RSSImagine being Anatoliy Karlin and thinking that because Ballot boxes weren’t stuffed (which is in itself a debatable proposition but we will accept it for the sake of argument), that having US advisors, strategists and money won’t change the election results in your favor. Which the ‘data’ (if Clinton archives are to be believed) shows – around the time when Clinton started helping Yeltsin, there was a turnaround of Yeltsin’s fortunes, compared to the KPRF which for all intents and purposes did no campaigning lol
Yes, I privilege official Russian statistics
Which is your error. As Bashibuzuk demonstrated to you on numerous occasions that ‘official statistics’ do not paint the full picture. As most women go to private clinics for abortions anyway.
over the rants of an embittered emigre
I am not an emigre. I live in Asia and use a VPN lol
many “powerful” ideas on all sorts of topics
Says the guy with a blog on an obscure site trying to justify his ‘powerful’ ideas on all sorts of topics with ‘statistics’ lol
As Mark Twain said, “There’s lies, damn lies and statistics”.
The definition a “rigged” election hinges on whether ballot stuffing
Definition of “Rigged” according to who? Anatoliy Karlin? Wasn’t aware he was an ‘authority’ on election rigging.
Besides you want to tell me that supporting favored candidates with money, propaganda, staffers, and advisors is not ‘rigging’? Okay then.
the like changes its results relative to what they would have been in its absence
Which is why the KPRF was doing much better than Yeltsin until Clinton started helping him, as ‘official data’ from the Clinton archives shows. Clintons help turned the situation around entirely for Yeltsin. Even Medvedev admits it. Oh wait, you ignore that because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
God damn you’re a shit for brains moron. Or entirely dishonest. I can’t tell which.
I was referring to Bashibuzuk. I couldn't care less about your status.
I am not an emigre. I live in Asia and use a VPN lol
Literally correct.
Besides you want to tell me that supporting favored candidates with money, propaganda, staffers, and advisors is not ‘rigging’? Okay then.
Do you know how i know that this poll is wrong? Afghanistan is famous for "green on blue attacks". Basically an afghan soldier or a policeman will suddenly start shooting at his "comrades" or at americans.If you followed the war, you would know that every week there was an attack of the sort "a soldier/policeman killed his comrades at the checkpoint and brought their equipment to the Taliban". It was a very common occurrence in the conflict.And the were more such insider attacks in Afghanistan than in Iraq. Very dangerous. US special forces got owned in such attacks too, and even the commander of US forces Gen Miller barely escaped such an ambush.Replies: @Philip Owen, @Xi-jinping
The percentage of Afghans who said they sympathized with the Taliban in 2019 was just 13%, shrinking to 8% in Kabul.
Karlin relies too much on ‘polls’ or ‘statistics’ that he digs up from somewhere. Many of these ‘statistics’ do not give context or are devoid entirely of nuance. In fact looking at ‘statistics’ only obfuscates the picture even more because ‘statistics’ can be easily manipulated, or if its not misses many contextual issues that can be only obtained by trying to understand the situation from a more empirical context.
He made the same error regarding the ‘fall’ in abortions in russia – because official statistics showed they decreased, but did not account for them moving to private clinics rather than government owned clinics.
Same with they Yeltsin 1996 – where he gets fixated on votes by region rather than seeing the big picture that the election was ‘rigged’ in so much as Yeltsin had support from the US and was essentially a US puppet. Whether the ballot boxes were stuffed is irrelevant.
The percentage of Afghans who said they sympathized with the Taliban in 2019 was just 13%, shrinking to 8% in Kabul.
Do you know how i know that this poll is wrong? Afghanistan is famous for “green on blue attacks”. Basically an afghan soldier or a policeman will suddenly start shooting at his “comrades” or at americans.
If you followed the war, you would know that every week there was an attack of the sort “a soldier/policeman killed his comrades at the checkpoint and brought their equipment to the Taliban”. It was a very common occurrence in the conflict.
And the were more such insider attacks in Afghanistan than in Iraq. Very dangerous. US special forces got owned in such attacks too, and even the commander of US forces Gen Miller barely escaped such an ambush.
Also, a strong Taliban that agrees to keep terrorist out of Xinjiang in exchange for Chinese investment also plays to increasing stability at China’s borders and to further bringing the region under its influence (China has strong influence over Pakistan due to BRI), Taliban rule only strengthens this further (particularly if the Taliban continues to cooperate).
The rapidity and efficiency with which the Taliban took over Afghanistan (Kabul in particular), their discipline when taking the Presidents Palace, their ability and desire to work with Russia (they took it upon themselves to protect the Russian consulate)/China (agreed to Chinese investments) and Iran indicate that they are going to be an efficient state (this is unlikely to change at least for one generation).
I think you are unnecessarily pessimistic about the future of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Everything we’ve seen of them so far suggests that they intend to govern Afghanistan as a proper state, and not as the radical militia we saw in the 90s (though of course intentions aren’t always actualised). Put simply, they seem to have matured as an organisation. Both in military terms, able to perform coordinated multi-front offensives in a reasonably organised fashion, and from a governance perspective too — they have long had a political office in Doha and have prospective governors and other government officials lined up. 20 years of war is likely to make any organisation more pragmatic — just look at how their Islamist rhetoric has moderated. Even the Hazara regions simply rolled over for them, which is obviously as a result of their multi-decade effort to become more than radical islamist Pashtuns (I believe they even have a Shia Hazara in a high position internally).
Plus, soon-to-be President Ghani Baradar was not just in China, but in Iran and Russia too. If I recall right the Russians had good things to say about the productivity and professionalism of their dialogue.
Wouldn't that be evidence for the opposite?
Is it just me, but i have noticed that in a lot of American shows the “good guys” speak with British accent? Especially if they are white and male.If so, i think US is purposefully diminishing its role as a global culture hub.
While you're agonising over what fits your label of "Japanese" or "American", someone else is selling a lot of sushi.
Even though the label still says ‘made in America’. But is sushi an American culture just because there’s a Japanese restaurant on every corner in US? I think it would be stretching it. I would argue sushi is still Japanese culture, even if made in America.
US cultural products only seem to fail this way by being too early. Some people take this as evidence that the US is forcing everyone down the same cultural agenda, but I'd say they're just good at getting ahead of the flow.
Will this cosmopolitan mix sell well globally?
Bangladeshi peasants don't want "prestige" US films, but I bet they like Fast & Furious.
I mean, do Bangladeshi peasants really care about race relations in the US?
It remains a hub because it is a global vision. Or perhaps, because the people making stuff have global vision and see what is coming next.Replies: @Xi-jinping
So i guess i would argue US as a country isn’t really a hub anymore. It has been replaced by a more global vision
It remains a hub because it is a global vision.
Global vision? US doesn’t have a global vision. It has momentum. Due to being the dominant cultural force for the better part of 50 years, people are accustomed to US media and it continues to use this to spread its ideas. However, at this point I think that US culture is beginning to lose appeal and is slowing down – especially with the rise of Asia and asian powers beginning to replace it (look at how Saudi Arabia allowed BTS concerts, whereas it would not allow US bands to perform. Moroever, look at how North Korea allowed a South Korean band to perform but not a US band)
China is using its national champions like Tencent to set it up for future cultural dominance. Rather than buying up newspapers and TV stations (that would have met opposition in other countries), Tencent is buying up video game companies the world over and nobody is the wiser. This is a clever play to control the mass medium of the future – mainly video games. Tencent is making a bet that video games are the future. We will see if they made a good bet.
Not really. Those laws are nuanced and mainly meant to act as protectionist measures and to not have any directly seditious materials produced (like Leviathan).
I’ve watched many similiar movies and they have even had excellent critical acclaim within China as well.
I don’t know why everyone is surprised by this trend. I wrote about it multiple times in comments on this blog. The reason for LGBT spread is very much the same reason for low TFRs. Just like women have been brainwashed by media not to have kids, because they view having kids as ‘not modern’ or ‘not fashionable’, so too do younger generations view ‘being gay/supporting LGBT’ as ‘fashionable’ as that is the predominant media trend and is very much a symptom of US cultural hegemony. This is also why places with strong exposure to US culture will have coincidentally low TFRs and also tend to be the gayest. Adjacent countries will have youth consuming US media because it is viewed as the ‘cool’ thing to do and therefore adopt these views – which accounts for why China is so pro-LGBT – there is a strong western worship contingent amongst the Youth there. Especially given the fact that many Chinese go back and forth between China and Western countries and bring these ideas with them.
A smart government can reverse this trend by flooding its media spaces with the opposite propaganda.
The data it seems is only confirming what I said earlier.
Most homos become become homos because they were fondled or otherwise had some sort of sexual experience first imposed on them by older homos, such has always been the case. Male sexual preferences are determined in large part but initial foundational experiences.
It’s quite stunning. Only 57% of American zoomers identify as totally heterosexual, versus 95% of boomers. There can only be one explanation for such a rapid change in historical time. Genetic explanations of homosexuality are not very convincing as it is (they impose extremely large reproductive costs), but even that aside, there is no way that this could have happened in a couple of generations. Cultural fad is the most succinct explanation.
The theory that somehow early sexual abuse creates homos or causes ‘trauma’ seems rather strange to me…how can a child who doesn’t understand the greater implications of what is happening be ‘traumatized’ by it, especially if its not a painful but rather is a pleasant event?
Rather it seems it becomes a problem in retrospect, after social conditioning gets its hands on them or alternatively when they want to win pity points.
Laws against paedophillia was the original #MeToo trend?
how can a child who doesn’t understand the greater implications of what is happening be ‘traumatized’ by it, especially if its not a painful but rather is a pleasant event?
What jobs can they take when much of them can be automated? That is why many are advocating for UBI to "absorb" the masses of excess labor made obsolete. Which will go away when state organizational ability and/or remaining institutional trust vaporizes (what happens at the end of Late Antiquity)
Then those jobs are pointless and should be automated or eliminated through organizational changes.
I think libertarians and indeed many economists suggests reduction on both taxation and budget, which is basically removing state functions and putting them back into the market/civil society. You can debate whether this will lead to better outcomes (it is downstream from what social structures you have), but budget deficits are not inevitable.
So no, “people still working” never paid for those outlays and never will. That’s what budget deficit means.
There have been many free markets but those are efficient when culture and ideology enable them. Fiat currency was a choice made by the American Imperialists and it can be changed (in fact there are shifts to crypto which are sounder than fiat). Our survival depends on real production, which can seldom be stimulated by money printing, but mostly independent and often hindered by inflationism.
No such thing as free market and never was. We live in a fiat currency world and that means we must print money to survive.
This is of course bad. Which is why there is the concept of 100% reserves, i.e. muggle saving money.
Your choices are: 1) neoliberalism where by definition commercial banking system prints magic fiat and gives it as credit lines to the rich and corporations;
That will approach some sort of central planning which can work suboptimally for some time and have serious inbalances building up later on.
or 2) state driven development and aggregate demand support where central banks print exact same magic fiat and give it as credit lines to the government.
It is actually a good thing to experiment economic theories since they will all fail. But
Neoliberalism has been dead since 2008. We are entirely state and central bank driven now. Giving free money to the rich is less efficient than giving free money to the poor, so income support for the poor is a better policy choice.
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US then built the most powerful economy in the world through state investment and planning
It has been systematically repressed and we need to see for 3-6 months for the inevitable upward adjustment.
That’s not what US government bonds are saying. US government can borrow at 1.3% and market can’t get enough of government debt. It is irresponsible to not give market what it craves.
That will approach some sort of central planning which can work suboptimally for some time and have serious inbalances building up later on.
No. Central planning is precisely what makes a powerful and functional economy. It gives a ‘goal’ for the economy to move towards. A bunch of people doing many things at once is unproductive and a waste of resources. ALL states that produced ‘economic miracles’ from the US, to the USSR, to Japan, South Korea and China used Central Planning. “Free market” only works when there is a certain baseline established. Removing government functions and putting it into the hands of the ‘free market’ is only a recipe for disaster.
As a kind of Hermetic, I do like him but I think he allowed his worship of the Sun element to be a bit too extensive. The Jupiterian aspect, without counterbalance, can lead one to some unusual ideas into hubris.Replies: @Xi-Jinping, @Morton's toes
It was Evola's custom to walk around the city of Vienna during bombing raids in order to better "ponder his destiny". During one such raid, 1945, a shell fragment damaged his spinal cord and he became paralyzed from the waist down, remaining so for the rest of his life.
food, but their population are too small for warfare.
I suggest you read the article then. They may not be nomadic tribes but they are far from an agricultural civilization. In the article I posted it says that what surproised Chagnon the most was the ever present pervasive state of warfare the tribes had. Also, roving bands of gatherers have non-permanent settlements sinilar to nomads. This is more applicable to the Yanomamo. But point is that even though population where small, they all still fought constantly.
As a kind of Hermetic, I do like him but I think he allowed his worship of the Sun element to be a bit too extensive. The Jupiterian aspect, without counterbalance, can lead one to some unusual ideas into hubris.
Yes I agree, however this was not the reason I brought up Evola. He has a very good definition of Aristocracy that was applicable to the situation.
No, AaronB is talking about hunter-gatherer bands.Hunter-gatherers lacked the resources for significant warfare capacity. You can look at the wandering tribes of Native Americans - who had quite brutal histories, but the populations were really quite small and so the actual scope of murder was surprisingly limited. They did have brutal warfare at times, much as even chimpanzees did, but they did not have the resources and time to specialize individuals into a dedicated soldier-caste.It would really take agriculture for that to happen - the start of settled chiefdoms, which allowed for wealth to exist in the form of grain, and the existence of a strongman chiefdom and an entourage of warriors, where you get things like the Fierce People and 70-80% mortality among men by warfare.I think Aaron has voiced at times an opposition to agriculture. This idea is also echoed by the novel "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn, that settled life and agriculture led to a vast change in society and exploitation of nature(of "Takers" going beyond "Leavers.")Replies: @Xi-jinping
A stone age lifestyle is characterized by rule by sheer strength – might is right. The only law is the law of the jungle – an eye for an eye and what you can take and hold.
Hunter-gatherers lacked the resources for significant warfare capacity.
Look at the yamamato tribes. They engage in constant warfare with their neighbors for resources – mainly women. They are ruled by a band of strongmen (the mightiest warriors). This was the case for hunter gatherer bands in general in the stone age – which is what I was referring to.
individuals into a dedicated soldier-caste.
Again, look at the yamamato tribes – they have a dedicated soldier caste that rule the tribes and fathers want to marry off their daughters to this caste. These are not city states.
the start of settled chiefdoms, which allowed for wealth to exist in the form of grain, and the existence of a strongman chiefdom and an entourage of warriors, where you get things like the Fierce People and 70-80% mortality among men by warfare.
Hunter gatherer societies were based around a group of men who had sufficient strength and knowledge to defend their tribe from slaughter by wild animals or other tribes (for example to take their women). Those men who could not participate in warfare where of lower status.
https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/the-yanomamo-and-the-origins-of-male-honor/
As a kind of Hermetic, I do like him but I think he allowed his worship of the Sun element to be a bit too extensive. The Jupiterian aspect, without counterbalance, can lead one to some unusual ideas into hubris.Replies: @Xi-Jinping, @Morton's toes
It was Evola's custom to walk around the city of Vienna during bombing raids in order to better "ponder his destiny". During one such raid, 1945, a shell fragment damaged his spinal cord and he became paralyzed from the waist down, remaining so for the rest of his life.
The Evolian conception of aristocracy and nobility had nothing to do with what you mentioned. Which is why I suggest you read “Revolt Against the Modern World”. But I will briefly summarize his conception of aristocracy. Aristocracy in his conception was primairly spiritual. As was the concept of race. He was was racist in so much as different races where archetypes for a particular person. For example a negro/jew is viewed as a somebody that is petty, conniving and lying. The exact opposite of an aristocrat of the soul.
According to Evola, modern man lacks a laundry list of virtues, but only two are absolutely essential for societal health and success. These are the virtue types that correspond to what Julius Evola termed “True Virility.” They are, Heroism (warrior bravery) and Asceticism (transcendent discipline). Without some measure of these two components, man will fail to achieve true manhood.
Those with a shard of this “True Virility” are termed “Aristocrats of the soul” or are aristocratic in general.
According to this definition, AP is not aristocratic. As I have said.
but the ability to coordinate information, work with a number of individuals, and accurately make decision
And yet AP is a sophist and frequently presents incorrect information as ‘correct’ information, and dismissing facts to the contrary if it does not suit his narrative – as my previous debates with him have shown. So even by this metric he falls short.
much more than the notion of an army that marches upon its biceps or genitals, however protuberant or vast they may be
Logistics and coordination is important – but if we speak of Roman legions or Greek hoplites – often they would refuse to follow those who did not exhibit heroic qualities and promote those who did to emperor. As we saw with Juilius Casear for example.
Then again, much of the aristocracy didn’t engage in leadership, much of it was just small time landowners who didn’t even have any peasant working for them and didn’t even fight. And if they did, it was mostly as foot soldiers. In other words most of the medieval aristocracy was useless. And if AP was a big name, he sure as hell wouldn’t be living a middle class life in America.
LOL. Evola was the descendant of a carpenter on his father's side and a shopkeeper on his mother's side. His claim of being a "baron" was theatrical pretense, based on the fact that there once existed a D'Evoli baronial family that died out (merged into the D'Afflitto family) sometime during the middle ages. So we have here on Unz the spectacle of a proud human dildo taking lessons in "aristocracy" from a shopkeeper's and carpenter's grandson.Replies: @Svevlad
The Evolian conception of aristocracy and nobility
You are confusing cause and effect - "the cause" that leads women to being 'exposed to the idea that different options exist' comes about as a result of how this technology is employed.
I think that improvements in mass media technology (from movies to TV to cable TV to the internet) inevitably led to changes in gender roles. They exposed women to the idea that different options existed.
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Improvements in contraceptive technology are an example of technological development inevitably leading to changes in gender roles
Another way of looking at it is that improvements in transportation technology changed how food can be distributed meaning it became even easier for women to have kids as they didn't need to work in the fields anymore as they did in the past.
Improvements in transportation technology (first railways then cars) changed people’s whole concept of what a community was, which in turn inevitably led to changes in gender roles.
Technology is a tool that can be employed either to push society in one direction or another – it does not inevitably lead to changing of gender roles – it can be instead used in solidifying gender roles if used properly.
Exactly.
If I show women that careerism is the only choice and use mass media to make fun of having children – that is what they will believe.
If I show the opposite – then that is what women believe.
Yes, if merchants are in power – then career women
If Brahmins – then muh STEM grilz bro
Kshatriyas – then:
The activities I most enjoy are perfectly consistent with a Stone Age lifestyle.
A stone age lifestyle is characterized by rule by sheer strength – might is right. The only law is the law of the jungle – an eye for an eye and what you can take and hold. And men’s minds where ruled by both superstition and wonder. Something that no longer exists.
From your previous comments on this thread, you do not subscribe to this view and thus you do not support a stone age lifestyle as you abhor any form of might.
No, AaronB is talking about hunter-gatherer bands.Hunter-gatherers lacked the resources for significant warfare capacity. You can look at the wandering tribes of Native Americans - who had quite brutal histories, but the populations were really quite small and so the actual scope of murder was surprisingly limited. They did have brutal warfare at times, much as even chimpanzees did, but they did not have the resources and time to specialize individuals into a dedicated soldier-caste.It would really take agriculture for that to happen - the start of settled chiefdoms, which allowed for wealth to exist in the form of grain, and the existence of a strongman chiefdom and an entourage of warriors, where you get things like the Fierce People and 70-80% mortality among men by warfare.I think Aaron has voiced at times an opposition to agriculture. This idea is also echoed by the novel "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn, that settled life and agriculture led to a vast change in society and exploitation of nature(of "Takers" going beyond "Leavers.")Replies: @Xi-jinping
A stone age lifestyle is characterized by rule by sheer strength – might is right. The only law is the law of the jungle – an eye for an eye and what you can take and hold.
His analogies seem to be rather clear and correct, and moreover beautifully written, at least to me. He’s just pointing out that hierarchies are omnipresent, and they increase in complexity as society becomes more complex and beautiful.
I find that he veils his political platform behind the vaguest analogies I’ve ever read, makes a few barely relevant anecdotal observations
You make a good case but I still think the chances are 50/50 either way. If he were bright you would more likely be correct. But he is a simpleton. I would also add some narcissism into the mix. So he is too simple to hide himself, and to understand that it is funny and pathetic for someone to brag about spending a lot of time in the gym exercising for the sake of being able to serve as a living dildo for hundreds of loose women. And he is narcissistic enough to want to brag about this “triumph.” But it is equally likely that he is a clueless guy who is putting on a sad show. In which case I wish him the very best in changing and improving.Replies: @Xi-jinping
the problem with you calling him a “sociopath” before, an accurate description of his persona, is that it is exactly what he is trying to convince you is actually him. You are validating his false identity. He obviously isn’t a sociopath in the “I just use people and haver no feelings sense”, because he would hide it.
But he is a simpleton. I would also add some narcissism into the mix
Judging by your comments on this site as a whole, I think you describe yourself. You were called a sophist at one point – where you not? And I think for good reason.
brag about spending a lot of time in the gym exercising for the sake of being able to serve as a living dildo for hundreds of loose women.
Firstly you put words in my mouth that I never said. I said I workout, but never specified my motivations.
Like I said, you are too simple to realize that you are envious of a person with a great body because you do not have the discipline to get off your ass and exercise, and likely weren’t popular with women in your youth – hence are jealous of those who are – because I promise you if you had the opportunity to be with many beautiful women you would have taken it. But you didn’t, so here you are with Sour Grape Syndrome.
Improvements in contraceptive technology are an example of technological development inevitably leading to changes in gender roles.
I do not see why technological development would inevitably lead to change in gender roles.
I think that improvements in mass media technology (from movies to TV to cable TV to the internet) inevitably led to changes in gender roles. They exposed women to the idea that different options existed.
You are confusing cause and effect – “the cause” that leads women to being ‘exposed to the idea that different options exist’ comes about as a result of how this technology is employed.
If I show women that careerism is the only choice and use mass media to make fun of having children – that is what they will believe.
If I show the opposite – then that is what women believe.
Its in the manner that the tool is employed that matters.
Improvements in contraceptive technology are an example of technological development inevitably leading to changes in gender roles
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Contraceptive technology would lead to a decline in fertility but would not lead to changes in gender roles, as it did not (and does not) in many traditional societies or in the USSR for example.
The cultural software plays a big role in how contraceptives are viewed.
Improvements in transportation technology (first railways then cars) changed people’s whole concept of what a community was, which in turn inevitably led to changes in gender roles.
Another way of looking at it is that improvements in transportation technology changed how food can be distributed meaning it became even easier for women to have kids as they didn’t need to work in the fields anymore as they did in the past.
Technology is a tool that can be employed either to push society in one direction or another – it does not inevitably lead to changing of gender roles – it can be instead used in solidifying gender roles if used properly.
Exactly.
Technology is a tool that can be employed either to push society in one direction or another – it does not inevitably lead to changing of gender roles – it can be instead used in solidifying gender roles if used properly.
Yes, if merchants are in power - then career women
If I show women that careerism is the only choice and use mass media to make fun of having children – that is what they will believe.
If I show the opposite – then that is what women believe.
Its in the manner that the tool is employed that matters.
I understand what you're saying but I don't agree. I think that most of the time it's the nature of the technology itself that determines how it ends up being used.
Technology is a tool that can be employed either to push society in one direction or another – it does not inevitably lead to changing of gender roles – it can be instead used in solidifying gender roles if used properly.
I am sorry you have penis envy and hate everything virile and masculine. I can’t imagine how this envy must feel.
Its understood by almost everyone but you. Why? Because you are a woman, and probably shouldn't be on this forum.
It means that you communicate in a way which is understood as intended.
LOL cute. I don't care for your 'sympathy' *facepalm*
yet I seem to be the only one who has the desire to treat you with sympathy.
LOL. What performance? Honestly sounds like penis envy.
You are playing to the closest thing you may ever have to a crowd which is open to your performance, and nobody is buying it. This is what communicating ineffectively mean
I am sorry that you feel despised by women.
AP is literally of aristocratic extraction. In a better world, he is a nobleman.Replies: @Xi-jinping, @sher singh
In a healthier and more beautiful society (like say that of the Ancient Greeks), people like AP would be ostracized for their envy.
He may be from noble stock, but he is not of noble character or body or spirit.
In the Platonic conception of society, nobility has a physical and spiritual component. Judging by APs comments regarding a beautiful physique (and in general), he is not aristocratic in demeanor at all.
Neither is he aristocratic in the Evolian sense. He lacks any sort of nobility of the soul or virility. I cannot fathom how anyone can see him as an ‘aristocrat’
So I think that my assessment is correct – in a more beautiful (platonic/evolian) world he would be ostracized or turned into a peasant.
It means that you communicate in a way which is understood as intended.
And what does ‘communicate in a more effective manner’ even mean? That is just word salad
It means that you communicate in a way which is understood as intended.
Its understood by almost everyone but you. Why? Because you are a woman, and probably shouldn’t be on this forum.
yet I seem to be the only one who has the desire to treat you with sympathy.
LOL cute. I don’t care for your ‘sympathy’ *facepalm*
You are playing to the closest thing you may ever have to a crowd which is open to your performance, and nobody is buying it. This is what communicating ineffectively mean
LOL. What performance? Honestly sounds like penis envy.
I feel like Laxa has penis envy and any outpouring of masculine virilism is met with the her desire to put a stop to it.
This female desire to kick men in the dick whether literally
By censorsing male speech
Taking men’s money in a divorce
Or just shitting on masculine excess
Women don’t have a phallus so they are always trying to rob men of having one while trying to become the phallus.
So basically women want to ban the masculine while becoming a cum-less impotent dildo version of it
The erect penis is despised by the woman for its virility and ability to upset the sterile corporate status quo. However women have no problem giving each other infertile dildos.
Women are phalusless (gay impotent) and the more women are in an organization there are they (impotent gay phalusless) the organization is.
I don't know if that's true, but one of the funnier observations I remember from being in many groups is that female dominated groups typically end up as lesbian/transexual led groups, with the funniest example being that the "XX" subreddit apparently having almost its entire moderation staff consisting of MtF transexuals. And of course, le discord moderator jokes - which seems validated in my experience. In this, we learn that apparently, men are the best women. :PReplies: @Pericles
Women are phalusless (gay impotent) and the more women are in an organization there are they (impotent gay phalusless) the organization is.
This reads like the words of a jealous man, a man who wished he had a good physique and was full of strength and beauty, yet lacks it. You sound envious and I am sorry for you.
has worked so hard building up his physique so that he can serve as a dildo for hundreds of women.
More words of envy. What makes you think there isn't love and warm relations with these women? (Rhetorical question)
dildo for hundreds of women
He is probably a tool in all other areas of his life, too. In a healthier and more beautiful society he would be a hardworking honest peasant, or a foot-soldier.It is jealous/envious men that are usually the 'tools'. Sorry to break it to you. I promise you, I have a great career and earn more than most people here in all likelihood. This post confirms what I already suspected - AP is a small man who thinks he is smarter than he is as well as adding envy to that. I would be glad to be proven wrong, but I do not think I am based on what you write. In fact, it seems to me you are simping towards Laxa - for what purpose I cannot fathom.In a healthier and more beautiful society (like say that of the Ancient Greeks), people like AP would be ostracized for their envy.Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anatoly Karlin
In a healthier and more beautiful society (like say that of the Ancient Greeks), people like AP would be ostracized for their envy.
AP is literally of aristocratic extraction. In a better world, he is a nobleman.
A nonsensical reply. Again, I merely mentioned things about myself to prove a point, not to convince some internet stranger let alone a woman of anything.
My guess is that he is a young fantasist. It isn’t that real individuals, like he describes himself, don’t exist, it is that, even if they felt they needed to convince strangers on the internet of their truth, they would communicate in a more effective manner.
Typical feminine shaming language. Sounds like you yourself are abusive towards men in your own life. Which is why I said that you are emotionally broken and hate men.
immaturity
I would ask that you don't speak of my mother. Another guy speaking in such a manner about my mother would have his face caved in.
I would guess that his mother has distinct problems with emotional regulation
LOL. Laxa, you don't understand men very well. You write from a feminine perspective, and its wrong. I don't see the need or have the desire to scream like a headless chicken, or release crocodile tears to get sympathy from strangers. Doesn't mean I don't 'express my emotions'. Like what does that statement even mean lmao
and his home environment was unsafe for his own emotional expression.
Thanks for trying to dissect my personality. Problem is your "analysis" makes little sense. You use some weird 'therapy talk' mumbo jumbo that is popular right now, but has no relation to how actual psychiatry works.
Just an observations and exploration of an interesting phenomena, but the problem with you calling him a “sociopath” before, an accurate description of his persona, is that it is exactly what he is trying to convince you is actually him. You are validating his false identity. He obviously isn’t a sociopath in the “I just use people and have no feelings sense”, because he would hide it.
Ah here's the crux of the issue. You knew a WOMAN. You don't know men.
I knew a woman who was like that
More mumbo jumbo that makes no sense lol
He isn’t like my female friend at all. She had to really care for you to try to convince you of her sociopathy, in order to protect you from herself. You’d have to be cared for so much, that it broke the wall separating her conscious from her unconscious. This was the closest she could get to an expression of love – to momentarily break free of those bounds, solely in order to desperately keep that loved one away.
And what does ‘communicate in a more effective manner’ even mean? That is just word salad
It means that you communicate in a way which is understood as intended.
You are on a board which has commenters who are far more sympathetic to your persona than is the mainstream; yet I seem to be the only one who has the desire to treat you with sympathy.
I also don’t think that anyone has the impression that you are this ultra-successful, extremely dashing and wise Chad, that you want them to believe.
You are playing to the closest thing you may ever have to a crowd which is open to your performance, and nobody is buying it. This is what communicating ineffectively means.
Its understood by almost everyone but you. Why? Because you are a woman, and probably shouldn't be on this forum.
It means that you communicate in a way which is understood as intended.
LOL cute. I don't care for your 'sympathy' *facepalm*
yet I seem to be the only one who has the desire to treat you with sympathy.
LOL. What performance? Honestly sounds like penis envy.
You are playing to the closest thing you may ever have to a crowd which is open to your performance, and nobody is buying it. This is what communicating ineffectively mean
I disagree. I find that he veils his political platform behind the vaguest analogies I've ever read, makes a few barely relevant anecdotal observations and avoids giving direct answers to questions, but, this means that if he is only saying what is, rather than what should be, he is saying nothing at all.It strikes me as cowardice and sophism, though likely internal.I'd be very happy to be wrong.
His argument comes across as an observation.
My guess is that he is a young fantasist. It isn't that real individuals, like he describes himself, don't exist, it is that, even if they felt they needed to convince strangers on the internet of their truth, they would communicate in a more effective manner. He's also familiar with one of the ways in which women can be disproportionately cruel and abusive. Given his immaturity, I would guess that his mother has distinct problems with emotional regulation and his home environment was unsafe for his own emotional expression. This isn't that rare, but it is also not nearly as common as his ideological outlook implies.Just an observation and exploration of an interesting phenomena, but the problem with you calling him a "sociopath" before, an accurate description of his persona, is that it is exactly what he is trying to convince you is actually him. You are validating his false identity. He obviously isn't a sociopath in the "I just use people and have no feelings sense", because he would hide it. I knew a woman who was like that and she structured her entire persona around hiding it. It was highly effective at masking her conscious self, even if there was an extremely hurt little girl below even that.What's the true face of a young man who feels he needs to hide behind a sociopathic mask? What life experiences would teach him that he needs to convince everyone that he has no emotional needs of others?He isn't like my female friend at all. She had to really care for you to try to convince you of her sociopathy, in order to protect you from herself. You'd have to be cared for so much, that it broke the wall separating her conscious from her unconscious. This was the closest she could get to an expression of love - to momentarily break free of those bounds, solely in order to desperately keep that loved one away.Replies: @Xi-jinping, @AaronB, @utu, @AP
“Xi-jingping”
My guess is that he is a young fantasist. It isn’t that real individuals, like he describes himself, don’t exist, it is that, even if they felt they needed to convince strangers on the internet of their truth, they would communicate in a more effective manner.
A nonsensical reply. Again, I merely mentioned things about myself to prove a point, not to convince some internet stranger let alone a woman of anything.
And what does ‘communicate in a more effective manner’ even mean? That is just word salad
immaturity
Typical feminine shaming language. Sounds like you yourself are abusive towards men in your own life. Which is why I said that you are emotionally broken and hate men.
I would guess that his mother has distinct problems with emotional regulation
I would ask that you don’t speak of my mother. Another guy speaking in such a manner about my mother would have his face caved in.
and his home environment was unsafe for his own emotional expression.
LOL. Laxa, you don’t understand men very well. You write from a feminine perspective, and its wrong. I don’t see the need or have the desire to scream like a headless chicken, or release crocodile tears to get sympathy from strangers. Doesn’t mean I don’t ‘express my emotions’. Like what does that statement even mean lmao
Just an observations and exploration of an interesting phenomena, but the problem with you calling him a “sociopath” before, an accurate description of his persona, is that it is exactly what he is trying to convince you is actually him. You are validating his false identity. He obviously isn’t a sociopath in the “I just use people and have no feelings sense”, because he would hide it.
Thanks for trying to dissect my personality. Problem is your “analysis” makes little sense. You use some weird ‘therapy talk’ mumbo jumbo that is popular right now, but has no relation to how actual psychiatry works.
I knew a woman who was like that
Ah here’s the crux of the issue. You knew a WOMAN. You don’t know men.
He isn’t like my female friend at all. She had to really care for you to try to convince you of her sociopathy, in order to protect you from herself. You’d have to be cared for so much, that it broke the wall separating her conscious from her unconscious. This was the closest she could get to an expression of love – to momentarily break free of those bounds, solely in order to desperately keep that loved one away.
More mumbo jumbo that makes no sense lol
Laxa, I suggest you write less particularly about topics you don’t understand and listen more. This is another reason why I do not think women should work – they develop big egos but don’t actually know anything beyond a small specialized field.
It means that you communicate in a way which is understood as intended.
And what does ‘communicate in a more effective manner’ even mean? That is just word salad
If it is a "natural phenomenon," then why is it not a reality? Or why would it not be the result of people enjoying a good degree of security, freedom and tolerance, at least?
I don’t think he places himself at the top of this order, which is a natural phenomenon.
If it is a “natural phenomenon,” then why is it not a reality
Is it not reality? Is there not a natural social hierarchy, whose complexity reflects the development and refinement of each society?
Why would someone even need to argue that it was a natural phenomenon? Do natural phenomena need justification? Aren’t they merely things you observe?
His argument comes across as an observation.
One can also observe that a breakdown in order and hierarchy reflects a decline in the society. Such an observation may seem like an “argument” in favor of maintaining a hierarchy, I suppose.
justification for why people should submit to his control
Is it really about his or anybody’s control though? In the natural hierarchy individuals’ roles depend on their personal attributes. These roles can be beautiful or honorable, simple or complex, depending on the beauty and honor of the society.
A crude simpleton such as your other interlocutor, “Xi-jingping”, has admitted that he has worked so hard building up his physique so that he can serve as a dildo for hundreds of women. He is probably a tool in all other areas of his life, too. In a healthier and more beautiful society he would be a hardworking honest peasant, or a foot-soldier.
“Daniel Chieh” on the other hand is more intelligent, thoughtful and moral. Whatever he does is much more complex. Most importantly, in a healthy and beautiful society his role involves more obligations and no less work. Such people are not some sort of parasites as modern (leftist) propaganda implies, no more than a neuron is a parasite compared to a cardiac muscle cell.
This reads like the words of a jealous man, a man who wished he had a good physique and was full of strength and beauty, yet lacks it. You sound envious and I am sorry for you.
has worked so hard building up his physique so that he can serve as a dildo for hundreds of women.
More words of envy. What makes you think there isn't love and warm relations with these women? (Rhetorical question)
dildo for hundreds of women
He is probably a tool in all other areas of his life, too. In a healthier and more beautiful society he would be a hardworking honest peasant, or a foot-soldier.It is jealous/envious men that are usually the 'tools'. Sorry to break it to you. I promise you, I have a great career and earn more than most people here in all likelihood. This post confirms what I already suspected - AP is a small man who thinks he is smarter than he is as well as adding envy to that. I would be glad to be proven wrong, but I do not think I am based on what you write. In fact, it seems to me you are simping towards Laxa - for what purpose I cannot fathom.In a healthier and more beautiful society (like say that of the Ancient Greeks), people like AP would be ostracized for their envy.Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anatoly Karlin
I disagree. I find that he veils his political platform behind the vaguest analogies I've ever read, makes a few barely relevant anecdotal observations and avoids giving direct answers to questions, but, this means that if he is only saying what is, rather than what should be, he is saying nothing at all.It strikes me as cowardice and sophism, though likely internal.I'd be very happy to be wrong.
His argument comes across as an observation.
My guess is that he is a young fantasist. It isn't that real individuals, like he describes himself, don't exist, it is that, even if they felt they needed to convince strangers on the internet of their truth, they would communicate in a more effective manner. He's also familiar with one of the ways in which women can be disproportionately cruel and abusive. Given his immaturity, I would guess that his mother has distinct problems with emotional regulation and his home environment was unsafe for his own emotional expression. This isn't that rare, but it is also not nearly as common as his ideological outlook implies.Just an observation and exploration of an interesting phenomena, but the problem with you calling him a "sociopath" before, an accurate description of his persona, is that it is exactly what he is trying to convince you is actually him. You are validating his false identity. He obviously isn't a sociopath in the "I just use people and have no feelings sense", because he would hide it. I knew a woman who was like that and she structured her entire persona around hiding it. It was highly effective at masking her conscious self, even if there was an extremely hurt little girl below even that.What's the true face of a young man who feels he needs to hide behind a sociopathic mask? What life experiences would teach him that he needs to convince everyone that he has no emotional needs of others?He isn't like my female friend at all. She had to really care for you to try to convince you of her sociopathy, in order to protect you from herself. You'd have to be cared for so much, that it broke the wall separating her conscious from her unconscious. This was the closest she could get to an expression of love - to momentarily break free of those bounds, solely in order to desperately keep that loved one away.Replies: @Xi-jinping, @AaronB, @utu, @AP
“Xi-jingping”
Is it not reality? Is there not a natural social hierarchy, whose complexity reflects the development and refinement of each society?
If it is a “natural phenomenon,” then why is it not a reality
His argument comes across as an observation.
Why would someone even need to argue that it was a natural phenomenon? Do natural phenomena need justification? Aren’t they merely things you observe?
Is it really about his or anybody’s control though? In the natural hierarchy individuals’ roles depend on their personal attributes. These roles can be beautiful or honorable, simple or complex, depending on the beauty and honor of the society.
justification for why people should submit to his control
has worked so hard building up his physique so that he can serve as a dildo for hundreds of women.
This reads like the words of a jealous man, a man who wished he had a good physique and was full of strength and beauty, yet lacks it. You sound envious and I am sorry for you.
dildo for hundreds of women
More words of envy.
What makes you think there isn’t love and warm relations with these women? (Rhetorical question)
He is probably a tool in all other areas of his life, too. In a healthier and more beautiful society he would be a hardworking honest peasant, or a foot-soldier.
It is jealous/envious men that are usually the ‘tools’. Sorry to break it to you. I promise you, I have a great career and earn more than most people here in all likelihood.
This post confirms what I already suspected – AP is a small man who thinks he is smarter than he is as well as adding envy to that.
I would be glad to be proven wrong, but I do not think I am based on what you write. In fact, it seems to me you are simping towards Laxa – for what purpose I cannot fathom.
In a healthier and more beautiful society (like say that of the Ancient Greeks), people like AP would be ostracized for their envy.
AP is literally of aristocratic extraction. In a better world, he is a nobleman.Replies: @Xi-jinping, @sher singh
In a healthier and more beautiful society (like say that of the Ancient Greeks), people like AP would be ostracized for their envy.
Greater economic development is usually accompanied by steadily increasing mass media and mass education. And technological development. It's not always easy to figure out which of those factors has contributed to the breakdown of traditional gender roles.
There is no relation between ‘greater economic development’ and breakdown of traditional gender roles.
I do not see why technological development would inevitably lead to change in gender roles. Technology is just tools, but human biology (in which gender roles are rooted) do not change. If anything Technological development makes humans more arrogant, leading them to think they have mastered their biological instincts moreso than previous generations and that biology no longer applies to us. This leads to delusional ideas like feminism or pushing women into the workforce en masse.
Improvements in contraceptive technology are an example of technological development inevitably leading to changes in gender roles.
I do not see why technological development would inevitably lead to change in gender roles.
If it is a "natural phenomenon," then why is it not a reality? Or why would it not be the result of people enjoying a good degree of security, freedom and tolerance, at least?
I don’t think he places himself at the top of this order, which is a natural phenomenon.
I am honored to be in the presence of one who’s confidence in her psychic ability to read the secret intentions of others exceeds her reading comprehension. Continue being brave and courageous, just like everyone on Twitter.
Good night, Laxa.
You’re intimidated by your own emotional needs
LOL. another one of those feminine nonsensical statements. I am fully aware of my emotions, i just don’t see the need to share them with the world like a faggot.
Say you do manage to convince me that you are a heroic, masculine man who knows everything and has no needs, how will that feel?
I don’t need to convince you of anything. Just that you don’t understand me or men as well as you think you do. (Typical feminine solipsism).
It is funny that you quote Nietzsche, because the way you describe yourself is pure slave morality, but you think it is the opposite.
It’s funny because you don’t understand Nietzsche. Can you even explain his main points without resorting to wikipedia or sparknotes or something like that?
If she as a white woman is unfit for marriage, she's serviceable as a concubine; and, only represents the social weakness of white society.
Think of feminism as putting all women in a common state-backed harem.
Of course, this assumes that there is always ownership over women & politics merely the transfer.
Of course, being a white woman you’ll scream this isn’t true as you’re looking for a strong owner||
because game ultimately represents a form of defection against other men
I am not sure what you mean by this? Can you clarify.
women are the glue within and arbiter between tribes.
If anything women are the thing that brings conflict within and amongst tribes. Tribal warfare amongst the Yamamato is primarly driven by a competition for women not any other resources. Wars where started over women (if the legend of the Trojan War is to be believed – it was started over Helen). Even now, it is quite possible to be jumped by guys who think you are trying to take their women.
looking for a strong owner
This is what I have been saying – women attach themselves to whoever they view as strongest within the vicinity/social group. The State is the strongest actor. However, an average male can bypass this position by projecting psychological strength and showing an ability to be stress resistant in adverse situations.
Yes, they will get you killed and to control them you must be prepared to die; they also bring forth life.
Nietzsche wrote:
“The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.”
Some strive for the palace bedroom
game ultimately represents a form of defection
I think a lot of kindhearted people, which I guess includes Bari Weiss, look at incels and see young men in serious pain and confusion.
Along the same lines, I think it was hearing Bari Weiss talking about the growing scale of the Incel phenomena among men in their 20s and 30s that suggested to me that at some point elements of the Red Pill could end up getting into the Anglo mainstream.
His self-conception is very extreme, feels desperate and born of a deep lack of unworthiness.
This is one of those hilarious female quotes similar to “men are just intimidated by a strong independent woman”. No. Why would I as a guy who is 6’4 at 223 lbs be intimidated by a woman who is 100 lbs? That makes no sense. Same applies to this. I see women for what they are and respond accordingly. To not adapt is stupid. I just do not allow emotions to cloud my judgement, as many guys do. One could say I am first and foremost a pragmatic. I cannot change women, once they change – so will I.
You are going by partial ‘feelings’ and trying to project some female conceptions onto the male mind.
Yeah man. Usually the best thing to do if jumped is to run. Its not always possible though. That’s when boxing and wrestling come in. Boxing allows you to keep them at a distance. Grappling for when they’re close.
Women in general hate on guys who speak openly of Game, as it bypasses their ‘mate selection mechanisms’. Doesn’t mean that they cease to be susceptible to it.
If she as a white woman is unfit for marriage, she's serviceable as a concubine; and, only represents the social weakness of white society.
Think of feminism as putting all women in a common state-backed harem.
Of course, this assumes that there is always ownership over women & politics merely the transfer.
Of course, being a white woman you’ll scream this isn’t true as you’re looking for a strong owner||
Stop hating on dude for having game, Donate to Karlin if you want his digits.
His approach is probably better than breaking rules n shit in public to get girls.
I don’t have the emotional depth or patience to do the muh game way though||
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ
Where I currently reside does not allow carrying/owning of firearms.
I see no point in carrying knives as stabbing someone would land me in more trouble than beating the shit out of them. Which is why I used to do boxing and now do Greco-Roman Wrestling (I do not think that BJJ is practical in a street fight as you are more likely to encounter multiple assailants than a single one).
Why do you ask?
How do you want your marriage to be?
I would only do any form of marriage with a virgin. As women who have had extra martial sex are no longer capable of pair bonding.
So far you have asserted that you want to control her economic security.
LOL. Having a loving husband bring and hand over his paycheck to the wife (as was the case in the USSR) is ‘evul male controlling her economic security’…
Most men are incredibly malleable to a womans whims because of the magical thing that women carry between their legs.
abuse
Yes I agree. Women are far more prone to emotionally abuse men and there is little recourse to the authorities as it is hard to prove. Another reason why I do not recommend marriage unless it is towards a virgin.
If women are so easy to manipulate then why have I gotten such a nightmarish view of what it is you want?
Because you are 1) American (or from the West) and brainwashed by feminist propaganda 2) because you are emotionally broken 3) because you are a man hater (likely due to guys you liked either not paying attention to you or breaking up with you).
You are partially right i think. That’s a good point. But, we should ask ‘why is US media more relatable’? That mainly goes back to my first point about US dominating for so long, having longer to develop its soft power and instituting puppet governments everywhere.
Oh… well that is interesting. In that case, the time honored tradition of the internet (that bodybuilding forums and 4chan popularized) applies, she should post tits or gtfo.
US culture is able to appeal to much of the world
US culture appeals for two reasons
1. Because US has been dominant for so long and has had long to develop its soft power
2. Because of a ‘perception’ of US being wealthy and ‘cool’. And as we know perception = reality. For example, one could make a case that South Korea makes cooler movies/music. But watching/listening to it is not mainstream (yet). But this is changing with the growing popularity of BTS.
China hasn’t had long to develop its media and its not viewed as ‘cool’ because of propaganda to the contrary – but if you actually watch Chinese movies and shows – many of them are well made and ‘cool’.
Ultimately – the predominance of US culture is about perceived status – people think that associating with it gives them higher status.
On the contrary I recognize my own emotions and deal with them as they come. However I do not show them to wonen bc women despise emotionality in men. If you had any experience with women, youd know that.
No, you hate your emotionality. It makes you feel scared
Are you autistic, or rather sociopathic?
It depends on whether you were truthful about your claims about your personal life. If you weren’t, then your obvious cluelessness about women suggests autism. You would do well to learn from your interlocutor.
If you were truthful, then sociopathy comes into play.
But Triteleia really manipulated you well. That must burn 🙂
LOL. Whenever someone goes 'you go first' it becomes obvious they won't do it (because they have nothing to present - because if they did they would have poasted without trying to turn it over to the other person).
But Triteleia really manipulated you well. That must burn 🙂
I am not boasting of anything. I am just saying that greater economic development leads to greater economic independence for women.
There is no relation between ‘greater economic development’ and breakdown of traditional gender roles.
One does not preclude the other. It just so happens that with greater economic development you also get more propaganda to get women into the workforce (in capitalism – to increase the labor pool and reduce wages; in communism – to garner maximal public support).
So again, it has everything to do with propaganda.
And as we both know – you don’t get women, so you don’t know their nature and how easily manipulated they can be.
Any politics that stands against this current, dooms itself to ever increasing marginalisation, because not even the most tradded up online teen wants to actually enforce the laws which would be required.
Which is why these politics must not be blatant. And why I said it needs to be in the form of media.
Feminism used to be an entirely marginal position – and women in the 50’s in America would rightfully ask, “Why would I want to go and work and lose the great deal I currently have?”, but then there was a concerted effort of the CIA together with corporate donors to run a propaganda campaign that resulted in the Sexual Revolution of the 60’s.
Greater economic development is usually accompanied by steadily increasing mass media and mass education. And technological development. It's not always easy to figure out which of those factors has contributed to the breakdown of traditional gender roles.
There is no relation between ‘greater economic development’ and breakdown of traditional gender roles.
I poasted a pic to confirm truth of my words.
But Triteleia really manipulated you well. That must burn 🙂
LOL. Whenever someone goes ‘you go first’ it becomes obvious they won’t do it (because they have nothing to present – because if they did they would have poasted without trying to turn it over to the other person).
The reason I did it was two fold
1. To humiliate Triteleia – because by not poasting he merely shows like he talks a big game but has nothing to show for it.
2. To prove what I say is true.
So no. Triteleia is just trying to cope with the fact that he doesn’t get laid. lol
I personally tweeted on their Twitter account that the article is biased. For example it sees possible negative scenarios only for China, but not for the US. For example that economic crisis may happen in China, but not in the US. This is one sided, an economic crisis may happen in the US too, actually they regularly happen. They did not mention the issues with US debt, only the chinese one, or the issues with US birth rate drops, only the chinese ones.
Didnt know Karlin is a Jew. If he is, that explains alot
Jews are less than 0,2% of the population, so Karlin is showing 15 times higher levels of Judaism than a normal sample .
If international guidelines for normal safe levels of Judaism in a person are 2000 ppm (parts per million), Karlin’s blood is measuring contamination rates as high as 30,000 ppm, at which point we might might begin to see the neurotoxic effects with symptoms like an interest in stock market and collecting multiple passports.
In Hungary, the fertility rate has risen from 1.23 to 1.48, so that's something.
Interesting idea. And how has this worked for Hungary thus far?
Money seems to work. Basically it pays couples money to have more children, or extends tax benefits that increase per child born. Basically, instead of trying to push its way, it lowers barriers for people who already want to have a number of children. Indirectly, it might also promote the "breeder" population as well. Such policies have been discussed in East Asia, I believe, but are opposed by women(usually with careers) who basically do not want other women to have more children; disguised partly in talk of their tax money going places they don't benefit from, etc or it encouraging the poor to breed, but there's clearly some sort of status thing going on there. Fortunately, at least for China, it is not a democracy and women have had a declining share of political power. Its always easier to guide a thirsty horse to the through than it is to force a horse to drink.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
Also, the question arises is how do you “encourage” women to have more children?
Im not certain how far moneyhelps in raising fertility. In Russia, maternity capital has not had any significant effect in raising birth rates anongst young women.
In fact, giving money to promote “breeders” especially in Asian societies like China that had families with many kids – doesnt make sense – since it seems logical that only breeders would have outbred everyone in the first place (judging by sheer population size). This propensity for “breeding” has not gone away over the course of 2 or so generations. Evolution does not work that fast. This indicates to me that this is more of a “mental software” than “hardware” issue.
Money promoting “breeders” only works in societies with a relatively small population as there would exist a much larger percent of “non-breeders”. I do not think these exist in populous countries like China.
No, you hate your emotionality. It makes you feel scared.No wonder you feel worthless, you have decided that hating yourself is strength.And no wonder you are seeking my validation, you can't even validate your own feelings.
Women hate emotionality in men. It makes them scared.
If you felt more worthy, you wouldn't be comparing yourself to dirt on the ground, and you wouldn't need to pretend to be unperturbed by small slights.The only person who you've been playing is yourself.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
Women need somebody to ground them and look for this in a man. This happens by her being able to feel that a guy is unperturbed by whatever is happening around them.
No, you hate your emotionality. It makes you feel scared
On the contrary I recognize my own emotions and deal with them as they come. However I do not show them to wonen bc women despise emotionality in men. If you had any experience with women, youd know that.
We’ve already established that you are not qualified to speak of women bc you did not poast bitches.
Its like in a Roman court where veterans will expose the scars on their chest to show they always faced the enemy and never ran. This gave their words more gravity as they proved their word through deed. You did not prove your word through deed whereas I did. Which means that you are not qualified to speak on the matter bc you dont get bitches.
I don't think you know what this means, but you're right, even a lot of what feminism sincerely and openly wants men to do, is encouraging them to be psychologically stronger.
psychological strength is what women want
I've just manipulated you to post an outre photo of a supposed "conquest" so that I, a stranger, can affirm your masculine value. You are too funny!
So again, sleeping with alot of women does nothing to enhance my own social status.
People instinctively push others to develop. They do this in manifold ways. You have taken a thin slice of human interaction and made it the whole. I would strongly advise you to avoid entangling yourself with women who cause you to be constantly defensive. Your intuition is telling you to leave that situation. Listen to it.
They will actively test for it by trying to stur up conflict, drama or seeing how you react under pressure.
I understand the narrative, but it is a simplistic fantasy of biology. If we are biological beings then whatever we do is biological, and most people don't actually act as you describe, therefore what you describe is not biological. Reflect on this for a bit. It is important.
Women and men have different biological imperatives and methods of achieving them.
A fact easily explained without your long diversion, by the story of the Sabine women. When war was more frequent and more local, and humans operated in much smaller groups, sometimes the men of one group would all be killed in a battle and the women would be still be alive. The quasi-rape, prostitution, making lemonade from lemons, that would follow, adequately explains the genetic phenomena which you highlight. Life has always been messy, but, thankfully, we seem easily able to do better.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
In traditional societies (before the social pact of monogamy was made), women where concentrated around a few men in harems. This accounts for why men have 17 female ancestors to 1 male ancestor (measured by variation in mitochondrial DNA for the female line and Y chromosomal variation in the male line).
don’t think you know what this means, but you’re right, even a lot of what feminism sincerely and openly wants men to do, is encouraging them to be psychologically stronger.
For example, while poorly articulated, the campaign against “mansplaining” is encouraging men to recognise their epistemological limits and to be more curious. This is good advice.
LOL. No. Feminst complaining about “mansplaining” is about power not epistemological limits or being more curious *facepalm*
You dont know what “psychological strength” is judging by the drivel you wrote. In this context it means resistance to stress. Women need somebody to ground them and look for this in a man. This happens by her being able to feel that a guy is unperturbed by whatever is happening around them.
I’ve just manipulated you to post an outre photo of a supposed “conquest” so that I, a stranger, can affirm your masculine value. You are too funny!
Haha no. I was perfectly aware you wouldnt poast your own bitches. The reason i did it was to humiliate you not to have some (probably fat) internet stranger to “affirm my value”. Since i knew you wouldnt poast, me poasting affirms that I did not lie. Whereas you not poasting merely indicates you get nothing. This puts whatever you say into doubt.
This is very much the method ancient romans used in court to confirm the truth of their words.
People instinctively push others to develop. They do this in manifold ways. You have taken a thin slice of human interaction and made it the whole. I would strongly advise you to avoid entangling yourself with women who cause you to be constantly defensive. Your intuition is telling you to leave that situation. Listen to it.
If you must stay with them, try opening up about the way you feel hurt by their behaviour and see if they care. If they don’t care, have the courage to leave. Lying to yourself that you’re not actually hurt is just playing yourself, not them.
If you want to improve your “psychological strength”, start by admitting, to yourself, just how much you want my validation and what that means given that I am total stranger. Have the courage to build yourself on foundations of truth, and you will be far more resilient. Lying to me, or other people, is fine, often necessary, but lying to yourself is stupid.
LOL this reads like a cope. Women hate emotionality in men. It makes them scared.
I dont care for your validation, but I did prove a point.
fact easily explained without your long diversion, by the story of the Sabine women. When war was more frequent and more local, and humans operated in much smaller groups, sometimes the men of one group would all be killed in a battle and the women would be still be alive
You described the concept of “War brides” where women are able to rapidly adapt to a new man or the loss of an old one. Which manifests itself in the ability of women to get over men easier than men get over women.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag.com/.amp/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
No, you hate your emotionality. It makes you feel scared.No wonder you feel worthless, you have decided that hating yourself is strength.And no wonder you are seeking my validation, you can't even validate your own feelings.
Women hate emotionality in men. It makes them scared.
If you felt more worthy, you wouldn't be comparing yourself to dirt on the ground, and you wouldn't need to pretend to be unperturbed by small slights.The only person who you've been playing is yourself.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
Women need somebody to ground them and look for this in a man. This happens by her being able to feel that a guy is unperturbed by whatever is happening around them.
Realistically speaking there is “no inherent value of humanity”. A predator will eat you just like it will eat a rabbit. Nature will destroy you in one way or another. If humans had “inherent value” in the eyes of the Universe, we would not be so easily destroyed. We are less insignificant than dust to the Universe because dust makes stars and planets that last for millenia whereas a human is lucky to live a small insignificant speck in the history of the Universe.
Humans like to ascribe themselves value but are ultimately worthless. This “inherent value” is a meme intended to increase social stability but even our human elites do not think that – if they did, theyd make greater effort to take care of their flock. But they do not.
You go first!
If you think im using “my story” to acquire more social status on an anonymous board, why dont we poast the quality of women we get and see who gets the hotter women?
Game states that women are not just about social status lol. If you think that you know nothing of Game.
Women and men have different biological imperatives and methods of achieving them.
Women have a dual mating strategy that can be broadly described as “alpha fucks, beta bucks”. Meaning that they’d rather fuck (and potentially have the kids) of a guy they think is psychologically alpha and have the weaker, provider type pay for it. This explains why women are more prone to cheat then men. If a man can embody both archetypes, that is ideal but very very rare. In youth when theyre beauty (and social status) is maxinized they will seek to date and sleep with the best guys. As they get older and their beauty (and this social status) declines, this becomes harder until they settle down with some poor schmuk who will be happy to provide for them and a kid blisfully unaware of their sordid past.
Men on the other hand want to maximize their ability to sleep with as man women as possible (biologically speaking) while minimizing their investment.
In traditional societies (before the social pact of monogamy was made), women where concentrated around a few men in harems. This accounts for why men have 17 female ancestors to 1 male ancestor (measured by variation in mitochondrial DNA for the female line and Y chromosomal variation in the male line). Eventually a social contract was made that guarenteed one woman for one man (however the powerful still ended up having harems), and this was done to ensure social stability and that men have a reason to contribute to society without going GALT or trying to overthrow it. This social contract broke and we are seeing a return to traditional times – most men arent having sex and most sex is concentrated around top 20% of men in a pareto distrbution. This has been even more exacerbated by online dating and womens enfranchisement . Game evolved as a response to that.
Now you ask what makes a guy “alpha”? Of course social status, looks and money plays a role but ultimately women are willing to overlook that if you can project psychological strength. Looks money and status makes things a great deal easier, but psychological strength is what women want. They will actively test for it by trying to stur up conflict, drama or seeing how you react under pressure. This explains why some guys who “shouldnt” be able to get with hot women, do whereas rich men have to pay women (such as yourself) to get with them.
So again, sleeping with alot of women does nothing to enhance my own social status. Guys dont care beyond trying to get the same thing. Its fun for me.
Poast bitches. It will autodelete in 2 hours
I don't think you know what this means, but you're right, even a lot of what feminism sincerely and openly wants men to do, is encouraging them to be psychologically stronger.
psychological strength is what women want
I've just manipulated you to post an outre photo of a supposed "conquest" so that I, a stranger, can affirm your masculine value. You are too funny!
So again, sleeping with alot of women does nothing to enhance my own social status.
People instinctively push others to develop. They do this in manifold ways. You have taken a thin slice of human interaction and made it the whole. I would strongly advise you to avoid entangling yourself with women who cause you to be constantly defensive. Your intuition is telling you to leave that situation. Listen to it.
They will actively test for it by trying to stur up conflict, drama or seeing how you react under pressure.
I understand the narrative, but it is a simplistic fantasy of biology. If we are biological beings then whatever we do is biological, and most people don't actually act as you describe, therefore what you describe is not biological. Reflect on this for a bit. It is important.
Women and men have different biological imperatives and methods of achieving them.
A fact easily explained without your long diversion, by the story of the Sabine women. When war was more frequent and more local, and humans operated in much smaller groups, sometimes the men of one group would all be killed in a battle and the women would be still be alive. The quasi-rape, prostitution, making lemonade from lemons, that would follow, adequately explains the genetic phenomena which you highlight. Life has always been messy, but, thankfully, we seem easily able to do better.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
In traditional societies (before the social pact of monogamy was made), women where concentrated around a few men in harems. This accounts for why men have 17 female ancestors to 1 male ancestor (measured by variation in mitochondrial DNA for the female line and Y chromosomal variation in the male line).
I understand peoples desire for political independence but when was the last time governments left a popular thing unregulated? Or freely gave people political independence? I predict crypto.will be attacked by governments at every turn in the future
The reason why governments encourage women in the workforce is that they would like more GDP per capita; this was explicitly the reasoning behind Abenomics.
I agree. Once a certain lvele of prosperity is reached (and in especially dire straits like Korea or Japan), the emphasis should shift away from GDP/capita and towards fertility. I wonder if we will see this.
The corporate encouragement of female employment
It seems the entire feminist movement that is seen in the West is derived from corporations trying to brainwash women into entering the workforce to increase the labor pool while decreasing wages.
I don’t think men particularly favor large families either though
Most Men are more romantic (ironically) than women and are essentially open to doing whatever the woman wants. However on social media (especially om the right), it seems that “Trad lifestyles” with large families are being propagandized for men. This is bound to subconciously influence mens preferences.
In general, urban environments don’t since children are costs rather than potential employees.
I dont think people think this far ahead. Rather they see glamorous lifestyles on TV and want to continue having “fun” (usually “fun” is also whatever they see online/on tv)
Its also possible that there’s just some sort of mental effect against crowding.
I dont think such a mechanism exists. Though I may be mistaken.
I personally think that pro-natalism policies should resemble Hungary’s, which seem to encourage women already with children to have more children. That’s particularly useful in East Asia, where many women have one child – but then stop at one. Encouraging increased fertility from those who have more, and thus already have sunk costs into children, is likely an effective trend.
Probably if you create enough mothers like that, they’ll basically form their own political bloc. Housewives can have a surprising amount of free time for politics once the children are older, or if they have older children taking care of younger ones.
Interesting idea. And how has this worked for Hungary thus far?
Also, the question arises is how do you “encourage” women to have more children? The only way I see is to flood them with propaganda. Good propaganda is strong enough to bypass peoples natural aversion/dusgust to gays or transvestites, i’m sure it will work particularly strong on things that are biological imperatives like child raising.
In Hungary, the fertility rate has risen from 1.23 to 1.48, so that's something.
Interesting idea. And how has this worked for Hungary thus far?
Money seems to work. Basically it pays couples money to have more children, or extends tax benefits that increase per child born. Basically, instead of trying to push its way, it lowers barriers for people who already want to have a number of children. Indirectly, it might also promote the "breeder" population as well. Such policies have been discussed in East Asia, I believe, but are opposed by women(usually with careers) who basically do not want other women to have more children; disguised partly in talk of their tax money going places they don't benefit from, etc or it encouraging the poor to breed, but there's clearly some sort of status thing going on there. Fortunately, at least for China, it is not a democracy and women have had a declining share of political power. Its always easier to guide a thirsty horse to the through than it is to force a horse to drink.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
Also, the question arises is how do you “encourage” women to have more children?
Collapse, nationalizations or break-ups are quite possible to me (especially those strongly associated with Federal power e.g. Big Media, Social Media, Big Pharma).
Many of the multinational corporations in the US (especially large ones) will either move overseas or collapse (moving overseas is more likely.
If libertarian ideology is strong in some parts gold and crypto will predominate.
the dollar may stay as the de facto currency, eventually each seceded state will develop its own currency to “legitimize” the rule of their new government.
Also possible that interior "Red" states will intentionally block food sales to "Blue" states for ideological revenge (partisan labels losing relevance notwithstanding)
Also, a “specialization” and alliance of states will form to be able to acquire food (as many of the costal cities are not self sufficient.
crypto
Crypto is a meme that will not last long. Its entirely speculative and has no value. As a result it will eventually crash. Already China has banned Crypto, India will follow suit. More countries will ban crypto (probably all of EU) once they start releasing their own digital currency. Governments do not go long without regulating, unregulated markets. As more places will ban crypto, its initial value will rise as it becomes scarcer and then collapse entirely as there is not enough people “mining” or “using” it. At most bitcoin will remain in use for the dark web/criminal enterprises but I do not imagine it having long widespread use.
That is the only discernable point.
I’ve had sex with more women than most guys will in their lifetime. I’m tall and good looking asian guy who lifts 5x a week....Point is not to brag about my sexploits
You're hoping to use your story above to get more "social status" on this board, so I don't imagine that you'd be difficult to manipulate in exactly the way you think women are. This is interesting. It is also why I said that you would end up wound around some girl's finger, completely oblivious.
Women will go after what they think gives them more social status – society (and men) can use that to their advantage
If you think im using “my story” to acquire more social status on an anonymous board, why dont we poast the quality of women we get and see who gets the hotter women? If you presume to make judgements about them, im sure you arent afraid of such a challenge?
that you are tricking those women into sex, with the implication that you owe them something
Sure women like sex with good looking men. I wasnt always good looking (looks is often a function of how you dress/your physique and less so about face, imo). Still had no problems then.
They’re just giving you that impression so that they get free use of your credit card,
Further proof you dont meet many women – if you need a “credit card” or money to get laid – then you’re a beta! In fact, if you want good relationships with women never pay for them and get them gifts. Ever. And never let them use your credit card. Spend money freely on yourself not on them.
If you need money to get a woman, you’re doing it wrong. I’ve had women pay for expensive hotels while i was a broke student living on a matress with my mom.
Just a guess, but maybe because Triteleia Laxa isn't a lesbian and, therefore, has no female conquests to compare?
why dont we poast the quality of women we get and see who gets the hotter women?
You go first!
If you think im using “my story” to acquire more social status on an anonymous board, why dont we poast the quality of women we get and see who gets the hotter women?
Replace women with people, and it's pretty accurate. The fish absorbs what's in the water, people absorb the information provided: men and women both.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce.
I agree in general – however men seem to be more susceptible to xenophobic/status quo/militiristic propaganda. Women are more susceptible to social propaganda (social media, movies, etc). Anecdotally, men have no opposition to large families, its mostly the women who dont want them bc they seem to think that a career is glamorous and desirable and pleasant (never mind to womens happiness levels being lowest in history) – this view seems to come from the media that actively pushes women into the workforce and shows motherhood as something “oppressive” and “undesirable”. Given womens inherent emotionality, desire for social status and social conformity, and predeliction for following trends – a strong propaganda campaign targeted at adolescent and teen girls showing them how desirable a large family is and how miserable career women are will see a large efflux of women from the workforce.
I agree that federal power will go. Many of the multinational corporations in the US (especially large ones) will either move overseas or collapse (moving overseas is more likely.
I think that although the dollar may stay as the de facto currency, eventually each seceded state will develop its own currency to “legitimize” the rule of their new government. Also, a “specialization” and alliance of states will form to be able to acquire food (as many of the costal cities are not self sufficient.
But this is getting deeply into theory land – i may be wrong about my thesis and US central power is stronger than i thought – but it seems like the “State” system along with the social tensions in the US is a ripe combination for splintering (I know i’d want to be my own boss if i was the governor of a State and the opportunity to secede aros, i’d take it).
Collapse, nationalizations or break-ups are quite possible to me (especially those strongly associated with Federal power e.g. Big Media, Social Media, Big Pharma).
Many of the multinational corporations in the US (especially large ones) will either move overseas or collapse (moving overseas is more likely.
If libertarian ideology is strong in some parts gold and crypto will predominate.
the dollar may stay as the de facto currency, eventually each seceded state will develop its own currency to “legitimize” the rule of their new government.
Also possible that interior "Red" states will intentionally block food sales to "Blue" states for ideological revenge (partisan labels losing relevance notwithstanding)
Also, a “specialization” and alliance of states will form to be able to acquire food (as many of the costal cities are not self sufficient.
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce. The solution for China and Japan to reverse their poor fertility rates is to make it seem that having many children is a very pleasant and socially desirable thing for women. If combined with good social/financial planning, I predict demographic trends to reverse in a generation (with good enough propaganda and strict censorship).Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Daniel Chieh
women who do lunch” which emphasizes how pleasant it is. Women can’t make it into doctors, often because their grades are sabotaged, but that’s basically fine because if they can’t think they can, and then no one else tells them they can, then they’re pretty happy about it. And yes, then there are the exceptional cases I mentioned.
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce.
When you one day meet a woman, you will be wrapped as tightly around her finger as a Chinese finger trap.
When you one day meet a woman, you will be wrapped as tightly around her finger as a Chinese finger trap.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce.
I’ve had sex with more women than most guys will in their lifetime. I’m tall and good looking asian guy who lifts 5x a week.
Point is not to brag about my sexploits – point is to say women are easily manipulated if you are the right guy. You can turn a Jewish girl into a rabid Nazi. You can also brainwash a feminist into becoming a housewife (whether she’ll be a good one is another question). Women will adopt the views (and lifestyle and hobbies) of a guy theyre with (if they like him alot).
Women will go after what they think gives them more social status – society (and men) can use that to their advantage. They are also incredibly emotional
That is the only discernable point.
I’ve had sex with more women than most guys will in their lifetime. I’m tall and good looking asian guy who lifts 5x a week....Point is not to brag about my sexploits
You're hoping to use your story above to get more "social status" on this board, so I don't imagine that you'd be difficult to manipulate in exactly the way you think women are. This is interesting. It is also why I said that you would end up wound around some girl's finger, completely oblivious.
Women will go after what they think gives them more social status – society (and men) can use that to their advantage
Well, no, I think you're underestimating the extremes here. Unless you're extremely successful, then you have even less individuality than usual, since the basic idea is that people have roles to execute, roles that vary based on context, etc.
Nowhere is like that, but Japan is much more like that than most places. In most places you can only taste freedom if you’re extremely rich or homeless.
China is much less oppressive than imagined. Unz commentators would likely be fine, much like the zhihu.com commentators are fine. China engages much more in deletion and mass blocks...kinda like Twitter(lol), than anything else. Its people who try to create rival parties that face worse punishment, but its not like the US isn't already there with the declaration of people as "extremists" and "extremist organizations."Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Xi-Jinping
An interesting Unz specific example is this weird valorising of China as some bastion of independent thought, yet all Unz commenters, if they were Chinese, and their concerns were Chinese too, would be social pariahs, probably in jail, and Ron would have been disappeared.
women who do lunch” which emphasizes how pleasant it is. Women can’t make it into doctors, often because their grades are sabotaged, but that’s basically fine because if they can’t think they can, and then no one else tells them they can, then they’re pretty happy about it. And yes, then there are the exceptional cases I mentioned.
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce. The solution for China and Japan to reverse their poor fertility rates is to make it seem that having many children is a very pleasant and socially desirable thing for women. If combined with good social/financial planning, I predict demographic trends to reverse in a generation (with good enough propaganda and strict censorship).
When you one day meet a woman, you will be wrapped as tightly around her finger as a Chinese finger trap.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce.
Replace women with people, and it's pretty accurate. The fish absorbs what's in the water, people absorb the information provided: men and women both.Replies: @Xi-Jinping
This merely supports my idea that women can be brainwashed into having more children just like they can be brainwashed into the workforce.
Zhihu.com looks even less critical of the Chinese government than the Washington Post is of the Democratic party. Actually much less.
China is much less oppressive than imagined. Unz commentators would likely be fine, much like the zhihu.com commentators are fine. China engages much more in deletion and mass blocks
I still perceive Japan as so much closer to the US, than it is to Africa, India or even Latin America, and obviously the Middle East.
Well, no, I think you’re underestimating the extremes here. Unless you’re extremely successful, then you have even less individuality than usual, since the basic idea is that people have roles to execute, roles that vary based on context, etc.
22% of doctors in Japan are women, and rising fast. This is what it was in the US back in the final year of the Clinton administration. Hardly "impossible" for women. Or even negative at all.Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Xi-Jinping, @Boomthorkell, @Daniel Chieh
Women can’t make it into doctors, often because their grades are sabotaged, but that’s basically fine because if they can’t think they can
You should read Weibo, people constantly complain about stuff and protests are encouraged in China and the government seems to be far more responsive.
Check out the below article for more on the matter:
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/surprise-authoritarian-resilience-china/
I'm not saying that. Politically the country will become more polarised and fractured. Politics may have an effect on economics. The US also has large and growing debts. The US military will be cut, it is already baked in in future budgets. The US dollar in general will be weakening in the long term both due to the debt issue and the decline in the share of the US in the global economy. The US will be a declining country (in relative decline), imo, up to 2100. I also think that China will be a declining country after 2050, so both of them will be declining.
I’m glad to read that the US economy should remain relatively unscathed until the 2050’s.
You are making one crucial assumption that needs to be examined – that the US will remain intact as it is now. The uncentralized nature (ie each State is semi-autonomous) of the USA where each “State” is essentially its own country with a unified currency and protected by a central government, means that if the US economy declines, stops being first,’ its productivity falls, has too many people of a certain ethnicity (say Latinos) concentrated in one place – it can so happen that States begin to remember historical grievances or suddenly “discover” a new identity (like Ukraine or the provinces of the Roman Empire) that is suddenly at odds with the rest of the US and may attempt secession – especially if the power of the Feds weaken, some governors may figure it will be better for them if they where the President of their own country.
This often happens to States/Empires that begin an (even modest) economic decline. This happened to Rome, Britain and USSR. It doesnt usually happen to relatively homogenous states, but the US is not homogenous and will become less so over time. Moreover the semi-autonomous nature of its State system seems like it would lend itself well to splintering. A splintering will ruin any projections of econokic growth.
So do you think its likely the US will remain intact in its current State or splinter based on ethnic, economic or Racial lines?
Various companies and institutions all over the place use real growth rates after removing inflation. Get some future value calculator and you will see that you need 4,75 % average growth rates for the period of 2020 - 2050 for China to reach 1,75 times bigger MER GDP by 2050, which is something that everyone, including the chinese government, admits that it is impossible.Variables: China 70 % of US GDP 2020
Growth rates up to 2050
If there was no positive white hispanic effect i doubt that the IQ of US migrants (second gen) will be just 4 points below that of the US population, as per PISA.
US racial demographics
Why not? The US is already a very diverse country and yet has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world, it is one of the most innovative countries in the world per capita, as well as with higher GDP growth rates than most other western countrues. If there was a significant IQ drop due to immigration, i doubt that this would be the case. It would be seen in GDP growth rates. It would be looking more like South Africa. The US gets some very innovative, high quality migrants, see Karlin's article on it. Yes, it gets lots of third worlders too, but these effects neutralise each other so the overall IQ drop due to immigration is not that large, as PISA shows.How much will per capita GDP drop? It will drop for certain, but looking at what i said above
Do you think it would have a minor effect on GDP per capita?
it does not look that it will be a big drop. At least right now we are not seeing anything like this.Assuming average migrant IQ of 94 it will take a long time IMO before US IQ drops in any meaningful sense. It will be probably 96 by 2100, compared to 98 today. Maybe 10 % lower GDP per capita due to that.
The US is already a very diverse country and yet has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world, it is one of the most innovative countries in the world per capita, as well as with higher GDP growth rates than most other western countrues
Witn Chinese TFR dropping below the quite low of 1,3 of today, - with ongoing urbanisation in China, which will further reduce TFR, it is a possible scenario. But for that to happen, China will also have to reject immigration (which is possible) while the US will also have to prefer Asian immigration (things are going in that direction).Replies: @silviosilver, @china-russia-all-the-way, @Xi-Jinping
US overtaking China again
is one of the most innovative countries in the world per capita, as well as with higher GDP growth rates than most other western countrues.
The only reason the US is “innovative per capita” than most countries is due to immigration. It does a poor job at raising local talent. As the rest of the world improves amd catches up (and Europe declines), I predict fewer people will emigrate from their countries (a reverse brain drain may even occur) and “US innovation” will greatly slow down. We are already seeing this in China, where many large Chinese tech companies are ex-Silicon Valley employees coming back to China to make their fortunes (ex Anker CEO). Currently China is undergoing a reform of its university system, I predict this will raise its Universities to a US standard (at minimum) so there will also be less motivation to go abroad, as the gov opens up more high quality universities throughout China.
The World’s 3 Leading Western Sinologists
All Western China Watchers follow their work religiously.
This is more related to cargo culting of the West and lingering cultural perceptions of the UK being a colonial superpower with mainland China bein an underdeveloped backwater.
HKers figure that moving to UK gives them greater social status than being part of the ‘unwashed mainland’ totally ignoring the fact that Shenzen is almost as rich (and nicer) than HK for example. They have quite a culture shock when they arrive to the UK though as it does not fit what they are used to and their romanticized and outdated expectations of what it is like living in the UK.
I believe it is mostly about percieved status. Just like Russians/Ukrainians wanting to be more ‘European’ or Russian youth being more aligned with the West.
It is impossible to predict, but whites still absolutely dominate all the fundamental breakthroughs anywhere, and Asians, especially China, are, in my opinion highly overrated:


Dude you’re quoting laowhy and serpenteza on china *facepalm*. That instantly discredits anything you say on the matter
Lol, what's this, hasbara with Chinese characteristics?
Dude you’re quoting laowhy and serpenteza on china *facepalm*. That instantly discredits anything you say on the matter
Europeans have higher risk tolerance
Not really. I think this attitude is evident in European vs Asian approaches to life. Euros are more concerned about ‘being safe’ vs Asians. This indicates a lower risk tolerance and extends to business as well.
As an aside, I think Operation Paperclip guys contributed more to American technological might than the rich fat cats.
Innovation is driven more by government military projects than by individuals. This is why the claim that ‘capitalism breeds innovation’ is false.
Lets take a few historical examples – Silicon valley was heavily funded by DARPA and other US government agencies as a way to decentralize and have many parallel research operations going. Those technologies developed for military purposes by DARPA where thereafter pushed into the commercial space and modified to make them more palatable for commercial consumption.
Another example is NASA – the space race forced a rapid leap forward in material science and computing technologies. This material science (for example designing cloth that is resistant to high temperatures) was then used in everything from tent fabric (expensive tents are fire resistant) to phone production.
Another example is the innovation that occurred in the USSR – it was mostly driven by national institutes (due to its position as a “Garrison State”) rather than private enterprise leading to the production of Sputnik, the first space suits or even fully automated buran rocketry or hemodynamic machines for cardiac surgery.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/foreign-war-has-not-made-america-garrison-state-189023
Modern China also sees most of its innovation driven by SOEs rather than private enterprise.
The question we must ask is ‘why’ the educated elites have taken such a position? And also, educated people are not likely to take up arms if Russian tanks were to roll into Odessa. They will either move to Ukraine or change their view to the predominant one and say they have been Russian supporters from the outset.
Maidan was an American op and perhaps they will turn on America if it where to weaken or if the Euro integration never occurred.
Right now, Galician Kiev has a stranglehold on the provinces. This needs to be broken before a separation of Ukraine can occur.
The answer might have something to do with Western soft power aid to Ukraine perhaps being more effective than what Russia has provided, in conjunction with Russia maybe having taken Ukraine for granted.
The question we must ask is ‘why’ the educated elites have taken such a position? And also, educated people are not likely to take up arms if Russian tanks were to roll into Odessa. They will either move to Ukraine or change their view to the predominant one and say they have been Russian supporters from the outset.
Just who exactly are these "Galicians", that according to you have a stranglehold on all Ukrainian (Kyivn) politics? There are no regional parties that have a presence in the parliament, so it appears that you really don't know what you're talking about. :-(
Right now, Galician Kiev has a stranglehold on the provinces. This needs to be broken before a separation of Ukraine can occur.
Should Putin risk allowing an Operation Strom like action taken against the Donbass rebels? Doing so increases the likelihood of a refugee problem for Russia, along with the Russian government disappointing pro-Russian sentiment among a good portion of the Ukrainian population.Should Putin okay the return of Crimea going back to Ukraine (something that a clear majority in Crimea don't support)? Yes, the Kosovo and northern Cyprus situations continue to be valid whataboutism talking points.Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Xi-jinping
"Putin’s own stance now appears to be hardening. His interest in compromise with the West, never all that great in recent years, now appears about as low as the water level at the Hoover Dam. Putin may be at a crossroads. If he acts upon the precepts he enunciates in his essay, it could transform the East-West confrontation into something much nastier and more foreboding."
Should Putin risk allowing an Operation Strom like action taken against the Donbass rebels? Doing so increases the likelihood of a refugee problem for Russia, along with the Russian government disappointing pro-Russian sentiment among a good portion of the Ukrainian population.
I have been convinced since back in 2014 that Putin’s best and only option is to split Ukraine into East Ukraine and West Ukraine (ruled by Galicia and its ‘Ukrainian identity’). I stand by this view to this day. I was an ardent supporter of Putin until he disappointed by not proceeding with a conquest of Kharkov, Chersoneses and Odessa (given that people where ready and willing to revolt at the time). It would have likely triggered NATO to enter West Ukraine, but West Ukraine was a loss anyway and would have triggered sanctions (but Russia got sanctioned anyway).
The national interest says Putin’s position may be ‘hardening’ but I highly doubt he will do anything, if he didn’t do it when the situation was more in his favor. This is disappointing.
Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Mikhail, @Xi-jinping, @kzn
We are definitely not one nation. If we were one nation, then in Moscow there would sooner be gryvnias circulating and atop the parliament building, a yellow and blue flag. Therefore, we're definitely not one nation Everybody has their own pathway.
You do realize that that’s not his ‘opinion’? Rather its him acting for his constituents. Zelensky has been pro-Russian and barely speaks Ukrainian.
His true opinion is the one he gave multiple times when he said Russia and Ukraine are the same nation. And the fact that he acted in Russian film industry for years (including after 2014) also indicates his true position.
He’s simply a cynic and observes the way the political winds in Ukraine fly – since the Rada is controlled by West Ukraine (with its corresponding weird nationalist position) he simply parrots their position. Once that changes, don’t be surprised his ‘opinion evolves’ to be more pro-Russian.
Looks like you never bothered to find out that Zelensky's biggest role was when he played a fictitious Ukrainian president in a television series. He must have believed in the identity of a Ukrainian president and therefore in Ukraine..Replies: @AnonFromTN
And the fact that he acted in Russian film industry for years (including after 2014) also indicates his true position.
The sad thing is, the Soviets had a working prototype of the internet working before the Americans. But US disinformation campaign convinced them it wasnt worth pursuing further. Otherwise the USSR GOSPLAN would have transitioned to a computerized system in the 60s.
Well, as I wrote above: с волками жить - по волчьи выть. But I didn't write anything about you being desperate. It's good to know that you have higher ambitions than being one of Simonyan minions. IMHO working on RT is similar to working on Radio Yerevan / Армянское радио (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Yerevan_jokes) .
it’s funny that you seem to think I have some kind of agenda desperately trying to curry favor with the Kremlins for the chance to write at their world-leading journalistic establishments which set global opinion. (/s)
It’s time for him to bring in someone younger and more energetic.
Thats what they said in the USSR about Gorbachev, who then proceeded to dismantle/destroy the country.
The whole process itself was completely skewed against Uncle Zu, just like it was skewed against Trump last year (although in US there was a massive electronic voting fraud). The total support by oligarchs, outspoken threatening with civil war if Uncle Zu wins, 24/7 MSM чернуха, unlimited spending (external debt increased by 4 billion US $ and internal debt by 16 billion IIRC although I am citing from memory and am perhaps mistaken) and most importantly the alignment of General Lebed’ with Bor’ka Alkash ensured that Yeltsin came on top at the end.
The whole process was an OP that Americans pulled against Russians, the same way they’ve been doing it throughout all of Europe since the 1940’s. They didn’t always stuff ballot boxes – but by the 1990’s, the USA had perfected the art of electoral manipulation. It all started in the 1940’s, when the USA manipulated the Italian electorate to not elect the popular Communist party at the time.
“We had bags of money that we delivered to selected politicians, to defray their political expenses, their campaign expenses, for posters, for pamphlets,” according to CIA operative F. Mark Wyatt.[4] In order to influence the election, the U.S. agencies undertook a campaign of writing ten million letters, made numerous short-wave radio broadcasts and funded the publishing of books and articles, all of which warned the Italians of what was believed to be the consequences of a communist victory. Time magazine backed the campaign, featuring the Christian Democracy leader and Prime Minister Alcide De Gasperi on its cover and in its lead story on 19 April 1948.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Italy
If you read the Clinton archives that I posted, you’d see the Americans doing exactly the same thing for Yeltsin.
Which is exactly the point I’m making – Karlin is fixated on the polls, but just because the polls indicate that they weren’t stuffed doesn’t mean that the elections weren’t manipulated in other ways.
Basically, supporting Yeltsin, is supporting an American puppet and the supporting of oligarchs and the destruction of Russia as a sovereign nation
My claim is much narrower – that the 14% point victory of Yeltsin in the second round cannot be plausibly attributed to fraud
My claim is that without American help, Yeltsin would never have won the presidency. Frauding or not, it is an undeniable fact that Clinton played a decisive role in Yeltsin winning the Presidency.
though nor did the journalists themselves want to go back to working for Pravda and Izvestia).
The journalists didn’t care who to work for (they never do) – they care more about who pays them. This time it happened to be the oligarchs + americans
(and not just because of the pre-elections polls
If you are all about facts, you would have noticed the correlation between the polls turning to Yeltsin’s favor in May, soon after Yeltsin asked Clinton for help.
Communist whine and cope about the sanctity of the electoral process
Its not Communist “whine and cope about the electoral process” (elections are fake and gay in general), its pointing out that widespread foreign interference in the elections is what helped a favored candidate win.
The point i’m making is that the Americans didn’t need to stuff the ballot boxes (though an argument can be made that was the case as well) or fraud the election process itself – they simply had to manipulate the elections in favor of their preferred candidate. This is something the Americans have been doing since the 1940s and they started doing to try to prevent Italy from going Communist (which it almost did)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Italy
So basically we can say that the US pulled an OP as it did in almost all of Europe to prevent popular Communist parties getting elected.
If you are “all about facts”, you would not have ignored these historical facts. Rather you present “statistics” but ignore the context of them – which prevents it from being factual and becomes propaganda.
They are skewed and unfair, although technically legitimate. But Yeltsin's and Biden's elections were at a completely superior level of manipulation.
Are French elections fraudulent and illegitimate in your world?
It seems that Karlin doesn’t read anything that doesn’t support his narrative or preconceived idea of how things should be, hence he has a pretty ‘mainstream’ view of things as a ‘reactionary dissident’. I’ve seen some of his reddit exchanges that when people post something turning what he wrote on his head – he’ll respond in short statements then entirely disappear.
I suspect that he gets paid to post a certain narrative, and as the saying goes “a man who gets his livelihood from believing something is not inclined to change his opinion”. I may be wrong though and I hope I am.
I mean, I literally cited polls showing a consistent 10-15% advantage to Yeltsin over Zyuganov in the month before the second round of the 1996 elections.
... and that polls were pretty close
Citing another conspiracy theory in support of a conspiracy theory doesn't quite cut it IMO.
If you trust these polls I have a couple of bridges to sell you in Piter, but then you also believe that Biden won fair and square, so I can also sell you a couple of bridges in NY.
The polls demonstrate that Zyuganov was consistently winning until May on polling during the runoffs. Suddenly, May hits and Yeltsin starts winning? Suspicious. If you actually bothered to read the Clinton archives I posted, May was when Yeltsin started getting help from Clinton and then we suddenly saw a heavy turnaround in Yeltsin’s favor. Is it a coincidence or maybe its not….hmmm
This heavily implies that IMF investment/American voting did play a significant role in skewing the results of the votes to Yeltsin’s favor. Thanks for proving my point.
You know how much Yeltsin approval polled in early 1996 ? A freaking 7 %…
And how much his political party got in the Duma elections ? A huuuuge 10 %, despite being the party of the acting president…
If you believe that Russian people were so freaking dumb that they completely changed their mind about Bor’ka Alkash in a half year period, just because Chubais hired a half dozen American political spin doctors, then you are a complete Russophobe…
Massive manipulation, total oligarchic support, full MSM backing, an outspoken menace of a future civil war and outright fraud were required to bring this alcoholic zombie back to power.
The media aspect of the whole affair was paramount:
http://www.yeltsinmedia.com/articles/1996-elections-1/
Even Коммерсантъ admits that Yeltsin’s victory was dubious at best:
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3029908
But now I understand better how you could write that Biden won fair and square. If you accept Yeltsin’s 1996 victory as legitimate, then anything goes.
Even Yeltsin says he wouldn’t have won without Lebed’s votes being added to his:
https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/items/show/57569
(Page 40)
That’s also a comment that was made by someone in the blog you posted.
Just admit it, you’re wrong.
Statements of fact (that Yeltsin won in 1996, and would have won in the absence of electoral fraud) are not endorsements.
Now get lost, your idiotic gnat.
Its not fact when even Clinton admits Yeltsin was in the single digits in polls though.And your argument is literally based on the opinion of one guy, who unironically basis his entire argument on (likely) fraudulent statistics. And you present that as fact *facepalm* vs the actual fucking Russian president (Medvedev) saying that Zyuganov won the election.Medvedev > random Karlin approved blogger on the matter. Like go read what I posted. The US had to run a fradulent campaign for Yeltsin because he would have lost otherwise. Why else would Yeltsin have to ask the US for help then? Makes no sense.So nice try. Do better research next time. Like how stupid do you have to be to take the word of some blogger over that of an ex-Russian president *faceplam*. I think you're taking you're "dissdent" rhetoric a bit too far here.Either find better sources (and I'll happily retract my statements) or get over the fact that you're wrong.
Statements of fact
Statements of fact
Its not fact when even Clinton admits Yeltsin was in the single digits in polls though.
And your argument is literally based on the opinion of one guy, who unironically basis his entire argument on (likely) fraudulent statistics. And you present that as fact *facepalm* vs the actual fucking Russian president (Medvedev) saying that Zyuganov won the election.
Medvedev > random Karlin approved blogger on the matter.
Like go read what I posted. The US had to run a fradulent campaign for Yeltsin because he would have lost otherwise. Why else would Yeltsin have to ask the US for help then? Makes no sense.
So nice try. Do better research next time.
Like how stupid do you have to be to take the word of some blogger over that of an ex-Russian president *faceplam*. I think you’re taking you’re “dissdent” rhetoric a bit too far here.
Either find better sources (and I’ll happily retract my statements) or get over the fact that you’re wrong.
Yes, I prefer to operate in the world of facts and statistics, not a make-belief world of whatever ideology.
The gap between Yeltsin and Zyuganov was 14%. You would be hard pressed to close such a gap even with the degree of electoral fraud seen in 2010s Russia, let alone back then, when it was still delimited to some of the ethnic minority republics.
If thats so, then why do you ignore the fact that Medvedev even said that Zuganov won back then:
Yes, I prefer to operate in the world of facts and statistics
Or that Clinton admitted to helping Yeltsin win the election:https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/26/russian-election-interference-meddling/Either your 'statistics' are wrong or you are trying to peddle a particular narrative. Your entire argument is based on a blog post written by some random guy that unironically quotes official statistics without actually referencing them (as if they can be believed) And this is me using 'official' US sources, that people here seem to like. The US has no reason to peddle an 'anti-Yeltsin' narrative, so you can't just blame it on the 'delusions of a commie' or 'sovok sources' (when facts go against your narrative) or whatever.
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2107565,00.html" Medvedev reportedly offered another take on the official story. According to four people who were in the room, Medvedev stated, like a bolt from the blue, that Russia's first President did not actually win re-election in 1996 for his second term. The second presidential vote in Russia's history, in other words, was rigged."
In fact if you’re a “Russian nationalist” as you claim, you’d support Zyuganov over Yeltsin. Here’s a direct quote from Yeltsin to Clinton (from Clinton archives):
https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/items/show/57569
If anything, Yeltsin was anti-Russian whilst the CPRF supported the exact policies you claim to support (taking back Crimea, claiming Alaska, putting Russia as the dominant power of Eurasia by turning the surrounding territories into a part of its Empire, being pro-Orthodoxy, supporting small business from being gobbled up by large business tycoons, etc)
Even logically speaking your argument regarding support for Yeltsin makes no sense, people did vote to preserve the Union in 1991 referendum after all. Why then would they support Yeltsin who broke it?
Yes, I prefer to operate in the world of facts and statistics
If thats so, then why do you ignore the fact that Medvedev even said that Zuganov won back then:
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2107565,00.html
” Medvedev reportedly offered another take on the official story. According to four people who were in the room, Medvedev stated, like a bolt from the blue, that Russia’s first President did not actually win re-election in 1996 for his second term. The second presidential vote in Russia’s history, in other words, was rigged.”
Or that Clinton admitted to helping Yeltsin win the election:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/26/russian-election-interference-meddling/
Either your ‘statistics’ are wrong or you are trying to peddle a particular narrative. Your entire argument is based on a blog post written by some random guy that unironically quotes official statistics without actually referencing them (as if they can be believed)
And this is me using ‘official’ US sources, that people here seem to like. The US has no reason to peddle an ‘anti-Yeltsin’ narrative, so you can’t just blame it on the ‘delusions of a commie’ or ‘sovok sources’ (when facts go against your narrative) or whatever.
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It's a useful myth to be wheeled out against the West on occasion. But it's factually wrong. https://kireev.livejournal.com/660975.htmlReplies: @Bashibuzuk, @Xi-jinping
Zuganov won the popular vote but the election was rigged and stolen from him.
The US admitted to falsifying the elections in favor of Yeltsin tho….
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/07/the-us-has-a-long-history-of-election-meddling/565538/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Russian_presidential_election#Violations_of_campaign_laws
Was the 1996 Russian Election actually fraudulent and how likely is it that the IMF and the U.S. had a role in helping Yeltsin defeat the Communist Party candidate?
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Is Pryannikov some sort of Russian SJW? Or worse yet, some kind of holdover from the commie past?Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Xi-jinping
Но на низовой уровень постоянно транслируется «Денег нет!», «Русским денег не надо!» и т.п. айнрэнд. СМС-ками собирают копейки на больных детей на фоне такого безумно огромного денежного навеса у правящего класса.
Or worse yet, some kind of holdover from the commie past?
As I have demonstrated on this blog numerous times – Russia’s commie past is far more superior than its current non-commie present. So I really don’t see what you’re getting at.
In a commie Russia SJWs would be an impossibility and family values were far more promoted (family values = union between one man and one woman) and one could trust that the censors would get rid of any material that wasn’t good for people (eg Black Flag was a show ostensibly about pirates but they shoehorned an entire gay subplot to it – this would have been eliminated by commie Censors).
Also, you’re a west Ukrainian living in the US so its not surprising you’d say that.
Just a thought: China and Russia see wokeness as a cancer that is terminal for the US. Therefore, they see their interest in not trying to counteract it on the American soil (basically, when you see you see your enemy committing suicide, do not interfere). They don’t see it as a geopolitical threat to them for the simple reason that their countries are relatively unaffected by this malaise.Replies: @songbird, @Xi-jinping
but I don’t think they perceive wokeness as the geopolitical cancer and powerful strategic threat
Your assumption is that the RF has a coherent geopolitical policy. I’d agree with you if it was more authoritarian. But with Duma members squirrelling money away to the West and buying up beach properties in Miami, its hard to imagine they would oppose anything US given that it would hurt them first and foremost.
This is strongely echoing the situation we found at the turn of the 19th century in Tsarist Russia when most of the Tsarist Duma was paid for by foreign powers and was no longer supporting Russian interests.
Everyone knows that in criminatity and violence Tuvans surpass DICh – which is why claims of Asians being oppressed or seen as ‘unmasculine’ in the West is surprising to me. The Asian men I know could probably tear the head off of a chechen.
And your assertion that it was ‘sovok culture’ that ruined Russian moral core causing them to be cucked by DICh and others is false – Soviet military culture was about creating toughness (as it was in sport – which is why when the old Soviet era coaches retired, Russian sport fell into the shitter). I’d argue that it was Tsarist era romantic poetry and writing and later post-Soviet capitalist corruption that led to this state of affairs. While Soviet trained, tough Chechen/Ingush veterans were concerned about fighting, Russian commanders where more interested in making money and thus put discipline/training of a new corps to the wayside in favor of $$$.
Which is part of the reason why I am against Russian Fed. Just demonstrates further incompetence of capitalist gov.
And yet you married a non-slav women….
The problem is twofold 1) slav women consider foreign men superior to their own (and women go for social status) 2) insufficient beatings from men. If public beatings where reintroduced – alot of feminism, fertility issues, whoredom, etc would be solved.
If you add in the declining economic growth of most large economies in the world today,
What economies are those? North American and European certainly. Definitely not Asian ones. Vietnam is going to be the next South Korea in terms of growth, China grew a whopping 8% this year. Neither Japan nor South Korea are doing terribly. Compared to even Vietnam, Ukraine is doing terribly lol
Many people are saying a lot of nonsenses about the desintegration of the US
The disintegration of the US is built into its political system – if Federal power weakens, as does the strength of the USD and consequently the Army – if I was the governor of a US State why would I not try to become the sole ruler of my little fiefdom (a State) rather than being beholden to a central government? This is exactly why the USSR collapsed – a cost/benefit analysis followed the old maxim of Julius Ceasar “It is better to be an emperor in a village than second place in an Empire”. US states are in many ways semi-autonomous already, so the logical progression would be the complete seperation of US states from the Fed – with corresponding nationalist propaganda. Suddenly various States will discover they have significant differences with their neighbors that will cause them to seperate. Kind of like Soviet republics suddenly remembered their ‘identity’ seperate from the Russian one, when Soviet central power weakened.
One wonders what reasonably large economy has done well in the last 7 years?
China – its maintained an economic growth rate of 6-8% per year. Also had an 8% growth rate last year.
But its not gay and democratic – so that helps grow its economy.
Third-worldist drivel. Slavery was a drag on the economy although it made a minority rich. American South was much weaker than the North and Latin-American countries were held back by being based around agricultural plantations. Many of the richest European countries (Scandinavia) never had colonies, while some of the largest powers (Spain and Portugal) stagnated despite plundering the world the earliest. The most threatening industrial behemoth, Germany, never had a meaningful colonial empire to speak of. You do remember that Stalin could industrialize a backwater in 20 years, without any colonies to speak of? Of course he used forced labor for the extremely short timespan, but Europe had the main necessities (wood, iron, coal) to do a similar thing in 100 years.
Western Europe isn’t special. Why do you think that European Industrialization started in the 1780’s/90’s and not before? It coincided with European colonialism and stealing the knowledge and money of more advanced cultures (Indochina), and using the manpower of slaves from Africa. It has nothing to do with “European exceptionalism”.
Slavery was a drag on the economy although it made a minority rich. American South was much weaker than the North
Slavery was what allowed the Northern industrialists to build a large part of their economic capabilities as inter-American trade developed. The South fell behind as their economy did not evolve and remained an economy of ‘raw resources’ (ie cotton and human flesh).
Many of the richest European countries (Scandinavia) never had colonies,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_colonialism
Scandinavian countries had extensive colonies, they were unlucky or incompetent or both and unable to hold onto them.
(Spain and Portugal) stagnated despite plundering the world the earliest
I never said that colonialism did not lead to eventual stagnation or collapse. I said that colonialism gave the impetus for Europe to become dominant.
Spain and Portugal were ahead of all of Europe until the other European countries obtained their own colonial ventures. The Spanish and Portugese were unable to translate their extensive colonies into industrial might due to the (ironic) misfortune of plundering territories rich in Gold and cotton. This made them rich (kind of like oil rich countries of current times). However, the portugese were able to maintain some colonies for a very long time due partly to the less brutal form of colonial rule they employed.
Germany, never had a meaningful colonial empire to speak of.
Here is a list of German colonies – Germany had extensive colonies in Africa and some in China too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_German_colonies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_colonial_empire
You do remember that Stalin could industrialize a backwater in 20 years, without any colonies to speak of?
Stalin had Russia/the USSR which is also a colony. The difference with other European powers was that Russia had landlocked colonies connected to its mainland. Rapid industrialization would not have been possible without the dearth of resources Russia had available to it (due to its colonial ventures in Siberia and the Far East).
Did we steal the technology for electricity, telegraphs, steam engines, cotton mills, and later on the internet and the atomic bomb?
All of this technology is based on the technology stolen from other peoples during European period of colonialism. Which accounts for why Europe was a backwater suffering from widespread religious persecution until the 16th/17th century.
I am Russian, my wife is a Western European
You can’t call yourself a russian patriot unless your wife is from a country that is friends with Russia. You have literally fraternized with the enemy – as Western Europe is Russia’s enemy.
What a load of bollocks. AK proves again that he’s either a disinformation agent or just an idiot. Either way, I have no idea why he considers himself some kind of “dissident voice”, as he just repeats what the system says. A legend in his own mind, as Clint would say.
I’m waiting for hm to announce that he has become a transgender (notHing more natural for a transhumanist, after all).
Only one of the three pagodas is 67 meters tall (69, per wiki), the other two are 42 meters tall.
The Hagia sophia is 56 meters tall vs the 67 meters of the three pagodas
Yes. Good point regarding the heights. However keep in mind those pagodas were built in the 9th century. Doesnt change the fact that one of the pagodas will not fit in the dome of the hagia. Also, it is quite difficult to build an earthquake proof building, especially okes that are that old. Ancient engineers had big problems with earthquake stability. Which is why (if i recall correctly) both the Statue of Rhodes and the Lighthouse of Alexandria were lost to Earthquakes.
Regarding complexity – theres a reason why i mentioned the Forbidden City – in terms of complexity it was greater than the Hagia Sophia. The Chinese were excellent architects and engineers that could have also constructed domes, had they wished but that was not their style.