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It’s past 2 AM and the results of the Iowa caucus are still not in.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez is being blamed. The Iowa caucusers relied on an app that is apparently malfunctioning, leading to Bernie Bro speculation that the plutocrats who control the DNC simply don’t like the results and are simply stealing the election.

Perez has shown a willingness to engage in corruption, embodied by his decision to change the debating rules so super-billionaire Michael Bloomberg can qualify. Bloomberg wrote a number of big checks to the DNC shortly before jumping into the race.

It’s noteworthy that the two states Bernie Sanders is predicted to win, Iowa and New Hampshire, have overwhelming white majorities. Some media commentators have declared that the whiteness of these voters makes the results, expected to be a resounding rejection of neo-liberal “Clinton Democrats,” illegitimate.

The two states are known for their politically engaged voters. Bernie Sanders, who has been involved in legislation since 1990, has a mostly consistent political record, and white Democrats are bound to reward him for it.

Clout Over Ideas

Bernie has spent enormous amounts of money on minority outreach after Hillary rode the brown wave to victory in 2016. The results are mixed. In South Carolina, company man Joe Biden is slated to get 46% of the black vote to Bernie’s 12%. In Nevada, “latinos” are also expected to bolster Biden’s mailed-in zombie campaign, with the former Vice President tying Bernie at 24% in this demographic. If these polls are accurate, the gatekeepers of Zionist and capitalist power at CNN and the New York Times will claim these results are more legitimate due to being more “diverse.”

On the periphery, Michael Bloomberg’s record-shattering primary spending in majority-minority cities has made him a serious contender. A poll released February 2nd shows Bloomberg, a non-starter in Iowa and New Hampshire (a calculated choice he made to snub politically engaged white voters despite the financial ability to campaign 100 times over), polling just a few points behind Elizabeth Warren in 4th place, with 12% support.

Bernie has a very long track record of championing minorities, from getting arrested at Civil Rights marches to endorsing Al Sharpton’s radical 1988 presidential campaign. But seeing as Joe Biden and Michael Bloomberg have both personally overseen (common sense) law and order policies that have put massive amounts of blacks in prison, it’s clear non-white voters are more responsive to clout than authenticity.

Joe Biden is seen as the first black president’s homie. Bloomberg has been able to buy support from numerous black sellouts, like Muriel Bowser, Michael Nutter and London Breed. Bernie has “the Squad,” but AOC and Ilhan Omar have a largely white-leftist fan base. Both Biden and Bloomberg have the support of the Democratic party machine, which has a network of ethnic-agents that whip non-whites to the polls for establishment favored candidates. Bloomberg himself has invested $20 million dollars to tap into this network and register hundreds of thousands of largely non-white voters in key states.

Conservative commentators have tried to claim that non-whites are ideological more “moderate,” and while this might be true on some issues when polled separately, it isn’t manifesting itself in respects to viable “centrist” candidates like Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg, both polling at 0% with blacks. The loyalty of black and brown influencers is the kingmaker with this crowd.

White Privilege: A Capitalist Trick

The elite forces looking to block Bernie’s nomination have honed in on what they perceive as the shallowness of minority voters. The New York Times pressed Bernie to atone for his “white privilege,” only for him to turn around and attack American oligarchy instead. This was earned Bernie criticism from blacks representing neo-liberal NGOs and pressure groups, like LaTosha Brown of Black Voters Matter and Rashad Robinson of Color of Change.

In contrast, Bloomberg has been making lots of noise about his own “white privilege” on the campaign trail. The Jewish finance-capitalist made his $60 billion dollar fortune through New York City ethnic networks not available to white Gentiles, but charades like this shift the blame for poor economic prospects away from the vultures raking in record profits in Manhattan and onto blue collar white workers of the Rust Belt and South being killed in record numbers by deaths of despair.

Even if Bernie is able to jump the hurdle of colored voting blocs, he will be faced by ideological flaws in the modern left that make disciplining capital and challenging the powerful impossible.

The white privilege scam, for example, gaslights some whites into seeing diminishing white economic prospects into thinking it is their own fault. Race based affirmative action seeks to pad America’s 10-15% elite with more “diversity” by integrating the wealthiest blacks and Mexicans to create the fictitious impression of a meritocracy, but average people of all races do not see the benefits. Ordinary white people have become racial scapegoats.

The factors that have led to the collapse of the middle class have specifically hit white people the hardest: financialization of the economy, liberalization of trade that allows companies to ship millions of manufacturing jobs abroad, and mass immigration that insources indentured and illegal slave labor.

The ruling class in America tells white people specifically that falling standards of living are due to a lack of a college education or vocational skills and non-whites that it’s due to the racism of these white people, but most of the jobs in America’s service sector economy do not require a college degree or special training.

Adding insult to injury, white privilege theory gives exploiters the cover to declare that the job sectors seeing some of the biggest growth – home health aides, food preparation, agriculture, even STEM – are jobs “Americans don’t want to do” or aren’t “qualified” to do.

Studies have shown that employers actively discriminate against white workers for immigrants not because the quality of the work is superior, but out of fear that whites will try to collectively bargain or demand decent wages. Native born blacks are also impacted by this process more than the imaginary abstraction of “institutional racism.”

Sweden and the Open Borders Left

Bernie has been a life-long skeptic of mass immigration, as any true socialist should be. The downside of this in 2016 was that organizations that specialize in getting non-whites to the polls broke for Hillary.

This time around, Bernie is making a calculated choice to lose some white working class support in exchange for trying to get representatives of minority voting blocs on his team.

His absurd campaign promise, to somehow expand the social state and embark on mass unionization while basically having total open borders, has won him the backing of one such globalist advocacy group, “Make the Road.” Make The Road is a very well-funded “community organization” that is run by a Jew named Deborah Axt, and focuses on getting people from Mexico and Central America involved in policy making and electoral engagement.

The open borders left, which now effectively runs Bernie’s campaign and the left at large, has claimed that concerns of mass third world immigration negatively impacting living standards can be reconciled by organizing them into labor unions.

This theory is based on no empirical data or historic precedent. Implementing the agenda of replacing native white workers with massive numbers of aliens is perhaps the biggest capitalist victory over the left in recent memory.

The perfect example is Sweden, which on paper is the perfect laboratory for this theory. The nation is a “humanitarian superpower” known for its virtual open borders, unusually racially tolerant citizens, and high rates of labor union organizing that are institutionally supported.

Yet ever since the country opened its doors, labor union participation is in a freefall. 80% of Swedes aged 45-64, older and whiter, are unionized, while only 56% of the highly diverse 24-29 labor force is a member of a syndicate or collective bargaining organization. For those still in unions, the process of “social dumping” of immigrants to Sweden has given employers all the power in negotiations and made the tripartite process a joke. The left, wedded to open borders, has in turn lost its working class support, leading to right-wing liberals campaigning on mild immigration restrictions, putting the entire political balance of the nation into disarray as everyone but a select few get poorer.

The left must choose between liberal virtue signaling or worker’s rights. When countries become less white via state sponsored replacement, worker’s rights are the first to suffer while alienation takes hold. When met with these obvious concerns, the Judeo-left retreats to Adorno and Hofstadter and declares the people they’re supposed to be fighting for, the laboring classes, as mentally ill “xenophobes” whose grievances are illegitimate and should be silenced.

But reality doesn’t play by the made up rules of Jew psychologists, professional activists and academics. The simple truth Bernie’s fans will have to face, regardless if he wins or not, is that you will never have socialism without nationalism.

(Republished from National Justice by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anonymous[237] • Disclaimer says:

    when did Adorno and Hofstaedter declare the working class to be mentally ill xenophobes?

  2. Do you how impossible it to migrate from Africa all the way to Sweden

    The entire concept of non western migration IS impossible

    Refugees = deportation when war ends

    1960- Labor migrants & family reunification

    No further options

    This has always been this way

    But fake pics and outrage provides

    Election campaign extravaganza

    “Immigration laws blabla borders”

    Recycle ♻️

  3. Another ringer from Eric! He’s fast becoming one of my favorite authors here at Unz, which, in turn, is now one of my favorite websites.

    The Iowa caucusers relied on an app that is apparently malfunctioning, leading to Bernie Bro speculation that the plutocrats who control the DNC simply don’t like the results and are simply stealing the election.

    Sounds like a Mexican election. The DNC should be renamed the PRI.

    But seeing as Joe Biden and Michael Bloomberg have both personally overseen (common sense) law and order policies that have put massive amounts of blacks in prison, it’s clear non-white voters are more responsive to clout than authenticity.

    I don’t know. Most minorities are not paying attention to the race yet. But a few months from now, just let Bernie and Bloomie onto the same stage of a debate, and see what happens when Bernie criticizes Bloomie for being a big fan of the ‘stop-and-frisk’ policy when he was mayor. That might change some Black minds.

    In contrast, Bloomberg has been making lots of noise about his own “white privilege” on the campaign trail.

    Can you say crypsis, boys and girls?

    Ordinary white people have become racial scapegoats.

    We are the new Kulaks. The reason why minorities are starving to death is because the White working-class is hoarding all the grain to sell on the black market./SARCASM

    And thanks for the reality check on Sweden, Eric. When liberals like Bernie say ‘Sweden,’ what they actually mean is ‘Sweden 40 years ago.’ My contacts there tell me you wouldn’t recognize the country today.

  4. anonymous[106] • Disclaimer says:

    Sanders, Biden, Warren, Bloomberg are all well past retirement age and would probably die in office. Their vice-presidential picks need to be looked at. Buttigieg is declaring victory in Iowa. Is he the chosen one? Was the heavy homo presence on the SuperBowl commercials/entertainment a way of softening up the public for a gay president?

  5. Altai says:

    I’m trying to find the quote but there was a Swedish sociologists or economist who was very worried and just said they need to remove all the labour protections and standards to get the ‘New Swedes’ into work. The labour standards that took decades of blood, sweat and tears by the ‘Old Swedes’ to get for themselves and their children. People have no idea how hard it was to get these things, we’ve already accepted they ‘won’t be coming back’.

    No doubt though that the mass unionisation of immigrants will help to reduce the reduction (Not remove it, immigration hurts in more ways than just reduced wages and any unions won’t be able to get back to the old wage anyway) in living standards though, but if not accompanied by an end to immigration. It’s like having a policy of bailing water out of a boat whilst also having a policy of drilling lots of more holes in the bottom.

    • Replies: @Anon
  6. Good article in general.
    I would go a little further on the Bernie “socialist” scale. Bernie isn’t even a “social democrat”. The (incorrect) take on social democrats is that they are ok with the existing system, but they just want to tax the system for social benefits.
    While Bernie may ave been “a life-long skeptic of mass immigration”, I suggest that any honest look at immigration rates of Sweden, Norway and Denmark before the big push for “multiculturalism” of the late 60s and early 70s, demonstrate not only an opposition to mass immigration, but immigration in general. To the “old” social democrats, immigration was correctly seen as an economic issue. If your goal is full employment, why import people when your own are unemployed? That is extrapolated to the educational system. If business claims that foreigners are needed for “special skills”, either there is a flaw in the education system that needs to be corrected, or the employers are not prepared to invest in their own employees to train them. The correction can be made to the educational system if that is the problem, but why reward employers for failing to invest in their own workforce, if it isn’t?

  7. Ron Unz says:

    Actually, I don’t think that the political analysis in this column is correct…

    For example, I live in California and closely follow the politics here. The most recent statewide poll shows that Sanders has surged into a strong 26%-20% lead over Warren, with Biden down at a distant third at 15%.

    Most of Sanders’ lead is coming from his exceptionally strong numbers among Latinos, where he leads both Biden and Warren by 20 points or more. By contrast, Sanders, Warren, and Biden are all pretty close together among non-Hispanic white Democrats, while Sanders and Warren are tied among Asians, very far ahead of Biden. (The CA black population is pretty small, but Sanders is doing well there).

    https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2rv4c7zk

    Obviously, these results are the exact opposite of what would be suggested by this article, and given California’s enormous size and huge Latino/Asian populations, probably much better reflects the entire country than whatever is happening with the tiny number of Latinos/Asians in Iowa.

    It’s obvious that the main reason for this Hispanic/Asian skew for Sanders in CA is that Hispanics and Asians are much, much younger than CA whites. That’s the reason they support Sanders while the whites are relatively stronger for Biden. Basically, Latino and Asian Democrats behave pretty much like white Democrats of the same age and gender, but since they’re younger, they support Sanders along with younger whites.

    The broader problem highlighted by this serious error is that a huge fraction of the right-wing-types are totally clueless about the actual situation in California because they tend to get all their information from ridiculous sources like Breitbart and VDare (plus some of the writers on this website!).

    Basically, white Europeans in California are now down to about 30-35% of the total population, with Hispanics being a solid 40% plurality headed towards an eventual majority and Asians at 15%.

    However, despite all the nonsense by Breitbart/Trump, there’s virtually no racial/ethnic conflict in the state, probably less than at almost any time during the last half-century, going back to when California was one of the whitest states in America.

    Instead, politics over the last dozen years has gotten exceptionally bland and boring, with most of the battles being over housing/zoning or traffic or that sort of thing. So when right-wingers or WN-types say otherwise, everyone in CA regards them as a bunch of total lunatics. And since the big Tech companies are based here, it’s easier to persuade them to ban those lunatics from the Internet.

    As a good sense of the current political climate in CA, here are a couple of very recent pieces by Dan Walters and George Skelton, leading CA political columnists who’ve been around for 35-odd years. They’re “hard-boiled” and syndicated in my local paper, so I follow them:

    One of Walter’s most recent columns focused on the bitter “turf” issues between the CA Community Colleges and the California State Colleges, whose disputes have ongoing since the late 1950s:

    https://calmatters.org/commentary/community-college-bachelors-degrees/

    Meanwhile, Skelton had a column on the legislative attempt of nurse practioners to gain independence from their supervising physicians:

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-01-30/skelton-california-nurse-practitioners-bill

    Back in 2011, I published a long article on the political/demographic issues in California and the entire country, and I think things have panned out almost exactly the way I had suggested they would:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    The problem with saying things that are totally contrary to reality is that you gradually lose your credibility…

  8. @Anonymous

    For Adorno and company that would in The Authoritarian Personality. A study that was a part of a larger work: Studies in Prejudice, or something like that. A research project finance by a major Jewish organization. I believe it might have even been the American Jewish Congress. For Jewish historian of America history, Richard Hofstaedter, the work in question would be The Paranoid Style in American Politics.

    • Replies: @trill
    , @James Forrestal
  9. Sparrow says:

    All of them are Israel firsters…ALL. We can write till the cows come home but until this 6 million lb foreign elephant with its peanut feeders is completely removed from every corner of this nation, the hand wringing won’t stop. Period. The usurpation of our Constitution, the Bill of Rights to include obeying International Law…has been completed. So ‘voting’ for imaginary leaders who hissss and kissss all the way to the ME, killing and occupying as they go will never change until the unsustainable debt comes crashing in like a giant bowling ball knocking down everything built upon it. These corrupt manipulated sold out peanut feeders still seem to beguile the dumbed down audience having been conditioned for so damn long.

    • Agree: neutral
  10. Miro23 says:

    The simple truth Bernie’s fans will have to face, regardless if he wins or not, is that you will never have socialism without nationalism.

    Quite true, open borders and socialism are a contradiction. Socialism is based on community trust – which doesn’t come from mass immigration and multiculturalism. Also Social Nationalism sounds a lot better than National Socialism.

  11. @Ron Unz

    I can’t speak about the political analysis but I can say after reading Sanders’ website, he is definitely for open borders. He clearly says he wants to make border crossings a civil action rather than a criminal one. Decriminalizing border crossing technically means you can not even set up the equivalent of school crossing guard. Hyperbole of course. But when you make something a civil action, you have no probable cause to stop any border crosser unless he or she commits something that is criminal in nature such as a traffic violation of some kind.

    From the website:

    “As president, Bernie Sanders would treat border crossings as a civil matter, and fundamentally reform the government agencies tasked with enforcing immigration law to ensure our immigration agencies and officers are serving a humanitarian mission, not a law enforcement one.”

    Will this piss off white America? Damn straight.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  12. Ron Unz says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    I can’t speak about the political analysis but I can say after reading Sanders’ website, he is definitely for open borders.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/a-grand-bargain-on-immigration-reform-2/#p_1_6

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @A123
  13. @Ron Unz

    How well I know. I was a supporter last time. Not this one. Been a Democrat all of my life.

    As a lawyer I take seriously the fourth reason listed in the Preamble to the Constitution for founding the union: to promote the general welfare. That clause was written 50 years before Marx.

    I do think we need Medicare for All, although since I have Medicare, I know Medicare has it’s problems. I also know that if Medicare for All is like Medicare, we will still have private insurance available to get better coverage if we want it. A Medicare Supplemental policy by a private insurance company is almost a necessity. Medicare for All will be a floor not a ceiling.

    I actually like Yang’s UBI. I think we are going to need it as robots and androids and computers take over what humans can do. I also think it will be a real boon to rural communities and keep them alive when they would otherwise die.

    I hate this state of perpetual war but feel totally powerless to do anything about it.

    I am in political limbo now.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @JackOH
    , @bjondo
  14. Bloomberg, a non-starter in Iowa and New Hampshire (a calculated choice he made to snub politically engaged white voters despite the financial ability to campaign 100 times over)

    You need volunteers to succeed in Iowa and New Hampshire. Employees won’t cut it. In addition, Iowa has caucuses– a major time commitment.

    Bloomberg knows he inspires nobody.

    Bernie has a very long track record of championing minorities, from getting arrested at Civil Rights marches…

    …followed by settling in the whitest state in the Union. What does that tell you?

    Bernie has been a life-long skeptic of mass immigration, as any true socialist should be.

    The true socialist’s goal is total, unanswered power. They are shrewd enough to see that immigration is the surest route to that summit. As Brecht said, “Elect a new people.”

    The white privilege scam, for example, gaslights some whites into seeing diminishing white economic prospects into thinking it is their own fault.

    Inasmuch as they vote in these evil clowns, it is in large part their own fault. The last Democrat to carry a majority of the white vote had just pushed through radical civil rights and immigration legislation.

    …and high rates of labor union organizing that are institutionally supported.

    Traditionally, all the employers and the union(s) in a field would be locked in a room to hammer things out. This gave the employers a fighting chance. In other words, the opposite of socialism.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @Nonny Mouse
  15. @davidgmillsatty

    I actually like Yang’s UBI. I think we are going to need it as robots and androids and computers take over what humans can do. I also think it will be a real boon to rural communities and keep them alive when they would otherwise die.

    I initially mis-read this part and was going to object, but I have to agree.  Mechanization of farming is what emptied out the countryside in the first place; when reapers and then combines replaced men with scythes, literally millions had no productive work on farms and had to go elsewhere just to survive (“Grapes of Wrath”‘s being “tractored off the land” writ large).  If people are going to live in the country, they have to have some means of support.

    But it’s going to have to be bigger than that.  We’re going to have to start charging employment taxes on ALL automation in proportion to productivity of humans doing the same jobs.  This is one situation where not even Bill Gates is thinking big enough.

    We are going to have to limit these benefits to people CAPABLE of being productive, because the third-world hordes who can’t produce anything save mouths to feed will swamp any such system if we don’t.  This is going to be a much bigger and harder job than just getting a UBI.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  16. @Reg Cæsar

    Inasmuch as they vote in these evil clowns, it is in large part their own fault. The last Democrat to carry a majority of the white vote had just pushed through radical civil rights and immigration legislation.

    You can only blame people if they had a meaningful choice in the matter.  When the situation is Boss Tweed’s “I don’t care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating”, or candidates lie outright about what they’ll do in office, the voters can’t be held responsible for the results.  For that you need recall elections, or even more drastic measures.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  17. tanabear says:
    @Ron Unz

    Instead, politics over the last dozen years has gotten exceptionally bland and boring, with most of the battles being over housing/zoning or traffic or that sort of thing. So when right-wingers or WN-types say otherwise, everyone in CA regards them as a bunch of total lunatics. And since the big Tech companies are based here, it’s easier to persuade them to ban those lunatics from the Internet.

    Politics does tend to get bland and boring when you largely have one party control. Politics in some of our more violent municipalities, such as Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore, might be boring but much of these areas are unlivable. Political parties can act as checks on each other by preventing too much dysfunction. If one party screws up really bad the voters can elect another. However, once a political zone is dominated by one party, and it no longer has to worry about competition from another party, this is when corruption, mismanagement and lassitude set in.

    California is largely a one party state today. It is called the Golden State, but today it would be more apt to call it the Garbage Dump State. California has the lowest quality of life compared to any other US state. San Francisco has one of the highest property crime rates in the nation, Los Angeles looks like a third world city, the state is bottom of the barrel in education and it has 1/3rd of all welfare recipients.

    Most citizens aren’t interested in politics, but they are interested in society. By focusing on politics instead of society Ron can pretend that no great disaster has befallen California.

  18. @tanabear

    Agree. Navigating the corridors of California today is tantamount to being in prison with the invisible lines drawn all over the state. Being in the know regarding the areas that are off limits can mean the difference between life and death. All while seeing the tax dollars being burned on alters of diversity.

  19. Cyrano says:

    There are 2 main types of Socialism. 1.Capitalist Socialism 2. Socialist Socialism. Obviously, number 1 is way more advanced and sophisticated than number 2.

    Let me explain what the main differences are between these 2 leading contenders for best socialism ever.

    The main preoccupation for both of these types is equality. And this is exactly where they start to differ. The socialist socialism is so 19th century – backward and unimaginative. Their main preoccupation was wealth inequality. How boring is that? While the Capitalist Socialism showed way more imagination when tackling inequality.

    Here is the list of all the inequalities that the Capitalist socialism wrestled over the years – and in my opinion has won decisive victories over each one of them:

    Racial inequality, gender inequality, sexual orientation (or even disorientation for that matter), age inequality, inequality suffered by women who refuse to wear high heels. Inequality based on disability, and on and on. Obviously the Capitalist Socialism is superior. No surprise there. Since it was created by democracy, it was given that it will prevail.

    Some might say that all that is fine and dandy, but how come the capitalist socialism failed to even consider tackling the inequality which was the main focus of the socialist socialism – the wealth inequality.

    I think the answer is obvious, wealth inequality exists because there is difference in capabilities between individuals. In other words – wealth inequality is genetic and cannot be touched. All the other types of inequalities are man-made and can be successfully addressed and dealt with. I know that there are some sceptics out there, who might think: “But isn’t the humanism of the capitalist socialism superior even to genetics” – in other words, couldn’t capitalist socialism defeat even the differences that evolution created?

    I think that’s pure blasphemy. The capitalist socialism is so busy searching for new inequalities – sometimes even to the point of inventing ones – that they surely can be forgiven for overlooking such a minor and unimportant inequality from the past – wealth inequality. I am sure that the effort that capitalist socialism is putting into tackling every possible inequality will likely produce some astonishing results in the near future.

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if – for example – the capitalist socialism managed to address the inequality that cockroaches suffer in their relations with humans. For no apparent reason they get squashed every time they encounter a human. Is that fair? They’ve been on this planet millions of years longer than the humans, and I think that they deserve some respect. They should be the next on the list to receive equality certificate from the capitalist socialism.

  20. @Ron Unz

    ‘However, despite all the nonsense by Breitbart/Trump, there’s virtually no racial/ethnic conflict in the state, probably less than at almost any time during the last half-century, going back to when California was one of the whitest states in America..’

    Ahem. It is possible that rates of ethnic violence in California have declined of late, but they certainly hadn’t as of twenty years ago, and I see no reason why they would have since. I recall the well-papered over but still very real irruptions of ghetto blacks onto BART a few years back, where gangs of ‘teens’ robbed commuters of their cell phones etc en masse.

    There was and I’m fairly sure still is a great deal of racial/ethnic conflict in California, it’s just that (a) it’s well covered up, and (b) it’s often between Hispanics and blacks, or blacks and Asians, or Asians and Hispanics rather than between any of these three and whites.

    I don’t want to resume arguing with you, but as an affluent white, you wouldn’t really come into contact with much of this, would you?

    During the LA riots, Korean riflemen weren’t shooting at whites; they were shooting at blacks. One of the consolations of no longer being an ethnic majority is that it’s no longer all about us.

    It also implies that ethnic conflict is no longer a reason to not vote for whitey. As I say, it’s no longer necessarily all about us.

  21. utu says:

    “…you will never have socialism without nationalism…” – As sound as a mathematical truth.

    Equally one could demonstrate that there is no stable nationalism possible in the economic laissez-faire environment.

    So if Bernie Sanders is holding two mutually excluding positions the same can be said about libertarians and all sorts of free marketeers who at the same believe in ethnic nationalisms, closed borders and isolationism.

    I believe that Bernie Sanders recent position on open borders position is calculated tactical decision.

  22. SafeNow says:
    @Ron Unz

    I am a long-time California resident. Regarding Ron Unz’s assertion that ethnic conflict is minimal, I disagree. That is because I interpret “conflict” broadly, in the sense of “IN conflict.” If persisting in speaking a different language is not a significant conflict, I don’t know what would be. But beyond that, the cultural, behavioral, and attitudinal conflicts are significant, and affect daily life. For example, proficient/conscientious/fastidious is in conflict with “get it basically right.”

    • Replies: @lysias
  23. renfro says:

    rotflmao…

    No need to worry about the antics of the parties and dirty tricks and rigged elections….
    The voters are so stupid they can screw up elections without any help.

    Buttigieg supporter asks to take back vote after learning he’s gay

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/buttigieg-supporter-asks-to-take-back-vote-after-learning-hes-gay/ar-BBZEgtb

    Says she liked his speeches but didnt know he was gay.

  24. Ghali says:

    The Truth is, if elected, Bernie Sanders will NOT be much different from his predecessors. After all, he is a pro-Israel Jew.

  25. S says:

    Studies have shown that employers actively discriminate against white workers for immigrants not because the quality of the work is superior, but out of fear that whites will try to collectively bargain or demand decent wages.

    Historically, going back at least to the time of early industrialisation in the United States and the creation of New England’s textile mills during the first half of the 19th century, ‘waves of immigrants’ were imported in consistently for the specific purpose of breaking up strikes.

    The result by 1910 in the planned industrial town of Lawrence, Massachusetts was the demographic displacement of the previous Anglo-Saxon population of the area which had formerly done the bulk of this work, as illustrated in the map below..

    Of course, just as chattel slaves on occasion revolt, so do wage slaves. Here the Massachusetts militia was called out to confront strikers taking part in the Lawrence Textile Strike of 1912.

    Another blatant example of this type of thing were the Colorado coal mines of the early 20th century. The practices of the mine owners there resulted in the Colorado Coalfield War of 1913-14 and the Ludlow Massacre.

    To break or prevent strikes, the coal companies hired strike breakers, mainly from Mexico and southern and eastern Europe. The Colorado Fuel & Iron Company mixed immigrants of different nationalities in the mines to discourage communication that might lead to organization.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_Lawrence_textile_strike

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Coalfield_War

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

    • Thanks: Johnny Walker Read
  26. @Ron Unz

    Mr Unz has a fine website and writes some of the finest articles in the world. So let me preface this comment by stating that Mr Unz deserves accolades for his work he will never receive, and that’s a shame.

    It’s always interesting to compare Liberal perceptions of reality with population perceptions.

    https://fox6now.com/2020/01/06/california-exodus-more-people-moving-out-of-state-than-in-for-first-time-since-2010/

    People are leaving California in droves.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-exodus-losing-congressional-seat-census-estimates

    So there’s no ethnic conflict, and politics is mundane and sedate? 203,000 people left this settled and politically inert jursidiction in 18-19 alone.

    https://www.texaspolicy.com/74-percent-of-conservative-californians-are-looking-into-leaving-the-state/

    53% of people in the state proper, all voting, want to leave.

    74% of conservative Californians want to leave.

    Why are there now so many people leaving California and it’s settled political environs, that it may lose a Congressional district???

    I’m afraid that Mr Unz’s assessment is reminiscent of the Muslims and the Africans and sundry other libidinous salubrious scallywags etcetera in London who proclaim that London too, has no racial animus or ethnic conflict. They state that London is a paragon of diversity and harmony. That Whites are benefiting at all stratas from their enrichment. They very sincerely profess their assurances complete with laws for hate speech and long and intense studies showing the correctness of their views.

    ….Then one proceeds to observe that the White flight out of London in the past few years is one of the largest internal population movements in the entire history of the United Kingdom.

    Crime is at record highs. And all categories of the worst crimes are at record highs, and ethnic tensions are at record highs.

    But London is a paragon of diversity, like California.

    Mass population movements typically aren’t associated with political blandness and tedium and cultural and ethnic harmony.

    Why is there mass population movement out of California if California is so settled and pristine? Why is the sentiment for escape from California so strong that it is presumably only constrained by affordability?

    People vote with their feet, and with the attitudes they express towards their feet.

    The feet of Californians do not concur with Mr Unz.

    I don’t understand how someone as intelligent as Mr Unz can be so myopically wrong about the conditions of his own State. Extrapolating, using California as the exemplar of the United States, one is presumably also wrong about the state of the United States as a whole, and Nationalists aren’t wrong.

    If the politics in California are so settled, why do 74% of conservatives want to get out, and 53% of all voters want to get out, and why have 203,000 people left in the last year?

    Yes California is a big place with a big population. But this isn’t just noise. This is signalling.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/the-truth-about-the-california-exodus/605833/

    The Californian model is such an abject failure that Texas doesn’t want any more Californians with their Unzian wisdom about settled and harmonious and convivial and correct politics.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972

    If Trump is wrong to call Mexicans rapists, why is it that in 2014 the Huffington Post, which I suppose is exactly like Breitbart and VDare, reported that 80% of the women crossing the border get raped?

    Why is it, that this fact which Liberals have been enjoined with now for some time, simply eludes their processing? I read this link on this website. Thanks to whoever posted it.

    Who is doing all the raping of all the women and children and boys crossing the border, and why is that silly Mr Trump wrong but that amazing, vibrant, powerful, stunning Huffington Post speaking truth to Mr Obama in 2014 so very wrong?

    How is it possible that California has such sedate politics when political sentiment is so high almost everybody conservatives wants to get out, and a plurality of the population presumably would leave if they had their affairs in order to do it?

    How is London a haven of harmonious diversity if it is subject to one of the largest movements away from it in the history of the United Kingdom?

    Who is really wrong about the relative state of sentiment? Is it Striker, or is it Unz?

    Sure, if Unz is right, then Hispanics will vote for Bernie even though he’s a Jew who got married in the Soviet Union. But if I look at the Democratic ticket, I don’t see a Hispanic on it.

    Right, so in the absence of a member of the race, they’ll vote for the biggest socialist they can in a panel of socialists.

    Which is what all conservatives with any sense have been saying for a long time. In the end, identity trumps ideology, but cultural ideology trumps individual ideology in the absence of identity.

    Theodore Beale is right about this, in my respectful opinion, and Mr Unz is wrong.

    The earlier article about a Grand Bargain was very good in the 2016 context. This part was interesting.

    “Any politically viable proposal would need to offer permanent residency and perhaps eventual citizenship to individuals who have already lived in the United States for many years, had no criminal record, and possessed strong ties to the local community, such as American-born family members.”

    Except amnesty given the pattern that Mr Unz has himself identified and current population dispersion could solidify a Democrat demographic majority for ever and ever Amen.

    So it’s never going to be permitted to happen, except by force, as an imposition of the Left, pending the break-up of the United States of America.

    I simply cannot understand how someone can say that Whites are now a dwindling minority in a state that used to be 85% white at a beleaguered 30%. Yet at the same time, that state’s politics are totally benign, and the fact no one talks about the third rail issues means they don’t exist.

    Just like in London.

    Ah yes, and going back to this ‘Grand Bargain’.

    All the Grand Bargain will take is Democrats agreeing to eschew political power in favour of general economic prosperity.

    Given that, what are the chances of it happening? Hmm, think think. Oh yes, ZERO. The chances of such a grand bargain are approximately Zero.

    Because big business doesn’t just thrive from a coolie class of Brown Kalergi men.

    Big politics does as well.

    The Grand Bargain is a total pipedream.

    And it has been wholesale rejected by white voters precisely because they know that it is a ludicrous pipedream.

    But Mr Unz has a very fine website and writes some of the finest articles in the world.

    But California politics are inert??!!

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/9278656-181/wildfires-in-california-pose-crisis

    Wildfire crisis. Resource Management crisis.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/millions-in-california-begin-losing-power-as-pg-e-tries-to-avoid-wildfire-11570632347

    No electricity in California. Because reasons.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-california-cities-overrun-rodents-public-health

    California overrun by rodents and Feces – which is really interesting because the CoronaVirus can be bourne by both rats and also on Feces.

    Even without Corona Virus California is subject to a public health crisis.

    So politics is exceptionally bland and boring. And because local Californian media are reporting on Nurse emancipation from their doctors, that means none of the above is happening?

    Yes. The House is burning down, but as long as the occupants are discussing their preferred window sill condiments it isn’t happening.

  27. @Ron Unz

    And going back to the ‘Grand Bargain’.

    All it’s going to take is to get people to take $5,000.00 to go back.

    Wait it’s that easy?

    So why doesn’t one of these insane and intemperate, improper, vulgar and vapid ‘Alt-Right’ types just offer all the people who aren’t say, German, $5,000.00 to go back to the Middle East or Africa?

    Oh right, because that requires the voluntary acquiescence of the grant recipients.

    So what happens, if the grant recipient disagrees with the prescription of the majority represented by the Grand Bargain?

    Nothing?

    Or

    Something?

    And if something, what is the something? How will the interlopers from this Grand Bargain be convinced to see the errors of their self-interest to stay in their new adopted country?

  28. trill says:
    @Basehonoluluhaole

    funny that, given that the chosen generally are much more authoritarian and disdainfull of others than goyim. must be projection.

  29. trill says:
    @Californication

    whites usually give up and go, especially the wealtheir ones, since all they really want is a civilised and peaceful environment. which is why they are the favourite target population of immigrants and the chosen who facilitate all this. there is so much to shake down and humiliate. other ethnics fight for their interests, even when they are not warranted.

  30. @trill

    Except Whites aren’t wealthy any more, beyond the Boomers.

    Whites have been bled dry.

    Whites understand now perfectly well, that all salutary false even sincere assurances to the contrary, that they will not be party to a civilized and peaceful environment. Unless they are able to enforce proximity to themselves and their own.

    That’s absolutely clear.

    Whites aren’t wealthy any more. Whites have already been humiliated. Did you see how Trump talked about America’s manifest destiny and the fact that we’re respected again? That wasn’t just a description. That was an injunction.

    Ergo, Whites have nothing to lose.

    Bernie is going to be robbed of his opportunity to lose to the God Emperor by the same Globo-Homo elements who thought Hillary could never lose.

    So the Bernie Bros are going to run out of patience. It’s going to be really exciting to watch what the Bernie Bros do. And most of them are White.

    Which is also revealing. The Dems should have just run a Castro. But this is their sacrificial lamb year.

    Virginians have provided what will likely be the last 4GW warning to the Communists and Satanists. They’re going to be ignored as per usual. So they’re going to run out of patience.

    Everywhere all around the world, there is a paucity of patience as the failed model runs it’s course. Even in California.

    All these blithe assurances of success and prosperity belied by feces covered rats scuttling in the darkness of electricity grid blackouts and flame amidst an exodus of people living the fake reality of the fake Liberals.

    This is the state of the World now.

    All the liars are on the yonder side of that Hill where white men are standing and looking across at the horizon.

    I mean it’s embarrassing. And it’s not Mr Unz’s fault. All he can do is pick up his local paper and read it the same as everyone else. He wrote one of the best articles I’ve ever read about organised crime vis a vis Chicago and California.

    But it’s embarrassing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/us/california-drinking-water.html

    California also has a water crisis.

    I mean what the fuck?

    But apparently that’s also not important.

    What’s important is the dynamic between Nurses and Doctors, and Community and State Colleges over who feels more ‘present’.

    Meanwhile you have a water crisis, electricity crisis, population and related electoral crisis, public health crisis, arguably a geopolitical and national security crisis given sanctuary city treason against the Federal government and a restless Chinese population carrying a lethal virus, a housing crisis, and any number of other important and pressing issues of the day.

    And this is why, when all of a sudden the world turns on it’s axis again, like it did with Trump, all these very very smart and well articulated Liberals will be perplexed, yet again.

    No sympathy.

    Not this time. Whites aren’t going to just give up and go somewhere else this time.

    There is no where to go.

    Where are they going to go? Canada? Europe? Australia?

    It’s honestly just funny at this point.

    Trump gave a very fine State of the Union.

    Let’s see what happens this election.

  31. Anonymous[331] • Disclaimer says:

    White people just get ordered around by the latest Alpha non-white race in charge. For the last few decades it’s been Jews, now it’s increasingly Chinese. Even blacks are starting to gain political power over whites.

    Whites lack geo-political savvy and self-awareness, they tend to just go along with the will of high IQ non-whites. Whites are high IQ, but lack the self-belief and worldly saviness of the non-white races. Even peaks of white power like the British Empire, etc, was only made possible by heavy Jewish involvement.

  32. The “oligarchs” and their corporate lawyers have been waging “lawfare” against unions for 40 years or more and,to the detriment of the rights of workers ,they have largely succeeded . Like they did the last time around ,the corporate interests that run the DNC are once again actively trying to subvert Bernie Sander’s campaign , see

    zerohedge.com: “Meet the billionaire behind Iowa’s disastrous voting app: Buttigieg-Backer Seth Klarman ”
    stateofthenation.co: “Pete Buttigieg: Manchurian candidate…”

    observer.com : “Court concedes DNC had the right to rig the primaries against Sanders ”

    alethonews.com : “Railroaded again :’Technical glitch’ in Democratic party voting app deprives Sanders of Iowa victory”
    There’s nothing Democratic about the Democratic party! Smoke-filled rooms replaced by fixed primaries .

  33. @Californication

    I think you are right on this. For example, the 500 square miles covering the city of Los Angeles is diverse but segmented, the first thing you learn when you move there. In general terms: the west side is white, the east side is hispanic, the south side is (or was) black. But those areas are further divided into endless ethnic/social villages: Armenian Glendale, Chinatown, Little Tokyo, Little Ethiopia, queer West Hollywood, Asian El Monte…

    I have worked in and walked through New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore with no problems, but 25 years in Southern California as a white person was a continuing gauntlet of unprovoked threats and insults from non-whites. Add to that the annoyance of having a broad service sector that simply refuses to speak English and you get the picture.

    I haven’t been in Cali for ten years, I can only imagine it’s gotten a lot worse.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @fnn
  34. JackOH says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    david, I’d be more inclined to take Bernie and Elizabeth’s blathering about Medicare for All more seriously if they also talked about how they’d rid America of group health insurance. The Fifth Amendment’s takings clause may be one option; another might be for government to offer to “purchase” current group health beneficiaries from employers and fold those beneficiaries into Medicare.

    (I’ve been astonished that maverick shareholders have never asked their companies’ directors, AFAIK, why they provide massively subsidized and mandatory health insurance (i. e., untaxed charity care) for the million dollar executive, the $100,000 a year engineer, the $35,000 a year secretary—but provide no enrollment at all for the $18,000 a year part-time janitor. I’ve talked to HR folks who seem unaware that group health’s sole purpose is neither social equity nor good health, but solely to block national health schemes.)

    But, American medicine’s Iron Pyramid of political lobbies enjoys extraordinary powers of initiative and veto, so I believe the only way to adequately stage Medicare for All is through a joint House-Senate select committee on health care investigation to bloody those immensely cruel political lobbies.

  35. Anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Politically, middle-class white men are like a combatant who finds himself paralyzed on his left side from a stroke insofar as college-educated white women, not blacks, will be the margin of victory consolidating power in the hands of the now genocidal POC juggernaut assembled by America’s Jews.

    In view of the blatant calls to exterminate “whiteness,” is there any reason beyond “it can’t happen here” to believe today’s cultural genocide against whites, which can easily be shown to be Jewish in origin, leadership, and funding, won’t morph into the physical, as it did for over sixty million Russians a century ago?

    The unfolding tragedy is that the virtue signaling and screeching about empowerment (as a euphemism for unmerited privilege) by America’s white, college-educated women with children apparently means more to them than the futures and maybe the lives of their own children. This is to be expected on a psychological level in any case, as women who accept the unmerited preferment, hiring, and advancement of affirmative action, as nearly all women do, belong in the same political class as any others who claim unmerited preferment over white males as a right.

  36. Why the DNC needed to derail Bernie Sanders in Iowa :
    fivethirtyeight.com:” Iowa might have screwed up the whole nomination process” :
    “…we had to determine empirically how much the results of one state can affect the rest . The answer in the case of IOWA is that it matters a LOT…” By Nate Silver

  37. @Ron Unz

    Actually, I don’t think that the political analysis in this column is correct…

    Since you’re mostly talking about mestizos and Orientals in California, and Striker was talking mostly about Negroes nationwide, you’re largely talking past each other here. Neither refutes the other.

    I can’t speak to the specifics of your personal truth, but as far as nationwide trends among Negro voters, Striker’s claim seems to be a reasonable one:

    Poll: Biden continues to dominate among black voters

    Though it’s certainly possible that Sanders’ attempts to spew vitriolic anti-White hatred in a manner specifically targeted to appeal to Blacks — combined with Biden’s decline — may end up helping him with that population.

    It’s hardly surprising that mestizos, Orientals, and other populations foreign to the historic American nation would find Sanders’ newfound enthusiasm for open borders appealing, of course. Striker never denied that. Nor is it surprising that mestizos in particular tend to find his promise to import many more of their people plus big government/ more gibs to be appealing.

    they tend to get all their information from [so-called] “ridiculous” sources like Breitbart and VDare

    This is a very strange association that would never occur to anyone who was not an open-borders zealot, as these are two very different publications. Breitbart’s editorial stance is clearly a hardcore jewish supremacist/ Israel First one — more Likudnik than neocon:

    They merely adopt a transparent veneer of faux “America First” populism in an attempt to appeal to the more gullible among normal, patriotic Americans.
    Vdare, on the other hand, actually advocates for the interests of the historic American nation. Are you truly unaware of this obvious distinction? Or are you simply being deliberately disingenuous here?

    Also note that your comment addresses only the political aspects of Striker’s argument, while entirely avoiding the economic ones.. The reason for this is presumably that his argument is irrefutable on economic grounds. Not just the well-known facts that he cites about the harm to workers caused by Sweden’s attempts to import all of Somalia, plus most of the current inhabitants of the future Eretz Israel, but the self-evident truth of a certain well-known Friedmanesque aphorism.

    Not surprisingly (given his ethnicity) Friedman was arguing that the welfare state would have to give in order to maintain open borders — but that does not in any way falsify his very simple point.

    Had Striker anticipated your response, he could just as easily used your example of the supposed “paradise” of toxic diversity and woke capitalism that is current year Mexifornia to illustrate his point:

    California has a higher Gini coefficient than Mexico — and Guatemala

    – And of course — California has the highest poverty rate in the country

    But hey — as long as you and your neighbors have plenty of cheap gardeners, maids, and nannies… it’s all good, right?

  38. zard says:

    WHAT FLAVOR OF JEWISH DECEPTION do you want? Leftist? You got the National Jewish Democratic Council. Conservative? You got the Republican Jewish Coalition.

    How about controlled-opposition from the right?

    You got Breitbart News: Born In The USA Conceived In Israel.

    From the left? You got Mother Jones and TruthDig, both owned by Jews, with thin and scanty Anti-Israel Light, followed by extra large Homosexual Heavy.

    The entire media is Jew-owned, with ABC under Disney’s major shareholders, Robert Iger and Alan Braverman; CBS under Viacom’s Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein); and NBC under Comcast’s Brian Roberts.

    How about draping right-wing polity with a Jewish yarmulke? Then enter Ben Shapiro spouting a conservative rant on Fox News who gets the goys all unglued.

    “Not all Jews are leftist wackos,” says Trump’s goyisha base when listening to Shapiro, “this Jewish guy’s one of us.”

    But when the right-slinging Yid woos the Zio-christian boobs with, “I just LOVE Israel,” he gets the goys to chime right in with, “Oh, how we love Jews, ahh…Jesus.”

    Oh, you say, the media hates Trump so how can you tell me that Jews support Trump?

    Well, you simply can’t fathom Jewish deception. Big Jewish money is behind Trump vis-a-vis Sheldon Adelson, Charles Kushner, and Paul Singer.

    But to a man Jews despise Trump’s “deplorable” base—that is, white men and women—who crave racial congruity in America.

    Nothing scares the Jew more than a ‘White-Christian-Consensus’ that could easily turn against the ‘chosen’ at the drop of a worthless dime. (Jews know their history and knavery.)

    DON’T THINK FOR A MINUTE that a ‘deep state’ exists. The term is a Jewish media ploy to deflect the goy from spotting the deep-rooted tentacles of Jewish control.

    If you finger the CIA as the culprit then you’re blind to the Jewish layer encased within it—The Mossad—Israel’s intelligence agency.

    If you pinpoint the FBI as the rascal then you’re blind to the deeply embedded intrigues of Jewish money that prefers lackeys like Hillary Clinton who shill for Zionist interests with solid predictability.

    And suppose you focus on The Pentagon as the source of America’s woes then you can’t see who cuts the military bosses’ checks, the Jew-owned Federal Reserve.

    NO SINGLE PRESIDENT nor political hack can oppose the interests of Jewish Wall Street.

    Bernie can talk up a puff of hooey against Jewish finance capital but his socialist program depends on fiat money manufactured by the Fed (owned by a consortium of Jewish banks) to fund his programs AT INTEREST and gouge the American citizen with increased taxes.

    Bernie the Jew is yet another huge deception.

    For while decrying Trump’s Venezuela coup agenda when tweeting, “We can’t go down this road again,” he touted it deliberately and strategically way too late, so as to appear against the coup, since Trump was already a hundred miles down the road of regime change.

    What will 2020 bring?

    An overturning with dogs on the loose and America in a Jew-ruined fix.

    Because we’re living in a Jew-deceived world and that’s why America is doomed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Trinity
  39. Bernie is in 2nd place in both popular and delegate counts to a fairy from Indiana. Hmmm….. looks like Bernie has a ceiling and the Iowa caucus exposes that.

    The tired old pathalogical liar Liawatha finishes 3rd.

    Creepy Uncle Joe spent 44 years in politics, 8 years under Obama’s desk as the Vice President in charge of polishing the President’s knob and the best he can acheive is 4th place?

    The Democrats Clown Car Circus Act is amusing at best.

  40. @trill

    I loved watching CNN explain Iowa does not matter because most people in Iowa are White and racist.

    BWHAHAHA!!!!

    • Replies: @Wally
  41. bjondo says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    I’d let R. Nader work out the Single Payer system.

    Yang’s UBI rational.

    I would make the amount higher.

    Biden goin’ nowhere.

    I don’t expect Bernie to roll over and bark like ’16.

    5ds

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  42. @Ron Unz

    Millions of white Californians have evacuated the state since the Mexican deluge of the 1980s and 1990s, and the remainder live in segregated upper-middle-class and wealthy communities in SD, LA, and the Bay Area along with small-town and rural white areas scattered throughout the state, but mostly North of the Bay Area. California’s boring politics will continue to become more boring as the white population decreases in total numbers and in terms of percentage of the population, as the 2020 Census will show. Some of the things you say are astonishingly dumb, Ron.

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  43. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Adorno was part of an operation whose mission was to destroy western culture.

    The Congress for Cultural Freedom: Making the Postwar World Safe for Fascist `Kulturkampf’
    by Steven Meyer and Jeffrey Steinberg

    https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2004/eirv31n25-20040625/eirv31n25-20040625_021-the_congress_for_cultural_freedo.pdf

  44. @bjondo

    To my own surprise, Bjondo, I’ve come to favor a UBI, but under conditions that will never be attached by a dem congress or even a republican congress.

    The UBI should be phased in gradually, starting at $200 per month and increasing by $100-200/month per year.

    (Despite Yang’s conclusory assertion to the contrary, I’d expect that a faster rollout would cause too much price and rent inflation, defeating part of the purpose of the UBI.)

    Every year, though, there must be offsetting (and greater) cuts in both military and non-UBI welfare spending. That’s another reason the UBI needs to be phased in gradually: we likely won’t be able (politically willing) to cut enough other fed gov spending each year to offset a faster UBI rollout.

    Phase out most of the federal welfare bureaucracy and give the money directly to U.S. Citizens. Instead of bureaucrat salaries, benefits, and pensions, those tax dollars would go right into the pocket of all U.S. Citizens. This also greatly reduces the political power of that former bureaucrat parasite class.

    A bigger issue, and almost never mentioned, is the one you perceptively raise: we shouldn’t have to stay in thrall to the profiteers owning and running the federal reserve to fund the UBI or any other government function. We should stop enriching the Fed and the banks who piggyback on it to get free invented money to lend to us at interest. We need a public bank.

  45. Anonymous[159] • Disclaimer says:
    @zard

    Your parallel construction between the CIA and the FBI goes off track mentioning an outsider like Hillary. The FBI is as embedded with Chasids in mufti and other Jewish subversives as is the CIA.

  46. Sanders is a communist as are the rest of the demon-rats, so there is a choice between an open communist and hidden communists, on the republi-con side Trump is controlled by zionists aka communists, so again as in every election since JFK was assassinated, we are given a Hobsons choice between two zionist controlled candidates, and the winner is Israel as always.

  47. @Ron Unz

    Wrong. I live in So Cal. The only reason we don’t have open racial conflict is because all of your tribe will work to get any white person who complains ostracized from society. White people have to shut up and accept the wetbacks hostility in our society or the jews attack economically. We get along as long as whites sit down shut up and let low IQ non white morons rule over us.

    The wetbacks are way worse than the blacks.

  48. Woodsie says:

    you will never have socialism without nationalism.

    “I am a republican because I am a socialist.” – James Connolly

    The Irish revolutionary James Connolly believed in the One Big Union, and was an organizer for the I.W.W. (Wobblies) when he lived in the USA. He was disabused of his dream of international communism when French socialists took up arms against German socialists at the outset of The Great War. From then on he preached Syndicalism, and his nationalist aspirations manifested in the Easter Uprising of 1916, The Proclamation of the Irish Republic, and Stone Breaker’s yard.

    What is a free nation? A free nation is one which possesses absolute control over all its own internal resources and powers, and which has no restriction upon its intercourse with all other nations similarly circumstanced except the restrictions placed upon it by nature….

    A free nation must have complete control over its own harbours, to open them or close them at will, or shut out any commodity, or allow it to enter in, just as it seemed best to suit the well-being of its own people, and in obedience to their wishes, and entirely free of the interference of any other nation, and in complete disregard of the wishes of any other nation. Short of that power no nation possesses the first essentials of freedom….

    How would you like to live in a house if the keys of all the doors of that house were in the pockets of a rival of yours who had often robbed you in the past? Would you be satisfied if he told you that he and you were going to be friends for ever more, but insisted upon you signing an agreement to leave him control of all your doors, and custody of all your keys?

    …A free nation must have full power to nurse industries to health, either by government encouragement or by government prohibition of the sale of goods of foreign rivals. It may be foolish to do either, but a nation is not free unless it has that power…

    As the separate individual is to the family, so the separate nation is to humanity. The perfect family is that which best draws out the inner powers of the individual, the most perfect world is that in which the separate existence of nations is held most sacred.

    – James Connolly What Is A Free Nation?

  49. Ron Unz says:
    @Californication

    So there’s no ethnic conflict, and politics is mundane and sedate? 203,000 people left this settled and politically inert jursidiction in 18-19 alone….Why is there mass population movement out of California if California is so settled and pristine? Why is the sentiment for escape from California so strong that it is presumably only constrained by affordability?

    It’s not very complicated. Housing in California is *ridiculously* expensive, and people are being pushed out of the state because they can’t afford to live here. Plus the traffic is terrible. Since immigration drives population-growth, it’s been an important factor behind those problems, but that’s very different from alleging racial conflict with immigrants.

    Here’s an important empirical fact to consider from an article I wrote a couple of years ago:

    Trump had made immigration concerns a central element of his 2016 campaign, but that theme fell totally flat in America’s most heavily immigrant state, with white Californians supporting Trump at a rate 20-25 points lower than whites in the rest of the country. Indeed, if the entire white national electorate had voted like its Golden State counterpart, Trump would have lost all fifty states, mostly by huge landslides, suffering by far the greatest electoral disaster in American history. All the Trump-hating pundits would have spent Election Night laughing and saying “I told you so!”

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-building-a-wall-and-hispanic-crime/

  50. It won’t be bernie……for big visible jobs in which criticism can’t be readily stifled, landsmen prefer ruling from behind the throne.

    • Agree: Cornelius
    • Replies: @Cornelius
  51. Tom Perez! Any relationship with Hilton and Simon to name a couple?

    Anyway, Bro Bernie isn’t going to win the D nomination because that is reserved for the up and coming “the Fag of Malta” Pete Buttgag and his victory will guarantee the reelection of the Orange Cockatoo who will in turn end up doing what is required of him by the Elders of Zion!

    P. S. For his “selfless” services the Donald will be assured of the billionaires-club membership for his progeny.

  52. sally says:
    @Miro23

    Open borders is only appropriate if boarders exist. The nation state system is the problem; it divides 8 billion humans into 206 different containers and appoints a deep state puppet to rule and differentiate each one.

    The elite forces looking to block Bernie’s nomination have honed in on what they perceive as the shallowness of minority voters.. <==maybe but as I see it, it does not matter how the elite did it, or who it was the elite this time did it to, what matters is that elite actions are responsible for interfering with the one bit of democracy the Constitution left the people with. The voting public has but three votes (one for a member of the 450 member house of representative, and 2 for two persons to site as members of the 100 member USA Senate, and none for either the President or the VP of the United States.

    The electoral college controls who appointed THE PERSON TO BE President and THE PERSON TO BE THE VP, IT IS NOT THE AMERICAN VOTING PUBLIC. .
    ..The details of events that deny Americans their opportunity to vote don’t matter, what matters is the vote has been squandered by the mobster elite.

    The 12th amendment to the USA reads in part:
    The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves, and in distinct ballots, the person voted for as Vice President and they shall make distinct list of Persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for a Vice President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit seal to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; —The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and the House of Representatives, open all certificates and the votes shall then be counted. <=it goes on and on.. but you get the drift..

    You see no American not a voting member of the electoral college can vote for either the president or the VP.

  53. The alleged “people of the book” are of narrative, Jaegermeister Tuberculosis + Karl Marx and some alien 17th century dialect

  54. @Digital Samizdat

    “incompetence”

    This is such a massive cope. It isn’t incompetence, it is planned.

  55. @Ron Unz

    This is a very useful rejoinder. Though I wonder how representative of the US California really is. For one thing, it is much more Asian and somewhat more Hispanic than the rest of the country and comparatively less black. In states like Mississippi or Alabama, racial tension is much more visceral. Demographics of California cannot easily be replicated, and vice versa for Alabama.

    That isn’t an argument for making MS or AL the base for any analysis of the US as much as saying that perhaps it isn’t very useful to discuss the US political situation in a national sense. The country may simply be too big and the inter-state variations are far too great.

    That said, I do think your rejoinder did not adress a key aspect of Striker’s argument, namely that open borders is bad for socialism. California is still neoliberal, even if racial tension is low.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Trinity
    , @Old Guy
  56. Trinity says:
    @zard

    YOUR POST IS SO SPOT ON !!!! You need to receive a GOLD STAR for this post alone. IF only I could DRILL YOUR POST INTO EVERY STUPID AND GULLIBLE GOYIM’S HEAD UNTIL IT FINALLY WOULD SINK IN.

    On another article a commentator said OUR only chance at avoiding a war with Iran was to vote for Bernie Sanders. LMAO. This guy/gal was either a Hasbara troll or about one of the most clueless people out there when it comes to JQ.

    Bernie Sanders is A STRAIGHT UP AVOWED (((COMMUNIST))) aka ZIONIST. These (((commie))) clowns will disguise their intent by pushing “democratic socialism” until they have things totally under control and then it becomes full blown (((communism.))) The old Soviet Union was supposed to become a “worker’s paradise” and yet no other people were punished more than the peasants and workers. “Worker’s paradise?” How about the MANUFACTURED FAMINE that starved MILLIONS of Ukrainian farmers.

    Not only would (((commie))) Sanders be all in at turning this country into a full blown anti-White cesspool of hate, he would be 100% in on those Greater Israel Wars as well. Even Trumpstein looks good when compared with the demshevik anti-White side of the coin. The Zionists win no matter who is PRETENDING to be President, but I will definitely vote for Trumpstein over any of those rabid anti-White demsheviks. America is definitely being held hostage, and I don’t know if we can vote our way out of this one.

  57. Wally says:
    @America1st

    Yet the Iowa majority voted for Obama in 2008, 2012.

  58. Charles says:
    @Californication

    This may be the best comment ever published on the Internet, and not just b/c of the content. I like the style of points being separated by space – the reader can more easily follow the train of thought. And last but not least – kudos to Unz for publishing writers WITH WHOM he disagrees.

  59. A123 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Back in 2015 Sanders was a critic of H1B Visa abuse: (1)

    The points raised by Sanders echo those made by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who chairs the Senate’s Immigration subcommittee. In fact, Sanders was one of 10 senators who signed a recent letter by Sessions and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) to several federal departments seeking an investigation into H-1B use.

    If he had kept this pisition, he would have had an opening to challenge Trump. However, he has flipped and is now a full on “open borders” advocate. The Democrat party is now anti-worker / pro-Corporate elites.
    _______

    In the article Mr. Striker is mostly correct about the problem:

    The factors that have led to the collapse of the middle class have specifically hit white people the hardest: financialization of the economy, liberalization of trade that allows companies to ship millions of manufacturing jobs abroad, and mass immigration that insources indentured and illegal slave labor.

    All U.S. Citizens suffered under Barack Hussein’s Corporate Democratic party rule. Whites were hit worst, but no race was spared.

    Those Citizens who want “Good Jobs at Good Wages” are going to vote Trump.

    The DNC candidate will have to sell Globalism and Corporatism as desirable, and that will be almost impossible.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.computerworld.com/article/2916827/bernie-sanders-h-1b-skeptic.html

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  60. anarchyst says:
    @JackOH

    It is evident that you have never dealt with the American medical system.

    Yes, even today it is not only possible, but is advisable to talk to the hospital and doctor’s billing departments about charges if you disagree with them or if you have problems with payment.

    The “dirty little secret” is that, if you agree to a “payment plan” you are obligated for the total agreed-upon charges, BUT you can pay them as little as $5 per month and they will leave you alone and not dun you for more.

    Being involuntarily unemployed and not having health insurance for a while, I was able to get substantial discounts for medical services after explaining my situation.

    In some cases, the charges were totally waived.

    This was not only for routine doctor visits, but for procedures performed in major medical centers. My primary care physician halved his charges and then some.

    In many cases, you will get the “discounted” rate-the rate at which insurers and hospitals agree upon.

    No, I did not avail myself of the medicaid system, but was considered to be a “private pay” patient.

    For your information, president Trump is requiring hospitals to publicly submit lists of charges “for services rendered”. The hospitals are not happy about this, but will go along.

  61. anarchyst says:
    @JackOH

    If you think “healthcare” is expensive now, wait till it’s “free”.

    Taxes will have to be raised to confiscatory levels.

    The most egregious aspects of “socialized healthcare” will be the “wait” for services, and the fact that some government official will make your healthcare decisions for you–some lifesaving drugs and services will be deemed “too expensive” and unavailable. Woe to you if you are elderly…you will be denied lifesaving treatments-euthanasia as a government mandate.

    Not only that, but, if you choose to obtain your healthcare services in another country, you will be prohibited from doing so. Look at the two infants who were denied the right to travel for healthcare that the British National Health System was unable to provide, despite the offshore healthcare services being provided at no cost to the parents. The “National Health System” refused to “allow” the infants to receive treatment in another country, and essentially held the infants “hostage”.

    Add to that, experimental treatments will not be allowed, no matter the possible efficacy and success–government inefficiency at its best. The infants were prohibited from seeking medical treatment elsewhere, as it would make the “government system” look bad.

    Is this what we want?

    As an aside, in most countries with “socialized medicine”, supplemental (private) insurance is still necessary, in order to get decent “healthcare”.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  62. Dutch Boy says:
    @tanabear

    Ron Unz is rich and lives in a cushy part of the bay area. California is still a nice place to live if you have dough, so he naturally thinks the situation is better than it is. The masses of Americans leaving the state (as have my five brothers and sisters and most of their children) tell a different story.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  63. anarchyst says:
    @JackOH

    There are problems in the American health care system, BUT, comparisons to other countries is off-base. If you need a CT scan or other high-tech procedure here in the USA, you will get one, almost immediately.

    In addition, ANYONE who shows up at a hospital emergency room WILL be treated without consideration of “who will pay the bill”. This is the case in ALL medical facilities that have emergency rooms and urgent care centers in the United States, and is mandated by law.

    Our neighbor to the north, which has excellent medical staff, routinely rations CT scans and other high-tech procedures, as these machines and procedures are far less available due to cost considerations. You might have to wait 3 months for the same CT scan in Canada.

    A number of years ago, Canadian hospitals were caught providing CT scans for veterinarians’ animals, while humans were on waiting lists for use of the machines. You see, veterinarians paid cash “up front” for use of the machines.

    A dirty little secret of Canadian health care, is that some patients are referred to American border-city hospitals for treatment if they squawk loud enough. In addition, Canadian politicians and movers and shakers routinely come to the United States for medical treatment.

    Look at Great Britain’s National Health Service which routinely rations health care as well as exacting death sentences on humans because of cost. Recently, a British subject (baby) was refused potentially life-saving treatment not only in Great Britain, but also in the United States. The parents had the money to pay for the treatment here in the United States, but Britain’s National Health Service would not allow the baby to leave. A similar situation is unfolding, as the “National Health Service” refuses to allow the parents to take their child to Italy for treatment. What kind of health-care is that?

    Socialized health care is fine for cuts, scrapes, and bruises, but when it comes to high-tech procedures, there are always cost considerations. Anyone can see that government-imposed solutions almost never work.

    It is interesting to note, that in Canada, Great Britain, and other “socialized medicine” countries, private supplemental health insurance is necessary in order to receive decent medical treatment.

    The problem is not health care, but health INSURANCE and HMOs – Health Maintenance Organizations, which artificially mask the true costs of health care.

    Going back to a “fee for services” like in the pre-HMO days of medicine would be an improvement as there would be competition for health care services.

    Two good examples of successful “fee for services” medicine are plastic surgery and laser refractive surgery (eyes). Both plastic surgeons and ophthalmologists offer discounts for their procedures. In fact, prices for these procedures are constantly dropping.

    A good distinction can be made between HMOs and automobile insurance.
    Automobile insurance pays for accidents and damage to vehicles, nothing more. If automobile insurance were run like HMOs, they would pay for vehicle maintenance,oil-changes and the like.

    Yes, the American health-care system needs improvement, but socialized medicine is not the answer or the right approach.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  64. @Ron Unz

    Could the factoid about White voters supporting Trump less in immigrant heavy areas be attributed to bias in that the Whites who don’t like immigrants (and thus are likely to vote Trump) have moved out of these areas?

    I do agree that many people seem to exaggerate the ‘race war’ narrative. As I Brit, I visited San Francisco a few years ago and it honestly wasn’t that bad. But then again, outlets like Breitbart would have you believe that you will get run over by a jihadist as soon as you step into London.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Trinity
  65. Dutch Boy says:
    @Ron Unz

    This is a distinction without a difference. Immigration is making California unlivable for Americans (unless they are rich) and that is conflict enough.

  66. @A123

    You are a vile Jew of the Zionist variety, you know that Trump is no better than his predecessors when it comes to White Rights, he has done diddly squat about social media companies censoring mainly White people for expressing dissident right opinions.

    You use an old Jewish tactic, resent two candidates, one that is bad and the other that is REALLY bad and then make the goyim choose between them.

    Both Barack Hussein Obama and Donald Shabbos Goy Trump are bad news for Whites. In fact, at least Whites were more critical of Obama whereas they think Trump is a real nationalist.

    Jews like you also hate Obama because he didn’t go hard enough on Iran, which is why your types started the birth certificate hoax.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Thomasina
  67. Ron Unz says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Though I wonder how representative of the US California really is. For one thing, it is much more Asian and somewhat more Hispanic than the rest of the country and comparatively less black. In states like Mississippi or Alabama, racial tension is much more visceral. Demographics of California cannot easily be replicated, and vice versa for Alabama.

    Sure, that’s entirely correct. But the column generally lumped together blacks, Latinos, and Asians, which is just completely ridiculous, and that drew my objection.

    Suppose somebody claimed that “non-white minorities such as blacks, Mexicans, and Asians” totally dominate professional basketball. I don’t think that would really be an accurate characterization of the situation.

    That said, I do think your rejoinder did not adress a key aspect of Striker’s argument, namely that open borders is bad for socialism. California is still neoliberal, even if racial tension is low.

    Sure, that part of his analysis was correct, and I didn’t dispute it. Indeed, I’ve pointed out the same thing in various articles over the years.

    • Replies: @Parsnipitous
  68. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    So when right-wingers or WN-types say otherwise, everyone in CA regards them as a bunch of total lunatics.

    ‘everyone in CA [from the social circles I run in] regards them as a bunch of total lunatics’.

    ‘Even my housekeeper and gardener both agree, that California is much better, now that all those right-winger, Alt-right types are leaving in droves’.

    perhaps?

    And since the big Tech companies are based here, it’s easier to persuade them to ban those lunatics from the Internet.

    Almost sounds like a tacit endorsement of the policy. Most curious, coming from you, Sir.

  69. Trinity says:
    @Thulean Friend

    Racial tensions are low in Commiefornia? Do you really think that Mexicans and Blacks get along well in California? Don’t know about Mississippi and Alabama, but I can imagine those two states are pretty much on par with their neighbor Georgia, which is the current state that I reside in. The ONLY RACISM seen on public display daily in Georgia is for the most part Black Racism. There is little White racism in Georgia even in rural areas. The old stereotype of the tobacco chewing, bourbon sipping, Georgia crackers and rednecks sitting on the porch and talking about “nigras” has all but vanished even in Southern and Northern Georgia small towns. If you really want to feel like you are in a cultural appropriation and multicultural twilight zone, then visit some small college town in Georgia where you will routinely see some good ole boy driving around with a Confederate Flag on his pickup while blaring rap music.

    The Deep South is a racist part of America, but it isn’t at all how it is depicted for the most part. Sure there might be scant little pockets of White racism where good ole boys drink beer while telling Black jokes to each other, but Black racism in Georgia is in your face, out in the open and very real for all to see. I would imagine Black and Brown racism is just as real in California as well. I have spoken to a California resident who told me how Hispanics/Mexicans routinely bully white kids in public school. I would imagine that as a white person that I would experience just as much anti-White racism in the heavily Mexican populated city of Los Angeles or the very “progressive” city of San Francisco, if not more than I do in the very heavily Black dominated city of Atlanta, Georgia.

    • Replies: @Old Guy
  70. Ron Unz says:
    @Just passing through

    Could the factoid about White voters supporting Trump less in immigrant heavy areas be attributed to bias in that the Whites who don’t like immigrants (and thus are likely to vote Trump) have moved out of these areas?

    Probably just to a slight extent. If you were using small geographical areas like a particular city, that would probably be a major factor. But California is a huge state, and people who don’t like non-whites can move to a different part of it. People have been leaving the state mostly because housing is so extremely expensive, the exact opposite of what you see in e.g. Detroit, Baltimore, or other dangerous areas with serious racial conflict.

    If you find this topic of interest, I’d strongly recommend my long article from 2011, whose analysis has proven almost entirely correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    I’d also point out that Trump’s anti-immigration issue was most popular in states like West Virginia, which have virtually no immigrants or Hispanics and where the voters get all their information on the topic from the total nonsense on FoxNews and Breitbart.

    • Replies: @tanabear
    , @FvS
    , @Corrupt
  71. @bjondo

    “I don’t expect Bernie to roll over and bark like ’16.”

    He might just agree on a price at an earlier stage than he did in ’16. I’ll bet that he’s reading real estate listings already.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  72. Old Guy says:
    @Ron Unz

    Agree 100%.

    The kind of racial division and tension that you see in NYC or Pittsburgh is completely different than what we see on the West Coast.

    I think it is best explained by the “11 Nations” explanation by Collin Woodard:
    – The South was settled as slave country, so of course there is clear and continuing racial tension.
    – New York and the Midwest were initially settled by people fleeing from the inter-religious wars of Europe – thus the emphasis on “Tolerance” but no unitary vision of society. Unitary visions resulted in the civil wars after all.
    – The Northeast was settled by Puritans who DID have a unitary vision of society, but were high-handed and elitist about it. Quintessential Elizabeth Warren types.
    – Appalachia was settled by anti-elitists just trying to get away from it all and be independent.
    – The West Coast was an interesting mix of Appalachian individualism and Puritan unitary vision. Thus, the West assimilates immigrants into society more than the Midwest and East Coast that merely “tolerate” them. At the same time, it isn’t as heavy-handed or top-down scolding as the Puritans on social issues.

    – I left out the sparsely populated “Interior West” or “Mountain West”. As the towns here are much smaller, with less economic expansion it seems there really is a smaller pie to share, thus there may likely be more direct competition between immigrants and native-born whites.

    One very curious thing that no one talks about is the “Great Plains” region (cutting across state lines east of the Rockies) which has among the best outcomes along almost every dimension: education rates, economic mobility, drug overdose rates, voting participation, resiliency during the 2008 economic crash, etc. Nonetheless, population there is shrinking overall, except where it is “in-filled” by immigrants.

    Education Spending Map: https://imgur.com/gallery/t70B9DT
    Economic Mobility:
    Drug Overdose Rates:

    Change in Population:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/fastest-growing-and-shrinking-counties-in-america-2019-4
    https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2014/12/changing-patterns-in-us-immigration-and-population

    • Replies: @Wally
  73. Anon[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Adorno and Horkheimer.

  74. Mr. Grey says:

    I think you meant Bernie endorsed Jesse Jackson’s 1988 campaign, not Al Sharpton.

  75. Trinity says:
    @Just passing through

    Never been to San Francisco but I would love it if you were to visit or even better live in or near the cities of Atlanta, Baltimore/Washington area, Philadelphia, Memphis, St. Louis, New Orleans and then come and tell me that Black racism isn’t alive and flourishing in all of these cities. I speak from actual living experience as far as Baltimore and Atlanta are concerned. IF I could be king for the day, I would love to have the power to mandate that all White members of Antifa be forced to live inside the city limits of any of the cities mentioned above. hahaha. Talk about poetic justice. I often wonder if or when these Antifa protestors are arrested if they are put into county lockup overnight or for a short stay. One can only imagine they are awakened to racial reality rather quickly if they happen to find themselves in a jail in one of these inner cities. lololol. Hell, I was stationed on Governors Island in the mid 1980s. GI is located just outside of Manhattan and only a 10-15 minute ferry ride from the city. Even back then, the non-white racism that I experienced or saw others experience was in your face in the multicultural heaven known as NYC. And NYC has gotten far browner and even more anti-White since the 1980s. Visiting a place for a week or two and doing tourist spots is far different than having to live and work in a place for years. lolol.

  76. @Anonymous

    I am 99% sure that he meant Adorno and Horkheimer instead of Adorno and Hofstadter. He was making this same mistake on yesterday’s (2/5/20) episode of Strike & Mike, and somehow Mike didn’t catch it.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  77. Old Guy says:
    @Trinity

    Racial relations in California are not quite the same as they are elsewhere.

    There seems to be the most resentment or tension from families who have been here for many generations (White or Black), or among richer whites moving to California from out-of-state.

    ” I have spoken to a California resident who told me how Hispanics/Mexicans routinely bully white kids in public school. ”
    – Where was that? I haven’t heard of that problem, unless it is a new thing. My High School in the suburbs (mixed white collar / blue-collar town) of the Bay Area was around 50% White and 50% everything else, and didn’t have any noticeable racial tension. People would notice racial differences and joke about stereotypes with each other, so as far as anecdotal evidence, that’s canceled out.

    Racial tensions seem to be worst in places where people have been there a long time. Then the inter-generational feuds have time to be handed down and assumptions and resentments have time to harden. Thus, in inner city Phoenix or Oakland you have minorities who have been there for generations and get “stuck” in the lower class, while in the suburbs of either city you have minorities who are 1st or 2nd generation new-comers (immigrants or out-of-staters) and don’t fit the racial-stereotype mold at all and have little-to-no racial grudge.

    How about in Georgia? In places where you have the highest number of new-comers is it much different than the places where people have been there for many generations?

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Rurik
  78. Anon[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Right you are. The labor protections that took Americans to achieve from 1810 with the Mass. shoe makers union to 1950 have been completely destroyed by the capitalist pigs employing of illegal alien 4th worlders Who never heard of paid overtime and think $100 a week for 90 hours work is just fine.

    This is a conservative site. Being conservative it’s very anti labor union, anti the 40 hour work week and paid overtime, time for lunch, and all the labor protections created over 200 years.

    It’s mostly White cubicle coolies proud of working at least 60 hours a week for 40 hours pay and gobbling down a snack while working at lunch time. And ignoring the fact that their wages, oh, excuse me office drone salary has stagnated since 1975.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @obwandiyag
  79. Trinity says:

    I bet I could change the minds of all those White Antifa, White Bernie Bros, or White BLM members after one brief stay in any large county lockup in some of our more diversified sections of the country. Better yet, have them stay in a California prison. Ironically, California prisons have some of the most stringent “racial codes” in the penal system. A white guy trying to pretend he is color blind in a California prison? haha.

  80. Old Guy says:
    @Thulean Friend

    “open borders is bad for socialism”

    This is true. Even if immigrants are white Europeans.

    (Source: Peter Turchin, Ages of Discord (2016))

    However, there is a history of socialists and unions starting with nativism and moving toward assimilation and anti-racism as a strategic choice. If they try to be “pure” and nativist, then the businesses just use immigrants as scabs to break the strikes. Thus, you need to unionize minorities too in order to keep any real power.

    A “caste system” is even worse than open legal immigration. And when you have “guest worker” programs (like we’ve had continually), or large-scale illegal immigration, you have a de-facto caste system.

    If the Right wants to cut down on illegal immigration, why not start throwing the EMPLOYERS of illegal immigrants in jail? That’ll cut down the numbers REAL quick.

  81. Vaterland says:
    @Ron Unz

    To be honest I expected this exact reply from you to Striker’s article. Many will disagree with you and might think of you as an “open borders Jew”, but in the end the question is, if one is ready to confront reality. And I would confirm what you say about the situation for the majority in the USA.

    I have been telling White Nationalists for some years now that they should move to Europe where the situation is very different. All things considered White Nationalism, whether one likes it or not, is a political dead end in the USA. Or worse: a few nut bolts end as terrorists like Brenton Tarrant, doing great harm to the right in general and the folkish cause in particular.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  82. Trinity says:
    @Old Guy

    That person was out of the Los Angeles area and I can very well imagine that a poor white kid is indeed bullied by Black and Brown alike if they are unfortunate enough to have to attend a school where they are in the minority.

    I have had the experience of being a racial minority among Blacks and Mexicans in the work force so I am speaking from REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. My experience with Blacks was very enlightening. haha. I could tell you some real stories with that one. On the other hand, the Mexicans that I worked alongside were pretty decent blokes and I NEVER seen a group of harder workers, no racism at all while working with mostly Mexicans with the exception of overhearing talk every now and then. And most of the racism that I would hear from Mexicans was directed more towards Blacks than good ole Whitey. But then again I wasn’t working with Mexican gang members or some Salvadoran MS13 members, just blue collar guys looking to make money.

    Georgia? The only spot in Georgia that continues to grow year after year is the Atlanta metro, with a scant few Yankees and ex-Floridians moving to the north Georgia mountains. WHY people continue to flock to Atlanta is beyond me, it is a crime infested sewer, the pay is low when matched with the cost of living there, the traffic is horrendous, even worst than D.C. , etc. Southern Georgia and Middle Georgia is still mostly just Black and White for the most part, a few more Hispanics who are mostly Mexican, and that is about it. Tons of Mexicans populate smaller north Georgia towns because of the chicken processing plants and meat packing plants. All of these chicken processing plants are predominately filled with Mexican employees. I can GUARANTEE you that there are some illegals in these plants. Must be tough work because I see just a tiny, tiny percentage of whites and blacks who are willing to work in those places.

    Btw, I spent years in Tampa, Florida, which is highly transient, and I can tell you that racial tensions in Tampa are nearly as bad as they are in Atlanta, Georgia. Once again, the racial tension is almost entirely Black racism. Right outside of Tampa off interstate 75 is perhaps the largest Confederate Flag in the world. You have to see this flag to believe the size of that thing. While living in Tampa we had more than a few Black riots go off in nearby St. Pete. I can tell you from REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE that Tampa is full of Black racism, self hating wiggers that are so confused that they join traditional black gangs like the Bloods and Crips to be used as “crash dummies.” So Tampa is a REAL WORLD EXAMPLE that blows your theory about transient places being less racist than non transient places out of the water.

    • Replies: @James Scott
  83. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve noticed that “European” blacks don’t seem to be as violent and toxic as “Anglo” blacks, ie blacks in the US and UK.

    For example, native French people seem to associate violent crime almost exclusively with Arab Muslims, I’ve never heard them make much of a big deal about blacks in France, they are mostly indifferent to them and don’t seem to particularly fear them in the way they fear Arabs/North Africans.

  84. Agent76 says:

    Jan 18, 2020 Bernie BLAMES Trump Even As Democrats And CNN Rig Primary Against Him, Sanders Is Not Strong Enough

    Bernie Sanders is just not strong enough to be president. He gets pushed around and cheated over and over again but just keeps bowing to the machine.

    Jan 15, 2020 Bernie And Warren Are IMPLODING Amid Dual Scandals, Sanders Staff PANICKING After Veritas Expose

    Just weeks before the Iowa Caucus and Bernie Sander’s staffers are shutting down their social media accounts due to the release of undercover videos from Project Veritas. it now seems that one of his staffers has responded.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  85. Rurik says:
    @Old Guy

    Racial relations in California are not quite the same as they are elsewhere.

    I know a little of Miami.

    I dated a girl who graduated in the seventies from Hialeah High school. I saw her yearbook, and all the faces were white.

    In the space of a couple of decades, you’d be hard pressed to find one white person in Hialeah. It’s been transformed, (like Dade county), into a Cuban/ Hispanic settlement, where white people are not only shut out of politics;

    https://www.miamidade.gov/commission/

    (not one white Gentile in the bunch).

    But when listening to the meeting of the Dade Country School Board, they were all gushing over each other, because of their successful efforts with a very aggressive Affirmative Action program, to make sure no Dade county school contracts were awarded to any white male-owned companies. (the tiny percentage of whom that haven’t yet been ethnically cleansed, anyways).

    And I have a strong suspicion, that for most of the current residents of Miami, (((and Miami Beach))), that the race relations are nothing to worry about, other than a few small pockets left in some redneck backwaters down by Homestead, that require some energetic focus on ‘community inclusion programs’.

    What seems abundantly clear, is that demographic shifts, are something that’s seen though the prism of ethno-subjectivity.

    The narrative today, is that all ethnocentrism is something to be celebrated, unless it’s practiced by Nazis, (white people). And so if your community is experiencing ‘positive, progressive’ changes, then it’s all to the good, (only right-winger, Alt-right type lunatics are whining- and they’re soon to be deplatformed, anyways, so it’s all good!).

    At least that’s how it seems (understatement of the century) to me.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @RadicalCenter
  86. Thomasina says:
    @Just passing through

    Trump “…has done diddly squat about social media companies censoring mainly White people for expressing dissident right opinions.”

    Yeah, I guess Trump should have tackled this issue somewhere between the Russiagate witch hunt, the Mueller investigation, Ukrainegate, impeachment, federal courts ignoring his orders, sanctuary cities, and the list goes on and on.

    Obama faced none of this. Fast and Furious? Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal? Bailing out Wall Street? You can keep your doctor? Murdering a sovereign leader (Gaddafi)? Orchestrating a coup in Ukraine? Trying to overthrow Syria? Where was his impeachment? That guy got treated with kid gloves.

    Trump has been hammered and pounded into the ground since 2016.

    If Trump was part of the elite, why would they continue to hammer him? They wouldn’t. They would have treated him like Obama, someone who protected the elite’s way of life.

    Trump is surrounded by neocons and entrenched forces within the State Department, DOJ, CIA, FBI. All he can do is expose them, which he is doing in his seemingly inept (I would argue “smart”) way.

    Without them going after Trump, we wouldn’t know about the corrupt politicians’ (Biden, Kerry, Pelosi, McCain) in Ukraine. We wouldn’t know about Soros’ involvement. We wouldn’t know that Trump was being spied on (most likely with the sanction of Obama) before and after he assumed office. We wouldn’t have the Burr and Durham investigations into who created Russiagate in order to take out Trump. I could keep going, but I won’t waste your time.

    I do not like how Trump panders to Israel and I don’t like his stance on Iran, but so far he hasn’t started a war, and I don’t think he will. He gives the neocons something (or else he’d be assassinated), but his most successful tactic is exposing the elite for who they are. People are now getting a glimpse of who is destroying their country.

    We will see what he does in his next term.

    • Agree: Rurik
  87. Arturo says:
    @Ron Unz

    There is another, subtler error in this article, the supposition that somehow socialism is only possible in homogeneous societies. This is absolutely risible historically speaking. Aside from pre-existing nation states in Eastern Europe, almost all socialist countries have been rather “diverse”. The USSR, India under the Congress Party, Ethiopia (and other African nations), Yugoslavia, the list goes on, with only idiosyncratic little North Korea to break it up. China is quite diverse, but as opposed to say, the USSR, the Party there IS a vehicle of the dominant ethnic group’s supremacy. And perhaps the author believes (falsely) that this diversity was monoracial, and thus not true diversity by the American WN standards, look no further than Cuba, a tri-racial socialist state now in its second half-century.

    It’s tiresome to read retreads of debunked or easily debunkable talking points on the Right, when there are so many good angles to take instead. But this might be asking too much from a Strasserite.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @tanabear
  88. Altai says:
    @Anon

    It’s mostly White cubicle coolies proud of working at least 60 hours a week for 40 hours pay and gobbling down a snack while working at lunch time. And ignoring the fact that their wages, oh, excuse me office drone salary has stagnated since 1975.

    It’s an autistic way of thinking. You’re not in an Amish community or a hunter-gatherer tribe, your extra work just benefits your boss and nobody else really. But there is a begrudger attitude (Ironically what they denounce those they see as being fueled by ‘envy’ of the elite) common among ‘conservatives’ and non-rich right-wingers towards others getting more for their work. A sense they’re taking something from them, ironically unlike the bosses and shareholders they demand keep their existing share. It’s a symptom of low empathy that tends to be more common on the right.

    Part of it also probably stems from America’s history of immigration and racial diversity. An aversion to paying taxes for social programs that go to ethnic displacers of older stock or non-blacks. You see a common pattern of a lot of ‘Libertarians’ in the South who are turning into channer style alt-right types. Their Libertarianism was never about abstract ideals but aversion to the black population around them. Any American who has ever seen Scandinavia would gladly pay their tax rates for the society they have. Americans have no idea how bad things have become in the US over the last 35 years in terms of living standards and the numerous pitfalls that can wipe out middle class wealth that are totally unknown in even the third world. (College debts, medical bills etc.)

    But as the article mentions, I don’t think America can ever muster the ethnic cohesion needed to fund these things it becomes like working extra hours for your boss, you work extra hours for ethnic outgroups who displace you.

  89. @Trinity

    I live in So Cal. The Mestizo’s are lazy. Anyone claiming Mestizo’s are hard workers is ignorant or a liar.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @obwandiyag
  90. @Ron Unz

    From your outdated Left/Right political paradigm, your response makes perfect sense. From a nationalist/globalist political paradigm, it makes no sense.
    I have been a nationalist for close to 50 years, and my opposition to immigration has always been economic. My city once had a large thriving needle trade. Post WWII, the local women weren’t interested in their low wages creating massive profits for the owners. The solution for the owners was to lobby for large numbers of Italian female immigrants, and when that tapered, Germans. By the late 60s the immigrants were fed up, so large scale immigration from the Philippines (seemingly endless) started, followed by smaller Indian, Loatian, and other Asian groups. When the WTO allowed global free trade, most of the needle trade was off-shored, leaving us with 10,000+ “new” unemployed citizens that had self ghettoized. The profits have remained, the jobs are gone. The immigration industry has moved into other areas, like meat packing plants, and the service industry. Apparently, White kids are incapable of serving coffee and donuts at a drive through, working in hospitals or as sales staff in big box stores, but “temporary foreign workers”, that become citizens, are.
    To perpetuate growth, which is impossible, the goal is higher populations to buy more unneeded crap made offshore, by companies competing for finite natural resources. As the price of the natural resources rise (in reality or artificially) labour costs must go down, so that the “immigrants” can buy more useless unneeded crap at their lower wages, and keep profits high. Suppressing wages and expectations while increasing consumers is what the immigration industry is all about. They don’t care what the race of the immigrants is, only that they are prepared to accept a lot less than the locals.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  91. Vaterland says:
    @Eric Novak

    by ((((((((((Steven P. Meyer and Jeffrey Steinberg)))))))))))

    I had expected an (((Andrew Breitbart))) type of damage control operation to take a factoid the semi-awakened reader may be aware of and prey upon the prejudices and wishful thinking of the target audience to fully misdirect and re-ensnare him. And boy did it not disappoint!

    Granted, it’s more sophisticated than JFK by (((Oliver Stone))) and actual Mossad spy Arnon Milchan in which the president was assassinated by gay Nazis(!). But only a little.

    “44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
    John 8:44-45

  92. Trinity says:
    @Rurik

    Miami is exhibit A, at least when it comes to America, when you want show how nonwhites will discriminate against Whites when those nonwhites come into power. I can only imagine how Whites are being shutout in places like Los Angeles, and I can bet that sections of Texas are the same. Johannesburg, South Africa would be exhibit A for the world in what happens to Whites when nonwhites have total power and control. Or in the case of Jewish power and influence look no further than the old Soviet Union and modern day America and Europe. Are any of these systems better off than National Socialist Germany during the pre-war years when Hitler turned Germany around and became Time Magazine man of the year, or when America was run by White men who weren’t being controlled by Zionist globalists? Socialism can work in the case of all White homogeneous nations who have a racial love for their own kind. Socialism in nonwhite societies like Cuba, or (((communist))) nations run by Jewish Supremacists aren’t meant to improve life for the masses, they are meant to control the masses through fear and creating a societies of people who have to depend on the gubmint for everything.

    Socialism appeals to most nonwhites and underachieving Whites but do these clowns really think that (((communism lite))) is going to benefit them in the end. Someone mentioned that Cuba was tri-racial? I think the best term for Cuba would be that Cuba is mostly made up of people who are of a mixed race background sprinkled with some White Cubans and some Cubans who are predominately negro.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  93. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:

    Most of the countries you’ve cited aren’t particularly diverse. USSR was by far majority Slav and the non-Slav minority were mostly in their own Soviet Republics and acted in many ways as separate countries, there was no “diversity” there like the modern US.

    India admittedly has a large North/South language divide, but the people are racially similar, are majority Hindu and all identify as Indian, also like the USSR the different linguistic communities in India are mostly confined to their own states, there isn’t much “diversity” in that sense. I don’t think that sort of “diversity” is really akin to US “diversity”, same goes for the African countries you mention.

    As for Yugoslavia, they were all South Slavs who spoke the same language except for the Albanian minority. The only divide there was Catholicism, Orthodoxy and to a lesser extent Islam, there was no diversity in any other sense between South Slavs.

    As for China, I’m not sure why you claim that is diverse. Most people think of China and its massive Han Chinese population as the epitome of a homogeneous society.

    Frankly the only socialist country you’ve cited that I would agree is somewhat diverse is Cuba, although it’s debatable how diverse really because it seems to me that most of the ruling class and a large chunk of the population in Cuba is of Spanish/European origin and is mostly unmixed and I would imagine that even most Cubans who are mixed identify as Spanish/Hispanic, so once again this is not modern multicultural diversity in the sense of a country like the US.

    • Replies: @Artur
  94. jsigur says:

    truth is whatever a Jew can get the goyim to believe

  95. Agent76 says:

    Oct 25, 2019 “State of Emergency”: Special Report on California’s Criminalization of Growing Homeless Encampments

    California has become the poster-child for this economic and humanitarian disaster, with growing encampments in Los Angeles and the Bay Area as more people are forced onto the streets.

    Sep 6, 2018 The Hidden Homelessness Crisis In California (HBO)

    There is a shortage of affordable housing in every state in the country, but it’s especially bad in California — where there’s only one affordable housing unit for every five extremely low income households.

  96. @anarchyst

    Taxes never have to be levied much less raised. Ask Abe Lincoln. How did he win the civil war without raising taxes or borrowing money? He printed actual government paper money as if they were minted coins. People accepted the money because the money was good for paying the taxes levied by states who could not mint coins or print money to run their governments.

    When the government mints coins it never needs to tax or borrow to mint them. It’s only expense is the cost of metal and minting. When you do the same thing with paper it is even cheaper.

    What we have today is not actual government money — we have bank notes.

    The federal government can never run out of money. It can print all it needs without borrowing or taxing just like it would do if all money were minted coins. The advantage of coins over money is that they are much harder to counterfeit; the downside is that coins are more expensive.

    But banks HATE government money. They will do anything to ruin it or prevent its issue. Literally anything. They want bank notes to be our money. And they want you and I to be taxed to pay for them.

    There is plenty of money for Medicare for All and UBI and all kinds of projects that “promote the general welfare of the people.” You do like Lincoln did. He printed it, he paid his soldiers with it, he paid his suppliers with it and he won the war with it.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  97. Thomasina says:
    @Agent76

    If a person was only slightly skeptical, they’d say that Bernie’s overriding intent appears to be riling up and bringing in Democrat voters, that he doesn’t really care if he wins or not. He embraced Hillary in 2016 after getting screwed by her, fought for her election, and went right along with the Russiagate hoax.

    If a person was very skeptical, they’d say the Democrats are imploding ON PURPOSE. Let’s face it, the elites running the country belong to a uniparty.

    This uniparty does not want any part of socialism. They appear to be, without saying it, destroying the Democrats in order to hand the election to Trump. Of course, it all looks like a good fight, but I’m wondering if there’s really any fight at all.

    Just a thought.

  98. Our gracious host, Mr. Ron Unz, has frequently hit this theme about the so-called “bland” and “boring” politics in California. I imagine there is a thumping and banging tribal sanguinary subtext to racial conflict in California and it could break out into open racial conflict at any moment. California has 40 million people and there must be potential multicultural mayhem lurking beneath the surface of the “bland” and “boring” politics of the state.

    I wrote this to Ron Unz back in September of 2019 about the so-called “bland” and “boring” politics in California:

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration increases traffic congestion, spreads urban and suburban sprawl, increases housing costs, lowers wages, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, harms the environment and destroys cultural cohesion and cultural integrity.

    Raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent and watch how fast the politics in California will go from bland to extra crispy interesting. California is kept afloat by monetary extremism and clam raking tax loot from the plutocrats who have made out like bandits because of asset bubbles created by the Federal Reserve Bank.

    The Fed now says a little over 2 percent is the new normal high for the federal funds rate. Yellen was talking about “normalizing” to 4 percent, but that was deemed too high. California will be a smoky charred asset bubble wreck when the cheap money comes to an end.

    California could be strategically imploded like an out-of-date scam sports stadium set to make way for another scam sports stadium very quickly. Collapse the cheap money asset bubbles and watch the California smash up action.

    The current ruling class in California can be sent into forcible exile in sub-Saharan Africa after the forces of the historic American nation reclaim the California land.

    First we take California and then we take Europe!

    https://www.unz.com/article/white-latino-relations-in-americas-southwest/#comment-3439609

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  99. Bernie Sanders is about to find out, just as Jeremy Corbyn found out recently in the UK ,that democratic socialists can’t get elected in plutocracies where billionaires , multi-millionaires and corporate interests own the mass media and control the voting machines and apps : “Anti-Sanders billionaires [top donor Seth Klarman]behind the app that delayed Iowa’s voting results ” By Max Blumenthal , informationclearinghouse.info. :
    “[Billionaire] Klarman is the owner of the Times of Israel , an Israeli media outlet that once published a call for Palestinian genocide .(The op-ed was ultimately withdrawn following public backlash “

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  100. Rurik says:
    @Trinity

    Socialism can work in the case of all White homogeneous nations who have a racial love for their own kind.

    the point of suggesting that socialism (or communism) work in heterogeneous societies, is to further the eternal agenda, of genociding whitey, by telling him that as Africans and Asians and Middle Easterners and Latin Americans, all come pouring into their countries, to feast on the carcass of a soul-dead people, psychologically destroyed by generations of Jewish supremacist movies and TV and university- force-injected spiritual sewage, that everything will be wonderful, once those Nazi-type naysayers are shouted down, and stomped on by the collective hatred of the vibrants and their ((masters)).

    England will be a paradise, ((they tell us)) once the last ethnic is Brit, is blended away for all time.

    I like Mexicans, and yes, they generally are a hard-working bunch. I like a lot of Haitians I’ve known, and most people, black, white, Jewish or whatever, are generally good and decent people. But they’re not whites, from Western or Northern Europe, and so they don’t create the same kind of societies.

    If you replace the Fins, in Helsinki, with Africans, then in no time flat, Helsinki will look and smell and have ubiquitous violent crime, like Africa.

    If you swapped the population of Switzerland with the Congo, soon there’d be cannibalism and toddler rape in Switzerland, while the Congo would become a banking mecca, with safe streets and pleasant people.

    But if you mixed them (Jewish supremacist are getting boehners), and blended them together, (Jewish supremacists orgasms), then you’d destroy both their ways of life, and there wouldn’t be a Switzerland for Jewish supremacists to rage at, with unhinged, murderous envy.

    That’s what all of this is about.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  101. Artur says:
    @Anonymous

    I assumed someone would try this no true scotsman stuff, but I didn’t think it would be so transparent. In all those countries, the supposedly “not really diverse” populations were at each other’s throats before, during, and after socialism, and the attendant authoritarianism of socialism if anything made them more stable. The were not very racially diverse, but that is historically an American situation, and the relevant differences elsewhere were sufficient to cause century upon century of conflict and bloodshed. Whereas for all its racial diversity, this has not really been the case in the Americas, where tension might be the rule, but constant partisan warfare between religiously, socially, linguistically, and racially diverse bands is the rule.

  102. Trinity says:
    @James Scott

    I can’t speak for Mexicans in California but the ones that I have worked with and for were some of the hardest working people that I have ever worked with or seen. I worked with lots of Mexicans from all over for a company that was located in Georgia that made automobile rims in the machining department and temps would reach over 100 degrees. We worked seven days a week and often times 12 hours a day Monday thru Friday, with 8 hour shifts on the weekend ( only 2 shifts after they dumped the third and they were closing the plant) for over a year. Most of the Mexicans there worked EXTREMELY HARD AND THEY NEVER MISSED. As I stated these Mexicans were from all over the place, our parking lot had tags from Arizona, Texas, New York, etc., as well as Georgia. Wonder how many were illegal. No lie, we had a Mexican that claimed to have the first name of Leroy, even the Black supervisor laughed at that one. I worked with Mexicans in Florida in a deli production manufacturing plant for a large supermarket chain and same thing there.

    I will tell you this, I would rather work with Mexicans and Orientals over MOST Whites and definitely over most Blacks. Stereotypes are often TRUE, but for the life of me I don’t know how the “lazy Mexican” stereotype came about. I worked with a couple of Mexicans who were brothers and they were from California born and bred and they were EXTREMELY HARD WORKERS.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  103. Vaterland says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    The Times of Israel has a lot of interesting things to publish. Like the reference to an Op-Ed of Israel National News suggesting to nuke Iran and Germany:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/op-ed-calls-on-israel-to-nuke-germany-iran/

    It’s one of those things that led me to cut all my mainstream ties into Zionist influenced new right media. Irreversibly.

    • Agree: utu
  104. Thomasina says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Totally agree, Charles. California is as artificial as the close each day on Wall Street, manufactured and engineered by cheap money. Everything always appears rosy when times are good.

    Chaos is right below the surface.

  105. @Ron Unz

    Again this is a fantastic website, thank-you for responding.

    It’s not very complicated.

    Agreed, it isn’t very complicated.

    Since immigration drives population-growth, it’s been an important factor behind those problems, but that’s very different from alleging racial conflict with immigrants.

    >”very different from alleging racial conflict with immigrants”.

    So immigrants are causing a housing affordability crisis & a transport crisis.

    People are leaving as a result of this immigrant catalysed housing crisis.

    People are leaving as a result of this immigrant catalysed public transport system crisis.

    As many as can possibly leave.

    Mainly one ethnicity and ideology based on the evidence leaving as a result of alien immigration causing a housing crisis and a traffic crisis.

    But that’s, god forbid, Yahweh witness me, reform Jew God of the moderates observe, absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH THE IMMIGRANTS.

    Ron you’re more intelligent then this. I know you are, I’ve read your material.

    How is it possible to say in the same breath 2 factors caused by mass immigration causing mass exodus, and then say it has nothing to with the immigration and nothing to with animus related to it?

    And those are only first order factors. The second order factors around land-banking paralysis and ethnic modulated local planning laws is the next layer.

    California is never going to solve it’s housing crisis.

    Literally this is the sentence ‘I will never afford a house… (dunh dunh dunh) because of immigrants

    So those 3 dots mean it isn’t racial. It’s just an inert, totally static race-neutral economic issue. I’m sorry if this seems aggravating, but it’s a response to a logic chain that just seems not just bizarre, but utterly perverse.

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/12/27/americans-fled-blue-states-hundreds-thousands-due-high-taxes-high-crime-rates/

    In 2016 and 2017 138,000 California residents left the State.

    But the population inflow was still +27,000 that year due to immigration.

    And it has nothing to with race?

    This phenomenon has been going on for years and years. Could that be the basis for a false consensus when Californians shut their eyes and cover their ears and autistically rock themselves pretending all is right with the world?

    https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html

    The Latino population overtook the white population in California as of 1 July 2014. So how has California been thriving as a La Raza metropolis since that time? Well they can’t provide electricity, or water, or quell fires, or provide housing. Oh okay.

    [MORE]

    This is what Theodore Beale said at that time:

    “Now, if the Left’s Geographic theory that human behavior is predominantly determined by the physical location of the human being is correct, California should prosper and its economy should boom with all of these hardworking immigrants seeking the prosperity and opportunity afforded them by the environment and infrastructure there. If, on the other hand, the Genetic theory is correct and the Aztecs are qualitatively inferior to the declining Anglos in some capacity, we should expect to see California continue to rapidly decline by a broad panoply of metrics and the infrastructure break down as the political preferences of the majority Hispanic population, which has no connection whatsoever to the historic Constitution, traditional American ideology, and the Rights of Englishmen upon which the United States was originally founded.”

    So who was right? Taking into account that if the imbeciles who apparently write the local editorials in California don’t notice the Typhus and the feces and the water shortages and the electricity blackouts or the crime, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t happening.

    And none of this repelling and attracting based around ethnic magnetism has ‘anything’ to do with race?

    What happens Ron, when there is nowhere left to go because the California outflows have led to the Californication of the surrounding states?

    This is Beale’s challenge to the Liberals who claim California is some kind of diversity Mecca and Zion even as everybody with the resources is getting out as fast as they can.

    “I’m just curious what it will take for advocates of the Geographic theory to give it up. California declaring bankruptcy? The complete elimination of the white race from the state? California seceding and joining Mexico? The construction of pyramids and resumption of human sacrifice? Or is your faith in it simply unshakeable by evidence?”

    I’m sorry, but what Mr Unz says about Hispanic households as net economic contributors is a total, lie.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/study-more-than-7-in-10-california-immigrant-households-are-on-welfare/

    “The latest Census Bureau data analyzed by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) finds that about 72 percent of households headed by noncitizens and immigrants use one or more forms of taxpayer-funded welfare programs in California — the number one immigrant-receiving state in the U.S.”

    Meanwhile, only about 35 percent of households headed by native-born Americans use welfare in California.

    All four states with the largest foreign-born populations, including California, have extremely high use of welfare by immigrant households. In Texas, for example, nearly 70 percent of households headed by immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare. Meanwhile, only about 35 percent of native-born households in Texas are on welfare.

    In New York and Florida, a majority of households headed by immigrants and noncitizens are on welfare. Overall, about 63 percent of immigrant households use welfare while only 35 percent of native-born households use welfare

    I mean, what is it going to take in terms of evidence? Oh look, it was Breitbart that reported Census Bureau Data. That must mean that it’s wrong.

    How is this possible? When does the transition point to net tax paying status occur? California’s debts aren’t a problem right? So who is going to pay for them?

    This is an evidence free discourse.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-14/greatest-water-crisis-history-united-states

    More on that water crisis.

    Oh babby, don’t be so silly, if it’s in Zerohedge, it isn’t real. And it’s disturbing that there seems to be tacit support for the deplatforming and closure of any outlet that is opposed to what looks to be clearly a daft viewpoint on California’s status as a racial exemplar for post-America. If that happened, and Unz wasn’t included, that would be a pretty clear signal.

    Americans like not having Typhus, or getting Aids from stepping on a needle, and having water to drink, and having houses they can live in, and having a democratic voice that isn’t blocked by racial blocs.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/25/california-democrats-feinstein-leon-423452

    I mean, California’s politics aren’t even staid within the Jewish community alone. Why did the DNC refuse to endorse it’s Jewish senator?

    Your own promising political career seemed to come ashore on the rocks of identity. And I say that regretfully because you would have been a vast improvement on the status quo, regardless of the penumbras.

    That kind of hard-edged move against Jews never tends to end quietly.

    So to go back to your point about 2016, what’s going to happen as the California white DNC denizens get the Feinstein treatment and on an accelerating force trajectory start getting removed from all positions of influence and status in the state of colour? What’s going to happen? Where will they go? It isn’t going to happen? Really? Feinstein probably thought it could never happen, given her service .

    California was ruined in 2010 under proposition 25, when the Juden and their diversity friends passed a law that stated the number of votes required to pass the state budget and spending bills related to the budget was reduced from two-thirds to a simple majority.

    And yes, California has the tech companies – but even tech companies have to be incorporated into local cash-flows, and even the tech companies need some kind of tax-paying population base.

    So you say that houses are unaffordable for some reason, but it has nothing to do with race.

    That’s funny.

    Jennifer Rubin was saying the same wrong thing in 2011.

    https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2011/12/24/california-there-it-went/

    If the whole country ‘didn’t’ vote like California, does that really support a view that the Californian scenario is a barometer for suitable policy for the entire country?

    One suspects those old screwball whites in California are just a little further down the curve.

    Sedate California politics in which the Asians are fighting the Jews and Hispanics.

    “Trump had made immigration concerns a central element of his 2016 campaign, but that theme fell totally flat in America’s most heavily immigrant state, with white Californians supporting Trump at a rate 20-25 points lower than whites in the rest of the country. Indeed, if the entire white national electorate had voted like its Golden State counterpart, Trump would have lost all fifty states, mostly by huge landslides, suffering by far the greatest electoral disaster in American history. All the Trump-hating pundits would have spent Election Night laughing and saying “I told you so!”

    Okay, here’s a different version.

    “If the entire voting electorate had voted with it’s feet like those in the Golden State counterpart, America would have lost all of it’s people, suffering by far the greatest demographic diaster in American history. All the Nationalist pundits would have spend any given night laughing and saying “I told you”!”.

    And yet again, we see commenting about London that implies that the white flight from London doesn’t exist, and the crime doesn’t exist, and the decay doesn’t exist, and it’s a diverse paradise, and anyone who says otherwise is just a Breibart loon.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9888310/Lets-talk-about-the-exodus-of-600000-whites-from-London.html

    The record population movement was well underway as long ago as 2013.

    https://qz.com/1251974/white-people-leave-diverse-neighborhoods-for-racial-reasons-not-economic-ones/

    Oh look, people of colour running the white racism trope are noticing that white people don’t want to live in diversity material and intellectual squalor.

    So who is right?

    All the factual matrices? Or the Platonic fake opinions of the Utopians and moderates?

    One could go on and on. But in the end, comme ci comme ca, we will see.

    But at this point it’s actually amusing to witness.

  106. Trinity says:
    @Rurik

    SPOT ON AND WELL SAID!!!

    • Thanks: Rurik
  107. @Anon

    You got it. The fools on this website, as has always been the case with their ilk, act against their own interests. And if you try to point out that they would be better off in a hundred ways under a mildly socialistic system, they start in with the Soviet Union. OK. Go ahead and starve, because Soviet Union reasons, Soviet Union reasons, etc.

  108. The author wrote:

    “The Jewish finance-capitalist made his $60 billion dollar fortune through New York City ethnic networks not available to white Gentiles….”

    What networks? Where’s your proof? I doubt you have any.

  109. @James Scott

    Try picking tomatoes. I dare you. Try. For one 8 hour shift. I’ll bet you a thousand dollars you won’t last the whole shift.

    This is a fact known by all tomato farmers in the US. All American, they say, and that means ALL, including you, are too weak to pick tomatoes. They don’t mean weak-minded or weak-willed. They mean literally to physically weak to pick tomatoes. These farmers offer Americans 16 dollars an hour. They come out to the farm, work 4 hours and quit. They cannot do it. They are literally to weak. As are you, I assure you, tough guy.

    Mexicans, on the other hand, including Mexican women and children, can pick tomatoes all day. Because they are literally stronger than you.

    You are the ignorant liar.

    And by the way, I, like Cesar Chavez, oppose immigration and open borders. Any good socialist and unionist does.

    • Replies: @Kyle
  110. @Curmudgeon

    What is wrong? This site is starting to get posters who, like you, aren’t clueless. Something is going wrong. More “moderation” is needed. Alert our minders.

  111. RKM2 says:

    Easily one of the best articles I’ve read on Unz.
    Ron Unz has got some of the best and brightest
    “public intellectuals” – mostly unknown to the
    rest of the world – writing today. Atzmon, Shamir,
    Lin Dinh, Striker, and Unz himself are all top
    of the class thinkers/writers. This site is one of my
    “must reads” of the day.

  112. @Arturo

    Well, I wonder about that as well. But it does seem to me that any government (socialist or any other) that is diverse is much more susceptible to wedges put between groups. The more that groups of people distrust each other, the less they are likely to support a government program. I have certainly seen that in the US. States with homogeneous populations seem to have governments that work better than those with highly disparate groups who don’t trust one another. I have been in both kinds and the difference is stark.

    The fact that some socialist countries might be quite successful with disparate populations does not disprove that they could be a lot more successful with homogeneous ones.

  113. Trinity says:

    Face it, the ONLY people that benefit by turning traditionally White nations into multicultural stew are NONWHITES and especially Jews. THAT IS THE COMPLETE TRUTH AND EVERYONE OUT THERE KNOWS IT.

    I do not hate other races, HOWEVER, I do not wish to live in a nation that is predominately nonwhite for that would DESTROY MY NATION AND MY WAY OF LIFE. As you can see that I am not a “racist” therefore I had no problem identifying Mexican workers as hard workers for the most part, the same could be said of Orientals, HOWEVER, let them live among themselves and make their own countries great. Traditionally White nations GAIN NOTHING through multiculturalism or flooding their countries with often hostile nonwhite people from foreign nations who are looking for nothing but handouts and have no loyalty to Western culture or our way of life. Matter of fact in a lot of instances many nonwhite immigrants purposely wish to come to America and Europe to destroy our way of life instead of embracing it.

    Any white person of European ancestry who wishes his nation to lose its majority White population through flooding their nation with nonwhite immigrants whether those immigrants are legal or illegal is definitely either brainwashed and educated by the system of anti-White propaganda, or retarded. Nonwhites HAVE to live in a Northeast Asian nation like Japan or in traditional White nations to reap the benefits of living in a modern day society. Sure, nonwhite nations like Israel for example are modern first world nations but we all know that is only possible by sucking on American and European teat.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  114. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:

    ”you will never have socialism without nationalism”

    very true in this case… of massive immigration and labor force replacement..at least not for a while, 3-4 generations until the descendants of the original immigrants become ‘citizens’

    hahahaha! good wood for the western left..total defeat.

    the western left are not in sync with reality, of the demands of their class interests at this current stage..to the extent they can put up the no opposition, sophisticated enough, delay or modifiy capitalist planes to derail working class interest in the west…in this case citizen replacement by mass immigration

    Bernie Sanders is a kind of joke isnt he, relative to the job he has taken on -to win the american presidency as a leftist/socialist candidate. Bernie is a comin and a fool, in constant sabotage of himself and his interests.

    Bernie Sanders is J Corbyn, the English Labor Party leader..same type of man..incompetent and unequal to the job the occupy, and the even bigger job they seek..leaders of their nations.

    both men were and are very poor politicians, bad advertisment for the political ideology they represented. they were and are both political turn-offs. and both sabotaged/sabotage themselves constantly.

    early I saw Cobyn as a political clown and ignored him, droped any and all positive expectation of his canidacy as Labor leader.

    I did the same with Bernie Sanders last time when he allowed his derailment at the democratic convention, failed ignominiously allowing the success of all manner of games played on him without fight back.

    and here he is again, after all that experience last time, repeating the same crap again..as if he learned absolutely nothing from his experience 4 years ago . what the hell is that then……?

    that is incredible! right at the moment capitalism is failing, representing the best opportunity the politcally organized left has had to win at the ballot in England and the USA, we have both leftist poltical vehicles led by two of the most weak-minded, politcally incompetent and generally unatractive left candididates imaginable, immersed in self sabotage and obvious weak-minded nonsense, turning off millions of would be voters for the left all the time..leaders who cant accept victory… EVEN WHEN THEY WIN!!!!

    Sanders and Corbyn must be a clown show..incompetent men, calculatingly finessed into the left political party leadership to produce the exact results they have achieved..utter failure of the organized politcal left..when the left should be winning hands down.

    I can bever take Bernie Sanders seriously. Sanders should be on a stage soemwhere making audices laugh as a comedian with his poltical act

    take a look at Bernie Sanders through the eyes of Peter Lavenia Ph:d:
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/05/after-iowa-does-bernie-have-what-it-takes/

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  115. @Anonymous

    Um, throughout their entire careers.

    (ps, wrt a side comment above, it might make nominal sense to say Horkheimer is more relevant than Hofstadter, but Hofstadter is guilty of this stuff too. Pretty much every academic Tribesman is when you look close enough. Pathologizing Whites collectively and Christianity institutionally is all part of the play book, and has been since long before Freud; as has pretending that so-called “anti-semitism” is a spontaneous, inexplicable, magically-erupting group psychosis, rather than a cause-and-effect response to observable concrete circumstances.)

  116. @Vaterland

    That is not quite true. There are many states in the midwest and west that are still very white. But it is always the east and west and south that make the news.

  117. @Rurik

    Speaking of Miami, you know a city has been thoroughly colonized by aliens when even the Chinese restaurant owners speak to you in (terrible) Spanish. (Happened to me when I was down there seeing the Marlins with an old friend)

  118. @davidgmillsatty

    I’m coming around to your view on this, counselor, as I learn more:

    https://www.publicbankinginstitute.org/

    Good hefty tome by L.A. lawyer Ellen Brown on this concept:

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  119. Truth3 says:

    Speaking of Old Jews (sort of the New Old Bolsheviks) see that Kirk Douglas died at 103.

    Imagine the look on his face when he saw Christ’s thorn-pierced forehead.

    And all the Palestinian martyrs.

    That would be… Before his Judgment.

    But that’s OK… Jews don’t believe in Heaven anyway.

  120. @anon

    Both the UK and the US are plutocracies , the oligarchs – Bloomberg for example -will ensure that a democratic socialist will never get elected as PM or President .

    bbc.com : “Study : US is an oligarchy , not a demcocracy ” :
    “The US is dominated by a rich and powerful elite . So concludes a recent study by Princeton University Prof Martin Gillens and Northwestern University Prof Benjamin Page …America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened .”
    Eric Zuess writing in Counterpunch was not surprised by the results of the study , stating:
    “American democracy is a sham , no matter how much it’s pumped up by the oligarchs [like Trump in his State of the Union speech?] who run the country and control the nation’s news media . The US , in other words , is basically similar to Russia or most other dubious ‘electoral’ ‘democratic’ countries .
    We weren’t formerly, but we clearly are now .”
    As they say in Davos and at Bilderberg meetings : “It’s a selection, not an election”.

  121. @Anonymous

    Adorno was influential in the 40’s and 50’s. Hofstadter joined him in the 60’s Both Jews by the way. By the late 60’s the academic liberal arts and social sciences were Jewed to the hilt. If you raised questions about male or female nature or organic racial differences you were seen, not as a philosophical opponent, but as a nut case. It was still permissible to talk about social class in marxist courses but try making the class system an issue in real life politics and you were suspected of being a looney white guy. Women’s, blacks and increasingly homosexual issues were “where it was at” I grew up in a catholic working class milieus. When I went to university, I thought I was escaping from that milieu into an intellectually free environment. Actually all I did was exchange one kind of priest for another – a defacto rabbi actually. If you were from my kind of background – rare in the schools I went to – and questioned any of this pre PC – PC you were suspected of backsliding into your working class or Catholic upbringing which was manifestly inferior to Jewishness or Episcopalianism type protestantism – though no one would actually say that at least to my face,. The University in the 1970’s was as intellectually stultifying as the way I grew up. But the vocabularies were larger and the reading lists longer

  122. Shaman911 says:

    Jewish Freemasonry

    “One believes things because
    He has been conditioned to believe them”
    Aldous Huxley 33* Jewish Freemason

  123. @Miro23

    I think most people don’t even know what National Socialism was. It is usually called “Nazi” which brings to my mind some sort of creature with tentacles. But yeah, Social Nationalism I like that. I am calling myself Social Nationalist from now on. Thanks

  124. lysias says:
    @Miro23

    National socialism is a good description of what China now has, and it seems to be succeeding very well. Certainly better than our system here in the U.S.

    I suspect the increasing hostility to China increasingly evident the past couple of years in the American ruling class is due to the fear that Americans may conclude that the Chinese system is worth imitating.

  125. lysias says:
    @SafeNow

    Spanish is not that hard a language to learn.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  126. Cornelius says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    I think it’s going to be Bloomberg though. He’s been busy buying black Mayors. He understands the ward system and how Democrats get voters to the polls.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  127. @lysias

    Israel of course, ironically, has both “national socialism” in the sense of aggressively prioritizing the social welfare of the nation, and also literal Nazism of the scary-movie variety: evil, racist, supremacist, paranoid, corrupt, obsessed with grandiose territorial designs, and violently repressive towards its racial and cultural enemies.

    It’s no exaggeration to say that Israelis are both sensible National Socialists and also actual, evil, if-the-shoe-fits Nazis.

    • Replies: @Achilles Wannabe
  128. tanabear says:
    @Ron Unz

    People have been leaving the state mostly because housing is so extremely expensive, the exact opposite of what you see in e.g. Detroit, Baltimore, or other dangerous areas with serious racial conflict.

    Ron unintentionally mentions how terrible things are in California. If the quality of life is getting worse in a particular area you would expect housing values to decrease just as they have in places like Detroit and Baltimore. When property values increase you tend associate that with a better quality of life. But in California you get a deteriorating quality of life with increasing property values; a true dystopian nightmare. Property values in cities like Baltimore and Detroit collapsed as the quality of life went into the gutter; exactly as you would expect.

    Also there is no real racial conflict in places like Baltimore, Detroit or Chicago. The violence is primarily between blacks. The only time racial conflict becomes an issue is the rare case where a white police office shoots a black suspect and media firestorm ensues.

    But there can be no real racial conflict between whites and other groups. Whites don’t have any collective political power to resist their communities being flooded by non-whites. Whites have only one option, flee. This has been termed “white flight”. White people today are like bunny rabbits. Whenever there is a threat they just have to run and hide. This is their only course of action. When a fox chases a bunny rabbit and the rabbit gets away there is technically no “conflict”, but there is still an attack on the rabbit. This is what the non-rich, blue-collar whites feel on a daily basis and this struggle is largely invisible to the elites.

    If white people defended their hive like honeybees that would be a different story.

    • Replies: @Slimer
    , @Trinity
  129. tanabear says:
    @Arturo

    There is another, subtler error in this article, the supposition that somehow socialism is only possible in homogeneous societies

    Socialism is possible in any society, whether it is the kind of socialism that people desire is another matter. When Bernie Sanders was being interviewed by Vox back during the 2016 campaign he listed his four favorite countries, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland. What a coincidence! Of all the countries in the world to choose from he picks a few small northern European nations. When liberals today talk about “socialism” they mean a country with high trust, social capital and where thing run smoothly and effectively. You cannot get these things in a diverse society. Ask a liberal to name a non-white or even southern European socialist country they admire.

    There is Scandinavian social welfare “socialism”, and then there is the Latin American class warfare variant of “socialsm”. In diverse societies you get the latter, but people always prefer the former.

  130. anarchyst says:
    @Trinity

    Another troubling aspect of today’s immigrants is the fact that they are not taught about the uniqueness of the united States Constitution. Many of these immigrants cling to their “old country” ways, and have no problem if our Constitution and “Bill of Rights” are both abrogated by the passage of unconstitutional laws, statutes, and yes, even unconstitutional abuses.

    A good example of this is the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the united States which is the most abrogated and restricted “right” in the “Bill of Rights”.

    The Constitution of the united States is a prohibition on the federal government imposing laws regarding certain inalienable God-given “rights”. Our “rights” are endowed by our Creator, and, as such, are ours because of our humanity. Our “rights are not “granted” by governments.

    This is why jew Ruth Bader Ginsburg lamented that the American Constitution was “flawed” compared to the South African “constitution”.

    You see, in every other country, “rights” come from their respective governments and are actually “permissions”. The Constitution of the united States is the only document in the world that declares that our rights are inherent in our humanity, come from our Creator, and cannot be abrogated or taken away by governments…

    THAT is the difference, which is never taught in public schools today…or to immigrants.

  131. FvS says:
    @Ron Unz

    How can all these mestizo immigrants afford to live in California if the housing is so expensive?

    But California is a huge state, and people who don’t like non-whites can move to a different part of it.

    But they probably wouldn’t if they were angry at the state for letting non-whites into their county/city/neighborhood in the first place. Here’s what’s happening. Mestizo immigration has been causing the more ethnocentric, average income whites to leave the state for a while now. And then rich, liberal whites have been moving in from states like New York, New Jersey, and Illinois.

    I’d also point out that Trump’s anti-immigration issue was most popular in states like West Virginia, which have virtually no immigrants or Hispanics and where the voters get all their information on the topic from the total nonsense on FoxNews and Breitbart.

    Do you actually think that California is better off today because of mass immigration from Latin America? Do you think West Virginia would be better off if 40% of its population was mestizo?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  132. @Ron Unz

    Your original comment was ambiguous as to which of Striker’s points you faulted. Plus, there was some derision regarding ‘alt-right-types’ and oddly mixing Breitbart with VDare, which prompted many replies.

    Having mere glancing familiarity with CA, I can’t argue with your expertise, but quite a few readers responded negatively to your idea of a tranquil inter-racial lagoon there.

    Besides, the main drive of the article was that a nationally scoped reassessment of ‘leftism’ is needed, in that its current anti-labor, anti-white, anti-oppressed manifestation doesn’t work.

  133. Ron Unz says:
    @FvS

    Here’s what’s happening. Mestizo immigration has been causing the more ethnocentric, average income whites to leave the state for a while now. And then rich, liberal whites have been moving in from states like New York, New Jersey, and Illinois.

    Look, the problem with this debate is that I’m focusing upon empirical reality while the agitated people arguing with me are basing their opinions upon the fantasies they’ve been getting from Breitbart and FoxNews.

    I hate just quoting myself, but if people are too lazy to read my big 2011 article, I suppose I must:

    This can be seen in the details of the most recent California election cycle. As the only statewide Republican officeholder and a wealthy Silicon Valley entrepreneur, Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner was assumed to have a lock on his party’s gubernatorial nomination and naturally attracted the support of all major segments of the GOP apparatus. But then former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, an utter political neophyte but with a billion-dollar fortune, decided to enter the race and immediately became the darling of the party’s mercenary establishment, given the bottomless funds she promised to spend on her campaign. Outmatched financially, Poizner was forced to refocus on right-wing primary voters, and as a highly opportunistic fellow, he decided to ride the national tidal wave of anti-immigration fears then sweeping across the country and make it the centerpiece of his campaign, eventually spending $25 million of his own money on the effort.

    The result was that he lost the primary by 40 points. When you run as an immigration hard-liner, spend $25 million on your race, and lose by 40 points among the hard-core conservatives who dominate Republican primaries, you’re clearly selling the dog food that dogs just won’t eat. These days, anti-immigration candidacies in California possess about as much resonance as anti-papist candidacies in Massachusetts.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

  134. bjondo says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Could be.

    Old.

    Beach front or lake front home says he can be bought.

    Maybe this time a members-only section in a Jew cemetery.

    Either way, Trump 68%.

    5ds

  135. Slimer says:
    @tanabear

    Also there is no real racial conflict in places like Baltimore, Detroit or Chicago. The violence is primarily between blacks. The only time racial conflict becomes an issue is the rare case where a white police office shoots a black suspect and media firestorm ensues.

    Agreed

    But there can be no real racial conflict between whites and other groups. Whites don’t have any collective political power to resist their communities being flooded by non-whites

    Whites do have the collective political power to resist, but by and large they don’t feel threatened by the presence of non-whites, as long as they’re not black. For the most part whites see Latinos, Asians and Middle Easterners as allies who help them keep the blacks at bay. So the divide here is really between black and non-black, not white and non-white. That’s the idea that Ron Unz has been trying to get across for some time now.

  136. @Californication

    Ron Unz is a smart guy and he has a great website but as you said he is myopic to say the least. Ron does not seem to understand what happens to the middle class with his open borders ideas. He doesn’t grasp the social-economic-environmental pathways which are being overwhelmed and in some cases destroyed by the input. The middle class is paying more for everything to take care of the illegal immigration. If you go to the hospital you are paying for all those illegals sitting in the emergency room because your insurance rates go up. I challenged a hospital administrator about a simple test I had done and the comparisons of fees over two years and what the insurance pays and why it had more than doubled. She bluntly told me…it’s only going to get worse. Do you think we treat the illegals for free? Someone has to pay for it and it’s mostly the white people!

    Housing prices for rent in my area because of Section 8’s are sky rocketing. A small apartment that would rent for $1100 is now $1600 because the government will pay that much for these people. They illegals pay $95.00 and the government pays the rent. The people who live there with multiple identities have new cars while the rest of drive older models.

    The small towns in my area have been overwhelmed with drug dealers many of them Hispanic or Latins. Crimes by these people are now an everyday occurrence including murder. Ron is not middle class. He has no idea what it is to make a living for the whites and even some blacks as these systems collapse under the strain of these massive illegal inputs which do more than drive down wages. He has a simplistic idea on financial pathways and systems. These things are not linear. Nothing is free; the damage is just externalized to the public. Ask the people who live here about school taxes which are exploding to take care of all the different immigrants and their needs. All the schools are overwhelmed.

    The environment is getting destroyed. America is starting to look like a third world nation. Parts of California now look like India and related pandemics are just around the corner. Yet, Ron see nothings. Just like Sargent Schultz………on Hogan’s Heroes …..I see nothing…..I see nothing. And neither does Ron.

    • Agree: tanabear
  137. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I agree . Israel is now the fascist type country – real and imagined – which international Jewry tries to prevent other countries from becoming.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  138. That 2011 essay was a really good piece of writing, and very compelling.

    Respectfully, in 2011.

    This is a jaundiced response in the ‘Current Year’.

    Yes, empirical reality, absolutely.

    “The notion that masses of non-white immigrants, legal or not, will turn our cities into violent battlefields or support ethnic separatist movements which shatter national unity are total absurdities, and the people who believe such claims are fools. And as we have seen above from the accumulated voting data of the last couple of decades, after a brief transition period, whites and non-white immigrant groups seem to coexist perfectly well, or at least as well as did the various white ethnic groups on the East Coast 50 or 60 years ago.”

    Oh right, if literally almost ALL the white people leave. So what happens when white people run out of places to go?

    Why are so many white people leaving areas of diversity for the charms of places like Boise Idaho? And why are house prices due to immigration nothing to do with race, again?

    Because the:

    Huffington Post, Atlantic, New York Times

    etc

    Are Breitbart and Fox News.

    So why do people keep saying that very intelligent people are getting their opinions they don’t like solely from Breitbart and Fox News?

    Remember, London is an international celebration of diversity with zero crime or racial tensions of population movement, and Brexit never happened.

    And in 2020, it’s 2011.

    What else was the political orthodoxy in 2011? I can’t even think back that far, I’m too young and contemporary. Those were prime Obama years right? That article referenced someone called ‘Bush’. Who is Bush?

    Why will no Liberal answer to the fact that 80% of the humans crossing the Mexican border are being viciously raped according to the Huffington Post?

    Why?

    It’s incredible.

    It’s like their paradigms are just incapable of the computation. How could all these nice future neuroscientists be responsible for the rape of 80% of the people crossing the border? Because it isn’t Americans doing the raping is it? It can’t be. So who is doing the raping?

    Seriously, is that an empirical fact (Yes, yes it is), and if so, what does it entail, and if such is entailed, why does one’s views based on empirical reality not change even a little?

    That wasn’t Breitbart. That wasn’t Fox News. That was the Huffington Post. Describing ’empirical reality’.

    Why do Liberals keep pretending there isn’t mass drug trafficking and child and assorted sex trafficking across the border? It’s quite ridiculous.

    If it’s not acceptable, then what is the correct policy response to said rape?

    https://www.conservativereview.com/news/the-immorality-of-the-open-borders-left/

    Sanctuary cities are Trafficking sanctuaries.

    So one of the pillars of the Grand Bargain is an amnesty right? Right, an amnesty to a racial bloc that votes +20% for Bernie Sanders style economic lunacy and socialism. Or in other words, socialism without nationalism. Because Sanders’ economic policy is open borders, ICE abolishment, amnesty and total welfare.

    Lunacy. Socialism without nationalism.

    How is a form of limited amnesty going to overcome the same nonsense Nazi framing that applies to refusing full amnesty and the total abolition of the border and citizenship concept? I’m not being facetious – how? How would it resist Jews and Hispanics organising fake cages and broadcasting them on fake news CNN? How is it going to overcome the inclusivity framing?

    Why should Whites accede to a policy that will mean the end of the constitution?

    Do Hispanics as a racial bloc have or not have group modulated preferences on various constitutional amendments? Here’s one indication, on the second amendment:

    “Fully 89% of registered voters who support Trump say gun ownership does more to protect than to put people’s safety at risk, compared with just 9% who believe it does more to risk people’s safety. Among Clinton supporters, about twice as many say gun ownership does more to endanger personal safety than say it protects people from becoming victims of crime (65% vs. 32%).”

    [MORE]

    Right, so it works if all the White people leave, and the White people give up all the White people things they like that made them live in a White people country. In empirical reality.

    Because again, how and why are the Democrats going to give up the big politics of mass immigration? Why would they do that? Democrats are experts at corruption and identity politics – you’ve written articles about it.

    And here’s another thing.

    What if white voters aren’t given a choice?

    “We don’t need white people leading the Democrat party right now”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/23/cnns_symone_sanders_we_dont_need_white_people_leading_the_democratic_party_right_now.html

    Or Jews like Ron Unz or even Dianne Feinstein either, evidently.

    https://blackvoicenews.com/2016/11/29/democrats-should-pick-a-leader-from-their-strongest-voting-bloc-black-women/

    Black women need to rule the DNC. And I agree completely. But I’m not a black women – and neither are those Californian Boomers who remain.

    Because what’s happening, very obviously, is that Whites are being removed, excised, from the Democrat coalition, whether they want it or not. That process just wasn’t apparent in 2011. It’s extremely apparent now, for anyone who cares to notice.

    How much longer do you think Whites are even doing to be given a choice?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    It’s been almost 10 whole years since Steve Poizner. Back in the days of Poizner, there weren’t 50,000 and growing homeless in California. There wasn’t Typhus and feces in the streets. There wasn’t people like Jennifer Rubin of all people observing that you can’t even have a bronze street lamp foundation any more in an outlying Suburb in California because Hispanics steal it. There weren’t white Millennials living in drawers and in open air pods for $500.00 a week like Hong Kong coolies, etc.

    I just don’t understand.

    If California is and always has been and always will be the bellwether state of the United States, how is it possible that Donald Trump won election and is going to easily win the next election? Probably with a sizeable Hispanic vote. Regardless of how he has been constrained, although those constraints are not gone, he ran on an anti-immigration platform.

    Even so, attacking the employment side of the equation remains the most effective approach. Virtually all immigrants come here for jobs, so eliminating government benefits would merely serve to further immiserate millions of families, who would remain in this country regardless. Having immigration agents conduct random sweeps through ethnic neighborhoods would engender enormous fear and anger and also deter immigrants from reporting crimes, while constituting a massive violation of traditional civil liberties. Even building a fence and doubling the border-patrol would probably have just a small impact across such an enormously long border

    That was a fair assumption, back in 2011, but it was completely wrong. Illegal crossings are down 75% since May, dropping 8 straight months in a row.

    Based on deals with the feeder countries, and those exact policies you described above.

    So you talk about how families will remain in this country regardless, in your article.

    So hold on, within the Grand Bargain, how does offering them $5,000 to $10,000 make them leave? And if they don’t leave, what is the measure by which they will be made to leave, within the Grand Bargain? Does it come with an ICE tea?

    Trump’s such an evil man right, and nationalists don’t live in empirical reality right?

    But as far as I can see, Trump’s basically enacting the Grand Bargain insofar as it makes sense around free trade and American citizenship. And, as far as I can tell, Trump doctrine on immigration is consistent with the Grand Bargain, he just includes provision for what happens when the cohort that has to go back decide they don’t want to.

    So what happens, again, when within the Unz Grand Bargain, someone doesn’t take their $5,000.00 and elects to remain an illegal alien non-citizen in the Unz United States of America? Who is going to enforce the terms of the Grand Bargain, and how?

    How does the Sailor Hypothesis cohere with population movement?

    Somehow, California has gone from 85% white to what is it now, 40%? In about 2 generations? So if we use population movement instead of voting patterns what happens? I don’t know, I’m just making a suggestion on the basis that people vote with their feet as well as their ignored ballots.

    “But after a few years had gone by, most whites concluded that their new neighbors seemed like pretty reasonable people, not too different from themselves, and racial concerns dropped to the lower levels of most public opinion surveys, usually ranking below jobs, housing, healthcare, and sometimes even traffic.”

    So why have so many Whites left?

    And why is it somehow miraculously acceptable to pretend jobs, housing, healthcare and traffic are somehow non-racial concerns when you just said that they are politically charged due to immigrations impact on them as domains?

    I just don’t get it.

    To me, this effort to somehow separate immigration and race from human social phenomena is utterly absurd and one of the most non-empirical things one could possibly do.

    The great partition began back in 2014 – and yes, it’s whites in places like Oregon and New Hampshire, with the least actual exposure to the realities of diversity that buck the trend.

    “Across 21 states where Senate races were exit polled, whites broke for the Republican by a significant margin in all but four – Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire and Oregon. None of those four states has backed a GOP candidate for president in the post-Reagan era except when New Hampshire went for George W. Bush by 1 point in 2000.”

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fbi-investigating-sheriff-20190711-story.html

    Why are Hispanics forming race gangs in police institutions is that isn’t happening?

    Why are Hispanics so heavily featured in gangs if that isn’t happening.

    Anyway, we shall see.

    How many RINO and Bush Republicans are going to remain in the Republican party in the next 24 months? I’ll give you a hint – Mitt Romney might be looking to become independent.

    It was a really great essay, in 2011.

  139. FvS says:
    @Ron Unz

    So? All that proves is most of the Republicans that have stayed in California are the more Conservative Inc., Mitt Romney types who still believe in the myth of the natural Republican Hispanic.
    https://www.amren.com/features/2019/04/the-myth-of-the-natural-republican-hispanic/

    And it’s not like Whitman was exactly soft on immigration. Actually, she was probably too extreme for non-white Republicans and the Jebs, but was obviously favored over Poizner.

    Whitman denied Poizner’s claim that she supports amnesty for illegal immigrants and vowed tough action if elected. She said immigration reform is in order over the long term, but first the border must be secured and other measures taken to reduce the number of illegal arrivals.

    “We have got to get control of the illegal immigration problem,” she said. “I will build an economic fence to keep employers from hiring illegal aliens, and I will make sure that we eliminate sanctuary cities” — a move Poizner also espoused.
    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-path-citizenship-needed-gop-candida-2009oct29-story.html

  140. Kim says:

    Government health care systems have very little do with “health” and a great deal to do with underwriting the business models of Big Agriculture, Big Chemicals, Big Pharma, and Big Medicine.

    Big Ag and Big Chem produce cheap grains and put them in boxes and bottles and sell them at a 50-fold markup. The sheep-people eat this “food” and develop diabetes, heart disease, arthritis and cancer along with a myriad of associated diseases and inflammatory conditions from indigestion to back pain to brain fog.

    Big Pharma and Big Med take over to treat and manage these conditions (never, ever curing them) so that from an early age the wealth of the Western human is being constantly drained off by these pitiless con men.

    The cost of this is difficult for individuals and families to meet so the government (tax payers) must be brought in to pick up the tab.

    Nothing about “health” involved in this process at all.

  141. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Digital Samizdat

    MOA’s article posted over at ICH pretty much says it all. Gotta love the headline:

    Putin Prepares To Release Iowa Caucus Results

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52946.htm

    I mean who else would hire a company by the name of “Shadow” to keep track of voting results?

  142. swamped says:
    @Ron Unz

    “These days, anti-immigration candidacies in California possess about as much resonance as anti-papist candidacies in Massachusetts”…actually, anti-papist candidates routinely win elections in Massachusetts. It’s almost impossible to get elected in the state running on an anti-abortion, anti-sodomy platform. This is where the single-sex marriage movement started after all. And former popular Boston devout-Catholic mayor and U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican, Ray Flynn put paid to his political career by campaigning vocally against it. Everywhere vacant Catholic churches & rectories are being converted into office bldg’s. & apartments. There are probably more ‘papists’ in CA now – overall & per capita – than in the Bay State; although just like CA, MA encourages & shields illegal aliens. The state Democratic Party machine can’t wait for the 2020 census. They even nominated a Spanish candidate for governor in the last election. He lost to the Republican incumbent but’s it’s only a matter of time. Maybe that’s why white Californians are seemingly so blase at the moment. The governor & mayors of most major cities have been reliably white so they feel safe & somewhat in charge. Wait til’ the first Chicano governor is elected & see how fast they bolt.

  143. Thim says:

    Jews always oppose white interests. They will just lie about it, as in this case, a very smart Jew telling an outrageous lie, and enjoying it. It is in their genes. He cannot help it.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  144. Pandour says: • Website

    The man is anti-establishment which is a big deal in U.S. politics.On the basis of that, he would have my vote if I lived there.He certainly cant be any worse than the two headed corporate prostitute Dems-Republicans.The U.S. politically reminds me of brontosaurus-big body and a brain the size of walnut.

  145. Truth3 says:
    @Thim

    Jews always oppose white interests. They will just lie about it, as in this case, a very smart Jew telling an outrageous lie, and enjoying it. It is in their genes. He cannot help it.

    It may be in the genes, but yes, the Jew can “help it”.

    Godd Humans that were born Jewish certainly can have a conscience and go against Chosenism.

  146. @Reg Cæsar

    The true socialist’s goal is total, unanswered power. They are shrewd enough to see that immigration is the surest route to that summit.

    The true socialist’s goal is fraternity. They are shrewd enough to see that if the USA had not been a capitalist vulture state preying on its less powerful neighbours the people of those countries would be living in the comfort of their original homes, not wanting to emigrate to the USA.

    The true capitalist’s goal is immigration from already successfully ruined countries to push down wages while increasing market size
    . The true socialist’s goal is zero migration.

    You are badly brainwashed.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  147. Trinity says:
    @tanabear

    Part of your post is spot on and hits the target when it comes to Whites being nothing more than bunny rabbits, HOWEVER, while I no longer live in Baltimore ( the suburb of Essex, really) and have never even been to Chicago or Detroit, I would bet my life that if I did some research I could find plenty of cases of Black on White rapes, assaults and murders in each of those cities city limits and the outlying suburbs. Sure, there are more Black on Black attacks but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t Black on White violence as well. I can remember a particular case in Baltimore about 10 years or so ago when a White couple were brutally attacked on a city bus, and another case where I believe a White transsexual was beaten by two Black girls in a McDonald’s restaurant. And a couple or three years ago I believe a white guy was attacked by a mob of Blacks on St. Patrick’s Day in the city of Baltimore or maybe it was D.C. , pretty sure it was Baltimore though. And that is just three cases off the top of my head. I don’t think much about Bmore since I left that city decades ago, except follow the Orioles and Ravens, so I can imagine there have been hundreds if not thousands of Black on White rapes, assaults, and murders if not in Baltimore city, certainly in Baltimore county and the rest of the metro area. Take a walk in West Baltimore as a white guy at midnight and tell me you don’t feel racial tension. hahaha

  148. Trinity says:
    @Achilles Wannabe

    EXACTLY. Israel is one of if not the most fascist and racist country in the world and they INTENTIONALLY promote race mixing, and multicultural societies for traditionally White nations because they INTENTIONALLY are out to genocide White Europeans and White Americans and Western civilization. (((They))) DECEIVE the masses into believing that all races should come together and love one another while they spew anti-White hatred 24/7 from their totally controlled pulpits in “our” media and in their Hollywood movies. (((They))) know damn well that race mixing has ALWAYS DESTROYED SOCIETIES AND HAS NEVER WORKED THROUGHOUT HISTORY, THAT IS WHY THEY REJECT FOR THEMSELVES AND PROMOTE IT FOR OTHERS.

    Anyone with any kind of brain can see it is Jews who have led the way and continue to lead the way at flooding White countries with third world biological weapons of mass destruction who are then taught to hate Whites for imagined or real past injustices through Jew produced anti-White movies, Jew published anti-White books, or Jew produced anti-White movies out of Hollywood. People talk about a “race war?” America has been involved in a one-sided race war for 60 years and Whites are getting the crap beat out of them, being raped, murdered, and assaulted by nonwhites on a daily basis, and now Europe is going through the same thing.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  149. Art says:

    Did anyone notice how stupid the Dem women looked at the State of the Union speech, all dressed in white feminist attire.

    Their phony words about wanting to come together as a nation – is obviously a lie. No question, they were out for their liberal elite selves – not the nation.

    They were on display, dressed to show an aberrant feminist victimhood, hate for men, and baby killing.

    Clearly their diversity stick, drips with an anti-Western pathos.

  150. @Nonny Mouse

    immigration from already successfully ruined countries

    We ruined Mexico, and Costa Rica, and Cuba. Right. Those people have no agency. And Africa? The only economy we had a hand in ruining there was South Africa’s. Which socialists applauded.

    They are shrewd enough to see that if the USA had not been a capitalist vulture state preying on its less powerful neighbours

    Socialists applauded as well when our “vulture state” got involved, against our people’s interest, in the Second World War. We finished it off with some of the worst war crimes in history.

    The true socialist’s goal is zero migration.

    Then Cuba has certainly attained that goal. There are a couple thousand Mexicans in that country, including some of Korean descent, but I bet they hold on tightly to their passports. Cuba doesn’t have an immigration problem. Or an emigration one.

    The true socialist’s goal is fraternity… You are badly brainwashed.

    “Fraternity” at the point of a gun. And you intend to unbrainwash me at one of your reeducation camps, Great Leap Forward-style. Until I confess that a Yugo is indeed better than a Ford.

    Of course, you’ll counter that Maoism isn’t “true” socialism. A British writer, Brian Crozier I think, exposed the socialist’s trick of comparing the theory of socialism with the messy reality of the West. He suggested doing the reverse. Say, an Ayn Rand novel vs a visit to Eritrea.

    Need I remind you that socialism is perfectly legal in the United States, as long as it’s voluntary? Yet how many people move to a commune?

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  151. @Reg Cæsar

    Socialists applauded when the USA got involved in WW2? Can you name the American socialists who applauded? Say five of them? Did capitalists applaud? And Hitler was murderously anti-socialist and murderously pro-capitalist, so how is that relevant?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  152. johnwho says:

    All we really know ’bout ‘National Socialism’ is that Hitler used it to save Germany from poverty within six years of coming to power. That is one of the main reasons Hitler was forced into war and the country of Germany was destoyed. Also the main reason Iraq and Libya were destroyed. These were all anti-communist countries which simply wanted a bigger piece of the pie for the people who actually lived there. Sure there are complications in particulary Iraq, but if you asked them would like to invaded again or would they rather have gone back to their old leaders? They would say no to American/Jewish ‘democracy’. Same with Assad, he was elected in fair elections, treated his people well and is still supported by the vast majority of them. America has not had fair democratic elections for years and if you asked many Americans who they would rather vote for many would reply, “Tweedledum or Tweedledee?”

    That being said could I ask you Americans for a favor? Could you put some pressure on your representatives to put pressure on Canada to close its border with China just like America did?

    • Replies: @johnwho
    , @Vaterland
  153. @Trinity

    Did you talk to any of those Mexicans? Ask about there plans? They are most likely putting in a set number if years in the US and moving back to Mexico. While whites are thinking long term.

    You speak of 12 hour days 7 days a week and you reference this job in the past tense because no one can work those hours long term.

    The only way they get away with it is a constant stream of new immigrants to plug in the gaps. Without them they would have to offer their employees higher wages and better working conditions.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  154. Trinity says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    That particular job was in north Georgia, and YES, there are plenty of jobs HERE that work those sorts of hours either seasonably or much of the year. WHY do you think Atlanta and its suburbs have been booming since the 1970’s? CHEAP LABOR AND A RIGHT TO WORK STATE, and the employees here are more job scared than up north. There are plenty of Whites who work similar hours routinely here. Only a few of those Mexicans went back to Mexico after 5-6 months, btw, and get this, one that I know of even had a part time job at Auto Zone. I’m telling you FROM EXPERIENCE, the Mexicans that I have worked around WORK MUCH HARDER THAN THE AVERAGE WHITE PERSON, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF WHITES WHO ARE ALMOST AS SORRY AS BLACKS. Hey, the truth is the truth, I am a self proclaimed “truth speaker,” at least I consider myself one. Oh, and btw, I worked two jobs in Florida where at least 5-6 months of the year we worked 6-7 days a week for 12 hours a day, one was a well known bakery company that produces cookies, crackers, etc., and the other was company that produced automobile batteries. Perhaps you do office work or some other sort work, but if you have ever worked production, I can guarantee you that you aren’t going to work 40 hour work weeks, at least not year round.

    I see Mexicans all the time busting their asses doing construction, roofing, and other sorts of manual labor. For the life of me, I think anyone who says Mexicans are lazy, I can assure you that person has NEVER been around Mexicans or worked among them. Now they might be a different breed in Commiefornia or even in Texas where they have been there for generations but the ones that I dealt with in Florida and Georgia could and would work almost around the clock and I mean actually work, not ride the clock, for hours upon hours, even double shifts for 7 days a week if you would let them.

    • Agree: johnwho
    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  155. Trinity says:

    To continue from my last comment I will say this, if you want to stereotype Mexicans with anything or any sort of inherent behavior it would be a tendency to like to drink alcohol, take drugs, they are downright horny and sex hungry 24/7, and a tendency to commit petty crime, and perhaps violent tempers when angered but usually they are pretty peaceful if left alone. Now I would admit that those stereotypes are very true, but the stereotype about Mexicans being “lazy” is downright comical. IF anything younger Whites ( and some older ones as well,) Jews, and Blacks are the ones who are lazy. I have worked with some sorry and lazy Whites in my time, personally in my line of work, you won’t encounter a Jew because I am or was a blue collar worker, and the Blacks that I would call hard workers I could count on two hands and we are talking decades of observing these people “work.” As for other lazy type of people, I would include East Indians, and Arabs. Orientals are another group of very hard workers and very conscientious workers on the other hand. I can imagine Pakistanis and the like would be as lazy as Arabs or East Indians.

  156. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    The problem with saying things that are totally contrary to reality is that you gradually lose your credibility…

    It is very true.

    I was able to smell the low-IQ on Striker from the very beginning, and that is why I complain (with my anonymous accounts) that he is published on this site.

    The alt-right was far better when it was just people like Greg Johnson and KMac. KMac actually is not half as anti-semitic, on the whole, as the people who he has created, which is a huge irony. He is quite willing to admit, repeatedly in his writings, that Jewish activism is partially motivated by an attempt to stamp out things that cause Holocausts. Which is of course what it basically is, and that includes the neoconservative movement. From wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle):

    Perle and Frum conclude: “For us, terrorism remains the great evil of our time, and the war against this evil, our generation’s great cause … There is no middle way for Americans: it is victory or holocaust.” These ideas are foundational elements of neoconservatism.

  157. JackOH says:
    @anarchyst

    anarchyst, I’ll be looking for tip-off events prior to the rectification of American health care through, most likely, a Medicare for All scheme.

    One tip-off may be big city mayors and big corporation CEOs beating the drums through friendly journalists and friendly politicians over health care legacy costs.

    Another may be government actuaries, likewise working through journalists and politicians, grumbling loudly about Obamacare’s inability to voluntarily lure young and healthies to balance the old and less healthies, who end up with prohibitively priced premiums that effectively bar them from Obamacare. Obamacare’s a relatively minor program, too, with its mischief and impotence baked into the cake.

    Group health insurance’s mischief is sui generis, and on an epic scale. The academic literature amounts to cover-up of that mischief; journalism won’t touch it. Starved for opinion leadership, group health enrollees are routinely swung back and forth by our political caste.

    anarchyst, buddy, you do good commenting here, but I don’t know what else to tell you.

  158. @Ron Unz

    What’s your opinion of the situation in Iowa?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  159. @RadicalCenter

    I know Ellen’s work very well. We had multiple email exchanges probably about ten years ago. She told me to look up the “legal tender cases a/k/a the greenback cases and read them and I did. I have commented on her articles many times. When Lincoln issued his greenbacks, it was not a certainty that it was legal. Although the Constitution allows the federal government to coin money, it was silent on its paper equivalent, called a “bill of credit.” The Constitution forbids states to coin money or issue bills of credit. The Supreme Court held that since the Constitution did not forbid the federal government to issue bills of credit it could.

    Although Lincoln’s greenbacks were called notes, the Supreme Court concluded that legally they were bills of credit. That has been one of the main sources of confusion. Private money is a promissory notes but government money is a bill of credit. There really is a major legal difference between the two. One is a debt and the other is a credit. In a bank note, the bank actually owes you. In a government bill of credit, you only have credit with the government, but the government has no debt to you.

    The government could wipe out all of it’s tomorrow by paying the debt with bills of credit or by minting trillion dollar coins and paying the debt with them. When money is debt, wiping out debt wipes out the money supply. But when money is bills of credit, they just stay in circulation.

  160. johnwho says:
    @johnwho

    So people are wondering (in their own graves and in their own dreams. Where did they get the opium?) whether the coronavirus just targets Chinese?
    Not a chance. This virus is apolitical and will take anyone. Conspiracy theorist are absolutely right about 911 (Isreal was at the very least heavily involved), the USS liberty, the Isreali attacks on Christian places in Egypt wich they wanted to lay off on Ireally, the nonincorper ireslith+ saw some Canadian viruses about and they, along with the Heroic Chinese Medical staff, often stood their ground against the Wuhan virus. Might as well say that the Heroic Chinese Medical Staff ristked their lives on a daily basis. Quiet, underspoken Chinese who should be recogtnized as the real heroes if we ever beat the Wuhan virus.

  161. @No Left Turn

    Good observations about SoCal, NLT.

    I’d add that more and more traditionally nonHispanic ethnic neighborhoods are becoming Hispanic, usually Mexican but sometimes Guatemalan and Salvadoran (huge immigrant groups in SoCal, more than I realized).

    So-called Filipinotown, just west of downtown LA, still has a fair number of Filipino restaurants and stores, and some Filipino residents, but looks way more (mestizo and indio) Hispanic than anything else.

    “Koreatown”, a few miles farther West of downtown LA, is more heavily Korean but also has a large plurality of nonwhite/mixed Hispanics.

    South LA, even Compton and Watts, you are right to describe as formerly African. Tons of Africans there still, but they’re being outnumbered (and in the gang world, often outgunned) by Hispanics of those three big groups as well.

    For variety of foods and festivals this is fun, and I enjoy practicing my Spanish and Spanglish with the friendlier folks anywhere we go. But the social cohesion, the physical appearance of the streets and housing, and the sense of public cleanliness and peace and order, are all suffering.

  162. @Nonny Mouse

    Dalton Trumbo and Pete Seeger pulled their anti-war works off the market. Seeger enlisted and served in the Pacific, and replaced those works with the likes of this:

    So, Mr. President, / We got this one big job to do / That’s lick Mr. Hitler and when we’re through, / Let no one else ever take his place / To trample down the human race. / So what I want is you to give me a gun / So we can hurry up and get the job done.

    Norman Thomas was on the America First Committee, I’ll give you that. And the core of American socialism was the Germans of Milwaukee. So, like many German-Americans of all political stripes, they were opposed to waging war on their cousins abroad. (Milwaukee’s Socialists voted against women’s suffrage in 1912, because they were German and liked their beer.)

    Did capitalists applaud?

    The ones who made money did. The ones who paid taxes didn’t.

    And Hitler was murderously anti-socialist and murderously pro-capitalist, so how is that relevant?

    The faggot Hitler was murderously anti-Jewish, because in his view, they were the ultimate capitalists. Hitler himself doesn’t fit the definition of a capitalist. Gert Boyle definitely does. She left because “they tried to kill my family”.

  163. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    For those still in unions, the process of “social dumping” of immigrants to Sweden has given employers all the power in negotiations

    the effect of all this mass immigration boils down to:

    1) downward pressure on wages
    2) upward pressure on the cost of housing

    the price for a 1 BDRM apt in Sacramento, California now starts at $900/month

  164. Anon[434] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    He might be wrong about Bernie’s popularity with Hispanics, but that just might be on the basis that Bernie actually has the ‘clout’ he ascribed to Bloomberg and Biden in the younger generations as Unz demonstrated.

    If in fact black and hispanic spokespeople are no longer salient influencers, that actually bodes very well for the Republican party. It’s not unreasonable for Striker to look at the past influence of race-hustling swine like the Revered Pimp Al-Sharpton and all the other Commie Terrorist community organisers and assume they’re still impactful.

    That was the only thing that Unz contended against – and other commenters have pointed out the consequences of California samples of Hispanic racial/cultural preferences for amnesty and immigration policy.

    If the dominant Hispanic demographic is +20%-30% for Bernie Sanders style open-borders big government socialism it has implications.

    It means the Constitution can’t and won’t survive Hispanic electoral dominance. That portends the break up of the United States of America. Hispanics don’t want free speech, guns, borders or Federalism, or law and order etc.

    It means amnesty that is anything less then universal and total won’t be politically viable.

    Those young communists and racial supremacists will never allow a partial amnesty that they regard as Nazi and white nationalist.

    An amnesty will cement an unassailable demographic bloc that are totally opposed to the Constitution which they regard as an illegitimate and alien document. Which portends the break of the United States of America.

    It means Whites can never allow amnesty.

    I know old Liberal Jews don’t believe it could happen. They wouldn’t allow it to happen. But it’s already happening. Because old Liberal Jews are very stupid individuals.

    They’re wrong. They’ve been wrong about most things, most of the time. Whatever fake pieties and disingenuous self-serving meta-frames they apply to their social engineering and depravity, in the end, they’re being proven wrong as to the consequences.

    Dianne Feinstein was wrong – she’s history. All of the Jews in the Democrat party are going to be removed. This will be the last and at best penultimate generation of Jewish dominance in the DNC. The same as it was for the Italians. The same as it was for the Irish. How are the Kennedy’s going?

    And if they want to play in the new Republican party, well they should start being nicer to white people, I think, and Israel.

    They will only be able to exert influence via money and back-channels which will themselves no longer be electorally viable in due course.

    I mean it’s hilarious. People like butt-plug and Klobuchar think very senior people in the government and intelligence services don’t know about where their money is coming from. Or what they’re doing in sports.

    Oh of course.

    So in stamping out things that cause Holocausts, it’s just everything listed by Theodore Adorno’s Authoritarian Personality like ‘families’ and ‘home-ownership’ and ‘religious observance’, the Constitution, Christianity, Roman/Greco classical philosophical and legal legacy, and the end of the European people’s right? So simple.

    What about stamping out Holodomors? It’s pretty hilarious then even Boomers are calling what has happened in the past few years a ‘Jew Coup’. Even Boomers don’t give a fuck any more.

    Maybe, just maybe, Striker isn’t as low IQ as you think.

    Maybe, morons and cretins (not Unz I emphasise) like the Californian commentators who apparently haven’t noticed that California can’t provide the most basic amenities to many of it’s people at any given time are just wrong in a generalized global sense? If there was a liquidity test for government and commentators, I think being able to provide water and electricity to your people on demand is a pretty good liquidity test – and these people fail that test. And being able to ‘not’ provide them with Typhus, Rickets, and Rat bourne Viruses.

    Wrong about the world. Wrong about themselves. Wrong about others. Wrong about practically everything. Or just liars.

    The problem with saying things that are totally contrary to reality is that you gradually lose your credibility…

    Yes exactly.

    Diversity is our strength.

    California is a desirable future of Post-America. One that is economically sustainable based on relative tax receipts and net transfer recipience distributed by race.

    There is a possibility of a Grand Bargain given Democrat and RINO incentives to corruption based on big politics.

    Socialism without Nationalism is a viable form of governance.

    Donald Trump free of impeachment isn’t going to be coming after all the people all over the world in their rat-holes who tried to destroy the United States of America and it’s people, the posterity Americans, and to a degree the Israelis who have supported his administration.

    Seth Rich wasn’t murdered. Oh look, One American News just ran a story about how evidence was redacted regarding an actionable case.

    China won’t be coming after the City of London for their Virus. Nor will the United States.

    Everybody is a fucking retarded shit-eating Monkey except for Liberal-Democrats and members of the Deep State Intelligence apparatus.

    • Replies: @Anon
  165. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Outmatched financially, Poizner was forced to refocus on right-wing primary voters, and as a highly opportunistic fellow, he decided to ride the national tidal wave of anti-immigration fears

    framed like a shytebag in the left-wing media

    we’re not afraid of immigrants, we dont want them. We dont want their crime and violence, we dont want to be underbid at the jobsite and we dont want our rent going thru the roof

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  166. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Your writing is pure insanity. Why do you even try? Are you not afraid that you will undermine your own goals with insane writing?

    • Replies: @The Cake Tailor
  167. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What’s your opinion of the situation in Iowa?

    Well, I haven’t been paying a great deal of attention. But I’m a little friendly with someone loosely associated with the Sanders camp, and he very much agreed with me that America was really just a Banana Republic these days.

    The Democratic Establishment apparently cancelled the last Iowa poll because it showed Sanders far ahead, and then suppressed the actual Iowa vote for similar reasons. Maybe they’ll also cancel New Hampshire and the national vote in November…

    Max Blumenthal had a pretty devastating column describing the whole ridiculous situation:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/04/pro-israel-buttigieg-seth-klarman-iowas-voting-app/

  168. Kyle says:
    @obwandiyag

    Nobody in America has ever been payed 16 dollars an hour to pick tomatoes. The tomatoes you eat in the super market most of the year are hydroponic green house tomatoes from Canada or Iceland, or other ironically infertile Nordic nations.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @obwandiyag
  169. @Trinity

    The first thing you need to understand is that you are dealing with a selection bias. White people with any brains, talent or ambition are not going to subject themselves to a line of work that requires them to work 12 hour days with lots of overtime just to make a living wage. The whites who work in these fields are poor, drug addicted, have mental health issues and other problems that effect their job performance.

    Forty years ago whites worked in these fields because they paid a higher inflation adjusted wage than they do today.

    The only reason these employeers can get away with paying subsistence wages is because they have a never ending supply of immigrants who are willing to work under these conditions because it’s still much bettter than any deal they can get in their own country.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  170. Thomm says:
    @Ron Unz

    are totally clueless about the actual situation in California because they tend to get all their information from ridiculous sources like Breitbart and VDare (plus some of the writers on this website!).

    I have been saying the same thing all along, except that I use more up-to-date terminology.

  171. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    The economy is stagnating, high culture is nonexistent, and the popular culture is only maintained via films directed by pre-Millennial men.

    The signs are there, and the answers have been obvious for 40 years; but nobody has the courage to stand up for what’s right. Nobody has the courage to defend those who are vulnerable, and many seek to profit from this mess, seeing themselves as neo-feudal jungle lords of some calibre, as ersatz Kurtz-like figures and so on.

    But the jungle devours all, and no man is immune to its wrath. Look at the youth today and you will see “people” who are not just physically degenerate, but spiritually and intellectually degenerate. It doesn’t matter how high your “IQ” is if you can’t create.

    So what say you all? I work in tech, like many of you, and am witness to the constant decline of our civilization in all areas. Are we supposed to scramble like rats and Weimar bankers? Is this what I’m meant to believe?

    Even if we somehow manage to implement sensible policies, it seems that the demographic situation has gotten out of hand, so what is there to say? We can’t go back to being the “good guys.”

    • Agree: Miro23
  172. @Anon

    You know there is a British politician of Eton pedigree formerly with a fund called Somerset Associates of Rothschild formation.

    He had a particularly flavoursome phrase he applied to the criminal known as ‘Hillary Clinton’.

    He called her the ‘Cake Tailor’.

    I only need to read a very few spare excerpts of you, Sir, and I already know that you’re too turgid to even rise to the occasion of a Cake-Tailor. I bet you’ve baked a few Cock-cakes in your time though.

    Your oblivious, vacant, indubitable slack-jawed incomprehension shows only the danger of claiming IQ companionship with people like Unz.

    You have no claim, very evidently, to such aspirations.

    I’ve given Unz food for thought. He knows it. I know it. You don’t know it. Because you’re not capable of such cuisine.

    So be a good cake-tailor and please shut up will you and go and get ready for your Corona Virus. Corona Chan loves Boomers, and she’s going to absolutely thrive in California especially.

    I could say a lot more, but there’s no point in your case. .

  173. @Ron Unz

    For some time it’s been obvious that a democratic socialist like Bernie Sanders will not be allowed to win the US Presidency and that he will be defeated by the same forces that defeated Corbyn in the UK ,one of those forces is the “corporate media ” and as FAIR has just reported they were at it in reporting the results of the Iowa caucuses, see “How Corporate Media Make Pete Look Like He’s Winning “ fair.org . Former Mayor Peter Buttigieg has been described ,just like Obama was, as a “Manchurian” candidate.
    The corporate DNC wanted to deny Sanders the boost to his campaign of a victory in Iowa and so far with the help of the “app” and the media they have succeeded .

  174. @9/11 Inside job

    Thomas Muller : ” Mayor Pete the Spook: A favorite of the Kakistocracy and the parasite guild ” winterwatch.net

  175. Trinity says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    hahaha. Did I say that I was paid “subsistence” wages? And I can assure you that I have no “drug problems” or “mental health issues.”

    HOW DARE you look down on the BACKBONE OF THIS NATION, THE WHITE WORKING CLASS. YOU IGNORANT, ELITIST, EFFEMINATE, SNOB. Oh, and btw, do companies like General Motors pay “subsistence wages.” I can assure you that I made decent money at Johnson Controls, and Pepperidge Farms and I don’t believe I worked alongside people with mental health issues, but we have tons of people who work up in Washington, D.C. who apparently have mental health issues like pedophilia, drug and alcohol issues, etc.

    And IF not for people out there actually producing cars, car batteries, automobile rims, etc., how would your sorry ass be able to drive to your cushy do nothing office job that produces nothing at all tangible. Unless you are a doctor or some sort of scientist, then you are not much more useful than tits on a boar. The MOST VALUABLE occupations in America are without a doubt, FARMERS, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS ( ELECTRICIANS, PLUMBERS, ETC.), MEDICAL DOCTORS, PRODUCTION WORKERS AND TRUCK DRIVERS.

    Now admittedly I didn’t work for top notch companies in Georgia, this is where I worked with so many Mexicans and I didn’t need to after working long hours all those years, and accumulating stock from a large well known supermarket chain while working in the deli manufacturing plant, I was able to work when I wanted at the age of 55. lolol. So I guess I did alright for an uneducated and unmotivated slacker with no ambition. How I was able to work when I want at such a relatively young age with no gubmint assistance helping me along, after working jobs that are beneath you is a miracle, huh? ROTFLMAO. Oh, and another thing before I leave, I worked with two guys that wasted tens of thousands of dollars on 4 year degrees. One attended Texas A&M, and the other graduated from the University Of Maryland, and both wound up making car batteries on a production line for a living.

    I guarantee you there are tons of more intelligent people working in factories and warehouses out there than there are sitting behind a desk and there are definitely tons of more mentally stable and drug free production workers than some slacker sitting behind a desk with an oversize ass and back problems from too much sitting. IF you think you can have a drug problem, emotional or mental problems or be an alcoholic and go to work in temperatures at around 100 degrees and actually WORK for 12 hours a day, you must NEVER have done any sort of physical work in you life. You wouldn’t last a week with that sort of lifestyle working in those type of conditions.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  176. Corrupt says:
    @Ron Unz

    “People have been leaving the state mostly because housing is so extremely expensive”

    While some small portion of those leaving are leaving because of expensive housing (especially younger people), most of the people I’ve seen leave already owned their homes and are leaving due to high taxes and progressive laws being passed.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Ron Unz
  177. @Kyle

    You’re probably right that farmers haven’t offered $16 per hour to induce Americans to take the hard picking jobs and the like.

    Just to quibble, though: the tomatoes we buy here in LA area supermarkets are most often from Mexico or South America. Outside of expensive places like Whole Foods or worse, where 80% of the people can’t afford to shop regularly, no produce is from high-Labor-cost and/or cold places like Scandinavia.

    When I lived in Michigan, though, regular grocery stores would have a number of good produce items grown in Canada.

    In any event, won’t the simpler physical-Labor jobs increasingly be filled by robots and machines? We are importing tens of millions of people, most of whom are qualified only for such jobs, exactly when many of the suitable jobs are being automated away. (Too bad Mr. Universal Basic Income and invite-the-whole-world ANDREW YANG can’t see or admit that.)

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  178. @Corrupt

    YES. Thank you.

    Our good friend was born and raised in SoCal and proud of it. He inherited a nice small house in suburban south LA County from his parents, no mortgage, and both he and his wife had steady fairly good-paying jobs with benefits and a pension.

    He has a wide network of family, friends, and a close church community here — though they are dying or trickling away out of state — and so he put up with the increasingly alien, unfriendly, FILTHY, low-trust and yes, anti-white culture here as long as he could.

    Yet in their early 50s and early 40s, respectively, they just moved to Missouri, whence that part of his family had come 3 and 4 generations ago.

    Housing costs had absolutely nothing to do with his move. We know them well and have discussed their frustrations over some years; we know exactly what their motivations were for moving.

    The culture of racial and political hostility, frighteningly intolerant and malicious PC work environment (government and healthcare were their fields), and ubiquitous trash, feces, rats, graffiti, barred windows and doors, and constant car break-ins were the reason.

    Another reason was the sickening “sex ed” material being inculcated into their kids in the CA government (“public”) schools, from a young age. Active promotion of what we consider to be psychological disorder and unhealthy dead-end lifestyles/practices (homosexuality) and mental illness (“transgenderism”), the view of sex as a meaningless hedonistic pursuit without commitment or love or the creation of a family, etc.

    This matters a LOT to good parents.

    They also see plainly that police here appear largely indifferent to their safety, while they could be prosecuted for defending themselves and their children with guns if attacked or menaced.

    So the once-great California — God this place could be wonderful — just lost another little bunch of peaceful, hardworking, honest, patriotic, charitable, well-adjusted, family-oriented people — one white and one Asian, for what that’s worth.

    With a PAID-FOR HOUSE, they nonetheless finally gave up and joined the exodus rather than be taxed, mocked, threatened, and robbed some more. Who can blame them.

    • Thanks: Miro23
  179. Trinity says:

    For all you Whites leaving Commiefornia for places like Montana, Iowa, Arkansas, ( yes, some Whites are moving to places like Iowa and Arkansas), North Carolina, Nebraska or any other majority White and traditionally conservative state, one thing you MUST NOT DO, PLEASE DO NOT START TELLING NATIVES OR LONG TERM RESIDENTS HOW YOU DID THINGS BACK IN CALIFORNIA.

    More than likely, your White brothers and sisters will welcome you HOME, but the minute you start trying to change Wyoming into Commiefornia, your neighbors will give you the cold shoulder and rightfully so. I watched Florida turn from a wonderful place to live, the place anyone would want to retire in or raise their kids into something that is nowhere near the same place it was even 30 years ago. People coming down from Jew York, Chicago, or even relatively non-cosmopolitan places like Indiana, Ohio, Maryland, Wisconsin, Michigan, who then tried to make Florida exactly like the places they fled. The popular bumper stickers back in the day were, “WE DON’T CARE HOW YOU DID THINGS UP NORTH,” and “WELCOME TO FLORIDA, NOW TAKE I-75 OR I-95 NORTH.” When in Roman, act as the Romans, ex-Californians fleeing that literal shithole need to heed this advice or they will make enemies instead of friends and they will help ruin another state.

  180. @Trinity

    What kind of shit is this?

    “HOW DARE you look down on the BACKBONE OF THIS NATION, THE WHITE WORKING CLASS. YOU IGNORANT, ELITIST, EFFEMINATE, SNOB.”

    You have made multiple comments shitting on white working class people, faggot, while extolling the virtues of Mexicans and I point out to you that you are dealing with a subset of white working class people, those with low cognitive ability, like yourself who have been thrown into competition with the entire third world and suddenly you are their greatest defender. GTFO boomer.

    • Agree: MikeatMikedotMike
    • Replies: @Trinity
  181. Ron Unz says:
    @Corrupt

    While some small portion of those leaving are leaving because of expensive housing (especially younger people), most of the people I’ve seen leave already owned their homes and are leaving due to high taxes and progressive laws being passed.

    Well, it’s obviously a mix of different factors for different people, but I think the cost of housing is uppermost.

    Some people leave because the CA Legislature is very liberal and e.g. bans plastic straws.

    Some people leave because the population is so heavily non-white and immigrant.

    But of those who leave (or avoid moving here), I think the overwhelming majority have been impacted by very high housing prices that force you to live in small apt. or else spend hours each day commuting from your home in an outlying suburb. That has had a huge impact on quality-of-life issues.

    The important point to realize is that it impacts existing homeowners as much as newcomers. After all, if you own your small home free and clear, you can sell it for a huge amount of money and move to a different state where you can buy a huge, fancy home and still have lots of money left over to buy a Porsche and put in the bank.

    So if life in CA were as terrible as claimed on FoxNews and Breitbart, why wouldn’t many, many more millions of older white conservatives have sold their homes for a fortune, and fled the state?

    Obviously, in many respects living in CA isn’t as nice as it used to be decades ago when the state population was 50% lower, but it’s still pretty nice for existing homeowners, which is why they stay and don’t leave, although they do complain quite a bit.

    If the FoxNews/Breitbart picture of CA were correct, housing prices would obviously have fallen rather than risen to ridiculous heights.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  182. @Kyle

    Liar just making things up. Good work.

  183. fnn says:
    @No Left Turn

    I have worked in and walked through New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore with no problems, but 25 years in Southern California as a white person was a continuing gauntlet of unprovoked threats and insults from non-whites.

    You should inform Ron Unz of your ethnic-related hardships in SoCal. He keeps promoting the idea that ethnic friction in California is a phenomenon that barely exists.

  184. Trinity says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    Oh my, you called me a “faggot.” I am as about as pro white working class as it gets, because I am a member of that “tribe.” YOU on the other hand are the one that suggested that ANYONE and that INCLUDES A HELLUVA LOT OF WHITES that works in a factory or perform blue collar type work are addicted to drugs, lacking ambition, have emotional or mental problems, etc. Sounds like you might be addicted to drugs and have “emotional or mental problems,” Skippy. lololol.

    IF you read my posts entirely I did indeed admit that A GREAT DEAL OF MEXICANS AND ORIENTALS WORK HARDER AND ARE MORE CONSCIENTIOUS WORKERS THAN WHITES, AT LEAST THEY ARE IN THIS CENTURY. Working class Whites have been made lazy by adopting the habits of the negro who most have to work alongside in these types of jobs. Don’t know what generation you are a part of but if you are younger than 40 years of age, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU ARE LAZY when compared to the generations before you.

    Sorry, Skippy, but me TELLING THE TRUTH about Mexicans for the MOST part being hard workers is not “shitting on the white working class,” but anyone can read your last post and tell that you were looking down your nose at all people who do work which someone like you probably couldn’t hang with for more than a week before taking your sorry ass to some desk job. hahaha.

    IF you bothered to read my posts you would have saw where I claimed that while MOST Mexicans are hard workers, that they do indeed fit the stereotypes about being hard drinkers, a love of getting high on weed and/or drugs, they are sex starved and horny 24/7, have a propensity for violence and petty crime, these stereotypes are indeed true, but anyone who says that most Mexicans are lazy is full of shit. I am sure I can pick out some Mexicans who are lazy as shit, but I can pick out even more Whites, (probably YOU) who are shiftless and lazy good for nothings as well. hahahaha. So long, Skippy.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  185. @9/11 Inside job

    Looking at the latest results, Warren got screwed worse than Sanders.

    …………………………………….

    Sanders got 26.78% of the popular vote and 26.18% of the state delegate equivalents.

    Warren got 20.32% of the popular vote but only 18.01% of the state delegate equivalents.

    Buttigieg got 25.2% of the popular vote and 26.25% of the state delegate equivalents.

    Joe Biden only got 13.85% of the popular vote but got 15.88% of the state delegate equivalents.

    Klobuchar got 12.38% of the popular vote but got 12.29% of the state delegate equivalents.

    ……………………………………

    Delegate count seems to be 14 for Buttigieg, 12 for Sanders, 8 for Warren, 6 for Biden and 1 for Klubuchar.

    So the “far left” get 46% of the popular vote and actually do a bit better than that with delegates.

    I really don’t see much here for Sanders to bitch about. Seems like Much Ado About Nothing.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  186. @RadicalCenter

    I went to Yang’s website and nowhere does he suggest that he would decriminalize border crossings, i.e., downgrading a criminal matter to a civil matter. Since Yang is a lawyer he would know the difference. Nothing on Warren’s website to suggest she would downgrade illegal border crossings to a civil matter either. Of course she is a lawyer as well.

    Only Sanders’ website says that Sanders wants to downgrade illegal border crossings to a civil matter.

    If Liz wants to clearly distinguish herself from Bernie, that would be the way to do it.

  187. @Trinity

    Okay boomer retard.

    “Mexicans that I have worked around WORK MUCH HARDER THAN THE AVERAGE WHITE PERSON, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF WHITES WHO ARE ALMOST AS SORRY AS BLACKS.”

    “HOW DARE you look down on the BACKBONE OF THIS NATION, THE WHITE WORKING CLASS. YOU IGNORANT, ELITIST, EFFEMINATE, SNOB.”

    In typical POS boomer fashion it’s just young working class whites who are no better than niggers. It has nothing to do with them living in an America with an anti white establishment and 50 million nonwhite scabs, its just that young whites lack the grit, fortitude and determination of old working class whites like you, who spent your youth in an entirely different America, one that you had yet to completely fuck up.

    “YOU on the other hand are the one that suggested that ANYONE and that INCLUDES A HELLUVA LOT OF WHITES that works in a factory or perform blue collar type work are addicted to drugs, lacking ambition, have emotional or mental problems, etc.”

    A said that whites who are working in fields that no longer pay a living wage because they have been inundated with immigrant labor are the worst of the worst of the white working class. Blue collar work that still pays a living wage, like the auto industry is still being done by young hard working white people because it pays a living wage. You have classed the majority of ALL young white working class as worthless shitbags because you are an old dumb POS.

    More schizophrenic bullshit from this “truthtelling” old gasbag.

     “IF you think you can have a drug problem, emotional or mental problems or be an alcoholic and go to work in temperatures at around 100 degrees and actually WORK for 12 hours a day, you must NEVER have done any sort of physical work in you life. You wouldn’t last a week with that sort of lifestyle working in those type of conditions.”

    “IF you bothered to read my posts you would have saw where I claimed that while MOST Mexicans are hard workers, that they do indeed fit the stereotypes about being hard drinkers, a love of getting high on weed and/or drugs,”

    Is it only your super human Mexicans who can manage to be hard drinking drug addicts while working in such grueling conditions? Whites just can’t hack it.

    Again GTFO boomer faggot.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  188. Trinity says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    hahaha. Dance little monkey. You are a complete spazoid. Seeing as how you hate “boomers” so much, lemme guess, you are a 20-30 something year old male who is low on testosterone, ( so typical of your demographic), you are physically unfit, lacking in strength, endurance, and coordination, and probably lived with your parents until you were almost 30 years old. smdh. These wimps under 40 want to complain about “boomers?” At least boomers didn’t live with mommy and daddy until they were 30-40 years old. At least boomers were out working instead of playing video games. ROTFLMAO.

    Oh yes, I have seen Mexicans go out and drink all night and come in and work a 12 hour shift, something you couldn’t do if you were sober. Hell, I have done the same thing. Many nights as a 20 something I would venture out into Manhattan for some refreshments after working a day at the Coast Guard Station Governors Island and arrive on board just before muster. I GUARANTEE your little, lazy, physically weak self and your fellow Gen X-Y-Z clowns can not outwork a healthy 50-something year old Mexican male. I don’t take joy in saying that, but it is the truth, and in the words of Jack Nicholson, “YOU CAN”T HANDLE THE TRUTH. ” lolololol. I can’t help it that you are physically and mentally weak just like the majority of your generation. I do apologize for the few OUTSTANDING Whites that are below the age of 40, I am not saying all of you are as weak as this clown, but there are far too many of OUR race that are, and that is unfortunately the truth. At least a “boomer” would never stand around and watch a group of Blacks assault a white female like I have seen on videos featuring your generation. My lawd, how PATHETIC IS THAT ONE.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  189. Vaterland says:
    @johnwho

    All we really know ’bout ‘National Socialism’ is that Hitler used it to save Germany from poverty within six years of coming to power. That is one of the main reasons Hitler was forced into war and the country of Germany was destoyed.

    Well, the USA in particular has been waging a 100-150 years long direct and indirect war against my nation in particular, with WW2 being a de facto war of extermination which we may have only survived…because the USA needed a buffer state against the Soviet Union in the upcoming Cold War; but from Hans-Peter Dürr who, as Edward Teller’s and Werner Heisenberg’s protegee, had sat down with Pentagon generals many times, I know that the USA was more than ready to sacrifice all of central Europe in a limited nuclear, if such a thing had been possible. The coincidence of individual political leaders, ideologies, systems of governance play little to no role. Infantile as it may sound, ultimately it’s about world dominance, or world hegemony and leadership in the global capital system.

    This was also Stauffenberg’s mistake: He should have known that it was an American-English war plus Stalin against Germany, and Hitler and NS had nothing to do with it. In historical reality allied command also did treat Stauffenberg like just another ‘Gerry criminal’, some ‘Kraut’ to be put down. This attitude can also be confirmed in the US propaganda produced today.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
    , @utu
  190. Vaterland says:
    @Anon

    There is no middle way for Americans: it is victory or holocaust.”

    “Deutschland hat entweder das größte Reich aller Zeiten, oder das Nichts vor sich.” “Germany either has the greatest empire of all time or nothingness in front of it.”
    – Heinrich Himmler

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-jews-and-nazis/

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  191. Vaterland says:
    @Ron Unz

    Speaking of Max Blumenthal (here he encounters David Irving and his audience 12 years ago, shown in a video of the SPLC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhCbHZPwEEQ )

    Without a doubt one of the greatest strengths of your site and what the ADL hates and fears you for, is the dual-presence of articles by Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Steve Sailer and Stephen F. Cohen next to those of Kevin MacDonald, Andrew Joyce, Gilad Atzmon and Eric Striker on issues such as Jewishness identity politics, anti-Semitism and its causes, WW 2 and even Holocaust revisionism.

    Naturally and having my own limited experience with mainstream and ‘quality’ journalism in my own country in mind: Have you found a satisfying modus operandi to reconcile your own alternative views on WW 2, 9/11, JFK, Israel, Jewish Power and maybe even the Holocaust with your more main-line contributors? Just recently the liberation of Auschwitz and the distinctive role of the red army in it, which, according to Mr. Cohen, was well remembered in Israel, plaid a central role in one of his articles, whom you described as an eminent scholar, while Eric Striker concluded:

    At this point, it’s not a question of historical accuracy but of power. And only power can check power. We are living in the last days of the Holohoax.

    Quite the difference of perspective. Therefor I wonder: Is it an issue of lively debate between you and your contributors? Maybe in particular between you and your Jewish contributors on the topics of the Holocaust and WW2? Or are different viewpoints simply accepted and the site operated as is?

    I am also asking, because I personally could no longer continue to work with a very eminent journalist who is as high up in the structure of the AfD as it can be, because of the issues of Zionism, the power of the Jewish lobby, the Neocons, Trump, Weinstein and Epstein, and the real issues of our demise as a nation.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  192. @Ron Unz

    It’s very simple.

    House prices can rise even with plummeting standards of living and local demand if supported by international demand based on an internationally relative higher standard of living.

    This is why London house prices continue to sky-rocket even as literally millions upon millions of white people have fled since the mid 2000’s, as Barbara Roche and Blair’s population replacement operation has taken hold.

    It’s the same dynamic in California – and it’s entirely grounded in race, because the neo-Californian racial inflows are Hispanic, Asian, Indian, whereas in London it’s African, Caribbean, Asian, Indian. The out-flows are white, or non-white conservative.

    And no, once again, it isn’t FoxNews and Breitbart who have noticed something very very wrong in California, it’s the New York Times, the Atlantic, the Wall Street Journal, the Economist, and even some publications like Mother Jones and Slate where they just frame the problems around white privilege, white racist flight, white fragility etc.

    If Breitbart and FoxNews are entirely wrong, and the local editorials ludicrously ignoring all the seminal issues are right, why in fact at an increasing acceleration are so many conservatives leaving at all? Is it just conservatives leaving? Why are so many surrounding states complaining about influxes of Liberal-preference voters if it’s just Conservatives leaving?

    Here’s an example that suggests it isn’t just Conservatives leaving.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/everybody-is-freaking-freelance-writers-scramble-make-sense-new-california-law-1248195

    Is the Hollywood Reporter Fox News or Breitbart?

    When even the white privilege writers are dismayed at the model of Californian Liberal Neo-feudalism and it’s reported in the Hollywood Reporter, is there a possibility that all the people saying California is a model for post-America could be wrong?

    Bill AB 5 is the perfect combination of low IQ moronic diversity meeting socialism without Nationalism. The mover of the bill is Lorena Gonzalez, who is almost certainly receiving kick-backs from official channels so that they can continue the ludicrous lies that California is a perfect Potemkin Village without bothersome free-lancers.

    Just like Canada just tried to force all news providers to be official certified and licensed. Before Castro’s son had to back down, because the people haven’t quite yet been sufficiently conditioned to total slavery, yet.

    So people like Unz and the Cake-Tailor Anon can say that the House isn’t burning as everyone else is smelling the charcoal.

    Because the Labour-Union angle Gonzalez is trying to run is completely ridiculous. Legacy media faces systemic economic issues and demand issues based on their lies as nobody believes anything they report anymore, not ‘unfair’ ‘union-breaking’ competition from free-lance mothers and part-time workers and mothers trying to survive in Commiefornia.

    Free-Lance writing reflects the state of the market and preferences of it’s demand curve. But nope, this is faggot-fornia.

    And funnily enough, all the big legacy media MockingBird Media Propaganda fake news organs like the LA Times, or the Bezos vehicle Washington Post etc are silent on the effect of the bill.

    And the bill effects most persons of colour who thrive under the freelance model. And as the article states, many of those freelancers are going to leave the State. How hilarious is it that the Hollywood Reporter reports that ‘white’ publications won’t hire people of colour? Well that’s because they’re doing that thing again – the white people are Jews. And POC’s know this, and aren’t stupid, and that’s why Feinstein wasn’t sponsored by the local DNC and it’s a ticking clock as the demographics continue to change.

    It’s just a shit-show, drafted by idiots, on behalf of criminals, to make life worse for little people in every way possible, to support the mendacious and ridiculous views of the people who say if Breitbart talks about the Census Bureau, that somehow changes the molecular properties of the primary source data, and it isn’t real.

    The Hollywood Reporter article is full of gems:

    “The people that will really be screwed are the people that will fall under the requirements for [employee] benefits,” Greg Zbylut, a tax attorney and estate planner at Breyer Andrew, says. Some freelancers might have a SEP-IRA (a retirement benefit for business owners) and their own health care as freelancers only to find “all of a sudden I’m an employee but I’m not working enough hours to qualify for the pension plan and I’m not working enough hours to be required to have insurance provided for me,” he adds.

    Basically, Jews pretending to be white are doing the same thing they did with house prices to free-lance media. Local planning laws, by laws, land-banking, make it practically impossible to build new housing, and they don’t have sufficient water or electricity to handle additional load anyway.

    Then, these Liberals and Jews say that the phenomena of their policy preferences is somehow the second law of Thermodynamics, the same way as they said it was Newton’s Law that all the US jobs and manufacturing had to go to Asia and China and we had to become a neo-feudalist service economy.

    Here, they’re just erecting by-laws to make it impossible for anyone to compete with existing Liberal propaganda publications.

    “Some writers, like Lamare, are seriously considering leaving the state. Others say they don’t have a choice. “Covering entertainment, I can’t really do that in another state: The stories I’m covering are here,” Topel says.”

    Oh look, writers are going to have to leave the State. Nothing to do with house prices at all. Everything to do with race and lower quality of life and socialism.

    And of course, it is still frankly stupid to pretend that the housing market caused by international in-flows defeating local quality of life reductions somehow, magically, sorcerously, very Jewishly, has nothing to do with race.

    Again, this is an Hispanic politician moving this ridiculous bill – does anyone really believe apart from just the kick-backs she’ll be getting it has nothing to do with race?

    So here’s a question – if the housing market has nothing to do with race, given that laws like AB 5 make it impossible for anyone to earn a living who are the houses being sold to.

    Remember, out of state purchases can be considered international in this context under many conditions.

    • Replies: @utu
  193. @Trinity

    I’ll leave it to the reader to determine if this POS is: 

    “as about as pro white working class as it gets, because I am a member of that “tribe.” 

    Or a pathetic, bitter and lonely old man blaming all the ills of the society he helped create on:

    ” little, lazy, physically weak self and your fellow Gen X-Y-Z clowns (who) can not outwork a healthy 50-something year old Mexican male.”

    Also

    “At least a “boomer” would never stand around and watch a group of Blacks assault a white female like I have seen on videos featuring your generation.”

    This from a guy who places himself in NYC in the 80s at the height of the black-white crime epidemic who also admitted to fleeing Baltimore to escape black violence.

    Just a complete and total demented scumbag. Rant on old man.

  194. @Ron Unz

    Have you seen the New Way Forward Act Unz?

    It has some implications that further add to the impossibility of your Grand Bargain.

    So New York has passed laws that state that anyone who agrees to appear as a witness in the State against Hispanic criminals has to have their identity disclosed to the gang-banger’s lawyer.

    Naturally, a young Hispanic boy who witnessed a crime was beaten to death in front of his house by gang-members.

    But remember, Hispanics never commit crime, and they’re all just 13 year old doves and lambs like Trayvon Martin and it’s racist to protect witnesses to their crimes. This is what it means to be a Sanctuary state.

    But let’s look at the New Way Forward Act. Why are free-lance writers being shut down at a time bills such as this are pending in the DNC Congress when Mockingbird Media refuses to report on the implications?

    It’s sponsored by 44 House Democrats. Including ‘the Squad’. If Tucker Carlson is wrong, at all, about any aspect of the bill, then you should absolutely post refutations.

    The preamble to the bill “Convictions should not lead to deportation“.

    The bill targets felony convictions.

    Jesus Garcia says it will break the ‘prison to deporation pipeline’.

    Currently, immigrants can be deported if they commit an aggravated felony, or crime of moral terpitude, like molesting children.

    – The NWFA eliminates entirely both of those categories as triggers for deportation.

    Under current law immigrants who commit serious crimes like child molestation and fraud must be reported regardless of sentences they receive. Less severe crimes like racketeering require deporation if there is a 1 year sentence.

    – The NWFA removes all automatic deporations for any crimes.
    – Falsifying a passport would be made totally immune to deportation. Meanwhile, law-abiding citizens have to comply with the Real-ID act. Criminal immigrants would be excepted.

    [MORE]

    – the Crime threshold for deporation would rise from 1 year to 5 years. Bureau of Justice statistics show that crimes like fraud, car-jacking, and home-invasions have sentences lower then 5 years. But there are rapes, man-slaughters, and other serious crimes that routinely get less then 5 years due to Liberal judges adopting the European view that these crimes are just Hispanic culture.

    Immigrants who receive those sentences can remain in the United States, and will be eligible for citizenship, and other DNC are calling for them to be able to vote.

    Even a 5 year prison sentence won’t be enough to trigger deportation.

    – The bill will give Immigration Judges absolutely discretion to nullify a deporation order based on: “Humanitarian purposes”, “Assure family unity”, “Otherwise in the public interest”.

    Cultural Marxist Judges at the lower courts levels will have total control on US national security and immigration policy. At the State level. Because border States’ policies have Federal consequences. As Daniel Horowitz has already pointed out, the courts have basically ended the President’s plenary powers on immigration.

    We’ve replaced 157 of them, and there will be many more to go.

    – The NWFA removes drug addiction as grounds for deporation
    – Anyone committing drug crimes abroad or ‘any’ crimes involving moral terpitude will now be eligible to immigrate to the United States.

    Currently that’s barred. The NWFA will allow a Mexican drug-cartel leader to come to the United States legally, and illegaly.

    – The bill decriminalizes illegal entry into America, even by those we have previously deported.

    What was said above? That anything other then total amnesty and racial subjugation will be regarded as white supremacist?

    Well a supporting document to the bill says that criminalizing illegal entry into the United States is white supremacist.

    – The bill abolishes all existing enforcement against illegal immigration.
    – ICE has to prove in court that an immigrant is dangerous or a flight risk, but they would be prohibited from referring to their priors/criminal record as proof of danger. Because that’s racist.
    – If the detainee identifies as gay or transgender or under 21 or can’t speak English and an interpreter isn’t available, there can be no hearing, and they have to be released.

    That still isn’t it.

    Keeping in mind the bill allows rapists, child-molesters, drug-traffickers and frauds to stay in America and enter America with impunity.

    – The bill requires taxpayer money to bring deported criminals back into America under “The Right to Come Home”. There has to be a pathway for those previously deported, if they would have complied with the new law.

    So if an MS13 gangbanger raped and murdered a little white girl, like what happened to that Mormon family, and a cultural marxist judge gave him 4 years and he was deported, you would have to pay for him to move in next store.

    I’m not making it up – if you disagree because it’s on Fox News which changes the Space-Time Continuum, go and read the bill and tell me and Tucker where it’s wrong.

    – DHS must spend taxpayer money transporting convicted illegal aliens back into the United States. Tens of thousands of rapists, drug traffickers, weapons traffickers, frauds, we’d all have to pay for to ‘come home’.

    – Then we have to pay for their health-care.

    America will become a haven for the entire world’s set of predators and criminals.

    Not mentioned on NYT, the CNN, National Review.

    So why are free-lancers being banned from media?

    Import illegal alien felons and pay for it – but in California what matters is imbeciles talking about State Colleges versus Universities.

    So the DNC and it’s diversity-base think that America is a rogue state. It has to be destroyed. Our customs, our freedoms, our history, our values, our population.

    An entirely new country where resistance is crushed, the possibility of resistance is ended, and foreign mercenaries act as an enforcement paramilitary for a conquest of the United States of America.

    So tell us some more about that Grand Bargain?

    Your wonderful Grand Bargain from 2011, with it’s optimistic appraisal of the incentives acting on the DNC, and the character of the race they are using as their weapon.

    This will be a test.

    If Hispanics support that bill, which amounts to treason and sedition, merely because the sponsors are Hispanic, it shows that there is zero hope left for any kind of civic nationalist solution.

    I actually don’t think most Hispanics would support the bill. But they’re not being given an opportunity to know it exists. Or are they?

    And, based on the experience of law-abiding Hispanics in New York who act as witnesses then get beaten to death by the gang-bangers you say don’t exist, they may not have that opportunity without a Republican in the White-House, if they can’t get one in the governor’s office or in the state legislatures.

    Because you, you and the others like you in California, will be the happy recipients first of the Bill’s consequences.

    Can you please update your Grand Bargain?

    What do you think are the prospects now of your Grand Bargain?

    Are Jews starting to understand their peril yet? The consequences of their stupidity and hubris and arrogance and depravity and callousness and greed and duplicity? Because who does Daniel Horowitz say has a terminus of control over MS13 and the border trafficking?

    I would like to know Mr Unz’s view of this bill, and whether it alongside Hispanic support for Bernie Sanders’ economic platform suggests his views of the future might need adjusting.

    I can already anticipate exactly what you will say – but do you think trends are important? Do you think it matters that bills like this can be passed at the local level? Like the Virginia gun bills? Do you think demographic trends won’t allow this to be enacted at the Federal level? What is the appropriate response to this level of terrorism against the American nation?

    Why are Hispanic representatives engaged in this? I thought you said they were perfect 1:1 substitutes for Anglo-Saxon legacy Americans. Hold on, that’s strange. So their views on the Constitution perfectly exceed even the most pessimistic viewpoint on their consistency with Americans. And, their economic status as outputs and not inputs is totally opposite to what you say.

    So what are we going to do about this? I think you know the answer.

  195. Trinity says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    Ahem. I was still in school when my father left Baltimore and I was STATIONED AT GOVERNORS ISLAND WHILE SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD, Skippy. You just assume that I was 20 something and living with mommy and daddy because that is so common in your generation. hahaha. LMAO at the pathetic basement dwellers.

    Don’t blame your generation’s lack of guts or testosterone on me. I mean how can I help it that your kind FOR THE MOST PART are race mixing, gutless, and can’t even leave mommy and daddy’s nest until you are middle aged. smdh.

    You IDIOTS blame baby boomers, try taking a look at yourself in the mirror, you Gen X-Y-Z or whatever you losers want to call yourselves are even more cuckold than the WWII generation. IF anything it is baby boomers who are the last decent generation of Whites as of now. I can only hope the upcoming generations will be better than the under 40 gutless, weak and pathetic losers we have now. Enuff, with you, payaso ( look I learned Spanglish working with Mexicans.) You are an overly sensitive spazoid loser. Be gone and grow a pair.

  196. @Vaterland

    The USA or at least Trump is today more than ready to sacrifice all of central Europe to nukes or it / he would NEVER have withdrawn from the short range BM treaty.

  197. utu says:
    @Vaterland

    Are you a child? Get a hold of yourself.

  198. Ron Unz says:
    @Vaterland

    Without a doubt one of the greatest strengths of your site and what the ADL hates and fears you for, is the dual-presence of articles by Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Steve Sailer and Stephen F. Cohen next to those of Kevin MacDonald, Andrew Joyce, Gilad Atzmon and Eric Striker on issues such as Jewishness identity politics, anti-Semitism and its causes, WW 2 and even Holocaust revisionism….Quite the difference of perspective. Therefor I wonder: Is it an issue of lively debate between you and your contributors?

    Thanks. But remember I mostly just republish the pieces of these different writers, so they don’t necessarily need to interact with anyone else. I’ve assume that most of them disagree with each other’s views on a whole range of different topics. But that’s traditionally been the case with e.g. the NYT Op-Ed page, though obviously to a much lesser extent.

    Another factor to consider is that individuals struggling against a very powerful Establishment should recognize that they need to form very broad ideological alliances if they seek any hope of success. I outlined this in a short piece a few years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-breaching-the-media-barrier/

  199. KA says:

    The banking system, which it had sought to protect, nearly collapsed, with the number of bank failures larger than in any year since 1893.24 Because America had become the key financial actor in the global economy, the period of inflation and deflation, organized by the Fed, went worldwide. So did social instability. Fascism rose in Italy, communism in Russia. In Germany would come Hitler’s attempted coup at a beer hall. The Republicans used this episode they called “the crime of 1920” to bludgeon the Democrats in the 1920 elections. The boom and bust shattered the electoral coalition of farmers and workers that Wilson had sought to organize as the Democratic Party coalition.25 The agrarian crisis led to a revival of the Ku Klux Klan, as a Wilson official alleged that low commodity prices were due to Wall Street conspiracies. The Klan was reborn in 1916 with a few hundred members. But by the early 1920s, the Klan had four million members, and this time it wasn’t centered in the South but stretched across the country: the mayor of Portland, Oregon, and the mayor of Portland, Maine, were both Klansmen. Texas, Alabama, and Indiana sent Klansmen to the Senate in 1923. With war had come fears of subversion and a wave of xenophobia. These did not disappear when the troops came home; on the contrary, they often grew worse. Congress passed racist immigration policies. “The dregs of Europe” and elsewhere, cried

    Stoller, Matt. Goliath: The 100-Year War Between Monopoly Power and Democracy (p. 32). Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.

    It seems 1920 is back . Is it sign of our time? Did we do things any different this time?

  200. @Futurethirdworlder

    Put him on ignore and be done with it. The guy is clearly out to lunch on the mestizo question. Probably a cloud person like our host.

    For every hard working border jumper there are 2-3 on the dole. The residences they occupy in middle class neighborhoods are Who Houses. I should know, I live in a working class neighborhood. One mestizo mother proudly visits the local food pantry, acquires free food, cooks it up into a hearty platter of obesity, then sells it to neighbors. Another house has 4 generations of mestizos living within its 2000 square feet. The specific number I cannot be sure but it’s at least 9. On Halloween 20 year old minivans pull into the neighborhood, disembarking costume deficient mestizo teenagers with paper sacks to collect free candy in an effort to max out future emergency room visits for Type II diabetes treatment. I could go on for pages but you get the idea.

    Yes, I’m sure the butt hurt browns and their enablers might reply with some tired bullshit about white trash, or as Ron says, “WN types” – basically a thinly veiled slur (News to Ron and the rest, every race of people has its underclass, including the Chinese and the Chews. Why the US must harbor the entirety of the global underclass hasn’t been adequately explained, besides the contention that booting illegal gardeners out of the Bay Area is anti-semitic.) – but all of this misses the fundamental question: And that is, Are people of European descent allowed to have anything of their own, free of the Big Lie of Diversity? Ron apparently seems to think not (unless we can price ourselves out of their reach with gated estates in Palo Alto or the like.)

    Myself and many of other believe the answer is yes, however. And that answer renders all of the peripheral discussion about race and IQ and the rest of it moot. Because it doesn’t matter if Asians or the Juice are “smarter” than Europeans. They can be smarter than Europeans back in Asia and Israel. If mestizos are harder working than heritage Americans, they can be harder workers back in Meh-hee-ko. And etcetera etcetera. I wish them all well.

    • Agree: Dannyboy, RadicalCenter
  201. @Ron Unz

    All withering rhetoric and polemic aside, and thank-you for tolerating it on what is your website.

    Will Hispanics and Democrats in plurality support bills like The New Way Forward Act? If not now, do you think they might do in the future?

    What do you think is an appropriate response to these kind of bills and what they import?

    Genuinely curious – you have more knowledge then most about what is happening in California and amongst the centre-left in the United States. Your advice on this would be welcome.

    What do you think is the uniparty angle behind these bills? Is it Cloward-Piven or racial-wedging, or is it both?

    Is there really a sentiment that enforcing existing immigration law warrants such nuclear bills?

    What is driving this kind of declaration basically of war on United States civic society? Or is that an emotive over-statement?

    Are the billionaires behind the DNC community organisers just trying to cause the kind of commensurate retaliation that they would use to justify and unjustifiable bill in the first place? If so, how can people trying to keep the United States together negotiate all the dynamics?

    Is it too late? If the sentiment is so in advance of actual activity is there even any point now of trying to change the sentiment?

    Is it true that these kind of bills are like the final litmus test for civic nationalism? I just can’t believe that the average Hispanic who understood this bill could possibly support it.

    Is Tucker right that this cannot be dismissed any more merely as pandering to a base?

    This time these aren’t rhetorical questions.

    These are real questions. What do you think is happening with the New Way Forward Act really and what would be right response to prevent further racial divisions in the United States.

  202. utu says:
    @Californication

    Whatever are the problems with California or the US they are more likely to be related to this curve:

    To what extent these curves for the US and the Anglo countries are driven by immigration in comparison with the European countries remains to be demonstrated.

  203. Pandour says: • Website

    Bernie is unstoppable-onwards with the blessing of God.

  204. @lysias

    Spanish was hard for me to learn, and I grew up all around it. I even had the accent right.

    But that is really not the point. Another language is just another wedge, like skin color and religion.

    At some point the accumulation of wedges make things fall apart (the center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world).

  205. @davidgmillsatty

    truthout.org :”Don’t let the corporate media or the DNC fool you- Sanders scored a big win in Iowa “-
    Sanders supporters are upset about how the results in Iowa were fixed because it happened the last time around when the DNC fixed the primaries to ensure a win for Hillary Clinton , see : observer.com: “Court concedes DNC had the right to rig the primaries against Sanders ” , it’s ironic but the DNC is not democratic.

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  206. Vaterland says:
    @Ron Unz

    Concerning your strategy regarding the Mainstream Media, I think it is generally correct and the increasing success of the Unz review backs it up. The wide variety of angles of attack from a great variety of ideological positions and perspectives makes it indeed harder to deflect by the establishment. Also a broad coalition against the entrenched establishment is absolutely necessary. And I think there are important topics with which we all agree on, right, left, libertarian, conservative and moderate: an end to the wars, an end to the increasing wealth disparity, an end to the decline of pluralism, transparency, the rule of law and sound democratic processes.

    [MORE]

    But let’s take the example of Occupy Wall Street. I am a neo-reactionary greatly sympathetic to monarchism and with some understanding for why NS arose, and yet I consider it one of the most important movements of the last decades. In the beginning it was indeed a broad, populist movement against the exploitation of financial capitalism, using the momentum of the 2008 economic recession which was largely blamed on actors as Goldman Sachs and the reckless and self-enriching behavior of the West’s financial elites and government corruption. But the broad coalition of the disenfranchised, “the 99%”, quickly fell apart into all kinds of particular grievances. And one of the conspiracy theories proposes, that the new left identity politics were injected from the outside to break it apart, with an Alt-Right/’far-right’ reaction as a welcomed further irreconcilable divide of the population.

    Whether it is true or not, when it comes to serious political coalition building, a rebel alliance of grievances with no common ideological core is indeed easy to divide. Naturally, if we are ruled by a de facto one-party system with a permanent establishment which has little regard for the actual needs and wishes of the people it rules, the 99% would have to come together to defeat it.’ The Left’ and ‘the Right’ and everyone in-between would have to truly unite in their struggle. And what had made National Socialism so effective, was that it had united the two great movements of its time, nationalism and socialism, initially at odds, with an actually highly modern use of mass media and propaganda, but also anchoring it in the great foundation myths and identities of the nation, a true party of Weltanschauung (at least it appeared so, but that’s a different discussion). Obviously such an attempt would look very different in the USA, or each individual nation for that matter, but these general necessities seem universal to me.

    Yet especially considering WW 2 and the true world order it established, we come to the realization that in the end the establishment media is just the soft-power mouthpiece of very serious and very hard power in a struggle of global dominance. And they lie consciously and systematically. Entire campaigns of disinformation, misdirection and lies upon lies. Take just the case of the alleged Iraqi WMDs: the initial information on them had come from an Iraqi defector to the German BND and the position of the BND according to then foreign minister Joschka Fischer was quite clear: “He could be telling us the truth, but he may as well swindle to us. Yet the Americans had turned it immediately into a hard fact.” Because, I assume today, the real power in the USA had wanted this war, since decades as outlined by Netanyahu, Oded Yinon and the Project for a new American century. And while Germany and France said no, the war went on regardless, with many Americans believing that Saddam had done 9/11 thanks to the artificial reality productions. The policies that matter are largely not voted on, the people that design them are not (directly) elected, who we vote for makes little difference, because what matters is monetary influence and lobby groups, exemplified by Sheldon Adelson, Paul Singer and AIPAC.

    A public aware of the lies is only part of a potential resistance. The citizens of the GDR and the Soviet Union in general were very aware of the ridiculous and crude propaganda of the system they lived in and yet had absolutely no means to change it. And increasingly I have the strong perception we are slowly but surely sliding into a new form of totalitarianism with modern tools on the side of the true power elite which go way beyond those of the Stasi or KGB. Especially in my country in which much of the media is controlled by the state, laws of the national constitution and EU law are broken, the highest ranking public officials like Hans-Georg Maaßen forced to resign, if they step out of line and dare to say the truth about events in Chemnitz which the Merkel government systematically lied about, and entire elections are nullified, if the outcome is unwanted as recently happened in Thuringia. And while the inquisitors of the media and political establishment search for Nazis in the middle class party of the AfD, which do not exist, the de facto one party coalition includes open communists while the AfD itself is busy to purge all the Anti-Zionists from its ranks to appease the lobby. Nevermind the ongoing economic, disinformation and political-colonial warfare against my nation, largely by US actors. Or the political prisoners for illegal opinions.

    Is a little bit of better healthcare, different tax rates, less interventionism and more media plurality enough to reform such a situation…? And are these modest goals even truly achievable with the current political order? Say about those in the Alt-Right what you will, but they have realized that they are fundamentally at odds with the world order they live in and its power cathedral. And while it may be true that it was easier to convince silicon valley to purge the Alt-Right fringe, because of factually wrong statements about Hispanics which strongly contradicted their individual real life experiences, but European Identitarians are at least just as much persecuted and deplatformed; even entire middle class parties as the AfD blockaded from the political process and libeled as Nazis while it is the Mainstream Media which spreads systematic disinformation and the facts are on our side, just as scholarly federal banker and long experienced SPD politician Tilo Sarrazin had outlined and who was recently ejected from his almost life-long party.

    Isn’t the fundamental cause for the reaction of the Western establishment towards identitarian nationalism a fundamental contradiction about what the West, what the USA and Europe should be? What they are and who we are? And the resistance against a systematic political program, unprecedented in European history which liberal Jewish Harvard academic Yascha Mounk had described in the German Tagesthemen as the: “The historically unique experiment to transform a culturally and ethnically homogeneous country into a multi-cultural and multi-ethnic one?” Yet could we under such circumstances bring true change, simply because we are informed, critical citizens? Why should I, whose entire family had been ethnically cleansed from the Sudetenland and barely survived, accept it, to be peacefully “replaced” and lose my homeland, my only one, a second time in much less than a century? To watch the abolishment of German culture, nationhood and potentially the entire folk? What happens in Tibet we rightfully consider ethno-cultural genocide. What makes the situation in Europe now so fundamentally different? I remember Morgenthau, Kaufman and Hooton. We all should. And I remember all the anti-German racists with their pathological hatred I encountered.

    If a broad coalition of the public is to engage in a potentially deadly struggle for revolution, which I say in the light of the political murders in my country, Europe and the USA but also our pan-Western Cultural Revolution mode, we should have a very clear view of where we want to go and what the better world actually should look like. This clearly also means an ideological and political world struggle. In my view, the American Revolutionary War had started over much less than what we have to endure today, only the modern comfort levels make it all too easy to endure. We can of course passively accept it and maybe even make a good living. But then we are nothing but the serves our establishment has come to sees us as.

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  207. Miro23 says:
    @Vaterland

    And I think there are important topics with which we all agree on, right, left, libertarian, conservative and moderate: an end to the wars, an end to the increasing wealth disparity, an end to the decline of pluralism, transparency, the rule of law and sound democratic processes.

    The traditional right (not neo-con globalists) are also useful on real environmentalism and protecting natural habitat – which has a lot do with frontiers, unity and national identity. Ref. the excellent article by Paul Tripp: https://www.unz.com/article/the-green-new-right/

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  208. Vaterland says:
    @Miro23

    I agree. As you may be aware, the roots of environmentalism significantly overlap with the spiritual-intellectual movement out of which also National Socialism came and the first animal protection laws were enacted in the Third Reich, just like the Führer was a convicted vegetarian. An uncomfortable truth many of our Marxist, Maoist and more moderate leftist comrades in the Green parties try to forget. It also befits our “pagan”, native European religious roots. Not to mention hardcore Nazis as Savitri Devi and her utopian world view in the impeachement of man which goes so far that I cannot identify with it. https://archive.org/stream/impeachment-of-man-savitri-devi/impeachment-of-man-savitri-devi_djvu.txt

    But I am also working on a little book on these issues in which among many other questions of sophia perennis from the right, I propose an inclusion of classical environmentalism within the right. It shouldn’t be left to those in Cultural Revolution mode who like to wear vagina hats. And obviously I am not the only one.

    The issues of our time are very complex and we are most often left with narrow and single-minded narratives which cannot lead to real solutions, or outright disinformation campaigns. Left and right more often than not have significant blind spots and would do good to debate and challenge each other. If not for anything else, it might lead us to identify and clear up the systemic disinformation which both sides have been fed by the ruling elite. A discussion which is not wanted by this de facto one party establishment of the West, which likes us just as we are: deeply divided, at each other’s throats, as they are laughing to their banks.

  209. @Vaterland

    Ohne Kinder und ohne Mut hat Deutschland leider nur Aussterbung (extinction) vor sich.

    Apologies for my imperfect German.

    As Thilo Sarazin’s book said, “Deutschland schafft sich ab.”

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  210. Vaterland says:
    @RadicalCenter

    *sein Aussterben would fit better

    But that’s true for the entire West and realistically further down the road Eastern Europe as well. As bad as it is, purely demographically speaking the USA and UK and France and Sweden are worse off. The most “diverse” cities in Germany are Offenbach and Frankfurt, which I know very well, but they are still rather white cities compared to London, Birmingham, or Detroit. One of the positive things of Schengen was that most of our immigrants were inter-European migrants from fellow European countries. Not ideal, but more harmonious than mass immigration from North Africa and Subsahara Africa and the Middle East. No parallel societies, not more crime per capita, or educational failure and life-long welfare usage. But the real problem is of course the radical left-wing politics and their almost religious zealotry which I experienced first hand.

    I think the enlightenment was wrong: the people don’t want “Sapere aude!”, they want faith and to be part of a powerful mass/mob. It is scary to see how the media agitates and the masses feel all their social inhibitors slip, then they spit, beat, demolish, arson, stalk, harass, or even murder, just as long as someone is declared a “Nazi”. There you realize: yes, war is at least possible again. And then of course there is this almost Satanic evil spirit that has possessed the West today. During the march for life, which is not far right in the slightest, the radical left protested with slogans such as “Für jedes Kind, das ihr bekommt, treiben wir eins ab.” “For every child you have, we will abort one.” Demonic.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  211. @Basehonoluluhaole

    For Adorno and company that would in The Authoritarian Personality. A study that was a part of a larger work: Studies in Prejudice, or something like that. A research project finance by a major Jewish organization. I believe it might have even been the American Jewish Congress.

    The American Jewish Committee — from their Department of “Scientific” Research. They still have this ignorant, hate-filled rant posted on their website as one of their proudest “achievements.”

    Its basic thesis was that normal family structure among the White goyim is due to a “personality disorder,” and that only by destroying this family structure could they successfully eradicated this “insanity,” destroy any vestiges of group identity and instill active out-group preference in the target population, in order to reshape the host society into one better suited to the needs of the Tribe (aka “eradicate fascism”).

    This is a good review of the motivations behind Studies in “Prejudice”, as laid out by Samuel H. Flowerman, Research Director of the AJC and co-editor of the series. As he put it:
    “To be successful, mass propaganda on the behalf of out-groups would have to modify the standards of the in-group.”

    For Jewish historian of America history, Richard Hofstaedter, the work in question would be The Paranoid Style in American Politics.

    Bingo. The old “When the goyim have political opinions that differ from mine; that are “too parochial” and “not cosmopolitan enough” — it’s because they’re simply crazy” canard.

    A typically-semitic attempt to characterize dissent from the desired narrative as “psychopathology.”

    We know that Hofstadter was correct in his claim, because he was able to cite a fellow tribesman who agreed with him, and had independently “discovered” that the goyim were all crazy back in the olden days, too:

    Studying the millennial sects of Europe from the eleventh to the sixteenth century, Norman Cohn believed he found a persistent psychic complex that corresponds broadly with what I have been considering…

    You can see the same theme in America as a Gun Culture by Hofstadter — a virulent, unreasoning attack on the Second Amendment and American gun culture as not only “dangerous,” but “insane;” promoted and maintained by “gun-addicted” White goyim.

  212. @Polite Intellectual

    when did Adorno and Hofstaedter declare the working class to be mentally ill xenophobes?

    I am 99% sure that he meant Adorno and Horkheimer instead of Adorno and Hofstadter.

    The Paranoid Style in American Politics

  213. @9/11 Inside job

    I am very well aware of all that in depth. So how were the results “fixed” in Iowa in 2020? Were lots of votes not counted? This time around, Sanders had a much better ground game than last and has name recognition. In 2016 in Iowa he was still an unknown to a lot of people, even progressives.

    Last time the Sanders campaign was underfunded for much of the time and had to go up against the heavily funded Clinton. This time they do not have the competition and they have really gotten good at begging for money. I know. I get numerous requests every day. It was not like this last time.

    Just because you had a legitimate bitch in 2016, doesn’t mean you have one for 2020.

  214. @Anon

    Jewish activism is partially motivated by an attempt to stamp out things that cause [so-called] “Holocausts.” Which is of course what it basically is, and that includes the neoconservative movement. From wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle):

    Perle and Frum conclude: “For us, terrorism remains the great evil of our time, and the war against this evil, our generation’s great cause … There is no middle way for Americans: it is victory or holocaust.” These ideas are foundational elements of neoconservatism.

    This quote is a near-perfect encapsulation of the paranoid, ethnonarcissistic fantasy that forms the core of toxic, hate-filled semitism — and that the Tribe projects onto their perceived “enemies” in order to “morally justify” their crimes.

    Essentially “If we create a narrative that defines the goy Other as self-evidently ‘evil’, and the in-group as automatically ‘good’, then there’s nothing wrong with attacking them by any means possible — cuz it’s really ‘self-defense’, doncha know!”

    Thanks for illustrating this point so clearly.

  215. Cato says:

    Diversity or Socialism?

    Damn, what a choice. Why not “Order or Liberty”? or “Community or Cosmopolitanism”? A choice where both options have something to be said for them. But a choice between disastrous this and failed that? — this is something we should wish on our enemies.

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