Has Unz.com ever considered creating collapsible comment threads?

Ozzie, the Palestinian territories at the green line should be taken over by the UN until people like Netanyahu are just a memory. Then the Israeli supporters don’t get to hide behind Palestinian rockets for their colonial project and the Palestinians won’t receive brutal collective punishment (mass murder) because of morons with imprecise rocket launchers. It will be the UN’s responsibility to police Palestine and arrest violent jihadist. Israeli settlers are going to have to be removed forcibly, voluntarily, or they are going to become Palestinians. After a few generations hopefully they will assimilate. When the violent youth of today are old and no one cares what their racist minds think. As long as the Israeli right wing government does its magic there is hope that the UN will impose a two state solution if a two state solution is ever going to occur. That would be too easy of a solution and would nip Greater Israel in the bud. It is more fun I guess to argue about the tit for tat that goes on in that (should be) insignificant tiny little desert.

Also as of now Iran has no nuclear weapon’s program according to leaked Israeli intelligence. The goal is to keep it that way through a diplomatic deal. Israel, like Saudi Arabia want to use violent Sunni Jihadist (same population that kills Americans/Westerners) to kill off Iranians and their proxies in order to dominate the region. That is why Israel provides those Anti-American fighters with medical attention while its puppets and proxies in the US support overthrowing secular governments. The US after 9/11 should have dealt with Israel and the Gulf States instead of being their slave.

I suspect the problem is that Hamas is well Hamas so dealing with them can be easily put aside. Abbas is weak. The Palestinians aren’t a credible opponent. They can’t even defend or police themselves effectively. Palestinian violent resistance does them no favors. When they fire rockets it is basically begging to be killed. When they should get sympathy they end up as propaganda pieces for their own demise. Israel attacks UN schools, civilians die, and Israel just has to say the word “ROCKETS,” resulting in all criticism being blunted automatically. Israel has military superiority in the region for now so Israel doesn’t have an incentive to make peace, so they feel like they can take what they want. The US will block whatever comes Israel’s way through the UN. I can’t imagine their being peace without a strong UN military and administrative presence in Palestine to keep the peace. Even if they had a state it doesn’t mean they won’t be smacked around by Israel when some moron with a rocket launcher is firing into Israel. State status isn’t preventing other weak nations in the Muslim world from being attacked. Palestine would be the little guy against a steroid pumped gorilla at a bar.

I think Israel will slowly annex everything they want, but will it always have military superiority over its Arab neighbors? If Shia power is decimated then who will the Sunni jihadist and their non-American patrons go for next? Israel or the Arab monarchs? Palestinian suffering was a recruitment tool for Al Qaeda. Can Israel deal with this experienced and mass multinational mobile army of competing Sunni Jihadist? Some probably will go after Israel anyway but a peace deal would calm the Muslim world down when it comes to Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if someday a Philip of Arabia (Macedon) comes about promising revenge (of course Arab culture could change and it becomes a non-issue). That land has been conquered again and again throughout history by different people. There are countries that were Empires that are now ineffectual. Israel’s super power status in the region may not last forever so it may someday be made to regret its actions. Israel will always be known for taking all the Palestinian land it wanted in the Islamic world instead of making peace. This injustice may perpetually be a rallying cry for aspiring Muslim leaders like Osama Bin Laden.

A humane alternative would be to help those who do not want to die leave and find a better life somewhere else. They have people who want to leave living in Gaza but are having a hard time doing just that: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/trapped-palestinians-pressure Why not help them or at least give them an option between life and death? Shouldn’t Israel want them to leave or is this an experiment in collective learned helplessness?

It would be nice if the comments were nested with the main post shown but have show more and then a button to show the rest of the conversation if the person wanted to read the replies.

Hersh wrote before how Saudi Arabia was using Salafi jihadist to fight Shia with and the US was going along with it. If only those 28 pages were released then we would see what has been hidden from us regarding the war on terror. Hersh wrote this around 8 years ago:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

I think what Hersh said is plausible at least in parts and why would Al Qaeda keep the rouse that Osama is alive? They could continue it and say that wasn’t Osama but a stunt double that was killed if he was that useful of a mascot. In the end does it matter? The man is dead either way. Pakistanis would not want to be responsible for the killing of such a popular figure. It is plausible someone came in looking for money and gave Osama Bin Laden up. The real issue is the regional religious civil war that has been instigated to reshape the Middle East through violence.

I wonder how far the right wing of the Israel lobby/government will degenerate. Hating Muslims is good for business because wars, militarized policing, and spying are all enabled thanks to the irrational fear of Muslims in the US. Stories about victimized Muslims would run counter to the narrative that they are out to establish a global caliphate and install shariah law in the US. Muslims don’t get to play the role of victim just ask the Palestinians. Fear of Muslims is a great way to take money from the public and give it to the defense industry and remake the US into a police state. Geller isn’t any different in outlook than the typical Republican. I’d like to know how her obsession came about? I admire how she doesn’t coat her racism with respectability like the Neocons.

If it is a fairy tail then why would Hillhouse and later Hersh contradict it? What is the point? Also where is Al Qaeda and the Taliban’s eulogy of Osama if he died a decade ago? Is it supposedly one big scam to enrich war profiteers and overthrow remnants of classical liberalism in the US? Also how about his wives? Are they paid actresses? How do you account for his wives? Also he had children. Amal Fateh al-Sadah produced children for Osama Bin Laden after 2002. Did she have some samples stored in a freezer to later use whenever she felt the tick of her biological clock?

I think the war in Gaza and the election of a completely fascist government in Israel should have had the left howling and taking real action. There is no peace process. The Israeli emperor has no clothes. If the Palestinians got a state they would still get mowed periodically. No one seems to talk about that. Who is going to stop it? The UN is a joke. The lives of Palestinian children matter very little to it.

Did you see the story that said the TSA does a very poor job of catching stuff? Its a jobs program and a method in which to condition people to accept intimidation. The spying on personal communications is the same thing. Its voyeurism and a jobs program. It didn’t prevent the Boston bombing and the Russians told them about it. Then there is 9/11, and the story of the moment that claims CIA analyst in Alec Station were stepping out into operations which they knew nothing about and didn’t deal with the terrorist that they knew about which could have prevented 9/11. Its been about 14 years and we still don’t know what exactly happened.

China is expanding itself economically with mass industrial projects while the US is bleeding to death from militarism. Israel hides behind religion and hundreds of years of persecution. It gets goodies and protection and the Israel lobby supports the merchants of death and voyeurism. Libertarians assume that they can cut off all these addicts from their fix. The puritan work ethic which libertarians prescribe to doesn’t appeal to the left. The love of regulation and technocrats appeals to the left but not to the right. Pat Buchanan embodies everything libertarians and progressives hate about real conservatives. A new compelling vision is needed to overthrow militarism and provide the same intoxicating hit without the harm. I think change can only come from inventing a new and better narrative which knocks the current one off the radar. People need something else to focus on. Israel’s 15 minutes of fame needs to end. Why not compete with China by being productive too? The US wants to be #1 doesn’t it? Obama can give an inspiring speech on it.

I think the solution is to innovate and provide people the tools and an example to survive comfortably while starving the beast by making it less relevant. People will naturally gravitate to what is easiest and ignore the powers that be. That’s what people did on the internet with intellectual property. I think pursuing sustainable cities might be a way to do this. Re-invent society in order to remove Wall Street’s boot from our collective throats.

Suspicion? I thought it was obvious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

I’m not one to talk though. I’ve aided in the ruin of many of a comment thread. The moderator probably hates me.

Let me throw cold water on your enthusiasms. He thinks Netanyahu is the man and endorsed him for PM. He thinks Obama’s policies haven’t been very pro-Israel. He also lacks the creativity to see solutions to the Israel-Palestinian problem. Listen to the man in his own words: https://youtu.be/ueey6IJg6hE
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Usually someone whose that up Netanyahu’s behind is a sock puppet for the war/surveillance profiteers.

They need to keep the money flowing. This is a growing enterprise that requires more scams than the war on terror. A country that wanted to to maintain its unipolar moment wouldn’t waste defense money like the US does and would deal with the corruption and economic issues which plague it. It doesn’t matter if the military technology created works or not anymore. The important thing is that someone made some money! That’s the attitude the US political class has. These lucrative strategies aim to unites the people in the US, Europe, Japan, and South Korea under the US thumb (or is it the war profiteers and the rest of the world “free world+Israel+Arab tyrannies” to keep the American people under their thumb). It is hard sometimes to figure out who is using who more: the hitman or the client? The cost besides loss of life and economic loss is pushing the use of violence as a means to an end on a global scale. The last thing the US should want is for other countries that can be existential threats to the US to be more aggressive. I wonder if a nuclear war breaks out between the US, China, and Russia where will our political elites be? If they are pushing for confrontation then they must think that it won’t affect them. That this is some kind of large scale tribal war that is inconsequential like the ones band societies engage in.

There are careerist like Petraeus. Plenty are bought out and join the industrial/media side of the military where they use their stars to argue for more co$tly wars. I remember Chalmers Johnson in a talk (on youtube somewhere) mention that he was aware of senior military officers considering a military coup if the US went to war with Iran. If they did that he argued that “the Constitution would be a dead letter.”

Trump endorsed Netanyahu: https://youtu.be/tm5Je73bYOY
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I rest my case.

He didn’t have to go on Israel TV and pay his respects. Also he has taken Netanyahu’s side concerning the deal with Iran.

He wants to bomb oil fields and the US already tried that. I like his opposition to NAFTA. I find his illegal immigration positions are confusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=34&v=nH5SfF12MFg

He used to at least not want to kick people out who have been here for a two decades but now he is all up in arms about illegal immigration. Will the Real Donald please stand up! I wish the Paleoconservatives who put illegal immigration above all else would at least check him out on this before they join hands with the Neocons with Donald the Republican unity candidate.

It is about American national security and interest. I preferred my pre-9/11 world thank you very much. I want it back.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-us-general-we-pay-a-price-for-backing-israel/
(check the date on this one):
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/368971-2001-02-06-sunni-terrorist-threat-growing-senior.html

I really wish I had the power to give Israel and the Saudis to Russia and the China then they’d have a full house of nuts along with Iran. The Chinese can steal American technology on their own. They don’t need a middle man. They already created an improved version of the F-35. They are already very effective at killing their own people. I doubt Israel can teach them anything there. They are also interested in economic growth so why would they support the Clean Break strategy which is anti-growth?

Google is only good for Youtube. I use duckduckgo now for pretty much everything else: https://duckduckgo.com/about

It is like Google before Google began to suck.

NAFTA contributed to illegal immigration. American Agribusiness vs everyone else. Does anyone consider buying off the surveillance military police state industrial complex and use it for something useful like high speed rail across the country, desalination, and solar panels on buildings? The libertarian pipe dream died with Rand’s political ambitions. All the war profiteers and voyeurs need is another 9/11 to re-cement the gravy train their way. What would you have them do with all that tribute money borrowed from China? They are going to get it anyway until there is no more to get. It is either work with them and kiss their tail like Rand Paul and most of the other politicians, or be treated like Ron Paul. Would Lockheed Martin care if the same F-35 budget went to high speed rail or not if they ended up with the same profit? Do you think there is a carrot tasty enough to redirect them from this path, or are we going to be like Ron Paul and preach abstinence ignoring the fact that they are the profiteering equivalent of horny teenagers? Congress sees it as a jobs program. I think we need to stop emulating Israel and start emulating China when it comes to what is important (economic growth instead of militarism). Libertarians need to consider using psychology and slowly transform these parasites into prosperous businesses that do not require state socialism, asking these addicts to go cold turkey isn’t going to work.

The war on terror is easy pickings because the enemy isn’t going to doggy paddle across the Atlantic, and if they do get across to the other side the damage they could inflict is a scratch compared to what China and Russia would do. The Obama administration saved us from another war larger than Iraq that would have cost us trillions of dollars for nothing but human sacrifices for the Christian Zionist war god Netanyahu… I mean Yahweh and the Saudi King of Al Qaeda.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some war profiteers, political officials, and Saudis between smooches discussed how much fun they were going to have after 9/11. Could they not find Saudi Arabia on a map when Bush went after Al Qaeda and its supporters? Why isn’t Saudi Arabia leveled? They are the ones funding and spreading terrorism to all corners of the earth. The problem with the 9/11 truth movement is that they are more interested in proving through grainy videos how the building went down instead of demanding the 28 pages uncensored and then going from there. I wish someone would just wikileak it all. Surely someone has access to all the relevant material like Snowden did. They should make a copy of it, send it to wikileaks, take a trip to Russia, and let wikileaks protect them. Then the world can learn the truth behind 9/11.

I had a neighbor from Vietnam. This person mentioned that their relatives said that they have seen these POW. They were described as “thin.” Perhaps being a compromised person is why McCain is such a sellout on every issue. I think Donald Trump should use his vast resources and find out the truth. It can be a rallying cry, “bring our boys home!”

Bernie Sanders is sounding good to me so far. He understands that immigration is meant to drive down wages with trickle up economics. He is attacking the issue in a better way than Donald Trump (who seems to be the best candidate among the Republicans and the one with the most integrity). He lacks the baggage of someone on the right would have on this issue (of course they might dig something up on him). He has tied the issue solely on his opposition to the destructive impulses of neoliberalism. He also supports the Iran deal. I wonder how he will deal with our entrenched corporate welfare recipients that benefit from militarism. Surely he can find something better for them to do.

I agree. Also there is the Turkish lobby in the US and it has infiltrated the US government and political establishment according to Sibel Edmonds.

There is a lot of money to be made in militarism and ISIS is the perfect enemy. It can’t do serious damage to the US, its despicable, and it can be bombed perpetually.

The merchants of death want their war. It would be good for their businesses. I’d hate to be an ethnic group that is the public face of American militarism if the economy comes crashing down after the next president makes war with Iran. That is why AIPAC is hiding behind Citizens for a Nuclear Free Iran. They don’t want to reap the whirlwind. The war with Iran will go south and they don’t want to be blamed for it. The American public knows enough to buy into the propaganda but not enough to see through the violent children’s cartoon like arguments. Israel is the name of this violent cartoon show that sales wars not children’s toys. I saw a video asking people about the bill of rights and they were like “yeah its old, we should get rid of it.” Its why we are a Republic and not a democracy. Its a shame though that the ones who mostly do run things (the shadow government) have turned it into a casino and a hitman who works at his own expense. You’d think they could make enough from bombing all the other countries they are bombing. They greedily want to expand it to Tehran where there could be ground troops and those ground troops would need expensive resources brought to them by overpaid hucksters. Its a Halliburton, KBR and a Blackwater (whatever they call themselves now) dream. And Obama is trying to deny them their dream.

We all knew it was true but I like how Trump puts it all in perspective from the donor’s point of view. This goes to show we should ignore the puppets and look at who is pulling their strings. Donald Trump is by far the most honest Republican in the field this time around. I’m sure if he doesn’t win all of them will gladly take his money and do him favors once again if he asks.

Would Israel’s military officers support the decision to bomb Iran if Netanyahu is given the toys required to effectively bomb Iran? Is it the feasibility that they protested or was it the stupidity of it all? There is nothing sadder than a whipped Empire. The Iran deal is a great accomplishment and what will the rest of the world do if Israel starts a war with Iran over false pretenses? Will they come to the aid of a state that is becoming more fascist as time goes on?

Don’t forget the village idiot Christian Zionist Republican base!

If a person is too lazy to look up what something means on the internet (I remember having to use those huge big dictionaries) then are they really going to put the effort into understanding what is being expressed?

The last paragraph sums up the problem perfectly. The US engaged in war profiteering and used the cover of the war on terror for wars of choice. ISIS is the perfect enemy for forever war. It is a repugnant entity that really can’t do anything to us in the US. If the US actually wanted to end the threat of terrorism it would have went after these Sunni regimes that fund and support these groups.

Its hard to believe that the US wouldn’t know what Turkey’s true intentions was. Even if US policymakers weren’t enthusiastic about it it is hard to believe that they wouldn’t have realized that Turkey would take aim at the Kurds. I think its the Clean Break strategy and low risk war profiteering. Is the US going along with Turkey attacking the Kurds because it wanted access to Turkey’s air base? http://www.todayszaman.com/anasayfa_turkey-agrees-to-grant-us-access-to-i-ncirlik-air-base_394422.html

It looks like a trade to me.

I imagine the million Iraqi refugees in Syria when this all started collectively sighed in despair. If I were these people I’d go to Western Europe too where it is safe.

I think the major difference between the parties is rhetoric. They have to appeal to different demographics to gain power and do damage to this country. I always thought conservatism like progressivism was some kind of pragmatism that followed fads (one based on what one grew up with and another going for new shiny objects). Baby boomers are far more tolerant than their parents generation. They divorced with ease while their parents stayed together for life. They lived through the glory days of the United States. They have grown up inside the belly of an Empire and have been fed its propaganda all their lives. I think what we are seeing is a shift in values based on demographics. Jennifer Rubin is defending the new normal for conservatism. She seeks to maintain the existing order which is an Empire that caters to Israel.

ISIS is something to bomb. It is the perfect enemy for our war profiteers. It is weak and evil. The Sunni Arabs are going to reign in the terrorist as much as Israel is going to reign in their settlers. All the great powers including the US and Russia are too chicken to deal with these states as they deserve. I stopped taking things seriously at that part in the article. We might as well put our faith in god or ask Santa to make ISIS go away. If people in the Middle East value their lives they’d be heading to Western Europe. No one is going to drop bombs on them there.

ISIS is the creation of the Neocons when they fired the Iraqi government and put the Shia in power. It is the product of American intervention in Syria and Libya. It is the product of the Sunni Arab policy goal of destroying the Shia and their allies. ISIS provides a reason for the US Empire to loot the American treasury. Why would our war profiteers want to kill off this lucrative boogeyman?

On a serious note. How many dead Russian soldiers killed by NATO does it take to start World War III?

David Petraeus is their cheerleader in Syria: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/31/petraeus-use-al-qaeda-fighters-to-beat-isis.html?via=twitter_page

Qatar is trying to re-brand them as moderates by having Al Nusra dissociate itself from the parent organization: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/03/04/uk-mideast-crisis-nusra-insight-idUKKBN0M00G620150304

The US likes to keep the term “terrorist” vague so it can bomb whoever it pleases in the 3rd world.

At least the oligarchs are out in the open about their intentions so no one is under the impression that their vote matters. The only hope I have now concerning foreign policy is that the US military will not go for something completely stupid. If Seymour Hersh and Chalmers Johnson are right then the US military has its limits (war with Iran/supporting Salafi Jihadist). That will be the only check on the next president’s psychopathy. Hillary is unapologetic concerning the evil she has done. She might very well fulfill all of Saban’s desires if she is unopposed.

I think the focus on the towers has hurt the search for the truth concerning 9/11. It was an emotionally traumatizing event. The relationships and motivations of the US and its allies before and since are justification enough to realize we have been had. I don’t know who knew about the attacks nor if there were other methods employed to bring down the towers. No one does because the evidence was shipped to China right after the attacks without analysis. I don’t understand the fixation with the towers. The evidence which can be tested is gone. What we do have is the 28 pages. We know the CIA wanted to take Osama out before 9/11 and saw pre-9/11 radicalization of Muslims by Israel’s actions as a threat. We know Osama was not formerly charged with anything. You’d have to be a complete moron to not realize that the War on Terror is a fig leaf for the Empire of Chaos to do its thing which is to destroy.

One does not need to believe in the JFK conspiracy theory to know that there some really bad people out there with power they should not have. If JFK lived these people would still be there and they would still be bad. One does not need to have a highly emotional fixation on his death to be wary of what was going on at that time.

Hopefully the attacks intensify in such a way for Trump to sour on Israel. Trump is one in a billion. He isn’t the perfect punishment that the establishment deserves but he seems to be good enough. Hopefully he wins since Bernie the sheepdog who is more predictable isn’t going to win. It will be a very interesting 4-8 years with Trump in charge. If we must be ruled by oligarchs, we might as well be ruled by them directly and not through their craven puppets. Trump can’t be worse than the others and he creates his own narrative just like what someone said about our Empire. The establishment can judicially study each new reality that Trump creates on a whim and they get to keep their money. I think the Neocons will slither back to the Republican Party after the Trumpicane moves on through.

I agree with the article except when it called Israel a “friendly foreign state.” Its anything but that.

Ron Paul let that stuff be put under his name. Trump has shown the way by unapologetically hammering on points that Americans care about. It is in their interest to listen to Ron Unz and not establishment hacks. I wish Ron Unz luck!

“My number-one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran.” –Donald Trump
http://time.com/4267058/donald-trump-aipac-speech-transcript/

Why does it matter if she is a Zionist or not as long as she doesn’t want the US to fund it? Her wikipedia concerning Israel doesn’t look like someone who is a neoconservative to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilana_Mercer#On_Israel

Her response in her Wikipedia regarding the Gaza war shows that she sees Palestinians as human beings. Unless you guys have some quotes from her that show her inner Likud I’m calling this discussion racism.

Harvard has an axe to grind. I don’t see anything wrong with entertaining different points of view. The Harvard Crimson could use some openness to experience. A ivy league institution shouldn’t wallow in ignorance. Thy didn’t publish the response because it didn’t conform to their rigid beliefs and agenda. I think they have a ready made role for you and they didn’t know what to do when you didn’t conform to it besides deny you a platform to respond to their libel.

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, etc aren’t Jewish. The Neocons have a large responsibility for the war in Iraq. If she doesn’t agree with that then she is wrong and would have an uphill battle trying to deflect the solid proof that we have. I think in the quoted text that you provided that she is saying don’t just blame the Jews, blame everyone who supported that awful war. Interesting enough Sharon was more interested in Americans killing Iranians for him than Iraqis. Has she spoken for the special relationship? She is against the US funding Israel. The relationship can’t be that special to her if she doesn’t want Israel to continue getting its welfare check.

I agree she is denying the Neocon’s major role. I read it as “please don’t blame the Jews.” The Iraq war wasn’t just for Israel. It was the America Empire’s unipolar moment. Here is the article in question: http://www.wnd.com/2003/03/17817/

It was written right when the war started. Does she still hold those views? That was 13 years ago.

If she doesn’t say if she supports or opposes something then why should it matter to us unless she starts going Jennifer Rubin on us? She may very well want the US to save Israel at the UN and want the US to come to Israel’s rescue militarily. I don’t know. I would like more quotes from her and let them speak for themselves.

It could be considered that Iraq war 1 never ended. Anyway around Iraq War 2003 the neocons were talking up the American Empire.

Are we weak minded enough to let a trojan horse (if you are right) influence us? Aren’t we attracted to sites like this because we are interested in ideas instead of yellow journalism. We can open our mind up and not accept what we are told without question (at least I hope). Its self selecting. Its Ron Unz’s site. Is this all a nefarious plot to turn us into Likudbots? I’m not going to tar and feather someone for beliefs they may or may not have.

How about Alex Jones? He has 9/11 conspiracies and a Jewish wife or ex-wife: https://youtu.be/NmmaU5pL81g
Video Link(interview with Howard Stern). Is there something nefarious going on there besides attention seeking, schizophrenia, and making money?

Its bread and circuses for the masses in order to keep them from the important things like the levers of power.

I came to see if Philip Giraldi is talking Turkey since there is a coup underway. I’m curious to hear his opinion and analysis on the situation. It looks like the Turkey deep state has had enough of Erdogan. Why now?

I’m not voting for either of them. However, I think people should remember that Hillary is a psychopathic puppet. She has her oligarchs and their marching orders: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/hillarys-sheldon-adelson/

One can elect one oligarch, or the whore of Babylon owned by a cabal of oligarchs. I think more attention should be given to the ventriloquist and what they say.

I always thought Maher came off as kind of shady and attention seeking. The only political show like his that I liked was the McLaughlin Group.

The victors should be above murdering someone in cold blood without due process and in such a savage manner. He was captured there was no need to do that. It doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have been put to death at some point. It reflects poorly on them and their psychopathic queen who gloated about it.

That is a false dichotomy. There is another option which is to side with the United States. The US doesn’t have to pick sides. We can follow our founding fathers advice and stay out of other people’s wars. Israel is talking to Russians about the fake peace process. Let it be Putin’s problem.

Is there anyway to entice the Deep State to do something productive instead of war? Can they be paid a trillion dollar tribute annually to put solar panels on people’s houses in the US? How about space travel and resource gathering operations in space. I think that is the only way to deal with the current situation. We’ve tried elections. The people won’t go for someone who is pro-American. When they have the option the full force of the establishment comes down on that candidates head and they don’t get the resources that an establishment approved candidate receives.

I have just one thing to show:

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I rest my case.

I agree mostly to that. I still think that all avenues have not been explored. We have learned that protests, evangelism against the deep state, and democracy do not work very well. If they can’t be enticed to pursue other profitable sources of income then there is no solution besides bankruptcy and someone else’s deep state out competes them, possibly reducing them and their empire to radioactive rubble.

Its funny that people like Rubin and Stephens are all multiculturalism for the US and all nativist apartheid when it comes to Israel. There is a psychological term called projection which states you project onto others your own failings. I think it sums up these gatekeepers except the rabble they lost control over supports their vision of Israel too. The only reason to pay attention to Rubin is to get a good belly laugh from her nativist war propaganda for Israel. The comments section at the Washington Post is always better, with most of the people making fun of her instead of agreeing with her.

We will see. Trump is preferable to Hillary. If having assets scattered across the earth discourages him from bombing countries then I think that is a positive thing. We’ve already had several anti-American presidents that have been overly loyal to other nations, getting us into wars in Europe and the Middle East that we had no business in. They allowed for economic trade imbalances, economic inequality, and Madoff’s chump change doesn’t compare to the Wall Street bailout and war profiteering. How could Trump be any worse?

Trump knows his audience. He like any good businessman gave them what they want. He wants tribute paid to the American Empire which would go to the coffers of the deep state.

It sounds like he interjected conspiracy theory material into his political analysis on why Trump is this years Obama.

Hillary Clinton’s policy to provoke nuclear war with Russia in order to protect Al Qaeda has me seriously considering voting for Donald Trump. Donald Trump is an imperfect messenger but he does get the crowd going. We probably won’t have another oligarch who puts forth issues Americans care about. They will be like the Clintons, whores for hire.

I hope Donald doesn’t go the Sarah Palin route. His army of poor whites are easily lied to. Palin and Huckabee still have them fooled. They maintain Israel’s grievances. They watch Fox News and absorb the prejudices and propaganda fed to them through it. They don’t hate on the rich white people who trickle up the economics but Hispanics for taking the jobs. This suites the rich white people fine. Trump is concerned about Hispanics (people who came here partially because they were screwed by rich white people with NAFTA/interventions) and not the rich white people who control the situation. It is one of his faults like his love for Netanyahu. The ruling class doesn’t like them or him. The government continues to expect them to take up arms but so far they have failed to do so. The outcome would probably be a bloody crushed rebellion of people who will have few sympathetic supporters because of their religiosity and traditional conservatism. Its best to have an escape plan like Chalmers Johnson preached!

Well I guess we could say that about Hillary if we only talked about her wikileaks conversations/speeches where she acknowledges Saudi/Qatari terror, and those countries are the ones with Israel that she doesn’t want to bomb to smithereens. Trump says outlandish stuff for attention and who knows what he is going to do. She on the other hand is 100% serious. This ad fits her more than Goldwater:

What is the Goldwater Girl offering besides perpetual lying (public vs private position), globalism, a hyper Bush II foreign policy, and nuclear war?

It would be nice if the comment system had a nested menu to the side of sorts that allowed for users to thumb up or down conversations, comments, allowing them to go to posts of interest on the page. A feedback rep system would be nice too.

There is no steel from the twin towers to examine. It was immediately shipped to China after the collapse.
“Steel was the structural material of the buildings. As such it was the most important evidence to preserve in order to puzzle out how the structures held up to the impacts and fires, but then disintegrated into rubble. Since the collapse of steel-framed skyscrapers due to fires is completely unprecedented, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of the vast crime and unprecedented engineering failure? They recycled it!”
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

The government blew up the buildings angle shouldn’t be pursued. Clearly the deep state and Israel benefited from 9/11.

There are more documents out there to study if a leaker is inclined to release them to wikileaks: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/12/the-fbi-is-keeping-80-000-secret-files-on-the-saudis-and-9-11.html

The members of the Deep state could have very well known about the hijackers and their plot. The CIA knew two hijackers were in the US and withheld the data from the FBI. The same thing could be said about the Boston bombing. The Russians warned us. Mossad was shadowing hijackers. It could very well be that the bombers got support in high places and allowed to conduct their operation. I don’t know. I know as much about the machinery of such things as I do about the physics of why the buildings collapsed.

I think questioning 9/11 outside of documents like the 28 pages is a discrediting vocation for the one who does it. We have proof that the US backs Al Qaeda in the Middle East (Libya/Syria). We have proof that Saudis and Qataris finance it. We have proof that Israel provides Al Qaeda with healthcare. I don’t see why we need to have an evolution vs creationism debate on 9/11 when there is plenty of evidence that the threat was over-hyped and that there are Americans allied with the attackers now in very high places. I think people around Hillary are pragmatic and sociopathic like her. I think if 9/11 was an inside job it would have come from that cabal because they are Al Qaeda’s biggest supporters in Syria/Libya, believe might makes right, and are duplicitous enough to actually do this. Who is calling the shots? Obama and his generals don’t seem to be keen in helping Al Qaeda in Syria. Dempsey reportedly went behind his back to undermine the CIA and Al Qaeda in Syria. I have a hard time believing Obama is the orchestrator of all these machinations. There is ample proof that there are Americans at the very top and their underlings who have aided Al Qaeda and we are still at war with them. Perhaps we could talk a President Trump into it charging them with treason. They hate him. He hates them. The US needs a good political establishment enema. The thinktanks and institutions connected to foreign governments and the deep state should be cleansed of traitors.

I agree they are propagandized and they don’t have a frame of reference to understand where we are coming from. Besides appealing to their prejudices I don’t see how one could change their opinion besides providing them with documents made available to the public. I think the released DIA report on the West and the Gulf states supporting a Salafist Principality would be more easily to swallow than videos about 9/11 arguing that it was demolition. One thing the DIA report and Wikileaks material came from the beast itself.

I don’t think 9/11 was a coup. It was a new raison d’etre for our rulers. The coup happened a long time ago, during the cold war or before. The cold war ended and we had rogue states all over the place all of a sudden, and the US went to fight them to Pat Buchanan’s dismay.

Waco was a horrible crime.

We should get on twitter and ask Donald Trump if he will charge them for treason, and whatever else that would be feasible to punish their treachery. I hope he does it. We all need to encourage him on it.

Obama will go down as one of the best Presidents of the 21st century. The bar is set mighty low. We did get an Iran deal and he has been resistant to push for confrontation with Russia. Russia understand the US is out to make war profits. The US nurses adversaries, grows them in a garden, then spends a fortune to kill them. That is what it has done for at least the last 15 years. What is ISIS going to do to average Joe plutocrat? Nothing. The only thing average Joe plutocrat fears is a decrease in arms sells. One just has to look at imperial Japan to see what happens when the US gets serious. The reason Obama has changed war is because the enemy is so pathetic and weak they really can’t do anything to us. No American deaths no bad publicity. There is a threat of home grown terrorism via disaffected Muslims who seek to punish us for our foreign policy (but they don’t hit the oligarchy do they? No, average Joe plutocrat is safe.) and morons like Petraeus/Hillary Clinton who ally with Al Qaeda and their underlings who train and arm them. The US political establishment is allied with moderate head choppers when the US is at war with moderate head choppers. No one explains what a moderate head chopper is. We know they are with Al Qaeda and they can’t be separated from Al Qaeda. Perhaps there isn’t a nickels worth of difference between them and that is why. They all look and act the same. Do they hack in moderation? Yet no one serious argues that the US supporters of the head choppers should be tried for treason. They assume the American people are stupid and easily manipulated. The head choppers are a scary boogeyman that temporary replaced the Soviets and rogue states as the next big bad. Our greatest enemies are plutocrats who support terrorism and terrorist sponsoring states like Saudi Arabia and Qatar who help fund propaganda to keep the war machine humming with new targets to knock off. Obama let them down but all the noise indicates that Hillary Clinton will make a killing. She will be Queen of the head choppers!

He may despair (assuming that he is real and is anthropomorphic) but everything I said was pretty much true.

I expect a more thorough analysis from a man who belongs to Mensa.

I figured you were just looking for attention 😉

You gotta get that narcissistic supply from somewhere. Why here?

At least I can back up my arguments!
https://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-document-west-will-facilitate-rise-of-islamic-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

Its obvious you side with the head choppers over America. You must hate your country.

Please try to have me banned. If you can get Ron Unz or any official writer here to say that they want me gone I’ll gladly leave and never to return. I’ll blocked the website so I couldn’t accidentally comeback.

John McCain, John Kerry, Benedict Arnold served their country too what is your point? That doesn’t mean that they are good human beings who care about their country (they aren’t), or the people they betrayed. I know a guy who fought against the Salafist in Afghanistan. There is no love lost between American soldiers who have fought Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda. Petraeus has all those stars but he is still an Al Qaeda loving traitor. I got a letter from someone who served and his wife who he claims is serving in the military on the behalf of the Democrat Party. I wasn’t blown away by his service to Hillary Clinton. I also got something in the mail from the Republican Party ranting about the imaginary Iranian bomb and Radical Islamist ( they are too complicit to say Saudi Arabia).

First of all, I come from a military family that has fought for the US in every war starting with the American revolution. Second, you attacked me rambling with a bunch of angry nonsense and no arguments like an angry middle school kid. If you had left me alone we would not be arguing over the internet about your temper tantrums. Third, my original post was about the establishments well documented support for Al Qaeda (thanks to wikileaks/Seymour Hersh/DIA documents). I can only conclude since you won’t supply anything other than written verbal abuse that you are fond of Al Qaeda and its supporters foreign and domestic. I have relatives that have been injured fighting what became ISIS. Fourth, its been awhile since I’ve had someone mentally disordered wanting my attention and I can’t leave well enough alone sometimes. I can come to no other conclusion that you are either trolling, an extremely mentally disturbed individual in need of professional treatment, or both. If you stop replying then I will stop replying. Its that simple.

If you aren’t seeking my attention then why did you reply to me in the first place and every subsequent reply? Well, at least you have some insight into your condition even if you are denial about it, projecting it onto others, being generally unpleasant. You will not get anymore narcissistic supply from me 😉

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I’m glad he defeated her. We all have hope now for a better world.

It looks grim because Christie is handling the transition team. I have to say one thing. We are learning who all our enemies are over broad. Europe is dependent on Russian oil and it is using the US to bully Russia: “Moscow is seen as a direct threat to their interests—both in its aggressive efforts to reshape global alliances and for its power to damage Western Europe, which obtains almost 40 percent of its natural gas from Russia.”
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

They aren’t going to stop using and abusing the US until it is dead if they have their way. The Europeans should pursue alternative energy and not nuclear war. We the people need to take note of all the reasons and people who are pushing US foreign policy in dangerous directions foreign and domestic. This clearly shows that Europe is pushing for violent confrontation with Russia, trying to shakedown their oil supplier with the US military.

That would have been a very good question. He probably has some sophism on that topic to fool people with. Israel should have the same open immigration policy as ever other democracy.

I should have said Western democracy. Yes, I think Israel should have the same immigration policy that their agents in the US have created here. They should face the same situation. They deserve it for how they have interfered in America. They’ve bullied the US, stole from the US, almost bankrupted it through wars, and made the US a pariah in the Middle East (and at times the world). I also think any other country that has used the US deserve whatever karma comes their way. What is good for the goose is good for the gander:

That cartoon is true in parts of the US now.

Bully as they tried to prevent a deal with Iran. They have used AIPAC to control the US Congress with fear and money.

“No other country close to the United States continues to cross the line on espionage like the Israelis do”

As for stealing: “industrial espionage—folks coming over here on trade missions or with Israeli companies working in collaboration with American companies, [or] intelligence operatives being run directly by the government, which I assume meant out of the [Israeli] Embassy.”
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

Stole American nuclear secrets:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/no_author/israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal/

We will see if ISIS jumped the gun in creating a caliphate before the fall of the American Empire. Al Qaeda will probably be the big winner in this in achieving its goals of further bankrupting the US but they were going to win anyway with Hillary. Trump will be a great recruiting mechanism. By electing Trump over Hillary the American people have avoided war with Russia. The US can survive and rebuild after being bled to death by the mujahedin who just has to raise their flag to draw the US in. Is Trump going to continue Obama’s policy of droning these people and special forces, or is he going to use a large ground army like Bush in Iraq. Salafi jihadist are not an existential threat to the US. If the US Empire must die by doing something stupid then let it be by fighting the Salafi jihadist and not China or Russia.

The big question I have is what will become of the Iran deal. Another Iraq sized conflict would not make America great again.

The American people need to let Trump know that the only place Petraeus belongs is behind bars in Guantanamo Bay. He is a treasonous Al Qaeda supporter: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/31/petraeus-use-al-qaeda-fighters-to-beat-isis.html

Trump needs to stop digging through the trash and start looking around for competent men and women to hold positions in his government. Rand Paul is right. The Iraq war should be a litmus test. If they are too stupid to see that that was a mistake then they shouldn’t be anywhere near power.

War with Iran will give the media something new to talk about. It all depends on Netanyahu and his marching orders. War with Iran is preferable to nuclear war with Russia or China (who knows what Trump is going to do there).

Israel controls the US media and many foreign governments control the think tanks. The US has people who gain power and wealth from war. Foreign governments want the US to fight their fights like a hitman who works for free and prestige. Is there an EU hand behind the Russian propaganda in the US? European officials have come out from the woodwork to demand the US be hostile to Russia. It is hard to imagine a US president can ignore all these manipulative voices and be America First. They aren’t going to stop until the US Empire breathes its last breath doing a shakedown on one of their adversaries.

I’ll be shocked if the US does not go to war with Iran under Trump, but better war with Iran than war with Russia. The US Empire will have its war with somebody, so let it be with people who really can’t damage the US physically. I am curious to see if Trump deals with the Salafist supporters like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The only thing Trump’s ambassador appointment did was to make the official policy visible to all. There is no faux liberal nonsense out there that can hide the emperor’s nakedness now. BDS is the only way to peacefully end the Israeli occupation. America’s unconditional support for Israel has already done damage to American interest in the Middle East. I guess even the idiots among the Muslim population can see what the true policy of the US and Israel has always been concerning the Palestinians now thanks to Trump. The appointment is a stroke of genius if what I read is correct and Friedman is to the right of Netanyahu. It changed nothing but the perception. Congress will fight the appointment I bet in order to keep the lie alive.

I think Trump’s Zionism is genuine. It is an interesting thought that a Jewish cabal is trying to have a global scale version of the clean break strategy (like the Syria war) where all the world powers drain themselves and destroy themselves. I think even ethnic nationalist want to see themselves as a “good person” and supporting bringing Muslims into the US is a symptom of that narcissism (protect the false image). Trump harms the false image of the American Empire and that is the source of the wraith in my opinion.

War with Iran is better than war with Russia. The US imperial class demands an enemy and I don’t think imaginary space alien invasions will satiate their threat inflation narratives. How about a war against harmful organisms? They are everywhere. A battle that would last forever.

Obama didn’t completely use his wisdom to avoid war with Syria. The American people through Congress prevented him from going to war with Syria.

Trump is a Salafist terrorist supporter. He like the previous administrations is trying to control and nurture it. Yesterday it was in Afghan caves, today it controls Middle Eastern cities, and tomorrow a caliphate that controls the Sunni world with new acquired territory from places that had other religious groups that weren’t Salafist. I’m sure Trump will give them the training through tough love which they need to fulfill their dreams. Spare the drone, spoil the Radical Islamist.

I agree with much that is written. He has done what he has said to a degree. He has not appointed prominent neocons into office to the disappointment of the Washington Post. Its nice to see their dreams dashed. The wall has yet to be built so we will see if he keeps that one. He was always a big supporter of Netanyahu and he signaled repeatedly that he would be hostile to Iran. He is still those things but shockingly he criticized Israel on settlements.

Now for the Empire. The US like the Athenian (Empire) Delian League needs funding. Trump recognizes that the US cannot afford the Empire in its present setup so that is why he tells the Europeans to pay their share (which they haven’t been doing). He might feel more obligated to stick it to Russia if the Europeans stopped ripping the US off.

The most serious issue is that Trump has joined the Israeli-Saudi alliance against Iran and its allies. Israel wants the rest of the Middle East to be razed to the ground while Saudi Arabia wants all the Shia and their allies dead. Trump talks about “Radical Islam” but he is supporting it by supporting the Saudis and their policy in the Middle East. He hides this with promising to have concentration camps (or is it bases for Al Qaeda) in Syria for the refugees that he doesn’t want into the US. This sounds perfectly rational until one realizes that the safe zones in Syria are controlled by the Syrian government. However he says the terrorist sponsors (the Gulf States) are going to pay for these safe zones. He makes it sound like a good deal because someone else is going into debt for American imperial presence in Syria. He is continuing the policy of fighting the terrorist and supporting the terrorist sponsors. I wonder if the US is training the terrorist to fight a modern army by giving them experience through actual combat and supplying it with arms as the CIA has done. The Iraq war was a training ground for ISIS. I was hoping Trump would be hostile to the Gulf States for their support for terrorism. Why did he ally with them, letting them off the hook, and give Saudi Arabia arms to continue its massacre? That is a mystery to me. He continued the irrational war on (training) terror without a second thought. The Gulf States should have been in his ban.

Another question I have is is the Shia Crescent’s survival worth thermonuclear war for Russia and is its destruction worth thermonuclear war for Trump? Trump promised hostility towards Iran and he is fulfilling that promise. When/if the Iran war happens I wonder who is going to foot the bill and what will Russia do in response.

Donald Trump was always on Netanyahu’s side. I don’t see how anyone could see otherwise. He went on Israeli TV to campaign for the man. He actually has been more moderate towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than I expected he would be. He surprised me in a positive way by bringing up Israeli settlements. He has sounded like a typical American president begging Israel to behave and doing nothing to make Israel behave. Haley was a bad appointment but her reasoning on Israel is what I always expected from Trump.

Hillary offered us war with Russia with her no fly zone. How much would Obama’s signature foreign policy victory (the Iran deal) would have tied her hands I do not know. She showed a great deal of interest towards Russia. I do know that Trump always showed himself as a typical Republican on Iran. He campaigned for Netanyahu. The Israelis think he is on their settler’s state side. What I saw as the choice on November 8, 2016 was between near certain war with Russia and a likely war with Iran. I chose the latter. I was hoping he would stick it to the Saudis and Qataris. He supposed to make the Saudis pay us. They could start with the cost of the war on terror. Most of US will survive the coming bankruptcy if the very likely war with Iran happens. Nuclear weapons on the other hand are actually a serious threat compared to whatever Iran could conjure up.

After our Empire has grown hungry for a fight with a nuclear power in order to protect Al Qaeda and Neo-Nazis who overthrew their democratically elected government I’m starting to think maybe bankruptcy wouldn’t be such a bad thing for the US when the alternative is a nuclear holocaust. I don’t know if the US political class has a death wish or something but a mass nuclear suicide isn’t how I wanna leave this world.

I could imagine the grand bargain with the Russians would have them keep Crimea, end sanctions, calm things down in Europe, and the Israel-Saudi axis get their American benefactor into a quagmire in Iran on their behalf. Do the Israelis care about Russia beyond it getting in their way in the Middle East? I think the Neocons believe that there has to be an Empire because nature abhors a vacuum. They support Israel but they like to style themselves as the philosopher king’s (Sophist) of the American Empire. Trump has promised to be America first, but right behind Israel. They dislike the fact that Trump isn’t in everyone’s business and that he fired them from government. His pro-American nationalism (outside his Israeli-Saudi subservience) grates on them. They despise his more realist version of the American Empire. Where he recognizes spheres of influence the Neocons see land yet to be conquered and they don’t care about the consequences. What I don’t get is why isn’t Israel giving their agents in the US their marching orders to support Trump since President Trump may very well be the most pro-Israel president ever. For Bush it was for faith. For Trump its friendship and family.

Yes, there is no major difference between left and right besides some rhetoric. Do you have a source for Trump’s debt and his creditors?

Trump is going to and is supporting the Israeli-Saudi axis against Iran. Hopefully that doesn’t include nuclear war with Russia.

War with Iran is a very real possibility. I’ll take the Generals over the Neocons any and everyday of the week. I have no idea how much Iran backed the Shia militias in Iraq. There was so much propaganda and war drum beating over Iran’s nuclear program that it is hard to take serious anything said about Iran concerning the Iraq war. It is disturbing that they thought more fighting would solve the tensions caused by Saddam’s rule, de-Baathication, and differences between the citizens in the made up country called Iraq.

A war with Iran would be horrible but if the US cannot shed its imperial ways and stop doing stupid stuff then the economic impact of it is preferred to a nuclear holocaust with Russia or China. We may have only two choices. We can continue perpetual war forever (or economic collapse like Bin Laden wanted) against much weaker countries, or we can have a nuclear holocaust like Hillary Clinton wanted over something inconsequential to the US. Which do you prefer if you had to choose one? Those are the options.

The whole war on terror is a fraud. They never intended to fight it. Can you imagine fighting Nazi Germany by aiding it like the US does the Saudis? Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany would have loved the 21st century US. If WWII happened today the US would be attacking everyone but them while selling them arms to do evil against other people. 9/11 was our Pearl Harbor. Can you imagine if Pearl Harbor was treated the same as 9/11? About 16 years after and people are still trying to get justice against Saudi Arabia for 9/11. The war on terror was never meant to be won. It was meant to continue forever like they said. Its an incubator to test and develop new technologies like drones. The Israelis have the Palestinians to test weapons on. The US has unpopular spots in the Muslim world to do the same. If Japan and Germany after being defeated were treated like Iraq they would be a mess right now. If the US was serious there would be a “Wahabbist Directive” forced on the region where everything bad about Wahabbism would be removed.

I agree the US needs to be hospitalized for its DSM IV cluster B disorders and suicidal tendencies. What if Trump actually shows he has good sense and a spine? His rule is not permanent. He can’t cut a deal because the deep state won’t go along with it. The most he has is 8 years as ruler. War is a racket and these industries tied to it aren’t going to want the US to change policy. One solution is to pay them to do something useful. Space mining or something but its less fun and glamorous for these psychopaths.

I’d rather Iran be America’s kaishakunin than a nuclear power. At least the Iranians don’t have nukes. The problem is though that after death the Neocons can still terrorize the world with nuclear weapons. Why wouldn’t they use nuclear weapons as leverage? They aren’t much different than Kim Jong Un. They are adept at lying, its their Sophist Straussian heritage at work. The Sophist argue “might makes right” and America’s nuclear arsenal is very mighty indeed. In the end the nuclear powers may have to put the undead US out of its misery in a nuclear kaishakunin which I fear the most.

I hope someday a raspberry pi like smartphone phone can be made so that people can have total control of the operating system. The cellular phone companies have put all their users at risk in the name of profits in their closed ecosystem. Linux is free but it has bugs which are fixed daily. If they don’t update Android then they like companies that profit from the internet of things, allowing mischief to occur regardless if Google or Amazon put CIA backdoors in their products. If you aren’t using Snowden approved Tails OS for your desktop and laptop then your information could very well end up in some government’s hands. It might be a good idea to take an old PC and turn it into a router because routers rarely get firmware updates and new vulnerabilities are found everyday in the Linux kernel. Its free and unlike Windows 10 you don’t get unwanted ads and forced updates nor telemetry that could possibly be sent to some government. KDE is better than Windows 10 desktop.

The losers in all of this are American IT companies. Death by Empire. Whose going to trust them? This is another black eye for them after the Snowden revelations. Its like the US government and these companies want to lose consumer confidence. Open source is the best option. At least people have the option of viewing the source of the programs they install and are free to fork it and alter it. The irony is that Android smartphones and enterprise Linux use SeLinux which was developed by the NSA but the code can be viewed and changed by anyone. Who knows what is on Android phones? Does anyone trust them? At&t already gives our information to the US government. Why wouldn’t they insert stuff into the Android operating system? Android products aren’t updated. All those hacks will work for years because of that. Google can’t do anything about it even if they wanted to.

The funny part is that about half the internet runs on Linux and 99% of the top super computers do too but vulnerabilities in all these consumer devices using outdated Linux kernels due to laziness or government agencies will bring down the internet. An internet attack for the Guinness Book of World Records. Then we won’t have to worry about government spying because the whole global communication system will be down because of large botnets or maybe just ours in a cyberattack. The US Government is stupid. Its using these hacked and unsecure operating systems too. Its a strange policy to eat your own but thats what it is doing. There shouldn’t be an industry for exploiting these security flaws in American products. How can they be that stupid? American IT products will be as popular as American cars. They will need a bailout which means less money for the CIA. I doubt those microphone enabled spy devices are feeding information directly to the CIA (but I’m sure that they are datamining in the cloud for patterns and the information is probably more useful to the police/FBI), but it shows how this stuff shatters consumer confidence in American products. Consumers need total control of the firmware of their devices is the take away from all of this and if they don’t then they can only assume that whoever does has the power to use the device anyway they wish.

I agree! They’ve done that already in regard to RSA.

The Linux kernels biggest problem is the vulnerabilities hiding in plain sight. That is why its a shame Wikileaks didn’t dump all the info on the Linux kernel. We are less safe because of that. They should at least report every vulnerability out in the open for it and the BSDs. A release would cause quite a fuss and that would be a good thing. The lack of transparency bothers me. It contradicts the open source spirit.

The Iraqi government would have to be more inclusive for there to be peace and there are powerful forces in the Middle East that want to ethnically cleanse Iran and its allies. This terrible regional war will continue. The more industrious civilians in the region will flee to Western Europe where they will not be droned and have a chance at a life. The citizens in the Middle East outside of the Gulf States allied with Israel only have death and suffering to look forward to.

Trump wasn’t a peace candidate, he was a better than Hillary candidate. He still is. He shot up one Syrian base, Hillary wanted to do them all!

Well, as long as war with Iran doesn’t include nuclear Russia I wouldn’t mind the US be emptied of its treasury while trying for regime change in Tehran if it led to the end of the American Empire. I don’t want it to happen but while facing a nuclear war with Russia, a war with Iran doesn’t seem so bad. In fact, I think it is desired if it would bankrupt the US before our psychopathic leaders get into a war with Russia or China. Its a shame Afghanistan was not the Empire’s grave. It was a perfect spot, nothing there but pedophiles and opium. Neither would be missed. The Shia Crescent may be the real grave of the American Empire. Anyone who values their lives in the Shia Crescent better start making their way to Western Europe now!

A war with Iran would be a safe way to bleed the US dry. American troops will die but our cities will not be nuked. Since there are no insiders willing to do a coup this is the best outcome.

Nice find

The idiocy does seem to point to David Petraeus. Michael Savage pointed to the generals surrounding Trump as well. People are attacking Kushner because he is Jewish and without proof its antisemitism. From the article:

“McMaster’s friends in the media, as part of a broader strategy to increase McMaster’s power, have claimed Jared Kushner and Bannon had a major falling out. In fact Kushner and Bannon are united in their opposition to McMaster’s plan.”

Well the article that I commented about said that it wasn’t Kushner but McMasters. It does benefit Israel. The problem is that I haven’t seen anything about Kushner’s positions. I’ve just seen stuff about his fighting with Bannon without any specifics. If this article is true he is being wrongly scapegoated.

I view antisemitism as blaming someone because of their religion rather than their positions. I’ve looked for Kushner’s position on the Syrian strike. Where is it? Also there appears to be an element in Israel that isn’t crazy like Diskin and Dagan. If only they’d arrange a coup in Israel.

“I think that the so-called “elites” in charge running the USA are infinitely arrogant, stupid, uneducated, incompetent and irresponsible.”

There is a term for that: psychopath

Syria is a playground for proxies in the region. The US is Israel and the Gulf State’s psychopathic hit man. Anyone who wants to live should head to Western Europe if they haven’t already. If war with Russia occurs I hope the Gulf States and Israel are bombarded with Russian nukes. I would consider it a grave injustice if there was life still in those states. It looks like “Zionism” is strong with me. Russia and China would be destroyed too in WWIII. Then there is the nuclear winter the rest of the world would suffer. A higher cost will be paid if the US goes out in a nuclear war than bankruptcy. Maybe Osama Bin Laden’s plan of bankrupting the US wasn’t such a bad idea after all (who knew the whole entire American Establishment was that psychopathic and sought thrills through war with Russia?) if it did lead the US into having a more humble foreign policy. The question is can the US be bankrupted and what does it do afterwards? Was Osama Bin Laden correct in his analysis that it would turn tail and run home and become isolationist while tending to its economic wounds? The Shia Crescent would make a fine quagmire and is preferable to nuclear war. Nuclear war would start in the Shia Crescent if it was to occur at the moment (besides one in North Korea). Iran is probably a goner either way but nuclear war would be far more destructive. The end result in a bankruptcy would be the Salafi Jihadist backed by the Gulf States would run around in the Shia Crescent with death squads taking territory for their caliphate while fighting the survivors. That appears to be the plan anyway. Its what is going on wherever the Salafi Jihadist take camp.

I guess a counter argument could be that we cay pray, protest and maybe these soulless monsters will stop being soulless monsters. A problem with these soulless monsters is that their brain does not register fear correctly:

Trump is the peace candidate. We were lucky to have him instead of Hillary. EXTREMELY LUCKY! Now Trump might be smart enough to not go after Iran. He seems to understand fear. He is not a psychopath like Hillary Clinton is. How about the rest of them? The Democrats are trying to get rid of one of their good representatives because she wants an investigation regarding the Syrian chemical attacks. They have this deep interest in provoking nuclear countries, pivoting into nuclear countries, getting in their business. Russia thinks the US is irrational and can’t be dealt with. There is no democratic solution to this and whoever thinks so is dreaming. Either way with democracy we have a choice between psychopath A or psychopath B. Who will win the election, a psychopath! Its not just the officials its the think tanks, its the media. The whole damn thing is one big psychopathic orgy of violence. They frame everything in such a way. I watched Dennis Kucinich talk reason while the interviewer kept on trying to frame the conversation around regime change. I don’t know why they chose to interview Kucinich when they really wanted someone on the left to come on and agree with them that the prospect of a lot of dead bodies is thrilling.

I’d like there be an alternative to war. Perhaps those senior officers Chalmers Johnson talked about are still around to stage a coup. Perhaps the Chinese can safely cash in their chips. Nuclear war is an unacceptable outcome. The American Establishment is now talking about small nuclear wars like there is such a thing. They completely left the reservation last year.

If people don’t like what I say then give me an alternative that doesn’t revolve around a nuclear holocaust, or failed appeals to humanity because the American Establishment no longer has the cognitive capacity to register anything that is recognizably human. Its unable to. They are physically unable to. Their brains are physically unable to register anything except blood lust. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

Trump understands the concept of a “nuclear holocaust” and the rest of the American Establishment does not. I consider that huge considering.

Trump advocated for Netanyahu. Of course he was on Israel side all along. Only the dimmest white nationalist thought otherwise. Israel does benefit but that doesn’t mean that the Sunni Arabs aren’t out to kill the Shia. Its not Israelis Assad is fighting on the ground in large numbers. Those are Muslims. Israel treats Al Qaeda’s boo boo’s when they get hurt while letting a Palestinian child die that doesn’t agree to be a snitch for medical treatment of a congenital birth defect.

You didn’t give an alternative. You are crazy but a nobody so there is no use to drag out your crazy like I’ve done in the past for public documentation purposes.

My apologies to the moderator! This is my last post on this I promise!

anonymous, go to the White House, ring the door bell, tell them what you told me and see how your alternative works out for you! Maybe you will wow them with your rhetorical skills and they all will say, “you know what this guy has a point!” Godspeed!

The US media should have learned something about the Iraq war, but it still hasn’t. It blindly supports every stupid foreign policy decision wrapped in humanitarian clothes while being unwilling to honestly tell the American people that its a proxy war where all the actors in it are evil. That no one knows for sure what happened because it wasn’t investigated. The media in Russia may be a tool of the Kremlin but the US media is the tool of the war profiteers. There is no way to get around that no matter how Rutenberg tries to frame it around what he thinks is the correct opinion.

Also VIPS had American intelligence contacts in the Middle East who said the Syrians hit something that had chemicals in it. Everyone has their anonymous intelligence sources. Assad isn’t going anywhere there could have been a proper investigation. The US media salivated at the bombing of Syria. The US media is the American Empire’s id. It tells it to do stupid stuff that is going to get it killed. The US media loves to play nuclear chicken with Russia. I suppose psychopaths need a lot of stimulation and what could be more stimulating than a risk of nuclear war.

If the US media was doing its job it would not just be after Trump’s relationship with Russia. It would be after the whole American establishments cozy relationship with Israel and Saudi Arabia. They’ve turned the US into a banana empire. Of course the US media is tied to weapons producers and Israel gets a welfare check to buy American arms and Saudi Arabia buys American arms. Also Israel no matter what it does is protected because of guilt (which will be its undoing because its bad behavior is not being checked). If Russia bought American arms I bet the US media would love Putin. The US media then would take it upon themselves to support Putin against his enemies.

Israel wants the Syrian war to go on forever. The Saudi and Iranian proxies aren’t saints. There are no good guys yet removing Assad is the preferred outcome for the US media. Its irrational unless you realize who its working for. Its not the American people. Its not even working to keep the US Empire in a position of strength. It demands obedience to the whims of the Empire’s global subjects and its domestic war industry. That is what this Russian crap was about Trump. Maybe they tried to interfere. People were going to vote the way they voted anyway because Trump struck an emotional cord with his larger than life personality and the Democrats conspired against the candidate that could have beaten him (Bernie) while making sure no one that could win would run for the Democrat nomination. Also the Israelis are right wing and they get away with stuff the Alt-right could never get away with in the US (and I hope wouldn’t want to engage in). What they do to the Palestinians is straight out of Nazi Germany before the holocaust (which is coming for the Palestinians). They loved Trump and voted for him. US media doesn’t make a big deal about this. Any reporter who did would risk losing their job.

The good thing about the US corporate media is that it is being put behind paywalls. I just use software to block these sites so I don’t even bother wasting my time by clicking and then having to click back. I get “the line” from sources not behind a paywall. Only an idiot would pay to be lied to on behalf of groups that do not have the US interest at heart. By being whores for war profiteers and their global allies the US media makes Russian government controlled media seem great in comparison. There is no reason why the US should be a whore for unsavory governments and organizations across the world. Its 20 trillion in debt and the US media uses verbal abuse and praise to manipulate the President into making war, while framing the war into simplistic and cartoonish terms. There are some that are extremely wealthy. The Europeans could handle their own security but manipulating the US to do it is easy because of the US media and easily malleable politicians.

How about the US media find some poor defenseless country and harp up a war and bleed the US Empire dry of its wealth in a fruitless quagmire and call it a day? Some of us do have a self preservation instinct and fighting Russia for the mess in Syria is stupid. If it was me I’d try to get the defense companies to focus on space and space mining. Whoever controls outer space will control humanity’s destiny. But go ahead bleed the US dry on these short sided money grabbing crusades so other countries can take over outer space instead.

, I agree! Its all on purpose. ISIS is the perfect enemy. Its weak and it replenishes itself. There are those like Petraeus and Daniel Pipes who want to strengthen the Salafi Jihadist. They find them useful.

The Shia and Sunnis have found something they hated more than Israel, autocrats, Russians, and Americans. Each other.

What if the US Empire was financially bankrupted? How would it behave afterwards? I think it will end with military overstretch and bankruptcy or nuclear war. One or the other. Its sad that all this suffering is a tribal war. On man’s way to civilization he forgot to leave that behind. Would the US behave after bankruptcy like the Soviets did after losing in Afghanistan or is the US going to be even more like a huge North Korea? Besides Israel there is the manipulations of other countries like the Europeans.

I agree Trump is very concerned about appearance and that makes him weak. He like the rest of the American Establishment is like Narcissus and in their pond the Empire is reflected back at them. They won’t let go of it.

I disagree that the American people vote against war. The American people have had plenty of chances. They’ve had chances to turn the world’s fortunes around plenty of times with Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and Ralph Nader. That pretty much covers the whole ideological spectrum except the neocons. The American people have consistently voted for war at least since 1992. They had these men who ran for president in order to save us all and the were consistently rejected by the electorate. Its not just the government. Its the 4th estate. The corporations. I’m now a pessimist. War will come and it will fail. The question is who will the Empire wage war against and who will survive the war?

Is Pauline Christianity legitimate? The problem with it has always been that it was built on a tribal story. A lot of good came from it. It was used to justify some bad things too. Its origins are not the classical world. That is probably why the alt-right has a fascination with modern pseudo-pagan religions. I think the real story is that the Ancient Greeks particularly the Epicureans have won the argument:
https://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/Stoic-Epic-comp.html – these ideas are older than Christianity.

The AngloZionist tribe is now considered what the Catholics considered the pagans were. The word paganus means hick. Pagan now means new age and Christian in the West means hick. The AngloZionist don’t even like them but require their obedience and support. Perhaps its only a matter of time before the Judeo-Christian fairy tail loses its political power and just becomes good literature. It has no hope especially with the transhumanist wonders about to bequeathed to the world. It can’t compete. They avoided the truth for about 2000 years and couldn’t develop a convincing response against Epicureanism. Genesis is the best they could muster against natural selection after thousands of years of knowing about it? Epikoros (Hebrew for heretic) in the end won! But the US Empire has an unhealthy appetite of playing chicken with nuclear powers and western Judeo-Christianity will not go peacefully into the night.

The time is quickly approaching where a military coup is a necessity. If not the Russians and Chinese need to arm the Shia Crescent to the teeth for a long (hopefully Empire ending) quagmire. Also they need to give nukes to Iran or use them themselves. Its an affront to humanity if Israel survives this coming needless war. The nukes used on Israel need to be salted bombs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salted_bomb

The world needs to get rid of Israel permanently.

The Renaissance was a result of Europe being reacquainted with classical knowledge on the dime of the Medici. Before that time there was a period called the Dark Age that was ruled by Christianity. The Christian Church was against knowledge at the time of the Renaissance. They went full ISIS with something called an inquisition. The Renaissance gave way to the Enlightenment and the present West. Also Protestantism is a result of the Medici. The Medici pope and the indulgence scam ticked off Martin Luther and started a religious schism.

There are Christians who contributed many great things to the world but much of it was a result of earlier European knowledge and thought which they had access to. Christianity would be a positive in the West if it could be detached from its crazed land hungry father and violently insane brother.

The Catholic Church is like the Church of Scientology. It runs a money making scam and calls it religion.

I didn’t know about the phone apps. They look nice. Does anyone trust Android phones? I was sad that the Ubuntu phone failed. I’d like smart phones to be more like PCs where new operating systems can be installed on them. Is “SEL-Debian,” Security Enhanced Linux? The NSA developed that. OpenBSD supposed to be real nice and encrypted. How about systemd? The good thing about open source is that the code is open but does anyone read it?

Also how can the CPU itself be used to spy on you?