RSSHad she come to Poland she wouldn’t got shanked by some low IQ black career criminal.
No, but on the other hand, every time she wanted a lightbulb changed, she would have had to have climbed up onto a step-ladder and held it while 60 of you turned the house…
OK, now let’s not pretend that every woman that you are related to from your grandma to your daughters and neices don’t get a little panty moisture watching this guy…
SYW;
That’s awful. I have never even HEARD of an overseaser so blatant that she would lay it on the line to an inc… er young man, they were going to do the marriage and she was not going to put out. Usually they try to trap you with a few pets of the kitty!
I now have a whole new level of appreciation for your difficulties in life.
So, for the record, are you telling me that you wouldn’t have put your life on the line the second you saw that young man brandishing a knife in the vicinity of that beautiful young lady?
Old Sport, do you want to live FOREVER?
Hey, shooting right-wing influencers is the latest Albino Ape sport.
I don’t know about you but I’m a little tired of football and basketball also.
You do own a gun, right?
Start the executions, don’t wait for someone else.
Given the awesomeness of US, Why are the following great intellects remaining silent about the vibrant condition of our country, and its glorious future?:
It’s getting to the point where I can’t tell satire from honest commentary around here.
So you were authorized to clean pots and scrub sinks at The Pentagon.
Well my job took a little bit more math, an advanced degree, supervision of a few people, passing through three checkpoints daily, and the flew me to a few countries.
…but yeah, in so many words.
I have good news and bad news for you, Big Chief.
The good news is, I would rate you as one of the more intelligent posters here on this site.
The bad news is, the bar really ain’t all that high.
PS: You just answered the O/P’s question pretty well.
Thank you greatly, Old Sport.
Uhhh, Mr. Daltrey was singing about a chick, as almost all young men rock singers* did.
Yes, “her” name was “Lucy Furr”.
ALL platinum selling love songs are written about demons, because it is demons who give them the lyrics.
Demons and their enslaved artists have a symbiotic/masochistic relationship, until it ends. That’s where the “seduction and abandonment” aspect of these songs come in. If you read the lyrics it’s actually pretty simple.
Did you notice there were no “good nigras” on the train to help that poor lady.
Well, I mean, there were no good Honkees either, and yes, you would have s- your pants.
The female narrator said that more White Americans have died in the last 50 years from Black on White murder than the number of Americans killed WWI.
118,000 Americans died in WW1. I don’t think Math is your subject.
How many women will see that video and realize they need to follow the advice of Scott Adams?
About 10% as many as the women who get aroused watching 6’8 black men run around in shorts.
Niggresses don't belong anywhere near a courtroom except as defendants or to mop up the place after a day of trials. The only business a niggress has being anywhere near a judge's bench is to dust it off.Replies: @follyofwar, @Truth
Magistrate Teresa Stokes
Maybe, but the only business you have near one is when the Bailiff says; “will the defendant please rise…”
So he stormed off the set in the middle of programming and took the bother guy with him because…
The guy insinuated that he was wearing an ugly suit?
OK, we’ve entered the mirror funhouse..
So did you, that’s why you keep commenting on these threads.
Of course you wouldn’t as you clearly never had a security clearance or any military service,
My security clearance expired in 2022.
WRONG. I did not even watch it.
That explains it.
Yeah, and not only that, but this old world keeps spinning round, it's a wonder tall trees ain't laying down...
How can they have a “space walk” when ISS is traveling with a speed of 17500 mph?
Yeah, and not only that, but this old world keeps spinning round, it’s a wonder tall trees ain’t laying down…
I just covered that.
It was intentional mockery of you…. FOOL!
The interesting question here is, “well why are they going to such great lengths to mock me now?”
The world runs on intentional mockery of the Proles. Please change your name to Winston Smith. When you know what you are listening to, the lyrics are quite comical.
Video Link(Hint; “I can see for miles because the horizon is flat. Extra credit; whom are they talking to?).
Video Link (who sees the world spinning ’round? That’s right, a FOOL.)
I scanned all 100 or so pages of government claptrap and I am not sure I get the point. The wrestling thing, as well, would make little sense to anyone not familiar with the greater picture as to how things work.
Vince McMahon is a billionaire businessman, https://www.forbes.com/profile/vincent-mcmahon/
pretending to be a simple-minded meathead. One thing all billionaires have in common is that they are connected, either by blood, or fraternity, and usually both. If they were not connected, those who were connected would simply conspire to take their money.
Maybe you misunderstood what he said, and assumed he said something else. That would be understandable, certainly at least 99.9 percent of the 15,000 in the building and the 2,000,000 or so watching at home did.
He said that the chances of the event happening were so slim, that if it were to happen, “the earth would spin on its axis.” Wait a minute; doesn’t the earth spin on its axis now?
OK, so the dumb wrassler’ made a mistake, right? Well, that makes no sense again, as he doubled down by telling you that “that’s not going to happen though, and only fools believe in miracles.” (Yes, Old Sport, he is calling you a fool).
Vince McMahon is a generational Luciferian, that’s why he is so rich, and has known the falsehoods behind what you consider self-evident since he was born. They have powers, assistance and abilities that you cannot really fathom*
The second video that you described as “sketchy”, may I ask why? They have established this to be a zero-gravity environment, where you have read for years, things float. No such thing, it doesn’t exist. Again, “only fools believe in miracles” as it was not a mistake by the slavemasters in this case, letting those objects hit the floor. It was intentional mockery of you…. FOOL!
The interesting question here is, “well why are they going to such great lengths to mock me now?”
….And that’s a subject for another post.
(* I know, you don’t believe it, well this man is SEVENTY-SEVEN years old. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyO0NR8m0uU
Video Link)
How can they have a “space walk” when ISS is travelling with a speed of 17500 mph?
Yes, or dock with other ships, or do repairs.
NASA, by the way also means “deception” in Hebrew.
But it may already be too late. If you believe in ‘breakaway civilizations’ or ‘secret space programs’ then there are already colonies of ‘chosen humans’ on Mars, the Moon, even in deep space.
Now that one, I SERIOUSLY doubt.
You were a male model too?
Shoot we do have something in common.
You can give a typical 60’ish IQ negro a nice job thanks to affirmative action screwing a high IQ White person out of the position.
…Or, if he’s a male you can just give him a nice job screwing a high-IQ white person IN the position.
…Well somebody’s been reading the book of Enoch.
You have to buy, the President cost me my AA job.
I’m just a straight arrow Catholic boy.
Not if you’re going to let you co workers make sexual innuendo about your wife.
It might be over your head, but the guy was implying that the football player’s wife called to tell him the suit was ugly,
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Watson should’ve kicked Burns’ ass for that insulting comment.
So your Caucasian brother above would have kicked someone’s ass for saying that his suit was ugly?
That makes all the sense in the world.
Old Sport, you’re on this site a lot. You say that you are a machinery guy, and I believe you. But logical thought, and reading and writing just ain’t your thing.
What are you getting pissy about? You said guys insulting your wife were “just jokes” and you were fine with it.
Niggers are shit.
Are you still dating kikes? If so, your above statement will not buy you even a minor reprieve on TUR.
Do you still drive a Model-T?
Churn your own butter?
Speak Middle English?
Tell time by a sun dial.
Great. End of discussion.
Grab your bowie knife and start in the next township!
…Oh, wait, you meant someone else is going to do it?
It don’t hurt me, I don’t want to suck either one of their rods. You usually settle for gold, silver or bronze though.
What in the holy hell are you disagreeing with? Would you stick up for your wife or wouldn’t you?
Don’t tell me I can answer that; you would have guffawed for about 5 minutes tried a retort back about his wife because; “hey what the hell we’re going to be swapping in a couple of months after the Christmas party anyway…”
Blacks are good at basketball, for sure, but their superiority came about by changing the rules to accommodate black physiology. Years ago the NBA’s refs met to consider ways to control blacks’ flagrant traveling with the ball, but decided it was hopeless because if they started calling it, the game would take hours more to play. How anyone can watch that jukin’ and jivin’ style of dribbling that requires turning the ball over on nearly every bounce eludes me
You’re right, Old Sport. Worst decision EVER! Just imagine how many TRILLIONS of fans and Yankee dollars worldwide, the white man’s game would have eartned today, imagine the excitement generated and the social influence the would have been had, had those Gash-dang KNEE-GROWS not screwed it up…

Again Old Sport, you made an emotional comment without watching the original source material. Kinda like a broad does…

How do I get to fuck the white girls?
The question is, since you know her; do you think she slept alone for a year, did she succumb to the Big Bamboo, or start porking the 60 year old director?
I remember that picture also.

When your homies on the construction site sit around and joke around about how they boned Richies wife, do you take part in the merriment.
“Yeah, T-Bone, you boned my wife, was it good? HAHA, can’t even get her to bone me.”
Is the Problem White People or Black People?
I refuse to read articles that see issues in black and white with no gray areas.
Oh yeah, he really came out HARD against the Kikes with that one. I hear the JDL is on the way to his house right now. HAHAHA!
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*Ben Watson is from the South (Norfolk, VA), has one marriage to his college sweetheart (black woman), has 7 kids, and is a pro-life devout Christian.
Yeah, but don’t let Benjie’s genius side fool yo’ Azz…

It’s really simple. The northern races of people, over tens of thousands of years, had most of the unstable/dumb/low IQ weeded out of their gene pool.
You’re a Newbie. Stick around Unz.com for a while…
If we’re told the IQ gap is 15 points, that means it’s really 30 points.
Maybe.
But between you and the Average Black American, it’s more like -3.9
It’s not a pro White web site. No, it is yet another scam perpetrated by a wealthy, and well-connected Jew (and Ronnie, God-bless your), where I can come to ONE PLACE and receive every story on ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT that ANY black person in the world has done, within an hour of having done it.
The MAJORITY of commentary here is about blacks, but there is also a good minority (I would guess 40%) of other stuff, war, politics, economics sports) that make it a good, worthy news site.
So there it is.
Great. Full Stop. Your original point is invalid.
Yes I have seen White children wearing sports shirts of black sportsball entertainers
Again, idiocy. They pay lots of local taxes and hire locals, electricians, plumbers, pool men, gardeners, etc. That's doing plenty. Do you want LeBron to organize a bake sale?
its also very sad to see considering most of the highly paid sportsballers do nothing for the community
Do you know these people, or do you just spend your life listening to Michael Weiner on the radio? Great, when you get to meet a few of them, report back.
Most of the black sportsballers are racist to Whites
Do you want your children attening LeBron's school. Admission is held by lottery so put in an application.
We see that in Labrons school and in the “kneeling” on the field.
And you're still alive? Have your eyes been gouged out? Have your arms been sawed off? Great stop whining.Replies: @Guest Perfect, @Guest Perfect
I know this from being a White minority in a black community and school.
Lebron’s school is unable to teach math. Or the students are unable to learn it. I would not put my child in a black school.
Even very wealthy blacks seem to resent Whites for the history in the US.
I don’t care what you think of me. I’m a racist and not afraid to admit it. You can get mad but it won’t change that.
Blacks and Whites are prevented from ever living peaceable together. Even if It were peaceable I would be against it. I don’t like them, they don’t like me. What’s so hard to understand about that?
Race is in our face daily, on websites, on TV, in schools, on websites it goes on and on. That should tell you that this is a problem. If you don’t think so that’s fine. Apparently you are in the majority in that thinking, go with the herd if you want.
The fact that we had this conversation proves that race is a problem in this country. Race will always be an issue when races are forced together.
You will never change my mind and I don’t care about changing yours.
Blacks are a problem in every White country they are in. blacks are just problems in general.
You’re in Slavery now, Old Sport. Don’t believe me?
Try getting on an airplane, registering a car, buying a home, fishing, hunting, working, taking out a loan, getting married, adding onto your home, digging for minerals, cutting down a tree for firewood, burying a loved one, rejecting vaccination for your children, not paying your unconstitutional taxes, etc., etc., etc., without cho’ Massa permission.
Oh, and the reason they “ended slavery” in 1864 (truly it was mostly ended 100 years later with the Civil Rights Act, and even then*…) was that they wanted a distraction to take Honkees into slavery, please read paragraph #2 again, and the brilliant gentlemen here and on other similar “white nationalist” (white simpleton) websites are conscious enough to keep that distraction alive and well.
Congrats.
Givvey, twenty-six?
You know there are THOUSANDS OF THESE A MONTH, you are really getting lazy. And a man killed by his son? AI Photos? Two dumb kids playing with a gun? Traffic accdidents?
Bro, you can do better. I’m starting to think you might be one of those… small hats, like your boss.
Yes.
And then you can all feast upon the butterscotch-flavored gumdrops that you are going to mandate falling from the sky.
High-level science in this post.
OK, Zelenski is a bastard, Trump is a Bastard, and Putin is a Wonderful Human Being? Great. And they are all Honkees and the murder lots of other Honkees. And don’t seem to have much remorse about it.
And that was the original point.
Yes I have seen White children wearing sports shirts of black sportsball entertainers
Great. Full Stop. Your original point is invalid.
its also very sad to see considering most of the highly paid sportsballers do nothing for the community
Again, idiocy. They pay lots of local taxes and hire locals, electricians, plumbers, pool men, gardeners, etc. That’s doing plenty. Do you want LeBron to organize a bake sale?
Most of the black sportsballers are racist to Whites
Do you know these people, or do you just spend your life listening to Michael Weiner on the radio? Great, when you get to meet a few of them, report back.
We see that in Labrons school and in the “kneeling” on the field.
Do you want your children attening LeBron’s school. Admission is held by lottery so put in an application.
What was “kneeling” on the field meant to symbolize? Ok, again, do some research.
I know this from being a White minority in a black community and school.
And you’re still alive? Have your eyes been gouged out? Have your arms been sawed off? Great stop whining.
I wouldn’t “like” to do anything, and nobody on the planet agrees that this is the ancestral homeland of whites, so why not return. Then you can kick everyone out, and no one can argue about it.
White children are rarely inspired or can look up to a black teacher, policeman or anything else. Just as black children are rarely inspired by Whites
You’ve never seen a white person wearing a Michael Jordan jersey? You don’t think any black men voted for Bill Clinton?
Great, myth dispelled.
If your whole life is about color, yes, I suppose you are true, but mine isn’t, and in my EXTREMELY HUMBLE opinion, one who’s whole life is about color is… a bit of a moron. No offense, that’s just my opinion.
There are black people I like and respect, and black people that I do not. Same with whites and everyone else. I am a man of God, or, at least I try to be and I20 do not believe that the one and only true God, who sent his son to die for your sins, makes mistakes. If that is the case, then there is a place for everyone.
It is white people who INVENTED black white relationships, interracial dating, etc. If white people want to undo them, then I Feel that the only fair solution would be to return en masse, all 200 million of you to your ancerstral homeland across the Atlantic. Then if you would like to kick some people out, I feel that’s fine.
Until 1945 and the American world police, before there were any blacks in Europe, there was a war every 20 years. So the problem is with people, not black people, not white people, people. It is the more, well, intellectually challenged of us that do not understand this.
Yes, people are mean to each other, and different, that’s life. Get over it.

I must agree with you. Whites want to look good and righteous.
There is only one way Whites get a homeland and that would be very ugly and extremely racist.
Two ways.
The second way wouldn’t.
They were stopping in Portuguese and Dutch COLONIES to re-stock. The Russians didn’t have colonies, Nor did they have an impressive shipbuilding record, and I doubt they stopped in Buenos Aires to hunt game.There was no Panama Canal at this time. Leaving from the west you would have to go around Argentina.
Not saying that it’s impossible, I am saying that you cannot believe everything you read.
The only long term answer is employment. These people are intelligent enough to work on the simpler manufactured products (forks, spoons, Tupperware, pots & pans, shoes, clothing, shovels,
Henry Ford, is that you? I though you died, Oh, 80 years ago…
Quick math lesson for the innumerate.
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2025/august/Fact-Sheet-2025-Crime-Decline.html
No nonWhite should be in any position of importance or power where Whites are below them.
That would be difficult with you since you’re a moron.
LOL, that is a new one on me.
As many people have stated here before, The US does not have a race problem, the US has a problem race.Replies: @Truth, @AR in Illinois
In a sentence: The US and the world for that matter does NOT have a crime problem…they have a black African problem!
Oh, I don’t know, I get along pretty well with most of you. There are a few of you… But I don’t paint with a broad brush.
This article needs to be sent to every Ukrainian in the world. If the Yank-Brit Empire, best described as Anglo-Zionist Empire, gets its way in your homeland, they will flood it with Bantu Negroes and brown Mohammedans after they make certain Jews own 90% or more of it.
Yes, SO DIE AT THE HANDS OF PUTIN’S BOMBS NOW!
Oh I don’t know, I think you should fly into Ukraine with a translator and tell her village that their countrymen who died in the war died so much more honorable deaths than she did.
From Russia to New York, and back, on a Wooden Ship?
That’s a hell of a journey.
Do you have these sorts of random thoughts often? About this type of scenario?
Yes Old Sport. You will find all kinds of stupid people making all kinds of stupid claims on the internet.
So what did this guy get wrong?
https://professorbuzzkill.com/2025/03/11/the-irish-slaves-myth-2025-encore/
Jefferson’s mistress Sally Hemings was a quadroon, not a mulatto
Yup Morgue. Her Mother was a mulatto when Jefferson’s father in law had sex with her (yeah, she was…uh… his wife’s sister).
And Her mother was an Africana when some other horny, rich honkee relative of theirs had sex with her.
Why would they h-h-have lighter skin?I didn't make that quote but they did have lighter skin. The first settlement was in the 1820s which was when the slaves would have been mixed. Thomas Jefferson was having sex with his mulatto slave then. The early Liberian leaders were disproportionately mulatto and had been selected by Whites. But the class system the Liberians created wasn't purely based on skin. It was based on the language and culture brought by American Blacks. They viewed themselves as separate from and above the natives. https://cdn.britannica.com/27/78427-050-C24B83C9/cabinet-Liberian.jpgAnd why would they have more education when teaching them to read was illegal?Maybe read about Liberia before asking questions?Replies: @Truth
I’ve read that too. The american slaves had lighter skin than the natives
Whole lotta paper back club members in that picture.
I’ve read that too. The american slaves had lighter skin than the natives and more education so they treated the natives like dirt. They were racist.They also passed a bunch of their own Jim Crow laws. Like only upper class ex-American slaves can own land. You can't make this shit up. Too funny. But of course if you take a 101 course on Africa you won't hear any of this. The establishment also doesn't like the subject of Charles Taylor. You will hear about how the White man dun ruined Wakanda with his dark heart of greed and hatred. Once the White man put his foot on Africa the entire place was ruined. Damn. Troof is well aware that the establishment teaches a completely White guilt version of African history. Conservative Christians aren't much better. They allow the argument that evil Whites ruined Africa through slavery and colonialism but Christianity 'n minimal government will fix it. Another area where our conservatives allow White men to be the devil for the sake of the establishment narrative. Most African slavery was actually conducted by Arabs but that is left out of American high school history books.Replies: @Truth
“Definitely CAN NOT let them hear about how those new Liberians created a class system where they were the superiors of the natives. ”
I’ve read that too. The american slaves had lighter skin than the natives
-wh-wh-whut?!?!?
Why would they h-h-have lighter skin?
And why would they have more education when teaching them to read was illegal?
Why would they h-h-have lighter skin?I didn't make that quote but they did have lighter skin. The first settlement was in the 1820s which was when the slaves would have been mixed. Thomas Jefferson was having sex with his mulatto slave then. The early Liberian leaders were disproportionately mulatto and had been selected by Whites. But the class system the Liberians created wasn't purely based on skin. It was based on the language and culture brought by American Blacks. They viewed themselves as separate from and above the natives. https://cdn.britannica.com/27/78427-050-C24B83C9/cabinet-Liberian.jpgAnd why would they have more education when teaching them to read was illegal?Maybe read about Liberia before asking questions?Replies: @Truth
I’ve read that too. The american slaves had lighter skin than the natives
Which part do you take offense with; the assumption that because this happened to her she was cavorting with blacks, or the that such behavior is wrong, and there is a toll to be paid for it?
I would estimate 60/40.
Old Sport, he has been here for years, and has tested his theory in action multiple times, and I have to say, there is something to it.
What about the Honkees who spend hours and hours and hours of their lives whining about their predicament on the internet without ever raising a rifle. When do they meet their just deserts?
Replies: @Truth
As legal scholar James Ostrowski has pointed out, if states have the right to protect themselves by force from federal tyranny, as Madison stated, then surely they would also have the right to do so by means of peaceful secession (Keep in mind that in 1861 no one—especially not Lincoln— was arguing that the federal government was launching an invasion of the South for the purpose of ending slavery.)Ostrowski presents an ingenious thought experiment that illustrates the absurdity of the notion that Lincoln's suppression of the Southern secession (not the secession itself) was constitutional. In order for such acts to have been agreed upon by the attendees of the constitutional convention, which barely ratified the Constitution as it was, they would have had to have agreed to the following stipulations:1. No state may ever secede from the Union for any reason.2. If any state attempts to secede, the federal government shall invade such a state with sufficient military force to suppress the secession3. The federal government may require all states to raise militias to be used to suppress the seceding state (or states).4. After suppressing the secession, the federal government may rule by martial law until such time as the state accepts permanent federal supremacy (as occurred during “Reconstruction”).5. After the secession is suppressed, the federal government may force the states to adopt new state constitutions imposed upon them by federal military authorities (as also occurred during “Reconstruction”).6. The president may, on his own authority and without consulting any other branch of government, suspend the Bill of Rights and the writ of habeas corpus (as Lincoln did in the first months of his presidency).This, Ostrowski says, is a fair summary of what Lincoln said the Constitution had to say about secession, and Ostrowski is right. It is inconceivable that such amendments would ever have had the remotest possibility of being adopted by the constitutional convention.
As the great Pat Dye once said; “hindsight is 50/50.”
Always.
As the great Pat Dye once said; “hindsight is 50/50.”
My Friend, exactly how long do you expect me to have a theoretical debate with you over a subject that was settled ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS AGO? Is our back-and-forth going to change anything? This subject has been argued a nauseam since the 19th century by hundreds of constitutional lawyers who are smarter than you… including 3 or 4 who are smarter than me.
The bottom line is that, The matter was decided by the way the white man tends to decide matters, but killing hundreds of thousands of people… but it is decided.
And as I wrote above, you now understand why black people are still bellyaching about slavery. Good for you, that’s a big one.
We are one nation (indivisible, under God… blah…blah….blah).
Hungie” meaning Hungarian. It came from steel mills in Pittsburgh after large scale Eastern European immigration. It was a blanket term used by the WASPS and first-world immigrants for the EEs, E.g.: “Hey Hungie, move that pile of rivets!”
The black workers figured “hey, they all look the same to me” and the term “honkee” began.
I did not look this up, nor consult A.I, I have known this for years.
The war is over, “you” got your azzez kicked, “we” won.
Get over it, move on. For how many years are you going to complain about Massa raping your great grandmother on the plantation? I had nothing to do with that, nor am I related to anyone who did (wink).
No where was there a clause they the could leave, because the Constitution was meant to stand in perpetuity.
It's a problem with the whole issue of self-rule.
the Constitution was meant to stand in perpetuity.
If the union was meant to stand in perpetuity as is, it would have been added to the constitution - think of all the compromises that were need to form the Republic - states being yoked together indefinitely wasn't added.
No where was there a clause they the could leave, because the Constitution was meant to stand in perpetuity.
Replies: @Truth
As legal scholar James Ostrowski has pointed out, if states have the right to protect themselves by force from federal tyranny, as Madison stated, then surely they would also have the right to do so by means of peaceful secession (Keep in mind that in 1861 no one—especially not Lincoln— was arguing that the federal government was launching an invasion of the South for the purpose of ending slavery.)Ostrowski presents an ingenious thought experiment that illustrates the absurdity of the notion that Lincoln's suppression of the Southern secession (not the secession itself) was constitutional. In order for such acts to have been agreed upon by the attendees of the constitutional convention, which barely ratified the Constitution as it was, they would have had to have agreed to the following stipulations:1. No state may ever secede from the Union for any reason.2. If any state attempts to secede, the federal government shall invade such a state with sufficient military force to suppress the secession3. The federal government may require all states to raise militias to be used to suppress the seceding state (or states).4. After suppressing the secession, the federal government may rule by martial law until such time as the state accepts permanent federal supremacy (as occurred during “Reconstruction”).5. After the secession is suppressed, the federal government may force the states to adopt new state constitutions imposed upon them by federal military authorities (as also occurred during “Reconstruction”).6. The president may, on his own authority and without consulting any other branch of government, suspend the Bill of Rights and the writ of habeas corpus (as Lincoln did in the first months of his presidency).This, Ostrowski says, is a fair summary of what Lincoln said the Constitution had to say about secession, and Ostrowski is right. It is inconceivable that such amendments would ever have had the remotest possibility of being adopted by the constitutional convention.
Yes Johnnie, I was well aware that there were “slave” states that fought with the union. I think I learned that in probably the 3rd grade. And yes, I was also aware that Lincoln’s stated purpose of the Civil War was to preserve the union, not free slaves. He SAID it.
But the reason that slave states fought with the union is because most of the population in those states was anti-slavery, and the state proclamations a few months or a year or so after the war, abolishing slavery were pretty much box-checking at that point. Everyone knew slavery was over, it was just a matter of putting quill pen on paper.
Of the states that were exempted from the proclamation, Maryland (1864),[5] Missouri[6][7] and Tennessee (January 1865),[7] and West Virginia (February 1865)[8] abolished slavery before the war ended. However, Delaware[9] and Kentucky, while they saw a substantial reduction in slavery, did not see the abolition of slavery until December 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States
You probably missed that in school since it isn’t mentioned along with his long list of constitutional violations.
Leaving the union was a constitutional violation. Nowhere does it mention the right of states to leave.
Why aren’t all those computer netds dead from it, then?
They are “dead” but they’re still breathing.
Hey, it doesn’t bother me. This is a not-too-bright guy who writes not-too-bright things, a man can only do what he is capable of.
Bottom line, White men from the North fought a war that freed blacks.
No…no again, Old Sport; white Honkees fought a war because White MEN (your slavemasters) told them to.
Did white men go to the jungles to fight a war to free Gooks? Did YOU go to the desert to fight a war to free camel jockeys? It doesn’t work that way.
Do you really think that if slavery was common and/or profitable to Northern states, they would’ve fought a war, then amended the Constitution, to free black slaves? Wake up. Or don’t.
Let me let you in on a little secret Bro. It’s not hard to make money when your labor is free. Thomas Jefferson was viruently anti slave-trade. He had 600 slaves. He freed FIVE of them (just by coincidence, his two sons, his brother in law, and his two children) He was smart enough to know that he was a shit businessman WITH free labor. If he had to work 12 hours a day in the fields, there wouldn’t be a Jefferson monument or a University of Virginia (they way we know it), today.
No, let me tell you the purpose of the Civil war. Your slavemasters were really happy to have niggers in slavery, but they would have been much happier to have YOU in slavery as well. So they used this whole thing to create a distraction and then… income tax, the Federal Reserve. Social Security Cards and well, 160 years later, try to go fishing, get married, drive a car, leave the country, not vaccinate your children, buy a house, build onto your house…etc. etc. etc. without your slavemaster’s approval…
Great, now you understand* TOBY!
* Yes Old Sport, I know it’s not that simple, and you understand nothing, and you have already halfway planned a response to me that shows just how little you know about anything, such as “GRRRR, Why aren’t niggers happy that we sacrificed our lives for you!?!?!” But it SHOULD BE that simple.
It takes “Good Genes,” Tennie…
Yes. General Rimmer is the only guy I see from that list still stinking up the thread. Either the rest have aliases, or have met their untimely demise.
There is a good chance they all got AIDS.Although Trinity is a prolific disease-spreader and is still trolling these parts.
Either the rest have aliases, or have met their untimely demise.
Well, in all fairness, he only lived 5 days.The official surrender. Everyone knew the winner months before then. Lincoln could have included Liberia in his Emancipation Proclamation. That proclamation was a violation of the constitution since Congress would need to vote on changes to citizenship. Lincoln also mandated various construction plans. He had plenty of time and power to enact the Liberia plan. It was just talk and his actions suggest that he wanted to punish the South more than anything. Remember that he freed the slaves in the South before the North. A little tidbit normally kept out of public schools.Replies: @Truth
Once the war was over he never mentioned it.
(Official) slavery in the North ended long before the Lincoln was president.
You’d better get busy convincing all those Unzista Honkees with Jap and Flip wives.
Well hell, her mom and three sisters were murdered by Honkees in Donbass.
OK so it’s settled. You were alive before the Constitution was signed.
The organized military of This white country is 20% “congoloid” and 20% other.
There were very few slaves in the North.
I didn’t write the articles.
African slaves were noted in New Hampshire by 1645. They concentrated in the area around Portsmouth. Furthermore, as one of the few colonies that did not impose a tariff on slaves, New Hampshire became a base for slaves to be imported into America then smuggled into other colonies. Every census up to the Revolution showed an increase in black population, though they remained proportionally fewer than in most other New England colonies.
http://slavenorth.com/newhampshire.htm
in 1726, New Jersey’s slave population grew to nearly 4,000 in 1738.[3] Slaves accounted for about 12 percent of the colony’s population up to the Revolution.
http://slavenorth.com/newjersey.htm
From 5.9% in 1708, black slaves rose to account for 11.5% of the colony’s population by 1755. By 1774, Rhode Island’s 3,761 blacks were the third highest total in New England. The white population had grown since mid-century, but the colony’s slaves still made up 6.3% percent of the total population, almost twice as high as any other New England colony.
The big tobacco, cotton and sugar plantations were actually a drag on the ecinomy
Of course they were. That’s why the south sacrificed so many lives to keep them going.
If it titilates you to believe slaves were bred with Irish women,
I didn’t write the laws or the books. But I guess you are 400 years old?
A 1681 Maryland law reversed an earlier statute and reestablished that children born to free black women and black children born to white women would be free.
https://search.syr.edu/discovery/fulldisplay/alma9971534433408496/01SYU_INST:SYU
Once the war was over he never mentioned it.
Well, in all fairness, he only lived 5 days.
Well, in all fairness, he only lived 5 days.The official surrender. Everyone knew the winner months before then. Lincoln could have included Liberia in his Emancipation Proclamation. That proclamation was a violation of the constitution since Congress would need to vote on changes to citizenship. Lincoln also mandated various construction plans. He had plenty of time and power to enact the Liberia plan. It was just talk and his actions suggest that he wanted to punish the South more than anything. Remember that he freed the slaves in the South before the North. A little tidbit normally kept out of public schools.Replies: @Truth
Once the war was over he never mentioned it.
Negroes pretty much cleaned houses, babysitted and picked crops. Period.
One thing hasn’t changed Old Sport.
You’re still an imbecile. But then you knew that.
Indentured servants were slaves for 7 years, sometimes the “owners” would abuse that, but after 1681 there was no birthright slavery for white people. So all of the “they didn’t use blacks for dangerous jobs…” nonsense is of course… on your intellect level, because the Masa owned the children and grandchildren too.
Q: Why are general rippers closet homos.
A: Because their Uncles got their virginity before their Aunts!
Yes, but it would take 400M guys like you… but with balls, to enforce it.
He married the former Maria Lisa Calcaviettalicionimalacanaco from Naples. they only allowed interracial relationships on the plantations back then.
(See below).
There were plenty of slaves in the North, just not nearly as many as there were in the south. And you’re right, small farms were not nearly as slave-intense.
https://www.history.com/articles/slavery-new-england-rhode-island
But, like it or not, the rich crackers on the tobacco, cotton and sugar plantations are what built America, and the industrialized world, and started the industrial revolution. You wouldn’t have your cushy, commie union salary today without those negros from Africa*
But you’re right, I should have said, “coerced” regarding the Irish lasses.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.
https://www.irishpeople.ie/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves-part-1-of-3/
*90% fraud, most of us were already here, that Trans African slave trade thing was largely a myth, YOUR slavemasters just want false attribution for ownership of the US. The East Coast “Indians” were what we now call “African Americans”, west of the Mississippi, you found the “Asian” people we now call “Indians”. But, that’s 5 years early, hopefully you’re still alive in 2030. I promise you, it’s going to be good!
freed negros could have been moved out West and given their own reservation similar to the American Indians.
Then your great-great-great granddaddy would have been Shanghaied onto a boat in Palermo and forced to pick cotton. Because the cotton needed to be picked. But you would have been 3 inches taller because they would have made him mate with one of the Irish slave lasses.