You write: "The war did not really result in the total destruction of the German nation."

My response: The war replaced the National Socialist regime with a Jewish-controlled Allied regime.

The Allies retained control of the German government. Few Americans are aware that no peace treaty concluding World War II was ever signed between Germany and the Allies. The German government from the end of World War II until today has always been a vassal government of the United States. Germany to this day has also always been militarily occupied by the United States. Tens of thousands of American soldiers are stationed in Germany not so much because of the strategic necessities of NATO, but because powerful interests want to make certain that Germany does not “go it alone.” American troops will stay in Germany for as long they are needed to maintain control of Germany. (Source: Schmidt, Hans, Hitler Boys in America: Re-Education Exposed, Pensacola, FL: Hans Schmidt Publications, 2003, pp. 6, 237).

Although Germany claims to be a democracy in which the will of the people counts, there is no realistic chance that a truly independent party could take power through the election process in Germany. The present German constitution imposed on Germany in 1949 by the victorious Allies ensures that a genuinely patriotic party having the true interests of the German people at heart will never come to power. Treaties later imposed upon Germany by the Allies also require that Germany accept even the most egregious occupation laws as still binding. The German government could not expel the American troops even if it wanted to. (Source: Ibid., pp. 6-7).

The brainwashing and reeducation of the Germans will probably not cease until the last U.S. soldier and CIA agent leave German soil. They are not stationed in Germany to safeguard the interests of the people of the United States or of Germany. Instead, they are there to suppress freedom of expression regarding important topics in Germany. The goal has been to destroy the great cultural nation of Germany through the falsification of history and the deliberate estrangement of German values in a controlled pseudo-democratic system. (Source: Ibid., pp. 277, 310).

The word “genocide” has been used repeatedly in the media and history books to describe the treatment of Jews by National Socialist Germany during World War II. However, as defined by Raphael Lemkin, Germany did not have a policy of genocide against the Jews. The Allies in Germany and many other countries now prosecute and imprison anyone who publicly states this fact. Gerard Menuhin writes that, between 1994 and 2004, there were 117,344 criminal proceedings for such thoughtcrime in Germany. (Source: Menuhin, Gerard, Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil, Washington, D.C.: The Barnes Review, 2015, p. 27).

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By the way, it’s nice how neo-Nazi revisionists avoid discussing Japanese war crimes. No wonder. Otherwise, their lied concept of WW2 will inevitably fall apart.
 

{As thousands of students gather this week for the finals of the National History Day contest in the US state of Maryland, one research project may stand out – not only as a sobering reminder of an infamous, often forgotten Japanese military unit, but also for America’s role in keeping its war crimes quiet.}



{When the group first encountered the story of Unit 731, they were stunned – not only by the atrocities committed, but also by the fact that they had never heard of it before.

“We get taught so much about the Holocaust and World War II in general. We hear about the Nazis, but we never hear about the Japanese. What did the Japanese do?” Pham said during an interview with the Post last week.

To learn more, Pham, Monger, Nicole Gabauer and Masara Algburi spent up to 10 hours a day over three months combing through thousands of pages of archived journals, books and other primary source materials. They even submitted Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the US government for previously undisclosed information.

Their research revealed not just the horror of Unit 731’s experiments, but also the unsettling aftermath: how the US government granted immunity to its scientists in exchange for their biological warfare data.

To monopolise the scientific information gained from vivisections and other barbarous experiments performed on living humans, the US government struck a deal: none of the key figures would be prosecuted during the Tokyo War Crimes Trials.}



{Many of the scientists from the unit were released after the war and were never held accountable. Some went into academia, including Shiro Ishii, the founder of Unit 731, who became a professor. Others became public figures, took high-ranking government positions, or profited from pharmaceutical careers, according to Gabauer and Pham.

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“Why, you may be asking, do events that occurred nearly a century ago halfway across the world matter to Americans? Because in the US and in Japan, the atrocities in the Pacific Theatre have been heavily filtered by the government, in schools and in the media – and because there are still people who deny these atrocities ever happened,” Chan said.}



{Pham noted one of the most ironic aspects of Unit 731: the extensive experiments conducted there between 1936 and 1945, including vivisections, frostbite testing and the deliberate infection of prisoners with plague, cholera, anthrax and typhus, provided a large body of biological data.}



{The students said they were also struck by how Japan reshaped its global image – from wartime aggressor to apologetic victim – through a post-war cultural shift and American complicity in the cover-up, Pham said.

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..... “We see so many stories about how Japan was nuked and many people died, but we do not hear the story that came before that – what did Japan do?” she said.

Gabauer said the project changed how she viewed international relations, revealing how even morally indefensible actions could be manipulated or covered up when powerful countries see strategic value in doing so. “It is possible that some things can be twisted in a way for people to gain a benefit, even with a morally incorrect thing,” she said.}



{The girls said their documentary surprised many of their fellow contestants and even some judges who had no prior knowledge of Unit 731. They also received a lot of support in making the documentary.}





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Visitors look at depiction of human experiments at the Unit 731 museum in Harbin, in northeast China’s Heilongjiang province. The facility was built to conduct research into germ warfare, weapons capabilities and the limits of the human body, rather than for mass extermination. Photo: AFP
Ling Xinin Ohio
Published: 9:00am, 10 Jun 2025

As thousands of students gather this week for the finals of the National History Day contest in the US state of Maryland, one research project may stand out – not only as a sobering reminder of an infamous, often forgotten Japanese military unit, but also for America’s role in keeping its war crimes quiet.

The project, a documentary produced by four students from a New Mexico high school, is an investigation of Unit 731 – a secret group that carried out unspeakable experiments on people in China and other parts of Asia during World War II.

The girls from Albuquerque School of Excellence, who advanced to the national contest after placing first at the state level, have joined about 3,000 students from across the country and US territories to showcase their months-long research results.

At one of the country’s top academic competitions – aimed at deepening understanding of the past and promoting critical thinking – their project not only revisits a dark corner of wartime history but also questions how that history is taught in US schools today.

A visitor walks through the ruins of one of Japan’s germ warfare facilities during WWII in China’s northeastern city of Harbin in 2014. Photo: Xinhua

A visitor walks through the ruins of one of Japan’s germ warfare facilities during WWII in China’s northeastern city of Harbin in 2014. Photo: Xinhua

Team member Tam Pham recalled that the idea for the project began in a college-prep seminar course, where students were expected to choose and research a topic. Her classmate Smriti Monger stumbled upon a webpage titled “Pacific Ocean Atrocities”.

When the group first encountered the story of Unit 731, they were stunned – not only by the atrocities committed, but also by the fact that they had never heard of it before.

“We get taught so much about the Holocaust and World War II in general. We hear about the Nazis, but we never hear about the Japanese. What did the Japanese do?” Pham said during an interview with the Post last week.

To learn more, Pham, Monger, Nicole Gabauer and Masara Algburi spent up to 10 hours a day over three months combing through thousands of pages of archived journals, books and other primary source materials. They even submitted Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the US government for previously undisclosed information.

Their research revealed not just the horror of Unit 731’s experiments, but also the unsettling aftermath: how the US government granted immunity to its scientists in exchange for their biological warfare data.

To monopolise the scientific information gained from vivisections and other barbarous experiments performed on living humans, the US government struck a deal: none of the key figures would be prosecuted during the Tokyo War Crimes Trials.

“It was interesting and odd to see – when Unit 731 was tried – even though all these countries and people knew about it, they used the information and data from those experiments for their own gain, and made sure Unit 731 stayed hidden globally,” Gabauer said.

Many of the scientists from the unit were released after the war and were never held accountable. Some went into academia, including Shiro Ishii, the founder of Unit 731, who became a professor. Others became public figures, took high-ranking government positions, or profited from pharmaceutical careers, according to Gabauer and Pham.

Jenny Chan, director at Pacific Atrocities Education, a California-based non-profit, said it was incredibly inspiring to see young students taking the initiative to uncover and share the stories of lesser-known war crimes committed by the Imperial Japanese Army during World War II.

“Why, you may be asking, do events that occurred nearly a century ago halfway across the world matter to Americans? Because in the US and in Japan, the atrocities in the Pacific Theatre have been heavily filtered by the government, in schools and in the media – and because there are still people who deny these atrocities ever happened,” Chan said.

This lack of acknowledgement, she added, has caused a permanent rift in relations between Japan, China and Korea, and made it harder for survivors and their descendants to cope with the lingering trauma.

“The students’ dedication not only honours the victims, but also reminds us of the importance of remembering history in its fullest context,” she said. “We must continue supporting the next generation of historians, researchers and storytellers who are committed to shedding light on the past.”

New Mexico was not the only state where Japan’s wartime atrocities have been downplayed or overlooked. In some high school history classes in states like Ohio, educators dedicate disproportionately little time to Japan’s role and conduct during the war compared with Nazi Germany.

In one example, a history teacher identified Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Joseph Stalin as the three leaders responsible for the highest number of deaths during the war, omitting Imperial Japan. Historians have estimated the army of Imperial Japan caused 10 to 15 million civilian deaths, second only to Nazi Germany’s toll of around 17 million.

Pham noted one of the most ironic aspects of Unit 731: the extensive experiments conducted there between 1936 and 1945, including vivisections, frostbite testing and the deliberate infection of prisoners with plague, cholera, anthrax and typhus, provided a large body of biological data.

Japanese troops from Unit 731 conduct a frostbite experiment on a live Chinese person on a stretcher in Harbin, in Heilongjiang province in 1941 during World War II. Photo: Reuters

Japanese troops from Unit 731 conduct a frostbite experiment on a live Chinese person on a stretcher in Harbin, in Heilongjiang province in 1941 during World War II. Photo: Reuters

While deeply unethical, the findings were believed to have informed early Cold War biodefence research and accelerated vaccine development, including plague and anthrax vaccines.

The students said they were also struck by how Japan reshaped its global image – from wartime aggressor to apologetic victim – through a post-war cultural shift and American complicity in the cover-up, Pham said.

The word can be used to describe objects, people, animals and styles that possess childlike, gentle and charming features

Over decades, public campaigns like Cool Japan, and the global rise of anime and kawaii – an aesthetic that promotes objects, people, animals and styles that possess cute and gentle features – have softened memories of Japan’s military past. “We see so many stories about how Japan was nuked and many people died, but we do not hear the story that came before that – what did Japan do?” she said.

Gabauer said the project changed how she viewed international relations, revealing how even morally indefensible actions could be manipulated or covered up when powerful countries see strategic value in doing so. “It is possible that some things can be twisted in a way for people to gain a benefit, even with a morally incorrect thing,” she said.

The project also changed how the group saw the world. “We are in New Mexico. In the United States, we often stay in our own demographic – we put ourselves in bubbles and only see what’s around you,” Pham said. “This project shifted our perspective and helped us see the world more broadly.”

The girls said their documentary surprised many of their fellow contestants and even some judges who had no prior knowledge of Unit 731. They also received a lot of support in making the documentary.
“Most of what we are doing is untold, and just spreading that legacy gives people more knowledge about it,” Gabauer said. “It changes their perspectives on how countries have treated each other – especially with that big dilemma of strength versus justice.”

Now, as they present their work on a national platform, the team is once again ready to challenge assumptions – and pull a buried chapter of history from the shadows into the light.

 

Replies: @Eternal Slav

I just realized something very important, today. Were it not for Russia and Germany, the whole English speaking world would be complaining about FRANCE! FRANCE, rather than Russia or Germany, would be the main Continental menace. And, there would be a whole industry to demonize the FRENCH people rather than either the Russian or the German people.

After all, the Russians and Germans-- however one may hate them-- they were instrumental in the defeat of Napoleon's own evil empire. Just imagine, in this parallel history, Poles and Ukrainians and Serbians all complaining about their French overlords. And Great Britain would draw Amerika into a War against the still existent French Empire. The war would last to today.

Just something to consider.

This all presupposes that the Germans and the Japanese were really that worse, or different, than any other Great Power at the time.

So the murder of tens of thousands of German expatriates in Poland was OK with you? Good to know.

FYI the German government appealed to Britain to help in stopping this massacre; Germany appealed to Britain for help because of the ludicrous guarantee Britain had extended to Poland, and Germany did not want to give Britain any excuse for starting hostilities.

But Britain was so intent of war with Germany (at the behest of the USA Roosevelt) that it declined to assist Germany in stopping this massacre.

Britain and USA wanted war with Germany at any cost, primarily due to Jewish banking interests in London and Wall Street. Britain had the additional hope of stopping German export goods from eating Britain's lunch.

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @Patrick McNally, @wojtek

The way you argue makes no sense.
"unprepared for war"
France had a huge army with a lot of reservists that could be mobilised.
The UK had its intervention forces, kind of like today.
The problem with warfare in general is that people / contries tend to prepare for the last war.
We can see both of this problems today in the russian-ukrainian conflict.
When i was in the army like 15 years ago the organic anti air company in my brigade was eliminated while some NCOs in their freetime played with civilian mini drones in and in front of the barracks, that already back then could have been weaponised.

You wrote "Only Hitler wanted war in 1939 and had offensive plans."
That`s easily proven as factual incorrect.
Even the US goverment under Franklin D. Roosevelt wanted war in 1939 and there are people who have the opinion that the "new deal" was kind of coup/revolution/ taking over of the US as well.
Their plan was this to get into a war in asia or europe (swiched in between but i don`t remember the timeline, certainly before the official start of ww2) because they saw it as the only way to get out of the economic crisis the US still was in.
The sowjets had offensive plans as we can see when they marched into poland and supposedly also had them later (bigger discussion, done already or still going on in multible places).
France and the UK had offensive plans as well. I recommend you to read up on the Venlo incident and why the dutch intelligence guy involved resigned.
Were they slower than the germans?
Well france invaded german territory in the Saar Offensive before germany invaded anything in the west.
The big problem france had was its limited way to communicate. By far not enough radios, in fact their armored platoons or even companies communicated with flags and only the leader had a radio to the neyt higher level while in the german army i think every tank had a radio.
This is the reason why the french army TODAY is so invested in modern, save communication lines and the disruption of these for others.
I don`t think they were that slow considering when you look at how long the US and other troops build up took before they invaded iraq.
The whole airforce doctrine of the UK, with the area bombing directive, dehousing paper and so on is offenive and that is from the late 1920s and the UK build its airforce up on this.
Poland had interest in war and offensive plans as well. As stated by me diplomatic exchanges of poles with france and the UK were made public by the german side and people named in it, who wrote/participated in this exchanges described them as genue?
Not to forget that all the actors i listed, including poland played its role in the spanish civil war (mostly arms shipments but also volunteers and advisers), which ended April 1, 1939.
Have you looked at the sources, in war and post war sources for this that i gave you or others or is your stance just "not true" because "feelings"?

You wrote "Therefore, much of the provocations on Polish-German border in 1939 were German provocations."
What do you mean by "Therefore"?
You haven`t even set a case.

The Polish Foreign Minister, as listed (august 15,1939) is on record saying that they will fight mostly on german territory and attack from day 1 when french and uk spoke to them about defenses.
Not to forget that poland tried to get france and the uk to attack germany in 1930, 1933 or something like that (i`d have to look the date up).
No country can mobilise fully without serious implications on its own economic situation, not to forget that a general mobilisation at that time was equated to a declaration of war.
Harvest time on europe for food generally starts around early august. I don`t know how the food supply situation was in poland in 1939 but my guess is in any case it`s better to get another harvest in than not.
“provocation” is not self defense if you deliberatly target civilian targets.
Also ask the UN, americans, the polish goverment or anyone what their take is on using state of the art anti aircraft weapons to shoot at civilian planes that belong to a other country and that was prior to august 24, 1939.
There were also a lot more "provocations" from before that date. This stuff even made it in front of the league of nations.

You wrote that the original german plan was to attack august 24, 1939.
Was it august 24, 1939 or was it august 26, 1939 when the main attack wasn`t done and a small german commando group attacked the Jablunka Pass: Railway Station & tunnel as targets?
This commandos entered from the slowakian border 0.30 a.m. and were back over the slowakian border 13.30 hours. I don`t think they were in uniform and i don`t know how many of them were german or could be identified as german military at that time.
Apart from that i don`t know how much the poles knew back then about the planned german attack.
Just knowing about this now doesn`t mean it was known back then and who knew it when.

Replies: @fufu, @Patrick McNally

Poor baby! No one likes you, so sad.

You throw around the word 'moral' and 'morality' with abandon. In an earlier post above I asked you politely to define your meaning of those words.

Methinks that your definition and the dictionary's definition thereof do not coincide. Why do I think so? Because any twit who writes that the USSR is/was more moral than any other country of your choice, has very serious mental problems.

Do you ever read and try to understand your scribbles you publish here? Or are you just another would-be copy and paste artist?

You write: "No, it does not meet the definition of genocide. Merely killing civilians and cruel war policies are not genocide."

My response: The word “genocide” was first used in 1944 by the Polish Jew Raphael Lemkin in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.

Lemkin wrote regarding his invented word “genocide”:

“By ‘genocide’ we mean the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group. This new word, coined by the author to denote an old practice in its modern development, is made from the ancient Greek word genos (race, tribe) and the Latin cide (killing), thus corresponding in its formation to such words as tyrannicide, homocide [sic], infanticide, etc.” (Source: Lemkin, Raphael, Axis Rule in Occupied Europe: Laws of Occupation, Analysis of Government, Proposals for Redress, Washington, D.C.: Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, 1944, p. 79).

Most people today use this narrow definition and define the word “genocide” as the deliberate destruction of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. However, Lemkin intended the word “genocide” to have a much broader meaning. Lemkin stated: “Genocide has two phases: one, destruction of the national pattern of the oppressed group; the other, the imposition of the national pattern of the oppressor.” (Source: Ibid.).

Raphael Lemkin’s invented word “genocide” appropriately applies to the Allied treatment of Germans. The Allies conspired to instigate a war that resulted in the complete destruction of the German nation. The Allies then murdered an estimated total of over 9 million Germans after the war while also destroying German culture. The Jewish-controlled Allied nations then forcibly replaced the German government and culture with their own government, culture, and version of historical events.

Upon Germany’s unconditional surrender in May 1945, the Allies initiated a highly successful campaign to brainwash Germans and to make them feel guilty about their actions during the war. The Allied perpetual campaign of negative publicity has prevented an objective analysis of Germany’s involvement in the war. The fact that the Allies forced Germany into World War II has been almost totally removed from public discussion.

Friedrich Grimm, a renowned German authority on international law, was shown samples of new leaflets printed soon after the war in German to be distributed by the Allies throughout Germany. Describing German war crimes, the leaflets were the first step in the reeducation program designed for Germany. Grimm suggested to an Allied officer that since the war was over, it was time to stop the libel. The Allied officer replied: “Why no, we’re just getting started. We’ll continue this atrocity campaign, we’ll increase it till no one will want to hear a good word about the Germans anymore, till whatever sympathy there is for you in other countries is completely destroyed, and until the Germans themselves become so mixed up they won’t know what they’re doing!” (Source: Tedor, Richard, Hitler’s Revolution, Chicago: 2013, p. 263).

Guilt pervades Germany as a result of this Allied propaganda campaign. German guilt is so powerful that it has caused the German government to make enormous reparations and offer humble apologies to the Allies, while ignoring the atrocities committed by the Allies against Germans after the war. Millions of German expellees have paid reparations to survivors of the German concentration camps even though these German expellees had their land and personal possessions stolen from them. German schoolchildren are repeatedly taught about crimes committed by National Socialist Germany, with little or nothing ever taught about their ancestors’ tragic sufferings after the war. (Source: Bacque, James, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950, 2nd edition, Vancouver, British Columbia: Talonbooks, 2007, pp. 175-177).

It is against the law in present-day Germany to praise the Third Reich in any form or manner. The showing of a swastika is a criminal offense in Germany. German National Socialists who acted admirably during World War II cannot be praised, and many honorable Germans have had their graves desecrated. (Source: Schmidt, Hans, Hitler Boys in America: Re-Education Exposed, Pensacola, FL: Hans Schmidt Publications, 2003, p. 261).

Germar Rudolf, who spent 44 months in jail in Germany for publicly disputing the official Holocaust narrative, writes:

“Branded with a perpetual guilt complex, the once-proud German nation has turned into a featureless mass of pathetic, self-flagellating individuals. They accept that all which was done to them during and after the war—carpet bombing, mass murder of ‘disarmed enemy forces,’ mass deportations to Siberia, ethnic cleansing, starvation policies, dismantling of Germany’s industrial equipment, robbery of its patents—was a just punishment for all the crimes allegedly committed during the war, in particular during the so-called Holocaust.” (Source: Rudolf, Germar, Nazi Gas Chambers: The Roots of the Story, London: Academic Research Media Review Education Group LTD, 2025, p. 113).

You ask: "And next, why do you keep avoiding the question of the Armenian Holocaust? Do you also deny the Armenian Holocaust?"

My response: I have not studied this subject in detail, so I will not comment on it.

Replies: @Eternal Slav

Eternal Slave writes:

you recognize the Armenian Holocaust as a fact, then what is the difference between the Armenian Holocaust and the Jewish Holocaust in terms of evidence?
Aren’t both confirmed with equal clarity?
 

WHY do you conflate the Armenian tragedy with the Holohoax? (ie: seeing as THERE IS NO FORENSIC EVIDENCE - not even a scintilla of it - TO INDICATE THAT THERE WAS ANY SYSTEMATIC MASS EXTERMINATION OF JEWS DURING WWII?
There is NO PROOF that gas chambers for killing humans existed at ANY of the German supervised work camps.
There is NO PROOF that a single person (Jewish or otherwise), was killed using the pesticide Zyklon B.
 

Summary: Only a fool or an indoctrinated-from-birth Jew lacking in critical thinking skills would suggest that the alleged systematic mass extermination of Jews during WWII was anything other than a hoax.
Which of these categories do you fit into Mr Slave?
 

You write: "The above is not about an extermination policy with the aim of exterminating an entire nation."

My response: The Allies mass murdered approximately 9 million Germans after World War II. As defined by Polish Jew Raphael Lemkin, who invented the word "genocide," the Allies conducted a program of genocide against the German people.

You write: "You simply cannot understand this. The Jewish Holocaust is a clearly proven fact (confessions of the Nazis themselves before, during and after the war, thousands of eyewitnesses, documents, etc.)."

My response: The official Jewish Holocaust narrative is a fraud. You can read Chapter Eight of my book Germany's War on this website for more detailed information.

Replies: @Eternal Slav

The Jewish Holocaust is a clearly proven fact (confessions of the Nazis themselves before, during and after the war, thousands of eyewitnesses, documents, etc.).

There are no such documents. IRT confessions of Nazis after the war, confession made due to torture are worthless.

You have heard of the expression: "Actions speak louder than words?"

Britain and USA are the greatest war mongers of modern times and did their damnedest to destroy Germany. Now they are egging on Israel to destroy Iran.

Furthermore, C & R had their spokespeople, you have heard of "Germany Must Perish" and other genocidal pearls of wisdom such as "There are 20 million too many Germans!"

Your bosom pal Stalin was as thick as thieves with these creeps, after all he started the genocidal action by murdering 20 or 30 million of his own nationals.

Old German proverb: "Jeder kehre vor seiner Tuer". Ie clean up your act before you accuse others.

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @aletheia, @Patrick McNally

You write: "I’m still waiting for those quotes from Roosevelt and Churchill where they call for the extermination of Germans. So far, the only real calls for the extermination of other nations have come from Germans."

My response: My comment #632 on this discussion thread documents that the official Holocaust narrative is fictional. The Germans did not have a mass extermination program of the Jews during World War II.

My comments #632, 641, and 660 on this discussion thread document that the quotes you cite do not prove a German policy of mass extermination of the Jews.

As briefly discussed in comment #643 on this discussion thread, it was the Allies who had a policy of mass murdering Germans during and after World War II. The following are some Allied policies that resulted in the mass murder of Germans:

1) A peaceful settlement of the war was impossible after the announcement of the Allied policy of unconditional surrender at a press conference in Casablanca on January 24, 1943. The Allied policy of unconditional surrender ensured that the war would be fought to its bitter end. Maurice Hankey, an experienced British statesman, summed up the effect of the unconditional surrender policy as follows:

“It embittered the war, rendered inevitable a fight to the finish, banged the door to the possibility of either side offering terms or opening up negotiations, gave the Germans and the Japanese the courage of despair, strengthened Hitler’s position as Germany’s ‘only hope,’ aided Goebbels’s propaganda, and made inevitable the Normandy landing and the subsequent terribly exhausting and destructive advance through North France, Belgium, Luxemburg, Holland and Germany. The lengthening of the war enabled Stalin to occupy the whole of Eastern Europe, to ring down the iron curtain and so to realize at one swoop a large installment of his avowed aims against so-called capitalism, in which he includes social democracy…Not only the enemy countries, but nearly all countries were bled white by this policy, which has left us all, except the United States of America, impoverished and in dire straits. Unfortunately, also, these policies, so contrary to the spirit of the Sermon on the Mount, did nothing to strengthen the moral position of the Allies.” (Source: Hankey, Maurice Pascal Alers, Politics, Trials and Errors, Chicago: Regnery, 1950, pp. 125-126).

Numerous other historians and political leaders have stated that Great Britain and the United States made it impossible for Germany to reach a peaceful resolution to the war. It is widely acknowledged that Hitler did not want a war with either Great Britain or the United States. Instead, Great Britain and the United States wanted war with Germany. In this regard, Rep. Hamilton Fish stated:

“If Roosevelt and Churchill had really wished to deliver the world from the menace of totalitarianism, they had their God-given opportunity on June 22, 1941. England could have withdrawn from the war and made peace with Hitler on the most favorable terms. Hitler had no designs whatever on the United States, so we would not have been endangered by this turn of events. Then Hitler and Stalin would have fought each other into exhaustion. This is exactly what the Baldwin-Chamberlain foreign policy had originally envisaged. Mr. Truman, then a senator, strongly supported this policy, as did Senator Vandenberg and many others. It would have left the United States and England dominant powers in the world, and they might have kept it a predominately free world.” (Source: Fish, Hamilton, FDR The Other Side of the Coin: How We Were Tricked into World War II, New York: Vantage Press, 1976, p. 115).

2) Churchill never once attempted to make peace with Germany. In a January 1, 1944, letter to Stalin, Churchill said: “We never thought of peace, not even in that year when we were completely isolated and could have made peace without serious detriment to the British Empire, and extensively at your cost. Why should we think of it now, when victory approaches for the three of us?” (Source: Walendy, Udo, The Methods of Reeducation, Vlotho/Weser, Germany: Verlag für Volkstum und Zeitgeschichtsforschung, 1979, p. 3).

3) Even leaders of the German resistance movement discovered that the Allied policy of unconditional surrender would not change with Hitler dead. On July 18, 1944, Otto John returned from fruitless negotiations with Allied representatives in Madrid and informed his fellow plotters that unconditional surrender would be in place even if they succeeded in killing Hitler.

Dr. Eugen Gerstenmaier, a former conspirator and president of the West German Parliament after the war, stated in a 1975 interview: “What we in the German resistance during the war did not want to see, we learned in full measure afterward; that this war was ultimately not waged against Hitler, but against Germany.” (Source: Tedor, Richard, Hitler’s Revolution, Chicago: 2013, p. 257).

4) Great Britain began to violate the essential rule of civilized warfare that hostilities must be limited to the combatant forces. On May 11, 1940, British bombers began to attack the industrial areas of Germany. The British government adopted a new definition of military objectives so that this term included any building which in any way contributed, directly or indirectly, to the war effort of the enemy. On December 16, 1940, a moonlight raid by 134 British planes took place on Mannheim designed “to concentrate the maximum amount of damage in the center of the town.” Great Britain abandoned all pretense of attacking military, industrial, or any other particular target with this raid. (Source: Veale, Frederick J. P., Advance to Barbarism, Newport Beach, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1993, pp. 182-183).

On March 28, 1942, the British air offensive against Germany initiated Jewish physicist Frederick Lindemann’s bombing plan. (Source: https://www.oxfordchabad.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/457389/jewish/Oxford-Jewish-Personalities.htm).

The Lindemann Plan, which continued with undiminished ferocity until the end of the war, concentrated on bombing German working-class houses. The British bombing during this period was simple terror bombing designed to shatter the morale of the German civilian population and thereby generate an inclination to surrender. The bombing focused on working-class houses built close together because Professor Lindemann maintained that a higher percentage of bloodshed per ton of explosives dropped could be expected as opposed to bombing higher class houses surrounded by large yards and gardens. (Source: Veale, Frederick J. P., Advance to Barbarism, Newport Beach, CA: Institute for Historical Review, pp. 184-185).

The climax of the British bombing offensive under the Lindemann Plan was reached on the night of February 13, 1945, when a massive bombing raid was directed against Dresden. The population of Dresden was swollen by a horde of terrified German women and children running from the advancing Soviet army. No one will ever know exactly how many people died in the bombing of Dresden but estimates of 250,000 civilian deaths appear to be reasonable. The bombing of Dresden served little military purpose; it was designed primarily to terrify the German civilian population and break their will to continue the war. (Source: Ibid., pp. 185-186, 192-193).

A horrifying aspect of the Dresden terror bombings occurred during the daylight hours of Feb. 14, 1945. On this day low-flying American fighters machine-gunned helpless Germans as they rushed toward the Elbe River in a desperate attempt to escape the inferno. Since Dresden had no air defense, the German civilians were easy targets. (Source: Bird, Vivian, “An Examination of British War Crimes During World War II,” The Barnes Review, Vol. VI, No. 6, Nov. /Dec. 2000, p. 59. See also McKee, Alexander, Dresden 1945: The Devil’s Tinderbox, New York: E.P. Dutton, Inc., 1984, pp. 219-224).

5) The Western Allies deliberately murdered approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of starvation, exposure, and illness. This Allied atrocity was first publicly exposed in 1989 in the book Other Losses by James Bacque.

6) One of the great tragedies of the 20th century was the forced expulsion of ethnic Germans from their homes after the end of World War II. The Allies carried out the largest forced population transfer—and perhaps the greatest single movement of people—in human history. A minimum of 12 million and possibly as many as 18.1 million Germans were driven from their homes because of their ethnic background. Probably 2.1 million or more of these German expellees, mostly women and children, died in what was supposed to be an “orderly and humane” expulsion. (Source: Dietrich, John, The Morgenthau Plan: Soviet Influence on American Postwar Policy, New York: Algora Publishing, 2002, p. 137).

The fate of the German expellees has been ignored in most universities and high schools. The extreme hardships and suffering the expellees experienced have been pushed aside, if not totally forgotten. People have thus been deprived of an important history lesson: mass expulsions are almost invariably unjust and inhumane. American historian R. M. Douglas writes:

“The most important lesson of the expulsion of the Germans, then, is that if these operations cannot be carried out under circumstances in which brutality, injustice, and needless suffering are inevitable, they cannot be carried out at all. A firm appreciation of this truth, and a determination to be guided by it at all times and in every situation, however enticing the alternative may momentarily seem, is the most appropriate memorial that can be erected to this tragic, unnecessary, and, we must resolve, never to be repeated episode in Europe’s and the world’s recent history.” (Source: Douglas, R. M., Orderly and Humane: The Expulsion of the Germans after the Second World War, New Haven & London: Yale University Press, 2012, p. 374).

7) National Socialist propaganda had repeatedly warned of the dire consequences of unconditional surrender to the Allies. In Germany as a whole it is estimated that approximately 2 million German women were raped in the aftermath of the Second World War. This represents more rapes against a defeated enemy than any other war in history. (Source: Lowe, Keith, Savage Continent: Europe in the Aftermath of World War II, New York: St. Martin’s Press, 2012, pp. 51, 55).

8) Capt. Albert R. Behnke, a U.S. Navy medical doctor, stated in regard to Germany: “From 1945 to the middle of 1948 one saw the probable collapse, disintegration and destruction of a whole nation…Germany was subject to physical and psychic trauma unparalleled in history.” Behnke concluded that the Germans under the Allies had fared much worse than the Dutch under the Germans, and for far longer. (Source: Behnke, Capt. Albert R., USN, MC, “Physiological and Psychological Factors in Individual and Group Survival,” June 1958 (Behnke Papers, Box 1, HIA). Quoted in Bacque, James, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950, 2nd edition, Vancouver, British Columbia: Talonbooks, 2007, p. 89).

Even world-famous German opponents of Hitler such as Martin Niemöller and his family suffered extreme hardships after the war. Niemöller told his friend Pastor Ewart Turner that if things didn’t improve, “I should prefer to be back in my cell number 31 at Dachau.” Niemöller blamed “the followers of the Morgenthau Plan” who had moved their “headquarters from Washington to the American zone.” (Source: Hockenos, Matthew D., Then They Came for Me: Martin Niemöller, the Pastor Who Defied the Nazis, New York: Basic Books, pp. 204, 212).

9) An estimated 5.7 million Germans already residing in Germany died from the starvation policies implemented by the Allies. James Bacque detailed how this 5.7 million death total is calculated:

“The population of all occupied Germany in October 1946 was 65,000,000, according to the census prepared under the ACC. The returning prisoners who were added to the population in the period October 1946-September 1950 numbered 2,600,000 (rounded), according to records in the archives of the four principal Allies. Births according to the official German statistical agency, Statistisches Bundesamt, added another 4,176,430 newcomers to Germany. The expellees arriving totaled 6,000,000. Thus, the total population in 1950 before losses would have been 77,776,430, according to the Allies themselves. Deaths officially recorded in the period 1946-50 were 3,235,539, according to the UN Yearbook and the German government. Emigration was about 600,000, according to the German government. Thus, the population found should have been 73,940,891. But the census of 1950 done by the German government under Allied supervision found only 68,230,796. There was a shortage of 5,710,095 people, according to the official Allied figures (rounded to 5,700,000).” (Source: Bacque, James, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950, 2nd edition, Vancouver, British Columbia: Talonbooks, 2007, pp. 115-116).

Bacque’s calculations have been confirmed by Dr. Anthony B. Miller, who is a world-famous epidemiologist and head of the Department of Preventive Medicine and Biostatistics at the University of Toronto. Miller read the whole work, including the documents, and checked the statistics, which he says “confirm the validity of [Bacque’s] calculations.” Miller states: “These deaths appear to have resulted, directly or indirectly, from the semi-starvation food rations that were all that were available to the majority of the German population during this time period.” (Source: Ibid., pp. xvii-xviii).

There is more that I could write on this subject. This is enough for now.

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And the Jewish Soviet Union is not Russia. It was an internationalist communist state (totalitarian union of Soviet republics), where Russians were second-class citizens, oppressed by non-Russian peoples (Jews, Kazakhs, Chechens, etc.).

Totally ridiculous.

The Red Army was primarily composed of Slavic Russians and they put the bayonet into anyone that resisted. Ukraine was forced into the USSR by Russian Slavs with guns. It wasn't Jews that crossed the border and went on a killing spree.

Those Slavs could have chosen to back the White Army. They chose to back Lenin.

The Russian people fell for the utopian plans of Marx. Communism tapped into Slavic resentment. It was going to push them ahead of the West. Marx even said that Russians were used to submitting to the Tsar. He viewed them as submissive to authority and was more concerned with the Germans rebelling.

You write: "How many Germans were killed during the war (which Germany itself caused) is irrelevant."

My response: Germany was not primarily responsible for starting World War II. I document this in Chapters One, Two, Three, and Four of my book Germany's War, which you can read for free on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

You write: "The essential point in this question is that none of the Allied world leaders called for any extermination of Germans. Nor Roosevelt, nor Churchill, and nor even the communist totalitarian dictator Stalin. On the contrary, the Nazis, led by Hitler, repeatedly expressed their plans to exterminate the Jews (and not only them) in their speeches and records. And that’s the difference."

My response: Neither Hitler nor Himmler ever issued an order to exterminate Europe's Jews.

The lack of a written order from Hitler to exterminate Europe’s Jews has created major problems for supporters of the official “Holocaust” narrative. British historian David Irving was asked at the 1988 Ernst Zündel trial: Do you consider it likely that an enterprise of the magnitude of the extermination of the Jews of Europe could be accomplished by the people [Germans] knowing the way they conducted business from their documents without the existence of explicit orders and plans?

David Irving testified:

“Not only without existence of orders, but also without the existence of any written reference to it. I have to say that the German wartime civil servant was basically a cowardly animal and he would not do something that he considered to be criminal without getting a document clearing himself. He would get his superior to write a letter saying, ‘On the Führer’s orders, we are doing the following,’ which is why there are letters showing Himmler saying, ‘On the Führer’s orders, we are deporting the Jews.’ Which was the extent of the Führer’s orders and which was the extent, to my mind, of the final solution. So, the documents don’t exist where you expect to find them. Hitler’s other crimes, the documents are there: the euthanasia order, the order to kill British commandos, the orders to lynch American airmen, the orders for the killing of the male population of Stalingrad if ever they occupied it. Hitler’s other crimes, simple crimes, the documents are there where you expect to find them. And yet this biggest crime of all, there is no document…I think there would definitely have had to be orders and these orders would have been referred to in countless files of different ministerial bodies. So, it would have been impossible for these documents to have been destroyed at the end of the war. There would always be carbon copies somewhere.” (Source: Kulaszka, Barbara, (ed.), Did Six Million Really Die: Report of Evidence in the Canadian “False News” Trial of Ernst Zündel, Toronto: Samisdat Publishers Ltd., 1992, p. 370).

Many defenders of the Holocaust story claim that the Wannsee conference held on January 20, 1942, was the start of a program to systematically exterminate Europe’s Jews. The documentary evidence of this meeting shows that no extermination program existed; instead, the German policy was to evacuate the Jews to the East. Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer has declared, “The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at.” (Source: Canadian Jewish News, Toronto, Jan. 30, 1992, p. 8).

Likewise, Israeli Holocaust historian Leni Yahil has stated regarding the Wannsee conference, “[I]t is often assumed that the decision to launch the Final Solution was taken on this occasion, but this is not so.…” (Source: Yahil, Leni, The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945, Oxford University Press, 1990, p. 312).

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You write: "By the way, no Allied world leader ever called for the extermination of Germans. Nor Roosevelt, nor Churchill, nor Stalin."

My response: The Allies mass murdered approximately 9 million Germans after World War II.

I document this fact in Chapters Five, Six, and Seven of my book Germany's War. You can read these three chapters for free on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Eternal Slav

You write: "How does Hitler and Goebbels’s admission above about the plan to exterminate the Jews and the implementation of this plan fit into your distortion of historical facts? The above clearly speaks of a plan to exterminate the Jews and later of putting this plan into practice. There is no other way to interpret it."

My response: Actually, there is another way to interpret it.

As I write in my comment #632 on this discussion thread, defenders of the Holocaust story such as yourself inevitably quote speeches from Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, and Heinrich Himmler or writings from Hitler, Goebbels, and Hans Frank to prove that Germany had an extermination program against Jews during the war. Utterances by Hitler such as “…The world war is here, the annihilation of Jewry must be the necessary consequence” and “[N]ow that the German people have lost another 160,000 dead on the Eastern Front, the originators of this bloody conflict will have to pay for it with their lives” are quoted to prove that Germany had a program to exterminate European Jewry.

In this regard, it should be noted that bloodthirsty and inflammatory statements were also made by the Allies during the war. In a war in which many millions of people were killed, emotions ran high and highly provocative and heated statements were made by supposedly responsible people on both sides of the war. Such statements do not prove that Germany had a program of extermination against the Jews. Instead, these statements reflect the German leaders’ belief that world Jewry had started World War II and must be defeated.

It should also be noted that defenders of the Holocaust story claim that the Germans took extreme measures to preserve the secrecy of their extermination program. This is why no one has ever found an order, plan, budget, or organization by Germany to exterminate European Jewry. It is untenable and absurd to think that German leaders would be stupid enough to make written and public statements about their genocide of European Jewry when they were taking extreme measures to hide their extermination of the Jews.

You write: "The Jewish Holocaust was a real event, admitted by the Nazis themselves. And this is just the tip of the iceberg of evidence confirming the Nazi genocide of the Jews."

My response: Let’s look at some of the evidence regarding the so-called Holocaust:

1) No German written order to execute large numbers of Jews;

2) Nothing remotely resembling a genuine homicidal gas chamber in any of the German camps;

3) Strong scientific evidence indicating that the alleged homicidal gas chambers were never used to execute people;

4) No pro-Holocaust witnesses able to withstand cross-examination in a legitimate court of law;

5) Torturing German witnesses such as Rudolf Höss into making confessions. Murdering Germans such as Richard Baer to prevent him from testifying that there were no homicidal gas chambers at the Auschwitz Main Camp;

6) Allied aerial photographs that do not show evidence of the mass murder of Hungarian Jews at Birkenau in May of 1944;

7) The enactment of laws in many countries making it a criminal offense to contest any aspect of the official Holocaust story;

8) No autopsies from American Dr. Charles Larson or any other medical doctor indicating that anyone was gassed in any of the German camps;

9) Too many Jewish survivors of the so-called Holocaust. If close to 6 million Jews died in the “Holocaust,” you would not have so many survivors receiving reparations from the German government; and

10) The British broke the ultra-secret Enigma code used by the Germans to transmit secret communications. During 1942 and 1943 British intelligence intercepted daily coded messages from Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, and seven other camps. Every day the Germans recorded the numbers of dead and the manner of death at each camp. The transmissions from Auschwitz mentioned illness as the primary cause of death but also reported a few deaths attributable to shootings and hangings. There was no reference to homicidal gassings as a cause of death in any of the decoded messages.

Defenders of the Holocaust story such as yourself inevitably quote speeches from Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, and Heinrich Himmler or writings from Hitler, Goebbels, and Hans Frank to prove that Germany had an extermination program against Jews during the war. Utterances by Hitler such as “…The world war is here, the annihilation of Jewry must be the necessary consequence” and “[N]ow that the German people have lost another 160,000 dead on the Eastern Front, the originators of this bloody conflict will have to pay for it with their lives” are quoted to prove that Germany had a program to exterminate European Jewry.

In this regard, it should be noted that bloodthirsty and inflammatory statements were also made by the Allies during the war. In a war in which many millions of people were killed, emotions ran high and highly provocative and heated statements were made by supposedly responsible people on both sides of the war. Such statements do not prove that Germany had a program of extermination against the Jews. Instead, these statements reflect the German leaders’ belief that world Jewry had started World War II and must be defeated.

It should also be noted that defenders of the Holocaust story claim that the Germans took extreme measures to preserve the secrecy of their extermination program. This is why no one has ever found an order, plan, budget, or organization by Germany to exterminate European Jewry. It is untenable and absurd to think that German leaders would be stupid enough to make written and public statements about their genocide of European Jewry when they were taking extreme measures to hide their extermination of the Jews.

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @Eternal Slav

Then how come there is no verifiable forensic evidence to support all those allegations of holocostianity?

6 million bodies would leave between 100 million and 200 million teeth, the shell of which are not destroyed by cremation.

The claims of open air cremation would leave even more physical evidence. Shooting by the Einsatzgruppen would leave at least 1 bullet for each body.

All this has been debated ad infinitum in other threads of this forum; please avail yourself of these.

As to translations of the German texts of various speeches, you communist lovers always put your spin on these to suit your purposes, and is therefor worthless.

alleges:

If, for example, someone promotes and proclaims monstrosities such as the LGBT and transgender agenda, incest, cannibalism or robbery as a normal way of life or proclaims religious fanaticism (e.g. Islamism), then freedom of speech ends there
 

'You are lucky that you are anonymous. Otherwise, the police could easily deal with you.'
 

Eternal Slave, you popped up out of nowhere a few months ago and started posting your falsehoods in one of the Holohoax threads in UR.
You were a complete embarrassment there as you posted one preposterous comment after another. John Wear and several others (myself included), repeatedly slapped you down after you made the most asinine of assertions.
And it seems you're continuing on where you left off by showing up here where you're not wanted.

As for Germany invading Russia (and the other countries) first, she did that ONLY after it became clear that war was unavoidable.
Germany ONLY did this after it had exhausted every imaginable avenue to prevent war.
Outnumbered and possessing only a fraction of the resources of the Anglo-Zionist empire and its lackeys, Germany moved fast and initiated first mover advantage.
This was the only course of action that offered some prospect of a knockout punch to end the war quickly and minimise loss of life.

Deceitful individual that you are, you IGNORE the machinations (especially from the Jewish financier controlled British), that ensured war would commence - irrespective of any overtures from Germany.
Watch the following excellent video from James Corbett (of The Corbett Report), which demonstrates emphatically that the British were overwhelmingly the chief culprits responsible for the outbreak of WWI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8xxVplUHL8

Replies: @Eternal Slav

You write: "You are writing false information again. Freedom of speech does not mean saying everything you like."

My response: Actually, freedom of speech does mean saying anything you like.

Despite the extensive attention given to the event, revisionist historians have called into question many aspects of the Holocaust story. In particular, it has been shown that: 1) there were no homicidal gas chambers in any of the German concentration camps; 2) Germany did not have a program of mass murder against the Jews; and 3) the standard estimate of 6 million Jews who died during World War II is a ridiculous exaggeration.

Replies: @Eternal Slav

ALLEGES:

Freedom of speech has its limits. And that includes humor. Even more so when it comes to expressing opinions on history and political views.
 

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @notanonymousHere

We get it already: Germany baaad, communists goood. LOL

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You write: "All this speaks best about the morale of the revisionists who want to declare the Nazis victims of external aggression at all costs, which they warned off with a pre-emptive attack on the Soviet Union."

My response: I will again summarize some of the reasons why we know Stalin was preparing to attack Germany and all of Europe:

1. Stalin was moving approximately 24,000 tanks to his western front. Why did Stalin need so many tanks on his western front?

2. The Red Army lost 20,500 tanks between June and November 1941, amounting to 80% of its armored strength. (Source: McMeekin, Sean, Stalin’s War: A New History of World War II, New York: Basic Books, 2021, p. 381).

3. The Soviet Union built an entire family of BT tanks—the BT-2, BT-5, BT-7, BT-7A, and BT-7M. BT stands for bystrokhodnyi (high-speed) tank. At the beginning of World War II, the Red Army had 6,456 BT tanks, as many as all other operational tanks in the rest of the world. The BT tank’s most important characteristic–its speed–was achieved through the use of its wheels. The wheels of the BT tank made it impossible to use the BT tank successfully off the roads, or on the bad roads of the Soviet Union. In the battles fought on Soviet territory, thousands of BT tanks were abandoned. Historians say that Stalin’s BT tanks were not ready for war. This statement is not true. The BT tank was ready for an offensive war on German territory, but not in a defensive war fought on its own territory. (Source: Suvorov, Viktor, The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II, Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 2008, pp. 52-53).

4. The Soviet Union also built an outstanding family of amphibious tanks: the T-37A, T-38, and T-40. By June 22, 1941, the Soviet Union had over 4,000 amphibious tanks in its arsenal. The Soviet amphibious tanks in 1941 became unnecessary and played no role in the war. But the question remains: Why were the amphibious tanks developed and built? Why did Stalin need 4,000 amphibious tanks which could not be used in a defensive war? The obvious answer is that Stalin planned to use the amphibious tanks in a massive military invasion of Europe. (Source: Ibid., pp. 55-57).

5. Airborne assault troops were also part of Stalin’s plans. According to the official Communist Party newspaper, Pravda, on Aug. 18, 1940, the Soviet Union had more than 1 million trained parachutists at the beginning of the war. Airborne assault troops can only be used during offensive operations and only in conjunction with regular troops advancing against the enemy.

6. The Red Army needed an air armada of transport planes and gliders to deliver hundreds of thousands of paratroopers. Soviet factories started the mass production of cargo gliders beginning in the spring of 1941. On April 23, 1941, Stalin and Molotov signed an order to accelerate the production of an 11-seat glider with a deadline of May 15, 1941, and of a 20-seat glider with a deadline of July 1, 1941. The gliders that were produced in the spring of 1941 had to be used by the latest in the early fall of 1941. Gliders had light and fragile bodies and wings and could not be parked outdoors. Keeping a huge cargo glider outdoors during fall winds and rains would harm it beyond repair. Since all available hangars were already full with previously produced gliders, the mass production of gliders in the spring of 1941 meant that they had to be used either in the summer of 1941 or early fall at the latest. (Source: Ibid., p. 76).

7. Cargo warplanes are used to deliver assault forces with parachutists to the enemy’s rear. Soviet war-transport aviation used the American Douglas DC-3, which was considered to be the best cargo plane in the world at the start of World War II, as its primary cargo plane. In 1938, the U.S. government sold to Stalin the production license and the necessary amount of the most complex equipment for the DC-3’s production. The Soviet Union also bought 20 DC-3s from the United States before the war. In 1939, the Soviet Union produced six identical DC-3 aircraft; in 1940, it produced 51 DC-3 aircraft; and in 1941, it produced 237 DC-3 aircraft. During the entire war 2,419 DC-3s or equivalent planes were produced in Soviet factories. (Source: Ibid., p. 77).

8. The Soviet gliders and transport planes would be easy prey for enemy fighters if the Soviet Union did not secure complete air superiority. The Red Army had to begin the war with a massive air attack and invasion against the enemy’s air bases. Tens of thousands of paratroopers could then be dropped to seize and control key bases and strategic sites. Any other scenario was not viable. Instead, it was Hitler who carried out a preemptive strike, and Stalin’s strategy to strike the first blow was aborted. The Soviet Union’s carefully designed plan to mount a massive air offensive followed by an assault of airborne troops had to be abandoned in the desperate rush to fight a defensive war. (Source: Ibid., pp. 77-78).

9. In the years 1937-1941, the Soviet Army grew five-fold, from 1.1 million to 5.5 million. This huge increase in the size of the Soviet Army was accomplished primarily by ratification of the universal military draft in the Soviet Union on Sept. 1, 1939. Several age groups were drafted into the Red Army at the same time; in essence, all of the young men in the country. The duration of army service for the majority of the draftees was two years, so the Soviet Union had to enter a major war within two years. If war did not start by then, all of the young people would have to go home on Sept. 1, 1941, and then there would be almost nobody left to draft. Stalin knew when he established the draft that in two years, in the summer of 1941, the Soviet Union must enter into a major war.

10. Stalin’s more than 200 submarines and the rest of his navy were ineffective at the start of the war because it was an attack fleet. Stalin’s navy was built for aggressive war and could not be used effectively in a defensive war.

11. The Ammunition Commissariat was created as a separate ministry to take care exclusively of the production of ammunition. This ministry had to determine where to locate all of the new factories that would be producing shells, gunpowder, cartridges, missiles, and other weapons. If Stalin had planned to conduct a defensive war, the new ammunition factories would have been built either behind the Volga River or even farther inland in the Ural Mountains. But no defensive options were ever discussed. Since Stalin planned to conduct an offensive operation into a war-devastated and weakened Europe, all of the new ammunition factories were built near the western border regions of the Soviet Union.

12. During the course of the Bessarabia campaign, the Soviet Union captured 141 locomotives, 1,866 covered train cars, 325 half-covered train cars, 45 platforms, 19 cisterns, 31 passenger cars, and two luggage cars. But this was not enough for Stalin. At the Soviet-Romanian talks in July 1940, Soviet representatives demanded that Romania return all captured mobile railroad units. On July 31, 1940, Romania agreed to transfer 175 locomotives and 4,375 cars to the Soviet Union by Aug. 25, 1940. None of these trains would have been needed in a defensive war. Stalin could only use these trains seized in Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina in an offensive war designed to take over all of Europe. (Source: Ibid., pp. 156-157).

13. On May 5, 1941, Stalin made it clear to his generals that the Soviet Union would be the aggressor in a war with Germany. At a banquet a Soviet general toasted Stalin’s peaceful foreign policy. Stalin intervened:

“Allow me to make a correction. A peaceful foreign policy secured peace in our country. A peaceful foreign policy is a good thing. For a while, we drew a line of defenses until we rearmed our army [and] supplied it with modern means of combat. Now, when our army has been rebuilt, our technology modernized, [now that we are] strong [enough] for combat, now we must shift from defense to offense. In conducting the defense of our country, we are compelled to act in an aggressive manner. From defense we have to shift to a military policy of offense. It is indispensable that we reform our training, our propaganda, our press to a mindset of offense. The Red Army is a modern army, and the modern army is an army of offense.”

The general who made the toast to Stalin’s peaceful foreign policy was discharged a few days after the banquet. (Source: Ibid., p. 205).

14. The Soviet Union was sending a massive number of troops to the western border. This massive troop movement could not have been defensive. Troops preparing for defense dig themselves into the ground, close off roads, establish barbwire barriers, dig anti-tank trenches, and prepare covers behind the barricades. The Red Army did none of these things. Instead, the additional Soviet divisions began to hide in the border forests just like the German troops preparing for invasion. (Source: Ibid., pp. 207-217).

15. Suvorov also mentions that Soviet soldiers and officers were issued Russian-German and Russian-Romanian phrase books as part of their preparations for an invasion of Europe. Thousands of Soviet troops did not think to get rid of this compromising evidence when they were captured in the German invasion of the Soviet Union. The Russian-German phrase books were composed very simply: a question in Russian, followed by the same question in German written in Russian letters, then in German in Latin letters. If the Soviet soldier did not know how to pronounce the needed German phrase, he could point to the corresponding lines in the book and the Germans could read the lines themselves.

The phrases indicated that the Soviets were planning to conduct an offensive war in Europe. For example, some phrases asked: “Where is the burghermeister? Is there an observation point on the steeple?” There were no burghermeisters or steeples in the Soviet Union. These questions are relevant only if the Soviet soldiers were in Germany. Here are other examples: “Where is the fuel? Where is the garage? Where are the stores? Where is the water? Gather and bring here [so many] horses [farm animals], we will pay!” These questions and phrases would not be relevant on Soviet soil. The following phrases are also revealing: “You do not need to be afraid. The Red Army will come soon!” These phrases are not relevant for a war conducted on Soviet soil. (Source: Ibid., pp. 257-258).

16. Within less than a year, the Soviet Union destroyed a Japanese army in Mongolia, took over the eastern part of Poland by military force, conducted an extremely difficult and successful invasion of Finland, forced the Baltic nations of Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia to join the Soviet Union against their will, and took possession of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina from Romania. These Soviet military conquests and ultimatums expanded the Soviet Union’s territory by 426,000 square kilometers, approximately equal to the surface area of the German Reich in 1919. (Source: Hoffmann, Joachim, Stalin’s War of Extermination, 1941-1945: Planning, Realization, and Documentation, Capshaw, AL: Theses & Dissertations Press, 2001, p. 31).

17. After the division of Poland by the Soviet Union and Germany, Soviet troops could have created a powerful barrier on the new Soviet-German border. In 1939 conditions for defense along the Soviet-German border were highly favorable: forests, rivers, swamps, few roads, and lots of time. However, instead of making the area impassable, it was quickly made more penetrable. The Red Army tore down previously existing fortifications and buried them under mounds of ground. The Soviet Union also stopped producing anti-tank and anti-aircraft cannon. The Soviet Union had huge land mine production that could have been used for defense, but after the new borders with Germany were established this production was curbed.

18. The Red Army also dismantled the security pale created earlier on the old western borders and failed to create a new security pale on the Polish territory annexed to the Soviet Union.

19. The Soviet Union also constructed new railroads and railroad bridges in the western border regions. Almost all railroad troops were concentrated in the western border regions. The railroad troops worked intensively to modernize old railroads and build new ones right up to the border. Simultaneously with the construction of railroads, automobile roads were built in the western regions. The Red Army was building railroads and roads from east to west, which is usually done when preparing for advance, for a quick transfer of reserves, and for further supplying the troops after they crossed the borders. All of this work was designed for offense and hurt the Soviet Union in a defensive war. When Germany attacked the Soviet Union, German troops used the roads, bridges, supplies, rails, and sectional bridges constructed by the Soviets in the western regions to aid their advance into Soviet territory.

20. From 1926 to 1937, the Soviet Union constructed 13 fortified regions along its western borders known unofficially as “the Stalin Line.” There were many differences between the Soviet Stalin Line and the French Maginot Line. Unlike the French Maginot Line, the Stalin Line was built in secrecy and not publicized. The Stalin Line was much deeper and was built not only to stop infantry, but mostly to stop tanks. The Soviets also used huge quantities of steel and granite boulders in addition to concrete. The Stalin Line was built from the Baltic Sea in the north to the Black Sea in the south and could not be bypassed. Finally, unlike the Maginot Line, the Stalin Line was not built at the very border, but further into Soviet territory.

The 13 fortified regions on the Stalin Line were built for defense and came at a tremendous cost in effort and money. Each fortified region was also a military formation that could independently conduct military operations during a long period of time and in isolated conditions. In 1938 it was decided to strengthen all 13 regions by building heavy artillery installations within them. The Soviet Union also started construction of eight more fortified regions. Then, when the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact created a common border between Germany and the Soviet Union, Stalin ordered further construction of the fortified regions to stop. The existing fortified regions were disarmed, and everything connected with defense was dismantled and destroyed.

20. The construction of a new line of fortified regions began during the summer of 1940 on the new Soviet-German border. These new regions were unofficially referred to as the Molotov Line, but they were never finished. The defense buildup on the new borders proceeded very slowly, while the destruction of the Stalin Line was surprisingly fast. When Germany attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, the Molotov Line was not yet built. Soviet generals and marshals after Stalin’s death expressed their anger. They asked: How could Stalin liquidate and disarm the fortified regions on the old borders without building the necessary defenses on the new western borders? The answer is that Stalin was not planning to fight on his territory; Stalin was planning an offensive war against all of Europe.

21. The records of a conference of the Soviet High Command held in Moscow from Dec. 23, 1940, through the evening of Dec. 31, 1940, also indicate that the Soviet Union was planning a massive offensive against Europe. This extremely secret meeting was attended by 274 of the highest-ranking leaders of the Red Army. Most of the speakers discussed the importance of the new tactics of sudden surprise attack. Defense at the primary locations of attack was not foreseen, even theoretically. The Soviet military leaders made it clear at the conference that they had no established contemporary defense theory. Soviet military leaders also did not work on questions of defense after the conference. The goal of the Red Army was to conduct grandiose sudden offensive operations that overwhelmed the enemy on its own territory.

22. During the German invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, Yakov Iosifovich Dzhugashvili, the son of Stalin, was taken prisoner by the Germans. Stalin’s son was searched and questioned. A letter dated June 11, 1941, was found in his pockets from another officer stating: “I am at the training camps. I would like to be home by fall, but the planned walk to Berlin might hinder this.” German intelligence officers asked Yakov Dzhugashvili to clarify the statement about the “planned walk to Berlin.” Stalin’s son read the letter and quietly muttered: “Damn it!” Obviously, the letter indicates that Soviet forces were planning to invade Germany later that year.

23. German intelligence officers also asked Stalin’s son why the Soviet artillery, which had the best cannon and howitzers in the world, fired so poorly. Stalin’s son truthfully answered: “The maps let the Red Army down, because the war, contrary to expectations, unfolded to the east of the state border.” The Soviet maps were of territories in which the Red Army planned to advance and were useless for defending the country. Storages of topographic maps located unreasonably close to the border were either destroyed by the advancing German army or by the retreating Soviet forces. In 1941, the Red Army fought without maps, and the Soviet artillery could not fire accurately without maps.

24. Every Soviet commander, starting with regiment level and higher, had in his safe a so-called “Red Packet,” which contained the plans for war. When Germany invaded, the commanders opened their “Red Packets,” but they did not find in them anything useful for defense. The Red Army had neither prepared for defense nor conducted any training in defensive operations. The defensive operations of the Red Army in the summer of 1941 were pure improvisation.

25. Further evidence that the Soviet Union was planning to attack Germany is provided by Andrei Vlasov, a Soviet general who had been captured by the Germans. During a conversation in 1942 with SS Gen. Richard Hildebrandt, Vlasov was asked if and when Stalin had intended to attack Germany. Hildebrandt later stated: “Vlasov responded by saying that the attack was planned for August-September 1941. The Russians had been preparing the attack since the beginning of the year, which took quite a while because of the poor Russian railroad network. Hitler had sized up the situation entirely correctly and had struck directly into the Russian buildup. This, said Vlasov, is the reason for the tremendous initial German successes.”

26. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact began to unravel when Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov arrived in Berlin on November 12, 1940. Molotov presented to Hitler a long list of ridiculous territorial claims on behalf of the Soviet Union. Molotov demanded strongholds in Yugoslavia, in the Adriatic Sea, in Greece, in the Bosporus and Dardanelles, in the Persian Gulf; he demanded that countries south of the Baku-Batumi line, in the direction of the Persian Gulf, be given over to Soviet control, including eastern Turkey, northern Iran, and Iraq.

27. Hitler had been preparing for an invasion of Great Britain when Stalin demanded new territories in Europe–territories on which Germany’s economy and armed forces heavily depended. After Molotov’s departure, Hitler gathered his most trusted subordinates and clearly let them understand that he planned to invade the Soviet Union. (Source: Bassil Henry Liddel Hart, The second World War, Moscow: Voyenizdat, p. 145).

28. Suvorov states in “The Chief Culprit” that both German and Soviet forces were positioned for attack on June 22, 1941. The position of the divisions of the Red Army and the German army on the border mirrored each other. The airfields of both armies were moved all the way up to the border. From the defensive point of view, this kind of deployment of troops and airfields by both armies was stupid and suicidal. Whichever army attacked first would be able to easily encircle the troops of the other army. Hitler attacked first to enable German troops to trap and encircle the best units of the Red Army.

29. Hitler states toward the end of his speech on June 22, 1941, that he was invading the Soviet Union to prevent an attack on not only Germany, but all of Europe.

30. Gen. Heinz Guderian expressed his opinion after the war: “…The Russians would have won the war even without the help of their Western allies and would have occupied the whole of Europe. No power on earth could have stopped them.” (Source: Guderian, Heinz, Panzer Leader, New York: E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., 1952, p. 283).

31) The Dnepr military flotilla was created in the early 1930s to prevent the establishment and crossing of temporary bridges across the river. The flotilla included 120 warships and motorboats, as well as its own air force with shoreline and air defense batteries. The Dnepr flotilla could securely close off the roads to the industrial regions in the south of Ukraine and to the Black Sea bases of the Soviet Navy. A German attack could be stopped on the Dnepr line or at least held up for several months. However, when Hitler attacked France, Stalin ordered the removal of mines from the Dnepr River bridges and disbanded the military flotilla. The Dnepr flotilla could only be used in a defensive war on Soviet territory, and Stalin did not believe he needed it. (Source: Suvorov, Viktor, The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II, Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 2008, pp. 190-191).

Stalin divided the defensive Dnepr flotilla into two flotillas: the Danube flotilla and the Pinsk flotilla. The Danube flotilla would be useless in a defensive war. In an offensive war, however, the Danube flotilla could be deadly for Germany. It only had to sail 300 or 400 kilometers up the river to the strategically important bridge at Chernavoda, where it could disrupt the petroleum supply from Ploieşti to the port of Constanza. The entire German war machine could be stopped simply because German tanks, planes, and warships would be out of fuel. However, when Germany attacked the Soviet Union, the Danube flotilla found itself cut off from Soviet troops without the possibility of retreat. Most of its ships had to be sunk, while gigantic supplies were either destroyed or left behind. (Source: Ibid., pp. 191-192).

The Pinsk flotilla would also be difficult to use for defense. The Pinsk flotilla had 66 river warships and cutters, a squadron of airplanes, a company of marines, and other units. In the defensive war of 1941, the Soviets had to blow up and abandon all of the ships of the Pinsk flotilla. However, in a war of aggression, the Pinsk flotilla could have used the newly constructed canal from Pinsk to Kobrin, which would then allow its ships to reach the Vistula basin and head further west to the German rivers. In 1945, a Soviet admiral reached Berlin with his flotilla. (Source: Ibid., pp. 193-194).

32) The actions of the Red Army during the first days of the war speak best about Soviet intentions to conduct an offensive war. Up until June 30, 1941, Gen. Zhukov insisted on advance and demanded that commanders of Soviet forces aimed at Romania and Hungary exclusively attack. Zhukov stopped the attack only when he and his colleagues concluded that his armies could no longer advance. On June 22, 1941, several other Soviet commanders also followed prewar plans without awaiting orders from Moscow and attacked the following regions: the Rava-Russkaya region, Tilzit in Eastern Prussia, and the Polish city of Suvalki. (Source: Ibid., p. 255).

33) The actions of the Soviet fleet during the first days of the war also show with sufficient clarity its plans for offense. On June 22, 1941, the submarines of the Baltic fleet sailed toward the shores of Germany with the objective of sinking all enemy ships and vessels according to the rules of unrestricted warfare. No exceptions were made, not even for medical vessels sailing under the Red Cross flag. Soviet submarines from the Black Sea fleet immediately sailed into the sea toward the shores of Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey. On June 25 and 26, 1941, the Black Sea fleet’s cruisers carried out an intensive artillery raid in the vicinity of the Romanian port of Constanta. At the same time, the Danube military flotilla began an assault in the Danube river delta. The garrison of the Soviet naval base Hanko also conducted intensive assault operations during the beginning of the war, taking over 19 Finnish islands in the course of several days. (Source: Ibid., pp. 253-255).

34) The Soviet air force also acted in an aggressive manner at the start of the war. On June 25, 1941, despite losses suffered during the first days of the war, Soviet air forces bombed all known air fields of the southern part of Finland. On June 23, 1941, acting according to plans, the Soviet long-range bomber air force carried out a massive attack against military targets in Koenigsberg and Danzig. Soviet long-range bombers also began to bomb the Ploieşti oil fields in Romania on June 26, 1941. After a few days of raids, the amount of oil Germany obtained in Romania was reduced almost in half. If Hitler had not attacked first, the Soviet air force would have been much more dangerous and could have totally paralyzed the entire German war effort through its strikes against the oil-producing regions. (Source: Ibid., p. 254).

35) If Stalin was preparing for a defensive war, he should have ordered his plane designers to create the best fighters in the world, capable of defending the skies over the Soviet Union. But fighters did not interest Stalin. Stalin ordered his fighter designer to drop all his work on the creation of a fighter and start developing a light bomber, named the Ivanov originally, and later the Su-2 in honor of its creator, P. O. Sukhoi.

36) The ideal combat plane Stalin developed was a light bomber designed to operate free of enemy resistance. Record-breaking characteristics were not required; Stalin demanded only simplicity, durability, and firepower. Stalin planned to create a plane that could be produced in numbers exceeding all warplanes of all types of all countries in the world. Literally, Stalin planned to build as many light bombers as there were small but mobile horsemen in the hordes of Genghis Kahn.

Germany carried out a preemptive strike on Soviet air bases when it invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. Hitler’s preemptive strike did not permit the Su-2 to do the work it was primarily designed to do. The Su-2 was ineffective and not needed in a defensive war. Production of 100,000 to 150,000 Su-2 planes had been planned for conditions in which the Red Army would deliver the first attack, and nobody would hinder production of the plane. Hitler’s invasion ruined Stalin’s plan. Production of the Su-2 was stopped, but the Soviet Union produced tens of thousands of planes later in the war that were much more complex in terms of production than the Su-2. (Source: Ibid., pp. 64-65).

37) The Soviet air force exceeded that of Germany both in plane quantity and plane quality at the start of the war. Suvorov asks: Why then in the first stage of the war did the Soviet air force lose air superiority from day one? The answer is that the majority of Soviet pilots, including fighter pilots, were not taught dogfighting. Soviet aviation was designed to conduct one grandiose, sudden, aggressive operation to crush the enemy’s air force on the ground in one raid and obtain air superiority. Hitler’s preemptive strike prevented Soviet aviation from accomplishing its planned aggressive operations of unheard-of dimensions. (Source: Ibid., pp. 69-72).

38) In the summer of 1940, Stalin brought Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania into the Soviet Union, and concentrated his forces in that region on the border of Eastern Prussia. The occupation of these Baltic countries by the Red Army made sense only if there were plans for an aggressive war against Germany. The Red Army transferred its air bases to the very front edge of the German border. From the air bases in Lithuania the Soviet air force could support the advance of Soviet troops to Berlin. The Soviet navy also transferred primary forces and reserves to naval bases established in Tallinn, Riga, and Liepāja. Since it was a short distance from Liepāja to the routes taken by German vessels carrying ore, nickel, and wood to Germany, a strike from this area could be sudden and devastating. (Source: Ibid., pp. 150-152).

39) On June 13, 1941, TASS broadcast that “Germany was following the conditions of the Soviet-German pact as flawlessly as the Soviet Union,” and that rumors of an impending German attack on the USSR “were clumsily fabricated propaganda by the enemies of Germany and the USSR, interested in broadening and prolonging the war.” The TASS announcement also stated, “Rumors that the USSR is preparing for war against Germany are false and provocative.…” However, the reality is that Soviet troops were already traveling to the western border. June 13, 1941, marked the beginning of the biggest organized movement of troops, arms, ammunition, and other military supplies in history.

For example, the First Strategic Echelon of the Red Army had 170 tank, motorized, cavalry, and rifle divisions. Fifty-six of them were already located right on the border and could not move any farther ahead. All of the remaining 114 divisions began to move toward the border in the wake of the reassuring TASS announcement on June 13, 1941.

Suvorov writes: “I have interviewed hundreds of people from that generation, and they all had forebodings of war. Where did they come from? They could not have known about Hitler’s preparations. They must have seen the preparations of the Red Army and understood that war was unavoidable…Between June 12 and June 15, all the western military districts were issued an order to move all deeply located divisions closer to the state borders.” (Source: Ibid., pp. 207-217).

40) Suvorov shows a picture of a Soviet 8-inch Howitzer B-4. He writes: “Each projectile weighed 220 pounds. These guns were used primarily for an offensive war in order to break hardened enemy defenses or during an assault on cities. By the summer of 1941 the Red Army had concentrated hundreds of them on the German border, each with a supply of 600 rounds of ammunition. In a defensive war, they proved to be of little use, until 1944 when the Red Army crossed into Germany for the final offensive during the war.”

41). In another picture, Suvorov writes: “The Red Army was trained to cross rivers, a key element in an offensive war. In a defensive war, a retreating army uses its own bridges and then destroys them.”

42). Suvorov writes in other pictures: “T-34 tanks, abandoned by the Red Army in the summer of 1941, fought under the German flag for the rest of the war…Even the best German Panzer divisions were using Soviet T-34 tanks.”

43). German soldiers soon found out the extent of the Soviet preparedness when they invaded the Soviet Union. A prime example is German pilot Hans-Ulrich Rudel, who flew a Ju-87 and completed 2,430 battle missions. He wrote shortly after the German invasion of the Soviet Union:

"While flying over these numerous airbases and fortifications, we all had the same thought in our heads--how lucky we were to have struck first. It seemed that the Soviets were feverishly readying the groundwork for an attack on us. And which other Western country could Russia have attacked? If the Russians had completed their preparations, there would have been almost no hope of stopping them..." (Source: Ibid., p. 252).

44). Marshal of the Soviet Union I. K. Bagramian said: “When I was studying the operational plans, I was struck by the following fact—our frontier army had neither a deployment nor a border-protection plan.” Bagramian said that during the training exercises only offensive tactics were worked on, and on the maps the war took place on German territory. (Source Ibid., p. 199).

You could certainly question some of this evidence. For example, Gen. Heinz Guderian in item #30 could be dismissed as an extremely biased source. However, anyone who examined all of the evidence with an open mind would conclude that the Soviet Union was preparing to attack Germany and all of Europe. Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, was preemptive in nature.

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Finally a normal comment from someone. Remember, however, that we are also encounter here with the denial of the genocide of the Slavs. With the denial of the Slavic Holocaust. A crime committed by Germany and its allies during WWI and WWII. It is completely understandable why neo-Nazi revisionists deny this genocide. Because the genocide of the Slavs proves that Germany wanted war. That the Germans planned the genocide of the Slavs long before the war (before WWI and WWII) and this anti-Slavic genocidal policy played a key role in unleashing the world war. Both by Wilhelm II and Hitler.

To this day, this genocide has not been officially recognized on the international stage. Unfortunately, the genocide of the Slavs has fallen into semi-oblivion, similar to the genocide of the Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks.
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Replies: @HdC

At the very least check your ramblings for logic and consistency.

To wit: "...shot all the men and sent all the women to extermination camps..." Why bother with the latter? Did the executioners run out of bullets.

So now the German humanitarian efforts to save and protect children is now labelled as "racist". For you it would have been preferable to leave said children to the ravages of war and communism.

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @notanonymousHere

Not much left for Hitler to genocide after Lenin's and Stalin's flying start:

The genocide and mass murder of the Soviet Communists (accumulated):

The Civil War period till 1922: 3,284,000
The NEP period till 1928: 5,484,000
The collectivization period till 1935: 16,924,000
The Great Terror period till 1938: 21,269,000
Pre-World War II period till June 1941:26,373,000
World War II period till 1945: 39,426,000
Postwar and Stalin’s twilight till 1953: 55,039,000
Post-Stalin period till 1987: 61,911,000
(R. J. Rummel: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917, Transaction Publisher, 1990.)
It can be seen for instance, that before Hitler got into power at all in 1933, the Bolsheviks had murdered or otherwise eliminated about 12,000,000 human beings.

Replies: @Big Z

I can’t say much about unpublished writings
 

As I Lay There Drowning

https://annas-archive.org/search?index=&page=1&q=david+irving+As+I+Lay+There+Drowning&display=&sort=

Declares:

The genocide of Jews during WW2 by Nazi Germany and its allies is a fact.
 

If there is one thing you can take away from this here site, it is losing your
kindergarten beliefs 😁
- The Russian Caucasus romanticism exactly parallels the American Feather Injun
romanticism (notabene after the genocide) and was ably roasted by
L. N. Tolstoi in The Cossacks.
- As for the Armenians you could at least have mentioned Enver, Talaat and Djemal
were Dönme the lot of them, and the Armenians did conspire with the Russians,
which makes for three separate reasons to do away with their former accomplices.
- I would take exception with your 27 million also (knowing where they come from);
how many of these fell to the Jew (if at all) before, during and after?
(speaking for my family 1919-59 you wouldn´t like the answer, nonono)

You smell like a Jew or Bèmak.
Germans built Noworossija for Catherine the Great and Alexander I while
the Muscovites were preoccupied with the Circassian genocide (only the most
egregious of a long line).
Much the same in the North (the Battle on the Ice never happened, Eisenstein
was inspired by the Battle of Schlüsselburg, a singularly unflattering chapter in
the history of the Revolution); the legendary Lt. Baron Foelkersam of the
Brandenburger was the grand-nephew of the Adm. Foelkersam who went under
at Tsushima (Sergei Count Witte was fired for warning against the Russo-Japanese War),
and so on.
Altogether a proud and multifaceted history and symbiosis going back to Peter the Great,
and only the Jews have an interest in another war (like the first two).

You may be able to sell your drivel to Americans - in fact your (((existence)))
depends on it - but here the air is a bit colder; the Germans are occupied and herded
together on a third of their territory, and every description of subhuman is encouraged
to piss on them; they have no agency - the Chancellor from BackRock does not speak
for "The Germans (tm) "... what I do not quite get is this Vance figure - the last thing
they can want is the Germans snapping out of their National Masochism 😁

Replies: @Eternal Slav

Bullshit.
Britain had planned on a war with Germany before 1900 already because of international trading losses by Britain. These losses became larger and larger up to the beginning of WWI.

France wanted revenge on Germany for losing the Franco-Prussian war; never mind that previously France had invaded German territory 40 times over a period of 400 years with attendant murder, mayhem, and pillage.

Fact remains that Britain, followed by France, were and remain Europe's greatest war mongers.

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @Colin Wright

babbles:

The Mongol-Tatar hordes of Genghis Khan, like the Turks and Huns, attacked not only Europe, but also vast areas of Asia. Including the Middle East. And that alone makes the Japanese in the same historical context as the Mongols, Tatars, Turks and Huns.
 

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @Annacath

With the greatest genocidal monsters of the 20th century and in all of human history.
 

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @Eternal Slav

It is clear that you have never seen genetic research
 

No, they did not kneel.
 

Russian White movement, and the Jewish Bolsheviks never managed to completely eliminate the Russian anti-Bolshevik resistance
 

In the case of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
 

including the Russians, never sought world domination
 

It was the Germans who occupied almost all of Europe
 

Replies: @Eternal Slav, @Eternal Slav

We Slavs, we ourselves have experience with the Germans and the Nazis (unlike you).
 

Absolutely the same megalomania, desire for world domination and complete disrespect for human life and the rights of other people.
 

The Slavs and with them the rest of all free mankind will not kneel before anyone
 

This was the ultimate cause of his downfall.
 

Replies: @Eternal Slav

The Slav Russians who conquered and occupied Eastern Poland during the war treated the Poles as badly as did the German occupiers in Western Poland .

Slavs were no more united than west Europeans who were continually at war with each other their entire history.

Replies: @Eternal Slav

Jews and Germans themselves have united many times against Slavs.
 

when Jews in Germany and around the world massively supported the German war machine.
 

Imperial Germany was heavily Jewish and Jews, claiming to be Germans, were part of the privileged ruling class. Part of the master German race.
 

1. Not to mention how Germany sponsored and made pacts with Jewish Bolsheviks during and after WW1…2. The collaboration of Nazi Germany with the Jewish Soviet Union to destroy and divide Poland is also well known (see the Molotov-Ribentropp Pact)… 3. Well, even Jews are good allies when it comes to fighting the Slavs and creating a Greater German Reich.
 

The German Reich was never a defender of the white race. Only a destroyer of the white race for the benefit of the Jews and the Asian hordes.
 

It was the Slavs who really stood in the front line in the defense of the white race and against the Synagogue of Satan. Tsarist Russia
 

Czechoslovakia with its healthy conservative core of the Czech and Slovak people
 

Replies: @Alden, @Eternal Slav

You write: "And just by the way, German civilian losses due to Allied actions are 500,000 to 2 million. Not 9 million. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II"

My response: I suggest you read Chapters Five, Six, and Seven of my book for more information. These three chapters will give you much more reliable information than Wikipedia or people such as Rüdiger Overmans.

Replies: @Eternal Slav

No one takes you Nazis seriously
 

The Nazi Third Reich, this absolute evil, is dead.
 

When the war ended, the fate of Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Baltic States, Hungary, and virtually all of eastern Europe was foreordained. Roosevelt had already ceded them to the USSR.

The fact is, we had the Soviet Union over a barrel and could have driven any bargain we wanted to with them. We could have punished them and driven them back behind any borders we desired; could have de-fanged them. Instead we armed them, gave them the very blueprints of our industrial might, gave them the bomb, and created an “enemy” that tied us up for half a century.