Pakistan is the world’s most important Muslim nation. It has 251 million people, nuclear weapons, the world’s sixth largest armed forces, intelligent, capable people, vast lands and major sources of water.
Yet Pakistan is a giant mess. Its current politics are a form of tribal warfare. Corruption engulfs almost everything. Disease, particularly diabetes, afflicts its long-suffering people. Polio is making return.
In recent years, Pakistan has suffered vast floods that have ravaged this nation. Equally menacing, next-door India remains an ever-present danger. Far-right Hindu extremists who are heavily represented in the current Modi government, keep talking about ‘reabsorbing’ Pakistan into ‘Mother India.’ This would have happened long ago except for Pakistan’s important nuclear arsenal and delivery systems.
India has also built an extensive nuclear arsenal, including three new submarines armed with intermediate-ranged nuclear missiles. This while people in India and Pakistan starve in the streets. And 60% of homes in India lack indoor plumbing.
The only institution in Pakistan that really works well is the armed forces. I have met many of its generals: most of them are intelligent, combat-ready officers. I knew Gen. Akhtar Abdur Rahman Khan, the ferocious chief of ISI intelligence service who led the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan. He was murdered with the tough tank general Zia ul Haq who ruled Pakistan until his aircraft was sabotaged in 1988. Zia was a great Islamic warrior and man of steel. Many Pakistanis still believe he was assassinated by the US though there is no direct evidence.
I was friends with the late Benazir Bhutto, a fascinating and alluring woman who was murdered in 2007. I interviewed Gen. Pervez Musharraf in 1999, a man who seemed insignificant compared to Gen. Zia.
Benazir Bhutto, whose father Zulfikar was ordered hanged by Zia, used to tease me, ‘oh Eric, you love your Pakistani generals.’ I did. Most were fierce Pashtuns from the NW Frontier, born warriors. They first defeated the Soviet Union, then the mighty USA.
I also took to some of the Indian generals that I met. They and their Pakistani counterparts had none of the slipperiness and deceit of most politicians.
This brings me to the jailed, 51-year-old former cricket star, Imran Khan, Pakistan’s most popular political figure. Khan was jailed on fake charges over receiving gifts, when the ruling oligarchy feared Khan would win a landslide in elections. His wife was also thrown into prison.
Imran Khan’s chief enemies were the Sharif brothers, Shebhaz and Nawaz. Both were rich Punjabi industrialists often accused of egregious corruption. I came out of war-torn Afghanistan to interview Nawaz. He left me unimpressed, particularly after the time I spent with the fiery General Zia.
The United States and Britain, vocal champions of democracy, had nothing to say about the illegal imprisonment of Pakistan’s most popular democratic politician. It was clear they were supporting the Sharif brothers who were more amenable to America’s wishes and anti-Islamic policies. Pakistan’s influential army appears to be backing the Sharif regime.
This is interesting. Washington, which makes so much noise about democracy, is now supporting undemocratic regimes in Morocco, Tunisia, totalitarian Egypt, Jordan, Oman, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the Gulf, not to mention Africa and Latin America. The CIA installed the current Ukrainian regimes. Efforts are again afoot to overthrow the Assad regime in Syria and, of course, to crush the life out of Palestinians.
What Washington really wants around the globe is total obedience, not real democracy. Pakistan is a sad example. President Pervez Musharraf told me that a senior State Department official warned him that if Pakistan did not allow US troops to use his nation to attack Taliban-ruled Afghanistan ‘we will bomb you back to the Stone Age.’
Great powers want to have their way. Democracy and common sense too often do not stand in the way. At least the new Trump administration in Washington is being brutally frank about its wants and needs unlike the honey-tongued hypocrites of the Biden years.

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Another barely coherent piece from Margolis. More likely the ramblings of an old hack.
Yet Pakistan is a giant mess.
Ok we’ll accept your word for it.
In recent years, Pakistan has suffered vast floods that have ravaged this nation. Equally menacing, next-door India remains an ever-present danger. Far-right Hindu extremists who are heavily represented in the current Modi government, keep talking about ‘reabsorbing’ Pakistan into ‘Mother India.’ This would have happened long ago except for Pakistan’s important nuclear arsenal and delivery systems.
I don’t see any evidence that India wants to “reabsorb” Pakistan. Why would they want to incorporate a “giant mess” ? The bloviation from various radical Hinduists is precisely that – hot air. Nor would this have happened “long ago”, but for Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.
The partition of India resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, more likely several million.
Any attempt by India to “reabsorb” Pakistan will be even bloodier, with or without nuclear weapons. The conflict would be prolonged, the damage to India’s economy severe and the domestic opposition to the war would be intense. In the unlikely event of the incorporation of Pakistan into India, the consequence would be widespread guerilla warfare by the conquered.
The India Government knows this, unlike old hack Margolis.
“Pakistan is filled with intelligent and capable people”…
“Pakistan is a giant mess”……
Margolis is the master of contradiction.
No country where cousin marriage is the norm has ever managed to create a prosperous nation based on rule of law. Their loyalties are towards their extended families only. State structures are just a façade. Obedience (to laws) is absent only complicity (to relatives) is there. A few organisations based on harsh discipline do not alter the society at large.
Imagine their nukes!
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“Pakistan is filled with intelligent and capable people”…
“Pakistan is a giant mess”…
Fine. Either way, so long as they stay put there, and don’t come here.
Oh, wait….
This is really a silly comment.
Imran Khan is a sight older than 51.
Every single Pakistani desperately wants to emigrate to Europe or north America.
Soon there will be 400 million of them.
You.Have.Been.Warned.
The Fast And The Furious Pakistan. Sand casting homemade aluminium care tyre rims:
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Pakistan has so far been on the wrong path, but it seems to be opening its eyes and if it learns to manage its nuclear weapons it will have the opportunity to build its own future.
Great analysis.
Who controls Washington is who controls Pakistan
It is now obvious to one and all that Washington is controlled by our fake Jewish Friends
It isn’t average Americans that want to meddle in Asian affairs
Regardless
It is my theory that the slave revolt in Gaza is inspiring peaceful people around the world to become more courageous and forceful against the fake Jews who control their respective countries
One example is Bangladesh
There, recently the citizens successfully forced the corrupt, traitorous long-time ruler Sheikh Hasina to flee to India (you don’t see that happen every day)
This event, I suspect is influencing the citizen’s thinking in Pakistan
Maybe it’s a long shot, but the 10/7 game-changing slave revolt could be the inspiration for a worldwide new “Enlightenment” against injustice and rule by thugs
Well see.
As per your description, Pakistan is basically the US.
What is not obvious here?
To play a Devil’s advocate, you can be filled with intelligent and capable people and still be a giant mess. One does not preclude the other-visitors to Pakistan notice this quite often (I noticed this)-very capable, rational, intelligent people in charge, a beautiful even one can say a truly magnificent, subtle culture and lots of incredibly intelligent, capable, rational, intelligent people sprinkled throughout society but yes indeed Pakistan is a one big, big mess.
The vast majority of Pakistanis would actually agree with this.
An equivalent would be the US or Western Europe (of course not in the same league at this point in time but as time goes on…and on…)-again very intelligent people in charge but the beginning of a giant mess-Of course, at this point in time, the US and Western Europe are not at an Pakistani level but time continues on and on…
Pakistan should follow India’s example, a budding space program will also put them on the map and they too can become the next super power. Astronauts can replace cricket hero’s and all earthly care will be thrown to the wind. Hey, even a joint space program with India would work wonders, we’re going to Jupiter!
Looks to me like they are quite capable. And not a government inspector in sight!
There’s a collective genius at work here, great sound track too.
Hats off to them.
“Pakistan should follow India’s example, a budding space program will also put them on the map and they too can become the next super power. Astronauts can replace cricket hero’s and all earthly care will be thrown to the wind. Hey, even a joint space program with India would work wonders, we’re going to Jupiter!”
This just show how disillusioned the pajeets are. You people are too fucking stupid and primitive to even maintain what the British built for you. The British handed you a country and look how disgusting India is today.
Yes, born in 1952.
I was joking, could you not tell.
BTW I’m not Indian or Pakistani, so you’ll have to direct your insult elsewhere.
It’s amazing how Western Whites continue to push imaginary positive attributes on pajeets and their cultural subsidiary nations such as Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc, which leads me to imagining the number of White Americans who think Kash Patel for example is actually ‘America First’ and will somehow actually do his given job and miraculously ‘fix’ the FBI.
ANYONE name one fucking Indian or said derivative in the West who has A. Succeeded in a given role in any capacity and B. (you will be Houdini if you can pull this off) Name 1 pajeet or pajeeta who actually performed a role where their actions benefited the host nation
A lot of high ranking Paki name dropping going on here, Eric. As far as India goes, they’re both big boys and they both have nuclear weapons so let them work it out by themselves.
Pakistan has so far been on the wrong path, but it seems to be opening its eyes and if it learns to manage its nuclear weapons it will have the opportunity to build its own future.
Sure, just like the UK Pak gangs who have been sex trafficking White Brit girls exclusively for years will open their eyes.
Pakistan should follow India’s example, a budding space program will also put them on the map and they too can become the next super power.
Definitely super power material. Put money into building fucking rockets and satellites while the unwashed (literally) masses stay in abject poverty, hunger and disease in a ‘nation’ where even street beggars are organized into a business model of sheer usury and exploitation.
I would say about 97% of the Pakistani immigrants in Canada we could certainly do without.
Pakistan is yet anther example of the Malthusian catastrophe. No, it’s not a global apocalyptic famine, it’s crushing subsistence level poverty. Because the Pakistanis breed like rodents (oh pardon my French) but I don’t blame the Pakistanis, I blame globalist plutocrats like Elon Musk and intellectual whores like Milton Friedman and Juan Simon, screaming and howling that people MUST breed like rodents. There is no free choice without knowledge of the consequences.
So OF COURSE Pakistan is in a bad state. Most people are just one meal away from starving. How could this not be a bad condition to be in?
If we won’t accept this, then we might as well give up and go home.
KASH PATEL, DAY ONE: After careful study of the problems we are facing, I have concluded that the best way to reform the FBI is to immediately hire tens of thousands of new, fresh, Indian-immigrant FBI agents. As planned.
Once I saw a film on tv which was made by a German couple who were travelling withouth a car or paying tickets. They were taken by people that they met on the road. I don’t remember very much about the film. I think it was in Iran that they had met previously someone who told them that his family in Iran would be their hosts and so they were very well received in Iran. In Pakistan, the border police was enthusiastic about them and all of them wanted to take a photo at their side. Then they were escorted by the police and spent a night somewhere in the police building. They were also in India and apparently hated India. It seems to be the only place during their trip which they really disliked. They liked Pakistan very much and told the border police this when they left the country again. I myself don’t intend to visit any of those countries.
I guess my sarcasm was lost on you too.
As a refugee from the Trudeauian Kingdom of Canuckstania I definitively agree and I would state if we can do without the 97 percent we shouldn’t even bother bringing in the remain 3 percent. The same goes for the Chinese in Vancouver (well now everywhere in the TK of C not just Vancouver). One can admire a different country but it is a different country after all-it’s too, too different. Kipling (a lover of Subcontinental ways) said it best; “East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet”.
Apologies, as there are so many Whites licking chutney-scented ass that it’s hard to tell.
Muslims in undivided India faced significant partiality and discrimination under British rule. The British were already discriminating against, oppressing, exploiting, and enslaving the Hindus. So, one can imagine the condition of the Muslims. This partiality was worsened by Lord Mountbatten’s role as Viceroy. The first war between India and Pakistan, initiated by India, highlighted this treacherous bias, especially when the Indian Air Force Chief ordered the Pakistani Air Force not to enter the war (the chiefs of both air forces and their pilots were still British at the time).
Soon after, PM Liaquat Ali Khan was assassinated in what is suspected to have been a color revolution, marked by mob-instigated violence, possibly Western-promoted, leading to the imposition of military rule in Pakistan. The Kashmir plebiscite was not honored, and refugees who had been forcibly thrown out of Jammu by mobs of independent India were not allowed to return. Both Britain and the U.S. did nothing to address these injustices.
In 1962, President Kennedy forced Chief Martial Law Administrator Ayub Khan not to attack India (and reclaim Kashmir and repatriate the refugees), while China was grinding India into oblivion.
In 1971, the country was splintered into two parts, largely because of the collusion between Pakistan’s military and civilian leader, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. After the defeat in the 1971 war, no one was punished or court-martialed.
Pakistan was used by the U.S., with full participation from the military, judiciary, and media of Pakistan. The elite pocketed the money, and religion was introduced into every realm of society. After the Soviet withdrawal, Pakistan was relegated to pariah status. The U.S. sold F-16s but never delivered them. In 1998, India conducted its nuclear tests, but Pakistan faced sanctions for doing the same.
After 9/11, Pakistan was flooded with American money, troop movements, and terrorism. The country suffered, while the elite and military stole large portions of the aid, with many of them resettling in the West.
Despite this bleak and pathetic history of Western manipulation, hatred, violence, discrimination, and abuse, the citizens of what is now Pakistan have never questioned the path followed by the military and political elite. Despite the financial, political, religious, and economic abuse and oppression by the elite, the people never revolted against the dominance of the nepotistic, dynastic, and tribal elite.
Even after the loss of East Pakistan in 1971, neither the Pakistani military nor civilian political leaders have changed the economic and political policies in Balochistan that contributed to the 1971 crisis.
The country remains a swamp, managed by greedy, corrupt, and nepotistic barbarians who are willing to sell out the nation for a few sterling pounds or U.S. dollars. You’ll find their children and relatives in good numbers in Toronto (Canada), Birmingham (UK), Detroit (USA), and Chicago (USA).
While India is forging a new, strong identity, Pakistan is destroying its own identity and relevance. Pakistan constantly begs to be accepted by India, while India is talking about destroying and absorbing Pakistan.
Pakistan has become a monster. The threat it posed was a bluff, called by Nehru and Patel of the Indian Congress. Both nations have paid the price, but India has done better and will continue to improve. As for Pakistan? A doormat. It will always look for the next visitor to the neighborhood.
I hate to sound like Lyndon LaRouche, but here as with so many other problems around the world, much if not all of the blame can be laid at the feet of the British. As much good as the British Empire did in so many ways, it also (both on its own and in negotiations with other powers) drew borders all over the place that may have served London’s purposes at the time but set time bombs that would go off for generations and even centuries later.
Borders that slice through the homelands of people who would prefer to live together. Borders that loop together peoples who would prefer to live apart and often even murderously hate each other.
All around the world! “Iraq”, “South Africa”, “Canada”, “Belgium”, “Czechoslovakia”, “Yugoslavia”, more recently “Bosnia” and “Kosovo”, on and on.
(And that’s just border-drawing, not even counting when they would cause even more problems by carrying out ethnically transformative mass migration – bringing vast numbers of people from India into Fiji and Guyana, Scottish settlers into northern Ireland, etc etc)
Neither “Pakistan” nor “Afghanistan” should ever have been set up in the first place. Both are entirely artificial states.
Just take a look at “Pakistan”


And now “Afghanistan”
“Afghanistan” is nothing more than a long ago moot buffer zone between the long-gone British and Russian Empires. “Pakistan” was British pander / sop to a handful of Muslim ideologue troublemakers that has ended up causing far more problems than it solved or prevented.
We should have taken the opportunity after 9/11 to dismantle them both and set up more normal ethno-states in their wake.
Because this isn’t a matter of autistically wanting nice neat match-ups between the borders of states and the colored ethnic splotches.
A multi lingual, multi ethnic state in a Muslim area inevitably has to use Islam as its justification to exist and thus its core ideology. It certainly can’t use ethnic nationalism. Many, including “Afghanistan”, have tried to use Soviet-aligned socialism/communism, but that simply doesn’t “take” or put down lasting roots. Nor does Western-style liberal democracy seem able to become strong and stable there. So it’s Islam. That’s the basis on which “Pakistan” was explicitly founded in the first place anyway.
And THAT means that state is permanently vulnerable to going extreme Muslim, Islamist, pro-terrorist. Because, given the nature of Islam, its history, its Koran, its other widely-accepted texts and traditions, etc., it becomes difficult if not impossible for an Islamic regime to resist and refute extremist Islam. So now you’ve got a “sovereign” state that is a source of hijackers, bombers, etc. And when (like Pakistan) it gets nuclear weapons it becomes even more of a menace.
In the first few days and weeks after 9/11, Bush (and especially Cheney) were directly threatening Pakistan with war in their conversations with its leaders if it didn’t go along with our demands on various matters. We should very likely have just gone ahead with that.
It would have spared us 20 miserable futile years of watching our (overwhelmingly Pushtun) Taliban enemies escape us by scooting across the vast porous “AfPak” border that slices directly through the Pushtun heartland and thus is easy for Pushtun to traverse, being welcomed by their fellow Pushtun on the other side. Years of hunting for bin Laden who ended up being sheltered and protected in a Pakistani town dominated by their military and intelligence complex.
If both the Pentagon and the Indian military did not have plans in place to swoop in to seize its nuclear weapons, I’d be truly shocked.
So, again in the wake of 9/11 when we had maximum sympathy and leverage, swoop in and grab the nukes. Do what we did in Afghanistan and topple the Taliban as we did, but have the loya jirga formally declare “Afghanistan” to be dissolved, with the Uzbek areas being annexed by Uzbekistan, the Tajik areas by Tajikistan etc. As for “Pakistan”, you think its military and intel apparatus is truly loyal to this farcical Austro-Hungarian style conglomerated mismash and would fight to the bitter end to prop it up? Or would be fairly quick like after the breakup of other multi ethnic empires to become loyal to actual, viable nation-states of their own ethnic group? In this case Balochistan, Pushtunistan, Punjab, Sindh.
Once you have actual ethno states in the area that define their nationhood and legitimacy via ethnic heritage and language, then you have a much more solid and self-sustaining situation. You don’t have to rely on Islam and its constant gravitational attraction to extremism. Your borders match the facts on the ground, making it much harder for terrorists insurgents criminals and others to flee, because on the other side of that border will not be ethnic comrades waving them across but unsympathetic ethnic aliens with every motivation to vigorously patrol it and prevent the crossing.
Neither “Pakistan” nor “Afghanistan” should ever have been set up in the first place. Both are entirely artificial states.
So is “India,” another artificial state.
Some of the artificial states like UK , USA, Australia and Singapore amd
Ukrine which have been created in the last few hundred years, or decades represent recent constructions. These states suppressed existing local cultures and replaced them with novel versions. Once the powers that actualized these formations dissipate, old fault lines will emerge with new fault lines created by newcomers, leading to culture wars, poverty, and a lack of shared patriotism or nationalism.
The very tactics that US UK have used to exert influence abroad will be turned against them. These tactics will be harnessed by the countries themselves unknowingly or recklessly ( for personal careerism ) as well as by outside forces.
Sanctions lead to economic weakening, which ultimately victimizes the citizens. Families may be forced to sell their belongings, heirlooms, or even their children. Over time, the country may be sold out to foreign powers, who can then either directly intervene or send proxies.
We want this to happen to these countries themselves, and we want it to occur within our lifetimes, not long after we’ve passed away.
We want the responsible parties to be punished. We also want those who abused UN , IMF,WB, currency , democratic openness to face consequences, as well as those who could have stopped these abuses but chose not to .
Immigration though I dislike,I want them come in droves. I dislike the billionaire looting the country but I know it will help erase some of the old colonial Euroepan countries and neocolonial USA . I don’t like war spending bit I see it adds up towards realizing
the goals. Culture wars ,sexual degenerations and forcing of passive thinking added by entitlements have started creating a disconnected society that is poor in cognitive function but swelled with hubris impulsively drugs and tendencies to doles and straight simple old style begging .
Artificial states are countries that came into existence not organically but by external factors. In this sense UK , USA, Australia and Singapore are not artificial states. India is an artificial state because India would not have happened without the British. Same is South Africa, Zimbabwe…etc.