RSSRussia is not a natural ally of (Northern) Europe. Russia has been attacked multiple times throughout history by “enlightened” Europe. Why would Russia want to “earn” it’s “status”? What status? Russia doesn’t need to “earn” anything, especially from Europe.
Russia is indeed at war against the neo-liberal zionist Anglo-American empire. I think if NATO/EU/US really wants to work together with Russia, they should earn Russia’s trust and stop threatening by constantly expanding to Russia’s doorstep.
I think, perhaps, Putin cannot get through his head that the USSR is gone
You think wrong.
Russia has fertility, productivity, and infrastructure challenges that are far more significant than any “foreign policy” concerns.
I think Europe has lots of internal challenges, like influx of migrants which form communities and no-go zones, the breakup of the EU (Britain and perhaps in the future Poland and more), collapse of the neo-liberal system, lots of discontent among the European population because of the policies of European governments. And yet the EU and NATO still try to dictate to others what is right and wrong, and totally ignoring what is going on domestically. That is insane!
Russia possesses immense natural resources, intelligent, noble people, and needs mostly
Yes. And if you want to earn respect from the Russian people, you need to change your behavior.
But it's wrong to just blame 1917 and 1991. Why did they happen in the first place? Because Russians lack spirit. Sure, they had the Russian Soul thing, but modernity is about spirit, the spark. The daring and power to take charge of things.
Russia almost destroyed herself twice in just the past century: in 1917 and 1991. Each time, the price paid by the Russian people was absolutely horrendous and the Russian nation simply cannot afford another major internal conflict.
I read your demagoguery and had to laugh a little.. I will assume that you are either a European or an American. Most Europeans and Americans did not realize before, what was about to happen to them, and now look what’s happening in Europe and USA.. Europe is not even Europe anymore. Was that a “spark” of the European peoples? Was the result of a vision or lack thereof I wonder… So much for the great “spirit” of European peoples..
Ideally, a people should notice what is wrong and what must be done BEFORE the crises strike
Sounds like you’re desperate. And really strange hearing this from a European or American. Yes, Europeans and Americans didn’t see the crisis coming.
There is nothing “Stalinist” about recognizing that the US is a global empire that has 600 military bases around the world to intimidate other countries. The term “Anglo” refers to the fact that US is an English speaking empire, often supported by its vassals like the UK, along with other English speaking (Anglo) countries that make up the “5-Eyes” alliance.
The “Zionist” part refers to the fact that a very big part of US foreign policy is made for the interests of Israel, by Jewish dual-citizens inside the US government. AIPAC is a de-facto department of the US government that (no wonder they are not even registered as a foreign agent).
And need I remind you that the ones who came to Israel and started to steal Palestinian land, are those same bolshevik Jews from a few decades earlier, who were going around and killing Russians, destroying Orthodox Churches etc during the Russian civil war..? Also, US spies on the officials of other countries, listens to their phone conversations – this includes both adversaries and supposed ALLIES (see Merkel), very typical Stalinist paranoia. The US kidnaps foreign nationals around the world, in a very Stalinist manor. And I don’t even want to mention the fact that US has become a police state..
So, in fact, it can be argued, that the US is a Judeo-Stalinist empire!
There's truth in that but most of those talking about an "Anglo Empire" or "Anglo-Zionist" empire are coming from a certain outdated worldview. As you can see, some really do think Stalin was spiffy and that America was "cowed" before his might. That myth needs to go away.My point is that if the American people, or the American leaders back a few generations, had wished to have an explicit worldwide empire, they could have had it.Today, others are using the machinery of the American state to push ends that aren't in America's interests. Sometimes they are pro-Israel, sometimes they are SJWs from the Ivy League who've inherited a power they never could have built.
There is nothing “Stalinist” about recognizing that the US is a global empire ...
There’s lots of historical illiteracy in your comment. For instance, the Ukraine has no claim on anything, because the Ukraine did not even exist back in those days.
Yuri Dolgorukiy was indeed the founder of Moscow, but you have to realize that he, and other princes (kniaz’) like him, were RUSSIAN (russkiy), not Ukrainian. It was called Kievan RUS’ not Kievan UKR.
Kievan Rus’ was just one of several Russian principalities. There were for example also Novgorodian Rus’, Pskovian Rus’, Moscovian Rus’, Vladimir Rus’ etc. Those were Russian principalities and not Ukrainian. I understand that Ukrainians have a ‘young-country-complex’, meaning they miss those things almost every other country has: a long history, identity, heroes and villains, victories and tragedies. That’s why the constant need to claim (parts of) Russian history as your own, like you’re trying to do with the city of Kiev for example, claiming that it has nothing to do with Russia historically.. even though Oleg specifically called it the Mother of Russian Cities, after he captured it in 882, as per the Tale of Bygone Years.
Or this new attempt to change the spelling of Kiev into Kyiv. All old historical documents and maps refer to it as Kiev/Kiew/Kieff. You can look in old encyclopedias for example the Meyers Konversations-Lexikon, German encyclopedia 1909 edition. Or a GREAT Russian encyclopedia series The History of Russia, published between 1851 and 1880 I believe, by Sergei Soloviev. There is no mention of Ukraine in there anywhere. In the context of Old Rus’, the principalities are called simple Rus’, or Rus(s)ian land.
So if anyone is going to annex something, it should be Russia by gaining back its historical lands in eastern and central (Kiev) Ukraine. However, that is unlikely to happen! And I have no problem with Ukraine being a country. But I do have a problem with ukrainization of historical Russian land, which has been going on since the Soviet times! The bolsheviks started to open up various Ukrainian language schools and promote Ukrainian language (mova) to areas where people never spoke Ukrainian.
And by the way: West Ukraine (Galicia) is NOT historical Russian land, because West Ukraine is historically Polish, Hungarian, Romanian. West Ukrainians’ historical city is not Kiev, but Lemberg (today Lviv).
As for the your China and Siberia, that is just laughable!
About Köningsberg, Kuril Islands and Karelia. Those are more recent, but indeed are not historic Russian lands. However their political future is not up for debate, especially now that we have seen what happened to the famous (or infamous) “NATO will not expand one inch east, if East and West Germany reunites”… although some kind of “deal of the century” could be made, if US agrees to remove ALL of its bases from Germany and signs a document where it says that US will not interfere in the business/economic affairs between Russia and Germany… hmmm?
Christopher Jon Bjerkness is a disinfo agent. His anti-Russian talking points are the typical lie propaganda slogans one can hear in the western MSM. It’s part of an effort to ‘redirect’ the attention and anger of the nationalist-minded people in the west against Russia.
I seem to remember some time ago when FBI agents were posting on 8chan and spreading anti-Russian conspiracy theories.
As for free speech in Russia: most of what you hear in the west about Russian free speech is incorrect. There are many people who criticize Putin, in media and also common people online, bloggers etc. Yes, Russia is not the west (thank God) and always was more authoritarian compared to the west. That is normal, it’s not good or bad. Every region of the world has its own societal and political culture. So to apply your own standards onto others, is not realistic. What works in one region of the world, will not necessarily work in others. That’s why “nation building” is an insane western neo-con idea, and it will never work!
The above is another dead giveaway that you have ZERO idea what you are talking about.
So they often stated myths about the USSR. Only after the collapse of the USSR, did the Soviet records became public, and are now offering a counter narrative to the “official” German-influenced narrative
Not very encouraging for Russian historians to be independent now, is it?Replies: @Wavelength
On 5 May 2014, Russia's President Vladimir Putin signed a law that introduced criminal liability for 'infringements on historical memory with regard to the events of the Second World War'. That law added the following article to the Penal Code of the Russian Federation:
Article 354.1 Rehabilitation of Nazism
The denial of facts established by the Judgment of the International Military Tribunal for the trial and punishment of major war criminals of European countries of the Axis, the approval of crimes established by the above-mentioned Judgment, as well as dissemination of knowingly false information on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War, committed publicly, are punishable by a fine of up to three hundred thousand roubles... or by deprivation of liberty for up to 3 years."
The law also increases the punishment to up to 5 years of imprisonment if 'the same deeds[have been] committed with the use of one's official position or through the mass media, as well as with an artificial fabrication of prosecution evidence'.
This law is commonly known as the Yarovaya Act, since Irina Yarovaya, a State Duma deputy from 'United Russia', the party in power, ...
Just calling it “bullshit” because you don’t like what you’re hearing doesn’t make it so. The vast majority of the German-influenced version of the war comes from Franz Halder specifically, and his “mad man Hitler!” theory, along with these: “it was the winter!”, “there were too many of them we were simply outnumbered!”. All of these claims have been debunked.
It was necessary for the Germans to portray themselves as the good guys to the western allies to sell themselves, and to portray the Soviets as the epitome of evil to make the Germans seem less guilty, often by exaggerating or just lying and making up crimes the Soviets have committed. To do that, they tried to distance themselves from Hitler, make it seem as if everything is solely his fault (“mad man Hitler!”), that the supposedly “professional” German army, who were still using horses for their transport by the way, didn’t commit any crimes in eastern Europe, or that all the German strategic failures are simply the result of mad man Hitler, “being outnumbered!” and “snow!”, and not the incompetence of the German generals.
But you are right to say that for most of the time, Hollywood was portraying the war not positive to the Germans.. why would they? But they have, and still are portraying the war from an AMERICAN/WESTERN point of view! They are under the impression that WW2 was this one big anti-Semitic operation, stopped only by the Americans and the Brits.. which is absurd. They hardly ever mention the role USSR played, which had the biggest role in stopping the Nazis, or what was happening in eastern Europe, Lebensraum, attempted eradication and enslavement of the Slavic peoples, etc.
While the notes and memoirs of captured Germans, like Halder, served as a source for many history books, documentary shows, etc. because the Germans got the story out first. And for a long time it couldn’t be challenged/debunked. So my original argument that the USSR couldn’t get the word out, and the official narrative remained heavily influenced by the Germans (combined with Hollywood Western narrative), still stands.
The Russian archives have been open since the 90s, if one wants to know the truth, one will study both sides of the narrative, and decide for himself.
And as for your:
closed again by the Russian government
statement.. it’s untrue:
https://www.rt.com/news/478610-russia-fight-history-distortion-putin/
Now, right after the end of the war, with the beginning of the Cold War, Stalin would have had objective reasons not to disclose how badly the Red Army had been bled. But now, it seems it is basically just HUBRIS.
...Russia’s military history must be liberated from the false dogmas and stratification resulting from the ideological tenets of the Central Committee of the CPSU. ...
For this, it is necessary to create the appropriate conditions: first and foremost, to open the remaining closed archive collections, particularly the General Staff collection; to digitize all archive materials for better storage and ease of access for all; and to actively continue to publish collections of archive documents.
Unfortunately, those participating in the creation and reanimation of myths about the Great Patriotic War are hindering in any way possible the publication of the most important documents about the war, including those that concern casualties.
The video you referenced is not Russian, but Ukrainian. They speak Ukrainian there, and it is written in Ukrainian. But I guess, you not being able to speak Russian, don’t know the difference huh.
“Vigilante_Intelligence” aka Johnny Gat (Ziony Rat) is an anti-Russia propaganda channel, pretending to be “based anti-zionist”, while spreading his J MSM approved anti-Russia drivel. A lot of people distrust the MSM today, so they’re trying a new tactic: pretend to be alternative media, and try to sway people into being anti-Russian.
The “preemptive strike” idea has been debunked by historians who have studied Soviet and German military operations right before and during the war. This video, made by youtuber TIK, delves into this “Icebreaker” book and analyzes the claims with official historical records, troop numbers etc.

Also, one must take into consideration that for a long time, during the cold war, the Soviet records were not accessible to the public, while the German records were. A lot of captured German officers, soldiers etc, wanted to sell themselves to the western allies, in the coming cold war with the USSR. So they often stated myths about the USSR. Only after the collapse of the USSR, did the Soviet records became public, and are now offering a counter narrative to the “official” German-influenced narrative.
The above is another dead giveaway that you have ZERO idea what you are talking about.
So they often stated myths about the USSR. Only after the collapse of the USSR, did the Soviet records became public, and are now offering a counter narrative to the “official” German-influenced narrative
Not very encouraging for Russian historians to be independent now, is it?Replies: @Wavelength
On 5 May 2014, Russia's President Vladimir Putin signed a law that introduced criminal liability for 'infringements on historical memory with regard to the events of the Second World War'. That law added the following article to the Penal Code of the Russian Federation:
Article 354.1 Rehabilitation of Nazism
The denial of facts established by the Judgment of the International Military Tribunal for the trial and punishment of major war criminals of European countries of the Axis, the approval of crimes established by the above-mentioned Judgment, as well as dissemination of knowingly false information on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War, committed publicly, are punishable by a fine of up to three hundred thousand roubles... or by deprivation of liberty for up to 3 years."
The law also increases the punishment to up to 5 years of imprisonment if 'the same deeds[have been] committed with the use of one's official position or through the mass media, as well as with an artificial fabrication of prosecution evidence'.
This law is commonly known as the Yarovaya Act, since Irina Yarovaya, a State Duma deputy from 'United Russia', the party in power, ...
Who are "they"? How about providing specific quotes and links?
They threaten Russia all the time with all sorts of calamities.
This is just a silly fantasy. Are you suggesting that Finland and Estonia will jointly attempt to occupy or destroy St. Petersburg, and subjugate its population? Or blockade access to the Baltic Sea?
"...for a potential attack on Russia."
I was referring to the special 72-hour visa-free scheme, for Europeans and North Americans, currently limited to the St. Petersburg region, for the past years, pertaining to visitors arriving only by sea, but unsuccessfully expanded to airport arrivals, not the expanded mutual arrangement that you mentioned.
Visa-free travel is easily arranged on the mutual basis.
I can wait; there are plenty of other interesting places to visit instead – and I do every year, without the hassle of applying for and spending money on a visa. People in St. Petersburg are hurting themselves by remaining hostile to potential visitors. Hotels, restaurants, bars, night clubs, museums, guided tours, bicycle rentals, conferences, sporting events, music festivals – they all bring in tax revenues and induce local investments that are now being forfeited for some doctrinaire position.Replies: @Wavelength, @EugeneGur
So, for now St.Petersburg remains out of bounds.
I didn’t sign a surrender document; in fact I wasn’t even alive at the time.
Neither was I. What I meant by “you” is: Germany. Germany signed it where all the allies were present. Just like Japan signed its own surrender document. Russia’s claim – as the legal successor of the USSR – on Kaliningrad/Köningsberg is legal according to international law and not in dispute. What someone thinks about that, is legally irrelevant. This discussion is about nothing.
Most European countries are small, so what is peculiar is that he reserved this terminology or attribution to these three Baltic republics.
So? Why does that trigger you? So your problem is that he does not call other countries statelets? Such strange “outrage”. Please try to be more outraged, because it is unconvincing, frankly.
Your proposal for deescalation reduces to the known Israeli tactic
Well you are starting the story in the middle, isn’t that an Israeli tactic? You claim that “Russia has done something”, and “as a result NATO reacts”. You claimed that NATO expansion to the east in the 90s is somehow Russia’s fault! Ridiculous! That is an Israeli tactic.. As a German, you seem to be very intertwined with these expansionist US geo policies, which are not in Germany’s interests at all. It is really amusing to read about your so called territorial claims, when you don’t even have sovereignty of your own, you are instead defending somebody’s else geo policies. Have some self respect!
Russian holiday, based on positive achievements not related to warfare
Why shouldn’t we celebrate our victory day.. because you don’t like it? It is not your concern what we do in our country. Mind your own matters. I find your fake “outrage” amusing. A lot of countries in western Europe celebrate liberation day, and a remembrance day, all associated with WW2. Do you pretend to be outraged on them too?
former Austrian Monarchy
Ah yes, the Austrian Monarchy, the Austro-Hungarian empire, etc. also one of historical opponents of Russia. It seems to me that you are the one who needs to move on, you live in the past.
You are incorrectly presuming that I am German and that I am "outraged" when neither is the case. Also, you are falsely assuming that because Germany surrendered in May 1945, to end hostilities, that this automatically also entitles the winner to permanently claim the conquered territory for itself. This is anachronistic thinking going back to earlier times.
What I meant by “you” is: Germany. Germany signed it where all the allies were present.
Recall that I cited it as an example of a throwback to the Stalinist era, as a partial justification for my using the term "Stalinist Nostalgia", which you had objected to, to contradict the implicit suggestion in the essay by Saker, that his "modern Russia" has moved on from Stalinism.
"Why shouldn’t we celebrate our victory day.. because you don’t like it?"
This seems to me to be a reflexive ( ad hoc) assertion on your part, so I am challenging you to name the countries in western Europe that actually have an official annual holiday (when schools and government offices are closed) ,which specifically relates to a particular date during, or on the last day of World War 2 (1935-1945). No semantical excuses, and please don't bother citing that holocaust remembrance day in January that was imposed upon the world by the United Nations.
"A lot of countries in western Europe celebrate liberation day, and a remembrance day, all associated with WW2."
At the time of its break-up the Soviet troops and their families should have withdrawn from the Kaliningrad region, because the occupation was not then – nor is it now – legitimate. It was simply based on anti-German revanchism, which regrettably continues to persist and is clearly evident in your own comment ("we won the war").
The USSR does not exist anymore.
This is simply a spiteful response, an emotional expression of resentment. The constant appeals to abide by international law that we routinely hear from Putin, Lavrov, and the Russian propaganda network with regard to other conflict zones are thus sheer hypocrisy, which erodes trust.
"So no, we will not withdraw anymore."
Talk, talk, talk. Israelis have been doing this for decades with the Palestinians regarding their illegal occupation of territories. Why don't you be specific and constructively lay out what you envision a comprehensive agreement ought to entail, such as quid pro quo arrangements, demilitarization restrictions, implementation timeline, etc.
"Then we can talk."
I cited a few facts to justify this term: Putin's response last year in Kaliningrad to a question, in which he said he regrets the break-up of the USSR and would reverse it if he could, then the acclaim he received from the audience after he said this; the extravagant military Victory Day parades in early May that is gushing with nostalgia during the era of Stalin; the fact that Kalinin was a high-level Stalinist, yet the name Kaliningrad persists, whereas Leningrad and Stalingrad have been abandoned, along with making it taboo to publicly refer to the name Königsberg; those examples demonstrate a conspicuous pattern, so it is not nonsense at all.
"And please stop with your “Stalinist nostalgia” nonsense."
No, we don't "know" that at all. How could we even "know" that? You don't "know" it either because you can't predict the future. I mentioned the 2017 Zapad military exercise as evidence for skepticism. Maintaining the easy option of an invasion from Kaliningrad to connect with Belarus, which is the primary benefit of occupying the region, creates too much tension. Anybody looking at a map knows that. Yet even the author, Saker, whose assertion on this topic was the inspiration for my first post on this thread, has previously referred to the Baltic "statelets" more than once, as if though they didn't deserve full recognition because they broke away from the USSR.
Russia does not want the Baltic states, and you know that.
This isn't about geography, but about historical, cultural, and institutional attitudes.Replies: @Wavelength
Russia is partly in Europe, until the Urals...
It was simply based on anti-German revanchism
Revanchism? Revanchism for what.. for winning the war..? No, you are the one who has revanchsim. Our presence in Kaliningrad is based on the fact that we won the war, and you signed unconditional capitulation and accepted that some of your territories would be taken away. By Poland, by USSR, by France, by Denmark. But to those countries you have no questions? Strange..
your own comment (“we won the war“)
Well yes, we did won the war. Unless you have been learning some kind of “alternate history” in which the glorious Germany has won the war – even though I understand that’s more psychologically appealing to you you.
Having won a war does not justify violating basic principles of international conventions that already existed before then
Which “principles” did the USSR break? Is that a UN article? Which one? Which international law did we break by being in Kaliningrad/Köningsberg? Please give me a specific reference to an official document that says that in this day and age Köningsberg/Kalinigrad belongs to Germany and that Russia is there illegally. I won’t hold my breath though. Principles..? Is that a law or just something that you throw when it suits you? You signed the surrender document and agreed not to have territorial claims.. so YOU are the one that is in violation of the capitulation treaty. And YOU are the revanchist.
NATO troops did not arrive in that part of Europe until much later, and you can thank Yeltsin for the major blunder for having provoked that unnecessary but inevitable situation.
Yeltsin provoked NATO into expanding east..? Oh so now you trying to justify NATO expansion by blaming Russia? How did Russia “provoke” NATO in the 90s? This is the typical nonsense. Whom are you trying to fool..
hypocrisy, which erodes trust
The constant propaganda that we hear from western “media” about so called freedom and democracy is full of hypocrisy, double standards, war mongering that errodes trust. Do you have the freedom to criticize your own government for letting in all the “newcomers”, without being labeled a “racist” by you zionist media? Can you openly question the narrative of your media about Syria for example, without being labelled a “Russian agent”? That is why the EU is breaking up I guess.. oh wait.. maybe it’s a secret Russian agent plot trying to break it up! Quick, launch an investigation! NATO and the US (your occupier) does not even pretend to abide by international law, they simply do as they please. I will not quote any examples, because everyone knows them by now…
Why don’t you be specific and constructively lay out what you envision a comprehensive agreement ought to entail, such as quid pro quo arrangements, demilitarization restrictions, implementation timeline, etc.
Why should we propose something? For what? Since when do we need to propose something..? YOU are obviously unsatisfied (because you’re a revanchist).. so YOU must propose something.
the extravagant military Victory Day parades in early May that is gushing with nostalgia during the era of Stalin
No, that is gushing with nostalgia to the fact that we won despite the enormous cost. It is our duty to remember our fathers and grandfathers. Don’t act like you don’t know that. It has nothing to do with Stalin. The fact that there are old Soviet flags and symbols present there, is because the USSR won the war, not only Russia. It represents all other countries of the former USSR as well, such as: Kazakhstan, the Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia etc.
How about October 4 (launch of Sputnik satellite in 1957), or April 12 (Yuri Gagarin’s spaceflight in 1961)? Or perhaps a date predating the Bolshevist era, like September 17 (birthdate of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, the theoretical founder of rocketry, in 1857)?
Oh stop! You’re making me blush!
as if though they didn’t deserve full recognition because they broke away from the USSR
By “statelets” he obviously means that those countries are small. Why are you triggered by that? Are you going to try to police language now? Are you sure YOU’RE not the Stalinist here? And are you implying that someone did not recognize the Baltic statele.. I mean states as independent? Who!? Russia recognized them as independent.. so what are we talking about here..
The best proof that Russia really doesn’t want the Baltic states even in the future, if it is true, is for it to leave Kaliningrad, which was never a part of Russia in its history prior to 1945. It is a remnant of the Stalinist legacy; Russia should finally move forward.
I can say the same thing about NATO: the USSR and Warsaw Pact do not exist anymore, the best proof that the EU and NATO do not wish a conflict with Russia is to withdraw from our borders, and get out of the Ukraine, remove US bases from eastern Europe and perhaps even Germany, stop building the missile-defense shield in Europe. And I promise, the Russians will have a more positive view of NATO/EU, after a period of mental adjustment, premised on friendly relations..
This isn’t about geography, but about historical, cultural, and institutional attitudes.
Funny, and yet, in an earlier post you wrote this:
No it is not, with the possible exception of the region in and close to St. Petersburg.
You clearly speak of a region.. that is.. geography. So now it is suddenly about culture etc. And if we are to talk about Germany’s attitudes, then we will conclude that throughout history, it has been savage and warmongering, wants territory, wanted to exterminate populations of Europe and where workers have to drink beer in the morning otherwise they could not even work.
You can claim what ever you want, but the reality is Russia was always sovereign and unique. Russia is Russia. And the fact that we are Orthodox Christian and not Protestant and Catholic, the east-west schism of the 11th century, also plays a role no doubt, but what ever. It is not really dogmatic to us. You can call us martians if you want to, it does not change historical facts. It is just your emotional outburst because Germany and Russia were always opponents. Maybe try to suppress your “drang nach osten” next time..
This assertion is just outrageous. You are absolutely HYSTERICAL – this is completely THEATRICAL. What do you mean by your repeated accusation YOU, given that I am an analytical – and detached – observer? For your information, I didn't sign a surrender document; in fact I wasn't even alive at the time. All the viewers of your response can see that for some reason you have become "triggered" and are now incapable of being level-headed.
You signed the surrender document...so YOU are the one that is in violation of the capitulation treaty.
This was already addressed last year here on this site, when this topic arose, in a response to an essay by James Petras, so you will just have to go back to the archives for specific document references or links. Basically existing international conventions since the early 20th century refer to the INADMISSIBILITY of territorial occupation based on conquest through war. This was a key legal principle that took precluded a major incentive to engage in warfare for the sake of stealing land. Do you wish to assert that the USSR was still so backward back then that it never acknowledged or "signed onto" these basic principles, also adopted (i.e. they were already in place at the time) by the UN since then?
Which “principles” did the USSR break? Is that a UN article? Which one? Which international law did we break by being in Kaliningrad/Köningsberg?
We'll all see how long it will take for Russia to figure out a specifically Russian holiday, based on positive achievements not related to warfare, which was strongly assisted by the USA and Britain through their aerial bombings and land conquests from the west and south. Do high-level Brits or Americans (not just ambassadors) ever get invited to these annual May 9th extravaganzas?
"...not only Russia. It represents all other countries of the former USSR as well..."
Most European countries are small, so what is peculiar is that he reserved this terminology or attribution to these three Baltic republics. Go through the list to see all the other "statelets" smaller in site than Lithuania (#24 out of 50):
By “statelets” he obviously means that those countries are small.
Who are you to make such a nebulous "promise"? Your proposal for deescalation reduces to the known Israeli tactic: Do this and that first, which you are not obliged to do, and afterwards perhaps we might deign to consider doing what we are not permitted to do in the first place. You must be joking; nobody can take that seriously. This is very amateurish on your part. You're giving yourself away as a fanatic.
And I promise, the Russians will have a more positive view...
Yes, because I wanted to include New Peterhof and the island of Kronshtadt, which are outside the city limits of St. Petersburg, but still in the immediate region. Since the aristocratic Russian history includes Catherine the Great (Екатерина Алексеевна - Yekaterina Alekseyevna), a German nymphomaniac (allegedly "into" or "onto" horse cock), born in Stettin, this heritage is clearly European, unlike Moscow or places in the Ukraine that lie outside the former Austrian Monarchy.
You clearly speak of a region.
FUNNY. You're laying it on real heavy. Now how about trying to refute the arguments?
"...if he sincerely believes his own arguments..."
Obviously you must know this because that's what you are, but you're not effective due to your method, which is too transparent. How much are they paying you for such a shoddy job?Replies: @Wavelength
"I know that the demand for shills sky-rocketed in the past few years..."
You start the story in the middle, intentionally, I know. NATO was created as a counter measure the the USSR. The USSR does not exist anymore. And as you know, the USSR has allowed Germany to reunify and removed its bases from Germany. After that, NATO expanded all the way to Russia’s borders. So no, we will not withdraw anymore. You can forget it. Maybe after US leaves its bases in Europe.. Because the US having its bases in Europe is a sign of aggression towards Russia, they want to attack, they have their missiles etc etc.
You mentioned that Crimea’s reunification with Russia is legitimate? OK, thank you! So when will European countries recognize it as such? Then we can talk about Köngingsberg/Kaliningrad… When will the European leaders recognize the anti-Russian coup in the Ukraine? Then we can talk.
And please stop with your “Stalinist nostalgia” nonsense. That is something that you keep repeating, but is nowhere near the truth. Russia does not want the Baltic states, and you know that. Speaking of paranoid delusions, you are the one with a paranoid delusion, or you are a shill.
The bottom line is: we won the war. So stop talking about “friendly relations” in eastern Europe, if you had your way, eastern Europeans would not exist anymore.. don’t forget that (I’m sure you remember that, but would like to forget).
And when will the US remove its bases from Germany? Nah, your motives are transparent.
BTW. Russia is partly in Europe, until the Urals, please learn geography. 🙂
At the time of its break-up the Soviet troops and their families should have withdrawn from the Kaliningrad region, because the occupation was not then – nor is it now – legitimate. It was simply based on anti-German revanchism, which regrettably continues to persist and is clearly evident in your own comment ("we won the war").
The USSR does not exist anymore.
This is simply a spiteful response, an emotional expression of resentment. The constant appeals to abide by international law that we routinely hear from Putin, Lavrov, and the Russian propaganda network with regard to other conflict zones are thus sheer hypocrisy, which erodes trust.
"So no, we will not withdraw anymore."
Talk, talk, talk. Israelis have been doing this for decades with the Palestinians regarding their illegal occupation of territories. Why don't you be specific and constructively lay out what you envision a comprehensive agreement ought to entail, such as quid pro quo arrangements, demilitarization restrictions, implementation timeline, etc.
"Then we can talk."
I cited a few facts to justify this term: Putin's response last year in Kaliningrad to a question, in which he said he regrets the break-up of the USSR and would reverse it if he could, then the acclaim he received from the audience after he said this; the extravagant military Victory Day parades in early May that is gushing with nostalgia during the era of Stalin; the fact that Kalinin was a high-level Stalinist, yet the name Kaliningrad persists, whereas Leningrad and Stalingrad have been abandoned, along with making it taboo to publicly refer to the name Königsberg; those examples demonstrate a conspicuous pattern, so it is not nonsense at all.
"And please stop with your “Stalinist nostalgia” nonsense."
No, we don't "know" that at all. How could we even "know" that? You don't "know" it either because you can't predict the future. I mentioned the 2017 Zapad military exercise as evidence for skepticism. Maintaining the easy option of an invasion from Kaliningrad to connect with Belarus, which is the primary benefit of occupying the region, creates too much tension. Anybody looking at a map knows that. Yet even the author, Saker, whose assertion on this topic was the inspiration for my first post on this thread, has previously referred to the Baltic "statelets" more than once, as if though they didn't deserve full recognition because they broke away from the USSR.
Russia does not want the Baltic states, and you know that.
This isn't about geography, but about historical, cultural, and institutional attitudes.Replies: @Wavelength
Russia is partly in Europe, until the Urals...