RSSBut as always...no solution.Replies: @mastodon
Very nice recap and forecast. Thanks.
while we still consider todays money as real there is no solution…. it aint there aint….. As a species we are attempting to control a real system (the planet upon which we live….) with an imaginary system,( money, that has no connection whatsoever to the real system except human belief……………) Then you look at who benefits…
This will also end in tears
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Well done dot connection.
I see it this way.
-Club of Rome, group of wealthy parties finance the best minds they can find to have a look at the whole schmeer, where are we heading….. the results is the World 3 (the computer program) and the book “Limits to growth”. Conclusions being, there are some real hard limits to growth on a finite planet with a whole raft of issues coming to a head about 2020, the big one is a net energy cliff (86% of primary energy is fossil fuels, 96% of transportation energy is crude oil…. think no diesel/petrol…) along with pollution, ecological collapse (6th great extinction anyone??) and of course climate change. The owners of this knowledge think….”okay we got 50 yrs to grab whatever we can then we see how things look….after all, we will be writing the history!!” The book is published and all the necessary talking heads (economists etc) give it the thumbs down, content thereof totally ignored. Understand this, these people knew the monetary system based on continuous growth must collapse, but as it was their system and the source of their power and control, they said farkit… lets go for it.
Welcome to 2020 and the covid years… suddenly we got
– massive restrictions on travel for the masses (demand destruction for oil, tick one box)
– All forms of electronic control/monitoring of the masses being introduced, (tick another box, you either agree or you are removed from the system)
– the collapse can now be blamed on covid, ie the system aint farked it is the covid wot dunnit!! this is the big box to tick, by making this look like something else they get to prevent any fingers being pointed at their usury based system so they can remain in control whilst managing the collapse>>> enter the great reset.
This to me is the driver, collapse is inevitable, these scum sucking bottom dwellers want to continue to control all of it, and no, we are of no consequence…
It will come to resistance.
This is probably the highest ranking motive, along with their usual list of secondary reasons; most of those being control/enforcement based.
Understand this, these people knew the monetary system based on continuous growth must collapse, but as it was their system and the source of their power and control...
...the collapse can now be blamed on covid, ie the system aint farked it is the covid wot dunnit!! this is the big box to tick, by making this look like something else they get to prevent any fingers being pointed at their usury based system so they can remain in control whilst managing the collapse>>> enter the great reset.
And you propose to do those through the democratic process? LOL You effing killers are all the same.Replies: @mastodon
Having chewed this over in the past my best solution is vasectomy for prepubescent boys then breeding by lottery thereafter, winner gets reversal and ALL have responsibility for the progeny ( they once again become important)
all spp must eventually live within the means (carrying capacity) of their environment, we are no different. yet with typical mammalian fecundity we have the capacity to outbreed our environment, hence we either control our own population numbers or nature will, and nature is in no way means or form “humane”.
Understand overshoot (read Catton), understand exosomatic energy and the population this supports (fossil fuels baby) then tell me how this ends…. ever heard of the reindeer of St Mathews island?? what kills yeast in a vat of wine?? read easters end by diamond, ever hear about the island peoples who every 4 or 5 yrs would send all the young men away on the “great adventure” purely to keep the population down.
You call me an “effing killer”, because I believe we are capable of controlling our numbers because we must, …. child.
We as a spp are making a huge cluster on this rock, collapse and dieoff are inevitable, consider the current covid1984 brave new normal an attempt by the 0.1% to manage the dieoff whilst retaining their position at the top. Who after all funded the club of rome, the difference is they took the work seriously to heart whilst telling everyone else to ignore it.
Your fundamental error is to compare human beings to bacilli. Your example of an island where the young men were sent away is, of course, a pagan response, but it shows the capacity for people to use their intelligence in humane ways to adapt to their limited environments. That's the thing about us human beings. We don't need to kill the unborn or adopt lives without love or families.
all spp must eventually live within the means (carrying capacity) of their environment, we are no different. yet with typical mammalian fecundity we have the capacity to outbreed our environment, hence we either control our own population numbers or nature will, and nature is in no way means or form “humane”.
.There is no way to get around that civilization requires a hierarchy.The people would have to agree to some sort of breeding restrictions. Most people want their children to be healthy and well-bred. Eugenics can be done in a semi-volunteer way where they are offered choices. There is no need for perpetually growing populations that need Malthusian culling, as that which occurs in the minds of self appointed oligarchic demigods.In a mulit-culti tower of babel like the U.S., it would require race specific fertility boards, where some dysgenic people are encouraged to not breed. Or, dysgenic women can be implanted with superior eggs while using the husband's sperm. Women that are birth mothers still have a "mothers" attachment to the offspring even if it is not her DNA. Or, she can have one free dysgenic kid with her and her husbands sperm, while #1 has to be superior. Number 2 is only allowed if TFR (total fertility rate) is below the target level.Condoms can also be made and distributed for free, and women are shamed for unwed pregnancy - perhaps even jailed for the transgression.The idea is to think in a long term way, where you control births and then ultimately reduce populations to an Eugenic high standard. But, this notion that you have to kill off people with diabolical schemes is evil, and takes agency away from the population. It would probably take a King system to enforce a hierarchy with selective breeding restrictions. China could certainly do it. A modern Napoleon could do it.It is much better to block the sperm and egg from joining that killing people after they are born, hence people like Bill Gates and other Malthusians are psychopaths. Putting it in perspective, an authoritarian Fascist or King state is more benign than supposed "democracies" which in turn are controlled by hidden string pullers.Replies: @Hans Vogel, @mastodon
Wouldn’t you agree that a historical position like that of, say Napoleon I, is preferable? A hero to many, a villain to others, his name is no longer offensive to anyone, apart from the occasional diehard
Agree fully with your intentions (either we do it or nature does) but….
we are in no position to judge which genes will be usefull in the future, that decision will be made by the environment whatever we become (if anything) exists in. …. hence breeding must be completely random. Natural selection works for the benefit of those most suited to their environment and farknose what that will be in 1000yrs time!!
Having chewed this over in the past my best solution is vasectomy for prepubescent boys then breeding by lottery thereafter, winner gets reversal and ALL have responsibility for the progeny ( they once again become important)
Being the spawn of viruses we may also need to check what they suggest….
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And you propose to do those through the democratic process? LOL You effing killers are all the same.Replies: @mastodon
Having chewed this over in the past my best solution is vasectomy for prepubescent boys then breeding by lottery thereafter, winner gets reversal and ALL have responsibility for the progeny ( they once again become important)
Humans are controlled with prices and money now.
Having chewed this over in the past my best solution is vasectomy for prepubescent boys then breeding by lottery thereafter, winner gets reversal and ALL have responsibility for the progeny ( they once again become important)
Kali,
After 30 odd yrs of studying the how and why of existence on this planet my best guess of human survival has gone significantly lower than my earlier 50/50.
We are not necessarily “bad” ( in fact empathy and knowledge give us the ability to be a force for life on this planet, think trees) but I do believe we have been intentionally misled over the last few hundred yrs and possibly since the advent of agriculture. And the more media the more we can be misled, the less you personally experience the less able you are to judge.
I have no tears, just a giant deadening sadness for the wasted potential. The only infinite resources are life and time…..
Peace fellow human
Fairly comprehensive summation. Thankyou Mike Whitney.
It still amazes me the few at the top understand so very little of life on this rock that they think they can control the dieoff…. unbelievable hubris or is it actual evil???
While we (the many) continue to believe that money is real
-“they” (the usury specialists) have the power,
-we (as a species) continue to make the wrong decisions,
-tears, tears tears
rock meets hard place for all of us.
Excellent work. I still have a copy of the behind the scenes movie on the puta. Browder is just another scum sucking bottom dweller…..
Correct 100%, while we believe that money today is real we are playing their game and are heading toward disaster for ALL… Every decision made today by individuals and nations and in essence our species is based on money, and this system today is a total human construct that is not connected to the planet upon which we rlive in any way means or form except human belief…. and as we all know we humans can believe in all sorts of weird shite!!
The problem is of course how does one get people to understand this when all media is controlled by the money men…
High levels of sociopathy, greed and a lack of self-reflection seems to be vital traits in western politicians. This is what allows them to survive in the midst of a sea of other politicians of the same ilk in our corrupted system. These sociopaths are incompatible with worshipping benevolent gods. Instead they worship Mammon as their god. Mammon rewards their anti-high society traits. When in power, they steer a nations resources to the service of Mammon.
Every decision made today by individuals and nations and in essence our species is based on money, and this system today is a total human construct that is not connected to the planet upon which we rlive
Correct I think…..
It is called the GAS, general adaptation syndrome. Have a look into universe 25, Calhoun with the rodents…. perfect example of population density effecting behaviour, increase density and what happens…. aberrant social behaviour all the way from infanticide to homosexuality to gangs and . This was discussed many yrs ago on the dieoff group, the general consensus was that it was a system to prevent mammals (who have really good ability to overshoot) destroying total ecosystems. The problem with it then was that from an evolutionary aspect there was no way for group selection to occur. Today we know different, the human brain is considered part of an extended social mind, with necessary input/control supplied by our creators….. viruses!!! Who really are good at quorum sensing and other smooth moves. Have a glance at Luis P Villareal, one of his books covers group identity, cooperation and addiction.
There was a vid/docu that showed up on utube about 2 weeks after this mob were given the keys to you and your offsprings savings that went into the “owners” of the group and what things they were up to. From memory one of the 7 was not of the tribe……
I think when you see this sort of action you begin to understand who is in charge… there is only one paradigm now, make money no matter what…
This will not end well for any of us and these ignorant arrogant hubristic tossers at the top think they will be able to survive….. hohohoho
The shortcut is strangely enuff dead now….. it was from an american group with a strange name.
Excellent piece Sir .
I do see the potential for “covid 1984 V2” later, bigger than before, better than before…. they have already trained the population and many govts are ready and waiting to step back into the breech… I feel the end game approaches, there really are not many options for the scum sucking bottom dwellers, the usury specialists, currently at the top.
20yrs ago I got interested and with many others worked out for ourselves that continuous growth on a finite planet will end in tears. Part of the reading was a book produced by The club of Rome, Limits to growth, the research for said book that was funded by the few at the top…
Today the few at the top must surely be able to reach the same conclusion, so what to do….
option 1) the system collapses thru too much debt created while trying to keep growth going or resource limits are hit hard or (many options)
—–result: the mob witness the failings of the system and change it, those at the top as a minimum lose control….. or
option 2) have something else crash the system, which by way of a bonus number smacks a couple of recalcitrant nations alongside the head, global reset enabled with the few still at the top, power/control retained and none the wiser…=> msm virusvirusviruspanicpanic
I begin to feel this is not a nation/nation punchup, this is the round ? of the few against the rest.
Read Overshoot by Catton for an excellent biological assessment of our predicament
Peace
outstanding work.
thank you
Thankyou Laurent.
Your input, that of Ron Unz and others on this site has helped complete the picture.
As a species we really do have a problem, it is all interlinked and this tribe is a significant part of our intentional misdirection and I am certain more than likely our ultimate demise.
Keep up the excellent work.
Peace
Hopefully not. One thing is certain: they will never stop on their own. They will either exterminate themselves or... exterminate themselves and the rest of humanity.
...I am certain more than likely our ultimate demise.
Chabloz, from Charlesworth in Derbyshire, was convicted last year for writing, performing and publishing songs which mocked Jews and the Holocaust.The charges related to songs titled Nemo’s Antisemitic Universe, I Like It How It Is, performed at the right-wing London Forum in 2016, and a third, titled (((survivors))).In the latter, Chabloz mocked Jewish figures, including Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel, as well as Anne and Otto Frank, to the tune of Hava Nagila.
Ignorance is bliss, the Australian aborigine survived on that block of dirt for somewhere between 35 to 65,000 yrs. They had become so much a part of their environment that their culture was entwined with it: when your sacred areas are breeding grounds for prey species, you are really are in the loop. Without our tender attentions they could have become anything on this planet. The only infinite resources are time and life…
Now look at this marvellous “civilisation” we got, lasting another 10yrs, yeh maybe… 100yrs..1000yrs not a shit show. We live in a fossil fueled fairyland with absolutely no way out. Overshoot is always followed by dieoff.
And of course the blissful ignorance is yours notmyrealname lance.
So dont use it, personally prefer duckduckgo. be aware and act accordingly…..