On a Interesting side note Banana’s are one of the few Australian agricultural commodities that are unlikely to find a market in Asia due to Australia’s high labour costs. So in that sense Australia will never become a true Banana Republic. P.S you have to understand the context in which such conversation start. 🍌🍌🍌

Australia was a Banana Republic aka economic basket case prior to that.

Complete bullshit.

Keating’s “banana republic” comment was just one of the over the top expressions he was inclined towards. (The “recession we had to have” was another one, and which mightily upset other members of the Labor caucus). The basic point of it was simply a warning against a too heavy reliance on resources exports; he certainly didn’t claim Australia was a banana republic, much less a “basket case” (a term which dates back to WWI, and referred to a soldier who’d had his limbs blown away and had to be carried in a basket).

Ah, I see. So Australia is nothing like Honduras or Guatemala, now or then. Much in the same way that Russia is nothing like Gabon or Thailand now or then. Well except in a very narrow economic sense lacking in any nuance, framed in such way as to make a particular point. E.g. Paul Keating, Blinky Bill, Lee Kuan Yew and Thulean Friend.

With all due respect, both those statements are absurd.

But yet you go onto argue……

middling countries like Russia or Thailand

Russia has never tasted it once.

Your views on Russia and Eastern Europe remind me a great deal of the animation I linked early to. Hyper realistic in one sense wholly untruthful in another.

Interesting discussion of the future of US role in the world post-Cold-War. From 1990. Watching this, we realize how so much went wrong.

Also, McLaughlin speaks of TWIN GEEKS at 11:10.

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Stagnation is more in

Nations and civilizations rise and fall, and is something dynamic. So it does not make sense just to choose the current time point, as you might perhaps be comparing one nation’s peak with another nation’s bottom. What time point will you select for a fair comparison? You need to compare high points with high points, and low points with low points.

In the situation of the Russian world?

If we look at e.g. 1960-1970. In those years, the Russian world was dominating very many areas of human achievement, and even the internal situation had a strongly upward trajectory. That’s besides, controlling by far the largest land in the world (with Southern borders on Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey, and Eastern borders to Poland and Romania), also controlling indirectly partially many foreign countries all the way to Berlin – developing the world’s 2nd or 1st military power, and even quite an amount of soft power to influence parts of countries which were outside indirect control (for example, even countries like France and Italy).

In that time point, the appearance was of overachieving people. On the other hand, if you look at the current time point, then the impression is of stagnation and underachieving people (really it is after several decades of decline in relative power).

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Similarly, if we choose Sweden in 1850, then everyone will be talking about stagnation, poverty and underachievement. On the other hand, Sweden 1960 – the discussion was concluding the opposite. It was considered utopia by international observers.

Hence my comparison with ‘fancy Asians vs jungle Asians’ in a European context. Nobody would claim Thailand is on par with Nigeria, just as they would balk at any serious comparison with Japan or South Korea. There’s a middle-layer here that middling countries like Russia or Thailand occupy. Still decent countries by any stretch. Just incapable of becoming economically elite/exceptional.

An interesting comparison. However Eastern Europe has not yet fully recovered from Communism so the current situation vis a vis the rest of Europe does not necessarily represent something natural and permanent. Before Communism, Hungary and the Czechs were certainly within Western European norms. Even Ukrainian Galicia, tied with Croatia as poorest part of Austria, was richer than Portugal.

https://twitter.com/neweconforum/status/1197527347534221313

Husby and Tensta are some of the more notorious so-called “no-go zones” in Stockholm. I’ve been to both of them multiple times, passing through. Believe me, they are leafy and pleasant. Most of the pictures you see on the internet are taken during the winter, and often in narrow side-alleys to make it look much more grim than they are, to undergird the narrative of “oppressed/betrayed migrants”.

The Australian Swedish connection.

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1 in 5 Chinese American girls is a foreign born adoptee

What a blatant lie!

There are 5 million Chinese Americans and 80 thousand adoptions in total from China in the last 20 years. 1500 adoptions from China in 2018. How can you possibly make the math work ? Make America Think Harder !

Do you know why they don’t show their math, because they haven’t done any !

Does anyone else believe this statement ? Twinkie, Thulean Friend, Audacious Epigone. I shall defer to those who know more about the United States than I. It just seems outlandish to me.

1 in 5 Chinese American girls is a foreign born adoptee

That’s a remarkable statistic more than 20% of all the Chinese girls in America are adopted from overseas. Out of a population of 5 million Chinese Americans. I just don’t know what to say.

I have just done the math myself and come to the conclusion it is 1
in 10 or about 10%. I won’t quibble the difference, so I concede the point and apologize. I still find this number shocking. If prior to my research I had to guess I would have said it was in the vicinity of 1-2%.

I believe that one country’s nationalism helps build and maintain that of its neighbors, just as one country’s poz helps poz its neighbors.

To the extent that your neighbour’s nationalism is aimed at you, sure, it certainly helps building the case for domestic nationalists as it gives them a strong and credible threat immediately placed on the country’s borders.

Were non-FSU countries in the Warsaw Pact threatened that they’d be taken over by the Soviets in any serious sense? I don’t know enough about these countries to give an intelligent answer.

What about “positive” nationalism of the kind you mentioned, i.e. pride of accomplishment?
In Sweden, Sputnik is portrayed as a Russian achievement, by which I mean Russian speakers of East Slavic origin. Maybe it was propagandised differently behind the Iron Curtain, but that is how it was and still is perceived here.

It could be that one of the main attack vectors of poz was English language acquisition, and being required to learn Russian put a damper on this.

Language is central to influence. Which is why Indian English-speaking elites are far more westernised than Chinese elites.

Does anyone know what accounts for Russia’s relatively poor economic performance?

Pizza followed by Vodka !

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Thank god for Vladimir Putin !!!

Hi Thulean friend
Thanks a lot for the informed commentry. Really I despair when I have to read Karpins nonsense time and again on Unz. All these faux and ultimately meaningless statistics which he carefully selects and then selectively reads to make preconceived points. I believe readers of Unz are anyhow already way beyond believing the anti Russian drivel that the mass media shower us with. No need to paint Russia and her situation in better colours than she deserves. Fact of the matter is that Putin did indeed do a lot of good and things are incomparably better than in the Nineties. But now the regime has ossified and there is a lot of bad things going on. Especially if you are young and ambitious and not of either a good family or with Western contacts (like Karlin) things are getting worse.
I had a long and frank talk with a lawyer in St.Petersburg. He is a Russian patriot (maybe he shouldn´t tell these things to a foreigner he said to me) and from a “good” that is KGB family. His father served with Putin in East Germany so there is nothing to fear for him personally. He told me that the criminal police and the tax authorities are running absolutely wild. He says it is like a new 37. Surely some hyperbole but what is happening is that small entrepeneurs (of course not Oligarchs with Kremlin connections) are accused of some arbitrary criminal offense and then shaken down. It is a mass phenomenen and in court his clients always win in the end. But things rarely get to court.Most people fold before they get their day in court and simply pay. The reason being that they are put in pre trial detention where conditions are so bad (food, sanitary conditions and medical care) that they rather give up than come back with damaged health.There is no torture but what the authorities do as well is put the most obstinate in a cell with hardened criminals and then promise these criminals a partial pardon if the accused confess to whatever they were accused of.
I don´t know nor think that these things originate with the Kremlin. They are more the result of a certain hyper capitalism that is understood as making money by any means possible.
If you further consider the abysmal pay in Universities (no tenure on top) and the fact that these small companies that are being if not destroyed than severely hampered were an important outlet for young gifted Russians you understand why lot´s of young Russian would immediately leave when given the chance. The good thing for Russia though is that there are not given the chance. It is anything but easy to gain a foothold in the West. Crazy but true it is easier to claim asylum in Europe for any iliterate Arab than it is to gain a work visa for a highly qualified Russian.
SO THANKS AGAIN THULEAN FRIEND.

Ukrainian Azov battalion taking part in HK riots.

Using China’s economic growth as a stick to beat Russia with is really quite distasteful. The expression used by Xi and other Chinese officials is to describe the relationship as a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between Russia and China. What is good for one is good for the other, especially in an economic sense. China can truly be a driver for Russian economic growth and vice versa. There is immense good will towards Russia from all strata of Chinese society from the Standing Committee to the common man. They understand that they both face common obstacles and challenges.

Beware the wreckers. SinoRusso friendship forever !!!

Using Russia’s economic growth as a stick to beat China with is really quite distasteful. The expression used by Putin and other Russian officials is to describe the relationship as a союзник between Russia and China. What is good for one is good for the other, especially in an economic sense. Russia can truly be a driver for Chinese economic growth and vice versa. There is immense good will towards China from all strata of Russian society from the Duma to the common man. They understand that they both face common obstacles and challenges.

Stabbings are an everyday occurrence in London these days, depressing.

Your average Chinaman is far less likely to get stabbed by a vibrant that they haven’t collected from all over the Third World. So at least they have that going for them.

Wogs start at Calais. 😉

Why are you people seemingly intent on Russia becoming a mining colony/natural resource appendage and tourist trap for the West.

It’s called doing business. Australia a Western Country has done very well at it and is never described as such !

Scratch a Slav, find a Mongol 👱=👲 LOL

Expect the eradication of all of the it’s remaining population control policies within a year. But will it make any difference ? Will the Chinese respond more positively to incentives than Westerners have ? What about coercion ? Next population census in 2020 will be pivotal for future population policy in PRC. Hard decision will need to be made soon !!

Harbin is also very nice during this time of the year, but I must admit nowhere near as picturesque as St. Petersburg or Stockholm.

I don’t want to dox myself. But I will answer with a name Yul Brynner. I hope you understand. A man of your intellect should easily be able to decipher that.

beautiful photo

If about picturesque snowfalls-Kamchatka is the world champion
after snowfall:

I hope you know that geographically Siberia and the Far East aren´t equivalent. You are citing almost exclusively subejcts of the federation that aren´t Siberian. YOu are comparing apples with pairs.
As to “equivalent” regions: Saskatshewan, Manitoba and Alberta would be equivalent to Siberia in terms of climate, land use and ressource extraction.
Well according to Wikipedia the three provinces together had about 7 million inhabitants. Siberia without the Far east is about 24 Million but much, much bigger. Even if you include the Far East you get no more than 30 Million. I am amazed how little you know your own country. But then you are a Muscovite and like Thulefriend very truly said: Moscow is another planet. I just wish you wouldn´t just make up things as you go along.

How come no results for Vietnam? They did quite well in 2015 and they participated for 2018 as well. As for Mainland China part of the reason for their surge is the replacement of mediocre Guangdong with top educational province Zhejiang

this ‘asians yellow’ graph thing is starting to be wrong – about half of them are indians, who are brown.

Partly correct. Indian immigrants in the U.S. are highly selected – 70+% with tertiary education, 40% with graduate degrees (from a country where about 15% of the population has college degrees). And they have grown explosively in the last couple of decades in number in the West. However, half is overblown. They are about 20% of the Asian population in the U.S.

the main driver of this phenomenon is the upper class people in China and India using the west as an escape valve. that’s mainly what’s going on.

the smart ones are exiting in greater numbers. they aren’t getting any smarter. just concentrating in the west.

Indians, yes. Chinese, no longer true. More than 90 percent of Chinese students in the U.S. return to China. And as Chinese “tier-one” cities become first world area (in some ways world class), Chinese cognitive elites are increasingly concentrating in such cities, not in the West (though Chinese financial elites often invest in the West and perhaps even obtain permanent residency in the latter as a hedge against instability/political changes back home).

We’ve already seen this with Japanese and Korean immigrants. The former are miniscule in number and the latter are drying up (forget the fall in the rate of increase – between the last two Censuses, the absolute number of people identifying as Korean in the U.S. fell). This is likely to happen with Chinese immigrants, barring any sudden change in China.

Finno-Ugrics are Asians.

China Swede was a derogatory term used for Finnish immigrants in the United States during the early 1900s, particularly in Minnesota and Michigan.

👱 = 👲

Olli (Olof) Kiukkonen Kinkkonen (June 10, 1880 – September 18, 1918) was a Finnish-American dockworker and logger. He was lynched in Duluth, Minnesota on September 18, 1918.

Yeah, but he was lynched not because he was a Finn, but because he refused to fight in World War 1.

Which is actually one of the dumbest possible reasons to lynch someone.

Imagine being so gay that you support Woodrow Wilson’s war effort. The people who did it must have been proto-boomers.

It’s called doing business. Australia a Western Country has done very well at it and is never described as such !

Well … hardly ever.

820 pound wild hog killed in Alabama:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-wild-hog-alabama-20170720-story.html

I’ve seen much bigger hogs in Minnesota. Wolves get eaten by them.

And who the hell is immigrating to Saudi Arabia?

Either highly skilled professionals, mostly from the West, or largely South Asian labourers. However, there has been a growing share of South Asian professionals in the gulf countries, too.

If you look at Mauritius (50% Indian population, and not drawn from their high-caste elite), their top 5% performs around the same as the OECD in TIMSS. In Singapore, Indians are mostly drawn from the descendants indentured labour class, at least up to 1990, yet were earning almost 90% of what Chinese did in 1990 and now outearn them.

India and South Asia in general are really bad at educating their youth at home, but they tend to do okay abroad.

A bit of context for those who are not familiar with China and its population distribution: Shanghai (25 million), Beijing (21 million), Zhejiang Province (56 million) and Jiangsu Province (80 million). For these four municipal cities and provinces alone, we are talking about a population size of 185 million people in total, roughly 60% of all U.S. population.

My thinking about the skinsuit game was way too simplistic.

As I once said Audie-San, your potential is impressive.

Blacks obviously didn’t vote for Ben Carson, and they’re not going to vote for a silver-spooned wannabe quadroon just because she expects them to.

Maybe if Biden wasn’t in the race, she’d have been the black candidate.

No Sir, Kamala, is, was and always will be a white woman’s candidate.And Corey Booker is a White man’s. If Gropy-Joe were not in the race it would be Bernie Sanders. E.W. has not an ounce of charisma or likeability and is not EASILY tieable to anything. Black people like totems with charisma; Bill Clinton was the “loveable country redneck”, Barry was the “Black dude who not going to make an ass of himself like my family.” Gropy Joe is “the dumb, old white guy I work with on the dock who is funny, and eats BBQwith us once in a while”, and Bernie is “That crazy old white liberal who ain’t gon’ do shit, but it sounds good.”

What’s Kamala’s totem? shit if I can tell. Probably, “onea them uptown mulatto heffers who thinks she’s better than us..”

Even Lizzie is “That nice ol’ white lady who approved my benefits.” What’s

The fatal flaw in heralding Harris was not realizing this. It’s also the fatal flaw in the steady stream of predictions that have been made over the last several months about Biden’s impending collapse. It’s not just that blacks don’t care about his dottering gaffes or alleged political missteps in the past–it’s that they view the reactions to these things that are unfavorable to Biden as attacks on their guy and thus on themselves. Harris learned that the hard way.

President Obama’s Kenyan/Kansan heritage makes him about as authentically African American as one can be but, in some camps, his “racial bona fides” — son of an African immigrant, and a white mother who raised him in Asia and then sent him to grow up with his white grandparents in Hawaii — suggest he is not culturally “black enough.”

Now, it turns out that Barack Obama is apparently descended from a slave – on his mother’s side.

The genealogy Web site Ancestry.com has done research that they say confirms that Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, is descended from a historically significant Virginia slave named John Punch. The Web site’s archival and DNA research supports the theory that descendants of Punch, one of very few Africans in early Colonial Virginia, were white landowners in Virginia and ancestors of Kansas-born Dunham — who would be a great-great-great-great–great-great-great-great-great-great grandchild of the unlucky Punch.

One more reason to love Barry Dunham. 50.00000000001%

I’m Andrew Yang and I approve this message.

Don’t you think Yang could have a shtick?

“The Asian guy who owns the dollar mart who likes to be very helpful by walking behind me down every aisle.”

No?

Peace.

China is the future and it is very bleak, one of raceless, borderless globalism and a technological dystopia.

What’s happening to the Uyghurs at the moment is being reported because it is intended as a warning to anyone else who thinks they can resist the coming global society. The UN visited some of the concentration camps that Uyghurs are being held in and gave their approval, which tells you all you need to know. This is sanctioned by the globalists/global elite and is the future of the world as a whole.

My hunch — or vain hope — is that immigrants do worse than natives partly from lack of effort

Am I reading Unz or the usual leftist blank slate talking points I am accustomed to getting in the mainstream press? You have an impressionable mind.

Even basic things like translations will always distort the original text in more or less subtle ways

East Asians have consistently been at the very top in reading scores in PISA in all years. Not as well as in math but still at the world class level. Furthermore, why would 2nd gen migrants who are fluent in the native language do worse because of some diffuse “cultural factors” in a non-English speaking country? That’s nonsense on stilts.

Does anyone truly believe that ethnic Swedes are genetically worse at math than ethnic Germans and Dutchmen? A simpler answer is that we do worse than them because our school system teaches math worse than theirs

You’re comparing a set of people who are extremely similar genetically, so yes I do tend to agree with you here. But PISA for the most part does not test groups who are extremely similar genetically. You’re taking an edge case in trying to explain the general pattern. Never a good idea.

Nobody here, as far as I am aware, argues for a 100% hereditian framework. But PISA is very g-loaded, as Rindermann has showed many years back (close to 0.80 or more IIRC), so while there is room for culture among very similar populations (like Northern Germanic nationalities), to argue that culture would be on equal standing with more harder constraints for the overall population would obviously be silly. Though, in fairness, you have not made that argument (yet).

Bezos was born Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen on January 12, 1964, in Albuquerque, the son of Jacklyn Gise Jorgensen and Ted Jorgensen. At the time of his birth, his mother was a 17-year-old high school student, and his father was a bike shop owner. After Jacklyn divorced Ted, she married Cuban immigrant Miguel “Mike” Bezos in April 1968. Shortly after the wedding, Mike adopted four-year-old Jorgensen, whose surname was then changed to Bezos.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/did-jeff-bezos-ever-list-himself-as-hispanic/

It would be a perfect opportunity to grab ethnically Russian regions.

Felix Keverich

Persians surprising to some and Tamil Brahmins perhaps another ?

I don’t recall any Kyrgyz Pupin, Tesla or Milankovic

One of Anatoly Karlins favourites 😅 is the best the Kazakhs could produce.

Colonel Kanatzhan “Kanat” Alibekov (Kazakh: Қанатжан Әлібеков, Qanatzhan Älibekov; Russian: Канатжан Алибеков, Kanatzhan Alibekov; born 1950) – known as Kenneth “Ken” Alibek since 1992 – is a former Soviet physician, microbiologist, and biological warfare (BW) expert. He rose rapidly in the ranks of the Soviet Army to become the First Deputy Director of Biopreparat, where he oversaw a vast program of BW facilities. Also a turncoat.

No doubt many commenters will criticize this article as another “chi-com” propaganda and Chinese shills, but invariably, the critiques will fail to appreciate the deep and profound importance Chinese place on education for thousands of years. In addition to the civil exam (keju) that the author mentions, consider a few of the following historical factoids:

1. Confucius was the first in the world to found a private school over 2000 years ago, without the support of any government fund. Further, he proposed the idea (有教无类) that all people, regardless of status, class or background (even for slave), should be allowed to receive education. It was an idea that was so well ahead of time. In addition, he did not require any students to pay any tuition – everyone could pay according to what they could afford: a piece of silver, a sack of rice, some chores or nothing at all.

2. Mencius, another great philosopher in the Warring State, set another example of the role of education. His mother had to move their place of residence three times because the neighborhood was not conducive to learning. One time, the young Mencius skipped class from school. The mom took out a scissor and cut a piece of painstakingly weaved fabric (their main income) into pieces. It taught the young Mencius that skipping classes was like cutting fabric: they disrupted all previous efforts. This happened in an era when basic necessity of life was still scarce for almost everyone.

3. In Han dynasty, a poor young man loved to read very much. Since he had to work in the field during day time, the only time he could study was at night. But he could not afford the price of lamp oil, so whenever it got dark, it created a problem. Desperately, he found a method by drilling a hole in the wall so that he could read next to the hole under the light from the neighbor.

4. YueFei, the most renounced general from the Song dynasty (or the whole Chinese history) was also known to be studious since young. Unable to afford the writing material, he improvised by using tree branch to practice writing on sand spread out on the floor.

All these stories are still being taught to young students in Chinese schools today. To truly appreciate Chinese culture, people need to understand the centrality of education and the sacrifices they are willing to undertake. It is good that Internet has lowered the cost of learning tremendously, but even a few decades ago, I personally knew of a poor Chinese couple who were willing to spending their life-saving so that their son could receive a good education.

This is nothing to do with communism or PRC brainwashing.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-cossacks-culturally-appropriated-kazakhs/

You’re welcome 😉.

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One of my favourite Russian songs performed by Kazakh smart fraction member Dimash. They sure wouldn’t invite Ken Alibek to the Kremlin.

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Swedish Family & Thulean Friend,

Why are Swedes the Europeans with the most negative view of China? Pew – International Views of China

The most negative in the world, next to Japan.

I remember Frédéric Cho — Sweden’s best-known China expert — saying, a year or two ago, that much of China’s bad press in Sweden is an American import. When Washington views China favorably, so does Stockholm; when Washington ramps up the rhetoric, Stockholm — and Sweden’s public opinion — follows suit.

There is a lot of truth to this, and the same argument broadly holds for Russia. Another factor is what I call Sweden’s overidentification with social liberalism and the postwar world order, which, simply put, means that Swedes are scared to death of anything that smells of authoritarianism (as defined by liberal standards).

These may all be academic and historical debates, but this caste system has very real repercussions even up to our time. These past few weeks, there have been a wave of rapes in the news in India. Two stand out. One in Hyderabad, another in Unnao.

In Hyderabad, four underclass rapists went after a veterinarian Hindu woman. Some of the rapists were moslem. The Indian police summarily executed them to great public cheering after an intense period of ourage in the media.

Another case happened in Unnao, Uttar Pradesh. There, the rapists were five high-caste men(four Trivedi and one Bajpai) who raped a victim of lower social standing. When she bravely decided to book them for their crimes, and went on her own to the courtroom for the trial, they intercepted her and burned her alive. She managed to run 1 km(!) before she collapsed. The doctors tried to save her life but she died a few days ago.

Nothing has yet happened to them and the media is far more circumspect. There is some discussion in the media but far from the intensive outrage. While the caste system is not as blatant for the most part in India in the manner it was during Dr. Ambedkar’s life, it is very much present in the social fabric and it rears its ugly head from time to time.

The thing that I find fascinating about caste in India is how it seems to transcend religion. Christianity, Islam, and Sikhism all seem structurally more egalitarian, but each seems to perpetuate some idea of caste.

This is an excellent point. I have always found the distinction between the Ashraf, Ajlaf and Arzal in Subcontinental Islam both perplexing and fascinating. As you most definitely already know Razib Khan has written extensively about this and the Caste structures present in Sikhism and South Asian Christianity.

As someone who lives for more than one decade in China and works in education, your ideas about Chinese students and the education system here are hilarious, much as your other fiction about China. With your idea about the 三字经 and the role it would play in education I actually made my students laugh. Thanks for that.

We all know the effect that the emigration of Russians, German, and Koreans back to their respective homelands had on the Kazakhstani Smart fraction. But what about the immigration of the Kazakh Оралман (Returnees) from Russia, China, Mongolia and the other Stans back to Kazakhstan. What kind of cognitive profile do they possess ? We know that ethnic Russians in Kazakhstan possess a higher average IQ than those in Russia 103 Vs 100. What about ethnic Kazakhs in Russia and China, do they possess higher average IQs than their co ethnics at home ?

An additional question, is there a North-South cline for ethnic Kazakh IQ in Kazakhstan as we know exists for ethnic Russians in Russia or perhaps an East-West one? Can this be ascertained from present data by ignoring co-variables ? Anatoly/ Russosphere experts any Idea ?

One example of the elite Human Capital that the Russians/Koreans have gifted Kazakhstan.

Gennadiy Golovkin was born on 8 April 1982, in the city of Karaganda in the Kazakh SSR, Soviet Union (present-day Kazakhstan) to a Russian coal miner father and Korean mother, who worked in a chemical laboratory.

I couldn’t even watch the video…

And this behavior from a civilization thousands of years older than ours in the west…

The west was actually the youngest of all the great civilizations as we started farming later than all of the others. We were a race of herders…Someone once said that is why we still have such a strong attachment to dogs and horses.

It’s a puzzlement.

Not to mention the forced organ donations from living people…

I don’t care what anyone says about the Chinese, there is definitely some critical element missing here, like empathy or something…

Deus vult!

Tu quoque!

It is amazing that a troll like @nymom could hijack a comment thread of article on education into slaughtering of animals.

I am sometime quite amazed by the shameless-ness of these anti-China trolls.

Dog eating has a long history of consumption in Asia including China and Korea as peasant food. However, the spread of religion such as Buddhism and Islam which prohibits the consumption of certain meats as well as the dawn of the Industrial Revolution saw an almost complete wipeout of the practice with isolated places in China in North Korea the only remaining places that have niche markets for it. The practice didn’t become mainstream knowledge until 2009 when the prefecture of Yulin, Guangxi Province in China started the 10 days long “Lychee and Dog Meat Festival” where festival-goers eat lychee fruit and dog meat. The festival was originally authorized by local officials as an attempt to draw in more tourists and businesses to the city. The city government has since distanced itself from the festival due to popular backlash over it. As well, there have been other dog meat festivals such as the Jinhua Hutou dog meat festival in East China’s Zhejiang province. But the Yulin festival has been the poster child due to its media coverage.

Facts:

The consumption of dog meat is limited to Yulin after the Jinhua Festival was banned in 2011.

The supply of dogs killed for the festival was <1000 in 2015

Survey results of Chinese living in Yulin about Dog eating:

72% have never eaten dog meat or rarely eat it.

28% eat it on a regular basis

12% percent eating it weekly

Chinese celebrities such as Chen Kun, Yang Mi, and Fan Bingbing have spoken out against it.

Peter Li, China policy specialist for HSI, said: “Despite the effort by dog traders to heavily promote the eating of dog for the last seven years, it’s clear that the majority of Yulin residents still don’t eat it on anything like a regular basis. The truth is that eating dog and cat is not part of China’s mainstream culinary practice even in Yulin, the home of the dog meat festival. We’ve already seen the Yulin authorities take steps to curb the sale of dog meat, so we hope that these survey results will encourage them to go even further. Far from being vital to the Yulin economy or way of life, the dog meat festival is a national disgrace that tarnishes the name of the city around the world. Now is the time to end it.”

Qin Xiaona, director of CAWA, said: “The survey results are encouraging. The survey tells the world that Yulin’s food culture is not defined by the local dog meat traders. Their cultural claim is not supported by the survey. Those of us who lived in Guangxi in the past know that dog meat consumption was a distasteful habit. You just did not cook dog meat in your own kitchen. The survey results should encourage the Yulin authorities to correct the misperception perpetrated by the dog meat industry by fostering a new and healthy food culture in line with the rapid progress in the rest of the country.”

Besides dogs, Chinese also eat : birds nests, shark fins, snakes, cats and monkeys.

Besides dogs, Europeans also eat : nerves, ears, frogs, cats and horses.

Human embryos are eaten “for health”.

Europeans eat people “for fun”.

Tu quoque!

This Japanese professor said that the Japanese were good copiers (like the Chinese), but were not good innovators, and he lamented the fact that, for all the studying, very few Nobel prize winners ever came out of Japan.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/japanese-win-another-nobel-prize-again/

Slaughtering people for organ theft is an official government industry.

Sorry, you are confusing China with “democratic” Kosovo. That’s what the US and its vassals created.

> is there a North-South cline for ethnic Kazakh IQ

Visually, yes. Using lots of assumptions, quantitatively also yes.

Using just simple regional data, region GPS from wiki, regression of IQ vs Latitude statistically significant,

IQkz = +59.45 +0.53*Lat; #n=14; Rsq=0.3986; p=0.01545 * (Sig)

The simple average of %Kaz+%Rus is 89.1%, with about 10.9% error margin iqnoring the contribution of the rest of the ethnics, the IQ contribution of Kaz and Rus,

IQkz = +86.11 -0.053*PctKaz +0.11*PctRus; #n=14; Rsq=0.7352; p=0.0006701 *** (VVSig)

Thus roughly, with margin of error of 10.9%, the average IQs of Native Kaz 80.8, Rus 97.1

With that rough estimate of native Kaz IQ, there are no N/S or E/W IQ clines. However for the Rus, there is strong N/S cline,

IQrus = +46.59 +0.72*Lat; #n=14; Rsq=0.4529; p=0.008351 ** (VSig)

and borderline E/W cline,

IQrus = +67.0 +0.22*Lon; #n=14; Rsq=0.2752; p=0.05411 . (Borderline)

Is it strange how high chinks are but now utterly medium russians are?

I cast doubt into this report.

Education means nothing without results anyway, and I don’t see much innovation or improvement coming from chinese technology.

The gaokao stats can be used to extrapolate from B-S-J-Z to other provinces. Places such as Guizhou , Qinghai, Guangxi, and even Guangdong (all places with genetics measurably different from BSJZ) do score much lower, but places such as Hunan Hubei & Hebei score better. Only that the gaokao is taken at age 18, and therefore automatically excludes the bottom few percent of the population who have already dropped out at that point.

Thank you for such a prompt and detailed response dux.ie. It is much appreciated !!

Plausible Scenarios Where Dems Clean House
Biden-Yang

Yielding to Yang 😂

Finland’s government is now led by these five party leaders.

Beautiful wreaths shown on the very last photo.
Quite symbolic, too. Russian tricolors and imperial coat of arms gently hugging a fallen Red Army solders monument dedicated to eleven army sappers, if I am not mistaken.
Time to heal wounds.

> What about ethnic Kazakhs in Russia and China, do they possess higher average IQs than their co ethnics at home ?

https://openpsych.net/forum/attachment.php?aid=616

Differences in intelligence between ethnic minorities and Han in China. Richard Lynn, Helen Cheng.

The low Kyrgyz IQ of 85.7 is consistent with the IQ of 74.4 for Kyrgyzstan derived from 2009 PISA scores given by Lynn and Vanhanen (2012) and approximately the same as the IQ of 84.7 for Kazakhstan derived from 2009 PISA scores given byLynn and Vanhanen(2012) and closely similar to the IQ of 82.2 of Kazakhs in Kazakhstan obtained by Grigoriev and Lynn (2014).The low IQ of these peoples of central Asia confirms the work of Luria(1979) carried out in the early 1930s in which he concluded that their IQs are lower than those of European Russians.

Table 2
Ethnic | Loc | Pop | IQ | Ref
Hasake | Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region and the Aksai Kazakh Autonomous County in Gansu Province | 1420458 | 99.4 | Hashan et al. (2003)
Hasake | . | . | 91.4 | Zhao et al. (1989)
Hasake | . | . | 95.4 | .
Kyrgyz | Kizilsu in Kirghiz Autonomous Prefecture, Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region | 160823 | 85.6 | Ji et al. (1995)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ili_Kazakh_Autonomous_Prefecture

“Ili (also as Yili; Chinese: 伊犁哈萨克自治州; pinyin: Yīlí Hǎsàkè Zìzhìzhōu) is an autonomous prefecture for Kazak people (in China)”

3 samples Avg Kazak Chinese IQ 95.4, max sample IQ 99.4 🙂

This is the region where the Han Dynasty Chinese general Li Ling and his army due to Han imperial court intriques and betrayals, defected to the Xiongnu and he was award as the second in command “Left Wing King” in that region,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ling

As a young and high-profile defector, the Chanyu held generous regard of Li Ling, giving Li his daughter’s hand in marriage[3][4][5][6][7] and making Li Lord Youxiao (右校王), which was at the same level as Chanyu’s chief adviser (and a notorious Han traitor), Wei Lü (衛律).

The Yenisei Kirghiz Khagans claimed Li Ling as their ancestor.[8][9][7]

Some archaeologists have tentatively identified a unique Han-Dynasty architecture palace discovered in Russia’s Khakassia (southern Siberia) as the residence of Li Ling in the land of the Xiongnu.[7][10][11][12]

The way I think it works is East Asians are better adapted to the presence of alcohol, meaning somewhat counter-intuitively that they have a worse reaction to drinking. It is this worse reaction, perhaps best typified by alcohol flush, which makes them less likely to be alcoholics. But the whole idea is that it was a trait which was selected due to a longer exposure to alcohol than Northern Europeans. So, it is not worse in the same way as how Amerinds might react to alcohol.

From wiki:

Approximately 30 to 50% of East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans) show characteristic physiological responses to drinking alcohol that includes facial flushing, nausea, headaches and a fast heart rate

I could see why Southern China would be different than Europe, but in a way it seems strange that Japan and Korea are different. I wonder what explains it. These gradients of alcohol tolerance are really fascinating. I think I recall hearing that there is some gene that has a West to East gradient within Europe, but it was behind a paywall, so I never read the paper.

I agree, the stereotypical Asian respect for elders is something that they do right. Another thing, IMO, is the intact marriages.

Urban Chinese are really fascinating. It seems so bizarre that they can fall asleep in a noisy crowd. It is almost like they are better adapted for urban living, but, in that context, it is hard to explain their low TFR.

The miscegenation effect in the end overrides all Flynn effects.

Sometimes it goes down sometimes it goes up. Overall the assimilation of the various minority people’s has been a plus for the Russian Race and Nation. Example being Wildberries (Russian: ООО «Вайлдберриз») is the largest Russian online retailer. The company was founded in 2004 by Tatyana and Vladislav Bakalchuk. Mrs. Bakalchuk started the business in 2004 at age 28 in her Moscow apartment while on maternity leave from teaching. She realized how difficult it was for her and other young mothers to shop for clothes for themselves with a newborn at home. Her husband, Vladislav, an IT technician, soon joined her to help grow the business. In 2017 Wildberries had revenues for $1 billion,. In 2018 Wildberries works in 5 countries: Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia, with more than 20 000 employees.

Tatyana Vladimirovna Bakalchuk (Russian: Татьяна Владимировна Бакальчук; born on 16 October 1975) is a Russian entrepreneur of Korean ethnicity. Children 4.

Husband Vladislav Bakalchuk.

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Very unlikely. The chances of the British Race merging with Africans and Asians is far higher.

Ryan Giggs was born at St David’s Hospital in Canton, Cardiff, to Danny Wilson, a rugby union player for Cardiff RFC, and Lynne Giggs (now Lynne Johnson). Giggs is mixed race – his paternal grandfather is from Sierra Leone and has spoken of the racism he faced as a child. 😉

You never know 😂