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    Over the past three months I’ve authored six articles about the conflict between Russia and Ukraine: that’s six out of eleven installments that have showed up at MY CORNER and then published in such venues as LEWROCKWELL.com and THE UNZ REVIEW. That may seem excessive—and I acknowledge that. But the issue is, I would suggest,...
  • @TG
    I don't know what is going on in Ukraine, I mean, sure, the western elites will lie about everything, but sometimes they tell at least some of truth, when it suits them. How can I tell?

    I would however like to indulge in a bit of "comparative propagandology." I checked the leading headlines of two of the main state organs of propaganda, CNN, and Sputnik. What did I find?

    CNN: Russian forces are in disarray and Ukrainians are regaining the initiative.

    Sputnik: Something about Hunter Biden's laptop.

    Conclusion: Granted that the Russians were provoked, and perhaps Putin will force a victory out of this, but my reading is that things are not going exactly as the Russians had planned.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Notsofast, @Realist, @cassandra

    Grammar-school children watching a chess game think the boring quiet player must be losing to loudmouth opponent because he doesn’t reveal what he’s thinking.

  • Volodymyr Zelensky is the current President of Ukraine. He was elected in a landslide victory in 2019 on the promise of easing tensions with Russia and resolving the crisis in the breakaway republics in east Ukraine. He has made no attempt to keep his word on either issue. Instead, he has greatly exacerbated Ukraine's internal...
  • @Jon Halpenny
    Zelensky is said to be connected with the powerful oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi#Early_life

    Replies: @cassandra

    I’ve been revising my personal Ukraine “narrative”. I still think it’s a recent avatar of a long-standing ethnic conflict between Russians and Poles/Westerners, but I now think that the violence might be fomented and used by the real power behind the throne, Kolomoisky, who also seeems to be willing to help the west along as long as he’s given a somewhat free hand.

    Something to try on for size: Kolomoisky is a Ukro-Jewish mafioso, who hires out Azov fascists as muscle to enforce his power. This changes the picture from ethnic violence motivated mostly by political fanaticism, to thuggery motivated by enforcement of K’s power. In other words, the Azov battalion is a wholly owned subsidiary of Igor, whose appearance has as much to do with their embrace of violence as it does with their political inclinations. A Jew hiring fascist mercenaries might appear incongruous, but business is business.

    This raises the interesting question of whether western Ukrainians will see Putin mostly as an ethnic Russian oppressor, or as someone who can deliver them from out-of-control gangsterism. With this added to the mix, Putin’s intentions become very unclear, as he might be trying to break Ukrainian oligarchs’ attachment to the west, to have some semblance of responsbility to the welfare of their own people, similar to what he himself did when he came to power in Russia and arrested the social freefall of the nineties.

    K’s machinations are less clear, though undoubtedly defensive. Certainly he wants to maintain if not amass even more power. I suspect he’s doing the bidding of the Rothschilds, US, or Davos globalists, not that there’s necessarily a significant difference in their agendas, but that much of his ower derives from behind-the-scenes cooperation with these larger sharks. Could K make a deal with P?

    Zelensky is just the front office boy.

    • Replies: @Abbybwood
    @cassandra

    My impression from all I have read is that Putin is sticking to his plan of “De-Nazification” of Ukraine hopefully including the US Department of Defense Bio-weapons labs:

    https://francesleader.substack.com/p/us-wmd-labs-in-ukraine?s=r

    I have also been watching “The Duran” on Odysee or Rumble every day. Sometimes they have 2 1/2 hour updates. This was Alex from Greece today:

    https://odysee.com/@alexchristoforou:7/putin's-red-line-on-no-fly-zone.-visa:4

    I just want the truth about what is happening in Ukraine and “why”.

    Ain’t gonna get any more truth about Ukraine from CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, FOX, PBS, NPR etc. than they gave us on Covid.

    Just a giant pack of liars and propagandists and apparently they think we are too fucking stoopit to figure it all out.

  • As an heir to the most famous political family in modern American history, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is hardly an obscure individual, and recent events have greatly elevated his national prominence. Although he had spent most of his career as a highly-successful environmental attorney, during the early 2000s he gradually became involved with the grassroots...
  • @onebornfree
    R.U.: "Indulging in overly-heated rhetoric, he declared “We have witnessed over the last 20 months a coup d’état against democracy, and the controlled demolition of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights.” He further suggested that that government requirements for vaccinations and mandates were imposing “fascism” on our society,"

    I'm not really a big fan of the "government can solve our problems" statist Kennedy, however, there's absolutely nothing "overheated" in Kennedy's words here, nothing.

    He's simply described _exactly_ what is going on, and has been going on for decades in the US and elsewhere.

    Fact: Many states in the US are presently under a medical fascist dictatorship.

    If you, Mr Unz, do not, or will not see that simple fact, when it's staring right in your face, then I can only conclude that you are "a cup and saucer shy of a full set", and that your "elevator doesn't go all the way up to the top floor.

    Wakeup, fer chrissakes!

    "Regards" onebornfree

    Replies: @Curmudgeon, @cassandra

    I second your comments on this:

    Indulging in overly-heated rhetoric, he declared “We have witnessed over the last 20 months a coup d’état against democracy, and the controlled demolition of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights.”

    Overly heated? RFK hit the nail on the head. I’ve been personally trying to avoid this conclusion for quite some time, but it’s become impossible. I’m relieved that discussion is finally coming out into the open, and disapppinted that Mr. Unz is still in denial.

    The loss of rights and sovereignty is a necessary part of the COVID disinformation campaaign meant to hide the discrepancies between what primary medical literature indicates on the one hand, compared with the official pronouncements shielded by the hearsay news and censorship on the other. The no-free-speech MSM has become a sophomorically one-sided bullhorn whose main function is been to suppress intellectual dissent and enforce ideological conformity.

    The medical literature is replete with simple treatments for COVID that doctors have have discovered/developed, some since early 2020, which can render COVID no worse than the flu. A pervasive propaganda effort has been devoted to keep the public ignorant if not frightened of these solutions. In a concerted program official malpractice, Fauci et al. can speak any lie with a strainght face, even in Congress, and promote any coercion he pleases, secure in the knowledge that the MSM will have his back. Simple Tony says do this, and no matter how silly, compliance is expected. Consent of the governed enters not at all into this program.

    Intead of asking how you can be so incurious about the censorship, cancelling, and physical oppression, Mr. Unz, I’ll ask instead, what shred of liberty is being preserved in the current operation that wasn’t smashed in the Weimar “emergency” that Hitler used to take power?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @cassandra

    Let's not forget that ALL of the world leaders, not just the united States government have "exempted" themselves from the vaxxes.
    THAT, in itself, speaks VOLUMES about what (((they))) have in store for us...

  • Robert F Kennedy Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health should be front-page news in all the news media in the US. Instead, it has been met with the proverbial thundering silence. Critics seeking to have Kennedy dismissed as a kook trading on a...
  • The question comes up, exactly whom is this book for?

    To those sympathetic to the author, such as myself, most of what I’ve heard that’s in the book is already known. (At least I believe so; I’m waiting for my copy, if only to support RFK Jr.)

    Those anatagonistic to the author will dismiss everything out-of-hand as anti-vax disinformation and falsehood.

    Have the propagandists at the Trusted News Initiative left anyone undecided at this point?

  • Earlier this week, Tucker Carlson experienced a bizarre interview with Ohio Congressman Mike Turner, who is calling for a war with Russia to protect anal-oriented democracy in the Ukraine. It was really a staggering thing, what this guy was saying. Tucker kept asking him why Americans should go fight and die for democracy in the...
  • @Agent76
    May 15, 2017 Ukraine: US-Installed Fascist Rule in Europe’s Heartland

    Will Donetsk Rejoin Russia? The nation shares a near-1,500 mile land and sea border with Russia. Stop NATO’s Rick Rozoff earlier explained Ukraine is “the decisive linchpin in plans by the US and its NATO allies to effect a military cordon sanitaire, severing Russia from Europe” – a sinister plot perhaps intended as prelude to nuclear war.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-us-installed-fascist-rule-in-europes-heartland-will-donetsk-rejoin-russia/5590150

    Sep 9, 2016 US funded Ukrainian army is terrorizing civilians, 2016

    Russell Bentley is a former US marine, that now fights for the Donbass, Eastern Ukraine, against the US-funded Ukrainian army.

    https://youtu.be/92KfmGY12yQ

    Replies: @cassandra, @Ukraine Tiger

    Here we see how Ukraine is making Donbass & Lugansk “Safe for Democracy”. Carlson should NOT have missed the point, that Ukraine is supposed to be sitting down with D & L leaders, according to the Minsk treaty, to negotiate a “democratic” settlement.

    The question to Mike Turner should have been, why are you pushing for military escalation insread of democratic settlement in Ukraine?

    • Thanks: Agent76
  • I have cited my late friend “Mick” Trainor’s words elsewhere, and kept them in mind since he said them to me in the late 1980s.They ought to be graven in granite in the minds of everyone of good heart in public life. They are also an indictment of the “9/11 Truth” movement as a whole,...
  • Out-Thought, Out-Bought, Out-Fought

    To mix metaphors, there’s a steamroller in the room. Media control can deflate the best of efforts, the most convincing evidence, the worst atrocities; it can inflate trivial to the monumental and create evil from good.

    In the face of blatantly unconstutional and corrupt election practices, the narrative was created that those who documented such events were spreading disinformation. When citizens peacably assembled for a redress of this grievance, the media portrayed the Stop the Steal Rally as a violent insurrection.

    Even in the face of doctors’ reports of success with early outpatient treatments, the media has convinced many that the CDC’s recommendation, that inaction is an appropriate treatment for COVID until hospitalization becomes necessary, is sensible. Despite proven effective prophylactic measures, we’re to believe that only the vaccines give hope.

    I know people who believe that WMD’s were found in Iraq, or that the vaccinated can’t spread COVID.

    The media has unabashedly convinced many that organizations like the Trusted News Initiative or Good Information Inc., openly espousing an agenda of censorship, really will preserve democracy.

    All you need to do is go to one of the “fact-checking” sites to see how convincingly lies can be proclaimed . Straw dogs, personal assassinations, and derogatory comments so easily warp perceptions of reality. Control is so easy when you have the platform.

    So: the problem is not with the strategies or actions of the truth-tellers of 911 (or of American Pravda). They do provide all the properly irrefutable evidence to the public. They do target the proper audiences. They have even aroused incendiary political reactions. But healthy political reactions are being effectively snuffed out by a propaganda campaign that makes the absurd appear reasonable, that makes court malfeasance seem sensible, and that portrays political repression of our secret security organizations as protective.

    • Agree: Iris
  • The West is collapsing under the weight of authoritarian governments. These “representatives” are rapidly robbing the individual citizen of bodily autonomy, of freedom of movement, and of the ability to work, play and partake in society. Under martial law, Australia and New Zealand have, in the course of the Covid pandemic, practically reverted to penal-colony...
  • @Anonymous Dyer
    @Antiochus

    The above perspectives are ignorant.

    Consider what is revealed in this video:

    https://youtu.be/SvEX15vd82w

    The Roman empire was based on Greek culture

    The original Christian church became what is now known as the Greek Orthodox church

    The western Roman empire was taken over by the Franks who imposed an intellectual version of Christianity which became the modern Catholic church.

    The Orthodox church provided spiritual healing while the Catholic church imposed rules on believers not unlike Pol Pot and the goal was Frankish enslavement of the subject Europeans.

    Comment: the Catholic church cannot be reformed, it's basis is not in Christ.

    Replies: @cassandra, @animalogic

    Thank you for this perspective. Having encountered this thesis for the first time, I’m still early in the process of digesting the ideas. The proposed explanation for the way that Roman estates connected by open roads became fiefdoms protected by castles is worth exploring.

    As for slavery, on the other hand, the authors seem to present this as a Frankish invention applied to conquered Rome. However, at least in the Gallic Wars, and likely elsewhere, the Roman MO for treating conquered enemies was to send them “under the yoke”, to enslave them. So if Frankish enslavement of conquered people hadn’t been a generally practiced policy of those times, in the particular case of Franks conquering Romans, it was at least payback.

    Also, before portraying the Frankish changes as being universally for the worse, I understand that the average lifespan of a Roman slave was about 17 (pls correct if wrong), and the implied attrition required a continued supply from Roman conquests to maintain the slave population at the required levels. It’s hard to imagine that the Franks could have made the status of slaves that much worse, but then I suppose I shouldn’t underestimate man’s capacity for evil.

  • Facing high expectations, a five-man band Taliban finally played in Moscow. Yet the star of the show, predictably, was the Mick Jagger of geopolitics: Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Right from the start, Lavrov set the tone for the Moscow format consultations, which boast the merit of “uniting Afghanistan with all neighboring countries.” Without skipping...
  • @Gorgeous George
    OMFG. Taliban needs to be accountable to nato? In wtf universe do these people live in??


    One of the mistakes the participants of this meeting are making is doing nato bidding by insisting on inclusion to the max degree. Andrew Anglin made a great point on that, no one asked or expected the Bolsheviks to be inclusive, or the victorious allies, or a dosen or so other examples. They are in effect asking of the Taliban to prop up a fifth column against themselves.

    Replies: @cassandra

    OMFG. Taliban needs to be accountable to nato? In wtf universe do these people live in??

    Well said!

    Nevertheless, I wouldn’t take any bets that the media won’t piously intone that NATO would provide a moderating democratic influence, and that NATO’s presence should be encouraged for humanitarian reasons. Nor would I take any bets that most consumers of said media won’t nod appreciatively.

    Sorry for the double negatives, but they seem appropriate when NATO arrogantly tries to present their having a say in Central Asia as a positive development.

  • President Putin has gone into hiding. Well, sort of. On September 14, he said that many people (“dozens”) in his inner circle have tested positive for the virus, and as a result he has to self-isolate. His sudden seclusion has sent waves of anguish across this huge country. His explanation was met with disbelief. Everybody...
  • Everybody around Putin is vaccinated and so is Putin, or so he claimed. Why would he need to self-isolate; how could all these vaccinated people become sick? Is the vaccine – fake?

    Well, pretty much. The vaccine was always an experimental affair after all, and unfortunately it seems to have failed. People seem to forget there’s such a thing as breakout case, but they shouldn’t be surprised when COVID erupts in vaccinated populations. Gibralter’s last wave was in a 100 % vaccinated population, and Singapore’s post-vax wave is worse than the first. After Delta, vaccine efficacy has plummeted, so it’s prudent to exercise caution if you’re in any group with memebers having a viral load, regardless of vaccine status. At this point, between the deline in efficacy between temporal decline and the appearance of Delta, and variations in one’s personal COVID hygiene, there’s no telling what anyone’s state of contagion is, vaccinated or not, except perhaps by a nasal culture.

    This isn’t to say that COVID isn’t a handy cover for all sorts of things.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @cassandra

    AND, if the Medical Mafias and the BigPharma captured regulators would allow highly effective and safe early treatments like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, instead of sending people home without treatment and told to call an ambulance (if they could afford it)when they turned blue, the epidemic could be crushed, with little chance of vaccine escapee new 'variants'. But that would upset BigPharma profits, and THAT is ALL that counts. Unless there is also an even more sinister process at work.

  • It seems that ever since Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump in the U.S. presidential election of 2016 the western media and numerous politicians have been working especially hard to convince the world that the Russian government is little better than a modern version of Josef Stalin’s USSR. Part of the effort can be attributed...
  • @Carroll Price
    @cassandra

    The Skripals are hiding out in New Zealand under assumed identities that the best Russian agents couldn't figure out in a hundred years..

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/poisoned-ex-russian-spy-sergei-skripal-and-daughter-yulias-new-life-in-new-zealand/XVJO6O6VBB2ZPOWEYEFJSLLELY/

    Replies: @cassandra

    The Skripals are hiding out in New Zealand under assumed identities that the best Russian agents couldn’t figure out in a hundred years.

    …and they lived happily ever after.

    I’d call that heartwarming, wouldn’t you?

  • This article closes with

    That someone, somewhere, somehow seems to be making an effort to isolate and delegitimize President Putin by making him an international poisoner is tragedy elevated by its absurdity to the level of farce. It serves no purpose and, in the end, can only lead to mistrust on all sides that can in turn become very, very ugly.

    Serves no purpose? By now it should be evident that Western elites are trying to consolidate power over Asia, having already taken control of the internal politics of North America and most of Europe.

    The public view being presented is that elite shamans of the EU, Davos, NATO etc. are somehow uniquely qualified to construct policies most beneficials to their peoples. Just listen to their TED talks and news interviews.

    Obfuscation and censorship being what it is, their actual motives are unclear. Many find their agenda of unaccountable control unpleasant, and many under their sway are rebelling politicaally. Hence the popularity of Orban, Farage (and Brexit), the Greek Uxi vote, LePen, and Trump. Hence, likewise, the virulent counter-propaganda and censorship intended to paint assertions of popular sovereignty, nationhood, and tradition as distastefully primitive.

    And then there’s Putin, who sees Russian nationalism, tradition and history as something worth preserving and defending, and even developing, and the races charged to his care as worthy of preservation. This can NOT be allowed to stand, and any qualiities of his leadership that are beneficial to his people must be stamped in the mud, and he himself must be smeared as an irresponsible autocrat lest anyone in the west find out that there IS an alternative.

    In my mind, the “purpose” is so plain that I have to wonder why someone as familiar with Atlanticist machinations as Giraldi would wonder even for a moment about his question.

    • Replies: @chris
    @cassandra


    In my mind, the “purpose” is so plain that I have to wonder why someone as familiar with Atlanticist machinations as Giraldi would wonder even for a moment about his question.
     
    Yeah, agree completely, Cassandra.

    The other thing to keep in mind is the fact that the previous known Plutonium victim was Yasser Arafat.
  • @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    @Ace

    A much simpler solution than letting them imprisoned would be to quietly murder them and hide the evidence.

    Replies: @cassandra, @Ace

    A much simpler solution than letting them imprisoned would be to quietly murder them…

    Yes, but then you’d be wasting propaganda points. The Skripals are being guarded against the FSB, don’cha know, and being able to present occasional indications of how well MI6 is protecting its charges can provide heartwarming stories as needed for reinforcement of appropriate geopolitical opinion.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    @cassandra

    The Skripals are hiding out in New Zealand under assumed identities that the best Russian agents couldn't figure out in a hundred years..

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/poisoned-ex-russian-spy-sergei-skripal-and-daughter-yulias-new-life-in-new-zealand/XVJO6O6VBB2ZPOWEYEFJSLLELY/

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Ace
    John Helmer has also done extensive, detailed analysis of the Skripal and Navalny cases. His blog is Dancing with Bears.

    The fact that Skripal and his daughter survived and are now living incommunicado in British or American custody is the most damming aspect of their case. What they might testify to must be so damaging to HMG that they must either be forcibly detained or paid handsomely to shut up and stay out of sight.

    They can't be relocated and remain unrecognized and if they're getting rich on a US air base what kind of a life is that? Ye old hot potato for the British who apparently can't possibly let the press get to them or let the Skripals speak or write.

    The world press has zero interest in this bizarre aspect of the case.

    Then there is the urgent need the British pohleece felt to remove the roof of Skripal's house. A small amount of a Novichok class agent on the outside front door handle would have picked up atmospheric water in due course. If the agent is similar to sarin it would evaporate like water though if like VX it would not have evaporated quickly. Either way, whatever was on the handle seems hardly likely to seep from where it was exposed to outside air, water and wind into the interior of the house such as to require the removal of the roof.

    What was really going on in that house is the $64 question. Removal of the roof was a highly public endeavor which the Peelers thought had to be done no matter the consequences. Same with the policeman allegedly exposed to the agent. His car was destroyed apparently even though his exposure was at second hand at worst. Plus he was obviously bought off with a more expensive replacement (?) house and new car. I forget if his separation from the force was for medical reasons but he apparently seeks more money than was paid him on separation.

    And the British are very, very leery of an honest coroner's inquest into Dawn Sturgess's death, as Helmer has tenaciously made clear.

    Perhaps the reason the British are so goosey about this case has to do with the nearby Portion Down facility and what it might be up to. And he and Yulia were in a pub with Pablo Miller his former (?) MI6 case officer who looks too young to be living in retirement.

    Replies: @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist, @cassandra, @Peripatetic Itch

    At this moment, John Helmer is running a column on Skrpial on his website:
    http://johnhelmer.org/british-convert-skripal-sturgess-inquest-into-novichok-show-throw-trial/

    Helmer summarizes Wednesday’s procedings:
    “On September 22, Dame Heather Hallett, the coroner in the inquest into the cause of death of Dawn Sturgess on July 8, 2018, officially ordered the prosecution of a crime without a defence; in a trial in which the verdict has already been declared by the judge herself and the prosecutors; in which the surviving victims of the alleged crime, Sergei and Yulia Skripal, are not allowed to testify and forbidden to appear in public at all; when the three Russians accused of the crime are not permitted to be represented in the proceeding; in which there will be no jury; and in which the evidence of the crime, the weapon, the intention and motive of the perpetrators will be presented in secret so that there can be no testing for truth, fabrication, or lie.”

    Helmer has collected his investigations (documenting British procedural anomalies and their reaction to investigative queries) in his book Skrpial in Prison:

    For decades, now, Helmer’s column “Dances With Bears” has been my go-to source for the skinny on internal Russian politics and interactions with the West. He tells you more than you’ll ever want to know about the oligarchs’ machinations, Russian and Western, complete with pictures so you can put faces to the names.

    Come to think of it, some of his columns might fit in well at unz.com.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Ace
    @cassandra

    Thanks. I'll be sure to check that. I'm a big fan of his too. He vacuums up every stray detail!

  • John Helmer has also done extensive, detailed analysis of the Skripal and Navalny cases. His blog is Dancing with Bears.

    The fact that Skripal and his daughter survived and are now living incommunicado in British or American custody is the most damming aspect of their case. What they might testify to must be so damaging to HMG that they must either be forcibly detained or paid handsomely to shut up and stay out of sight.

    They can’t be relocated and remain unrecognized and if they’re getting rich on a US air base what kind of a life is that? Ye old hot potato for the British who apparently can’t possibly let the press get to them or let the Skripals speak or write.

    The world press has zero interest in this bizarre aspect of the case.

    Then there is the urgent need the British pohleece felt to remove the roof of Skripal’s house. A small amount of a Novichok class agent on the outside front door handle would have picked up atmospheric water in due course. If the agent is similar to sarin it would evaporate like water though if like VX it would not have evaporated quickly. Either way, whatever was on the handle seems hardly likely to seep from where it was exposed to outside air, water and wind into the interior of the house such as to require the removal of the roof.

    What was really going on in that house is the \$64 question. Removal of the roof was a highly public endeavor which the Peelers thought had to be done no matter the consequences. Same with the policeman allegedly exposed to the agent. His car was destroyed apparently even though his exposure was at second hand at worst. Plus he was obviously bought off with a more expensive replacement (?) house and new car. I forget if his separation from the force was for medical reasons but he apparently seeks more money than was paid him on separation.

    And the British are very, very leery of an honest coroner’s inquest into Dawn Sturgess’s death, as Helmer has tenaciously made clear.

    Perhaps the reason the British are so goosey about this case has to do with the nearby Portion Down facility and what it might be up to. And he and Yulia were in a pub with Pablo Miller his former (?) MI6 case officer who looks too young to be living in retirement.

    • Agree: Olivier1973, cassandra
    • Replies: @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    @Ace

    A much simpler solution than letting them imprisoned would be to quietly murder them and hide the evidence.

    Replies: @cassandra, @Ace

    , @cassandra
    @Ace

    At this moment, John Helmer is running a column on Skrpial on his website:
    http://johnhelmer.org/british-convert-skripal-sturgess-inquest-into-novichok-show-throw-trial/

    Helmer summarizes Wednesday's procedings:
    "On September 22, Dame Heather Hallett, the coroner in the inquest into the cause of death of Dawn Sturgess on July 8, 2018, officially ordered the prosecution of a crime without a defence; in a trial in which the verdict has already been declared by the judge herself and the prosecutors; in which the surviving victims of the alleged crime, Sergei and Yulia Skripal, are not allowed to testify and forbidden to appear in public at all; when the three Russians accused of the crime are not permitted to be represented in the proceeding; in which there will be no jury; and in which the evidence of the crime, the weapon, the intention and motive of the perpetrators will be presented in secret so that there can be no testing for truth, fabrication, or lie."

    Helmer has collected his investigations (documenting British procedural anomalies and their reaction to investigative queries) in his book Skrpial in Prison:
    https://www.amazon.com/Skripal-Prison-John-Helmer/dp/B084PY9W4R

    For decades, now, Helmer's column "Dances With Bears" has been my go-to source for the skinny on internal Russian politics and interactions with the West. He tells you more than you'll ever want to know about the oligarchs' machinations, Russian and Western, complete with pictures so you can put faces to the names.

    Come to think of it, some of his columns might fit in well at unz.com.

    Replies: @Ace

    , @Peripatetic Itch
    @Ace

    Besides Helmer, anyone who wants to understand the Skripal story should read journalist Rob Slane’s excellent blog, the Blogmire, which is, I suggest, the finest open-source investigation of any event ever put together. Slane and his loyal group of commenters have pored over every aspect of the case and every statement put out by the authorities. In so doing they conclusively prove the British government has no credibility whatsoever in the incident.
    http://www.theblogmire.com/the-salisbury-poisonings-two-years-on-a-riddle-wrapped-in-a-cover-up-inside-a-hoax/

    Sergei has of course not been seen or paraded about in the 3.5 years since the incident on March 4, 2018. Someone purporting to be Yulia was brought out once, but may well have been a different person. That needs to be explained. Some have speculated they were squirreled away, perhaps to New Zealand.

    Another possibility is that Sergei Skripal was not poisoned but was actually successfully extracted by the Russian secret services in an operation that left MI6 with egg on its face. This possibility has been discussed and considered seriously in Slane’s blog, perhaps even by Rob himself. Consider the following points:

    The British authorities changed their narrative literally dozens of times, suggesting they were making the story up as they went. The final version of the narrative, that both Skripals were poisoned by Novichok placed on the door handle of Skripal’s house made no sense whatsoever, as both allegedly collapsed at the same time, perhaps four hours later, and the Novichok as submitted to the OCPW was deemed pure, uncontaminated by weeks of rain and air pollution.

    All double agents must always be suspected of being triple agents and Skripal was reportedly in contact with the Russian embassy in London. Skripal’s house must therefore have been under 24/7 CCTV and agent surveillance. His house was situated at the end of a dead-end street. No film, however, has been divulged showing the two alleged perps coming up to the house to put the Novichok on the door handle. No doubt this is because it didn’t happen. (This is one of the few points, by the way, made by the Russian government).

    At the end of the affair the British government decided it needed to painstakingly replace the roof of Skripal’s house, even though the Skripals were allegedly poisoned as they were leaving the house for the last time. None of the other buildings involved, including the home of a supposedly poisoned police detective, needed the same treatment.

    The British government changed the timeline of the path allegedly taken by the Skripals that day. Originally they cited multiple witnesses to indicate Sergei and Yulia had gone to Zizzi’s Restaurant, and then to the Bishops Mill Pub just before they collapsed on the park bench. Then without explanation on 13 March the timeline was reversed: they were now said to have gone to the pub first, then to Zizzi’s. Nevertheless investigators pored over the pub parking lot for some weeks. This may well suggest the authorities were trying to deflect attention from something significant that happened at the pub.
    https://www.theblogmire.com/the-10-main-holes-in-the-official-narrative-on-the-salisbury-poisonings-6-the-meal-and-the-drink/

    The Skripals were poisoned on March 4. On March 5 an Aeroflot jet left Heathrow on a scheduled flight to Moscow. The next time but one that particular jet body returned, it was shanghaied by the British authorities in a most unusual and illegal manner. The pilot and crew were ordered off the plane in what is considered to be an act of international piracy and a police dog was brought on to circle the passenger section, but for only a very few minutes — just long enough to search for someone’s or something’s scent. The search apparently ended when the dog focused on one particular seat.
    https://guernseypress.com/news/uk-news/2018/03/31/russia-claims-british-officials-searched-aeroflot-plane-at-heathrow/
    https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2018/07/putins-spy-agency-carried-whirlwind-30-hour-novichok-mission-poison-skripals/

    Replies: @Ace

  • Did the regulators at the FDA know that all previous coronavirus vaccines had failed in animal trials and that the vaccinated animals became either severely ill or died? Yes, they did. Did they know that previous coronavirus vaccines had a tendency to "enhance the infection" and "make the disease worse"? Yes. Did Dr Anthony Fauci...
  • @anonymous
    1980s inscriptions on Georgia Guidestones
    https://i.ibb.co/Lx6ffMK/georgia-guidestones-500mm-people-nature.jpg
    1980s quote attributed to French-Jewish political kingmaker Jacques Attali, French original confirmed at police association site here, this incendiary text deleted from later editions of the book
    https://i.ibb.co/Ct7JDkq/Attali-1981-future-pandemic-mass-killing.jpg

    Replies: @anon, @cassandra, @Mark Hunter, @advancedatheist

    There’s nothing more dangerous than a powerful lunatic who takes himself seriously.

  • The 20th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is a particularly somber one, not just because of the horrific nature of events of that day reaching its second-decade milestone, but because of how little we seem to have learned in that amount of time. The fear and trauma generated by the events of 9/11 were used...
  • An incisive and pointed analysis; thank you for the black pill, Whitney.

    We have indeed been guided into neo-feudalist habits. Most of us are closely bound to corporate masters by economic chains, and our intellectual activities and social behavior are kept in line by psychological coercion supported by Ash Conformity induced by by universal mass propaganda. In those pesky cases where activities become dangeroiusly effective, political dissidents are hauled off to dungeons to face various punishments of our police state under exaggerated or fabricated accusations of terror, subversion or treason as you point out.

    In science, the analog of comiing up with “conspiracy theories” is called “exploring hypotheses”, where it is most favorably regarded. This admirable part of scientific back-and-forth is very human, not much different from a barroom discussion, except that it is hopefully carried out with more acumen and respect.

    Scientific free-thinking does share with its “conspiracy theory” cousin a subversive tendency which naturally challenges orthodoxy. “Loony” ideas that often undercut propaganda are welcomed, and respectfully sidelined only after they have been falsified by the process of critical examination rather than negative criticism alone. Sometimes, like continental drift, they are even kept in a kind of reserve for later examination. The term intellectual ferment well characterizes this process, since at its best, it’s a bubbling cauldron of ideas that rise and sink with percolating development. I don’t mean to limit this metaphor to science, whose simplicity lends itself to easy charaacterization, but to describe in this way all sincere and energetic intellectual activities, from the most immediate everyday crafts to the most ethereal mathematics.

    We seem to have forgotten that critical thinking alongside free thought arose in the medieval cities, havens where artisans and scholars alike had some opportunity to live lives “off the grid” of offficaldom. It was the free self-directed actiivity of these oddballs that was at least partly responsible for the eventiual rise of the best in western civilization. We are seeing their modern analogs brought into being throughout the internet, and the only question is whether they can be realized in some form in today’s political world. If not, instead of our hopes of expanding free thought to the entire world, the best hope of the west will be to pass the baton.

    • Agree: FreedomAndTruth
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @cassandra

    Excellent comment cassandra. Clear thinking.

  • In a Financial Times op-ed, “Investors in Xi’s China face a rude awakening” (August 30, 2021), George Soros writes that Xi’s “crackdown on private enterprise shows he does not understand the market economy. … Xi Jinping, China’s leader, has collided with economic reality. His crackdown on private enterprise has been a significant drag on the...
  • @Malla
    Soros is warning Premier Xi because Xi is in a struggle with the old Chinese Oligarchs, about 50 Oligarchic elite Communist families who literally run and own China behind the scenes. And Soros is linked to them Oligarchs. Jiang Zemin is one of them as his family literally owns Shanghai. Those Oligarchs are close to the Globalist Bankers and made a lot of money in the last few decades, boatloads of money. They are close to Hollywood, Wall Street, European banking institutions etc..
    Xi was just a front man at first but got secret info about them Oligarchs when he was on a visit to the USA because some Chinese head of Police who was in soup, took a lot of information about these families, tapped conversations and all and gave them to an American embassy. He foolishly thought that would save his skin but as usual the Americans especially the Democ-rats ratted on the poor guy and made a deal with the Chinese Oligarchs. The Chief of Police guy died in prison. Demons like Obamba, Killary Hillary, Nancy Pisslosi etc... were involved. The Chinese chief of Staff was naive to trust America and that too Democ-rats demons. No wonder he was backstabbed.
    Xi was in the USA with Vice President Biden and he got wind of all this info. So in China he asked the Oligarchs for control of the PLA (partial control) because control of the PLA means big power in the PRC system. The Chinese Communist Oligarchs were happy with the financial aspect of things except for some reason now they seem to be in some form of further power struggle with President Xi or it seems Xi is just consolidating even more power. And so Xi began clamping the financial aspects of the PRC to weaken them Oligarchs up. That is what all that Hong Kong fiasco was all about, HK has a lot of money, it is a major financial center of the World. All that security laws and the revolt of HK youth against the CCP have a lot more to do with this power struggle than anything else.
    Some say Xi's actions remind them of Chiang-Kai Shek and that may be true upto some extent. But to be honest he is emulating Chairman Mao. Because in the power struggle behind the scenes he is in the same situation as Mao was once, isolated within the CCP before he started the Cultural Revolution. Xi is only emulating many of Mao's move as he finds himself in a similar situation and he has learnt the moves Mao took to protect his own position in the past (against many in the CCP including Deng at that time). Soros is connected to those old Oligarchs and is not happy with Xi's actions. P.R. China may be slowly going back to its old days, Maoist like days. It may close up again to the rest of the World. Lets see if that happens.

    Replies: @anon, @d dan, @Zen, @cassandra, @antibeast

    Today’s bottom-line struggle in geopolitics is whether any entity can evade the clutches of the western central bankers. The struggle sometimes appears political, but in so many cases these manifest themselves in the form of economic sanctions imposed through New York Banks.

    That having been said, IMHO, the banks have been overplaying their hand, in the sense that political demands are now generating rebellion rather than compliance, among Russia, parts of eastern Europe, Iran, and, within the last several years, China.

    Russia is instructive, because Putin managed to cut off political subservience to the west without alienating Russia’s self-seeking oligarchs. China has an enormously stronger sense of nationhood, much less respect for Europe, and, I dare say, much more political savvy. I’ll go out on a limb and predict that the Chinese, party and oligarchs alike, will play Soros and the western finance system, more so than the other way around.

    Whether that’s a good thing for the west is a moot point. Although Trump handled this issue clumsiily, at least he recognized it. Biden’s policies don’t merit notice.

  • @Rubicon
    "What does it profit a man, if he gains the whole world, but in the end loses his soul."

    Tyrants come and go. They die like all the rest of us.
    We're very privileged in reading how Dr. Michael Hudson slices and dices Soros malignant look on the world.

    We, in the Western World are under the sway of these many "tyrants."
    From Gates, Soros, Fink of Black Rock & Vanguard&, but they will all vanish with the passage of time, and how very short will be their lifetime;

    in a twinkling of the eye, they will have lived a worthless, pathetic life.

    For all eternity, they will be despised and spat upon by God and mankind.

    Replies: @GomezAdddams, @Rev. Spooner, @cassandra, @aj54, @Anon

    There should be an additional assessment category beside “Agree” and “Thanks”. My reaction to this particular response is, “I Wish”

  • We have questions and we need answers. In particular, we need an answer to this question: Are Walmarts all secret military bases that are linked by hundreds of miles of underground tunnels? Some people say so. Here’s a video of a bunch of different clips of Walmarts which suggest this is the case. Here’s more...
  • Trying to suppress “conspiracy theory” ideas amounts to trying to stamp out intelligence. A human with a working brain, when confronted by a curious event, will immediately try to come up up with an explanation that makes sense of the phenomenon, even before checking out veracity. This isn’t “nutty”; it’s the way our minds are wired.

    In fact, the use of science, and more broadly, the invention of critical thinking, were historical developments that transformed these tendencies from wellsprings of folklore and mythology, into directed channels for finding reliable truth.

    [MORE]

    The inclination toward inventing explanations was channeled into the activity of constructing hypotheses. A sensitivity to notice discordant phenomena, and the ability to conjure not just one but a multiplicity of explanations, are certainly scientific talents, even though they may share features with mental imbalance. The entry of critical thinking resolves this ambiguity

    That contribution is (1) the realization that we can’t tell whether our ideas are true or false based on how marvelously imaginative they may be, but (2) discipline and effort are necessary to decide which if any have actual merit. Deductive examination is appropriate, in situations where the rationale for believing something can be traced back to firmer foundations; otherwise direct investigation, called experimentation in science, may be necessary.

    In contrast, politics generally attempts to persuade people to adopt attitudes using consensual (i.e., tribal) thinking. Popular belief in “scientific” evidence originates more from Ash Conformity than science proper, and many find agreeing with proclamations of “experts”preferable to having independent opinions.

    You wouldn’t want people to think you’re wearing a tinfoil, “anti-vaxxer” hat, would you?

    The final point is that to shut down any idea as a “conspiracy theory”, without understanding why adherents hold the belief, prioritizes tribal judgment over reason, and presages a return to the Dark Ages. How many of the Trump-deranged actually understand why deplorables support Trump?

    Oligarchs find it much more convenient for their subjects’ opinions to be guided by elite consensus than their own critical thinking, and discourage the latter whenever possible. Consider the examples of Socrates, Galileo, or Giordano Bruno.

    • Agree: dimples
  • "April is the cruelest month," wrote T. S. Eliot in the opening line of what is regarded as his greatest poem, "The Waste Land." For President Joe Biden, the cruelest month is surely August of 2021, which is now mercifully ending. When has a president had a worse month? On the last Sunday in August,...
  • For how much ruin can a nation endure and remain a nation? How much of this can we sustain and survive — at a time when we are carrying the burden of the defense of our allies in Europe, the Middle East and East Asia against a gathering modern axis of Russia and China, which our own interventionist policies helped to bring into being?

    Our media are as partisan as they have been in our lifetimes. Our cultural elites endlessly mock the traditional values and beliefs of Middle America. Our national parties appear ever at sword’s point.

    Mission accomplished: the pattern in today’s political world isn’t to maintain and develop a nation or culture, but to dominate a civilization. A dystopian system based on fear, deception and manipulation is much easier to rule than one peopled with individuals with a strong sense of fairness, independence and self-esteem. We’re living in an Idiocracy, but without the sense of humor.

  • A few weeks back I wrote a column suggesting that Jews have become successful because they are smart. I confess that I did it in the spirit of a small boy poking a wasps’ nest and running like hell. I am a bad person, but it is more interesting than accountancy. The Devil makes me...
  • @Anonymous
    In his autobiography Norbert Wiener recounted how JBS Haldane, not exactly an ignoramus on things genetic, fully endorsed that “pop-evo” claim about smart shtehl boys scoring the best prospects (rich merchants’ daughters, more exactly) and raising the community’s average intelligence.

    People like to talk about average IQs, but the real action is at the right tail of the bell curve. If the Ashkenazi average is 15 points higher, Jews will become more prevalent the farther you go to the right. In his previous column Fred pointed out that half the titans of big tech are Jewish. This pattern is also found at rarefied cognitive venues like Harvard’s Math 55 (40% Jewish), the Wolf Prize for math (40%), and world chess championships (>50%).

    And two more realities will impose themselves: 1) The Jewish population is increasing, and 2) globalization and technology have created a winner-takes-all dynamic in the commanding heights of society, where Jewish representation should, because of 1), surpass 50% in a few years.

    It seems unavoidable, even painfully obvious, that Jews will be the main force shaping the 21st century.

    Replies: @Trelane, @Currahee, @JohnH, @cassandra

    People like to talk about average IQs, but the real action is at the right tail of the bell curve. If the Ashkenazi average is 15 points higher, Jews will become more prevalent the farther you go to the right.

    This makes some serious assumptions about the distribtution’s shape.

    From a mathematical/modelling point of view, assuming the IQ distributions to be Gaussian, you also have to assume that the width of the distributions is the same: otherwise, the wider Gaussian will always be able to dominate the uncrowded one out in the tails.

    But are IQ distributions magically constrained somehow to be Gaussian, especially in the tails? Consider this fictitious example: claims are made that the IQ of children unable to play with their peers because of lockdown will be reduced because of restricted brain development (don’t know: just an example). Let’s hypothesize that the more intelligent within the group intuits the problem from their children’s behavior, and resists lockdown, and allows their children to play as before. Then, the next generation of this group will be as highly represented in the high-tail as before. On the other hand, for the lockdown-compliant, portions of the lower IQ curve will shift downward. The overall shape of the IQ distribution willl shift, but the high-end tail won’t.

    The shape of the bell-curve can be expected to change whenever an IQ-dependent type of behavior can have an influence on IQ. In short, claims about how the tails of the distribution correlate with the mean are suspect.

  • In Afghanistan, the mission failure appears complete. The trillion-dollar project to plant Western democracy in a Muslim nation historically fabled for driving out imperial intruders has crashed and burned after 20 years, and the Taliban are suddenly back in power. After investing scores of billions in training and arming a force of 350,000 Afghani troops,...
  • @Wokechoke
    @cassandra

    Hannity and McConnell are not preferable.

    Replies: @cassandra

    Hannity and McConnell are not preferable.

    The point is, compared to whom? You’re setting up an argument over which sludge in the barrel comes closest to scraping the bottom. But getting into a food fight comparing which public figures are the most obnoxious is silly, since this is as much a matter of personal (dis)taste as who you’d vote for class president in grade school. I’d prefer to ask, where, anywhere on the US political scene, is there someone advocating for a constructive outcome, and how are they planning to create that?

    But even this discussion would really be off the mark, as the last 2 presidencies demonstrated that entrenched bureacratic clics, with the aid of corporate media, are the factions calling the shots. Political conflicts are betweeen oligarchs, facilitated by propaganda battles over public opinion.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @cassandra

    Which gives Hannity and McConnell the most room to wriggle.

  • @PJ London
    Pat at his dumbest.
    "The U.S. does, however, retain leverage. U.S. airpower can still do damage to the Taliban,"
    Exactly who or what is the "airpower" going to bomb? Are you planning on Nuking the whole country? Guys who have spent 20 years living on the mountains and in caves are not really interested in the national infrastructure and as they are now part of the civilian population, as always, the US will kill many more women and children than actual Taliban.

    ".. and the U.S. can veto any International Monetary Fun money and cut the Taliban’s access to Afghanistan’s financial reserves in U.S. banks." For God's sake!
    -
    Do you think they care about money?
    Do you think they care about financial gain or projects?
    Do you think that you can scare them into anything?
    These guys care about one thing and one thing only, having their homeland (and that means their tribal homelands) establish and maintain Islamic law and way of life (Sharia).
    -
    This concept is so far beyond the understanding of Western politicians and corporations that they cannot even conceive of people behaving this way. Which is why they lost and will always lose.
    At least 70% of the world's population do not share the western social ideas.
    They do not want to.
    They never will.
    Whilst the west has superior technology and material superiority, it falls far short of the ethical and moral standards the rest of the world embraces.
    Before you start yammering, first state how many years you have spent in an African country and how many in an Islamic country or how many years in the far east, then perhaps I would listen to your arguments about how the western culture is better than the others.

    Replies: @cassandra

    At least 70% of the world’s population do not share the western social ideas.
    They do not want to.
    They never will.

    Perhaps. I suspect that some do and some don’t, depending on ethnic and cultural differences within each country. But it shouldn’t be a matter of having countries vote to see whether they want Europeans to come in and set up “European Values”. The hyphenation “self-determination” starts with “self”. Each country needs to fix itself, assuming there are people within the country who even agree with western technocrats that something needs fixing. This principle should override any R2P nonsense, which is often self-serving propaganda anyway. NATO & Co. need to bug out and let people work out their own problems.

    Having had my pipe-dream, I believe that national and corporate interests will always be trying to steer nations in directions that have nothing to do with their own national self-interest. So we should always be looking for the cui bono? behind humanitarian motives such as human rights and R2P (especially involving children) before giving political approval to such “corrections”.

  • @Wokechoke
    This was a clear cut war for Zionists. The Taliban put their finger on it. The hysterical reaction of the press against Biden’s retreat order proves the point. The upsetting thing is that the worst elements of the GOP stand to gain from this sensible evacuation order freeing the country from an unwinnable occupation.

    Replies: @follyofwar, @cassandra

    The upsetting thing is that the worst elements of the GOP stand to gain from this sensible evacuation order freeing the country from an unwinnable occupation.

    A few points:
    1. Strategically, I agree that the evacuation is sensible.
    2. Tactically, it was a disaster; we should ALL be upset that the dem regime couldn’t even organize a withdrawal.
    3. Biden’s incompetence was on full display during the election, and our current behavior in Afghanistan is fully consistent with the quality of the Obama/Clinton foreign policy. No surprise here.
    4. The democrats are getting all they deserve for corruption of this election, especially cancelling Tulsi Gabbard during the primaries who was the only candidate with a function mind. The dems had their chance to stop “the worst elements of the GOP” right there, but chose a candidate with a reputation for international corruption instead. This was again a seamless continuation of Wassermann-Schulz’ behavior in 2016 against Bernie.
    5. Democratic Party behavior and politics seem to lead to nothing but domestic and international destruction, with nothing that can be seen as constructive or positive. Rabble-rousing shame and rage are the order of the day.

    All this leads one to ponder whether even the “worst elements of the GOP” might not be preferable to current Democratic Party offerings. A lot of people seem to think so. But let’s keep the blame for the Afghan evac where it belongs.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @cassandra

    Hannity and McConnell are not preferable.

    Replies: @cassandra

  • Chinese people are noting that the transfer of power in Afghanistan was smoother than the transfer of power in the United States. This is just a stone cold fact of reality. Whereas there was an election hoax in the United States, and many big problems surrounding it, the Taliban just peacefully rolled into Kabul, and...
  • @d dan
    August 15 was a good day 76 years ago. Imperial Japan surrendered, ending the suffering of millions. Unfortunately, it was also the day when the baton was passed from one evil to another. Millions more had suffered in Middle East, Africa, Vietnam,... since then.

    But we are again witnessing another historical moment now. Recall Soviet collapsed not long after it pulled out from the graveyard. Decent people can only hope for the end of the new evil, SOON.

    Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    history of “the whole offense, from Brzezinski until now . . .”
    posted by a guest writer on Pat Lang’s blog
    https://turcopolier.com/update-the-collapse-of-the-us-nato-project-in-afghanistan/#comment-185682

    the axiomatic basis for the US failure in Afghanistan originates much earlier, to Zbigniew Brzezinki’s plan to use Afghanistan as a wedge to bring about the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1979. It took Brzezinki 20 years to spill the beans but spill them he finally did in a January 1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur, in which he revealed that he convinced Jimmy Carter to issue a directive providing secret support to the opposition to the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. Carter’s directive was issued on July 3, 1979, almost six months before the Soviet invasion on December 24. Brzezinski believed that the US meddling he proposed would cause a Soviet military response and voila!, they would have their Vietnam.

    A key part of Brzezinski’s strategy was the buildup of jihadi groups using the Saudis to train them and opium trafficking to help finance them. This operation gave birth to Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, and fostered the growth of jihadi terrorism throughout Southwest Asia.

    • Agree: cassandra
  • Have we all forgotten Charlie Wilson’s War, and Reagan’s praise of the noble anti-Soviet mujahideen freedom fighters?

    In the 70’s and 80’s, the Russians had been trying to set up a puppet government, in a project as unpopular with the Organization of Islamic States as our own. Like the more recent US effort, the regime had also been trying to modernize Afghanistan, and was bringing unpopular modern european education and values to Afghan women, loss of which is so lamented here.

    Back then, the US, that ever-so-stalwart supporter of human rights, had its CIA collaborate with Prince Turki of Saudi intelligence ISI, to provide funds and weapons. Bagman Osama Bin Laden delivered these to the the jihadist opposition, in order to overthrow the Russian-supported leadership, and re-impose even stricter Wahhabist values we’re lamenting today. Payback is such a b***h.

    The jihadists are getting better. It’s taking them only 3 weeks to take over after the US started withdrawal, while it took them 3 years after the Russians left.

    Some say the war led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union; we have yet to see what repercussions will follow from the US departure. Graveyard of Empires.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @cassandra

    Najibullah held the jihadists at bay quite successfully, until the cirrhotic Quisling, Yeltsin, cut off military aid. The USA has been tormenting Afghanistan since the mid 70s, with evil, atavistic, Islamic religious troglodytes, their favoured allies in the region since WW2 and the alliance with the despicable Wahhabist Saud Mafia gang.

    Replies: @Adûnâi, @Deep Thought

  • Beginning late last year, several of our regular columnists became vocal anti-vaxxers with regard to the new Covid vaccines, and as a result our website was swarmed by their zealous adherents, who soon began pushing their determined message on entirely unrelated threads. This greatly irritated me, and I made increasing efforts to drive them away....
  • @cassandra
    @Rahan

    Indeed: while there may be lunatic anti-vaxxers, there are also fanatically indoctrinated pro-vaxxers. Data from Israel seems to indicate that the Pfizer vaccine, at least, has reduced efficacy against the Delta variant, and this is the sort of outcome Geert Vanden Bosch had anticipated.

    Rather than take a closer look at the possibility that the mRNA approach might be a long-term failure, there's a misdirection campaign, that somehow evil, irresponsible unvaccinateds are the ones really responsible for all the breakouts and rise in cases and deaths.

    This attitude is both scientifically and politically toxic. Emotional anti-vaxxers might harbor excessive values of righteous anger against corporations for pharmaceutical deception, but shoot-me-ups are promoting outright hatred of their fellow-citizens, and practically advocating witch-burnings.

    Where do I get my yellow star?

    Replies: @cassandra, @InnerCynic

    Addendum to my earlier post: I found a link this morning that documents my concerns more thoroughly:
    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/unvaccinated-discrimination/

    What has our society become, when social castigation has replaced informed discourse to resolve questions in the public intellectual marketplace?

  • @Rahan
    @InnerCynic


    As people have sarcastically said elsewhere… it’s the “holo-cough”
     
    I'll raise you one Bischvetz.

    https://imgpile.com/images/NWV7dW.jpg

    Replies: @InnerCynic, @cassandra, @Insouciant, @Skeptikal

    Indeed: while there may be lunatic anti-vaxxers, there are also fanatically indoctrinated pro-vaxxers. Data from Israel seems to indicate that the Pfizer vaccine, at least, has reduced efficacy against the Delta variant, and this is the sort of outcome Geert Vanden Bosch had anticipated.

    Rather than take a closer look at the possibility that the mRNA approach might be a long-term failure, there’s a misdirection campaign, that somehow evil, irresponsible unvaccinateds are the ones really responsible for all the breakouts and rise in cases and deaths.

    This attitude is both scientifically and politically toxic. Emotional anti-vaxxers might harbor excessive values of righteous anger against corporations for pharmaceutical deception, but shoot-me-ups are promoting outright hatred of their fellow-citizens, and practically advocating witch-burnings.

    Where do I get my yellow star?

    • Agree: Wild Man
    • Replies: @cassandra
    @cassandra

    Addendum to my earlier post: I found a link this morning that documents my concerns more thoroughly:
    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/unvaccinated-discrimination/

    What has our society become, when social castigation has replaced informed discourse to resolve questions in the public intellectual marketplace?

    , @InnerCynic
    @cassandra

    Make it a yellow "corona" virus or a dripping syringe

  • August 12, 2021. History will register it as the day the Taliban, nearly 20 years after 9/11 and the subsequent toppling of their 1996-2001 reign by American bombing, struck the decisive blow against the central government in Kabul. In a coordinated blitzkrieg, the Taliban all but captured three crucial hubs: Ghazni and Kandahar in the...
  • @Unit472
    There are still some foreign airlines flying out of Hamid Karzai Airport (before its name is changed) Mostly going to Istanbul or some neighboring Stan and charging top dollar for a seat. Afghan airlines still flying out ( whether they'll offer return flights is another matter). I would think fuel supplies will either run out or be stolen by corrupt Afghans.

    This is going to be epic. An Irwin Allen scale disaster movie. 4 million thieves, war profiteers and corrupt Afghan government officials with no way out about to be overrun by a horde of stinking, illiterate brutes with AK-47s. Once the killing starts there'll be no stopping it so I hope some neutral TV crews will be their to document it.

    Replies: @Arthur MacBride, @BorisMay, @cassandra

    Mostly going to Istanbul or some neighboring Stan and charging top dollar for a seat. Afghan airlines still flying out ( whether they’ll offer return flights is another matter). I would think fuel supplies will either run out or be stolen by corrupt Afghans.

    Since American arms will soon be unavailable to supply the black market from within Afghanistan, the profiteers are having to travel outside to establish ASAP new suppliers, so arms flow to their Taliban customers won’t be interrupted.

  • @Francis Miville
    @El Dato

    There won't be a blood bath : about 100 pedophiles will be thrown down from buildings, about 100 opium-trafficking LGBT will have their throat slit, about 100 big GI-loving whores will be stoned, and that will be it. They will be busy getting rich with the difference being that they will also try to make the whole country richer, mostly by still growing the poppies but calling Chinese Big pharma to build plants to make it into legal drugs : that's perfectly Hallal : as long as it is medical or supposedly so any drug is OK, and selling it to infidels to destroy them is also OK. They will install solar panels and send their best students study in the US.

    Replies: @cassandra

    They will install solar panels and send their best students study in the US.

    Given the declining state of American universities, and the upcoming quality of the Chinese, Afghan students might prefer China. Learning Mandarin and making Chinese connections might be better long-term business investments fo Afghanis.

    As for solar panels, the example of performance of the American electrical grid might affect decisions there as well.

  • The Empire of Chaos could never be accused of deploying Sun Tzu subtlety. Especially when it comes to dealing with the satrapies. In the case of Brazil, former BRICS stalwart reduced to the status of a proto-neo-colony under an aspiring Soprano-style “captain”, the Men Who Run the Show applied standard procedure. First they sent the...
  • @Lokke
    The current Brazilian scenario is extremely volatile and confusing, and few people understand what really is going on behind the scenes.

    Up until Bolsonaro's election in 2018, Brazilian media was reasonably moderate and didn't really actively campaign either for or against him. There seemed to be a general anti-leftist, pro-western consensus though, and the worker's party (which the author seems to be fond of) was seen as a criminal internationalist cabal (which they are) with connections to the FARC and numerous Brazilian criminal gangs. So, the media and the establishment have accepted Bolsonaro as an inevitability and the only thing standing between Brazil and the abyss, despite, as the liberal urbanites that they are, not being even remotely enthusiastic about him.

    After the start of the Bolsonaro presidency, the Media turned sharply and radically to the left - especially the globalist media empire Globo - Brazil's version of CNN, only much more powerful and quasi-monopolistic. Upon the arrival of COVID, anti-Bolsonaro propaganda has been dialed up to the extreme, and even for US standards Brazilian media now sounds cartoonishly paranoid and propagandistic about anything remotely "right-wing" or "bolsonarista". This metamorphosis of the Brazilian press is a surreal thing to see. It's now CNBC on steroids.

    More significantly though, Bolsonaro has lost control over his own government. The president was rendered powerless by the supreme court in an obvious power coup, and COVID Lockdowns were conducted independently from the federal government by the mostly neoliberal state Governors (with fanatical support from the media). The vast majority of right-wing government ministers were subsequently subjected to smear campaigns and gradually replaced by neoliberals on board with the globalist agenda. Bolsonaro's government has effectively already ended, and your standard milketoast pro-globalist neoliberals now run the country.

    Identity politics, previously almost unknown and widely ridiculed in Brazil, was suddenly propelled into the mainstream, and far-left radicals are now not only given a pass but actively promoted. Brazilian society is heavily media-driven, and the climate on both the legacy media and on social media have suddenly started to resemble a far-left echo chamber of AOC fans. Funnily enough, this sharp left-wing turn was accompanied by an intensification of the Americanization of Brazilian culture, and I'd say that Brazilian youth culture is, at this point, indistinguishable from American youth culture. So, to say that this left-wing turn is anti-American is to ignore the total supremacy of American culture and talking points among the Brazilian left. Ironically enough, Bolsonaro now seems LESS "Americanized" than the entirety of the left.

    This shift in the establishment's attitude culminated with Lula's criminal convictions being made void. Is it unclear if this move has had the support of the pro-US Globalist media empire and of Brazilian financial elites, or if the majority-leftist, pro-China supreme court (most ministers were appointed by Lula and Dilma and many have ties to leftist bolivarian organizations) has really gone rogue and decided to stage their own coup. What IS clear though, is that the establishment, both its pro-US AND its leftist factions, wants to get rid of Bolsonaro at any cost, and that to achieve this they are ready to tolerate the prospect of a second (and almost certainly short and disastrous) Lula presidency. The only power groups still unambiguously backing Bolsonaro are the military and the Agricultural sector, as well as the grassroots urban middle class and shopowners decimated by the criminal COVID-Lockdowns.

    Where does the US stand in all of this? It is not clear, not for me, not for the author, not for anyone. A significant sector of the Brazilian establishment is bolivarian-style leftist, and wishes to weaken ties to the West and pursue a third-worldist foreign policy. Financial elites seem divided, unlike in 2018. A section of the financial elite has clearly embraced China and even Lula himself. Another sector tends towards Americanism, and would prefer a woke-ish third-way option, with Bolsonaro being the second choice. The globalist, woke and pro-US media empire Globo clearly prefers Lula over Bolsonaro, but would rather have a third-party option spring up.

    Replies: @Dandy, @cassandra, @Brazilian reader

    Identity politics, previously almost unknown and widely ridiculed in Brazil, was suddenly propelled into the mainstream, and far-left radicals are now not only given a pass but actively promoted. Brazilian society is heavily media-driven, and the climate on both the legacy media and on social media have suddenly started to resemble a far-left echo chamber of AOC fans. Funnily enough, this sharp left-wing turn was accompanied by an intensification of the Americanization of Brazilian culture, and I’d say that Brazilian youth culture is, at this point, indistinguishable from American youth culture.

    This sounds remarkably similar to the politics-by-psychosis that has taken over in America, right down to imposition of disney-cultural values. Just wondering, has the level of demonization of opposition and imposition of censorship taken over in Brazil as it has in the US?

  • Question 1-- Your views on the Coronavirus and Covid vaccine are very different than those of Unz Review writers, like Paul Craig Roberts, CJ Hopkins, Israel Shamir and myself. In your estimation, what are the main areas of disagreement and why do you think your analysis is more probable than theirs? Ron Unz-- I'd also...
  • @Ron Unz
    @cassandra


    1. Why would you devote a 9000 word interview to a topic in which you have “absolutely no interest”?
     
    I though I'd already explained earlier. Hordes of anti-vaxxers had begun descending upon this website a few months ago, probably because some of my regular columnists had begun running anti-vaxx articles. As a result, those same anti-vaxxers began cluttering up the comment-threads of other articles, including my own, that had absolutely no connection to vaxxing. So I told them to get lost and had their off-topic comments trashed to drive them away, telling them they were all a bunch of nuts, and saying the same thing, somewhat more politely, to my anti-vaxx columnists.

    Mike Whitney, who's very strongly in the anti-vaxx camp, was disturbed at my views and suggested he do a Q&A with me to thrash things out, and I said I'd be glad to do that.

    When I write my own articles, especially the long ones that run 9,000 words or more, they require an enormous amount of reading and thought, and usually take weeks of sustained effort. But with the Q&A I didn't bother with any of that, but just replied straight away to his questions. The whole thing only took me a few hours, and now gives me a perfect excuse to henceforth trash all the off-topic anti-vaxx comments everywhere else.

    If you don't like that, go away to LifesiteNews or Off-Guardian or whatever other anti-vaxx websites are out there.

    I get the impression that lots of other websites with stricter moderation standards automatically trash all anti-vaxx comments these days, which is why they don't get inundated with this nonsense.

    Replies: @JLK, @Triteleia Laxa, @Raches, @cassandra

    Thank you for the reply; I do appreciate a little bit what you were/are trying to manage. However, a subject with such a broad scope as this one isn’t likely to be settled easily, and attempts may backfire. You sound beleagured, and I can’t pretend to understand the pressures you’re under. But you should understand how some of us find your comments discordant.

    An article published here early last year by Pepe Escobar laid out most of what is objectionable in the approach to COVID by Western institional medicine. The corrupting political machinations go a long way toward explaining my skepticism of the TINA arguments that mRNA is the best “cure:”
    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/why-france-is-hiding-a-cheap-and-tested-virus-cure/?

    The subsequent development of the COVID drama onto the vaccine stage has only instantiated and clarified on a global scale the events described in this French microcosm. I think many CDC skeptics view the political scene from this prism, and would prefer a health strategy with more established, and trustworthy, safety records than mRNA. (As an off-the-cuff fantasy, I’d most prefer a “conventional” vaccine, one capable of giving an inoculum of COVID small enough for only a minor infection.)

    But your argument at the end came as an especially great surprise. The rhetoric of this latter section appeals to consensus and demonizes dissidents, and includes liberal use of guilt by association. In fact, this part of the interview could be taken as a textbook example of argument from “Ash Conformity”, a style very alien to your usual astute precision. Coming from the author of your American Pravda series, this is an anomalous departure from your normally impeccable intellectual standards.

    I do appreciate what you say about a much time and effort being necessary to organize one’s thoughts, even to explain them to oneself. So I hope this article simply represents a reflexive swat an annoying gadflly.

    If your attitude changes from wanting to do less of this to accepting more, may I suggest you invite the FLCCC to submit an article. While not being anti-vaxxers themselves, I’m sure they could articulate the situation better than most, in a way interesting, and genuinely informative, to you and your readers.
    .

  • @Mevashir
    @cassandra


    Was this conflict of interest a betrayal of my principles? I answer that by explaining that I’m hedging my emotions. If by some fortunate chance, effective reform causes pharma stocks to decline, I can be happy with the political result despite the economic hit. If, as I expect, pharma continues to have its way, this carbuncle on the butt of the beast will share in its good (and massive) economic fortune.
     
    Thanks for explaining. You're unusually candid.

    Unfortunately you might be overlooking karma. Do you really think you can enjoy "good fortune" deriving from what some here are claiming is a sophisticated mass murder operation?

    NOTE to Seeker: daughter of Fr Bernstein is an iconographer:

    https://www.facebook.com/people/Arnold-Bernstein/831768674/
    http://www.heathersommericons.com/
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vtmS5K2LAtA/X9v-dxV6jpI/AAAAAAABFhQ/J4OTZheKBMIymiZFsFLIYLM67bzPchXIgCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h480/PXL_20201217_230536707.jpg

    Replies: @cassandra

    Do you really think you can enjoy “good fortune” deriving from what some here are claiming is a sophisticated mass murder operation?

    For the past 30 years, I’ve been staring the devil in they eye, watching an agenda of destruction turn the West into simultaneously outraged, ashamed, terrorized, and self-loathing people, learning to hate and despise the noblest achievements of our humanity, and each other.

    All that’s left is dark humor.

    But some day I might let you know how I really feel.

    • Agree: Mehen
    • Thanks: Bugey libre
  • @cassandra
    @Simon wagstaff


    He said approximately 2,000 deaths in a population of 220 million. That’s about the same number as the province I live in… population 6 million.., why the difference… almost everyone in Nigeria takes ivermectin for parasites or HCQ for malaria…nothing to see here citizen, move along now.
     
    Thank you. The West has jumped the shark in a curious way: it has come to prioritize glamor over elegance.

    A committment to high-tech has set in, to the point where low-tech solutions are rejected simply because they don't have enough glamor (= technical coolness + $$$). Of course, pandemeic profiteering, regulatory capture and cronyism are the mechanisms behind this phenomenon in the case of COVID, but the upshot is, the developing world is where the best advances in COVID treatment have occurred, precisely because that part of the globe is still free to investigate low-technology solutions. Even how the research is done differs.

    In the West, the most respected solutions come from centralized government-funded Big Science, carried out by elite scientists whose motivations are often if not usually fame and financial opportunity (e.g., Fauci). The mass of medical practitioers simply turn the crank to implement CDC and WHO diktats.

    Outside the West, research and decision-making are distributed. The discoveries of the efficacy of HCQ, and especially Ivermectin, arguably qualify as brilliant. But this work was done to a large extent by doctors concerned more about the status of their patients (along with heroic frontline physicians in the West willing to face opprobrium), whose primary resources are their own own wit, common sense, and internet access.

    "What should we do about a cure for COVID?"

    The West: "We have this super-cool technology that lets us encapsulate genetic materials in a nanolipid in such a way that we can get cellular genetic process to create antibodies! By the way, we really must do something to discourage those crackpots using aquarium cleaner and de-worming medicine. Some people will try anything." A recipe for ego-driven bias, corruption and censorship.

    Asia/Africa: "Fauci and friends in those super labs in the USA, in the early 2000's, found out that a malaria medicine chloroquine did a job on SARS. I dunno, it's cheap and safe enough, maybe we should try it out on COVID and see if we can tweak it." So simple, so to-the-point, so elegant.

    One of the less frequently-disussed scientific western developments is propaganda, which has reached such a level of perfection that it has not simply corrupted critical thinking itself, but has managed to implement censorship and group-think at a level which subverts science itself. For this reason, the ability ot practice reason has moved to the East and South where institutional control of public opinion hasn't yet stifled reason.

    Replies: @BaronAsh, @Simon wagstaff, @Corvinus

    Another aspect:
    IF it were established that HCQ + Zinc, Ivermectin or other widely available therapeutics were available, the new shots (they are not ‘vaccines’) wouldn’t qualify for Emergency Use authorization which they needed in order to be able to manufacture and distribute these things.

    Second: the assumption is that all these companies have the end user’s benefit in mind even though Pfizer, for example, has a long track record of falsifying, selling bad medicine and so forth. What if the reason they want everyone to have the vaccine has nothing to do with curing covid? Do we know what’s in the vaccines? No, it’s a private sector secret. Do we know their after-effects? No, there is no disciplined, rigourous post-shot reporting method.

    The whole thing is a huge sh*t show from beginning to end. They suppress information about viable therapeutics – which would make any notion of their being a ‘pandemic’ entirely superfluous, shut down schools and the private small business sector ruthlessly, cause untold suffering, illness and death by suspending normal medical and other needed cultural services, and yet people like Ron Unz here – whom I greatly respect – just overlook all these glaring anomalies, indeed crimes – and just buy into the whole ‘this is a pandemic and the only way out is to do what Big Pharma and Big Government (controlled by Big Intelligence and Big Banksters) tell us.

    As Trump might tweet: “Sad!”

    • Agree: Skip Scott, cassandra
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @BaronAsh


    Do we know what’s in the vaccines? No, it’s a private sector secret.
     
    We can judge the quality of the rest of your posting by this single lie. It's listed in the Recepients and Caregivers info here, and for the very simple mRNA vaccines, confirmed by analysis of the dregs left over in vials after use. A virus vector vaccine is not necessarily grad student 101 lab material, but is also not that hard to analyze and compare to known sequences of the wild type (WT) virus and the spliced in sequence coding for a stabilized spike protein.

    Replies: @MGB, @Erebus

    , @MGB
    @BaronAsh


    Do we know their after-effects? No, there is no disciplined, rigorous post-shot reporting method.
     
    And we don't even know what they do, from the positive perspective, which is the entirety of the sales pitch to begin with. Tal Zaks, chief medical officer for Moderna, acknowledged that they have no idea if their drug drug even prevents transmission of the virus, for example. The studies needed to figure this out would take too long and cost too much, and they gotta save lives now!
  • @Mevashir
    @cassandra

    Follow the $$$sss



    https://www.unz.com/article/blacks-books-and-bedlam-what-jews-did-to-south-africa-theyre-now-doing-to-america/#comment-4825278
    In the interest of full disclosure, could you confirm to us whether your hedge funds do have major holdings in the pharmaceutical industry and perhaps this is why you refuse to be a COVAXX skeptic?

     

    Replies: @cassandra

    I suppose I should be reticent myself. I’ve been depressingly aware of Big Pharma corruption since at least the 90’s. Around that time, I also realized that the medical industry would expand as the boomers aged. So I trickled some contributions into health care equities which have done quite well, thank you.

    Was this conflict of interest a betrayal of my principles? I answer that by explaining that I’m hedging my emotions. If by some fortunate chance, effective reform causes pharma stocks to decline, I can be happy with the political result despite the economic hit. If, as I expect, pharma continues to have its way, this carbuncle on the butt of the beast will share in its good (and massive) economic fortune.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    @cassandra


    Was this conflict of interest a betrayal of my principles? I answer that by explaining that I’m hedging my emotions. If by some fortunate chance, effective reform causes pharma stocks to decline, I can be happy with the political result despite the economic hit. If, as I expect, pharma continues to have its way, this carbuncle on the butt of the beast will share in its good (and massive) economic fortune.
     
    Thanks for explaining. You're unusually candid.

    Unfortunately you might be overlooking karma. Do you really think you can enjoy "good fortune" deriving from what some here are claiming is a sophisticated mass murder operation?

    NOTE to Seeker: daughter of Fr Bernstein is an iconographer:

    https://www.facebook.com/people/Arnold-Bernstein/831768674/
    http://www.heathersommericons.com/
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vtmS5K2LAtA/X9v-dxV6jpI/AAAAAAABFhQ/J4OTZheKBMIymiZFsFLIYLM67bzPchXIgCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h480/PXL_20201217_230536707.jpg

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Truth Vigilante
    @lysias

    You wrote:


    'Obviously, there’s no limit to the variants that will appear'.
     
    Good call.

    The PTSB (Powers That Shouldn't Be) have already set aside the following variants, which will be used in the years to come to traumatise yet more gullible double-jabbers and ensure lockdowns off and on (coupled with societal financial and psychological impoverishment) for the next decade or more:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Gamma_variant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Kappa_variant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Eta_variant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Theta_variant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Zeta_variant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Iota_variant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Epsilon_variant

    and .....

    let's not forget the Lambda variant which many of you will be recall that the corrupt MSM alleges came from Peru (although I suspect that Fort Detrick in Maryland is a more likely candidate).

    It's not been made public yet but, seeing as Pi is a letter of the Greek alphabet, I wouldn't be surprised if the Covid cabal perpetrators 'anglicised' it down the track and alleged there was a 'Pie' variant - which no doubt they'll claim was sourced from apple pies (hence the need to close down all bakeries and pastry shops throughout the land and make their proprietors destitute as well).

    Replies: @cassandra

    Concidentally, just last week, Dr. Paul Marik of the FLCCC discussed this in the FLCCC weekly video:

    https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/flccc-weekly-update-28-july-2021-covid:6

    at about the 10:45 mark. He quotes a figure of 3913 “major representative variants”, although he whittles that down to only 41 of the 403 possible in the spike receptor binding domain that are “critical for protein interactions.”

    Alas, although Paul Marek’s comments are generally data-driven, I just viewed this video yesterday and I haven’t had a chance to source these statements and dig into them further. On the other hand…

    …three-thousand, schmee-thousand; who’s counting?

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  • @Ron Unz
    @Sparkylyle92


    I notice there is no debate or engagement with us “crackpots”, only argument from authority, and even that unattributed. I’m embarrassed for Ron.
     
    What I tried to make very clear in my Q&A responses is that I have absolutely no interest in the vaxxing issue. I haven't bothered looking into it, and I don't intend to do so in the future. That's why I'm not "engaging" with people like you.

    Maybe the vaccines are more dangerous than the MSM claims? Who knows?

    What I do know is that many or most of the anti-vaxxers seem like total raving lunatics, so why should I bother paying any attention to whatever they say?

    For example, just a couple of months ago one of the leading anti-vaxxers I know was trying to persuade me that the Covid vaccines were a diabolical plot by Bill Gates to exterminate most of the human race. This is not a joke.

    Just in the last week or so, another anti-vaxx writer claimed that hundreds of thousands(!!!) of Americans had already died from the vaccines, but the MSM was covering it all up.

    And this is what some of the leading anti-vaxx writers publicly believe, so I shudder to think what goes on in the heads of the anonymous commenters on this thread.

    Plus lots of the anti-vaxxers had previously been Flu Hoaxers, claiming that Covid wasn't dangerous and it was "just the flu."

    I'm busy with my own work and if people who've been 100% wrong about other important things in the recent past are trying to persuade me that Martians have seized Los Angeles, I won't bother investigating their claims.

    Replies: @Sparkylyle92, @Raches, @Truth Vigilante, @cassandra

    What I tried to make very clear in my Q&A responses is that I have absolutely no interest in the vaxxing issue. I haven’t bothered looking into it, and I don’t intend to do so in the future. That’s why I’m not “engaging” with people like you.

    What a curious comment! (At least) three points reeking of an atypical intellectual inconsistency leap out:

    1. Why would you devote a 9000 word interview to a topic in which you have “absolutely no interest”?

    2. Until now, I’ve never heard you comment at such length on a subject that “I haven’t bothered looking into”.

    3. Surely you’ve run across many explanations while writing your American Pravda series that are even more outlandish that the ones you invoke here. Yet you construct an argument against ALL mRNA skepticism based guilt by association. This is strange on multiple levels: you know better.

    “I shudder to think what goes on the head” of a formerly impeccably objective intellectual figure who displays such inconstent behavior so suddenly.

    I hope you understand why some of your readers might be sincerely puzzled, and that you at least see how the human tendency to explain the inexplicable might lead people to come up with all sorts of reasons on all sorts of topics. In science, that’s called hypothesizing, and scientists (at least formerly) weren’t condemned for entertaining hypotheses impossibly strange to those who “haven’t bothered looking into it.” Information and imagination expand the evidence base. Analysis, synthesis and falsification bring what we know into focus. Reason is what keeps us on track, not censorship and rhetoric.

    • Agree: Mehen
    • LOL: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    @cassandra

    Follow the $$$sss



    https://www.unz.com/article/blacks-books-and-bedlam-what-jews-did-to-south-africa-theyre-now-doing-to-america/#comment-4825278
    In the interest of full disclosure, could you confirm to us whether your hedge funds do have major holdings in the pharmaceutical industry and perhaps this is why you refuse to be a COVAXX skeptic?

     

    Replies: @cassandra

    , @Ron Unz
    @cassandra


    1. Why would you devote a 9000 word interview to a topic in which you have “absolutely no interest”?
     
    I though I'd already explained earlier. Hordes of anti-vaxxers had begun descending upon this website a few months ago, probably because some of my regular columnists had begun running anti-vaxx articles. As a result, those same anti-vaxxers began cluttering up the comment-threads of other articles, including my own, that had absolutely no connection to vaxxing. So I told them to get lost and had their off-topic comments trashed to drive them away, telling them they were all a bunch of nuts, and saying the same thing, somewhat more politely, to my anti-vaxx columnists.

    Mike Whitney, who's very strongly in the anti-vaxx camp, was disturbed at my views and suggested he do a Q&A with me to thrash things out, and I said I'd be glad to do that.

    When I write my own articles, especially the long ones that run 9,000 words or more, they require an enormous amount of reading and thought, and usually take weeks of sustained effort. But with the Q&A I didn't bother with any of that, but just replied straight away to his questions. The whole thing only took me a few hours, and now gives me a perfect excuse to henceforth trash all the off-topic anti-vaxx comments everywhere else.

    If you don't like that, go away to LifesiteNews or Off-Guardian or whatever other anti-vaxx websites are out there.

    I get the impression that lots of other websites with stricter moderation standards automatically trash all anti-vaxx comments these days, which is why they don't get inundated with this nonsense.

    Replies: @JLK, @Triteleia Laxa, @Raches, @cassandra

  • @durd
    @Ron Unz

    With a mainstream academic the correct word for anti-vaxxer would be vaccine hesitant.

    I didn't see something funny about 9/11 till 2005. Give your buddy some time.

    Replies: @Wild Man, @cassandra

    Very fair point. Ron himself has given several examples of where he has undergone this process himself. This one comes to mind:
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/?highlight=ksrael+shahak

  • @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "You continue to miss my point: I supplied the link not as a proof that I myself think that Abramson is necessarily wrong, but to provide an example of someone who does not see Abramson as an authority, so that not everyone accepts him as do you."

    But if you are providing that source, assuredly you have an opinion on Abramson. I would imagine you read the link you provided and developed at the very least a rudimentary idea on what was said and how it was said. To the contrary, I do not expect everyone to view Abramson how I see him. But I certainly am curious as the opinion one has of his work and his authority. What is your perspective? Moreover, GetAClue's statement was an over the top generalization, would you not agree?

    "Consequently, to cite Abramson is an authority, as if what he says is true, is to accept these premises uncritcally."

    Not unless I have read his work, as well as critiques of his work, and came to the conclusion his premises are rooted in sound logic and reason based on facts. Of course, it does mean I take everything he says at face value, as I remain steadfast to vet what he, and others, say.

    "Actually, accepting Abramson or anyone else as as an authority, in the sense of one whose word should be accepted carte-blanche, leaves critical thinking at the door."

    That would be a strawman on your part, as I never stated directly or indirectly that one must accept his work in unadulterated fashion.

    Now, you made the statement on a different threat that "the discoveries of the efficacy of HCQ, and especially Ivermectin, arguably qualify as brilliant". Yet, to me, there was scant effort on your part to offer specific proof to support your assertion. That is why one provides citations and sources besides analytic commentary, as it bolsters one's argument through their inductive and deductive reasoning.

    "Instead of throwing out an author’s name, restate his specific argument that you believe makes your point."

    That is what I exactly have done in Comment 946. Do you have any thoughts or observations on the matter at hand?

    Replies: @cassandra

    But if you are providing that source, assuredly you have an opinion on Abramson.

    Not at all. I found the dissenter doing a cursory search on Abramson because I wasn’t familiar with him, and because you expressed such high praise. I did acquire an opinion on your opinion.

    As for this,

    That would be a strawman on your part, as I never stated directly or indirectly that one must accept his work in unadulterated fashion.

    ,
    Well, if I misconstrued your intent to invoke A as an expert witness, please accept my apologies.

    Indeed, Abramson is an authority on this matter.

    I suggest you read Seth Abramson and his monumental work on this topic. Fact checked and fully sourced.

    I can’t imagine how I got the impression you criticized, directly or indirectly.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "I can’t imagine how I got the impression you criticized, directly or indirectly."

    So, you do have an opinion on his work, after all. Feel free to reveal it in more detail rather than play coy. I would think someone like Abramson who fact checks and employs sources to back up his statements is in your wheelhouse as an alleged critical thinker.

  • @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "Well, I guess things are tough all over. I explained to you that citing someone’s opinion is an argument from authority in the hopes of getting you to think more criticall, too, and that didn’t do much good either."

    GetAClue's opinion was an over the top generalization, would you not agree? You would think an alleged critical thinker herself would offer their own insight when asked.

    Regarding the "Russian Hoax"...


    Mueller said explicitly that he did not exonerate Trump as to any collusion. Mueller was also not even consulted when Barr crafted his letter. Moreover, Mueller had narrowly defined collusion not just as “conspiracy” but only one narrow part of conspiracy (with the IRA and/or Russian hackers). We need to know what evidence Mueller had that led him to be unable to exonerate Trump on that specific allegation. Mueller found evidence, just not enough to indict.

    Releasing the Mueller report to Congress is the only option. For two years, scores of investigative reporters and independent journalists, along with Mueller, has culled evidence that Trump traded American foreign policy for money. Ee-Attorney General Barr’s summary of a report that does NOT even relate to that accusation. The campaign did not collude in election hacking, It colluded to advance Trump business interests, evident by his associates being brought to justice in that vein.

    So what we have here is a four page summary, rather than the entire report, that only glosses over the details. Trump was not vindicated on collusion. “No collusion” means only that Mueller did not have “beyond a reasonable doubt” evidence of a criminal conspiracy. As to obstruction, Mueller was NOT consulted by his boss as to what Barr interpreted on what he thinks was found. “No collusion” would be “exoneration”. The report says “no exoneration” and that evidence of criminality existed but not at the 90 percent level—criminal indictment.

    As to collusion, it continues to be properly investigated—not in the narrow way Trump demanded and apparently Mueller’s team acceded to—in multiple other federal jurisdictions and the inability to indict on the investigated collusion is not an inability to impeach. Besides, over 400 detailed pages is important here for insight and context. If 90% or more proof of conspiracy—a narrow vein of collusion that excludes many criminal collusive acts currently being investigated—is what is required to convict someone (and under Department of Justice Regulations to indict them in the first instance), what percent proof establishes them as a national security threat?
     
    Regarding "Mainslime News"...

    News today is driven by a desired narrative, moreso than in decades past. You have the left and the right who craft a story based on facts, with each side serving as a political evangelical to promote their interpretation. There are truths found here. Unfortunately, segments of our society has been conditioned by social media “sensations”, reality television “stars”, and ratings driven media conglomerates to reject evidence that challenges their beliefs. They do it instinctively when confronted with attitude-inconsistent information. When someone attempts to inform them of their misconceptions, rather than take it under advisement, it “backfires”, which in effect makes them less skeptical of what they believe in, since obviously the other side is rife with their own false impressions. Thus, one continues to see their own position as “true and proper”. Of course, the argument stems from what is and what is not a misconception, whether it be “race realism” or “white privilege”, which ends up being a feedback loop.

    For example, consider this exchange on 60 Minutes from a while back.

    Mike Cernovich--"How do you know Hillary had pneumonia?"
    Scott Pelley--"The campaign said so."
    Mike Cernovich--”Why do you believe in the campaign?”

    On one hand, it is absolutely legitimate for Cernovich to question Pelley on why he is certain about Hillary’s medical problem. Pelley is taking her word at face value. On the other hand, Cernovich is ASSUMING he knows for sure her health issues, and that any answer to the contrary automatically leads to his desired conclusion--the media is covering something up.

    Imagine if Pelley responded “Two independent doctors confirmed she has pneumonia”. Cervonich could have replied, and it is within the realm of possibility given his personality, “Well, they are in her hip pocket. She paid for their diagnosis. See, I do not have to prove that she suffers from seizures, you have to show she does not suffer from seizures”. Wayne Gale, the reporter in Natural Born Killers (1994) played by Robert Downey, Jr. demonstrates how modern journalism has evolved. The playbook implemented by Cernovich (and Keith Olbermann) pay homage to his tactics.

    It is virtually impossible to argue with those people who cling on this “Fake News” or “media lies” meme. Any fact you bring as an argument, they immediately attack the SOURCE, rather than the substance. Thus, it is easy to deny there is ANY evidence at all. This phenomenon has been brewing for a long time, and it has reached a critical mass at our point in world history. Unfortunately, this leads more people to become ignorant by facilitating echo chambers and confirmation bias. Rather than yell at the top of one’s lungs “Fake News” when they read a mainstream or alternative media story, and immediately discount everything, people ought look CRITICALLY at the facts, consider any bias, read other sources on the issue, and then draw their own conclusions, realizing that those conclusions will require verification from valid sources when challenged.
     
    "Whether you think that Abramson is an aurhoity, and someone else doesn’t, and whether I even care about the man and his critics is NOT germaine to a critical analysis of the point of your objection. You’re trying to drag Abramson into this when no one else here cares."

    To the contrary, it is most germane given you supplied a link that attempted to discredit Abramson's work. The relevance of this fact should be obvious to a critical thinker. It is clear you have an opinion about him. So what is your specific objection?

    Replies: @cassandra

    To the contrary, it is most germane given you supplied a link that attempted to discredit Abramson’s work. The relevance of this fact should be obvious to a critical thinker. It is clear you have an opinion about him. So what is your specific objection?

    You continue to miss my point: I supplied the link not as a proof that I myself think that Abramson is necessarily wrong, but to provide an example of someone who does not see Abramson as an authority, so that not everyone accepts him as do you. Consequently, to cite Abramson is an authority, as if what he says is true, is to accept these premises uncritcally.

    The fact that you do is inconsistent with your self-image as a critical thinker. Actually, accepting Abramson or anyone else as as an authority, in the sense of one whose word should be accepted carte-blanche, leaves critical thinking at the door.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "You continue to miss my point: I supplied the link not as a proof that I myself think that Abramson is necessarily wrong, but to provide an example of someone who does not see Abramson as an authority, so that not everyone accepts him as do you."

    But if you are providing that source, assuredly you have an opinion on Abramson. I would imagine you read the link you provided and developed at the very least a rudimentary idea on what was said and how it was said. To the contrary, I do not expect everyone to view Abramson how I see him. But I certainly am curious as the opinion one has of his work and his authority. What is your perspective? Moreover, GetAClue's statement was an over the top generalization, would you not agree?

    "Consequently, to cite Abramson is an authority, as if what he says is true, is to accept these premises uncritcally."

    Not unless I have read his work, as well as critiques of his work, and came to the conclusion his premises are rooted in sound logic and reason based on facts. Of course, it does mean I take everything he says at face value, as I remain steadfast to vet what he, and others, say.

    "Actually, accepting Abramson or anyone else as as an authority, in the sense of one whose word should be accepted carte-blanche, leaves critical thinking at the door."

    That would be a strawman on your part, as I never stated directly or indirectly that one must accept his work in unadulterated fashion.

    Now, you made the statement on a different threat that "the discoveries of the efficacy of HCQ, and especially Ivermectin, arguably qualify as brilliant". Yet, to me, there was scant effort on your part to offer specific proof to support your assertion. That is why one provides citations and sources besides analytic commentary, as it bolsters one's argument through their inductive and deductive reasoning.

    "Instead of throwing out an author’s name, restate his specific argument that you believe makes your point."

    That is what I exactly have done in Comment 946. Do you have any thoughts or observations on the matter at hand?

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Mehen
    @cassandra


    His attitude during the interview is incongruous to his general penchant for open invetsigation. I hope his neglect of pharmacological angles is only because he hasn’t actually looked into it seriously. I really don’t want to have to try to explain it if it’s something else.
     
    It does kind of give you a sinking feeling in your stomach when you contemplate that latter possibility, doesn’t it?

    On the other hand, perhaps it was the dulcet tones of Neil Diamond being played by Nero while Rome burned.

    Replies: @cassandra

    On the other hand, perhaps it was the dulcet tones of Neil Diamond being played by Nero while Rome burned.

    If any publicity is good publicity, then the image of Ron Unz strutting down the street in rhythm with Solitary Man is the kind of ineradicably incongruous and unforgettable image that advertising agencies dream about. Honestly, that’s not the most eccentric nor worst of habits.

    But yes, when something “gives you that sinking feeling” you have to wonder whether benign explanations are ignoring less pleasant possibilities. From this conflict are born the “conspiracy theories” which some few entertain, which many would prefer not to contemplate, and which yet others would prefer to censor.

    What a mess.

    • LOL: Mehen
    • Replies: @Mehen
    @cassandra

    Beautifully stated, love.

    I do believe many of us are digesting all sorts of things at the moment.

    Who can say what we end up shitting out (figuratively speaking, of course)

  • @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    I offered a recommendation to GetAClue in hopes to spur him to critically think about the topic. Would you not agree that his statement "Likewise years of lying 24/7 by the Mainslime Media as to “Russia Collusion” fraud/frame up conducted by the FBI and related criminals" is an over the top generalization?

    Indeed, Abramson is an authority on this matter. So, what exactly do you object to his work?

    Replies: @cassandra

    I offered a recommendation to GetAClue in hopes to spur him to critically think about the topic.

    Well, I guess things are tough all over. I explained to you that citing someone’s opinion is an argument from authority in the hopes of getting you to think more criticall, too, and that didn’t do much good either.

    Whether you think that Abramson is an aurhoity, and someone else doesn’t, and whether I even care about the man and his critics is NOT germaine to a critical analysis of the point of your objection. You’re trying to drag Abramson into this when no one else here cares.

    What is germaine are whatever arguments you can present to refute GetAClue’s point. Whether some outside party diagrees with that point, or whether yet someone else disagrees with the first someone, invites us into building a house of cards, consisting of one authority piled upon another, until the whole Tower of Babel collapses. The irrelevance of that sort of rhetorical device should be obvious to a critical thinker. Honestly, I’m beginning to have my doubts about your acumen.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "Well, I guess things are tough all over. I explained to you that citing someone’s opinion is an argument from authority in the hopes of getting you to think more criticall, too, and that didn’t do much good either."

    GetAClue's opinion was an over the top generalization, would you not agree? You would think an alleged critical thinker herself would offer their own insight when asked.

    Regarding the "Russian Hoax"...


    Mueller said explicitly that he did not exonerate Trump as to any collusion. Mueller was also not even consulted when Barr crafted his letter. Moreover, Mueller had narrowly defined collusion not just as “conspiracy” but only one narrow part of conspiracy (with the IRA and/or Russian hackers). We need to know what evidence Mueller had that led him to be unable to exonerate Trump on that specific allegation. Mueller found evidence, just not enough to indict.

    Releasing the Mueller report to Congress is the only option. For two years, scores of investigative reporters and independent journalists, along with Mueller, has culled evidence that Trump traded American foreign policy for money. Ee-Attorney General Barr’s summary of a report that does NOT even relate to that accusation. The campaign did not collude in election hacking, It colluded to advance Trump business interests, evident by his associates being brought to justice in that vein.

    So what we have here is a four page summary, rather than the entire report, that only glosses over the details. Trump was not vindicated on collusion. “No collusion” means only that Mueller did not have “beyond a reasonable doubt” evidence of a criminal conspiracy. As to obstruction, Mueller was NOT consulted by his boss as to what Barr interpreted on what he thinks was found. “No collusion” would be “exoneration”. The report says “no exoneration” and that evidence of criminality existed but not at the 90 percent level—criminal indictment.

    As to collusion, it continues to be properly investigated—not in the narrow way Trump demanded and apparently Mueller’s team acceded to—in multiple other federal jurisdictions and the inability to indict on the investigated collusion is not an inability to impeach. Besides, over 400 detailed pages is important here for insight and context. If 90% or more proof of conspiracy—a narrow vein of collusion that excludes many criminal collusive acts currently being investigated—is what is required to convict someone (and under Department of Justice Regulations to indict them in the first instance), what percent proof establishes them as a national security threat?
     
    Regarding "Mainslime News"...

    News today is driven by a desired narrative, moreso than in decades past. You have the left and the right who craft a story based on facts, with each side serving as a political evangelical to promote their interpretation. There are truths found here. Unfortunately, segments of our society has been conditioned by social media “sensations”, reality television “stars”, and ratings driven media conglomerates to reject evidence that challenges their beliefs. They do it instinctively when confronted with attitude-inconsistent information. When someone attempts to inform them of their misconceptions, rather than take it under advisement, it “backfires”, which in effect makes them less skeptical of what they believe in, since obviously the other side is rife with their own false impressions. Thus, one continues to see their own position as “true and proper”. Of course, the argument stems from what is and what is not a misconception, whether it be “race realism” or “white privilege”, which ends up being a feedback loop.

    For example, consider this exchange on 60 Minutes from a while back.

    Mike Cernovich--"How do you know Hillary had pneumonia?"
    Scott Pelley--"The campaign said so."
    Mike Cernovich--”Why do you believe in the campaign?”

    On one hand, it is absolutely legitimate for Cernovich to question Pelley on why he is certain about Hillary’s medical problem. Pelley is taking her word at face value. On the other hand, Cernovich is ASSUMING he knows for sure her health issues, and that any answer to the contrary automatically leads to his desired conclusion--the media is covering something up.

    Imagine if Pelley responded “Two independent doctors confirmed she has pneumonia”. Cervonich could have replied, and it is within the realm of possibility given his personality, “Well, they are in her hip pocket. She paid for their diagnosis. See, I do not have to prove that she suffers from seizures, you have to show she does not suffer from seizures”. Wayne Gale, the reporter in Natural Born Killers (1994) played by Robert Downey, Jr. demonstrates how modern journalism has evolved. The playbook implemented by Cernovich (and Keith Olbermann) pay homage to his tactics.

    It is virtually impossible to argue with those people who cling on this “Fake News” or “media lies” meme. Any fact you bring as an argument, they immediately attack the SOURCE, rather than the substance. Thus, it is easy to deny there is ANY evidence at all. This phenomenon has been brewing for a long time, and it has reached a critical mass at our point in world history. Unfortunately, this leads more people to become ignorant by facilitating echo chambers and confirmation bias. Rather than yell at the top of one’s lungs “Fake News” when they read a mainstream or alternative media story, and immediately discount everything, people ought look CRITICALLY at the facts, consider any bias, read other sources on the issue, and then draw their own conclusions, realizing that those conclusions will require verification from valid sources when challenged.
     
    "Whether you think that Abramson is an aurhoity, and someone else doesn’t, and whether I even care about the man and his critics is NOT germaine to a critical analysis of the point of your objection. You’re trying to drag Abramson into this when no one else here cares."

    To the contrary, it is most germane given you supplied a link that attempted to discredit Abramson's work. The relevance of this fact should be obvious to a critical thinker. It is clear you have an opinion about him. So what is your specific objection?

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Simon wagstaff
    @cassandra

    Thanks Cassandra. The problem is far worse in my view. If you investigate who any of the mislabeled- big pharma- firms really are you will discover they are really stalking horses for firms like Blackrock and Vanguard. As majority shareholders they control the Board of Directors and they directly or subtly determine who the C suite corporate officers are and thus directly influence corporate priorities. Through their related control of other public companies they significantly influence their coverage of the issues in media firms, or corporate vaccine mandates in other firms they have significant interests in. Significantly I believe they also have major interests in many private, defined benefit pension funds, which certainly have a multi- trillion dollar stake in folks dying prior to their “best before “ date.

    My original point though was how can the vaccine question be reasonably discussed without addressing the effectiveness of existing treatments which invalidate the emergency use authorization. Dr. Pierre Kory’s December testimony before the US Senate’s homeland security committee being censored by YouTube is a probably a good place to start.

    Replies: @Wild Man, @cassandra

    If you investigate who any of the mislabeled- big pharma- firms really are you will discover they are really stalking horses for firms like Blackrock and Vanguard. As majority shareholders they control the Board of Directors and they directly or subtly determine who the C suite corporate officers are and thus directly influence corporate priorities.

    Your comments make me nostalgic for the good ol’ days, simpler times, when it was still possible to dismiss as exaggerated speculation Alex Jones’ concerns, that high-level collusion might be taking place at Bilderberg meetings.

    What do you think of frogs boiling in the darkness as metaphor?

  • @Wild Man
    @Simon wagstaff

    Your first paragraph is bang-on, as far as I can tell. Yes - there indeed is an anti-true-west globalism at play here, ... and it's control methodology operates in the way you say, ..... top-down hierarchical control by money flow .... to publicly traded companies (or private enterprises before they go public), and as well, to key individual lever-pullers, personally.

    And it's not just narrative control over the covid-19/sars-cov-2/vaxxes topics that are at play here. This is only the latest so-bludgeoning, of the western dialectic upon which past western success has been largely based.

    Replies: @cassandra

    And it’s not just narrative control over the covid-19/sars-cov-2/vaxxes topics that are at play here. This is only the latest so-bludgeoning, of the western dialectic upon which past western success has been largely based.

    LOL! I’m having a hard time figuring out exactly what you’re so upset about here, but my own emotions in the matter are in 100% sync with yours, I think.

    There are so many dimensions to the “bludgeoning of the western dialectic”, wherein its very achievements have been turned to corrupt itself.

    Just to add another issue that hasn’t yet (?) been discussed in this blog: science has garnered a great deal of justifiable respect as a methodolgy that’s extremely helpful in arriving at natural truths. But propagandists have surgically isolated the respect surrounding this achievement, so that the word “science” as it appears in the “news” has come to represent a cultishly prescriptive ideology, that’s now fulfilling the same role for punishing dissidents as accusations of witchery or sorcery did in earlier times.

    Assertive propaganda has inserted its tentacles in all media: cable news, social media, much print media. Only particular viewpoints are promoted, and opposing voices are censored. Social pressure in the form af cancelling ones job or voice, or denigration (deniers, truthers, vaxxers, theorists) have turned the mainstream intellectual landscape into a burnt out forest of conformity. This phenomenon has enabled the corruption of reason practiced all around us. We need look no further than the Post’s reporting on Hunter’s Laptop for a case history.

    With this extreme psychological onslaught, critical thinking, once the hallmark of the west, is being replaced by the most primitive and savage tribal impulses, and it’s being presented as if it were a cultural advance.

    • Agree: Mehen, gsjackson, Wild Man
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @cassandra

    I have seen nothing but total Groupthink in the local Austfailian MSM for forty years or so. Before that there was a little variety, but it was basically the propaganda system so well outlined by Chomsky and Herman in 'Manufacturing Consent'. As for politics, academia etc, there the process is more or less as far advanced to the 'monoculture of the mind' with a few academic hold-outs still extant. And that one little chink of light, the cyber-world, is being purged even now, with 'the pandemic' as the excuse. End-stage 'liberal democratic' totalitarianism is a real joy to behold.

    , @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "With this extreme psychological onslaught, critical thinking, once the hallmark of the west, is being replaced by the most primitive and savage tribal impulses, and it’s being presented as if it were a cultural advance."

    Indeed.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001369#pbio.3001369.ref001

  • @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "Opinions differ"

    Indeed, and the opinion from the source you cited does not offer a modicum of credible refutation.

    "But citing an authority isn’t an argument that a critical thinker would use anyway."

    Actually, that is what critical thinkers do--provide sources as evidence. So, what exactly do you object to Abramson's work? I imagine that you are able to offer a cogent response, right?

    Replies: @cassandra

    Actually, that is what critical thinkers do–provide sources as evidence. So, what exactly do you object to Abramson’s work? I imagine that you are able to offer a cogent response, right?

    Sure can! Critical thinkers provide logical arguments as evidence; sources are secondary. Rely directly on the evidence, rather than the name of the party claiming to provide the evidence. Instead of throwing out an author’s name, restate his specific argument that you believe makes your point. As critical thinkers know, the quality of the argument is intrinsic and doesn’t depend on the reputation of the person making it. By invoking Abramson, you aren’t engaging in critical thinking, but arguing from authority, which, not to put too fine a point on it, is actually a logical fallacy.

    So see what’s left after you cut Abramson out of the loop. State the particular proposition you are trying to support (actually, it’s not even clear what point you’re contending), and mention the specific evidence or argument that Abramson provides in his book that you find so persuasive. It always helps to know exactly what we’re fighting over!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    I offered a recommendation to GetAClue in hopes to spur him to critically think about the topic. Would you not agree that his statement "Likewise years of lying 24/7 by the Mainslime Media as to “Russia Collusion” fraud/frame up conducted by the FBI and related criminals" is an over the top generalization?

    Indeed, Abramson is an authority on this matter. So, what exactly do you object to his work?

    Replies: @cassandra

  • Ron has been catching a lot of flak for excluding pharmacological treatments for COVID, and restricting the debate to vaccines.

    It occurs to me that he might find it interesting to into the suppression, denigration and censorship of early-outpatient COVID drug treatments, and do an America Pravda article on it. It’s right up his alley, and there’s a surfeit of material.

    His attitude during the interview is incongruous to his general penchant for open invetsigation. I hope his neglect of pharmacological angles is only because he hasn’t actually looked into it seriously. I really don’t want to have to try to explain it if it’s something else.

    • Replies: @Mehen
    @cassandra


    His attitude during the interview is incongruous to his general penchant for open invetsigation. I hope his neglect of pharmacological angles is only because he hasn’t actually looked into it seriously. I really don’t want to have to try to explain it if it’s something else.
     
    It does kind of give you a sinking feeling in your stomach when you contemplate that latter possibility, doesn’t it?

    On the other hand, perhaps it was the dulcet tones of Neil Diamond being played by Nero while Rome burned.

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Corvinus
    @Getaclue

    "Ever heard of the “1619 Project”? — total lies that were given a Pulitzer Prize. Even Black Historians stated it was garbage/lies. In your world that didn’t happen of course…"

    See, now you are resorting to hyperbole and confirmation bias rather than logic and reason. Assuredly, the 1619 Project has its detractors and valid criticisms.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/historians-clash-1619-project/604093/

    "Likewise years of lying 24/7 by the Mainslime Media as to “Russia Collusion” fraud/frame up conducted by the FBI and related criminals."

    I suggest you read Seth Abramson and his monumental work on this topic. Fact checked and fully sourced.

    "The Mainslime Media lies daily and massively..."

    Healthy skepticism is normal. However, you are falling prey to a lack of critical thinking. But you have been conditioned that way. Anything and everything that does not fit your world view, or even remotely challenges it, is automatically dismissed. That is not the mind of a rational individual.

    Replies: @cassandra

    I suggest you read Seth Abramson and his monumental work on this topic. Fact checked and fully sourced.

    Opinions differ:
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/12/18/2002883/-Don-t-cite-Seth-Abramson-as-a-source

    But citing an authority isn’t an argument that a critical thinker would use anyway.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    "Opinions differ"

    Indeed, and the opinion from the source you cited does not offer a modicum of credible refutation.

    "But citing an authority isn’t an argument that a critical thinker would use anyway."

    Actually, that is what critical thinkers do--provide sources as evidence. So, what exactly do you object to Abramson's work? I imagine that you are able to offer a cogent response, right?

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Simon wagstaff
    So I just read a 9, 000 word interview about covid and vaccines and the MATH+ protocol isn’t mentioned? Ivermectin isn’t mentioned? HCQ and zinc isn’t mentioning? I find it difficult to believe you are both unaware of the staggering success these treatments have provided in prophylaxis and treatment. My doctor is from Nigeria and as I was seeing him recently I asked him if he would prescribe me ivermectin… he told me the college of physicians and surgeons would come after his license to practice. I asked if he had friends practicing in Nigeria. He said he had tons of them. I asked how covid was there. He said approximately 2,000 deaths in a population of 220 million. That’s about the same number as the province I live in… population 6 million.., why the difference… almost everyone in Nigeria takes ivermectin for parasites or HCQ for malaria…nothing to see here citizen, move along now.

    Replies: @cassandra

    He said approximately 2,000 deaths in a population of 220 million. That’s about the same number as the province I live in… population 6 million.., why the difference… almost everyone in Nigeria takes ivermectin for parasites or HCQ for malaria…nothing to see here citizen, move along now.

    Thank you. The West has jumped the shark in a curious way: it has come to prioritize glamor over elegance.

    A committment to high-tech has set in, to the point where low-tech solutions are rejected simply because they don’t have enough glamor (= technical coolness + \$\$\$). Of course, pandemeic profiteering, regulatory capture and cronyism are the mechanisms behind this phenomenon in the case of COVID, but the upshot is, the developing world is where the best advances in COVID treatment have occurred, precisely because that part of the globe is still free to investigate low-technology solutions. Even how the research is done differs.

    In the West, the most respected solutions come from centralized government-funded Big Science, carried out by elite scientists whose motivations are often if not usually fame and financial opportunity (e.g., Fauci). The mass of medical practitioers simply turn the crank to implement CDC and WHO diktats.

    Outside the West, research and decision-making are distributed. The discoveries of the efficacy of HCQ, and especially Ivermectin, arguably qualify as brilliant. But this work was done to a large extent by doctors concerned more about the status of their patients (along with heroic frontline physicians in the West willing to face opprobrium), whose primary resources are their own own wit, common sense, and internet access.

    “What should we do about a cure for COVID?”

    The West: “We have this super-cool technology that lets us encapsulate genetic materials in a nanolipid in such a way that we can get cellular genetic process to create antibodies! By the way, we really must do something to discourage those crackpots using aquarium cleaner and de-worming medicine. Some people will try anything.” A recipe for ego-driven bias, corruption and censorship.

    Asia/Africa: “Fauci and friends in those super labs in the USA, in the early 2000’s, found out that a malaria medicine chloroquine did a job on SARS. I dunno, it’s cheap and safe enough, maybe we should try it out on COVID and see if we can tweak it.” So simple, so to-the-point, so elegant.

    One of the less frequently-disussed scientific western developments is propaganda, which has reached such a level of perfection that it has not simply corrupted critical thinking itself, but has managed to implement censorship and group-think at a level which subverts science itself. For this reason, the ability ot practice reason has moved to the East and South where institutional control of public opinion hasn’t yet stifled reason.

    • Thanks: Mehen, acementhead
    • Replies: @BaronAsh
    @cassandra

    Another aspect:
    IF it were established that HCQ + Zinc, Ivermectin or other widely available therapeutics were available, the new shots (they are not 'vaccines') wouldn't qualify for Emergency Use authorization which they needed in order to be able to manufacture and distribute these things.

    Second: the assumption is that all these companies have the end user's benefit in mind even though Pfizer, for example, has a long track record of falsifying, selling bad medicine and so forth. What if the reason they want everyone to have the vaccine has nothing to do with curing covid? Do we know what's in the vaccines? No, it's a private sector secret. Do we know their after-effects? No, there is no disciplined, rigourous post-shot reporting method.

    The whole thing is a huge sh*t show from beginning to end. They suppress information about viable therapeutics - which would make any notion of their being a 'pandemic' entirely superfluous, shut down schools and the private small business sector ruthlessly, cause untold suffering, illness and death by suspending normal medical and other needed cultural services, and yet people like Ron Unz here - whom I greatly respect - just overlook all these glaring anomalies, indeed crimes - and just buy into the whole 'this is a pandemic and the only way out is to do what Big Pharma and Big Government (controlled by Big Intelligence and Big Banksters) tell us.

    As Trump might tweet: "Sad!"

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @MGB

    , @Simon wagstaff
    @cassandra

    Thanks Cassandra. The problem is far worse in my view. If you investigate who any of the mislabeled- big pharma- firms really are you will discover they are really stalking horses for firms like Blackrock and Vanguard. As majority shareholders they control the Board of Directors and they directly or subtly determine who the C suite corporate officers are and thus directly influence corporate priorities. Through their related control of other public companies they significantly influence their coverage of the issues in media firms, or corporate vaccine mandates in other firms they have significant interests in. Significantly I believe they also have major interests in many private, defined benefit pension funds, which certainly have a multi- trillion dollar stake in folks dying prior to their “best before “ date.

    My original point though was how can the vaccine question be reasonably discussed without addressing the effectiveness of existing treatments which invalidate the emergency use authorization. Dr. Pierre Kory’s December testimony before the US Senate’s homeland security committee being censored by YouTube is a probably a good place to start.

    Replies: @Wild Man, @cassandra

    , @Corvinus
    @cassandra

    Because he was viewed as anti-government and anti-big pharma, Trump supporters got on board when he touted hydroxychloroquine. But did he employ propaganda himself as a cudgel to the "Deep State"? For example, at a April 2020 news conference, Trump said, "I’m not a doctor. But I have common sense. The FDA feels good about it. As you know, they’ve approved it, they gave it a rapid approval, and the reason [is] because it’s been out there for a long time, and they know the side effects and they also know the potential". Except, the Food and Drug Administration did NOT approve hydroxychloroquine, or any other drug, as a national coronavirus treatment. Rather, it issued an emergency use authorization for the drug to be prescribed by physicians on a case by case basis.

    Certainly, there was initial promise of that drug, with caveats.

    https://www.wired.com/story/an-old-malaria-drug-may-fight-covid-19-and-silicon-valleys-into-it


    The chloroquine document Todaro and Rigano wrote spread almost—sorry about this—virally. But even though some people are hyping this is a treatment, it still has not yet undergone a large-scale randomized control trial, the gold standard for evaluating whether a medical intervention like a drug actually works. Until that happens, most physicians and researchers would say that chloroquine can’t be any kind of magic bullet. “Many drugs, including chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine, work in cells in the lab against coronaviruses. Few drugs have been shown to work in an animal model,” says Matthew Frieman, a microbiologist who studies therapeutics against coronaviruses at the University of Maryland. What happens if you put the drugs into animals? No one knows yet. Probably nothing bad, because they’ve been used for decades. But maybe they don’t actually help a person fight off the virus.
     
    On the other hand, there has been conflicting evidence as to whether hydroxychloroquine, or hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, is effective at treating coronavirus symptoms.
    It has yet to be conclusively and scientifically established regarding the efficacy of HCQ. From what I gather, the studies of its effects were small in scope, with varying conclusions. One French study seemed to show hydroxychloroquine was effective at reducing the amount of virus in Covid-19 patients, but a small randomized study in China appeared to show that patients who took the drug did not benefit substantially compared to patients who did not use it.

    Here is a meta-analysis of hydroxychloroquine studies from 2021.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77748-x

    Treating COVID-19 patients with CQ/HCQ did not decrease mortality. even it was increased if AZM was added. Besides, CQ/HCQ alone or in combination with AZM increased the duration of hospital stay. Overall virological cure rate and that on days 4, 10, or 14 were not affected by receiving HCQ. Adding AZM to HCQ/CQ did not show any benefit in terms of virological cure as well. The Need for MV was not improved by exposure to CQ/HCQ alone or in combination with AZM. Moreover, CQ/HCQ, did not neither shorten the duration till conversion to negative PCR, prevent radiological progression, nor affect clinical worsening of the disease. Future randomized clinical trials are needed to confirm these conclusions.
     
    Here is a 2021 study regarding hydroxychloroquine.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2779044

    Question Does hydroxychloroquine or lopinavir-ritonavir, administered as a 9-day course, prevent COVID-19–associated hospitalization in patients with COVID-19?

    Findings In this trial that included 685 patients, rates of COVID-19–associated hospitalization in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine or lopinavir-ritonavir were not significantly different compared with those who received placebo.

    Meaning These findings may inform COVID-19 treatment guidelines for outpatients with COVID-19 and demonstrate that large-scale outpatient clinical trials of repurposed drugs can be successfully completed in low-income settings during the pandemic.
     
  • @Prof Watson
    I agree with you Mr. Unz. The vaccine is not perfect, but for the elderly, over 60 group, it gives more benefit than harm. Most of the elderly have been vaccinated in L.A. County. "Eighty-eight percent of L.A. County seniors 65 and over, 70% of residents 16 and over, and 69% of residents 12 and over have received one dose of vaccine including 39% of L.A. County teens between the ages of 12 and 17. Of the nearly 10.3 million L.A .County residents, including those who are not yet eligible for the vaccine, 52% are fully vaccinated and 59% have received at least one dose."

    Replies: @Adrian, @Tony Hall, @cassandra

    There’s a TINA (there is no alternative) aspect to this discussion. The choice isn’t between vaccines and nothing. The choice is between early drug treatment and/or prophylaxis, vaccines and nothing. The first deserves much more attention, and clinical comparison with the second.

  • As of a month or two ago, one of the countries in the world with the absolute lowest vaccination rates was India, with only 3% of the population vaccinated. And that also happens to be the country where millions have recently died. If the vaccines were relatively dangerous and Covid relatively harmless, wouldn’t you expect it to be the other way round?

    …and India also had and still has, fewer covid deaths (425,000 vs 630,000) than the US even with its 4.2x greater population. Furthermore, the recent second peak appeared AFTER the vaccine was introduced, along with other western mainstream goodies such as remdesevir, conveniently administerd intravenously at a local hospital.

    Alongside introduction of these advanced western technologies, use of hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin early-treatment kits were disccontinued, thus introducing a confounding factor. The runaway covid peak was arrested in early May, after use of home kits of Ivermectin and/or HCQ were distributed generally once again. That side of the story, and the lawsuit against WHO’s recommendation agaainst Ivermectin, is promoted here:
    https://joannenova.com.au/2021/06/indias-health-dept-stops-ivermectin-use-but-others-sue-the-who/

    The story isn’t as simple as vaccines or no vaccines, or lockdown vs no lockdown, since most Asian countries freely use alternative treatment protocols with apparent success. Media explanation of rises and declines in COVID neglect important factors, and are so incompetently vague that they can be made to support all sorts of explanations.

    But the truth of the matter is, that when Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroqine protocols are applied a few days after symptoms, the outcome is about as good as if not better than vaccination. We don’t have clinical comparisons, however, IMHO, for the same reason that there was never a comparison between efficacies of HCQ and Remdesivir: results were likely to prove embarrassing.

  • @John Johnson
    @Publius 2

    The “vaccinated” are CAUSING everyone to catch a cold. It’s obvious.

    While MSM blames the un-vaxxed!!!!

    Now the MSM tell us that Jacksonville hospitals are "filled" with "unvaccinated" people and they are causing ER delays. Sound familiar? They tried pulling this same scam with NY and Italy.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/baptist-health-jacksonville-expect-long-wait-times-in-the-er-e2-80-98due-to-the-surge-in-covid-19-e2-80-b2/ar-AAMIjxk?ocid=BingNewsSearch

    Are we even certain if "Jacksonville" exists?

    If it DOES I say we go down there and expose this fake virus once and for all. I bet we will find an empty ER with a bunch of crisis actors in a break room talking about how they plan on spending their NWO money.

    A leading doctor on (((facebook))) is being suppressed for saying that it's merely a cold that can be cured with ginger root. In fact the college where he got his doctorate of geology is threatening to remove him. I have been logging in daily to read his posts and show that (((software platform))) that they don't control me.

    The leftist sheep are wrong about everything, including the virus hoax, and their stupidity threatens us all.

    I had a so-called friend that agrees with 99% of my political opinions but then I find out he got the vaccine. Had no idea he was a leftist this entire time. His wife got it too. He invited me over to dinner and I told him to stop pushing politics on me and I'm not going to eat with him or his left-wing bitch wife.

    Replies: @cassandra, @anon

    The “vaccinated” are CAUSING everyone to catch a cold. It’s obvious.

    Everyone’s dying of the plague; it must be God’s anger at the infidels and witches and the politically incorrect, so we need to burn them.

    …what passes for policy-making today.

  • @Skip Scott
    @RoatanBill

    I just checked it out, and also realized that I'd seen it before. Thanks for bringing it up. In addition, IMHO there should be better early outpatient care with Ivermectin. Just sending folks home to get sicker and THEN treating them is negligence that rises to criminality.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @Mark G., @cassandra, @Abbybwood

    Just sending folks home to get sicker and THEN treating them is negligence that rises to criminality.

    The following is from the a 12/20 review of early treatments by Peter McCullogh et al. at
    https://rcm.imrpress.com/article/2020/2153-8174/RCM2020264.shtml.

    The majority of serious viral infections require early treatment with multiple agents and this approach has not been applied in trials of COVID-19 sponsored by governments or industry.

    This paper coins the acronym SMDT = Sequential Multidrug Therapy, but it’s just a term for the early outpatient (at home) treatment using appropriate combinations of drugs This is a strategy which had been known and practiced by a minority of western physicians since spring of 2020, and by doctors in Asia earlier. The first 2 pages up to Figs. 1 and 2 provide a quite readable explanation of how SMDT should have been applied strategically to treat COVID .

    A few observations:

    [MORE]

    1. Fig. 2 of the review shows that it takes about a week after viral infection before serious cytokine damage begins. The virus is doubling every five hours or so, and even simple remedies like mouthwash can hammer the disease at this stage. More advanced but still relatively simple antiviral treatments could kill off the virus completely during this time. However: the CDC recommends sitting at home and doing nothing, until hypoxia turns lips blue when hospitalization becomes necessary.

    2. This SMDT approach was not just absent from clinical trials, but it was actively denigrated by institutional eliites. Consider that every promotion of treatments such as HCQ and Remdesivir were vigorously denigrated by the CDC. Recommendations were withheld for even mild remedies such as vitamins C and D, zinc and quercetin, and there was no mention of gargling with betadine or using nose spray, or even reducing weight. These treatment details are unimportant; the underlying commonality is that CDC policy effectively prevented antiviral remedial actions until AFTER the virus had the upper hand and complications were setting in.

    3. Didier Raoult’s explosive March 2020 trials of HCQ and azithromycin on early COVID patients didn’t come out of a vacuum, but were motivated by correspondence with Asian doctors, for whom chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine had been used routinely and successfully. At least South Korea, China and India were favorably disposed, although India switched from HCQ to Ivermectin in late summer 2020. Throughout 2020, newspaper articles ran skeptical stories trying to explain why these countries were reporting such spectacularly low death rates, without actually explaining why. Lockdowns were only part of the story: in contrast to official American and Eurpoean constraints, asian doctors were free to treat patients at the first sign of COVID with effective medications that the west had tarred as being dangerous and/or ineffective. In the US only mavericks like Zelenko, and today the FLCCC and relatives, were reporting how effective, and safe, such treaments could be when applied competently. Consequently, some of the best studies are coming from South Americ and Asia where institutional capture by Big Pharma is weaker.

    4. I don’t think it so far-fetched to propose that if early-treatment protocols had implemented aggressively and made a part of CDC guidelines when they were first identified in spring of 2020, that the number of COVID deaths in the US would have been closer to the expected tens of thousands than the 650,000 deathly medical conflagration we have today.

    • Replies: @Skip Scott
    @cassandra

    Thank you for this. I've bookmarked the link for future reference.

  • Yukio Mishima (1925–1970) was one of the giants of Japanese letters as well as an outspoken Right-wing nationalist. Mishima shocked the world on November 25, 1970, when he and members of his private militia, the Tatenokai or Shield Society, took hostage the commander of the Japan Self-Defense Force’s Ichigaya Camp. Mishima then delivered a speech...
  • @Badger Down
    Off the topic of Japan, there was an excellent debate at Cambridge University in England: "This House Believes Israel is a Rogue State". The first speaker, Ben White, nicely demolishes most of the arguments of the "is" supporters, before they even say anything. 2m10s to 12m15s, but the whole thing is good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjkivkkZYNo&t=130s

    Replies: @Calif, from Lyon, France, @cassandra

    The first speaker, Ben White, nicely demolishes most of the arguments of the “is” supporters, before they even say anything

    I’m confused: the first speaker lists reasons for maintaining why Israel IS a rogue state, nicely substantiating rather than demolishing arguments for that position. Did you type “is” while actually intending “isn’t”?

  • It’s one of the great truths of human existence: Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens – “With stupidity the Gods themselves battle in vain.” So said the great German writer Schiller (1759–1805) more than two hundred years ago. A lot has changed since then, but not the power of stupidity in human affairs. You...
  • @American Citizen
    "He’s once again plugging the highly racist line that Muslims and other non-Whites have no true agency and must rely on Whites to rescue them from their backward ways . . ."


    The left never considers that what they consider "backwards" is normal to those other cultures. That's why those types of immigrants don't assimilate, they simply do not want to.

    Replies: @cassandra

    The left never considers that what they consider “backwards” is normal to those other cultures.

    …nor that maybe, just maybe, that what we have in this culture really might be advanced relative to others, despite all the opprobrium cast upon “Western culture” and its defects.

    The flip side of Critical Race Theory is, if much of socially-determined behavior really is cultural, then maybe we should take a good look at what we have in the moment, what we might have, and have an open (uncensored) discussion of what policies would make things better for each of us; before accepting the tenets of CRT and letting that doctrine oppress alternatives. In other words, Crticial Race Theory contains the seeds of its own criticism.

    If culture really is arbitrary, then we should recognize that whether child marriage, for example, is or is not acceptable is a cultural choice, which is NOT necessarily based on or supported by rational argument. There comes a point where we as citizens HAVE to say, no, that’s wrong, and mean it, with the full knowledge that we are asserting our own cultural value over that of others, because we have made the arbitrary judgment that living a certain way makes for a society that we prefer. Any argument that urges us to accept what we deem to be abominable behavior in the interest of “human rights” or “global values” is an attempt to brush aside a fundamental disagreement and surrender legitimate preferences.

    • Replies: @American Citizen
    @cassandra

    "There comes a point where we as citizens HAVE to say, no, that’s wrong, and mean it, with the full knowledge that we are asserting our own cultural value over that of others, because we have made the arbitrary judgment that living a certain way makes for a society that we prefer . . ."

    You have just pointed out what the left considers disgusting: A people/nation/race that have a morally developed sense of right and wrong and the will to use it.

    P.S. - America no longer has that.

  • To understand what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's select committee investigation of the Capitol Hill events of Jan. 6 is all about, a good place to begin is with the sentencing hearing last week of Paul Hodgkins. A crane operator from Tampa, Florida, Hodgkins, 38, pleaded guilty to a single count of obstructing a joint session...
  • @Rurik
    @JLK


    but don’t see how what these people did could be constructive in any way.
     
    Are Americans all commanded by law to be 'constructive' at all times?

    If someone wants to stand on their head and fidget with their feet for hours on end, is that (arguably being less than constructive)- illegal?

    I wasn't there. But it seems to me these people understood that our federal government, and our institutions of democracy and faith in the rule of law and our elections, were and have been violated at the highest levels.

    The will of the American people was thwarted, on behalf of an un-elected and unaccountable Deepstate and their corrupt mouthpiece whores in the ((media)) and ((Big Tech)), and they were understandably and justifiably angry about that.

    They were there simply to peacefully protest The Steal', as they (and I) saw it.

    Now, did any of them suggest that they were there for a violent insurrection to take over the congress building and impose their will by force on the government?

    I've seen zero evidence of that, and if there are one or two frothing morons advocating such a thing, then I'd place the chances that such people are FBI, at pretty much 100%.

    What, if it's true that our media and “two party” system collaborated to subvert the will of the American electorate, in order to foil the campaign of a president they didn't like, would you suggest they do, eh?

    Arm themselves for a violent stand off?

    Or march in unarmed and peaceful protest to the capital, to make their voices heard?

    The problem today is that such people are now the enemies of the ((Deepstate)). And like the Charlotesville protesters peaceably marching to protest the removal of their heritage from the town squares, such people are going to be targeted by the same FBI and media that have done all in their nefarious power to disenfranchise these people from any semblance of influence over theirs or their children's destinies. Which they fear (rightfully) to be in dire jeopardy, as the forces of 'wokness' target them all for demonization, marginalization and second class citizenship, at best.

    Should they protest that? Or put their heads down, put their masks on, and dutifully raise their fists in the black power salute, because silence is violence! ?

    What would you suggest?

    And if it's peaceful protest, but then a few FBI agents beat some guy or break a window, does that give the government the right to put them all in prison for long terms? Or, shoot them though the neck as they're clamoring through a broken window unarmed?

    No one but an idiot believes the narrative of these protesters as violent insurgents attempting a coup by force over our government. Pat Buchanan doesn't believe it, nor the lying imbeciles on CNN.

    But they all say it, because they're all protecting their own arses, at the expense of these people, who're nothing less than convenient scapegoats for all that's terribly, drastically wrong with this nation.

    Replies: @cassandra

    Are Americans all commanded by law to be ‘constructive’ at all times?

    Excellent point. They had provocation to go much further. The participants in the Stop the Steal Rally should be commended for their restraint.

    The rally was held against a backdrop of 4 years of our secret police and “justice” department apparatchiks engaging in political persecution worthy of the Jacobins; the impeachment process was abused not once but twice; there was blatant disregard for constitutional election procedures; the election outcome was literally incredible; propagandistic declarations were asserted that what’s in front of our eyes isn’t really there, and big tech social media engaged in social media decapitations that would have made Robespierre proud.

    Against this backdrop, anything demonstrably constructive would have had to have been pretty extreme.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    @cassandra


    The rally was held against a backdrop of 4 years of our secret police and “justice” department apparatchiks engaging in political persecution worthy of the Jacobins; the impeachment process was abused not once but twice; there was blatant disregard for constitutional election procedures; the election outcome was literally incredible; propagandistic declarations were asserted that what’s in front of our eyes isn’t really there, and big tech social media engaged in social media decapitations that would have made Robespierre proud.
     
    Very well said.

    It was a coup.

    This article is one of my favorites for fleshing out the understandable and very restrained rage.

    To begin with, the FBI and other intelligence agencies spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew this evidence was fake from Day One (see just for one example: this memo from July of 2016 by former CIA director John Brennan).

    https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-disillusionment-of-the-deplorables/

    the actual treasonous scum who subverted what's left of 'our democracy', are sitting there all puffed up with sanctimony now that they've stolen the White House, and have the rancid gall to point the finger at the few naive people left in this country that still had some faith in our institutions, as 'terrorists and insurrectionists'.

    Most decent people simply don't have the psychological wherewithal to comprehend pure evil.

    Like poor Winston Smith on the torture rack, trying to make sense of his tormentor's motivations, when he'll never understand pure, raw, sadistic malevolence.

    The left doesn't want Trump voters to understand or become better partners in our democracy.

    They want them to suffer. For the sadistic, malevolent pleasure it gives them to see them suffer.

    There isn't one person alive dumb enough to think the Jan, 6 protesters were a threat to our democracy.

    No one believes that. The ONLY reason they're persecuting them is out of raw hatred for their world view and their straight, Christian white skin.

    https://kreately.in/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/24200045/Screen-Shot-2020-07-24-at-9.05.21-AM.png

    that is a white baby being tormented, but it's a perfect metaphor for how the left feels about Trump voters.

  • Pope Francis is calling on his Bishops to crush advocates of traditional Catholicism by severely undermining those who choose to practice the pre-Vatican II liturgy. Francis' sudden decision, declared in the apostolic letter Traditionis Custodis, is virtually unprecedented. The letter completely reverses Pope Benedict's 2007 Summorum Pontificum, which allowed practitioners of the old mass to...
  • @Anon
    @cassandra

    Rabbi Jesus’ proclamation that “Salvation is from the Jews” is horrifying to anyone who appreciates rational behavior. Salvation is most definitely not from the Jews, and anybody who believes such a rabbinical notion is a damned fool.

    Replies: @cassandra

    To tell the truth, my general impression of Christianity is as a Judaism 2.0, a major bug fix only distantly related to 1.0. The ideas that I find most inspirational are “I am the way the truth and the light”, and the socio-political attitudes expressed in the Beatitudes and them Good Samaritan, which encourage dialing back tribal exclusivity and racism, and turning the other cheek to de-escalate interpersonal hostility.

    Like democracy itself, however, Christian values require a strong, extra-governmental cultural ethic and sense of fair play in order to resist opportunistic attack. But resistance has collapsed: fair play has become a joke, and cultural norms have been under attack for a century or two, to the point where mainstream culture now reflexively promotes its own demise.

    All this is playing out amidst a collapse in critical thinking and a proliferation of industrial-strength deception. It’s a situation that invokes the meme of Satan as the Great Deceiver. He must be having a field day.

  • @Observator
    To us happy infidels, watching Catholics argue over which figment of their imagination is the correct one is like watching lunatics fighting in Bedlam over which one of them is the real Napoleon. Have at it, boys!

    Once the church had the absolute power of life and death over millions, but now it’s just a coven of neutered perverts prancing around in ridiculous costumes while sniping at gays and sheltering child molesters: I call that real progress. And the best is yet to come...

    Replies: @Blubb, @cassandra, @Whataboutery2020, @DanFromCT

    To us happy infidels, watching Catholics argue over which figment of their imagination is the correct one is like watching lunatics fighting in Bedlam over which one of them is the real Napoleon.

    To us unhappy infidels, watching this argument is like watching a fraudster victimize a mark: it’s done with trickery and subterfuge, and intellectual betrayal. Just because it’s happening here, in an arena for which you have little respect, does NOT mean political battles are being fought differently in arenas where you have a stake.

    This same mushy tenor pervades today’s western culture: no truth that might clearly determine policy is allowed to come to light. This loss of clarity is horrifying to anyone who appreciates rational behavior.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @cassandra

    Rabbi Jesus’ proclamation that “Salvation is from the Jews” is horrifying to anyone who appreciates rational behavior. Salvation is most definitely not from the Jews, and anybody who believes such a rabbinical notion is a damned fool.

    Replies: @cassandra

  • Traveling to Philadelphia Tuesday, President Joe Biden laid out in apocalyptic terms the gravity of the "threat" to American democracy from Republican efforts to reform and rewrite state election laws. "We are facing the most significant test of our democracy since the Civil War. That's not hyperbole. Since the Civil War. The Confederates back then...
  • Is Biden really saying that minor alterations in election laws, all of which would have to pass muster with federal courts and the Supreme Court, represent an existential threat to our republic?
    This is beyond hyperbole. It is ridiculous. It is absurd.

    Of course Biden is Lincoln. He can even be Mata Hari if it suits him.

    The continuing playbook: make outrageous claims, obfuscate evidence, and censor dissidence. Make sure the underlying facts are never brought to light, and everything becomes credible, people can say anything, and politics turns into one big food fight.

    Burying information so that facts stay debatable is the recipe for convincing people to take anything seriously.

  • Are the Democrats headed for their Little Bighorn, with President Joe Biden as Col. Custer? The wish, you suggest, is father to the thought. Yet, consider. On taking office, Biden held a winning hand. Three vaccines, with excellent efficacy rates, had been created and were being administered at a rate of a million shots a...
  • @Realist
    @cassandra


    We’re not dealing with 2 parties, we’re dealing with 2 attitudes toward propaganda, 2 sides of the Ash conformity experiment that’s contemporary American politics.
     
    Exactly. The Deep State doesn’t care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the two parties as long as their important issues are advanced (wealth and power). As a matter of fact, it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting. In fact, we live under a plutocratic oligarchy.

    The Deep State does not care what the American people want. They know that most American people are inane fools and will believe anything. Most Americans would rather watch America's Got Talent, or Dancing With The Stars, or The Masked Singer than being informed about important issues.

    Replies: @cassandra

    The Deep State does not care what the American people want. They know that most American people are inane fools and will believe anything.

    I agree with the former, but I think you’re misrepresenting the latter.

    A lot of us think, despite the “reported” outcome, that “most Americans” actually voted for Trump. The Stop the Steal Rally confirmed this. Plenty of us realize that the elite’s are promoting flagrantly destructive civilizational policies, and don’t really care whether that’s due to corruption or incompetence.

    Second point:

    Most Americans would rather watch America’s Got Talent, or Dancing With The Stars, or The Masked Singer than being informed about important issues.

    Actually, I think that conscientiously trying to be informed by watching network news or following elite media can make you much more disposed to going along with “the Deep State plutocratic oligarchy” than being simply ignorant. These Americans are not stupid, but brainwashed into participating in the mass hysteria. They believe they are in an enlightened majority, and that it’s their fringe opponents who hold stupid and extreme views. They accept palpably weird viewpoints because they are being selectively informed, censored as necessary, and subjected to the most sophisticated propaganda in the history of the world.

    In this environment, intelligence can help you come up with explanations for believing propaganda, and fear can lead you to accept self-destruction. Critical thinking, which can lead you to look behind and rationally assess elite narratives, is suppressed as morally irresponsible.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @cassandra


    A lot of us think, despite the “reported” outcome, that “most Americans” actually voted for Trump. The Stop the Steal Rally confirmed this. Plenty of us realize that the elite’s are promoting flagrantly destructive civilizational policies, and don’t really care whether that’s due to corruption or incompetence.
     
    It is probably true that the vote was stolen. But things would be little different if Trump had won. Trump's administration was a sham. The fact that Trump failed to keep any of his campaign promises is telling and that Trump did not pardon Assange and Snowden was a horrible injustice.

    Actually, I think that conscientiously trying to be informed by watching network news or following elite media can make you much more disposed to going along with “the Deep State plutocratic oligarchy” than being simply ignorant. These Americans are not stupid, but brainwashed into participating in the mass hysteria.
     
    Intelligent citizens can see the inconsistencies in what is reported and what actually happens. As I said most U. S citizens are not very bright...the smaller the brain...the easier to wash.

    In this environment, intelligence can help you come up with explanations for believing propaganda, and fear can lead you to accept self-destruction. Critical thinking, which can lead you to look behind and rationally assess elite narratives, is suppressed as morally irresponsible.
     
    Intelligent, rational, and logical thinking is not what most U. S. citizens are known for. You are making excuses for their failures.
  • @Realist

    Are the Good Times Over for Biden?
     
    They are sure as hell over for U. S. citizens.

    Three vaccines, with excellent efficacy rates, had been created and were being administered at a rate of a million shots a day. The pandemic was at its peak but looking certain to turn down, and it did.

    This welcome news lifted national spirits, and the economy with it.

    And the new president was taking office in a brief era of good feelings produced by the departure of the party and president who had given us the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
     

    What the hell universe are you living in??? There is not one truth in these three paragraphs. You are as goddamn goofy as Biden.

    I am done reading Buchanan's articles.

    Replies: @cassandra

    What the hell universe are you living in??? There is not one truth in these three paragraphs.

    I agree absolutely, but your question is, unfortunately, not sarcastic as you undoubtedly intended: we are living in 2 universes.

    On the one hand, it was obvious to those following election procedures that the Presidential election was extremely irregular if not outright stolen. The Stop the Steal Rally of January 6 was a politically-healthy response to massive voting irregularities. The gathering was a classic instance of a protected First Amendment right: “Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”. It was illegitimately suppressed by a government and Justice Department that had been hijacked by corrupt political operatives.

    On the other hand, we have the MSM news version, whereby a racist politician was rejected by the people in a record-high turnout for the Presidency. A violent extremist insurrection to overthrow this “most secure election in history” was fortunately put down, and ringleaders arrested. Extremist voices and social media accounts irresponsibly countering this view were suppressed.

    We’re not dealing with 2 parties, we’re dealing with 2 attitudes toward propaganda, 2 sides of the Ash conformity experiment that’s contemporary American politics.

    Who ya gonna believe, me or your own lyin’ eyses?

    • Replies: @Realist
    @cassandra


    We’re not dealing with 2 parties, we’re dealing with 2 attitudes toward propaganda, 2 sides of the Ash conformity experiment that’s contemporary American politics.
     
    Exactly. The Deep State doesn’t care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the two parties as long as their important issues are advanced (wealth and power). As a matter of fact, it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting. In fact, we live under a plutocratic oligarchy.

    The Deep State does not care what the American people want. They know that most American people are inane fools and will believe anything. Most Americans would rather watch America's Got Talent, or Dancing With The Stars, or The Masked Singer than being informed about important issues.

    Replies: @cassandra

  • During most of the last year theories regarding the origins of Covid, whether conspiratorial or otherwise, had disappeared from the public debate, pushed aside by the nationwide Black Lives Matter protests and the final stages of the heated presidential campaign. In early January, prominent liberal author and public intellectual Nicholson Baker had tried to revive...
  • @Robbyj73
    The lab theory serves 2 purposes. One is to divide the country into separate opinions on its origin. Second, and more importantly, is to keep the narrative alive that it is actually real and to keep moving vaccines. The fact that the intelligence agencies put out the lab idea is hopefully a reaction to people waking up and realizing this is a scam. The fact that it isn't real should make us all very concerned with what's in that shot. Seems to be graphene oxide, which is very toxic.

    Replies: @John Fisher, @cassandra

    If this is a scam, it sure is a doozy.

    I just finished the video by Sergei Kurginian mentioned by Israel Shamir, in which mention is made of Harvard Prof Charles Lieber, who was accused of working with Chinese intel. Until this I hadn’t realized that Lieber was renowned for his work on nanowires.

    Just before that, I came across the viewgraphs (in Spanish) of a research group at the University of Almeira in Spain that a sample of COVID vaccine that they tested was mostly graphene oxide. They publish ultraviolet fluorescence data, transmission electron microscopy images, optical microscopy, and electron diffraction patterns. An interim report in English is here:
    https://carterheavyindustries.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/official-interim-report-in-english-university-of-almeria.pdf
    Fact checking sites pooh-pooh the reports’ conclusions as unsubstantiated because the vaccine package insert didn’t list graphene oxide as an ingredient (I’m not making that up).

    Turns out, graphene is commonly used for supporting nanowire circuits. It makes you wonder how little in this COVID episode is truly accidental.

    (I didn’t bring up magnets sticking to vaccinated arms lest Ron ban me.)

  • @annamaria
    @Anonymous

    The truth is much more banal and the culprits are the usual kind - the profiteers by any means:
    "A Manufactured Illusion: Dr. David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich: The Illusion of Demand"

    https://youtu.be/gsDlHprql-g


    It is time for the ghastly moral dwarf Fauci to commit suicide.

    Replies: @cassandra, @annamaria

    Youtube took down your video
    “A Manufactured Illusion: Dr. David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich: The Illusion of Demand”.

    Thank you, youtube, for drawing my attention with your censorship. Here it is on bitchute:
    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/JyZqaOm5cBFO/

    • Thanks: annamaria
  • This article is disappointing compared with most of Ron’s fare. Although he recounts the resurgence of the natural origin theory reasonably completely, he omits his characteristic analytical critique, here of of the quality of the arguments the nature-proponents.

    A lot of the evidence cited in this article are opinionated pronouncements from experts, with very little discussion of evidence. These “arguments from opinion” are in the same genre as Dumas Malone’s argument that Jefferson could not have had an affair with Sally Hemmings, because Thomas Jefferson was a gentleman and a gentleman would never do such a thing. Plausible nonsense. They fail my own definition of an expert, as someone who has a strong enough intellectual grasp to present technical reasoning incisively enough to be clearly understood. Bret Weinstein is an example. Drosten, Fauci and Daszak are NOT in this class.

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    One can argue forever over how likely is the occurrence of an unlikely event. Just because highway safety protocols make accidents unlikely doesn’t mean they don’t happen. S**t happens, labs leak. The only question is how often.

    Christian Drosten’s opinions about laboratory virology are the weakest “expert” opinion. In fact, synthesis of something very much like SARS-Cov-2 was presented in the 2015 paper, “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence”, co-authored by “Bat-lady” Zhengli-Shi and America’s own Ralph Baric. The work was started before the Gain-of-Function ban in the US, and allowed to be completed afterward.

    From the abstract: “Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.”

    Either this was COVID’s gransfather, or there’s another ready for prime time.

    If natural, should there not be an animal carrier somewhere? How do you explain the furin cleavage site? What about genetic fingerprints that indicate that SARS-Cov-2 is an evolutionary orphan?

    Yuri Degin’s article still stands for me as one of the most complete descriptions of genetic evidence, and shows why lab origin is likely and natural origin improbable:
    https://yurideigin.medium.com/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

    Our fearless medical leadership ought to be framing their argument in these terms, instead of expecting pontification to sway our opinions

    I’m with Ron Unz, in thinking that the important question is whether the leak was accidental or deliberate. Whether the virus was made in a military or civilian lab, or to what extent those cites are at all separable, is, well, academic.

  • The family of 27-year-old Fi Duong thought they escaped government oppression when they left Vietnam. They were wrong. According to an FBI criminal complaint, Duong has been closely surveilled by the FBI for the past six months, including while he engaged in religious activity. In conversations with undercover FBI agents, Duong held that he entered...
  • Show me the man, and I’ll show you the “crime”. We are living in a totalitarian society.

  • A very important meeting took place in Moscow last week, virtually hush-hush. Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of the Russian Security Council, received Hamdullah Mohib, Afghanistan’s national security adviser. There were no substantial leaks. A bland statement pointed to the obvious: They “focused on the security situation in Afghanistan during the pullout of Western military contingencies and...
  • Suhail Shaheen says that the talks are proceeding sluggishly. I wonder if they’re having trouble settling upon which pronouns to use.

    • LOL: vox4non
  • ‘Hate’ is such an ugly word. And such a juvenile word. It calls to mind the stereotypical eight-year-old girl who screams “I hate you!” to her mother when she is not allowed to join the local sleep-over. The word is most often used half-jokingly—“I hate the Yankees!”, “I hate broccoli!”, etc.—or to describe some detested...
  • @Jeff Davis
    I wouldn't worry too much about the Jews. If history is any indication, their predations follow a pattern, which, following the logic of human response to abuse, always ends in them coming to grief. Now that Israel exists, and redirects the loyalty of the diaspora Jewish community away from their particular country of residence -- to betrayal -- in favor of Israel, the reaction cannot be far off.

    Not only are the Israeli Jews -- the centerpiece of the cancer -- now concentrated/ingathered in a specific geographical location where they can be targeted, but the digital world with its connectivity, its alternative media, and its smartphone cameras, provides a clear picture of Zionists barbarism. Jewish "control" of the corporate media worldwide notwithstanding, the regular people -- even the younger generation of Jews -- see the situation and are moving away from support for the geopolitical crime-in-progress that is Israel.

    Be patient, the Jewish situation has always been "self-correcting".

    Replies: @Schuetze, @cassandra, @Badger Down

    I wouldn’t worry too much about the Jews. If history is any indication, their predations follow a pattern, which, following the logic of human response to abuse, always ends in them coming to grief.

    Actually, I worry quite a bit.

    As a general princiole, I distrust “pendulum” theories of automatic self-correction like the one you suggest here. Corrections of this sort more resemble a support timber snapping under an excessive load than a gentle reversal of motion.

    To the contrary, I would worry about corruption and predation of any sort, since consequences of that sort of thing can cause incalculable suffering over centuries, and even when corrected (an optimisitic assumption), the recovery can take an equally long time and involve horrible excesses.

    Like viruses and cancers, it’s best to take social abuses seriously and attend to them openly and as soon as possible. Covering up these issues under a tissue of “hate”, or under reassurances that they will all somehow go away, is just procrastinaton that lets the problem metastaasize.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  • Terms such as “hate speech”, “conspiracy theory”, “racist” and “anti-semitic” have been linguisitically melted in propaganda pots, and forged into super-pejoratives whose real meaning and power now far transcends their literal origins. They’ve been given such strong psychological connotations that it’s impossible to speak these phrases as if they’re a part of the language.

    I feel like someone watching a magic trick, intrigued by seeing it happen, but not quite able to figure out how it’s done; or more importantly, how it can be undone. Part of the remedy, I think, is to joke about them hyperbolically, but these phrases have become so ingrained in political paranoia that not even that is allowed.

  • John McWhorter, who teaches at Columbia, is one of a handful of blacks who write sensible things about race. He complains that the media bellow whenever police kill a black man but are silent when they kill a white man, and worries that claims of “systemic racism” are leading to a movement to exempt blacks...
  • @mkr
    Hundreds of millions of white people worship Yahweh, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost, and believe in Heaven and Hell and a supernatural being called Satan, and other supernatural beings called angels and demons, which to any sane and logical person (things that don't require a high IQ) is a very stupid thing to do. Why are the high IQ white God worshippers susceptible to delusion, collectivism, false collectivist judgment upon the individual, a propensity to get along to go along with their peers, an inability to judge good and evil properly, scared of the bogeyman, worship the invisible man, are incapable of separating beliefs from observable fact when declaring their beliefs to be the truth, or determine one's righteousness according to one's beliefs and not someone's words and their deeds? Culture! Why are many scientists, doctors, journalists, politicians, military leaders, and other white people susceptible to group-think collectivism when it comes to Covid 19 or the anti-white racist and hateful ideology of "white privilege"? Culture! Regardless of low IQ or high IQ human beings many times do and say stupid things to be accepted by their peers or to collect a paycheck. You don't need a high IQ to judge people individually instead of collectively, to temper your emotions and to think before you do things, or to realize that the Bible is evil, or to just be yourself in life and to call out the mob as the mob.

    Replies: @cassandra

    I like your answer to the age-old question, “How can people be so stupid?” (It’s always the other guy!)

    Regardless of low IQ or high IQ human beings many times do and say stupid things to be accepted by their peers or to collect a paycheck.

    But I’d quibble over whether it’s precisely cultural. It’s true that a lot of thinking is cultural, tribal even. Even the most thoughtful of us routinely peerform our actions out of habit, go along with tribal/cultural impressions, and judge the pronouncements of our medicine men, witch doctors and sages as likely. “Mostly true”, as the fact checkers would say.

    The much more reliable guide, critical thinking, as noticed (invented?) by the Greeks, is just too much work for general use.

    As if the effort and time barriers weren’t enough, the Ash Conformity experiment showed that many people will actually veto their own critical thinking purely to follow the tribal thinking of their peers. It’s true that the basis for what you describe is cultural, but it’s supported by a very solid underlying foundation of psychological vulnerability.

    A culture is cognitively healthy to the extent that the tribal consensus agrees with ratiocination. In today’s culture, the 2 are being driven asunder. The rational are being persecuted, and we’re going back to a dark age, after which we’ll have to discover the advantages of critical thinking all over again.

    In the meantime, the oligarchs will enjoy a situation where they can marginalize those pesky folk who don’t just accept but actually think through their propaganda. Tyrants hate critical thinkers, as witnessed by the fates of Socrates, Giordano Bruno and Galileo, to name a few.

    There’s quite the deprogramming job ahead.

  • To begin, let’s recap what just happened in the Crimean waters. First, the HMS Defender deliberately entered the Russian waters under the pretext that the Brits don’t recognize what they call the “annexation” of Crimea. The Brits deny it, but after seeing 4 bombs explode ahead of the HMS Defender, they altered their course as...
  • @Sarah
    @Arthur MacBride

    Let's have a little fun in this world of bullies.

    Here is a solution that would cause an unstoppable laughter in the whole world:

    Let the Russian planes bomb the next British or US ship violating their territorial waters with Super-Glue barrels.

    Replies: @cassandra

    Let the Russian planes bomb the next British or US ship violating their territorial waters with Super-Glue barrels.

    I really, really, really, really like this idea!

    The trouble is, the Russians would be accused of chemical warfare, using “an agent that has been determined to be a potential carcinogen by the State of California” on American service men. I’d recommend horse manure and/or urine instead, although I suspect the spin in that case would be that the Russians’ are practicing chemical warfare by irresponsibly dumping methane into the atmosphere, thus destroying the planet.

    It’s not hard to come up with spin like this if you’re audience is sufficiently dumb and/or arrogant. I still don’t think you’ll win the infowar, but I very much like your idea about having fun in the process!

    • Thanks: Sarah
  • The Red Russian Rapist Army operates in the same fashion that it has for centuries. Invasion, Rape, Murder, Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide.

    …not at all like the Norsemen, and Normans, on the British Isles, the Teutonic Knights in the Baltics, the Scandinavian traders in early Poland and Russia, the Muslim and Italian slavers from Crimea, the Ottomans in the Balkans and Eastern Europe, or the Albigensian Crusaders in Languedoc. The mirror of history reflects much the same from all directions. Everyone has excuses for their behavior, the difference being, we don’t hear the Russian apologia in the west.

    Saker plays the “racist” card on behalf of the Russian Red Rapist army. Some things never change, and Russians will NEVER be able to get past their inferiority complex.

    You’re ironically expressing your own western European racist attitude.

  • There is one more thing I think Putin could do: make a solemn speech and directly address the people of the West telling them the truth about what the western political leaders are doing.

    I enjoy reading Saker’s articles, but sometimes he crosses over into inexplicable naivete. This suggestion of relying American public opinion is one example: few in America listen to Putin directly, and the news sources who tell Americans what he “really” said will excerpt quotes as necessary to portray whatever he says as the ravings of a war monger.

    Consider that even after all this time, the disintegration of the political truce in Ukraine at the end of February 2014 is now generally regarded in the west as the Ukrainian people exuberantly liberating themselves from Russia. Hardly anyone knows the reality that a sniper-supported violent coup overthrew a peaceful compromise to hold democratic elections 6 months later. Even fewer know that the European state guarantors of the agreement walked away.

    It’s hopeless to think that Putin’s words could be remotely effective after being passed through the meat-grinder of the western propaganda machine. Unless, perhaps, he did something so truly drastic as to attract direct viewership, like giving the address in English.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    @cassandra


    I enjoy reading Saker’s articles, but sometimes he crosses over into inexplicable naivete.
     
    He has the naiveté of a Christian pup. The Kennedy brothers had that same naiveté, and look what ZOG did to them.

    It's like these "Christians" have never read the Bible and are clueless about the true serpent nature of what the world is contending with.

    Moses knew how to deal with them. Jesus came to know how they should have been dealt with, and declared them a nest of vipers. Greco-Roman-Christian civilization dealt with them.

    I'm not sure what passes for "Christians" today have the first clue about how to deal with the serpent, or if they can even see it.

    That naiveté flows from a 6000 Year Old Earth world view.

    The serpent is a lot older than that.
  • Question 1-- What makes your theory about the origins of SARS-CoV-2 so controversial, is not that it suggests that the pathogen was created in a lab, but that it is, in fact, a bioweapon that was deliberately released by US agents prosecuting a secret war on presumed enemies of the United States. Here's the "money...
  • @gay troll
    @cassandra

    Make it to the end of that auto erotic self quoting series of rehashes?

    Replies: @cassandra

    Make it to the end of that auto erotic self quoting series of rehashes?

    Did I call it or what?

  • @utu
    @Erebus


    Ivermectin would be indicated as primary treatment
     
    But the results are not that impressive and the confidence level of their validity is low. Look at the paper that is being promoted by Robert W. Malone whose wife says he invented mRNA vaccines

    https://twitter.com/rwmalonemd/status/1403660830273646592

    "Systematic Review and Meta-analysis -This has now passed peer review and should come out shortly in Am. J of Therapeutics"

    https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-317485/v1/611bf808-b0eb-4a9a-b877-6d6cc8f79d54.pdf

    First of all look at the authors and then look where all the studies they analyze too place and then read carefully what they concluded.

    Replies: @cassandra, @Skeptikal, @Skeptikal, @Erebus

    Ok, I looked, both at the authors and institutions, and at the data as well. Their discussion leads off with

    These findings suggest low to moderate-certainty evidence showing a survival benet without harm of ivermectin for treatment against covid-19. Low
    certainty evidence on improvement and deterioration support the possibility of clinical benet with ivermectin. Low certainty evidence also suggest it could be
    a useful prophylaxis. Overall, therefore, the evidence suggests that early use of ivermectin may reduce morbidity and mortality from covid-19, based on
    reductions in covid-19 infections when ivermectin was used as post-exposure prophylaxis, more favourable point estimates for mild to moderate disease
    compared with severe disease for death due to any cause, and on the evidence demonstrating reductions in the number of patients deteriorating.

    Your point is?

    CDC’s recommended treatment for early COVID is to stay home, wait until your lips turn blue from lung malfunction, and then go the hospital. By comparison, Ivermectin sounds pretty good.

    • Agree: Mark Hunter, Erebus
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @cassandra

    utu, as a BigPharma lying troll, has blood all over its paws and maw from its detestable disinformation work to damn a veritable panacea in ivermectin, dispensed in FOUR BILLION doses over decades and incredibly safe, and effective, to protect the profits from BigPharma experimental gene therapy injections, that could not get EUAs if a viable medication was available. This is filthy, dirty, work, but big corporate stooges have happily done it for decades;.

  • @Verymuchalive
    No references. C'mon mates, you can surely do better than this

    Replies: @Neuromancer, @cassandra

    We can tell you never made it to the end!

    And here’s a link to a freely downloadable eBook, containing my four main articles on the subject:

    https://www.unz.com/ebook/covid-catastrophe-ebook/

    • Replies: @gay troll
    @cassandra

    Make it to the end of that auto erotic self quoting series of rehashes?

    Replies: @cassandra

  • Do not “pursue an investigation into the origin of COVID-19 because it would ‘open a can of worms’ if it continued”. This was the instruction given by the US State Department to its investigators over a year ago, as reported by Vanity Fair in a long piece on Lab Leak. State Department investigators were warned...
  • @Anatoly Karlin
    @utu

    Just a quick note that utu's claims about supply constraints keeping Russia's vaccination rate low have been comprehensively been refuted not just by myself, but by other Russians (who live in Russia) such as melanf on this thread: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/dying-from-corona-in-russia/

    Russians are going to continue paying a price in elevated mortality for several more months to come thanks to their anti-vax sentiments (according to some opinion polls, the highest in the world after Ukraine), but such are the consequences of stupidity. Those who wanted to avoid Corona have had the opportunity for at least 2-3 months. 🤷

    Replies: @ploni almoni, @utu, @cassandra, @israel shamir

    Those who wanted to avoid Corona have had the opportunity for at least 2-3 months

    Just wondering whether Russia has early outpatient treatment. Do they have at-home medications, or do they just tell people to stay at home and go to hospitals after their lips turn blue from lungs malfunction, as in the west?

    Variabilty in early treatment is an important but ignored confounder in COVID statistics.

    • Agree: Iris
  • @gay troll
    The virus is just not that deadly. It’s obviously not intended as a weapon. What kind of weapon is highly indiscriminate yet barely lethal? The only thing that has been weaponized is the pandemic response itself. And this weaponization had not been aimed by one nation against another; it has been aimed by the globalists against the public. This means that the U.S. and China are effectively cooperating to gaslight the public: the American public in particular.

    Why? Because SARS CoV 2 probably leaked out of Fort Detrick. The entire choreographed pandemic response has been intended to cover up this origin of the virus. If the American public knew that many thousands of Americans had died because a GoF research project protected by CDC patents had been released due to federal negligence, there would be hell to pay. Not to mention the fact that the virus spread worldwide. If the CDC and Federal government were known to be liable for the COVID pandemic...you do the math.

    What is needed to avoid liability is plausible deniability. That’s what made Wuhan the perfect location to spoof the origin of the virus. Both wet market and Wuhan lab leak were competing theories from day one. Meanwhile the Chinese mounted a theatrical response in Wuhan, giving the impression that a new plague was about to sweep the world. And the MSM inexplicably ignored the impending global crisis that the Chinese were signaling, waiting until March to present the virus as a threat to the American public. It is clear that the US government, Chinese government, and US media are all collaborators in this spoof.

    And it will all work out fine as long as the Western world doesn’t figure out that the CDC is liable. The Chinese can blame Ft. Detrick, and Americans can blame the CCP (or an undercooked bat). The truth will become another “conspiracy theory”.

    Fact is, the US government and US corporations built communist China. They gave away our industrial base and our intellectual property. Globalism is already highly integrated; the idea of the US attacking China is ludicrous. Yes, the US appears to have seeded SARS CoV 2 at the Military Games in Wuhan. But they surely coordinated this action with the CCP in advance.

    If World War 3 ever happens, the US will be the loser by design. We are the future bread basket of Planet Zion.

    Replies: @Realist, @anonym25, @anonym25, @Old and Grumpy, @cassandra

    Au contraire: As a bioweapon, COVID is near perfect. Savvy generals have long known that it is often better to burden an enemy with wounded soldiers rather than battlefield dead.

    COVID spreads throughout the population with a long inconspicuous incubation enabling an inherently virulent contagion. Medical facilities are overloaded before the cause is identified. With COVID, discharged patients are often rendered unfit by outright organ damage, or the incomplete recovery of long-hauler syndrome, both caused by a special propensity of the spike protein to attach to ACE2 receptors, especially human, and thus activate cytokine excesses.

    Naval ships that have been disabled this way:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_naval_ships
    COVID effectively turns such a vessel from military to medical, and likewise reorganizes an initially functioning target society into the sick, the quarantined and their caregivers, each group devoted to dealing with the disease and little else.

    From the viewpoint of a bioweapons designer, what’s not to like? The only defect is that prophylactic treatment with simple repurposed drugs have proven to be surprisingly effective, a point which may have caught bio-designers looking in high-tech directions off-guard.

    The combination of these specific properties gives more weight to the hypothesis that not only did COVID originate synthetically, but that it was actually designed with nefarious intent.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @cassandra

    There's also the scheme to turn health-care workers into "heroes," the equivalent of the "greatest generation."

    First, physicians and nurses were militarized -- thank them for their service --, then the military was called upon to deliver liberation -- vaccines.

    All sorts of lines got blurred; medicine turned into warfare, invisible germs were weapons more lethal than bullets; the busybody down the street became Masie the Masker who graduated to Vivian the Vaxer.

    And still the American people have not figured out that they are the enemy.

  • [Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through VDARE.com] It’s St. George's Day, April 23. This has actually been St. George's week; not the chap who slew the dragon, but St. George Floyd of Minneapolis, who was slain himself last year by something much more fearsome than any dragon—by systemic racism! So the...
  • Anyone know where to get “Kick me, I’m White!” tee shirts for some of my friends?

    Replacing personal critical thinking with tribal compliance is taking us back into the dark ages. So it shouldn’t be surprising to find phenomena remiiniscent of some of the most destructive practices of Medieval Europe. Three that come to mind are the Children’s Crusade, the post-crusade Flagellant movement, and iconoclastic practices of the Reformation.

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    In the Children’s Crusade, elites inspired some of their charges to venture off into slavery, thinking their actions were noble and to the good. One modern analogy are the heavy taxations, increaased energy cost and infrastructure destruction imposed with the doctrine of “saving the planet”. Another is the suppression of early-stage COVID treatments, because those mostly grasss-root discoveries didn’t “follow the science” as defined by elite organizations.

    Flagellant analogies are ubiquitous. (Some) whites, even those who had nothing in their background remotely connected with slavery or Hitler, have inflamed their sense of guilt to a level where they believe that criminal behavior must be tolerated when it is politically correct; that their cultural preferences are inherently evil; and that self-destructive policies such as unregulated borders and destruction of historical monuments are embraced as effective forms of atonement. As if today’s irrationality will somehow correct yesterday’s injustices, whether mideast policies, American slavery, the holocaust, or displacement of native peoples by settlers (only Eurpoean, not Arabs or Mongols). (Maybe someone should talk to the Palestinians and Balts.)

    Political warping and censorship of the historical record and journalistic evidence is embraced today, as fervently as Ptolemaic epicycles had been by the medieval papacy.

  • The Israeli People Committee (IPC), a civilian body made of leading Israeli health experts, has published its April report into the Pfizer vaccine’s side effects.* The findings are catastrophic on every possible level. Their verdict is that “there has never been a vaccine that has harmed as many people.” The report is long and detailed....
  • @Kumbaresu
    @the grand wazoo

    My close relative took his first Pfizer shot on March 31. Two weeks later he was admitted to a hospital with a severe pneumonia and diagnosed with COVID. 2 days later he was transferred to ICU and placed on a ventilator. He is in critical condition. The rest of his family have not had any shots but they were also diagnosed with COVID. His wife, sister, brother, son and daughter got sick at about the same time and they are staying at the same hospital with headaches, fever, chest pain, cough, diarrhea and abdominal pain. Their condition is not life threatening and they don't need life support.

    Replies: @cassandra, @I-testigator

    Very sorry about the plague on your house.

    I dunno, but putting someone on a ventilator sets off alarms: I thought that had been found to be detrimental. In your place, I’d make sure you have a doctor who understands proactive treatments like the MATH+ protocol at
    https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/. There’s evidence that ivermectin is especially helpful in general, and that steroids reduce lung inflammation.

    • Agree: Nancy
  • Mayhem in Melbourne On August 2, lockdown measures were implemented in Melbourne, Australia, that were so draconian that Australian news commentator Alan Jones said on Sky News: “People are entitled to think there is an ‘agenda to destroy western society.’” The gist of an August 13th article on the Melbourne lockdown is captured in the...
  • @Robert Dolan
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7E0drlaIgZB/

    Replies: @cassandra

    Thanks for the downer; I needed that ;-(.

  • Thank you Ms Brown.

    It has now been over five months, with self-appointed vaccine czar Bill Gates intoning that we will not be able to return to “normal” until the entire global population of 7 billion people has been vaccinated.

    Five months indeed. Western elites have provided us with yet more evidence of their willful incompetence, corruption and/or perfidy, in a witches brew of failed policies.

    A recent example of a few days ago is discussed in this Medcram video:

    With typical clarity, Seheult discusses Convalescent Plasma Therapy, i.e., giving active COVID patients blood from recovered COVID patients. He first discusses its medical basis, and recent research which indicates some efficacy. Then, at about 18:00, he presents “expert” reaction, wherein they toss yet more logs onto the road.

    [MORE]

    The FDA has been keeping authorization on hold for the last few months, at the recommendation of NIH Director Francis Collins and NIAID’s Clifford Lane and Anthony Fauci. The FDA itself refused to comment at all regarding emergency use: “The emerging data on the treatment is too weak”. For emergency use? Lane came out with this gem: “The three of us are pretty aligned on the importance of robust data through randomized control trials, and that a pandemic does not change that.” If not a pandemic, then what would? Under what circumstances might you try a promising technique before letting more people die?

    Another excuse was that there was no placebo group, and that made it hard to interpret the results. NOTHING in science says that a placebo group has to be included in order to draw valid conclusions: that depends entirely on how existing data is interpreted. As far as I’ve been able to infer, the placebos are used in medical science mainly to make results that should be obvious comprehensible to the most dimwitted.

    As an example, it would make much more sense, and be far more ethical, to run a single study comparing HCQ against Remdesivir, than it would to run 2 separate studies comparing each of these treatments with placebo groups. The scientific goal is to determine which of available treatments is most effective, not which does best against a placebo. Placebos in this case not only introduce uselessly vestigial experimental arms, but also produce excess mortality among the untreated. The best science is that which leads to results most economically, not only in terms of intellectual and physical effort, but especially in terms of mortality.

    By now, after all this time, I’d have expected some progress; for example:

    – Widespread use of HCQ, with a protocol including AZT and Zn, by now well-tweaked to optimum.
    – Front-line examination of the use of budesonide and other corticosteroid inhalers.
    – Use of Plasma Treatment, with careful data collection and analysis to keep tabs on efficacy.
    – Clear recommendations for masks, that include explanations of when different types may or may not be effective.
    -(My own query, inspired by NorCal smoke abatement) Can an air treatment like Febreze pull COVID aerosols out of the air, reduced to a level where we can reopen public venues? I only mention this because I’d have expected some discussion on this by now, but didn’t find much.
    -Simplest of all, recommending that we have adequate levels of Vitamin D and zinc in our blood.

    Yet after all this time, the country is in a malaise created by their do-nothing stagnant policies. They haven’t even done the last: they’re killing some of us, literally. After these 5 months, precisely what advances in understanding can our elites point to that justify placing any trust in them, much less their fast-tracked, untested “vaccines”?

  • The situation in Belarus is evolving very rapidly, and not for the better, to say the least. A lot has been going on, but here is a summary of what are the most crucial developments in my opinion: Last Sunday was a major success for the Belarusian opposition: huge crowds took to the streets of...
  • @Derer
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Respecting a referendum is the same as respecting an election - that is the rule of present democracies. Although direct vote on issues would be much improved rule for democracies. Did American public was asked about invading Iraq - no, proxies in Washington decided.

    Replies: @cassandra

    proxies in Washington decided.

    …because higher proxies had decided what Washington was going to have decided.

    Justifications given for geopolitical decisions have become increasingly nonsensical. In the case of Iraq, even the NeoCons were more apologists than hawks, in the sense that they gave explanations for the invasion, and predictions for developments, that I doubt that they actually believed.

    Could Wolfowitz really think the war would pay for itself? Did Rumsfeld believe the war would be over in a couple of weeks, or that we’d be greeted with flowers? The actual failed outcome was fobbed off as some unexpected surprise, but was predictably obvious to numerous observers, and probably to the Neocons as well. It makes more sense to think that they they spouted their BS more to allay public skepticism and promote an otherwise unacceptable agenda, than to express their real expectations.

    Maybe OIL (Operation Iraqi Liberation), or the appointment of ex-Unocal pipeline proponent Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan were the behind-the-scenes, real motivations, but even prospect of those questionable explanations was slim.

    Finally, the Belarusian economy will “reformed” – meaning that whatever can be sold will be sold, then the country will be deindustrialized (like the Ukraine or the Baltic states).

    Indeed. The obvious common thread in all this is the Balkanization of independent countries: Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine and Libya, and the demonization of independent leaders, like Putin, Assad, Qaddafi and Saddam Hussein. It appears that even control of natural resources is secondary to the primacy of raw geopolitical power uber alles. The power center seeking that goal reside at a supranational level where nations and corporations are manipulated instruments of truly sovereign foundations.

  • Alan Dershowitz, in Guilt by Accusation, writes, referring to accusations concerning his alleged sexual misconduct, “Evidence was no longer important. It was the accusation that mattered, as well as the identities of the accuser and accused. The presumption shifted from innocence to guilt. For a man to call a false accuser a liar became a...
  • Just trolling along:

    I sometimes look at political issues through the lens of Karl Popper’s principle of falsifiability. Dershowitz’ behavior in this episode, along with other cited examples, might lead one to propose the hypothesis that he is a self-serving sleazebag. This can be falsified by counter-example(s) where Dershowitz behaves in a way where his sense of integrity overrides his self-interest. Can readers here provide any?

  • It's hard to read these stories few people seem to care about (I hope you are doing well, Taylor Mixon and I think about your email often), and the corporate media completely ignores. Perhaps a few family members and friends will remember their name and how they died, but not many others (think Amanda Blackburn)....
  • @Emily
    @Moi

    Hey, ya’ll, you’re gonna have a black woman as Veep.

    Correction.
    You are going to get a black woman as President unless you vote for Trump
    And thats God awful bad.
    Devil and the Deep Blue.
    Has to be Trump marginally by a whisker I guess.

    Replies: @cassandra

    Correction. You are going to get a black woman as President unless you vote for Trump

    The dems had an excellent “black woman” candidate for president: Tulsi Gabbard. She did well in the debates they let her attend, and when Google didn’t block searches for her campaign website. Very notably, a should-be-famous exchange with Kamala Harris stopped Harris in her tracks.

    Tulsi is intelligent and articulate, served in the armed forces, but too sensible to be tolerated. The DNC carefully hid her candidacy, using debate and rule changes. Google’s algorithm even blocked her campaign site, and Tulsi sued Hillary for claiming she was acting in Russia’s interest. The dems, the media and big tech disappeared Gabbard from public consciousness. So much for the people’s will in today’s Democratic Party. At this time, hardly anyone I talk to even recognizes Tulsi’s name.

    Now, long after Tulsi showed the voters how unsavory Kamala was, long enough so that everyone has forgotten the exchange in the debate anyway, the PTB’s are going to circumvent the primary by bringing unsavory Kamala in through the back door. “You are going to get a black woman as President unless you vote for Trump”. Yup. This actually might have been a good thing, but we’ll never know. In any case, the present anointee is an abomination. So much for democracy.

    It’s a replay of 2016, except this time, with even more election manipulation, and a DNC supporting an even more ethereal and dysfunctional political platform. Of course Trump will win; what other choice is there?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @cassandra


    what other choice is there?
     
    You don't know? Demented, 30-years tax payers leech, Biden. His greatness is repeatedly advocated by the CNN, MSNBC, WP, NYT and other dishonest outfits.
    , @anon
    @cassandra

    I swore that Susan Rice would get the VP nod from Biden.

    now that you point out what happened to Tulsi I think the same thing has happened to Rice. Rice is her own woman ultimately, way too strong and smart. she wont be so controllable as president. she is a kind of democrat Trump

    for that reason I was looking forward to Susan Rice. now I see she did not have a chance. it was the Harris buffoon all the way

    Replies: @SCuba Steve, @Swamp Fox, @Gunga Din

    , @Suicidal_canadian
    @cassandra

    Tulsi was hated because she like trump is against empire. Trump is just too dumb to understand that the us has an empire and just thinks bases are a waste of money. Tulsi is anti war which means no international looting operations for the oligarchs. That is why tulsi and trump are hated

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  • The Establishment explanation for what occurred in Beirut’s port on August 5th is that the horrific series of explosions that killed hundreds, injured thousands and left hundreds of thousands homeless was a terrible accident that came about due to a multi-faceted failure by Lebanon’s corrupt and incompetent government. Or at least that is the prevalent...
  • @Peripatetic Itch
    @anonymous


    The worst urban explosion since Hiroshima
     
    But probably not the worst ever. That distinction goes to the Halifax explosion of 1917, when a munitions ship blew up after a collision in the harbor. It produced a mushroom cloud and a shock wave that killed roughly 1950 people, most of them more than 1.5 miles from the epicenter of the blast. In comparison we see many people surviving the Beirut blast from a few hundred meters away, suggesting the blast front was too slow to be a shock wave, but was rather a pressure wave, if I understand the difference between the two.

    The Halifax explosion was the subject of Barometer Rising a book by by Canadian author Hugh MacLennan, who endured the tragedy as a ten-year old boy. I remember first reading it as a Canadian student in high school in the 50s. Gripping book. Gave me nightmares for months.

    Replies: @cassandra

    It produced a mushroom cloud and a shock wave that killed roughly 1950 people, most of them more than 1.5 miles from the epicenter of the blast.

    Thanks for this post. I had known that AN fertilizer could explode by itself, so it was unnecessary for it to have been treated or mixed, as some here have suggested.

    But I’m especially interested in the “mushroom cloud”. I’ve looked up images of detonations, and the only photos I’ve found with characteristic button-tops are from nuclear, rather than chemical, examples. Can you add more to the description of this one?

    • Replies: @A123
    @cassandra


    But I’m especially interested in the “mushroom cloud”. I’ve looked up images of detonations, and the only photos I’ve found with characteristic button-tops are from nuclear, rather than chemical,
     
    Any sufficiently large explosion can create a mushroom shaped cloud.

    The photo below is non-nuclear. It is from the PEPCON plastic works explosion of 1988.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/c5/b5/ffc5b5a8b8851f19500fa91dcc5391c5.jpg
    , @Peripatetic Itch
    @cassandra

    Here's a picture of the mushroom cloud for the 1917 explosion:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Blast_cloud_from_the_Halifax_Explosion%2C_December_6%2C_1917.jpg

    Another Halifax explosion in 1945, an ammunition depot this time, also produced a mushroom cloud:

    https://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Halifax-Explosion-1945-1024x1250.jpg
    https://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/nova-scotia/halifax-explosion-of-1945/

    Yes, it's the explosive force that determines the cloud and the shock wave. The shock wave in 1917 was, I think, what primarily killed the two thousand victims. Only but few people in direct line of one will survive, thus proving that the blast front of the Beirut explosion was not what would normally be called a shock wave.

  • @Pft
    @Colin Wright

    There was Dynamite. Also the ammonium
    Nitrate was mixed with diesel fuel (ANFO) which is the fuel. Ammonium nitrate used for explosives adds fuel to make it explosive. Ammonium nitrate (AN) used for fertilizer has no fuel. Also being loaded in a truck it was likely tightly packed and contained. This makes an explosion easier when ignited or heated. In Beirut the bags were stored in a large warehouse, and not as contained. Need more clarity on how these 1000 lb bags were stored, side by side or stacked.

    Replies: @pq, @cassandra

    Also the ammonium Nitrate was mixed with diesel fuel (ANFO) which is the fuel.

    I don’t believe the AN in this case was mixed with diesel, though it would enhance the explosion, as in Oklahoma City, for instance. I do take your point about confinement and packing, though.

    But even the Nitrpril “explosive” below seems only to be a pelletized version of vanilla AN, without additives.

  • Wherever there is mass murder in the Middle East, there you find the Israeli fingerprint. And it was always forever thus. Time and time again, since 1948, Israel has demonstrated that it solves all its regional problems with violent terroristic solutions that change the political and geostrategic equation in its favor. Time and time again,...
  • @Patagonia Man
    @cassandra

    This attack on Beirut needs to be seen in the larger context of the Shia-Iran and Sunni variant, Wahhabi-Saudi Arabia conflict for influence in the Mideast region.

    Notwithstanding a major reason that led to this disaster is the utter negligence of certain Lebanese port officials, its the timing that gives it away, Cassandra.

    This coming week, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) set up by the UN was to report on the 2005 assassination of the Lebanese PM Rafic Hariri.

    The zionist entity had previously accused Hezbollah of the crime ("accuse your enemy of that which you are most guilty"), but whatever determination the STL now makes will be swamped by the devastation, tragic deaths of the Lebanese people and the seething anger they have for years of neglect/betrayal by their political leadership.

    Cheers!

    Replies: @cassandra

    This attack on Beirut needs to be seen in the larger context of the Shia-Iran and Sunni variant, Wahhabi-Saudi Arabia conflict for influence in the Mideast region.

    Sort of my point: the explanation needs to at least consider operational factors before deciding whether they’re actually relevant, and of course, this may be one. At first glance, I don’t see Sunni involvement in this, but they would be the bag men, and finding their fingerprints in the middle of the Beirut bombing would be as likely as catching Soros at a BLM demonstration. But, if you think I’m missing something, go ahead; make your case and I’ll listen.

    To be clear, I was expressing annoyance at the invocation of Occam’s razor, because, as in this case, it’s usually invoked by people who dont’t have the patience to delve into detail, and who are trying to shut down those who do. Occam’s razor should be invoked after a competent effort is made to ascertain the facts, not to shut it down at the outset.

    The circumstances surrounding the nautical, financial and storage situations here were unusual in every way, and there’s plenty of motivation. The elephant in the room is the mortal antagonism between Iran-supported Hezbollah and Israel. Overall control of the eastern Mediterranean, whether for oil access (Israel) or trade (China vs US) is another. And of course, asset manipulation followed by vulture buy-ups (like the Deutsche Bank puts on American Airline stocks preceding 911 or Silverstein’s insurance policies) all call for serious consideration (not necessarily confirmation)

    To dismiss considering these possibilities as “conspiracy theories” would be to forget how often the US, and especially Israel, have been caught out by whistleblowers, or even by their own bragging. (I shouldn’t neglect Sunni Prince MBS of Saudi Arabia.) While “thought experiments” to assess the likelihood of various possibilities, and to provoke ideas, is a respected activity in the best science, our Ministry of Truth forbids it in political matters.

    • Agree: Patagonia Man
  • @DrCiber
    Occam’s Razor people. The simplest explanation is almost without exception the correct explanation. In this case, just one word: negligence.
    The author’s convoluted 1700 words of international intrigues and plotting, or a plodding Middle Eastern bureaucracy fumbling the ball for 7 years between the port officials and a complacent judiciary that wouldn’t know ammonium nitrate from marshmallows?

    Replies: @Majority of One, @GeeBee, @anon, @cassandra

    Occam’s Razor people. The simplest explanation is almost without exception the correct explanation. In this case, just one word: negligence.

    Occam said simplest, not the most simplistic.

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
    @cassandra

    This attack on Beirut needs to be seen in the larger context of the Shia-Iran and Sunni variant, Wahhabi-Saudi Arabia conflict for influence in the Mideast region.

    Notwithstanding a major reason that led to this disaster is the utter negligence of certain Lebanese port officials, its the timing that gives it away, Cassandra.

    This coming week, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) set up by the UN was to report on the 2005 assassination of the Lebanese PM Rafic Hariri.

    The zionist entity had previously accused Hezbollah of the crime ("accuse your enemy of that which you are most guilty"), but whatever determination the STL now makes will be swamped by the devastation, tragic deaths of the Lebanese people and the seething anger they have for years of neglect/betrayal by their political leadership.

    Cheers!

    Replies: @cassandra

    , @Jmaie
    @cassandra



    Occam’s Razor people. The simplest explanation is almost without exception the correct explanation. In this case, just one word: negligence.
     
    Occam said simplest, not the most simplistic.
     
    Occam's razor says neither. A simple explanation which fits all relevant data is preferred because it's more likely to be provably correct.

    More than just a semantic difference, especially under the circumstances. We have video (alleged, to be sure) of what appears to be fireworks going off nearby the stored fertilizer. Simple enough. On the other hand we have VT reporting radiation spikes that seemingly every agency in the world is refusing to report.

    And that VT missile imagery is absurd - "infrared" pictures showing:
    - the missile tail fins in sharp contrast (?!?) but nothing from the exhaust
    - if the exhaust was completely spent (with zero residual gas) then the missile would be in free fall (meaning a hyperbolic trajectory) and yet there was no change in decent angle despite the varying heights at which it was (allegedly) photographed
    - identically strong heat signatures from the person in the foreground to the cart in the background
    - same heat signature from the cart's driver and wheels
    - the person in the foreground giving off the same amount of heat from ankle to head

    And yet we have folks certain that Israel dropped a nuke because "they benefit" seemingly constitutes evidence of guilt.

    Replies: @A123, @Majority of One

    , @Kapyong
    @cassandra


    "Occam said simplest, not the most simplistic."
     
    The original Razor is usually given as this :
    "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"

    Literally
    "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity"

    The key verb is "do not multiply" - don't multiply entities, or don't add extra things - i.e. to cut off whatever is not needed. That's why it's called Occam's Razor and not Occam's Chooser or Occam's Decider.

    I.e. what he said is essentially :
    "Cut off everything unnecessary."

    Replies: @Majority of One

  • @Yukon Jack
    @Patagonia Man

    http://blog.gambrinous.com/wp-content/uploads/coyote_foolproof_plan.jpg

    I'm not here to convince anyone of anything, but I do know one thing, the official narrative by the MSM is usually a cover story, a lie, obfuscation of who really did it. On 911 they said Muslims did it, well when we discovered building 7 came down by controlled demolition we could rule out Muslims.
    So with that in mind I noticed the explosion looked like a classic tactical nuke but the TV was telling me it was fertilizer. And then everyone repeated that story with no evidence and no investigation.

    So with this crime we have this picture of Bibi at the UN holding up a poster board with the exact target area. Coincidence? Bibi E. Coyote holding up a target map is pretty damning.

    https://i.imgur.com/hTfgaWY.png

    Replies: @Majority of One, @cassandra

    I went to your site to have a look, and found that yt had taken down one of your videos. Just wondering if you’ve considered a bitchute account.

  • @Colin Wright
    'It is already clear to all discerning minds who exactly benefits from the false flag attack on the Beirut Port. '

    'Who benefits?' is not a sufficient proof of anything.

    I sold my deceased mother's house in the fall of 2008 -- but the funds didn't finish all their legal perambulations until the Spring of 2009. Conveniently, both the house and the cash resulting from its sale were safely out of play when everything went kablooey.

    As a result, rather than losing a great deal of the proceeds in the 2008 crash, I promptly increased my holdings considerably by investing just before the rebound.

    I benefited from the crash; it does not follow that I caused it.

    Much as I loathe Israel, the mere fact that the explosion may have served her interests is not particularly compelling evidence that she caused it.

    Replies: @Taxi, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Majority of One, @Harold Smith, @Moi, @Curmudgeon, @cassandra, @Alternate History

    I benefited from the crash; it does not follow that I caused it.

    You’re discussion addresses only one leg of the motive-means-opportunity test. You’d fail, but Israel wouldn’t. While that does make Israel a suspect in this potential crime, we probably both agree with your underlying point, that a bit more evidence is necessary before technical conviction.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Druid
    @cassandra

    Like 911. Hold your breath🙃

  • @Ann Nonny Mouse
    I guess the "shima" is taken from "Hiroshima" so renaming Beirut "Beirutshima" in the title is saying it was a nuclear attack.

    But in tbat case there would now be high levels of radioactivity around the port, easily detected.

    Unless I've misread this, no such radioactivity has been detected.

    Replies: @cassandra, @Alternate History

    …there would now be high levels of radioactivity around the port, easily detected.

    Excellent point! At least I think it is: is there some reason you’d expect the radiation to be buried? I’d think by now that the proponents of this theory at VT would have connections to someone in that region with a radiation counter willing to check, and especially to report their findings if negative.

    This question comes up in a few other speculations on mid-East bombings, and most notably, in Dmitri Khalezov’s explanations for the fall of the Twin Towers.

  • It is perfectly reasonable for critics to ask, every so often, if there is any work showing that genes make a contribution to intellectual differences between genetic groups. I assume it can be accepted that genes make a difference within a genetic group, and the animus arises only when genetic groups are being compared. One...
  • @Shaman911
    Intelligence and IQ in the western mindset comes down to this ( just how much bullshit and lies) called history and Trivia you can retain then vomit out when asked. I know high IQ, book smart people who have the social skills of toads. LEARNING depends on your astrology sign and how you process information presented to you. Some people read and retain, some learn by doing, etc...
    But in the end, having a high IQ just means your a different type of "dumb ass"

    Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert, @cassandra

    This is probably as good a place as any to post some thoughts on the significance of IQ.

    But in the end, having a high IQ just means your a different type of “dumb ass”

    If you’re trying to say that intelligence should be more than the ability to “vomit out” something “when asked”, I’d agree, though I’m not quite ready to eliminate book learning in favor of astrology.

    [MORE]

    I was thrown in with a lot of nerdy “high IQ” people during my graduate education. Vomiting out trivia was pretty common, but there was also a lot of effort exerted toward grasping difficult ideas, sometimes involving a level of mental struggle that was more stressful than healthy. A couple of things became apparent. Individuals tended to think in different patterns, and it was clear that each of us were bringing very different mental skills to bear, even though we were working on the same single problem in the same narrow academic discipline. What struck me was that “IQ” at it’s heart was multi-dimensional. And it was also clear that there were times when some really smart people got themselves stuck in places the rest of us could get through.

    I think what you refer to as “LEARNING” is a meta-ability to bring what abilities you do have to bear on the issue at hand. This is like not knowing there’s a spare screwdriver under your spare tire, because you didn’t think, or weren’t prompted, to check. I don’t think that’s measured in an IQ test, but I don’t know how to account for it either.

    The opposite of this very human characteristic also makes me very ambivalent about our trust not just in IQ but in AI as well. We will see (actually probably now have) machines intelligent enough to have optimizable IQ’s. But that doesn’t address the very human talent of having good ideas pop into your head free-form, for no particular reason. (e.g., to think to look under the tire.) Some of these can be very important by themselves, or trigger a whole chain of other ideas; others are just distractions. An example of this is the issue of insight, where noticing a simple way to look at a problem can be more important than the solution (Archimedes’ Eureka!). Sometimes the insight draws attention to other problems you hadn’t thought of in a way that transcends what you’re working on.

    In spite of this deficiency, an AI world might function just fine. So I’m not so much worried about what improving AI and focusing on IQ might lead to, as much as unrealized potential that we might be leaving behind, because we don’t quite yet understand things we haven’t quite noticed.

    It isn’t necessary to be overconfident to the point where we believe our knowledge is complete.

  • @Anonymous
    @Realist

    Exactly. I'm sick of long rambling essays about what is clearly self-evident.

    Replies: @cassandra

    I’m sick of long rambling essays about what is clearly self-evident.

    I sort of take your point, but I have to admit I actually respect taking such pains: it’s not the kind of conclusion you want to screw up. Besides, you need to tie down all the loose ends, because you know people are going to try to squirm out of conclusions they don’t like (and jump to those they do).

    The point is, observations can give you a hypothesis, which you may want believe for whatever reason, but only after getting and analyzing data like do you have actual verification.

    That’s what (used to) pass for science, though I realize this is a pointy-headed boomer thing whose time has passed. We’re now so much better off, getting information about nature from Disney creation Bill Nye the Science Guy, who is not only authoritative but more entertaining to boot, And most recently, we have the benefit of internet censorship to save us from wasting time learning the wrong information, I mean ideas.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  • Back in early May Google took the remarkable step of deranking our entire website, placing our many thousands of content pages near the absolute bottom of its search results, where almost no one would ever see them. If a user included the keyword "unz" in a search string, our pages would still come up, but...
  • But lying under oath to members of Congress at a public hearing is a serious felony, and I think Mr. Pichai would be well-advised to quickly investigate…

    …how Clapper got away with it:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/when_james_clapper_got_away_with_perjury.html:
    “… Director of National Intelligence James Clapper struggles to explain why he told Congress in March that the National Security Agency does not intentionally collect any kind of data on millions of Americans. “I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful, manner by saying ‘no,’” Clapper told NBC News on Sunday.”

    I believe the actual words of his denial were, “Not wittingly”.

    Some think that Mike Flynn might have initiated intelligence reform that could have caught out Clapper, so trapping Flynn may have been another component of Clapper’s escape. But Flynn’s example itself is inapplicable to an actual perjurer trying to avoid prosecution, in several respects.

  • The French anti-Zionist and civic nationalist writer Alain Soral has finally been arrested. This has been a long time coming. Apparently he was simply taken in the street by three police officers in plainclothes. According to his website Égalité & Réconciliation: A sampling of Jewish reactions: The International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism (effectively the...
  • @Iris
    @cassandra


    I quickly became a pariah to friends and family.
     
    You are right and your friends are wrong. It is a shame that people get blind as soon as President Trump is involved.

    At about the time the highly-public controversy started around Pr Raoult, the first Covid-19 contamination cluster was imported from France to North-African country Algeria.

    Apart from the obvious historic, economic and immigration shared interests, France also plays an important scientific role in support of her former colony. French "Institut Pasteur", the leading institutional epidemiological body, and equivalent to the US' CDC, mentors and aids an Algerian subsidiary of the same name.
    When the first cases were detected in Algeria for instance, the virus' genomes were sequenced in France's Institut Pasteur. France's scientific support was recognised and officially-acknowledged in Algerian official media.

    Nevertheless, from a very early stage, the Algerian health authorities publicly stated that their epidemiologists had tried Hydrochloroquine on their Covid patients, found it to work very well, and had widely used without a second thought.

    Later, when asked about "The Lancet" article which seemed to dismiss Pr Raoult's therapeutic protocols, the Algerien health minister crudely stated that the Chloroquine controversy was a "Franco-French vendetta" which presented no relevance or real value to the patients.

    Later, "The Lancet" retracted the study that allegedly proved Hydrochloroquine did not help Covid patients.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext

    Much, much worse: the reason why the study was retracted is that it was based on faked information provided by a mysterious third-party company that appeared out of nowhere and basically made up all the data, while pretending to collect it from hospitals worldwide.

    Replies: @cassandra

    Thank you for your information about the Algerian situation. I was aware what you mentioned above only from Escobar’s article. Could you perhaps recommend some similar sites or authors that report alternative news in the francophone world?

    Much, much worse: the reason why the study was retracted is that it was based on faked information provided by a mysterious third-party company that appeared out of nowhere and basically made up all the data, while pretending to collect it from hospitals worldwide.

    I’m quite familiar with the Surgisphere/Lancet retraction, as well as several other “research” studies (VA, NEJM, Oxford).

    Without exception, the negative studies are inconclusive, and none prove that HCQ is dangerous when correctly dosed. (i.e., under a gram a day for no more than 10 days.) On the other hand, reports from marginalized frontline doctors (Raoult, Zelenko in particular) are universally positive.

    A clear pattern has emerged from the publicity chaos: information sources under political influence, such as government agencies, academic and research laboratories, and mainstream media, promote anti-HCQ alarmism, while doctors who are actually using HCQ to treat patients, and who can speak without bringing their jobs into jeopardy, are enthusiastic. The hypothesis that Western big pharma is politically suppressing HCQ use has become so obvious, that this proposition is as proven as any scientific fact can be, for which the likelihood of a threat from Karl Popper’s falsifiabilty is miniscule.

    The medical and moral consequences of suppression of HCQ are not being discussed, that tens of thousands have died unnecessarily, and that untold more who have “recovered” have been seriously damaged internally. I can think of some uses for guillotines in America should you have a surplus in your Musees. Perhaps you can put 1 or 2 on ebay.

  • @Fran Taubman
    @cassandra

    Do not know who JP is. But I do not disagree with you and by uneducated I really mean unbalanced, or young and naive, impressionably. I think you can write anything you want and say anything you want vis a vie books and articles. But internet hate speech is a difficult medium, and infiltrates the thoughts of many. The same goes for the dark web. This is true of child pornography on the web, with web cams and live video. It is evil and drives people insane. Can you not see tat somethings about the web are frightening, especially when you get into satanic cults, and conspiracies?

    It is not the same as writing a book or an article. No one wants to silence free speech. But boundaries of decency need to be set. If you disagree fine. But please do not accuse me of snobbery or self exaltation that is not what I mean. You do not have to insulate bad ideas into my comments. It is not necessary for the debate.

    Every decent person is concerned about the web and free speech. In my opinion Soral is a nut job that crossed the line.

    Replies: @cassandra

    by uneducated I really mean unbalanced, or young and naive, impressionably.

    Changing the adjective doesn’t change the statement: you’re still referring to a group as if they’re not quite capable of thinking critically. Physician, heal thyself.

    You, and others like yourself who would patronize some group in this way, are yourselves exhibiting a form of impressionability. To be specific, you’ve fallen into a common propaganda trap that makes the noxious idea, that someone else’s thinking must be managed because they’re unable to do so for themselves, palatable. This disguised slur is not quite as obvious as hate speech, but it is more insidious, because it clothes political marginalization in what appear to be good intentions.

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    No one wants to silence free speech.

    …except for social media and the New York Times. How has the media history of the last 70 years, the replacement of plain speech by politically-correct phraseology, and today’s crescendo of censorship, escaped your notice?

    Can you not see tat somethings about the web are frightening, especially when you get into satanic cults, and conspiracies?

    What’s more frightening, web pornography or elite pedophilia? Until Epstein’s peccadilloes were publicized, Pizzagate, the Jimmy Saville episode in the UK, the Franklin Affair, and reports of G. W. Bush, Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew being involved, were all dismissed as “conspiracy theories.” Only afterwards were these issues taken seriously enough to be assessed critically. Trying to decide whether something is true or false by how “conspiratorial” it is doesn’t have such a good track record. (As for satanism, only the most incurious would fail to wonder at Epstein’s architectural artwork and the Podestas’ taste in spirit cuisine and art.)

    I’d much rather have an internet, warts and all, open enough to facilitate exposure of embarrassing and unsavory truths, than to see its unruliness used as an excuse for censorship. I’m a lot more worried about the dark side of elite behavior than the dark side of online behavior.

  • @Fran Taubman
    @cassandra

    You should do a blind test. Substitute Jews for blacks, Christians, or Muslims. You will find the same censorship. Some things are off limits and it does not matter what the group you are referring to. Holding up a poster with a list of Jews and saying they are responsible for starting and spreading COVID as Soral did in the video is unacceptable. Jail? We live in a century where we do not allow hate speech when it involves conspiracies that can contribute to
    violence by the uneducated. Soral is crazy. The internet and social media did not turn out the way we wanted especially regarding conspiracies.

    Replies: @cassandra

    You should do a blind test…

    You err in assuming I haven’t, and what’s more, misconstrued my point: the “same censorship” you describe was a developing trend that followed the tribunals. The tribunals were the basis for earliest declarations claiming that suppressing hate speech was a good idea. But such suppression is inconsistent in principle with free speech, and requires political repression for enforcement. If you don’t find the contemporary dystopian situation persuasive enough, ponder how that worked out in Nazi Germany, among other places. More than just Jews were sent to, and starved, in Bergen-Belsen and the Western camps.

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    Holding up a poster with a list of Jews and saying they are responsible for starting and spreading COVID as Soral did in the video is unacceptable.

    I’ll decide that for myself, thank you, and I’ll support Sorel’s right to display his list so I can.

    We live in a century where we do not allow hate speech when it involves conspiracies that can contribute to violence by the uneducated.

    This is exactly the problem: only conspiratorial hate speech and violence by “educated” demonstrators and corporate elites is condoned and encouraged.

    I’ve been making an anecdotal survey of authoritarians who claim that the “uneducated” have to be managed because of what they might do or think, and have found their attitudes arrogantly clueless.

    In the first place, I prefer to live, and support, a government which affords democratic self-management by the people, however educated they are, rather than abdicating such sovereignty as I have to some presumptive elite, on their say-so that they can do better. You may disagree. But the experiment has been done over the last 70 years or so, and the technocratic elites have presided over a civilizational suicide in the West and corruption of the public knowledge base, that has engendered a worse outcome than letting the citizens govern, or allowing the “uneducated” to speak openly.

    In the second place, rather than being overly-concerned with what the uneducated think, you should humbly examine your own prideful conceit that exalts yourself so far above your fellow man as to deem his ideas unworthy. As JP would say, clean your own room. (Gotta love the web.)

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    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    @cassandra

    Do not know who JP is. But I do not disagree with you and by uneducated I really mean unbalanced, or young and naive, impressionably. I think you can write anything you want and say anything you want vis a vie books and articles. But internet hate speech is a difficult medium, and infiltrates the thoughts of many. The same goes for the dark web. This is true of child pornography on the web, with web cams and live video. It is evil and drives people insane. Can you not see tat somethings about the web are frightening, especially when you get into satanic cults, and conspiracies?

    It is not the same as writing a book or an article. No one wants to silence free speech. But boundaries of decency need to be set. If you disagree fine. But please do not accuse me of snobbery or self exaltation that is not what I mean. You do not have to insulate bad ideas into my comments. It is not necessary for the debate.

    Every decent person is concerned about the web and free speech. In my opinion Soral is a nut job that crossed the line.

    Replies: @cassandra

  • @Iris
    @German_reader

    This statement is maybe a little excessive.

    By and large, Alain Soral is a very rational mind; he is never on the "nuts" side of the spectrum.

    His main anti-mainstream Coronavirus positions are that:
    - 1- The Covid-19 lockdown measures are more harmful than the disease.
    - 2- The pandemic is being used to prop up a secret anti-liberties agenda.
    - 3- Generic drug hydro chloroquine promoted by Pr Raoult is efficient against Covid-19, contrary to official positions.
    - 4- Former Health minister Agnes Buzyn, an eminent member of the Tribe*, was the gatekeeper of the pharmaceutical industry vested interests who set out to destroy Pr Raoult **.
    - 5- Soral only mentioned in passing, in an interview, the 2015 research article everybody knows about, elated to a virus' gain-of-function experiment.

    Out of the above, all five dissident opinions are expressed relatively "freely" by a minority of sceptics allowed in the mainstream media, with the notable exception of (4).

    Guillaume Durocher is right about Coronavirus being the most likely motive for Soral's incarceration. More specifically, one should watch for forced vaccination measures, including forced flu vaccination for the over-50.

    * Former daughter-in-law of foremost minister and WW2 camp survivor the late Simone Weil, current wife of Yves Levy, who headed INSERM, France's main medical research institute until 2018 when the conflict of interest became indefensible.

    ** Pr Raoult is not a plain Goy "victim" of the Tribe. He is married to a Jewish lady, his children raised in Jewish confessional schools, and was awarded distinguished awards by Israel.

    Replies: @cassandra

    His main anti-mainstream Coronavirus positions are that…

    I had constructed your list from my own suspicions, but I nevertheless thank you for this somewhat dismal confirmation. Associating Sorel with “conspiracy” reassures us that we’re dealing with an individual that is so mentally unbalanced that he merits confinement in the sort of politico-psychological institutions that were such a highly acclaimed feature of Soviet Stalinism.

    Pepe Escobar wrote an article back in March for Strategic Culture, giving a

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    discussion similar to yours on Didier Raoult and the HCQ controversy (I ddidn’t find it here on unz):
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/03/27/macron-big-pharma-and-covid-19/
    I read this before Trump’s recommendation (remember, the one about gulping aquarium cleaner by the handful?) so I recognized the big-pharma financial interests from the outset. I quickly became a pariah to friends and family. The situation has been so misrepresented in the MSM sphere of deception, that reality itself appears implausible, thus rendering the “conspiracy” label effective.

    Gilad Atzmon’s point that Jewish power is the power to stifle discussion of Jewish power points to the historical roots of censorship based on political repression. Everything that we experience today, including the “Holocaust” industry that arose in the 70’s, are extensions of the justifications used for passing censorship laws, jailing our most creative and original intellectuals, and categorizing free discussion as amoral defect. Sorel’s persecution is part of the same witch-trial.

    This campaign sprouted post World-War II, and its “legitimacy” relied heavily on distortions and doctoring of the Nuremberg evidence. Its immediate effect was to greatly stifle the discussions of Jewish power that percolated before then. The might of this campaign has developed by degrees into the monstrosity that intimidates us today. In a sense, you do have to be crazy to discuss well-founded conspiracies, because you such a storm of fire and brimstone will rain down on your head. As bad as antisemitic and other types of hate speech may be, the censorship and deceit have promoted such absurdly evil consequences that the only cure may be to fight for the latter to expunge the former.

    I’ll paraphrase Spinoza, once again: “In a free country, a man is free to think as he pleases and to say what he thinks. Not so much anymore, not in France, not in the West.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    @cassandra

    You should do a blind test. Substitute Jews for blacks, Christians, or Muslims. You will find the same censorship. Some things are off limits and it does not matter what the group you are referring to. Holding up a poster with a list of Jews and saying they are responsible for starting and spreading COVID as Soral did in the video is unacceptable. Jail? We live in a century where we do not allow hate speech when it involves conspiracies that can contribute to
    violence by the uneducated. Soral is crazy. The internet and social media did not turn out the way we wanted especially regarding conspiracies.

    Replies: @cassandra

    , @Iris
    @cassandra


    I quickly became a pariah to friends and family.
     
    You are right and your friends are wrong. It is a shame that people get blind as soon as President Trump is involved.

    At about the time the highly-public controversy started around Pr Raoult, the first Covid-19 contamination cluster was imported from France to North-African country Algeria.

    Apart from the obvious historic, economic and immigration shared interests, France also plays an important scientific role in support of her former colony. French "Institut Pasteur", the leading institutional epidemiological body, and equivalent to the US' CDC, mentors and aids an Algerian subsidiary of the same name.
    When the first cases were detected in Algeria for instance, the virus' genomes were sequenced in France's Institut Pasteur. France's scientific support was recognised and officially-acknowledged in Algerian official media.

    Nevertheless, from a very early stage, the Algerian health authorities publicly stated that their epidemiologists had tried Hydrochloroquine on their Covid patients, found it to work very well, and had widely used without a second thought.

    Later, when asked about "The Lancet" article which seemed to dismiss Pr Raoult's therapeutic protocols, the Algerien health minister crudely stated that the Chloroquine controversy was a "Franco-French vendetta" which presented no relevance or real value to the patients.

    Later, "The Lancet" retracted the study that allegedly proved Hydrochloroquine did not help Covid patients.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext

    Much, much worse: the reason why the study was retracted is that it was based on faked information provided by a mysterious third-party company that appeared out of nowhere and basically made up all the data, while pretending to collect it from hospitals worldwide.

    Replies: @cassandra

  • If Britain were a healthy society the #Wiley saga would have triggered an open discussion about race and privilege. Wiley would be invited to BBC Newsnight, he would be challenged by one of BBC’s anchors, he would be confronted by one or two representatives of the Jewish community, he would have a chance to explain...
  • @Al Liguori, @SaneClownPosse, , @Pheasant, @Ilya G Poimadres, @Owen C.

    Leaving you Gilad just writing to say goodbye.

    Oh, drat.

    I want to thank you all for your comments on Taubman’s postings. I learned a lot from your rebuttals to her misrepresentations, and found the back-and-forth thought-provoking.

    I do hope she comes back, and that she provokes another similarly fruitful firestorm of interesting exchanges. Great example of how free speech supports free thought.

    Thanks 😉

  • @Fran Taubman
    @Pheasant

    He was 90 wears old when he said the racist stuff. Many thought he had dementia. His racist comments did not represent his lifetime of work which was formidable about Jewish law. The content of his writings were important having nothing to do with racism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @anon, @cassandra

    He was 90 wears old when he said the racist stuff. Many thought he had dementia.

    Still, he wasn’t forgotten by everybody as you originally claimed, was he? I worry that you might be suffering from dementia yourself. Pheasant’s main point, that a million Israelis attended his funeral, has somehow slipped your mind.

  • YOU FLY into London on a British Airways plane on which you are shown an animated film about safety. It stars a cartoon Black man with his cartoon White wife and their cartoon mixed-race child. You pass through immigration control and are poked and probed by Brown people wearing hijabs and turbans who jabber at...
  • @TimeTraveller
    Did the dinosaurs squeal this much when they went extinct? How much sympathy do you want me to have for a nation that preferred conquest and colonialism to trade?
    China deserves to rule the world.

    Replies: @Just another serf, @Wally, @cassandra, @Jack Antonio

    The over-confidence you display can only come from being unaware of your own ignorance. Have you ever heard of the Qing dynasty?

    • Replies: @anon
    @cassandra

    You are new to the internet aren't you?
    That's called a troll.
    Does Mom know you're on here?