RSSnot true - it started with the democrats/media inventing allegations of Russian hacking that could then be used to get state security to bug a presidential candidate for oppo research and which found nothing -
This is the basis for the Mueller investigation which started, as you may remember, with intercepts by US intelligence agencies of campaign members’ phone calls and other electronic sources.
You’re daft! The government obtained a FISA warrent on Manafort and had him wiretapped. This alone was sufficient to spark the Mueller investigation but there were other actions by other players that intelligence services, both US and foreign, became aware of. Your explanation of how the Mueller investigation came about makes no sense whatsoever. None. Nada. Zip. Bupkis. Nyet.
And I’ll point out that the Mueller investigation isn’t over yet so we don’t know the extent of what it has found, thus it can’t be described as “a pack of lies”.
Really, where do you get your information? You really need to find more sane, reliable sources!
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And yet…and yet… there is evidence that the Trump campaign was in contact with various Russians all during the campaign.
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defn of Corvinus
The Latin name Corvinus derives from the Latin word corvus meaning raven, although the word today refers to the birds' genus including ravens and crows among others.
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No, sorry old sod, but I’m not at all who you think I might be or who once was someone else.
Of course not, Corvy.
No, sorry old sod...
Oh? And what evidence would that be? The CrowdStrike report? The Steele dossier? James Comey's say-so? Or perhaps that of some other DNC contractor or Obama administration flunkee? Do come back and enlighten us when they find some real evidence--i.e., something that might actually stand an outside chance of winning a conviction in court.
And yet…and yet… there is evidence that the Trump campaign was in contact with various Russians all during the campaign.
Well that isn't too hard to find, is it! No need to go to the black market for that.
And they too were looking for “dirt” -on Clinton.
Opposition research is not a crime. Nor is talking about US politics with foreign nationals; if it were, I'd be guilty of treason on a weekly basis, since I now live in Europe.
The question now is: to what extent was the Trump campaign conspiring with Russia to subvert our election process? If they were involved in such a conspiracy, then the Trump organization has violated Federal laws and should be held to account, each and every one who so conspired.
This is hilarious! I can remember using almost exactly those same words with Hillbots every time one of her corrupt schemes came to light. For example, isn't interceding with the Attorney General on your wife's behalf to head off an investigation in to her before an election a crime known as 'obstruction of justice'? Riddle me that, Batman.Replies: @Dr. Crow, @Dr. Crow
Although you may not like the source of the information nor its underlying purposes, if it exposes criminal actions by anyone than it served a good cause.
As for your “obstruction of justice” comment, I assume you’re referring to a meeting between Bill Clinton and Attorney General Lynch during the campaign. However, you don’t know what happened at that meeting any more than I do. It would take another investigation into it to know the details. At any event, that investigation didn’t happen and there is nothing to show that anything untoward was said or done as a result of it. That’s the fact of the matter. Or do you wish to assert that the FBI is in cahoots with the Clintons too? Like Jim Comey has a big crush on Hillary or something equally as plausible?
But riddle me this, Riddler: Why has every one of Trump’s campaign people, when asked of meetings with Russians, initially denied that any took place? Not some of the people, or even most of the people involved, but 100% of the people involved? Including the present Attorney General Mr. Sessions, who has “mis-rembered” those meeting 3 times before the US Congress.
Riddle me that, Riddler.
Oh? And what evidence would that be? The CrowdStrike report? The Steele dossier? James Comey's say-so? Or perhaps that of some other DNC contractor or Obama administration flunkee? Do come back and enlighten us when they find some real evidence--i.e., something that might actually stand an outside chance of winning a conviction in court.
And yet…and yet… there is evidence that the Trump campaign was in contact with various Russians all during the campaign.
Well that isn't too hard to find, is it! No need to go to the black market for that.
And they too were looking for “dirt” -on Clinton.
Opposition research is not a crime. Nor is talking about US politics with foreign nationals; if it were, I'd be guilty of treason on a weekly basis, since I now live in Europe.
The question now is: to what extent was the Trump campaign conspiring with Russia to subvert our election process? If they were involved in such a conspiracy, then the Trump organization has violated Federal laws and should be held to account, each and every one who so conspired.
This is hilarious! I can remember using almost exactly those same words with Hillbots every time one of her corrupt schemes came to light. For example, isn't interceding with the Attorney General on your wife's behalf to head off an investigation in to her before an election a crime known as 'obstruction of justice'? Riddle me that, Batman.Replies: @Dr. Crow, @Dr. Crow
Although you may not like the source of the information nor its underlying purposes, if it exposes criminal actions by anyone than it served a good cause.
Actually, now many of the campaign’s people have admitted to having met with Russians during the campaign: Flynn, Don Jr., Sessions, Manafort, et. al. Need I go on? Meeting with them isn’t a crime but what they discussed might well be: “Conspiring to de-fraud the US election”. This is what they would be charged with, at the very least. It is a Federal crime. And no, oppo research isn’t a crime but conspiring with a foreign entity to influence a US election is.
This is the basis for the Mueller investigation which started, as you may remember, with intercepts by US intelligence agencies of campaign members’ phone calls and other electronic sources.
You may not like the Clintons, that’s fairly obvious by your post and you don’t have to live with the results of this election as you live in Europe now, far from the madding crowd here in the US. But I myself look forward to the results of Mr. Mueller’s investigation into the rather dicey Trump folks’ contacts with Russians all through their campaign.
not true - it started with the democrats/media inventing allegations of Russian hacking that could then be used to get state security to bug a presidential candidate for oppo research and which found nothing -
This is the basis for the Mueller investigation which started, as you may remember, with intercepts by US intelligence agencies of campaign members’ phone calls and other electronic sources.
And yet…and yet… there is evidence that the Trump campaign was in contact with various Russians all during the campaign. And they too were looking for “dirt” -on Clinton. The question now is: to what extent was the Trump campaign conspiring with Russia to subvert our election process? If they were involved in such a conspiracy, then the Trump organization has violated Federal laws and should be held to account, each and every one who so conspired.
Although you may not like the source of the information nor its underlying purposes, if it exposes criminal actions by anyone than it served a good cause.
Oh? And what evidence would that be? The CrowdStrike report? The Steele dossier? James Comey's say-so? Or perhaps that of some other DNC contractor or Obama administration flunkee? Do come back and enlighten us when they find some real evidence--i.e., something that might actually stand an outside chance of winning a conviction in court.
And yet…and yet… there is evidence that the Trump campaign was in contact with various Russians all during the campaign.
Well that isn't too hard to find, is it! No need to go to the black market for that.
And they too were looking for “dirt” -on Clinton.
Opposition research is not a crime. Nor is talking about US politics with foreign nationals; if it were, I'd be guilty of treason on a weekly basis, since I now live in Europe.
The question now is: to what extent was the Trump campaign conspiring with Russia to subvert our election process? If they were involved in such a conspiracy, then the Trump organization has violated Federal laws and should be held to account, each and every one who so conspired.
This is hilarious! I can remember using almost exactly those same words with Hillbots every time one of her corrupt schemes came to light. For example, isn't interceding with the Attorney General on your wife's behalf to head off an investigation in to her before an election a crime known as 'obstruction of justice'? Riddle me that, Batman.Replies: @Dr. Crow, @Dr. Crow
Although you may not like the source of the information nor its underlying purposes, if it exposes criminal actions by anyone than it served a good cause.
Dr. Crow's first comment on UR.
And yet…and yet… there is evidence that the Trump campaign was in contact with various Russians all during the campaign.
Replies: @Dr. Crow
defn of Corvinus
The Latin name Corvinus derives from the Latin word corvus meaning raven, although the word today refers to the birds' genus including ravens and crows among others.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvin