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    PBS stations around the U.S. were scheduled to show a riveting new Frontline documentary, “One Day in Gaza,” but at the last minute PBS pulled it. The film is missing important context about the issue, but it includes footage that Americans, as Israel’s top funders, should see – including a young, unarmed teen being shot...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @attilathehen
    As an American, I want to know why we don't see Gaza-like scenes on our southern border? The Israelis are protecting their borders. What is the Orange Commander-in-Cuck doing? What are the cuck RINOS doing?

    Israel is the place for all Western Jews. We need to get rid of dual-citizenship and we will have many Jews moving to Israel. What are the GOP and Trump doing about this?

    I have no interest in melodramatic, low IQ, negroid Muslims. I don't care what the Israelis do to them.

    As long as Christian sites in Israel are safe, I am happy. I spent a Christmas in Israel and had a nice time. With their annexation of the Golan Heights, my favorite saint's village in the Galilee is safe. A new church was built for her. When will a church be built in Saudi Arabia?

    I hope the Israelis take control of the West Bank. The Christian towns of Nazareth and Bethelem will once again be safe and able to thrive. The Palestinian Christians can move back.

    The recent EU elections have been interesting. Marine LePen won big. France better learn from what Israel is doing because their civil war is coming. The Yellow Vest and the Black Vests will soon be at war. The Black Vests will have to be deported.

    The cucks can no longer hide.

    Replies: @Art, @Jacques Sheete, @Saggy, @anon

    I hope the Israelis take control of the West Bank. The Christian towns of Nazareth and Bethelem will once again be safe and able to thrive. The Palestinian Christians can move back.

    Here is the link –
    https://www.srugim.co.il/332395-%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9D-%D7%99%D7%A9-%D7%9C%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A8-%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%90%D7%9D

    It’s an Israeli site, but google will translate ….

    The great Christian church in Paris is on fire. Should I regret it?

    This is not our work for the time being. There is no mitzvah to look for Christian churches abroad and burn them. In our holy land, the subject is more complicated. Indeed, the Satmar Rebbe wrote one of his reasons not to immigrate to Israel, because here it is a mitzvah to burn churches, and since they do not do so, they also violate the prohibition.

    So, in Israel they don’t burn the Christian churches, yet, but they want to …

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    You're a cuck. They won't if Christians stand strong. That's the problem, Christians are cucked on so many levels.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @AaronB
    @Art

    Art, you are a white American, correct?

    I do not understand why you are so passionate about a conflict that you are not involved in. Don't you think your time would be better spent dealing with the very real problems in American society?

    This conflict has some weird symbolic value for you, and it isn't healthy.

    I get that America is too involved with Israel, and I would support ending American financial aid to Israel. I also don't support Jews in America manipulating American policy in favor of Israeli aims, but this is really something you have to fix in your political system.

    I also think its detestable that American Jews oppose immigration to Israel but demonize anyone who opposes it for America or Europe - that kind of thing is not only evil, but is a dangerous game that will come back to haunt them. I tell this to my American Jewish friends who think this way.

    But Israelis don't think that way - Yair Netanyahu, the son of the prime minister, has tweeted support for Oban and other anti-immigration European leaders.

    But Israel has acquired a weird symbolic value for too many people who have no rational reason to be interested in the conflict, and an object for emotionally transferring all sorts of unhealthy personal obsessions.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Jacques Sheete, @turtle, @Art, @renfro

    But Israel has acquired a weird symbolic value for too many people who have no rational reason to be interested in the conflict, and an object for emotionally transferring all sorts of unhealthy personal obsessions.

    Maybe it’s because the US has been fighting Israel’s wars for 30 years, killing millions in the process and turning large parts of the ME into killing fields. All the while threatening to expand the conflict and maybe start WW III. So, there’s that.

    Or, could it be the holohoax, a grotesque and preposterous lie that has been used to drive a dagger into the heart of western culture and society. The Jews are out to destroy the west, and in many instances , for example with 3rd world immigration, they don’t bother to pretend otherwise. Maybe that’s the reason.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Saggy

    I agree. But the focus should be on American Jews, and patching up your own political system so that it can't be exploited, and generally fixing the cultural decline you're going through.

    Its easy to vent on Israel, I get that. But aside from cheap emotional satisfaction it won't help you. And Israeli Jews are the only Jews who want to see a healthy West. The prime ministers son has been tweeting support for anti-immigration European politicians.

    I'd wager none of the "morally outraged" people here give a shit about Israel - there are far worse conflict zones in the world.

    It's a substitute satisfaction for those who feel powerless to fix their own problems - but it's better to try and gain power.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • @AaronB
    @Saggy

    I agree. But the focus should be on American Jews, and patching up your own political system so that it can't be exploited, and generally fixing the cultural decline you're going through.

    Its easy to vent on Israel, I get that. But aside from cheap emotional satisfaction it won't help you. And Israeli Jews are the only Jews who want to see a healthy West. The prime ministers son has been tweeting support for anti-immigration European politicians.

    I'd wager none of the "morally outraged" people here give a shit about Israel - there are far worse conflict zones in the world.

    It's a substitute satisfaction for those who feel powerless to fix their own problems - but it's better to try and gain power.

    Replies: @Saggy

    And Israeli Jews are the only Jews who want to see a healthy West.

    The Israeli Jews are the scourge of the earth at present, and they are anxiously awaiting their mashiach who will lead them to destroy us all …..they even teach that to their kindergarten students, as you can learn by watching ….


    Video Link, but I suspect you know that.

    • Agree: homahr
    • Replies: @Art
    @Saggy

    That video of the elders and the Jew children displays pure evil. Telling a 5 year old that it is him against the world - is child abuse - Period.

    We are watching the making of an human lemming, absolutely incapable of rational political thought when it come to Jews.

    That mendacious information is buried deep in his subliminal make up.

    When he is thirty, he will be like AaronB – unable to tell right from wrong when it comes to Jew political matters. He will be capable of telling lie after lie after lie.


    Think Peace --- Do NO Harm --- Art

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  • @AaronB
    @Art

    I agree. That's bad stuff, and I don't support it. That's also not normative Judaism, and certainly not a common attitude among secular Israelis, or regular religious ones.

    We all have our extremists unfortunately. There's some bad stuff in the Talmud that I would want expurgated, but also some really good stuff - it's not actually so far from many of Jesus's teaching, although certainly not identical.

    Replies: @Saggy

    That’s also not normative Judaism,

    It is 100% normative Judaism, and it is also 100% normative Judaism to lie about it when addressing the goyim. Here is another Israeli yeshiva student who explains …

    Video Link

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Saggy

    I should clarify - these things are in fact found in normative Judaism. I don't deny that.

    However, in mainstream orthodox normative Judaism these days, these things do not have a prominent place. The extremist sects, however, emphasize them. And the secular Israelis, the majority of the country, completely reject them.

    I personally think all these disgusting passages should be expurgated from the Talmud. There are also positive teachings about gentiles - like that those who keep the 7 Noahide laws have a full share of heaven. It's worth noting also its not a racial thing, as any gentile can convert.

    However, all groups should have some myth that elevates them above others for social unity - whites used to have that, and will again when they get better.

    But of course, these myths should not be allowed to become too pernicious.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @AaronB
    @Saggy

    I should clarify - these things are in fact found in normative Judaism. I don't deny that.

    However, in mainstream orthodox normative Judaism these days, these things do not have a prominent place. The extremist sects, however, emphasize them. And the secular Israelis, the majority of the country, completely reject them.

    I personally think all these disgusting passages should be expurgated from the Talmud. There are also positive teachings about gentiles - like that those who keep the 7 Noahide laws have a full share of heaven. It's worth noting also its not a racial thing, as any gentile can convert.

    However, all groups should have some myth that elevates them above others for social unity - whites used to have that, and will again when they get better.

    But of course, these myths should not be allowed to become too pernicious.

    Replies: @Saggy

    There are also positive teachings about gentiles – like that those who keep the 7 Noahide laws have a full share of heaven.

    Well, the goyim will serve as slaves to the Jews, while worshiping the Jewish G-D, that’s the first Nohaide law, and …. if the goyim slips up …. from wiki ‘The 7 Laws of Noah’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

    The Talmud lists the punishment for blaspheming the Ineffable Name of God as death. The sons of Noah are to be executed by decapitation for most crimes,[25] considered one of the lightest capital punishments,[26] by stoning if he has intercourse with a Jewish betrothed woman,[27] or by strangulation if the Jewish woman has completed the marriage ceremonies, but had not yet consummated the marriage.[27]

    The Jews are so damn evil and degenerate it’s almost comical. Mike Myers should do a sendup. Ghouls from hell is the most apt description.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Saggy

    Right, and Jews could be stoned to death for violating the Sabbath or disrespecting their father and mother. It's not like the law was more severe towards gentiles - the opposite.

    The ancient bible code is extremely harsh by our standard, although somewhat mild by ancient standards.

    But that is why the Bible in its own was considered by Jews as completely inadequate as a guide if not supplemented by the oral tradition - it was far too severe for everyone, including Jews.

    There is the death penalty for trivial things, but the Talmud says a court that passed death sentence once in 70 years for any reason, even murder, was considered bloodthirsty.

    Which is not to say there are not highly objectionable things in Judaism - there certainly are.

    , @jeff stryker
    @Saggy

    SAGGY


    If Jews are so evil and degenerate than why are are so few of them in prison for the ghastly crimes of the inner-city (Raping elderly white women, shooting people over $5 worth of crack) or the general petty stupidity of the trailer parks (Meth labs blowing up, silly sex crimes, Opoid abuse) or the gang violence of the barrio (drug smuggling, gang killings) or the RICO-stuff of New Jersey among the Italians?

    When Jews do go to prison, it is for some convoluted white-collar con.

    Do you really feel deep fear walking through Jewish neighborhoods? Will your children's school be ruined if Jewish children move into the neighborhood? Was your wife carjacked by a Jewish divorce lawyer?

    Are Jews ruining major cities with crime?

    We can talk about their cultural degradation via the media. But on the street do you feel unsafe because of Jews?

    Does your property value crash when Jews move into the neighborhood?

    Replies: @Saggy, @anarchyst

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @jeff stryker
    @Saggy

    SAGGY


    If Jews are so evil and degenerate than why are are so few of them in prison for the ghastly crimes of the inner-city (Raping elderly white women, shooting people over $5 worth of crack) or the general petty stupidity of the trailer parks (Meth labs blowing up, silly sex crimes, Opoid abuse) or the gang violence of the barrio (drug smuggling, gang killings) or the RICO-stuff of New Jersey among the Italians?

    When Jews do go to prison, it is for some convoluted white-collar con.

    Do you really feel deep fear walking through Jewish neighborhoods? Will your children's school be ruined if Jewish children move into the neighborhood? Was your wife carjacked by a Jewish divorce lawyer?

    Are Jews ruining major cities with crime?

    We can talk about their cultural degradation via the media. But on the street do you feel unsafe because of Jews?

    Does your property value crash when Jews move into the neighborhood?

    Replies: @Saggy, @anarchyst

    Do you really feel deep fear walking through Jewish neighborhoods?

    Well, in the US, no. But in Israel, yes. After all, in Israel it’s a mitzvah to spit on Christians, and I might be mistaken for a Christian, see ‘Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them’, https://www.haaretz.com/1.4715226.

    We know from Yossi Gurwitz, linked earlier, that the Jews in the US are on their good behavior vis a vis the goyim. So street confrontations are not a problem here.

    Here, the fear is global. US attacks Iran, Iran attacks Israel, etc., etc., then Russia attacks someone and we’re all toast. Israel is a ticking time-bomb and it might take us all along with it.

  • Our first year in Ea Kly was a failure. We lost quite a bit of money. For the past month, I’ve been in Saigon so we could formulate a new game plan. Even in a low-wage economy like Vietnam, plastic recycling is barely feasible. Seeing people falling is funny. In his magisterial Crowds and Power,...
  • ‘White people will go down, in short, and this is great news not just to this hostile, Jewish-dominated elite, but to the many whites who have come to reject their heritage as shameful and hateful, but how do you get a population to despise itself so, to the point of cultural suicide?’

    “Human history would be too fatuous for anything were it not for the cleverness imported into it by the weak—take at once the most important instance. All the world’s efforts against the ‘aristocrats’, the ‘mighty’, the ‘masters’, the ‘holders of power’, are negligible by comparison with what has been accomplished against those classes by the Jews—the Jews, that priestly nation which eventually realized that the one method of effecting satisfaction on its enemies and tyrants was by means of a radical transvaluation of values, which was at the same time an act of the cleverest revenge. Yet the method was only appropriate to a nation of priests, to a nation of the most jealously nursed priestly revengefulness. It was the Jews who, in opposition to the aristocratic equation (good = aristocratic = beautiful = happy = loved by the gods), dared with a terrifying logic to suggest the contrary equation, and indeed to maintain with the teeth of the most profound hatred (the hatred of weakness) this contrary equation, namely, ‘the wretched are alone the good; the poor, the weak, the lowly, are alone the good…’”
    “This Jesus of Nazareth, the incarnate gospel of love, this ‘Redeemer” bringing salvation and victory to the poor, the sick, the sinful—was he not really temptation in its most sinister and irresistible form, temptation to take the tortuous path to those very Jewish values and those very Jewish ideals? Has not Israel really obtained the final goal of its sublime revenge, by the tortuous paths of this ‘Redeemer’, for all that he might pose as Israel’s adversary and Israel’s destroyer? Is it not due to the black magic of a really great policy of revenge, of a far-seeing, burrowing revenge, both acting and calculating with slowness, that Israel himself must repudiate before all the world the actual instrument of his own revenge and nail it to the cross, so that all the world—that is, all the enemies of Israel—could nibble without suspicion at this very bait? Could, moreover, any human mind with all its elaborate ingenuity invent a bait that was more truly dangerous?” Nietzsche

    • Agree: Saggy
  • Linh Dinh wrote:

    The Nazis’ racism was but a mirror and fleeting offshoot of Jewish racial supremacy, which endures to manipulate, fleece and wreak havoc on humanity, with Jews themselves among its victims, so Jews, too, must be delivered from this sick mindset. No more chosen people.

    I find this really objectionable. First, the National Socialists, or the “Hitler followers” if you wish, or the NSDAP, never considered or called themselves a Chosen People. The Germans in the 1920’s and 30s were an oppressed people by Europe (Britain, France, Belgium, Poland, Czechoslovakia especially) and the United States of America. The “Nazis” as you call them were championing their own people, seeking to build their self-respect again and free themselves from the debilitating, destructive Versailles Dictate.

    Never were they wanting to “manipulate, fleece and wreak havoc on humanity” … that was the British and their helpers, the US and the Jews. Everything the “Nazis” did was in German self-defense and German self-preservation. To lump Jewish Racial Supremacism with German “Nazism,” as in “Zio-Nazis” in the so-popular pro-Palentinian jargon, is a factual error and misunderstanding. Many pro-Palestinian activists admit this, but say that “it works” so continue to use it nevertheless. Are Palestinians more important than Germans? Not in my book. Truth should never be compromised.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Speaking of objectionable, this meme is objectionable (to all the right people):

    http://judaism.is/images/niemoller%20jr.jpg

    , @Saggy
    @Carolyn Yeager


    The Nazis’ racism was but a mirror and fleeting offshoot of Jewish racial supremacy,
     
    Thanks for not letting this idiocy slide by.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    Linh Dinh wrote:

    The Nazis’ racism was but a mirror and fleeting offshoot of Jewish racial supremacy, which endures to manipulate, fleece and wreak havoc on humanity, with Jews themselves among its victims, so Jews, too, must be delivered from this sick mindset. No more chosen people.
     
    I find this really objectionable. First, the National Socialists, or the “Hitler followers” if you wish, or the NSDAP, never considered or called themselves a Chosen People. The Germans in the 1920's and 30s were an oppressed people by Europe (Britain, France, Belgium, Poland, Czechoslovakia especially) and the United States of America. The “Nazis” as you call them were championing their own people, seeking to build their self-respect again and free themselves from the debilitating, destructive Versailles Dictate.

    Never were they wanting to “manipulate, fleece and wreak havoc on humanity” … that was the British and their helpers, the US and the Jews. Everything the “Nazis” did was in German self-defense and German self-preservation. To lump Jewish Racial Supremacism with German “Nazism,” as in “Zio-Nazis” in the so-popular pro-Palentinian jargon, is a factual error and misunderstanding. Many pro-Palestinian activists admit this, but say that “it works” so continue to use it nevertheless. Are Palestinians more important than Germans? Not in my book. Truth should never be compromised.

    Replies: @Al Liguori, @Saggy

    The Nazis’ racism was but a mirror and fleeting offshoot of Jewish racial supremacy,

    Thanks for not letting this idiocy slide by.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    @Saggy

    Nazism IS the mirror image of judaism;

    Ingroup preference.
    Outgroup hostility.
    Racial purity.

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  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Carolyn Yeager
    @Lo

    You know zilch about German National Socialists if you think they would approve your talking to me like this. You better believe you would be strongly disciplined. Plenty of German women spoke about German honor.

    The Holocaust is as "real" an issue today as it has ever been. I'd wager you're saying this because you are ignorant about it, thus unable to discuss it intelligently.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Lo

    The Holocaust is as “real” an issue today as it has ever been.

    The holohoax is more important today than ever, the US has been bombing the ME continuously, EVERY DAY, for thirty years, even during the Clinton years, because of Israel’s theft of Palestinian land, abetted by ‘international law(lessness)’ in the form of the UN and the holohoax; 40,000 bombs in 2017, https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/30/16925544/trump-state-union-2018-military-2017, and this unending insanity could easily lead to Armageddon.

  • (1) So yes, basically everyone Alt Right OR Alt Lite is now getting their channels deleted, demonetized, or at least having some of their videos deleted. I don't closely follow the vlogosphere, but here is a Twitter thread that seems to be pretty comprehensive. It's worth pointing out that demonetization is nearly as bad as...
  • @Dmitry

    problem of all the significant Russians being on YouTube as well, I am certainly not going to be talking about Dagestani IQs on Russian platforms (i.e. for the same reason that German nationalists use VK over Facebook).
     
    If I recall, YouTube is one of the websites the authorities monitor. They are looking at VK and YouTube platforms if you look through the lists.

    https://minjust.ru/ru/mobile/extremist-materials?field_extremist_content_value=&page=24

    They don't (or didn't until now) monitor Facebook, Twitter or Instagram though.

    Also when I skim the list, they are only very rarely banning English language material, and it's really extremist material, not someone discussing IQs.

    Video format though could be good for a lot of topics you blog about. And especially anything related to outside world, travels, architecture, etc, where it could be incorporated into a text blog.

    Replies: @jimmyriddle, @Anatoly Karlin, @peterAUS

    The Russian authorities and the YouTube censors are both prioritising popular dissident content.

    So, the Russians leave English language conent alone.

    And YT don’t bother a channel like Brother Nathaniel (whose entire output consists of “What can I blame the Jews for, today?”). Instead, they go after centre-right anti-globalists like Sargon and Crowder.

    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @jimmyriddle


    YT don’t bother a channel like Brother Nathaniel (whose entire output consists of “What can I blame the Jews for, today?”). Instead, they go after centre-right anti-globalists like Sargon and Crowder.
     
    They'll very seldom deplatform clowns. Clowns serve a valuable purpose in de-legitimating the opposition. Look how ridiculous our critics are!

    Meanwhile, I don't watch videos so what happens (or doesn't) on YouTube doesn't matter much to me.

    And a very wise man once said: whatever the censors would cut out, should be cut out. Because if it's obvious enough to the censors, it's probably stupid as well. This is, I believe, what Mr Karlin is driving at when he says:


    it may also impose a certain discipline on content producers, forcing them to pick their words with care... most of the greatest “subversive” literature was produced in moderately repressive ancien regimes, not democratic republics with strong freedoms of speech.
     

    Replies: @Ace, @Anon, @Dumbo, @BengaliCanadianDude

    , @Johnny Rottenborough
    @jimmyriddle

    jimmyriddle—YouTube does bother Brother Nathanael. From his recent video, Soldier Boy:


    YouTube has censored probably most of my videos. Last week over a 20 minute period, I got 154 notices that YouTube believes in the ‘principles of free speech’. Doesn’t say the First Amendment, but ‘principles of free speech’. And then the big ‘Howwweeeever’. Do you realize they censored my religious video, Messiah Came to Conquer Death, because it’s offensive? Well, who is it offensive to, huh? A little tiny minority that thinks they rule it all.
     

    Replies: @jimmyriddle

    , @Chris Mallory
    @jimmyriddle

    Crowder is a gutless chickenhawk who loved to promote war but never had the balls to sign his name to enlistment papers. He is a big man against idiot college kids, but when faced with grown ups he wets his pants.

    , @Dumbo
    @jimmyriddle

    Brother Nathanael has had several videos demonetized or downright censored, and it's not from today.

    , @BengaliCanadianDude
    @jimmyriddle

    BN has suffered the pangs of demonetization as well as censorship arising as a result of the current political climate surrounding us. His platform/output is constructed that way(as you say) because there is pinpoint accuracy contained within his words, and because there is an insatiable demand for the answers to many of the persistent problems ailling society and ((who)) is behind them. Brother Nathaniel fulfills that demand with his well-versed knowledge into the instincts and mindsets of them, coupled with his own unmatcheable personal experience( He's Jewish).

    Crowder is an estabilishment republican, and the icon of Pop Culture Republicanism, stretching into a bit of hipsterism. They aren't ans won't be doing anything to him. He regularly attends CPAC, he's a warmongerer and he's an arrogant pseudo intellectual who ( like shapiro) can only handle unprepared college students who haven't brushed up on their information before and don't apply careful scrutiny to the rubbish that he sputters out. Both of these doofuses also engulf these college students with a billion points ina short amount of time as a distraction, as well as utlizing diversionary tactics like constant erruptions, twisting of their words, etc.. He is a pro-war philosemite who (if he could) would estabilish a "Holocaust Memorial Day". Calling him a dishonest, and pathetic pseudointellectual would be doing a major injustice to the words. If I was a word, I would abhor being associated with the ranks of Crowder and company. Puh-Lease.

    , @Anonymous
    @jimmyriddle

    Brother Nathaniel got shut down.

  • Voters looking ahead to 2020 are being bombarded with soundbites from the twenty plus Democratic would-be candidates. That Joe Biden is apparently leading the pack according to opinion polls should come as no surprise as he stands for nothing apart from being the Establishment favorite who will tirelessly work to support the status quo. The...
  • I believe the only serious anti-war candidate is Rand Paul. The fact that he is totally ignored by both ‘left’ and ‘right’ makes me suspicious of both.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Saggy

    Ron was truly heroic, Rand is useless. Just another pro-Israeli tool.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • We all know that the Neocons are by far the largest and most influential group of sponsors of US wars of aggression. They are the ones who lobbied the hardest for the invasion of Iraq, and they are the ones which for decades have tried every possible dirty trick to lure the US into acts...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    The freedom of speech on US colleges was total, and it was understood and expected that all opinions and ideas were to compete on their intrinsic merits and not carefully parsed for any sign of crimethink.

    Nonsense. Butz published ‘The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry’ in 1976 and the backlash against him personally was immediate and fierce, but unsuccessful as he kept his tenured position, and the discussion of the most important hoax in the history of the world was completely absent from US campuses.

    Bradley Smith began a ‘campus campaign’ to raise awareness of the hoax in the early 90s and was met the opposition at every turn. See http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n4p18_Staff.html

    Smith placed the following ad in the University of Wisconsin student newspaper, the Badger Herald, the complete text of the ad was:
    The Holocaust Question:
    THE POWER OF TABOO
    http://www.codoh.com
    Here’s what happened next:

    [MORE]

    Feb. 24 – Bradley Smith in a YouTube video urges the newspaper not to accede to anticipated criticism Coffee with Bradley Smith: The Badger Herald is Not Alone
    Feb. 25 – Badger Herald editor Jason Smathers publishes an article denouncing Smith UW community strong enough to face ad, reject it
    Feb. 26 – Jason Smathers defends his decision to run the Advertisement linked to Holocaust denial causes stir for Badger Herald
    Feb. 26 – The ADL sends a message to the Badger Herald Holocaust Denial Unacceptable
    Feb. 28 – The other UW student newspaper, the Daily Cardinal, weights in Journalistic ethics still apply to ad space
    Mar. 1 – Smith responds to the editor’s comments with a YouTube video UCoffee with Bradley Smith: A fearful experience for a Student Editor
    Mar. 2 – UW Chancellor Biddy Martin writes an op-ed for the Badger Herald Truth and scholarship greatest tools in combatting falsehood
    Mar. 3 – Bradley Smith comments on Hillel director Greg Steinberger’s request to pull the ad Coffee with Bradley Smith: Compromising Jewish Students
    Mar. 3 – Hundreds of UW students and faculty, including UW Chancellor Biddy Martin, attend rally protesting the ad Protesting Holocaust denial ad in a UW paper
    Mar. 4 – Bradley Smith responds to Biddy Martin’s op-ed Coffee with Bradley Smith : EDUCATION OR SUBJUGATION?
    Mar. 4 – UW convenes an ‘Ethics Panel’ to discuss the ad in an open forum Panel debates Holocaust denial ad
    Mar. 4 – The Badger Herald publishes another op-ed damning the ad BH crosses line between free speech and hateful rhetoric
    Mar. 5 – Nick Penzenstadler, publisher of the Badger Herald, explains why the ad was run Why The Badger Herald ran that Holocaust denier’s ad
    Mar. 5 – A former editor of the Badger Herald wrote a featured letter to the editor Smith ad Reveals Own Ignorance
    Mar. 8 – UW Journalism Professor Lewis Friedland publishes an article on the ad The First Amendment and Moral Responsibility
    Mar. 10 – Students stage a holocaust remembrance rally and protest ad Wisconsin Hillel Fights Holocaust Denial
    Mar. 11 – Smith submitted a letter to the editor to defend the ad, it was not published.
    Mar. 11 – The Badger Herald publishes another op-ed from a philosophy major condemning the ad Herald wrong in free speech argument
    Mar. 12 – The Board of Directors of the Badger Herald revamps their advertising policies An open letter to the UW campus
    Mar 14. – The director of the USHMM, Sara Bloomfield weighs in on the “deplorable ad campaign” A Note from the Director
    Mar. 15 – Smith responds to Sara Bloomfield Coffee with Bradley Smith : Smith chats with Director of the USHMM
    Mar. 25 – Repercussions of the ad are discussed in the Jewish Chronicle Holocaust denial ads spurs student activism
    Mar. 25 – UW Political Science Professor Donald Downs weights in Hate and Free Speech at Wisconsin
    Mar. 30 – UW Hillel director Greg Steinberg weighs in on the role of the student newspaper Rethinking the Campus Newspaper

  • Voters looking ahead to 2020 are being bombarded with soundbites from the twenty plus Democratic would-be candidates. That Joe Biden is apparently leading the pack according to opinion polls should come as no surprise as he stands for nothing apart from being the Establishment favorite who will tirelessly work to support the status quo. The...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Saggy

    Ron was truly heroic, Rand is useless. Just another pro-Israeli tool.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Ron was truly heroic, Rand is useless. Just another pro-Israeli tool.

    Well, thanks for the (only) response. But, does it have to be idiotic? Can you do better? RP is constantly in the news trying to restrain the US military …

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/06/20/rand_paul_to_senate_on_war_powers_weve_been_at_war_illegally_for_a_long_time_now.html

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/pompeo-rand-paul-iran-war-1266526

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/congress-finally-stands-up-to-a-president-and-says-you-cant-go-to-war-unless-we-say-so

    http://truthinmedia.com/rand-paul-aumf-president-unlimited-war-powers/

    Etc.

    What more can he do? He gets absolutely no support from the left or right beyond idiotic comments like yours. Again, if you can do better, please do.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Saggy

    OK, Rand is a lot better than most in Congress, no question. And I like his libertarianism. But on Israel he is largely silent and therefore part of the problem. In fact, he’s become essentially pro-Israel since going on one of those junkets a few years ago and being properly “educated” (or is it black-mailed?).

    Replies: @Carroll Price, @Saggy

    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Saggy

    Remember, DC is not fomenting war with Iran for its own sake, or harassing Russia for its own sake. They’re doing it because both of those nations are barriers to expansionist Israeli objectives in the ME. If all Rand can do is oppose war in the abstract (not necessarily a bad thing, mind you), then he is completely missing the big picture.

    Replies: @Rich

    , @Rurik
    @Saggy


    What more can he do?
     
    For one, he can stop telling lies.

    In questioning Secretary of State John Kerry at a hearing on the Iran deal before the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Sen. Paul cited what he said were the Ayatollah Khamenei’s words:

    “The Americans say they stopped Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. They know it’s not true.”

    Claiming that this contradicts the administration’s contention that the deal “would prevent [the Iranians] from getting a nuclear weapon,” Paul averred that “the Ayatollah is saying the opposite.”

    But what did Khamenei really say? Here’s the entire quote:

    “The Americans say they stopped Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. They know it’s not true. We had a fatwa, declaring nuclear weapons to be religiously forbidden. It had nothing to do with the nuclear talks.”

    This was no mistake on Rand Paul’s part. It was a lie, and he repeated the lie to Fox News in an interview with Lou Dobbs:

    “I made a point that the ayatollah is now saying that the deal does not prevent them from having a nuclear weapon and I thought that’s precisely what the deal is supposed to do, so I don’t know how we can have an agreement that President Obama says means one thing, John Kerry says means one thing, but the ayatollah says doesn’t mean that at all.”
     

    https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/07/28/rand-paul-fraud-failure-liar/

    I still believe there's hope for Rand, and I consider him one of the few for whom I feel that way.

    But when I read of his sickening lies about Iran's nuclear intentions, I lost heart.

    His dad would have never lied like that. Especially a lie that encourages more ZUSA belligerence in the Middle East.

    So now my support for Rand is as tepid as his truth-telling vis-a-vis the Eternal Wars for Israel.

    But I'd still like to see a Rand/Tulsi ticket for 2020, if for no other reason than having an anti-Eternal-War protest vote.

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    @RobinG

    "Our battles?" You admit you all work as a group, rushing to do damage control for one another. Even Giraldi came to Renfro's defense (in a previous thread).

    Your battle is to get a Democrat elected in 2020; to get rid of nationalist Trump. You all hate the West - the Great Satan - and want to get rid of it too by totally changing it. There, I defined you. Tribal loyalties at work.

    Replies: @geokat62, @ChuckOrloski, @Saggy

    to get rid of nationalist Trump.

    Trump is a nationalist, for sure, the problem is …. the nation …

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFK6a4JBrWU
    Video Link

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    @Saggy

    Enemies can always pick out images to fill up a 3-minute video. Are you really influenced by such childish efforts? If you really think Trump is loyal to Israel over the United States, please come out and say so ... if you dare.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Saggy

    OK, Rand is a lot better than most in Congress, no question. And I like his libertarianism. But on Israel he is largely silent and therefore part of the problem. In fact, he’s become essentially pro-Israel since going on one of those junkets a few years ago and being properly “educated” (or is it black-mailed?).

    Replies: @Carroll Price, @Saggy

    But on Israel he is largely silent and therefore part of the problem.

    The primary manifestation of the problem with Israel, as opposed to the Jews in general, is the endless wars the US fights in the ME. And RP has been 100% consistently against these wars and 100% for a return to constitutional govt., which includes congressional control of the military. So, he is 100% effectively opposed to Israeli control of the US military, which is what we have now. That’s the main thing.

    Let’s see what he says about NATO – Dr. Rand Paul Votes Against Further Expanding NATO – https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-votes-against-further-expanding-nato

    The Iran deal – Rand Paul says it’s a ‘mistake’ to exit nuclear deal – CNNPolitics https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/politics/trump-iran-nuclear-rand-paul/index.html

    Russia – Report: Sen. Rand Paul files amendment to remove Russia sanctions – https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/25/rand-paul-files-amendment-remove-russia-sanctions/1421837002/

    Rand Paul Suggests Talking to Russia About the Size of NATO – https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/rand-paul-suggests-talking-russia-size-nato

    GOP lawmakers criticize Trump’s decision to withdraw from nuclear … – https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-lawmakers-criticize-trumps-decision-to-withdraw-from-nuclear-arms-treaty/2018/10/21/20e4d726-d53d-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html

    Etc. What the hell more do you want? Direct overt criticism of Israel is political suicide.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Carolyn Yeager
    @Saggy

    Enemies can always pick out images to fill up a 3-minute video. Are you really influenced by such childish efforts? If you really think Trump is loyal to Israel over the United States, please come out and say so ... if you dare.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Enemies can always pick out images to fill up a 3-minute video.

    His enemies didn’t make this video. The Israelis did. Deal with reality. They’re naming a city for Trump. They’ve made a memorial Trump coin.

    If you really think Trump is loyal to Israel over the United States, please come out and say so … if you dare.

    Trump’s loyalty to the common people of America is zero. His loyalty to the Israelis is 100%. First, Trump is an imbecile…. everyone knew this before he got into politics , my wife knows it, my kid knows it. But, you want real evidence, I’ve got it ….

    Video LinkI don’t mean he is really a imbecile, but I mean that his intelligence is average at best. He is infantile, disinterested in anything but himself. He seems literally stupid.

    He is disinterested in foreign policy, and that is why he brought on the neocons who began the unending wars in the ME. He rhetoric is infantile and extremely dangerous … while US warships and missiles are heading to Iran https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/the-us-is-sending-another-warship-and-more-missiles-to-the-middle-east-amid-iran-tensions.html Trump tweets, for Christ’s sake …

    If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again!

    This is grade school level and nearly insane. The world has never seen anything like it.

    Trump’s loyalty to the US is zero. Trump is loyal to money, and the Trump money was made in Jew controlled New York real estate. The Jews own Trump – see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aEWBcdUg6k,
    Video Linkin the video substitute ‘Jews’ for ‘bankers’, and you have it.

    Trump is an unmitigated disaster and the world will be lucky to survive his presidency.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Saggy

    '...Trump is an unmitigated disaster and the world will be lucky to survive his presidency.'

    Well...yeah. But ya gotta consider what the alternative was.

    , @Escher
    @Saggy

    I don't know. He seems to be slowly finding his way, arm-twisting Mexico and trying to do the same with China to do his bidding.

  • Some may remember that in 2005 a major media controversy engulfed Harvard President Larry Summers over his remarks at an academic conference. Casually speaking off-the-record at the private gathering, Summers had gingerly raised the hypothetical possibility that on average men might be a bit better at mathematics than women, perhaps partially explaining the far larger...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Anonymouse
    Jews are just like everybody else only more so. I know this for a fact since I am one and my father was actually a member of the CPUSA in the late thirties. He was a working man who ran away to sea at 17 and helped to organize the East coast seaman's union at that time. His communist viewpoint was purely that of an idealist who believed that the rich exploited the working man. A working stiff all his life he was killed in an accident on a Chesapeake & Ohio tugboat. According to the jew haters on this list, a jew is in his nature an enemy to everyone else. Many American and English communist traitors were not jewish, including such worthies as Philby, Burgess, Anthony Blount, Hiss, Harry Hopkins, and others named in the above article. Were they crypto-Jews? I submit that idealism and ignorance of how societies function combined with resentment of the rich were the driving forces behind convinced communists, not the fact that a great number of them were jews. That theory seems more logical than the alternative theory that the jew is an enemy to everyone else because it explains the phenomenon in terms of rational motivations rather than on unquestioned folk hatred theories.

    Replies: @Emblematic, @Jack, @Digital Samizdat, @Whitewolf, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Craig Nelsen, @foolisholdman, @peterAUS, @Saggy, @James Forrestal, @ababush, @Emslander, @Ace

    That theory seems more logical than the alternative theory that the jew is an enemy to everyone else because it explains the phenomenon in terms of rational motivations rather than on unquestioned folk hatred theories.

    This video by Rabbi ben Porat explains the reasons why Hitler hated communism and the Jews and saw them as an enemy to western society ….


    Video Link

  • Adapted from the latest Radio Derb, available exclusively on VDARE.com George Orwell's dystopian novel 1984 famously contained the aphorism: “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” Apparently, he was right. It waxes stronger by the day. This is most particularly true in anything to do with race. The...
  • @jeff stryker
    @Rurik

    RURIK


    Why would Jews envy whites? I'm not Jewish myself, but it would seem that generally Jews have a high median IQ and are less likely to be poor than other whites.

    What would the source of their jealousy be? Looks? Yeah I guess that could be possible.

    Replies: @Rurik

    Why would Jews envy whites?

    [MORE]

    ad infinitum…

    Please put under a ‘More’ button if I’m taking too many liberties with the image posting option.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    @Rurik

    RURIK


    Deal with facts...

    The fact is that a great many rural whites are SO POOR that some (Not all by any means) Jews actually feel pity for them due to their poverty, like Sanders.

    Jews definitely don't envy the income of whites. I'm quite sure your average Jew in NYC or Miami would not wish to trade places with poor rural whites or the dwindling white urban underclass in terms of income.

    How many Jews want to move to the small towns of rural whites or post-industrial graveyards? If Jews admire a population center, they move there. Like Rome. Or Spain at one point.

    The life of your average Jew is pleasant. Nice suburb, police are polite and deferential, nice schools.

    You yourself have pointed out (And I can agree because of my own experiences as a lower middle class white) the experiences of many urban non-Jewish whites are not nearly as pleasant.

    As for inventions, I doubt Jews care and more than most whites care that Freud was a Jew or Einstein. How many whites are jealous of that?

    Replies: @Rurik, @Alden, @Hippopotamusdrome

  • The news broke (in England) back on May 26 that David Garrow, the Pulitzer Prize winning biographer of the late Martin Luther King Jr., had unearthed a cache of new documents, many supposedly under strict lock-and-key at least until 2027, detailing some horrific cases of sexual activity by King, as many as forty such incidents,...
  • Attacking someone for their sexual proclivities is really a low and despicable act. To do it 30 years after the fact is contemptible. Let the blacks have their hero, for Christ’s sake.

    The over the top ‘hatred’ of blacks is a defining characteristic of much of the ‘right’, and it guarantees the movement will always be on the fringe.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Saggy

    The blacks can have their hero and worship him as god all they wish. And they can train their boys to be like MLK in making at least a third of his closest advisors queer and in watching rape as a sport. But they and their financial backers are forcing us all to bow to that moral freak.

  • Some may remember that in 2005 a major media controversy engulfed Harvard President Larry Summers over his remarks at an academic conference. Casually speaking off-the-record at the private gathering, Summers had gingerly raised the hypothetical possibility that on average men might be a bit better at mathematics than women, perhaps partially explaining the far larger...
  • @Mefobills
    @Incitatus


    Is Wally a condiment that enhances the ‘all things lead to Jews’ theme?
     
    I'm an economic historian, and I actually look for Jewish good behavior. Unfortunately, whenever usury or unequal swaps occur, it is inevitable that there are Jewish hands in the pot. I wish it weren't so, but it is. When I find good Jewish behavior, I am in awe of the effort and moral integrity it took to swim against the tribe tide.

    The line of good and evil runs down the middle of every man, and they have to decide which side they are on.

    Replies: @anon, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    When I find good Jewish behavior, I am in awe of the effort and moral integrity it took to swim against the tribe tide.

    All goyim posting here are in awe of those traits in Mr. Unz, and certainly hopeful, maybe even trustingly so, that he will remain an admirable exception among the group who has so disappointed and harmed us.

    Chapter 16, The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon

    https://www.ccel.org/g/gibbon/decline/volume1/chap16.htm

    Humanity is shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which (((they))) committed in the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus, and of Cyrene, where they dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives; and we are tempted to applaud the severe retaliation which was exercised by the arms of the legions against a race of fanatics whose dire and credulous superstition seemed to render them the implacable enemies not only of the Roman government, but of human kind.

    • Agree: Saggy
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    @Patricus

    Why did the SS cause so much destruction at Auschwicz? What was it covering up?

    Replies: @Patricus, @Wally, @Saggy

    The story is that when the Russians captured Majdanek there was massive propaganda about the gas chambers and crematoriums. The famous Himmler quote is ..

    In order to stop the epidemic, we were forced to cremate the bodies of the many people that died of the disease. That was the reason we had to build the crematoria, and now, because of this everybody wants to tighten the noose around our neck.

    And for that reason they dynamited the crematoriums at Birkenau (although I don’t how the possibility that the Russians dynamited them is excluded).

    The Birkenau crematoriums consisted of a central furnace room and two large partially underground wings for the storage of bodies. The hoax ‘gas chambers’ were supposedly in the wings. The Nazis (or whoever) dynamited the furnace rooms, not the crematorium wings, so the hoax ‘gas chambers’ were not dynamited. The roofs of the wings collapsed in most place. Not everywhere however, and here is a pic of G. Rudolf inspecting the inside of one of the wings ..There is no reason whatever to think that that the crematorium morgue room was a ‘gas chamber’ besides the lies of the Jews. We could get into that, Pressac’s book is the starting point, but this is not the place.

    Here is the fact, we have an unimpeachable eyewitness at Auschwitz, E. Wiesel, who spent a year at Auschwitz when the Nazis were supposedly killing 10,000 Jews per day in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. The book ‘Night’ recounts his experience, he doesn’t mention gas chambers. He says the Nazis killed the Jews by tossing them alive into burning pits, one for children, one for adults. He saw it with his own eyes. Believe it or not !

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Saggy

    If the gas chambers story is completely, or almost completely, a fabrication, it would be interesting to trace its rise from perhaps [a truly minimalist version] some SS man with a sick sense of humour saying to a prisoner who was not jumping to obey orders "do you want to be the first to test our new efficient Jew remover? You won't like the smell of cyanide gas...".

    Replies: @David Baker, @Bill Jones

    , @Druid
    @Saggy

    Good point about Weasel

    He is also a supreme liar

  • In the aftermath of a war, history cannot be written. The losing side has no one to speak for it. Historians on the winning side are constrained by years of war propaganda that demonized the enemy while obscuring the crimes of the righteous victors. People want to enjoy and feel good about their victory, not...
  • This was pure propaganda and an utter historical abortion. To even unpack this nonsense will require me to lower my IQ by about twenty points. However, let’s correct this absurd revision.

    For one, the proximate cause of WWII was not the Treaty of Versailles. Just as the proximate cause of Brexit was not European “bureaucracy.” The Nazi Party ideology of national socialism, militarism, and anti-Semitism was totalitarian and deeply embedded in the pre-WWI fabric of Vienna. One must understand that not long before the rise of Hitler, there was no such national entity known as “Germany.” There existed a common cultural sphere and linguistic symmetry; however, what is now Germany was then Prussia and multiple aligned principlaities, with a strong connection to Austria-Hungary.

    Furthermore, there is NO historical doubt that the main aggressor of WWI was Germany.

    Proof?

    Germany violated Belgium nuetrality and exploited the events of Serbian nationalism and Turksh instability for their own gain. The evidence is detailed in the Schlieffen Plan, which was the German design for a military invason of France, via Belgium — many years before the war. Furthermore, it was Prussian militarism, the embarressment of previous French defeat, desire for a homogeneous national identity, the economic needs of a country which missed out on the golden age of exploration, along with Kaiser Wilhelm’s deep longing for acceptance by European elites, including his grandmother, Queen Victoria of England, which led to his desire for a large European theatre and total war.

    England merely responded because of their treaty with the Allied powers and the protection of Belgium sovereignty. Trust me, the British would have preferred to focus overseas instead of maintaining European stability.

    Why does this matter?

    Because it indicates that the Treaty of Versailles was fair punishment for a needless and unjust German war. Moreover, the same culture of emerging German nationalism and ethnocentrism, Prussian militarism, coupled with their absurd idea to colonize Europe: predated the rise of Hitler.

    Once again: The Treaty of Versailles was not the proximate cause of WWII.

    Moving on, the rise of the Nazi Party brought both fear and intrigue by British and American elites. However, the idea that Winston Churchill started WWII is completely false. Adolf Hitler invaded Poland and the former Czechoslovakia. Furthermore, it was Britain and Neville Chamberlain that appeased and stated: “peace for our time.” Historians know now that Hitler was not trying to align with Britain: he was merely playing with England and had zero desire to obey international norms. Any peace treaty made with Germany would have been temporary, as Hitler viewed the Soviet Union as the main threat. However, this militarism would have eventually turned inward towards Europe once the Soviet’s were defeated.

    Why?

    Because national socialism, as an economic system, requires large-scale resource allocation for sustainability. Remember, Germany did not have the expansive overseas empire nor great access to the sea. Therefore, Germany expanded not merely for cultural purposes of unification, but because they, alone, did not have access to the necessary resources for economic feasibility. That is exactly why Herbert Backe, Reich Minister for Food and Agriculture, implemented the mass starvation policies for both Jews and ethnic Slavs. Backe was reallocating those resources to Germans during wartime. England, ever since the late 19th century, had practiced an economic system predicated on Adam Smith — not national socialism. Therefore, they understood that, in essence, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi’s were literally colonizing Europe.

    The British knew exactly what colonization looked like.

    Germany presented a unique economic, cultural, and military threat to Europe, England, and America. Any person who believes otherwise is a neanderthal.

    Winston Churchill was just smart enough to understand the truth. Adolf Hitler was only going to grow in strenghth, and Britain had their best shot to destory his momentum with a two-front war and deal with the devil.

    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Fox
    @Colin Smith

    Wow. You certainly don't deviate from what all the good people say and are required to opine if they want to advance in this post-war world.

    Replies: @Colin Smith

  • A Second World War Navy radioman turned journalist, Robert Stinnett was in the National Archives in Belmont, California, researching a campaign-year picture book on George Bush's South Pacific wartime navy career in aerial reconnaissance -- George Bush: His World War II Years (Washington, D.C., Brassey's, 1992) -- and encountered unindexed duplicate copies of Pearl Harbor...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    I came across ‘Days of Deceit’ on another forum a while back and found a rebuttal …

    A Deceitful Book: Robert B. Stinnett’s book “Day of Deceit” By Rear Admiral Richard E. Young, USN (Ret)

    which convinced me that Stinnett’s book should be viewed skeptically. Now, looking for the paper (about 20 pages as I recall) it has disappeared from the net, that is there are a number of links, but none are active. I did find this quote from the paper ….

    Long overdue is a close examination of Stinnett’s research and voluminous documentation he himself asserts prove his allegations. When one does, it becomes painfully obvious that the extensive research Stinnett did ends up proving just the opposite of what Stinnett was striving so desperately to prove: Roosevelt did not know of the impending attack on Pearl Harbor; he did not deliberately provoke it. And Stinnett himself has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt through his own painstaking research.

    Thus, I believe that anyone who wants to claim that FDR had foreknowledge of the attack has the obligation to cite and provide references to the actual evidence, not Stinnett’s report of the evidence.

  • Voters looking ahead to 2020 are being bombarded with soundbites from the twenty plus Democratic would-be candidates. That Joe Biden is apparently leading the pack according to opinion polls should come as no surprise as he stands for nothing apart from being the Establishment favorite who will tirelessly work to support the status quo. The...
  • @Incitatus
    @Carolyn Yeager


    CY: “Now you want to bring in the Morgenthau Plan. A Plan … that didn’t happen. But-but, what if it had? And the Kaufman book … another plan that didn’t happen, dreamed up by one man.”

    KH: “A plan that almost did happen and is illustrative of what the Jews would have done had they the means and opportunity. They had the motive. Had a prominent Brit wrote such a genocidal plan for the Germans you would be taking a much different tack and screaming it and slobbering from the rooftops instead of being so dismissive.”

    CY: “…the British treated the Germans worse than did the Jews. Do you think the British weren’t okay with the Morgenthau Plan, too. We know it was only the Soviet threat that changed their minds.”
     
    Haven’t you both overlooked the Führer’s Nerobefehl? No need for a Morgenthau Plan. Mr. Big himself ordered same 19 Mar 1945.

    And don’t forget Nazi compassion for Warsaw:

    “The city [Warsaw] must completely disappear from the surface of the earth and serve only as a transport station for the Wehrmacht. No stone can remain standing. Every building must be razed to its foundation.”
    -Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler 17 Oct 1944 staff conference
     
    Up to 200,000 Polish civilians were killed, 700,000 expelled as the city was systematically leveled by Jan ’45. 10,455 buildings; 923 historical monuments (94%); 25 churches; 14 libraries (including the National Library); 81 primary schools, 64 high schools, the University of Warsaw, Warsaw University of Technology, etc. Captain Klochkov recorded 17 Jan 1945:

    “We saw the destruction of Warsaw when we entered its empty streets…Nothing was left but ruins and ashes covered by snow. Badly starved and exhausted residents were making their way home.” [Antony Beevor ‘The Fall of Berlin1945’ p.22].
     
    85% of Warsaw was destroyed. 162,000 Poles remained: 12% of pre-war population [1,310,000].

    But for General Dietrich von Choltitz, Paris would have suffered the same fate August 1944.

    Morgenthau? Hitler had far deeper reserves of messianic spite. Turned, in the end, against Germans:

    “If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed.”
    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer, March 1945
     

    Replies: @Carolyn Yeager, @Art, @James Forrestal

    But for General Dietrich von Choltitz, Paris would have suffered the same fate August 1944.

    “B-b-but muh Paris!!!” bleats the ignorant, hate-filled hasbarat.

    Paris after da ebil not-sees invaded:

    Dresden after the good guys attacked:

    Not to mention that it wasn’t only enemy cities that were bombed — the Allied bombing campaign against France killed at least 70,000 civilians.

    Paris, you said?

    http://ww2today.com/21-april-1944-heavy-civilian-casualties-as-the-allies-bomb-paris

    Loyal Americans do not share your mindless lust for wars for the benefit of Israel/ international jewry that seems to consume ignorant, hate-filled hasbarats such as yourself. America First. As Tulsi Gabbard said above:

    “How does a war with Iran serve the best interest of the American people of the United States? And the fact is it does not,” Gabbard said. “It better serves the interest of people like [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Bibi Netanyahu and Saudi Arabia who are trying to push us into this war with Iran.”

    Israeli interests are not American interests, no matter how many long-discredited semitic canards you spew in a vain attempt to disguise that simple, self-evident fact.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @Incitatus
    @James Forrestal


    ‘But for General Dietrich von Choltitz, Paris would have suffered the same fate [as Warsaw] August 1944.'
    “B-b-but muh Paris!!!” bleats the ignorant, hate-filled hasbarat.”
    “Paris after da ebil not-sees invaded:”
     
    Please repost intelligibly. Happy then to respond.

    “Dresden after the good guys attacked”
     
    Terrible indeed. Hamburg ’43 (Operation Gomorrah) was by most accounts worse. Almost (according to German reports) produced civil insurrection. Certainly put club-foot Joe Göbbels on the map with his ‘total war’ speech. Yes indeed. Fight to the last man (I’ll be in the bunker looking after Magda and the kids).

    Where’s your picture of Warsaw Jan 1945? Suppose there’s not much left to see. Why did Hitler level Warsaw? Took three months, resources that could have defended the Reich. Why did he order Paris destroyed? Give us a hint.

    Great brain trust. Great leaders. Least of their concern? Ordinary Germans.

    “the Allied bombing campaign against France killed at least 70,000 civilians”
     
    • 90,000 French soldiers were killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940;
    • Two million French soldiers were taken POW in 1940, 1.5 million held captive [hostages] until 1945;
    • 350,000+ French civilians died 1940-4;
    • 650,000 French civilians were forced to work in Germany in the Service du Travail Obligatoire [deaths unknown];
    • German rationing limited the French to 1180 calories/day [Germans got 2700-4650 calories/day];
    • 80% French produce/foodstuffs were exported to Germany;
    • Germany charged France 400 million francs/day [146 billion francs/year] for occupation. Six times the actual cost, a sum sufficient to maintain a modern army of 18 million men;
    • Germany seized 154 billion francs in French expropriations [commodities, supplies, military equipment, rolling stock, etc] in 1940.

    Monuments to Nazis in France? Don’t think so.

    “Loyal Americans do not share your mindless lust for wars for the benefit of Israel/ international jew…Israeli interests are not American interests, no matter how many long-discredited semitic canards you spew in a vain attempt to disguise that simple, self-evident fact."
     
    Kindly quote my “mindless lust for wars for the benefit of Israel/ international jew”.

    Take your time.

    Meanwhile, free advice. Avoid rooves and high places.

    No need to thank me.

    Replies: @James Forrestal, @James Forrestal

  • A Second World War Navy radioman turned journalist, Robert Stinnett was in the National Archives in Belmont, California, researching a campaign-year picture book on George Bush's South Pacific wartime navy career in aerial reconnaissance -- George Bush: His World War II Years (Washington, D.C., Brassey's, 1992) -- and encountered unindexed duplicate copies of Pearl Harbor...
  • @Haxo Angmark
    Stinnet, while a good read with some significant discoveries, overclaimed re US crack of JN-25B. Looks to me like US codebreakers had c. 5%-10% of the 5-digit groups deciphered, and that's not enough to make much of most intercepts. But sombody else did. Right now I'm leafing through all 6 volumes of the Brit Official History of their own WW2 intel/cointel ops. And you know what? It's all about ETO and Med/N. Africa...zippo re Far East Intel. Not one chapter, not one sentence, not one word. And this silence speaks louder than words: something very big is being concealed, and that could only be a substantial crack of the Jap Naval code. Fortunately (Brits have said they'll de-classify everything re Brit Far East Intel in "2042" or "2060"...a likely story) we have firsthand accounts re this break in Rusbridger and Nave, Betrayal at Pearl Harbor (NY, 1991) and Peter Shepherd, Three Days to Pearl (Annapolis, 2000). So by 26 November, 1941, Churchill knew all about the upcoming Jap attack on Pearl Harbor and, beset with nothing but bad news from the Eastern Front and from North Africa/Med (plus evidence that Hull and Roosevelt via the modus vivendi proposal, were suddenly going squishy on the provoke Japan policy), decided to contact FDR directly. He telegrammed FDR 3 times during the early AM of that day and got no response...'cause Roosevelt was still asleep. Finally, desperate, he went to the trans-Atlantic radiotelephone room @ 10 Downing, picked up the scrambler phone, and called FDR @ 8:35 AM (DC time)...the two allied warmongers then decided how to play the upcoming attack so as to get a war declaration out of a 'til-now reluctant Congress. How we do we know this? The Germans had an RT intercept/de-scramble op on the Dutch coast and, from September onward, were picking up the Churchill-FDR conversations: cf. Richard Montpelier, "...a little-known agency was was tapping the FDR-Churchill 'hot line'", WWII Magazine, III/1, May 1988, pp. 12-17; Gregory Douglas, Gestapo Chief - The 1948 OSS Interrogation of Heinrich Mueller, vol. I (San Jose, 1995), pp. 42-55; and Christo's Military and Intelligence Corner @ http://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com/2012/02/intercepted-conversations-bell-labs-3.html. Incidentally, the preliminary Warning Order re getting the 2 carrier battle groups out of Pearl Harbor on (plausible deniability-providing) "air reinforcement missions" to Wake and Midway went from Adm. Stark in DC to Adm. Kimmel at Pearl Harbor precisely 12 hours later.

    Replies: @Saggy

    How we do we know this?

    The link does not confirm it. Can you be specific?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    @Saggy

    that's right. The link is re the German RT-intercept station and its operative technology. To get the rest (in full context), you will have to spring for all 3 volumes of Gestapo Chief....available @ Amazon the last time I looked. That said, there's some interesting Court Historian attacks on the 26 November intercept out and around the 'net. My favorite is by (((John Lukacs)) - a standard Churchillian buttlicker - "The Churchill-Roosevelt Forgeries" @ http://americanheritage.com/churchill-roosevelt-forgeries. Other than the usual non-sequiters & insults - "Revisionists...fascists...liars....Nazis!" - (((Lukacs))) has one substantial argument. Apparently there was a a female monitor of the trans-Atlantic FDR-WC trans-Atlantic RT calls (Lukacs refuses to name her, so let's call her Miss Prunella Blimp) who had the power to hit a cut switch whenever "sensitive" topics were broached. Now that's interesting: Miss Prunella Blimp, grrrrl secretary, breaking in on the PM of the British Empire and the President of the United States and telling them what they could and could not say to each other. So Haxo crawled around cyberspace for awhile and found this: "Listening in on Churchill" @ @ http://bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2008/09/01/ruth_ive_feature.shtml. Prunella's real name turns out to be Ruth Ive and, whatever and how successful/unsuccessful her interruptions were, they began sometime in 1942...months after the 26 November intercept. Essentially, the reason "we can't learn anything from History", is that 99% of it is written by the Victors' Court Historians...well-paid establishment sleazebags and apologists like Lukacs, Prange, Steven Ambrose, Beschloss, and all the rest.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Wizard of Oz

  • By Eve Mykytyn Dr. Ali was dismissed from his job at the University of Essex for alleged anti Semitism. The charges stemmed from his opposition to a new campus society, a branch of the Zionist organization, the Union of Jewish Students (UJS) and from four of the many posts Dr Ali has made to Facebook...
  • @richellieu
    "Talmudic throwbacks."
    I think that qualifies as anti-semitic. But carry on. Show more of your cards.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Saggy, @anon

    Of course it’s anti-semitic. Given the Jews’ opinion of the goyim, as expressed by the Chief Rabbi of Israelany goyim in his/her right mind will be anti-semitic.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    @Saggy

    He is not the Chief Rabbi of Israel, he is the Chief Rabbi of one of the Sephardim hassidic sects, he is a moron and an idiot and everyone in Israel and Jews in general denounce him.
    It is like saying David Duke speaks for all white Christians or Louis Farrakhan speaks for all black people.
    Why do people on this site show memes like this to represent a philosophy the product of a lazy soft mind, that cannot google and investigate the negative reaction this guy got.
    Ah the internet the last place for scoundrels

    Replies: @anon, @Fran Taubman, @Saggy

    , @mark taha
    @Saggy

    Anyone in his right mind will ignore comments like that.

  • A Second World War Navy radioman turned journalist, Robert Stinnett was in the National Archives in Belmont, California, researching a campaign-year picture book on George Bush's South Pacific wartime navy career in aerial reconnaissance -- George Bush: His World War II Years (Washington, D.C., Brassey's, 1992) -- and encountered unindexed duplicate copies of Pearl Harbor...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Haxo Angmark
    @Saggy

    that's right. The link is re the German RT-intercept station and its operative technology. To get the rest (in full context), you will have to spring for all 3 volumes of Gestapo Chief....available @ Amazon the last time I looked. That said, there's some interesting Court Historian attacks on the 26 November intercept out and around the 'net. My favorite is by (((John Lukacs)) - a standard Churchillian buttlicker - "The Churchill-Roosevelt Forgeries" @ http://americanheritage.com/churchill-roosevelt-forgeries. Other than the usual non-sequiters & insults - "Revisionists...fascists...liars....Nazis!" - (((Lukacs))) has one substantial argument. Apparently there was a a female monitor of the trans-Atlantic FDR-WC trans-Atlantic RT calls (Lukacs refuses to name her, so let's call her Miss Prunella Blimp) who had the power to hit a cut switch whenever "sensitive" topics were broached. Now that's interesting: Miss Prunella Blimp, grrrrl secretary, breaking in on the PM of the British Empire and the President of the United States and telling them what they could and could not say to each other. So Haxo crawled around cyberspace for awhile and found this: "Listening in on Churchill" @ @ http://bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2008/09/01/ruth_ive_feature.shtml. Prunella's real name turns out to be Ruth Ive and, whatever and how successful/unsuccessful her interruptions were, they began sometime in 1942...months after the 26 November intercept. Essentially, the reason "we can't learn anything from History", is that 99% of it is written by the Victors' Court Historians...well-paid establishment sleazebags and apologists like Lukacs, Prange, Steven Ambrose, Beschloss, and all the rest.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Wizard of Oz

    all 3 volumes of Gestapo Chief

    This is a link to the text of parts 1 and 2 – https://archive.org/stream/DouglasGregoryGestapoChief/Douglas_Gregory_-_Gestapo-Chief_djvu.txt

    and we read in the intro …..

    his is a work, extracted from thousands of pages of secret fdes, that will jolt the complaisant in every chapter. One section deals with highly classified German intercepts of private trans-Atlantic telephone conversations between Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. Of these, the most shocking is one dealing with Pearl Harbor.

    Yet I can find anything about Pearl Harbor in parts 1 & 2 using the search function.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    @Saggy

    I didn't tell you to dig up some nonsense on the 'net.

    I told you to buy the books. Like 70,000 other truth-seekers have.

  • By Eve Mykytyn Dr. Ali was dismissed from his job at the University of Essex for alleged anti Semitism. The charges stemmed from his opposition to a new campus society, a branch of the Zionist organization, the Union of Jewish Students (UJS) and from four of the many posts Dr Ali has made to Facebook...
  • @Fran Taubman
    @Saggy

    He is not the Chief Rabbi of Israel, he is the Chief Rabbi of one of the Sephardim hassidic sects, he is a moron and an idiot and everyone in Israel and Jews in general denounce him.
    It is like saying David Duke speaks for all white Christians or Louis Farrakhan speaks for all black people.
    Why do people on this site show memes like this to represent a philosophy the product of a lazy soft mind, that cannot google and investigate the negative reaction this guy got.
    Ah the internet the last place for scoundrels

    Replies: @anon, @Fran Taubman, @Saggy

    wiki

    Ovadia Yosef (Hebrew: עובדיה יוסף Ovadya Yosef, Arabic: عبد الله يوسف‎, romanized: Abdullah Yusuf; [2] September 24, 1920 – October 7, 2013)[3] was an Iraqi-born Talmudic scholar, a posek, the Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel from 1973 to 1983, and the founder and long-time spiritual leader of Israel’s ultra-Orthodox Shas party.[4][5]

    Every Jew knows that the Yosef quote is an accurate representation of the Jews’ opinion of the goyim. But it goes beyond that ….. suppose a Jewish man rapes a gentile woman. It’s a capital offense. But the woman, or girl if she is above the age of 3, is the one to be executed.

    (Mishah Torah – Sefer Kedushah – Issurei Biah – Chapter Twelve)

    10

    If, by contrast, a Jewish male enters into relations with a gentile woman, when he does so intentionally, she should be executed.23 She is executed because she caused a Jew to be involved in an unseemly transgression, as [is the law with regard to] an animal.24 [This applies regardless of] whether the gentile women was a minor of three years of age,25 or an adult, whether she was single or married. And it applies even if [the Jew] was a minor of nine years old, [she is executed].26

    This [punishment] is explicitly mentioned in the Torah, as [Numbers 31:16-17] states: Behold they were [involved] with the children of Israel according to the advice of Balaamו.27 Execute any woman fit to know a man through lying with a male.

    Judaism is truly an evil and degenerate religion.

    • Agree: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    @Saggy

    Saggy, you are doing good work exposing Fran's lies!

    You may already know that she admitted she is from Chabad, the largest and most malevolent sect of Jews. (her comment #337 https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/ )

    Even when confronted with a "Kill even the best of Gentiles" screenshot from Chabad's website (below), she feigns innocence—"I never heard that taught." She is also fond of quoting the Aish rabbi's dissembling that the genocidal precepts of the "Torah" are long-forgotten "Bronze Age" vestiges—even when faced with verbatim quotes from contemporary rabbis and the Israeli press, e.g., the Torat Ha'amelch.

    Most amusingly, she claims she walked from Chabad to the neighboring Archdiocese of Long Island to enlist their help in pulling down http://judaism.is . (her comment #92 https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-biblical-celebrities-and-jewish-symbolism/ )

    http://judaism.is/images/fotoflexer%20kill%20gentiles%20archived%20big.jpg

    Replies: @Miggle

    , @anon
    @Saggy

    "She is executed because she caused a Jew to be involved in an unseemly transgression, as [is the law with regard to] an animal.24 [This applies regardless of] whether the gentile women was a minor of three years of age,25 or an adult, whether she was single or married. "

    Those were the old religious stuff . Secular peace loving pro feminist pro LGBT and pro metoo movement Zionist don't believe this .

    At least that's what they say to the American on American TV " don't force us to kill your children and women " while mounting unprovoked attack on Palestinian.



    Sick people to the core . Despicable rat of e sewer . Talmud has a secular cover .

  • Several weeks ago I participated in a discussion of my work with Kevin MacDonald for TOQLive, and in the days prior to that I had a look at my past articles in the TOO author’s archive. It came as something of a surprise to see that there are now almost two hundred essays, blog posts,...
  • TKK says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Jooz again. Nignogs & towel camel f**kers are, along with zipheads & subcontinental Gypsies (in a different manner, of course) destroying white culture- thanks to white Euro-American greed, stupidity, decadence & loss of life compass- and Unz publishes in installments nanoanalyses on nosey yid subversives.

    Replies: @TKK

    Exactly.

    When I come to the site, I think: there can’t be another article on Jews today.

    And most days- it’s the obsessive focus. It’s a huge world out there with complex and fascinating issues to parse.

    It says much more about the obsessives than it does Jews.

    A direct question to the Pearl Clutchers:

    Do you have one REAL WORLD incident where a Jewish person actively stopped you from pursuing your dreams?

    Not your keyboard tough talk delusions- a bricks and mortar actual incident where a Jew harmed you and yours?

    If they had a shred of honesty- crickets.

    It’s boring. It’s a red herring. It’s intellectually lazy.

    And that Ron Unz would publish this unreadable humble brag “Why I Write” by a writer –
    whose only ability to get published is to manically fan flames of Jew boogie man circle jerk is prima facie evidence that all Jews are not that clever.

    • Troll: Saggy, Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Cowboy
    @TKK


    Do you have one REAL WORLD incident where a Jewish person actively stopped you from pursuing your dreams?
     
    I'll take a stab at that. Lois Lerner

    Lerner joined Internal Revenue Service in 2001, as Director of Rulings and Agreements in the Exempt Organizations function of TEGE.[7]

    In January 2006, she was appointed Director Exempt Organizations. In that capacity, Lerner led an organization of 900 IRS tax law enforcement officials responsible for a broad range of compliance activities, including examining the operational and financial activities of exempt organizations, processing applications for tax exemption, providing direction through private letter rulings and technical guidance, and providing customer education and outreach to the exempt community.
     
    The sister of Lois Lerner happens to be Barbara Lerner Spectre, famous for predicting that Europe will either become multicultural or it will cease to exist.

    For 12 critical years until after the "reelection" of Obama, Lerner was director of "Tax Exempt Organizations". In this position she allowed every single Jewish supremacist organization like AIPAC, ADL, SPLC, Bnai Brith to maintain their tax exempt status without audit or even question, during a period of their constant expanding meddling in politics and international affairs. This alone would qualify her for having stopped me from "pursuing my dreams", but it gets worse.

    During this period Lerner was also conspiring, through an illegal and secret gmail account named after her dog, with all her tribal cronies like Koskinen and Shulman who were running the IRS. They were all conspiring to "cut off the oxygen flow" to Ron Paul, who depended totally on small grassroots organizations for fund raising. Many of these organizations belonged to the Tea Party, and the IRS illegally intervened in the elections and swung them twice for Barack Obama. She even audited these organization and extracted lists of members, gun owners, and even their prayers. This also would be reason to state that Lois Lerner the jewess stopped me from "pursuing my dreams", but it still gets worse.

    As a US Expat I was paying taxes in two countries, my country of residence and the US. Lois Lerner was a big part of the cabal that targeted Expats for an IRS fleecing that is still going on today. Lerner was guilty of Fatca, FBAR, OVDI, TDI, and other crimes against expats. As a result of her tribal duplicity I was forced to renounce US slavery and now live in exile.

    Replies: @TKK, @Titus

    , @Sam J.
    @TKK

    "...Do you have one REAL WORLD incident where a Jewish person actively stopped you from pursuing your dreams?..."

    Easy. I've lost tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars in wages due to wage competition from the influx of aliens and immigrants pushed by the Jews.

    , @Former Jew
    @TKK

    Why don't you ask any Palestinian this question? Or any of the people who have been in prison because of the Holocaust laws?

    , @ThreeCranes
    @TKK


    "Do you have one REAL WORLD incident where a Jewish person actively stopped you from pursuing your dreams?"
     
    Good argument, but it's misleading because cause and effect are often diffuse and cannot be isolated.

    Just yesterday someone brought up the disappearance of the American Ash tree due to an infestation of insects brought to this continent on products imported from abroad. We could also look at the infestation of the Wabash river by Asian Carp, the Zebra mussel and alewives in the Great Lakes and so on.

    Now, these infestations are the product of unlimited global trade and global trade, as we all know, is a pet project of Jewish economists such as Krugman. Now, Krugman is a typical alienated, myopic, ghetto-dwelling Jew who has learned to apply a mathematic formula to a set of data and then make (usually incorrect) predictions. The problem is that his theories are not comprehensive enough. They doesn't take into consideration all the variables. Things like the devastation of the Ash or the ruination of the Wabash River or the loss to commercial and recreational fishing on the Great Lakes are not part of his calculations even though all these had a significant impact on a local ecosystem as well as a deleterious ripple effect on local economies. E.g. family resorts in upper Michigan were bankrupted because there were no fish for fisherman to bother to come up from Chicago to catch.

    But Paul is a city dweller. These are beyond his ken. I'm sure that, if confronted with these he would respond, "Well, Ash bats are a throwback. The global economy will respond. We can make them out of aluminum or plastic." or words to that effect. And as for the people who loved walking in forests graced by stately Ash trees or who loved working with its creamy, white wood, well, that's just tough luck for them. They are displaceable and replaceable. If local economies are hurt, too bad. Get used to it. Besides, those variables are not easliy assigned a mathematic value, so we just omit them.

    You see how it works? Anything that runs counter to his agenda, to the paycheck he gets for formulating bogus theories that prop up globalism, he simply dismisses with a backwards wave of his effeminate hand. As a Jew he could care less what happens to the people of the rural Midwest because in the eyes of a globalist, labor is fungible.

    What a coincidence, huh? That his intellectual views on labor and trade just happen to disadvantage the very people whom big-city, east-coast Jewish intellectuals revile.

  • Someone should tell Joyce and MacDonald, and E. Michael Jones, that the ‘holocaust’ is a massive hoax. That’s the subject that should be front and center of every discussion of the Jews.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @Saggy

    Exactly.

    Until those like Joyce, MacDonald, & Giraldi (who do know that the "holocaust" is an impossible, but heretofore effective scam for cash & power) stop pulling their punches, absolutely nothing will change.

    Everything else we read here does have some effect on creating a general awakening, but without a frontal assault on the all enabling & fake '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' we're just wasting our time. And that is certainly what the Usual Enemies of Free Speech want.

    Regards.

  • Adapted from the latest Radio Derb, available exclusively on VDARE.com Cover story in last Sunday's Long Island Newsday: in Trump Era, LI Immigrants Cope With Tougher ICE Actions, "Climate Of Fear", June 7, 2019, by Will Van Sant [Email him] and Víctor Manuel Ramos. [Email him] That headline raised my hackles right away. I am...
  • So Newsday, like much of the legacy print media, still holds on to some old-fashioned notions about fair play and letting dissenting voices be heard,

    Idiocy. No legacy print media will print one true word about the holohoax.

    There has never been anything resembling ‘free speech’ in the US media, academia, or entertainment. It is an illusion.

  • Done with my article on walking, I rewarded myself by heading to the local Popeyes. Yes, there’s one in District 6, within walking distance of my mosquito netting. Though any Saigon lunch beyond two bucks will cause me infinite, enduring pain, florid self-recrimination and post-traumatic stress disorder, I manned up and handed the young, angelic...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Linh Dinh
    @AaronB

    Hi all,

    In Plastic Recycling and Jousting Jews, I clearly stated that my criticism of Israel and Jewish power preceded the unraveling of my literary career, but "I have no regrets, for one must do what’s right."

    Aaron turned it around to say that my failures caused my "Jew hatred," "Its s huge temptation, one that I’ve succumbed to, to blame others, foreigners, outsiders, etc, for our own failures and defeats."

    In "Mashed Potato and Another War for Israel," I object to Jewish instigated genocides, but Aaron, again, turns it around to claim that "Linh Dinh can despise Jews and wish to eradicate all of them as much as he likes."

    This is why I indentify Jews as "Masters of inversion." Aaron is a perfect example.

    I've stated repeatedly that I'm not against Jews as an ethnicity, only the Jewish ideology.

    Again, "The Nazis’ racism was but a mirror and fleeting offshoot of Jewish racial supremacy, which endures to manipulate, fleece and wreak havoc on humanity, with Jews themselves among its victims, so Jews, too, must be delivered from this sick mindset. No more chosen people."

    Again, I'm against racial supremacy, the idea of a chosen people and genocide, and there is nothing unnatural or hateful about these objections. I expect all sane people, including those born Jewish, to share my stance. How can you not?


    Linh

    Replies: @Saggy, @Cowboy, @Al LIguori

    I’m a big fan of your articles, and I don’t think you need to respond to Jews like Aaron B. as most of the persons reading the comments are ‘Jew aware’, or just plain antisemitic*. Responding to his idiocy gives it more consideration than it deserves.

    However, regarding racial supremacy, I think whites are naturally racial supremacists because the modern world is by and large the product of the white mind. Science has made us almost gods and science is a product of the white races. So, why wouldn’t we think the white races are superior? It’s simply a matter of observation.

    Or, you could consider the alternative, the politically correct view, https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism

    Since the late 20th century the notion of biological race has been recognized as a cultural invention, entirely without scientific basis.

    But this is not only preposterous in itself, it is so preposterous that it can only be regarded as a form of mind control, of social manipulation, an attack on the superior races, which is what it is.

    *any rational non-Jew surely must be an antisemite for many reasons, see my website link.

    • Replies: @Biff
    @Saggy


    the modern world is by and large the product of the white mind.
     
    Not the modern world where I live.

    Replies: @Robert Dolan, @jeff stryker

  • @Jay Fink
    I'm just one individual Jew but I am very much against an Iranian war...more than anyone I know of any religion or ethnicity.

    Replies: @Iris, @Saggy

    I’m just one individual Jew but I am very much against an Iranian war…more than anyone I know of any religion or ethnicity

    That is meaningless hasbara unless you denounce the holohoax. If you do not denounce the holohoax you are part of the Jew problem.

  • @Iris
    @MartinAlaskan


    Jews bought land, often overpriced land, from its Muslim owners
     
    The occupation of Palestine was achieved by the means of ethnic cleansing and mass murder of civilian Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim.

    It was a war crime, and indeed a crime against humanity.
    Your alleged "American" clothing does not hide much of your real nature, Hasbara.

    List of the 418 Palestinian villages destroyed by the Zionists in 1948:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv54GVghCmk

    Replies: @MartinAlaskan

    I live in Brussels. Here it’s the Jewish children’s schools (there’s one a block away from my apartment) that have to have two soldiers armed with sub-machine guns there to protect Jewish children from murderous, local Muslim, attacks. It’s not the other way around, no Muslim schools need protecting.

    The Jews here in Brussels are quiet and mind their own business and, importantly, pull their own weight; local Jews pay far more in taxes that they ever take from the Belgian government. The local Muslims, on the other hand, use the welfare at a rate TEN TIMES greater than non-Muslims (1,000%), they also fill the prisons at that same, almost unbelievable 1,000% higher rate than non-Muslims. And now our local Muslims are committing 100% of the terrorist attacks, and tens of thousands of our local Muslims support ISIS while over 600 “Belgian” Muslims joined ISIS.

    I’ll side with the Jews over the Muslims every time because I have seen with my own eyes and for eight solid years what it’s like to live in a city that is 25% – 30% Muslim, I’ve see what they’ve done and how they gloat about doing it – it’s horrible. This city, Brussels, is ruined. And I can read almost every day in the news how rough it is to be Israel: a country surrounded by Muslim nations with populations that outnumber the Jews 100 to 1, nations whose citizens are taught from birth that all Muslim problems are caused by the Jews, and that all Jews must die for simply being Jews.

    I am not Jewish but I support them. Another plus about Israel/Jews is that they have always fought their own wars without expecting American soldiers to bleed for them and die for them like the thankless Muslims expected, and got, from us in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Robjil
    @MartinAlaskan

    Nine eleven was done by Israel and US. How is Israel a friend to the US and the world for doing that?

    The wars in the Middle East since the 1991 war on Iraq have all been for Israel. None have been good for the US.

    The US has been doing heavy lifting for Israel.

    Israel latest gimmick is for us to attack Iran.

    , @Colin Wright
    @MartinAlaskan

    '...I’ll side with the Jews over the Muslims every time because I have seen with my own eyes and for eight solid years what it’s like to live in a city that is 25% – 30% Muslim...'

    Now you know why so many Muslims were allowed in. Let's make that mental leap...

  • I don’t believe James Alex Fields Jr., 22, got justice from the U.S. court system, and I certainly don’t expect he will get mercy. [Man convicted of killing Heather Heyer in Charlottesville attack asks judge for 'mercy' by Alan Suderman, Associated Press/WJLA, June 22nd 2019] And I further believe that, to a considerable extent, this...
  • eah says:

    Any article that contributes to exposing the official lie about what happened at UTR, including the Fields incident, is helpful — but some are more helpful than others — also it’s a bit frustrating given the scope of the injustice because it is not clear where more blah blah will lead.

    I do think James Alex Fields Jr. is a neo-Nazi.

    What exactly is a “neo-Nazi”, and why do you think Fields is one?

    white Mayor Mike Signer

    He’s not “white”, he’s a Jew.

    Per the autopsy, Heyer suffered a broken leg — others struck by a vehicle that day also suffered leg and pelvic injuries — none of them suffered chest trauma, let alone chest trauma serious enough to be life-threatening; only Heyer did — Heyer’s mother said on video that her daughter died of a heart attack — why did she say that?; how did she know that? — it must be because she was told this by medical personnel (otherwise why say it?) — the specific cause of Heyer’s death wasn’t “blunt force trauma to the torso” — it was a lacerated aorta; people need to understand that — also, per the autopsy she suffered broken ribs.

    Putting all of this together, here is the most likely explanation for Heyer’s death: she was struck by a vehicle and suffered a fractured leg — due to the shock of this, she had a heart attack; her morbid obesity was clearly a contributing factor here — emergency medical personnel performed CPR, including chest compressions — to produce a detectable pulse in someone as obese as Heyer, chest compressions must be performed very forcefully — these forceful chest compressions fractured her ribs (this injury via CPR is not at all uncommon; do an internet search) — continued chest compressions displaced a fractured rib, which lacerated her aorta, causing her death.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @Bork
    @eah

    ".. her morbid obesity was clearly a contributing factor here"

    Her BMI was 66 if 330lbs/4'11" is correct. If you have 30 or over, you are obese. If you have 40 or over, you are morbidly obese. Heather was waaaay over the limit for morbidly obese. How could she even live with a body like that? What kind of society produces such people? This entire Fields case is a farce, a typical swarthy mystery meat caucasian american with a long history of mental illness panics and creep speed rams an extremely morbidly obese mystery meat american blimpette living on overtime who keels over and die, way past expected expiration date. I see no murder here.

    I have no doubt that Heather also had some kind of mental illness - probably borderline personality disorder. They tend to get extremely fat since the antipsychotics makes them hungry, and they are impulsive self centered must-feel-good people so they binge eat.

    , @Alden
    @eah

    Umm lacerated aorta; aorta is the biggest artery in the body. It comes directly out of the heart and goes down the chest and torso. Blood in the aorta is under very high pressure, like water coming out of a fire hose. Lacerate cut tear crush smash rupture.

    It wasn’t a heart attack.

    I’m an extreme White Nationalist. But I know what lacerate means and what the aorta is. We would have given to a legal defense fund had there been one.

    Replies: @eah

    , @KenH
    @eah


    white Mayor Mike Signer

    He’s not “white”, he’s a Jew.
     
    That's the demerit against an otherwise excellent article. But rule #1 is always protect a fellow Jew and the Jewish race and often times that means reclassifying a villain like Signer as a white goy.
  • Yesterday Zionist mouthpeace MP Margaret Hodge spoke on Newsnight about a “jazz musician who thought that Hitler had not gone far enough.” I wonder who this Jazz artist could be, certainly not me. Meanwhile, I have invited this Labour hardly MP to specify where exactly a jazz artist (either myself, John Coltrane, Duke Ellington etc.)...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    Hitler was right about the Jews. From MK …

    Before coming to Vienna his view of the Jews is benign,

    As I thought that they were persecuted on account of their Faith my aversion to hearing remarks against them grew almost into a feeling of abhorrence.

    However as he engages in political discussions with the Jews his opinion changes:

    [MORE]

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

    Gradually I began to hate them.

    In Vienna Hitler is employed as a common worker, and he encounters trade unions, Social Democrats, Jews, and Marxism:

    At midday some of my fellow workers used to adjourn to the nearest tavern, while the others remained on the building premises and there ate their midday meal, which in most cases was a very scanty one. These were married men. Their wives brought them the midday soup in dilapidated vessels. Towards the end of the week there was a gradual increase in the number of those who remained to eat their midday meal on the building premises. I understood the reason for this afterwards. They now talked politics.

    I drank my bottle of milk and ate my morsel of bread somewhere on the outskirts, while I circumspectly studied my environment or else fell to meditating on my own harsh lot. Yet I heard more than enough. And I often thought that some of what they said was meant for my ears, in the hope of bringing me to a decision. But all that I heard had the effect of arousing the strongest antagonism in me. Everything was disparaged – the nation, because it was held to be an invention of the ‘capitalist’ class (how often I had to listen to that phrase!); the Fatherland, because it was held to be an instrument in the hands of the bourgeoisie for the exploitation of’ the working masses; the authority of the law, because that was a means of holding down the proletariat; religion, as a means of doping the people, so as to exploit them afterwards; morality, as a badge of stupid and sheepish docility. There was nothing that they did not drag in the mud.

    ……

    Hitherto my acquaintance with the Social Democratic Party was only that of a mere spectator at some of their mass meetings. I had not the slightest idea of the social-democratic teaching or the mentality of its partisans. All of a sudden I was brought face to face with the products of their teaching and what they called their Weltanschhauung. In this way a few months sufficed for me to learn something which under other circumstances might have necessitated decades of study – namely, that under the cloak of social virtue and love of one’s neighbour a veritable pestilence was spreading abroad and that if this pestilence be not stamped out of the world without delay it may eventually succeed in exterminating the human race.

    Hitler identified the Jews with Marxism and the Marxist Social Democracy party. The above passages refer to a period before WW I, but were written after WW I and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

    Regarding the Bolshevik revolution in Russia

    Now begins the great last revolution. In gaining political power the Jew casts off the few cloaks that he still wears. The democratic people’s Jew becomes the blood-Jew and tyrant over peoples. In a few years he tries to exterminate the national intelligentsia and by robbing the peoples of their natural intellectual leadership makes them ripe for the slave’s lot of permanent subjugation.

    The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination

    Hitler also identified Jews with the international financiers. and wrote:

    As I listened to Gottfried Feder’s first lecture about the ‘breaking of interest slavery,’ I knew at once that this was a theoretical truth which would inevitably be of immense importance for the future of the German people. The sharp separation of stock exchange capital from the national economy offered the possibility of opposing the internationalization of the German economy without at the same time menacing the foundations of an independent national self-maintenance by a struggle against all capital. The development of Germany was much too clear in my eyes for me not to know that the hardest battle would have to be fought, not against hostile nations, but against international capital. In Feder’s lecture I sensed a powerful slogan for this coming struggle.

    And here again later developments proved how correct our sentiment of those days was. Today the know-it-alls among our bourgeois politicians no longer laugh at us: today even they, in so far as they are not conscious liars, see that international stock exchange capital was not only the greatest agitator for the War, but that especially, now that the fight is over, it spares no effort to turn the peace into a hell.

    The fight against international finance and loan capital became the most important point in the program of the German nation’s struggle for its economic independence and freedom.

    Probably the most well quote from MK is on the big lie:

    But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

    All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

    It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

    In this video Rabbi ben Porat summarizes Hitler’s views as expressed in Mein Kampf …


    Video Link

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    @Saggy


    Hitler was right about the Jews.
     
    Not quite.

    He was flippin damned right! Who among us cannot relate to the things he pointed out? This is probably the best post I've ever read anywhere, and thanks for reminding us of all that; I think it's time I reread MK.
    , @renfro
    @Saggy


    Before coming to Vienna his view of the Jews is benign,


    ''As I thought that they were persecuted on account of their Faith my aversion to hearing remarks against them grew almost into a feeling of abhorrence.''

    However as he engages in political discussions with the Jews his opinion changes:

     

    I can identify with that gradual change in one's view of the Jews.
    Before 2003 I don't remember ever thinking about Jews one way or another except as individuals of a certain religion....I was neither pro or con on Jews and had some sympathy based on all the holocaust movies but knew nothing about Israel.
    After we invaded Iraq I started my education on the ME at the British National Archives ....where I came across 'Zionism in the ME' and Israel which led me back to the US. As I researched I can honestly say I didn't want to believe what I was finding....that the US government and our politicians had been subverted by a Jewish Zionist Fifth Column for Israel and that our press deliberately misled the public about Israel.

    But that is the way the cookie crumbled on the facts and evidence.
    The Jews, some passively, some aggressively ,thru political bribery, threats, control of the press had subverted our nation.....with the help of their bought US politicians.

    When I finally had to accept what the US Jews and Israel had done I at first thought it could be stopped if enough of us confronted the politicians on the Jewish Lobby corruption and the Israel scheme.

    But it hasn't happened.....wont happen until the public cries 'Traitors, Traitors , Traitors!'....which is more far more deadly accusation to a politician's career than anti-Semite and the best description and 'public' reply to the Jewish organizations and their individual leaders.

  • I don’t believe James Alex Fields Jr., 22, got justice from the U.S. court system, and I certainly don’t expect he will get mercy. [Man convicted of killing Heather Heyer in Charlottesville attack asks judge for 'mercy' by Alan Suderman, Associated Press/WJLA, June 22nd 2019] And I further believe that, to a considerable extent, this...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @eah
    @Rogue

    Almost like a show trial.

    Yes, essentially -- it was largely political -- a real disgrace.

    People need to recognize the most troubling aspect of this:

    UTR was organized to show support for keeping the Robert E Lee statue in the park -- it was supposed to be a rally with speeches -- given recent history, it was clear the media and Establishment would rhetorically oppose the rally and call participants 'fascists' and 'neo-Nazis' -- fine, whatever.

    The fact the authorities did not respect the permit for the rally should be condemned but can also be understood.

    But when it came to the Fields incident and trial, a line was crossed -- the Establishment was unable and unwilling to put aside its prejudices when it came to the legal treatment of Fields -- due to their own bias, they were unable and unwilling to treat him fairly, even when his freedom was in the balance -- he was prosecuted maliciously the same way George Zimmerman was -- in the end, Zimmerman had better lawyers and a more reasonable jury.

    Replies: @Saggy

    he was prosecuted maliciously the same way George Zimmerman was — in the end, Zimmerman had better lawyers and a more reasonable jury.

    This is complete nonsense. Zimmerman was armed and stalked the victim who had done absolutely noting wrong. Zimmerman confronted the victim who had done absolutely nothing wrong. And you can hear the audio of a 9/11 call with the victim yelling ‘help … help….’ and then a gunshot. Direct evidence shows that the victim was shot while calling for help. Zimmerman should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder minimum. ‘Politics’ should not play a part in criminal trials.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @eah
    @Saggy

    Direct evidence shows that the victim was shot while calling for help.

    Actually, the 'direct evidence' showed Trayvon Martin was shot while sitting on top of Zimmerman, pounding the shit out of him -- after first jumping him.

    Your version here is total bullshit -- whether you like it or not, Zimmerman had a right to be outside that night, even to follow Martin if he wanted to -- Martin should not have attacked Zimmerman, who only defended himself.

    Unfortunately, idiots like you are a dime a dozen.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/George-Zimmerman-Injuries.jpg

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @Rogue
    @Saggy

    I think the jury made the right call with regard to Zimmerman.

    That is not to say that he was unquestionably innocent. The fact is, we simply don't know.

    Western jurisprudence is generally based on what can be be decided on a basis of reasonable doubt - specifically , beyond reasonable doubt.

    It is a mechanism for what can be best ascertained - not for crystal-ball sure knowledge.

    Therefore, I believe Zimmerman received the right verdict - even if in reality he is a scumbag.

    Not saying that he is - merely making a argument. He might have been 100% innocent.

    Hence the reasonable verdict.

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @Che Guava
    @Saggy

    I would suppose that 'Saggy' either refers to the way you wear your trousers (a very ugly style), or to a couple of other possibilities, one that you are as obscenely corpulent as Heyer was, the other ... well, doesn't need spelling out.

    I am shocked to hear that Robert Zimmerman was chasing a po' dindunuffin, and came away with injuries, Bob Dyllan may never be able to do anything again!

    Not that I don't see the fakeness and plagiarism of Robert Zimmerman.

    Having read most of the comments on this thread, many informative.

    To me, the most interesting thingin MSM reporting on this was the constant use of her 'fat girl angle shots' (a technical term on the English-language chans), and refusal to show the slobbishly obese reality. A real 'Man the Harpoons!'case.

    Free James Fields!

    The worst he should have got (I am not sure of the legal terms) was somethng like 'unintentional manslaughter while under severe threat', which I would guess is abt. 2 years, or less with parole.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @eah
    @Saggy

    Direct evidence shows that the victim was shot while calling for help.

    Actually, the 'direct evidence' showed Trayvon Martin was shot while sitting on top of Zimmerman, pounding the shit out of him -- after first jumping him.

    Your version here is total bullshit -- whether you like it or not, Zimmerman had a right to be outside that night, even to follow Martin if he wanted to -- Martin should not have attacked Zimmerman, who only defended himself.

    Unfortunately, idiots like you are a dime a dozen.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/George-Zimmerman-Injuries.jpg

    Replies: @Saggy

    the ‘direct evidence’ showed Trayvon Martin was shot while sitting on top of Zimmerman, pounding the shit out of him — after first jumping him.

    Like every idiot who argues that Zimmerman was not guilty you completely ignore the audio recording of the actual shooting, which establishes without a doubt that Zimmerman shot a defenseless victim who was yelling for help.

    I cite actual evidence and that makes me an idiot? What in hell is wrong with you? You are the idiot as you ignore the evidence.

    The photos of Zimmerman show that there was fight, that is all. And the fight followed Zimmerman, armed, confronting the victim who was walking home from the store, talking to a friend on his cell phone.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @fnn
    @Saggy

    Ya think wikipedia is part of the vast white supreemist conspiracy that rules murrica?:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin#Background_yells_for_help_in_9-1-1_calls


    In recordings of the 9-1-1 calls, yells for help are audible in the background. Zimmerman's family says it was Zimmerman yelling for help, Martin's family says it was Martin yelling for help, and independent audio analysts offer differing opinions as to who was yelling for help. During the trial, friends and family members of both Zimmerman and Martin testified as to who they thought the voice was, but expert testimony regarding voice identification was not allowed.[191]

    In an interview with prosecutors on March 19, Zimmerman's father identified the yells as George Zimmerman's, stating, "There is no doubt who is yelling for help. It is absolutely my son." Other relatives of Zimmerman, including his brother, concur and are equally adamant.[192] During a bond hearing on June 29, the 9-1-1 recording was played in court, and Zimmerman's father testified that "it was definitely George's" voice heard yelling for help in the recorded 9-1-1 call.[193]

    According to police reports, after listening to audio recordings of the 9-1-1 calls, Martin's father, Tracy Martin, told police investigators that it was not Trayvon Martin's voice yelling for help.[168] Martin has since told reporters he was uncertain at that time, but that when he heard an enhanced recording on March 16 he was convinced it was his son yelling for help. Investigators interviewed Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, who reviewed the 9-1-1 calls to police and identified the voice crying for help as her son.[194] Investigators also interviewed Martin's cousin who stated that without a doubt "on a stack of bibles" it was Martin yelling for help on the 9-1-1 tape.[195][26]

    Zimmerman's attorneys requested a Frye hearing regarding the admissibility of the testimony of the audio analysts, to determine if the methods used by them are generally accepted by the scientific community.[196][197] The judge said in her ruling that, "There is no evidence to establish that their scientific techniques have been tested and found reliable." Her ruling did not prevent the 9-1-1 calls from being played at trial.[198]
     

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @anarchyst
    @Saggy

    Trayvon was a thug who had burglarized houses in the past and was going on his "rounds" to pick new potential "targets". In fact, the Florida school district hid his criminal record past per 0'bama's "directive" that "people of color were singled out for "excessive punishment" for misbehavior.
    All one has to do is look at the way the "mainstream media" used a photo of a cherubic 12-year-old "Trayvon" rather than his more recent facebook "thug" picture holding guns and cash.
    George Zimmerman did humanity a favor by "taking out the trash"...

    , @eah
    @Saggy

    ...the audio recording of the actual shooting, which establishes without a doubt that Zimmerman shot a defenseless victim who was yelling for help.

    This is OT and so is my last comment on it.

    The call you refer to is probably the 911 call made by Jennifer Lauer -- during the trial, it was made clear it was impossible to reliably technically match the voices heard on her 911 call -- during a police interview with a witness present, Martin's father definitely said the voice crying for help did not sound like his son's (he changed his story at the trial, basically committing perjury by denying he ever said the voice did not sound like his son's).

    By far the most credible witness testimony was that of Jonathan Good -- his testimony made clear that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating him, and that the cry for help came from the person on the bottom -- all of the evidence was consistent with Martin being on top of Zimmerman when the gun was fired.

    If you believe anything else, it's because you want to -- yours is a 'hand's up don't shoot version', similar to Michael Brown; an execution -- considering all of the evidence, that is fucking absurd.

    Lastly: a jury heard all the evidence, including testimony, cross-examination, and re-cross-examination -- after all of that, they found Zimmerman not guilty on all counts (better is 'not proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt') -- of course people like you have no explanation for that.

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @David In TN
    @Saggy

    Zimmerman was the one yelling for help. I've heard the recording.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Genrick Yagoda
    @Saggy

    I'm guessing you must be that halfwit woman "ear-witness" who was on TV claiming that the hulking 6'3" Trayvon was the "little boy" who was screaming for help.

    Let's see, who is more likely to call for help? The guy who is pinned on the ground getting his head smashed into the pavement and face pummeled, or the guy who is sitting on top raining punches on the victim.

    Unz' commentators are usually a high quality bunch. Not sure how you managed to stumble here, other than by accident.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @fnn
    @Saggy

    Ya think wikipedia is part of the vast white supreemist conspiracy that rules murrica?:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin#Background_yells_for_help_in_9-1-1_calls


    In recordings of the 9-1-1 calls, yells for help are audible in the background. Zimmerman's family says it was Zimmerman yelling for help, Martin's family says it was Martin yelling for help, and independent audio analysts offer differing opinions as to who was yelling for help. During the trial, friends and family members of both Zimmerman and Martin testified as to who they thought the voice was, but expert testimony regarding voice identification was not allowed.[191]

    In an interview with prosecutors on March 19, Zimmerman's father identified the yells as George Zimmerman's, stating, "There is no doubt who is yelling for help. It is absolutely my son." Other relatives of Zimmerman, including his brother, concur and are equally adamant.[192] During a bond hearing on June 29, the 9-1-1 recording was played in court, and Zimmerman's father testified that "it was definitely George's" voice heard yelling for help in the recorded 9-1-1 call.[193]

    According to police reports, after listening to audio recordings of the 9-1-1 calls, Martin's father, Tracy Martin, told police investigators that it was not Trayvon Martin's voice yelling for help.[168] Martin has since told reporters he was uncertain at that time, but that when he heard an enhanced recording on March 16 he was convinced it was his son yelling for help. Investigators interviewed Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, who reviewed the 9-1-1 calls to police and identified the voice crying for help as her son.[194] Investigators also interviewed Martin's cousin who stated that without a doubt "on a stack of bibles" it was Martin yelling for help on the 9-1-1 tape.[195][26]

    Zimmerman's attorneys requested a Frye hearing regarding the admissibility of the testimony of the audio analysts, to determine if the methods used by them are generally accepted by the scientific community.[196][197] The judge said in her ruling that, "There is no evidence to establish that their scientific techniques have been tested and found reliable." Her ruling did not prevent the 9-1-1 calls from being played at trial.[198]
     

    Replies: @Saggy

    Sometimes you have to bypass wiki and use your own brain, so let’s give it a try ….. you hear on the tape a frantic …. help ……. help …. and then bang, a shot. Who was calling for help, the guy with the gun, or the guy the gun was pointed at?

    Take your time. Think it over.

  • @eah
    @Saggy

    ...the audio recording of the actual shooting, which establishes without a doubt that Zimmerman shot a defenseless victim who was yelling for help.

    This is OT and so is my last comment on it.

    The call you refer to is probably the 911 call made by Jennifer Lauer -- during the trial, it was made clear it was impossible to reliably technically match the voices heard on her 911 call -- during a police interview with a witness present, Martin's father definitely said the voice crying for help did not sound like his son's (he changed his story at the trial, basically committing perjury by denying he ever said the voice did not sound like his son's).

    By far the most credible witness testimony was that of Jonathan Good -- his testimony made clear that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating him, and that the cry for help came from the person on the bottom -- all of the evidence was consistent with Martin being on top of Zimmerman when the gun was fired.

    If you believe anything else, it's because you want to -- yours is a 'hand's up don't shoot version', similar to Michael Brown; an execution -- considering all of the evidence, that is fucking absurd.

    Lastly: a jury heard all the evidence, including testimony, cross-examination, and re-cross-examination -- after all of that, they found Zimmerman not guilty on all counts (better is 'not proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt') -- of course people like you have no explanation for that.

    Replies: @Saggy

    If you believe anything else, it’s because you want to

    Complete idiocy. We hear a tape …. help ….. help …… bang, a shot, and you say that the person pointing the gun was the one yelling for help. Idiot ! Not only you, but every idiot ‘white nationalist’.

    And, why in the hell would I ‘want to believe it’? I’m a white nationalist, but not an idiot.

    • Replies: @eah
    @Saggy

    Even though I said I would not comment again...

    Dude, why the hell do you think I care that you are a WN? -- what possible relevance does that have here? -- do you imagine it increases your credibility? -- I mean what the fuck.

    Zimmerman was yelling for help (the weight of the evidence strongly indicates this) because Martin was on top of him, beating him -- this was before he was able to grab and use his weapon -- Zimmerman testified he was being beaten and was afraid; that he cried for help and reached for his weapon at the same time Martin pummeled him, and shot Martin while he was on top of him -- forensic evidence showed Martin was shot from very close range (a couple of inches) -- the balance of the forensic evidence, expert testimony, 911 calls, and witness testimony, was all entirely consistent with Zimmerman's account.

    I like the way you basically ignored 1) everything that went on in the trial, including the jury verdict, and 2) everything in my comment -- you just bleat again and again the same dumb shit that you choose to believe, which is not supported by the evidence -- then you throw in irrelevant crap about being a WN.

    It's pathetic.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @eah
    @Saggy

    Even though I said I would not comment again...

    Dude, why the hell do you think I care that you are a WN? -- what possible relevance does that have here? -- do you imagine it increases your credibility? -- I mean what the fuck.

    Zimmerman was yelling for help (the weight of the evidence strongly indicates this) because Martin was on top of him, beating him -- this was before he was able to grab and use his weapon -- Zimmerman testified he was being beaten and was afraid; that he cried for help and reached for his weapon at the same time Martin pummeled him, and shot Martin while he was on top of him -- forensic evidence showed Martin was shot from very close range (a couple of inches) -- the balance of the forensic evidence, expert testimony, 911 calls, and witness testimony, was all entirely consistent with Zimmerman's account.

    I like the way you basically ignored 1) everything that went on in the trial, including the jury verdict, and 2) everything in my comment -- you just bleat again and again the same dumb shit that you choose to believe, which is not supported by the evidence -- then you throw in irrelevant crap about being a WN.

    It's pathetic.

    Replies: @Saggy

    then you throw in irrelevant crap about being a WN.

    Truly you are dumber than a brick. This whole thing, the Fields case, the Trayvon case, are all about political considerations influencing criminal cases. Confirmation bias if you will. Absolutely every ‘social justice warrior’ believes Fields is guilty and the verdict was just. Absolutely every ‘white nationalist’ (myself included) believes that Fields was guilty of manslaughter at worst and even that is questionable. On the other hand absolutely every ‘social justice warrior’ believes that Zimmerman was guilty and should have been convicted, and every ‘white nationalist’ (myself excepted) believes that Zimmerman was innocent of any crime whatever.

    So, the fact that Zimmerman, a 30 (?) y.o. nut case with a gun and a grudge stalked a black teenager who had gone out for Skittles is perfectly OK. That he confronted the teenager, no doubt belligerently, is not germane. OK, that is expected confirmation bias, idiotic, but understandable. But to believe that the person yelling help seconds before they are shot is the not the person at whom the gun is pointed is beyond idiotic.

    Which gets me to a larger point, and that is the absolute evil stupidity of many ‘white nationalists’. You don’t see it so much here, but check out StormFront. And personally, I just had a little internet disagreement with a friend of mine, big Trump supporter, really great guy, great bandleader who can get gigs, but terrible drummer, and he thinks Trump should be bombing the hell out of the Muslims in the ME. He’d been posting on facebook since the election, and that was all cool, but when I called him out on the Iran debacle he was … I’ve just looked it up … he began “Iran has a death wish and it’s going to happen, too” he continued …. ” Because we are the land of the free and they are not…………..They are repressive have dictators and want to rule the world. We are as a super power obligated to protect the weak and for our own interest protect us from destruction from these ruthless killers like Hitler, Stalin, and many more. Are you a communist now xxxx”. Or you can check out Stormfront when some white girl dies at the hands of a black, many of these fools are cheering. If the Jews were to design a website to turn the great majority of whites away from white nationalism Stormfront is what they would come up with.

    One other thing – it doesn’t bother me that the idiots say ‘Zimmerman is innocent of any crime’, but when the leaders, DD, Pat Buchanan, absolutely every white nationalist ‘leader’ or spokesperson I’ve read who has weighed in on the subject, goes along with that idiocy it is a little disturbing.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @Wally
    @Saggy

    Zimmerman "stalked" no one. He did watch and try to protect the neighborhood from a criminal scum bag who deserved what he got.

    You cluelessly said:
    "We are as a super power obligated to protect the weak and for our own interest protect us from destruction from these ruthless killers like Hitler ..."

    Hitler simply did not do what is alleged and there is no proof that he did. Yet you recite the debunked propaganda and pretend to know what you re talking about.

    Put down the weed, dude.

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @Marcus
    @Saggy

    Obviously Martin was in the process of attacking Zimmerman when he was justifiably shot. Do you really think he knew that Z was armed when he profiled and then attacked George?

  • @Wally
    @Saggy

    Zimmerman "stalked" no one. He did watch and try to protect the neighborhood from a criminal scum bag who deserved what he got.

    You cluelessly said:
    "We are as a super power obligated to protect the weak and for our own interest protect us from destruction from these ruthless killers like Hitler ..."

    Hitler simply did not do what is alleged and there is no proof that he did. Yet you recite the debunked propaganda and pretend to know what you re talking about.

    Put down the weed, dude.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Zimmerman “stalked” no one. He did watch and try to protect the neighborhood from a criminal scum bag who deserved what he got.

    This is the kind of evil stupidity that characterizes the bottom rung of ‘white nationalism’. And why in the general population, ‘white nationalism’ is reviled.

    You cluelessly said:

    You can’t read, dude.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Saggy


    Zimmerman “stalked” no one. He did watch and try to protect the neighborhood from a criminal scum bag who deserved what he got.

    This is the kind of evil stupidity that characterizes the bottom rung of ‘white nationalism’. And why in the general population, ‘white nationalism’ is reviled.
     

    Please. Trayvon was a violent criminal who pinned Zimmerman to the ground and was punching him.

    The only evil is the kind that is the responsible for Martin's kind in our society, and furthermore responsible for inventing a non-existent scandal through the press that worked to split this nation down the middle.

    White nationalism isn't reviled in the general population. See Trump's election. White nationalism is the default setting for the majority White people. The only difference lies in their ability to insulate themselves from Blacks, their reflexive politeness, and their weakness for virtue signalling. Embed any one of them deeply enough with Blacks in order to expose them to reality as well as to ramp up stress that reveals their true interests, and observe an emerging White Nationalist.

    You can sooth yourself with lies serving as wish fulfillment, but don't expect anyone to take your fantasy seriously here.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • @Anon
    @Saggy


    Zimmerman “stalked” no one. He did watch and try to protect the neighborhood from a criminal scum bag who deserved what he got.

    This is the kind of evil stupidity that characterizes the bottom rung of ‘white nationalism’. And why in the general population, ‘white nationalism’ is reviled.
     

    Please. Trayvon was a violent criminal who pinned Zimmerman to the ground and was punching him.

    The only evil is the kind that is the responsible for Martin's kind in our society, and furthermore responsible for inventing a non-existent scandal through the press that worked to split this nation down the middle.

    White nationalism isn't reviled in the general population. See Trump's election. White nationalism is the default setting for the majority White people. The only difference lies in their ability to insulate themselves from Blacks, their reflexive politeness, and their weakness for virtue signalling. Embed any one of them deeply enough with Blacks in order to expose them to reality as well as to ramp up stress that reveals their true interests, and observe an emerging White Nationalist.

    You can sooth yourself with lies serving as wish fulfillment, but don't expect anyone to take your fantasy seriously here.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Zimmerman “stalked” no one.

    You might as well announce, 1+1 = 3. If you cannot acknowledge simple well documented facts you prove yourself a hopeless ideologue who is incapable of independent thought and also incapable of recognizing simple facts.

    Trayvon was a violent criminal who pinned Zimmerman to the ground and was punching him.

    Z stalked and confronted T, there was a fight. However, the instigator of the fight was armed.

    The only evil is the kind that is the responsible for Martin’s kind in our society,

    Stupid, idiotic. Who in hell is responsible? Washington, Jefferson, et. al. We brought them here you freaking idiot.

    White nationalism isn’t reviled in the general population. See Trump’s election.

    Trump was elected by Hillary, probably the most despised presidential candidate in history. White nationalism is not only despised, we are watching as it is being censored out of the internet and being made all but illegal, and NO ONE is objecting. Wake up.

    You can sooth yourself with lies serving as wish fulfillment,

    Can you not understand, I am a white nationalist. I’m a racist, a white supremacist. Although, I admit, I do not have a visceral hatred for every black person on the planet or even in the US. And, I believe the legal system should be color blind, absolutely.

    I want to see the white race preserved, I want to see white culture preserved. And I don’t think idiots who wear their hatred like a badge of honor are going to get the job done.

    • Replies: @EH
    @Saggy

    No one who isn't a complete idiot,having seen your obdurately ignorant jackassery on the Zimmrman case, is ever going to give the slightest creedance to anything you post in the future.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • "For too long our leaders have failed us, taking us into one regime change war after the next, leading us into a new Cold War and arms race, costing us trillions of our hard-earned tax payer dollars and countless lives. This insanity must end." Donald Trump, circa 2016? Nope. That denunciation of John Bolton interventionism...
  • @Robert Dolan
    It doesn't matter what any of them say. It's all bullshit. They do analytics and try to figure out what people want to hear and they bleat it out, then when they get into office they do whatever the nose tells them to do.

    How could any intelligent human being witness the Trump betrayal and then continue to believe in the system?

    Trump said lots of nice things, then shit on his base. His main issue was immigration and he totally fucked it up. He didn't fight for the promises he made. He allowed shabbos Ryan and shabbos McConnell to dictate open borders policy to give the jews what they want to continue the replacement of white people.

    Tulsi would be no different. None of them would be any different.

    There are no political solutions to our problems.

    Replies: @Rurik, @Harold Smith, @Jacques Sheete, @Saggy

    Trump said lots of nice things, then shit on his base.

    Nearly everyone on the planet knows that Trump’s character is non-existent. Generalizing from Trump to every other candidate is silly.

    Further, I was not fooled by Obama, I was not fooled by Trump. I think Tulsi has character.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
    @Saggy

    Yet you will be fooled by Gabbard? Is it the nice ass? It must be. You should leave your sexual fantasies out of your political considerations.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • I don’t believe James Alex Fields Jr., 22, got justice from the U.S. court system, and I certainly don’t expect he will get mercy. [Man convicted of killing Heather Heyer in Charlottesville attack asks judge for 'mercy' by Alan Suderman, Associated Press/WJLA, June 22nd 2019] And I further believe that, to a considerable extent, this...
  • @EH
    @Saggy

    No one who isn't a complete idiot,having seen your obdurately ignorant jackassery on the Zimmrman case, is ever going to give the slightest creedance to anything you post in the future.

    Replies: @Saggy

    No one who isn’t a complete idiot,

    Complete idiots write posts that are 100% ad hominem idiocy, just like your post.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Rogue
    @Saggy

    I think the jury made the right call with regard to Zimmerman.

    That is not to say that he was unquestionably innocent. The fact is, we simply don't know.

    Western jurisprudence is generally based on what can be be decided on a basis of reasonable doubt - specifically , beyond reasonable doubt.

    It is a mechanism for what can be best ascertained - not for crystal-ball sure knowledge.

    Therefore, I believe Zimmerman received the right verdict - even if in reality he is a scumbag.

    Not saying that he is - merely making a argument. He might have been 100% innocent.

    Hence the reasonable verdict.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Hence the reasonable verdict.

    Without the audio it would be a reasonable verdict. However, it is not reasonable to think that someone pointing a gun at another person would be yelling ‘help …. help …’. If you listen to the audio you hear a ‘help …. help …. bang (the shot)’. Martin was shot while pleading for his life after being stalked and confronted by a would be vigilante.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @Marcus
    @Saggy

    Because he wasn't pointing it at him you genius. Z pulled it out after getting jumped. Yelling for help in that situation is understandable whether you have a gun or not

  • "For too long our leaders have failed us, taking us into one regime change war after the next, leading us into a new Cold War and arms race, costing us trillions of our hard-earned tax payer dollars and countless lives. This insanity must end." Donald Trump, circa 2016? Nope. That denunciation of John Bolton interventionism...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read
    @Saggy

    Yet you will be fooled by Gabbard? Is it the nice ass? It must be. You should leave your sexual fantasies out of your political considerations.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Yet you will be fooled by Gabbard? Is it the nice ass? It must be. You should leave your sexual fantasies out of your political considerations.

    It’s her manner of speech. I’ve seen mainly head shots, don’t have a good idea of the bod. But, she is a babe, no question.

    I’m also a Rand Paul fan, and I’m pretty sure his ass is noting to look at.

    I also liked Kucinich.

    I don’t think it is impossible that a politician is honest, but, it takes more than honesty, and it seems highly unlikely that a politician not controlled by the Jews will succeed.

    The remarkable thing to me is that Paul gets zero, that’s ZERO, traction from left or right. Of course you can find fault with Paul, but on the, that’s THE, topic of senseless wars and runaway executive control of the govt. he seems to be the best.

  • I don’t believe James Alex Fields Jr., 22, got justice from the U.S. court system, and I certainly don’t expect he will get mercy. [Man convicted of killing Heather Heyer in Charlottesville attack asks judge for 'mercy' by Alan Suderman, Associated Press/WJLA, June 22nd 2019] And I further believe that, to a considerable extent, this...
  • Because he wasn’t pointing it at him you genius. Z pulled it out after getting jumped. Yelling for help in that situation is understandable whether you have a gun or not

    Do you understand what confirmation bias means? It explains why EVERY ‘white nationalist’ (myself excepted) is able to completely ignore (eah) or produce a harebrained interpretation (Marcus) of prima facie evidence that Zimmerman is guilty of murder. Then, to bolster his argument the ‘white nationalist’ will refer to the ‘nigger scum’ that was killed. This is why ‘white nationalists’ are a laughing stock in the US. Moreover, the govt. feels free to pass resolutions condemning white nationalistm, https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/41/all-actions?overview=closed&q=%7B%22roll-call-vote%22%3A%22all%22%7D with a vote of 424 – 1 (who was the 1 ?). As long as ‘white nationalism’ is dominated by idiots or fact-immune ideologues it is doomed to fringe status.

  • To learn about me watch the award winning documentary Gilad and All That Jazz. Meet my detractors, my audience, my family and make up your mind…
  • Saggy says: • Website

    Fair enough but there were gas chambers Gilad

    Only one. And, we have a picture …. this is the door into the gas chamber, from the inside…

    How anyone could be stupid enough build a hoax gas chamber with an unsealed wooden office door with a large window will perhaps never be known, but we do know who did the building … from the book ‘Auschwitz 1270 to the Present’ by Holocaust scholars Robert Jan van Pelt and Deborah Dwork:

    When Auschwitz was transformed into a museum after the war, the decision was taken to concentrate the history of the whole complex into one of its component parts. The infamous crematoria where the mass murders had taken place lay in ruins in Birkenau, two miles away. The committee felt that a crematorium was required at the end of the memorial journey, and crematorium I was reconstructed to speak for the history of the incinerators at Birkenau. This program of usurpation was rather detailed. A chimney, the ultimate symbol of Birkenau, was re-created; four hatched openings in the roof, as if for pouring Zyklon B into the gas chamber below, were installed, and two of the three furnaces were rebuilt using original parts. There are no signs to explain these restitutions, they were not marked at the time, and the guides remain silent about it when they take visitors through this building that is presumed by the tourist to be the place where it happened.

    For the record, the number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and the Nazis aggressively investigated crime in the camps ….. under direction of the ‘bloodhound judge’ Conrad Morgen – https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-07-46.asp

    HERR PELCKMANN: Now, briefly summarized, what was the outcome of the fight of the SS jurisdiction against crime in con-centration camps?

    REINECKE: Altogether, approximately 800 cases were investi-gated; 400 of these 800 cases were brought to trial, and 200 out of those 400 ended with sentences by the court. Among the cases investigated were proceedings against five commanders of concentra-tion camps; proceedings against two commanders were completed and ended with a sentence of death by shooting.,

    MORGEN: I investigated Weimar-Buchenwald, Lublin, Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Hertogenbosch, Krakow; Plaszow, Warsaw, and the Concentration Camp Dachau. And others were investigated after my time.

    HERR PELCKMANN: How many cases did you investigate? How many sentences were passed? How many death sentences?

    MORGEN: I investigated about 800 cases, that is, about 800 documents, and one document would affect several cases. About 200 were tried during my activity. Five concentration camp commanders were arrested by me personally. Two were shot after being tried.

    HERR PELCKMANN: You had them shot?

    MORGEN: Yes. Apart from the commanders, there were numerous other death sentences against Fuehrer and Unterfuehrer.

    • Agree: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    @Saggy

    You are not listening to Gilad's video, he does not admit that he is a Holocaust denier. Gilad rejects being called an anti Semite. Something all you deniers do not give a flying fuck about. I am not here to argue for or against the Holocaust believe what you will.
    Most Holocaust deniers are shunned from the world, David Irving can't buy a lecture room anywhere in the world.
    Gilad wants to speak, lecture and write. Holocaust denial will alter his respectability. It is a fine line. Ron and Gilad and even Philip Giraldi want to dance with you all but not really where the rubber meats the road, they may say that there are revisions in total numbers but that is it.
    No one in their right might denies the Holocaust that is a fact of life, the ones that insist are very marginalized.
    Knock yourselves out but spare me the memes and bullshit. Follow the story it is about Gilad and whether he denies it or not. Listen Saggy I am not reading your shite.

    Replies: @Svigor, @anon

    , @MarkU
    @Saggy


    For the record, the number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero
     
    Who came up with with that slippery formulation? Why do see it repeated practically verbatim so frequently? How in God's name could that ever be established to be true?

    Zero is a very small number, it only takes one single case to make the statement false.

    As it stands anyone who takes part in these debates who is inclined to believe that the Jewish death toll was anywhere between zero and six million is liable to be flamed by both sides. Whose interest does that serve? Who would deliberately argue the most extreme case possible, or encourage others to do so? Only a credulous fool or a deliberate saboteur that is who.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @MarkU
    @Saggy


    For the record, the number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero
     
    Who came up with with that slippery formulation? Why do see it repeated practically verbatim so frequently? How in God's name could that ever be established to be true?

    Zero is a very small number, it only takes one single case to make the statement false.

    As it stands anyone who takes part in these debates who is inclined to believe that the Jewish death toll was anywhere between zero and six million is liable to be flamed by both sides. Whose interest does that serve? Who would deliberately argue the most extreme case possible, or encourage others to do so? Only a credulous fool or a deliberate saboteur that is who.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Who came up with with that slippery formulation?

    I took it from this video …. .


    Video Link… when it was on YouTube, now deleted … but still available on BitChute ….

    It is the opposite of slippery. It’s a simple fact.

    Why do see it repeated practically verbatim so frequently?

    I like it, and I tend to repeat myself.

    How in God’s name could that ever be established to be true?

    The whole idea of Nazis killing Jews in the camps because they were Jews is not only false, it is preposterous and contrary to everything that we know about the Nazis. It is just as if I’d said the number of Japanese killed in the US camps for being Japanese is zero. It didn’t happen.

    Also I always follow that remark with information about Conrad Morgen who investigated crimes by the SS in the camps. More from Morgen ….. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-07-46.asp

    MORGEN: Yes, because I had authority to visit concentration camps. Only a very few persons had this permission. Before beginning an investigation, I examined the concentration camp in question in all its details very closely, inspecting especially those arrangements which seemed particularly important to me. I visited them repeatedly and without notice. I was working mostly in Buchenwald itself for 8 months and have lived there. I was in Dachau for one or two months.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Since so many visitors to concentration camps say they were deceived, do you consider it possible that you, too, were a victim of such deceit?

    MORGEN: I have just pointed out that I was not a mere visitor to a concentration camp but I had settled down there for a long residence, I might almost say I established myself there. It is almost impossible to be deceived for such a long time. In addition, the commissions from the Reich Criminal Police Department worked under my instructions, and I placed them directly in the concentration camps themselves. I do not mean to say that in spite of these very intensive efforts I was able to learn of all the crimes, but I believe that there was no deception in regard to what I did learn.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Did you gain the impression, and at what time, that the concentration camps were places for the extermination of human beings?

    MORGEN: I did not gain this impression. A concentration camp is not a place for the extermination of human beings. I must say that my first visit to a concentration camp-I mentioned the first one was Weimar-Buchenwald-was a great surprise to me. The

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    7 Aug. 46

    camp is situated on wooded heights, with a wonderful view. The installations were clean and freshly painted. There was much lawn and flowers. The prisoners were healthy, normally fed, sun-tanned, working …

    PRESIDENT: When are you speaking of? When are you speaking of?

    MORGEN: I am speaking of the beginning of my investigations in July 1943.

    If you recall Buchenwald is where Ilse Koch supposed drank the blood of Jewish prisoners, etc., and Morgen was tortured at Nuremberg to testify to Ilse’s crimes, but he refused. The holohoax is not only false, it is 100% fantasy.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Gilad Atzmon
    @Fran Taubman

    I do not promote holocaust denial as much as I do not promote holocaust conservativism. I am not historian and do not offer a view of the past. What i do instead is fight against all attempts to that restrict a free discussion on the past or any other topic that is related to our life on this planet...

    Replies: @Saggy, @Fran Taubman, @Jon Baptist

    I do not promote holocaust denial as much as I do not promote holocaust conservativism.

    Lying Jews created the holohoax, It is the responsibility of every honest Jew (I don’t think you can find 5, living) to expose the lies. The holohoax was pivotal in creation of Israel and it has led to the unending wars in the ME which have killed millions and which threaten to expand to Armageddon any day now.

    I am not historian and do not offer a view of the past.

    This is bullshit. You have two choices, expose the holohoax or be considered another lying Jew.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    @Saggy

    Accomplices come in many forms.

    (((They))) make (((themselves))) accomplices by:
    • counsel
    • command
    • consent
    • provocation
    • praise
    • silence
    • assistance
    • concealment
    • defense
    • excusing

    Accomplices, too, must be prosecuted—even 90-year old janitors, (((their))) own precedent regarding "crimes against humanity," even economic crimes against humanity.

    , @Parisian Guy
    @Saggy



    Gilad Atzmon said:
    I am not historian and do not offer a view of the past.
     
    This is bullshit. You have two choices, expose the holohoax or be considered another lying Jew.
     
    I give Atzmon credits for letting the Anonymous Armchair Warrior spit such virtue-signaling prosecution. In real-life assessment, it appears you are prosecuting with almost the same asking than the one from Fran Taubman. How is it?

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Bob Fosse’s 1972 film Cabaret is supposed to be propaganda for Weimar decadence and against Nazi brutality. But the film utterly fails as propaganda insofar as it changes no minds. In fact, Cabaret is more akin to a diagnostic tool—like inkblot tests or gestalt images—for distinguishing between fundamentally different human types: people who love beauty...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Steve Naidamast
    I saw "Cabaret" when the film came out. Though I understood at the time what it was trying to portray, like most films of the 1970s, I did not find it very good.

    Cinema in the 1970s was going through a transitional period that would not end until the early 1990s when "naturalism" in acting would have matured into the current art form we now enjoy.

    However, whenever I read an article about the Third Reich or the the inter-war period and a description of National Socialism is included, the author invariably states that he or she does not condone National Socialism or makes some allusion as to why people wouldn't normally condone such a political system.

    The question is why not?

    National Socialism, minus its more disreputable tenets, was designed to revitalize a nation and a people's national destiny. It succeeded at doing so beyond anyone's expectations turning Germany from a destroyed nation to the most powerful and prosperous one on the European continent in the space of only around 5 years. What's not to like?

    What other political system in history has had this goal at its core and succeeded at it?

    It is true that British imperialism provided a lot of good in the world along with many negatives but no one is saying things such as it should never have been condoned or that many people would not agree with it. Many did and quite a few historians see British imperialism at its peak as Britain's greatest time in history. Never mind the many populations that were subjugated to it. Yet no one ever makes any excuses for describing British history.

    Rome and her Legions may have conquered quite a bit of the known world in her time but many of us have been taught to admire this ancient society and its soldiers simply from the wonders that they built. Rome did commit of course many atrocities but when it comes right down to it, all Rome wanted was to be loved. If a conquered nation provided the necessary fealty (and taxes) she was more or less left alone from Roman proclivities for ruthlessness. There is no ROI in constantly trying to slaughter those you expect payment from.

    In reality, a large part of Roman administrative processes were devoted to is "protection racket" around its empire. Yet no one ever makes any excuses for describing Roman history.

    The United States' political leaders just love to boast how great our nation is. The "indispensable nation on Earth" as some of them would say.

    But let's get real here. The United States was created for one single reason, the greed of the colonial elite. After the American Revolution, very little changed for the average, newly minted American citizen.

    In 1787 the US Constitution was written and ratified in 1789. This revered document was designed to keep the "mob" at bay (the citizens of this august republic) while maintaining and enhancing the wealth of the existing colonial elites.

    Why do you think that the writers of this document made it so difficult to change? Getting 2/3's majority vote in the Congress for a constitutional amendment is just about near impossible. As a result, we in the US are still stuck with an antiquated 18th century document that in all reality did not allow for much.

    The US capitalistic system may have led to the development of a very powerful economy over time with many inventions and discoveries along the way but the cost to the average American citizen (and its many immigrants) has been substantial in terms of misery; something National Socialism rescued the average German citizen from.

    Let's also understand something else; the Weimar Republic was brought to you by those victorious allies in the first world war. For the first time in military history an opponent that was still very much on its adversary's land was put into a position where it had to surrender to what was in reality a weaker opponent.

    Once done, the United States, Britain, and France set to ensuring that Germany would remain a destroyed and poverty stricken nation by carving her up and giving the pieces away to some of the most venal types on Earth. All along, the British maintained her starvation blockade of the German nation while Herbert Hoover did everything in his power to get food to the German citizenry. But no one ever makes a complaint regarding this atrocious part of British history. It was OK since they were a victor.

    And while Germany was on her knees the influx of eastern European Jews into Germany created a firestorm of Communist upheaval that took close to a civil war to suppress.

    France was the worst of the three considering that Prime Minister Clemenceau completely destroy Germany and hence the viscous monetary reparations that were levied against a prostate German nation.

    But last but not least we have the glorious, capitalistic creature that now knows no bounds to its inherent greed, the United States. Wilson got this country into a war that he should have never entered and after we left it, the US then insisted that all war debts by the Allies be repaid. This of course hit Britain and France very deep in their purses, which in turn added fuel to fire regarding German reparations.

    This toxic mix would of course have generated what would would become the "sin city" of Europe, Berlin while the republic itself remained weak and ineffective while France and Britain continued to drain the life out of this nation.

    So why should we not at least the consider National Socialism in the same light as we consider other histories. After all, it did its job quite well. The only problem was that Britain felt threatened economically and so instituted a set of schemes to bring on the second world war.

    No it was not Germany who brought this repeat performance but jolly, good, old England. Any who question this should then look at the diplomatic histories of the inter-war period and the documents they are based upon.

    Poland became a very good lackey for England in this process. Categorically speaking, the Polish leadership was nothing more than a bunch of fruitcakes that would make any Christmas cake look bad by comparison. These lunatics (just like their reactionary American counterparts of recent history) wanted to bring back the glorious Polish Empire days of the 17th century. They redefined the concept of "delusional". So they were quite happy to mix it up with Germany at England's urging. And would have done so as early as 1936 had they had the political opportunity to do so.

    Of course, they should have thought about the Soviet Bear that was just to their East while Germany was doing everything in its power to develop peaceful and friendly relations for this sad excuse of a nation.

    And of course, the US was again playing again both sides of this show.

    Was National Socialism something we should all cringe at today? I think not!

    A little dose of National Socialism in the US and Europe may actually straighten the current messes out.

    It is after all about our own backyards and not someone else's...

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    No it was not Germany who brought this repeat performance but jolly, good, old England. Any who question this should then look at the diplomatic histories of the inter-war period and the documents they are based upon.-

    Look at the diplomatic histories? How so?

    In any case, there is a book that is probably the most important book you’ve never heard of, that makes the case. The book is ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or How to Make a War About Nothing’ written by British man of letters Wyndham Lewis in 1936. Some quotes

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    As far as Great Britain is concerned, there is, in 1936, not a shadow of a reason for a war with anybody. It is because that there is no concrete reason that abstract reasons have had to be thought up and trotted out.

    Nationalism may be superseded by the issue between different forms of political structure, between parliamentarism, fascism, and Bolshevism. …. Parliamentarism and Bolshevism seem to feel a remarkable affinity for one another, if for no other reason than that they are both consumed with an equal hatred of fascism.

    No British statesman has ever desired a war with Germany. But they have apparently come to regard themselves as committed to a policy which is violently determined to rid Europe of Hitler. And they are well aware that that cannot be effected without the risk of another world-war. It is not so much ‘fascist dictatorship’ that excites them — for after all they left Mussolini in complete peace for a decade. Neither does Dictatorship , in itself, excite them so much as all that — even accompanied by a permanent Reign of Terror and the massacre of millions of people. For Soviet Russia has been left undisturbed. No, it can only be something about the internal regime of Adolf Hitler that excites in them this implacable mood.

    The Franco-Soviet pact has been ratified and it is highly probable that a Rumano-Soviet pact, on the lines of the military pact between the Soviet and Czechoslovakia, will be signed in the near future. The Austrian Government (which represents a fantastically small fraction of the people of Austria) seems to be moving towards an entente with the Little Entente. So the game of ‘encirclement’ goes on: and all these arrangements — carried on in every case over the heads and usually in contradiction to the wishes of the people — are made possible, and constantly stimulated by British and French gold. The remarks which I have quoted from the Morning Post mean, in plain language, that Great Britain is about to arm the Soviet against Germany. (Marshal Tukachevski stopped behind in England after the funeral of King George to go round the British armament factories to pick his tanks and guns.) There have constantly been rumours of a fifty million pounds British loan to France. That, too, in plain language, is Great Britain arming France against ‘the Hun’

    There is one country where the Englishman is certain of a warm welcome: there is one country whose government never ceases to proffer friendship, and to be accommodating and polite, and that is Germany. Year in and year out, like a love-sick supplicant, Herr Hitler pays his court to the haughty Britannia. Every insult that can be invented even by the resourceful Mr. Churchill is tamely swallowed, every rebuff of Mr. Baldwin’s, every sneer of Mr. Eden, is meekly accepted, by this pertinacious suitor!

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Saggy


    The book is ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or How to Make a War About Nothing’ written by British man of letters Wyndham Lewis in 1936.
     
    Always rated Lewis highly. Now even higher.

    From the excerpts you provide it sounds like the more things change, the more... repetitious this world now really is. NATO picks fights against potential assets while arming and charming duds. The suspicion of Putin in the US and UK in particular are so similar to the cold shoulder treatment Hitler got from the beginning, as Lewis notes.

    In white Norway rat studies of two generations ago, abasing yourself before dangerous potential killers and attacking your own harmless relatives is a pathological symptom of forced overcrowding.

    Our elites are too inbred and don't get enough solitary desert holidays. Maybe we can solve that.
    , @Steve Naidamast
    @Saggy

    There is a huge difference between what the historical diplomatic primary source documentation says about inter-war Britain and what an author writes about British culture.

    If you want to study this diplomatic history, one of the most detailed books available is David Hoggan's, "The Forced War".

    It is a difficult read due to the detail involved but it is probably the definitive study on the subject...

    , @Sam J.
    @Saggy

    A very good quote and there's a very important point to be made here.

    "...Nationalism may be superseded by the issue between different forms of political structure, between parliamentarism, fascism, and Bolshevism. …. Parliamentarism and Bolshevism seem to feel a remarkable affinity for one another, if for no other reason than that they are both consumed with an equal hatred of fascism..."

    Neither the capitalist or the commies are of any use at all if the economy is run in a balanced fashion like National Socialism. With National Socialism capitalist are held in check, the crazy commies who want to turn the whole entire country upside down without any proof at all they can run anything at all are held in check and at the same time business and people who are obsessed with money can make a buck if they work within the boundaries set by the NS government to protect the people. The National Socialist system is a balanced system. There's no doubt at all that Hitler made huge gains for the average German. The capitalistic system does provide great material progress if it's not too monopolized but needs checks which NS provides. Neither capitalism or communism have appropriate checks and balances.

    Commies don't care about any sort of tradition or nationalism either. They want to melt down all relationships to economics just EXACTLY like the capitalist. They are just the flip side. Even worse it's guaranteed that any commie revolution will have masses of psychopaths at the top repressing everyone.

    You want to see what a National Socialist government can do. Look at Japan. They are 100% Nazi. Their government, banking and business system is 100% structured like the Nazis. Japan may be far from perfect and they have struggled economically but look at their economy. They have not allowed ANY immigration so the working population has shrunk dramatically yet they still live in a modern, clean, healthy environment compared to...say San Fransisco. They don't have masses of people shitting in the streets. All this even though they have next to no resources in minerals, fuel or food. They still do reasonably well. They're not rich but have a vast middle class and no one is starving. The reason commies hate National Socialist so bad is that people are happier under National Socialist and have no need of commies to balance against the Oligarchical rapist capitalist. In NS the capitalist are already balanced so the commies have no reason to be.

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  • “White supremacist” has long been the preferred Jewish epithet to throw at White people who have the temerity to do what Jews do routinely: openly advocate for their ethnic interests. This hackneyed label has always been utterly beside the point: whether Whites are superior to non-Whites has no logical bearing on the moral legitimacy of...
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    Wait a minute. I’m a white supremacist along with the best of them. But ignoring the contribution of blacks to music is blockheaded. They have redefined modern music unless you’re a diehard Willie Nelson fan. There is, for example, only one Sarah Vaughn – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJXLqAutql4

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    @Saggy

    Supremacist is a misnomer, eh?
    We appreciate the great and beautiful, even of the 'other.' Hell, blacks are so much more American before being debauched by Eisenhower and following false friends.
    One just does not appreciate or tolerate what seems to be a forced imposition of all sorts of others that can only debase us as a culture, people, and civilization.

    , @authenticjazzman
    @Saggy

    Amen Bro.

    The melodic excursions/improvisations of one Charlie Parker, or one Dizzy Gillespie, or One Clifford Brown, or one Wes Montgomery most certainly are on the same artistic level as the Baroque masters.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet and pro jazz artist.

    PS regarding my credentials so as to be forwarding such bold statements: having been in fact, decades ago, member of a band of which the drummer had on occasion performed with J Coltrane, T Monk, the (white) Chet Baker , etc.

  • Too good to pass up …. probably the consensus greatest pianist of the 20th century ……. if you don’t appreciate classical music check this out …. I didn’t understand classical music until I heard Horowitz ….

    Video Link

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    @Saggy

    None better than the great Horowitz, for sure.
    But many others can play in his league, as well...
    Walter Gieseking, Emil Gilels, Artur Rubenstein, et. al.
    Everyone here likely has his own list, usually of the form:
    {Composition] as performed by [Artist]
    Thanks for sharing... :)

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    @Agent76
    @Wally

    "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." William Shakespeare

    Mar 14, 2012 Holocaust Uncovered (1945) - WARNING: Distressing Images

    English MP Mrs. Mavis Tate shows proof of the holocaust with shots from her visit to a German concentratino camp. Taken from the original 1945 British Pathe newsreel "German Atrocities - Proof". This Pathe newsreel showed the world at the time what atrocities had been committed.

    https://youtu.be/-tGwjwK9pIM

    Replies: @Saggy, @Theodore

    Buchenwald was not a hoax ‘death camp’ and hence doesn’t have anything to do with the holohoax. Ditto for Belsen. There were only six hoax ‘death camps’, see https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/killing-centers-an-overview. The Soviets got to the camps in Poland first, and they were evacuated and the prisoners transferred west to camps in Germany. The resulting overcrowding, and the fact that Germany was being constantly bombed, led to horrific conditions in the camps and a great number of deaths from disease (though not starvation). The US liberated Buchenwald and Eisenhower became a major promoter of the holohoax, implicitly claiming that the prisoners that had died were purposefully killed by the Germans. This was categorically false. The really horrific pictures with the mass graves come from Belsen … the Brits filmed the liberation of Belsen and made a documentary film that was shelved for 50 years. It documents the typhus epidemic that killed 30,000 prisoners at the very end of the war in the camp, 10,000 after the camp was liberated. You can see it now, google PBS Frontline, Memory of the Camps. It does not document the efforts of the Nazis to combat the epidemic, which are documented in the
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ul72dV4SbAoh/,see also the truth about the photos of the prisoners at Nordhausen which was bombed …


    Video Linkhttps://i.imgur.com/owDaxXm.jpg

    • Replies: @Agent76
    @Saggy

    I will disagree with your fictional view!

    Hitler Survivor Condemns Gun Control 'KEEP YOUR GUNS, BUY MORE GUNS' - Katie Worthman

    https://youtu.be/RWfqkrAAnxM

    How Do You Kill 11 Million People?

    This whiteboard animation shows what happened when Hitler lied to get elected and people don't care or pay attention to the lies of their leaders, until they do care...and at that point, it is too late.

    https://youtu.be/EH_Izul6J5M

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  • @Parisian Guy
    @Saggy



    Gilad Atzmon said:
    I am not historian and do not offer a view of the past.
     
    This is bullshit. You have two choices, expose the holohoax or be considered another lying Jew.
     
    I give Atzmon credits for letting the Anonymous Armchair Warrior spit such virtue-signaling prosecution. In real-life assessment, it appears you are prosecuting with almost the same asking than the one from Fran Taubman. How is it?

    Replies: @Saggy

    I give Atzmon credits for letting the Anonymous Armchair Warrior spit such virtue-signaling prosecution

    Calling out the Jews is not virtue signalling, you blockhead !

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
    @Saggy



    I give Atzmon credits for letting the Anonymous Armchair Warrior spit such virtue-signaling prosecution
     
    Calling out the Jews is not virtue signalling, you blockhead !
     
    It is not the same brand of virtue. For sure.

    Nevertheless, it is virtue signaling. You exhhibit yourself as the Courageous Warrior, not afraid to call out Gilad Atzmon. It makes you fell good, feel right, feel courageous.

    Of course, I may be wrong.
    You may be only a nervous Jew hater.
    Or, an acomplice of Fran Taubman. What about your askings being same?

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  • @Parisian Guy
    @Saggy



    I give Atzmon credits for letting the Anonymous Armchair Warrior spit such virtue-signaling prosecution
     
    Calling out the Jews is not virtue signalling, you blockhead !
     
    It is not the same brand of virtue. For sure.

    Nevertheless, it is virtue signaling. You exhhibit yourself as the Courageous Warrior, not afraid to call out Gilad Atzmon. It makes you fell good, feel right, feel courageous.

    Of course, I may be wrong.
    You may be only a nervous Jew hater.
    Or, an acomplice of Fran Taubman. What about your askings being same?

    Replies: @Saggy

    Or, an acomplice of Fran Taubman. What about your askings being same?

    ??? Learn English, you damned idiot. Your posts are gobbledygook, although, in truth, I don’t think it’s only a language problem.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
    @Saggy



    Or, an acomplice of Fran Taubman. What about your askings being same?
     
    ??? Learn English, you damned idiot. Your posts are gobbledygook, although, in truth, I don’t think it’s only a language problem.
     
    IF ( answer == (insults + attacks_about_language_proficiency ) )

    THEN impotency_to answer_something_meaningful = TRUE

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  • Saggy says: • Website
    @JumpingJoe
    What's your proof that prisoners weren't starved? Let's see some sources. While we wait, from Wikipedia:

    A primary cause of death [56,000 deaths of the 250,000 prisoners] at Buchenwald was illness due to harsh camp conditions, with starvation—and its consequent illnesses—prevalent. Malnourished and suffering from disease, many were literally "worked to death" under the Vernichtung durch Arbeit policy (extermination through labor), as inmates only had the choice between slave labor or inevitable execution. Many inmates died as a result of human experimentation or fell victim to arbitrary acts perpetrated by the SS guards. Other prisoners were simply murdered, primarily by shooting and hanging.

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    This photo shows liberated Buchenwald prisoners …. they don’t look emaciated …
    This video


    Video Linkat the 24:20 marks shows Eisenhower with Ordruf/Buchenwald prisoners who do not look emaciated.

    Finally, the really horrific photos of dead emaciated prisoners being thrown into mass graves were taken at Belsen, where typhus killed 30,000 in the last weeks of the war, 10,000 after the camp was liberated. The vid linked above has a section at 18:00 on Belsen and the efforts of the commandant J. Kramer to combat the epidemic. Plus, we have http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n3p23_Weber.html

    Dr. Russell Barton, an English physician who spent a month in Bergen-Belsen after the war with the British Army, has also explained the reasons for the catastrophic conditions found there: /30
    ….
    I was surprised to find records, going back for two or three years, of large quantities of food cooked daily for distribution. I became convinced, contrary to popular opinion, that there had never been a policy of deliberate starvation. This was confirmed by the large numbers of well-fed inmates. Why then were so many people suffering from malnutrition?… The major reasons for the state of Belsen were disease, gross overcrowding by central authority, lack of law and order within the huts, and inadequate supplies of food, water and drugs.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Theodore
    @Agent76

    What happened at Buchenwald was horrible and the prisoners there certainly suffered immensely, there is no question about it. Those piles of bodies, emaciated prisoners, and diseased corpses are absolutely real, and it's absolutely terrible that it happened.

    However, those untold levels of human suffering were NOT a result of a deliberate policy of extermination by the Nazis. So-called "Holocaust deniers" claim that tens of thousands of people died at Buchenwald. Nobody claims it was a nice place to be, or that people didn't suffer there. The majority of deaths at Buchenwald happened in the final months of the war, when the camps were overcrowded and supplies (food, medicine, water) were running out.

    Germany lost World War II. They were invaded on both fronts, and their supply lines were bombed to smithereens. Thousands of their prisoners starved, many died, because of the lack of food. You can call this a "German atrocity" if you want, but it was not a systematic planned & deliberate extermination policy. It was a result of a crumbling Germany who was unable to provide adequate food to its citizens.

    In one air raid against a large munitions factory near the main Buchenwald camp, British bombers killed 750 persons, including 400 inmates. Do you think a pile of bodies of Jewish prisoners killed by British bombers is proof of "German atrocities" or not?

    More on Buchenwald: https://codoh.com/library/categories/936/?documents_sort=language

    Nobody was killed in a homicidal gas chamber at Buchenwald.

    Check out:


    According to an information booklet, which I obtained from the Buchenwald Memorial Site, records kept by the camp secretary show the number of deaths each year in Buchenwald, as follows:

    1937 - 48

    1938 - 771

    1939 - 1235

    1940 - 1772

    1941 - 1522

    1942 - 2898

    1943 - 3516

    1944 - 8644

    January to March 1945 - 13,056

    March to April 11, 1945 - 913

    Total 34,375

    The horrendous death toll during the first two months of 1945 was due to a typhus epidemic in the camp. During the same time period, there were also severe epidemics in all the other major concentration camps in Germany.

    Typhus is spread by lice and prisoners coming into Germany from the death camps in what is now Poland were the carriers of the lice. The worst epidemic of all was at Bergen-Belsen where 35,000 prisoners died in March and the first two weeks of April 1945.

    The death statistics for the first 11 days of April in Buchenwald indicate that the typhus epidemic was being brought under control there.
     
    From: https://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/DeathStatistics.html

    Replies: @Saggy

    For the record, the number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and the Nazis aggressively investigated crime in the camps ….. under direction of the ‘bloodhound judge’ Conrad Morgen – https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-07-46.asp

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    HERR PELCKMANN: Now, briefly summarized, what was the outcome of the fight of the SS jurisdiction against crime in con-centration camps?

    REINECKE: Altogether, approximately 800 cases were investi-gated; 400 of these 800 cases were brought to trial, and 200 out of those 400 ended with sentences by the court. Among the cases investigated were proceedings against five commanders of concentra-tion camps; proceedings against two commanders were completed and ended with a sentence of death by shooting.,

    MORGEN: I investigated Weimar-Buchenwald, Lublin, Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Hertogenbosch, Krakow; Plaszow, Warsaw, and the Concentration Camp Dachau. And others were investigated after my time.

    HERR PELCKMANN: How many cases did you investigate? How many sentences were passed? How many death sentences?

    MORGEN: I investigated about 800 cases, that is, about 800 documents, and one document would affect several cases. About 200 were tried during my activity. Five concentration camp commanders were arrested by me personally. Two were shot after being tried.

    HERR PELCKMANN: You had them shot?

    MORGEN: Yes. Apart from the commanders, there were numerous other death sentences against Fuehrer and Unterfuehrer.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Did you have any opportunity of gaining personal insight into the conditions in concentration camps?

    MORGEN: Yes, because I had authority to visit concentration camps. Only a very few persons had this permission. Before beginning an investigation, I examined the concentration camp in question in all its details very closely, inspecting especially those arrangements which seemed particularly important to me. I visited them repeatedly and without notice. I was working mostly in Buchenwald itself for 8 months and have lived there. I was in Dachau for one or two months.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Since so many visitors to concentration camps say they were deceived, do you consider it possible that you, too, were a victim of such deceit?

    MORGEN: I have just pointed out that I was not a mere visitor to a concentration camp but I had settled down there for a long residence, I might almost say I established myself there. It is almost impossible to be deceived for such a long time. In addition, the commissions from the Reich Criminal Police Department worked under my instructions, and I placed them directly in the concentration camps themselves. I do not mean to say that in spite of these very intensive efforts I was able to learn of all the crimes, but I believe that there was no deception in regard to what I did learn.

    HERR PELCKMANN: Did you gain the impression, and at what time, that the concentration camps were places for the extermination of human beings?

    MORGEN: I did not gain this impression. A concentration camp is not a place for the extermination of human beings. I must say that my first visit to a concentration camp-I mentioned the first one was Weimar-Buchenwald-was a great surprise to me. The

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    7 Aug. 46

    camp is situated on wooded heights, with a wonderful view. The installations were clean and freshly painted. There was much lawn and flowers. The prisoners were healthy, normally fed, sun-tanned, working …

    PRESIDENT: When are you speaking of? When are you speaking of?

    MORGEN: I am speaking of the beginning of my investigations in July 1943.

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  • @Parisian Guy
    @Saggy



    Or, an acomplice of Fran Taubman. What about your askings being same?
     
    ??? Learn English, you damned idiot. Your posts are gobbledygook, although, in truth, I don’t think it’s only a language problem.
     
    IF ( answer == (insults + attacks_about_language_proficiency ) )

    THEN impotency_to answer_something_meaningful = TRUE

    Replies: @Saggy

    IF ( answer == (insults + attacks_about_language_proficiency ) )

    THEN impotency_to answer_something_meaningful = TRUE

    I’ve come to the conclusion that not only do you not know enough English to communicate effectively, that doesn’t really matter because you have mashed potatoes for brains. You contribute nothing but pure idiocy.

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  • And then one day, they realized the Umited States was created by a bunch of honkies……

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Redneck farmer

    "...created by honkies."

    That's fake news, right? The founders of the USA were black, I'm sure I've heard of movies or something about it. They're constantly clearing up that old junk we were taught, usually in movies or TV specials.

    Even the Daughters of the American Revolution are trying to shore up their sagging membership by diversifying.

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    @Redneck farmer

    Priceless.

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  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Parisian Guy
    When you tell that my questions were not understandable, that means:
    - either you are a true moron
    - either you are faking dumbness, because my questions told some truth about your behavior, that you don't want to discuss.

    Make your pick.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Make your pick.

    It’s ‘take your pick’.
    There is a remarkable quote that often applies in discussions with Jews or the sycophants that I have used to end pointless discussions –

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.

    However, I don’t think it applies here, my sense is that your stupidity is really endless? It’s 50/50 ! In any case, I’m done.

  • I’m Bonnie Faulkner. Today on Guns and Butter: Dr. Michael Hudson. Today’s show: The IMF and World Bank: Partners In Backwardness. Dr. Hudson is a financial economist and historian. He is President of the Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trend, a Wall Street Financial Analyst, and Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the...
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Low Voltage
    Holy Cow! This was published on June 26, and nobody has commented on this? This is one of the best interviews I've ever heard. The UNZ readership is obviously hopeless and is as intellectually vapid as it appears in most of the comments I've read.

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    The UNZ readership is obviously hopeless and is as intellectually vapid

    The real problem is that money and economics are almost incomprehensible. I’m a PhD engineer and I’ve devoted some time to trying to understand it and have pretty much failed. It’s all smoke and mirrors and it is very difficult to find something concrete enough for an engineer to understand ! Perkins makes it simpler (pay off the wealthy to sell a country loans that will generate big bucks for the creditor), and so does Hudson (loan to create export but not internal development and independence) but when he starts talking about manipulation of currency values a note of uncertainty and mystery appears for me. I became interested following the 2008 crash which was attributed to derivatives, currency swaps, and other intangibles …. and now the trade is these products dominates financial markets (as I understand) to the tune of trillions of $$$ per day (e.g Derivatives traded on exchanges hit a new all-time record in 2018 of more than 30 billion contracts, according to statistics from the Futures Industry Association (FIA).) So, I don’t think this article or a similar article appearing every six months is sufficient to the subject.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    @Saggy


    and now the trade is these products dominates financial markets (as I understand) to the tune of trillions of $$$ per day (e.g Derivatives traded on exchanges hit a new all-time record in 2018 of more than 30 billion contracts,
     
    As an engineer, your logical mind is capable of understanding. Keep going, don't give up.

    Yes, the money power fraudsters do indeed use smoke and mirrors to confuse and obfuscate.

    With regards to derivatives, they are synthetic "finance paper" or instruments that make claims on the money supply.

    Most derivatives are insurance rate swaps. If you do a loop equation (you are an engineer), then the money path is from taxpayers, to municipalities, to TBTF banks. TBTF banks are often primary dealers (part of the FED system).

    If interest rates go up too far, then the derivative gamble goes the other way. TBTF banks have to pay municipalities.

    Municipalities in turn, took out interest rate swaps in order to protect their muni bonds, as they don't want to go back to the voters for more money in future. The scheme is sold by wall street aligned finance as if it is insurance.

    If TBTF banks end up paying municipalities (if interest rates go up and the swap reverses), then banks will do a bail in.

    A bail in is the private bank SWAPPING their stock for your cash (M2 or other fungible assets held at said bank), with the promise of paying you back later.

    Yes, it is a shell game. Remember this, private banksters want to own the money power, and that power includes SWAPS of unlike kinds. Swaps of unlike kinds is yet another subset of usury and rents.

    Man is a rent seeking animal, and the money power must be put into a constitutional box, and then guarded by vigilant citizens with guns. The law will code for morality, and if said law doesn't, it is easy to examine.

    We see first hand what the criminal minded can do privately, as they hide in smoke filled rooms, and promulgate con's on the unwary and trusting.

    Most derivatives are some sort of paper pretending to be an asset, and also making claims.

    Since we are "international" finance now, then finance claims can have a domino effect on the international banking system, causing widespread contagion.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    @Saggy

    I suspect -- don't know for sure but suspect -- that it's not nearly as mysterious as it seems.

    The process is indeed complexified -- just as the con man in Times Square moving the walnuts around has numerous exotic and complex moves to distract and confuse -- similarly, the process is not that complicated: the best Floor Men working the bonds floor at Chicago Board of Exchange were football jocks: it takes muscle and animal spirit more than brains.

    I certainly can't figure out how to unwind the insidious process, I'm neither as smart as the King Con behind the walnut conmen nor the jocks on the CBOE, but I have to believe that exposing what is known to the extent that it is known, and gradually more and more WILL become known -- will perforce shut down the crooked game and drive the conmen out of business, or at least out of business in this particular venue.
    And given the ubiquity of the www, if people like Michael Hudson and the admirably disciplined Bonnie Faulkner continue to do what they do and expose the con, the next Mark will be forewarned.

    , @onebornfree
    @Saggy

    Saggy says: "The real problem is that money and economics are almost incomprehensible. I’m a PhD engineer and I’ve devoted some time to trying to understand it and have pretty much failed. It’s all smoke and mirrors and it is very difficult to find something concrete enough for an engineer to understand ! "

    Actually, its very easy to understand the basic principles, if you read the right books.

    However, mainstream economic theory is deliberately made to be almost incomprehensible . Most of it is sheer "scientific" "egghead" gobbledygook designed to confuse the innocent layman.

    A famous example of incomprehensibility is Keyne's "The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money" upon which [ironically enough] most modern mainstream economic theory is based. It's basically garbled gibberish, and deliberate obfuscation to disguise post-Marxian claptrap.

    The incomprehensibility is designed to confuse the layman, not enlighten him/her. The layman is thus awed into thinking he is not intelligent enough to understand the great distinguished economist , or simply becomes bored to death, and does not pursue the matter further.

    I recommend you try Henry Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson" :https://fee.org/resources/economics-in-one-lesson/ , before you completely give up on the subject.

    He also put together :

    "The Failure of the 'New Economics': An Analysis of the Keynesian Fallacies", and "The Critics of Keynesian Economics" , both excellent analyses of Keynes moronic post -Marxist blather.

    Regards, onebornfree

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    , @Anonymous
    @Saggy

    You're in the wrong place to understand how things work unless you came to have your opinions molded. Economic hit man Hudson has been simple and repetitious since the deep state increased his acting roles following the 2008 staged disaster. Results on readers are only obtained with limited complexity, very few points, and a constant harping on these same slogans in every piece that's posted. Consider the MMT cult which features Hudson as a leading confusion inducing voice. This wide reaching psyop has some of the sheep talking about tally sticks, the fish, the loaves and of course Jesus. "Abundance is at hand! - maybe if you vote for the right person. "

    Why would anyone trust the word of a career CIA agent? If any one person is broadcast all over the internet with millions of viewers that message is coming from an agent.

    , @olde reb
    @Saggy

    One different analysis of the Federal Reserve that ends with the question of what happens to money that seems to mysteriously disappear from identified accounts maintained by the FRBNY is at https://thedailycoin.org/2018/08/16/a-look-at-the-federal-reserve-through-a-different-lens/

  • To learn about me watch the award winning documentary Gilad and All That Jazz. Meet my detractors, my audience, my family and make up your mind…
  • A question for Gilad Atzmon, were Jews gassed at Auschwitz?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    @Saggy

    A really good question make him answer it.

  • Despite all the grousing and griping about his "politicizing" of the Fourth of July and "militarizing" America's birthday, President Donald Trump turned the tables on his antagonists, and pulled it off. As master of ceremonies and keynote speaker at his "Salute to America" Independence Day event, Trump was a manifest success. A president acting as...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    Pat Buchanan’s book ‘The Unnecessary War” completely rewrites the history of the beginnings of WW II and it should be required reading for every American, it is, IMO, fantastic. Once you understand the holohoax, WWII and the Nazis is the next propaganda mirage to study. I haven’t read “Suicide of an Empire” as I don’t think I need to, but that also is I believe and excellent book about the astounding decline of the US taking place before our very eyes. Logic and reason lead me to believe it would be impossible to see Buchanan shilling for Trump. But that is what he is doing, we have no leaders, not one.

    I think the 4th of July in the context of today’s US is obscene, particularly the fireworks displays. You want fireworks? The US will be happy to oblige, as long as you cannot fight back …. Baghdad 1990 – as the US is dropping tens of thousands of bombs on defenseless people in the ME every year, right now – https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/30/16925544/trump-state-union-2018-military-2017

    The military dropped nearly 40,000 bombs in 2017 compared to the around 31,000 released during Obama’s last year.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    @Saggy

    Yep. It's sad to see, coming from "Mr. Paleoconservative". The 4th is supposed to be a celebration of independence from Britain. Now we're under the rule of israel. Independence from that shitty little country would be something to celebrate.

    , @follyofwar
    @Saggy

    Buchanan's book you refer to is actually "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 20205,?" not Suicide of an Empire. It is a great, prescient book. Seems Pat is right on course with his 2025 prediction, though, given the insanity of both Zionist parties, it may happen even sooner that that.

  • 30 Jewish protesters were arrested on Sunday outside a privately managed ICE detention centre in New Jersey, which has been used to hold undocumented immigrants. Invoking the Holocaust, demonstrators described the facilities in which immigrants are being held as concentration camps and spoke of the immigrant children who have died while being held by ICE....
  • Saggy says: • Website

    The Britannica definition of holocaust:

    The systematic state-sponsored killing of six million Jewish men, women, and children and millions of others by Nazi Germany and its collaborators during World War II.

    But the holocaust did not occur. And, the owner of this website knows that. So, the dictionary definition is misleading, it defines something that is not real. Therefor the word should not be allowed on this site, or when it is allowed it should be used with quotes, to indicate that the person using the word knows that it did not happen and that the dictionary definition is in error.

    Constant repetition of the word holocaust without quotes reinforces the notion that it is real. Therefore, since unz.com is aware that the holocaust is a hoax, the word should not be used on this site without quotation marks, or better yet, replaced by a word for something that is real, holohoax.

    The protesters are not invoking the holocaust, something that did not occur, they are invoking the holohoax.

    • Replies: @paranoidgoy
    @Saggy

    Ooh, ooh, teacher, I know this one: holocaust, from Greek holos+kostos, whole+burning. Like in Dresden, Nooitgecacht, Nagasaki? Originally the portion of temple offering burnt to ashes. No dictionary I own talks about Nazis. No history book I know of denies those three REAL holocausts.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Felix Krull
    @Wally

    The Holocaust is not about the Einsatzgruppen, it's specifically about gas chambers, Factories of Death. Nobody fundamentally disputes the work of the Einsatzgruppen, at least not among serious Holocaust revisionists.

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    Nobody fundamentally disputes the work of the Einsatzgruppen, at least not among serious Holocaust revisionists.

    Complete BS. The whole Einsatzgruppen story is absurd. What happened to the bodies? The mass graves? Well, we can consult https://www.holohoax101.org/102/ to find out. led a group of Nazis who dug them up and buried them. How do we know? He confessed and unfortunately for the Jews we have his confession …. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/obliterating-the-traces-of-bodies-of-jews-killed-by-the-einsatzgruppen-june-1947

    During my visit in August I myself observed the burning of bodies in a mass grave near Kiev. This grave was about 55 m. long, 3 m. wide and 2½ m. deep. After the top had been removed the bodies were covered with inflammable material and ignited. It took about two days until the grave burned down to the bottom. I myself observed that the fire had glowed down to the bottom. After that the grave was filled in and the traces were now practically obliterated.

    Can it be any more absurd?

    And how’s this for irony? At the very same time, the summer of ’43, while Blobel was digging up the bodies at the Babi Yar non-existent mass graves, only 100 km away, in Vinnitsa, the Nazis had discovered a real mass grave of Ukrainians killed by the NKVD. The invited in an international team of forensics experts, just at they did at Katyn, and bodies were excavated and examined – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnytsia_massacre

    • Replies: @Felix Krull
    @Saggy

    The whole Einsatzgruppen story is absurd.

    By fundamentally undisputed, I meant that there did in fact exist Einsatzgruppen, unlike gas chambers.

  • So it’s been an exciting few weeks for Antifa and the rest of the neoliberal Resistance. OK, they haven’t yet managed to overthrow the Putin-Nazi occupation government (hereinafter “POG”), but they’ve definitely got “the Fash” on the run. “Fascism” hysteria is spreading like wildfire. Liberal Twitter mobs are out for blood. At this point, it’s...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    Language is important, and the demonization of Nazis, along with the holohoax, are the foundation of the Jewish world view that dominates the American mind.

    The reality is that the Nazis were the only serious opposition the Anglo-Zionist empire has faced in the last 100 years.

    The Nazis were the good guy in WW II. The west was poking Hitler in 1939 just the way the US is poking Iran now. Read ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or How to Make a War About Nothing’, written in 1936 by Wyndham Lewis …

    [MORE]

    Nationalism may be superseded by the issue between different forms of political structure, between parliamentarism, fascism, and Bolshevism. …. Parliamentarism and Bolshevism seem to feel a remarkable affinity for one another, if for no other reason than that they are both consumed with an equal hatred of fascism.

    No British statesman has ever desired a war with Germany. But they have apparently come to regard themselves as committed to a policy which is violently determined to rid Europe of Hitler. And they are well aware that that cannot be effected without the risk of another world-war. It is not so much ‘fascist dictatorship’ that excites them — for after all they left Mussolini in complete peace for a decade. Neither does Dictatorship , in itself, excite them so much as all that — even accompanied by a permanent Reign of Terror and the massacre of millions of people. For Soviet Russia has been left undisturbed. No, it can only be something about the internal regime of Adolf Hitler that excites in them this implacable mood.

    The Franco-Soviet pact has been ratified and it is highly probable that a Rumano-Soviet pact, on the lines of the military pact between the Soviet and Czechoslovakia, will be signed in the near future. The Austrian Government (which represents a fantastically small fraction of the people of Austria) seems to be moving towards an entente with the Little Entente. So the game of ‘encirclement’ goes on: and all these arrangements — carried on in every case over the heads and usually in contradiction to the wishes of the people — are made possible, and constantly stimulated by British and French gold. The remarks which I have quoted from the Morning Post mean, in plain language, that Great Britain is about to arm the Soviet against Germany. (Marshal Tukachevski stopped behind in England after the funeral of King George to go round the British armament factories to pick his tanks and guns.) There have constantly been rumours of a fifty million pounds British loan to France. That, too, in plain language, is Great Britain arming France against ‘the Hun’

    There is one country where the Englishman is certain of a warm welcome: there is one country whose government never ceases to proffer friendship, and to be accommodating and polite, and that is Germany. Year in and year out, like a love-sick supplicant, Herr Hitler pays his court to the haughty Britannia. Every insult that can be invented even by the resourceful Mr. Churchill is tamely swallowed, every rebuff of Mr. Baldwin’s, every sneer of Mr. Eden, is meekly accepted, by this pertinacious suitor!

    Read ‘The Unnecessary War’ by Buchanan. Watch this clip from a speech by Hitler, and read the video description to see what followed (and let me know if you can a vid of the entire speech)… title of the vid … “Hitler mocks Roosevelt” …


    Video Linkhttps://i.imgur.com/CytWSpG.png

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
    @Saggy

    *SIGH* Saggy, you speak the truth.

  • Q: When did the BBC become openly biased? A: The BBC has always been biased towards Israel, and its bias has been well documented. The reasons for this bias have long been the subject of serious academic studies, the best known of which is Greg Philo’s and Mike Berry’s More Bad News from Israel. In...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    Who is Atzmon kidding, the entire western press is a propaganda outlet for Israel, and everybody knows it. But that’s only part of the problem, every western govt. is promotes Israeli propaganda, that is, the EU and the US, and what’s worse, academia in the west is controlled by Israel.

    For example, EVERY professor of history in the US is facilitates the holohoax, either actively by teaching it as fact, or passively by doing doing to dispel the preposterous and obvious lies.

  • A friend of mine recently commented that if the current trend to reduce the study of history in schools to easily digestible politically correct soundbites that are being successfully pushed by social justice warriors continues, we will soon be limited to discussing how horrible slavery was, the Stonewall Inn riots and the so-called holocaust. Indeed,...
  • This video ….


    Video Link
    begins –

    The holocaust is a preposterous hoax that is unsupported by any physical evidence. It is made up of literally millions of lies, but it all rests on one ‘big lie’.

    The hoax has three main components –
    1. The Nazis planned to exterminate the Jews.
    2. The Nazis built gas chambers to exterminate the Jews and disguised them as shower rooms.
    3. The Nazis killed six million Jews.

    Each component of the hoax is categorically false and completely without evidence.
    1. There was no Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews or anyone else, and no evidence of one has ever been found.
    2. The gas chambers disguised as shower rooms are pure phantasmagoria, and there is not a shred of physical evidence for them.
    3. The number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and it is well documented that the Nazis aggressively investigate any crime in the camps.

    That is the hoax, and the reality

    The big lie is the photos and film footage that are shown of Jewish prisoners who had been gassed by the Nazis. The truth is that all the photos and film were taken after the war by British and US soldiers, and showed prisoners of all nationalities and religions who had died of tyhpus at the very last weeks of the war, primarily at Belsen where 35,000 died, 10,000 after the camp had been liberated by the British. Further, the Nazis had done everything in their power to combat the epidemic.

    The video documents all the above. To understand the holohoax you must study it.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
  • @exiled off mainstreet
    From my Ph. D. research and seeing survivors with tattoos I am convinced that the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations, but I know that Jewish people were not the only targets. The actual number exterminated is open to interpretation, but a great many were obviously exterminated. Proof that something happened can be seen in comparisons of the ethnic makeup of territories before and after Nazi occupation. Over 3 Million Soviet POW's were also liquidated in Nazi camps and hundreds of thousands of other non-Jewish people were also liquidated.

    I agree with Dr. Giraldi that these historical incidents, factual or exaggerated, have been exploited to create "get out of jail free cards" for Israeli actions that too closely resemble proven Nazi crimes. Gaza is a sort of ghetto-concentration camp reminiscent of documented Nazi crimes in Poland and elsewhere. Whatever the extent the facts fully support the received view, I agree with the implication that feelings of guilt for Nazi excesses were central to the creation of Israel and think that the Finkelstein book mentioned is a valuable corrective.

    I also find it outrageous that any sort of questioning or revisionism is considered taboo despite the traditional existence of constitutional guarantees of free speech, which have been seriously curtailed in recent years. I also deplore identity politics and forced political correctness, recalling George Carlin's view that political correctness was nothing more than polite fascism As for Dr. Latson, he obviously made a serious mistake in the present environment and in the context of events at his school, and I am sure he will be sacked. If traditional rule of law still obtained he would probably be able to continue on as a teacher, but, recalling my studies of the rise of fascism, a new version of it appears to have gradually developed in the "west" during the last 30 years or so.

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    From my Ph. D. research and seeing survivors with tattoos I am convinced that the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations

    So encountering an old woman with a number tattoo proves Nazis exterminated Jews? Not that there were prisoners of war, but that Jews were systematically slaughtered?

    Wow, there’s a logical leap of faith …

    As far as Ph.D. research, I’m not sure it has the cachet you think it does.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • LOL: Saggy
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    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid


    encountering an old woman with a number tattoo proves Nazis exterminated Jews
     
    If you are going to kill someone, why waste time tattooing a number on their arm?

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    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    His name should actually be “exiled off brainstreet”.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @JohnnyD
    With all due respect, I think Norman Finkelstein's.views are being distorted in this article. Finkelstein never questions whether or not the Holocaust occurred. Indeed, he promotes the work of Raul Hillberg, who Finkelstein views as a serious scholar. Also, he always states that the suffering of his parents in the Holocaust is what motivates him to defend the rights of Palestinians. Finkelstein does indeed go after Jewish groups and the State of Israel for using the Holocaust as an idelogical weapon, and he does attack Ellie Weisel as a fraud and hyoprite, but he has never questioned the standard narrative that a systematic extermination of European Jewry occurred during World War II.

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    Finklestein’s story is one of the most remarkable ….. from this video ….
    Norm Finkelstein, at U of Waterloo

    My father was in Auschwitz
    My mother was in Majdanek
    Every single member of my family, on my father’s side and on my mother’s side, was exterminated.

    Why is the story remarkable? Finklestein was born in 1953 !

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    @Saggy

    What's your point? After the War, Finkelstein's parents married and moved to America. Eventually , they had children in the 1950s. He's never claimed he was born in a concentration camp, if that's your point.

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    , @Wally
    @Saggy

    The fact is that there is not a shred of proof for his absurd assertions.


    Why do some people want 6M Jews to be dead? Revisionists bring life affirming good news, 6M Jews were not murdered. Jews should be elated.
     
  • @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    @Sparkon

    You morons seem to imagine that there are two possibilities, and two only:

    1. That there was a Holocaust exactly as described, which killed six million Jews

    Or

    2. There was no such thing at all, and it is all a myth.

    There are any number of possibilities in between, including a deliberate mass murder of less than six million, a mix of deliberate and accidental deaths of less than six million, deliberate deaths of a low number and a relatively high number of accidental deaths, etc. Furthermore, the deliberate deaths could still have been accomplished without gas chambers by simple shooting (such as the Einsatzgruppen did at such sites as Babi Yar). Nor does the absence of "six million skeletons" prove anything either way because there is absolutely no need to accept the six million figure merely on say so, and the idea that skeletons could not simply have been incinerated or bulldozed to fragments can't be dismissed because there has been no independent research permitted into the matter.

    Meaning both you Holocaust deniers and the Holocaust official story industry are babbling about what you have no proof of either way.

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    Meaning both you Holocaust deniers and the Holocaust official story industry are babbling about what you have no proof of either way.

    You have to study the holohoax, you can’t sit back from afar and make idiotic statements like the above. YOU HAVE TO STUDY THE SUBJECT.

    It is trivially easy to demonstrate the hoax. E.g. Elie Wiesel’s book ‘Night’ … he was in Auschwitz for a year when the Nazis were supposedly killing 10,000 Jews per day in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms, and ‘Night’ describes his experiences. He doesn’t mention gas chambers, he does mention taking a shower several times, purposefully for disinfection. He writes that the Nazis killed the Jews by tossing them alive into burning pits, one for children, one for adults. The first director of the USHMM, a Nobel Prize winner, is an obvious degenerate liar. His lies have the full authority of Yad Vashem and the USHMM. They are all pathological liars and there is proof right there.

  • Holo-deniers are bonkers. There is not much to discuss here. They’re like flat-earthers, just more amusing.

    However, there are some things I see rarely mentioned…

    They, holo-deniers, are mostly from North America & Western Europe. They see all this warfare at the Eastern front as something exotic, strange, alien & incomprehensible. It seems they are incapable of comprehending reality of that part of war (which was the most savage war after Mongol invasions). Instead, they juggle with some half-truths & fictions, long since debunked as Soviet & American propaganda, for their own purposes. Yet- no serious man (or historian) thinks that extermination of European Jewry was a myth, a story invented for sinister Jewish purposes. For instance, I don’t see a serious effort to debate numbers of Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, …. who perished in that war (nor Germans or Japanese, for that matter). Simple demography refutes holo-deniers.
    You won’t find normal people in Central & Eastern who deny that Jews, their neighbors, had been exterminated, one way or another. Figures of victims vary, but not that much – perhaps 20%, not more. Then, it is extremely difficult to ascertain how many people, by nationality, perished in those vast swaths of earth from Poland to the Urals. Further east, when we come to Cambodia & China- it is next to impossible.

    For Jews, a few things are evident: the shoah & Auschwitz are their central anti-corrosives in the modern world. Old faith has, except in pockets, all but vanished & most ethnic Jews in Western world don’t believe in that set of tales. So, they’re assimilating & the Auschwitz – as the state of mind – presents an emotional rallying point; a huge asset indeed. Just- it seems even that doesn’t work in keeping them together: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-s-education-minister-says-intermarriage-is-like-a-second-holocaust-1.7486330

    Last year, Agriculture Minister Uri Ariel, member of the National Union – one of the member parties to the Union of Right-Wing Parties, sent a letter to employees at his ministry discussing the “assimilation Holocaust.” According to Ariel, “During the Holocaust, we’ve lost about six million Jews. Without at all comparing the two, we’re losing a part of our people to assimilation.”
    Fellow National Union member Eli Ben Dahan said in 2014, while he was deputy minister for religious affairs, that intermarriage are “a silent Holocaust. We must remember that the Jewish people, unfortunately, has gone through a Holocaust. It has been diminishing over the past century … In Europe we have as much as 80 percent intermarriages; in the United States it’s 66 percent. It’s horrible.”

    Hard cheese, old chap! I understand the will to continuity of any group, but visibly a non-recognizable minority is destined to vanish in assimilation- except those who emigrate to their nation-state.

    Arthur Koestler was, after all, right- Jews in the Western (I mean, “white”) world, who want to remain Jews, should emigrate to Israel. Others will be inevitably swallowed in their host countries. Jewish nationalists may get apoplectic fits, they may rise hundreds of millions $, consecrate I don’t know how many monuments – yet, all those efforts are limited.

    Are they completely ineffective?

    Not, in my opinion. Jewy-Jewying drama queens with all their baggage of emotional blackmail, self-centredness & identity-paranoia does have some effect among natives, Euro-people. They get riled up against excessive Jewy whining (similar to ex-wives’ behavior during divorce process) & this may cause some local Jews either to circle the wagons or to move to Israel.

    But, generally- it doesn’t work. You can’t base your identity on atrocities you’ve been victims of. It is not sustainable.

    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Truth3
    @Bardon Kaldian

    GTH.

    , @John Regan
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Holo-deniers are bonkers. There is not much to discuss here. They’re like flat-earthers, just more amusing..
     
    I think it depends on just what you mean by "Holocaust Denial" in this context. It's pretty well established that something bad happened to large numbers of Jews, and that the Germans had something to do with it. For example, anyone who wants to deny large-scale executions of Jews by firing squad as part of the Wehrmacht's counterinsurgency campaign in the occupied areas of the Soviet Union has his work cut out for him, given how well documented this is. But it's also blindingly obvious that ever since the war, various special interests have expended tremendous amounts of effort (and money) to distort and exaggerate the authentic core of historical truth into a mythic narrative, the details of which are by no means always unassailable. Originally, this was done by the Allies (and the USSR in particular) to demonize the Germans, and in more recent days by Jewish activists and organizations to score points in the victim olympics.

    To see that this is true, all you need to do is to compare an older mainstream history book (say, from the 1950s) with a recent one. They tell very different stories about what we now call the Holocaust, even if both agree that a lot of people died.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Ilya G Poimandres
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Here is the problem:

    Those that do not intentionally peddle lies (they may be wrong, but that is a different issue) discuss things along this line, only dealing with the story:

    What?
    Where, when?
    Who?
    Why?
    How?

    The intentional deceiver attack along the line:

    Who? (within the story)
    Who? (with respect to their debating opposite)
    Why? (with respect to their debating opposite)
    .
    (usually it doesn't get beyond this because the truth seekers debate 'what', don't engage the ad hominem speculation, and one hissy fit return serve later, they are out, but..)
    .
    Why/how/when/where/what?

    Your whole point is on 'who', there is no counterpoint to Eisenhower's, Churchill's, De-Gaulle's silence on the issue - even though they should have had the info. No discounting the coke shipment statistics for the crematoria, no discussion of ground water levels and the impossibility of burials (or even discarding of bones), no explanation why Germans neither recorded their acts in documentary fashion, or didn't just throw the helpless 6 million off a cliff (the Mongols, Chinese, Turks would have certainly found a cheaper way to kill 6 million), etc, etc.

    We, the revisionists, discuss 'what' first, and 'who' somewhere down the line.

    Anyone that pokes the speaker first, fears the words of the speaker. Simple. An intelligent person does not fear false information - it is false.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    , @Commentator Mike
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Holocaust deniers on UR are the funniest people ever. They spend half their time trying to prove that the Jews deserved to be holocausted and the other half denying that Hitler and his Nazis tried to holocaust them. They have no balls to say they deserved it and they got it. So what good was their idol Hitler they praise to high heaven if he couldn't do the main job he claimed he would do? They want a second coming of Hitler to rid us of the Jews when even the first one couldn't do it. How can anyone take them seriously? Good for a laugh and that's about it.

    Replies: @Zumbuddi, @Jacques Sheete, @Wally, @Ilya G Poimandres

    , @Hamlet's Ghost
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "But, generally- it doesn’t work. You can’t base your identity on atrocities you’ve been victims of. It is not sustainable."

    They've been sustaining it for over 3,000 years.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I remember being pulled up decades ago by a Jewish barrister, later a Supreme Court judge, when, in a context I completely forget, I mentioned that I had read that the figure of Jews murdered was 4 million. No, 6 million, I was told firmly. I was never interested in pursuing the details. Perhaps it seemed bad manners to follow up the casually imparted information that a young Jewish lawyer friend's mother had her Auschwicz tattooed number on her arm still or the story that being blue eye'd and blonde she had been able to be sheltered by sympathetic Poles for most of the war.

    In response to the beating up of consciousness of the Holocaust, Shoa and Schindler's List I settled for the view that it was the greatest crime in history because it was done by the nation of Brahms, Goethe and Beethoven - our own civilised best. Now that UR has caused me to focus on much more of the detail I don't resile entirely from that but am more inclined to inquire fearfully what can lead to such degradation. After all Hitler's hatred of Jews and his and Goebbels, and others', whipping up hatred of Jews is well enough documented to allow one to say that getting rid of Jews (with some ambivalence about the assimilated), at least from German controlled Europe, could be regarded as one of the war aims. (Indeed it is easy to see how Himmler, to objections about misuse of resources, could have answered that, apart from getting needed slave labour from starving Jews, the deportation and death - by whatever means - of non working Jews - was at least fulfilling one of Germany's war aims to the lasting benefit of Germany).

    I thoroughly recommend the book Ron Unz mentioned in his recent article: "Unfinished War" by Arther Bryant, as a contribution to understanding Germany's special problems in relationships between native Aryan Germans and Jews.

    FWIW I remain of the view that the deportations of Jews long after the Palestinian, Madagascar and eastern Russian solutions had become impossible, is virtually impossible to explain except as part of a program to substantially eliminate the Jewish populations and expropriate their property (though there all sorts of anomalies to explain like the numbers of Mischlingen in the Wehrmacht and, if true, one third of German real property still, in 1938, being owned by Jews that require one to accept that some Nazis combined pragmatism with fanaticism). There seems to be no basis on which the German deportations of Jews and separation of families can be equated to the rounding up and incarceration of Japanese Americans on the West Coast on partly specious security grounds.

    Replies: @Saggy

    There seems to be no basis on which the German deportations of Jews and separation of families can be equated to the rounding up and incarceration of Japanese Americans on the West Coast on partly specious security grounds.

    ??? See rabbi Yosef ben Porat explain ‘Why Did Hitler Hate the Jews’….. this is why Hitler wanted to expel the Jews …


    Video Link
    Plus international Jewry declared economic war on Germany in 1933 …
    The Jews were far from being model citizens.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    @Saggy


    ??? See rabbi Yosef ben Porat explain ‘Why Did Hitler Hate the Jews’….. this is why Hitler wanted to expel the Jews …
     
    The video was well worth the precious 8 minutes I spent watching. Many thanks.
    , @S
    @Saggy

    Interesting video with the rabbi.

    He's illustrating the point that there's an ongoing struggle with those that accept that there are actual historical distinct people's, ethnicities, races, and cultures, worthy of preservation, which he boldly indicates he does, and those who refuse to accept that and wish to 'mix' away everyone and everything.

    Though he doesn't say it, the latter types often seem to want to have their cake and eat it too..ie 'mixing' in just about every way, while simultaneously retaining the benefits of some shell of their former identity, which ultimately doesn't seem tenable.

    The world's a big place; seems there could be some place with plentiful land and resources allotted for those who don't care at all about the preservation of the various races and cultures, where they could mix away with abandon. It could be called 'New Pangea'.

    I've never yet come across one of these 'internationalist' 'progressive' types who would accept such a thing, though, from what I can tell.

    They seem to want it all, which in the end, will probably mean that they'll have nothing at all.

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz

    , @Wizard of Oz
    @Saggy

    I'm looking forward to viewing the video but all I get is

    www.bitchute.com’s server IP address could not be found.

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    Replies: @Saggy

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  • Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Historicus
    @Fran Taubman

    Problem here is that the camp was built on landfill over a swamp. Deep pits would quickly fill with groundwater. Also the trees that were cut down to provide the fuel in the story were not seasoned as firewood must be in order to be combustible. In a modern crematorium twenty gallons of fuel are needed to reduce a human body, which is 90% water, to ash. The idea of producing the same result with human body fat is beyond absurd. The Sonderkommado narrative is that they dragged the corpses along one by one with metal utensils shaped like canes, instead of placing them on a wheeled device of some sort to reduce the enormous task of moving so much weight day after day after day. One also wonders how a dozen single crematoria were built instead of one large blast furnace, given what we hear so much about German efficiency.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    Prove it didn’t happen? You cannot where did all the missing people go. You come into a station, you get off on a platform (photos galore proof this) a vast amount of people go one way, some people go another way. The vast amount of people go into a building where there are ovens with slabs, smoke stacks etc. There were ovens built by a company.
    None of the vast amount of people who went into that building come out. Where did they go.
    You start the next day and repeat from when the train arrives at the station.
    It is ABC. There rest is the rest. Why have ovens. There were 45 ovens. Why have rooms with chambers? Why have piles of clothes and hair.
    Liberators from all over the world liberated those camps and saw with their own eyes. Russians, Americans. No one can make that up. The Germans never decided it. If Germany was falsely accused why not prove it, they did not. Worrying about ground water etc. is ridiculous. IT HAPPENED.
    5 million Jews disappeared before EYES OF THEIR FAMILY.
    They used petrol for fuel.
    Ask the makers of the Ovens why they were designed the way they were. They broke down constantly from over usage and heat.

    • Agree: FB
    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Germanicus
    @Fran Taubman


    Prove it didn’t happen?
     
    Are you a bit thick?
    You people are the claiming side, you people admit there is no physical evidence to prove your claim. you people run an inquisition against truth, research and speech.
    You people have to prove, you are the claiming side, because only morons try to prove a negative.

    In essence, you demonstrate again and again, that you are really not the brightest bulb in the jewish menorah, because you insist that a negative is proven. Totally absurd, bonkers, a bit mentally retarded.

    You in fact turn around the legal principle "innocent until proven guilty".
    Hence your jewish star chamber "justice" of "truth being no defense".

    Replies: @Germanicus, @Fran Taubman, @Franklin Ryckaert, @FB

    , @Rich
    @Fran Taubman

    It's very difficult to face facts that contradict sincerely held beliefs. But you can't argue the physics of the matter. The nazis didn't have the infrastructure to cremate, or gas, that many people. It would be an impossible project. You must also understand that many Germans, Poles, Russians and others lost their whole families, too, don't you? Such is the terrible cost of war. No one is saying many Jews didn't die in WW2, it's just that the holocaust narrative doesn't stand up to vigorous investigation. That's why some countries have passed laws forbidding research into the issue. There would be no reason to forbid research if the truth landed everyone at the accepted narrative.

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    , @Truth3
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran-a-Linda Taubman...

    You get nastier and more hysterical (((Jewish traits))) as the 'discussion' continues on.

    You do realize others notice this... right?

    Time to change to a new alias Fran... er... Linda.

    , @FB
    @Fran Taubman

    Well here we go again...a good and necessary article by Mr Giraldi sets off the moon howlers here that want to pretend that one of the most barbaric [and most thoroughly documented] genocides in the history of humanity never actually happened...

    Let's start with the story of the unfortunate school principal...Dr Latson...first off, I sympathize with the man because I'm sure he meant no harm...he was perhaps somewhat irritated at the school board pushing ever more Holocaust 'education' down his school's throat...add in an annoying parent that thinks a principal in charge of hundreds of students has nothing better to do than be bombarded with emails...

    That said...his written reply about 'believing' in the Holocaust was incredibly dumb...any public figure...god forbid an educator...that questions the sacred dogma of the Holocaust narrative is simply toast in the USA of 2019...

    Now as for Norman Finkelstein...he is a thorough and careful academic who has done an important service...the thorough exposure of the exploitation of the Jewish genocide...now before we go further we must note that Finkelstein is NOT denying the genocide took place...he is in fact a child of parents that each lost all of their respective family in the genocide...

    What he is saying is that the subject should be open to serious academic inquiry...not treated like a holy totem...the other part of the Holocaust 'industry' is its misuse for the justification of the criminal acts of Israel...which are possible only due to fanatical US support...

    In this respect Mr Giraldi's writing is very much needed...the US has become a totalitarian society with the unscrupulous exploitation of the Jewish genocide...and the unconstitutional actions that have followed...

    Of course, this doesn't mean there was no genocide...there most certainly was...and it was in fact the most depraved occurrence of human barbarity, perhaps unmatched in history...all of this was discovered firsthand by liberating Russian and Allied troops...to now 80 years after the fact sit here and fart nonsense that has zero basis in any historical fact...is in fact quite pathetic...

    Also pathetic is that these losers worship one homosexual nutbar named Adolf Hitler...who proved what a loser he was by choosing to blow his silly brains out...instead of leading his troops to an honorable surrender as von Paulus did at Stalingrad...

    I have often made the point that Hitler was a curse for Germany...a worse leader would not have been possible...it was as if he was planted to lead Germany to destruction...

    Greg Hallet's 2006 book Hitler Was a British Agent documents the fact that Hitler spent a year in Britain [1912-13]...which is documented in his sister-in-law's biography...Gallery says that year in Britain was spent getting indoctrinated at the British psy-ops war school at Tavistock...


    Hallett's theory explains why Hitler, supposedly the arch enemy of Jewish bankers, acted like he didn't know the Rothschilds controlled
    England and America, when this was common knowledge.

    If Hitler had been for real, he would have plucked out the Rothschild's heart, the City of London before taking on Russia.
     

    Eminently logical...as filled in here by Henry Makow...

    But back to the Jewish genocide...it's abundantly clear that the Nazi leadership were clinical psychopaths...psychiatry tells us that about three to five percent of the general population are sociopaths...so there was plenty of 'material' to choose from to fill the ranks of the Schutzstaffel...

    Here is Rheinhard Heydrich...does he look normal to you...?

    https://i.postimg.cc/FFYzwZDQ/Bundesarchiv-Bild-146-1969-054-16-Reinhard-Heydrich.jpg

    What about 'deputy fuhrer Rudolf Hess...?

    https://i.postimg.cc/jSbjwrKs/rudolf-hess.jpg

    The fact is these dirtbags murdered millions of children, women, old folks and everyone in between...many of them Jewish but millions more Russian, Czech and Polish...among others...

    Europe was a civilized land in those days...arguably much more so than today...to even think of rounding up hundreds of thousands of citizens...including children...putting them on trains...often packed into cattle cars...and shipping them off to Poland and other sites is simply inexcusable in any kind of way that is comprehensible to a normal human...

    These monsters of history were thankfully destroyed...and part of the value of keeping the memory of the Jewish genocide alive is to keep humanity from ever going down that road again...

    Does that mean that everything about the Holocaust narrative is exactly true...no it does not...for instance Elie Wiesel was an obvious fraud...it is disheartening that his 'books' are forced down our children's throats...

    But it doesn't change the monstrous nature of the Nazis and their barbarism...

    Replies: @Germanicus, @Ilyana_Rozumova, @Genrick Yagoda, @Carolyn Yeager, @Fox

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz
    @Truth3


    You should take a look at the controlled comment section after the article…

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/sunday-morning-at-auschwitz/

    Shocking that nobody… and I mean nobody… challenges the falsehoods and propaganda that riddle that article.

    Mr. Unz, look what they have done to your magazine.
     
    Yes, it's pretty unfortunate. Just in case you hadn't seen it, here's the article I published last year about how I got purged from TAC:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/why-the-american-conservative-purged-its-own-publisher/

    Replies: @Saggy

    I read your comments on being ousted as publisher, which include …

    An important aspect of TAC’s domestic policy agenda still consisted of strident criticism of non-white immigrants and their supposed incompatibility with American society, a position I found distasteful or even ridiculous, but a cross I was willing to bear on behalf of my far more crucial foreign policy concerns.

    Are you still so sanguine about non-white immigration into the US? Europe? ….. Really?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Saggy


    Are you still so sanguine about non-white immigration into the US?
     
    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-building-a-wall-and-hispanic-crime/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/an-open-letter-to-the-alt-right-and-others/

    Replies: @Saggy

  • @Wizard of Oz
    @Saggy

    I'm looking forward to viewing the video but all I get is

    www.bitchute.com’s server IP address could not be found.

    Can anyone help?

    Replies: @Saggy

    http://www.bitchute.com’s server IP address could not be found.

    The link is good …. so I googled server ip address could not be found ….
    https://blog.pcrisk.com/windows/12603-how-to-fix-server-dns-address-could-not-be-found-error

    Is this the problem?

  • Saggy says: • Website

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing about extermination.

    Deniers have a tendency to talk about what did not happen, but not what did. What did happen is that the Nazis kept meticulous records in the camps, at Auschwitz the records included a doctor signed death certificates for each prisoner that died, and monthly summaries now known as ‘death books’.

    The Soviets captured these records and immediately ‘disappeared’ them, so they were unknown to the world until 1989 when they were revealed to the world. You can read about them here …. http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/about-the-available-data/death-records/sterbebucher
    and they are now available….There are three points, 1 – there is extensive documentation of what went on in the camps, 2 – the documentation shows that there was no holocaust, and 3 – the allies hid the documents. The documents captured by the US/British were hidden at Bad Arolsen in Germany and were released to restricted access in Germany in 2013 – https://booksandideas.net/Opening-the-Nazi-archives-at-Bad.html

    So while the holocaust did not happen, discussing what did not happen is only part of the story. The holohoax, i.e. a systematic campaign of lies to convince the world that the holocaust is real, did happen, and it can be documented. The holocaust did not happen, the holohoax did happen and it is ongoing.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  • @Ron Unz
    @Saggy


    Are you still so sanguine about non-white immigration into the US?
     
    https://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-building-a-wall-and-hispanic-crime/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/an-open-letter-to-the-alt-right-and-others/

    Replies: @Saggy

    Wait a minute, you did not answer the question.

    Are you still so sanguine about non-white immigration into the US? Europe?

    So, first, you totally ignored non-white immigration into Europe. Let me bring you up to date ….
    With Open Gates: The Forced Collective Suicide of European Nations

    Governments adopt UN global migration pact to help ‘prevent suffering
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/12/1028041

    UN senior migration official Ms. Louise Arbour, tasked with overseeing the process, applauded the adoption, calling it “wonderful occasion, really a historic moment and a really great achievement for multilateralism.”

    The Kalergi Plan – White Genocide

    Second, you reduced the question to one of Hispanic crime, but that’s only part of the issue. What the issue boils down to is racism, is it really as https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism says

    Since the late 20th century the notion of biological race has been recognized as a cultural invention, entirely without scientific basis.

    Or is that complete idiocy that is promoted as part of a century long war against the white races by the usual suspects? In case you are wondering:
    Goy Guide to World History (4 Frankfurt School)

    The ‘alt-right’ doesn’t oppose third world immigration (just) because the immigrants tend to criminality, they oppose it because they are racially inferior. That is the issue.

    • Replies: @S
    @Saggy

    What the 'cheap labor'/mass immigration thing has always been about in reality..ie divide and conquer, divide and rule, all whilst making a pretty penny from the value of the labor being systematically stolen from the wage slaves (ie the so called 'cheap labor').

    From pg 4 of a 2003 academic professor written by two professors:

    ..'the immigrants usually serve three main functions: cheap labor to replace native groups; settlement on the ‘frontier’ (periphery); and control over the natives and their land (Stasiulis and Yuval-Davis. These dynamics generally result in the maintenance of hegemony..'

    https://www.academia.edu/2116622/Between_urban_and_national_45_Political_mobilization_among_46_Mizrahim_in_Israel_s_development_4847_towns_

    , @NoseytheDuke
    @Saggy

    Wow! With Open Gates is certainly an eye opener for me. I know it was a bad situation but I really had no idea. I would urge everyone to watch it. Thanks.

    , @turtle
    @Saggy

    Three words:
    Shoot to kill.

    , @turtle
    @Saggy

    By Jove, I believe we now have the solution to Fermi's Paradox.

    I now present turtle's first theorem:

    On any given planet, the most intelligent individuals of the dominant species inevitably cease to breed, as they realize there is no point to existence.
    Consequently , the less intelligent of the dominant species inevitably take over the planet, since they are incapable of sophisticated reasoning, but understand that "sex is fun," and are ignorant of, as well as hostile to, contraception. They spend their final days searching for quasi-intelligent individuals to scam, and wishing for good cargo.
    Thus, there is no interstellar space travel, as that would be as far above the capability of such organisms as railroad construction would be for ants.

    , @Paul C.
    @Saggy

    The Luciferian's are facilitating mass Islamic immigration into the West in order to destroy it and Christianity. Out of the ashes of WW3 will rise their Anti-Christ and a One World Religion which is Luciferianism.

    https://www.disclose.tv/in-1870-illuminati-grand-wizard-albert-pike-predicted-how-the-three-world-wars-will-start-315765

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=580&v=0dXD2H0m74g

    I don't agree with every claim in the video (like planes hitting the twin towers on 9/11, etc...) but the general premise appears to be consistent with what is happening in the world. Nearly every false flag or hoax terrorist event involves "fanatical Muslims" shouting "Allah Akbar". All puppet government leaders (Masons) are allowing and even encouraging invaders into their countries, Merkel being a prime example but she's just one of many. The politician's generally don't have power. Power is held by those who have 100% control of the financial system (Central Banks) and thus the media and government's as well.

    It appears that Albert Pike's prognostications, similar to the narrative in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion', are being carried out in real time.

    Hopefully with the help of divine intervention, we can thwart the blueprint of evil.

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Jacques Sheete
    @Germanicus


    They killed more Germans “after” the war than Germany lost during the entire war, 12 million starved to death from 1945-1948.
     
    That was the second time. Many were starved and suffered malnourishment after WW1 as well.


    Speaking of Hitchcock,


    Hitchcock project F3080
    [The former POWs] agreed that the cattle cars were filled with captured German soldiers who were infected with typhus and dysentery. They were in fact unwitting extras in a movie being made by Alfred Hitchcock, the Hollywood horror-film specialist. He had been awarded a contract to make a movie about concentration camps for the Nuremberg tribunal. At night the dead prisoners would be unloaded at Buchenwald, Dachau and other concentration camps by those who were still alive. Hitchcock would then film them, depicting the heaps of corpses as victims of German atrocities. A large number of corpses were dumped at Buchenwald at night, and next day the citizens of Weimar were forced to walk past the heaps of rotting corpses and smell the sickening stench. Some of them actually believed the American propaganda, that the corpses had been concentration-camp inmates. It was all filmed as part of Hitchcock's movie. Afterwards the corpses were shoved into mass graves in the vicinity. That too was part of the script. This is the explanation that the two former officers of the US Army gave me concerning the trainload of dying German prisoners that I witnessed on June 16, 1945.

    -Nemo Anonymous, -Auschwitz, Buchenwald and Alfred Hitchcock's First Horror Movie, From the Memoirs of a German Soldier
     

    In case the imbedded link won't work, here's the link.:http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/4/4/3195

    Note to mod: I tested the link, it works. In the imbedded one, "no follow" keeps getting inserted.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Speaking of Hitchcock,

    Hitchcock’s movie was shelved for 50 years, probably because it accurately documents the typhus epidemic that killed 30,000 prisoners at Belsen at the end of the war, 10,000 after the camp was liberated. You can now see it here ….

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/memory-of-the-camps/

    The film is discussed at length in this denier film ….



    Video Link

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Corvinus
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "That’s the subject of the original post."

    But the Holocaust is a fact, not a belief.

    "Argument by assertion is funniest argument."

    The Holocaust is not an assertion, it is a historical event that occurred. The documentary evidence is overwhelming.

    Replies: @SolontoCroesus, @Anon, @Saggy

    The Holocaust is not an assertion, it is a historical event that occurred. The documentary evidence is overwhelming.

    The documentary evidence is complete and unequivocal, and that is why the allies hid it immediately after the war, see post 437 reprinted below ….

    The Soviets captured these records and immediately ‘disappeared’ them, so they were unknown to the world until 1989 when they were revealed to the world. You can read about them here …. http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/about-the-available-data/death-records/sterbebucher
    and they are now available….There are three points, 1 – there is extensive documentation of what went on in the camps, 2 – the documentation shows that there was no holocaust, and 3 – the allies hid the documents. The documents captured by the US/British were hidden at Bad Arolsen in Germany and were released to restricted access in Germany in 2013 – https://booksandideas.net/Opening-the-Nazi-archives-at-Bad.html

  • @Parfois1
    @Rurik


    Had there been no genocidal Bolsheviks running Russia, hell bent on Old Testament atrocities writ large all over the region, then Uncle Adolf would have been happy to leave them alone.
     
    I understand the Neo-Nazi propaganda needs to justify Uncle Adolph's rampage through Europe as a pre-emptive strike to prevent the emergence of a threat to Germany. That is also the rationale of the neo-cons (mostly obeying Jewish's orders) directing the US wars of aggression in order to prevent the emergence of a rival after the dissolution of the USSR.

    The Bolsheviks were busily building a new country from scratch and wanted to be left alone. It was the imperialist powers (France, England, US, Japan) plus Poland who invaded the USSR east and west in support of the Czarist White Guards, perhaps as a revenge for the peace treaty with Germany as well as killing Socialism stillborn.

    Stalin's purge of the "internationalists" led by Trotsy and the policy of "Socialism in One Country" are proof of it, as well as the trade agreements with Germany up to late 1930s.

    I have not come across yet any Soviet antagonistic discourse towards Germany; on the contrary, there were good friendly relations between them (in fact the Soviets helped Germany's armaments industry forbidden by the Versailles Treaty). Compare that with the Nazi pronouncements and plans for Pan-Germanism in Slavic lands.

    Please don't repeat the hare-brained meme that the Soviet troops had an offensive disposition, if you have a modicum of sef-respect.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Rurik

    I understand the Neo-Nazi propaganda needs to justify Uncle Adolph’s rampage through Europe as a pre-emptive strike to prevent the emergence of a threat to Germany.

    First, everything you know about the start of WW II is a lie, to remedy that read Buchanan’s ‘The Unnecessary War’ and Wyndham Lewis’s ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or How to Make a War About Nothing’, written in 1936.

    War between Germany and the communists began at the end of WW I, see


    Video Link
    For another angle on Russia at the start of WW II ….

    To get right to first causes see … Rabbi ben Porat’s exegesis of Mein Kampf


    Video Link

    • Replies: @Cowboy
    @Saggy

    Great Suvorov presentation. That Russian sense of irony, humor and humility keeps bleeding through. We also see it in Putin, Lavrov and even Orlov.

    It really shows that Stalin suckered Hitler and got him to invade Poland. Stalin then was hoping Hitler would exhaust Germany in the west, and thats why Stalin had airfields 800m from the German border in June 1941.

    To me it provides loads more evidence that Stalin and Churchill were on the same team from before August 1939.

    Replies: @Germanicus

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike
    @Wally

    Wally,

    Who's batting next? Comments on this thread are piling in so fast that I may have missed some and little time to visit other threads or new incoming articles.

    Anyway, in the meantime deconstruct this guy:


    "Dr. Irmfried Eberl (1910-1948): mass murdering MD.", Strous RD., Isr. Med. Assoc J. 2009 Apr;11(4):216-8.


    Abstract

    There are isolated cases of physicians who murdered their patients. However, never had a single physician personally supervised the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of individuals, until Dr. Irmfried Eberl. Commander of the Nazi death camp Treblinka, he killed both the ill and those he considered "a disease to his nation." At age 32 Dr. Eberl established Treblinka, where he was responsible for the killing of approximately 280,000 individuals within a few weeks. The position of camp commandant was earned following his success as head of two psychiatric hospitals in Germany where he coordinated the murder of thousands of mentally ill Jews and non-Jews within the context of the euthanasia program. However, few in medicine have heard of him or the harm he caused to the ethical practice of the profession and to human rights.
     
    Did you suggest I set up my own website to rival the clowns at codoh? As I said too many comments not enough time to locate that one. I guess I could even get you know who to go fund me. But then I think there would be too many Isr. references for your liking; like the one above, as they take an inordinate, but not unusual, interest in the subject. I got involved in this debate as a truth-seeker and from a scientific point of view, but not to bolster the Holocaust industry or justify Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians or their continued wars in the Middle East. But if one leads to the other what can I do? I could then similarly say that all Holocaust deniers are neo-Nazis (not true of course) and keep screaming "Nazi", "fascist" at you and claiming that your denials are orchestrated only to support growing neo-Nazism and fascism in society and that RU is too kind to allow you to do so, and ... Get the drift.

    Yeah, get into the Holocaust/Holohoax debate and you're stuck between the Nazis and Zionists.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Yeah, get into the Holocaust/Holohoax debate and you’re stuck between the Nazis and Zionists.

    Understanding that the ‘holocaust’ is a complete and preposterous hoax makes one an antisemite immediately. And it naturally leads one to study the larger picture, WW II and Hitler and the Nazis, and that is likely to make one a neo-Nazi, if you will. The Nazis were the only serious opposition the Anglo-Zionist empire has encountered, the Anglo-Zionist empire collaborated with the communists. Wyndham Lewis documents this pre-war collaboration in ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or, How to Make a War About Nothing’, written in 1936…

    As far as Great Britain is concerned, there is, in 1936, not a shadow of a reason for a war with anybody. It is because that there is no concrete reason that abstract reasons have had to be thought up and trotted out.

    Nationalism may be superseded by the issue between different forms of political structure, between parliamentarism, fascism, and Bolshevism. …. Parliamentarism and Bolshevism seem to feel a remarkable affinity for one another, if for no other reason than that they are both consumed with an equal hatred of fascism.

    No British statesman has ever desired a war with Germany. But they have apparently come to regard themselves as committed to a policy which is violently determined to rid Europe of Hitler. And they are well aware that that cannot be effected without the risk of another world-war. It is not so much ‘fascist dictatorship’ that excites them — for after all they left Mussolini in complete peace for a decade. Neither does Dictatorship , in itself, excite them so much as all that — even accompanied by a permanent Reign of Terror and the massacre of millions of people. For Soviet Russia has been left undisturbed. No, it can only be something about the internal regime of Adolf Hitler that excites in them this implacable mood.

    The Franco-Soviet pact has been ratified and it is highly probable that a Rumano-Soviet pact, on the lines of the military pact between the Soviet and Czechoslovakia, will be signed in the near future. The Austrian Government (which represents a fantastically small fraction of the people of Austria) seems to be moving towards an entente with the Little Entente. So the game of ‘encirclement’ goes on: and all these arrangements — carried on in every case over the heads and usually in contradiction to the wishes of the people — are made possible, and constantly stimulated by British and French gold. The remarks which I have quoted from the Morning Post mean, in plain language, that Great Britain is about to arm the Soviet against Germany. (Marshal Tukachevski stopped behind in England after the funeral of King George to go round the British armament factories to pick his tanks and guns.) There have constantly been rumours of a fifty million pounds British loan to France. That, too, in plain language, is Great Britain arming France against ‘the Hun’

    There is one country where the Englishman is certain of a warm welcome: there is one country whose government never ceases to proffer friendship, and to be accommodating and polite, and that is Germany. Year in and year out, like a love-sick supplicant, Herr Hitler pays his court to the haughty Britannia. Every insult that can be invented even by the resourceful Mr. Churchill is tamely swallowed, every rebuff of Mr. Baldwin’s, every sneer of Mr. Eden, is meekly accepted, by this pertinacious suitor!

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Germanicus
    @Cowboy


    To me it provides loads more evidence that Stalin and Churchill were on the same team from before August 1939.
     
    https://ia801304.us.archive.org/5/items/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill/Zionism%20vs%20Bolshevism%20by%20Winston%20Churchill.jpg

    https://archive.org/details/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill

    The crazy thing is, Churchill the drunkard actually was pro-Zionist as were the Germans, yet his jewish overlords effectively managed Churchill to support Bolshevism, due to his debts to them. Churchill was a total tool, utterly corrupt and stupid.

    Churchill actually also had an eye on the Oilfields at Baku, and there were British plans to take them by force from Stalin, but they never materialized though.

    Replies: @Saggy

    The crazy thing is, Churchill the drunkard actually was pro-Zionist as were the Germans, yet his jewish overlords effectively managed Churchill to support Bolshevism, due to his debts to them. Churchill was a total tool, utterly corrupt and stupid.

    David Irving describes how the Zionists came to own Churchill in the vid below- but as you can see from the article above Churchill had an amazing intellect, e.g.

    From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

    In another vid (deleted from YT) of same speech Irving describes how Churchill acquired funds by forging artworks, and writing for US newspapers, the guy was incredible, unfortunately.


    Video Link

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    @Saggy


    David Irving describes how the Zionists came to own Churchill in the vid below- but as you can see from the article above Churchill had an amazing intellect, e.g.
     
    I think there is a problem with actually clear cut language.
    You use "Zionists", Churchill's jewish handlers were obviously not Zionist, but in favor of Bolshevism. The earlier Britsh leadership clearly favored Zionism, hence Balfour declaration in 1917, the same year jewish Bolsheviks took over Russia, funded and trained by the US.

    You see the same old conflict actually in the US currently. The democrats play for team Bolshevism, the Republicans play for team Zionism.

    The jewish tool UN play for team Bolshevism, hence Israel hate the UN and call it "anti-semitic", yet Israel manages to ignore countless UN resolutions, every other country would be "liberated", democratized by bombing and invading it.

    The funny thing is, German and Zionist interests converge once again, but for different reasons when it comes to the UN. The German occupation regime play for team Bolshevism.

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @Germanicus
    @Saggy


    Churchill had an amazing intellect
     
    I disagree on this one though.

    Churchill gambled his empire away, just as these "superior intellect" Jews in the US do with the US empire.

    Even worse, the Brits soon realized, they backed the wrong guys, the Soviets, which led to the "cold war", partition of Germany and no peace regulation to this day. The soviets busily installed Jews all over Eastern Europe in their communist satellites, just as the US install their puppets in places they invade.

    He only stated the obvious, which was almost common knowledge at this point in time.
    Newspapers wrote about the issue, people talked about it.

    Replies: @Cowboy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Germanicus
    @Saggy


    David Irving describes how the Zionists came to own Churchill in the vid below- but as you can see from the article above Churchill had an amazing intellect, e.g.
     
    I think there is a problem with actually clear cut language.
    You use "Zionists", Churchill's jewish handlers were obviously not Zionist, but in favor of Bolshevism. The earlier Britsh leadership clearly favored Zionism, hence Balfour declaration in 1917, the same year jewish Bolsheviks took over Russia, funded and trained by the US.

    You see the same old conflict actually in the US currently. The democrats play for team Bolshevism, the Republicans play for team Zionism.

    The jewish tool UN play for team Bolshevism, hence Israel hate the UN and call it "anti-semitic", yet Israel manages to ignore countless UN resolutions, every other country would be "liberated", democratized by bombing and invading it.

    The funny thing is, German and Zionist interests converge once again, but for different reasons when it comes to the UN. The German occupation regime play for team Bolshevism.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Churchill’s jewish handlers were obviously not Zionist,

    I’m used to saying Zionist to avoid the J word, but this is Unz so I guess we can say it. Anyhow, Irving reports that Jews came to Churchill’s financial rescue in a group known as The Focus. Jews are obviously Zionists, so …. ?

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    @Saggy


    Jews are obviously Zionists, so …. ?
     
    Jews are obviously Jews, in rebellion to god, no matter if they tend towards Bolshevism/Marxism or Zionism. They have constantly spawned very destructive Jewish movements.
    The common denominator is Jews as a group, as it is stated in the Bible(Iudaoi).

    I know perhaps someone is a Jew, but I don't know if he is a Zionist. To be clear, I have no problem with Jews having their own land, but what they do in Palestine is criminal and disgusting.

    You find roman writers, who already stated, that the Jews compete and deceive not only non Jews, but they do it among themselves in the same disgusting, repulsive manner.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGt7_0GEOvo

  • @Theodore
    @Commentator Mike


    Regarding erroneous photo captions so what? It doesn’t prove that every other instance of photographic evidence is also wrong. It would be like saying because Soviets blamed the Katyin massacre on the Germans and covered it up for so long, that every other massacre attributed to the Nazis was also actually done by the Russians. Or because someone in Eastern Europe under Nazi occupation had better experiences than under subsequent Soviet occupation, and didn’t witness any of the mass murders by the Nazis but maybe witnessed some mistreatment by the Soviets, that everyone else there had the same experiences and that the Nazis did no wrong and that the mass murders were all made up. Where’s the logic in that?
     
    There is no photographic evidence that disproves the claims of "Holocaust deniers" which means there is no actual photographic evidence of the "Holocaust"

    The photos of piles of bodies are real, but they do not disprove anything the "Holocaust deniers" claim, and, therefore, they do not prove the "Holocaust" story as alleged. They are not incompatible with it, but they are not incompatible with "Holocaust denial" either.

    Please, post a photo that proves "Holocaust deniers" wrong

    (Note: so-called "Holocaust deniers" claim hundreds of thousands of people, rather than millions, perished in the camps)

    Replies: @Saggy, @renfro

    They are not incompatible with it,

    A photo without provenance is meaningless. When the provenance of the photos of the piles of bodies are known, the photos become incompatible with the holohoax.

    As a good example, there was an Oprah/Elie Wiesel Auschwitz special that featured film footage of holohoax victims shown in the first minute ….

    All of the footage shown comes from this film shown at Nuremberg,



    Video Link
    as is pointed out, scene by scene, with times given, in this vid …



    Video Link
    Thus all the photos were taken after the war had ended and show prisoners who had died from a British bombing attack and Nordhausen, and a typhus epidemic at Belsen and other camps.

    If the Nazis had been killing the Jews throughout the war, there wouldn’t have been tens of thousands left at the end of the war to die from allied bombing and tyhpus (30,000 died in the last weeks at Belsen, 10,000 after the camp was liberated, maybe 1/3 Jews)

    BTW, have a look at the Yad Vashem Auschwitz Album,
    https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/album_auschwitz/index.asp

    The Auschwitz Album is the only surviving visual evidence of the process leading to the mass murder at Auschwitz-Birkenau. It is a unique document and was donated to Yad Vashem by Lilly Jacob-Zelmanovic Meier.

    The photos were taken at the end of May or beginning of June 1944, either by Ernst Hofmann or by Bernhard Walter, two SS men whose task was to take ID photos and fingerprints of the inmates

  • @Corvinus
    @Theodore

    "Part of the issue here is that well over 90% of what you consider “The Holocaust” is not denied by “Deniers”..."

    The facts you listed are outright denied or significantly downplayed by deniers. Furthermore, these facts, which have been verified, only serve as evidence that this event occurred.

    "However, there was no Nazi plan to exterminate all Jews."

    If you believe the Final Solution was a real policy, then that lends credibility here. Furthermore, there has been significant documentation indicating that this plan was developed and executed by Nazi leaders.

    "Additionally, the “6 million” number is total nonsense."

    Can we just say that millions of Jews died at the hands of Nazis?

    "And finally, the primary murder weapon, homicidal gas chambers, were not used at the camps."

    Again, there is documentation, as well as eyewitness accounts by Jews, non-Jews, and German soldiers, indicating that there were gas chambers and that they were used.

    "Every document mentioning the “Final Solution” defines it as resettlement/deportation..."

    It cannot be attributed to a single decision made at one particular point in time; the decision making process was prolonged and incremental, and decisions made by the German High Command clearly show that ultimately the extermination of Jews was a culmination of their efforts.
    There was deliberate mass murder of Jews.

    "And yet one side has been persecuted and thrown in prison cells for publishing work on the subject, work that is not “hate” and does not promote “racism” or “antisemitism”."

    Debatable.

    "Further, this group is totally prevented from excavating the alleged ‘extermination camps’ — in other words, it has not been “thoroughly” investigated."

    There have been excavations. It is an interesting question, although not surprising, as to why Holocaust deniers were not part of the process.

    https://www.livescience.com/44443-treblinka-archaeological-excavation.html

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.MAGAZINE-excavating-nazi-death-camps-in-search-of-holocaust-victims-stories-1.5626771

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome, @annamaria, @Theodore, @Saggy

    Can we just say that millions of Jews died at the hands of Nazis?

    No, it is absurd. The truth is that zero Jews not engaged in partisan warfare were killed by the Nazis.

    Now, if there were innocent Jews killed by the Nazis, where is the evidence?

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  • There is no evidence that even ONE Jew was killed by the Nazis for being a Jew. The Nazis investigated crime in the camps aggressively, the ‘bloodhound judge’ Konrad Morgen was in charge and conducted 800 investigations with hundreds of prosecutions (google him), and there is no evidence that a single Jew was killed for being a Jew in the camps. So, how about the Einsatzgruppen? Is there any evidence that the Einsatzgruppen, and not the Latvian, Lithuanian, etc., locals, killed a single Jew? I recall that there are some documents, but has any reported Einsatzgruppen killing been corroborated with a mass grave? I don’t believe so.

  • A Muslim and a Jew walked into a YouTube channel, engaged in some friendly interfaith dialogue…and got banned for “hate speech.” I wish that were a joke. Shortly after I posted yesterday’s interview with Doooovid, an independent Jewish intellectual and interfaith activist, YouTube banned the video, claiming it violated their anti-hate-speech guidelines. Why would YouTube...
  • Saggy says: • Website

    The idea that an ‘algorithm’ is responsible for the censorship is complete nonsense, the Jews are censoring the internet and it’s acknowledged – https://www.mintpressnews.com/youtube-censor-controversial-content-adl/230530/. The working definition of hate speech is speech that Jews hate, and it’s being censored not only from current reporting in true Orwellian fashion, it is also being censored from history – https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/13/how-youtube-erased-history-its-battle-against-white-supremacy/. From ‘1984’

    Something crashed on to the bed behind Winston’s back. The head of a ladder had been thrust through the window and had burst in the frame. Someone was climbing through the window. There was a stampede of boots up the stairs. The room was full of solid men in black uniforms, with ironshod boots on their feet and truncheons in their hands.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    @Saggy

    I assume it was an algorithm because it happened so fast. The video was banned just a few hours after it was posted. I have a hard time believing they're paying a human to watch my videos the moment I post them.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Arioch

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @Kevin Barrett
    @Saggy

    I assume it was an algorithm because it happened so fast. The video was banned just a few hours after it was posted. I have a hard time believing they're paying a human to watch my videos the moment I post them.

    Replies: @Saggy, @Arioch

    The algorithm has a programmer, it deletes the posts that the ADL wants it to delete. They spend a lot of time and effort on this, even working with UCB ….

    The Jews are censoring the internet, telling everyone about it, and it’s all good. Assigning responsibility to an ‘algorithm’ is just cover for the Jews, and they don’t need or even want it.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    @Saggy

    OK, I will call it a "Jewish algorithm" if you can prove the algorithm is circumcised and has a Jewish mother.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @attilathehen
    The Musloid KB and the Jooooo Dooooovid forgot the biggest group in between the Old Testament and the Koran - the New Testament Christians. As a Western Christian woman, I will show that these two miscegenated, meshuggah schmegges have no idea about what they babble.

    When dealing with the world and Jews/Muslims two perspectives are needed. There is the biological materialist perspective and the religious perspective. I can argue from both sides.

    Using biological materialism, people can be divided into three racial groups: Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroids. Caucasoids have the highest IQs, Mongoloids are second and Negroids are last. When I use biological materialism for my viewpoint I do believe that there is some ultimate "God" or "Being" who had to start the biological process. I thus believe in evolution and devolution. IQ (which is biological and tied to race) is the most objective and important "Truth" and the most important standard by which to measure people. We know that the West is not Mongoloid and Negroid and thus these 2 groups cannot be in the West. Western civilization was developed by Caucasoids and that's why we see the greatness of the West today.

    Using religion as the standard, we can see that the old Caucasian and European pagan belief systems and Christianity were the religions that also developed the West.

    Now, Jews are both biological and religious. Present day Jews are not related to the Jews of the Old Testament and when Jesus lived. Those Jews were Caucasians. Today's Jews are a mixed Afro-Asiatic group. There is a small number of Ashkenazi Jews who can be called Caucasians, but given the their high intermarriage rates with blacks and Asians, they are disappearing. Also, present day Jews are not a Western people. Western civilization is Graeco-Roman-Christian.

    Here is a youtube about Jews of color: https://www.centralsynagogue.org/worship/sermons/detail/moses-married-a-cushite-woman-recognizing-the-many-colors-of-the-jewish-com

    Religiously, present day Jews are not the chosen and have no covenant with God. Jesus is the New Covenant. Present day Judaism is a mix of the Talmud and Kabbalah. The Torah (Old Testament) is rarely used and just used as a prop for modern day Jews to say they practice what is in the Torah. Also, present day Judaism is supported by gentile Freemasons and Christian Zionists who believe that if the temple is rebuilt, Freemasons will rule the world and Christians Zionists will bring Jesus back to earth. Pure degeneracy and madness. The temple will never be rebuilt.

    Islam is a Christian heresy. I have read the Koran. It is a farrago, dog's breakfast of pagan Arab beliefs, some Old Testament passages and hearsay about Christianity. Since Muslims deny Jesus is the Son of God, they are heretics and enemies.

    We can see the rotten fruits of Islam by looking at the backwardness of the Muslim world. Most Muslims are black/Asian. Since these are the least intelligent races, it is easy to understand why they would believe in such a degenerate religion.

    KB, your wife is Moroccan. Before Islam conquered North Africa, the people were high IQ Caucasoids. St. Augustine and Hannibal are examples of these people. When the Muslims took over, they introduced black slavery, first-cousin marriage, polygamy and concubinage. This destroyed the original Caucasoid North Africans. The average IQ of Morocco is 83. This is because 90% of Moroccans have black ancestry. Present days Muslims have no ties to Hagar of the Old Testament.

    Islam is not Western belief system and has no place in the West. I do support Israel because if a present day group of people want to LARP as Jews, they must do this in Israel. Jews are not a Western people, but they do need a nation. The Muslim Palestianians can move to Jordan.

    I've been to Israel for Christmas and had a nice time. My next trip will be to make a pilgrimage to my favorite saint's home village - in the Galilee. A new church was built in her honor several years ago and there are many excavations going on that are bringing items from her life to the present.

    I trust the Jews more with Christian holy sites than I do the Muslims. The Al Aqsa Mosque needs to be converted to a church. I've been in it. It is very beautiful but needs to be converted.

    The next time you discuss the West and religion, let me in on your conversation.

    Replies: @Blake, @anon, @Saggy

    I like this line …

    I have read the Koran. It is a farrago, dog’s breakfast of pagan Arab beliefs, some Old Testament passages and hearsay about Christianity.

    I’ve just started reading the Bible (from reading D. Reed) starting with Deuteronomy and Joshua, and I can’t fathom how anyone could ever have taken a word of this nonsense seriously, much less as religious revelation.

    There is something very weird, and inexplicable to me, going on in the mind of every Jew, Christian, and Muslim, and as long persons believing or even pretending to believe this truly vile nonsense are in power, the human race has a very big obstacle to overcome.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    Saggy is also a good description of your IQ.

    The Bible is not just a religious book. It contains history, archaeology, poetry, music, and many other subjects. Many of the Old Testament places have been discovered by modern day archaelogists. You can visit them in Israel.

    The Bible and the Koran have very little in common. Present day Jews are LARPers and do not have a proper interpretation of the Bible. Jewish and Muslim beliefs about the Bible are wrong.

    I stated that I think from two perspectives. As a biological materialist, I need to prove things objectively. While much of the Bible is historical, other parts have to be believed through faith. Only an orthodox Christian has the best understanding of the Bible.

    However, as the New Testament states we see through a glass darkly while on earth. All will be revealed when we die.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    Saggy is also a good description of your IQ.

    The Bible is not just a religious book. It contains history, archaeology, poetry, music, and many other subjects. Many of the Old Testament places have been discovered by modern day archaelogists. You can visit them in Israel.

    The Bible and the Koran have very little in common. Present day Jews are LARPers and do not have a proper interpretation of the Bible. Jewish and Muslim beliefs about the Bible are wrong.

    I stated that I think from two perspectives. As a biological materialist, I need to prove things objectively. While much of the Bible is historical, other parts have to be believed through faith. Only an orthodox Christian has the best understanding of the Bible.

    However, as the New Testament states we see through a glass darkly while on earth. All will be revealed when we die.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Only an orthodox Christian has the best understanding of the Bible.

    I’d guess that very few of the readers here have actually read the Bible. I hadn’t until recently. I highly recommend it, start with Deuteronomy and Joshua, the first two books written, the thing reads like a violent and degenerate comic book, with the Jews slaughtering every non-Jew in sight. It is impossible for a rational person to take seriously.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    I realize you're a low IQ, functional illiterate so any kind of reading is difficult. You read everything out of context. From my biological materialist perspective, you are a rapidly degenerating entity.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • Saggy says: • Website
    @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    I realize you're a low IQ, functional illiterate so any kind of reading is difficult. You read everything out of context. From my biological materialist perspective, you are a rapidly degenerating entity.

    Replies: @Saggy

    You read everything out of context.

    Idiot!

    Let’s read to some history, some poetry from the Bible ….

    Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth as if they were rams and lambs, goats and bulls–all of them fattened animals from Bashan. At the sacrifice I am preparing for you, you will eat fat till you are glutted and drink blood till you are drunk. At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,’ declares the Sovereign LORD.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    @Saggy

    Honesty is the best policy, my friend.

    You ommitted the opening lines to this passage, I am afraid -


    Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: 'Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood
     
    It is from Ezekiel, a description of the typical aftermath on the field of battle, to those wicked men who choose war and rapine and go against the Lord in the end days.

    Replies: @Saggy

    , @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    Saggy, you keep sagging lower and lower in IQ. You need to stop and preserve the few functioning brain cells you have left so you can just survive.

    Replies: @Saggy

  • @AaronB
    @Saggy

    Honesty is the best policy, my friend.

    You ommitted the opening lines to this passage, I am afraid -


    Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: 'Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood
     
    It is from Ezekiel, a description of the typical aftermath on the field of battle, to those wicked men who choose war and rapine and go against the Lord in the end days.

    Replies: @Saggy

    Honesty is the best policy, my friend.

    SOB ! You’re right. One has to be skeptical and careful, and I wasn’t.

    • LOL: AaronB
  • Saggy says: • Website
    @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    Saggy, you keep sagging lower and lower in IQ. You need to stop and preserve the few functioning brain cells you have left so you can just survive.

    Replies: @Saggy

    The reality is that at the core of three of the major world religions is some of the most macabre and degenerate writing that was ever committed to parchment.

    And the God of the Jews, Muslims, and Christians is a big fan of cannibalism:

    I also will do this unto you… You shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. — Leviticus 26:16

    And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. — Leviticus 26:29

    And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. — Deuteronomy 28:53

    And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them. — Deuteronomy 28:57

    Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm. — Isaiah 9:19-20

    And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine. — Isaiah 49:26

    And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. — Jeremiah 19:9

    Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers. — Ezekiel 5:10

    I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another. — Zechariah 11:9

    This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him. 2 Kings 6:28-29

    The hands of the pitiful women have sodden their own children: they were their meat. — Lamentations 4:10

    Who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron. — Micah 3:2-3

    Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned. Then set it empty upon the coals thereof, that the brass of it may be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness of it may be molten in it, that the scum of it may be consumed. She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her: her scum shall be in the fire. — Ezekiel 24:10-12

    Therefore in your midst fathers will eat their children, and children will eat their fathers. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds. Ezekiel 5:10

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    People who practice cannibalism do it because they think they will get the "mighty spirit" or "physical strength" of their human sacrifice.

    You are not worth cannibalizing. You are junk food.

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  • @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    People who practice cannibalism do it because they think they will get the "mighty spirit" or "physical strength" of their human sacrifice.

    You are not worth cannibalizing. You are junk food.

    Replies: @Saggy

    You are not worth cannibalizing. You are junk food.

    The better part of you has already been cannibalized. That’s why you post such idiocy, in the name of Orthodox Christianity no less. Too bad !

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    @Saggy

    You have no sense of humor and understanding of satire. Another sign of a low IQ.

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    @Kevin Barrett
    @Saggy

    OK, I will call it a "Jewish algorithm" if you can prove the algorithm is circumcised and has a Jewish mother.

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