So far, you're the only one here showing no understanding of how liberals think.

Replies: @jb

Run-of-the-mill White liberals are usually college grads. They are not stupid. They know the consequences of affirmative action, and they don't mind. They convince themselves that they are good people by believing that working class Whites are evil and deserve to be crushed. They think they are heroes, fighting Nazis.

-Discard

I said nothing about your content and everything about your delivery. You sound just like some of the graying Ponytailiban that live near me.

It's all about one thing for college-passed-through liberals (I refuse to use "educated"): getting enough foreigners over the border in time for the 2030 Census.

Don't pretend to lecture me about what liberals think, Sparky. I live in Boston.

I'll just ask one question: is affirmative action good for white people?

Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @jb

Thanks for elaborating. In addition to what you describe I think there is a significant component of "holding two opposing thoughts in their head at the same time" (e.g. blacks commit the same amount of crime as whites, yet they observe black neighborhoods being hellholes and choose not to live there) and failing to resolve that cognitive dissonance except by getting mad at anyone who points it out. I would call that lying to oneself. And have trouble calling any of that "arguing in good faith."

I think my “believes they argue in good faith” characterization is a good one. And helps contribute to why conversations with people like that go bad so quickly. When someone is convinced they are the "good guy" it is a serious assault to their self concept to point out maybe they are not.

Thanks. I appreciate your reply, and I agree with you about the movement.

Almost everybody argues in good faith.
 

Some definitions of "good faith" to consider whether or not "almost everybody" achieves this. Also "bad faith" since this is not a strict dichotomy. There are levels.

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2020-07/Good_Faith-vs-Bad_Faith-Arguments_or_Discussions.pdf

GOOD FAITH: A “Good Faith” argument or discussion is one in which both parties agree on the terms on which they engage, are honest and respectful of the other person's dignity, follow generally-accepted norms of social interaction, and genuinely want to hear what the other person thinks and has to say.
...
BAD FAITH: A “Bad Faith” discussion is one in which one or both of the parties has a hidden, unrevealed agenda—often to dominate or coerce the other individual into compliance or acquiescence of some sort—or lacks basic respect for the rights, dignity, or autonomy of the other party. Disrespect for the other party may include dishonesty. A person engaged in bad faith does not accept the other person as s/he is, but demands that s/he change in order to satisfy his/her requirements or to accept his/her will.

 

Another version.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/bad-faith-good-faith/

A bad faith argument boils down to whether the arguer genuinely believes the claim they’re making.
...
A bad faith argument is a position that can be factually disproved, yet its proponent continues to adhere to it. If the individual knows they are being dishonest or unfair with their position, it’s a bad faith argument.
...
A good faith argument is an argument that’s honest, fair, and genuinely considers the opponent’s perspective. An argument doesn’t have to be factual or even logical to be made in good faith—the arguer’s intent is what makes a good faith argument.
...
A good faith argument is an honest position. When an individual is open to discussing their position and adapting it when presented with facts that disprove their original claim, the position is a good faith argument.
 

What do you think?

Replies: @jb, @Harry Baldwin

Believing liars is crippling. Recognizing lies is liberating. Can you really believe that all the economists and sociologists and all the other academics in the social sciences are unaware of their own dishonesty? If so, why would they silence dissenting views rather than suppress them?

-Discard

Replies: @Dry, Watching Paint, @res

LOL do you jb? what you just typed is how liberals like to see themselves, not how they are. I'm from Chicago Irish Catholic stock, the old man is the oldest of 12th, and including all 36 of my first cousins on that side I might be the one and only non liberal, at least in the sense you're referring to.

The rest of your post is just altruistic, virtue signaling nonsense. Normal liberals love the idea of white men being replaced in all institutions. they see that as justice.

"What they want show compassion and decency and humanity towards all who need it."

This might be the biggest load of crap I've ever read here. All they want to do, is virtue signal on facebook, so they can compete with all of their other liberal friends to see who can make the biggest ass of themselves with their phony compassion. The extent of your compassion is how much you can talk about it. You nor any of your liberal friends would ever take any real action, like take a needy family into your home? Rich liberal white neighborhoods in Chicago are the most well policed in the city because all those compassionate and decent liberals want absolutely nothing to do with blacks or any other icky brown people. Not that I blame them. Why do you think Chicago has been displacing negroes from the liberal city to the more conservative suburbs for the last 35 years in Chicago? Hint: it isn't compassion and decency. Get real buddy.

That reads as accurate to me. But some facets make things worse than I think you are indicating.

1. Cradle to grave propaganda means they (usually) are convinced of their correctness and won't even listen to counterarguments.

2. Evaluating issues like this on an emotional rather than rational basis causes them to be easily led by people who DO want to marginalize whites.

Replies: @Mike Tre

Man, that is the perfect exposition of the mealy-mouthed jargon of the feminized left. You sound like a preschool teacher speaking to a recalcitrant 5-year-old!

Replies: @jb

Thanks, 'nominally “conservative” opinion writers' kind of explains him, I guess.

I remember (but don't remember the names) the WaPo doing that a couple decades ago. They tended to be pretty milquetoast conservatives. And to either not last, or be liberals in wolves' clothing.

David Brooks actually mentioned Steve by name, and his buddies went after him for it. So Douthat's a lot more circumspect. But I have noticed stuff discussed by Steve winds up in the MSM a few weeks later quite often.

So how do liberal affirmative action supporters justify buying houses in expensive White neighborhoods instead of less expensive diverse neighborhoods? How do they justify sending their kids to private schools? They don't. They know that Blacks aren't very smart, are much more violent, and tend to destroy everything they touch, and they respond accordingly. "Revealed preference" is the name for it.

Affirmative action is best explained by malice towards the White working class.

-Discard

Replies: @OilcanFloyd

I previously described how I think liberal affirmative action supporters actually justify AA in their own heads
 

I did a ProQuest search through the archives of the print edition (going back to 1980) and came up with 76 results.

The first usage was in 1985; the second in 1990; and then the third, fourth, and fifth in 2015, during what Steve would call the Late Obama Age Collapse.

Usage of the term exploded in June 2020, in the aftermath of the death of George Floyd.

Here's the list:



1
JACKSON STRESSES BLACK-JEWISH TIES
Gross, Jane.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 May 1985: A.15.
...anti-blackness,'' Mr. Jackson said, reviewing his trip in an interview here...

2
THE NEW TRIBALISM; Who'll Take The High Ground?: [Letter]
New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 23 Sep 1990: A.4.
...anti-blackness, homophobia. We are lying to ourselves, and such lies fester -...

3
Clinton and Black Activist, Raw and Unscripted: [National Desk]
Haberman, Maggie.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 20 Aug 2015: A.1.
...and minds" to address what he calls a virulent strain of "anti-blackness" that...

4
Hillary Clinton's Response to a Black Activist: [Letter]
New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 26 Aug 2015: A.18.
...change 'hearts and minds' to address what he calls a virulent strain of 'anti...
...-blackness' " in this country. In general, she said, "I don't believe you change...

5
A Trailer, and a Fight, Over Stonewall: [Arts and Leisure Desk]
Schou, Solvej.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 20 Sep 2015: AR.14.
...anti-blackness, Hollywood trans-face casting, misgendering, identity...

6
Girls Go Missing, and Washington's Racial Divide Grows Wider: [National Desk]
Sheryl Gay Stolberg.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 02 Apr 2017: A.14.
...black and Latina girls. "The bottom line is there is an anti-blackness, an...

7
Where 'Everything Is Under Attack': [Education Life Supplement]
Pappano, Laura.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 06 Aug 2017: ED.18.
...Independent "for its continual perpetuation of hate speech, anti-Blackness, and...

8
When a Racial Slur Feels Irrelevant: [Op-Ed]
Thrasher, Steven W.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 Aug 2018: SR.11.
...his anti-blackness. Calling majority-black nations "shithole countries."...

9
It's On Men to End Sexism in the Black Church: [Op-Ed]
Ware, Lawrence.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 02 Dec 2018: SR.5.
...white people that if they fail to speak up when confronted with anti-blackness,...

10
Novel Is Pulled After Readers Charge Racism: [Business/Financial Desk]
Alter, Alexandra.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 01 Feb 2019: B.7.
...device. "How is nobody mentioning the anti-blackness and blatant bigotry in...

11
Donald Trump, Raging Racist: [Op-Ed]
Blow, Charles M.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 15 July 2019: A.21.
...country, some degree of anti-blackness has existed. Now, there is an...

12
White Friends, Fight Anti-Blackness: [Op-Ed]
Sanders, Chad.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 06 June 2020: A.21.
...need them to fight anti-blackness. My book is coming out...

13
'Pandemic Within a Pandemic' Fuels Unrest: [Correction]
Sheryl Gay Stolberg.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 08 June 2020: A.20.
...and anti-blackness," citing the coronavirus and the recent killings of three...

14
Sarah Bellamy: [Arts and Leisure Desk]
New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 14 June 2020: AR.4.
...equity, to fight white supremacy and anti-blackness." That would be tremendously...

15
I'm a Black American Refugee: [Op-Ed]
Drayton, Tiffanie.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 14 June 2020: SR.4.
...in my childhood mind was ruined by anti-blackness as I grew older. The quest for...

16
Judges Grapple With Racial Injustice: [Op-Ed]
Wegman, Jesse.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 18 June 2020: A.22.
...the heart of so much of the legal system's failure of justice. "Racism and anti...
...-blackness have always operated and continue to operate under color of law," L....

17
Note to Dancers: ‘Drop Your Self-Consciousness’ and Get Into It [With graphic(s)]
Kourlas, Gia.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 June 2020.
...to anti-blackness in all of its forms, you say, wow. Again . But this time...

18
Sanders Wanted a Revolution. But Does This One Want Him?: [National Desk]
Ember, Sydney.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 June 2020: A.14.
...and anti-blackness, and that stuff is even outdistancing what candidates in the...

19
Calling All Instruments of Change: [Arts and Leisure Desk]
Kourlas, Gia.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 21 June 2020: AR.5.
...to murder, when you're accustomed to anti-blackness in all of its forms, you...

20
Trying to Be 'One of The Good Ones': [Op-Ed]
Higgins, Maeve.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 21 June 2020: SR.2.
...white, understanding racism and anti-blackness is not a root canal, it's not...

21
The Second Defeat of Bernie Sanders: [Op-Ed]
Douthat, Ross.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 25 June 2020: A.24.
...corporation worth its salt is saying something about structural racism and anti...
...-blackness, and that stuff is even outdistancing what candidates in the...

22
Johnson & Johnson And Unilever Retreat On Selling Lighter Skin: [Business/Financial Desk]
Arora, Priya; Maheshwari, Sapna.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 26 June 2020: B.5.
...a grinning black woman, was based on a racial stereotype. In South Asia, anti...
...-blackness and colorism have origins that predate colonialism and systemically...

23
As U.S. Confronts Anti-Black Racism, Latinos Wonder Where They Fit In [With graphic(s)]
Medina, Jennifer.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 03 July 2020.
...their platforms to dismantle racism, colorism and anti-blackness in our own...
...Mijente circulated a similar petition. Anti-Blackness has deep and complicated...
...in fights against anti-Blackness.” Many liberal Latino activists have been...



24
Latinos Seek Voice in Black-and-White Dialogue: [National Desk]
Medina, Jennifer.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 04 July 2020: A.1.
...anti-blackness in our own Latino community." Mijente circulated a similar...
...and that we can be active conspirators in fights against anti-Blackness." ...
...-Blackness has deep and complicated roots throughout Latin America, where...

25
Do Progressives Have a Free Speech Problem?: [Op-Ed]
Goldberg, Michelle.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 July 2020: SR.3.
...the 1960s and Richard Nixon's vote share. Shor was accused of "anti-Blackness"...

26
The Trouble With 'Anti-Racist' Movie Lists: [Op-Ed]
Gates, Racquel.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 July 2020: SR.3.

...this long overdue rush to acknowledge America's deeply entrenched anti-blackness...

27
Let's Talk About 'Indian Matchmaking': [Op-Ed]
Sathian, Sanjena.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 09 Aug 2020: SR.7.
...women dating outside the race. ("Masala" deserves praise for tackling anti...
...-Blackness among South Asians.) On "Master of None" and "The Mindy Project," the...

28
A Seasoned View on Today's Protests: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Harper, Sydney.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 11 Aug 2020: A.2.
...very first time. These protests against anti-Blackness and police brutality,...

29
Every Choice for Parents Contains Potential Risks Or Unfair Advantages: [Foreign Desk]
Claire Cain Miller.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 14 Aug 2020: A.7.
...about it all the time, in this moment of heightened awareness of racism and anti...
...-Blackness and Covid racial disparities," said Professor Carter, who studies...

30
Yale Students Denounce Discrimination Accusations: [National Desk]
Anemona Hartocollis; Giulia Mcdonnell Nieto Del Rio.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 15 Aug 2020: A.17.
...anti-Black racism in America. "Anti-Blackness and systematic racism and...

31
Sometimes, a Song Sparks a Revolution: [Arts and Leisure Desk]
Brooks, Daphne A.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 16 Aug 2020: AR.10.
...anti-Blackness of America's nascent record business in the early 20th century. ...

32
Guggenheim Approves Diversity Plan After Staff Complaints of Racism
Small, Zachary.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 17 Aug 2020.
... “That means acknowledging the museum’s anti-Blackness and holding leadership...

33
Guggenheim Aims to Focus on Diversity: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Small, Zachary.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 18 Aug 2020: C.3.
...from its foundation. That means acknowledging the museum's anti-Blackness and...

34
This Time, Happily-Ever-After Isn't Assured: [Movies, Performing Arts/Weekend Desk]
De León, Concepción.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 04 Sep 2020: C.11.
...always anti-Blackness. There's always these kind of incredibly, so cruel that...

35
A Black Fan Group Speaks, and the N.H.L. Listens: [Sports Desk]
Santaniello, Gary.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 18 Sep 2020: B.10.
...impacted personally by anti-Blackness or oppression won't change, because why...

36
Photoville, With a Wider Lens: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Mitter, Siddhartha.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 22 Sep 2020: C.1.
...anti-Blackness as hostile terrain; to Black creation under extreme conditions;...

37
WeChat, Wild Rumors and All, Offers Chinese Immigrants a Lifeline: [National Desk]
Hong, Nicole.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 05 Oct 2020: A.16.
...who said the Chinese community suffered from "rampant anti-Blackness" and urged...

38
Education Without Anxiety About Racism: [Op-Ed]
Anderson, Melinda D.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 29 Oct 2020: A.29.
...schools as "sites for anti-Blackness." "I'm able to witness what school has...

39
Can Clubhouse Move Fast Without Breaking Things?: [Business/Financial Desk]
Roose, Kevin.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 26 Feb 2021: B.1.
...tour. ("We unequivocally condemn Anti-Blackness, Anti-Semitism, and all other...

40
Move to Retire Dr. Seuss Books Stirs a Backlash: [National Desk]
Alter, Alexandra; Harris, Elizabeth A.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 05 Mar 2021: A.1.
...in children's literature published "The Cat Is Out of the Bag: Orientalism, Anti...
...-Blackness, and White Supremacy in Dr. Seuss's Children's Books," a paper...

41
Black and Wary, I Got Vaccinated Anyway: [Op-Ed]
Young, Damon.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 11 Apr 2021: SR.3.
...This mistrust comes from an awareness of the ubiquity of American anti-Blackness...
...the anti-Blackness embedded in society, participation is still necessary to...



42
‘We Have No Right to Destroy Them’
Williams, Andrea.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 14 Apr 2021.
...justification for his own anti-Blackness. Later, during a time of hope and...

43
The Fleecing of the Negro Leagues: [Sports Desk]
Williams, Andrea.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 15 Apr 2021: B.7.
...own anti-Blackness. Later, during a time of hope and actual headway, his words...

44
A Monument of Past and Present: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Cotter, Holland.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 05 June 2021: C.1.
..."How do we dismantle systems of anti-Blackness? How can we come together...
...final wall in the gallery called "Systems of Anti-Blackness in America" at...

45
Protest Moments They Will Never Forget: [National Desk]
Shimabukuro, Mark.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 08 June 2021: A.17.
...movement as we grappled with anti-Blackness and racism in a way I had never seen...

46
Omar Comments Spur Democratic Infighting On Human Atrocities: [National Desk]
Weisman, Jonathan.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 11 June 2021: A.14.
...detractors of Islamophobia and "anti-Blackness." The day's back-and-forth ended...
...anti-Blackness and Islamophobia." Representative Pramila Jayapal of Washington,...

47
The Pain of Being Erased: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Garcia, Maira; Garcia, Sandra E; Herrera, Isabelia; De León, Concepción; Phillips, Maya; et al.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 23 June 2021: C.1.
...(mostly) fair-skinned. It's a reflection of a global culture of anti-Blackness...
...history of anti-Blackness, which has permitted white and lighter-skinned Latinos...

48
In Brooklyn, New Statue of Floyd Is Defaced With Symbol of a White Supremacist Group: [National Desk]
Watkins, Ali.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 26 June 2021: A.16.
...anti-Blackness and racism, but it is also about the lack of even basic human...

49
Christians Must Fight Systemic Racism: [Op-Ed]
Esau Mccaulley.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 19 July 2021: A.18.
...weapon against anti-blackness and despair. Others have trod different paths. ...

50
The Spectacle of Latinx Colorism: [Op-Ed]
Karla Cornejo Villavicencio.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 01 Aug 2021: SR.4.
...of anti-Blackness in our community. When interviewers have asked me what...
...not the first time they have brought many of us to tears. Anti-Blackness...

51
Traversing Inextricably Linked Worlds: [Review]
D'Souza, Aruna.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 20 Aug 2021: C.1.
...to highlight the anti-Blackness embedded in our most revered art historical...

52
MacArthur Foundation Announces 2021 ‘Genius’ Grant Winners
Stevens, Matt; Schuessler, Jennifer.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 28 Sep 2021.
...recovery from the pandemic and combat anti-Blackness, uplift Indigenous...

53
25 Are Named MacArthur Fellows: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Stevens, Matt; Schuessler, Jennifer.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 29 Sep 2021: C.3.
...recovery from the pandemic and combat anti-Blackness, uplift Indigenous Peoples...

54
The Impact of the Browning of America on Anti-Blackness: [Op-Ed]
Blow, Charles M.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 15 Nov 2021: A.16.
...-blackness. You have to fight both. The sad reality is, however, that...
...underscoring that you don't have to be white to contribute to anti-blackness. A...
...how anti-blackness, or anti-darkness, is no respecter of race or ethnicity. It...

55
Dominique Morisseau Pulls Play From L.A. Theater, Citing ‘Harm’
Stevens, Matt.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 27 Nov 2021.
...industry to “look inward and acknowledge a pervasive culture of anti-blackness...

56
Carrie Mae Weems Sets the Stage and Urges Action
Aruna D’Souza.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 06 Dec 2021.
...anti-Blackness and eroding democracy foremost among many woes, while reminding...

57
Images That Shout: Take Action: [Review]
D'Souza, Aruna.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 07 Dec 2021: C.1.
...with ever-present anti-Blackness and eroding democracy foremost among many...

58
Shakespeare Stories 'Satisfy His Soul': [Arts and Leisure Desk]
Collins-Hughes, Laura.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 06 Feb 2022: AR.8.
...centuries has often been portrayed in ugly caricature; and the anti-Blackness...
...and anti-Blackness. He speaks, too, about the buildup of daily indignities and...

59
An Expert Practitioner Administers the Pain: [Review]
Soloski, Alexis.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 16 Feb 2022: C.6.
...who would deny Thompson any role he wanted?) But anti-Blackness and antisemitism...

60
U.S. Grants Temporary Protected Status to Some Ukrainians
Sullivan, Eileen.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 03 Mar 2022.
...is evidence of anti-Blackness and discrimination toward Black immigrants,” Tse...

61
Biden Administration Gives Temporary Protected Status to Some Ukrainians in U.S.: [Foreign Desk]
Sullivan, Eileen.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 04 Mar 2022: A.8.
...decisions. "It is evidence of anti-blackness and discrimination toward Black...

62
Demanding That Ketanji Brown Jackson 'Show Her Papers': [Op-Ed]
Blow, Charles M.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 07 Mar 2022: A.16.
...isolated incident. People the world over carry so much anti-Blackness that Black...

63
After a Campus Uproar, Princeton Seeks to Fire A Tenured Professor: [National Desk]
Anemona Hartocollis.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 21 May 2022: A.21.
..."Anti-Blackness is foundational to America." The letter called on the...

64
Deliverance Draped in Loss: [Arts and Leisure Desk]
Phillips, Maya.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 26 June 2022: AR.6.
...Should we be praising Erika for her anti-Blackness, her privilege, her Uncle...

65
Solveig Gold Is Proud to Be the Wife of a ‘Canceled’ Princeton Professor
Anemona Hartocollis.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 01 July 2022.
...that the university combat institutional racism. “Anti-Blackness is...

66
The Aspirations of Solveig Gold: [Style Desk]
Anemona Hartocollis.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 03 July 2022: ST.6.
...demanding that the university combat institutional racism. "Anti-Blackness...

67
The Exploitative Anti-Blackness Of Kanye West: [Op-Ed]
Blow, Charles M.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 10 Oct 2022: A.21.

68
Los Angeles City Council President Resigns in Light of Racist Comments: [Correction]
Cowan, Jill; Hubler, Shawn.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 11 Oct 2022: A.15.
...exemplifies anti-Blackness," she said. "How is it we have these people in...

69
The Self-Destruction of Ye: [Op-Ed]
Blow, Charles M.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 31 Oct 2022: A.19.
...should have existed for his anti-Blackness. This is not about mental illness....

70
'A Moment in History I'm Going to Remember Forever': Irving Is Reinstated: [Sports Desk]
Sopan Deb.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 21 Nov 2022: D.7.
...legitimately to learn about what anti-Blackness was," Irving added. "And it led...

71
Blacks and Jews, Again: [Op-Ed]
Dyson, Michael Eric.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 27 Nov 2022: SR.4.
...in on Ye's noxious anti-Blackness may have been discouraged from doing so...
...mother or brother, but you had better not. By that standard, Ye's anti-Blackness...

72
As Historians Gather, No Truce in the History Wars
Schuessler, Jennifer.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 08 Jan 2023.
...stories, that aren’t rooted in histories of anti-Blackness,” she said,...

73
Grappling With Past, Present and Future: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
Schuessler, Jennifer.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 09 Jan 2023: C.1.
...anti-Blackness," she said, historians of Black people "have had to by default...

74
Judge America by the Number of Small Coffins It Tolerates: [Op-Ed]
Esau Mccaulley.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 31 Mar 2023: A.20.
...politician." The deaths of the children spoke to the state of anti-Blackness...

75
A Show Confronts Evil, Yet the Friction Lingers: [The Arts/Cultural Desk]
D'Souza, Aruna.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 20 July 2023: C.1.
...courageous way to take on the pernicious anti-Blackness he saw around him....

76
Old New York's Most Powerful Black Woman: [Op-Ed]
Staples, Brent.  New York Times, Late Edition (East Coast); New York, N.Y.. 18 Feb 2024: SR.6.
...to know Elizabeth would have warned her of how easily the city's anti-Blackness...

...Of course I had to Google “anti-blackness” next, but Google has stopped making it easy to count articles, and I’m not even going to try. But good for Ross: whatever else you might think of him, he is, however tentatively, going there.
 

Wait, students with a perfect 1600 on the SAT only average 0.43 better GPA than those with a mediocre 1200? That says a lot about college grade inflation!
 

That, and even very smart kids often don't like to do their homework.

The other reason it's good to know is that if "she" is on heat, and your male dog is intact, then there's always the possibility of impromptu mating, not good if "she" is a little dog and "he" is a big dog.

I guess mentioning it was a eunuch might fit

How’s “it” doing?

They filter nutrients out of the sand and exhale the atmosphere. The joke is that they're actually plants.

Replies: @jb

It’s sort of the Woke version of “the Jews control everything”.
 

They control all finance and information. Check!
Both of which serve as the foundation for all social institutions. Check!

So, again, what don't they control?

They might not control everyone's mind. But if someone speaks their mind in a way they don't approve of they censor them, while at the same time presenting their negative opinion of any individual or group they don't like as "the truth" in their attempt to destroy that individual or group's life (they call that chutzpah).

So, again, what don't they control?

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Trump is
 

Replies: @HA

Trump didn't do half what his voters had hoped for but he was much better than Hillary would have been. And much better than Biden.

Biden stood in front of a blood red flag, flanked by military men, and declared millions of Americans enemies of the state. The Usual Suspects try to memory-hole this.

Nikki Haley is an anti-White affirmative action pick who would govern just like Biden. But she's already out of the picture.

The main benefit of Trump is the thing you allude to: he "alienates", that is exposes and infuriates, tens of millions of Fake Americans. He makes them expose their hatred of real Americans and of White people in general. The hatred of Trump caused institutions like the FBI, the media, the Pentagon and CIA to drop the mask and show the actual American people what monsters they are.

And that's a good thing. Let's hope for more!

There is nothing wrong with nationalism. Nationality is anti-fragile. The State can do a lot of things but it can't change who your ancestors were.

Proposition nationhood is fragile. The proposition inevitably changes or gets hijacked. And when there's no more consensus on the proposition there's no more nationhood. Politics shift from What-How to Who-Whom.

This is the fate of all multi-national empires. The US, Britain and most of the EU no longer even defend their own borders. There's no country without borders just like there's no property without metes and bounds.

This is Humanity 101, and the ideological conservatives are flunking it.

You Republicans never cease to mystify me.

Until a little while ago I was rooting for the Fat One, but now that DeSantis is out of the race and the choice is Trump or Haley I no longer really care. (Trump and Haley are both bad, although in entirely different ways. With DeSantis there was at least possibility).
 

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Don't worry, the Chinese (who suffer no such shibboleths) will do it.

It would be nice as on Amazon delivery to UK would only be about $15.

https://www.takimag.com/article/short-shaming/

Short-Shaming

Why is discrimination against the short considered not only tolerable, but also amusing? In an era constantly on the lookout for prejudices to denounce, this obvious one gets a pass.

The main reason our culture doesn’t denounce short-shaming is highly revealing about the essential nature of wokeness.

(…)

It’s striking that height prejudice isn’t demonized today, even though it has disparate impact on immigrant ethnicities. (…) So height discrimination benefits whites.

However, most concerns in the U.S. about racial inequality focus upon blacks versus whites, and black men, at a little over 5’9″, are almost as tall as white men.

(…)

An awareness of heightism first emerged in the early 1970s. The word “sexism” first appeared in print in 1968, and “heightism” naturally followed in 1971.

On the other hand, enthusiasm for deploring heightism has largely faded.

Why is heightism barely a term in 2019? Because it is more often women discriminating against men over height than men discriminating against women.

(…)

Criticizing women’s heightism seems like sexism.

Our culture has increasingly lost interest in general principles and instead thinks, like Stalin, in terms of “Who? Whom?” Punching down at short men is fine these days because they are men, and thus are assumed to deserve to be whomed.
 

It's the button that says Insert MORE Tag to the upper-right of the comment box

Replies: @jb

It is WordPress specific.
https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/blocks/more-block/

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Yes, I posted that under the fold 🙂

Replies: @jb

“How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is to have a thankless child.”

--King Lear.

I agree. But even more important than "doing harm to one's self and others," the Catholic church centuries earlier (and today's woke equivalents) didn't (and don't) want to relenquish power and authority.

The logic of Woke censorship is very similar to the logic of historical censorship by the Catholic Church (e.g., the Index of Forbidden Books), and it actually makes a fair amount of sense.
 

Of course Usenet was better. sci*, alt.*, soc.*.... Those were the days. These were almost academic discussions.

I remember hearing "there's no race!" from the same student in high school who at another time also stated, as if it were plain to all, that Asians are smarter than whites. I don't think an adult would let that slip out ... acknowledging one racial IQ gap suggests it's overwhelmingly likely that others exist, and we have a lot more evidence for the black-white gap than for the white-Asian gap. Fortunately my high school wasn't a place where students went on trial for things they said. I suppose I could add she wasn't Asian and I don't think there were any Asians in the class.

I suspect even some people who tell us race does not exist might also believe things that flatly contradict it, and be afraid to say so out loud. It could even be a coping mechanism ... the ones who tell us the most loudly that there is no such thing as race are the ones who desperately wish it were true because all the evidence they see points to the opposite, less pleasing, conclusion. But I can't read minds.

And yes. I suspect the "race does not exist" slogan has a much stronger effect on children than on adults. The impression I get is that whats being pumped into kids' minds in schools these days is so far removed from reality that the thought of racial intelligence differences won't even occur to them. Yet, the Left is at cross purposes with itself, because if there are no races, how do they blame white people for all of the world's problems? I saw a children's book a few days ago containing the sentence "White people made up an idea called race".

I've a hunch they're getting ready to rule by brute force instead of relying on the increasingly tenuous arguments. "Okay, race does exist! You figured it out! And your race is at the bottom because you're the weakest and softest. Too bad!" That's if the "everyone against white people" coalition can hold .... it probably won't work everywhere, but we see places like Portland OR doing it already which proves they can push white people around even while whites are still a majority.

As an aside, can we all agree that the world would be a better place if the black race really was just as smart as whites? I've run into a few leftists who seem to believe that the whole race/IQ debate is about whites trying to prove that blacks are less intelligent to make ourselves feel better. This seems like a ridiculously easy argument to counter, but the few times it's come up in a debate I'm in I've been awash in other things, and I don't really focus on race/IQ anymore.

Just wondering why this comment (the comment I'm responding to) has been languishing for over two hours while 12 comments that were posted later have been approved. I did notice that when I posted, instead of appearing with a "Your comment is awaiting moderation" notice, the comment simply disappeared (something I've seen before), and it didn't show up as awaiting moderation until I refreshed about an hour later, so maybe there's some quirk in the comment system and the comment got lost.

“Diversity” has always been a code word for affirmative action.
 

The reason the word has been so wildly popular on the left is that it allows you to obscure the fact that you are taking away from one group and giving to another — something the losers might feel they had a right to object to — and frame it instead as everyone winning
 

In principle there might be situations where diversity might mean whites benefiting at the expense of blacks, or men benefiting at the expense of women, but in practice this never happens.
 

I agree with your conclusions.
I would only add that, in American practice: Diversity = anti-white.

I have been saying for years that we need more diversity in the NBA. Asians are sorely under-represented.

Huh. In my experience "Diversity" means "Fewer Whites, preferably none."

Your entire comment is patently false.

Diversity literally means that the set contains lots of different kinds of things. In society, it literally means having a less homogeneous population. In the US, that would mean, more Hispanic, more Asian, more black people.

As for taking from "winners" and giving to "losers," why do you hate this so much? Our society is ridiculously unequal. Do office workers really provide 4x as much value as laborers? Of course not.

In addition, social capital and the environment you grew up in plays a major role in your earnings later in life.

The winners and losers are not even *fair* "winners" and "losers," and they are not rewarded fairly. So even if you loooooovvvvvvveeeee watching people "win" and "lose", why would you like the current game of life that we are playing, in which the team with fewer goals might win?

[...] see Hitler as a sort of Dark God who is forever threatening to burst out of the grave.
 

Well, you can't even name a boy Adolf, which was a very common name in Europe. You can't even wear old bourgouse style mustachs. I say there is a lot of going here psycholocigally, not for just jews. Anyway, it's ironic that after messing with christianity you get nazism with almost somekind of marxian necessity.

But he didn't kill the man. Or cause his death. Or contribute to his death. You want him convicted of manslaughter for being "an asshole" (translation: a cop who did his job).

I 100% agree and thank you. I was writing similar comments when the trial was going on (to what response you can well imagine).

My brief with the Right's response to this whole unfortunate situation was that it doesn't ultimately matter what killed George Floyd. Even if I'm dying of an overdose, that doesn't give a police officer the right to pin me to the ground until I'm good and dead. Derek Chauvin, as a police officer, would have been trained in first aid and would have had a first aid kit in his car with naloxone in it. He could have attempted to render some type of aid. The way he handled the situation was inexcusable.

I also don't want to hear about what a horrible human being George Floyd was, which I don't dispute. Police officers have to be held to a higher standard. You know when you take that job that you will be dealing with a lot of human filth, and that resuscitating an overdosing junkie in your custody is one of the unsavory but necessary duties of a peace officer in a civilized society. The police are not remitted to perform public euthanasia, even if society would be better off without someone like Floyd.

What Derek Chauvin did was a crime. Even if it was a bit of a stretch for the murder statute, the optics were bad enough that a conviction was probably inevitable. It's very unfortunate that this "played into the racial panic," as you put it. In the interests of justice, it should be explained again and again that this was not a racially motivated murder. You are correct about that as well.

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Beyond that, I have no sympathy for a cop who continues kneeling on a handcuffed suspect’s neck (or back, or whatever you nitpickers) for three minutes after his partner says he can’t find a pulse.
 

Replies: @jb

Officer Derek Chauvin followed his training to the letter. There were no grounds for his indictment, much less his conviction. You can’t be indicted and convicted for following your training. You’ve reversed the burden of proof.

Floyd hadn’t just ingested enough fentanyl to kill him him three times over, but also meth, thc, and he had just had covid.

The Floyd hysteria was based on lies on top of lies on top of lies, going back generations. Genocidal, anti-White racists do nothing but lie about Whites 24/7. They have given us hoax after hoax after hoax. The problem has always been that people who know better are too cowardly to point that out. There are terms for such people, e.g., “republicans,” “conservatives,” “traitors,” etc. They cost us our country.

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Whatever. We've got a new national understanding to keep people like you from worrying yourselves about racism. Cops will just stay away and let blacks die of their own actions in the streets. It's Steve's favorite issue. What are we up to? 26K extra dead blacks? Check in with Steve, he's keeping count.

Everybody understands now the best strategy with blacks is just "keep away."

Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

"Oh nuts, I was hoping nobody else had made that joke but I guess it was too obvious."

Lol! Couldn't resist, it has such fond associations for me. "Nappy" reminds me of Steve's use of "stabby", which just tickles me no end.

And of my old friend's favorite insult, "snaggle-toothed, nappy-headed black mother******". Say it out loud. It has real ring to it.

I noticed that and something else even more bizarre.

https://rlv.zcache.com/come_out_of_the_closet_you_have_a_life_to_live_postcard-r8dd7177a2717462289bbce43cb39500f_vgbaq_8byvr_324.jpg

 

Charlie Kirk said "Sailyer" or "Sail-ee-yer" at least twice.

See my comments above on Kirk reading a script in his introduction to Sailer.

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Wait, Steve SailYer?
 

(I assume it would be possible in principle to speed things up by genetically engineering faster horses and smarter people using something like CRISPR, but people would scream, and at least for now we don’t understand the genetic architecture of horses or humans well enough to make it work. I should ask ChatGPT about this…).
 

That's like saying, Math, not engineering! or Math, not physics!

Game theory originated with von Neumann, modeling a two-person zero-sum game. Strategic interaction of two persons = social science. Nobel-winning economist Thomas Schelling (a professor of foreign policy, national security, nuclear strategy, and arms control) imaginatively showed how to apply noncooperative game theory to many kinds of human interactions, yielding great insights.

Many social scientists use various forms of mathematics. One of 10,000 examples: James Coleman's Foundations of Social Theory. Probability, statistics, and research design are routine. Game theory, social-network analysis, calculus (economics) and more.

Connectionism was pioneered by psychologists in the 1950s and much furthered by psychologists Rumelhart and McClelland then at UC San Diego. Without their work, no neural nets, no machine learning, no AI. Maybe you think history is bunk as well.

The debates about how best to model human mental processes involved even -- gasp -- philosophers.

An outstanding example is Berkeley Heidegerrian philosopher Dreyfus. He famously showed how the preceding computational model of mental processes was mistaken and correctly predicted the failure of that giant research program.

"I know nothing about X, hence X is worthless" is not a valid inference.

Replies: @res, @Hypnotoad666

"Game theory is math, not social science."


Game theory at bottom is economics, which is a combination of math and social science, and maybe magical thinking also.

I used to date a leading proponent of game theory, and let me tell you, she had an early life that was so complicated and banged-up, it was a game theory all on its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJSQxbedplM&list=RDMM&index=27

Replies: @obwandiyag

Let's start with

1. Game theory &

2. Game theory

Replies: @jb

1. Connectionism in psychology

2. Neural networks, machine learning, artificial intelligence

There's a lot of malarkey and fluff in all the sciences, not just social science. But 5 to 10% of output is worth keeping. I could easily cite another dozen examples in social science.

Replies: @jb

Sure. Placebos can work even when the subject is told by the doctor, this is a placebo. Pretty counter-intuitive, I would say.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/placebo-can-work-even-know-placebo-201607079926

There are many of these but I think my favorite is this: There exists a methodology whereby two strangers who have never spoken to each other and do not share a preexisting “key” of any kind can have a conversation, and establish a secret from an interloper who hears every word of their conversation. In an article I read about this, the author called it one of the most counterintuitive findings in the history of science.

Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @Anonymous, @dearieme, @dearieme, @simp

I think the trick here might be "unexpected" or "counterintuitive". Behavioral Economics has some examples but you could argue that the findings were only unexpected to economists

Replies: @Known Fact

"There may be an easy answer to this that I am missing, but can anyone name any finding in the social sciences in the last 50 years (or ever really) that: 1) was unexpected or counterintuitive; and 2) was put into routine productive use in any way?"

The six-degrees-of-separation study is been complemented with network theory to help deal with terrorist networks. I'm not saying that anything touted as an advance won't itself be called into question at some point (as with criminal profiling), but that's another matter.

The understanding that pedophilia (and any number of other paraphilias/addictions/compulsions) cannot be undone with any present therapy, but at best can be managed somewhat (e.g. chemical castration in the case of pedophiles). It wasn't just crazy fundamentalists who thought that gays and drunks and meth-heads could be cured with a visit to a camp or rehab center or tent-show ministry -- psychologists were once convinced they too could turn all that around, for the right fee. Rehab is definitely still a thing, but no one who studies the statistics is all that hopeful about how well it works.

I suspect the way we go about screening out pedophiles from jobs where they might gain access to victims has also undergone a radical shift, partly due to the understanding that pedophilia is an actual identifiable disorder. Time will tell as to how productive that has been.

Replies: @MM, @PeterIke, @Art Deco

When did the so-called "social sciences" become elevated to the level of physics, chemistry, biology etc?

How about social science research that is common sense but completely ignored? Such as Putnam’s research showing the negative effects of diversity (and also DiversityTM).

A lot of Haidt’s findings are slightly counterintuitive - or at least not obvious. Not sure if there’s economic utility there.

Neurolinguistic programming, NLP?

Maybe it's intuitive and obvious, I dunno.... But it is real and it is used a lot.

Index investing theory is over 50 years old by now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Fama

Seriously?

People have been tolerant as all hell with these people. The problem they've got is that people keep judging them by the contents of their characters. Sorry, MiLKy, we gave it a shot.

"If sub-Saharans all had straight hair like the Indians they get their weaves from, and the sort of noble features you sometimes see on Ethiopians, but were in all other ways as problematic as they are now, would they still be as disliked?"

Yes.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time in close quarters with them. Just a guess.

Seems to be part of a whole genre romance of novels (a.k.a. pornography for women) all on the BW-WM theme.

Since the market for these books is ~100% female, and one suspects the market for this particular genre is about ~100% blackish, ...

Well, draw your own conclusions.

if he had played his cards right and been more careful with his words he could have had even the suburban women nodding along,
 

I did an Agree on ya,but I can't help but think your comment is an example of the consevative credo that victory can only be attained by never,ever,ever fighting back.
The time will come, someday,to speak out,but not now.
Race,sex,the Jews,the wars,immigration,all that stuff might upset the precious white suburban woman,so keep it on the DL.
Trumps a jerk,who screwed things up,but at least the SOB bloodied the other guys nose.
He brought these issues out.

Replies: @jb

Trump still thinks he's living in Nixon's America. He's trying to appeal to that type of Normie worldview which is dying off. But Trump's style shook USA dullards to their cores. The Stuff White People Like crowd, in between helping their daughter get mutilated by psycho doctors, were just outraged!

Sadly, Trump hired the kind of moderate Establishment clowns that got us in this mess.
However, Trump was still way better than any alternative. And hd has changed our culture whether he wanted to or not.

Replies: @HallParvey

"You may be against all racist hate (as any reasonable person should be),"

False premise. Racial preferences (what the fake word racism partially defines in its ever expanding umbrella) have nothing to do with hate. Preferring to live and work and do business with one's own kind isn't hate. In fact it's a fundamental component of basic survival.

Reasonable people should observe and understand the differences between different races, and be free to act accordingly. That is common sense, not hate.

Replies: @jb

You may be against all racist hate (as any reasonable person should be)
 

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I'm against racist hate.

Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @jb, @Corvinus

White nationalism isn’t the issue. That’s an ideology from yesteryear. I agree that a pro-white doesn’t need to be a WN. But you’re projecting things on Steve that he himself denies.

Look at the debate between Jared Taylor and Steve Sailer and see for yourself. As Jared Taylor noted, Sailer’s vision of citizenism is eerily similar to the basic approach of Marxism. That is, extinguish natural instincts and go for some artificial construct. Sailer rejects racial consciousness for whites. That ain’t being pro-white.

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