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Never before has the public thirsted more for a no-holds barred street fight with capital. And never before has the electoral left been beaten so badly because of it.

Bernie Sanders’ decision to finally pull the plug on his campaign should serve as a lesson for the dissident left. Bernie’s second round gave him massively impressive fundraising numbers, name recognition and a much weaker opponent, yet the Democratic establishment thoroughly routed him by tapping into black racism, Jewish anti-fascism and upper middle class suburban fears of armed white populism and higher taxes.

Biden is a promise to return to the Obama era, the time of state-backed Ferguson riots, the persecution of regime opponents and historic wealth inequality.

Rather than doubling down on his white and male working class base, Bernie insulted his voters and let them know they were taken for granted. He fought — indirectly — for Elizabeth Warren’s small but vocal base of “woke” college professors and urban gentry, the type of people overrepresented in digital media and on twitter who believe green austerity (climate change policy), queer and transgender “liberation,” policing all the made up -isms and -phobias along with “microaggressions,” and stripping borders and national identity take precedent over the 10s of millions struggling to get health care or a decent job.

The Democratic Socialists of America: Subversives and Traitors

The biggest beneficieries from Bernie’s 2016 left-populism were the Democratic Socialists of America, who positioned themselves to grow exponentially in the aftermath of Bernie’s surprisingly strong anti-capitalist protest candidacy.

This organization, whose leadership includes neo-liberals like “former” CIA operative Gloria Steinem and Hillary Clinton apparatchik Dolores Huerta, has long been a left-wing deradicalization entity.

The ideological father of the DSA, the Trotskyist turned Zionist neo-con Max Schachtman, supported the US in the Korean war and even backed the Bay of Pigs attack on Cuba. He was one of the biggest influences in the “democratic socialist” movement, mentoring the DSA’s founder Michael Harrington, constantly looking to harness anti-capitalist sentiment and turn it into a liberal Democratic Party voting bloc until finally emigrating to illiberal, racial-exterminationist Israel in 1981.

Fast forward to today, and we see that the DSA was clearly directly involved in Bernie’s new, awful and unpopular social platform. While Bernie has a long track record of voting against mass immigration and in favor of gun-rights (a reputation that helped win the white working class and rural vote in 2016), the DSA officially promotes open borders (as penned by a Jew named Stephanie Schwartz), “sex workers” (prostitution and human trafficking), abolishing the 2nd Amendment, forcing transgenderism on the unwilling public, white-to-black reparations (which Bernie refused to support), and other bourgeois neoliberal positions Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren’s donors not only themselves desire, but easily outflanked Bernie on.

While the DSA has a poor record on foreign policy (like supporting the CIA operations in Kurdistan or calling John Bolton a hero), it’s not just potential infiltration from suspicious actors that is their problem. The DSA’s class orientation is why they put working people’s economic and cultural wishes on the back burner: urban gentry (“hipsters”) and academics. Is it any wonder these anarchists and liberal types accuse “class reductionists” of being Nazis?

One example of a DSA outgrowth hurting Bernie-populism is wishy-washy fraud Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who holds a 13% national approval rating yet set the tone for much of his campaign. An example of her bizarre outlook was to demand Bernie stop campaigning on one of his few popular issues, Medicare for All (which was popular across the board until Democrats promised to provide it to illegal aliens as well) and instead go off the deep end on issues the new left is universally unpopular on (immigration, criminal justice, anti-family, etc).

AOC exploited Bernie’s platform to give speeches, sometimes taking positions contradictory to Bernie, on “queer liberation,” abolishing ICE, and sometimes would not mention Bernie at all at rallies held in his name. At the same time, she discouraged Bernie’s supporters from attacking the highly vulnerable yet just-destructive-enough Warren, while promising to support Biden.

Sean McElwee, the “Grover Norquist of the left,” is or was a member of the Upper Manhattan wing of the DSA. McElwee impressed his fellow elites in Upper Manhattan by being the first to come up with the idea of abolishing ICE, an idea that voters in both parties find ridiculous. McElwee today has become a Biden consultant, and has been attempting to astroturf left-wing excitement for the senile candidate, only to be laughed at.

There are many other examples of DSA figures turning Bernie populism into a neoliberal freak show and discouraging a two-fisted approach when it was vital to knock Warren out early. The two most important publications on the Bernie left — The Jacobin and Current Affairs — saw their editors Bhaskar Sunkara and Nathan Robinson demanding their supporters respect a “truce” between Warren and Bernie — an “alliance” Warren and her donors never signed up to.

There were a few leftists who contradicted this message, like Aimee Terese, but she was dismissed as a “NazBol” and then mass reported off twitter by “Antifa.” DSA operatives Robinson and Sunkara have now changed their mind about Warren, but it’s too little, too late.

White Workers Done Voting for Candidates Who Hate Them

Dan McLaughlin, a figure mocked incessantly by the “dirtbag left,” has gotten his revenge by penning an autopsy focused on the exodus by white workers from the Bernie voting bloc and how it cost him important victories in round 2. It hurts, because deep down inside the Bernie Bros know its true, but are too afraid of getting MeTooed or accused of racism by the anarchists, radlibs and Jewish digital media journalists they’ve allowed into their tent.

Bernie Sanders has, since losing to Hillary Clinton in 2016, condemned his own “Bernie Bros” (a racist term invented by the Jew Robinson Meyer specifically aimed at his white and male supporters) and took the low-hanging fruit of racially demonizing white people, less than the other candidates, but just enough to matter.

As with Jeremy Corbyn’s relationship with Ash Sarkar, the Bernie campaign’s embrace of cartoonish anti-white demagogues like AOC or Wall Street lawyer Sara Rao got a logical reaction: if you hate white people, even whites who agree with your economic platform won’t vote for you.

Corbyn was able to corral some wealthy urban white women with his hamfisted anti-white identitarian appeals, but Bernie didn’t even do that. The true “woke” candidate was Warren, and she got the affluent feminist nutcase vote.

Last but not least, Bernie Sanders has paid lip service to hoaxes like Russiagate. He has shown a degree of fear when it comes to pushing back against the bullshit narratives “ex”-CIA contributors feed soccer moms on MSNBC, and the weapon he refused to neutralize ala Trump was then used to besmirch his reputation.

All in all, Bernie’s plan to release criminals from prison, open borders + free health care and college for illegals, and other liberal maximalist aims made him indistinguishable from a neo-liberal, or even a libertarian, in ends even if not always in means.

At the end of the day, the electoral left has failed to capitalize on rising anti-capitalist and anti-elite sentiment because cultural liberalism (DSA and the Democrats) is just as closely associated with said elites as economic liberalism (GOP).

This time around, white workers perceived Bernie Sanders, his entourage, and the Democrats as enemies of their racial and class interests, and reminded Bernie 2020 who the majority still is in this country.

The left has been thrown out of power and made electorally irrelevant up and down in their historic stranglehold of Europe (except in cases where they take up the anti-immigration cause, like Denmark) and now in America.

We are living in a historic moment. We must reject conservatism and the Hillary Clinton communists to combine nationalism with socialism, as has always been the true heritage of white populism. It’s time to finally give the people what they are clamoring for: a full frontal confrontation with capital and the globalism it has imposed against popular will.

(Republished from National Justice by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Tusk says:

    Bernie never stood up for himself. It’s hard to see how he would ever accomplish anything when he’s getting hijacked left right and center on his own platform. If he can’t even put forward a message that he wants, how the hell is he ever going to accomplish any programs that he wants?

  2. nickels says:

    Bernie: the revolutionary who supported every divide and conquer policy of the oligarchs from lgbt to black lives fatter.
    What a phony.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Getaclue
  3. Bernie needed to shout, and repeatedly, that he is not a socialist, but a social-democrat. It’s a huge difference.

    He needed to emphasize his commonalities with past politicians like FDR and Truman and even Eisenhower who wanted medicare for all.

    • Disagree: Corrupt
  4. Almost as if Bernie was only in it to distract and disrupt the Democrat base.

    Maybe Milwaukee could see a Milwaukee Seven event where the denied base could vent their rage. Seems like Antifa should be all over the fascists in the DNC.

    HRC was the central committee’s choice in 2016 and in 2020 it’s going to be Biden.

    Suppose the two parties are just two faces of a single party, the corporate war party, then 2000 was the R face’s turn, in 2008, it was the D face’s turn, and 2016 was back to the R face. The D face will again get it’s turn in 2024. Biden is just a placeholder on the ballot.

  5. “how Bernie… chased White workers away”

    There are still White workers?

    The National Council of Fellow Americans must be getting awfully lazy. White workers should have been over and done with like 18 months ago. Somebody check the schedule, and meantime get Rosenbaum in here to explain this. We’re gonna need… oh, I don’t know, some sort of fake crisis to start a fake depression to nudge the rest of those pesky peckerwoods off the cliff.

    • Agree: Alden
  6. If Sanders wanted to win, which I doubt, he would have run on his 2015 anti-open borders theme and anti-empire theme that he now avoids. This would have enraged the corporate democrats but attract most democrats and most independents. But he got beat up by his Senate buddies so continued to his role to prevent progressives from moving the Green Party. Watch this brilliant 2015 interview where Sanders speaks sanely about the immigration problem.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @Kronos
  7. It was really sad to see all these beautiful soul beatifully intensioned Americans throw their pearls at the swinish sheepdog. If I read Bernie correctly he is a classic virtue-signaling opportunistic psychopath, a complete psy-op. Academia is full of these cannabalistic fish, swimming together with a sizable (dwindling) cohort of well-meaning people. Perhaps I’m being a bit harsh on old Bernie, and he really is just a harmless and fun-loving octogenarian, a typical risk-and-conflict averse Jewish idealist, in which case he’s just an old coward, and not a socio-or-psychopath. Cowardice is no excuse though, and he is definitely a sheepdog. Those beautiful souls yearn for a champion, while they simultaneously shoot them down from their own midst via the ubiquitous (especially in academia) ritual of the castration of intellectual alpha males.

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  8. Sure. Whatever. Striker is part of the TRS Corona doomsday cult and I can’t really take anything he’s got to say with any seriousness. Maybe one day his opinions become relevant again. Jury is out for now.

  9. Bernie Sanders had as much chance of succeeding on his quixote quest as Ron Paul did in 2012. None. In December the Lexington column in the Economist described a Sanders nomination as an impossibility.

    When there was a race and people were voting he had massive lead. The Texans also had a massive lead on the Chiefs in their playoff game.

    What the hell happened to Tulsi Gabbard? Did she get a new mind control cassette or something?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Ko
  10. Right. The Democrats actually want a guy who loves to put his hands and young girls and acts like he has Alzheimers vs. a shabbos goy who sends a huge amount of hospital equipment to his overlord Israel because, after all, gentiles were only made to serve “the Chosen” (by the anti-Christ). Is the US cursed by God or what (or is Israel even more cursed by God? Heck they couldn’t even beat Hezbollah in 2006!)?

  11. Bernie and Corbyn, if their political careers were not so long and consistent, could almost be seen as plants to cripple the left that represents the worker for a decade. But they were more like actual plants than spies.

    What a coward! He didn’t provide lip service to Russia gate, he plainly pleaded guilty to it, at a debate!! He was an appeaser, and not the Hitler type (cause there was injustice towards Germany from the rest of Europe that needed appeasing), but an appeaser of rapists (Biden) and murderers (Clinton).

    All’s I gotta say is tune into Jimmy Dore on the youtubes when he covers this – it should be funny, even if tragic!

    • Replies: @Alden
  12. Miro23 says:
    @Tusk

    Bernie never stood up for himself. It’s hard to see how he would ever accomplish anything when he’s getting hijacked left right and center on his own platform.

    It’s a feature of US politics that the NWO establishment can successfully stamp out any organized move for reform – wherever it comes from. They’ve been doing it for years, and have plenty of experience + they own the media (can form the narrative).

    The implication is a continued downward path for US economic and social wellbeing – which could easily tip into violence – internal or external (with the external being a war).

    Collapsed societies don’t usually last all that long – particularly ones with Imperial overreach.

  13. Bernie’s weak. I actually would have voted for him in 2016, had he won the nomination. But when he got up there at the convention and sheepishly endorsed the very woman who had just defrauded him in the primaries, I lost all respect for him whatsoever. If Bernie won’t even fight for himself, why would he fight for us?

    Make mine Trump!

  14. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    Good analysis and breakdown of the racial/class dynamics against Bernie especially the upper middle class suburban bourgeois terrified of an armed citizenry. Totally spot on.

    Bernie is a good man but senators have never made good presidents and historically have never won either. The skillset of a senator just doesn’t translate into presidential politics and the executive branch. Bernie however demonstrated he was a cuck when he allowed Black Lives Matter to take over one of his rallies back in 2015. If he couldn’t or wouldn’t stand up to people disrupting his own event and disrespecting him as well as his supporters he wouldn’t stand up for anything else either. People must stop supporting controlled opposition but even leftists now realize weakness is a character flaw.

    Real nationalists/populists have always supported Donald Trump. He’s a fighter and is the first good American president of the 21st century. Trump is more like Vladimir Lenin than Bernie ever will be. Even Trotsky was no pushover but Bernie has demonstrated impotence and failure repeatedly. However the real problem is the fact so called “authoritarian states” like Russia/China serve their citizens well unlike Uncle Samantha.

    https://eradica.wordpress.com/2014/05/06/old-and-new-gods/

  15. “All in all, Bernie’s plan to release criminals from prison, open borders + free health care and college for illegals, and other liberal maximalist aims made him indistinguishable from a neo-liberal, or even a libertarian.”

    Anyone who would make such a statement wouldn’t know a libertarian if one crawled up his leg and bit him on the dick.

    • LOL: Cowboy
  16. @Carlton Meyer

    I suspect that Bernie runs in order to get a payoff in return for his withdrawal. He probably just got the final payoff of his career as well.

  17. JackOH says:

    Eric, thanks.

    Bernie, and before him Pat Buchanan, maybe a handful of others, like Perot and Huey Long, all offered imperfect, partial glimpses of what a government of American national solidarity might be. A government that actually gave a damn about our common American-ness.

    Corporate America views the United States as a glorified day labor agency, and works to achieve the goal of turning pretty much everyone into a frightened, gig-laboring precariat.

    Example: in Ohio, there are plenty of plausible anecdotes that have the New Deal-era unemployment compensation program undermined by Corporate America massively challenging on the flimsiest grounds workers’ applications for unemployment comp. If my memory’s okay, the unemployed worker was presumptively regarded as eligible for unemployment comp unless the employer proved the worker incompetent, criminal, etc. Somehow, the state’s unemployment comp people have, in the cases I’ve heard of, simply accepted the employer’s assertions that the unemployed person is not qualified for unemployment. The worker is forced to demonstrate that he is in fact eligible for unemployment comp in adversarial proceedings that may last months.

    • Replies: @Montefrío
    , @Kim
  18. a_ says:

    I know nothing about the US pol. system, except what media transported to me. Looks for me as a 2 wing party of institutionalized corruption. Money counts, presidents do always the same and people vote against their interests.

    Media coverage is on election circus. An America got talent stupidity. None of the president did ever what he promised “read my lips, no new taxes”. There is absolutely no legally binding in this chatter but journallists think they are serious in writing on it.

    Did US-Americans really believe they select the best people in an quiz show styled TV dramolett?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  19. sally says:
    @Tusk

    The (masses) clouds gathered into powerful (voting groups) thunderstorms; @ downpour; the water was bottled and sold to the dissenters, the joint locked down with Covid 19, mind control and crowd control 5g weaponry covered for the treasury raid, as $20 trillion was transferred from the have-nots to the haves.

    Those identified to the thunderstorms are waiting for their Genocide. but a person on another website proposed an answer.. something quite different.. i put it here to be thought about.. as follows:

    [MORE]

    After my all male high school elected Sue Grommit Home Coming Queen my senior year,.. several hopeful females committed suicide. The media clamoured to interview this charming young person, but school officials could not locate this victorious person. Her campaign had no pictures, she never appeared in public, her name was unknown to the administration of the school yet .. How did that happen? I think it might have been a conspiracy, designed to embarrass the hated headmaster of the school, the board soon released the headmaster, and a new vote was taken two days before the home coming.

    The US Supreme court in all of its wisdom ruled corporations are citizens of the USA, so does that make it possible for Americans to find a corporation that meets Article II, Section 1, paragraph [5] of the USA, it reads “No person except a natural born citizen [all corporations are natural born?], .. shall be eligible for the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five years, and has been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

    So what is to stop the voting Americans who are eligible to vote in elections held by the United States of America from electing, by write-in, a corporation that meets the above definition? Any thirty five year or older USA corporation, seems likely to qualify at least as far as i understand the courts decision..

    So my question: if Americans governed by the USA were to acquire a 35 year old domestic corporation and rename it for one of the <=Presidents of the United States in Congress Assembled March 1, 1781 to March 3, 1789 data from https://www.johnhanson.net/ which website has many other facts.
    Samuel Huntington March 1, 1781 to July 6, 1781
    Samuel Johnston July 9, 1781 to Declined Office
    Thomas McKean July 10, 1781 to November 4, 1781
    John Hanson November 5, 1781 to November 3, 1782
    Elias Boudinot November 4, 1782 to November 2, 1783
    Thomas Mifflin November 3, 1783 to June 3, 1784
    Richard Henry Lee November 30, 1784 to November 22, 1785
    John Hancock November 23, 1785 to June 5, 1786
    Nathaniel Gorham June 6, 1786 to February 1, 1787
    Arthur St. Clair February 2, 1787 to January 21, 1788
    Cyrus Griffin January 22, 1788 to January 21, 1789

    and elect by write in ballet that corporation to be the President of the united States, <=does that mean each person in America, governed by the USA, could be a stockholder in the presidency of the USA?

    Could it be that by writing in the name of a corporation, whose shares are owned 1 voting share each, by every American governed by the USA, that the Article II person, under the constitution, would be the democracy the Oligarchs fear so much?

  20. GeeBee says:

    ‘We are living in a historic moment. We must reject conservatism and the Hillary Clinton communists to combine nationalism with socialism, as has always been the true heritage of white populism. It’s time to finally give the people what they are clamouring for: a full frontal confrontation with capital and the globalism it has imposed against popular will.’

    Said like a True Believer Julius! Honk Honk!!

  21. gotmituns says:

    This is where communism always end up.

    Checkist 1992 – Russian Film – eng sub (full) – YouTube

    http://www.youtube.com › watch

    Video for Checkist 1992 – Russian Film – eng sub (full) 1:25:14

    Feb 26, 2014 – Uploaded by I Stand With Christ
    Movie re-enacting Vladimir Lenin’s Cheka program that executed anyone who was suspected of being an …

  22. @Tusk

    If he can’t even put forward a message that he wants, how the hell is he ever going to accomplish any programs that he wants?

    Seems to me that he did his job perfectly. Both times.

    • Replies: @Flubber
  23. Anzig says:

    What do you get when you combine nationalism with socialism? Right. Nationalsocialism!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  24. Bernie looks like a nice guy.
    Nice guys tend to not do well in politics — especially when they are dealing with a mob of vicious bastards in their own party, let alone the opposition party.
    He needed to demonstrate (quite) a bit of “blood & steel” — because that’s what he would need (in spades) had he actually won the nomination / presidency.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
    , @Anon
  25. eah says:

    But but but what about the “Bernie bros”? — “LOL” – I guess most of them were college guys who had student loans they didn’t want to pay back (can’t say I blame them).

    And “regime opponents” are being persecuted under Trump as well; I think the author is aware of this — I don’t recall congressional hearings on White Nationalism under Obama — by the same author:

    Democrats and Republicans Agree: It’s Time to Throw White People In Gulags

  26. George says:
    @SaneClownPosse

    “Almost as if Bernie was only in it to distract and disrupt the Democrat base. ”

    Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders: Sheepdogging for Hillary and the Democrats in 2016 – Bruce A. Dixon 07 May 2015

    https://blackagendareport.com/bernie-sanders-sheepdog-4-hillary

    Also worth noting is Bernie 2020 has ‘Cash on hand of $18M
    https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/candidate?id=N00000528

    In fairness to Bernie he will probably use the $18M to further the cause.

  27. @animalogic

    Bernie looks like a nice guy.

    Surfing up the ladder by way of promising to fools the wealth of others… Yeah, helluva guy. A real zodiacal killer.

    • Agree: eah
    • Replies: @animalogic
  28. On the subject of Sleepy Joe planning to return to the policies of the Obama Regime, watch for his introduction of his new campaign theme, complete with blue MAMA hats: Make America Mediocre Again.

  29. It’s interesting that we’ve heard nothing of late from AOC on the Palestine question. I guess somebody told her who owns the Democratic Party (and the Republican Party as well, BTW).

  30. @JackOH

    Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan, the only two candidates for whom I ever campaigned, although I’d expatriated by the time Pat B ran. Yes, they each had national interest at heart and in mind and it’s a shame that citizens just didn’t jell with their respective platforms and candidacy. Corporate America is a soul-deadening subculture that has interests at odds with those of the disunited majority that needs to unite to put it and its minions in their rightful place.

  31. RVBlake says:

    For me the Essence of Bernie will forever be the image of him standing quietly at the side of a stage for which he had paid, looking meekly downcast with hands folded, while that gaggle of Negresses bleated into the microphone which they had torn from him.

  32. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anzig

    No, Anzig, you get socialism with heavily armed, digitally impregnable, inward facing borders. Eric Striker is not unlike Fauci et al in his sweeping totalitarian solution that ignores the very people that he wants to sustain and not eliminate as Gates provably does. Have a look at iceagefarmer’s recent short video posted on aangirfan this morning on what’s going on in agriculture. It’s as heartbreaking as it is sickening. Farming families will be utterly destroyed by the lockdown, as intended.

    For just one example not mentioned in the video, the beef pipeline in the US is about one week deep and relies on ultra precision ranching, packing, and distribution. Since the packers’ workers are not coming to work in large numbers (kids home, etc) they cannot process nearly as much. The backlog of unsold beef needs food which wasn’t planned for and the farmers go out of business as planned to consolidate Ag even further. Dairies are being told to dump their milk or sell off their cows now. The country’s largest meat packer, Tyson (owns Jones Sausage, Ball Park Franks, eg) is already combining pea meal with beef in a 50/50 mix, not to meet demand for this shit so much as to begin the elimination of meat protein from our diet because of its known influence on cognitive function. Gates et al really do want soya-brained, docile humans who are incapable of resisting their enslavement and can be managed like livestock.

    We talk about Gates and his ilk’s medico-technocrat apparatchiks like Fauci, Tedros, Birx et al intending as they do to have every person on the planet chipped and vaccinated, using sterilants and adjuvants that control populations and social behavior before surveillance is required. But, behind all that is their program to completely take over food production by genetically capturing gene sequences that are the product of nature and splicing them into patentable progeny that can be used to confiscate the farms of resistors, for starters. Seed producers are in the cross hairs such that only GMO’s developed for resistance to patented pesticides become available in the Gates Foundation’s human laboratory the rest of us call Africa. Gates, after all, is first and foremost a eugenicist as his father before him was. Most of us know all this, but we need to remain focused on the parallel scheme to control through food and water as much as through surveillance 24/7, chipping, and toxic chemicals coursing through our bodies via mandatory vaccination.

    Given that the lockdown is already provably a Plannedemic or Plandemic—a simulation-gone-live and conspiracy-in-fact and not mere theory—, and given there are now warnings of 2nd and 3rd wave mutations of the sort indicative of engineering, the probability that the virus itself was initially engineered and released goes up dramatically. Or at least it should unless logic and reasoning are taken today as signs of mental illness or bad faith in the face of nonstop bullshit from the MSM.

    • Thanks: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @WorkingClass
    , @S
  33. Cowboy says:

    Eric you and Bernie both got what you wanted and more: Totalitarianism!
    Fuqstick to the left of me and fuqsticks to the right

    • Replies: @Parbes
  34. M.Anthony says:

    Bernie the two-time stalking horse.

    His job is done here folks.

  35. Tom Verso says:

    Is Bernie Blackmail-able?

    There has been voluminous commentary/analysis since 2016 down to the present about ‘Why Bernie won’t fight against the Democratic Party elite, when he clearly has a mass popular movement on his side?” Even why he won’t at least threaten if not actually make a third party run?

    At one extreme of the explanatory spectrum, there is the one I enjoy hearing: the nice guy theory. He is such a nice guy and is not personally disposed to confront friends like Hillary, Joe, Elizabeth, etc. For example, Matt Taibbi of the Rolling Stone publication runs this line on his podcast ‘Useful Idiots’.

    Then there is the more social scientific-esque policy conflicted theory, such as the present article: He is conflicted on left/right social issues.

    There are many more ‘psychological’ explanatory theories on the net.

    One that I have not seen; call me an ‘Alex Jones conspiracy nut’ if you will, but I wonder if the ‘powers that be’ have some blackmail material on Bernie and tell him when to cut short his campaign. They use him to bring in the young leftist to the party and away from the Republicans, and then drop him when it comes to naming the candidate.

    For example, blackmail-able events that he may have been involved in during the extreme de facto Communist period of his youth. Think Jane Fond pictured on an anti-aircraft gun in North Viet Nam.

    No doubt the FBI/CIA had ‘eyes on him’ and his wife during the period when he went to the Soviet Union and Cuba.

    The great mystery to my mind is why there has not been massive Jewish financial, media and political power in support of what could be a Jewish President of the United States? I would be interested in some non-psychological theory of that fact.

    These pages are filled with articles about Jewish power and influence in various parts of the government. Surely, a Jewish President would be the Jewish equivalent of the ‘Holy Grail’ of American (Western Civilization) Jewish power.

    Why are they (Jewish elite) reluctant to reach for it?

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @Hibernian
    , @Anon
  36. It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that Warren got “the affluent feminist nutcase vote” because not unlike the modern “Pocahontas”, the affluent feminist class is made up of fraudsters like Gloria “CIA” Steinem and her latest avatar AOC. Good riddance!

  37. Did Striker really expect anything else? Never mind, I know the answer.

  38. @schnellandine

    Ok, I’ll ignore the fact that you missed the whole point of my comment…& I’ll take you the way I find you.
    So — either you are part of the “wealthy” or you are not. If yes, then, wow what a surprise. If no, then …what the hell are you ? Somekind of dog for your “betters” ? If thats your soul, then I pity you.

  39. @Tusk

    He’s controlled opposition on the left, like Trump is on the right. It’s pretty obvious.

    • Agree: Wielgus, Tusk
    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    , @Wally
  40. Looks like Dems are stuck with a demented nominee. Senile Biden is a perfect fit for the senile party.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Tool Book and Rifle
  41. @SaneClownPosse

    HRC was the central committee’s choice in 2016 and in 2020 it’s going to be Biden.

    I predict Biden will withdraw, for medical reasons, HRC will “volunteer” to step up, there will be a mail in vote, with only one name on the ticket, to confirm her candidacy. Her running mate will be Obumboy.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  42. @Anonymous

    No, Anzig, you get socialism with heavily armed, digitally impregnable, inward facing borders.

    Other than “digitally impregnable”, which didn’t exist, you are describing the communist USSR, not socialism. In the USSA, the commune is defined differently than in the USSR. Either way, it’s made up of elites, and to borrow a phrase from George Carlin, “You ain’t in it”.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  43. This time around, white workers perceived Bernie Sanders, his entourage, and the Democrats as enemies of their racial and class interests, and reminded Bernie 2020 who the majority still is in this country.

    Twitter is not the electorate. Who knew?

    If Bernie was a Socialist he would be talking about organizing and solidarity. He would not be running against his largest potential base of support. The white portion of the working class. AOC’s platform, anti white and anti Middle America, will never win a national election. The woke have made considerable progress in preventing white people from speaking. If they would rule they must prevent white people from voting.

  44. @Tom Verso

    – It would make their rule obvious … can´t have that. Do not become a too-easy target.
    Liebknecht, Luxemburg (who wasn´t half stupid), Jogisches, Eisner, Kùn, Rákosi and all the rest were inoculations with adjuvants.

    – They have learned from Bruno Kreisky (despite his bona-fide antifa cred) who took socialism seriously and made amends with the PLO; a Jewish frontpuppet is not as easily cowed by calling it anti-semitic and therefore much more dangerous to them, ergo (at least in principle) more desirable to everybody else.

    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  45. Agent76 says:

    Mar 12, 2020 Joe Biden urges unity while insulting Americans

    Joe Biden appeared to insult Americans, while claiming he enjoys broad support among voters.

    Mar 7, 2020 Joe Biden’s ‘confused crazy rants’ should have discounted him years ago

    Ms Panahi said it’s surprising the candidate, who is “so confused that he has trouble remembering where he is and why he’s there,” has not been discounted.

  46. @Beefcake the Mighty

    actually, it’s not. candidate trump was the opposite of controlled. like the black lives matters protestors who stole his mic back in 2016, maybe Bernie is missing just enough backbone to see his project entirely through. he wouldn’t be the first nor the last to have that issue.

  47. A marriage of key aspects of the US Constitution with the ideas of National Socialism is THE solution to this current madness brought to the world by these parasitical, atheistic, marxist/communist Talmudic viruses and their sockpuppet sewer rats that currently are destroying civilization, freedom, environment and humanity.

    SOCIAL NATIONALISM

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  48. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Sanders always was a worthless armchair socialist, just a theorist with no accomplishments outside of being in politics. He’s flip-flopped all over the place and is just an opportunist making a living working his part of the political spectrum, hopeful idealists who will be sold out. If he had any real core values he wouldn’t have been able to implement any of it because he’s weak and ineffective. Not much to pick from on the Dem side whose champion is Biden, a stupid and dangerously incompetent man who is slipping into dementia before our eyes. There is something inherently wrong with a system that throws up such a motley and inferior crew of wannabe ‘leaders’.

    • Replies: @Ko
  49. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Q: Who do you prefer over Trump & why?

    A: Silence.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  50. @Anonymous

    Gates et al really do want soya-brained, docile humans who are incapable of resisting their enslavement and can be managed like livestock.

    True. But Gates et al will not rule the world until they find a solution to China and Russia. And they rely on the power of King Dollar who is currently on a ventilator. The cashless society is an impossible dream like the free market utopia or the workers paradise.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  51. There is something inherently wrong with a system that throws up such a motley and inferior crew of wannabe ‘leaders’.

    This is exactly what I concluded. The libs control the schools and yet this is the best they can come up with? Shouldn’t there be a long line of top pedigree grads that know every liberal talking point?

    What I think happens is that because liberalism requires so much dishonesty it only encourages the amoral (Biden) or the hopelessly naive (Bernie). Anyone with a backbone that shows true leadership skills gets filtered out. This is especially true for White men since they are treated with disdain and must constantly show they are submissive to the cause. So the best candidates avoid politics entirely.

    Not that I think running for the other side is any better. If you don’t bow to the market or support tax cuts for the wealthy you get Club for Greed types coming after you. Or if you vote the wrong way on something like healthcare you make enemies within the party.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  52. Parbes says:
    @Cowboy

    Shuddup you vile moron. Keyboard cowboy.

  53. Turk 152 says:

    This is just a replay of Obama’s 2008 glaring spinelessness when confronting very powerful interests. Sarah Palin’s immortal words, “How’s that Hopey, Changey Stuff?” Except that Obama was elected and inevitably disappointed, while the voters saw through Sanders early and didn’t have the tolerance for another fraud in office.

    The Democrat party is a hopelessly corrupt machine, which brought us Johnson, Truman, Obama, the Clintons run by the CIA and Wall Street. It lets the radicals loose once in a while when their brand becomes too tarnished and it becomes apparent to all what they are.

    Sanders ran on policies of redistribution of wealth, so our oligarchs never even bothered to take him seriously. Once he got their attention and appeared viable, they immediately dismantled him in record time. Did all the Democrat candidates have the same epiphany and just decide one weekend before Super Tuesday, to all drop out at the same time?

  54. @SaneClownPosse

    Glad that someone else figured it out…our only choice is to vote for the Communist (Democrat) Party or the Fascist Nazi (Republican) Party. Both major parties are Totalitarian and care nothing for anyone, but themselves and their super-rich puppet masters, like Bloomberg. Their goal is to go back to the two class system, i.e., the super rich and the dirt poor. An educated middle class, that only existed in the West for the past 110 years, is no longer necessary, since IA and robotics can do almost any job better than a human. Society only needs a few STEM people to keep furthering technology…and increasing profits!

  55. Glad that someone else figured it out…our only choice is to vote for the Communist (Democrat) Party or the Fascist Nazi (Republican) Party. Both major parties are Totalitarian and care nothing for anyone, but themselves and their super-rich puppet masters, like Bloomberg. Their goal is to go back to the two class system, i.e., the super rich and the dirt poor. An educated middle class, that only existed in the West for the past 110 years, is no longer necessary, since IA and robotics can do almost any job better than a human. Society only needs a few STEM people to keep furthering technology…and increasing profits!

    • Replies: @Wally
  56. Hibernian says:
    @Tom Verso

    Surely, a Jewish President would be the Jewish equivalent of the ‘Holy Grail’ of American (Western Civilization) Jewish power.

    Seinfeld in 2024.

  57. Alfa158 says:
    @Morton's toes

    Speculation, either A: She has realized her politics can’t win in the Democratic Party under the current regime. The MAGA insurgency will be crushed this November and it will be business as usual on the R side, so no refuge there either.
    or B: She is hoping to rebuild some sort of role in politics, and so she has knuckled under and endorsed Slow Joe in the hope she can live to fight another day.
    I lean towards B. I think she has the talent to make a comeback, maybe in a decade or so when the rot has further weakened the System. The Covid Crisis has shown it may not be as robust as it long appeared to be.

  58. Ko says:

    Bernie, was, is, and always will be a Communist. As such, he is a massive fraud and a useless pussy. He has no core principals, otherwise, he would have run as an independent in 2016 rather than kissing up to the miserable heretic of lifeblood succulence, HRC.

    What will Bernie do with his delegates? He’s a buffoon, and that’s then end of his lackluster career.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  59. Tom Verso says:
    @nokangaroos

    Thank you

    That is an interesting non-psychological hypothesis. While ‘don’t make power obvious’ has been a component of historic Jewish power (i.e. front off a whipped non-Jew), I think that the power of, what I call, ‘The Jewish Nation’ is such now that they are not so concern about flaunting their power.

    Indeed, they are proud and braggadocio about their power. There are articles about Jewish power in Hollywood written by Jews (see Joel Stein, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html); Alan Dershowitz has given speeches at Jewish conferences about being in his words ‘deserving of their power’ (see: https://mondoweiss.net/2017/05/influence-dershowitz-scarsdale/).

    But, again I think that passing on a Jewish President is an interesting political curiosity.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  60. Ko says:
    @anonymous

    Yeah, his bullshit was chicken feed for the elitist leftists who summered in Vermont, or for those who cashed in their chips and moved there and raised property values.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  61. Ko says:
    @Morton's toes

    By throwing down for Biden she got herself a seat at the Thanksgiving Day kiddie table in the hallway.

  62. @anon8383892

    Bernie is definitely a sheepdog Judas goat.

  63. Fug says:

    Just another fraudulent charlatan, who fooled many imbeciles with his deception. Bernie ‘The Socialist’ Sanders, In the Neo-liberal Democratic Party! So we have Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard backing the corrupt and demented Joe Biden. I really hope the Sanders and Gabbard supporters feel really Stupid, because they were deceived and will be fooled again. In four years time from now they will be swindled yet again. Maybe this is just the curse, imbeciles have to bear. The US Presidential Elections are analogous to WWE Professional wrestling or a Christmas Pantomime. The vast majority of the US Electorate, have not got the intelligence to decipher this, and they get exactly what they deserve every four years.

  64. @Curmudgeon

    Constitutionally — if we are still pretending to follow a few parts of the constitution — Barrack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve a full term and so cannot run as prez or Veep.

    Nor would they be such fools to nominate Clinton if they actually want to beat trump (also a dubious proposition).

    If the Dems actually want to win and Biden withdraws, they could go with a pretend-moderate heterosexual white guy for president and a woman for Veep.

    The female Veep candidate could be Michelle Obama, to pump up the african turnout. Or it could be a white woman who holds statewide office in a larger swing State that Trump can ill afford to lose: Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan.

    Actually, i think the Dems could win if they nominate SANDERS for Prez and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer for VP. But I realize the DNC and their banker/plutocrat donors don’t want to take the risk that Sanders would sincerely try to go after a real chunk of their ill-gotten wealth.

  65. @WorkingClass

    Great comment all the way around. Both libertarianism and communism are unworkable, heartless extremes that must be avoided.

  66. Anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:

    White Workers Done Voting for Candidates Who Hate Them

    That’s a great chapter title. Finally, our race is getting in touch with our own tribal instincts and realising that everyone else was on that page all along.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  67. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon

    By digitally impregnable I simply meant foreign exchange controls punishing anyone looking to get the hell out of here.

  68. @Tom Verso

    May be the thinking or superstition is that once it is achieved it could be all downhill from there on, so why tempt fate … they are cabalistic!

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  69. @SaneClownPosse

    Bernie had zero chance. When it appeared that he was the front runner. DNC immediately forced all others to close their campaigns to consolidate the old people vote for zombiden.

    That was how Bernie got bamboozled again in 2020. At least this was done out in the open. Not like 2016 where DNC simply gave it to killary.

    Trump gets 4 more years. Simple as that. All as planned.

  70. Fatidicus says:
    @Just another serf

    Go listen to Bill Mitchell dummy.

    • Replies: @Just another serf
  71. @Ko

    Not really. Most of his supporters are lower-income and lower middle-income whites and, recently, Hispanics. These are usually people working retail, customer service, menial labor, and clerical jobs, plus people patching together part-time and gig jobs.

    Many of Sanders’ supporters have jobs that offer no healthcare benefits, or almost useless bare-bones benefits. Most have jobs that do not offer pensions or enough income to save meaningfully for a house. Forget about investing for retirement. They are not in the market for a Summer home in Vermont or anywhere else, notwithstanding smug stereotypes.

    There are simply very, very few people with summer homes or second homes in Vermont, or all of New England, compared to the millions of Sanders supporters out there.

    More decent, reasonably industrious Americans are perpetually struggling than we want to admit. I can’t blame them for concluding that the system is stacked against them. As someone with a middle to upper-middle-class household income, the system is not even set up to help OUR family, either.

    By the way, while a shrill Soviet-loving unAmerican alien like Sanders should not be the spokesman for the movement, they have a point. Sanders supporters aren’t wrong to conclude this:

    We have spent the last six decades printing, borrowing, and taxing trillions for war, bank bailouts, and corporate bailouts, as well as for exorbitant doctor salaries, massively marked-up pharmaceutical and medical devices largely paid by Medicare and Medicaid (and by high employer-paid premiums that divert money from our salaries). Our rulers have done this at an ever more furious pace over the last three decades in particular.

    We could spend those trillions on universal medical insurance and Universal basic income instead. It would be more fair, and it would lead to a less fearful, more cohesive, more stable society — and an economy where the mass of the American people have real buying power and real bargaining power against corporate employers.

    Such a society could withstand a pandemic, or other major economic shock, far better than we are.

    • Agree: BannedHipster
  72. I love the picture that leads this off. I love how people in front of crowds can wave at people that they can’t see. Rock stars, Hollywood types, etcetera are included in this group. Emblematic. But the crowds eat it up. Our downfall.

  73. @Really No Shit

    Organized Jewry has never been shy about flouting their power, that’s why they’ve eventually gotten into trouble in so many countries. Sanders is useless from a White standpoint, but he would probably make some attempt at being magnanimous, so he’s far less reliable than either a SJW/colored or white cuck shabbos goy. Probably the high finance types don’t like his overt leftism either.

  74. Wally says:
    @Not-Marxist

    Except the ‘Nazis’ did not do what is alleged while the Communists did do what is alleged.

    Try again.

  75. Bernie Sander is a fraud, and he always has been a fraud.

    Just look at this record: 100% in support of giving the tax money of American workers to his fellow Jews is Israel. 100% support of Israeli genocide of Palestinians – going so far as to justify their attacks on civilians and having armed guards throw out Palestinian supporters at his town halls. Virtually a 100% record of voting for every war Israel wanted.

    Bernie Sanders, a New Yorker, was set up in tiny Vermont with outside Jewish money to be a reliable Senate vote for AIPAC. To maintain the position, he mouths various “progressive” platitudes. Since he’s old, he never quite learned to mouth the new “woke” platitudes of browns and transgenders, stuck as he was in “Civil Rights” and the communism of the 1960s.

    Just like his one time partner, Noam Chomsky, Bernie Sanders is a Zionist shill LARPing as a “left winger.”

    • Agree: the grand wazoo
  76. @Wally

    One correction: non-senile Trump is a lot better than senile Biden not because Trump is so good, but because Biden is so much worse.

  77. S says:
    @Anonymous

    Gates et al really do want soya-brained, docile humans who are incapable of resisting their enslavement and can be managed like livestock.

    That’s almost verbatim the terminology used in an 1851 London Times editorial in a description of the desired characteristics of the replacement population (consisting of immigrants and a resulting ‘mixed’ population) intended for mid-19th century Ireland.

    [MORE]

    Ireland at the time of this editorial looked ‘done for’, having in the roughly previous five years lost about 25 percent of its population (ie two million) due to a combination of famine and economic predation

    The specific occasion the editorial speaks of was the Massachusett’s textile factory magnate (and also US ambassador to the UK) Abbott Lawrence and his tour of Ireland. Very ‘progressively’ the ‘mixing’ away of race and ethnicity is lauded due to the enmasse predation of the Irish people as wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) by the United States, and by manufacturers such as what Lawrence represented.

    With due respect, the replacement ‘more mixed’ immigrant population advocated for Ireland, which the editorial describes in slave terms, is a reference to the historic ‘Plantation’, ie the people of Northern Ireland today. This displays what is in reality an utter contempt for ‘immigrants’, whom powerful elements amongst the elites and their hangers on see as their slaves…and indeed as wage slaves (ie ‘cheap labor’) that is the role of the ‘immigrant’ in the modern liberal/progressive ‘multi-cultural’ society.


    Galway, Ireland – 1902

    ‘known no more’

    London Times (Sept 30, 1851) – The American Minister in Ireland

    “The prosperity and happiness he [Lawrence] speaks of may some day reign over that beautiful island. It’s fertile soil, its water-power, its minerals, and other materials for the wants and luxuries of man, may one day be developed; but all apearances are against the belief that this will ever happen in the days of the Celt.

    That tribe will soon fulfill the great law of Providence which seems to enjoin and reward the union of races. It [the Irish people] will mix with the Anglo-American, and be known no more as a jealous and separate people. Its present place will be occupied by the more mixed, more docile, and more serviceable race, which has long borne the yoke of sturdy industry in this island, which can submit to a master and obey the law…”

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/chad-breeders/#comment-3726044

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  78. Hacienda says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Who would you vote for? Trump vs Secretariat (were he still alive, God bless him).

    I’m being serious.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  79. @a_

    People don’t really vote against their interests. That is a very common criticism by voters who don’t like what other voters think or want. Every American I know votes his/her interest to the extent that he/she can. But his/her options are very limited.

  80. It must be very hard for anyone to be honest and moral if seeking an elected position. AIPAC and their ilk have numerous ways to sidetrack any and all who try. They infiltrate, bribe, blackmail, extort, move money around like it 3 card monty, and if all that fails then you get a blackened left eye or worse.
    There’s only 1 solution to this. Anyway:

    Fear God and the stupidity of the populace”. Ezra Pound (Canto74).

  81. Ohhh good grief and good greif . . .

    Sen sanders choice to press the socialism message in the manner he did was his choice. Socialism as a policy was his choice period. He did this despite being well aware that the country at its core simply did not have a taste for the construct. He supported open borders long before the agendized individual came to the fore.

    I am an avowd capitalist — old old old old school form as close to the original construction as possible.

    However, Sen Sanders played a bad hand worse. Instead of opening he should hae closed and made socialism relevent to the current state of affairs, even before the virus . . . he could have made a very rich case for socialism, if not now for the very near future.

    The virus was a gosend he simply never dared apply.

    But the issue at its core was where socialism rests in the minds of US citizens, not immigrants newly arrived, or illegal immigrants rich or poor, but US citizens and that would mean closing doors not opening them. Socialism as a boderless wasteland is even harder to sell than socialism good for US.

    As a conservative,

    I find it a strange twist that nothing, and it seems nothing done by anyone white is simply the result of their choices, despite being in the dominant status socially, politically militarily and economically. Despite the truth finally coming to the fore, even I acknowledge there were choices I could have made to decrease tensions, despite not having broken a single law.

    Sen Sanders should own his choices.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  82. @Fatidicus

    It’s enlightening that, as of today, in 33% of your posts you call another commenter “dummy”. I’m inclined to call you a stonk. But I’ll refrain.

  83. @Just another serf

    Your notion of the doomsday Corona cult, as you call it, might need a bit of a rethink. In NY state people are dying of the virus, as of yesterday, at 28 per 100,000 people. In California, people were dying at the rate of 1 per 100,000.

    Now depending on where you live and how you are affected, the lockdowns are highly warranted or highly not warranted.

    And even in states where the death rate is very low, it is reasonable to assume that some people in those states still do not want to compete with NY for death rate, and may think the best course is to do whatever it takes not to be like NY.

    • Replies: @Just another serf
  84. @Hacienda

    I live in TN, so I don’t need to vote. If the Republican party nominates a horse, good God-fearing church-going people of TN would vote for a horse.

    • LOL: Hacienda
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @A123
  85. The rot goes deeper than just Bernie’s campaign. I’ve been following supposedly “radical left” media in the wake of the massive corporate bailout. Even self-styled “radicals” like Democracy Now are now praising the giveaway.

    There are very, very few journalists left who are willing to call out the corruption. Max Blumenthal is one. Jimmy Dore is a comedian but he still has the correct analysis.

    Jacobin, another faux radical publication, has been a reliable regime-change cheerleader on cue with the MSM in every imperial campaign overseas, including Syria, for the last few years. The complete and utter collapse of the American left over the past 15-20 years is a mystery to me.

    This of course opens up huge space for ambitious people.

    • Replies: @BannedHipster
  86. MarkinLA says:

    What’s all this stuff about Bernie being a failure? How much money does he have now that he can raid once he announces his retirement? He has the perfect excuse for not spending it on the Democrats, he was screwed and he never was a Democrat. He was always an Independent.

    Bernie Madoff only wishes he could pull off a con like Sanders.

    • Agree: Wally
  87. Wally says:
    @AnonFromTN

    – You weaseled my question, which was:

    “Who do you prefer over Trump & why?”

    – I did not mention Biden, who nonetheless is a moron and a Bolshevik Bernie sympathizer:

    Since When Is Joe Biden a ‘Moderate’?: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/paul-gottfried/since-when-is-joe-biden-a-moderate/

    Biden or no Biden, Trump is better than all the alternatives, as I’ve said all along.

    Now, I ask you: Who do you prefer over Trump & why? No more strawmen & weaseling.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Spanky
  88. @Thulean Friend

    See what Susan Lindauer has to say about Amy Goodman of Democracy Now.

    Lindauer’s story would have been dynamite for an outfit like Democracy Now. A long time peace activist, she wrote letters to Congress to try to stop the September 11th attacks, and was the first non-Muslim to be charged under the PATRIOT Act.

    While Lindauer was locked up by George W. Bush in a military prison, her husband was contacting every media outlet he could to get her story told. The story was even featured in the Wall Street Journal …

    … but Amy Goodman wouldn’t touch it. She told Lindauer’s husband the Democracy Now audience “just wouldn’t be interested.”

    In hindsight, it’s very, very obvious why.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Goodman#Personal_life

  89. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @S

    Thank you! They must be a durable people considering they’ve achieved a disproportionately large contribution to science, law, architecture, literature, music, and so on despite being portrayed almost invariably by the Jews of Hollywood as blockheaded drunks and fools. Which raises the question why it is that Jews apparently hate the Irish more than they hate the Germans and Russians—if that’s possible. Can you offer any guidance? My offhand guess is that Jewish hatred is proportionate to the beauty of the women and capability of the hated group’s men and derives from the scourge of resentment they blubber on about being the cause of antiSemitism, as if anyone wants to be like them.

    • Replies: @S
  90. carlos217 says:

    I think its rather obvious Hillary is coming back, Biden will clear the way for her to do so as he`s visibly senile and knows he cant win, also explains why Obama won’t endorse him as Trump said last night.

    Its all a fix for Clinton

    God help us all if she wins.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
    , @Dube
  91. @AnonFromTN

    Perhaps you should move somewhere more suitable to your sensibilities. I’m sure real Tennesseans are tired of carpetbagging douche bags like you moving to their states and turning them blue.

    Or, you could always go back to China or whatever oriental dump you originate from.

    • Agree: Tool Book and Rifle
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  92. Mefobills says:
    @SocialNationalist-88SS

    A marriage of key aspects of the US Constitution

    If you compare NSDAP national socialist economy to American System, there is a lot of correlation and shared DNA.

    Frederick List took the American System to Kaiser’s Germany, and NSDAP resurrected it under Hitler.

    In other words, NSDAP National Socialism is more American than the current Finance Capitalist (Jewish/British) system we are now running.

    But, since America has amnesia, we have to listen to sheeple bleeting out . uh er … socialism bad. Most of the brainwashed Brietbart crowd cannot even define various types of socialism, and when one suggests the that American System was socialist, their brains explode.

    Lincoln resurrected the American system to win civil war. Post war America was off to the races and stunned the world, which is how the American System found sympathy in places like Germany.

    The American System of economy included public spending on the commons, public spending on infrastructure, public spending on health via public hospitals and clean water, etc. Public education included inexpensive colleges supported by Federal Grants.

    This public spending went into the physical economy rather than into speculation and wall street.

    Physical economy is where you make goods and services, rather than creating paper finance/debt instruments.

    National Socialism is an industrial capitalist economy where state credit (a form of capital) channels into the physical economy and into industry. State credit also channels into general welfare, meaning that labor is seen as integral to the production system, and that capital is not held up as if it is god.

    State Credit is created by Treasury or state banks, and is exogenous (outside of) to the private banking system.

    The (((usual))) suspects did their best to undermine the U.S. from the very beginning, and finally won in 1912.

    • Agree: Miro23, Alden
    • Replies: @Usura
    , @Alden
    , @Anonymous
  93. AIPAC, Sheldon Adelson, George Soros, Haim Saban, Micheal Bloomberg and the rest of the satanic, cabal of parasitical Viruses OWN and CONTROL the US political system. These bloodsucking vampires pick which sewer rat sockpuppets that run for political office. This is how a senile, idiot pedophile like joe biden is the front runner presidential candidate. This gang of Viruses have brought about communism, cultural marxism, Transgenderism/Homosexual propaganda forced upon minors,
    Opioid Epidemic (Holocaust of American youth), sellout of American industry to communist China…
    Communist China now Owns the US media propaganda machine. A marriage of key elements of the US Constitution and the ideas of National Socialism would save the US and Western Civilization from TOTAL destruction.

    SOCIAL NATIONALISM

  94. @AnonFromTN

    Well said, Anon. Sorry I called you a “hasbarat”, you obviously are nothing of the sort. Just the opposite, as a matter of fact. I’ve always been a neo-Confederate at heart, as it happens. Long live the South!

  95. @davidgmillsatty

    80,000 people died of the flu during the 2017-2018 flu season (Oct through May). I hope many fewer lose their lives this year. We can have varied opinions on the severity of this virus. Few of us are epidemiologists.

    But there is no need for the hyper aggressive ranting and raving coming from the particular group I mentioned. Being as it is comprised of individuals who have absolutely no knowledge of infectious diseases or much knowledge of anything really.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  96. Eric Striker hit the nail right on the head, as he always does. What we need is a Mohammed of the white race. Someone who will be a political, a military and a religious leader all at once.

  97. @Just another serf

    What do you expect politicians to do? They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They do nothing and are blamed like hell for doing nothing. They do something and are blamed that it was the wrong thing to do.

    And I just checked NY death stats today. It is up to 36 deaths per 100,000 people. It is easy for those who live where the death toll is 1 per 100,000 to criticize lockdowns. And I think it is perfectly reasonable for those who live with a death toll 36 times as high to say lockdowns should have occurred much sooner and with much greater restrictions.

    I just think it is personal bias based on how you personally have been affected.

    It is a bit of an irony that these extremely high (comparatively speaking) death tolls are happening in the economic headquarters of the world.

  98. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    I live in TN, so I don’t need to vote. If the Republican party nominates a horse, good God-fearing church-going people of TN would vote for a horse.

    It is not unique to the GOP. A number of animals have held U.S. Office: (1)

    In addition to 7 dogs who’ve served as mayor of their towns, get this list. We discovered Stubbs the cat, who has been Mayor of Talkeetna, AK since 1997 (career politicians, am I right?), a beer-loving goat named Clay Henry, who was the mayor of Lajitas, TX from 1986 until his passing in 1992, and Alice the cow, the mayor of Eastsound, WA. But it’s all about the dog mayors around here. Meet them below!

    I would gladly take the honest beer drinking goat, over the theatrical beer drinking Liz Warren.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Wielgus
  99. @Wally

    Who do you prefer over Trump & why?

    Simple answer: among current Dem zoo, which was a veritable zoo even before most animals withdrew and endorsed the dumbest of them all – no one.

    Again, not because Trump is all that good, but because those “alternatives” are much worse. It was the same in 2016 – Killary was clearly insane, likely certifiable. Not to mention that she was and is a real bitch corrupt to the core.

    Does it mean that I approve of Trump’s policies? A resounding no! He never did any of the sensible things he promised. He did all the worst things his voters did not expect: did not stop illegal immigration, moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, increased MIC share of the federal budget (which was insane even before him), reduced taxes for billionaires like himself, etc.

    Who would I like to be president? None of the scum currently on the national scene. By rights, most of them should be in jail for life, some in the lunatic asylum inside the jail.

    I want a sane sensible non-ideological pragmatic person who would care for the country, work on solving its problems (healthcare, infrastructure, education, industry, to name just a few), and stop wasting money on MIC (ostensibly on “defense”, one wonders from who). Who can make the US a strong and proud country, rather than lame utterly immoral Empire creating chaos all over the world under hypocritical pretext of “bringing democracy”.

    Do we have anyone approaching that description? In the higher echelons of power – no. Maybe current pandemic would wake up decent Americans and make them put forward someone at least half-decent. But I am not holding my breath.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Wally
  100. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @animalogic

    Part of the problem of spending your life championing the oppressed is that you because a total tool of the oppressed. Therefore, when the oppressed says you should support illegal immigrant crossdressers who want to use women’s bathrooms, and that these people should be automatically exempt from jail because of their skin color, that’s what you do.

    Sanders ended up being batted about by the left because he was both greedy and weak. His morals were about as changeable as a kite in a hurricane. He never met a leftist fad he didn’t fall for.

  101. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Don’t you worry, nothing would turn TN blue. Maybe excessive drink, but that would make it blue in the face, not blue politically. FYI, I find current Dem “party” a lot more obnoxious than current Rep “party”, but I find their common puppet masters more obnoxious still.

  102. @A123

    I would gladly take the honest beer drinking goat, over the theatrical beer drinking Liz Warren.

    You are going to have an option of voting for an utterly dishonest corrupt goat. I don’t know whether he drinks beer. His obvious senility is a cherry on the cake.

  103. Anon[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom Verso

    When Jews had a chance recently to elect a guy in their own country, they elected Netanyahu. They prefer can-do military men for their prime ministers such as Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Barak, Yitzhak Rabin, and Menachem Begin, They did not elect a professor-type like Bernie Sanders. Deep down, Jews don’t want to ruled by guys like Bernie. They have plenty of Bernies among them, and Jews know you can’t trust impractical jackasses like Bernie to run anything.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Tom Verso
  104. What sort of white rust-belt worker would warm to a Brooklyn communist? I guess some would, having been re-educated in the public schools, but I think most would not.

    Bernie had a bigger problem in his failure to attract blacks, which contrasts with his ability to attract Hispanics. No one in the media pointed out the obvious: Lots of blacks don’t like Jews and resent their stewardship of the civil rights movement.

    I have come to the conclusion after many years that tribal loyalties usually trump ideology – which view every politician confirms by his behavior. No way I’d trust Bernie to broker a fair mid-east peace no matter what he says on the subject. No way I’d trust an observant Catholic or Protestant to be neutral on Northern Ireland no matter what they say. No way I’d trust a gay to be neutral on gay marriage.

  105. @carlos217

    This was a reason for Sanders to hang in since he would be second in line.

  106. S says:
    @Anonymous

    Which raises the question why it is that Jews apparently hate the Irish more than they hate the Germans and Russians—if that’s possible. Can you offer any guidance?

    No, I can’t. Broadly speaking, though, I think the historic relationship between various Euro peoples and the Jewish people has been ultimately quite unhealthy and destructive for both parties, and to the extent possible, amicable separation from each other would be the best way to go.

    I’d like to think I would say exactly the same thing if I was Jewish.

  107. Dube says:
    @carlos217

    I think its rather obvious Hillary is coming back, Biden will clear the way for her to do so as he`s visibly senile and knows he cant win, also explains why Obama won’t endorse him as Trump said last night.

    Well noted.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @RadicalCenter
  108. Ghali says:

    Unfortunately, most people believe that the Americans people decide on who will be president. It is a myth. The Jews and the pro-Israel Zionists are the people who make the decision on who will be the White House. They are happy for Trump to continue. Despite Biden’s loyalty to Israel and his well-known grovelling to its war criminals, Trump is a much better dog.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  109. phil says:

    Eric, how far do you want to take your nationalist socialist position? In November 1978 Deng Xiaoping visited Southeast Asia, including Singapore, and decided that China needed to open up. Singapore itself had opened up. China’s average living standards were less than those in the US in 1820. The degree of capitalism was increased from less than 3 (on a scale from 0 to 10) and eventually surpassed 6. China acceded to the World Trade Organisation. Did China make a mistake? Or do you think China has just the right degree of socialism now? The degree of capitalism in Singapore and Hong Kong is between 8.5 and 9.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Alden
  110. Usura [AKA "Macht"] says:
    @Mefobills

    Dear Mefobills, thank you for your detailed comments and unique perspective. I have learned so much from you and you really challenge my ideas! I am well read in the theories of Rothbard, Mises, and Hoppe, and while still sympathetic to some of their views, I find the sovereign money critique compelling. I am almost done reading “The Lost Science of Money” by Zarlenga and plan to read the works of Alexander Del Mar next. If you don’t mind, I have a few questions.

    1) Are there any sources you recommend which detail step by step the dynamics of specific banking/monetary instruments, like a compendium of definitions for terms like “credit”, “treasury bill”, “bond”, etc., but from a sovereign money perspective? The historical overview of Zarlenga’s text is excellent, but I find many of the explanations scant on detail (probably because the author has so much professional experience that he assumes the implications of various methods of banking will be inferred from his descriptions).

    2) Has there been a libertarian or anarcho-capitalist critique of sovereign money theorists like Zarlenga, or a libertarian response to “The Lost Science of Money” in particular? A quick search for “Zarlenga” on the Mises institute website returns no results!

    Thank you for all your comments here, and I hope you continue to write for as long as they let you.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Ondra Hada
  111. Well, all this is assuming the machines aren’t rigged. They are. Not that it matters. They would never let anyone serious about changing anything even get close to power. The CIA pretty much runs the show.

    Anyway, pretending it even matters, Sanders first mistake was stumping for Hillary in 2016. Should have taken his followers and started a new party or a yellow vest revolt. The electoral college will prevent any serious threat from 3rd parties though.

    Next big mistake Russiagate and impeachment. That was all the normies who are programmed by the TeeVee saw or heard for 3 years. That wasn’t what most people who are struggling to survive wanted to hear every time they turned on the TV. Sanders giving it legitimacy put him in the same boat as the Hillary neoliberals who wanted to blame her loss on anything but policy.

    Refusing to confront the horrors of the Obama admin. Sanders refuses to call out corruption in the Dem party. Joe Biden and Obama are not “friends” of the working class. They are as much the enemy as Trump or Bush. Biden is not a “decent guy”, he is worse than Trump in most every way. Not good!

    I think the Hollywood impeachment and Russiagate were the main things that left most people disgusted. It was obvious all along that it was helping Trump and making Dems look like psychos. They knew exactly what they were doing. Sanders was stupid or complicit to not call it out. There were plenty of actual impeachable war crimes, thing is Dems are all complicit in all of them.

    This writer, the alt right guy, really shows his true colors in articles like this one. Anyone who really believes Hillary Clinton is a communist is not someone to take seriously. Likes to pretend that “illegals” do not already receive “free” healthcare and other perks. That is how the conservatives get you every time. Make you believe that the bad guy (illegals) are going to receive something “free” that they already get free, in order to prevent you from getting the same return on your taxes. So we just continue on with the old healthcare racket, that will eventually leave you bankrupt.

    You can’t have a universal system and then start disqualifying people you don’t like. It either covers everyone or it don’t. The “illegals”, like it or not were driven from their homes and invited here by your capitalist overlords. Either by bad trade deals that put them out of work, terrorism, death squads and genocides, installing narco dictators and fascists, all arranged by the CIA to steal their resources for the benefit of corporations. They’re not “invaders”, your overlords are the invaders, the “illegals” were invited here because they’re cheaper. The right always seems to forget these little details, welcome to capitalism.

    The alt right has no right to criticize DSA. As lame as DSA, BLM or Antifa is, none are any different than the alt righters. All these groups spend their time turning everything into a race war or stupid cultural war riff raff that no one with an IQ over 70 or so finds sane or appealing. Which is the point. Anyone who thinks what these groups practice is communism or socialism should have their head examined.

    What the alt right and DSA pratice is called identity politics. They’re not fighting the class war, they too busy fighting each other over meaningless bullshit. Neither are a threat to the ruling class as long as they’re in Charlottesville with their shields and torches, bashing each others skulls in. Calling each other Nazis and fags. Throwing shit and piss at one another. Fucking knuckleheads is what you are.

    The ruling class, Obama, Trump, Oprah, Adelson, Kushner, Clinton, Soros, the whole lot are sitting back laughing their asses off at you knuckleheads. Getting nigger rich while you monkeys fight for the crumbs. Wanting a white ethnostate that has never existed and will never exist, welcome to capitalism. You’re just as worthless to them as an Injun, an African slave, or a Mexican. Just as replaceable when they need to extract more profit, welcome to capitalism.

    Not that it really matters if its Biden or Trump or even Sanders. Bloomberg and his ilk have bought the Dems. Adelson, Singer and their ilk own the Repubs. CIA, Wall ST, MIC, Zionists, Saudis, Europeans, everyone but ordinary Americans own the country, everything is a commodity, the country is up for auction, welcome to capitalism. No sovereignty. Police state, no privacy, real journalists jailed or disappeared. No difference between red or blue team. Assassination of JFK ended it, 9/11 finished it off. Who knows what the fuck they have planned with this virus. I do know voting will not change a thing.

    This is why most people have chosen to not encourage their BS by voting. I think the number will only increase after this fraudulent shitshow.

    Lame.

    • Agree: Alden, davidgmillsatty
    • Replies: @Kim
  112. Reading the comments. I can’t help but realized that the divide n conquer is working flawlessly on the voters. Creating retarded useless ideologies for the red and blue. Both sides will fight it out. Thinking their votes matter. Then fuck them as usual after the useless election.

    Everyone here is like omg, my candidate is better than yours!!!

    Conservatives bad, leftists bad, socialists bad, and the funniest of all communists bad.

    I am like, learn to vote for your wallets retards. Who gives a shit what side you are on. Vote for whomever that will take care of your wallets.

    That tax cut for the millionaires and billionaires fucked the federal budget. Hence why the tariffs. Get it yet? This shit wasn’t about bringing back jobs. This was trump taxing the American consumers on top of all the taxes to fund the federal budget after his tax cut. I don’t have to type anymore right?

    Vote for your wallet, be smart in the future elections. This presidential election is already over. Zombiden has no chance in hell or heaven.

    Andrew yang was the only one looking out for 90% of the Americans, he was our last chance. Too fucking bad.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  113. SafeNow says:

    Enthusiasm at rallies did correlate with enthusiasm to turn out and vote. People went to rallies hoping to meet someone and get laid. Or at a minimum, to socialize. You don’t do those things at the voting place, so don’t bother to vote.

    But Bernie’s not out of it. He realizes that it is better to allow Biden plus Harris to self-destruct, rather than to try to bring down Biden through campaigning. Biden might yet self-destruct, now that he has aligned himself with this brusque, charmless, nasty, long-handled garden tool.

    • Replies: @Alden
  114. Kronos says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Keep in mind the Clinton/Neoliberal Democrats we’re ready for Bernie in 2020…

    Back in 2016 rank-in-file Boomers expected an election between those two dynastic train wrecks the Bushes and Clintons. Trump and Bernie represented major insurgencies that established powers weren’t ready for. Clinton defeated Bernie in 2016 only by extensive DNC rigging and manipulation. Trump won the GOP because it was so extensively damaged by the Neocons and Bush II that a hostile takeover was possible. Any reform of the Democratic Party will be a very uphill battle. It might very well be easier to join Trump and transform the GOP into a working class party than rehabilitate the Democratic Party towards its New Deal roots.

    Remember, these New Left Boomer Yuppie knuckleheads have been in control for a long time. It’ll be a while before the wine aunts and beta cucks die off.

  115. Flubber says:
    @schnellandine

    Just like McCain and Romney.

    Both recruited to take a dive in the 4th….

  116. Mefobills says:
    @Usura

    Are there any sources you recommend which detail step by step the dynamics of specific banking/monetary instruments, like a compendium of definitions for terms like “credit”, “treasury bill”, “bond”, etc., but from a sovereign money perspective?

    Good question… hmm. Probably Hudson’s definitions in “J is for Junk economics,” will become the dictionary going forward.

    The best way to learn is through modeling. Things are easier to understand when you can see the monetary circuit. Unfortunately, most authors in the past used words and the words are ill defined, as you are finding out.

    Sovereign money is chartalist. Lolbertarians and Anarcho-Capitalists have some critiques of Chartalism, but it is mostly dismissive. Their definition of currency and credit and money is based on past systems.

    Currency vs Banking theory may help. Also, click on the books link for more reading material:

    https://sovereignmoney.site/more-money-system-theory

    Here are some quick definitions: Credit and Debts are something that humans do automatically as part of our evolutionary heritage. If you fix a broken window for Maria you have a fixed window credit with her. She is in a fixed window debt to you. She may discharge her debt relation by giving you a BJ. See… no money is necessary to discharge credit/ debt relations. Both of you are happy if it was a good deal.

    If you go to the grocery store and place a can of soup in your cart, you are in a quasi soup debt to the grocery store. When you check out, you discharge your debt with money. Your soup debt was priced in money.

    If you use your credit cart, you have discharged your debt to the grocer, with another debt. You credit card is then paid off at the end of the month with money.

    Credits and Debts are inverse mirrors of each other and should not be confused with money. Yet, the faulty thought constructs of the past do conflate credit and debt with money, either through ignorance or duplicity. Credits and Debts, when they get together annihilate each other. The BJ credit annihilated the fixed window debt (from Maria’s point of view). Most of clay ledger history of mankind is about credits and debts. Small tribes simply remembered who owed who what and didn’t need clay ledgers. Most of Bible ‘sin’ is really about debt, as Hudson has shown.

    Treasury Bill = Debt Instrument = Bond. Ergo, always think of it as a TBill/Bond. TBills are a misnomer.

    A bill stands alone as purchasing power, and is not a debt instrument. A dollar bill is a pay to the bearer instrument. A bill is latent demand.

    Bond = Debt Instrument. Bond’s pay interest to the bond holder.

    The best way to think of bond action is three fold: 1) hypothecation 2) Existing money 3) Lever

    A TBill/Bond can enter a bank ledger to be monetized into new bank credit, which we spend as money. This is hypothecation.

    A TBill/Bond can attract existing money from money supply, to then return money + Interest at some later date. A bond from General Motors will do the same.

    If you model a bond action, it would have different equations, depending on where the bond is lodged. If it is held as bank reserves, then it can be levered. If it is on the FED ledger it was probably monetized public debt; if it is held by an individual it is a claim on existing future money. A bond from General Motors cannot by law, act the same as a TBill/Bond… it cannot be hypothecated.

    The pea and shell crowd has made money systems nearly as complex as particle physics.

    You might be ready to dig through MMT. Just remember that MMT lies when they say that government is a sovereign issuer of money. Government isn’t a sovereign issuer of money. Government is a sovereign issuer of TBill/Bonds, which in turn are debt instruments.

    • Thanks: Spanky
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  117. @Kronos

    An underated movie, in the sense that it described the upcoming chaos. In any event, the average 14 year old white child might well be preferable to either Biden or Trump. Honestly, while easily distracted, the child’s level of greed and corruption is at least moderated by their limited life experience.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  118. Kim says:
    @JackOH

    The common view of Huey Long as a leveller for the common man is a great example of people not understanding how resource realities determine political possibilities and not otherwise.

    What did Huey Long do for Louisiana? Some bridges. Lots of paved roads. Free schoolbooks. Natural gas for New Orleans. That is about it.

    These things cost money. Because of Louisiana’s resource boom, it was possible to tax Standard Oil to get the funds that provided these things.

    This was all good because the resource base existed to support it. The problem is that people – like Bernie bros or AOC – think it was an entirely ideological issue, that Huey proved that we could always have what we wanted just by spending the money.

    The fact is, however, that the question “where will the money come from?” is real and important and Saint Huey did not prove what leftists think he proved.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  119. Kim says:
    @phil

    Deng didn’t decide to open up and so China magically abandoned strict Maoism and bloomed economically. Rather, international capital decided to bring Chinese demand and low cost manufacturing online to counterbalance falling demand and higher production costs in the West.

    Western oligarchs say:”We will ship almost our entire economies and any future technologies to China for free and you can grow and the communist oligarchs can stay in power and become billionaires. How’s that?”

    The Chinese government could hardly resist an offer like that, could they?

    • Replies: @Anon
  120. Kim says:
    @redmudhooch

    Some people call it “divide and rule”, but that is accurate only if the divisions are false. But racial divisions are real. So real in fact are they that we should make our slogan “Divide and survive: freedom of association now!

  121. Alden says:

    I wonder, has Eric Striker ever even spoken to a White
    “Worker” from a 200K a year electrician, plumber kitchen remodeler or high iron guy to a minimum wage clerk?

    Another thought this Chinese flu the world is ending propaganda has driven news of global warming and Greta Thurnberg totally out of the news. Thanks be to God Amen

    That communist or whatever he is occupying the position of Pope made a statement that the world ending Chinese flu is Mother Earth’s retribution for global warming.

  122. Wielgus says:
    @A123

    What policies did the goat espouse?

  123. Wielgus says:
    @Anon

    Israeli Jews may be more drawn to “macho, macho man” than Jews elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  124. Alden says:
    @SafeNow

    During the recent primaries I looked at some black social media. It was all Harris is a traitor because she was a prosecutor and prosecuted blacks. Well, most of the criminals in San Francisco, her county are black, the rest Hispanic. Then she went on to become a state attorney general, a prosecutor at the state level. She was a prosecutor her entire career till she became a US senator.

    Blacks are a criminal class. Blacks strongly believe black criminals are wrongly arrested and convicted. The church ladies and union bus drivers will do as they’re told. But the blacks won’t bloc vote for a career prosecutor. Plus she really doesn’t look black. More tan Arab Indian S American mixed race. Does the average black even in California let alone the rest of the country know who she is? Did blacks watch those primary TV shows?

  125. Miro23 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    I want a sane sensible non-ideological pragmatic person who would care for the country, work on solving its problems (healthcare, infrastructure, education, industry, to name just a few), and stop wasting money on MIC (ostensibly on “defense”, one wonders from who). Who can make the US a strong and proud country, rather than lame utterly immoral Empire creating chaos all over the world under hypocritical pretext of “bringing democracy”.

    A person of this kind would be a major threat to the Special Interests that run the place.

    The only real solution is a complete reset and rebuild from zero – same as the Germans and Japanese after WW2. Their complex special interest elites were completely flattened by 1945.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @AnonFromTN
  126. Alden says:
    @Mefobills

    Agree, agree, agree some call it fascism, some call it national socialism Its the best economic system ever. It did wonderfully for America. But it was undermined and destroyed a long time ago.

  127. Miro23 says:
    @Ghali

    Unfortunately, most people believe that the Americans people decide on who will be president. It is a myth. The Jews and the pro-Israel Zionists are the people who make the decision on who will be the White House. They are happy for Trump to continue. Despite Biden’s loyalty to Israel and his well-known grovelling to its war criminals, Trump is a much better dog.

    Agree that Trump is doing the job for them. He’s more mentally capable than Biden, and he’s also got those residual “America First” followers still living on hope and x dimensional chess.

  128. Anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mefobills

    Great post.

  129. Alden says:
    @Dube

    She’s an obese. 74 year old severe alcoholic. Why is she still alive?

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  130. Alden says:
    @phil

    Hope Godfree Roberts the advertising man doesn’t see your post that Chinese living standards in 1978 were the same as American in 1820. 1978, just 2 years before my friend Bob was born into world with no mother’s milk, livestock milk or formula for babies.

    Bob’s told me what his father told him about Mao’s backyard steel furnaces. First the idea was impossible. It takes temperatures of 2,750 Fahrenheit to melt iron into steel. Can’t be done by amateurs without enough fuel and a proper furnace and oxygen flow, plus some other ingredients than iron.

    Since Mao didn’t furnish the amateurs with coal, they destroyed the forests. N China’s very dry semi desert in parts. So the destruction of trees just caused more desert. They also used doors, furniture , wagons carts wooden boats, anything. And they produced nothing, nothing, nothing.

    It was probably like some of the US civilian efforts in the world wars. Save kitchen grease to be collected to be used for explosives. Save gum wrappers and other tin foil. Roll guaze into bandages with your friends Give blood put up your black out curtains.

    A big collective effort whether it’s useful or not.

    Keep everybody trying to make steel in the court yard or villages plaza and they won’t be muttering about change.

    Bob and his Dad also say the education system was abysmal when Bob was in grade school. The Red Guard thing killed all the school teachers vocational and college teachers and skilled experienced workers who normally teach apprentices. So from about 1966 on, it was a country of untrained amateurs fumbling their way.

    • Replies: @Kim
  131. Kim says:
    @Alden

    Godflee has told us that there was no violence in the Cultural Revolution. too. All of those pictures of old men and women in dunces caps, being held in “the airplane” (both arms twisted up and back), and with placards around their necks being heated by cadres, that was all just good, clean fun.

    • Replies: @Alden
  132. Kim says:
    @Miro23

    “The only real solution is…”

    There are short term solutions for some of our societal ills (reinstate freedom of association, criminalize adultery, prosecute pornographers, execute drug dealers, end the unlawful police seizure of private property, no federal funds for or involvement in education, end private banking and make it a utility, end autosuggest on all typing devices, and so on)…

    But long term there are no solutions that can save us all. Long term – say 50 years max from now – there is not going to be a United States, or a China, nor any other country as we recognize them today

    The problems we are facing, the dissatisfactions that people feel, the dislocations that people are trying to deal with, and the long-run economic and social decay that we are witnessing are all products of the fact that we are in late stage overshoot. Humans have over consumed on a finite planet. We have been able to do this bcs we discovered New Worlds of resources and abundant fossil fuels, especially oil.

    Now we are at the end of those free resources and it is time for us all to face a future of radically less, fierce competition for resources, and mass death. There are no long term solutions to this. There are scarcely even any possible reasonable preparations. Survival will be a huge crapshoot.

    If you were certain that the population of the United States would be fewer than 20 million by 2056, perhaps much fewer, how would you prepare for it? How should the US government prepare for this? Are your interests and theirs aligned?

  133. JackOH says:
    @Kim

    “Where will the money come from?” is a real question, but it’s often used to conceal a counsel of despair and lethargy used by people who may agree with you but don’t have the energy or ability to pursue a particular initiative. Often, it’s also used to close debate by people who disagree with you substantively, but don’t wish to be bothered by an extended back-and-forth.

  134. Tom Verso says:
    @Anon

    Interesting thought.

    I will keep it in mind in my future reflections on Jewish dominance of the Civilization originally founded as Christendom.

    Perhaps the Christian Aryan European people have become effeminate-ized and are succumbing to the aggressive non-Christian Middle Eastern Semitics. Wielgus reply to your comment is cogent.

  135. Tom Verso says:
    @Wielgus

    Interesting … see my comment #135

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  136. Alden says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    I can think of only 3 Presidents who helped the working class. Coolidge with immigration restrictions, FDR with his support of labor unions , and very indirectly , Jackson with his blocking of a national bank and removing unassimilated Indians who continued the ancient custom of raiding Whites from east of the Mississippi

    Washington was anti worker in that he led more troops against the Whiskey rebels than he did against the British.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  137. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kim

    Exactly. The irony is that the Team China retards who crow about the glorious hegemonic future of China are oblivious to the fact that the US-led globalist order that is entirely responsible for China’s rise is collapsing all around them.

  138. Miro23 says:
    @Kim

    If you were certain that the population of the United States would be fewer than 20 million by 2056, perhaps much fewer, how would you prepare for it? How should the US government prepare for this? Are your interests and theirs aligned?

    We know how the interests of the present US government are aligned – maximum elite power and profits – and this isn’t going to change.

    So, assuming that they have been forcibly removed, what population do you need to run an organized state that is respectful of nature and natural resources while being an attractive place to live?

    The United States in 1776 (13 states) is estimated to have had a population of about 2.5 million. By 2019 (50 states) this had risen to 327.2 million people (almost 131x more). So, turning the clock back, if for example 9.6 million people (with modern technology) were living in the current US rather than 327.2 million would they be better off?

    Almost certainly they would, and it would completely take the pressure off the natural world and natural resources.

    The only rule needed to get there would be a “One Child Policy” applicable to everyone, which should be tolerable, and would fast reduce the population until it reached the desired level.

    Of course it would be a disaster for profits, stocks, elites, corporations, sales, GNP machismo etc. but the assumption is that these power freaks would have been overthrown.

    • Replies: @Alden
  139. Alden says:
    @Kim

    Bob’s father was some kind of engineer back in China. He knows enough about the steel making process to tell how ridiculous the back yard steel furnace idea was. In addition to using doors furniture etc for fuel, the Chinese had to melt down pots and pans, hinges, metal parts and fittings, anything to put in the crucible to show they’d produced something to the inspectors who were everywhere. Crucible, wonder what they used for that. Probably an laundry tub or beer brewing vat? Wouldn’t they melt too if they ever achieved 1,000 Fahrenheit?

    All they made was slag. Slag can’t be melted again and made into useful items again according to Bob’s Dad. It’s just lost.

    And although they were just melting down metal, how dangerous it was. How many people were injured.

    Bob’s Mom had to have 4 unwanted abortions after he was born. Abortions caused by lack of birth control. If a country orders its people to have fewer children, then they must be supplied with birth control.

    Just those 2 issues, fewer children but no birth control and making steel by melting down cooking equipment, door hinges and metal
    Parts might lead an observer to question the logic and reasoning processes of the leaders of China.

    • Replies: @anon
  140. anarchyst says:
    @Kim

    Far from being “fossil fuel”, hydrocarbons are not only plentiful but are being renewed by yet-unknown processes deep within the earth.
    The term “fossil fuel” was coined in the 1950s when little was known about the processes by which oil is produced. Oil is “abiotic” in nature, as even depleted oil wells are “filling back up” from deep below the earth’s surface.
    Oil interests are drilling wells at 5,000 feet, 10,000 feet, and 15,000 feet and deeper, and coming up with oil deposits way below the layers and levels where “fossils” were known to exist.
    As Russia gained much expertise in deep-well drilling and coming up with oil deposits far deeper than that of the level of “fossils”, abiotic oil at extreme depths was actually a Russian ‘state secret” for a long time.
    Not only that, but there are planetary bodies in which hydrocarbons are naturally occurring (without fossils).
    “Peak oil” and “fossil fuels” are discredited concepts that environmentalists and others are latching on to, in order to display their hatred of oil being a renewable resource as well as to push prices up.
    Follow the money.

  141. Wielgus says:
    @Tom Verso

    Zionists, especially Israeli ones, have often denigrated the intellectualism and bookishness of many pre-WW2 Jews, especially in Europe. They think it set them up for slaughter. In contrast Israelis were to be tough, strong, physically fit and above all capable of waging war. A certain machismo is also present, especially in military and intelligence circles. People like Moshe Dayan flaunted their philandering. Female IDF soldiers have sometimes been treated as sexual commodities by commanders and senior Mossad personnel (Victor Ostrovsky described an orgy in a swimming pool involving some of the latter). I do not set as much store by IQ as some Unz commentators but I am not surprised that Israel’s IQ results are not especially high on average – the country’s ethos is a somewhat low-brow one.

    • Agree: Tom Verso
  142. @Miro23

    You mean, without unconditional surrender we have no chance? The US then must choose the enemy to surrender to wisely.

  143. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos

    Yes both parties made a big mistake with their dynastic politics in 2015/2016 especially Jeb. I agree taking over the GOP in the Trump era is our best bet. There is genuine party democracy mostly because the party itself is not beholden to big city machine politics and job patronage. People should have been taking over the GOP at the local, state, and national levels during the Trump era. It was a golden opportunity that was missed due to the immaturity, selfishness, vanity, and failure of the so called “movement”. When Trump is reelected his second term offers hope though. Trump will be empowered politically riding high and will be much more savvy in appointments. We still have a chance. Let’s not waste it again.

    Where do people get the idea that Trump isn’t doing anything? Zero evidence of this exists except in some delusional far right universe. Meanwhile in the real world mass immigration both legal and illegal is down across the board. Zero tolerance, crackdowns on sanctuary cities/states, mass incarceration at the border, and reduced legal red tape have made deportations much easier. I’ve personally witnessed ICE raids in immigrant areas as well.

    Crime levels are also way down thanks to Trump and his tough on crime agenda. The DOJ under Trump is on the offensive taking the fight to criminals before they strike. There are nationwide sweeps 24/7 and the death penalty is being reactivated to reduce prison overpopulation. Despite all this we have an Attorney General who rightly thinks we have an under incarceration problem. There is a reason every city in America isn’t on fire right now. Most people are surprised at the orderliness of the pandemic and lack of major chimp outs but that’s because Trump laid the groundwork for that first as a candidate for president and then as president. Europe is far worse off. People give MAGA types shit because of Trump’s fixation on black unemployment but he’s just throwing them a bone after smashing them.

    As for tax cuts those were immensely beneficial to the economy and are a standard part of the GOP platform. The real critique of Trump is poor infrastructure and healthcare under his watch but hardy anyone addressed those issues until now. The Israel stuff most people don’t care about but that generally applies to most foreign policy issues. Although I’d like to reiterate Jeffrey Epstein was only arrested/executed under Trump which is at least some form of justice. I’m a big Russia/China supporter myself and I think Trump has done a good job both domestically and internationally. Things would be a lot worse under anyone else.

    We have institutional power/support right now and things are going reasonably well all things considered but instead people take that for granted. People here are the same sort of people big into talk radio in the 1990s. Instead of enjoying the last good decade in American history they whined constantly. The purpose of which was to engage in the daily outrage, validate conspiracy theories, pander to unsuccessful people looking for scapegoats, and to suggest the broadcaster/blogger/personality/guru is the only salvation. People like that don’t achieve anything in the real world and are attention seeking narcissists. They’re also fed assets or are surrounded by fed assets like Richard Spencer. This wife beating trust fund baby is the biggest embarassment of the era. I can’t believe there are clowns who think failures like him are more beneficial than Trump, RamzPaul, and Alex Jones. Whatever their other shortcomings they’ve moved things forward for nationalists/populists unlike the so called “intellectuals”.

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  144. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Great observations and I totally agree. Coolidge, FDR, and Jackson were excellent presidents.

    • Replies: @Alden
  145. @Anonymous

    Hi there, RedArmyVodka!

    I see you have that spiel ready to copy-and-paste on multiple websites. And here I thought you wrote it just for my blog!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  146. @Usura

    I have been watching Joseph Huber’s videos on youtube. They are basically video presentation formats of some of what you can read on sovereignmoney.site.

    From what I understand, the purpose of Sovereign Money is to put the Money Supply in the State hands instead of Private Banks. The general critique from Libertarians of the current monetary system is that the Government is printing FIAT at will and thus out of control. It would be more accurate to say that Private Banks are in fact controlling the money supply and Government is just an enabler ( via the Federal Reserve ). That’s a very important distinction.

    Private Banks expand the money supply not with the Federal Reserve printing press but by making new Loans, and buying assets in exchange for Bank Money ( new loans are Bank Money ). The Federal Reserve Policy is in service of the Money Supply that Private Banks create. The actual Cash and Treasury Bills that banks have is a small percent compared to the Bank Money that is in Customer accounts ( hence Fractional Reserve Banking ).

    The Sovereign Money that Joseph Huber suggests would not fix all Money Supply problems, HOWEVER, it would put into the public eye where new money is actually coming from.. rather than emanating from the shadows of private bank deals ( loans, asset purchases, etc ).

    In essence Sovereign Money would make possible even further Monetary Reforms.

    It doesn’t solve usurious power creep, that is a separate issue.

    FIAT money coming from the Federal Reserve would be BETTER than what we have now. Right now people don’t know where to aim their guns, because it isn’t at your local Wells Fargo loan officer.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  147. Kronos says:
    @Just another serf

    The director understood the Greatest Generation/Baby Boomer 1:5 population ratio was to lead to major changes. That Vietnam draft dodgers and Feminists were so large that any political intergenerational consensus was unnecessary. That population difference led the New Deal Democratic Party Coalition to transform into “Club Yuppie.”

  148. Wally says:
    @AnonFromTN

    So IOW, Trump IS better than the alternatives, as I said.

    Thanks.

    Trump landslide 2020

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  149. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @BannedHipster

    Oh no I’ve been caught comment plagiarizing my own ideas! Please don’t take me off to e-jail!

    Dear God before you descend into another conspiracy theory (911 Truther folks) please know my comment was original to your site but just reposted for convenience here because I’m conveying the same basic ideas albeit improved somewhat. Here is my only other commentary of significance and its pop culture related meaning no political astroturf conspiracy innuendo plz.

    https://www.unz.com/article/joker-2019-and-the-dark-knight-2008/

  150. Alden says:
    @Miro23

    What about unlimited, invasion level non White immigration? Would that continue? And if laws were passed to stop it what would be done to prevent the entire food industry from planting to restaurants from bringing in their hordes?

    You’d have to have hundreds of thousands of anti immigrant enforcers in every farm and ranch slaughter house cannery food processor food ware house grocery store and restaurant in the country day and night.

    That’s just one industry that the capitalist pigs prefer to hire legal and illegal non White foreigners. What about Silicon Valley and Seattle.? There’s hardly a White American to be seen in those tech jobs anymore.

    A one child per family law would do nothing to stop the decline of the White population.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  151. Miro23 says:
    @Alden

    What about unlimited, invasion level non White immigration? Would that continue? And if laws were passed to stop it what would be done to prevent the entire food industry from planting to restaurants from bringing in their hordes?

    If you’re going to get rid of the current US elites then there’s going to be some kind of war or revolution. They’re not going to go willingly.

    Then out of the chaos there come closed borders with a definition of who is an American citizen with a right to a US passport.

    One idea, would be anyone born in the US before the passing of the Hart-Celler Act 1965 and their children. Others legally in the US could remain but convert to foreign resident status with temporal work contracts. American citizens (basically Anglos with a native Indian, Black and Latino minority) would then permanently hold political power and everyone (citizens and foreign residents), would accept a one child policy.

    If foreign residents didn’t accept it then they have their residence withdrawn and leave.

    The effect would be to return the US to the ethnic balance of 1965 (power holding citizens) with closed borders, and ONLY THEN start the process of population reduction.

  152. anon[878] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    If a country orders its people to have fewer children, then they must be supplied with birth control.

    Didn’t the One Child Policy mean that the State only paid for one child and the rest were ineligible for funding?

    • Replies: @Alden
  153. @Wally

    Nah, he is not better.

    The vote is like pick your deadly poison.

    You have to pick one no matter what.

    You will get it even if you abstain.

    At the end, you die no matter what. In this case, country dies. Slowly.

    Sad right?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Spanky
  154. Wally says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    The US economy would certainly disagree.

    Exploding approval ratings would certainly disagree.

    Trump Declares “National Day for the Victims of Communism”. Liars of the scamming “Holocau$t Industry” go crazy: https://www.salon.com/2017/11/07/trumps-national-day-for-the-victims-of-communism-is-opposite-of-holocaust-statement/

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  155. Spanky says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    You have to pick one no matter what. You will get it even if you abstain. — Astuteobservor II

    A while back I mentioned that societal beliefs do not necessarily have to reflect reality. This is one.

    In particular, the belief is (and it is implied in the Constitution and specifically mentioned in the Declaration of Independence) that a legitimate government rules by the consent of the governed.

    …deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed… — US Declaration of Independence

    So how do we consent to our governance? By voting for elected representatives. Whom are, of course, presumed to represent us, we the people, who elected them. Simple enough, no?

    But what happens if you, if we, begin to think our elected officials are no longer paying attention to our needs. That our Representatives, Senators, and President no longer represent us. Well, we are supposed to elect new representatives, better ones, to replace them, right? But what happens if that fails because the dominate political parties are corrupt? And all our attempts fail over and over and over again because we must continually choose between the lesser of two elite-approved evils?

    What happens …when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism… and we wish to withdraw our consent to be governed? How do we do that?

    As you say, even if you abstain by not voting, you will be subject to the new government formed by those candidates elected by the remaining voters.

    If we are unable to withdraw our consent by not voting, then it is effectively impossible to withdraw our consent at all. But how can that be? For consent to mean anything at all it must not only be freely given but just as freely withdrawn.

    This is the Catch-22 of the American political system.

    Perhaps it is time to change the rules…

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    And now, for your coronavirus lockdown enjoyment… A controversial movie.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/b5gnWeyfYuPX/

  156. @Wally

    Bill Clinton had even higher approval rating during his sex scandal. Get it yet?

    Americans always rally around the so called leader during a crisis. Has nothing to do with competence. It is why first term Presidents like to wage wars right before second term elections.

    Do you seriously think the economy improved the last 4 years? Like seriously? job loss from the virus not included.

  157. @Spanky

    I’ve have been reading a lot about China, modern n old.

    The current politicians in the USA is 100% the same as the Chinese Mandarins class before modern China.

    A stranglehold on power. You cannot get into any position of power without going through them.

    Pays no tax while owning 90% of the country’s wealth.

    Corrupt as hell.

    Exploits the rest to the death. Literally.

    Total information control.

    When the ship finally sinks, you can bet they would be the ones with lifeboats.

    A representative govt does jackshit if consent cannot be withdrawn. And politicians can do whatever they want once elected. Zero accountability.

    The government at this point is an oligarchy.

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  158. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Spanky

    Good movie. Thanks for the link. I’d highly recommend it.

  159. @EliteCommInc.

    Just to be clear . . . .

    I did nothing unlawful in 2003 an nothing justifies what happened to me or rather what was one — nothing – but I could have made some other communication choices.

    That does not justify the what was done in violation of not only the law but the violations of human decency and dignity that accompanied and followed the same.

    Sure the woman in question was of little aide to Sen Sanders — however, the bulk was his adherence to socialism.

  160. @Astuteobservor II

    There are a lot of people who just don’t want to vote for their fucking wallets. Protestants by and large reject this idea. And they still are the majority of voters. And most blacks are Protestants which means any Democratic candidate that tells them to do that will likely get a very skeptical ho-hum reception.

    There are things in life more important than your wallet. At least that is what Protestants have been taught to believe. And most of the founders of this country were Protestants or deists who were Protestant agnostics or atheists.

    And it sure irks the shit out of those of us who have been raised in the Protestant tradition to be told we need to vote our self (financial) interests. You can expect a backlash (probably a very silent one) every time.

    • Replies: @Alden
  161. @Mefobills

    Here is what no economist seems to get and it drives us lawyers, who know better, nuts.

    Sovereign money should be in two forms, and both are credit instruments. Coins are the most obvious credit instruments. A credit instrument on paper is technically called a bill of credit (in the Constitution). It should not be called a note unless it is an IOU that carries interest.

    The term currency actually means there is no interest accruing. Technically any paper that does not carry interest is a bill of credit even if it is called a note. Under the Constitution, all states and private banks are prevented from issuing bills of credit. The Constitution does not prevent the federal government from issuing bills of credit. Only the federal government can issue bills of credit.

    Lincoln’s greenbacks were called Treasury notes, but when they were challenged as being illegal, the Supreme Court declared them to be bills of credit because they carried no interest despite being misnamed as notes. Coins do not carry interest either and the Supreme Court found that any government issued paper that does not carry interest is just like a coin. And the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of Lincoln’s greenbacks as bills of credit, not as notes.

    The word fiat means a government order. When a government declares something to be legal tender — that is a fiat. It means that the government is demanding that everybody accept any piece of paper that has something declared as legal tender to be money.

    Before this country began, the colonists started using paper money called colonial scrip. It was a bill of credit. And many states had their own. Normally bills of credit are never inflationary because they do not increase debt. The only exception to that is when the sovereign looses the ability to prevent counterfeiting. That is what happened to the Continental dollar during the Revolutionary war. The English counterfeited the Continental dollar and it became worthless. That would have not been the case had the colonists been able to prevent counterfeiting.

    Being badly burned by the English counterfeiting of the Continental dollar, after the founding of the country, the early Americans stuck to coins as money, as counterfeiting coins is much more difficult to do. Coins cost more to reproduce.

    What has really complicated the entire mess is Federal Reserve Notes, which are bank notes not US government notes. What makes it even worse, is that these private notes carry no interest and are thus currency and technically that makes them bills of credit which the Constitution forbids banks and states and local governments to issue. Moreover, they also carry the designation that they are legal tender. Federal Reserve notes, which the government has demanded that we accept as legal tender are actually private bills of credit which banks are not supposed to be able to issue as fiat currency. And so we have been doing that since 1913. Never underestimate the ability of our Congress to sell us out when they have been bought out by the banks.

    True US sovereign money is truly scarce now. The US government has not issued any bills of credit since Kennedy issued some (they were also misnamed US Treasury notes just like Lincoln’s greenbacks) and those were quickly retired. Coins now comprise a minute amount of our money supply and there is a push to eliminate them entirely. If it happens the US, technically will have no sovereign money at all.

    Some MMTers, as you know, understand that coins are credit instruments and can be issued by the government in any denomination. And as you point out, credit cancels debt. One MMTer suggested that the government should mint a trillion dollar coin. He should have suggested we mint twenty of them which at the time would have cancelled the twenty trillion dollar debt. But of course issuing trillion dollar coins makes no practical sense. Twenty trillion in bills of credit makes all the sense in the world.

    If you hold a $1000 bank note and you demand to be paid off, how does a bank do that? It just pays you off with another debt instrument. That is how.

    But if you hold a $1,000 US government note that carries interest, how does the US government pay you off. It could issue you another debt instrument that carries interest and increase the US debt by the interest it just guaranteed. Or it could issue you a bill of credit and wipe out the debt of the US government to the bearer of that instrument. And it could wipe out all debt quite quickly paying off debt with credit instruments. And then the currency would actually be a true currency that carries no interest.

    If we really want reform in this country, the federal government needs to begin retiring all of its debt with bills of credit that cost the federal government only the cost of paper and printing. That is how you change the country. Get banks out of the money creation racket that a sold out Congress gives to them.

    • Agree: Ondra Hada
  162. Spanky says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    We agree…

    Question is, did the founders specifically intend that our consent to governance could not be withdrawn politically? If so, that means that the only way to withdraw our consent is by bearing arms against the current sitting government — rebellion. It also implies that the system of governance they devised was intended to be dominated by a wealthy elite. That might seem doubtful given their immediate history overthrowing crown rule but, considering their social and financial status, perhaps not.

    Point is, rebellion absent a clear political determination of citizens’ intent beforehand is a recipe for disaster. Without arguing either the merits of such a rebellion or its probable outcome, the issue is simply this: How do citizens formally register our lack of confidence politically — revoke our consent to be governed — in the present sitting government or one being formed by newly elected officials?

    This is simply a political question, not rebellion, rooted in the philosophical concept of and public belief in the legitimacy of our government being based on the consent of those it governs. And again, it must be emphasized, that for our consent to have meaning it must not only be freely given, but just as freely withdrawn as well.

    The critical point is that most Americans believe this to be true — the legitimacy of their government is directly tied to their consent which is expressed by voting.

    So, how do we prove to the vast majority of Americans that their cherished belief in the myth of democracy is exactly that, a myth, and that their consent, which underlies the entirety of Constitutional governance, matters not?

  163. Mefobills says:
    @Ondra Hada

    FIAT money coming from the Federal Reserve would be BETTER than what we have now. Right now people don’t know where to aim their guns, because it isn’t at your local Wells Fargo loan officer.

    That is some advanced thinking. Even genius level people like PCR, Hudson, or Richard Werner have not leaped to that conclusion. Congratulations.

    A sovereign money system has a monetary authority. It is a fourth branch of government that issues sovereign money in the form of loans or debt free money. The money type and channeling is controlled scientifically to match goods and services. This is the only head-water for money creation.

    This central location is where you can aim your gun.

  164. @Spanky

    Without taking back information and media control. Nothing would happen, can be done. A truly independent press is the true check on the political class. An informed populace would be in the perfect position to give or withdraw consent. Even rebellion if needed.

    Narrative control must be broken for any chance of change. Or for consent to matter, for accountability to matter.

    There is no need for an armed rebellion if corrupt officials can be held accountable via investigative journalism. Imagine not having to wait for the next election but immediate arrest + trial of an exposed corrupt politician with hard evidence. Imagine those 12 senators going to jail for selling their stocks while telling Americans everything is OK, the virus is fake.

    A truly free press is paramount. It is the number one issue imo. Everything can be fixed through it. Free press and free speech needs to taken back yesterday. A silenced populace are just sheeps to the slaughter.

    That is how. That is where it starts. Information and narrative control is everything.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  165. Rather than doubling down on his white and male working class base…

    Baristas and unemployed poets and “activists” are “working class”?

    illiberal, racial-exterminationist Israel

    Outnumbered 445-7, they’ve got a lot of exterminating to do. That is even more uphill than the Haifa subway.

    abolishing the 2nd Amendment

    Allowing the common man to own weapons of war? That is the single most libertarian provision in any of the world’s constitutions, and everyone else thinks we’re anarchistic lunatics for keeping it. You could be a little more gentle on libertarians, as you seem to be one yourself on this single issue.

    Besides, the Second doesn’t apply to the states unless the Fourteenth is valid. Do you really want to concede that?

    …to combine nationalism with socialism, as has always been the true heritage of white populism.

    Because we all want to drive Trabis. Right.

    • Replies: @Alden
  166. Spanky says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    It’s just my opinion, but mainstream media’s narrative control seems less than perfect of late, if not failing rapidly. This is reflected in the need to censor, outright, dominate social media platforms in an attempt to eliminate subversive wrong-thinking. If the mainstream had control as absolute as you postulate such thinly veiled (violations of community guidelines and terms of service) censorship would not be necessary. At any rate, many people already know those in control of the dominate forms of media do not represent their interests.

    And investigative journalism was always subject to publisher / editor bias and control. In other words, while it might have been great at one media company (the Philly Enquirer being one such example, albeit years ago) it was often poor or non-exisitant at another.

    In any case, while we do agree that a free press is highly desirable, relying on a few large private media corporations has proven that those companies respond to and serve their owners’ interests, not those of the general public. It reminds of Katherine Graham’s comment when asked about the role of the Washington Post in the 1980s — To maintain confidence in government. Quite a change from the heady days of Watergate.

    And while we agree that if government officials were held accountable, none of this speculation would even be necessary, the simple fact is that they are not held accountable by either the press or law enforcement. (It’s just a thought, but if rooting out official corruption is the goal, wouldn’t the prudent thing to do be re-tasking the FBI with solely investigating violations of the public trust by elected officials?)

    So the situation we find ourselves in is, as you quite rightly pointed out, an oligarchy posing as a democratic republic. The free press is ruled by those same oligarchs which renders it not only useless, but a potent propaganda threat. Yet here we are, discussing that very subject despite their best efforts to prevent it.

    To be perfectly clear, I do not desire or advocate armed rebellion. But I do advocate finding and popularizing a means for citizens to express their lack of confidence in government politically, if they so choose. A means by which both the people and the government can see unambiguously the absolute number of citizens whom no longer consent to that governance.

    And since a voting booth is where our consent is given, it should also be where our consent can be withheld.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  167. @Spanky

    A truly free press would not be privately owned by a few oligarchs. It would be a 100% transparent organ disseminating information to the public, funded by tax dollars. This funding would be set in a way no govt official can touch it. It would not be for profit. Zero private interest. Zero govt interference. 100% transparent.

    It doesn’t need to be complete 100% control. 80% is enough. The rest can be easily censored or labeled as conspiracy theorists. So it might as well be 100% control at that point. Look at how many alternative news sources were killed off the last few years? YouTube comments has massive auto censor baked in. Even 4chan, the wildest of all dark nets was taken over. Reddit is filled with bots to promote the narrative. Facebook doesn’t even need to be commented on.

    Imagine the power investigative journalism would have when not beholden to any special interests but the public.

    This website is literally the last bastion of free press and speech. That was a bad point on your part.

    The FBI is part of the govt. I don’t trust anyone or anything to investigate it self.

    But what does withholding consent at the voting booth do? Nothing. It is a winner takes all system. You absentee vote would be counted as consent to the winner.

    What comes after the citizens express their lack of confidence in the govt? The politicians simply don’t care. How many times now has there been over whelming public outcry against certain laws, but senators still passed or try to pass them?

    The voting booth is not working. Since every politician is the same. Trading an old poison for a new one is not going to work.

    I also agree that armed rebellion is not the answer. Never gonna work anyway, as the groups would just be quietly killed off. There is total surveillance.

    Mob rule still works. As long as the mob have access to information. Hence the need for true free press.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Spanky
  168. Alden says:
    @anon

    One child meant one child. The state didn’t pay any kind of child benefit for first child or any children at the time.

  169. Alden says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    So what do Protestants of the 18,000 various sects vote for? The black Protestants vote for gimme gimme gimme. Episcopals vote for gay marriage. Lutherans are in a coalition with Catholics to scam a lot of government money for African Muslim settlement in America.

    What do the other Protestants vote for?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  170. @Spanky

    We can dramatically change the Constitution by amendment and by a Constitutional convention.

    We can also turn our government into a “parliamentary”form of government by preventing all Presidential candidates from getting 270 electoral college votes. That happened numerous times in the early history of our country. Sanders, had he desired in 2016 probably could have pulled in enough votes as an independent to prevent Trump from getting 270 votes. If he had done that, then the House would have picked the President and would have had to choose between Trump, Clinton and Sanders. Clinton probably would have won. And the Senate would have had to choose between the top two VP vote getters.

    It could happen this time. All Sanders and Biden need to do is agree to have Sanders run against Trump in states where Sanders has the best chance and Biden run against Trump where Biden has the best chance. Their odds of beating Trump would be much higher. The House would probably still pick Biden, but given Biden’s mental state it might be smarter to pick Sanders to prevent a Senate picked VP from becoming President.

    If the strategy was just to prevent one Presidential candidate from getting 270 votes in the EC, we would have an entirely different government.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  171. @Alden

    I notice you left out Presbyterians, which is the denomination of my youth, before I became atheist in my late teens and boycotted church for the rest of my days.

    So I really don’t know what Protestants want as a group. They are like herding cats. Protestants have never had anything like a network, which both Catholics and Jews have.

    But they all tend to vote their “conscience” which is often likely not to be in their financial self interest. And since they have no network, their vote is split all over the place, including not voting at all.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Truth3
  172. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “ This funding would be set in a way no govt official can touch it. ”

    ROTFLMFAO

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  173. Rubricate says:

    May I suggest #CaptBrettCrozierForPOTUS …. Seems he’s the only Skipper in good standing (on earned sea-legs), among the ‘tars’ of America’s big-Pond, boat-crews..! & he needs new command..!

  174. Voltara says:

    Windbag Bernie, the candidate who could talk undergraduate bullshit all day about fighting against the evils of capitalism but was revealed to be too piss-weak to throw a single punch when the time came to fight. He sold out his supporters a second time. A total fraud and symptomatic of everything wrong with the intellectual left

    • Agree: Wielgus, AnonFromTN
  175. @Anonymous

    Imagine a politician trying to take away gun rights.

    Imagine true free press having even more supporters than gun rights.

    I really don’t want to have to detail every single idea of mine. If too stupid, don’t reply.

    And get some balls n create an anon handle, pussy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  176. Hibernian says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    Protestants have never had anything like a network, which both Catholics and Jews have.

    I submit that’s kind of questionable, at least with that “anything like that.”

    Catholic networks: The Catholic Church, The Knights of Columbus (to which I belong and one Grandfather and one Great Uncle belonged), urban political machines (said Grandfather was a precinct captain), and the Mob.

    Protestant networks: Skull and Bones, The Ivy League, The World and National Councils of Churches, The Episcopal Church, and other Mainline denominations.

    Jewish networks: An exercise left for the student. I don’t think they’re as extensive as some other people think they are.

    The grain of truth in your statement above is that the Protestant community doesn’t have anything as centralized as the Catholic Church, and, with the exception of Skull and Bones and similar groups, Protestant networks are perhaps not as secretive as Jewish ones.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    , @davidgmillsatty
  177. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    ROTFLMFAO

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  178. Getaclue says:
    @nickels

    “black lives fatter” LOL…this was good too– “The true “woke” candidate was Warren, and she got the affluent feminist nutcase vote.” — so descriptive yet true….

  179. Getaclue says:
    @Hibernian

    The Masons (Communists also but most are both) infiltrated the Catholic Church long ago and even trashed the Traditional Latin Mass for the Masonic Archbishop Bugnini Novus Ordo Mass during the Masonic infiltrated Vatican 2 “reforms” that were aimed at destroying the Church from inside where trying from outside had not worked for Satanic aligned forces for nearly 2,000 years — we are seeing the final play of all this now with Bergolio and his sycophants (mostly homos) in the Vatican and his attempts to just make the Catholic Church into a Soros’ NWO NGO pro-homoglobo org with him the head of some Protestant/Islamic “one world religion” thing no one but the “Elites” want– what’s “centralized” is not the Catholic Church anymore but that thing — the actual true Catholic Church is to be found in the places where the Traditional Latin Mass exists and the Traditions of the Catholic Church are honored– not in the pro-homo/Masonic NWO Vatican these days….lots of Chastisements upon us all now (post Pachamama Idol Worship last October at the Vatican) due to this and at the end of these– the true Catholic Church will be fully restored and all these Masons/Communist/homo infiltrators converted or gone to their Eternal “reward”…..

  180. Spanky says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Am not too sure where you’re going with this, because what you advocate is a press funded and controlled by government. Who chooses management and editorial staff? Is it a centralized, nationwide system or locally controlled? I know you say funded by tax dollars, but not controlled by government — how does that work?

    Isn’t this how (taxpayer funded, no government control) the public broadcasting system is supposed to work? How did it turn out? And if the press you envision is supported by tax dollars (effectively making it an arm of government), how interested might it be in investigating politicians or other government malfeasance? More or less so than a repurposed FBI?

    Moreover, censor whom exactly? And why? How does censorship fit into a free press? Under your conditions, UR ought be labelled a conspiracy site and/or censored because it’s privately owned (not to mention the actual conspiracy theories often expressed here, at least from an official USG standpoint).

    It’s interesting that you see no utility whatsoever for an ordinary citizen to officially say fuck you to all politicians campaigning for office by withholding their consent at the polls.

    I’ve periodically floated this idea (or another similar one — None of the Above) over the last thirty or so years to see what people think, but must admit one of my political mentors was right and I wrong — Americans are very well conditioned to the elite’s two-party, zero-sum, winner-take-all electoral contests. So much so, it seems, that few ever think outside their heads we win, tails you lose box.

    Pity. We agree that voting for the lesser of two elite-approved evils is not working and needs to change. We need something, an idea, that both unites us and directly, publicly and politically challenges the legitimacy of their corrupt governance.

    Suggestions…?

  181. Spanky says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    A small, organized minority can easily rule an unorganized majority in a democratic system.

    You seriously underestimate, politically, what we’d be up against in a Constitutional Convention. Say what you will about the elite, but you must respect them. They’re smart, well organized and financed, and committed. Any Constitutional Convention would be extremely dangerous for us absent a purge of US elites on par with that which occurred during the French Revolution. And even then…

    No comment on your campaign strategy — as far as the elite are concerned, that’s still a heads we win, tails you lose proposition.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  182. Nuncle says:
    @Just another serf

    Comment contains no actual information about Striker that would discredit his views. I listen to quite a few TRS podcasts and yet I have no idea what the ‘TRS Corona doomsday cult’ means.

  183. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Spanky

    Exactly. A government-controlled press cannot be free and independent. The guy’s a moron.

  184. @Hibernian

    What a laugher.

    The Ivy League. I would certainly not call the Ivy League Protestant any longer. And since Skull and Bones is from one of the Ivy League schools, it too is probably headed for the dustbin of history in the not too distant future. The Ivy League certainly does not have a curriculum that would even imply that it is Protestant. They all go to great lengths to promote secular agendas. And they are not funded by Protestant churches at all.

    Trying to get the mainline protestants to agree on the time a day is a major achievement. The Episcopal Church, the Lutheran Church, the Presbyterian Church — the more liberal churches of mainline Protestantism — have been in such decline for the last 30 years or so, it is doubtful they will continue to exist another thirty years.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  185. @Spanky

    Everyone fears a Constitutional Convention; that is why we haven’t had one. Even the elite fear a Constitutional Convention.

    As for amending the Constitution, we haven’t had a major amendment in my lifetime and I will turn 70 in August. But again that is not the Constitution’s fault.

    And Congress hasn’t picked a President and Vice President since the early eighteen hundreds. But that is not the Constitution’s fault either.

    Everyone fears that such a change would not serve their interests so they don’t use the tools that the framers left them to use.

    Why would any new government be any different?

    • Replies: @Spanky
  186. Hibernian says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    The Protestant network isn’t what it used to be. Neither is the Catholic network. The K of C I belong to is a pale shadow of the one my Grandfather belonged to. Liberal priests and laity, who are predominant, patronize us at best. Despite being led by a priest, Notre Dame is no more Catholic than Yale is Protestant. (Please note the “at most one God” Ivy League Divinity Schools. They’re scandalous. So is Notre Dame.) The political machine in Chicago is led by a Black woman who I believe is not Catholic, although she once taught at a Catholic school.

  187. Spanky says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    We, the people that is, cannot even elect candidates to Congress and the Presidency whom represent our best interests — how would we fare electing delegates to a Constitutional Convention?

    A small, organized minority can easily rule an unorganized majority in a democratic system.

    I do support a Constitutional Amendment, however, to place a binding None of the Above choice on the ballot in each federal race. This would allow voters to reject all candidates for an office when they think none represents their interests. And, by refusing to vote for any candidate for all federal offices, such a measure could also serve as a means for withholding one’s consent.

    Again, our consent is the key — in order for our individual and aggregate consent to be meaningful, we must be able to withhold it by the same means as which we grant it — on the ballot.

    Now please explain why, if a large minority citizens, with public and deliberate intent to withhold their consent, tendered blank ballots in the next election (i.e.: without selecting any candidate for any office), that it would not be considered a watershed political event even if not considered legal by the government itself?

    Considering our myths of democracy — how would such an uprising by citizens not be seen as a direct challenge to government legitimacy?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  188. Sanders just endorsed corrupt and senile Biden. Whoever thought that Sanders is not a piece of shit should think again.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  189. @Spanky

    No govt control. Just funded by tax payers. A permanent funding.

    Why must it be controlled by the govt?

    The editors and journalists can write anything as long as it is true. The news articles must be the truth, nothing but. No limits other wise. They are given 100% free reign on whatever they write, zero govt oversight. The founding would be a permanent part of the annual budget that no politician can take away in that scenario. It would not be up for discussion or approval by Congress.

    As for incentives. Taking down politicians, businesses or other untruthful journalists would garner fame follow by fortune. Hell, could even set bounties for exposing corrupt politicians, journalists (yes, even themselves) or bad/evil businesses practices. Imagine 200 million book deals for famous journalists instead of retarded Hillary or Obama.

    News is news, OP Ed needs to be completely separated. Unz review would become an op Ed. Op Ed will have no limits but clearly defined, labeled and have zero space on circulated big msm. They 100% cannot be called news.

    I personally think opinionated news should be a crime as that is how narrative control works. But I love opinionated articles that is not part of the news. That is where the masses can voice their opinions after reading the news. Also serves as another check on journalists. I can go into more details but I think it is enough.

    Winner takes all can easily be changed once real news start feeding the public new ideas instead of kardashians. That is the only way for change to occur, to break the condition. The newspapers and TV are powerful tools despite the internet. Boomers would need to die off for them to lose effectiveness. FBI can do one thing. Hunt down bot operators. They are the bain of any serious discussion.

    Only way for voters consent to matter is for a mechanism to quickly pull a politician out of office once consent is withdrawn. That is the only way to hold them accountable. Making them honest.
    Something like a no confidence vote that can be initiated by the voters, not by politicians. It also fits your consent at the voting booths idea. This part of the topic I haven’t put much thought into, just spic balling. And it is a huge topic. I just think a truly free press = a constant check on politicians. Voter initiated no confidence vote. FBI and police investigations after an exposé in the news. Actual jail terms once found guilty, complete confiscation of their wealth if bribes etc. Just ideas floating in my head right now.

    In the current winner takes all voting scheme, absentee voters still gives consent to the winner. There no way whatsoever to take away consent. Hell, I bet the wet dreams of politicians are voters who hate them don’t show up to vote. What is the percentage of voters who showed up to vote in the last presidential election? Never broke more than 60%. Approval rating for Congress is like 10 to 15%?

    About censorship, I think you read it wrong. That was commentary on the current so called “news”. Hope that helps. I would never advocate censorship on real, truthful news, no matter how disruptive.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Spanky
  190. @Spanky

    It might be a watershed moment but candidates will still be elected. If a candidate gets one vote and nobody else gets any, he wins.

    We have gone from democracy to oligarchy and oligarchies may be the worst form of government. I don’t know where we go from here but the future does not look good.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  191. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “ The editors and journalists can write anything as long as it is true. ”

    ROTFLMFAO

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  192. @AnonFromTN

    Trump’s second term is already set in steel the moment Andrew yang was out of the race.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  193. Spanky says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    It might be a watershed moment but candidates will still be elected. If a candidate gets one vote and nobody else gets any, he wins. — davidgmillsatty

    True… But that narrow legal interpretation completely ignores the political dimension. If one vote, out of an entire electorate, elects an otherwise unpopular candidate because everyone else withheld their vote for precisely that reason, how legitimate can his rule be?

    This is a political question, not a legal one — it attacks the legitimacy of governance.

    How will that electorate react when their new leader issues an order? The police? Military? How will foreign governments view his leadership — does he speak for all or just one? This is the point.

    Consider, for example, the #metoo movement (astroturf as it may be). Many complaints lodged under the #metoo hashtag are well beyond the statue of limitations for any crime alleged committed. Nevertheless, what has been those accusations’ political effect?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  194. @Astuteobservor II

    I’d be surprised if Trump won’t be able to beat a corrupt and senile opponent. However, my rule is, never underestimate the stupidity of the people.

    • Replies: @Spanky
    , @Astuteobservor II
  195. Spanky says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    … This part of the topic [consent of the governed] I haven’t put much thought into… — Astuteobservor II

    I noticed. It’s an old political trick — answering a different question than the one actually posed. It changes the focus of the discussion to what you want to talk about. It’s been… interesting.

    Only way for voters consent to matter is for a mechanism to quickly pull a politician out of office once consent is withdrawn. That is the only way to hold them accountable. — Astuteobservor II

    Which is the point of using the ballot box, since the political parties and media are elite owned, it gives voters a means to reject their lesser-of-two-evils candidates for cause. The point is to attack (and if possible break) elite dominance politically at the ballot box.

    Something like a no confidence vote that can be initiated by the voters, not by politicians.

    In the current winner takes all voting scheme, absentee voters [citizens who do not vote] still gives consent to the winner. There no way whatsoever to take away consent. Hell, I bet the wet dreams of politicians are voters who hate them don’t show up to vote. — Astuteobservor II

    That’s exactly the point we’re trying to address. See comment #200 to davidgmillsatty (should be immediately above this one).

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  196. Spanky says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Good rule… Do you think Trump’s bailout (and the Fed’s market interventions) of banks, corporations, hedge funds — all the usual suspects — will hurt or help his chances?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  197. @Spanky

    The ballot box doesn’t do anything, have the ability to change anything in its current form.

    Comment 200 doesn’t address anything though. It reads like naivete. It is legitimate because there was a vote, there was an election. His example might be the most extreme case but it is still how winner takes all works. You reasoned that by not voting = not showing consent. But that doesn’t work in the winner takes all voting system. It also doesn’t do anything. You just wasted your right to vote. And if you want to change it, guess what, you will need the help of the MSM.

    About legitimacy. They won the election. The politicians now represent us, the voters. That is the current system. That is legitimacy. Voter turn out even for presidential elections nevers gets above 60%. Were there, are there any questions regarding the legitimacy of these elections? Congress can run this country with less than 15% approval rating. Where is the legitimacy in this?

    If police doesn’t enforce laws you get civil chaos. If the military brass stop following orders you get coups. Both would never happen in the current system.

    You might have something if less than 20% shows up at the voting booth, but you would need the help of MSM for that.

    The #meetoo movement had the help of MSM. It also didn’t affect anyone important, just some Hollywood predators. Pizzagate had the direct opposite of help, and the targets have power. Nothing came of it.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  198. @AnonFromTN

    I am sure because zombiden has zero support amongst the young voters of the blue side.

    Trump just needs to hold firm, do the same shit, that’s it.

    I honestly think it will be an easier election than Obama’s first race after bush jr.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  199. Spanky says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    LOL… Reads like naiveté? Perhaps it does.

    And considering your multiple comments regarding a free press funded, but not controlled, by government while censoring private news sources, you would know. Perhaps you ought reconsider, carefully, both what you advocate, and dismiss, without any serious thought.

    Maybe my mistake is assuming people are fed up with elite rule and smart enough to re-think their electoral choices. But then again, we are all products of years of elite propaganda and conditioning. You’ve proven it is effective.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  200. @Spanky

    I’ve never advocated censoring private news sources. Please clarify. Do you mean not allowing private ownership of msm? They will simply become opinions, which they would be in the scenario I concocted in my last few comments in this thread. Imagine the funding to even be above the bill of rights in importance. Once in place and matured, no one can touch it.

    I think you misunderstood my position. I believe there would be zero change no matter how you vote or not vote in the current system. You still believe in the current system whilst I don’t. You believe the current system can be changed through voting, I don’t.

    I want the power of a truly free press to feed the mob with the information and the will to change the current system. That is it.

    It has been good talking to you. Spit balling ideas around is always good for the brain. There is no harm in disagreement 😁.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  201. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “ Imagine the funding to even be above the bill of rights in importance. Once in place and matured, no one can touch it.”

    ROTFLMFAO

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  202. @Spanky

    By rights, this, as well as the previous massive tax cut for the usual suspects, should kill his chances. However, there are two factors acting in Trump’s favor. One, Giuliani brought from Ukraine a lot of documentary evidence of Biden corruption. Most likely this evidence also implicates many other prominent Dems: as soon as the US administration figured that a piece of shit cannot serve as the battering ram, the whole Ukraine operation became a major money laundering scheme under Obama. But Trump’s campaign must be smart enough to release this evidence in small installments every week for ~ 2 months before the elections. You need to do it that way, as the attention span of an average American voter is about 30 seconds, and memory retention is not much better than that of gold fish. If Trump plays his cards right, Biden and other Dems are toast. Two, a lot of Americans, due to national libertarian delirium, approve of cutting taxes for the fattest cats and of Fed actions that give uncounted billions to the richest people and a few hundred bucks to the average Joe. Like I said above, do not underestimate the stupidity of the people. This includes American voters.

    • Thanks: Spanky
  203. @Astuteobservor II

    You might be right. However, my fear is that demented voters, which constitute the majority in the US, would choose demented candidate. We’d make history then: elect the first clinically senile POTUS.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  204. Now Obama endorsed senile Joe. Senile and corrupt party will have a senile and corrupt nominee. How fitting.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  205. @AnonFromTN

    It is just party politics. Nothing new.

  206. @Spanky

    In an oligarchy does it matter? I don’t think it makes a difference anymore whether they have your consent or not.

    Right now they are still going through the motions.

    In the future they will not bother with that.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Spanky
  207. @davidgmillsatty

    Right now they are still going through the motions.
    In the future they will not bother with that.

    The USSR went through the motions till the end. My prediction is, they’d also go through the motions until they run the US into the ground, like Soviet elites did the USSR. BTW, compared to Biden, Soviet Politburo was a youth club.

  208. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, baristas are working class in that they earn low wages, usually minimum wage. So are virtually all restaurant and retail workers, even union supermarket workers, the waiters in very high end restaurants and Saks, Magnins, Niemans clerks who make decent base wage plus overtime, weekend differential and big, big commissions on those expensive clothes.

    All working class, from illegal $100 a week dishwashers who work 90 hours a week to 100K a year big city bus drivers, 150K maitre’des and 80K a year Saks Nieman Magnins clerk’s.

  209. Spanky says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    I don’t think it makes a difference anymore whether they have your consent or not. — davidgmillsatty

    Well, that question requires both a yes and a no answer actually.

    Ruling people effectively (that is to say both productively and peacefully) requires their belief in the ruler’s system of governance. Consider, for example, the divine right of kings — there is no divine right, of course, just feudal governance with a man (the king) as its figurehead who requires support from local rulers (nobles) to rule.

    In every belief system there must be something tangible, a ritual, to give those beliefs form and substance. Continuing the above example, the Church ordained, coronated, each new king confirming that belief in his divine right to rule.

    In our case, we have a myth of democratic self-rule underpinned by belief in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence. Our ritual is the biennial trip to the voting booth to elect representatives — this ritual confirms our belief in the myth that we the people are self-governing.

    For example, above I had a long conversation with another poster. He claimed that voting is ineffective, useless, but in concurrent replies to another commenter he clearly prefers one candidate over another. In truth neither candidate represents his interests but, despite his protestations to the contrary, he still believes voting matters — why else would he advocate one candidate over another?

    The point is, although it does not matter if our rulers have our consent or not (there is, after all, no effective means to withhold or revoke your consent which renders it meaningless), continued belief in the myth requires its rituals be observed. If elections were to stop, it would become immediately obvious that the US is not ruled of, by and for the people… Then what happens? Belief is a double-edged sword.

    This is the Catch-22 in which we, and our rulers, find ourselves — we cannot effect change by voting because they dominate both parties and the media, but they cannot end the ritual else their charade becomes obvious. To continue ruling peacefully and productively they must maintain popular belief in democratic self-rule — they won’t end it because they cannot.

    The point I’m trying to make is that we can use this Catch-22 to our advantage.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  210. @Spanky

    Just FYI, I prefer Andrew Yang.

    Orange Trump will win because zombiden has no chance. This is not a preference but my own observation.

  211. @Dube

    Obama has endorsed Biden:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-endorse-biden/story?id=70139892

    Question now is, which African or pretend-moderate woman will Biden pick as Veep?

    Or will Biden decline even more noticeably and give the DNC an excuse to pick cuomo or some other blown-up Governor?

  212. @Kim

    Thank you. You’re much more realistic about our planet’s and country’s finite and generally diminishing resources than our rulers and 80-90% of our population.

    Certainly the USA should prohibit further exports of WATER, oil, natural gas, metals and minerals. We should start keeping crucial natural resources here.

    (Also impose a hefty fed excise tax on remittances of cash to recipients outside the country.)

    Next, obviously stop importing tens of millions more people to compete for scarce jobs and resources. Deport both legal and illegal noncitizens, close the southern border with troops and a serious wall and minefield, and end both birthright citizenship and chain migration.

    Then, stop subsidizing procreation by poor and chronically unemployed people. Offer large financial incentives for voluntary sterilization by people below, say, twice the federal poverty line. This is a facially race-neutral criterion that should lead to fewer births of people who are much likelier to inflict violence, theft, and fear on others while being unproductive and consuming resources.

  213. @Spanky

    Agree that we need a NOTA option in all elections.

    Not voting out of principle sends no clear message. It cannot reliably be distinguished from mere apathy and laziness.

    • Agree: Spanky
  214. Truth3 says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    David G Mills, Esq. was either a Jew that became an atheist, or an atheist that converted to Judaism.

    He networks all right. Kosher Koffe Klatch style.

    Oh yeah, he also likes money (mammon), a lot. Read his posts.

    Not practicimg is sometimes a euphemism for attorneys for… disbarred.

    Accused of money laundering, perhaps? Tax fraud?

    Ad Hominem enough for you, asshole?

  215. Bernie is the perfect example of the politburo type ruling class parasite.
    He has NEVER held a job where the paycheck relied on productivity of any kind. He has been sucking at the government teat for decades and has lined his roost well with the feathers stolen form the taxpayer chickens.
    Three mansions? And not one spare bed for an illegal immigrant?
    And his thefty wife, she has been implicated in the embezzlement of millions, perfect example of leftist ideology completed. All for me and none for thee.

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