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Just weeks after finishing a two and a half year prison sentence for “Holocaust denial,” 92-year-old Ursula Haverbeck has been convicted again by German courts, this time for an interview she gave in 2018 that affirmed her view that Jews were not systematically killed during World War II and that the gas chambers at Auschwitz are a politically motivated lie.

If the federal court’s sentence of one year in Haverbeck’s newest case holds up, Germany will have the dubious distinction of imprisoning the oldest female inmate in the world, a title previously held by American Lucille Keppen, who was incarcerated for shooting her neighbor and was released at age 93.

The German government has been dragging Haverbeck to court for decades for disputing Jewish claims of gas chambers and systematic murder. Haverbeck has famously protested the kangaroo courts that humiliate and defame elderly war veterans using bogus testimony from “survivors.”

Numerous high-ranking Third Reich officials, soldiers and concentration camp workers have disputed the Holocaust narrative since 1945, including Wehrmacht officer Otto Ernst Remer, Auschwitz employee Thies Christophersen, Erich Priebke, Leon Degrelle, and SS soldier Karl Muenter, the latter who died before his “Holocaust denial” trial began at the age of 96.

Haverbeck’s late husband, Werner Georg Haverbeck, was an influential NSDAP member who himself objected to the blood libel against the German people known as die Auschwitz luge (the Auschwitz lie).

The BRD’s legal system has been ruthless with Haverbeck. The nonagenarian, who is a prisoner of conscience, was denied release after serving 2/3 of her prison sentence as is customary in Germany. While the state freed 1,000 offenders early due to COVID last March, Haverbeck was only let out in mid-November.

There is no sign of shame or human rights concerns in the country, with the judge in the latest case stressing that Haverbeck will continue to be punished until she learns to keep her mouth shut. One can only imagine the outcry from liberal NGOs if Iran, China or Russia imprisoned an elderly woman just for questioning the government’s line.

Haverbeck’s powerful spirit has become an inspiration for patriots in Germany and around the world. In 2019, she ran as a European parliamentary candidate from behind bars and received 25,000 votes, which was highly upsetting to the European media establishment. Every year on her birthday, hundreds of Germans rallied outside her detention center demanding her release.

Intellectuals and activists across Europe, the Americas and Japan have expressed dismay over her mistreatment and the lack of freedom in the land that claims to be a “democracy.” At JVA Bielefeld, where Haverbeck was housed, prison officials struggled to process the avalanche of letters and flowers their famous prisoner received throughout her sentence.

For Germany’s oldest prisoner, it’s clear that she will not cower before the wrath of the Jewish groups directing careerist bureaucrats. It’s in the German state’s reputational interest to stop tormenting Haverbeck, yet the West’s religious fear of debate over what occurred during the Second World War continues to take precedent over all other concerns.

(Republished from National Justice by permission of author or representative)
• Category: History, Ideology • Tags: Germany, Holocaust, World War II 
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  1. Prison for an elderly lady because she spoke words. She didn’t shoot bullets or in any way harm another or their property.

    This is the system of laws we’re supposed to embrace?

    Laws are made by legislatures. There’s no limit to what they can concoct. Look at what that SS officer known as the governor of Michigan has done so far under the color of law.

    Those of you that respect the law as an institution should realize that it’s dark side is becoming more prominent every day. Who would have guessed a few years ago that politicians would lock people up in their homes without charges, without due process, strictly on their say so.

    If the current Covid manufactured panic doesn’t tell you that gov’t is your enemy, then you must be living in a fantasy world.

  2. When a regime locks up a little old lady for years just for what she said, it shows how frightened they are. To some Germany may seem a very stable state. But it is no more stable than any other in Western Europe. Heavily indebted, it will be just as exposed as others to the coming economic depression. Change, when it happens, will be sudden. When it does, those responsible will spend a lot of time looking over their shoulders.

  3. Katrinka says:

    The Jews know that if their fake “Holocaust” is finally exposed for what it is (a shake down racket) all hell will break loose as they will no longer be the persecuted but the persecutors. I mailed a birthday card to Ursula last year. I never thought I would be doing it again. Make no mistake, if the Jewish power continues to increase here in the U.S. we will all be in her shoes.

  4. How disgusting it is that one cannot speak freely, and even beyond that, they be imprisoned for such. Why is it that one of the biggest frauds in the history of mankind cannot be pushed to forefront and find the real truth? Why has there not been an unbiased investigation with as many facts, not accusations been made public, in a public forum and televised so the world could witness? Because it’s been a lie for decades and is and was a lie during the war. The jew the children of Satan use deception to silence, and or intimidate the rest of the world.
    This woman is a victim not a criminal, the real criminals are those that have manufactured the Holohoax, and those that help it live today with actions like these against this woman and those like her. One would think if the autrocities were as bad as claimed the truth would be without question and rather than silence open discussion would be welcomed, It is only when the facts and truth are not on your side that you wish to silence any opposition.
    I proudly without remorse say today the holohoax never happened , the jew is the child of satan, many governments and leaders have been part of this terrible coverup, and are traitors to the world and mankind,
    Now come and get me you evil scum, I will not go quietly as this lady has

  5. Chris Moore says: • Website

    This case and all others like it are about international Zionist power. From this elderly German woman to Palestinian children throwing stones and getting gunned down by Jewish soldiers, the Jewish rackets are the sickest, most evil and sadistic menace in history — all the more so because every evil shabbos goy joins in on the sadism when they take blood money from Jewry.

    A great evil was perpetrated on the world in WW2 by Communists, Capitalists and Zionist middlemen balancing and exploiting the two, and the bills are finally coming due. The wages of sin.

  6. I don’t get how German officials are so dumb? Do they really not see what they’re doing?

  7. @RoatanBill

    God bless and protect Haverbeck, a real prisoner of conscience.

  8. Mulegino1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I think they know very well what they are doing, but keep in mind that the Talmudic mitzvah to “kill even the best of the goyim” carries with it the inevitable connotation of elevating the very worst of them to power and influence.

    The humiliating sycophancy and servility which they bear towards their tribal masters likely gives rise to a smoldering resentment and sadistic streak with which they willingly lash out at their fellow subjects.

  9. Dumbo says:

    In a way, this is good, because it shows them as evil but weak and deranged people afraid of an old lady. Making her into a martyr is a very stupid idea; nothing is gained by them from this.

    As more people question Covid, eventually more people will question the Holocaust, 9/11 and a lot of things that weren’t exactly the way we were told…

    Of course, before this is over a lot more people will be incarcerated for questioning the status quo. Would all had the fortitude of Mrs. Haverbeck.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  10. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    is there any doubt jews are satans spawn the most evil repulsive inhuman demons from hell to walk the earth

    • Replies: @noname27
  11. willem1 says:

    So would free speech be one of those “democratic standards” the new EU budget speaks of, specifying that sanctions would be allowed against “governments who fail to maintain democratic standards” and that Hungary and Poland are opposed to? I thought Germany was one of the EU nations that was really pushing this…

    • Thanks: Ace
  12. @Bardon Kaldian

    Why are so many Germans so dumb ? After her welcome to 2 million ” Syrian Refugees “, Merkel should have been toast. She is still there: that tells you all you need to know about most modern Germans.

  13. Wyatt says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    They’re just following orders.

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  14. Criminal courts are not the forum to resolve historical debates.

    • Agree: TKK, Ace
    • Replies: @Dago Shoes
    , @Stan d Mute
  15. @Diversity Heretic

    No … but those criminal courts are perfect for punishing dissent and for stifling unwanted debates … and that’s the aim of all of the ‘hate speech’ and ‘holoco\$t denial’ laws in the EU and (soon to be) in the United States.

    • Agree: annamaria, mark green
  16. If that image is of our heroine at 92, she’s doing remarkably well, looking remarkably healthy, a real beauty.

    I’m sorry she hasn’t been able to escape from Germany. She must have supporters, I’m sure she has.

    Maybe she has chosen to stay, to fight the good fight. A remarkable, glorious woman!

  17. Eichmann, in 1961, in Israel, was afforded the opportunity to choose his defense lawyer. A German lawyer was selected, and acted for Eichmann in the Jerusalem court.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  18. mirpaz says:

    On account of free speech and the right to her consciousness, I believe she ought to be free. I defend anyone right to speak his/her mind.
    Germany is becoming very totalitarian.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
  19. What’s or who’s behind that terrible law? Why does it matter if people dismiss the story of the holocaust? Who cares? And why does the German government want to prove it’s a false story by forbidding debate or examination of the evidence?

    That’s how they preserved Nazism is it? The Nazi device for suppressing dissent, jail a 92 year old.

    So it looks as though the Nazis are behind that illogical, insane law. Who else could it be?

    Nazism lives on!!!

  20. Phoenix says:

    Amazing. She should receive international honors for her honesty and courage.

    Isn’t it about time for a German populist movement to cut off all holocaust reparations?

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  21. @Verymuchalive

    Perhaps they aren’t so dumb.

    People need to realize that the voting flipping software that was, apparently, used at large scale in the recent US election is not new!

    It has been used for years and, maybe, decades both here and in other countries. I shudder to think how many elected officials in the USA, Canada and Europe were not legitimately elected. It’s far more than people realize. (The Governors of the last 2 states I’ve lived in — I’d wager big on it.)

    Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Merkel is still there because of election engineering.

  22. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    it looks as though the Nazis are behind that illogical, insane law.

    If you mean nazi as in: Ashkenazi, you’ve likely nailed it.

  23. Lee says:

    German courts decision on a similar case where a citizens fine was overturned:

    The court ruled that a conviction for downplaying or trivializing the Holocaust is only legally valid if it can be proven that the statements posed a danger to public peace.

    If public peace is not threatened, then a democracy must also be able to withstand “disturbing opinions,” the court said.

    So how did Ms Haverbecks past comments “disturb”” the peace????

    Perhaps politics is at play here as she was a leading candidate for the far-right Die Rechte party for the 2019 European Parliament election.There are things at play here that most might not understand.I’m one of these people.

    Really,really stupid.

  24. USA1943 says:

    She should be able give her opinion without worrying about legal consequences, if someone disagrees than refute it, by not allowing her to speak it looks like they/the Government has something to hide, instead of jailing Holocaust Deniers they should refute them and/or challenge them to a debate, I am glad I am American and can give my opinions/thoughts without having to worry about going to jail, regardless if they are popular or not.

  25. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    All hail the True Queen of the white race!! Ursula Haverbeck is the bravest woman alive! The Joan of Arc of our age.

    The truth shall prevail. Those who did this to her will pay one day. We will spit on their graves.

  26. By the way,
    About a year ago famous Marina Butina returned from the American Gulag.
    In the Gulag itself, she kept diaries and now she has already written a book.
    In addition to this book, she spoke about the realities in the American judicial and penitentiary systems. The first thing that catches our eye in her story is the mass practice of using psychological torture, the general goal is to crush the person totally psychologically.
    The second point, prisoners are actually slaves. It shows the balance of what they have there – internal prices for work and prices for purchase.
    In addition to the primitive tasks that attract prisoners with short sentences, something rather secret is being performed in American prisons. For these tasks, prisoners with very long terms are involved.

    Her story in Russian

    • Replies: @Reaper
  27. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Posting Haverbeck’s picture would be a way to show support for her and for the cause of free speech.

    Only moral monsters lock away little old ladies in prison for speaking their opinion, and who wouldn’t imagine his own grandmother being locked up by the monstrous Merkel upon hearing of Haverbeck’s story? Supporting her would also offer those of us on the dissident right a common rallying point and provoke conversations on historical and moral topics long in need of honest discussion in the population at large.

    • Agree: Miro23
  28. Anon[970] • Disclaimer says:

    Eye open Jews, what do you think is going to happen across Germany and then Europe as the hoax inevitably falls? Lead the charge against Zio/Israeli lies and extortion.

  29. @skipNclair

    Strictly, it should not matter as to the exact truth or falsity of historical claims. ALL history should be open to public debate. Wrong or incorrect views of history will then be judged in the court of public/academic opinion. No more, no less.
    When history becomes an object of censorship, its no longer a “History” issue, its a political/ideological issue using, & thus perverting History to its own grotty ends.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  30. Germany has one of the most advanced criminal prison systems in the world. I understand she intends to black any return to the notions of Nazi Germany. I get it. But imprisoning people for “wrong thoughts” is a bit extreme. It is as if they are exchanging one hypercontrol system for another in a bid to in some manner of historical reclamation to the Germany that by and large saw their Jewish citizens as citizens.

    I get it. Still seems extreme. But then I did not live in Nazi Germany nor the aftermath of the same.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  31. Wally says:

    Unfortunately she is but one of many.

    Official list of Revisionist scholars persecuted / imprisoned for questioning the “Holocaust”:

    RoatanBill said:
    ” Look at what that SS officer known as the governor of Michigan has done so far under the color of law.”

    You’re still missing the point. The SS did not do what you been conditioned to think they did.
    Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust :
    Additional massive database & no name calling debate here:

    • Replies: @handydan
    , @Lot
  32. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Speaking of “dumb”. You yourself are a believer in the impossible and have been called out on it at this very site.


    Bardon Kaldian. a True Believer in the impossible “holocaust” & laughable “gas chambers”, examples galore:

    • Replies: @anon
  33. @Verymuchalive

    I just Googled “is Germany in debt” and the 2019 figure given was a long way below the UK and France. So, what’s the big deal about German debt?

  34. She is getting the value that martyrs have got historically out of martyrdom on the cheap. Perhaps if she were young and smart she would torment the German legal plods with clever essays that expose without clearly supporting the relevant arguments, not least with questions like “How do I answer Holocaust deniers who insist that, because Yad Vashem has not been able to prove that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, it should boost its credibility by counselling against insisting on the 6 million figure and thereby giving support to those who claim Holocaust stories are self-interested propaganda?”. I have read that 14-88 is just one of many symbolic ways of taunting those who would punish Holocaust deniers though I have no idea whether the German state or judiciary has managed to catch up with that and punish it.

  35. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Ashkenazism! Terrible, isn’t it.

    I don’t think people should be imprisoned for victimless “crimes”, and it’s hard to find a victim in Frau Haverbeck’s case. Perhaps someone who believes their Grandad was murdered, rather than dying from typhus, influenza, or USUK bombing. If the German government believes that six million Jews were murdered, they should be able to dig up some evidence.

  36. Garliv says:

    This is truly sick. Completely nauseating. How can governments force people to accept without question a version of history that even on the face of it is completely made up? Look how Austrians treated David Irving a scholar who actually let historical research speak for itself!

    What’s being hidden and why does so called freedom-loving countries of Europe engage in this lunacy!?

  37. I hate the Nazis! They let George Soros live.

  38. anon[833] • Disclaimer says:

    This is surreal in a supposedly free, open and democratic country. Really, it’s more like a scene out of Oceania in Orwell’s “1984.”

    One may be in error in their collection or interpretation of facts in the real world, but one cannot “choose” their beliefs. Beliefs are imposed upon the brain by those facts or interpretations thereof that impinge upon the brain. One can choose to state one’s belief, or not, or to lie about their beliefs in a defensive act but they cannot choose any belief per se. (I cannot choose to believe the world is flat because that would violate far too many experiences and concepts already firmly anchored in my psyche.) You may believe you choose beliefs, but whatever your reasons for your apparent choice preceded that decision, came unbidden and almost invisibly insinuated itself into your entire world view or model of reality. Any potential belief has to sync with that model as much as possible or be rejected as untrue, even if you don’t systematically go through some long check list. Granted, some minds are more informed, organised and/or accurate than others, which is why we not infrequently decide that some people are just fools or imbeciles.

    Since the state knows what this woman’s beliefs are, irrespective of their validity, they are forcing her to either lie to avoid prison, to refuse comment, which is just another form of subterfuge–one she is apparently not willing to employ as an out, or to give an honest reply and incriminate herself under their absurd dictatorial laws whenever they ask such questions of her. This is forced group-think, but only simulated group-think if the responses are not genuine. I realise most of us lie or evade the truth to get through a typical day in the modern world for a million different reasons, but this is systematically imposed deceit demanded of us by the state. Next the American diversity police will start beating fans with a rubber hose for not kneeling during the national anthem before sporting events.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Badger Down
  39. @Dumbo

    As more people question Covid …
    … a lot more people will be incarcerated for questioning the status quo.

    With just a bit of editing, you make a prescient observation.

  40. BenKenobi says:

    Look at what that SS officer known as the governor of Michigan

    Please don’t disrespect SS officers like that.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy, Ugetit
    • LOL: Ace
  41. @RoatanBill

    They want to bring that to the U.S. and they will as soon as the Supreme Court has been properly packed. The Democrat-dominated court will then rule that “hate speech” is not free speech.

    • Agree: Niebelheim
  42. @Verymuchalive

    Not that it excuses the Germans, but they’re hardly alone in suffering genocidal replacement without a fight. Given what has been done to Germany, the idea of a fight is however perhaps uniquely distasteful.

    We get closer to the heart of the matter by asking what’s wrong with white men. Why are we so fat and complacent about our replacement? Was the Soviet demoralization effort so successful?

    This was the 400th anniversary of the Mayflower. Those who are geezers like me will recall our bicentennial in 1976. It too was an election year and the economy couldn’t exactly be called “good”. Yet it’s hard to reconcile in my mind the American pride and patriotism displayed then versus the antipathy omnipresent today.

    Who really won the Cold War?

  43. @Diversity Heretic

    Criminal courts are not the forum to resolve historical debates.

    They are when you criminalize the dissemination of truth.

  44. noname27 says: • Website
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Jews are Bolshevik Internationalists (Globalists), NOT NATIONAL SOCIALISTS. If National Socialism lives on, then show me the nation where it’s active and operational and I will make plans to move there in a heart beat.

  45. noname27 says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    None are so ‘dumb’ as those who are paid to be dumb.

  46. GeeBee says:

    And look where that got him!

  47. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    About the same time the lovely & brave Ursula was getting sent to prison for asking historical questions bout WWII, some German teens were set free by a judge even though they had brutally raped & assaulted a 14 yo girl:

    Hamburg teenagers walk free after gang-rape conviction

    A group of teens in the northern German city of Hamburg were handed suspended sentences despite video evidence of their crimes. The presiding judge said the perpetrators appeared ‘repentant.’

    No mention if the little bastards are recent immigrants or part of that clique that thinks they are supposed to rule over Gentiles.

    Over 20 European nations have laws that make it Verboten to ask historical WWII questions. You’ll get fined and/or sent to prison if you do.
    Canada also has a similar law & several times in the past, the Fun Bunch tried to get Congress to pass a similar law, but so far, no luck…so far.

    It’s coming, I’d bet a dozen bagels that soon Americans won’t be able to ask historical WWII questions w/o getting sent to prison filled with murderers, rapists & violent felons that when released, join ANTIFA.

    Anudda’ topic to stay away from is the FACT that the Bolshevik Jew led Red Army raped over 2 million German women & girls, age 8-80 when they rolled over eastern Germany at the end of WWII.

    A Horrified Witness: In the farmyard further down the road stood a cart, to which four naked women were nailed through their hands in a cruciform position. . . . Beyond . . . stood a barn and to each of its two doors a naked woman was nailed through the hands, in a crucified posture. In the dwellings we found a total of seventy-two women, including children, and one old man, 74, all dead . . . all murdered in a bestial manner, except only a few who had bullet holes in their necks. Some babies had their heads bashed in. In one room we found a woman, 84 years old, sitting on a sofa . . . half of whose head had been sheared off with an ax or a spade. [De Zayas, Alfred M. Nemesis at Potsdam:The Anglo-Americans and the Expulsions of the Germans—Background, Execution, Consequences. London: Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1977. Page 63]

    The above is a SMALL sample of what those crazed lunatics did to Germany.

    Good thing all we hear about is the Most Holy & Sacred Holocau\$t ™ because we might start asking legit questions.

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @Lee
  48. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Frau Haverbeck is an ardent believer in National Socialism and has utmost respects for the real heroes of Germany.
    Take your postwar bullshit with you, kike lover.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  49. American/Western politics come mainly in two flavors:

    1. Jews hating whatever.

    2. Goyim appeasing Jewish hatred.

  50. gotmituns says:

    As a logical man, I wonder why people just can’t think of the logistical effort needed to pull off such a project as the “Holocaust” while simultaneously fighting a war from the arctic to the desert and at sea? And then keeping the entire effort secret – give me a break, couldn’t be done.
    But I do know what was done. After the war, every German teacher was purged from his/her post and an incredible propaganda/brainwashing effort was used on the young German students to turn them against their elders and it worked.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  51. Tom Welsh says:

    Novice lawyers learning their profession are routinely warned never to forget that law is not justice, and that it is not necessarily fair.

    The law, after all, is nothing more than a series of proclamations decided on by politicians.

    In this case, Frau Haverbeck is the victim of legal officials who will not yield a centimetre from the letter of the law, politicians who cannot refrain from rubber-stamping laws that make it illegal to say anything that could be interpreted as even faintly pro-Nazi, and those who wrote the laws – and who knows who they were?

    It is a hideous mechanical monster with no common sense or compassion. David Irving had a similar experience in Austria, although he was younger and perhaps better able to withstand imprisonment. His account is very interesting, and is available online (maybe at as “Banged Up”.

    As I often say, there is no essential difference between Germany and Austria in 1939 and today – neither had any respect for freedom of speech.

    In 1939 you were praised for criticizing or harming Jews, and punished for praising or helping them or for criticizing the Nazis.

    Today you are praised for helping the Jews or criticizing the Nazis, and punished criticizing the Jews or saying anything good about the Nazis.

    The invariable factor is that you are never allowed to say what you believe to be true – even if it is true.

    We British and Americans had better despise the Germans while we can. Our countries are rapidly sliding the same way.

    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ace
  52. Tom Welsh says:

    “Why is it that one of the biggest frauds in the history of mankind cannot be pushed to forefront and find the real truth?”

    Because then the real truth would be known, of course.

  53. @Bardon Kaldian

    The German abuse of this 92-year-old woman is doing extraordinary and enduring harm to the reputation of Jewry in the world, in fact ‘stoking anti-semitism’

    Maybe the Germans imprisoning this lady know that … and maybe they are sacrificing this senior woman’s freedom, and perhaps her life, in a passive-aggressive counter-attack against Jews they secretly despise

    Too afraid to confront Jewish influence groups directly, the Germans are maybe using this case of Jewish-led abuse of the elderly, in a desperate attempt to sledgehammer the Jewish structures of power that they also covertly resent

    In an earlier era, however ‘wrong’ an elderly woman’s ideas, no judge would jail such a woman for mere words … this is moral bankruptcy for Germany even allowing the shoah happened

    Even post-World-War II, when the old West Germany had the case of Jewish holocaust denier Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90) aka Joseph G. Burg, part of Russian armies who liberated the camps & who personally interviewed Auschwitz survivors, they never jailed him, although Ginzburg had his books burned (!) by the postwar West German government

    • Agree: annamaria
  54. DaveE says:

    Now come and get me you evil scum, I will not go quietly as this lady has


    “Wisdom, without courage, is worthless.” —Gandhi

  55. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    In a perfect world we would see the establishment of an international organization whose aim is to document Jewish crimes against humanity and keep track of the perpetrators. Ultimately, this organization would be in the forefront of hunting down these criminals and bringing them to justice. I suggest it should be called the Ursula Haverbeck Institute in her honor.

    God bless you, Ursula.

    • Thanks: FLgeezer
  56. I have so much admiration for this lady. I have followed her for many years now. she is a stalwart advocate of speaking truth to power – she shames me.

    • Agree: ariadna
  57. Zumbuddi says:

    “A massive brainwashing effort – – -”


    Psychological warfare carried on for at least 5 years.

    The covid reign of terror has elements of that psychological warfare campaign.

  58. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    The government isn’t our enemy, Jews that are in charge of it are. Libertarianism isn’t going to save us, statism will.

    • Agree: Parsnipitous
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Timmy75
  59. @Wizard of Oz

    Deutsce Bank is the official underwriter of the Derivatives scam. 600 trillion dollars’ worth, according to a commenter I saw this morning. That’s 600 trillion dollars of pure, unadulterated and uncollectable debt on the German people. Add the trillions in legal liabilities that Bayer recently bought… the German nation will be expected to pay Monsanto’s fines, Bayer being “strategicaly imperative to the economy” and all that.
    But then, that’s not how the WikidPaedos measure things, issit?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  60. BuelahMan says:

    Do I need to share all the jewish names involved with this?

    That, in and of itself, should be enough to elicit anger and hatred towards the criminal jew mafia.

    But I’m an antisemite so you can ignore me and cater to the incessantly lying jew.

  61. cranc says:

    The tacit (and sometimes explicit) endorsement of the provably false narrative of ‘Covid as dangerous pandemic’ seems to be shared by Striker, the NJP and many on the dissident Right.
    Accompanying this, there is a relative ‘silence’ on the implications of the Great Reset and its connections to religiously ambitious cults such as Chabad Lubavitch.
    Control is relative. There is a difference between, on the one hand, being instructed with the force of the state, that “You cannot do that”, whilst on the other being instructed, “You WILL do this”. We are on the threshold of moving from the former to the latter, and on a global scale.
    Some more people connecting the dots between the treatment of dissidents like Haverbeck and our own incarceration-based-on-deception-and-falsehood would be welcome.

    • Agree: Fatmanscoop
  62. @Anonymous

    Is that the same statism that starts all the wars and murdered over 200 million people last century?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @noname27
  63. Promote her to Generalfeldmarschall.

    She can use the baton to whack the Weimar-like Jew controlled Judges on the noggin.

  64. ariadna says:

    To think that Germany was once capable of exterminating 6 million Jews in record time by gassing them in shower rooms, then burning them so thoroughly that no trace remained, having previously skinned them for lamp shades and defatted them for soap!
    And now they cannot even do away with a nonagenarian woman who keeps having prohibited opinions, not without attracting some unwelcome attention.
    I hope that the “intellectuals” who expressed “dismay” did so politely and not without qualifying their statements with a clear disavowal of her dangerous opinions likely to incite hate.
    Her countrymen demonstrated, but only on her birthday… well thought: given her age that is not a strenuous activity likely to have many encores.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  65. ariadna says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Don’t count on winning any bagels from me.

  66. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    Even if you knew nothing about the holocaust, just the fact that they made a taboo out of it proves that it is a lie.

  67. Miro23 says:
    @Badger Down

    If the German government believes that six million Jews were murdered, they should be able to dig up some evidence.

    That’s the problem – there’s nothing to dig up. And there wasn’t any fuel either to incinerate 6 million bodies. The Red Cross knew the truth of it, as did the British who were intercepting camp commander communications (nothing whatever about gas chambers – and a lot about epidemic disease).

  68. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s your solution, convince the entire world to abide by the NAP? Give me a break. The state is a tool the same way a gun is a tool, it can be used to do good and bad things. You know how libertarians used to say “guns don’t kill people, people do.” That’s true of the state too, it’s as good as the people that wield it. And it’s currently being wielded by evil Jews.

    • Agree: G J T
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Mefobills
  69. @Wizard of Oz

    Deutsche Bank’s notional exposure to the Derivatives market in 2019 was \$53.5 trillion. It was claiming then that the net exposure was only \$20bn. However, it is having great difficulty offloading any of this. The latter figure is based on economic growth at 2019 rates, the dollar remaining as the World Reserve Currency and the highly overvalued share prices. The last is largely a result of Central Bank pump-priming since 2008.

    However, due to COVID-19 policy, the West now is contracting economically and economic depression is just around the corner. Actual indebtedness will be very many times higher. Even in 2019, Deutsche Bank’s net income was -5.265 bn euros! Deutsche Bank has been perhaps the greatest single supporter of the derivatives/financial instruments scam, the denouement of which is nigh.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  70. gotmituns says:

    I hope that the “intellectuals” who expressed “dismay” did so politely and not without qualifying their statements with a clear disavowal of her dangerous opinions likely to incite hate.
    One thing history shows is that “intellectuals” always make themselves scarce when things get dangerous. After all, they have to be around after all the bloodshed is over to hold intelligent conversations as to just how it all came about and write their books, etc.

  71. aspnaz says:

    Klaus Schwab is another German authoritarian, lets see how his plans for the great reset work out, will Germany foot the bill for this latest out-of-control German?

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @mocissepvis
  72. @Anonymous

    What’s your solution
    to only put decent people in charge of gov’t? How do you propose to do that when the mechanism cries out for abuse by the sociopaths in society?

    World history is war after war, oppression after oppression, bad gov’t after bad gov’t and you want that to continue. What a fine plan.

    How about we cut gov’t down to tiny entities that don’t have the resources for a standing military / police and the resources to provide welfare? How about we limit them to the size of Monaco or Lichtenstein? Then after that, we can cut it down further to one ruler per person, the individual, the ultimate form of democracy – anarchism – rules but no rulers.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Anonymous
  73. One thing that I could never understand is why can’t anyone point out emphatically that if the shoah didn’t happen in the manner that one can’t deviate from (law, history) shouldn’t every sane Edomite look upon that as GOOD news?

    In plain English, the holocaust deniers could be saying ” look, your people didn’t die in the huge numbers you were told of by vile methods such as gas chambers, masturbation machines etc.. and we believe we can prove it” . Personally if I were Jewish I would find that relieving and it would give me some form of closure. Of course that would make me a “self-hating jew”, which is a pretty clumsy label but basically all they could come up with under the circumstances.

    Of course I know why things are as they are but it makes me pause to think that maybe all the latest push on reviving the big H and arresting 90 year olds where they can find them is to keep brewing this fable for their own community, especially their young. Objectively I believe that they lost the fight on the internet and as such it is noticeable that they are pushing hard in the print media and with book publishing which they still control.

    Weaving tangled webs and all that becomes expensive and clutching onto lies increasingly tenuous. I sincerely wonder what the world would think about this 100 years from now. There might even be AH statues all over Europe-ha!


    • Agree: Emslander
    • Replies: @Ace
    , @Anonymous
  74. It seems that some Germans are starting to catch the Jap disease. A re-run of the Rape of Berlin might be necessary to set things straight again. Here is the Devil’s reply to Kara no Kyoukai statement on the Economist forum some years ago:

    Devils Advocate_1in reply to Kara no Kyoukai

    Kara no Kyoukai reply to Pacific 15th, 04:30

    China never defeated Japan. Japan surrendered only to the United States…

    There is some truth in your statement and it only confirms what many believe, which is that the Japanese only respects BRUTE FORCE. There is also some eerie similarity in mentality between the Japan of today and Germany between the World Wars.
    After WWI, the German army felt “betrayed” by their politicians, who surrendered “without being militarily defeated”. As a result the German right-wing did not feel obliged to accept the terms of their defeat. All that changed after WWII, in which Germany was not only soundly defeated but did so by its main victim– the USSR. The Rape of Berlin woke up the Germans so much that the denial of the Holocaust became a crime in Germany.
    The fact that the main victims of Imperial Japan– China, Korea, etc– did not actually militarily defeat Japan makes the Japanese right-wing arrogant. They feel that they are superior to their former victims while instinctively submitting to their white conquerors. It will have to take a Rape of Tokyo to bring them to their senses.
    Needless to say, your statement above merely admits that, of the War in the Pacific and East Asia, only the part between Japan and the US is settled. The part between Japan and its Asian victims is still unfinished and remains suspended. Like the war in Europe, it will take a 2nd session to bring it to conclusion. Fortunately, unlike the first session, this 2nd session will be fought when the aggressor, Japan, will be weak while its victims, China, Korea and other Asian countries, will be strong. THAT will be poetic justice done!

  75. Guess when calling you names doesn’t work, jail is next. Ursula Haverbeck is one incredibly gutsy and principled woman. They don’t make people like that anymore. As for the holocaust crowd, how insecure must you be to put a 90 year old in jail? Don’t you have legitimate facts to dispute an elderly lady? What the heck is wrong with the German government?

    • Replies: @FAITHFUL
  76. @Stan d Mute

    Who really won the Cold War?

    Obviously, it was the Russians. They got shot of the rest of the Soviet Union, most of which was an economic burden to them. This has enabled them to focus on what is actually in their national interest, not delusional ideas like world hegemony, which fixate the American political class.

    Also, the complete economic, social and moral failure of Communism was apparent to the vast majority of Russians. Few support it and, as the old Sovoks die, even fewer. This has made it much easier to reconnect to traditional beliefs, both religious and secular. There is a genuine religious revival in Russia, in contrast to America. And of course there are far more white people as a percentage of the population than in America.

    • Agree: Emslander
  77. Mrs. Haverbeck or Frau Haverbeck, if you please!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  78. There’s no difference whatsoever, in scope or morality, between what the Germans allegedly did to the Jews and what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians. None.

    Therefore the correct response to any Jew whining about “the holocaust” is to remind them of the very real holocaust that their cousins in Occupied Palestine have carried out against the Palestinians.

    • Disagree: Insouciant
    • Replies: @Insouciant
    , @EugeneGur
  79. @RoatanBill

    Not surprising. The Jewish God has no heart. Why should Jews?

  80. The pusillanimous bureaucrats of Germany, from mammy Merkel to those faggoty maggots who fill up lower strata are in the pockets of “Rothschilds” thus lack courage to speak up or act… the fatal bombing of Dresden is still fresh in their minds…

  81. Mefobills says:

    Lolbertarianism is a false ideology with inherent contradictions.. The inherent contradictions are so glaring, one has to assume the ideology is a diversionary tactic to capture the ignorant and lead them off a cliff.

    There is always hierarchy, and they pretend otherwise.

    You are right. How the hierarchy is wielded is the question that should occupy people’s minds.

    If it is controlled and wielded by Satanic jews, who are known to create a Kritarchy (rule by Judges), then nothing good can come from it. Bad government vs good government is the real argument.

    If a hierarchy is in alignment with the Logos, then good things will flow. Do, you ever hear a lolbertarian argument where they try to discern what the logos is?

    The founding fathers, especially Franklin and his Junto very much were trying to discern the natural order and logos.

    Lolbertarianism assumes that the logos is free markets and some sort of nebulous gold is money/god. They are on the side of the enemy, which is worship of money markets and mammon.

    • Agree: G J T
  82. Another interesting point is that, unless I’m misinformed, prison sentences are comparatively lenient in the Germanic derived states, including Israel, with only violent crimes typically resulting in jail time. So speaking proportionately, she is receiving sentences that would equate to say 5 to 10 years in the American system! It’s really just jaw dropping. Strike is really smart. Keep up the good work.

    • Replies: @Happy Tapir
  83. @Happy Tapir

    On a related note, I was in Poland recently, and they have slyly passed a law that it’s illegal to accuse a Pole of having been complicit in the Holocaust! It’s like legalistic satire. They are facing outrage from Israeli and free speech groups! The hypocrisy is comical. It’s just brazen.

  84. erzberger says:

    “I am glad I am American and can give my opinions/thoughts without having to worry about going to jail”

    maybe not jail but you can certainly be “tombstoned”, as one WaPo headline put it, for an off-the-cuff remark. Remember Helen Thomas? She was almost 90 when she was forced to resign, stripped of all lifetime awards, and practically forced to hide under a rock. It shocked me. Stuff like that effectively launches waves of self-censorship no jail term could possibly achieve, and without the benefit of being seen by at least a few as a martyr for free speech and democracy. It was just scary and utterly demoralizing

    What you have in the US is arguably worse than the German situation. As my favourite German poet , scientist and politician Goethe used to say: ‘ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free’

    • Agree: Daniel Rich, ariadna
    • Replies: @Badger Down
  85. annamaria says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “Do they really not see what they’re doing”

    — These officials? They do know what they are doing. The system has been selecting the least honest and intelligent. We can be sure that American ‘truth-seekers’ like Rachel Maddow and other well-paid presstitutes will never ever touch on the fate of Frau Havebeck and Julian Assange.

    There is no sign of shame or human rights concerns in the country, with the judge in the latest case stressing that Haverbeck will continue to be punished until she learns to keep her mouth shut. One can only imagine the outcry from liberal NGOs if Iran, China or Russia imprisoned an elderly woman just for questioning the government’s line.

    National Endowment for Democracy. This is the name of a perfidious US organization that has been involved in ‘color revolutions’ worldwide. The NED is firmly in Jewish hands.

  86. annamaria says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Did not you want to write “Zionism lives on!”?

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  87. Mefobills says:


    Are you still promoting your Anarchy B.S.?

    I answered you here, already:

    You are not wrong on small governments however. There is not much distance between the rulers, and the ruled. By keeping the feedback cycle local, then better-fit solutions can be tailored.

    When you get centralization of power, like what happened to Washington D.C. after 1912, then you get bad government.

    Rules but not rulers? Really? There will always be a third party required to settle two-way disputes.

    Historically that has been a King. The King, who is a servant of his people, intercedes with law and power, to then settle two-way contracts. A world of small kingdoms would work out, provided the Kings settled debts within the nation, and across national boundaries.

    Your anarchy does not comprehend that man’s relations are Debt/Credit. And, creditors always want to have perpetual credits … meaning to make debtors of the population forever. This then ALWAYS leads to polarization.

    Your anarchy ideas are not in alignment with the nature of man’s relations to man.

    Civilization requires some sort of power center to rebalance. When England ran the Talley stick system, they rebalanced debt/credit once per year, especially at big fairs, like Mayfair.

    The ancient near east, used Jubilees every 50 years. These civilizations were long lasting, and definitely not controlled by anarchy.

  88. FAITHFUL says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    It is not German, but occupied territory.

  89. annamaria says:

    You have missed the important recent development in the US: “Texas city requires Israel pledge for hurricane relief.”

    The US is officially under the rule of the Jewish State.

    In the four-page, recovery aid application posted on the city’s website, a section reads: “By executing this Agreement below, the Applicant verifies that the Applicant: (1) does not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel during the term of this Agreement.” The provision stems from a law barring the [American ] state from entering a contract with any business unless it “does not boycott Israel”. …

    Texas is not the only state to require this provision. The ACLU is suing on behalf of a public school teacher in Kansas over a similar anti-BDS law.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  90. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    There have been many moral systems of government. Nazi Germany being one of them. The reason why the American/German political systems are full of sociopaths and evil scumbags is because of the Jews and capitalists that control the entire political system through media and finance, and choose who gets to be in power. If we kick out Jews and capitalists out of the country, everything will go back to normal. It did in Nazi Germany.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  91. ConradCA says:

    You are the reason Germany put this evil women in prison. During WW2 we killed Nazis and unfortunately we missed you.

    • Troll: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Marcali
  92. @brabantian

    That’s an interesting theory but I doubt it. It’s like saying that governments are importing immigrants to rape and murder the European natives so as to encourage racism, xenophobia and right-wing fascism to take power and finally deal with all this. I somehow doubt that too. The governments and politicians would not be working against themselves. And we have yet to see that what they do would have the logical consequences on the masses that one would expect.

    Thanks for the link on Josef Burg.

  93. PolarBear says:

    Most Germans I’ve talked to hate Merkel.

  94. @USA1943

    I am glad I am American and can give my opinions/thoughts without having to worry about going to jail, regardless if they are popular or not.

    Pat yourself on the back thinking you’re better off than the Europeans. And when one got shut down and the founder arrested why haven’t 10, 100 or a thousand new smoloko.coms bloomed?

  95. handydan says:

    Great contribution for sharing “official list”. Such information sharing has put the Talmudist on the rope. I started using Talmudist instead of Jews by taking a page from their propaganda manual. Jews are fine and decent people (my opinion) it is the Talmudist or Zionist that I dont agree with.

    Interestingly enough more people are questioning the monopoly on the word Anti-Smite and pointing out that European Jews are converted jews and not semites (Khasars from Russia or Central Asia). Palestinians have the real semites. Sorry Chuck Schumer and likes.

    Found an interesting way to calm some of these hyper Talmudist like Dershowitz and Sheldon Adelson who, in the past, had accused their opponents of being Anti Semites. Just by providing them with some quotes from Talmud and asking them for explanation or accuracy.

    For example, On the day of atonement/Yom Kippur, every jew is supposed to recite the holiest prayer “Kol Nidre” three times in a Synagogue. KOL Nidrei is an agreement with God that in next 12 months any pledge, vows, oath will be null and void. May be good idea not to pay back any mortgage or keep promises. Again all those Talmudist members of congress can break their promises spiritually. . KOL NIDREI prayer

    It would be interesting if any hyper Talmudist could confirm or deny if the above statement is true. Interestingly enough I found this link on Zerohedge where Benjamin Freedman a convert to Christianity talked about WWI, WWII, Talmudist declaring war on Germany in 1933, Madison Square protest/Buycott of Germans.The speech was given in Washington, DC in 1961. So far I have not seen any challenges to his statement. check 52 mins marker

    • Replies: @Wally
  96. @animalogic

    All “history” is a political/ideological issue. The Holycoast is a cornerstone of the silly notion of American exceptionalism that has been used to sell wars of conquest long before the US actually existed. “Conservatives” love them some WW2, but can’t seem to recognize the unbroken pattern of US imperial expansion in the narrative. There are some folks who have a greater stake in promoting certain aspects of the ridiculous fable of WW2, but it’s all part and parcel of the same comic book. Were the kangaroo courts that lynched Yamashita and Homma operating in the interests of Jewish elites? Conservatives love “capitalism”, as it is alleged to be a manifestation of economic “freedom” and yet it was dependent upon international finance, chattel slavery and enclosures of land that drove people to cities where they had little choice but to submit to wage slavery in factories. The whole system was wholly dependent on repression of workers by the state on behalf of the owning class.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  97. @annamaria

    It may just be that in Israel, the HQ of their Western Empire, you’d have more freedom to criticise Jews and Zionism than in their USA/EU colonies … just may be so …

  98. @Badger Down

    I don’t think people should be imprisoned for victimless “crimes”, and it’s hard to find a victim in Frau Haverbeck’s case.


    What about all those 4th Generation Holocaust Survivors™ whose great grandaddies died on the masturbation machines and were then turned into tallow and lampshades?

    Do they not deserve generous reparations and compensation for their trauma?

    Is it suddenly not a “crime” to hurt their feelings?

    Never Again!

  99. erzberger says:
    @Happy Tapir

    It’s been a farce for a long time, basically since the US, Uk, France and USSR posed as “civilized” nations in judgment of the alleged sole criminal nation, Nazi Germany, at Nuremberg

  100. Fritz says:

    Nice article about someone few in America have heard of. Thanks!

  101. erzberger says:

    “The German abuse of this 92-year-old woman is doing extraordinary and enduring harm to the reputation of Jewry in the world, in fact ‘stoking anti-semitism’

    Maybe the Germans imprisoning this lady know that … and maybe they are sacrificing this senior woman’s freedom, and perhaps her life, in a passive-aggressive counter-attack against Jews they secretly despise

    Too afraid to confront Jewish influence groups directly, the Germans are maybe using this case of Jewish-led abuse of the elderly, in a desperate attempt to sledgehammer the Jewish structures of power that they also covertly resent”

    I’ve had similar suspicions re all this German virtue-signalling. Or is it a new version of Nazi euthanasia laws for the purpose of ridding the state of “useless eaters” aka old people, as Holocaust deniers or Nazi war criminals who, unlike their Bundeswehr successors (not to mention other armies) have not gone to war or committed war crimes for 70 yrs?

    • Replies: @Fox
  102. Great Germany died with Hitler.

  103. Mefobills says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    All “history” is a political/ideological issue. The Holycoast is a cornerstone of the silly notion of American exceptionalism that has been used to sell wars of conquest long before the US actually existed

    The exceptionalism that existed was the captured “royalty” of England. They wanted to enclose the lands of the America’s and turn it into a perpetual colony. The colony would in turn provide raw materials for the newly industrializing English system. The English “merchant” was into making money by sordid gain. By this time, Christianity didn’t have the balls to stand up to usury.

    The Kingdom of England was usurped by the Merchant, especially starting in 1694, when BOE came into being. This was the first private “corporate” stock owned national bank. They then proceeded to put the country into debt to consolidate their power. Hidden stock owners now controlled an empire.

    One branch of the Colonial experience was AGAINST this exceptionalism. This branch is the American System of Economy, a new type of economy invented in Massachusetts, which then spread to other colonies, and finally was loosely codified in the constitution. You can see it in the general welfare clause. You can also see it in Hamilton’s first report on manufacturers, where state credit from the first bank was flowing into industry and commerce.

    Do you think the “exceptionalism” people in London were happy about America industrializing and overcoming their colonial system? They were being cut out of profit, in the same way that Hitler cut them out of profit starting in 1933.

    Conservatives” love them some WW2, but can’t seem to recognize the unbroken pattern of US imperial expansion in the narrative

    It’s not an unbroken pattern. The U.S. didn’t turn to imperialism until the Spanish American War. The America’s were always a battle between Malthusian’s and agents of mammon, against those who wanted to use state credit and lift all boats.

    You are ignorant of real American history, and have to do the hard work of re-educating yourself.

    Here is a good place to start. Note that Pettigrew, the first congressman from South Dakota chronicles the insider behavior of congress critters, who in turn were beholden to monied interests.

    You can download the .pdf to start your education: Triumphant Plutocracy

    What we have today is a Plutocracy, and the founders of the constitution, especially Franklin and Jefferson and Adams were against Plutocracy. They noticed the tendency of small grasping men and their attempts at take-overs, to then self serve. Pettigrew notices the same thing.

    • Thanks: Insouciant
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
    , @Ugetit
  104. Emslander says:

    I don’t think I’m anti-Semitic. I refuse to make general statements about Jews, whether for good or for bad.

    However, I’m Germanic and have great love for my Germanic ancestors and relatives. I don’t believe that we’re a people who are somehow genetically inclined to organize a system that would seek out and kill a group of people who are identifiable by religion or ethnicity.

    Which way of thinking is more hateful of Jews? To believe that a modern nation in the 20th century organized and carried out a systematic, assembly-line mass murder because they found Jews so inherently damaging? Or, to believe that the Germanic people could not have done such a thing because they saw Jews as fellow human beings?

    Particularly because we’re forced to believe the former?

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  105. ANONymous[157] • Disclaimer says:

    A message to ALL.

    There is NO Germany today.
    Germany perished in 1945 suffering a REAL Holocaust.
    The geographical area we call “Germany” today, is nothing else but an LLC own by the terrorist “state of israel”.
    So, in “Germany” the Jews have the upper hand.

    Like the Jews have the upper hand in America.
    You thing all these things going on with the recent elections theft “the Jew” has not put his dirty hand from behind?
    Think again.
    Look at the silence of ALL Media electronic and printed.

    The Jew have set a deep state in ALL countries of the West.
    Few months ago about 40 innocent elected lawmakers in Greece (Golden Dawn Party) were send to prison because “the Jew” ordered the “Greek gov” to do so.

    It’s written in their Protocols of the elders of zion.

    Protocol Nineteen
    “Τo remove the prestige of bravery from political crime, we will put them in the dock next to thieves, murderers and all sorts of cheap and humble criminals.
    Public opinion will then confuse this category of criminals with the humiliation of others and will treat them with the same contempt. We are willing (and I hope we have succeeded) in preventing Christians from fighting revolutions in this way”.

  106. ONE word to describe the globalist/Zionist German government—SHAMELESS.

    • Agree: John Wear
  107. @Happy Tapir

    That’s the difference between a FREE nation, Poland and a criminally occupied nation, Germany.

  108. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Who else could it be?

    Tha All-lies are responsible, primarily the US. In 1956, the German Constitutional Court ruled the “old” reich – the Wiemar Republic – still existed, as had, in fact the US Supreme Court in 1950.
    Here’s a teaser for you.

  109. Jimmydan says:

    Any European Jew born between 1922 and 1945 is an automatic Holocaust survivor and eligible for handouts. After the passage of US Law S447 (in 2018-17)by Jewish senate, Poland is obligated to pay about 300 billion dollars for the “SIEZED” property of the Polish jews to survivors. Even those who left on their own will and sold their properties. The iron is that there was lot of information available on the law a few years ago but gone with the wind now. I should have saved it.

    Poles are up in arms about the forced payments and are turning into a new breed of Anti-semites.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  110. @The Real World

    Canadian elections are sole purpose elections, for federal and provincial elections, and are never held on the same day. Those elections use paper ballots counted where they were cast, with observers allowed to examine and challenge ballots. Civic and municipal elections, which includes mayors, council, reeves, and school boards are the only “multiple choice” elections held on a day that is different from a federal or provincial election. Except for a few cities using scanners, all elections use paper ballots counted where they were cast, with observers allowed to examine and challenge ballots. There are triggers for automatic recounts (used to be less than 150) and judicial review of the validity of challenged ballots is available if there are enough to change the outcome of the election. Voter ID is required in my province (all now, I believe) and federally.

    Last I heard Germany still uses hand counted paper ballots.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  111. Sixteen European countries make it illegal to verbally deny the Hollowcaust. These countries are, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Spain, Switzerland.

    For all First Amendment believers and non-believers, consider this:

    “Truth doesn’t need law to defend it; when laws are used to protect against speech or inquiry, it is safe to assume that the laws defend lies. When you find law defending a narrative, it is only proper to believe the exact opposite”.

    The death numbers for the Hollowcaust are a lie.

    • Replies: @Jimmydan
  112. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    if your comment was an attempt at irony, it failed.

  113. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    @Dr Phandrich

    You actually do believe that Poland is a free nation. There is in fact no such nation in Europe. But the muppets that now are “in power” in Poland for some reason (divide et impera, the globalist modus operandi) are at liberty to pretend that thet set the Polish nation first. I have relatives in Poland, and believe me, Poles wee duped into believing that the country is independent.

  114. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Badger Down

    I don’t think people should be imprisoned for victimless “crimes”, and it’s hard to find a victim in Frau Haverbeck’s case. Perhaps someone who believes their Grandad was murdered, rather than dying from typhus, influenza, or USUK bombing. If the German government believes that six million Jews were murdered, they should be able to dig up some evidence.

    You nailed it. She’s in jail for the “crime” of challenging Jewish and Judeo myths and lies. The Zionists, including a ton of Anglo and Bolshevik grifters, don’t want Jewish and Judeo myths and lies challenged, because they have too much “chosen” and “historical vanguard” and “persecuted” entitlement money riding on them.

  115. @Katrinka

    Ursula Haverbeck

    JVA Bielefeld-Brackwede
    Umlostrasse 100
    Bielefeld, Germany, D-33649

    TO ALL: Write a letter to Ursula. Do Unto Others.
    Letters lacking a sender’s “name” and “return address” will be rejected

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  116. KenR says:

    Sending a 92 year old woman to prison for her opinions is unimaginable. These monsters surely are not winning any friends by this, they are hardening opinion against themselves. The must know this. This isn’t rocket science. By making an example even of this poor woman they demonstrate that they will gleefully ruin anybody. Anybody. Anybody who so much as dares to question. You are dared to do anything about it.

    • Agree: ariadna
  117. IronForge says:

    Absolutely Wrongful.

    My sympathies to Frau Haverbeck.

    I am for the Proper, Fact-based Acctg of Events.

    I have been reviewing Commentaries and Arguments regarding the Holocaust deeply since I started taking Judaism and Hebrew Classes at a Jewish University in Los Angeles as I was leaving Christianity (in short, jesus-never-existed-dot-com).

    Several things I noticed, was that:

    Jewish served in several sides of Warring Factions in Both World Wars.
    Jewish of the Bolsheviks killed Millions of Russians.
    The 6 Million Figure have been tossed about semi frequently prior to WWII.
    The Headcounts for the WWII Claims don’t match the Jewish Narratives’ 6Million Figure.
    The CHE Banking Settlement with the Jewish Victims Amount was so different from the amount actually uncovered via Audits, it can’t be described as anything but a Shakedown.

    Too many exaggerating Gossipers – People and Cliques may have Committed Murderous War Crimes; but Top-Down Ethnocidal System Wide Calls to Exterminate weren’t given out or conducted En Masse.
    The Final Solution was to Deport and Relocate.

    IIRC, Directives to Expell the Jewish were given out often in Europe.

    Given the Hostilities of ISR versus IRN – noting the Calls to War, Sanctions, and Actual Assassinations these 15 years or so with Bolton Calling for a Regime Change with AIPAC Celebrating in Tehran Shortly – Directives to Expell the Jewish along with Christian Zionists, Pro-AngloMuricans, and Shah Supporters may be inevitable.

    Is this the Operative Pattern? Were the Jewish in Germany an Usurperous Economic+Political Faction as they were with the USA_KleptOchlarchic Rentier-Bankers during the 1913 TakeOver via the FEDRSV?

    Guess the DEUTSCHE and others need to continually replace the Brainwashed with the Honest and Objective on every level of Govt and Public Life.

  118. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    They care about their own citizens, at least relatively speaking. It may actually serve a defensive purpose. If the powers that be tried to go after a pole like they did demdajduk(sp?), who was actually Ukrainian, the polish government could retaliate with its own extradition charges against the persecutor. They may be protecting people of polish descent.
    I’m not sure Poland would be taken seriously, but it might provide some barrier of dissuasion.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  119. anarchyst says:

    Produce flyers with Ursula Haverbeck’s photo with the caption: “Why has this woman been imprisoned?” and on the opposite side, the phrase: “Imprisoned for thought crimes and attempting to declare the TRUTH about the jewish holocaust™ “, and pass them out in from of the jewish “freak shows” known as “holocaust™ museums”.

    A short explanation of Haverbeck’s imprisonment would also be helpful.

    Send a copy of the flyer to local media outlets with a letter feigning (fake) outrage over such flyers.

    You can bet that the local mainstream media will have it as a lead article on the local news.

    THAT is but one way to get the word out…

    Use their own media organs against them.

    If I lived near a holocaust™ museum, that is what I would do…

  120. gotmituns says:

    new breed of Anti-semites.
    What “New Breed”? They’ve always been proud Anti-Semites going back to the middle ages.
    They were even complicit in setting up the circumstances that led to Kristalnight (check it out).

    • LOL: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Jimmydan
  121. A clearcut assault on the 1st Amendment like that makes it a duty to bring them all down.

    What manner of universe do we inhabit where “evil” Funny Mustache Man lost yet evil triumphs?

  122. @Mefobills

    While I may be ignorant of real American history, it is quite evident that you don’t have the slightest understanding of it. I’m always amused when somebody decides that they’re going to help me learn via a comment section of the interwebs with a self-contradictory emission of their sentiment-driven perception of reality. Great job!
    There’s so much rubbish packed into your comment, it’s hard to pick a good place to start, so I”ll start with your claim that the exceptionalism to which I refer was actually British. The first thing you do is propose that the US economy was exceptional. It wasn’t. It entailed an elite appropriating land and accumulating capital at the expense of whomever was already on the land and those employed to work in the capitalist enterprises. Wow, that’s entirely different than Arkwright and friends, right?
    You think Hitler cut the international bankers out of their profit? How much crack does one have to smoke to believe in a fantasy like that? The Nazi state was wrapped right up in international capital, just like every other western power.
    Your assertion that US imperialism began only with the Spanish-American War is ridiculous. Do you think that the Monroe Doctrine was a travel guide? Perhaps the Mexican-American War was just a strategy board game.
    The US was a plutocracy before it was the US. The founding fathers did everything within their means to solidfy plutocratic power.
    Not satisfied with trying to pass off a string of unsupportable sentiments as an argument about historical phenomena, you have to wrap up your ode to nonsense with an arcane, pedantic allusion. By Pettigrew, do you mean Wormtail from the Harry Potter stories?
    Never stop derping, you have a great talent for it!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  123. Art says:

    Clearly Merkel and the German elite believe that the German people are a bunch of animals, who are two breaths away from a genocide, unable to control themselves. Why else would it be necessary to kill the free speech of a ninety-year-old woman. They are saying, “the German people are NOT to be trusted.” The elite are perpetuating the image of the warlike German people.

    Germany has a top-down class social structure. It is like the elite blame the failure of WWII on the warmongering nature of the German people – not on the imperial nature of the German class structure.

    The role of Germany in Israel’s war making misdeeds is great. Two wrongs can never make a right. Germany has to change its sycophantic support of Israel.

  124. @Anonymous

    What a bizarre historical fantasy you just outlined. The notion that the Nazis kicked out the capitalists is so easily contradicted by all available evidence that one is left to wonder how you could bring yourself to make such a claim.

    • Replies: @noname27
  125. @Johnny Smoggins

    There’s no difference whatsoever, in scope or morality, between what the Germans allegedly did to the Jews and what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians. None.

    Wrong in multiple ways:

    1. “What the Germans did to the Jews” is an unproved allegation. I submit it is a bold-faced lie.
    What Jews are doing to Palestinians the world can witness in real time — if they care to open their eyes.

    2. Germans were defending their own territory and culture; Jews set out to dispossess Palestinians of their land and to destroy their culture.

    3. Jews/Allies reduced Germany to rubble and terrorized the German people for years — effects lasting until today. Jews, on the other hand, left the lands they had engineered for destruction & migrated to a new land where they live comfortably in an extortioner’s holiday.

  126. ruralguy says:

    In the Nuremberg trial, the prosecution had to change the rules of evidence to proceed, because they realized they didn’t have a case without legitimate evidence. The Court accepted these changes, because it was a political charade. Our U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harlan Stone was disgusted by it, calling it a “high-grade lynching party.” Other Supreme Court justices didn’t like it either. The scientific process of determining guilt is through a court. The Nuremberg Court could not prove its case, without bending rules of evidence.

    In Russia, Jews were treated as second-class citizens during Tsarist Russia. They were very bitter and hateful towards whites, who were treated them as a lower class. When Communism came, they used this hatred of being second class as a reason to push Communism’s notion of class warfare. Most of the communist leaders were Jewish who pushed class revolution. But, they really wanted more than just class warfare — they wanted mass murder. It was rather ingenious — they used whites to instigate this revolutionary mass murder against other whites. German industrialists saw the connection, funding the German National Socialist party to stop its spread to Germany. It was spreading. There were daily battles in the streets between communists and nationalists. It was war. The second world war was about this effort to stop communism. But, the dominant left in America and the Soviet Union were accorded victors rights to rewrite history to conform with their war propaganda. Eventually, Germany will wake up from this leftist woke nightmare.

  127. This is an awful story but it is the perfect illustration of what Jews do when they get power.

    • Replies: @John Fisher
  128. Mefobills says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    You think Hitler cut the international bankers out of their profit? How much crack does one have to smoke to believe in a fantasy like that? The Nazi state was wrapped right up in international capital, just like every other western power.

    You’ve outed yourself.

    The Nazi state was forced out of the international system first by the Versaille treaty, and later by the machinations of the international:

    Germany’s most unforgivable crime before the Second World War was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.

    Your assertion that US imperialism began only with the Spanish-American War is ridiculous.

    I didn’t say that. I said that U.S. turned toward Oligarchy especially by the Spanish American war. There was always a battle between the two sides, with one group wanting to enclose the lands and take usury.

    You have terrible reading comprehension, and don’t want to learn. Don’t expect people to listen to you when you are factually incorrect.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @Rufus Clyde
  129. Cyrano says:

    Slightly OT. Does anybody think it is coincidence that the Turks are the second largest ethnic group in Germany? I think it’s a clear example of kindred spirits seeking each other’s company.

    Let me remind you, Turkey and Germany are the 2 leading countries whose achievements in holocausts are recognized by the UN.

    It’s nice to see that there’s mutual admiration between these 2 for their holocaust accomplishments and that they like to hang out together. I just hope that the situation doesn’t get out of hand and they start practicing their sophisticated holocaust skills on each other – in order to win the title – the greatest holocausters of all time.

    The only regret that I have is about the historical chronology of these 2 holocausts. The order in which they appeared gives the impression almost as if the “civilized” Germany learned the barbarity of the holocaust from their soulmates – the Turks.

    • Troll: L.K, Lurker
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Rufus Clyde
  130. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom Welsh

    >”David Irving had a similar experience…His account is very interesting, and is available online…as ‘Banged Up.’ ”

  131. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    > “Mrs. Haverbeck or Frau Haverbeck, if you please!!”

    Or maybe…Frau Blücher!

  132. L.K says:

    It is like the elite blame the failure of WWII on the warmongering nature of the German people – not on the imperial nature of the German class structure.

    Art, you are so full of S, sometimes.

    What the hell are you even babbling about, when you state nonsense like the above.

    Art, before you shoot your damn mouth about the alleged imperial nature of German elites in the past, take a LONG and deep look into the mirror, at the much more clear and real imperial NATURE of US elites… and NO, Art, it ain’t just the Jews and their influence in the US.
    The US was expansionist and militarist from the moment it became an independent country.

    David Ray Griffin writes, in “The American Trajectory: Divine or Demonic?”:

    The view of American imperialism as a benevolent enterprise devoted to the promotion of freedom, democracy, and human rights is strongly challenged by intellectuals of varying persuasions. Rejecting the portrait of a democracy-promoting American empire as a myth, they argue that the United States, like Rome and every other imperial power, has used its power to enrich and aggrandize itself, a goal that has often led it to rob, oppress, terrorize, and even slaughter other
    peoples. …


    American imperialism is often said to have begun in 1898, when Cuba and the Philippines were the main prizes.1
    What was new at this time, however, was only that America took control of countries beyond the North American continent.

    As John Bassett Moore, who had been an assistant secretary of state at that time, later wrote:
    “It is true that the expansion of 1898 involved . . . the taking of a step geographically in advance of any that had been taken before; but so far as concerns the acquisition of new territory we were merely following a habit which had characterized our entire national existence.2”

    This statement is of utmost importance, because it points
    out that, already in 1898, imperial conquest was a long-standing
    habit of American policy makers. America had been engaged in
    expansionism from the outset.

  133. Miro23 says:

    Klaus Schwab is another German authoritarian, lets see how his plans for the great reset work out, will Germany foot the bill for this latest out-of-control German?

    I’ve recently read his “Covid-19: The Great Reset”. In my opinion he was instructed to write it and instructed about the points to cover. It doesn’t have a natural feel to it.

    The first part of the book is a pack of lies about the fearful risks of Covid-19 – then it covers the multinational aspect of the virus – and the need for an internationally coordinated response. National policies are bad, national interest is bad – and the world has to build up international institutions, what he calls Global Governance.

    At various point he repeats the phrase “A crisis must not be allowed to go to waste” which got me thinking about 9/11 – which curiously involved the same crowd of people.

    My advice, is do whatever possible to not get vaccinated, and get out in the street to demonstrate against this whole psyop.

  134. @Robert Dolan

    This is an awful story but it is the perfect illustration of what Jews do when they get power.

    Indeed. It can also be summarized as follows: “The wicked are helped and the good excommunicated”

    This is an old, recurring storyline. And the long history of this conflict has proved that the solution is never going to come from those seeking cooperation, nor peaceful coexistence, nor diplomatic capitulations, which are always quibbles used by cowardly leaders and accomplices who will always end up delivering to their enemies those they claim to protect.

    The COVID hoax (with its concurring mind control, esoteric symbolism, and soon-to-be poisonous vaccine) is only the most recent chapter of a book that includes the holohoax as one of its major chapters.

  135. Skeptikal says:

    A thought that came to me recently has to do with the relationship between artificual intelligence and actual human intelligence.

    We hear a lot now about the need to harvest data from humans in order to “train” AIs (plural).

    There are many different AIs, not just one general one.

    Obviously, each human intelligence has also been “trained” over a lifetime of collecting different types of data. “Intuition” seems to me to be, actually, comparable to an AI, or HI. Each individual’s HI is “trained” via millions of data points of which we are (mainly) unconscious over the course of our lives, such as observing many people’s faces, actions, appearance, etc. Many such data points may precede conscious memory (before ca. two years old). Many more data points than could ever be collected by surveillance technologies and harvesting clicks etc. and running algorithms on them.

    Harvesting people’s actions and characteristics (and using them to train AIs) is actually theft.

    Thoughts and beliefs are part of very complex HIs. The only way for an outside entity to alter an HI is through argument/discussion, or force, a la Clockwork Orange. Attempting to take possession of an HI—one that has developed certain ideas and beliefs through a lifetime of accumulating data points—and forcibly changing it is also a crime.

    The only purpose I can see to incarcerating anyone for “false” ideas regarding WW2, or anything else, is to warn those whose HIs are less formed and for whom the info about the danger of “false” ideas about WW2 is itself a significant datapoint.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  136. Derer says:

    Assholes! Majority still believe in Ursula and not the collaborators with the minority lobby deceit.

  137. Skeptikal says:

    Kudos for citing David Ray Griffin’s The American Trajectory.

    When I read it I was underlining on every page.

    A great book. Should be read by all. Well documented.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  138. @Verymuchalive

    Germany has been an occupied country by the U\$A since WW2.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  139. Ace says:
    @Timur The Lame

    Zionists and other organized Jewry have benefited enormously from the nature and longevity of the holocaust story, which is now showing substantial fissures. If nothing else, the expenditure of effort and resources to concentrate undesirable peoples and cremate their remains makes no sense when the Germans were from the outset locked in an existential struggle requiring every possible national resource to be marshalled in aid of it.

    As well, there are the egregious Frankfurt School and its innovations resulting in an assault on Western nations through degradation of the culture rather than class struggle.

    The fanatic (successful) efforts to engineer mass immigration is also part of the strategy to undermine Christian culture and institutions, though it is has much earlier roots. No non-Jewish Westerner could think of a scheme of distilled malevolence such as the one to sell third-world “diversity” as the summum bonum of Christian, primarily mono-ethnic civilization. Not for nothing did Enoch Powell warn us of the consequences. So obvious was the threat ab initio.

    Then, too, there is the “inexplicable” silence about the crimes of the Jewish Bolsheviks that were an order of magnitude greater than even the most exaggerated claims of German perfidy. The Jew Yagoda killed more Christians than Hitler, supposedly, killed Jews yet none of this is celebrated like the moral depravity of the National Socialists. Was there some benefit to concealing Jewish hatred and crimes?

    Those Jews who have worked so hard to advance both assaults (holocaust extortion and cultural degradation) on the West are, as you point out, losing the battle for complete control of “the narrative” and so what we see is ever greater panic and redoubled efforts to lash out at honest investigators and truth tellers. “Lash out” hardly begins to describe the full-court press of vicious assaults.

    There can be no retreat from all that has been done. As the riots and stupidity everywhere clearly demonstrate, no amount of white catering to non-whites has been sufficient to “heal” the divide. Every dollar wasted, every concession made, every intellectual contortion to see blacks in the most positive light, and every murder and assault suffered by whites without retribution have been brought into sharp focus by the BLM hypocrisy and hatred. It was all for naught and all narratives stand exposed as the joke of Enlightenment civilization stands revealed and Christian charity stands unrecognized.

    Jews, leftist fanatics, and minority parasites and rejectionists have engineered, not The Great Reset, but The Great Distortion. At a very minimum, this flight from reason and inquiry is taking us all to that landmine in the middle of the road known as the iron laws of arithmetic or, alternatively, as the iron crowbar of events. Whites and Christians have extended the hand of friendship and opened their hearts to millions but the thanks we now see in the smoking ruins of our families, our culture and our institutions.

    The lid just cannot be kept on any longer.

  140. Mefobills says:

    Slightly OT. Does anybody think it is coincidence that the Turks are the second largest ethnic group in Germany? I think it’s a clear example of kindred spirits seeking each other’s company.

    The Turk’s were imported as labor. After WW2, the Nazi debts were erased by the Americans, which caused the German “economic miracle.”

    During the 1960’s Germany’s finance capitalists wanted low wage labor to fuel their export industry.

    They imported Turks.

    Lesson: Economics is upstream of politics. Finance capitalism deracinates a country.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Cyrano
    , @L.K
  141. Mefobills says:

    America had been engaged in expansionism from the outset.

    I’ve already addressed that earlier, and it is not true.

    The Colonials were in a pitched battle with expansionism inherent in finance capitalism, as it emanated from City of London.

    The construct of City of London system, which included private banks controlling a country was NEW on the world scene. This was only in 1694.

    The first bank of the U.S. had a sinking fund that was to turn the bank over to Treasury.
    The preamble to the Constitution actually says this:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    There were huge arguments about developing the West with new rail, and new waterways, and then extending american state credit down into south america.

    The turn outward toward war was the “other side” winning out. I posted Pettigrew’s book .pdf earlier, when I was countering Rufus’ mental confusion. It is a good book to read as it is a ringside seat from an honest congressman from that period of time.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  142. blaqua says:

    The Jewry together with the goyish ‘defenders’ of freedom of speech and democracy gag this brave old woman and her ilk. After all, the \$662 million the 240,000 (!!) holocaust (haha) survivors will receive from German taxpayers are so sweet and must never be questioned!

  143. GeeBee says:

    ‘Rufus Clyde’ (how very White sounding his chosen username is) is odds-on sitting in Tel-Aviv with his uniformed JIDF chums, typing from a prepared screed, whose purpose is to push the ‘Hitler was controlled opposition, Nothing to see here goyim’ line. A la Christopherstein Bjerknesberg and his fantasy Island ramblings.

    Pay them no heed. Do not feed the trolls!.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  144. Culpepper says:

    What is Frau Haverbeck’s postal address?
    She might welcome a few Christmas cards

  145. Ugetit says:

    Pettigrew knew the score and his book is excellent. Charles Lindbergh, Sr. also knew what was up.

    Civilization has reached the point where the people ought to consider…That we are slaves of a money system … and that [we ought to ask whether] the Wall Street financiers are working in the interests of the people or in their own interests…

    -Charles A. Lindbergh, Banking and Currency and the Money Trust, p 4

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  146. @Mefobills

    “‘Your assertion that US imperialism began only with the Spanish-American War is ridiculous.’

    I didn’t say that.”
    That is exactly what you said:

    “The U.S. didn’t turn to imperialism until the Spanish American War.”

    So are you simply dishonest or too dumb or too disturbed to accurately recall your own words?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  147. Lee says:
    @Greg Bacon

    GB said:

    It’s coming, I’d bet a dozen bagels that soon Americans won’t be able to ask historical WWII questions w/o getting sent to prison filled with murderers, rapists & violent felons that when released, join ANTIFA.

    With mostly SJ studies being offered in school now, most of Americas youth don’t know enough about US history to even formulate a historical question at any level.

  148. Georgia says:

    A German I know states the worst thing that happened was “reunification”–and many agree they told me–this brought in NWO Communist like Merkel into power–West Germany was way better off without East Germans like her

  149. Ugetit says:

    We hear a lot now about the need to harvest data from humans in order to “train” AIs (plural).


    A close friend of mine was incensed that the local public “health” service asked her about her sexual preferences when interviewing her regarding a recent COVID test that finally came back supposedly positive. The only reason she gets the things is that they’re mandated by her work place.

    Now I’m starting to understand a few more things about this scam…

  150. @GeeBee

    I’m sitting in a pair of sweat-pants in my living room in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. You are entirely incapable of putting together an informed, reasoned argument, so you fabricated a scenario which has no relation whatsoever to reality. Congratulations on yet another triumph of derpism. The go-to move of the ‘tard is to call someone a troll. It’s funny because I have found that both right-wing dolts and progressive dunces alike love using that term when they can’t make an argument.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
    • Replies: @GeeBee
  151. Art says:

    Oh my – here we have another “somebody else was worse” argument. “So don’t you dare say something about my tribe.” Sorry, US wrongs do not get German wrongs off the hook.

    Hmm — who is guilty of putting down the German people? Why don’t you defend the German people from the putdown of Merkel who says that they are unstable warmongering animals, unworthy of free speech?

  152. The left speaks of the difference’s between educated and non-educated people endlessly. Yet on this issue they have not acted as educated people do. One of the distinctions the left makes is that the educated have a greater ability to discriminate–including a finer sense of right from wrong as it were. Yet, the left both in Germany and elsewhere around the world, are silent on issues like this and this is what labels them as fakes, both intellectually and morally speaking.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  153. noname27 says: • Website

    Statism is a topic of Political Science which is unadulterated intellectual bullshit. The great pity is I can’t spread it on my veg patch and make some good use of it.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  154. Jimmydan says:

    Dont worry about Holocaust debate. The truth is coming out slowly and now the Zionist profiteers are worried and running in retreat.
    I for one, prefer to read the analysis where the author/s raise questions rather than butting heads. Where these 6Mil numbers are coming from? Why Obama’s Grandfather joined the Soviets to liberate Auschwitz and did not stay with the American forces (Americans did not liberate Poland as Obama bragged during his campaign). Asking pointed questions will add some sober points in the debate.

    1.Questions like where the Germans got the fuel to burn so many bodies. were the dead buried or burned.
    2. What was the method of burning ? Incineration, Open pit, Ovens direct or indirect heat.
    3. If buried instead of burned, where are the remains. The witnesses testified that prisoners were forced to crush the bones and the ashes were buried.
    4. Is it true the gas chamber doors closed from inside as David Cole (a Jew himself) on Phil Donahue showed the pictures of the gas chambers locked from insider.
    5. Which gas was used for killing. Contradictory statements from several witnesses. Carbon Monoxide, Diesel Engine exhaust or chemicals for killing tics. Witnesses testified that a captured Russian tank engine was used to produce diesel exhaust as poison gas. What was the fate of that engine?
    6. In one of the survivor books claims were made that he saw piles of victims clothes as high as 125 feet high. How it is possible. And of course the the “scholars” are eager to believe and use it as a reference.
    4. Elie Wiesel, the Auschwitz survivor, did not have any tattoos on him. How come?
    5. In the old documentaries taken by the “GIs”one can spot Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock with Jewish prisoners. What were they doing in the concentration camps during filming
    6.Discrepancies of witness accounts used in the Nuremberg Trial followed by documentation in books and research by the contradictory testimonials make me wonder which witness to believe.

    There is not reason to get involved into pissing match. Just asking questions would be helpful to clear the history. I hope someone would answer any of the questions above? I am not very smart but sure am curious.

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @Ugetit
    , @anarchyst
  155. noname27 says: • Website
    @Rufus Clyde

    Feel free to give some examples of how and where German National Socialist international bartering of goods counted as capitalism.

    “As long as Germany and Italy are under their present governments, they will not touch foreign loans,and Germany by her method of internal economy and trading has eliminated the international financier, and those who make profits by playing with foreign exchanges.

    That is doubtless why the government is being forced by the “City” (Rothschilds) to start a trade war with Germany. If the economic methods devised by Germany are successful, and spread to other nations, and if Hitler succeeds in his policy of establishing permanent peace in Europe, the high financier will cease to be able to exist. It is therefore their main interest today to plunge the four powers into war, in order to destroy Germany and Italy”

    — Written by the Scottish chemist Arthur Pillans Laurie, on page 91 (or page 90 of the pdf which can be found online) of his 1939 book “The Case for Germany”.

    “Germany’s unforgivable crime before the second world war,” Churchill said,” was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny (Jew) world finance its opportunity to profit.”

    – Winston Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in the Foreword, 2nd Ed. Sydney Rogerson, Propaganda in the Next War 2001, orig. 1938.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  156. Ace says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Novice lawyers learning their profession are routinely warned never to forget that law is not justice, and that it is not necessarily fair.

    The law, after all, is nothing more than a series of proclamations decided on by politicians.

    This was not even close to my experience in an American law school. No professor or textbook announced such absurdities. I studied no case whatsoever that was not offered as an example of the court’s effort to apply known rules to an identical situation or of its efforts to achieve a reasonable, hence, just result in the context of a specific dispute with with unique or slightly different circumstances. No American lawyer will argue that the overall effort has not been to make law work for individuals and yet allow for effective government.

    That there are excesses and deficiencies as well as cases that prove political or criminal manipulation of the result will not be denied by any lawyer. However, no one has ever said that these aberrations define the achievements of lawyers through the ages. The price of going to court is, unfortunately, high but then litigation is extremely taxing and litigators simply must be compensated for this. Contingent fees are abused, however, to reward some firms with exorbitant and unearned fees. Public defenders and legal aid lawyers have been an honest effort to help solve the problem of legal costs.

    And, no, law is not the result of the “proclamations” of politicians. One of the beauties of the common law is that certain rules have developed over the centuries as announced by different judges in different times with different parties and different facts that have, like Zeno’s traveler, gradually approached the ideal of “justice” in each case. The resulting distillation, if you will, is held in such regard that mere statutes issuing from the legislature that are in derogation of the common law are to be construed strictly.

    The grotesque collection of seminal U.S. Supreme Court cases is a bug not a feature of the law.

  157. The lesson in this story is, be careful in not only what you DO but in how you THINK, as well. Always think the “right way”……

  158. @paranoid goy

    Deutsche ]not “Deutsce”] Bank is not state owned. Last I heard the Qatari royal family was the biggest shareholder.

  159. Jimmydan says:

    Of course there were Jews haters in the middle ages, but the term Anti-Semite came in 1860s in Vienna as discussed on this site by several commentators (Also, Hannah Arendt author of The Origins of Totalitarianism).
    Those jews who scream about anti-semitism are Talmudist or converted jews of Europe. They are not semites. Palestinians are semites.

  160. @Curmudgeon

    Good info, thanks.

    Did you have any elections this year that were handled any differently than before?

    Running elections is quite a different endeavor for a country of 37 million population than one of 340+ million. Plus, it sounds as if your standards are set nationally, is that true? We allow each state to decide how to run elections. That can be good and bad.

    (Gee, so now I can’t let Canadians off the hook for that fruitcake as PM.)

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  161. @Verymuchalive

    You said “Germany” was “very much indebted”Deursch Bank is a private bank. Don’t you know the difference? (Apparently the Qatari royal family has the biggest shareholding. It is not comparable to the Bank of England).

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  162. (((Novo Bolsheviki))) scum, Gubbamint…,AOC/Schumer/Feinstein/etc…. and Private…Zuckerberg/Brin/Wojcicki/Dorsey… want egregious legalistic scumbaggery like that in Germany and The EU to be smeared here, as the scum piss all over and defile The First Amendment…
    same intended for 2A.

    on (((Commie Scum))) , their sub-human pets and sniveling Cuck toadies.

  163. @Georgia

    Pls ask your German friend whether it is commonly believed in Germany that Hitler died as has been historically described or do many believe he escaped?

    Also, what do they think about the rumors that Merkel is his daughter? Thanks….

    • Replies: @Ace
  164. @L.K

    The Spanish American War of 1898 was to prevent Japan from invading the Phillipines from Formosa(seized in the 1895 Sino-Japanese War). Japanese aggression was directed at the weakest adversaries first: Ryukyu Islands/Ainu Hokkaido/Northern Island Chain weakest, Korea next weakest, then China. After that it was to be Spain’s turn, with The Phillipines a lush prize and, like Formosa, a base for further invasions. Japan also intended to seize The Hawaiian Islands but The United States preempted that as well, as a check on Japanese aggression, and as a vital base for the inevitable war with The Japanese Empire. The United States was fully aware of Japanese aggressive plans and that the European colonial powers were weakening and engaged in self destructive wars with each other, giving Japan a golden opportunity. The Japanese were just too arrogant to understand The United States had their number. The Phillipines was never held as a colony by The United States, it was scheduled for independence in 1944. After The Spanish American War, Japan was forced to go after The Russian Empire in Asia, also weak but not as weak as Spain. Your view of history is at Blue-Hair-Plus-A-Nose-Ring level, wallowing in the dishonest Howard Zinn, feeding off a knuckleheaded anti-Americanism, you understand nothing.

  165. So, all the German men that died at the East, West, North and South front died because of…?

    Zionism is worse than cancer.

    Cancer is a defect/mutation.

    Zionism is a woefully defunct mindset.

    Unfortunately there’s only one remedy: it needs to be eradicated.

  166. @Badger Down

    If the German government believes that six million Jews were murdered, they should be able to dig up some evidence.

    That’s assuming Germany is run by Germans [and ignore the star spangled Overlord behind the curtain].

    • Thanks: Rufus Clyde
    • Replies: @L.K
  167. Fox says:

    There is no strategy at work. Rather it reflects the extraordinary distortion the once healthy German thinking has undergone to now regard and judge a German position as illicit. I.a.words, it is the Stockholm Syndrome of identifying as the victim of extraordinary threats and violence with one’s violators and jailors. It has also been called Induced Insanity. It’s the result of the hate propaganda fully developed in the First World War, the cosmic lie of Article 231 (War Guilt) of the “Treaty” of Versailles with full and gleeful reaping of all its benefits for satisfaction of primitive revenge, chauvist fantasies and monetary gain, and the continued barrages of hate following from there. Be it the denunciation of a German reawakening and recovering under Chancellor Hitler, the systematic induction of a Second War against the hated Germans, its atavistic execution and giving free expression to every primitive desire for rape, violence, murder, theft, humiliation, counterbalanced by blaming the party who was the victim of these machinations. It has been found necessary to lie about everything concerning Germany and the war, how it came about, why it came about, who refused to take action to relieve the tensions that led to its final outbreak, who expanded the extent of the war, who brutalized it, who laughed about attempts to end it, who was out for total destruction and annihilation, who advertized genocide (Morgenthau, Kaufman, Nizer, Hooton, Churchill, Eden, Roosevelt, Ehrenburg in the Reds’ service). All of these questions were intentionally left out in the final farcical performance of the “War crimes Trials”, and the accusers, prosecutors, “judges” and executioners made their own rules in their daily lunch meetings to install their new morality.
    German women were raped by the millions, their men were additionally humiliated by making them watch and rub it in that they could not even protect their women and children, were not even allowed.
    As a further guard against any opposition atrocity propaganda as invented before and during the war is being promoted and established as “fact” by relentless repetition, a cult of ritual “remembrance”, a creation of a kind of “scourge of god” by arresting old people on their death bed in Intensive Care units to process them in a court of demented degenerates who themselves have been completely turned awat from normalcy by exposition to the screeching loudspeakers of anti-German hate rituals for year and years.
    Such evil has consequences, one of which is that Germans who are running the FRG have been selected from among those most willing to believe or act in accordance with even the most obvious falsehoods they have hammered into their minds by the school curriculum (pseudo history), TV, radio, film, newspapers, art, entertainment, speech codes, hostage taking and punishing (as with Ursula Haverbeck), a general inducement of fear, brazen robbery by misappropriating everything decent German people have created and handing it to non-Germans, dissolution of the fabric of the German Peoples. In short: A daily, ongoing and relentless humiliation no one may protest against.

    Ursula Haverbeck is a human being of outstanding moral fibre, inner strength and daring, she has always defied the weaklings and lemmings of political expediency and easy careerism, and she has set an example to those feeling that all is lost. May she still live for many years to hopefully witness the inevitable end of the farce we have to live in.

    • Thanks: Mulegino1, anarchyst
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @erzberger
  168. @Stan d Mute

    Who really won the Cold War?Who really won the Cold War?

    Well…, the MIC, of course!

  169. I’m Jewish.

    I find holocaust denial offensive.

    I disagree with many conclusions here at about the holocaust.

    The idea of sending an old woman to prison for holocaust denial is lunacy.

    Let her go free. This is a violation of her human rights.

    I disagree with her and I’m offended by her but sending her to prison is EVIL.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @anarchyst
    , @Ace
    , @Handydan
  170. @Skeptikal

    David Ray Griffin promotes slimy lies, he “analyzes” nothing, you have been conned, you were “underlining” intellectual excrement. Read my reply to L.K’s goofy comment, that is the truth regarding The Spanish-American War.

  171. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Excellent post.

    Concise and truthful.

    Thank you, Sir.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  172. Lot says:

    “ Official list of Revisionist scholars persecuted / imprisoned for questioning the “Holocaust”:”

    Persecuted because they were mentally retarded: Sad!

    Nazis have lost both the shooting war in 1945 and the war of ideas ever since. While defeating your enemies in arguments is good, the Nazis themselves realized that jailing them was better.

  173. Skeptikal says:

    Well, not only Turks.

    Also many, many were Yugoslavs.

    And Greeks.

    And Italians.

    And Moroccans.

    Switzerland, too. That is, also imported a lot of foreign workers.

    I don’t know the numbers for the different groups.

    AFAIK Turks, even if born in Germany (children of Gastarbeiter), do not automatically have German citizenship.

    Jus sanguinus.

    However, certain groups do seem to have formed very powerful gangs in certain parts of Berlin.

    IF you do a search for “gangs in Berlin” you get a few stories about criminal gangs in Germany but I didn’t see any mention of the ethnicity of the gangs.

    However, I have read about a powerful Arab clan with its headquarters on the outskirts of Berlin that has taken over a number of properties.

  174. Ace says:

    Assuming that such testimony or accounts exists, the purpose of a 125-ft. pile of clothing is not clear.

    For one, it would be difficult to create such a pile just by throwing clothing onto a pile. As it would be to create a pile using a bulldozer. An elevating conveyor belt could create such a pile if of suitable length. But why?

    Rain would be a certainty within a couple of weeks so all that would result would be a moldy pile of clothing in short order, of no use to anyone. And what is so valuable about used civilian clothing? What was the thinking of officials to generate such a pile? Presumably, it would be labor saving to have the victims of the gas chambers remove their clothing on some pretext but why create that extra step? To fool the victims who otherwise would have offered resistance to being “deloused”?

    Creating the pile for its own sake would seem to be the logical conclusion to be drawn.

    Just burying or cremating victims with their clothing seems the simplest approach for your average war criminal. Very little energy would be needed to incinerate clothing. End of problem.

    But, no. Scavenging used clothing was very important to the Reich.

  175. Ace says:
    @The Real World

    They are probably just rumors.

    Just my preliminary assessment, of course.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  176. Skeptikal says:

    Some Colonial groups were more expansionist than others. But expansion into the West was always an issue. It started very early on, as New England farms were used up and families grew.

    In the late Colonial/early Revolutionary period “the West” was western Pennsylvania and other areas that we think of now as part of “the East.” These areas, particularly in Appalachia, were barely settled, and these were the real frontier areas (see discussion in David Hackett Fischer, “Albion’s Seed”).

    An excellent and readable account of the complexities of controlling western expansion by land-hungry Colonials , as the British attempted to do, in order to prevent incursions into Indian (and French) lands, is “Frontier Rebels: The Fight for Independence in the American West, 1765–1776,” by Patrick Spero.

    Of course the Europeans wanted to expand west!! Don’t be silly. They also wanted to expand south. They wanted to expand. They were merchants, traders, entrepreneurs.

    The free-for-all for the West really started after the Civil War. Of course, who would control the West was the underlying issue in the run-up to the Civil War. An excellent, very readable and colorful account (with plenty of details on the personalities and their financial “inventions” )is Matthew Josephson, “The Robber Barons.”

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  177. Ugetit says:

    5. In the old documentaries taken by the “GIs”one can spot Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock with Jewish prisoners. What were they doing in the concentration camps during filming

    I hope someone would answer any of the questions above?

    May I take a stab at answering one?

    [The former POWs] agreed that the cattle cars were filled with captured German soldiers who were infected with typhus and dysentery. They were in fact unwitting extras in a movie being made by Alfred Hitchcock, the Hollywood horror-film specialist. He had been awarded a contract to make a movie about concentration camps for the Nuremberg tribunal. At night the dead prisoners would be unloaded at Buchenwald, Dachau and other concentration camps by those who were still alive. Hitchcock would then film them, depicting the heaps of corpses as victims of German atrocities. A large number of corpses were dumped at Buchenwald at night, and next day the citizens of Weimar were forced to walk past the heaps of rotting corpses and smell the sickening stench. Some of them actually believed the American propaganda, that the corpses had been concentration-camp inmates. It was all filmed as part of Hitchcock’s movie. Afterwards the corpses were shoved into mass graves in the vicinity. That too was part of the script. This is the explanation that the two former officers of the US Army gave me concerning the trainload of dying German prisoners that I witnessed on June 16, 1945.
    -Auschwitz, Buchenwald and Alfred Hitchcock’s First Horror Movie
    From the Memoirs of a German Soldier
    Nemo Anonymous

    I hope the link still works.

  178. anarchyst says:

    Judicial notice”, a questionable and dishonest legal doctrine, is used to turn a “commonly accepted belief”, however wrong, or even scientifically and physically impossible, into the equivalent of “religious orthodoxy” from which no dissent or counter-argument is permitted.

    THIS is the tool that jews use to legitimize even the most outlandish and ridiculous holocaust claims. Once “judicial notice” is invoked, evidence disproving holocaust claims CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR BE INTRODUCED AS EVIDENCE into the court records.

    This tactic was used in the Nuremberg trials to nefarious effect, and is used in today’s “kangaroo courts” against those who dare question the lies, fabrications, and claims of witnesses about any aspect of the holocaust.

    The latest victim of “judicial notice” and “holocaustianity ” is Ursula Haverbeck who is presently incarcerated in a German high-security prison for promoting “holocaust heresy” as we speak.

    TRUTH cannot be used as a defense when “judicial notice” is invoked.

    In fact, Sylvia Stolz, a German lawyer was imprisoned for attempting to defend her client who was also being prosecuted for questioning aspects and claims of the so-called holocaust.

    This abuse of basic human rights and jurisprudence must be exposed for what it is…

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  179. anarchyst says:

    From an engineering and logistical standpoint, NONE of the claims made by holocaust™ “survivors” and promoters is possible.

    –Killing jews with “bug spray” (Zyklon B) is not only impossible, but is laughable on its face.

    –Transporting jews to “camps”, utilizing scarce energy sources, transportation and logistical difficulties only to kill them is not only problematic but impossible as well.

    –Tattooing camp inmates only to kill them is also problematic.

    –If the “camps” were truly “death camps” why would medical facilities, recreational facilities, brothels, movie theaters, and other amenities be needed?

    –“Gas chambers” with non-sealed wooden doors and the lack of ventilation systems for such facilities, once again, disproves the claims made by holocaust™ promoters. Doors that “swing the wrong way” would make retrieval of the bodies impossible. Ordinary light fixtures, rather than explosion proof lighting fixtures are claimed to have been the norm.

    –Claims by holocaust™ promoters that gassed bodies were blue or green (rather than bright red) from poisoning are totally false.

    –Claims that the inmates could tell when jews were being cremated by the smell or the color of smoke emitted from the crematoria chimneys are patently foolish and false.

    –Let’s not forget “lampshades, wallets, soap and shrunken heads” made from jews is also laughable,

    –Crematoria running 24 hours a day, without “downtime” for maintenance on the muffles and flames “visible out of the crematoria stacks” are also impossibilities. Crematoria are designed to burn “clean” with no visible smoke and definitely no flames outside the stacks would be possible. Not only that, the claims that thousands of bodies were cremated daily are a statistical impossibility as it takes approximately 1.5 hours to cremate a human body. If cremation were used on “6 million” jews, the cremation process would have been operating into the 1950s.

    –The lack of depositories for bodies and ashes is more proof that the “camps” were not “death camps” but rather “work camps” for the German war effort.

    –Anne Frank’s “diary” partially written with a ball-point pen which was not invented till the 1950s. Time travel, anyone? lol The Frank family was a cabal of black-marketeers and smugglers that got “caught”–nothing more. In fact, Ann Frank’s father survived the war being treated at the Auschwitz hospital

    Germans were (and still are) excellent engineers and would not have engineered the grievous errors that are claimed by holocaust promoters.

    Follow the shekels…

  180. Tinkerer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    you have the guns, they have the laws..

  181. While I totally support Frau Haverbeck’s right to say what she wants without fear of punishment, the article deliberately avoids saying just who the people it states opposed the “Auschwitz lie” were. Otto Remer, for instance, was the man who on Hitler’s direct orders was more instrumental than anyone else in crushing the 20 July 1944 coup. Degrelle, the Belgian Nazi, was a Quisling against his own nation that was invaded by the Germans and a collaborator who escaped to Franco Spain at the very end of the war. Neutral and disinterested people they aren’t.

  182. Also, Holocaust Denial is – whether rightly or wrongly – a crime under German law, and Haverbeck cannot possibly be ignorant of that fact. When you deliberately and knowingly break a law, whether unjust or otherwise, you cannot claim to have been victimised because you’re made to suffer the consequences.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Anne Lid
    , @Skeptikal
    , @Ace
  183. Janusz says:

    “I am glad I am American and can give my opinions/thoughts without having to worry about going to jail, regardless if they are popular or not.”

    Not for long

  184. bmx357 says:

    Hard to believe Merkel is still in power. The Turkish invasion she enabled was well underway 15 years ago when I lived in Germany. Young Germans seemed peculiarly effeminate, while Turks were hyper masculine. They carried tasers when they went out, always in large groups (men only) looking for blondes to plow and proudly disrupting bucolic gatherings, festivals, etc. The hardier stock of older Bavarians would occassionally whisper in hushed tones about how they resented them, but even that gave the impression of total futility.

  185. @Bombercommand

    Hilarious. All the US imperial expansion in the Pacific was forced upon the US in order to prevent the imperial expansion of another power. They just accidentally ended up with all the marbles, right?
    The Phillipines were without question taken as a colony by the United States. The Treaty of Paris was negotiated with no Filipino involvment. If that is not expansionist colonial aggression, then what possibly could be? The Platt Amendment outlining US control of Cuban affairs was without question the work of colonial swindlers.
    Your view of history is dependent on lying and/or delusion.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  186. Cyrano says:

    There is more to the German-Turkish “friendship” than it meets the eye. Not only they have the 2 largest holocausts on their resumes, but they also share another peculiarity.

    They (used to) or still belong to ideologies that are jihad prone. Let me explain. Turks themselves are not prime jihad material per se, but their religion is. Most of the conquests and atrocities accompanying those conquest that the Turks did in their history, were not based on religion, they were simply imperial conquests, but still religion did play a part in them.

    While Nazi Germany’s desire to conquer the world, was a classic example of capitalist jihad gone completely insane. I mean their main selling point for attacking the USSR was to save the precious capitalism from the Godless communists and Jews.

    The funny thing is, after WW2, the leading “democracy” in the west picked up this mantle of capitalist jihad from the Germans and carried it on to the present day. All the wars of the above mentioned greatest democracy ever, bear the mark of capitalist jihad – because that was the objective number one – to preserve that most valuable ideology – capitalism from any new ideas about how to run societies and economies.

    No need to worry, history doesn’t wait for anyone, despite all those fanatical capitalist jihads, when it’s time comes, capitalism will also be replaced by something more modern and advanced. History is unforgiving that way.

    • Troll: HeebHunter, Ace, G J T
    • Replies: @Fox
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @Ace
  187. Merkel and her little goon-squads (including those on the courts in Occupied Germany) need for a good douching-out with Tabasco sauce.

  188. Mulegino1 says:

    Persecuted because they were mentally retarded: Sad!

    Presumably, you are referring to their persecutors and not to those persecuted. I would say that the blind seeking of vengeance on defeated enemies regardless of its effect upon subsequent history- a total lack of foresight-is certainly a characteristic of retardation.

    The prosecutors and judges at the Nuremberg show trial did not have the prescience to realize that the nooses they knotted there would eventually be placed around the necks of their children and grandchildren. Jewry is notoriously ungrateful to and unmindful of its benefactors. There is a reason that the Holy Week liturgy refers to them as perfidious.

  189. Fox says:

    “Conquer the world”. Oh dear! Where did you read that? Oh yes, that’s what Roosevelt introduced to the world, complete with his fake maps of the Wehrmacht coming in from South America after occupying it first.
    For people with a sense of proportion, it is very instructive to look at a globe and compare the size of Germany versus the overall size of the land mass on the globe (= world) and then make an argument. Your comment shows a rather complete failure of comprehension of how the war developed and how and why it expanded.

    • Thanks: Ugetit
    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @L.K
  190. @noname27

    Your opening statement is a logical fallacy, as I did not claim that “German National Socialist international bartering of goods counted as capitalism”.
    I stated that a claim that Hitler kicked the capitalists out of Germany is untrue, which it is, the two opinions that you cited in lieu of actual evidence aside.
    How do you suppose that General Motors operated in Nazi Germany if the capitalists had been kicked out?
    How about the Union Banking Corporation? Coca cola? Westinghouse?
    US companies held hundreds of millions of dollars worth of assets in Nazi Germany. Were these US companies not capitalist?
    Feel free to point out the original source from whence comes your Winston Churchill “quote”. So much derping for you to do, so little time. Ready, set, go!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @noname27
  191. Max Payne says:

    That’s what governments are for. To stand in a man’s way.

  192. The Terrorist Theocracy of Eretz Ysrael & its war criminals owe most of the world truly massive reparations, starting with the Germans & Palestinians.

    May Ursula live to see them brought to justice.

    Our deepest respect & best wishes to you Ursula.

  193. Mefobills says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    This is what I said, and I repeat, you have low reading comprehension:

    It’s not an unbroken pattern. The U.S. didn’t turn to imperialism until the Spanish American War. The America’s were always a battle between Malthusian’s and agents of mammon, against those who wanted to use state credit and lift all boats.

    Always a battle implies that the battle was on-going before the Spanish American war.

    GeeBee says to not feed the trolls. I should take his advice.

    How’s the weather in Tel-Aviv?

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  194. @Ace

    Do you realize that your comment added zero of value? Smh…

    Meanwhile, enjoy having a gander at these:

    Install a different combination of keywords and find more to read.
    I’m inclined to think he escaped; the official story is too hokey and unsubstantiated.

    • Replies: @Ace
  195. @Verymuchalive

    Nope, it shows how weak your men are when the system does this.

    Grow balls

  196. Mefobills says:

    Some Colonial groups were more expansionist than others. But expansion into the West was always an issue. It started very early on, as New England farms were used up and families grew.

    Yes, the private banking money system hypothecates new bank credit against land. It then wants its new “debt instruments” to perform, usually by exploiting new land, or acquiring cheap labor.

    The debts mount in a closed system. But, if you have an open system, like more land, or move WEST young man, then you can pay expanding debt claims.

    ONCE AGAIN. I am making the true statement, that the finance capitalist system invented by our (((friends))), which became fully codified in Bank of England by 1694, predicts exactly what happened.

    With the former King’s Talley stick system, and settling debts/credits every year, there was no finance incentive for making people run on a treadmill.

    The colonial group that was LESS EXPANSIONIST was the American system of economy, which pumped state credit into the commons and into building out infrastructure.

    This thread of American history seems to be forgotten.

    Frederick List carried the American System to Germany. Germany soon out-performed the finance capitalists ensconced in London. English inability to compete created rage and jealousy among these English and Jewish partners in crime.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  197. Mefobills says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    How do you suppose that General Motors operated in Nazi Germany if the capitalists had been kicked out?
    How about the Union Banking Corporation? Coca cola? Westinghouse?
    US companies held hundreds of millions of dollars worth of assets in Nazi Germany. Were these US companies not capitalist?

    ALL COMPANIES in Germany under national socialism, were given directives and came under state control. These companies are still allowed to take a profit, just not so much that they do damage to the body politic.

    This is the key point to fascism, and National Socialism is a form of Fascism. National Socialism ran an industrial capitalist system, where STATE CREDIT funneled into industry to then build out said industry. When Hitler came to power, control over the Reichsbank was no longer under the Dawe’s plan… the Reichsbank was under Chancellorship control

    Capitalists are not kicked out of fascist industrial capitalist economies, they are put under control, to then prevent corporate excess, and the taking of sordid gain. China does some of the same things today, with the most recent reigning in of Fintech.

    In 1926 Mussolini nationalized the banks because privateer banksters were swinging stock shares prices. They were swinging the market, and taking sordid gain.

    Again, fascism is a type of capitalism. More specifically it is Industrial Capitalism, not finance capitalism.

    I don’t usually fling ad-hominems, but since you started it… you don’t have two digits of IQ to rub together. Actually, that is not really an ad-hominem, but an observation.

    You should stop commenting rather than digging a hole, because you are making a fool of yourself.

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    • Thanks: glib, HeebHunter
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  198. @Cyrano

    “…Nazi Germany’s desire to conquer the world…”

    Bwahahaha. 😂😂😂😂

    Still believe in the Easter Bunny, also? I bet you just can’t wait to see what Santa brings you this year. (Hope Santa has been social-distancing.)

    • Agree: Ugetit
  199. The Jews are truly the sickest of all criminals and abusers against humanity. They’re so psychopathic that they very well know why the Nazis did what they did, but, they have no capacity to accept, let alone learn or improve from that experience, like the true psychopaths that they are, everything is everyone else’s fault and they need to be made to suffer for daring to resist after centuries of Jewish abuse.

    How dare an old lady have free speech and say things that the original white supremacists, the Jews, not approve of! Get her!

  200. Timmy75 says: • Website

    ask your do”Libertarianism isn’t going to save us, statism will. ” Ask your doctor is affixing a plastic bag over your head just before dozing off at night is right for you. Use only as directed.

  201. Ace says:
    @The Real World

    Actually, I do realize that. Nothing I contribute has any value except from the standpoint of students of abnormal psychology.

    Tbh, I heard that Hitler became a tango instructor in Argentina which I have no reason to doubt. It’s the part about Angela being his daughter that I find hard to believe.

  202. Dr.Abisha says:

    There’s a video, in the short video’s section of site that features Auschwitz survivors from the Shoah Foundation archive talking about their time in Auschwitz. They recalled fond memories, with mirth, of soccer games with the SS men, the childrens theatre, symphonies, “the cinema!” one old man exclaimed “you’re gonna build us a cinema?” He was astonished at the hospitality of the Germans. Now that photo of the staff looking like a light hearted bunch makes sense. Everywhere I’ve seen that photo of the jovial Auschwitz staff and there’s comment’s there mostly baffled at how such innocent looking people could be such monsters. Now it makes sense.

  203. Cyrano says:

    Are you familiar with the term megalomania? The total landmass of the world is about 140 million sq km or so. The size of the USSR was about 22 million sq km. That’s more than one 7th of the total world land mass.

    Germany at the beginning of the WW2 was about 500 thousand sq km (it’s much smaller now – so much for winning more lebensraum).

    That means that when Germany attacked the USSR, they attacked a colossus that was 44 times bigger then them. It probably is one of the biggest mismatches of warring parties – landmass size wise in history.

    The point is if they can be so deranged to attack someone who is 44 times bigger than them, it’s no big deal if you add about 100 or so more million sq km for further considerations -after the planned initial victory. I believe the Nazi motto could have been: “Dream big, or go home”. And they eventually did go back to much smaller home.

    • Replies: @Fox
    , @Ugetit
    , @Rufus Clyde
  204. @anon

    Actor Mel Gibson got into a heap of trouble by drunkenly ranting about “Jews run Hollywood”.
    I rather like the way he later said “Of course Jews don’t run Hollywood.”
    Now he has said it both ways, so it’s just up to everyone to figure it out for themselves.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  205. @erzberger

    And all Helen Thomas said was that the Jewish invaders should get out of Palestine and go back to Germany, Poland, or anywhere else. Can’t an American have an opinion anymore?

    • Replies: @erzberger
  206. @Rufus Clyde

    My comment outlined the real reason for The Spanish-American War, if you can’t understand, that’s your problem.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  207. @annamaria

    Oh no, I would NEVER boycott “israel” … it’s just that Danone yogurt sticks in my craw.

  208. L.K says:
    @Daniel Rich

    That’s assuming Germany is run by Germans [and ignore the star spangled Overlord behind the curtain].

    A lot of the fools commenting here assume exactly that.

    In reality Germany lost her sovereignty at the end of WW2, never to recover it.

    The mutilated country was divided into West Germany, a US client, and East Germany, a Soviet satellite.

    Since the American Empire won the Cold War, Germany was reunified under US hegemony.

    It remains largely under US control.

    Former commander of West Germany’s military intel, General Gerd-Helmut Komossa, detailed the terrible situation in his book “Die deutsche Karte: Das verdeckte Spiel der geheimen Dienste.”

    Unsurprisingly the book has never been made available in English.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  209. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:

    Concentration camps to kill people? That’s always struck me as a lot of wasted effort. There are simpler ways.

  210. L.K says:

    Hello, Fox.

    “Cyrano” ain’t interested in any facts, it is a TROLL.

    This disgusting vermin, who claims to be a Serb, hates Germans with a passion. He made many jokes, which are ON RECORD here at UNZ, about how great it was that the Red Army mass raped – and oftentimes murdered – German women.
    The “jokes” were shared with another deranged individual, a certain FB, described by Ron Unz himself as a “complete lunatic”. Both had a good laugh.
    “Cyrano” suggested to his buddy the Soviets were too good, should not have just raped and murdered, but exterminated all Germans.
    Just so you know what kind of trash you are trying to engage with logic and arguments.

    • Replies: @Fox
    , @NoJewsKnowPeace
  211. Fox says:

    I wonder how clearly you are capable of thinking through something.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  212. @Badger Down

    Sure Jews don’t run anything, they don’t even run Palestine, it’s run by Palestinians, we anti-semites must be living in a parallel virtual world of our own prejudicial and hateful making.

  213. @Stan d Mute

    Who really won the Cold War?

    (((They))) did.

    • Replies: @John Fisher
  214. Anonymice says:

    One can only imagine the outcry from liberal NGOs if Iran, China or Russia imprisoned an elderly woman just for questioning the government’s line.

    America and Western Europe are pandering to Jewish lies and punishing their own citizens for challenging official narratives. No other ethnic group enjoys such unearned privileges of undermining constitutional guarantees of freedom of expression. Haverback has earned the admiration of all people who loathe blatant injustice. She is a towering figure of pure courage.

  215. @aspnaz

    I have the same question about Schwab as I have about Soros: Why is the bastard still above ground and breathing?

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  216. Fox says:

    Thanks, I will take this into account. I didn’t know that he went to the lunatic lengths you describe.

  217. @L.K

    A Jew who is happy when Christian women are raped? Shocker.

  218. Cyrano says:

    Look, I was just trying to point out that as a result of their misadventure in Russia, the Germans ended up with Germany which covers only 350 000 square kilometers, instead of 500 000+ square kilometers that they had prior to the Nazi insanity.

    But, to their credit, the Germans found out that you can be much happier when you snuggle up in a 350 000 sq km country with someone that you love (8 million Turks) then if you had to share 500 000 sq km with half a million Jews that you don’t really care about.

    You understand what I’m saying? You’re better off with a much larger minority in a smaller country then with a smaller minority in a larger one. Germans are not stupid, they know their math.

  219. GeeBee says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    Calgary! Ye gods. I can fully understand how you have become such a hate-sodden misanthrope, flinging your toxic insults right and left at all who displease you: ‘right-wing dolts and progressive dunces’. How few there must be in the great world outside of Calgary who can measure up to your own sanctified levels of worldly experience and philosophical expertise.

    All is explained.

  220. @Bombercommand

    No doubt the Philippines had some nice lumber in the offing. But maybe you are on to something. How about a short reading list to back it up?

    p.s. Free Ursula, Down with Pax Judaica, End Judeo lese Majeste…

    Video Link

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
  221. Vaterland says:

    I just wanted to let you know again, that I highly appreciate your efforts to speak truth to lies. Consistently, persistently, eloquently and well informed. You are a beacon of light in an ocean of nonsense, pathological liars, shills and cranks.

    Here is also a suggestion for Ron Unz how to regain my trust after reprinting those abominable David Boehm articles: cover Ursula Haverbecks legal costs and defend her publicly. It’s time for everyone to take a side. I have chosen mine.

    • Replies: @L.K
  222. So what did it take them, two generations?

  223. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    You need to get behind the official diction and narrative…

    Laws are made by legislatures. There’s no limit to what they can concoct.

    These “laws” have been builtin the FRG, this US administrative occupation since 1948, this corporate criminal entity called FRG(BRD) without territory, people and legitimacy. A “basic law” is meant to keep the public peace in a militarily occupied area.
    Officially, the US liberated us, and gave us the rule of law, democracy and all the good stuff. Soviets did the same, their share was called “democratic Republic”.
    It was the Americans together with their Soviet allies who carved in stone the future lies and narrative with Potsdam agreement and Nuremberg kangaroo court, that crumble before our eyes.

    Simply said, the US and allies liberated us from our liberty and dignity, and now the US earn the fruits of their Jew labor with homo marriage, invasion of foreigners, destruction of family, degeneracy.

  224. Anne Lid says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Do not mistake loyalty and adherence to truth for today’s abominable victim culture. You think Mrs. Haverbeck’s mind was clouded that she did not believe she can be harmed for stating truth? (At least what she is believes to be truth.) She knew it, but there are more important things than temporary comfort. Do not be afraid of those, dear FNT, who can kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

    • Thanks: Ugetit
  225. Ugetit says:

    The point is if they can be so deranged to attack someone who is 44 times bigger than them…

    So by that “reasoning,” whenever some 440 kg Schlimo decides to stick it’s mutilated schwantz into some little kid, the kid’s advised to drop his drawers and spread his cheeks?

    You first.

    Some would rather die standing on their feet than live crawling on their knees, a concept that’s apparently forever foreign to the brainless and soulless.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  226. Ugetit says:

    I have the same question about Schwab as I have about Soros: Why is the bastard still above ground and breathing?

    For the same reason that a pile of pig shit can befoul a perfectly fine countryside for tens of miles around.

  227. @bike-anarkist

    So has Italy, but it shows much greater independence.

  228. Ugetit says:

    The Spanish American War of 1898 was to…yap, yap yap…

    Where did you get such a bizarre collection of bullshit? Not one point is anywhere close to the truth.

    That war was due to American aggression from the get go.

    Here, do yourself a favor ant try to learn something.

    Therefore, in this campaign the question is larger than a party question. It is an American question. It is a world question. Shall the American people continue their resistless march toward the commercial supremacy of the world?

    -ALBERT J. BEVERIDGE, “MARCH OF THE FLAG” (16 September 1898)

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  229. @Wizard of Oz

    Wiz, I know that Deutsche Bank is privately owned, not state-owned. But the consideration is this.
    Economic depression leads to collapse of the derivatives’ market.
    DB agrees to write down its exposure. I’m going to be charitable here. Let’s say it is 1o cents in the euro. Instead of 50 or 60 trillion euros, it would be 5 or 6 trillion euros. However, DB is unable to pay more than a tiny fraction of this. It goes cap in hand to the German Government who agree to bail out DB. However, a debt of 5 or 6 trillion euros would sink the German economy – and its neighbours – especially one already in serious recession.
    Alternatively, the German Government refuses, and DB defaults. Nearly all the other big banks involved in the derivatives’ scam would default, too, as DB wasn’t covering their losses. Financial capitalism would more or less collapse, and economic depression would deepen. Of course, the rest of them would blame the Germans.
    This is a lose-lose situation for Germany.
    For older readers: think of the Creditanstalt collapse of 11 May 1931, which precipitated the Great Depression.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  230. chuckywiz says:

    It is not a question of Holocaust denying or accepting the full narrative. What is wrong with asking questions and finding out what exactly went on verses what we were fed via Hollywood and by the rest of the media. Promotors of Holocaust never directly addressed the questions raised by the “Deniers”. Instead they hire writers to write using distraction and confusing passages and phrases. I remember once reading in Washington Compost or may be in Newsweek a line written by self icon…ed George Will about Ronald Reagan that “He had blue anger in his eyes” what a BS.

    Please read comment # 180, 183 185 and more
    and for truth sake (if you believe in this word) write something if such questions are BS or if you agree with some or all of the questions.
    My favorite question is what happened to the great peace promoter and Nobel Peace winner Elie Wiesel’s Auschwitz tattoos. I could not find the answer yet. This was the guy who put a full page ad in NY times to bomb Iran. It was interesting to read how Bernie Madoff swindled him and his associate Spielberg millions of dollars. A Talmudist cheating another Talmudist. Like they say “Diamond cuts diamond”

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  231. chuckywiz says:

    Thanks for sharing the links

  232. My first exposure to the intellect and spirit of Ursula Haverbeck was in the 2015 “The Panorama Interview with Ursula Haverbeck,” which was originally published in “The National Vanguard,” but recently removed for violating YouTube’s Terms of Service.

    That video is not available on Bitchute:

    A truly remarkable and glorious woman, indeed.

  233. Handydan says:

    I tried to find contact information in German prison of this lady but was disappointed.

    Anyone knows how to find her prison information in Germany?

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  234. anastasia says:

    They’re going to keep her in jail until she learns to “keep her mouth shut”.

    That is one sicko nation.

  235. @mocissepvis

    Highly recommended: Far and Wide by Douglas Reed (who also wrote The Controversy of Zion, which is also highly recommended).

    Look especially in Part II of Far and Wide “Behind the Scenes” for an answer to the question regarding who won the Civil War.

    I remember once hearing that the publisher of Far and Wide was put out of business. Someone may be able to confirm or correct this.

    A firm grasp of current realities is certainly enhanced by reading these two books.

  236. @Verymuchalive

    Interesting but I wonder whether you have correctly assessed the workings of the derivatives market where the traders (and hedgers) are [email protected] engaged in something close to zero sum game where difficulties can occur where a counterparty fails – e.g. if ti sells too many Put options which it can’t afford to honour when exercised. That’s when you find central banks bailing them out by providing liquidity as the Fed did even for foreign banks like Deutsche and Barclay’s during the GFC. I would need to be persuaded that it would be a disaster.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  237. @Wizard of Oz

    Western Central Banks, the US Federal Reserve in particular, have been “providing liquidity” ( printing money way, way in excess of the actual growth – or not- of the economy ) for decades now, especially since 2008.
    We know what happens with fiat currencies, it’s just a question of time. In the West’s case that time is likely to be short, perhaps very short. It will be interesting to see who gets on the lifeboats after the shipwreck. I surmise it will be the usual suspects -they always do.
    Anyway, I hope you’re not too locked down in Oz. It’s not too bad here in North Britain – the pubs are shut, and you have to wear masks on public transport, but otherwise business as usual.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  238. Skeptikal says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Has Haverbeck actually claimed this?

    Not sure, but when a law is immoral, then it is, ipso facto, a license to victimize.

  239. Skeptikal says:

    IMO the problems with many “Holohoax” type commenters here, only part of which is their fault, is that they do not distinguish between Holocaust revisionism and Holocaust denial.

    The dice are loaded, however, by the framing imposed on the IMO legitimate revisionist debate by the term “Holocaust.” There are so many premises wrapped up in that word and its ever-accreting baggage that it is impossible to have a genuine historical discussion/debate as long as that word is used. For genuine historians the Holocaust ballast grows faster than they can unload it.

    I have recently learned that *another* Holocaust-themed museum is being planned for Berlin, on “the Exile Experience.” AFAIK it will focus on the experiences only of Jews—not on the many Germans, not to speak of many others, who have faced exile. And there will probably be a liberal helping of “second-generation exile.” We shall see.

  240. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:

    I still believe . I have met a few . Do I believe everything about it- how was done and how many were killed- no I don’t .
    Bad part –
    A publisher is not a Kinkos. Penguin Random House rejects far more books than it accepts, and it does not treat all points of view equally. It does not publish works of Holocaust denial or phrenology.—–

  241. @Bombercommand

    It’s always hard to tell if somebody like you is simply lying, or just ignorant, or is suffering from some kind of delusion. You stated that “The Phillipines was never held as a colony by The United States”.
    This statement is simply false.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  242. @Cyrano

    Man, you move those goal-posts around like a master of the old shell-game. You make an absolutely unsupportable claim that the Nazis were out to conquer the world, and when challenged, you ignore your absurd claim and commence to babbling about the size of the land-masses involved. The derp is strong in you!

  243. @Cyrano

    That’s because the UN does not acknowledge the array of genocides conducted by the European and US empires, which would certainly measure up to anything laid at the feet of the Turks or the Nazis.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  244. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, this is terrible – but not hard to understand.

    The 6 Million Gassed Jews Holocaust religious myth – has become a/THE fundamentalist religious myth in Germany and other parts of what was once the White Christian West. This fundamentalist religious myth functions the same as other highly ethnocentric religious myths from the Jewish Old Testament like Moses parting the Red Sea in the Book of Exodus.

    From an honest, scientifically supported historically neutral perspective the “Moses Parted the Red Sea” religion myth is impossible. Why didn’t the Jewish Israelites have any problems with mud when the fled across the bottom of the Red Sea? Why didn’t any historians – Egyptians/Greeks right about this incredible even where the Red Sea was parted, Jews (God’s Chosen people) fled across the bottom of the Red Sea and the Egyptians (Definitely not God’s Chosen People) were all drowned. Wouldn’t Egyptians of the time write something about all their leaders getting drowned?

    But the 6 Million Gassed Jews Holocaust Myth is supposed all 100% true because, well….


    And anybody who says, writes or even thinks any small minute part of this Official Holocaust Myth is


    And these modern religious heretics are persecuted the same as religious heretics in the Middle Ages or someone who is outspokenly anti Islam in say Saudi Arabi or Pakistan or soon Londonstan.

    Yep. that’s the way it works and it’s worked very well for the nation of Zion and their slaves.

    • Agree: MrVoid
  245. @Verymuchalive

    I live in our second most populous state and the only one where the state government so mishandled both testing and hotel quarantine for travellers that we had to have a second more stringent lockdown and accounted for many times the cases and deaths compared with all other states and territories. But I haven’t been very inconvenienced and our state’s 6 million people have now had not a single knew case for over a month.

    As to the banks I haven’t been happy that anyone who mattered knew what they were doing s ince our interest rates were first outrageously low early last year. Inflation will no doubt be locked up safely in asset bubbles for quite a while but it is very difficult to see the potential for monetary disaster being wound down safely forever.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  246. chuckywiz says:

    Thank you for a refreshing perspective. It would be so great to have objective and curious debate to lift the curtain from the mysteries of Holocaust without being called Anti Semite.
    Some of the Israelis scholars and historians had been putting so much efforts to no vail. We in the West hardly hear their names. I used to think that every Israeli is obsessed with Holocaust but it all changed when I visited Israel and spent sometime with some locals. Found Israeli newspapers are more objective about their country than NYTimes and Washington Compost and likes.

  247. Vaterland says:

    You could write to Der Volkslehrer, he might have them. Here is his telegram: And email address: [email protected].

    ‎But as far as I know she is kept in isolation prison and can receive no mail. And if she does, you can expect it to be screened. And if you write a no-no to her about the Holocaust and you live in a country which has the secular Noahide Laws of holocaust denial, then you will go to jail. But you should ask Nikolai Nerling about the details.

    And Ursula is far from the only political prisoner in our occupied Jewish-American dictatorship ruled by Janissaries and traitors.

    • Replies: @Handydan
  248. Vaterland says:

    Make no mistake, if the Jewish power continues to increase here in the U.S. we will all be in her shoes.

    James Fields already is. And he didn’t have a wonderful, fulfilled life like Ursula.

  249. @Mefobills

    You made a false statement, then lied about making it. And your response to being caught lying? Make the ridiculous assertion that I’m Hasbara. Pathetic. How’s the weather in muppetville?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  250. Vaterland says:

    No, comments like yours and the total retard you replied to tells you all about the total ignorance and retardation of the majority of the Unz commentariat, that merry collection of random cranks. The problem with extreme stupidity is of course that even starting to educate you would take significantly more effort than the literary excrement you typed, possibly in-between two beers and on your toilet.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  251. @Georgia

    Well, no. Look at voter support for Alternative for Germany in the Bundeslaender (states) of the former East Germany compared to AfD support in West Germany.

  252. Cyrano says:

    You missed one key point partner – the midget was the bully, not the giant. The fact that it got its cheeks spread at the end – is because he damn well deserved it. And the Nazi swine where no Che Guevaras – no matter how hard they tried to pretend to be “socialists”.

  253. Art says:
    @A Competent Physicist

    I disagree with her and I’m offended by her but sending her to prison is EVIL.

    A lot of very very bad things are being done all over the world, in the name of the holocaust.

    You Jews have used the “holocaust” to enrich yourselves. You have squandered the genuine good will of humanity.

    Now we are insulted when you shovel the guilt of the “holocaust” on us.

    The push back is building – Wake up!

    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
  254. Handydan says:

    I thank you for your kind response.
    I would love to drop her a note for her courage

    Hope others truth seekers will take a few minutes to let her know

  255. @Art

    You disagree with Ms. Haverbeck’s personal observations despite probably not haven been born yet? OK.

  256. @Ugetit

    Sloganeering is one of the more goofy informal fallacies. Every point in my comment is consonant with historical fact. You must familiarize yourself with Emperor Mutsuhito’s foreign policy actions before we can have a discussion, at this point you are well out of your depth. As events unfolded, The Empire of Japan did invade The Phillipines, and from bases in Formosa, so it is beyond me why you cannot understand my thesis.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  257. Derer says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    You have obvious gaps in geopolitics. For your information Poland is in the Zionist controlled block which include Israel, USA, Germany, France, Anglo group, Ukraine. I am talking about Zionist controlled ruling clique and not the suppressed position of the populace.

  258. anarchyst says:
    @A Competent Physicist

    …typical jewish attitude. TRUTH is never a part of the jewish psyche, hence the need to incarcerate and torture a truth-teller like Ursula Haverbeck. If the TRUTH were out, the jewish holocaust™ would be consigned to the trash heap of history while its promoters would be imprisoned for fraud.
    From time immemorial, jews have always considered slavery, genocide, jew supremacy and outright societal destruction as a part of their normal behavior.
    “Getting one over” on gentiles, usury and absolution for their own shortcomings and outright criminal behavior is ensconced in their “kol nidre” prayer which absolves them from being brought to justice for their outright criminal behavior.
    I chuckle and cheer when I hear of jews getting “madoffed”…serves ’em right.

    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
  259. @The Real World

    Generally speaking, the rules for federal elections are under the rules set by the federal laws. It is the Feds who run those elections. If not the same as federal rules, the rules are very similar for provincial elections, to those of federal elections. The election day, province to province, is rarely, if ever, the same. A government losing a non-confidence vote triggers an election. Failing to pass its budget is seen as a non confidence vote. The city/municipal election laws and regulations entirely within the hands of each province. We have several days of advance, in person, voting, within each district. Those ballots boxes are sealed under observation, and held in the district office until election day. They are counted at the same time as the ballots cast on election day. If memory serves me correctly, absentee ballots are reserved for people out of the country, or people employed in a government capacity (including military) which would prevent them from voting in person.

    It is difficult to compare systems. For federal and provincial elections we only vote for our representative. The party winning the most seats is invited, by the head of state’s representative, the Governor General, to form government. Trudeau, as leader of the Party with the most seats in Parliament was elected Prime Minister by Parliament, not the citizens directly. The same happens at the provincial level. The head of state has no role in forming policy or debating legislation and no veto power, but can delay, almost indefinitely, signing legislation into law. The can, however, require that he/she be consulted on those matters. The head of state is supposed to be politically neutral, and with few exceptions, has been.
    We do, however suffer the same as the US by having a “professional politician class” whose sole aim is to fatten their own bank accounts. Perhaps not to as great an extent, but far too many.

  260. @Wizard of Oz

    I’m glad you’ve not been inconvenienced, unlike some Melbournites ( is that the technical term ?) we’ve been hearing about.

    Inflation will no doubt be locked up safely in asset bubbles for quite a while but it is very difficult to see the potential for monetary disaster being wound down safely forever.

    There are lots of precipitants which might cause aforesaid monetary disaster, many very obvious. War with Iran: Saudi Arabia dumping the dollar: Japan or China dumping US Treasury Bonds, the list is endless. Of course, it may be caused by something obscure, which few people know about or understand. Such is life.

  261. @Bombercommand

    There is no argument. You made a false statement, whether that action arose from ignorance, delusion, dishonesty or some combination of the three, and you lack the integrity to account for yourself. Sad.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  262. @thotmonger

    That thesis is unique to myself, you won’t find it in the dullwitted histories available to us peasants, and the leadership of The United States would never tip off the Japanese to our strategem regarding The Phillipines and Hawaii. Read up on the forgein policy actions of Emperor Mutsuhito, it is fascinating and simply not discussed today. What you will notice is The Empire of Japan was initially on a “Southward Strategy”, and following The Spanish American War switched to the “Northward Strategy”. This switch is inexplicable as the goal of the “Southward Strategy” was to make The First Island Chain entirely Japanese territory, isolating China for a later kill, and The Phillipines was the richest prize in The First Island Chain, so why give up when Japan was nearly at the goal, and with the richest prize within grasp? The answer is Japan was strong enough to challenge a very weak Spain, but not strong enough, yet, to challenge The United States.

  263. @Bombercommand

    Every point in your comment is not consant with historical fact. You said that the Phillipines was never held as an American colony. It was. Your point is very much disconsonant with historical fact.
    “The United States exercised formal colonial rule over the Philippines, its largest overseas colony, between 1899 and 1946.”
    “Even as the fighting went on, the colonial government that the United States established in the Philippines in 1900 under future President William Howard Taft launched a pacification campaign that became known as the “policy of attraction.” ”

    So, are you off your meds, or just a compulsive liar or an just an ignoramous?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  264. 36 ulster says:

    I wouldn’t be so complacent if I were you. You might not be incarcerated but we are experiencing a social credit system that has no central source and punishes people at random. Moreover, no “brownie points” are awarded for good behavior. Gregory Hood recently published an essay on this site comparing–unfavorably–The U.S.’s ad hoc, privatized social credit system to China’s.

  265. While hanging out with my uncle (a WW2 US Army Airborne veteran, who was there) one afternoon in the 70s. We stopped at our social club to have lunch and visit. On the television someone was talking about the holocaust, gas chambers and the Jews. My uncle made a derogatory remark towards the Jews, that made me sit up straight, and ask him why he felt like that. His answer qas short. “It didn’t happen, I was there”. His remark led me to investigate his odd claim. And after some years i found he was right. RIP Gaetano Vona

    • Thanks: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @erzberger
  266. @Vaterland

    Given your incontinent reply, it is you who has the alcohol problem. As the man said, don’t comment under the influence ( CUI ). It just makes you stupid.

  267. L.K says:

    The Turk’s were imported as labor. After WW2, the Nazi debts were erased by the Americans, which caused the German “economic miracle.”

    During the 1960’s Germany’s finance capitalists wanted low wage labor to fuel their export industry.

    They imported Turks.

    Not SO FAST!

    You are generally good when dealing with economic issues, but no so great when touching on certain historical matters…
    Listen, re Turkish guest workers the situation was much more complicated than the notion you advanced and even Wikipedia has some information on it:

    During the 1950s and 1960s, West Germany signed bilateral recruitment agreements with a number of countries…

    There were several justifications for these arrangements. Firstly, during the 1950s, Germany experienced a so-called Wirtschaftswunder or “economic miracle” and needed laborers.[7] The labour shortage was made more acute after the building of the Berlin Wall in August 1961, which drastically reduced the large-scale flow of East German workers. Secondly, West Germany justified these programs as a form of developmental aid. …

    The first guest workers were recruited from European nations. However, Turkey pressured West Germany to admit its citizens as guest workers.[3] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, opposed such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too large and also held the opinion that Germany didn’t need any more laborers because there were enough unemployed people living in the poorer regions of Germany who could fill these vacancies. The United States, however, put some political pressure on Germany, wanting to stabilize and create goodwill from a potential ally. West Germany and Turkey reached an agreement in 1961.[8]

    The political pressure by the USA in this connection was not “some”, but quite strong.

    The US did this in order to strengthen Turkey and its relationship with it in the context of its Cold War with the Soviet led bloc. Once again, the US screwed Germany.

    One of the best books on the subject is “Diplomatische Tauschgeschäfte. “Gastarbeiter” in der westdeutschen Diplomatie und Beschäftigungspolitik 1953-1973″ by German historian Heike Knortz, unavailable in English. Some of it can be read freely at:

    • Thanks: Mefobills
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  268. L.K says:

    Thanks for the flowers, my friend.

    Good to see you around, once more.

  269. Mefobills says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    Damn your obstinate, or stupid.

    Here it is again. Read it closely:

    The America’s were always a battle between Malthusian’s and agents of mammon, against those who wanted to use state credit and lift all boats.

    The America’s were a battle between the Malthusians from London (Malthus was English) and this occurred BEFORE THE U.S. BECAME A COUNTRY.

    This was the whole point of my countering your obvious B.S.

    I didn’t make a false statement, you just don’t have the mental digits. You don’t know things and make false statements, and when corrected you try to worm out of it by using ad-hominems.

    Even if you are not jewish, you have a jewish spirit..

    • Agree: GeeBee
    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @John Fisher
  270. Logistics says:

    Six million bodies; average weight 100 pounds; 600,000,000 pounds of human flesh…75% water equals 450,000,000 pounds of water…Eight pounds to a gallon..= 56,000,000 gallons of water…How many BTU’s is required to evaporate one gallon of water?

  271. @Rufus Clyde

    A colony is held indefinitely. The Phillipines was scheduled for independence in 1944. That date would have to have been set shortly after defeat of Spain since 40 years is not much time to organize a national army and national government in a place as retrograde as The Phillipines where it would take 20 years to establish basic literacy and and an educated class capable of operating 20th century institutions. The Phillipines achieved independence at the earliest date possible through American organization. The United States planned for Phillipine independence from day one. Spain intended never to give up colonial rule of The Phillipines.

    • Replies: @NobodyKnowsImADog
  272. @L.K

    Actually, the West German Government recruited guest workers from Portugal, Italy and Greece initially. The Portuguese preferred France, but there are still large numbers of German-Italians and German-Greeks.
    The Iron Curtain was a disaster for western as well as eastern Europe. Without it, US Governments would not be able to coerce European Governments to take decisions against their own best interests.
    Despite what some columnists say at UR, the Kennedy Government was no friend of white Europeans.

  273. When someone gets convicted for something like this, it makes me feel like she is probably telling the truth and the powers that be do not want the word to get out.

  274. M.a.H says:

    Does anyone know how to send her a gift?

  275. Ace says:
    @A Competent Physicist

    Is there ANYTHING about the Jewish version of the holocaust that you think is inaccurate or dishonest?

    Are Jews in charge of what is accurate history and what is inaccurate history?

    If I say that I think Israel was founded on deception, terror, and military force and that Palestinians have a right to be furious at being dispossessed does that mean I wish for any and all Jews everywhere in the world to be rounded up and exterminated or that my only purpose is to encourage non-Jews to hate Jews in Nebraska, Ecuador, Iceland, Finland, and elsewhere in the world?

    At any rate, bravo for your principled stand on Frau Haverbeck’s imprisonment.

  276. @L.K

    When one travels around the globe and actually enters foreign countries, interacts with [ordinary] local people there, and sees what is really going on in other parts of the world, one tends to have a different opinion about MSM powered reality.

    However, no matter how one perceives oneself to be well-informed, one should always keep an open mind at the fore front, so the rain of alternate info finds a direly needed shelter as well.

    “Die deutsche Karte: Das verdeckte Spiel der geheimen Dienste.” – Unsurprisingly the book has never been made available in English.

    Most of the truth is hidden in caves, without dancing shadows that is…

    Yes, a bit cryptic, but you know what I mean :o]

  277. This is why the Bolsheviks didn’t want to try and imprison the Tsar and his family. The optics would have been terrible. At least they can’t machine gun their enemies in a basement anymore… not at present, anyway! The optics would still be terrible, but the embarrassing problem would be gone.

    The best thing George RR Martin gave us were these words from Tyrion Lannister:
    “You don’t prove a man a liar by tearing out his tongue. you only prove that you fear what he has to say.”

    • Agree: dogbumbreath
  278. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    this is an interesting topic in alternate history.

    Rufus Clyde’s (RC) argument seems to me a deal weaker than bombercommands’s (BC). RC’s argument only makes sense if the US was the sole actor in the Pacific, and that the Japanese Empire was of no importance to US interests. Had Japan been able to rule Indonesia and Hawaii without having to engage the US, it would have been pretty much unstoppable when it took over the oil rigs in SE Asia, and would have been in a good position to simply buy iron ore from Australia. Hard to say whether Japan could have kept what it conquered, as it would have had insufficient manpower, rather like a boa constrictor that killed an elephant, but the US would have been in no position to declare war on Japan. The naval yards FDR established would have produced a defensive force, probably one never to be engaged.

    Geopolitics, the sort of thing Mahn wrote of, was of considerable interest back in the 1900s. It’s when Kipling wrote of the Great Game. It isn’t beyond belief that the US was considering geopolitics back then, and even taking action based upon geostrategy.

    As for taking Indonesia and then planning to leave it in 1944, remember that the US had done something very similar after the Mexican-American war. It gave the part of Mexico that was medium to heavily populated with Mexicans back to Mexico, and then after the Civil War helped Mexico expel the French. The US kept the part of pre-Mexican-American war that Mexico had only populated lightly. A US that could follow such a policy would have had an active fear of annexing Indonesia. Back then the US had some idea of what it could and could not do without destroying itself. So, if “colony” means “a group of people who leave their native country to form in a new land a settlement subject to, or connected with, the parent nation. the country or district settled or colonized ” then Indonesia was not a colony.

    None of which prevented the contemporaneous popular debate over whether the US should become an Imperial Power.

  279. @anarchyst

    This abuse of basic human rights and jurisprudence must be exposed for what it is…

    I couldn’t agree more…

    However, besides exposing it, these f/acts need to be fully and completely eradicated.

    But, commoners like you and I will never be able to pull it off.


    Because in order to get to the top, we’ll have no choice but to become as morally tainted as the corrupt politicians we’re facing today [and tomorrow and so on and so forth] as well.

    The only option I see is to go as local as possible. To deal with people you can visit and talk to.

    Not a guarantee to be perfect, but at least it becomes more personal.

  280. @Anonymous

    Your comments are consistantly amoung the very best on the Unz Website. Maybe you should drop the anonymous handle and just start calling yourself Mr. 290.

    The argument between Rufus Clyde and Bomber Commander was actually about the Phillipines rather than Indonesia being treated as a colony, but other than that, your analysis is the best.

    While some of these arguments are sometimes interesting, I do think that people should not take a comment string off on a tangent.

  281. @Anonymous

    Thanks for bringing up the strategic neccesity of Hawaii, a point I failed to develop sufficiently. The reality is that without Pearl Harbor, The United States would have been unable to confront Japan in the Western Pacific, trying to support a naval task force from San Francisco would have been impossible. It was a close thing. Japan absolutely intended to invade Hawaii, they even got as far as sending a warship to Pearl Harbor, but just didn’t have the naval muscle to take Hawaii in the 1890’s. By 1905 they did, but it was too late, The United States got there first. One small error in your comment: should be The Phillipines, not Indonesia. But that did jog my brain, I had forgotten about The Dutch East Indies. Had Japan attacked Spain in 1899, using Formosa(seized from China in 1895) as a base, they most certainly would have seized The Phillipines, Spain was very weak. The next weakest country after Spain was The Netherlands, which held the lush prize of The Dutch East Indies, AKA Indonesia. Japan sank the entire Russian Navy in 1905, so they could have quickly trashed The Netherlands and seized Indonesia in 1905. At that point The Empire of Japan would have achieved geopolitical gold, they would have held Okinawa and The Ryukyu Islands, Formosa, The Phillipines, and Indonesia including Borneo and the Greater Sundas: a long barrier wall of island groups cutting straight across the Western Pacific from north to south. Feeding off the vast resources of its new possessions and holding the strongest territorial hand in The Pacific of any nation, The Empire of Japan would have been unchallengeable, particularly after Europe exhausted itself in the idiocy of 1914. All of that was foiled by The United States initiating The Spanish American War, which forced Japan to abandon its “Southward Strategy” and turn its attention to Korea and The Russian Empire’s Far East Possessions(the “Northward Strategy”) leading to an invasion of Manchuria and a premature entanglement of Japan in the tarbaby of China, which soaked up men and materiel needed to secure The Western Pacific.

  282. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Real World

    People need to realize that the voting flipping software that was, apparently, used at large scale in the recent US election is not new!

    This is the most important consequence of the stolen 2020 Federal elections. Those who wish to discredit any US governmental body, past, present, or future need only say that it came to power by fraud. With the stolen 2020 elections, who is to deny that claim, and why should such a denial be believed?

    Loss of legitimacy is the most important consequence of the stolen 2020 Federal elections, and the loss goes both forward and backward in time.
    * How long has it been since a majority of white men voted to elect a Democratic President?
    * Were these Presidential elections stolen also?
    These questions are not asked when government is legitimate. Once these questions are asked, they cannot be answered. Without legitimacy, a government’s forces (armed, civil) control only the ground they stand on, and its bureaucrats control only what its forces control. “Government we believe it” is not a luxury for Western governments. It is a necessity.

    Which is why the 2020 Federal election theft had best be reversed by some thorough means. No reversal, no government for perhaps 3 generations.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  283. Wally says:

    Pleased to share it with you.

    The article above has been posted at CODOH for discussion:

    Unz Review: German Dissident Ursula Haverbeck Sent Back to Prison; May Be World’s Oldest Female Inmate / by Eric Striker:

  284. TRN says:

    Germany is a pseudo-democracy where you are told what to think and critical thinking is not appreciated. With GroKo being a replica of the GDR SED Party it is a country where Merkel meets the Gauleiter in the largest government building on earth – a Chancellery 8-times the size of the White House and by-passes Parliament

    There are people who think the earth is flat and some who do not comprehend what went on at Auschwitz or Treblinka but if you have seen the construction plans you know what was intended

    There are lunatic Communists too who deny what went on in Bautzen so a few dotty Nazis is hardly unusual. Prison seems a poor place to keep them unless they committed physical crimes

    Germany “warehouses” problems it does not wish to face up to – it is after all a bureaucratized state without any cultural basis – a sort of US consumerist Neo-Pagan Party Dictatorship herding sheep into thought pens

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @HeebHunter
  285. @Kolya Krassotkin

    There’s no god. The fact the poor old bird is locked up proves this.

  286. Wally says:

    Readers see arch Zionist ‘Lot’ taken behind the wood shed here, scroll down a couple:

    And I see Lot posted a picture from the Nuremberg Show trials. So thanks to Lot for the opening.
    Nuremberg – Fair Trial or Show Trial ?:
    – At Nuremberg it was accepted that Jews were mass murdered in steam chambers.
    – At Nuremberg it was accepted that the Germans used atomic bombs on Jews.
    – Typical Nuremberg ‘documents were English translations of Russian translations of Polish copies of alleged German originals which do not exist.

    • Replies: @Handydan
  287. GeeBee says:

    Even if you are not jewish, you have a jewish spirit..

    Or as a former fellow Mod on a now de-platformed site, for which I used to write regularly, would put it: ‘typical Talmudic hair-splitting bullshit’. It’s this perpetual hair-splitting that they are taught to use in order to gaslight and confuse. It takes a cool, sound intellect to rebuff it. I need scarcely add that you are more than up to the challenge set by these gaslighters and baiters.

    He says he lives at Calgary. That doesn’t stop him from being a hasbara troll.

    • Thanks: Mefobills, Lurker
    • Replies: @John Fisher
  288. I admire this woman, she is a Lady. She will not betray her conviction. She should be an example for all the Young people. God bless her !

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  289. JamesinNM says:
    @Chris Moore

    Agree. All evil will suffer the second death at the final judgement. Be wise as you choose between heaven and hell.

  290. Handydan says:

    Murdered in steam chambers? that is a new one. How the steam was generated? where are the boilers and auxiliary equipment such as pumps, water treatment facility, utility like fuel and water storage, the list goes on. I did find any remains of such equipment when I visited Auschwitz.
    You added interesting points that begs disseminating to public as well as cool “aid drinkers”. I would search the sources provided if available on the internet and not purged by Talmudists.

    Is there any URL for these Nuremberg findings?
    A while back I saw this on Zerohedge

    Talmud: Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

    URL helped

  291. Handydan says:
    @A Competent Physicist

    Are you a semite or European Jew? Khazar Jew

    You have every right to be offensive if the Holocaust is “denied” based on smears and racism.

    I believe there was mass killings of humans, Jews, Catholics, Gypsies and anyone who opposed the govt. But not the way they show in Hollywood movies.

    I would like to hear your take on controversy on killing by carbon monoxide, poison gas, steam or burning in open pits, ovens, furnaces. Where are the storage for fuels, bones if the victims were buried. Gas chambers door locked from inside?? These were mentioned is several books written by the Holocaust survivors and during interviews. You got the idea.

    I am with you that if such debates could be carried out with proof and rationality.
    What do you say?

  292. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Even if the holocaust were real, the mistreatment if this honorable senior citizen shows that jew are the most vindictive species walking the earth. I do not think the tribe is human.

  293. Skeptikal says:

    ” it is after all a bureaucratized state without any cultural basis ”

    What does this mean?

    That the bureaucratized state has no cultural basis, or that the state itself has no cultural basis?

    It seems to me that both the German bureaucracy and the state itself have a strong cultural basis, but I probably understand those terms differently from you.

  294. @Verymuchalive

    Nothing is left of Germany except for a hollow shell that will sooner or later collapse under the Afrabian onslaught in combination with French and Belgian appetite for destruction and the abysmal educational level of its youth.

  295. @Bardon Kaldian

    They’re so brainwashed with their propaganda and so secure in their cushy jobs and three hour lunches stuffing their faces with Bratwurst and Sauerbraten they don’t even think, they just do what the rule book says. The German occupational government (GOG) has made sure that only the most unquestioning moronic unprincipled people get into jobs such as judges. In addition, as a further form of “insurance” that these creatures do their job without question, the German Secret Police probably has a dossier on each of these “judges” that could put them in jail for life.

  296. Marcali says:

    Why did you kill nazis? To make the world safe for Stalin and Mao and communists in general to do away with 148 million people world wide?

  297. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Timur The Lame

    This misses the point. ‘Holocaust Remembrance’ is a form of worship for the Jewish religion. The Jewish religion has always been about worshipping their own race, and the Holocaust is a mythos that allows them to elevate their suffering as a divine experience. Their entire religion centers around their divine suffering, since the very beginning in the story of the Exodus (another fake story of Jewish persecution).

    It would be like if you told a Christian ‘Good news, Jesus wasn’t tortured on the cross so you should be happy your savior didn’t suffer like that.’ A Christian would not be happy about this and consider this sacrilege.

    The Holocaust is a state-enforced and state-sanctioned religion. You are allowed to do hate speech against the Islamic prophets. You are allowed to do hate speech against Jesus. But you are thrown in jail in Germany for not believing the Jewish religious myth of the Holocaust.

  298. EugeneGur says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    There’s no difference whatsoever, in scope or morality, between what the Germans allegedly did to the Jews and what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians. None.

    You are right at that.

    There is nothing “alleged” about the extermination of Jews during the war, though Most of the Holocaust happened not in Auschwitz but on the occupied territories of the Soviet Union. For goodness’ sake, Hitler even issued the orders – known as criminal orders – to exterminate Jews on site without questions asked. Among others, to be sure, for extermination on site was the order of the day for many people in those times, but Jews were named by name.

    One crime doesn’t cancel the other. Because the Jews of Israel behave like brutes doesn’t mean the German Nazis were innocent lambs. I guess they were just good teachers.

    • Replies: @Fox
    , @HeebHunter
  299. @Phoenix

    Exactly what I was thinking. Why does the German population put up with this oppression of a heroic old lady whose only offence is her expressing her opinion? When are Germans going to rise up against Jewish oppression? Why aren’t there thousands in the streets shouting what she says, shouting, if she is mistaken, prove it!

    The Nazis did discriminate against the Jews. Let the people say they did it for certain reasons that might or might not be correct, but not to the degree propaganda claims, not to the degree Jewish holocaust commemorations claim.

    It is high time, if there are going to be “hate speach” laws, that Holocaust commemoration was classified as that, as hate speech.

    Why do the German people allow this?

    • Replies: @Anon
  300. Fox says:

    These orders you are speaking of have not ever been presented and the stories about the ‘holocaust’ have changed over the years in the most extreme way, the only constant being six million. This number was maintained until 1990 by relying on the heave weight of the 4.5 million that had been alleged to have perished at Auschwitz, but then the number was changed to 1.5 millions. Arithmetic would demand that the number of six million would have to be 3 million now, yet the six million is still disseminated with the same somber alacrity as ever, it was even maintained at a time when Hitler was attending school in Braunau.
    Ergo: We are dealing with a Myth, a myth furthermore that is in line with other Jewish myths.

    I think you are mixing your alleging imagination with the Commissar Order which was indeed issued. The Bolshevik political commissars which were the fanatical enforcers of orders at the frontline and considered the main carriers of military resistance were to be shot upon capture. The order was rescinded in May of 1942 due to strong opposition from the German military.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  301. @Fox

    Ursula Haverbeck is a human being of outstanding moral fibre, inner strength and daring

    Thanks as usual, Fox, and please see:

    plus another one on the way. I consider Eric Striker’s article only a beginning.

    • Thanks: Fox
  302. @Mefobills

    This is good reason why it is usually best to avoid these online back-and-forth exchanges with someone who is trying to use your own words against you.

    It is especially a waste of your time, Mefobills. Your comment history speaks for itself (and I mean that as a sincere compliment).

  303. @anarchyst

    “From time immemorial, jews have always considered slavery, genocide, jew supremacy and outright societal destruction as a part of their normal behavior.”

    They “circle the wagons” for pedophilia and even murder in the case of Leo Frank, Godfather of the ADL.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
  304. @GeeBee


    It’s this perpetual hair-splitting that they are taught to use in order to gaslight and confuse.

    The techniques vary based on the nature of the subject being debated. For example, if it’s a topic of history or economics (where Mefobills is often commenting), the “hair-splitting” can be effective in exhausting their target, and the truth gets buried.

    But if the topic falls in the physical sciences (like this virus hoax), the technique becomes an avalanche of statistics and studies and credentials and never-ending technical bullshit. All a diversion. And the goal is similar…exhaust their target and bury the truth.

    This comment thread is an example of the first, and the two active comment sections under Whitney vaccine articles are examples of the second.

    • Agree: GeeBee
    • Thanks: Mefobills
  305. Anon[971] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Why do the German people allow this?

    Quite simple, she breaks the laws. Nearly nobody is interested in this over here and the media don’t mentioned it.

    The same with Assange and the “collateral murder” guy now living in Russia. The US puppet regime refuses “freies Geleit” for him on behalf of reporting US Military “internal”

    Or the now woman the US jailed for whistleblowing of US atrocitties in Abu Ghraib.

    Ask your people how that total shame can happen. I bet most did’nt heard the names.

    It’s a shame, a western shame. All of this.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  306. @Art

    It’s simple, really. Angela Merkel is a communist. Most people in the former communist East Germany wanted to run away from communism, where as Merkel and her family ran to it. It will be an enduring mystery, why the late Chancellor Helmut Kohl, took Merkel under his wing and advanced her politically. He must have known her dubious background.

  307. Ace says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The American “civil rights” activists made a huge deal about the necessity of opposing unjust laws.

  308. Ace says:

    Said no one ever.

    Their “main selling point for attacking the USSR” was to save Germany. Is that too difficult for you?

    I can hardly wait for something more “modern and advanced” to replace “capitalism.” Let me guess. Something, uh, progressive will. Lead us Neanderthals to the Promised Land, O Cyrano.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  309. @TRN

    the construction plans

    Oh great, more holohoax dogshit. The (((WEST))) deserves to be bred out, and every kike deserves to have its brain blown 20 meters away.

  310. @EugeneGur

    Judea declared war on Germany, heh. Muttmerica and Japan had a huge fight over much less.
    It is irrefutable how many KIKES were top capitalist and soviet commissars, controlling both side of rootless materialism while keeping the tribe strong.

    Hitler was too soft. He really should have ordered literally and clearly to snuff every kike, instead of building them several resort complexes.

  311. @Mefobills

    It isn’t the low IQ, but the tired old tactics of repeating recyled propaganda until you are exhausted and pushed out.
    An intellectually honest man will wear himself out arguing or debating.
    A kike or their lackeys only need to spew pre approved lines.

    A losing battle for the former unless the listeners are themselves critical.

    • Agree: John Fisher
  312. It’s simple, really. Angela Merkel is a communist. Most people in the former communist East Germany wanted to run away from communism, where as Merkel and her family ran to it

    She was a child then.

    It will be an enduring mystery, why the late Chancellor Helmut Kohl, took Merkel under his wing and advanced her politically. He must have known her dubious background.

    There is a speech that first class man surrounds them self with other first class people and second class man with third class people.

    And there is a cite from Mr. Kohl about Mrs. Merkel that he has to teach her “eating with knife and fork” first.

    The Chancelorette is a dump opportunist buoyed from the “System Kohl” to top and protected from the media against any real discussion, interview or critic. She is not able to speak a few free sentences with meaning and the perfect marionette for other interests.

    Look for the video on the tube where she tries to find Berlin on a topographic card of Europe.

  313. @GeneralRipper

    Thank you for taking it into consideration.

  314. ! –talk about the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITES —-
    It is OKAY to DENY any HOLOCAUST, except “The Special” one.
    SELECTIVE outrage and SELECTIVE consideration. Well THANK YOU for this perfect illustration of your HYPOCRISY and DUPLICITY. WHENEVER I hear WHINING about “holocaust denial” I will show people WHAT IT IS……
    Thursday, May 04, 2000,
    No Policy Change over “Armenian Genocide”: Israel
    Israel told the Turkish Foreign Ministry that there was no policy change on its side over the so-called Armenian genocide, saying that it is up to historians, not politicians, to discuss the issue, Turkish Daily News reported on Wednesday. SEE? they pass “holocost denial” laws but ONLY for the JEW holocost
    Jews also deny the HOLODOMOR.
    Any time they say “holocaust” I say HOLODOMOR!

  315. The “holocaust” is Insurance Fraud.
    If you apply for a disability claim from an insurance company or, especially, the government, you have to PROVE you have been injured, REPEATEDLY. The insurance companies and government do not just “take your word for it” and never question you again.
    Israel SOLD the Holocaust for Political Leverage and Monetary Reparations, Israel itself opened the Holocaust up to questioning when they SOLD it. Israel FEARS the TRUTH about the NON-holoCOST because the MONEY would dry up, or WORSE have to be RETURNED.

    “If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?” Those must have been HEALTH CAMPS.

    Someone with an actuarial chart should track back and see just HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO START OUT WITH, in order to have 600,000+ survivors 70+ YEARS LATER. And where do they get off with this “I survived 4-5-6 DEATH CAMPS” !? Seems to me those “notoriously efficient” Nazis were pretty sloppy, There had to be one heck of a LOT of “survivors” to begin with in 1945.

  316. Cyrano says:

    Let me explain to you how Germany “saved” itself. About 8 million German morons died in WW2. They were soon replaced by 8 million Turks.

    So who gained some precious lebensraum at expense of whom?

    Also some half a million German Jews died in WW2. They were replaced by various Arabs, Africans and what have you. Good deal? I think not. Pre WW2 ethnic composition of Germany was better than it is now.

    Replace Capitalism? How can anything replace capitalism? It’s evolution resistant, it’s a perfection that nothing can improve on it. Let’s start another capitalist jihad to protect it against the communist infidels. That’s why the west is going down, because it’s full of morons like you.

  317. Reaper says:

    Third point:
    When she start her sentence was stunned “why man cleaning in a female prison” which turned out they were transgenders as the Obama regime made it free of charge for prisoners to change their gender/ get free hormone/ other therapies in the prison system.

    Just consider how much profit it carries when public money used for this in an unlimited scale.
    Off course who started such treatment will continue upon release.
    Who started it will naturaly join to the trans lobby after all they became one of the affected.
    So prison system became an incubator/ recruiter for the trans/ liberal lobby.

  318. erzberger says:


    I didn’t say there was a strategy at work – that would imply conscious intent.

    I agree with much of what you say but I am not in favour of going overboard with victimhood, no matter who does it. Nothing good has ever come of it in my view.

    • Replies: @Fox
  319. Fox says:

    In comment # 104 you agreed with brabantian more or less in thinking that these acts (such as imprisoning a 92-year-old greatgrandmother for saying something not to be uttered) might be the result of a strategy of resentment aginst Jewish influence by making them as the wire pullers in the shaodows appear contemptible.
    I replied that i.m.o. there was no strategy at work, but this amoral and criminal behavior shown by the FRG power pyramid is the result of an induced insanity that has come about through unprecedented brutalization, humiliations, demonization and exploitations of the German Peoples. This started with the First World War and has continued without interruption, Germans are not allowed to lead a normal life with self-respect and pride of the accomplishments in their lives , or the immense accomplishments their people can show amongst the nations. They are officially always beaten down.
    That makes people crazy, and they become self-destructive. I compared this to the Stockholm Syndrome.
    If I listed some of the most egregious outrages committed against them to illustrate my point. That these “some” are so many shows the extent of adversity German have been saddled with. That has nothing to do with playing the victimhood card, which I reject and find weak.

    I have wondered before why you name yourself erzberger. The least one can say about your namesake is that he was a very shady character, a cult is now also being built around him (schools named after him, hagiographies written).

    • Replies: @erzberger
  320. Alohajim says:

    Little off topic, yet directly related to this article : The first central bank in the US began operations in 1782. Not conceived or planned in 1782, but began operations. Six years after the founding of the nation. Their charter was not renewed as it was clear that they were a bunch of thieving criminals. Ditto for the second central bank in the US – thrown out for criminal behavior. We now have the Fed, the third central bank of the USA now 108 years in ‘business’.

    From these facts arise two questions to ponder :

    1. Did these three central banks spring from the same source, ie, were the power brokers and families that started the first CB different from the second or third?

    2. If powerful people (families) instituted a central bank six years after the founding of the USA who were the real, original founders of the country?

    Great comments. Keep your guns. When government workers with a badge and gun come home in a box for ‘just doing their job’, that’s going to put a little kibosh in government worker #2’s motivation.

  321. anarchyst says:

    There was no jewish “holocaust™ ” and I can prove it…

    So if “the holocaust™ ” is thoroughly documented, why do all the documents show that it never happened??

    All of the German camp documents were stored at Bad Aralson since the end of the war. The Red Cross/ITS was the agency charged with controlling these records at Bad Aralson.

    In 1985, 40 years after the war, Dr Charles Beiderman was the head of the Red Cross/ITS, Beiderman was called to testify at the Zundel trial for the prosecution. Beiderman testified that as of December 31, 1983, the total number of deaths registered with the Special Registry Office and various other registry offices was 373,468.

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing was noted or recorded about extermination.

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build camps hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble?

    Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their extremely limited energy resources if the goal was extermination?? Things do not add up.

    Something BIG stinks in this whole jewish holocaust™ deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made deals with the German government in order to make life uncomfortable for jewish Germans.


    In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the yellow Star of David armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

    There were even coins minted showing the collaboration between German and zionist interests.

    The establishment of a homeland along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist dream since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

    What better way to encourage emigration to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the cream of German society (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish holocaust™ is out . . .

    As cremation of ONE human body takes over an hour, the amount of time claimed by holocaust™ promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”.

    There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites.


    Because THEY DO NOT EXIST.

    There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites.


    If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

    The so-called jewish holocaust™ has been turned into a de-facto religion (holocaustianity)in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish holocaust™ truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the tribe that FEAR the real truth of the jewish holocaust™
    being exposed is evident.

    A questionable dishonest judicial “trick” used in holocaust™ trials is that of “judicial notice” in which TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE KANGAROO COURTS THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT.

    Judicial notice, once invoked against a defendant, disallows the introduction of evidence that does not conform to”commonly accepted beliefs” (NOT TRUTH) about the “holocaust™ “, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE EXPOSES THE HOLOCAUST™ CLAIMS, LIES AND FABRICATIONS THAT CAN EASILY BE DEBUNKED. A question for you holocaust promoters-why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of?

    When the truth about this minor historical event finally comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a cash cow that keeps on giving. . . “there’s NO business like SHOAH business”. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully covered up.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question official jewish holocaust™ orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the official jewish holocaust™ story.


    In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to all things holocaust™ . Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

    The latest victims of holocaustianity™ are Ursula Haverbeck, Monika Schaefer and Sylvia Stolz, Haverbeck and Schaefer being elderly grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prisons in Germany for incorrect thoughts.

    Sylvia Stolz is a lawyer who attempted to introduce evidence refuting the so-called “holocaust™ ” claims and was jailed for providing a proper defense for her client by attempting to introduce TRUTH into the court record.

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the chosen) to engineer the jewish holocaust™, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish holocaust™ was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS.

    There have been many TRUE holocausts of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish holocaust is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term holocaust™ to mean mass extermination was never used during or immediately after WW2 or in the 1950s, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that false guilt could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

    Look at the commercialization of the so-called jewish holocaust™ while the much larger jewish bolshevik communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten.

    To assure a continuing supply of jewish holocaust™ survivors, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean camp numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and disease-holocaust™ transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish holocaust survivors are infected with this disease and should also be considered holocaust™ survivors, eligible for holocaust™ reparations. According to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected”with this jewish-only “malady”.

    Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least)..

    This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a homeland Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, while the jewish boycott (actually the jewish declaration of war on Germany) started in1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Let’s not forget that as “world jewry” declared WAR on Germany in 1933, a book “Germany Must Perish” was authored by Theodore N. Kaufman, a jew, who advocated the complete destruction and extermination (total genocide) of Germany, it’s people and culture, and total erasure from the world timeline and history.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a holocaust™ of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

    Regarding that (jewish freak show) holocaust™ showplace Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called gas chambers. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called gassing took place.

    There is a gas chamber chimney that is not connected to anything.

    From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the operators of these supposed gas chambers. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these camps.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported gas chambers, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the gas chambers did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing.

    Mr. Leuchter was rewarded for his search for TRUTH with his professional and personal character assassination by those of the tribe. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts law for practicing engineering without a license-a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

    As to the “camps”, they were primarily labor camps used for the “war effort”-nothing more. There were theaters, sports facilities, swimming pools and other recreational facilities for use by the inmates. In fact, the jewish “kapos” who ran day-to-day activities within the camps were much more cruel to the inmates than the German guards. Unlike the jewish “kapos” who ran day-to-day activities within the camps, German guards faced severe punishment and even execution for abuses committed by them against the camp inmates.

    The emaciated bodies evident in the photos taken at the summation of the war were a result of the destruction of the German infrastructure and rail lines. It was difficult if not almost impossible to get needed supplies to the camps.

    “Zyklon B” was a fumigant used to disinfect clothing (to kill lice) and would have made a very poor “gassing agent”. In fact, it was not possible to be effective as a “gassing agent” due to its volatility and weak potential. Using “bug spray” as an execution agent is laughable on its face.

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets created the death camps for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering, –many people perished.

    The prime cause of death was typhus.

    As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.
    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were liberated by the allies, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be liberated by the Russian allies. WHY??

    It is said that the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth Unfortunately this quote does not apply to “all things holocaust™ “. It appears that there are those”holocaust™ ” promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH.

    Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question any aspects of this minor historical event.


    I urge all holocaust™ believers to check these things out for
    yourselves IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    • Thanks: Kolya Krassotkin
  322. anarchyst says:

    Here is an excerpt from jewish author Theodore N. Kaufman’s book “Germany Must Perish”: This vile tome advocated the complete destruction of German culture, music, society, architecture, and everything German. In other words, total genocide of Germany and the German people.
    Germany has lost its war. She sues for peace. The imperative demands of the victor people that Germany must perish forever makes it obligatory for the leaders to select mass sterilization of the Germans as the best means of wiping them out permanently. They proceed to:
    1. Immediately and completely disarm the German army and have all armaments removed from German territory.
    2. Place all German utility and heavy industrial plants under heavy guard, and replace German workers by those of Allied nationality.
    3. Segregate the German army into groups, concentrate them in severely restricted areas, and summarily sterilize them.
    4. Organize the civilian population, both male and female, within territorial sectors, and effect their sterilization.
    5. Divide the German army (after its sterilization has been completed) into labor battalions, and allocate their services toward the rebuilding of those cities which they ruined.
    6. Partition Germany and apportion its lands. The accompanying map gives some idea of possible land adjustments which might be made in connection with Germany’s extinction.
    7. Restrict all German civilian travel beyond established borders until all sterilization has been completed.
    8. Compel the German population of the apportioned territories to learn the language of its area, and within one year to cease the publication of all books, newspapers and notices in the German language, as well as to restrict German-language broadcasts and discontinue the maintenance of German-language schools.
    9. Make one exception to an otherwise severely strict enforcement of total sterilization, by exempting from such treatment only those Germans whose relatives, being citizens of various victor nations, assume financial responsibility for their emigration and maintenance and moral responsibility for their actions.
    Thus, into an oblivion which she would have visited upon the world, exits Germany.
    Now if you were a German living at that time, what would you think about jews?

    • Replies: @erzberger
  323. Georgi says:

    I am ashamed of german (in)justice.

  324. erzberger says:


    “I have wondered before why you name yourself erzberger. The least one can say about your namesake is that he was a very shady character, a cult is now also being built around him (schools named after him, hagiographies written).”

    The street of my hometown in the FRG where I grew up in the60s was Erzbergerstrasse, and that’s why I chose the name. Also because I don’t think of him as a “shady character” at all. He was assassinated as one of the “November criminals”, and I cherish his memory without being a cultist. Please don’t lecture me about the FRG, or the demonization of Germans. I am perfectly well aware of it, and so was Erzberger. I don’t know where you grew up but I doubt very nuch you understand the German problem any better than I do.

    • Replies: @Fox
  325. erzberger says:

    Kaufman was a nutcase pacifist and what is never told about him is that he had the same plans of his fellow Americans should they throw themselves, as they did, into yet another war – sterilization and thus: genocide. He was therefore a lot less anti-German than the non-Jewish Hooton, who was promptly opposed by a Russian sociologist.

  326. Fox says:

    Erzberger bears a heavy responsibility for bringing Germany in the terrible situation after the war by signing without hesitation the French conditions for the armistice and later urging for the acceptance of the Dictate Peace of Versailles, Helfferich called him Perisher of the Reich.
    Today he is held in high esteem because he was instrumental in bringing about the downfall of Germany and order in Middle Europe, a choice goal of yesteryears’s globalists, the transnational freemason network.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @erzberger
  327. @Bombercommand

    A colony is held indefinitely.

    By that logic, no one has colonized anyone ever. Unless maybe you want to count the tiny handful of existing possessions, like the Falklands.

  328. @Carolyn Yeager

    I consider Eric Striker’s article only a beginning.

    Thanks, Carolyn.

    Carolyn’s coverage of this is more thorough, and has been consistent. Plus, unlike Striker, Carolyn isn’t a never-Trump wignat lockdown lover like the rest of the TRS crew in general.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  329. EugeneGur says:

    Arithmetic would demand that the number of six million would have to be 3 million now,

    Even assuming that, 3 million isn’t enough for you? How many is? I don’t think the number of people perished in the Russian cities, makeshift concentration camps, Jewish ghettos, which existed in every significant town in Ukraine, Belorussia, and Eastern Russia, has been accurately estimated. And so what?
    We the Russians don’t dwell much on the Holocaust, because, although the Jews were often the first to be killed, others weren’t that far behind. Nevertheless, the Jewish communities, which existed in many places in the western part of the Soviet Union since times immemorial, have all but disappeared after the war.

    I think you are mixing your alleging imagination with the Commissar Order which was indeed issued.

    Not just that, but also Guidelines for the Conduct of the Troops in Russia, which specifically mentioned Jews to be eliminated alongside Bolshevik agitators, guerrillas, saboteurs and such. And the Commissars – what a horrible group of people they were indeed! The main carriers of military resistance to the occupiers – the sure deserved to be shot on site.

    The order was rescinded in May of 1942 due to strong opposition from the German military.

    Yes, the military did object – not on moral grounds, but because the orders stiffened the resistance even more. Besides, the German military, creatures of order as they were, diligently carried them out.

    • Replies: @Fox
    , @Robjil
    , @erzberger
  330. Fox says:

    I am not making guesses as you do, but the fact that the 6-million arithmetic always arrives at 6 million no matter what (e.g. 6000000 – 3000000 = 6000000, an impossible result, I hope you realize), and that it had already peddled by at least 1906 (article in the New York Times) tells me that the whole complex is of a mythical nature.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  331. Years ago I would say this kind of injustice could never happen in America. Our courts wouldn’t allow it, especially the Supreme Court. Now I am not so sure.

    • Agree: John Fisher
    • Replies: @erzberger
  332. noname27 says: • Website
    @Rufus Clyde

    Trading with Capitalist nations did not make Hitler’s Germany a Capitalist nation. Looks like your whole comment is an oxymoron – just like the dumb term ‘logical fallacy’.

    The point you fail to understand is that international bartering was as a direct result of the Bolshevik Internationalist Jews declaring commercial war on Germany in 1933.

    I will recopy the quote you failed to respond to as you were so busy trying to disprove Churchill’s quote, because the censored internet let you down.

    “As long as Germany and Italy are under their present governments, they will not touch foreign loans,and Germany by her method of internal economy and trading has eliminated the international financier, and those who make profits by playing with foreign exchanges.

    That is doubtless why the government is being forced by the “City” (Rothschilds) to start a trade war with Germany. If the economic methods devised by Germany are successful, and spread to other nations, and if Hitler succeeds in his policy of establishing permanent peace in Europe, the high financier will cease to be able to exist. It is therefore their main interest today to plunge the four powers into war, in order to destroy Germany and Italy”

    — Written by the Scottish chemist Arthur Pillans Laurie, on page 91 (or page 90 of the pdf which can be found online) of his 1939 book “The Case for Germany”.

    • Thanks: John Fisher
  333. Agreed!

    Love the handle, also.

  334. The “judge” said she will, “continue to be punished, UNTIL SHE LEARNS TO KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT.” LOL..Got to give it to the guy, he has no problem asserting his free speech. This is the new and improved Germany, or, the one that helped free the totalitarian Eastern Germany. LOL Recently a high ranking professor at an American Ivy league school, has also been pushing the view that the problem with the U.S., IS, that there is too much free speech. So it seems that Americans could one day have a fate common with Mrs. Ursula……../PEACE

  335. Lurker says:

    How long has it been since a majority of white men voted to elect a Democratic President?

    Fifty years I believe.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  336. Lurker says:

    Sorry, I meant over fifty years. 1964 maybe?

  337. Robjil says:

    Nevertheless, the Jewish communities, which existed in many places in the western part of the Soviet Union since times immemorial, have all but disappeared after the war.

    12 million Germans where forced to flee their ancestral homes in the most Eastern regions of Germany after WWII. Many did not survive.

    Of the 12 million Eastern Germans pushed out of the East, how many had lived in the regions under examination in this study? According to a 1939 census, over five million Prussians and Pomeranians had lived in the Eastern territories.5 However, the Bundesausgleichsamt reported that there were 3,360,000 East Prussians, West Prussians and Pomeranians in the postwar Germanies by 1950. (Estimates from 1950 suggest that2,220,000 of the Prussian expellees lived in West Germany and 1,140,000 in the GDR.)6Excluding the wartime casualties and death by natural causes, how can on account for such an contraction of the population?

    Many Jews in Pale of Settlement ( Ex-Polish Kingdom regions – Baltics, Poland, Belarussia, Ukraine ) went to Russia in the early Soviet era. The Soviet Union was pro-Jewish, so why stay in Pale. There was a mass movement of Jews to take top jobs all over the Soviet Union.

    Some Jews returned to Poland after WWII when it was Communist to settle in ex-German regions of the Poland. A few Poles mentioned this before here on this website before. How many Jews really did settle in these new lands?

    From February until July 1946, a large wave of 136,000 Jewish repatriates arrived in Poland from the Soviet Union.
    31 Most of them were directed to Lower Silesia, as it had the best conditions for their resettlement.

    Notice that many of these Jews took over German properties. There is a recent big deal about Jews wanting to take back property in Poland. Is some of these Jewish properties really German properties?

    According to the first government reports arriving in Warsaw from Dzierżoniów, some

    freshly demobilized Jewish soldiers of the Polish army had joined Soviet marauders in robbing arriving Polish settlers.

    19 This was a time of chaos, of masses of people travelling through Europe to their homes from camps and forced labor, of Poles and Jews flocking from now Soviet territories, settlers from Central Poland, members of the anti-communist underground trying to hide in Lower Silesia or escape Poland with masses of other illegal emigrants, and of disoriented Germans who stayed in their homes or returned to them after initial flight. In some localities of Lower Silesia, Jews had played a substantial role in the gradual restoration of order. Despite official support from central state authorities for building Jewish social institutions, and taking over German property.,

    Harsh measures against German civilians was supported by Polish Jews and American Jewry.

    The connection between German deportations and the development of the Polish Jewish community in Lower Silesia was not only a matter of “objective” historical circumstances. In the wake of the Holocaust, there was a certain affinity between the dual notions of Jewish resettlement and anti-German revenge, for both Polish Jews and for important representatives of American Jewry visiting Lower Silesia at the time. Enthusiastic support for the harsh measures taken against the German population, and the great optimism for the prospects of Jewish life in Lower Silesia, from people such as the American Jewish communist Pesach Novick, who visited Poland in 1946.

    All this is not talked about in our (((free))) press.

    • Replies: @erzberger
    , @annamaria
    , @Robjil
  338. @RoatanBill

    There are claims of 20 genocides since 1950., such as the Hutu / Tutsi massacres. There are no legal sanctions imposed against those who dispute the details of any of them.

    The Turkish genocide of the Armenians is disputed by the Turkish government. No sanctions are levelled against them.

    The criminalising of those who dispute the ‘Holocaust’ is unique. At the least, the figure of 6 millions which crops up regularly in Jewish claims of persecution over history is highly suspect.6

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @erzberger
  339. @Tim Heydon

    The criminalising of those who dispute the ‘Holocaust’ is unique. At the least, the figure of 6 millions which crops up regularly in Jewish claims of persecution over history is highly suspect.

    Important point about the uniqueness. But “highly suspect?” It’s been proven an impossibility and a complete fabrication in a hundred ways! There is not an ounce of truth to it. Can you not go that far (all the way) with the magic number at least?

    The uniqueness of the ‘Holocaust’ is easy to understand. It’s due to one factor only: it’s a Jewish enterprise from start to finish, and it’s in the Jews’ long-term interest to keep it alive and breathing. Not to say it doesn’t benefit various groups of non-Jews – it does – but world Jewry/Israel is the energy, brains and money behind it. As long as they’re able to protect themselves with “anti-Semitism” against all critics, they are safe.

  340. erzberger says:

    “the German military, creatures of order as they were”

    of course, in all other armies everyone does what they feel like and nobody follows orders? Tired of the dumb stereotypes

  341. erzberger says:
    @Jon Sobieski

    Can’t wait until it is illegal in the US to claim that the native Americans just all died of disease

  342. To deny the mass murder of the Jews is absurd, so is overlooking the murder of Christians, especially Catholics by the pagan Nazi regime. Locking anyone up for “Holocaust denial” is a violation of the principle of free speech, it is a thought crime worthy of the Nazi regime the present German government is beginning to imitate. Said government also denies parents the right to educate their children at home as said children would not develop “the right idea toward the state.” Adolph’s spirit must be living with Frau Merkel and her government.

  343. erzberger says:
    @Tim Heydon

    “ The criminalising of those who dispute the ‘Holocaust’ is unique.”

    It is not.

    “ In 2014, Russian blogger Vladimir Luzgin posted an update on VKontakte, a social media network popular in Russia. The update included this seemingly benign paragraph:

    “The Communists and Germany jointly invaded Poland, sparking off World War II. That is, communism and Nazism closely collaborated. […] But although Luzgin’s update might have had its facts right, in the eyes of Russian authorities it represented an inconvenient truth, one that complicates the otherwise heroic story of the millions of Russians who fought and died against Adolf Hitler and fascism in the “Great Patriotic War” that Vladimir Putin likes to use for propaganda purposes today. And so, this June, Luzgin was convicted and fined 200,000 rubles under Russia’s recent law against “Nazi rehabilitation,” which prohibits the “public denial of the Nuremberg trials and circulation of false information about the activities of the USSR during the years of World War II.” On Sept. 1 — the anniversary of the German invasion of Poland — Russia’s Supreme Court upheld the conviction.

    The Russian law that was applied in this case was originally adopted in 2014 and has consistently been the subject of international criticism, especially from European media and institutions such as the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Yet Europe’s critics tend to skirt their own inconvenient truth: Such “memory laws” — laws that criminalize deviations from official historical accounts — were pioneered by European democracies and the EU.“

    Post WW 2 European laws were, of course, not the result of anything that could be called democratic. The German constitution , or Basic Law, was written by US Lawyers, and the Nazi party was outlawed even though more than 50 % of Germans still approved of Hitler. If you wanted to survive, and most Germans did, you had to play along. It’s not some great mystery, and while Jewish interests did play a part, the main responsibility lies elsewhere – with the Allied victors who denied and projected their own monstrous crimes onto Germany and the Germans as absolute evil

    • Replies: @Robjil
  344. erzberger says:

    Ok, you’re an anti-semite who would not apply the same argument to other people. Example:

    “ Many Jews in Pale of Settlement ( Ex-Polish Kingdom regions – Baltics, Poland, Belarussia, Ukraine ) went to Russia in the early Soviet era. The Soviet Union was pro-Jewish, so why stay in Pale. There was a mass movement of Jews to take top jobs all over the Soviet Union.”

    Let me reprase that for you:

    Many Europeans went to the US in the years following the American Revolution. The US was pro-European/White, so why stay in the impoverished/oppressive European states? There was a mass movement of Eurpeans to take top jobs/land all over the US.”

    Do you have a problem with that?

    “Notice that many of these Jews took over German properties.”

    Simple and irrefutable demographics would indicate that most German properties in the annexed and ethnically cleansed territories were taken over by non-Jewish Poles, Czechs , Russians etc , which is exactly what happened. Blaming the Jews is just another example of denial and projection.

    “Harsh measures against German civilians was supported by Polish Jews and American Jewry.”

    The great majority of people who supported. harsh measures against German civilians were not Jewish. One of the most prominent voices at the time AGAINST the crimes committed against the German people was Victor Gollancz, a British Jew:

    “In April 1945, Gollancz addressed the issue of German collective guilt in a pamphlet, What Buchenwald Really Means that explained that all Germans were not guilty. He maintained that hundreds of thousands of gentiles had been persecuted by the Nazis and many more had been terrorized into silence. Equally, UK citizens who had done nothing to save the Jews despite living in a democracy, were not free of guilt. This marked a shift of Gollancz’s attention towards the people of Germany. In September 1945, he started an organisation Save Europe Now (SEN) to campaign for the support of Germans, and over the next four years he wrote another eight pamphlets and books addressing the issue and visited the country several times.

    Gollancz’s campaign for the humane treatment of German civilians involved efforts to persuade the British government to end the ban on sending provisions to Germany and ask that it pursue a policy of reconciliation, as well as organising an airlift to provide Germany and other war-torn European countries with provisions and books. He wrote regular critical articles for, and letters to, British newspapers, and after a visit to the British Zone of Occupation in October and November 1946, he published these along with shocking close-up photos of malnourished children he took there in In Darkest Germany in January 1947.

    On the expulsion of Germans after World War II he said: “So far as the conscience of humanity should ever again become sensitive, will this expulsion be an undying disgrace for all those who remember it, who caused it or who put up with it. The Germans have been driven out, but not simply with an imperfection of excessive consideration, but with the highest imaginable degree of brutality.”

    I highly recommend Gollancz’ writings on the persecution of Jews during the Third Reich, Germans after 45, or Palestinians/Arabs under Zionism to anyone interested in how to be a Mensch rather than a projectionist hater. I noticed many times, here and elsewhere, this, frankly, revolting tendency to disproportionally blame Jews for crimes largely committed by Gentiles. There is no better example than the vilification and treatment of Germans. I understand how a lot of Anglos and Americans, not to mention Poles,Czechs, Belgians etc rather not face up to the criminality and inhumanity of their own countries and fellow Christians and blame either Jews or Germans, or both. I simply recommend to look into a mirror if you want to identify the enemy.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  345. @Spirit of the Fighting 69th

    >merkel is da real nazi
    More evidence why “da white race” deserves the road ahead.

  346. erzberger says:
    @Badger Down

    Thomas’ opinion ignored the fact that most Israelis are Middle Eastern Jews who did not originate from Europe or the US, and could only “go back” to countries that will not let them enter, even as visitors. Like Saudi Arabia, that other long-term close ally of the US, making the latter’s claim to be pro-democracy and not in bed with dictators and anti-semites extremely ludicrous. She violated the very central blood and soil claim of Zionism according to which Jews are native to Palestine and the ME, which is a fact, as is her observation that Zionist political leadership has long been dominated by European and American Jews who are not. Bigger nonsense is proclaimed on a daily basis in the US, of course, without penalty. That’s the problem. Punish all of it, or none of it, as the First Amendment would demand. But the problem has long since been apparent in other areas of thought: It is apparently ok to spread baseless conspiracy theories about stolen elections wrt 2016 (Russiagate) but not 2020, even though one is as unhinged as the other

  347. erzberger says:

    To recommend Helfferich, of all people, as a reliable witness on Erzberger is laughable, really. What is clear about Erzberger is this: he wanted to prevent the hyperinflation that was the direct result of the policies of Helfferich and the pro-war party, whereas most Germans were much less keen on annexations etc but rather wanted to survive and not be starved to death by the British blockade which could only be evaded by starving non-Germans. That’s what happened on a large scale, disproportionally affecting Jews, as openly announced in Hitler’s Prophesy Speech in Januar 39, during ww 2.

    I’m not into sacrificing Germans or other people for geopolitical fantasies, and remain in the Erzberger camp, thank you.

    • Replies: @Fox
  348. annamaria says:

    Check the ever thieving family of Madeleine Albright. It is not for nothing that she is so strikingly ugly; it is her subhuman soul that has been peeking out.
    Albright’s proclaimed ‘worthiness” of the deaths of 500.000 Iraqi children converges with the rapacious greediness of her parents.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Lee
  349. annamaria says:

    Why have the western powers been waging wars of aggression in the Middle East? — To satisfy the zionists’ flaming desire for Eretz Israel Empire. By any means.

    “cover-ups by Western governments over their funding of terrorist groups in Syria are starting to unravel,” by Vanessa Beeley

    Evidence of Dutch and British funding for extremists who’ve beheaded children & carried out ethnic-cleansing grows by the day. Yet most of the mainstream media – including the BBC – still try to keep this truth silent.

    Recently, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte effectively blocked a Parliamentary motion to allow an external independent investigation of Dutch government funding of terrorist groups in Syria.

    Rutte initially tried to deny his involvement in the burial of the investigation but tenacious questioning from journalists forced him to admit his personal interference. According to Rutte, such an investigation could result in “tensions with our allies […] the lives of former members of opposition groups could be put at stake.”

    Oh, the girly Rutte and other bloody servants to mass-slaughterers now feel uncomfortable. Poor opportunists… How about the beheaded children and destroyed country of Syria?

    A recent article by journalist Kit Klarenberg revealed the role that Le Mesurier’s widow, Emma Winberg, played in the PR support for Syrian armed groups. Winberg was co-founder of Incostrat, a FCO-outreach agency funded by the Conflict Stability and Security Fund that also finances Mayday Rescue and the White Helmets. The BBC made no mention of Winberg’s involvement in what is effectively a clandestine black-op run by the British government [thouroughy zionized] in an effort to destabilise Syria and to effect “regime change.”

    Before his exploit at genociding Syrians in the name of Eretz Israel, Le Mesurier “was working for British military intelligence during his time in Kosovo in 1999.”

  350. MaxxNY says:

    Ursula Haverbeck

    is a 93 year old German woman sitting in a German prison for so called “holocaust denial”. She doesn’t deny it, she just doesn’t believe it.

    Using circumstantial evidence and expert witness. All verifiable. Let’s review –

    1) The Red Cross , under Rules of the Geneva Convention, visited every camp, once a month to make sure prisoners were fed, clothed and housed properly. Red Cross put the total combined death toll at 273,000 .

    2) “Crime Doctor” by Dr. Charles Larson (1975) who did forensic analysis on the corpses while a German soldier protected him, concluded that prisoners died of typhus and starvation from the allied bombing of supply lines.

    3)Kristallnacht wikipedia, entry, Its all about the numbers first, states –

    “Nazi propaganda singled out the 500,000 Jews in Germany, who accounted for only 0.86% of the overall population”

    “By the time the conference took place, more than 250,000 Jews had fled Germany and Austria, which had been annexed by Germany”

    “in March 1938; more than 300,000 German and Austrian Jews continued to seek refuge and asylum from oppression.”

    Hitler let 550,000 Jews emigrate to friendlier countries .
    That leaves far less than 20,000 to “holocaust”

    That the Hollywood news reels were directed by Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock. One is a film called “Memories of the Camps” is evidence of blatant fraud and libel. Its almost laughable .

    That it was admitted that the “shrunken heads, lampshades, and bars of soap made from jews” were all faked according to Michael Schermer of Skeptic magazine. I know Germans, they would never wash themselves with soap made from jews.
    The word “holocaust” by the very definition , you don’t survive. Not to mention many other errors presented as fact. The whole story is ludicrous, and Mrs Haverbeck needs to be released immediately . Just going to prison for having a non violent opinion, in itself is criminal and highly suspect.

    • Agree: annamaria
  351. scy says:

    Thank heavens the Allies prevailed in Germany. Otherwise, who knows what kind of dictatorial nightmare that nation might be today?

    Imagine Germany in 2020 if the U.S. and Soviet Union had not beaten some democratic sense into the totalitarian Nazi state. Imagine a Germany that had not been immolatingly guided into embracing the sacred tenets of freedom and human rights. A Germany not brought to heel in 1945 would surely be a monstrous, oppressive society that tortures 92-year-old women just because they don’t parrot state doctrine.

    Oh, wait; that’s Germany today. Sorry, Hitler!

    • Agree: HeebHunter
  352. erzberger says:
    @the grand wazoo

    No members of the US army got anywhere near the camps that did operate gas chambers/vans, or what were, at least in part, death camps. Your uncle told the truth about the camps in the Reich that were liberated by the western allies, and it is also true that lies have been spread about these camps for decades. That does not, however, prove in any way that there was no Holocaust, or that the Auschwitz gas chambers Himmler destroyed in late 44 never existed.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  353. Fox says:

    Which annexations? In which way is the “pro-war party” responsible for the hyper inflation? I can’t tell what you are talking about. Starving non-Germans? So, now it was the Germans who were maintaining a starvation blockade? The hyper inflation occurred in 1923, while Erzberger was assassinated in 1921, and while he was a finance expert, at the time of his death a hyper inflation was not in sight.
    Looking for too long into the abyss of FRG celebritydom and reading Das Parlament seems to betake people of their power to make sound judgements.

    • Replies: @erzberger
  354. Lee says:

    Ann said:

    Albright’s proclaimed ‘worthiness” of the deaths of 500.000 Iraqi children

    Albright tried to tidy her answer up a bit in her 2003 memoirs but I don’t think that it worked.At least she didn’t later claim that her words were taken out of context as so often happens today.

    I must have been crazy; I should have answered the question by reframing it and pointing out the inherent flaws in the premise behind it. Saddam Hussein could have prevented any child from suffering simply by meeting his obligations…. As soon as I had spoken, I wished for the power to freeze time and take back those words. My reply had been a terrible mistake, hasty, clumsy and wrong. Nothing matters more than the lives of innocent people. I had fallen into the trap and said something I simply did not mean. That was no one’s fault but my own [page 275].

  355. erzberger says:

    Which annexations? Good question because there was no particular consensus in ‘Germany on this issue throughout the war. Helfferich, for instance, was preparing the annexation plans for the separate peace of Brest-Litovsk, and also very much for expanding German colonies in Central Africa. Belgium and her massive colonial possessions in the Congo were definitely on the list. Erzberger was originally as enthusiastic for war and in favour of annexations for the purpose of strengthening German security and prosperity but had changed his mind by 1917. See the Reichstag peace resolution which he introduced but was rejected by both the nationalist/conservative camp of the Helfferich types, and, of course, the allies as well

    The German inflation and hyper-inflation started in 1914 when – Helfferich was instrumental in this – financed the war effort not by taxation (Erzberger’s preferred method) but war bonds, basically borrowing money not from foreign banks (as did Britain, France) but from the German population. Confident of victory, the Allied losers were then supposed to pay for the war. That didn’t work out. As Smedley Butler explained in War is a Racket (1933):

    “ Looking back, Woodrow Wilson was re-elected president in 1916 on a platform that he had “kept us out of war” and on the implied promise that he would “keep us out of war.” Yet, five months later he asked Congress to declare war on Germany.

    In that five-month interval the people had not been asked whether they had changed their minds. The 4,000,000 young men who put on uniforms and marched or sailed away were not asked whether they wanted to go forth to suffer and to die.

    Then what caused our government to change its mind so suddenly?


    An allied commission, it may be recalled, came over shortly before the war declaration and called on the President. The President summoned a group of advisers. The head of the commission spoke. Stripped of its diplomatic language, this is what he told the President and his group:

    “There is no use kidding ourselves any longer. The cause of the allies is lost. We now owe you (American bankers, American munitions makers, American manufacturers, American speculators, American exporters) five or six billion dollars.

    “If we lose (and without the help of the United States we must lose) we, England, France and Italy, cannot pay back this money … and Germany won’t.


    Had secrecy been outlawed as far as war negotiations were concerned, and had the press been invited to be present at that conference, or had the radio been available to broadcast the proceedings, America never would have entered the World War. But this conference, like all war discussions, was shrouded in the utmost secrecy.

    When our boys were sent off to war they were told it was a “war to make the world safe for democracy” and a “war to end all wars.”

    Well, eighteen years after, the world has less of democracy than it had then.”

    The entry of the US (and China) into the war was very clearly the check-mate for the Central powers. The blockade got substantially worse and starved hundreds of thousands of Germans and other Europeans, as well as Middle Easterners. Not to mention several million Persians because the British navy practically stole their oil and even their food. So much for the. Brits respecting or defending neutrality. The Germans, during the Peace for Bread deal with Ukraine respected the needs of the local population, the hierarchy was: The german army, then the Ukrainians, then the German population. In WW Ii it was the Wehrmacht, the German population, the the local / occupied populations, with Jews at the very bottom. That’s what I meant by starving other people for the purpose of saving your own population. And yes, none of this would have happened in either war without the British blockade.

    The fight to the bitter end war party in Germany miscalculated, and lost, not for lack o miltay competence but lack of human and material resources. Even without reparations, Helfferich set the path to inflation with massive war debt that could only be remedied by the complete taxation reform introduced by erzberger prior to his resignation in 1920. It is still the model for current taxation in the FRG. The Nationalists and Conservatives like the imperialist banker Helfferich deeply resented this, especially the wealth tax. Most of them were upper middle or upper class. It was all about money for them as well. Like the British or American.elites, they’d rather steal from other peoples than share their wealth with their fellow Germans. Erzberger actually cared for the people who were not wealthy, and suffered the brunt of the war.

    That the Germans sank to the sordid materialistic level of the British and American imperialists in WW 1 and 2 both understandable and unforgivable. To blame Erzberger and the Jews for Versailles is plain nonsense

  356. Trengi says:

    I would like to send her my Christmas and New Year wishes. Do you know how I can find out the address I should write to? Thank you

    • Replies: @augusto
  357. Robjil says:

    Thanks for the mention of Gollancz. There were always some good Jews who spoke up. Today we have Unz who is the best example of it today.

    I grew in the US in the Cold war era. Ever since I was born, I brought up by our Media that Jews had suffered so much. In school, we heard of the Crusades. We were told that Jews suffered so much in Jerusalem at that time. Yet, we were not told about the Mamilla Pool Massacre of 614 in Jerusalem by Jewish rebels. The big 6 was touted endlessly as the biggest sin ever in history. Yet, we were never told about the big 6 mantra of the Jews in trouble in our (((free))) press since the 1800s.

    I got over all this in 2014 when Nuland took over Ukraine with neo-Nazis thugs. Ironically, this new regime only allows Jewish presidents. No Shabbos Goys are allowed. Nuland knew what she was doing after all.

    Ever since 2014, I have been peeling the onion of our rulers. The tyranny of Jewish power rule started in full force on the world on 12 23 1913. We are living in the height of terror of Jewish power in our times. Germans certainly had this terror at extreme levels after WWII in the Eastern Regions.

    Nancy Pelosi’s words sums up the world we live in today.

    QUOTE: “if this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel.”
    – Nancy Pelosi, Israel-American Council Conference

    This 6 million thing has been used and is still being used as a weapon of mass destruction. The dream of it in the 1800s. The reality of this weapon we have today. It started in full as I noted before on 12 23 1914 with the FED in the USA. USA was in the league of Jewish power now. Thus, some months later WWI starts to get the Balfour. WWII to get Israel. Central and Eastern Europe totally destroyed for that goal. Millions of masses of people people fleeing everywhere. It would be a great camoflauge that the big 6 happened after all.

    Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ‘6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less. See Ben Weintraub: “The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism”, Cosmo Publishing, Washington 1995, page 3. The missing 6 million must be so before the Jews can return to the Promised Land. Jahweh sees this as a cleaning of the souls of the sinful people. The Jews must, on the return to the Promised Land, be clean — the cleaning shall be done in burning stokes. –A Correspondent

    These days the greatest weapon, which is the big 6, ever devised by any culture in the history of this planet, is used to intimidate anyone who speaks against anything that our rulers want to do. One huge example is the Seven Nations to Destroy since 9 11. This idea of seven to destroy is how the first Israel of the Torah was created. It is a re-do in our time. 911 is another example, Jewish Zionists or Israel Firsters footprints are all over that crime. Yet, no one speaks up because of the big 6 shield of Jewish power.

    The Divide and Conquer games was played after WWII. Eastern Europeans were “allowed” to chase out 12-14 million German speakers from their nations. There was no “pity” allowed for this crime.

  358. This just shows that words are indeed more powerful and “dangerous” than bullets. Everyone should have the right to speak their mind, however wrong it might seem, but then confront them with your own words instead.
    It is good to know that German Fascism is truly well and alive, may they rot in hell!!
    Too bad the Americans did not make a genocide there, they will instigate another war, bu maybe the Russians will be less lenient..

  359. Robjil says:

    The Russian law is not big 6 denial law. Here is some info on it. The Luzgin was the only guy who ever was fined. Notice fined not jailed for five years or more like in the (((free))) west.

    The controversial “Rehabilitation of Nazism” law in Russia, passed in 2009 and signed in 2014, has remained in its purely symbolic form until 2016. Prior to then, it was never invoked and no prosecutions ever derived from it. In fact, Russian mainstream publishers offer a dizzying array of anti-Judaic and “Holocaust denial” literature published regularly. Unlike the west, such attitudes are common rather than marginal.

    Roman Yushkov tested this law in 2016.

    However, Roman Yushkov, a Russian nationalist from Perm, the law’s first test case, was tried on the grounds of “inciting ethnic hatred.” Yushkov used his VK account to attack the “conclusions” of the Nuremberg Tribunal. In particular, he rejected the “six million”claim. According to the western-financed, liberal SOVA Center, he stated on both his VK and Facebook pages, “Jews! Return the money to the Germans you stole by fraud by the “Holocaust [of the] six millions Jews!” His articles were less emotional and conformed to the basic standards of journalism long lost in the west.

    He had three trials. He is free now. No jail time like in Germany or in places in the (((free))) west.

    He had no fewer than three trials. Since this sort of case has never been tried in Russia before, the trial’s procedure was chaotic. The case was brought by the Perm branch of the Chabad Hasidic sect, who had been quietly colonizing this ancient region of Old Russia. The case was brought by Vladimir Kliner, an Israeli citizen, multi-millionaire and financier of Chabad. His final acquittal came on September 6 2018. His first trial ended in an acquittal, but the second yielded a conviction, for which he was given probation, while and the third overturned that. Today, he’s a free man.

    Chabbad tried to use this law to get big 6 jail time in Russia. It failed thanks to Russian courts.

    The acquittal of Yushkov means that the touted “Rehabilitation of Nazism” law in Russia is a dead letter. The jury stated that no law may stop academic or journalistic research into a topic. His victory comes from the jury, but also the Russian press, the church and the local population.

    It is not big 6 denial law at all like in the (((free))) west.

    Furthermore, the nature of this law is completely different from how it was presented by most writers in the west. It was never a “Holocaust denial” law. The condemnation of “Putin” on this, as always, is based on rumor. It was Medvedev’s project, not Putin’s and, in addition, it wasn’t aimed at the Jews at all. It was a patriotic law – of a sort. Its condemnation in the west proves that.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @erzberger
  360. Robjil says:

    This article is from a Jewish source about Polish Jews going to Soviet Union in large numbers.

    This passportization policy also affected the 1,100,000 Jews who had been residing in the former eastern Polish territories, the kresy, as well as the refugees from western Poland, who had fled east.10 While the first had no choice but to accept Soviet citizenship, the latter were asked whether they wanted to become Soviet citizens or return to the German-occupied former Polish territories.

    Why was the NKVD taking so many Polish citizens? Were they Polish Jews?

    According to Daniel Boćkowski, between October 1939 and June 1941 an estimated 750,000–780,000 Polish civilians were transfered to various parts of the Soviet Union by the Soviet secret police, the NKVD (People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs)

    They seem to be Jews after all. Many left camps in Soviet Union in autumn 1941 to go to warmer regions in the Central Asian Republics.

    In the Polish-Soviet agreement of July1941, the two parties agreed to release“all Polish citizens on Soviet territory at present deprived of their freedom as prisoners of war or on other adequate grounds.”13Followingthis amnesty in autumn 1941, large numbers of Polish Jews fled from the camps in northern Russia to warmer regions in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and other Central Asian Soviet republics. There, they joined Jews from the former Polish eastern provinces who had fled the advancing German army after June 1941. Due to their Soviet citizenship, some Polish Jews had been included in the state-organized evacuation of Soviet citizens to the Central Asian Soviet republics.14

    • Replies: @Robjil
  361. L.K says:

    The Russian law is not big 6 denial law.

    The Russian law is essentially to block Russian historians from probing too deep, as many were doing, into the core Russian national MYTH of the so called great patriotic war.
    Their work was destroying this mythology and needed to be discouraged.

    At the end of the day, the purpose is the same as the laws against holocaust revisionism.

    To protect a fraudulent, synthetic, but sacred, official narrative of the past, which otherwise would completely fall apart.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  362. timrwebb says:
    @Chris Moore

    Now the holocaust may not have happened, but I will go to my death defending the assertion by another elderly lady, Emmaly Reed, that as a young girl imprisoned by evil Nazis in one of the death camps, she had large nails hammered into her head by said evil Nazis, and witnessed them shovelling human faeces into the food given to the inmates. Credibly, she also asserts, with my full support, that when the Nazis abandoned the camps as the Russians approached, inmates were left hanging on the walls secured by barbed wire, such that if they moved or struggled, their throats were cut.
    Originally, she was also tattooed, but with the passage of time, the tattoo has completely disappeared.
    Video of this dear soul making these assertions is on BitChute.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  363. Robjil says:

    To protect a fraudulent, synthetic, but sacred, official narrative of the past, which otherwise would completely fall apart.

    We are all learning this is so. This was only passed in 2014 because of Nuland’s Neo- Nazi Thug junta in 2014. As years passed, two Jewish presidents in this junta, Russia realizes it wasn’t the Neo-Nazis who were coming back. It was the usual Jewish power game after all. Thus, there has been a roll back on enforcing this law.

    Strongly criticised for vagueness and technical shortcomings, the May 2009 bill was soon withdrawn, but a slightly changed version was adopted almost unanimously in May 2014, only two months after the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine which, according to Russia, brought to power a radical “fascist” junta.

  364. Robjil says:

    The 1956 revolt in Hungary is quite interesting. Hungary in 2020 is quite independent in its thinking. This video from David Irving explains why that is so. This video goes along with what I noted about Poland. The same happened in Hungary, many Hungarian Jews went to the Soviet Union. Many came back after the war to take top spots in the Communist regime in Hungary.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  365. Robjil says:

    Here is the transcript of this video by David Irving about the 1956 Hungarian uprising.

    Irving’s response to the disruptive Jews goes right to the heart of “The Jewish Question,” a question that they collectively refuse to ever ask, and even more certainly will always refuse to answer:

    A book I wrote in about 1975 was….the history of the Hungarian Uprising against the communist occupation of Hungary, for which I had access to a certain number of C.I.A. files, which are very interesting because the C.I.A. carried out in-depth psychological interrogations of a large the Hungarian refugees who came to this country after 1956.

    The Hungarian uprising of 1956 started as an anti-Jewish revolution.

    And there was no doubt in my mind, a very interesting discovery indeed, which I wasn’t aware of until I began investigating that. I didn’t realize this. The reason I began writing a book about the Hungarian Uprising was entirely irrelevant. I decided to write a book about something other than Hitler and the Third Reich just to show that I wasn’t in a rut.

    But the odd thing was when I began writing that book, I discovered from the C.I.A. files that the Hungarian people, when they started that uprising, it began as an anti-Jewish pogrom. It was essentially an anti-Jewish revolution, not an anti-communist revolution to begin with for the first few days.

    This is the same thing that happened in Poland. A lot of Hungarian Jews went to the Soviet Union. Many came back after the war to get top jobs in the communist regime in Hungary.

    The Hungarian people regarded their government in the 1950s as being a jewish government, and they regarded the secret police, the dreaded [AVH] as being a jewish secret police, and essentially it was because when the Red Army entered Hungary in 1945, they brought back into Hungary all the Jews who had taken refuge in the Soviet Union, and they were the ones who got the plum jobs, and they were the ones who got the trustworthy jobs, the secret police chiefs and the torturers.

    Most of the “Hungarian” leaders in the Communist regime were Jews.

    And that’s why the Jews were so hated in Hungary by 1956 because they were regarded as the people who had inflicted this nameless misery on the Hungarian people, and so the Uprising began as an anti-Jewish uprising.

    Every one of the ‘Hungarian’ leaders at that time in 1956….they were all Jews, and I never realized that when I set out to write it. It was an extraordinary fact the way these things are kept away from the public consciousness.

    This is main problem with Jewish power. The power of silence. Things that are brought in the light of day whither away. This is the main problem of our time. Jewish power grows in silence, it feeds on growing in darkness. Humanity needs justice. All things should be brought to light. A criminal is a criminal is a criminal no matter who they are.

    And, of course, when the book came out, I was accused of ‘antisemitism’, but what am I supposed to do when you discover something, as a historian, are you supposed to pretend that it isn’t that? And if you do pretend that, you are doing the Jewish people more harm than good, I think.

    [Irving then tells how a group of Jews tried to disrupt one of his lectures in Louisiana…]

    I know — I said to this Jewish mob in my audience — that I am disliked, and I know why I’m disliked. Now you people have been disliked for 3,000 years. Do you ever look in the mirror and ask yourselves why you are disliked?….They never ask themselves that question, do they?

    He was the leader of the [disruptive Jewish gang in the audience], and he said, “Are you accusing us? Are you saying that we are responsible for Auschwitz ourselves?” And it was a bit of a dazzling question, and I said, “Well, the short answer is yes.”

    The whole world is getting the shaft from Jewish power these days.

    But that’s a cruel answer because to do the question justice, you’ve got to have a lot of intervening stages, of course. But the short answer, if you want to hop from A to Z, is yes. If you hadn’t behaved the way you have as a race for 3,000 years, first the Russians, then the Poles, then the Galicians, then the Austrians and the rest wouldn’t have harried and hounded you from pillar to post so you end up finding yourselves at Auschwitz. And you’ve never asked yourselves, “Why?”

  366. annamaria says:

    “That does not, however, prove in any way that there was no Holocaust, or that the Auschwitz gas chambers Himmler destroyed in late 44 never existed.”

    — If you (and the likes) are so sure about holocaust and gas chambers, then why have you been so rabidly opposed to any honest investigation of the holocaust and gas chambers? Your kind has been imprisoning and even killing the honest researchers, all while working on the suppression of freedom of information in the western world.

    The GULAG did happen. The Holodomor did happen. The leading role of Jewish Bolsheviks (and Jewish financiers) in committing unimaginable crimes against humanity in Russia is a historical fact. Yet, these facts are suppressed (do you know by whom and why?)

    As for holocaust, it has been a profiteering schema of Holobiz. Whether AIPAC, the ADL (a monstrosity created in the name of a rapist and murderer Leo Frank), or the Jewish State — all these Jewish entities have been in cahoots with the worst of the worst. See the Israeli rifles in the hands of Ukrainian neo-Nazis and the tacit support of the neo-Nazis by the Lobby.

    Either the Jewish Community at large allows and supports the investigation of what (and why) has happened during WWII, or your protestations are deeply dishonest.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @erzberger
  367. Robjil says:

    This is another paper of Jewish refugees during WWII going through Soviet Union and from there to other places. Ironically, Iran was one of the central places for these refugees. From Iran, they went all over the world.

    5. Levin suggests that 300,000 to 350,000 Jews from Nazi-occupied Poland had “found refuge” in the Soviet zone, but she acknowledges that “it is impossible to know the exact number” Jews in the Soviet Union(

    , 342). Current research is leading to even more debate about statistics. Generally, the deportation raids came during the night, with two hours to pack forty kilograms of belongings. Some Jews from Sovietized Baltic countries, Bessarabia, and northern Bukovina were also deported.

    At the time, however, the more critical issue was, as the JDC envoy urgently noted, “the hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees still in Russia—whether they remain there or eventually are evacuated.”

    Teheran, it became rapidly clear, could become the center for a relief operation

    , but it would have to focus on shipping vital goods for consumption and trading to the much larger number of Jews (he was estimating two to three hundred thousand, but the figures vary in virtually every report) trying to make it through the war in the Soviet Union. Interestingly, the JDC recognized in this condential report that the success of the planned extensive relief effort emanating from Middle Eastern countries would depend on the JDC’s “not be[ing] suspected of Zionist or any political activities,” a position that would lead to ongoing conflicts with the Jewish Agency and ultimately would shift only in the aftermath of the Holocaust.

    In sum, the path traversed by European Jews from Poland to Siberia, central Asia, and Iran, and back to Poland in 1945, followed by renewed flight and displacement to US-occupied Germany (and Austria and Italy)—from Teheran and Tashkent to Berlin and Bavaria—and continued movement to the United States, Israel, parts of the British Commonwealth in Australia, Canada, and South Africa,

    as well as to almost all other corners of the globe, renders the history of the Holocaust, its refugees and survivors, transnational and multidirectional in new ways.


  368. augusto says:

    Yes, Trengi, me too.
    I wish to send my congratulations to Frau Haverbeck.
    An authentic German , as they say nowadays, sheroe.
    But is her fate already decided by Frau Merkels pompous Chukruten judges?
    She is not in any way prone to abaondon her ideas on the holocaust legend… So will any Merkel s
    subject subrepticiouly slip her a cyanide capsule – before she is sent to the gallows?
    That s what happened to Hermann Goering, by coincidence the only defiant German in Nuremberg 75 years ago.

  369. @Spirit of the Fighting 69th

    “To deny the mass murder of the Jews is absurd”

    The burden of proof should be on the claimants, not the skeptics. I have seen nothing convincing that there was any systematic murder of non-combatant Jews.

  370. SCW says:

    The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering is a 2000 book by Norman Finkelstein, in which the author argues that the American Jewish establishment exploits the memory of the Nazi Holocaust for political and financial gain, as well as to further the interests of Israel. According to Finkelstein, this “Holocaust industry” has corrupted Jewish culture and the authentic memory of the Holocaust.

  371. Having noticed the picture of this old woman again while glancing through the latest Unz review articles, I’m moved to make another comment on it. For a so called democratic country to do something like this to a 92 year old woman is so despicable, that it makes many communist and fascist nations look tame by comparison. It’s hard to even find the right words to express the disgust one feels..The German word “wahnninnig”(insane) might do.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  372. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Sorry……the German word is spelled wahnsinnig….I typed an extra n rather than the correct s.

  373. annamaria says:

    Why Frau Haverbeck is hated so much by the ‘chosen’ (Financial Squid):
    The comment section, by Kapricorn4:

    When Hitler came to power in 1933, the country was completely, hopelessly broke. The Treaty of Versailles had imposed crushing reparations payments on the German people, who were expected to reimburse the costs of the war for all participants — costs totaling three times the value of all the property in the country. People were living in hovels and starving. Nothing quite like it had ever happened before – the total destruction of the national currency, wiping out people’s savings, their businesses and the economy generally. Making matters worse, at the end of the decade global depression hit. Germany had no choice but to succumb to debt slavery to international lenders.

    Or so it seemed. Hitler and the National Socialists, who came to power in 1933, thwarted the international banking cartel by issuing their own money. In this, they took their cue from Abraham Lincoln, who funded the American Civil War with government-issued paper money called “Greenbacks.” Hitler began his national credit program by devising a plan of public works. Projects earmarked for funding included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new buildings, roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities. The projected cost of the various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency.

    One billion non-inflationary bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates, were then issued against this cost. Millions of people were put to work on these projects, and the workers were paid with the Treasury Certificates. This government-issued money wasn’t backed by gold, but it was backed by something of real value. It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, “for every mark that was issued we required the equivalent of a mark’s worth of work done or goods produced.” The workers then spent the Certificates on other goods and services, creating more jobs for more people.

    Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved and the country was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries were still out of work and living on welfare. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, although it was denied foreign credit and was faced with an economic boycott abroad. It did this by using a barter system: equipment and commodities were exchanged directly with other countries, circumventing the international banks. This system of direct exchange occurred without debt and without trade deficits.

    Germany’s economic experiment, like Lincoln’s, was short-lived; but it left some lasting monuments to its success, including the famous Autobahn, the world’s first extensive superhighway. …

    In Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People (1984), Sheldon Emry commented: “Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 and on, accounting for its startling rise from the depression to a world power in 5 years. Germany financed its entire government and war operation from 1935 to 1945 without gold and without debt, and it took the whole Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German power over Europe and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers.” Such a history of money does not even appear in the textbooks of public (government) schools today.

    The Holobiz has a dual purpose: 1. as a profiteering schema benefiting Jews and Jews only and 2. as malicious mythology to suppress the information about the post-WWI Germany’s resurrection achieved outside the bloody racketeering of Financial Squid (“the heel of the Bankers”). No wonder the mega war criminals — Banksters — took so much effort to demonize Adolf Hitler and the German nation.

    • Thanks: Robjil, anarchyst
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  374. anarchyst says:

    Henry Ford had the same idea…
    Henry Ford paid his people \$5.00 per day, when the average wage was about \$1.50 per day. This was done in order to stabilize his workforce, but was also done as Ford believed that his workers should be able to afford his products.

    Henry Ford realized that paying people a decent wage would come back to reward him immensely. Of course, the wall street banksters howled in protest, stating that Ford’s high wages would “destroy capitalism” as they knew it…Henry Ford mistrusted banks and knew of their destructive potential. His writings have stated as such.

    Henry Ford had a great part in establishing a “middle class” and was instrumental in helping quell the “class warfare” that was evident in other parts of the world.

    The “pointy-headed intellectuals” in our “business schools”, colleges and universities have lost sight of the fact that a well-functioning economy requires a consumer base that is able to afford the consumer products available to them.

    It helps to have the products produced by the very consumers that eventually purchase them…in today’s business schools, the stockholder is looked upon as the one entity that must be “stroked” at all costs…the balance that is required for an economic system to flourish is ignored…a well-functioning economic system is like a three-legged stool that requires consumer/employees, investors/consumers.employees, and financial backers, also consumers,employees,investors to properly function.

    Take the employees out of the equation and you have the mess that we are in today.

    Labor is looked upon as a a liability or financial loss–not to be assigned any true worth (value).

    Hitler had the right idea by assigning labor value…something that is missing in capitalist societies today.

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  375. @anarchyst

    Only China is walking the walk and implementing National Socialist policies. North Korea also.
    The rest of the old “allied” shitholes are just a bunch of cheap broadway production. It is what they deserve though.
    The seething anglo, slavs, mutts and kikes here just validate all that Hitler said regarding governing and economies. Too bad he sucked up to the island monkeys because of his later warped foreign outlooks. National Socialism should have been the worldwide adopted ideology, not (((capitalism))) and (((communism))).
    Oh well, when it all go down, the worthy people will know what to do.
    Can’t wait to take a dump on arlington and take a leak on soviet statues. I already did it though, kek

  376. GeeBee says:

    Sounds like yet another Jewish tale of impossible cruelty. It has been more than amply demonstrated that any camp staff performing even mild acts against inmates (slapping a prisoner’s face for example) was severely dealt with. The whole point of these camps was to provide a more humane environment than prison, and thus inmates were well fed and looked after. Against this, the claims of these lying Jews are shown to be ludicrous fabrications. As for shovelling shit into food, this is absolutely typical of the sort of thing dreamt up by these people.

    You might very well go to your grave believing this nonsense from this (I’ll warrant, Jewish) lady. Others among us have long ago ripped off the veil on this litany of calculated lies that continues to sap the strength of the entire White race, ruthlessly employed as these lies (and indeed liars such as your Ms Reed) are by those who benefit from them.

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  377. @annamaria

    You mean there’s a difference?

  378. erzberger says:

    If you (and the likes) are so sure about holocaust and gas chambers, then why have you been so rabidly opposed to any honest investigation of the holocaust and gas chambers? Your kind has been imprisoning and even killing the honest researchers, all while working on the suppression of freedom of information in the western world.

    Where have I advocated against “honest investigation”, or for imprisoning or killing people for their views , even if I don’t agree with them?

    Nowhere. Never. Nor do I hold the view that the Holocaust is just about gas chambers.

    You are being dishonest, and that’s why you are no better than the people you hate and condemn. I said it before here, and I’ll repeat it for you: Basically I learned that both the Holocaust promoters (worst crime in human history) and Holocaust deniers (Holohoaxers) are insane instrumentalizers, for their own varied purposes. I wish they’d both shut up already but I recognize the universal right to free speech. I certainly don’t think that all of the former are self-serving Jews, and all of the latter enlightened non-Jews. A nonsense that seems to be an article of faith around here.

    I recognize that the Holocaust denial movement grew on lies about the Holocaust, a fact recognized by virtually all Holocaust scholars. To jump to the conclusion that it’s all lies is, however, not supported by facts either. Just more lies.

  379. erzberger says:

    You made valid points against my comparison. But it’s not just Russia. What about Poland where it is now illegal to make any statements that might dishonour the Polish people?

    How does Turkey handle the Armenian genocide?

  380. The camps in Poland were taken by the Russians, those in Western Germany were relieved by allies. As to the question of gas chambers, look at the 1st Ernst Zundel trial. During which it was revealed that at Auswitch no evidence of cyanide was found in the alleged chamber. Fact: Russia rebuilt and fabricated the buildings, adding prop chimneys etc. Gassing did not happen

  381. profnasty says:

    I am become Jew,
    the destroyer of worlds.

  382. profnasty says:

    Um, it occurs to me she may have intended sarcasm.
    I was fooled.

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