The 65,000 per year doesn’t include H-1Bs with advanced degrees from the US, another 20,000 per year, or H-1Bs that work for universities or research labs, which there isn’t a cap. So although H-1B can cover many fields, the 65,000 per year is overwhelmingly software. If an H-1B applies for a green card in time before his/her visa expires, then yes, they can stay as long as the green card process is underway, which could take years, and there are hundreds of thousands of those people in the US. Many are my co-workers. So I do see many articles comparing 65,000 to the size of the US workforce in an attempt to mislead and minimize the impact of the H-1B visa. Adding a million technical workers into the software/IT industry, which itself only has several million technical workers at most nationwide, radically transformed and distorted the industry. And yes, that is a big reason, not the only one of course, for the lack of American women in software.

I work in Silicon Valley. Approx 75 percent of the technical staff is foreign born. Note that percentage includes older staff too, so younger staff is much more foreign born. The most common progression is either direct H-1B, or OPT (3 years) while applying for H-1B. The 65,000 number is new additions per year, not the total number of employees, and there are probably 1 million H-1B s in the software industry. So yes, it’s had an enormous impact on the software industry in the United States. Regarding gender ratios, my experience is a) most American women engineers who apply for jobs don’t have enough experience. Not stupid at all, btw. The issue with that is the people with no experience are being hired in India, where they are cheap (and the good ones not stupid at all either). The Indians spend a couple of years at large multinationals being seasoned in India, and when they apply here, because they can, due to H-1B, they are just more experienced than many locals. Inexperienced American men engineers still make it in to jobs due to obsessesiveness, i.e. spending all day on algorithmic puzzles til they get a job. And this behavior is different than most women I’ve seen. H-1B has absolutely harmed American women going into software.

Why is that? Their culture? Should Americans not demand full assimilation if they wish the benefits of living here?

I really think this needs to be broken down by field of study. And more distribution. To answer the more narrow question of which public schools offer value: my feeling (having attended several state schools) is most state schools are small, rigorous institutions of learning with 3 to 4 thousand students surrounded by 20,000+ people — strangely called fellow students and attending classes — that in former times would be factory workers or farmers. (And nothing wrong with that work!)

I propose a ‘Shrinkage Score’. (Ahem). If a university was composed of only its 3,000 finest students, what would its rankings be?

Since most good state schools have selective Honors programs this is a well known issue. Perhaps there is already a ranking out there somewhere.

I take a slightly different tact — the losers were never countercultural in the south. What they did have was a lot more time to think about losing and the war than the winning side. The Union was caught up in a frenetic economic and technological expansion after the Civil War that mainly bypassed the south. No time to look back forlornly.

One data point: Kentucky (my former home) and a former slave state never left the Union and gave more men to it than the south. You would never guess that by the number of Confederate versus Union monuments (9 to 1 ratio).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_monuments_in_Kentucky
http://www.leoweekly.com/2016/05/civil-war-monuments/

I’m not afraid of outsourcing for me or even not being able to find work. Perhaps I should but I’m not.

What I don’t see is a future generation of American software engineers being hired and I don’t shut up about that — ever.

And by ‘American’ there are people of Japanese and Chinese (and even Indian, btw) descent that have ancestors that have been in the US for generations.

Even they are not getting hired because they are American. I’m not pro-European or anti-Asian. What I am is pro-American and don’t really care if people think I’m a bigot because I think Americans should be hired at an American company in America. It’s that simple.

And yet you ignored my comments also and — I don’t know whether on purpose or not — mislead on the extent of something like H-1B (and don’t forget OPT!).

65K a year only applies to some H-1B’s, and H-1B’s can extend for 7 years. The total number of technical related H-1Bs approach 1 million in the US in an industry will only a couple of million employees.

And then young foreign engineers have OPT. 3 – 5 years. Those are granted at the rate of over 100,000 a year.

I have several hundred software engineers on my floor. Roughly less than 10% are American born.

So yes, Silicon Valley has been flooded.

Get pissy. Not all American will shut up when Indian bias is so damn obvious.

On a final note — the H-1Bs I work with are not terrible nor geniuses. Just average. Well, we have lots of average Americans here who can do their jobs.

My experience at two software companies in the Bay Area:

Company #1
Only overseas engineering presence — QA contractors in Vietnam.
A few months into my job the American vice president of engineering is replaced by an Indian who most likely came to the US on an H-1B.
QA contractors in Vietnam fired. QA contractors hired in Bangalore.
Permanent branch office of my company opened in Bangalore. The US-based software engineers are told this office will handle customer support and bug fixes.
The role of the branch office is minimized stateside but makes the papers in India and the office opening even had local politicians attend. The pictures show quite the party.
Within a few months core areas of development moved to India.
No planned hires in the US.
I left for another company.

Company #2
Only overseas presence — small QA office Bangalore.
A few months into my job the American vice president of engineering is replaced by an Indian who most likely came to the US on an H-1B.
Bangalore office greatly expanded for customer support and bug fixes.
Within a few months core areas of development moved to India.
Stateside hires continue. The ENTIRE allotment of new hires are Indian OPTs (a new hire visa good for FIVE years and NOT counted against the H-1B program numbers).
Still at the company because the projects I’m on increase my skill and look good on the resume.

Always variations of the same theme.

Of course someone has to get the ball rolling on the initial Indian hires.

Those individuals are always Americans. And they don’t give a shit about their countrymen unlike (it seems) their Indian counterparts.

I understand media bias but it’s sometimes depressing that the most basic fact checking isn’t done — globalism propagandists just have it far too easy.

One data point: the percentage of the US population that is foreign born will soon be its highest ever: if this is the case then shouldn’t everything be wonderful economically?

Just a couple of charts of median per capita growth over the past 40 years versus foreign born population increase could dispel the ‘immigration is always great’ nonsense.

I work in software in the Bay Area and most of my co-workers are foreign born. Lots of nice people but I swear there is the sense that they are doing the country a favor by coming here. Contra the popular perception that Americans who interact with immigrants tend to have a more favorable view of immigration, moving to California made me want to severely curtail illegal AND legal immigration for a couple of decades at least.

I think Kentucky in 1860 had 1,155,684 people (20-25% slave) and (without-West) Virginia at 1,219,63 (33% slave). The states that left after Fort Sumter were key but a completely hostile state south of the Ohio River would have screwed the union. Having a decently populated slave state fighting for the union also helped greatly in keeping other union slaves states in the fold.

So yes, Kentucky was absolutely essential to a union victory.

Why has it taken almost a decade for this amount of detail about his early life to come out in the mainstream media? Any other President would have had the media outing this woman during the 2008 Primary. We knew this level of info about Romney’s grade school shenanigans minutes after he won his first Primary.

Just watch the movie Falling Down from 1993 when Michael Douglas is stuck in South Central and tries to buy a can of soda from the Korean shop owner.

Thanks. Very informative. The % of math scores above 700 for Asians is quite stunning — no other groups come remotely close. I’m not Asian and don’t know anything about genetics, just very interesting data.

Are there any charts that show distribution of scores within an ethnic group? Am I reading this wrong that the 450 – 500 ethnic group scores are roughly equivalent to their percentage of test takers (but for the Asians)?

Percentage comparison within the same group across all scores would be very interesting.

At every point it appears the Asian (-American I hope) students are MUCH better based on percentage of test takers. But the white test takers seem only slightly better than average (which is probable).

Yeah, Henry Blodget has a bunch if milennial kids running the place, writing insanely lefty pieces in between Yelp!ing trendy restaurants and Ubering their way across Manhattan.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-not-to-overreact-to-violent-crime-spike-2016-9

Idiot kids writing articles like the link here. She even mentions that Chicago accounts for half of the increase. But as Steve so eloquently states, the people running Chicago have also been running the White House for the last 8 years.

Too bad Kurds have become a Zio tool under the promise theyll be given their own land…. They fell for those Zio lies and the rest is history so to say….

lol, do u believe the msm BS? Do u believe the Kennedy myth? Idiot.