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    It's a little commented fact, but one that is true nonetheless, that Russian relations with Israel are better than with almost any Western country. Open visa regime. No sanctions over Crimea, an attitude largely of mutual studied indifference as regards Ukraine and Palestine, respectively. Open to Sputnik V vaccine. Criticized Biden's comments about Putin as...
  • @Triteleia Laxa
    @Gerhard Grasruck


    How about the following nice plan:
    – One state solution with equal rights to Jews and Non-Jews
     
    It is obvious to all, except sheltered Western liberals, that this plan is intended to create the conditions for the forcible ethnic cleansing of all Jews from that land.

    How would you have the Israelis agree to it?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Gerhard Grasruck

    I will add my analysis of where the two sides currently sit; with the caveat that the two sides are actually many sides, making this is a simplification.

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    Israel is playing its hand well, as its position improves every year. The more time passes, the more legitimacy they have, but also they are constantly working to improve the facts on the ground for themselves. Those in continually improving positions, with only minor disruptions, are not generally minded to make large concessions for peace.

    The Palestinians have a bunch of plans, but all of them are impossible to achieve. While dreaming of a total victory, their hand is weakening and weakening. Their latest idea of, (via a miracle of PR and double standards), somehow persuading the West to boycott Israel and force them to accept a one state solution, is self-defeating. It is only Israeli attachment to Western liberal norms that keeps Palestinians in the game.

    Were the West to boycott Israel, the Israeli hard right would take power and there would be nothing to stop them clearing the West Bank, and possibly the Gaza Strip, of residents.

    This might make Israel an international pariah, but the facts on the ground would be resolved one hundred percent in their favour. They would then need only wait out some years before the West would re-open up – see what is happening with Assad, even with the Arab League.

    I’d suggest that the Palestinians instead seek independence in line with the walls and try and get as much money as possible as part of the deal. The faster they do this, the more likely they are to achieve it.

    The problem is that their leadership and pro-Palestinian Western media have enabled the Palestinian people’s delusions, that they are constantly winning, and such winning people will never accept this defeat.

    This means that the dismal situation continues, but Israel continually improves its position, trading meaningless Western media goodwill, for favourable facts on the ground; while the Palestinians celebrate getting the reverse. They are therefore celebrating their own route to total defeat.

    The Arab nations have realised this and just want to move on. The Israelis have realised this and are content. The sooner the Palestinian people realise this, the better for them, but they won’t, so it is a true tragedy.

    It isn’t my fault. Please don’t shoot the messenger.

    • Agree: AaronB
    • Replies: @Znzn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    What are you talking about, the mainstream left in Europe, as represented by the Guardian, is only talking about halting further settlement expansion.

    , @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa


    there would be nothing to stop them clearing the West Bank, and possibly the Gaza Strip, of residents.
     
    Ahh, so no more beating around the bush but open gloating about ethnical cleansing like your Ziothug comrade @AaronB?

    Were the West to boycott Israel
     
    You are utterly delusional about what would happen if the West stopped throwing around its entire military, political and economic might in the service of Israel, leave alone if it would turn hostile.
  • Yes folks, there is an international conspiracy and it is all about “protecting” Israel. It operates through front and lobbying groups that uniquely promote the interests of a foreign country, Israel, even when those interests do serious damage to the host country where the lobbyists actually live. In Britain, for example, there are a Conservative...
  • In Britain, for example, there are a Conservative Friends of Israel and a Labour Friends of Israel, comprising together 216 members of parliament and party officials.

    There are many Conservative “friends” associations, including Rússia, Pakistan, Índia, Turkey and even Palestine. Often MPs are in seemingly antithetical groups. The same is true for Labour.

    These expressions of “friendship” mean as much as one would expect; which is no more than not wanting Britain to engage in imperalistic actions against the object of that friendship.

    Related: my new favourite phrase is “geopolitical fan fiction”. Thanks for the read!

    • Replies: @lydia
    @Triteleia Laxa

    World leaders, mobsters, smog and mirrors
    INVESTIGATION: Who is the Kazakh-Turkish family behind so many football scandals?
    By Craig Shaw, Zeynep Şentek, Ștefan Cândea

    20 December 2016

  • From Chalkbeat New York: She can tell it's flawed because blacks and Latinos don't score as high on it as Asians and whites. Who ever heard of such a thing? That's utterly anomalous. The literacy test, which became mandatory in 2014, was one of several requirements the state added to overhaul teacher preparation in 2009....
  • @Polistra
    @Alfa158

    Exactly so, yet it still perplexes me when I see "Black and brown" together in a sentence.

    Hey! Those are two colors of bear. Can we start calling ourselves Polar People?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    • Thanks: Polistra
    • LOL: vhrm
  • @ScarletNumber
    @Anonymous


    What is the justification for capitalizing “Asian” but not “White”?
     
    In case you're not kidding, Asians are named after Asia, which is a continent. Continents are capitalized. In a similar vein, Caucasian is also capitalized.

    Unz, I beg you, please disallow anonymous commenting.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Anonymous, @Jonathan Mason, @Triteleia Laxa, @JerseyJeffersonian

    European, Asian, African

    white, yellow, Black

  • It's a little commented fact, but one that is true nonetheless, that Russian relations with Israel are better than with almost any Western country. Open visa regime. No sanctions over Crimea, an attitude largely of mutual studied indifference as regards Ukraine and Palestine, respectively. Open to Sputnik V vaccine. Criticized Biden's comments about Putin as...
  • @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Again:


    – All land that was robbed from Palestinians (Reminder: In 1946 94% of all Land was owned by Non-Jews) has to be returned to its respective owner or legal successor. If the owner wants to accept a compensation instead then OK, but if he insists then it has to be given back.
     
    To be deprieved of Land that was stolen before is obviously not ethnical cleansing

    How would you have the Israelis agree to it?
     
    This, of course, would only be possible by military pressure. However, what ought to be done and the measures to do it are two different questions.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    There’s not much to answer in your posts. You start with your aim, then you try to force definitions suitable for your aim onto emotionally resonant words, before accusing anyone who questions you of moral crimes for not agreeing with your aims, definitions or moralistic judgements. You are therefore only in conversation with yourself.

    You are like a satirical used car salesman. You need to sell your car to anyone who stumbles in, so you declare that your car is, “essential” for “humans”, which means that if anyone refuses, you can declare them “a monster, not even human”.

    This is a very poor sales technique. It will work on no one. It will just cause people to find some way to leave the conversation and consider you an idiot.

    Also, I am not looking to be sold anything, but to understand. What trauma did you personally suffer that you now try to resolve by seeing it through the prism of Israel-Palestine? Only children argue like you, so I can infer that your wounded inner child takes control on this topic.

    This forum is, weirdly, a safe place, you can speak freely.

    • Replies: @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa

    OK, since there is nothing concrete to answer in your confused rant, we may conclude the discussion here.

    , @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa

    OK, on second thought, maybe the following answer might be in order: I don't want to sell you anything; I know fully well that there is no common base. European people have evolved a code of universalist justice and honor that, while of course often not followed as scrupulously as it should be, is at least upheld as an ideal. Your mind, in contrast, is molded by the strictures of Jewish Ethnosupremacism, which knows absolutely no moral obligations in regard to outgroups and which allows to commit any crime against them - the only yardstick of "moral" is "Is it good for the Jews?". Naturally, with such fundamental differences in "moral" standards it would be completely pointless for me to try to convince you of anything based on my moral standard.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • The following graph shows the percentages of people--by race, sex and political orientation--who say "genetic testing will do more harm than good": Fetal genetic testing during the first trimester and embryo selection during IVF procedures to screen for conditions like Down or Patau syndromes is eugenics. It's voluntary rather than coerced as many of the...
  • Thinking about eugenics makes me feel status anxiety.

    This is not triggered by discussion of reducing Patau or other genetic illnesses. It is instead caused by reflecting on how the natural gifts which I have, that can never be taken away, would be diminished, in social value, by genetic engineering for good looks and intelligence. If the norm I’m these areas caught up and then overleapt me, I might feel smaller.

    I assume this adequately explains the bifurcated progressive attitude towards eugenics. I don’t mind feeling smaller, but fear of such is what drives a lot of politics.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Those fears are real, but they are quite unfounded.

    Firstly, your own generational peers - everyone's go-to comparison group - are not going to in any way "overtake" you because eugenics alters nothing about them; both they and you remain just as they and you were.

    Secondly, it's not as if everybody in the upcoming generation will be a product of eugenics and immediately overshadow you with their stunning good looks and brilliant intelligence as soon as they come of age.

    Eugenics only means that the proportion of people with such traits will be slightly greater in that generation. How slight? Imperceptibly slight. But you keep that up for generation after generation, and the benefits at some point make themselves felt.

  • Just like in 2006, when both Ehud Olmert and George Bush declared that the “invincible IDF” had, yet again, achieved a “glorious victory” and the entire Middle-East almost died laughing hearing this ridiculous claim, today both the US and Israeli propaganda machine have declared another “glorious” victory for the “Jewish state of Israel” cum “sole...
  • I kept thinking of this guy when I read this article:

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    Which bearded man is the Saker’s Daisy Ridley?

  • It's a little commented fact, but one that is true nonetheless, that Russian relations with Israel are better than with almost any Western country. Open visa regime. No sanctions over Crimea, an attitude largely of mutual studied indifference as regards Ukraine and Palestine, respectively. Open to Sputnik V vaccine. Criticized Biden's comments about Putin as...
  • @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa

    OK, on second thought, maybe the following answer might be in order: I don't want to sell you anything; I know fully well that there is no common base. European people have evolved a code of universalist justice and honor that, while of course often not followed as scrupulously as it should be, is at least upheld as an ideal. Your mind, in contrast, is molded by the strictures of Jewish Ethnosupremacism, which knows absolutely no moral obligations in regard to outgroups and which allows to commit any crime against them - the only yardstick of "moral" is "Is it good for the Jews?". Naturally, with such fundamental differences in "moral" standards it would be completely pointless for me to try to convince you of anything based on my moral standard.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    You know nothing about me and don’t understand me at all, but I am not offended, you also know nothing about yourself.

    To help: my understanding of life on this planet is that everyone would be fine if they could find the perspicacity and courage to just do what is in their heart.

    The problem is that the vast majority of people cannot come close to doing this; which leaves the dual questions: how to help them, and how to deal with them while they are like this?

    I am practicing answers for both while engaging with you, and my accompanying political beliefs may be reduced to trying to see where people are, what the possibilities are, and how peace and order might be established, from those facts, to allow the living to work on developing their perspicacity and courage.

    Are you able to understand now?

    • Replies: @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The jarring contrast between your new agey, spiritual counseller style posts with your hardheaded Ziothug let's ethnically cleanse the Westbank and Gaza strip type ones is quite amusing. Anyway, the facts have been clarified, the moral points of view are incompatible in principle, so there is absolutely no point in continuing this discussion.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @Gerhard Grasruck
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The jarring contrast between your new agey, spiritual counseller style posts with your hardheaded Ziothug let's ethnically cleanse the Westbank and Gaza strip type ones is quite amusing. Anyway, the facts have been clarified, the moral points of view are incompatible in principle, so there is absolutely no point in continuing this discussion.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I don’t believe that your “point of view” is based on “morals”. Like all charlatans, you dissemble incoherently while affecting to rectitude.

    I knew a man who acted like you, but in his personal life. His girlfriend suffered for it, before she sensibly left him.

    He would layer thin “moral” arguments into disagreements so as to control her. When she pointed out inconsistencies within those, he would respond with hysterical insults, implying that she was sinful, and bad, for refusing his control of her.

    Over time, she was beaten down because, while he saw his pain, the pain he would only acknowledge as a weapon, she felt she could help; but she could not. Eventually she ended her self-sacrifice and learned her limits.

    Now she is happy, while he continues to dwell in his delusions and fear. He argued about politics exactly as you do. Everyone was always against him and out to get him, at least after they knew him for a while. His paranoia was his self-fulfilling prophecy.

    • LOL: Gerhard Grasruck
  • There's a good chance aliens exist, perhaps including in our galaxy. However, there are reasons - the Dark Forest theory, the Katechon Hypothesis - for why we should expect them to be paranoid about being detected. In contrast, MIC shilling can be rather open. It is curious that there's no media denunciation of this, as...
  • @Wency
    @songbird


    Though, on the other end of it, there are people who seem to be invested in there being no other life, even simple life, on other planets. I don’t get it. I heard an atheist argue once that it would disprove the Bible, if alien life (even simple) was discovered, but I don’t believe most Christians are literalists about Genesis.
     
    I'm not committed to the idea of Earth's uniqueness one way or the other (Rare Earth Hypothesis), but a few thoughts:

    The uniqueness of Earth, if demonstrably true, would be an apologetics point in favor of an intelligent creator, even if its falsity wouldn't refute the existence of that creator. A single instance of a fantastically improbable event might just be the result of chance, but it should also cause people to significantly "adjust their priors" and increase their estimation of the possibility that it was NOT the result of chance. People winning the lottery is not cause for suspicion, but the same man winning *every* lottery should probably make you very suspicious, even if it's not technically impossible that this could happen in a series of fair contests.

    It can be seen as allied to the Fine-Tuning Argument, which argues that the laws of physics are specifically mathematically tuned in such a way as to make life possible.

    But from what I know of Young Earth Creationists (YECists), they're divided on the matter of the possibility of alien life. I knew one personally who was a big sci-fi fan and figured aliens probably did exist, and God created them as well. But others do insist that Genesis excludes the possibility of life anywhere else.

    I'll also observe that the Rare Earth Hypothesis doesn't only appeal to Christians. Some secular scientists do seem to believe it on its merits. And certain techno-optimists/singularity-enthusiasts also believe it more religiously. There's a certain tension within "I effing love science" here. If technology is our salvation and the inevitable result of technological civilization is the Dyson Sphere, interstellar colonization, and practical immortality, then where are all the aliens and their Dyson Spheres? Answer: we're the only ones who have gotten this far, but we'll get there, just you see.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @songbird

    A single instance of a fantastically improbable event might just be the result of chance

    All single event situations are extremely improbable, but they happen.

  • As we begin the Year Two (After Floyd), let us reflect upon how centering Intersectional Women of Blackness has changed our society's highest priorities for the better: When the Diversity-Inclusion-Equity (DIE) movement comes, in the name of Equity, for your equity in your home, just remember that they really need your money to spend on...
  • @TelfoedJohn
    @Achmed E. Newman


    There’s nothing at all wrong with girls worrying about their hair. Most girls have no business being in academia though.
     
    Or in employment, or having the vote. Women in the workplace have made it an emotional minefield. And having the vote turned politics childlike and hysterical. Look at this graph of presidential speech grade levels .. what happens in 1920?:

    https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/Jj0LOI6c-93ZTTG-elUK4qr99_4=/570x366/filters:format(png)/media/img/posts/2014/10/Screen_Shot_2014_10_13_at_11.25.09_PM/original.png

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    Radio broadcasting…

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @Triteleia Laxa



    what happens in 1920?:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Radio broadcasting…
     
    Another turning point.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/11/the-gettysburg-address-as-a-powerpoint/281636/
    , @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The year 1920 was the first US Presidential election after women were given the vote.

    Radio was a hobbyist toy at that time.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • In this video the white man's refusal to boast about his race probably strikes the black man as a white racist microaggression, and with good reason. After all, what other race turns the other cheek to racial defamation so often and attempts to appeal to (white-invented) abstract ideals of universality that only whites really find...
  • Not having to worship mediocre achievement as great, simply because the person, who achieved, shares my skin colour.

    Not having to excuse harm for no other reason than the perpetrator is my race.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You’re right. Selling your own children into the most humiliating subjugation to build a shitty obsolete airplane that doesn’t even work isn’t mediocre. It’s so rotten it stinks to high Heaven.

    And you did indeed worship it as great as the MAGA-man himself and his Congress made sure it was fully funded and bragged about as part of his Make America GREAT Again program.

    For God’s sake can you even hear yourselves? NYT talks about Till and Tulsa all the time because you’re coasting on achievements even older than that.

  • The rumors that Roman Protasevich was associated with the Azov Battalion, a Neo-Nazi regiment incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard, came off as too perfect of a "pro-Kremlin" caricature for me to initially put much faith in them. But over the past couple of days it has been more or less confirmed that those initial...
  • Can “Terror Machine” not use a pair of scissors to cut off his dangling straps or, at least, tape them up?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Triteleia Laxa

    He might be keeping them dangling in the same reason why truckers, etc sometimes dangle balls behind their car or put stuffed animals in the front bumper.

  • Chris Rufo has dug up a fascinating white paper by a diversity consulting group, White Men as Full Diversity Partners, that was hired by Lockheed to harangue white men to crave Diversity. Here's a picture redolent of the Bad Old Lockheed, which had a U-2 spy plane flying too high to be shot down over...
  • Yes, “White male” culture is Apollonian. Almost everything else is Cthnonian, at least by comparison. None of this is new.

    The problem is that humans need balance between the two, and the modern world forces people to be far more Apollonian than they would like. This drives some crazy.

    Many women and black people seem to really struggle, for whatever reason, with the Apollonian mask required for public civic life.

    Many middle-aged white men seem to really struggle, for whatever reason, with not over-identifying with that mask and having it squeeze the energy out of their private life.

    That these basic human psychological impulses have become tied up with race and sex does no one any favours, but they are tied up, so that’s that.

  • The empirical assessment of the validity of stereotypes--or the lack thereof--is the blog's raison d'etre, so let's reclinate towards the place we began. The following graph shows how much more likely men are to say they find "slimmer women" more attractive than "chubby women", how much more likely women are to say they find "taller...
  • @Rosie
    @Twinkie


    AE: There are victims of worse prejudice than yours.

    Rosie: No way. I always have it the worst!
     
    Oh shut up, Twinkles, you insufferable little douchebag. Men on this very thread have said that they consider obesity to be an absolute deal-killer.

    The closest thing I've ever heard women say is that they won't date a man who is shorter than them.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @res, @Anon, @Triteleia Laxa, @Jim Christian, @Mario Partisan

    How do we measure the extremity of “obese” versus “shorter than them”?

    During our “epidemic of obesity”, such fatness may be common, but we are living in an extreme time.

    Can men be expected to find extreme and unhealthy body shapes anything but a strong turn off?

    Would “obese” and “dwarf” not be more comparable than “shorter than me”? Both come with probable health consequences and both are extreme.

    Unfortunately for people with dwarfism, but fortunately for the obese, although their challenges may be similar, people with dwarfism cannot go on a diet to remedy their situation, while obese people can.

    The other edge of this sword though, for obese people, is that they get morally judged for their choices.

    Personally, I’d rather a choice and face social opprobrium than have no choice.

    • Agree: Some Guy
    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Can men be expected to find extreme and unhealthy body shapes anything but a strong turn off?
     
    I'm not saying one way or the other. I'll just say this. It's not wise to rule out body types in the abstract. It is one thing to say that you're generally more attracted to one type of person thanthe other; it's quite another to say that you would never consider dating that type of person.

    Unfortunately for people with dwarfism, but fortunately for the obese, although their challenges may be similar, people with dwarfism cannot go on a diet to remedy their situation, while obese people can.
     
    The statistics indicate that permanent weight loss is statistically rare, though not theoretically impossible as is the case for short people.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Some Guy, @Triteleia Laxa

  • In this video the white man's refusal to boast about his race probably strikes the black man as a white racist microaggression, and with good reason. After all, what other race turns the other cheek to racial defamation so often and attempts to appeal to (white-invented) abstract ideals of universality that only whites really find...
  • @Dave Pinsen
    @obwandiyag

    Midwit take.

    Taking pride in the accomplishments of your group complements individuals excelling on behalf of their groups.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Still a midwit take.

    If you feel pride, you feel pride. Be honest with yourself about it. If you don’t feel pride, be honest with yourself about that too.

    See where courage takes you.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Still a midwit take.

    If you feel pride, you feel pride. Be honest with yourself about it. If you don’t feel pride, be honest with yourself about that too

    What exactly is midwit about it?

    Pride and group cohesion are directly connected to policy and culture.

    If you don't believe that group accomplishments mean anything then you are more likely to believe that open borders to the third world is a good idea. History suggests that this just turns your country into the third world. Egalitarians *want to believe* otherwise but history is rather consistent here. So the impacts go well beyond self-esteem or identity.

    But more importantly I've seen "Black Pride" PSAs on television where they celebrate 3/4 White inventors as Black. Is that midwit?

    What if White people had "White pride" PSAs where they celebrate 3/4 Black athletes as White?

    If anything is midwit it is going along with this giant circus of denying racial differences that requires absurd levels of anti-intellectualism (while pretending it is all intelligent). If leftists were actually as smart as they imagine themselves then they would focus on the proletariat and end this futile war against nature. Even if they succeed in getting rid of US Whites that would still leave their new Brazil 2.0 in the shadow of Asian countries. Asians have seen the results of egalitarian madness and will not be signing up.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s a common sight to see a boxer or MMA fighter hold up his country’s flag after a victory: he’s not foolish to do that, and neither are his countrymen for cheering his victory. He’s one of them, and he’s their champion. This a reciprocity that goes back to Ancient Greece.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • The empirical assessment of the validity of stereotypes--or the lack thereof--is the blog's raison d'etre, so let's reclinate towards the place we began. The following graph shows how much more likely men are to say they find "slimmer women" more attractive than "chubby women", how much more likely women are to say they find "taller...
  • @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Can men be expected to find extreme and unhealthy body shapes anything but a strong turn off?
     
    I'm not saying one way or the other. I'll just say this. It's not wise to rule out body types in the abstract. It is one thing to say that you're generally more attracted to one type of person thanthe other; it's quite another to say that you would never consider dating that type of person.

    Unfortunately for people with dwarfism, but fortunately for the obese, although their challenges may be similar, people with dwarfism cannot go on a diet to remedy their situation, while obese people can.
     
    The statistics indicate that permanent weight loss is statistically rare, though not theoretically impossible as is the case for short people.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Some Guy, @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s not wise to rule out body types in the abstract. It is one thing to say that you’re generally more attracted to one type of person thanthe other; it’s quite another to say that you would never consider dating that type of person.

    I don’t have a physical type, except a strong preference for athleticism, which does include “thin”. The reasons are many and personal; including those that others would be glad not to share.

    Looking through your posts, it seems that you are sensitive to the pain fat people feel when judged in society. Some other commenters’ have concluded that this is because you’re substantially overweight; but I get the impression that it is more like because your husband is (substantially more so.)

    This might be amusingly ironic for you. A board, which ostentatiously prizes wifely virtue, is, through oafishness, mistakenly criticising a wife who typifies it…

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Looking through your posts, it seems that you are sensitive to the pain fat people feel when judged in society. Some other commenters’ have concluded that this is because you’re substantially overweight;
     
    Yes, these people lack compassion and therefore cannot wrap their puny little minds around the fact that non-fat people might care about the feelings of fat people.

    Nor that nonprostitutes would care about the dignity of prostitutes, or nondrug-addicts would care about the welfare of drug addicts, etc.

    I am very middle of the road in regards to weight, and my weight has been very resistant to change over the years. I have found it very nearly impossible to lose more than 15 pounds or so with dieting. On the other hand, there is a cieling that I never go over. It would be literally physically impossible for me to go above a certain weight, even when I'm not trying at all. I get a sense of satiety with a relatively moderate amount of food that makes me stop eating. Some people are not that lucky. We know this because when people are given drugs to control their appetite, they lose weight. If people were just thoughtless gluttons, the drugs wouldn't work.

    https://www.axios.com/obesity-weight-loss-drug-stigma-912c7d46-d23a-447b-b47b-376583e4bffe.html

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Mario Partisan, @dfordoom

    , @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Looking through your posts, it seems that you are sensitive to the pain fat people feel when judged in society. Some other commenters’ have concluded that this is because you’re substantially overweight; but I get the impression that it is more like because your husband is (substantially more so.)
     
    You are clearly new here, so let me clue you in. Rosie is on record as stating that:

    1) She was overweight before.
    2) But is totally not overweight now.
    3) But if she were, it's totally not her fault. Obesity is systemic (like "racism!") and, in her case, genetic (so "science!").
    4) But would totally be even trimmer if it weren't for the heartless bastards of doctors not prescribing her amphetamine-like medications (with cardiovascular side effects) and/or if she were a richer, childless person with a housekeeper.
    5) But really men who find overweight women (due to genetics, of course!) unattractive are assholes (or her favorite word, "douchebags").

    Oh, yeah, and if you are a man who sleeps with a woman and decides to be with someone else, he should be assaulted by the said woman's male kin.

    Clear now? There is a reason why she is one of a handful of commenters here I mock (ever so gently) rather than engage in serious conversations.

    This might be amusingly ironic for you. A board, which ostentatiously prizes wifely virtue, is, through oafishness, mistakenly criticising a wife who typifies it…
     
    Oh, yeah, wifely virtue - like spamming lots of inane messages on a blog instead of taking care of her said husband and her supposedly many children. Such as expressing resentment (online, no less) that she has to "negotiate" everything with her husband and being grumpy that nice vacation (second) homes are so expensive (she's been trying to buy one) and how she doesn't have a maid... all the while railing against "the rich" (i.e. anyone with more money than she does).

    Her being triggered by obesity- and promiscuity-talk isn't from concern about her husband. She's given more than enough clues online about her own history and insecurities.
    , @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Let me clue you in. Twinkles is a lying sack of shit who has a vendetta against me for being a White nationalist. He thinks we should all be fine with Whites becoming a minority because Whites will remain a plurality until our grandchildren are dead. He also pretends not to understand that Whites need a homeland in order to survive. He says his grandchildren will
    be phenotypically White even though he is Asian himself and his children will mate in a minority White dating pool.

    What I have said is that I permanently lost weight when I transitioned to being a SAHM, because I had more time to exercise. Twinkles apparently believes that it's just not credible that someone who has more time to exercise might lose weight and keep it off.

    I get sick and tired of hearing yhe likes of Twinkles moan about fat people and then justify the refusal of doctors to prescribe antiobesity mess that are known to work. It's almost like people like Twinkles enjoy the fact that fat people exist, as a foil to their superior selves.

    You know, I understand the libertarian position, and I understand the paternalistic position. What I don’t understand is the strange combination of libertarianism and paternalism that allows people to buy a 900 calorie shake for themselves but not a diet pill, even though obesity is doubleplusungood for you. I don't recall Twinkles explaining why this makes any sort of sense.

    Everything Twinkles says to me is an attempt to humiliate and discredit me in an effort to get dissident right men to worry more about their girlfriend's hymen or lack thereof than the tens of thousands of Asians coming here to displace them from the middle class.

    As for Mr. Rosie, he is no Adonis, but he is exactly the opposite of Twinkles in every respect whatsoever, i.e. perfect.

    Compassionate
    Thoughtful
    Creative
    Intelligent
    Open-minded

    Replies: @Truth, @Some Guy

  • @Charles Pewitt
    SHORT SHARP SHOCK

    I'm somewhat short but that didn't stop me from making a demand that Trump bring 6 feet 2 inch lady swimmer and actress Ragga Ragnars to his golf club in New Jersey for the formal announcement of Trump's endorsement of me for the Republican Party US senatorial primary.

    I have stated that I will consider accepting Trump's endorsement if certain conditions are met and the use of Trump's New Jersey golf club for my mid-Atlantic campaign headquarters is one of them.

    Trump must also pay a massive appearance fee for both Van Morrison and beautiful and shapely tall gal Ragga Ragnars and when Van Morrison and his band play "Going Down To Monte Carlo" and when Van gets to the line about Sartre saying Hell was other people that is when I will turn to my dance partner Ragga Ragnars and say "you're not any part of Hell, Miss Ragga, you're heaven on earth" and then me and Ragga will dance the night away.

    Katarina Witt is 5 feet 5 inches tall and she should be dancing with me on Trump's dime, too.

    https://twitter.com/discountmage/status/1268301976925802499?s=20

    https://youtu.be/WZudrgVKlDM

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I don’t know what to make of your post. Are you a genuine political candidate?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I don’t know what to make of your post. Are you a genuine political candidate?

    I say:

    I will refuse to consider accepting Trump's endorsement for the Republican Party US senatorial primary in New Hampshire if Trump endorses Liz Cheney. Liz Cheney and her father Dick Cheney are sleazy whores for evil and treasonous money-grubbing globalizers.

    Dick and Liz Cheney push mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and the Cheney Organized Crime Syndicate pushes sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams and the Cheney scumbags push for more and more endless and unnecessary war to fatten the profits of the war profiteers.

    More on my demands to consider accepting Trump's endorsement for US Senate from NH from April of 2021:

    I will soon be running for the US Senate from New Hampshire and I have begun composing my list of demands to Trump regarding my possible acceptance of Trump’s endorsement. If Trump meets all my demands, I shall consider accepting his endorsement.

    One demand is to have Trump’s New Jersey golf club serve as my campaign headquarters for the mid-Atlantic region and then Van Morrison must be brought into the golf club for a concert and Trump must pay for Morrison and the food and the booze and the ale.

    Only Swiftian Modest Proposals On Unz Review.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/bret-stephens-goes-full-isteve/#comment-4620807

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Why the Hell not?

  • As we begin the Year Two (After Floyd), let us reflect upon how centering Intersectional Women of Blackness has changed our society's highest priorities for the better: When the Diversity-Inclusion-Equity (DIE) movement comes, in the name of Equity, for your equity in your home, just remember that they really need your money to spend on...
  • @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The year 1920 was the first US Presidential election after women were given the vote.

    Radio was a hobbyist toy at that time.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    It dropped substantially only in 1925

  • In this video the white man's refusal to boast about his race probably strikes the black man as a white racist microaggression, and with good reason. After all, what other race turns the other cheek to racial defamation so often and attempts to appeal to (white-invented) abstract ideals of universality that only whites really find...
  • @John Johnson
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Still a midwit take.

    If you feel pride, you feel pride. Be honest with yourself about it. If you don’t feel pride, be honest with yourself about that too

    What exactly is midwit about it?

    Pride and group cohesion are directly connected to policy and culture.

    If you don't believe that group accomplishments mean anything then you are more likely to believe that open borders to the third world is a good idea. History suggests that this just turns your country into the third world. Egalitarians *want to believe* otherwise but history is rather consistent here. So the impacts go well beyond self-esteem or identity.

    But more importantly I've seen "Black Pride" PSAs on television where they celebrate 3/4 White inventors as Black. Is that midwit?

    What if White people had "White pride" PSAs where they celebrate 3/4 Black athletes as White?

    If anything is midwit it is going along with this giant circus of denying racial differences that requires absurd levels of anti-intellectualism (while pretending it is all intelligent). If leftists were actually as smart as they imagine themselves then they would focus on the proletariat and end this futile war against nature. Even if they succeed in getting rid of US Whites that would still leave their new Brazil 2.0 in the shadow of Asian countries. Asians have seen the results of egalitarian madness and will not be signing up.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    The whole idea of deciding what you will feel, because of some abstract nonsense you have concocted, for the sake of your ego stroking itself, is midwit.

    Your comment has nothing to do with the one that I wrote, which you believe you were replying to.

  • @Dave Pinsen
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s a common sight to see a boxer or MMA fighter hold up his country’s flag after a victory: he’s not foolish to do that, and neither are his countrymen for cheering his victory. He’s one of them, and he’s their champion. This a reciprocity that goes back to Ancient Greece.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    What does your response have to do with mine?

    It is midwit to argue whether feeling pride is appropriate or not. Either the individual feels it, or they don’t.

    Morality, individual pragmatism, history, social good, they are, at best, explanations for why the person feels pride or not.

    If those explanations cause us to deceive ourselves over how we feel, then those explanations are a problem.

    Should you feel pride” is irrelevant – and the first step towards a lie. “Do you feel pride”, is what matters.

    Sorry, not sorry, but your whole perspective is midwit…

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    “Should you feel pride” is irrelevant – and the first step towards a lie. “Do you feel pride”, is what matters.
     
    It's not irrelevant because people are constantly asking it. And why not? The place of pride - any sort: fatherly, ethnic, sporting etc - in our lives is a question that merits some reflection.

    And if someone doesn't feel pride but you believe he should, you will have to supply him with reasons. It may shock you, but people have been known to change their minds on this.

    That said, pride feelings do tend to arise spontaneously, so there's probably some limit to how much various "talk" about them will alter them; still talk can make some difference.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • I would like some insight into whether the author really believes his own article.

    Or does he just hope that if he repeats it enough it will become true?

    Or does it bring in donations and is just a flat out fantasy?

    In which case, the same questions as above, may be asked of the donaters.

    I assume someone at some point must be sincere, but I have no idea how one might squint one’s eyes so hard, that reality looks anything like that which is decribed?

    I suppose the picture attached at the top, which is pure psycho-sexual click bait, points in the right direction…

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It is the creation of a collective fantasy. A noted feature of the Middle Eastern mind, and especially the Muslim, is to retreat into fantasy when reality becomes too painful.

    They did this in 48 and 67 too. It always ends in tragedy for them.

    To be fair, large parts of the Arab/Muslim world seem to be breaking away from this dysfunctional pattern.

    I have noticed recently, that many anti-Israel commenters, led by AnonStarter, are urging people to ignore and not engage anyone who disagrees with them, because it interferes with the creation of a collective fantasy, which requires self-hypnosis.

    Refusing to engage the Israelis has also been a classic Arab strategy, almost as if they can make them not exist by pretending they don't.

    The Arab MO from the beginning of this conflict has been - don't compromise and make maximalist demands, then retreat into collective fantasy of imminent victory when reality is too painful, and refuse to engage with your adversary or even acknowledge his existence.

    This is, of course, a recipe for defeat after defeat.

    The painful process of self-reckoning, crucial to success, and the ability to compromise and be realistic, is a sign of a healthy culture. A culture in decline, does not have the strength to do this anymore.

    On the positive side, large parts of the Arab and Muslim world, have moved past this dysfunctional pattern.

    What I say is - let these poor people have their party. Don't crash it too much. Let them have their collective fantasy. It may seem sad, but it is probably healthy. People need to vent. People also need fiction and the creation of make believe worlds, often, to cope with reality.

    Eventually, they come around, or death brings them comfort in the end anyways.

    Replies: @Marcaurelius, @Victor999, @Triteleia Laxa, @A123

    , @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Check out the original blog the article was pulled from. It's maintained by some Hezbollah sympathizer in south Lebanon, though whether he's (or it might be a she) actually Lebanese or a western expat is unclear. Either way, the detachment from reality is really something to behold. (Check out the post "Jewish Terrorism" lol)

    Anyway, I can accept that the occupation is a bitch. But when pro-Palestinians give uncritical support to Hamas and wish the same (or worse) kind of destruction on Israel and Jews that they accuse Israel of having dealt out to Palestinians, they completely lose me. I think it reveals what their real priorities are.

  • From Yahoo News: Why Roma migrants from Europe are taking rafts from Mexico to enter the U.S. Wed, May 26, 2021, 3:08 AM·3 min read By Adrees Latif and Radu-Sorin Marinas ROMA, Texas (Reuters) - Among the hundreds of Central American migrants crossing the Rio Grande river daily on rafts from Mexico to Texas, dozens...
  • @Anon
    Mexico is currently allowing unrestricted tourists to fly in? Isn't there a Covid risk there? That alone is a reason to block the southern border.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    You’ve been able to go there to party for months now as a tourist from anywhere – only pretend restrictions on occupancy rates in bars. Land of the free and home of the brave.

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Michael Korn
    @Reg Cæsar

    Despotic Arab rulers don't want them, but the Palestinian cause is extremely popular with the man in the street.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Reg Cæsar

    Opinion polls have done everyone into politics a disservice. The cost of offering your “support” on a poll is zero; therefore a poll measures “support” in the same way that free lottery tickets would measure people’s propensity to gamble.

  • @AaronB
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It is the creation of a collective fantasy. A noted feature of the Middle Eastern mind, and especially the Muslim, is to retreat into fantasy when reality becomes too painful.

    They did this in 48 and 67 too. It always ends in tragedy for them.

    To be fair, large parts of the Arab/Muslim world seem to be breaking away from this dysfunctional pattern.

    I have noticed recently, that many anti-Israel commenters, led by AnonStarter, are urging people to ignore and not engage anyone who disagrees with them, because it interferes with the creation of a collective fantasy, which requires self-hypnosis.

    Refusing to engage the Israelis has also been a classic Arab strategy, almost as if they can make them not exist by pretending they don't.

    The Arab MO from the beginning of this conflict has been - don't compromise and make maximalist demands, then retreat into collective fantasy of imminent victory when reality is too painful, and refuse to engage with your adversary or even acknowledge his existence.

    This is, of course, a recipe for defeat after defeat.

    The painful process of self-reckoning, crucial to success, and the ability to compromise and be realistic, is a sign of a healthy culture. A culture in decline, does not have the strength to do this anymore.

    On the positive side, large parts of the Arab and Muslim world, have moved past this dysfunctional pattern.

    What I say is - let these poor people have their party. Don't crash it too much. Let them have their collective fantasy. It may seem sad, but it is probably healthy. People need to vent. People also need fiction and the creation of make believe worlds, often, to cope with reality.

    Eventually, they come around, or death brings them comfort in the end anyways.

    Replies: @Marcaurelius, @Victor999, @Triteleia Laxa, @A123

    My friend’s client complains to her every week about how his girlfriend isn’t answering his phone calls. He always says “despite this, she is very loving” and they “have a great connection”.

    The client cannot be shaken out of that delusion, even while, in practical terms, he sacrifices all alternatives.

    The fact underlying this sad situation is that “his girlfriend ” lives in the same city and hasn’t seen him in over a year. She only replies to a few messages. It is a complete fantasy.

    My friend wants to slap him and wake him up, but she recognises that he wouldn’t obsess over this delusion if he felt like he had a choice. The alternative, to confront himself, is too terrifying for him. He used to torture baby animals as a child, while under the care of a devouring mother…

    As scary and evil as they paint the Israelis, so much worse must be the image of themselves they hold, that they cannot bare to look at. I am glad that competence and such psychological immaturity rarely go together.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Triteleia Laxa


    As scary and evil as they paint the Israelis, so much worse must be the image of themselves they hold, that they cannot bare to look at. I am glad that competence and such psychological immaturity rarely go together.
     
    Competence cannot go together with this kind of psychological immaturity. Competence comes from a certain level of healthy detachment, which allows one to see oneself and others clearly, as well as the possibilities and limitations of ones particular situation.

    As regards their vision of the Israelis and their own self-image, it is an interesting case. On the one hand, they depict Israelis as completely evil and morally wrong. But interestingly, their fantasies of victory are not fantasies of a moral reckoning - but fantasies of competence and toughness.

    See the title and the picture in this post. In their victory fantasy, they are the ones with the guns, they are the tough ones, the dominant ones, the competent ones, the superior ones, who crush and decimate their enemies. The female Israeli soldier has her face blotted out. The Muslim woman has taken her gun.

    It is not a fantasy of morality triumphing and ushering in a period of justice and peace for all, Arabs and Jews alike. It is a victory fantasy pure and simple, of crushing ones enemies and being dominant.

    In a very naive way, their fantasies betray what they really want, and the depiction of Israel as completely morally evil and themselves as pure serves the specific function of dehumanizing an enemy so it can be crushed and obliterated without conscience.

    In other words, the depiction of Israel as wholly morally evil is not used to craft a higher, more inclusive vision of peace and justice for all, but is used rather as a dehumanizing strategy in order to more easily crush ones enemies.

    Even morality, in their hands, comes to represent it's opposite.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Marckus, @Colin Wright

  • The empirical assessment of the validity of stereotypes--or the lack thereof--is the blog's raison d'etre, so let's reclinate towards the place we began. The following graph shows how much more likely men are to say they find "slimmer women" more attractive than "chubby women", how much more likely women are to say they find "taller...
  • @Rosie
    @John Johnson


    Men are of course more likely to marry based on looks but this doesn’t mean that women are less shallow.
     
    I didn't say women are less shallow; I objected to Trinity's claim that we are more shallow.

    Women are much more critical of how other women look.
     
    So you say. Before frequenting this blog, I might have thought there might be some truth to this. No longer.

    There are shows and magazines dedicated to their desire to critique other women.
     
    Does anybody watch/read them? All I can say is this. When the fashion and cosmetics industries try to push ridiculous crap on us, someone should be talking back. By all means, don't hold back.

    https://www.journeyranger.com/stories/ridiculous-outfits-fashion-shows/

    I found this in my news feed not too long ago.

    https://www.ipsy.com/blog/grunge-makeup

    WTF? Grunge makeup?

    I was there. Here's how to get the look:

    1. Roll out of bed.
    2. Put on rumpled clothes.
    3. Brush teeth.
    4. Go find a decent, non-shallow guy who's good with how you actually look.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I would stop openly being a woman here.

    This isn’t a criticism of you, nor a form of substantive agreement with your comments.

    It is the way in which people pile in, frothing and screaming buzzword insults, that tells me being openly a woman on Unz probably isn’t worth it.

    I exclude Twinkie from this, as he is giving you as good as he gets….

    Hat tip to “some guy” for the suggestion.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I would stop openly being a woman here.

    This isn’t a criticism of you, nor a form of substantive agreement with your comments.

    It is the way in which people pile in, frothing and screaming buzzword insults, that tells me being openly a woman on Unz probably isn’t worth it.
     
    Pretending to be a man would just reinforce the idea that women are not interested in dissident views. Besides, I don’t think it would do any good anyway. Men viewed as "White Knights" are bullied and abused just as badly.
  • @Mario Partisan
    @Rosie


    Looking out for Number 1 > racial extinction.
     
    You are such a repulsive, self-absorbed, narcissist. The whole discussion you initiated here started with an inane reply to AE who made a simple observation: “Short dudes have a tough time on the dating scene.”

    Your response (in a nutshell) was: “(we?) fat chicks have it harder (so fuck those short fucks).” In justifying this position, you grasped at straws by trying to press the distinction between the prevalence of a preference versus the intensity of the preference. You said, tallness is not an “absolute requirement” for most women. Of course, no one had said it was – you were just setting up a straw man for yourself. In turn, you opined that “not obese” is an absolute requirement for men (how dare they.) In short, you have decided that the intensity of the dislike of very fat is greater than the intensity of the dislike of short. Maybe, but I would venture that you have contrary evidence right in front of your face – AE’s chart! You are going to respond that it shows prevalence not intensity. Yes, but isn’t it likely that prevalence of a preference is correlated with its importance as decision variable?

    That said, you then proceeded to grossly contradict your position – tall is not an absolute requirement for women, but “taller than me” is! Jesus Christ, what hair splitting! You even phrased it as women who “require” that the man be taller. So, what point are you trying to make, for fuck sake?

    Now, in the middle of all this, Jay Fink comes along and makes a point in your favor – “it’s just White women who make this height thing a big deal, but not Asians or Latinas; short White dudes should try dating them instead.” Very reasonable position to take and it backs your claim that the issue is more complicated than “short dudes are fucked.”

    What is your response? “How dare you Race Traitor? Just because we White women don’t want anything to do with your short, worthless ass, does not make it right for you to pursue women of other races. You need to sit there, in your lonely misery, for the glory of the Aryan race, you short little douchebag! It is better that short faggots like you go extinct than wonderful White women like me share resources with your disgusting hapa spawn. Just die you worthless dwarf!”

    Why does Andrew Anglin say the things he does about women like you, Rosie? Never mind, don’t ever try to get a clue.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Rosie

    You are such a repulsive, self-absorbed, narcissist.

    Glad this wasn’t written @ me.

    Have you ever called or been called “repulsive” in real life?

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @gleongelpi
    @Reg Cæsar

    Most Jews are Ashkenazis, therefore, they are Europeans. A considerable number of them moved from the Middle East into the Roman Empire until there were more of them outside the Middle East than in it. While in Europe, they intermingled with the local population, some becoming Christians along the way. Future waves of Jews came into Europe from the Khazarian Empire. This again intermingled with the people already living there, both Jewish and otherwise. Generally, when a non-Jewish person married a Jewish person, the non-Jewish adopted the religion of the Jewish faith. While the Khazarian influence is quite substantial, this is not due to their numbers but to the homogeneous qualities of their traditions.

    The Palestinian Arabs are the real descendants of the ancient Jews. From around the fourth century AD onwards to the Muslim invasions, the late Roman and Byzantine Empires ruthlessly tried to control the Middle East and North Africa, bringing about numerous rebellions until one was successful, a matter that Mohamed took advantage of with millions of Jews and Christians of the period readily becoming Muslims since, to the average peasant of those days, there was little difference between all of the branches of the Middle Eastern Monotheistic Religious Tradition. After all, they could not read or write, they carried their traditions orally, the religious disputes and difference being primarily a curiosity of the less than one percent of the population that had any meaningful education.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Aren’t the Palestinians Arab?

    The history of the Arabs begins in the mid-ninth century BC, which is the earliest known attestation of the Old Arabic language. The Arabs appear to have been under the vassalage of the Neo-Babylonian Empire; they went from the Arabian Peninsula to Mauritania.[1] Original Arabic tribes originated in what is now Hejaz and Yemen and then spread to levant to establish what is known the Ghassanid and Lakhmid kingdoms, in which they began to appear in the southern Syrian Desert from the mid-third century AD onward, during the mid to later stages of the Roman and Sasanian empires.[2] Tradition holds that Arabs descend from Ishmael, the son of Abraham.[3] The Syrian Desert is the home of the first attested “Arab” groups,[4][5] as well other Arab groups that spread in the land and existed for millennia.[6]

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    @Triteleia Laxa

    That's cute. If it's in italics, it must be true. Now let's check an actual source:

    Herodotus, the Father of History, writing in 450 BC, mentions "Palestine" multiple times in The History. Yet "Israel," "Judea," "Hebrews," "jews," etc... nope. Not a one.

    Huh.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Colin Wright, @Fran Taubman

    , @Colin Wright
    @Triteleia Laxa

    'Aren’t the Palestinians Arab?'

    So? What's the significance of that?

    Bretons are Celts. It doesn't follow they should all be deported to Ireland.

    Actually, and if you want to get into it all, it would appear that the bulk of those inhabitants of Palestine who practiced Judaism stayed right there in Palestine until the eighth or ninth century, when most of them appear to have converted to Islam.

    Today, they are known as 'Palestinians.' Some, of course, had become Christians -- and continued to be Christians.

    Today, they too are known as 'Palestinians.'

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @CelestiaQuesta
    @Delicious Irony

    Your comment reminded me of a Barbara Specter video, where she expels the same monolithic society coming for white Europeans, as Jews like her become the driving force for white replacement.
    It’s a small world and what goes around, comes around.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I looked up Barbara Specter. She seems to run a one woman “foundation”, on a shoestring, in Sweden.

    It gets a little funding from some rich Swede, because she brands it in a few politically correct buzzword. Its focus is on teaching the odd liberal Jew, online, about their religion.

    Why do you know about this complete nobody? It is like she runs a cornershop, has put a Pride sticker on the front window, and has gotten famous for being pro-gay. What a bizarre happenstance!

  • There's a good chance aliens exist, perhaps including in our galaxy. However, there are reasons - the Dark Forest theory, the Katechon Hypothesis - for why we should expect them to be paranoid about being detected. In contrast, MIC shilling can be rather open. It is curious that there's no media denunciation of this, as...
  • @Daniel Chieh
    @mal


    Basically, the smarter you are and the more you use the brain, the less you breed, which eliminates you from the gene pool. It is impossible to colonize the galaxy with Japanese people even with perfect technology because the quantity of Japanese is declining.

     

    I think I've heard the argument basically that the more intelligent you are, the more future planning that you do, which means that anxiety accordingly increases. At some point, anxiety becomes too high to take on risks like children.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Triteleia Laxa

    Yes, this is the case, but you can learn to access parts of yourself other than your anxious thoughts.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Triteleia Laxa

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushin_(mental_state)

    Basically, you need to understand that everything might go wrong and keep on living as if you just dont give a f*ck and as if everything will be fine forever (which of course it won't be). One has to accept the non-linear nature of Reality and embrace it.


    Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the Mind

    Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and

    I must feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines
     
    And so on, and so forth: "spiral on, keep moving"...



    https://youtu.be/Y7JG63IuaWs
  • In this video the white man's refusal to boast about his race probably strikes the black man as a white racist microaggression, and with good reason. After all, what other race turns the other cheek to racial defamation so often and attempts to appeal to (white-invented) abstract ideals of universality that only whites really find...
  • @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    “Should you feel pride” is irrelevant – and the first step towards a lie. “Do you feel pride”, is what matters.
     
    It's not irrelevant because people are constantly asking it. And why not? The place of pride - any sort: fatherly, ethnic, sporting etc - in our lives is a question that merits some reflection.

    And if someone doesn't feel pride but you believe he should, you will have to supply him with reasons. It may shock you, but people have been known to change their minds on this.

    That said, pride feelings do tend to arise spontaneously, so there's probably some limit to how much various "talk" about them will alter them; still talk can make some difference.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    People often think they need permission from society, or from “reasons”, to feel pride or indeed, any other emotion, but this is erfect midwittedness.

    Rather than beginning with what actually is, the midwit ego strives for inflation by making up a, sometimes reasonable, fantasy, that either justifies themselves or, worse, leads to them pretending to what they’re not.

    For practical purposes, you may be right though. A midwit approach will work best for most people, as they will never fully understand what I am alluding to above. Like teaching schoolchildren Newtonian physics.

  • It will come as a surprise to many that left-leaning YouGov finds net nationwide support for Texas Senate Bill 8. The pro-life bill bans abortions of fetuses with detectable heartbeats. Heartbeats become detectable as early as six weeks into pregnancy. When the bill takes effect in September it will be one of the most restrictive...
  • @nebulafox
    @Almost Missouri

    >Who relishes silencing a child’s heartbeat?

    Sociopaths. They can-potentially-find torture, rape, murder, theft downright amusing. One tell-tale sign you are around one is this: when the mask slips, they'll crack a joke about said topics that they think is hilarious but puts you off.

    And our elites-political, media, bureaucratic, and economic-seem to disproportionately consist of them. Not the greatest selection mechanism at work if you want long-term thinking either, morality aside, given how a sociopath's brain works. They aren't unintelligent, but they aren't the kind of people you want doing strategy. Tactical level is different.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @John Johnson, @Dissident

    A dark sense of humour is healthy. It shows that the person can accept the worst in humanity. It is not a sign of sociopathy at all.

    Most people who do evil cannot see evil in themselves and so do it repeatedly, because they do it unconsciously.

  • In this video the white man's refusal to boast about his race probably strikes the black man as a white racist microaggression, and with good reason. After all, what other race turns the other cheek to racial defamation so often and attempts to appeal to (white-invented) abstract ideals of universality that only whites really find...
  • @AceDeuce
    @John Johnson

    Malcolm the Tenth didn't hate all White men. Some of them he liked--a whole lot. LOLOLOLOLOL.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/19/gayrights.usa

    https://www.gaycitynews.com/malcolm-xs-queer-affinities/

    http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Malcolm_X_was_gay

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @John Johnson

    Amazing that it was just back in 2005 that Peter Tatchell could write this:

    There is not a single world-famous black person who is openly gay.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Amazing that it was just back in 2005 that Peter Tatchell could write this:

    There is not a single world-famous black person who is openly gay.
     

    Never heard of him (Tatchell). Do you have to be Nelson Mandela to be "world-famous"? James Baldwin didn't count?
  • *** * CORE. Richard Hanania - Freedom House, Woke Imperialists. Traditionally, Freedom House just penalized countries for not hewing to American geopolitical interests (e.g. see What I Learned from Freedom House…). Now, it's transitioned to also penalizing them for opposing liberal/Woke positions, such as Poland's opposition to "LGBT and gender ideology", while the "connection between...
  • @mal
    Between May 2020, and April 2021, US lost 2.1 million working age population, or about 1% in a year.

    Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States was 205446270.62596 Persons in April of 2021, according to the United States Federal Reserve. Historically, Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States reached a record high of 207555510.92749 in May of 2020 and a record low of 135237302.53426 in January of 1977.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/working-age-population-aged-15-64-all-persons-for-the-united-states-fed-data.html

    First, the good news. They didn't die of COVID or anything like that, just got old. US population continues to grow.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POPTOTUSA647NWDB

    Also, the catastrophic drop is a bit of a statistical artifact as every 10 years US has census and that always bumps the numbers up a bit, but in 2020, for the first time in history, numbers went down after the bump. If you smooth it all out, actual drop is still massive 1.2 or so million.

    If you look at the shape of the plot, and consider that US TFR went below replacement in 2008, US going to start running out of children soon, so those losses will not be replaced. Also consider that US life expectancy is not that great for a civilized county, so those population losses will start showing up among old people unless life expectancy improves or we start importing millions of immigrants. (From Africa and Afghanistan?). If not, 2030 census will show significantly lower numbers.

    Key takeaway from this is that any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics. Retired people spend about 1/3 less vs when they were employed and US labor participation rate returned to the long term downward trend on top of the absolute demographic losses.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

    The Age of the American Consumer is over.

    American Consumer was the beating heart powering global economy since 1945 (with a brief exception in 2008-2009 when Chinese investment took over for a short period). It is no more. US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030's. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    By mid 2030's, US Government will have to spend at least $10 Trillion annually or face economic difficulties. And there are only two economic objectives that can absorb this kind of cash - some kind of Universal Basic Income Scheme, or war.

    We can always reverse repo that cash at the Federal Reserve for more debt. :)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Passer by, @Mikel, @Yellowface Anon

    I assume China is also beginning to lose working age population. Given the low and shrinking TFR there, the fall will be precipitous. The EU and other developed countries are in even worse shape in this regards.

    Indian consumers will pick up some slack, but I am not optimistic as regards Africa, and nowhere else is growing.

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
    @Triteleia Laxa

    China has lots of room for productivity growth, even with a declining population, which will drive economic growth for another 15-20 years before they sink into a Japan-like stagnation.

    , @Eugene Norman
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It seems we are in an intellectual fervour of reverse Malthusianism.

    Chinese growth might slow but it’s been forgotten that they have 300M rural workers who can add value over the next few generations. The first generation moves to factories and the next become technologists or city workers. Thus their dependency ratio isn’t like the west - the ratio of really productive workers to non productive workers or people (and rural farmers add little to GDP). Effectively these rural workers are like immigrants, they can’t even travel within China right now because of the hukou system. The CCP will open this up over time.

    , @Marshal Marlow
    @Triteleia Laxa

    China has got time before its vast pool of peasants become city folk.

    But the question is, what can they do to enlarge their working class? I'm guessing that China will never go down the lets-import-foreigners trap the western world has fallen in to. But what will it do instead? I'm thinking they might find ways to actually make it viable for couples to have families by intervening in the economy in ways that enables one wage earner to afford to support a mortgage and a family of two.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  • The empirical assessment of the validity of stereotypes--or the lack thereof--is the blog's raison d'etre, so let's reclinate towards the place we began. The following graph shows how much more likely men are to say they find "slimmer women" more attractive than "chubby women", how much more likely women are to say they find "taller...
  • @Twinkie
    @res


    I just get frustrated because I think the Unz Review in general could use more women commenting to provide some balance to the points of view commonly seen here.
     
    100% agree. But women tend to be more practical than men, and I don’t see many thoughtful women wasting their time commenting here, do you? My wife is the head of a hospital, has doctorates, and has raised and homeschooled many children with me. She is also a devout Catholic and a rightist who grew up in the rural Midwest and received elite education. She would have a wealth of information and informed opinions to contribute here, but she never would. She’d rather spend another minute with her man and children than waste her time on the likes of Rosie or others of her ilk. Her constant refrain whenever I’m here is, “Stop wasting time arguing with morons on the internet.”

    There is also no shortage of dysfunctional behavior from male commenters here. I do my share at times ;-/
     
    Yes and yes. And I as well - as my part in our conversation about “iatrogenic” illness amply demonstrates. ;)

    Nonetheless men, far more than women, like to think and argue about abstract things and larger political issues,* and are thus far more likely to be found on a blog such as this. And some fraction of the men will be young and/or single and may lack the more measured view of women that men married with children may have.

    *Steven Sailer wrote a blog post or two about this - men tending to view intellectual arguments (including, yes, mockery) as a sport while women tending to perceive them in a way that he describes as “taking everything personally.” That description perfectly captures the usual dynamic between Rosie and her interlocutors (much as she’d like to retcon her behavior today, she has hurled obscenities at many more commenters than just me).

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    That description perfectly captures the usual dynamic between Rosie and her interlocutors (much as she’d like to retcon her behavior today, she has hurled obscenities at many more commenters than just me

    I don’t see her interlocutors being calm and objective, even if I do see them constantly claiming to be

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I don’t see her interlocutors being calm and objective, even if I do see them constantly claiming to be
     
    You know what's funny? I actually looked back at my original post to see if I might have worked it differently so as not to engender so much hostility.

    What I had forgotten in the middle of the rucous is that the study I posted wasn't about fat women but fat men, who apparently have a great deal of difficulty in the dating market.

    It stands to reason, of course, that women would be more accepting of short men than unfit men, but maybe the short thing rankles more because it seems more unfair or something.

    Anyway, I wonder if anyone bothered to click on that link before laying into me.

    Replies: @Some Guy

    , @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I don’t see her interlocutors being calm and objective, even if I do see them constantly claiming to be
     
    “Res” didn’t strike you as such?

    I’m going to give you the benefit of doubt as you seem to be new. There is a long history with Rosie. Check her comment history. I’m hardly the only one to whom she has acted like a scallywag. When she launches all manners of vile curse words at others, those are all just deserved or merely “a heated conversation,” but when others rebuke her, it’s all personalizing pathology. She is obviously a hypocrite of a high order, but what remains to be proven is whether she is a knowing one or a self-unaware one.

    By the way, I’ve been called a “white knight” on this site for critiquing “manosphere” tendencies and arguments, and am on record as disapproving male promiscuity (check comment history), but Rosie keeps writing that I only care about female virtue. It’s not hard to see that when she screams things such as “lying sack of shit” etc., she is consciously or unconsciously projecting.
    , @dfordoom
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I don’t see her interlocutors being calm and objective, even if I do see them constantly claiming to be
     
    What I see in these squabbles involving Rosie is a bunch of people behaving like five-year-olds.

    "You're just a big poopy-head."

    "I am not. You're the big poopy-head."

    As for Rosie, she has some eccentric views and she can be confrontational, but you could say that about at least half the commenters on UR. I do see a tendency for male commenters to pile on when Rosie says slightly outrageous things, to a much greater extent than they do with other commenters. Maybe it's not always misogyny but sometimes it sure looks like it. And Rosie's detractors do indeed often come across as hysterical and childish.

    I've had strong disagreements with Rosie in the past but I don't think they've ever reached the point of name-calling. I've found that if you disagree with her without resorting to name-calling you can have a reasonably fruitful debate with her.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Rosie, @nebulafox

  • @Twinkie
    @Feryl


    Northern Europeans and Africans tend to be tall and athletically gifted in power and strength, e.g. very masculine. East Asians are the opposite: short, soft, and not very masculine looking. East Asians can be physically graceful, but lack explosive strength.
     
    Let’s look at the sport of weightlifting at the last four summer Olympics, shall we?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics#Medal_table
    1 China 5 2 0 7
    2 Thailand 2 1 1 4
    3 Iran 2 0 0 2
    4 North Korea 1 3 0 4
    5 Kazakhstan 1 1 4 6

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics#Medal_table
    1 China 5 2 0 7
    2 Iran 3 2 0 5
    3 North Korea 3 0 1 4
    4 Poland 1 1 1 3
    5 Canada 1 0 0 1
    Chinese Taipei 1 0 0 1
    Spain 1 0 0 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics#Medalists

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics#Medalists

    In the mean time, Japan dominates both wrestling and Judo - both highly “explosive strength” sports - at both the Olympics and worlds. Both China and Japan also do very well in gymnastics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnastics_at_the_Summer_Olympics#Medal_table).

    East Asians not being good at sports is a common stereotype in the U.S. (which may have to do with the dominance of football and basketball here as well as the particular selection effect of immigrants from East Asia), but globally that stereotype doesn’t hold up.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Feryl, @nebulafox, @Triteleia Laxa

    East Asians aren’t as hopeless as Indians at sports, but they aren’t great. Being decent at an obscure one, like Olympic weightlifting in the lower weight categories, is fine, but not that great an argument for 2 billion people!

    Also, why are so many categories low weight? Most serious weightlifters, who aren’t really short, must be in the top category…

    Also, Iceland, with 300,000 people, is consistently better than China at football, with 5000 times that many. Icelandic people are weird though.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    East Asians aren’t as hopeless as Indians at sports, but they aren’t great.
     
    India in its entire modern history has garnered 9 gold medals, 7 silver, and 1 bronze at the summer Olympics.

    South Korea, with a fraction of the population of India, garnered the following in each of the last four summer Olympics:

    2016 Rio 9 gold, 3 silver, 9 bronze (8th in the world)
    2012 London 13 gold, 9 silver, 8 bronze (5th)
    2008 Beijing 13 gold, 11 silver, 8 bronze (7th)
    2004 Athens 9 gold, 12 silver, 9 bronze (9th)

    Any objective observer would conclude that South Korea is a summer Olympic powerhouse, particularly given its modest population size (Japan is not far behind and usually places in top 10 while China, of course, now routinely dominates, having placed top 5 in medal counts in all but one of the last 9 summer games and top 3 in last three games). I should note, of course, that South Korea also does well in the winter games, having placed in the top ten in five of the last eight winter games (it dominates short track speed skating, in particular).

    So “not as hopeless as India” is a gross understatement and may even be seen as a bad faith statement, designed to mislead.

    Being decent at an obscure one, like Olympic weightlifting in the lower weight categories
     
    And this is straight up a bad faith argument. “Obscure”? Weightlifting is one of the purest physical attribute sports there is - it literally measures the most weight someone can lift in each weight category.

    lower weight categories
     
    Because East Asians - on average - are not as big as certain Europeans. While Northern Chinese and Koreans are on the tall side globally (South Korean men are 1 to 1 1/2 inches shorter than American men on average today - an astounding height gain historically), Southern Chinese and Japanese are less so. They also have smaller body mass on average. So, yes, they tend to do better at lower weights in a number of sports.

    But the stereotype that East Asians are bad athletes are a trailing one from the past when their international participation was limited and in America likely from the immigration selection mechanism (as Nebulafox put it, “nerds” immigrate, not athletes) as well as two of the three main popular spectator sports (American football and basketball) here not being the most optimal ones for East Asians* (they do pretty well in the third one - baseball).

    *It’s absolutely true that East Asians do badly in short- to mid-distance running. They do respectably in endurance running, however. Americans and Westerners in general mostly remember the 1936 Berlin Olympics as the one in which Jesse Owens triumphed over the Nazis, but in the premier Olympic sport of the marathon, Koreans (subjects of the Empire of Japan at the time) won gold and bronze (Koreans subsequently garnered another gold in 1992 and a silver in 1996). Japanese have collected two silver and one bronze and also compete decently at other venues such as the Boston marathon.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • *** * CORE. Richard Hanania - Freedom House, Woke Imperialists. Traditionally, Freedom House just penalized countries for not hewing to American geopolitical interests (e.g. see What I Learned from Freedom House…). Now, it's transitioned to also penalizing them for opposing liberal/Woke positions, such as Poland's opposition to "LGBT and gender ideology", while the "connection between...
  • @Malenfant
    @silviosilver


    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

     

    The African population of Guangzhou is actually going down, and is sharply down in comparison to 10 years ago. Things are proceeding in a really quite favorable direction. Besides, the Africans currently in Guangzhou have, more often than not, a credible reason for living in China, and they're usually temporary residents -- not permanent immigrants.

    If there's one thing you can't fault China for, it's immigration policy. To say that China is "not avoiding" the “swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians trap" is simply an absurdity.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    China is still far from a developed country. Its wage suppressing migration can be internal. This means that most immigrants are import/export businessmen. I wonder if it will change as the economic incentives for the richest Chinese change.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  • So desperately I sing to thee of good news that may not come as too much of a surprise to readers of comment sections anywhere--left, right, or otherwise: It's easy to despair over the increasing intellectual totalitarian absurdity of The Great Awokening. That despair might be justified. But the inanity could also be indicative of...
  • I don’t think you read his comment correctly. You seem to be incorrect, even opposite, in your interpretation of it, in a number of ways.

  • The empirical assessment of the validity of stereotypes--or the lack thereof--is the blog's raison d'etre, so let's reclinate towards the place we began. The following graph shows how much more likely men are to say they find "slimmer women" more attractive than "chubby women", how much more likely women are to say they find "taller...
  • @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    East Asians aren’t as hopeless as Indians at sports, but they aren’t great.
     
    India in its entire modern history has garnered 9 gold medals, 7 silver, and 1 bronze at the summer Olympics.

    South Korea, with a fraction of the population of India, garnered the following in each of the last four summer Olympics:

    2016 Rio 9 gold, 3 silver, 9 bronze (8th in the world)
    2012 London 13 gold, 9 silver, 8 bronze (5th)
    2008 Beijing 13 gold, 11 silver, 8 bronze (7th)
    2004 Athens 9 gold, 12 silver, 9 bronze (9th)

    Any objective observer would conclude that South Korea is a summer Olympic powerhouse, particularly given its modest population size (Japan is not far behind and usually places in top 10 while China, of course, now routinely dominates, having placed top 5 in medal counts in all but one of the last 9 summer games and top 3 in last three games). I should note, of course, that South Korea also does well in the winter games, having placed in the top ten in five of the last eight winter games (it dominates short track speed skating, in particular).

    So “not as hopeless as India” is a gross understatement and may even be seen as a bad faith statement, designed to mislead.

    Being decent at an obscure one, like Olympic weightlifting in the lower weight categories
     
    And this is straight up a bad faith argument. “Obscure”? Weightlifting is one of the purest physical attribute sports there is - it literally measures the most weight someone can lift in each weight category.

    lower weight categories
     
    Because East Asians - on average - are not as big as certain Europeans. While Northern Chinese and Koreans are on the tall side globally (South Korean men are 1 to 1 1/2 inches shorter than American men on average today - an astounding height gain historically), Southern Chinese and Japanese are less so. They also have smaller body mass on average. So, yes, they tend to do better at lower weights in a number of sports.

    But the stereotype that East Asians are bad athletes are a trailing one from the past when their international participation was limited and in America likely from the immigration selection mechanism (as Nebulafox put it, “nerds” immigrate, not athletes) as well as two of the three main popular spectator sports (American football and basketball) here not being the most optimal ones for East Asians* (they do pretty well in the third one - baseball).

    *It’s absolutely true that East Asians do badly in short- to mid-distance running. They do respectably in endurance running, however. Americans and Westerners in general mostly remember the 1936 Berlin Olympics as the one in which Jesse Owens triumphed over the Nazis, but in the premier Olympic sport of the marathon, Koreans (subjects of the Empire of Japan at the time) won gold and bronze (Koreans subsequently garnered another gold in 1992 and a silver in 1996). Japanese have collected two silver and one bronze and also compete decently at other venues such as the Boston marathon.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    And this is straight up a bad faith argument. “Obscure”? Weightlifting is one of the purest physical attribute sports there is – it literally measures the most weight someone can lift in each weight category.

    If you think that me saying Olympic weightlifting is an obscure sport makes for a “bad faith statement”, I cannot have a reasonable conversation with you. I don’t know a single person who could name a single Olympic weightlifter, or recognise them, and most would be unsure if it is even an event. It is absurdly obscure.

    I get that this is an extremely emotional issue for you, but your wounding has nothing to do with me.

    If you want to continue, you could reformulate your reply to something not hysterical.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s bad faith, because popularity of the sport in question has little to do with whether the sport measures physical attributes (in this case pure strength) well or not.


    I don’t know a single person who could name a single Olympic weightlifter
     
    Do you know a single person who can name an Olympic 800 meter event winner? Yet this is one of the best sports for measuring mid-distance running ability. Calling the event obscure since 99.9% of human being don’t know the name of a single competitor doesn’t make it any less of one of the best measures of (mid-distance) running speed among humans.

    I get that this is an extremely emotional issue for you, but your wounding has nothing to do with me.

    If you want to continue, you could reformulate your reply to something not hysterical.
     

    Extremely emotional? Wounding? Hysterical? That’s just sad and desperate, frankly, on your part. I’m giving you data (Olympic medals, etc.) and reasoned arguments based on them, and you are trying to portray me as if this is some personal psych hang up, because you don’t have a good argument backed by data.

    If you want to continue
     
    I see now that you are a kindred spirit with Rosie. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Triteleia Laxa

  • @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s bad faith, because popularity of the sport in question has little to do with whether the sport measures physical attributes (in this case pure strength) well or not.


    I don’t know a single person who could name a single Olympic weightlifter
     
    Do you know a single person who can name an Olympic 800 meter event winner? Yet this is one of the best sports for measuring mid-distance running ability. Calling the event obscure since 99.9% of human being don’t know the name of a single competitor doesn’t make it any less of one of the best measures of (mid-distance) running speed among humans.

    I get that this is an extremely emotional issue for you, but your wounding has nothing to do with me.

    If you want to continue, you could reformulate your reply to something not hysterical.
     

    Extremely emotional? Wounding? Hysterical? That’s just sad and desperate, frankly, on your part. I’m giving you data (Olympic medals, etc.) and reasoned arguments based on them, and you are trying to portray me as if this is some personal psych hang up, because you don’t have a good argument backed by data.

    If you want to continue
     
    I see now that you are a kindred spirit with Rosie. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Triteleia Laxa

    You think you give logical and fact-based arguments, but you don’t really. It is all motivated reasoning directed by an unexamined emotional core. Enjoy your mid-life crisis, whenever it hits.

    Are you really going to repeat that the idea that Olympic weightlifting is obscure is so absurd that it must be “a bad faith” argument? This was our disagreement, not all of the flapping that you have done after.

    Do you also notice how you constantly change the goalposts? How your data doesn’t actually relate to the point? How you tie yourself in knots? How your first response was a hysterical reaction?

    Mid-life crisis is coming soon…check back in if you need help.

    sad and pathetic

    Sorry for you. You’ll be seeing yourself this way over the next couple of years. Don’t worry though, it is all just your own judgement and not true. You’ll eventually be fine.

    • Troll: Twinkie
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Triteleia Laxa


    You think you give logical and fact-based arguments, but you don’t really. It is all motivated reasoning directed by an unexamined emotional core.
     
    Nobody actually bases their views on logic or fact. All views on political, social or cultural issues are fundamentally emotional. But everyone likes to believe that his own views really are based on logic and facts while his opponent's views are based on pure emotion.

    When it comes to political, social and cultural issues there is no objective truth. There is only opinion. And those opinions are always based on emotion.

    And most people have no self-awareness in this area.

    What I do notice is that the people here who are most inclined to criticise Rosie for making emotion-based arguments are themselves equally guilty on that score.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @nebulafox

  • @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s bad faith, because popularity of the sport in question has little to do with whether the sport measures physical attributes (in this case pure strength) well or not.


    I don’t know a single person who could name a single Olympic weightlifter
     
    Do you know a single person who can name an Olympic 800 meter event winner? Yet this is one of the best sports for measuring mid-distance running ability. Calling the event obscure since 99.9% of human being don’t know the name of a single competitor doesn’t make it any less of one of the best measures of (mid-distance) running speed among humans.

    I get that this is an extremely emotional issue for you, but your wounding has nothing to do with me.

    If you want to continue, you could reformulate your reply to something not hysterical.
     

    Extremely emotional? Wounding? Hysterical? That’s just sad and desperate, frankly, on your part. I’m giving you data (Olympic medals, etc.) and reasoned arguments based on them, and you are trying to portray me as if this is some personal psych hang up, because you don’t have a good argument backed by data.

    If you want to continue
     
    I see now that you are a kindred spirit with Rosie. Good luck with that.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s bad faith, because popularity of the sport in question has little to do with whether the sport measures physical attributes (in this case pure strength) well or not.

    This isn’t why you said it was bad faith – you said it was bad faith because it wasn’t obscure.

    Nor is it why it being obscure is relevant. My implied point was about the number of people and funding that goes into developing the competitors. You just launched into a emotional reaction and imagined a whole bunch of stuff.

    You are not acting like someone it is possible to reasonably disagree with.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Triteleia Laxa

    In case you need it Twinkie, here is my original post for you to show that you can be reasonable with, and not just launch into a battle with your own demons.

    East Asians aren’t as hopeless as Indians at sports, but they aren’t great. Being decent at an obscure one, like Olympic weightlifting in the lower weight categories, is fine, but not that great an argument for 2 billion people!

    Also, why are so many categories low weight? Most serious weightlifters, who aren’t really short, must be in the top category…

    Also, Iceland, with 300,000 people, is consistently better than China at football, with 5000 times that many. Icelandic people are weird though.

    , @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    You just launched into a emotional reaction and imagined a whole bunch of stuff.
     
    Stuff… like data?

    Three seemingly breathless replies full of personal attacks to one comment certainly seems… what’s the word you used, “hysterical”?


    My implied point was about the number of people and funding that goes into developing the competitors.
     
    No such point was stated by you previously nor implied.

    But now that you raised it, I’ll answer. Of course funding and development matter, but they matter more for sports that have multiple variables (such as game-planning and strategy in addition to physical attributes, technique, etc. - e.g. tennis). But certain sports are much more (almost entirely) dependent on physical attributes alone (with a bit of technique on top). Most running sports are like that (e.g. the 100 meter dash being won consistently by West African-descended) for measuring human speed. And the same goes for weightlifting for measuring human strength. Such events are great for detecting physical attribute variations among different population groups.

    Dismissing such measures by calling them “obscure” rather than countering with contrary facts and data shows that you simply don’t want to “lose” by deviating from your previously staked out position, rather than honestly deal with the data. Compounding the bad faith on your part is your attempt to malign me by using words such as emotional and hysterical when I have been nothing but data-backed.


    You are not acting like someone it is possible to reasonably disagree with.
     
    Three replies to my one comment and you haven’t provided a single data point in them. As I wrote earlier, if you want to go Rosie-mode, be my guest.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @Triteleia Laxa
    @Twinkie


    It’s bad faith, because popularity of the sport in question has little to do with whether the sport measures physical attributes (in this case pure strength) well or not.
     
    This isn't why you said it was bad faith - you said it was bad faith because it wasn't obscure.

    Nor is it why it being obscure is relevant. My implied point was about the number of people and funding that goes into developing the competitors. You just launched into a emotional reaction and imagined a whole bunch of stuff.

    You are not acting like someone it is possible to reasonably disagree with.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Twinkie

    In case you need it Twinkie, here is my original post for you to show that you can be reasonable with, and not just launch into a battle with your own demons.

    East Asians aren’t as hopeless as Indians at sports, but they aren’t great. Being decent at an obscure one, like Olympic weightlifting in the lower weight categories, is fine, but not that great an argument for 2 billion people!

    Also, why are so many categories low weight? Most serious weightlifters, who aren’t really short, must be in the top category…

    Also, Iceland, with 300,000 people, is consistently better than China at football, with 5000 times that many. Icelandic people are weird though.

  • @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    You just launched into a emotional reaction and imagined a whole bunch of stuff.
     
    Stuff… like data?

    Three seemingly breathless replies full of personal attacks to one comment certainly seems… what’s the word you used, “hysterical”?


    My implied point was about the number of people and funding that goes into developing the competitors.
     
    No such point was stated by you previously nor implied.

    But now that you raised it, I’ll answer. Of course funding and development matter, but they matter more for sports that have multiple variables (such as game-planning and strategy in addition to physical attributes, technique, etc. - e.g. tennis). But certain sports are much more (almost entirely) dependent on physical attributes alone (with a bit of technique on top). Most running sports are like that (e.g. the 100 meter dash being won consistently by West African-descended) for measuring human speed. And the same goes for weightlifting for measuring human strength. Such events are great for detecting physical attribute variations among different population groups.

    Dismissing such measures by calling them “obscure” rather than countering with contrary facts and data shows that you simply don’t want to “lose” by deviating from your previously staked out position, rather than honestly deal with the data. Compounding the bad faith on your part is your attempt to malign me by using words such as emotional and hysterical when I have been nothing but data-backed.


    You are not acting like someone it is possible to reasonably disagree with.
     
    Three replies to my one comment and you haven’t provided a single data point in them. As I wrote earlier, if you want to go Rosie-mode, be my guest.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Ok, so you can change course, even if you can’t acknowledge your mistakes or apologise. Good!

    Less good that you need to continue to make me your own demon though….

    You get a C+!

    Such events are great for detecting physical attribute variations among different population groups.

    Olympic weightlifting at the lower weight categories is a single data point. It is a very small one too.

    Almost no one tries to compete in it. It relies on being short, having a prideful government and probably a lot of scientific chemical assistance. In the huge ocean of competitive sports, it represents a few drops.

    There is one, I think, East Asian (out of 2 billion people) world renowned sportsman in my lifetime and I am not even sure he was very good (Yao Ming).

    Maybe there are others, but tiny European, Latin American and African countries have more.

    Would that one even be famous if he weren’t the sole East Asian who succeeded at a sport anyone cares about?

    One world renowned sportsmen from 2 billion people is the data point. Your obsession with Olympic weightlfiting for short people is funny.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Your obsession with Olympic weightlfiting for short people is funny.
     
    It was among several sports I brought up. *You* picked it out among the list and focused on it.

    Judo is the Olympic sport with the greatest number of participant nations in the world (yeah, I bet you didn’t know that - look it up). I’m actually obsessed with Judo.

    There is one, I think, East Asian (out of 2 billion people) world renowned sportsman in my lifetime and I am not even sure he was very good (Yao Ming).
     
    You don’t know much about sports, do you? You seem comically ignorant about it.

    In the huge ocean of competitive sports, it represents a few drops.
     
    Did you not read the parts of my comments where I discuss how East Asian nations have done at the Olympics, not just in weightlifting? Summer Olympics has over 300 events.

    Which has more statistical validity globally in evaluating human group physical attribute variation, two popular sports in one country or three hundred plus sports participated by over 200 countries?

    Learn to stop digging when you are in a hole.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Almost no one tries to compete in it. It relies on being short, having a prideful government and probably a lot of scientific chemical assistance.
     
    No question about that.

    Very informative video (the title is a bit misleading)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLweuRSD9M

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    relies on being short, having a prideful government and probably a lot of scientific chemical assistance.
     
    No question about that.

    Very informative video (the title is a bit misleading)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLweuRSD9M
  • @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Your obsession with Olympic weightlfiting for short people is funny.
     
    It was among several sports I brought up. *You* picked it out among the list and focused on it.

    Judo is the Olympic sport with the greatest number of participant nations in the world (yeah, I bet you didn’t know that - look it up). I’m actually obsessed with Judo.

    There is one, I think, East Asian (out of 2 billion people) world renowned sportsman in my lifetime and I am not even sure he was very good (Yao Ming).
     
    You don’t know much about sports, do you? You seem comically ignorant about it.

    In the huge ocean of competitive sports, it represents a few drops.
     
    Did you not read the parts of my comments where I discuss how East Asian nations have done at the Olympics, not just in weightlifting? Summer Olympics has over 300 events.

    Which has more statistical validity globally in evaluating human group physical attribute variation, two popular sports in one country or three hundred plus sports participated by over 200 countries?

    Learn to stop digging when you are in a hole.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Your tone is almost adult now. I’ll upgrade you to a B+.

    I appreciate that you think that almost a third of the world’s population is good at sports because they do pretty well at the Olympics. In particular, you are very keen to highlight that East Asians are competitive at short people weightlifting and fighting with Judo.

    Your argument restals on these being highly competitive, prestigious and not, in any way, niche. It reminds me of that guy who went on and on about African Scrabble players. Maybe he is right, but colour me unconvinced.

    To avoid this picking over scraps, I will settle for you telling me 5 internationally well-known East Asian athletes, just 5, and we will see how that third of the world’s population punches…

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    you think that almost a third of the world’s population is good at sports because they do pretty well at the Olympics.
     
    That’s not what I wrote. That’s a stupid and transparent straw man.

    I know you are just an ignorant troll, but for the benefit of others, I’ll write my actual view on this in greater detail.

    Racial differences are environmental adaptation differences. These shape the genes which in turn shape the environment (in the form of society/culture). So it is absolutely true that there are average physical attribute differences among population groups. Bell curve distributions being what they are, this means certain groups will be overrepresented at the extreme edges for each attribute.

    So, for example, West Africans are much more likely to have fast twitch muscles and their athletic elite will be highly represented in sprinting sports or those in which short-distance running is crucial (including basketball and American football). Meanwhile, East Asians have the fastest average reaction time and do well in athletic endeavors that utilize that attribute (table tennis, fencing, Tae Kwon Do, etc.). Western Europeans - esp. their descendants who live in warm coastal areas - are highly optimized for swimming, for example (long limbs, but not super dense bodies; East Asians do worse than whites in swimming, but much better than Africans - look at the Olympic records). In another interesting attribute - endurance running (marathon) ability - Highland East Africans generally dominate, but there have been occasional successful competitors from other countries such Italy and South Korea/Japan (what do they all have in common? They are all very mountainous).

    For raw strength (weightlifting) East Asians seem to dominate in lower weight categories while Eastern Europeans and Iranians dominate in heavier categories. These results are pretty consistent over time. Meanwhile many other sports have multiple, complex variables. Judo and wrestling for example, require certain optimized combinations of strength, quickness (or explosive strength) as well as good timing/reaction speed, full-body coordination, and excellent technical skill set as well as strategy. Yet in other sports, team cohesion and cooperation ability are factored in. Yet other sports require high visuo-spatial ability over other physical attributes (shooting, archery, golf, etc.). And, of course, are are also numerous cultural and economic factors that vary.

    To summarize, my view is that athletic attributes are definitely unevenly distributed among different population groups and answering “who is more athletic” depends highly on what type of sport (and the attendant attributes) is being used as the measuring stick. As regards East Asians, there is a selection bias and sampling bias (and filter bias) in the U.S. that doesn’t give an accurate impression of their average athletic ability. Simply because East Asians aren’t good at two popular American sports doesn’t mean that they don’t have higher degrees of attributes that make them successful in other athletic endeavors, as amply demonstrated by their excellent performance at the Olympics.

    well-known
     
    Well-known by whom? You? 95% of people who don’t know much about sports beyond what they see on TV occasionally?

    Here are the sports in which China has won the most at the Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport

    Japan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport

    Go ahead - tell me that gymnastics, wrestling, weightlifting, etc. don’t represent athletic ability.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    you think that almost a third of the world’s population is good at sports because they do pretty well at the Olympics.
     
    That’s not what I wrote. That’s a stupid and transparent straw man.

    I know you are just an ignorant troll, but for the benefit of others, I’ll write my actual view on this in greater detail.

    Racial differences are environmental adaptation differences. These shape the genes which in turn shape the environment (in the form of society/culture). So it is absolutely true that there are average physical attribute differences among population groups. Bell curve distributions being what they are, this means certain groups will be overrepresented at the extreme edges for each attribute.

    So, for example, West Africans are much more likely to have fast twitch muscles and their athletic elite will be highly represented in sprinting sports or those in which short-distance running is crucial (including basketball and American football). Meanwhile, East Asians have the fastest average reaction time and do well in athletic endeavors that utilize that attribute (table tennis, fencing, Tae Kwon Do, etc.). Western Europeans - esp. their descendants who live in warm coastal areas - are highly optimized for swimming, for example (long limbs, but not super dense bodies; East Asians do worse than whites in swimming, but much better than Africans - look at the Olympic records). In another interesting attribute - endurance running (marathon) ability - Highland East Africans generally dominate, but there have been occasional successful competitors from other countries such Italy and South Korea/Japan (what do they all have in common? They are all very mountainous).

    For raw strength (weightlifting) East Asians seem to dominate in lower weight categories while Eastern Europeans and Iranians dominate in heavier categories. These results are pretty consistent over time. Meanwhile many other sports have multiple, complex variables. Judo and wrestling for example, require certain optimized combinations of strength, quickness (or explosive strength) as well as good timing/reaction speed, full-body coordination, and excellent technical skill set as well as strategy. Yet in other sports, team cohesion and cooperation ability are factored in. Yet other sports require high visuo-spatial ability over other physical attributes (shooting, archery, golf, etc.). And, of course, are are also numerous cultural and economic factors that vary.

    To summarize, my view is that athletic attributes are definitely unevenly distributed among different population groups and answering “who is more athletic” depends highly on what type of sport (and the attendant attributes) is being used as the measuring stick. As regards East Asians, there is a selection bias and sampling bias (and filter bias) in the U.S. that doesn’t give an accurate impression of their average athletic ability. Simply because East Asians aren’t good at two popular American sports doesn’t mean that they don’t have higher degrees of attributes that make them successful in other athletic endeavors, as amply demonstrated by their excellent performance at the Olympics.

    well-known
     
    Well-known by whom? You? 95% of people who don’t know much about sports beyond what they see on TV occasionally?

    Here are the sports in which China has won the most at the Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport

    Japan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport

    Go ahead - tell me that gymnastics, wrestling, weightlifting, etc. don’t represent athletic ability.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    You have a number of defence mechanisms against being wrong. Boring autistic download is my least favourite.

    Well-known by whom? You? 95% of people who don’t know much about sports beyond what they see on TV occasionally

    Yes, because those are the most competitive and well remunerated; hence they are well the best athletes are. Can you name just 5 East Asian world known sportsmen now?

    • Troll: Twinkie
  • @Twinkie
    @silviosilver


    Can’t be bothered googling, but it sounds rather doubtful. Throwing someone doesn’t burn as much energy as you think.
     
    I’m guessing you never did Judo or wrestled. First of all, doing Nage-Komi 1,000 times is intensely exhausting. It’s a lot more energy intensive on all parts of your body than running. You just have no clue if you haven’t done it (esp at high speed). And that’s the warm-up part.

    Then when you do Randori (sparring), you burn an enormous amount of calories even when you and your opponent seem to be “just gripping or holding each other” to the outside observer. Why? Because there is constant Kuzushi (pulling and pushing to unbalance the opponent) from each other. You see, you can’t actually throw someone who is centered well and is settling his weight onto his feet. You have to unbalance him first. So players are constantly pulling and pushing each other non-stop. It’s incredibly exhausting. In Japan and Korea, Randori alone is often 3 hours a day for competitive athletes. That’s crazy savage.

    Lol, Joe Rogan and his bullshit
     
    Rogan may be a meathead, but he is also a legit 10th Planet BJJ black belt (and former Mass. state champion in TKD in his youth). He will mess you up in all kinds of ways easy in a fight. He know a lot about combat sports and what it takes to excel in them. His interlocutor in that video is a former SEAL and also a BJJ practitioner.

    I think it’s possible they still might.
     
    I agree, because Euro bodies are very well-optimized for cycling (long legs, but not as dense/heavy as blacks).

    Lol. China and Iran are hardly known in the sport for the strictness of their testing protocols. Rather the opposite.
     
    They aren’t self-tested at the Olympics. Do you seriously think that their PED use, if any, is more sophisticated and detection-proof than the Russian one? I think that’s unlikely. Their rise and sudden drop of Russians coincided perfectly with much stricter testing at the Olympics.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @silviosilver

    Do you seriously think that their PED use, if any, is more sophisticated and detection-proof than the Russian one? I think that’s unlikely. Their rise and sudden drop of Russians coincided perfectly with much stricter testing at the Olympics.

    The Olympics testing can be worked around by any amateur with a brain; nevermind the CCP

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    The Olympics testing can be worked around by any amateur with a brain; nevermind the CCP
     
    I see you have never been tested for PEDs. I have. It’s a lot more strict than sensationalist media portray (they use containers that can’t even be opened without breaking the whole thing). But let’s assume you are right. If it’s that easy, then everyone is on it (like in cycling), then it’s even playing field again. Or are you suggesting the Chinese and the Iranians are disproportionately benefiting from PEDs over the Russians, for example?

    Replies: @silviosilver

  • @Rosie
    @Twinkie

    I am going to try to be nice and respond to this post Ina civil manner, on the assumption that you are open to my response.


    just outright ignores data
     
    I do not "ignore data." I object when others draw unwarranted conclusions from the data, such as "short men have it especially rough." If you believe otherwise, you are duty-bound to provide specific instances to support this allegation so that I can defend myself or acknowledge my error.

    but most of us who are older and married tend to be pretty White Knight-ish on women AND discourage male promiscuity.
     
    I don't accuse of you of having an outright double standard, Twinkie. My concerns about your views on "virtue" are as follows:

    1. There are Seven Cardinal Virtues.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/19/85/4f19851a83ae70758290c53a6342a701.jpg

    The upshot of all this, of course, is that you have a duty to both be the best you can be, and be aware of your weaknesses, and remain humble regardless of your success or lack thereof. I recognize this is a difficult balance, but you have the duty to attempt it in any case.

    My impression, correct me if I'm wrong, is that you are only concerned with those virtues that you feel give you license to sneer at others. I see little evidence of any attempt on your part to cultivate humility or kindness to others.

    2. Your position seems functionally indistinguishable from the old double standard. Lip service has always been paid to the importance of male chastity, while in practice, "boys will be boys" was the order of the day. I see no way to prevent a resurgence of this absent formal sanctions for promiscuity, which you adamantly oppose even as you insist that promiscuity is an urgent social problem.

    You know perfectly well that informal sanctions will only ever apply to women, who, of course, will not enjoy the procedural protections that (overwhelmingly male) criminal defendants can take for granted. We say that it's better to let 10 guilty men go free than to punish one who is innocent. I agree with this, and support strict due process for all, without exception for thosee accused of rape. Yet, you seem to have no concern at all, setting aside entirely the question of the double standard, that innocent girls might suffer as a result of being victims of slanderous gossip.

    3. You claim to be a Christian, but then you seem to deny the restoring power of God's grace to heal old wounds. I don't understand this.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Twinkie, @iffen

    I see no way to prevent a resurgence of this absent formal sanctions for promiscuity

    You see a way to impose “formal sanctions for promiscuity”?

    No thanks

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Triteleia Laxa


    You see a way to impose “formal sanctions for promiscuity”?

     

    If I'm not mistaken, formal sanctions for promiscuity have been the historical norm. From the Bible:

    Deuteronomy 22:28–29 — New Living Translation (NLT)
    28 “Suppose a man has intercourse with a young woman who is a virgin but is not engaged to be married. If they are discovered, 29 he must pay her father fifty pieces of silver. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he may never divorce her as long as he lives.

    Seduction was a tort at common law.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_(tort)#:~:text=5%20Notes-,Legal%20basis,interest%20in%20his%20daughter's%20chastity.&text=(Fathers%20could%20still%20sue%20as,but%20not%20always%20a%20virgin%22.

    I take no position on whether there should or should not be formal sanctions for promiscuity.

    All I say is that, if there are to be sanctions, they should be of the formal type where due process and equal protection of the laws must be requested.

    The Volunteer Auxiliary Morality Police want to have it both ways. They want to insist that women who are not virgins are "damaged goods," but then deny women any compensation for their damages or any protection from criminal law.
  • @Twinkie
    @dfordoom


    But everyone likes to believe that his own views really are based on logic and facts while his opponent’s views are based on pure emotion.
     
    It’s like this: you are essentially arguing that everyone thinks, subjectively, that he drives at the right speed - that those who drive slower are stupid and those who do so faster are crazy. Yes, this subjectivity is true. Most everyone thinks that. Yet, some of them are actually right in that they drive at the appropriate speed, the speed most optimized for not getting into accidents, but also for getting to places efficiently.

    Even if you don’t subscribe to an enduring, eternal Truth as I do, you should at least subscribe to the idea that some speeds are more appropriate than others, rather than the idea that no speed might be appropriate since everyone is subjective. Some do get closer to objectivity than others and strive to get closer to it still even if none of us can actually reach the state of perfect objectivity.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @dfordoom

    Objectivity is possible. Reality does exist. You’re just entirely incapable of noticing your own emotional impulses, when it comes to politics, so they own your arguments completely.

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    • Troll: Twinkie
  • @nebulafox
    @Feryl

    Can confirm: my father was 6'4. His ethnic group has been noted for height, even on European/African standards, but he stood out. Much like IQs over 140, I don't think people appreciate how rare 6'4, 6'5 heights really are.

    (I'm not quite that tall, but my brothers and I are all over 6'. I'm actually the shortest of my siblings. And yes, this is a genetic gift I both don't deserve and have spectacularly wasted.)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Nothing is wasted. You had different challenges to overcome and lessons to learn. Probably best you identify what they were and appreciate their gravity, as this kind of easy self-disgust hurts.

    • Thanks: nebulafox
  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @James Forrestal
    @Triteleia Laxa

    That's cute. If it's in italics, it must be true. Now let's check an actual source:

    Herodotus, the Father of History, writing in 450 BC, mentions "Palestine" multiple times in The History. Yet "Israel," "Judea," "Hebrews," "jews," etc... nope. Not a one.

    Huh.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Colin Wright, @Fran Taubman

    Arabs did not exist in that land prior to Mohammed’s conquests.

    The Palestinians call themselves Arabs, speak Arabic and look like Arabs. They also worship the main Arabic God. The adopted moniker of “Palestinian” is the only evidence I have that they are not.

    So are they? I don’t know.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Triteleia Laxa

    'Aren’t the Palestinians Arab?'

    So? What's the significance of that?

    Bretons are Celts. It doesn't follow they should all be deported to Ireland.

    Actually, and if you want to get into it all, it would appear that the bulk of those inhabitants of Palestine who practiced Judaism stayed right there in Palestine until the eighth or ninth century, when most of them appear to have converted to Islam.

    Today, they are known as 'Palestinians.' Some, of course, had become Christians -- and continued to be Christians.

    Today, they too are known as 'Palestinians.'

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I never said it meant anything at all. That is your fantasy. As is the rest of your post, which may be entirely invented. I really don’t know and don’t care. I just got confused because Palestinians say they are Arabs and yet Arabs most certainly did not live in the region until much later than it was called that.

    You seem to have a very strong narrative in your head about that part of the world? Why is that?

  • @silviosilver
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, I agree with your characterization of Benny Morris and with your logic.

    Although Benny Morris was accused of being anti-Zionist radical when he first documented the expulsions of Arabs, this 2004 Haaretz interview (reproduced at Counterpunch) makes his Zionist credentials very, very clear.

    Some excerpts:

    Ben-Gurion was a “transferist”?

    “Of course. Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood that there could be no Jewish state with a large and hostile Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It would not be able to exist.”

    I don’t hear you condemning him.

    “Ben-Gurion was right. If he had not done what he did, a state would not have come into being. That has to be clear. It is impossible to evade it. Without the uprooting of the Palestinians, a Jewish state would not have arisen here.”

    You went through an interesting process. You went to research Ben-Gurion and the Zionist establishment critically, but in the end you actually identify with them. You are as tough in your words as they were in their deeds.

    “You may be right. Because I investigated the conflict in depth, I was forced to cope with the in-depth questions that those people coped with. I understood the problematic character of the situation they faced and maybe I adopted part of their universe of concepts. But I do not identify with Ben-Gurion. I think he made a serious historical mistake in 1948. Even though he understood the demographic issue and the need to establish a Jewish state without a large Arab minority, he got cold feet during the war. In the end, he faltered.”

    I’m not sure I understand. Are you saying that Ben-Gurion erred in expelling too few Arabs?

    “If he was already engaged in expulsion, maybe he should have done a complete job. I know that this stuns the Arabs and the liberals and the politically correct types. But my feeling is that this place would be quieter and know less suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @AaronB, @Art

    Benny Morris seems to have learned a lesson that all humans could learn. Walking a mile in someone else’s shoes will bring out all sorts of dark truths. We judge what we don’t understand.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Yes, I agree. That is the reason I came to support what I refer to as the "pro-white side" - in order to distinguish it from the "neo-nazi side," which I certainly don't support, though the difference between the two is often a matter of judgment.

    I quoted what I thought were the most extreme excerpts from that interview in order to back up Colin's point that Morris is totally in the Zionist camp, and therefore if he says certain atrocities were committed by Jews, you can be certain that at least that much occurred.

    In contrast, with a softie like Ilan Pappe, one might be tempted to think he's skewing the account to make Israel look worse than it was.

    (You've got to watch this Pappe's talks. He'll give a talk in the west, some university or whatever, and there'll be hardcore Palestinians in the audience, probably staring daggers at the Jewish panel the whole time through, and they'll ask these extremely pointed questions at the end - with only slight exaggeration, of the nature "so when will Israel agree to dismantle itself?" - and there's the Jewish panelists, looking almost frozen, unsure how to respond, probably wondering wtf they got themselves into, or maybe thinking "gosh, it wasn't supposed to go like this." But how the hell wasn't it? You give them all the ammo they could possibly wish for and you refuse to contextualize it, instead giving them free rein to condemn mid-20th century Levantine political actions based on 21st century libtard values, how can it possibly turn out any differently?)

    So I'm with Morris on this. Put the truth out there, and contextualize it, and have faith that this can be done. Let the Colin Wrights and the Phil Giraldis and whoever have their massacres and their expulsions and their what have yous. So what? None of it is fatal to Israel. If anything, it leads to a better understanding of why Israel has had little choice but to take the course it has been taking.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Triteleia Laxa

  • From The New Yorker: This is reminiscent of Theodore Dalrymple's experience as a doctor in Africa: Unlike in South Africa, where salaries were paid according to a racial hierarchy (whites first, Indians and coloured second, Africans last), salaries in Rhodesia were equal for blacks and whites doing the same job, so that a black junior...
  • I knew a guy from that background, but his father was wealthy. He asked his father for money for various hare-brained business schemes over the years. Eventually the father said, “just write me a business case”. The guy then promptly asked me to write it for him.

    I downloaded a template for a simple one and offered to sit with him and write it on a number of occasions. Somehow this never happened. He always seemed to think that I should just write it for him as it would be easy for me. I doubt he got that “investment money” to this day.

    Great satire, only you made the barriers to entry too hard. This guy was educated and not totally irresponsible, but a 3 page business case, like the one you would write for a lemonade stand, was too much for him.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Triteleia Laxa


    This guy was educated and not totally irresponsible, but a 3 page business case, like the one you would write for a lemonade stand, was too much for him.
     
    It would have required abstract thought. Not everybody is capable of that.
    , @Lurker
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The fact that it occurred to him to get someone competent (you), to write it for him was a positive sign though. At least it showed he was self-aware.

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Colin Wright
    @silviosilver

    '...Let the Colin Wrights and the Phil Giraldis and whoever have their massacres and their expulsions and their what have yous. So what? None of it is fatal to Israel. If anything, it leads to a better understanding of why Israel has had little choice but to take the course it has been taking.'

    In a perverse way, you're right.

    Yes, having committed a grossly unjust act of theft, Israel is perpetually forced to resort to oppression, cruelty, and violence to enforce it.

    But this does not somehow demonstrate that the oppression, cruelty, and violence is justified. It demonstrates the fundamental evil of the act of theft, and the need to reverse it.

    If I take your house, and keep you as a slave in the basement, no doubt I'll have to put bars on the windows, force you to wear a shock collar to keep you from crying out, and whatever.

    But this does not prove the bars and shock collar are necessary. It proves that you should get out of my house and let me have it back.

    The Jews in Palestine could easily be resettled in the United States and elsewhere. They should be. There's no justification for continuing to inflict them on the Palestinians.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Commentator Mike, @Triteleia Laxa

    Why would the Jews of Israel agree to your plan to “resettle them”, or, just as likely, murder them all?

    I am not making a moral judgement against either parts of your plan. I am just wondering if you think that your argument, that their ancestors took some desperate measures in desperate times, will persuade them all to just jump off a cliff?

    It seems to me that the Palestinians have lost hard. I don’t see some tremendous moral case to be made for them either, I just see a leadership that has lacked the courage to explain to their people their defeat, and so they continually snatch a worse one from the jaws of peace. I probably wouldn’t have the courage either, but, from Israel’s perspective, they one day will.

    This reduces Palestinians to living in a fantasy world, egged on by oddball internet Nazis and other deluded miscreants, who just want to watch the world burn. Let’s all be honest.

    The most dementing fact of which, is that they lack the courage to admit to themselves that this is what they want, so they have to engage in endless moralistic Jeremiads and drive themselves ever crazier in the process.

    The Jeremiads serve the function of putting their shadow desires for blood and fire into some other force’s hand; sadly such dishonesty hollows out an individual and so I doubt it benefits their personal lives and general sense of feeling, one iota.

    Either everyone needs to focus elsewhere and the Israel-Palestinian factions can sort themselves out, or it is 1967+ for Israel and we do the same, or it bleeds on until the Palestinians get an even worse deal. Unless you can find a huge army willing to suffer ridiculous casualties in order to kill millions of Jews, Israel isn’t agreeing to anything less favourable than 1967+; as the current situation is probably preferable to even that.

    If your voice matters, where do you want it to weigh in this appraisal of reality? Do you really want what little impact it has to continue to encourage the Palestinians into the jaws of even worse defeat? Does it make you feel good?

    Or maybe that is the point, and you just love it all, like people love WWE…

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Thank you. Your posts are brilliant.

    , @Fran Taubman
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Either everyone needs to focus elsewhere and the Israel-Palestinian factions can sort themselves out, or it is 1967+ for Israel and we do the same, or it bleeds on until the Palestinians get an even worse deal. Unless you can find a huge army willing to suffer ridiculous casualties in order to kill millions of Jews, Israel isn’t agreeing to anything less favourable than 1967+; as the current situation is probably preferable to even that.
     
    The problem with this conflict is that people become fixated with a specific historical event to declare their moral vision. You have to look at the entire history, then you realize there is no clear moral winner, on either side.

    By far the biggest crimes against humanity were executed by the Arab League, who let refugees rot in camps as political footballs, and thought little for their welfare. They made claims about routing out the Jews without the proper protection for the locals. It was criminal, how they left the population with no protection.

    The part of the story most overlooked is the desperation and maniacal focus and intensity of the Holocaust survivors towards achieving a sovereign Jewish state. No matter what it was going to happen. The post holocaust psyche of the Jew produced a metaphysical Jew who was more animal than human, the were not going anywhere. It is not clearly understood when you get cartoon characters like Colin who thinks the Jews are going to pack up like summer camp and leave. People just cannot reconcile the mental state of post holocaust Jewry towards a sovereign Jewish state.

    Ironically the Jihadist like Taxi only rally the world towards the Jews. No one wants to see another holocaust and that is what the Axis of Resistance and the dismantling of Israel means. They think they can put a positive spin on it with the Al -Quds is holy to us explanation, but really want they are talking about is extermination of the Jews in Israel.

    People looking at the situation now are going to be shocked at just how far Israel has come in archiving a complete takeover of the land. No one in Israel is going to cede one square inch of land. Israel withdrew from Gaza and got Hamas. That is the end of land for peace. Israel is looking at one state with village like autonomy for the Palestinians who wish to accept the Jewish state and live in peace.

    At some point some one has got to look at Jordan the biggest colonial construct in the ME as a Palestinian state. Trans Jordan was part of the original mandate designated for the Jews. The only answer is Jordan. The Hashemites and their Kings are colonial make pretend. When Natafli Bennet becomes PM, Israel will drop the two state solution lip service and explain the real situation to the world. Which I think should be done know. Enough of the bullshit. Israel is done with the Palestinians and their desire for state with in Israel proper, and they will not be intimidated by world opinion.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Triteleia Laxa

    'Why would the Jews of Israel agree to your plan to “resettle them”, or, just as likely, murder them all?'

    As it is -- even with all the support we give them -- forty percent of the Jews in Israel say that they would leave if only they could.

    I'm confident that if we simultaneously pulled the plug on Israel and made it clear that they were welcome to emigrate to the United States, Canada, Australia, or any European country that would have them that the Jewish population of Palestine would fall to a tiny fraction of what it is now within a decade.

    There are difficult and baffling problems confronting humanity. Israel is not one of them. All that one takes is the desire to permit a solution. Let the Jews leave.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @sb

  • @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Yes, I agree. That is the reason I came to support what I refer to as the "pro-white side" - in order to distinguish it from the "neo-nazi side," which I certainly don't support, though the difference between the two is often a matter of judgment.

    I quoted what I thought were the most extreme excerpts from that interview in order to back up Colin's point that Morris is totally in the Zionist camp, and therefore if he says certain atrocities were committed by Jews, you can be certain that at least that much occurred.

    In contrast, with a softie like Ilan Pappe, one might be tempted to think he's skewing the account to make Israel look worse than it was.

    (You've got to watch this Pappe's talks. He'll give a talk in the west, some university or whatever, and there'll be hardcore Palestinians in the audience, probably staring daggers at the Jewish panel the whole time through, and they'll ask these extremely pointed questions at the end - with only slight exaggeration, of the nature "so when will Israel agree to dismantle itself?" - and there's the Jewish panelists, looking almost frozen, unsure how to respond, probably wondering wtf they got themselves into, or maybe thinking "gosh, it wasn't supposed to go like this." But how the hell wasn't it? You give them all the ammo they could possibly wish for and you refuse to contextualize it, instead giving them free rein to condemn mid-20th century Levantine political actions based on 21st century libtard values, how can it possibly turn out any differently?)

    So I'm with Morris on this. Put the truth out there, and contextualize it, and have faith that this can be done. Let the Colin Wrights and the Phil Giraldis and whoever have their massacres and their expulsions and their what have yous. So what? None of it is fatal to Israel. If anything, it leads to a better understanding of why Israel has had little choice but to take the course it has been taking.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Triteleia Laxa

    Yes, describing such actions without context is a form of demonisation; and it encourages the least psychologically capable to bring out their own demons in return.

    One of the most dangerous aspects of the progressive narrative in the US is how it actively punishes context. Context is “diminishing lived experience “, or some other trash.

    Haidt and Lukianoff got it exactly right when they pointed out that progressive talking points nowadays look a lot like the inverse of how you help troubled teens with CBT and DBT. It is a philosophy of personal derangement.

    Or like telling a jilted wife to ignore her own actions and instead to obsessively ruminate on her ex-husband’s minor malfeasances.

    In all of these cases, you’ll find that the moral judgements and allegations get ever more extreme and the emotional turbulence and unknowing self-destruction more wild.

    You can help people trapped in this spiral in a number of ways. You can hold a mirror up to them, even amplify them, and hope they recognise themselves. You can put distance between them and the person/people they have demonised, so that they can eventually reflect. Or you can just help yourself and stay the f*ck away from them. It is therefore a very tricky problem when it is one of domestic politics and mass movements! It is long past time that the media showed progressive behaviour, without judgement or commentary, as it is on the ground at its most voluministic; so everyone, and even they, can see.

    I suspect they don’t, because they harbour their own Hitler in the darkest parts of their soul, and subconsciously they fear this apparition will get out if they see too much. Instead, they avoid what will trigger their repressed racism and project it onto ordinary white Americans, thereby encouraging #BLM activists to behave in ways ever more likely to bring out the repressed racism in people. What a mess!

    • Thanks: AaronB
    • Replies: @Taxi
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Identitarianism in America is a jewish project. Don't pretend you don't know this already.

    Fortunately, it's backfiring on the jewish community. Poetic justice and all that jazz.

    All your talmudic projects in America and around the world have either fallen flat on their face, or showing cracks in the corners and center.

    And it will be getting worse for the syngogue of satan from here on.

    In the end, your only choice would be to give up that vile, racist, genocidal talmud. The most evil book pretending to be a religion that was ever writ.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Yes, describing such actions without context is a form of demonisation; and it encourages the least psychologically capable to bring out their own demons in return.
     
    I wrote the following reply because I misread you as accusing me of demonisation and failing to provide context. I'll post it as written, since it contains a couple of points I wanted to make anyway and I can't be bothered rewriting it:

    Well, if I were addressing the mass public, I wouldn't exactly lead off with those comments, you know, lol.

    But anyway, I explained why I quoted Morris that way [to demonstrate his zionist credentials]. And even then, those quotes were not without context, since a careful reading would show that Morris did indeed attempt to situate his views within the historical development of the conflict. He wasn't just saying, "They're scum, get rid of them, any excuse will do."

    If that's not context enough, then I wonder just what would be? I have a funny feeling that for some people no amount of contextualizing would ever be enough, so better to just leave those facts buried. That approach - Jews accepted partition, Arabs didn't, QED - has obviously paid off, but people can increasingly see through it, so even at the risk of inflaming "the least psychologically capable" certain facts should be brought out into the light.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @Taxi
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Identitarianism in America is a jewish project. Don't pretend you don't know this already.

    Fortunately, it's backfiring on the jewish community. Poetic justice and all that jazz.

    All your talmudic projects in America and around the world have either fallen flat on their face, or showing cracks in the corners and center.

    And it will be getting worse for the syngogue of satan from here on.

    In the end, your only choice would be to give up that vile, racist, genocidal talmud. The most evil book pretending to be a religion that was ever writ.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Identitarianism in America is a jewish project.

    I was reformulating Jonathan Haidt’s critique of identitarianism. He’s Jewish and it is the one which I find the most compelling. I am therefore unlikely to believe that identitarianism is a “Jewish project”.

    talmudic projects in America and around the world have either fallen flat on their face, or showing cracks in the corners and center.

    I know a Jewish woman. I asked her if she knew what the Talmud was. She considers herself religious and is extremely intelligent and well-educated, but she told me that she had “a copy”.

    I asked to see it. She promptly fetched a thin book, which she thought was “the Talmud”, rather than a tiny primer in English.

    I doubt most Jews have any more idea about that millenia long commentary on the Old Testament than the ordinary Christian does about St Augustine of Hippo’s voluminous tracts!

    The most evil book pretending to be a religion that was ever writ.

    I am informed by Unz.com that some Rabbi, a thousand years ago, wrote some unpleasant things about his Christian neighbours. I believe that everything in the Talmud can be argued against, as it is merely a collective commentary, and I notice that Jews argue against similarly medieval statements quite a lot. I don’t see the big deal.

    [MORE]

    Maybe Jews control the US and they want to take the West Bank for themselves, I cannot disprove you, but I wonder why they didn’t just take it in the 2000s or 90s when US global hegemony was extreme? It would be a lot easier to persuade a domestic audience to allow that than to, as you allege, force some alien and toxic ideology on them.

    I don’t know how you can consider Jews to be your enemy, them to be all powerful and demonic, you to be totally innocent and meek, and recognise that you’re absolutely fine regardless.

    If the US government were out to kill me and were utterly psychotic and ruthless, then I would be dead. Either they aren’t out to get me, or they aren’t psychotic or ruthless at all.

    • Thanks: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Taxi
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Evidently, you're very satisfied with your shallow research.

    You might want to look into the massive dollars that Soros injected into BLM almost a year before the eruption of protests and the death of George Floyd.

    BLM were a nobody in their fledgling years; they were flat broke and going nowhere before Soros' involvement. BLM's only claim to fame pre Soros was their invasion of Bernie Sanders' stage during one of his outdoor speeches in Seattle back in 2015.

    You might also be interested to know that pre-Soros, the original and non-celebrity (at the time) BLM went to Ramallah to meet with Palestinians to show solidarity, and upon their return to the US, the jewy msm, as punishement, just stopped writing about them for several years, hence BLM's dwindling fortunes at the time. Enter then Soros who showered them with dollars on condition that they drop the raised Black fist logo that used to be prominently featured right on top of their website's home page. BLM did exactly that for Soros. They allowed him to 'repackage' them for mass consumption. (I mean what jew wants to see a Black fist raised in rebellion, right? Lol). The jews and the Blacks got very cozy for a good year, but alas, no Black can tolerate 'Apartheid' and so come the Sword of Jerusalem and with it the exposure of israel as an Apartheid State, hence the present the deep shit that jews are now in with the Black American community. Here is your perfect example of the magic turning against the magician.

    And don't start me on the gender-bender identitarians and jewy Hollywood's involvement in its promotion etc.

    Perhaps you should stop reading the usual pseudo, over-thought out garbage by jewish 'analysts' and pursue a wider range of literature and writers on your topics of interest. The jews say a thousand words and only mean one. Fucking tedious, time-wasting bunch.

    And you underplaying the talmud in jewish life is a 'nice try'. The jewishvirtuallibrary online specifically states that the talmud is the 'cultural centerpiece' of jewish life, even for atheist jews.

    Am not going to bother walking the rest of your bridge-to-nowhere commentary.

    Replies: @Michael Korn, @Triteleia Laxa

  • From Nature ecology & evolution: Do you ever get the impression that the goal is to spread ignorance? For example, printing a choropleth map with the South on top makes everybody feel more virtuous, but it's cognitively exhausting to get any information out of it. It's easier to make sense of it even with the...
  • @Wilkey
    @Dave Pinsen

    The Peters Projection was a big obsession of my (minority) history teacher back in the early 90s, when I was in high school.

    Personally I’m all for adopting it, since it would make more people realize just how much of the earth these poor little Third World people actually control. Latin America is literally twice as large as the United States. Africa is almost exactly three times as large as Europe. They already control all of that territory, and now they want to take what we have.

    I suspect that’s exactly the reason the Left has stopped pushing the issue. Making people more aware of the geographical reality will make them less sympathetic to the mass invasion of the Third World, not more.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Mr. Anon, @Charlotte

    Personally I’m all for adopting it, since it would make more people realize just how much of the earth these poor little Third World people actually control. Latin America is literally twice as large as the United States. Africa is almost exactly three times as large as Europe. They already control all of that territory, and now they want to take what we have.

    I’m pretty sure that the Congo has just as many amazing cities, cultural creations and vibrancy as Western Europe, which it is almost the size of. We just don’t teach about it in schools because we’re racist.

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Taxi
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Evidently, you're very satisfied with your shallow research.

    You might want to look into the massive dollars that Soros injected into BLM almost a year before the eruption of protests and the death of George Floyd.

    BLM were a nobody in their fledgling years; they were flat broke and going nowhere before Soros' involvement. BLM's only claim to fame pre Soros was their invasion of Bernie Sanders' stage during one of his outdoor speeches in Seattle back in 2015.

    You might also be interested to know that pre-Soros, the original and non-celebrity (at the time) BLM went to Ramallah to meet with Palestinians to show solidarity, and upon their return to the US, the jewy msm, as punishement, just stopped writing about them for several years, hence BLM's dwindling fortunes at the time. Enter then Soros who showered them with dollars on condition that they drop the raised Black fist logo that used to be prominently featured right on top of their website's home page. BLM did exactly that for Soros. They allowed him to 'repackage' them for mass consumption. (I mean what jew wants to see a Black fist raised in rebellion, right? Lol). The jews and the Blacks got very cozy for a good year, but alas, no Black can tolerate 'Apartheid' and so come the Sword of Jerusalem and with it the exposure of israel as an Apartheid State, hence the present the deep shit that jews are now in with the Black American community. Here is your perfect example of the magic turning against the magician.

    And don't start me on the gender-bender identitarians and jewy Hollywood's involvement in its promotion etc.

    Perhaps you should stop reading the usual pseudo, over-thought out garbage by jewish 'analysts' and pursue a wider range of literature and writers on your topics of interest. The jews say a thousand words and only mean one. Fucking tedious, time-wasting bunch.

    And you underplaying the talmud in jewish life is a 'nice try'. The jewishvirtuallibrary online specifically states that the talmud is the 'cultural centerpiece' of jewish life, even for atheist jews.

    Am not going to bother walking the rest of your bridge-to-nowhere commentary.

    Replies: @Michael Korn, @Triteleia Laxa

    I find your post indistinguishable from that of someone having a mental breakdown. Need I say more?

    • Troll: Taxi, Michael Korn
    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You should change your handle to TRITE LAXATIVE because the BS just explodes out of your oral cavity! 😂

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @Taxi
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Just look at how anti-intellectual you REALLY are. Don't like a point of view? Then quickly call the source "mental", or an 'antisemite'. Yeah the jews are real smart, right? LOL!

    Enjoy your mental ghetto.

  • It's been decades since I last read George Orwell's 1984, but portions of that classic dystopian novel have become part of our common political culture. There's that famous scene in which an orator is giving a lengthy wartime speech at a political rally, praising the heroic ally of Eurasia and denouncing the arch-foe of Eastasia,...
  • @Ron Unz
    @anonymous


    Why rogue rather than part of the regular organization? There’s an assumption that the regular folks there wouldn’t do something like this since they are assumed to be decent people when in fact they’ve been engaged in the business of killing people worldwide on both wholesale and retail levels.
     
    Let me clarify what I meant by "rogue elements"...

    Trump's behavior almost certainly indicates that he didn't authorize the attack, which makes it a "rogue operation" by definition. However, I suspect that it has orchestrated by senior people in his administration, perhaps with someone like (former CIA Director) Pompeo as the ringleader. Probably only a handful of plotters were involved.

    However, these individuals were high enough in the government that they could then recruit for the actual operation numerous elements of our national security apparatus, who were told it was a fully authorized undertaking. For example, the Ft. Detrick labs probably provided the virus and release mechanism, CIA or special forces contributed the operatives who traveled to Wuhan, and so forth.

    All of these other individuals knew exactly what they were doing, and indeed they had spent years training or developing exactly these capabilities. What they didn't know was that the people directing them had *not* received presidential authorization for the attack on our main geopolitical rival.

    It's basically a Dr. Strangelove-type scenario, brought to real life.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Triteleia Laxa, @Bolteric, @Makemyday

    Do you appreciate that this theory has no more evidence for it than a handful of inevitable coincidences?

    I say “inevitable ” because with any event of this size, there will be many seemingly coincidental occurrences, and these ones are very minor.

    To take an example, you make a big deal out of the military games taking place in Wuhan, very vaguely, at the time which Covid-19 got started; but China is not North Korea, and US citizens go to China, and Wuhan, all of the time.

    It is extremely easy to visit China and be anonymous when doing so. If anything, the rough coincidence, of the US military-affiliated athletes being there, argues against US seeding.

    You only need one person to seed a virus and that person could have gone there whenever. They would have therefore chosen any other time.

    A much more obvious coincidence is Covid appearing in the same city as the Chinese lab that would be most likely to have developed it.

    Now you might argue that this is why the US seeded it there, but the US did not set the location of the military games, so that would defeat your previous coincidence.

    Ultimately, this is all just internet fantasy, but, clearly, a virus which the Chinese were well-equipped to deal with, originating in the same city as the lab which they would develop it in, and which, in every country, has least affected people of East Asian genetic descent, would more obviously be a Chinese lab leak than anything else artifical.

    • Agree: Spect3r
  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You should change your handle to TRITE LAXATIVE because the BS just explodes out of your oral cavity! 😂

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Perhaps you too appreciate Milton references? There’s a scene similar to what you describe.

    Honestly, though, my handle is from media far lower brow.

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I don't like to attack you but I can't stand it when people sit comfortably in their American homes mocking the savage suffering in Palestine.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Yes, describing such actions without context is a form of demonisation; and it encourages the least psychologically capable to bring out their own demons in return.
     
    I wrote the following reply because I misread you as accusing me of demonisation and failing to provide context. I'll post it as written, since it contains a couple of points I wanted to make anyway and I can't be bothered rewriting it:

    Well, if I were addressing the mass public, I wouldn't exactly lead off with those comments, you know, lol.

    But anyway, I explained why I quoted Morris that way [to demonstrate his zionist credentials]. And even then, those quotes were not without context, since a careful reading would show that Morris did indeed attempt to situate his views within the historical development of the conflict. He wasn't just saying, "They're scum, get rid of them, any excuse will do."

    If that's not context enough, then I wonder just what would be? I have a funny feeling that for some people no amount of contextualizing would ever be enough, so better to just leave those facts buried. That approach - Jews accepted partition, Arabs didn't, QED - has obviously paid off, but people can increasingly see through it, so even at the risk of inflaming "the least psychologically capable" certain facts should be brought out into the light.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I wrote the following reply because I misread you as accusing me of demonisation and failing to provide context. I’ll post it as written, since it contains a couple of points I wanted to make anyway and I can’t be bothered rewriting it:

    Makes sense. Sorry for the confusion.

    certain facts should be brought out into the light.

    I don’t know what should be done, really about anything at all. I barely know what I should do this afternoon!

    I am also not sure if those facts are particularly obscured. 1948 was a long time ago. The existence of intercommunal violence, in a small scale conflict, way back when, need not be obscured to be ignored.

    I do agree though that European countries could benefit from a strong dose of realism, and that this could help.

    When you have moral pedants, unable to even enforce their own borders, because enforcement looks like it always does, you will probably suffer the consequences.

    Maybe an almost random approach to who can enter your country is best, but it seems extremely unlikely. All reason says that a strongly discriminatory regime would produce far better results.

    This is what I do for my friends, employees and romantic partners; but maybe I am doing it wrong and I should follow the progressive immigration line and just go with whomever turns up?

  • The following series of graphs show contemporary American views on past (and present) US wars by partisan affiliation. Pat Buchanan was fighting an uphill battle with Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War: Vietnam is the least popular war over at least the last century and change, the second world war perceived to be the most...
  • The US exited WW2 in glory and global power. I can see how ordinary Americans think it was worth it. Buchanan faced an unenviable task.

    Similarly, the other wars appear to be as popular as it is likely that the respondees perceive the US to have won them. I suspect that the natural buzz around those, rather than victory per se, determines popular attitudes to them, especially the further back in the past they are.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I don't like to attack you but I can't stand it when people sit comfortably in their American homes mocking the savage suffering in Palestine.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Where did I do that?

  • From a reader: But don't forget the Bob Meusels and Tony Lazerris of this powerhouse lineup. Memorial Day can be repurposed for celebrating all the tranny hookers murdered by their johns, while flag day (June 14) can be retconned to commemorate the invention of the rainbow gay flag in San Francisco in 1978.
  • Pride, self-esteem, validation, they are all things which some people need, but that need is a warning sign. The bigger it is, the bigger the warning sign too.

    If someone needs to be celebrated by society for the sex they choose to sleep with, or told they are wonderful because of the colour of their skin, or fed stories of oppression, so that they can be mediocre, yet consider themselves superior, then that is OK, even if it discourages them from self-reflection. Not everyone has the courage right now, or resilience.

    My concern is that accompanying those participation medals, with actual power, is like trying to quench a fire, by pouring on gasoline.

    Perhaps my concern is wrong, but then murders would have gone down after Floyd’s death set off another black self-esteem and empowerment year; instead, they exploded.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "Floyd’s death set off another black self-esteem and empowerment year; instead, they exploded." TPTB know this and encourage it. Same with the Alphabet pride bs. More depressed people on various meds.

  • Several things are happening simultaneously. Most important, Israel has lost the public opinion war in much of the world through its brutality during the recent attack on Gaza and it continues to lose ground even in the wake of a cease fire due to mass arrests of Palestinians and armed police intrusions in and around...
  • Several recent mea culpa’s for criticizing Israel have made the news as has also the virtual crucifixion of a congresswoman for her citation of the holocaust.

    What is a “virtual crucifixion”?

  • The following series of graphs show contemporary American views on past (and present) US wars by partisan affiliation. Pat Buchanan was fighting an uphill battle with Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War: Vietnam is the least popular war over at least the last century and change, the second world war perceived to be the most...
  • @allahu akbar
    @nebulafox

    The U.S. and Japan are doing that because Taiwan's independence is indefensible, and will inevitably be part of the PRC.

    Taiwan is doing that because other countries would have eventually just broken the patents and subsidized the production/technology domestically.

    You imply that the U.S. leaving Asia is a choice. You have no idea what is coming.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    You have no idea what is coming.

    What is coming? And how do you know about it?

  • Transhumanism, at its most basic level, is about extending human capabilities through technology. In a sense, it has always been with us since at least the invention of fire. As David Landes notes, the invention of eyepieces in Renaissance Italy de facto doubled the productive life expectancy of artisans that relied upon fine motor skills...
  • “Transhumanism” as merely the tag, applied to the coming links, of a long chain of human technological progress, stretching back thousands of years, is a useful conceptualisation. It makes things clearer. Thank you AK.

    It renders nationalists, who oppose it, like the Japanese of the Sakoku period. They would fix their nations in time, thereby rendering them vulnerable to obsolescence in the future.

    This is interesting, because most philosophical nationalists seem to consider their nation like a person, or an organic entity; which makes their dislike, of a nation’s self-directed growth, equivalent to a fat diabetic who refuses to lose weight, as it would be change, and “change is a self-betrayal.”

    Nationalists can choose this path, but, like the diabetic, their nations will suffer the consequences.

  • @Xi-Jinping
    @songbird

    Nah. Potato wasnt a significant factor - potatoes are about as nutritious as rice and just as easy to grow and as ubiquitous. So why did Asia not become Europe and industrialize? Because it did not plunder the wealth and manpower of other peoples.

    In fact the potatoe came from the New World and was a product of colonialism itself (just like everything else Europe got). So that inadvertently supports my point - that Europe would have been a poor backwater without colonialism.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @songbird

    Nah. Potato wasnt a significant factor – potatoes are about as nutritious as rice and just as easy to grow and as ubiquitous. So why did Asia not become Europe and industrialize? Because it did not plunder the wealth and manpower of other peoples

    I can see how inventing all of the amazing technology that Europeans invented, would help to plunder the wealth of peoples. I cannot see how it would work the other way around though.

    Can you explain how you see a pile of silver turning into the agricultural revolution for me, as an example?

    This is important because it was obviously technology that drove European industrialisation, not something like slavery. As we can see from low labour cost nations, slavery is a strong disincentive for industrialisation; while technology is the requisite.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin, mal
    • Replies: @Xi-Jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Europeans did not invent most of the technology though. At best they innovated it.

    For example, gun powder (and guns) were invented by the Chinese and came to Europenas part of the silk road. The compass was also invented by the Chinese and were introduced to Europe through Arab merchants via the silk road. The printing press existed in China almost 1000 years before it arrived in Europe. Etc.

    Point is - Asia was far ahead of Europe in technology. Even in sailing technology was China ahead until the 18th century (from which Europeans began to steal ideas). Hoever, Chinese emperors ended up closing off from the rest of the world and did not become explorers like the European. The discovery of the New World (that Europe reached in leaky buckets - wherein Asia was fielding fleets of ships with crews of hundreds of peoples) led to the discovery of massive amounts of uncultivated fertile land and large amounts of silver that the Europeans could sell abroad (namely to Asia). Using slave labor to cultivate agriculture and selling silver in asia and selling slaves gave huge rates of returns and caused the development of proto-capitalism - freeing up labor for industrialization (with ideas stolen from the East that the Europeans acquired with their silver amongst other things). This excess silver was part of the factors that led to the collapse of the Chinese economy (and the Qing Dynasty), and opium wars that essentially propelled Europe to be number 1.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @dfordoom
    @Triteleia Laxa


    This is important because it was obviously technology that drove European industrialisation
     
    But why did Europeans develop that technology? Why didn't the Chinese, given that they're every bit as smart as Europeans? What was different about Europe? Was it the Reformation? Did that lead to the scientific revolution which led to the technological revolution?

    Was it some significant difference in the European economic system? Proto-capitalism? Was it the political system?

    Replies: @mal, @HenryBaker

    , @Boomthorkell
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I think the above comment you were responding to also forgets that Asia was plundering its own wealth, in that sense. I mean, China was never at a loss for cheap labor or riches, really. It was, however, at a loss for steam engines and rifles.

    India too, now that I think about. India was probably better placed than most for pulling off an Industrial revolution eventually (if I had to put it on any non-Europeans.) Japan would be a close second (after meeting Indian steamships.)

    It's almost as if the true answer lies somewhere between "Guns, Germs and Steel", that one Libertarian competitor of it, and HBD. Ha ha ha.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Daniel Chieh

  • @Xi-Jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Europeans did not invent most of the technology though. At best they innovated it.

    For example, gun powder (and guns) were invented by the Chinese and came to Europenas part of the silk road. The compass was also invented by the Chinese and were introduced to Europe through Arab merchants via the silk road. The printing press existed in China almost 1000 years before it arrived in Europe. Etc.

    Point is - Asia was far ahead of Europe in technology. Even in sailing technology was China ahead until the 18th century (from which Europeans began to steal ideas). Hoever, Chinese emperors ended up closing off from the rest of the world and did not become explorers like the European. The discovery of the New World (that Europe reached in leaky buckets - wherein Asia was fielding fleets of ships with crews of hundreds of peoples) led to the discovery of massive amounts of uncultivated fertile land and large amounts of silver that the Europeans could sell abroad (namely to Asia). Using slave labor to cultivate agriculture and selling silver in asia and selling slaves gave huge rates of returns and caused the development of proto-capitalism - freeing up labor for industrialization (with ideas stolen from the East that the Europeans acquired with their silver amongst other things). This excess silver was part of the factors that led to the collapse of the Chinese economy (and the Qing Dynasty), and opium wars that essentially propelled Europe to be number 1.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    You make a distinction between “innovation ” and “invention” that is without a difference.

    You also seem to have a limited understanding of the technological progress involved in industrialisation. The avalanche of European invention was exceptional.

    You later offer a narrative whereby silver and cheap, or free, labour leads to automation, because “it freed up labour”, but that makes no sense.

    Slavery clearly disincentivises automation and the inventors who drove automation, during industrialisation, were not peasants liberated from the plough.

    In fact, the entrepreneurial spirit, that was engaged in exploring the world for silver and negotiating deals with African Chiefs for their captured enemies, before they were ritually executed, is exactly that which would have sped up industrialisation were it not, instead, diverted to the short-term gains of imperialism.

    Necessity is the mother of all invention and free labour and mountains of silver greatly reduced the necessity for technological progress, even as technological progress made it greatly easier to acquire free labour and mountains of silver.

    [MORE]

    It seems to me that you have started with your ideology and tried to make your observations on reality fit it. Perhaps try to look at reality first and then pick your ideology. It will work better.

    Or perhaps you need to believe what you believe to gain some sense of pride by proxy? In which case, I would advise you address that need by means more satisfying and personal than creating fantasy narratives of history where those you identify with are oppressed geniuses and everyone else only did anything because they were bad people.

    • Replies: @Xi-jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa


    You make a distinction between “innovation ” and “invention” that is without a difference.
     
    There is a huge difference between 'invention' and 'innovation'. Invention is the creation of something new, where nothing existed before. Innovation is improving on an existing technology.

    The avalanche of European invention was exceptional.
     
    European invention occurred late and had been invented elsewhere before, but was stolen or re-invented in Europe later.

    You later offer a narrative whereby silver and cheap, or free, labour leads to automation, because “it freed up labour”, but that makes no sense.
     
    How does it make no sense? Silver that they sold to Asia, allowed the Europeans to sustain their exploration/colonies, which also allowed them to invest in new cost saving ideas so that they could gain even more profits. Cheaper labor and excess land (in the New World) allowed for extensive agricultural cultivation (more than they would be able to at home), which meant that the land that they would use at home would be used for cash crops (like cotton) for example.

    Slavery clearly disincentivises automation and the inventors who drove automation, during industrialisation, were not peasants liberated from the plough.
     
    By that logic, the European colonial states would have never industrialized once the slave trade started. But we saw the opposite - it only accelerated industrialization. It was a source of cheap labor for industrialists that would allow them to further save costs. This is what we see in Chinese industrialization currently - cheap labor allows for more manufactering as early industrialists are able to save costs and accumulate capital.

    In fact, the entrepreneurial spirit, that was engaged in exploring the world for silver and negotiating deals with African Chiefs for their captured enemies, before they were ritually executed, is exactly that which would have sped up industrialisation were it not, instead, diverted to the short-term gains of imperialism.
     
    Except for the part where the Chinese had already established extensive trade networks as far as Europe and covered most of Africa with Somalia becoming a powerful trade hub thanks to Chinese shipping. Under the Ming dynasty, Chinese merchants had landed as far as Madagascar establishing extensive trade networks as they went.

    There was also extensive inter-African trade both across the Sahara and some African empires even had extensive trade fleets (such as Axum) establishing trade with India and even the Byzantine Empire. Next, Swahili polities were trading with India and the Middle East.

    Point is this - there was no 'European entreprenurial spirit', everyone else had one too if not more so than the Europeans.

    It seems to me that you have started with your ideology and tried to make your observations on reality fit it. Perhaps try to look at reality first and then pick your ideology. It will work better.
     
    I think you are talking about yourself. You have some incorrect view of European exceptionalism that you greatly wish to be true to give yourself a sense of exceptionalism. But this only serves to illustrate your poor knowledge of history.
  • It wasn’t only physical technology either, but also social innovation that drove industrialisation and allowed colonisation. The roots of this all go back a long way, as shown in the following two paragraphs:

    As early as the 12th century, some fields in England tilled under the open field system were enclosed into individually owned fields. The Black Death from 1348 onward accelerated the break-up of the feudal system in England. Many farms were bought by yeomen who enclosed their property and improved their use of the land. More secure control of the land allowed the owners to make innovations that improved their yields. Other husbandmen rented property they “share cropped” with the land owners. Many of these enclosures were accomplished by acts of Parliament in the 16th and 17th centuries.

    The process of enclosing property accelerated in the 15th and 16th centuries. The more productive enclosed farms meant that fewer farmers were needed to work the same land, leaving many villagers without land and grazing rights. Many of them moved to the cities in search of work in the emerging factories of the Industrial Revolution. Others settled in the English Colonies.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Xi-jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa


    It wasn’t only physical technology either, but also social innovation that drove industrialisation and allowed colonisation.
     
    But China was also ahead in these metrics as well:

    "the Chinese economy was not stagnant, and in many areas, especially agriculture, was ahead of Western Europe.[101] Chinese cities were also ahead in public health."

    According to Paul Bairoch, in the mid-18th century, "the average standard of living in Europe was a little bit lower than that of the rest of the world."

    During the Song Dynasty (960–1279), the country experienced a revolution in agriculture, water transport, finance, urbanization, science and technology, which made the Chinese economy the most advanced in the world from about 1100. Mastery of wet-field rice cultivation opened up the hitherto underdeveloped south of the country

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Michael Korn
    @Anne Lid


    It does not matter that half of them (women) never even read the Talmud, because the general attitude towards goyim, especially Christians flowed from the rabbies to their disciples to their daughters.
     
    This is a very insightful comment. Are you perhaps Jewish? Here's a story to confirm your thesis:

    Once when I was ultra Orthodox and married to an IDF girl who had become religious, we went shopping at the local supermarket. My wife at that time (4/6) hated Arabs and had an extreme settler mentality. All the packers in the store were Palestinians, and for some reason she thought the person helping us was intentionally dawdling so she started cursing him out in front of the entire store. I got really POd at her and told her to shut up and then walked off alone. We only lived a ten minute walk away but it was night and by the time she caught up with me she was livid claiming I had abandoned her to possibly be raped or assaulted. (Yeah right, we lived in an ultra Orthodox neighborhood.) I ended up spending the night away from home and not long after that we were divorced.

    For every settler who assaults an Arab burns down his olive trees and steals his animals and water, there is a fat Frau back home cheering him on. I suspect the women harbor the greatest hatred because they feel weaker and more vulnerable anyway. In Jewish mysticism men are considered kind but women harsh and vindictive.

    Another story. When I wrote to my oldest daughter, whose mom had divorced me and was living in a ultra Hassidic community, at the occasion of her wedding, I sent her a blessing and a gift and also told her that I had converted to Christianity. Her response was to send back the gift and to tell me never to try to contact her again. She also said she would pray that up till the last dying breath of my life I would repent of turning to idolatry and return to the true Jewish faith.

    Interestingly she gets along famously with my parents (her grandparents) who are secular. They send her money so that's also kosher. As Karl Marx said: Der Gott des Judentum ist Geld. [note the alliterative pun in the German]!!!

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I assume your Unz persona is just a LARP but, if it is authentic, maybe ask your parents to openly say why your daughter is happy to speak with them and not you?

    Even if she is motivated by greed and religious hatred, as you seem to be implying, she will have other sincere reasons, that you might want to consider.

    Again, if not a LARP, your comments fill me with doubt that you have taken responsibility, rather than just finding fault in others.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    What is LARP?

    , @Fran Taubman
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Menacham as he himself has stated, lives in section 8 housing, is banned from attending both churches and synagogues, and has a restraining order from professors at the University of Colorado. If you read what he wrote those professors it is quite threatening and ridiculous. He also has a Harvard degree. Clearly there is a frayed wire not transmitting synapses at normal frequency.

    I find his Jew hatred and Palestinian reverence to be quite insincere and more about the ramblings of a person who has been rejected, or driven out of the fold for failing to function normally between the lines.
    I do not find his writing or opinions to be authentic. They are mote like personal rantings, from a therapy session. He could turn, and you could be on his hit list next. He has a lot of anger I am not interested in witnessing. His snuggling up to Taxi is as phony as can be. Many on UR are taken with his charm, I am not.

    I think Menachem is an unmitigated lunatic, and I resent his abuse of Judaism to solve some psychological disfunction. His anger comes from rejection. My guess is that he has left a lot of damage in his wake. UR is not a therapy session we were are here to comfort one another. It is a forum for discussion on Israel and Palestine, and other current events.

  • It's been decades since I last read George Orwell's 1984, but portions of that classic dystopian novel have become part of our common political culture. There's that famous scene in which an orator is giving a lengthy wartime speech at a political rally, praising the heroic ally of Eurasia and denouncing the arch-foe of Eastasia,...
  • The latest argument for a Chinese biolab leak is compelling.

    Wuhan is the location of the world’s number one lab for gain of function research for bat coronaviruses.

    Covid-19 looks like a bat coronavirus that has gone through gain of function research. It could have emerged in nature, but that would be astonishing.

    It would be even more astonishing for it to emerge in the one city in the world where such viruses would most likely be artificially created. The bat virus caves are a long way away.

    Were it Americans, I would imagine they’d pick any time except the international military games. Not just for the suspicion, but also because it would greatly increase the probability of international blowback.

    I cannot verify the above points, but I can say that if they are verified by credible experts, I think it is highly probable that the Wuhan lab caused this.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    @Triteleia Laxa


    The latest argument for a Chinese biolab leak is compelling.
     
    No it isn't. No China did it "argument" can be "compelling" until there is some kind of
    investigation into the apparent early cases of Covid-19 in the U.S. And the U.S. "government" apparently doesn't want to go there.

    For example, was the outbreak of a "mysterious respiratory illness" at the Greenspring Retirement Community in Springfeld, VA in June and July of 2019 caused by SARS-CoV-2, or was it caused by a different pathogen? Until the U.S. government comes clean about this, the U.S. "government" has no credibility and no standing to blame China.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @AnonFromTN

  • Transhumanism, at its most basic level, is about extending human capabilities through technology. In a sense, it has always been with us since at least the invention of fire. As David Landes notes, the invention of eyepieces in Renaissance Italy de facto doubled the productive life expectancy of artisans that relied upon fine motor skills...
  • @Xi-jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa


    It wasn’t only physical technology either, but also social innovation that drove industrialisation and allowed colonisation.
     
    But China was also ahead in these metrics as well:

    "the Chinese economy was not stagnant, and in many areas, especially agriculture, was ahead of Western Europe.[101] Chinese cities were also ahead in public health."

    According to Paul Bairoch, in the mid-18th century, "the average standard of living in Europe was a little bit lower than that of the rest of the world."

    During the Song Dynasty (960–1279), the country experienced a revolution in agriculture, water transport, finance, urbanization, science and technology, which made the Chinese economy the most advanced in the world from about 1100. Mastery of wet-field rice cultivation opened up the hitherto underdeveloped south of the country

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Thanks for adding evidence to my observations. I agree that China was more advanced agriculturally than Europe in 1100. Europe then rose and rose with phenomena like the Rennaisance.

    • Replies: @Xi-Jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The Renaissance was more of a byproduct of its rise as Europe got exposed to the arabs who reintroduced it to Greek/Roman works. If the Renaissance was what rose Europe - why then did the Arabs (who had superior science under various caliphates and pax mongolica) not rise - given they had not lost the knowledge of the Greeks and were actively studying it, even while it was lost in Europe? Even the Chinese had a rich history of political theory by the time that Europe was reintroduced to the Greeks.

    The point is - your observations are incorrect and the Renaissance played no role in Europes rise.

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @Michael Korn
    @Fran Taubman


    Thanks, except for the nutter part. Menachem is schizophrenic I can spot it a mile away. The way he talks in loops, often making no sense if you look closely at it. An X Jew and now a devout Christian sucking up to a Jihadist like Taxi, come on. Much of what he says he doubles back on. Clearly he does not have both oars in the water.
     
    I guess in honor of Naomi Osaka, I'm willing to have a Frank discussion of mental illness. There is a lot of mental illness in my family, especially on my father's side. He's a high achieving sociopath I believe. I once read that a huge percentage of American CEOs are sociopaths or even psychopaths who basically have zero conscience. But they are highly functional which allows them to succeed.

    (I'm kind of the polar opposite of those people. I have an extremely powerful conscience that acts to prevent me from succeeding in the normal ways esteemed in our materialistic and shallow society.)

    My father has been vanquished by two powerful women. One was Condoleezza Rice who served as Stanford Provost before working for Bush 43. She fired my father as dean of the Stanford medical school following an big scandal about grant money corruption. The politicians in Washington demanded accountability and my father was chosen to be the sacrifice. After this he slunk away to the east coast where Harvard hired him on the rebound for some kind of bogus administrative position.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374525951/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_X0A5NBQBNZ80C7K170YV
    This is a book by a famous Stanford neurosurgeon who brought a lawsuit against the medical school for sexual harassment and job discrimination. My father was a major defendant in the lawsuit.

    Compared to him I've only been a defendant in a number of divorce cases. I've never been found guilty in a court of law of anything and I have lived a relatively innocuous life thank God.

    There is significant Alzheimer's and bipolar and other such disorders on my father's side of the family. My mother's side is much healthier both mentally and physically thank God.

    I started experiencing deep depression when I went to college. I was very immature and not prepared for the meat grinder that was Harvard life. I should have stopped out and done something like gone into the military or even spend time in Israel on a kibbutz: anything to avoid the horror of the Harvard campus.

    I have been diagnosed with many different things; nobody seems to know how to get a fix on me. Some say I'm bipolar some say I have border personality disorder some say I have schizoaffective disorder. I have never been diagnosed formally as schizophrenic although sometimes I wonder. I repeat my comment earlier about the movie A BEAUTIFUL MIND. That character was a schizophrenic and he also was a Nobel Prize winner in Economics.

    (If a schizophrenic reports that he saw the sun rise in the east and set in the west is there reason to doubt him?)

    I know it frustrates you that you can't get a fix on me but I think it's a blessing to be able to see both sides of an argument and to understand multiple perspectives. We live in a world where it is rare that one side is purely right and the other is purely wrong. Unfortunately most people are too egotistical to concede that maybe they don't have all the answers and maybe they should listen more respectfully to their adversaries.

    My whole life I've been in a position of trying to make peace between contending parties. This started between my parents when their marriage began to disintegrate. It continued in college when I was caught between Jewish groups like Hillel and the student Zionist group and then groups like Catholic students and even some on-campus Islamic groups. I've never felt wholey comfortable in any single group. Many of them strike me as sophisticated forms of Street gangs. I think there's truth and goodness in all of them but none of them has cornered the market on virtue.

    Speaking of schizophrenia, I would suggest to Fran that someone who is so devoted to a foreign country but refuses to move there and put her money where her mouth is seems highly schizophrenic or at least divided in her own mind. Maybe you think you recognize schizophrenia in me because you grapple with it in yourself.

    I think you'd be a lot happier if you moved to Israel where you could be wholey devoted to the place you are living instead of being in the peanut gallery far away. But as I wrote many comments ago, Israel doesn't really want American Jews to move there. It wants them to stay here and serve as a fifth column treasonous Lobby and of course to send money. You seem like you would aspire to more than being a troll for the Zionists. I hope you find your happiness. Shalom

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I could help you. I am extremely talented at understanding the depths of other people. I would also gain knowledge useful to me from such an interaction, so you would be helping me out in turn. I understand that being shown what is where in you, could appear to be a scary proposition, but it is probably time that you gained some clarity on this, no?

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    If you wish to communicate with me you can contact me by email. I have posted it a couple of times on this thread. But I am done with commenting here.

    , @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I am extremely talented at understanding the depths of other people."

    Hah! You earlier said about Mevashir, "I assume your Unz persona is just a LARP but, if it is authentic ...". I don't know anything about him other than his comment on this page, but it is patently obvious that it is a genuine "persona"! You know, I could bet anything about this!

    Also, this persona is not that strange. It is the stuff prophets are made of!

    -

    (Triteleia Laxa, I generally liked, and agree, with your posts.)

    Replies: @mouse, @Triteleia Laxa

    , @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I could help you. I am extremely talented at understanding the depths of other people. I would also gain knowledge useful to me from such an interaction, so you would be helping me out in turn. I understand that being shown what is where in you, could appear to be a scary proposition, but it is probably time that you gained some clarity on this, no?
     
    What are you proposing exactly? I am not going to allow you to do psychoanalysis on me on a public thread. You must think I'm monumentally stupid.

    You never followed up by emailing me either so I really don't know what you want or what you are angling for.

    Let's start with something easy like an introduction. My name is Michael Korn. My blogging name is Mevashir which is a Hebrew word I made up that means Singing Evangelist. I'm 62 years old and my life has been divided roughly into thirds. 20 years in the USA 20 years in Israel 20 years back in the USA with a couple of years in South Africa.

    Is your handle a real name? How do you pronounce it and what does it mean? Are you male or female? Where do you live? Are you a professional psychotherapist? You write complimentary things about Jews but also critical things and I take it you are not Jewish.

    I feel resentful that you keep trying to analyze my personality instead of facing the issues that I am trying to raise. Why does everything have to become a matter of personality? My personality is odd but I don't think my perceptions are invalid. Certainly they're worth consideration. I lived a long time in Israel and I think I have a right to an opinion.

    I think the easiest way to understand the situation over there is that the American public is being asked to support morally politically and financially the right of wealthy Jewish retirees to move out of their gated communities in Miami Beach the Hamptons and Beverly Hills and to dispossess Palestinian peasants in the Holy Land.

    If the Jews want to try to do something like this why do they need American support? Why do they have a right to this support? If someone wants to open a Club Med resort in Haiti that will dispossess a couple of impoverished Haitian villages do they require an act of Congress?

    This is bluntly put the precise situation over there. All of those new Israeli settlements are basically exclusive retirement communities or homes for wealthy professionals who end up commuting anyway into Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. They build their dream homes on expropriated Palestinian land. Why does the rest of the world have to support this kind of project?

    Your turn.

    Replies: @BlackFlag

  • @Taxi
    @Fran Taubman

    Oh shut it down with your silly presumptions. The talmud is available in English on the net, and I have read 21 tractates of it, plus plenty of jewish essays on it to know what I'm talking about. If the talmud wasn't such a freaking bore of a read, I would have read the rest. But what's the point of wasting time on reading evil, paganistic, self-aggrandizing bullshit? Life is waaaaay too short for that, my dear.

    You don't know what I know so stfu already. And while you're at it, stop using my name in vain lol! "Jihadi Taxi" this and that lol! You haven't got a clue who I am. But I'll give you a hint: know of any "Jihadist" females who sun their buns on the beach every summer? Yeah right, you little mole-infested islamophobe. You'd better get used to the fact that 'normal' non-muslim Americans are against your wanton, historic crimes. You cannot hide from the sun.

    You're better of making your crap 'art' and selling it to jews with bad taste, than flailing your lies about in everyone's face here at the Unz. Sad, pathetic, racist clown.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman, @Triteleia Laxa

    I did some reading:

    This is how a Jew felt about the Talmud, before “falling in love with it” for the same reasons she was disappointed.

    She was profoundly disappointed. Unlike the lofty, magisterial prose of the Torah, she found the Talmud to have “all the imperfections, the trivialities, the multiplicity of voices, the wild associations – everything that characterises human conversation.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24367959

    It sounds fun and free-spirited, but hardly the type of text you can selectively quote from and still say anything useful about a religion.

    Amusingly, Unz.com seems to be set up as the Talmud to Ron Unz’s American Pravda series.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa

    With this reasoning, you could excuse anything negative said about it.

    When you combine a straightforward reading of the text with an analysis of the behavior and attitudes of the ultra-Orthodox, it becomes quite justifiable to deem them a sick supremacist cult.

    Same thing with the Mohammedans. Why do they tend to be so culturally hostile? Only fools and libtards attempt to divorce these attitudes from their scriptural bases. (Other reasons are ethnic and racial.)

    To be sure, plenty of Haredis and Muslims (moreso the latter) are nice enough to outsiders, but strictly speaking, this is in spite of, not because of, their religious instruction. (In the latter group, probably plain ignorance of it rather than a conscious denunciation of it. That is why, as a general rule, the more religious they are, the more hostile they are.)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @mouse

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: What If I’m Right? Steve Sailer June 02, 2021 Since the previous century I’ve been articulating in the public arena an array of interconnecting ideas about how the world works. For example, I tend to suspect that racial differences in achievement in 2021 have more to do with...
  • @PhysicistDave
    @El Dato

    El Dato wrote to me:


    People are just looking at the right perspective for its apparent “extravagance” (infinite-dimensional absolutely precise complex-valued probability density functions do not sound appealing; there is sure to be discreteness in there somewhere)
     
    You really do not know what you are talking about: the words and phrases you use are not the problem at all.

    I'm an expert on this: I actually do have a PhD in physics and I actually have done research on the foundations of quantum mechanics.

    If anyone (not you, I assume!) wants to actually learn about this, I recommend John Bell's still-classic Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics: Collected Papers on Quantum Philosophy 2nd Edition. Most of the book is readable by non-physicists. Bell is the giant in the field since 1950, discoverer of course of the eponymous Bell's theorem.

    Also worth reading is the sections on foundations in the second edition of Lectures on Quantum Mechanics by my former teacher (and Nobel laureate) Steve Weinberg.

    But, El Dato, don't bother: correcting your ignorance would only upset you.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Anon, @Luke Lea, @Sean, @Roger, @Alden, @Macumazahn

    I feel there is something about the word “quantum” that causes people to pretend understanding to themselves, so as to prove their intellectualism.

    It is like particles of light, hit the waves of matter, that the word is printed on, and bounce back, to stimulate their brain, at staccato speeds, set like clicks on a dial, making them regurgitate misunderstood buzzwords, as elaborate nonsense.

    Lol

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  • Transhumanism, at its most basic level, is about extending human capabilities through technology. In a sense, it has always been with us since at least the invention of fire. As David Landes notes, the invention of eyepieces in Renaissance Italy de facto doubled the productive life expectancy of artisans that relied upon fine motor skills...
  • @Xi-Jinping
    @Mark G.


    So you are saying they were more intelligent and advanced than Europe but at the same time they were so unintelligent they were unable to adapt and meet the threat of a European takeover. I would say being intelligent includes an ability to adapt and successfully react to novel situations and these Asian and Arab civilizations were sorely lacking in this area
     
    .

    This argument is reddit-tier. I expected higher level discourse from you. I will answer this once.

    I am saying that Europe had spent more time innovating and developing its weapons systems at the expense of basically everything else which means that even though China/Asia was ahead of Europe in almost every other measure, they lost key battles because it is difficult to rapidly adapt military technology (or any kind of technology) while under attack from an enemy. This should be obvious. Lets see you "adapt" when im punching you in the face constantly, unless you have prepared for it beforehand.

    It was the ideas of the Enlightenment that caused Europe and countries populated by Europeans like the United States to leap in front of the rest of the world. The Enlightenment took place in the 18th century so that is when that prosperity started. Slavery and colonialism existed all through history but the great increases in wealth and life expectancy didn’t start until then. Other parts of the world have become prosperous to the extent they adopted these ideas.

     

    Enlightenment ideas are irrelevant in prosperity. This is typical anglo drivel. China is bound to surpass the US this decade economically, and it has adopted nothing but its own Confucian ideas. Perhaps the secret to rapid prosperity lies in Confucianism?

    Prosperity in Europe in the 19th Century had its foundations in plundering the wealth either of undeveloped tribes in south america (that also happened to be rich in Gold/silver) that was then sold to asia for massive profits, the slave trade that gave cheap and almost unlimited labor for agriculture in the New World that freed Old World Labor to work elsewhere (mainly industry or as artisans). Enlightenment ideas had nothing to do with it.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Daniel Chieh

    Enlightenment ideas are irrelevant in prosperity. This is typical anglo drivel. China is bound to surpass the US this decade economically, and it has adopted nothing but its own Confucian ideas. Perhaps the secret to rapid prosperity lies in Confucianism?

    This is your understanding of Chinese intellectual development in the 20th and 21st Century?

    You think Marxism, nationalism and economic liberalism have played little part?

    Your namesake disagrees with you completely.

    • Replies: @Xi-Jinping
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Enghlitentment ideas are indeed irrelevant to prosperity.

    Marx came after Hegel, and I'd make an argument that Marx was a "counter-enlightenment" thinker.

    Also, keep in mind Xi knows Marx very well but is promoting Confucian thought in China, which is leading to rapid economic gains. So my statement is correct - perhaps it is not enlightenment thought leads to prosperity but Confucian thought?

    In fact ever since Mao died, Confucianism saw a re-emergence, which also corresponded with Chinese economic gains.

    Replies: @AaronB

  • It's been decades since I last read George Orwell's 1984, but portions of that classic dystopian novel have become part of our common political culture. There's that famous scene in which an orator is giving a lengthy wartime speech at a political rally, praising the heroic ally of Eurasia and denouncing the arch-foe of Eastasia,...
  • @Harold Smith
    @Triteleia Laxa


    The latest argument for a Chinese biolab leak is compelling.
     
    No it isn't. No China did it "argument" can be "compelling" until there is some kind of
    investigation into the apparent early cases of Covid-19 in the U.S. And the U.S. "government" apparently doesn't want to go there.

    For example, was the outbreak of a "mysterious respiratory illness" at the Greenspring Retirement Community in Springfeld, VA in June and July of 2019 caused by SARS-CoV-2, or was it caused by a different pathogen? Until the U.S. government comes clean about this, the U.S. "government" has no credibility and no standing to blame China.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @AnonFromTN

    A bat coronavirus, that’s undergone gain of function work, originating in the city which hosts the lab that is the most prolific conductor of gain of function research on bat coronaviruses, seems pretty compelling to me.

    • Replies: @Iris
    @Triteleia Laxa

    A criminal that commits a crime and then deliberately plants the murder weapon into his Nr1 foe's garden to get him accused seems equally compelling to me.

    It is called a "false flag" in popular vernacular. I could make a long list of those, which interestingly, were committed exclusively by the US, Israel, or NATO, for over seven decades since 1945.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @Harold Smith
    @Triteleia Laxa


    A bat coronavirus, that’s undergone gain of function work, originating in the city which hosts the lab that is the most prolific conductor of gain of function research on bat coronaviruses, seems pretty compelling to me.
     
    First, since you don't know what research was going on in U.S. biowarfare labs, your statement that the Wuhan lab "is the most prolific conductor of gain of function research on bat coronaviruses" is pure speculation. Second, if it can be shown that people were being infected/sickened with SARS-CoV-2 in the U.S. before anyone in China was infected/sickened with it, then the activities of the lab in Wuhan become irrelevant. And the refusal of the U.S. "government" to investigate some of these apparently early cases of Covid-19 disease in the U.S. is suspicious if not damning, under the circumstances. So it seems that your opinion is is unfounded.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @stonewall jackson

  • @Iris
    @Triteleia Laxa

    A criminal that commits a crime and then deliberately plants the murder weapon into his Nr1 foe's garden to get him accused seems equally compelling to me.

    It is called a "false flag" in popular vernacular. I could make a long list of those, which interestingly, were committed exclusively by the US, Israel, or NATO, for over seven decades since 1945.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    China is exceptionally easy to visit for Americans, whom I imagine are perceptive enough to therefore choose any time other than when there was a military games in town, which would both bring suspicion and make the virus much more likely to spread internationally.

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I am extremely talented at understanding the depths of other people."

    Hah! You earlier said about Mevashir, "I assume your Unz persona is just a LARP but, if it is authentic ...". I don't know anything about him other than his comment on this page, but it is patently obvious that it is a genuine "persona"! You know, I could bet anything about this!

    Also, this persona is not that strange. It is the stuff prophets are made of!

    -

    (Triteleia Laxa, I generally liked, and agree, with your posts.)

    Replies: @mouse, @Triteleia Laxa

    My impressions are that he can’t make sense of his life; he feels a victim of everything, and he can’t seem to see the sincerity in other people, even his own daughter.

    This is a picture of someone who is stuck in an idea of themselves, without even knowing what that idea is.

    A Cassandra, not a prophet, struggles against himself, rather than paddling in the direction in which he naturally flows.

    • Replies: @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Very few people can make sense of their lives. The ones who can are what religious people would called 'blessed'.

    By the way, Mevashir's story about his daughter reminded me a very nice story from Shalom Aleichem, the Yiddish writer. I have forgotten the title, but I read it in the collection _Tevye, the Dairyman_. There a Rabbi and a Christian priest are on friendly terms, though their banter on religion goes on. The Rabbi's beloved daughter (who adores the Rabbi) runs away with the priest's son, and marries in secret. The Rabbi completely disowns her. The author describes the separation in few sentences, but I remember I found it heart-rending when I read it. I remember thinking, "what needless suffering!", and yet as I mature, I have hardened somewhat too! If this is what it takes to preserve the culture (being, as the Hebrews were, in a sea of Christians), then either the men should be hard, or they can just shut shop.

    "A Cassandra, not a prophet, struggles against himself, rather than paddling in the direction in which he naturally flows." I wonder. May I recommend an opera by Mendelssohn, Elijah/Elias? Here is Elijah asking God to kill him ("It is enough!"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr8BA6Z4gsA.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Michael Korn

    , @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    My impressions are that he can’t make sense of his life; he feels a victim of everything, and he can’t seem to see the sincerity in other people, even his own daughter.
     
    What makes you say he can't see sincerity in others?

    As for feeling a victim, there may be some truth to that. He has struggled with bouts of depression throughout his adult life, many of which were triggered by the disillusionment he experienced when the behavior of members of the various religious groups he belonged to fell short of his ideals. If one's feelings are too dependent on the whims of others, one will always be a leaf blowing in the wind.

    I'm surprised to hear he's lonely. My impression was of an affable chap and his autobiography is full of people he seemed close to. If those relationships were superficial, then perhaps there was something about him that rubbed people the wrong way. A reluctance to allow people to live by their own lights - if that's what it was - is bound to eventually drive them away.

    Something evidently happened at Harvard that changed him. He cites a lack of life direction, but I wonder if there wasn't more to it. Either way, the academic promise he showed was squandered chasing rainbows, seeking after an illusory religious formula that would make the world right - or at least him right with the world. His life is a cautionary tale, for those young enough to learn from it.

    [Sorry to put you under the microscope like this, Mike, but when you make your life an open book - literally, in your case - you can't be surprised if some people read it.]

    Replies: @Michael Korn, @Triteleia Laxa

  • It's been decades since I last read George Orwell's 1984, but portions of that classic dystopian novel have become part of our common political culture. There's that famous scene in which an orator is giving a lengthy wartime speech at a political rally, praising the heroic ally of Eurasia and denouncing the arch-foe of Eastasia,...
  • @Harold Smith
    @Triteleia Laxa


    A bat coronavirus, that’s undergone gain of function work, originating in the city which hosts the lab that is the most prolific conductor of gain of function research on bat coronaviruses, seems pretty compelling to me.
     
    First, since you don't know what research was going on in U.S. biowarfare labs, your statement that the Wuhan lab "is the most prolific conductor of gain of function research on bat coronaviruses" is pure speculation. Second, if it can be shown that people were being infected/sickened with SARS-CoV-2 in the U.S. before anyone in China was infected/sickened with it, then the activities of the lab in Wuhan become irrelevant. And the refusal of the U.S. "government" to investigate some of these apparently early cases of Covid-19 disease in the U.S. is suspicious if not damning, under the circumstances. So it seems that your opinion is is unfounded.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @stonewall jackson

    As I wrote previously, I am not stating that those particular facts are true, I have nowhere near the expertise to do so, instead I am arguing that, if they are true, the case for a Chinese biolab leak is compelling.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    @Triteleia Laxa


    "As I wrote previously, I am not stating that those particular facts are true..."
     
    In your statement #259 you said: "Wuhan IS the location of the world’s number one lab for gain of function research for bat coronaviruses."

    Here you assert an opinion as if it were a generally accepted fact.


    ...I have nowhere near the expertise to do so...
     
    Yet in your comment #259 you said for example:

    "Covid-19 (sic) looks like a bat coronavirus that has gone through gain of function research. It could have emerged in nature, but that would be astonishing."

    Being that you're not an expert in the subject matter (nor are you apparently even a well-informed layperson), how would you have any idea about that? Why bother to publicly opine about a subject with which you are very unfamiliar?


    ...instead I am arguing that, if they are true, the case for a Chinese biolab leak is compelling.
     
    But as I've pointed out (and you apparently still fail to acknowledge), if it can be established that the virus was infecting people in the U.S. BEFORE anyone was infected in China, then the Wuhan lab becomes irrelevant. I don't think you need to be an expert or even a well-informed layperson to appreciate the importance of the timeline here, right?
  • @Ron Unz
    @AnonFromTN


    I don’t know either Wade or Baker personally. So, I have no reason to either believe or question their intentions. Thing is, all the info in both articles was on the Internet long before. Even if the articles were honest attempts to get to the bottom of this, they clearly weren’t the first (or even the second, third, etc.).
     
    Well, I hope I'm not violating a confidence, but I think I'll describe the very ironic backstory of the important Nicholas Wade article.

    Wade had been working on an entirely different book, but naturally became interested in the Covid controversy last year, and began reading much of the material that was available on the Internet. He was disturbed that almost all of it was being ignored or misrepresented in the MSM, and eventually decided to write up an article of his own, laying out his own analysis.

    Despite his very considerable credibility in science journalism, when he tried shopping around his article to a wide range of publications all across the ideological spectrum, every single one of them flatly rejected it.

    So finally he decided that since no one was willing to publish his article but he'd already spent quite a lot of time researching and writing it, he might as well just put it up on the Medium website. And that's how it got "published."

    Given the massive international publicity, the total transformation of the national political debate, and the sudden decision of Facebook to lift the ban on discussing the lab-leak theory for its three billion(!) users, I think his universally-rejected article has probably had more real-world impact more quickly than anything else published anywhere in many, many years.

    So you can decide for yourself how his article fits into your framework of rejecting whatever the MSM says is true...

    Replies: @Anon, @Triteleia Laxa, @Chrisnonymous

    The Covid bioleak theory had the Mark of Trump. It is noticeable that any other theory, similarly marked, faced immense hurdles in being taken seriously by the press over the last few years.

    Perhaps no mainstream publication wanted that Mark on them, but Wade burst the dam by self-publishing. The media then rushed in.

    That a new untraceable virus leaked out of a lab is an ordinary supposition. That it wasn’t a commonly published one, especially given the circumstances, is the fact which begs interesting explanation.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: What If I’m Right? Steve Sailer June 02, 2021 Since the previous century I’ve been articulating in the public arena an array of interconnecting ideas about how the world works. For example, I tend to suspect that racial differences in achievement in 2021 have more to do with...
  • @Jonathan Mason

    Note that I don’t put very much effort into telling you how I think the world should work, just how it does work. At least, the latter’s testable.
     
    But that is the whole problem!

    Yes, it is good to read some reporting and discussion based on reality as a healthy antidote to political correctness, wokeness and so on, but you are actually reporting on things that are already known, but not discussed much in public for reasons of keeping the peace.

    Do you really think that the nation's top politicians, law enforcement officials, chiefs of police, prison wardens, judges, lawyers, probation officers, psychiatrists, psychologists, are not aware of the black crime problem?

    What is more interesting is how to handle it? What do they do in Jamaica which has the highest murder rate in the world, all black police, all black schools?

    https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/JLP,_PNP_members_in_Parliament_clash_over_crime?profile=1228

    KINGSTON, Jamaica — Prime Minister Andrew Holness has branded as hypocritical criticism from the Opposition People's National Party that his administration has lost its handle on crime and that the island's airspace and borders are a free for all.

    ...

    There is a feeling that the government needs to speak to the nation as to how it will tackle those issues especially at this time when the States of Emergency option is not on the table, the Courts having ruled that it is not constitutional...

    That opinion however earned him a stinging rebuke from the prime minister who went to great lengths to detail steps taken by his administration to reduce crime.

    “I am asking the leader of the Opposition to help us to quarantine some of the criminals who are killing the people in Kingston Western which includes St Andrew South. I am asking the leader of the Opposition to give support measures that give emergency powers to the government to control the crime that is happening,” Holness retorted.
    ...
    During the resulting interchange which saw chaos reigning in the House as members on both sides of the House exchanged verbal insults...

    We have a deputy President in the US who has Jamaican family connections, but what is she doing to provide leadership to address issues of black crime and racial conflict in the hemisphere?

    Do countries like Guyana and Trinidad that are 50/50 dot Indian versus blacks have the same problems?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Trinidad_and_Tobago

    A not common explanation is that the outbreak in murders is due to drugs and gang related issues, especially in the depressed communities of East Port of Spain.

    https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/south-america/guyana/staying-crime-free-in-guyana

    The country has a murder rate that is three times higher than that of the United States...

    ...if you plan on playing golf at the public course in Lusignan, it is advised that you do so in the safety of groups and only during daylight hours.

    So how is the US doing relative to other countries with black populations, including Canada, most of the Caribbean, Haiti, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Colombia, Brazil, Ecuador, Peru, etc.

    Should there be a Western hemisphere summit on black crime and migration to put together a new set of universal rules in which allies would support each other in testing and implementing strategies to combat domestic and international violent crime. Or a meeting of conservative party leaders to work on common strategies?

    Where is the US in providing hemispherical leadership?

    Stating the problem is easy, but providing solutions or even approaches to solutions is so much harder. Should areas of high crime be physically quarantined to keep the most murderous citizens at home as Prime Minister Holness of Jamaica wants?

    I have no opinion as to whether Holness is right or wrong, but it is worth noting that Holness was reelected in 2020 at a time when Jamaica's tourism industry was devasted by COVID-19 with a massively increased majority that decimated the opposition party (but the voter turnout was only 37%, probably because of COVID-19.

    His JLP is a conservative party.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @PetrOldSack

    I wonder if there is a country where the black population does not lead the ethnic cohorts by proportion engaged in crime?

    It would be a useful example to learn from.

    Not being able to speak about things means that answers to even simple questions like that are very hard to work out, and considered action is hard to take.

  • From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been...
  • @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa

    With this reasoning, you could excuse anything negative said about it.

    When you combine a straightforward reading of the text with an analysis of the behavior and attitudes of the ultra-Orthodox, it becomes quite justifiable to deem them a sick supremacist cult.

    Same thing with the Mohammedans. Why do they tend to be so culturally hostile? Only fools and libtards attempt to divorce these attitudes from their scriptural bases. (Other reasons are ethnic and racial.)

    To be sure, plenty of Haredis and Muslims (moreso the latter) are nice enough to outsiders, but strictly speaking, this is in spite of, not because of, their religious instruction. (In the latter group, probably plain ignorance of it rather than a conscious denunciation of it. That is why, as a general rule, the more religious they are, the more hostile they are.)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @mouse

    Isn’t the point of the Talmud to contradict itself? In which case, there can be no straightforward reading.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Isn’t the point of the Talmud to contradict itself? In which case, there can be no straightforward reading.
     
    It doesn't matter. The whole purpose of interpreting it is to reach some usable conclusion - even if those people are uncomfortable admitting this to themselves. It's those conclusions that both inform and reinforce Haredi attitudes (which I summarize as a "sick supremacist cult"). Other Jews, of whom it may be said (with a bit of licence) have a preference for being human over being Jewish, may draw milder conclusions, even viewing it as simply an interesting cultural exercise which offers no firm guidance as to how to actually live their lives.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Very few people can make sense of their lives. The ones who can are what religious people would called 'blessed'.

    By the way, Mevashir's story about his daughter reminded me a very nice story from Shalom Aleichem, the Yiddish writer. I have forgotten the title, but I read it in the collection _Tevye, the Dairyman_. There a Rabbi and a Christian priest are on friendly terms, though their banter on religion goes on. The Rabbi's beloved daughter (who adores the Rabbi) runs away with the priest's son, and marries in secret. The Rabbi completely disowns her. The author describes the separation in few sentences, but I remember I found it heart-rending when I read it. I remember thinking, "what needless suffering!", and yet as I mature, I have hardened somewhat too! If this is what it takes to preserve the culture (being, as the Hebrews were, in a sea of Christians), then either the men should be hard, or they can just shut shop.

    "A Cassandra, not a prophet, struggles against himself, rather than paddling in the direction in which he naturally flows." I wonder. May I recommend an opera by Mendelssohn, Elijah/Elias? Here is Elijah asking God to kill him ("It is enough!"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr8BA6Z4gsA.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Michael Korn

    Very few people can make sense of their lives. The ones who can are what religious people would called ‘blessed’

    Thanks. Not heard that word used in that context before. It almost fits, but everyone is “blessed”, they just can’t see it yet.

    Imagine if you could see how people are “blessed”, even when they can’t see it themselves. It would be very jarring when you also see their surface level narrative.

    You’d often confuse how simple it would be for them to reach self-realisation, with it being easy. What do you think?

    If this is what it takes to preserve the culture (being, as the Hebrews were, in a sea of Christians), then either the men should be hard, or they can just shut shop

    I feel Mevashir would enjoy understanding his daughter, and his relationship to her, in a deeper way than this.

    “A Cassandra, not a prophet, struggles against himself, rather than paddling in the direction in which he naturally flows.” I wonder. May I recommend an opera by Mendelssohn, Elijah/Elias? Here is Elijah asking God to kill him (“It is enough!”

    Speaking with you about Mevashir, feels like speaking with Mevashir’s delusions.

    • Replies: @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I feel Mevashir would enjoy understanding his daughter, and his relationship to her, in a deeper way than this."

    Yes, certainly.

    "It almost fits, but everyone is “blessed”, they just can’t see it yet. ... You’d often confuse how simple it would be for them to reach self-realisation, with it being easy. What do you think?"

    I don't think it is so easy. It _ought to be_ easy, but it isn't! For one, to do what you think is right/what you think you ought to do requires a great degree of courage. Most people fail in this, and then become miserable. 'Blessed' in the long run would be he/she who has an idea of what he/she wants to do, and the courage to do so.

    So, I think you can cut Mevashir some slack! Even if his struggles are due to "chemical imbalances", he is doing what he think is right, "costs be damned". That earns him some respect from me.

    Prophet vs Cassandra: What I wanted to say was that prophets are not straight-forward/simple people. I would imagine that the prophet-type is a compulsive rebel, conscientious, intelligent, and somewhat mad!
    For a rich society, we need all sorts of people. Particularly, we need people like Fran to do the actual work, and people like Mevashir to keep the former on their toes!

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • @Colin Wright
    @Triteleia Laxa

    'Why would the Jews of Israel agree to your plan to “resettle them”, or, just as likely, murder them all?'

    As it is -- even with all the support we give them -- forty percent of the Jews in Israel say that they would leave if only they could.

    I'm confident that if we simultaneously pulled the plug on Israel and made it clear that they were welcome to emigrate to the United States, Canada, Australia, or any European country that would have them that the Jewish population of Palestine would fall to a tiny fraction of what it is now within a decade.

    There are difficult and baffling problems confronting humanity. Israel is not one of them. All that one takes is the desire to permit a solution. Let the Jews leave.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @sb

    I’m confident that if we simultaneously pulled the plug on Israel and made it clear that they were welcome to emigrate to the United States, Canada, Australia, or any European country that would have them that the Jewish population of Palestine would fall to a tiny fraction of what it is now within a decade.

    Where does your confidence for this extraordinary claim come from?

    Also, I feel you’re overemphasising the difference US financial support makes to Israel. I don’t believe the support is only there because of the Israel lobby, but also because it is useful to the MIC. The support is thereby limited in benefit to Israel, because it is designed to benefit another party too.

  • @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Isn’t the point of the Talmud to contradict itself? In which case, there can be no straightforward reading.
     
    It doesn't matter. The whole purpose of interpreting it is to reach some usable conclusion - even if those people are uncomfortable admitting this to themselves. It's those conclusions that both inform and reinforce Haredi attitudes (which I summarize as a "sick supremacist cult"). Other Jews, of whom it may be said (with a bit of licence) have a preference for being human over being Jewish, may draw milder conclusions, even viewing it as simply an interesting cultural exercise which offers no firm guidance as to how to actually live their lives.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Of course it matters that a document is purposefully contradictory when you are taking out selective quotations.

    I am also under the impression that the point of studying the Talmud is, partly, to contradict it. This makes those selective quotations even more stupid.

    Those quotes only say something about the individuals who wrote them and, since they summarise intercommunal attitudes that have been frequently ordinary throughout human history, I see no reason to get all worked up.

    They aren’t considered the word of God or some perfect person. They are supposed to be critically evaluated and taken in context. I suspect the only people who don’t take them that way are people on Unz.com.

    I also wouldn’t typify the Haredi as a “sick supremacist cult”. None of those words fit, though there may be cults within the Haredi.

    They seem healthy to me and, other than communally, perhaps corruptly, trying to get the best deal out of municipal governments, are hardly out conquering the world and subjugating peoples.

    I can’t say I know a lot about them, but can anyone? I also think that I would know a lot more about them if they were making serious efforts in a supremacist direction.

    My only personal knowledge comes from a long chat I had with a Rabbi (I think) from Chabad. He was lovely, if a bit too earnest, and about as far from being “supremacist ” as I can imagine. There is no way for me to have been substantially useful to him either, so there would have been little point in him putting on a performance.

    There are just over a million Jews in the whole of Europe, including Russia, I have met far too many Jewish nobodies to consider them, as a group, anything but an interesting sociological phenomena.

    The irreligious ones tend to have exactly the same views of those my peer group, except they are sometimes kinder about Israel. The religious ones seem keep to themselves.

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa


    My only personal knowledge comes from a long chat I had with a Rabbi (I think) from Chabad. He was lovely, if a bit too earnest, and about as far from being “supremacist ” as I can imagine. There is no way for me to have been substantially useful to him either, so there would have been little point in him putting on a performance.
     
    Chabad is the MOST supremacist of all Jewish sects: https://www.4shared.com/web/preview/pdf/MSzKUkumba
    , @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "supremacist cult":

    It is probably 'supremacist' in that it thinks itself to be the best group in the world. But all groups think so.

    As you say, it becomes of interest to others only when they set out to "bring their light" to others by force. They are obviously not doing that, or wish to do that (unlike the Muslims, who keep dreaming of that).

    Replies: @silviosilver

  • @silviosilver
    @Michael Korn


    I asked my chiropractor
     
    Check in with your astrologer while you're at it - always a good idea to get as much expert opinion as you can.

    I know you've been open with us, but are you sure you're not holding back some alien abduction story? It may even be the root of your ailment.

    Replies: @Anne Lid, @Triteleia Laxa, @Michael Korn, @OilcanFloyd

    Check in with your astrologer while you’re at it – always a good idea to get as much expert opinion as you can.

    I enjoy astrology!

    This podcast episode is surprisingly compelling.

    https://www.buzzsprout.com/713691/5264467-debra-silverman-the-missing-element.mp3?blob_id=21604375

  • @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I feel Mevashir would enjoy understanding his daughter, and his relationship to her, in a deeper way than this."

    Yes, certainly.

    "It almost fits, but everyone is “blessed”, they just can’t see it yet. ... You’d often confuse how simple it would be for them to reach self-realisation, with it being easy. What do you think?"

    I don't think it is so easy. It _ought to be_ easy, but it isn't! For one, to do what you think is right/what you think you ought to do requires a great degree of courage. Most people fail in this, and then become miserable. 'Blessed' in the long run would be he/she who has an idea of what he/she wants to do, and the courage to do so.

    So, I think you can cut Mevashir some slack! Even if his struggles are due to "chemical imbalances", he is doing what he think is right, "costs be damned". That earns him some respect from me.

    Prophet vs Cassandra: What I wanted to say was that prophets are not straight-forward/simple people. I would imagine that the prophet-type is a compulsive rebel, conscientious, intelligent, and somewhat mad!
    For a rich society, we need all sorts of people. Particularly, we need people like Fran to do the actual work, and people like Mevashir to keep the former on their toes!

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    I find that courage is shown in doing what your heart says and not what you abstractly reason as “right”.

    This is because it takes uncommon courage to to see and acknowledge what your heart truly says.

    I don’t judge Mevashir for his overriding need for validation. I just won’t enable his false reality, even as I understand that its construction was necessary.

    I also feel that he is getting close to the time when he can give it up.

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa


    This is because it takes uncommon courage to to see and acknowledge what your heart truly says.
     
    The Jewish Shma prayer says:

    DO NOT GO AFTER YOUR HEART AND EYES THAT YOU WHORE AFTER

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-shema/

    Numbers 15:37-41

    וַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהוָ֖ה אֶל־מֹשֶׁ֥ה לֵּאמֹֽר׃ דַּבֵּ֞ר אֶל־בְּנֵ֤י יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ וְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֲלֵהֶ֔ם וְעָשׂ֨וּ לָהֶ֥ם צִיצִ֛ת עַל־כַּנְפֵ֥י בִגְדֵיהֶ֖ם לְדֹרֹתָ֑ם וְנָֽתְנ֛וּ עַל־צִיצִ֥ת הַכָּנָ֖ף פְּתִ֥יל תְּכֵֽלֶת׃ וְהָיָ֣ה לָכֶם֮ לְצִיצִת֒ וּרְאִיתֶ֣ם אֹת֗וֹ וּזְכַרְתֶּם֙ אֶת־כָּל־מִצְוות יְהוָ֔ה וַעֲשִׂיתֶ֖ם אֹתָ֑ם וְלֹֽא־תָתֻ֜רוּ אַחֲרֵ֤י לְבַבְכֶם֙ וְאַחֲרֵ֣י עֵֽינֵיכֶ֔ם אֲשֶׁר־אַתֶּ֥ם זֹנִ֖ים אַחֲרֵיהֶֽם׃ לְמַ֣עַן תִּזְכְּר֔וּ וַעֲשִׂיתֶ֖ם אֶת־כָּל־מִצְותָ֑י וִהְיִיתֶ֥ם קְדֹשִׁ֖ים לֵֽאלֹהֵיכֶֽם׃ אֲנִ֞י יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֗ם אֲשֶׁ֨ר הוֹצֵ֤אתִי אֶתְכֶם֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרַ֔יִם לִהְי֥וֹת לָכֶ֖ם לֵאלֹהִ֑ים אֲנִ֖י יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵיכֶֽם׃

    The LORD said to Moses as follows: Speak to the Israelite people and instruct them to make for themselves fringes on the corners of their garments throughout the ages; let them attach a cord of blue to the fringe at each corner. That shall be your fringe; look at it and recall all the commandments of the LORD and observe them, so that you do not follow your heart and eyes in your lustful urge. Thus you shall be reminded to observe all My commandments and to be holy to your God. I the LORD am your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt to be your God: I, the LORD your God.
     
    Could we agree that discerning between proper and improper desires of the heart is the key human struggle [Mein Kampf] in this world? Consider King David. His heart told him that he could do the impossible and Vanquish the Philistine giant Goliath. And he became a great National hero. But his heart also told him to seduce Bathsheba and he brought shame and disgrace upon his family and embarrassment to the nation:
    https://youtu.be/cxeAXoLIQ1Y

    So what advice can you offer us about how to properly discern between the good and the evil impulses in our hearts?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @mouse
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "I find that courage is shown in doing what your heart says and not what you abstractly reason as “right”. This is because it takes uncommon courage to see and acknowledge what your heart truly says."

    We agree.

    The 'abstractly reasoned right', shaped by externally imposed duties, etc is probably stupid:

    "A virtue must be _our_ invention; it must spring out of _our_ personal need and defence. In every other case it is a source of danger. ... [The demands of] the most profound laws of self-preservation and of growth: to wit, that every man find his _own_ virtue, his _own_ categorical imperative. [contra Kant] A nation goes to pieces when it confounds _its_ duty with the general concept of duty. Nothing works a more complete and penetrating disaster than every "impersonal" duty, every sacrifice before the Moloch of abstraction. ... What destroys a man more quickly than to work, think and feel without inner necessity, without any deep personal desire, without pleasure--as a mere automaton of duty? That is the recipe for _decadence_, and no less for idiocy." (--Nietzsche, _The Antichrist_, 11)

    Of course, 'pleasure' has to be rightly defined! Mevashir says, "Could we agree that discerning between proper and improper desires of the heart is the key human struggle in this world?" I would rather say that discerning between proper and improper pleasure/real and chimeral pleasure is the key to the human struggle.

  • @silviosilver
    @Triteleia Laxa


    My impressions are that he can’t make sense of his life; he feels a victim of everything, and he can’t seem to see the sincerity in other people, even his own daughter.
     
    What makes you say he can't see sincerity in others?

    As for feeling a victim, there may be some truth to that. He has struggled with bouts of depression throughout his adult life, many of which were triggered by the disillusionment he experienced when the behavior of members of the various religious groups he belonged to fell short of his ideals. If one's feelings are too dependent on the whims of others, one will always be a leaf blowing in the wind.

    I'm surprised to hear he's lonely. My impression was of an affable chap and his autobiography is full of people he seemed close to. If those relationships were superficial, then perhaps there was something about him that rubbed people the wrong way. A reluctance to allow people to live by their own lights - if that's what it was - is bound to eventually drive them away.

    Something evidently happened at Harvard that changed him. He cites a lack of life direction, but I wonder if there wasn't more to it. Either way, the academic promise he showed was squandered chasing rainbows, seeking after an illusory religious formula that would make the world right - or at least him right with the world. His life is a cautionary tale, for those young enough to learn from it.

    [Sorry to put you under the microscope like this, Mike, but when you make your life an open book - literally, in your case - you can't be surprised if some people read it.]

    Replies: @Michael Korn, @Triteleia Laxa

    What makes you say he can’t see sincerity in others?

    Intuition confirmed by experience.

    I also see that he can’t differentiate easily between the feelings which arise within him and those of others. He would benefit from a guide to help him calibrate.

  • @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa


    This is because it takes uncommon courage to to see and acknowledge what your heart truly says.
     
    The Jewish Shma prayer says:

    DO NOT GO AFTER YOUR HEART AND EYES THAT YOU WHORE AFTER

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-shema/

    Numbers 15:37-41

    וַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהוָ֖ה אֶל־מֹשֶׁ֥ה לֵּאמֹֽר׃ דַּבֵּ֞ר אֶל־בְּנֵ֤י יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ וְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֲלֵהֶ֔ם וְעָשׂ֨וּ לָהֶ֥ם צִיצִ֛ת עַל־כַּנְפֵ֥י בִגְדֵיהֶ֖ם לְדֹרֹתָ֑ם וְנָֽתְנ֛וּ עַל־צִיצִ֥ת הַכָּנָ֖ף פְּתִ֥יל תְּכֵֽלֶת׃ וְהָיָ֣ה לָכֶם֮ לְצִיצִת֒ וּרְאִיתֶ֣ם אֹת֗וֹ וּזְכַרְתֶּם֙ אֶת־כָּל־מִצְוות יְהוָ֔ה וַעֲשִׂיתֶ֖ם אֹתָ֑ם וְלֹֽא־תָתֻ֜רוּ אַחֲרֵ֤י לְבַבְכֶם֙ וְאַחֲרֵ֣י עֵֽינֵיכֶ֔ם אֲשֶׁר־אַתֶּ֥ם זֹנִ֖ים אַחֲרֵיהֶֽם׃ לְמַ֣עַן תִּזְכְּר֔וּ וַעֲשִׂיתֶ֖ם אֶת־כָּל־מִצְותָ֑י וִהְיִיתֶ֥ם קְדֹשִׁ֖ים לֵֽאלֹהֵיכֶֽם׃ אֲנִ֞י יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֗ם אֲשֶׁ֨ר הוֹצֵ֤אתִי אֶתְכֶם֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרַ֔יִם לִהְי֥וֹת לָכֶ֖ם לֵאלֹהִ֑ים אֲנִ֖י יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵיכֶֽם׃

    The LORD said to Moses as follows: Speak to the Israelite people and instruct them to make for themselves fringes on the corners of their garments throughout the ages; let them attach a cord of blue to the fringe at each corner. That shall be your fringe; look at it and recall all the commandments of the LORD and observe them, so that you do not follow your heart and eyes in your lustful urge. Thus you shall be reminded to observe all My commandments and to be holy to your God. I the LORD am your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt to be your God: I, the LORD your God.
     
    Could we agree that discerning between proper and improper desires of the heart is the key human struggle [Mein Kampf] in this world? Consider King David. His heart told him that he could do the impossible and Vanquish the Philistine giant Goliath. And he became a great National hero. But his heart also told him to seduce Bathsheba and he brought shame and disgrace upon his family and embarrassment to the nation:
    https://youtu.be/cxeAXoLIQ1Y

    So what advice can you offer us about how to properly discern between the good and the evil impulses in our hearts?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Could we agree that discerning between proper and improper desires of the heart is the key human struggle in this world

    No.

    Your fearful need to judge yourself impedes your ability to see clearly.

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I am mainly using a cell phone and it is very difficult to load this thread. I apologize for not being able to keep on top of the discussion. I actually do not own a computer and never have in 25 years of using the internet.

    I want to believe you are interested in helping me in some way. But I really find your comments inscrutable.


    Your fearful need to judge yourself impedes your ability to see clearly.
     
    Self-judgment (rather than judging others) is considered crucial in all three Abrahamic religions. What is wrong with it?

    I heard a very interesting talk by the Buddhist teacher Thich Naht Hanh. He says that we need to hold our anger tenderly. He says the Western idea of fighting against evil thoughts or traits like on a battlefield is incorrect and futile.

    He says for example Buddhists Aspire not to be angry but to have peace. But he says if a person is angry he needs to hold it tenderly meaning he needs to probe what is causing the anger. You should listen to the talk I can't explain it nearly as well as he does. But he uses a great analogy.

    He talks about a mother who hears her baby crying. She could immediately try to figure out what the babies problem is in remedy it. But he says no the mother first goes to baby and picks it up and comforts it. And then she discovers what the source of the baby's upset is. It could be a dirty diaper hunger thirst gas whatever. But he points out that by holding this crying unhappy baby the mother will then come to understand the source of its discomfort and be able to remedy it. Is that the kind of thing you are talking about?
    https://youtu.be/XbDyn-2_xIc
  • The following graph shows the percentages of Jewish Americans and of all Americans who perceive there to be "a lot" of discrimination against various groups: Michael Savage and his friends are about the only Jews who think evangelicals are seriously put upon. Evangelicals are the strongest supporters of Israel in the country--stronger supporters of Israel...
  • State institutions openly boast of discriminating against “white people”, so it would make sense to include them on the graph and for them to be the highest bar.

    “Gays and Lesbians” could also be high, because they suffer even in their own family.

    I’m not sure “evangelical Christians”, as a multi-racial group, should be high. Black and Hispanic evangelical Christians aren’t treated the same.

    Discrimination has also come to mean “discrimination by the whiter looking person in the interaction”. We live in puerile times.

    • Replies: @Wency
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I’m not sure “evangelical Christians”, as a multi-racial group, should be high. Black and Hispanic evangelical Christians aren’t treated the same.
     
    Well, Evangelicals are whiter than the population as a whole. I think the archetypal Evangelical in everyone's mind is white, so when people are asked about Evangelicals, most people think of a white person, and I would bet this thinking is even more common among Jews than the population as a whole. Thus, I don't think changing the category to "White Evangelicals" would change the results much.

    But I suppose to your other point, honest question: is there an example of a black or Hispanic equivalent to Eich or Masterpiece Cakeshop that has received differential treatment? I don't know that there is. I imagine the differential treatment comes down to things like blacks being cut slack if they refuse to chant Woke corporate mantras and shibboleths. And I also imagine that the sort of co-workers who say they feel unsafe at the mere presence of an Evangelical co-worker wouldn't say that if the person in question was black.

    But I'd also say a fair amount of anti-Christian discrimination is targeting institutions rather than individuals, and thus it technically applies to Evangelicals (and other conservative Christians) of all races. For example, if the Democrats are successful in their plan to eliminate the tax-exempt status of churches that refuse to submit before the Rainbow Flag, then both blacks and whites will be affected if that forces churches to close down or to scale back their programming.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @V. K. Ovelund, @Charlotte

  • Say that two brothers are born to the same parents eight years apart. Over time, something good or bad happens to the income of the family so that one brother grows up, on average over his childhood, in a richer family than the other. How much does that matter for adult outcomes like mental illness,...
  • @R.G. Camara
    @Kimmelson

    lol. You're an interesting new kind of paid troll. More direct and to the point, less interlarden with tangents than Tiny Duck, and not concern trollish like many of the others.

    Nope, for you its just straight denial and demanding whining.

    And the name....referencing your being a brainless follower of corporate propagandist Jimmy Kimmel...more artful and clever than most. Note: that's not a compliment, your attempt at cleverness reveals your paid trollishness.

    I assume Media Matters and Mr. Soros are trying a new tactic to derail convos. How much do they pay you an hour, baby?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @TWS

    lol. You’re an interesting new kind of paid troll. More direct and to the point, less interlarden with tangents than Tiny Duck, and not concern trollish like many of the others.

    Do you think Tiny Duck was a troll, or a satire?

    I assume Media Matters and Mr. Soros are trying a new tactic to derail convos. How much do they pay you an hour, baby

    Is this a sincere belief of yours, or a satire?

  • @photondancer
    @for-the-record

    5% already?! Holy f*ck that was fast, considering they started from near zero.

    Scandinavia's only hope is that with they rediscover their Viking roots. This sort of projection makes me a lot less skeptical of some of the theories I see proposed on this site. No normal, sane person wants a 30% Muslim Sweden.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Triteleia Laxa, @Anonymous

    No normal, sane person wants a 30% Muslim Sweden.

    By the time it reaches that, Muslims will probably be the majority of those under 18!

    Sweden has a political system which allows for minor party success. This means that a vote for the robustly immigration restrictionist “Sweden Democrats” is never wasted. Yet they still only got 17.5% of the vote at the last election.

    82.5% of Swedes voted for parties that seem content, or even passionate, about this transformation.

    Perhaps they would rather convince themselves that they are moral and good people, than keep a country they are easily comfortable in.

    Self-righteous suicide.

  • The following graph shows the percentages of Jewish Americans and of all Americans who perceive there to be "a lot" of discrimination against various groups: Michael Savage and his friends are about the only Jews who think evangelicals are seriously put upon. Evangelicals are the strongest supporters of Israel in the country--stronger supporters of Israel...
  • @216
    Most Jews think Christian missionairy actvity towards them is only slightly worse than actual murder. Evangelicals (as in the name) are perceived as the most aggressive, hence the hatred.

    Post-Vatican II, asking Jews to convert was forbidden; and recall when Romney was running for President how there was a moral panic over the Mormon "baptisms of the dead".

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Wency, @Shango

    moral panic over the Mormon “baptisms of the dead”.

    I forgot they did that. Sounds spooky. The Wikipedia page has some controversial examples:

    Some members of the LDS Church have been baptized for both victims and perpetrators of The Holocaust, including Anne Frank and Adolf Hitler, contrary to modern church policy.

    I like the intention and dedication those Mormons show, but I can see how non-Mormon religious people might find this sinister.

  • @Wency
    @Triteleia Laxa


    I’m not sure “evangelical Christians”, as a multi-racial group, should be high. Black and Hispanic evangelical Christians aren’t treated the same.
     
    Well, Evangelicals are whiter than the population as a whole. I think the archetypal Evangelical in everyone's mind is white, so when people are asked about Evangelicals, most people think of a white person, and I would bet this thinking is even more common among Jews than the population as a whole. Thus, I don't think changing the category to "White Evangelicals" would change the results much.

    But I suppose to your other point, honest question: is there an example of a black or Hispanic equivalent to Eich or Masterpiece Cakeshop that has received differential treatment? I don't know that there is. I imagine the differential treatment comes down to things like blacks being cut slack if they refuse to chant Woke corporate mantras and shibboleths. And I also imagine that the sort of co-workers who say they feel unsafe at the mere presence of an Evangelical co-worker wouldn't say that if the person in question was black.

    But I'd also say a fair amount of anti-Christian discrimination is targeting institutions rather than individuals, and thus it technically applies to Evangelicals (and other conservative Christians) of all races. For example, if the Democrats are successful in their plan to eliminate the tax-exempt status of churches that refuse to submit before the Rainbow Flag, then both blacks and whites will be affected if that forces churches to close down or to scale back their programming.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @V. K. Ovelund, @Charlotte

    Reasonable points. I would like to see a comparison of “white people” versus “evangelical Christians” to see how much overlap there is in the perception of poll respondents.

    Your institutional point, though not directly related to the OP, I find most convincing.

    Evangelicals, as controllers of alternative institutional power, of Christ, not “progress”, will likely stand or fall together. Any value other than marching in lockstep with that emanating from the DNC election committee, makes you suspect – left, right or completely alternative.

    “Progress” seems to now be defined as whatever will nudge society into a shape that will elect Democratic Presidents.

  • It's been decades since I last read George Orwell's 1984, but portions of that classic dystopian novel have become part of our common political culture. There's that famous scene in which an orator is giving a lengthy wartime speech at a political rally, praising the heroic ally of Eurasia and denouncing the arch-foe of Eastasia,...
  • I find this article almost completely convincing. It was a Chinese biolab leak.

    https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-how-amateur-sleuths-broke-wuhan-lab-story-embarrassed-media-1596958

    • Replies: @Anon62
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Biden promised "the United States will also keep working with like-minded partners around the world to press China to participate in a full, transparent, evidence-based international investigation and to provide access to all relevant data and evidence."

    One is driven to ask why Biden maintains his focus on China and fails to explain why the US government shovelled taxpayer funds into Wuhan in support of alleged dangerous research being conducted within an alleged unsafe facility.

    Why was the US intelligence community unable to unearth the materials found by the DRASTIC team of amateurs?

    Does such demonstrated incompetence inspire confidence in the ability of the exact same intelligence community to "bring us closer to a definitive conclusion."?

  • The YouGov poll on which animal Americans could take in a fight (covered by Sailer) was complemented by another poll asking Brits those same questions. American women sure are confident. The Brits are... realistic? (On the large animals, at any rate). Anyhow, for what little opinion (never having fought any of these animals) is worth:...
  • It looks like people thought a honey badger should win against a walrus. At an average of 10kgs, I have no idea what a badger is supposed to do against a 1000kg walrus. It is like a baby fighting a sumo wrestler.

    I also don’t get which adults think they would lose to a rat or a house cat. I guess it must be that they, themselves, would refuse to fight or flee.

    Many of us think of our species as physically weak, but we hunted wooly mammoths, which were 6000kgs, with big sticks.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Triteleia Laxa

    One gets the odd Wolverine attack, where they leap from trees onto nice, supple bear spines to burrow into, but I think the fact remains outside a carefully placed and brutally carried out sneak attack, a wolverine (which to me is a more brutal honey badger) would generally lose to a bear in a head-on fight, and any larger animal.

    , @AKAHorace
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Remember this is unarmed, which I take to mean with your bare hands alone. With even a walking stick humans become much more dangerous.

    , @Tom Marvolo Riddle
    @Triteleia Laxa

    50% of the US/UK population is medically obese, and about 90% are cowards. I think they have accurately represented themselves here, perhaps have even overestimated themselves, as sad as that may seem. Most of the fights I have been in ended in less than 30 seconds, and not because I'm a great fighter. The other guy just gave up as soon as he took a few blows, or more often, as soon as I advanced on him, and I'm a small guy at 140 lbs. Did lose one pretty badly, one of my ribs is still a bit janky from it. SoCal native.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  • History doesn’t change to fit our wishes. We wish whites hadn’t imported blacks as slaves and had not changed immigration policy in 1965. However, in a multiracial society, history often isn’t about facts. It’s a weapon. A story about the past justifies current policy. When history doesn’t provide a suitably horrific example, invent one. The...
  • @Ron Unz
    @Rurik


    Today’s white exodus from California is a direct consequence of that treason and genocidal hatred.
     
    Non-Californians sometimes get *very* strange ideas about California if they spend too much time with FoxNews, Breitbart, and other rightwing propaganda-outlets.

    You seem to believe that California has been undergoing a massive white exodus. Well, let's look as some numbers...

    In 1970, California's (non-Hispanic) white population totaled about 15.2 million. By 2020, *fifty years* later, our white population had declined to 14.4 million. That's a drop of about 5% in fifty years, or around 0.1% per year. If the white population has been declining by 0.1% per year, I'm not sure I would call that a "white exodus."

    Indeed, I think California whites led the demographic revolution in the 1970s, generally averaging only one or two children, with their TFR dropping well below replacement. So I wouldn't be surprised if that change would account for the entire (very slight) population decline since 1970.

    It's certainly true that lots of whites have moved out of the state over the decades, mostly because of high housing costs and traffic, but that's been almost entirely balanced by other whites moving into California.

    Replies: @RSDB, @Just another serf, @anon, @Triteleia Laxa, @Rurik, @Truth, @Tom Marvolo Riddle

    that’s been almost entirely balanced by other whites moving into California.

    Yes, but they came from Europe, North Africa, the Causcasus and the Middle East.

    A cursory reading suggests that a full half a million have come from just Armenia to stop that white number from shrinking astonishingly.

  • From the New York Times Health news section: Medical Journals Blind to Racism as Health Crisis, Critics Say As a prominent editor steps down, the influential JAMA journals promise changes regarding staff diversity and more inclusive research. By Apoorva Mandavilli June 2, 2021 The top editor of JAMA, the influential medical journal, stepped down on...
  • @syonredux
    Thomas Chatterton Williams:

    A perfect example of Racecraft in practice. That the NFL could even coherently define what “black” and “white” mean in these highly mixed populations and then use those categories to make stable and fair judgments about *individuals* is as preposterous as it it is terrifying.

     

    Tom, I don't know how to break this to you, but the average White American 99%+ European.....


    https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1400439084112359426

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Anarchoproctologist

    I believe he was thinking that, unless the line was drawn at “one drop”, there would have been a lot of mixed race players defined as “white”. The lack of a “mixed race” category ensures this.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Most of the Black NFL players that I've seen look at least 50% Sub-Saharan African.