RSSSlightly OT. We shouldn’t completely lose sight of the other “historical” events leading up to the international rage about Floyd’s death during his arrest.
The dogwalker who called the cops on the gay birdwatcher is in the news again: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/woman-sues-ex-employer-for-racial-discrimination-after-viral-central-park-incident/ar-AAKq0h4?ocid=entnewsntp
That’s really when the media set the tone that we were experiencing a wave of white supremacism, soon followed by the Georgia jogger. And then Floyd…
The question is, does her federal racial discrimination lawsuit have legs? Is anti-white racism not actionable? And if not, why not?
Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.
The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite
And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
Just to throw this out there: everyone knew each other in rural and small town communities back in those days. The population in general was considerably smaller. Also the people were considerably more bound by similar Christian mores. What I am suggesting is they knew who did it, and the crime was so heinous, the community acted out with even older old school justice. Finally no where in those statistics does it say the race of the ones doing the lynching.
BTW Do you like the lack of due process those who stepped into the Capital on June 6? Even definitively labeling them insurrectionist is prejudicial, and denying them fair defense. Due process is a nice idea, but only true in practice on TV court dramas.
Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process. What's bad about lynching is not only that innocents are lynched (although sometimes they are) but that the killing is extra-judicial and subverts the legal process.
The NAACP claims. How many were actually innocent, we’ll never know.
This is surely too high. It's probably higher than the 56% of known offenders but well south of 90%. It's bad enough as it is without exaggerating, which only reduces your credibility when your made up numbers can be easily debunked.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Old and Grumpy, @Almost Missouri, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Redmen, @William Badwhite
And probably at least 90 percent of the ‘snitches/stitches’ unknown offenders.
Of course we will never know because a lynching, by definition, means that the lynchee did not receive due process
Due process is increasingly appearing to be an anachronism. As Christopher Caldwell has posited, the Civil Rights Act has all but superseded the Constitution as half the country’s founding document. Was Chauvin given due process with the show trial last month? Will Fauci (or Clapper or Brennan) be charged with perjury in testimony to Congress, like Roger Stone was? Will the protestors/rioters of 1/6 be treated the same as the BLM and Antifa rioters and arsonists?
Under Biden and his enablers, TPTB seek racial equity and due process be damned. Notwithstanding, my non-expert suspicion is that 90% is a probably a bit high.
I’ve heard McWhorter say, “I’m not going to go there”
That’s interesting. Because if he (and Loury) are going to interview Charles Murray, he’s probably going to have to “go there.”
I’m a lifelong New Yorker, and I definitely feel a bit like I’m living behind enemy lines during a civil war. But I can’t afford to leave NY. Being a fifth columnist is my only possible aspiration.
I wish we could develop some sort of sign where we could identify like minded people without revealing our bad thinking.
It's because if you capitalize us, we become really, really dangerous, like, we might circumnavigate the globe, go to the Moon, invent stuff and basically make everyone else look like the losers they are.
What is the justification for capitalizing “Asian” but not “White”?
Oh sure they do, but now they go by Anonymous[265], Anonymous[266] and Anonymous[267].Replies: @Redmen
O/T What happened to Svigor, Lot, and Owen? Do they post anymore?
Along these lines. Last night I tried to forward the iSteve thread on the “Flight From White” discussing the vanishing white students in the San Mateo high schools. My friend (who is Chinese) has a daughter in one of the high schools there, and I wanted to get his take on it. Facebook messenger blocked it. I tried 4 times, and it was blocked each time.
Does anyone know if Facebook has officially blocked Steve or Unz?
I never go on Facebook, but do keep in touch with a few college friends via the FB messenger. But I’ve never had a URL link blocked by it before.
Good.
State officials voted to make it easier to become a New York state teacher on Monday by knocking off one of the state’s main teacher certification requirements.
What is the justification for capitalizing “Asian” but not “White”?
She can tell it’s flawed because blacks and Latinos don’t score as high on it as Asians and whites.
What is the justification for capitalizing “Asian” but not “White”?
It’s because if you capitalize us, we become really, really dangerous, like, we might circumnavigate the globe, go to the Moon, invent stuff and basically make everyone else look like the losers they are.
O/T What happened to Svigor, Lot, and Owen? Do they post anymore?
Oh sure they do, but now they go by Anonymous[265], Anonymous[266] and Anonymous[267].
As a progressive Wright doesn't completely disagree with everything Fuentes wrote, but it's clear he caught Fuentes in a number of major exagerations and tendentious stretches at the very least, something you'd have expected the editors at Nature to have ferreted out.
Agustin Fuentes, an anthropologist at Princeton, contended that Darwin’s 1871 book The Descent of Man “offers a racist and sexist view of humanity” and is “often problematic, prejudiced, and injurious.”
I won't quote Wright's long piece in detail. Here it is:
Here’s the assertion by Fuentes that, so far as I can tell, is flat-out wrong. After (accurately) writing that Darwin “asserted evolutionary differences between races,” he adds: “He went beyond simple racial rankings, offering justification of empire and colonialism, and genocide, through ‘survival of the fittest.’ ”
I’ve read a fair amount of Darwin, and I don’t remember him defending imperialism or genocide. So I asked Fuentes on Twitter if he could back up that claim by providing actual quotes from The Descent of Man. He didn’t oblige me, but he did direct me to chapter 7. So I pulled my copy of Descent off my bookshelf and took a look.....
Anyone who wants to join Fuentes in arguing that Darwin is trying to justify genocide runs into a couple of problems.
There used to be courses in Darwin in universities, where students would work through Descent or Origin cover to cover, and study it both as biology and as history/biography. This is a great way to approch seminal works by great scientists and is a lot of fun, since you get to change modes during the class. It's too bad that these kinds of courses are out of style (or #cancelled), and it's too bad that the current crop of professors is too dumb to even teach them, if Fuentes is any example.Replies: @notsaying, @eric, @Redmen, @ben tillman
(An important note on three words Darwin uses that were in those days technical terms within anthropology: “savages” were what we would call hunter-gatherers; “barbarians” were people who had agriculture but not a system of writing; “civilized” people had writing.)
The video someone posted last week of Fuentes’s “rebuttal” of Charles Murray at Notre Dame was one of the most depressing things I’ve seen in a while.
It’s hard to fathom that someone like Fuentes is teaching at the top universities in America. He’d be a lightweight instructor at most private schools 25 years ago.
A protest of the 2020 election outcome was planned beforehand by die-hard Republicans.
The articles you attach as proof that “evidence is growing” that the 1/6 events were preplanned were published 4 months ago. So what happened to all that “growing” evidence; did it just stop? Was it too scary to reveal? Also, those click baitey articles never state what the evidence was.
A protest of the 2020 election outcome was planned beforehand by die-hard Republicans. There is no reason to believe Trump was involved in planning, but he certainly provided the rational for a protest based on his endlessly repeating the false claim that the election was rigged and stolen:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/13/2008836/-Growing-evidence-that-Republican-leaders-were-directly-involved-in-planning-assault-on-Capitol
https://trendingpolitics.com/false-narrative-growing-evidence-capitol-attack-pre-planned-weakens-incitement-case-against-trump/
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/growing-evidence-capitol-attack-was-pre-planned-undercuts-trump-impeachment-premise-podcast/
Right and left wing publications agree, a protest on January 6th was planned, even though they disagree on the purpose and implications.
Selections from Trump’s mouth on 1-6-2021:
“All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing. And stolen by the fake news media. That’s what they’ve done and what they’re doing. We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”
“Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.”
“And by the way, does anybody believe that Joe had 80 million votes? Does anybody believe that?”
“Take third-world countries. Their elections are more honest than what we’ve been going through in this country. It’s a disgrace.”
Trump’s words were big on implications, yet lacking in any direct order or explicit plan. He clearly encouraged the crowd to take action against “the steal”. A crowd recruited from fanatic followers around the country. There is even little truth to Trump’s words, because US elections have never really been completely free and fair, gerrymandering reverses local outcomes, women, blacks and other poor people were once prevented from voting by law, intimidation and various dirty tricks, most recently fake purge lists generated by Republicans have made a mockery of free and fair.
Women and blacks had to protest in the streets before they could vote. There was a time in 2000 when Republicans literally stole the Presidency from Al Gore. But Trump, despite his promise to lay out the evidence proving he actually won the 2020 election, never did so on January 6th or in the Courts. Many of the problems with US elections over the past twenty years have been corrected. That is why election fraud monitors declared the outcome to be legitimate. But gerrymandering and voter purge lists are still with us and are the only reason Republicans remain competitive. That is the real problem, not that the election was stolen by Democrats.
The articles you attach as proof that "evidence is growing" that the 1/6 events were preplanned were published 4 months ago. So what happened to all that "growing" evidence; did it just stop? Was it too scary to reveal? Also, those click baitey articles never state what the evidence was.Replies: @Robert Dolan, @bayviking
A protest of the 2020 election outcome was planned beforehand by die-hard Republicans.
Fuentes says that notions of whiteness had “congealed” by 1963. And that at the turn of the 20th Century, his relatives would probably have been turned back at Ellis Island. Huh? People who have had some ethnic discrimination (like the Irish and Italians) often
I get that he didn’t have a lot of time. But he could have picked one or maybe 2 things and tried to connect with the audience by focusing on them. Instead he uses a shotgun approach of rebuttal which quickly loses the thread. He had enough time to make a lame joke about David Brooks, which nobody (including me) got.
He seems a bit like one of those professors who get caught fighting at Antifa-led protests at Cal Berkeley.
Except that he does more harm by being given a platform to protest in a prestigious but newly woke journals such as Science to espouse this anti-science moralizing stuff. It's like establishment science itself has now gone full woke and become Antifa.Replies: @AndrewR
He seems a bit like one of those professors who get caught fighting at Antifa-led protests at Cal Berkeley.
SO, somewhere, someone is unhappy with Darwin——why is this news? Why does this matter?
Is Darwin no longer taught in schools? Clearly that’s not the case.
Why reference Dailymail that garbage tabloid paper? Oh right, you’re a troll.
Wow. This Fuentes is a full fledged crackpot. He’s a Harvard professor?
He talks about “male and female bodies” have been demonstrated to react the same way to babies. This in response to something Murray had said about science having shown innate gender differences in reacting to babies. So I guess this guy is in the camp that there are no men and women, just male and female bodies.
He sounds a lot like a very bad plaintiff’s personal injury attorney. Appealing to emotion, but claiming the evidence backs up everything he’s saying (hint: it usually doesn’t).
All of these are good. But I’ve been thinking a lot lately about the possibility of C. Turning the lower classes against each other is an effective use of propaganda for TPTB to stave off the pitchforks as you say.
Made me think about this SNL “black jeopardy” skit in which the blacks come around to see they have more in common with the MAGA Trump guys than they realized.
JP-This comment is badly in need of citations. And a whole lot of editing. Or maybe you’re just going for a Tyrone Green vibe. In which case, it’s not bad.
Admit--doesn't bother me.
That would imply that coherent groups would have their own gallery space, the article is about a gallery space with art from many races and ethnicities just not whites.
Totally agree Another Dad.
While driving my 10-year old daughter and her friend to a soccer game, they couldn’t stop talking about a Zoom class they’d just had with Ruby Bridges. I asked who she was, since I’d missed that in my 20 years of schooling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Bridges
These kids of course attend an all white/Asian grammar school, but are already being instructed to hate the evil whites in the 1950s (and earlier) who built this nation.
IMO-Having an activist like this speak to children way too young to process the brainwashing they’re receiving is, in essence, proselytizing for a nihilistic religion of white self-hatred. I’m beginning to despise these insane progressives and their innate desire to destroy this society.
This was an interesting article about the growth of black identity through collective victimhood. It’s a burgeoning beast being fed by an oversupply of white guilt. The impetus of that guilt is the mass media’s false message of societal “systemic racism.” Younger blacks derive a stronger sense of group identity which strengthens their sense of self-worth, something that hardly seems to need strengthening in 2021.
Definitely worth a read:
https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/12/what-needs-repairing-isnt-america-but-white-guilt/
Exactly and if only Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and other so called conservatives had the guts to call out CRT as an explicit attack on white people as whites. But no, Tucker goes mealy mouthed and frames CRT as an attack on people "for how they look" which is confusing to someone who knows little to nothing about it. CRT attacks white people for being white.DeSantis is equally as disingenuous in saying that CRT "makes us all hate each other." No, CRT isn't a battle royale among every racial group. It makes non-whites hate and loathe whites. Critical Race Theory has its roots in the Frankfurt School which was almost entirely Jewish and dedicated to the destruction of Western Civilization. But of course we aren't supposed to notice that aspect of it. Instead we're supposed to pretend that CRT is another case of "libruls" doing the darndest things.Replies: @Realist, @Redmen, @follyofwar
Blacks are not being pitted against Hispanics. Hispanics are not being sicced on Asians, and Ameri-Indians aren’t being urged to attack the groups just mentioned. Rather, they’re all piling on honky.
This is totally untrue about Tucker. You must not have been watching him much lately. He’s the only person in all of MSM media who does engage on the topic of race honestly. Does he go full HBD? No. But it’s still a little too early for that on the telly.
Total bull in black and white.
If you’re talking about your contributions to this blog, I totally agree with you.
Steve,
I think you may have hit paydirt. My wife and I are planning a trip to Cali next year and we told our 7 year-old daughter. She immediately asked if we could go into the Hollywood sign.
Maybe it’s a girl thing, since I never even thought about that. But she was adamant about that being her goal.
Oh please, oh please don’t take my Unz reader away. Best place on the internet.
BTW-Lew Rockwell (my other American hero) is linking to Sailer at a furious rate. And who wouldn’t?
But what’s up with over 300 comments on the blonde-dyed asian chick? With all that’s going on right now I think this is not a topic of concern.
This seems exactly right to me. After I read the Bell Curve 2o years ago, my first thought was that all of this seemed like it was meant aimed towards justifying socialist policies.
IIRC Murray said almost exactly that in either the epilogue or some later comment on his findings. This from a libertarian at the AEI.
AA isn’t going anywhere.
Or how about the “integrity of the democratic process” being extolled as a founding principal? The founders understood the problems with said process. Hence, a Constitution to protect the rights of individuals and minorities.
But WWI and II turned America into the protector of “democracy.” So that’s who we are now.
Replies: @Redmen
Last week, a new poll showed a majority of Dems have favorable views of George W. Bush, who destroyed Iraq, tortured & let New Orleans drown. This week, a new poll shows a large majority of Dems trust the FBI, long one of the most abusive, deceitful, & authoritarian institutions. https://t.co/rcCZdkC16Z— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 30, 2018
Are those polls for real? Think about that.
GWB was literally Hitler to the left before literally Hitler got elected last year. The fact that the left (think Morning Joe, who fancies himself the reformed conservative who now has a band and a new wife who was the daughter of Bryzinsky) now touts how great and patriotic the FBI is defies belief.
It shows how rapidly changes of perception and political affiliation can occur in the hyper charged new tech world. Ideas can move the masses one way or the other in a virtual nanosecond.