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    Here's Life photographer George Silk's famous 1956 photo of sultry Swedish high jumper Gunhild Larking: Probably the six best-looking human beings I've seen in one place at what one time was at a frozen yogurt shop on the last evening of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in Westwood, CA next to the Olympic Village at...
  • @Mike Tre
    @ScarletNumber

    "This is like saying.."

    No it isn't. Are you able to actually present your position (whatever it is)? Because you are behaving like a child desperate for attention right now.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    So that would be a resounding no. LOL

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  • @ScarletNumber
    @Twinkie


    Weight loss is simple – consume fewer calories and increase caloric expenditure.
     
    This is like saying money is fungible. They are both nominally true but they are good shibboleths in that those who say them tend to be morons.

    Running a marathon is simple; just put one foot in front of the other 60,000 times. Let me know how that goes for you 🙄

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    “This is like saying..”

    No it isn’t. Are you able to actually present your position (whatever it is)? Because you are behaving like a child desperate for attention right now.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Mike Tre

    So that would be a resounding no. LOL

  • @Mactoul
    @Twinkie

    But why do Americans consume so many calories?
    Overconsumption itself is evidence of metabolic disorder, mediated by hormonal imbalances.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    But why do Americans consume so many calories?
    Overconsumption itself is evidence of metabolic disorder, mediated by hormonal imbalances.

    Then why do Americans who move to Japan or South Korea (or most parts of Europe) consume far fewer calories daily? Do they suddenly lose “metabolic disorder, mediated by hormonal imbalances” overseas, only to regain it once coming home? Do we have some dietarily tragic dirt in America?

    • Replies: @Torna atrás
    @Twinkie

    The lack of morbid obesity here in Japan is so striking, that whenever I see a really fat person my eyes are drawn to them. There’s certainly no lack of junk food here, but two things are particularly telling. The first is that the most popular soft drinks here are various unsweetened green and oolong teas. I can’t find exact numbers yet, but every vending machine basically has half it’s selection as drinks with no sugar, added or natural. Second is that in general, they use less sugar here in making junk food. The doughnuts for example taste like white bread.

  • @BB753
    @Twinkie

    "In contrast, the Japanese consume fewer than 2,800 calories per day (yes, fewer than what Americans consumed in 1961). Is it any wonder that they have the lowest obesity in the developed world?"

    Wanna bet that Samoans on the same diet would still be fat? Why is there a denial of a genetic component in NW Europeans? Possibly a tendency to accumulate fat.

    Replies: @Renard, @Twinkie

    Wanna bet that Samoans on the same diet would still be fat?

    If a Samoan consumed 2,800 calories a day and walked as much as an average Japanese daily, he would not be “fat.” It might be that he is very marginally heavier than a Japanese person (and that’s a maybe), but he wouldn’t look like this:

    Incidentally, this picture is from a Korean TV program that delved into obesity in American Samoa: https://www.sbs.com.au/language/korean/en/podcast-episode/dateline-obesity-in-paradise/d0ced3ltz

    For Tavita, losing weight has become a matter of life and death.

    “I’m so worried for my life because I know I’m too heavy,” he tells reporter Sophie Morgan in this week’s Dateline. “I’m so worried because I really love my wife and my kids and my family.”

    Tavita is from Apia, the capital of Samoa, where there is an obesity crisis.

    A former taxi driver, he would drink two litres of sugary soft drinks each day and regularly eat mutton flaps, a cheap cut of fatty meat imported from New Zealand.

    Poor eating habits are being passed on from generation to generation causing a multitude of related health problems. Many of these health issues are also prevalent in Australia – WHO data shows almost 70 per cent of Australian males are overweight and 58 per cent of females are. But in Samoa and American Samoa, these issues are amplified. [Boldface mine.]

    2 liters of sugary drinks have something like 800 to 1000 calories.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Twinkie


    2 liters of sugary drinks have something like 800 to 1000 calories.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGDyxgXjuns
  • From the Opinion section of the Wall Street Journal: Walz Dithered While Minneapolis Burned Kamala Harris made an odd choice of running mate if she wanted to appear tough on crime. By Heather Mac Donald Aug. 13, 2024 1:58 pm ET ... Mr. Walz’s tenure as Minnesota’s governor will be defined by the George Floyd...
  • @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Trump ran as a big government populist nationalist"

    I own a 2019 book by Rand Paul, The Case Against Socialism. On the inside of the book jacket is the following quote from Donald Trump: "America will never be a socialist country". It is not hard to find other quotes from Trump indicating opposition to big government socialism.

    A 2022 Pew survey found the following positive views of socialism among various racial groups: Blacks 52%, Asians 49%, Hispanics 41%, Whites 31%. Whites are much less supportive of socialism than other racial groups and they are the base of the Republican party.

    Many conservative Whites are aware that demographic changes will eventually lead to a Hugo Chavez type of socialist who will expropriate the property of Whites and turn it over to non-Whites. Therefore, they supported an immigrationist restrictionist like Trump in 2016 who wanted to slow such demographic changes. It was his immigration position and opposition to endless expensive foreign wars that was the primary motivating factor in support for him.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Twinkie

    I own a 2019 book by Rand Paul, The Case Against Socialism. On the inside of the book jacket is the following quote from Donald Trump: “America will never be a socialist country”. It is not hard to find other quotes from Trump indicating opposition to big government socialism.

    Most Americans dislike the term “socialism” and few people support it. But I didn’t write about socialism. What I wrote was:

    You left out the fact that Trump ran as a big government popular nationalist and won.

    You (or I, for that matter) might not agree, but the general electorate modestly favors left-of-center economic policies and right-of-center cultural positions.

    Consistently, a majority or plurality of voters support big government economic programs/entitlements such as social security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps/EBT, etc. Heck, voters consistent demand lower taxes for themselves all the while supporting higher tax rates for “the rich.”

    Meanwhile, a majority or plurality of American voters evince right-of-center cultural positions – they oppose affirmative action/DEI, “trans rights,” illegal immigration, curtailment of religious freedom, etc.

    Why do you think Trump wanted his name on the stimulus checks? The President is handing out free cash, dog!

    Even you – a self-declared libertarian – approved the stimulus checks.

    Note that this is not my preferred position – I am merely describing the actual tendencies of the American electorate.

    Many conservative Whites are aware that demographic changes will eventually lead to a Hugo Chavez type of socialist who will expropriate the property of Whites and turn it over to non-Whites.

    I actually worked in conservative politics for some years and no one – no conservative whites – ever talked this way. The main fear of white conservatives wasn’t economic (not “expropriation”) – it was and remains cultural – that America, with mass immigration, will be a very culturally alien place where Anglo-American civic and social norms are no longer upheld and, indeed, might not even be Anglophone.

    Then there is the rather inconvenient fact that whites are not the largest per capita contributors to the public purse in America – Asians are. Asians have the highest mean income, the highest tax contribution, and the lowest entitlement usage in America (whites are the second highest per-capita net contributors). Hispanics are a wash or a slight negative contributors while blacks are the greatest consumers of the public purse. As of now, the greatest per capita economic “expropriation” by government is against Asians.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "I didn't write about socialism"

    There is no such thing as small government socialism. Most Whites would equate big government with socialism and, as I pointed out, a much lower percentage of Whites have a positive view than other races of socialism.

    In the future, as Whites come closer to minority status in this country, it is likely you will see more racial solidarity among them. One party will represent Whites, likely the Republicans, while non-White Blacks, Muslims, Hispanics and South Asians will join together in a anti-White party that wants to expropriate the wealth of Whites.

    NE Asians are the only other high IQ group besides Whites capable of running an advanced technological society. They really belong in the same party as Whites. Charles Murray has said that and has explained why that has not already happened:

    https://www.aei.org/politics-and-public-opinion/why-arent-asians-republicans/

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Nicholas Stix
    @Twinkie


    "If you go to YouTube, there are 12 installments of Veep Thoughts with Kamala Harris curated by Washington Free Beacon."
     
    English translation: edited by. The only people who curate anything work in museums and art galleries.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    English translation: edited by. The only people who curate anything work in museums and art galleries.

    I now speak some Millennial.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie



    The only people who curate anything work in museums and art galleries.
     
    I now speak some Millennial.
     
    How about Bimillennial? In the Church, curate, like collect, is a noun as well as a verb, and thus pronounced differently. It's related to (but not the same as ) the French curé, as in the Curé of Ars, the patron of parish priests. It has come to mean an assistant or subordinate priest, though alternative terms such as "assistant pastor" seem to be more common in America today. (That in itself is sad. If you live in a parish big enough to have a second priest --we don't-- encourage its use.)


    In the Anglican Communion, a curate is more like an apprentice, or a vicar on his (or her) first post. Here is a piece from David Goodhart's Prospect:

    Clerical life: Last days of the curates

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  • @Mark G.
    @Corvinus

    "Trump is taking the Republican party down intellectually"

    The pre-Trump Republican party, though, had been following failing policies. This included failed attempts at nation building in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, letting in too many immigrants to please big business with their desire for cheap labor, and supporting giving house loans to minorities which eventually helped lead to the 2008 financial crisis when they couldn't make their payments.

    So the intellectuals at places like National Review who had supported all that were discredited. Trump, who they saw as clownish and lowbrow, was willing to abandon the uniparty consensus and that is why he won in 2016.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    So the intellectuals at places like National Review who had supported all that were discredited. Trump, who they saw as clownish and lowbrow, was willing to abandon the uniparty consensus and that is why he won in 2016.

    You left out the fact that Trump ran as a big government popular nationalist and won.

    You (or I, for that matter) might not agree, but the general electorate modestly favors left-of-center economic policies and right-of-center cultural positions.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "Trump ran as a big government populist nationalist"

    I own a 2019 book by Rand Paul, The Case Against Socialism. On the inside of the book jacket is the following quote from Donald Trump: "America will never be a socialist country". It is not hard to find other quotes from Trump indicating opposition to big government socialism.

    A 2022 Pew survey found the following positive views of socialism among various racial groups: Blacks 52%, Asians 49%, Hispanics 41%, Whites 31%. Whites are much less supportive of socialism than other racial groups and they are the base of the Republican party.

    Many conservative Whites are aware that demographic changes will eventually lead to a Hugo Chavez type of socialist who will expropriate the property of Whites and turn it over to non-Whites. Therefore, they supported an immigrationist restrictionist like Trump in 2016 who wanted to slow such demographic changes. It was his immigration position and opposition to endless expensive foreign wars that was the primary motivating factor in support for him.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Twinkie

  • @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie

    And...

    https://twitter.com/drrollergator/status/1822981365727424846

    BTW, is it coincidence that Washington Free Beacon and William F. Buckley have the same initials?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    She makes Obama seem like a genius. The level of inanity is just astounding. I thought heard the dumbest senator/pol ever with Patty Murray (D-WA), but Kamala really takes the cake.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    People need to focus primarily not on the fact that Kamala is stupid, which is self-evident, but on the vastly more important thing, which is... SHE BELIEVES STUPID THINGS.

    Just you wait til she rolls out her reparations package, then you'll see I'm right.

    , @deep anonymous
    @Twinkie

    You might be forgetting that Black! dimwit (whose name I can't remember) who expressed concern that if too many people crowded onto one side of an island, it would tip over.

    Don't get me wrong, Kamala appears to be a total dimwit who thinks the "cloud" is "up there." There is a reason her handlers will not allow her to be interviewed, even though the MSM are her "allies."

  • From a YouGov poll: Dr. Rachael Gunn, the hilariously inept Australian academic who somehow got a free trip to Paris to compete in Olympic breakdancing, embodies the Anglo spirit of childish egomania. Obviously, I could never at any age have qualified for any Olympic sport, not since the abolition of the Plunge for Distance. While...
  • @Twinkie
    @Steve Sailer

    Mr. Sailer, there is someone commenting at Tyler Cowen’s blog under your name and using the n-word. I assume that’s not actually you. You might want to alert the site owner about the impersonation.

    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2024/08/europeans-deserve-to-be-as-cool-as-americans.html#comments


    Steve Sailer 2024-08-13 00:35:46
    4 17
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    I’m from America so maybe a little biased, but Europe will never be as cool as America. Why? Because we have all the niggers, and they are what makes America great.
     

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Well, it’s gone now.

  • From the Opinion section of the Wall Street Journal: Walz Dithered While Minneapolis Burned Kamala Harris made an odd choice of running mate if she wanted to appear tough on crime. By Heather Mac Donald Aug. 13, 2024 1:58 pm ET ... Mr. Walz’s tenure as Minnesota’s governor will be defined by the George Floyd...
  • @Almost Missouri

    What a ditz…
     
    You say that, but her own words articulate a deep-seated resentment of heritage Americans and an elaborated plan to destroy that population through "protest", a euphemism for political violence.

    There are things she is ditzy about, but this isn't one of them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Twinkie, @AnotherDad

    There are things she is ditzy about

    Video Link

    If you go to YouTube, there are 12 installments of Veep Thoughts with Kamala Harris curated by Washington Free Beacon. But I think the best piece by far is that from – of all places – the Daily Show!

    Video Link

    Veep was one of my favorite TV comedies ever (I worked on the Hill briefly and found the portrayals on the show on the money – sometimes painfully so) and when Kamala became the VP, I knew that Veep had become reality.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Twinkie


    "If you go to YouTube, there are 12 installments of Veep Thoughts with Kamala Harris curated by Washington Free Beacon."
     
    English translation: edited by. The only people who curate anything work in museums and art galleries.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Renard
    @Twinkie

    Thanks. Watching Julia vs Kamala, it strikes me as passing strange that one of these women is considered black in current year America.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie

    And...

    https://twitter.com/drrollergator/status/1822981365727424846

    BTW, is it coincidence that Washington Free Beacon and William F. Buckley have the same initials?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @BB753
    @Twinkie

    Kamala might not be the president we need but the one that we deserve, lol! Clown world!

  • @Harry Baldwin
    Maybe it's just me, but I'm more concerned about the way Walz responded to the Minneapolis riots than I am with his stolen valor. Whether or not he honored his military commitment did far less damage to the nation than his sympathy for rioters, looters, and arsonists

    It's bizarre that they're trying to present Walz as a candidate who represents "joy." He reminds me of Ed Asner's crabby character in the movie "Up."

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/bd/80/afbd800d14ae8b0b4a87c86e24cff96e.jpg

    Replies: @Thomm, @Anon701, @Dmon, @Twinkie, @meh, @JohnnyWalker123, @bomag

    It’s bizarre that they’re trying to present Walz as a candidate who represents “joy.” He reminds me of Ed Asner’s crabby character in the movie “Up.”

    That character had a reason to be crabby – the love of his life couldn’t have a baby and then she fell ill and died before he, not having fulfilled their joint dreams.

    Video Link

    What’s Walz’s excuse?

    All that “joy” stuff is just Instagram-pretend. He and Harris are two of the phoniest political characters in America.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Twinkie


    What’s Walz’s excuse?

    All that “joy” stuff is just Instagram-pretend. He and Harris are two of the phoniest political characters in America.
     

    What is motivating Walz? What is he in politics for?

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth

    , @Prester John
    @Twinkie

    And that takes in a lot--and I do mean a LOT--of territory.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    That character had a reason to be crabby – the love of his life couldn’t have a baby and then she fell ill and died before he, not having fulfilled their joint dreams.
     
    That heartbreaking wordless vignette (montage, or whatever) is the only CGI work I've seen that comes close to traditional paint-on-paper animation in humanity. Or even stop-motion animation, for that matter. CGI ruined Fireman Sam and Thomas the Tank Engine. In the case of the latter, the music, once among the best anywhere it the 1990s, went into the loo as well. An ebbing tide lowers all boats.

    TheWallace and Gromit people wisely rejected CGI technology out-of-hand.

    CGI Pocoyo isn't too bad, but its extreme minimalism helps.

  • Here's Life photographer George Silk's famous 1956 photo of sultry Swedish high jumper Gunhild Larking: Probably the six best-looking human beings I've seen in one place at what one time was at a frozen yogurt shop on the last evening of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in Westwood, CA next to the Olympic Village at...
  • @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber



    There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat.
     
    It is really amazing to me that the readers of an HBD blog have a blind spot when it comes to this topic. They will happily shout from the rooftops that black people have a mean IQ of 85, but if you point out that different humans have different metabolisms, they will put their fingers in their ears and shout CALORIES IN, CALORIES OUT!
     
    Embrace the power of "both".

    Individual metabolisms--how hard it is for people to avoid being fat--obviously vary. Heck, I have to have discipline myself just to stay 10 lbs overweight. I don't have breakfast. I don't have a big dinner. I fast once a week. (Which is easy in Florida, but much harder here in the PNW because we're at AnotherDaughter's house and AnotherMom likes to cook when one of her babies is around--plus AnotherSonInLaw and AnotherCousin are here as well. Today is my fast day ... but she's got a bunch of bacon on the stove there--she's making a quiche--and I love bacon. Christmastime here is of course, hopeless.) In contrast, my best friend from grad school is an Indian guy who has stayed skinny as a rail. He just doesn't get fat.

    But it's clear it isn't just genes making people fat. I can remember the 60s and 70s and there were some overweight people around. But nothing like today. (My grandfather was obese for that time--but now would just be an unremarkable fat American.)

    People are fat now, not because genes radically changed in a couple generations, but because people gulp down enormous quantities of food, including lots of sugar and fast carbs--that metabolize quickly jack up blood sugar and insulin response--but they don't labor away in field or factory or really do much of anything at all to burn calories. The result is ... fat.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Twinkie, @Anonymous Jew

    People are fat now, not because genes radically changed in a couple generations, but because people gulp down enormous quantities of food, including lots of sugar and fast carbs–that metabolize quickly jack up blood sugar and insulin response–but they don’t labor away in field or factory or really do much of anything at all to burn calories. The result is … fat.

    It used to be said, before the rise of IT (and online pornography), that the two fastest ways of making money in America was 1) starting your own weight loss/diet program and 2) starting your own cult… in other words, the same thing.

    Weight loss is simple – consume fewer calories and increase caloric expenditure. But the simplest things are the hardest things to do sometimes. People would rather continue to sit on their butts, stare at their mobile phones, eat lots of food, and demand some sort of a magic solution like a pill that somehow increases caloric consumption (which you can do – with amphetamine-like chemicals, it’s just that such things are terrible for your heart and doubly so for people who already have heart issues due to obesity) or some “amazing” diet… or something else that doesn’t require self-discipline.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Twinkie


    Weight loss is simple – consume fewer calories and increase caloric expenditure.
     
    This is like saying money is fungible. They are both nominally true but they are good shibboleths in that those who say them tend to be morons.

    Running a marathon is simple; just put one foot in front of the other 60,000 times. Let me know how that goes for you 🙄

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  • @ScarletNumber
    @Twinkie


    There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat.
     
    It is really amazing to me that the readers of an HBD blog have a blind spot when it comes to this topic. They will happily shout from the rooftops that black people have a mean IQ of 85, but if you point out that different humans have different metabolisms, they will put their fingers in their ears and shout CALORIES IN, CALORIES OUT!

    Replies: @Roger Cheeto, @AnotherDad, @James B. Shearer, @Twinkie

    They will happily shout from the rooftops that black people have a mean IQ of 85, but if you point out that different humans have different metabolisms, they will put their fingers in their ears and shout CALORIES IN, CALORIES OUT!

    What are you talking about? Just like the races have different mean IQ’s, there are mean obesity differences among races:

    But metabolism differences – though they exist – are not large and have not been found to be the main drivers of obesity, which are dietary intake and caloric expenditure differences over time. Note, by the way, that even if your “natural” metabolism rate is low, you can increase it with exercise (e.g. by building muscle).

  • @Mactoul
    @Twinkie

    Obesity simply a matter of input vs output?
    And under conscious control?
    Then either a person controls his inputs and outputs very precisely or gains or loses weight.

    Do you really think the non-obese, the Koreans and the Japanese are controlling their inputs and outputs very precisely?
    For even a 30 Cal daily mismatch makes for 1 kg of weight gain per year.

    An alternative hypothesis is obesity comes from hormonal disorders.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Twinkie

    Do you really think the non-obese, the Koreans and the Japanese are controlling their inputs and outputs very precisely?

    No precise control of inputs and outputs is necessary.

    Every single American I know who moved to Japan or South Korea lost weight. Often significantly. Every. Single. One. (Including Americans who are ethnic Asians.)

    And then ALL of those who came back to the U.S gained back the weight (and then some for most of them). ALL of them. Do you think they went through selective hormonal disorders only when in the U.S.?

    The answer is pretty darn simple. You don’t eat huge portions of food and then sit on your bottom driving your own car everywhere in East Asia. The portions are small and you walk everywhere or ride the public transport, which requires you to walk to the bus, train or subway stations.

    In 1961, Americans consumed about 2,800 calories per day. Now they consume over 3,600 calories per day. You wrote that “even a 30 Cal daily mismatch makes for 1 kg [2.2 lbs] of weight gain per year.” By your math, at 800 calories extra per year, we are talking 26.7 kg (58.7 lbs) of weight again a year. And that’s not even factoring the output – Americans do far less manual labor, play outside or walk outside than in previous decades.

    In contrast, the Japanese consume fewer than 2,800 calories per day (yes, fewer than what Americans consumed in 1961). Is it any wonder that they have the lowest obesity in the developed world?

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Twinkie

    "In contrast, the Japanese consume fewer than 2,800 calories per day (yes, fewer than what Americans consumed in 1961). Is it any wonder that they have the lowest obesity in the developed world?"

    Wanna bet that Samoans on the same diet would still be fat? Why is there a denial of a genetic component in NW Europeans? Possibly a tendency to accumulate fat.

    Replies: @Renard, @Twinkie

    , @Mactoul
    @Twinkie

    But why do Americans consume so many calories?
    Overconsumption itself is evidence of metabolic disorder, mediated by hormonal imbalances.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Mactoul
    @Twinkie

    Obesity simply a matter of input vs output?
    And under conscious control?
    Then either a person controls his inputs and outputs very precisely or gains or loses weight.

    Do you really think the non-obese, the Koreans and the Japanese are controlling their inputs and outputs very precisely?
    For even a 30 Cal daily mismatch makes for 1 kg of weight gain per year.

    An alternative hypothesis is obesity comes from hormonal disorders.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Twinkie

    The problem is there was no obesity prior to about 1950, maybe even 1960. Granted, there were probably quite a few less hormonal disorders as well, but it’s been found that so many of the synthetic materials we are in contact with everyday have estrogenic effects on the body, and that is bad for both sexes. But here’s what both come down to:

    People had to work harder to survive, and were able to eat less food to do it. This is the caloric intake/expend rule in its simplest form.

    Kids used to play out side all day. Now they play video games or stare at their phone. Men worked on their feet. Women used to wash clothes by hand, cook all their meals from scratch, keep up with their kids, scrub floors and walls, work in the garden, and walk to the grocery store.

    Now, we subsidize people to sit at home, eat processed food and stare at screens.

    to me, claiming that obesity is “genetic” is just a crutch for people to not have to admit that they make poor lifestyle choices. No, you’re fat, and it’s your own fault.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Mike Tre

    Yes it's totally obvious why we're fat if you look at:

    A. Much less manual labor at work and at home

    B. Less walking

    C. Many more snack foods available everywhere

    D. Entertainment no longer involves physical activity

    Voluntary exercise has little if anything to do with it for most people, although motivated types can stave off fatness through dietary vigilance and exercise.

    One little discussed reason for fatness is the destruction of American urban communities via ethnic cleansing and suburbification of our lifestyle. In a lot of European cities you can still do pretty much everything on foot, but that's almost unheard of in your typical American city for obvious but unstated reasons.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

  • What's going to happen to all the Olympic sports whose American college programs train many Olympians from around the world now that college football players are finally going to be paid at close to market rates, presumably leaving less profit to subsidize minor college sports? I'm sure the world will continue spinning if, for instance,...
  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Twinkie


    All countries with large scale government-funded healthcare ration care.
     
    Exactly right, but Americans do not want to hear that 85 year old grandpa is not going to get a hip replacement.

    In Canada, you have to wait weeks, if not months, to get an MRI or see a specialist. There is one medical blogger (Sally Satel?) whose mother died of cancer while waiting to see a specialist.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Exactly right, but Americans do not want to hear that 85 year old grandpa is not going to get a hip replacement.

    In Canada, you have to wait weeks, if not months, to get an MRI or see a specialist. There is one medical blogger (Sally Satel?) whose mother died of cancer while waiting to see a specialist.

    It’s not even a secret that affluent Canadians who need “elective” medical care come to the U.S.

  • @guest007
    @Twinkie

    The original article was published in 1991 and thus would only have data from 1990 and before.
    https://www.pnhp.org/publications/NEJM5_2_91.htm

    The linked chart goes to 2009. If one looks at the last statistics abstract from 2012, one would see in the table labeled Hospitals—Summary Characteristics: 1990 to 2009 that employment went from 4 million to 5 million. Thus the massive growth in administrators could not have occurred.

    https://investingdoc.com/the-growth-of-administrators-in-health-care/

    Replies: @Twinkie

    The original article was published in 1991 and thus would only have data from 1990 and before.

    Himmelstein and Woolhandler published a series of articles over the years regarding this subject:

    Himmelstein DU, Woolhandler S. Cost without benefit. Administrative waste in U.S. health care. N Engl J Med. 1986;314:441-5.

    Woolhandler S, Himmelstein DU. The deteriorating administrative efficiency of the U.S. health care system. N Engl J Med. 1991;324:1253-8.

    Himmelstein DU, Lewontin JP, Woolhandler S. Who administers? Who cares? Medical administrative and clinical employment in the United States and Canada. Am J Public Health. 1996;86:172-8.

    Woolhandler S, Campbell T, Himmelstein DU. Costs of health care administration in the United States and Canada. N Engl J Med.2003;349:768-75.

    Himmelstein DU, Jun M, Busse R, et al. A comparison of hospital administrative costs in eight nations: US costs exceed all others by far. Health Aff (Millwood). 2014;33:1586-94.

    And the latest was: Himmelstein DU, Campbell T, Woolhandler, S. Health Care Administrative Costs in the United States and Canada, Ann Intern Med. 2020 (Annals.org).

    If one looks at the last statistics abstract from 2012, one would see in the table labeled Hospitals—Summary Characteristics: 1990 to 2009 that employment went from 4 million to 5 million. Thus the massive growth in administrators could not have occurred.

    Can you cite exactly for me where you found it?

    Note that hospital employment has increased despite the fact the number of hospitals has declined significantly since 1975. Concomitantly, the number of hospital beds has declined at even a greater rate. What does that tell you?

    Note that when calculating healthcare “administration” costs, Himmelstein includes: insurers’ overhead and administrative costs in hospitals, nursing homes, home care agencies and hospices, and physicians offices, so I would expect employment in administration would reflect such areas, not just hospital staff.

    https://investingdoc.com/the-growth-of-administrators-in-health-care/

    The author of this missive has odd objections. For example, he writes:

    This graph has two red flags.

    First: Data is represented as percent growth in jobs. Not the actual number of people employed.

    This is not a red flag at all. The graph is meant to show cumulative increases by percentage over the years. It’s not a graph showing the number of employees.

    Second: Anytime a graph shows a 3,000% change in one direction, I can’t help but ask myself if things may seem too good to be true. (If an investor claims to always beat the market, you should be seeing red flags too.)

    This is an non-sequitur. There are all kinds of things that have increased by 3,000% over a 40-year period.

    Were there initially 50,000 health care administrators in 1970 compared to the 328,020 active physicians (a ratio of 6.5 doctors to every 1 administrator)? IF that was the case, then a 3,000 % increase would equal about 2,000,000 administrators in medicine by the year 2009.

    And?

    The odd thing is that the author of this “critique” acknowledges that the growth of the administration in medicine has been very large.

    In any case, in the latest Himmelstein (2020) study, it is concluded:

    Total Costs of Health Care Administration
    Health care administrative costs in the United States in 2017 totaled $812.0 billion, $2497 per capita ($2696 per insured person), or 34.2% of total spending in the categories for which data are available. The comparable estimates for Canada are $551 per capita ($593, assuming U.S. wage rates in doctors’ offices), or 17.0% of expenditures. The difference amounts to over $1900 per capita (or over $2100 per insured person), equivalent to more than $600 billion in excess administrative spending in the United States.

  • From the New York Times: Aren't there any critics of Kamala who think it's the right strategy for her to prevent her from going viral with another lame gaffe? Isn't the big secret about Kamala that there is no secret: she's just a basic old sorority girl? From Politico: Why Harris isn’t taking questions By...
  • @Twinkie
    @epebble


    Has there been a similar admission anytime by a Muslim Mullah or a Catholic priest?
     
    Nothing by a Mullah or a Rabbi.

    But have you been napping on the Popes?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/pope-francis/pope-francis-apologizes-catholic-priest-sex-abuse-scandal-sorrow-shame-n902121

    Replies: @epebble

    That is a truly heartfelt apology. I think Pope Francis is truly a great and honorable man than a politician/administrator (as most religious heads are). It is a shame that many in the hierarchy speak ill of him.

    • LOL: Twinkie
  • From a YouGov poll: Dr. Rachael Gunn, the hilariously inept Australian academic who somehow got a free trip to Paris to compete in Olympic breakdancing, embodies the Anglo spirit of childish egomania. Obviously, I could never at any age have qualified for any Olympic sport, not since the abolition of the Plunge for Distance. While...
  • @AnotherDad
    @International Jew


    I wonder what’s in that 3% “other” for Germany. Maybe Romania and Italy for screwing up at the critical moments.
     
    The most plausible "other" case I can think of is actually "Japan".

    The simplest one sentence take on the War: The Axis took on the country with the biggest economy and largest most advanced industrial production in the world without any way of being able to effectively attack its production.

    But one level below: The Axis was not a real strategic military alliance.

    If Germany and Japan had been real allies and cooperated in attacking the Soviet Union ... that would have a different kettle of fish. And it would have been difficult for Roosevelt to move popular opinion to fight a war for the Reds. Instead, Japan--obviously with Roosevelt's prompting--attacked the American, British and Dutch empires. And by directly attacking Americans--especially the American fleet in Pearl Harbor--they really poked us in the eye and got Americans rev'd up to go to war, with the inevitable result.

    Replies: @Torna atrás, @Dutch Boy, @bomag, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    If Germany and Japan had been real allies and cooperated in attacking the Soviet Union … that would have a different kettle of fish.

    Reminds that the Battle of Khalkhin Gol is one of the most important battles of WWII that few people know about. (Decisive defeat of Japan by the Red Army, 1939, Mongolian border, that cooled Japan’s plan to invade and take Siberia et al.)

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Thanks: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @bomag

    And it was Zhukov who won the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. Kicking Jap ass persuaded Stalin that he could move troops from Siberia to counter Hitler's invasion in 1941. Their defeat also made the Japanese reorient their offensive strategy towards the Pacific.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Pythas
    @bomag

    Yes and it was Marshall Zhukov in command of those troops that did the job.

  • @Steve Sailer
    @meh

    I signed up for badminton intramurals at Rice U. because I usually beat my cousins at badminton at 4th of July picnics, so I figured I was a natural talent. I wound up getting slaughtered by grad students from South Asia and Southeast Asia who were fanatics about badminton.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Corvinus

    Mr. Sailer, there is someone commenting at Tyler Cowen’s blog under your name and using the n-word. I assume that’s not actually you. You might want to alert the site owner about the impersonation.

    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2024/08/europeans-deserve-to-be-as-cool-as-americans.html#comments

    Steve Sailer 2024-08-13 00:35:46
    4 17
    #
    I’m from America so maybe a little biased, but Europe will never be as cool as America. Why? Because we have all the niggers, and they are what makes America great.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Twinkie

    Well, it's gone now.

  • What's going to happen to all the Olympic sports whose American college programs train many Olympians from around the world now that college football players are finally going to be paid at close to market rates, presumably leaving less profit to subsidize minor college sports? I'm sure the world will continue spinning if, for instance,...
  • @Frau Katze
    @Twinkie

    Looks like an interesting graph. But it tells me that I need a subscription to see it.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Try a different browser.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Twinkie

    I could see the summary paragraph about the US costs per capita being three times the next highest country, Germany.

    That’s quite the statistic.

    , @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    She used to do computers for a living. Don't doubt her.

  • If you get it right, then you can cite it endlessly. If you get it wrong, only your most obsessive worst enemies will look it up.
  • @James B. Shearer
    @Twinkie

    "...WI is the toughest of the three for Trump ..."

    Why do you think so? He came closer in 2020 in Wisconsin than in Michigan or Pennsylvania.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Why do you think so? He came closer in 2020 in Wisconsin than in Michigan or Pennsylvania.

    With WI, it’s always the last ten thousand votes the GOP seem unable to muster.

    Plus look at the actual polls now. Harris does the best in WI out of the three.

  • @AP
    @Twinkie

    Vance and Eastern Europeans don't get along - he really hurts the ticket in PA - home to 104,000 Ukrainians and a similar number of Lithuanians, most of whom are traditional Republican voters, many (if not most) of whom will not vote for the Republican ticket for the first time in their lives.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Twinkie

    Vance and Eastern Europeans don’t get along – he really hurts the ticket in PA – home to 104,000 Ukrainians and a similar number of Lithuanians, most of whom are traditional Republican voters, many (if not most) of whom will not vote for the Republican ticket for the first time in their lives.

    Vance adds little electorally to Trump (nor is he a good campaigner – his senate campaign underperformed other Republicans in his state). I suspect he was supposed to be a Trumpian successor-in-waiting, picked when the Trump campaign was pretty buoyant about defeating Biden handily.

    Now that the opponents are Harris/Walz, I bet the campaign wished it had picked someone like Glenn Youngkin instead.

  • The Olympic 100 meter dash consists, for the top sprinters, of a first round of heats, a semifinal, and then an eight-man final. In the last eleven Olympics from 1984 through 2024, men with at least one sub-Saharan parent have earned 87 of the 88 spots in the finals. Su Bingtian of China broke the...
  • @Truth
    @Twinkie

    OK, your opinion is that Ono is the best Judoka of all time. I cannot diminish the accomplishments of a man who has medaled in 5 Olympics. But I understand that I took judo for a few months, and you claim to have been doing it for 40 years.

    In any event, your opinion is FAR from universal.

    A random search of "Best Judokas" came up with this list; Riner is rated #7, Ono not at all. And they went all the way back to Mifune, whom I was aware of, in the ratings.

    https://playersbio.com/best-judokas/

    This list has Riner #2 Ono, #10

    https://sportsfoundation.org/best-judo-athletes-of-all-time/

    Riner#3, Ono not included:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkhBoK6LRi0

    Riner #3, Ono not included:

    https://www.lvshaolin.com/the-best-of-the-best-the-top-10-judokas-of-all-time/

    And is there an incredible difference in skill here? I don't see it, but again I'm a casual. Your boy does have 2 or 3 more athletic throws, but the rest are similar.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TzIO1mzbsE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7z06Uca3Y&t=215s

    Hey, good job anyway.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    OK, your opinion is that Ono is the best Judoka of all time.

    You really have exceptionally poor reading comprehension, don’t you?

    I never wrote such a thing. Go back, take a remedial reading course, and read my comments again.

  • What's going to happen to all the Olympic sports whose American college programs train many Olympians from around the world now that college football players are finally going to be paid at close to market rates, presumably leaving less profit to subsidize minor college sports? I'm sure the world will continue spinning if, for instance,...
  • @guest007
    @Twinkie

    Administrator is a very vague category? How exactly counts that is actually part of patient care such as pharmacist, medical lab personnel, x-ray techs, nurses and who is doing nothing but carrying a clip board. A link to the graph would have been nice so that I could have looked it up myself.

    I did find an article pointing out everything wrong with the graph and how it could not possibly be correct.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    How exactly counts that is actually part of patient care such as pharmacist, medical lab personnel, x-ray techs, nurses and who is doing nothing but carrying a clip board.

    Whether they carry a clip board or a stethoscope, those are all clinicians, not administrators. People in administration are those who engage in non-clinical work such as patient intake, regulatory compliance or billing, for example.

    The source of the graph is stated clearly underneath the graph. Look up Himmelstein and Woolhandler.

    And for the international comparisons: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1264127/per-capita-health-administrative-costs-by-country/

    Already by 1999, the Himmelstein study found that 30+% of healthcare costs in the U.S. were administrative (other studies put the figure at 25+%). It’s only grown since as compliance and billing costs have risen dramatically.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Twinkie

    Looks like an interesting graph. But it tells me that I need a subscription to see it.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @guest007
    @Twinkie

    The original article was published in 1991 and thus would only have data from 1990 and before.
    https://www.pnhp.org/publications/NEJM5_2_91.htm

    The linked chart goes to 2009. If one looks at the last statistics abstract from 2012, one would see in the table labeled Hospitals—Summary Characteristics: 1990 to 2009 that employment went from 4 million to 5 million. Thus the massive growth in administrators could not have occurred.

    https://investingdoc.com/the-growth-of-administrators-in-health-care/

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Twinkie

    I think a large part of administrative costs are 1) pass the potato/bill to someone else and 2) compliance with guvmint regulations.

    One advantage of true universal health care is that reason 1 might go away.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I think a large part of administrative costs are 1) pass the potato/bill to someone else and 2) compliance with guvmint regulations.

    One advantage of true universal health care is that reason 1 might go away.

    “Might” is right. Of course, we know for certain – under “true universal health care” – reason 2 will grow even more massively.

    Remember “low cost, high quality, wide access,” optimization? “True universal health care” may or may not result in low cost, but it’s almost certain that quality will decline and access will be limited. All countries with large scale government-funded healthcare ration care.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Twinkie


    All countries with large scale government-funded healthcare ration care.
     
    Exactly right, but Americans do not want to hear that 85 year old grandpa is not going to get a hip replacement.

    In Canada, you have to wait weeks, if not months, to get an MRI or see a specialist. There is one medical blogger (Sally Satel?) whose mother died of cancer while waiting to see a specialist.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @AnotherDad
    @Brutusale


    https://search.brave.com/images?q=olivia%20dunne%20

    She’s reputedly worth $6 million.
     
    I realize young women spend terrific amounts of money on clothing and cosmetics, so there will be potential ad revenue from popular instagram accounts of girls whom other girls follow. Still the number strikes me as crazy. She's cute, but no cuter than tens of thousands of other girls peddling their lives on-line. Do that many young women really avidly click through her pics and then click on ads?--"Oh I love that bikini, if I get it my butt will look just like hers!"

    I guess the answer is ... yes they do. It's a weird world.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    She’s cute, but no cuter than tens of thousands of other girls peddling their lives on-line. Do that many young women really avidly click through her pics and then click on ads?–“Oh I love that bikini, if I get it my butt will look just like hers!”

    I guess the answer is … yes they do. It’s a weird world.

    Social media is destructive, but it’s been an utter calamity for young women.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, nebulafox
  • Here's Life photographer George Silk's famous 1956 photo of sultry Swedish high jumper Gunhild Larking: Probably the six best-looking human beings I've seen in one place at what one time was at a frozen yogurt shop on the last evening of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in Westwood, CA next to the Olympic Village at...
  • @BB753
    @Twinkie

    I agree with most of what you said . Except staying thin is not as easy as it sounds. It's not like dressing pretty or acting in a ladylike way. For some reason, American women have gotten fatter. It's got to be the food or a tendency among a subset of the population, of North Western origin. Samoans are prone to obesity too. Could it be partly genetic? ( And black women are even fatter than white women in America).

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Twinkie

    Except staying thin is not as easy as it sounds. It’s not like dressing pretty or acting in a ladylike way.

    All those – staying trim or being ladylike – require proper inculcation and self-discipline.

    But American society – with its love of driving everywhere and not walking and eating lots of junk food – does make it hard for ordinary people to do it.

    There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat. All the various diets and compositions of food are marginal in effect. Eating less and moving more. That’s the secret behind the Japanese and the South Koreans being the least obese people in the developed world (people go on about how “processed food” is the real culprit in the West, well, Japanese and Korean diets are heavy in processed food as well).

    • Replies: @Mactoul
    @Twinkie

    Obesity simply a matter of input vs output?
    And under conscious control?
    Then either a person controls his inputs and outputs very precisely or gains or loses weight.

    Do you really think the non-obese, the Koreans and the Japanese are controlling their inputs and outputs very precisely?
    For even a 30 Cal daily mismatch makes for 1 kg of weight gain per year.

    An alternative hypothesis is obesity comes from hormonal disorders.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Twinkie

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Twinkie


    There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat.
     
    It is really amazing to me that the readers of an HBD blog have a blind spot when it comes to this topic. They will happily shout from the rooftops that black people have a mean IQ of 85, but if you point out that different humans have different metabolisms, they will put their fingers in their ears and shout CALORIES IN, CALORIES OUT!

    Replies: @Roger Cheeto, @AnotherDad, @James B. Shearer, @Twinkie

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Twinkie


    There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat. All the various diets and compositions of food are marginal in effect. Eating less and moving more. That’s the secret behind the Japanese and the South Koreans being the least obese people in the developed world (people go on about how “processed food” is the real culprit in the West, well, Japanese and Korean diets are heavy in processed food as well).
     
    I think this is true. Ecuadorians eat absolute crap, but obesity is not very common, especially for men. The food may be crap and pretty tasteless, but they don't eat a lot of it, and portions are small and desserts rarely consumed.

    When I was growing up in post World War II England, obesity was almost unknown among schoolchildren. This was probably because the food was crap and people only ate the minimum necessary to stave off hunger. You usually had to pick the black bits out of potatoes and remove the thick veins from the liver.

    Also sodas were rarely drunk and fruit juices very rarely. We had tapwater or tea with all meals and tapwater was routinely provided free of charge in restaurants.

    Now England has one of the highest rates of obesity in the world. With prosperity comes overconsumption. When I was 18 in England, I had never seen a pizza or a red water melon in my life. EVERY meal consisted of some form of potatoes or bread or pastry or suet plus something else. Never pasta or rice or plantains.

    The true cause of obesity is ... Starbucks.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @BB753
    @Twinkie

    "Eating less and moving more. That’s the secret behind the Japanese and the South Koreans being the least obese people in the developed world"
    As someone said, for an HBD blog, people are quick to dismiss genetic diversity.

    Replies: @Torna atrás

  • From a YouGov poll: Dr. Rachael Gunn, the hilariously inept Australian academic who somehow got a free trip to Paris to compete in Olympic breakdancing, embodies the Anglo spirit of childish egomania. Obviously, I could never at any age have qualified for any Olympic sport, not since the abolition of the Plunge for Distance. While...
  • @Snorri Godhi
    From what i read, "the Anglo spirit of childish egomania" was a thing in the xix century (although not very childish), but by the time i got to England in 1990, i was frustrated by the natives' lack of self-confidence. But, mind you, most of my acquaintances were academics.

    I am reminded of another statistic, that 19% of Americans think that they are in the top 1% income bracket. But i don't know about such stats for other countries.

    -- As for fighting animals, Sun Tzu had it right: the best warrior wins the war without fighting any battles.
    I myself scared off a vicious-looking mid-size dog who was barking at me, by walking briskly towards her and shouting a kiai at her. I did it because that was my only way out, i didn't do it out of principle.

    Most of the animals in the list are probably easy to scare off, or at least to pacify. That includes lions (in Masai country) and probably grizzlies. King cobras, elephants, and large crocodiles seem to me the main exceptions.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Frau Katze, @Twinkie

    I myself scared off a vicious-looking mid-size dog who was barking at me, by walking briskly towards her and shouting a kiai at her.

    Video Link

    Video Link

    By the way, it’s hilarious that people think that they can shoot (bows or air rifles) at the Olympic level. “It’s just standing still and pulling the trigger. How hard can that be?”

    LOL.

  • @Jack D
    @Torna atrás


    60% of young Japanese believe it was Russia who dropped the nuclear bombs on them.
     
    This is totally false. You talk about falling for propaganda but YOU are the one who fell for it (it being Rushist propaganda which is something that the Men of Unz love for some reason).

    https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/28927/do-25-of-japanese-people-believe-that-ussr-dropped-nuclear-bombs-on-hiroshima

    Decades old surveys put this # at 20% circa 1970. Naturally the textbooks written/approved by the American occupation authorities did not go heavy on the fact that it was America who dropped the Big One but in the decades since the Japanese get to write their own textbooks and they are a lot more clear. Generally speaking 20% of people don't know their ass from their elbow and couldn't tell you the name of the POTUS or whether the earth orbits the sun* so it's not surprising that 20% of Japanese kids did not know (or feel like answering) some particular fact.

    The general Japanese attitude is that "nuclear weapons are terrible and must never be used by anyone against humans again" and not "those filthy American swine nuked us" or "those dirty Ruskies had better not nuke Ukraine." They are opposed to nuclear weapons use by anyone anywhere, it's just that Russia seems to be the one who has been rattling the nuclear rattle recently and they are telling them to cut it out.

    *Somewhere on the interwebs there is a video of someone accosting fresh Harvard grads at graduation and asking them to explain why it is cold in winter and 9 out of 10 of them offer the wrong explanation - that the earth is further away from the sun in winter or something.

    Replies: @Torna atrás, @AnotherDad, @Twinkie

    The Mayor of Nagasaki, however, did not invite representatives of Israel and Russia “in order to have a peaceful ceremony” free of international political acrimony and was swiftly condemned and boycotted by Western governments.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/nagasaki-mayor-defends-israel-snub-at-atomic-bomb-memorial/

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Twinkie

    It was a boss move on his part.

  • @AnotherDad
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    Well, these are the same people who think they won WWII. So …
     
    C'mon, of course the Brits won, or else they would have had their country invaded and occupied by foreigners.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy, @Twinkie, @Colin Wright

    C’mon, of course the Brits won, or else they would have had their country invaded and occupied by foreigners.

    Nothing says total British victory like these men being heads of the government:

    • Agree: Santoculto
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • LOL: Trinity, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Santoculto
    @Twinkie

    And not because they are non White but anti White.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  • Here's Life photographer George Silk's famous 1956 photo of sultry Swedish high jumper Gunhild Larking: Probably the six best-looking human beings I've seen in one place at what one time was at a frozen yogurt shop on the last evening of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in Westwood, CA next to the Olympic Village at...
  • @BB753
    @Twinkie

    Yeah, Nordic women are overrated. If you're looking for blond, slim, feminine women, you'll find them across the Baltic Sea, in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Ukraine or Russia and Belarus ( if you're willing to break the neocon sanctions).
    BTW, Finland, technically, that is, in geographical terms ( and culturally) is not a Scandinavian country, and has far better looking women than Sweden.
    Feminism, liberalism and obesity have ruined Scandinavian women.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Yeah, Nordic women are overrated. If you’re looking for blond, slim, feminine women, you’ll find them across the Baltic Sea, in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Ukraine or Russia and Belarus

    Years ago, my wife and I watched a short documentary about mail order brides from Russia. One of the women running a dating agency for foreign men and Russian women was a Russian expat living in the U.S. When asked what made Russian women so attractive compared to American or British women, she responded with something like:

    “Actually young American and British girls are just as pretty as Russian girls. The difference is that Russian girls as they grow up put much more into appearance than American and British girls. They stay thin and they never leave the house unless they are wearing full makeup, hair done, and wearing a dress. Even to run to the grocery store. Now that I’ve been living in America, I sometimes find – to my horror – that I throw on sweat pants in a hurry, no makeup or hair done, and drive to the grocery store. I don’t look as good as I used to in Russia.”

    And this was years ago. Today, the obesity, the tattoos, and general lack of grooming and putting on a pretty (forget about elegant) appearance have gotten much worse in the U.S. It’s not that Russian women (or Swedish ones) are genetically more attractive due to “low mutational load” or some such pseudo-scientific nonsense. It’s because the rest of the world has gotten richer and the women in some of those country have stayed (still) feminine while women in the West, especially the Anglosphere, are increasingly infected with a bizarre ideology that valorizes ugliness and lack of femininity.

    Now, to be fair, it’s the same with men. When I go to certain parts of Europe or East Asia, I note that men are generally not obese and try dress in a stylish manner. Contrast to the U.S. where – even in affluent areas – men dress and act like slobs. Of course, the difference is that, traditionally in the sexual market, men’s status was judged on their career success and women by their beauty, so men have always been less “into looks” than women. But still, when you look at the photographs and video footages from the 1950’s and 60’s America (or even the 1980’s), the collapse in standards of appearance is shocking. Priests shouldn’t have to repeatedly admonish their parishioners, “Please let’s dress our ‘Sunday best’ for the Lord. Please let us not come to Mass in t-shirts or shorts.”

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    @Twinkie

    I agree with most of what you said . Except staying thin is not as easy as it sounds. It's not like dressing pretty or acting in a ladylike way. For some reason, American women have gotten fatter. It's got to be the food or a tendency among a subset of the population, of North Western origin. Samoans are prone to obesity too. Could it be partly genetic? ( And black women are even fatter than white women in America).

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    , @Anon
    @Twinkie

    American women dressed well back in the days in which they had to marry to earn a living. Now they can be a slob and still survive.

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  • The Olympic 100 meter dash consists, for the top sprinters, of a first round of heats, a semifinal, and then an eight-man final. In the last eleven Olympics from 1984 through 2024, men with at least one sub-Saharan parent have earned 87 of the 88 spots in the finals. Su Bingtian of China broke the...
  • @Truth
    @Twinkie


    Yamashita was 5’11” (and about 290 lbs in his prime). Teddy Riner is 6’8″ (and 311 lbs).
     
    So you're an advocate for height classes now?

    Dude, you're a genius, I am deferring to your wisdom, here is a documentary on Yamashita vs Saito. And Yamashita wasn't really that long ago, in your EXPERT opinion, who was better?

    A guy who trained with Yamashita says he would have beaten Riner.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HySQgaGsb4o&t=1182s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvkIWLmcj0

    Replies: @Twinkie

    So you’re an advocate for height classes now?

    You do realize that 5’11” and 290 lbs and 6’8” 311 lbs have physique differences, right?

    There is a reason why the heaviest (no weight limit) weight classes in Judo for both men and women are the least athletic and competitive of the divisions. They are filled with extremely blubbery looking “whales” who clearly move the worst of all the competitive Judoka across the weight classes.

    Yamashita was one of the greats, to be sure, having gone undefeated in 200+ matches and never having lost to a non-Japanese player ever. But he fought in a different period with very different rulesets than Teddy Riner, so comparisons are not just difficult, they are useless.

    That said, if we ignored all the competition rulesets, and just made them hold standard grips on each other and saw who threw whom, I’d speculate that it’d likely be Yamashita throwing Riner. As I mentioned before, many French players, and Teddy Riner in particular, rely greatly on “negative Judo” via defensive gripping and playing Shido (penalty) games, something that is occasionally described as “Europeanization of Judo.”

    Never in his life has Riner ever thrown someone like this, despite fighting smaller competitors:

    Video Link
    Shohei Ono has lost only ten matches in his entire (senior) career. I think he lost one match in the last 8-9 years of his career. And something like 65% of his matches were won with Ippon (total victory). He is is far the most dominant Judo athlete of the last ten years or so. Don’t take my word for it, listen to Travis Stevens, the Olympic silver medalist in Judo and one of the best in the world in his day.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Twinkie

    OK, your opinion is that Ono is the best Judoka of all time. I cannot diminish the accomplishments of a man who has medaled in 5 Olympics. But I understand that I took judo for a few months, and you claim to have been doing it for 40 years.

    In any event, your opinion is FAR from universal.

    A random search of "Best Judokas" came up with this list; Riner is rated #7, Ono not at all. And they went all the way back to Mifune, whom I was aware of, in the ratings.

    https://playersbio.com/best-judokas/

    This list has Riner #2 Ono, #10

    https://sportsfoundation.org/best-judo-athletes-of-all-time/

    Riner#3, Ono not included:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkhBoK6LRi0

    Riner #3, Ono not included:

    https://www.lvshaolin.com/the-best-of-the-best-the-top-10-judokas-of-all-time/

    And is there an incredible difference in skill here? I don't see it, but again I'm a casual. Your boy does have 2 or 3 more athletic throws, but the rest are similar.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TzIO1mzbsE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7z06Uca3Y&t=215s

    Hey, good job anyway.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • From the New York Times: Aren't there any critics of Kamala who think it's the right strategy for her to prevent her from going viral with another lame gaffe? Isn't the big secret about Kamala that there is no secret: she's just a basic old sorority girl? From Politico: Why Harris isn’t taking questions By...
  • @epebble
    @Twinkie

    He may be a comedian, but it is an extraordinarily honest noticing. Has there been a similar admission anytime by a Muslim Mullah or a Catholic priest?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Has there been a similar admission anytime by a Muslim Mullah or a Catholic priest?

    Nothing by a Mullah or a Rabbi.

    But have you been napping on the Popes?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/pope-francis/pope-francis-apologizes-catholic-priest-sex-abuse-scandal-sorrow-shame-n902121

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    @Twinkie

    That is a truly heartfelt apology. I think Pope Francis is truly a great and honorable man than a politician/administrator (as most religious heads are). It is a shame that many in the hierarchy speak ill of him.

  • @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    derived from my firsthand experience working as a volunteer for an abortion clinic.

    I speak for everyone on the planet, Steve himself, and most of the dead when I ask this ask as asking as I might, WHAT THE HELL?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I went through a brief socialist phase as a young man (yes, I was reading Bertrand Russell) and, being curious about where rubber met the road in leftist political causes, tried to experience it firsthand by volunteering for various causes.

    And, yes, there were pretty girls in those causes. 😉

    But, in all seriousness, Planned Parenthood was a wake up call, an experience I shall not forget to my dying days

  • @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I posted about nanny shtupping in particular and you gave so long rant about Jews being involved in Me Too type incidents which is a different phenomenon and did not address the fact that all of the famous nanny shtuppers (aside from Emhoff) were NOT Jewish. So nanny shtupping doesn't appear to be a particularly Jewish thing. To which you have no rebuttal so you change the subject and talk about Me Too some more instead.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    LOL. Now you are in charge of topic control around here?

    So, is the topic of the role of Jews in pornography also off-limits due to “antisemitism”?

  • What's going to happen to all the Olympic sports whose American college programs train many Olympians from around the world now that college football players are finally going to be paid at close to market rates, presumably leaving less profit to subsidize minor college sports? I'm sure the world will continue spinning if, for instance,...
  • @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber


    Novo Nordisk reported net income of $7.95 billion on $29.9 billion of assets in 2023. Eli Lilly reported net income of $5.24 billion on $64 billion of assets in 2023. You really like those scare quotes. At least this time you aren’t being racist.
     
    It is the job of any company to make money for its owners. I expect that from the companies I own a piece of (directly or in funds).

    When the rate of profit developing drugs is higher than it is say building cars, then relatively more investment will go into new drug development/production than new car development/production.

    If you think that drug prices are "too high" you can lobby to have the government cap them. But the result will be that there will be less investment in new drug development. Maybe that's fine. Or maybe the drug that doesn't get developed as soon is the one you needed. (I've been rather fortunate to be a pretty healthy guy and don't take any prescription drugs. But what's up ahead?)

    People have a vast sense of entitlement. And a rather narrow focus. They'll bitch about the drug they "need"--that did not exist five years ago--costing a packet and think because they "need" it, it should be free (or at cost of production or something). You can always settle for the next best thing that has been around for a while and off patent and much cheaper. No one is "screwing" you, the drug you "need" did not exist until someone did the lab work, testing, approval and production. If they hadn't done that work, the drug would simply not exist, not be available for you at all at any price.

    We could have the government do precisely this--no patent protection, all drugs sell for the cost of production (plus some small profit for the manufacturer). Fine ... but then no one is going to invest a dime developing new drugs.

    People can think whatever they like about all this, but they should be honest about the tradeoffs. It takes a bunch of labor and capital to find, create, test and produce new drugs ... just like it does new software, or new airplanes or new jet engines or new car models. If folks can't make a good profit for doing it--including a healthy profit for doing it really well and having a "hit"--then they simply won't do it.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Moshe Def, @Twinkie

    People have a vast sense of entitlement. And a rather narrow focus. They’ll bitch about the drug they “need”–that did not exist five years ago–costing a packet and think because they “need” it, it should be free (or at cost of production or something). You can always settle for the next best thing that has been around for a while and off patent and much cheaper. No one is “screwing” you, the drug you “need” did not exist until someone did the lab work, testing, approval and production. If they hadn’t done that work, the drug would simply not exist, not be available for you at all at any price.

    This entitlement mentality is omnipresent, but is particularly pronounced in healthcare for obvious reasons. In short, people demand that it should be 1) high quality, 2) low cost, and 3) easily and widely available and accessible.

    As you are aware, this is not possible in the real world. As you wrote, this requires a trade off.

    That said, both in drug development and healthcare in general, the American consumer pays an enormously inflated premium for the massive administrative state that has risen:

    The U.S. per capita spending in “administration” in healthcare is more than 13 times that in Sweden and more than 9 times than in the UK, and 5 times more that in Canada, for example. Switzerland is generally considered to have healthcare costs that are similar or only slightly lower than those of the U.S. – in other words, it’s often described as the country with the second highest cost of healthcare in the world – and unsurprisingly it has the second highest per capita administrative cost in healthcare in the world after the U.S.

    No matter how much we try to optimize among quality, cost, and access of actual healthcare provision, we will always have extremely expensive overall healthcare (and drugs) costs unless the administrative costs are dramatically reduced.

    • Thanks: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Twinkie

    I think a large part of administrative costs are 1) pass the potato/bill to someone else and 2) compliance with guvmint regulations.

    One advantage of true universal health care is that reason 1 might go away.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @guest007
    @Twinkie

    Administrator is a very vague category? How exactly counts that is actually part of patient care such as pharmacist, medical lab personnel, x-ray techs, nurses and who is doing nothing but carrying a clip board. A link to the graph would have been nice so that I could have looked it up myself.

    I did find an article pointing out everything wrong with the graph and how it could not possibly be correct.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    "we will always have extremely expensive overall healthcare (and drugs) costs unless the administrative costs are dramatically reduced."

    I dunno, man. I see it differently. Way back in the Pleistocene, I was a sort of grunt-factotum in hospitals, clinics and emergency rooms in several large cities: I did every stoopid thing that needed to be done which didn't require a medical degree. I was a transcriber, an admitting intake historian, the guy who battled with insurance companies billing depts and argued with translators, I mopped the floors, held down the crack psychos til they could be restrained, and told bad jokes to the kids.

    In my experience these places were all clean, efficient, well-run, and (importantly, inspiring patient confidence) unfailingly professional. I couldn't identify a single person who wasn't doing something useful-slash-vital. I didn't see any administrative waste.

    You know what causes cost overruns? LATINOS! Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos y Latinos... y ninos y ninos y ninos y ninos y ninos y ninos y ninos y ninos y ninos.

    American hospitals were built for Americans: they are not supposed to be an International Battered Womens Shelter.

  • @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    No, no, it's perfectly alright, you see, it's true that the Germanics are overrunning us and many Romans are getting murdered, but, you see, the Chatti have got the Marcomanni on the back foot, so no one barbarian tribe is dominating.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Twinkie

    They both have to go back. 😉

  • Here's Life photographer George Silk's famous 1956 photo of sultry Swedish high jumper Gunhild Larking: Probably the six best-looking human beings I've seen in one place at what one time was at a frozen yogurt shop on the last evening of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in Westwood, CA next to the Olympic Village at...
  • @J.Ross
    @ScarletNumber

    Too old to look at? Doesn't that generally work the other way?

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    I’m referring to AnotherDad‘s stated fondness for 16-year-old girls.

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    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @ScarletNumber

    I don't think fondness for 16-year-old girls is a solitary taste. Were you never 16?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQv23z8QcqA

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Mike Tre
    @ScarletNumber

    Ironic coming from a member of an institution that pretty much leads all subcategories of underage sexual relations.

  • @ScarletNumber
    @AnotherDad


    I enjoyed seeing the Dutch women on the track.
     
    Aren't they too old for you?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad

    I enjoyed seeing the Dutch women on the track.

    Aren’t they too old for you?

    I make allowances for the athletically fit.

    • LOL: Twinkie
  • A quarter-century ago in 1999 The Matrix entered our theaters and became an instant film classic as well as a colossal blockbuster, earning nearly $500 million at the box office. There were also interesting epistemological implications to the notion that our own world was merely the illusion created within a computer simulation, hiding the grim...
  • However, I’ve always thought it a little unfair that this tremendous success so completely overshadowed a different Hollywood film released that same year that dealt with a similar theme. I’ve seen The Thirteenth Floor a couple of times, and although I’d hardly rank it alongside its far better known rival, I thought the plot included some interesting ideas and felt it might have gotten far more attention under other circumstances.

    There is a scene in that film that struck a chord with me. It’s when the protagonist reached the edge of the town.

    I had a similar, real life experience. Some decades ago, I lived in a small, Midwestern town for a few years and, one day, decided on a whim to drive on a town road to see where it led. It ended abruptly with a corn field – it was literally the edge of the town. So I drove the opposite way and then it also ended with a corn field. I smiled and muttered something like, “I am a rat in a corn maze (that’d be a maize maze, I guess). There is no escape.”

    If yo liked The Thirteenth Floor, you might also enjoy a similar film that was released a year earlier in 1998 called Dark City.

    Video Link

    The Matrix didn’t arise out of nothingness all of sudden. There was a series of films like these in those years. I think there was a rising consciousness among people that the tremendous growth of information technology was making the willful divorce between object reality and perception not only possible, but more pervasive and salient.

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    • Thanks: Dr. Rock, ld, Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Twinkie

    Anything with Connolly in it. Yes.

    , @Ron Unz
    @Twinkie


    If yo liked The Thirteenth Floor, you might also enjoy a similar film that was released a year earlier in 1998 called Dark City.
     
    Sure, I saw it once in the theater and then a couple of times on DVD, and thought it was excellent, even better than The Thirteenth Floor.
    , @Happy Tapir
    @Twinkie

    I also liked the wachowski brothers Jupiter Rising. It’s goofy but fun. It’s sort of their homage to jodorowsky and Mobius.

    Good pick up on dark city and matrix. Regarding the similarities between certain movies at certain times. All media are allegorizations of certain individuals whom the Zionists are harassing or targeting. i’m not sure of the precise mechanism, but basically a chief Cabbalist of some sort puts out certain stipulations about what a story will be about, and then the various filmmakers do the best they can with it. All songs, movies, media are really about this, believe it or not. The result of this at one time was the matrix and dark city, and apparently 13th floor. This accounts for the similarities of certain recurrent themes and ideas in films. I tried to watch 13th floor, one time as people informed me it was similar to the matrix and dark city when I talked about this topic once before, but I really couldn’t get into 13th floor. I’ll try to watch it again.

    So at certain times in history, they’ve been after syndicates or groups of individuals. Specifically there were two recent groups, the old radicals and the new radicals. The new radicals were the 90s, and I suspect they were the group of individuals around Matthew Hale, but I’m not sure of that. All of this is inferential on my part. Anyway, the matrix is about one of the new radicals. Basically they had the idea that a lot of the media is fake news or a lot of history is made up, typical altright fare notions, and this was elaborated in the unreality of dark city, 13th floor and matrix.

    Interestingly, that is why the red pill blue pill dichotomy fits the altright so well. It was originally an allegory about that topic in an earlier form! In a sense that’s really what red pill blue pill was really about.

    So both matrix and dark city (I haven’t seen 13th floor yet) are about a specific real individual. He physically resembles Keanu Reeves and the guy in dark city. These people are harassing him or tormenting him with some device or some thing, (it’s a deep state device based on ultrasonic sound waves in reality), and he dreams of being able to do to them what they are doing to him back to them, hence he transcends at the end, and achieves the ability to fight them. And that’s what it’s about.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Twinkie

    Verhoeven's Total Recall introduced the red pill = awakening concept a full decade before The Matrix.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Twinkie

    David Cronenberg’s Existenz, released a couple of months after The Matrix, touched on similar themes as well. Hollywood copycatting is a well-documented phenomenon. It’s like, an idea suddenly becomes popular and studios rush to get their film out first. Other examples from just the 90’s include Dante’s Peak/Volcano, and Armageddon/Deep Impact.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @BlackFlag
    @Twinkie

    Matrix is a stylized, action copy of Dark City, iirc.

  • Here's Life photographer George Silk's famous 1956 photo of sultry Swedish high jumper Gunhild Larking: Probably the six best-looking human beings I've seen in one place at what one time was at a frozen yogurt shop on the last evening of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics in Westwood, CA next to the Olympic Village at...
  • @BB753
    Alas, modern Swedish women tend to be on the fat side and to display masculine features. And I'm talking about the natives. 1984 was 40 years ago, Steve. The world has changed, not for the better.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Twinkie

    Alas, modern Swedish women tend to be on the fat side and to display masculine features. And I’m talking about the natives. 1984 was 40 years ago, Steve. The world has changed, not for the better.

    It might be worth quoting myself here about the Swedes: https://www.unz.com/isteve/swedish-mothers-vs-italian-mothers/#comment-6282727

    There is a weird fetish about Swedish women in this country. I think much of it is due to clever marketing (like “The Swedish Bikini Team,” which wasn’t Swedish at all, but an American beer marketing campaign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Bikini_Team ).

    I first visited Scandinavia in the early 1990’s (had a female Swedish friend – not a girlfriend, just a friend – and I went to visit her and her family). Even though the Swedish GDP per capita at the time had nearly doubled in the preceding decade, I recall not being impressed by it – much of Sweden looked surprisingly grey and drab (and after I visited it, Sweden fell into a deep recession, from which it took some years to recover). Things have changed since then, of course, and Sweden is much richer and even the architecture is more vibrant looking now (although, unfortunately, so is the population – more VibrantTM).

    And, yes, I did see attractive young women in Sweden (my friend was quite pretty as well), but college age females were pretty attractive in many other places too. They didn’t look especially more attractive than Americans and other Europeans of similar age and background in those days. From what I could tell back then (and since), older Swedish women looked a lot like older American and other European counterparts – for example, this was (is) probably typical:

    In general, I found them much less elegant than Italian women I saw when I visited that country. Even though, aesthetically I prefer the blonde, blue-eyed look, Italian women were, on average, more fashionable and, dare I say, sexier than Swedish women. They oozed a certain femininity that the Swedish women seemed not to display.

    The most physically attractive concentration of women I ever saw was at a Russian bar in Brighton Beach in the 1980’s – it was full of exquisite-looking young Eastern European women. Alas, my friends and I were promptly thrown out in short order (we were underaged).

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    @Twinkie

    Yeah, Nordic women are overrated. If you're looking for blond, slim, feminine women, you'll find them across the Baltic Sea, in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Ukraine or Russia and Belarus ( if you're willing to break the neocon sanctions).
    BTW, Finland, technically, that is, in geographical terms ( and culturally) is not a Scandinavian country, and has far better looking women than Sweden.
    Feminism, liberalism and obesity have ruined Scandinavian women.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • From the New York Times: Aren't there any critics of Kamala who think it's the right strategy for her to prevent her from going viral with another lame gaffe? Isn't the big secret about Kamala that there is no secret: she's just a basic old sorority girl? From Politico: Why Harris isn’t taking questions By...
  • @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    So no answer to the fact that 14 out of 14 nanny screwers were not Jewish and Catholics were prevalent.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    So no answer to the fact that 14 out of 14 nanny screwers were not Jewish and Catholics were prevalent.

    This is just sad. If you like making up your own questions and answers, you don’t have to do it public.

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    • Replies: @epebble
    @Twinkie

    He may be a comedian, but it is an extraordinarily honest noticing. Has there been a similar admission anytime by a Muslim Mullah or a Catholic priest?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I posted about nanny shtupping in particular and you gave so long rant about Jews being involved in Me Too type incidents which is a different phenomenon and did not address the fact that all of the famous nanny shtuppers (aside from Emhoff) were NOT Jewish. So nanny shtupping doesn't appear to be a particularly Jewish thing. To which you have no rebuttal so you change the subject and talk about Me Too some more instead.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Arnold Schwarzenegger is Jewish? Who knew?

    Despite it appearing to be something else, Schwarzenegger is a place name - one who is from the town of Schwarzeneg ("Black Ridge") so he isn't black. According to your logic, he must be Jewish.

    Robin Williams was another such famous "Jew". Why, there are "Jews" all over if you look.

    I didn't know that blacks were known for nanny-shtupping. Generally speak, black men will shtup anything on two legs but I don't think most of them have live in nannies.

    Here is a list of 14 celebrities who allegedly had affairs with their nannies (it's a trend!):

    https://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/slideshow/3611/celebrity-nanny-affairs/1/

    I don't think any of them are Jewish (my Jew sniffing skills are not as good as the Men of Unz - maybe there is a Jew in there that escaped my notice). I think the most represented group in that list is Italian (Catholic).

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Mark G., @Twinkie

    Arnold Schwarzenegger is Jewish? Who knew?

    This sounds a lot like, “But white people commit crimes too! In fact, they are the majority of the criminals in this country! So associating blacks with criminality is totally racist!”

    Generally speak, black men will shtup anything on two legs

    Generalizing about blacks, TRUTH! Generalizing about Jews? Why you dirty, dirty antisemite!

    Let’s get back to what I wrote, shall we?

    Say, do you ever note that males from two ethno-racial groups, in particular, in this country seem to be disproportionately involved in these kinds of sexual shenanigans (apparently from the inability to control animal instincts), including all these “me too” incidents – blacks and the ethnic group to which Doug Emhoff belongs?

    I wasn’t referring specifically and narrowly to dalliances with a nanny. I was referring to sexual transgressions in general. You clearly recognize that black (or as you frequently and archaically call them “negro”) men disproportionately tend to be involved in such behaviors. You also, in the past, have repeated leftist talking points about the abuse scandal in the Catholic Church, despite those talking points being grossly distorted. But an observation about Jewish men seem to send you into a tizzy. Let’s see what this one dirty antisemite, “Rabbi Daniel Brenner” wrote about it: https://jweekly.com/2018/01/24/tough-jewish-men-admit-metoo-us/

    Like a lot of other Jewish men, I have been quietly keeping a scorecard of the number of Jewish men in the #MeToo headlines.

    Harvey Weinstein, Dustin Hoffman, Jeffrey Tambor, Mark Halperin, Leon Wieseltier, James Toback, Israel Horowitz, Al Franken, James Levine, Jeremy Piven, Woody Allen, Brett Ratner, Michael Oreskes, Bruce Weber — all have been accused in one way or another of sexual assault or harassment, primarily in the workplace. Let’s not forget that Anthony Weiner is currently in a cell in a federal penitentiary in Massachusetts for sending obscene material to a minor, and Rabbi Barry Freundel will be spending the next five years behind bars for videotaping women as they prepared for a ritual bath. The list is even longer, and as the list has grown, so has the quiet shame that many Jewish men are feeling.

    When Larry David opened his latest monologue on “Saturday Night Live” by joking about the “very disturbing pattern” of Jewish men among the accused, he was slammed by the Anti-Defamation League for being both “offensive” and “insensitive” and got an earful from the Twitter-verse. When Mark Oppenheimer wrote in Tablet magazine that Weinstein is a “deeply Jewish kind of pervert,” he had to follow up quickly with a public apology for implying that there was a unique type of Jewish sexual perversion.

    And let’s take a look at what this other dirty antisemite “Mark Oppenheimer” wrote:

    The Specifically Jewy Perviness of Harvey Weinstein
    The disgraced film producer is a character straight out of Philip Roth, playing out his revenge fantasies on the Goyim

    Better than perhaps any other author, Roth captured the particular anxiety of the Jewish American man in the twentieth century, finally coming into power but, having not grown up with it, unsure of what he’s supposed to do now. All those years craving unattainable Gentiles, but never before the means to entice them.

    Harvey is cut from the same cloth. Growing up in Queens, he fantasized of fame and fortune, and, once he got them, he struggled to maintain them by building himself into a larger-than-life figure. He yelled at employees like he was a studio boss from the 1920s—the only thing missing was a riding crop. He ran Oscars campaigns like they used to in Old Hollywood. And he harassed women not necessarily to use them as instruments of his pleasure, but to use them as instruments of his power.

    It goes without saying that nearly every one of these women—Rose McGowan, Ambra Batillana, Laura Madden, Ashley Judd, etc.—was a Gentile, all the better to feed Weinstein’s revenge-tinged fantasy of having risen above his outer-borough, bridge-and-tunnel Semitic origins.

    I guess these authors are self-loathing Jews who need to grovel and seek forgiveness for their self-hate:

    Editor’s note: Since its publication, an apology has been issued about this piece.

    Yesterday I published a piece on Harvey Weinstein that many found offensive. The analysis I offered was hasty and ill-considered, especially in light of the even graver accusations that were published by the New Yorker this morning. I take this as a lesson in the importance of knowing as much as one can about a given story, and in taking the time to think and feel things completely through before opining. I apologize for not doing so in this case.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    So no answer to the fact that 14 out of 14 nanny screwers were not Jewish and Catholics were prevalent.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    Olympic boxers wear headgear and the matches are for only 3 or 4 rounds totaling 8 or 9 minutes so I think the risk of brain damage is less than for professional boxing. I can't say it is zero but logically it should be a lot less.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Johann Ricke

    Olympic boxers wear headgear and the matches are for only 3 or 4 rounds totaling 8 or 9 minutes so I think the risk of brain damage is less than for professional boxing. I can’t say it is zero but logically it should be a lot less.

    Brain damage is cumulative and much of it comes from training (especially hard sparring), not the actual matches. And in that context, the efficacy of headgear in reducing brain injury is unclear (headgear is effective in preventing cuts and external damage to the head).

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    The Church – quite appropriately – automatically excommunicates any Catholic
     
    In general, you are better catechized than I am, but doesn't the Church simply recognize that the communicant has excommunicated himself, through his actions? It's kind of like marriage, in which the couple administer the sacrament themselves, not the priest.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    doesn’t the Church simply recognize that the communicant has excommunicated himself, through his actions?

    Yes. Hence “automatically.”

  • What's going to happen to all the Olympic sports whose American college programs train many Olympians from around the world now that college football players are finally going to be paid at close to market rates, presumably leaving less profit to subsidize minor college sports? I'm sure the world will continue spinning if, for instance,...
  • The way US colleges train such a large number of other countries’ Olympians using college football revenue

    Do you actually have citations for:

    1. “US colleges train such a large number of other countries’ Olympians…” and
    2. They do so “using college football revenue”?

    Most developed countries have lavishly state-funded (and often state-directed) Olympic athlete development programs. While some athletes might train in the U.S., because that might be where the best coaches or competition might be for their specific sports (e.g. swimming or tennis), this is not the case for many other Olympic sports.

    For example, Judo is traditionally the Olympic sport with the greatest number of participating countries. And internationally competitive Judo athletes often train in places such as Japan, France, and South Korea, and not the U.S. which is quite weak in the sport (the U.S. has had only one female gold medalist in Judo – Kayla Harrison who did it twice – but never a male gold medalist). For example, Canada’s recently crowned Olympic Judo gold medalist (its first in history) Christa Deguchi was raised and trained in Japan and then switched representation to Canada a few years ago (her father is a Canadian citizen) – she still lives and trains in Japan.

    If Judo is too “exotic,” we can use the example of wrestling. Olympic wrestling has freestyle and Greco-Roman while the dominant form of wrestling in the U.S. is “American folk style” that no other country has. No foreign wrestlers train in the U.S. to compete at the Olympics (Russia and Japan are powerhouses – countries in Eurasian “wrestling belt” running from the Caucasus through Iran and Central Asia also do well). U.S. usually does well internationally, but the American male wrestlers fared relatively poorly this year, winning no gold medal in the sport for the first time in over half a century.

    If wrestling is too “fringe,” how about baseball, supposedly America’s pastime? Although it’s not at the 2024 Olympics, it was present up and until the 2008 and then was revived for the 2020 (2021) Tokyo Games. In the last six Olympics where there was baseball, the U.S. won gold only once in 2000, while Cuba won three times while Japan and South Korea also won once each. Although all three countries (eventually) send some of their athletes to play professionally in the U.S., they have native baseball programs that train these athletes. These athletes are – almost exclusively – developed in their own countries’ national programs, not by American colleges subsidized by college football programs.

    • Agree: Torna atrás
    • Replies: @Torna atrás
    @Twinkie

    India has appealed the disqualification of Vinesh Phogat from the women's 50kg Freestyle Wrestling final for being 100g overweight at weigh-in to CAS, seeking instatement of a Silver medal. The case is being heard before a sole arbitrator and the outcome was due to be announced today but has been postponed to August 13th.

    Beyond fault of the weighing apparatus or failure of officials to adhere to procedure at the weigh-in, I find it difficult to envision the grounds for a successful appeal. Knowing nothing about wrestling, boxing or other events that use weight divisions, the boundaries may be unforgiving of even slight variations in weight, and the tight schedule of the Olympic competition may have complicated typical recovery practices, yet these conditions are known in advance and it is the athlete's choice to carry themselves so close to the limit that they are at risk of being over.

    Apparently Vinesh Phogat and her team went to considerable lengths to bring her weight down overnight. It seems to have been a fairly grueling endeavour:


    Last Tuesday, Vinesh became the first Indian woman wrestler to reach an Olympic final after she won three straight bouts, including the opener against world no. 1 and then-defending champion Yui Susaki of Japan. While she was well within the permissible limit during the weigh-in before the preliminary rounds, her weight increased [by] almost three kilos by Tuesday night [....] Vinesh stayed awake all night before the gold-medal bout, jogging and skipping to lose weight. Her support staff even went to the extent of cutting her hair and drawing out blood. However, the 29-year-old was still found to be 100 grams over the allowed limit during the morning weigh-in.
     
    In combat sports, you are expected the make weight. Even a crappy mma regional promotion is pretty harsh on fighters who miss weight.

    But somehow India thinks it is the victim at missing weight at the HIGHEST levels of the Olympics at the finals??!?!?

    India is not new to wrestling here. They know how it's done. Hell they keep boasting they are like a superpower at it. So they should know better then.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  • The Olympic 100 meter dash consists, for the top sprinters, of a first round of heats, a semifinal, and then an eight-man final. In the last eleven Olympics from 1984 through 2024, men with at least one sub-Saharan parent have earned 87 of the 88 spots in the finals. Su Bingtian of China broke the...
  • @Truth
    @Twinkie

    So your opinion is that Yahusiro Yamashita would have beaten Teddy Riner? He was 300 lbs.

    What about Hitoshi Saito? he was about 315 in his prime.

    They are considered, from what I understand, two of the best ever, and they are HEAVYHWEIGHTS.


    He died aged 54 from cholangiocarcinoma, a rare but rapidly progressing and incurable form of liver cancer.[5][6] After his death Saito was promoted by the Kodokan to 9th dan rank in judo and was also awarded the Order of the Rising Sun, Gold Rays with Rosette by the Japanese Emperor.[7]
     
    Saito was from many generations of Judo, and probably samurai heritage, and his son Tatsuru is an outstanding judoka now. He won an World Championships silver medal, and has of course trained since birth (Riner started as a pre-teen after playing soccer).

    The younger Saito, who is 6'2 300+ lbs., lost early in the competition this year, and has already lost to Riner multiple times.

    https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2024/08/3758fa9aaa6b-olympics-riner-saito-inch-closer-to-heavyweight-judo-gold-showdown.html

    So that's it, Old Sport, don't hate, congratulate. If a Korean ever wins a Taekwondo medal again, I will give him full credit.*

    (*Haha, yes I know you guys still OCCASIONALLY medal in your national sport, where a third of the population holds a black belt. I almost had to kick one 130 lb. guy's azz in Kyung Ju 25 years ago... but that's a subject for another post.)

    Replies: @Twinkie

    So your opinion is that Yahusiro Yamashita would have beaten Teddy Riner?

    Stop making up things I didn’t write. I don’t play “Babe Ruth would have beaten Hank Aaron” type of speculations, because they are idiotic.

    Yamashita was 5’11” (and about 290 lbs in his prime). Teddy Riner is 6’8″ (and 311 lbs).

    In the last ten years or so, the consensus best Judoka has been Shohei Ono, not Teddy Riner. Ono’s division – U73 kg – was absolutely stacked with some of the best Judoka of the period and Ono dominated them all.

    As I mentioned before, Riner fought in the least competitive division and always fought those who were considerably smaller than he.

    If a Korean ever wins a Taekwondo medal again, I will give him full credit.*

    What a strange thing to write. South Korea won the most gold medals in Tae Kwon Do at the Paris Olympics as did Japan in Judo.

    where a third of the population holds a black belt

    Each country is highly limited in the number of athletes it can field for the Olympics in both sports. For example, the 2-time world champion in the men’s U66 kg division in Judo, Joshiro Maruyama, didn’t get to compete at the Olympics, because Japan could only field ONE athlete per division and the spot went to Hifumi Abe who won gold at the Tokyo Games and again at the Paris Games just now.

    I almost had to kick one 130 lb. guy’s azz in Kyung Ju 25 years ago

    Almost?

    Was this you?

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Twinkie


    Yamashita was 5’11” (and about 290 lbs in his prime). Teddy Riner is 6’8″ (and 311 lbs).
     
    So you're an advocate for height classes now?

    Dude, you're a genius, I am deferring to your wisdom, here is a documentary on Yamashita vs Saito. And Yamashita wasn't really that long ago, in your EXPERT opinion, who was better?

    A guy who trained with Yamashita says he would have beaten Riner.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HySQgaGsb4o&t=1182s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvkIWLmcj0

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • From the New York Times: Aren't there any critics of Kamala who think it's the right strategy for her to prevent her from going viral with another lame gaffe? Isn't the big secret about Kamala that there is no secret: she's just a basic old sorority girl? From Politico: Why Harris isn’t taking questions By...
  • @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I realize abortion is a scary word for Catholics but what reflection is it on Kamala if years before she met Emhoff , his mistress aborted a child vs. putting it up for adoption? Even putting aside that all this has nothing to do with Kamala, if the child was given up for adoption, does this make Emhoff somehow less sleazy and if the mother decided to abort he is more of a sleaze?

    To me the hilarious thing about these nanny-shtupping incidents (see also Arnold) is that the nanny in question is not usually some lithe gorgeous young thing that even a saint might be tempted to shtup like you might imagine. They are short and fat and quite plain. I do wonder whether these men actually pursued these women or whether it was vice versa and they just didn't have the character to say no when a freebie was offered. Of course, "free" is never free.

    Trump had to pay Playboy model Karen McDougal but at least he got his money's worth.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @SafeNow, @Twinkie

    I realize abortion is a scary word for Catholics

    Abortion is not “a scary word for Catholics.” That is some sort of a projection on your part.

    What abortion is an evil practice of extinction of a young human life, usually for the convenience of the woman involved and the financial benefit of the “doctor” performing it. The Church – quite appropriately – automatically excommunicates any Catholic getting it, performing it, facilitating it or helping it.

    And I was a pro-lifer long before I was a Catholic, a position that was derived from my firsthand experience working as a volunteer for an abortion clinic.

    To me the hilarious thing about these nanny-shtupping incidents (see also Arnold) is that the nanny in question is not usually some lithe gorgeous young thing that even a saint might be tempted to shtup like you might imagine. They are short and fat and quite plain. I do wonder whether these men actually pursued these women or whether it was vice versa and they just didn’t have the character to say no when a freebie was offered. Of course, “free” is never free.

    Some people are very animal-like. It’s not about beauty or attraction for them. It’s just lust.

    Say, do you ever note that males from two ethno-racial groups, in particular, in this country seem to be disproportionately involved in these kinds of sexual shenanigans (apparently from the inability to control animal instincts), including all these “me too” incidents – blacks and the ethnic group to which Doug Emhoff belongs?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Arnold Schwarzenegger is Jewish? Who knew?

    Despite it appearing to be something else, Schwarzenegger is a place name - one who is from the town of Schwarzeneg ("Black Ridge") so he isn't black. According to your logic, he must be Jewish.

    Robin Williams was another such famous "Jew". Why, there are "Jews" all over if you look.

    I didn't know that blacks were known for nanny-shtupping. Generally speak, black men will shtup anything on two legs but I don't think most of them have live in nannies.

    Here is a list of 14 celebrities who allegedly had affairs with their nannies (it's a trend!):

    https://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/slideshow/3611/celebrity-nanny-affairs/1/

    I don't think any of them are Jewish (my Jew sniffing skills are not as good as the Men of Unz - maybe there is a Jew in there that escaped my notice). I think the most represented group in that list is Italian (Catholic).

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar, @Mark G., @Twinkie

    , @AceDeuce
    @Twinkie

    Remember Dominique Strauss-Kahn? Or should I say (((Dominique Strauss-Kahn)))?

    He was the "Frenchman" who was managing director of the UN's International Monetary Fund. He scrogged an ugly African maid while staying at a luxury hotel in NYC in 2011.

    Evidently, it was consensual (shudder) but the negro gal accused him of rape. He was arrested, and forced to resign, which had worldwide ramifications politically and economically.

    Turns out she pretty much set him up, the sex was indeed consensual (shudder), and over time, she
    was caught engaging in a series of lies to authorities about Strauss-Kahn and other matters. He was eventually cleared of all charges. She still went after him in civil court and got a cool million or so to just go away.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Joe Stalin

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    The Church – quite appropriately – automatically excommunicates any Catholic
     
    In general, you are better catechized than I am, but doesn't the Church simply recognize that the communicant has excommunicated himself, through his actions? It's kind of like marriage, in which the couple administer the sacrament themselves, not the priest.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    derived from my firsthand experience working as a volunteer for an abortion clinic.

    I speak for everyone on the planet, Steve himself, and most of the dead when I ask this ask as asking as I might, WHAT THE HELL?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @James B. Shearer
    @Twinkie

    "...The Church – quite appropriately – automatically excommunicates any Catholic getting it, performing it, facilitating it or helping it."

    What does this mean in practice? Nancy Pelosi is still receiving communion. See here .

    , @jsm
    @Twinkie

    The Church – quite appropriately – automatically excommunicates any Catholic getting it, performing it, facilitating it or helping it.


    What does the Church say about abortions performed because the mother is literally suffering starvation, from Hyperemesis Gravidarum?

    , @Curle
    @Twinkie


    What abortion is an evil practice of extinction of a young human life
     
    Exactly. It’s like meth. Best way to never adopt the habit is to never indulge it. Not even once.
  • @Twinkie
    Kamala is doing exactly what Biden did for the 2020 campaign - what someone called a basement campaign.

    Both are prone to awkward gaffes and have no upside to doing interviews. But that’s okay, that just means the GOP can keep running old footage like the “Have you been to the border?” bit or the “Be woke” bit.

    Democrats act like Biden’s dementia was some big new discovery (“We’ve been lied to!”), but he was already manifesting it prior to the 2020 election, which culminated with him introducing his granddaughter as his deceased son and then “correcting” the mistake by confusing her with her cousin.

    https://youtu.be/2dVlO5-zELE?si=I7udVLMM997VBbYP

    No, it was there already and the press just “nothing to do see here” the whole thing.

    As others have pointed out, the press is now on full-court press to throw the election to Kamala. Witness the New York Times’ brief coverage of the scandalous revelation about Kamala’s husband Doug Emhoff. It reported of Emhoff confessing to an “old” affair (he didn’t confess, he was exposed), for which he allegedly “paid the price” and quickly transitioned to how his ex-wife thinks Kamala is just great!

    What the NYT leaves out is that Emhoff impregnated a much younger elementary school teacher of one of his children and then the woman in question “did not keep the baby.” In other words, the mainstream press is desperately trying to “nothing to see here” the fact that their proposed First Gentleman cheated on his first wife with his young child’s teacher, got her pregnant, and then the baby was aborted. Classy, huh?

    Replies: @epebble, @Redneck Farmer, @AceDeuce, @Anonymous, @anonymous, @SFG, @CalCooledge, @Guest29048, @Arclight, @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D

    Thanks.

    their proposed First Gentleman cheated on his first wife with his young child’s teacher, got her pregnant, and then the baby was aborted.

    There is a chance that the woman gave birth to a girl named Brook, and that “did not keep the baby” means she subsequently gave Brook up for adoption.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13703933/Kamala-Harris-Doug-Emhoff-cheated-nanny-Najen-Nayler.html

    • Thanks: Twinkie
  • @anonymous
    @Twinkie


    Democrats act like Biden’s dementia was some big new discovery (“We’ve been lied to!”), but he was already manifesting it prior to the 2020 election, which culminated with him introducing his granddaughter as his deceased son and then “correcting” the mistake by confusing her with her cousin.
     
    Biden's granddaughter Natalie was featured prominently on Hunter Biden's laptop with highly inappropriate bikini photos, as well as other scarily suggestive photos she was sending him when he was still running around loose. Also on the laptop were emails of Hunter complaining about his dead brother's wife not allowing Natalie (she was about 10 at the time) to visit him for a weekend alone, even though it was on recommendation by her therapist. A professional therapist advised Natalie's mother that allowing Natalie to be alone with Hunter under any circumstances would be an extremely bad idea.

    It’s amazing that no news organization has delved into this, as well as Biden harassing his own daughter to allow him to take showers with her when she was 12 years old. It got so bad, she had to take showers at 1:00 am to ensure he was already asleep, so wouldn’t jump into the shower with her.

    Any reporter can find the pictures on Hunter's laptop. Any reporter can read Biden's daughter’s diary. And probably most have, yet… radio silence.

    Professional journalists aside, where are the podcasting feminists? Where’s all the "me too" ladies and gentlemen? Where is their outrage?

    Is their desperation to keep Trump out of office so much so that they think the Biden girls should just "take one for the team"? That seems rather black-hearted.

    It carries the patina of cultists protecting their leader at the expense of the children of the cult. A common cult maneuver.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Reg Cæsar, @Twinkie, @36 ulster

    Biden’s granddaughter Natalie was featured prominently on Hunter Biden’s laptop with highly inappropriate bikini photos, as well as other scarily suggestive photos she was sending him when he was still running around loose. Also on the laptop were emails of Hunter complaining about his dead brother’s wife not allowing Natalie (she was about 10 at the time) to visit him for a weekend alone, even though it was on recommendation by her therapist. A professional therapist advised Natalie’s mother that allowing Natalie to be alone with Hunter under any circumstances would be an extremely bad idea.

    It’s amazing that no news organization has delved into this, as well as Biden harassing his own daughter to allow him to take showers with her when she was 12 years old. It got so bad, she had to take showers at 1:00 am to ensure he was already asleep, so wouldn’t jump into the shower with her.

    Any reporter can find the pictures on Hunter’s laptop. Any reporter can read Biden’s daughter’s diary. And probably most have, yet… radio silence.

    Now imagine that Trump or Trump Jr. was like this. And imagine the media firestorm.

  • @epebble
    @Twinkie

    Classy, huh?

    What is the relevance to Election 2024? If one of Trump's ex-lovers had three abortions from three different men before she had a tryst with Trump, is that a character flaw of Trump? Should everyone in a person's transitive closure be sinless for him/her to be of good character?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Twinkie

    What is the relevance to Election 2024?

    That the “First Gentleman” the MSM and the Establishment are pushing is a sleazy dirtbag who does not take responsibility for the bastard child he fathered. And that’s the man that their president-to-be chose to marry.

    And if your retort is that Trump’s life is full of sleazy episodes, well, then, at the least, the left’s claim to moral superiority doesn’t exactly hold up, does it?

    And considering all sorts of withering MSM attacks on Vance as “weird,” digging up his private texts and whatnot, this lack of coverage of the dirt on the left exposes yet more hypocrisy of the MSM.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Twinkie

    left’s claim to moral superiority

    Actually, in the 20th century, it was the Republicans and conservatives who prided themselves as a party of values. You may remember Clinton was excoriated and impeached for the Monica Lewinsky affair. Democrats have generally been a party of, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" . Their strategy is one of repenting and asking for forgiveness when caught.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  • Kamala is doing exactly what Biden did for the 2020 campaign – what someone called a basement campaign.

    Both are prone to awkward gaffes and have no upside to doing interviews. But that’s okay, that just means the GOP can keep running old footage like the “Have you been to the border?” bit or the “Be woke” bit.

    Democrats act like Biden’s dementia was some big new discovery (“We’ve been lied to!”), but he was already manifesting it prior to the 2020 election, which culminated with him introducing his granddaughter as his deceased son and then “correcting” the mistake by confusing her with her cousin.

    No, it was there already and the press just “nothing to do see here” the whole thing.

    As others have pointed out, the press is now on full-court press to throw the election to Kamala. Witness the New York Times’ brief coverage of the scandalous revelation about Kamala’s husband Doug Emhoff. It reported of Emhoff confessing to an “old” affair (he didn’t confess, he was exposed), for which he allegedly “paid the price” and quickly transitioned to how his ex-wife thinks Kamala is just great!

    What the NYT leaves out is that Emhoff impregnated a much younger elementary school teacher of one of his children and then the woman in question “did not keep the baby.” In other words, the mainstream press is desperately trying to “nothing to see here” the fact that their proposed First Gentleman cheated on his first wife with his young child’s teacher, got her pregnant, and then the baby was aborted. Classy, huh?

    • Agree: mc23
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Twinkie

    Classy, huh?

    What is the relevance to Election 2024? If one of Trump's ex-lovers had three abortions from three different men before she had a tryst with Trump, is that a character flaw of Trump? Should everyone in a person's transitive closure be sinless for him/her to be of good character?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Twinkie

    , @Redneck Farmer
    @Twinkie

    Emhoff vs. Trump is probably the election we deserve.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Twinkie

    Based on the vibes I got watching the VP announcement rally, I think that "Jack Emhoff" and "Sugar Walz" would make a darling couple. Maybe Hunter Biden could stay at the White House to provide stud service to the two jilted gals.

    , @Anonymous
    @Twinkie


    their proposed First Gentleman cheated on his first wife with his young child’s teacher, got her pregnant, and then the baby was aborted.
     
    Maybe she gave the baby up for adoption. That is usually what “did not keep the baby” means.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Roderick Spode

    , @anonymous
    @Twinkie


    Democrats act like Biden’s dementia was some big new discovery (“We’ve been lied to!”), but he was already manifesting it prior to the 2020 election, which culminated with him introducing his granddaughter as his deceased son and then “correcting” the mistake by confusing her with her cousin.
     
    Biden's granddaughter Natalie was featured prominently on Hunter Biden's laptop with highly inappropriate bikini photos, as well as other scarily suggestive photos she was sending him when he was still running around loose. Also on the laptop were emails of Hunter complaining about his dead brother's wife not allowing Natalie (she was about 10 at the time) to visit him for a weekend alone, even though it was on recommendation by her therapist. A professional therapist advised Natalie's mother that allowing Natalie to be alone with Hunter under any circumstances would be an extremely bad idea.

    It’s amazing that no news organization has delved into this, as well as Biden harassing his own daughter to allow him to take showers with her when she was 12 years old. It got so bad, she had to take showers at 1:00 am to ensure he was already asleep, so wouldn’t jump into the shower with her.

    Any reporter can find the pictures on Hunter's laptop. Any reporter can read Biden's daughter’s diary. And probably most have, yet… radio silence.

    Professional journalists aside, where are the podcasting feminists? Where’s all the "me too" ladies and gentlemen? Where is their outrage?

    Is their desperation to keep Trump out of office so much so that they think the Biden girls should just "take one for the team"? That seems rather black-hearted.

    It carries the patina of cultists protecting their leader at the expense of the children of the cult. A common cult maneuver.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Reg Cæsar, @Twinkie, @36 ulster

    , @SFG
    @Twinkie

    If you’re a man, you can get away with a lot as a Democrat…until you’re no longer useful.

    Then, the knives come out.

    , @CalCooledge
    @Twinkie

    So the new First Couple will be a pair of abortion-loving adulterers, leadership that is perfectly emblematic for Hijacked New America.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Guest29048
    @Twinkie

    Thanks.


    their proposed First Gentleman cheated on his first wife with his young child’s teacher, got her pregnant, and then the baby was aborted.
     
    There is a chance that the woman gave birth to a girl named Brook, and that "did not keep the baby" means she subsequently gave Brook up for adoption.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13703933/Kamala-Harris-Doug-Emhoff-cheated-nanny-Najen-Nayler.html
    , @Arclight
    @Twinkie

    Exactly - the media got tough on Biden only after it was apparent that no amount of massaging or framing would be enough to rescue him, which is exactly what the Democratic brahmins wanted so they had cover to force him off the ticket. Now they are back to carrying water for the party, and the sudden appearance of stories about how dynamic and fun Kamala is (oddly, no actual voters felt that way when she got loads of exposure in 2020) are all over the place, and they will hammer how historic she would be and so on.

    It's important as a general rule to remember most people are sheep (applies to both sides) and that there are a *lot* of people who hate Trump and will take any excuse they can to vote against him, which is why Harris has benefitted from a significant swing in polling. This is where Trump's historic lack of discipline could really come back to bite him. Harris is beatable because enthusiasm will probably cool off a bit, events at home and abroad will happen that can be used to hold the de facto incumbent to account, there are no doubt plenty of personal and political opportunities to make hay, and fundamentally she doesn't engender personal loyalty from voters.

    The media will never, ever intentionally help out the right or Trump. The fundamental public anxieties about inflation/economy, competence, illegal immigration and crime remain - stick to those topics and eventually Harris will have to address these things through the media.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Twinkie

    If one believes in true love, you probably figure that Doug and Kamala just met cute, fell madly in love, and decided to get married in August 2014, when they were both 50.

    If you are a big cynic, you might notice that this was exactly when Kamala was gearing up for her 2016 Presidential run, and you might suspect that her Democrat groomers discovered that "single girl boss cat-lady" wasn't testing well.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peter Akuleyev, @Thomm, @Colin Wright, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I realize abortion is a scary word for Catholics but what reflection is it on Kamala if years before she met Emhoff , his mistress aborted a child vs. putting it up for adoption? Even putting aside that all this has nothing to do with Kamala, if the child was given up for adoption, does this make Emhoff somehow less sleazy and if the mother decided to abort he is more of a sleaze?

    To me the hilarious thing about these nanny-shtupping incidents (see also Arnold) is that the nanny in question is not usually some lithe gorgeous young thing that even a saint might be tempted to shtup like you might imagine. They are short and fat and quite plain. I do wonder whether these men actually pursued these women or whether it was vice versa and they just didn't have the character to say no when a freebie was offered. Of course, "free" is never free.

    Trump had to pay Playboy model Karen McDougal but at least he got his money's worth.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @SafeNow, @Twinkie

  • The Olympic 100 meter dash consists, for the top sprinters, of a first round of heats, a semifinal, and then an eight-man final. In the last eleven Olympics from 1984 through 2024, men with at least one sub-Saharan parent have earned 87 of the 88 spots in the finals. Su Bingtian of China broke the...
  • @Truth
    @Twinkie

    I see NO resemblance to anything regarding Teddy Riner to "affirmative action"... except of course the obvious.

    Now certainly, weight classes were created for a reason, but if Teddy Riner was a 6-8 slow slug, it would be of no benefit to him.

    Oleksander Usyk is 220 lbs. and he has defeated Derick Chisora, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury who are all 25-40 lbs. heaver than he is. And this is in a COMBAT sport.

    Why? Well, for a lot of reasons, but probably chiefly that he didn't spend all of his time bellyaching about size advantages.

    Teddy Riner is a transcendent athlete who is able to utilize his god given size to his advantage. That's why he's the most rewarded (and arguably the best) judoka ever.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I see NO resemblance to anything regarding Teddy Riner to “affirmative action”… except of course the obvious.

    The affirmative action mentality comment was directed at you, not Teddy Riner. Do you need me to explain further?

    Oleksander Usyk is 220 lbs. and he has defeated Derick Chisora, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury who are all 25-40 lbs. heaver than he is. And this is in a COMBAT sport.

    In boxing (and striking in general), speed matters a great deal (again, this is not to say that size does not matter – it obviously does, but speed advantage is crucial in striking where the weight differential is not great).

    Judo is a grappling sport where strength and size matter a great deal (perhaps even more so than wrestling, because Judo has much greater gripping component and is a higher body friction sport).

    Teddy Riner is a transcendent athlete who is able to utilize his god given size to his advantage. That’s why he’s the most rewarded (and arguably the best) judoka ever.

    He is not “transcendent” (whatever you think that means) and is not the best Judoka ever. You are only saying this, because he is black.

    He is one of the winningest Judoka ever, but he fights in the least competitive division in Judo (100+ kg), against opponents who are always smaller. From a technical stand point, he’s not even in the top 10 best. Not even close.

    • Replies: @Torna atrás, @Truth
    @Twinkie

    So your opinion is that Yahusiro Yamashita would have beaten Teddy Riner? He was 300 lbs.

    What about Hitoshi Saito? he was about 315 in his prime.

    They are considered, from what I understand, two of the best ever, and they are HEAVYHWEIGHTS.


    He died aged 54 from cholangiocarcinoma, a rare but rapidly progressing and incurable form of liver cancer.[5][6] After his death Saito was promoted by the Kodokan to 9th dan rank in judo and was also awarded the Order of the Rising Sun, Gold Rays with Rosette by the Japanese Emperor.[7]
     
    Saito was from many generations of Judo, and probably samurai heritage, and his son Tatsuru is an outstanding judoka now. He won an World Championships silver medal, and has of course trained since birth (Riner started as a pre-teen after playing soccer).

    The younger Saito, who is 6'2 300+ lbs., lost early in the competition this year, and has already lost to Riner multiple times.

    https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2024/08/3758fa9aaa6b-olympics-riner-saito-inch-closer-to-heavyweight-judo-gold-showdown.html

    So that's it, Old Sport, don't hate, congratulate. If a Korean ever wins a Taekwondo medal again, I will give him full credit.*

    (*Haha, yes I know you guys still OCCASIONALLY medal in your national sport, where a third of the population holds a black belt. I almost had to kick one 130 lb. guy's azz in Kyung Ju 25 years ago... but that's a subject for another post.)

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Truth
    @Twinkie


    . He benefits from being 6’8″ and 300+ lbs. Every single opponent he fights is smaller than he
     
    Utilizing skill and energy transfer against superior opponents is... kind of the whole point of judo, isn't it?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Utilizing skill and energy transfer against superior opponents is… kind of the whole point of judo, isn’t it?

    That’s a perfect affirmative action sentiment – everyone else should fight a bigger opponent (me) to prove his skills, but I get to fight only smaller opponents. And then if I win thusly, I am the greatest!

    Combat sports have weight classes and sex-segregated matches for good reasons.

    This is not to say that you cannot overcome size with skill, but in that scenario (often found in real life conflicts), the skill disparity has to be large, something that doesn’t happen much, if at all, in elite athletic contests.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Twinkie

    I see NO resemblance to anything regarding Teddy Riner to "affirmative action"... except of course the obvious.

    Now certainly, weight classes were created for a reason, but if Teddy Riner was a 6-8 slow slug, it would be of no benefit to him.

    Oleksander Usyk is 220 lbs. and he has defeated Derick Chisora, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury who are all 25-40 lbs. heaver than he is. And this is in a COMBAT sport.

    Why? Well, for a lot of reasons, but probably chiefly that he didn't spend all of his time bellyaching about size advantages.

    Teddy Riner is a transcendent athlete who is able to utilize his god given size to his advantage. That's why he's the most rewarded (and arguably the best) judoka ever.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    The French style of Judo is widely reviled for being “negative Judo.” It relies extensively on defensive gripping to forestall attacks and gamesmanship to induce shido (penalty) on the opponents.
     
    Is that as dull as it sounds? The Italians did this in soccer, calling it catenaccio (roughly "Katy, bar the door), and were roundly criticized for it.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Is that as dull as it sounds?

    Yes. While undoubtedly effective at winning matches, it is boring as heck to watch and it is completely counterproductive to fostering Judo as an effective martial art.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • @Jack D
    @Frau Katze


    I wonder if she straightens her hair?
     
    Really? You actually have doubts about this? OF COURSE she straightens her hair. People who are even partly African do not have naturally straight hair. The natural texture of black women's hair is that of a Brillo pad. All black women spend an extraordinary amount of time maintaining their hair so it does not look like a fright wig.

    https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/6009200379c45e7ec4d89732/1978-Kamala-Harris-vs--2021-Kamala-Harris/960x0.jpg

    If you are a white person with naturally straight hair you have NO IDEA how much time and effort black women spend on their hair. The 1st black millionaire in America sold hair care products for black people.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @jb, @Almost Missouri, @Twinkie, @Mike Conrad, @Red Pill Angel

    The natural texture of black women’s hair is that of a Brillo pad.

    Have you been going around and feeling the texture of black women’s hair?

    • LOL: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Twinkie


    'The natural texture of black women’s hair is that of a Brillo pad.'

    Have you been going around and feeling the texture of black women’s hair?
     
    That's who's been doing it.
    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Joe Biden told me about this and I trust him.

  • @Mark G.
    @Goddard

    "Let us pray Trump does a full-on Sailer Strategy this time."

    I agree. Pandering to Blacks with things like the Platinum Plan did not work for Trump in 2020. The following writer advocates the Sailer Strategy:

    https://www.highly-respected.com/p/the-sailer-strategy-reconsidered

    He suggest two additional ideas. The first is for the Republican party to adopt leaving the abortion issue to the states rather than advocating a national abortion ban. Trump has already gotten on board with this. Second, make the Republican party less clownish and more serious because that appeals to middle class Whites more. This author says a more serious conservatism would look more like J.D. Vance. Trump just picked him as a running mate, so he realizes this is a good idea too.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Reg Cæsar, @Twinkie

    I agree. Pandering to Blacks with things like the Platinum Plan did not work for Trump in 2020. The following writer advocates the Sailer Strategy:

    This is what is known as a false choice, because there is a range of political options between “pandering to blacks” and an explicitly white-ist political platform.

    Mr. Sailer is correct that if the Democratic Party turned into “the” black party, it would lose – all the time. But the corollary to that is that if the GOP turned into “the” white party, it would lose – because about 30-40% of whites would never support an explicitly racialist party and having 65% of the whites arrayed against all other voters is a losing proposition in the long run.

    The trick here is to turn the GOP into a populist-normie-ist party that stands against the likes of Wokism, sexual deviancy, affirmative action, etc. and pursues implicitly pro-white and majoritarian policies while picking up coalition partners/allies among Hispanics and Asian (and some blacks) especially among men who are repelled by all the abnormalities the left pushes.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    "This is what is known as a false choice, because there is a range of political options between "pandering to blacks" and an explicitly white-ist political platform."

    The Sailer Strategy does not advocate an explicitly white-ist political platform and neither does the Substack article I linked to which says that the Sailer Strategy is a good idea. The Substack article says a lot of Whites would not support a White racialist party and is therefore not a good idea for the Republican party to adopt.

    I recommend anyone seeing this go read the article I linked to previously.

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.

    The proper position of the federal government toward abortion would be to augment the Hyde Amendment, or better yet, domesticate the Helms Amendment: refuse to do anything that would subsidize or facilitate the "procedure". We cannot stop it, but it is ugly and evil and we will have nothing to do with it. This is anything but "extremist"; the Hyde Amendment has been the law since the Carter Administration, the Helms since the Nixon.


    the last midterm elections
     
    We do not have "midterm" elections in this country., with the exception of Senators vacating their seats via death or appointment before the fifth year of their term. This isn't nitpicking, but basic constitutional understanding at a grade-school (or immigration test!) level. The current promiscuous use of"midterm" is evidence of a grossly distorted view of the separation of powers.

    This would include most criminal matters, including whether or not abortion would be treated as a crime.

     

    In many states, including mine, rape is the only crime that is punishable by the death penalty. It just happens to be imposed on the wrong individual. "White suburbanites" should ponder this.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Jonathan Mason

    In many states, including mine, rape is the only crime that is punishable by the death penalty. It just happens to be imposed on the wrong individual. “White suburbanites” should ponder this.

    Remember the old joke about libertarians? You know, the secret sin theory of politics.

  • If you get it right, then you can cite it endlessly. If you get it wrong, only your most obsessive worst enemies will look it up.
  • @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    Assuming that Trump carries all the sunbelt “battleground” states (AZ, NV, NC, GA), he only has to win one of the three “blue wall” states – WI, MI, PA. WI will probably go Kamala’s way, so Trump has to win either MI or PA.
     
    Folks can check my math, but I do not think Trump needs Nevada. The 2020 census has moved the bar just a bit. (Lost 2--OH and WV, but gained 5--TX(2), FL, NC, MT, for a net of 3.)

    So I think if Trump takes--as he should--GA, NC and AZ then he is at 262 and he needs only one Midwestern state. Does not even matter which. Even Wisconsin(10) would do it. Not a big change but very slightly different from 2016 when he needed either PA or MI alone but WI alone would not get it done. (Of course he got all three by a very, very tiny margin.)

    And again, these are not highly "open border affected" states--though that's certainly trashing jobs, wages, housing, budgets all over. Trump really needs to hammer home that this is the--intentional--destruction of "affordable family formation", the "American Dream" right now for our kids, and forever ... for "our posterity".

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Folks can check my math, but I do not think Trump needs Nevada.

    That’s rather beside the point. If he carries the rest of the sunbelt battleground states (AZ, NC, GA), he will likely carry NV as well. The current polling certainly indicates so. The only one of the four getting “close” again is GA.

    Again, if Trump wins ONE of the three blue wall states – MI, WI, and PA, he will likely win. WI is the toughest of the three for Trump, so either MI or PA will do. Now that Josh Shapiro is NOT the VP candidate and Biden is not on the ballot, PA should be more gettable.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Twinkie

    "...WI is the toughest of the three for Trump ..."

    Why do you think so? He came closer in 2020 in Wisconsin than in Michigan or Pennsylvania.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Colin Wright
    @Twinkie


    '...Now that Josh Shapiro is NOT the VP candidate and Biden is not on the ballot, PA should be more gettable...'
     
    Pennsylvania is pretty damned crooked. When Trump pulled ahead there in 2016 I wasn't counting it as a win until the count was final. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised when there wasn't a '2020' there. I guess the Democrats just weren't prepared.

    I'd look to lock down my win elsewhere. My guess is that you can't count on Pennsylvania no matter how many votes you get -- and the Democrats aren't going to get surprised this time.
    , @AP
    @Twinkie

    Vance and Eastern Europeans don't get along - he really hurts the ticket in PA - home to 104,000 Ukrainians and a similar number of Lithuanians, most of whom are traditional Republican voters, many (if not most) of whom will not vote for the Republican ticket for the first time in their lives.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Twinkie

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • @OilcanFloyd

    Americans tend to like black Americans and want to do nice things for them....

     

    I don't think that's true at all. Most Americans don't hate black Americans, but doing nice things for them and fawning over them is largely forced, because everyone knows that it's expected from above, and nobody really knows what to do with blacks. Nobody likes affirmative action and gimmes for blacks when they are on the receiving end or view themselves as paying for it. I also doubt that black culture and entertainment would make much of an impact outside of the black community without being forced on others. Seriously, Americans have to be either seriously dumbed-down to the point of no return, or just playing along to accept a moron like Calvin Broadus, and many others, as even remotely entertaining or endearing.

    If whites and other non-black Americans were as fond of blacks as right-thinking media boomers claim, then Americans would be much less self-segregating than they are. Almost nobody wants to live among blacks, and that largely has nothing to do with hating blacks.

    I haven't really looked at Taki's site in over a decade. What happened? It might as well be NR or The Atlantic. Is his daughter running things now?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Mr. Sailer wrote:

    Americans tend to like black Americans and want to do nice things for them….

    In response, you wrote:

    I don’t think that’s true at all. Most Americans don’t hate black Americans, but doing nice things for them and fawning over them is largely forced, because everyone knows that it’s expected from above, and nobody really knows what to do with blacks. Nobody likes affirmative action and gimmes for blacks when they are on the receiving end or view themselves as paying for it.

    I do think that many white Americans – especially on the left – want to do nice things for blacks, but “tend to like black Americans” is completely wrong and is contradicted by real life, revealed preferences such as intermarriage and housing patterns. Nice educated white liberals might want a nice educated black liberal as a token, emblematic friend, but he/she certainly stays the heck away from most blacks.

    Mr. Sailer misses some trends in this article, because of his own particular priors. For example, he writes:

    In his vague way, Trump appears to sense that one issue that might unite the white, black, and red historic nations of America is opposition to ceding rule of the United States to an Obama-Kamala-style global elite ruling class…

    This is more of Mr. Sailer’s wishful thinking than is reflective of reality. All statistical indicators are that, far from a nativist white, black, and red alliance, the broad political trends seem to indicate a white-Hispanic working class political coalition emerging versus the high-low coalition of elites (largely white/Jewish/South Asian) and blacks.

    Mr. Sailer also seems to miss the sexual dimension to the above political coalitions. Increasingly, males of all races – even blacks – especially those of the working class segment are trending toward a coalition with working class white males. Recently, commenter Elmer T. Jones wrote a very insightful and humorous comment, in which he described Kamala Harris as “the Stock Photo DEI Candidate.” He went on to write, “You’ve seen her on every corporate web page under the “Careers” tab. She’s leading teams, giving presentations, programming space vehicles.” (https://www.unz.com/isteve/governor-of-isteve-content-generator-mississippi-gets-veep-nod/#comment-6699067)

    There is a reason why the stock photo DEI is almost always a black woman. It’s because “women of color” are often the biggest beneficiaries of DEI employment. Black women tend to have higher educational attainment rate than black men and, being women, are more ideally suited to nebulous, talky fields such as “human resources” and the like that contain a large fraction of DEI hires. There is even some statistical evidence that affirmative action benefits black (and even more Hispanic) women at the expense of black men: https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2024/08/the-long-run-impacts-of-banning-affirmative-action-in-us-higher-education.html

    Results suggest that banning affirmative action results in a decline in URM women’s college degree completion, earnings, and employment relative to non-Hispanic White women, driven largely by impacts on Hispanic women. Thus, affirmative action bans resulted in an increase in racial/ethnic disparities in both college degree completion and earnings among women. Effects on URM men are more ambiguous and indicate significant heterogeneity across states, with some estimates pointing to a possible positive impact on labor market outcomes of Black men.

    Mr. Sailer is correct, of course, to point out that black elites are more admixed than the black masses. But this is not unusual. I’d posit – based on housing, educational, income, and intermarriage data – that white elites are also more admixed (probably with Asians) than the majority of ordinary whites. Indeed, this is true of all race/ethnicities in the U.S. (in other words, upscale Asians are more admixed than ordinary Asians and upscale Hispanics are likewise). See the median income data by marriage types below:

    And this has been the case for millennia globally. During the heydays of the Roman Empire, for example, the genetics of the city of Rome was shifted toward the Levant, likely suggesting that the long distance trade encouraged migration of merchants, ambitious aspirants and the like from the Levant to the imperial capital that led to admixtures, which later disappeared as the empire and long distance trade collapsed (the city’s population was replenished still later from the countryside).

    You can see the same phenomenon at work with, say, JD Vance, who – once he rose to the hallowed halls of power, aka Yale Law School, from Appalachia, romanced and married Usha Chilukuri, a daughter of South Asian immigrants and forming a “power couple.”

    • Thanks: kaganovitch, bomag, ic1000
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    “HR Lady Harris” has a nice ring to it.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Twinkie


    This is more of Mr. Sailer’s wishful thinking than is reflective of reality. All statistical indicators are that, far from a nativist white, black, and red alliance, the broad political trends seem to indicate a white-Hispanic working class political coalition emerging versus the high-low coalition of elites (largely white/Jewish/South Asian) and blacks.
     
    Strange.

    I agree that there is a white-Hispanic working class coalition, but I don't see any high-low coalition of white.... & blacks. Except if you refer to black thugs as some kind od elites' informal "army".

    Racially, American elites are mostly white/Jews/Asian mix.

    Except that many whites have lost racial consciousness- Zuckerberg's wife is, I think, Korean; one Gates' daughter is married to Egyptian Muslim, while another is screwing some negro "fiance". Nikki Haley's daughter...

    Unthinkable for Churchill, FDR, even Kennedy & Nixon.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    “HR Lady Harris” has a nice ring to it…

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Twinkie


    I do think that many white Americans – especially on the left – want to do nice things for blacks...
     
    Yes, but it's often completely self serving virtue signaling, which goes along with my point. Lots of those people are effectively brainwashed victims of mass hysteria. Others are just stupid.

    All statistical indicators are that, far from a nativist white, black, and red alliance, the broad political trends seem to indicate a white-Hispanic working class political coalition emerging versus the high-low coalition of elites (largely white/Jewish/South Asian) and blacks.

     

    That may be true in a political sense, but it doesn't make a difference, since nobody is going to represent the interests of the middle against the elites. The Republicans and Democrats surely aren't going to represent anyone but the elites, while throwing bones at their pets.

    Beyond that, I don't see proof of a white and hispanic coalition of the working class. From my experience, hispanics stick together, and the elites reward them with jobs and preferences for doing so. HR ladies love favoring browns over whites. They get points for that, and it makes them feel good. I don't see how hispanics would benefit from a coalition with whites, when our whole society is centered around replacing the white middle and working classes with hispanics. Why ruin a good thing by making an alliance with the people that you have been chosen to replace?Demographic numbers are the only statistics that I trust on this issue. Personal experience in blue collar jobs also tells me otherwise.

    Mr. Sailer is correct, of course, to point out that black elites are more admixed than the black masses....
     
    That's obvious, but nobody really challenges that.

    And this has been the case for millennia globally. During the heydays of the Roman...
     
    At the empire stage, that's true, but that often signals destruction rather than building. Building up to an empire and running an empire are usually two very different things. The modern West is probably more akin to Egypt being overrun by Nubians, than the decay of the Roman Empire. I wouldn't even call the the U.S. a nation anymore, since the elites are completely divorced from the traditional elites, and are in the process of replacing the founding and frontier stock with foreigners of totally different ethnic and racial backgrounds, which is backed up by demographic and employment statistics. I don't expect to see the beneficiaries buck those trends to revive a nation that they don't relate to, if they don't outright hate it, or to ally with the people that they have been chosen to replace.
  • If you get it right, then you can cite it endlessly. If you get it wrong, only your most obsessive worst enemies will look it up.
  • @houston 1992
    @Twinkie

    does Shapiro as VP guarantee PA? And does Shapiro , ex IDF , op ed denigration of Palestinians , guarantee MI for Trump ?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    PA matters a lot to Kamala and Shapiro can help her there. But he will be unhelpful for MI, which she also needs.

    Kamala has to sweep WI, MI, and PA to win (I’m assuming Trump wins AZ, NV, NC, GA).

  • @Anonymous
    @Twinkie


    However, with Shapiro on the ticket, she has an even shot of getting PA.

    Assuming that Trump carries all the sunbelt “battleground” states (AZ, NV, NC, GA), he only has to win one of the three “blue wall” states – WI, MI, PA. WI will probably go Kamala’s way, so Trump has to win either MI or PA.

    If Kamala picks Shapiro and wins PA, Trump has to win MI.
     
    That makes it sound like Trump has to pull off a miracle to win, whether Shapiro is on the ticket or not.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    That makes it sound like Trump has to pull off a miracle to win, whether Shapiro is on the ticket or not.

    He’ll likely carry the sunbelt battleground states, so he only has to win one of the three blue wall states of WI, MI, and PA. Wouldn’t take a miracle.

    With Biden out of the way, PA is in some ways easier unless Kamala picks Shapiro. But if she picks Shapiro, she might alienate the Muslim voters and MI and make the latter easier for Trump (who is leading there by a small margin already).

    The big question is, how long with Kamala’s press-pushed honeymoon last? It will likely sustain through the convention, but will it decline afterwards?

  • The Olympic 100 meter dash consists, for the top sprinters, of a first round of heats, a semifinal, and then an eight-man final. In the last eleven Olympics from 1984 through 2024, men with at least one sub-Saharan parent have earned 87 of the 88 spots in the finals. Su Bingtian of China broke the...
  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie

    One thing the Olympics has always gotten right is in refusing to recognize any official medal count. From its Charter:


    The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries...


    The IOC and the OCOG shall not draw up any global ranking per country.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_medal_table#Background

     

    It's murky, anyway. Like with the Electoral College, it's chaotic, but the chaos is a feature, not a bug.

    By one measure, Team USA was in the lead Wednesday afternoon. By another, it was seventh.


    What country has the most Olympic medals per capita? Hint: It's not the US

    The top country has a per capita figure over 6,000 times that of the lowest-- which shouldn't be hard to guess. If you're stuck, ask Apu.

    Replies: @epebble, @Twinkie

    The general global consensus is gold medals then if tied silver medals and then if tied bronze medals.

    Australia, by the way, is a huge beneficiary of there being many medals available for swimming.

  • @Anon
    @Twinkie


    So, whites are the most numerous (makes sense given the population distribution), blacks and Asians punch above their weight. And, as usual, Hispanics punch way below their weight in athletics.
     
    You left out subcon Indians.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You left out subcon Indians.

    They do terribly in many (most?) sports. Indians tend to have “skinny fat” bodies and exceedingly high rates of heart problems. Part of it is environmental, lifestyle and dietary, but there is a genetic component as well.

    None of that is good for athletics.

    • Replies: @Torna atrás
    @Twinkie

    Just checked the medal table and saw India didn’t win a gold medal. I guess their favourite sport of ‘boasting’ isn’t an Olympic sport. 1.4 billion people, top 5 economy and can’t win one single gold medal. It’s just embarrassing.

    Replies: @epebble

  • If you get it right, then you can cite it endlessly. If you get it wrong, only your most obsessive worst enemies will look it up.
  • @Hypnotoad666
    A better guessing game would be "Who's running the country?"

    The Democrats coup'd our resident vegetable because the country learned he was far too mentally incompetent to be President and would therefore not make a strong candidate in the election. So, problem solved!

    But wait . . . everyone has forgoten that the vegetable is still President. And there are a few things going on in case anyone has watched the news lately. So who is deciding how to handle, say, the two ongoing hot wars or the border, or the trade war with China, or U.S. energy policy, or the upcoming recession?

    Obviously they have never let Kamala anywhere near the adults' table, so she's got nothing to do with it.

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1820542708467048523?s=19

    Replies: @Anonymous, @J.Ross, @Twinkie, @Anon, @MEH 0910

    That’s a fantastic video with non-stop woke-pushing with that weird, uncomfortable laughter.

    Run that non-stop, end the commercial with Trump with his fist up shouting “fight, fight, fight,” with blood on his face.

    • Agree: bomag, J.Ross, AnotherDad
  • @AnotherDad
    The Jewish guy.

    I would have thought it would be Kelly, standard issue white guy, military fighter pilot, much better on the border than pretty much any other Democrat. (Not a high bar.) Anything to distance herself from the "Biden Administration"'s--i.e. Mayorkas, Klane, Zeints, Garland, Blinken and the other Jews who've run the joint the last four years--treasonous, anti-national, genocidal border policy. (And Kelly would not be a threat to anyone else in the party looking at 2028 or 2032 if Harris wins.)

    But one thing notable about the Democrats the past 15 or so years is just how "out" they've become in the last 15 years in being openly anti-white, anti-national and just generally minoritarian crazy (trannies, BLM, CRT, etc.).

    Shapiro would be an attack dog for Kamala, pushing hard along the whole "threat to 'Our Democracy'" line beloved by the Jewish guys with $$$ who funded the Parasite Party.

    Replies: @Goddard, @anon, @Renard, @Twinkie, @Pat Kittle

    Even with Kelly, AZ is probably out of reach for Kamala.

    However, with Shapiro on the ticket, she has an even shot of getting PA.

    Assuming that Trump carries all the sunbelt “battleground” states (AZ, NV, NC, GA), he only has to win one of the three “blue wall” states – WI, MI, PA. WI will probably go Kamala’s way, so Trump has to win either MI or PA.

    If Kamala picks Shapiro and wins PA, Trump has to win MI.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Twinkie


    However, with Shapiro on the ticket, she has an even shot of getting PA.

    Assuming that Trump carries all the sunbelt “battleground” states (AZ, NV, NC, GA), he only has to win one of the three “blue wall” states – WI, MI, PA. WI will probably go Kamala’s way, so Trump has to win either MI or PA.

    If Kamala picks Shapiro and wins PA, Trump has to win MI.
     
    That makes it sound like Trump has to pull off a miracle to win, whether Shapiro is on the ticket or not.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @houston 1992
    @Twinkie

    does Shapiro as VP guarantee PA? And does Shapiro , ex IDF , op ed denigration of Palestinians , guarantee MI for Trump ?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    Assuming that Trump carries all the sunbelt “battleground” states (AZ, NV, NC, GA), he only has to win one of the three “blue wall” states – WI, MI, PA. WI will probably go Kamala’s way, so Trump has to win either MI or PA.
     
    Folks can check my math, but I do not think Trump needs Nevada. The 2020 census has moved the bar just a bit. (Lost 2--OH and WV, but gained 5--TX(2), FL, NC, MT, for a net of 3.)

    So I think if Trump takes--as he should--GA, NC and AZ then he is at 262 and he needs only one Midwestern state. Does not even matter which. Even Wisconsin(10) would do it. Not a big change but very slightly different from 2016 when he needed either PA or MI alone but WI alone would not get it done. (Of course he got all three by a very, very tiny margin.)

    And again, these are not highly "open border affected" states--though that's certainly trashing jobs, wages, housing, budgets all over. Trump really needs to hammer home that this is the--intentional--destruction of "affordable family formation", the "American Dream" right now for our kids, and forever ... for "our posterity".

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @EdwardM
    @Twinkie

    You are very optimistic about Trump's chances to overcome the margin of theft in those states.

    I am a bit surprised that all of the semifinalists, at least bandied about in the media (Shapiro, Walz, Kelly, Cooper) are white men. If one Woman of Color on the ticket is great, isn't two Women of Color on the ticket even greater? Maybe she'll throw a curve ball and pick one. Tulsi Gabbard would be a savvy choice, though there's no way she'd pick her and I assume Gabbard wouldn't accept anyway. Maybe Buttigieg as the next best thing. Or how about that appointed Senatress from CA who isn't running for a full term?

  • The Olympic 100 meter dash consists, for the top sprinters, of a first round of heats, a semifinal, and then an eight-man final. In the last eleven Olympics from 1984 through 2024, men with at least one sub-Saharan parent have earned 87 of the 88 spots in the finals. Su Bingtian of China broke the...
  • @GW
    So far, the US has won 19 gold medals.

    Here are the racial backgrounds of those gold medalists, with team events getting credit for 1 gold medal and the racial backgrounds of those participants averaged as a proportion of 1. We are valuing each gold medal won for the USA equally here. Mixed-race athletes are included in proportion to their mix (i.e. their parents' races). This is in the four broad racial/ethnic categories that Americans would naturally see as different.

    White - 71.4%
    Black - 18.6%
    Hispanic - 1.1%
    Asian - 8.9%

    Blacks and black sports are notoriously overrepresented by coverage. We see that one gymnast non-stop but little is noted about America's men's four rowing team (all-white) or its elite skeet shooter (a 35- year-old white Christian with a wife and two kids living in Fort Worth) who took home golds. With track and field heating up and both basketball teams still to finish, there are some more sports which can help the black contingent close the gap, but by-and-large the United States Olympic team has been carried by whites.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Twinkie

    White – 71.4%
    Black – 18.6%
    Hispanic – 1.1%
    Asian – 8.9%

    So, whites are the most numerous (makes sense given the population distribution), blacks and Asians punch above their weight. And, as usual, Hispanics punch way below their weight in athletics.

    As of 08/05/2024, the international medal count ranking is:

    1. US
    2. China
    3. France
    4. Australia
    5. Great Britain
    6. South Korea
    7. Japan
    8. Italy
    9. Netherlands
    10. Germany

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Twinkie


    So, whites are the most numerous (makes sense given the population distribution), blacks and Asians punch above their weight. And, as usual, Hispanics punch way below their weight in athletics.
     
    You left out subcon Indians.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie

    One thing the Olympics has always gotten right is in refusing to recognize any official medal count. From its Charter:


    The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries...


    The IOC and the OCOG shall not draw up any global ranking per country.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_medal_table#Background

     

    It's murky, anyway. Like with the Electoral College, it's chaotic, but the chaos is a feature, not a bug.

    By one measure, Team USA was in the lead Wednesday afternoon. By another, it was seventh.


    What country has the most Olympic medals per capita? Hint: It's not the US

    The top country has a per capita figure over 6,000 times that of the lowest-- which shouldn't be hard to guess. If you're stuck, ask Apu.

    Replies: @epebble, @Twinkie

    , @Prester John
    @Twinkie

    "...as usual, Hispanics punch way below their weight in athletics."

    Except in "béisbol."

  • @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie, this gentleman reached out to me today, he asked me to remind you who the greatest Judoka of all time was, and said that "you should send your sons to Paris for a rather costly, yet valuable, seminar..."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/teddy-riner-stars-again-as-france-defends-its-olympic-title-in-mixed-team-judo-beating-japan-final/ar-AA1obshy?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Replies: @Thomm, @Twinkie

    the greatest Judoka of all time

    Teddy Riner might be one of the winningest Judoka of all time, but he is not the greatest. He benefits from being 6’8″ and 300+ lbs. Every single opponent he fights is smaller than he (he fights 100 kg+ division which has no weight limit).

    The best Judoka of recent years has been Shohei Ono, who fought in the most competitive division in men’s judo – U73 kg. This is an opinion shared by many, likely most, high level Judoka, including Jimmy Pedro and Travis Stevens (the former is a two-time Olympic bronze medalist and world champion as well as coach to Kayla Harrison, Ronda Rousey, Marti Malloy, and Travis Stevens, all Olympic medalists).

    you should send your sons to Paris for a rather costly, yet valuable, seminar…

    The French style of Judo is widely reviled for being “negative Judo.” It relies extensively on defensive gripping to forestall attacks and gamesmanship to induce shido (penalty) on the opponents. The French are not known for being the best throwers. The Japanese are without peer in throws like Uchi Mata and Sode Tsurikomi Goshi. The Koreans are the best at Seoi Nage and Tai Otoshi. The Georgians and the Mongolians excel in “body Judo” (big pickups and suplex-type throws).

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Twinkie


    . He benefits from being 6’8″ and 300+ lbs. Every single opponent he fights is smaller than he
     
    Utilizing skill and energy transfer against superior opponents is... kind of the whole point of judo, isn't it?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Twinkie


    The French style of Judo is widely reviled for being “negative Judo.” It relies extensively on defensive gripping to forestall attacks and gamesmanship to induce shido (penalty) on the opponents.
     
    Is that as dull as it sounds? The Italians did this in soccer, calling it catenaccio (roughly "Katy, bar the door), and were roundly criticized for it.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Chrisnonymous
    I'm always amazed that, when I go to the gym in Japan, the muscular guys who are 20-30 years younger than me can't lift as much as I. What are the chances Su Bingtian had performance enhancers?

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Thomas Huxley, @ScarletNumber, @Twinkie, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @International Jew, @sb, @Torna atrás, @Brutusale

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_weightlifting

    Ever since the Olympics tightened the drug testing regime*, the Chinese dominate weight lifting at the lighter and middle weight categories. The heavier weight categories are won by the likes of Iranians, Central Asians, and those from the Caucasus. That’s among men. Among women, the East Asians dominate all weight categories.

    *When the drug testing was weaker, the Soviets and their allied countries were dominant.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Twinkie

    Quite true, but unlike what I assume is casual lifting in op's anecdote, weightlifting success depends greatly on skill (drilled from childhood) and anatomy (short femurs a big plus) as well as peak contractile force. Not to say that they aren't all incomprehensibly strong as well (also helped by starting young.)

    , @Liza
    @Twinkie

    Can't wait to see if Lasha T. can win again. (He's the ultra-large fellow who crosses himself half a dozen times before he actually lifts.) He's not a shoo-in anymore.

    , @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie, this gentleman reached out to me today, he asked me to remind you who the greatest Judoka of all time was, and said that "you should send your sons to Paris for a rather costly, yet valuable, seminar..."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/teddy-riner-stars-again-as-france-defends-its-olympic-title-in-mixed-team-judo-beating-japan-final/ar-AA1obshy?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Replies: @Thomm, @Twinkie

  • Not surprisingly, the Biden loyalists selected to be Biden's convention delegates appear to be doing as Biden directed and stampeding toward Kamala. So, who should she pick as her VP running mate?
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    "Now do J.D. Vance and Ron Unz."

    Okay.

    RON UNZ: Did something useful with his life.

    JD VANCE: Didn't.


    Now Ron isn't in line to possibly be President, so he doesn't deserve a microscope.

    Vance didn't really, so far as I can tell, aggressively court his present destiny; he wanted a public presence to be sure, just maybe not this one; but yet here he is, so like it or not, he now has to undergo a kind of scrutiny which Ron, bless his pointed little head, can honorably decline to deal with.

    THE GOOD, CHARITABLE VERSION OF VANCE:

    He had a tough time in life, he got dealt some nasty cards. But he found a clever way to deal with them, he played his hand well, and got some good things out of it.

    The good thing you might say about him is, he recognizes the reality of people who have lived in his situation, and he wants to speak for them and make sure they get a proper seat at the table. In which case, good on him.

    Better version of Vance: the always-brilliant Jennifer Lawrence, in "Winter's Bone". And if you really want to cop to it, the Mocking-Jay in The Hunger Games.

    THE BAD, CYNICAL VERSION OF VANCE:

    He's been sitting there all along, craftily playing his aw-shucks cards like some weird vampire card-shark. And now it's his time to pounce!

    Frankly I don't believe that. I had a CV somewhat similar to this guy, except without the virtuous national-politics part, and I just don't believe he is quite so evil. I think he just saw which cards were dealt on the table, then played them pretty well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTXq_2BRz6c

    "When I was just seventeen,
    Sex no longer held a mystery.
    I saw it as a commodity,
    To be bought and sold,
    Like rock and roll.
    Day by day I sank deeper,
    Into a world of cheap sensation.
    This held a great attraction for me,
    And I dreamt of my own club."

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Twinkie

    I was talking about Vance and Unz knowing each other.

  • @Thomm
    Caption contest :

    I invite everyone to submit captions to the photo below :


    https://timesofsandiego.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Greenpeace-Kamala-Harris13.jpg

    I have four entries of my own.

    i) “One of the rapid first-round eliminations during Kamala Harris’ Jewish husband selection tournament in 2012, titled “Who Wants to be First Gentleman?””

    ii) “No, Ron, I don’t want to go to your Palo Alto pad with you to see your ‘Very Important Software Work’!”

    iii) “Keep up the good work, Ron. You got a generous cut of the profits from the scheduled pandemic. Now, we will need you for the next staged situation we are brewing.”

    iv) “Strange things happen when the woman’s grip strength is stronger than the man’s.”

    Post your own captions below.

    Bonus video :

    Hulk Hogan (who recently spoke at the RNC to a standing ovation) wants to feast on Kamala :

    https://youtu.be/BQnFsVjdjs8

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Canute, @Truth, @Twinkie

    Now do J.D. Vance and Ron Unz.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    "Now do J.D. Vance and Ron Unz."

    Okay.

    RON UNZ: Did something useful with his life.

    JD VANCE: Didn't.


    Now Ron isn't in line to possibly be President, so he doesn't deserve a microscope.

    Vance didn't really, so far as I can tell, aggressively court his present destiny; he wanted a public presence to be sure, just maybe not this one; but yet here he is, so like it or not, he now has to undergo a kind of scrutiny which Ron, bless his pointed little head, can honorably decline to deal with.

    THE GOOD, CHARITABLE VERSION OF VANCE:

    He had a tough time in life, he got dealt some nasty cards. But he found a clever way to deal with them, he played his hand well, and got some good things out of it.

    The good thing you might say about him is, he recognizes the reality of people who have lived in his situation, and he wants to speak for them and make sure they get a proper seat at the table. In which case, good on him.

    Better version of Vance: the always-brilliant Jennifer Lawrence, in "Winter's Bone". And if you really want to cop to it, the Mocking-Jay in The Hunger Games.

    THE BAD, CYNICAL VERSION OF VANCE:

    He's been sitting there all along, craftily playing his aw-shucks cards like some weird vampire card-shark. And now it's his time to pounce!

    Frankly I don't believe that. I had a CV somewhat similar to this guy, except without the virtuous national-politics part, and I just don't believe he is quite so evil. I think he just saw which cards were dealt on the table, then played them pretty well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTXq_2BRz6c

    "When I was just seventeen,
    Sex no longer held a mystery.
    I saw it as a commodity,
    To be bought and sold,
    Like rock and roll.
    Day by day I sank deeper,
    Into a world of cheap sensation.
    This held a great attraction for me,
    And I dreamt of my own club."

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Twinkie

  • Donald Trump appears to have been shot near the right ear at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. He fairly quickly regained his feet, pumped his fist a few times to his supporters, and was helped to walk off by the Secret Service, with blood visible on the right side of his head. He was taken...
  • @John Johnson
    @Old Virginia

    I’m not an instructor or anything but have read from Jack O’Connor, Townsend Whelen, etc. and have spent hours out back with M1 Garands and 1903’s blowing holes in paper. I can attest to how adrenaline and nerves effect preparation and taking the shot from time in the deer stand. It’s something like descriptions of battle – days and hours of boredom punctuated by a moment of terror – but having to calm yourself for the shot.

    Yea but have you shot a modern AR-15?

    You don't have to focus like you do with a 30 caliber.

    I could make a 130 yard balloon shot from prone on a bad day. I don't use breathing techniques at all. I could easily do it while talking on speaker phone.

    Once you get the feel of an AR-15 you don't even need to shoulder it like a 30 cal rifle. That is why you will see military or law enforcement shouldering just the edge of the buttstock. I once thought it was bad form until I actually shot one. You can let it ride high on your shoulder and for some it is more comfortable that way. Kind of like this:
    https://assets.cat5.com/images/tactical-experts/the-tactical-rifle-in-law-enforcement/the-semi-automatic-223-rifle.jpg

    I would even say that a high powered pellet gun requires more concentration.

    Trump is extremely lucky and so are the other people in the crowd. The AR-15/M16 is an ideal weapon for infantry because they can have fried nerves and still get some shots on the enemy. I could make a 130 yard shot using gangsta glock style. Maybe not on the first shot but within 5-7. You can watch videos on youtube of people shooting them one handed.

    Replies: @Old Virginia, @Anonymous, @Twinkie

    You don’t have to focus like you do with a 30 caliber.

    I could make a 130 yard balloon shot from prone on a bad day. I don’t use breathing techniques at all. I could easily do it while talking on speaker phone.

    Once you get the feel of an AR-15 you don’t even need to shoulder it like a 30 cal rifle. That is why you will see military or law enforcement shouldering just the edge of the buttstock. I once thought it was bad form until I actually shot one. You can let it ride high on your shoulder and for some it is more comfortable that way. Kind of like this:

    This is nonsense.

    I don’t know where you learned to shoot firearms, but shooting ANY and ALL firearms accurately and consistently requires a proper breathing technique. Not only does proper breathing maintain a consistent sight picture, it also allows you to press the trigger smoothly into and through “the wall.”

    It doesn’t matter whether the weapon in question is a 10/22 chambered in 22LR or a Remington 700 in .300 Win Mag (that the USSS employs). Incorrect breathing will result in sight alignment disturbance and improper trigger press.

    An AR-15 is not some magic weapon that negates the laws of physics and biomechanics. This is especially true when firing under stress (try running a few sprints and shooting immediately, even prone, kinda like biathlon, to see how much breathing matters) as well as when using a gritty milspec trigger.

    As for the picture you posted, that is most certainly not how an LEO is taught to hold a rifle for shooting. The officer in question is likely spotting, not aiming. I am old enough to have been taught to shoot initially in the “two triangles” target shooting stance:

    But have been “re-educated” to the more modern version that emphasizes wider view/situational awareness and lateral mobility (and taking advantage of body armor):

    As for your assertion that an AR-15 “outranges” an AK (I assume you mean AKM, not AK-74). This is entirely theoretical.

    An AR-15 firing a 55 grain bullet (M193 equivalent) has a theoretical maximum effective range of about 500-600 meters. But the terminal effectiveness beyond 150-200 meters is questionable and the bullet is subject to ambient conditions (e.g. wind) significantly at extended ranges. It also suffers greatly from inability to penetrate barrier, which deficiency magnifies as the range increases. The realistic operational effective range of an AR-15 is more like 200-300 meters.

    An AKM similarly has a theoretical maximum effective range of 400 meters or so. It uses a heavier, slower 123 grain bullet, so it suffers in comparison to greater bullet drop, but is superior in barrier penetration. In reality, the operational effective range is more like 200 meters.

    Neither is well-suited for anything beyond medium range. Both are essentially CQB weapons that take the place of carbines and submachine guns in the modern era. Where the AR-15 excels over the AKM are: light weight (gun AND ammo), ergonomics (the AKM is very front heavy), and the ability to mount optics* properly, and superior triggers and high quality (read consistent) ammo availability for the platform/cartridge.

    *The traditional AKM has a dustcover over the frame, which is an unsuitable place to mount an optic securely. Various solutions have been dreamed up – including by the Soviets with a side mount – but all are deficient and unsatisfactory in one way or another.

    • Agree: Yngvar
    • Replies: @Old Virginia
    @Twinkie

    "I don't know where you learned to shoot firearms, but shooting ANY and ALL firearms accurately and consistently requires a proper breathing technique. Not only does proper breathing maintain consistent sight picture, it also allows you to press the trigger smoothly into and through " 'the wall' ".

    I thank you for that. Your comment answers one in opposition to mine. I introduced the fundamentals of breathing in marksmanship into this thread but don't have the stomach for arguing. I originally supposed that the shooter's ability to take an accurate shot had been disrupted by the municipal cop at roof's edge. Apparently the confrontation may never have happened but as you state, a shooter's fundamentals apply no matter the circumstance or equipment.

    As I mention somewhere back there, breathing and other fundamentals are crucial, even if academic and taken for granted by an experienced shooter. I haven't seen, here or anywhere else, conjecture as to the shooter's skills but I believe Mr. Trump was fortunate in that they weren't highly developed.

    "... try running a few sprints and shooting immediately... to see how much breathing matters."

    I said essentially the same without impressing. I don't need the validation but it's nice.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  • @John Johnson
    @Twinkie


    The 5.56 was chosen due to the wounding capability of the round. The premise is that it takes people off the battlefield, (one wounded, 2 to drag away) burns up resources (medical, medical supplies, housing of wounded) and instills fear into combatants. (wounded yelling, screaming etc.)

     

    This is occasionally asserted by random people on the internet, but is untrue.

    The 5.56 was chosen for a variety reasons, including:

    But there could have been a discovered side benefit in that regard.

    Let's say you are against guys with AK-47s. Well you can outrage them with an AR-15. Would you wound them at those ranges? Probably....but who cares? It's not like they can shoot back at you. Getting hit in the arm with the equivalent of a pistol round (given the energy at that range) will still take them out of the fight and may even tie up extra men. The Vietcong in fact complained that 223 wounds were a pain in the ass. They called it the poison bullet because an innocuous looking wound could actually be deadly due to the instability of the bullet. It can enter a limb and end up in an organ.

    I can tell you one thing which is that I would definitely not want to be a Russian with a stock AK against an M4 with red dot. Screw that. In low light you would be in major trouble. The AK is cool and everything but an M4 with a red dot shoots like a video game.

    Jeff Cooper once opined that the 7.62x51mm (or the civilian equivalent .308 Winchester) was the best “all-around” rifle cartridge. In this assessment, I agree.

    Yea but he was talking about "all around" as in for hunting and defense.

    I really doubt he would endorse a 308 battle rifle for regular infantry. 308 looks great on paper but in real life an extra 2-3 pounds really add up over a day of hiking. The 16 inch barrels will blast your ears. I've had to double up on ear protection when next to one. The 20 is a lot better and now we have lost even more nimbleness compared to a 223 rifle.

    The US military has done exhaustive tests and settled on 6.8. So all kind of moot anyways.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Let’s say you are against guys with AK-47s. Well you can outrage them with an AR-15. Would you wound them at those ranges? Probably….but who cares? It’s not like they can shoot back at you. Getting hit in the arm with the equivalent of a pistol round (given the energy at that range) will still take them out of the fight and may even tie up extra men.

    I don’t know what video game fantasy scenario you are constructing, but in a gun fight, I don’t want hits on my opponent’s arm in the hope that I’ll get lucky and he’ll be out of a fight and bring down a friend too. Did you know that people have two arms and can operate firearms with their weak hands? I know I do. I would not underestimate my opponent to not be able to do likewise.

    I can tell you one thing which is that I would definitely not want to be a Russian with a stock AK against an M4 with red dot. Screw that. In low light you would be in major trouble. The AK is cool and everything but an M4 with a red dot shoots like a video game.

    I don’t know about “a video game” as I’ve never played, but the operator and his training and capabilities are primary, not his gear. There are men in this world who can kill you with a single shot rifle while you are decked out in the latest tacticool gear.

    Also, I don’t know what it’s like in a video game, but red dots in real life (e.g. Aimpoint) improve speed of hits in close quarters. They generally do not improve precision in medium to long distance shooting – for that you need glass (e.g. Trijicon ACOG, a four-power illuminated scope).

    308 looks great on paper but in real life an extra 2-3 pounds really add up over a day of hiking.

    Light is always better ceteris paribus. But US mil brought back the M14’s as DMRs in Afghanistan for a reason. The 175 grain 7.62 NATO just delivers a huge punch compared to the 5.56 beyond, say, 300 meters. At 1,000 meters, it’s not even a comparison.

    We’ve now come full circle. US mil went to the 5.56, because combat data from WWII and Korea showed that most firefights were close- to mid-distance. The data from Afghanistan showed that more than half of the firefights took place at 500 meters or beyond.

    The US military has done exhaustive tests and settled on 6.8.

    The 6.8x51mm? We’ll see. The casing is the same length as the 7.62 NATO. Unsurprisingly, it’s supposedly effective beyond 600 meters even against armored targets.

    a 223 rifle

    Take care not to mix 5.56 and .223 chambers or ammo.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Twinkie


    Let’s say you are against guys with AK-47s. Well you can outrage them with an AR-15. Would you wound them at those ranges? Probably….but who cares?
     
    I don’t know what video game fantasy scenario you are constructing, but in a gun fight, I don’t want hits on my opponent’s arm in the hope that I’ll get lucky and he’ll be out of a fight and bring down a friend too.

    Luck has nothing to do with it. It's a rational move in the scenario I described.

    An AR-15 will outrange an AK-47.

    If you can make the shot then you take it.

    What exactly would you be afraid of if you are 300 yards away? A wounded enemy deciding to charge you with a broken arm or collarbone? Good for them. They'd have to close the range and shoot while wounded. You can go prone and take your shots.

    You're not even reading my posts.

    It makes sense to wound them if they can't shoot back at you.

    I don’t know about “a video game” as I’ve never played, but the operator and his training and capabilities are primary, not his gear. There are men in this world who can kill you with a single shot rifle while you are decked out in the latest tacticool gear.

    Has nothing to do with tacticool gear.

    A $500 Ar-15 with a red dot isn't that much different than shooting a simulator. The point is that it doesn't have a lot of kick and aiming is easy.

    The principle is true even if you are shooting it your underwear.

    Also, I don’t know what it’s like in a video game, but red dots in real life (e.g. Aimpoint) improve speed of hits in close quarters.

    They improve accuracy in low light and they are much better than garbage mil-spec stocks at medium range. You get a wider view of the target. The mil-spec stock on both the M16 and AK47 covers too much of the target. With a red dot you zero the bottom tip and you can hit balloon size targets much easier at 200 yards. Yes there are better mid range scopes that are illuminated but I'm making a point on how much an cheap AR-15 with a basic red dot would beat a stock AK47 in combat. I've seen Ukrainians with M4s and red dots. A huge advantage over a Russian with a 1970s Ak47. I have in fact seen very few of the AK74s. As with the T-90s it seems that most of them were sold overseas.

    Replies: @prosa123

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    if this is not a really big hint that he was joking then I don’t know what is
     
    Forget it, Jack. It's Koreatown.

    Twinkie AI will now post a cringe reference to Rooftop Koreans.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You two do make a cute couple.

    I always considered you two the different sides of the same coin.

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    You shouldn’t be “sniping” with a 5.56.
     
    As a potentially needed tactic, you can “snipe” (or at least try to suppress on a two-way range) with what you got with you on scene. But whatever you have with you, you sure ain’t likely to be Moe Zam Beeking beyond CQB range, which is my point: Your initial reference to “Mozambique” was a non sequitur digression in a discussion about longer-range engagement tactics.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    But whatever you have with you, you sure ain’t likely to be Moe Zam Beeking beyond CQB range

    Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I already gave you two situations under which you would attempt headshots after the center mass failed.

    If, for example, the target is wearing a plate carrier and the center mass shot doesn’t bring him down, I am going to switch to attempting headshots – whatever the distance.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    If, for example, the target is wearing a plate carrier and the center mass shot doesn’t bring him down, I am going to switch to attempting headshots – whatever the distance.
     
    Nah, after the failed center mass hits you’re going to be sending rounds at an evading beyond-CQB target who has been alerted to the danger. Now you’re simply headhunting—if for some reason his head stays up and stays stationary, you’re super lucky. It’s not recognizably bangbang—bang Mozambique. Which makes sense—it’s a CQB-specific tactic.

    Of course, “Mozambique” is a non sequitur regarding the Trump shooting—there was no “Mozambique” opportunity given the sideways orientation of the body (right arm usually blocking some of the body mass, plus the possible existence of low-profile body armor), likely cover-seeking reaction of the target (Trump indeed quickly ducked into SS cover), and likely immediate inbound counter-sniper rounds preventing a followup headhunting opportunity.
  • @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Jenner is not my favorite human (the feeling is mutual I am sure) but, c'mon he said

    " ‘dirtbag left’ message boards like Angie’s List and J.D. Power"

    if this is not a really big hint that he was joking then I don't know what is.

    It's not Jenner's fault that among all of your many admirable qualities (world's only wealthy 6'7" Korean with beauty queen white wife and perfect kids, etc.) God completely forgot to give you a sense of humor.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Gandydancer

    God completely forgot to give you a sense of humor.

    First, don’t blaspheme.

    I’ll take my humor cues from someone other than a person who goes around calling Asians “gooks” and thinks “That’s just humor.”

    Note that such posts of yours garnered zero “LOL” tags.

    I bet I have far more LOL per post than you do. For that matter, I don’t believe Steve Sailer ever highlighted a comment of yours for being funny as he did with one of mine. Then I again, I have a dry sense of humor and don’t resort to slurs like “Kikes like you” supposedly as “humor.”

    all of your many admirable qualities (world’s only wealthy 6’7″ Korean with beauty queen white wife and perfect kids, etc.)

    Your envy and resentment are, as usual, noted.

    You know, trying to pull down someone better than you doesn’t help you at all. Self-improvement does. Work on that (including your own sense of humor) a bit more instead of humiliating yourself counterproductively on the internet.

  • @epebble
    @Mike Tre

    The military doesn’t teach its troops how to shoot to wound.

    Military replaced 7.62 ×39mm with 5.56 ×45mm. The 5.56 was chosen due to the wounding capability of the round. The premise is that it takes people off the battlefield, (one wounded, 2 to drag away) burns up resources (medical, medical supplies, housing of wounded) and instills fear into combatants. (wounded yelling, screaming etc.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Twinkie

    Military replaced 7.62 ×39mm with 5.56 ×45mm

    The US mil replaced 7.62x51mm NATO with the 5.56x45mm NATO as the general service rifle cartridge. The former is chambered by the likes of M14, M60 (“the Pig”), and M240.

    7.62x39mm Soviet is the cartridge AKM’s chamber.

    The 5.56 was chosen due to the wounding capability of the round. The premise is that it takes people off the battlefield, (one wounded, 2 to drag away) burns up resources (medical, medical supplies, housing of wounded) and instills fear into combatants. (wounded yelling, screaming etc.)

    This is occasionally asserted by random people on the internet, but is untrue.

    The 5.56 was chosen for a variety reasons, including:

    1. Lighter weight; can be carried in much greater loads than the 7.62 NATO.
    2. Controllability in full-auto and bursts (in contrast to, say, the 7.62 NATO chambered M14, FN-FAL, and G3).
    3. The effectiveness of the cartridge in short-to-medium distance due to yawing/cavitation as well as fragmentation (with the original 55 grain M193 round).
    4. The post-WWII and Korean War findings that showed that infantry firefights took places at short-to-medium ranges and that the full-size battle rifle cartridges were overkill in a number of ways.

    Incidentally, the Soviets came to a similar conclusion after observing the deployment of the 5.56 and came up with their own version (5.45x39mm Soviet), which was chambered by their AK-74 rifles (this, despite the fact that the 7.62 Soviet was already an “intermediate” cartridge). And, just as with the 5.56, the Russians have discovered that 5.45 suffers from a barrier penetration issue and are discussing re-deploying (a modern version of) the 7.62 Soviet.

    Jeff Cooper once opined that the 7.62x51mm (or the civilian equivalent .308 Winchester) was the best “all-around” rifle cartridge. In this assessment, I agree. A friend of mine – who was an Army SOF sniper in Mogadishu – doesn’t even own a 5.56-chambered rifle. He mainly uses 7.62 NATO-chambered rifles for “social” purposes. That said, the 5.56 is highly effective in what I call “suburban” ranges against unarmored targets and can be easily mastered by everyone in the family, including women and children.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre, Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Twinkie


    The 5.56 was chosen due to the wounding capability of the round. The premise is that it takes people off the battlefield, (one wounded, 2 to drag away) burns up resources (medical, medical supplies, housing of wounded) and instills fear into combatants. (wounded yelling, screaming etc.)

     

    This is occasionally asserted by random people on the internet, but is untrue.

    The 5.56 was chosen for a variety reasons, including:

    But there could have been a discovered side benefit in that regard.

    Let's say you are against guys with AK-47s. Well you can outrage them with an AR-15. Would you wound them at those ranges? Probably....but who cares? It's not like they can shoot back at you. Getting hit in the arm with the equivalent of a pistol round (given the energy at that range) will still take them out of the fight and may even tie up extra men. The Vietcong in fact complained that 223 wounds were a pain in the ass. They called it the poison bullet because an innocuous looking wound could actually be deadly due to the instability of the bullet. It can enter a limb and end up in an organ.

    I can tell you one thing which is that I would definitely not want to be a Russian with a stock AK against an M4 with red dot. Screw that. In low light you would be in major trouble. The AK is cool and everything but an M4 with a red dot shoots like a video game.

    Jeff Cooper once opined that the 7.62x51mm (or the civilian equivalent .308 Winchester) was the best “all-around” rifle cartridge. In this assessment, I agree.

    Yea but he was talking about "all around" as in for hunting and defense.

    I really doubt he would endorse a 308 battle rifle for regular infantry. 308 looks great on paper but in real life an extra 2-3 pounds really add up over a day of hiking. The 16 inch barrels will blast your ears. I've had to double up on ear protection when next to one. The 20 is a lot better and now we have lost even more nimbleness compared to a 223 rifle.

    The US military has done exhaustive tests and settled on 6.8. So all kind of moot anyways.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • What do you think?
  • @Torna atrás
    @Twinkie

    India is undergoing chaebolization so it's interesting to compare the wealth of Korean billionaires to Indian billionaires. Mukesh Ambani at $123B is worth more than Korea’s top 50 combined (pretty much all chaebol titans).

    We live in interesting times indeed!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    India is undergoing chaebolization

    Do elaborate more, please.

    so it’s interesting to compare the wealth of Korean billionaires to Indian billionaires. Mukesh Ambani at $123B is worth more than Korea’s top 50 combined (pretty much all chaebol titans).

    Do you see that as a positive?

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Twinkie

    I’d hate to see the Gini Index for India, probably nearly as bad as Britain.

  • @Curle
    @Twinkie


    Nothing in his career . . . suggested any sincere national-populism or Trumpism.
     
    Except that Hillbilly Elegy points a harsh spotlight on the results of internationalism and finance capitalism the very enemies of the populist. He may not have intended to make the finance uniparty look bad but he did.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Except that Hillbilly Elegy points a harsh spotlight on the results of internationalism and finance capitalism the very enemies of the populist. He may not have intended to make the finance uniparty look bad but he did.

    I found the “messaging” in his book “mixed,” to say the least.

    As for finance capitalism, you know Vance worked in VC, right?

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Twinkie

    After he wrote the book, right?

    Anyway, the biggest critics are those who’ve seen the sausage being made.

  • Donald Trump appears to have been shot near the right ear at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. He fairly quickly regained his feet, pumped his fist a few times to his supporters, and was helped to walk off by the Secret Service, with blood visible on the right side of his head. He was taken...
  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    So from now on, when you correct some commenter here with facts, he can just dismiss you as an austist?
     
    Your “tism goggles”, as an erstwhile commenter once put it, is causing you to imprudently (and comically) react to my “remote psych analysis” of the hopeless Dandyprancer.

    J.Ross started with his own gaffe by not knowing about the popular ‘guntuber’ channel Demolition Ranch, speculating (without evidence) about it being an antifa concern of some sort: Of course I had to have some fun, with a pun on ranch dressing and making absurd references to “Angie’s List” and “J.D. Powers” as being hosts for leftist message boards. Only spergs and East Asians (but I repeat myself) would step in to “correct” such ‘errors’, LOL.

    By the way, when I later asked Gandy if he went on a “wild goose chase”, I didn’t mean literally—it’s an idiom in the English language…


    Gandy: Why would I chase a wild goose, and what does chasing a wild goose have to do with you being wrong about Angie’s List being a leftist message board??

    Twinkie: JIE, why are you unmanly changing the subject and accusing people of chasing geese? Why would he chase a goose?
     

    Tough scene. Disclaimer to spergs: the above are not actual quotes.

    No more “owning” the internet for you, I guess.
     
    No need to in this instance—you and Gandy have owned yourselves. At least J.Ross likely knew, along with 99% of others who my comment, that I was taking the piss, as the Brits say. (Okay maybe only 80%—lotta spergs here, and some foreigners who might not recognize the American Boomer-friendly references to the consumer report companies, not to mention being unable to recognize puns in English.)

    Replies: @Gandydancer, @Twinkie, @hhsiii

    I see you like making “movies” in your mind and being a superhero in it. Have fun, kiddo.

    You know who else likes to fall back on “I was just joking” routine when he’s in the wrong? Jack D. You should ponder that a bit.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    Jenner is not my favorite human (the feeling is mutual I am sure) but, c'mon he said

    " ‘dirtbag left’ message boards like Angie’s List and J.D. Power"

    if this is not a really big hint that he was joking then I don't know what is.

    It's not Jenner's fault that among all of your many admirable qualities (world's only wealthy 6'7" Korean with beauty queen white wife and perfect kids, etc.) God completely forgot to give you a sense of humor.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Gandydancer

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    Not everybody gets 7.62/308, let alone 338 Lapua.
     
    Mozambique doesn’t seem practical for beyond-CQB targets that can move and take cover. Is the targeted tango gonna stand still for a headshot after getting twice tagged center mass (or anywhere else)? If so, it’s likely a nonliving decoy you’re hitting. ;)

    Certainly in the example of the attempt on Trump, who can move independently and has quick cover coming to him, expecting to land a second shot on anything better than minute of good guy is pretty ambitious.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @John Johnson

    You shouldn’t be “sniping” with a 5.56. The terminal effectiveness of a 5.56 round beyond, say, 150 meters declines dramatically while its propensity to be affected by ambient conditions rises significantly as well.

    For practical intents and purposes, 5.56 is a CQB round.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    You shouldn’t be “sniping” with a 5.56.
     
    As a potentially needed tactic, you can “snipe” (or at least try to suppress on a two-way range) with what you got with you on scene. But whatever you have with you, you sure ain’t likely to be Moe Zam Beeking beyond CQB range, which is my point: Your initial reference to “Mozambique” was a non sequitur digression in a discussion about longer-range engagement tactics.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Mike Tre
    @Twinkie

    Supposedly the new 885A1 (or whatever) green tip has better tumbling properties than the original.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Supposedly the new 885A1 (or whatever) green tip has better tumbling properties than the original.

    It is supposedly less likely to produce “through and through” shots than the M885/SS109 by yawing more consistently (at wider band of angles) even at longer ranges out of shorter barrels (M4) all the while having the greater barrier penetration capability than the original.

    I don’t know that there is enough large-scale real world data to say definitively one way or another, but I tend to be skeptical about these kinds of claims of does-everything-better “optimization.” Rarely, if ever, do things in real life do everything well.

    For everyday self-defense at normal “suburban” ranges, the original 55 grain M193 works very well. That said, barrier penetration is still an issue. There just isn’t much you can do with a bullet that small and light, as you likely know.

    I’ve been experimenting with a highly customized AKM of late that Krebs made for me. The trouble with that platform is finding good quality (read consistent) ammo.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
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  • @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    I am reasonably certain that I know a lot more about AFVs than you do, but that is beside the point. If wee are not going to go to war war then we don't need newer tanks at all, and if we do go to war we will need more usable tanks (like the older M1s) than we can produce at a moment's notice. And that's the way our actions in Ukraine, which you apparently support, are heading. You want to simultaneously invite war AND "shrink the military", which is lunacy.

    Just because money is "spent in the US" doesn't mean it isn't being pissed down a rathole.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I am reasonably certain that I know a lot more about AFVs than you do

    “A lot more,” eh? Do demonstrate, please. For example, tell me the differences between the first and second generations of the thermal imaging system on the Abrams tanks and the their implications for combat.

    If wee are not going to go to war war then we don’t need newer tanks at all, and if we do go to war we will need more usable tanks (like the older M1s) than we can produce at a moment’s notice.

    The M1E3 that will be produced going forward is going to be much more survivable, especially in context of the newer identified threats than the older variants in storage (some of which were sent to Ukraine).

    You want to simultaneously invite war AND “shrink the military”, which is lunacy.

    I don’t want to invite war. Everything the Russian government has done – whatever its rhetoric – makes it pretty clear that it wants to avoid a direct conflict with NATO and the US. However, I am not opposed to aiding states – via materiel, not the bones of a single Arkansas infantryman (to paraphrase v. Bismarck) – that are under invasion by neighbors intent on enlarging territory by force of arms, which is highly destabilizing to the international order.

    Just because money is “spent in the US” doesn’t mean it isn’t being pissed down a rathole.

    That’s a slogan. None of this – again – has anything to do with the various strawmen you ascribed to me and your disingenuous arguments.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    No, it's not a slogan. It's a basic criticism of the implication of your claim that its a substantially good thing that the money for "aid to Ukraine" is being spent in the US. The article you linked to said that such spending was a good thing because it provided a boost to the US economy and while you have denied that that was YOUR meaning you haven't provided any alternative benefit so I have still no idea what distinction you think you are drawing.

    Yes, Russia has no desire to go to war with NATO. That is not to say that it will under no circumstances go to war with NATO. E.g., Macron is talking about sending Foreign Legion troops to fight in Ukraine. What's next? I anyway don't share your confidence that Biden will know at what point he needs to stop escalating to avoid it. The course you are set on does indeed invite war with Russia, at least in comparison with the course #I# would set.

    That the M1E3 is better does not answer anything I said.

    A better thermal imaging system is better, but if you think replacing the Hughes system with the Palomar one will will have enormous implications for combat you have swallowed more Palomar sales yak than I have.

  • Donald Trump appears to have been shot near the right ear at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. He fairly quickly regained his feet, pumped his fist a few times to his supporters, and was helped to walk off by the Secret Service, with blood visible on the right side of his head. He was taken...
  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie

    I see my original post has now snagged two austists. I can't believe this site is free :)

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Twinkie

    So from now on, when you correct some commenter here with facts, he can just dismiss you as an austist?

    No more “owning” the internet for you, I guess.

    Hypocrisy makes no one look good, grasshopper.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    So from now on, when you correct some commenter here with facts, he can just dismiss you as an austist?
     
    Your “tism goggles”, as an erstwhile commenter once put it, is causing you to imprudently (and comically) react to my “remote psych analysis” of the hopeless Dandyprancer.

    J.Ross started with his own gaffe by not knowing about the popular ‘guntuber’ channel Demolition Ranch, speculating (without evidence) about it being an antifa concern of some sort: Of course I had to have some fun, with a pun on ranch dressing and making absurd references to “Angie’s List” and “J.D. Powers” as being hosts for leftist message boards. Only spergs and East Asians (but I repeat myself) would step in to “correct” such ‘errors’, LOL.

    By the way, when I later asked Gandy if he went on a “wild goose chase”, I didn’t mean literally—it’s an idiom in the English language…


    Gandy: Why would I chase a wild goose, and what does chasing a wild goose have to do with you being wrong about Angie’s List being a leftist message board??

    Twinkie: JIE, why are you unmanly changing the subject and accusing people of chasing geese? Why would he chase a goose?
     

    Tough scene. Disclaimer to spergs: the above are not actual quotes.

    No more “owning” the internet for you, I guess.
     
    No need to in this instance—you and Gandy have owned yourselves. At least J.Ross likely knew, along with 99% of others who my comment, that I was taking the piss, as the Brits say. (Okay maybe only 80%—lotta spergs here, and some foreigners who might not recognize the American Boomer-friendly references to the consumer report companies, not to mention being unable to recognize puns in English.)

    Replies: @Gandydancer, @Twinkie, @hhsiii

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    Or… do both the center mass and the head. Mozambique drill
     
    Er, isn't that a CQB handgun technique? Never heard of snipers doing that, lol

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Er, isn’t that a CQB handgun technique? Never heard of snipers doing that, lol

    The Mozambique Drill was indeed originally developed as a close quarter technique, but it is used with long guns, especially in two contexts. One, the other guy has a plate carrier. Two, you are using the 62 grain green tip in 5.56mm NATO, which offers better barrier penetration than the 55 grain FMJ, but lacks the tumbling tendency of the latter. It occasionally did a through and through on “skinnies” and kept them in the fight. Not everybody gets 7.62/308, let alone 338 Lapua.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    Not everybody gets 7.62/308, let alone 338 Lapua.
     
    Mozambique doesn’t seem practical for beyond-CQB targets that can move and take cover. Is the targeted tango gonna stand still for a headshot after getting twice tagged center mass (or anywhere else)? If so, it’s likely a nonliving decoy you’re hitting. ;)

    Certainly in the example of the attempt on Trump, who can move independently and has quick cover coming to him, expecting to land a second shot on anything better than minute of good guy is pretty ambitious.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @John Johnson

    , @Mike Tre
    @Twinkie

    Supposedly the new 885A1 (or whatever) green tip has better tumbling properties than the original.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Mike Tre
    @Colin Wright

    " This isn’t Hill 302 and trying to break up the enemy’s attack. "

    LOL WTF are you talking about. The military doesn't teach its troops how to shoot to wound. You get shot in the chest with a rifle round and you are a dead man.

    " People are hard to kill to begin with — they always frigging live."

    And this isn't the ghetto where negroes are shooting each other in the ass and legs with half jackets or wad cutters. Look at the the linked graphic. While head shots are clearly more often fatal, chest shots are fatal half the time, and that's with a pistol round.

    https://heyjackass.com/2024-shot-placement/

    The head is a smaller target than the chest, which is why center mass is taught.. for killing. It's the same for hunting game. Ever been hunting? Hunters don't aim for the head, they target the vital area (the upper chest):

    https://feathernettoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/The-Best-Shot-Placement-To-Hit-Deer-Vitals-Every-Time-Never-Miss-Again.png

    You're wrong and so was Trump's attacker. Trump's survival doesn't support your opinion.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Gandydancer, @epebble, @James B. Shearer

    LOL WTF are you talking about. The military doesn’t teach its troops how to shoot to wound. You get shot in the chest with a rifle round and you are a dead man.

    Or… do both the center mass and the head. Mozambique drill, popularized by the late Jeff Cooper.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie


    Or… do both the center mass and the head. Mozambique drill
     
    Er, isn't that a CQB handgun technique? Never heard of snipers doing that, lol

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Gandydancer


    unconcern for the truth demonstrated when you said that Demolition Ranch is a Antifa-associated salad dressing
     
    Okay, thanks for confirming you’ve been diagnosed with autism. :)

    Replies: @Gandydancer, @Twinkie, @Hunsdon

    Okay, thanks for confirming you’ve been diagnosed with autism. 🙂

    It’s okay – and even a manly thing – to admit when you are wrong and stand corrected.

    To do so otherwise reveals a juvenile and insecure soul.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie

    I see my original post has now snagged two austists. I can't believe this site is free :)

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Twinkie

  • What do you think?
  • @BB753
    A young man in politics? Wild, lol! He could still run for president 40 years from now! His policies aren't bad overall except his Israel First position. Raised by a divorcee thrice married and raised by his grandparents. (Bad). Married to an Indian chick ( strange), ex-military ( bad), convert to Roman Catholicism ( phony). If you ask me, I think this guy is an opportunist.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Twinkie, @Anon, @Bill Jones, @Trinity

    Raised by a divorcee thrice married and raised by his grandparents. (Bad).

    He had no control over that.

    Married to an Indian chick ( strange)

    See my comment to AnotherDad above.

    ex-military ( bad)

    That’s not “bad.” Lots of directionless or poor boys out of the Midwest and the South join the military out of high school and find purpose in life.

    convert to Roman Catholicism ( phony)

    I am not one to doubt another man’s spiritual core, so I take that conversion at face value. That said, most genuine conversions I know are where both husbands and wives (and the children) convert together. I’ve never seen genuine conversions where only one spouse converts while the other remains a pagan (not even another sect of Christianity).

    If you ask me, I think this guy is an opportunist.

    In this I agree.

    Then again, even Trump is an opportunist. I suppose we should be okay with that as long as they are our opportunists and formulate and carry out policies that are patriotic (even if such actions align with their particular political, “opportunistic” interests).

    Don’t forget that politics is not about principles. It’s about pressure.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Twinkie


    That said, most genuine conversions I know are where both husbands and wives (and the children) convert together. I’ve never seen genuine conversions where only one spouse converts while the other remains a pagan (not even another sect of Christianity).
     
    Well, Scott Hahn converted, but not his wife. She did later, but to me it seemed more like an act of exasperation.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81dsiNUIOwL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    , @BB753
    @Twinkie

    Agreed Vance had no control over his upbringing, but we're not talking about guilt here, rather what kind of man his upbringing turned him into. Statistically, persons raised by a serial divorcee mother and by grandparents do not come out alright but usually unbalanced and with all kind of issues which might be hidden but buried deep inside. If I had to guess, he has both daddy and mommy issues, which makes him vulnerable to manipulation and a mess. Time will tell.

    As for his military background, I'm not crazy about ex-military because: a) they look down on everybody as lesser people, particularly foreigners because they were part of a military machine which wrongly believes it is the best and can push anybody around. In short, it breeds bullies b) I don't like yes-men. That's what the military is all about: obeying orders from entitled idiots.

    You're right that it doesn't make sense to convert to a Christian pesido-church while your wife still worships idols and demons like hinduists do.
    On the other hand, I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would convert to Roman Catholicism in this day and age, a modernist and apostate church. If you're looking for the authentic Catholic Church, Holy Orthodoxy is the only choice for a serious inquirer who delves into church history.

    Of course, all politicians are cut from the same cloth: ambition, lack of scruples and personality, capacity for deceit and reading people and crowds, opportunism, lack of intellectual interests and any marketable skills outside of politics.
    That is what makes Trump unique: he never intended to become a politician. Hence his natural greater than life personality and his charisma, like him or not.
    Let's just hope Vance is not a warmonger in disguise. Sadly, he's a cheap Israel firster like Trump.

    Replies: @Prester John

  • @AnotherDad
    I like it. Vance might not be the most "exciting" guy, but he's smart and a solid nod in the direction the party needs to go and helpful in the electoral math:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/joe-biden-proposes-only-sensible-solution/#comment-6662200

    I'll also so that I'm really glad not to get Tim Scott or the like. This endless pandering to blacks--essentially accepting the premises of minoritarianism that the white gentiles who built America not only do not have the right to this joint, continuing to live here in accordance with our values, norms, traditions, history, culture, but are somehow "icky"--has got to go.

    Let the Democrats continue to be the Parasite Party of verbalist/finance Jews (running the show) and blacks, pushing anti-white minoritarianism, with virtue signaling "good whites" lapping it up. The Republicans should be the normie middle and working class "Producer Party"--mostly white, while open to other productive folks, native and immigrant who want to embrace traditional American norms and be loyal to their fellow Americans and the interests of "our posterity". The America that could have, should have been--and would have been competitive with China--is--sadly--gone. But the great battle ahead is building a nationalist coalition to stop the Jewish "must have immigration!" lunacy ASAP--before we start downloading more and more blacks from Steve's "World's Most Important Graph" ... and slump right on past Brazil, toward South Africa.

    Vance--at least in part founding stock Scots-Irish--is a nod to "it's ok to be white" and traditional America. And as such a show of American confidence and self-esteem, instead of embarrassing "diversity!" capitulation.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Rick P

    I’ve always been skeptical of Vance and I hope to be proven wrong.

    But first credit where it’s due – Vance has pulled himself up from deprived backgrounds and made something of himself and that is to be lauded.

    However, here are some of the reasons why I am skeptical of him:

    1. He has shown a persistent tendency to attach himself to powerful patrons who could advance his career and “adjust” himself to the latter as needed, be they Amy Chua, Peter Thiel, David Frum, and lately Donald Trump. His resume screams a serial “Opportunist!”

    2. He made pretty clear in his post-Ohio State career that he was angling for an elite position for himself in this world and was hobnobbing with powerful elites as a trophy “explainer” of the “folks back home.” All that seems to have changed with the rise of Trump. Again, screams “Opportunist!”

    3. Men are often – in the background – shaped by the women they marry. Or at minimum, the women they choose say much about their character and preferences. We know, for example, that Justice Alito or Thomas would never go swamp, because they are married to fire-breathing conservative women. Roberts of Chevy Chase, on the other hand, is married to a society-type woman and we see what has become of a once supposedly conservative jurist who seems terrified to sully his reputation among the country club types of Chevy Chase.

    I think it’s odd, but I don’t – in the end – have a problem with him being married to an Indian-American. The heart does what it does. The problem I have with him picking Usha is that she is not what one would call a patriotic American (of Indian background). She has shown all the markings of the not uncommon elite-grubbing Indian immigrants and their offspring in America who support the Democrats something like 9-to-1.

    Nothing in his career – until Donald Trump captured the GOP and made public fealty to him a condition of advancement in the party – suggested any sincere national-populism or Trumpism. Reagan was said to have accepted those who were one-way converts. Well, Reagan’s legacy was badly tarnished by the non-Reaganites who were in his administration, who pretended to be one-way converts to his cause, but were not, in reality, converts at all.

    I fear that Vance might be one of those. Again, I hope to be proven wrong.

    In any case, I hope Vance makes a mincemeat out of Harris in a debate. The intellectual gap between the two is substantial.

    • Agree: Bumpkin
    • Thanks: AnotherDad, MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Curle
    @Twinkie


    Nothing in his career . . . suggested any sincere national-populism or Trumpism.
     
    Except that Hillbilly Elegy points a harsh spotlight on the results of internationalism and finance capitalism the very enemies of the populist. He may not have intended to make the finance uniparty look bad but he did.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Greta Handel
    @Twinkie

    The last half of Hillbilly Elegy: Movie vs. Book (Margot Metroland • November 30, 2020) expressed similar concerns about Mr. Vance’s career strategies and sincerity.

    No one from the Establishment is going to rescue you from itself.

    , @Torna atrás
    @Twinkie

    India is undergoing chaebolization so it's interesting to compare the wealth of Korean billionaires to Indian billionaires. Mukesh Ambani at $123B is worth more than Korea’s top 50 combined (pretty much all chaebol titans).

    We live in interesting times indeed!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Corvinus
    @Twinkie

    "He has shown a persistent tendency to attach himself to powerful patrons who could advance his career and “adjust” himself to the latter as needed, be they Amy Chua, Peter Thiel, David Frum, and lately Donald Trump. His resume screams a serial “Opportunist!”"

    Exactly! What do you think Trump is as well? An "opportunist". Every move he makes is transactional. Mr. Sailer knows both men have this trait, but outright refuses to NOTICE it. Vance is part of the elitist crowd.

    In a similar fashion, Sailer points out the gaffes made by Biden (battlebox), but mum is the word given the GOP presidential nominees own significant cognitive decline and pathology (narcissist, serial liar).

    "Men are often – in the background – shaped by the women they marry."

    Men are shaped by a combination of factors. Certainly their wife may help their husband learn how to accentuate certain desirable traits or to blunt undesirable ones, but it's usually baked in the cake how a man thinks and acts.

    "Or at minimum, the women they choose say much about their character and preferences."

    Right. He married outside of his race, which is a refutation of "pro-whitism", and that is driving a segment of the Alt Right bonkers. How could Trump pick someone who married and is siring offspring with a woman whose family members are immigrants?

    "I think it’s odd, but I don’t – in the end – have a problem with him being married to an Indian-American. The heart does what it does."

    So it's not odd after all.

    "The problem I have with him picking Usha is that she is not what one would call a patriotic American (of Indian background)."

    LOL, says the Asian man who supposedly married a white woman, whose own ancestors were deemed by nativists as unassimilable and unpatriotic.

    "She has shown all the markings of the not uncommon elite-grubbing Indian immigrants and their offspring in America who support the Democrats something like 9-to-1."

    Details, please.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    , @Jack D
    @Twinkie


    The intellectual gap between the two is substantial.
     
    Yes it is. Despite Harris having the better pedigree, there was clearly regression toward the mean in her case.

    But, a debate is not an LSAT. Harris has shown little aptitude as a debater either but this is more down to her fruitcake personality and politics than to her lack of intellectual merit. Still, it's too early to declare victory for Vance in any future debate.

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  • An op-ed from the Harvard Crimson: A sociologist, Bobo was appointed Dean of Social Science Claudine Gay in 2018. Gay and Bobo then teamed up to get economics department superstar Roland Fryer suspended. E.g., his mentor, Harvard president Claudine Gay, getting fired after her plagiarism was discovered. , sharply critical speech from faculty, prominent ones...
  • @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    In February 1800, Thomas Jefferson wrote in his journal this notation about Washington: "Gouverneur Morris, who pretended to be in his secrets and believed himself to be so, has often told me that Genl. Washington believed no more of that system [Christianity] than he himself did."

    On one occasion, Christian chaplains in the army urged Washington to expel a Universalist chaplain who denied the existence of hell. But Washington refused.

    Historian Barry Schwartz writes: "George Washington's practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian. He repeatedly declined the church's sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary. Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative."

    Paul F. Bolles Jr. states in his anthology on Washington, "There is no mention of Jesus Christ anywhere in his extensive correspondence."

    Replies: @Twinkie

    You know, there is no dialogue here if all you do is engage in blind monologues. Read my comment above: https://www.unz.com/isteve/what-would-william-james-say/#comment-6642944

    In it, you will note a link to a Wikipedia article that details the disputes and controversy surrounding Washington’s religious beliefs. The article enumerates some of the points you list in your comment, but also provides contradictions such as:

    [MORE]

    Washington attended the Anglican Church through all of his life, and was baptized as an infant. He was a member of several churches which he attended, and served as an Anglican vestryman and warden for more than fifteen years, when Virginia had an established church. As a young man he also joined the Freemasons, which also promoted spiritual and moral values for society. His personal letters and public speeches sometimes referred to “Providence”, a term for God used by both Christians and deists.

    Washington paid for pews at several churches. Rev. Lee Massey, his pastor wrote, “I never knew so constant an attendant in church as Washington.”[9] However, Washington’s personal diaries[10] indicate that he did not regularly attend services while home at Mount Vernon, spending most Sundays writing letters, conducting business, fox-hunting, or doing other activities. Biographer Paul Leicester Ford wrote:

    His daily “where and how my time is spent” tells how often he attended church, and in the year 1760 he went sixteen times, and in 1768 he went fourteen.[11]

    While he was at Mount Vernon, his first parish was Pohick Church, seven miles (11 km) from Mt. Vernon; his second parish in Alexandria was nine miles (14 km) away.[7]

    When traveling, particularly on political business, he was more likely to attend church services. In the seven Sundays during the First Continental Congress in Philadelphia, he went to church on three occasions, attending Anglican, Quaker, and Catholic services.[12] During his tours of the nation in his two terms as president, he attended religious services in each city, sometimes as frequently as three services in a day.[13]

    The record of Washington receiving communion was spotty.[14] Ministers at four of the churches Washington often attended wrote that he regularly left services before communion.

    After the religious ceremony and Pulpit service Washington, along with the greater congregation, would exit the church, leaving wife Martha with the communicants to receive communion. In one definitive case a Pastor James Abercrombie of St. Peter’s Episcopal Church, in Philadelphia took exception to the advent and, considering it his duty, said in one of his sermons that he was unhappy to see people in elevated stations not set an example by receiving communion. He later admitted that the remark was intended for the President, and indeed Washington had assumed the remark was aimed at him. Washington later discussed the incident with a Congressman at a dinner and related to him that he had honored the preacher for his integrity and candour, and that he had never considered that his example was of any influence. Never being a communicant, Washington felt that if he were to begin it would be seen as an ostentatious display of a President flaunting his religion solely prompted by the Pastor’s remarks. Historian Paul F. Boller suggests that Washington, a man who had helped to promote a major war, refrained from receiving communion from the idea that his heart and mind were not in “a proper condition to receive the sacrament,” and that Washington simply did not want to indulge in something he regarded to be an act of hypocrisy on his part.[15] After the incident it is believed that Washington completely stopped attending that church on communion Sundays.[16][17]

    In 1915 the great-grandson of Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton reported that his grandmother said, when she was 97 years old (about 1854), “If anyone ever tells you that George Washington was not a communicant in the Church, you say that your great-grandmother told you to say that she ‘had knelt at this chancel rail at his side and received with him the Holy Communion.’”[18]

    Nonetheless, it was also not uncommon in those days for churchgoers to pass on participating in communion.[7]

    Washington used the word “God” 146 times in his personal and public writings, many of which were in his public speeches[26] and while some were regularly used phrases such as “thank God,” “God knows,” “for God’s sake,” or “my God!” there are many other examples where Washington used thoughtful expressions about God and His Providence.

    From his Headquarters in New York, July 9, 1776, Washington issued a General Order which read, in pertinent part, “The blessing and protection of Heaven are at all times necessary but especially so in times of public distress and danger—The General hopes and trusts, that every officer and man, will endeavour so to live, and act, as becomes a Christian Soldier defending the dearest Rights and Liberties of his country.”[27] Throughout his life, Washington spoke of the value of righteousness, and of seeking and offering thanks for the “blessings of Heaven.” Washington often spoke of “Providence.”[28] The Catholic historian and philosopher Michael Novak writes that Anglican laymen of that period rarely invoked the name of Jesus Christ.[29] The most famous reference came in a 1779 letter to a delegation of Native Americans. The letter was in the handwriting of an aide, and the leading biographers, including Chernow, Henriques and Freeman, say that the aide wrote it, not Washington:[30]

    You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do every thing they can to assist you in this wise intention; and to tie the knot of friendship and union so fast, that nothing shall ever be able to loose it.[31]

    Washington referenced Jesus as the “divine Author of our blessed Religion” in his “Circular Letter to the Governors” of 1783 in the following prayer

    Washington believed in the importance of religion for republican government. His 1796 Farewell Address, written by Alexander Hamilton and revised by himself, said that it was unrealistic to expect that a whole nation, whatever might be said of minds of peculiar structure, could long be moral without religion, that national morality is necessary for good government, and that politicians should cherish religion’s support of national morality

    Eyewitness accounts exist of Washington engaging in morning devotions. Jared Sparks recorded the following account from Washington’s nephew George W. Lewis: “Mr. Lewis said he had accidentally witnessed [Washington’s] private devotions in his library both morning and evening; that on those occasions he had seen him in a kneeling position with a Bible open before him and that he believed such to have been his daily practice.”[62] Sparks also reports that Washington’s adopted daughter, Nelly Custis-Lewis, in response to his request for information on Washington’s religions views, wrote, “He attended the church at Alexandria when the weather and roads permitted a ride of ten miles (a one-way journey of 2–3 hours by horse or carriage). In New York and Philadelphia he never omitted attendance at church in the morning, unless detained by indisposition [sickness].” She continued by saying “No one in church attended to the services with more reverential respect.” She added: “I should have thought it the greatest heresy to doubt his firm belief in Christianity. His life, his writings, prove that he was a Christian. He was not one of those who act or pray, that they may be seen of men.” In closing, Nelly attempted to answer the question of whether General Washington was a Christian. She responded, “Is it necessary that any one should certify, ‘General Washington avowed himself to me a believer in Christianity?’ As well may we question his patriotism, his heroic, disinterested devotion to his country. His mottos were, ‘Deeds, not Words;’ and, ‘For God and my Country.’”[63]

    During the Revolutionary War, General Robert Porterfield stated he “found him on his knees, engaged in his morning’s devotions.” Alexander Hamilton corroborated Porterfield’s account, stating “such was his most constant habit.”[64] A French citizen who knew Washington well during the Revolutionary War and the presidency stated “Every day of the year, he rises at five in the morning; as soon as he is up, he dresses, then prays reverently to God.”[65] Indeed, Washington had purchased a prayer book “with the New Version of Psalms & good plain Type” a few years before the Revolutionary War.[66]

    And so on.

  • @BB753
    @Twinkie

    That is not what ecumenism means in the Catholic context. "

    The Catholic context is what the RC Church actually says and does. Are you aware of John Paul II's Assisi ecumenical meetings and of him infamously kissing the Koran in a mosque? Every Pope since JPII , Ratzinger included, has prayed in synagogues and mosques jointly with Muslim clerics facing Mecca. Also, what do you make of the Abu Dhabi inter-faith center?
    https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/uae-abrahamic-family-house-david-adjaye-intl/index.html
    How long have you been a Roman Catholic? It looks as if you joined the Church like one joins the Rotary club.

    About Washington and his cronies, you're right we will never know whether they were Christians or Deists or atheists. ( Though we do know Benjamin Franklin was a luciferian).
    But you didn't address my point: every single revolution in that era was planned and executed by freemasonry. Hence my disbelief that only 9 founding fathers were masons.

    So, Washington has no obelisks and other signature freemasonic monuments? You're delusional.
    Here's a masonic site boasting about Washington's masonic symbolism.
    https://blog.philosophicalsociety.org/2019/11/29/freemasonry-design-washington-dc/

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Are you aware of John Paul II’s Assisi ecumenical meetings and of him infamously kissing the Koran in a mosque?

    No different than kissing lepers. Did you forget that Christ hung out with publicans and prostitutes?

    Also, what do you make of the Abu Dhabi inter-faith center?
    https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/uae-abrahamic-family-house-david-adjaye-intl/index.html

    Let me get this straight. We were able to build a Catholic Church in Muslim Abu Dhabi and this is not a win for Christians how?

    About Washington and his cronies, you’re right we will never know whether they were Christians or Deists or atheists.

    We could go by what they said, their official church affiliations, and even sworn statements. Those are called documentary evidence.

    But you didn’t address my point: every single revolution in that era was planned and executed by freemasonry. Hence my disbelief that only 9 founding fathers were masons.

    So I could either trust pretty straight forward documentary evidence or the rantings of some random guy on the internet. Now it’s quadruple LOL.

    So, Washington has no obelisks and other signature freemasonic monuments? You’re delusional.
    Here’s a masonic site boasting about Washington’s masonic symbolism.
    https://blog.philosophicalsociety.org/2019/11/29/freemasonry-design-washington-dc/

    What. A. Shock. An ornamental city that was largely designed by architects who belonged to a fraternal organization (initially) of builders and masons that was in vogue in the 18th century? Stop the presses!

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Twinkie

    "Did you forget that Christ hung out with publicans and prostitutes?"

    Except the Pope is a man and not God. He cannot break the first commandment. A public display of defection from the faith warrants an excommunication "latae sententiae", like the one that befell to Archbishop Viganò, according to cannon law. Since the XIth century, Roman bishops have fancied themselves above a synod of bishops or an ecumenical council, which was new at the time. The novelty now is that the Pope is above cannon law. Since Vatican II.

    "We were able to build a Catholic Church in Muslim Abu Dhabi and this is not a win for Christians how?"

    Building a communal worship center is not a win. It's apostasy.

    "An ornamental city that was largely designed by architects who belonged to a fraternal organization (initially) of builders and masons that was in vogue in the 18th century? "

    Now you're either being naive or deceptive. Every educated person knows that freemasonry used to be the vanguard of revolutionary movements from the XVIII the to the late XXth century. It was not a fraternal organization of builders and masons. Never was. The members of the first freemasonic lodge as such in 1713 AD London weren't masons or builders: they were businessmen, financiers, barristers or spies for the Crown. They were no more related to ancient cathedral masons or the builder of the Solomon temple than I am. That's all BS. and you know it.

  • @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    Your SOURCE characterized the Ukraine aid spending as a boost to the economy and you did not demur.

    The stocks of, e.g., Stingers we had in inventory worked just fine. There was no need to replace them Same with our older M1 Abrams. If we need to expand US forces we'll wish we had them parked in rows in Arizona rather than existing only as burnt carcasses in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Your SOURCE characterized the Ukraine aid spending as a boost to the economy and you did not demur.

    As I indicated before, I linked to the article in question to demonstrate that most of the Ukraine aid money was, in fact, being spent in the U.S. I neither endorsed nor critiqued the editorial portion of the article. But you constructed several strawmen to argue against, which is intellectually dishonest and disingenuous.

    The stocks of, e.g., Stingers we had in inventory worked just fine. There was no need to replace them Same with our older M1 Abrams.

    I am guessing you know nothing about AFVs. There are substantial and significant capability differences between older M1A1’s and the later variants. See the enhancements of the later variants here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams#Variants_and_upgrades

    If we need to expand US forces we’ll wish we had them parked in rows in Arizona rather than existing only as burnt carcasses in Ukraine.

    Why would we need to expand the U.S. forces? We need to shrink our military, not expand it. Are you hoping for more wars with American young men’s lives at risk?

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    I am reasonably certain that I know a lot more about AFVs than you do, but that is beside the point. If wee are not going to go to war war then we don't need newer tanks at all, and if we do go to war we will need more usable tanks (like the older M1s) than we can produce at a moment's notice. And that's the way our actions in Ukraine, which you apparently support, are heading. You want to simultaneously invite war AND "shrink the military", which is lunacy.

    Just because money is "spent in the US" doesn't mean it isn't being pissed down a rathole.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • Donald Trump appears to have been shot near the right ear at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. He fairly quickly regained his feet, pumped his fist a few times to his supporters, and was helped to walk off by the Secret Service, with blood visible on the right side of his head. He was taken...
  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Harry Baldwin


    If he had let the USSS scuttle him off the stage with his head down the media would have mocked him, they way they mocked him when he let himself be put in a secure area during the Antifa/BLM assault on the White House at the end of May 2020.
     
    Yes. Right now, amazingly, some are praising him (albeit in a qualified manner):

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-assassination-attempt-evan-vucci/679011/

    A Legendary American Photograph

    The photo of Trump after the attempt on his life is a badly needed window into the MAGA mindset.
     


    Donald Trump raises a fist. Blood streaks his face. The sky is high, blue, and empty except for an American flag caught in a hard wind. A Secret Service agent has her arms around his waist. The former president’s mouth is open, in the middle of a snarled shout. We know from video footage that he is yelling “Fight!,” that the crowd is chanting “USA!”

    The photograph, by the Associated Press’s Evan Vucci, became immediately legendary. However you feel about the man at its center, it is undeniably one of the great compositions in U.S. photographic history. Although I am deeply relieved that Trump survived this assassination attempt, I am no fan of his. But the first time I saw the photo, I felt an emotion that I later recognized, with considerable discomfort, as a fluttering of unbidden nationalist zeal. What encapsulates our American ideal more than bloody defiance and stubborn pride that teeters just on the edge of foolishness? No hunkering and no hiding—standing undaunted and undeterred, fist-pumping your way through an attempted murder. It was a moment when Trump supporters’ idea of him—strong, resilient, proud—collided with reality.

    I can’t help but be moved by this remarkable image, taken by a Pulitzer Prize winner who ran toward the danger, camera in hand, rather than away from it. There is a perverse and paradoxical disjunction between Trump the man, who many argue is a threat to American democracy, and this image of Trump, which seems to capture that same democracy in all its pathology, mythos, and, yes, glory. The Compact editor Sohrab Ahmari tweeted that Trump’s instinct—to reflexively gesture in rebellion after being shot at—is “evidence of a truly extraordinary man.” He is more than a little right. Extraordinary, after all, is not so much a moral descriptor as an aesthetic one.

     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Twinkie, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Ministry Of Tongues

    But the first time I saw the photo, I felt an emotion that I later recognized, with considerable discomfort, as a fluttering of unbidden nationalist zeal.

    Unintentional no doubt, but funny and apt nonetheless.

    • Thanks: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Twinkie

    Harper:


    an emotion that I later recognized, with considerable discomfort, as a fluttering of unbidden nationalist zeal
     
    It wasn’t his “proudest wank”.

    People say "Not my proudest wank, " so what is your proudest wank?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/i1d8vg/people_say_not_my_proudest_wank_so_what_is_your/
     


    theappendixofchrist5 • 4 yr. ago

    I was painfully tempted by another woman. I had to clear my head and I knew it. 20 seconds in a bathroom stall. That wank saved me from Chlamydia (I found out later) and saved my marriage.

    Specific-Benefit • 4 yr. ago

    Stay strong champ
     

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  • An op-ed from the Harvard Crimson: A sociologist, Bobo was appointed Dean of Social Science Claudine Gay in 2018. Gay and Bobo then teamed up to get economics department superstar Roland Fryer suspended. E.g., his mentor, Harvard president Claudine Gay, getting fired after her plagiarism was discovered. , sharply critical speech from faculty, prominent ones...
  • @BB753
    @Twinkie

    "Do quote for me from the Syllabus of Errors where it is condemned."

    It's right in the syllabus of errors: #3, 15-18, indifferentism, which is the idea that all religious are fundamentally the same. This error is at the root of ecumenism.
    As for a strict, "infallible" condemnation of ecumenism, we have no less than the 1928 encyclical Mortalium Ánimos, written by Saint Pius IX.
    Since you've no doubt never read an encyclical, I'll give you the link to the Wikipedia article.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mortalium_animos&diffonly=true

    For some reason, what used to be a heresy in 1928 was considered a movement of the Holy Spirit in 1965, with the Council Vatican II document Nostra Aetate. Now you know why I'm no longer a Roman Catholic. Holy Orthodoxy believes the same things the Apostles did. Our Church remains unchanged while Rome has been innovating since the IXth Century, well before the Schism. Still, Rome was still more or less recognizably Christian before 1965. Since then, it's gone totally heretical, modernist and ecumenical.

    "Washington was a vestryman of the Falls Church"
    Again, that's not a proof of his beliefs, just a social activity for the benefit of his image.


    "masons with verifiable records of association"

    There you go. Secret societies did not readily provide lists of their members until it's been safe to do so. And we do know that all revolutions from the French Revolution to the Bolshevik revolution were led by freemasons. Why would the American revolution be any different? It's in plain sight now. Take a tour around Washington DC and watch all the freemasonic monuments. Even masons call America in jest the Masonic States of America.

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    It’s right in the syllabus of errors: #3, 15-18, indifferentism, which is the idea that all religious are fundamentally the same.

    LOL. That is not what ecumenism means in the Catholic context. It’s the idea that the Catholic Church is the universal, “mother” church and that the heretical and schismatic sects should return to its embrace and that the Church will engage in outreach to smooth such a return (e.g. the Catholic Church has Byzantine Rites as well as Anglican Rites).

    Again, that’s not a proof of his beliefs, just a social activity for the benefit of his image.

    But you know what was in his heart, right? Double LOL.

    There you go. Secret societies did not readily provide lists of their members until it’s been safe to do so.

    That’s a circular, unfalsifiable argument. E.g. “All the Founding Fathers were secret Voodoo society members.” Oh, yeah? Where is your evidence? There is zero record of any such association. “Well, these were secret societies, so there is no evidence and you’ll just have to take my word for it.” Triple LOL.

    Read the Wikipedia link about Washington. It provides a wealth of testimony and records – some conflicting – from various sources about Washington’s religious life. Yes, he seemed to have skipped going to church on some Sundays and instead socialized and played cards occasionally. Yes, he seemed to have attended church service scrupulously when in official capacity to visit cities (he’s gotta play the part as the Father of the nation, right?). But his kin also attested to his daily, private (morning) devotions.

    Take a tour around Washington DC and watch all the freemasonic monuments. Even masons call America in jest the Masonic States of America.

    I worked on the Hill at one point. And you’ve been watching too many movies or reading books on the occult.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Twinkie

    That is not what ecumenism means in the Catholic context. "

    The Catholic context is what the RC Church actually says and does. Are you aware of John Paul II's Assisi ecumenical meetings and of him infamously kissing the Koran in a mosque? Every Pope since JPII , Ratzinger included, has prayed in synagogues and mosques jointly with Muslim clerics facing Mecca. Also, what do you make of the Abu Dhabi inter-faith center?
    https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/uae-abrahamic-family-house-david-adjaye-intl/index.html
    How long have you been a Roman Catholic? It looks as if you joined the Church like one joins the Rotary club.

    About Washington and his cronies, you're right we will never know whether they were Christians or Deists or atheists. ( Though we do know Benjamin Franklin was a luciferian).
    But you didn't address my point: every single revolution in that era was planned and executed by freemasonry. Hence my disbelief that only 9 founding fathers were masons.

    So, Washington has no obelisks and other signature freemasonic monuments? You're delusional.
    Here's a masonic site boasting about Washington's masonic symbolism.
    https://blog.philosophicalsociety.org/2019/11/29/freemasonry-design-washington-dc/

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    , @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    In February 1800, Thomas Jefferson wrote in his journal this notation about Washington: "Gouverneur Morris, who pretended to be in his secrets and believed himself to be so, has often told me that Genl. Washington believed no more of that system [Christianity] than he himself did."

    On one occasion, Christian chaplains in the army urged Washington to expel a Universalist chaplain who denied the existence of hell. But Washington refused.

    Historian Barry Schwartz writes: "George Washington's practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian. He repeatedly declined the church's sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary. Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative."

    Paul F. Bolles Jr. states in his anthology on Washington, "There is no mention of Jesus Christ anywhere in his extensive correspondence."

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  • @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    To repeat, if you don't want to be called out for being deceptive don't be deceptive. The point of your argument was that spending the money was less wasteful than it appeared because the US was sending old stock to Ukraine and upgrading the US inventory. But in fact the US is also sending the latest versions of weapons and replacing them in inventory with other copies of the latest versions of weapons. So you were being deceptive. Stop.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    The point of your argument was that spending the money was less wasteful than it appeared because the US was sending old stock to Ukraine and upgrading the US inventory.

    This is what actually happened. For example, the Stinger missiles in the U.S. inventory have parts that are no longer produced, so Raytheon is re-starting the a new production line with new, updated components.

    But in fact the US is also sending the latest versions of weapons and replacing them in inventory with other copies of the latest versions of weapons. So you were being deceptive. Stop.

    In your desire to play some sort of a gotcha game, you don’t seem to understand the argument (or are going out of your way to be intentionally obtuse). First of all, most of the weapons sent to Ukraine have not been “the latest version” (e.g. M1 Abrams, FIM-92 Stingers, etc.) but even those that had been the latest variants have been old – meaning they were depreciating stocks. Weapons and munitions have expiration dates (e.g. electronic components degrade over time). These modern systems aren’t like some sort of World War II ammunition that have been wrapped and preserved in grease that will still fire 50 years later (though it might corrode your barrel).

    The overall point remains that the U.S. aid has been overestimated by assigning to nominal values to the transferred kits when their actual values are considerably less.

    And you still haven’t shown where I characterized the Ukraine aid spending as “boost to the economy.”

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    Your SOURCE characterized the Ukraine aid spending as a boost to the economy and you did not demur.

    The stocks of, e.g., Stingers we had in inventory worked just fine. There was no need to replace them Same with our older M1 Abrams. If we need to expand US forces we'll wish we had them parked in rows in Arizona rather than existing only as burnt carcasses in Ukraine.

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  • @BB753
    @Twinkie

    So, you approve of ecumenism. Don't you realize that ecumenism was a condemned proposition as late as 1925?

    Here's the the list of condemned propositions, that is, heresies, by Pope Pius IX. If Popes are infallible in matters of morals and dogma, how come no modern Catholic, including the clergy, abide by these condemnations?
    Take a look, this is what you were supposed to hold as heresies prior to 1965. I guess the Holy Spirit changed his mind.

    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/syllabus-of-errors-9048

    Replies: @Twinkie

    So, you approve of ecumenism. Don’t you realize that ecumenism was a condemned proposition as late as 1925?

    You don’t know what ecumenism actually means, do you? Do quote for me from the Syllabus of Errors where it is condemned.

    You might try a little reading: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/is-ecumenism-a-heresy

    Which goes to show that Washington was not a Christian in any way, just like most freemasons.

    Washington was a vestryman of the Falls Church (after which Fall Church, VA is named).

    Also, you previously asserted that “most” Founding Fathers were Freemasons, which I corrected: https://www.unz.com/isteve/france-surges-to-right-in-eu-election/#comment-6614622

    Of the 56 men that signed the Declaration of Independence, it appears that only nine were Freemasons, or masons with verifiable records of association.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Twinkie

    "Do quote for me from the Syllabus of Errors where it is condemned."

    It's right in the syllabus of errors: #3, 15-18, indifferentism, which is the idea that all religious are fundamentally the same. This error is at the root of ecumenism.
    As for a strict, "infallible" condemnation of ecumenism, we have no less than the 1928 encyclical Mortalium Ánimos, written by Saint Pius IX.
    Since you've no doubt never read an encyclical, I'll give you the link to the Wikipedia article.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mortalium_animos&diffonly=true

    For some reason, what used to be a heresy in 1928 was considered a movement of the Holy Spirit in 1965, with the Council Vatican II document Nostra Aetate. Now you know why I'm no longer a Roman Catholic. Holy Orthodoxy believes the same things the Apostles did. Our Church remains unchanged while Rome has been innovating since the IXth Century, well before the Schism. Still, Rome was still more or less recognizably Christian before 1965. Since then, it's gone totally heretical, modernist and ecumenical.

    "Washington was a vestryman of the Falls Church"
    Again, that's not a proof of his beliefs, just a social activity for the benefit of his image.


    "masons with verifiable records of association"

    There you go. Secret societies did not readily provide lists of their members until it's been safe to do so. And we do know that all revolutions from the French Revolution to the Bolshevik revolution were led by freemasons. Why would the American revolution be any different? It's in plain sight now. Take a tour around Washington DC and watch all the freemasonic monuments. Even masons call America in jest the Masonic States of America.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Mark G.
    @Twinkie

    George Washington expressed little preference as to the religion practiced by the Mount Vernon workforce. Writing in March of 1784, Washington noted: "If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mahometans [Mohammedans/Muslims], Jews, or Christians of any Sect, or they may be Atheists."

    Replies: @BB753, @Twinkie

    George Washington expressed little preference as to the religion practiced by the Mount Vernon workforce. Writing in March of 1784, Washington noted: “If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mahometans [Mohammedans/Muslims], Jews, or Christians of any Sect, or they may be Atheists.”

    Gee, what a surprise. A man who owned chattel slaves – human beings as property – didn’t care who did the work at his mansion. Are you serious?

    George Washington was a great man, but was also a politician who evinced a certain public facade. There are disputed accounts of his religious practices – he often went to church service in public or when visiting cities, but was also said to have been given to dancing and card-playing on Sundays instead of going to worship in private. He also was a vestryman of his parish church for many years (I’ve been to the church in question – the Falls Church in Falls Church, VA), yet his attendance and partaking of Communion were said to have been spotty. Yet others – some of his kin – asserted that he was devout and, indeed, engaged in Christian devotions every morning.

    Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of the various accounts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_George_Washington

    It is notable that he was, indeed, a Freemason – one of the few Founding Fathers who was a verifiable member of a lodge:

    Washington was an officer in the Freemasons, an organization which, at the time Washington lived, required that its members “will never be a stupid Atheist nor an irreligious Libertine” [Boldface mine.]

  • @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie


    I don’t understand your “objection” here.
     
    Really? I thought I stated it clearly enough. I already quoted you saying,

    Again, we are giving Ukraine our old equipment and with the Ukraine funding buying new, up-to-date kits for our own military (and also re-starting certain production lines and infrastructure for equipment which had been neglected, e.g. Stinger missiles, artillery shells, etc.)
     
    This says (a) We are sending Ukraine our old equipment, and (b) we are buying ourselves new, up-to-date (different from our "old" equipment in being that, otherwise why mention it?) equipment, and (c) we are building US infrastructure. There's nothing there about (d) sending Ukraine up-to-date equipment that we didn't need at all to replace, is there?. But we are. The article says, e.g.,

    ...the Pentagon signed a $624.6 million contract last year to build Stinger missiles in Tucson, to replace about 1,400 sent to Ukraine.
     
    These 1,400 weren't obsolete old out-of-date Stingers. They were unused, still in the manufacturer's packing crates new-not-refurbished Stingers. You were trying to imply that we got a benefit from replacing "old" Stingers with "new" ones, so that their cost wasn't just piss-money-down the-drain for the US taxpayer but, no, it WAS just piss-money-down the-drain.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Almost all of the weapons already sent to Ukraine have been old equipment in storage. Yes, going forward some of the weapons produced with Ukraine aid money will be sent to Ukraine, but much of them will replace the old stock already sent.

    Also, “obsolete” is the word you used upthread to mischaracterize what I wrote. Old stock kits can be the latest variants, but frequently aren’t (e.g. M1 Abrams that were gifted to Ukraine). Most weapons and munitions have “depreciation” even if they are the latest variants.

    To repeat:

    None of this has to do with the fact that you used strawmen and false characterizations of what I wrote, e.g. “boost to the economy,” “approving,” etc. all the while accusing me of being deceptive.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie

    To repeat, if you don't want to be called out for being deceptive don't be deceptive. The point of your argument was that spending the money was less wasteful than it appeared because the US was sending old stock to Ukraine and upgrading the US inventory. But in fact the US is also sending the latest versions of weapons and replacing them in inventory with other copies of the latest versions of weapons. So you were being deceptive. Stop.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie


    Again, we are giving Ukraine our old equipment and with the Ukraine funding buying new, up-to-date kits for our own military (and also re-starting certain production lines and infrastructure for equipment which had been neglected, e.g. Stinger missiles, artillery shells, etc.)
     
    But if I follow the link which you supplied to support “the money will stay in the USA” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-BOOST/) I read,

    Funds that lawmakers approve to arm Ukraine are not going directly to Ukraine but are being used stateside to build new weapons or to replace weapons sent to Kyiv from U.S. stockpiles.
     
    There's a difference. The WaPo version doesn't say "we are giving Ukraine our old equipment". And, reading further, it turns out that we are ALSO giving Ukraine lots of new new and NON-obsolete equipment. You left that out.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    But if I follow the link which you supplied to support “the money will stay in the USA” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-BOOST/) I read,

    I don’t understand your “objection” here. I wrote:

    we are giving Ukraine our old equipment and with the Ukraine funding buying new, up-to-date kits for our own military

    The article states:

    Funds that lawmakers approve to arm Ukraine are not going directly to Ukraine but are being used stateside to build new weapons or to replace weapons sent to Kyiv from U.S. stockpiles.

    There’s a difference. The WaPo version doesn’t say “we are giving Ukraine our old equipment”.

    What do you think “used stateside to build new weapons or replace weapons sent to Kyiv from U.S. stockpiles” means?

    we are ALSO giving Ukraine lots of new new and NON-obsolete equipment. You left that out.

    Okay, fine enough. But I also provided an official DoD list of weapons supplied to Ukraine so far in the same comment: https://media.defense.gov/2024/Apr/24/2003448840/-1/-1/1/20240424_UKRAINE_FACT_SHEET.PDF

    I also stated in the same comment:

    and also re-starting certain production lines and infrastructure for equipment which had been neglected, e.g. Stinger missiles, artillery shells, etc.

    None of this has to do with the fact that you used strawmen and false characterizations of what I wrote, e.g. “boost to the economy,” “approving,” etc. all the while accusing me of being deceptive.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Twinkie


    I don’t understand your “objection” here.
     
    Really? I thought I stated it clearly enough. I already quoted you saying,

    Again, we are giving Ukraine our old equipment and with the Ukraine funding buying new, up-to-date kits for our own military (and also re-starting certain production lines and infrastructure for equipment which had been neglected, e.g. Stinger missiles, artillery shells, etc.)
     
    This says (a) We are sending Ukraine our old equipment, and (b) we are buying ourselves new, up-to-date (different from our "old" equipment in being that, otherwise why mention it?) equipment, and (c) we are building US infrastructure. There's nothing there about (d) sending Ukraine up-to-date equipment that we didn't need at all to replace, is there?. But we are. The article says, e.g.,

    ...the Pentagon signed a $624.6 million contract last year to build Stinger missiles in Tucson, to replace about 1,400 sent to Ukraine.
     
    These 1,400 weren't obsolete old out-of-date Stingers. They were unused, still in the manufacturer's packing crates new-not-refurbished Stingers. You were trying to imply that we got a benefit from replacing "old" Stingers with "new" ones, so that their cost wasn't just piss-money-down the-drain for the US taxpayer but, no, it WAS just piss-money-down the-drain.

    Replies: @Twinkie