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  • @Hypnotoad666
    @Hypnotoad666

    Just for fun, here's an engineer doing some backyard experiments to debunk the debunkers about the steel cutting properties of thermite.

    https://youtu.be/5d5iIoCiI8g?si=l-of6BOIC63K8h_D

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    I am not sure what your point is with this video. Nobody who knows what he (or she) is talking about has ever doubted the general proposition that “thermite can melt steel,” since thermite is routinely used for just that very purpose in a number of industrial settings, especially for the cutting and welding of railroad tracks (an everyday occurrence in track maintenance). This is common knowledge for anyone with a smattering of experience in these matters, so I’m not sure why anyone would feel it necessary to make a homespun video to prove it. It’s bizarre.

    This brings up a point I have made before concerning 9/11 Truthers: they don’t seem to have stable notions of reality, nor are they contextually aware of who knows what about whom. Consequently, they do not track events in any kind of rational manner. While I don’t want to resort to ad hominem like they typically do when challenged about their narratives, it still must be said that…

    • If you do not already know that thermite melts steel…
    • And if you do not already know that this is common knowledge, and consequently already known to me…
    • And since known to me, already factored into my appraisal of the events of 9/11…
    • And likewise known to anyone else with the requisite qualifications to work for the NIIST and conduct investigations on their behalf…
    • And therefore believe that videos such as this one spring forth with novel information on the subject, then…

    …Then not only are you wrong in this particular theory, but there is something very wrong with the whole global architecture of your thought-forming process. You are, in fact, “not even wrong,” as the phrase has it. You are living in a parallel tabloid universe of Fortean facts and unrealities. This has been the 9/11 Truther movement from the beginning, and it is horrible that it has lasted as long as it has.

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  • @Hypnotoad666
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Both the Truthers and the NIST fail to properly account for the seismic effects that would have afflicted the near vicinity of Ground Zero during the collapse of the first two towers.
     
    That's insane. Has any steel frame building ever just free fall dropped into its own footprint a couple hours *after* an earthquake? And your theory is that all the buildings were just coincidentally filled with steel-cutting explosives residue?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Intelligent Dasein

    That’s insane. Has any steel frame building ever just free fall dropped into its own footprint a couple hours *after* an earthquake?

    Uh…yes. There is plenty of precedent for such things, especially in the presence of concurring secondary causes such as fires and structural damage, both of which pertain to WTC-7’s collapse. For example, the United States Geological Survey’s study of the 1906 San Franciso earthquake contains some descriptions that sound exactly like WTC-7, avant la lettre.

    The Chronicle buildings, corner of Market and Kearney streets, comprised an old ten-story structure and a new fifteen-story annex that was in process of construction, both shown in PL XXX, B. The old building consisted of steel beams and protected cast-iron columns, with self-supporting walls, which had a brownstone front up to the second story and were ornamented with terra cotta above. The floor was of hollow tile, filled with cinder concrete and covered with wood. The cast-iron columns were fireproofed Avith 3-inch hollow tile, and 4-inch hollow tile Avas used for the partitions. The terracotta partitions and fireproofing entirely collapsed. The building appeared to have stood the earthquake shock, and received its principal damage through the fire. The collapse of the western section of the building was probably due to the buckling of the cast-iron columns.

    The seven-story L-shaped Kamm Building, on Market street, west of the Call Building and adjacent to it on two sides, had a steel skeleton and self-supporting sandstone walls. The floors were of reenforced stone concrete, covered with wood, with hollow partitions and suspended ceilings of plastered wire lath, the steel columns, beams, and girders being also fireproofed with plastered wire lath. The rear structure collapsed when a number of columns in the basement buckled under the intense heat produced by the burning wallpaper, of which there was a large quantity stored in the basement.

    [Note that WTC-7 had a tank of diesel fuel in its own basement.]

    So, while this is not typical, it does happen under certain conditions, which were present at the WTC-7 collapse. The failure of Building 7 can be neatly explained by ordinary structural damage, fire, and seismic shifting, without recourse to any controlled demolition.

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    @Intelligent Dasein

    Old buildings with a mixture of steel, cast iron and masonry that fell down *during* the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake or burned in the fire afterward are not really on point to a modern steel frame skyscraper (with the steel wrapped in insulation) that drops into its own footprint.


    The failure of Building 7 can be neatly explained by ordinary structural damage, fire, and seismic shifting, without recourse to any controlled demolition.
     
    Not hardly. In fact, no modern steel frame building in the history of the world has ever collapsed that way from an office fire. (Which is why architects and regulators have never changed the building codes or standards to protect against another WTC7 -- because they know such a collapse could never actually happen from a regular fire). But I won't argue it further if you are satisfied with your theory.

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  • @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks ID! I share the same respect. I have your book and plan to start it once it gets slower at work.

    My employer thinks this is Alabama and I'm his cotton pickin'... well, you know.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Cool, man! Take your time and enjoy it. I would greatly appreciate any feedback, if you feel up to it. I’m sure a review from you would be fair and perceptive. Have a great day!

  • @Hypnotoad666
    @Mr. Anon


    No, it wasn’t. Stephen Jones paper was garbage. I’ve read it. Have you?
     
    Try to use your words, Anon. I bet you can do it if you try. I cited you to a scientific analysis with pictures of the nano-thermite, chemical test results, and the sampling process for collecting it. You obviously have an emotional desire not to believe the data. But you've got to do better than just saying "garbage" if you want to have an opinion that anyone gives a shit about. Give it a try.

    Why do you think the 9-11 dust was full of nano-thermite?


    Have you ever seen a piece of welded steel? It is often festooned with little metal spherules that are thrown off during the welding process.
     
    Yes. Welded steel can have weld marks. That's got nothing to do with melted micro spheres mixed throughout all the debris dust. Did you once see a steel beam? Does anyone in the world agree with your personal made up "festooned" theory. Because even the government apparently thought that was too dumb to use as an explanation.

    WTC1 and WTC2 were brought down because big f**king airplanes full of jet fuel crashed into them.
     
    Very good, Anon. "Big Airplanes go boom, boom." We all saw that. But no big airplane went boom boom into WTC 7 and it fell down the same way. What's your explanation? Did WTC 7 just die out of sympathy for its sister towers?

    The reason it's so easy to cover things up is because there so many over-emotional, stupid people who are incapable of evaluating evidence.

    I don't even want to know what you think "really" happened. I can only imagine how dumb that theory must be.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Anon

    But no big airplane went boom boom into WTC 7 and it fell down the same way. What’s your explanation? Did WTC 7 just die out of sympathy for its sister towers?

    I have answered this question numerous times over the years, but nobody pays any attention to it. The 9/11 Truthers just go blithely on with their theory as if no one has nullified their principal point of contention.

    Both the Truthers and the NIST fail to properly account for the seismic effects that would have afflicted the near vicinity of Ground Zero during the collapse of the first two towers. The fluidized subsurface (rumbling during the collapse itself) and subsequent subsidence into the old basements (now craters) would have destabilized any structure in the area, but there were also two sharp shocks of translational motion that would have lifted and shifted WTC-7 by a fraction of inch, creating stress point and shear points across every support column in basically the same location. Once the fires had further weakened the steel in the fabled Column 79 area, it was perfectly natural for the building to twist and slump, snapping every other column at the same time, which is exactly what we saw.

    In short, it is completely fallacious to say that WTC-7 was unaffected by any exploding airplanes. It had two massive “earthquake bombs” (so to speak) dropped right next to it, of the same sort that have been used with great effect since WWII. The Bielefeld viaduct was famously destroyed in a similar manner, despite “never being hit” by the Tallboy.

    “Remember 9/11 Truthers, no bomb ever hit the Bielefeld viaduct!”

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    @Intelligent Dasein


    Both the Truthers and the NIST fail to properly account for the seismic effects that would have afflicted the near vicinity of Ground Zero during the collapse of the first two towers.
     
    That's insane. Has any steel frame building ever just free fall dropped into its own footprint a couple hours *after* an earthquake? And your theory is that all the buildings were just coincidentally filled with steel-cutting explosives residue?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Intelligent Dasein

  • Author’s note: The caption “Entartete Musik” featured on this and other images means “degenerate music.” This along with greater condemnations of degenerate art were a prominent platform position of a certain political movement in the past. Some readers may recognize the stylized lettering from a certain progpaganda poster as well. The cultural milieu any individual...
  • “What kind of music do you listen to?” has become an obligatory question that newly acquainted Americans ask each other when getting to know one another. It’s supposed to be a way of feeling one another out and assessing personalities. Of course, I myself never have an answer when somebody asks me that (or at least not a simple and unqualified answer). To me, the question of what kind of pop music someone listens to is of far less importance than the fact that they listen to any pop music at all, because I never listen to any of this stuff.

    Rather, I should say I never listen to pop music in the same way that other people listen to it, as a primary activity. I may listen to rock from time to time, but never without a certain spirit of irony and curiosity, not as something I want to do for its own sake. It would be similar to a minor deity wandering down from the mountaintop to taste the food of mortals, not because he needed to eat, but just to understand better what the human beings get out of eating.

    After many years of living like this, I think I understand a little better what’s going on. I have an aesthetic and an intellectual principle inside myself, but most people do not. Most people need an external source of emotional energy to motivate them, just like they need an external source of authority to organize them and tell them what to do. This is the reason why pop music exists at all, for otherwise it would seem to have but little purpose.

    American (Western) culture has exaggerated this emotional forcefield to absolutely absurd proportions, but that is not sustainable and I believe it is already on the wane. The passing of the Boomers and their rock gods will spell the end of the pop-musical era as we have known it, and I don’t think we shall see the likes of it again for several lifetimes.

    • Replies: @Guest Perfect
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree. But I never thought of them as gods. I liked music of the 60s and 70s when it seemed to be about love and not sex though sex was always underlying in the music. Bob Seger, ELO (my fav), the Doobie Brothers, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson, I could name more I like but who has all day?
    That said, the rot is much more ingrained than most know.
    Example: my work takes me around the southeast frequently. I travel to some very, very wealthy barns and stables. Very wealthy and VERY WHITE. These stables are filled with young White girls and women with horses that cost as much as my house. They fancy themselves dressage and hunter/jumpers at national levels and some of them are. Needless to say these types of competitions costs big money to compete in.
    What music do you suppose is playing in their barn aisles? Rap. Rap is playing.
    Its disgusting. A young wealthy White girl makes a video of herself riding and the tune is rap. She's well turned out and her horse and tack are perfect and you have watched them train for years, you're expecting a nice combination of great riding and excellently trained horse. But then the rap with raspy negro voice, mostly unintelligible words except for the dirty words, repeating the same lyrics a hundred times in the song and your heart sinks.
    The music ruined the vibe and ruined the riding. I can't watch anymore.
    Several times I "bumped" into the shelf the radio was on and watched it crash and shatter on the floor never to play again. Oops I'm clutzly today lol.
    I would never have expected to hear this music in THIS environment, but I do.
    Its very discouraging.

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  • @Mike Tre
    @Old Prude

    I am pretty awesome, now that I think about it.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Mike, over the years you have grown into a great writer and a true artist with the comebacks. Much respect.

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    @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks ID! I share the same respect. I have your book and plan to start it once it gets slower at work.

    My employer thinks this is Alabama and I'm his cotton pickin'... well, you know.

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  • Following the death of Charlie Kirk, all sorts of weird things are going on. It has “rallied the MAGA base” in a depraved manner, similar to the way the nation was rallied after 9/11. Clearly, this was intended by the administration, which has worked with all of these “alternative media influencers,” to stoke the hysteria....
  • I find it completely impossible to follow this never-ending saga of what social media personality said what about whom, because I never listen to any of them anyway. I did not even know who Charlie Kirk was before he got killed. I’d seen his name mentioned, of course, but I knew little else about him and was not curious enough to find out.

    In this case, I can safely say that I think the world would be a better place if more people were like me.

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    • Replies: @Same old same old
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I agree. This drama-centric, personality-driven political theater is not helpful and definitely not real. All of these people will sell you out in a second.

    It's better to focus on people who aren't starting drama and screaming about politics, but are focusing on the cultural issues and topics that got us here. Many of them purposely avoid politics. These are the people doing actual work to help the white race - not paid-off spics like Catboy Fuentes or ex-Faux Jews hosts like Cucker.

    Obviously, this site is somewhat different. It's not intended for public consumption as much as discussion and discourse among people who already know what is going on. Propaganda, though, is best served to be indirect and focus on matters that are actually important.

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  • @Hail
    @Almost Missouri


    Currdog73:

    please explain why Sydney Sweeney is getting all this “ink” (publicity). [...] I don’t think she’s all that pretty, only thing I see is she has big tatatas.
     

    Almost Missouri:

    Weird hooded eyes, and a strangely slovenly way of speaking. Very off-putting.
     
    SYDNEY SWEENEY
    - born Sept 1997, Spokane, Washington state;
    - raised in and around Spokane; Seattle; and Portland, Oregon thru age 13. Began acting career before age 13 in those places;
    - At age 13, she "chose" to move to Los Angeles to pursue her budding acting career (I assume, given school schedules, that the move was in the summer of 2011 to align with the school-year calendar);
    - Sydney Sweeney has been tied to Southern California since ca. mid-2011, graduating as valedictorian of the Class of 2016, Brighton Hall School, Burbank, California.
    - Summer of 2025: Someone releases a White-racialist-coded ad involving her, outraging people.

    ________

    Sydney Sweeney was asked to do a 1m30s promotional so-called "teaser" intro to Game 4 of the World Series this evening. It played right before the opening the game. The game is in Los Angeles, which is probably relevant directly to the choice. Here it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsBuchjpb9o

    (Please, anyone with good opinions on the matter: share a General Theory of Vocal Fry.)

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    (Please, anyone with good opinions on the matter: share a General Theory of Vocal Fry.)

    In the general theory, “vocal fry,” as the phrase is being used here, refers to the rhetorical posture of the human female when she is full of self-regard and wants to seem important in a particularly diva-like way. The subtext is, “I am happy, relaxed, divine, above it all, and everything I do is in sync with the universe and comes off effortlessly.” You have to be in a very sanguine mood to do this authentically.

    As such, there is a male version of vocal fry that you might call the “magnanimous pedant” register. It occurs whenever a man, in a giddy mood and momentarily thrilled at being the center of attention, begins to lard his public speech with over-intellectualized renditions of commonplace topics. The hosts of “drive time” radio shows often slip into this timbre, especially if there are two or three of them (it happens more in dialogue than monologue).

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Intelligent Dasein


    the rhetorical posture of the human female when she is full of self-regard and wants to seem important in a particularly diva-like way. The subtext is, “I am happy, relaxed, divine, above it all, and everything I do is in sync with the universe and comes off effortlessly.” You have to be in a very sanguine mood to do this authentically.
     
    This was published three months ago:

    Sydney Sweeney and Vocal Fry

    by Casey Erin Clark (Public Speaking & Communication Expert)
    LinkedIn | July 2025

    Everyone’s talking about That Ad . . . I want to talk about Sydney Sweeney’s voice.
     


    When I heard that voiceover — the throaty vocal fry, the lack of consonants and dropped word endings, the stretched out vowels, the pitch that somehow simultaneously feels high/nasal and low/breathy — I knew exactly what they were going for even without the visuals.

    It’s a vocal character as calculated for effect as Minnie Mouse’s adorable chirp, Marilyn Monroe’s breathy purr, or, for that matter, Elizabeth Holmes’ techbro baritone.

    It’s the 2020’s version of Sexy Baby Voice.

    And listen . . . I have BIG feelings about (and over a decade of research and expertise in) how we talk about women’s voices. I hate the gendered criticism and the egregious double-binds. I hate that women in the real world with vocal characteristics similar to this are dismissed as airheads and blocked from leadership positions. And in the case of this ad, I recognize an acting choice when I see one. Whether that was Sydney’s choice or the marketing department asking for what it wanted, that wasn’t left up to chance or “naturalism”. [...]

    [I]n the case of this ad, along with the visuals and overall messaging, this vocal choice is absolutely about making Sweeney the cool girl — in the specific sense of very youthful, sexy, and absolutely non-threatening . . . to men of a certain age. She’s not someone you have to take seriously. She’s a fantasy you can project whatever you want onto. An empty vessel with no discernible thoughts or feelings of her own.
     

  • @Mr. Anon
    @Almost Missouri


    It’s worth noting that the endless cycles of lockdowns and “new variants” only definitively stopped on 2/24/2022, when …
     
    As you say, the COVID-op seemed to end sometime in early 2022. Perhaps it was due, as you say, to the Russian invasion of Ukraine - a whole new "Current Thing".

    Or perhaps it was down to the Canadian Truckers, who demonstrated that a lot of the World just wasn't going to put up with this bulls**t anymore.

    Or perhaps it was due to the Democrats realizing that they were going to get creamed in the mid-terms if they kept up with the vax and mask horses**t.

    For whatever reason, it ended, and I am grateful. But I am not letting it slide. Anybody who enabled that tyranny - I will remember. I will not forget, and I will not forgive. They will forever have my deepest mistrust and suspicion.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Intelligent Dasein

    Anybody who enabled that tyranny – I will remember. I will not forget, and I will not forgive. They will forever have my deepest mistrust and suspicion.

    I would hope this also means that anyone who steadfastly fought that tyranny would earn a measure of trust in your book. To wit, I invite anyone to examine my commenting history with respect to Covid, and they will see that I was flawlessly opposed to that regime in every particular, right from the very beginning. Time has proven me right on that score, as it will eventually do with the other unpopular opinions I have voiced here.

    For what it’s worth, Mr. Anon, reading through the comments here lately, I have found you to be an especially levelheaded and perceptive voice, and I agree with much of what you say. I hope an ID endorsement doesn’t hurt your reputation in these parts, but I just wanted to tell you I think you’re on the right track.

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    @Intelligent Dasein


    Time has proven me right on that score, as it will eventually do with the other unpopular opinions I have voiced here.
     
    Unless you're talking about TUR articles in general, that particular opinion wasn't so unpopular around here. It was our host, Mr. Sailer, whom I would say was "caught up in the thick of it", to put in somewhat generously.*

    I was miffed that Mr. Sailer generally saw the Legacy Media for what it was, but this got so big that his normal cynicism and sense of stupidity went missing... as with that one guy turned into a newt... he got better.

    .


    * Definitely, others were off their rockers - HA, That Would be Telling, ...

  • @Mr. Anon
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    Tucker Carlson interviews Nick Fuentes.
     
    Why? You know, Tucker, you don't have to interview everyone. You don't have to be a flake to be independent. Just because the respectable media doesn't believe something doesn't mean that you have to believe it.

    Candace Owens should be a warning, not an example.

    Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein

    A useful addendum to Ron Unz’s nameplate, paraphrasing the great Jerry Seinfeld:

    “Sometimes the perspectives excluded from the mainstream media, are excluded for a reason.”

  • @kaganovitch
    @Timothy Black


    But why not consider the most obvious one?: Steve slowly came to terms with being half Jewish (by blood), first criticizing the people who “abandoned” him (he was given up for adoption);
     
    America's Half Blood Pundit!

    Replies: @Timothy Black, @Intelligent Dasein

    America’s Half-Blood Blintz.

    You gotta keep the rhyme, homie.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
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  • @Hail
    @deep anonymous

    The blog and other commentary by the writer known as The Z-Man (r.i.p.) gives some useful insights into Greater Baltimore, especially paired up with race data. It tells a localized version of the Great Replacement.

    The Z-Man, a.k.a. Chris Zander (1966-2025), was a native of that general region of Maryland, had extensive family ties there, and lived there most of his life, and I believe in Baltimore City for much of his core-adult working-years. I understand he also, at times, had work ties that brought him into regular contact with the immediate Washington D.C. metropolitan area.

    (The Census counts the two together in its widest economic-regional measure known as Combined Statistical Areas, indicating overlapping economic ties between the two. Obviously-enough so, in the era of the Interstate Highway system and the full normalization of long-commuting by car, an artifact of the Race problem above anything else.)

    Decline -- as from the proverbial "closing of the factory," or any other such cause -- is a process which can be recovered from, to varying degrees. The risk, in a multi-racial society full of Net Takers, is when depressed places create depressed prices and a retreat of public-spiritedness, which by turns attract and encourage the proliferation of elements whose norms are bound to keep prices down (and not in a good way), further incentivizing low-human-capital arrivals. After a few rounds of this, the new people have tended to lock in new norms, in which White families definitely cannot thrive, in which Whites often cannot even function healthily (in many cases) and become mired slowly in psycho-spiritual malaise.

    This process has long since spilled beyond the borders of places like Baltimore City and other "inner cities." (Trump's references to "inner cities" is largely an anachronism, and showing of his age; his points-of-reference are decades old; he's soon to turn 80.)

    Baltimore County, surrounding Baltimore City, has been undergoing a considerable Race Replacement:

    ___________

    [Baltimore County, Maryland]

    White non-Hispanic (% of total)
    - 1980: 586,204 (89.4%)
    - 1990: 582,397 (84.1%)
    - 2000: 553,890 (73.4%)
    - 2010: 504,556 (62.7%)
    - 2020: 443,263 (51.9%)

    Black (incl. "Black Hispanics" before 2000)
    - 1980: 53,955
    - 1990: 85,451
    - 2000: 150,456
    - 2010: 206,913
    - 2020: 252,724

    Others
    - 1980: 15,456
    - 1990: 24,286
    - 2000: 49,946
    - 2010: 93,560
    - 2020: 158,548

    Ratio of White:Black
    - 1980: ca. 1100:100 (11:1) counting only Black Non-Hispanics
    - 1990: ca. 700:100 (7:1) counting only Black non-Hispanics
    - 2000: 368:100 (4:1)
    - 2010: 244:100 (2:1)
    - 2020: 175:100 (under 2:1).

    (For comparison: Baltimore City's longer-term decline extends some decades beyond this 1980-to-2020 window but the overall pattern is the same. As of 1980, Baltimore City still had 342,000 Whites vs. 430,000 Blacks. The 2020 Census counted a paltry 157,000 Whites, 336,000 Blacks, and 93,000 Others. Whites holding on at 27%, down from 85%-White in 1920.)

    ___________

    Some time in the early 2020s, the (once-White) Baltimore County slipped into White-minority status. That's forty-five or fifty years after the same happened in Baltimore City before it.

    (And, by some point around the mid- or late-2010s, "Baltimore City+County" tipped over into Black > White status. Spiritually speaking, the tip-over point will need to be dated earlier, maybe something ten or even twenty years earlier. That's kind of a longer and harder story to tell than this one using Census data.)

    Not so long ago, a lot of communities in Baltimore County were effectively 100%-White. St the 'macro,' county level, the place was near 90% White and only 8% Black in 1980; lots of those Blacks will have been concentrated in a few places, and so many neighborhoods or large areas could be assumed to have trivial numbers of Blacks, many in the <1% range.

    Many localities in Baltimore County within the living memory of someone like the Z-Man, or the parents of the current-day youth, would've been at John Derbyshire-allowed levels of racial diversity. (Mr Derb has counseled the need for a self-confident White supermajority, but, here in (post)modern times, with added allowances for "dashes of spice in the soup." I believe that was his phrasing. A bit of a self-serving caveat, the cynic or racialist might say.)

    Baltimore County gets a lot less attention than the equivalents of the counties immediately adjacent to Washington D.C. because so many media people live in, or are tied to and exposed to, Washington and nearby Baltimore is often something of an afterthought for this opinion-shaping class.

    As for the Z-Man, the pessimism he showed during his blogging career in the 2010s and early 2020s, up to the time of his untimely death before reaching his 60th birthday, is symbolic. The numbers do show a rapid decline in the fortunes of Whites in Greater Baltimore (the %-White within Baltimore City has likewise continued to drop, never stabilizing, always dropping).

    Remembering that the Z-Man was born in 1966, he'll have observed these changes first-hand his lifetime. Place after place that had been huge-White-supermajority communities in his memory, quietly tipping over into Black-heavy places, and some into the shabby status of "places that any Whites with means will tend to leave." The Z-Man referred to the Baltimore City, where he lived, as "Lagos," without affection.

    (Several of the commenters here, and many more of the non-commenting readers of this Sailer-blog discussion, were active at the Z-Man site. Intelligent Dasein spent a lot of time there. John Derbyshire probably isn't reading these comments, but he himself became a kind of partner of the Z-Man's operation, hosting his Radio Derb there. VDare and AmRen gave him speaking slots, and so on.)

    The Z-Man has been eulogized widely, as often happens with unexpected deaths at relatively young ages. If word came out that Pat Buchanan died today, it would be sad and nostalgic for some who remember him when he was active. But he has been fully retired and out of writing and speaking for years, and he is nearing 90. The Z-Man was still in his 50s.

    A tragic irony to the story of the Z-Man was he finally left Baltimore, or "Lagos," around early 2024. I'm not sure where he went first, but eventually he wound up settling in a place in West Virginia, not far from the VDare Castle. I understand Peter Brimelow helped run Z-Man's funeral.

    If the Z-Man had lived to 2030, he'd be among the "missing Whites" that Census-2030 data would pick up. He'd have been counted there in 2020, but gone in 2030. The story of quite a few not just in Baltimore City but also (maybe surprisingly, to some unfamiliar with the area) also once-White Baltimore County. Few of those leaving Baltimore City/County over the years will have become "racialist bloggers" or anything of the sort, like the Z-Man did. But very assuredly the motivation to leave for so many of them has been the same as Z-Man's was to leave "Lagos"-Baltimore.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @deep anonymous

    (Several of the commenters here, and many more of the non-commenting readers of this Sailer-blog discussion, were active at the Z-Man site. Intelligent Dasein spent a lot of time there…)

    Indeed. I actually controlled his output for several months by basically running Inception ops from the comments section. I would disagree with something he wrote and explain why. The disagreement itself would garner from him and his entourage the usual fusillade of insults and gainsayings that I’ve come to expect from such places; but, being right (as I typically am), the idea would exert some kind of subconscious force on the Z-Man, and—lo and behold!—the next day my “disagreement” would appear as his daily blog entry, suitably worked over in characteristic Z-Man fashion, with both him and his commenters seemingly oblivious to the fact that I had implanted the whole thing in his mind.

    This went on for quite some time—me playing the mini Wurlitzer while the peanut gallery hurled rotten tomatoes in my direction—but it wasn’t really the way I wanted it. I kept hoping that he would actually “see” where his ideas were coming from and become conscious of them, so that we could have a real conversation about things. That didn’t happen, however, and I had to quit before it got to be too on-the-nose. I don’t get any pleasure out of that sort of manipulation, which I wasn’t even trying to do in the first place. Now that he’s gone, I can only shake my head at the lost opportunities. HBD is a cancerous thought-worm that really blinds the eyes of those whom it infects, rendering them impervious to any kind of criticism or correction.

    The Z-Man had a very odd sort of mind. I think the adjective that best describes it is “backwards.” He would talk about well-known people and things as if they were esoteric figments he was struggling to pull out of the ether—“Speaking of lying, there was that guy from back in the ’90s who just used to lie with impunity…I think he was a politician from Arkansas or somewhere…who was it?…Ah…Oh well, It doesn’t matter…Oh!… Bill Clinton, that was it!”—and meanwhile he would employ his own private lexicon with perfect assurance, as if it were some universal language that we all ought to understand instinctively. Whenever he reached for a commonplace idiom or cliché, he would invariably employ it in exactly the opposite sense that it normally carries. For example, the saying, “Dogs bark and caravans move on,” is supposed to mean that the deeper events of life and history progress towards their destined outcome with a serene steadiness that is not deterred by the yapping objections of inconsequential people; but whenever Z-Man used this phrase, he would identify himself with the dogs and deem the Progressive Left the caravan that marches on: the very opposite of the essentially optimistic manner in which a real Traditionalist would take it.

    The Z-Man was not really too bright. He was the kind of person who, in a better world, should have ended up as a middle school English teacher that the students begrudgingly admitted handled the material effectively, despite his tangential stories and monotone delivery; but somehow or another, he got shunted into a “bad timeline” version of himself and became the bellwether for a cadre of internet cranks who only had the intellect and maturity of middle-schoolers. That he was interred with Catholic ceremony despite his atheism, his utter rejection of the faith, and his Norman Greenbaum-level grasp of theology is an ending that only Flannery O’Conner could write—and a merciful repudiation of his work.

    • Disagree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You felt so threatened by Z-Man. What a vicious little vermin you are. I am finding that it is the faux religious types, whether you or E Michael Jones, who are the biggest enemies of our race.

    Z-Man's influence lives on.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Can you link us to some examples of your successful Inception Operations, just here on TUR, at least? I want to learn. Do they give you a badge? (I like being able to carry a badge, is all...)

    , @res
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I’ve come to expect from such places; but, being right (as I typically am)
     
    Well, at least that statement was half right (the first part).

    It is interesting to see your bitter side come out. A bit like when Corvinus became nasty.

    But seriously, read your comment again and think how it comes off to others. If you think you are always (or even "typically") right please revisit our past conversations. I might not always be right, but I would be surprised if my percentage was under 50% in those.

    Replies: @Currdog73, @Corvinus

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    —and meanwhile he would employ his own private lexicon with perfect assurance, as if it were some universal language that we all ought to understand instinctively.
     
    Hmm. Did you steal that modus operandi from him, or did you first “implant the whole thing in his mind”?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/isteve-open-thread-11/#comment-7302393

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/isteve-open-thread-11/#comment-7303213

    he got shunted into a “bad timeline” version of himself
     
    Haven’t you recently self-published a book that almost no one will ever read? How many copies have sold so far?

    Replies: @res

  • One of the weirdest things happening right now is how Israel’s prime minister keeps going out of his way to make public statements saying that Israel was definitely not behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. In a two-minute video uploaded onto his Twitter account on Wednesday, Netanyahu complained that “Somebody has fabricated a monstrous big...
  • It is very much Netanyahu’s style to push his way to the front of an aborning current event, and try to control the narrative to his advantage. It doesn’t mean Israel was actually involved; being the tactless criminal buffoon that he is, he would just do it anyway.

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  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Assassination is murder for hire—that’s all
     
    Perhaps ironically (for you being a wordcel), you’re bad at vocabulary.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @vinteuil

    Perhaps ironically (for you being a wordcel), you’re bad at vocabulary.

    “Wordcel” is not a word.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That's exactly what a wordcel would say.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Intelligent Dasein


    “Wordcel” is not a word.
     
    It is now, you fuckwad.

    Is "fuckwad" a word? I don't care. Generic American's point was well understood, and you are a mildly insane, pseudo-intellectual who gets his rocks off by having his pretend-theses published.

    You are of a type. You are crazy. You will not be listened to or seriously read, ever.

    Please, go away.

    , @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Words and their definitions are determined primarily by usage. Unless you are talking about a dead language that never changes.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    “Wordcel” is not a word.
     
    Wrong. Google it and you’ll find it used as word by many different sources.

    Oh right, now you’ll say “Google” isn’t a word.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  • @Almost Missouri
    @Hail

    As Counselor Shearer said upthread, the "assassination" definition could be improved with the addition of the word "particular" or "selected" thus: "lethal violence against a particular civilian for political purposes” or "lethal violence against a selected civilian for political purposes”. I.e., the victim is not random, but is killed for what he represents in some way, which arguably adds a fourth element of "representation", though the "political purpose" of terrorism typically involves non-random target selection for representing something, so it's arguable whether that is really a separate element.

    It is reasonable to say the Dallas police officers were assassinated because they were particularly selected by the killer for the office that they held even if they were not individually selected by name.

    Kirk didn't hold a political office, but he was undoubtedly very particularly selected by the killer. "Assassination" is uncontroversially used for non-office holder MLK's killing, so I don't see why it shouldn't also apply to Kirk. It's about particular selection, not the office.

    A bigger ambiguity might be the word "civilian". E.g., Johnson may have perceived the police to be at war with him and his race, so in his mind he wasn't targeting a civilian, i.e., someone not in combat with him. OTOH, he was wrong, so we don't have to take his misapprehension into account.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Assassination is murder for hire—that’s all; but then the word is used antonomastically for all kinds of dramatic public attacks, motivated hits, and decapitation strikes against one’s rivals. It probably shouldn’t be. If the hit is motivated by any kind of political or economic calculation, it is enough to say that the victim is ‘whacked’ or ‘offed.’ If, on the other hand, the attack is a politically ineffectual but psychologically expressive act of rage, it is enough to say that the victim is ‘murdered’ or ‘killed.’

    Charlie Kirk was not assassinated. He was killed.

    • Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The general definition of assassinate:

    murder (an important person) in a surprise attack for political or religious reasons

    In common usage, killing a high profile person for political purposes, to silence political speech or to stop a movement is generally called an assassination. Obviously, this murder was done for political/social reasons.

    As to the antonomastia part, I guess you mean this:


    The word "assassin" originates from the Arabic name for a medieval Ismaili sect, Hashashin, which European travelers and Crusaders misinterpreted as referring to "hashish users". While the group's founder, Hassan-i Sabbah, called his followers Asasiyyun or "people of principle," enemies and outsiders used the pejorative term hashishiyyin
     
    Ain't AI grand? Anyway, in modern usage, this is what happened to Charlie Kirk. Language is always evolving. This is a problem for those who worship Words.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Assassination is murder for hire
     
    I have to disagree about the "for hire" part. Who hired John Wilkes Booth or James Earle Ray? Perhaps they had some kind financial assistance at some point (a category that would exclude very few), but their motives were sincere conviction, not mercenary.

    Since you exclude both "any kind of political or economic calculation" but also "psychologically expressive act of rage", I'm not sure what is left. Can you specify which killings were assassinations and what makes them so?
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Assassination is murder for hire—that’s all
     
    Perhaps ironically (for you being a wordcel), you’re bad at vocabulary.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @vinteuil

  • WARNING TO READERS:
  • @Anonymous534

    I’m open to conspiracy theories, if those seem to become more likely as more information comes out, but the “official story” currently seems to provide a sufficient explanation: “young guy who grew up in Utah around guns started getting into leftist stuff on the internet, and like all young men in America, was emotionally unstable, planned what amounted to a very easy assassination.”
     
    The Feds released a video of the supposed shooter jumping down from the roof. At that point he is supposed to have a disassembled rifle somewhere on him, but there is no rifle to be seen on his person. Where's the rifle? It is not there. Explain this, Anglin.

    Then, the assassin supposedly ran to the woods where he was going to ditch his rifle, but he decided to reassemble the rifle before ditching it. Why would anyone do that? If you're an assassin making your escape and you're going to ditch your rifle, why would you stop and waste time reassembling it? It makes no sense. Explain this, too.

    Then during the shooting there were two dudes behind Kirk doing some kind of hand signals seconds before Kirk was shot. Explain this.

    Then there was an old Jew in the crowd who created a perfect distraction after the shot. What was that about?

    The supposed assassin got busted because he leaked his whole plan in details to a roommate or an ex-roommate on Discord which was not actually Discord. What person sane enough to plan and execute a perfect assassination and escape would be insane enough to give away all the details of his plan to someone in some chat app for no reason? How convenient for the official story.

    The goyim bought the JFK magic bullet theory, they'll buy this story too.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    At that point he is supposed to have a disassembled rifle somewhere on him, but there is no rifle to be seen on his person. Where’s the rifle? It is not there. Explain this, Anglin.

    Why is everybody saying this? The rooftop escape video clearly shows the alleged shooter carrying a long satchel that could easily contain a rifle. The conspiracy theories have gotten so weird that they simply deny things that are right in front of their face, contained in the video evidence.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @arbeit macht frei
    @Intelligent Dasein

    what do you see in this FBI provided video of the alleged shooter? doesn't look like there's a long gun in there to me.

    https://youtu.be/YrfHme9Yhc8

    , @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Why is everybody saying this? The rooftop escape video clearly shows the alleged shooter carrying a long satchel that could easily contain a rifle. The conspiracy theories have gotten so weird that they simply deny things that are right in front of their face, contained in the video evidence.

    The shooter confessed to his dad and was turned in by his pastor. He matches the picture. The range is now 150 yards with an off the shelf 3006 scope/rifle combo. That would be within the range of a redneck deer shot. Not a Jewish John Wick super assassin.


    Mainstream media on Biden laptop: We will not accept any possible outside theories. The laptop belongs to Hunter Biden. We don't need to look at the evidence in front of us. We have decided.

    Alt right on Charlie Kirk shooting: We will not accept anything but a conspiracy theory. This must have been a Mossad hit. We have decided and don't need to look at the evidence in front of us.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Dumbo

    , @muh muh
    @Intelligent Dasein


    The conspiracy theories have gotten so weird that they simply deny things that are right in front of their face, contained in the video evidence.
     
    Oh?

    Here's some video evidence, right in front of your face:

    Security detail uses military-type signaling
    https://twitter.com/TPV_John/status/1966270716346593298

    Security detail connections with Israel
    https://twitter.com/deepwebslinger/status/1966817311060287534

    How is it 'weird' to see these things as highly conspicuous?

    Another curious detail:


    John Cullen @I_Am_JohnCullen

    We have a big problem.
    @FBIDirectorKash

    The round that shot Charlie Kirk was not recovered.

    And, in a related story..

    A .30-06 rifle was found wrapped in a towel in a nearby wooded area.

    There is no ballistic connection.

    🙄

    Therefore, I’m afraid we have a really big problem.
    @AGPamBondi

    https://twitter.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1966671807617941891
     

    More oddities:

    George Zinn
    https://twitter.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1966604241096835580

    Non-consumer drone
    https://twitter.com/HustleBitch_/status/1966634763105542446
    https://twitter.com/JG_CSTT/status/1966932228912419210

    Flight out of Provo
    https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1966236816089964735

    The plane referenced in the last video is registered with a foundation associated with the Chabad Lubavitch movement.

    Characteristic of conspiracy detractors here is blunt force denigration and glib dismissal of anyone who sees all of this 'right in front of their face, contained in the evidence (video or otherwise)', and your comment is definitely no exception.

    Any serious investigator would not declare 'case closed' this soon after the murder, not with so many unanswered questions and facts sufficient to establish means and motive for a collective operation.

    It took years to discover that James Earl Ray, Sirhan Sirhan, and Mehmet Ali Ağca, in spite of their confessions, were mere actors in their respective collective operations.

    Now, if you want to dance around all of this, as well as the data in the aforementioned Blumenthal article, that's your choice.

    At least we'll know where you stand.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Wokechoke, @Emil Nikola Richard

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  • @Intelligent Dasein
    @kaganovitch


    Other than Gregorian chant, it’s doubtful that ID recognizes anything more recent than 15th century organ scores as music.
     
    Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, "Other than 15th century organ scores, it's doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music."

    I need you guys to pick up your game. You can't even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I'm feeling neglected here.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @kaganovitch, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, “Other than 15th century organ scores, it’s doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music.”

    I need you guys to pick up your game. You can’t even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I’m feeling neglected here.

    As Achmed pointed out, Gregorian chant is still being written hence statement makes sense. In any case was not intended as personal attack, more like semi-affectionate twitting but perhaps it was gratuitous.

    • Thanks: Intelligent Dasein
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @kaganovitch

    Sorry to have confused the matter, but I was making a joke. The video with these chants was put up 6 months back, and I don't know if the guy's name was really Greg.

    Anyway, I think 12 hours of Gregorian Chants might be of use for Intelligent Dasein. As for Exorcisms, I would like to see them come back into vogue. The whole Globalist Deep State could use one big mass-exorcism - we could use the SuperDome... hell, an enema too... maybe at the same time.

    Good night, all.

  • @kaganovitch
    @vinteuil


    OK, so ID & GTOD are quarreling, now? and not just about their musical preferences?
     
    Other than Gregorian chant, it's doubtful that ID recognizes anything more recent than 15th century organ scores as music.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Intelligent Dasein

    Other than Gregorian chant, it’s doubtful that ID recognizes anything more recent than 15th century organ scores as music.

    Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, “Other than 15th century organ scores, it’s doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music.”

    I need you guys to pick up your game. You can’t even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I’m feeling neglected here.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Here you go. A guy named Greg put these chants up on youtube no longer than 6 months ago. That postdates the 15th Century... plus, they're Exorcist-Approved™.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERuXyDeVqc

    , @kaganovitch
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Gregorian chant predates the 15th century, so this statement does not actually make sense as written. It should be, “Other than 15th century organ scores, it’s doubtful ID recognizes anything more recent than Gregorian chant as music.”

    I need you guys to pick up your game. You can’t even manage a proper gratuitous personal attack anymore. I’m feeling neglected here.
     
    As Achmed pointed out, Gregorian chant is still being written hence statement makes sense. In any case was not intended as personal attack, more like semi-affectionate twitting but perhaps it was gratuitous.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I’m feeling neglected here.
     
    Really. No replies from you to my whuppin’ of your upthread ‘arguments’?
  • @Almost Missouri
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    The existential root causes of black underperformance are beside the point except to philosophers
     
    I'm generally sympathetic that on public policy matters ("government work") we don't have to resolve ancient philosophical questions before taking action; just heading in the right direction is usually "good enough for government work".

    But as the rest of your comment implicitly acknowledges, to go in the right direction, we have to have a view to ancient philosophy after all.

    well-meaning white imbeciles propose solutions which have nothing to do with the problem because they are based on fake premises
     
    Well if it ain't those dang "root causes" cropping up again!

    Even if you think it’s all environmental, you still have to deal with making choices about changing the environment (we tried that already, a few times, and it never worked)
     
    Right. We've poured several trillion dollars, thousands (millions?) of lives, decades of time, and uncountable energy down that particular rabbit hole, and we have less than nothing to show for it. The ROI was actually negative. Even if we were dumb enough to rerun the experiment, it is doubtful we could afford it without self-destruction. Can we now admit the Exclusively Environmental thesis is definitively falsified? It is, after all, an existential matter at this point. If we don't admit that failure, every decision from now on will still be tainted with its toxin of falsehood, and we will once again reap the whirlwind, this time terminally.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Intelligent Dasein

    Right. We’ve poured several trillion dollars, thousands (millions?) of lives, decades of time, and uncountable energy down that particular rabbit hole, and we have less than nothing to show for it. The ROI was actually negative. Even if we were dumb enough to rerun the experiment, it is doubtful we could afford it without self-destruction. Can we now admit the Exclusively Environmental thesis is definitively falsified?

    That does not follow. The failure of Great Society interventionist measures does not prove anything about the nature/nurture divide, one way or the other. Neither are these two things dichotomous; and neither are they (collectively) exhaustive.

    Furthermore—and this is the part that HBDers simply cannot process, because HBD is just another strain of modernism—even if those interventionist measures had worked, that’s still no justification for doing them. After all, there are numerous people, at all times and in every society, who would benefit from better opportunities, and yet society does not treat their improvement as imperative.

    This should lead you to conclude that practical outcomes of any kind were never the point of Great Society/Civil Rights-era social engineering. Once you get that far, only then can you start asking yourself the real questions: What was it really all about?

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "...just another strain of modernism ..."

    So you are against electricity and running water? Modern stuff like that?

    , @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That does not follow. The failure of Great Society interventionist measures does not prove anything about the nature/nurture divide, one way or the other. Neither are these two things dichotomous; and neither are they (collectively) exhaustive.

    It proved that PhDs with billions of government spending could not make their nurture based programs work.

    Which proved that those PhDs did not know what they were talking about and were not taking unspoken variables into account.

    So yes it does prove something in the nature/nurture divide.

    The nurture side of the 1960s was just plain wrong and that has undermined belief in liberal solutions to "poverty" which at the time really meant Black poverty. As a reminder those programs had a lot of Republican supporters and Nixon signed practically everything the Democrats handed him.

    Furthermore—and this is the part that HBDers simply cannot process, because HBD is just another strain of modernism—even if those interventionist measures had worked, that’s still no justification for doing them. After all, there are numerous people, at all times and in every society, who would benefit from better opportunities, and yet society does not treat their improvement as imperative.

    A bigger problem is for individualistic race deniers like yourself that have to explain why public housing worked for the Italians but not Blacks. Cabrini-Green was a major success in reducing poverty when it had Italians and Irish. A politically incorrect fact of history that will not be on Fox or CNN. Conservative talking heads tell us that public housing doesn't work but don't mention the pre-Black Cabrini-Green. You are not supposed to know such things. It's da big government that is the problem! Rinse and repeat until you believe that tax cuts for the wealthy are better policy than trying to help anyone.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    even if those interventionist measures had worked, that’s still no justification for doing them
     
    Huh? If an entity intervenes (takes action), and the result is to that entity’s satisfaction, that in itself is justification by definition to the one taking the action. You, an impotent third party on the sidelines, can yell “No, no! Not like that!”, but maybe nobody cares what you think, and maybe for good reason.

    Presumably you can explain in a clear, simple way why the interventionist is wrong, but if you can’t, and the interventionist (action taker) is not feeling charitable, there may be justification for you receiving a brutal beat-down.


    This should lead you to conclude that practical outcomes of any kind were never the point of Great Society/Civil Rights-era social engineering. Once you get that far, only then can you start asking yourself the real questions: What was it really all about?
     
    LOL. If you don’t already know, and think you’ve broached some unheard-of topic, you must be a dopey undergrad in SOC/PSYCH 101. But in your past videos you look a lot older than a typical undergrad…
    , @Moshe Def
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Do you concur?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Almost Missouri

    "All hypotheses arrange facts into a pleasing narrative structure, so again, so I’m not sure why this hypothesis’s predictive power should be discarded for doing exactly what any good hypothesis does."

    ID's take on all of this might make for a good after-dinner conversation among concerned intellectuals, but it is such a private mode of thinking that it's virtually just a sort of sophisticated hobby. The existential root causes of black underperformance are beside the point except to philosophers: what matters is policy preferences and shifting the cultural Overton vocabulary, so that it becomes possible to talk about these things aloud in public with a kind of actual honesty for a change.

    Whichever side you choose in the HBD debate is your own academic preference: the fact remains that whatever the reason, blacks cause X number of societal problems and persistent social cost, they make absurd demands which have nothing to do with fixing all the damage they cause, and well-meaning white imbeciles propose solutions which have nothing to do with the problem because they are based on fake premises and lying by omission. Whether black underachievement and seemingly permanent hostility are caused by genetics or environmental or historical factors, the plain fact is that there they are, and there they remain, no matter which explanation you favor. So the question is, What sort of policies should we prefer to make life more livable for everyone? And the answer to that has nothing to do with one's existential views of fundamental human dilemmas.

    Even if you think it's all environmental, you still have to deal with making choices about changing the environment (we tried that already, a few times, and it never worked), and even if you got it right it would still take a few generations to set in, and in the meantime here we are stuck with these problems in ours and our children's lifetimes.

    Unfortunately (at least to my own blinkered mind), the actual realistic solutions to these issues probably involve taking measures which would simply be unacceptably caustic and impracticable in the American political climate, and undoable within our framework of political processes. In other words it's kind of a horse pill which would probably work if you could swallow it, but sadly it's so large it will never fit down your throat, and so is effectively unavailable. It's a good thing it's not my job to think about what to do about that, because I'd get fired before lunch time on the first day.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Intelligent Dasein, @Almost Missouri

    Unfortunately (at least to my own blinkered mind), the actual realistic solutions to these issues…

    Your mind is blinkered because you still think there is some sort of problem to be solved here. There isn’t. That is pure, unconscious modernism of a socialist bent.

    The important question is not, “Why do blacks underperform in schools?” The important question is, “Why are we all enslaved by the tyranny of universal compulsory education? Who gave these schools authority over us, and how can we stop it?”

    The important question is not, “Why are blacks poorer compared with whites?” The important question is, “Why is everyone—black, white, or whatever—beholden to a neoliberal monetary system that deprives the vast majority of them of any productive property and individual sovereignty, and forces them to work a wage-slave job and barely survive off consumerist slop? How can we defeat this thoroughgoing oppression? Is it even possible?”

    If you can ask these questions, you might have something worth talking about besides Billie Eilish and blackness.
    The important question is not, “Why do blacks commit more violent crime?” The important question is, “What good are the rules if they mean only drudgery and misery for anyone who follows them, while rampant lawbreaking at every level is not only not punished, but positively rewarded? Is such a society even worth preserving? Is it even a society?”

    The important question is not, “How can I solve the social problems of the black community, so that I can maximize the ease and comfort of my earthly life without ever needing to deal with their dysfunction?” The important question is, “This world being a Vale of Tears that affords no lasting city, how can I live in such a way as to be worthy of a glorious eternity?”

    • Troll: Currdog73
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    beholden to a neoliberal monetary system that deprives the vast majority of them of any productive property and individual sovereignty, and forces them to work a wage-slave job and barely survive off consumerist slop
     
    That’s only true for those cognitively limited to that fate. Is that you? Maybe if one is not born rich and just starting out in adult life, it’s a temporary situation (most young people have to “pay their dues”—I know its soooo unfair OMG), but if in America you’re still spinning your wheels pushing 40, that could be a “you” problem, ID.

    The important question is, “This world being a Vale of Tears that affords no lasting city, how can I live in such a way as to be worthy of a glorious eternity?”
     
    Publishing tomes of vain, recondite onanism surely isn’t the way.

    Are you, Intelligent Dasein, worthy of the love of your Creator? Because you think Deep Thoughts, therefore you ARE?

    If you’re lucky ID, you’ll only spend 100,000 years in Purgatory.

    You’ve got to work for Love.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aab9Th7f2Ko

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Your mind is blinkered because you still think there is some sort of problem"

    Um no, my mind is not actually blinkered, it's just that it is sometimes tactful to be a bit self-deprecating before you make an uncomfortable assertion. Don't worry though, you definitely don't need to get out more often. The train is fine.

    "That is pure, unconscious modernism of a socialist bent."

    Well as Strother Martin famously said... oh, forget what he said about communication. What you've got here is a private language. When you say "unconscious" do you mean the Freudian type or the bottle-of-Bushmills type? And Modernism is its own animal, has nothing to do with socialism or Uri Geller bending spoons WITH HIS BRAIN!. No one is going to follow you if they have no idea what you're talking about. They stopped making Raisin Bran decoder rings back in the 70s, we don't have them for you.

    There are societal questions worth a conversation, because they can be talked about; and then there are your own personal fascinations which can't be. Which, you may be surprised to learn, most people do not share because they cannot parse your Klingon vocabulary. You're the one who brought up blacks and affirmative action and sports and so on: there are some hard societal questions in there, fodder for a frank discussion. But if you think the Important Questions involve overthrowing a "neo-liberal monetary system" or the tyranny of compulsory education, then you'd better open the pod bay door and let the spaceman back aboard the ship.

    You know what Billie Eilish has that you don't have? Clarity, directness, musical logic, and a thorough mastery and understanding of her chosen medium. And a charming smile goes a long way too, if you want followers. Skip the early trip-hop stuff, and go straight to the more mature later things that win all the Oscars and so forth.

    Replies: @Currdog73, @vinteuil

  • @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Assuming the "keto" and "enol" models are both sound, the apparent contradiction could be resolved by a comparative advantage-type analysis.

    In other words, even if one race, "B", is inferior both at math and sports, it might choose to specialize in sports anyway because its disadvantage in sports compared to race "A" is less than in math. And race "A" might accept race "B"'s domination of the sports trade because it is still more profitable for race "A" to dominate the math trade rather than to exploit its lesser advantage in the sports trade.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Yes, I talked about this version years ago, but of course nobody here reads what I actually write, so they wouldn’t know that.

    The problem is, as evidence for an HBD explanation of phenomena, this comparative advantage model is circumstantial at best, and cannot in any way be conclusive, as I demonstrated in the comment linked above. There are multiple ways that this could be true without HBD having anything to do with the matter.

    All of this conduces to the fact that HBD is exactly what I have clearly and consistently claimed it to be over many years: a Fortean hypothesis that arranges “damned facts” into a pleasing narrative structure, but without a real underlying metaphysic to support it.

    Everybody knows this in the back of their minds. The intellect cannot err in its own domain, even among those who make such regular abuses of it as HBDers are wont to do. The increasingly shrill responses marshaled to prevent this aborning cognitive dissonance tell us everything we need to know about the state of their argument.

    • Disagree: MEH 0910, Currdog73
    • Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You said earlier:


    Finally, none of this should be read as if I were suggesting that “race does not exist.” I am a race-realist, I am just not a biological race-realist. The kind of biological phenomena that we can measure and weigh are derivative; they are not really what “race” is all about.
     
    What does that mean? What is it that biological phenomena are derivative from?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    All of this conduces to the fact that HBD is exactly what I have clearly and consistently claimed it to be over many years: a Fortean hypothesis that arranges “damned facts” into a pleasing narrative structure, but without a real underlying metaphysic to support it.
     
    You contradict yourself by criticizing “Fortean” but call for “a real underlying metaphysic” (itself a nonsensical contradiction): Fortean and metaphysic are the same thing. Clearly, since you are dogmatically religious and believe in supernatural woo, you resent empiricism that refutes your magical kumbaya equalism, and are vainly trying to project the cope of your supernatural worldview into empirical areas, like HBD, that you morally disapprove of.

    You’re basically a tut-tutting church lady who uses fancier-than-average words, with little understanding of what those words mean, leading to cringeworthy self-contradictions like I pointed out above.

    Also, how many mestizos and Blacks do you think will read your book?

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein


    as evidence for an HBD explanation of phenomena, this comparative advantage model is circumstantial at best,
     
    The evidence for all hypothesis is circumstantial. So yes, "at best" and only, just like every other hypothesis.

    and cannot in any way be conclusive, as I demonstrated in the comment linked above.
     
    Which linked comment read as a long description of comparative advantage in practice. Or in "circumstance", if you prefer.

    There are multiple ways that this could be true without HBD having anything to do with the matter.
     
    Okay, so let's check the evidence and compare.

    HBD is exactly what I have clearly and consistently claimed it to be over many years: a Fortean hypothesis that arranges “damned facts” into a pleasing narrative structure, but without a real underlying metaphysic to support it.
     
    All hypotheses arrange facts into a pleasing narrative structure, so again, so I'm not sure why this hypothesis's predictive power should be discarded for doing exactly what any good hypothesis does.

    As far as lacking "a real underlying metaphysic", that's sort of true if you consider "50,000 years of separate evolution" to be an insufficient metaphysic. But even if it is insufficient, many—perhaps most—hypotheses lack a metaphysic (though some imply one, which is often what the journalists who report on such things want to play up, though it is almost never necessarily validated by the actual evidence for the hypothesis).

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  • I wonder if anyone else here has any well-organized thoughts about this. Right here on this very website, Paul Craig Roberts has a piece up in which he links to a Substack post by Donald Jeffries, the burden of which is to disabuse the reader of the belief in black athletic superiority. Jeffries claims that blacks have benefitted from a massive Affirmative Action-like campaign at every level that promotes them well beyond their abilities in sports—a claim that has often been made here, as well—and he has an upcoming book all about the subject.

    I don’t much care for the post itself. Jeffries writes in a cantankerous, kvetching manner that rather ill-befits the habit of the contrarian, who above all things must be confident in his assertions; but let that not detract from the logical analysis of the point. If the contention is right—and I believe it is—it puts the HBD community in a somewhat interesting predicament, and that is the more fascinating effect (in my opinion).

    Assuming this is correct, it more or less kicks the last plank out of the decrepitating HBD party platform, which had long upheld the myth of black athletic superiority as a collateral hypothesis alongside its beliefs about black IQ and black criminality, the whole cluster of traits being thought to be the result of a divergent genetic heritage between blacks and whites (according to the HBDers). This is where things get difficult, for as I have pointed out before, HBD seems to exhibit a sort of keto-enol tautomerism whereby it can take two separate forms without altering its basic chemical composition.

    In the first sense, we have HBD proper, which is the so-called hypothesis that blacks’ lower performance with respect to a host of social indicators is a direct result of “biology,” i.e. a different genetic profile when compared with whites. It is heavy on evolutionary theory, quantishness, statistics, and biochemistry, all purporting to prove that these differences are both inherited and unalterable by cultural influence. This is the keto-form.

    In the second sense, we have HBD not so much as a specific theory but more as a loose synecdoche for a very broad-based complaint about the state of racial politics in the contemporary West. In this mode, concerns over the illegality and imprudence of the Civil Rights-era reforms and Affirmative Action predominate, along with global denunciations of white virtue signaling and permissiveness towards black misbehavior. This is the enol-form.

    The two forms are usually held in unsteady equilibrium; the same minds tend to believe both, although they are not entirely compatible with each other. The interesting thing about Jeffries’ post is that here they are brought into direct opposition, and HBDers are going to have to decide what they really believe about all this. Are blacks overrepresented in sports because of their superior endowment of fast-twitch muscle fibers, acquired over thousands of generations bounding up and down the Sahel; or have they been the beneficiaries or unfair quota systems, here as elsewhere?

    I firmly predict that the hard, keto-form of HBD will prove to be unsupportable, and that much more recondite sociocultural (and even spiritual) factors are needed to explain the reality and politics of race as we understand it today. In the meantime, the purveyors of keto-HBD like Steve Sailer must be made to answer for their vandalism of the subject. Keto-HBD has wasted huge amounts of time and probably set the intellectual development of Rightest politics in America back at least 25 years. Undoing this damage will take a great amount of effort, but there are many promising signs that the tide has turned, with the fading of this blog’s prominence being one of the most visible.

    • Disagree: Currdog73, MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I can see you never attended school with any significant number of Blacks. HBD is verified by first hand observation. People who don’t believe it never lived in and among large numbers of Blacks. It pays to verify things with direct observation.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    In the first sense, we have HBD proper […] all purporting to prove that these differences are both inherited and unalterable by cultural influence. [e.a.]
     
    Nice straw man. Who among HBD proponents claims the latter? Sailer sure doesn’t.

    Are blacks overrepresented in sports because of their superior endowment of fast-twitch muscle fibers, acquired over thousands of generations bounding up and down the Sahel; or have they been the beneficiaries or unfair quota systems, here as elsewhere?
     
    Why not possibly both? You’re reaching with a false dichotomy. Don’t strain yourself.

    I firmly predict that the hard, keto-form of HBD will prove to be unsupportable, and that much more recondite sociocultural (and even spiritual) factors are needed to explain the reality and politics of race as we understand it today.
     
    You haven’t yet answered my question from upthread: In your estimation, how many mestizos and Blacks will read your “recondite” book?

    the tide has turned, with the fading of this blog’s prominence being one of the most visible
     
    Sherlock, I hope you realize that Sailer has long decamped to Substack and has an increasing number of subscribers there. It’s no longer a “blog” here; it’s literally a series of open threads with no MC.

    Replies: @Greta Handel

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Assuming the "keto" and "enol" models are both sound, the apparent contradiction could be resolved by a comparative advantage-type analysis.

    In other words, even if one race, "B", is inferior both at math and sports, it might choose to specialize in sports anyway because its disadvantage in sports compared to race "A" is less than in math. And race "A" might accept race "B"'s domination of the sports trade because it is still more profitable for race "A" to dominate the math trade rather than to exploit its lesser advantage in the sports trade.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I wonder if anyone else here has any well-organized thoughts about this. Right here on this very website, Paul Craig Roberts has a piece up in which he links to a Substack post by Donald Jeffries, the burden of which is to disabuse the reader of the belief in black athletic superiority. Jeffries claims that blacks have benefitted from a massive Affirmative Action-like campaign at every level that promotes them well beyond their abilities in sports—a claim that has often been made here, as well—and he has an upcoming book all about the subject.

    It would depend on the sport.

    I can state that Blacks would dominate basketball in any scenario. Anyone who has lived near Blacks knows why that is the case. I used to live near good courts (aka the White area of the city) and Blacks would come in from the ghetto to use them. I honestly did not know it was possible to play basketball for 12 hours. Blacks would even sometimes sleep in the bushes near the court and wake up to play. I saw this one kid sleep with a Gatorade bottle. They will play all day with a fruit punch Gatorade for calories.

    As for football there are indeed certain types of subsidies and programs in Black areas. But it is a complicated subject since Whites have been pulling their kids from football over safety concerns. It isn't as if all races try to play these sports at equal rates.

    I firmly predict that the hard, keto-form of HBD will prove to be unsupportable, and that much more recondite sociocultural (and even spiritual) factors are needed to explain the reality and politics of race as we understand it today.

    What are you saying? There would be a proportionate number of Asian offensive guards if there were enough correct sociocultural and spiritual factors?

    , @kaganovitch
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I don’t much care for the post itself. Jeffries writes in a cantankerous, kvetching manner that rather ill-befits the habit of the contrarian, who above all things must be confident in his assertions; but let that not detract from the logical analysis of the point. If the contention is right—and I believe it is—it puts the HBD community in a somewhat interesting predicament, and that is the more fascinating effect (in my opinion).
     
    It's almost complete piffle. Insofar as it is true, HBD is hardly implicated. Two different things are being conflated here. Pure athletic ability such as sprint speed,etc., and success in a given sport such as NFL or NBA. Pure athletic ability is an input in this success but hardly the only route to success. Do you think 'affirmative action' explains why the top 60 100m sprint times in history are all held by West African descended runners? Do you think 2 billion South Asians and East Asians with very, very different attitude/experience of Blacks are cucking in their favor? If after reading Jeffries' essay you 'believe the contention is right', it's because you went in thinking so, not because of any persuasive facts/reasoning you saw there .

    Replies: @res

  • @Almost Missouri
    @Mark G.


    David Stockman provided the statistic on his Substack that the U.S. industrial production index increased at an annual rate of 3.3% from 1954 to 2007. During the last seventeen years, the annual rate of increase dropped down to 0.10%.
     
    Thanks.

    Have a link?

    Replies: @Mark G., @Intelligent Dasein

    You can read the relevant David Stockman post here on Lew Rockwell, without needing to subscribe to anything.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/08/david-stockman/america-dont-need-no-independent-fed/

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  • @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You are trying to localize all evil in one little group and that is not accurate. For example, "Intelligent Dasein" is fine with our race being wiped out as long as whoever remains practices Tradition.

    Most religious fanatics are that way. Catholic assimilationists, Evangelicals adopting Black babies, etc.

    If Whites act foolish or have a lack of loyalty to their own people, someone will take advantage of it. Traitors are far worse than enemies.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Intelligent Dasein

    For example, “Intelligent Dasein” is fine with our race being wiped out as long as whoever remains practices Tradition.

    Don’t put that garbage into my mouth. I am not “fine” with anybody being “wiped out,” and you certainly cannot produce any quote of mine asserting as much. Your hysterical commenting has now crossed the line. Unfortunately, you’ve been encouraged in this libelous behavior by many other commenters here who really ought to have known better, so the fault is not entirely yours.

    Part of the reason why White Nationalism will never be anything more than a fringe position is because people like you obviously do not understand what is being said to them. You’ve whitewashed yourself into a corner that is far too narrow to contain the larger realities with which others have to deal, so they rightfully regard you as a curiosity, and move on.

    You would be well advised to stop commenting and to read something a bit more substantive than the tenth-rate internet scribblers on which you’ve been weened. This is a waste of everyone’s time—including yours.

  • @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I have repeatedly called for an end to Affirmative Action, disparate impact, and preferential treatment for anybody, and I have now done so in print, under my own name—in the book. I have devoted considerable space to explaining both the economic consequences of such nonproductive spending, and the Scriptural exegesis that proves that such things run counter to Christian charity, and I have done so in print, under my own name—in the book.

    What is your response to Christians who say that there is no such thing as race? If we all came from Adam and Even then race is just coloring that somehow developed.

    If race is just paint color then racial inequality is externally caused.

    Christians that support AA would be trying to fix what they believe is an artificial inequality. Or better yet why should they take the time to oppose it? Liberals would say they are motivated by racism since race is a social construct. Why would they risk being called racist over a program that is trying to fix the result of racism?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    What is your response to Christians who say that there is no such thing as race?

    Like who?

    I’m not aware of any serious contemporary theologian or public intellectual who is making a big deal out of this. You need to stop pretending that this is some kind of ongoing problem. It isn’t.

    Christianity has very little to say about race per se, other than to affirm that Jesus is the Lord of all creation and the sole source of salvation for all those who are saved, and that ethnicity and nationality are no bar to receiving His mercy. Anybody with half a brain can plainly see that this is in no way equivalent to saying that “there is no such thing as race” in the physical sense.

    When laypeople intone pious bromides like “all men are created equal” and other suchlike sayings, it is clear to me that they are simply making inexpert reference to the Christian truth mentioned above, while probably also being influenced by the egalitarian spirit of the times; but Christianity does not need to answer for the latter, and in any case, the loosely held enthusiasms of laypeople are not really “Christianity” anyway.

    There is nothing in Christian doctrine that says, “there is no such thing as race.” This is nowhere to be found in Sacred Scripture or Sacred Tradition, nor can it be logically deduced therefrom. There is no theologian of any note who ever held such a view with a firm and examined philosophical conviction. It is not something anyone takes seriously.

    I fully suspect that you know all this already. You don’t really expect me to believe that you are genuinely perplexed and frustrated by a horde of Bible-thumpers constantly insisting that “there is no such thing as race,” do you? You are raising a red herring just to generate some kind of response from me that you can further impugn. This is a waste of time, and I do not appreciate it.

    You are not confused by any of this, so stop crapping around.

    • LOL: Mike Conrad
    • Replies: @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I’m not aware of any serious contemporary theologian or public intellectual who is making a big deal out of this. You need to stop pretending that this is some kind of ongoing problem. It isn’t.
     
    Correct. The exception is the Episcopal Church which barely exists anymore because they are promoting the nonsense Johnson attributes to Christianity generally. The other is that weirdo David French who writes for the failed once conservative magazine National Review.

    Replies: @Mark G., @MEH 0910

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You don't know what I think you're wrong about? For the damn 3rd time, but I'll use bold this time:


    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
     
    No, you're wrong. They have NOT started to work. Things are worse, in fact. That is, unless by "working", you mean working at destroying the nation.

    But, I guess that big word "proleptically ", gets you you off the hook somehow... OK...

    .

    Haha, even spellcheck doesn't know it, but I'll believe you over my instance of spellcheck still.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Corpse Tooth, @Pericles, @Corvinus, @Moshe Def

    No, you’re wrong. They have NOT started to work. Things are worse, in fact. That is, unless by “working”, you mean working at destroying the nation.

    By “working,” I mean that they have successfully incorporated the diverse elements of the nation into a single system of publicly permissible expressions and behaviors that I have called “the ethics of the market square,” the underlying desideratum of which is to smooth and facilitate the rule of money. I have shown how this system of pseudo-ethics becomes crystalized into the positive law of urbanized environments (the “traffic”) and then becomes an overwhelming hydrodynamic flow (the “weather”) that sets the tone for collective behavior throughout modernity’s ambit. This force becomes a “city spirit” that I eventually show to be identical with Mammon, whom it is not possible to serve when serving God. Finally, I point out the historical necessity of overcoming this spirit, and a strategy for doing so, which no other discussion of this topic has even approached with comparable specificity.

    Sounds interesting, no? Too bad you have already decided not to read it.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I have shown how this system of pseudo-ethics becomes crystalized into the positive law of urbanized environments (the “traffic”) and then becomes an overwhelming hydrodynamic flow (the “weather”) that sets the tone for collective behavior throughout modernity’s ambit.
     
    ID, in your estimation, how many mestizos and Blacks will read your book?
  • @Sam Hildebrand
    @Intelligent Dasein


    As a Currdog returneth to the vomit…
     
    Cute. I’ve got one for you: because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit your virtue signaling out of my mouth.

    Either go with: because of slavery we should allow black bucks to bareback our white daughters and slaughter our white sons.

    Or

    Blacks need to be held accountable for their bad behavior. No more preferential treatment. End all affirmative action. Without mercy imprison all violent blacks. Stop all immigration from shithole countries.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Currdog73

    I have repeatedly called for an end to Affirmative Action, disparate impact, and preferential treatment for anybody, and I have now done so in print, under my own name—in the book. I have devoted considerable space to explaining both the economic consequences of such nonproductive spending, and the Scriptural exegesis that proves that such things run counter to Christian charity, and I have done so in print, under my own name—in the book.

    Similarly, I have repeatedly likened immigration to an exploitative form of revenue extraction that operates like an inverse Export-Land model, I have strongly favored its elimination, and I have done so in print, under my own name—in the book.

    I have made even more controversial claims that I doubt anyone here would be bold enough to attach their names to, pseudonymous or otherwise; but to get a taste of those, I invite you to pick up a copy. If you’re going to speak to me, it would helpful if you knew what you were talking about, and for that you will need to reread—or in your case, simple read—what I actually wrote.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I have repeatedly called for an end to Affirmative Action, disparate impact, and preferential treatment for anybody, and I have now done so in print, under my own name—in the book. I have devoted considerable space to explaining both the economic consequences of such nonproductive spending, and the Scriptural exegesis that proves that such things run counter to Christian charity, and I have done so in print, under my own name—in the book.

    What is your response to Christians who say that there is no such thing as race? If we all came from Adam and Even then race is just coloring that somehow developed.

    If race is just paint color then racial inequality is externally caused.

    Christians that support AA would be trying to fix what they believe is an artificial inequality. Or better yet why should they take the time to oppose it? Liberals would say they are motivated by racism since race is a social construct. Why would they risk being called racist over a program that is trying to fix the result of racism?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Sam Hildebrand
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I guess I misunderstood you when you said affirmative action was wrong and costly but it actually helped blacks be better citizens and unlimited immigration is costly but after a couple generations Mexicans are great citizens.

    This is trying to appeal to both sides. Trying to point out your independent and smart perspective. Lukewarm.

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Again:


    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
     
    Before I list how you are wrong about all 4, let me say that I understand the you agree that all of these have screwed over the White man for 60 years running. Even if your statement above were true, it'd all still be wrong. (In some way, you agree with SS on this. He's not a big believer in basic principles.)

    1) Civil Rights: Per Chris Caldwall, in his The Age of Entitlement*, Civil Rights law was an overhaul of much of the US Constitution. It has indeed create first one, and then other, classes of entitled people who for 3 generations now have higher and higher expectations when the economy, for one thing, is getting worse and worse for them.

    2) AA: This explains why, even though the one guy at the supply store is pretty good to deal with, I have NO confidence that black men or women that work for a living can do their jobs competently. Black people get promoted or hired above their capabilities. I hate being the next guy in line when the bank teller is a black lady, or guy. There's just that much more chance of things getting screwed up. Same anywhere. I would rather pretend I am busy on my phone, let someone else get helped and get to deal with the White guy.**

    Now that some of Fed Gov is being cut, the artificial black middle class (a big chunk of the total BMC) is being seen for what it is. AA created all this.

    3) Welfare: This has probably been the very worst of it. It's not quite the same for White hands, but black idle hands do the devils work. Now, we have 3-4 generations in which the men in the family have not held steady jobs and the women have churned out kids to be supported by people like you, I.D. and me.

    It's dysgenic. I've written before here of working with 3 different light-skinned black ladies (one married to a White man) who were very competent. Among these 3, who were (of course) decent looking compared to your weave-pullers, there was ONE child. The were no more coming due to age. Then, at the grocery, there will be the welfare queens with 3-4 kids in tow.

    4) Forced integration: All that's done is breed contempt and cause stress in White people's lives. As I wrote at the top, you might agree that forced integration via busing has been painful for White kids (to say the least!), but you think it's been a success. No way. Where they have a choice, White AND black people will keep separated. Look at the churches. Where we can't change as easily, such as in our neighborhoods, all we see is Real Estate agents and bankers LUVIN IT, as white people get the hell away, then the blacks move further out to that new magic dirt, than more churn***, as they move again, then some gentrification back at the old places years later with the usual bitching, etc., etc.

    I don't want black neighbors, I.D. To me, that says it all. They could be folks like the Huxtables even, but, pretty soon, due to other family, guests, newer neighbors, stuff will start getting stolen or trashed, and I will just plain not like being there.

    Before all this, the South had the only solution that would keep order and keep Whites reasonably safe, and the North and everywhere else had no black people, so that's why the country worked better then racially.

    .

    * That links to a not-completely-favorable PS review.

    ** At the auto parts store, I can assume that only a White man knows his stuff at a time when I do need a little advice. I assume most black men, and ALL women, don't really understand shit about cars. The one time, I specifically said "Hey, let me talk to a White guy about this." This actually went over pretty well - they all know...

    *** Paul Kersey, on this very blog, has done a splendid job it laying this out, especially wrt the huge Atlanta metro area (12 counties maybe?), as whole counties go from 90% White to majority black in as little as a couple of decades.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Before I list how you are wrong about all 4,

    Since I don’t really disagree with any of this, I am not sure what you think I’m wrong about. I am not saying whatever it is you think I am saying. Stop proleptically reacting to any perceived difference and try to understand the words.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Hang in there, but Achmed’s always seemed to write twice as much as he reads, and to type twice as fast as he thinks. A man who’s even bragged about avoiding “commies” and other authors here at TUR who might challenge his views.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You don't know what I think you're wrong about? For the damn 3rd time, but I'll use bold this time:


    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
     
    No, you're wrong. They have NOT started to work. Things are worse, in fact. That is, unless by "working", you mean working at destroying the nation.

    But, I guess that big word "proleptically ", gets you you off the hook somehow... OK...

    .

    Haha, even spellcheck doesn't know it, but I'll believe you over my instance of spellcheck still.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Corpse Tooth, @Pericles, @Corvinus, @Moshe Def

  • @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein

    From Bureau of Labor Statistics webpage dated 2018. https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2018/article/blacks-in-the-labor-force.htm


    Black percent of labor force compared to Black population growth has been declining since 2006.

    About one-quarter of Blacks in the labor force in 1976 were in the 16- to 24-year-old group. The share of this youngest labor force group of Blacks declined to 15.2 percent in 2016, and it is projected to continue declining, to 12.4 percent, in 2026.

    The share of the oldest labor force groups—those ages 55 and older—is expected to account for 19.5 percent (nearly 1 in 5) Blacks in the labor force in 2026, up from 17.3 percent in 2016 and 12.5 percent in 1976.

    The overall labor force participation rate for Blacks, like the rates for all race groups, is projected to decline by the year 2026. But as the rates differ for men and women.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    As you mentioned, this is true for all demographics and there are a whole host of reasons for it, but the pattern is the same everywhere. Understanding those background reasons would form the substance of a real economic analysis, such as my own. Statistics are a premise, not a conclusion.

    It’s strange—for example, even many of the more “numerate” commenters here often make comments that imply (or directly reveal) that they do not realize that both the black and Hispanic TFRs are well below the replacement rate, even among recent immigrants. America as a whole has an inverted population pyramid (i.e. more older people than younger people), but this is also true of every race taken singly.

    The Sailer commentariat has, by and large, one of the most obsolete lists of priors of any community on the internet—a problem worsened by their insufferable belief that they represent “the cutting edge of societal evolution” (h/t Rush Limbaugh). Any attempt to educate them out of this impasse is seen as invading the tree fort and triggers their siege mentality, so they never learn.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein


    ... both the black and Hispanic TFRs are well below the replacement rate, even among recent immigrants. America as a whole has an inverted population pyramid (i.e. more older people than younger people), but this is also true of every race taken singly.
     
    Yes, I was thinking of this as I wrote you, but this replacement for blacks is dysgenic. Additionally what Mr. Sailer had noted only occasionally (he did in his Tucker interview), and I have in my 2-part Coming to America series is that black immigration, mostly legal, has been huge. See Part 1 and Part 2.

    .

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/post_3009B.jpg

    .


    https://www.peakstupidity.com/images/post_3011B.jpg

    Oh, but they're the smart ones coming, right? Yes, that's why Big Biz hires them - I've seen black Africans (speaking French a lot) all over. They ARE generally better workers. However 3 things:

    1) That's only for now. Family reunification visas, etc., will bring all the more worthless people over, just as with the Indians.

    2) Reversion to the mean. So, people are going "Whewwww, that 13% will stay the same or maybe even go down slowly." Nope, sorry to tell you, but not with this immigration system.

    3) Culturally (your point, right?), due to that inherent tribalism, even when they do see the American black people as lazy and hostile, they and their children will culturally go in that direction and side with blackety-blackety-black.

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    "-- With enough time, black social indicators normalize into the white range.

    -- Ah, more handwaving. What indicators?"

    Black social indicators normalize into the white range.

    What is meant is, (or at least what we can observe is), we get a small crop of literate properly dressed black youth with no felonies, who drive a Benz that isn't stolen and who have names that can be said aloud without giggling. As someone above noted, even that much is merely the product of absurd amounts of cartoon-level affirmative action Twister and gubmint make-work, with a few per-usual tycoons and their hangers-on from sports and entertainment.

    It is telling that after every single college-age black kid with reasonable intelligence gets instantly vacuumed up into the Ivy League stratosphere, there aren't enough intelligent black kids left to make up a top-notch graduating class in one their vaunted HBCUs. The kids who at one point at least made Howard sort of respectable are now all camping out in Currier House, keeping Skip Gates in a paycheck. And Howard and Morehouse and so forth can't get enough leftovers to fill a Comp Sci department with students who can explain how point and click works. The bench is pretty durn shallow.

    But even for all that Herculean effort, these literate well-behaved blacks still continue to believe Really Stupid Black Things, they believe Fake Black History, vote black, read black, think blackety-blackety-blackblackblack. They don't really see themselves as part of the same country. Well at least they're probably right about that, since there no longer really is a country.

    My indicator of normality would be this: a couple of black novelists actually write good novels about things like the all-white development of Cubism in Paris circa 1919, or an expedition to Antarctica, or the life of Coco Chanel. White American literature is full of odd topics like the whaling industry and the building of the V-2 rocket. I'll think blacks are normative when they write and read things about something, anything, other than the Woes of Being Black Black Black.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Intelligent Dasein, @OilcanFloyd

    My indicator of normality would be this: a couple of black novelists actually write good novels about things like the all-white development of Cubism in Paris circa 1919, or an expedition to Antarctica, or the life of Coco Chanel.

    Comments like this perfectly illustrate why you and the others here keep missing the point. These things aren’t “normal.” Most white people don’t do them, either. “Normal,” in this context, means being a basically law-abiding guy and holding down a job driving a forklift, or some such. It does not require any rare talent to do such things, but it does require overcoming the rampant dysfunction of the ghetto culture. The majority of blacks have now done this; it is not merely “the talented tenth” who are gainfully employed, and if you think otherwise, there is not much I can say to convince you of anything.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "perfectly illustrate why you and the others here keep missing the point. These things aren’t “normal.” Most white people don’t do them, either."

    Well you prefer your own definition of normal, but I prefer mine, and mine is more umbrella-like. High-end cultural preferences are up high because they are supported by lower cultural preferences from beneath. A serious black novelist who actually wrote a critically acclaimed novel positing that the Underground Railroad was an actual railroad that ran underground could not have written such a colossally stupid thing without a readership to back him up.

    Anybody with a certain skill-set and baseline IQ can be a bus driver. But you know what isn't normal? A black bus driver who votes for Jasmine Crockett and donates money to a fund to help buy a house for a black teenage murderer who stabbed a white teen to death, specifically *because* he stabbed a *white* teen to death. So you see why I might think that it's you who are missing the point.

    , @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein

    From Bureau of Labor Statistics webpage dated 2018. https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2018/article/blacks-in-the-labor-force.htm


    Black percent of labor force compared to Black population growth has been declining since 2006.

    About one-quarter of Blacks in the labor force in 1976 were in the 16- to 24-year-old group. The share of this youngest labor force group of Blacks declined to 15.2 percent in 2016, and it is projected to continue declining, to 12.4 percent, in 2026.

    The share of the oldest labor force groups—those ages 55 and older—is expected to account for 19.5 percent (nearly 1 in 5) Blacks in the labor force in 2026, up from 17.3 percent in 2016 and 12.5 percent in 1976.

    The overall labor force participation rate for Blacks, like the rates for all race groups, is projected to decline by the year 2026. But as the rates differ for men and women.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I went to college with the "talented tenth" and it undermined what the liberal professors were telling us. It also undermined Christian conservative theories of "da big government" being the problem cause unions hold back the schools and blah blah blah conservative bullshit.

    I sat through endless lectures on how race was just made up by nasty White men and then at lunch in the cafeteria the selected tenth would yell full volume about chicken wings. YO DAWNTE YALL GETTIN DEM WINGS? Then they would rudely crowd the soda machine for Hi-C and lots of straws. They clearly lacked a sense of awareness and social control. They thought it was perfectly fine to blast rap while walking around the halls.

    Liberals tell us that it is all cultural. Right.

    It's just a GRAND CULTURAL COINCIDENCE that in Jamaica the Blacks like chicken wings, constant music and use a pidgin English.

    You mock Germ's observations and yet it is reality that mocks you back.

    How many books do you own have a Jamaican author?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Nobody thinks just because all the criminals in the prison are negroes that all negroes belong in prison.

    Now go read this:

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-talk-nonblack-version/

    Replies: @Sam Hildebrand

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I watched your video. As intelligent as you come across, I.D., I don't see how you could have read iSteve for years and not understood him on one of his main subjects. He has done a great job over the years explaining in common-senseical ways but with plenty of statistics the differences among the races. Between Steve Sailer and (to a smaller extent) "Paul Kersey", I have learned a whole lot to explain what I seen over a lifetime with my own eyes, which is that the races are very different and it's most assuredly due to genetics.

    I get a feeling you don't get out much. Steve Sailer hasn't either, except for over the last couple of years. He is better at figuring things out, obviously. What you think is normal with the Hispanics is not American normal. Incompetence abounds now. Black dysfunction has only gotten worse.


    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
     
    Like hell they have. Currdog is right. This comment of yours has made a book purchase decision very easy for me. I imagine your economic discussion could be very interesting, but I gotta go with " Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus." Saves me time...

    Years and years of writing by Mr. Sailer and the commenters, and you take time to call them out in your video, without having learned a damn thing from all that writing. As the man said, C'mon, man!

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Mark G., @MEH 0910

    Like hell they have. Currdog is right. This comment of yours has made a book purchase decision very easy for me.

    So, I’ll send you a freebie and you can fisk it. Should be easy, right? Does Peak Stupidity have a PO Box? Don’t deprive the world of your superior outlook.

    Honestly, Achmed, this whole comment is pretty lame. You hear the call of the apostle but you’re afraid of the murmur of the crowds, so you go running back to your fishing boat. As a Currdog returneth to the vomit…

    I’ll miss your normally cheerful self. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    OK, I'm replying to both you and Mark G. here, at least in this first part. Yes, I too, see that black men without idle hands can often be reasonable and fit in in society. That guy at counter the "supply" store* can be just fine to deal with. Maybe 1/3 or 1/2 of the black women at the bank or the highway dept. office can be pleasant to deal with and accomplish their job... with no above and beyond though, ever.

    The black church ladies are people whom you can feel comfortable around to some degree. They are much less likely to chimp out, ... at least during the service. ;-}

    The fact is, and what you should have learned (if not from reality due to your location?) from iSteve and the commenters over the years is that there's a reversion to the mean and to genetically-rooted behavior. I'm not talking about IQ in particular here. As Mike Tre pointed out, that's not all of what's important. What I mean is that when things get stressful for them, almost all black people will revert to tribalism, even the church ladies.**

    Another way they don't fit in with White society is that they generally just don't care enough. They quit caring very early on. It's why you can get through the Home Depot line with some individual screws that you don't have a SKU for. As the White people go that extra mile (using up my time, unfortunately), knowing that keeping track of the inventory does matter or just "DO THE JOB RIGHT", you will not find that trait in most black people. They'll just type in something or let you take em.

    I'll continue in another comment.
    .

    * Kinda like a hardware store but bigger specializing in plumbing, electrical, etc, set up more for tradesmen, and with more knowledgeable employees than your Home Depots.

    ** Also, look at how they vote - they care about one thing besides Jesus, black people. In the meantime the White church ladies care about everyone else but themselves. Often, BTW, that can be just as bad, as I think you're more likely to see the White ladies work to import Somalians and Haitians than the black ladies.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Again:


    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
     
    Before I list how you are wrong about all 4, let me say that I understand the you agree that all of these have screwed over the White man for 60 years running. Even if your statement above were true, it'd all still be wrong. (In some way, you agree with SS on this. He's not a big believer in basic principles.)

    1) Civil Rights: Per Chris Caldwall, in his The Age of Entitlement*, Civil Rights law was an overhaul of much of the US Constitution. It has indeed create first one, and then other, classes of entitled people who for 3 generations now have higher and higher expectations when the economy, for one thing, is getting worse and worse for them.

    2) AA: This explains why, even though the one guy at the supply store is pretty good to deal with, I have NO confidence that black men or women that work for a living can do their jobs competently. Black people get promoted or hired above their capabilities. I hate being the next guy in line when the bank teller is a black lady, or guy. There's just that much more chance of things getting screwed up. Same anywhere. I would rather pretend I am busy on my phone, let someone else get helped and get to deal with the White guy.**

    Now that some of Fed Gov is being cut, the artificial black middle class (a big chunk of the total BMC) is being seen for what it is. AA created all this.

    3) Welfare: This has probably been the very worst of it. It's not quite the same for White hands, but black idle hands do the devils work. Now, we have 3-4 generations in which the men in the family have not held steady jobs and the women have churned out kids to be supported by people like you, I.D. and me.

    It's dysgenic. I've written before here of working with 3 different light-skinned black ladies (one married to a White man) who were very competent. Among these 3, who were (of course) decent looking compared to your weave-pullers, there was ONE child. The were no more coming due to age. Then, at the grocery, there will be the welfare queens with 3-4 kids in tow.

    4) Forced integration: All that's done is breed contempt and cause stress in White people's lives. As I wrote at the top, you might agree that forced integration via busing has been painful for White kids (to say the least!), but you think it's been a success. No way. Where they have a choice, White AND black people will keep separated. Look at the churches. Where we can't change as easily, such as in our neighborhoods, all we see is Real Estate agents and bankers LUVIN IT, as white people get the hell away, then the blacks move further out to that new magic dirt, than more churn***, as they move again, then some gentrification back at the old places years later with the usual bitching, etc., etc.

    I don't want black neighbors, I.D. To me, that says it all. They could be folks like the Huxtables even, but, pretty soon, due to other family, guests, newer neighbors, stuff will start getting stolen or trashed, and I will just plain not like being there.

    Before all this, the South had the only solution that would keep order and keep Whites reasonably safe, and the North and everywhere else had no black people, so that's why the country worked better then racially.

    .

    * That links to a not-completely-favorable PS review.

    ** At the auto parts store, I can assume that only a White man knows his stuff at a time when I do need a little advice. I assume most black men, and ALL women, don't really understand shit about cars. The one time, I specifically said "Hey, let me talk to a White guy about this." This actually went over pretty well - they all know...

    *** Paul Kersey, on this very blog, has done a splendid job it laying this out, especially wrt the huge Atlanta metro area (12 counties maybe?), as whole counties go from 90% White to majority black in as little as a couple of decades.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Sam Hildebrand
    @Intelligent Dasein


    As a Currdog returneth to the vomit…
     
    Cute. I’ve got one for you: because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit your virtue signaling out of my mouth.

    Either go with: because of slavery we should allow black bucks to bareback our white daughters and slaughter our white sons.

    Or

    Blacks need to be held accountable for their bad behavior. No more preferential treatment. End all affirmative action. Without mercy imprison all violent blacks. Stop all immigration from shithole countries.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Currdog73

  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
     
    Do they actually “do quite well” ? Some mestizos may rise to a ceiling of mediocrity, but that isn’t “doing quite well” in an “Anglo” context.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Do they actually “do quite well” ? Some mestizos may rise to a ceiling of mediocrity, but that isn’t “doing quite well” in an “Anglo” context.

    Yes, they actually do. Many people around this blog have a conception of Mexicans that is distant and outmoded. But I lived in Greater Denver/Northern Colorado for three and a half decades, and I watched the entire transformation take place.

    When I was a kid, most of the Mexicans one would run into there were Cholos or the children of Cholos. They tended to be thuggish, crime-prone, uninterested in any sort of higher culture, and best avoided. But today, there are hundreds of thousands of Mexicans there, across all socioeconomic classes, who are simply “normal.” They speak English without an accent, send their children to school, and are upwardly mobile within the limits of their circumstances. There are no behavioral differences between them and Caucasian people of equivalent social rank, for all the good and bad that implies.

    Even with blacks, something similar is occurring. The American South and the rustbelt cities of the Midwest and Ohio Valley still have their core populations of what might be called “ghetto blacks,” with everything we understand in that term; but around the periphery, there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.” They work, they pay their bills, their children have abandoned Ebonics, etc.

    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work. That does not mean that it was worth the cost, and it does not mean that it was good policy; but it does mean that the basic premise of HBD is, essentially speaking, not true. With enough time, black social indicators normalize into the white range. The differences that still exist are the result neither of genetics nor “structural racism,” but of profoundly different historical and cultural legacies.

    One cannot make a black child behave like a white child simply by “educating” him—that is, by bussing him from a black neighborhood to an affluent white school district—when everything else about his home life and environment are still starkly different. After all, education is but one small subset of a larger process of acculturation that requires many generations to achieve, and the more important roots of acculturation are ineffable and unquantifiable. It took white people 250 years of modernity to get to their current state, and black people, as a group, have not had an analogous process of development; however, with the massive opportunities afforded by the late 20th century, many blacks as individuals and families are starting to make the shift.

    Again, the fact that this is possible does not mean that it is either morally obligatory or financially feasible. It is not within the remit of society to ensure that every single individual attain to the fullest flower of personal achievement, and forcing this mandate upon society only distorts it and disables it for its nonnegotiable function of providing for the commonweal. But countering this notion requires not a retreat into the pseudoscientific side-parlors of HBD, but a more general critique of the ethical presuppositions of modernity, and that is what my book provides.

    • Replies: @Currdog73
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That screed convinced me there is no point in buying/reading your "book".

    , @Pericles
    @Intelligent Dasein

    As far as I can see, lowered educational demands and preferential hiring, basically at the cost of white men and leading to social degradation. Leftist full-spectrum racism.


    there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.” They work, they pay their bills, their children have abandoned Ebonics, etc.

     

    What is the proportion compared to the rest of them? The usual 'talented tenth'?

    Does this effect transfer to the next generation or do we get the usual 'spiteful second generation' who realize they can't compete after all and get mad about it?
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Intelligent Dasein

    https://yourteenmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/copium-meaning-1135x540.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxRW-duSCLA

    , @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    One cannot make a black child behave like a white child simply by “educating” him—that is, by bussing him from a black neighborhood to an affluent white school district—when everything else about his home life and environment are still starkly different.

    That was the theory behind Head Start. Take Black kids from their homes in the morning and give them a breakfast along with additional education.

    In any case the program goals failed and that was admitted by liberals with PhDs in education. I learned about that after being taught in college that the program should remain. Meaning they didn't point out in college that the program goals failed. Imagine that. Liberals being dishonest about a racial program.

    Fortunately the program is at least based on income so Whites and other races are not excluded. But it amounts to giving the poor free pre-school while middle income Whites have to pay for it.

    Liberals of course don't see the irony in trying to fix Blacks by taking them from their parents. I have actually seen proposals from liberals that basically involve keeping Black kids at school until the evening and providing services like laundry and dinner to them. Not kidding. Liberal White women want to take Black children and raise them. That is what they truly desire without seeing the irony. Fixing racial inequality by having White women raise Black children.

    It took white people 250 years of modernity to get to their current state, and black people, as a group, have not had an analogous process of development

    Which dates are you using here and by what metric?

    White children of the 1800s did better in school than modern Whites.

    Replies: @Mike Conrad

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    There are no behavioral differences between them and Caucasian people of equivalent social rank, for all the good and bad that implies.
     
    Completely useless observation without including stats on relative proportions of “social rank” per respective racial group. How are you measuring per capita “social rank”? Academic test scores, crime rates, net income, etc.? You’d have to be obtusely innumerate to pretend that American-born mestizos in aggregate measure up to “Anglos”.

    …but around the periphery, there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.”
     
    No stats again, I see. How much has that “increasing number” increased, and how are you measuring it? Maybe you’re not a numbers guy and go on “feels”, LOL.

    With enough time, black social indicators normalize into the white range.
     
    Ah, more handwaving. What indicators? The visions in your head?

    a more general critique of the ethical presuppositions of modernity, and that is what my book provides
     
    For that kind of subject matter, of an American-born readership, what do you think the likely ratio of readers who are English-reading mestizo vs. “Anglo” would be? I think one per 10,000 would be a generously high estimate. :)

    Replies: @Currdog73, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @McFlurry
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I cannot speak on Denver, but I can tell you what I have observed in LA suburbs which have been completely transformed into ethnic enclaves of Mexicans. Let’s ignore the cholo crowd which still exists but, as you say, seems to be less common around here than 30 years ago.

    Middle class Mexicans (largely an artificial construct) do indeed share many of the traits with similarly matched Whites. They hold down jobs, pay taxes, and aren’t generally involved in blatant criminal activities. I still see significant differences in their modal personality traits when compared to whites. This constellation of personality traits leads to a distinct difference in the previously white neighborhoods, and these differences have not been for the better. Some examples just off the top of my head- very little concern with the general cleanliness of their neighborhoods, very low levels of compassion for both domestic and wild animals, corner-cutting at work, disregard for traffic laws, clannishness, little appreciation for the natural beauty at local beaches, lack of punctuality, relatively high rates of illegitimacy, etc.

    Again, I am talking about your middle-class Hispanic with IQs between, say, 90-115ish. They are simply not the same as whites in mindset, and this is reflected in all kinds of ways, big and small

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I watched your video. As intelligent as you come across, I.D., I don't see how you could have read iSteve for years and not understood him on one of his main subjects. He has done a great job over the years explaining in common-senseical ways but with plenty of statistics the differences among the races. Between Steve Sailer and (to a smaller extent) "Paul Kersey", I have learned a whole lot to explain what I seen over a lifetime with my own eyes, which is that the races are very different and it's most assuredly due to genetics.

    I get a feeling you don't get out much. Steve Sailer hasn't either, except for over the last couple of years. He is better at figuring things out, obviously. What you think is normal with the Hispanics is not American normal. Incompetence abounds now. Black dysfunction has only gotten worse.


    Three generations of civil rights, affirmative action, welfare, favoritism, and forced integration have started to work.
     
    Like hell they have. Currdog is right. This comment of yours has made a book purchase decision very easy for me. I imagine your economic discussion could be very interesting, but I gotta go with " Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus." Saves me time...

    Years and years of writing by Mr. Sailer and the commenters, and you take time to call them out in your video, without having learned a damn thing from all that writing. As the man said, C'mon, man!

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Mark G., @MEH 0910

    , @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I lived in Greater Denver/Northern Colorado for three and a half decades, and I watched the entire transformation take plac
     
    You meant ethnic cleansing. An event that in no way offends your "moral" sensibilities.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein


    but around the periphery, there are an increasing number of blacks who are simply “normal.” They work, they pay their bills, their children have abandoned Ebonics, etc.
     
    Better socialized but still incapable of learning algebra at comparable rates no matter what the change in social habits.
    , @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein

    White math performance is declining but Black math performance is declining more even in the suburbs. Moving to suburbs is not changing the intellectual abilities of Blacks for the better where math is concerned.


    Whereas nationally, 86% of white 4th graders were at least on grade level in mathematics, this was true for only 55% of black students. The national black score was pulled down by the dismal performance of black students in the poorest performing cities: Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia. In these five cities, the average share of black students performing at least at grade level was 28%, with none having more than 31%. These cities highlight the large math deficits experienced in many poor black neighborhoods nationally.

    Roughly 54% of black residents within the 100 largest American metro areas were suburbanites in 2020. The growing racial math performance gap for these suburban black students has important ramifications. A Brookings Report found that in 2019, only 7% of black test-takers score at least 600 on the math portion of the SAT exam. By contrast, 11%, 31%, and 62% of Latino, white, and Asian test-takers, respectively, did that well. These low scores indicate that a large portion black students are leaving high school without the tools to be successful in college STEM majors.

     

    https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2022/11/24/large_racial_reading_and_math_performance_gaps_persist_as_children_age_110794.html

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  • @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
     
    Ridiculous. ALL of Latin America is in bad shape under a variety of governments. The only exceptions are the whiter areas. It takes deliberate evasion not to see that.

    The answer is to be sought in liberal progressivism.
     

    Oh yeah, the way it ruined Denmark and Sweden.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Your reading comprehension has reached Tiny Duck levels of nonproficiency. Well done.

    • LOL: Currdog73
    • Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Well that's a non-answer. Sweden and Denmark are liberal progressive, they are the so-called Blue-Eyed Socialist Utopias. You know that. If you had a heart attack you would rather be in Scandinavia than any place in South or Central America. You would rather have an atheistic liberal White doctor than a Mestizo doctor who has "fully assimilated".

    "Traditionalists" (always a capital T) imply that everything we need to know was known long ago and we just need to return to it.

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Intelligent Dasein

    It'd be nice if Steve could jetpack off his Subshack for an hour and visit us stay behinds. He can use his alias -- Tiny Duck, which I thought humorous. I would also welcome the return of Art Deco. I miss his zingers. Physicist Dave came back for a hot minute. But then I mentioned Del Taco and my graveyard drive thru shift to him and he's never been back. I offered him free bean burritos if he'd stick around.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Corvinus, @Mike Tre

  • @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    One recent legitimate 4chan thread (as opposed to all the spamthreads) was about the normality of pædophilia in the Spanish-speaking world. On a regular basis, a tanned American is arrested at the hospital where he brought his pregnant wife, because his pregnant wife is twelve. One anon claimed to have worked construction and said part of his job was going out with the Spanish speakers at night to stop them from hitting on (little) girls. It's not quite as bad as it sounds. The places these guys come from are truly rural, there's no police department, and the relationships they're seeking are legitimate (marriage). I remember a shopkeeper I was buying ethnic pottery from spontaneously remarking, at a time when the news was ginning up age difference anxiety, that she was much, much younger than her husband when they met, but nobody had a problem with it because he was a respectable and propertied man seeking marriage.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality, @Intelligent Dasein

    I have extensively discussed this dynamic in my book, where I also tie it in with the lack of fertility throughout the developed world, the expansion of urbanization, the modernistic tendency to risk mitigation, and the comparative wealth of nations.

    Part Two: Problems of Living and Working
    Chapter 6: The Politics of Coworkers

    PRECISE: A question that often emerges in discussions of American economic history is, “Why is the USA so wealthy and advanced while Mexico is so poverty-stricken and backward?” The countries, after all, would seem to be similarly situated—e.g. abundant arable land, abundant mineral wealth and energy resources, long coastlines on both oceans facilitating global trade, etc. Conventional appeals to the “Protestant work ethic” do not satisfy, for the number of people whose religious beliefs consciously impact their work habits is vanishingly small. Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies. The answer is to be sought in liberal progressivism.

    Progressivism, if we define it by its sociological effects, has two main components: 1) It legalizes all the rackets. Behaviors that were prohibited or carried significant social risk in traditional societies (like loose sexual morality) are not only normalized but are stripped of many of their deleterious consequences by a deliberate program of risk mitigation carried out by; 2) The bureaucratization and financialization of social life. The substitution of “women’s liberation” for personal codes of honor in relations between the sexes requires the attendant construction of schools to educate women, hospitals to provide abortions and dispense birth control, and so forth. These urbane innovations are expensive and must be paid for using the typical neoliberal strategy of social-democratic debt monetization and exploitative resource extraction. Thus, the social and economic phases of progressivism advance, side by side.

    Because the traditional modes of social-sexual enforcement (e.g. killing the guy who deflowered your daughter or slept with your wife) do incur large frictional costs that prevent such societies from accumulating great amounts of liquid wealth, the replacement of such behavior by liberal-progressive risk mitigation really does “work”—for a few generations, anyway. Adult life becomes more and more comfortable, but this comfort is purchased at the expense of all the children who were never born while women were eschewing their matronly role. Future wealth is pulled forward into the present, there to be “financialized” into modern convenience and liberal institutions, with the inevitable, ever-increasing burden of public and private debt being the lengthening shadow threatening a day of reckoning.

    There is, therefore, a direct relationship between debt and modernism. Every break with tradition requires a quantum of economic sin that will continue to circulate until it is extinguished by production without consumption, which requires a prudential orientation towards property, family, and future. For the full fleshing-out of this idea, you’ll definitely want to read the entire book. There is much more where that came from. All this is explained in only one chapter, and there are more than thirty others, all similarly replete with insight. This is truly the most important sociological text yet published in the 21st century. It is also rip-roaring fun to read, so pick up your copy today.

    • Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
     
    Ridiculous. ALL of Latin America is in bad shape under a variety of governments. The only exceptions are the whiter areas. It takes deliberate evasion not to see that.

    The answer is to be sought in liberal progressivism.
     

    Oh yeah, the way it ruined Denmark and Sweden.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Racial explanations are obviated by the large number of Mestizos who assimilate and do quite well in Anglo societies.
     
    Do they actually “do quite well” ? Some mestizos may rise to a ceiling of mediocrity, but that isn’t “doing quite well” in an “Anglo” context.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  • @MEH 0910
    @Corvinus


    Indeed. Interesting that you found time to write your book given what apparently is happening to you. But it’s probably just a misunderstanding, right?
     
    That's the wrong Matthew Beck. Intelligent Dasein has previously appeared on video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwCVVIuIZvE


    Sincerity
    Mar 10, 2022
    In which I talk about who is genuine and who isn't in the Sailer blog comments.
     
    Midway through the video Intelligent Dasein sticks a tack in his arm to demonstrate that he is not afraid of vaccination needles.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Intelligent Dasein

    I would like to do a few more videos from time to time, now that there is no need to bother about the opsec. It’s a lot easier to engage that way. Anonymous discussion fora tend to give the advantage to whoever has the largest amount of free time to be a provocative, mouthy asshole who never need answer to anybody for his insults—an atmosphere hardly conducive to real thinking.

    I think those days are coming to an end. By some combination of law and cultural preference, the age of internet anonymity will give way to a time when attaching a real identity to your words will be the only way to get yourself taken seriously.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Anonymous discussion fora tend to give the advantage to whoever has the largest amount of free time to be a provocative, mouthy asshole who never need answer to anybody for his insults—an atmosphere hardly conducive to real thinking."

    And... you learned this in the fighting pits. Yes?

    Since you are temperamentally incapable of authentic tabletop conversation, and simply blast out at people at hurricane gale, you might be better off not trying to "engage" in however fashion you imagine that sort of thing to be in your mind. Maybe you should just write down your lofty ponderous thoughts with quill and parchment, high atop your mountain fastness, and leave the interactions to the provocative mouthy assholes.

    (L.S.I.H.F.F.I., eh?)

    , @Greta Handel
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I remember this video being embedded in one of the threads years ago, but had never watched it.

    Your assessment of Sailer and the several commenters named - both positive and negative - was and remains pretty solid. This was basically a copium den for disaffected white guys skewed 40+, which more malevolent characters hung around.

    , @Currdog73
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I just love the new police state don't you. As for opsec after losing my security clearance because I got fired for using the n word in a private conversation I quit worrying about such things. What would corvi do if we actually knew who he was. And don't kid yourself the feds know who every one of us on here are.

    Replies: @H.Jax, @Sam hildebrand

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Your short vocal imitation of Steve Sailer was damn good!

  • @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    ID - thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn't cost 500 dollars (like Sailer's gaudy memoir) I'd be interested in purchasing it.

    Since you're here, I'd be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don't have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump's tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.

    Hope all else is well.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Intelligent Dasein

    ID – thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn’t cost 500 dollars (like Sailer’s gaudy memoir) I’d be interested in purchasing it.

    Hello Mike! If there was some way we could connect offline, I’d be happy to send you a complimentary copy, but even apart from that, I don’t think the $21.99 that Amazon charges will break the bank. There may be parts of the book you disagree with, but I think there are other parts you would really enjoy. The main introductory theme involves using traffic congestion (a subject I’m sure you’ve had ample opportunity to meditate upon) as an extended metaphor for neoliberal economic failures. The ever-increasing numbers of people on the road, the poor road conditions, collective behavior imposing individual burdens, the debt that allows all these cars to be purchased, the consumerism that necessitates all these extra trips—the story of modern life is written in the fumes and frustrations of urban gridlock. There is even a special subchapter about spot market freight brokers. That, and much more besides.

    Since you’re here, I’d be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don’t have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump’s tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.

    It’s a nuanced subject, to be sure; but economics is all about nuance—it’s just the nature of the beast—so that’s how we’ll have to roll.

    Firstly, a little framing. I am certainly not against tariffs in principle. A protectionist trade policy is essential to industrializing (or in America’s case, reindustrializing) a nation. If Trump’s tariffs had been part of a comprehensive policy package aimed at onshoring industry and reducing exposure to counterparty geopolitical risk, then I would be all for them. America is in the rare and fortunate position of being one of the few nations on Earth that can function as an economic autarky. We don’t need trade at all, assuming we are willing to adopt reasonable expectations and live within our means, but therein lies the rub.

    Secondly, I concede the point that these tariffs will eventually raise consumer prices and reduce American standards of living. I’m willing to bite that bullet, because that was inevitable, anyway. Whether we choose the path of austerity, default, or debt monetization, all roads now lead to the same place. There is no way that America can solve its economic problems without pain and sacrifice (in the book, I refer to this convergence of outcomes, independent of policy, as the unity of the utopias). I argue that for America, at this point in time, inflation and debt monetization, working through a wage multiplier that functions like a reverse income tax, is actually the best policy, imposing the least amount of hardship on ordinary people and the most amount of hardship on the financial sector, where it is deserved. A subsiding tide lowers all boats, but inflation, done the right way, is “progressive” (to use the preferred nomenclature).

    The tariffs are a budgetarily equivalent but more “regressive” version of the same strategy. Furthermore, the fact that Trump is imposing them in an arbitrary and scattershot manner, leaves a lot to be desired. Although I have not really read Ron Unz on the subject, I can sympathize with those who are not entirely sanguine about how this all went down. But most frustrating of all is this: when Trump uses the imposition of tariffs as a threat and a negotiating tactic, it calls into question the whole rationale for instituting them at all.

    I mean, tariffs are either good or they’re bad. If they’re good, we should just do them. Is the purpose of the tariffs to rebuild American industry, or is it to keep Bolsonaro out of the Brazilian court system? It cannot be both. For Trump to tell American workers that he will enact protectionist measures to safeguard their jobs and incomes, and then tell Brazil he will tariff the hell out of them unless Bolsonaro goes free (at which point he would presumably lift the tariffs) is not logical or consistent even from Trump’s own point of view. This is what strikes a hollow note, and I suppose this is what’s fueling the TDS.

    So, the TL;DR version of the above:

    1) Tariffs as part of a comprehensive protectionist reindustrialization policy are good.
    2) Tariffs in isolation are not ideal. There are better ways of addressing the issues they were meant to solve, but since you have to start somewhere, they may be politically palatable for a time (but the clock is ticking).
    3) Tariffs wielded like a weapon to arbitrarily sanction whatever regime is on Trump’s shit-list today are not going to accomplish anything meaningful and will eventually do more harm than good.

    The situation is nuanced because the tariffs can be either good, bad, or tolerable depending on the overall policy context, but political discussions in America today are not really geared for nuance, so it’s difficult to explain this to people.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Well alrighty, then. That's a pretty good comment. Please ignore my earlier ball-busting.

    Here’s a free tune to go with the subtitle of your book:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYqaFEIhu10

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Hello, retard Unzians! I walked away from you all in disgust because you're all just too bone-stupid to even talk to, but, now I've written a book so -- please buy it! (Even though you won't understand it.)

    Here's a sample...

    "The main introductory theme involves using traffic congestion (a subject I’m sure you’ve had ample opportunity to meditate upon) as an extended metaphor for neoliberal economic failures. The ever-increasing numbers of people on the road, the poor road conditions, collective behavior imposing individual burdens, the debt that allows all these cars to be purchased, the consumerism that necessitates all these extra trips"

    You see, half a century ago, back in the 1970s, when there were half as many people and cars in the country, there was no such thing as traffic congestion! Remember? Ralph Bakshi made a movie called "Moderate Traffic" and Jimi Hendrix wrote a song called "Zipping Easily Crosstown".

    These and many more exciting observations, like my hot-air balloon trip with Vox Day where our brains were so heavy that the balloon crashed into the Pacific -- and we were flying over the Atlantic! See you all at the Checkout button!

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @kaganovitch

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Hello, I.D. I gotta admit that some of your long comments back in the day plain lost me. However, your response to Mike's question on tariffs and your take on Trump's use of tariffs is right on the money!

    For Mike Tre, in fairness to iSteve, his non-fancy-signed-hardback books were just under $30 each with that Stancil discount. I hope you get many sales on your book - I may buy it myself. You've got a glowing review from your wife on Amazon anyway, haha! I was not able to read the rest of the reviews because... digressing to yet another piece of curmudgeonry here, but,

    WTF is Bezo's problem?! You can't read reviews now if you're not logged in. You can't buy stuff as a guest. I found these 2 things out a few months back - got my 15 chainsaw chains elsewhere and one other product elsewhere. I WILL NOT get an account if I have to give my phone# out in order to get a code to verify myself. What's wrong with just paying with a credit card - they've got my money!

    Rant over, nice to hear from you again, I.D.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    , @Curle
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Include a chapter showing that the increase in disposable income among ever younger age cohorts led to decreasing standards in pop music and I might buy it.

    , @Corvinus
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You should debate Vox Day. He welcomes discussion on tariff policy.

  • @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    ID - thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn't cost 500 dollars (like Sailer's gaudy memoir) I'd be interested in purchasing it.

    Since you're here, I'd be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don't have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump's tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.

    Hope all else is well.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Intelligent Dasein

    ID – thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn’t cost 500 dollars (like Sailer’s gaudy memoir) I’d be interested in purchasing it.

    Hello Mike! If there was some way we could connect offline, I’d be happy to send you a complimentary copy, but even apart from that, I don’t think the $21.99 that Amazon charges will break the bank. There may be parts of the book you disagree with, but I think there are other parts you would really enjoy. The main introductory theme involves using traffic congestion (a subject I’m sure you’ve had ample opportunity to meditate upon) as an extended metaphor for neoliberal economic failures. The ever-increasing numbers of people on the road, the poor road conditions, collective behavior imposing individual burdens, the debt that allows all these cars to be purchased, the consumerism that necessitates all these extra trips—the story of modern life is written in the fumes and frustrations of urban gridlock. There is even a special subchapter about spot market freight brokers. That, and much more besides.

    Since you’re here, I’d be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don’t have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump’s tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.

    It’s a nuanced subject, to be sure; but economics is all about nuance—it’s just the nature of the beast—so that’s how we’ll have to roll.

    Firstly, a little framing. I am certainly not against tariffs in principle. A protectionist trade policy is essential to industrializing (or in America’s case, reindustrializing) a nation. If Trump’s tariffs had been part of a comprehensive policy package aimed at onshoring industry and reducing exposure to counterparty geopolitical risk, then I would be all for them. America is in the rare and fortunate position of being one of the few nations on Earth that can function as an economic autarky. We don’t need trade at all, assuming we are willing to adopt reasonable expectations and live within our means, but therein lies the rub.

    Secondly, I concede the point that these tariffs will eventually raise consumer prices and reduce American standards of living. I’m willing to bite that bullet, because that was inevitable, anyway. Whether we choose the path of austerity, default, or debt monetization, all roads now lead to the same place. There is no way that America can solve its economic problems without pain and sacrifice (in the book, I refer to this convergence of outcomes, independent of policy, as the unity of the utopias). I argue that for America, at this point in time, inflation and debt monetization, working through a wage multiplier that functions like a reverse income tax, is actually the best policy, imposing the least amount of hardship on ordinary people and the most amount of hardship on the financial sector, where it is deserved. A subsiding tide lowers all boats, but inflation, done the right way, is “progressive” (to use the preferred nomenclature).

    The tariffs are a budgetarily equivalent but more “regressive” version of the same strategy. Furthermore, the fact that Trump is imposing them in an arbitrary and scattershot manner, leaves a lot to be desired. Although I have not really read Ron Unz on the subject, I can sympathize with those who are not entirely sanguine about how this all went down. But most frustrating of all is this: when Trump uses the imposition of tariffs as a threat and a negotiating tactic, it calls into question the whole rationale for instituting them at all.

    I mean, tariffs are either good or they’re bad. If they’re good, we should just do them. Is the purpose of the tariffs to rebuild American industry, or is it to keep Bolsonaro out of the Brazilian court system? It cannot be both. For Trump to tell American workers that he will enact protectionist measures to safeguard their jobs and incomes, and then tell Brazil he will tariff the hell out of them unless Bolsonaro goes free (at which point he would presumably lift the tariffs) is not logical or consistent even from Trump’s own point of view. This is what strikes a hollow note, and I suppose this is what’s fueling the TDS.

    So, the TL;DR version of the above:

    1) Tariffs as part of a comprehensive protectionist reindustrialization policy are good.
    2) Tariffs in isolation are not ideal. There are better ways of addressing the issues they were meant to solve, but since you have to start somewhere, they may be politically palatable for a time (but the clock is ticking).
    3) Tariffs wielded like a weapon to arbitrarily sanction whatever regime is on Trump’s shit-list today are not going to accomplish anything meaningful and will eventually do more harm than good.

    The situation is nuanced because the tariffs can be either good, bad, or tolerable depending on the overall policy context, but political discussions in America today are not really geared for nuance, so it’s difficult to explain this to people.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Hello Mike! If there was some way we could connect offline, I’d be happy to send you a complimentary copy, but even apart from that, I don’t think the $21.99 that Amazon charges will break the bank."

    Oh I was just getting one (probably not) last dig at Sailer's audacious selling price, but I'll glad buy yours as it is the least I can do for your efforts. I look forward to reading it.

    Thanks for the rundown on the tariffs. As with many topics, the truth/reality of their impact gets overtaken by the "who's side are you on" preface.

    Again hope all is well!

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Adam Smith

  • Well, let’s see if this works.

    According to the criteria set forth by Ron Unz at the commencement of these open threads, I should now have my comments automatically approved—a privilege that I never enjoyed when Sailer was here and one that I now (ironically) no longer require, having decided to comment here no longer.

    However, I am breaking radio silence just this once to inform the forum of the publication of my new book: Traffic and Weather Together Next: The Love of Money, the Root of All Evil, and the End of the American Economy.

    I have long been convinced of the truth of the maxim that when it comes to diagnosing and correcting the modern social dysfunction, amateurs talk ideology and professionals talk economics. Correspondingly, I have placed my full panoply of economic meditations together in one accessible form that is now required reading for all Traditionalists.

    I have called this a complete metaphysical critique of neoliberal economics, written with the soul of an adventure. After a long introduction that explains the key concepts of the book, the main text falls into four parts: 1) A philosophical history of neoliberalism, beginning with the break with Thomistic metaphysics enacted by the early modern philosophers; 2) a socioeconomic exploration of the contemporary living and working conditions resulting therefrom; 3) a Scriptural exegesis that explains the fundamentals of Christian economics; and 4) practical individual and policy recommendations for recreating a Catholic economy even while taking in the full scope of concrete, modern realities.

    If I do say so myself, this is a uniquely enjoyable and trenchant book, quite timely and pertinent. It is also extremely pleasant to read—it pulls no punches and stands alone in its genre as the first effort of its kind. As this revelation involves a partial doxxing of myself (I assume Ron Unz will allow that) please be respectful when discussing or reviewing it.

    The dense but highly readable prose is replete with insights that leap off every page. It is well worth your time and effort to read, as there is nothing else like this today. Thanks, and farewell.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein

    As of this timestamp, the first two hits on Google of “Matthew Beck” :


    Facebook · East Idaho News
    450+ reactions · 1 month ago

    Matthew Beck claims he's not a violent person and simply has "bad luck" with women. Court records tell a different story.
     

    Matthew Beck - Murderpedia

    On March 6, 1998, Matthew Beck, a disgruntled accountant at Connecticut's lottery headquarters, opened fire at his supervisors killing four people before ...
     
    , @kaganovitch
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Looking forward to reading it.

    , @Greta Handel
    @Intelligent Dasein


    According to the criteria set forth by Ron Unz at the commencement of these open threads, I should now have my comments automatically approved—a privilege that I never enjoyed when Sailer was here
     
    Likewise. However, he’s now cowardly throttling Greta Handel’s participation at TUR by:

    1) allowing only an unspecified, small number of comments periodically across the entire website

    2) holding comments on the legacy Sailer threads in moderation for days

    3) disabling the buttons used to show agreement, etc., with the comments of others

    4) providing no warning beforehand, and no acknowledgment or explanation since.

    and one that I now (ironically) no longer require, having decided to comment here no longer.
     
    When’s the last time someone was publicly limited or banished? Apparently, RU is concerned that this would accelerate the exodus of commenters like you.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @MGB
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Sounds interesting, but please tell me you had editorial assistance. That has been my primary criticism of self-published work, the author either hasn't had, or doesn't want, a thorough pre-publication review by an editor, whether professional or just a trusted friend.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Intelligent Dasein

    If you play your cards right, maybe you can get a deal with Passage Publishing.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    ID - thanks for stopping by to promote your book, as long as it doesn't cost 500 dollars (like Sailer's gaudy memoir) I'd be interested in purchasing it.

    Since you're here, I'd be interested in your opinion on the tariff issue as it is being debated currently. I don't have the effort or interest in taking a deep dive into the issue, but Unz himself seems to have a bit of TDS as it applies to Trump's tariffs, so I am curious for an informed assessment.

    Hope all else is well.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Intelligent Dasein

    So we commenters are allowed to pitch products in these threads? Including my nude pix?

    , @Anon
    @Intelligent Dasein


    The dense but highly readable prose is replete with insights that leap off every page. It is well worth your time and effort to read, as there is nothing else like this today. Thanks, and farewell.
     
    Quite possibly true, given your high-quality writing here.

    But there are negatives :
    i) Your only positive review is from 'Donna Beck'. When your family member is the only favorable reviewer, that is not a good sign.
    ii) 500+ pages is an outdated form of writing in the modern age.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @Moshe Def
    @Intelligent Dasein

    tl;dr

    , @Corvinus
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “As this revelation involves a partial doxxing of myself”

    Indeed. Interesting that you found time to write your book given what apparently is happening to you. But it’s probably just a misunderstanding, right?

    https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1140722481426222&id=100064654423217

    “However, I am breaking radio silence just this once to inform the forum of the publication of my new book”

    Grift away.

    “this book is a modern masterpiece and an instant classic that will appeal especially to the younger generations”

    So I imagine you were inspired by Mr. Sailer the self-promoter. Well done.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  • Besides trying to ruin Donald Trump for the high crime of fooling everybody for the last 40 years by Trump being a secret optimist about his business prospects -- I mean, who could possibly have imagined that Trump tends to put the best reasonable spin on the worth of his real estate and that his...
  • @Dumbo
    I think all this attacks against Trump are just theatre. Reverse psychology to make the still remaining MAGA people think he's a renegade hero "persecuted by the establishment" or something.

    Lately he's been supporting:

    - Mo' money for Ukraine
    - Mo' wars for Israel
    - Abortion
    - LGBTQ stuff
    - Even more vaccine stuff

    So what's his difference from Biden?

    As for the "free speech", that is so 1990's. No one even pretends to believe in that crap anymore. It doesn't exist. Just look around, it's very clear what you're allowed to say and what not.

    Incidentally --- since I mentioned vaccines and free speech -- does anyone else think that The Unz Review has jumped the shark? Ron Unz keeps droning about "30 million dead from Covid", when even the normies don't believe that dumb story anymore. And he's banning comments too. So much for "free speech".

    Also, save rare exceptions, the quality of the articles has dropped a lot, not to mention the quality of the commenters. Perhaps it's time to go.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @AnotherDad, @HA, @Stan Adams, @Mike Tre

    Also, save rare exceptions, the quality of the articles has dropped a lot, not to mention the quality of the commenters. Perhaps it’s time to go.

    Yeah, it’s time to go. It’s been years in the making here, and that goes for a lot of other things, too.

    Way back in 1998, I made a conscious decision to stop watching television because I realized it had all turned to garbage. The culture was completely fake and gay, moronic, trashy, violent, gaudy—it just had nothing redeeming about it.

    I’ve got that feeling again, but now I feel that way about the entire internet. Twenty years ago, even the comments on relatively normal sites like First Things and Asia Times were better than the content you get here, today. Back then, it seemed like there were more erudite and learned people who actually had opinions and would discuss things. Not anymore. The internet is just an amusement park filled with old, broken-down rides, and you’ve already ridden them all.

    Of course, the internet is part of the functional infrastructure of contemporary life and it’s hard to get rid of it entirely, but I certainly don’t need to spend any extra time engaging with it, as if it had something to offer. You’re right, it’s time to move on.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Intelligent Dasein


    You’re right, it’s time to move on.
     
    I didn't mean to motivate you or anyone to stop commenting, however. Your comments were one of the few remaining things interesting here...
  •   Nah, actually, this a graph from a survey by Emil Kirkegaard, Bryan J. Pesta, and Joseph Bronski. By the way, I haven't been promoting my book Noticing that hard online lately because it's still sold well enough without an intense push from me lately that shipping is still lagging a few weeks behind new...
  • @prosa123
    How is a question about pedophilia taboo? There is basically 100% agreement that it's bad.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Frau Katze, @Puttheforkdown, @AnotherDad, @Intelligent Dasein, @JimDandy

    Yes, you’re right.

    Obviously, most people in the survey misunderstood what they were being asked. Instead of carefully thinking through whether the question itself should be taboo, they just proleptically reacted to their feelings that the subject was somehow immoral or icky. If the idiots understood how the hell they were actually supposed to answer, they would realize that some of the ickiest subjects are actually the least taboo questions to ask.

    People are stupid. People do this very thing all the time, and the more intelligent you are, the more you realize that they’re doing it and the more it frustrates you. It’s like being a Catholic and having to put up with all the dipshits who think “the Immaculate Conception” means “the Virgin Birth.”

    On the other hand, there is one caveat to all this. The stupid people may have an inarticulable but reliable instinct, born of experience, telling them that when a social scientist says “I want to ask you about X,” what he really means is, “I want to demolish your traditional opinions about X and concoct sciency rationalizations for holding the contrary view.” In this, the stupid people are right, so they may be answering that those questions are taboo as a means of defending whatever remains of their healthy and normal morality from subversive politics masquerading as science. If you were to hindcast this interpretation over the last 30 years of “social science,” you would find it to be eerily accurate.

  • On November 16, 1968, my dad and I went to the Museum of Science and Industry next to the L.A. Coliseum. When we came out, the football game between #1 USC and #13 Oregon State to determine who would go to the Rose Bowl was just starting, and the scalpers were getting desperate. So my...
  • @Carney
    @Anon

    Trump tried to have it both ways, re Warp Speed, but also having from the very start contradicted the medical experts about the virus out of fear that the hostile media would overhype the virus to tank the economy and/or embarrass his administration to hurt his re-election chances. By his doing the latter, he was behaving with his typical reckless exploitative demagoguery and set up a dynamic under which to remain a loyal in-group member you had to not only reject what the experts with relevant competence and jurisdiction were saying, you had to do so in the belief that they were part of a "Get Trump" conspiracy and were lying about the virus for political reasons. Down that paranoid road is antivax. It's a bitter irony that many people died or were badly sickened after refusing the vaccine (and before that, masking and distancing etc) out of having their deep-rooted loyalties manipulated and whipped up by a political and propaganda machine that took its cues from the top. Leadership matters.

    Yes, YOU might have been fine, but that's like a dumb teenager saying "I skateboard in the road and try out street drugs and nothing happened to me." It doesn't make it the right decision. Trump, his top people, the top names at Fox, etc. all were vaccinated, while knowingly whipping up virus-denier / antimask tantrums / antivax madness etc. Countless people got onto the antivax etc bus to prove their loyalty, which then went off the cliff as Trump, Tucker Carlson, etc. watched from safety. Such as: (if link fails, try it on the Internet Archive):

    Maurizio Buratti
    Self-Proclaimed ‘Plague Spreader’ Dies of COVID After Boasting About Maskless Grocery Store Stunt
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/maurizio-buratti-dies-of-covid-after-boasting-of-maskless-store-stunt
    An Italian anti-vaxxer and COVID-denier who sparked outrage after declaring himself a “plague spreader” and boasting about how he walked around sick and maskless in a supermarket has died of COVID-19, according to local media reports.

    Doug Kuzma
    An anti-vax podcaster has reportedly contracted COVID-19 and now is hospitalized on a ventilator
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/an-anti-vax-podcaster-has-reportedly-contracted-covid-19-and-now-is-hospitalized-on-a-ventilator/ar-AAS9LQL



    Keith Smith
    Man whose wife won a court battle to treat his COVID-19 with ivermectin has died
    https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2021/12/13/pa-man-who-won-court-battle-treat-his-covid-ivermectin-has-died/6493657001/
    (She would not say whether her husband had been vaccinated.)

    Hai Shaulian
    Anti-Vaccine Activist Who Said 'There's No Epidemic' Dies of COVID
    https://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaccine-activist-who-said-theres-no-epidemic-dies-covid-hai-shaulian-1628847
    A prominent Israeli anti-vaccine activist has reportedly died of COVID-19.


    The Moreland Family
    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/572420-six-unvaccinated-members-of-florida-family-die-of-covid-19
    In just three weeks, six unvaccinated members of a Florida family died after contracting COVID-19.

    After attending the funeral for 48-year-old family member Tyrone Moreland, 89-year-old grandmother Lillie Mae Dukes Moreland was hospitalized with the virus and died just 24 hours later, according to The Palm Beach Post.

    Three more cousins died shortly after their grandmother, and the family's most recent loss was 44-year-old Trentarian Moreland, who died on Sunday.


    Captain Joe Manning
    A police captain who refused the vaccine and took the anti-parasitic ivermectin to combat COVID-19 dies from the virus
    https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-anti-vaxx-cop-took-ivermectin-dies-of-covid-19-2021-8
    "OK Folks Wayne Feed and Seed has some liquid and paste Ivermectin get it while supplies last," Manning wrote on Facebook.

    Bill Phillips
    Colorado fitness coach regrets not getting COVID-19 vaccine after 2-month hospital stay
    https://www.9news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/colorado-fitness-coach-covid-19-vaccine/73-174c9d51-97ed-4693-b208-c4a2100d0666
    Bill Phillips lost 70 pounds during his time in the ICU and is now urging the unvaccinated to get the shot.


    John Eyers
    Fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid
    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid

    Marc Bernier
    After 3-week COVID-19 battle, Daytona Beach talk radio host Marc Bernier dies
    https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/volusia/2021/08/28/marc-bernier-30-year-daytona-beach-talk-host-dies-after-covid-battle/5639816001/
    He also was an outspoken opponent of vaccinations.
    On air, Bernier said he wouldn't take COVID-19 vaccine


    Ron Steadman
    Winter Haven woman hospitalized with COVID-19, comes home to find husband dead
    https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-polk/winter-haven-woman-hospitalized-with-covid-19-comes-home-to-find-husband-dead
    Lisa said that neither of them had received a COVID-19 vaccine, not because they were against it, only because they wanted to wait.

    Caleb Wallace
    Texas anti-mask movement leader dies of COVID-19
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/569921-texas-anti-mask-movement-leader-dies-of-covid-19i
    The leader of an anti-mask movement in Texas has died from COVID-19.
    Caleb Wallace, 30, who created the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, a group that held a rally to combat "COVID-19 tyranny," died after spending more than a month in the hospital, according to a message posted by his wife, Jessica Wallace, on a GoFundMe page to raise money to cover his hospital bills.
    --
    In a YouTube video he said
    "I care more about freedom than I care about your personal health"


    Phil Valentine
    Conservative radio host who regretted vaccine skepticism dies of COVID-19
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/568899-conservative-radio-host-who-regretted-vaccine-skepticism-dies-of-covid-19

    Travis Campbell
    https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/566750-i-messed-up-unvaccinated-man-in-icu-with-covid-19-calls-for
    'I messed up': Unvaccinated man in ICU with COVID-19 calls for people to get the shot
    After surviving a mild COVID-19 case last year, Campbell said he thought he had the antibodies to ward off future infection. Now, he worries the decision to delay the shot will cost him his life, as he fights pneumonia and a partially collapsed lung.


    Clay Higgins
    Lousiana Rep. Clay Higgins says he and his wife have COVID-19 again
    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/lousiana-rep-clay-higgins-says-he-and-his-wife-have-covid-19-again
    Republican Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana, a critic of mask mandates and public health restrictions during the pandemic, said he, his wife and son have contracted the coronavirus.

    He made the announcement on Facebook Sunday night. He said he and his wife had been infected last year, but this time around is much more difficult. He has not said whether he has been vaccinated.

    "This episode is far more challenging. It has required all my devoted energy," he said.


    Lawrence & Lydia Rodriguez
    https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article253183023.html
    Unvaccinated Texas mom and dad on ventilators beg their 4 kids to get COVID shots

    H. Scott Apley
    https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article253276493.html
    Republican official who mocked COVID in final Facebook post dies of virus in Texas


    Pressley Stutts
    GOP Leader Who Fought Against Vaccine Dies After Weekslong Battle With Coronavirus
    https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/greenville/2021/08/19/greenville-gop-leader-pressley-stutts-dies-covid-19/5503881001/

    Dick Farrell
    Vocal anti-vaccine broadcaster dies from COVID-19 complications
    Friends say Dick Farrell encouraged them to get the vaccine after he was infected
    https://www.wptv.com/lifestyle/taste-and-see/vocal-anti-vaccine-broadcaster-dies-from-covid-19-complications

    Michael Freedy
    “I should have gotten the damn vaccine”: Las Vegas father of 5 dies from COVID-19
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210730125620/https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/father-of-5-dies-of-covid-19-after-texting-i-should-have-gotten-the-damn/article_527bc1aa-f0ec-11eb-9a47-273d1d8d32ac.html

    Stephen Harmon
    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/california-man-who-mocked-covid-19-vaccine-dies-of-virus/3172761/
    California Man Who Mocked COVID-19 Vaccine Dies of Virus
    Before his hospitalization, Harmon had made fun of vaccination efforts on social media


    Tony Tenpenny
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/22/extreme-covid-denier-politician-who-dismissed-virus-as-socialist-hoax-is-killed-by-it-13308465/
    Extreme Covid-denier politician who dismissed virus as ‘socialist’ hoax is killed by it

    Tony Green's mother-in-law
    https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/14-dallas-family-members-get-covid-19-after-virus-deniers-party-1-dead-and-another-on-life-support/
    14 Dallas family members get COVID-19 after virus denier’s party, 1 dead and another on life support
    Green admitted no one wore masks, as he thought “the mainstream media and the Democrats were using it [COVID-19} to create panic, crash the economy and destroy Trump’s chances at re-election.”

    Gary and Sandy Shofner
    https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2020/sep/04/guest-commentary-dont-believe-deniers-their-hoax/
    Don't believe deniers; their 'hoax' killed my parents
    https://www.live5news.com/2020/07/04/couple-married-almost-years-dies-hours-apart-covid-/

    Landon Spradlin
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/landon-spradlin-coronavirus-pandemic-death-punchline/
    I Knew Coronavirus Denier Landon Spradlin. His Death Wasn’t a Punchline.
    The evangelical musician died of COVID-19 after calling it fake news. But he was a victim of forces much larger than him.


    John W. McDaniel
    https://toofab.com/2020/04/21/covid-19-denier-dies-of-coronavirus-after-calling-stay-at-home-orders-bulls-t/
    COVID-19 Denier Dies of Coronavirus After Calling Stay-At-Home Orders 'Bulls---t'

    Thomas Macias
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/california-thomas-macias-coronavirus/index.html
    He posted his regrets over attending a party in California. The next day, he died of coronavirus.
    "I went out a couple of weeks ago ... because of my stupidity I put my mom and sisters and my family's health in jeopardy," he wrote. "This has been a very painful experience. This is no joke. If you have to go out, wear a mask, and practice social distancing. ... Hopefully with God's help, I'll be able to survive this."

    He never made it. He died a day after that post.


    Erin Hitchens
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53892856
    Man who believed virus was hoax loses wife to Covid-19

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Anon

    Spite, much?

    You’ve clearly been waiting for this moment. How was it?

    • Replies: @HA
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Spite, much?"

    With that attitude, you're not exactly one to be pointing fingers, salty boy. There are entire websites devoted to COVID loons biting the dust. Generally, the name "Herman Cain" is one of the first names mentioned on any such list, whereas the commenter you're so bitter about didn't even bother mentioning him. I'd say that's an indication he was pulling punches.

    Are you just angry because you're having trouble blaming Bobert's recent clotting issues on the COVID vax?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    , @Carney
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I compiled that list not in mockery or celebration, but in mourning and outrage that these salt of the Earth, trusting, all-American (or equivalent abroad) types were misled to their deaths or severe harm by people who with maximum cynicism manipulated their faith, deep patriotism, and opposition to the far left for temporary political advantage.

    There are plenty of places like SorryAntivaxxer that come from a left perspective and mock the dead. That's not where I'm coming from.

    My point is and was that, as low-IQ as blacks are, as disquieting as the malice they sometimes show is, as ludicrous as the persecution narratives they eagerly believe in are, this disaster has brought home that to at least a substantial degree we are all vulnerable to being misled, and staggering numbers of our own people have died UNNECESSARILY who'd be alive today if our own trusted and sometimes even idolized leadership, starting with Trump, weren't such corrupt, cynical, remorseless monsters.

  • In 2017, I wrote in a review of the fine miniseries "The People vs. O.J. Simpson:" I was going to say the O.J. Trial was a formative event for me, but it was more of a confirmatory one. For example, in the miniseries, which is mostly accurate although somewhat pumped up, Johnnie Cochran starts out...
  • @Ennui
    It being Unz, commentators go straight for the black angle. Yes, they cheered. But that's not the key point here. OJ was a POS, but that was alleged back in college. There are allegations of abuse back then, but they were swept under the rug allegedly because his white, gentile coach wanted them to be allegedly. Is anyone here talking about the POS coach? A grown man (perhaps a Heritage/Founding/Freedom American) whose entire, parasitic existence was the furthering of a game regardless of the social consequences? No, let's blame some Jews instead.

    All these athletes misbehaving are in the position to misbehave because a lot of white fans love their precious sports ball. We should blame them. But, that wouldn't feel as good as citing crime stats or talking about Jewish conspiracies. It's the same with our foreign policy, Ibrahim Xendi getting paid, and gender relations. Everybody is to be blamed but the people who make it all possible. Does anyone think OJ would have made it in life on the strength of his black fans? Does anyone think there would even be a professional sports economic and cultural leviathan on the basis of black consumers?

    Yeah, i know it's based and manly to enjoy watching sweaty black dudes or other young men in knee pants play with balls. Only malcontents would critique such wholesome enjoyment.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @bomag, @MGB, @Intelligent Dasein, @Pixo, @TWS

    You are a man among the Midgets of Unz. Thank you for all your commentary.

  • In the NCAA basketball final game on Monday, 7'4" 300 lb. Zach Edey of Purdue goes up against 7'-2" 265 pound Donovan Clingan of Connecticut. These are two old-fashioned centers who don't shoot much outside 3 feet from the basket. Edey, who averaged 25 points per game this year and 28 in the first five...
  • @John Johnson
    @Anon


    It’s actually really sad and evidence that Western society has a huge case of gene denial. You see them put pressure on kids that just aren’t that good. This also happens with White men/Asian woman couples. Dad marries a me so horny sex pot and seems to think that Tom Brady will come out but with somewhat slanted eyes.
     
    Cope.

    Eurasians are more successful and judged as more attractive than white-white kids.

    What is the cope? Do you even know what the word means?

    If it isn't obvious I've been involved in kids sports and I'm sharing what I witnessed.

    I was talking about athletic ability and not looks.

    It's a real problem whereby White guys marry a tiny cute Asian and then seem surprised that their boy doesn't bat 500. Don't take my observation so personally. It's a combination of White gene denial and marrying a 5'1 Korean girl entirely based on looks. This is more of a problem in liberal areas. White guys in rural areas will marry the big girl that others scoff at and their kids come out of the vagina with a football helmet on. Liberal guys are more likely to have gene denial.

    As for looks there is also the "supreme gentlemen" problem which I have spoken of as well. The half-Asian girl gets a lot of attention but the boy has a harder time with White women. It happens and is politically incorrect like a lot of inter-racial dating. I didn't create this society and am merely making observations. I in fact don't like how Asian men are often sidelined even though they work hard and are community minded.

    You type of comment is the standard fare cope from middle-to-lower income white trashionalists who failed to get an Asian woman.

    I actually had one of the better looking Asian girlfriends at my college and I couldn't wait to get rid of her and go back to a White girl. I realized I would not be able to sit through another Asian dinner without wanting to stab myself with a fork over the trite conversation. Asian women just aren't as interesting as White women. If you are attracted to them then good for you. I really don't care.

    If all White men desired Asian women then White athletes and celebrities would marry them all the time. That doesn't happen.

    Don't get so sensitive over one observation. You sound like a supreme gentlemen. Lighten up a bit and stop promoting this ridiculous idea that all White men secretly have yellow fever.

    Replies: @Anon, @Intelligent Dasein, @Truth

    I realized I would not be able to sit through another Asian dinner without wanting to stab myself with a fork over the trite conversation.

  • I recorded a 2.5 hour podcast with Bronze Age Pervert here. First hour is free for non-subscribers. One highlight of the paywalled last 1.5 hours is me considering BAP's theory that the dominance of black sprinters since the mid 1960s is possibly due to blacks benefiting more from PEDs. By the way, you can buy...
  • @Dennis Dale
    @Mark G.

    Too calm. I think Steve has said himself he tends to be a little too thoughtful and careful in speaking, amending and hedging here and there. John Kerry, if John Kerry had an original thought in his head.

    It's depressing but what works now is speaking at a faster clip and with more abandon. I don't understand the appeal myself. Ben Shapiro talks in 1.5 speed like a high school debate competitor and I find it unbearable, aside from the lame content.

    I actually read BAP's book and thought about half of it worked as tongue-in-cheek parody, though I'm not sure that's what he intended. I haven't paid much attention to him since and have the impression he's not a friend of white advocacy. The exchange re Malaysia--his fears the Malays will act to limit dominance by hustling high-IQ Chinese for the benefits of Malays tells me all I need to know about him. Thank you Steve for your thoughtful response to that.

    And speaking of speaking--how is BAP so successful? I find nothing compelling or charismatic about his voice and thoughts. I give up. I have no idea what people are looking for.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    And speaking of speaking–how is BAP so successful? I find nothing compelling or charismatic about his voice and thoughts. I give up. I have no idea what people are looking for.

    People read, listen, and watch not to be informed or to think, but to confirm prejudice. Sailer’s ongoing popularity is owed entirely to him providing a platform for disaffected white people to complain about American racial politics, as I’ve pointed out before. It certainly isn’t due to his accurate takes on contemporary issues.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Intelligent Dasein

    No. Steve gets it right nearly 100 percent when he's analyzing things in his area of expertise. But good analysis is like good ideas--useless without action. The putative praise of "he'd rather be right than win" should be considered a backhanded compliment. After decades of being right while losing the world to monsters one has to ask: what has this all been about? Making ourselves feel better while things go to hell? (so I guess you do have a point)

    The problem is we are deluded into thinking the debates are simply about determining the truth of reality--if we just establish that people will have to adopt sanity! Ha! When in fact the big questions are about what kind of world do we want. What kind of world do we want to strive toward? What tradeoffs do we want to make? Our enemies understand this; to them winning is being right.

    There needs to be a moral component to a worldview. There needs to be anger where anger is due. There needs to be some fire behind the illuminating light.

  • From Intelligence:
  • Boy, did this post ever bring out the inner nurturist in the iSteve community.

    Posit: Observed difference in black behavior and intelligence are largely genetic in origin.

    HBDer: Absolutely. The Real Science!™ of genetics establishes beyond any doubt that 70,000 years of divergent evolution between blacks and whites have conditioned blacks to be low-IQ, compulsive, violent thugs with a high time preference. Environment can neither account for this nor correct it. If you don’t believe this, you are a science-denying, blank-slatist idiot who needs to open up his eyes and look at the statistics. Steve Sailer is the most underrated intellectual of the last 100 years.

    Posit: Genetic polymorphisms that correlate with intelligence also correlate with leftist politics.

    HBDer: Bullshit. It’s all confounded by assortive mating and the educational system. Only smart people go to college, where they are brainwashed into being doctrinaire liberals (because smart people completely lack agency when it comes to their own intellectual development and they believe whatever their professors tell them to believe—they’re tabula rasas, I tell you). Besides, what does “Left” really mean today, anyway? The designation of what counts as liberalism and what does not isn’t that cut and dried. It all exists on a continuum. Political affiliations are not intrinsic features of a person, they are a social construct.

    No further proof is needed that “HBD” has never been anything more than a thin, pseudoscientific patina applied to racial animus, especially against black people. If you were as indulgent towards blacks as you were towards your fellow whites, you would sound no different than any Civil Rights-era hippie. If you were as rigorous with whites as you were with blacks, you would sound like the Nation of Islam.

    HBD is not even wrong. It isn’t merely that it gets scientific facts incorrect, it’s that it has no idea what a scientific argument even is, or how to make one. It’s just an excuse for bitching about race relations in America. This, in and of itself, is fine; America has a number of legitimate problems with racial politics, immigration, and underclass black criminality—but that is a completely separate subject from the nature of race itself. What race is, HBD will never discover. I hold this blog and this entire movement discredited.

    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Intelligent Dasein


    HBDer: Bullshit. It’s all confounded by assortive mating and the educational system. Only smart people go to college, where they are brainwashed into being doctrinaire liberals (because smart people completely lack agency when it comes to their own intellectual development and they believe whatever their professors tell them to believe—they’re tabula rasas, I tell you).
     
    You sort of missed the point of most of the comments here. Far from being tabula rasa, people are programmed by their genes to be conformists, to favor their in-group and dis-favor their out-group, to take self-flattering positions, etc. Many of the commentors are pointing to these other natural biological tendencies (i.e. character flaws) driving otherwise smart people to take transparently stupid liberal political positions.
    The commentors are also arguing that liberal political positions are not, on the merits, more intelligent or better-argued than conservative ones, which has nothing to do with the nature/nurture debate.
    You also seem to be under the impression that assortive mating is a nurturist explanation. It's an HBD argument for how we are inadvertently breeding our way into separate social/biological classes.
    , @Dr. DoomnGloom
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The problem”inner naturist” is that the educated vote has slowly switched from right to whatever left means today. in the past half century.
    The * behavior* of the intelligent has changed. Isolating genes at the “cause” of voting left is meaningless without a lot more context about interests and what left eight means.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: That race does not exist is a popular view, but whenever liberals get in power, do they act upon it? If you believed this, you might assume that the current Democratic administration would therefore phase out the benighted federal racial categories. Yet last week the Biden administration’s Office...
  • @martin_2
    @anon


    Take virtually any ten year old kid and they could easily sort a diverse room of people into different racial groups. More specifically, given 100 Koreans, 100 Swedes and 100 Nigerians I’d dare say that they’d do it with 100% accuracy, even if all participants were dressed exactly the same and no communication were allowed. How is that possible with something that “doesn’t exist”? Do the same with just photographs and it would be the same.

    Of course, the opposite (contrapositive?) is not true: just because something cannot be seen (e.g., germs) does not prove that it does not exist. But, I’m having difficulty coming up with examples of things that are observable and yet don’t exist. Maybe someone can help me out here.

    I recall an experiment that James Randi did where he attempted to prove/disprove a woman’s claim that she could see ‘aura’. He set up a row of doors behind which he had people randomly stand such that the top of the door was just above their head and any of their aural emanations would be visible above it (given that aura allegedly extends a few feet out from one’s body it should be visible). He then asked the woman to identify which doors had people standing behind them. Her selections were no better than chance which seemed to indicate that she has no such aura-seeing powers.

    On the other hand, had she correctly identified all the doors with people behind them then that would certainly suggest that something special was going on: Maybe she could see aura? Furthermore, if you got multiple aura-sighted people to not only pick the right doors, but consistently ascribe the same aura colors to the same people, then I suspect that you’d seriously be onto something and aura would, indeed, be determined to be a real thing.
     
    This is a superb analysis of what it is to say that something exists or does not exist and is the reason why people keep reading the comments sections despite all the garbage they have to scroll past. The interesting question of whether something can be objectively (i.e. seen by more than one person) observable and yet not exist gets to the heart of the matter. I would only add that race exists right left and centre when a "liberal" is choosing a school for their own children.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    This is a superb analysis of what it is to say that something exists or does not exist

    I don’t think it’s a very good analysis at all. The aura experiment was poorly designed and inconclusive. It would be easy for an aura-perceiver to come back and say that since the aura is a property of the whole person, you cannot see the aura unless you are actually perceiving the person, too. Auras were never supposed to be taken as physical emanations like light. But even if the aura had been actual, physical light, the experiment as designed would have blocked that, too. Thus, it really doesn’t prove anything, other than the fact that the experimenter is an idiot.

    I would guess that auras are a type of synesthesia.

    I had very strong synesthesia with respect to letters and numbers when I was young. I would perceive every letter and number on a printed page as surrounded by a halo of color of a particular hue that was unique to that character. It was a really cool talent to have, since the colors are easier to recall than abstract signs. It gave me a great ability to do arithmetic in my head and to remember things I had read.

    Now that I’m in my 40s, the synesthesia is mostly faded, and my ability to calculate in my mind and to remember blocks of text verbatim is correspondingly much reduced from what it once was. It’s kind of sad, but it is an inevitable consequence of the course my life has taken. Now that I am burdened with many cares of the world, my neurological architecture has had to adapt. The adult brain must be formed for willing and doing instead of just perceiving things and delighting in them like a child or a savant.

    But here is the thing. Even when I was a little kid, I never once was so silly as to believe that the halos were physically present on the page; but they were part of the way that I perceived the characters. Obviously, I would have to know what character was present before I could “see” its halo. Every letter “A” looks burgundy red to me, but an ambiguous piece of letter “A” does not have this quality.

    It’s reasonable to think that other people—probably mostly women—have this same color-added sense when they perceive human forms; but of course, the form must be perceived before its aura can be perceived.

    • Replies: @notbe mk 2
    @Intelligent Dasein

    interesting

  • Ben Sixsmith writes in The Critic on my anthology Noticing: Why this new book will pass unnoticed Columnist Steve Sailer’s views on genetics and IQ have placed him beyond the pale for bien pensant reviewers 4 April, 2024 By Ben Sixsmith One of the most influential and widely-read opinion columnists in the Western world is...
  • @res
    @Reg Cæsar

    Not seeing the brains in that piece (credentials != brains, though I suppose that aspect adds to the Obamaesqueness of her biography). I mean, gems like these?

    This reads as epic projection. Who is doing the social engineering using reality denial as a tool?


    Imagine — the world we are living in could indeed be the best of all possible worlds if only we would let the right people (them) distribute power and resources as they see fit (to more of them).
     
    Universal human hierarchy? Is it so hard to understand there are many traits and they don't all align? Much less important traits (e.g. intelligence) not having a simple hierarchy themselves (e.g. multi-dimensional).

    It must be incredibly frustrating for the hereditarians that people at the bottom of their universal human hierarchy keep refusing to accept that they should let their betters run the show.
     
    Eagerly awaiting the better measure for intelligence she supplies. But not holding my breath.

    The answer, of course, is that IQ is an inappropriate metric for and psychologists should stop saying that IQ measures intelligence.
     
    I do find it fascinating how goodthinkers seem so focused on ideas like this. Why might that be? Is there a more parsimonious explanation than projection?

    the idea that humans are subject to a natural order, a universal human hierarchy that organizes us from better to worse.
     
    Her invocation of all those people would be more compelling if she would engage with work like Jensen's (a notable name not dropped) g book and Emil Kirkegaard's (a name dropped, but only to say what a bad person he is) admixture studies of race and IQ.

    If anyone sees a worthwhile observation in that piece could they please point me to it?

    P.S. You are right about there being lots of name dropping though. Also a lot of ad hominem, but that is standard for pieces like that.

    P.P.S. Looking at one specific argument from Sasha Gusev she references (a series of tweets): https://twitter.com/SashaGusevPosts/status/1696337989050220794?s=20
    Here is a detailed response. https://twitter.com/DamienMorris/status/1700467509726450042

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Intelligent Dasein

    If anyone sees a worthwhile observation in that piece could they please point me to it?

    I think what we have here is not an intellectual revolt, but the beginnings of one. Miss Keira, like most modern people, does not really have the vocabulary or the conceptual architecture to develop the kind of case she needs to make. Even though she knows that something sticks in her craw concerning “hereditarianism,” she does not understand why, and all her education leads her in the wrong direction. So, instead of pointing you to a worthwhile observation, I will point you to the spot where she torpedoes her own argument. It’s right at the beginning of the article:

    Hereditarians, biological essentialists, those who really like the idea of a universal human hierarchy to simplify and categorize and organize this messy thing we call life all share one quiet certainty: Our refusal to acquiesce to natural law is what is holding us back.

    I know what she means by “biological essentialists,” but properly speaking, that phrase is just a meaningless combination of words. If something is essential, then it does not take a modifier like “biological.” Furthermore, in speaking somewhat derisively of essentialism in general, she throws away her own life preserver. Real essentialism, of course, precludes the kind of biological reductionism she is arguing against. If she had a correct understanding of things, she would see it as an ally instead of a boogeyman.

    I gather it would surprise her to learn that HBDers, at least the less doltish variety thereof, ruthlessly reject essentialism because they understand it means the end of their operation. There is an intrinsic materialist implication in HBD which Keira apparently shares for other reasons, so she is somewhat ill-equipped to win this argument. However, while HBD entails materialism, materialism does not entail HBD, so it is possible for two materialists to argue with each other about this; but since neither one has a philosophical advantage over the other, these arguments are merely political not scientific.

  • I recorded a 2.5 hour podcast with Bronze Age Pervert here. First hour is free for non-subscribers. One highlight of the paywalled last 1.5 hours is me considering BAP's theory that the dominance of black sprinters since the mid 1960s is possibly due to blacks benefiting more from PEDs. By the way, you can buy...
  • @Mike Tre
    @DenverGregg

    Fran Drescher is currently in the studio recording it. She laughs authentically throughout at all the dry humor.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Fran Drescher is currently in the studio recording it.

    Life imitates art imitates life, or is it the other way around?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Why can't it be both?

    https://youtu.be/-O29ZA24Jao?si=Tk3J1N43R6HiJH1m

  • @Gordo
    @Almost Missouri

    How do you do that?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross

    Just go back and hit the button you want, you stupid fuck-stick.

    Jesus Lord Almighty, the stupidity of you white IQ fanatics is ever a sight to behold.

    • LOL: Gordo
    • Troll: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Pleasant, aren't you?

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @New Dealer, @HFR, @Twinkie

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "the stupidity of you white IQ fanatics is ever a sight to behold."

    I really don't think there are very many "IQ fanatics" haunting these parts. I think people are more concerned, not with IQ in its essence (if there even is one), but rather with the notion that very important policy decisions, ones which gravely affect the future of this country and its people, are being made based on an inaccurate view of reality. Moreover, a wrong view of reality which is deliberately wrong, even maliciously so, and based on certain malignant self-interests.

    Imagine a theory of human anatomy and medicine in which, for weird fanatical religious reasons, it is absolutely forbidden to mention or acknowledge that kidneys exist. Now try running a blood panel based on this theory.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: That race does not exist is a popular view, but whenever liberals get in power, do they act upon it? If you believed this, you might assume that the current Democratic administration would therefore phase out the benighted federal racial categories. Yet last week the Biden administration’s Office...
  • @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Thankfully, the number of young white men enlisting in the military has dropped dramatically, not that Steve noticed.

    As to natural rights, I'd suggest checking out the back and forth on the topic between Paul Gottfried and the Z-Man vs Michael Anton. Just my opinion, but it was a tad embarrassing for Anton.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Intelligent Dasein

    As to natural rights, I’d suggest checking out the back and forth on the topic between Paul Gottfried and the Z-Man vs Michael Anton. Just my opinion, but it was a tad embarrassing for Anton.

    Z-Man is a deranged lunatic who wins every argument in his own mind because he equivocates on important concepts. This does not fool intelligent people who understand the relevant territory, but his readership seems to consist of people who are so damn angry that they just don’t care about his bad arguments. He should stay out of this fight. I’d like to think that the guy means well, but he’s not a philosopher.

    • Replies: @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    @Intelligent Dasein

    What is "deranged" about facing up to the fact that natural rights don't exist?

    It is one of the most sober-minded things a political person can do.

    Replies: @FPD72

  • From People magazine:
  • @Nicholas Stix
    @res


    “I think it more a matter of her thinking she has an unassailable platform and F*ck You money.”
     
    Considering what the authorities have been doing to the President, in the age of total politicization, does the concept of F*ck You money exist any more?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @res, @scrivener3

    Yes, I agree.

    To reply to both Nicholas Stix and res:

    From a cynical and radical perspective, the trans agenda is a pretty good hill to die on, and taking others’ FU money is the whole objective. If you’re looking for wealthy individuals to sue or powerful institutions to appropriate, then having the ability to accuse them of running afoul of some strange gender ideology is pretty good leverage.

    In debates about leftist ideology, it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that the ideology was never the point for these folks. “Cultural Marxism” has always been a cynical Machiavellian power play that specifically targets classical liberal societies, and it’s been very successful at it.

  • I get the feeling reading this that J.K. Rowling thinks the cancel culture is bluffing.

    They’re not bluffing.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Or that her tremendous wealth will protect her. It's not a certainty.

    , @res
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I think it more a matter of her thinking she has an unassailable platform and F*ck You money.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    I am mystified by the woke choosing transgender as a hill to die on. Is it just an exercise in demonstrating power?

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Nicholas Stix

  • From American Greatness: Steve Sailer: The Hidden Figure of the New Right Noticing will be welcome addition to the libraries of long-time fans and will serve as an introduction for younger readers who may have grown up in Sailer’s substantial intellectual shadow. By Jeremy Carl March 30, 2024 “If the meritocracy was real, Steve Sailer...
  • @Frau Katze
    @Dennis Dale

    Re: Pseudonyms

    But how do we know that “Dennis Dale” isn’t a pseudonym?

    I started with a pseudonym before I retired. I’d read more than one story of people getting fired over politically incorrect comments on sites such as this. I suspect this is why people are cautious.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Intelligent Dasein

    I believe everybody needs to be using their real identity online, at all times. This should be codified into law. There should be no anonymous posting and no screen names. The blanket of anonymity has enabled the worst people here to say all sorts of insulting things without fear of reprisal, and that needs to stop.

    The problem is, the people to whom this rule most needs to be applied are the very people who would never abide by it voluntarily, so there is no advantage in doxing oneself until it can be made mandatory for all.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Intelligent Dasein

    The Wall Street Journal apparently uses the name on your credit card for your comments. I have no problem with that.

    But Unz definitely has more controversial content. Some people here find even a screen name too intrusive and use the “anonymous” option.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Matthew Kelly
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I've long assumed the only reason we have any "dissident right" (or whatever you want to call it) at all is due largely, if not entirely, to the ability for people to comment anonymously on the internet--i.e., dissidents who are free to discuss the most heretical topics without fear of reprisal.

    Trolling and other malfeasance necessarily comes with the territory, but the alternative is getting imprisoned for years on end for, e.g., saying something innocuous but offensive to TPTB like "It's OK to be White".

    PS, why has my book not shipped yet? Label was printed days ago! I want my Noticing!

    , @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    the worst people here to say all sorts of insulting things without fear of reprisal, and that needs to stop.
     
    You don’t say!

    Care to guess which commenter wrote the following?

    Just go back and hit the button you want, you stupid fuck-stick.

    Jesus Lord Almighty, the stupidity of you white IQ fanatics is ever a sight to behold.
     
    The blasphemy is a nice additional touch.
  • Here's a nature-nurture question I've often wondered about but never quite answered: why, until the late 20th Century, were there so few star baseball players who were the sons of other star baseball players? Today, it's common to see grand old baseball names like Yastrzemski, Guerrero, Bichette, and Biggio in the current headlines. But that's...
  • It’s just a simple matter of collimating time and effort. Every generation exerts a multiplier effect on the generation that comes after it, because it becomes easier to do things that have been done before. Whether it’s baseball, or admission to Ivy League colleges, or the Flynn Effect, or any of the other things that people here like to talk about, the underlying dynamic is the same.

    However, sometimes you have to take a step back and ask yourself what the relevant criteria for success really are. I submit that in baseball, it isn’t actually the ability to play—it’s the ability to professionalize, which is a whole different thing. At the margins, simply having the notion that this is a valid way of making a living and is therefore worth pursuing, makes a big difference. Then there is also the whole process of maintaining eligibility throughout one’s youth and then negotiating a proper contract, which can all be pretty high hurdles for a neophyte. Having a dad who knows the business can be decisive.

    • Agree: Paleo Retiree
  • From American Greatness: Steve Sailer: The Hidden Figure of the New Right Noticing will be welcome addition to the libraries of long-time fans and will serve as an introduction for younger readers who may have grown up in Sailer’s substantial intellectual shadow. By Jeremy Carl March 30, 2024 “If the meritocracy was real, Steve Sailer...
  • @HA
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "If you took Sailer’s comment section and redacted all those from the Un-mod Squad (or in response to them), leaving only those coming from real people with something to say, you will have reduced its bulk by a very considerable margin."

    So bitter, so salty. Does Easter typically make you want to go out and harass some nuns?

    And let me guess -- when it comes to chocolate bunnies, you're one of those who always bites the heads off first, am I right?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    In demonstration of point, ladies and gentlemen, I draw your attention to the fact that this rubbish from HA has just increased the comment count.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  • @Jenner Ickham Errican
    The schvitzing numpties (Bull Moose, Frau Katze, New Dealer, Graham) calling for Steve to decamp for Substack don’t seem to realize that Substack has a vastly inferior commenting system compared to Ron’s brilliant setup. If Steve’s engagement drops due to Substack’s boring text-only commenting format, Steve’s regular readership numbers and donation amounts will take a big hit.

    Compare Scott Greer’s following on X with Steve’s: Steve has ¾ the following Scott has, but Scott’s Substack comments count per article is far less than Steve’s is on The Unz Review.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Intelligent Dasein

    Compare Scott Greer’s following on X with Steve’s: Steve has ¾ the following Scott has, but Scott’s Substack comments count per article is far less than Steve’s is on The Unz Review.

    Does Scott Greer have a local version of Jack D and other auto-approved foghorns collectively accounting for half his comments?

    If you took Sailer’s comment section and redacted all those from the Un-mod Squad (or in response to them), leaving only those coming from real people with something to say, you will have reduced its bulk by a very considerable margin.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "If you took Sailer’s comment section and redacted all those from the Un-mod Squad (or in response to them), leaving only those coming from real people with something to say, you will have reduced its bulk by a very considerable margin."

    So bitter, so salty. Does Easter typically make you want to go out and harass some nuns?

    And let me guess -- when it comes to chocolate bunnies, you're one of those who always bites the heads off first, am I right?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    leaving only those coming from real people with something to say
     
    Such as you, right?

    Let me get this straight. *You* are a "real" person, but others who are supposedly auto-approved or otherwise whose comments are approved promptly are "fake" people?

    Do you live in some sort of a video game world where you - with your genius ignored by others - have agency, but others are just non-playable characters? Good grief, man, I thought I was cocky, your self-regard is something else!

    At least my cockiness manifests in real life accomplishments, but your arrogance seems to manifest as both bitterness (as a self-regarded unrecognized genius) and contempt for others (who allegedly lack "something to say").

    Do you want to be regarded as thoughtful and intelligent by others (because you do seem to crave it)? How about this? Stop spitting venom at the author of this blog, stop belittling other commenters as morons unworthy of your own self-regarded intellect, and just write interesting and intelligent comments (as pithily as possible, given that you are prone to verbose, antiquarian tendencies, to say the least). You might be surprised - after a while - that you have increased traction.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  • Learning is a societal and individual good. American businesses, however, have weaponized higher education into an overcredentialization racket that coerces millions of young people to borrow hundreds of billions of dollars in tuition, room and board, often to study subjects in which they have little interest, for the chance to be hired for a job....
  • What did this article have to do with healthcare?

  • From American Greatness: Steve Sailer: The Hidden Figure of the New Right Noticing will be welcome addition to the libraries of long-time fans and will serve as an introduction for younger readers who may have grown up in Sailer’s substantial intellectual shadow. By Jeremy Carl March 30, 2024 “If the meritocracy was real, Steve Sailer...
  • @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Everyone involved in the new Right and the Trump populist movement knows about Steve Sailer and we all refer to him regularly.

    But his publisher Ron Unz doesn't seem to think as much of old Steve, judging from a little squabble I got into with Ron after commenting somewhere else on this latrine of a website. He thinks all Sailer's smart readers left because Steve doesn't have the right analysis of Ukraine or Gaza. Personally I find Steve's refusal to add to these over-analyzed topics to be refreshing, whether it's from lack of interest or not feeling like he has much to add. More people should try it.

    Ron doesn't think much of Tucker or Joe Rogan, either. But he likes Andrew Anglin, who is a dolt who thinks he isn't, for some reason.

    Steve, get on Substack already. You'll get plenty of subscribers. It's hard to share your articles with decent people when they go to the site and it's a clearinghouse for warmed-over Protocols of Zion.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @The Spiritual Works of Mercy, @pirelli, @Intelligent Dasein, @Chrisnonymous, @New Dealer, @ScarletNumber, @Twinkie, @Graham, @Ennui, @Dennis Dale, @jb, @Dumbo

    He thinks all Sailer’s smart readers left because Steve doesn’t have the right analysis of Ukraine or Gaza.

    Ron runs the website, he has access to all the stats, and he is nothing if not obsessive about his numbers. Even without access to the stats, it’s pretty obvious that Sailer has suffered a large drop-off in readership, since many of the old commenter handles simply don’t show up here anymore. The fact that Steve is basically a fame-hungry midwit with a frog’s eye view of reality was obvious to me since the early ’00s, but it took his total butchering of Covid and Ukraine for his readership to catch up. Stevites have a siege mentality and they will reflexively combat anybody who threatens their hero, but even most of them eventually saw the truth. The only people left on this blog are the true sycophants, the handful of auto-approved blunderbusses, and the standout effort-poster whose name really ought to be in the byline, Jack D.

    When Tucker Carlson gives idiotic quips stating that Steve ought to be one of the most famous writers in the world, it’s obvious that he does not know from Adam anything about Steve Sailer or what he has said. Some aid whispered to Tucker that Steve writes about stuff the mainstream journalists don’t say, and that quip just kind of fell together in Tucker’s head. It’s an easy line to come up with, requiring no special insight or familiarity with the subject, only the belief that the subject is getting short shrift from the gatekeepers and powerbrokers.

    In fact, Steve does not get short shrift. Everybody in quant journalism knows who he is, if only for his nasty habit of needling them with harassing tweets whenever he needs to up his own profile. Tucker is not in quant journalism, so he thinks Steve is just as unfamiliar to everybody as he is to himself. So, he comes up with a throwaway line that tries to sound sophisticated. If Tucker knew what Steve actually thinks about Covid and Ukraine, he would forget all about him and move on.

    • Disagree: MEH 0910
    • LOL: Gordo
    • Troll: bomag
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    The only people left on this blog are the true sycophants, the handful of auto-approved blunderbusses, and the standout effort-poster whose name really ought to be in the byline, Jack D.
     
    You are still here (still spitting venom at the author, apparently because you are sad that the world does not recognize your genius).

    “Midwit” did you write?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  • iSteve commenter B36 asks:
  • @Wilkey
    @ScarletNumber


    Paul Simon hasn’t written a hit song in over 40 years. His attempt at producing a Broadway musical was a tremendous flop. I think Paul is better off sitting at home and collecting his royalty checks
     
    .

    Graceland was released in 1986, 38 years ago. Some people consider it to be his best album. It’s not, but it’s still pretty good.

    Brickell co-wrote a musical called Bright Star a few years back with, of all people, Steve Martin. It’s a country/bluegrass/fiddle & banjo music sort of affair. It got lost in all the insanity over the much overrated Hamilton, but it’s actually quite good.

    As for what Simon should do in his golden years: I think he should do whatever the hell he wants, and enjoy what time he has left. If he wants to perform then he should perform. If people don’t think it’s worth seeing then that’s another matter.

    There are a lot of elderly rock stars still trying to cash in one last time. A few may still be trying to bed groupies (though the groupies are now probably all in their 50s & 60s). Viagra probably helps on that front. And then there are the idiot fans with more money than brains, who are willing to pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars to see the aging rock stars on stage, mostly for bragging rights, even if they can’t perform worth a damn. It’s lunacy, but that’s the world for you.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @ScarletNumber

    And then there are the idiot fans with more money than brains, who are willing to pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars to see the aging rock stars on stage, mostly for bragging rights, even if they can’t perform worth a damn. It’s lunacy, but that’s the world for you.

    The further we drift in time from the epicenter of rock’n’roll culture, the more obvious it becomes that the whole thing was a bubble. That is not to say that some of the musicians were not talented, but the excessive amount of attention and energy and money that this music absorbed, the staggering influence it had over 1.5-2 generations, is not something that can be explained in terms of any sort of “fundamentals.”

    It was a giant cultural distortion that is now on the wane. Someday, perhaps 30 years from now when most of the Boomers are gone and the Xers are too tired from cleaning up their mess, nobody will be left to understand what the big deal was.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Over at “Why Evolution is True” readers debate the point that rock music stopped being any good on the 70s or 80s.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/03/29/more-evidence-for-the-decline-and-fall-of-rock-and-roll/

  • I'm sure these new cantilever skyscrapers are designed by fine engineers who have checked everything over and over and over. But they make a lot of people antsy just looking at them. And they make you think about the distant future. If the 1250' Empire State Building fell over sideways, it would wipe out a...
  • It’s nice to hope that future generations will be richer than us so they will easily be able to afford to maintain our follies so that they don’t fall over sideways.

    No skyscraper will ever fall over sideways. Once it started to lean, the tortional force in the moment-arm would greatly exceed the sheer strength of the construction materials, so it would just crumple at the axis of rotation and then fall straight down from there. Skyscrapers are not trees.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Most of the modern skyscrapers have strong steel framing. In case of failure due to overloading, steel structures undergo plastic deformation and bend. It will look catastrophic but won't "fall straight down ". If the connectors fail, typically it leads to pancake failure where they fall in place (like the WTC collapse). There have been only two major natural building collapses in modern times. One was a design error, and the other was due to corrosion.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfside_condominium_collapse

  • In point of fact, all skyscrapers are time bomb structures, not just the weird-looking ones. The basic physical principles involved in this type of building introduce certain problems that cannot be mitigated. They are inherent in the very nature of the thing.

    The reason why large portions of the Flavian Amphitheater are still standing after 2000 years is because its construction relied on the static principles of support and load to provide stability. Because it’s made of stone and held together by gravity, it cannot really fall apart. It is already in a least-energy configuration, so it basically ages no faster than a pile of rock—which it is.

    On the other hand, skyscrapers are held together by the dynamic tension of structural steel members distributing forces to one another. A skyscraper has more in common with a suspension bridge than it does with the Coliseum. There is a lot of live tension in the structure, and it is most definitely not in a least-energy configuration. This means that when it fails, it will fail catastrophically. There is no other way it can be. The live forces will cause it to warp and buckle, and they will pull the whole building down around itself.

    Every one of these structures is going to come crashing down within the next two or three centuries if it is not deliberately dismantled first. This is going to be a serious problem for the world going forward.

    • Replies: @Mr Mox
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks!

    A bit like planting a tree near your house: sooner or later the future owner of the house will be facing an expensive problem - one way or the other...

  • Sadly, this is for real. It's not made up with AI or anything. It's just as bad as it looks. At 1:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a 1000 foot container freighter ran into the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, causing a huge section of I-695 to collapse into the river. I'm guessing deaths are...
  • There was no ship. It was obviously a controlled demolition. No steel-frame bridge ever collapsed into its own footprint at freefall speed. Even professional marine pilots admit that they couldn’t have hit that pile if they tried. There were no Jews driving over the bridge at 1:30 AM. Larry Silverstein said “pull it.”

    ~Shipwrights and Helmsmen for 3/26 Truth

    • Troll: Gallatin
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You need a new anti-conspiracy theory. Since you brought it up:

    Who really owns the ship?
    What was in the cargo?
    What cargo was just offloaded?
    How much is the ship and cargo insured for?
    Are bridges insured, I doubt it?
    Did the bridge have pre-existing problems which required its replacement?
    What else is going on in Baltimore/mid Atlantic coast region which requires a big distraction?
    Is the Belgorod nearby? [just kidding]

    +++

    My guess is the lights going out is the main generator going off (duh). The black smoke might be either the standby generator doing an emergency start or the main engine restarting if it had to be stopped to reverse. These seem like secondary events not the problem. Perhaps the ship had multiple problems, but bad luck simultaneous random failures on multiple critical systems are rare. Is more common to have an initial failure (fire) which takes out other systems including backups. A huge amount of effort has been invested to make sure this doesn't happen.

    These days a lot of equipment is computer controlled so the number of crew is less than it might be.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Muse

    , @Old Prude
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Favorite comment so far!

  • @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    It sounds like a lady near the camera expressing shock and dismay.
     
    I expect whomever insured that ship is in a state of shock and dismay as well.


    The ship involved, Dali, is a Singapore-registered container ship.
     
    Can anyone comment on how much insurance foreign-flagged vessels are required to carry when working out of US ports? One would hope that, in addition to the loss of life (which is irreplaceable), the US taxpayers are not going to be lumbered with a gargantuan bill for damage inflicted by a foreign vessel.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @William Badwhite, @Daniel H, @Reg Cæsar, @pyrrhus

    Can anyone comment on how much insurance foreign-flagged vessels are required to carry when working out of US ports?

    The nation of registry does not have sweet fuck all to do with how much liability insurance the ship carries. That would be an affair for the owners and their counterparties.

  • An interesting question is how negative is the correlation between sports and music. For example, on Twitter, Samuel Johnson tracked down a quote from Paul McCartney about how none of the Beatles were interested in playing or watching soccer, which must be pretty statistically unlikely for four straight Liverpudlian blokes born in the 1940s. One...
  • Nobody has mentioned Kyle Turley yet, so I will.

    https://gridironrecords.com/

    I dimly recall that he was part of some kind of reality show back in the early 2000s that teamed up NFL players with professional recording artists and had them compete in a music contest. I have no idea what the hell the show was called. I remember that Turley was part of it, and Michelle Branch, and the Gramatica brothers were also there. I can’t remember anything else, and I can’t find anything about it on the internet, but I know it happened. Maybe someone else will have better luck.

  • Baseball wonder Shohei Ohtani, who recently signed a contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers nominally worth $700 million, is involved in a gambling scandal involving $4.5 million from his bank account winding up with a bookie. Sports gambling is still illegal in the state of California (although it is recently being heavily promoted by the...
  • @SafeNow
    @Nicholas Stix


    How would you know (that Ohtani seems like a good guy). He doesn’t speak English
     
    .

    I read in Halo Hangout that Ohtani is one of the most likable people in baseball. Further, the psychological studies tell us that you can judge a lot about a person’s sociability by his appearance and overt conduct. (Morality, no - - you can be fooled.)

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Intelligent Dasein

    Further, the psychological studies tell us that you can judge a lot about a person’s sociability by his appearance and overt conduct.

    Sociability is appearance and overt conduct. This is like saying you can judge a lot about a person’s solvency from their financial statements.

  • I started writing opinion journalism in 1990 during the Political Correctness era, so I recall vividly that Woke 2020s are much like the PC era of the early 1990s, only more so. Basically, we had the same trends back then for the same reasons, only now they are much more severe and stupid. That would...
  • @Mark G.
    The nineties was when the former sixties student radicals entered positions of power in higher education, the media and the government. Two of these former student radicals, Bill and Hillary, even moved into the White House.

    I remember all that but what I remember even more was the decline of the conservative movement, especially its leading intellectual journal, National Review. It seemed like NR stopped hiring good new writers while starting a process of getting rid of the good ones they already had like Joseph Sobran, Peter Brimelow and John Derbyshire.

    I have always wondered what happened to Bill Buckley. His career started off brilliantly but his last years were frittered away writing spy novels, doing organ recitals, yachting and living a lavish lifestyle. He professed in an interview he was bored with reading free market economists like Mises or Friedman and wrote a particularly nasty obituary of the free market economist Murray Rothbard. He spent much time and effort in sucking up to the neocons and the pretty unconservative Bush and Bush Jr.

    Replies: @Curle, @Intelligent Dasein, @R.G. Camara, @M.Rostau, @Hypnotoad666, @Ian M.

    Mark, if I may, I don’t think Bill Buckley ever was much of an ideologue. His conservatism was more of a class preference, and I doubt he ever had even a notion of having a career as pundit. The fact that he spent his last years living courtier’s life does not surprise me in the least.

    For my part, I do appreciate writers like that. Conservatism is not so much a doctrinaire philosophy as it is a compendium of tales of a far green country.

  • From the New York Times news section: My impression is that the term "racial reckoning" has largely been dropped from hard news sections of newspapers (e.g., political news) after the Biden Administration figured out sometime in mid-2022 that the George Floyd craze was a vote loser and put out the word to the MSM to...
  • @SFG
    @Muggles

    Barbie was successful because lots and lots and lots of girls played with Barbies growing up. Mattel is looking into a Rock 'em-Sock 'em Robots movie, for crying out loud. People are nostalgic, they like to remember their childhood, and Hollywood is really good at movies aimed at children or people remembering being children. How many Transformers movies did they make? (Anyone here who says 'none worth mentioning after 1986', I hear you and salute the iron birds of fortune, but from a money point of view they did quite well.)

    I've had a policy of not seeing Hollywood movies unless they have a white male protagonist. Let Hollywood's diversity bite them in the wallet. So I did see Oppenheimer, and Wonka, though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick. I'm told European series still employ white people; MHz has a few of those. Liberals have been doing 'conscious consumption' for a while; no reason you can't steal a few of the enemy's tools. I mean, Bud Light blinked.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    though sadly I missed Top Gun: Maverick.

    Top Gun: Maverick was an estrogen-soaked rehash of the oldest and lamest themes in moviemaking. It was absolutely awful. If you can make it through the first 10 minutes and watch Tom Cruise safely “eject” from an experimental aircraft that disintegrates while pushing Mach 11, you’ll have an idea of how accurate the film is with respect to the physics of aviation. If you then watch him just casually steal an F/A-18 Hornet and gatecrash the test range without anybody being the wiser, you’ll know how accurate it was with respect to military practices. And this is all just filler for its extremely thin human-interest story.

    TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.

    • LOL: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Shale boi
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I tried watching it and stopped after the first few minutes. It's a small thing, but seeing him drive onto base, on a motorcycle sans helmet, sans safety vest just showed me how silly it was going to be. Anybody who's actually served knows that you had to have a helmet even in the 80s and in the early 90s they required the safety vest and safety boots to come on base with a motorcycle. And no...it doesn't matter if you are an O-6. Even a badass O-6. Seems minor, but I knew the thing would just be one orgy of music video silliness, after that little bit. So I turned it off.

    P.s. Had an F-14/F-18 pilot as a roommate in San Diego. And went to the Miramar O-club and all that. (It was OK...cheap booze and occasionally some women...but not as crazy as right after TOpGun came out...we did better in PB/MB actually or having "HammerEx" parties after WestPac that somehow attracted minor Hollywood people down...cameraladies are the wildest.) Best story my roomie told was about "Bug"Roach talking him down onto the deck on a really shitty weather day when they kept sending him around because of the deck being fouled, etc. and then he had to tank...which itself was stressful knowing that he really needed the juice. Told the story to another aviator and he instantly knew who I meant when I said "uh, some insect name LSO":

    https://theaviationist.com/2021/01/07/cdr-john-bug-roach-a-legendary-fighter-pilot-and-probably-the-greatest-lso-landing-signal-officer-ever/

    P.s.s. I did do three weeks for an exercise on the Nimitz though and it really does look like a movie, with the flame coming out of the jets and all. Or I guess the movies look like what it is.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Intelligent Dasein


    It was absolutely awful.
     
    You didn’t like the part where they showed the highway to the danger zone?
    , @anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein


    TGM was like watching a woman’s idea of what goes on at “airplane camp,” where they imagine the fighter pilots behave no differently than the bickering girls they work with at Target.
     
    One out of five naval aviators is female. All the air crew in the Navy flyover at the Superbowl (four F/A-18s and an F-35) were women.

    https://i.imgur.com/jlVmd3y.jpg

    Above, Commander Rebecca Calder, 2004 graduate of Navy Fighter Weapons School (AKA TopGun), combat veteran of Operations Enduring Freedom, Southern Watch and Iraqi Freedom, flying the F/A-18, accrued some 2,500 flight hours and 421 carrier traps in her career.
    How about you?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @SFG
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Honestly? It’s a Hollywood movie. I don’t expect realism on that sort of thing. If they accidentally made one of the dumb, stupid action movies they used to, that’s good enough for me.

  • From iSteve commenter jb: ... how I think liberal affirmative action supporters actually justify AA in their own heads (as opposed to the lazy “it must be because they hate white people” thinking I see so often in forums like this): ... 1. We know that blacks are intrinsically just as smart as other races....
  • @jb
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You are absolutely right of course, but as the comments here (and in many other forums) make clear, there are a lot of people on the "Dissident Right" who make unbelievably obtuse and counterproductive arguments like "liberals support affirmative action because they hate white people and want to see them genocided". Those are the people I am arguing with. They are a boat anchor for the entire movement (such as it is).

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks. I appreciate your reply, and I agree with you about the movement.

  • From iSteve commenter jb:

    No offense to jb, but this has always been the argument for Affirmative Action. If this needs explication, it makes me wonder what everyone else here thought they were arguing with. Singling this out for special attention in 2024 is lightyears behind the curve.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @jb
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You are absolutely right of course, but as the comments here (and in many other forums) make clear, there are a lot of people on the "Dissident Right" who make unbelievably obtuse and counterproductive arguments like "liberals support affirmative action because they hate white people and want to see them genocided". Those are the people I am arguing with. They are a boat anchor for the entire movement (such as it is).

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  • We are supposed to be living in an era of Big Data, but there are strong trends toward institutions restricting of data as researchers come up with inconvenient findings. For example, Tory MP Neil O'Brien reports: The Great Immigration Data Disaster Officials are deleting the data we need for a more sensible debate NEIL O'BRIEN...
  • @HA
    @Mike Tre

    "there were no excess deaths among children."

    But there were plenty among the abuelitas and grandmas who those children infected, and whose loss meant a bunch of baby mommas had to either give up one of their shifts at the laundromat or dollar store to look after the kids (or more likely, fob off the chore of babysitting an infant onto some 6-yr-old brother and sister), all of which caused major disruption. I.e. unlike you, the rest of the world doesn't live in a bubble of conspiracy memes, and people actually have to depend on one another.

    I know you like to think lockdowns killed everyone, and don't really care that the data doesn't support that or your long list of other conspiracy memes, but that's what comes from living in that little bubble. If you want to stay there, you won't be missed, but next time, if you don't have the know-how to crunch the data that's out there so as to verify your loony memes, seek out some other hill to die on.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Mr. Anon

    I know you like to think lockdowns killed everyone, and don’t really care that the data doesn’t support that or your long list of other conspiracy memes

    The data supports the contention that the vast majority of “Covid” deaths were iatrogenic. This was discussed here already when a paper linked to by Steve admitted, in a very roundabout way, that people admitted to hospital and placed on ventilators died at an elevated rate irrespective of prior Covid diagnosis.

    The Covid epidemic really ought to be called the ventilator and remdesivir epidemic, because that’s what did the actual killing. This, of course, is entirely consistent with deaths tracking 1-2 weeks after hospital admittance.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre, Mark G., Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @HA
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "The data supports the contention that the vast majority of “Covid” deaths were iatrogenic....that people admitted to hospital and placed on ventilators died.."

    No, it does not -- using big words like iatrogenic will not dig you out of this hole. Same goes for your pathetic attempt to retcon this into a debate about ventilators -- observe that COVID deaths were occurring well into the second year, whereas doctors had by Apr 2020 already given up on ventilators for anyone but the sickest patients (who, having reached that dire stage, had no viable options apart from that very, very bad one):


    Apr 8 2020: With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19...Even as hospitals and governors raise the alarm about a shortage of ventilators, some critical care physicians are questioning the widespread use of the breathing machines for Covid-19 patients, saying that large numbers of patients could instead be treated with less intensive respiratory support.

    Apr 9 2020: Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients


    Apr 16 2020: Why Ventilators May Not Be Working as Well for COVID-19 Patients as Doctors Hoped

    Apr 23 2020: Special Report: As virus advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate...
     

    Is that clear enough for you? Remember that story about Elon Musk sending ventilators? That was from MARCH of 2020. I know a Nietzschean fanboy like you loves the Elon Musks of the world -- slavishly parroting his memes the way you do -- and doing that again here, but let's get another take:

    Elon Musk’s claim that ventilators killed COVID-19 patients confuses correlation with causation... Flawed reasoning: Ventilators are only used on patients who are the most ill. As such, patients on ventilators have a greater risk of dying compared to patients who aren’t. Claiming that ventilators caused COVID-19 patients to die because a great many number of patients on ventilators die conflates correlation with causation.
     
    The article is a detailed rundown of how the truthers are grasping at ventilators as their new rationale for explaining how they were somehow right all along, but it's not going to work outside your little echo chamber. Too many people were paying attention. The fact that someone like Mike Tre needs the likes of you to try and rehabilitate his finger-pointing tells us all we need to know about how desperate the truthers are for white knights, but sorry, Wittkowski is still out, and Berenson and Malone are still disgraced, and don't try rehabilitating Hail either, him and his "eye-catching spikes". Do better.

    So, it seems clear that once Trump loses (or runs out his 2nd term), the fanboys are going to start worshipping Musk as their new messiah, am I right? Good thing he was born in South Africa and ineligible for the presidency, but I guess he might try paying off enough lawmakers to get that changed, which would be especially ironic given how convinced Trump was that Obama was born in Kenya, but then, no one ever accused him and his followers of being consistent. The rules only apply to other people.

    , @Mark G.
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Remdesivir was ineffective. Studies showed it reduced the duration of the disease but not really the death rate. However, unlike something like HCQ or Ivermectin, it was a patented drug instead of an expired patent drug so they could charge three thousand dollars for it. It was also given intravenously so you could keep patients in the hospital and charge them lots of money for the hospital stay.

    The ineffectiveness of remdesivir was covered up because it was usually used in combination with inexpensive steroid drugs that cured the patient. I was put on both while in the hospital with Covid.

    After I was in the hospital four days a doctor I had not seen before came into my room. He looked at me with a puzzled look on his face and said I did not look sick and he was sending me home. A couple weeks later I visited my personal doctor. Also with a puzzled look on his face, he said he was surprised when he looked at my x-rays and saw absolutely no lung damage. This is something most hospitalized patients would have as an after effect. I have always wondered if handing me a bottle of steroid pills and sending me home would have worked about as well as getting the remdesivir pumped into me.

    Replies: @HA

    , @Dumbo
    @Intelligent Dasein

    How HBD people (like "HA" iSteve etc) think they are:

    https://dailystormer.in/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/851STORMERMEME060324.jpg-1536x958.jpg

    How they really are:

    https://i.imgflip.com/3stpx1.jpg

  • @Lugash
    @ic1000

    I've been watching Dr. John since early February 2020.

    That's basically his evolution but there's a few more points:

    He bought into the selling of masks as ultra effective and promoted it, then it turned out to be not that effective.

    He bought into the mRNA vaccines being 90%+ effective, durable and blocking transmission to other people.

    He's been hinting that nurses in UK care homes were euthanizing elderly patients with Valium early on in the pandemic. More recently I think he came out and explicitly stated that this was happening.

    He's been talking about the excess death rate for a year and a half and how no one is investigating it.

    He's recently started talking about the white fibrous clots that have been found in cadavers. He's interviewed a couple of morticians, who seem to be the only people talking about it. He's insistent that these clots are a new pathology. If some of the board doctors could review his videos and comment it would be appreciated.

    Spike proteins being found all over the body, not just the injection site. Incorrect injection technique.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    white fibrous clots

    Uncontrolled nucleic acid replication isn’t good for you.

  • @J.Ross
    @Hypnotoad666

    They don't think data be racis, but it do.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    That was brilliant.

    • Agree: J.Ross
  • From the Daily Mail: Almost certainly, that's what most presidents of Harvard believed, at least back when they hired smart ones: getting rid of affirmative action/quotas/DEI would cut the black share of tenured Harvard professors by 80% or more. So that's why they don't do it. I like to joke that just as in the...
  • @Guest007
    @Colin Wright

    Becoming an attending surgeon takes years of residency and supervision. Does one really think that a high risk black surgeon would make it through the process instead of being redirected to something else? And why would a black graduates of Harvard who was admitted under affirmative action be less qualified that a black graduate of UNC-Chapel Hill who was admitted without affirmative action.

    Also, if one is going to worry about qualification, what about those who got into medical school as a legacy or the child of a physician? Does one worry about that?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Colin Wright, @Eric135, @Art Deco

    Also, if one is going to worry about qualification, what about those who got into medical school as a legacy or the child of a physician? Does one worry about that?

    Yes, I worry about all of it. You have to avoid hospitals if possible and, if it is not possible, make sure you do your due diligence and speak up if you’re uncomfortable with anything, including the doctor.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  • Some of this stuff is starting to seem backward-looking. Affirmative Action is not long for this world, anyway. The Supreme Court already put a big crack in the edifice, and the younger generations are opposed to it and indifferent to the controversies of the Civil Rights era. It’s on the way out, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

    I agree with all the posters who have risen to the defense of DPM. He was pretty clear-eyed about the politics, and his words have to be measure against the backdrop of the cultural atmosphere at the time. In that respect, he was fairly outspoken.

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein


    "Affirmative Action is not long for this world, anyway. The Supreme Court already put a big crack in the edifice, and the younger generations are opposed to it and indifferent to the controversies of the Civil Rights era. It’s on the way out, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it."
     
    I think you underestimate the willful blindness of "our" elites. I see no evidence that affirmative action is going away. They will continue to double down on it. Regardless of what the USSC says. And in another 10-20 years, after the deaths/departures of justices such as Alito and Thomas, the new justices, who all will be appointed by Democratic presidents, will overrule the recent affirmative action decision. Because of the immigration invasion coupled with birthright citizenship, the entire country will be like California politically, and all future Presidents and Congresses will be Democratic controlled. Until the whole system implodes.
  • As a rare Baby Boomer only child, I can recall my deplorable status leading to more Christmas presents being much commented upon in the 1960s: Personally, I thought being an only child was fine.
  • @Dumbo
    Feminism affecting women's wish to have children and transforming them into total bitches?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Working women marrying later because they prefer a "career" and "independence"?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Debt and inflation making young people unable to afford marriage and children?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Mass migration further reducing wages?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Modern digital media and multiculturalism causing social atomization?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Micro-plastics and chemicals in our food affecting male and female fertility?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Vaccines and other medicines reducing fertility and increasing miscarriages?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    Lack of religion making people more individualistic and less likely to want many children?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    "Gay", "Woke" and "transgender" propaganda poisoning young people's minds?
    Nah, that's a conspiracy theory.

    The lack of familiarity with large families by the current generation?
    BINGO! YES, THAT'S IT!

    :D :D :D LOL, the things people will believe.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Intelligent Dasein, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @StopEatingGlue, @SFG, @Dutch Boy

    I agree there are many contributing factors to the birth dearth, but they are all more in the way of concurring symptom than of cause. None of these things would be prohibitive if people really wanted more children, in which case they would just keep doing what nature intended and carry on. In the last analysis, the babies are not born because they are not wanted.

    On a side note, birth rates around the world are crashing much quicker than the UN or national governments predicted, which means that devastating socioeconomic problems and unnatural demographic transitions are much closer than anybody really understands. A lot of people still operate with a mental model that fears overpopulation is about to destroy us. Even most informed people who follow such things do not seem really to have taken it to heart. Nobody is ready for what’s coming.

  • @Art Deco
    Personally, I thought being an only child was fine.
    ==
    You were wrong and your wife's forgiving about the detritus of your sibling deficit.
    ==
    Every milestone in life nowadays is reached at a later age than was common 70 years ago. That's going to affect fertility. A deficit of self-confidence is one factor. A deficit of trust in others is another.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Intelligent Dasein, @LG5

    Art Deco is right.

    It was commonly understood in the past that small families decrease not only the quantity but also the quality of the stock. The ideal situation is to grow up in a large, extended family with plenty of siblings and cousins, surrounded by kinsfolk of all different ages. This way, you develop good emotional adjustment when young and you learn by osmosis all the skills you need for practical life, including the skills of managing a large family of your own someday.

    Now, I am not an HBDer, but if I was one, I would be extremely upset about this, since one of the main policies of the kind of people drawn to HBD is to increase the numbers and the confidence of the white race. Large families do both and are the only way of doing either, so Steve’s take on this is just another item in a long list of truly bizarre opinions which his stupidly loyal minions continue to overlook.

    If Covid, Ukraine, and “Deaths of Exuberance” are not enough to clue people in about who Steve Sailer really is, then maybe the idea that white only-children are great because it leads to more presents at Christmas will finally do it. If even that doesn’t work, then this place is pretty much hopeless.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @Intelligent Dasein


    The ideal situation is to grow up in a large, extended family with plenty of siblings and cousins, surrounded by kinsfolk of all different ages. This way, you develop good emotional adjustment when young and you learn by osmosis all the skills you need for practical life, including the skills of managing a large family of your own someday.
     
    You can miss out on developmental opportunities in a large family, especially the middle children. The oldest and youngest typically have more attention given to them. Happened to me and to the children in my own family but as you said the emotional adjustments and the absorption of skills and I’ll tack on, attitudes, are things that take place naturally. The only piece of parenting advice I got from my father was to try and only have four and that was so you got to enjoy more time with each of them.
    , @Chebyshev
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Art Deco is right.
     
    His first statement is incomprehensible and then he follows that up with a non sequitur.

    If Covid, Ukraine, and “Deaths of Exuberance” are not enough to clue people in about who Steve Sailer really is, then maybe the idea that white only-children are great because it leads to more presents at Christmas will finally do it.
     
    The idea there is: it's more fun to be an only child.

    I say that's true. You get more presents for Christmas and for your birthday. You get to spend a higher fraction of your time with a wide variety of friends instead of siblings. You have more quiet time to read. It's at the very least a lot less bizarre to contend that than to fail to notice that Biden and his advisers colluded with the people in charge of Ukraine to provoke the current war in that country.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • with computer nerds who lack the gene for sexual jealousy demanding “polyamory”

    There is not a gene for sexual jealousy. That is a very simplistic and erroneous conception of what genetics is about, even by modern biology’s own lights. I expect as much from HBDers, but this is truly “Lance Welton” levels of scientific illiteracy. I will be very telling of the characters of the others on this board if nobody else objects to this, so let’s wait and see what happens.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I will be very telling of the characters of the others on this board if nobody else objects to this, so let’s wait and see what happens.

     

    Who will you be telling?
  • Data scientist David Rozado presents his complete collection of Google Gemini 17th Century physicists. He thinks the one in the lower right corner might be reminiscent of a European physicist like Galileo, who looked like this. But the other 48 definitely do not. Rozado writes:
  • @Corvinus
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.”

    Would you be willing to provide an explanation?
    I would like to understand your context. Thanks.

    Replies: @Ennui, @Intelligent Dasein

    Certainly. Here is the direct link to Oswald Spengler’s The Decline of the West, Volume II, page 295, where begins the section on reformations.

    The work is magisterial and, depending on how much you want to read, would be quite informative with respect to your request.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Thanks for the link. But I was hoping for YOUR explanation, as I am somewhat familiar with Spengler's opinion on the matter.

  • I have to say, after 270-someodd comments, I think this thing is getting seriously overblown. To me, it doesn’t look like some nefarious plot to erase white people from history. It looks like a severe limitation in the software combined with a lack of foresight on the part of Google. It being the Current Year, it was inevitable that the image-generator was going to be programmed to display a diverse population whenever a human image was called for, but nobody at Google had the imagination to realize the many comical situations this would produce, nor is the program actually sophisticated enough to provide historically accurate imagery from just a short natural language prompt. In other words, it is a very limited tool being deployed by very limited people. Not much else to see here.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "To me, it doesn’t look like some nefarious plot to erase white people from history. It looks like a severe limitation in the software combined with a lack of foresight on the part of Google."

    Oh it is intentional, without a doubt. Our local hypercreative Europeans suffering fainting spells viz Gemini's hilarious images surely, surely can program their own AI to depict fantastical images of White Excellence in, say, cornerback or heavyweight prizefighter, whathaveyou. Lots of high-IQ white fellas round here: learn to code and get 'er dun!

    , @Muggles
    @Intelligent Dasein

    .


    To me, it doesn’t look like some nefarious plot to erase white people from history. It looks like a severe limitation in the software combined with a lack of foresight on the part of Google.
     
    This is either laughably naive or intentionally misleading.

    "Lack of foresight..." This is criminally hilarious.

    Do you think the top Googlers are blind to race? So "it's just a social construct" and they just plug in the "race" feature by filling that in with Blacks!? Non Whites are just more interesting?

    To date there has been a surprising Radio Silence from the Media Narrative Minders about how "racist" this AI is in fact. So by "racist" I'm meaning anti Black!. If Google's bias was randomly stupid we'd see the all White NBA squads named "Jamal" et. al. But instead, Whites are just disappeared, South African style.

    You can bet job # 1 was to eliminate reality when it made anyone look bad but Whites.

    Do you think nobody at Google Beta tested this thing?

    "Why are the American Founding Fathers all female and Black?"

    This is just the infamous "I'm Stupid" defense.

    Or maybe Google is too poor to properly Beta test their Next Big Thing.

    Maybe you should start a GoFundMe for them...

  • @Corvinus
    @Ennui

    Martin Luther was exactly what the Catholic Church to remove the rot at the time—a reformer to remove the rot.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Ennui

    Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.
     
    I'll have to respectfully take the other side on those.

    Muhammad was and is a very mysterious, nearly Godlike figure in the minds of Muslims. His roaming through the Arabian desert and other activities have been given the greatest significance imaginable in the Quran.

    Luther was just a guy in comparison. He led the transformation of Christianity, which is a big accomplishment, but it's not the same as founding an entirely new faith. There's Lutheranism, but that's a tiny segment of Christians, and they don't worship Luther the way Muslims worship Muhammad, the greatest of all prophets.

    I think it's clear that Muhammad and Luther aren't corresponding figures from different continents.

    As for Protestantism being a Western Islam, I think it's even clearer that that's false. Just picture a Protestant preacher participating in a Catholic mass. It would be very weird for him, and he wouldn't really fit in, but he could relate to the reverence everyone there would have for Jesus. It would be nothing like an imam joining in on a Zoroastrian service, where they wouldn't even say anything about Muhammad.
    , @International Jew
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That sounds about right but you can find a lot of examples because it's an effective strategy for revolutionaries to sell themselves as the purer and unadulterated version of the establishment. Before Mo there was Jesus, who wanted to sweep away the then-recent rabbinical layer of Judaism. Before Jesus there was King Josiah who (as far as anyone can tell) reinstituted an older austere monotheism.

    And of course guys like Obama go around saying they're finally making America live up to its founding principles.

    , @Corvinus
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.”

    Would you be willing to provide an explanation?
    I would like to understand your context. Thanks.

    Replies: @Ennui, @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Martin Luther was a Western Muhammad; Protestantism is a Western Islam.
     
    This is you being ignorant of Islam and the fissures within it.

    Obviously, the parallels aren't going to be exact, but if Catholicism is more like traditional orthodox Sunni Islam (with a touch of Sufism), Martin Luther (or John Calvin or Protestantism in general) is more like Salafists who espouse a modernist reform movement that seeks to "restore" what they perceive to the "pure" practices of the early, foundational period of the religion in question (who, similar to Protestants, also emphasize reading and studying of texts for all - hence the term "Taliban" means "students"; a subset of them also advocates for the union of the civil-political and the religious as in early Protestant polities).

    Again, the comparison isn't exact, but Muhammad was more like Theodosius I.
  • Will Stancil is running for Minnesota's lower house on a platform of opposing far right extremism in Minnesota's 84% white district 61A. When Will is elected President of America in 2056 over GOP incumbent Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, you will be able to say you were present at the creation (well, at least...
  • @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    If https://willstancil.com/ was poached a few weeks ago, why does it only show up as having been been archived for just the last couple of days?

    https://archive.is/https://willstancil.com/

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/https://willstancil.com/

    As usual, Will's claims are dubious.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @ScarletNumber

    If https://willstancil.com/ was poached a few weeks ago, why does it only show up as having been been archived for just the last couple of days?

    Websites are only archived at those moments when they are crawled by a bot or deliberately scanned in by a human. It doesn’t happen continuously. The timelines at the top of Wayback Machine pages are a visual representation of said.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Intelligent Dasein

    True, but I would be very surprised if no one bothered had to archive the page in the last few weeks. I still think the page has only been up for a few days rather than a few weeks.

  • Data scientist David Rozado presents his complete collection of Google Gemini 17th Century physicists. He thinks the one in the lower right corner might be reminiscent of a European physicist like Galileo, who looked like this. But the other 48 definitely do not. Rozado writes:
  • @anon
    Meh, "lower right" guy still looks Pakistani to me, whereas Galileo looks ... Scottish.

    Google has gained a monopoly on "truth" and they've decided to use their monopoly on non-normative fact discovery to engage in social engineering and inject their personal value judgements whenever given a chance. Rather than show the world how it actually is (or was) they show it as they wish it were. Of course, Wikipedia largely does the same thing, as does Disney, HBO and ad agencies.

    And so do elite universities. Universities are both a source of scholarship and learning about objective facts in, e.g., mathematics, chemistry and physics, but they're also a place for indoctrination and social engineering into elite values, normative beliefs and ideology. Their prestige in the former lends credence for the latter even when the latter is based on nothing but the feelings and preferences of its pushers. Effectively, elite universities have been turned into a Trojan horse for leftist ideology. They get away with this in part because it's not obvious to most students when what they're being taught is a fact about objective reality or when it's ideological propaganda or a value laden normative statement. Nor are they often even conscious of the distinction. Thus they're taught that two plus two makes four and, a few minutes later, about the importance of "diversity, equity and inclusion" (often even in the same class) and they file those two "facts" away just the same. They're taught that there are seven continents and that "white people are uniquely evil" and they register these two "facts" just the same. Your anthropology textbook will go from talking about the average stature of homo neanderthalensis to telling you that "ethnocentrism is harmful" as if those two "facts" are equally non-normative and equally based in objective reality. Unfortunately, students fail to see the distinction and recognize when they're being told objective facts and when they're being propagandized and socially engineered.

    It's rather like the Catholic Church in Galileo's time: On the one hand it was a center of objective scholarship and where one would go to learn about objective facts about the world, but on the other it was an institution for propaganda, and its monopoly enabled it to grow rife with corruption - leading eventually to the Protestant Reformation. The Catholic Church employed its prestige as a center of objective scholarship and learning to imbue its political and religious ideology with credibility and the patina of objective fact. The Ivies, similarly, are a sort of modern Catholic Church circa 1550 as you see manifested in a number of ways: from the selling of indulgences (daddy Kushner buys son's way into Harvard) to punishing dissidents who question the heliocentric model (or the defenestration of modern "race realists") to the pushing of leftist political ideology as if it were objective fact to the rewriting of history and diversifying of images so as to socially engineer the public's understanding of its own civilization - as is seen by Google Gemini and Google Search and Disney, HBO, Wikipedia and the ads you see.

    We're in desperate need of a Reformation of sorts in media, search engines and education, both K-12 and universities.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    We’re in desperate need of a Reformation of sorts in media, search engines and education, both K-12 and universities.

    Would you like a little powder for that Whig, Lord Cromwell? What you’re bemoaning in these institutions is precisely the fruits of the first reformation, so calling for another one does not make a great deal of sense. If you were really interested in truth, you would be calling for a Catholic Restoration, not lurching in the opposite direction based on the predictable historiography of HBD-believing ass-idiots.

    An AI is not an oracle, it is a Rube Goldberg contraption for generating fiction. People have always enjoyed reading and writing fiction, which often serves as a vehicle for fantastical beliefs. AI is not an exception is this regard; it simply reflects the intentions of its authors. A little sense of proportion will let you know where most fiction ends up. If it doesn’t have endearing human qualities and a transcendent moral point, it is simply forgotten.

  • There's a new All of Us database from the National Institutes of Health of the genomes of a quarter of a million volunteers. It was specifically created to be extra-diverse to answer complaints that previous genome databases weren't diverse enough. From Nature announcing the database: Genomic data in the All of Us Research Program The...
  • @Buzz Mohawk
    @Hypnotoad666

    The point is, of course, that anything showing a difference between races -- breeds of the collective called "humans" -- is to be avoided like a fart in polite company. That is the core of Steve's whole schtick.

    You don't have to understand the fart to smell it. Steve is just showing us the fart, like a bad kid in the back of the class.

    (You will eventually read this reply whenever Steve wakes up and walks to his closet. I am no longer on his automatic approval program, because I occasionally fart here.)

    Replies: @Old Prude, @Intelligent Dasein

    It’s okay, Buzz, there’s always a place for you here among us reality-based commenters who aren’t part of Steve Sailer’s reputational plunge protection team. You never really did fit in at that lunch table, anyway. Perhaps you’ll even feel free to speak your mind a bit more now.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    among us reality-based commenters
     
    LOL.
  • Yesterday was the 100th birthday of Lee Marvin, who made 21 assaults on Japanese-held islands as a Marine in WWII and won a Best Actor Oscar. Here's his tombstone at Arlington National Cemetery: I've seen this quite a bit in cemeteries: guys who no doubt went on to achieve a lot after The War choose...
  • @ScarletNumber
    @The Alarmist


    My first thought upon seeing the headline was, “Lee Marvin was still alive?” Then I saw the tombstone dates.
     
    LOL this was my first thought as well.

    Anyway this post got me to thinking as to who are the oldest famous people currently living. Off the top of my head here are my top 8...

    ∙ Marv Levy (98)
    ∙ Dick Van Dyke (98)
    ∙ Peter Marshall (97)
    ∙ Mel Brooks (97)
    ∙ John Astin (93)
    ∙ Willie Mays (92)
    ∙ Wink Martindale (90)
    ∙ Phil Donahue (88)

    Replies: @Barnard, @prosa123, @Brutusale, @Frau Katze, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Pixo, @Intelligent Dasein

    James Tolkan is 92.

    He was great in the Back to the Future series as well as Masters of the Universe, a very underappreciated ’80s feelgood action flick with Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella, a smoking hot Chelsea Field, not to mention a very early appearance by Courteney Cox.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I don't think James Tolken qualifies as famous, as he is more of a character actor, albeit one that is very recognizable.

    I am going to use your post to add two more names to my list: James Earl Jones (93) and Donald Sutherland (88). The funny thing about JEJ is that while he has been a primary supporting actor in many films, he has never even gotten an Academy Award nomination for any of them. He was the lead in the Great White Hope and did receive a nomination that year, losing to George C. Scott (Patton), who declined the award.

    As for Donald Sutherland, he has never even been nominated at all in his distinguished career. Animal House literally does not get made if he doesn't agree to be in it. Sadly, Sutherland turned down points in favor of a higher flat fee.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Sam Malone, @ScarletNumber

  • There's a new All of Us database from the National Institutes of Health of the genomes of a quarter of a million volunteers. It was specifically created to be extra-diverse to answer complaints that previous genome databases weren't diverse enough. From Nature announcing the database: Genomic data in the All of Us Research Program The...
  • @Hypnotoad666
    Great. A colored collage showing the relationship between "UMAP1" and "UMAP2." I feel so much more educated now. Does Steve not understand what these papers show, or is he unable to explain it in plain English? Either way, it's kind of pointless to write about scientific papers (usually behind a paywall anyway), if nobody can know what they are talking about.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @res, @SFG

    Does Steve not understand what these papers show, or is he unable to explain it in plain English?

    Steve does not understand anything about this. He has the scientific acumen of a 12-year-old girl, which is not that unusual for an HBD blogger, although it deviates quite a bit from the beliefs and expectations of his audience. Of course, 90% of the commenters here do not understand the paper either and are waiting on res to explain it to them, and Jack D to explain the explanation.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Of course Steve, and many if not most of the rest of us, know what it means, you smug, preening horse's ass.

    If there were no correlation between genetic markers and self-reported race and ethnicity, then instead of distinct islands of color on those graphs, it would instead look rather like a featureless pointillist painting, with small dots of every color uniformly distributed over that UMAP1-UMAP2 space.

    Intelligen Dasein? Perhaps your handle ought to be Blodsinnig Vergessenheit.

    , @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Steve does not understand anything about this. He has the scientific acumen of a 12-year-old girl, which is not that unusual for an HBD blogger, although it deviates quite a bit from the beliefs and expectations of his audience. Of course, 90% of the commenters here do not understand the paper either and are waiting on res to explain it to them, and Jack D to explain the explanation.
     
    As usual, you vastly overestimate your own intelligence and knowledge and grossly underestimate those of others here.

    You are a classic case of Dunning-Kruger.

    Seriously, if you thought you were actually well-informed about genetics, you'd explicate upon what Steve linked, instead of writing a juvenile self-exaltation and a silly calumny against Mr. Sailer, devoid of any useful or productive information. But you didn't, because - deep inside - you knew there'd be people here who'd make mince meat out of your shallow understanding of the subject at hand.

    Replies: @Redneck Farmer

    , @Anon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    It's a tragedy. If only these idiots could find their way to the LiveJournal of INTELLIGENT DASEIN.

  • From the New York Times news section: Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings is:
  • @deep anonymous
    @John Johnson

    I don't understand your reply. I just agreed with you that the Founders did not believe that Blacks! should have the right to keep and bear arms, and somehow you interpreted that to mean I am some kind of egalitarian/libertarian when I said nothing of the kind. (You had declared the Founders' belief in a conjectural mode, that they WOULD have, I merely concluded that they in fact DID hold non-egalitarian beliefs.)

    The reason I referred to Dred Scott was that it clearly stated the proposition, probably more than any other source of which I am aware. But the SC reached that conclusion from the text of the Constitution. And I seriously doubt the SC in 1857 would have applied the "living document" mode of interpretation that created the "right to abortion" out of thin air more than 100 years later.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jack D

    and somehow you interpreted that to mean I am some kind of egalitarian/libertarian when I said nothing of the kind.

    Please be advised that “John Johnson” is a fake account, a honeypot, and anything he says is simply in the interest of gathering information, or trying to incite you to say or do something that might incriminate yourself. John Johnson belongs to the Gretchen Whitmer Kidnappers-R-Us organizations and is not to be trusted. Do not engage with him.

    • Agree: Mike Tre, John Johnson
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Please be advised that “John Johnson” is a fake account, a honeypot, and anything he says is simply in the interest of gathering information, or trying to incite you to say or do something that might incriminate yourself. John Johnson belongs to the Gretchen Whitmer Kidnappers-R-Us organizations and is not to be trusted
     
    What is your evidence for this?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mike Tre
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Agreed. Here are a few of my observations about the person, or the group of people, who use the John Johnson handle:

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/why-do-americans-hate-putin/?showcomments#comment-5673951

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/splc-staff-attorney-charged-with-domestic-terrorism-in-antifa-assault-on-cops/#comment-5854683

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-failer-strategy-why-trump-lost-ground-with-the-white-working-class/#comment-4295589

    John Johnson was one I forgot for this list:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-closer-you-are-to-the-center-of-the-action-the-more-you-believe-in-conspiracy-theories/#comment-5061584

    And it is pretty clear that several different people use the single Corvinus "account" in order to dump as much horse manure into the frey as possible. This is an account that gets instant moderation.

  • From my new Taki's Magazine column: Read the whole thing there.
  • @Ennui
    @Corvinus

    I was mocking the conceit that Colonial Anglo-Americans bear no responsibility for the current state of affairs. The alt-right likes to blame everyone but themselves for the kind of society they live in. This idea that you can dial back the clock, repeat the Lockean Enlightenment and somehow things will sort themselves out is stupid.

    My point over and over here is that history did not begin in the 1960's or the 1860's. That the hyper-atomization, hyper-capitalization, messianic salvation universally and domestically, use of cheap labor regardless of long term social costs, plainly odd Semitophilism, obsession with contract law or legal chicanery over social cohesion, and catering to the conceits of females.

    All of these can be traced back to cultural and political tendencies in the colonies with their roots in the English Enlightenment.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Intelligent Dasein

    You are a good man and a just, Ennui. Thank you for saying this, and I hope you keep saying it no matter how thickheaded the other commenters are.

    • Thanks: Ennui
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    how thickheaded the other commenters are.
     
    How's it going at the Z-man blog?

    Are they more thinheaded about your anti-HBD position over there?
  • From the New York Times news section: Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings is:
  • @John Johnson
    The Mutant Slut Gene theory makes the most sense. Of course that isn't the real name but if someone remembers the research paper then please link it. I think it was discussed on Jordan Harbinger or one of the other popular podcasts.

    This theory suggests there is a gene set that makes women more attracted to men which of course leads to more sex and more children. Female sexuality is cyclical so it could possibly only be activated when they are ovulating. So they get "slut mode" a few days a month.

    However the theory suggests that this useful gene set in women occasionally mutates in men and not only makes them attracted to men but increases their sexual drive. So they aren't merely attracted to men with normal libido. They could be in "slut mode" all the time.

    This theory is of course offensive to both right and left. Liberals don't like talking about the promiscuity of gay men and conservatives still hold out for homosexuality being a choice.

    As with race no one can study it honestly and there are safer ways for researchers to make a living. Maybe the Asians will crack the code.

    I suspect it will also eventually come out that there are indeed "lesbian after 40" type relationships that are not based on genetics. I don't think the truth will favor either side.

    Replies: @Unintended Consequence, @Intelligent Dasein

    conservatives still hold out for homosexuality being a choice.

    Conservatives and Christians have never said that homosexual inclination is a choice. We say that homosexual activity is a choice, which it is.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Conservatives and Christians have never said that homosexual inclination is a choice. We say that homosexual activity is a choice, which it is.

    That's the modern PR position of a lot of churches. Not all of them as seen by the fact that conversion programs still exist. So do therapy programs for cases where a gay man married a woman. Evangelical churches won't immediately suggest divorce. They will try to convert the husband first which means they are supported fraud. The gays that intentionally marry these women for a cover know full well as to what they are doing. It absolutely destroys the women. These couples are easy to detect in therapy. They only need to ask the woman how often the man suggests sex.

    I also don't believe for one second that most Christians truly hold the PR view.

    Leadership in some areas may promote that view but the average Christian would not accept a celibate gay. The average Christian views homosexuality as a deviancy and one much worse than drug use or adultery.

    Christians today do not accept gay children. They may consider certain theories in others but not their own children. It should be clear that children should not be considered sexualized but these differences can show up at early ages.

    Even at ages 5-8 these parents will notice differences and try compensating. They still believe that making Johnny watch football at 7 instead of letting him play house with the girls will change things. They will not only try to change the kids but the parents often develop their own psychological problems as they blame themselves and each other. The marriage becomes stressed as they feel judged by other couples for having the boy that wants to paint his nails or play with dolls. They are definitely not accepting the kids and these kids absorb the message. They could have another boy that is perfectly normal and they will still blame themselves or develop some theory on how the mother in law let him watch too much female TV or something. In fact the gay conversion programs try to develop those theories as if some moment in a 5 year old made him gay. Sadly a family can have 3-4 kids and the Christian parents will still bicker about how one became gay. It doesn't matter if another boy they have is not only straight but not even close. They still fret over the gay kid. Christians get divorced over this.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Jack D
    @Intelligent Dasein


    We say that homosexual activity is a choice, which it is.
     
    By the same token, heterosexual activity is a choice, but except for those with a (Catholic) religious calling we don't expect people with a heterosexual inclination to remain celibate.

    And even in the case of people who have taken religious vows of celibacy, reality often falls short. One of the things that led to the problems with child abuse in the Catholic Church is that religiously inclined gay men were encouraged to become priests as a way of repressing their gay urges.

    Humans have strong sexual drives and expecting humans of any inclination to completely repress them is a big ask. Perhaps if Christians were like Shakers, where everyone was expected to be celibate it would be a less big ask, but to ask this of only homosexuals while permitting heterosexuals to have a sex life (within the framework of marriage) is an even bigger ask. Perhaps too big of an ask. "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak."

    Replies: @Twinkie

  • @Mr. Anon
    @mikeInThe716

    I thought that cops shooting out of a moving car was just something that happened in TV shows, not in real life.

    How does that work? How do you ensure you don't hit bystanders? What if you cause the car you're pursuing to lose control and it wipes out into a bus-stop full of people?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    How does that work? How do you ensure you don’t hit bystanders? What if you cause the car you’re pursuing to lose control and it wipes out into a bus-stop full of people?

    The cops these days have just as little concern for collateral damage as the criminals do. They’re “doing their job,” and will be protected by the unions and the courts.

  • @AnotherDad
    @Almost Missouri

    Almost, you are using only same-sex/opposite sex and age as your only parsing mechanism.

    This strikes me as particularly non-traditional and wrong. Nature doesn't just specify a correct coupling--male and female--nature also provides us with two separate sexes--male and female.

    Most obviously with your last category:
    4) Adult abuse of opposite-sex adolescent minor: contrary to social custom.

    A male adult, who grooms and bangs say a 16 year old girl is doing real damage--even without pregnancy or disease. He has probably convinced her that he loves her and maybe will take care of her and they'll be together--which is simply not going to happen. He is essentially engaged in fraud, and in the process is quite likely damaging or destroying her ability to trust men, perhaps even her ability to have a decent relationship with a man, bond properly sexually with him and be a good (and stable) wife and mother.

    In contrast, while feminism has insisted they be treated the same, the female teacher that starts sexting the 16 year old boy who is hot for her, eventually leading to the "invitation over" and him banging her ... does pretty much nothing, other than perhaps hurting his hand with the high fives from his buds. It affects almost nothing--though perhaps disabusing him of any un-realistic notions he may have had about female behavior/chastity.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Almost Missouri, @nebulafox, @Stan Adams, @Intelligent Dasein

    In contrast, while feminism has insisted they be treated the same, the female teacher that starts sexting the 16 year old boy who is hot for her, eventually leading to the “invitation over” and him banging her … does pretty much nothing,

    You are a disgusting, despicable old pervert—you and Reg Caesar and all the other eldering faggots on this site who obsess about this topic.

    Young men have feelings, too. If you do not think it is possible for an older woman to manipulate and severely wound a young man and break his heart, you know nothing about the human condition. This is not even to mention the possibility of pressing him into early fatherhood or inciting him to commit murder or other crimes of passion. It is also not to mention the feelings of the husbands and children these women betray with their young lovers.

    You are a simp, a pervert, and a fool. Begone with you, and take your minoritarian monotony with you.

  • @Intelligent Dasein
    @res


    See 0:34 of the video here.
     
    0:34 of that video there shows a black news lady talking into the camera in the studio. I'm not sure if that's what you meant to refer to. I watched the part of the video that actually shows the tackling of the suspect, but I can't make out any details other than the fact that the suspect is not wearing a red sweatsuit.

    The red sweatsuit guy definitely seems to be one of the three persons of interest, though.

    Replies: @res

    Sorry. I should have specified the second video at that link. The one in portrait mode which appears shot from a smartphone.

    Thanks for following up. Here is the link again.
    https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-man-helped-tackle-shooter-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-parade/46791250

    The person in that video appears to be wearing a light colored hoodie and is lying on the ground surrounded by police. 0:34 is a pretty good look at him.

    From just above that video.

    A Bellevue man helped tackle one of the alleged shooters and police have three people in custody.

    • Thanks: Intelligent Dasein
  • @res
    See 0:34 of the video here.
    https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-man-helped-tackle-shooter-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-parade/46791250

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @SMK

    See 0:34 of the video here.

    0:34 of that video there shows a black news lady talking into the camera in the studio. I’m not sure if that’s what you meant to refer to. I watched the part of the video that actually shows the tackling of the suspect, but I can’t make out any details other than the fact that the suspect is not wearing a red sweatsuit.

    The red sweatsuit guy definitely seems to be one of the three persons of interest, though.

    • Replies: @res
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Sorry. I should have specified the second video at that link. The one in portrait mode which appears shot from a smartphone.

    Thanks for following up. Here is the link again.
    https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-man-helped-tackle-shooter-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-parade/46791250

    The person in that video appears to be wearing a light colored hoodie and is lying on the ground surrounded by police. 0:34 is a pretty good look at him.

    From just above that video.


    A Bellevue man helped tackle one of the alleged shooters and police have three people in custody.
     
  • From my new Taki's Magazine column: Read the whole thing there.
  • Conversely, Time magazine argued in 1971 that El Paso’s low crime rate was due to lithium in the groundwater sedating manic-depressives. Has that idea been vindicated or debunked over the past 53 years?

    Anybody who would entertain this theory for even one millisecond is not someone whose opinions on any subject are worth the toilet paper it would take to wipe them out of the dog’s jowls.

  • Republicans have been (very) slowly catching on that Democrats benefit in the long run electorally from mass immigration. In turn, Democrats are shocked, shocked to be hit with the infinitely racist accusation that they have self-interested reasons for backing immigration. Who ever heard of such a thing? From Aaron Sorkin's The West Wing in the...
  • @New Dealer
    @MEH 0910

    Cool, I liked part 1 and will see part 2 when it is free.

    Reservations. Having had high school biology I agonizingly search for explanations of why the Fremen are mostly kind of middle eastern but 13% black and zero % NE Asian, etc.

    Also, Paul looks and acts like a kid on a middle school basketball team. Void of the charisma required for plot trajectory.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @jb, @Inquiring Mind

    Also, Paul looks and acts like a kid on a middle school basketball team. Void of the charisma required for plot trajectory.

    And the strange thing is, at the age of 28, Timothée Chalamet is almost twice the age of Paul Atreides and still doesn’t convey any of the gravitas.

    My problem with the new Dune was that many scenes were highly, highly reminiscent of the David Lynch version, and those that weren’t you could tell were self-consciously trying not to be, which only resulted in an inferior product. It made you realize what a fantastic job Lynch did in the first go-round. Kyle MacLachlan really was an excellent choice to play Paul. I have a hard time thinking of anyone else who could do it.

    Villeneuve criminally underused Stellan Skarsgård in the role of the Baron. A great actor, but they didn’t have him do anything. They might as well have used the caterer.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    highly reminiscent of the David Lynch version
     
    Unlike many people, I liked the David Lynch version. I wish, though, he hadn't distorted the space travel aspect (the Guild Navigators don't fold space, they just predict where the ships can go safely ahead) and come up with the stupid "weirding module" (weirding way is simply the maximal development of the human - psychologically and biologically - combined with the most efficient fighting techniques (it's like super-MMA athlete development).

    But the cast is absolutely stellar in Lynch's version: Kyle MachLachlan, Francessca Annis (I cannot see anyone else as Jessica), Jürgen Prochnow, Everett McGill, Alica Witt, Max von Sydow, Dean Stockwell, Sian Phillips, Linda Hunt, Brad Dourif, Kenneth MacMillan, I mean it just keeps going. I think Sting was the only misfire in the casting.

    Thanks in large part to the acting, the Lynch version is operatic whereas as the new version, as slick with CGI it is, comes off like a moneyed-up SciFi channel version (though the SciFI channel version of the Dune Messiah and Children of Dune was pretty good, thanks to James McAvoy and Alice Krige though Susan Sarandon almost ruined it).

    https://youtu.be/xUWSAYKE_v0?si=HoOW7I2JirFMGYAZ

    https://youtu.be/0ujoXRAZU3g?si=40qSzWrE6f66MaZo

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • @Pixo
    @vinteuil

    Or perhaps Steve approves of a bit of illiberal deep-state Putinist-crushing, but being a gentlemanly classical liberal keeps those baser sentiments to himself.

    Have you watched the drone videos from last week that show Ukraine sinking yet another Black Sea Fleet capital ship that was supporting Putin’s anti-white war of aggression?

    Just masterful, the first two drones disable the left and right rudders, the third blows a hole in its side, the fourth flies into it and causes the missiles aimed at the heroic defenders of Ukraine to detonate and sink the ship.

    The AA fire splashing impotently into the water as the drones approach is a great touch. Slava Ukraine!

    https://youtu.be/wAx3F8vdeU8

    Replies: @Catdompanj, @vinteuil, @JohnnyWalker123

    Just masterful

    I have no words left to express how low you have fallen in my esteem, you blood-thirsty creep.

    • Agree: Intelligent Dasein
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @vinteuil

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
    That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has washed out their foul footstep’s pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave,
    From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave


    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1754782237143269464

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  • Republicans have been (very) slowly catching on that Democrats benefit in the long run electorally from mass immigration. In turn, Democrats are shocked, shocked to be hit with the infinitely racist accusation that they have self-interested reasons for backing immigration. Who ever heard of such a thing? From Aaron Sorkin's The West Wing in the...
  • @AnotherDad
    @Wilkey


    We are now literally taking in as many or almost as many immigrants, legal and illegal, as Americans are having children each year. I doubt a single Republican elected official has given any consideration to the demographic consequences of such immigration rates.
     
    That factoid is chilling--and nation killing. But most people don't even understand what it means.

    The reality, most people just aren't mathematical thinkers--beyond sort of the basic "80,000/year is more than 60,000/year" thinking. And even less ideas which involve rates, growth and what that means for the future. And our verbalist ruling class--with exceptions like Chuck Schummer--are really just "most people" in these matters. (From experience I can tell you that even most STEM people are pretty mediocre at applying simply math to affairs--personal and political--outside of their STEM tunnel.)

    And--the fundamental problem--the reigning minoritarian ideology specifically instructs people to not to think about any of these issues, and denounced and heavily chastises those who do. So math-capable level-headed have failed to bring sanity about immigration/demographics to the normies.


    Demographics and society really isn't very complicated. There are essentially two ways to keep a nation functioning, full of "people like us whom we want to be around":

    1) The historic.
    -- The nation beats off invaders/replacement.
    -- The higher fertility and survival of the "fit" and productive means the quality of people in the nation improves.

    2) Post-demographic transition.
    -- Put in place eugenic policies to encourage your productive to keep breeding and clamp down on fertility of the unfit--losers, criminals, incompetent.
    -- Absolutely police your border/immigration as in your low fertility state you can not afford any continuous inflow or you are replaced.

    That's it. That's math.

    The early 20th century WASP progressives lived in a free society where they could still "do math" in such matters and they realized--and propagandized to great effect--that #2 is required to maintain a nation/civilization that's gone through the demographic transition.

    This basic-math, common-sense understanding was cast aside with the rise-of-the-Jews and minoritarianism and now, of course, all these early 20th century genetics and math aware WASPy progressives are "racists!" and "Nazis!" and being denounced and unpersoned.


    But the facts and math do not change.

    If you want to have a stable--population neither exploding nor collapsing--civilized nation then you need to do #2. Closed borders, eugenic policies. That's math.











    The immigrants coming in a overwhelming breeding age people.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Intelligent Dasein

    We are now literally taking in as many or almost as many immigrants, legal and illegal, as Americans are having children each year. I doubt a single Republican elected official has given any consideration to the demographic consequences of such immigration rates.

    That factoid is chilling–and nation killing. But most people don’t even understand what it means.

    The reality, most people just aren’t mathematical thinkers–beyond sort of the basic “80,000/year is more than 60,000/year” thinking. And even less ideas which involve rates, growth and what that means for the future. And our verbalist ruling class–with exceptions like Chuck Schummer–are really just “most people” in these matters.

    On the contrary, AnotherDad, I think it’s exactly the opposite way around. In the bowels of the deeps of the Deep State, there are plenty of quants working for government agencies—economists and demographers and the like—who have a very precise, analytical, mathematical, and actuarial sense of exactly what it all means. I wrote about this 7 years ago here and again more recently here. I call it the Export-Land Model of imigration, which is akin to the Export-Land Model of petroleum extracting countries.

    The immigrant-sending counties treat their emigrating population very much like a natural resource they are exporting. In return for this, they get a steady supply of cash in the form of remittances, foreign aid, and NGO assistance. This relieves some of the pressure on their own domestic social services, and their ruling elites use the cash to maintain themselves in power. On the other side of the ledger, the USA is willing to overpay for these immigrants in order to keep its own population numbers up. The quants know that our 50 years of sub-replacement would by now have resulted in very skewed dependency ratio and an extremely tight labor market which would have made the imperial business-as-usual (i.e. borrowing abroad to fund the empire) absolutely impossible. The immigrants keep the wheels turning so that the circus can continue.

    But there is a natural limit to this. In the Export-Land Model of petroleum exporting, an oil exporting country continues to experience rising domestic demand even as its production peaks, such that a point is reached when exports fall off much faster than production does. The same thing will happen with immigration. The sending countries will start to revalue their population because they are losing too many of their own young workers and breeders and their own dependency ratios are going to skew out of control. At the same time, the USA’s influence is waning and we are not as able to “overpay” for immigrants anymore. When the value of remittances no longer exceeds the value added by domestic labor, it seizes up the immigrant pipeline.

    This will happen soon. The Biden border fiasco is the last immigrant wave we will ever see. After that, welcome to the joyful world of beggar-thy-neighbor protectionism.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    This will happen soon. The Biden border fiasco is the last immigrant wave we will ever see. After that, welcome to the joyful world of beggar-thy-neighbor protectionism.
     
    How soon is that "soon"?

    Although Japanese immigration is all but ceased, Korean immigration has declined dramatically, and Chinese immigration will likely follow in the near future, India still remains a basket case and will remain so for the foreseeable future. At the same time, there is a lot of Flynn Effect going on in places like India. What's to say that Indonesia (pop. 270 million) isn't next?

    Emigration typically works as a J-curve, that is, as an economy develops, more (not fewer) people are capable of emigrating, because they now have more portable and developed skills - emigration only stops declining when the quality of life back home reaches near-parity with the destination countries (e.g. Japan, South Korea, and first tier cities in China). We are not even remotely close to that with places like India.

    I know you fancy Indian women, so you might see this as a win, but we have had absolutely massive increase in Indian immigration in the last two decades. Our physician and IT work force (and soon academia too) are absolutely inundated with Indians and they will almost completely dominate those fields in the next decade or so.
    , @Wilkey
    @Intelligent Dasein


    The Biden border fiasco is the last immigrant wave we will ever see.
     
    Only if voters suddenly come to their senses and decide to close the spigot. There are plenty of people who would love to come here. So long as we are better than other countries, there always will be. When people stop wanting to come…it is only because we have sunk to their level. We have a very long way to fall before people stop wanting to come.
    , @Anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Sorry, but your thesis simply just cannot be true:

    The Indian subcontinent and Subsaharan Africa, two name but two regions of the world, can easily, and most probably will, pack off hundreds of millions of immigrants to the Economist whipped western world.
    The most pertinent fact here, despite the stupidity of the west, which is a given, is that the Indian subcontinent and black Africa would still be massively overpopulated despite dispatching hundreds of millions to the west, will still have extreme emigration pressure, and will make up the deficit in very short order.

  • @International Jew
    @anonymous

    America's demographic transformation is manifestly not good for the Jews.

    The one country we really do control — Israel — is keenly sensitive to demography (and not at all shy about discussing it). Meanwhile the Christian west, including countries like Sweden, Ireland and Spain with trivially small and uninfluential Jewish populations, is in full lemming mode.

    So don't blame us, blame yourselves.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Almost Missouri, @Intelligent Dasein, @Harry Baldwin, @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality, @YetAnotherAnon, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre

    Meanwhile the Christian west,

    The post-Christian West.

    The Christian “West,” i.e. Christendom, is dead and gone, although Christianity is not.

    No Christian can continue to identify with the decomposing blob that is the end state of Western civilization, and it’s time they understood that. Christianity has survived the collapse of empires before, and it will again.

    • Thanks: Hail
  • I estimate that the New York Times has published 254 articles over the years mentioning "black quarterback" or "black quarterbacks" (although few would be off-topic references to, say, "Joe Black, quarterback") In contrast, the New York Times has only mentioned the lack of white starting cornerbacks in the NFL twice in recent decades. From 1998:...
  • @Mike Tre
    "The disappearance of the white cornerback has more to do with shrunken aspirations, a lack of confidence and a reluctance to compete. "

    It's racial bias, plain and simple.

    "What Rhoden presumably means is “Cornerback at the N.F.L. level is the most physically challenging position in sports.”

    Not even close. (marathons, ironmans, swimming, playing the front line in hockey, etc etc) Not even in football. Cornerbacks have no assigned responsibility on running plays. That's 50% of the time. They don't have a gap and they aren't responsible for outside contain. Sure if the ball carrier comes their way they are expected to make a tackle, but if they're on the other side of the field it's basically a play off. Playing center is more physically challenging than cornerback. But once again, "running fast" is the sole measure for what's considered physically challenging.

    "Like fighter pilots, cornerbacks must possess an unusual blend of physical strength and emotional toughness, the ability to think and act quickly under pressure. "

    Where are all the negro fighter pilots again? Silly comparison.

    "I’d suggest the ability to “react quickly under pressure” would be more accurate. Cornerbacks don’t get a lot of time to think."

    and can someone please provide an alternative example where as a group, negroes exhibit an ability to "react quickly under pressure" better than whites? Because it's not in any kind of combat. Until someone can, racial bias is the only explanation for a lack of whites at CB.

    "At some point, white players stopped believing they could fly. "
     
    "And why was that? Did it turn out that blacks, say, tended to be faster, better jumpers, better at running backwards, and so forth? And why were they better? Was it their genes?"

    None of the above. White kids have been getting told they are inferior athletes to negroes since they were kids. Dumb high school coaches promote this fallacy as well. the psychological results are clear: you tell the kid his whole life he can't do something, and he believes it.

    "Like the success of black fighter pilots, the presence of 64 African-American starting cornerbacks in the N.F.L. is an American triumph of meritocracy over protectionism. "

    The Tuskegee airmen did nothing that would fall under the definition of what this author calls successful. 64 negroes starting at cornerback is exactly the triumph of protectionism...for negroes.

    for anyone interested, Paul Kersey dissected this article back in 2011:

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/red-tails-rising-tuskegee-airmen-and/

    Red Tails Rising: Tuskegee Airmen and White Cornerbacks? How Does the New York Times William Rhoden Have a Job?

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous, @Intelligent Dasein

    This is correct.

    Similarly, there was a point I was trying to make last time the conversation turned to sprinting. There are those who think that the fact that 79 out of the last 80 Olympic 100M gold medalists (or whatever it was) are black, somehow collimates into a strong argument for HBD.

    I, in turn, ask the question: HBD in respect of what, exactly? Because it cannot come down to any important differences between giant racial aggregates like ‘white’ and ‘black’.

    Once you plane off the top 80 sprinters in the world and look at the next tier, you will find that there are thousands upon thousands of white sprinters in the world who have never won an Olympic medal but are only a fraction of a second slower than the winners, and also that these thousands of white guys are faster than 99.99% of all the blacks who have ever lived.

    So, is sprinting a race trait? No. The very fastest sprinters come from some collection of people who also happen to be black, but that ability does not extend to the majority of blacks, and it very quickly spreads to include whites and other races, too.

    Now, let’s say we took some of those fast whites and trained them to be NFL cornerbacks. Does anyone really think that their fraction-of-a-second slower maximum speed could not be made up for by other qualities in a position that requires a lot of other all-around athleticism and play-reading ability?

    Of course, it could. And this means that there is a vast, untapped pool of white cornerback talent that the NFL refuses to make use of, and I’m sure a lot of these guys would be willing to play for a lot less money, too. Steve does not even think about this, despite apparently priding himself on being the Moneyball noticer of race world.

    But we have to go deeper to understand what is motivating all of this. Evidently the NFL does not feel like it is necessary to drive a hard bargain. It does not try to scoop up the best talent for the least amount of money, as it would if the players were actually selling their skills to their employer in a free labor market. Instead, it extracts rents from fans, advertisers, and taxpayers and it uses the proceeds to reward the people it favors. It’s a palace economy, not a market. The player positions are sinecures. Except in a few critical positions like quarterback, where the lack of talent would be too obvious and too fatal, the spots go to the people whom the bosses prefer.

    You do not need to be the “best of the best” to play in the NFL. You need to meet a certain minimum (albeit high) level of athletic ability, and be a favored demographic, and be willing to toe the line on the NFL’s political positions, and this is easier done with a high percentage of black players. This is why players are paid “above market” rates—they are being rewarded for their compliance. And if you find that political appointees are particularly overrepresented in a certain position (like cornerback), that is prima facie evidence that that position is among the least important on the team.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Does anyone really think that their fraction-of-a-second slower maximum speed could not be made up for by other qualities in a position that requires a lot of other all-around athleticism and play-reading ability?"

    NFL general managers and head coaches really think that.

    Did you ever hear the old business saying, "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM"? The idea was that if you buy an NCR or Control Data mainframe and something goes wrong, you will look very, very bad. But if you buy an IBM mainframe and the same bad thing happens, well, that's a problem with computers in general, not with your decision.

    Similarly, nobody gets fired for playing a black cornerback. But play a white cornerback who then gets burned for a couple of long touchdowns by a faster black wide receiver, and sports talk radio on Monday will be devoted to calls for your firing.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Mike Tre, @njguy73

  • From the Financial Times: Everything I, an Italian, thought I knew about Italian food is wrong From panettone to tiramisu, many ‘classics’ are in fact recent inventions, as Alberto Grandi has shown Marianna Giusti MARCH 22 2023 Parma is quiet at night. The man sitting opposite me is paranoid someone will overhear our conversation. “They...
  • @Mr. Anon
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Absolute garbage. It is a well-known fact that cheese has been eaten since before recorded history throughout the Middle East, Egypt, the Levant, and North Africa, as well as in Europe.
     
    How do we know what was done "before recorded history"?

    Fine, I forgot the middle east. So they had their cheeses too. Good for them. That is part of their culinary tradition, and they didn't imagine that either.


    I don’t know why you would say something like that, which is so widely known to be false.
     
    In my case, it was an oversight - a mistake. Why do you say all the false things that you say?

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    In my case, it was an oversight – a mistake. Why do you say all the false things that you say?

    I don’t say “false” things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing.

    In this case, however, your oversight reveals a massive depth of cultural ignorance that is just inexcusable. Even if you have never watched a documentary on the history of cheesemaking, or been curious enough to just google it, you still must have missed the fact that cheese is mentioned in the Old Testament, in the Iliad and Odyssey, and in written texts going all the way back to ancient Sumer. The physical evidence for cheese making predates the written evidence, hence “before recorded history.”

    This bottomless cultural ignorance is a common trait of HBD types. Their lack of sophistication is part of the reason why they end up believing a theory so ridiculous. Steve Sailer is actually taken by many to be a science blogger, and considers himself entitled to pontificate on the finer points of genetic analysis, yet he does not even know what the commutative property is or how to calculate the period of a pendulum.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I'm innumerate and I know what the commutative property is, so Steve, who studied economics at Harvard, must have at least known it once. It sounds less like you're finding ignorance and more like you're not forgiving understandable one-off mistakes.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I don’t say “false” things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing.
     
    Ah, I see that you are an insufferable smug douchebag. I won't waste any further time reading your tripe.

    Replies: @res

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @Intelligent Dasein


    I don’t say “false” things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing.
     
    "And you can believe me, because I never lie, and I'm always right."

    -- George Leroy Tirebiter; paid for by Tirebiter for Political Solutions Committee, Sector R
    , @HA
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "I don’t say 'false' things. I sometimes say things that people vehemently disagree with and/or misunderstand, and sometimes I am not quite as clear as could be, but that’s not the same thing."

    Just to put that in perspective, here's how one of Intelligent Dasein's recent forecasts went:


    We may see, before the end of 2023, Germany simply “surrender” to Russia and become Eurasian partner country, while the rest of the West flounders around in an increasingly delusional post-imperial death spiral.
     
    Oh, sure, he only said it "may" happen, as in "monkeys may fly out of my backside and force Germany to surrender to Russia", but again, you tell me how well that one went down or whether he was not quite as clear as could be.

    Here he is back on Sep 7:


    Well, perhaps it wasn’t a real country back then. I’m no expert on Ukrainian history. But it is now. In 72 hours, it won't be...bad stuff's about to go down.
     
    And note, that wasn't last September 7th -- it was actually the one a year before that. We can argue about how well Ukraine is doing, but for better or worse, it was pretty much the same country in September as it was in August.

    As I recall, Intelligent Dasein also claims to be a traditional Catholic, or at least he once did, despite his apologias for Nietzsche and the stuff about how:


    I think the main factor (and this would account for the evil affecting traditional patriarchal as well as Westernized societies) is that too many people are surviving to old age.
     
    Yeah, watch out for those "traditional patriarchial societies" -- we all know traditional Catholics are very much opposed to any of that. I mean, in the Bible, God is quoted as saying "I will still be carrying you when you are old. Your hair will turn gray, and I will still carry you", but ID knows better than God about what needs to be done with old people. THAT's how much of a Catholic Traditionalist he is -- he's not just more Catholic than the Pope; he's more Catholic than God himself. And when it comes to not being quite as clear about that as he should be, don't get him started on how "the meta of a meta is a solipsism…"

    You are analyzing a hyperreality, a copy of a copy with no original…the Western powers, are thinking about this whole affair as an information war, and an information war is already itself a metalogical take on a real situation… But when you start talking about how the CIA is performing in the information war, as if that were a substantial reality in its own right, then you’ve taken a metalogical take on metalogical construct, and the meta of a meta is a solipsism… The simulacrum of an information war that you are analyzing exists literally only in your imagination…
     
    If you ask me, a lot of things literally only exist in ID's imagination.
  • @Charlotte Allen
    @Jack D

    I find all this anti-"seed oil" stuff confusing and irritating. I think that what people really mean by "seed oil" is "cheap seed oil." I can't believe that sesame oil, which people have been eating in tahini for hundreds of years, is bad for you. Fortunately, I grew up with a snob mother (and fabulous cook) who wouldn't touch Wesson or Mazzola with a ten-foot pole--and I won't, either. My mother's choice was peanut oil--and I agree. Peanut oil is delicious and fairly reasonably priced compared to, say, grapeseed. I don't even know what "canola oil" is. What's a "canola"?

    I also cook a lot (as did my mother) with "puro" olive oil. Why has puro gone out of style in favor of extra-virgin, which is great for salad and bread-dipping but too strong for ordinary cooking? You can't even find big bottles of puro anymore at supermarkets. So I have to constantly buy little bottles, which are hard to find and also, per ounce, more expensive.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jack D

    I find all this anti-“seed oil” stuff confusing and irritating.

    You are correct, Charlotte. For some reason, many of the internet ass-lords of the vitalist Alt-Right have taken to condemning “seed oils” for interfering with their precious bodily fluids. The whole thing is stupid in the extreme. For one thing, they are broadly condemning almost every edible oil that exists. Do you know of any other type of oil that is not a “seed oil”? Basically all that remains after you have removed oil seeds is animal fat and avocado, olive, and coconut oils, which are oily fruits. That isn’t enough oil to cover every application. The incorporation of inexpensive seed oils into the food stream has been a great boon to mankind.

    My mother’s choice was peanut oil–and I agree.

    Absolutely. Peanut oil is my preferred choice for frying at home. Especially in stir-fries, it adds a velvety texture to the finished dish that you just don’t get from other oils.

    I don’t even know what “canola oil” is. What’s a “canola”?

    The word canola is a contraction of Canadian Oil, Low Acid. It is produced from rapeseed, a plant similar to mustards and cabbages. The cultivars used for the food-grade oil production have been bred to have low levels of erucic acid, which formerly limited this oil’s use as a food product.

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
    @Intelligent Dasein

    "Canola oil"! It's the "La Brea Tar Pits" of food. Pedants, get busy.