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    Roughly half-way through the year 2020 it is becoming pretty obvious that there are a number of major developments which almost got our total attention, and for good reason, as these are tectonic shifts which truly qualify as "catastrophe" (under the definition "a violent and sudden change in a feature of the earth"). These are:...
  • @Bad Old Nurse
    It is dangerous and utterly nonsensical to state that Russia and "the Empire" are in a war of existential significance. It is China who threatens the world with its ambitions, and Russia is a natural ally of Northern Europe and North America, if it can simply recognize the need to earn its status rather than threaten to be taken seriously.

    Russia has fertility, productivity, and infrastructure challenges that are far more significant than any "foreign policy" concerns. I think, perhaps, Putin cannot get through his head that the USSR is gone. Russia possesses immense natural resources, intelligent, noble people, and needs mostly to have its own version of the American 19th century, ignoring the rest of the world (politically) and focusing on its own internal development.

    Replies: @Seraphim, @Wavelength

    Russia is not a natural ally of (Northern) Europe. Russia has been attacked multiple times throughout history by “enlightened” Europe. Why would Russia want to “earn” it’s “status”? What status? Russia doesn’t need to “earn” anything, especially from Europe.

    Russia is indeed at war against the neo-liberal zionist Anglo-American empire. I think if NATO/EU/US really wants to work together with Russia, they should earn Russia’s trust and stop threatening by constantly expanding to Russia’s doorstep.

    I think, perhaps, Putin cannot get through his head that the USSR is gone

    You think wrong.

    Russia has fertility, productivity, and infrastructure challenges that are far more significant than any “foreign policy” concerns.

    I think Europe has lots of internal challenges, like influx of migrants which form communities and no-go zones, the breakup of the EU (Britain and perhaps in the future Poland and more), collapse of the neo-liberal system, lots of discontent among the European population because of the policies of European governments. And yet the EU and NATO still try to dictate to others what is right and wrong, and totally ignoring what is going on domestically. That is insane!

    Russia possesses immense natural resources, intelligent, noble people, and needs mostly

    Yes. And if you want to earn respect from the Russian people, you need to change your behavior.

    • Agree: Seraphim, Patagonia Man
  • @Priss Factor

    Russia almost destroyed herself twice in just the past century: in 1917 and 1991. Each time, the price paid by the Russian people was absolutely horrendous and the Russian nation simply cannot afford another major internal conflict.
     
    But it's wrong to just blame 1917 and 1991. Why did they happen in the first place? Because Russians lack spirit. Sure, they had the Russian Soul thing, but modernity is about spirit, the spark. The daring and power to take charge of things.
    Russian elites and Russian masses were defined by lethargy. The Russian Tsar saw himself as the father of the country and his people should just obey and serve him like children. Such attitude didn't lead to inspirational leadership. And the masses were taught to just obey, be pious, keep their heads low, and just feel grateful. All of this led to enervation among elites and the masses. Elites thought they should rule just because, and the masses thought they should obey just because.
    Then, it is no wonder that the very active radical groups gained in power and publicity. Even if their ideas were dangerous, they showed inspiration and energy. In a garden, what do you focus most on? Plants or birds? On birds. Birds are active, plants are static. Russian elites and Russian masses were too static. Radicals were active. So, when crisis hit Russia, the radicals had a huge advantage.

    That is why 1917 happened. Russian Tsar, an idiot, was full of himself and regarded Russia as a great power when it wasn't. Russia was big but backward and in no position to be fighting industrialized Germany with its disciplined population. And the Russian masses just went along with the crazy idea. It led to disaster, and the radicals, so active and inspired, saw their chance and gained power.

    Same with 1991. Though communism began as a radical ideology, by the post-Khrushchev 60s, it had become just a new kind of neo-Tsarism. The Soviet elites got lazy and rested on their laurels as the Tsar had once done. And the Russian masses were without spark and care in the world as long as they had enough bread and vodka. And this led to a state of enervation that led to the collapse in the early 90s. Why did Jewish capitalist radicals take advantage in 1991 as Jewish communist radicals had taken advantage in 1917? Because Russian elites and masses are hopelessly static, unthinking, and byzantine.

    One may say Putin has been a better leader, a test case of what Stolypin might have been had he lived. But Putin is a manager, not a visionary. He offers no long-term vision. He is a 'stabil' than a radical, and in post-Yeltsin yrs Russian needed strong 'stabils' to restore order. But society needed momentum, not just order.
    And even though stability is necessary, it isn't enough to secure the future. Stability is about maintaining the status quo, not taking charge to inspire the future generation. Putin can build all the new churches in Russia. I don't object to it, but it's looking to the past, not the future. Unless Russian patriots learn to develop an active mind with spark and spirit, Russia will once grow byzantine and dreary, and then the radicals, capitalist or communist(and usually Jewish), will get another chance to take over.

    Also, even though the crises of 1917 and 1991 were terrible to Russia, they were also great lessons for Russians. Crises can be devastating but also awakening. The Great Depression of 1929 led to New Patriotism in the US that followed the decadence of the Roaring Twenties. It also led to National Socialism in Germany following the hellish yrs of Weimar, but tragically, Hitler threw it all away with reckless gambling with wars.

    In some ways, Russia might be worse off now if not for 1991. Suppose Yeltsin yrs had been tolerable and acceptable for most Russians. Suppose there was no great depression. Then, most Russian might have become like white Americans in post-WWII boom period and just took things easily. Because white Americans had so much prosperity and relaxed their guard, the Jews were able to totally transform America. In contrast, it was precisely because of the disasters of the 90s that many Russians became aware of the dangers posed by US empire, Jews, and gangster capitalism.

    In many respects, Western Europe never had it so good as during the boom yrs following WWII. But all those good times led to mass complacency. "Don't worry, be happy." So, even though the globalist elites were pushing the worst kinds of policies on the West, the masses had enough bread & circuses and didn't pay attention. Well, look at France and UK now. Poland did much better than Russia in the post-communist period as the darling of the globo-homo West, but in some ways, Poland is far more cucked than Russia is.

    Ideally, a people should notice what is wrong and what must be done BEFORE the crises strike. If the mind won't realize before bad things happen, then the body will have to learn the hard way. It's like, if your mind can't realize smoking and excess drinking aren't good, then physical agony will force one to stop smoking and excessive drinking, that is if the mind/body is to survive. Russians are weak in mind and therefore keep making the same mistakes; as such, Russians generally learn through the body only after the harm has been done. Jews lead with the mind, though often with bad ideas. But Russian lead with body, and it is only when the body suffers greatly that the feeble Russian mind realizes, 'this is bad shi*'. Learn to realize with the mind before the body is forced to realize by pain and suffering.

    Replies: @Wavelength

    I read your demagoguery and had to laugh a little.. I will assume that you are either a European or an American. Most Europeans and Americans did not realize before, what was about to happen to them, and now look what’s happening in Europe and USA.. Europe is not even Europe anymore. Was that a “spark” of the European peoples? Was the result of a vision or lack thereof I wonder… So much for the great “spirit” of European peoples..

    Ideally, a people should notice what is wrong and what must be done BEFORE the crises strike

    Sounds like you’re desperate. And really strange hearing this from a European or American. Yes, Europeans and Americans didn’t see the crisis coming.

  • First, let's begin with a few (apparently unrelated) recent news items: The latest US PR disaster in Venezuela shows that the AngloZionist Empire truly is agonizing. While this is hardly the first that that a US "special operation" goes down in an embarrassing failure, but even by US standards this latest disaster in Venezuela is...
  • @RichardTaylor
    No country is going to attack America and everyone knows it. They'd get crushed.

    American strength relative to the rest of the world isn't going anywhere. This is fantasy self-stimulation talk for frustrated people. The US will be able to neutralize China anytime it wants for generations to come, if it really needs to. There's a reason why the Chinese never had a global empire but lots of White countries have. Think.

    And this whole "AngloZionist Empire" talk sounds vaguely like old fashioned Stalinist tripe. They were always saying Big Mean America was building Muh Fascist Empire!

    Look, America has a huge Israel Lobby, we have done lots of things for Israel against our actual interests, that is true. But, if we'd wanted a worldwide empire paying tribute to us, we could have had it in 1946.

    A couple of atomic bombs near Moscow, and Stalin would have withdrawn from Eastern Europe and then put on a red dress and danced for us on TV.

    Replies: @Munga Bulga, @BuelahMan, @Biff, @neutral, @houston 1992, @FB, @haha, @Jazman, @Melotte 22, @Wavelength

    There is nothing “Stalinist” about recognizing that the US is a global empire that has 600 military bases around the world to intimidate other countries. The term “Anglo” refers to the fact that US is an English speaking empire, often supported by its vassals like the UK, along with other English speaking (Anglo) countries that make up the “5-Eyes” alliance.

    The “Zionist” part refers to the fact that a very big part of US foreign policy is made for the interests of Israel, by Jewish dual-citizens inside the US government. AIPAC is a de-facto department of the US government that (no wonder they are not even registered as a foreign agent).

    And need I remind you that the ones who came to Israel and started to steal Palestinian land, are those same bolshevik Jews from a few decades earlier, who were going around and killing Russians, destroying Orthodox Churches etc during the Russian civil war..? Also, US spies on the officials of other countries, listens to their phone conversations – this includes both adversaries and supposed ALLIES (see Merkel), very typical Stalinist paranoia. The US kidnaps foreign nationals around the world, in a very Stalinist manor. And I don’t even want to mention the fact that US has become a police state..

    So, in fact, it can be argued, that the US is a Judeo-Stalinist empire!

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Wavelength


    There is nothing “Stalinist” about recognizing that the US is a global empire ...
     
    There's truth in that but most of those talking about an "Anglo Empire" or "Anglo-Zionist" empire are coming from a certain outdated worldview. As you can see, some really do think Stalin was spiffy and that America was "cowed" before his might. That myth needs to go away.

    My point is that if the American people, or the American leaders back a few generations, had wished to have an explicit worldwide empire, they could have had it.

    Today, others are using the machinery of the American state to push ends that aren't in America's interests. Sometimes they are pro-Israel, sometimes they are SJWs from the Ivy League who've inherited a power they never could have built.

  • For those of us who followed the Russian Internet there is a highly visible phenomenon taking place which is quite startling: there are a lot of anti-Putin videos posted on YouTube or its Russian equivalents. Not only that, but a flurry of channels has recently appeared which seem to have made bashing Putin or Mishustin...
  • @uradel666
    @Derer

    1. If he should have annexed East Ukraine with 12m deep down then Ukraine Should have taken back the "Moscow" as its historical place (summer cottage) for Yuri Dolgoruky, the Grand Prince of Kiev, who had built it up for himself for meeting with his friends after falconry.

    2. If he should have annexed East Ukraine then Germans should have taken back Prussia (Kaliningradskaya Oblast') as their historical place;

    3. If he should have annexed East Ukraine then Baltics and Finns should have taken back Leningrad Oblast and Karelia (north-west of Russia) as their historical place;

    4. If he should have annexed East Ukraine then Sweden should have taken back Velikiy Novgorod as its historical place;

    5. If he should have annexed East Ukraine then China should have taken back Siberia as its historical place;

    6. If he should have annexed East Ukraine then Japan should have taken back Kuril Islands and Vladivostok as their historical place;
    And so and so forth…

    Shut your mouth up, take the Saker and similar to that flotsam and jetsam and GTFO here to your Fu.king FinnougricLand (Ural) and get drunk with Vodka.

    PS
    Russia does not have any historical place either within Russia or somewhere about

    Replies: @Derer, @Adûnâi, @Wavelength

    There’s lots of historical illiteracy in your comment. For instance, the Ukraine has no claim on anything, because the Ukraine did not even exist back in those days.

    Yuri Dolgorukiy was indeed the founder of Moscow, but you have to realize that he, and other princes (kniaz’) like him, were RUSSIAN (russkiy), not Ukrainian. It was called Kievan RUS’ not Kievan UKR.

    Kievan Rus’ was just one of several Russian principalities. There were for example also Novgorodian Rus’, Pskovian Rus’, Moscovian Rus’, Vladimir Rus’ etc. Those were Russian principalities and not Ukrainian. I understand that Ukrainians have a ‘young-country-complex’, meaning they miss those things almost every other country has: a long history, identity, heroes and villains, victories and tragedies. That’s why the constant need to claim (parts of) Russian history as your own, like you’re trying to do with the city of Kiev for example, claiming that it has nothing to do with Russia historically.. even though Oleg specifically called it the Mother of Russian Cities, after he captured it in 882, as per the Tale of Bygone Years.

    Or this new attempt to change the spelling of Kiev into Kyiv. All old historical documents and maps refer to it as Kiev/Kiew/Kieff. You can look in old encyclopedias for example the Meyers Konversations-Lexikon, German encyclopedia 1909 edition. Or a GREAT Russian encyclopedia series The History of Russia, published between 1851 and 1880 I believe, by Sergei Soloviev. There is no mention of Ukraine in there anywhere. In the context of Old Rus’, the principalities are called simple Rus’, or Rus(s)ian land.

    So if anyone is going to annex something, it should be Russia by gaining back its historical lands in eastern and central (Kiev) Ukraine. However, that is unlikely to happen! And I have no problem with Ukraine being a country. But I do have a problem with ukrainization of historical Russian land, which has been going on since the Soviet times! The bolsheviks started to open up various Ukrainian language schools and promote Ukrainian language (mova) to areas where people never spoke Ukrainian.

    And by the way: West Ukraine (Galicia) is NOT historical Russian land, because West Ukraine is historically Polish, Hungarian, Romanian. West Ukrainians’ historical city is not Kiev, but Lemberg (today Lviv).

    As for the your China and Siberia, that is just laughable!

    About Köningsberg, Kuril Islands and Karelia. Those are more recent, but indeed are not historic Russian lands. However their political future is not up for debate, especially now that we have seen what happened to the famous (or infamous) “NATO will not expand one inch east, if East and West Germany reunites”… although some kind of “deal of the century” could be made, if US agrees to remove ALL of its bases from Germany and signs a document where it says that US will not interfere in the business/economic affairs between Russia and Germany… hmmm?

    • Replies: @Uradel666
    @Wavelength

    That is all baloney what you are talking about.

    It is all historical garbage!
    Are you historical agent-provocateur?

    Are you in your right senses?!!!!!!!

    1. The First Emperor (Tsar) of Russia was Peter, the Great 1682-1725.

    2. Russia didn’t exist before him as a Country.

    3. There was Grand duchy of Moscow (or Tsardome of Moscovy) at that point in time and many other independent (!) small princedoms existed thereabout which didn’t belong to Russia (because was no any Russia at that date).

    4. Kyiv Rus was Dominant all over the place.

    5. Since Rurik came to Kyiv (830 AD), all his descendant (Velikiy Kniaz) were born and lived in Kyiv Rus.

    6. Moscovy and many other places in Contemporary Russia had been all established by Kyiv Kniaz and belong to them.

    7. Yuri Dolgoruky was a Russian?!
    Are you Crazy or insane?
    Yuri Dolgoruky was Rurikid Prince whose ancestors lived in Kyiv since Rurik and "Igor of Kyiv" the First Kniaz of Kyiv (born in 879 AD).

    8.Ethnic Russian, i.e. Finno-Ugric people (many Finno-Ugric tribes) were never allowed to be Aristocracy in Rus’ and then in Russia up until 1917 and late.

    Imprint this in your memory: History of Finno-Ugric tribes (those indigenous people who live within the territory of Russia), History of the Russian Nobility, and History of the Russia as a Country (territorial integrity), these are three completely different subjects of history.

    9. Yuri Dolgoruky (1099-1157!!!!!) was the founder of the "Moscow" (backward term), namely, the summer cottage (hut on chicken legs) for meeting with his friends after falconry. There was no Russia at that date at all!!! That’s why this "Moscow" belonged to Kyiv. That’s why many Russian Territories belong to Kyiv. Russia knows that fact. That’s Why Russia wants to war down Kyiv.

    Russia it is a Mythical literature Country. Go to College and improve your study skills!

    You are shitting through your mouth.

    I'm done with you.

    Replies: @RT

    , @Uradel666
    @Wavelength

    That's why Rurik dynasty (Kyiv dynasty) was changed to Romanov dynasty bolonged to Family of Moscow Boyars.

    I'm done with you

    Replies: @ploni almoni

  • @Michael McCarthy
    Let's dig deep. I was interviewed over two days, back in 1991, by KGB officer's in Moscow. I was competing as a member of the Australian team, in an international skydiving competition at the time. I was being accused of foreign currency exchange crimes with the Russian team. The head of the Russian air force rescued me. I keep in touch with Russian's and on occasion, I have fellowship with members of the Russian orthodox church, here in Ireland. Putin, like Trump, has a lead role in a cage. The book, Putin's reign of Terror by Christopher Jon Bjerkness, is an important read. Free speech is not free in Russia. There is much to admire but we might be witnessing well orchestrated theatre. Study the cage. Read the book.

    Replies: @450.org, @450.org, @Derer, @Wavelength

    Christopher Jon Bjerkness is a disinfo agent. His anti-Russian talking points are the typical lie propaganda slogans one can hear in the western MSM. It’s part of an effort to ‘redirect’ the attention and anger of the nationalist-minded people in the west against Russia.

    I seem to remember some time ago when FBI agents were posting on 8chan and spreading anti-Russian conspiracy theories.

    As for free speech in Russia: most of what you hear in the west about Russian free speech is incorrect. There are many people who criticize Putin, in media and also common people online, bloggers etc. Yes, Russia is not the west (thank God) and always was more authoritarian compared to the west. That is normal, it’s not good or bad. Every region of the world has its own societal and political culture. So to apply your own standards onto others, is not realistic. What works in one region of the world, will not necessarily work in others. That’s why “nation building” is an insane western neo-con idea, and it will never work!

  • There are two names which often trigger a very strong and hostile reaction from many Russians: Alexander Solzhenitsyn and Vladimir Rezun aka "Viktor Suvorov". The list of accusations against these two men usually includes: Alexander Solzhenitsyn: he made up numbers about 66 million people killed by the Soviet regime, he spoke favorably of General Andrei...
  • @L.K
    @Wavelength

    I know I'm dealing with a know-nothing bullshitter when the best you can do is name some youtuber nonsense to make your case, which tells me you NEVER studied the issue in any depth and never read the literature.


    So they often stated myths about the USSR. Only after the collapse of the USSR, did the Soviet records became public, and are now offering a counter narrative to the “official” German-influenced narrative
     
    The above is another dead giveaway that you have ZERO idea what you are talking about.

    The official "history" about the German-Soviet conflict has always been and largely continues to be the propaganda version that the peace-loving Soviet Union was suddenly and treacherously attacked by a Hitler in search for an Empire in the East.

    The partial opening of Soviet archival materials, closed again by the Russian government, allowed many Russian ( as well as some Germans)historians to reach far different conclusions about the true nature of the conflict.
    This is precisely the reason why the Russian government closed the archives and passed legislation punishing dissenting historians. So perhaps the Saker should spare us all the BS about how free Russians are to explore inconvenient truths.
    This extensive body of work in Russian and German has been largely ignored in the West and most of it has never been translated into English, greatly limiting its reach.

    In the 2018 book 'Law and Memory: Towards Legal Governance of History', chapter 14( Defending Stalinism by Means of Criminal Law ), Russian historian Nikolay Koposov writes:

    On 5 May 2014, Russia's President Vladimir Putin signed a law that introduced criminal liability for 'infringements on historical memory with regard to the events of the Second World War'. That law added the following article to the Penal Code of the Russian Federation:
    Article 354.1 Rehabilitation of Nazism
    The denial of facts established by the Judgment of the International Military Tribunal for the trial and punishment of major war criminals of European countries of the Axis, the approval of crimes established by the above-mentioned Judgment, as well as dissemination of knowingly false information on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War, committed publicly, are punishable by a fine of up to three hundred thousand roubles... or by deprivation of liberty for up to 3 years."
    The law also increases the punishment to up to 5 years of imprisonment if 'the same deeds[have been] committed with the use of one's official position or through the mass media, as well as with an artificial fabrication of prosecution evidence
    '.
    This law is commonly known as the Yarovaya Act, since Irina Yarovaya, a State Duma deputy from 'United Russia', the party in power, ...
     
    Not very encouraging for Russian historians to be independent now, is it?

    Replies: @Wavelength

    Just calling it “bullshit” because you don’t like what you’re hearing doesn’t make it so. The vast majority of the German-influenced version of the war comes from Franz Halder specifically, and his “mad man Hitler!” theory, along with these: “it was the winter!”, “there were too many of them we were simply outnumbered!”. All of these claims have been debunked.

    It was necessary for the Germans to portray themselves as the good guys to the western allies to sell themselves, and to portray the Soviets as the epitome of evil to make the Germans seem less guilty, often by exaggerating or just lying and making up crimes the Soviets have committed. To do that, they tried to distance themselves from Hitler, make it seem as if everything is solely his fault (“mad man Hitler!”), that the supposedly “professional” German army, who were still using horses for their transport by the way, didn’t commit any crimes in eastern Europe, or that all the German strategic failures are simply the result of mad man Hitler, “being outnumbered!” and “snow!”, and not the incompetence of the German generals.

    But you are right to say that for most of the time, Hollywood was portraying the war not positive to the Germans.. why would they? But they have, and still are portraying the war from an AMERICAN/WESTERN point of view! They are under the impression that WW2 was this one big anti-Semitic operation, stopped only by the Americans and the Brits.. which is absurd. They hardly ever mention the role USSR played, which had the biggest role in stopping the Nazis, or what was happening in eastern Europe, Lebensraum, attempted eradication and enslavement of the Slavic peoples, etc.

    While the notes and memoirs of captured Germans, like Halder, served as a source for many history books, documentary shows, etc. because the Germans got the story out first. And for a long time it couldn’t be challenged/debunked. So my original argument that the USSR couldn’t get the word out, and the official narrative remained heavily influenced by the Germans (combined with Hollywood Western narrative), still stands.

    The Russian archives have been open since the 90s, if one wants to know the truth, one will study both sides of the narrative, and decide for himself.

    And as for your:

    closed again by the Russian government

    statement.. it’s untrue:

    https://www.rt.com/news/478610-russia-fight-history-distortion-putin/

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
    @Wavelength

    > "The video you referenced is not Russian, but Ukrainian. They speak Ukrainian there, and it is written in Ukrainian. But I guess, you not being able to speak Russian, don’t know the difference huh."

    Little Russian is a dialect of Russian. You should have known that. Unless we are being here politically correct to my irrelevant pygmy nation of pseudohistorians and witches.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/f65rwb/why_do_so_many_educated_ukrainians_believe_in/

    > "didn’t commit any crimes in eastern Europe"

    Do you consider gassing Jews a crime?

    > "Hollywood was portraying the war not positive to the Germans.. why would they?"

    Because Germans and Americans are of the same racial stock and have no grudges against each other?

    > "But they have, and still are portraying the war from an AMERICAN/WESTERN point of view! They are under the impression that WW2 was this one big anti-Semitic operation, stopped only by the Americans and the Brits.. which is absurd."

    True, Americans view wars not as international fights, but as some weird anarchist struggle for absolute good. Americans have no notion of being a country (as they live on an island). Their propaganda never concerns itself with states, only individuals. Compare Batman to the DPRK propaganda. Batman is one superhuman policeman fighting robbers in a big city, whereas Koreans are a collective of factory workers, farmers, intelligentsia and soldiers battling foreign invaders shoulder to shoulder.

    https://www.koreareaders.com/2020/01/dprk-posters-headon-breakthrough.html

    > "They hardly ever mention the role USSR played, which had the biggest role in stopping the Nazis, or what was happening in eastern Europe, Lebensraum, attempted eradication and enslavement of the Slavic peoples, etc."

    What's so bad about civilizing Slavdom? Wouldn't you take it as a price for exterminating Jewry, Christianity, and saving the Nordic race?

    Although I will be the first to admit the German foolishness for not preparing for total war before February 1943, for not recognizing the Ukraine in Lemberg and Kiev, and for preferring Christtard Melnykians to Banderians.

    , @L.K
    @Wavelength

    The Anglo-Americans have produced their propaganda "version" of the war and so have the Russians and I don't care for either.

    That you seem to believe the Russian archives are open since the 90s is clear proof of how deluded you are.
    For the record, I will repeat; the archives were PARTIALLY opened after the fall of the Soviet Union and after the so called "new Russian historians", not to mention foreign ones, started to find a lot of documents that were "harmful" to the established propaganda version of the so called 'Great Patriotic War", the archives have largely been closed again. They are closely supervised, and only Court historians that can be trusted to perpetuate the approved story have better access. This is the case, for instance, with the Israeli Gabriel Gorodetsky.

    The situation is so bad that full access to independent Russian historians to the archives in order to determine exactly how many irrecoverable military losses the Soviets suffered has been made nearly impossible by the Russian authorities.

    This is because even the issue of Soviet casualties have been heavily politicized in Russia, a situation Russia inherited from the Soviet Union and did not change.
    Soviet and now Russian court historians have greatly downplayed the Soviet military losses while grotesquely exaggerating those of their Axis opponents, the Germans in particular.

    Russian military historians Boris Kavalerchik and Lev Lopukhovsky, both former Soviet officers, with Lopukhovsky having taught at the Frunze Military Academy & later becoming a professor in the Russian Federation’s Academy of Military Sciences, discuss in their book "The Price of Victory - The Red Army's Casualties in the Great Patriotic War", the difficulties to access the archival data. For ex, they write:


    ...Russia’s military history must be liberated from the false dogmas and stratification resulting from the ideological tenets of the Central Committee of the CPSU. ...

    For this, it is necessary to create the appropriate conditions: first and foremost, to open the remaining closed archive collections, particularly the General Staff collection; to digitize all archive materials for better storage and ease of access for all; and to actively continue to publish collections of archive documents.
    Unfortunately, those participating in the creation and reanimation of myths about the Great Patriotic War are hindering in any way possible the publication of the most important documents about the war, including those that concern casualties.
     
    Now, right after the end of the war, with the beginning of the Cold War, Stalin would have had objective reasons not to disclose how badly the Red Army had been bled. But now, it seems it is basically just HUBRIS.

    If at present, the Russian authorities cannot be transparent even on something as the number of casualties the Red Army incurred, clearly they are not when it comes to what really matters, i.e, the responsibilities of the Stalin regime in making a war with Germany all but impossible to avoid, its expansionist policies, etc.
  • @Adûnâi
    > "It is my opinion that over its history the Soviet regime changed rather often and rather dramatically."

    This recap of historical periods is something people generally do not do. They think in black-and-white terms (not races). It reminds me of how gamers rave about the Activision-Blizzard merger in 2008, but the history of Blizzard in fact has encompassed quite a few epochs in 1991-2020.

    > "Does anybody even remember Chernenko?"

    My mom does, she says her step-dad called him "Chernushkin".

    > "which goes something like this: “Russians have never known freedom and they don’t care about it. Russians have a slave mentality and all they want is some kind of dictator (Czar or Commissar – makes no difference to them) to rule over them with an iron fist“"

    Does it not require a strong will to oppose liberalism that promises freedom and with it - moral decay and mortal decadence? Do you not need freedom to obey?

    > "We all know about 9/11, but that is hardly a unique example."

    Please, don't tell me that you believe in conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11.

    > "And then, there are the much more serious cases, including the historical truth about the so-called “Holocaust”. Or, who carries the responsibility for starting WWII?"

    Germany started it by foolishly attacking Poland.

    > "cost us 66.7 million people"

    Why did Solzhenitsyn say nothing of the evils of the modern genocidal Russian Judaeo-Christian regime under Yeltsin and Putin?

    > "Sergei Lukianenko"

    My favourite modern Russian writer is Viktor Pelevin. Especially his later works (not the earliest!).

    > "During the Soviet period the Solzhenitsyn haters liked to refer to him as “Solzhenitser” (hinting that he might be a Jew). Nowadays, Solzhenitsyn haters in Russia refer to him as SoLZHEnitsyn (the letters “lzhe” means “lie” in Russian, suggesting that he is a liar). That tells you all you need to know about the degree of sophistication these folks are capable of…"

    Russians are notorious for being the Niggers of the White race and unable to conduct a rational discussion. Check out this childish Little Russian video by Toronto TV aimed against one YouTuber supersharij - it is full of "funny" in-group jokes and nothing else! Nothing else!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__D9Biw7cs

    > "famous book, “Icebreaker” (“Ледокол”) in which Rezun, writing as “Viktor Suvorov” claimed"

    You missed two commas here.

    > "Depends whom you ask; due the hatred"

    Prepositions on and to, respectively, are missing.

    > "Khrushchev was the worst, most immoral, incompetent, hypocritical, inept and otherwise despicable Soviet leader ever"

    Whom did Khrushchev betray? Was it not Stalin? Did he not betray Stalin just like the Russian people would later go on to betray their own Soviet Union, just as America betrayed its mother Germania, just as Clovis betrayed his Germanic gods?

    Replies: @Wavelength

    The video you referenced is not Russian, but Ukrainian. They speak Ukrainian there, and it is written in Ukrainian. But I guess, you not being able to speak Russian, don’t know the difference huh.

  • @Johnny Walker Read
    Stupid Americans, buying into the lie Putin is a nationalist who loves all people, even Christians and is the most moral leader in the world. It's time for a wake up pill. Quit buying the lies.
    WILL VLADIMIR PUTIN SAVE THE WORLD?
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/eBkizFMueSKt/

    Replies: @Wavelength, @FB

    “Vigilante_Intelligence” aka Johnny Gat (Ziony Rat) is an anti-Russia propaganda channel, pretending to be “based anti-zionist”, while spreading his J MSM approved anti-Russia drivel. A lot of people distrust the MSM today, so they’re trying a new tactic: pretend to be alternative media, and try to sway people into being anti-Russian.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
    @Wavelength

    So far it is the only place you will hear the Russian propaganda print and video rag known as Russia Today exposed for what it is.
    Think there is only fake news in America? Think again comrade.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/aivGGQlHSon3/

  • The “preemptive strike” idea has been debunked by historians who have studied Soviet and German military operations right before and during the war. This video, made by youtuber TIK, delves into this “Icebreaker” book and analyzes the claims with official historical records, troop numbers etc.

    Also, one must take into consideration that for a long time, during the cold war, the Soviet records were not accessible to the public, while the German records were. A lot of captured German officers, soldiers etc, wanted to sell themselves to the western allies, in the coming cold war with the USSR. So they often stated myths about the USSR. Only after the collapse of the USSR, did the Soviet records became public, and are now offering a counter narrative to the “official” German-influenced narrative.

    • Troll: L.K, Vaterland
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    @Wavelength

    There is nothing even remotely “open” about access to Soviet archives. Not even Glantz claims to have had open access.

    Replies: @Epigon

    , @L.K
    @Wavelength

    I know I'm dealing with a know-nothing bullshitter when the best you can do is name some youtuber nonsense to make your case, which tells me you NEVER studied the issue in any depth and never read the literature.


    So they often stated myths about the USSR. Only after the collapse of the USSR, did the Soviet records became public, and are now offering a counter narrative to the “official” German-influenced narrative
     
    The above is another dead giveaway that you have ZERO idea what you are talking about.

    The official "history" about the German-Soviet conflict has always been and largely continues to be the propaganda version that the peace-loving Soviet Union was suddenly and treacherously attacked by a Hitler in search for an Empire in the East.

    The partial opening of Soviet archival materials, closed again by the Russian government, allowed many Russian ( as well as some Germans)historians to reach far different conclusions about the true nature of the conflict.
    This is precisely the reason why the Russian government closed the archives and passed legislation punishing dissenting historians. So perhaps the Saker should spare us all the BS about how free Russians are to explore inconvenient truths.
    This extensive body of work in Russian and German has been largely ignored in the West and most of it has never been translated into English, greatly limiting its reach.

    In the 2018 book 'Law and Memory: Towards Legal Governance of History', chapter 14( Defending Stalinism by Means of Criminal Law ), Russian historian Nikolay Koposov writes:

    On 5 May 2014, Russia's President Vladimir Putin signed a law that introduced criminal liability for 'infringements on historical memory with regard to the events of the Second World War'. That law added the following article to the Penal Code of the Russian Federation:
    Article 354.1 Rehabilitation of Nazism
    The denial of facts established by the Judgment of the International Military Tribunal for the trial and punishment of major war criminals of European countries of the Axis, the approval of crimes established by the above-mentioned Judgment, as well as dissemination of knowingly false information on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War, committed publicly, are punishable by a fine of up to three hundred thousand roubles... or by deprivation of liberty for up to 3 years."
    The law also increases the punishment to up to 5 years of imprisonment if 'the same deeds[have been] committed with the use of one's official position or through the mass media, as well as with an artificial fabrication of prosecution evidence
    '.
    This law is commonly known as the Yarovaya Act, since Irina Yarovaya, a State Duma deputy from 'United Russia', the party in power, ...
     
    Not very encouraging for Russian historians to be independent now, is it?

    Replies: @Wavelength

  • There is no doubt that the 9/11 false flag (now even admitted (by direct implication) by NIST!) was a watershed, a seminal event in our history. While millions (or even billions) watched in horror as the twin towers burned, a small group of Mossad agents stood nearby and danced in overwhelming joy. Why exactly were...
  • @Been_there_done_that
    @EugeneGur


    They threaten Russia all the time with all sorts of calamities.
     
    Who are "they"? How about providing specific quotes and links?

    "...all the time," every day, perpetually...?

    What kind of calamities are you referring to?

    Do they include "boiling in excrement"?

    I've heard a variation of this so many times:

    "Oy vey, they want to drive us into the sea..."

    "...for a potential attack on Russia."
     
    This is just a silly fantasy. Are you suggesting that Finland and Estonia will jointly attempt to occupy or destroy St. Petersburg, and subjugate its population? Or blockade access to the Baltic Sea?

    Visa-free travel is easily arranged on the mutual basis.
     
    I was referring to the special 72-hour visa-free scheme, for Europeans and North Americans, currently limited to the St. Petersburg region, for the past years, pertaining to visitors arriving only by sea, but unsuccessfully expanded to airport arrivals, not the expanded mutual arrangement that you mentioned.

    So, for now St.Petersburg remains out of bounds.
     
    I can wait; there are plenty of other interesting places to visit instead – and I do every year, without the hassle of applying for and spending money on a visa. People in St. Petersburg are hurting themselves by remaining hostile to potential visitors. Hotels, restaurants, bars, night clubs, museums, guided tours, bicycle rentals, conferences, sporting events, music festivals – they all bring in tax revenues and induce local investments that are now being forfeited for some doctrinaire position.

    Replies: @Wavelength, @EugeneGur

    I didn’t sign a surrender document; in fact I wasn’t even alive at the time.

    Neither was I. What I meant by “you” is: Germany. Germany signed it where all the allies were present. Just like Japan signed its own surrender document. Russia’s claim – as the legal successor of the USSR – on Kaliningrad/Köningsberg is legal according to international law and not in dispute. What someone thinks about that, is legally irrelevant. This discussion is about nothing.

    Most European countries are small, so what is peculiar is that he reserved this terminology or attribution to these three Baltic republics.

    So? Why does that trigger you? So your problem is that he does not call other countries statelets? Such strange “outrage”. Please try to be more outraged, because it is unconvincing, frankly.

    Your proposal for deescalation reduces to the known Israeli tactic

    Well you are starting the story in the middle, isn’t that an Israeli tactic? You claim that “Russia has done something”, and “as a result NATO reacts”. You claimed that NATO expansion to the east in the 90s is somehow Russia’s fault! Ridiculous! That is an Israeli tactic.. As a German, you seem to be very intertwined with these expansionist US geo policies, which are not in Germany’s interests at all. It is really amusing to read about your so called territorial claims, when you don’t even have sovereignty of your own, you are instead defending somebody’s else geo policies. Have some self respect!

    Russian holiday, based on positive achievements not related to warfare

    Why shouldn’t we celebrate our victory day.. because you don’t like it? It is not your concern what we do in our country. Mind your own matters. I find your fake “outrage” amusing. A lot of countries in western Europe celebrate liberation day, and a remembrance day, all associated with WW2. Do you pretend to be outraged on them too?

    former Austrian Monarchy

    Ah yes, the Austrian Monarchy, the Austro-Hungarian empire, etc. also one of historical opponents of Russia. It seems to me that you are the one who needs to move on, you live in the past.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
    @Wavelength


    What I meant by “you” is: Germany. Germany signed it where all the allies were present.
     
    You are incorrectly presuming that I am German and that I am "outraged" when neither is the case. Also, you are falsely assuming that because Germany surrendered in May 1945, to end hostilities, that this automatically also entitles the winner to permanently claim the conquered territory for itself. This is anachronistic thinking going back to earlier times.

    During and after the conclusion of the Potsdam Conference the USSR never received permission from the other allies to incorporate the occupied territory into the USSR, which would violate the existing principle of the inadmissibility of territorial acquisition and incorporation through conquest and displacement of the native population through war. Furthermore, the formal agreement in 1990 pertaining to Germany's borders conclusively settled the issue with Poland, but not the USSR. Of course Gorbachov, Yeltsin and Putin know this, as does anybody else with a basic understanding of international law and conventions. This is why Yeltsin was willing to cede the area to Germany and why Putin tacitly acknowledged this in that interview with Bloomberg in 2016, saying he was willing to talk about it, that is, negotiate a settlement.

    Your argument essentially reduces to: If Israel can break international law by conveniently holding onto territory it occupied after a war then Russia can do it too. Also, when you claim that Russia has no interest in invading the Baltic states what you really mean is: At the current time, based on political circumstances, Putin does not intend to invade these countries. This does not preclude the possibility, that under a different leadership and changed circumstances (for instance a weak defense by NATO), Russia would not take advantage of an opportunity to invade, say, under the pretext of needing to protect the Russian minority there. Russia's continued occupation preserves this option; therefore the tension will continue until it finally leaves, as it is obliged to do. By remaining, Russia is signaling that it wants to preserve the option of a possible invasion in the future.

    So, really, the issue is rather basic. Once you understand these facts everything should become more clear. Given that you were apparently unaware of these issues underscores the effect that Russian propaganda has had on you. You ought to stop being in denial.

    Of course Russia can choose its own holiday. I merely suggested that its current choice tacitly conveys lingering Stalinist nostalgia, as does the name Kaliningrad. Referring to the western part of Ukraine that was part of the Austrian Empire merely delineate what I consider to still be Europe, for historical reasons, just like St. Petersburg. That is not nostalgia, just an acknowledgment of a cultural legacy. In any case, whereas a Stalinist association has negative connotations, Katherine the Great and the Austrian monarchy were comparatively benign.
    , @Been_there_done_that
    @Wavelength


    "Why shouldn’t we celebrate our victory day.. because you don’t like it?"
     
    Recall that I cited it as an example of a throwback to the Stalinist era, as a partial justification for my using the term "Stalinist Nostalgia", which you had objected to, to contradict the implicit suggestion in the essay by Saker, that his "modern Russia" has moved on from Stalinism.

    Russia's "Victory Day" in May is peculiar in that it celebrates with a huge military parade an event that occurred outside its own territory (which of course does not include Kaliningrad), was based on notorious atrocities against civilians and war crimes, and was substantially enabled by military forces from many other countries, who advanced to central Europe from the west and south, on the ground and in the air, though they don't seem to get much credit for their involvement. By contrast my suggestions for conceivable post-Stalinist holidays pertain to milestone advances by the USSR.

    "A lot of countries in western Europe celebrate liberation day, and a remembrance day, all associated with WW2."
     
    This seems to me to be a reflexive ( ad hoc) assertion on your part, so I am challenging you to name the countries in western Europe that actually have an official annual holiday (when schools and government offices are closed) ,which specifically relates to a particular date during, or on the last day of World War 2 (1935-1945). No semantical excuses, and please don't bother citing that holocaust remembrance day in January that was imposed upon the world by the United Nations.

    To my knowledge the only western European country that celebrates the last day of the war is France, which surely does not have a Stalinist component. Elsewhere, in central Europe, it was commemorated by Czechoslovakia, which has since split up. (During most of the war both these countries were occupied entirely.) Not even D-Day is a national holiday in France or Britain – it is just a photo opportunity for politicians every five years – so I am curious how many western European countries you come up with.

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  • @Been_there_done_that
    @Wavelength


    The USSR does not exist anymore.
     
    At the time of its break-up the Soviet troops and their families should have withdrawn from the Kaliningrad region, because the occupation was not then – nor is it now – legitimate. It was simply based on anti-German revanchism, which regrettably continues to persist and is clearly evident in your own comment ("we won the war").

    Having won a war does not justify violating basic principles of international conventions that already existed before then. But instead, Yeltsin, the alcoholic, reportedly had grand delusions about turning this region into some profitable trade zone; when that didn't work out he became greedy and offered to "sell" the region to Germany for billions of dollars.

    NATO troops did not arrive in that part of Europe until much later, and you can thank Yeltsin for the major blunder for having provoked that unnecessary but inevitable situation. (I understand his poor decisions had caused numerous other adverse circumstances for Russia.) If Russia had left that outpost back then there would have been no requests by the countries there to join NATO and bring in military assistance. Your narrative has a major shortcoming because you have mixed up cause and effect.

    "So no, we will not withdraw anymore."
     
    This is simply a spiteful response, an emotional expression of resentment. The constant appeals to abide by international law that we routinely hear from Putin, Lavrov, and the Russian propaganda network with regard to other conflict zones are thus sheer hypocrisy, which erodes trust.

    "Then we can talk."
     
    Talk, talk, talk. Israelis have been doing this for decades with the Palestinians regarding their illegal occupation of territories. Why don't you be specific and constructively lay out what you envision a comprehensive agreement ought to entail, such as quid pro quo arrangements, demilitarization restrictions, implementation timeline, etc.

    "And please stop with your “Stalinist nostalgia” nonsense."
     
    I cited a few facts to justify this term: Putin's response last year in Kaliningrad to a question, in which he said he regrets the break-up of the USSR and would reverse it if he could, then the acclaim he received from the audience after he said this; the extravagant military Victory Day parades in early May that is gushing with nostalgia during the era of Stalin; the fact that Kalinin was a high-level Stalinist, yet the name Kaliningrad persists, whereas Leningrad and Stalingrad have been abandoned, along with making it taboo to publicly refer to the name Königsberg; those examples demonstrate a conspicuous pattern, so it is not nonsense at all.

    I think May 9 has outlived its usefulness. Maybe Russia could change its national holiday to reflect achievements other than winning a brutal war that entailed rape, pillage, mass murder, expulsions, and other aggressive behavior? A memorable event that occurred after Stalin had died wouldn't be a bad idea. How about October 4 (launch of Sputnik satellite in 1957), or April 12 (Yuri Gagarin's spaceflight in 1961)? Or perhaps a date predating the Bolshevist era, like September 17 (birthdate of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, the theoretical founder of rocketry, in 1857)?

    Russia does not want the Baltic states, and you know that.
     
    No, we don't "know" that at all. How could we even "know" that? You don't "know" it either because you can't predict the future. I mentioned the 2017 Zapad military exercise as evidence for skepticism. Maintaining the easy option of an invasion from Kaliningrad to connect with Belarus, which is the primary benefit of occupying the region, creates too much tension. Anybody looking at a map knows that. Yet even the author, Saker, whose assertion on this topic was the inspiration for my first post on this thread, has previously referred to the Baltic "statelets" more than once, as if though they didn't deserve full recognition because they broke away from the USSR.

    The best proof that Russia really doesn't want the Baltic states even in the future, if it is true, is for it to leave Kaliningrad, which was never a part of Russia in its history prior to 1945. It is a remnant of the Stalinist legacy; Russia should finally move forward.

    Russia is partly in Europe, until the Urals...
     
    This isn't about geography, but about historical, cultural, and institutional attitudes.

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    It was simply based on anti-German revanchism

    Revanchism? Revanchism for what.. for winning the war..? No, you are the one who has revanchsim. Our presence in Kaliningrad is based on the fact that we won the war, and you signed unconditional capitulation and accepted that some of your territories would be taken away. By Poland, by USSR, by France, by Denmark. But to those countries you have no questions? Strange..

    your own comment (“we won the war“)

    Well yes, we did won the war. Unless you have been learning some kind of “alternate history” in which the glorious Germany has won the war – even though I understand that’s more psychologically appealing to you you.

    Having won a war does not justify violating basic principles of international conventions that already existed before then

    Which “principles” did the USSR break? Is that a UN article? Which one? Which international law did we break by being in Kaliningrad/Köningsberg? Please give me a specific reference to an official document that says that in this day and age Köningsberg/Kalinigrad belongs to Germany and that Russia is there illegally. I won’t hold my breath though. Principles..? Is that a law or just something that you throw when it suits you? You signed the surrender document and agreed not to have territorial claims.. so YOU are the one that is in violation of the capitulation treaty. And YOU are the revanchist.

    NATO troops did not arrive in that part of Europe until much later, and you can thank Yeltsin for the major blunder for having provoked that unnecessary but inevitable situation.

    Yeltsin provoked NATO into expanding east..? Oh so now you trying to justify NATO expansion by blaming Russia? How did Russia “provoke” NATO in the 90s? This is the typical nonsense. Whom are you trying to fool..

    hypocrisy, which erodes trust

    The constant propaganda that we hear from western “media” about so called freedom and democracy is full of hypocrisy, double standards, war mongering that errodes trust. Do you have the freedom to criticize your own government for letting in all the “newcomers”, without being labeled a “racist” by you zionist media? Can you openly question the narrative of your media about Syria for example, without being labelled a “Russian agent”? That is why the EU is breaking up I guess.. oh wait.. maybe it’s a secret Russian agent plot trying to break it up! Quick, launch an investigation! NATO and the US (your occupier) does not even pretend to abide by international law, they simply do as they please. I will not quote any examples, because everyone knows them by now…

    Why don’t you be specific and constructively lay out what you envision a comprehensive agreement ought to entail, such as quid pro quo arrangements, demilitarization restrictions, implementation timeline, etc.

    Why should we propose something? For what? Since when do we need to propose something..? YOU are obviously unsatisfied (because you’re a revanchist).. so YOU must propose something.

    the extravagant military Victory Day parades in early May that is gushing with nostalgia during the era of Stalin

    No, that is gushing with nostalgia to the fact that we won despite the enormous cost. It is our duty to remember our fathers and grandfathers. Don’t act like you don’t know that. It has nothing to do with Stalin. The fact that there are old Soviet flags and symbols present there, is because the USSR won the war, not only Russia. It represents all other countries of the former USSR as well, such as: Kazakhstan, the Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia etc.

    How about October 4 (launch of Sputnik satellite in 1957), or April 12 (Yuri Gagarin’s spaceflight in 1961)? Or perhaps a date predating the Bolshevist era, like September 17 (birthdate of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, the theoretical founder of rocketry, in 1857)?

    Oh stop! You’re making me blush!

    as if though they didn’t deserve full recognition because they broke away from the USSR

    By “statelets” he obviously means that those countries are small. Why are you triggered by that? Are you going to try to police language now? Are you sure YOU’RE not the Stalinist here? And are you implying that someone did not recognize the Baltic statele.. I mean states as independent? Who!? Russia recognized them as independent.. so what are we talking about here..

    The best proof that Russia really doesn’t want the Baltic states even in the future, if it is true, is for it to leave Kaliningrad, which was never a part of Russia in its history prior to 1945. It is a remnant of the Stalinist legacy; Russia should finally move forward.

    I can say the same thing about NATO: the USSR and Warsaw Pact do not exist anymore, the best proof that the EU and NATO do not wish a conflict with Russia is to withdraw from our borders, and get out of the Ukraine, remove US bases from eastern Europe and perhaps even Germany, stop building the missile-defense shield in Europe. And I promise, the Russians will have a more positive view of NATO/EU, after a period of mental adjustment, premised on friendly relations..

    This isn’t about geography, but about historical, cultural, and institutional attitudes.

    Funny, and yet, in an earlier post you wrote this:

    No it is not, with the possible exception of the region in and close to St. Petersburg.

    You clearly speak of a region.. that is.. geography. So now it is suddenly about culture etc. And if we are to talk about Germany’s attitudes, then we will conclude that throughout history, it has been savage and warmongering, wants territory, wanted to exterminate populations of Europe and where workers have to drink beer in the morning otherwise they could not even work.

    You can claim what ever you want, but the reality is Russia was always sovereign and unique. Russia is Russia. And the fact that we are Orthodox Christian and not Protestant and Catholic, the east-west schism of the 11th century, also plays a role no doubt, but what ever. It is not really dogmatic to us. You can call us martians if you want to, it does not change historical facts. It is just your emotional outburst because Germany and Russia were always opponents. Maybe try to suppress your “drang nach osten” next time..

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
    @Wavelength

    A very emotional response, or shall i say outburst?


    You signed the surrender document...so YOU are the one that is in violation of the capitulation treaty.
     
    This assertion is just outrageous. You are absolutely HYSTERICAL – this is completely THEATRICAL. What do you mean by your repeated accusation YOU, given that I am an analytical – and detached – observer? For your information, I didn't sign a surrender document; in fact I wasn't even alive at the time. All the viewers of your response can see that for some reason you have become "triggered" and are now incapable of being level-headed.

    Which “principles” did the USSR break? Is that a UN article? Which one? Which international law did we break by being in Kaliningrad/Köningsberg?
     
    This was already addressed last year here on this site, when this topic arose, in a response to an essay by James Petras, so you will just have to go back to the archives for specific document references or links. Basically existing international conventions since the early 20th century refer to the INADMISSIBILITY of territorial occupation based on conquest through war. This was a key legal principle that took precluded a major incentive to engage in warfare for the sake of stealing land. Do you wish to assert that the USSR was still so backward back then that it never acknowledged or "signed onto" these basic principles, also adopted (i.e. they were already in place at the time) by the UN since then?

    "...not only Russia. It represents all other countries of the former USSR as well..."
     
    We'll all see how long it will take for Russia to figure out a specifically Russian holiday, based on positive achievements not related to warfare, which was strongly assisted by the USA and Britain through their aerial bombings and land conquests from the west and south. Do high-level Brits or Americans (not just ambassadors) ever get invited to these annual May 9th extravaganzas?

    By “statelets” he obviously means that those countries are small.
     
    Most European countries are small, so what is peculiar is that he reserved this terminology or attribution to these three Baltic republics. Go through the list to see all the other "statelets" smaller in site than Lithuania (#24 out of 50):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_area

    And I promise, the Russians will have a more positive view...
     
    Who are you to make such a nebulous "promise"? Your proposal for deescalation reduces to the known Israeli tactic: Do this and that first, which you are not obliged to do, and afterwards perhaps we might deign to consider doing what we are not permitted to do in the first place. You must be joking; nobody can take that seriously. This is very amateurish on your part. You're giving yourself away as a fanatic.

    With regard to St. Petersburg you said:

    You clearly speak of a region.
     
    Yes, because I wanted to include New Peterhof and the island of Kronshtadt, which are outside the city limits of St. Petersburg, but still in the immediate region. Since the aristocratic Russian history includes Catherine the Great (Екатерина Алексеевна - Yekaterina Alekseyevna), a German nymphomaniac (allegedly "into" or "onto" horse cock), born in Stettin, this heritage is clearly European, unlike Moscow or places in the Ukraine that lie outside the former Austrian Monarchy.
  • @Been_there_done_that
    @Anonymous

    Shill #675:


    "...if he sincerely believes his own arguments..."
     
    FUNNY. You're laying it on real heavy. Now how about trying to refute the arguments?

    "I know that the demand for shills sky-rocketed in the past few years..."
     
    Obviously you must know this because that's what you are, but you're not effective due to your method, which is too transparent. How much are they paying you for such a shoddy job?

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    You start the story in the middle, intentionally, I know. NATO was created as a counter measure the the USSR. The USSR does not exist anymore. And as you know, the USSR has allowed Germany to reunify and removed its bases from Germany. After that, NATO expanded all the way to Russia’s borders. So no, we will not withdraw anymore. You can forget it. Maybe after US leaves its bases in Europe.. Because the US having its bases in Europe is a sign of aggression towards Russia, they want to attack, they have their missiles etc etc.

    You mentioned that Crimea’s reunification with Russia is legitimate? OK, thank you! So when will European countries recognize it as such? Then we can talk about Köngingsberg/Kaliningrad… When will the European leaders recognize the anti-Russian coup in the Ukraine? Then we can talk.

    And please stop with your “Stalinist nostalgia” nonsense. That is something that you keep repeating, but is nowhere near the truth. Russia does not want the Baltic states, and you know that. Speaking of paranoid delusions, you are the one with a paranoid delusion, or you are a shill.

    The bottom line is: we won the war. So stop talking about “friendly relations” in eastern Europe, if you had your way, eastern Europeans would not exist anymore.. don’t forget that (I’m sure you remember that, but would like to forget).

    And when will the US remove its bases from Germany? Nah, your motives are transparent.

    BTW. Russia is partly in Europe, until the Urals, please learn geography. 🙂

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    @Wavelength


    The USSR does not exist anymore.
     
    At the time of its break-up the Soviet troops and their families should have withdrawn from the Kaliningrad region, because the occupation was not then – nor is it now – legitimate. It was simply based on anti-German revanchism, which regrettably continues to persist and is clearly evident in your own comment ("we won the war").

    Having won a war does not justify violating basic principles of international conventions that already existed before then. But instead, Yeltsin, the alcoholic, reportedly had grand delusions about turning this region into some profitable trade zone; when that didn't work out he became greedy and offered to "sell" the region to Germany for billions of dollars.

    NATO troops did not arrive in that part of Europe until much later, and you can thank Yeltsin for the major blunder for having provoked that unnecessary but inevitable situation. (I understand his poor decisions had caused numerous other adverse circumstances for Russia.) If Russia had left that outpost back then there would have been no requests by the countries there to join NATO and bring in military assistance. Your narrative has a major shortcoming because you have mixed up cause and effect.

    "So no, we will not withdraw anymore."
     
    This is simply a spiteful response, an emotional expression of resentment. The constant appeals to abide by international law that we routinely hear from Putin, Lavrov, and the Russian propaganda network with regard to other conflict zones are thus sheer hypocrisy, which erodes trust.

    "Then we can talk."
     
    Talk, talk, talk. Israelis have been doing this for decades with the Palestinians regarding their illegal occupation of territories. Why don't you be specific and constructively lay out what you envision a comprehensive agreement ought to entail, such as quid pro quo arrangements, demilitarization restrictions, implementation timeline, etc.

    "And please stop with your “Stalinist nostalgia” nonsense."
     
    I cited a few facts to justify this term: Putin's response last year in Kaliningrad to a question, in which he said he regrets the break-up of the USSR and would reverse it if he could, then the acclaim he received from the audience after he said this; the extravagant military Victory Day parades in early May that is gushing with nostalgia during the era of Stalin; the fact that Kalinin was a high-level Stalinist, yet the name Kaliningrad persists, whereas Leningrad and Stalingrad have been abandoned, along with making it taboo to publicly refer to the name Königsberg; those examples demonstrate a conspicuous pattern, so it is not nonsense at all.

    I think May 9 has outlived its usefulness. Maybe Russia could change its national holiday to reflect achievements other than winning a brutal war that entailed rape, pillage, mass murder, expulsions, and other aggressive behavior? A memorable event that occurred after Stalin had died wouldn't be a bad idea. How about October 4 (launch of Sputnik satellite in 1957), or April 12 (Yuri Gagarin's spaceflight in 1961)? Or perhaps a date predating the Bolshevist era, like September 17 (birthdate of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, the theoretical founder of rocketry, in 1857)?

    Russia does not want the Baltic states, and you know that.
     
    No, we don't "know" that at all. How could we even "know" that? You don't "know" it either because you can't predict the future. I mentioned the 2017 Zapad military exercise as evidence for skepticism. Maintaining the easy option of an invasion from Kaliningrad to connect with Belarus, which is the primary benefit of occupying the region, creates too much tension. Anybody looking at a map knows that. Yet even the author, Saker, whose assertion on this topic was the inspiration for my first post on this thread, has previously referred to the Baltic "statelets" more than once, as if though they didn't deserve full recognition because they broke away from the USSR.

    The best proof that Russia really doesn't want the Baltic states even in the future, if it is true, is for it to leave Kaliningrad, which was never a part of Russia in its history prior to 1945. It is a remnant of the Stalinist legacy; Russia should finally move forward.

    Russia is partly in Europe, until the Urals...
     
    This isn't about geography, but about historical, cultural, and institutional attitudes.

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