., yet the White man MADE IT WORK. Then Dr. Duke takes a look at Haiti, the jewel of the Caribbean when the French were there, but when the Black man took over, he couldn’t make it. Haiti had all the advantages that Iceland didn’t have, fertile ground to grow crops, tropical warm weather, warm waters with an abundance of fish to feed the hungry, etc. It is high time that Whites started becoming SELFISH AND SELF CENTERED just like everyone else. IF it weren’t for Whites, half of Africa would have starved to death, along with other places like Southeast Asia, Central America, etc. These people are like spoiled children, no matter how much Whitey gives to them, they are still going to hate and despise you, so stop with the mo gibz, they don’t have any gratitude at all. Start helping poor Whites in Appalachia, the homeless Whites in Europe, America, etc. LOOK OUT FOR YOUR OWN FIRST and then if you have some spare change MAYBE then you can help nonwhites, that is the way nonwhites HAVE ALWAYS OPERATED, so what is good for the goose is certainly good for the gander.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  163. Hibernian says:
    @James Stark

    How did the bombing of Pearl Harbor, invited by Roosevelt, the Korean War, invited by Truman, or the Vietnam fiasco, courtesy of Johnson, help the elites? The goal of at least a large part of the elites is trading wealth for the power to control other people’s lives. They have limitless egos. They believe their wealth, and living in luxury buildings with doormen and/or on suburban or exurban estates, will protect them, and to a large extent it does.

  164. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Both people are hopelessly corruptible or “pragmatic” and it is all about relationships. This is in stark contrast to Teutonic\Japanese which are inflexible or principled in basically everything.

    Beg to disagree, respectfully. I have had contact with Chinese both of the Overseas type and of the Mainland sort. They have differences, the greatest of which is in the degree of loyalty to clan, as opposed to loyalty to race and country.

    This is only my outsider perspective, but sometimes an outsider can see things that an insider cannot,

    Overseas Chinese seem to regard Mainlanders as a bit brutal and savage, who have demoted Confucius in the pantheon of China, and instead have turned to Laozi, Qin Shi Huang, Sun Tzu, Sun Pin, Han Wudi , Tang Taizong and Hongwu as their guides and mentors. The Mainland Chinese even have ENORMOUS reverence for (horror!) Kublai and Kangxi! Blasphemy under Heaven!

    To the Overseas Chinese, Mainlanders are hopelessly brainwashed hyper-nationalists, putting Zhong Guo (China) above all else. Mainlanders would do the unspeakable – they would turn against their own blood, because they think of China itself as their extended blood, their “Country-as-Family”. Overseas Chinese identify most with the scholarly, artistic, mercantile Imperial past, and disdain much of the modern present.
    Hence the identification with Classical civilization.

    To the Mainlanders, Overseas Chinese cling to the faded, no, DEAD glories of China’s imperial past, instead of embracing the future. They see Overseas Chinese attitudes as having become frozen in time, and Overseas Chinese thinking as having been orally, and anachronistically, passed down from those original ancestors who left China long ago.

    The old China that the Diaspora left has long since been overtaken by the reality of China itself, a culture that has undergone (and continues to undergo) gut-wrenching change and is firmly fixed on the present. Hence, Mainlanders unconsciously seek to emulate the ethos of Germans, the toughness of Russians and the former confidence of Americans. This is the true, deep Mainland mind-set, if I were to draw useful analogies.

    But this is all normal, really. You can’t have millennia of continuous culture without dynamic tension and creative polarity always under the surface. The revered Past contending with the dynamic Present to create . . . “the Future”. Very Chinese.

    In my view, it’s actually China’s secret sauce.

    • Thanks: utu
    • Replies: @Chinaman
    , @Chinaman
  165. glib says:
    @Alfred

    https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_20_marzo_eng.pdf

    You have been making great use of the (truly important) euromomo site. I appreciate it, because it gets tiring to answer all these irrational, mathematically un-inclined people. In case you are wondering, there is no such site in the USA that I know of. I am fairly certain there will never be one. I have a citation from a UK virologist that there is no excess mortality in China, but no direct data. Anyhow, the evidence is pretty strong with what we have.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @utu
  166. @UK

    or Irish-Americans especially enjoying celebrating St Patrick’s Day or whatever. Anyone offended by either has lost the plot. Notice: no rampant unbalanced over-emotionalism nor extreme callousness in my statement? It is because I am not wrestling with any demons in making it.

    I mean what has to be wrong with someone for them to read about small monies going from a Jewish charity to help some Jews and be outraged…what next?

    OMG, some Jew donated a new set of chairs to a Synagogue?

    Someone else set up a Yiddish library?

    An Italian-American always dreamt of visiting Italy?

    No you’re missing the point. The hypocrisy is outrageous. This is because Zionists/Jews spend a huge amount of their time, resources and energy zealously hectoring whites that any manifestation of our ethnic self-interest is a great evil (“racism”). But they openly and flagrantly flout their own moral law when it comes to their own Jew ethnic-centrism. In fact, they’re the most ethno-centric out of any group.

    It’s a blatant Supremacist strategy. You obviously haven’t clocked this, bit slow.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @UK
  167. Hibernian says:
    @anon

    Whatever you think of the ACLJ (Mostly they do good work, IMHO.) there’s no defense for Soros. he’s never made any positive contribution to the world, in contract to Gates or even Bezos.

  168. cranc says:
    @Joey Pastrami

    In fairness, Unz published the CJ Hopkins piece which is highly sceptical of the generally extreme virus narrative.
    It is rather sloppy though to try and build a case on one writer’s ‘back of an envelope’ estimations, as Karlin (and by extension Striker) have done. What about the overall mortality rates published in Italy (or anywhere else for that matter). They show no significant rise, in fact some are below average for this time of year. This, combined with emerging leaks about how Covid deaths are classified as ‘Covid deaths’, lends weight to the suggestion that ‘the test is the virus’.
    See bottom of this:

    The latest data from the German Robert Koch Institute show that the increase in test-positive persons is proportional to the increase in the number of tests, i.e. in percentage terms it remains roughly the same. This may indicate that the increase in the number of cases is mainly due to an increase in the number of tests, and not due to an ongoing epidemic.

    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest

  169. UK says:
    @last straw

    You should visit the place rather than just reading Godfree Robert’s utterly cringe-worthy propaganda. Make sure you leave Tier 1 areas of Tier 1 cities too. Not that Tier 1 cities aren’t actually entirely soul crushing themselves.

    As for China’s growth in wealth…it is sort of impressive….until you realise how much better the lackadaisical British colonial regime did with the same people and no natural resources in a far shorter period of time.

    Hell, supposedly ZOG degraded America seems to be able to turn random Chinese peasants into Harvard trained world-leading medical experts and researchers in one generation.

    • Replies: @last straw
  170. Trinity says:
    @fatmanscoop

    (((UK))) is a troll. Nuff said. (((Corvinus))) and (((just passing through))) are two others that come to mind. lolol.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  171. UK says:
    @fatmanscoop

    It sounds like you see them as an exact representation of how you want to be. Not as they are. That’s weird.

    • Replies: @fatmanscoop
  172. Tor597 says:
    @Robjil

    Not true.

    Jews may sit atop the pyramid, but they share the power with other white people. Mainly Anglos.

    The ring below that is common gentile whites.

    But that is beside the point. White people have no problem with the whole pyramid/caste game. They just don’t like anyone moving above them.

    Other people in the world don’t understand this concept. They would rather just be regular nation states without trying to fit into a global caste system.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Robjil
    , @Anonymous
  173. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:

    Some Asians posting here are deluded. In America, an Asian male will face the most upfront, aggressive racism from blacks. White people generally tend to ignore you if they don’t like you, but they will leave you alone. However blacks wilI go out of their way to harm you or verbally harass you as an Asian. I despise American blacks to the very core of my being, and just thinking about them puts me in an enraged mood. Arrogant monkeys prancing around like they are worth something, propped up socially by their (((puppetmasters))).

    • LOL: Slimer
    • Replies: @Tor597
  174. cortesar says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Thanks for this detailed response Mario

    My point was that with the crises in Italy is in big part (not in its entirety) provoked by the disfunctionality of the state which has been in making since WW2
    I would like to underline your point about the power, even if CD were in different coalitions in power for the most of the time its main opposition was Communist party (not socialist, nor centrist or whatever) No one serious would ever think of CD as a right wing and being a centrist in Europe is roughly an equivalent of Democrat party of today in USA
    Tho totality of the left which includes parties, unions and most media had dominated Italian politics and life in this period even if never had the official power
    This of course to certain extent was true for all western Europe (Take example of France since De Gaule, they had many “right” governments but the left entirely dominated the country)

    Democracy is a rotten nose counting system in itself but in a combination with a domination of the left creates a totally dysfunctional state which size and disfunctionality are ever increasing simultaneously

    On the plus side Italy has the best authentically right wing/fascist grass movement in Western World
    If the solution is a strong state we know what that means

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Mario Partisan
  175. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @UK

    when in reality the Jewish charity is just especially touched by the suffering of those Jews.

    If it were a Jewish charity from WITHIN Italy, and sourcing its funds purely from local sources, it would simply be a community, no different than say Mormons, looking after their own local (Jewish-Italian) co-religionists.

    But it seems the Jewish charity was based in Israel, and funded from extra-Italian sources, specifically focusing ONLY on Jews in Italy. It then is not about co-religionist countrymen (fellow Italians of a certain faith), but about a specific subset population within Italy, and excluding the majority tribe in said country.

    It then draws a sharp distinction, from OUTSIDE the country no less (within America, Mormons only helping other Mormons would already be very suspect – how much more so if Mormons from outside America were to do the same)?

    It seems to suggest a more fundamental distinction between, (and therefore a difference in affiliation and loyalty among), Jewish-Italians on the one hand, and non-Jewish Italians on the other, that goes far beyond the merely religious.

    • Replies: @UK
  176. utu says:
    @glib

    Euromomo on Covid:

    https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html
    Over the past few days, the EuroMOMO hub has received many questions about the weekly all-cause mortality data and the possible contribution of any COVID-19 related mortality. Some wonder why no increased mortality is observed in the reported mortality figures for the COVID-19 affected countries.

    The answer is that increased mortality that may occur primarily at subnational level or within smaller focal areas, and/or concentrated within smaller age groups, may not be detectable at the national level, even more so not in the pooled analysis at European level, given the large total population denominator. Furthermore, there is always a few weeks of delay in death registration and reporting. Hence, the EuroMOMO mortality figures for the most recent weeks must be interpreted with some caution.

    Therefore, although increased mortality may not be immediately observable in the EuroMOMO figures, this does not mean that increased mortality does not occur in some areas or in some age groups, including mortality related to COVID-19.

    • Replies: @glib
    , @Alfred
  177. Chinaman says:
    @Alden

    It was called the Spanish Flu because the public health services of Spain were the first in the world to notice it was a new and very virulent strain of flu. The Spanish medics and Public Health Service warned the nation about it. The Spanish newspapers reported it.

    Exactly.

    This is an important lesson in public relation for the Chinese. Xi should have thought it through before announcing to the world we are shutting down cuz of virus. Xi should have joined Trump on a conference and jointly declare the coronavirus a hoax.

    Then ask some sick chinaman to go to Palau and spin it from there. All this negative press could have been totally avoided.

    The CCP propagandist sucks and Xi, being a technocrat, is too naive and don’t know how to fan the flames of public opinion.

    • Agree: Tor597
    • LOL: HammerJack
  178. Trinity says:
    @Tor597

    Yeah right. I am FOR EQUALITY FOR ALL AND SPECIAL PRIVILEGES FOR NONE, and I happen to be WHITE, jerkoff. And don’t paint nonwhites as saints. Aztecs weren’t White, the Japanese that butchered Chinese weren’t White, African tribes killing each other aren’t White, Jews slaughtering Palestinians aren’t White IMO, and the brown hordes of Muslims that enslaved White Europeans weren’t White. You are the typical anti-White racist moronic HYPOCRITE.

    I also believe that WHITES HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES JUST LIKE NONWHITES. WHITES DON’T NEED NONWHITES, WE CAN GET ALONG MUCH BETTER WITHOUT YOU. AND THAT ISN’T RACIST, IT IS A FACT.

  179. Alden says:
    @Parbes

    This site has been pushing the theory that American military scientists developed Wuhan virus summer of 2019. Then sent operatives supplied with the virus to Wuhan in early December 2019 who sprinkled the virus around town. UNZ.com’s been pushing that theory for months now.

    There’s no proof whatsoever. Had no military olympics been held in Wuhan, Ron whom I greatly respect, and the ridiculous liar Godfree Roberts would claim some American diplomats, tourists, or business travelers went to Wuhan late last year and sprinkled the virus around the town.

    Here’s a thought of mine

    The huge Chinese population of San Francisco Bay Area and Santa Clara, San Marino and San Gabriel Area California doesn’t seem to be affected much at all. We’re locked down now, but that didn’t happen till the middle of March.

    This year’s Chinese Plague should have been fermenting away in those neighborhoods of recent immigrants and travelers. But it obviously didn’t. Maybe all the great theorists on UNZ can figure out why the Chinese neighborhoods in NYC are so heavily afflicted but the Chinese neighborhoods in California aren’t as far as I know.

  180. Tor597 says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    White people as being creative, and that being the lynch pin to global success is just white cope.

    The truth is, Jews are the most creative people on earth. Then blacks would be next.

    Regular gentile whites are not creative as a trait.

    But go ahead and think that if it makes you feel better.

    • LOL: Trinity
  181. Tor597 says:
    @KenH

    You are brainwashed and an idiot.

    “White people dismantled their colonies”.

    Bullshit.

    White people expanded their colonies. That’s why the US has so many military bases throughout the world.

    It’s called dollar hedgemony. This means that the US can just print money out of thin air and the rest of the world subsidizes this. If a country tries to get out of the dollar, the US overthrows them.

    The only reason the world comes to the west to work is because of money. Not because they like the west or because they have forgotten what you guys have done.

    And the only reason they are invited is because this is how your system is built. By bringing in low wage third worlders you don’t have to colonize the world physically. Instead all the wealth gets transported to your countries.

    • Replies: @JeffF
    , @KenH
  182. Trinity says:
    @Tor597

    Shakespeare, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Mozart, Henry Ford, the Wright Brothers, Tesla, Edison, the list could go on and on.

    Jews HAVEN’T CREATED SHIT BUT LIES. Israel CAN’T EVEN SURVIVE ON ITS OWN WITHOUT EXTORTING MONEY FROM WHITEY. Blacks? Blacks can’t even create decent shelter. lololololol. Eating dung beetles, living in mud huts, defecating in the dirt, oh, forgive me, I forgot Blacks can rap and dance. YOU ARE A MORON.

    • Agree: Mulegino1, Poco
  183. Robjil says:
    @Tor597

    Read the controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed.

    It explains how Top Zionist Jewish advisors pushed for WWI for the Balfour Declaration.

    The same type of people pushed for WWII for Israel.

    Since 9 11, we have WWIII for Eretz Yisrael, Greater Israel. The same type of people are pushing this.

    Those “white” people are order followers of Top Zionist Advisors. Another word for them is Shabbos Goys.

    White Man’s Burden

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4764706

  184. @UK

    It sounds like you see them as an exact representation of how you want to be. Not as they are. That’s weird.

    No I’m telling you a pattern of behaviour I see in them, very straightforward and it clearly manifests.

    Take it or leave it but don’t act like some advocate for them – a little troll that’s desperate to deflect every criticism of them, on their behalf with your silly slogans. That truly is weird.

  185. @Trinity

    (((UK))) is a troll.

    Indeed. His handle “UK” stands for “Undercover Kike”.

  186. utu says:

    Eric Striker’s article is the first one here that tries to look at the political impact of the covid epidemic. How the world will look after the covid epidemic? Will the EU be rearranged, weakened? How about the Globalization project? Will the affairs of the Middle East and Israel be sidelined? How about America vs. China? Is it possible that they epidemic turns out to be the first salvo in the war for the unipolar world under American dominance and does China have a chance to win that war by assuming equal to America status in the world power share? A new bipolar world? Anyway, the world as we knew it might be over.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  187. Robjil says:
    @cortesar

    Italy did not have any Al-Qaeda/Isis events at all since they have been common all over the world since 9 11. Ever wonder why this is so? Operation Gladio was exposed in Italy in 1990. US/NATO was doing terrorism in the Cold War Era in Italy and blaming others. Italians could not be fooled by the new Operation Gladio of the 9 11 era. For this Italy, “must be punished” by the creeps ruling the West. This is what this tragedy in Italy is all about.

    Also Italy was getting too friendly with China. This is big no-no to the creeps ruling the West.

    Here is something about Felice Casson who exposed NATO’s Operation Gladio program in 1990.

    http://frieden-durch-recht.info/gladio-natos-stay-behind-armies-and-terrorism-in-cold-war-italy/

    In order to re-evaluate the terrorist attack which had occurred in the village of Peteano in 1972, Italian judge Felice Casson in January 1990 requested permission from the highest Italian authorities to extend his research to the archives of the Italian military secret service. In July 1990, Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti consented and allowed Casson to research in the archives of Forte Braschi, the headquarters of the Italian military secret service in Rome. This far reaching decision lead to the exposure of Gladio.

  188. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tor597

    They just don’t like anyone moving above them.

    Other people in the world don’t understand this concept. They would rather just be regular nation states without trying to fit into a global caste system.

    What the hell?!? People wanting to just get on with their lives, with no regard to any “racial hierarchy” (or any other such mental construct)?

    THAT is inconceivable!

    (Or pretty NORMAL, really. There, I said it.)

  189. @Tor597

    “…The truth is, Jews are the most creative people on earth. Then blacks would be next.

    Regular gentile whites are not creative as a trait…”

    How true! That’s why Whites from the days of Ancient Greece to the present have created absolutely nothing!

    The Parthenon on the Acropolis was built by Jews (everybody knows that), and the Pyramids were built by Blacks (everybody knows that too).

    Happy now?

  190. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:

    The Chinese have demonstrated deep respect for Roman civilization, marking every humanitarian aid crate with a quote by Seneca: “We are waves of the same sea, leaves of the same tree, flowers of the same garden.

    The Chinese will be pushing their own globalism too, with mantras like this. They love emigration.

  191. Turk 152 says:
    @Trinity

    Turks used to fawn all over anything American and was the CIA doormat in the Middle East. That all came to an end when the Cheney /Bush criminal cabal launched the PNAC doctorine in Iraq.

    Now they are scared they are the next target on ZUS hit list. Most of their foreign policy right now is designed to appease ZUS, while still appearing strong in Muslim countries.

  192. @UK

    Jews are the most racist and ethnocentric people on Earth while complaining about any other country wanting the same!

  193. @ivan

    1.4 billion Chinese and only 65 new infections today….LOL

    IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

    • Replies: @ivan
  194. Chinaman says:
    @Anonymous

    Overseas Chinese seem to regard Mainlanders as a bit brutal and savage, who have demoted Confucius in the pantheon of China, and instead have turned to Laozi, Qin Shi Huang, Sun Tzu, Sun Pin, Han Wudi , Tang Taizong and Hongwu as their guides and mentors. The Mainland Chinese even have ENORMOUS reverence for (horror!) Kublai and Kangxi! Blasphemy under Heaven!

    To the Overseas Chinese, Mainlanders are hopelessly brainwashed hyper-nationalists, putting Zhong Guo (China) above all else. Mainlanders would do the unspeakable

    Your comment reflects a nuanced view that is consistent with reality. I live in Hong Kong and much of the trouble we have here is due to the diaspora mentality you mentioned. But it goes beyond that…Most of the diaspora is descended from Chinese who have self-selected to leave China (for various reasons), there is an evolutionary element in it. Their DNA make-up could have predisposed them to this condescension against mainlanders. The diasporas have to be less patriotic or they or their forebears would have never left China for economic reasons. It makes perfect sense.

    As in any large country, there is going to be a lot of genetic diversity. Han chinese is not that homogenous as people believe. Genghis Khan has forever changed the genetic makeup of the Chinese people as researchers have found a unique genetic marker in China which was introduced in the last 1000 years and coincided with his invasion. I will let you draw your conclusion on what this means.

    “We have identified a Y-chromosomal lineage with several unusual features. It was found in 16 populations throughout a large region of Asia, stretching from the Pacific to the Caspian Sea, and was present at high frequency: ∼8% of the men in this region carry it, and it thus makes up ∼0.5% of the world total. The pattern of variation within the lineage suggested that it originated in Mongolia ∼1,000 years ago. Such a rapid spread cannot have occurred by chance; it must have been a result of selection. The lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and we therefore propose that it has spread by a novel form of social selection resulting from their behavior.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180246/

    Personally, I am above all that. I lived in China, America, Japan, Australia so I think I have the full spectrum of experience. The squabble and dichotomy between overseas Chinese and mainlanders is so trivial and inane. My identity goes beyond the Chinaman and I think of myself as an East Asian. My vision of the glorious Tang dynasty might be a bit different from what you think. It is a confucian cultural sphere that extends beyond geographical boundaries and extends to all the East Asian countries. With the Han-naissance in China, I believe Korea, Japan, Vietnam will all be united under this new East Asian identity as it was 1000 years ago. They will all be Chinaman one day, not by coercion, but as in the identify that white Americans have forged themselves.

    As it is, the “glorious” civilization of Tang\Song continue live on in Japan and in traditional Japanese culture. Almost every year, I go to Nara or Kyoto, Japan to experience what it is like. It might be that Nara becomes the capital of this new East Asia sphere…kind of like what Jerusleum represents to Jew all over the world now. A flight of fantasy of course.

  195. cortesar says:

    Dozens of threads, thousands of words for last few days here about the Great Madness
    How about the summary in 38 seconds

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  196. @Curmudgeon

    I never believe anything either BUT had this virus started anywhere BUT China wouldn’t the Chinese government have been screeching about that since day 1? It makes zero sense whatsoever to keep a lid on a virus that DIDN’T start in your country.

  197. @Ilya G Poimandres

    Yes, eventually Italy and others in the EU will figure out that hating, fearing, and sanctioning Russia, China and others is a dead end. Who is helping them now and who just sits on the sidelines and blabbers the usual hate and fear mongering.

  198. @Ozymandias

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/netherlands-recalled-600-000-coronavirus-090511130.html

    The Netherlands has recalled 600,000 coronavirus face masks it imported from China after discovering they were faulty

  199. Yes, our perfect, wonderful, exceptional leader and very stable genius, greatest in history, …nso on, -move over Rocket Man, has just pulled off the greatest, most unbelievable, …nso on, screw-up of History using the pandemic as another opportunity for doing his perpetual posing routine and acting the tough guy kicking pitiful Iran and Venezuela while’st China & Cuba alienated the affections of the entire (excepting the Oligarchs) world, …so blind in their greed and selfishness. Their loathsomeness evident to all the world affords a real glimmer of hope in these dark days.

  200. @cortesar

    Grazie!

    First, let me say that I have heard Mr. Striker speak fondly of FN several times. He is often a guest on a certain former Louisiana Congressman’s podcast, generally on Thursdays, and has mentioned Compagno Fiore(?) more than once.

    And whatever his shortcomings (we all have them), Mr. Striker’s combination of economic left with cultural right and antiwar positions is a much needed perspective.

    I would agree that the political climate (if not the state) was absolutely towards the left in Italy during the Cold War. But in my view, it was a different left to what we are used to today, especially in America. Most summers my folks and I would return to Italy and visit nonna. Several of her neighbors were vecchi communisti operai, for whom being a communist was not about ideology or virtue signaling, but about daily bread and butter issues. And they were happy about their wives and children going to church even if they chose not to go.

    A point I try to make to folks here at UR is that Left versus Right is obsolete and unhelpful, especially in today’s political climate. To lay the dysfunction of the Italian state at the feet of the Left is a bit unfair. The Left did what it did while operating under a capitalistic economic system in which capital was increasingly mobile, able to escape the unions and the taxation regimes that social democracy requires. As the unions became increasingly weak, the political classes, whether nominally Left or pro-business Right, became increasingly beholden to a transnational oligarchy. For a time, the Left was able to resist the destruction of the social market economy but only by exacerbating the fiscal crisis of the state in the age of runaway capital.

    At this point, the political parties of the establishment are just two sides of the same global capitalist coin. No serious person thinks a Renzi is a leftist; he is a putana of the banks!

    At the end of the day, none of the pet projects of the contemporary left are motivated by genuine socialistic concerns. The immigrant invasions and identity politics benefit the capitalists even if some of their defenders believe themselves to be leftists. It’s all a land of confusion at this point.

    I feel like I am rambling a bit, so I’ll wrap up. My point is that the Old Labor Left that I was taught to love as a kid simply does not exist anymore. What is called the “left” is a whore of (((capital))) and dividing ourselves into a Right team versus a Left team blinds us to the friends on the other team and the enemies on ours.

    Cheers!

    • Agree: utu
    • Thanks: FB
  201. glib says:
    @utu

    oh, give me a break. The hot spots are without a doubt a product of the worst air in Europe (most probably micro-damage to the lungs over decades). But the all-cause mortality is nowhere where it was in 2017, 2018, or 2015 for Europe. It is not where it was for Italy either. I get that the collaboration is under political pressure, and might lose funding over this. Kudos to them for not doctoring their data yet, although I have to look at it when I have a minute, because reports of mass deaths were pouring in two weeks ago too (that is, they may have been forced to change Italy’s color), and yet the map color did not change.

    It is possible that they will have to doctor maps, but so long as they keep their z-graphs honest, we can follow european mortality. BTW, just yesterday a 29-yrs old committed suicide in Turin over losing his job. Is this a CV death? And a supermarket was attacked in Sicily where there has not been excess mortality at all, yet people are under house arrest and running out of money.

    • Replies: @utu
  202. Chinaman says:
    @Anonymous

    Hence, Mainlanders unconsciously seek to emulate the ethos of Germans, the toughness of Russians and the former confidence of Americans. This is the true, deep Mainland mind-set, if I were to draw useful analogies.

    Confucianism was a breeding program and over two millennia, it has molded the Chinese people into their current genotype. 105 IQ, 10% lower testosterone than whites and K-selected. I am a firm believer in the biological realities of race and I will say it is futile and even crazy to emulate other races. The Japanse have incorporated every element of western culture into their own culture but their society is still Confucian or should I say Chinese at its core. That’s who they are.

    Having said that, the political philosophy of Confucius, or at least some elements in it, is essentially a system which put everyone in their proper social caste in order to preserve “harmony” and the status quo, this is the reason every emperor in China’s history have encourage its study to brainwash people into not challenging its authority. Mao exposes this system of oppression for what it is. Conflict, not harmony bring about social progress in most cases. But look what happened when Mao tried to change that status quo. It was an unmitigated disaster.

    A modern evolution of Confucianism is the only way forward since that was the cultural environment that the Chinese have adapted to but I will say that is a lot we should not recycle from the dustbin of history when it comes to confucian…

    • Replies: @aandrews
    , @anon
  203. @Z-man

    There you go again with your pretense that China owes Italy reparations. You’ve even learnt to spell the word now. China does not. When was the last war between China and Italy?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  204. Hibernian says:
    @cortesar

    What does the street preacher think about her not staying home?

    • Replies: @cortesar
  205. utu says:
    @glib

    “The hot spots are without a doubt a product of the worst air in Europe” – IDIOT

    • Replies: @glib
  206. German_reader says:
    @utu

    Will the EU be rearranged, weakened?

    Italians and Spaniards are apparently currently whipping themselves into a frenzy that their misfortune is all Germany’s fault (and to a lesser degree that of other Northerners like Dutch and Finns), because of the refusal to grant Coronabonds. I read some readers’ comments on Italian websites yesterday…”interesting” sentiments one sees there (e.g. one expressed his hope that the virus would be deadlier in Germany and exterminate la brutta razza; also lots of the usual Nazi accusations). I had a discussion with an Italian on another website who complained bitterly about “selfish” Northerners and said Italy might now look towards its “true friends” Russia and China. When I asked him what Italy had ever done for Germany, he told me “all of Europe” had shown solidarity with Germany during reunification and enabled the 1:1 exchange of the GDR Mark for West German currency, lol.
    Salvini is apparently making a lot of anti-EU noises, so who knows, maybe the EU will break apart.

    • Replies: @gkruz
    , @utu
    , @Catiline
    , @Malla
    , @Dumbo
  207. @Johnny Smoggins

    And considering the tribute the rest of the world pays to Israel, any charity Israel gives to anyone ultimately comes from the goyim.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  208. aandrews says:
    @Chinaman

    Interesting comment.

    Posted at Drudge, the wellspring of all truth…

    Coronavirus Crisis Awakens a Sleeping Giant: China’s Youth
    March 28, 2020

    Students have flooded social media to organize donations for Chinese doctors battling the coronavirus epidemic. Workers have marched in the streets to demand compensation for weeks of unemployment during citywide lockdowns. Young citizen journalists have taken to YouTube to call for free speech.

    The coronavirus outbreak has mobilized young people in China, sounding a call to action for a generation that had shown little resistance to the ruling Communist Party’s agenda.

    […]

  209. JeffF says:
    @Tor597

    My first time commenting – that’s just too outrageous. We are importing welfare cases and criminals into the West, or at best importing job-taking H1Bs (both with the purpose of harming the white populations), not “transporting wealth.”

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  210. Tor597 says:
    @Trinity

    Asians can’t create a first world nation without the aid of the white man? Lol

    How bout white people show they can mount a proper pandemic defense better than say Haiti.

    Then we will talk.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  211. gkruz says:
    @Chief Ambassador to the Clockwork Elves

    China will never restore authentic nationhood back to anyone let alone Western nations. It is not theirs to restore, it is ours. And they are not liberators, they are imperialist racist supremacists pouncing upon their chance to dominate the world. And I do believe they are still a communist country built upon the mass graves of millions of their own people, no? I cannot believe the level of induced delusion on this website on the true nature of the Red Dragon. Anyone who seriously believes the Chinese love us or our civilization needs to be quarantined for a mental virus. Admittedly, it is sometimes difficult trying to cull the deluded from the actual Chinese shills that inhabit this site, but it is plain that Unz has become an official Chinese propaganda outlet. How much they paying you, Ron?

  212. Tor597 says:
    @anon

    Not true.

    White people are the biggest threat to Asians in America, not blacks and it isn’t close. This is just white people trying to divide and conquer and blame black people for hate crime.

    Black people are the biggest threat be attacked. But that goes for everyon, not just asians.

  213. gkruz says:
    @German_reader

    You might also recall how Italy twice, in two world wars, stabbed their German ally in the back and ran on their knees to beg the Allied powers to take them back. (In the case of the second war, the hardcore fascists who fought to the bitter end even after Il Duce was betrayed and murdered are exempt from the shame.)

    • Replies: @Catiline
  214. @Tor597

    our elites

    They are not our elites, they are globalist elites. They don’t give a hoot about America. If existing laws were applied to them properly, they should all be executed for high treason.

  215. Not a very original observation I know but Soros to me is the Devil incarnate.

  216. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Having abnormally low testosterone is not a sign of a healthy vigorous race. I would gladly trade a slightly lower IQ for more testosterone, since this world is all about survival of the strongest and aggressive.

    • Replies: @Pft
    , @Malla
  217. @Nonny Mouse

    When was the last war between China and Italy?

    Not only that. The last country that attacked Italy was … the US.

  218. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Thanks. While I am not surprised by what people are venting I am still sad to hear it. Under pressure and when in fear people are vulnerable and irrational. Personally I want to hope that this will lead to constructive restructuring of the EU and strengthening its unity and resolve vis a vis USA, China and Russia. Europe must wake up. Assert itself. Make EU great again! Economically strong without dissipating resources on enforcing the cultural Marxism gleichschaltung. And you Germans should appreciate Italians and Greeks more as they might be the ones who will be instrumental in changing the posture of Europe on immigration and thus might save Germany form itself and Europe in general.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  219. glib says:
    @utu

    Here is the link

    I wish you could ignore me. Intellectually you are a type of follower and I prefer not to talk to people like you. You don’t even understand that overall mortality has to be affected by a pandemic. You don’t even understand that authorities did nothing recently on bigger mortality waves. You can not reason quantitatively and you can’t read and interpret data.

    Before I ignore you myself, would you care to estimate the probability that hot spots coincide exactly with extreme air pollution? I think you can limit yourself to particulate matter. Make an effort, although I understand that Tehran and Wuhan air quality data may be hard to come by.

  220. UK says:
    @Anonymous

    I have no idea how you can be upset by this.

  221. Catiline says:
    @German_reader

    Confindustria and the big banks are with Germany and the EU. You can’t govern Italy without their support. Ignore the internet rabble.

  222. @UK

    Israel and its zionist masters have bled Europe for holohoax money for 50 years. They exist only as long as they control American policy. One day we may get a real man in office, that will call a spade a spade, and end our largess, our annual billions, and miltary support for that shit hole nation. Then take them down for 911, the USS Liberty, JFK, WW1 & 2, and a dozen other capital crimes. After which, it will dry up like the Negev desert, and blow away to disappear into eternity.

  223. cortesar says:
    @Hibernian

    I guarantee you that that question never crossed the mind of that bitch
    Once you allow emotion and hysteria driven females to access any level of power (including voting) you signed your sentence
    These days you can clearly see what the sentence is
    There will never be a sane rational masculine society, culture and civilization before these creatures are driven back into their natural habitat, kitchen that is

  224. Trinity says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Good point. Those (((parasites))) aren’t giving shit to anyone even (((themselves.))) America gives Israel at MINIMUM 3.8 BILLION dollars per year AND FOR WHAT? Those (((leeches))) even get America to fight and die in their wars. When are countries like Germany and America going to stop sending money to Israel? What exactly do we as Americans gain by kissing Israel’s ass?

  225. anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    I have personally sent medical supplies, masks, disinfectant to my Italian friends and I shall offer my hand to my UNZ buddies here too even the white nationalists who yearn for my demise and China’s fall. Let me know if anyone desperately need help.

    Jack Ma, is that you?

    America needs help.

    I sense some subtly concealed schadenfreude here, and all the whitrash racist scum seem to take your virtue signalling seriously. Lol!

    Let me take this opportunity to directly say this to those who have caused this pestilential terror around the world… you godless soulless dietary terrorists are disgusting lowlifes, who will be the death of mankind.

    There are those who cause some pinprick levels of terror because of the oppression they face, but you manimals, even given the abundance of clean healthy food which God has offered mankind, has to eat any wild thing, causing such pestilences to fester and terrorise mankind to extinction.

    If there is any urgent need for reeducation camps, it is for your mofing race, which consumes just about anything under the sun.

    • Troll: Biff
    • Replies: @Chinaman
  226. Trinity says:
    @Tor597

    China was turd world shithole just a few decades ago, jerkoff. Little Chinese kids running around with their butt crack exposed so they can squat and drop a deuce right in the street or in a dug out hole like some kind of alley cat. Asians COPY, Whites CREATE. FACTS. DEAL WIT IT, Shlomo. Yes, I said Shlomo because you are another (((troll.)))

    • Replies: @Tor597
  227. @anon

    WOW! ALL THE POSTS TO THIS ONE HATES cHINA! are there more?

    are the Chinese that ‘rosy’ or is this a Chinese hating site..or more particualrly a Chinese-hating thread?

    • Replies: @Trinity
  228. anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tor597

    Your elites are simply a reflection of the common man’s morality, or its lack thereof.

    You keep electing the same evil incarnates, and then you voice deceit that they do not speak for you.

    You will all answer to the Almighty One, and I promise you it will be hard.

    • Replies: @anon8383892
  229. Catiline says:
    @gkruz

    There was no stab in the back. If anything Germany/Austria were lousy “allies” and they got exactly what they deserved from Italy. Wiedersehen.

    • Replies: @gkruz
  230. Rubicon says:
    @Theophrastus

    Thank YOU, Eric Striker for composing the article about Italy. Most commenters here don’t have even the slightest idea about Italy, its people and its ancient land.

    I have close friends in Italy, who are highly educated and extremely well- informed individuals.

    Despite the deeply respected contributions from Russia, China, Cuba, Venequela, and even little Albania, my friends ALL say, the wholesale financial destruction of Italy imposed by the EU/German/US “austerity measures” have wrought immense difficulties in Italy. Now take onto the Coronavirus and you have almost insurmountable difficulties.

    The most poverty-ridden areas of Italy is Southern Italy. We’re starting to see riots and protests down there.
    Meantime, what does the bought-off Italian goverment offer: 400 million euros to bring food, and money to all of Italy. It’s a drop in the bucket.

    Friends there say, Italy is set to be a powderkeg, ready to blow up. We pray Russia, or China might loan Italy at least 100 Billion Euros before greater destruction and violence rules the day.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  231. @cortesar

    1. YES…I care more about Italy than any other country in the World. I love all things Italian and most especially all things ROMAN. I am almost certainly a Roman from a former life since I’ve been attracted to Roman things since I was about 9 years old. I’m now 77.
    2. Yes I’ve been to Italy numerous times and can’t wait to go again.
    3. I’m not the least bit concerned or interested about Italy’s recent political leanings. To me it is the land of the Caesars and SPQR works just as well today as it did in the time of Augustus.
    4. I’ve never waited long enough to ever matter for a train. The plaza in front of the station offers
    plenty of entertainment in people watching.

    A statue of Augustus sits on my desk and looks at me every day and has for 50 years. No other place on Earth matters to me more than Rome. Hail Caesar!!

    • Agree: Catdomnj
  232. Trinity says:
    @ben sampson

    Most of the Chinese haters are (((trolls))) and the over the top Chinese Supremacists like (((Tor597))) & (((Chinaman))) are as well. These (((trolls))) are about as Oriental as Cryin’ Chuck Schumer.

    The old divide and conquer m.o. Its like the instigating little scrawny weakling kid provoking two big guys to fight each other. Blame China instead of the REAL CULPRIT.

    • Replies: @Malla
  233. @UK

    The only person who appears to be upset is you, with your long and repeated insults referring to anyone who criticizes hypocritical jewish behavior as “loons”. How old are you? Are you having fun?

    • Disagree: UK
  234. Seraphim says:
    @anon

    Nothing new. The ‘world’, sometimes called ‘the international community’ (Comintern) which hates ‘more and more’ China (and Russia) is just the islands of the ‘Nova Atlantis’ or ‘Oceania’ (i.e. ‘Airstrip One’, formerly known as England, and its colonies) which like the Atlantis of yore tries in vain to conquer the ‘Continent’. It will, like the Atlantis of yore, sink.

  235. German_reader says:
    @utu

    And you Germans should appreciate Italians and Greeks

    I’d actually say Italians, Greeks and Spaniards are seen far too positively in Germany. Most Germans are naive and don’t realize the extent of outright hatred (no other word would be appropriate imo) for Germans in those countries, with all the usual tropes of Germans being eternal Nazis, heartless barbarians etc. (while Mediterraneans have apparently always been paragons of humanity…even when they dropped poison gas on recalcitrant natives like the Italians and Spanish once did, something they conveniently forget unlike Germany’s ever-present crimes). I do, and I don’t have any patience for it anymore. When Spaniards elect a crazy leftist government that holds mass feminist demonstrations on 8 March (!) because Covid-19 is only a minor threat compared to misogyny, the resulting disaster isn’t Germany’s fault, and a slimy socialist like Sanchez then going on about Coronabonds is merely a cynical manoeuvre to deflect anger on an external actor. So while I’m in favour of humanitarian aid during the present crisis (and that’s already a big concession imo, since Covid-19 cases are still steadily rising in Germany too and nobody knows how much it will escalate), accepting Coronabonds and the like is unacceptable. If it breaks the EU, fine, good riddance, I don’t care about a union with people who hate me anyway. Italians and other Meds can go take their chances with Trump’s America (maybe enlist as cannon fodder for the coming war with Iran) or China.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @utu
    , @glib
    , @Seraphim
    , @Catiline
  236. @Tor597

    I can’t believe in the midst of America collapsing totally, our elites still are trying to overthrow the governments of Iran and Venezuela.

    White people expanded their colonies. That’s why the US has so many military bases throughout the world.

    It’s called dollar hedgemony. This means that the US can just print money out of thin air and the rest of the world subsidizes this. If a country tries to get out of the dollar, the US overthrows them.

    First, let me say that I like your anti-imperialist comments. The fact that “our” elites are trying to overthrow Iran and Venezuela while badmouthing China and Russia (are Russians white?) during a supposed “pandemic” is insane.

    And yes the US has many military bases around the world to protect dollar hegemony.

    But this is where my sympathy with your comments on this thread ends and where the criticism will begin.

    I suspect that while you voice opposition to US imperialism, you are not actually motivated by genuine opposition to imperialism, but simply opposition to “White Imperialism.” It seems to me that you are an Asian supremacist. Consider your response to Johnny Smoggins:

    White nationalists do not like East Asians. They see East Asians as an existential threat because unlike Blacks, Arabs, Latinos we could actually replace white people at the top of the pyramid.

    East Asians trigger the worst from white people because as the white race is declining they can see East Asia growing in power.

    White people have a pathological desire to see everyone below them.

    Mr. Smoggins was extending an olive branch to you and expressing a view that is not uncommon among so-called white nationalists, namely that they view East Asians as natural friends. Not only do you reject his olive branch, but you then go on to accuse him of not liking you and then proceed to pathologize all white people.

    When one accuses someone of hatred and then proceeds to reject the proclamation of innocence, it is indicative to me of projection. Simply put, it seems you hate white people.

    What I want to do is to try and correct some of your misconceptions.

    [MORE]

    1) Life on planet earth has been a struggle since day one. Fighting and conquering others is something every ethnic group has done at some point in history. No one has clean hands.

    2) “Race” is real and also an abstraction. It is a way of grouping people based on varying degrees of genotypic and/or phenotypic commonality, with the boundaries of the different races determined by how stringent the investigator wants to be.

    3) Following #2 there is no such thing as “White People.” Not too long ago anyone going around suggesting that the English, the Scots, the Irish, the Celts, the Slavs, the Sicilians, etc were all part of the same group would have been laughed out of the room. To this day, northern and southern Italians can’t decide if they belong in the same group.

    4) The current anti-white cultism in American society purposefully avoids acknowledging such nuance because it would undermine the whole agenda. The idea that the starving Irish who got of a boat and were sent to die for the Union were oppressing anybody is disgustingly insulting.

    5) That said, when people of various European stocks find themselves under propaganda assault for being “White” they come to identify with each other and they come into existence. As I say to Tribe Inc apologists who claim Palestinians don’t exist: thanks to you, they do now!

    In short, your entire approach is lacking in nuance. You lump all white people together and then proceed to accuse them of being uniquely guilty of behavior that is pretty universal throughout history. You are either dumb, lazy or dishonest. Which one is it?

    Now, in some comments you demonstrate some nuance, but only when pressed:

    Jews may sit atop the pyramid, but they share the power with other white people. Mainly Anglos.

    Oh boy! Are you an anti-semite? I mean not only are you accusing Jews of being white, you are suggesting that they are at the top of the pyramid. Be careful what you say or the Jews are going to use their nonexistent power to totally wreck your life. Trust me, I’ve been on the receiving end of their lack of power.

    Here’s the thing: if Jews sit at the top of the pyramid, who do you think is directing the attacks against Iran, Venezuela, China and whoever else?

    You correctly identified dollar hegemony as a key goal of US imperialism, so let me expand on this topic.

    The foreign policy of the US is all about one thing: OIL = Oil + Israel + Liquidity. There is a reason many writers use the term Anglo-Zionist Empire.

    The current vitriol being directed against China has nothing to do with Trump being a White Nationalist. It is because China’s rise is an obstacle to the Anglo-Zionist Empire. Trump is not a White Nationalist; he just pretends to be for the Red State proles. He is a Zio-puppet.

    The entire political establishment bashes Christian Russia 24/7. How does that fit with your schema?

    Furthermore, you accuse white people of being the ultimate racists and of running American society. How can both of those things be true when the media and academia are openly hostile to whites? Either one or both are not true.

    There have some reviews on this site of Dutton’s Race Differences in Ethnocentrism. Scientific study seems to indicate Euros are inherently less racist than most other groups.

    I mean your whole approach seems to indicate the opposite of what you claim. If whites are so in charge and are so racist, why is it that the only group you feel like demonizing in this thread is whites. You acknowledge that Jews are at the top, but you praise them.

    Fact is, whether you consciously acknowledge it or not, you know (((they))) are in charge and that they can pretty much crush anyone they want.

    Conversely you know white people have no political power as a group and that is why you can safely use us as a punching bag.

    In short, you are a just a hate-consumed coward.

    • Replies: @UK
    , @Tor597
  237. @Chinaman

    You and china both need help…with arithmetic.
    China has never reported a number that bears any semblance to reality.
    Now China wants to run around ‘helping’ other nations?
    Give us a break yellow man.
    Pull that giant urn out of you eye.

  238. Pft says:
    @anon

    Thats what the neanderthals said, and what happened to them?. They no longer exist except as part of our DNA due to crossbreeding

    In today world, cognitive function. counts way more than physical strength. Machines and robots do the heavy lifting.

    In fact, those with physical strength and low IQ are no longer needed except for entertainment (sports or sexual). They are todays neanderthal, out of place in a technocratic world soon to be replaced by AI and robotics.

    Either a culling or tighter reproduction management (sterility) will take care of us neanderthals

    And BTW, todays 25 yo Caucasian has testosterone levels only half what they were 50 years ago. Fertility rates among Caucasians are below replacement levels.
    All of the Population growth the last 30 years in the US are from increases in immigration and immigration/African Americans higher fertility rates, which is why the percentage of native Caucasians in the population is shrinking.

    • Replies: @Plato's Dream
  239. utu says:
    @German_reader

    ” I do, and I don’t have any patience for it anymore.” – You must find some strength within to have more patience and weather it. Don’t let them drive you crazy. You don’t want to end up in Neonazi party where almost every body is an agent provocateur. Cool heads will prevail in the long run. In the meantime watch Verdi operas and Fellini movies and read Malaparte or Italo Svevo.

    While the resentment is partly driven by envy (you can ask the Jews) it is exacerbated by political-cultural dominance that Germany exerts via the EU. Perhaps, you Germans, should stick to what you are good at (building and producing in the realm of the tangibles) instead of pushing on others what you suck at, i.e., the realm of intangibles with your way too easy easy subservience to all kinds of ideologies that you reify and try to import into the realm of tangibles and the push them down the throats of others.

    Avoid them if they bother you so much as you have managed to avoid some stupid Russkies at Karlin’s.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  240. FB says: • Website
    @Mario Partisan

    What a very fine comment Mario…very insightful, and I believe, exactly factual…

    You do realize of course that you are talking mostly to unwashed ignoramuses here…LOL

    • Thanks: Mario Partisan
  241. glib says:
    @German_reader

    This does not matter much. Italy’s future is the Silk Road. If these differences are too vast Germany and Italy will go their separate ways. If you have seen the video of the italian guy replacing the euro flag (the blue one with stars in a circle) with the russian flag, you know that is coming, possibly in our lifetime. In Veneto, for example, I think they are ready now.

  242. Seraphim says:
    @German_reader

    Why the Greeks, Spaniards, Italians (and some many other) never liked too much the Germans (long before they became Nazis)?

    • Replies: @German_reader
  243. Kim says:
    @Anonymous

    China would never allow fentanyl to be illegally shipped to the United States!

    The Chinese people love children and family life!

    The CCP is the friend of the American people and is not working to destroy America!

    Ever hear about the Chinese melamine milk powder scandal?

    The 2008 Chinese milk scandal was a significant food safety incident in China. The scandal involved milk and infant formula along with other food materials and components being adulterated with melamine. Of an estimated 300,000 victims in China, six babies died from kidney stones and other kidney damage and an estimated 54,000 babies were hospitalized.

    Note that this quote is from wikipedia, which you can sure is regularly patrolled to ensure that the reporting of the effects of these sinful acts are minimized.

    • Agree: Kal
  244. Kim says:
    @fatmanscoop

    Passive aggression is a cornerstone of the Chinese social style and personality.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  245. Anon[544] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The test kits were used wrongly. After the initial diagnosis and they started to follow the correct procedure, the test kits worked fine.

  246. Chinaman says:
    @anonymous

    Thanks, I agree with your sentiments.

    Those “godless soulless dietary terrorists lowlifes” include you too…

    You probably eat a lot weird shit I would never eat. Pig knuckles and sausages ? Do you know how it is made? Do you know there is a little bit of cow shit in the milk you drink everyday. Yuck!

    I am Vegan! Goddamnit.

    Without knowing anything me, you see the pseudonym chinaman and immediately project a bunch of your preconceived notions and biases on me. That’s fine but you need to know 1.4 billion is a lot of chinaman. A lot more diversity than you can fathom. There are Jack Ma and there are Bat eating scums. I will be the first to murder that batman motherfucker if he is ever found…except he most likely doesn’t exist. They can eat cockroaches and rats but bats is not on the menu.

    Take your frustration elsewhere.

  247. German_reader says:
    @utu

    You don’t want to end up in Neonazi party where almost every body is an agent provocateur.

    I’m not sure I want to end up in any party at all anymore anyway, I’m seeing myself more and more as an observer alienated from everything. Politics is useless without some kind of cultural regeneration anyway.

    it is exacerbated by political-cultural dominance that Germany exerts via the EU.

    Obviously Germany has a lot of economic influence, and I can see how that leads to certain resentment…but “political-cultural dominance”, that’s entirely at odds with the perception within Germany itself. Many Germans are convinced that Merkel’s government is continuously selling out German interests, letting Draghi and now Lagarde run the ECB for the benefit of France and Italy, with German savers being dispossessed by extremely low interest rates, and that all our “wealth” (not that great anyway for most Germans) will be destroyed in the inevitable collapse of the Euro system, due to all the obligations Merkel’s government has already taken up (therefore the reluctance to add even more to that through Coronabonds). I’m not saying this perspective is 100% correct, but I do find it irritating that this perception of many Germans isn’t understood at all abroad.
    As for German cultural influence, it’s non-existent imo. There’s no cultural soft power at all like with Japan’s anime and manga culture.

    Avoid them if they bother you so much as you have managed to avoid some stupid Russkies at Karlin’s.

    Obviously I disagree with many of the views of AK and some of his readers, but I’ve gotten the disturbing impression that, despite the very bitter legacy of WW2, the average Russian doesn’t hate Germany as much as many of our European “friends” and “partners” who have been in the EU for decades. imo that indicates that the European project has failed completely.

  248. Gzibordi says: • Website
    @anon

    The Chinese in Lombardy brought the epidemic to us in italy You idiot

  249. @anonymous

    That’s just it, we (Americans) are collectively responsible for — not so much, who we elect, as what we ignore and are therefore complicit in. This includes great events like Kennedy assassination and 9/11, which could not have gone over had the aggregate citizenry not rolled over for it and pretended like it didn’t happen (in both those cases we’ve got solid evidence of a ‘deep-state’ crime), but also a myriad of other crimes, deceptions, idiocies (including those that result in the destruction of other nations and millions of human lives), pathologies we’ve become accustomed to accepting as the American way (they are not). How many in America have been deluded my Mammon into participating in the financial deceptions, the rentier (parasitic) style of making a living, etc. One could argue, and it is true to some extent, that Americans have been bred into a weak, stupid, and mindlessly conformist mob, but this doesn’t change the karmic score for being complicit in the aforementioned crimes and chicanery. Tragic.

  250. Matra says:

    On the other hand, China has been exemplary in aiding Italy and Europe as a whole.

    Is it possible for these low IQ wignats to get any more repulsive?

    BTW Striker made a right ass of himself in that David Irving debate. At this point the wignats might as well be Hasbara.

  251. German_reader says:
    @Seraphim

    Don’t know, maybe for the same reasons few people like Romania?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  252. Avery says:
    @Tor597

    {White people have never learned to be in harmony with other people and to exist within a plurality.}

    Apparently it was the white people who colonized, subjugated, enslaved…Koreans, Chinese, Philippines,….and all this time I thought it was the Imperial Japanese.

    And apparently it was thems evil “white people” who were responsible for the Rape of Nanjing: and all this time the white propaganda blamed the Imperial Japanese troops.

    Regarding ‘…. to be in harmony with other people…… ‘: is that why neither Taiwan (Chinese) nor Hong Kong (Chinese) want to be ruled by Beijing (Chinese) ?
    Apparently Chinese people themselves have a hard time being in harmony with themselves.

    One last thing: I heard a rumor that there is an ongoing non-harmony between China, Taiwan, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam, concerning “ownership” of the Spratly Islands. As far as I know none of those countries are populated by non-harmony evil whites. But I could be wrong.

  253. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    Include the word ‘parasite’ and it’s spot on.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  254. Mefobills says:
    @JeffF

    It is called labor arbitrage.

    You bring in poor turd world people and that then lowers wages.

    If you are a holder of capital, where capital is in the form of money, plant, and equipment – then you can arbitrage their labor. That means you want to keep the cost of labor down, while still selling your goods at the highest prices possible, then slicing off the top profits for yourself.

    Capital also exports jobs to places like China and Vietnam, while turning around and exporting goods back to the U.S. at just under the American price. This then displaces industry and patrimony from America while creating a finance plutocracy.

    H1B immigrants are the tech sector, which fancies itself as internationalists bringing in Indian workers. This then lowers wages for American programmers and other IT people.

    The College racket is to put students in debt, so they can then get their IT degree, which prices them out of the market, making Indians even more desirable to traitorous high tech american employers.

    Dollar hegemony is operative. The idea is private banking federal reserve notes (dollars) as capital can float anywhere in the world, to then price “other countries” assets in dollars, or to attach dollar debts to other countries.

    The entire construct is very Jewish, and the first trail run of this sort of system was in the Greek Levant period, where it used shipping around the Mediterranean to move goods and engage in piracy. The international money used in those days was silver, and debt instruments were clay tablets.

    Greece ended up collapsing, and Greek farmers ended up as slaves. Solon’s reforms were due to the debt mechanics that enslaved the Greeks.

    Importing labor also happened in Roman times as Rome turned into an finance then landed feudal Oligarchy, like the U.S. is becoming now.

    tor597 is correct

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Kal
  255. A123 says:

    France and Germany, two of the European Union’s largest manufacturers, have heavily restricted the export of medical supplies. The economic liberalization EU countries must endure to join the bloc has destroyed Italian economic independence due to Germany and France swamping neighboring markets with exports. Lesson learned. 67% of Italians now believe membership in the European Union is useless

    The EU was a mistake:

    — Did the EU help Cypus? No.
    — Has the EU helped Greece with finances or immigration? No.
    — Is the EU trying to overthrow democracy in Poland and Hungary? Yes.

    This Italian gentleman is making the point in a vivid way.


    ____

    Even worse the EuroZone [EZ] common currency was intentionally rigged to favor German exporters. And, it is a vicious trap. Italy cannot leave the EZ as all long term private contracts would remain denominated in €.

    The solution is to force Germany out of the EZ. Defy the Globalist Controlled, Frankfurt based, submissive ECB. The Germans can be sent fleeing for the exits in one easy step:

    Italian “Euro € printer go brrrrr….”

    Too bad Salvini is not in office. This solution will have to be delivered later.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  256. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @UK

    Maybe a somewhat simplistic analogy will illustrate the (enormous) problem.

    You live in a small town. It really doesn’t matter whether it is upscale or downscale. The point is, it is a place where all residents cooperate for mutual benefit, whatever may come. Therein is the unspoken social compact.

    Your neighbors treat you as family, as they treat everyone else in the town. Their only requirement? That everyone in the town reciprocate the treatment they receive, including you.

    In good times, there’s no issue. Your children walk the safe streets, you drive the nice roads, the neighborhood watch keeps everybody’s homes secure. The small town functions as a large family.

    Hard times come – VERY hard times. But the town pulls together, works together. Your neighbors receive support from outside the town, (from some funny/strange looking people from a long way away), but their attitude is, what is theirs is also yours, since you are their family, and they are yours.

    You also get support from outside the town, but SUDDENLY, your attitude is that the support you get is YOURS ALONE. You do not reciprocate the familial actions of your neighbors! YOU HAVE BROKEN FAITH WITH YOUR OWN NEIGHBORS, IN TIME OF GREAT NEED, NO LESS.

    You have made it clear that, in truth, you were never part of the family – not where it counted, not in your HEART. You have DECEIVED them, and BETRAYED their solemn trust.

    That is an extremely serious matter.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @lavoisier
  257. @UK

    “ Some small country from the middle east“

    What you call a small country is a country whose land Is the stolen land of Palestine. They are still stealing neighbouring land (The Golan Heights from Syria and Shaba farm lands from Lebanon) and plan to steal more and more lands from other Arab countries.

    This “small country” is armed to the teeth with ultra modern weapons of mass destruction including nuclear weapons that they manufacture in the Dimona plant In the Negev. This “country” also possesses multitudes of biological weapons.

    This “small country” Has powerful lobbies in the West especially the US which allows it to control the Congress and to use the US army by proxy to achieve its strategic aims and satisfy its colonial appetites.

    Do you want me to go on …?

    • Replies: @UK
  258. Twaddle.

    The EU has been organizing continent wide sharing of production since February. The EU has no health workers to send because health is a national competence.

    Czech customs seized 650,000 Chinese masks en route to Italy. The EU reminded them of their mistake.

    There aer 100,000 chinese citizens in Northern Italy. That is why the Chinese are there. Some of Russia’s richest citizens are stuck in their skiing lodges. And the Russians, who have a well emergency situations team, want a look at what is coming. I will give you Cuba as altruistic.

    You should be ashamed of relaying this propaganda narrative which I have seen elsewhere. It is just the usual RT fanned Europhobia.

  259. @Anonymous

    1) it’s hardly reached Russia yet. Too early to say a non existent infection has been handled well. officially there is not yet community transmission only incoming foreigners.

    2) As of today, the British Government has received information that suggests China has understated its case rate by 15 to 40 times(!).

    This is just Europhobic propganda written by an idiot.

  260. @UK

    Are you stilled bewildered why people on this site find the Zio-NGO direction of aid to only their racial in-group in Italy to be distasteful?

    Let me try to explain it to you. First, for the folks around here, it is not an example considered in a vacuum. It is considered in the context of a long line of ethnocentric behavior in which they are all-important and the goyim are…well, goyim.

    There are a number of distasteful elements to this story.

    1) Italian Jews are citizens of Italy. They receive assistance from the Italian government as well as assistance given to Italy from foreign nations.

    2) The Zio-NGO is giving aid only to Italian Jews. So Italian Jews are getting aid from all of the sources regular Italian shkotzim are getting aid…and then some.

    3) This further underlines the point that Jews are citizens of the world’s nations only on paper. They may live in Milan, or Rome, or London, or Los Angeles, but they do not identify with the nations in which they reside. They identify as Jews. It is once again a middle finger to their goyim cattle neighbors.

    4) Suppose an Italian-American Catholic charity was organizing assistance to Italy and said But Only for Catholics! And definitely not for deniers of Christ! You better believe we’d be hearing about such vile anti-semitism.

    5) Suppose the Chinese were organizing aid packages but only to Chinese individuals residing in Italy. You like to bash China, right? Don’t tell me you wouldn’t jump on that one.

    Look, I can tell you that in the US there are numerous state laws, and bills being considered at the federal level, in which US citizens must sign documents saying they oppose boycotting Israeli products as a precondition for employment with the state.

    In other words, the Jewish power structure is so entrenched that the “American” government is actually telling its people: don’t boycott a foreign nation or your own government will boycott you. Things like this are evaluated in that context.

    The fact of the matter is: those gentiles around here who find the Jew-only aid to be distasteful are, in a way, welcoming Jews. They are saying: please stop treating yourselves as separate and above us. Please become part of our nations, where you reside, on par with the rest of us.

    What we gentiles have found since time immemorial is that Jews reject communion with us. In fact, that is the foundation of Judaism: rejection of those lacking divine blood.

    We are sick of this crap and we are right to be. Either be part of us or don’t, but don’t try to have your matzo ball and eat it too.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  261. Iris says:

    the Turkish government went out of its way to maliciously confiscate 200,000 masks purchased by Italy in early March, with no refund.

    Even better : the Czech Republic, an EU member, has stolen 680,000 masks sent by China to Italy to help fight the pandemic.

    The Czech government first denied the misappropriation, until a whistleblower called Lukas Lev Cervinka sent photos and videos of the shipping clearly marked with the Italian and Chinese flags, and the “Chinese humanitarian help to Italy” phrase.

    https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/la-republique-tcheque-a-soustrait-680-000-masques-et-respirateurs-destines-a-l-italie-20200322?fbclid=IwAR1wC0PlTsi9PYUoeKd9_jLZRc8h8zyJpK7ZLxaCCTc18Yw1vQoWkHADCxY

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Anonymous
  262. @Ilya G Poimandres

    The richest country in the SCO is poorer per capita than the poorest country than the EU. Russia has had a policy to match Portugal since 2004. Still trying.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  263. tac says:
    @Chinaman

    There appears to have been two major ‘waves’ of global infection, the first around the end of January, the second a month later. (2) (3) (4)

    It is true that – in the very early stages, the first wave – 22 countries had their first confirmed infections in travelers from China but, soon after this, in the second wave, 34 countries obtained their first confirmed infection in travelers from Italy, and another 16 from Iran. However, so-called “first infection” in these countries, from Chinese citizens or other travelers, proved in all but perhaps two cases to be irrelevant because these first external infections proved to have no links to the subsequent local outbreaks, and because the virus strain in many of those explosive local eruptions did not exist in China but only in the US.

    What this means is that while Italy discovered its first two infections in Chinese tourists, these two were unrelated to the subsequent virus outbreak because the strain infecting Italy is different from that in China and in those two Chinese tourists. Italy, like almost all other countries, did not obtain its infection from China and indeed could not have done. The only country with Italy’s variety of the virus is the US, and thus the infection must have originated in America, not in China. Similarly, the locations near China – South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, even Taiwan Province, share an entirely different common strain. China had only a tiny pocket of that strain, and very far from Wuhan. These were not infected by China, either.
    […]
    Given the high volume of Chinese passenger traffic around the world, it isn’t surprising that some infections would have been discovered in Chinese nationals in other countries and, since the first outbreak occurred in China, it was natural to test travelers from China. Because of that focus, few countries thought to check travelers from the United States. Australia did check, the country’s Prime Minister recently stating that 80% or more of all infections in his country occurred in the US, then traveled home. (6) Similarly, Iceland confirmed that some of their coronavirus infections have been traced to Denver. (7) (8) I have a strong suspicion that if all countries review the travel history of their early infections, they will discover more US traffic in the mix, perhaps predominantly so.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-two-major-waves-of-global-infection-towards-global-contamination/5707588

    • Agree: Robjil
  264. Trinity says:
    @Kim

    Passive aggression is a cornerstone with MOST Orientals except in times of war of course. The Japanese and Vietnamese were extremely brutal to American POWs and the Japanese slaughtered the Chinese in WWII. Of course we don’t hear or read much about how brutal the Japanese were to the Chinese here in America. In America the only part of WWII we hear or read about is the holohoax. Me thinks this (((virus))) is almost as much of a hype job as the “holocaust.”

    • Replies: @Malla
  265. German_reader says:
    @Iris

    Even better : the Czech Republic, an EU member, has stolen 680,000 masks sent by China to Italy to help fight the pandemic.

    As far as I’m informed, that’s fake news, those masks have been sent to Italy. And the Czechs have also sent aid themselves to Spain:

    • Replies: @Iris
  266. tac says:
    @Tor597

    what you spew is utter BS and shame on those who believe this nonsense. Although few may hold this view, most “white nationalists” want to be in a country inhabited by their own kind. That is nothing more than the Chinese, Japanese, or other eastern countries practice in reality as is exemplified within their own kind.

    That is NOT to say one hates others, but, more appropriately, one loves, earns to be amognst his/her own people, and would like to be surrounded by his/her own ilk.

    One can visit other countries/cultures and appreciate them but, in the end, what one is closest to is one own’s peoples/culture–as was the precedent since antiquity. The same is quite apparent to any observer in the animal kingdom! Surely, there are those who venture outside this historical practice, but they are far few in between.

    We all can be respectful, yet separate within our own ranks and cultures…..NOTHING WRONG with that. Europeans (although relatively distinct from one another) are home to Europeans, just like any other peoples who have occupied a portion of this planet chose to cohabitate with their ilk. Whatever it is, for good or bad, it is nonetheless the way of he human race (as exemplified in the animal kingdom) has heretofore lived as a human exemplar of sorts.

    • Agree: Kal
    • Replies: @Tor597
    , @Chinaman
  267. Agent76 says:

    Raoult was part of a clinical trial that in which hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin healed 90% of Covid-19 cases if they were tested very early.

    (Early massive testing is at the heart of the successful South Korean strategy.)

    https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

    MARCH 27, 2020 101-Year-Old Man Who Survived Spanish Flu Pandemic Recovers From The Coronavirus

    The patient, who the hospital identified only as “Mr. P” was born during one of the greatest pandemics in history—the Spanish flu pandemic that killed roughly 50 million people and sickened a quarter of the world’s population.

    https://www.naturalblaze.com/2020/03/101-year-old-man-who-survived-spanish-flu-pandemic-recovers-from-the-coronavirus.html

  268. @Mario Partisan

    This is a good description of the political situation, not only in Italy but all over the West. The so-called “Left” and the so-called “Right” are two sides of the same Globalist coin. The real opposition is not “Left” against “Right”, but Globalism against Nationalism.

    • Replies: @A123
  269. Jake says:

    “To join the “community” of liberal plutocracy, a nation must sacrifice its sovereignty, acquiesce to Jews, accept mass race-replacement and attack its own proud history, while getting nothing in return. Is it worth it?”

    That question should be rephrased so that it is made clear to all readers that this community of liberal plutocracy is the globalist world of WASP cultural hegemony.

    WASP culture has been forging Anglo-Zionism since at least the days of archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell.

  270. Jake says:
    @Theophrastus

    Whatever trade and self-defense alliances are made, Italy is suicidal in continuing to serve the Anglo-Zionist Empire, or the new German Empire that is the only Big Dog in the EU.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  271. Catdomnj says:
    @GeeBee

    Not to mention the ease of getting a train ticket from the row of automated machines at Rome’s station.

  272. Iris says:
    @German_reader

    As far as I’m informed, that’s fake news

    You are misinformed.

    Not only the Czech diverted 680,000 safety masks, they also first denied doing so.

    The Italian embassy in Prague then echoed the whistlblower, forcing the Czech government to acknowledge the misappropriation and to issue an official apologie on Twitter.

    Copy and paste the French article in Goggle Translate for further details.

  273. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    Would you mind explaining how the country of Czechia managed to get its hands on a shipment of masks or anything sent from China to Spain?

    How did the masks get from China to first Czechia and then Spain?? Chinese to Russian to Polish railroads and then south by truck or railroad to Czechia – Austria-Italy then west by truck or railroad to Spain is the only thing I can think of. What did the Czechs do? Seize them at the Polish border?

    A “reasonable man “ would assume a direct air freight no passengers flights from China Malpensa airport in the middle of the epidemic area would be a more reasonable and sensible way to deliver any freight. But then there’s not much reason and common sense about the epidemic on this site.

    • Replies: @Iris
  274. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mario Partisan

    The fact of the matter is: those gentiles around here who find the Jew-only aid to be distasteful are, in a way, welcoming Jews. They are saying: please stop treating yourselves as separate and above us. Please become part of our nations, where you reside, on par with the rest of us.

    YES, AGREE TO THIS.

    EXACTLY THIS!

    I heard something in China,referring to the Mainland Chinese concept of citizenship. It went like this:

    “YOU ARE COMPLETELY INSIDE, OR YOU ARE COMPLETELY OUTSIDE. THERE IS NO IN-BETWEEN”.

  275. A123 says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Globalism against Nationalism.

    I would suggest, Globalism against Populism rather nationalism. It will take an alliance of multiple nations working together to eradicate the Globalist threat.

    Christian Populists in Hungary and Poland are already in common cause against Globalist oppression from Germany and its vassals, like Emmanuel Macron. Hopefully, Salvini will regain leadership and Italy will join the European Alliance against the corrupt EU.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  276. @UK

    You should visit the place rather than just reading Godfree Robert’s utterly cringe-worthy propaganda. Make sure you leave Tier 1 areas of Tier 1 cities too. Not that Tier 1 cities aren’t actually entirely soul crushing themselves.

    As for China’s growth in wealth…it is sort of impressive….until you realise how much better the lackadaisical British colonial regime did with the same people and no natural resources in a far shorter period of time.

    Hell, supposedly ZOG degraded America seems to be able to turn random Chinese peasants into Harvard trained world-leading medical experts and researchers in one generation.

    A picture is worth one thousand words, maybe you should take a look yourself: Chinese bridges, Chinese highways, Chinese high speed rail, and Chinese cities.

    British colonial regime? Like what they did in India? One famine after another? Your argument would be much more persuasive if India were in a better shape than China today.

    The random Chinese peasants had already been a genius before they went to Harvard. There are 560 million rural population in China. Some of them are bound to be genius. Furthermore, maybe they do not really need to go to Harvard, because China has some of the best institutions in life sciences in the world, as well as physics, chemistry, earth and environmental sciences.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01920-1

  277. UK says:
    @Paul from Lebanon

    Do you sit on the street and if people throw you a coin you rant at them randomly for 5 minutes?

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  278. Getaclue says:
    @ivan

    I’ve seen video of the Chinese actively throwing sick people out of Hospitals to keep the infection rate at zero and riots as WuHan people are not allowed into other Provinces, cops trying to arrest cops–cop cars tossed etc….I find the propaganda as to China here a bit over the top/unbelievable….Yes the USA has major problems–mostly due to NeoCon Globalists NWO types– who are also great promoters of the ChiComs– to say China is some kind of panacea? Bizarre– they cart off people who don’t tow the line of the “Party” in Vans never to be heard of again (You know, people like Ron Unz who might have a website attacking the ChiCom Pary “Elite”–that wouldn’t fly over there so well and would no doubt get you a one way Van ride….)

    — whether the ChiComs released this Virus or not to state they don’t do this kind of work in their BioLab is total bs based on what we know historically as to SARS leaking out from there etc. (admitted) and the smuggling (the guy caught with Virus in his sock on the plane maybe)– so the Cheerleading/bs is just a bit much….How much smuggling of biocrud in the socks is going on? How much is leaking out from this nuttery? How about the lunatic head of the Chemistry Department at Harvard who was just arrested for basically being a very well paid BioSpy for the ChiComs? The problem isn’t the USA or China– it’s both– the CIA etc. are also full of Mad Scientist loons– that’s how we got Lyme Disease–something that can ruin your life from a Tick bite… — off the Plum Island Bioweapons site they put some Nazi scientists they rounded up on to continue their work on infecting ticks with diseases–ticks were let out on the island and Deer swam on to the island and became infested with these ticks and swam them off onto us– our own WuHan right here that was covered up for decades and still is…. None of that though excuses ChiComs hiding biocrud in their socks and all the espionage/stealing they’ve done in Canada etc.–not mentioning any of this in the ChiCom Cheerleading articles here makes them no more than Propaganda pieces!: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/31/us/chinese-scientist-cancer-research-investigation.html

    Seems China is making a few dollars off this “altruism”? https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-money-coronavirus-spain-467-million-faulty-supplies

    Here –use a facemask from altruistic China– and die. https://www.businessinsider.com/coroanvirus-holland-recalls-over-half-a-million-masks-imported-from-china-2020-3 How about some more balanced non-propaganda pieces?

    • Replies: @ivan
  279. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    All the great empires of the 19th century were agreed that China must never be allowed to modernize and advance.

    Really? That explains why HongKong as part of the British Empire was so developed and Manchuria was so developed by the Japanese Empire.

  280. Malla says:
    @Trinity

    The old divide and conquer m.o.

    These Zios are really experts at this game.
    Many years back on a website (which has been purged by wordpress) there was info about a CIA or Israeli hidden jew, I do not remember who, was inciting low IQ Bangladeshi Muslim fundamentalists to hate their Hindu minority and then the SAME guy was rallying low IQ Hindu fundamentalists in India against Muslims.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  281. Iris says:
    @Anonymous

    But then there’s not much reason and common sense about the epidemic on this site.

    Considering that you confuse Spain with Italy, you should refrain from commenting on other people reason amd cogmitive abilities.

  282. @UK

    I’m stunned by your ability to write so coherently with all those Hebrew phalluses in your mouth. How many are you up to now? 11?

    Now look, I have no problem with you being gay. But may I suggest you expand your horizons?

    I’ve heard there is a beautiful Chinese girl making the rounds these days. Everyone is talking about her. I hope she pays you a visit and gives you the ride of your life.

    [MORE]

    In fact, I hope she takes you to the heavens, because we don’t need you on this planet.

    • LOL: UK
  283. Anon[544] • Disclaimer says:

    A commercial aircraft carrying 80 tons of gloves, masks, gowns and other medical supplies from Shanghai touched down in New York on Sunday, the first of 22 scheduled flights that White House officials say will funnel much-needed goods to the United States by early April as it battles the world’s largest coronavirus outbreak.

    The plane delivered 130,000 N95 masks, 1.8 million face masks and gowns, 10 million gloves and thousands of thermometers for distribution to New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, said Lizzie Litzow, a spokeswoman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Ms. Litzow said that flights would be arriving in Chicago on Monday and in Ohio on Tuesday, and that supplies would be sent from there to other states using private-sector distribution networks.

    While the goods that arrived in New York on Sunday will be welcomed by hospitals and health care workers — some of whom have resorted to rationing protective gear or using homemade supplies — they represent just a tiny portion of what American hospitals need. The Department of Health and Human Services has estimated that the United States will require 3.5 billion masks if the pandemic lasts a year.

  284. Malla says:
    @Trinity

    Japanese slaughtered the Chinese in WWII.

    Some of that was B.S., type of Holohoax propaganda.

  285. Malla says:
    @German_reader

    I had a discussion with an Italian on another website who complained bitterly about “selfish” Northerners and said Italy might now look towards its “true friends” Russia and China.

    Wait, ain’t the Russians a type of Northerner to the Meds?

  286. ivan says:
    @TrudeauSux

    The Earth revolves around the Heavenly Kingdom. They want to restart their economy while proclaiming a historic victory. Whatever happens from here on my country India will know better than to rely on either their supply chain or their fake news. And the same goes for the countries in South East Asia where I live.

  287. ivan says:
    @Getaclue

    I agree that all nations have some sort of a programme to at least protect their nations from pandemics. Hence some of their activities may look suspicious. But the Chicoms took it to a whole new level . First by hiding it. Then imposing military blockades while at the same time claiming everything was under control. Then when people’s gaze was turned the other way threatening countries that blocked air traffic from China two months ago. And this is all for starters. There will be a reckoning for the Chicoms. All of us are fed up with their lies and prickly attitudes. I have it on good authority that they themselves are sourcing masks overseas for their own military. It is clear that the bloody buggers will never tell the truth unless it is beaten out of them, Jack Bauer style.

  288. Tor597 says:
    @Trinity

    A few decades ago.

    Notice what a change in time can do for a people? You are about to find out. That white people showed such incompetence in handling a crisis can only mean a long decline.

    And give me a break on the Asian copy meme. If that makes you feel better than fine. It is your way of coping and getting through the day.

    By the way, Jews only control you because you let them.

  289. Seraphim says:
    @German_reader

    Germans don’t like Romanians because they are ‘Zigeuner’ and treat them like that. You would imply that Germans are ‘Zigeuner’ too.

  290. anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Further to my rant above, which I do not take back because the ChiComs are indeed disgusting eaters, I find the following;

    https://indianpunchline.com/russia-quizzes-us-on-coronavirus-parentage/

    The idea that this pestilence could actually be man-made has been too fantastic to believe. The analyst above opines that Russia knows something about this. If indeed this is man-made, I hope the Great Satan is responsible and is clearly implicated, because it would be so natural for such an Evil entity.

    This makes me ponder… there are those here who gloat and exult about the “greatness” of the whitey. But, the whitey has also been responsible for creating and using some of the most unspeakable horrors in the world. The gloating, knowing well enough the evil attributable to your pagan/godless kind, is nauseating.

    The Ayatollah of Iran once raised a fatwa that it is against Islam to create and use nuclear weapons, or any such weapons of mass murder. Even if I secretly hope that they (and other oppressed nations) do develop their own arsenal, just for their self-protection, I also pray that the Almighty One protects and aids us true monotheists as part of His grand plan, so that research and possession of these evil weapons becomes unnecessary.

    If such evil is what it takes to be truly “great,” like the whiteys and the apparently equally “great” (and equally godless) orientals, I pray we never reach that level of “greatness.”

    It is also amusing to see the ass-kissing between the “superior” whiteys and the newly endorsed “superior” chinamen. 😀 Perhaps the racist whiteys are beginning to reconcile to the fact that they will need to share hegemony of the world with the chinamen. You are both godless, and you both cursed.

    Our greatness will come when the Almighty One accepts our sincere true monotheism, and grants us mercy and salvation on The Day. The same Day, when all the “great” people will be utterly lost.

    God willing.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Chinaman
  291. Pericles says:
    @UK

    (Standing applause for 20 minutes by Congress.)

  292. Pericles says:
    @UK

    I didn’t realise that minor charity from an Israeli “diaspora ministry” was something that normal people were supposed to expect.

    Jews expect everything from the normal people. But normal people can, of course, expect nothing from Jews.

  293. Pericles says:
    @Tor597

    Oh, and it is rich complaining about being colonized when white people are literally colonizing the world. If you don’t want the world in your house, then you should first leave theirs.

    The 1950s called and wanted their commie memes back, buddy. Yeah, it’s that long ago now. How about you shoot us some fresh Emmitt Till zingers next?

  294. Tor597 says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Not true at all.

    I am an anti-imperialist no matter what kind and I have been even when it does not involve Asians or white people.

    And I am not an Asian Supremacist. Nowhere did I mention anything remotely of the sort. White people are triggered by Asian success. That does not mean Asians are superior.

    Smoggins may have been trying to extend an olive branch in his own way. But that is not what I was reacting to. I was mainly calling him out for being insincere and incorrect.

    There are white people who see Asians as civilized kin. But for the most part, white people see Asians as wholly foreign and a threat unless they are controlled in some way. My assumptions were proven correct when he responded to me.

    The rest of your drivel is too long and winded to respond to. Mainly you are trying to correct the record for me and I reject it.

    You could just as easily apply your logic to the people who are hating on other groups but I will believe it when I see it.

    You are just a thin skinned white guy who gets triggered to easily.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  295. Wielgus says:
    @Mario Partisan

    In the early 1980s I knew a young Italian in Germany. He was quite open about supporting the PCI but his world view was more like the British Labour Party than Lenin.
    He was also the most completely unabashed person about sexuality I have ever met. He lived in a flat next door and I knocked on his door to bring him some mail that had just arrived. He came to the door naked. He was banging his Croatian girl friend. Neither of them seemed at all embarrassed.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  296. Richard B says:
    @anon

    Unbelievable. This site is literally posting CCP propaganda now.

    Absolutely! Lots of it. Even Ron’s “The Government Employee” article reads that way.

    The two groups who have no intention of letting this orchestrated crisis go to waste are, of course, the ones who created it,

    Jewish Supremacy Inc. and The Chi-Com International.

    They’re both essentially the two super powers of the world today.

    They’ve formed a partnership and pretty much dividing the world up between them.

    The pandemic is central to this.

  297. Tor597 says:
    @tac

    Everything you are saying is what I also believe. But you never mentioned what specifically I said that was BS.

    I think your point is that only a few white nationalists are “bad people” who hate Asians, but the rest just want to be left alone and be with their people. And there is no hostility towards Asians in general.

    I disagree. I don’t think white nationalists have an innate hatred of Asians like they have for blacks or Jews. With Asians, it is all relative to the threat

    When China was a dirt poor country doing manual labour, everyone loved China. But now that China is strong and acting independent white people manufacture as much hate as they can because they feel threatened.

    All the other stuff you said about nationalism I agree with. But if white people really want that, they should first learn to leave the rest of the world alone.

    • Replies: @Kal
  298. Alfred says:
    @utu

    If anyone has any doubts about this being all ado about almost nothing, this chart should help them.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @glib
  299. @A123

    Yes, international solidarity of the various nationalisms in the world is the demand of the hour. For me this could also include Israeli nationalism (a safe Jewish state in Palestine), but the Globalist Jewish overclass in all western countries has to go. Next we will have to think about repatriation of all post-1965 Third World immigrants in western countries. Jewish emigration to Israel should also be encouraged. Every people in the world its own country – what’s wrong with that?

  300. Miro23 says:

    Also they’re not telling the truth about the economic damage in Italy. For example they’re saying that fuel consumption (a good indicator of economic activity) is down around 20% while the reality is much worse:

    Refineries globally have been cutting back activity. Last week, Gruppo API SpA indefinitely stopped its Falconara facility in Italy until fuel demand recovers. The nation’s fuel consumption has declined by about 85%, a spokesman for the company said, citing a union of retail gas stations. Meanwhile, huge refineries across Asia are cutting back as billions of people stay home.
    Bloomberg 30th March

    There’s a big difference between 20% and 85%.

  301. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    Our greatness will come when we try to sincerely spread true monotheism, like we did on those darky smellies of India by destroying their Hindoo temples, enslaving them, killing millions and then taking their women.
    Well those idol Worship Hindoos want revenge. They never forgot. Freaking billion of them.

    God willing.

  302. Chinaman says:
    @tac

    I actually agree and if that’s the textbook definition of a white nationalist, then I am a East Asian Nationalist. Unfortunately, the reality it that it requires some level of erudition or intellectual curiosity and IQ to have respect and appreciate another culture. This is in short supply amongst nationalists of any race, especially the 2 digit IQ hicks. There are elements of high culture in every civilisation that deserve respect and there are barbaric elements that should be shunned.

    • Agree: Kal
    • Replies: @Kal
  303. Chinaman says:
    @anonymous

    It is also amusing to see the ass-kissing between the “superior” whiteys and the newly endorsed “superior” chinamen. 😀 Perhaps the racist whiteys are beginning to reconcile to the fact that they will need to share hegemony of the world with the chinamen. You are both godless, and you both cursed.

    This is actually very interesting. I am actually an agnostic who believe in evolution, singularity and transhumanism. All discovered by white so you can be chauvinistic about but won’t accept. You might be right that I might have more in common with agnostic white nationalists with a normal IQ and whom consider themselves intellectually curious…than with you. I think they might be quite embarrassed by having you amongst their rank.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  304. Catiline says:
    @German_reader

    So while I’m in favour of humanitarian aid during the present crisis (and that’s already a big concession imo, since Covid-19 cases are still steadily rising in Germany too and nobody knows how much it will escalate), accepting Coronabonds and the like is unacceptable. If it breaks the EU, fine, good riddance, I don’t care about a union with people who hate me anyway.

    Are those big fat trade surpluses with the south acceptable? Do you want to keep on accepting them? Gut,then I suggest you accept Coronabonds too. I also suggest you care if the EU breaks. No EU, no trade surplus for the ubermensch. Achtung!

    • Replies: @German_reader
  305. German_reader says:
    @Catiline

    No EU, no trade surplus for the ubermensch.

    That’s just the attitude why I’m not interested in being in any sort of union with Italians anymore, you’re simply not trustworthy, this crisis is merely used as a pretext for policies you’ve wanted for years anyway (and which were rejected for good reasons). If it were a one-off exception just for dealing with the current crisis, ok, one might think about that, but everybody knows if those Coronabonds are ever accepted by Germany and other Northerners, they’ll become a permanent institution, no thanks. Germany should offer the kind of humanitarian help it already has during the crisis, after that Euro and EU should be dissolved, don’t care how much it costs (don’t care about the trade surplus either, little of that has filtered down to most Germans anyway), anything is better than being stuck in a union with morally defective people like you. Go seek your luck with the Chinese, Russians or Americans.

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @utu
    , @Catiline
  306. Excellent article.

    The 600 ventilators that Russia sent to Italy, 80% of which “anonymous sources” (based in Langley?) claimed were defective, may well be needed in Russia itself before too long – with Moscow having 5,000 ventilators, that is not an inconsiderable number. The least Italy could do is veto the EU sanctions on Russia when they next come up for renewal, though I’m not holding my breath for that.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Avery
  307. UK says:

    It sounds like you have your demons. That is all. So many of the readers of this “Striker” person seem to.

    This is like a very strange lost boys’ club for reasonably bright young men to externalise their tumultuous feelings.

  308. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just Passing Through

    “…… Almost all countries worship white people ….. ”

    All I can say is that the author has had a very, very sheltered life.

    The truth is that the dark races of mankind have an instinctive hatred/grudge for white people. All of them do – some hide it better than others. Secretly, they want whites to die off.

    – and the real ‘funny’ thing is that that not even the darkies hate whites more than the ‘white’ political class of the west.

    The truth is that whites have absolutely no friends.

  309. ivan says:
    @German_reader

    Yes it is unfair to expect the Germans and Dutch to pick up the tab every time. All the nations were supposed to converge to the German model of heavy saving but that did not happen. The Italians were unable to get their fiscal and monetary discipline going in the 90s and hence the lira fluctuated on a band with the mark. They should not now claim that they made sacrifices. Rather the prospect of a common currency was so attractive to them in order to instill financial discipline at home. I think all countries have their own characteristics and should be free to live as they choose.

    • Replies: @Catiline
  310. Kal says:
    @Mefobills

    If he is correct then majority of whites suffer underneath this game, we are the ones being purposely and methodically displaced not the Chinese who are some of the biggest offenders of modern day colonialism. The only thing you confirmed is that white people’s elite allied with the Jews sold whites out. Alt Hype did a great video on the fiscal costs of nonwhites. Asians contribute but are not needed if it were only whites we could still make a balancer budget. Blacks and Mestizos are massive drains. I love how the idea that whites somehow benefit from being sold out to countries willing to abuse their workforces more equals to are benefit. Cheap plastic shit is such a benefit.

  311. Trinity says:
    @Malla

    Yup, I will bet you a steak dinner these over the top (((China Supremacists))) and (((Chinese haters))) are MOSTLY Jew trolls trying to deflect Israel or Jewish involvement in the manufacturing of the (((coronavirus))) while stirring up anti-Chinese hatred among Americans and Europe. Interesting, not one article save for EMJ’s article is mentioning JEW Professor Leiber was caught smuggling vials of a biological experiment out of America with 2 Chinese nationals. (((These people))) seem to always be involved don’t they? 5 Dancing Shlomos all over AGAIN. Look at who (((they))) immediately started blaming for 9-11. Italy might never forget, but it looks like Americans do and did forget about (((who))) LIED to them about 9-11 and WMD, who LIED to them about the USS Liberty, who LIED to them about JFK, who LIED to them about Pearl Harbor, the list goes on and on and on. The American government is no longer American and it hasn’t been for quite some time. And the (((media))) is almost entirely run by Jews who are rabidly anti-White racists, and pro Jewish/Zionist Supremacists. “Our” government and (((media))) would gladly sacrifice your sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, uncles, nephews, brothers, etc., fighting whomever they choose as the flavor of the month whether it be Iran, Iraq, Russia, North Korea or the Chinese. WHEN will America kick these psychopathic glorified gypsies to the curb?

    • Agree: jsigur
    • Replies: @Malla
  312. Trinity says:
    @Chinaman

    Actually you have more in common with Jewish racists than anyone else, Shlomo. You are about as Chinese as Baby Nut&Yahoo.

  313. Kal says:
    @Tor597

    White nationalists want an end to empire. All of us hate U.S. imperialism. Whites criticize China and if you are Chinese, you know this to be true because Chinese bear an enormous grudge and deep hatred for whites. This is just a fact; you blame whites for every single problem you have had and Netizens constantly fantazise about destroying white nations in wars and when Notre Dame burned a majority of you laughed and called it karma for the summer palace. This is also exarcerbated by the fact that China is basically Israel writ large. Imperialist and Globalist for everyone else and nationalist for itself. Modern China is no friend to nationalism especially white nationalists whose countries they want to see burn that is why white nationalist criticize China. If it was Japan becoming a dominant power, you would not see the same reaction.

    • Agree: tac
  314. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    You have made it clear that, in truth, you were never part of the family – not where it counted, not in your HEART. You have DECEIVED them, and BETRAYED their solemn trust.

    That is an extremely serious matter.

    Indeed it is.

    And the fact that they do not understand this immoral behavior as a breach of faith is deeply concerning.

  315. KlcTan says:
    @cortesar

    21M phone numbers missing is fake news propagated by Epoch Times which is owned by FaLun Gong, a cult banned in China. Ever since its banning, FaLun has been pushing fake news against China.

    Recommend its teachings for you to create a spinning wheel in your body to protect you from Covid19 and to take you to heaven.

  316. Malla says:
    @Trinity

    (((These people))) seem to always be involved don’t they?

    There was also an Israeli involvement in the Fukushima Nuclear incident in Japan. Jew tube scrubbed away most of the videos on this subject.

  317. glib says:
    @Alfred

    Today I am busy, but two things:

    1) Wuhan mortality 0.12% (paper below), far in excess of the 0.1% of the flu
    2) I am collecting data on particulate matter, since its correlation with pneumonia is strong (the italian government has locked up people in parts of Italy where mortality has not increased. Strictly speaking, mortality is normal everywhere but Lombardy)

    I will also post other papers relevant to this discussion, including proof that the virus has been circulating a long time (lockdown ineffective), past flu seasons, etc.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v2

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  318. jsigur says:
    @UK

    The problem is that it is so typical of Jews when push comes to shove to only worry about Jews, amplified by their pretend stance of non-white minority concerns that they push in formerly white dominated countries

  319. jsigur says:
    @Alfred

    “Starting an article with such an obvious falsehood is beyond the pale. People who die WITH the virus are not always killed BY the virus. Capisci?”

    If the virus was “the last straw” that “broke the camels back” you could say that it is a cause of the death

  320. jsigur says:
    @fatmanscoop

    white nationalists or those pretending to be WNists have a well documented history of attacking other races in social media (encouraged often by their controlled leaders who prefer to neutralize the ability of whites to accomplish anything productive when it comes to removing the “hostile elites”)

  321. @A123

    Campbell Bannerman makes Trump look like an intellectual genius. He does have the Brexiter passion for finding (being told to promote) counter factual anecdotes.

  322. @glib

    Wuhan – originally a major steel town.
    Lombardy – major steel producing region
    Lorraine (Frances biggest centre of infection) – major steel producing region
    Gwent, Wales – (UK’s highest rate per 100,000) – until recently a major steel producing region
    Madrid/Toledo – steel producing region

    On this basis, I predict Pittsburgh and the Donbass will have problems. It might be poverty induced TB from 80 years ago? All these places had an exceptionally hard time.

    The Ruhr becomes an exception to be explained. The Nazis were exceptionally keen on public health and physical fitness.

    • Thanks: ivan
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  323. @Wielgus

    He was quite open about supporting the PCI but his world view was more like the British Labour Party than Lenin.

    That doesn’t surprise me at all. The PCI outlook was essentially reformist socialism from at least the end of WWII onward. This was, in fact, consistent with the instructions of the CCCP, which had directed all Communist parties to ditch Leninist vanguardism and pursue reformist/electoral mass party politics.

    By the 1980s the PCI had come under the leadership of an Italian MP by the name of Enrico Berlinguer who was openly critical of Moscow over its repressive measures in the satellite states and in Afghanistan (perhaps too critical?) This was in contrast to the PCF in France which was highly Stalinistic.

    Anyway there is a leftist Italian band that I like that has a song about Compagno Berlinguer. Enjoy! (Lyrics in English below.)

    [MORE]

    A whole people holds its breath and stares at the coffin
    Under the stage and the photos

    The city seems like a sea of red flags
    and of flowers, and tears and goodbyes.

    We were at the pub, an evening like so many
    A talking as always about politics and sports
    And Ghigo Forni arrived, pale like a sheet
    And we understood amongst the swearing
    ”They said on the radio there has been a misfortune
    In Padova, the PCI secretary is sick.”

    Luciano went to the phone
    Guys, Comrade Berlinguer is dying.
    Pipein went to the cantina
    And took out a big bottle
    It was gone in a 45 minutes
    It was for a special occasion
    I don’t remember what happened
    But all of a sudden
    We were on the train
    To Berlinguer’s funeral

    In Modena there was a Party train
    Picking everyone up wth the flags and banners
    In Bologna they were bringing out the wine
    And reading the headlines of L’Unita’ (party paper)

    There was Gianni the dustman with playing cards
    He would pick everybody dry, From Bologna to Sasso Marconi
    But in Florence Vitori “the professor” started playing
    After two games 4-0 Gianni shut up.

    The old started
    Remembering the old times
    Those of the resistance
    When they were partisans
    I don’t know if it was important
    But in the end we found ourselves
    On the train taking us
    To Berlinguer’s funeral

    The friends and the comrades mourn him
    The enemies honor him,
    Pertini sits stunned and something died in him too.
    Pajetta remembers with rage and speaks with a thundering voice
    But he can’t bring him back.

    Roma Termini we get down, unroll the flags
    We stop in Piazza Esedra for the usual coffee
    Gianni the secretary starts and we all go behind him
    To say goodbye to our comrade Berlinguer

    With our red handkerchiefs but dark faces,
    We didn’t feel like talking between us
    But then a jerk started giggling
    We managed to stop Gigi before things got bad
    We were at the end for all the time
    And when we got there
    The square was full
    “But how many communists there are?”
    We couldn’t see shit
    But we found ourselves too
    On the train taking us
    To Berlinguer’s funeral

    Peppino went to the cave
    To take some bottles
    We drank them all in 45 minutes,
    It was the wine for special occasions
    I don’t remember what happened
    But suddenly we found ourselves
    On the train taking us
    To Berlinguer’s funeral

  324. @Kal

    I am pinching myself: where the hell am I?
    I thought I woke up here on earth this mornng but apparently now!
    let me get serius and go figure out where I am some info.
    where are the cops when you need them. I hope they are not zogs! zogs!!! what…!?

  325. @Bill Jones

    You are making this too easy.

  326. krisp says:

    Yet, in what can only be described as an act of subhumanity, the Turkish government went out of its way to maliciously confiscate 200,000 masks purchased by Italy in early March, with no refund.

    I can’t find anything in the linked article about Turkey confiscating masks and not providing a refund. Where does this information come from?

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  327. Lurker says:
    @Malla

    How idiotic is that!!!

    Very.

    Saw a silly PC moment on TV earlier. About Brits buying chateaus in France. A Frenchman refers, seemingly un-ironically, to the Asian woman married to a Brit as ‘English’. Yet it’s not even her first language! Then later the voiceover helpfully reminds us that the wife of another Brit is, in fact, Croatian lest we mistakenly assume she’s English.

    • Agree: Malla
  328. utu says:
    @German_reader

    “I’m not interested in being in any sort of union with Italians anymore”. – You were not interested in being in union with Frau Merkel either. But you did nothing. Because you could not. So you have no choice and your thoughts, opinions and feelings do not matter and I doubt there are any actions you could afford that could make a difference. Would you go to Rome and self-immolate as a sign of protest? So what you need is to calm down. It may help you to consider a possibility that what you see and hear from Italians on the net can be coming from the ‘Bannon brigade’ seeded with the old Italian Gladio soldiers. Their goal is to evoke exactly the reaction you are displaying now. Do not let them succeed.

    • Agree: Catiline
    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Catiline
  329. @Tor597

    And I am not an Asian Supremacist. Nowhere did I mention anything remotely of the sort.

    Are you denying my calling you out as a racist Asian supremacist? Typical thin-skinned yellow fragility!

    Now, don’t’ make a fuss about me referring to you as a pigment. I tried to demonstrate to you that there is a lot of diversity in people of European origin underneath our white skin and you rejected that nuance. So you do not deserve the courtesy of being referred to as Asian. And if you whine you will simply prove that you are the thin-skinned yellow hypocrite that I am saying you are. So shut up.

    No, you didn’t come right out and say “I am an Asian Supremacist.” But let’s look at your comment again:

    White nationalists…see East Asians as an existential threat because unlike Blacks, Arabs, Latinos we could actually replace white people at the top of the pyramid.

    So, you are saying that whites face essentially zero competition from Blacks, Arabs and Latinos, and that East Asians could beat white people. That is declaring your superiority over all the races of the world and that makes you a supremacist by most definitions.

    When someone denies the direct implications of their own words it is clear they are deceiving only themselves. And self-deception is a hallmark of the emotionally weak and pathetic.

    You know what is also a pathetic personality trait? Having to twist other people’s words in order to make your case.

    [MORE]

    You say you weren’t reacting to Smoggins’ olive branch but to his insincerity. So, let’s look at his quote (which was to Chinaman, who is an intellectual giant compared to you):

    I think the more you hang around here you’ll find that almost all White nationalists have a great deal of respect for East Asians and your culture. We don’t hate you friend, we recognize you as a member of a fellow superior race. Don’t buy this “people of colour” shit that the left tries to push. We know the difference between blacks and East Asians, believe me. Also, the “conservatives” who are anti China are neocons, in other words, Jews and their lackeys.

    First, there is nothing in that comment other than an olive branch. You may claim that you were reacting to something else, but there was nothing else to react to, so you are being insincere while claiming to be able to read the mind of someone else.

    In short, you are an arrogant bull-shitter, but the only person who buys your bullshit is you!

    You could just as easily apply your logic to the people who are hating on other groups but I will believe it when I see it.

    First, I decided to address your anti-white drivel because I liked your disgust at the foreign policy of the US and I wanted to improve your foe/friend detection system so that (possibly) well-intentioned people like you might direct your anger in a better direction.

    But, at the end of the day, I don’t think you are capable of that. Your are not really opposed to US imperialism; you like it because it provides you with the justification for hating whitey. Your hate comes first, and your anti-imperialism is a way of rationalizing your racism.

    Your rejection of my and everyone else’s olive branches around here demonstrates that beyond doubt.

    And yes, I’m harsher with others even more, even if they are white. You know that “UK” fellow in this thread. I made sure to look through his comments archive before telling him off. But he is basically an Anglo supremacist who hates the Chicoms and has celebrated the assassination of the Persian general because he loves Israel. For you I want to believe there is hope; for people like that – they are hopeless!

    Last thing, just so you understand that I, as a white person, am not jealous over Asian success (or yellow success in your case).

    I used to teach a quantitative social science at a college for a few years (not too long ago fyi). One day I was returning the graded exams to the students and the average score was embarrassingly low, but the high score (100%) was from one of several exchange students from China, helping to clarify for me that it wasn’t my teaching that was the source of the problem. You better believe I shamed the American students and made it clear that if a foreign student new to English can kick their butts that they have no one to blame but themselves.

    I have zero pathological desire to dominate anybody of any race and most white people I know are along the same lines. That fact that you insist on telling us what we think is disgusting and reflective of an individual projecting their own unabashed racism onto others.

    Look in the mirror and take a good look at the easily triggered yellow girl staring back!

  330. KenH says:
    @Tor597

    White people expanded their colonies. That’s why the US has so many military bases throughout the world.

    You don’t know the difference between a colony and a military base. Chinese troll farms need to step up their game and raise their standards. It’s obvious they found you wandering the streets and gave you a tiny cubicle, some cigarettes, rice and a sheet of talking points.

    It’s called dollar hedgemony. This means that the US can just print money out of thin air and the rest of the world subsidizes this. If a country tries to get out of the dollar, the US overthrows them.

    Hegemony or hedge funds? Learn to spell. And no shit, but that’s not colonialism. Get back to me when the U.S. is permanently colonizing large areas of foreign nations with its citizens. The military bases are just a speck on the map of these nations.

    The only reason the world comes to the west to work is because of money. Not because they like the west or because they have forgotten what you guys have done.

    No shit and appreciate the honesty because when a white person charges non-white immigrants with only coming here for the moolah they are called “racist and “xenophobic”.

    Instead all the wealth gets transported to your countries.

    Economics isn’t your strong suit. Foreign workers displace American workers thus making them poorer and send a good chunk of their money home as remittances. The only winners are corporate executives who reap the whirlwind of the lower labor costs in bonuses tied to the rising stock price.

    Why don’t we talk about China’s violent colonization of Tibet and Uiger lands and the many human rights abuses committed by the communist Chinese government?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Robjil
  331. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Italy is the home of western civilization.

    And this National Bolshevist wants them to adopt the Chinese model and become a Chinese protectorate. E Michael Jones just wrote a very convincing article right next to this one about how the people who want to adopt the Chinese model are those like the Rockefellers and the Oligarchs. Those who want to crush Western freedom and Western spirit. Like Eric Striker.

    So we will have the Chinese red star which is Jewish in origin flying over the Piazza Nuvona and Chinese troops and informants on the Via Dei Forei Imperiali. In time.

    And the seven major Basilicae will be stripped bare of their iconography and filled with whatever debased and degraded perverted version of Christianity the Chinese deign to allow in the soul of Europe. Or they’ll simply be destroyed entirely and turned into some Chinese people’s town hall.

    And Italy will be filled with the clucking and clicking of yet another set of invaders, who will subject them to debt penury no different to the IMF, except it is in a very difficult foreign language. Except they will not be able to leave their homes or catch a bus if they don’t renounce their western character and praise China.

    Mr Striker and his quest for National Bolshevism is becoming more transparent by the day.

    This man doesn’t know Italy, nor does he have the interests of the Italians in his mind.

    The fact that the Jews behaved like Jews have always behaved and the European Union are enemies of the Italian people and western civilization doesn’t mean that they should join the Chinese axis.

    Trump is not a neoliberal. This ongoing effort by this phyisically repulsive national-bolshevist communist to split the nationalist West into pieces shows Eric Striker is not a friend of the West – and his efforts to impose National Bolshevism on the Christian West make him arguably an enemy of the West. One of the three essential pillars of the West is Christianity, and it, alongside the Greco-Roman philosophical and legal legacy would not and could not survive Chinese hegemony and this man knows that.

    Italy for the Italians.

    [MORE]

    America for the Americans – the posterity Americans. Because that’s who ‘the Americans’ actually are.

    Hungary for the Hungarians.

    Europe for the Europeans, not the Chinese, or the Russians. The Russians have enough problems of their own. The Russians themselves could end up becoming split between Muslims and the Chinese.

    God uniting the European nations. Not Chinese led national-bolshevism. As E Michael Jones says, Logos is rising. Italians would rather die then be subjected to social credit fiat, and see all their western art and history destroyed in Chinese/Jewish cultural revolution, or Afro-Islamic annihilation. But that’s pretty clearly what Eric Striker wants.

    The Chinese as saviours yes?

    https://mothership.sg/2020/03/covid-19-holland-china-masks/

    600,000 masks apparently sabotaged to kill as many Italians as they possibly could.

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/spain-returns-faulty-test-kits-to-china-as-covid-19-death-toll-passes-4000-mark/

    Chinese test kits sent to Spain, tens of thousands of them also apparently, designed to kill as many Spaniards as possible with false negatives and false positives.

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3905575

    Sorry, make that hundreds of thousands of deliberately defective test kits given to the Spanish.

    https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/90-tonnes-of-supplies-shipped-to-china/3983282/

    China had it’s companies which are now revealed as instruments of the Chinese state have their full time employees buy every item of PPE in Australia.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-25/coronavirus-queensland-ppe-mask-shortage-doctors/12086562

    Now Australians have so little PPE even Australian doctors can’t get a facemask or a rubbish bag.

    And the Chinese are who are just as bad as Jews now want to sell back to Australia the PPE they basically stole whilst lying about the state of COVID in China and misleading the Australian government, at a premium.

    China lied about the spread of the Virus in China to reassure the Australians they wouldn’t be needing that PPE.

    China are now pariahs in Spain, in the Netherlands, and in Australia.

    And there are videos now floating around of Chinese literally licking park benches and coughing on everything they can find to spread the virus and cripple the West.

    The Chinese, like Eric Striker, are becoming more and more transparent about their hostile intentions towards the West by the day.

    Eric Striker is a Wormtongue of the highest order. Saying George Soros runs America when he is deadly opposed to the Trump administration is not an accident. George Soros runs Canada. He runs Finland. He runs Sweden. He doesn’t run the United States of America. Not even close. Who is the current leader of Italy? It’s Conte, a creature of the European Union. Giuseppe Conte. He would like nothing more then to lock Italians down in their homes and give them defective Chinese PPE and restart the replacement migration. The Italian people are one of the last barriers against the execution of the Kalergi plan. And the China plan isn’t an improvement.

    Striker doesn’t know Italy. Nor is he a friend of Italy, or the West. He never talks about the West, except to conflate it with ‘neo-liberalism’. This National-Bolshevist Communist is a Wormtongue.

    Yes Italians have long memories. They won’t forget Eric Striker’s Wormtongue words.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @utu
  332. German_reader says:
    @utu

    It may help you to consider a possibility that what you see and hear from Italians on the net

    It’s not just Italians on the net, these sentiments are deliberately stoked by the political establishment in Italy and Spain…why do you think Conte and Sanchez (with the connivance of the French…and no, they aren’t Bannonites, not everything can be reduced to the machinations of Americans and Zionists) are insisting so much on Coronabonds right now, refusing all other options? They want to exploit this crisis to create the transfer union they’ve always wanted, with Germans (and other Northerners like Danes, Dutch, Austrians and Finns) accepting huge liabilities without getting any say on Italy’s and Spain’s fiscal policies (at a time when the impact of the Covid-19 crisis on the northern countries isn’t clear, but it will be severe in any case). And if you don’t agree, you’re a heartless Nazi monster who wants to see Italians and Spaniards starve to death, or something. It’s blackmail, that’s no basis for any real cooperation.
    But you’re of course right, my opinion and that of people like me doesn’t matter in the end, it never does. All I can do is impotent venting on this stupid marginal internet site, lol.

    • Replies: @utu
  333. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    “Hungary for the Hungarians.” – No, Hungarians should go back to Asia.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  334. Popeye says:
    @animalogic

    Think Benito Mussolini…

  335. Catiline says:
    @German_reader

    A lot of bluster. Without the European export market Germany would starve. You may pretend not to care, but people in positions of authority in Germany do care, because they’re more intelligent and better informed than you. In addition to being morally defective yourself, you are also intellectually defective, a far more serious matter. Gute nacht.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  336. Catiline says:
    @ivan

    You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Italy has less total national debt than Germany or The Netherlands or Scandinavia. It has made real painful sacrifices for decades now and all it has gotten in return is demands for more. The reason the lira fluctuated as you say is because of a deliberate decision on the part of the traitorous Atlanticist political class to devalue in order to make it easier for the British to acquire at low cost the planned privatization of the lucrative state owned enterprises that made Italy the fourth largest economy in the world at one point. The artificially low value of the lira further hurt the Italian economy after the conversion to the Euro.

    • Replies: @ivan
  337. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I know you were talking to Tor597, but I gotta step in here, cuz although he didn’t choose his words properly, I got the gist of what he was saying.

    You don’t know the difference between a colony and a military base.

    Dude, the network of American military bases, something like 800 big and small worldwide, may not be a sign of “colonization”, but they are tools of “empire”.

    I think you might take the word “colony” to mean “a bunch of Americans emigrating to foreign lands and lording it over the locals as privileged residents, and American officials directly calling the shots in the governments of those lands.”

    If that’s your definition of colony, then of course you’d be right, there aren’t any more of those old-style, old-school colonies.

    But the military bases are the means by which we exert imperial control. So in that sense, with our network of bases, we have built up our empire since World War 2, not given it up.

    You do know that the Iraqi parliament voted to ask U.S. forces to leave their country, right? A straight up vote by the reps of the Iraqi people. And we have just ignored their will, ignored what the locals clearly want. Our stance seems to be “Nah, we’re not listening, we’re gonna stay”.

    See, THAT right there, keeping our army on someone’s soil, is the way a classic imperial power behaves. Shouldn’t be that way; someone asks you to leave their house, you leave, period. It’s almost like America is telling Iraqis “Yeah, we know you hate us, but you can’t do shit, we’re staying”. That’s absolute bullshit. And that’s just one example, there are others.

    Tor597 used the wrong word. He should have said “empire”, not “colonies”. Then he would have made his point.

    Tor597: Instead all the wealth gets transported to your countries.

    You: Economics isn’t your strong suit. Foreign workers displace American workers thus making them poorer and send a good chunk of their money home as remittances. The only winners are corporate executives who reap the whirlwind of the lower labor costs in bonuses tied to the rising stock price.

    I get what both of you are saying. You’re right about the displaced American workers, and that most Americans don’t see a dime, it all goes to elite American managers and owners.

    But Tor597 has a point in that developing-country talent simply emigrates to white countries, and makes the elite whites in those countries richer due to being paid less. Lower pay for employees = bigger profit for the American/European companies, and the corporate elite.

    But it’s a very big loss for the third world – their smart people go overseas, taking their talent with them (I figure it this way: Talent = Long Term Wealth), and removing that talent from local economies, where it’s desperately needed. The remittances don’t begin to cover the lost potential for those developing countries, which is what matters in the long run. I think that was Tor597’s point.

    Basically, both you (KenH) and Tor597 are completely agreed on this issue: You’re both upset, for different reasons, at non-white Third Worlders going to white lands. You, for them replacing whites, and Tor597, for the local talent from poor countries being drained.

    You BOTH want to put a stop to it.

    • Replies: @KenH
  338. Soros has been using his personal fortune to use the crisis as an opportunity to attack the traditional family.

    Reading quotes from the embedded link article Soros’ objective to “abolish the family” is identical to the laws imposed on Christian Russia by the Jew Bolsheviks abolishing marriage during “The Jewish Terror” as the Russians called what we have been trained to call “The Russian Revolution” just as the Jew Freud earlier promoted sexual promiscuity to destroy the institution God Incarnate Jesus came here to give as God’s greatest gift to humanity – livelong monogamy via Christian marriage untainted by that God forbidden poison “remarriage” to a different spouse following divorce.

    Jews constantly attempt to undermine the work of God Incarnate Jesus and relentlessly strive for the genocide of His followers, the Euro-ethnic descendants of Christendom,, i.e., whites.

    Striker’s no Bolshevik. On the contrary he’s as strong a man as we have defending goyim black, white and yellow from the enemies of humanity.

  339. Seraphim says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Yes, do not hold your breath for that.

    “And it came to pass, as he went to Jerusalem, that he passed through the midst of Samaria and Galilee. 12 And as he entered into a certain village, there met him ten men that were lepers, which stood afar off: 13 And they lifted up their voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us. 14 And when he saw them, he said unto them, Go shew yourselves unto the priests. And it came to pass, that, as they went, they were cleansed. 15 And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God, 16 And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan. 17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine? 18 There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger. 19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole” (Luke 17:11-19).

    Thankfulness is not the forte of the ‘Westies’. You rather “don’t cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you”.

  340. German_reader says:
    @Catiline

    SPIEGEL is a worthless anti-German rag, no surprise you like it.

    Italy has less total national debt than Germany or The Netherlands or Scandinavia.

    If true, even more reason not to grant you Coronabonds, when you don’t really need them.

    • Replies: @Catiline
  341. @krisp

    You can’t find anything? Can you not read? Or are you just a literal by-the-word literalist?

    The title of the article is Turkey blocks 200,000 face masks destined to Italy. From the article,

    Hundreds of thousands of face masks intended for Italy to help with the coronavirus emergency have been stuck since 3 March at Ankara airport. Turkey‘s government has decided that only the Minister of Health can allow the export of face masks to protect from coronavirus and this authorisation has not arrived yet, Corriere della Sera reports.

    The face masks, which Italian company Comitec paid 670,000 euros to Turkish company Ege Mask… Comitec cannot ask for a refund because the masks have been delivered but they are stuck in the customs zone of Ankara’s airport following the order of the Turkish authorities.

    http://europeanpost.co/turkey-blocks-200000-face-masks-destined-to-italy/

    So, you are right in the sense that the article does not use the word confiscate. But, then again, I don’t believe Turkey would openly admit to confiscating the masks and most news outlets that want to portray objectivity would not use the word confiscate, unless that was first used by the Turks.

    If we take the linked article at its word, it seems that the Turks are just being underhanded. They let the Italian company purchase the masks, accept payment, then hold the masks in customs limbo where they are neither in Turkey nor in Italy, and claim that a refund cannot be requested because the masks “have been delivered.”

    How deviously sultanic!

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Lo
  342. utu says:
    @German_reader

    “Nazi monster who wants to see Italians and Spaniards starve to death, or something. “ – Tell the Spaniards you helped them in 1937 and Italians in 1943 and you even rescued their beloved Il Duce and you did not get an ounce of appreciation from them so now you are really reluctant.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  343. Avery says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    { The least Italy could do is veto the EU sanctions on Russia when they next come up for renewal, …}

    Why?

    You and others who have a foot in Russia, or have first-hand sources, certainly know better, but isn’t it true that sanctions forced Russia to produce stuff that she never did? And thus has become self-sufficient in many things it used to _have_ to buy from EU?

    Not until EU, particularly Germany and France, come out from under the thumb of Anglo-American Neocon Globalists should Russia go back to the bad old days of being reliant on EU for anything – other than fluff. (i.e. Hermes handbags, French perfume, exotic/rare cheeses, etc.

    To paraphrase the author: ‘Russia must never forget nor forgive’.

  344. @utu

    “…Several studies have proven that only 4% of the DNA of today’s Hungarians show Asian origin. However, this is still the highest rate compared to neighbouring nations, which is probably due to the Hun, Avar inflow. But the Szeged research group is also interested in the components of the remaining 96%. It seems that the majority of the components can be found in the ancient European layer of the Neolithic-Bronze Age. More details could be found out from an elaborate, well-structured genetic size-up. Regarding the genetics of Hungarian conquerors, the scientists found a 30-40% Asian component. The fact that this rate has fallen to 4% means that the examined conquerors contributed to the genetic face of today’s Hungarians in 10%. Since no major change of population happened in the Carpathian Basin after the conquest, the results support previous data, according to which there weren’t many conquerors…”

    Read more at: https://dailynewshungary.com/genetic-study-proves-hungarians-descendants-huns/

    The average Hungarian doesn’t look very much different from other Europeans :
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRU1xJW6N4acR8GdfgCXq0yhKGpKESSxTIscQUmUpv-Lz2cs8dd&usqp=CAU

    • Replies: @utu
  345. Avery says:
    @Mario Partisan

    {….. Turks are just being underhanded. They let the Italian company purchase the masks, accept payment, then hold the masks in customs limbo where they are neither in Turkey nor in Italy, and claim that a refund cannot be requested because the masks “have been delivered.” How deviously sultanic!}

    Well, in a way serves EU/Italy right, although it is a tragic situation.
    EU built factories in Turkey for all sorts of goods for the cheap labor there, and now……they are being screwed over by Turks. And the screwing is just beginning.

    Same as US: US global corporations built lots and lots of factories in China many years ago, and now US is being screwed. One Chinese semi-official even publicly commented that China should withhold sending pharmaceuticals to US, if US continues pressuring China for this or that. (something like 95% of all meds in US are coming from China).

    • Replies: @Lo
  346. utu says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    OK, they can stay but only if they learn European language.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @kgbgb
  347. German_reader says:
    @utu

    Tell the Spaniards you helped them in 1937 and Italians in 1943 and you even rescued their beloved Il Duce

    Italians have successfully retconned their role in WW2, in their view it began in September 1943 and was mostly about the war crimes committed by Germans in Italy (which were admittedly bad, but Italians had done similar things themselves abroad, and as far as I can tell don’t feel overly guilty about it). The traditional view after WW2 was that basically every Italian was an antifascist, so paradoxically Italy emerged from WW2 with a strong, vaguely left-wing patriotic myth, despite having been a German ally for more than three years. I think those myths have been somewhat challenged in recent years by those on the Italian right who want to rehabilitate fascism and Mussolini (e.g. Giorgia Meloni began her political career in the genuinely neofascist MSI, and even in recent years has had kind words for someone like Giorgio Almirante…who in his turn was a pupil of fascist regime propagandist Telesio Interlandi…). But not in their anti-German aspects, those seem to be common currency in all sections of the Italian political spectrum, not least among the right. I suppose they still cling to the idea that Mussolini was pretty great himself and only “corrupted” by his German alliance.
    As for Spain, leftists like Sanchez see themselves in a direct line with the Republicans during the civil war. One of the first things his government did btw was to open the borders for African migrants, who were then put on buses (according to some reports with the cooperation of the Spanish Red Cross) for the northern frontier, so they wouldn’t linger in Spain, but get to Germany and other nothern countries as quickly as possible.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Catiline
    , @glib
  348. Patrick says:

    What’s killing people from this virus is dealing with it at the hospital. I recovered from it but dealt with it at my house because the hospitals are overflowing here so I agreed with my doctor to only use the hospital if I absolutely needed to. I could not imagine dealing with this at the hospital though, having to ask permission to drink liquids, are you serious?

    My entire body was tensed up permanently for three days. I couldn’t bend my leg to a 90 degree angle. Permanent tension throughout my chest. Constant hallucinations for three days in addition to permanent muscle tension for that same time period. I just kept drinking coconut water, watermelon juice, vitamin c, forcing myself into the hot shower, limping into it. Then After three days I could move my body normally again and the hallucinations stopped.

    But if I had dealt with it at a hospital I would not have done so well because I would not have been able to drink liquids when I wanted. Liquid dissolves hardness. I don’t believe in those stupid respirator things. I just forced myself to keep breathing by will power and stayed focus on the word of God. I agree with the social distancing but this is a wimp society to close everything down.

    This thing is just the corona flu. It’s a bad flu sure, but it’s just the flu. You won’t die from it as long as you avoid going to the hospital to deal with it. What’s killing people is being cooped up in a restrictive environment. All this social policy it’s the biggest hoax and mass hysteria to ever afflict society, that I am aware of. It’s communism. It’s stupid.

  349. Tom Hagen says:

    Interesting takes, but I wouldn’t praise the CCP just yet. Too many known unknowns.

  350. Tom Hagen says:
    @UK

    Suppose shit hits the fan in Brooklyn. A charity sends aide, but only for Gentiles…

  351. utu says:
    @German_reader

    “Italians have successfully retconned their role in WW2” – Correct. There was a miracle, not only in Italy, of the bumper crop of ‘resistance fighters’ and ‘martyrs’ after war. Cases of people getting concentration camp tattoo were not unheard of. On positive side the fact that Allies went easy on Italy allowed to preserve some ‘fascist’ thinkers and philosophers who while marginalized were allowed to function after war.

    I met an Italian woman in Montreal who had Israeli boyfriend and all she talked about was how people in the region she was from suffered form the Nazis. While annoying I dismissed her as a person of limited intelligence and lack of integrity in hope that Italians from more educated classes would not be so.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Wielgus
  352. @utu

    Finno-Ugrian languages, to which Hungarian belongs, are genuinely European and there is even a link with Indo-European.

    • Replies: @Plato's Dream
  353. Catiline says:
    @German_reader

    You are the worthless one. Consider Coronabonds the much needed fiscal discipline which must be imposed on the North buy it’s southern superiors. Jaaaawooohl!!!

    • Replies: @German_reader
  354. Catiline says:
    @German_reader

    German Nazis were (and are) anti-Italian. You reap what you sow. Stop your blubbering.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2020/03/germany-plays-russian-roulette-with-covid-19-welcomes-refugees-from-high-risk-infection-zones/

    Germany has imposed harsh travel restrictions, essentially entering a bunker mentality amid creeping hysteria seizing the country. Only German nationals or foreign citizens with an “urgent reason to travel” may cross the border. Shockingly, however, refugees from the Middle East and Africa arriving at Germany’s border in search of asylum are given the red carpet treatment into the country…

    Northern ships routinely “rescue” refugees in the Mediterranean and bring them to Italian ports.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Malla
  355. German_reader says:
    @Catiline

    Consider Coronabonds the much needed fiscal discipline which must be imposed on the North

    I’ve not even claimed that Germany is especially good with fiscal discipline, in fact I believe there’s been colossal mismanagement and waste which will come to haunt Germany in coming years. That’s exactly why I’m not interested in policies like Coronabonds which will add to that burden. Sorry, as long as there isn’t some sort of European superstate (which probably wouldn’t be a good idea anyway), “solidarity” between European states has its limits.
    And spare me your mock German, it’s exactly retarded stuff like that which makes any constructive discussion impossible.

  356. German_reader says:
    @Catiline

    German Nazis were (and are) anti-Italian.

    Well, they were after September 1943 (and I don’t deny the German atrocities against Italian civilians), before there was a lot of cooperation. Don’t know what exactly the are is supposed to refer to, genuine German Nazis today are a fringe phenomenon.

    Northern ships routinely “rescue” refugees in the Mediterranean and bring them to Italian ports.

    I know about that, obviously those German NGOs and the attitude of German mainstream politicians are a major problem, I can understand that it causes resentment in Italy. However the issue isn’t quite as simple as that, since there are also plenty of demented left-wingers in Italy herself who favour such policies (e.g. the rotten mayor of Palermo, or the prosecutors who want to indict Salvini for kidnapping). And the policy of Italy (also Greece as well) for many years was basically not to care much about the immigration problem, even make a show of one’s own humanity, in the expectation that those Africans and other non-European migrants wouldn’t stay permanently in Italy, but only pass through on their way to Northern European welfare states. That only changed once large numbers of the migrants stayed in Italy and caused trouble.
    Anyway, I’d rather end this discussion which has gotten rather ugly (partly my own fault since I got overly emotional). Unlike the impression I may have given above, I don’t wish ill on Italy and Italians and would prefer cooperation for mutual benefit. But the current crisis (which will certainly get worse in Germany as well) puts intense strain on all of us, Italians need to understand that there are no magic solutions.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Catiline
  357. German_reader says:
    @utu

    While annoying I dismissed her as a person of limited intelligence and lack of integrity in hope that Italians from more educated classes would not be so.

    There’s actually a substantial literature by Italian academics (mostly lefties I suppose) deconstructing the WW2 (“brava gente“) myths. It doesn’t seem to have had much impact on popular political debate though.

  358. Wielgus says:
    @Philip Owen

    The Nazis were only in power for 12 years and the Ruhr was heavily bombed 1942-45. I think before and after, Germans just organise public health better. A British POW captured in 1916 was sent to work in a German mine and was impressed how much safer it was compared to the mine he had worked in back in Britain.

  359. Robjil says:
    @KenH

    This is article explains how the ZUS empire is an empire of bases.

    https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/153/26119.html

    As distinct from other peoples, most Americans do not recognize — or do not want to recognize — that the United States dominates the world through its military power. Due to government secrecy, our citizens are often ignorant of the fact that our garrisons encircle the planet. This vast network of American bases on every continent except Antarctica actually constitutes a new form of empire — an empire of bases with its own geography not likely to be taught in any high school geography class. Without grasping the dimensions of this globe-girdling Baseworld, one can’t begin to understand the size and nature of our imperial aspirations or the degree to which a new kind of militarism is undermining our constitutional order.

    Our military deploys well over half a million soldiers, spies, technicians, teachers, dependents, and civilian contractors in other nations. To dominate the oceans and seas of the world, we are creating some thirteen naval task forces built around aircraft carriers whose names sum up our martial heritage — Kitty Hawk, Constellation, Enterprise, John F. Kennedy, Nimitz, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Carl Vinson, Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, John C. Stennis, Harry S. Truman, and Ronald Reagan. We operate numerous secret bases outside our territory to monitor what the people of the world, including our own citizens, are saying, faxing, or e-mailing to one another.

  360. Wielgus says:
    @utu

    There was an odd paradox, in that the northern part of Italy where the left was strongest was the last part where the fascist order lost control. Southern and central Italy where the fascists were more popular was lost in 1943-44. Grim fighting, reprisals etc. were common in northern Italy as partisans and fascists such as the Black Brigades slugged it out with each other.
    When push came to shove, Mussolini could not even trust his own bodyguard in 1943.

  361. Dumbo says:
    @German_reader

    Salvini is apparently making a lot of anti-EU noises, so who knows, maybe the EU will break apart.

    Hopefully. Germany was the main beneficiary of the euro and the EU, so of course they want to keep it. For the others it hasn’t been good. Maybe also Germany should stop pushing migrants on Italy and other countries – most of those NGOs “saving” African migrants in the coast of Libya and bringing them to Italy (why not Germany?) are German. Why should Italy thank Germany for anything?

    https://www.dw.com/en/german-migrant-rescue-boat-carrying-88-people-allowed-to-dock-in-italy/a-51088327

    https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/17830/female-captain-vs-ll-capitano-how-a-german-defies-salvini

  362. glib says:
    @German_reader

    I am italian and I know the crimes committed by the Germans were mild, just a notch above those committed by fascists against italians 1943-1945. Several notches above(I am guessing a factor of ten) are the crimes committed by the USA. In my own village there were two (supposed fascist sympathizers) shot by the partisans right after the war, one killed by US bombs, about ten partisans killed mostly by fascists although some of them were killed by friendly fire.

    In the nearby city, 750 killed by the US, less than 100 of the other two categories.

  363. KenH says:
    @Anonymous

    Dude, the network of American military bases, something like 800 big and small worldwide, may not be a sign of “colonization”, but they are tools of “empire”.

    I’m well aware of that and hate it. It’s invade the world, invite the world. But wherever we have troops stationed they don’t comprise more than .0025% of that nation’s population. Contrast that with America who’s taken in a little more than 20% of Mexico’s population since 1965 and by some estimates more than that with Central America. Asians now make up 5-6% of the American population.

    I’d rather America have 100,000 foreign troops but be 85% or more white instead of the tens of millions of non-whites who’ve emigrated here since 1965 . Our military bases aren’t fundamentally altering the demographics of the nations they are in.

    But it’s a very big loss for the third world – their smart people go overseas, taking their talent with them (I figure it this way: Talent = Long Term Wealth)

    America became the best nation in the world without them. We don’t need them. Have you worked with any? Most of them are not the geniuses they’re billed as and they’re only here for the money and because life is better here than in India or wherever else they’re from. They also exploit the system by overstaying their visas, having anchor babies and if they’re legal immigrants, sponsoring their entire extended family tree. Breitbart did a story about two Indian workers who arrived in the 1980’s and since that time have brought over 100 members of their family to the U.S.

    Whites have a right to their own nation just like non-whites do.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin, Kal
  364. All sides are coming across pretty shitty in his mess except Russia and Iran.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  365. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Italexit would be most welcome”

    Italians are net-takers from the EU. Why would a leech leave its host?

    • Replies: @glib
    , @Catiline
  366. JimB says:

    Let me see if I got this right: I must be eternally grateful to the person who shot me if he offers me a dirty band aid after the assault.

    Fuhgeddaboudit! China can take their band aid… and stick it.

  367. Hacienda says:
    @Priss Factor

    That’s right. Russia is doing extremely well. Cui bono?
    Russia, too, attended the Wuhan games.

  368. glib says:
    @Priss Factor

    to trade with Eurasia, of course.

  369. nebulafox says:
    @German_reader

    Wasn’t there a lot of collaboration in Western Europe in general before it became clear that the Axis was going to lose?

  370. @Pft

    Your last paragraph totally undermines the rest of your post. What an astonishing feat of self-awareness.

  371. @Franklin Ryckaert

    How are Finno-Ugric languges “European”? Arguably the Finnish branch which has been in dark and cold corners of NE Europe for millenia; but the Hungarians are relatively recent invaders from the Urals region. And no, Finno-Ugric languages are not related to Indo-European in any meaningful way. Their immediate putative sister super-family is Altaic super-family (comprising Mongolian, Turcic and Tungusic), but even there the divergence would have happened around 10 thousand years ago. As to any connections to the Indo-European family, they are even more tenuous and archaic. There is literally nothing left in common between Finno-Ugric and Indo-European families; the former are agglutinative and the latter are largely fusional (and a couple of the younger ones, such as English, are even analytic).

  372. anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Very noble of you to offer assistance after the CCP called upon its diaspora back in February to loot our countries of medical supplies, leaving us short of supplies in our time of need. Very noble, indeed. Actions speak much louder than words, you disingenuous Chinese bug.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/former-chinese-military-man-behind-export-of-tonnes-of-medical-supplies-20200330-p54f8a.html
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/second-developer-flies-82-tonnes-of-medical-supplies-to-china-20200326-p54e8n.html
    China didn’t care for our welfare then and it most certainly doesn’t now. Rather, I think that China is beginning to understand the magnitude of the resentment building worldwide over the pandemic it created; a pandemic that could easily have been contained, had China been open and upfront about the scale of the epidemic it was facing instead of hiding information and trying to save face (in true Chinese fashion).
    The world will never forget what China has done.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Chinaman
  373. Malla says:
    @Catiline

    German Nazis were (and are) anti-Italian. You reap what you sow.

    Oy vey, that is why the Germans had to go into the Balkans, Greece and North Africa during WW2, places they had no interest in going, just to help their Italian buddies. Their Italian allies wanted Roman Empire 2.0, an empire they were er… you know….having a little trouble conquering, you know lost to those Ethiopian fuzzy wuzzies too…, so you know, needed some German help. You know if facing Ethiopian fuzzy wuzzy was so hard, how would it be when you face real tough enemies like the Greeks or an even tougher challenge, like the British Army?
    Germany could have used those German forces sent south, against the Soviets. I think as time went by, Hitler had wished, he never had his useless alliance with Mussolini & Italy.
    And Germany’s defeat brought us this reinforced (Jew) New World Order for which, all us billions of goyim suffer. You reap what you sow.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @utu
    , @ivan
  374. @Malla

    Who or what influenced Mussolini to invade Greece?

    glib — interesting comment @372. Maybe you have information about Mussolini’s influencers?

    imo, Mussolini, Fascism, and Italy in WWII are the subject of very little revisionist research, more’s the pity.

    • Replies: @glib
    , @Malla
    , @glib
    , @Catiline
  375. kgbgb says:
    @utu

    OK, they can stay but only if they learn European language.

    Hungarian may not be Indo-European, but it is a core member of the ‘Standard Average European’ sprachbund. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Average_European)

    (However, the language of my father, Welsh, is not, because its grammar is too similar to Semitic languages. Some people claim that the Insular Celtic languages were influenced by a pre-Indo-European substrate related to Phoenecian. Do I have to go ‘back’ to Lebanon?)

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    , @utu
  376. utu says:
    @Malla

    Wasn’t it Churchill who upon learning from a German politician that Italy is to become an ally of Germany said: You can have them, they were our ally in the last war?

    • LOL: Malla
  377. @kgbgb

    Interesting comment. The Insular Celtic languages are thoughtto have started diverging about 900 BC when the Phonecians took over the copper and tin trade. Eiru is allegedly Copper and Pretan, tin. I can’t remember the source. There are claims of Phonecian names all teh way up to the Orkneys and of course Thanet in Kent.

  378. Seraphim says:
    @Plato's Dream

    The debate over the origin of European languages is ongoing and occasion of a little war between linguists, archaeologists and geneticians.
    But a good introduction is the work of Mario Alinei and his school. You will find an ample material
    @http://www.continuitas.org/intro.html:
    “THE PALEOLITHIC CONTINUITY PARADIGM FOR THE ORIGINS OF INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGES”.

  379. utu says:
    @kgbgb

    The Welsh can stay. For all serious purposes you all speak English. Welsh language is just a hobby for a reinvented language. No different than Esperanto for its aficionados.

    • Replies: @kgbgb
    , @Alfred
  380. ivan says:
    @Catiline

    I followed the debates circa 1991/92, around the time the British were forced out of the ERM by Soros. I recall it as I wrote : The Italians were (as always) feared to be next in line. Things may have changed subsequently, and wheels within wheels whirred on regardless, but I am not up to speed on that.

  381. ivan says:
    @Malla

    One of Churchill’s dreams was to inflict a devastating blow on the Nazis, through “the soft underbelly of Europe”. Hitler forestalled that for Nazi Germany’s purposes. He didn’t go in to save the Italian bacon. While the number of units the Germans deployed may be fewer than say the Russian front, they were among the best troops the Germans had. The British were in a position to dominate to Mediterranean through the might of the Royal Navy. It was no pipe dream that Churchill had.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Malla
  382. Seraphim says:
    @anonymous

    How is that now Australia organizes fleets of Airfreight to export all its fresh seafood and other agricultural products to ‘key international markets’ (China, Hong Kong in the first place) while limiting the amounts of food that the Australians can buy when they are permitted to go shopping? All repaid with “vital medical supplies, medicines and equipment, which will be critical to the ongoing health response”.

  383. glib says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    It is possible that there were influencers, but a naive, autarkic elite probably explains fascism in a simple way. I started thinking about how Italy came to be only one year ago and I have not gotten very far. Mazzini was a free-mason, heavily helped by London. The Savoy were also helped heavily by France and England. Somehow the Savoy were also gifted all of Southern Italy, something they did not want.

    My guess is that the plan was all along to unify Italy so that some day Italy would go to war against the Austro-Hungarian empire. That duly happened. After that, the poor economy of the interwar period generated new political and economic models in Europe that needed to be squashed. That happened too.

    Finally, after the postwar economic boom generated new aspirations and the natural and irresistible rise of the communist party, Operation Gladio, Berlinguer and Moro’s assassinations, temporarily held back the tide. Around 1990, a local DA with ties to Michael Ledeen, heavily promoted by the press, destroyed the old political system, deemed too nationalistic evidently. The italian state industry was bought by the City of London at pennies on the dollar, after a meeting where the two only italians present were Draghi and Grillo. That initiated 28 years of economic decline to this day. With the political class so compromised, it is normal that Italy be the “epicenter” of the virus, with 10% mortality rates generated out of thin air with a simple accounting trick.

    Long term, Italy seems ready to cease as a nation, having fulfilled its globalist role. It will break apart, and pieces will be absorbed in new entities.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Malla
  384. Chinaman says:
    @anonymous

    Have you wondered what if trump took WHO seriously and didn’t call it a Hoax? take advantage of that golden opportunity to stop it. we even genetically Sequenced it for the world, is that not being open, dumbass ? What if white people were more disciplined and didn’t go on spring break? What if they wore masks like every Asian did?

    Grow up and learn to take some Personal responsibility for your own failings. stop acting like a spoiled brat.

    Realistically, the question is what you going to do about it ? Whole Anglo Saxon world gang up on China like the 18th century? Start WW3? Ask for reparations?

    China is the largest trading partner of all the Western countries and responsible for half of global GDP growth, any of actions above will lead to million of unemployment in the west. Have this virus not exposed how fragile the burger flipping economy is? do you want it to get worse ? Your whole economy will collapse if China stop buying.

    Yeah, I guess you just got laid off and justifiably pissed. Yeah, blame the Chinaman. Go Physically assault a random one on the street whether they are Chinese or Not. Show your true colours and let that monster out. Shoot them, DO IT.

    P.s. btw, If you Don’t want to forget, remember to tell your grandchildren.

    • Replies: @Kal
    , @Kal
  385. FB says: • Website

    Look Folks…you want to get ahead in life and be somebody, as opposed to just a nobody…

    Look folks one of the things that’s for sure on this discussion board is you people are totally nuts…

    This is only natural, because the dumbest get out of the way first…after that, the people who want to fight get something going…

    Look…I don’t care about covid 19 chickentshits because the entire world had been giving us this crap…it’s not really that bad…see, I’m, a retard and I say so so, based on nothing at all…never mind that doctors are now calling in sick and staying home…good luck when your lungs can’t breathe…

  386. utu says:
    @glib

    “My guess is that the plan was all along to unify Italy so that some day Italy would go to war against the Austro-Hungarian empire.” – Good guess but destruction of the Papal State was also an important objective

    • Replies: @glib
  387. @ivan

    The British were in a position to dominate to Mediterranean through the might of the Royal Navy. It was no pipe dream that Churchill had.

    Andrew Buchanan argues that FDR instructed Mark Clark to ignore the plan of joint British-American action to take Rome and trap Germans, in favor of Clark taking Rome himself and allowing German fighters to escape.
    This gave Americans dominion over the Mediterranean as well as control of Italian politics: Americans closed off Rome to all other diplomats, including British, while they made pacts with Communists and deposed Badoglio.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?322137-1/discussion-us-engagement-italy-world-war-ii

    • Replies: @ivan
  388. @Jake

    the Anglo-Zionist Empire, or the new German Empire

    A distinction without a difference.

    Germany was hollowed out by zionist Jews, its soul replaced by zioholocausters.

  389. Kal says:
    @Chinaman

    The WHO denied it was an international emergency for a very long time. They were downplaying it on record. Acting like the WHO acted with any integrity is a stretch.

    China and Chinese people should be shamed because if they don’t stop with the eating of exotic animals there is always the possibility of further mor extreme outbreaks. An outbreak like this was predicted ever since SARs in 2003. CCP didn’t bother to force the people to stop their eating habits because the people kept fighting them on it. Not only that but the actions by China and their diaspora spread it all around the world. They covered it up; paid the WHO to tell everyone internationally it wasn’t an issue. Allowed massive amounts of people to leave. This idea they handled this situation perfectly is ridiculous. They had turn to unethical means to stop the spread.
    Even if western countries had closed the border, this virus would have still gotten through because it is that infectious and because of the actions of China.

    Western governments could have handled it better and they majorly messed up without a doubt. But that doesn’t excuse behavior of the Chinese diaspora from Wenzhou in Italy. Protesting and allying with leftists and jews calling people xenophobic and evil for saying they should be quarantined. That is just one example of the diaspora acting horribly and putting the host populations at risk.

    Godfree Roberts acting like the U.S. and European media haven’t been running nonstop covering and defense for China is bs. They literally keep telling people it didn’t come from China that’s racist.

    Long term, whites should have nothing to do with China. Trade needs to be done with other partners. America’s government should install the same protectionist policies for business as China has and extricate themselves from China. The whole thing is doubtful though if that is possible now. I won’t hold my breath though because the greed of the financial oligarchs in the U.S. and other western countries is insatiable. The idea this virus is from the U.S. is a blatant Chinese cope and something to save face. Personally, I don’t hate the Chinese. I hate sinophiles who think you people are this group to admire.

    • Troll: Seraphim
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Chinaman
  390. Kal says:
    @Chinaman

    The only attitude Europe and the European
    diaspora should have towards China is this 师夷长技以制夷.
    Also, ps. acting like it is whites going around beating Asians is laughable, when anybody can look at the videos and see blacks going after you folks.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  391. Malla says:
    @glib

    My guess is that the plan was all along to unify Italy so that some day Italy would go to war against the Austro-Hungarian empire.

    Sometimes I wonder if my country of India was united by the British (London power) for some similar purpose for the future, a nation which has not been united much of its history. Maybe a united India created to be one day to be rammed against a Communist China in the future, two huge populations giants rammed against each other.
    Of course a Communist China seemed planned too. Imperial Japan and nationalists fighting it out, Imperial Japan (the biggest obstacle to the spread of Communism in East Asia) conveniently destroyed by the USA, Chinese nationalists back-stabbed by the USA in the civil war, Nixon goin to Communist China and soon American oligarchs sending capital and technology in exchange for high IQ/ productive Chinese labour (who cannot form labour unions in a Communist country, ironic no?). Soon you have China, the Communist (+ Capitalist) superpower.
    And on the other side, even post 1947 India has benefited enormously from technology/capital transfers from the West, USSR/Russia and Japan/S.Korea. Looks interesting.

  392. Malla says:
    @Kal

    Long term, whites should have nothing to do with China.

    Long term, Whites should have nothing to do with all non Whites except maybe the Japanese and maybe Koreans.

    • Agree: Kal
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  393. Malla says:
    @ivan

    He didn’t go in to save the Italian bacon.

    He actually did save Italy as the Italians were falling short in martial skills for their ambitions. Germany had to militarily bail out Italy all the time.

    This is the English translation of the private conversion in between the Fuhrer of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler and the Finnish military leader and statesman, Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim . This was secretly recorded.
    Adolf Hitler:
    “First the occupation of – then we had the task in Norway – at the same time we faced – I can frankly say it today – a grave misfortune, namely the weakness of, Italy. Because of – first, the situation in North Africa, then second, because of the situation in Albania and Greece – a very big misfortune. We had to help. This meant for us, with one small stoke, first – the splitting of our air force, splitting of our tank force, while at the same time we were preparing, the, tank arm in the east.
    We had to hand over – with one stroke, two divisions, two whole divisions and a third was added – and we had to replace continuous, very severe, losses there. It was – bloody fighting in the desert.”

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @ivan
    , @Alfred
    , @Dumbo
  394. Malla says:
    @anon

    Having abnormally low testosterone is not a sign of a healthy vigorous race.

    The Chinese along with the Japanese & Koreans regularly trounce Middle Easterners, South Asians, South East Asians, Central Asians etc… in Olympic like sports like the Asian Games. Looks like healthy vigorous race to me.

    Or all Asians including mixed brown Cuacasoids like Middle Easterners & South Asians are low T compared to Europeans and black Africans.

  395. @Plato's Dream

    Here is a map of the Finno-Ugrian languages in Europe. Hungarian is only a small part of it :

    The presence of Finno-Ugrian in Europe is older than that of Indo-European. Perhaps you consider Basques as “non-European” too?

    • Replies: @Plato's Dream
  396. Malla says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Who or what influenced Mussolini to invade Greece?

    No idea other than what you would get on say Wiki.

  397. Pegasus says:
    @Alfred

    The original statement came fron the ISS, Istituto Superiore di Sanità, the main sanitary authority in Italy; you can find it here (in italian):
    https://www.agenzianova.com/a/5e7386e1cd95d7.83489443/2851029/2020-03-13/coronavirus-iss-in-italia-i-decessi-finora-accertati-per-causa-del-covid-19-sono-solo-due/linked
    I will add the essential point: it is a statement from the chief of our sanitary organization dated the 13 of March and referring to a sample of some more than a hundred cases of death scrutinized, so very few: the people dead from Sars-coV-2 which had no other pathology are two in the whole country. Of course there are lots that had two or three, or even more, serious pathologies which concurred to their end, the virus infection possibly being the last push.
    In general everything seems so irreal. Salute.

  398. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Catiline

    In addition to being morally defective yourself, you are also intellectually defective, a far more serious matter

    The greater evil is being morally defective.

  399. With the publishing of this article, your emag.has become fully discredited. Now you belong in the heap with CNN, the NY Times and the others.

  400. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Also according to film-maker and close friend of Adolf Hitler, Leni Riefenstahl, in her book ‘Leni Riefenstahl’s Memoiren’ claimed that Hitler said that “if the Italians hadn’t attacked Greece and needed our help, the war would have taken a different course. We could have anticipated the Russian cold by weeks and conquered Leningrad and Moscow. There would have been no Stalingrad.”

  401. Sam J. says:
    @Chinaman

    “…even the white nationalists who yearn for my demise and China’s fall…”

    I bet most White Nationalist want nothing of the kind. We want our own country controlled by us, mostly, and trade terms we can live with. Looking after ourselves is hardly hating on anyone. As a matter of fact this post sounds suspiciously like just another Jew bull horn rant that unless we give up our countries completely and lose all control it’s “hate”.

  402. kgbgb says:
    @utu

    Welsh language is just a hobby for a reinvented language.

    If you ever become tired of life, walk into a pub in north Wales and say that.

    Welsh is not like Hebrew or Cornish – a dead language brought back to life by enthusiasts for political or cultural purposes. A significant population speak it as their first language, as did their ancestors for thousands of years without a break.

    Mind you, politicos have tried to force its use beyond its natural extent. I come from what used to be the English county of Monmouthshire, which was separate from Wales but administered as part of it – Welsh institutions were officially all labelled as covering “Wales and Monmouthshire”. The west of the county felt quite Welsh (though mainly English-speaking), the east totally English. My father had to learn Welsh because he was a civil servant at the Welsh Office. About the time I went off to university, Monmouthshire became the Welsh county of Gwent, and it has made a big difference. As a boy, I knew more people who self-identified as Jewish than as Welsh – my best friend was considered quite eccentric for claiming to be Welsh, and nobody took him seriously. Now everything official – including road signage – is bilingual.

  403. glib says:
    @utu

    possibly. But IMHO Wien was much more powerful. It was also a different political model, geo-politically well placed. The popes were in bed with global finance already, and had been for a long time. A chunk of the Federal Reserve belongs to a secretive banking family near Rome…

  404. glib says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Also, in regard to Greece. Without a doubt a move that helped dilute German strength, and ultimately improved the chances of Russia’s survival. As in my previous post, it must have been naivete’. The forces behind Mussolini were landed aristocracy and elite bourgeois. Of course whatever industry existed, owners were also behind Mussolini for fear of getting nationalized, but not from the beginning. Early supporters included local rich families you have never heard of. The ideology was shallow, and the people in positions of power often scions of said families.

    Keep in mind that Italy had launched colonial wars prior to Mussolini. Ethiopia in the 1890s, Lybia in 1911. Mussolini continued both. All ill-advised moves for a country that needed to develop first. This seems a case where incompetence is sufficient to explain what happened. The 1926 nationalization of banks shows they had their heart in the right place, but not the needed acumen to trace a successful path during that period.

  405. On a similar note, Germany stole 200000 masks intended for Switzerland.
    The Swiss government had ordered them from China fairly early on; they arrived by ship, and since Switzerland is landlocked, they arrived in a German port — where they were confiscated by German authorities because “exporting masks is illegal” (but wasn’t at the time Switzerland ordered them from China).

    Germany is back to being a ruthless fascist dictatorship. And even the Swiss media are shutting up about it because they want to push the Swiss into joining the Fourth Reich AKA German-controlled EU.

    • Replies: @Fox
  406. Chinaman says:
    @Kal

    China and Chinese people should be shamed because if they don’t stop with the eating of exotic animals there is always the possibility of further mor extreme outbreaks. An outbreak like this was predicted ever since SARs in 2003. CCP didn’t bother to force the people to stop their eating habits because the people kept fighting them on it.

    1. Can the US government stop you from eating steak by decree?
    2. Can the US government stop blacks from murdering whites?
    3. Assuming you are white, are you ashamed of the behavior of blacks and Jews in America?
    4. if you are ashamed, why don’t you do something about it?
    5. can you stop the Jews from taking over your governemnt ?
    6. Is it ok to physically assault you on the street because of what blacks and Jews do?

    As I said above, I would be the first to lynch the fuckers who were eating bats and caused this pandemic (even though it is speculation and we don’t have ANY evidence of that) No, I am not ashamed of these Wuhan “Batman” since I have never been to Wuhan and I am Vegan. There is 1.4 billion people and neither I nor the CCP should be held accountable for all their actions just as you shouldn’t be held responsible for the actions of your blacks and Jews.

    I am pretty sure we will have better success controlling these Wuhan fuckers than you can control your blacks once this is all over.

    Does it make sense now once I put it in context of white people’s predicament in America? It is so easy to point fingers to China and the CCP and be all sanctimonious about it. Look in the mirror first.

    Don’t throw bricks if you live in a glasshouse…do you know how stupid you look by writing all that BS?

    long term, whites should have nothing to do with China. Trade needs to be done with other partners. America’s government should install the same protectionist policies for business as China has and extricate themselves from China.

    Can you control what your government does?
    Can you control what the American Jews do ?
    Do you think white people own America?
    who owns American?

    Even the Chinese have more influence on American policies than white people do….

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Kal
    , @Ber
  407. Chinaman says:
    @Kal

    China and Chinese people should be shamed because if they don’t stop with the eating of exotic animals there is always the possibility of further mor extreme outbreaks.

    Oh, while you trying to control your blacks, can you and the US government stop white people- trophy hunters- from the senseless, deplorable and barbaric act of lion and elephant hunting in Africa. they are not only exotic, they are endangered wild animals.

    https://www.revealnews.org/article/lion-hunting-is-booming-and-americans-do-most-of-the-killing/

    white people and the US government should be ashamed.

    I know killing for fun is a prerogative of the white man and it is in your blood to kill something innocent but can you just shoot your black animals instead? at least they are not innocent…

    • Replies: @Kal
  408. Fox says:
    @Stop Bush and Clinton

    You are not naming those who ultimately put the current regime in Germany in power, but I could give you some prominent authorship names, such as Morgenthau, Nizer, Kaufman, and of course your heroes Roosevelt and Churchill.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Stop Bush and Clinton
  409. @Fox

    Just what gave you the idea that criminals like Roosevelt and Churchill would be my heroes?
    Just the fact that I call the EU the Fourth Reich, and therefore must be Anti-Third Reich?

    My take on that is that Hitler, Roosevelt, Churchill and all were all in on the same game (just like the Bushes and Saddam Hussein were madly in love before suddenly they decided they need to wage war).

    Hitler’s assigned task was to fail, create a pretext for the creation of Israel, and make some ideas unmentionable ever after.

    The task of those you mention was to make sure Hitler would fail and to establish the (even then) intended Fourth Reich, the EU.

    They’re all on the same team even when they appear to be fighting, just like the EU and US governments today.

    • Replies: @Fox
  410. @Anonymous

    Russia had even tighter cross border controls than Trump introduced to the USA. Both of those policies bought time. Time is useless unless you do something with it. All US politicians in power (whether Democrat or Republican) did nothing and now claim that, if only they’d had 2 more months of doing nothing, something would have done itself. Russia had more time and now we’ll see whether they’ve done anything. So far, it looks just like the US explosion. I feel that Russians won’t be like the US losers but I can’t substantiate that. That’s probably just my bias. A lot of countries have failed badly, not just the US. Who would have predicted that Switzerland would be one of the worst? Who would have predicted that the UK would be worse than Iran? It’s not surprising that the USA has already done 10 times worse than China; anybody could have made that prediction. Fighting an epidemic is a socialist activity and the USA is prouder than ever that they do socialism badly. Another easy one was that Israel would be as bad as the USA for a while because of the tight links between Israel and New York. After a short time, Israel will do as well as its politically powerful ultra-orthodox let it do. Who can predict that? Attitudes often change dramatically when ideology faces reality. Even the USA is capable of aping China. [email protected]

  411. Fox says:
    @Stop Bush and Clinton

    As I come to understand the meaning of what you are writing, your basic belief is that the annihilation of Central Europe as a goal by Churchill, Roosevelt and by needs, Stalin, was a necessary step in the evolution of the world; otherwise, you would not assume the vocabulary of the powers overwhelming Germany in 1945 and keeping her under total control (thus, Germany cannot challenge the ridiculous Nuremberg judicial farce, it cannot challenge the losses of territory and population before, during and after the war, as the new Article 231 of the Dictate-Peace of Versailles had been implied and then signed by representatives of the Federal Republic of Germany, the Enemy State Clauses are still in force at the United Nations).
    Hence, you either don’t understand (what, why, when, who) what had happened leading up to the beginning of the War in 1939, or you turn everything Germany did in defense against the combined Allied onslaught against her (in the end, the Allies had made about 60 nations to declare war on Germany) into a fascist or barbaric crime, just as the Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin wanted it to be seen. To their efforts you must also add the output of their hate propaganda units, the products of which having taken over rational political discourse worldwide, blinding even otherwise intelligent people to the completely different reality that actually happened as opposed to the.

  412. Smith says:

    Italy changes tunes depending on who gives them gibs, it’s not a loyal nation.

    China is doing PR, I say let them do it, it won’t change anything because people are always distrustful of chinese.

  413. Kal says:
    @Chinaman

    Are you serious?
    The China has wrecked it’s wildlife population and environment. Chinese person talking about that is laughable. China is one of the largest polluters and destroyers of the earth. The hunters of big game are cringe, but there is no equivalency to what Chinese people do. It is whites that are the ones always pushing for better for care of the environment and it is your countrymen that defend destroying populations for tradition.

  414. ivan says:
    @Malla

    LOL!!! The Italians very wisely decided to give up fighting unnecessarily. If Mussolini made a pact with the Allies the Allies would have a free run to strike the German underbelly. That is how things work. And no please I don’t consider Shitler my Fuehrer.

    • Replies: @Malla
  415. Kal says:
    @Chinaman

    Maybe, I should have qualified that “in a perfect world” whites would have nothing to do with you. Since, you like to imply whites are the ones attacking you people and what whites really want is to hurt all Chinese. Who knows who is in control of America? That wasn’t the point of the post; work on your English. The word “should” is referring to what is “right” or the “best” course of action doesn’t imply it is going to happen or that I have the personal power to make it happen. Look at your own post, “what should white people do? Start WW3?” Whites “should” having nothing to do with you.

    When in reality, you people go on and on online about how much you want to destroy Western countries and talk about hurting white people. Last time, I checked you people love to call whites 绑匪, but when it comes to stealing and thieving Chinese can never control themselves.

    The argument the CCP could not stop them could have merit, but the CCP is always bullying and pressuring its citizens. Or they could have spent time on propaganda against the habit. The CCP forces the people constantly to do things; it is a dictatorship. Comparing that to America which is basically a banana republic now. “Can the government stop us from eating steak?” Probably not, but eating steak doesn’t cause the outbreak of deadly diseases and there is no actual rationale for something like that other than in your deluded Vegan mind.

    The idea of shame and the globe shaming China for that behavior would help stop it in the future instead of sweeping it under the rug and blaming the U.S. for an internal problem that has been known to cause outbreaks for years.

    Also, hunting game is one thing while engaging in a habit that causes outbreaks of infectious diseases is another.
    But I get it, you think pointing to a hobby that has of whites that is hard to control and say that hobby is the equivalent for Chinese people eating exotic animals. Government doesn’t stop hunting game because they don’t care just like the Chinese government won’t stop your countrymen. Also, when laws are passed, whites tend to obey them where as Chinese people spend their time figuring out how to bend or break them without getting caught.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
    , @Chinaman
  416. ivan says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thank you for the interesting link. The sainted FDR, who spied on everyone, held Churchill in mild contempt as a drunk. The British American affair is a sad case of unrequited love.

  417. Alfred says:
    @utu

    Welsh language is just a hobby for a reinvented language. No different than Esperanto for its aficionados.

    Like Hebrew

    • Replies: @utu
  418. Alfred says:
    @Malla

    Italy was importing its coal from the UK. Hitler promised Mussolini to make up for its loss with German coal. That clinched the argument and Mussolini made his pact with Hitler.

    Of course, Hitler never delivered the promised amounts of coal. It is impossible to wage war without adequate supplies of coal and oil

    • Replies: @Fox
  419. Dumbo says:
    @Malla

    It was Germany who “convinced” Mussolini to enter the war. Italy should have done like Franco’s Spain and sit it out. But Mussolini had stupid imperial ambitions and thought the stupid Führer was the winning horse.

    • Replies: @Fox
  420. Chinaman says:
    @Kal

    I checked you people love to call whites 绑匪,

    Nah…we call you ghosts…鬼…Doesn’t matter. I don’t need to work on my English. You can understand me. You need to work on your chinese.

    But I get it, you think pointing to a hobby that has of whites that is hard to control

    You still don’t get it.

    The point of my riposte is not to exonerate the hypothetical Wuhan batman or to shame the trophy hunters or any despicable behavior that humans engage in. It is to illustrate that we act as individuals and the root of racism is stereotyping and to conflate some individual’s behavior with a propensity of a group. 90% of Chinese and 90% of Americans don’t eat exotic animals or hunt lions. I am sure neither of us do and we can’t control what others do so why are you ( or we) blaming or shaming each other for these things ? A lifelong vegan shaolin monk who live his life with much more discipline and purpose than either of us would feel quite indignant of all your asinine accusations.

    If I came here and said that Bats and dogs are a delicacy, you should rightfully denounce those acts. But I actually AGREE with you so you are preaching to the converted and blaming them and their government for acts that they didn’t commit.

    This is the stupidity of racism or how it have been used to justify every crime against humanity in history. White people have conducted more genocide and war crimes based on such spurious and false narratives than any other race. It is probably how your brain is wired but I implore you to use your prefrontal cortex to rein in those reptilian impulses. ( how’s my use of english here?)

    We can keep pointing fingers, shout profanities at each other and feel a bit sanctimonious about ourselves after that. Ultimately, It is mental masturbation in public and just inane and pointless on an internet forum like this.

    • Replies: @Kal
  421. Chinaman says:
    @Kal

    when laws are passed, whites tend to obey them where as Chinese people spend their time figuring out how to bend or break them without getting caught.

    Since you brought it up, the evidence suggest Chinese are much more law abiding than whites and blacks in general. Look at the crime stats of asian American. Ron Unz have done a great study on this. We commit crimes at half the crime rate of whites. ( if memory serves)

    Please stop being an exhibitionist, you are embarrassing your countryman.

  422. @anon

    Up to the onset of Covid-19, the tsunamis of global propaganda from the US and her “allies” have been unrelenting. Covid-19 is now telling the world what the true meaning of the “alliance” has meant – zilch. Even before Covid, the vast majority in the rest of the impotent world had recognized the propaganda for what it was. But now the chickens have come home to roost. I doubt the lessons will be learned though. When Covid dissipates and life acquires some normalcy, normal business will resume. An avalanche of post-Covid propaganda will be launched targeting the usual suspects. The capitalist imperial behemoth will not go down without a fight.

  423. Chinaman says:

    Who doing the covering up now?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/navy-removes-aircraft-carrier-captain-who-spoke-out-about-coronavirus-response-from-post/2020/04/02/ddd4c9ae-751e-11ea-a9bd-9f8b593300d0_story.html

    Censuring a whistleblower by removing a captain of the command of a aircraft carrier. Something really fishy here. How did the virus get on a aircraft carrier at sea since December. What are they trying to hide? Who is patient 0 and origin of the virus?

    For those white people who keep bashing China for “cover-up” without a shred of evidence, I would love to hear your comments here .

    • Replies: @Alfred
  424. Alfred says:
    @Chinaman

    Any captain that leaks a letter to his headquarters can be charged with treason. This captain is an idiot. He is lucky if they only cashier him – if they don’t charge him with an offense against military law.

    In my opinion this captain is unfit to command a tugboat. He has no sense of proportion. His sailors are there to do a job. If some of them fall ill, send them to hospital or whatever. The others can remain and the ship can remain operational.

    An aircraft carrier forms a part of an aircraft carrier battle group which often also contains, two guided-missile cruisers, two destroyers, one frigate, two submarines and a supply ship.

    It seems to me that the propaganda of the mainstream media has infected the brain of this cretin. It is his headquarters that makes the decision as to whether he remains on duty or not. They were perfectly aware of the situation without his letter. He has been persuaded that a lot of his sailors will perish. Firstly, that is what they enlisted for. Secondly, they will almost certainly all survive this grossly exaggerated flu.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  425. Kal says:
    @Chinaman

    鬼 is another one. having numerous names doesn’t make a difference.

    Complains about racism than precedes to make racist statements about whites.

    Noticing a pattern like many outbreaks of infectious diseases can be traced back to China is not racism. That is reality.

    Also, you got me there. Chinese appear to abide the law in the stats in western countries. I guess I am too used to the mainland where stealing happens so often police mostly don’t bother with it.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  426. Chinaman says:
    @Alfred

    Perhaps the circumstances is a bit more complicated than how media portrayed it…much more we don’t know and the captain is already downplaying it ?

    I doubt this guy can get to command an aircraft carrier if he don’t know these basic rules of not stepping over the chain of command.

    Anyway, I am sure the situation must be so serious that he lost his marbles and we don’t actually know half of it. It is a cover up.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  427. Smith says:

    Chinaman (the one here) makes a good case on why chinese can’t be trusted.

    There are 1.4 billion of them, and they are stuck here whining about whites and…vietnamese?

    • Disagree: Ber
  428. Where does stupidity stop and dishonesty begin? China has shipped a lot of stuff, but it doesn’t work. Give them full credit, right?

    The editors must be laughing themselves sick, because a lot of your readers believe it while fixing their tinfoil hats.

  429. Fox says:
    @Alfred

    Oh dear! The coal! Why hadn’t I thought of this before!

    • Replies: @Alfred
  430. Fox says:
    @Dumbo

    Italy entered the war when it became plain that France was to be defeated. Why would Germany want Italy to enter at the point of France’s defeat, when it had refused to at least stand by Germany in 1939, when Ciano blabbed out to the British Ambassador (I think it was at the 18th of August) that Italy would not support Germany? Simply keeping his mouth shut would have not obliged Italy to be involved in any military confrontation, instead he conveyed to the war-minded people in London that they need not worry about the (possible!) involvement of Italy as a foe.
    Blabbing is a dangerous vice.
    Germany rather would want Italy to stay out of a conflict in order to not expand it, which indeed has happened with the self-insertion of Italy.

  431. Alfred says:
    @Chinaman

    Try to imagine the captain of a Chinese aircraft carrier doing something like this. 🤣

    • Agree: Hibernian
  432. Alfred says:
    @Fox

    Oh dear! The coal! Why hadn’t I thought of this before!

    In 1935, there were League of Nations oil and coal sanctions against Italy – for invading Abyssinia. The UK impounded coal carriers heading to Italy. These were released as a sweetener when Ribbentrop went off to Rome. It is a very complicated story. The book “Mussolini Unleashed, 1939-1941” has lots of details

    Energy has always been a weakness of Italy in modern times.

    The 1935 Sanctions against Italy: Would coal and oil have made a difference? (pdf)

  433. Bill Daly says:
    @animalogic

    The only difficulty in any European country exiting the EU is the unrealistic and untruthful beliefs we have about conventional economics and money. When we correct our beliefs and align them with reality there will be no difficulties for any nation wanting to reestablish its rightful sovereignty.

    The global banking fraud will continue just so long as we believe their several centuries lies, such as

    – a nation must export to survive
    – money is wealth
    – full employment is always a good thing

    But these claims are really nonsense. A nation must produce the physical things it’s population require. Foreign trade is fine so long as it helps to fill gaps. The existing pressure for massive exports is just a result of the shortage of purchasing power in the hands of consumers within the home nation.

    Money is not wealth. A man dying of thirst on a desert island urgently needs a drink of water. Even if he had all the money in the world in whatever form he would still die for the lack of drink of water. Real wealth is food, water, housing, etc. Money is a wonderful accounting mechanism enabling an efficient cooperation between people for the production and distribution of our material requirement. It needs to be thought of as an accounting and administrative aspect of an economy, but it is not of itself wealth.

    Full employment is as aspect of a slave mentality. Modern technology has replaced the need for full employment in the traditional sense. Full compulsory employment is an aspect of the puritan ideology that tends to reduce human beings to being economic units. What is wrong with a society properly accepting the benefits of modern technology to reduce retirement ages and working hours but ensuring that all still have access to the fruits of industry by rearranging how money is created and issued without leaving us indebted for ever to the present money-creating global banking system.

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @Ann Nonny Mouse
  434. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    The more I consider such posts by this “chinaman,” quite articulate, brimming with empathetic philanthropy, it seems almost certain that these chinese plants are simply Chi-hasbara… chisbara, if you will.

    They must have been provided with an expense account, as is evident here (btw, who has the logistical means to supply stuff, from Italy to Ukraine, and what are they doing lurking around in tUR?!). Heck, they have even recruited Ma for this.

    Damage control, the chinky way. I hope the world readily consumes all the “damage control” the chinks throw around, for they must surely pay for this, and hopefully one day when this goes away, God willing, to still hold these animal-like eaters to account.

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/australian-prime-minister-scott-morrison-urges-who-un-to-act-against-chinas-wet-markets-2205499?pfrom=home-topstories

    I wonder whether the “reeducation” camps in Xinjiang can be repurposed to house the manimals who consume the most horrifying “diet” known to mankind (bat soup, three squeaks meal, anyone?).

    Does anyone want to debate who the greater terrorists are, given who have terrorised the world more… the Uyghur or the Han?

    • Troll: Seraphim
    • Replies: @Chinaman
    , @showmethereal
  435. Smith says:
    @Bill Daly

    An idle hand is an evil hand, it’s one of the rare things I agree with Christianity.

    Full compulsory employment will keep society busy and paid, which will reduce crimes. And it will also prevent predatory practices such as hiring illegals for cheaper work.

    • Replies: @Aquinas
  436. utu says:
    @Alfred

    “Like Hebrew” Yes when you think of it being constructed and reinvented. But Hebrew because a functional and official language of a country that makes serious decision in Hebrew that impact millions of people while all you can do with Welsh that has any consequence is to order a beer.

  437. @Malla

    Koreans aren’t dumb…. They want to be linked with the rest of Asia…

  438. Chinaman says:
    @anonymous

    “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” adolf hitler

    Let’s stop repeating the same lies and get informed here,

    This is YOUR far right publication’s take on the matter.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/27/coronavirus-covid19-dont-blame-bat-soup-for-the-virus/

    If you really stupid enough to believe that it originated in a wet market, then that place is not in Wuhan, China but Indonesia….where they eat the most horrifying things that even a Chinaman won’t touch. Care for some Pythons steak ?

    These fuckers, the Indonesian and Filipinos, have been eating bats for a millennium.

    Back to coronavirus, It is either a bioweapon leak or it is a bioattack from America. Both parties have been trying to play god here and nature fought back. I honestly don’t care which party is responsible now and it is important we reverse the tide on it.

    I will just say don’t let your hate blind you to the facts…that is…if you care about the truth and not just want to use this as an opportunity to bash China.

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @showmethereal
  439. Smith says:
    @Chinaman

    What matters is Chinese bears the highest “recovered” rate, a staggering over 90%, which is more than say the rest of the world.

    This isn’t by luck, it’s by design.

    Also, it’s objective that this disease starts out in the Wuhan wet market, some of the most dirtiest places on Earth and why the chinks immediately shut it down.

    • Troll: Seraphim
  440. @anonymous

    Be careful when you hope for God’s judgement to come on another…. I bet you probably love to eat pigs and crabs and lobsters…. Foods the bible says are not fit for his people to eat. More people die from pig related diseases than from bats. Take that to the bank.

  441. @Chinaman

    It kind of reminds me of that Republican congress member who said viruses come from China because they eat snakes and bats and dogs. Many of his fellow Texans also roasted him saying how does he not know many people in Texas eat snake… And will eat alligators. Another guy from Michigan listed all the “exotic” animals people eat
    I’ve seen shark in fancy US restaurants. I want these “racial superiorists” (yeah purposely made up term) to tell me why a shark is less “nasty” than a bat. Or why they think a pig is less nasty than pangolin…?? is it because they domesticated one of the planets best garbage cleaners. Don’t the clowns know that even it the great US of A – they used to use pigs in city streets to get rid of garbage before they had things like sewers and proper sanitation…???? They eat oyster as a delicacy when scientists will tell them they filter filth from the waters… It’s all just an excuse to feel superior – but to a thinking or righteous person – they are silly.

    I get my diet from the bible.. Those are off the limits for me. But what I can’t stand are hypocrites.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  442. Patrick says:

    While this article makes some interesting points I must object to the concept of geopolitical alliances. I believe the destiny of each nation is ultimately singular, the only sort of alliance I would support is a partnership between nations who share a common language culture. Perhaps an English speaking alliance, perhaps a alliance of Latin speaking nations. I don’t think we should cross over into allying with culturally alien nations on any level deeper than economic partnerships. And I am not sure we should pursue economic partnerships with China considering the fact a significant portion of their population still eat dogs which goes against Western culture.

  443. @Kal

    Aside from SARS…. What other outbreaks can be TRUTHFULLY traced back to China….??? MERS didn’t start in China. Neither did Swine fever – neither did H1N1 and on and on and on. Yes an avian flu started in China… So did one start in North America. There are multiple of them from multiple origins. So yes there are racists who try to claim some people start more disease than others. They blame HIV on Africa. They also forget a certain race that brought diseases from their continent all around the globe and decimated native populations. That is convenient. HUMAN diseases are just that. Things that can affect HUMANS.

    • Replies: @Smith
  444. Aquinas says:
    @Smith

    An idle hand is an evil hand, it’s one of the rare things I agree with Christianity.

    You must not understand Christianity very well, then, because that truism is a very general statement with profound moral implications. It implies moral statements about temptation, cowardice and/or laziness, a lack of justice, and dullness of mind; basically the entirety of the Christian ethos.

  445. anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    Just how dumb have people gotten lately?

    People who die WITH the virus are not always killed BY the virus. Capisci?

    But mostly there is a direct relationship between getting the virus and dying, as proved by all the available data. Otherwise, hugely disproportionate numbers of people beyond average just happen to be dying for no reason whatsoever. Not likely. You people do realize we can track daily deaths and chart that average versus what we are seeing here, completely disproving that guy’s comment … right?

    “For all we know, it may have no connection to the deaths of even these 12%. There are plenty of other infections and coronaviruses about.”

    It provably does. Normal death rates with seasonal influenza and other viruses are much lower. This spike in deaths cannot reasonably be dismissed by deflecting to other viruses, which we have good data for.

    “Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed”

    There has been a huge spike in deaths beyond the average concomitant with Covid-19 infection; there are lots of examples across many countries and continents. That phenomenon can’t be “misattributed”, however you kooks would like to spin it. The truth is that deaths have likely been underestimated:

    We May Be Underestimating the Coronavirus Death Toll

    Many people believe we’re under-counting the Covid-19 infection rate, but Italian data suggest we may be getting the death numbers wrong too.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-01/coronavirus-italy-shows-we-may-be-underestimating-death-toll

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Alfred
  446. Smith says:
    @showmethereal

    Most diseases in the 21st century start from Asia and Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

    This is unfortunately due to the hygiene and sanitation level of these places. Some parts of China, India and Vietnam are so dirty and the dense population provide a very good incubation environment for the virus.

    But whatever happened, China has the cure, which explains the sky-high recovered rate compared to other countries.

  447. Alfred says:
    @anon

    Otherwise, hugely disproportionate numbers of people beyond average just happen to be dying for no reason whatsoever.

    Where are the numbers for this totally false assertion?

    Here are the numbers of those dying from chest infections in Germany. It is seasonal and it drops every year on schedule. But you won’t find any of this in the lying German media. New York is no longer publishing their flu deaths – because it is all coronavirus now. So obvious. 🙂

  448. Alfred says:
    @anon

    There has been a huge spike in deaths beyond the average concomitant with Covid-19 infection

    The only support that you offer to this false assertion is the Bloomberg article about Italy.

    In Italy, a vast number of carers from the countries of eastern Europe – Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Ukraine etc. were forced to abandon their jobs and to return to their countries. Their countries ordered them to return or else they would be locked out indefinitely.

    When people of an elevated age are deprived of carers, they die not only from neglect (no water) but also because of the shock. Older people are less able to handle surprises like that. In fact, there is a lot of evidence that people can will themselves to die.

    The Bloomberg article never mentions these facts because it is owned by Mr Bloomberg who wanted to buy the presidency.

    Aircraft with Ukrainians evacuated from Italy arrived in Kyiv

  449. Chinaman says:
    @showmethereal

    It’s all just an excuse to feel superior – but to a thinking or righteous person – they are silly.

    That comment is like a stake into the heart of white supremacist vampires here.

    But what I can’t stand are hypocrites.

    I just checked both you and I have written 50,000 words of comments, that’s a short novel…your brilliant observation made me realise why I hang around this nasty mosh pit.

    I feel an uncontrollable urge to call out these white hypocrites. It is become a habit and it is absolutely waste of time.

    Thanks to you, I won’t write another comment again…at least until you reach 100,000 words.

    • Replies: @Smith
    , @Seraphim
  450. Herald says:
    @glib

    So the virus is not too lethal and governments are making most of it up? Well perhaps not so outrageous, when you give it a bit of thought, but it does beg the question of where we go from here? I think before very long we will have a new life saving vaccine, perhaps from one or more of those research people who are funded by cuddly old Bill and other wealthy eugenicists. These caring types are passionate about controlling the population of others and we should always be grateful.

    The vaccine will likely be made compulsory, where they can get away with it without too much fuss. However, in other places or countries, there will still be the very strong fall back position of indefinite lockdown for those who do not have the required proof (electronic of some sort) of their up to date vaccination.

    Dystopia now beckons and is at best only a short ride away.

    • Replies: @glib
  451. TT says:

    Italy has committed unforgivable sins last year for:

    1) Joining China BRI against US-EU warning. Roman, Persian & Chinese are coincidentally three crucial nodes of Ancient Silk Route, each with own long civilization.

    2) Adopting Huawei 5G that will blind the 5Eyes spying on Italians and espionage their commercial secret with Echelon. Italians do have respectable technologies.

    3) Refusal to join USNato hostility towards China & Russia. Its has built cosy relationship with Russian.

    A Italixit and Greecit will be beneficial for these two nations in long term. When British abandoned EU, you know that London shrewd rat has smell the sinking ship. Do while Brexit is still hot, otherwise the isolation punishment of USNato may be too bloody.

  452. Smith says:
    @Chinaman

    White supremacist vampires, really?

    A chink saying this? I wonder what will happen when the chessboard is reverse and the chinks are being genocided, will they be writing 10.000 words or 100.000 words more?

  453. hotrod31 says:
    @anon

    Anon 225, on what basis would you say the writer, or the site is “posting CCP propaganda now”?

    I can’t see anything in the article which cannot be supported and substantiated by other news sources.
    However, do point out what you suspect is frivolous, or propagandist

  454. glib says:
    @Herald

    Also of note, the italian freeway system is getting privatized (sold to foreign capital) as we speak. Aqueducts will be next I think. State industries were privatized in 1992.

    • Replies: @Herald
  455. Jimmy1969 says:

    Eric: Chinese immigrants caused the initial spread of the Virus in Italy.

  456. annamaria says:
    @anon

    Well. You need to ask medical professionals in Italy and the US whether they are CCP propagandists: https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-03-23/Italian-expert-talks-about-strange-pneumonia-cases-in-November-P68sAd0p6o/index.html

    Dr. Giuseppe Remuzzi, director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan:
    …they [general practitioners in the country’s Lombardy region] remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November. This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China.

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-04-05/U-S-doctor-with-flu-in-Jan-tests-positive-for-COVID-19-antibody-Pr1ai87Vte/index.html

    Dr. Peter Antevy, who works for a hospital in South Florida, wrote on his Twitter account, saying he had developed a severe flu-like illness in the first week of January and almost went to seek help. “I got very sick, no sleep for 2 days,” he posted. “Had no idea about what it was.” Antevy checked his COVID-19 antibody status on April 3, and the results came back positive, indicating that he had a past infection.

    http://www.ecns.cn/news/society/2020-04-05/detail-ifzvcazm8250970.shtml

    Comments in Antevy’s post revealed similar situations around the country. Hundreds of users replied to his post, claiming horrible symptoms they had developed in the past several months before the first COVID-19 patient was identified on January 21.

  457. @Anonymous

    Really a huge difference between Russia and China. Russia would never send millions of people to reeducation camps. Russia is a recovering Christian nation — part of the reason our elite hates them. Christians with thousands of nukes! How will we subjugate them?? Russia is just authoritarian enough to keep the Maffia down.

    • Replies: @Anon
  458. Seraphim says:
    @Chinaman

    Your alluding to ‘vampires’ unveils the subconscious fears lurking in the Anglos’ collective imagination, that the designers of the anti-China psyop push.
    I did allude in a previous post that passed unremarked, to the Dr. Fu Manchu (“a master poisoner and chemist, a cunning member of the Yellow Peril… the greatest genius which the powers of evil have put on the earth for centuries”) anti-Chinese serial novels. Dr. Fu Manchu’s murderous plots use “pythons and cobras … fungi, the bacilli … black spiders” and other peculiar animals or natural chemical weapons! All of course for the conquest of the Western world.
    But Fu Manchu had a more famous predecessor, Count Dracula, a filthy ‘Oriental’ too concocting the same murderous plots against the Britisher, shape-shifting as a bat. Exception is that at the time it was the Russian peril that the Britishers were valiantly fighting – “We don’t want to fight but by Jingo if we do/We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, we’ve got the money too/We’ve fought the Bear before, and while we’re Britons true/The Russians shall not have Constantinople” -.

  459. @James Stark

    Give me a potential motive for a con of this magnitude

    Since you ask, I refer the honourable gentleman to the following brief explanation:

    There is one point we did not touch — the economic, which is not part of my competence. We are now blocking the world and, as for Italy, the economy was already at a low point. What do they do? They freeze all activities but keep the stock exchange open. Stocks reach a low bottom. What does it mean? The ultra billionaire can easily purchase companies that are now worth pennies.

    When eventually it will be decided that the (coronavirus) farce is ended — and nothing will end because this virus will continue undaunted to do what it’s doing now (or its evolving strains will do), the ultra-billionaires will own everything. The rich (a degree below the billionaires) will have bought, say, 3–4 restaurants and/or 10 stores that had to close. In summary, all who were rich will be infinitely richer, But we will also have a flood-tide of people who will always be poorer. This will be another consequence of this fake epidemic, perhaps, who knows, created on purpose.

    Try the full article. Believe me. You should:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/04/04/the-coronavirus-and-galileo-an-interview-with-a-italian-nano-pathologist-dr-stefano-montanari/

    • Agree: Miro23
  460. Catiline says:
    @Priss Factor

    Fail. They’re net givers. Third largest. Have been for some time. (Idiot.)

  461. Catiline says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    See the works of James J. Sadkovich. Once you read them, you’ll understand why.

  462. Ber says:
    @Chinaman

    Actually if one were to search Explorers’ Club NY, one can see how screwed up what people will eat…puts the Chinese to shame, but the reporting is romanticized and made fashionable.

    “Diners typically arrive in groups and plot a strategy to make sure they get a taste of all the stomach-churning eats, says Gene Rurka, the club member in charge of the funky hors d’oeurves….etc.”

    https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/explorers-club-annual-dinner-not-faint-stomach-article-1.1713763

    • Replies: @Smith
  463. Smith says:
    @Ber

    LOL, they are eating bugs and you are thinking that will put chinks to shame.

    Here, have a video:
    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b68_1459145618

    The chinks will eat everything crawl on Earth.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
    , @Ber
  464. @anon

    So what do you do when the NWO shills shove a bio weapon down your throat.

    This site is literally posting CCP propaganda now

    o what sort of ‘propaganda’ doesnt come from the EUcrats and Washington?

  465. Anon[343] • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels

    Our (((elite))) reserves a special hatred for Russian commoners because the Russians gave the Jews the most difficult time of anyone before the revolution, effectively being their righteous jailkeepers in “Tartarus”. Living on the taiga apparently tends to make one uncompromising toward highly aggressive oppressors and social corruption.

    The same is true for the reasons behind the modern Jewish hatred of Poles (as Western Slavs). The Jews were especially nasty to Poles on a day to day basis for hundreds of years and therefore the Poles weren’t having it when the post WWII oppressing communist officer corps in Poland were comprised of up to 70% Jews.

    See the immediate post WWII conflict between Jews and Poles. With lost of Jewish communists being assassinated. An increase in accusations (likely with a high percentage of true accusations) of Jewish child abduction during that particular fog of war period when Jews had the military upper hand through the communist occupation. And eventually post War concentration camps, with Jewish directors, for the purpose of Polish genocide. Today, the Jews have the gall to harass Poles for damages after being willing oppressors of Poles for hundreds of years, using their control of the US State Department to implement them as a highly embarrassing debt collector (embarrassing for America in general, but especially for gentile Americans and their US power).

    Jews hate all Christians, or rather see them as animals fit for ritual slaughter. Russians are included in that but aren’t special in it either.

    • Agree: Miro23
  466. Chinaman says:
    @Smith

    Thanks for the video and My last comment here. there are chinamen and there are chinks,

    This motherfucking chink needs to die. I had no idea…he does look a bit autistic and nutty.

    To eat them live is just insane. People do anything for views nowadays.

    Signing off…

    • Replies: @Parbes
    , @Anonymous
  467. Ber says:
    @Smith

    I do not see any difference in human behavior, white, yellow, blacks etc..There are always some bad and some good.

    • Replies: @Ber
  468. Ber says:
    @Ber

    Hard to say if the video taken is authentic as some people want their moment of fame.

  469. @Bill Daly

    Adam Smith in Wealth of Nations stressed the need for / advantages of international trade. But populations were tiny then compared with now. Now we could do more and better trade within the state. I agree there’s no need for global trade. For many or most countries.

  470. starthorn says:

    China creates the problem, engineers the crisis with tons of help from complicit media outlets, then manufactures and sells the relief? 🤔

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  471. starthorn says:
    @last straw

    Totally. I’ve read something recently about dot Indians being pandered to more in the States because thanks to technology, those here are becoming wealthier than everyone else.

  472. Malla says:
    @ivan

    The Italians very wisely decided to give up fighting unnecessarily.

    Yeah Cowardice and fickle minded.

    And no please I don’t consider Shitler my Fuehrer.

    ????? Who said anything about Adolf Hitler being your Fuhrer or mine. Check out that post again, it says “Fuhrer of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler”. Fuhrer of the Third Reich, not yours or mine. Just like Imran Khan is the Prime Minister of Pakistan not your PM nor mine.

    • Replies: @glib
  473. glib says:
    @Malla

    People will fight only for good reason Malla. To some extent they were right. The Axis should have tried a much more peaceful course, at least for a few decades, building alliances and making friends. If forced to war they should have put their best troops on the Western front. But they had two naive people at the helm, and the rest is history. Don’t confuse cowardice for lack of motive.

    • Agree: Malla
  474. Parbes says:
    @Chinaman

    You are a really pathetic person, you know that? The perfect example of the doormat-type, beta-male Asian gook.

  475. CCP propaganda? Propaganda of the deed, certainly. Good on them. The “world” does not blame China. As a citizen of this same world, far away from China, I realize I know nothing for sure about what happened there. What I see around me in pindoland is a combination of self serving politicians and dishonest journalists hyping a non event for their own ends, none good. No one hates “China”. Oh, the CCP. No one should like any government they do not control.

  476. Anonymous[798] • Disclaimer says:
    @starthorn

    How did they “create” the problem?

    China created the present virus, oh yeah just like the United States “created” the 1918 Influenza.

    That’s like saying someone who lost control of his car on an icy road “caused” the big pile up.

    • Replies: @Smith
  477. Herald says:
    @glib

    “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”

  478. Smith says:
    @Anonymous

    They create the virus, infect themselves and the world while having a cure, so that all major industrial nations in the world are lockdown while China can function normally.

    This gives China advantage in the market, both stock and manufacturing.

    This strategy is so simple it’s out in full force right now.

    If you watch the chinese TV historical dramas, this is what China does every times there’s competition, they have 4000 years of history of using poison. I tell you a classic scenario:
    One man wants to poison the other, he pours poison in drinks and offers to the other man. To make sure the other man trusts him, he drinks his own poisoned drink first. But not to worry, he already has the antidote while the other man drinks poison and dies some days later.

    This is the exact thing that is happening since Jan 2020.

    • Troll: Seraphim, Hacienda
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  479. Anonymous[798] • Disclaimer says:
    @Smith

    Oh yeah, repeat the Big Lie tirelessly, eventually the unthinking believe it.

    Hello, do the Iraq, Afghan, Syrian and Libyan wars ring any bells?

    How 9/11 and Al Qaeda were conflated with Iraq, how the image was built up that Iraq had WMD, how so-called democratic rebels had “overwhelming” popular support in their fight with the Libyan AND Syrian governments, and on and on.

    Not buying the “C-virus was China’s fault” BS.

    “America created and is lying about C-virus”; try that meme on for size.

    As relentless and untiring the bought and owned media and officials are in accusing China, an enormous and growing grassroots movement is equally relentless and merciless in exposing the LIES.

    NO to Cold War 2.0!

    • Replies: @Smith
  480. Anonymous[798] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Chinaman,

    I deduce from your posts that you have lived some considerable period of time in the West, probably, from your statements, in America.

    You have subconsciously imbibed many of the stereotypes, good and bad, Westerners have of Asians.

    Being Asian, you have focused on what seem to you the “good” stereotypes, like Asians being pragmatic/practical, and also accepted as a sort of necessary corollary that Asians are genetically boring and averse to out of the box thinking. Your statements give it all away.

    Regardless of whether these things are accurate (and it is my contention that they contain incredibly superficial observations either way), you, as an Asian, have let outsiders, people not your kind, mold your IDENTITY – in effect, you have accepted what they say to you about yourself, and even wear it as a badge of honor.
    (“Yes, White master, we are boring but very practical Asians, we work hard but never think for ourselves, and we are like this genetically – no need to tell us, we cheerfully accept it, we are timid and no threat”.)

    IMHO I think this is a huge problem for you Asians in the West. Years of western stereotyping and social exclusion have rendered you psychologically helpless, and truly pathetic.

    Instead of knowing who you are and having a quiet inner confidence, you have let other people TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE, let my kind define you the way WE want (“Yup, quiet, smart, hates confrontation, hard worker, no originality, no leadership potential. Asians are like that. It’s just fact.”) instead of the way YOU want.

    If I were you, reject all that bullshit programming and go SUPPLY YOUR OWN IDENTITY to yourself! You Asians are just as much targets of Hollywood, the media and academia as Whites – they put mental chains on you in the guise of “praise”. Think about it! And ask yourself what they gain from doing it.

    Whites have no use for weak toadies or timid fools, when you are fed crap about being Asian, spit it right out. Don’t be “proud outside”, be proud and strong inside.

    Free your mind and your soul, Chinaman.

    • LOL: Hacienda
    • Replies: @Chinaman
  481. Chinaman says:
    @Anonymous

    Thank you for your comment. I said it was my last comment but since you wrote 400 words for me and made some interesting observations, I felt compelled to reply out of politeness. (not as a retort)

    You are right that I have lived in the West for many years and it had a significant impact on how I view myself. Our identity is always molded by our environment and how others view us. One cannot create and calibrate an accurate self-image without comparisons and feedbacks. The problem, as you correctly pointed out are what reference and benchmark to compare oneself against.

    Thankfully, I spent my formative years growing up in Asia so I think my identity is well grounded\established and referenced to my peer group. It is not until I lived in the West that I encountered these Asian stereotypes which I found quite ludicrous. You are correct that these stereotypes are very superficial and each of us, as individuals exhibits much more variance in various attributes than the difference in the average between races for these attributes.

    I play on these stereotypes and attributes here.

    I chose Chinaman as my alias because I know whites will immediately project their prejudices, their fears and hatred about 1.4 billion of Chinese on me and I actually love to hear what they think. it is fun to bring out the racists here. In a way, I play the Chinaman, you and others created in your head. Honestly, I don’t think we know enough about each other to make any judgment about my real identity. May be this is all a ruse and I am just a scheming Jew as some might think here.

    Your message is perfect for the Asian American and I have seen many of them confused about their own identity. An Asian America would not identify themselves as the Chinaman, they don’t want to be viewed as an Asian…they strive to be White or American as you said. I have no intention of that.

    I am not one of them and I don’t live in American (thankfully!)

    I think we are both old enough to know that we are set in our ways and it is too late to free anyone’s mind. That inner confidence you mentioned comes from accepting myself completely and not accepting these stereotypes. I am almost the exact opposite of everything you wrote below.

    quiet, smart, hates confrontation, hard worker, no originality, no leadership potential.

    Most of these stereotypes comes from the fact that Asians are not in positions of power in the West. I run a hedge fund and a bunch of other business so I have a lot of white employees and contractors. I have to solve their problems and come up with solutions for them (creativity?), swear at them (confrontation?) and when that doesn’t work…fire them (leadership?)

    I don’t think they will say I exhibit any of those attributes that you have attributed to Asians. They probably wish I conform more to these stereotypes…

  482. Smith says:
    @Anonymous

    Where’s the lie though?

    If USA did create the virus, why are they now suffering of the virus? Where’s their vaccine? Do you really think the USA is so dumb that they create a virus without an antidote?

    Now if you apply that this is a Chinese virus, everything clicks:

    1. The virus was going on since November, China reacts in January, with fully prepared medical planning and equipment (this is IMPORTANT, you didn’t see China making hospitals for case of swine flu or bird flu, no, they have prepared for it).

    2. The virus “officially” hits the hardest on January, right in Lunar New Year, with most chinese in home and easily quarantined, people want to stay home for the holidays.

    3. Immediately during the outbreak, chinese start to get recovered, and in fact recovered very fast despite the fast infection rate. You cannot explain this. Chinese have been trying to say it’s traditional chinese medicine (not specific) or anti-malaria drug (which could indeed be the key for all this) or anti-HIV drug, but Japan and Russia have been applying these methods and the recovery rate is lesser than China.

    4. In January, chinese nationals across the globe start to mass-buy medical equipment and send back to China.

    5. The geopolitical situation, now every countries on Earth depend on China’s medical equipment, and this virus deals the death blow to the US’s fake no. 1 status.

    The only thing the US gets from this is the tariffs in January, every months after are a disaster for the US. If this is indeed an US weapon, it would be like spraying Agent Orange onto themselves to own the chinks.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @thetruth
  483. @cortesar

    I am Italian 60 years old. My Country lost WW2 and since then we have been experiencing cattocommunist governments. In 1985 we were the 4 industrial Country in the World with a public debt by 58% on the GDP. After entering in the EU our public debt skyrocketed by 132%. Everything has been done from the elites gathered in CFR, UN, TRILATERAL, TAVISTOCK, BILDENBERG, Club of Rome, to destroy my Country. Now the cattocom are always dumb servant of the EU merchants and the only way to save us is to exit the Eurocratic hell by printing our money. Scientifically the US and their sciuscia’ Eurocrats planned this viruscrisis since the immigration weapon has been working well but too slowly. Now they can impose a cashless market, a GPS control to “check the spreading of the virus” and, last but not least, a government’s commission to face the “fake news”. The dish is ready.

  484. Lo says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Turkey already had export bans like most other nations. Some Italians bought masks from a Turkish company despite the ban. Sounds like it is the mistake of Italians and the company that accepted their order, not the Turkish government. Try harder, maybe sometimes you will find something better to attack Turkey.

  485. Lo says:
    @Avery

    Lol, resident Armenian thinks Turks could not make cloth masks if European companies did not open factories. Guess what, Turkey manufactures increasingly complex local tech, from drones to, submarines to household electronics. It also hosts upwards of 150K illegal Armenian migrant workers. So my question would be, where is Armenian diaspora when it comes to helping actual Armenians and Armenia? Yet they always pop all over the place to spread hostility against Turks at the slightest opportunity. It is the strangest thing. If they spent half the energy and resources they spent on Turkish hatred for doing good for actual Armenians, maybe Armenia would not be one of the poorest places in Eurasia. But I guess they find it easier to ask Turks to pay Armenians instead of spending their precious money on that backward country.

    • Replies: @Avery
  486. Lo says:

    Aren’t you the writer who got a good whipping on that article about unproven genocide? 200K masks is nothing, not even a day’s worth of masks for a small city and later Turks sent cargo planes full of medical aid to Spain and Italy. Hey, how about this strange idea? Instead of trying to break a country’s laws, try to ask for help nicely the next time. Another thing to note is that 50 million weekly mask production capacity is not even enough for a country of 85 million since it translates to 7 million masks per day. Meanwhile China manufactures 100+ million masks a day, supposedly squashed the disease, yet somehow manages send Europe broken, faulty equipment. Moreover, make no mistake, this is a Chinese Virus, started in China, hidden from the rest of world, and became a pandemic due to their gross incompetence (I actually think it is malice, not incompetence). So yes, their help is not help, it is DEBT that they have to pay. Either they will do their best to mitigate the situation, or they should be kicked out of all international bodies. That includes sending other countries free medical equipment. Guess what, they are selling everything and profiting from this pandemic in a big way.

    Right now it awfully looks like they used the virus as a bio weapon against the rest of the world. Simple as that. Sending free medical aid, may, at least make them appear less malicious. I recommend them do this, or payback after the pandemic is over will be much harsher.

    • Replies: @Smith
  487. glauc0n says:

    I’ve never read an article so absolutely stupid. Rightly deserved hatred for Jews in America and Israel does not mean you cozy up to another enemy like China. They are both literal cancer. Is Stryker just going to ignore the country responsible for this outbreak? Or the fact that the reason the outbreak is so concentrated in Northern Italy is because cheap Chinese labor to the area? How about the fact that the Chinese threw people in jail that were trying to warn the entire world? How utterly delusional are these pro Chinese people? There’s a reason almost every single asian country that surrounds China, HATES CHINA.

    Not to even mention the Chinese are partially responsible for the extermination of White South Africans. Cozying up to the ruling government in an effort to take over White South African farms that are sitting on precious metals. All they care about is money.

    • Troll: thetruth
  488. Smith says:
    @Lo

    This turk gets it.

    I mean I think the whole world get it, even the africans, because this is such a simple and transparent scheme.

    China suffers the least and gets the most of this of this disease.

  489. Seraphim says:
    @Smith

    ‘Methinks the lady protest too much’.
    If China took measures which were not necessary in the cases of bird flu, swine flu, is because they realized quickly that it was a bioweapon. It was war.
    The more the Americans push the meme ‘China did it’ the more suspicion it attracts that they did it!

    • Replies: @Smith
  490. Avery says:
    @Lo

    {Lol, resident Armenian thinks Turks …}

    “Lol” ?

    Wow: very impressive.
    The resident nomad Uyguroglu Turk has learned American jargon.
    “Lol” ? How old are you kid?

    The rest of your post is the usual re-hash of delusional Turk boasting, and anti-Armenian denialist Turk jackal yelping.
    The only things savage nomad IslamoFascist Turks are capable of on their own are: invasion, theft, mass murder, child abductions, arson, terrorism, destruction, child rape, …….aaaaand Genocide.

    Everything else, IslamoFascist Turks owe to Christians: Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, Europeans. If you want to know what Uyguroglu Turks can do without leaching off of Christians, without stealing from sedentary, creative civilizations – look to their ancestral kin: Uygurs, ancestors* of savage nomad Turks, currently squatting in Asia Minot. How are Uygurs doing Turkoglu?

    Let me guess: Uyguristan is one of the most advanced societies in the world today: Yes?

    _____________________________

    * https://www.aa.com.tr/en/archive/turkeys-davutoglu-in-china/421006

    [Davutoglu and an accompanying Turkish delegation arrived early Thursday in Kashgar in the extreme west of China and the extreme southwest of Xinjiang.
    Davutoglu first visited the tomb of Mahmud Kashgari and then they toured the tomb of Yusuf Has Hajib as well the 500-year-old Id Khah Mosque, the largest mosque in China.
    “We are visiting the land of our ancestors,” Davutoglu said.
    Following his visits, Davutoglu attended a dinner hosted in his honor by leading figures of Kashgar, a junction between two branches of the old Silk Road. The 350,000 population of the city is mostly Uighur Turks] (28.10.2010)

    • Replies: @Lo
  491. Smith says:
    @Seraphim

    Really? You believe that?

    Also, I’m not american, most people in the world see through this goddamn get-rich scheme from China, it’s only you chink shills and schizos who deny it by deliberately ignoring who benefit from this.

    Also, if this is indeed a US bioweapon, China would have said so in January, in fact, they dismiss that rumor and they only raise the question when US starts to put the blame to them.

    This is a first, a first time where the CCP doesn’t blame the US first.

    • Troll: thetruth
    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @annamaria
  492. Seraphim says:
    @Smith

    They did in March, ironically getting the idea from “an American conspiracy theorist named George Webb” in a Youtube video (that was taken down) naming as the ‘patient zero’ the American cyclist Maatje Benassi, participant in the military games in Wuhan in October.
    Where is the ‘lone’ cyclist Maatje Benassi? What happened to her? The Chinese asked information about and apparently they haven’t got any answers other than ironies at the Chinese ‘conspiracy theory’.

  493. annamaria says:
    @Smith

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1183658.shtml: “US urged to release health info of military athletes who came to Wuhan in October 2019

    https://engnews24h.com/patient-0-coronas-first-positive-human-alias-%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8Bfound-allegedly-us-army/

    The debate between China and America about the origin of the corona virus entered a new phase.

    China urges the United States to release the health results of an army that came to Wuhan in October 2019.

    Because, one US soldier named Maatje Benassi is suspected of being the first human alias in the world infected with the Covid-19 corona virus. She was also suspected of spreading the virus while in Wuhan.

    • Replies: @Smith
  494. Lo says:
    @Avery

    You are funny. So now I am not a Jew, but an Uyghur. I asked a simple question, with facts. You have no answers other than hate mongering. It seems like you don’t only hate Turks, but you are also an anti-Armenian since you cannot tell how Armenian diaspora helps actual Armenians and Armenia, but also blame Turks who employ 150K Armenians. As a matter of fact, if it wasn’t for you and Russians (who made Armenia attack Azerbaijan, dooming Armenia to become a Russian satellite -of course it is good for Russia-) Armenians would be far better off. All you do is hate mongering, you offer zero help or benefit to Armenia, quite the contrary you are making things harder for actual Armenians by preventing diplomatic and trade relations with your batshit crazy propaganda work.

  495. @Catiline

    The EU was designed as a transfer mechanism fot the protection money Germany had to pay to the french highwaymen.

    Obviously, the pirates wanted to sabotage this, therefore de Gaulle wisely kept them out and the Germans stupidly allowed them in.

    With the pirates hopefully gone, the thing might continue to work – between memories of the last three wars and tons of German money – to keep french aggression at bay.

  496. Leftist says:

    Why this ridiculous paranoia about Jewish people? Where does it come from?

  497. annamaria says:

    Food for thought: https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/10/watch-dr-scott-jensen-reveals-ridiculous-covid19-guidance/

    Minnesota State Senator Scott Jensen appeared on a local news show to report that doctors were receiving instructions from the Minnesota Department of Health to report Covid19 as a cause of death, even if the patient was never tested.

    Senator Jensen, who is also a practising physician, said he had never before in his thirty-five-year career received specific instructions on how to fill out a death certificate.

    The apparent policy of Minnesota – to report any and all pneumonia or “flu-like illness” decedents as Covid19 cases, with or without a test – ties in with the US policy as described by the CDC’s official memos.

    In fact the governments of Italy, Germany, the UK and Austria all doing the same thing. …

    Why do national and regional governments appear to be going out of their way to inflate the Covid19 death statistics?

    Dr. Jensen has his own idea:

    Well, fear is a great way to control people, and I worry about that. I worry that sometimes we’re just so interested in jazzing up the fear factor, that…you know, sometimes people’s ability to think for themselves is paralyzed if they’re frightened enough

    .

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  498. Smith says:
    @annamaria

    So this is the best Global (China) Times can do? “suspected” or “believed” or “urged”.

    Provided if this person does exist (it sounds like a Paki or Bangladeshi), the US wouldn’t be dumb enough to hand it over without direct proof of its infection. Meanwhile, China hides its pation zero.

    China needs to provide proofs before it starts to urge, because “belief” and “suspicion” means lack of evidences and desperation.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  499. Paul C. says:
    @annamaria

    This is an interesting interview as well. I can’t believe “federal law” now extends to hospitals. Maybe it always has but I wouldn’t have guessed it.

    Likely the same non-disclosure laws that prevent NOAA or Nat’l Weather Service (NWS) employees from speaking out about gov’t geo-engineering (chemtrails) and weather warfare.

  500. thetruth says:
    @Smith

    As a matter of fact, ALL Genome research now shows this virus started from the U.S., NOT China!

    A lot of those 24,000 – 63,000 flu deaths between Oct. 1, 2019 to March 28, 2020 could be died of Covid-19!! And even U.S. CDC now admitted!

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

    here are two images of the Genomes of Covid-19. one does NOT even need to be an expert, to be able to tell the difference, and which country is the ROOTS for the virus!

    China’s Genome Tree for Covid-19
    US Genome Tree for Covid-19

  501. Seraphim says:
    @Smith

    You dodge the question. The first to launch the ‘conspiracy theory’ was George Webb, ‘Global Times’ was cautious as a responsible news paper should be and that’s why they ‘urged’ the Americans to come clear, which they refused to do, that’s a sign of desperation! The dog farted! If you watch attentively the video you understand why. He gives damning details about the realations of the Benassi pair with Fort Detrick. And about the Italy’s ‘patient zero’… another Benassi!

  502. Here’s an alternative view: this whole psyop is an inversion of the AIDS epidemic in 1983 – specifically, the James Kinsella book. You can read the book and the propaganda news stories are drawn from it directly – it’s uncanny. The other factor is the Great Medieval Leper Hunt. Remember – Hanson’s disease is Leperosy, so now you have NewHan in WuHan. You’ve also got the social distancing thing – a way to build “invisible walls” and the play on the sanctuary cities, etc. etc.

    So, in the Kinsella Book, there was the “4H Club” – Homos, Hemo, Heroin, Haitians.

    Now, let’s increment it for the Inversion psyop – the “5I club” – see the joke?

    Iranians, Italians, Immunocompromised, Infirm, Indigent.

    Italy is a colony of the USA – we have a gazillion bases there, we elected the pope, the 5-star movement is a puppet of the CIA, we work with sicilian mob to process heroin, and we use Italian weapons manufacturers to arm our proxies. So, it’s not hard for the CIA to rig a fake crisis in that country.

  503. Vaterland says:

    Sometimes Anatoly says something along the lines of: Who needs Jews when he has Neo-Nazis?

    I am starting to understand that sentiment…

  504. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Basque is indeed (paleo)-European, with no connection to any of the modern European languages.

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