Pollution sure is an important issue, one of the most important of our time, yes. The subject matter at hand though, is mostly military, with economics as a condiment to explain the sour taste. China might be the one manufacturing plastic turds, but it is the so-called western media that is teaching your children the dire need to own the latest version of plastic poop. China would not bother with plastic poop, but you voted for people who decided China makes the best poo at the lowest cost and highest profit. Don't blame China for taking advantage of YOUR leadership's desire to disown YOU and hand your habitat over to those who "know how to make a profit" from your suffering, while dangling a piece of plastic poop in front of you, calling it ambition, and deplatforming you if you refuse their offer of improved turdiness.
But yah, now we know you hate pollution. Soon we will close down all the factories, and ban all cars, and only those on "official business" will be alowed on aeroplanes, and then you can breathe freely, as you stand in line, so the Special Agents can see if you have the Bill Gates vaccine licence to visit the plastic poop and soylent green depository that we used to call a supermarket.

Replies: @JohnPlywood

Ok Karen

Spot on. Humans are drowning in their own filth. There's an adage, "don't shit where you eat." Humans invented the saying but apparently don't abide by it and in fact zealously defy it. Here we are. It will be one pandemic after another from now until human is no more. Rapid pace, like automatic weapon fire. The center cannot hold and is not holding. Civilization is going down. Will the Samson Option be utilized? Man's last act? Destroy the planet entirely if he can't have it entirely? My bet is this is how it will go down. All you have to do is extrapolate the curve.

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Replies: @mike99588

Not quite true. Ecological damage is reversible and, ironically, it's the Chinese showing the world how to:

- Beijing and other northern cities have vastly improved air quality today compared to what it was in the 2000s.
- China's main rivers and key lakes and reservoirs have all shown improvement in the last 10 years.
- China has won vast swathes of land from the desert through reforestation and for agricultural purposes.

Of course, there is still lots of pollution going on in China (since they're not returning to pre-industrial times), but the overall quality of the various ecosystems present in their country have improved immensely when compared to the 2000s. Not everything about the relationship between humans and nature must be negative; you need only look to China's Loess Plateau or their Saihanba forest to see what kind of dramatically positive change humanity can affect vis-a-vis their environment. I believe similar positive approaches regarding ecology can be applied elsewhere too — both inside and outside of China. The point, however, is that you need political & economical efforts from the top working in conjunction with the support of the local community for such positive green initiatives to become a reality.

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