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  • @Michael Hoffman
    POPE BLESSES HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS

    Michael Hoffman
    www.RevisionistHistory.org

    Yesterday we analyzed the ramifications of the pope's comments as recorded in the new documentary film "Francesco," extending his "Who am I to judge" existentialism concerning homosexuality, into outright papal approbation for "gay civil unions."

    In our column we warned about the damage control that would inevitably be launched on the Right, heavily laden with the intelligence agency concept of plausible denial.

    First at bat this morning is the Right wing Ignatius Institute, an allegedly "conservative" Jesuit operation that publishes the online "Catholic World Report." They suggest that the pope's remarks on homosexuals were taken out of context, spliced together; that they were not contiguous, that the pope is made to say what he did not say in the way he said it, not explicitly. If you think that sounds more like a Rodney Dangerfield comedy monologue than a reasonable exculpation of the pope's beliefs, you're probably correct.

    From the same “Catholic World Report” another columnist comes nearer to the truth of the matter and skirts dangerously close to revealing the game afoot. We'll quote from him and then add our own comments.

    The deeply flawed opportunism of Pope Francis

    By Carl E. Olson
    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/10/21/the-deeply-flawed-opportunism-of-pope-francis/

    The matter of the specific question might not be clear, but the end result of this quintessentially Francis moment seems clear enough: more controversy, more confusion, further sniping over what the Church really teaches, and where papal comments in documentaries should be placed in the realm of magisterial statements: Above interviews given to an elderly, atheist Italian journalist? Below off-the-cuff remarks made while flying at 30,000 feet? Close to private phone calls made to this mother or that old friend?

    Here’s the thing: if Francis’s remarks were made without prudential concern for how they would be received, they are deeply troubling. Or worse. If they were carefully made with specific attention to how they would be received, they are deeply troubling. Or worse.

    Yes, everyone has a “right” to be a “part of a family”; their very existence suggests they came from a family. But is Francis then saying that homosexuals have a “right” to have a family? It appears so. As the Catholic News Agency report notes, the film includes a story of Francis “encouraging two Italian men in a same-sex relationship to raise their children in their parish church, which, one of the men said, was greatly beneficial to his children.” 

    But “...in his 2013 book On Heaven and Earth, Francis stated that...if same-sex couples “are given adoption rights, there could be affected children. Every person needs a male father and a female mother that can help them shape their identity.”

    So, which is it? Well, that probably depends on the day and week. Changing course and shifting narrative parameters for different audiences has been a regular feature of this pontificate...

    (End quote from Mr. Olson)

    Whether he is aware of it or not, the utility of Olsen’s last paragraph is that it accurately articulates the profound deceptions that began to emerge from the papacy, beginning in the late fifteenth century, with the clandestine “baptism” of the Talmud and Kabbalah, which is the subject of our book, The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome.

    We would revise Mr. Olson’s observation, “Changing course and shifting narrative parameters for different audiences has been a regular feature of this pontificate,” to note that this camouflage and shape-shifting has been a regular feature not just of Francis, but of dozens of pontificates long before the liberal Second Vatican Council of the 1960s.

    In 1515 Pope Leo X issued a bull permitting interest on loans for the good cause of his Medici relatives’ charity banks (the main charity being the Medici). E. Michael Jones has challenged our assertion that the Church gradually betrayed the dogma banning the renting of money. He did so by alluding to Pope Benedict XIV’s Vix Pervenit, which ostensibly reasserts the immemorial anti-usury teaching of the Bible and the sacred tradition that is in line with it. Dr. Jones missed the “fine print” in this document, however. The pope inserted an escape clause permitting a little bit of interest on loans, if reasonable and necessary in certain situations, rather like permitting whoredom in “extenuating circumstances” so long as the prostitute’s rates are discounted. Usurers, like their brethren in the legal profession, are fairly adept at smelling the odor of situation ethics and reading fine print. Consequently, the historical record shows that usury increased among Catholics after the issuance of the “great and wonderfully orthodox” Vix Pervenit.

    We could furnish a hundred more examples of papal swindles like the preceding, from far back in the “traditional Catholic” past,beginning with the Platonic Academy in Florence in the mid-fifteenth century. How about the papally-sponsored publication of the finest edition of the Babylonian Talmud ever printed up to 1521? No! you protest, the Renaissance popes burned the Talmud! Yes, they did, but first they made certain they rescued the Talmud from the oblivion in which it was descending in the early sixteenth century. They made it what it is today, even ensuring that Rashi was included as a canonical part of the text, and underwriting the survival and expansion of the Talmud. Later, the Renaissance papacy burned copies of the Talmud as damage control in order to keep their Right wing faithful to their dictatorship. Sound familiar? Do you imagine the tactics of “Pope” Francis are new? He inherited them as part of the ancient Neoplatonic-Hermetic gnosis.

    In one case we documented The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, Spanish troops were outraged that the pontiff’s forces were protecting the Talmud. The troops searched for other diabolic rabbinic books in Italy, one of which was the demonology known as the Kabbalah, which was the “bible” of Renaissance “Catholic” occultism. The clever pontiff of the time ordered the Talmud burned (the Spanish would have done it anyway),to distract the Spaniards’ attention from the stockpile of Kabbalah texts that papacy was protecting. The sly misdirection succeeded. The Kabbalah was saved while some copies of the Talmud were burned. The event entered history as, “Anti-Semitic Pontiff Burns Talmud.” The part about doing so to protect the stock of Kabbalah volumes is never reported. And so it goes: misdirection after misdirection, deception after deception.

    As we tried to show in our book Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare, and in the volume we are currently writing, Twilight Language, the Cryptocracy proceeds over time in stages. What it divulges now it could not have made public 70 years ago without dire consequences to its operations. The current stage in the human alchemy which is at the core of the process of our transformation and devolution, is to reveal to us the Satanic harm perpetrated by our esteemed leaders, whether the “Holy Father” or the Queen of England or the President of the United States, and then have us do nothing, thereby exponentially increasing our bondage to the dark forces. My teacher James Shelby Downard termed it, the “Revelation of the Method,” and alternately, the “Making manifest of All that is Hidden” (Luke 8:17).

    Perverse irony of ironies: the secrets-keeping Cryptocracy that killed, maimed or ruined everyone from Capt. William Morgan (drowned in New York in 1826), James Forrestal (defenestrated in 1949), Lee Harvey Oswald (shot to death in 1963), to Jeffrey Epstein (choked to death in 2019), to prevent them from revealing secrets, is increasingly publicly disclosing their secrets to us, as Francis did in “Francesco.” This is accomplished for reasons of psychological warfare and timed to coincide with our own enervated condition. Thus far their gambit has succeeded. We are more than ever distracted, demoralized, indifferent, misdirected, confused and fatigued. Our humanity is being drained. We dress like slobs and casually employ obscene language which formerly was the lingo only of pimps, perverts and drunken sailors. We claim to love truth but in fact we are awed by our Satanic Majesties’ digital carnival, promising daily ever more apocalyptic thrills and adrenaline rushes.

    This week, as the presidential election jolted us in one direction and another like passengers on a Twilight Zone roller coaster, and while NASA’s spacecraft dubbed “Osiris Rex,” after the supreme king of the Pharaonic Egyptian magic that is the root of the Kabbalah, snatched prima materia from an asteroid, the “Holy Father” stepped forth from the pit of hell to bless the practice that across millennia has been universally recognized by every civilization that observed the natural law, to be a malediction that destroys nations.

    True? Accurate? Close enough? Not really. Sort of. Maybe.

    Michael Hoffman is the editor of the periodical Revisionist History®, published six times a year.

    Copyright©2020 by Independent History and Research, Box 849, Coeur d’Alene, Idaho 83816

    https://www.revisionisthistory.org

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @apollonian, @Al Liguori, @aname

    You seem to be drawing a link between Osiris worship and the practice of homosexuality but Jews are accused by you of having perverted the OT in the Talmud so would it be surprising if they had done the same with the Kabbalah?

    Millennia before Jesus tried to lead the Jews back to the garden they had been evicted from, the Ancient Egyptians, your “pagans”, described in detail postmortem judgement taking place before the throne of Osiris at which they had to declare a list of sins they were free from either by non-practice or absolution. This included:

    “I have not lain with a man”
    “I have not committed adultery”
    (Papyrus of Ani and many other similar texts)

    I have wondered about a connection between the rise of unwise women in the political sphere making catastrophic mistakes and children as leaders (climate crusades) with a passage from the Book of Isaiah:

    “My people—infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your paths”

    and the reason for this?

    “The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves” (Isa 3:9)

    If an alcoholic has a genetic predisposition to this affliction they do not have Alcoholic Pride parades and demand that children should be encouraged in infant school to pursue this as a life style.

    Is not one of the messages of the Garden of Eden story that some things be banned as a test of free will even though they be desirable to the individual?

    Whatever be the case moral judgement was part of “pagan” belief and only by passing this test could the ancient Egyptian say then and now “[I belong] to the Garden of Osiris, and a path is made is made for me so that I may go in and worship Osiris Lord of Life” (BD 122, ROF)

    • Replies: @Franz
    @Jack McArthur


    I have wondered about a connection between the rise of unwise women in the political sphere making catastrophic mistakes ...
     
    This complaint is pertinent, and goes back quite a way even to recent US history.

    Philip Wylie's book, Generation of Vipers, came out (amazingly) about the time America entered WWII. It was a hit then, forgotten now. The most controversial chapter in the book describes what Wylie called "momism" which he considered the disastrous consequences of allowing women to act effectively as the sole parent of young males.

    Dorothy Day (of the Catholic League) had been somewhat successful creating the "family wage" whereby corporate bosses paid the male breadwinner enough to cover the expenses of the whole household. This allowed women to be full time homemakers. While fathers were mostly absent working.

    The family wage years era ended during the recessionary oil shock years of the 70s, but by then inflation had sucked the life out of most wage jobs anyway. Mom went to work just as she did before.

    Still Wylie thought the damage had been done. Lots of people agreed with him, some of the misogynist statements in Growing Up Absurd, a very popular book about what a disaster US education was becoming by the fifties, were probably influenced by Wylie.

    During the Reagan 80s feminism in American life was the most powerful cultural force. How much of that was due to the new austerity? And is the effect we are seeing now due to the disaster of sexual confusion that started while the US economy was being globalized, which is to say, while the American worker was being impoverished?

    It's worth considering.
  • Will the 2020 elections change history? If they do, it won’t be because one or the other candidate won, but because they accelerated the polarization that brought down the American empire. Political partisans, including most of the mainstream media (MSM) are screaming from the rooftops that the fate of the known universe depends on the...
  • @Half-Jap
    "Voting machine levers." Get real..
    Please consider the current reality that voting machines are programmable and that what the voter actually votes for may not be reflected in the result, as in the US has suffered from a large gap between exit polling and the recorded votes. The fraud has been ongoing for quite a while.
    Unrelatedly, "Critics say Trump is a malignant narcissist and egomaniac—which is true. They call him a mental midget, or as several of his senior military advisors have said, a “moron,” which is also true." Anybody can call you that and at the magnitude that is sent Trump's way, no denial or kind or self-deprecating acts will change that; stop with this nonsensical gossip and prejudicial pronouncements. Many of us are sick and tired of this 'obligatory' preface to anything that may analyze a Trump-related phenomena that doesn't categorically condemn him.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Please consider the current reality that voting machines are programmable and that what the voter actually votes for may not be reflected in the result, as in the US has suffered from a large gap between exit polling and the recorded votes.

    I have been out of electronics for many years but even then the technology was readily available to not only adjust the votes cast but to also shield its detection from inspection. I remember reading a post by an anon software engineer about his coding being used to game gaming machines. It was quickly pulled presumably because his own life was being put at risk.

    Any politician who says electronic voting machines are safe is most likely ignorant. Any electronics expert who claims the same is a corrupt liar and likely to be involved in rigging such machines.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur


    I have been out of electronics for many years but even then the technology was readily available to not only adjust the votes cast but to also shield its detection from inspection.
     
    "Researchers have hacked all machines they have tried, and have shown how they can be undetectably hacked by manufacturers, election office staff, pollworkers, voters and outsiders and by the public.[98]'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_the_United_States

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  • @Jack McArthur
    @Half-Jap


    Please consider the current reality that voting machines are programmable and that what the voter actually votes for may not be reflected in the result, as in the US has suffered from a large gap between exit polling and the recorded votes.
     
    I have been out of electronics for many years but even then the technology was readily available to not only adjust the votes cast but to also shield its detection from inspection. I remember reading a post by an anon software engineer about his coding being used to game gaming machines. It was quickly pulled presumably because his own life was being put at risk.

    Any politician who says electronic voting machines are safe is most likely ignorant. Any electronics expert who claims the same is a corrupt liar and likely to be involved in rigging such machines.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    I have been out of electronics for many years but even then the technology was readily available to not only adjust the votes cast but to also shield its detection from inspection.

    “Researchers have hacked all machines they have tried, and have shown how they can be undetectably hacked by manufacturers, election office staff, pollworkers, voters and outsiders and by the public.[98]’
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_the_United_States

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur

    I do not know if the msm are reporting on the suppressed tweets:

    https://news.gab.com/2020/11/04/president-trump-declares-victory-stop-the-coup/

  • Little has happened overnight due to the vote counters going home in some states or, in Philadelphia, the vote-counters having worked all night but the big shots refusing to update the public on what the workers have counted. In Wisconsin, the Milwaukee mail ballots finally got counted giving Biden a 7,500 vote lead in the...
  • “November 4, 2020 by Andrew Torba
    President Trump Declares Victory, Stop The Coup!

    Big Tech is working overtime to censor the President of the United States and disenfranchise his supporters. What we are witnessing is a coup attempt by the oligarchic tech, media, and political establishment.

    Twitter has censored the President’s election night tweets, preventing anyone on the site from engaging with or retweeting him. You can find an uncensored feed of the President’s tweets on the RealDonaldTrump Gab account.

    Here are some key quotes from President Trump’s Victory Speech, which can be watched in full here on Gab

    “This is a fraud on the American public.”

    “This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election, frankly we did win this election.”

    “Our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation, this is a major fraud on our nation. We want the law to be used in a proper manner. We will be going to the US Supreme Court. We want all voting to stop. We don’t want them to find any ballots at four o’clock in the morning and add them to the list. It’s a very sad moment. To me this is a very sad moment. We will win this. As far as I am concerned, we already have won.”
    https://news.gab.com/2020/11/04/president-trump-declares-victory-stop-the-coup/

  • Will the 2020 elections change history? If they do, it won’t be because one or the other candidate won, but because they accelerated the polarization that brought down the American empire. Political partisans, including most of the mainstream media (MSM) are screaming from the rooftops that the fate of the known universe depends on the...
  • @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur


    I have been out of electronics for many years but even then the technology was readily available to not only adjust the votes cast but to also shield its detection from inspection.
     
    "Researchers have hacked all machines they have tried, and have shown how they can be undetectably hacked by manufacturers, election office staff, pollworkers, voters and outsiders and by the public.[98]'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_the_United_States

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    I do not know if the msm are reporting on the suppressed tweets:

    https://news.gab.com/2020/11/04/president-trump-declares-victory-stop-the-coup/

  • The 2020 election results are disturbing to say the least—but not for the reasons trumpeted by the controlled corporate MSM. As I wrote in today’s article “Trump Didn’t Delegitimize this ‘Election’—We Did“: “The MSM, which is under orders to never, ever mention the fact that our voting machines fabricate votes rather than counting them, is...
  • The voting machines have to be non programmable, e.g. no CPU or programmable logic. It should be based exclusively on disrete logic chips e.g. TTL. It should be cased in an effective RF shield enclosure which is effective also in blocking local electromagnetic fields which are used to switch on any internal count altering circuits which have been added to production units.

    The voter selection method should be by simple electromechanical switches.. The audit trail is by paper which the machine issues to the voter who then can see that the right candidate has been selected before depositing in a secure bin. The voting rig is entirely offline with no connection to the internet, no modem as there is no software to be upgraded nor connection to a central server or network.

    A random sample taking in accordance with a recognised sampling plan can validate the paper vote with the machine count.

    Postal voting banned save for registered disabled as it opens the door to many abuses.

    • Replies: @Dago Shoes
    @Jack McArthur

    Lots of 'shoulds' there … not much reality.

    Read these 3 articles and let US know your thoughts …

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/05/even-recounts-can-be-fraudulent/

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/05/fractional-magic-ballot-tampering/

    http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-2/

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    , @Curmudgeon
    @Jack McArthur

    Why computers at all? India, with three times the voting population as the US and its photo ID, uses paper. Voting day is Constitutionally mandated, the deadline for results is the weeks later. Verifiable paper and verifiable in person voting only. The KISS method is always the best method.

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    , @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3
    @Jack McArthur

    You can come to Oregon and take my mail ballot away after you manage to get the gun out of my hand. Good luck.

    , @ivan
    @Jack McArthur

    Yes it has to be non-programmable to begin with. All the addition and input circuits should be burned in, rather than having it being able to be reprogrammed as a normal CPU. That is how it is done in India where the machines have to cater for many possible candidates in each constituency. PLDs or FPGAs are the way to go. India has 1.3 billion people and they can handle the stress of voting with dispatch. Yet the US supposedly so advanced is mired in what even Third World countries are laughing at. Perhaps it was all done deliberately with a view. I mean the voting machines should have the integrity of modern ATMs, anything less cannot be relied on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_India#:~:text=The%20Indian%20electronic%20voting%20machine,Industrial%20Design%20Centre%2C%20IIT%20Bombay.

  • I listened to the podcast. No honest person will object to implementing an election system that minimizes fraud. The root problem is that this is not normative with people in the West today. Jonathan emotes about hacked voting machines but by far the most effective means is hacked minds i.e. control of the media. If you are truly interested in democracy, in honesty, then you will be ever vigilant about both. If not you are deluding yourself about love of honesty and are just one of the educated herd.

    In Ancient Egypt that which was essential for passing judgement and entry into eternal life was being found “True of voice’ and never having tipped the scales. It was also considered a divine gift, Maat, i.e. those who practiced were given more and those who did not had it taken from them. I see it being taken away by the day.

    • Replies: @Nancy
    @Jack McArthur

    Is this somewhat akin to the 'divine mandate of heaven' that supposedly legitimated the Chinese ruler, and could be lost?

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    , @Kevin Barrett
    @Jack McArthur

    "Jonathan emotes about hacked voting machines but by far the most effective means is hacked minds i.e. control of the media." That is an excellent point. In this election, MSM was hacked for Biden, while the machines were hacked for Trump.

  • @Nancy
    @Jack McArthur

    Is this somewhat akin to the 'divine mandate of heaven' that supposedly legitimated the Chinese ruler, and could be lost?

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    The Mandate of Heaven (Tianming), also known as Heaven’s Mandate, was the divine source of authority and the right to rule of China’s early kings and emperors. The ancient god or divine force known as Heaven or Sky had selected this particular individual to rule on its behalf on earth. An important element of the mandate was that although the ruler had been given great power he also had a moral obligation to use it for the good of his people, if he did not then his state would suffer terrible disasters and he would lose the right to govern.

    https://www.ancient.eu/Mandate_of_Heaven/

    This recalls the opening of the Pyramid Texts when the Sky declares that the King is Her son and also the gospels when the voice from the sky declares the same thing. Living myth drawn from the same spiritual archetype.

  • @Dago Shoes
    @Jack McArthur

    Lots of 'shoulds' there … not much reality.

    Read these 3 articles and let US know your thoughts …

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/05/even-recounts-can-be-fraudulent/

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/05/fractional-magic-ballot-tampering/

    http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-2/

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    The issue of why election software should contain floating point variables rather than long interger is not especially relevant to the issue I raised because the whole point is to remove the most likely attack points for hacking i.e. the counting machine proposed above is designed to eliminate custom software and firmware so the points of entry are eliminated.

    The counters can be recorded and witnessed by representatives of the candidates involved. The chain of vote collation is similarly open to the same level of inspection.

    Simple spreadsheets rather than custom software is all that is needed and brings the maximum of transparency to the proceeding because each party is in effect paralleling, if they choose, the government chain of collation.

    I remenber from c. 1970’s when a Soviet pilot defected with plane to the West. Initial reports ridiculed the “primitive” technology because the front end contained tubes rather than semiconductors but an electronic engineer pointed out that it was encased in a Faraday cage and rather than being primitive in concept the tube design was deliberately chosen because they were expected to survive the EMP of an atomic bomb whereas any semiconductor based design would be destroyed.

    The point is that software and CPU based electoral counting systems are not inherently secure and more basic “primitive” methods with human oversight seem preferable.

    As an aside I guess some electronics engineers started to take an interest in restoring old AM tube radios from their grandparents lofts because of the Soviet plane mentioned above (hoping no doubt it would never be needed in practice).

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Jack McArthur

    Why computers at all? India, with three times the voting population as the US and its photo ID, uses paper. Voting day is Constitutionally mandated, the deadline for results is the weeks later. Verifiable paper and verifiable in person voting only. The KISS method is always the best method.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @ivan

    There is no programmable computer in the counting machine described above. A dumb machine like that is not subject to human error or fraud by the polling station staff e.g. miscounting or wrong allocation i.e. it eliminates both sources of possible frauds. The case is also important. For reasons which I have no intention of publically describing, it is not possible to guarantee detection of covert production change which can load or reset the counters but it is possible to prevent them being engaged during the count by shielding.

  • At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges. It’s possible that he will, but what do you think is more likely? If he doesn’t prevail, however, Biden’s “win” can actually be a tremendous win for us. Why? Well, first let’s address the question of who “we” are....
  • “But it’s useful to remind ourselves of who we are from time to time. We are White Nationalist”

    Nope.

    • Agree: botazefa
  • Ron Unz may be the most important figure in alternative media. His latest article “Glenn Greenwald Escapes His $100 Million Webzine” examines the massive pre-election suppression of news about Biden corruption scandals. Tonight we’ll discuss our respective takes on the ongoing train wreck of an election, as well as the censorship epidemic surrounding and feeding...
  • To pick up on one point raised in the podcast – gab.com not only had Visa withdraw its facilities but the guy who runs it had his and families personal Visa cards withdrawn. The current Covid situation is accelerating the advance of the cashless society but that means the very bad people who want to suppress the truth would now have the means to starve into submision any annoying whistleblower.

    Can Kevin advise if the author of the self published book in question is Jewish? The Jewish lobby, groups like the ADL, project onto their perceived foes the very thing they practice.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack McArthur

    Isn't there a contract between VISA and the customers . If the fine print means it can be set aside at VISA's choice and whim, then the contract is a fraud, which is a crime. ???

  • “What’s going to happen now?” I was asked earlier today. “Nothing and everything,” I replied. Immigration, largely unchallenged and unscathed (excepting the incidental impact of COVID-19 on population movement) from four years of Trumpism, will now continue to accelerate unabated. Zionism will continue to enjoy the expansion of American institutional and military support, this time...
  • I feel particular sorrow for ordinary decent Americans, in what today should be the land of plenty for all, who are having to witness this horrible implosion of their country and values. Other than divine intervention there is no hope. The media, money markets and political classes are either directly run by the same children of a devil or by loathsome gentiles who have taken the Judas coin or who are cowards in fear of their miserable life’s.

    What is life if it means cowering down in the face of evil? An ancient voice trying to tell this strange world that you are controlled by an evil power and that your eternal fate is determined by how you respond to it i.e. join the freak show or stand up like a true man or woman and tell them no.

    The writer of this essay is a man of culture, with wide interests. There are not many left. Compare him to the moronic voices of today with their narrow perverted interests and weep for what faces you.

    • Replies: @goldgettin
    @Jack McArthur

    Excellent diagnosis.In time the pendulum swings.The tide turns
    because it has to.Changing reality is not easy or smart.They will learn.

    , @HallParvey
    @Jack McArthur


    The media, money markets and political classes are either directly run by the same children of a devil or by loathsome gentiles who have taken the Judas coin or who are cowards in fear of their miserable life’s.
     
    They all have something in common. The people who are involved in each of the professions listed are almost all lawyers.

    Perhaps, instead of protesting the actions of the members of those groups, people who seem to be unhappy with the way things are should enroll in law school and become lawyers.

    Infiltrate the swamp and defeat it from inside since it can't be drained.
    , @Rev. Spooner
    @Jack McArthur

    I watch this downward spiral with sadness tinged with relief. I have my reasons, and the foremost being that America is not a free country; I consider it an occupied nation. That this un-free nation (USA) also controls Germany, UK, Japan, S Korea, Australia etc., means that the usury masters also indirectly control them.
    Since the 1913's the rot took root in the USA with the establishment of the Federal Reserve and it's growing deeper since then. I do not think that the Americans can deal with it or rid themselves of this parasitic growth.
    Pardon me if I look forward to the ruin of the USA. I do that because I love this world and would rather see infected and parasitically controlled hosts destroyed if they cannot heal themselves.

    , @Aristotle
    @Jack McArthur

    BLM is a stupid and nasty organisation but it does make one think about the nature of colonisation. It is not what you think. We have for instance been "colonised" by BLM, these self righteous morons with their fake history. We have also been colonised by the money men, the bourgeoisie, who have taken all our assets and now seek cheaper golems to exploit.

  • After playing Jesus in Mel Gibson’s blockbuster film The Passion of the Christ, actor Jim Caviezel became the poster boy for Catholics who wanted to use the film to share their faith. Playing that role also got Caviezel blacklisted from Hollywood films. In 2011, Caviezel told First Baptist Church in Orlando, Florida that he had...
  • The actor seems to speak wisdom in his own way as does E. Michael. Jones in what I have read. The murder of the Iranian general is maybe simply ignorance rather than selling out – is there a welfare system which supports truth speakers who become unemployable? Shia/Catholic v Sunni/Protestant – the same old archetypes being played out for eternal purposes.

  • The Vatican has provoked intense debate and outrage with the release of the McCarrick Report, a 400+ page summary of the Church's investigation into the sex crime spree of former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. From 1993 to 2016, Cardinal McCarrick was repeatedly accused by laity, seminarians and priests from around the world of being a homosexual...
  • @Observator
    Some historians have documented that ritual pedophilia was an integral part of earliest Christian practice. In the ancient world the fairest and brightest –and undefiled- children were selected at an early age to be trained as priests and priestesses of the gods in adulthood. By sodomizing these children, early Christian clergy believed (or rationalized) that they were literally saving their souls by rendering them ineligible to serve the devil, which was their bigoted judgment of all rival religious traditions. There are valid reasons why educated Romans denounced Christians as “the haters of mankind” and tried to eradicate the repulsive little cult.

    In Germany in 1935 – 36 approximately a thousand Bavarian Catholics were arrested and charged by local prosecutors with sexually abusing children entrusted to their care. Slightly more than half of those indicted were convicted at trial. Goebbels accused the Catholic Church of fostering a culture within which pedophilia was tolerated and even encouraged, but this of course was denounced as yet another Nazi "big lie".

    It is however a successful conservative big lie that raping children is a normative aspect of homosexuality. It is in fact criminal, the same way that normal heterosexual behavior does not include molesting lttle girls.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Parsnipitous

    “There are valid reasons why educated Romans denounced Christians as “the haters of mankind” and tried to eradicate the repulsive little cult”

    Tacitus thought they were a Jewish sect and repeats what Diodorus Siculus wrote about the Jews.
    https://www.loebclassics.com/view/diodorus_siculus-library_history/1933/pb_LCL423.55.xml?readMode=recto

    I do not know sources for the other matters you describe.

  • Withnail & I (1987) is a masterpiece of British dark-comic satire written and directed by actor, novelist, and screenwriter Bruce Robinson, who went on to write and direct How to Get Ahead in Advertising (1989), another strong film in a similar vein. His career seems to have petered out, though, after a couple of flops,...
  • ” It is ninety-one days to the end of the decade, and as Presuming Ed here has so consistently pointed out, we have failed to paint it black”.

    An interesting anecdote regarding Paint in Black (the video should start at the correct point)

    Video Link

    They released the Satanic Majesties album the following year. I wonder if The Devils Advocate movie, which used Paint it Black, influenced the making of the Matrix which seemed to be a desperate attempt to avoid the most obvious conclusion i.e. a distractor.

    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
    @Jack McArthur

    Great vid!

    Thanks for sharing.

  • As some of you may remember, late last year I briefly considered running ads on this website, but soon decided against it because the ads seemed too trashy or boring, and therefore distracted and annoyed me. I assume that many regular readers of our webzine had much the same reaction. I've never been fervently opposed...
  • @adreadline
    Well, there I draw the line. I'm fine with whoever looks at my screen while I'm browsing the Unz Review seeing articles titled "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century'', but I'm not fine with them thinking I'm into fisting upon seeing that ad with the closed hand that was obviously originally skin colored and then made dark cyan with the fill tool in Photoshop.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Smurfs lives matter

  • Even though there was virtually no debate on foreign policy during the recent presidential campaign, there has been considerable discussion of what President Joe Biden’s national security team might look like. The general consensus is that the top levels of the government will be largely drawn from officials who previously served in the Obama administration...
  • @anon
    USA is dead, long live USA. We now officially live in JUSA, the New Weimar Republic. Actually we have been for almost 70 years, since the Cultural Revolution. America is no longer a Christian nation but a Jew nation, with all that that entails - greed, unscrupulousness, end justifies means, intolerance for dissent, mass deception, hypocrisy, over sensitivity, pleasure seeking, sexual deviance, narcissism, vengeful and punitive.

    Jews now basically control all institutions of import in this country, from Wall Street to Hollywood, DC to Silicon Valley, and everywhere in between, the media, academia, judiciary, deep state including all of DOJ and the State department. Using their control of Big Tech, they can censor and suppress all dissent. Websites that try to go their own way like Alex Jones or Gab.com have trouble monetizing themselves and face constant media and left wing harrassment. They control both msm and the "conservative" media like WSJ, FoxNews, Breitbart, Zerohedge, National Review...all are just controlled opposition. No matter who is in the white house, we get the same things: Zionism, globalism, corporatism, endless wars, endless immigration.

    How did they do it? Not just by controlling banks and profiting off wars that they instigated, but by selling sin. Jews own the entire sin industry. From the opium trade to the slave trade, tobacco trade, Bootlegging, JUUL, Opiod, marijuana, alcohol, Victoria's Secret, casinos and brothels in Vegas, HBO soft porn to hardcore porn, all are owned by Jews. Sin is an industry where supply creates demand, not the other way around. Using their lawyers, they first make it all legal, then make it fashionable. As Andrew Joyce so aptly put, "sordid commercial exploitation of vice", that is what Jews excel in.

    The sin industry is a trillion dollar industry, and many of those trillions have been siphoned off to Israel, along with all the money from Wall Street swindling and the weapons industry. We are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from the rest of the world to Israel.

    China-Russia-Iran may provide the world with an alternative for the future, if they can hold off this Jewish scorch, but the West is done for. We have nothing but decline, which will be hastened by Biden/Harris. Someone needs to keep reminding the Chinese it was a Jew David Sassoon who ran the opium trade and forced the two opium wars on them. Never forget, never surrender!

    Replies: @Achilles Wannabe, @geokat62, @Moi, @Ugetit, @Katrinka, @John Q Duped, @Jack McArthur, @phillip sawicki, @Cauchemar du Singe, @Wizard of Oz, @Justsaying

    A fine analysis. I would add in one more group to your list i.e. the Christian churches who daily play the part of Judas.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
    @Jack McArthur

    If any minister, pastor, or priest starts to sermonize about Judeo-Christian commonality, head straight out the door. Christians and Jews have no common ground. In fact, the modern Jewish religion was created as a response to Christianity. It is Pharisaism based on the Talmud, not the Old Testament.
    http://judaism.is/judeo-christian.html
    https://keruxreplies.blogspot.com/2010/06/judeo-christian-is-oxymoron.html

  • @anon
    USA is dead, long live USA. We now officially live in JUSA, the New Weimar Republic. Actually we have been for almost 70 years, since the Cultural Revolution. America is no longer a Christian nation but a Jew nation, with all that that entails - greed, unscrupulousness, end justifies means, intolerance for dissent, mass deception, hypocrisy, over sensitivity, pleasure seeking, sexual deviance, narcissism, vengeful and punitive.

    Jews now basically control all institutions of import in this country, from Wall Street to Hollywood, DC to Silicon Valley, and everywhere in between, the media, academia, judiciary, deep state including all of DOJ and the State department. Using their control of Big Tech, they can censor and suppress all dissent. Websites that try to go their own way like Alex Jones or Gab.com have trouble monetizing themselves and face constant media and left wing harrassment. They control both msm and the "conservative" media like WSJ, FoxNews, Breitbart, Zerohedge, National Review...all are just controlled opposition. No matter who is in the white house, we get the same things: Zionism, globalism, corporatism, endless wars, endless immigration.

    How did they do it? Not just by controlling banks and profiting off wars that they instigated, but by selling sin. Jews own the entire sin industry. From the opium trade to the slave trade, tobacco trade, Bootlegging, JUUL, Opiod, marijuana, alcohol, Victoria's Secret, casinos and brothels in Vegas, HBO soft porn to hardcore porn, all are owned by Jews. Sin is an industry where supply creates demand, not the other way around. Using their lawyers, they first make it all legal, then make it fashionable. As Andrew Joyce so aptly put, "sordid commercial exploitation of vice", that is what Jews excel in.

    The sin industry is a trillion dollar industry, and many of those trillions have been siphoned off to Israel, along with all the money from Wall Street swindling and the weapons industry. We are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from the rest of the world to Israel.

    China-Russia-Iran may provide the world with an alternative for the future, if they can hold off this Jewish scorch, but the West is done for. We have nothing but decline, which will be hastened by Biden/Harris. Someone needs to keep reminding the Chinese it was a Jew David Sassoon who ran the opium trade and forced the two opium wars on them. Never forget, never surrender!

    Replies: @Achilles Wannabe, @geokat62, @Moi, @Ugetit, @Katrinka, @John Q Duped, @Jack McArthur, @phillip sawicki, @Cauchemar du Singe, @Wizard of Oz, @Justsaying

    Well written and informative. They also own (and control) most churches and long ago rewrote the Bible. And of course they create and own money.

    • Agree: Jack McArthur
  • Whilst human beings conspiring is as old … nevertheless the Biden family is an example of something way, way beyond human artifice. You do not have to be a Christian to recognize that what Jesus said of the Jews was right on the mark – their father is a devil. The New Testament says explicitly that the ruler of this world is the Satanic Majesties the Rolling Stones celebrated in 1967.

    Jesus was offered the entire world if he would take the knee not to Saint George of this sick era but to satan. He replied that this was the epitome of shortermism.

    People are no more than puppets on a string without divine protection and that is why I do not hate Jews but only the vile evil in which they excel through the “gifts” of their spiritual father.

    • Thanks: Per/Norway
  • “It is time for all Americans, including Jews, to accept that Israel is a foreign country that must make its own decisions and thereby suffer the consequences.”

    You’re still walking on eggshells, Giraldi. You’re either having problem understanding or are in deliberate need to evade the issue of a Jew not needing to practice Jewism (my definition of a complete Jew), that is to say, separate himself from Israel… no Jew can nor will do so. Hence, America is either stuck with them or will have to declare that Jews, and only Jews, aren’t part of this great experiment called United States of America. It’ll hurt like hell to be divorced from present reality but at least this nation, without any natural enemies, will have a fighting chance of being a truly great country within the commity of nations. So long as a single Jew remains in America, there isn’t any chance of having daylight between two separate nations. So, what’s going to be, slavery with comfort or freedom with sacrifices?

  • @phillip sawicki
    @anon

    Excellent article by Giraldi. US subservience to Israel goes back to Harry Truman. When the US recognized Israel within ten minutes of its founding in 1948, Truman explained that "I have 600,000 Jews and no Arabs." It was that point that control over US foreign policy shifted from Washington to Tel Aviv. In 1992 George Ball (former number two at the State Department) and his son Douglas published 'The Passionate Attachment," explaining how it had evolved over the years. In 2007 came the Mearsheimer/Walt book on AIPAC. For a critical history of Israel wince Biblical times, see Laurent Guyenot's book From Yahweh to Zion, published in 2018. The last-named says that Israel is responsible for JFK's death. He had tried to stop Israel's nuclear weapons program and thus was killed. The Warren Report covered up that particular crime. Jews are a tremendously talented tribe, but they have no right to dominate the world, which is what Israel is now determined to do.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Your observation is confirmed by Lord Beaverbrook explaining to the young Robert Kennedy at the end of WW2 that the USA was a subjugated country run by Jews.

  • French President Emmanuel Macron came to attention recently with a long interview in which he criticized the German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer. “AKK,” who is also the leader of the ruling Christian-Democratic Union (CDU) and heir-apparent to replace Angela Merkel, had written in an op-ed for Politico: “Illusions of European strategic autonomy must come to...
  • The EU is totally vulnerable to the tribe because of the 12 unelected anti-apostles, almost certainly grand orient, who run it, and who can be picked off without any trouble when most convenient. Macron is just another little puppet who has as much free will as the elasticity of his strings allow. He is so low in the satanic hierarchy he barely rates a mention.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Jack McArthur

    At least he has some kind of overview. While - as I think of Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, my heart sinks. And sinks. Think of a (decent) mayor of a Palatian city of 100 000 inhabitants: That's what she is capable of without problems. She tries to lead the CDU, but she has not much of a clue, what that might mean or how that should work out. That already shows her losing her direction. A truly provincial figure lost on the international scene. Often times, she doesn't even know how to dress in a way that would allow her to feel comfortable. Now - if you compare her to Emmanuel Macron, Victor Orban or Sebastian Kurz or Boris Johnson - - - .

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • The moment Donald Trump drove through the MillionMAGA march to play golf was the moment America’s fate was sealed. It was as if the Continental Army had marched to Valley Forge, only to see Washington saddle up and head back home for the winter, giving his men a kind word and dismissive wave as he...
  • Why the word “populist”? Everyone loves to use it but in reality how popular was Trump and with whom ? The Jews got what they wanted and stayed home, the LGBT people found a champion but didn’t vote for him either and it appears the Black criminals he freed from prison didn’t spread the good news about the Great White Father to their bros. So at the end of the day it was the lowly White taxpaying blue collar patriots who turned out and all they were asking for was to be able to keep their God given rights.

    • Agree: Realist, Jack McArthur
    • Replies: @DaveE
    @Clay Alexander


    The Jews got what they wanted and stayed home,
     
    The Jews don't just stay home, EVAH. They're the most sadistically and demonically driven sociopaths of all history.

    While I agree with all your points, I think that you, the author of this piece and probably Trump himself are vastly under - understanding the power of Zion, a force for evil hitherto unseen on this planet.

    All the "grassroots organizing ", hanging out with "da' boys" looking for a photo op and catchy Twitter sloganeering won't amount to a scratch on Zion's fingernail - and Zion knows it. It probably took all Trump's energy to keep Shlomo from starting a war (WWIII) with Iran, much less gutting the entire MSM of zionist operatives to tell us what we're all up against.

    My only hope is that Trump is using loyal intel assets (if they exist) to fight clandestinely, Israeli style, and is at least draining a puddle or two. I suspect that - now that Trump has been so humiliated by Shlomo and the election stolen from him, we might see a little fight from him. But you ain't gonna hear about it on the Crooked Nose Network or the Wall Street Urinal, that much is certain.

    Some have said that Trump had DHS watermark all the mailed ballots, to be tracked and accounted for, which would certainly be a (potential) game changer, if true. If it IS true and I pray it may be so, Trump will be a hero and not the sniveling weasel he looks to be at the moment.

    But we shall see.

  • Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Graham Greene wrote that most men’s lives have a turning point; a point of no return. (He added that they do not recognize it at the time.) I have always believed that this can be said of institutions and countries. Many commenters on this webzine have likewise been interested in this concept during recent years. These commenters have speculated upon when that moment occurred for the United States. Please correct me if you disagree, but I believe that the most common candidates for “the moment” of death were: (1) The Kennedy assassination, and (2) The immigration act of 1965. Of course, it can be logically argued that (2) occurred as a consequence if (1).

    The non-occurring rallying speech by Mr. Trump was not the moment America died, because America’s fate was sealed a long time ago. The unraveling was already quite irreversible.

    • Thanks: Dumbo
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    There was no moment. Christian leadership failed this country.

    The Romans knew better.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    , @RoatanBill
    @Anon

    You could also go back to that POS Lincoln and one would definitely have to include the creation of the Federal Reserve because it supplied and still supplies all the funny money the filth in gov't needs for their nefarious purposes.

    , @lysias
    @Anon

    The Roman Republic was probably already doomed with the murder of the Gracchi, but that didn't stop Augustus Caesar from extending the life of the Roman Empire by several centuries.

    , @SC Rebel
    @Anon

    The death march began in 1865, in my opinion.

    The War of Northern Aggression was the last fight against a tyrannical federal government that clearly overstepped their bounds. But Reconstruction wore the Southern spirit down. Nathan Bedford Forrest made a valiant attempt to revitalize that spirit, but sadly no one took the baton from him.

    This “nation” is spiritually dead. Turning away from the Lord Jesus Christ has led us to this point.

    As much as I would like to believe that a Biden presidency will awaken the normies, I just see no sign of that. The Million MAGA March appears to be Tea Party Part Deux. That “movement” died quickly and so will this one.

    The reality is that as long as Christians and “conservatives” believe that this corrupt system can be reformed and aren’t willing to fight and replace it with something else that is based on the foundation that Jesus is King and none other, we are doomed to fail.

  • Christianity is dead in the west even most politicians don’t touch it anymore probably in fear of being labeled a “homophobe” and the stress and attention that will bring to any climbing politician.

    In fact nothing has done more damage to Christianity than gay rights in recent years, it was already on the decline but the homo lobby gave the head shot.

    Talking of gays wasn’t one of the last leaders of the Roman Empire Elagabalus a 14 year old transvestite, after a very short reign they tired of him and they stabbed him up and flung his body in the river Tiber Julius Ceasar he was not.

    There’s a direct link between a fall of an empire and the caliber of its leaders, ask the Russians about Gorbachev and Yeltsin.

    • Agree: bruce county, Jack McArthur
    • Replies: @Papinian
    @Mark154

    I think you're off by a couple hundred years with Elegabalus. He was one of those emperors who reigned in the aftermath of Septimius Severus, right? After Caracalla killed Gaeta at dinner, Caracalla slaughtered his way through the empire for a couple years, but was murdered by, uh... Macrinus? I think? Who reigned for a couple months, and then Caracalla's mother's (Julia Domna) sister's kid, Alexander Severus briefly reigned. And then there was Elegabalus, his younger brother. But this was all between the Antonines and Constantine, way before Alaric and those guys.

    Anyway, Gibbon says that of the first several hundred years of the Empire, there was only one emperor whose sexual appetites were "entirely correct". Most notable for deviancy other than Elegabalus and Nero were probably Commodus and Hadrian. We still have statues of a young man, Antinous, whom Hadrian loved. I think it was routine for powerful men to satisfy themselves with their dependents. To say nothing of the Greeks!

  • @metternich
    A big moment in history found only a pitiful self absorbed unprepared clown in charge, fitting for this rootless excuse of a country so lacking in everything that matters and excelling only in the most trivial for a bit of time. There is exactly zero chance of him doing anything right at this point, he screwed up EVERYthing the last 4 years when he had all the time and odds in his favor, his supporters fired up, him in control of the levers of power. But he did his best to sabotage any possible positive development, put the worst neocon scum in charge, left the gates wide open for all the little vermin to crawl in and eat the apple from inside while he was enjoying his 15 minutes of vacuous fame. now its simply too late, he is an empty puppet and will be discarded soon enough.
    USA dethroned as world´s bully will leave lots of vacuum that nature wants to fill. This is my only hope. In ways yet unfathomable something will grow into that empty space eventually from different parts of the world.
    Europe seems to mummify even further every year and our only promising attempt at rebirth was botched and aborted 80 years ago. China as the perfectly mechanized but completely pointless collective cant provide any adequate solutions for occidental mankind.
    Russia is the prime hopeful here, with spiritual and structural resources barely tapped, Putin the still democratically contaminated miracle leader might be doing the right thing and setting up a crypto aristocracy based on spartan / prussian principles fused with orthodox religion, a very potent mix that could provide the much needed lighttower in this sea of darkness we are entering.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Dave Bowman

    Coincidentally I was thinking today of a famous stele with your name showing the child Horus as savior standing on top of the enemy and Genesis 3:15.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur

    The text in part relates to the myth of Isis, the child Horus and their enemy in the form of Set-Apophis who have a correspondence to Satan-devil in later times (echoed directly in Genesis 3:15).

  • @Jack McArthur
    @metternich

    Coincidentally I was thinking today of a famous stele with your name showing the child Horus as savior standing on top of the enemy and Genesis 3:15.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    The text in part relates to the myth of Isis, the child Horus and their enemy in the form of Set-Apophis who have a correspondence to Satan-devil in later times (echoed directly in Genesis 3:15).

  • French President Emmanuel Macron came to attention recently with a long interview in which he criticized the German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer. “AKK,” who is also the leader of the ruling Christian-Democratic Union (CDU) and heir-apparent to replace Angela Merkel, had written in an op-ed for Politico: “Illusions of European strategic autonomy must come to...
  • @Dieter Kief
    @Jack McArthur

    At least he has some kind of overview. While - as I think of Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, my heart sinks. And sinks. Think of a (decent) mayor of a Palatian city of 100 000 inhabitants: That's what she is capable of without problems. She tries to lead the CDU, but she has not much of a clue, what that might mean or how that should work out. That already shows her losing her direction. A truly provincial figure lost on the international scene. Often times, she doesn't even know how to dress in a way that would allow her to feel comfortable. Now - if you compare her to Emmanuel Macron, Victor Orban or Sebastian Kurz or Boris Johnson - - - .

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    With a first name like that he had a lot to live up to and the question posed by his name arises which one? The movie world pinned it to a porn star in the 1970’s but such is the hatered of the dark to the light.

    I just see the EU as one large component which will easily be integrated into a monolithic one world at the correct moment with the spirit of the Talmud being its driving force – demonic.

  • From KTLA in Los Angeles: That's quite a name. There were only 30,000 votes cast in the Hawthorne mayor's race, so 8,000 fraudulent registrations submitted bespeaks of energy and ambition. Although perhaps De Bourbon-Montenegro might have called a little too much attention to his scheme. He is also suspected of falsifying names, addresses and signatures...
  • Note the Egyptian symbols he uses so maybe he knows a couple of the declarations the deceased had to be able to say before the throne of Osiris iẹ. “I have not tipped the scales of balance” and “I have not committed fraud”.

    Somebody mentioned Crowley above who was described in the media as “the most evil man in the world” (some might say they were doing so from within a large glass house) but Crowley opposed abortion and maybe this is a classic example of the precept that Jesus taught iẹ. “do not judge…” especially if you pass yourself off as a devout catholic but as a politician you have been responsible for countless dismemberments, limb by limb, of babies in their mothers wombs.

    By a strange coincidence the Church whom Crowley spoofed into printing a book about the mother of Jesus , the papal printers Burns & Oates, would later in the 20th century be the same church which held the line about abortion when the laws relating to them came under sustained attack.

  • There is a striking contrast for the historian between how popular culture portrays National Socialism and how the historians present it. In popular culture, the portrayal is uniformly negative, to the point that National Socialism becomes a wholly incomprehensible phenomenon. At the same time, Nazi aesthetics and themes - whether or not these are framed...
  • “Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.”

    Julius Streicher the publisher of the so called “virulently anti-Semitic” Der Sturmer, was disgusted by the portrayal of Jesus in the Talmud but nobody calls out the Jews as being virulently anti-Christian although the spirit of the Talmud is exactly that from the passages which I have read recently.

    Incidentally Streicher, whilst waiting for his turn at the kangaroo court in Nuremberg, had the guards force “open his mouth two or three times a day so that they could spit into it…forced him to drink out of the urinal.. eat putrid leftovers” as well as being beaten around the genitals daily. (p. 51). Yes that sure taught the evil Nazis to behave like the blessed allies and learn how civilized people operate.

    Of the 22 on the initial Nuremberg hit list of major German players who would be subject to predetermined verdicts by hypocrites 13 were Lutheran, 5 Catholic and the remaining 4 who listed themselves as “non-sectarian” (p. 104, Nuremberg, Irvine).

    Adolf Hitler. Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels were all formed as Catholics which reflects the profile of the early National Socialist movement – see “Catholicism & The Roots of Nazism” (Derek Hastiings, Oxford University Press),

    People who are critical of Christianity because of a perceived passivity based on how the Churches have been transformed in Judeo-Christianity are being seriously misled and should research how Jews and Judaisers were not allowed to do what they do today which is a very modern phenomena. They were regarded, based on the words of Jesus, as the children of the devil because that is the way they behaved.

    • Replies: @Munga Bulga
    @Jack McArthur

    The clown trial called Nürnbergprozess is the biggest evidence why the (((west))) deserves to be exterminated.
    What they did to Streicher wasn't even the worse. Not one unrepentant bastard will escape divine judgement.
    Hope the kikes, amerimutts and their other lackeys enjoy what is to come.

  • Jérôme Fourquet’s The French Archipelago provides a kind of dynamic radioscopy of the French nation as she has developed in recent decades. The picture, as detailed in my review of the book, is one of the fading away of the old sociological left and right, leaving behind a fragmented subcultural and political landscape, divided in...
  • “[1] Of course, traditional norms are not uniformly adaptive in an evolutionary sense. In Catholic Europe, the specific expression of these norms was partially determined in a top-down fashion by the particular doctrines of the Church. Several important Catholic doctrines may be considered maladaptive or dysgenic, notably the the sacralization of fetuses (retarding the development of medical technologies), the ban on abortion, and the drive to convert all human beings to the faith regardless of ethnicity.”

    The so called most evil man in the world Alasteir Crowley wrote that abortion was the sin against the Holy Spirit – the one that cannot be forgiven. He seemed to indicate mercy towards women who had been hoodwinked by the clever into killing their babies so I think his opinion was directed to those who promoted abortion.

    You write like Jew and its not surprising that Jews are the promoters of some of the most evil forms of abortion. Elsewhere I have written about connections between the Hyksos and Jews that supports the claims of Josephus and links the Aecient Egyptian god Seth (the proto Satan) with the god of the Jews. Perhaps not coincidentally Seth was associated with abortion (undesired) in Ancient Egyptian mythology.

    The Greek writer Dioderus Siculus described how a pregnant women convicted of a capital crime in Ancient Egypt was allowed to give birth before execution because it was unjust to take the life of an innocent. The Greek way of infanticide was maybe picked up through their relationship with the Hyksos post Exodus from Egypt.

    You write about the sacralization of fetuses and this recalls the Bes Coffins carrying the remains of stillborn births in Ancient Egypt that were regarded as babies and buried as humans. The most famous example comes from the tomb of Tutankhamun in which his presumed offspring is given the name Osiris – the god of resurrection. Then again a text from Ancient Egypt describes how babies in their mothers wombs have their face turned towards Osiris.

    • Thanks: Pheasant
  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • @Pincher Martin
    @Ron Unz


    Unlike myself, you seem heavily focused on stylistic issues, including Lane’s poor style and Talbot’s “mood music.” Personally, I’m more interested in the facts.
     
    Talbot is all style. His entire argument is built on style. There is no other argument in his book other than the Manichean one of turning the Kennedys into Gods and military men into demons, and that approach relies entirely on his style.

    Even you, Ron, don't think there is anything to Talbot's argument. You know how I know that? Because his argument runs against the grain of everything you claim to believe about Kennedy's presidency. The same is true of Douglass' book.

    Didn't you claim last year that too many conspiracy theorists lose people by glorifying the Kennedy administration? Yet that is exactly what Talbot and Douglass do. Their work relies entirely on turning Kennedy into a Sun God who, as soon as he was re-elected, would show us all the light by ending the Cold War, removing our troops from Vietnam, and even recognizing Red China.

    It was all going to happen, Ron, and then BANG, BANG, BANG the military-industrial complex struck him down.

    You seem to believe, for some strange reason, that you can take your Israel/Mossad/International Jewry thesis and graft it on to their works. But it doesn't work that way. There's nothing for you to graft onto because you can't graft onto a stylistic argument. It's like a cinephile trying to put The Exorcist into Citizen Kane. Even if he loves both movies, that won't work.

    So all you are left with are books drenched in a stylistic argument that Kennedy was so special that he had to be killed by his own state. You claim you disagree with that thesis, yet here you are promoting their work.

    It strikes me as rather odd that you focus so heavily on what you call Talbot’s “mood music” and completely ignore the very important facts he provides regarding RFK and JFK. I’d almost wonder if the long excerpt you quoted was intended to obfuscate these crucial issues.
     
    I'm not ignoring the RFK angle. I simply don't know enough facts about his assassination. Unlike some here, I refuse to engage in a discussion on a topic about which I'm uninformed. I know a lot about Robert Kennedy's life and politics; I just don't know much about his assassination.

    There's plenty to discuss about JFK's assassination, which is where 95% of the Kennedy conspiracy literature focuses anyway. Perhaps you ought to stop dancing around and zero in on what you think happened with JFK rather than change the subject to RFK.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Jack McArthur

    “turning Kennedy into a Sun God”

    He is a biblical David figure. On my birthday on 911 a few hours before the first plane hit the twin towers I was left was the unmistakable belief that like David JFK was beloved by God and that in ways I do not understand he stopped something happening that day which would have have had an even more devastating impact on the American psyche.

    It was a day a graces for me and I link it to the very title of this article – JFK was a Catholic and the year before I remembered him and his family on All Souls Day.

    When 911 happened the closing words of the speech which he was on his way to deliver before being gunned down in Dealy Plaza took on a special meaning as the events of 911 unfolded:

    “For as was written long ago ‘except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.’

    Those words from one of David’s psalms are even more relevant today in which the cities of the West are like Sodom and Gomorrah proclaiming their sin boldly unlike David who felt shame and wept bitter tears for his sins.

  • Perhaps the person acting the role of Pincher Martin is teaching something other than assassination theories on this island. Coincidentally this day and tomorrow by my reckoning are two special days in which the Ancient Egyptians went to the cemeteries and remembered the dead and especially the divine monarchy – not unlike All Souls Day. William Golding made a passing reference to Om Sety once (see last section of the Wiki article).

  • @Skeptikal
    Wow, this guy Pincher Martin has been posting nonstop for the past eight hours, judging by the time stamps.

    He must have all of these documents available on his computer.

    Or he has made all of these arguments before and is basically cutting and pasting.

    Must be a paying job.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @lysias

  • Jérôme Fourquet’s The French Archipelago provides a kind of dynamic radioscopy of the French nation as she has developed in recent decades. The picture, as detailed in my review of the book, is one of the fading away of the old sociological left and right, leaving behind a fragmented subcultural and political landscape, divided in...
  • @Guillaume Durocher
    @AaronB

    Very interesting comments. Thank you!

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Sorry to emote but you really always have struck me as a Jew in spirit and the satanic bilge you find interesting confirms it but then again some Greeks also claimed a relationship with Jews being “family” (Hyksos perhaps) no matter the hatred for the Greeks in the bible. Its is not an intellectual thing but rather of the spirit, You could read and discuss for all eternity and never get it.

  • @Guillaume Durocher
    @Vehmic Juryman

    Abortion is disproportionately used by low IQ individuals.

    In the United States, almost half of abortions involve Black women and one third of Black fetuses are aborted. Admittedly, we do not have such statistics for France and it is possible Muslims are less likely to use it because of their comparative social conservatism.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Rattus Norwegius

    And promoted by high IQ people who con the simple into doing what is evil and contrary to nature.

  • @Anon
    A true religion appeals to the very core of a peoples DNA, and ensure that it strengthens the group.

    Christianity (Catholisism) does neither. It is for everybody, and cherish the meek.

    It is a semitic chutzpah to its core.

    What we are seing in the west today is the inevitable victory of a slave religion whose very icon is a dying man on a cross. The desperate attempt to make this death the sign of a victory is to demand victory through weakness. You do not get more anti-nature than that.

    And the French have nowhere to turn, so nihilism is the new cult.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Its the conquest of death but its clear that in your chutzpah you know little about Christianity nor pre-Christian precedents.

  • @Rocha
    @Dum Spiro Spero

    No you don’t! The so-called traditionalist camp teach the same heresies and deny the same dogmas about salvation as the main heretical Church.
    In his Letter to Confused Catholics the arch deceiver Lefebvre states on pg 74 or thereabouts that Protestants, Muslims , Buddhists AND EVEN ANIMISTS can be saved by Baptism of Desire explicit and IMPLICIT!
    He then goes on to elaborate on these heresies when he tells an African boy that as long as he isn’t in a state of mortal sin he will be saved by BOD .
    This has lead to an immense confusion amongst the traditional catholics I know who now believe that a mortal sin is worse than original sin and thus debasing the foundational belief of the Catholic Church.
    The Church was contaminated by the American heresies of liberalism and puritanism before Vatican II. The main Church fell into the claws of liberalism and the ‘holier than thous’ reaffirmed their moral superiority by joining the traditional sects or the sedevacantists.
    I am lucky enough to have been catechized pre Vatican II and the majority of Catholics were not Puritans. Catholics sang, danced, smoked and drank with the best of them.
    The Pharisees like the poor will always be with us.
    Puritanism is a gnostic heresy which denies the DOGMA of the Catholic Faith that GOD CREATED A GOOD WORLD.

    Replies: @Dum Spiro Spero, @Joe Levantine, @Jack McArthur, @Rogue

    Papyri from Ancient Egypt show in post mortem judgment scenes a little boy (imo a symbol for innocence) pouring water over the person who is about to be judged. (Papyrus Totonto 978×43.1) or on entering paradise and being given new clothes (Nebseni) with the latter recalling a scene from the Book of Revelations. Egyptologists also refer sometimes to the “Baptism of the Pharaoh”.

    The moral argument is that an omnipotent god cannot be good if he created a weak human being prone to all sorts of temptation and then condemns him to eternal punishment for a finite crime. The NT can be read to support such an outcome and that was pretty much mainstream until modern times. I think JP2 recognized this troubled people and stated that though there was a hell no claims were to be made about anybody being in it.

    In Ancient Egypt there is a temporary hell which serves as payback for crimes done but it is followed by annihilation.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur

    He seems to have later backtracked on this:
    https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/are-there-souls-in-hell-right-now

    , @Rocha
    @Jack McArthur

    What a stupid comment. The Catholic Faith has the only explanation for the presence of evil in the world and the only remedy. Or do you deny the presence of evil?
    I judge things by their fruits and the fruits of Catholicism was the best civilization the world has ever seen in terms of intellectual activity, arts, music, social cohesion and welfare.
    The Reformation has brought us ugliness, slavery to a debt based financial system and CONSENSUS SCIENCE.
    We are now supposed to accommodate ourselves to a fictitious reality of a nonexistent virus and a nonexistent manmade climate change to usher in a new dystopian civilization of slavery, transhumanism and total control by an oligarchy bent on the extermination of 90% of mankind .

    Replies: @gotmituns, @Jack McArthur

  • @Jack McArthur
    @Rocha

    Papyri from Ancient Egypt show in post mortem judgment scenes a little boy (imo a symbol for innocence) pouring water over the person who is about to be judged. (Papyrus Totonto 978x43.1) or on entering paradise and being given new clothes (Nebseni) with the latter recalling a scene from the Book of Revelations. Egyptologists also refer sometimes to the "Baptism of the Pharaoh".

    The moral argument is that an omnipotent god cannot be good if he created a weak human being prone to all sorts of temptation and then condemns him to eternal punishment for a finite crime. The NT can be read to support such an outcome and that was pretty much mainstream until modern times. I think JP2 recognized this troubled people and stated that though there was a hell no claims were to be made about anybody being in it.

    In Ancient Egypt there is a temporary hell which serves as payback for crimes done but it is followed by annihilation.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Rocha

  • @Rocha
    @Jack McArthur

    What a stupid comment. The Catholic Faith has the only explanation for the presence of evil in the world and the only remedy. Or do you deny the presence of evil?
    I judge things by their fruits and the fruits of Catholicism was the best civilization the world has ever seen in terms of intellectual activity, arts, music, social cohesion and welfare.
    The Reformation has brought us ugliness, slavery to a debt based financial system and CONSENSUS SCIENCE.
    We are now supposed to accommodate ourselves to a fictitious reality of a nonexistent virus and a nonexistent manmade climate change to usher in a new dystopian civilization of slavery, transhumanism and total control by an oligarchy bent on the extermination of 90% of mankind .

    Replies: @gotmituns, @Jack McArthur

    I assume you are referring to the following passage I wrote:

    The moral argument is that an omnipotent god cannot be good if he created a weak human being prone to all sorts of temptation and then condemns him to eternal punishment for a finite crime. The NT can be read to support such an outcome and that was pretty much mainstream until modern times. I think JP2 recognized this troubled people and stated that though there was a hell no claims were to be made about anybody being in it.

    In Ancient Egypt there is a temporary hell which serves as payback for crimes done but it is followed by annihilation.

    Now you have the opportunity of explaining and convincing me of my stupidity – show me where I err and demonstrate you are not indulging in the sin of ecclesiolatry. Specifically justify what you seem to approve i.e. eternal punishment for a finite crime and why a conscience should be at ease by this.

    The other points you mention do not relate to anything I have written so please just stick to this single issue.

  • @Da's Reich
    @Pheasant

    I suppose I do mean Anglicanism, the British State and its officials that ran Ireland for many centuries were indeed Anglicans,

    Anglicanism became the 'established church' in Ireland and was funded by a 'tithe' on the meager earnings of the Irish peasantry, and the priests/vicars of Anglicanism live opulently even as the Irish starved and emigrated in their millions,

    The Catholic church in Ireland today has completely abandoned their flock to the corona scam and even the pope referred to us non mask wearers in a very negative manner,

    Add to that the fact that the covid vaccine contains cells of aborted humans and Catholics have been told by the church that it is ethical to take this vaccine even if you abhor abortion,

    It's very interesting watching the Catholic church cut its own throat.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Add to that the fact that the covid vaccine contains cells of aborted humans and Catholics have been told by the church that it is ethical to take this vaccine even if you abhor abortion,

    Thank you for highlighting this. I will not under any circumstances be vaccinated by such evil methods. The bishops in the US seem to think that if you murder a child many years ago it does not matter:

    “Given the urgency of this crisis, the lack of available alternative vaccines, and the fact that the connection between an abortion that occurred decades ago and receiving a vaccine produced today is remote, inoculation with the new COVID-19 vaccines in these circumstances can be morally justified,”

    https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/12/15/u-s-bishops-say-catholics-have-moral-responsibility-to-be-vaccinated-against-coronavirus/

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
    @Jack McArthur

    Thank you Sir

  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • I remember well on November 22 1983 I was in a bar with a friend when the newscaster warned that they were about to play an enhanced version of the Zapruder film. I was not a student of the assassination but had read Anthony Summers book in the late 70’s which elaborated in the doubts I had read in the early 70’s.

    He knew nothing about any conspiracy so I asked to him watch carefully and then say from which direction the head shot came from. He was of course shocked at what was shown but without any hesitation he said the shot came from the front and was perplexed when I told him Oswald was firing from the rear.

    I can well believe Oswald was involved yet was still a patsy i.e. fire across the motorcade as a demonstration of sorts but then himself be killed by his manipulators who had a real sharpshooter at the front.

    Incidentally Jewish assassins have a very long history e.g. the sicarii but millennia before that Ancient Egyptians texts describe people from that part of the world as liars and murderers which is echoed in the words of Jesus to the Jews:

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

  • Paul Craig Roberts’ Interview with the European magazine Zur Zeit (In This Time): English Translation: A few months ago it looked like the re-election of Trump was almost certain, but now there was a close race between Trump and Biden? What happen during the last months? In the months before the election, the Democrats used...
  • @Richard B

    Calls are being made for the arrest of Tucker Carlson, the only mainstream journalist who supported President Trump.
     
    They won't need to do anything that dramatic. They'll just water down his program until people lose interest. Judging from Friday's show they've already begun moving him in that direciton.

    This was noted by many of his viewers in the comment section of a video excerpt of the show posted on the Tucker Carlson Tonight facebook page. Sad. He did the best he could for as long as he could. But it does look like they've finally gotten to him.

    Who knows? Maybe they gave him the talk. You know. The one that starts, You've got such a nice family Tucker. It'd be a shame if anything happened to them.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “Who knows? Maybe they gave him the talk. You know. The one that starts, You’ve got such a nice family Tucker. It’d be a shame if anything happened to them”

    Indeed that was I guess the most common tactic during the Nuremberg trials (there is some evidence of this) and almost certainly the overtly show trials in bolshevik Russia. A person can be willing to give up their life for the good but balk at the persecution of their families.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Let’s Be Over and Done in ’21 Steve Sailer December 16, 2020 It’s only natural to be frightened of getting a needle stuck in your arm loaded with a novel vaccine developed at such a pace that few besides the optimistic President Trump believed it could be rolled...
  • OT: The world is starting to tell “Dumb American” jokes

    For example, “Textbooks (1) China, Age 4 ‘Solving Ordinary Differential Equations II’
    (2) USA, Age 4 ‘The Gay B.C.s by M.L. Webb’ (Courtesy of David Zhang on Twitter)

    The United States is increasingly becoming a target of worldwide ridicule because
    of its obsession with LGBT issues, childish level of math education, growing
    squalor of its cities, and most recently, the incompetent handling of the
    pandemic. Britain is becoming the next target of ridicule. Its mishandling
    of Brexit does not help

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Anon 2

    Brexit is not being "mishandled". It is being handled superbly, just the way the Elite want it.

    https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=22209

    , @Kyle
    @Anon 2

    The Chinese text book for 4 year olds is an english language diffy-q textbook. Everyone in China is just following the lead of smart successful Americans. How do we get everyone in America to do that?

  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • @Pincher Martin
    @Ron Unz


    Today, Jews are about 2% of the American population and something like 40% of the wealthiest Americans. You’re absolutely correct that back in 1963, Jews were a much, much smaller fraction of our wealthiest elite. But wealth, power, and political influence are not exactly the same thing.
     
    I agree, but I was responding to this comment by Laurent:

    ...you seem to take Israel in a very narrow sense. I take it, of course, in the larger sense, including all US mainstream owners who, to this day, are devoted to protect Israel.
     
    Well, in 1963, American Jews were not the "mainstream owners" of America.

    They had influence. They had money. They were in the process of acquiring enough assets to where one could later make the argument they were mainstream owners. And as you say, they pretty much owned Hollywood and other important entertainment assets.

    But they were not the "mainstream owners" of America. Not yet. John Kennedy didn't know a single Jew who was close to being as wealthy as his own father.

    *****

    Your argument also fails to consider that the "influence" of American Jews at that time was anti-establishment.

    * Even before JFK died, Hollywood was friendly to anti-government conspiracy films. They were a developing genre that became even more popular after his death. One can hardly argue then that Hollywood Jews were using their influence to stamp out talk of conspiracy.

    * The U.S. Jewish intelligentsia at the time, everyone from Jewish novelists to Jewish scholars, was friendly to JFK conspiracy mongering and indeed at the forefront of putting forward conspiracy theories out into the public. When Normal Mailer positively reviewed Mark Lane's book in the 1966 Village Voice, he was a prominent Jewish public intellectual reviewing a Jewish-authored book for what was predominantly a Jewish audience in the pages of a Mailer-owned (Jew-owned) paper. One can hardly argue then that the influence of Jews at the time was counter to promoting conspiracies.

    * The anti-FBI, anti-CIA, anti-Hoover, anti-Dulles perspective, which is common among JFK conspiracy theorists, was and is also very popular with American Jews, both at the time and since. They were, and are, happy to promote them. One can hardly argue then that this influence of Jews at the time was counter to the conspiracy talk going around.

    *****

    You novel contribution, Ron, is to take this long-standing interest by American Jews in conspiracies and anti-government talk and turn it back against them. But long before you showed up on the scene, and long before American Jews could ever be considered "mainstream owners" of the U.S., those American Jews were using their influence to promote anti-government conspiracies. So whatever influence they had at the time in 1963 was not mainstream in any sense.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Ron Unz, @Laurent Guyénot

    But they were not the “mainstream owners” of America. Not yet. John Kennedy didn’t know a single Jew who was close to being as wealthy as his own father.

    Schlesinger’s Robert Kennedy & His Times quotes Lord Beaverbrook in 1948 describing the United States as a “subjugated nation to a Jewish minority” and that Britain had become “a satellite to the United States”. He moved among all the movers and shakers of his day.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Aitken,_1st_Baron_Beaverbrook

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
    @Jack McArthur


    Schlesinger’s Robert Kennedy & His Times quotes Lord Beaverbrook in 1948 describing the United States as a “subjugated nation to a Jewish minority” and that Britain had become “a satellite to the United States”. He moved among all the movers and shakers of his day.
     
    Look, I can believe a hundred bad things about Jews before I have my breakfast in the morning, but I will roll my eyes at that 101st item.

    They are not supermen. They don't have the ability to make magic or cast charming spells that cause men to lose their goy minds.

    If you want to tell me that American Jews have a baleful influence on modern American society and politics, I'm with you. If you want to tell me that every bad thing that happens in the modern world, from the Great Depression to WW2 to the JFK assassination to the RFK assassination to just about everything else you don't like is the result of Jewish influence, sell that snake oil to someone else.
  • “Conspiracy theories have continued to rage for fifty years since that day, and were not put to rest by the Warren Commissions conclusion that there was a single shooter and a single bullet that killed President Kennedy and injured Governor Connally. The doctors at Parkland were the only ones who saw the neck wound before the emergency tracheotomy, and they were unanimous that the neck wound was an entry wound. In time, most, but not all, no longer would believe this”.

    However was this driven by:

    “Late in this project, I came upon a startling revelation in Dr. Ron Jones’s oral history. After taking his Warren Commission deposition at Parkland, chief counsel Arlen Specter told Jones, “We have people who would testify that they saw somebody shoot the president from the front. But we don’t want to interview them, and I don’t want you saying anything about that. either.”
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/book-4-john-f-kennedy-emergency-room-doctors-confirm-he-was-shot-from-front

    It is testimony like this which discredits the Warren Commission, i.e. beginning with a conclusion and producing a report to support it.

  • Taking a cue from the title of the article – amidst the sea of verbiage – here is a clip from the Monterey Festival in the summer of 67 in which David Crosby and the Byrd’s remember JFK. Because of what Crosby said on stage about the assassination the networks censored it.


    Video Link

    • Thanks: Iris
  • For much of my life I have been curious about the world, not so much wanting to know things as to understand them and, at various times I would attempt to satisfy that desire - usually by devouring every available book on the subject. I would read every book at the library that seemed useful...
  • As one example, I was at one time fascinated with gemstones and pearls – for no good reason that I can recall, but I followed my pattern and read and bought everything I could find

    Eliot’s “objective correlative” came to mind and the “pearl of great price”. Things from very early childhood I remember which decades later seem to have meaning as if they were planted seeds with maybe somebody good in charge and “all shall be well, all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well”.

    Somebody once said “the truth will set you free” and in context truth is actually a person. This recalls how Maat, goddess of truth, was present at creation in Ancient Egyptian mythology. Maat was also a state and a divine gift – one that could not just be given but taken away if not cultivated. A common royal depiction is the King holding truth in his hand as a supreme divine offering.

    Understanding is knowing that human beings are not omniscient and that they are prone to a pride that inhibits acknowledging error. Then there is the Judas streak – take the money, have an easy life and go with the flow.

  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • Continuing with the theme of the essay: I mentioned above David Crosby and the Byrd’s remembering JFK at Monterey in 1967. Over 40 years later there was maybe a heavenly wink when the cultural wing of the Vatican placed David Crosby’s album fron the early 70’s as the second best rock album of all time behind the Beatles Revolver album.

    The title of that album is about remembering names. Members of the Grateful Dead also played on Crosby’s album and their name is supposed to be taken from an Ancient Egyptian text which is saturated with remembering the dead who in gratitude reciprocate as there is a community as we as a personal dimension to eternal life.

    President De Gaulle wrote “President Kennedy died like a soldier, under fire, for his duty and in the service of his country”.

    I realise from above that some people hate JFK (they should read the story about David and Nathan) but are there not several existing articles which deal with theories regarding his murder rather than the stated purpose of this one? The spirit at work seems to be that which doesn’t want his name remembered but they lost that battle on the day they killed him.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Iris
    @Jack McArthur


    President De Gaulle wrote “President Kennedy died like a soldier, under fire, for his duty and in the service of his country”.
     
    This is a beautiful phrase that insightfully summarises the mission President Kennedy set to himself.
    It takes one to know one, so no surprise such a phrase about him was coined by General De Gaulle. I had never heard it before; thanks ever so much for sharing.

    The profound and poignant 1970's Supertramp song "Crime of the Century" was obviously inspired by the assassination of President Kennedy, although this also is concealed by "those who don't want his name to be remembered".

    While President Kennedy was exceptionally courageous during his life, his death made him a universal hero, one of those rare examples of lives that transcend time and space to become ethical references to all of humankind. His eternal soul survives in every human being his sacrifice inspires.

    http://db6rjmzmfh7la.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/JFk-fam.jpeg

    Replies: @Pincher Martin, @Jack McArthur

  • @Iris
    @Jack McArthur


    President De Gaulle wrote “President Kennedy died like a soldier, under fire, for his duty and in the service of his country”.
     
    This is a beautiful phrase that insightfully summarises the mission President Kennedy set to himself.
    It takes one to know one, so no surprise such a phrase about him was coined by General De Gaulle. I had never heard it before; thanks ever so much for sharing.

    The profound and poignant 1970's Supertramp song "Crime of the Century" was obviously inspired by the assassination of President Kennedy, although this also is concealed by "those who don't want his name to be remembered".

    While President Kennedy was exceptionally courageous during his life, his death made him a universal hero, one of those rare examples of lives that transcend time and space to become ethical references to all of humankind. His eternal soul survives in every human being his sacrifice inspires.

    http://db6rjmzmfh7la.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/JFk-fam.jpeg

    Replies: @Pincher Martin, @Jack McArthur

    Fine sentiments. Its OK to be human and not Vulcans in essays like this.

    I am no student of the assassination but that terrible head shot often seems to the layman to indicate a shot from the front. I was most surprised to find out the large number of people who were present at the scene and who also described shots coming from the front.

    http://22november1963.org.uk/jfk-assassination-grassy-knoll-witnesses

    • Replies: @Iris
    @Jack McArthur


    but that terrible head shot often seems to the layman to indicate a shot from the front.
     
    Physics, a hard science with unassailable laws, indicates the same. The universal principles of conservation of momentum mandate that JFK being projected backward left was the consequence of him being hit by a bullet from the front right (from the Grassy Knoll). The process is called "inelastic collision" and it is basic knowledge for STEM students.

    JFK did receive an almost instantaneous head shot from the back, too, which made his head slightly tip forward before being projected backwards. The backward movement was much more pronounced because the momentum was larger: the bullet from the Grassy knoll was heavier, faster, from closer range or a combination thereof.

    The Zapruder film, shot by an accomplice to the conspiracy, was withheld from the public precisely because of this backward movement, an incriminating tell-all detail that could not be concealed with the rudimentary photography techniques available at the time.

    You are so very right to also remind a second striking fact: the large number of eye-witnesses rushing to the Grassy Knoll in the minutes after the assassination, clearly looking for traces of the snipers. That such a fact is overlooked only shows that the mainstream media are not afraid to cancel basic common sense.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-X-fxoaCrQI4/T6qBUOgOaiI/AAAAAAAAARs/xF5-ZujsFLU/s1600/Cancellare_Lee_Forman.jpg

    The medical evidence that JFK evidence was shot from the front is overwhelming.
    https://themantikview.com/

    Replies: @Pincher Martin

  • JFK was a very charismatic president and was much liked and loved outside the US. That is reflected even today decades after Dallas. Bob Dylan had a number 1 hit this year with a single about that day in which he describes him as the King.

    This morning I was reading an ancient Egyptian text from c. 2000 bc in which a man instructs his son about the nature of the King and his role in the afterlife “Whoever does not attack him has already touched land…” which refers to the recently deceased as a sailor looking to land in a happy afterlife. It displays a generosity of spirit with no exacting demands and JFK had, as did David, a generous heart.

    Going back even earlier there is an epithet of the King as Osiris “He Whose Face Suffered” who has been struck down but rises again. Those images of Jesus with bloody head have old precursors.

    The spiritual imagery and symbols surrounding Dallas are very deep.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur

    Like King Tutankhamun JFKs stillborn daughter is buried beside him. Like JFK he too has been subject to conspiracy theories regarding his death but the evidence is not compelling even though motives are not wanting. Christ thorn seeds were found in the tomb recalling the crown that Jesus wore.

    I wonder if Mrs Kennedy was wearing in Dallas the ancient Egyptian bracelet her husband gave her.

  • I also remember a generosity of heart by Mrs Kennedy towards LOH and not ascribing pure evil to him. It comes to mind in a song by an another child who had a troubled upbringing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX8Y--jIn20

    Video Link

    Such children are especially open to abuse by manipulative people.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jack McArthur

    Citation that Mrs Kennedy had “ generosity of heart “ towards Oswald?

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • @Jack McArthur
    JFK was a very charismatic president and was much liked and loved outside the US. That is reflected even today decades after Dallas. Bob Dylan had a number 1 hit this year with a single about that day in which he describes him as the King.

    This morning I was reading an ancient Egyptian text from c. 2000 bc in which a man instructs his son about the nature of the King and his role in the afterlife "Whoever does not attack him has already touched land..." which refers to the recently deceased as a sailor looking to land in a happy afterlife. It displays a generosity of spirit with no exacting demands and JFK had, as did David, a generous heart.

    Going back even earlier there is an epithet of the King as Osiris "He Whose Face Suffered" who has been struck down but rises again. Those images of Jesus with bloody head have old precursors.

    The spiritual imagery and symbols surrounding Dallas are very deep.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Like King Tutankhamun JFKs stillborn daughter is buried beside him. Like JFK he too has been subject to conspiracy theories regarding his death but the evidence is not compelling even though motives are not wanting. Christ thorn seeds were found in the tomb recalling the crown that Jesus wore.

    I wonder if Mrs Kennedy was wearing in Dallas the ancient Egyptian bracelet her husband gave her.

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @Laurent Guyénot
    @cranc


    What is the church supposed to be responsible for if not the souls of Christians ? (in fact the yet to be converted as well ? ) If the church has not succeeded in checking the rise of Jewish power in the form of those developments you list (and thereby endangered the souls of its flock), then is this not the starting observation which leads the inquirer to ask, ‘Why didn’t it do so well?’.
     
    That's a very good point. In particular, if "psychology" is the science of the psyche/spirit/soul, where is Christian psychology? Why bother about theology if you can't even produce a psychology that tells people who they are? Apart from the writing of heterodox or heretical mystics, there is no Christian psychology worthy of this name, no Christian "depth psychology", and so Freud had an open field. The only thing approaching a christian psychology is centered on guilt and salvation, and is partly responsible for laying the foundation for Western individualism: one person, one soul, one salvation. Catholic fathers such as Augustin fought relentlessly against all notions of spiritual solidarity with one's ancestors. As I explained in "Israel as One Man", the great truth that Jews have known all the time and that Christianity has hidden from us is that we are collective beings spiritually, and that part of our soul is collective. This kind of thinking is compatible with Platonism (check Rupert Sheldrake) but not with Christian psychology. The only collective soul that the Church talked about is itself. And to some degree, yes, the Church managed for some time to create a collective being, with the Pope as its head, but it did so by destroying all other collective beings, in order to have only individuals. Christianity has also destroyed the precious ideal of the hero, who gives his life for his community, and replaced it with the saint, who dies for his faith, preferable without offsprings.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “As I explained in “Israel as One Man”, the great truth that Jews have known all the time and that Christianity has hidden from us is that we are collective beings spiritually, and that part of our soul is collective. This kind of thinking is compatible with Platonism (check Rupert Sheldrake) but not with Christian psychology. The only collective soul that the Church talked about is itself.”

    I do not understand how you could write such a thing. The gospel of John is a discourse on the Body of Christ in which all Christians are supposed to be part. Neither do I understand how anyone other than an enemy of Jesus and sincere Christians would publish this on Christmas day.

    How about an article describing in detail how the Catholic Church constrained the activities of the Jews throughout much of her history instead of doing the work of the Jews in destroying Christianity.

    So much of this kind of critique betrays a fundamentalist outlook. Such people can switch quickly from “belief” to “unbelief” but still remain fundamentalist at heart. Faith is a spiritual state primarily and not purely an intellectual affair, indeed the latter is a good a way as anything for blocking out the light through insane pride.

  • @Johnny Johnny
    I toured an Egyptian display at our local museum recently, and was struck for the first time, though it should have long been obvious, how religion dominated every aspect of their lives, in essence, what a religous people they were. And their civilization lasted for something like 2,500 years, and was an incredible civilization. I had to compare it to how irreligious we are today.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Herodotus in the 5th century BC described them as the most religious of all peoples.

  • @Emslander
    @Laurent Guyénot


    What are your arguments in defense of Christianity?
     
    They fill volumes and libraries. They are expostulated at the millions of Roman Catholic masses said every day in every part of the world. They are sung without end at monasteries everywhere. They ended human sacrifice, slavery and paganism.

    Read the Church's own histories, which are supported by recorded events, impeccable sources and persistent existence through persecutions, rampant heresies and idiot writers like yourself.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @anonymous

    “They ended human sacrifice, slavery and paganism”

    The sacrifice of the mass perpetuates the concept. Jephtah sacrifices his daughter explicitly under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

    Popes owned slaves, indeed the Holy Office as late as the 19th century affirmed slavery was not prohibited or against the divine will so long as certain things were observed.

    The destruction of “paganism” is nothing to boast about but rather something to feel shame.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    @Jack McArthur

    Well it's real shame you can't do some time travel and go back to live with those pagans, Jack. That would be a real hoot.

    You'd be lucky if you lasted a couple of days, before the bitching started.

    Same with the Lefty gals who idolize the Injuns...lol

    What Christian Civilization has given the world is priceless and the debt can NEVER be repaid. Problem is you're too stupid/egotistical to realize it.

    The least you can do is be thankful for it.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • @IronForge
    Author FAILS at around AD/CE 70.

    His Source Accts of the Gospels being written are FALSE - because those Texts Do Not Exist.

    Josephus' comments on Jesus was Fabricated. They were written in Anachronistic Prose.

    No One wrote about Jesus and his Disciples until the First Gospels were Published - in the 4thCE.

    The Earliest Gospels on Record were Completed Works Incorporated into the First New Testaments, which were Completed Works, which also happen to be Incorporated into the First Christian Bibles, which were Commissioned by Constantine and Published Post Nicea.

    Christianity was Fabricated in Nicea as a Favor to the Disdained Chrestus Cult. As their Texts state, the Believers became known as Christians at Nicea...because they were Chrestus Cultists.

    As the Empire began to Collapse, Christians took over and dragged Europe into the Dark Ages of Dogma.

    A Monk in the 6thCE Made Up the AD01 Chronological Order. Backdated the Hoax Birth 530 or so Years.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “No One wrote about Jesus and his Disciples until the First Gospels were Published – in the 4thCE”.

    Nope. The earliest substantial critique of Christianity and Jesus is c. 175 AD. That Jesus was a historical figure was not subject to question. The rest of what you write is of a similar quality.

    • Replies: @Oemiktlob
    @Jack McArthur

    "That Jesus was a historical figure was not subject to question."

    You raise a great point. If the historical Jesus of scripture did not exist, why are there no records of attempts to silence the growth of the early Christian church on that basis? Surely someone, somewhere (especially the Jewish religious authorities of all groups) at that time would have basically said "Hey, you guys are talking about a guy that's nothing more than a figment of your imaginations.", but there is no record of that. Certain people and groups wanted Christians silenced for other reasons but not that one. This alone doesn't prove conclusively and definitively that he did historically exist but I don't believe it's the slam-dunk some believe it is that he didn't historically exist.

    Replies: @Kapyong

  • @HA
    What could possibly convince anyone to take this drivel seriously? You admit that you don't believe Jesus literally rose from the dead. Isn't that the more important "lie" you need to debunk rather than some downhill domino that is bound to tumble once that first one is knocked over?

    This obsession over how Jewish/Roman/Greek/Babylonian/Persian Jesus truly was reminds me of that Catholic theologian (a doctor of the church, if I recall) who puzzled over the anatomical implications of the Incarnation to the extent that he eventually concluded that Mary must have remained a virgin even after giving birth to Jesus. Mind you, I don't deny that, not having been there two thousand years ago to offer any expert obstetrical analysis. Rather, I simply suspect that from the vantage point of the typical believer in the pews that Jesus purportedly came to save, it is counter-productive to spend more than a hymn passage or two fixating on the actual mechanics of something that ultimately must be taken on faith anyway.

    Whether one obsesses over the Incarnation by way of Mary's unruptured hymen or else on whether Christianity, that vast synthesis (at the very least Canaanite/Judaeo/Graeco/Roman/Persian/Babylonian -- maybe even Buddhist, depending on how far along the Silk Road's antecedents Ashoka's missionaries ventured, along with who knows that else) was in fact overly preferential, from a socio-political perspective, to any one of those innumerable influences, it's all meaningless if Jesus is dead. If that is what you truly believe, then nothing more needs to be said. Leave it at that, and get a life. Otherwise, the very fact that you're still shaking your fist so vehemently will lead people to suspect that you don't really think the Galilean is dead after all.

    What an annoying waste of time you are. An illiterate peasant reciting his daily Angelus has seventy times seven times more profundity and consistency than an entire volume of this nonsense you're trying to peddle.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “reminds me of that Catholic theologian (a doctor of the church, if I recall) who puzzled over the anatomical implications of the Incarnation to the extent that he eventually concluded that Mary must have remained a virgin even after giving birth to Jesus. ”

    As Jesus entered the world through a closed “door” when incarnating so does he repeat the same with an actual door in John 2o:19 post resurrection. There are Ancient Egyptian antecedents.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Jack McArthur

    "There are Ancient Egyptian antecedents."

    Ah yes, I should have added Egyptian to that already lengthy list of Canaanite/Judeo/Roman/.... influences. Apart from that, I already said that I do not presume to refute (or even understand) a theologian as elevated as Alphonsus Liguori, except to say that if you or I were to reduce the Incarnation to a bizarre fixation on the physical parameters of Mary's hymen we'd be about as wrongheaded as the author of this silly article.

    In Christianity, anyone who aspires to greatness must serve the rest. Whatever claim any Jews have to "rule over mankind" in any other manner does not come by way of Jesus' teachings, whatever bizarre fixations afflict the author.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • My fellow Revolution Radio host Robert Morningstar publishes UFO Digest, makes films, investigates red-pill topics…and has some very weird views of Islam. But he’s definitely barking up the right tree on the JFK assassination. In the first half of this interview he explains what really happened in Dealy Plaza, and how the Zapruder film was...
  • I am not at all sure that “hate” is absent from the scriptures mentioned in the podcast. I suppose this depends on how certain words are translated but often the context affirms i.e. “hate” is appropriate when the surrounding text describes acts which fit.

    Whatever be the case here is a passage from an Ancient Egyptian text:

    “Great is the blessing of god He makes the ignorant become the wise the hater become the lover He makes the small surpass the great, the one at the end be first… He teaches the dumb to speak and opens the ears of the deaf.”
    “Monotheism: The Egyptian roots”, James P. Allen, Biblical Archaeology Review, Jul/Aug 1999

    Those who know the gospels will perhaps be surprised by these words and who would much later echo them.

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @HA
    @Jack McArthur

    "There are Ancient Egyptian antecedents."

    Ah yes, I should have added Egyptian to that already lengthy list of Canaanite/Judeo/Roman/.... influences. Apart from that, I already said that I do not presume to refute (or even understand) a theologian as elevated as Alphonsus Liguori, except to say that if you or I were to reduce the Incarnation to a bizarre fixation on the physical parameters of Mary's hymen we'd be about as wrongheaded as the author of this silly article.

    In Christianity, anyone who aspires to greatness must serve the rest. Whatever claim any Jews have to "rule over mankind" in any other manner does not come by way of Jesus' teachings, whatever bizarre fixations afflict the author.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    As it happens the name you use has an Ancient Egyptian antecedent:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha_(mythology)

    • Thanks: HA
  • @GeneralRipper
    @Jack McArthur

    Well it's real shame you can't do some time travel and go back to live with those pagans, Jack. That would be a real hoot.

    You'd be lucky if you lasted a couple of days, before the bitching started.

    Same with the Lefty gals who idolize the Injuns...lol

    What Christian Civilization has given the world is priceless and the debt can NEVER be repaid. Problem is you're too stupid/egotistical to realize it.

    The least you can do is be thankful for it.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Which points do you disagree with and what evidence do you have? I can back up with scholarly sources what I have written. Based on your previous comments can I assume you are a homosexual in denial?

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    @Jack McArthur


    Based on your previous comments can I assume you are a homosexual in denial?
     
    LOL

    You must be reading too much about those later Greek and Roman boys, Jack.

    Maybe living vicariously through Phillip of Macedon or Caligula?

    Present all the bullshit "scholarly" sources you wish, retard.

    Here's the facts, Jack.

    https://i1.wp.com/historyreviewed.best/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/excellent-white-supremacy-joseph-sobran.jpeg

    Western Christian Civilization is the greatest in recorded history. Period. Full Stop.

    I'm grateful and proud to be a small part of it.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Jack McArthur

  • @GeneralRipper
    @Jack McArthur


    Based on your previous comments can I assume you are a homosexual in denial?
     
    LOL

    You must be reading too much about those later Greek and Roman boys, Jack.

    Maybe living vicariously through Phillip of Macedon or Caligula?

    Present all the bullshit "scholarly" sources you wish, retard.

    Here's the facts, Jack.

    https://i1.wp.com/historyreviewed.best/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/excellent-white-supremacy-joseph-sobran.jpeg

    Western Christian Civilization is the greatest in recorded history. Period. Full Stop.

    I'm grateful and proud to be a small part of it.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Jack McArthur

    Well I have never heard of the journalist but on doing a web search I see that he wrote that the New York Times “really ought to change its name to Holocaust Update” and laughter defuses much . As for you – there is an Ancient Egyptian proverb about never arguing with a fool that comes to mind.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  • @GeneralRipper
    @Jack McArthur


    Based on your previous comments can I assume you are a homosexual in denial?
     
    LOL

    You must be reading too much about those later Greek and Roman boys, Jack.

    Maybe living vicariously through Phillip of Macedon or Caligula?

    Present all the bullshit "scholarly" sources you wish, retard.

    Here's the facts, Jack.

    https://i1.wp.com/historyreviewed.best/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/excellent-white-supremacy-joseph-sobran.jpeg

    Western Christian Civilization is the greatest in recorded history. Period. Full Stop.

    I'm grateful and proud to be a small part of it.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Jack McArthur

    Well I have never heard of the journalist but on doing a web search I see that he wrote that the New York Times “really ought to change its name to Holocaust Update” and laughter defuses much. As for you – there is an Ancient Egyptian proverb about never arguing with a fool that comes to mind.

  • Much as I appreciate the time and effort Mr. Guyenot puts into his work, I have to part ways with him where his general assessment of Christianity is concerned.

    One needn’t embrace Christianity to appreciate it as a force for good, from the maintenance of soup kitchens and homeless shelters to conduct consciously inspired by the beatitudes — to briefly cite but a small portion of observable benevolence. It doesn’t matter if we find antecedents to these phenomena in other religions or even within a secular milieu. What matters is how people identify the motivation, and it is clear that all too many find it in Christianity.

    Now his intent may have been directed at the failure of Christendom to forestall the more pernicious influences of Israel (the diaspora) upon the west. As a Muslim, I certainly would not object to a similar critique directed at the millenial Muslim world.

    Yet relegating Christianity per se to an “instrument of Gentile enslavement to Jewish power” will only serve a divide et impera objective, regardless of how well cognized many of Mr. Guyenot’s claims may be. Perhaps he has no concern for the division and animus such commentary will precipitate, which is quite possible.

    Personally, I find his work would reach a larger audience without the broadside attack. Let the reader draw conclusions for himself. Otherwise, it becomes just a sermon from a rival religion.

    • Agree: Jack McArthur, utu
    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @AnonStarter

    Jesus is an historical figure in the Quran as well. A Muslim would be in a strange place if ever they attacked Jesus directly because of bad Christians or questioned his very existence.

    , @Laurent Guyénot
    @AnonStarter


    One needn’t embrace Christianity to appreciate it as a force for good... What matters is how people identify the motivation (for doing good), and it is clear that all too many find it in Christianity.
     
    I agree, of course. And I do think that faith in both a Creator and in immortality are the necessary foundation for public morality. I explained it in this article https://www.unz.com/article/enshrining-god-in-the-constitution-robespierres-great-idea/
    Any religion (almost) is better than no religion. My point is not to get rid of religion, but on the contrary, to argue out that Christianity is a sinking boat, and has a fundamental flaw in its design.

    Replies: @Levtraro, @Art, @AnonStarter

  • @AnonStarter
    Much as I appreciate the time and effort Mr. Guyenot puts into his work, I have to part ways with him where his general assessment of Christianity is concerned.

    One needn't embrace Christianity to appreciate it as a force for good, from the maintenance of soup kitchens and homeless shelters to conduct consciously inspired by the beatitudes -- to briefly cite but a small portion of observable benevolence. It doesn't matter if we find antecedents to these phenomena in other religions or even within a secular milieu. What matters is how people identify the motivation, and it is clear that all too many find it in Christianity.

    Now his intent may have been directed at the failure of Christendom to forestall the more pernicious influences of Israel (the diaspora) upon the west. As a Muslim, I certainly would not object to a similar critique directed at the millenial Muslim world.

    Yet relegating Christianity per se to an "instrument of Gentile enslavement to Jewish power" will only serve a divide et impera objective, regardless of how well cognized many of Mr. Guyenot's claims may be. Perhaps he has no concern for the division and animus such commentary will precipitate, which is quite possible.

    Personally, I find his work would reach a larger audience without the broadside attack. Let the reader draw conclusions for himself. Otherwise, it becomes just a sermon from a rival religion.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Laurent Guyénot

    Jesus is an historical figure in the Quran as well. A Muslim would be in a strange place if ever they attacked Jesus directly because of bad Christians or questioned his very existence.

    • Agree: AnonStarter
  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • @Alden
    @Jack McArthur

    Citation that Mrs Kennedy had “ generosity of heart “ towards Oswald?

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Mrs Kennedy said to John Jnr that “he [Oswald] hadn’t been bad really; he had just been sick”
    Death of a President, William Manchester.

    It is available on snippet view, rather than preview, on google books so I cannot give a page number but you can verify by doing a text search within the book.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jack McArthur

    Thanks for the citation. I wouldn’t exactly call it generosity of heart but a well thought out and good thing to say to 2 and 6 year olds whose Dad was murdered.

    Most people still need the primitive great mother and father of the nation myth. Like Barack and Michelle. Or Franklin and Eleanor, Jack and Jackie Odin and Freda Bill and Hillary, , Siegfried and Seiglinde, Jupiter and Juno, Arthur and Guinevere.

    As far as I know, there were only 2 great royal couples, Louis and Eleanor who went on crusade and Ferdinand and Isabella who kicked the last Muslims out of Europe.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @nokangaroos
    @gay troll

    With apologies to Schopenhauer, only the French could have come up with the notion that Truth is female.

    Replies: @Laurent Guyénot, @Jack McArthur

    The Ancient Egyptian deity of truth is the goddess Maat.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat

    Wisdom is also personified in the OT as female e.g. Book of Proverbs. This is likely no coincidence as The Ancient Egyptian Instructions of Amenemope in part made its way into the OT Book of Proverbs at the same time (majority view) and wisdom literature is synonym for Maat litteraure.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_of_Amenemope

  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • @Alden
    @Jack McArthur

    Thanks for the citation. I wouldn’t exactly call it generosity of heart but a well thought out and good thing to say to 2 and 6 year olds whose Dad was murdered.

    Most people still need the primitive great mother and father of the nation myth. Like Barack and Michelle. Or Franklin and Eleanor, Jack and Jackie Odin and Freda Bill and Hillary, , Siegfried and Seiglinde, Jupiter and Juno, Arthur and Guinevere.

    As far as I know, there were only 2 great royal couples, Louis and Eleanor who went on crusade and Ferdinand and Isabella who kicked the last Muslims out of Europe.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    I would call it exactly that. People who look not to blame and rush to judgement but rather to excuse are following the precepts of Jesus.

    The earliest recorded great royal crusaders are the family of King Ahmose in Ancient Egypt c. 1550 bc who evicted the ancestors of the Jews (according to Josephus) who had infiltrated and taken over the country.

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jack McArthur

    I don’t know much about ancient Egypt just the conventional history.

  • People have noted the verbosity of many of the replies almost as if the spirit of the Mr Bugliosi was not at rest. By a strange coincidence I recently watched the movie The Devils Advocate.
    https://www.unz.com/tlynch/review-withnail-i/#comment-4286291

    Like Mr Bugliosi, whom I never heard before these comments, there is a lawyer in the movie who has a remarkable success rate (100%), albeit as a defence lawyer, and reaps the money and prestige that comes with it.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jack McArthur

    A lawyer who wins or gets a good settlement or resolution for his client is worth as much as he can get out of the client Really. Truly And it’s mostly talk talk talk file more motions, continue, delay and hold on till the opposition caves.

    Plus, President Kennedy and Officer Tippitt were murdered 11/22/63. Murder is a legal matter. The most serious crime in any legal code of laws.

    Had Oswald survived, the legal process would have continued and Oswald most probably would have been convicted of 2 first degree murders under the state of Texas penal code.

    That’s why the comments are so verbose. Plus the idiots who pour over photos looking for President Bush 1 and Aristotle Onassis supervising the assassination in front of the Book depository building believe those insanities

    Thought. If the killer was behind a tree on the grassy knoll or in the Dal-Tex building, why were Bush 1 and Onassis supervising in front of the building where Oswald worked? Shouldn’t the supervisors have been in the grassy knoll?

    That’s how an investigator works.

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @Laurent Guyénot
    @Dube

    So, who is Melchizedek?

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “Before Abraham was I Am” (John 8:58)

    Arnold Toynbee : “It is not inconceivable that they [the pyramids] may outlast man himself, and that in a world where there are no longer human minds to read their message, they will continue to testify: Before Abraham was, I Am”
    A Study of History”, Arnold Joseph Toynbee, Oxford University Press US, 1987, ISBN 0195050800 (org pub 1947)

  • @Monotheistic Christian
    @FedUp

    Dear Fedup

    I am sorry to hear you were traumatised by the false doctrines presented to you as a child, but which were false doctrines and not taught in the Bible.

    The error of eternal torments of damned, supposedly immortal souls is not taught in the Bible, because the error of the immortality of the soul is not taught in the Bible. The Bible teaches conditional immortality to the faithful only, and not immediately at death, but at the return of Jesus Christ to the earth, and via resurrection of the body, which will then be glorified into an immortal, spiritual body.

    Those faithful saints will live and reign with Christ for 1000 years on this earth, after Jesus establishes the kingdom of God promised for him by the Angel Gabriel to his mother Mary: " he will inherit the throne of his father David, and rule over the house of Jacob forever". Luke 2:32. Jesus was correctly crucified as the King of the Jews, and this prophecy will become a reality then.

    We are all currently mortal souls, not immortal souls. The verses which seem to imply eternal torments have been misinterpreted, and used by unscrupulous professional religious persons to terrify their flocks into submission, in which state they are more easily controlled and fleeced.

    There is no heaven-going of immortal souls at death, and hell is merely the grave, and all men including Jesus Christ go there at death. The Apostles Creed says that Jesus Christ "descended into hell, the third day he rose again from the dead". Acts 2:32 says his soul " was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption". The soul consists of organised dust plus the breath of life Gen 2:7, and at death the organised dust corrupts after the respiration breath of life and consciousness ceases.

    Souls can die : "the soul that sinneth, it shall die" . Ezekiel 18.
    "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to the earth, in that very day his thoughts perish" Psalm 146:6.
    "Man that is in honour and understands not is like the beasts that perish". Psalm 49, last few verses.
    "To those who seek for glory honour and immortality, eternal, but to those who are perverse, indignation and wrath". Romans 2. The wrath is that they will cease to exist forever in total unconsciousness, which is not cruel.

    The God of heaven is loving, merciful and gracious, but He will not reward those who treat Him and his laws with contempt.

    The apostle Paul in Romans 11 tells us that the unfaithful Jews, those who do not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and messiah,are currently cut out of the olive tree of faith, but that in future they will be grafted back in again at Jesus's second coming, after they have been humbled by a catastrophic invasion which will happen to Israel (Zechariah 12-14; Ezekiel 37-39). After that they will "look upon me whom they have pierced, and mourn as one mourns for an only son".

    These teachings are far more hope-filled than the offerings of L Guyenot, who can only offer pessimism about the Jews.

    Christians who are baptised into Christ become spiritual Israelites and heirs of the promises made to Abraham. Galatians 3:26-29. The Old Testament prophets taught that Jesus, though born an Israelite, would be a "light to the Gentiles".

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “The error of eternal torments of damned, supposedly immortal souls is not taught in the Bible”

    Mainstream Christianity disagrees e.g read the Book of Revelations (Islam is the same). Thomas Aquinas wrote that one of the joys of heaven was watching the suffering of the dammed.

    • Replies: @Monotheistic Christian
    @Jack McArthur

    Revelations does not mention immortal souls being roasted forever. Rev 20 symbolises the total destruction of all organised and personal human opposition to Jesus Christ at the end of his Millennial reign on earth in future. The book of Revelations says it is written in symbols (Rev 1:1 "signified") and the symbols must be interpreted in harmony with other Bible teachings.

    The devil and Satan, interchangeable terms, symbolise mortal human opposition to God, His laws and his people. Jesus described Peter as Satan in Matt 16. Satan means adversary, and devil (Greek diabolos) means false accuser.

    Rev 20:14 says death and even hell itself will be cast into the lake of fire. How can there be a continuing hell if hell itself is burnt up in the lake of fire. There will be no need for hell (the grave) after that because there will be no more mortal population left to die.

    "Thomas Aquinas wrote that one of the joys of heaven was watching the suffering of the dammed."

    He must have had a sadistic streak if he wrote that, but he was teaching all these wrong doctrines, such as immortal souls, anyway. It was probably the only way he could console himself for having unnecessarily inflicted a lifetime of celibacy on himself.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Tom Ratliff

    , @MrVoid
    @Jack McArthur


    Mainstream Christianity disagrees e.g read the Book of Revelations (Islam is the same). Thomas Aquinas wrote that one of the joys of heaven was watching the suffering of the dammed.
     
    In Buddhism, sadism is a sin, and by extention, schadenfreude must be a sin too. Witnessing other people's evil karma ripening is a also a way for one's own evil karma to ripen, but to a lesser degree. If you take delight in it you would have wasted your own opportunity for karmic purification and incurred far worse karma. "All that I have wrriten seems like straw" he said. Indeed.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • @Alden
    @Ringer Winger

    You’re right about Kennedy’s falling poll numbers. I read National Review in those days. NR was very very much against school desegregation. The south was still solid yellow dog democrat. But desegregation if schools and black on White crime alarmed the south.

    The economy was still in the post war boom for everyone. But Kennedy failed in foreign affairs. Had he’d been quiet about foreign affairs and communism as Eisenhower had been Kennedy might have not been such a disappointment.

    But in less than 3 years Kennedy presided over the failed invasion of Cuba, Russia building the Berlin Wall just weeks after Russian premier met with Kennedy in Vienna and noticed he was a pain and drug addled mental ( Addison’s) and physical (hips and back) cripple.

    Plus our S Vietnamese allies were losing their war against communist Vietnam. Plus the Soviet Russians were using Cuba as a base to foment communist revolutions in S America.

    Kennedy and his well funded PR machine preached against communist expansion. Kennedy riled the citizens up against communism and then was seen to lose and lose against Russia.

    Blacks and their Jewish handlers thought Kennedy didn’t do enough for blacks. Southern Whites thought he was anti White. Northern blacks were moving out of the cities to the then Republican suburbs to escape the Kennedy’s beloved blacks.

    Kennedy’s handlers polled every week. His polls were going down every month according to NR.
    He barely squeaked by in the 1960 election.

    His foreign affairs failures might have lost him the 1964 election. Like the Clintons Obamas and other democrats the Kennedys were more a MSM PR creation than truly popular.

    One theory at the time was that it was an attempted assassination gone wrong. The Kennedy operation thought an assassination attempt by a soi disant communist defector would create great enthusiasm for Kennedy in November 1964. Unfortunately, Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippitt

    Brother Bobby’s DOJ checked for communists in Texas and there he was, Lee Oswald right in Dallas. Had Oswald not worked in Elm st, he would have taken the day off and maybe used his revolver. Many at the time thought it was the reason the Kennedy Family never pursued a real investigation.

    It’s a good theory. Makes as much as any of the thousands of others, including Jackie and her second husband Onassis killed Kennedy. Or aliens did it 👽 👽

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Ringer Winger

    Matthew 4:10

    The very thing you ridicule in others you regard as crazies you indulge in yourself.

    Tell the truth. Do you hate in your heart JFK.

    • Thanks: Iris
  • Catholic & Identitarian: From Protest to Reconquest Julien Langella Arktos, 2020. For better or worse, I’m fairly certain there hasn’t been a Catholic in my family tree since the Reformation, and I remain unsure about a strict definition of “Identitarianism.” It was with an ambivalent but open mind, then, that I recently read Julien Langella’s...
  • Would he be happy in a society in which homosexuals and trannies demand and have the right to tech infants at school their beliefs, in which the media is controlled by minority groups, in which the country is run by the super rich greed merchants through corrupt politicians so long as they are white? I doubt it very much and that is why I cannot buy into race only arguments.

    “it’s a powerful apologetic for prejudice, with Langella asserting that “refusing prejudice is a moral blackmail, a weapon of intimidation against Europeans who are disgusted with invasion-migration. … In forbidding us from exercising the virtue of prejudice, the globalists want to force us to consent to our own disappearance under the wave of the Great Replacement.”

    I remember a time when gay went something very different from today, i.e. before white meant black and vice versa. The young Auberon Waugh once said to his father Evelyn “I have a prejudice”. His father replied “exppain” and to which he answered “I cannot because it is a prejudice”. Today what is irrational is the norm.

    It’s all lining up with even a Pope Satan. I am not sure how to explain the current predicament but it looks as if we are all witnessing a kind of personal apocalypse.

    • Replies: @Saxon
    @Jack McArthur


    Would he be happy in a society in which homosexuals and trannies demand and have the right to tech infants at school their beliefs, in which the media is controlled by minority groups, in which the country is run by the super rich greed merchants through corrupt politicians so long as they are white? I doubt it very much and that is why I cannot buy into race only arguments.
     
    Can you find me an example of country where the worst of these types of things have appeared without genetically distinct outgroups pushing them maliciously on the local population? It's a nice hypothetical you have here but I haven't seen it. It's kind of like when some violent African criminal does something, gets shot, and then the hypothetical of "what if a white man did it, would he get shot?" gets trotted out as happened in Ireland recently. They can't even find an example of a white man doing that kind of thing to compare and contrast.

    Replies: @SimplePseudonymicHandle, @Jack McArthur

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @mcohen
    With relegion one has to look beyond the facts to the intentions.Will and intent are the cornerstones of survival and this is what relegion provides.....the will and intent to survive.Basically a tool.

    The virgin birth,the parting of the red sea,the flying off on a winged horse.just stories made up for ignorant people centuries ago,before that the old gods of the greeks and vikings and before that the even older gods of Egypt,and so on.

    Priests today stand before people who are a lot wiser as the Internet has changed peoples perception of relegion,but has it changed the intentions of relegion.like charity,diet, etc.
    No.

    All these debates on unz are just entertainment.Personally I think that after 60 or there abouts one should start to move beyond relegion and try to understand the spiritual of nature and where we fit in.

    I came up with this awhile go.this is my personal journey.i have posted it before

    In the tradition of the great jewish kabbalist isaac luria.

    When the soul leaves the body and becomes an electro magnetic entity that moves in the gravitational field of the earth it chooses a suitable living tree and occupies a tree with access to both the world above and below and resides there in its new home.

    There it joins the cycle of life.One should always endeavor to plant at least one tree in your short life on this sacred earth so the souls of dead have a place to reside.Just as the souls of the living reside in houses made from dead trees,so do the souls of the dead reside in the houses made of living trees.

    Replies: @Majority of One, @Jack McArthur

    “When the soul leaves the body and becomes an electro magnetic entity that moves in the gravitational field of the earth it chooses a suitable living tree and occupies a tree with access to both the world above and below and resides there in its new home.”

    https://fineartamerica.com/featured/as-loving-mother-goddess-mut-pours-mary-evans-picture-library.html

    Not far away from Ancient Egyptian depictions. The bird at the bottom of the tree is the Ba of the man (commonly translated as soul). The name of the tree goddess is Ancient Egyptian for “mother”. I am told that military chaplains in both world wars reported that the most common last word of dying servicemen was “mother”. As you come into this world through your mother so the same repeats with the heavenly mother when you leave this earth.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    @Jack McArthur

    The drawing is interesting.i will read up on it.

    I also find Elephantine Island in Egypt a mystery and the connection between the Jews who lived in Egypt and ancient Egyptian beliefs.This is a quote from the link below

    The Jews had their own temple to Yahweh[5] which functioned alongside that of the Egyptian god Khnum. Along with Yahweh, other deities – ʿAnat Betel and Asham Bethel – seem to have been worshiped by these Jews, evincing polytheistic beliefs.[6]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • @Monotheistic Christian
    @Jack McArthur

    Revelations does not mention immortal souls being roasted forever. Rev 20 symbolises the total destruction of all organised and personal human opposition to Jesus Christ at the end of his Millennial reign on earth in future. The book of Revelations says it is written in symbols (Rev 1:1 "signified") and the symbols must be interpreted in harmony with other Bible teachings.

    The devil and Satan, interchangeable terms, symbolise mortal human opposition to God, His laws and his people. Jesus described Peter as Satan in Matt 16. Satan means adversary, and devil (Greek diabolos) means false accuser.

    Rev 20:14 says death and even hell itself will be cast into the lake of fire. How can there be a continuing hell if hell itself is burnt up in the lake of fire. There will be no need for hell (the grave) after that because there will be no more mortal population left to die.

    "Thomas Aquinas wrote that one of the joys of heaven was watching the suffering of the dammed."

    He must have had a sadistic streak if he wrote that, but he was teaching all these wrong doctrines, such as immortal souls, anyway. It was probably the only way he could console himself for having unnecessarily inflicted a lifetime of celibacy on himself.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Tom Ratliff

    Much as I admire anyone who refuses to attribute evil to god I do not see much support for it in the bible. You have to go back much further in time to Ancient Egypt when judgment scenes first appear and when the unrighteous are first punished and then annihilated.

    “And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever”. (Revelations 14:11)
    “And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. 10And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.(Revelations 20:9-10)
    “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” (Matt 25:46)
    “His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.” (Math 3:12)
    “It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two hands and go into hell, into the unquenchable fire” (Mark 9:44)
    “The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: “Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?””(Isaiah 33:14)

    • Agree: Seraphim
    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur

    Here is paper specifically on the Book of Revelations and this theme.
    https://christianworldviewpress.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/eternal-punishment-in-the-book-of-revelation/

    , @Monotheistic Christian
    @Jack McArthur

    The theory of the immortal souls of the damned being tormented in hellfire flames forever is based on the false teaching of the immortality of the soul.
    The term "immortal soul" is not found in the Bible.
    The fact that this false theory is so widely believed represents the triumph of the serpents lie : "Thou shalt not surely die", as taught by paganism.
    Jesus taught the resurrection of the body, so did Paul, not souls flying off to heaven or hell at death.

    Yahweh may have conquered Rome, but it was a Pyrrhic victory, because at the same time the false doctrines of paganism, such as the immortal soul theory and eternal torments of damned souls, had conquered corrupt Christianity, around the time of Constantine.

    The term "unquenchable fire" (Matt 3:12; Mark 9:44) refers to total destruction of chaff, which does not have an immortal soul, or dead bodies, after which there is nothing left.
    There will be nothing left of the wicked.
    The word Gehenna is sometimes used to refer to hellfire, but Gehenna was the Jerusalem rubbish dump where the bodies of executed criminals were thrown, and that fire never went out, though the bodies of the criminals quickly disappeared into dust and ashes.

    The book of Revelation is written in symbols which need interpretation. Revelation 12 speaks of a woman being clothed with the sun and standing on the moon. Do you take this literally?

    The lake of fire symbolises the final eternal destruction of all wicked, unfaithful men, not a cruel roasting of their non-existent, allegedly conscious immortal souls for all eternity. The obvious hyperbolism in these passages should not be taken literally, but the total and eternal destruction of the wicked is certain. Revelations never mentions immortal souls.

    2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 :
    7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
    10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

  • @Jack McArthur
    @Monotheistic Christian

    Much as I admire anyone who refuses to attribute evil to god I do not see much support for it in the bible. You have to go back much further in time to Ancient Egypt when judgment scenes first appear and when the unrighteous are first punished and then annihilated.

    "And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever". (Revelations 14:11)
    "And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. 10And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.(Revelations 20:9-10)
    "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (Matt 25:46)
    "His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.” (Math 3:12)
    "It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two hands and go into hell, into the unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:44)
    "The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: "Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?""(Isaiah 33:14)

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Monotheistic Christian

    Here is paper specifically on the Book of Revelations and this theme.
    https://christianworldviewpress.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/eternal-punishment-in-the-book-of-revelation/

  • @mcohen
    @Jack McArthur

    The drawing is interesting.i will read up on it.

    I also find Elephantine Island in Egypt a mystery and the connection between the Jews who lived in Egypt and ancient Egyptian beliefs.This is a quote from the link below

    The Jews had their own temple to Yahweh[5] which functioned alongside that of the Egyptian god Khnum. Along with Yahweh, other deities – ʿAnat Betel and Asham Bethel – seem to have been worshiped by these Jews, evincing polytheistic beliefs.[6]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    The Egyptians destroyed the temple of the Jews at Elephantine with the Oxford History of Ancient Egypt suggesting that they had come as mercenaries of the barbarians (I do not use the word lightly) who had invaded a much higher civilization.

    Anyone who knows anything about Ancient Egypt knows that divine monarchy was central to the development of this “wonderful people” ( as described by an Christian Egyptologist) and there is what to me is a prophetic utterance in a pyramid text warning about not letting whom Josephus would desrcribe as the ancestors of the Jews, the Hyksos into Egypt.

    This would be echoed 2000 years later in an Oracle of Isis who said that if the Jews are not put out they would close the temples. This happened in practice when the sibling of the Jews did exactly that.

    From your description of Kabbalah its just another demonic take on what was good in Ancient Egypt – Freemasons are another version – albeit I assume good faith on your unwitting part and that of most Freemasons.

    A Jew who professes an affinity to ancient Egypt misses entirely the point because it was never based on tribe or race.

    A Jew who loves the monarchy and ways of Ancient Egypt is no longer a Jew but an Egyptian. Freemasonry and Kabbalah are not Ancient Egyptian but the same old spirit of isfet that seeks to infiltrate and destroy by mimicry and demonic magic that comes from the dark side.

    All race based philosophies have no home in Ancient Egypt and neither does anti-clerical or anti-monarchial movements.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    @Jack McArthur

    its ok jack i understand

  • In its most recent exercise of liberal democracy, the state senate of Massachusetts voted 32-8 to override Gov. Charlie Baker's veto of what is called the Roe Act. One day earlier, Monday, the state house had voted to override. The Roe Act is now law in the Bay State. And what does it say? Drafted...
  • What has been done to children in the womb these past 50 years in the West is barbarism and maybe that is why it’s all heading for a bad end.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @MrVoid
    @Jack McArthur


    Mainstream Christianity disagrees e.g read the Book of Revelations (Islam is the same). Thomas Aquinas wrote that one of the joys of heaven was watching the suffering of the dammed.
     
    In Buddhism, sadism is a sin, and by extention, schadenfreude must be a sin too. Witnessing other people's evil karma ripening is a also a way for one's own evil karma to ripen, but to a lesser degree. If you take delight in it you would have wasted your own opportunity for karmic purification and incurred far worse karma. "All that I have wrriten seems like straw" he said. Indeed.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    Just to be clear – I was not defending it. It is beyond me how anyone could take pleasure in the eternal suffering of another no matter how heinous their crime. I mentioned earlier that when judgment scenes are first depicted in Ancient Egypt in the 2nd millennium bc those who fail are punished first and then annihilated. This seems to been taken up the Jews who embellished it.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letter-hell-in-the-ancient-world-1470076.html

  • @Tom Ratliff
    @Monotheistic Christian

    Well, I'm not certain where Aquinas was coming from. But the archangel Uriel mentions to Ezra that the righteous will "have rest" on account of a feeling of schadenfreude at the expense of the damned.

    "They will have rest...because they see the panic in which the souls of the wicked wander and the punishment that awaits them."

    See 2 Esdras 7 (search the internet). The above is verse 82, but I find the entire Q & A session between Uriel and Ezra in this chapter fascinating – doesn't leave much to the imagination.

    Replies: @Monotheistic Christian, @Jack McArthur

    “The relations of the saints towards the damned”

    https://www.newadvent.org/summa/5094.htm

  • In its most recent exercise of liberal democracy, the state senate of Massachusetts voted 32-8 to override Gov. Charlie Baker's veto of what is called the Roe Act. One day earlier, Monday, the state house had voted to override. The Roe Act is now law in the Bay State. And what does it say? Drafted...
  • @raga10
    @GeneralRipper


    Killing men in combat vs killing a helpless unborn child.
     
    If your concern is for preservation of life then why is one OK while the other is not? Was the person killed in combat less alive than a child? Or will they be any less dead when you kill them?

    That's why I refuse to ever use a label of "pro-life". The correct term is "anti-choice".

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    There is no contradiction. The unborn child is innocent and has done no harm to anybody. That being said the person who abhors abortion should wait until judgment when these evil people will face punishment commensurate with the crime the have committed. I can excuse women who have been brainwashed into abortions but not the doctors who carried it out nor the advocates or defenders of abortion.

    • Disagree: meamjojo
    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  • @Monsieur Édouard
    Who speaks for the unborn in Massachusetts? I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's whoever is trying to ensure that they have food, housing, and healthcare during gestation and after they're born, as well as parents who don't resent their very existence. If you don't like abortion — and *surprise!* most "pro-choice" advocates don't like it, either — work like hell for comprehensive sex education and free contraception. It's much more effective than a Prohibition-style ban. (And for the "but there's always adoption" crowd, newsflash: children are not fungible goods. Emotional bonds, including bonds steeped in regret, resentment, and anger, form during gestation.)

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @meamjojo, @Hibernian

    George Monbiot’s argument against the Catholic church’s stance on abortion and contraception is wrong on virtually every point (Face facts, Cardinal. Our awful rate of abortion is partly your responsibility, February 26). There is a large amount of evidence that easier access to contraception has very little impact on the number of abortions.

    Monbiot is particularly misinformed when he quotes a study which reported that “Rising contraceptive use results in reduced abortion incidence” – over 60% of women having abortions in Britain report that they had been using contraceptives. The journal Obstetrics and Gynecology recently published a meta-analysis of 23 research articles examining the impact of increased access to emergency birth control on unwanted pregnancy and abortions, concluding: “To date, no study has shown that increased access to this method reduces unintended pregnancy or abortion rates.”

    Monbiot claims there is “a clear relationship between sex education and falling rates of unintended pregnancy”. There is not. Most papers (including the one in the British Medical Journal that Monbiot cites) find that sex education programmes have little or no impact on rates of teenage pregnancy or abortion. Sweden’s programmes in sex education, and promotion of contraceptives, have been an admired model – yet total abortion rates there are now higher than ours.

    In contrast, there is clear evidence that even modest legal restrictions can help to cut abortion rates. Some US states now require parental notification before minors can get abortions. This has led to lower underage abortion rates without necessarily increasing underage births.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/mar/05/health

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @Robjil
    @The Dog Lover


    Let’s not forget that the those who unleashed the thermonuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, were – by golly – professed Christians! And most Christians in the US still agree to this day that unleashing nuclear bombs on innocent people was a necessary action that “saved lives”…
     
    This type of "thinking" happens when one doesn't have a "free" press. Notice the anti-Christian pattern in the attacks on Nagasaki and Dresden. People who are ignorant of their real rulers don't see these patterns.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/nagasaki-cathedral-remembers-the-atomic-bomb-1.2508787

    NAGASAKI, Japan — Just after dawn Sunday, the faithful filed into Urakami Cathedral in the Japanese city of Nagasaki for a Mass tinged with sadness.

    Seventy years ago, a U.S.-dropped atomic bomb detonated about 500 metres from the church, killing two priests who were hearing confessions and about 30 other people inside. The more than 70,000 who died in Nagasaki in the Aug. 9, 1945, bombing included 8,500 of the cathedral's 12,000 parishioners, decimating Japan's largest Christian community.…
     
    https://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2020/02/dresden-holocaust-remembrance-day-5.html

    It was Shrove Tuesday, 1945 in the magnificent German art city of Dresden, which was packed with helpless Christian refugees fleeing the Red Army of the Stalinist USSR. Dresden’s native Lutheran and Catholic children, dressed in their festive Saxon folk costumes, were aboard a train taking them home after Mardi Gras parties at different points in the far-flung city. Still merry from the night’s festivities, they cavorted on the train prior to Ash Wednesday, February 14, and the solemnities that would be observed even in wartime, in memory of the passion and death of Jesus. In the sky, Allied fighter planes caught sight of the civilian train and opened fire on the children inside, whose blood was soon pouring out of the wreckage.
     

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Another Polish Perspective

    The so called “father of the atomic bomb” was a Jew.
    https://www.history.com/news/father-of-the-atomic-bomb-was-blacklisted-for-opposing-h-bomb

    The so called “father of the hydrogen bomb” was a Jew.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller

    The President who authorized the dropping of the bombs was the President who rushed to recognize the state of Israel.
    https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/presidential-inquiries/recognition-israel

    • Thanks: Robjil
  • Uh-oh. Alarming news (is there any other kind these days?) suggests that the COVID-19 pandemic has put a catastrophic strain on the world’s crematoria not seen since … well, we’ll get to that in a moment. Let us take these headlines at face value for the sake of argument: Zittau, Germany: Reports from this Saxony...
  • @Alfred
    @Emblematic

    They claim that millions of bodies were incinerated outdoors in open air burn-pits or something.

    How about some links? More fake history? :-)

    Indeed, why incinerate anyone outdoors. Just fence them off and leave them in the open to die of exposure, thirst and hunger. It worked for General Eisenhower with his Wehrmacht prisoners. The birds and rats will take care of the flesh. A bulldozer a little later will turn their bones into soil once more. Easy-peasy.

    Most of these prisoners were kids. The Soviets had taken care of the older ones.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fi%2F183131442034-0-1%2Fs-l1000.jpg

    Replies: @Peripatetic Itch, @Jack McArthur, @cohen

    The following link to David Irvine’s Nuremberg book is worth a look (try before buy).
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Nuremberg/NUREMBERG.pdf

    See pages 349 ~ for the alleged outdoor burials but note the following passage:

    “As the car pulled into the British unit’s barracks at Heide, a blizzard was blowing. Höss was marched naked across the parade ground to a cell. For the next three days he was kept awake and repeatedly interrogated in German – he understood no English. Kenneth Jones, a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery, and two other soldiers were detailed to take turns to sit in his cell, armed with pick-axe handles to jab him every time he fell asleep. ‘After three days and nights without sleep,’ said Jones, ‘Höss finally broke down and made a full confession to the authorities. Höss himself wrote later, ‘At my first interrogation, evidence was obtained by beating me. I do not know what is in the record, although I signed it. Alcohol and the whip [his own] were too much for me.’ The ‘record’ was an eight-page text typed in German, which Höss signed in the early hours of March, having the presence of mind even now to add the time, ‘A.M.’ after the date. This confession, which subsequently came to be submitted to the Nuremberg tribunal as document NO–1210, had taken three days of torture, as his captor, Sergeant Bernard Clarke himself would describe, to obtain.”

    Note pagination differs between the printed and pdf editions.

  • I admit it: I like the Kennedys. Actually, I love the Kennedys. Religiously. I think they deserve a heroic cult. “The hero in the Greek religious sense,” according to Lewis Farnell, “is a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his...
  • We never got round to discussing some of the more interesting spiritual symbols which revolves around Dallas. e.g. relic of the true cross being present in Parkland, the red roses of martyrdom etc, as the thread was hijacked into a discourse on why its vital everyone must believe there was no conspiracy. But here is one that dawned on me this morning:

    In 1968 the Rolling Stones (who were overtly satanic at the time) were recording Sympathy for the Devil. In it Lucifer with human agents describes how:

    [MORE]

    “I was ’round when Jesus Christ
    Had his moment of doubt and pain
    Made damn sure that Pilate
    Washed his hands and sealed his fate”

    and how

    “I stuck around St. Petersburg
    When I saw it was a time for a change
    Killed the Tzar and his ministers
    Anastasia screamed in vain”

    and how

    “I shouted out,
    “Who killed the Kennedys?”
    When after all
    It was you and me”

    In fact the lyrics had to be changed because Robert Kennedy was gunned down as they were recording the track and Kennedy became plural.

    The lyrics also describe Lucifer guise as being “a man of wealth and taste”. I wonder if the writer of this essay would like to name the common denominator that connects all the above?

  • One year ago, the Raging Twenties started with a murder. The assassination of Maj Gen Qassem Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), alongside Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iraq’s Hashd al-Sha’abi militia, by laser-guided Hellfire missiles launched from two MQ-9 Reaper drones, was an act of...
  • An ancient text survives in which a prince in Asia Minor describes how plague had devastated the region because his father had broken an agreement with Egypt.

    I know somebody well enough to know he is not a liar and who said at the outbreak of this covid epidemic that he had received a locution which said that the outbreak in Wahun was a deliberate release by Israel and an Arab(Saudi agents?), the locution was ambiguous). He is the first to not trust every such locution and neither I am but through a couple of synchronicities yesterday I maybe was willing to grant greater credence to it.

    Firstly I gather that Saudi Arabia hates Iran and the latter was the secondary epicenter of the Wahun release event. Secondly it helps explain why when Ron Unz wrote in a comment describing how the US had been the source of the release I was inspired to suggest in a reply that the US was being set up as patsy without describing why.

    The person who had the locution was correct about the devastation that would come about through the release from a lab of a “germ” 18 months before the covid outbreak. I strongly suspect that the UR contributors are monitored routinely so the relevant agencies will know from the date stamp in my emails at that time recording that the locution is true. Furthermore I pray with all my heart that an another locution is false and that what is heading to the US because of Israel does not happen.

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @Al Liguori
    @Fran Taubman

    Ridiculous.
    Jesus was not a Pharisee. He damned them repeatedly.
    Talmudic Judaism revels in its derivation from the Pharisees.
    Jesus damned you Talmudic Jews too as two-fold children of Hell more than the Pharisees themselves. (Matthew 23:15)
    Jesus also noted that the Pharisees weren't Jews, that even Moses "accused" them. John 5:45-47
    It is you and your lineage that are not Jews, but those identified in Apocalypse 3:9.
    To be clear, Jesus, True God and True Man, was a true Jew. You are not.
    Further, your "sages" were too stupid to notice at least 84 references to the Holy Trinity in the Old Testament.
    http://judaism.is/images/holy%20trinity%20in%20the%20ot.jpg?crc=443742763

    Replies: @Jack McArthur, @Fran Taubman

    According to Genesis 2:16-17 Fran (whom I have nothing but good wishes towards) does not have a conscience in the sense you have, and certainly not that of an ancient Egyptian, because they expressly denied it.

    Jews, like their legalistic comrades in Judeo-Christianity, will indeed follow rules but not because they are good but because it is written, i.e. it is nothing about being fully human but being a robot. IS did unspeakable things because they thought it was written (missing out the texts which contradicted and amplifying the non-Quranic).

    My late brother had a friend who said that he knew if a person had been baptized and whilst it remains a complete mystery (if you do not know the history of Ancient Egypt) why Judaism comes about then by all means continue with forensic analysis and contradicting truth but if somebody can give up something as a sacrifice for Fran then that has eternal worth I am sure

    • Replies: @Nancy
    @Jack McArthur

    Fran seems a pilpul virtuoso! well-trained to waste time and befuddle... not interested in clarity that may NOT benefit Jews.

  • @gay troll
    Talha rejects panentheism unequivocally. I think the entire concept of “Islam” (submission to God’s will) is half baked. In my experience Islam is indeed a vital spiritual tool; you learn to recognize the divine will and distinguish it from the desires of the ego. But once this submission to the will is complete, the ego disintegrates, and the divine will assumes individual agency, turning the spiritual practitioner into a pneumatikoi.

    Thus Islam is only the beginning of faith. The only thing that separates “Creation” from the “Creator” is the veil of Maya or illusion. As within, so without; as above, so below.

    Hail Lucifer 666

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    A lot of this predates by a long way the Greek categorization into monotheism etc. Long, long before the arrival of the books of religion there was in Ancient Egypt they who lived by the spirit and who had god within (not unlike the Christian with the Holy Spirit)

    James Henry Breasted, an Egyptologist and lecturer in classical Arabian, describes the birth of conscience in Ancient Egypt in his book The Dawn of Conscience.

    • Thanks: gay troll
  • A New Dedicated Open Thread.
  • @Wizard of Oz
    @Colin Wright

    I've just come across a copy I made of a long ABC report. These words are significant:


    Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."
     
    That's about the Israeli TV interview. Do you really think he was gratuitously disclosing a task that they had been given by Israeli intelligence?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Jack McArthur

    The Jew Abraham Zapruder was in the perfect spot to “document” in color the assassination of JFK and his family live off the multimillion proceeds till this day. Did not a Jew who is friendly with Netanhanyu take out a multibillion insurance policy on the twin towers on the run up to their demolition? One can never rule out human conspiracy but my own take is that the “god” of the Jews looks after his own. The NT calls him the ruler of this world.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack McArthur

    The trouble with the 9/11 insurance claims seems to be twofold. Larry Silverstein had only just bought the Twin Towers and, as a condition of obtaining finance, he was required to update the insurance. Nothing surprising there. And it seems significant that he apparently didn't increase the insurance cover on WTC 7 which he already owned. Of course no rational plotters wanting the Arab hijackers to bear the while blame would have included WTC 7 in the plot.

    Replies: @bjondo, @Jack McArthur

  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @MomsBasement
    @gay troll

    Thanks you for sharing. There are so many ways, perhaps infinite ways to contact infinite spirit. Many at this site seemed to have been raised within strict traditions and have benefited somewhat as a result. They ferocious defend the traditions they are heir to but may have missed out on something. There is a saying that it is easier to see the summit of the mountain from the bottom than from half-way up.

    In any case, I did start at the bottom. When I was 5, I asked my father, “Is there a God?” My father, a frustrated artist with almost no education, had just returned from a prolonged hospital stay recovering from alcohol-induced delirium tremens, hallucinations and all. He crisply replied, “Son, believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see.”

    My 5-year-old mind had difficulty processing that, but I knew my father wished the best for me; I adopted a “wait-and-see” attitude.

    When I was 10, I was standing on the school playground watching the other kids play, hearing their squeals of delight, when a thought came to me wrapped in some kind of peace I had never felt before. “Your father has died,” was the message. The feeling of peace was so unusual, that I accepted the message and felt it best for my father. I am reminded now of Nietzsche’s maxim, “thoughts that guide the world come on doves wings.” I felt the peace all the way home until my mother opened the door and, breaking into tears, informed me of what I already knew had happened.

    Fast forward, I entered a university on a science scholarship, completely ignorant of philosophy, theology, and “higher culture” in general. Soon, I found myself wandering in the woods behind the campus trying to feel myself in the trees instead of attending class. Diagnosis: I was a mystic, very bad sign for future earnings potential.

    On campus, there were plenty of fortress mentalities and well as rampant pride of pedigree to deal with. I never felt I should talk to about my situation, so as not to disturb what I felt within. If I wished, I could have consulted Renee Girard or Jacques Derrida, and others reasonably friendly and avaiiable, but I didn’t trust them with the type of question I had; instead, I resolved to go to the library and use the sensation in my finger tips to find and answer to the meaning of life. I entered the library elevator and ran my hand along the buttons until I felt a distinct light feeling in my finger tips that reminded me of the peace I felt years ago. I found that peace over the button leading to the basement.

    I left the elevator on the basement floor, held my left arm straight up and used the sensation in my finger tips to guide me down the many rows of book cases in this library of over a million volumes. Finally, I found a row of books that give me that feeling in my fingers. I turned left, walked halfway down that row of book cases before I came to a stop. I sensed something from a powder-blue book on the top self, almost beyond my reach. I took it down and read the title. It was “The Life Divine” by Aurobindo. Out of more than a million books, I found that one.

    That was more than 50 years ago. Many adventures grew out of that discovery.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    The link below is a short TedX talk by Dr. Christopher Kerr.

    Video Link

    My own father never knew his mother as she died when he was just born but at the end of his life, when he was far advanced with a dementia through multiple strokes, I watched him suddenly coming alert and looking towards a point in front of him and saying “Mom!”. He died shortly after but I never had any doubt that his mom was with him at the end and the link above seems to show that this is not at all unusual.

    • Replies: @MomsBasement
    @Jack McArthur

    Thank you for the link to the TED talk. This is useful to me since my wife is rapidly succumbing to ALS and is dreaming more. Although the lecturer was dismissive of paranormal phenomena, he did offer hope to all that dying could be a fulfilling experience. That was good.

    I’m disappointed that, for the most part, science still shuns the paranormal, even when empirical evidence might suggest otherwise. It would seem that science has no framework within which to conceive of such phenomena. The philosopher Kant may be partially to blame for this. He was unaware of the mathematics of Fourier and the distinction in Fourier analysis between the space-time domain and the so-called frequency domain. Consequently, he thought in terms of space and time only. Also, he felt pestered by the many inquiries he received concerning paranormal experiences and was overly eager to put the question to rest. As a consequence, most scientists think of the brain as imprisoned in space-time, despite the mystery of having a mind to begin with.

    I think it would be helpful for philosophers to someday conceive of the physical universe as signals unfolding in space-time and consider the frequency domain, the alternate representation of such signals as a simultaneous sum of frequencies (perceived as a textured light or sound with many overtones?) to be something like universal mind or akashic “ether” in which everything is stored timelessly. Perhaps the brain is sometimes able to perform Fourier transforms between these two domains, retrieving visions of persons, scenes, or great ideas. This would account for the many true visions that have been reported through the ages and heal some of the rancor between religious sects.

    An example of a true vision might be Tesla’s vision of the electric induction motor, which he claimed to receive while watching a sunset with a friend and reciting some lines from Goethe’s Faust. I read somewhere that Tesla had started practicing breath control techniques at the age of twelve. There was probably some knowledge of these techniques in Eastern European monasteries. I wonder if they were a part of the original Christianity.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • A New Dedicated Open Thread.
  • @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack McArthur

    The trouble with the 9/11 insurance claims seems to be twofold. Larry Silverstein had only just bought the Twin Towers and, as a condition of obtaining finance, he was required to update the insurance. Nothing surprising there. And it seems significant that he apparently didn't increase the insurance cover on WTC 7 which he already owned. Of course no rational plotters wanting the Arab hijackers to bear the while blame would have included WTC 7 in the plot.

    Replies: @bjondo, @Jack McArthur

    “The trouble with the 9/11 insurance claims seems to be twofold. Larry Silverstein had only just bought the Twin Towers and, as a condition of obtaining finance, he was required to update the insurance. Nothing surprising there. And it seems significant that he apparently didn’t increase the insurance cover on WTC 7 which he already owned. Of course no rational plotters wanting the Arab hijackers to bear the while blame would have included WTC 7 in the plot.”

    Thank you but do you know if Silverstein profited from the insurance claim or did it simply cover losses i.e was he in no better position after the claim was settled than when the lease was taken out (I am not familiar with building leases) ?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack McArthur

    I don't know but I have read various dubiously sourced allegations about his insurance. As someone who has tried screwing better terms from businesses I would think it par for the course that Silverstein would try for NY benefit that might be available and, if he did seek cover against terrorist attack that wouldn't have been available otherwise it doesn't surprise me that he might have adverted to it. Suppose he said "what's the worst danger to the Towers? " and some bright young spark said "Well remember what happened to the Empire State Building and imagine terrorists with a plane three times the size and at twice the speed".

    But what about the insurance company claimed against? Are we to suppose that it would run dead?

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack McArthur

    I don't know but I have read various dubiously sourced allegations about his insurance. As someone who has tried screwing better terms from businesses I would think it par for the course that Silverstein would try for NY benefit that might be available and, if he did seek cover against terrorist attack that wouldn't have been available otherwise it doesn't surprise me that he might have adverted to it. Suppose he said "what's the worst danger to the Towers? " and some bright young spark said "Well remember what happened to the Empire State Building and imagine terrorists with a plane three times the size and at twice the speed".

    But what about the insurance company claimed against? Are we to suppose that it would run dead?

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    As I wrote I am not suggesting another conspiracy theory at the human level though I cannot rule that out however, I think there were big problems in offloading the WTC because of asbestos (which I know a little about) as the clean out costs or demolition costs of buildings that scale would have been huge plus ongoing liability for claims (my brother in law died decades after coming into contact with asbestos). The short answer is that no sane property investor would touch such a risk because no sane insurer would cover the risk on anything but the most extortionate premiums.

    Of course the above argument rests on if asbestos was heavily present in the WTC and reliable sources says it was indeed in very large quantities.
    https://www.asbestos.com/world-trade-center/?PageSpeed=noscript

    I am struggling to understand how Silverstein was able to get insurance on those buildings or why he would pay extortionate premiums that any sensible insurer would charge. The conspiracy theorists would I guess simply say that he knew they were coming down and knowing he would never have to carry the cost for the safe demolition of the twin towers……

    The lease agreement would perhaps answer some of these questions.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    @Jack McArthur

    The following article from 1990 describes the risks associated with investments in commercial properties containing asbestos:
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-02-18-fi-1595-story.html

    This article from a conspiracy debunking site seems to describe a number of potential buyers in the market for the WTC (Jewish sounding names) and not just Silverstein. There is a vague mention of asbestos removal costs being reflected in the price but not liability for any future litigation or insurance premiums and scope.
    http://www.911myths.com/html/losing_money_at_the_wtc_.html

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz

  • @Jack McArthur
    @Wizard of Oz

    As I wrote I am not suggesting another conspiracy theory at the human level though I cannot rule that out however, I think there were big problems in offloading the WTC because of asbestos (which I know a little about) as the clean out costs or demolition costs of buildings that scale would have been huge plus ongoing liability for claims (my brother in law died decades after coming into contact with asbestos). The short answer is that no sane property investor would touch such a risk because no sane insurer would cover the risk on anything but the most extortionate premiums.

    Of course the above argument rests on if asbestos was heavily present in the WTC and reliable sources says it was indeed in very large quantities.
    https://www.asbestos.com/world-trade-center/?PageSpeed=noscript

    I am struggling to understand how Silverstein was able to get insurance on those buildings or why he would pay extortionate premiums that any sensible insurer would charge. The conspiracy theorists would I guess simply say that he knew they were coming down and knowing he would never have to carry the cost for the safe demolition of the twin towers......

    The lease agreement would perhaps answer some of these questions.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    The following article from 1990 describes the risks associated with investments in commercial properties containing asbestos:
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-02-18-fi-1595-story.html

    This article from a conspiracy debunking site seems to describe a number of potential buyers in the market for the WTC (Jewish sounding names) and not just Silverstein. There is a vague mention of asbestos removal costs being reflected in the price but not liability for any future litigation or insurance premiums and scope.
    http://www.911myths.com/html/losing_money_at_the_wtc_.html

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack McArthur

    ⁸I haven't read your last link properly but I do agree that the asbestos question and the asbestos related insurance questions deserve attention. In your first link, which I had discovered independently, you may have noticed that the builders stopped using asbestos after the 40th floor as regulations were about to change. One can imagine some up and coming insurance executive or broker, keen to get Silverstein and Lowy's business allowing himself to be conned by assurances that they had a program for stripping the asbestos over X years and, in the meantime, covering it with impermeable protective material. So, one doesn't have to suppose that there was a conspiracy of Jews against non Jews to dud the investors in insurance.

    It goes without saying that Silverstein would have used asbestos to talk the price down that he had to pay the New Yor Port Authority.
    BTW it occurs to me that there was, very likely, some huge tax advantage in the way things were set up for Silverstein,possibly .asking all the costs of dealing with asbestos an instant tax write off.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

  • @Wizard of Oz
    @Jack McArthur

    ⁸I haven't read your last link properly but I do agree that the asbestos question and the asbestos related insurance questions deserve attention. In your first link, which I had discovered independently, you may have noticed that the builders stopped using asbestos after the 40th floor as regulations were about to change. One can imagine some up and coming insurance executive or broker, keen to get Silverstein and Lowy's business allowing himself to be conned by assurances that they had a program for stripping the asbestos over X years and, in the meantime, covering it with impermeable protective material. So, one doesn't have to suppose that there was a conspiracy of Jews against non Jews to dud the investors in insurance.

    It goes without saying that Silverstein would have used asbestos to talk the price down that he had to pay the New Yor Port Authority.
    BTW it occurs to me that there was, very likely, some huge tax advantage in the way things were set up for Silverstein,possibly .asking all the costs of dealing with asbestos an instant tax write off.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    What should have happened as part of any investigation was Silverstein under oath providing firm details regarding the deal, the insurance etc so that any human conspiracy could have been discounted regarding profiting from the collapse. What the debunkers claim may be true, their sources in the press may be true but then again.

    Anyhow I have no real interest in conspiracies theories – not because I think they are all junk but because it disturbs my peace knowing that in the absence of a miracle it will never been known for sure in this life and I am in the home straight.

    As an aside there was a terrible blaze in tower block in England a few years ago and inquiry into it is still proceeding but by one of those coincidences that sometimes happen in life I was visiting a friend whose son happened to be in at the time and we both watched the news broadcast showing the spread of the fire that was to take many lives. Within five minutes between us we were able to say what had caused the fire to spread so rapidly because I had been involved in flame testing of plastics and fire retardant additives according to national standards and he was in charge of engineers who routinely saw and reported defects in inter-floor stoppers that his men encountered when working on such towers. Can the dragging out of such costly investigations be called a conspiracy?

    Video Link
    Two final comments on the WTC. It would be of no surprise me in the least that Israel and its lapdogs in the US knew about the plan to hit the WTC and did nothing to stop it or even worse covertly helped it by means that could be plausibly denied because it was strategically in their interest to do so. A similar argument can be made for Oswald and the assassination. To some degree he may have been a patsy by elements who hated JFK (they still exist today in their dotage).

    The second point relates to the spectacular demolition of both towers which I gather some experts deny could have happened based on the specification and construction of the towers. In the late 1960’s tower blocks and large communal building were being erected in the UK based on kit type prefabricated concrete walls. A gas appliance exploded which led to a domino effect in which the corner of a tower block entirely collapsed at Ronan Point .

    Video Link

    In the early 1980’s Adam Curtis made a documentary on how such prefabricated buildings were a ticking time bomb because in order to meet targets the workers who made the walls skipped on quality control so that the specified number of pegs which were meant to ensure the structural integrity of each interlinking wall and therefore the whole building were often just chopped off if they were out of specification.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4

    Video Link
    This may have zero to do with the WTC but I wonder if this has been discounted (how could it be after the event unless workers come forward?).

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
  • Primo Levi, Italian author of If this is a man (1947) — “a pillar of Holocaust literature” according to Wikipedia —, wrote a short fictional story titled “un testamento”, consisting of the last recommendation of a member of the guild of the “tooth-pullers” to his son. Its ends with these words: There is no literary...
  • @MomsBasement
    @Jack McArthur

    Thank you for the link to the TED talk. This is useful to me since my wife is rapidly succumbing to ALS and is dreaming more. Although the lecturer was dismissive of paranormal phenomena, he did offer hope to all that dying could be a fulfilling experience. That was good.

    I’m disappointed that, for the most part, science still shuns the paranormal, even when empirical evidence might suggest otherwise. It would seem that science has no framework within which to conceive of such phenomena. The philosopher Kant may be partially to blame for this. He was unaware of the mathematics of Fourier and the distinction in Fourier analysis between the space-time domain and the so-called frequency domain. Consequently, he thought in terms of space and time only. Also, he felt pestered by the many inquiries he received concerning paranormal experiences and was overly eager to put the question to rest. As a consequence, most scientists think of the brain as imprisoned in space-time, despite the mystery of having a mind to begin with.

    I think it would be helpful for philosophers to someday conceive of the physical universe as signals unfolding in space-time and consider the frequency domain, the alternate representation of such signals as a simultaneous sum of frequencies (perceived as a textured light or sound with many overtones?) to be something like universal mind or akashic “ether” in which everything is stored timelessly. Perhaps the brain is sometimes able to perform Fourier transforms between these two domains, retrieving visions of persons, scenes, or great ideas. This would account for the many true visions that have been reported through the ages and heal some of the rancor between religious sects.

    An example of a true vision might be Tesla’s vision of the electric induction motor, which he claimed to receive while watching a sunset with a friend and reciting some lines from Goethe’s Faust. I read somewhere that Tesla had started practicing breath control techniques at the age of twelve. There was probably some knowledge of these techniques in Eastern European monasteries. I wonder if they were a part of the original Christianity.

    Replies: @Jack McArthur

    “As a consequence, most scientists think of the brain as imprisoned in space-time, despite the mystery of having a mind to begin with.”

    The Ancient Egyptians discarded the brain during mummification as if it had no purpose in the next world with the transfigured body (Akha).

    If the brain is actually a filter which sequences reality into distinct time laden packets we experience as one event following another then it chimes with the mystics experience of the “now” of eternity and echoed in William Blake’s:

    “If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro’ narrow chinks of his cavern.”

    Spirit seems not to be dependent on matter or forces which act on matter albeit matter can be the medium for it but that is the view from the cavern.

  • There is a deceitful and ahistorical myth that frequently resurfaces in right-wing circles seeking to discredit socialism with lies about the Russian Revolution. No matter how many times it has been invalidated as fabrication, the reactionary mythos endures. As might be expected, the author is referring to the preposterous claim that American capitalists — or...
  • Jewish over representation in the Russian Revolution acknowledged

    “Was the Russian Revolution Jewish?” SETH J. FRANTZMAN PHD, Jerusalem Post
    https://www.jpost.com/magazine/was-the-russian-revolution-jewish-514323

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    @Jack McArthur


    Stalin was a Georgian. Felix Dzerzhinsky, who established the Soviet secret police, was a Polish aristocrat.
     
    And the thoroughly evil Dzerzhinsky was, in addition to being the founder of the bloody CheKa, the son of a Polish Jew who had changed the family name in a successful bid for a place among the Polish nobility.

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