RSSi also correctly predicted RUS units would probably go into ukraine, because they wouldn’t get a choice. they would be forced into it by the US. RUS military action was not optional. NATO missiles don’t go on their border, period.
do i get a pay raise?
the US has responded in exactly the manner expected if their real goal was always to surround and entrap Russia with missiles. it was the US, not Russia, which pulled out of INF. i predict the US now does everything it can to surround Russia with missiles everywhere. every country in the area is going into NATO if the US can get them in, and then the US will immediately deploy medium range solid rocket booster nuclear missiles. once the Pentagon gets around to building hypersonic missiles, as they’re a few years behind RUS and CHN, they will then put hypersonic missiles in all NATO countries near Russia, making the flight time to Moscow around 5 or 6 minutes.
that’s what this is about. that’s what this has always been about. foreign alien people who have captured the US State Department and their ancient blood feud against Russia and Russians. the 30 year expansion of NATO is about this, and nothing else. it’s about using the power and money of the US government to subjugate Russia and dominating biological Russian people and crushing them.
“There is no reliable number on anything.”
i’d say that’s normally good advice. but not really the case here. this is the first major war during the social media, cell phone, internet era, and it’s not that hard to get a general sense of what’s going on, by spending a few hours every day piecing together accounts from a few dozen sources.
UKR forces are mostly reduced to being an army at this point. they still have 1000 armor units in the battle, artillery, and hundreds of thousands of infantry. they have almost no aircraft left (might actually in fact have 0 helicopters now) and not enough jets to do any counterattacking. they effectively have no navy now (not that they had a big one to start). their soviet era AA units, which had been moderately effective, have mostly been destroyed. RUS is now starting in on destroying their oil infrastructure to take their fuel away, and destroying their railroads, so those daily US and NATO resupply missions will be getting harder and more dangerous.
ukraine has no domestic oil production. they have the same issue the Axis had in the 1940s. not much oil, while Russia produces 12 million barrels per day. you can only fight a modern war while the oil supply keeps flowing. they won’t have much gasoline or diesel soon. or jet fuel, not that that matters now. oil pipelines in, or oil deliveries on rail coming in, can also be cut or blown up with missiles, and will be, if RUS decides to.
this war would already be over, if NATO wasn’t dumping their entire inventory into UKR. UKR would have run out of ammunition weeks ago. we’re talking about a REALLY unusual situation here. with various NATO forces dumping several YEARS worth of their own missile and ammunition production into UKR units. an unsustainable situation. “Javelin missiles mean that tanks are obsolete!” maybe, if you can dump literally YEARS of missile production from several countries, into a 2 month battle, and equip every other INFANTRY guy with a \$100,000 missile. but you can’t do that normally. that’s a one shot deal. NATO put every javelin, AT-4, LAW, stinger, and other infantry missile they had into UKR. not sure they sent any carl gustav stuff though.
plenty of known, verifiable numbers in this post. known, pre-war numbers for military inventory and oil production, freely available on the internet, and so on. numbers, numbers, numbers, something this thread had very little of, because it’s not a serious thread.
“Are there any reliable numbers on Ukrainian losses so far?”
there’s no talk about that on this thread, because this isn’t a serious war thread.
“One keeps hearing about bad Russian losses, much of which seems fairly credible but not much about the proportionality.”
no, that’s just western media bias, who are totally, 100% in the tank on this thing for Washington DC and the US State Department. in their world, democrats never lie, cheat, or steal. and UKR units are never destroyed, and have unlimited fuel and ammunition,
for weeks on here there wasn’t even any talk about the actual numbers involved. but the actual numbers are, UKR had about 600,000 defenders, and russian leadership decided that about 200,000 attackers was sufficient to engage them and accomplish their objectives. whether they were correct, we’ll see.
normally this would be a huge advantage for the defenders. but that’s mostly not what’s happening here. UKR units are getting pulverized. if this wasn’t the case, we’d still be seeing those videos of RUS units being destroyed. but that slowed down to a trickle after the first 2 weeks. the reverse is the case – the zelensky government has now made it illegal for ukrainians to record and post internet videos of UKR units getting destroyed. which is mostly what’s happening. note i’m not saying there aren’t lots of videos of UKR units being destroyed every day. there are. just that it’s illegal for ukrainian citizens to post these, for propaganda reasons.
if a passenger train did get hit, it’s not hard to explain. RUS units are taking out the railroads now. this is something i wondered why they weren’t doing a month ago. but they’re getting around to it. and it’s not hard to believe that one of the missiles out of dozens launched at railroads has accidentally hit civilians and caused a bunch of collateral damage.
indeed, trying to mostly avoid this exact thing could explain why RUS units didn’t just blow up all the railroads in the first couple weeks. they were deliberately not doing that, to allow ukranians all the around the country to leave the area on trains.
so i’d say totally possible a train got blown up, but that’s a normal part of a big war. extremely low chance it was on purpose, very high chance it was just collateral damage. RUS is moving now to limit UKR ability to move units around the country, and US and NATO allies will continue to deliberately force the conflict to get worse by sending equipment into ukraine on railroads. so more of this stuff is likely. next they’ll be sneaking in equipment on trucks or disguised as aid shipments traveling on roads.
Steve’s position is obvious nonsense, and not worth commenting on, guys. save the analogies. something else is going on here with him.
i see twitter took care of the Scott Ritter situation by just making him disappear.
while the BBC runs top page articles on how the Russians struggle to find dissenting narratives...
i see twitter took care of the Scott Ritter situation by just making him disappear.
Not too surprising after his really great two hour interview with the Duran people a couple of days ago.
i see twitter took care of the Scott Ritter situation by just making him disappear.
“When ‘Sir’ and ‘Ma’am’ Miss the Mark”
just call them Dining People.
Birthing People, Dining People, Actor People.
and the award for best Actor Person goes to…
can’t wait until this spreads to the military.
Xir, yes Xir.
i assume UKR forces just killed known russian sympathizers or even random ukranian citizens. they’ve done it for years in lots of cities, what’s a few more. they’ve been deliberately shooting and shelling and bombing bystanders by the thousands. that’s far more likely than the opposite. like in Syria, why would RUS forces do something on purpose that would draw international actors into the conflict, when they’re mostly accomplishing their goals under their current campaign? it would be counterproductive, and exactly the excuse UKR and US leadership is looking for to escalate the situation. UKR and US leadership are highly motivated to instigate a false flag. they’ve been trying for a month.
my sympathy for regular UKR troops is declining. i never cared about the UKR militia guys getting killed, but when this stuff happens in areas that regular troops control, come on, man. UKR leadership has to know and sign off on that kind of thing. no way it’s only the neo-nazis deliberately killing civilians. vitali klitschko was probably aware of this plan and approved it. pending further evidence, the klitschko brothers could be turning into pure scum right in front of our eyes. they are ultra nationalists for life, and a false flag makes total sense for their purposes.
steve has been writing about hate crime hoaxes for decades, but can’t figure out what probably happened with this one.
i assume UKR forces just killed known russian sympathizers or even random ukranian citizens. they’ve done it for years in lots of cities, what’s a few more. they’ve been deliberately shooting and shelling and bombing bystanders by the thousands.
my sympathy for regular UKR troops is declining. i never cared about the UKR militia guys getting killed, but when this stuff happens in areas that regular troops control, come on, man. UKR leadership has to know and sign off on that kind of thing. no way it’s only the neo-nazis deliberately killing civilians. vitali klitschko was probably aware of this plan and approved it.
wow. pending further evidence, the klitschko brothers could be turning into pure fucking scum right in front of our eyes.
i definitely don’t want to see Steve Sailer and Scott Ritter argue on the internet. can we avoid this please.
i left this thread weeks ago because the signal to noise ratio is now the lowest of all time on unz.com. there’s not much real military discussion here. even if there was, lots of posters have become too annoying to bother. but let’s avoid having old boomer Steve trying to discuss this stuff with a Marine Corps Intelligence Officer and UN Weapons Inspector.
Steve did quality work for 20 years and used to be one of the best writers on the internet. let’s not Bruce Willis him now that he’s in great decline and on his way to becoming irrelevant.
actually one of Steve’s worst and least important ‘scoops’ ever. pretty much everybody is aware that tons of corporations are against Republicans in general and Trump specifically, and had been operating that way for years before november 2020. dozens of companies were OPENLY against Trump as soon as he took office, posting to their official social media accounts that they were part of ‘the resistance’ literally for years since 2017. it’s not a surprise at all that one (probably most) of the pharmaceutical companies was also against him.
almost all the government health officials were clearly against Trump. Fauci, Redfield, Birx, and every CDC staffer, every one a career democrat. the majority of ‘his’ own government team were working against him. almost every election official in America was against Trump since democrats run the elections in every state. every democrat state AG was against Trump. the CEO of every internet company was against Trump and ran a non-stop internet news campaign against Trump for 4 years and in favor of whatever democrats were running against him. do we even need to add that all television networks save one were fanatically against him for 4 years like i’ve never seen.
in the face of all that it’s pretty much nonsense to think this single vaccine trial by itself would have swung the election to Trump. first of all, does Steve think the internet companies and television companies can’t sit on a story? they can sit on CRITICAL stories for YEARS. all they had to do here was sit on a story for less than a month. even if they didn’t sit on the story, democrats make sure via early voting that late breaking stories are less relevant to the vote. another reason to eliminate early voting.
Trump could have swung the election to Trump if he had run a better campaign though. and had spent 4 years continuously hammering on election security instead of 4 months. that would have been enough to overcome the obvious, blatant election fraud campaign nationwide.
... actually (sorry), that doesn't change the fact that it was a very nice job. I remember iSteve being all over this right at the time, if not just after the election. No, Steve Sailer wasn't going to change anything against the whole Establishment, so I just mean "important" in that I don't recall reading about this, in that detail, anywhere else on-line. How about you?
actually one of Steve’s worst and least important ‘scoops’ ever. pretty much everybody is aware that tons of corporations are against Republicans in general and Trump specifically, and had been operating that way for years...
France by itself could not even successfully invade Libya. we don’t have to discuss anything hypothetical, this is a real thing which actually happened in the real world. it’s forces have only declined somewhat since then. the telescoped autocannon is pretty cool though, if they can get it to work. it’s fun checking out what the France defense companies show at industry events.
meanwhile the country itself becomes a more and more africanized islamic nation every year and is turning into ‘France’. their space program, while definitely respectable, is in somewhat of a decline now, like the rest of the country. and with over 50 operational nuclear reactors, that’s a fairly scary future scenario. the EPR reactor is a total bust, leaving them basically unable to build any new nuclear reactors (a familiar situation for many previously capable nations which suddenly can’t get anything built anymore), although this is a good thing, since the future FranceArabia really shouldn’t be building anymore nuclear anything. building ITER in France, which might have made sense 20 years ago, now looks like not such a great plan. though i suppose it can be turned into a pork project to justify itself.
“I doubt that this is a top-down Biden Administration conspiracy”
yeah and i doubt CDC inflated covid-19 death numbers by ‘accident’. just a coding error apparently, they say, as they remove a hundred thousand deaths from the stats.
we’re pretty close to FBI no longer reporting crime statistics.
Maybe. I've never looked into the issue.
The general belief seems to be that Russia would quickly start losing a conventional war against the combined might of NATO, and then probably resort to nuclear means for “de-escalation”.
US force ability is definitely declining relatively every couple years as the US military becomes more woke. but there’s still enough trigger pullers and enough hardware build out to take out RUS in conventional conflict. defense budget is 700 billion a year and US can still count on maybe 1 million flyover state white guys to throw their lives away on the hostile empire that hates them.
less sure combined EU NATO forces prior to 2022 could do that. possible, with all of them fighting together. they’ve declined in ability to fight wars greatly, and are soft, under trained, and under staffed. UK and France ran out of bombs and missiles in 2 weeks against Libya. after RUS invaded UKR, they seem more interested in that 2% of GDP defense spending.
real question is whether US could deter CHI beyond 2030, and i’m thinking, that’s increasingly less likely. US Navy will be matched by then, CHI may have better missiles and certainly more missiles. combined RUS and CHI conventional forces probably superior to US forces by 2030s.
checking out West Point as a recruit but deciding not to become a US Army cadet was the single best decision i ever made in my life. ha. and i thought i had missed all the interesting stuff since i showed up in a West Point barracks a couple years after the Cold War ended. for reference, there were already neocon professors at West Point like Fred Kagan talking nonsense to the cadets when i was there in the early 90s.
Well, at least we (apparently) know that some of the hypersonics exist and they work. My impression is that just a few of them would be enough to sink an American carrier, which would have gigantic international geostrategic impact.
As others have said as well, I wouldn’t count on Russia having lots of those laying about. It seems more plausible to me that they have a few operational and can project some force with them, but would be completely unable to use them to any devastating advantage...If it came to a hot war with Russia, I would tend to believe that they would be playing hardball since Russian regime change would be such a Pentagon/ Neo-con wet dream.
my take is that the RUS military is set up as a deterrent force to discourage US aggression. this isn’t the Soviet Union days and RUS is aware of that. they have a lower budget and a smaller force, so they’ve arranged their units accordingly. they can’t compete in all areas, so they maximized funding, engineering, and defense buildout for the things that are best for stand off capability.
in short, that’s mainly missile technology, where RUS stuff is definitely better than the US inventory in certain areas. they have some improvements over US tech in other areas, but missiles is where they put most of their effort. RUS and CHI have deliberately put tons of effort into hypersonic missiles as a deterrent tech, while the Pentagon has back burnered that stuff, as it’s less important for their ‘conquering third world countries’ military agenda, where having carriers matters more. RUS also has better AA missiles than the US, but then again, they’ve had better AA missiles than the US since the S-75 in 1957. so this is not new.
RUS is behind the US in plenty of other techs and build outs, but that’s ok, because this is not about invading a dozen countries and maintaining 100 bases around the world. they don’t need a 300 ship surface fleet. having 60 nuclear submarines and those ballistic missile subs is a lot more important. having thousands of ICBM with MIRVs as a deterrent is much more important than having the same amount of armor as NATO. RUS has allowed their army units to lag behind their air force, submarine, and missile units, because the army is the least important branch here for deterrent.
RUS definitely DOES NOT have the overall conventional advantage over NATO. no way. they do have better missiles though, which is the way they hope to stave off aggression. RUS and CHI both aim to have missiles that can hit US carriers without being stopped. also by the way, without the complete random blind luck of Elon Musk and SpaceX, RUS would have much better space rockets than the US, and be able to get people into space while the US would be stuck on the ground. they now control the ISS, and the non-SpaceX US contractors are dependent on RUS rockets.
that’s against the combined forces of NATO though (mainly the US really). the last month, some people are starting to get the idea that RUS could not even take on Poland and other crazy ideas like this, when in reality, RUS would roll over France or Germany or the UK separately no problem. they’d sink their navy in a week, high altitude bomb and missile their cities into rubble, unleash their drones which they mostly aren’t using against UKR, deploy satellite war against western spy sats, and artillery and tank them into submission.
we could probably divide UKR forces into 3 groups. the patriotic UKR regular troops, who are defending their nation against invaders, even if most of them know the government is a bunch of US puppets who plunder the economy and don’t offer much ‘democracy’ or ‘freedom’ to them or the average citizen. i feel really bad for these guys.
second are the irregular militia guys who are a big part of the problem and one of the main reasons RUS went in. those guys are all gonna get killed, if they don’t desert first, and i don’t feel bad about that. their tactics, while understandable to this point, are not really getting the results they want of dragging NATO into the conflict, so at some point, hiding out in hospitals and nuclear reactors and daring RUS forces to return fire, is pure scum stuff. it’s not surprising that when surrounded, they start firing on civilians as one of their last actions.
third are the regime loyalists, a smaller group than the first two who are ultra nationalists like the Klitschko brothers. i always enjoyed watching their boxing matches, but i never liked their politics. i still don’t want to see Vitali and Wlad get killed, even though i think there’s a 40% chance of them getting killed in action. however, there’s no way this group of people wasn’t aware that the US was arming and training the irregular militia guys for years, deliberately because they wanted them to go kill russians. so how blameless can the regime loyalists be. it gets harder to feel bad about them getting KIA if they do.
every day, less and less videos out of UKR of destroyed RUS units. and when videos are shown, RUS units are further into UKR territory.
using war math, 1:1 kills would greatly favor the UKR defenders. but does anybody believe that? it has to be more like 3:1 for RUS. so if 10,000 russians, then around 30,000 ukrainians. i’m just using basic war math that is used in every modern era conflict. UKR can’t sustain loses like that for 2 months. RUS units on the other hand can go on like that for a while, and they’re being resupplied.
personally i don’t believe those RUS numbers. but heck, i’m not there in the action. maybe that’s close to accurate. but it would mean UKR forces are in big trouble. note that i hate this conflict, and seeing these european guys killing each other because neocons in the US State Department, with zero skin in the game, want this stuff to happen. after it’s over, thousands of slavs will be dead, but the neocons will slink away to book deals and sinecure jobs. how many jews will even die in combat here? like 12? certainly not a single one of the neocons in the US who provoked the situation for years.
i feel most bad for UKR civilians who strongly felt the need to join up, and then got blown away by RUS regular forces. i understand the 3 million people who left to avoid conscription. lots of them will come back later.
Scott Greer furiously posting right now about how America IS NOT GERMAN. when in fact it is somewhat German in population and character. and would be more so if not for Hart-Celler.
Trump definitely the last German President though, and one of the last Germans in NYC.
Germans and part Germans are, i think per current stats, the most Republican voting people in the country. maybe the Dutch and Scots next, 2 of the 3 core American groups. and while the English also mostly vote R, there is a large D voting faction who comprise the crazy left in New England.
That is a fair point. While the Iskander ballistic missile is good for ground penetration, presumably, the Kinzhal is better.
Hypersonic may be used for its bunker bursting potential as that was an underground arsenal
“Your explanation is as likely as mine. There is no way to analyze the cases unless additional information becomes available.”
we already know what the reason is. the US carrier running 24 hour a day missions in the Mediterranean.
it’s not for bunker busting. it’s not because their supply of other missiles is running low.
it’s because USS Harry S. Truman is in Ionian Sea doing dozens of flights a day. Russia is telling the US that we can sink that carrier, and all your carriers, any time we want, and there’s nothing you can do to stop it. so let’s keep your surface fleet out of this, thanks.
the pentagon is just wasting tax payer money while some admiral gets a boner flying ‘deterrent’ missions all day.
A weapon is only as good as its user. Russia has been hitting major supply depots in recent days since apparently the Ukrainians are not good at dispersing the arms they are getting and not good at preventing leaks where these arms are located either. The hypersonic missile fired yesterday hit an underground bunker with a gigantic cache of weaponry. So I'll press X to doubt about these drones - or any other weapon given - being a "gamechanger".Replies: @prime noticer, @Sean, @AP
The US is going to give Ukraine the tiny ‘switchblade’ drones, probably in huge numbers. These are dubious as a ‘defensive’ weapons, and are going to slaughter Russian soldiers in huge numbers.
“Russia has been hitting major supply depots in recent days since apparently the Ukrainians are not good at dispersing the arms they are getting and not good at preventing leaks where these arms are located either.”
all coming in from the west border i assume. so RUS will have to secure that border, which it looks like RUS and BEL are about to do. which makes it more likely RUS will just take all of UKR. not necessarily, but they’ll need to have the all the roads and railroads in and out secured. so why not at that point. or most UKR forces disabled, whichever comes first.
RUS forces have most of them isolated now, so UKR units can’t get resupplied, and it’s not like there are thousands of troops in every city in the west who could defend those cities – they’re all deployed to places which RUS has advanced on because that’s where the battle is. it makes no sense for UKR to have thousands of guys just standing around doing nothing in cities in the west, so by definition, they aren’t there. there are no reinforcements, there is no cavalry coming. which seems to be takeaway from Mariupol.
i don’t really see there being some years long guerilla conflict here. that’s possible, but there’s a low chance of that. US State Department is mostly not gonna get what it wants on that front.
Those cheaper options as Kalibr missile may be simply running out of stock atm ;)Replies: @sudden death, @prime noticer
Perhaps it was, but as you point out there are other (presumably cheaper) options for such a simple task.
“Those cheaper options as Kalibr missile may be simply running out of stock atm”
that’s possible. but i don’t think so in this case.
running out of bombs and missiles in 2 weeks is what the France and UK military does.
Not-The-President Biden lacks the mental capability to absorb current facts. His SJW Davos WEF puppet masters are emotion driven & uninterested in data. Therefore, it would be 100% pointless for Russia to waste a high cost munition trying to show something to the blind.
first hypersonic strike. ostensibly to hit a far away UKR target, but the main reason was to show the US they have it,
uh, they destroyed a munitions warehouse. not any moving target. they could have used other missiles to do this. in fact RUS started using ship launched cruise missiles a few days ago to hit other targets in west UKR.
the main reasons to use Kinzhal were to test it out in a real battle to make sure it works (although it’s possible these were tested already in Syria), and to show NATO that they have it.
they haven’t used Zircon and probably won’t.
I concur with this part of your commentary. While tested & functional, minor bugs are inevitable & opportunities to improve exist.
the main reasons to use Kinzhal were to test it out in a real battle to make sure it works
We know that a munitions facility was destroyed. We do not know that was the only target. Perhaps it was, but as you point out there are other (presumably cheaper) options for such a simple task.
uh, they destroyed a munitions warehouse. not any moving target. they could have used other missiles to do this
RUS forces held back most of their higher tech equipment since there was not much reason to use it against UKR units. but that ended today, when they deployed their first hypersonic strike. ostensibly to hit a far away UKR target, but the main reason was to show the US they have it, and they’re more advanced than anything in US inventory, that the US cannot stop these things, and let’s not escalate things please. stay out of this regional conflict.
other than declining a No Fly Zone, President Joe Brandon is doing everything possible to escalate the situation, which is how global wars start. contrary to what they say, the White House and the State Department don’t want the conflict to end. their actions show they want it to continue.
this was a medium range HS missile, so i’m thinking the ICBM sized ones are pretty capable indeed, and make US carrier groups into just being targets.
Not-The-President Biden lacks the mental capability to absorb current facts. His SJW Davos WEF puppet masters are emotion driven & uninterested in data. Therefore, it would be 100% pointless for Russia to waste a high cost munition trying to show something to the blind.
first hypersonic strike. ostensibly to hit a far away UKR target, but the main reason was to show the US they have it,
yes, because the entire global battle is over a certain small ethnic group’s demands that they be able to rule every white country completely, and for their narrow interests only.
they’re still mad they weren’t allowed to run the Soviet Union, and they hate Russians, who they view as prole whites blocking their natural right to rule over every white country and force it into globohomo. over the last 100 years they’ve migrated from europe to the US, which they now largely control instead, and use the US and NATO to attack their historical enemy, Russia. they’ve used the US military as their pawns to wage battles around the world for over 20 years.
and now they’re FURIOUS Russia won’t allow their ethnic buddies to rule over Ukraine and plunder the wealth from the Ukrainian people while killing ethnic Russians. they didn’t take complete control of the US State Department so that Putler could block their global domination plans. they control most of the US media, and have initiated an all out propaganda blitz like we’ve never seen.
Breaking down Ukraine – let’s start with Zelensky’s $35M mansion in Sunny Isles, FL built by Kolomoisky and Pinchuk. $1.3B in the bank!! pic.twitter.com/wnh7yNg2w8
— George Webb – Investigative Journalist (@RealGeorgeWebb1) March 1, 2022
Steve doesn’t want to know what the deal is with Ukraine. he’ll research anything else, just as long as he can stick with cartoon level analysis of why Russia bad, Putler bad.
“Zelenksy reminds me of the titular monster from The Thing. There is something really strange at his attempts at national mimicry, for personal survival.”
so, like a stereotypical nation wrecking jew, then? people have had them pegged correctly for a thousand years.
not that believable. in general anything they say is a lie.
i think it’s more like 1000 to 2000 troops, which is acceptable to RUS leadership and not that bad for a 1 month battle over the second largest area in europe. losing 4 low level generals is also acceptable and part of RUS military doctrine, not a sign that UKR forces are having great success. Russia forces generals to show up on the front lines once in a while to directly organize troops, boost morale, and force the generals to have skin in the game. they don’t sit at headquarters 2000 miles away watching drones blow up 15 civilians per missile strike while reading CRT books the way General Milli Vanilli does.
the media never talks about how UKR forces are getting clobbered. there’s never any numbers for them. none of them are getting killed, none of their equipment is destroyed.
more believable are the civilian death numbers, since there is high motivation for those numbers to be as high as possible. yet in a major war across a country with 44 million people, everybody, even the western sources, agrees that total civilians killed so far is under 2000, which is astounding, considering how when the US invades, they literally kill 100,000 people with weeks of bombing, missile strikes, and drones.
This. The narrative is so obviously tightly controlled. The Russian media talks specifics (this Ukrainian unit destroyed, etc.); while obviously also tightly controlled, the mention of specifics points to their having less need to lie (meaning, they're probably winning).Just my speculative heuristic again.Why isn't the western media embedding journos with the heroic units of the glorious, butt-kicking Ukrainian armed forces? I mean, how dangerous could it be, what with each invincible Ukrainian slaying Russians by the score...Why no reports about specific, butt-kicking Ukrainian units? Journals of their exploits?
the media never talks about how UKR forces are getting clobbered. there’s never any numbers for them. none of them are getting killed, none of their equipment is destroyed.
Steve lets neocon trolls and ethnonarcissts post at will, people who have been here for a couple years or less, but blocks my posts despite being a reasonable and positive contributor for over 20 years.
what am i supposed to assume is happening here?
this is a repeat of the current National Review situation, the Atlantic situation, and the Republican party writ large over the last 30 years. yet another place where previously, people who weren’t part of the ethnic group taking over Washington DC could talk about stuff without much interference, but which today has now largely been transferred over to annoying, low signal to noise establishment voices.
i’m surprised Steve allowed Buzz Mohawk to tell the straight up truth about these guys.
Yeah, the semitic supremacist contingent is running wild in this thread, frantically shilling for the Kolomoisky/ Zelensky regime (and their neocon fellow tribesmen in America), while a whole lot of reasonable responses to their crazed rants are stuck in moderation limbo. Sad!
Steve lets neocon trolls and ethnonarcissts post at will, people who have been here for a couple years or less, but blocks my posts despite being a reasonable and positive contributor for over 20 years.
Steve should stop writing about this stuff. he has no idea what he’s talking about, and deliberately doesn’t want to know either.
curiously, on lots of other topics, he volunteers up front that he doesn’t understand the topic very well, but here, he’s just confidently wrong over and over.
That is a rather uncharitable way to put it. Presumably, you are talking about contributing nothing of value to human advancement, in which case the real proportion may well be far lower than 1%; but otherwise, vast numbers of the 99% contribute love, warmth, kindness, caring, friendship, companionship, and often have interesting, attractive personalities despite the incoherence of their belief systems (which are indeed cringe when heard spoken out loud). That's very fortunate, since it is these qualities that contribute to most of the lasting happiness we experience over the course of our lives. Advances in technology and medicine are certainly very welcome, but their novelty quickly wears off and we take them for granted and, rightly or wrongly, they mean very little to us.
in that it shows 99% of people have NOTHING of value to contribute to anything, and we can see in real time that like 1% of the humans do all the important work and thinking.
i appreciate the sentiment, but that was a long way of saying that 99% of humans really only contribute by making more humans. that’s not nothing of course. but they shouldn’t have the platform that year 2022 internet gives their voices, either. the average person has nothing at all of value to say, and allowing millions of them to form these incorrect hive minds that start to influence the decision makers, is a dangerous situation. 20 million stupid people on social media think we should No Fly Zone ’em into oblivion and then bomb ’em back into the stone age. and that many people can’t be wrong, Mr Senator. fire up the B-52s.
part of the reason things are going so crazy is BECAUSE of the platforming of the average stupid person which the internet enables, which creates these hive mind groups, which in turn accelerate social and cultural changes and movements, so now entire countries lurch from weird social campaign to weird social campaign at light speed, because they can all meet, organize, and force project on the internet. things that would have taken years before social media, and decades before internet. in 2 years these morons turned from infectious disease experts, then into Ukraine and nuclear war experts. who knows what it will be 1 year from now and what idiotic thing they will move on to at the drop of a dime, after Russian forces have accomplished their goals in a conventional conflict in Ukraine.
Well, no, that was not what I was saying at all. Quite the opposite - that despite their manifest shortcomings, most of them contribute a great deal that is valuable.
but that was a long way of saying that 99% of humans really only contribute by making more humans
this is the dumb BS Steve wastes his time on now, instead of doing any serious investigation into the most important story in the world. the capture of the US government and US military by a hostile alien group, which has steadily destabilized the entire planet over the last 25 years. to the benefit of nobody, except maybe themselves and some defense contractors bank accounts. possibly. at least the defense contractors can be said for certain to have profited in some direct way.
Like it or not, but what is actually going to happen is that Russia is going to return its rightful demesnes and build a great space-faring Empire, in civilizational harmony with India and the Celestial Empire.
Meanwhile, Western Supremacists will stew in their cesspit of BLM and the 69 genders, papering over their failures with impotent Russophobia and Sinophobia, for at least the rest of this century, a fitting punishment for their innumerable sins.
space-faring Empire? Like a space empire with extraterrestrial colonies? I think you have to admit that this part at least comes close to trolling.
a great space-faring Empire
Your obituary is mis-focused.
Western Supremacists will stew in their cesspit of BLM and the 69 genders, papering over their failures with impotent Russophobia and Sinophobia, for at least the rest of this century, a fitting punishment for their innumerable sins.
first major war since the advent of the internet, so it’s interesting to see what a million different people think about it. wonder if this is what it was like 100 years ago and earlier, except nobody knew what was going on in a million other people’s heads as the conflict unfolded.
while not aimed at any of the posters here, i regret that i now have to hear the internal thought processes of so many mediocre, annoying media people and leftists. we were a thousand times better off before sports athletes and media types were able to broadcast their thoughts daily. the daily spew from their tiny brains is vastly better off contained within their skulls permanently.
it does present an interesting case study for understanding the history of technology, the human march out of ancient history from a zero technology world and into the modern world, and other Charles Murray type pursuits. in that it shows 99% of people have NOTHING of value to contribute to anything, and we can see in real time that like 1% of the humans do all the important work and thinking.
That is a rather uncharitable way to put it. Presumably, you are talking about contributing nothing of value to human advancement, in which case the real proportion may well be far lower than 1%; but otherwise, vast numbers of the 99% contribute love, warmth, kindness, caring, friendship, companionship, and often have interesting, attractive personalities despite the incoherence of their belief systems (which are indeed cringe when heard spoken out loud). That's very fortunate, since it is these qualities that contribute to most of the lasting happiness we experience over the course of our lives. Advances in technology and medicine are certainly very welcome, but their novelty quickly wears off and we take them for granted and, rightly or wrongly, they mean very little to us.
in that it shows 99% of people have NOTHING of value to contribute to anything, and we can see in real time that like 1% of the humans do all the important work and thinking.
Of course, too many cooks spoil the sauce, so I'm not sure it would be any good if more had the mental capabilities to be movers and shakers.
99% of people have NOTHING of value to contribute to anything, and we can see in real time that like 1% of the humans do all the important work and thinking.
guess i’ll be posting here for the duration, as Steve Sailer has completely lost it, and gone full boomer.
those small 1 or 2 person, piston engine propeller aircraft that you see flying around are still allowed to use leaded gasoline, and most of them do.
so whenever one of those is flying over your town, it’s dropping lead on you. the lead phase out for aviation gasoline is moving slowly.
Emil Kirkegaard’s recent article about this exact topic, using Sweden data:
https://kirkegaard.substack.com/p/how-bad-is-low-level-lead-poisoning?s=r
he calculates that the effect of peripheral lead exposure on the general population might have been at most 1 wechsler point, for the people most exposed, and decreasing in effect for the rural people. and the effect was decades ago, and not detectable anymore in young people.
so at worst, indirect lead exposure was a real but pretty minor thing. adding fluoride to the water supply on the other hand, made a detectable improvement in the general population’s teeth, with no real measurable downside.
“Misperceptions Arise from a Stereotype That the Present Is Far More Liberal Than the Past”
wrong, but for the wrong reasons. America in the past was actually MORE liberal than America today.
this is because ‘liberal democracy’ is not an end state, but a transitionary phase. America actually did used to be a liberal democracy is some ways. but it’s not now. ‘liberal democracy’ is a temporary state that leads from a well run country to a badly run country where leftists take control.
today America is some kind of leftist authoritarian state, and most of the people in positions of authority are NOT liberals and DO NOT support the ideals of ‘liberal democracy’. they openly censor, attack, and harass people they see as their enemies.
leftists were rooting for the Soviet Union, so obviously no. fun cold war movies were made about fighting the Soviets, that was about as far as any sustained movement went. we got a couple good decades worth of those. in the meantime, literally millions of communists in the US operated freely and did their march thru the institutions.
since the late 1950s, US culture starts to move towards whatever a critical mass of leftists want. most republican politicians are cowards who go out of their way to avoid confronting leftists. or greedy cowards who just want to make money. so there is no effective resistance left, since maybe the late 1980s. those Christian groups in the mid 80s trying to keep the country moral were the last organic, not political party associated thing anybody was ever doing to stop leftists. NRA was highly effective against leftists on their single issue, until about 10 years ago, when NRA effectively collapsed on their own, ending the last well organized resistance to the left on any issue.
Breaking down Ukraine – let’s start with Zelensky’s $35M mansion in Sunny Isles, FL built by Kolomoisky and Pinchuk. $1.3B in the bank!! pic.twitter.com/wnh7yNg2w8
— George Webb – Investigative Journalist (@RealGeorgeWebb1) March 1, 2022
this guy has been doing years of investigative reporting on Ukraine, their puppet government, and particularly on the biolabs. read thru several pages of his twitter. it’s eye opening stuff.
“An interesting perspective”
LOL no. sounds like nonsense bullshit twitter posts. some random guy posting BS on twitter specifically for the large anti-Russian western audience of boomers and leftists. not that different from the twitter posts of Kamil Galeev about why Russia has less STEM stuff, where he blathered nonsense for pages about Mexico avocado cartels. Anatoly explained it in 2 sentences a few years ago. Russia pays zero dollars to scientists. so people in Russia either go do science somewhere else or they go into some other industry. conversely, engineering pays there, and the defense industry is super important, so they have superior missile technology to America. they even had superior space rockets prior to SpaceX. all American rockets capable of getting into space now depend on Russian RD engines, unless they are Elon rockets. American CANNOT keep the ISS in orbit, they literally don’t have the technology, and it’s entirely up to Russia.
more to the point of the Gabuev post, you shouldn’t really compare places in europe which have been around for thousands of years, to recent creations like the 3 nations of north america. more specifically, the idea that the Russians don’t know or understand who the people in the very next country over are, despite all these people being around for literally longer than the US has existed, is pure internet nonsense. that’s so stupid, i would easily believe Alexander Gabuev is a paid US disinformation account if it wasn’t equally or more likely that it’s just some random moron posting stupid nonsense moron stuff on twitter, the biggest platform ever created in the history of the world for that exact purpose.
next up, the UK and France don’t really understand each other, and don’t have much experience with the other guys culture.
“The Russians have been prepared for this for years, though they did not control the timing of it.”
what i’m reading is that the Russians intercepted intel that Ukraine forces were about to make a major military operation into the eastern oblasts. this forced Russia to act quickly to head off that maneuver, probably before they wanted to go in, but it stopped the Ukranians dead cold.
this is why the majority of the Ukraine military is in the east, because they were massing for an operation. now they are mostly surrounded by Russian forces who are looking to cut them off from resupply and, hopefully, get most of them to surrender or desert. or the worse option, slowly cutting them down.
internet sources claim the Russians have evidence that the Ukraine operation was NATO organized and supplied. beats me, but i guess we’ll find out. US officials will deny it either way, like they are denying the bio labs. considering McCain and Graham were in Ukraine in 2016 helping to organize literal neonazi Azov units, i wouldn’t be surprised.
this propaganda that the Russian leadership didn’t think this operation thru seems to be really popular. totally wrong, but wow, do US leftists and boomers eat this stuff up.
on the ground reporting shows that they thought about this stuff for a long time and are carefully moving towards their objectives. like intercepting these biolabs which they had intelligence on. once again showing that America is very clearly the bad guy here, and Russia showed extreme restraint for years before finally acting.
i guess US military analysts are confused, because normally when America invades a country, they bomb and drone it indiscriminately for a month, killing a hundred thousand innocent people, taking out all the electricity, water, and internet, never halting operations to negotiate a surrender with enemy leadership, and leaving no way for civilians to escape. which is the exact opposite of what the Russian forces are doing.
Russian leadership was never going to try to do more than secure the borders of Ukraine.
people who think Russia might be in the beginning stages of trying to sweep across europe, don’t understand what’s going on, or are bad faith actors working in coordination with the same small ethnic group who are the cause of the entire situation.
something about 100 year old grudges for not being allowed into golf courses. Steve wrote about that for decades, but can’t figure out this one. hint – they’re still mad that Lev Bronstein wasn’t allowed to completely control the golf clubs over there 100 years ago. now they’re furious Zelenskyy won’t be allowed to control the golf clubs in Ukraine.
no resistance to GAE is allowed. Russia, as an open resistor of globohomo, has been targeted for subjugation. America is the bad guy here, and has been for over 20 years now. or should we say, “America”, since it’s no longer the same country and is under new management.
at this point i don’t think Steve really knows what’s going on anymore on several major issues. he’s slipped quite a bit from his blogging prime 15 years ago. hey, even Tom Brady had to retire eventually.
most relevant to the topic at hand, war in europe, is that Steve has deliberately blocked almost any discussion of the most important trend in the world. a certain ethnic group taking near complete control of the US government over the last 40 years and using it to wage covert and overt war around the globe, for it’s very narrow ethnic interests, and extremely against the interests of the historic american population. Steve’s usual impressive perception, insight, and excellent intellectual ability to connect seemingly unconnected dots, is somehow totally disabled or disengaged here.
the last 15 years of Russian military moves have been wholly defensive and in reaction to extreme aggression from the US State Department directly against it. a State Department almost completely captured by foreign aliens. which Steve doesn’t want to talk about, so he doesn’t understand what’s been going on behind the scenes for the last few decades and he can’t connect the dots about why Russia has been doing what it’s doing.
in HBD terms what’s interesting is that being a man counts MUCH more towards accumulated lifetime productivity than being even a very high intelligence woman. it’s the case in all fields of work, even science.
going strictly by the numbers you would have to guess that chinese women have had a big effect on the world in every field, but in reality they’ve had almost zero effect on anything. 500 million people with a mean IQ of 105 who do…virtually nothing important.
not exactly the intended point being made by Steve in this post, but that’s the more interesting observation, rather than huffy female grad students and their complaints about sexual harassment that is supposedly slowing down the important work they’re doing. 90% of them are not doing any important work and it wouldn’t matter if they had ‘ideal’ working conditions, however they themselves would define it. after 30 years of ‘work’ they’d still produce no result of any consequence.
Steve would advise the colonists to not break away from the Crown. even if they’re successful (obviously they won’t be, they’ll be defeated and hanged, and i’ll go back to making a profit trading goods or publishing the town newspaper because i’m smart and revolutionaries are stupid morons with muskets), as soon as the colonies become independent, they’ll immediately be invaded and taken over by the French or the Spanish or indians or somebody else. breaking away from Great Britain is the stupidest, dumbest course of action possible. only a total idiot would think that’s a good idea.
supposedly that’s the smart money talking, the adults in the room, the conventional wisdom that i have to hear every day from absolute losers like GOP leadership barnacles who are superglue ensconced in their positions.
Steve thinks that trying to escape the subjugation of the DC regime, which is controlled by hostile aliens, and seeks to CRUSH me and my people, would be one of the biggest mistakes possible. he prefers you vote moar harder, that should work.
Are you sure that they would not have been better off with the British ? Australia and Canada are pretty good places to live by US standards. It is difficult to say.
Steve would advise the colonists to not break away from the Crown. even if they’re successful (obviously they won’t be, they’ll be defeated and hanged, and i’ll go back to making a profit trading goods or publishing the town newspaper because i’m smart and revolutionaries are stupid morons with muskets),
this is an important essay because it perfectly embodies why we’ll never accomplish ANYTHING as long as boomers are still alive, and we won’t be able to make ANY progress until these people are all dead and gone. boomers are actively preventing younger generations from doing what needs to be done.
here’s YET ANOTHER boomer telling us to not do anything, please don’t react, allow hostile enemy forces to continue to take control of the country, at least until i’m dead and gone. i want to live out my last decade in the peace and comfort i acquired after being gifted the greatest country in the history of the world by the previous couple generations, then spending 1960 thru 2020 accumulating money and property and job positions, while doing NOTHING to prevent America from being lost to hungry, determined outsiders.
this boomer like most boomers wants you younger generations to continue to do nothing about it. they want younger generations to lose 2 years of their prime life living in a cave so that the boomers can eek out another few years and try to dodge a virus with a 99% survival rate. all the while also being priced out of property and locked out of job positions that boomers will hold until they’re 85, especially political positions that boomers will lock up until their dying breath, making sure only young leftists can rise to political power. young rightists are BLOCKED by career boomer politicians who don’t want anybody to screw up their last 15 years on earth and just want to make money while the country is turned into smoldering ruins.
Steve thinks his essay is being smart, but it actually shows how incredibly SELFISH boomers actually are, proving every negative point about them. this is exactly the kind of essay old wealthy Tories were writing before the revolution. you’re gonna screw everything up for me, you stupid young idiots.
fine dining restaurants have always done this. “Market Price”. not that it matters to the people who are already sitting at the table. but it was always a seafood thing. the last year i noticed a couple steakhouses doing this for steaks, which was never done in the past. don’t think that will be a trend though. think it’s more like, the beef costs are so fluid, they don’t want to bother making a new menu every 3 months. during the pandemic, most restaurants cut their menus and put out new smaller menus with half as many items and higher prices. they only want to do that every few years at most, not twice a year due to Bidenflation.
hidden internet prices will never be a thing. the numbers can be changed minute by minute for free by the retailer, and buyers will avoid retailers who don’t show their prices. the companies that continue to show prices and low prices will be where everybody goes. it would require RAM-industry type collusion for all big internet retailers to coordinate to all hide their prices all at the same time and OPEC type coercion to keep one of them from breaking.
i’m thinking of a humorous television sketch comedy where gas stations all say “Market Price! Who knows how much it costs! Find out how much that tank went for when you go to pay!” you’re into a national lawsuit and congress getting involved at some point if you follow this road to it’s logical conclusion of no businesses ever showing their prices and surprising all customers with random, made up sky high prices because ‘well there’s no law against this’. yeah, but there will be soon.
if they’re so great then how did they get totally taken by surprise at the nearly instantaneous collapse of the afghanistan regime they spent 20 YEARS closely monitoring directly and up close in person?
just a few weeks ago, russia immediately moved into kazakhstan when DC neocons tried to start up their usual playbook. i hardly think it was difficult to figure out that russia wasn’t going to allow US missiles to move into ukraine after DC neocon puppet guy in ukraine started talking about joining NATO. especially after russia moved 200,000 units right to the border.
US intelligence agencies are great at spying on americans, i admit that.
Well, not quite. The 1st generation Ford Taurus, for example, is not a "malaise" car and came out in '85. And malaise was mainly an American thing. There were plenty of good German and Japanese cars. Aside from union derived quality problems, the 1st generation of emissions controls really thru a whammy into Detroit big iron - you had 350 cu. in. (5.7 liter) engines making under 100 hp. But by the mid 80s they had begun to figure out the combination of fuel injection + catalytic converter that allowed them to produce low emissions motors with more power than ever.The real stinkers like the GM diesel engines also were phased out in 85. So I would put the end of the malaise era as 1985. Maybe there were a few stragglers - there were a few cars with carburetors that were sold until around 1990.Replies: @prime noticer
actual good vehicles didn’t show up again until the 90s.
LOL. we bought a 1986 taurus and it was a giant hunk of shit. it broke down the week we bought it, and the dealer had to come and tow it.
my dad, a huge buy american guy, vietnam veteran, and true blue boy scout type, vowed to never buy a foreign car his entire life. until that ford. that was the final vehicle in a long string of dogshit american cars that broke him. in 1991 he went out and bought a brand new honda accord, the best car we ever owned, and he never looked back. he hasn’t bought an american car since.
you’ll note today that there’s basically no american cars left on the road. they’ve surrendered that entire market to foreign cars, and have retreated to trucks and SUVs, which i admit, they do make good versions of those.
china completely has russia’s back. this is an emerging new world order. taiwan could certainly go in the next decade or so. russia deliberately waited until the chinese olympics were over as a favor to Xi before starting their invasion.
the biden administration plan to block russia from getting any high tech imports going forward and hurting them that way makes no sense, because most of that stuff is manufactured in…china and neighboring environs. america transferred the majority of their manufacturing to china years ago and not much high tech stuff is made in america anymore. that’s why we’re in a semiconductor crisis for the last 2 years.
russia has thought about this invasion for years and years. thinking thru all the scenarios and downsides. the bidens personally have never thought about this stuff, and are literal crooks who depended on the neocon puppet government in ukraine for sweet deals. then they tried to frame trump for even talking to them diplomatically in his capacity as head of state. the bidens are some of the the biggest scumbags in US history, and not that smart either. certainly rival the clintons as absolute dirtbags, but don’t rival them in brainpower that’s for sure.
nobody is interviewing Condoleezza Rice, a supposed expert on russia and of course exactly the kind of black body that modern america is looking to hear from these days.
probably because she actually knows jack shit about russia, is associated with GW bush, a dumb ass failure, and is currently busy being engaged by football people who want her as a token football advisor so she can tell them about football, which she also knows jack shit about.
to be fair, she was clearly smarter than this puppet person the Biden administration has as the US ambassador to the UN, who when it opens it’s mouth and talks, looks like a Jim Henson, Dark Crystal character or something, and has all the intelligence and mannerisms of one. “You will never escape, Gelfling. Trial by stone. The Biden administration has spoken.”
“Nearly everyone sentimentalizes the years they grew up in from about age 13 to 27.”
it depends a lot on when those times were. my dad’s parents grew up during the depression, and they knew it sucked. not a single, sentimental, ‘good old days’ story from them about the time period, and they even developed negative, self defense behaviors and mannerisms from the depression that they weren’t able to shake even in late life after making a good living working for westinghouse from the late 1940s and forward. when they were teenagers during the depression, they had to put cardboard in their shoes after they started to wear out. they always took the bread and any other free food off the table at restaurants after the meal, and only didn’t if the rest of the family stopped them.
my dad’s dad served on a submarine during WW2 and had good stories about the 40s – a world war wasn’t enough for him to say the decade sucked, but the late 20s thru the 30s sure sucked. he deliberately never owned a stock in his entire life, missing out on 50 years of stock market gains and instead keeping cash, gold and silver, and certificates of deposit in a big metal safe in a back room at his house. he also disliked the 1970s, and during the oil crisis, permanently switched to driving diesel mercedes tanks, and never owned a gasoline vehicle again. when he died in 1997, he still had a completely filled 55 gallon drum of diesel in his garage, ‘just in case’. they were able to afford a new mercedes E class every few years, but never shook their learned behaviors from the depression about hoarding food and fuel, and never owning stocks.
my mom’s dad was even older – born in 1904. he didn’t have any ‘good old days’ stories either. life was hard 100 years ago. he grew up in a house without toilets – they had an outhouse. he built his own house by hand, made his own wine in the basement, never wore a seatbelt, and put salt on everything. he used to shoot stuff with his shotgun on his property and probably thought ‘gun control’ meant a steady hand. he lived all the way to 1990 smoking and drinking every day, which he started doing before my dad’s parents were even born. he dipped tobacco until the year he died.
what does it all mean? 1950 and forward were MUCH better than 100 years ago.
“I feel like the 90’s was a lost decade”
it was actually one of the most productive times in US history, but again, mainly due to continuing improvement in electronics. semiconductors -> PCs, the internet, and cell phones, made it so that the difference between 1990 and 2000 was pretty big.
deindustrialization due to NAFTA didn’t start to hit hard until moore’s law had already seen a pentium internet computer in every house, in every office, in every college. WinTel, it was called. the synergy of microsoft and intel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintel
and of course, that entire process saw intel become a giant, high tech company based right in the US, utterly dominating semiconductors on the planet for decades. the natural successor to IBM. many other similar, smaller semiconductor and telecommunications companies based in the US also had their heyday in the 90s PC, internet, dot com explosion.
indeed, that stuff is the reason isteve exists, and why we’re having a discussion about the pros and cons of various decades on a website.
the 1970s oil crisis meant that all vehicles sucked A LOT starting around 1973 or 1974 until all the way to 1988 or 1989, when they finally started to not suck so much due mainly again to improvements in electronics, when the industry was making the transition from carburation to fuel injection (and away from drum brakes to disc ABS and airbags). car guys call this time period the malaise era and automobiles were garbage during this time, as reflected in auction prices today. the golden age of the 1960s thru the early 1970s ended completely and actual good vehicles didn’t show up again until the 90s.
people remember when ‘gas was 30 cents a gallon’ in 1955 as the golden age of highway driving and muscle cars, but that’s actually like 3 dollars a gallon inflation adjusted to 2022, and it was leaded gasoline too (one of Steve’s favorite topics to write about.) in 1999, unleaded 87 octane actually dipped below 1 dollar a gallon, which is like 2 dollars a gallon 2022 adjusted, so even gasoline was less expensive in 1999 than 1955. and cars were about 10 times safer while being 200% as powerful.
Well, not quite. The 1st generation Ford Taurus, for example, is not a "malaise" car and came out in '85. And malaise was mainly an American thing. There were plenty of good German and Japanese cars. Aside from union derived quality problems, the 1st generation of emissions controls really thru a whammy into Detroit big iron - you had 350 cu. in. (5.7 liter) engines making under 100 hp. But by the mid 80s they had begun to figure out the combination of fuel injection + catalytic converter that allowed them to produce low emissions motors with more power than ever.The real stinkers like the GM diesel engines also were phased out in 85. So I would put the end of the malaise era as 1985. Maybe there were a few stragglers - there were a few cars with carburetors that were sold until around 1990.Replies: @prime noticer
actual good vehicles didn’t show up again until the 90s.
America’s civilizational peak was around 1991, 1992. concur with the idea that 1999 was also a particularly good year.
those numbers are my version of the peak average goodness of US life for core Americans, calculated on an ‘all things considered’ basis. so depending on what’s more important to you, i definitely see the allure of other time periods, starting around 1950, and ending in 2001, which seems to be the unanimously agreed upon year where things definitely began to go downhill and from which we will never recover.
the left’s political ascendancy counteracts a lot of the idyllic good life to be had in the 1960s. there’s a lot of bad stuff happening in the 1970s (vietnam, going off the gold standard, wages suddenly flatline and drop behind inflation, crime begins it’s inexorable rise) that counteracts how great the music was. and so on. a lot of nostalgia for the good times of the 1950s seems to be predicated on that latter decades downside stuff, and recollections of the last time the core Americans were fully in control of everything and the money system, crime rate, culture, and so on, made complete sense. then you have to factor in tech level, which matters a lot to some people, not as much to others. without the electronics revolution of the late 70s, early 80s, the tech-demanding people are less interested in an analog life where the main electronics available are television and electric guitars.
what was happening with non-core non-Americans is irrelevant in my calculations, but seems to be the central concern of leftists. listening to them, africans in 2022 America are in the worst situation they’ve ever experienced in 200,000 years, when the exact opposite is the actual case.
the greatest athlete in the history of sports, tromping a solid field of future hall of famers in his final season at age 44. and absolutely ANNIHILATING complete pretenders to this title such as babe ruth.
aaron rodgers is a loser who will never win another superbowl. he’s definitely better than brady at one thing – he’s way better at not winning playoff games. i’ll concede that. he’s a regular season stat accumulator, like drew brees and philip rivers. rodgers is extremely lucky he never has to face the chiefs in playoff games, who would humiliate him regularly. he should think twice about leaving the packers and going to the AFC. it won’t go well for him. he should stay on the packers where he can have comfortable stat padding seasons, then score 10 points in home playoff games.
Sad, but true, especially considering that he is the most athletically gifted QB after Mahomes. But Brady steps up his game in the playoffs, and Rodgers does not.
aaron rodgers is a loser who will never win another superbowl.
brady is not just the best football player ever. he’s the best athlete is any sport ever. he is so good, it’s kind of hard to comprehend, even for people who are knowledgeable about sports. he’s preposterously, ludicrously better than the next best couple players.
do people realize brady lead the league in every passing stat this season? he was STILL the best quarterback THIS YEAR, at age 44. with half his receivers out. and should be league MVP. he will be the only player in history to leave the league when he was still the statistical leader. pat mahomes who? josh allen who? joe burrows who? justin herbert who? brady threw for more yards, more touchdowns, and less interceptions THAN ALL OF THEM. that’s not how this is supposed to work. the young guns are supposed to blow the really old guy off the field. instead brady george-foreman’d these guys.
brady threw for the most yards he’s ever thrown for, this year. in fact, manning only threw for that many yards one time ever, when he was 37. brady is doing it at 44 and, physically, could play another year easily. i guess mentally, he doesn’t want to do the grind thru another season anymore. dragging a loser team like the bucs to superbowls is hard and tiring. joining a team that’s already a playoff team, like manning did, and having that team drag him to a superbowl, is way less hard.
brady won 3 superbowls AFTER manning retired. that’s more superbowls than manning won total.
brady has more superbowl wins than any TEAM.
daily deaths were reported to be 1000 today, which if accurate, is mainly due to covid mutations which the RNA ‘vaccines’ caused. not only are these RNA ‘vaccines’ are not really vaccines at all, they are actually making things worse, not better.
in their current format at least. trying to vaccinate the entire population with these new, untested, first generation RNA treatments is causing antibody dependent enhancement. which the honest and really smart scientists and doctors suspected could happen.
we should have vaccinated all the old people and fat people with non-RNA vaccines and left it at that. instead, the midwit ‘intellectual’ class made things worse.
for the record i’m not against all vaccines in a general way or against new tech development.
productive european men out.
useless, rapey, unemployed, permanent problem muslims in.
conversely, european peoples ‘live here’ in many places, yet their spaces are being filled with random people from around the world.
so the basic principles are actually more like:
1) you need a growing population
2) you need to violently resist
then you can defend land.
a declining population, a passive population, or both, loses land.
why didn’t this work for american indians?
i think it’s more complicated than just ‘we live here’.
99% of native americans believed in native americans keeping full control of the Americas and europeans can go away. and they felt that way for 400 years.
so not really a convincing argument.
Afghans retained Afghanistan because in a civilizational battle that only went on for 20 years, there were literally twice as many of them the year the US pulled out as the year the US first invaded.
quickly growing, expanding populations often prevail. declining populations, like the US’s functional cohort, often fail.
high birth rate probably explains most of it. every guy was able to make 4 or 5 more guys in just the 20 years the US tried to occupy the place. the population was 20 million when Bush invaded and 38 million when Biden pulled out. it almost doubled during the occupation. killing a few thousand of these guys every year didn’t even put a dent in their military capacity. enemy force numbers were growing every year instead of depleting.
high birth rate probably explains most of it. every guy was able to make 4 or 5 more guys in just the 20 years the US tried to occupy the place. the population was 20 million when Bush invaded and 38 million when Biden pulled out. it almost doubled during the occupation. killing a few thousand of these guys every year didn’t even put a dent in their military capacity. enemy force numbers were growing every year instead of depleting.
contrast this with the natives in North America around 1500. they had been there for about 15,000 years and by that point they had made about 2 million of themselves. with disease and battles they were reduced to 1 million by 1600. over the next 300 years their population started to come back, but at the usual 1% growth rate of zero tech people, so they were never able to get back to the high numbers they had before. the British colonists were at 1:1 population with the natives by the early 1700s and 2:1 by the late 1700s. with their tech advantage and 3:1 population advantage by 1800 it was all over but the battles.
probably the fastest the globohomo flag ever came down.
if America is an idea, they sure have had a lot of trouble exporting it. maybe they just didn’t ship enough tons of magic dirt to Afghanistan.
Ha! Funny how the reports said that the ambassador made off with the precious flag but didn't say which one. Soon they'll be merged anyway...the rainbow 'American' flag which I'm sure everyone has seen.
probably the fastest the globohomo flag ever came down.
Steve blocks any “what to do about it” posts. he sees his blog as a guy on the deck of the Titanic, snark commenting minute by minute as the ship goes down. and that’s it. he’s not interested in doing anything about it or offering a platform for anybody who wants to save the ship to talk about it.
it’s his blog, he can do what he wants.
holy Fing F. the videos coming out of Afghanistan. total chaos. this makes Saigon look reasonable.
nothing will ever top the video of those people falling off the airplanes taking off.
easily the worst executed drawn down in US history. they didn’t even bother to destroy any of their equipment on the way out. they just let enemy forces capture everything.
Democrats. wow. apparently they even revealed secret agents in that white house briefing video by accidentally showing who they were and where they were on video conferences.
it’s crazy how wrong CIA was about the chances of total collapse and time scales here. that’s a big part of how everybody in this moron government got so surprised at what happened. too busy with Critical Race Theory and women with penises and telling us that white Christians are the biggest threat to democracy.
If only!
white Christians are the biggest threat to democracy
“This adventure must have set some kind of anti-ROI record.”
America has spent a lot more money than that trying to turn africans into productive first world citizens. the ongoing effort to ignore reality about stone age humans has been an order of magnitude more expensive.
the US lost 2500 troops in 20 years in Afghanistan. it loses that many productive citizens every year to useless african criminals. the US spent 2 trillion accomplishing nothing in Afghanistan. it has spent at least triple that over the last 60 years to negative ROI on africans, who still have the same net negative wealth and GDP effect they’ve always had, except now there are 45 million of them and they still hate America, and vote against the country every election. the net negative financial effect of africans is going up every year, not down.
having said, Afghanistan was an obvious, no brainer, complete and total loser bet from day 1. after a while the only justification was the yearly military budget, which the US military generals in charge wouldn’t give up easily (who gives up an 80 billion a year budget), and the real world training thousands of troops were getting in combat. needless to say none of that was worth even 1 American dying. a much more worrying result is that the US military now ignores Republican Presidents openly when they demand an end to a war, and will only obey them if ordered to start a war. now military brass will only end wars if Democrat Presidents tell them to.
I think it's arguable that a first world army is actually weakened if it spends its time killing-off bronze age goat herders. I suspect the lack of honour in those missions is a contributing factor to the PTSD numbers from Iraq and Afghanistan compared to PTSD attributable to soldiers in WW2.Replies: @Philip Owen
...and the real world training thousands of troops were getting in combat.
“Obama…probably was subject to less Jewish influence than most Presidents”
sometimes i wonder if Steve is losing it now that’s he’s getting older.
Obama was the MOST jewish influenced President in US history. his parents were jewish influenced communists. his dad is a literal Muslim from Kenya. he grew up in Hawaii, the least WASP, least european state in America. his Columbia college curriculum was 100% jewish communist instruction. he deliberately moved to Chicago to join the african and jewish political machine. all his associates were black power types or jewish communists. he went to a black power church and is NOT a protestant. his political career was directly financed and promoted by jewish communists.
THERE IS NOTHING WASP ABOUT THIS GUY AT ALL. jesus H christ. the idea that this guy is just a WASP with a tan is the most idiotic nonsense idea Steve has ever come up with.
the only SLIGHTLY anglo saxon thing about him is that his moron mother descended from high quality WASP people. but that’s it. she was a standard issue, i hate white people and America, leftist idiot from the 1960s. she deliberately threw away her heritage on purpose.
this is just as stupid as the conservatives who think MLK was one of the good guys. complete reality inversion that they’ve deluded themselves into. Obama is the total exact opposite of old stock WASP America – he represents the new, international, hostile alien people.
Colorado seems to be the number 1 destination right now for assholes leaving California.
CO will never vote for the Republican candidate ever again. it steadily moves to the left every year.
because Obama was re-elected.
not sure if this was a serious question since it is so blindingly obvious.
pretty sure i posted about this exact thing like 2 or 3 months ago and it was just ignored. though we all knew the population decline was coming, the acceleration of the decline once it got going is kinda alarming.
personally i’m almost fully detached now from what America used to be. didn’t celebrate 4th of July at all this year (interest has been declining steeply since Obama) and don’t consider America to exist anymore. this from a guy who went to West Point and the previous several generations of men all served.
it’s over. America 2.0 has nothing to do with us. detach emotionally and divest intellectually, and whatever you do, never, ever serve.
Not much choice. Those are some of the only decent jobs that are left.
it’s over. America 2.0 has nothing to do with us. detach emotionally and divest intellectually, and whatever you do, never, ever serve.
women playing basketball has never been popular. one of the left’s few failed campaigns has been to make big ugly clumsy ogre women playing hoops something that people want to watch. even worse, lots of the players are open homosexuals. by now leftists seem to have settled for WNBA simply existing on NBA money, and they’re about done with the promotional push. as far as i can tell, most of the national team players were homos married to other women.
conversely, without any sort of real promotional campaign at all and just jamming it into existing shows, UFC has created minor interest in women clumsily punching each other in the face and wrestling around on the ground awkwardly. basically the least interesting and most objectionable sport women could be engaged in, short of olympic lifting or throwing shotputs and discus.
note that UFC deliberately does not let the big ogre women into the show – this is very much on purpose. that would drive away most of the small interest they’ve been able to generate. no 200 pound giant fat wrestler or judo women who would easily thrash any of their star women are ever allowed to compete. this is important in creating stars in the first place. otherwise Rousey would have just been squashed by some ogre and that would have been that. no PPV or ticket sales then. before UFC yielded to women, other minor league promotions did stuff like the Gina Carano thing, where they kept her away from the ogre women for as long as possible, to generate interest for a few extra sales.
NBC coverage has been terrible. better video of the race.

i think they were talking about the UK team because the third guy ran so fast he put them in the lead heading into the last runner. that was Richard Kilty, a 60 meter guy who got stuck at 10.0 in the 100 for his career, but ran a great curve here for the UK.
the interesting question is whether China will avail this new avenue of soft cheating and begin sending trans people into the women’s sports in an all-out effort to win as many events as possible.
this insane transsexual stuff is diametrically opposed to what China stands for, but cheating to win is in their DNA.
intermediate position – China refrains from doing anything like that until other nations start doing it enough that it begins taking medals away from China women athletes, then China responds by going all in.
the potential level of pure madness here is off the charts. 100% male Olympic teams, half of them snipped.
Randy Barnes shotput world record was from 1990, which is over 30 years ago. also destroyed this year.

the discus and hammer records are even older than that, both from 1986. steroid records obviously.
what’s the lesson here? steroids can put you 20 to 30 years into the future of the power law of athletics. i have Ruth pegged as being about 20 to 30 years ahead of the field in baseball, so effectively his ability level was equivalent to a fully juiced star player in his prime, but without any drugs. Phelps is already being surpassed in some events, so effectively he was only 15 years ahead of the field, in a smaller sport.
uh, the world record was from 1992, so i’d say yeah, it’s actually pretty rare. that’s almost 30 years ago.

Japan missed the very first exchange. highly unlike them. and at the rare home Olympics too. i would hate to be those guys at the press conference.
i doubt the Americans would have won a medal here even if they were in the final. they’ve only ever run fast enough twice in Olympic history to get into the top 3 of those times. their 37.61 from all the way back in 2000 would have been fast enough for third.
the 400 was relatively slow, the 110 hurdles not that fast, and the 800 was VERY slow, so i’m less inclined to think the Tokyo track is particularly fast. i think the 400 hurdles times were simply legit. all time great runs.
chart i made for Olympic meet results, going back to 1984, the first time any team ran 37. mondo track surface and electronic timing started in 1968. needless to say, teams before that were way slower, regardless of the track material. this chart does not cover world championship times.
2020 37.50 italy 37.51 UK 37.70 canada 37.79 china 37.84 jamaica
2016 37.27 jamaica 37.60 japan 37.64 canada 37.90 china 37.98 UK
2012 36.84 jamaica
2008 none
2004 none
2000 37.61 US 37.90 brazil
1996 37.69 canada
1992 37.40 US 37.98 nigeria
1988 none
1984 37.83 US
as far as i can tell, the US team has only run faster one time ever at the Olympics than the “Italy” team ran today. the 1992 team ran a, probably juiced, 37.40, which is also the fastest they’ve ever run at the Olympic meet.
in fact, the 37.50 winning time here would have won every Olympic final except for 3, and 2 of those were juiced Jamaican teams. it would have taken second in every race where it didn’t win. drugs aside, the race itself is much faster now than even 20 years ago, which is what we would expect, as athletic performance mostly follows the power law. i think this is the first time that 5 teams ran 37 seconds in the same race.
i’m glad for Tortu and Patta, but that team was only half Italian. they better hope the American doesn’t test positive.
isn’t this because of the orthodox? might as well compare US mormons and amish to Hungary and Czechia.
isn’t the 1600 relay the premier event? that’s why it’s last.
“So, asking top American 100 meter men to practice together at the Olympics would have been like asking Sonny Liston, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, and George Foreman to team up for the good of the country.”
except the US had no problem getting the baton around in the 70s. or any time before the recent troubles. the problems started in the early 2000s, after society had elevated africans and especially african athletes to faultless magical beings who can do no wrong.
it’s clearly a US national team thing. no other team has so much trouble getting the baton around like that. Carl Lewis should probably chill though, since the 1988 team also missed the final.
that last guy got BLAZED on the home stretch. it looked like 4 runners passed him. not sure that team would have won a medal even if the relay exchanges were better, and that was with 3 of the 4 fastest Americans running in prelims. wow.
by the way, that was Filippo Tortu running last for Italy, zoomed right past the Americans. Tortu has beat Marcell Jacobs regularly for years. then suddenly, out of nowhere, Jacobs begins running under 10, sets the european record in the 100, and even wins the Olympic 100. hmmm…
China and Japan into the final, USA out. symbolic of the times.
LMAAAAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
17 years without a medal.
take the 4 fastest guys but make sure to never practice relay exchanges.
LOOOOOOOOOOLLLL
NBC coverage of the Olympics totally sucks. i hope somebody else gets the television contract at some point.
imagine paying billions to cover something that badly and reducing everybody’s interest in the games.
the most simple, instinctual sport is probably wrestling, where some version showed up in almost every culture, going back thousands of years. running against each other on a track is definitely not as common throughout the world or history, and is particularly associated with europeans of antiquity.
having said that, the premise is solid. the basic version of running is super low skill. one foot in front of the other. but, how much different is it really versus throwing or jumping? also 2 very basic, every man does this type of thing. there’s a pretty thin line between how basic running is versus throwing and jumping.
the totally visible and extremely evident difference in intelligence between the various humans of the world is more obvious than the difference in athletic ability though. other people can hang with west african athletes in their best sports, but no west africans are among the top 1000 people in any intellectual field. indeed, they can barely even keep anything resembling civilization going on their own. this fact is actually in part what engenders the crazy, pro african tilt of the entire western society now, as a make-up project for african shortcomings.
the photo of the guy in stockings (could also be compression leggings) is dated 6 14 ’98. before he was even born. what’s up with this.
Navy should not even replace this ship. they have too many ships already.
certainly they shouldn’t bother replacing a surface vessel. if they HAVE to spend the 2 billion, just build another sub.
“AI will never figure out anything that humans haven’t already figured out”
it already does this sometimes. an AI system figured out a better way to design the internal geometry of the aluminum for the ULA Vulcan rocket. the human designed pattern from the 90s used in the Atlas and Delta rockets have been replaced on the CNC machines with the new, AI designed version.
the Vulcan rocket is now stronger while at the same time using less material, so it’s also lighter, and less expensive to make.
not that surprising. however what i care a lot more about is if the AI systems can CORRECTLY read the radiology data, which this report says nothing about, but i assume other researchers are working on.
do i have multiple sclerosis or not? is there a cancerous growth on my spine or not?
despite having 8 years of training or whatever, radiologists vary WILDLY in their ability to correctly tell you what’s going on in the dozen scans they analyze every day. i’ve had radiologists who were TOTALLY wrong in their interpretation, when a second look by a better guy was like what? that guy has no idea what he’s talking about. no you don’t have MS. never go to that hospital again for radiology work.
i’ve had a dozen scans over the last 30 years. x-ray, MRI, CT. it took 7 (!) doctors to figure out for sure what was wrong with my shoulder. only guy number 6 was pretty sure what it was and he sent me to guy number 7 to confirm, the foremost expert in the country. the previous 5 guys were totally wrong even with MRI.
if AI systems can get to 99% accuracy after just a year of training on datasets…what is the point of radiologists.
by ‘who was the last woman to run this fast’ i was partly referencing Marion Jones, who most people forgot about by now, and who got started juicing with her husband, who was a shotput thrower. a tall, lanky sprinter who it seemed would have trouble accelerating that fast, yet effortlessly ran past the other women and won the 2000 event by 0.37 seconds.
she’s been flushed down the memory hole (try doing the usual google word frequency search on Marion Jones versus Flo Jo) probably because it was so embarrassing. but she needed drugs to run 10.7, which, pretty much any woman would need drugs to run at that speed. generally speaking in any sport adult women can top out at a performance equal to 15 year old boys, and if they start doing better than that, it’s because of drugs.
every Jamaican since 2008 has run 10.7 to win the event, so who was the last clean sprinter to win? Yulia Nesterenko?
“The semifinals were unbalanced.”
they changed the format from 4 rounds to 3 rounds starting in 2012. reducing the rounds down to 3 does make the semi final brutal.
but more important, Marcell Jacobs is a juiced to the eyeballs cheater, so anything is possible when a guy like that is running. he’s not a great 100 runner, and never ran under 10 seconds until this year. so that means his race is not as well developed as the other guys. the other guys are running a near perfect version of every phase of the race, every time they run the race. this guy isn’t. so if he nails his technique in any particular race, suddenly he’s much faster than usual due to the steroids boost.
“I say the 400 meter should be the gauge to determine the all around best runner. ”
400 is a good all around test of running ability. Fred Kerley can run the 400 in 43 seconds.
Karsten Warholm should run the 400 to see if he can dip under 44.
“What is it about 100 metres that gives you a huge boner?”
i think the idea is that flat track running is very low skill compared to almost any other sport and thus highly genetic – there definitely is training and technique to learn, but putting one foot in front of the other, it doesn’t get much more simple. it eliminates, many, environment or participation based factors. but not all of them.
having said that, Steve’s tedious obsesssion with this event and only this event does get tiring, and even offensive after a while. africans have trouble wining high jump…but they’re supposed to be the best jumpers and pale penis persons can’t jump. yet stale pale males usually win high jump, and won again this time. Steve definitely post once in a while about vertical jumping and it’s genetic basis – like flat track running, it can be improved with plyometrics but is largely genetic – yet he pretty much never talks about high jump.
west african track sprinters are totally dependent on european men figuring out ALL of the training methods, and of course, all the drugs they use. if africans had to come out of the savannah with no training, and race european men who invented literally all the training, they would get beat. then beat by a lot if the europeans used the drugs they invented. it’s the same scenario as sickle cell versus vaccines.
That's unfair to Steve. He rarely blogs about this. Much less than about baseball or golf, for example, which are of course not black dominated sports. He blogs about it like every 4 years around the Olympics, because it's topical and it's a popular event. And there's very little time commitment or attention investment to make to follow the 100m dash: you just watch a few 10 second races every 4 years and you're pretty much up to speed and can make some observations and comments about it.
having said that, Steve’s tedious obsesssion with this event and only this event does get tiring, and even offensive after a while.
Yes, I noticed the high jump gold this year was shared by a native Italian guy and a Qatari guy who seemed to be significantly East African or something genetically. They both, like most high jumpers, had similar physiques: very lean and lanky. I've noticed that high jumpers tend to have very lean physiques, more like middle and longer distance runners, than the shorter distance runners who are more muscular.
yet stale pale males usually win high jump, and won again this time. Steve definitely post once in a while about vertical jumping and it’s genetic basis – like flat track running, it can be improved with plyometrics but is largely genetic – yet he pretty much never talks about high jump.
Rather than thinking of running as a series of jumps – leaping off one foot and landing again on the other – runners should view their sport as a series of falls, aided by gravity, he says.
“We are falling forward, and our legs catch us,” he says. With each footfall a runner’s body actually rotates forward, pivoting on the foot in contact with the ground. “It is not a series of jumps, it is a series of rotations.”
yeah except there will never be any doubt that white people are real and exist when it’s time to attack them.
suddenly out of nowhere, most scientists even down in the Planck units, nuts and bolts of the universe research will discover that white people exist and are terrible when it’s struggle session time.
electrons may exist in some probability uncertainty field but the location and badness of any particular white person can be calculated instantly with infallible precision. a corollary to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, call it the Wokenberg Certainly principle.
the magic yam harvest was especially good this year in Jamaica, causing the women to turn in the least plausible results of all time. old women and literal mothers in their 30s getting faster (and getting braces), sweeping the medals, running 10.7 with ease into a negative wind, even 10.6 (who was the last woman to run this fast…oh right). and most preposterous – the third Jamaican came in 0.15 seconds ahead of the fourth place runner. what? in an Olympic final?
Steve likes to talk about the Ben Johnson, Carl Lewis era, but this was easily the most drugged up, steroided out final in the history of track and field. it would be an outrage, if women’s sports mattered, which they don’t.
Jamaican men, who have finally been cracked down on, didn’t even get to the final. good riddance to these mega users.
Marcell Jacobs is a mulatto from Texas. he is 26 but never ran under 10 seconds until this year. if he’s so fast, why did he run for Italy instead of America? this guy is an obvious juicer who avoided the US National team to go compete for one of his parent’s foreign countries, a ploy that many athletes are doing now.
Fred Kerley should be the real winner. he is now the best all-around sprinter ever. only the second guy to ever run 9, 19, and 43, and the fastest guy to do it. he is awesome. also i would guess, the only guy over 200 pounds who has ever ran any of these times.
Su Bingtian blew out his legs and back in the semi final trying to run as fast as humanly possible, though he did get an amazing time out it. he was exhausted by the final. 9.83 is the number 13 time ever. however if you take all the users who tested positive out of the all-time results, then this is the number 7 time ever. then again, China cheats regularly as well, so grain of salt here.
Rohan Browning’s 10.01 from prelims was the fastest anybody else not from west africa went.