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  • He Xin: [Six Key Points of Ancient Greek Pseudo-History Theory]

    The key to the authenticity of Ancient Greek civilization lies in the following six aspects. This is the key point:

    I. What “Ancient Greek state” and unified “Ancient Greek culture” never existed in history

    In fact, my critical argument against Ancient Greek pseudoculture and pseudohistory is based on the following four points:

    1. Some people think that Ancient Greece is a country. In fact, before the Greek independence movement which broke away from the Ottoman Turkish rule in the 19th century, there was never a unified, independent, autonomous sovereign country on the Greek Peninsula in history called “Greece”, nor did there ever exist a glorious “ancient Greek culture” centered on Athens.

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    2. Since ancient Greece never formed a unified state, Ancient Greece never formed an independent sovereignty, no monarchy, Dynasty and Greek king.

    For most of history. Part or all of the Greek Peninsula once belonged to the Persian, Macedonian, Roman and Eastern Roman Empires, and later to the Ottoman Turkish Empire. However, the Greek Peninsula and its surrounding areas have never existed as a “Great Greek Colonial Empire”.

    [Note: What is emphasized here is not the existence of a country and culture called Greece or any other name, but the existence of Ancient Greece as a main country and culture, which does not exist in all history. The so-called Ancient Greek culture is a democratic Utopia constructed by modern western historiography and archaeology. ]

    3. Before Alexander’s conquest of the Greek Peninsula, there were only some small cities with extremely backward economy and culture, such as Athens and Sparta. In the heyday of Athens, the city-state had only a total population of about 20-100,000. In fact, this figure is also overestimated.

    [In the classical times, the total population of Athens city-states was about 20-30,000, with the surrounding countryside and slaves, the total population was about 100,000. (On the basis of Wang Daqing, a Greek historian, and the calculation of Jie Guangyun)]

    Greece is a mountainous country with poor geographical conditions. It is extremely poor so far. The transportation between the city-states is not convenient and there is little connection between them. Because there was no unified Greek kingdom or empire in history, and there was no unified Greek army. The rulers of any small city-state on the peninsula never surpassed the narrow areas of the small city-state.

    4. Therefore, the so-called “Great Prehistoric Greek History” which has always been legendary and worshipped is only a series of legends and myths fabricated by Westerners after the Renaissance based on the concept of “Homer Epic” with vague connotations. There has never been a real existence in history.

    In fact, anyone who wants to refute my Greek pseudo-history theory must first refute the above four points to prove that before 1832 there really existed a Greek kingdom or a Greek dynasty, or a Greek colonial empire, or a “Greek Democratic Federal State” on the Greek Peninsula or elsewhere (proving as a kind of government). Governance system and cultural carrier, where and when did the Greek state and the Greek nation exist, then my Greek pseudo-history theory can not be established naturally, and people can attribute all the greatness and glory to this political and cultural entity.

    However, if there is no such Greek state as the historical entity and subject of Greek civilization in history, then we do not know where the unified Greek nation and culture actually exist. It has to be admitted that all the myths about the glorious and great “ancient Greek history and civilization” of Greek fans at home and abroad so far are talking nonsense!

    2. Homer is Asian. Homer’s epics are not Greek epics.

    Homer’s epic poems are of doubtful origin and of unknown origin.

    Where on earth is Homer from and from? If there is no Greek state in the world, Homer is certainly not a Greek. Is Homer a citizen of the world without nationality?

    Is Homer a native European of the Greek Peninsula? No In fact, Homer, always known as the Great Greek Poet, was not a Greek in Europe but an Asian in Asia Minor.

    The interesting question is, if there was no Greek state in the world at that time, why should Homer’s works be all about Greek myths and epics?

    In fact, who is Homer, in what era, even men or women, one person or a group of people? —— Up to now, these problems have not been clarified in western academic circles, and there is no final conclusion. However, all the prehistoric history of Greece today is fabricated and fabricated on the basis of Homer’s epic poems and myths, which are neither clear nor clear.

    The Alexander Library, which claims to have the only original copy of Homer’s book, was said to have been destroyed by war as early as the first year of the year A.D. and that there was no paper left. In the 19th century, Sands’s History of Western Classical Academy was highly praised by Gao. You blow your ass, that book is the western people themselves to forge the history of the West to plug the holes of the book, the book is full of ghosts, lie, and so on! ___________ For example, the Alexander Library, Sands said that it was not burned – this is actually slapping the Great Master Gibbon of Great Britain, Greece and Rome!

    In fact, the Alexander Library, even if it does not exist, may not exist – there is still a controversy in Western history, but it is still a problem. There is no history of faith in the ancient West! The Greek and Roman writings that popped up in the West after the Renaissance – most of which are still undecided as to the authenticity of their texts. ]

    Gao cited in detail some British accounts of Homer’s epic poems, claiming that a series of discoveries had been made in Egyptian papyrus fragments. I am not a Homer editionist, and I have no intention of discussing the authenticity of these so-called Egyptian papyrus editions of Homer at present. I just want to say that these papyrus can’t help the Greek pseudo-historians.

    The main content of Homer’s epic is about the legend of the “Achaeans” attacking the city of Illion. However, this war did not take place on the Greek Peninsula, nor was it a “Greek” war. Since Greece itself is a state of nothingness, where did the Greeks come from to fight against foreigners? Homer’s “Aceans” are actually Asians (Ionians – Asia Minor), not Europeans from the Greek Peninsula or Athens and Greece.
    From the perspective of Western archaeology over the past 100 years, it is believed that the war described in Homer’s epic took place in Asia and Asia Minor on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea. (For example, at the end of the 19th century, Schleman, a German scholar, unearthed the ruins of an ancient city on the West Bank of Asia Minor, believing that it was the capital of the ancient Trojans, Illion.)

    In short, Homer’s epics have nothing to do with the so-called history of the Greek Peninsula, especially the Greek history of Athens. Homer is an epic about the Greeks? It’s called the donkey’s lip is not the mouth of the horse.

    3. Crete and Mycenaean civilization did not belong to Greece

    Some people say that Greek archaeology has the discovery of Crete and Mycenaean culture. Is there Greece in the world from 3000 BC to 1000 BC?

    If not, why should these two independent Island cultures belong to ancient Greece, which did not exist at that time? Some people say it’s based on Homer’s fairy tale – isn’t it farting?! If Homer’s mythology can be used to prove history, then the Journey to the West and the List of Gods can also be used as textbooks of Chinese history.

    [Note: The culture of Crete and Mycenae does not belong to Greece, just as the rope culture of the Neolithic Age in Japan does not belong to China, although there are also rope culture along the southeastern coast of China and Taiwan. ]

    The so-called Crete and Meccinia archaeology, although the unearthed objects may not be entirely false – but western scholars have exposed and questioned many false antiques. (For example, those beautifully painted pottery pots are highly suspicious because there was no such technology for firing and painting painted pottery for all mankind at that time.) As for the monster of the tauren, King Minos of Crete, it must be 100% fake. What clay-plate linear characters A/B are all so similar to those of ancient Chinese characters. I don’t think they are authentic. I dare to doubt it carefully. I wonder if they were forged by foreigners by imitating the pottery square characters of the Stone Age in China. It’s easy to forge the clay version.

    4. Questionable Texts of Plato and Aristotle’s Works

    As for Plato’s and Aristotle’s works, it is true that they are all unknown and have not been preserved in any original edition. (Don’t mention why I don’t know ancient Greek, so I’m not qualified to discuss this – if I’m not qualified, no one in the world is qualified! Because almost none of the so-called Greek works is in the original Greek, either from Hebrew or Arabic – no one has ever seen any original Greek texts before) – if anyone says yes, please tell us which Greek book in China is translated from the original Greek?!
    (the philosophers of ancient Greece had millions of words in written. Plato and Aristotle, for example, have both circulated to today’s works of three million words. This is only a small part of their works. How could it be possible in ancient times? Most of the pre-Qin writers left behind tens of thousands of words. Lao Tzu’s Tao Te Jing has only 5,000 words, and the Analects of Confucius are less than 16,000 words. , the ancient Greek script is a dead script, after more than 2000 years of evolution, and the modern Greek script is two kinds of script, no one has used it for a long time, how its works are inherited, no one has explained clearly. It is said that the Arabs translated into Arabic and spread, somehow, into ancient Greek and other legendary spreading process. )

    As for the so-called “Aristotle’s Works”, which are so vast that they are probably the fake substitution of works by different authors and writers from different periods in ancient Asia Minor, even Mr. Miao, the translator of the Chinese Complete Works of Aristotle, expressed doubts about this.

    (the works of that time in our country can be handed down. An important reason is that papermaking was invented 200-300 B.C. 100 years ago. It is very cheap and can be widely used. However, the ancient Greeks did not have universal recording materials at all. They produced very little and very expensive sheepskin. Material. You know, about 700,000 words of the Old Testament are recorded in the Christian classics, and thousands of parchments are needed. Ancient Greece mainly used sheepskin records to record a scholar’s works of tens of millions of words. How could the cost of consumption be borne by only tens of thousands of ancient Greek city-states? )
    5. Most of the so-called Greek philosophical and scientific giants are not Greeks in Europe, but Asians.

    Ironically, countless people worship the so-called Greek philosophers, most of whom are not Greeks but Asians, except a Plato who is a genuine Athenian, including the famous Taianides, Heraclites, Pythagoras, Euclid, Archimedes and so on.

    These are the general facts – foreign slaves, false foreign devils, you can deny it?!
    One of the important means by which Western academics created the false history of Greece is to steal the developed ancient civilization and philosophy of Asia Minor (that is, Ionia) and pretend to be the European civilization of the Greek island (Athens Greece).

    6. Ancient Greek and Roman civilizations have no inheritance relationship with barbarian Germanic and Anglo-Saxon civilizations

    There is also a face that beats foreign slaves and foreign ghosts most cruel! _____________ That is: Greek civilization is not the cultural ancestor of the white people in the West at all! From the time of the Holy Roman Empire, the white people in the West have always assumed Greece and Rome as their ancestors. Voltaire said a meaningful saying to the traditional “Holy Roman Empire” of the pseudo-empire: “This empire is neither holy nor Rome, nor empire!”

    Even if the history of Greece is entirely true, there is no false history, nor does it matter. —— Because Greeks and later Romans, the so-called Greek and Roman civilization – not Germanic, Anglo-Saxon (white people from northern Europe) and the ancestors of Western civilization at all! They are not of the same race, nor are they culturally inherited.

    On the contrary, Germans, including Anglo-Saxons, have always been the enemies of Greece and Rome. These Caucasians, known by the Greeks and Romans as the barbarians who spoke birds, were the enemies of Greece and Rome.

    The white foreigners themselves had no pride in ancient history, their origins were too barbaric and they were embarrassed, so they made a false history of Greece and Rome as their ancestors’ worship. The so-called “Renaissance” movement is actually a movement in which white people (Latin, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon) systematically forged Ancient Western civilization.

    The reason why I dare to take the lead in the world and challenge the Greek literature and archaeology which appeared in the mountainous western modern times is based on the above six extremely concise points.

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    Anatoly Fomenko said pretty much the same. He said that most of these classics were written in the Middle Ages. Still papyrus has been used for writing on since Egyptian times and old texts have been found, like the Dead Sea Scrolls both on papyri and parchment. It will be interesting to see some of the responses to this comment about how those ancient texts reached us.

    , @d dan
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    "He Xin: [Six Key Points of Ancient Greek Pseudo-History Theory]"

    Interesting. Could you post more info and links about He Xin and his works? He/she certainly has some very unusual (from western readers) points of views.

    I have always been very interested in the "Elements", allegedly written by Euclid. But I also wonder how did Euclid write such monumental works with the conditions (no papers, poor writing tools, economic conditions) in ancient time.

    , @Pincher Martin
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    There's a lot of hog swill in this one post. It's almost as if Tamo has been resurrected under another moniker.

    I don't have time to write out all the reasons why this post is wrong, so I hope someone else is up for the challenge.

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