RSSI am not sure what your point is with this video. Nobody who knows what he (or she) is talking about has ever doubted the general proposition that “thermite can melt steel,” since thermite is routinely used for just that very purpose in a number of industrial settings, especially for the cutting and welding of railroad tracks (an everyday occurrence in track maintenance). This is common knowledge for anyone with a smattering of experience in these matters, so I’m not sure why anyone would feel it necessary to make a homespun video to prove it. It’s bizarre.
This brings up a point I have made before concerning 9/11 Truthers: they don’t seem to have stable notions of reality, nor are they contextually aware of who knows what about whom. Consequently, they do not track events in any kind of rational manner. While I don’t want to resort to ad hominem like they typically do when challenged about their narratives, it still must be said that…
• If you do not already know that thermite melts steel…
• And if you do not already know that this is common knowledge, and consequently already known to me…
• And since known to me, already factored into my appraisal of the events of 9/11…
• And likewise known to anyone else with the requisite qualifications to work for the NIIST and conduct investigations on their behalf…
• And therefore believe that videos such as this one spring forth with novel information on the subject, then…
…Then not only are you wrong in this particular theory, but there is something very wrong with the whole global architecture of your thought-forming process. You are, in fact, “not even wrong,” as the phrase has it. You are living in a parallel tabloid universe of Fortean facts and unrealities. This has been the 9/11 Truther movement from the beginning, and it is horrible that it has lasted as long as it has.
That's insane. Has any steel frame building ever just free fall dropped into its own footprint a couple hours *after* an earthquake? And your theory is that all the buildings were just coincidentally filled with steel-cutting explosives residue?Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Intelligent Dasein
Both the Truthers and the NIST fail to properly account for the seismic effects that would have afflicted the near vicinity of Ground Zero during the collapse of the first two towers.
That’s insane. Has any steel frame building ever just free fall dropped into its own footprint a couple hours *after* an earthquake?
Uh…yes. There is plenty of precedent for such things, especially in the presence of concurring secondary causes such as fires and structural damage, both of which pertain to WTC-7’s collapse. For example, the United States Geological Survey’s study of the 1906 San Franciso earthquake contains some descriptions that sound exactly like WTC-7, avant la lettre.
The Chronicle buildings, corner of Market and Kearney streets, comprised an old ten-story structure and a new fifteen-story annex that was in process of construction, both shown in PL XXX, B. The old building consisted of steel beams and protected cast-iron columns, with self-supporting walls, which had a brownstone front up to the second story and were ornamented with terra cotta above. The floor was of hollow tile, filled with cinder concrete and covered with wood. The cast-iron columns were fireproofed Avith 3-inch hollow tile, and 4-inch hollow tile Avas used for the partitions. The terracotta partitions and fireproofing entirely collapsed. The building appeared to have stood the earthquake shock, and received its principal damage through the fire. The collapse of the western section of the building was probably due to the buckling of the cast-iron columns.
The seven-story L-shaped Kamm Building, on Market street, west of the Call Building and adjacent to it on two sides, had a steel skeleton and self-supporting sandstone walls. The floors were of reenforced stone concrete, covered with wood, with hollow partitions and suspended ceilings of plastered wire lath, the steel columns, beams, and girders being also fireproofed with plastered wire lath. The rear structure collapsed when a number of columns in the basement buckled under the intense heat produced by the burning wallpaper, of which there was a large quantity stored in the basement.
[Note that WTC-7 had a tank of diesel fuel in its own basement.]
So, while this is not typical, it does happen under certain conditions, which were present at the WTC-7 collapse. The failure of Building 7 can be neatly explained by ordinary structural damage, fire, and seismic shifting, without recourse to any controlled demolition.
Not hardly. In fact, no modern steel frame building in the history of the world has ever collapsed that way from an office fire. (Which is why architects and regulators have never changed the building codes or standards to protect against another WTC7 -- because they know such a collapse could never actually happen from a regular fire). But I won't argue it further if you are satisfied with your theory.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @James B. Shearer
The failure of Building 7 can be neatly explained by ordinary structural damage, fire, and seismic shifting, without recourse to any controlled demolition.
Cool, man! Take your time and enjoy it. I would greatly appreciate any feedback, if you feel up to it. I’m sure a review from you would be fair and perceptive. Have a great day!
Try to use your words, Anon. I bet you can do it if you try. I cited you to a scientific analysis with pictures of the nano-thermite, chemical test results, and the sampling process for collecting it. You obviously have an emotional desire not to believe the data. But you've got to do better than just saying "garbage" if you want to have an opinion that anyone gives a shit about. Give it a try.Why do you think the 9-11 dust was full of nano-thermite?
No, it wasn’t. Stephen Jones paper was garbage. I’ve read it. Have you?
Yes. Welded steel can have weld marks. That's got nothing to do with melted micro spheres mixed throughout all the debris dust. Did you once see a steel beam? Does anyone in the world agree with your personal made up "festooned" theory. Because even the government apparently thought that was too dumb to use as an explanation.
Have you ever seen a piece of welded steel? It is often festooned with little metal spherules that are thrown off during the welding process.
Very good, Anon. "Big Airplanes go boom, boom." We all saw that. But no big airplane went boom boom into WTC 7 and it fell down the same way. What's your explanation? Did WTC 7 just die out of sympathy for its sister towers?The reason it's so easy to cover things up is because there so many over-emotional, stupid people who are incapable of evaluating evidence.I don't even want to know what you think "really" happened. I can only imagine how dumb that theory must be.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Anon
WTC1 and WTC2 were brought down because big f**king airplanes full of jet fuel crashed into them.
But no big airplane went boom boom into WTC 7 and it fell down the same way. What’s your explanation? Did WTC 7 just die out of sympathy for its sister towers?
I have answered this question numerous times over the years, but nobody pays any attention to it. The 9/11 Truthers just go blithely on with their theory as if no one has nullified their principal point of contention.
Both the Truthers and the NIST fail to properly account for the seismic effects that would have afflicted the near vicinity of Ground Zero during the collapse of the first two towers. The fluidized subsurface (rumbling during the collapse itself) and subsequent subsidence into the old basements (now craters) would have destabilized any structure in the area, but there were also two sharp shocks of translational motion that would have lifted and shifted WTC-7 by a fraction of inch, creating stress point and shear points across every support column in basically the same location. Once the fires had further weakened the steel in the fabled Column 79 area, it was perfectly natural for the building to twist and slump, snapping every other column at the same time, which is exactly what we saw.
In short, it is completely fallacious to say that WTC-7 was unaffected by any exploding airplanes. It had two massive “earthquake bombs” (so to speak) dropped right next to it, of the same sort that have been used with great effect since WWII. The Bielefeld viaduct was famously destroyed in a similar manner, despite “never being hit” by the Tallboy.
“Remember 9/11 Truthers, no bomb ever hit the Bielefeld viaduct!”
That's insane. Has any steel frame building ever just free fall dropped into its own footprint a couple hours *after* an earthquake? And your theory is that all the buildings were just coincidentally filled with steel-cutting explosives residue?Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Intelligent Dasein
Both the Truthers and the NIST fail to properly account for the seismic effects that would have afflicted the near vicinity of Ground Zero during the collapse of the first two towers.
“What kind of music do you listen to?” has become an obligatory question that newly acquainted Americans ask each other when getting to know one another. It’s supposed to be a way of feeling one another out and assessing personalities. Of course, I myself never have an answer when somebody asks me that (or at least not a simple and unqualified answer). To me, the question of what kind of pop music someone listens to is of far less importance than the fact that they listen to any pop music at all, because I never listen to any of this stuff.
Rather, I should say I never listen to pop music in the same way that other people listen to it, as a primary activity. I may listen to rock from time to time, but never without a certain spirit of irony and curiosity, not as something I want to do for its own sake. It would be similar to a minor deity wandering down from the mountaintop to taste the food of mortals, not because he needed to eat, but just to understand better what the human beings get out of eating.
After many years of living like this, I think I understand a little better what’s going on. I have an aesthetic and an intellectual principle inside myself, but most people do not. Most people need an external source of emotional energy to motivate them, just like they need an external source of authority to organize them and tell them what to do. This is the reason why pop music exists at all, for otherwise it would seem to have but little purpose.
American (Western) culture has exaggerated this emotional forcefield to absolutely absurd proportions, but that is not sustainable and I believe it is already on the wane. The passing of the Boomers and their rock gods will spell the end of the pop-musical era as we have known it, and I don’t think we shall see the likes of it again for several lifetimes.
Mike, over the years you have grown into a great writer and a true artist with the comebacks. Much respect.
I find it completely impossible to follow this never-ending saga of what social media personality said what about whom, because I never listen to any of them anyway. I did not even know who Charlie Kirk was before he got killed. I’d seen his name mentioned, of course, but I knew little else about him and was not curious enough to find out.
In this case, I can safely say that I think the world would be a better place if more people were like me.
Currdog73:
please explain why Sydney Sweeney is getting all this “ink” (publicity). [...] I don’t think she’s all that pretty, only thing I see is she has big tatatas.
SYDNEY SWEENEY
Almost Missouri:
Weird hooded eyes, and a strangely slovenly way of speaking. Very off-putting.
(Please, anyone with good opinions on the matter: share a General Theory of Vocal Fry.)
In the general theory, “vocal fry,” as the phrase is being used here, refers to the rhetorical posture of the human female when she is full of self-regard and wants to seem important in a particularly diva-like way. The subtext is, “I am happy, relaxed, divine, above it all, and everything I do is in sync with the universe and comes off effortlessly.” You have to be in a very sanguine mood to do this authentically.
As such, there is a male version of vocal fry that you might call the “magnanimous pedant” register. It occurs whenever a man, in a giddy mood and momentarily thrilled at being the center of attention, begins to lard his public speech with over-intellectualized renditions of commonplace topics. The hosts of “drive time” radio shows often slip into this timbre, especially if there are two or three of them (it happens more in dialogue than monologue).
This was published three months ago:
the rhetorical posture of the human female when she is full of self-regard and wants to seem important in a particularly diva-like way. The subtext is, “I am happy, relaxed, divine, above it all, and everything I do is in sync with the universe and comes off effortlessly.” You have to be in a very sanguine mood to do this authentically.
Sydney Sweeney and Vocal Fryby Casey Erin Clark (Public Speaking & Communication Expert)
LinkedIn | July 2025Everyone’s talking about That Ad . . . I want to talk about Sydney Sweeney’s voice.
When I heard that voiceover — the throaty vocal fry, the lack of consonants and dropped word endings, the stretched out vowels, the pitch that somehow simultaneously feels high/nasal and low/breathy — I knew exactly what they were going for even without the visuals.It’s a vocal character as calculated for effect as Minnie Mouse’s adorable chirp, Marilyn Monroe’s breathy purr, or, for that matter, Elizabeth Holmes’ techbro baritone. It’s the 2020’s version of Sexy Baby Voice. And listen . . . I have BIG feelings about (and over a decade of research and expertise in) how we talk about women’s voices. I hate the gendered criticism and the egregious double-binds. I hate that women in the real world with vocal characteristics similar to this are dismissed as airheads and blocked from leadership positions. And in the case of this ad, I recognize an acting choice when I see one. Whether that was Sydney’s choice or the marketing department asking for what it wanted, that wasn’t left up to chance or “naturalism”. [...][I]n the case of this ad, along with the visuals and overall messaging, this vocal choice is absolutely about making Sweeney the cool girl — in the specific sense of very youthful, sexy, and absolutely non-threatening . . . to men of a certain age. She’s not someone you have to take seriously. She’s a fantasy you can project whatever you want onto. An empty vessel with no discernible thoughts or feelings of her own.
As you say, the COVID-op seemed to end sometime in early 2022. Perhaps it was due, as you say, to the Russian invasion of Ukraine - a whole new "Current Thing".
It’s worth noting that the endless cycles of lockdowns and “new variants” only definitively stopped on 2/24/2022, when …
Anybody who enabled that tyranny – I will remember. I will not forget, and I will not forgive. They will forever have my deepest mistrust and suspicion.
I would hope this also means that anyone who steadfastly fought that tyranny would earn a measure of trust in your book. To wit, I invite anyone to examine my commenting history with respect to Covid, and they will see that I was flawlessly opposed to that regime in every particular, right from the very beginning. Time has proven me right on that score, as it will eventually do with the other unpopular opinions I have voiced here.
For what it’s worth, Mr. Anon, reading through the comments here lately, I have found you to be an especially levelheaded and perceptive voice, and I agree with much of what you say. I hope an ID endorsement doesn’t hurt your reputation in these parts, but I just wanted to tell you I think you’re on the right track.
Unless you're talking about TUR articles in general, that particular opinion wasn't so unpopular around here. It was our host, Mr. Sailer, whom I would say was "caught up in the thick of it", to put in somewhat generously.*I was miffed that Mr. Sailer generally saw the Legacy Media for what it was, but this got so big that his normal cynicism and sense of stupidity went missing... as with that one guy turned into a newt... he got better..
Time has proven me right on that score, as it will eventually do with the other unpopular opinions I have voiced here.
Why? You know, Tucker, you don't have to interview everyone. You don't have to be a flake to be independent. Just because the respectable media doesn't believe something doesn't mean that you have to believe it.
Tucker Carlson interviews Nick Fuentes.
A useful addendum to Ron Unz’s nameplate, paraphrasing the great Jerry Seinfeld:
“Sometimes the perspectives excluded from the mainstream media, are excluded for a reason.”
America's Half Blood Pundit!Replies: @Timothy Black, @Intelligent Dasein
But why not consider the most obvious one?: Steve slowly came to terms with being half Jewish (by blood), first criticizing the people who “abandoned” him (he was given up for adoption);
America’s Half-Blood Blintz.
You gotta keep the rhyme, homie.
(Several of the commenters here, and many more of the non-commenting readers of this Sailer-blog discussion, were active at the Z-Man site. Intelligent Dasein spent a lot of time there…)
Indeed. I actually controlled his output for several months by basically running Inception ops from the comments section. I would disagree with something he wrote and explain why. The disagreement itself would garner from him and his entourage the usual fusillade of insults and gainsayings that I’ve come to expect from such places; but, being right (as I typically am), the idea would exert some kind of subconscious force on the Z-Man, and—lo and behold!—the next day my “disagreement” would appear as his daily blog entry, suitably worked over in characteristic Z-Man fashion, with both him and his commenters seemingly oblivious to the fact that I had implanted the whole thing in his mind.
This went on for quite some time—me playing the mini Wurlitzer while the peanut gallery hurled rotten tomatoes in my direction—but it wasn’t really the way I wanted it. I kept hoping that he would actually “see” where his ideas were coming from and become conscious of them, so that we could have a real conversation about things. That didn’t happen, however, and I had to quit before it got to be too on-the-nose. I don’t get any pleasure out of that sort of manipulation, which I wasn’t even trying to do in the first place. Now that he’s gone, I can only shake my head at the lost opportunities. HBD is a cancerous thought-worm that really blinds the eyes of those whom it infects, rendering them impervious to any kind of criticism or correction.
The Z-Man had a very odd sort of mind. I think the adjective that best describes it is “backwards.” He would talk about well-known people and things as if they were esoteric figments he was struggling to pull out of the ether—“Speaking of lying, there was that guy from back in the ’90s who just used to lie with impunity…I think he was a politician from Arkansas or somewhere…who was it?…Ah…Oh well, It doesn’t matter…Oh!… Bill Clinton, that was it!”—and meanwhile he would employ his own private lexicon with perfect assurance, as if it were some universal language that we all ought to understand instinctively. Whenever he reached for a commonplace idiom or cliché, he would invariably employ it in exactly the opposite sense that it normally carries. For example, the saying, “Dogs bark and caravans move on,” is supposed to mean that the deeper events of life and history progress towards their destined outcome with a serene steadiness that is not deterred by the yapping objections of inconsequential people; but whenever Z-Man used this phrase, he would identify himself with the dogs and deem the Progressive Left the caravan that marches on: the very opposite of the essentially optimistic manner in which a real Traditionalist would take it.
The Z-Man was not really too bright. He was the kind of person who, in a better world, should have ended up as a middle school English teacher that the students begrudgingly admitted handled the material effectively, despite his tangential stories and monotone delivery; but somehow or another, he got shunted into a “bad timeline” version of himself and became the bellwether for a cadre of internet cranks who only had the intellect and maturity of middle-schoolers. That he was interred with Catholic ceremony despite his atheism, his utter rejection of the faith, and his Norman Greenbaum-level grasp of theology is an ending that only Flannery O’Conner could write—and a merciful repudiation of his work.
Well, at least that statement was half right (the first part).
I’ve come to expect from such places; but, being right (as I typically am)
Hmm. Did you steal that modus operandi from him, or did you first “implant the whole thing in his mind”?
—and meanwhile he would employ his own private lexicon with perfect assurance, as if it were some universal language that we all ought to understand instinctively.
Haven’t you recently self-published a book that almost no one will ever read? How many copies have sold so far?Replies: @res
he got shunted into a “bad timeline” version of himself
It is very much Netanyahu’s style to push his way to the front of an aborning current event, and try to control the narrative to his advantage. It doesn’t mean Israel was actually involved; being the tactless criminal buffoon that he is, he would just do it anyway.
Perhaps ironically (for you being a wordcel), you’re bad at vocabulary.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @vinteuil
Assassination is murder for hire—that’s all
Perhaps ironically (for you being a wordcel), you’re bad at vocabulary.
“Wordcel” is not a word.
It is now, you fuckwad.Is "fuckwad" a word? I don't care. Generic American's point was well understood, and you are a mildly insane, pseudo-intellectual who gets his rocks off by having his pretend-theses published.You are of a type. You are crazy. You will not be listened to or seriously read, ever.Please, go away.
“Wordcel” is not a word.
Wrong. Google it and you’ll find it used as word by many different sources.
“Wordcel” is not a word.
Assassination is murder for hire—that’s all; but then the word is used antonomastically for all kinds of dramatic public attacks, motivated hits, and decapitation strikes against one’s rivals. It probably shouldn’t be. If the hit is motivated by any kind of political or economic calculation, it is enough to say that the victim is ‘whacked’ or ‘offed.’ If, on the other hand, the attack is a politically ineffectual but psychologically expressive act of rage, it is enough to say that the victim is ‘murdered’ or ‘killed.’
Charlie Kirk was not assassinated. He was killed.
Ain't AI grand? Anyway, in modern usage, this is what happened to Charlie Kirk. Language is always evolving. This is a problem for those who worship Words.
The word "assassin" originates from the Arabic name for a medieval Ismaili sect, Hashashin, which European travelers and Crusaders misinterpreted as referring to "hashish users". While the group's founder, Hassan-i Sabbah, called his followers Asasiyyun or "people of principle," enemies and outsiders used the pejorative term hashishiyyin
I have to disagree about the "for hire" part. Who hired John Wilkes Booth or James Earle Ray? Perhaps they had some kind financial assistance at some point (a category that would exclude very few), but their motives were sincere conviction, not mercenary.
Assassination is murder for hire
Perhaps ironically (for you being a wordcel), you’re bad at vocabulary.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @vinteuil
Assassination is murder for hire—that’s all
The Feds released a video of the supposed shooter jumping down from the roof. At that point he is supposed to have a disassembled rifle somewhere on him, but there is no rifle to be seen on his person. Where's the rifle? It is not there. Explain this, Anglin.Then, the assassin supposedly ran to the woods where he was going to ditch his rifle, but he decided to reassemble the rifle before ditching it. Why would anyone do that? If you're an assassin making your escape and you're going to ditch your rifle, why would you stop and waste time reassembling it? It makes no sense. Explain this, too.Then during the shooting there were two dudes behind Kirk doing some kind of hand signals seconds before Kirk was shot. Explain this.Then there was an old Jew in the crowd who created a perfect distraction after the shot. What was that about?The supposed assassin got busted because he leaked his whole plan in details to a roommate or an ex-roommate on Discord which was not actually Discord. What person sane enough to plan and execute a perfect assassination and escape would be insane enough to give away all the details of his plan to someone in some chat app for no reason? How convenient for the official story.The goyim bought the JFK magic bullet theory, they'll buy this story too.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
I’m open to conspiracy theories, if those seem to become more likely as more information comes out, but the “official story” currently seems to provide a sufficient explanation: “young guy who grew up in Utah around guns started getting into leftist stuff on the internet, and like all young men in America, was emotionally unstable, planned what amounted to a very easy assassination.”
At that point he is supposed to have a disassembled rifle somewhere on him, but there is no rifle to be seen on his person. Where’s the rifle? It is not there. Explain this, Anglin.
Why is everybody saying this? The rooftop escape video clearly shows the alleged shooter carrying a long satchel that could easily contain a rifle. The conspiracy theories have gotten so weird that they simply deny things that are right in front of their face, contained in the video evidence.
Oh?Here's some video evidence, right in front of your face:Security detail uses military-type signaling
The conspiracy theories have gotten so weird that they simply deny things that are right in front of their face, contained in the video evidence.
More oddities:George Zinn
John Cullen @I_Am_JohnCullenWe have a big problem.
@FBIDirectorKashThe round that shot Charlie Kirk was not recovered.And, in a related story..A .30-06 rifle was found wrapped in a towel in a nearby wooded area.There is no ballistic connection. 🙄Therefore, I’m afraid we have a really big problem.
@AGPamBondihttps://twitter.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1966671807617941891
Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, "Other than 15th century organ scores, it's doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music."
Other than Gregorian chant, it’s doubtful that ID recognizes anything more recent than 15th century organ scores as music.
Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, “Other than 15th century organ scores, it’s doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music.”
I need you guys to pick up your game. You can’t even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I’m feeling neglected here.
As Achmed pointed out, Gregorian chant is still being written hence statement makes sense. In any case was not intended as personal attack, more like semi-affectionate twitting but perhaps it was gratuitous.
Other than Gregorian chant, it's doubtful that ID recognizes anything more recent than 15th century organ scores as music.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Intelligent Dasein
OK, so ID & GTOD are quarreling, now? and not just about their musical preferences?
Other than Gregorian chant, it’s doubtful that ID recognizes anything more recent than 15th century organ scores as music.
Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, “Other than 15th century organ scores, it’s doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music.”
I need you guys to pick up your game. You can’t even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I’m feeling neglected here.
As Achmed pointed out, Gregorian chant is still being written hence statement makes sense. In any case was not intended as personal attack, more like semi-affectionate twitting but perhaps it was gratuitous.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, “Other than 15th century organ scores, it’s doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music.”
I need you guys to pick up your game. You can’t even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I’m feeling neglected here.
Really. No replies from you to my whuppin’ of your upthread ‘arguments’?
I’m feeling neglected here.
I'm generally sympathetic that on public policy matters ("government work") we don't have to resolve ancient philosophical questions before taking action; just heading in the right direction is usually "good enough for government work".
The existential root causes of black underperformance are beside the point except to philosophers
Well if it ain't those dang "root causes" cropping up again!
well-meaning white imbeciles propose solutions which have nothing to do with the problem because they are based on fake premises
Right. We've poured several trillion dollars, thousands (millions?) of lives, decades of time, and uncountable energy down that particular rabbit hole, and we have less than nothing to show for it. The ROI was actually negative. Even if we were dumb enough to rerun the experiment, it is doubtful we could afford it without self-destruction. Can we now admit the Exclusively Environmental thesis is definitively falsified? It is, after all, an existential matter at this point. If we don't admit that failure, every decision from now on will still be tainted with its toxin of falsehood, and we will once again reap the whirlwind, this time terminally.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Intelligent Dasein
Even if you think it’s all environmental, you still have to deal with making choices about changing the environment (we tried that already, a few times, and it never worked)
Right. We’ve poured several trillion dollars, thousands (millions?) of lives, decades of time, and uncountable energy down that particular rabbit hole, and we have less than nothing to show for it. The ROI was actually negative. Even if we were dumb enough to rerun the experiment, it is doubtful we could afford it without self-destruction. Can we now admit the Exclusively Environmental thesis is definitively falsified?
That does not follow. The failure of Great Society interventionist measures does not prove anything about the nature/nurture divide, one way or the other. Neither are these two things dichotomous; and neither are they (collectively) exhaustive.
Furthermore—and this is the part that HBDers simply cannot process, because HBD is just another strain of modernism—even if those interventionist measures had worked, that’s still no justification for doing them. After all, there are numerous people, at all times and in every society, who would benefit from better opportunities, and yet society does not treat their improvement as imperative.
This should lead you to conclude that practical outcomes of any kind were never the point of Great Society/Civil Rights-era social engineering. Once you get that far, only then can you start asking yourself the real questions: What was it really all about?
Huh? If an entity intervenes (takes action), and the result is to that entity’s satisfaction, that in itself is justification by definition to the one taking the action. You, an impotent third party on the sidelines, can yell “No, no! Not like that!”, but maybe nobody cares what you think, and maybe for good reason.Presumably you can explain in a clear, simple way why the interventionist is wrong, but if you can’t, and the interventionist (action taker) is not feeling charitable, there may be justification for you receiving a brutal beat-down.
even if those interventionist measures had worked, that’s still no justification for doing them
LOL. If you don’t already know, and think you’ve broached some unheard-of topic, you must be a dopey undergrad in SOC/PSYCH 101. But in your past videos you look a lot older than a typical undergrad…
This should lead you to conclude that practical outcomes of any kind were never the point of Great Society/Civil Rights-era social engineering. Once you get that far, only then can you start asking yourself the real questions: What was it really all about?
Unfortunately (at least to my own blinkered mind), the actual realistic solutions to these issues…
Your mind is blinkered because you still think there is some sort of problem to be solved here. There isn’t. That is pure, unconscious modernism of a socialist bent.
The important question is not, “Why do blacks underperform in schools?” The important question is, “Why are we all enslaved by the tyranny of universal compulsory education? Who gave these schools authority over us, and how can we stop it?”
The important question is not, “Why are blacks poorer compared with whites?” The important question is, “Why is everyone—black, white, or whatever—beholden to a neoliberal monetary system that deprives the vast majority of them of any productive property and individual sovereignty, and forces them to work a wage-slave job and barely survive off consumerist slop? How can we defeat this thoroughgoing oppression? Is it even possible?”
If you can ask these questions, you might have something worth talking about besides Billie Eilish and blackness.
The important question is not, “Why do blacks commit more violent crime?” The important question is, “What good are the rules if they mean only drudgery and misery for anyone who follows them, while rampant lawbreaking at every level is not only not punished, but positively rewarded? Is such a society even worth preserving? Is it even a society?”
The important question is not, “How can I solve the social problems of the black community, so that I can maximize the ease and comfort of my earthly life without ever needing to deal with their dysfunction?” The important question is, “This world being a Vale of Tears that affords no lasting city, how can I live in such a way as to be worthy of a glorious eternity?”
That’s only true for those cognitively limited to that fate. Is that you? Maybe if one is not born rich and just starting out in adult life, it’s a temporary situation (most young people have to “pay their dues”—I know its soooo unfair OMG), but if in America you’re still spinning your wheels pushing 40, that could be a “you” problem, ID.
beholden to a neoliberal monetary system that deprives the vast majority of them of any productive property and individual sovereignty, and forces them to work a wage-slave job and barely survive off consumerist slop
Publishing tomes of vain, recondite onanism surely isn’t the way.Are you, Intelligent Dasein, worthy of the love of your Creator? Because you think Deep Thoughts, therefore you ARE?If you’re lucky ID, you’ll only spend 100,000 years in Purgatory.You’ve got to work for Love.
The important question is, “This world being a Vale of Tears that affords no lasting city, how can I live in such a way as to be worthy of a glorious eternity?”
Yes, I talked about this version years ago, but of course nobody here reads what I actually write, so they wouldn’t know that.
The problem is, as evidence for an HBD explanation of phenomena, this comparative advantage model is circumstantial at best, and cannot in any way be conclusive, as I demonstrated in the comment linked above. There are multiple ways that this could be true without HBD having anything to do with the matter.
All of this conduces to the fact that HBD is exactly what I have clearly and consistently claimed it to be over many years: a Fortean hypothesis that arranges “damned facts” into a pleasing narrative structure, but without a real underlying metaphysic to support it.
Everybody knows this in the back of their minds. The intellect cannot err in its own domain, even among those who make such regular abuses of it as HBDers are wont to do. The increasingly shrill responses marshaled to prevent this aborning cognitive dissonance tell us everything we need to know about the state of their argument.
What does that mean? What is it that biological phenomena are derivative from?Replies: @Corvinus
Finally, none of this should be read as if I were suggesting that “race does not exist.” I am a race-realist, I am just not a biological race-realist. The kind of biological phenomena that we can measure and weigh are derivative; they are not really what “race” is all about.
You contradict yourself by criticizing “Fortean” but call for “a real underlying metaphysic” (itself a nonsensical contradiction): Fortean and metaphysic are the same thing. Clearly, since you are dogmatically religious and believe in supernatural woo, you resent empiricism that refutes your magical kumbaya equalism, and are vainly trying to project the cope of your supernatural worldview into empirical areas, like HBD, that you morally disapprove of.You’re basically a tut-tutting church lady who uses fancier-than-average words, with little understanding of what those words mean, leading to cringeworthy self-contradictions like I pointed out above.Also, how many mestizos and Blacks do you think will read your book?
All of this conduces to the fact that HBD is exactly what I have clearly and consistently claimed it to be over many years: a Fortean hypothesis that arranges “damned facts” into a pleasing narrative structure, but without a real underlying metaphysic to support it.
The evidence for all hypothesis is circumstantial. So yes, "at best" and only, just like every other hypothesis.
as evidence for an HBD explanation of phenomena, this comparative advantage model is circumstantial at best,
Which linked comment read as a long description of comparative advantage in practice. Or in "circumstance", if you prefer.
and cannot in any way be conclusive, as I demonstrated in the comment linked above.
Okay, so let's check the evidence and compare.
There are multiple ways that this could be true without HBD having anything to do with the matter.
All hypotheses arrange facts into a pleasing narrative structure, so again, so I'm not sure why this hypothesis's predictive power should be discarded for doing exactly what any good hypothesis does.
HBD is exactly what I have clearly and consistently claimed it to be over many years: a Fortean hypothesis that arranges “damned facts” into a pleasing narrative structure, but without a real underlying metaphysic to support it.
I wonder if anyone else here has any well-organized thoughts about this. Right here on this very website, Paul Craig Roberts has a piece up in which he links to a Substack post by Donald Jeffries, the burden of which is to disabuse the reader of the belief in black athletic superiority. Jeffries claims that blacks have benefitted from a massive Affirmative Action-like campaign at every level that promotes them well beyond their abilities in sports—a claim that has often been made here, as well—and he has an upcoming book all about the subject.
I don’t much care for the post itself. Jeffries writes in a cantankerous, kvetching manner that rather ill-befits the habit of the contrarian, who above all things must be confident in his assertions; but let that not detract from the logical analysis of the point. If the contention is right—and I believe it is—it puts the HBD community in a somewhat interesting predicament, and that is the more fascinating effect (in my opinion).
Assuming this is correct, it more or less kicks the last plank out of the decrepitating HBD party platform, which had long upheld the myth of black athletic superiority as a collateral hypothesis alongside its beliefs about black IQ and black criminality, the whole cluster of traits being thought to be the result of a divergent genetic heritage between blacks and whites (according to the HBDers). This is where things get difficult, for as I have pointed out before, HBD seems to exhibit a sort of keto-enol tautomerism whereby it can take two separate forms without altering its basic chemical composition.
In the first sense, we have HBD proper, which is the so-called hypothesis that blacks’ lower performance with respect to a host of social indicators is a direct result of “biology,” i.e. a different genetic profile when compared with whites. It is heavy on evolutionary theory, quantishness, statistics, and biochemistry, all purporting to prove that these differences are both inherited and unalterable by cultural influence. This is the keto-form.
In the second sense, we have HBD not so much as a specific theory but more as a loose synecdoche for a very broad-based complaint about the state of racial politics in the contemporary West. In this mode, concerns over the illegality and imprudence of the Civil Rights-era reforms and Affirmative Action predominate, along with global denunciations of white virtue signaling and permissiveness towards black misbehavior. This is the enol-form.
The two forms are usually held in unsteady equilibrium; the same minds tend to believe both, although they are not entirely compatible with each other. The interesting thing about Jeffries’ post is that here they are brought into direct opposition, and HBDers are going to have to decide what they really believe about all this. Are blacks overrepresented in sports because of their superior endowment of fast-twitch muscle fibers, acquired over thousands of generations bounding up and down the Sahel; or have they been the beneficiaries or unfair quota systems, here as elsewhere?
I firmly predict that the hard, keto-form of HBD will prove to be unsupportable, and that much more recondite sociocultural (and even spiritual) factors are needed to explain the reality and politics of race as we understand it today. In the meantime, the purveyors of keto-HBD like Steve Sailer must be made to answer for their vandalism of the subject. Keto-HBD has wasted huge amounts of time and probably set the intellectual development of Rightest politics in America back at least 25 years. Undoing this damage will take a great amount of effort, but there are many promising signs that the tide has turned, with the fading of this blog’s prominence being one of the most visible.
Nice straw man. Who among HBD proponents claims the latter? Sailer sure doesn’t.
In the first sense, we have HBD proper […] all purporting to prove that these differences are both inherited and unalterable by cultural influence. [e.a.]
Why not possibly both? You’re reaching with a false dichotomy. Don’t strain yourself.
Are blacks overrepresented in sports because of their superior endowment of fast-twitch muscle fibers, acquired over thousands of generations bounding up and down the Sahel; or have they been the beneficiaries or unfair quota systems, here as elsewhere?
You haven’t yet answered my question from upthread: In your estimation, how many mestizos and Blacks will read your “recondite” book?
I firmly predict that the hard, keto-form of HBD will prove to be unsupportable, and that much more recondite sociocultural (and even spiritual) factors are needed to explain the reality and politics of race as we understand it today.
Sherlock, I hope you realize that Sailer has long decamped to Substack and has an increasing number of subscribers there. It’s no longer a “blog” here; it’s literally a series of open threads with no MC.Replies: @Greta Handel
the tide has turned, with the fading of this blog’s prominence being one of the most visible
It's almost complete piffle. Insofar as it is true, HBD is hardly implicated. Two different things are being conflated here. Pure athletic ability such as sprint speed,etc., and success in a given sport such as NFL or NBA. Pure athletic ability is an input in this success but hardly the only route to success. Do you think 'affirmative action' explains why the top 60 100m sprint times in history are all held by West African descended runners? Do you think 2 billion South Asians and East Asians with very, very different attitude/experience of Blacks are cucking in their favor? If after reading Jeffries' essay you 'believe the contention is right', it's because you went in thinking so, not because of any persuasive facts/reasoning you saw there .Replies: @res
I don’t much care for the post itself. Jeffries writes in a cantankerous, kvetching manner that rather ill-befits the habit of the contrarian, who above all things must be confident in his assertions; but let that not detract from the logical analysis of the point. If the contention is right—and I believe it is—it puts the HBD community in a somewhat interesting predicament, and that is the more fascinating effect (in my opinion).
Thanks.
David Stockman provided the statistic on his Substack that the U.S. industrial production index increased at an annual rate of 3.3% from 1954 to 2007. During the last seventeen years, the annual rate of increase dropped down to 0.10%.
You can read the relevant David Stockman post here on Lew Rockwell, without needing to subscribe to anything.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/08/david-stockman/america-dont-need-no-independent-fed/
For example, “Intelligent Dasein” is fine with our race being wiped out as long as whoever remains practices Tradition.
Don’t put that garbage into my mouth. I am not “fine” with anybody being “wiped out,” and you certainly cannot produce any quote of mine asserting as much. Your hysterical commenting has now crossed the line. Unfortunately, you’ve been encouraged in this libelous behavior by many other commenters here who really ought to have known better, so the fault is not entirely yours.
Part of the reason why White Nationalism will never be anything more than a fringe position is because people like you obviously do not understand what is being said to them. You’ve whitewashed yourself into a corner that is far too narrow to contain the larger realities with which others have to deal, so they rightfully regard you as a curiosity, and move on.
You would be well advised to stop commenting and to read something a bit more substantive than the tenth-rate internet scribblers on which you’ve been weened. This is a waste of everyone’s time—including yours.
What is your response to Christians who say that there is no such thing as race?
Like who?
I’m not aware of any serious contemporary theologian or public intellectual who is making a big deal out of this. You need to stop pretending that this is some kind of ongoing problem. It isn’t.
Christianity has very little to say about race per se, other than to affirm that Jesus is the Lord of all creation and the sole source of salvation for all those who are saved, and that ethnicity and nationality are no bar to receiving His mercy. Anybody with half a brain can plainly see that this is in no way equivalent to saying that “there is no such thing as race” in the physical sense.
When laypeople intone pious bromides like “all men are created equal” and other suchlike sayings, it is clear to me that they are simply making inexpert reference to the Christian truth mentioned above, while probably also being influenced by the egalitarian spirit of the times; but Christianity does not need to answer for the latter, and in any case, the loosely held enthusiasms of laypeople are not really “Christianity” anyway.
There is nothing in Christian doctrine that says, “there is no such thing as race.” This is nowhere to be found in Sacred Scripture or Sacred Tradition, nor can it be logically deduced therefrom. There is no theologian of any note who ever held such a view with a firm and examined philosophical conviction. It is not something anyone takes seriously.
I fully suspect that you know all this already. You don’t really expect me to believe that you are genuinely perplexed and frustrated by a horde of Bible-thumpers constantly insisting that “there is no such thing as race,” do you? You are raising a red herring just to generate some kind of response from me that you can further impugn. This is a waste of time, and I do not appreciate it.
You are not confused by any of this, so stop crapping around.
Correct. The exception is the Episcopal Church which barely exists anymore because they are promoting the nonsense Johnson attributes to Christianity generally. The other is that weirdo David French who writes for the failed once conservative magazine National Review.Replies: @Mark G., @MEH 0910
I’m not aware of any serious contemporary theologian or public intellectual who is making a big deal out of this. You need to stop pretending that this is some kind of ongoing problem. It isn’t.
No, you're wrong. They have NOT started to work. Things are worse, in fact. That is, unless by "working", you mean working at destroying the nation. But, I guess that big word "proleptically ", gets you you off the hook somehow... OK... .Haha, even spellcheck doesn't know it, but I'll believe you over my instance of spellcheck still.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Corpse Tooth, @Pericles, @Corvinus, @Moshe Def
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
No, you’re wrong. They have NOT started to work. Things are worse, in fact. That is, unless by “working”, you mean working at destroying the nation.
By “working,” I mean that they have successfully incorporated the diverse elements of the nation into a single system of publicly permissible expressions and behaviors that I have called “the ethics of the market square,” the underlying desideratum of which is to smooth and facilitate the rule of money. I have shown how this system of pseudo-ethics becomes crystalized into the positive law of urbanized environments (the “traffic”) and then becomes an overwhelming hydrodynamic flow (the “weather”) that sets the tone for collective behavior throughout modernity’s ambit. This force becomes a “city spirit” that I eventually show to be identical with Mammon, whom it is not possible to serve when serving God. Finally, I point out the historical necessity of overcoming this spirit, and a strategy for doing so, which no other discussion of this topic has even approached with comparable specificity.
Sounds interesting, no? Too bad you have already decided not to read it.
ID, in your estimation, how many mestizos and Blacks will read your book?
I have shown how this system of pseudo-ethics becomes crystalized into the positive law of urbanized environments (the “traffic”) and then becomes an overwhelming hydrodynamic flow (the “weather”) that sets the tone for collective behavior throughout modernity’s ambit.
Cute. I’ve got one for you: because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit your virtue signaling out of my mouth.
As a Currdog returneth to the vomit…
I have repeatedly called for an end to Affirmative Action, disparate impact, and preferential treatment for anybody, and I have now done so in print, under my own name—in the book. I have devoted considerable space to explaining both the economic consequences of such nonproductive spending, and the Scriptural exegesis that proves that such things run counter to Christian charity, and I have done so in print, under my own name—in the book.
Similarly, I have repeatedly likened immigration to an exploitative form of revenue extraction that operates like an inverse Export-Land model, I have strongly favored its elimination, and I have done so in print, under my own name—in the book.
I have made even more controversial claims that I doubt anyone here would be bold enough to attach their names to, pseudonymous or otherwise; but to get a taste of those, I invite you to pick up a copy. If you’re going to speak to me, it would helpful if you knew what you were talking about, and for that you will need to reread—or in your case, simple read—what I actually wrote.
Before I list how you are wrong about all 4, let me say that I understand the you agree that all of these have screwed over the White man for 60 years running. Even if your statement above were true, it'd all still be wrong. (In some way, you agree with SS on this. He's not a big believer in basic principles.)
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
Before I list how you are wrong about all 4,
Since I don’t really disagree with any of this, I am not sure what you think I’m wrong about. I am not saying whatever it is you think I am saying. Stop proleptically reacting to any perceived difference and try to understand the words.
No, you're wrong. They have NOT started to work. Things are worse, in fact. That is, unless by "working", you mean working at destroying the nation. But, I guess that big word "proleptically ", gets you you off the hook somehow... OK... .Haha, even spellcheck doesn't know it, but I'll believe you over my instance of spellcheck still.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Corpse Tooth, @Pericles, @Corvinus, @Moshe Def
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
As you mentioned, this is true for all demographics and there are a whole host of reasons for it, but the pattern is the same everywhere. Understanding those background reasons would form the substance of a real economic analysis, such as my own. Statistics are a premise, not a conclusion.
It’s strange—for example, even many of the more “numerate” commenters here often make comments that imply (or directly reveal) that they do not realize that both the black and Hispanic TFRs are well below the replacement rate, even among recent immigrants. America as a whole has an inverted population pyramid (i.e. more older people than younger people), but this is also true of every race taken singly.
The Sailer commentariat has, by and large, one of the most obsolete lists of priors of any community on the internet—a problem worsened by their insufferable belief that they represent “the cutting edge of societal evolution” (h/t Rush Limbaugh). Any attempt to educate them out of this impasse is seen as invading the tree fort and triggers their siege mentality, so they never learn.
Yes, I was thinking of this as I wrote you, but this replacement for blacks is dysgenic. Additionally what Mr. Sailer had noted only occasionally (he did in his Tucker interview), and I have in my 2-part Coming to America series is that black immigration, mostly legal, has been huge. See Part 1 and Part 2..https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/post_3009B.jpg.
... both the black and Hispanic TFRs are well below the replacement rate, even among recent immigrants. America as a whole has an inverted population pyramid (i.e. more older people than younger people), but this is also true of every race taken singly.
My indicator of normality would be this: a couple of black novelists actually write good novels about things like the all-white development of Cubism in Paris circa 1919, or an expedition to Antarctica, or the life of Coco Chanel.
Comments like this perfectly illustrate why you and the others here keep missing the point. These things aren’t “normal.” Most white people don’t do them, either. “Normal,” in this context, means being a basically law-abiding guy and holding down a job driving a forklift, or some such. It does not require any rare talent to do such things, but it does require overcoming the rampant dysfunction of the ghetto culture. The majority of blacks have now done this; it is not merely “the talented tenth” who are gainfully employed, and if you think otherwise, there is not much I can say to convince you of anything.
Like hell they have. Currdog is right. This comment of yours has made a book purchase decision very easy for me. I imagine your economic discussion could be very interesting, but I gotta go with " Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus." Saves me time...
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
Like hell they have. Currdog is right. This comment of yours has made a book purchase decision very easy for me.
So, I’ll send you a freebie and you can fisk it. Should be easy, right? Does Peak Stupidity have a PO Box? Don’t deprive the world of your superior outlook.
Honestly, Achmed, this whole comment is pretty lame. You hear the call of the apostle but you’re afraid of the murmur of the crowds, so you go running back to your fishing boat. As a Currdog returneth to the vomit…
I’ll miss your normally cheerful self. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance.
Before I list how you are wrong about all 4, let me say that I understand the you agree that all of these have screwed over the White man for 60 years running. Even if your statement above were true, it'd all still be wrong. (In some way, you agree with SS on this. He's not a big believer in basic principles.)
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
Cute. I’ve got one for you: because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit your virtue signaling out of my mouth.
As a Currdog returneth to the vomit…
Do they actually “do quite well” ? Some mestizos may rise to a ceiling of mediocrity, but that isn’t “doing quite well” in an “Anglo” context.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
Do they actually “do quite well” ? Some mestizos may rise to a ceiling of mediocrity, but that isn’t “doing quite well” in an “Anglo” context.
Yes, they actually do. Many people around this blog have a conception of Mexicans that is distant and outmoded. But I lived in Greater Denver/Northern Colorado for three and a half decades, and I watched the entire transformation take place.
When I was a kid, most of the Mexicans one would run into there were Cholos or the children of Cholos. They tended to be thuggish, crime-prone, uninterested in any sort of higher culture, and best avoided. But today, there are hundreds of thousands of Mexicans there, across all socioeconomic classes, who are simply “normal.” They speak English without an accent, send their children to school, and are upwardly mobile within the limits of their circumstances. There are no behavioral differences between them and Caucasian people of equivalent social rank, for all the good and bad that implies.
Even with blacks, something similar is occurring. The American South and the rustbelt cities of the Midwest and Ohio Valley still have their core populations of what might be called “ghetto blacks,” with everything we understand in that term; but around the periphery, there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.” They work, they pay their bills, their children have abandoned Ebonics, etc.
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work. That does not mean that it was worth the cost, and it does not mean that it was good policy; but it does mean that the basic premise of HBD is, essentially speaking, not true. With enough time, black social indicators normalize into the white range. The differences that still exist are the result neither of genetics nor “structural racism,” but of profoundly different historical and cultural legacies.
One cannot make a black child behave like a white child simply by “educating” him—that is, by bussing him from a black neighborhood to an affluent white school district—when everything else about his home life and environment are still starkly different. After all, education is but one small subset of a larger process of acculturation that requires many generations to achieve, and the more important roots of acculturation are ineffable and unquantifiable. It took white people 250 years of modernity to get to their current state, and black people, as a group, have not had an analogous process of development; however, with the massive opportunities afforded by the late 20th century, many blacks as individuals and families are starting to make the shift.
Again, the fact that this is possible does not mean that it is either morally obligatory or financially feasible. It is not within the remit of society to ensure that every single individual attain to the fullest flower of personal achievement, and forcing this mandate upon society only distorts it and disables it for its nonnegotiable function of providing for the commonweal. But countering this notion requires not a retreat into the pseudoscientific side-parlors of HBD, but a more general critique of the ethical presuppositions of modernity, and that is what my book provides.
What is the proportion compared to the rest of them? The usual 'talented tenth'?
there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.” They work, they pay their bills, their children have abandoned Ebonics, etc.
Completely useless observation without including stats on relative proportions of “social rank” per respective racial group. How are you measuring per capita “social rank”? Academic test scores, crime rates, net income, etc.? You’d have to be obtusely innumerate to pretend that American-born mestizos in aggregate measure up to “Anglos”.
There are no behavioral differences between them and Caucasian people of equivalent social rank, for all the good and bad that implies.
No stats again, I see. How much has that “increasing number” increased, and how are you measuring it? Maybe you’re not a numbers guy and go on “feels”, LOL.
…but around the periphery, there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.”
Ah, more handwaving. What indicators? The visions in your head?
With enough time, black social indicators normalize into the white range.
For that kind of subject matter, of an American-born readership, what do you think the likely ratio of readers who are English-reading mestizo vs. “Anglo” would be? I think one per 10,000 would be a generously high estimate. :)Replies: @Currdog73, @The Germ Theory of Disease
a more general critique of the ethical presuppositions of modernity, and that is what my book provides
Like hell they have. Currdog is right. This comment of yours has made a book purchase decision very easy for me. I imagine your economic discussion could be very interesting, but I gotta go with " Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus." Saves me time...
Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
You meant ethnic cleansing. An event that in no way offends your "moral" sensibilities.Replies: @Corvinus
I lived in Greater Denver/Northern Colorado for three and a half decades, and I watched the entire transformation take plac
Better socialized but still incapable of learning algebra at comparable rates no matter what the change in social habits.
but around the periphery, there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.” They work, they pay their bills, their children have abandoned Ebonics, etc.
https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2022/11/24/large_racial_reading_and_math_performance_gaps_persist_as_children_age_110794.htmlReplies: @Bardon Kaldian
Whereas nationally, 86% of white 4th graders were at least on grade level in mathematics, this was true for only 55% of black students. The national black score was pulled down by the dismal performance of black students in the poorest performing cities: Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia. In these five cities, the average share of black students performing at least at grade level was 28%, with none having more than 31%. These cities highlight the large math deficits experienced in many poor black neighborhoods nationally.
Roughly 54% of black residents within the 100 largest American metro areas were suburbanites in 2020. The growing racial math performance gap for these suburban black students has important ramifications. A Brookings Report found that in 2019, only 7% of black test-takers score at least 600 on the math portion of the SAT exam. By contrast, 11%, 31%, and 62% of Latino, white, and Asian test-takers, respectively, did that well. These low scores indicate that a large portion black students are leaving high school without the tools to be successful in college STEM majors.
Ridiculous. ALL of Latin America is in bad shape under a variety of governments. The only exceptions are the whiter areas. It takes deliberate evasion not to see that.
Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
The answer is to be sought in liberal progressivism.Oh yeah, the way it ruined Denmark and Sweden.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Your reading comprehension has reached Tiny Duck levels of nonproficiency. Well done.
I have extensively discussed this dynamic in my book, where I also tie it in with the lack of fertility throughout the developed world, the expansion of urbanization, the modernistic tendency to risk mitigation, and the comparative wealth of nations.
Part Two: Problems of Living and Working
Chapter 6: The Politics of Coworkers
PRECISE: A question that often emerges in discussions of American economic history is, “Why is the USA so wealthy and advanced while Mexico is so poverty-stricken and backward?” The countries, after all, would seem to be similarly situated—e.g. abundant arable land, abundant mineral wealth and energy resources, long coastlines on both oceans facilitating global trade, etc. Conventional appeals to the “Protestant work ethic” do not satisfy, for the number of people whose religious beliefs consciously impact their work habits is vanishingly small. Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies. The answer is to be sought in liberal progressivism.
Progressivism, if we define it by its sociological effects, has two main components: 1) It legalizes all the rackets. Behaviors that were prohibited or carried significant social risk in traditional societies (like loose sexual morality) are not only normalized but are stripped of many of their deleterious consequences by a deliberate program of risk mitigation carried out by; 2) The bureaucratization and financialization of social life. The substitution of “women’s liberation” for personal codes of honor in relations between the sexes requires the attendant construction of schools to educate women, hospitals to provide abortions and dispense birth control, and so forth. These urbane innovations are expensive and must be paid for using the typical neoliberal strategy of social-democratic debt monetization and exploitative resource extraction. Thus, the social and economic phases of progressivism advance, side by side.
Because the traditional modes of social-sexual enforcement (e.g. killing the guy who deflowered your daughter or slept with your wife) do incur large frictional costs that prevent such societies from accumulating great amounts of liquid wealth, the replacement of such behavior by liberal-progressive risk mitigation really does “work”—for a few generations, anyway. Adult life becomes more and more comfortable, but this comfort is purchased at the expense of all the children who were never born while women were eschewing their matronly role. Future wealth is pulled forward into the present, there to be “financialized” into modern convenience and liberal institutions, with the inevitable, ever-increasing burden of public and private debt being the lengthening shadow threatening a day of reckoning.
There is, therefore, a direct relationship between debt and modernism. Every break with tradition requires a quantum of economic sin that will continue to circulate until it is extinguished by production without consumption, which requires a prudential orientation towards property, family, and future. For the full fleshing-out of this idea, you’ll definitely want to read the entire book. There is much more where that came from. All this is explained in only one chapter, and there are more than thirty others, all similarly replete with insight. This is truly the most important sociological text yet published in the 21st century. It is also rip-roaring fun to read, so pick up your copy today.
Ridiculous. ALL of Latin America is in bad shape under a variety of governments. The only exceptions are the whiter areas. It takes deliberate evasion not to see that.
Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
The answer is to be sought in liberal progressivism.Oh yeah, the way it ruined Denmark and Sweden.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Do they actually “do quite well” ? Some mestizos may rise to a ceiling of mediocrity, but that isn’t “doing quite well” in an “Anglo” context.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
That's the wrong Matthew Beck. Intelligent Dasein has previously appeared on video:
Indeed. Interesting that you found time to write your book given what apparently is happening to you. But it’s probably just a misunderstanding, right?
Midway through the video Intelligent Dasein sticks a tack in his arm to demonstrate that he is not afraid of vaccination needles.Replies: @Corvinus, @Intelligent Dasein
Sincerity
Mar 10, 2022
In which I talk about who is genuine and who isn't in the Sailer blog comments.
I would like to do a few more videos from time to time, now that there is no need to bother about the opsec. It’s a lot easier to engage that way. Anonymous discussion fora tend to give the advantage to whoever has the largest amount of free time to be a provocative, mouthy asshole who never need answer to anybody for his insults—an atmosphere hardly conducive to real thinking.
I think those days are coming to an end. By some combination of law and cultural preference, the age of internet anonymity will give way to a time when attaching a real identity to your words will be the only way to get yourself taken seriously.
ID – thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn’t cost 500 dollars (like Sailer’s gaudy memoir) I’d be interested in purchasing it.
Hello Mike! If there was some way we could connect offline, I’d be happy to send you a complimentary copy, but even apart from that, I don’t think the $21.99 that Amazon charges will break the bank. There may be parts of the book you disagree with, but I think there are other parts you would really enjoy. The main introductory theme involves using traffic congestion (a subject I’m sure you’ve had ample opportunity to meditate upon) as an extended metaphor for neoliberal economic failures. The ever-increasing numbers of people on the road, the poor road conditions, collective behavior imposing individual burdens, the debt that allows all these cars to be purchased, the consumerism that necessitates all these extra trips—the story of modern life is written in the fumes and frustrations of urban gridlock. There is even a special subchapter about spot market freight brokers. That, and much more besides.
Since you’re here, I’d be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don’t have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump’s tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.
It’s a nuanced subject, to be sure; but economics is all about nuance—it’s just the nature of the beast—so that’s how we’ll have to roll.
Firstly, a little framing. I am certainly not against tariffs in principle. A protectionist trade policy is essential to industrializing (or in America’s case, reindustrializing) a nation. If Trump’s tariffs had been part of a comprehensive policy package aimed at onshoring industry and reducing exposure to counterparty geopolitical risk, then I would be all for them. America is in the rare and fortunate position of being one of the few nations on Earth that can function as an economic autarky. We don’t need trade at all, assuming we are willing to adopt reasonable expectations and live within our means, but therein lies the rub.
Secondly, I concede the point that these tariffs will eventually raise consumer prices and reduce American standards of living. I’m willing to bite that bullet, because that was inevitable, anyway. Whether we choose the path of austerity, default, or debt monetization, all roads now lead to the same place. There is no way that America can solve its economic problems without pain and sacrifice (in the book, I refer to this convergence of outcomes, independent of policy, as the unity of the utopias). I argue that for America, at this point in time, inflation and debt monetization, working through a wage multiplier that functions like a reverse income tax, is actually the best policy, imposing the least amount of hardship on ordinary people and the most amount of hardship on the financial sector, where it is deserved. A subsiding tide lowers all boats, but inflation, done the right way, is “progressive” (to use the preferred nomenclature).
The tariffs are a budgetarily equivalent but more “regressive” version of the same strategy. Furthermore, the fact that Trump is imposing them in an arbitrary and scattershot manner, leaves a lot to be desired. Although I have not really read Ron Unz on the subject, I can sympathize with those who are not entirely sanguine about how this all went down. But most frustrating of all is this: when Trump uses the imposition of tariffs as a threat and a negotiating tactic, it calls into question the whole rationale for instituting them at all.
I mean, tariffs are either good or they’re bad. If they’re good, we should just do them. Is the purpose of the tariffs to rebuild American industry, or is it to keep Bolsonaro out of the Brazilian court system? It cannot be both. For Trump to tell American workers that he will enact protectionist measures to safeguard their jobs and incomes, and then tell Brazil he will tariff the hell out of them unless Bolsonaro goes free (at which point he would presumably lift the tariffs) is not logical or consistent even from Trump’s own point of view. This is what strikes a hollow note, and I suppose this is what’s fueling the TDS.
So, the TL;DR version of the above:
1) Tariffs as part of a comprehensive protectionist reindustrialization policy are good.
2) Tariffs in isolation are not ideal. There are better ways of addressing the issues they were meant to solve, but since you have to start somewhere, they may be politically palatable for a time (but the clock is ticking).
3) Tariffs wielded like a weapon to arbitrarily sanction whatever regime is on Trump’s shit-list today are not going to accomplish anything meaningful and will eventually do more harm than good.
The situation is nuanced because the tariffs can be either good, bad, or tolerable depending on the overall policy context, but political discussions in America today are not really geared for nuance, so it’s difficult to explain this to people.
ID – thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn’t cost 500 dollars (like Sailer’s gaudy memoir) I’d be interested in purchasing it.
Hello Mike! If there was some way we could connect offline, I’d be happy to send you a complimentary copy, but even apart from that, I don’t think the $21.99 that Amazon charges will break the bank. There may be parts of the book you disagree with, but I think there are other parts you would really enjoy. The main introductory theme involves using traffic congestion (a subject I’m sure you’ve had ample opportunity to meditate upon) as an extended metaphor for neoliberal economic failures. The ever-increasing numbers of people on the road, the poor road conditions, collective behavior imposing individual burdens, the debt that allows all these cars to be purchased, the consumerism that necessitates all these extra trips—the story of modern life is written in the fumes and frustrations of urban gridlock. There is even a special subchapter about spot market freight brokers. That, and much more besides.
Since you’re here, I’d be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don’t have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump’s tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.
It’s a nuanced subject, to be sure; but economics is all about nuance—it’s just the nature of the beast—so that’s how we’ll have to roll.
Firstly, a little framing. I am certainly not against tariffs in principle. A protectionist trade policy is essential to industrializing (or in America’s case, reindustrializing) a nation. If Trump’s tariffs had been part of a comprehensive policy package aimed at onshoring industry and reducing exposure to counterparty geopolitical risk, then I would be all for them. America is in the rare and fortunate position of being one of the few nations on Earth that can function as an economic autarky. We don’t need trade at all, assuming we are willing to adopt reasonable expectations and live within our means, but therein lies the rub.
Secondly, I concede the point that these tariffs will eventually raise consumer prices and reduce American standards of living. I’m willing to bite that bullet, because that was inevitable, anyway. Whether we choose the path of austerity, default, or debt monetization, all roads now lead to the same place. There is no way that America can solve its economic problems without pain and sacrifice (in the book, I refer to this convergence of outcomes, independent of policy, as the unity of the utopias). I argue that for America, at this point in time, inflation and debt monetization, working through a wage multiplier that functions like a reverse income tax, is actually the best policy, imposing the least amount of hardship on ordinary people and the most amount of hardship on the financial sector, where it is deserved. A subsiding tide lowers all boats, but inflation, done the right way, is “progressive” (to use the preferred nomenclature).
The tariffs are a budgetarily equivalent but more “regressive” version of the same strategy. Furthermore, the fact that Trump is imposing them in an arbitrary and scattershot manner, leaves a lot to be desired. Although I have not really read Ron Unz on the subject, I can sympathize with those who are not entirely sanguine about how this all went down. But most frustrating of all is this: when Trump uses the imposition of tariffs as a threat and a negotiating tactic, it calls into question the whole rationale for instituting them at all.
I mean, tariffs are either good or they’re bad. If they’re good, we should just do them. Is the purpose of the tariffs to rebuild American industry, or is it to keep Bolsonaro out of the Brazilian court system? It cannot be both. For Trump to tell American workers that he will enact protectionist measures to safeguard their jobs and incomes, and then tell Brazil he will tariff the hell out of them unless Bolsonaro goes free (at which point he would presumably lift the tariffs) is not logical or consistent even from Trump’s own point of view. This is what strikes a hollow note, and I suppose this is what’s fueling the TDS.
So, the TL;DR version of the above:
1) Tariffs as part of a comprehensive protectionist reindustrialization policy are good.
2) Tariffs in isolation are not ideal. There are better ways of addressing the issues they were meant to solve, but since you have to start somewhere, they may be politically palatable for a time (but the clock is ticking).
3) Tariffs wielded like a weapon to arbitrarily sanction whatever regime is on Trump’s shit-list today are not going to accomplish anything meaningful and will eventually do more harm than good.
The situation is nuanced because the tariffs can be either good, bad, or tolerable depending on the overall policy context, but political discussions in America today are not really geared for nuance, so it’s difficult to explain this to people.
Well, let’s see if this works.
According to the criteria set forth by Ron Unz at the commencement of these open threads, I should now have my comments automatically approved—a privilege that I never enjoyed when Sailer was here and one that I now (ironically) no longer require, having decided to comment here no longer.
However, I am breaking radio silence just this once to inform the forum of the publication of my new book: Traffic and Weather Together Next: The Love of Money, the Root of All Evil, and the End of the American Economy.
I have long been convinced of the truth of the maxim that when it comes to diagnosing and correcting the modern social dysfunction, amateurs talk ideology and professionals talk economics. Correspondingly, I have placed my full panoply of economic meditations together in one accessible form that is now required reading for all Traditionalists.
I have called this a complete metaphysical critique of neoliberal economics, written with the soul of an adventure. After a long introduction that explains the key concepts of the book, the main text falls into four parts: 1) A philosophical history of neoliberalism, beginning with the break with Thomistic metaphysics enacted by the early modern philosophers; 2) a socioeconomic exploration of the contemporary living and working conditions resulting therefrom; 3) a Scriptural exegesis that explains the fundamentals of Christian economics; and 4) practical individual and policy recommendations for recreating a Catholic economy even while taking in the full scope of concrete, modern realities.
If I do say so myself, this is a uniquely enjoyable and trenchant book, quite timely and pertinent. It is also extremely pleasant to read—it pulls no punches and stands alone in its genre as the first effort of its kind. As this revelation involves a partial doxxing of myself (I assume Ron Unz will allow that) please be respectful when discussing or reviewing it.
The dense but highly readable prose is replete with insights that leap off every page. It is well worth your time and effort to read, as there is nothing else like this today. Thanks, and farewell.
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Likewise. However, he’s now cowardly throttling Greta Handel’s participation at TUR by:
According to the criteria set forth by Ron Unz at the commencement of these open threads, I should now have my comments automatically approved—a privilege that I never enjoyed when Sailer was here
When’s the last time someone was publicly limited or banished? Apparently, RU is concerned that this would accelerate the exodus of commenters like you.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
and one that I now (ironically) no longer require, having decided to comment here no longer.
Quite possibly true, given your high-quality writing here.
The dense but highly readable prose is replete with insights that leap off every page. It is well worth your time and effort to read, as there is nothing else like this today. Thanks, and farewell.
Also, save rare exceptions, the quality of the articles has dropped a lot, not to mention the quality of the commenters. Perhaps it’s time to go.
Yeah, it’s time to go. It’s been years in the making here, and that goes for a lot of other things, too.
Way back in 1998, I made a conscious decision to stop watching television because I realized it had all turned to garbage. The culture was completely fake and gay, moronic, trashy, violent, gaudy—it just had nothing redeeming about it.
I’ve got that feeling again, but now I feel that way about the entire internet. Twenty years ago, even the comments on relatively normal sites like First Things and Asia Times were better than the content you get here, today. Back then, it seemed like there were more erudite and learned people who actually had opinions and would discuss things. Not anymore. The internet is just an amusement park filled with old, broken-down rides, and you’ve already ridden them all.
Of course, the internet is part of the functional infrastructure of contemporary life and it’s hard to get rid of it entirely, but I certainly don’t need to spend any extra time engaging with it, as if it had something to offer. You’re right, it’s time to move on.
I didn't mean to motivate you or anyone to stop commenting, however. Your comments were one of the few remaining things interesting here...
You’re right, it’s time to move on.
Yes, you’re right.
Obviously, most people in the survey misunderstood what they were being asked. Instead of carefully thinking through whether the question itself should be taboo, they just proleptically reacted to their feelings that the subject was somehow immoral or icky. If the idiots understood how the hell they were actually supposed to answer, they would realize that some of the ickiest subjects are actually the least taboo questions to ask.
People are stupid. People do this very thing all the time, and the more intelligent you are, the more you realize that they’re doing it and the more it frustrates you. It’s like being a Catholic and having to put up with all the dipshits who think “the Immaculate Conception” means “the Virgin Birth.”
On the other hand, there is one caveat to all this. The stupid people may have an inarticulable but reliable instinct, born of experience, telling them that when a social scientist says “I want to ask you about X,” what he really means is, “I want to demolish your traditional opinions about X and concoct sciency rationalizations for holding the contrary view.” In this, the stupid people are right, so they may be answering that those questions are taboo as a means of defending whatever remains of their healthy and normal morality from subversive politics masquerading as science. If you were to hindcast this interpretation over the last 30 years of “social science,” you would find it to be eerily accurate.
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/lousiana-rep-clay-higgins-says-he-and-his-wife-have-covid-19-again
Spite, much?
You’ve clearly been waiting for this moment. How was it?
You are a man among the Midgets of Unz. Thank you for all your commentary.
Cope.
It’s actually really sad and evidence that Western society has a huge case of gene denial. You see them put pressure on kids that just aren’t that good. This also happens with White men/Asian woman couples. Dad marries a me so horny sex pot and seems to think that Tom Brady will come out but with somewhat slanted eyes.
I realized I would not be able to sit through another Asian dinner without wanting to stab myself with a fork over the trite conversation.
And speaking of speaking–how is BAP so successful? I find nothing compelling or charismatic about his voice and thoughts. I give up. I have no idea what people are looking for.
People read, listen, and watch not to be informed or to think, but to confirm prejudice. Sailer’s ongoing popularity is owed entirely to him providing a platform for disaffected white people to complain about American racial politics, as I’ve pointed out before. It certainly isn’t due to his accurate takes on contemporary issues.
Boy, did this post ever bring out the inner nurturist in the iSteve community.
Posit: Observed difference in black behavior and intelligence are largely genetic in origin.
HBDer: Absolutely. The Real Science!™ of genetics establishes beyond any doubt that 70,000 years of divergent evolution between blacks and whites have conditioned blacks to be low-IQ, compulsive, violent thugs with a high time preference. Environment can neither account for this nor correct it. If you don’t believe this, you are a science-denying, blank-slatist idiot who needs to open up his eyes and look at the statistics. Steve Sailer is the most underrated intellectual of the last 100 years.
Posit: Genetic polymorphisms that correlate with intelligence also correlate with leftist politics.
HBDer: Bullshit. It’s all confounded by assortive mating and the educational system. Only smart people go to college, where they are brainwashed into being doctrinaire liberals (because smart people completely lack agency when it comes to their own intellectual development and they believe whatever their professors tell them to believe—they’re tabula rasas, I tell you). Besides, what does “Left” really mean today, anyway? The designation of what counts as liberalism and what does not isn’t that cut and dried. It all exists on a continuum. Political affiliations are not intrinsic features of a person, they are a social construct.
No further proof is needed that “HBD” has never been anything more than a thin, pseudoscientific patina applied to racial animus, especially against black people. If you were as indulgent towards blacks as you were towards your fellow whites, you would sound no different than any Civil Rights-era hippie. If you were as rigorous with whites as you were with blacks, you would sound like the Nation of Islam.
HBD is not even wrong. It isn’t merely that it gets scientific facts incorrect, it’s that it has no idea what a scientific argument even is, or how to make one. It’s just an excuse for bitching about race relations in America. This, in and of itself, is fine; America has a number of legitimate problems with racial politics, immigration, and underclass black criminality—but that is a completely separate subject from the nature of race itself. What race is, HBD will never discover. I hold this blog and this entire movement discredited.
You sort of missed the point of most of the comments here. Far from being tabula rasa, people are programmed by their genes to be conformists, to favor their in-group and dis-favor their out-group, to take self-flattering positions, etc. Many of the commentors are pointing to these other natural biological tendencies (i.e. character flaws) driving otherwise smart people to take transparently stupid liberal political positions.
HBDer: Bullshit. It’s all confounded by assortive mating and the educational system. Only smart people go to college, where they are brainwashed into being doctrinaire liberals (because smart people completely lack agency when it comes to their own intellectual development and they believe whatever their professors tell them to believe—they’re tabula rasas, I tell you).
This is a superb analysis of what it is to say that something exists or does not exist and is the reason why people keep reading the comments sections despite all the garbage they have to scroll past. The interesting question of whether something can be objectively (i.e. seen by more than one person) observable and yet not exist gets to the heart of the matter. I would only add that race exists right left and centre when a "liberal" is choosing a school for their own children.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
Take virtually any ten year old kid and they could easily sort a diverse room of people into different racial groups. More specifically, given 100 Koreans, 100 Swedes and 100 Nigerians I’d dare say that they’d do it with 100% accuracy, even if all participants were dressed exactly the same and no communication were allowed. How is that possible with something that “doesn’t exist”? Do the same with just photographs and it would be the same.
Of course, the opposite (contrapositive?) is not true: just because something cannot be seen (e.g., germs) does not prove that it does not exist. But, I’m having difficulty coming up with examples of things that are observable and yet don’t exist. Maybe someone can help me out here.
I recall an experiment that James Randi did where he attempted to prove/disprove a woman’s claim that she could see ‘aura’. He set up a row of doors behind which he had people randomly stand such that the top of the door was just above their head and any of their aural emanations would be visible above it (given that aura allegedly extends a few feet out from one’s body it should be visible). He then asked the woman to identify which doors had people standing behind them. Her selections were no better than chance which seemed to indicate that she has no such aura-seeing powers.
On the other hand, had she correctly identified all the doors with people behind them then that would certainly suggest that something special was going on: Maybe she could see aura? Furthermore, if you got multiple aura-sighted people to not only pick the right doors, but consistently ascribe the same aura colors to the same people, then I suspect that you’d seriously be onto something and aura would, indeed, be determined to be a real thing.
This is a superb analysis of what it is to say that something exists or does not exist
I don’t think it’s a very good analysis at all. The aura experiment was poorly designed and inconclusive. It would be easy for an aura-perceiver to come back and say that since the aura is a property of the whole person, you cannot see the aura unless you are actually perceiving the person, too. Auras were never supposed to be taken as physical emanations like light. But even if the aura had been actual, physical light, the experiment as designed would have blocked that, too. Thus, it really doesn’t prove anything, other than the fact that the experimenter is an idiot.
I would guess that auras are a type of synesthesia.
I had very strong synesthesia with respect to letters and numbers when I was young. I would perceive every letter and number on a printed page as surrounded by a halo of color of a particular hue that was unique to that character. It was a really cool talent to have, since the colors are easier to recall than abstract signs. It gave me a great ability to do arithmetic in my head and to remember things I had read.
Now that I’m in my 40s, the synesthesia is mostly faded, and my ability to calculate in my mind and to remember blocks of text verbatim is correspondingly much reduced from what it once was. It’s kind of sad, but it is an inevitable consequence of the course my life has taken. Now that I am burdened with many cares of the world, my neurological architecture has had to adapt. The adult brain must be formed for willing and doing instead of just perceiving things and delighting in them like a child or a savant.
But here is the thing. Even when I was a little kid, I never once was so silly as to believe that the halos were physically present on the page; but they were part of the way that I perceived the characters. Obviously, I would have to know what character was present before I could “see” its halo. Every letter “A” looks burgundy red to me, but an ambiguous piece of letter “A” does not have this quality.
It’s reasonable to think that other people—probably mostly women—have this same color-added sense when they perceive human forms; but of course, the form must be perceived before its aura can be perceived.
Universal human hierarchy? Is it so hard to understand there are many traits and they don't all align? Much less important traits (e.g. intelligence) not having a simple hierarchy themselves (e.g. multi-dimensional).
Imagine — the world we are living in could indeed be the best of all possible worlds if only we would let the right people (them) distribute power and resources as they see fit (to more of them).
Eagerly awaiting the better measure for intelligence she supplies. But not holding my breath.
It must be incredibly frustrating for the hereditarians that people at the bottom of their universal human hierarchy keep refusing to accept that they should let their betters run the show.
I do find it fascinating how goodthinkers seem so focused on ideas like this. Why might that be? Is there a more parsimonious explanation than projection?
The answer, of course, is that IQ is an inappropriate metric for and psychologists should stop saying that IQ measures intelligence.
Her invocation of all those people would be more compelling if she would engage with work like Jensen's (a notable name not dropped) g book and Emil Kirkegaard's (a name dropped, but only to say what a bad person he is) admixture studies of race and IQ.
the idea that humans are subject to a natural order, a universal human hierarchy that organizes us from better to worse.
If anyone sees a worthwhile observation in that piece could they please point me to it?
I think what we have here is not an intellectual revolt, but the beginnings of one. Miss Keira, like most modern people, does not really have the vocabulary or the conceptual architecture to develop the kind of case she needs to make. Even though she knows that something sticks in her craw concerning “hereditarianism,” she does not understand why, and all her education leads her in the wrong direction. So, instead of pointing you to a worthwhile observation, I will point you to the spot where she torpedoes her own argument. It’s right at the beginning of the article:
Hereditarians, biological essentialists, those who really like the idea of a universal human hierarchy to simplify and categorize and organize this messy thing we call life all share one quiet certainty: Our refusal to acquiesce to natural law is what is holding us back.
I know what she means by “biological essentialists,” but properly speaking, that phrase is just a meaningless combination of words. If something is essential, then it does not take a modifier like “biological.” Furthermore, in speaking somewhat derisively of essentialism in general, she throws away her own life preserver. Real essentialism, of course, precludes the kind of biological reductionism she is arguing against. If she had a correct understanding of things, she would see it as an ally instead of a boogeyman.
I gather it would surprise her to learn that HBDers, at least the less doltish variety thereof, ruthlessly reject essentialism because they understand it means the end of their operation. There is an intrinsic materialist implication in HBD which Keira apparently shares for other reasons, so she is somewhat ill-equipped to win this argument. However, while HBD entails materialism, materialism does not entail HBD, so it is possible for two materialists to argue with each other about this; but since neither one has a philosophical advantage over the other, these arguments are merely political not scientific.
Fran Drescher is currently in the studio recording it.
Life imitates art imitates life, or is it the other way around?

Just go back and hit the button you want, you stupid fuck-stick.
Jesus Lord Almighty, the stupidity of you white IQ fanatics is ever a sight to behold.
As to natural rights, I’d suggest checking out the back and forth on the topic between Paul Gottfried and the Z-Man vs Michael Anton. Just my opinion, but it was a tad embarrassing for Anton.
Z-Man is a deranged lunatic who wins every argument in his own mind because he equivocates on important concepts. This does not fool intelligent people who understand the relevant territory, but his readership seems to consist of people who are so damn angry that they just don’t care about his bad arguments. He should stay out of this fight. I’d like to think that the guy means well, but he’s not a philosopher.
Considering what the authorities have been doing to the President, in the age of total politicization, does the concept of F*ck You money exist any more?Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @res, @scrivener3
“I think it more a matter of her thinking she has an unassailable platform and F*ck You money.”
Yes, I agree.
To reply to both Nicholas Stix and res:
From a cynical and radical perspective, the trans agenda is a pretty good hill to die on, and taking others’ FU money is the whole objective. If you’re looking for wealthy individuals to sue or powerful institutions to appropriate, then having the ability to accuse them of running afoul of some strange gender ideology is pretty good leverage.
In debates about leftist ideology, it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that the ideology was never the point for these folks. “Cultural Marxism” has always been a cynical Machiavellian power play that specifically targets classical liberal societies, and it’s been very successful at it.
I get the feeling reading this that J.K. Rowling thinks the cancel culture is bluffing.
They’re not bluffing.
I believe everybody needs to be using their real identity online, at all times. This should be codified into law. There should be no anonymous posting and no screen names. The blanket of anonymity has enabled the worst people here to say all sorts of insulting things without fear of reprisal, and that needs to stop.
The problem is, the people to whom this rule most needs to be applied are the very people who would never abide by it voluntarily, so there is no advantage in doxing oneself until it can be made mandatory for all.
You don’t say!
the worst people here to say all sorts of insulting things without fear of reprisal, and that needs to stop.
The blasphemy is a nice additional touch.
Just go back and hit the button you want, you stupid fuck-stick.
Jesus Lord Almighty, the stupidity of you white IQ fanatics is ever a sight to behold.
It’s just a simple matter of collimating time and effort. Every generation exerts a multiplier effect on the generation that comes after it, because it becomes easier to do things that have been done before. Whether it’s baseball, or admission to Ivy League colleges, or the Flynn Effect, or any of the other things that people here like to talk about, the underlying dynamic is the same.
However, sometimes you have to take a step back and ask yourself what the relevant criteria for success really are. I submit that in baseball, it isn’t actually the ability to play—it’s the ability to professionalize, which is a whole different thing. At the margins, simply having the notion that this is a valid way of making a living and is therefore worth pursuing, makes a big difference. Then there is also the whole process of maintaining eligibility throughout one’s youth and then negotiating a proper contract, which can all be pretty high hurdles for a neophyte. Having a dad who knows the business can be decisive.
In demonstration of point, ladies and gentlemen, I draw your attention to the fact that this rubbish from HA has just increased the comment count.
Compare Scott Greer’s following on X with Steve’s: Steve has ¾ the following Scott has, but Scott’s Substack comments count per article is far less than Steve’s is on The Unz Review.
Does Scott Greer have a local version of Jack D and other auto-approved foghorns collectively accounting for half his comments?
If you took Sailer’s comment section and redacted all those from the Un-mod Squad (or in response to them), leaving only those coming from real people with something to say, you will have reduced its bulk by a very considerable margin.
Such as you, right?
leaving only those coming from real people with something to say
He thinks all Sailer’s smart readers left because Steve doesn’t have the right analysis of Ukraine or Gaza.
Ron runs the website, he has access to all the stats, and he is nothing if not obsessive about his numbers. Even without access to the stats, it’s pretty obvious that Sailer has suffered a large drop-off in readership, since many of the old commenter handles simply don’t show up here anymore. The fact that Steve is basically a fame-hungry midwit with a frog’s eye view of reality was obvious to me since the early ’00s, but it took his total butchering of Covid and Ukraine for his readership to catch up. Stevites have a siege mentality and they will reflexively combat anybody who threatens their hero, but even most of them eventually saw the truth. The only people left on this blog are the true sycophants, the handful of auto-approved blunderbusses, and the standout effort-poster whose name really ought to be in the byline, Jack D.
When Tucker Carlson gives idiotic quips stating that Steve ought to be one of the most famous writers in the world, it’s obvious that he does not know from Adam anything about Steve Sailer or what he has said. Some aid whispered to Tucker that Steve writes about stuff the mainstream journalists don’t say, and that quip just kind of fell together in Tucker’s head. It’s an easy line to come up with, requiring no special insight or familiarity with the subject, only the belief that the subject is getting short shrift from the gatekeepers and powerbrokers.
In fact, Steve does not get short shrift. Everybody in quant journalism knows who he is, if only for his nasty habit of needling them with harassing tweets whenever he needs to up his own profile. Tucker is not in quant journalism, so he thinks Steve is just as unfamiliar to everybody as he is to himself. So, he comes up with a throwaway line that tries to sound sophisticated. If Tucker knew what Steve actually thinks about Covid and Ukraine, he would forget all about him and move on.
You are still here (still spitting venom at the author, apparently because you are sad that the world does not recognize your genius).“Midwit” did you write?Replies: @kaganovitch
The only people left on this blog are the true sycophants, the handful of auto-approved blunderbusses, and the standout effort-poster whose name really ought to be in the byline, Jack D.
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Paul Simon hasn’t written a hit song in over 40 years. His attempt at producing a Broadway musical was a tremendous flop. I think Paul is better off sitting at home and collecting his royalty checks
And then there are the idiot fans with more money than brains, who are willing to pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars to see the aging rock stars on stage, mostly for bragging rights, even if they can’t perform worth a damn. It’s lunacy, but that’s the world for you.
The further we drift in time from the epicenter of rock’n’roll culture, the more obvious it becomes that the whole thing was a bubble. That is not to say that some of the musicians were not talented, but the excessive amount of attention and energy and money that this music absorbed, the staggering influence it had over 1.5-2 generations, is not something that can be explained in terms of any sort of “fundamentals.”
It was a giant cultural distortion that is now on the wane. Someday, perhaps 30 years from now when most of the Boomers are gone and the Xers are too tired from cleaning up their mess, nobody will be left to understand what the big deal was.
It’s nice to hope that future generations will be richer than us so they will easily be able to afford to maintain our follies so that they don’t fall over sideways.
No skyscraper will ever fall over sideways. Once it started to lean, the tortional force in the moment-arm would greatly exceed the sheer strength of the construction materials, so it would just crumple at the axis of rotation and then fall straight down from there. Skyscrapers are not trees.
In point of fact, all skyscrapers are time bomb structures, not just the weird-looking ones. The basic physical principles involved in this type of building introduce certain problems that cannot be mitigated. They are inherent in the very nature of the thing.
The reason why large portions of the Flavian Amphitheater are still standing after 2000 years is because its construction relied on the static principles of support and load to provide stability. Because it’s made of stone and held together by gravity, it cannot really fall apart. It is already in a least-energy configuration, so it basically ages no faster than a pile of rock—which it is.
On the other hand, skyscrapers are held together by the dynamic tension of structural steel members distributing forces to one another. A skyscraper has more in common with a suspension bridge than it does with the Coliseum. There is a lot of live tension in the structure, and it is most definitely not in a least-energy configuration. This means that when it fails, it will fail catastrophically. There is no other way it can be. The live forces will cause it to warp and buckle, and they will pull the whole building down around itself.
Every one of these structures is going to come crashing down within the next two or three centuries if it is not deliberately dismantled first. This is going to be a serious problem for the world going forward.
There was no ship. It was obviously a controlled demolition. No steel-frame bridge ever collapsed into its own footprint at freefall speed. Even professional marine pilots admit that they couldn’t have hit that pile if they tried. There were no Jews driving over the bridge at 1:30 AM. Larry Silverstein said “pull it.”
~Shipwrights and Helmsmen for 3/26 Truth
I expect whomever insured that ship is in a state of shock and dismay as well.
It sounds like a lady near the camera expressing shock and dismay.
Can anyone comment on how much insurance foreign-flagged vessels are required to carry when working out of US ports? One would hope that, in addition to the loss of life (which is irreplaceable), the US taxpayers are not going to be lumbered with a gargantuan bill for damage inflicted by a foreign vessel.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @William Badwhite, @Daniel H, @Reg Cæsar, @pyrrhus
The ship involved, Dali, is a Singapore-registered container ship.
Can anyone comment on how much insurance foreign-flagged vessels are required to carry when working out of US ports?
The nation of registry does not have sweet fuck all to do with how much liability insurance the ship carries. That would be an affair for the owners and their counterparties.
Nobody has mentioned Kyle Turley yet, so I will.
I dimly recall that he was part of some kind of reality show back in the early 2000s that teamed up NFL players with professional recording artists and had them compete in a music contest. I have no idea what the hell the show was called. I remember that Turley was part of it, and Michelle Branch, and the Gramatica brothers were also there. I can’t remember anything else, and I can’t find anything about it on the internet, but I know it happened. Maybe someone else will have better luck.
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How would you know (that Ohtani seems like a good guy). He doesn’t speak English
Further, the psychological studies tell us that you can judge a lot about a person’s sociability by his appearance and overt conduct.
Sociability is appearance and overt conduct. This is like saying you can judge a lot about a person’s solvency from their financial statements.
Mark, if I may, I don’t think Bill Buckley ever was much of an ideologue. His conservatism was more of a class preference, and I doubt he ever had even a notion of having a career as pundit. The fact that he spent his last years living courtier’s life does not surprise me in the least.
For my part, I do appreciate writers like that. Conservatism is not so much a doctrinaire philosophy as it is a compendium of tales of a far green country.
though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.
Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely “eject” from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you’ll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you’ll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.
TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.
You didn’t like the part where they showed the highway to the danger zone?
It was absolutely awful.
One out of five naval aviators is female. All the air crew in the Navy flyover at the Superbowl (four F/A-18s and an F-35) were women.
TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.
Thanks. I appreciate your reply, and I agree with you about the movement.
From iSteve commenter jb:
No offense to jb, but this has always been the argument for Affirmative Action. If this needs explication, it makes me wonder what everyone else here thought they were arguing with. Singling this out for special attention in 2024 is lightyears behind the curve.
I know you like to think lockdowns killed everyone, and don’t really care that the data doesn’t support that or your long list of other conspiracy memes
The data supports the contention that the vast majority of “Covid” deaths were iatrogenic. This was discussed here already when a paper linked to by Steve admitted, in a very roundabout way, that people admitted to hospital and placed on ventilators died at an elevated rate irrespective of prior Covid diagnosis.
The Covid epidemic really ought to be called the ventilator and remdesivir epidemic, because that’s what did the actual killing. This, of course, is entirely consistent with deaths tracking 1-2 weeks after hospital admittance.
Is that clear enough for you? Remember that story about Elon Musk sending ventilators? That was from MARCH of 2020. I know a Nietzschean fanboy like you loves the Elon Musks of the world -- slavishly parroting his memes the way you do -- and doing that again here, but let's get another take:
Apr 8 2020: With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19...Even as hospitals and governors raise the alarm about a shortage of ventilators, some critical care physicians are questioning the widespread use of the breathing machines for Covid-19 patients, saying that large numbers of patients could instead be treated with less intensive respiratory support.Apr 9 2020: Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients
Apr 16 2020: Why Ventilators May Not Be Working as Well for COVID-19 Patients as Doctors HopedApr 23 2020: Special Report: As virus advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate...
The article is a detailed rundown of how the truthers are grasping at ventilators as their new rationale for explaining how they were somehow right all along, but it's not going to work outside your little echo chamber. Too many people were paying attention. The fact that someone like Mike Tre needs the likes of you to try and rehabilitate his finger-pointing tells us all we need to know about how desperate the truthers are for white knights, but sorry, Wittkowski is still out, and Berenson and Malone are still disgraced, and don't try rehabilitating Hail either, him and his "eye-catching spikes". Do better.So, it seems clear that once Trump loses (or runs out his 2nd term), the fanboys are going to start worshipping Musk as their new messiah, am I right? Good thing he was born in South Africa and ineligible for the presidency, but I guess he might try paying off enough lawmakers to get that changed, which would be especially ironic given how convinced Trump was that Obama was born in Kenya, but then, no one ever accused him and his followers of being consistent. The rules only apply to other people.
Elon Musk’s claim that ventilators killed COVID-19 patients confuses correlation with causation... Flawed reasoning: Ventilators are only used on patients who are the most ill. As such, patients on ventilators have a greater risk of dying compared to patients who aren’t. Claiming that ventilators caused COVID-19 patients to die because a great many number of patients on ventilators die conflates correlation with causation.
white fibrous clots
Uncontrolled nucleic acid replication isn’t good for you.

Also, if one is going to worry about qualification, what about those who got into medical school as a legacy or the child of a physician? Does one worry about that?
Yes, I worry about all of it. You have to avoid hospitals if possible and, if it is not possible, make sure you do your due diligence and speak up if you’re uncomfortable with anything, including the doctor.
Some of this stuff is starting to seem backward-looking. Affirmative Action is not long for this world, anyway. The Supreme Court already put a big crack in the edifice, and the younger generations are opposed to it and indifferent to the controversies of the Civil Rights era. It’s on the way out, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
I agree with all the posters who have risen to the defense of DPM. He was pretty clear-eyed about the politics, and his words have to be measure against the backdrop of the cultural atmosphere at the time. In that respect, he was fairly outspoken.
I think you underestimate the willful blindness of "our" elites. I see no evidence that affirmative action is going away. They will continue to double down on it. Regardless of what the USSC says. And in another 10-20 years, after the deaths/departures of justices such as Alito and Thomas, the new justices, who all will be appointed by Democratic presidents, will overrule the recent affirmative action decision. Because of the immigration invasion coupled with birthright citizenship, the entire country will be like California politically, and all future Presidents and Congresses will be Democratic controlled. Until the whole system implodes.
"Affirmative Action is not long for this world, anyway. The Supreme Court already put a big crack in the edifice, and the younger generations are opposed to it and indifferent to the controversies of the Civil Rights era. It’s on the way out, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it."
I agree there are many contributing factors to the birth dearth, but they are all more in the way of concurring symptom than of cause. None of these things would be prohibitive if people really wanted more children, in which case they would just keep doing what nature intended and carry on. In the last analysis, the babies are not born because they are not wanted.
On a side note, birth rates around the world are crashing much quicker than the UN or national governments predicted, which means that devastating socioeconomic problems and unnatural demographic transitions are much closer than anybody really understands. A lot of people still operate with a mental model that fears overpopulation is about to destroy us. Even most informed people who follow such things do not seem really to have taken it to heart. Nobody is ready for what’s coming.
Art Deco is right.
It was commonly understood in the past that small families decrease not only the quantity but also the quality of the stock. The ideal situation is to grow up in a large, extended family with plenty of siblings and cousins, surrounded by kinsfolk of all different ages. This way, you develop good emotional adjustment when young and you learn by osmosis all the skills you need for practical life, including the skills of managing a large family of your own someday.
Now, I am not an HBDer, but if I was one, I would be extremely upset about this, since one of the main policies of the kind of people drawn to HBD is to increase the numbers and the confidence of the white race. Large families do both and are the only way of doing either, so Steve’s take on this is just another item in a long list of truly bizarre opinions which his stupidly loyal minions continue to overlook.
If Covid, Ukraine, and “Deaths of Exuberance” are not enough to clue people in about who Steve Sailer really is, then maybe the idea that white only-children are great because it leads to more presents at Christmas will finally do it. If even that doesn’t work, then this place is pretty much hopeless.
You can miss out on developmental opportunities in a large family, especially the middle children. The oldest and youngest typically have more attention given to them. Happened to me and to the children in my own family but as you said the emotional adjustments and the absorption of skills and I’ll tack on, attitudes, are things that take place naturally. The only piece of parenting advice I got from my father was to try and only have four and that was so you got to enjoy more time with each of them.
The ideal situation is to grow up in a large, extended family with plenty of siblings and cousins, surrounded by kinsfolk of all different ages. This way, you develop good emotional adjustment when young and you learn by osmosis all the skills you need for practical life, including the skills of managing a large family of your own someday.
His first statement is incomprehensible and then he follows that up with a non sequitur.
Art Deco is right.
The idea there is: it's more fun to be an only child. I say that's true. You get more presents for Christmas and for your birthday. You get to spend a higher fraction of your time with a wide variety of friends instead of siblings. You have more quiet time to read. It's at the very least a lot less bizarre to contend that than to fail to notice that Biden and his advisers colluded with the people in charge of Ukraine to provoke the current war in that country.
If Covid, Ukraine, and “Deaths of Exuberance” are not enough to clue people in about who Steve Sailer really is, then maybe the idea that white only-children are great because it leads to more presents at Christmas will finally do it.
with computer nerds who lack the gene for sexual jealousy demanding “polyamory”
There is not a gene for sexual jealousy. That is a very simplistic and erroneous conception of what genetics is about, even by modern biology’s own lights. I expect as much from HBDers, but this is truly “Lance Welton” levels of scientific illiteracy. I will be very telling of the characters of the others on this board if nobody else objects to this, so let’s wait and see what happens.
Who will you be telling?
I will be very telling of the characters of the others on this board if nobody else objects to this, so let’s wait and see what happens.
Certainly. Here is the direct link to Oswald Spengler’s The Decline of the West, Volume II, page 295, where begins the section on reformations.
The work is magisterial and, depending on how much you want to read, would be quite informative with respect to your request.
I have to say, after 270-someodd comments, I think this thing is getting seriously overblown. To me, it doesn’t look like some nefarious plot to erase white people from history. It looks like a severe limitation in the software combined with a lack of foresight on the part of Google. It being the Current Year, it was inevitable that the image-generator was going to be programmed to display a diverse population whenever a human image was called for, but nobody at Google had the imagination to realize the many comical situations this would produce, nor is the program actually sophisticated enough to provide historically accurate imagery from just a short natural language prompt. In other words, it is a very limited tool being deployed by very limited people. Not much else to see here.
This is either laughably naive or intentionally misleading. "Lack of foresight..." This is criminally hilarious. Do you think the top Googlers are blind to race? So "it's just a social construct" and they just plug in the "race" feature by filling that in with Blacks!? Non Whites are just more interesting? To date there has been a surprising Radio Silence from the Media Narrative Minders about how "racist" this AI is in fact. So by "racist" I'm meaning anti Black!. If Google's bias was randomly stupid we'd see the all White NBA squads named "Jamal" et. al. But instead, Whites are just disappeared, South African style. You can bet job # 1 was to eliminate reality when it made anyone look bad but Whites. Do you think nobody at Google Beta tested this thing? "Why are the American Founding Fathers all female and Black?" This is just the infamous "I'm Stupid" defense. Or maybe Google is too poor to properly Beta test their Next Big Thing. Maybe you should start a GoFundMe for them...
To me, it doesn’t look like some nefarious plot to erase white people from history. It looks like a severe limitation in the software combined with a lack of foresight on the part of Google.
Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.
I'll have to respectfully take the other side on those.
Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.
This is you being ignorant of Islam and the fissures within it.
Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.
If https://willstancil.com/ was poached a few weeks ago, why does it only show up as having been been archived for just the last couple of days?
Websites are only archived at those moments when they are crawled by a bot or deliberately scanned in by a human. It doesn’t happen continuously. The timelines at the top of Wayback Machine pages are a visual representation of said.
We’re in desperate need of a Reformation of sorts in media, search engines and education, both K-12 and universities.
Would you like a little powder for that Whig, Lord Cromwell? What you’re bemoaning in these institutions is precisely the fruits of the first reformation, so calling for another one does not make a great deal of sense. If you were really interested in truth, you would be calling for a Catholic Restoration, not lurching in the opposite direction based on the predictable historiography of HBD-believing ass-idiots.
An AI is not an oracle, it is a Rube Goldberg contraption for generating fiction. People have always enjoyed reading and writing fiction, which often serves as a vehicle for fantastical beliefs. AI is not an exception is this regard; it simply reflects the intentions of its authors. A little sense of proportion will let you know where most fiction ends up. If it doesn’t have endearing human qualities and a transcendent moral point, it is simply forgotten.
It’s okay, Buzz, there’s always a place for you here among us reality-based commenters who aren’t part of Steve Sailer’s reputational plunge protection team. You never really did fit in at that lunch table, anyway. Perhaps you’ll even feel free to speak your mind a bit more now.
LOL.
among us reality-based commenters
LOL this was my first thought as well.
My first thought upon seeing the headline was, “Lee Marvin was still alive?” Then I saw the tombstone dates.
James Tolkan is 92.
He was great in the Back to the Future series as well as Masters of the Universe, a very underappreciated ’80s feelgood action flick with Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella, a smoking hot Chelsea Field, not to mention a very early appearance by Courteney Cox.
Does Steve not understand what these papers show, or is he unable to explain it in plain English?
Steve does not understand anything about this. He has the scientific acumen of a 12-year-old girl, which is not that unusual for an HBD blogger, although it deviates quite a bit from the beliefs and expectations of his audience. Of course, 90% of the commenters here do not understand the paper either and are waiting on res to explain it to them, and Jack D to explain the explanation.
As usual, you vastly overestimate your own intelligence and knowledge and grossly underestimate those of others here.
Steve does not understand anything about this. He has the scientific acumen of a 12-year-old girl, which is not that unusual for an HBD blogger, although it deviates quite a bit from the beliefs and expectations of his audience. Of course, 90% of the commenters here do not understand the paper either and are waiting on res to explain it to them, and Jack D to explain the explanation.
and somehow you interpreted that to mean I am some kind of egalitarian/libertarian when I said nothing of the kind.
Please be advised that “John Johnson” is a fake account, a honeypot, and anything he says is simply in the interest of gathering information, or trying to incite you to say or do something that might incriminate yourself. John Johnson belongs to the Gretchen Whitmer Kidnappers-R-Us organizations and is not to be trusted. Do not engage with him.
What is your evidence for this?Replies: @John Johnson
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You are a good man and a just, Ennui. Thank you for saying this, and I hope you keep saying it no matter how thickheaded the other commenters are.
conservatives still hold out for homosexuality being a choice.
Conservatives and Christians have never said that homosexual inclination is a choice. We say that homosexual activity is a choice, which it is.
By the same token, heterosexual activity is a choice, but except for those with a (Catholic) religious calling we don't expect people with a heterosexual inclination to remain celibate.
We say that homosexual activity is a choice, which it is.
How does that work? How do you ensure you don’t hit bystanders? What if you cause the car you’re pursuing to lose control and it wipes out into a bus-stop full of people?
The cops these days have just as little concern for collateral damage as the criminals do. They’re “doing their job,” and will be protected by the unions and the courts.
In contrast, while feminism has insisted they be treated the same, the female teacher that starts sexting the 16 year old boy who is hot for her, eventually leading to the “invitation over” and him banging her … does pretty much nothing,
You are a disgusting, despicable old pervert—you and Reg Caesar and all the other eldering faggots on this site who obsess about this topic.
Young men have feelings, too. If you do not think it is possible for an older woman to manipulate and severely wound a young man and break his heart, you know nothing about the human condition. This is not even to mention the possibility of pressing him into early fatherhood or inciting him to commit murder or other crimes of passion. It is also not to mention the feelings of the husbands and children these women betray with their young lovers.
You are a simp, a pervert, and a fool. Begone with you, and take your minoritarian monotony with you.
0:34 of that video there shows a black news lady talking into the camera in the studio. I'm not sure if that's what you meant to refer to. I watched the part of the video that actually shows the tackling of the suspect, but I can't make out any details other than the fact that the suspect is not wearing a red sweatsuit.The red sweatsuit guy definitely seems to be one of the three persons of interest, though.Replies: @res
See 0:34 of the video here.
Sorry. I should have specified the second video at that link. The one in portrait mode which appears shot from a smartphone.
Thanks for following up. Here is the link again.
https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-man-helped-tackle-shooter-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-parade/46791250
The person in that video appears to be wearing a light colored hoodie and is lying on the ground surrounded by police. 0:34 is a pretty good look at him.
From just above that video.
A Bellevue man helped tackle one of the alleged shooters and police have three people in custody.
See 0:34 of the video here.
0:34 of that video there shows a black news lady talking into the camera in the studio. I’m not sure if that’s what you meant to refer to. I watched the part of the video that actually shows the tackling of the suspect, but I can’t make out any details other than the fact that the suspect is not wearing a red sweatsuit.
The red sweatsuit guy definitely seems to be one of the three persons of interest, though.
A Bellevue man helped tackle one of the alleged shooters and police have three people in custody.
Conversely, Time magazine argued in 1971 that El Paso’s low crime rate was due to lithium in the groundwater sedating manic-depressives. Has that idea been vindicated or debunked over the past 53 years?
Anybody who would entertain this theory for even one millisecond is not someone whose opinions on any subject are worth the toilet paper it would take to wipe them out of the dog’s jowls.
Also, Paul looks and acts like a kid on a middle school basketball team. Void of the charisma required for plot trajectory.
And the strange thing is, at the age of 28, Timothée Chalamet is almost twice the age of Paul Atreides and still doesn’t convey any of the gravitas.
My problem with the new Dune was that many scenes were highly, highly reminiscent of the David Lynch version, and those that weren’t you could tell were self-consciously trying not to be, which only resulted in an inferior product. It made you realize what a fantastic job Lynch did in the first go-round. Kyle MacLachlan really was an excellent choice to play Paul. I have a hard time thinking of anyone else who could do it.
Villeneuve criminally underused Stellan Skarsgård in the role of the Baron. A great actor, but they didn’t have him do anything. They might as well have used the caterer.
Unlike many people, I liked the David Lynch version. I wish, though, he hadn't distorted the space travel aspect (the Guild Navigators don't fold space, they just predict where the ships can go safely ahead) and come up with the stupid "weirding module" (weirding way is simply the maximal development of the human - psychologically and biologically - combined with the most efficient fighting techniques (it's like super-MMA athlete development).But the cast is absolutely stellar in Lynch's version: Kyle MachLachlan, Francessca Annis (I cannot see anyone else as Jessica), Jürgen Prochnow, Everett McGill, Alica Witt, Max von Sydow, Dean Stockwell, Sian Phillips, Linda Hunt, Brad Dourif, Kenneth MacMillan, I mean it just keeps going. I think Sting was the only misfire in the casting.Thanks in large part to the acting, the Lynch version is operatic whereas as the new version, as slick with CGI it is, comes off like a moneyed-up SciFi channel version (though the SciFI channel version of the Dune Messiah and Children of Dune was pretty good, thanks to James McAvoy and Alice Krige though Susan Sarandon almost ruined it).https://youtu.be/xUWSAYKE_v0?si=HoOW7I2JirFMGYAZhttps://youtu.be/0ujoXRAZU3g?si=40qSzWrE6f66MaZo
highly reminiscent of the David Lynch version
Just masterful
I have no words left to express how low you have fallen in my esteem, you blood-thirsty creep.
That factoid is chilling--and nation killing. But most people don't even understand what it means.
We are now literally taking in as many or almost as many immigrants, legal and illegal, as Americans are having children each year. I doubt a single Republican elected official has given any consideration to the demographic consequences of such immigration rates.
We are now literally taking in as many or almost as many immigrants, legal and illegal, as Americans are having children each year. I doubt a single Republican elected official has given any consideration to the demographic consequences of such immigration rates.
That factoid is chilling–and nation killing. But most people don’t even understand what it means.
The reality, most people just aren’t mathematical thinkers–beyond sort of the basic “80,000/year is more than 60,000/year” thinking. And even less ideas which involve rates, growth and what that means for the future. And our verbalist ruling class–with exceptions like Chuck Schummer–are really just “most people” in these matters.
On the contrary, AnotherDad, I think it’s exactly the opposite way around. In the bowels of the deeps of the Deep State, there are plenty of quants working for government agencies—economists and demographers and the like—who have a very precise, analytical, mathematical, and actuarial sense of exactly what it all means. I wrote about this 7 years ago here and again more recently here. I call it the Export-Land Model of imigration, which is akin to the Export-Land Model of petroleum extracting countries.
The immigrant-sending counties treat their emigrating population very much like a natural resource they are exporting. In return for this, they get a steady supply of cash in the form of remittances, foreign aid, and NGO assistance. This relieves some of the pressure on their own domestic social services, and their ruling elites use the cash to maintain themselves in power. On the other side of the ledger, the USA is willing to overpay for these immigrants in order to keep its own population numbers up. The quants know that our 50 years of sub-replacement would by now have resulted in very skewed dependency ratio and an extremely tight labor market which would have made the imperial business-as-usual (i.e. borrowing abroad to fund the empire) absolutely impossible. The immigrants keep the wheels turning so that the circus can continue.
But there is a natural limit to this. In the Export-Land Model of petroleum exporting, an oil exporting country continues to experience rising domestic demand even as its production peaks, such that a point is reached when exports fall off much faster than production does. The same thing will happen with immigration. The sending countries will start to revalue their population because they are losing too many of their own young workers and breeders and their own dependency ratios are going to skew out of control. At the same time, the USA’s influence is waning and we are not as able to “overpay” for immigrants anymore. When the value of remittances no longer exceeds the value added by domestic labor, it seizes up the immigrant pipeline.
This will happen soon. The Biden border fiasco is the last immigrant wave we will ever see. After that, welcome to the joyful world of beggar-thy-neighbor protectionism.
How soon is that "soon"?
This will happen soon. The Biden border fiasco is the last immigrant wave we will ever see. After that, welcome to the joyful world of beggar-thy-neighbor protectionism.
Only if voters suddenly come to their senses and decide to close the spigot. There are plenty of people who would love to come here. So long as we are better than other countries, there always will be. When people stop wanting to come…it is only because we have sunk to their level. We have a very long way to fall before people stop wanting to come.
The Biden border fiasco is the last immigrant wave we will ever see.
Meanwhile the Christian west,
The post-Christian West.
The Christian “West,” i.e. Christendom, is dead and gone, although Christianity is not.
No Christian can continue to identify with the decomposing blob that is the end state of Western civilization, and it’s time they understood that. Christianity has survived the collapse of empires before, and it will again.
"And why was that? Did it turn out that blacks, say, tended to be faster, better jumpers, better at running backwards, and so forth? And why were they better? Was it their genes?"
"At some point, white players stopped believing they could fly. "
This is correct.
Similarly, there was a point I was trying to make last time the conversation turned to sprinting. There are those who think that the fact that 79 out of the last 80 Olympic 100M gold medalists (or whatever it was) are black, somehow collimates into a strong argument for HBD.
I, in turn, ask the question: HBD in respect of what, exactly? Because it cannot come down to any important differences between giant racial aggregates like ‘white’ and ‘black’.
Once you plane off the top 80 sprinters in the world and look at the next tier, you will find that there are thousands upon thousands of white sprinters in the world who have never won an Olympic medal but are only a fraction of a second slower than the winners, and also that these thousands of white guys are faster than 99.99% of all the blacks who have ever lived.
So, is sprinting a race trait? No. The very fastest sprinters come from some collection of people who also happen to be black, but that ability does not extend to the majority of blacks, and it very quickly spreads to include whites and other races, too.
Now, let’s say we took some of those fast whites and trained them to be NFL cornerbacks. Does anyone really think that their fraction-of-a-second slower maximum speed could not be made up for by other qualities in a position that requires a lot of other all-around athleticism and play-reading ability?
Of course, it could. And this means that there is a vast, untapped pool of white cornerback talent that the NFL refuses to make use of, and I’m sure a lot of these guys would be willing to play for a lot less money, too. Steve does not even think about this, despite apparently priding himself on being the Moneyball noticer of race world.
But we have to go deeper to understand what is motivating all of this. Evidently the NFL does not feel like it is necessary to drive a hard bargain. It does not try to scoop up the best talent for the least amount of money, as it would if the players were actually selling their skills to their employer in a free labor market. Instead, it extracts rents from fans, advertisers, and taxpayers and it uses the proceeds to reward the people it favors. It’s a palace economy, not a market. The player positions are sinecures. Except in a few critical positions like quarterback, where the lack of talent would be too obvious and too fatal, the spots go to the people whom the bosses prefer.
You do not need to be the “best of the best” to play in the NFL. You need to meet a certain minimum (albeit high) level of athletic ability, and be a favored demographic, and be willing to toe the line on the NFL’s political positions, and this is easier done with a high percentage of black players. This is why players are paid “above market” rates—they are being rewarded for their compliance. And if you find that political appointees are particularly overrepresented in a certain position (like cornerback), that is prima facie evidence that that position is among the least important on the team.
How do we know what was done "before recorded history"?Fine, I forgot the middle east. So they had their cheeses too. Good for them. That is part of their culinary tradition, and they didn't imagine that either.
Absolute garbage. It is a well-known fact that cheese has been eaten since before recorded history throughout the Middle East, Egypt, the Levant, and North Africa, as well as in Europe.
In my case, it was an oversight - a mistake. Why do you say all the false things that you say?Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
I don’t know why you would say something like that, which is so widely known to be false.
In my case, it was an oversight – a mistake. Why do you say all the false things that you say?
I don’t say “false” things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing.
In this case, however, your oversight reveals a massive depth of cultural ignorance that is just inexcusable. Even if you have never watched a documentary on the history of cheesemaking, or been curious enough to just google it, you still must have missed the fact that cheese is mentioned in the Old Testament, in the Iliad and Odyssey, and in written texts going all the way back to ancient Sumer. The physical evidence for cheese making predates the written evidence, hence “before recorded history.”
This bottomless cultural ignorance is a common trait of HBD types. Their lack of sophistication is part of the reason why they end up believing a theory so ridiculous. Steve Sailer is actually taken by many to be a science blogger, and considers himself entitled to pontificate on the finer points of genetic analysis, yet he does not even know what the commutative property is or how to calculate the period of a pendulum.
Ah, I see that you are an insufferable smug douchebag. I won't waste any further time reading your tripe.Replies: @res
I don’t say “false” things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing.
"And you can believe me, because I never lie, and I'm always right."
I don’t say “false” things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing.
Oh, sure, he only said it "may" happen, as in "monkeys may fly out of my backside and force Germany to surrender to Russia", but again, you tell me how well that one went down or whether he was not quite as clear as could be.Here he is back on Sep 7:
We may see, before the end of 2023, Germany simply “surrender” to Russia and become Eurasian partner country, while the rest of the West flounders around in an increasingly delusional post-imperial death spiral.
And note, that wasn't last September 7th -- it was actually the one a year before that. We can argue about how well Ukraine is doing, but for better or worse, it was pretty much the same country in September as it was in August. As I recall, Intelligent Dasein also claims to be a traditional Catholic, or at least he once did, despite his apologias for Nietzsche and the stuff about how:
Well, perhaps it wasn’t a real country back then. I’m no expert on Ukrainian history. But it is now. In 72 hours, it won't be...bad stuff's about to go down.
Yeah, watch out for those "traditional patriarchial societies" -- we all know traditional Catholics are very much opposed to any of that. I mean, in the Bible, God is quoted as saying "I will still be carrying you when you are old. Your hair will turn gray, and I will still carry you", but ID knows better than God about what needs to be done with old people. THAT's how much of a Catholic Traditionalist he is -- he's not just more Catholic than the Pope; he's more Catholic than God himself. And when it comes to not being quite as clear about that as he should be, don't get him started on how "the meta of a meta is a solipsism…"
I think the main factor (and this would account for the evil affecting traditional patriarchal as well as Westernized societies) is that too many people are surviving to old age.
If you ask me, a lot of things literally only exist in ID's imagination.
You are analyzing a hyperreality, a copy of a copy with no original…the Western powers, are thinking about this whole affair as an information war, and an information war is already itself a metalogical take on a real situation… But when you start talking about how the CIA is performing in the information war, as if that were a substantial reality in its own right, then you’ve taken a metalogical take on metalogical construct, and the meta of a meta is a solipsism… The simulacrum of an information war that you are analyzing exists literally only in your imagination…
I find all this anti-“seed oil” stuff confusing and irritating.
You are correct, Charlotte. For some reason, many of the internet ass-lords of the vitalist Alt-Right have taken to condemning “seed oils” for interfering with their precious bodily fluids. The whole thing is stupid in the extreme. For one thing, they are broadly condemning almost every edible oil that exists. Do you know of any other type of oil that is not a “seed oil”? Basically all that remains after you have removed oil seeds is animal fat and avocado, olive, and coconut oils, which are oily fruits. That isn’t enough oil to cover every application. The incorporation of inexpensive seed oils into the food stream has been a great boon to mankind.
My mother’s choice was peanut oil–and I agree.
Absolutely. Peanut oil is my preferred choice for frying at home. Especially in stir-fries, it adds a velvety texture to the finished dish that you just don’t get from other oils.
I don’t even know what “canola oil” is. What’s a “canola”?
The word canola is a contraction of Canadian Oil, Low Acid. It is produced from rapeseed, a plant similar to mustards and cabbages. The cultivars used for the food-grade oil production have been bred to have low levels of erucic acid, which formerly limited this oil’s use as a food product.