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    About a decade ago, I happened to be talking with an eminent academic scholar who had become known for his sharp criticism of Israeli policies in the Middle East and America's strong support for them. I mentioned that I myself had come to very similar conclusions some time before, and he asked when that had...
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    Razib Khan’s conversation with David Sloan Wilson hints at why Ron Unz’s cool, calm collection of information on “Oddities of the Jewish Religion” is necessary, welcome, long overdue, and one more effort at, not so much breaking the Jew taboo but rather, normalizing facts-and-logic based discussion of how one particular group that holds enormous influence over world events, functions.

    Khan remains in the camp of the pusillanimous, desperately eager to “move on:”

    5: 08 Khan: “MacDonald is going in a dark direction . . .”

    Wilson failed to affirm Khan’s “dark direction. ” “What Kevin said has stood the test of time . . .”
    and expanded:

    Wilson: “When does what Kevin says become problematic? There’s gotta be a way that we can study culture as corporate units.”

    Khan: “Sure, sure.
    Wilson: “Including acknowledging the mean things they do to each other.

    Khan: “. . . as a description it is what it is; I don’t have any, you know — People cite him occasionally on my weblog . . . about the strategies Jews are using to suborn uh western civilization, just all sorts of strange things. Derbyshire wrote kind of a negative review . . . and Kevin responded, ‘Look at what happens to gentile intellectuals who are defending Jewish interests.’

    “So Kevin . . . has basically come out as a white nationalist, but gentile . . . He’s taken his ideas and become maybe more of an applied scientist? I don’t know . . .

    “Obviously it’s outside of the norms of people I would interact with and so . . . I encounter him now and then . . . he definitely seems to have gone in a more obviously white nationalist direction. . . .

    “He seems a fine enough fellow in exchanges but he obviously has a strong perspective on the role of Jewish power. I think he would say it’s distorted western culture, allowed mass immigration, all sorts of issues . . . But like I said, that’s kind of a dark prescription from the perspective of the main stream, so why don’t we just move on to the Evolution Institute which is going to try to be more in the main stream . . .”

    Wilson refuses to let go, to the point of introducing the concept, parasitism:

    Wilson: “What’s parasitism but the exploitation by something small of something big? ”
    Khan: “He says Jews are parasites.”
    Wilson: “That’s been a mainstay of antisemitism, right?
    Khan: “Yeah.”
    Wilson: “Okay, but let me talk as an ecologist, ok? Parasitism is something small exploiting something big. Predation is something big exploiting something small, right?”
    Khan: “Ha ha yeah. ”
    Wilson: “. . . and of course there’s competition which can be engaged by both large and small, right? . . . Now if we expect these along with other interactions among human groups, can we expect Jewish people to be parasitic? Yes. Can we expect bigger groups to be predatory? Yes. So what makes this as benign as it can be is we gotta show the ____ here, the blame; nobody — it’s not as if everybody is behaving honorably except those Jews, right?”
    Khan: “Yeah . . .”
    Wilson: “Everybody’s behaving dishonorably, right? ”
    Khan: “Well, um, I mean, like I said I want to move to something a little more constructive. Kevin’s perspective, he’s a white gentile, he has his own ethnic and genetic viewpoint, that’s how he views it.”
    Wilson: “I don’t know. . . .”
    Khan: “He is cited. I don’t really let those comments through, to be honest . . .

    Wilson seems to endorse the notion of normalizing the frank assessment of various group’s survival strategies; Ron Unz contributes to that project; Razib Khan resists.

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    Cloak and Dagger cornered "Quigley was right," and inquired:
    "Russia may well be under Jewish/Israeli influence, but I question that for China. What is your evidence?"

    Hi C & D,

    As you know, international Jewish/Israeli movers & shakers prefer ongoing business negotiations with Chinese government remain (to a degree) strategically silent to America's vast majority, "general population."

    One example is the Goldman Sachs Group who are zealously eager to do investment in China, "untethered" to a Chinese partner.

    Doubtless, one can follow the daily Wall Street Journal, read-between-lines, and find evidence for "Jewish/Israeli influence" throughout the world!

    (Zigh) "Rocketman" Kim likely noticed that a mighty Western Trade Wind wants N. Korea to fly along with Jewish-Israeli kites,

    Having done business in China for almost 15 years, I can tell you that Jewish finance has been trying to gain a foothold in China unsuccessfully for a while now. Oh sure, you can see offices of their agents in Shanghai, Beijing, and of course, Hong Kong – but they have no meaningful hold on China’s economy that is comparable to Jewish bankers in the US and Europe – this is why China is so hated by the deep state. Chinese banking does not demonstrate deference to Jewish central banks and the government strongly oversees all financial activity in the nation. With a few exceptions, all banks are state owned.

    Unlike here, the jews can’t mingle unnoticed within the Chinese populace, and Mandarin is a very difficult language to learn to speak – I know, I have been trying for a very long time and a 外国人 stands out like a sore thumb.

    Chuck, I am not denying the attempts by jewish forces to “influence” China, but thus far, they have made no inroads there, and are very unlikely to in the future. This is why China is being demonized to set the stage for a future war with those who refuse to kneel before ZOG.

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    Hi Cloak And Dagger,

    As you can expect, your comments here at the U.R. reflect education, knowledge.

    Now that you shared doing 15-years of business in China and having tried learning Mandarin, naturally, I now pay closer attention.

    Fyi, back in 1985 while an undergrad at the Jesuit University of Scranton, I took an elective 3-credit course in an introduction to Chinese language, taught by Peace Corp veteran, Professor Ann Hill. Full disclosure,
    at course end, I got a "B" and could only mutter tonal "me, mow, moo," etecetera.

    At any rate, & as you can expect, your Cloak And Dagger screen-name signals proceed with respectful caution.

    As you also know, I only suggested there is EVIDENCE for Zionist Jew (Goldman Sachs Group) penetration of the Chinese economy, which no matter how one cuts-the-territorial-beef, is globalized.

    You need no reminder how President Xi Xinping attended this past January's Davos assembly? ZUS President Trump's buddy Anthony Scaramucci attended Davis and informed all that Trump is "the globalists best last hope."

    Uh -- Does that calculate into proof that "Jewish forces" have made inroads" into China, Cloak And Dagger? Nope.

    But the impulse for "One World" global government simultaneously takes low, high & secret roads.

    No, no, no
    , @Art

    Chuck, I am not denying the attempts by jewish forces to “influence” China, but thus far, they have made no inroads there, and are very unlikely to in the future. This is why China is being demonized to set the stage for a future war with those who refuse to kneel before ZOG.
     
    C&D,

    Kudos to China for keeping out the Jews. But that does not make them good guys.

    The Jews and the Chinese share many bad traits. They both love money, the both cut corners to make money, the both steal intellectual property, they both have a giant chip on their shoulders with respect to the rest of humanity, and both are hyper tribal.

    The Germans and the Japanese were also hyper tribal - they got there butts handed to them. I fear that the Jews and the Chinese do not have the good sense to avoid the same fate.

    Think Peace --- Do No harm --- Art
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  • @James N. Kennett

    No one cares about Palestine, in rl or the movies, except some Arab elites that like to use them as pawns in geopolitics and neo-Nazis who like to use them as a cudgel to beat up on the Jews.
     
    Come to that, who cares about the Armenians, or the fact that Turkey still denies the Armenian genocide? Who cares about the Hutus and the Tutsis, who have been massacring each other for generations?

    The only reason we see so many films about the Holocaust and its survivors is that diaspora Jews are terrified that, without these constant reminders, we will turn into Nazis.

    The only reason we see so many films about the Holocaust and its survivors is that diaspora Jews are terrified that, without these constant reminders, we will turn into Nazis.

    What would be the characteristics of those Nazis that we would turn into?

    To borrow a hoof-pounding demand from Incitatus, be specific.

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  • @utu
    P.O. Box 1142, Fort Hunt, Virginia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._O._Box_1142

    Thank you.

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  • Introduction Journalists, academics, pundits and experts have ignored the complexity of President Trump’s impact on the state of the US Empire. To properly assess the geopolitical configuration of power, we will consider the military, economic, political and diplomatic advances and setbacks of the Trump regime in Latin America, the European Union and Asia (including the...
  • @James Brown
    @ jilles dykstra

    Amazing. "Milton" says that 2+2=4 but you disagree.

    Those who know that 2+2=4 , also know that Trump is a Neocon puppet.

    In fact , they know that all American presidents are puppet of that small country that Trump has just decided to give millions in foreign aid.

    In fact , they know that all American presidents are puppet of that small country that Trump has just decided to give millions in foreign aid.

    In fact , they know that all American presidents are puppet of that small country that Trump Obama has just decided to give millions billions in foreign aid.

    fify

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-israel-statement/u-s-israel-sign-38-billion-military-aid-package-idUSKCN11K2CI

    U.S., Israel sign $38 billion military aid package
    Matt Spetalnick SEPTEMBER 14, 2016 / 1:35 PM / 2 YEARS AGO

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States will give Israel $38 billion in military assistance over the next decade, the largest such aid package in U.S. history, under a landmark agreement signed on Wednesday.”

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  • @Wally
    For starters a few quick revealing tidbits about the farce that was Nuremberg.

    - At Nuremberg it was accepted that Jews were mass murdered in steam chambers.

    - At Nuremberg it was accepted the Germans used atomic bombs on Jews.

    - The typical 'documents were English translations of Russian translations of Polish copies of an alleged German original which cannot be found.

    much, much more here:
    Nuremberg - Fair Trial or Show Trial ?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11053

    www.codoh.com

    Unz posted Freda Utley’s High Cost of Vengeance in Featured Books https://www.unz.com/book/freda_utley__the-high-cost-of-vengeance/

    Much of Chapter 7 is devoted to recounting the extensive use of torture to extract confessions. Utley writes:

    The names of the American investigators in these cases, Kirschbaum, Metzger, Enders (alias Andrews), Colombeck, and Egger, like those of Lieutenant Perl and Mr. Harry Thon, will be remembered in Germany as long, and with as much loathing, as the names of Himmler, Bormann and other Nazi bullies and criminals are remembered in America.

    I’ve just ordered a book about the Ritchie Boys — young German Jews who migrated to USA in the early- to mid-1930s, enlisted in US military and were trained at Ft. Ritchie, MD, in espionage, subversion, and techniques of interrogating prisoners. About 2500 of them were deployed throughout the European battlefields, including the concentrations camps. In Christian Bauer’s DVD, The Ritchie Boys, one of the Ritchie Boys describes how he was dispatched to Nordhausen to ensure that materiel that had been promised to Stalin, was secure.

    Recall that USAF bombed Nordhausen then returned and strafed survivors, killing several hundred. When US military entered the camp and came upon the corpses, they lined them up, filmed the scene, blamed Germans for the atrocity, and used the photos in Nuremberg prosecutions.

    They played a significant role in acquiring the tons of German documents that William Shirer mentions and relies upon to compose “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.” They also acted as interrogators at the Nuremberg trials. I’m eager to cross – reference the names listed above with the names of Ritchie boys.

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    P.O. Box 1142, Fort Hunt, Virginia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._O._Box_1142
    , @Wally
    SC:
    Forget Zionist William Shirer, he has been easily exposed & discredited as a liar & a fraud, see these: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=william+shirer

    You really should see these videos They really expose the contrived staging & manufactured nature of the Potemkin Village, aka: the 'holocaust'.

    Nazi Shrunken Heads / A 24-minute free video about the lies
    By DenierBud : https://codoh.com/library/document/1528/?lang=en
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/1002.jpg
    Episodes:
    Nuremberg
    Congressman Tom Lantos
    Senator Chris Dodd
    Group Evolutionary Strategy
    Idi Amin

    Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil
    By DenierBud : https://codoh.com/library/document/1529/?lang=en
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/1003.gif
    Episodes:
    Human Skin Lampshade
    The Director
    Shrunken Heads
    Tattooed Skin Taken From Bodies
    Ilse Koch Anachronistic Problem
    Moral High Ground or Ethno-Genetic Strategy?
    A Psyche Warfare Operation Makes History
    Spotting The Chief of Psyche Warfare In The Propaganda Movie
    Why America Believes In The Holocaust
    Understanding The Piles Of Bodies
    USA, Britain Caused Way More Starvation Deaths Than Nazis
    Eisenhower's Holocaust Hoax Strategy

    For Eisenhower, The Holocaust Myth Was An Incoming Popularity Coup, And The "Military Industrial Complex" Speech Was An Outgoing Popularity Coup
    People's Thinking Wants To Evolve Beyond Good Guys Fighting Bad Guys, But The Holocaust Myth Gets In The Way
    Using Dead Bodies To Frame The Nazis And Justify World War II
    Psyche Warfare's Flawed Strategy: Using The Pfaffenberger Affidavit
    Objects Planted By Psyche Warfare End Up As Nuremberg Trial Evidence
    The Same Americans Who Helped Create The Holocaust Myth, Then Went On To Create The Cold War
    Proof That Psyche Warfare Worked With The New York Times To Promote The Holocaust Myth
    Buchenwald Executions
    A Scriptwriter's Great Idea: Baking Ovens To Cremation Ovens
    Militarism Needs The Holocaust Myth

    One Third of the Holocaust
    By DenierBud
    many episodes: https://codoh.com/library/document/534/?lang=en
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/1001.gif

    Thanks.
    www.codoh.com

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  • @iffen
    and brain power, was removed from Germany for the benefit of Allies.


    How many of these "brains" chose to return to Germany from the U. S.? Don't count the Nazis that have fled to avoid prosecution.

    not worth responding to.

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  • @Rurik

    how to MAGA short of more war?
     
    whereas much of what you say is true of many of the Americans following the war, for most of Americans, whatever prosperity they have, they've had to work their arses off for it, just like other first world nations.

    The meme that every American is somehow privileged and prosperous, due to having stolen the technology and labor of Negros, or now it seems in this case -Germans, is a blood libel.

    I'm a working class bloke, and I simply don't see or know of any of these types of whom you speak.

    That they're there, at the top echelons of the 1%, is no doubt true (or more to the point, used to be), but for the vast majority of Americans, they've had to bust a hump, at an hourly paying, payroll-taxed drudgery, to make ends meet.

    Telling them their ten year old beater is only theirs because they stole Nazi technology, isn't a really good sell.

    The American people must internalize,
     
    do you know that for my entire life, as a White, American, straight, working class male, how many times I've been harangued and barraged with hysterical shrieks that 'I didn't build that", and that all my prosperity (none for most of my life) is all due to the racism and slavery that my ancestors (who never owned any slaves) stole from the labor and genius of the Black race.

    You must feel guilty!!!

    You must genuflect to blacks and browns and reds and yellows for all of your eternal, evil racist crimes and privilege!!!

    this is the posture I've been scolded I should assume, for all I've done to the blacks

    http://www.fisheaters.com/forumpix/imsorry6.jpg

    and now it seems I'm supposed to do it for the Germans too?

    For crimes that are decades old even before I was born?

    No matter, get on your knees and beg forgiveness!!

    Bull shit.

    The best way that we Deplorables would like to MAGA, is to end the wars right now. And bring the troops home, and stop spending trillions on a MIC that we neither want nor need, but that exists to punish Israel's myriad and well-earned enemies all over the planet.

    If we'd mind our own business and trade with all nations, treating them all with dignity and fairness, we'd have prosperity to go around.

    But we don't. Instead our government loots the efforts of the working and middle class and lavishes lucre on our worst enemy; Israel.

    So don't expect too many American working or middle class to bow down in abased guilt for 'our' crimes and our prosperity. We've basically heard that guilt-bullshit mantra our entire lives.

    I hear you, Rurik.

    My grandfathers and my uncles dug ditches (Just heard that some protesters blocked a freeway in Chicago: my grandfather helped build them).
    When my Dad came back from the war, disabled, he and his brothers worked in the steel mills, until they went bust. Then things got dicey for a while.

    I’ve watched a few of C Span’s Cities tour stops and noticed how many of the cities owed their prosperity to the airplane factory, or the steel factory, or the textiles plant that was built to support the war effort, and that continued in business after the war because USA was the only industrialized nation still functioning.

    As noted above, the steel mills failed, beginning in the mid- to late 1960s; other manufacturing failed or left other towns as well.

    In an intriguing talk a few months ago, David Goldman (Spengler, on AsiaTimes online) said, large manufacturing is NOT coming back to USA. No investors will take that risk, it’s too expensive, other developing economies can do it cheaper. It sounded pretty persuasive.

    So where are “the vast majority of Americans, [who have] to bust a hump, at an hourly paying, payroll-taxed drudgery, to make ends meet.” going to find those bust-a-hump jobs? In the town where I grew up, the only thing happening is restaurants: waitresses save up their tips from working at Red Lobster to treat the family to dinner at Olive Garden.

    Our kids all made it through college courtesy of white-collar hump-busting (don’t kid yourself: office/managerial/administrative work can be just as soul-wrenching as ditch-digging), and have been gainfully employed for half-a-life cycle, but the skills they spent years in college learning and more years in jobs perfecting, are now easily replaced by H1-b visa holders who are much younger and work for far less, while our kids have mortgages and kids of their own. I don’t know if our kids pull their hair out about their futures as much as I do, but it’s a real worry & I’m running out of hair.

    I think Trump does half of what he does–even the wars, that keep defense contractors buying steel and meeting payrolls — out of genuine concern to keep American workers working at useful jobs. But I honestly do. not. know where and how enough jobs can be created and sustained for a lifetime, that will provide a sustained income to support a family “in the style to which —”

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  • @ChuckOrloski
    SolontoCroesus pondered, wrote: "A tragedy that all Americans do not read Unz every day with their morning coffee."

    Hi S2C,

    Prologue, fyi, Ireland remained neutral duing cash-cow Cold War decades, & to date is not a NATO country.

    Regarding your words above, & as my hometown Scranton is notably pro-Irish, I am wondering if local citizens know that the Israeli Defense Minister, Avigdor Lieberman, is on OFFENSE because of Ireland's (leftist) political will to boycott goods produced in the o.ccupied West Bank?

    Ah shucks -- I wonder if Pennsylvania's US Senator Bobby Casey (D) and Scranton's influential "Sons of Saint Patrick" know that Zionist Jews want to dictate Ireland's import-commerce choices?

    At any rate, refer to Lieberman's "Erin go claw" anti-diplomacy, below?

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5308756,00.html

    Thanks, S2C.

    Don’t DO that, geokat62, I have a weak heart.
    Pelosi being Pelosi. Pathetic.


    Lieberman’s growing a tad rotund. How would he know which cheek is which?

    Bob Casey was escorted to Israel even before the Santorum – Casey contest got off the ground. Upon his return, his Israeli handlers pressed the Kosher stamp of approval on his forehead. He hasn’t deviated from script from that day.

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    Don’t DO that, geokat62, I have a weak heart.
     
    LOL. It was meant to strike a little fear into the hearts of our interlocutors, S2C.

    Having said that, this day will come as sure as the sun rises in the east.

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  • @iffen
    But, but what about the Marshall Plan?

    Great Britain received the largest amount of Marshall Plan aid, at $3297 million, more than twice as much as W. Germany’s $1448 million.

    France was second to Britain, at $2296 million.

    Italy & Trieste received approx. $1200 million, as did Netherlands.

    The eleven remaining recipients of Marshall Plan aid received grants ranging from $43 million to $777 million.

    Americans tend to exaggerate their generosity to West Germany, especially hypocritical since so much (criminal) damage was inflicted on Germany, and so much of Germany’s wealth, in patents, technology, and brain power, was removed from Germany for the benefit of Allies.

    Nor was Marshall Plan heroically munificent to other Allies, such as France and Italy, where Allied forces inflicted far more death and destruction than did the German invasion and occupation.

    One more very important reason that the dogmatized holocaust narrative is a pernicious deception is that the American people have unrealistic knowledge about how they achieved what they have, and their expectations that it will continue. The Hollywood version of the world wars must be debunked in order for Americans to rationally plot their economic and political future.

    The American people must internalize, must take on board in a serious way honest-to-reality information such as Ron Unz presented here: USA post-war prosperity was achieved by means of an unnecessary and in many ways unjust and immoral war. Put another way, WWII was necessary for the purpose of creating a generation-and-a-half of American prosperity.

    Now that USA has spent that war loot, but with the sense that the prosperity it brought was normative, how are US leaders to re-create that plateau of wealth, how to MAGA short of more war?

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    how to MAGA short of more war?
     
    whereas much of what you say is true of many of the Americans following the war, for most of Americans, whatever prosperity they have, they've had to work their arses off for it, just like other first world nations.

    The meme that every American is somehow privileged and prosperous, due to having stolen the technology and labor of Negros, or now it seems in this case -Germans, is a blood libel.

    I'm a working class bloke, and I simply don't see or know of any of these types of whom you speak.

    That they're there, at the top echelons of the 1%, is no doubt true (or more to the point, used to be), but for the vast majority of Americans, they've had to bust a hump, at an hourly paying, payroll-taxed drudgery, to make ends meet.

    Telling them their ten year old beater is only theirs because they stole Nazi technology, isn't a really good sell.

    The American people must internalize,
     
    do you know that for my entire life, as a White, American, straight, working class male, how many times I've been harangued and barraged with hysterical shrieks that 'I didn't build that", and that all my prosperity (none for most of my life) is all due to the racism and slavery that my ancestors (who never owned any slaves) stole from the labor and genius of the Black race.

    You must feel guilty!!!

    You must genuflect to blacks and browns and reds and yellows for all of your eternal, evil racist crimes and privilege!!!

    this is the posture I've been scolded I should assume, for all I've done to the blacks

    http://www.fisheaters.com/forumpix/imsorry6.jpg

    and now it seems I'm supposed to do it for the Germans too?

    For crimes that are decades old even before I was born?

    No matter, get on your knees and beg forgiveness!!

    Bull shit.

    The best way that we Deplorables would like to MAGA, is to end the wars right now. And bring the troops home, and stop spending trillions on a MIC that we neither want nor need, but that exists to punish Israel's myriad and well-earned enemies all over the planet.

    If we'd mind our own business and trade with all nations, treating them all with dignity and fairness, we'd have prosperity to go around.

    But we don't. Instead our government loots the efforts of the working and middle class and lavishes lucre on our worst enemy; Israel.

    So don't expect too many American working or middle class to bow down in abased guilt for 'our' crimes and our prosperity. We've basically heard that guilt-bullshit mantra our entire lives.
    , @iffen
    and brain power, was removed from Germany for the benefit of Allies.


    How many of these "brains" chose to return to Germany from the U. S.? Don't count the Nazis that have fled to avoid prosecution.

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  • @Rurik

    I’m interested in the main characters,
     
    the reason the history of this conflict is so important is because it's the same Zio-banksters and perfidious Albions who're fomenting the wars and horrors in this century, just as they did in the last.

    If more people simply understood that both world wars were fratricidal slaughters contrived to wipe out the flower of Europa, in order to crush Western civilization (Christendom) under a Jewish supremacist zio-boot, then it would be more complicated for ((them)) to foment their wars in this century too.

    Everybody by now should be looking at all Jewish supremacists, who're demanding wars with Russia and wars with Iran and wars with anyone and everyone, so long as the wars will slaughter off Gentiles right and left...

    ..with a very jaundiced eye.

    when Max Boot froths his rage at Trump for not having bombed Russia by now, he should hear the barely audible hiss of 'Jew' from back in the producers room.

    I hate the idea of the word 'Jew', being used like the word 'nigger' is used to denote the hyper-aggressive criminality of a certain segment of the population.

    But perhaps we're being pushed into a defensive, existentially critical period when we're all going to have to start wondering if these Jews, who're always so chicken hawkish for war, war, WAR!!

    are demanding war out of a deep-seated pathology in the Jewish narrative that demands all non-Jews suffer and die.

    When someone demands open borders, we need to ask, are you Jewish?

    When they demand war and hostility towards Russia, (and/or Iran, elsewhere) perhaps it's time to ask, 'are you a Jew?'

    When they say Trump is a white supremacist, perhaps it's time we start asking, 'are you a Jewish supremacist?'

    Until maybe it will become common knowledge that it is 'the Jews' who are fomenting all these wars.

    Just as it's the Jews who're demanding Europe and N. America open their gates to armies of hostile invaders.

    Just as it's 'the Jews' who're demanding endless billions for Israel and support for genocide in the Holy land.

    Sure, there are more Christian Zionists than there are Zionist Jews, but the Christians are dumb as rocks, so that rules out sinister treachery.

    But if the day comes, when Jews, speaking as Jewish supremacists, are wary of coming out as a Jew, and a war pig, then perhaps they'll think twice about screeching for war, war, WAR!!

    when everyone knows they're shamelessly shilling for Gentiles to slaughter each other so that Jews can profit on the bloodbath and cum in their pants over the deaths of Gentiles.

    [T]he reason the history of this conflict is so important is because it’s the same Zio-banksters and perfidious Albions who’re fomenting the wars and horrors in this century, just as they did in the last.

    Yes.

    when everyone knows they’re shamelessly shilling for Gentiles to slaughter each other so that Jews can profit on the bloodbath and cum in their pants over the deaths of Gentiles.

    There does seem to be some perverted sexual pleasure derived from killing masses of other people / other people’s children.

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    perverted sexual pleasure derived from killing masses of other people / other people’s children.
     
    check out the look on this Zio-apparatchik's face

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeH6UTeLoZQ

    this is the guy who ran cover for the cackling war hag at the top level of the FBI

    the lascivious narcissism drips from his unctuous mug like the ooze from a syphilitic lesion

    when people lament Trump's presidency, (as bad as it often seems) a peer into the type of person that rises to the top in Democrat power structures, is terrifyingly telling.

    And yes, there is a sexual element to their cruelties. The whole Old Testament is one string of lewd moral depravities after another. And that's where the Jewish supremacists get their (lack of) morals from.
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  • @utu

    slamming German Rudolf is way beyond the mark.
     
    Making an argument is slamming? Pointing to the weakness of Rudolf's argument is slamming? Go to my comments and do search for Rudolf and you will find old discussion I had with Wally about the chemistry of gas chambers.

    The rest of your comment about the martyrdom of Rudolf and that I am anonymous and that you have some undesirable family members is irrelevant.

    Actually, utu, your parsing of Rudolf’s chemistry is not that interesting. Frankly, I neither understand nor am concerned with the chemistry, Auschwitz, 6 million vs 4.56294 1/3 Jews dead — that is irrelevant to me.

    I’m interested in who started the conflict, how, and why. To my way of thinking, that information casts a radically different light on the entire story. Keeping that story deeply under wraps is one reason Jewish PTB as well as their Allies protect issues like 6 million and Auschwitz: it keeps serious historical scholarship far from the real scene of the crime. If you’ll pardon the obscene pun, the crematoria serves as a smokescreen concealing the real crime and criminals.

    I’m interested in the main characters, not the supernumeraries and stage hands.

    Louis Brandeis, Rabbi Stephen Wise, Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Felix Frankfurter, Louis Untermeyer, David Ben Gurion, Winston Churchill, FDR, Bernard Baruch — these are (among) the men who should have had their testicles — if they had any — crushed. It was THEY who planned, set in motion, financed, armed and oversaw the killing of hundreds of thousands of undesirable — “Degenerated” Jews, after first securing the lives and fortunes of the desirable Jews — German Jews and wealthy Hungarian and Greek Jews.

    Hitler and Stalin were their Orca; Hitler suffered the fate of Orca; Stalin outsmarted his handlers.

    The destruction of Germany was pre-ordained, in line with the Talmudic ideology as proclaimed by Michael Ledeen and Rabbi David Bar-Hayim:

    In war, we kill all the best gentiles.
    (Hence, Germans. Thus, Iranians. They should be flattered.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=262&v=6cePM18Yvp8

    Louis Brandeis set in motion the destruction of Polish Jewry and the destruction of German gentiles as early as Feb. 14, 1933. Hitler had not killed a single Jewish person in Feb. 1933, but his fate, and that of Germany, was sealed by the directives of the leader of world zionism on Valentines Day 1933.

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    Actually, utu, your parsing of Rudolf’s chemistry is not that interesting. Frankly, I neither understand nor am concerned with the chemistry, Auschwitz,
     
    Stay away from arguments that you "neither understand nor [are] concerned with." Thank you.
    , @Rurik

    I’m interested in the main characters,
     
    the reason the history of this conflict is so important is because it's the same Zio-banksters and perfidious Albions who're fomenting the wars and horrors in this century, just as they did in the last.

    If more people simply understood that both world wars were fratricidal slaughters contrived to wipe out the flower of Europa, in order to crush Western civilization (Christendom) under a Jewish supremacist zio-boot, then it would be more complicated for ((them)) to foment their wars in this century too.

    Everybody by now should be looking at all Jewish supremacists, who're demanding wars with Russia and wars with Iran and wars with anyone and everyone, so long as the wars will slaughter off Gentiles right and left...

    ..with a very jaundiced eye.

    when Max Boot froths his rage at Trump for not having bombed Russia by now, he should hear the barely audible hiss of 'Jew' from back in the producers room.

    I hate the idea of the word 'Jew', being used like the word 'nigger' is used to denote the hyper-aggressive criminality of a certain segment of the population.

    But perhaps we're being pushed into a defensive, existentially critical period when we're all going to have to start wondering if these Jews, who're always so chicken hawkish for war, war, WAR!!

    are demanding war out of a deep-seated pathology in the Jewish narrative that demands all non-Jews suffer and die.

    When someone demands open borders, we need to ask, are you Jewish?

    When they demand war and hostility towards Russia, (and/or Iran, elsewhere) perhaps it's time to ask, 'are you a Jew?'

    When they say Trump is a white supremacist, perhaps it's time we start asking, 'are you a Jewish supremacist?'

    Until maybe it will become common knowledge that it is 'the Jews' who are fomenting all these wars.

    Just as it's the Jews who're demanding Europe and N. America open their gates to armies of hostile invaders.

    Just as it's 'the Jews' who're demanding endless billions for Israel and support for genocide in the Holy land.

    Sure, there are more Christian Zionists than there are Zionist Jews, but the Christians are dumb as rocks, so that rules out sinister treachery.

    But if the day comes, when Jews, speaking as Jewish supremacists, are wary of coming out as a Jew, and a war pig, then perhaps they'll think twice about screeching for war, war, WAR!!

    when everyone knows they're shamelessly shilling for Gentiles to slaughter each other so that Jews can profit on the bloodbath and cum in their pants over the deaths of Gentiles.
    , @James Brown
    "Frankly, I neither understand nor am concerned with the chemistry, Auschwitz, 6 million vs 4.56294 1/3 Jews dead — that is irrelevant to me."

    And you're right which of course doesn't mean that "Auschwitz, 6 million vs 4.56294 1/3 Jews dead " is irrelevant, but all reasonable creature would agree that it's irrelevant when the topic is for example JFK's Assassination or how many French People were killed after "Liberation" by elements of Resistance....Everyone would agree with that except the Wallys on this thread.

    "I’m interested in who started the conflict, how, and why. To my way of thinking, that information casts a radically different light on the entire story."

    Again, everyone would agree with that except he Wallys on this thread...This is the reason why they ALWAYS bring the 6M ...It's a distraction and the objective is to impede people to discuss for example
    "who started the conflict, how, and why ".

    Of course it is possible the Wallys on this thread really believe that 6M is the most important subject, the most important topic about the II WW, the biggest lie ever etc...And it's their mission to tell people about it.

    But in our own lifetime , a big lie was responsible for a genocide. 1 Million Iraqis were killed because of a lie.

    Wouldn't be more reasonable for the Wallys on this thread to keep repeating this and maybe this way they can convince more people to be against the next war to destroy Iran ?

    , @utu

    It was THEY who planned, set in motion, financed, armed and oversaw the killing of hundreds of thousands of undesirable — “Degenerated” Jews, after first securing the lives and fortunes of the desirable Jews — German Jews and wealthy Hungarian and Greek Jews.
     
    I have overlooked that. So you are not a Holocaust denier. You believe that hundreds of thousands Jews were intentionally killed. Did you consult it with Wally?
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  • @Them Guys
    Yet Only Germans and Nazi/SS men got Hung right.

    Based on what you say, then we can also figure this is A-Ok correct? Say you have a young daughter, your neighbor guy across street, decides to Rape her...You find out he did it...So its Now Okay when you go Rape His daughter.....That somehow just don't sound, Kosher eh?


    PS incase it matters who bombed cities first? England did it first to Germany even after Repeated calls by Hitler for Peace and No War.

    Hitherto unsung Jewish heroes:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/26/second.world.war

    First published on Fri 25 Jul 2008

    REVENGE

    After more than six decades, with libraries full of books, archives packed with testimony and warehouses crammed with documents, you might think we know all there is to know about the Holocaust. And it’s true that, as that event slips from memory into history and the remaining survivors enter their last years, the flow of new revelations about the Nazi campaign to eradicate the Jews has slowed to a trickle. . . .

    The key facts are in place, as thoroughly documented as any event in human history: the Nazis wanted to rid the world of Jews and, through both mass shootings and gas chambers, they succeeded in murdering six million of them, including more than a million children.
    And yet there is at least one aspect of the Holocaust that has barely registered on the world’s consciousness, a remarkable fact – and, causally connected to it, an extraordinary story. This fact is shocking, even if it is hardly new, and the story it triggered is stunning: a tale of heroism and violence, a burning quest for justice and revenge that reads more like ancient legend than contemporary history.

    First the fact. The dirty little secret of the Holocaust, which many would regard as the greatest crime in human history, is that no one was punished for it.

    . . .
    Why were more of the guilty not punished? “Because it would have been a never-ending task,” says David Cesarani, research professor at Royal Holloway, University of London, and a leading authority on the Holocaust. . . .

    Pursuing all those responsible for the slaughter of the Jews would have meant trying thousands upon thousands of people – and it would have ended in the jailing of almost the entire adult male population of Germany. . . .

    Watching this was a motley group of survivors of the ghettos and the camps, Jews who had somehow cheated death. They were led by a handful of young warriors who . . . at war’s end, . . . saw that the guilty were about to walk free. The world wanted to move on; the Americans, especially, were anxious to absorb western Germany into a new alliance against the Soviet bloc. But these fighters were not ready; before they could be at peace, they would first have to avenge the blood of their fellow Jews.
    Some accounts suggest the group that would come to be known as the Nokmim, Hebrew for avengers, was born in the spring of 1945 in Bucharest. A Passover gathering of survivors was addressed by Abba Kovner, of the Jewish uprising in the Vilna ghetto, . . .He spoke passionately, invoking Psalm 94, in which God promises that he shall deal with the enemies of the people of Israel: “He will repay them for their iniquity and wipe them out for their wickedness.” This, Kovner suggested, was the fate that should be meted out to the Germans. And if the courts of international justice would not do it, then the Jews should do it themselves. . . .

    . . .
    Calmly, what Harmatz calls the Vengeance group set about implementing death sentences they themselves had passed. Perhaps posing as allied military police serving the postwar occupation authorities, they would identify a Nazi who had melted back into civilian life, stage an arrest and spirit him away. Some of these ex-SS men would be strangled, others hanged – all the better for passing off the death as a suicide. Hangings might take place in a garage, with the subject forced to stand on a car roof while his neck was placed in a noose attached to an overhead beam: an Avenger would drive the car away and the man would be left swinging.
    Elkins describes former high-level Nazis found dead in roadside ditches, apparently cut down by a hit-and-run driver. Others met their end in car accidents caused by mysterious mechanical failures. One senior Gestapo man was waiting in a hospital bed for a minor operation when somehow kerosene got into his bloodstream. Estimates vary as to how many Nazis died in what Elkins calls this “first hunting season”, and the Avengers were understandably coy about naming specific names, but it seems as if dozens of Nazis were killed by Jewish vigilantes.
    Not all of these assassins were Holocaust survivors. Cesarani believes that some of the most accomplished were members of the Jewish Brigade, the section of the British army comprised of Jewish volunteers from what was then Palestine, as well as the UK, South Africa and the rest of the empire. With access to military intelligence and transport, and with the right to travel freely across postwar Europe, “they were extremely efficient in tracking people down and conducting extrajudicial executions,” he says. . . .

    Kovner and the hardcore of the Vengeance group planned to inflict on Germany not the targeted killing of guilty men, but the same fate the Nazis had inflicted on the Jews: indiscriminate killing on a massive scale.
    Their chosen method was the poisoning of the water supply of five German cities. Cohen says the targets were Munich, Berlin, Weimar, Nuremberg and Hamburg, and before long the Avengers had placed workers inside the cities’ water filtration plants. Harmatz recalls days and nights studying blueprints of waterworks, working out how to avoid shutting off the supply to American residential areas, ensuring only Germans were struck. “Everything was in place, waiting for permission to proceed,” he writes.
    Kovner sought moral backing for his project, travelling to Palestine to consult the leaders of the Jewish state-in-waiting. He met Chaim Weizmann, who would become Israel’s first president and who had begun his career (at Manchester University) as a research chemist. Once Weizmann heard from Kovner the horrors of the Holocaust, he could mount no resistance: he gave his blessing to the Avengers, even offering them help in acquiring the poison. . . .

    One former comrade, Gabik Sedlis, told Cohen that the leader kept one eye on his place in history, hoping to be ranked alongside the ancient defenders of the Jewish people. “Two thousand years from now, he wanted people to talk about Judah Maccabee and Abba Kovner.”
    That goal has not yet been realised. But it might be, if at least the work of the Nokmim gets what those men and women wanted for themselves and their fellow Jews – if, in other words, future generations do their story justice.

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    Wow! While reading that typical jewy jew victim/avenger crap, about 3 gallons of 100% Pure Maple Syrup dripped from my Laptop Screen......What a jewey mess.


    I also thought I heard faint distant 1940 campers whines and moans, but alas, all the sounds were my Neighbor stepped on his house cats tail.


    Thanks for this info as I never yet seen of it.
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  • @Wally
    said:
    "Wally’s heart is in the right place, and he makes cogent and salient points, but some feel he’s just a bit too monomaniacal and worse, imperious. "

    Oh please, spare us your naive BS.

    And who are these "some"? LOL Those whose interests benefit from the '6,000,000 swindle', that's who.

    I only respond to what is in the article or what is posted.

    And of course you ignore the dodging and language of distraction thrown at me. In fact, you fall for it.

    www.codoh.com

    I only respond to what is in the article or what is posted.

    insofar as this is true, I support what you do wholeheartedly.

    Insofar as it’s not true, I suspect that you do the cause of Holocaust revisionism harm.

    If you’ve not ever spammed a thread that isn’t about the Holocaust narrative or Germany’s “guilt”, and so forth, then perhaps I owe you an apology.

    If, on the other hand, you have spammed threads that are decidedly not about the Holocaust, then all I’d suggest is that doing so is counter productive, and puts you (and by extension your ideas) in a negative light.

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  • @utu

    I have repeatedly challenged him, but he runs from debate. I welcome it, he’s afraid of it. We know why.
     
    Last time we had an exchange it was about German Rudolf claims and if I recall correctly it was you who ran away. I had to explain to you how Rudolf constructed his argument and what were the critical parameters on which it hinged and that he used wrong values for some parameters. That clearly demonstrated you are just a librarian who can search a catalog but who does not know what the books are about. Actually you could be easily replaced with a low IQ AI to do the job you are doing. I do not see any reason for having any discussions with you. Nobody does. Because you are incapable to conduct it.

    Holocaust revisionism by CODOH and its minions like you is the best thing that ever happened to the Holocaust Industry.

    I do not know what is Ron Unz's objective and how his Weltanschauung is evolving, because clearly he is evolving, but I can't see any advantage of having robots like you derailing and trolling every subject remotely related to the WWII with the CODOH inflexible and primitive dogma.

    utu, slamming German Rudolf is way beyond the mark. You’re an anonymous keyboard warrior, occasionally presenting as a know-it-all. Rudolf has walked the talk. Until you’re prepared to put your name, address, credentials and career on the line as Rudolf has, check your keyboard privilege.

    CODOH is multiple parts; as I understand it the Forum that Wally links to and is the PR flak for, is a moderated blog that discusses WWII and holocaust issues.

    Inconvenient History, https://codoh.com/library/categories/1322/ is also under the CODOH umbrella. Inconvenient History is a Journal that invites, reviews and publishes submissions on the same topics — historic revision of WWII, holocaust, etc. Its publisher, presumably Rudolf, has laid down strict guidelines for submissions and publication.

    Inconvenient History’s most recent offering is this video of a presentation by John Bellinger, ( introduced by David Irving) who researched The Murder of Himmler,

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5742/?lang=en

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1573&v=eqWMd1kU3Q0

    Rudolf has also created a publishing company that edits and publishes the writing of noteworthy historic revisionists such as Robert Faurisson, and Carlo Mattogno, as well as his own writing.

    In summ, utu, Push, Pull, or Get our of the way.
    Wally’s PR activities are unprofessional, but his purpose is clear and correct. My family includes an award-winning PR professional with degrees from prestigious universities and a high-paying job with a NY based agency. This person has used those skills to promote pink pussy hats and the many virtues of Hillary Clinton. I’d rather see Wally at our Thanksgiving table than our misguided, over-educated relative.

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    slamming German Rudolf is way beyond the mark.
     
    Making an argument is slamming? Pointing to the weakness of Rudolf's argument is slamming? Go to my comments and do search for Rudolf and you will find old discussion I had with Wally about the chemistry of gas chambers.

    The rest of your comment about the martyrdom of Rudolf and that I am anonymous and that you have some undesirable family members is irrelevant.
    , @Rurik

    I’d rather see Wally at our Thanksgiving table than our misguided, over-educated relative.
     
    or utu, for that matter ;)

    nicely put, S2C
    , @James Brown
    @ SolontoCroesus

    " You’re an anonymous keyboard warrior". Good point.

    How about the WALLYS on this thread ?

    Have you got their name, address, credentials ?

    "Wally’s PR activities are unprofessional, but his purpose is clear and correct."

    Clear and correct ?

    How do you know ?
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  • President Donald Trump makes a point of insisting that he has nothing against the Iranian people and is only interested in opposing what he regards as the dangerous activities of their government, but his own record in office belies that claim. It is clear that what he is trying to do is put pressure on...
  • @Art

    the balance scales read:

    70 million Iranian lives threatened vs. BITCH BITCH BITCH $.30 a gallon more for gas!!!
     
    S2C,

    You got me hands down on the virtue angle.

    Still I would like to know why we the American people (330,000,000) are paying a premium on a gallon of gas, strictly to benefit Israel and Jews.

    The American people are ignorant about the whys of Iran – but not so much about pocket book matters.

    Maybe the latter will trigger the former? Let us hope!

    Think Peace --- Art

    You are probably right, Art.

    Whatever it takes to wake up the American people —
    A tragedy that all Americans do not read Unz every day with their morning coffee.

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    SolontoCroesus pondered, wrote: "A tragedy that all Americans do not read Unz every day with their morning coffee."

    Hi S2C,

    Prologue, fyi, Ireland remained neutral duing cash-cow Cold War decades, & to date is not a NATO country.

    Regarding your words above, & as my hometown Scranton is notably pro-Irish, I am wondering if local citizens know that the Israeli Defense Minister, Avigdor Lieberman, is on OFFENSE because of Ireland's (leftist) political will to boycott goods produced in the o.ccupied West Bank?

    Ah shucks -- I wonder if Pennsylvania's US Senator Bobby Casey (D) and Scranton's influential "Sons of Saint Patrick" know that Zionist Jews want to dictate Ireland's import-commerce choices?

    At any rate, refer to Lieberman's "Erin go claw" anti-diplomacy, below?

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5308756,00.html

    Thanks, S2C.
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  • @Art
    What are we going to do to stop this madness?

    S2C,

    Bitch like hell about paying an extra dollar for gas because Trump is putting sanctions on Iran oil for the mendacious Jews.

    Trump gives us 50 cents in tax relief, but takes away a dollar in gas prices. Hmm?

    Think Peace --- Art

    that sucks.

    makes me ashamed.

    the balance scales read:

    70 million Iranian lives threatened vs. BITCH BITCH BITCH $.30 a gallon more for gas!!!

    fail

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    the balance scales read:

    70 million Iranian lives threatened vs. BITCH BITCH BITCH $.30 a gallon more for gas!!!
     
    S2C,

    You got me hands down on the virtue angle.

    Still I would like to know why we the American people (330,000,000) are paying a premium on a gallon of gas, strictly to benefit Israel and Jews.

    The American people are ignorant about the whys of Iran – but not so much about pocket book matters.

    Maybe the latter will trigger the former? Let us hope!

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • @peterAUS

    Nothing.
     
    Pretty much.

    The theocracy in Iran will have to fold and acquiesce to US Administration demands. All of them.

    The problem, of course, is that those demands aren't really clear and can, actually will, change, demanding more and more.

    There will come that point where the very regime's survival is threatened and it refuses further cooperation.
    Fine game.

    In any case (top) mullahs there are for some, say, challenging times.

    The best case scenario is some sort of international presence in Iran proving that the regime has nothing re subject of weapons of mass destruction. Say, like Japan or Germany. Makes you think, a?

    If mullahs are smart they'll go for it. They'll also tone down theocracy and more share power there which will benefit middle class. Definitely clamp down on corruption too.
    Did I say "challenging times"?

    Failing any of above, well, we'll see fireworks there.

    And...hehehe....re your succinct comment, the majority in USA public sphere will support the intervention.
    The usual suspects, we know why.
    People who voted for Trump too. For very simple reason, as you said:


    If doesn’t attack Iran, he probably won’t finish his mandate. He will be impeached.

    If he attacks, he will be a war president. A ” great president”. He will be re-elected. Like Bush Jr.

    American people love their “commander in chief”.
     

    What is death of,say, 50 000 Iranians vs MAGA, jobs and stuff like that?
    I am positive that it's quite acceptable price for Trump support base.
    Not that they'll ever admit that, of course. Well, except a couple of those with enough moral courage, that is.
    I am sure we'll see a lot of "virtue signalling"...hahaha.....a lot of "angry blogging", fierce forums posts.....the usual. The usual "online confessional" to help copying with real life.

    Bottom line, all roads lead to the "theocracy in Iran folding".

    this is OT, so Moral of the Story will come first:

    MotS: Sometimes, push-back comes from unlikely places, and can change the entire trajectory of the discourse.

    The Situation: received an email from “Independent Institute” advertising new book by Stephen J. Halbrook, Gun Control in Nazi-Occupied France: Tyranny and Resistance. [pace Wally]
    WorldCat has no log of such a book, but I did research Independent Institute — it’s an NRA operation –, and also listened to Halbrook speak on the topic, “Are There Lessons for Us Today from Nazi Gun Control?”

    As might be expected, to someone with my bent, Halbrook’s rhetorically piss-poor presentation was pocked with disinformation and outright falsehoods. It’s not worth the time to list and refute them, except to say that the concept of Jewish victimhood and of Nazi/Hitler irrational, visceral, full-spectrum hatred of Jews that motivated taking guns from Jews was the dominant theme, and the notion that “Nazis took guns away from Jews” to the grave detriment of Jewish wellbeing, was repeated time beyond counting.

    The interesting element came in the Q&A: @ 58 min, an audience member said,

    “My comment is a bit late. I would have wished that you had entitled your book, Gun Control in the Weimar Republic, because so many people that I have talked to and raised this issue with have sort of made it sound irrelevant, saying, Well, they were Nazis so what can you expect. But the fact that the gun control originated in the Weimar Republic, a democratic republic, is the real lesson to be learned from history. But, maybe you’ll write another book.”

    Halbrook responded:

    No, that’s a very good point and I’ve got three whole chapters on that. We’re only talking about the title and probably if I’d said, Gun Control in the Weimar Republic nobody would buy it. [audience laughter]

    Thus, catching the public eye, even inaccurately or dishonestly, for gain or for propaganda value, is acceptable, even laugh-worthy.

    What if the book had been accurately titled, “Gun Control in the Jewish-dominated Weimar Republic”? The phrasing is accurate: even Yad Vashem reports that Jews dominated Weimar. But ADL would have called that title “antisemitic” or hate-speech.

    If it is hate speech to accurately report on Jewish activity in Germany, why is it not hate speech to inaccurately or falsely impugn German activity in Germany?

    In a presentation for the Truth and Justice for Germans Society in Vancouver, author Frank Raymond argued precisely that point: the German people have been relentlessly shamed and made the object of hate. The German people have the same right to be protected against hate speech as any other group.

    NRA has deep pockets. They support and endorse Stephen Halbrook’s publications and presentations. There is no reason why they should not find themselves on the other side of a lawsuit for promoting hate speech.

    (Iran and Iranians come under a similar umbrella: speech that purposely seeks to arouse hatred of Iran/ Iranians is hate speech, by definition. It should be sanctioned under the same legal principles as are imposed with respect to all other groups. Media corporations have deep pockets. They should find themselves on the other side of some passionate lawyers, or law school students, replicating the activities of, for example, the Loyola Law School Project https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/17/us/wrongfully-convicted-man-free-after-32-years/index.html , might be one means of short-circuiting the only route PeterAUS envisions to resolving the Iran conflict. )

    Sue the bastards.

    Sue the government.

    Sue the CIA.

    Give law school students some real education in the real world work of making the legal system work for everyone. Unzites can provide expert advice on how to understand and deal interpret Talmudism, zionism, etc.

    Tie up Comcast, and CNN, and NRA, in noisy lawsuits every time they spew lies about evil Nazis: hate speech for one is hate speech for all.

    This has gone on too long, but there’s one more situation that arose in the Halbrook talk: a member of the audience asked:

    “Considering that there were very few Jews in Germany, compared to, say, Poland, how many Jews in Germany actually owned weapons? “

    Halbrook responded:

    “There’s no way to know how many Jews or how many Aryans or anybody else”

    [The core of Halbrook's research and a focus of his NRA argument was that gun owners were registered by the state.]
    Audience:

    “They knew who was Jewish, therefore they knew who to send out orders to surrender them.”

    Halbrook:

    [quibbles unconvincingly]

    Audience:

    “The only reason those few Jews who had guns had them, was for target shooting and sport. They didn’t hunt; we don’t hunt for food, it’s not kosher.”

    That’s fascinating: a person who is apparently Jewish is calling into question the basis and accuracy of Halbrook’s argument.

    People like Halbrook, and NRA, and the myriad other organizations and interests that continually raise the holocaust issues and historicity are, at least in this instance, not serving Jewish interests or even representing them appropriately; non-Jews are making use of Jews to perpetuate the demonization of Nazis, in this instance, and a Jew is resisting that expropriation.

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    MotS: Sometimes, push-back comes from unlikely places, and can change the entire trajectory of the discourse.
     
    Agree.

    You lost me on

    Gun Control in Nazi-Occupied France: Tyranny and Resistance.
     
    You want to hear my opinion about "gun control"?
    Here it is:

    Gun control has NOTHING to do with (armed) resistance against State.
    I know that an average American can't get that fact into his/her head and, honestly, can't care less.

    When there is a will, a kitchen knife will suffice.
    When there is no will no amount of toys will make any difference. Except in maintaining the self-delusion.

    And there is where the serious conversation of the topic stops.
    Certain things can't be posted here, or anywhere, by anybody with brains.
    If we had a quiet chat somewhere in park, maybe, just maybe, I could say something. If I trusted you, that is.
    Funny, a?
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  • @ChuckOrloski
    SolontoCroesus asked: "What are we going to do to stop this madness?"

    Hi S2C,

    There's hard evidence of a sector of Ireland politics which favor boycott of goods produced in illegal Israeli settlements. Please refer (down below) to VT Gordon Duff's article?

    FYI, in recent past, I mentioned this fact here @ U.R. and predicted the possibility of a retributive Israeli False Flag terror attack on Ireland.

    Hello Chuck Orloski!

    Your mention of Ireland fits in perfectly with comments Michael Jones made in a discussion of sexual politics and the New Left –

    in the context of the Irish vote — overwhelmingly in favor of abortion, Jones cited a statement in an 1890 essay in Civitate Catholica, the official magazine of the Vatican; it said, “Any country that turns away from the laws made by Christian rulers will end up being ruled by Jews.” (@ 57 min)

    So I suspect — am afraid, you are right: The Israeli power configuration already has its levers in place in Ireland.

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  • I disagree because USA and Israel are responsible for sowing much of the turmoil and animosity toward Iran.

    USA has an obligation to stand down its demonizing rhetoric and, to the extent possible, repair the damage it has caused. The American people and their government do not have the moral luxury of walking away from the train-wreck they caused.

    Israel? Israel does not believe the same rules that apply to the rest of civilization apply to the chosenites. As the political, economic and military superpower, USA has an obligation to the international community, in geopolitical terms (as well as moral terms), to its own citizens and to its foundational principles to rein in Israel by curtailing its unconditional support of Israel.

    Breaking the Jew taboo is a necessary first step, as Unz writers have urged.

    First statement said USA / Israel responsible for MUCH of the turmoil — but not all.
    There is simmering tension between Saudi Arabia and Iran. On Iran-Saudi relations and a pragmatic view of the range of tensions, test-drive Seyed Hossein Mousavian, former Iran ambassador to German, past member of Iran’s national security policy-making body

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?434512-2/regional-politics-iran-nuclear-agreement

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  • if other states in the region want to take on iran — for whatever reason, that seems more their business than ours.

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  • @L.K
    Hey Solonto,

    I do not believe Sibel Edmonds to be a reliable source AT ALL.

    I once did, though from time to time her strident and silly attacks on Putin and Russia made me suspicious... and I'm certainly not a member of Team Putin/Russia.

    But after her pathetically dishonest slandering campaign against Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett, I became fully convinced Sibel Edmonds is some sort of disinfo agent.

    In the following, J. Corbett of the Corbett Report, who had previously worked with Sibel Edmonds, easily exposes Sibel/new buds LIES and obfuscation about the brave Vanessa and Eva.
    Beware of this shyster...
    Fact Checking Newsbud's "Syria Under Siege" Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6IqyfDfImI

    Anyway, I do not believe the ZUSA regime change plans will work now... it is more of the same of what has been tried against Iran since the revolution.

    On The Path To Failure - U.S. Attempts Violent "Regime Change" In Iran
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/07/on-the-path-to-failure-us-goes-for-regime-change-in-iran.html

    Thanks for the link to Moon of Alabama. He added useful information.

    I understand & agree that Sibol is sketchy

    But I think she made two decent points: MEK is a smokescreen, and among other things, ZUSA is working to turn Iranian military leaders against their government.

    And the effort to cause so much economic distress among Iranians that they will overthrow their government did not start “a year or two ago,” it started over ten years ago, and the intent was stated overtly by US congressmen.

    These are not new tactics.

    So the warning to look out for an internal coup is a useful bit of information.

    Thierry Meyssan reported a few days ago on the Iranian threat to block the Straits of Hormuz, and

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article201901.html

    and one of MoA’s commenters linked to a Southfront report that

    https://southfront.org/us-vessel-carrying-chemicals-enters-persian-gulf/

    a cargo vessel of the U.S. Navy carrying chemical materials had entered the Persian Gulf (Arabian Gulf). The vessel, which is escorted by a U.S. warship, is currently parked off the coast of an Arabian Gulf state.

    “Checking the records of the U.S. cargo vessel MV Cape Ray revealed that the vessel had been present in the coasts near Iraq and Syria where the Americans had launched a military aggression under the pretext of the use of chemical weapons by those countries,” Brig. Gen. Shekarchi said, according to the Iranian MEHR news agency.

    So I understand & appreciate your cautions about Edmonds,
    but
    things seem to be heating up.

    What are we going to do about it?

    Oh, I know.

    Leaders of major American Christian denominations and institutions can use their new hash tag Reclaiming Jesus to protest separating children from their parents.

    While, as PeterAUS observed, we sit passively and wait for Iranians to be separated from their lives, homes, culture.

    Isn’t it time the AMERICAN people took to the streets, burned some tires, lynched some effigies, threw blood in some botoxed faces, blocked bridges into DC and NYC, went on hunger strikes, stormed ADL headquarters and defied their censors, sued the cable companies and networks that purvey hate speech, threatened to DISCONNECT all cable connections until media starts telling the truth, the whole truth . . .

    What are we going to do to stop this madness?

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    SolontoCroesus asked: "What are we going to do to stop this madness?"

    Hi S2C,

    There's hard evidence of a sector of Ireland politics which favor boycott of goods produced in illegal Israeli settlements. Please refer (down below) to VT Gordon Duff's article?

    FYI, in recent past, I mentioned this fact here @ U.R. and predicted the possibility of a retributive Israeli False Flag terror attack on Ireland.
    , @Art
    we sit passively and wait for Iranians to be separated from their lives, homes, culture.

    S2C,

    Trump is threatening Russia with cutting of the gas pipe deal with Europe. His intent is to put pressure on Putin and Russia to do in Iran. The quid pro quo is the gas line is Ok, if you starve Iran.

    It is always all about the Jews - Russia, Iran, and Europe. Europe cannot heat their homes with Russian natural gas because of the fascist tribal Jews.

    Think peace --- Do No Harm --- Art

    p.s. Your gasoline prices are high because of the Jew pressure on Iran oil.

    , @Art
    What are we going to do to stop this madness?

    S2C,

    Bitch like hell about paying an extra dollar for gas because Trump is putting sanctions on Iran oil for the mendacious Jews.

    Trump gives us 50 cents in tax relief, but takes away a dollar in gas prices. Hmm?

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @Art
    What are we going to do to stop this madness?

    We need to get it, like the People of Germany do - they want peace.

    Trump says we defend you - so you must NOT do business with Russia.

    The people say "screw you Trump" - the Russian are Europeans just like us - we are brothers - there is no reason for forward looking enmity between us - we want peace and warm homes.


    Poll Shows Germans Want Trump to Follow Through With Troop Pullout Threat

    Last month, US media reported that the Trump administration commissioned a Pentagon report considering Washington's options regarding its 35,000 troop-strong presence in Germany after the president expressed surprise at the cost of maintaining the presence.

    A YouGov poll commissioned by the German Press Agency found that a plurality of Germans would welcome a US withdrawal from their country.

    42% of those polled said they support withdrawal, with 37% against, and 21% undecided.

    The poll also found that supporters of the left-wing The Left party and the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) parties were more likely to back US exit, with 67% of The Left supporters and 55% of AfD supporters in favor of the idea.

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201807111066270937-germans-support-us-troop-withdrawal/

     

    Think Peace --- Art
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  • @J. B.
    Sibel Edmonds | July 9, 2018


    "... Edmonds reveals information obtained by multiple insider sources about a secret deal that was made to remove Iran’s current government by force ...'' :

    https://www.newsbud.com/2018/07/09/breaking-insiders-reveal-secret-deal-to-topple-iran-government/


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMzVxf1DW10

    The scheme Edmonds lays out is plausible. It’s not at all original or innovative;

    a. The pain being inflicted on the Iranian people to provoke them to riot is real and is a part of the overall plot. I disagree that this has been going on for a few years, it’s more like a few decades, with intermittent periods of relaxation. In an appearance on C Span in September, 2007, CA Congressman Ed Royce gloated over the suffering sanctions were causing the Iranian people:

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?200726-3/us-policy-iran

    “Tougher sanctions on Iran [are causing] the European financial institutions –banks, and Japanese banks to pull out of Iran . . . which has left the major banking system in Iran without hard currency. It’s helping create hyperinflation there –unemployment is now 20% in Iran.

    . . . The Iranians don’t have the wherewithal, the capital, to refine their own gasoline. They have to import almost half of it. . . . Now there’s discussions of steps to deprive Iran of gasoline. And if you wonder if this has an impact on the street, look at the riots we’ve seen where young people in Iran are torching gas stations. The lines are five hours long, and one of the recent broadcasts in Iran showed people in line saying, You mean we have the money to spend on Hezbollah, and yet we can’t get gasoline? . . .

    Royce noted that the tactic was used against states of FSU:

    Well, this kind of reaction is what we saw in Eastern Europe, the former Soviet Union during the efforts that Kohl, Margaret Thatcher, and Ronald Reagan put on those regimes to reform. And the hope here is that it creates a similar tension internally.

    The tactic reminded me of the methods American zionists and “International Jewry” deployed to soften up Germany for eventual destruction.

    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

    b. Edmonds is probably on-target in insisting that MEK is a smoke-screen, a diversion.

    c. Edmonds believes Iranian military elites are being approached and made an “offer they can’t refuse.” Unless they agree to participate in an internal coup, the Iranian people will continue to suffer. This is the starvation blockade all over again. Americans are shameless.

    Sibol says that the military leaders are promised that they will be protected.

    Take a look at this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=224&v=6cePM18Yvp8

    Rabbi David Bar-Hayim states with psychopathic coolness that

    “Talmud teaches that in a war, the best gentiles are to be killed.”

    We know this is what the Jewish participants in Nuremberg trials carried out:

    https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/05/05/the-biggest-murder-trial-in-history-did-the-american-run-einsatzgruppen-trial-use-forged-documents-to-convict-germans-of-genocide/

    As Ben Ferencz relates in this Hard Talk interview, after forcibly insinuating himself into Nuremberg trials, he selected the best gentiles to be killed:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=jmFg_ZkKo8M

    Interviewer: “You said you wanted to get the officers, not the foot soldiers but the educated . . .”
    Ferencz: ” Well, it’s very hard for the public today to understand: the special extermination squads, the Einsatzgruppen, were 3,000 men. I selected of these 3000 men, all of whom were complicit in mass murder — I selected on several factors . . . I want a list of everybody who was an Einsensatzgruppen from our intelligence sources sent out immediately to Nuremberg. I went over the list; I picked those of the highest rank and then checked out their background. Their Nazi party records which we captured in Berlin. Those who had doctor degrees or were generals, they got priority. We picked out 22. Why not 28? Because we had only 22 seats in the dock.”

    We have got to make American law makers understand that they are partnering with, and carrying out the genocidal agenda of psychopaths.

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    Hey Solonto,

    I do not believe Sibel Edmonds to be a reliable source AT ALL.

    I once did, though from time to time her strident and silly attacks on Putin and Russia made me suspicious... and I'm certainly not a member of Team Putin/Russia.

    But after her pathetically dishonest slandering campaign against Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett, I became fully convinced Sibel Edmonds is some sort of disinfo agent.

    In the following, J. Corbett of the Corbett Report, who had previously worked with Sibel Edmonds, easily exposes Sibel/new buds LIES and obfuscation about the brave Vanessa and Eva.
    Beware of this shyster...
    Fact Checking Newsbud's "Syria Under Siege" Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6IqyfDfImI

    Anyway, I do not believe the ZUSA regime change plans will work now... it is more of the same of what has been tried against Iran since the revolution.

    On The Path To Failure - U.S. Attempts Violent "Regime Change" In Iran
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/07/on-the-path-to-failure-us-goes-for-regime-change-in-iran.html
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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    Are they not?

    My understanding is that long before Jews hated Russians, Germans, Americans, French, the English, Canadians, Czechs, Australians etc. etc. they extra super hated Egyptians and Persians for things that happened millennia ago.

    I know that Jews in Iran have had a pretty sweet deal though.

    “the ancient enemy of the Jews, the Persians” —

    The above looks like Persians beset the Jews in some way, or that Persians harbored enmity toward Jews. Based on anecdotal evidence, that is not the case: even present-day non-Jewish Iranians express affection for Jews, and they of all people know the difference between Jews and rabbinic pharisaic / zionists.

    I prefer different phrasing that expresses the thought the other way around: Jews have hated, envied, resented Persians since the time of Cyrus, a hatred crystallized by Esther and celebrated by Jews to this day.


    Just watched Ron Paul and his intern, Patrick Henningsen, opine on Iran, MEK, etc. Folks like Paul, and Henningsen need to get beyond “the 1953 coup and that’s why Iranians hate USA . . .”

    George H W Bush played a key role in placing Khomeini in power.
    Maybe that’s a conspiracy theory, maybe not. Check it out.

    http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2011/11/rigged-revolution-how-shadow-cia-mi6.html

    Henningsen emphasizes that “Iranians remember” the 1953 coup and also the shoot-down of an Iranian airliner https://www.peaceaction.org/2009/05/22/493/

    I believe the gassing of Iranian civilians by Iraq, with at least covert support from US, looms even larger in the minds of Iranians: many thousands of Iranians are still living with the crippling effects of having been gassed.

    Iranians with a longer historic memory are aware that as many as 10 million Persians died of starvation in the course of WWI, when the British occupied Iran to supply and stage its war activities http://www.payvand.com/news/12/oct/1234.html

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    SolontoCroesus wrote: "George H W Bush played a key role in placing Khomeini in power. Maybe that’s a conspiracy theory, maybe not. Check it out."

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    I for one sense that powerful & treasonous U.S. Zionist strategists had great advantageous interest in Ayatollah Khomeini's France-based political activism and the 1979 Islamic (Shia) Republic of Iran's rise to power.

    Why? Such event set the stage for the 9-year long war with Sunni Muslim, Baathist President Saddam Hussein's Shiite majority-population Iraq. The state of Israel's joys of Muslims slaughtering one another.

    Historical record provides evidence of the Reagan administration's support for both sides.

    Why? An intensification of Sunni-Shiite enmity was established by the Z.U.S. & which advantageously fester's to this day, along with the Saud Royal family's complete blessing, encouragement.

    P.S. Article below, am quite certain you're aware of the WWII Anglo-Soviet "Operation Countenance," invasion of Iran, understandably undertaken to ensure National Socialist Germany's eviction from Iran's oilfields.
    Post-war, Stalin's Soviets were not eager to "pull out" of Iran, and the Allies were pissed about their communist friends having gained a revolutionary foothold in Baluchistan.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

    Thanks, S2C!
    , @jacques sheete

    Iranians with a longer historic memory are aware that as many as 10 million Persians died of starvation in the course of WWI, when the British occupied Iran to supply and stage its war activities http://www.payvand.com/news/12/oct/1234.html
     
    Thanks for the reminder. Damn, yer good!
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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    The saddest part of all this is that Trump is working so hard to please Israel by hurting the ancient enemy of the Jews, the Persians, and in return gets called a Nazi by the Jewish, which is to say mainstream, media who work tirelessly to undermine him and his government.

    So if he attacks Iran, he's a Nazi. If he doesn't attack Iran, he's also a Nazi.

    If he's going to be a Nazi anyway, why not just save all that American blood and money and leave Iran alone?

    The saddest part of all this is that Trump is working so hard to please Israel by hurting the ancient enemy of the Jews, the Persians,

    Was that a typo?

    Persians have been firmest friends to Jews for longest length of time.

    But your point about Trump’s no-win conundrum is spot-on.

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    Are they not?

    My understanding is that long before Jews hated Russians, Germans, Americans, French, the English, Canadians, Czechs, Australians etc. etc. they extra super hated Egyptians and Persians for things that happened millennia ago.

    I know that Jews in Iran have had a pretty sweet deal though.
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  • Bolton, Dubowitz, Israel, Giuliani, Miller, Israel, Kirk, Pompeo, Haley, Israel, Trump, etc etc.

    Bottom line: Israel wants Iran taken down. Washington obeys.

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    Mark,

    Washington obeys when the objective is realistic. I'm of the opinion that the costs and risks involved in taking Iran down are too high. It could cause the implosion of the global economy, the beginning of the collapse of the house of cards. Stirring up some protests in Iran will do nothing. A military attack on Iran will result in the fall of Israel, missile attacks on American bases in the region, and most certainly the closing of the Strait of Hormuz.

    (((They))) are powerful, but certainly not omnipotent.

    Frankie P
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  • I’ve hung out with poet Hai-Dang Phan in quite a few places. Since our first meeting in Certaldo, Italy in 2003, we’ve downed a few pints together in New York, Washington, Milwaukee, Iowa, Illinois, Philadelphia, Hanoi, Saigon and Vung Tau. This week, Hai-Dang flew down from Boston, and with his rented car, we spent two...
  • @RadicalCenter
    I respect the Amish, too, and I’m glad that they’re still growing in number.

    Mexicans and other “Latinos” will greatly outnumber the Amish in the Midwest, though, and you’ll need Spanish there just like most of the rest of the former USA.

    There are Mennonite communities in many pockets of western Pennsylvania. They’re just as industrious as the Amish, maybe a bit more modern — a Mennonite “quilt” shop in nearby Hagerstown, MD specializes in quilting machines that start in the five digits. Area “English” flock to the shop to learn how to use the machines to make all manner of colorful and intriguing but basically useless wall hangings.

    Has anyone studied youngsters in Amish/Mennonite communities for effects of being born and raised in closed groups? Some of the young Mennonites I’ve encountered seemed dull; they work hard, but I would be concerned about their ability to adapt if/once their surrounding adult community departed or collapsed.

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    The Amish have a tradition called Rumspringa, where kids live out in the world for a while before committing to an Amish life.

    Channel 4, in the UK, did a documentary where they brought some Amish kids to the UK. They were actually rather impressive.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFnpWncKO5I

    In one episode, the yuppies they were staying with mentioned that they wanted to build a garden shed, but had no idea how to do it. A couple of Amish lads knocked one together in a jiffy, and then expressed surprise that English adults could be like helpless children.

    There has probably been a "boiling off" effect on their genetics, as people with lower agreeableness have left the community.

    All in all, they are a decent bunch.

    Unfortunately, they are kind of parasitic - their lifestyle is only possible because the "English" took the land, and now protect them from those who would do them harm.
    , @Dillon Sweeny

    Has anyone studied youngsters in Amish/Mennonite communities for effects of being born and raised in closed groups? Some of the young Mennonites I’ve encountered seemed dull; they work hard, but I would be concerned about their ability to adapt if/once their surrounding adult community departed or collapsed.
     
    "The effects of being born and raised in closed groups"? Do you refer, perchance, to "closed groups" like the New England Rich? The Hollywood Corps of Money and Perversion? Tidewater Royalty? The Texan Upper Crust? The Israeli Moiety?

    IOW, any of the moneyed "elite" who destroyed America? I suspect not.

    Mennonites are rarely "dull", should you have the opportunity to see them from the inside. There are, or more correctly, there were many insular Mennonite groups in the past, but most have taken in new blood, adopted some form of more enlightened education for their children, and have found the vast pools of "English" to be willing to provide them with a standard of living the "English" themselves cannot boast.

    Mennonites run their own schools. The schools teach reading, writing, math, science, history and geography. Mennonite school-children don't go on field trips to Gramps' Pumpkin Theme Farms or amusement parks; they go on field-trips to observe the district and circuit courts, to election oversight meetings and town-halls. They don't say anything; they just watch. Mennonite school-children cannot recite histories of civil-rights marches, nor litanies of white injustice against blacks, mexicans, and africans.

    If the "young Mennonites" you've encountered seemed "dull" to you, it's because you were treated, quite properly, as the out-group person you are. Black behavior among whites, pre-MLK, was similar, should you be old enough to have witnessed it.

    Sometimes I suspect that history now moves white people into a permanent "out-group" condition. The symptoms are clear; look around ... watch ... observe. The world changes.
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  • There is much that the civilized world does not understand about modern Zionism. Today, the definitions of being Jewish, Israeli or Zionist are, to most people, analogous. They are not. Indoctrinated into submitting to this incorrect, singular and collective definition, solely due to Zionism's false claim of a direct religious link to Judaism, hence the...
  • “Modern zionism” desperately needs Correct — and concise definition, simple and potent enough to penetrate the Great Brainwashed..

    This ain’t it.

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  • Introduction by the Saker: I have always had a passion for theology in general and the studies of religions in general. Several years ago I discovered, quite by chance, a book written by Michael A. Hoffman II entitled Judaism's Strange Gods which I found most interesting and thought provoking. Reading that book, I felt that...
  • @Michael Hoffman
    To: @j2

    You inserted a box in which you ascribe to this writer the following statement:

    "Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament."

    Here's what I actually wrote:

    "Christians and many other goyim (gentiles) have been deluded into imagining that Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament."

    What you claim I believe about Judaism is what I described as a >delusion< about Judaism in the very sentence which you only partially quoted.

    You did not insert an ellipsis to show you were citing a sentence fragment. Instead, you deceptively gave the impression that my sentence began with the word "Judaism."

    Michael Hoffman

    You are correct, of course, and I apologize.

    Your complete statement was:

    Christians and many other goyim (gentiles) have been deluded into imagining that Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament. Hillel, the first century A.D. Pharisee who is believed to have been a contemporary of Jesus, and Moses Maimonides (“Rambam”), the medieval philosopher and theologian, are most often held up as exemplars of this supposed ethical Judaism.

    If “Hillel,. . . and Moses Maimonides (“Rambam”)” are not the “exemplars of . . . ethical Judaism,” then who is?

    In his introduction, The Saker wrote:

    “. . . all modern Judaic denomination are descendants of the sect of the Pharisees; furthermore, this religion is dramatically different from the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob . . .

    Do you agree with Saker’s assessment?

    Does that mean that the “religion of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” no longer exists?
    If that is the case, when you wrote,

    You mentioned “organized Jewry.” I don’t see myself as taking on “Jewry” per se. Orthodox Judaism, yes. Israeli Zionism, yes. But since both of those institutions are at their core fundamentally anti-Judaic, I view my work as an expression of love for Judaic people and as a conduit for their liberation.

    to whom were you referring? Who speaks for, or represents, or leads the “Judaics” of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

    —-

    Allan C. Brownfeld of the American Council for Judaism is frequently relied upon to present moderate Jewish discourse, by opposition groups such as WRMEA I’ve spoken with Brownfeld, including a statement very similar to your own: “I cannot find it in my conscience to believe that the technology described for the alleged gassing of people in Auschwitz-Birekenau is scientifically possible (cf.“The Great Holocaust Trial”).” Brownfeld turned his back on me in disgust.

    Another commenter linked an article by Uri Avnery, ARE YOU BRAINWASHED? Avnery’s argument hinges on statement about Nazi propaganda:

    For example, the Nazi “propaganda”. It was invented by Adolf Hitler himself. In his book, “Mein Kampf”, he describes how, as a soldier on the Western front in WWI, he witnessed the extremely successful British propaganda. The British dropped leaflets over the German trenches and shattered the soldiers’ confidence in their leadership.
    When Hitler came to power in Germany, he entrusted one of his faithful henchmen, Joseph Goebbels, with the creation of a Ministry of Propaganda. Goebbels turned propaganda into an art form. Among other means he turned all the German media – newspapers and the radio – into government agencies. In German that was called “Gleichschaltung” – connecting all components to one electric line. Thanks to this, Nazi Germany continued fighting long after it was clear that it had lost WWII.
    One of the means was the disconnection of the German public from any other source of information. The official propaganda was blared from every medium. Listening to a foreign broadcast was a major crime, punished severely.
    Thus it happened that the Germans still believed in their final victory – the Endsieg – even after the Soviets in the East and the Anglo-Saxons in the West had already crossed the borders into Germany.

    But Allies dropped leaflets: in The Ritchie Boys,” former RB Guy Stern relates how he and others of his colleagues composed and distributed leaflets. The Ritchie Boys were some 2,500 German Jews who left Germany in the mid-1930s and became members of US military, trained at Fort Ritchie, MD to infiltrate, spy upon, attempt to subvert (cause to surrender) and interrogate German POWs.

    The German people may have been bombarded with highly artistic happy-talk from Goebbels’ office, but they were also bombarded with firestorms that incinerated 600,000 of their fellows, de-housing 7 million of them. Goebbels’ propaganda could not disguise the realities that reduced 75% of Germany to rubble.

    Moreover, toward the end of the video of Rabbi Bar-Hayim that Saker posted, Bar-Hayim says:
    beginning ~ 1:34,

    “. . . in Gaza, there are no innocent civilians, they all voted for Hamas, they all share the same evil ideology which is murder, destruction, extermination, destroying the Jewish people, destroying the Torah, and bringing, as Winston Churchill said, a monstrous tyranny to the world. That is their aim, their expressed aim. Such civilians, so-called civilians, aren’t really civilians. Because these people truly believe in these goals and aims. And . . .they support the war effort . . . they send their children to blow themselves up on busses. . . . That is a truly . . .evil society. It’s a civilization based on death — death, blood, destruction and hatred. . . . Such people are worthy of death simply because of the views they espouse and the actions they take on a daily basis . . ..
    In that situation, carpet bomb the lot of them. That is the correct response. . . . Line up a few hundred artillery pieces on the border with Gaza and give the order to start firing. For how long? A month, two. . . . It’s also much cheaper than missiles.
    Bomb them, destroy them so utterly that they’ll never dare to do anything to you again. That is what the British and Americans . . . and Russians did to the Germans [and] Japanese, because that was the correct response; that was entirely correct and moral; that was the only way to defeat evil. That is the position of the Torah, and any other position is not only not practical and not efficient when it comes to winning and achieving victory, it is actually immoral. It supports evil in the world and allows it to continue. And there is nothing more immoral than that.”

    Then @ 1:41,

    “[This explains why we act the way we act . . .] We should remind the Americans how they acted when they confronted enemies . . . the fact that we remain silent . . . we exude weakness, we lack moral conviction in our own just cause by constantly saying that we want peace with these people; why on earth would you want to make peace with the epitome of evil?”

    The point in all of this is that holocaustism is the core, unassailable creed of the most rabid of rabbinic pharisees as well as of moderate Judaics. They cannot tear themselves away from the holocaust narrative, and the same tragic obsession and delusions afflict American foreign policy.

    Michael Ledeen persuaded me that zionist Jews set in motion the events that they well knew would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of thousands of Eastern European Jews.

    Yes, Louis Brandeis and Rabbi Stephen Wise directed that “all Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 of them . . .” Look it up. It’s an entire other conversation.

    PS Abraham is not my father.

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  • I have just spent a couple of days in New York City. Returning to Virginia on Wednesday morning, I had a somewhat strange experience. I cleared through my emails before leaving the hotel and also read through a number of the featured news articles. One, in particular, caught my eye. It described how the Democratic...
  • @renfro
    You could help yourself by learning the real history.....I suggest the foremost historian on the subject Thomas Thompson and his ' History of Arabia'.


    # Jerusalem was not founded by Jews, i.e. adherents of the Jewish religion. It was founded between 3000 BCE and 2600 BCE by a West Semitic people or possibly the Canaanites, the common ancestors of Palestinians, Lebanese, many Syrians and Jordanians, and many Jews. But when it was founded Jews did not exist.

    # Jerusalem was founded in honor of the ancient god Shalem. It does not mean City of Peace but rather ‘built-up place of Shalem.”

    # The “Jewish people” were not building Jerusalem 3000 years ago, i.e. 1000 BCE. First of all, it is not clear when exactly Judaism as a religion centered on the worship of the one God took firm form. It appears to have been a late development since no evidence of worship of anything but ordinary Canaanite deities has been found in archeological sites through 1000 BCE. There was no invasion of geographical Palestine from Egypt by former slaves in the 1200s BCE. The pyramids had been built much earlier and had not used slave labor. The chronicle of the events of the reign of Ramses II on the wall in Luxor does not know about any major slave revolts or flights by same into the Sinai peninsula. Egyptian sources never heard of Moses or the 10 plagues & etc. Jews and Judaism emerged from a certain social class of Canaanites over a period of centuries inside Palestine.

    # Jerusalem not only was not being built by the likely then non-existent “Jewish people” in 1000 BCE, but Jerusalem probably was not even inhabited at that point in history. Jerusalem appears to have been abandoned between 1000 BCE and 900 BCE, the traditional dates for the united kingdom under David and Solomon. So Jerusalem was not ‘the city of David,’ since there was no city when he is said to have lived. No sign of magnificent palaces or great states has been found in the archeology of this period, and the Assyrian tablets, which recorded even minor events throughout the Middle East, such as the actions of Arab queens, don’t know about any great kingdom of David and Solomon in geographical Palestine.

    # Since archeology does not show the existence of a Jewish kingdom or kingdoms in the so-called First Temple Period, it is not clear when exactly the Jewish people would have ruled Jerusalem except for the Hasmonean Kingdom. The Assyrians conquered Jerusalem in 722. The Babylonians took it in 597 and ruled it until they were themselves conquered in 539 BCE by the Achaemenids of ancient Iran, who ruled Jerusalem until Alexander the Great took the Levant in the 330s BCE. Alexander’s descendants, the Ptolemies ruled Jerusalem until 198 when Alexander’s other descendants, the Seleucids, took the city. With the Maccabean Revolt in 168 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean kingdom did rule Jerusalem until 37 BCE, though Antigonus II Mattathias, the last Hasmonean, only took over Jerusalem with the help of the Parthian dynasty in 40 BCE. Herod ruled 37 BCE until the Romans conquered what they called Palestine in 6 CE (CE= ‘Common Era’ or what Christians call AD). The Romans and then the Eastern Roman Empire of Byzantium ruled Jerusalem from 6 CE until 614 CE when the Iranian Sasanian Empire Conquered it, ruling until 629 CE when the Byzantines took it back.

    #The Muslims conquered Jerusalem in 638 and ruled it until 1099 when the Crusaders conquered it. The Crusaders killed or expelled Jews and Muslims from the city. The Muslims under Saladin took it back in 1187 CE and allowed Jews to return, and Muslims ruled it until the end of World War I, or altogether for about 1192 years.

    #Adherents of Judaism did not found Jerusalem. It existed for perhaps 2700 years before anything we might recognize as Judaism arose. Jewish rule may have been no longer than 170 years or so, i.e., the kingdom of the Hasmoneans.

    # Therefore if historical building of Jerusalem and historical connection with Jerusalem establishes sovereignty over it here are the groups that have the greatest claim to the city:

    A. The Muslims, who ruled it and built it over 1191 years.
    B. The Egyptians, who ruled it as a vassal state for several hundred years in the second millennium BCE.
    C. The Italians, who ruled it about 444 years until the fall of the Roman Empire in 450 CE.
    D. The Iranians, who ruled it for 205 years under the Achaemenids, for three years under the Parthians (insofar as the last Hasmonean was actually their vassal), and for 15 years under the Sasanids.
    E. The Greeks, who ruled it for over 160 years if we count the Ptolemys and Seleucids as Greek. If we count them as Egyptians and Syrians, that would increase the Egyptian claim and introduce a Syrian one.
    F. The successor states to the Byzantines, which could be either Greece or Turkey, who ruled it 188 years, though if we consider the heir to be Greece and add in the time the Hellenistic Greek dynasties ruled it, that would give Greece nearly 350 years as ruler of Jerusalem.
    G. There is an Iraqi claim to Jerusalem based on the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests, as well as perhaps the rule of the Ayyubids (Saladin’s dynasty), who were Kurds from Iraq.

    Thanks for your effort in summarizing this high-quality information.

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    You're welcome

    After I started studying the British National Archives on the ME I later started reading the individual histories of Rome and Egypt... what is interesting is that there is practically no mention of Jews in those countries histories. The only mention is to a small Jewish conclave in Palestine that served as an outpost/ garrison for soldiers of both Egypt and Rome at various times.

    But if one reads the Jewish authored histories one would think Jews figured prominently in the ME when in fact they were very minor and had not much impact . In the battles Jews write about they were only small joiners/followers of larger powerful groups like for example in the Persians conquest of Jerusalem in 614 C.E. after which Jews were allowed to stay.

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  • @bj
    If the Judaic's reach the level of supremacy in the USA, that they have in Palestine, the goyim will be murdered with impunity, as are unarmed Palestinian men, women, and children.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS2vMDKrODA

    AGREE with your opening statement, that if the form of Jewish supremacy on daily display in Palestine reaches the USA, non-Jews in USA are in grave danger.

    DISAGREE strongly with Michael Hoffman’s provocative assertions about Talmudist and Rabbinic Phariseeism, and most especially his comparison of Talmudist to Nazism (National Socialism – NS).

    This comment serves as a marker — it needs more work.
    I’ve spent four or five hours working on a response to Hoffman’s comment at The Saker’s Interview of Hoffman, @ #272 https://www.unz.com/tsaker/an-interview-with-michael-a-hoffman-ii/#comment-2398531 and it still needs more research. Hoffman has far greater knowledge of Hebrew scripture than my own, by his perception of NS history and the interrelationship of zionism is deeply, perhaps fatally flawed.

    Later.

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  • If the Judaic’s reach the level of supremacy in the USA, that they have in Palestine, the goyim will be murdered with impunity, as are unarmed Palestinian men, women, and children.

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    AGREE with your opening statement, that if the form of Jewish supremacy on daily display in Palestine reaches the USA, non-Jews in USA are in grave danger.

    DISAGREE strongly with Michael Hoffman's provocative assertions about Talmudist and Rabbinic Phariseeism, and most especially his comparison of Talmudist to Nazism (National Socialism - NS).

    This comment serves as a marker -- it needs more work.
    I've spent four or five hours working on a response to Hoffman's comment at The Saker's Interview of Hoffman, @ #272 https://www.unz.com/tsaker/an-interview-with-michael-a-hoffman-ii/#comment-2398531 and it still needs more research. Hoffman has far greater knowledge of Hebrew scripture than my own, by his perception of NS history and the interrelationship of zionism is deeply, perhaps fatally flawed.

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  • @renfro
    I haven't seen any reliable polls on that......the msm has interviews with Trump supporters who say they are disappointed in him for whatever thats worth, probably not much.
    Have seen though polls that show some Trumpers against his polices like off shore drilling in the US, his tax plan, his ditching the Iran agreement and etc..

    “TTG”, one of SST’s trusted writers, posted this report that you didn’t read in NYTimes or hear on C Span:
    Carrots and Sticks in Syria – TTG 03 Jul 2018

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/07/carrots-and-sticks-in-syria-ttg.html

    . . . possible diplomatic breakthrough in southwest Syria. The core of this breakthrough was and remains an intense effort to speed peace negotiations between Damascus and various opposing forces in Syria. It was key to the SAA’s recent successes in reducing the eastern Ghouta, Homs and even the Yarmouk refugee camp pockets. The same methodology has enabled the rapid recent success in Daraa. This effort is spearheaded by the Russian Reconciliation Center based at Khmeimim Air Base in Latakia. In addition to pushing peace deals, it coordinates relief aid to newly reconciled areas.

    This carrot of reconciliation would not be effective without the stout stick which the SAA has become. We are all familiar with the formidable Tiger Force and the growing list of their combat successes. That success is being reinforced and replicated throughout the SAA by the Russians. Units are being reorganized and re-equipped along the Russian Army model without destroying what the Syrians themselves built over years of painful combat experience. Units raised independently of the SAA, including those trained and advised by the IRGC and Iranian Green Berets, will be folded into the SAA. This is also happening with some former rebels who have reconciled with Damascus. We could learn something from this experience given how we screwed the pooch with the Iraqi and Afghani armies. . . .

    there’s more at SST

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/07/carrots-and-sticks-in-syria-ttg.html

    Three days ago, Pat Lang passed along reports from Haaretz and Almasdar that “Israel accepts Syrian control up to the UNDOF Line”

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/07/httpswwwalmasdarnewscomarticleisrael-wants-only-syrian-pro-govt-forces-near-border-haaretz.html

    but you probably heard that from Jake Tapper. Or Sean Hannity.

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    Speaking of Syria:

    Osama Abo Zayd, Former Spokesman of the Free Syrian Army former Syrian opposition chief negotiator at the Astana talks.
    Kevork Almassian, founder of SyrianaAnalysis and Syrian Analyst.
    Danny Makki, a freelance journalist and commentator on the Syria conflict, specialising in Syria's relations with Russia and Iran.
    Yahya al-Aridi, Spokesman for the Syrian Negotiation Commission.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcXkbsXYR98
    Heated Debate: Kevork Almassian vs. FSA & opposition representatives
    , @renfro
    Thanks...... read that and take it as good news......'if' Israel doesn't throw any monkey wrenchs ..

    but you probably heard that from Jake Tapper. Or Sean Hannity.
     
    I don't listen to those Fox guys or the liberal guys either.....there're just noise.
    I stick to the overseas press and sources like Lang and others who have had experience in the ME and actually know something about the region and the militaries.
    , @RobinG
    These look interesting:

    A recent book that summarize and adds to Quigley's work and exposes how WWI was a lie set up by the secret elites working in broad daylight is Hidden History.
    It shows how the elites worked with the media and the UK weapons industry to demonize Germany.

    Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War.
    https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-History-Secret-Origins-First/dp/1780576307

    After starting a deadly but profitable war and dragging the US into it, the victorious powers held the Paris Peace Conference in the year 1919.
    This was the birth of "internationalist society" & Atlanticism.

    The Emergence of International Society in the 1920s
    https://www.amazon.com/Emergence-International-Society-1920s/dp/1107021138
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  • Introduction by the Saker: I have always had a passion for theology in general and the studies of religions in general. Several years ago I discovered, quite by chance, a book written by Michael A. Hoffman II entitled Judaism's Strange Gods which I found most interesting and thought provoking. Reading that book, I felt that...
  • @Mulegino1

    Hitler was among the most wicked enemies of the German people in recorded history. I am not interested in excuses, alibis and whining — only results. The results of his leadership were nearly apocalyptic for Germany, which would have been infinitely better off had the Weimar republic endured. Whether not it would have eventually fallen to Stalin (which I doubt), it would not have lost five millions soldiers and millions of civilians in the years 1939-1947. More importantly, the Germans would not have been branded with the exceedingly destructive psychological baggage of the “Holocaust,” and the Zionist movement would be realizing its dreams in Brooklyn and Miami Beach, rather than Palestine.
     
    Nice hindsight. Yes, Hitler was a wicked enemy of the German people who took a prosperous and dignified Weimar Republic- under which the German people were flourishing, prosperous and happily employed- and turned the Germans into a starving, demoralized populace. His National Socialist movement converted Berlin, a happy, culturally vibrant and cleanly metropolis into a den of perversion and a worldwide center of prostitution, where women were forced to turn their tricks just in order to keep from starving to death.

    Hitler's major crime was having lost the war which, for the most part, was forced upon him and Germany by the British War Party, international Jewry and Germanophobic elements in the FDR administration. The war against Germany, covertly and overtly, was primarily a British Imperial project which had begun in earnest when Bismark united the Reich in 1871. The British simply would not brook a continental power strong enough to dictate its own terms to the world and compete with Britain industrially and

    The reality is that the big loser of the war was not only Germany, but Christian Europe. I would daresay that Hitler's goal of a united "Europe of Nations" would have been far more preferable than the current sodomite worshiping, culturally suicidal EU.

    Thanks, Mulegino1.

    Hoffman’s statement has been fermenting. The response I’ve been conjuring was along the lines of how evil it was of Hitler to have terror-bombed 175 German cities and deliberately incinerated >600,000 German civilians.
    How evil it was of Hitler/Hitlerites to rape 2 million German women.
    etc.
    etc.

    As for Weimar being a better alternative, who would have led a successful Weimar, and when would that high water mark have been achieved? How many more Germans would have starved, been debauched, prostituted along the way?

    Sebastian Hafner’s writings make the case that “it was either Rathenau or Hitler,” and when Rathenau was assassinated, the rise of Hitler was inevitable.

    Moreover, many German Jews were less-than-enamored of Rathenau; books about him are not that plentiful, and Spielberg has not cemented him in the popular imagination.

    Who does Hoffman think would have led Germany? If not Hitler, then who?
    Would Bolsheviks have been successful in pulling Germany into the Communist international?

    Furthermore, Hitler was selected and groomed by FDR associates; namely, Putzi Hanfstaengel, who communicated/collaborated with American foreign service officers in Germany to finance and guide the writing and publication of Main Kampf; to make that book’s way into English publication in USA; to support Hitler financially and psychologically after his failed bid for power. Some have noticed the resemblance between the Harvard — Putzi’s and FDR’s alma mater — Fight cheer and the Sieg Heil salute, and between Harvard bold, red sports banner and the swastika banner.

    I don’t believe the possibility of Germany avoiding a Cartheginian event existed; Germany was marked for destruction years before Hitler’s ascent to the chancellery. Hitler was the equivalent of Saddam Hussein — he was selected and used by the forces who, earlier or later, intended to destroy him and Germany. Charles Lindbergh identified those forces.

    I suspect FDR and Churchill intended to use Stalin in the same way, but Stalin slipped the noose, not so difficult to do inasmuch as FDR’s administration was thoroughly infiltrated by Communists, as Ron Unz outlined here: American Pravda: Our Deadly World of Post-War Politics, and which Benjamin Ginsberg substantiates here: How the Jews Defeated Hitler.

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  • @Kairos Kagathos
    The question of the malice of some Jewish elites against the Goyim has been raised for centuries.
    Michael Hoffmann is - I think - generally right when he shows that the Jewish hatred of the Goy is theorized, justified, in short, exposed as a divine commandment in the Talmud.

    But the real question around which millions of people, newspaper articles and books are turnin is this: is this hatred a decisive motive for the behavior of certain Jewish communities (and if so, which ones) toward the Goyim? Science (I think of psychology and sociology) has never frankly raised the question and therefore never resolved it.

    I have read many articles speculating on the influence of the Talmud on the Jewish mindset. It is exciting. But at a certain point, we do not want to have credible answers, but sure answers: researchers, psychometricians, sociologists, map the Jewish mentality (or mentalities), so that we can answer the Jewish question on a solid basis !

    On the other hand, Michael Hoffmann's idea that the Talmud would be the evil betrayal of a "good" Old Testament seems false to me. Certainly, the Old Testament reprimands the Hebrews, the Israelites or the Jews unfaithful to Yahveh, but many texts also show that the Goyim deserve extermination, especially in order for the chosen people to take possession of the Land promised by God. Evil, immorality, are already in the Torah.

    As for the New Testament, and especially the Gospel of John, one must honestly admit that it is hostile, at least in part, to the Jews. This new testament is itself the doctrinal text of the Christian faction that prevailed over all rival Christian or Judeo-Christian factions at the beginning of the 4th century. Hate comes a priori from all sides: between Jews and Christians, between Jews, between Christians.

    Kairos Kagathos wrote:

    On the other hand, Michael Hoffmann’s idea that the Talmud would be the evil betrayal of a “good” Old Testament seems false to me. Certainly, the Old Testament reprimands the Hebrews, the Israelites or the Jews unfaithful to Yahveh, but many texts also show that the Goyim deserve extermination, especially in order for the chosen people to take possession of the Land promised by God. Evil, immorality, are already in the Torah.

    Agree.

    Psalm 137 is a core text for not only “Israeli Zionists” but, we are told, all “Judaics”

    If I forget you, Jerusalem,
    may my right hand forget its skill.
    May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
    if I do not remember you,
    if I do not consider Jerusalem
    my highest joy.

    Psalm 137 concludes with:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

    Hoffman’s attempt to separate “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” from the god of the psalmist, David, is specious.

    Hoffman wrote:

    “Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament.”

    It’s difficult to discern the ethic of proportionality between destroying a temple and “dashing infants against the rocks.”

    Thomas Jefferson believed Judaism to be (more than) “somewhat flawed” by its nature:

    I should then take a view of the deism and ethics of the Jews, and show in what a degraded state they were, and the necessity they presented of a reformation. I should proceed to
    a view of the life, character, & doctrines of Jesus, who sensible of incorrectness of their ideas of the Deity, and of morality, endeavored to bring them to the principles of a pure deism, and juster notions of the attributes of God, to reform their moral doctrines to the standard of reason, justice & philanthropy, and to inculcate the belief of a future state . . . http://memory.loc.gov/service/mss/mtj/mtj1/028/028_0191_0199.pdf

    and

    Jews. 1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief of one only God. But their ideas of him & of his attributes were degrading & injurious.
    2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason & morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; & repulsive & anti- social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.

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    Agreed. It is all already in Torah. Joseph does usury, Jacob cheats, blood sacrifices are there, the promise of ruling the world and destroying or enslaving all others is there. Talmud is a clarification of Torah, it is not changing the meaning.
    , @Michael Hoffman
    To: @j2

    You inserted a box in which you ascribe to this writer the following statement:

    "Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament."

    Here's what I actually wrote:

    "Christians and many other goyim (gentiles) have been deluded into imagining that Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament."

    What you claim I believe about Judaism is what I described as a >delusion< about Judaism in the very sentence which you only partially quoted.

    You did not insert an ellipsis to show you were citing a sentence fragment. Instead, you deceptively gave the impression that my sentence began with the word "Judaism."

    Michael Hoffman
    , @Kairos Kagathos
    It is pleasant to see that the great Jefferson himself had perfectly perceived the serious moral defects of Judaism. Seeing the ravages of this religion in the United States, he must turn in his grave!

    These defects seem inevitable, since Talmudic Judaism can be analyzed as a religion of the glorification of the Jew. Why ? The Talmud, in fact, tells a story of the destiny of the Jews here below. If the Jews observe the commandments of Yahveh, he will reward the Jews by destroying their enemies and consecrating them as the highest people at the End of Time, the rest of humanity providing slaves for them. In the same vein, Talmudic conceptions make Jews the people who "repair the world". It is impossible to construct universal principles of morality on such a basis: the sacred texts establish the inferiority of the non-Jew in essentia, and open the door to a narcissism and a pride incompatible with the exercise of the examination of conscience , touchstone of morality.

    Thanks to the progress of historical science, many stories of the Old Testament appear as megalomaniac fables: the Hebrews are freed from their slavery in Egypt (the Hebrews were never captive in Egypt), the captivity of the Jews in Babylon (sweet enough for many of the deportees to want to stay in Persia!), the dispersion of the Jews in the world after the destruction of the Second Temple (70 AD) or the campaign of the Emperor Hadrian (135 AD), dispersion that is a lie, the greatness of Solomon's kingdom (a dream). In the same vein, Old Testament texts were written much later than mythology suggests, and Israel's antiquity is largely exaggerated.
    Many Jews and non-Jews regard these myths as historical facts. The truth is that the people living in ancient times in the territory of what is present-day Israel was rather obscure. He did not know at all the immense misfortunes with which he boasts nowadays, Israel as a state was an independent power only a short time. It has not been independent, by and large, since the sixth century BC.

    I think, with many others, that these myths are likely to forge a mentality where tribal narcissism, pride, a weak capacity for self-criticism, a taste for drama, disdain for truth, paranoia and resentment have an important place.
    To take one example, the fact that many Jews want to "justify" the existence of the State of Israel by resorting to the history of the Jews (in reality: the myths that a Jewish elite has created and maintains since a very long time) is an aberration that does not seem to bother them. Indeed, a nation-state acquires legitimacy to exist only because the enterprise (the war, most often) that makes it emerge is a success. Israel was born from the war, period. He is legitimate as a “fait accompli”, as are all other states, and that is all. Wanting to give to modern Israel a higher legitimacy of existence by drawing on historical impostures is totally absurd in terms of public international law and denotes an astounding arrogance. In the same vein, Zionist Jews living outside Israel do not seem to be bothered by the fact that the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzel, justified the creation of the State of Israel by the need to provide a safe haven to all the Jews, always persecuted (of course!). These same Jews, for example, live in the United States, of which they are the citizens, and are quite satisfied that there are Jewish lobbies to support the foreign state of Israel in every way. All these paradoxes, these contradictions are unbearable to an European with a mentality of "common decency". They also draw certain mental characteristics: the practice of double moral standards, egocentrism, inability to introspect, regressive attitude of indignation and aggression when reproaches are addressed to the Jews concerned by these attitudes.
    If we transpose this collective attitude (which does not concern all Jews, far from it, but, say, a fringe or elite highly motivated and active, whose action is decisive in the United States, for example), on the level of individual psychology, we see appear a known schema in transactional analysis: the triangle of Karpman.
    This illustrates the destructive relationships that can exist between two irresponsible individuals, as opposed to healthy relationships between responsible individuals. I want to remind particularly two of the three positions of Karpman's triangle: the "Victim" and the "Persecutor". The irresponsible individual by definition refuses responsibility for his actions. When he makes a bad action, he reacts to reproach by posing as a victim, pointing to the other as the "hangman", so that he becomes at the same time the "persecutor".
    We immediately perceive the parallel with what we see every day in many Jewish organizations: to tax the critics of anti-Semites (the Jews being then the "victims"), and to ask for punishments (the organizations assume then the position the persecutor).
    This type of regressive, irresponsible and destructive relationship has become widespread in the West, particularly in the US (Democratic Party, Social Justice Warriors, Cultural Marxists) and creates the unbearable public climate we know. Many Jews, unfortunately, disgrace themselves in these movements. They are activists of permanent accusation and indignation. They are even so over-represented that the following question can not fail to arise: why do so many Jews behave this way?

    It should be this fringe of Jews to answer the question. But they do not do it. This is very disturbing. Historical knowledge is progressing. The history of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, for example, is progressing. And what do we discover (or rediscover)? That the Jews occupying positions of high authority in operations of extermination of populations were in massively high numbers, without proportion with their importance in the Russian population. The great Solzhenitsyn explained all this (see his book Two centuries together). The reaction of the official Jews was that of Karpman's triangle: Solzhenitsyn, anti-Semite! No willingness of the Jewish world to consider this terrible story, to ask themselves, for example, these kind of question : 6 million Ukrainians (perhaps 10 million according to more recent estimates) were exterminated in the 1930s, and the importance of the Jews in this massacre, both numerically and hierarchically, not to mention the foreign funding for the Bolsheviks provided in part by Jewish banks, is overwhelming.
    I do not know how things will evolve, but unless the general population stays asleep, this mixture of show of power by many Jewish organizations, blindness and aggression may end up triggering violent reactions.
    The Jewish world needs great men to be heard and to liberate millions of Jews from this mental ghetto made of old lying myths, immoral conceptions taught in sacred books, and regressive and destructive psychological patterns.

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  • @Mulegino1
    I know what you mean. International Jewry has so far successfully deflected its own criminality onto the "evil Nazis" and become the victim because of that biggest of all big lies, the Holohoax. Without the mystical talisman of the "Six Million" and Jewry's editorial control of popular "culture" (hardly culture, more like a viral infection in the cultural bloodstream) the masses would no doubt recoil in horror at the horrors that the Jews, as a collective, have wrought upon humanity in the last 100 years. But the kosher standard for evil imposed upon the collective conscious is "Hitler and the Nazis." It is impossible to retain a vigorous, virile and viable authentic culture rooted in our fathers' past when the main moral imperative of our society is to avoid being seen as a "Nazi" or a "Fascist" and allow ourselves to be dictated to by the Guardians of the Hoax and the paradigms of political correctness.

    We must demystify and demythologize the great world conflict of 1939-1945, and the Hollywood versions of Hitler as the devil and the "evil Nazis" and in doing so reclaim our Christian European heritage which has been infected by the spirit of groveling collective guilt, apologies and the payment of reparations ad infinitum to the ancient enemy of humanity, international Jewry. The wallowing in our own collective guilt and that of our progenitors must cease. We must make no more apologies for the past. We must focus our energies and our efforts on reclaiming our heritage and in exposing the greatest lie and blood libel of all time.

    I agree also.

    I’ve not read any of Hoffman’s books; all I know of Hoffman is what I’ve viewed on several videos and this interview with Saker.

    In this interview, Hoffman’s comparison of National Socialism to “Rabbinic Phariseeism,” with “self-worship – narcissism” being the salient feature, is disappointing. For one thing, it’s an intellectually and contextually sloppy comparison:

    –> NS had a decidedly national focus, and endured for ~15 years, it has been all but erased from the face of the earth, physically thru war and culturecide, historically via punishment, censorship and persistent propaganda.
    But Rabbinic Phariseeism is group evolutionary strategy that has developed and endured for over a millennia; it is not territorially-specific — in the video Saker linked, Rabbi Bar-Hayim declares that it is morally necessary to kill all the people of Gaza for the benefit of Jews just as it was morally appropriate to firebomb numerous German cities (and incinerate hundreds of thousands of German civilians) for the benefit of Jews; in other words, no matter where they are, Jews are entitled to dominate and to exterminate the indigenous people in order to do so. Rabbinic Phariseeism has universalist intentions in which Jews will be in charge: so AaronB informs @ #57:

    Judaism is very much a universalizing religion – Jews have a unique and privileged place in the scheme of world salvation, and are certainly more important than others, but only insofar as they play a key role in the salvation of the entire world.

    so Rabbi Ken Spiro of AISH.com insists:

    http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/96037069.html

    –> NS was a reaction to Rabbinic Phariseeism, a defense against it, perhaps only the second such (temporarily) successful attempt to remove the malign influence from. One might have agreed with Hoffman if he had claimed that Nazism was ‘zionism for Germans,’ but even that would have to have been qualified and limited.

    –> NS was a nation-based social and political response to a devastating attack on German culture and the German people — 800,000 German civilians died of starvation as a result of a war that was prolonged to benefit/make possible the Zionist project. That’s the equivalent of ~4 million people in USA today, approximately the population of LosAngeles. How would USA react if every single man, woman child in Los Angeles were starved to death?

    –> Hoffman conjures Blavatsky and other “occult” or “Kabbalistic” or deeeeep psychological maladjustments to explain German reactions to Jews, but he seems to rely on the propaganda version of history rather than actual events as they played out for the vast majority of the German people.

    –> Specifically, Hoffman failed to note an extremely important, readily verified fact: it was at the direction of the leader of Zionist Jews that German Jews were “expelled” from Germany. The Feb. + – 14, 1933 conversation where that directive was delivered by Louis Brandeis to Rabbi Stephen Wise is recorded in Wise’s autobiography, The Challenging Years; quoted in Edwin Black’s The Transfer Agreement; and cited by Douglas Reed in The Controversy of Zion.

    –> Nor does Hoffman appear to take account of the activities of Jews within Germany over the preceding half-century or so, particularly as Jewish money practices exploited German unification and industrialization; and Jews outside Germany who acted upon- and relentlessly vilified Germans as they attempted to revitalize their national morale and economy. Even Jeff Herf conceded that Germans had every reason to be angry with Jews and seek to expel them from Germany, given the harms Germans had endured because of (primarily Zionist) Jewish activities.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?192852-1/the-jewish-enemy-nazi-propaganda


    Ron Unz published the Saker-Hoffman interview, and also the over-the-top holocaust howl by Karen Greenberg. Unz commentariat called out Greenberg’s screed for the excess in holocaustism that it is.

    But we’re not going to make headway in finding a balanced modus vivendi with our Jewish brethren and sistern — or a sane, America First foreign policy — if “good guys” like Hoffman mouth what is effectively the same decontextualized and distorted historicity as the obvious propagandists like Greenberg.

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    There are several generalizations in your reply. This rejoinder will deal with only the most egregious.

    You wrote: "Hoffman’s comparison of National Socialism to 'Rabbinic Phariseeism,' with 'self-worship – narcissism' being the salient feature, is disappointing. For one thing, it’s an intellectually and contextually sloppy comparison: NS had a decidedly national focus, and endured for ~15 years, it has been all but erased from the face of the earth, physically thru war and culturecide, historically via punishment, censorship and persistent propaganda. But Rabbinic Phariseeism is group evolutionary strategy that has developed and endured for over a millennia; it is not territorially-specific…” (End quote)

    What do the preceding prolix remarks have to do with refuting my contention that Hitler’s Nazism (“National Socialism,” i.e. “NS”), constitutes a type of self-worship?

    You wrote: "NS was a reaction to Rabbinic Phariseeism, a defense against it, perhaps only the second such (temporarily) successful attempt to remove the malign influence from.” (End quote)

    Nietzsche warned about becoming what you (allegedly) oppose. The Nazis did indeed become a type of spiritual Talmudism, exhibiting the accompanying pathological narcissism—pitfalls that Luther and Nietzsche relentlessly opposed. Moreover, I am not at all convinced that Hitler’s movement was a genuine revolt against Talmudic Judaism, in that anyone conversant with its self-protection mechanisms knows that it becomes stronger as a result of certain types of hostility and persecution. In addition to being the gravedigger of Germany, Adolf Hitler is the actual founder of the Israeli state, without whom it would not have come to pass. Germany in ruins and the Israelis flying high—this is the “Fuhrer’s” legacy — but no doubt everyone but Hitler is to blame (another reaction typical of Talmudists when their rabbis are shown to have been guilty of high crimes and calamities) .

    Much of the rest of your reply consists of monotonous “blame the Jews” stuff that is a fixture of creaky 1930s Jew hate. I have studied (in “Usury in Christendom”) the utility of this hatred for the empire of gentile usurers who, beginning in the early Renaissance, distracted from their massive usury operations by scapegoating Judaic money-lenders who represented not one-tenth of the usury operations of the era. Germany in the 1920s was peopled with many tens of thousands of patriotic, assimilating German-Judaics who, contrary to Hitler, had fought honorably in World War I and had abandoned the Talmud in favor of Christianity or secularism. How can you justify their collective punishment?

    Furthermore, do I understand you correctly, are you actually trying to put the blame for Hitler’s mass extrusion of German-Judaics, on Louis Brandeis and Stephen Wise? (‘...it was at the direction of the leader of Zionist Jews that German Jews were 'expelled' from Germany’). You really imagine that absent Zionist chicanery, Hitler would have been fine with permitting German-Judaics to reside in Germany peacefully with their communities intact?

    You wrote: "Nor does Hoffman appear to take account of the activities of Jews within Germany over the preceding half-century or so, particularly as Jewish money practices exploited German unification and industrialization…” (End quote)

    And the non-Judaic German usurious bankers— what were they doing in terms of exploitation of the German people? It was mainly Judaic usurers who were culpable?

    In point of fact, Hitler cynically mouthed the rhetoric of the great anti-usury activists before he came to power and then after he became dictator abandoned the movement to abolish interest on debt, which was one of the main reasons the German people voted for him.

    You wrote: "NS endured for ~15 years, it has been all but erased from the face of the earth, physically thru war and culturecide, historically via punishment, censorship and persistent propaganda.” (End quote)

    I disagree. Nazism is alive and well on planet earth. Its capital is Jerusalem and its victims are Palestinians (and the non-Zionist Judaics in whose name Israeli crimes are perpetrated).

    Lastly, I am a German-American with strong ties to the native land of my ancestors, though I cannot visit that land because I'm subject to arrest by the Zionist-occupation government in Berlin because I cannot find it in my conscience to believe that the technology described for the alleged gassing of people in Auschwitz-Birekenau is scientifically possible (cf.“The Great Holocaust Trial”).

    Hitler was among the most wicked enemies of the German people in recorded history. I am not interested in excuses, alibis and whining — only results. The results of his leadership were nearly apocalyptic for Germany, which would have been infinitely better off had the Weimar republic endured. Whether not it would have eventually fallen to Stalin (which I doubt), it would not have lost five millions soldiers and millions of civilians in the years 1939-1947. More importantly, the Germans would not have been branded with the exceedingly destructive psychological baggage of the “Holocaust,” and the Zionist movement would be realizing its dreams in Brooklyn and Miami Beach, rather than Palestine.

    My hope is that a movement for German renaissance will arise cognizant of the fundamentally anti-German nature of the Hitler interregnum, and develop independent of it, with a strong human rights orientation for Germans and all human beings, including the disabled Down syndrome children now being exterminated in Europe and America by neo-Nazi abortionists.

    — Michael Hoffman, Box 849, Coeur d’Alene, Idaho 83816 USA
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  • "If you're ... pathetically weak, the country is going to be overrun with millions of people, and if you're strong, then you don't have any heart, that's a tough dilemma. ... I'd rather be strong." So said President Donald Trump, on issuing his order halting the separation of children from parents caught breaking into the...
  • @Gordo

    Is there a liberal, progressive, Christian way to seal a 2,000-mile border, halt millions of migrants from crossing it illegally, and send intruders back whence they came?
     
    How about building a fecking wall? No-one ever thought of that?

    It's lack of will I know, we here live on a group of islands and our traitor ruling class is still facilitating invaders.

    Heard this on C Span:
    guest: Andrew Selee, Migration Policy Institute

    1] Selee: “Mexico has an election coming up; the liberal candidate, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, is likely to be elected, the first liberal in many years . . .”

    2] Selee: “US has robust communications with Mexico . . . Barbara Spectre Jared Kushner is in very frequent contact with his Mexican counterpart. . . . Kushner talks with Mexico more than any other country.”

    3] http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/mexican-candidate-immigration-speech/

    ‘IT’S A HUMAN RIGHT’ — MEXICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CALLS FOR MASS EXODUS TO AMERICA
    5:45 PM 06/22/2018
    Dominic Mancini | Reporter

    Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.

    “And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Barbara Spectre Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

    He then declared it as “a human right we will defend,” eluniversal.com reports.

    While the election is not until July 1, Obrador is by far the frontrunner. (RELATED: Mag: Mexican Official Dreams Of Trump Assassination, But Most Urge Prudence)

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  • I had coffee with a foreign friend a week ago. The subject of Donald Trump inevitably came up and my friend said that he was torn between describing Trump as a genius or as an idiot, but was inclined to lean towards genius. He explained that Trump was willy-nilly establishing a new world order that...
  • @Michael Kenny
    Don't forget that 19th century nationalism led to WWI, which led to Hitler's revisionism, which led to WWII, which led to the cold war, which led to Putin's revisionism. The US didn't succeed in keeping out of any of those fights.

    Don’t forget that zionism — Jewish nationalism — played a key role in all of those wars; zionist Jews were most responsible for urging Wilson and FDR to involve USA in WWI and WWII, zionism won those wars, and zionists are keeping USA involved in defense of Jewish zionism.

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  • I was just interviewed by two Temple journalism students, Amelia Burns and Erin Moran, and though they appeared very bright and enterprising, with Erin already landing a job that pays all her bills, I feel for these young ladies, for this is a horrible time to make and sell words, of any kind, and the...
  • @JackOH
    The Vindicator (Youngstown, Ohio).

    A couple people have left a legacy in Youngstown, as these Vindy articles record:

    http://www.vindy.com/traficant/

    http://www.vindy.com/news/2018/may/13/debartolo-foundation-will-host-celebrity-dinner-au/

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    Solon--, the late Congressman Jimbo Traficant is remembered fondly by many folks here, including me. He was a talented, educated guy, and his iconoclastic, junkyard-dog style was deeply felt by him. I knew him only as a constituent on a howdy-do basis, but I knew a close aide of his a little better.

    I think one reason why Jimbo is remembered so well by folks here is that he tried with some success to expose the Emperor's new clothes---our federal government, in Jimbo's view, I think, is not a whit less corrupt, no less racketeerized than some of our corrupt cities. He tapped into some genuine bafflement by a lot of Americans: "Why aren't things better?"

    I'm not sure he left a political legacy in the sense of politicians wanting to imitate his bang-the-drum populism. That takes a lot of energy, and makes a lot of enemies.

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  • @Dan Hayes
    Jack OH:

    A little off-key but would you mind disclosing the name and location of your local newspaper? The reason I'm asking is the rarity of such papers.

    The Vindicator (Youngstown, Ohio).

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    A couple people have left a legacy in Youngstown, as these Vindy articles record:

    http://www.vindy.com/traficant/

    http://www.vindy.com/news/2018/may/13/debartolo-foundation-will-host-celebrity-dinner-au/
    , @Rev. Spooner
    I have put the 'The Vindicator (Youngstown, Ohio)' on my Opera browser speed dial.
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  • In response to Ron Unz’s “The Remarkable Historiography of David Irving”, this note will pick up on and elucidate the reader-comment to that from James N. Kennett, which stated: “It seemed to me that the problem with his work was not the possible inaccuracy of the details that he included – but the things he...
  • @my2cents
    I have one thing to say to Mr. Zeusse....I survived German occupation in the Netherlands. we had Einkwartiering - look it up - The German occupational troops were extremely...yes extremely disciplined....and according to my mother very polite. The Canadian "liberators" robbed us blind!! The word Nazi is an invention by the Zionist/allies.. its definition is that of a bigotted goon/racist/killer. If any of the occupational German troops had ever behaved like the neo Nazi goons we see today they would have been put against the wall and summarily shot. Otto Koch, camp commander, husband of the infamous Ilse Koch was put against a wall and shot for stealing from Jewish inmates and for having killed the Jewish doctor who cured him of venereal disease
    The whole WW2 narrative is an invention. And bless Mr. Irving and Mr Unz for bringing it to the worlds attention. Call me crazy but I'd rather go with those who are willing to risk their own freedom for the sake of TRUTH than going with those who have financially benefited from these grotesque lies by fleecing Germany. I grew up within 7 miles of Germany. I got to know the Germans. I like them. It's people suffered more than anyone else. Talking about war crimes.
    Every night hundreds of RAF bombers flew over my house...sirens, search lights and anti aircraft batteries popping on their way to carpet bomb Germany and specifically targeting Cities, old people/women and children as the men were at the front...Might I suggest that you spend the remainders of your days researching WHO committed the war crimes in WW2?..WHO?? And WHO started EVERY war against Germany since 1870??. EVERY war was against Germany. All started by Britain/France and the US....WHY???
    People in camps died of Typhus as did their guards, as did the German/Polish population in the vicinity of the camps Mr. Zeuss. Is that not bad enough? Obviously we cannot extort money from Germany because of disease but if we change the narrative and turn these unfortunate deaths into "gassing deaths" than we sure can extort money. It's been very lucrative. In Auschwitz far more Polish people died than did Jews because there were far more of them than there were Jews. Shame on you for using these unfortunate victims of war as a tool for extortion, because that is all it is. Shame on those giving Elie Wiesel a Nobel Prize, the greatest fraud ever. He is not the writer of the book "Night". Perhaps you can explain to me why about 67,000 Auschwitz inmates decided to go with their captors rather than being liberated by the Soviets.....Did they all suffer mass amnesia and decided to go with their killers?. Anne Frank, sister Margo and their mother went with them to die of Typhus in Bergen Belsen....while their father Otto Frank remained in Auschwitz hospital recovering from Typhus. Why have a hospital if the intent was to exterminate everyone?. Why have a school, a theater, a swimming pool...Huh? In the meantime Mr. Frank made a bundle out of his daughters book "Het Achterhuis" a fraud from beginning to end, but very lucrative.
    For about 60 years I believed the crap that you are peddling....not comprehending how the people I personally knew could have done such a thing. OR could not have known. Now I know.
    My grandparents had a safe house for Jews and are turning in their grave seeing what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinians. My spunky little grandmother wore a yellow star on her coat with the word "Jood" just to spite the German guards at the checkpoint she had to pass every time she wanted to visit her married daughter. Observing the ethnic cleansing/genocide against the Palestinian people should give you a hint what the Zionists are capable of. I personally survived 3 incendiary bombings by the US with a faulty atlas. I attended school in bombed out buildings. So I want to know WHO started this mess and WHO benefited certainly not Germany.
    Norman Finkelstein wrote the book "The Holocaust Industry" His mother, a camp survivor, would not allow the word "Holocaust" to be mentioned in her house and she is known to have exclaimed now and then "with all the Jews immigrating to Israel/US and any other country WHAT Jews did Hitler kill?"
    Whatever credibility you had is now entirely lost.

    I think I love you.

    Your grandmother passed on that spunk.

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  • I had coffee with a foreign friend a week ago. The subject of Donald Trump inevitably came up and my friend said that he was torn between describing Trump as a genius or as an idiot, but was inclined to lean towards genius. He explained that Trump was willy-nilly establishing a new world order that...
  • @geokat62
    Apologies in advance for this posting this OT comment. But I just came across a Bret Stephens article in the NYT that I just had to share with my fellow Unzers. As most people are aware, most Western countries have been and currently are experiencing an immigration crises.

    Here’s what Bret Stephens has to say about this issue:


    “America’s immigration crisis right now is that we don’t have enough immigrants.”

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/opinion/trump-immigration-reform.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion-columnists
     

    Do you think we’ll ever ever see Bret or any other (((journalist))) at the NYT write an article like this for their beloved Jewish state? I’m not holding my breath.

    Perhaps I spoke too soon, as Bret does, indeed, mention immigration to Israel in his article:


    About 13.5 percent, high by recent [US] history but below its late 19th century peak of 14.8 percent. In Israel, the share is 22.6 percent; in Australia, 27.7 percent, according to O.E.C.D. data, another indicator of the powerful correlation between high levels of immigration and sustained economic dynamism.
     
    Notice how he tries to dupe The Dumb Goyim into thinking that Israel is like every other country that admits immigrants by pretending that 22.6 percent figure is representative of outside groups entering the borders of the Jewish state. However, after a bit of reflection, it is clear that this figure represents the number of Jews who make Aliyah to Israel every year... Bret, you’re a very sneaky man!

    Oh, and unsurprisingly, Bret concludes his fine piece by making the remarkable assertion that immigrants are better citizens than their native born counterparts:


    Finally, immigrants — legal or otherwise — make better citizens than native-born Americans. More entrepreneurial. More church-going. Less likely to have kids out of wedlock. Far less likely to commit crime. These are the kind of attributes Republicans claim to admire.
     
    Do you think we’ll ever see Bret make the same assertions for blacks from African countries trying to enter the Zionist project? Me, neither.

    Did Bret suggest that USA should pay migrants to go back where they came from or be deported, as Israel does?

    Inside Israel’s campaign to deport tens of thousands of African migrants
    African migrants from Eritrea and elsewhere could face indefinite detention if they choose to stay.
    By Miriam Berger Mar 6, 2018, 11:30am EST

    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/6/17059744/israel-deport-african-migrants-asylum

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  • @Philip Giraldi
    You know Chuck about nine months ago here at Unz I wrote an article suggesting that Jews with strong feelings about Israel should honorably recuse themselves from any deliberations over US foreign policy in the Middle East, which should be based on American interests alone. I still believe that. There is no reason why our negotiating team should consist 100% of Jews with passionate attachment to the self-described Jewish state, no reason at all.

    The Saker posted his conversation with Michael Hoffman —

    https://www.unz.com/tsaker/an-interview-with-michael-a-hoffman-ii/

    including this discussion on the topic, Why are the Rabbis Silent on Gaza,
    by Rabbi David bar-Mashon Shiloh

    It’s lengthy, but required viewing for Unz participants and should be shown to the assembled Congress.

    The rabbi drives home the point that Jews are more important than any other consideration. Saker listed the time stamps of some significant statements, but not the rabbis stem-winder conclusion: The people of Gaza are evil; it is not only moral but immoral not to destroy every person in Gaza; it can be accomplished easily–and cheaply! the reb notes: train machine guns on the population until they are all dead, shouldn’t take more than a few weeks. It’s what the British and Americans did to destroy Germany.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=6cePM18Yvp8

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  • The re-nomination (albeit somewhat reshuffled) of the "economic block" of the Medvedev government has elicited many explanations, some better than others. Today I want to look at one specific hypothesis which can be summed up like this: Putin decided against purging the (unpopular) "economic block" from the Russian government because he wanted to present the...
  • @Avery
    {Poland wasn’t liberated, it was occupied by the Soviets}

    There is occupation and there is occupation.
    During the 6-year Nazi occupation of Poland, 1939-1945, Germans murdered about 5.5 million Poles, about half Jewish and half Christians: true or false?

    How many Poles were murdered during the Soviet 'occupation' of Poland (1945-1990)?

    Were both Stalin and Hitler contract-killers?

    FDR funded USSR, working around State Dept and instead delegating Henry Morgenthau,Jr to negotiate w/ Stalin’s people ; friend-of-FDR Putzi Hanfstaengel discovered Hitler, brought him to the attention of US, funded publication of Mein Kampf; Zionists and Jewish bankers inter alia funded Hitler — Germany goes from hyperinflation to thousands of men in Hugo Boss on what, fees Adolf got for speeches on Wall Street?

    So many Eastern European Jews were surplus, useless eaters; elite Jews wanted the herd culled, surplus Jews dead. Elite Jews — German Jews, were herded to safety; the rest, zionists arranged to have them killed. FDR and Churchill were Cesare Borgia and Hitler and Stalin were their Orca.
    Machiavelli was anything but original; the leader he admired most was Moses, who consulted with God himself. At Mt. Sinai God instructed that non-conforming Jews must be killed, the Levites carried out the task: Jews killed Jews thru a divinely-designated agent-killer. Michael Ledeen self-identifies as a “proud Levite.”

    Zionism was a eugenic project: the vision was never to bring ALL Jews to Palestine/Israel, it was to select the best “human material” from a largely Degenerated populace and turn the selected into the New Jew.

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    I have no idea what you are trying to say in this post.
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  • I don't know about you, but I'm getting a little tired of waiting for the Hitlerian nightmare that the corporate media promised us was coming back in 2016. Frankly, I'm beginning to suspect that all their apocalyptic pronouncements were just parts of some elaborate cocktease. I mean, here we are, a year and half into...
  • @nebulafox
    I know this is glib, but comparing Trump and Hitler proves much more about the commentator than anything else.

    comparing Trump and Hitler proves much more about the commentator than anything else.

    It also says something about the falsity of the Hitler meme.

    The propagandists are destroying their own brand and exposing their own mendacity.

    (in the above sentence, mendacity is a snowflake substitute for lying sacks of shityness)

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  • In response to Ron Unz’s “The Remarkable Historiography of David Irving”, this note will pick up on and elucidate the reader-comment to that from James N. Kennett, which stated: “It seemed to me that the problem with his work was not the possible inaccuracy of the details that he included – but the things he...
  • @Wizard of Oz
    PS Do you know of a 1916 book called "Jewish Eugenics" by one Rabbi Reichler? I was pleased to come across it and confirm my view that all sensible upper middle classes (and perhaps all classes generally amongst Jews) had aimed for good "blood" by various proxy measures and that it was Jewish reaction to Hitler's racialist nonsense and euthanasia campaigns that, together with lots of highminded allies, set back Eugenics by 75 years and counting. (J.M. Keynes resigned as Vice-President of the Malthusian Society in 1943....)

    Thank Zeus for Hitler.

    Had he not held power for 12 years — that’s 105,192 hours — no evil thing would have plagued the planet, no evil event occurred, no single human would have been oppressed, no injustice committed.

    But for the 105,192 hours that Adolf Hitler held power in the center of Europe, Leo Strauss would not have been rejected by Paul Tillich, thus would have remained in Germany and been elevated to his rightful place as among the Jewish-Socratic elites who would have ruled the “vulgar German masses” without resentment.

    Had Hitler not held power in Germany for 105,192 hours (more or less), no Jew would have been holocausted, ergo no need for an Israel as a refuge, ergo no billions of dollars/deutschmarks would have been paid out to Jews to form a state and to influence other powers.

    Library shelves would be bare of books bearing false witness. Only Truth would be in the books held for the public enlightenment.

    No 105,192 hours of a Hitler in power, no holocaust survivors, no second generation holocaust survivors, no third generation holocaust survivors.

    Imagine what the world today would look like if there had been no Adolf Hitler in power for 105,192 hours in Germany.

    What would the Jewish people do for an organizing principle?
    How would they shape their identity: what would they pound away at without Adolf Hitler on their anvil for 105,192 hours out of the last 100 years — 876,600 hours more or less?

    For 88% of the last 100 years, Adolf Hitler has NOT been in power.
    What have Jews done with those hours? How have they fared?
    By their behaviour in the 771,408 hours that Hitler has NOT been power, have Jews proved to the world that Hitler was the cause of all the evil that beset them, and that sans Hitler, with Jews given every sympathy and accommodation and financial compensation and advantage and a land of their own, that the complaints of Hitler were due to his evil nature and not to anything Jews did?

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    How is that connected to what I wrote rather than something that you are bursting to say regularly?
    , @Momus
    Did you run that megillah by Wally for approval?
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  • @Incitatus
    “I remember seeing a program featuring a young German historian who had managed to get hold of, anyway listen to or read transcripts of, bugged conversations amongst German officers – mostly senior officers being held in comparative luxury and freedom in an English country house. The Wehrmacht generals couldn’t help knowing about the shooting and burning of Jews because they were Jews and spoke about it candidly, and junior officers (or NCOs: I forget) spoke of participation…”

    You have a good memory. Was he Sönke Neitzel? ‘Tapping Hitler's Generals: Transcripts of Secret Conversations, 1942-1945’, London: Frontline, 2007?

    If so, the venue was Trent House in North London, where captive German officers were secretly recorded freely speaking amongst themselves without attendants. One such was General Dietrich von Choltitz, commander of Paris who refused Hitler’s order to destroy the city and surrendered it intact 25 Aug ’44. He served am Ost prior to being posted to Paris. His words (29 Aug ’44):

    "The worst job I ever carried out - which however I carried out with great consistency - was the liquidation of the Jews. I carried out this thoroughly and entirely."

    Choltitz later (to his credit) added:

    “We all share the guilt. We went along with everything, and we half-took the Nazis seriously instead of saying "to hell with you and your stupid nonsense". I misled my soldiers into believing this rubbish. I feel utterly ashamed of myself. Perhaps we bear even more guilt than these uneducated animals.”

    Wolfram Wette’s ‘The Wehrmacht’ documents institutional racism and criminal complicity. Many – not just the SS – knew about and helped in mass killing. Richard Rhodes ‘Masters of Death’ (the Einsatzgrüppen) is also valuable. Raul Hilberg’ ‘Destruction of the European Jews’ (Three Volumes). Gitta Sereny (‘Into that Darkness’, ‘Albert Speer’). There are dozens of other sources. Chilling indeed.

    Choltitz deserved great credit for saving Paris at risk of his own life. His candor on secret tapes understandably cancelled approbation. He died in ’66. Few others had such candor.

    All of this is to say yes, the Shoah happened. The evidence is overwhelming.

    Words from the perpetrators themselves – understandably rare after the Allies warned crimes would be prosecuted and unconditional surrender demanded - prove it.

    Choltitz, a noble German; he defied orders and saved Paris.

    Someone remind me: who was Choltitz’s Allied counterpart, the noble Allied general who defied orders and refused to bomb Dresden?

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    Or who refused to defend Warsaw in 1939 or Rotterdam in 1940 and avoided bombing of the cities and save many civilians.
    , @Wally
    "Choltitz, a noble German; he defied orders and saved Paris."

    What orders? Show them.

    It's amazing that by simply asking for proof is all that's required to shoot down the Zionist propaganda about WWII.

    www.codoh.com

    , @Incitatus
    “Choltitz…defied orders and saved Paris… who was Choltitz’s Allied counterpart…who defied orders and refused to bomb Dresden?”

    Good question S2C. Not sure of any, sad to say. If they existed, they’ve been suppressed in victor’s accounts (nothing worse than a skunk at the picnic). Dresden was tragic, a milestone proving Giulio Douhet’s thesis:

    “The guiding principle of bombing actions should be this: the objective must be destroyed completely in one attack, making further attack on the same target unnecessary…The complete destruction of the objective has moral and material effects, the repercussions of which may be tremendous…we need only envision what would go on among the civilian population of congested cities once the enemy announced that he would bomb such centers relentlessly, making no distinction between military and non-military objectives… [all] citizens will become combatants, since all of them will be exposed to the aerial offensives of the enemy. There will be no distinction any longer between soldiers and civilians.””
     
    Operation Gomorrah on Hamburg – eight days of bombing beginning 24 Jul ’43 – is more lamentable. 42,000+ civilians killed and 37,000 wounded. Leveled the city. British led. Doesn’t seem connected to Eric Mendlesohn and Dugway Proving Ground ’43 ‘German Village’ tests, but I could be wrong. Operation Meetinghouse on Tokyo Mar ’45 was worse: 100,000+ civilian deaths and over 1 million displaced. Hiroshima and Nagasaki followed.

    1950s ‘Duck-and-Cover’ drills were the legacy of terror Douhet advocated, proven in places like London (1915-18), Guernica ‘37, Warsaw ‘39, Rotterdam ‘40, Hamburg’43, Dresden ‘45, Tokyo ‘45, etc. Students in the most remote rural locales squatted next to a hall locker and crouched under their school desks. Little comfort to we who lived within a mile of a rural Nike base. Teachers told us it would save us, but really? Unless your dad invested in a ridiculous home bomb shelter, inedible canned goods and primitive chemical toilets you became a child cynic. The Cuban Missile Crisis 16-28 Oct ’62 cemented the high water mark of lunacy. Dr. Strangelove (29 Jan 1964) invited return to sanity.

    Choltitz was indeed noble. Worthy of thanks for all (including me) who love Paris. A remarkable exception to the dehumanizing process of war, as was Albert Speer (in his refusal of the Nerobefehl). There may well be many others on both sides.

    Listen to former Secretary of War Stimson:

    “We must never forget, that under modern conditions of life, science, and technology, all war has become greatly brutalized, and that no one who joins in it, even in self-defense, can escape becoming also in a measure brutalized. Modern war cannot be limited in its destructive method and the inevitable debasement of all participants...A fair scrutiny of the last two World Wars makes clear the steady intensification in the inhumanity of the weapons and methods employed by both, the aggressors and the victors. In order to defeat Japanese aggression, we were forced...to employ a technique of unrestricted submarine warfare, not unlike that which 25 year ago was the proximate cause of our entry into World War I. In the use of strategic air power the Allies took the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Germany and Japan...We as well as our enemies have contributed to the proof that the central moral problem is war and not its methods, and that a continuance of war will in all probability end with the destruction of our civilization.”

    -Henry L. Stimson, “The Nüremberg Trial: Landmark of Law” Foreign Affairs 1947
     
    Pretty candid, eh S2C? Can you produce anything comparable from German or Italian WW2 players? He was quoted by Albert Speer in ‘Inside the Third Reich’ (p.520).

    Let’s return to your original question “[what] Allied general…defied orders and refused to bomb Dresden? None known. What Axis generals refused Anschluß, the Müncher Abkommen, invading rump Czechoslovakia and Poland 1939, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, France 1940, North Africa, Yugoslavia, Greece, Crete, Eastern Poland, USSR 1941, and so on?

    Wish they all, like Choltitz, realized there was more to life than another medal. What, S2C, do wish for? Another threshold?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Interesting that you don't engage in the ridiculous blank denials of the work by German Professor of Military History Söne Neitzel and a social psychologist colleague Welzer that undermines so much of the beliefs the Beefheads and the Wallys have been harbouring and ever more desperately defending for decades.

    I did a search for Söne Neitzel - and indeed for his name plus Nuremberg to see if there was even a tincture of truth in the allegation that the evidence had been rejected at Nuremberg (there isn't) - and came up with so much devastating stuff for those who obviously hadn't even heard of the German bestseller "Soldaten" or the Channel 4 documentary based on it.

    Here are some links amongst many, no doubt better and less journalistic ones.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/sep/30/soldaten-neitzel-welzer-holocaust-review

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2226078/We-gunned-English-women-children--great-fun-Newly-published-transcripts-private-conversations-PoWs-prove.html

    Try and say something that, coming from you will only make Wally and Beefhead sad but wiser. And do try and persuade the idiotic Muliegino (who believes that the WTC steel which was precipitately sold as scrap to China was pulverized to molecular dust!) that there were sophisticated talkies and radio drama in the 30s and the recordings of POW that were made and transcribed 1942-1945 really could have been made! Cheers.
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  • @j2
    Wizard of Oz writes:
    "PS I wonder if any of those marched West were put to work?"

    Assuming they were capable of working they were put to work as there was a work duty in Germany and many other prisoners were taken for forced work.

    "As you are putting details together I presume conscientiously allow me just to nitpick over the suggestion that marching prisoners to the west rather than leaving them to await the Soviets negates the intention to kill Jews as such."

    No, but the willingness of the prisoners to go with Germans indicates that they feared Soviet camps more than German camps.

    The issue is that in those times concentration camps, as well as POW camps, had very high death rates. In Finland, where nobody was gassed, 29% of Russian POWs died in POW camps of 64,000, in Northern Finland were German POW camps for Russians, they were smaller and in the beginning better manages, 24% died of 9,000. Germans had some 200 Jews in these camps, they were given dirtier jobs, but they were not killed, though the camp manager was a person who was earlier in Central European camps and is currently known as a butcher. In Soviet POW camps death rates were much higher. Very for German POWs returned. We can consider about 27% as a typical death rate in camps in German camps in the Eastern Europe.

    I calculated from demographic figures that 1 million Jews died in Western Europe and Western Poland outside the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia (where Germans shot 60,000) and Romania (in their camps died some 130,000). Of these some 730,000 died in camps and ghettos (German camps 0.3, Theresienstadt 0.03, work camps and ghettos in Poland, 0.17, Warsaw ghetto uprising 0.008, Chelmno 0.1, Majdanek 0.059, Auschwitz 0.06. Germans transported from the West 1.2M and captured about 1.7M form West Poland. That is 2.9M. The death rate is about 25%, the same as in German run POW camps in Northern Finland, from which we have a good study by Lars Westerlund, 2008, Tammi. You may question the figure for Auschwitz, but as it anyway cannot be higher than 400,000 meaning that the Holocaust narrative is wrong, the best figure is from Red Cross, UK MI5 and Auschwitz death books and I use that estimate.

    When you talk about death marches you mean transportation of prisoners from these camps to Germany. You do not mean transportation of Jews from Sobibor, Treblinka, Belzec or further to the East, since you claim that these Jews were all killed. You mean transportation of prisoners to Germany from camps that had the death rate 25% during the war. This is exactly similar to the transportation of prisoners from German POW camps from Northern Finland to Norway in 1944-45 when Finland had made a peace and had to expel Germans out of Finland. We do not know what happened to the 200 or so Jews, but other prisoners at least were taken to Norway. It is quite possible that they were shot there, or maybe they were taken to Germany. Probably Germans took these prisoners with them because releasing POWs in a war means releasing enemies who will try to kill you. So, they were not given a choice to wait for Soviets.

    But the Jews were given a choice to wait for Soviets, so they were not seen as so dangerous and they were not seen as so essential for economy. Then, why Hitler wanted to move them to the East? Surely not in order to create a Jewish state in Ukraine. Hitler planned German settlements to the Baltic countries and Ukraine. If Hitler had planned to settle Jews to Eastern Europe, he would have settled them around Lublin area, as was one plan, but that plan was fake. Jews were to be moved out of Europe, that is why they were moved in the first place. First Hitler made the Haavara agreement that 60,000 German Jews could take their property in the form of German equipment and build some working infrastructure to Palestine. If they moved elsewhere, they lost most of the property. Then Hitler moved the Jews to camps and transported them to Eastern Europe and did not kill them in Auschwitz, where there were all those crematoria, but wanted to take 1.45M to the Eastern border camps, where there were no such crematoria equipment. What sense does it make?

    But it makes a lot of sense if Hitler wanted to move Jews to Palestine and an accepted, even necessary, part of this messianic plan was that 1/3 or 2/3 would die as a sacrifice, to satisfy the orthodox expectations of the great persecution and cleansing with fire (holocaust), as there had to be. Some 1.3M were taken to Ukraine through the Operation Reinhard camps, and maybe also through Chelmno. They were to be taken to Palestine after the war to create Israel. Indeed, Hitler probably thought he was 1/4 Jewish, which is what the enemy of the Jews should be, a Jew, yet not-a-Jew. Benjamite.

    This is my argument and now you say that after having done a genocide against Jews and almost exterminating them, Germans decided that let's take these remaining Jews to Germany so that nobody will know anything. They did not think that these Jews would testify against them, being so stupid Germans. But as it is that only 25% had died of these western Jews, Germans had nothing to be afraid of. If there was a Holocaust, it was in the East. That is where the Jews were: 1.45M were taken to Operation Reinhard camps and assuming Soviet Jewish figures for 1939 in AJY are correct, there were 4.23M Jews in the East. Together 5.68M. Forget Auschwitz, you have the Jews right here. Of them survived in the SU 2M and some hundred thousands came to DP camps after 1946. We do not know what happened, but assume 1-1.5M were left on the area and Germans shot them. Then Germans killed most of the 1.45M. Then some 0.5M died in Soviet camps. Or it was a bit different.

    Anyway, your comment on death marches potentially being a cover-up for the atrocities is rather far fetched. It did not cover-up anything, instead Germans left the witnesses alive. Where are BTW the remains of Jews, who were burned all the way in improvised furnaces during these marches? I would more like imagine that many escaped during the night.

    But it makes a lot of sense if Hitler wanted to move Jews to Palestine and an accepted, even necessary, part of this messianic plan was that 1/3 or 2/3 would die as a sacrifice, to satisfy the orthodox expectations of the great persecution and cleansing with fire (holocaust), as there had to be.

    In a speech sponsored by his then-patron, Bear Stearns CEO Jimmy Cayne, Michael Ledeen focused on the story of Moses and the Hebrews at Mt. Sinai, when Yahweh instructed Moses to kill Jews who kvetched about returning to Egypt instead of trekking on to the conquest of Canaan.
    The Levites stepped forward to do the job; Moses set them to the task and, Ledeen emphasized, “Jews killed Jews.” Ledeen also reflected that he is “a proud Levite.”

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  • @tac
    Germar Rodolf:

    https://youtu.be/dJ7ydvswxPo

    https://youtu.be/intLxYOzXvc

    https://youtu.be/_PYOpBw6qsI

    https://youtu.be/7lQIn-i-wL4

    https://youtu.be/GBDv__yBYJ0

    https://youtu.be/GN_0Za-FrDE

    Thanks for the videos, tac.

    In the last one, the Ryan Dawson interview @ ANC Podcast, Rudolf offered an insight that alters my understanding of why Germany/Germans behave the way they do: it’s more than falsely imposed guilt. Rudolf said that Germany lives with a sword of Damocles hanging over it; in the last century, at least three attempts have been made to completely exterminate the German people. The German people live in fear of total annihilation; one false move, one exercise of self-determination and sovereignty will be met with extermination.

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    I get a sense that we are both made of a kindred spirit--refuse to live on our knees (as I initially stated of my own motivations) and therefore choose to fight against any and all odds (no matter the cost). If my intuition is somewhat correct please join me here--as well as any other kindred spirit of similar composition--in order to set the record straight against the persecuted who have suffered in the face of this unjust, but quixotic (yet somehow attainable), and unrelenting persecution merely for voicing contrary opinions to what has been accepted as 'fact'... In the end, your children and grand-children, may come to view your contrarian activities as an act of courage, defiance, determination, and the ultimate salvation for their survival--this is the ultimate barometer of success of the species IMO!!!--and therefore honor your spirit in the ultimate aftermath.

    You see...we will all die eventually, but it is our actions and stances while alive and for the benefit of our offspring and theirs, in conjunction to our shared society, that DEFINES who WE are. I, for one, will lay down my own life--without so much as a sigh from a whispering afterthought of my own reservations if it may potentially have so much as has a mere potential to benefit to my offspring and likewise fellow-citizens, but maybe this may not be necessary yet. Perhaps I am alone in my convictions, but that is not the point. It is the spirit and fight in this present life that soley determines the character of a being who is simply a gust-of-wind in the scheme of life.

    Let us make a stand against what we know and believe is evil, subversive, and illegitimate because when we stand united and in unison in sufficient numbers there is scarcely a force so united and so determined against our uncompromising, unsettling, unwavering resolve that stands even a chance of energy required to defeat our ranks! What say you and all others...the time has come to make a stand?!?!

    BTW, what is your opinion of this author and this most recent piece (I've already made my take this piece very clear in my previous comment)?

    , @tac
    But you see, and as Ernst Zundel espoused: "Get off of your knees Germany".

    Indeed, it is waaaaay past the time Germany got off its collective feet and made a stand against this nemesis! There is NO WAY for this nemesis to calculate and foreshadow--and therfore have any suitable countermeasures against the incalculable, unforseen, and random eventualities and/or permutations of any set of outcomes to hold such a sword of Damocles with ANY CONFIDENCE of its confidence of said damage.

    It is therefore incumbent for these people to either make the stand--in the real face and possibility of their own demise--or continue to live meager insigificant lives (much like some low life form like flies) ... What kind of a life is it in the end if it is simply a shadow of its former self: see Plato's 'Allegory of the cave'
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  • The German soldiers of World War II have often been portrayed, both during the war and in the decades since, as simple-minded, unimaginative and brutish. Hollywood movies and popular U.S. television shows have for years contrasted confident, able and “cool” American GIs with slow-witted, cynical and cruel Germans. “Propaganda is an inescapable ingredient of modern...
  • @Wally
    What Italian "slave laborers"? Laughable.

    You're right, you "don't know much about it".

    Italy was a German ally.

    www.codoh.com

    Italy was a German ally.

    — until it wasn’t.

    Those wily Italians have seldom been on the losing side of a war, by the simple expedient of changing sides.

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    Granted the end of the war for Italy wasn't a shining example of it's very long history but they did lose the war. They made a deal with the Allies to get slightly better terms than the Germans, but that's about it. If Hitler had been assassinated in '44 the Germans would have done the same thing.
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  • @anon
    Finally some truth about WWII. They say history is written by the victors, and the victors are now running our media and Hollywood. All Hollywood movies about WWII portrayed German soldiers as a bunch of nameless faceless drones who were there simply to be slaughtered by heroic Allied forces. Just a matter of time before we start getting movies about WWII where all the heroes are Jews, gays, blacks, females and tranny soldiers.

    They say history is written by the victors

    “They” and We really ought to stop saying that: what the victors wrote was not history in any real sense, it was a continuation of the propaganda used to gin up war in the first place.

    David Irving used the metaphor of a flywheel to explain how this works:

    -Propaganda is necessary at the inception of a war to fire up men to kill other men — otherwise an unnatural act;

    -Throughout the hot war, propaganda — lies by another name — are used (like crystal meth) to keep men fighting and to keep the home folks cheering them on and handing out white feathers to ‘cowards’

    -At war’s end, the flywheel is spinning so powerfully that no one has the ability or the will to burn his hand by stopping the machinery

    BUT, said Irving, 50 years on, emotions should have cooled and the quest for cool objectivity should take hold, to practice real history.

    Historian Thomas Fleming made much the same argument in a conversation with Brian Lamb focused on Fleming’s “New Dealer’s War.” Fleming said:

    “. . .[A]s you get older, you begin to look back on things, not through a haze of memory, . . .[especially] if you go into the business of being an historian, and you start to think, `Well, what was he [FDR] really like? What was the whole thing all about?’ Now that it’s become so far back that . . . now I think we’re just getting to the end of the influence of memory on history, and we’re getting into the pure history of World War II. I think this book is a start in that direction.

    Michael Kammen, my good friend of mine from Cornell, wrote a wonderful book called the “Mystic Chords of Memory,” in which he speculates on the impact of memory in history, and he maintains that it takes about 100 years for somebody . . . for a generation or a country to get to the point where they can look back on a gigantic experience, like World War II or the Civil War, objectively.”
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?164982-1/the-dealers-war


    I almost deleted the last phrase in that quote — “. . . or the Civil War . . .” because I wanted to focus on WWII, and to opine on how certain forces in US and world historiography work to sustain the “memory”, or propaganda-version of WWII — we know who those forces are.

    Then I thought about Charlottesville, and how that imbroglio encapsulates the project to sustain a distorted memory of the Civil War AND of World War II, and that is was and remains managed by the same people who surrounded FDR to produce the propaganda to gin up war (see i.e. Benjamin Ginsberg, How the Jews Defeated Hitler.

    “America’s Jews and establishment Protestants” have had a good run for their (propaganda) money, but it’s time to get down to real history.

    As the David Boaz of CATO Institute, a public policy think tank, said in another conversation with Thomas Fleming,

    “History is important when you are studying public policy. It’s important to know what worked and what didn’t, what might work in the future and it’s important to question some of the conventional wisdom about the past.”

    iow
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  • In response to Ron Unz’s “The Remarkable Historiography of David Irving”, this note will pick up on and elucidate the reader-comment to that from James N. Kennett, which stated: “It seemed to me that the problem with his work was not the possible inaccuracy of the details that he included – but the things he...
  • @utu
    A curious case of Grynszpan. After occupation of France in 1940 Grynszpan ends up in German custody where he is kept. Germans do not take advantage of it. Soviets would have staged a show trial and gained PR. Apparently Germans did not have talents for it. They even acquitted several suspects in Reichstag Fire trial. This would have never happened in the USSR or the post 9/11 America.

    It was believed that eventually he was executed but it seems that Grynszpan survived the WWII while in NAZi custody.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/18/herschel-grynszpan-photo-mystery-jewish-assassin-kristallnacht-pogrom

    NB: The story of Grynszpan resurfaced in media relatively recently when Russian ambassador was murdered in Turkey insinuating that killing Russian ambassadors was kind of OK like killing the NAZI diplomat by Grynszpan.

    The Jewish propaganda machine turned Herschel Grynspan from murderer to hero.

    Dorothy Thompson led the charge, publishing and broadcasting heart-rending defenses of the “persecuted young man;” creating a fund for his defense.

    USHMM slobbers over Thompson’s broadcasts and writing

    https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans-and-the-holocaust/personal-story/dorothy-thompson

    Thompson worked for NBC, which Benjamin Ginsberg discloses in “How the Jews Defeated Hitler,”

    “The increasingly anti-German and interventionist perspective presented by the film studios in 1940 was echoed by important segments of the news media, particularly the radio networks. Two of the most important networks, CBS and NBC, embodied the pro-British, anti-German alliance between America’s Jews and establishment Protestants. These networks were owned by Jews, while their most important news broadcasters and journalists were such establishment figures as Edward R. Murrow and William Shirer. “

    ( plus les choses changent, plus elles restent les mêmes American Pravda: Breaching the Media Barrier RON UNZ • October 24, 2016 )

    from Jewish Currents:

    “Dorothy Thompson, known as “The First Lady of American Journalism,” offered an impassioned defense on NBC radio of Herschel Grynszpan, the Polish-German Jewish assassin of Nazi diplomat Ernst vom Rath, on this date in 1938.

    Grynszpan’s crime was in retaliation for the suffering and deportation from Germany of his parents (among thousands of other Polish Jews); the Nazis used the assassination as their pretext for launching Kristallnacht, a two-day nationwide pogrom in which 30,000 Jewish men were arrested.

    Thompson’s broadcast, only four days after Kristallnacht, was heard by millions of Americans and helped to mobilize public opinion against the Nazi regime. Thompson, who was not Jewish, had interviewed Hitler in 1931 and described him as “inconsequent and voluble, ill poised and insecure. He is the very prototype of the little man.” The Nazis ejected her from Germany three years later. After the war, she renounced the pro-Zionist opinions of her younger days, became a sharp critic of Israel, and wrote and made a film about the plight of Palestinian refugees.”

    from Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA):

    Dorothy Thompson Group to Bring Grynszpan’s Parents to America
    April 2, 1939 PARIS (Mar. 31)
    Herschel Grynszpan, Polish Jewish youth who last November killed a German Embassy official here, expressed delight today when news reached him in his cell that the American Journalists Defense Committee headed by Dorothy Thompson had decided to bring to America his parents, who are among several thousand deportees from Germany still marooned in the Polish frontier town of Zbonszyn.

    Meanwhile, official French investigators have returned from Germany where they checked young Grynszpan’s statements and studied his records. Their return concludes the investigation process, although some documents which they brought still require translation from German to French.

    Grynszpan’s lawyers today predicted that his trial will not take place “for a good several months” and certainly not in May as had been previously forecast. They were pleased to learn of the plan to bring his parents out of Zbonszyn as this would enable them to testify during the trial.

    Central Jewish organizations which received the American group’s request to contact the elder Grynszpans immediately transmitted the news to Warsaw, where they must apply for visas. Doubt has been expressed that the visas will be quickly granted since the Polish quota to the United States is filled for several years ahead. At the same time it is hoped that the American consul at Warsaw may consider the special circumstances of the case and grant visas to the aged couple.

    AND

    January 1, 1939
    SAO PAULO, Brazil (Dec. 30)
    Calling on Brazilian intellectuals to support Herschel Grynszpan as a symbol of Jewish persecution, the young Brazilian Poet. . ., has announced that he will donate 50 per cent of the proceeds of this new book,. . . to the American Journalists’ Defense Fund for the young Polish Jew who killed a German Embassy official in Paris. The fund was started by Dorothy Thompson.

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  • @Eric Zuesse
    To exterminate whom? Which individuals, This plowing through church-archives was in 1933-34, long before the Nuremberg Laws, which required this information. Of course, nobody except Hitler himself knew then what use he would make of this information. He was very secretive, even to Himmler, Goebbels, Bormann, etc., everything on only a need-to-know basis, so that only he knew what was going to be happening next. He was an extremely gifted leader; he had that natural gift. He understood how to achieve what he wanted. HE WAS NO 'WEAK LEADER'.

    This plowing through church-archives was in 1933-34, long before the Nuremberg Laws, which required this information.

    Yes, before Nuremberg laws, but AFTER Louis Brandeis’s directive that “all Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 German Jews . . .”

    Rabbi Stephen Wise records that conversation w/ Brandeis in his autobiography, The Challenging Years; he notes that it took place “within a fortnight of the Fuhrer’s ascent to chancellorship” that is, by Feb. 14, 1933. It is significant that he stated a specific number of German Jews, since tens of thousands of Polish and Russian Jews had taken refuge in Germany to escape from turmoil in those places. Grynszpan and his family were just such Polish Jewish would-be refuge-seekers.

    German ambassador to USA Hans Luther explained that in addition to the over-representation of Jews in administrative posts, it was those alien, or non-German Jews that were especially troublesome in Germany in the Weimar years:

    [Luther] asserted that limitation of Jewish influence in Germany was being conducted with the greatest possible consideration toward the old native Jewish families who, he said; had proven themselves good Germans and indicated that it was directed against the Eastern European Jews who had overflooded the country since the War.

    https://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts

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    “all Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 German Jews . . .”
     
    Some clever fellow quipped:
    "Of the 2.4M Jews under Nazi occupation, 3.8M claimed Holocaust reparations. Sadly, the remaining 6M were lost."

    I don't remember who that fellow was, but the Holocaust narrative's numbers have never stacked up. What does stack up are the numbers from camp records and the Red Cross. They're rarely mentioned, of course.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Indeed, the present situation in the USA resembles, in my opinion, the Weimar Republic
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  • @Anon
    "jewry provoked Kristallnacht". You are kidding aren't you? You sound as you have joined a special closeted too-many-books section of the tinfoil hat brigade.

    One deficit in Irving’s “Hitler’s War” is the almost complete absence of discussion of the role of zionism/zionists in extending World War I and in starting and manipulating World War II.

    One of Irving’s two significant references to “zionists” occurs in a footnote, relative to Kristallnacht. The comment is not conclusive but suggestive:

    “Some writers now argue that the Nazis had fallen into a Zionist trap. The Haganah officials with whom Adolf Eichmann negotiated on his trip to Palestine in November 1937 had hinted that it would serve their interests if things were made hot for Germany’s Jews, to accelerate Jewish emigration to Palestine. It deserves comment that Grynszpan, although a destitute youth, was able to reside in a hotel in 1938 and purchase a handgun for 250 francs, and that his defense counsel Moro Giafferi was the best that the money of the International League against Anti-Semitism (LICA) could buy; LICA’s Paris office was around the corner from Grynszpan’s hotel.” fn, p. 142

    We know from Francis Nicosia’s “Zionism and Antisemitism in Nazi Germany” that Haganah had created and dispatched to European cities, including in Germany, Mossad el-Aliyeh Bet, zionist agents whose task was to assist German Jews in leaving Germany, breaking the British blockade and settling in Palestine. Mossad el-Aliyeh functioned in full view, and often in cooperation with, Gestapo; Nicosia notes that one Mossad headquarters was across the street from a Gestapo office.
    It’s not a stretch to conjecture that Mossad played some role in inciting the rioting that followed the provocation of Grynszpan’s assassination of vom Roth.

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    A curious case of Grynszpan. After occupation of France in 1940 Grynszpan ends up in German custody where he is kept. Germans do not take advantage of it. Soviets would have staged a show trial and gained PR. Apparently Germans did not have talents for it. They even acquitted several suspects in Reichstag Fire trial. This would have never happened in the USSR or the post 9/11 America.

    It was believed that eventually he was executed but it seems that Grynszpan survived the WWII while in NAZi custody.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/18/herschel-grynszpan-photo-mystery-jewish-assassin-kristallnacht-pogrom

    NB: The story of Grynszpan resurfaced in media relatively recently when Russian ambassador was murdered in Turkey insinuating that killing Russian ambassadors was kind of OK like killing the NAZI diplomat by Grynszpan.
    , @Anon
    No one can deny the ruthlessness of some Zionists but apart from the fact that the British at the time were not allowing significant immigration to Palestine I wonder how you think the tiny "Mossad" of the 30s would have got the Nazi thugs to perpetrate Kristallnacht.
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  • The leap from here:

    Hitler commanded this first step in the year he came into power, 1933, and the Christian clergy executed it with pride.

    to Here:

    And yet even today, so-called “historians” say that Hitler didn’t have execution of the Jews in mind from the very start

    is without basis in fact or logic..

    a. re “Hitler, in only his private statements, had defined “Aryan,” as pureblooded Christian.
    So we should disregard all the business about “blonde hair and blue eyes = Aryan” as propagandistic nonsense, and “Aryan supremacy” as nonsense, since “Hitler. . . had defined “Aryan,” as pureblooded Christian?”

    b. You go to the historian-like trouble of providing a documentary reference for Hitler’s definition of Aryan, but where is the documentation for the conclusion that “Hitler had execution of Jews in mind from the very start?”
    Does the U S Constitutional requirement that a person who seeks to become president of the United States prove, through birth records, for example, that he is indeed an American citizen warrant the conclusion that the U S Constitution, by seeking to eliminate non-Americans, “has in mind the execution of non-Americans from the very start?”
    No, of course not; that is ludicrous.

    c. Moreover, your critique, and most of the comments, and indeed Irving’s “Hitler’s War” all fail to record or fully consider for its implications, in general, the dominant role of zionism in the European wars of the 20th century; and specifically, Louis Brandeis’s directive to Rabbi Stephen Wise of ~Feb. 14, 1933, that “all Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 German Jews must leave . . . no Jew should remain . . .”

    Mulegino’s comment @ #67 chronicles the holocaust narrative from a starting point in 1939:

    Once the alleged event is defined in factual terms, it is falsifiable. The core of the false narrative is this:
    During the period of 1939-1945, National Socialist Germany- . . .

    But Brandeis issued his directive, which Rabbi Wise, his son, James Waterman Wise published Swastika in May, 1933; Samuel Untermeyer (radio broadcast, Aug. 1933) and indeed “International Jewry” in collaboration [ Judea Declares War on Germany, . . . Jews of all the world unite . . . Mar. 23, 1933, hastened to execute: in speeches, publications, protest rallies, a Declaration of Economic War on Germany intended to destroy German exports upon which Germany's economy depended (i.e. the economic war was intended to be and was in fact an existential threat to the German people), all heaping on vilification of Hitler and the NSDAP with the goal of provoking such instability in Germany, and animus against Jews in Germany, that German Jews would leave their German homes and flee to Palestine, where their wealth was sorely needed; or to USA, whence zionism had removed its center of power.

    The two crucially important bits of information from the above are:
    First, Louis Brandeis, head of zionists world-wide, directed that Jews must leave Germany; and second, that directive and the provocative acts intended to implement the movement of Jews from Germany were issued and carried out beginning early in 1933, well before the alleged inception of a holocaust of Jews in 1939-1945.

    Escobar, @ #85, mentioned holocaust historian and Holodomor-denier Timothy Snyder. In a

    Snyder made this stunning observation:

    In history you can’t really say something happened in 1933 because something was going to happen in 1945. You can only explain things that happened in 1933 by events up to and including 1933. It’s very tempting to apply later events . . . but we can only understand historical events in terms of the causes that bring them about. [@ 20 min ]

    There was no holocaust in 1933.
    A holocaust of Jews could not have been the motive for Brandeis’s directive that Jews leave Germany, nor for the numerous provocations zionist Jewish leaders deployed to vilify and provoke the German government.
    (Jeffrey Herf has conceded that the opposite was the case: that Germany was justified in “persecuting” Jews, i.e. between 1933 and 1939, in retaliation for zionist-Jewish provocations. https://www.c-span.org/video/?192852-1/the-jewish-enemy-nazi-propaganda )

    If, as you claim, Eric Zuesse, by “the winter of ’33″ Hitler had instructed church leaders to sort out “Aryans,” who were by Hitler’s definition “Christians,” there is far more hard evidence to warrant that NSDAP was acting in cooperation and collaboration with zionist directives than there is to support an exercise in mind-reading that that activity indicated that Hitler . . . didn’t have [had] execution of the Jews in mind from the very start, or if he did, his mind was in complete synchrony with those of the leaders of zionism and International Jewry.

    Hitler did NOT start the war, zionist Jews started the war, for zionist purposes.

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  • I cannot believe that I am reading this ‘Hitler’ shit in anno domini 2018.

    Professor Emeritus at the US Naval Post-Graduate School, RHS Stolfi, published the definitive book, the ultimate book, the final solution Hitler book in 2011. I suggest you all peruse it.

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    Sorry, I believe you meant to say Common Era 2018.
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  • @Erebus
    One sometimes wonders why no serious, professional historian has ever touched the Holocaust third rail. If one was mid-career at (say) Harvard, wouldn't one turn over every rock to prove it happened, guaranteeing rock star status in the History field? You'd be Faculty Dean in a heartbeat, get a seat on the Board, probably at more than one university, and travel the world with a retinue of sycophants giving lectures for sums only Bill Clinton dreams of.

    Given the claimed scale and close proximity in time, it should be a "Gimme". We aren't talking about the Peloponnesian Wars here. We're talking about a process involving millions of humans and enormous resources taking place on a continental scale within living memory. Why hasn't any sharp young History professor gone after the prize?

    Or have they, and and quietly buried their failures lest their career come to an untimely end?

    One sometimes wonders why no serious, professional historian has ever touched the Holocaust third rail.

    Eh?

    It’s already been proved that the Nazis built the ideological and physical apparatus to imprison, enslave murder and attempt to exterminate European Jewry.

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    OK- I believe you.

    Why did the National Socialist German Workers Party build the ideological and physical apparatus to imprison, enslave, murder, and attempt to exterminate European Jewry?

    For the hell of it? It's a pretty involved systematic approach, this apparatus of which you wrote.
    , @Mulegino1
    Any country that has a penal system and prisons has the "physical apparatus" to imprison a segment of its population.

    I fail to see how the Jews were enslaved. They were interned as enemy aliens and conscripted for labor- there was a critical labor shortage at the time, since most of Germany's peacetime workforce was serving in the Wehrmacht. This occurred during the greatest war in recorded history, which the international leadership of Jewry was instrumental in bringing about.

    The number of claimants for reparations exceeds the number of Jews under German control. If the Germans really had wanted to murder all of the Jews of Europe, they would have done so, and there would be only a handful of survivors, not the millions alive after the war. The fact is that few Jews were actually murdered by Germans just for being Jews. There were revenge pogroms carried out by the local population in places like Riga, but this was in response to the disproportionate Jewish presence in the Soviet government and the secret police. It had nothing to do with the Germans per se.

    On the other hand, many Jews were executed by the Germans on the Eastern Front, but not because they were Jews, but because they were commissars or involved in partisan activity.
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  • I recently was asked to speak at an online conference entitled Deep Truth: Encountering Deep State Lies. My panel addressed Understanding Zionism: Deconstructing the Power Paradigm and my own topic was How Jewish Power Sustains the Israel Narrative. Working on my presentation, I was forced to confront the evolution of my own views on both...
  • @Sam Shama
    [Drive past any synagogue in the DC area & you’ll see stretched in front of it a banner proclaiming, “We support Israel . . .”]

    Demonstrably not true. They are certainly not against Israel (do you expect them to be?) but they are not in love with Netanyahu/Likud either.

    If you have any friends that are Conservative-liberal, ask them what is happening in their synagogues, what are the themes of their rabbis' sermons today. They are all, in a coordinated way speaking up against Likud policies.

    Spent just a minute to figure out how long Likud has been in power in Israel: appears to be since about 1999, so almost two decades.

    The banners have been displayed for at least the last 7 years.

    Passing curious that Jews would advertise to the public, i.e. on the outside, support for “Israel,” that has been Likud over the entire span of the display of the signs, and which the passing public can be reasonably construed to interpret as support for the whole Israel package, while preaching on the inside, to a Jewish-only congregation, that it is opposed to support for Likud-dominated Israel.

    That’s like putting a sign on the church that says “Mass at 9:00 and 11:00″ but only after you attend go at 9:00 do you realize the service is Islamic.

    Doesn’t fly, Sam.

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    My point was only that not all synagogues display external signs in support of Israel. Basically, everyone endorses the seminal reasons for the existence of the state of Israel yet none would like to see it take a turn to orthodoxy. Moreover, the message has been clearly received, from the most affluent Manhattan synagogues [Park Ave, a conservative and Emanu-el, a reform] to the humblest in Detroit, that Likud policies need to change, and change dramatically.

    There is even a growing Reconstructionist movement, which I oppose; its agenda being overtly political, anti-Israel to an extent, while spending precious little effort on spirituality.

    The Israeli Right is getting increasingly religious, nationalistic (jingoistic, in truth) and intolerant. But it is still the smaller subset. There is no doubt this trend shares DNA with its global counterpart and, in no small measure aided by the enormous financial outlays made by Adelson, Saban and a few others, through their media instruments. It hasn't escaped the Israeli right that they co-sponsor a vision with the global right, in Asia, Europe and the US. This is a deplorable trend.

    The U.S. and Israel wanted the PA, a pliant partner, to prevail in the Gaza elections. They lost, and US-Israel found themselves in a bit of a conundrum: the democratic process yielded a party adamant in its object to destroy Israel, one way or the other (the 'other', is a demographic takeover when the true desire isn't feasible). Consider now the fact that the PA would like nothing better than a wipeout of Hamas. Hamas on its end receives critical support from Qatar and Iran via entities in Jordan. Therein lies the rub. The people in Gaza it should be clear by now, are truly suffering but can do little to dislodge Hamas. To add insult to injury is their acute awareness of the truly massive improvements in the WB [look at Shamir's article] which Israel has not been shy to point out to the populace.

    The US Conservative-Reform coalition wants the relationship with Israel to be on a more normal footing. The Orthodox do not. The Conservatives and the Orthodox disagree on Hamas as well. The Conservative-liberals want Hamas defeated and replaced by the PA, so that the same economic policies may benefit Gaza as they do the WB today. The Orthodox really want Hamas in situ; to carry on with its usual provocations of the Israeli Right in the hopes that Israel will once again retake Gaza. Hamas is obviously cleverer than that, choosing to sabotage the electrical grids, create fuel and water shortages, i.e, cause general public suffering, all for the consumption of the Western press. The PA, at times rather surreptitiously keeps sending money to Hamas. Why? They do not want the strife in Gaza to end, and Hamas at the Helm of the chaos. They do not want Hamas to have any positive image in the WB. So, things are a bit complicated. Netanyahu has been distancing himself from a number of Orthodox agenda, so I believe a retaking of Gaza is moot.

    Ideally, I'd like Hamas to be gone, replaced by the PA and things can then restart on a pragmatic footing. This is also Bennet's vision, or so I believe.

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  • @Marshalldoc
    This is a false conflation of 'Jews' & 'Judaism' with Zionism & Zionists (Jewish & Christian) despite his disclaimer. Nowhere do Jews, the 'Jewish Lobby' or 'Israel Lobby' attempt to promote Judaism in America over any other religion - when, if ever, did anyone attempt to open a public meeting with the 'Shema'? Their single issue is Israel; and only from a Zionist perspective. His dismissal of the power of the Christian Zionists as a key component of the 'Israel Lobby' indicates, IMO, a fixation on 'Jews' rather than on the real culprit: Zionism. It's true that Jewish oligarchs exert massive and disproportionate influence; but for what? To promote Judaism? Not a chance; as they themselves state; their issue is not Judaism; it is Israel and only Israel. And, as the posts above so amply demonstrate the issue is not about Jewish power, it's about 'Jews'... i.e.; traditional Jew-hating anti-Semitism. No real concern for justice for Palestine needed... only hatred.

    This is a false conflation of ‘Jews’ & ‘Judaism’ with Zionism & Zionists (Jewish & Christian) despite his disclaimer.

    Drive past any synagogue in the DC area & you’ll see stretched in front of it a banner proclaiming, “We support Israel . . .”

    If there’s a conflation of “Jews . . . Judaism” with zionists & zionism, it starts with the Jews in the synagogue conflating themselves with the Jewish state.

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    [Drive past any synagogue in the DC area & you’ll see stretched in front of it a banner proclaiming, “We support Israel . . .”]

    Demonstrably not true. They are certainly not against Israel (do you expect them to be?) but they are not in love with Netanyahu/Likud either.

    If you have any friends that are Conservative-liberal, ask them what is happening in their synagogues, what are the themes of their rabbis' sermons today. They are all, in a coordinated way speaking up against Likud policies.

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  • – thus the Google characterises the land of proud Polacks. For a Pole, this definition hurts more than the three partitions of his country. Why do they stop at Poland, he’d cry out. Why Google describes Instead of “England is a European country on an island in the North Sea, known for its Jamaican Rastas”?...
  • @Rob Veggett
    ISRAEL SHOULD PAY FOR RESCUING THEIR JEWS DURING WW2

    Israel, although created after the war, usurps the right to compensation for all Jews murdered during the war, but does not share with them, but takes over these compensations for the "Holocaust Industry".

    In this connection, Israel should assume responsibility for the Jewish commies' pre-war and post-war crimes and the Poles should issue Israel with a bill for these atrocities, which are dozens, if not hundreds of times, greater than the crimes of some Polish social scum on Jews during WW2.

    In the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Jew left its walls, he prayed that he would not meet:

    - Jewish law enforcement ghetto policeman from the Judenrat, because he usually lost his life,
    - but a navy blue Polish policeman, because they let Jews go free.

    Poles saved over 100,000 Jews during the war. Of all nations, the most Poles are awarded with the medal of "the Righteous Among the Nations of the World".

    Therefore, Poles have the full right to demand that the Jews pay 10 million zlotys for every rescued Jew and that this is not too excessive an amount.

    It gives the sum:
    100,000 x PLN 10,000,000 = PLN 1,000,000,000,000 (say one thousand billion zlotys) - say PLN 1 (Polish) BILLION (English trillion) = (250 billion euros, and even more in US dollars).

    Therefore, Poles have the full right to demand that the Jews pay 10 million zlotys for every rescued Jew and that this is not too excessive an amount.

    Fascinating concept.

    This note from Winston Churchill to his foreign minister, recorded in Churchill’s History of WW2, is related:

    Escape of Jews from Greece
    14 Jul 1944

    ” This requires careful handling. It is quite possible that rich Jews will pay large sums of money to escape being murdered by the Huns. It is tiresome that this money should get into the hands of E L A S, * but why on earth we should go and ague with the United States about it I cannot conceive. We should take a great responsibility if we prevented the escape of Jews, even if they should be rich Jews. I know it is the modern view that all rich people should be put to death wherever found, but it is a pity that we should take up that attitude at the present time. After all, they have no doubt paid for their liberation so high that in future they will only be poor Jews, and therefore have the ordinary rights of human beings.” https://www.amazon.com/Second-World-War-Winston-Churchill/dp/039541685X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528920627&sr=8-1&keywords=churchill+world+war+ii

    After teasing out Churchill’s Swiftian pretensions, it’s difficult to avoid the perception that he approached the topic, and the group, with cavalier disdain.

    Nevertheless, the germ of a pattern emerges: Rich Jews were willing to pay for their removal from a scene of conflict.

    * Greek nationalist resistance group. The British did not support ELAS but did support other Greek partisans; eventually, ELAS and those others coalesced.

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  • @Sam Shama
    [Nobel Prize-winning history by the “greatest man in the modern age” who had inside information of the most specific and intimate sort.]

    There are two immediate inferences to be drawn.

    First, no sane study of the time and events would ascribe to Churchill the title of "insider" to German information and the vice committed by the Nazis.

    Second, it is more than a bit odd for one who suggests without reservation that Churchill was an inveterate liar, to then propose the same man's writing as proof of absence of said events.

    Surprisingly weak, make that pathetic, arguments, Sam.

    First, I’ve posted this quote before:

    Holocaust denial will remain a fringe issue. The documentation is secure in its veracity and overwhelming in its volume. If anything, today’s school children are in danger of thinking that Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin went to war against Hitler because of what was happening to the Jews. http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/auschwitz-revisited/

    If the bolded statement is true, then isn’t it curious that Churchill paid relatively little attention to “what happened to Jews”?

    You wrote:
    re:

    no sane study of the time and events would ascribe to Churchill the title of “insider” to German information and the vice committed by the Nazis.

    As to the first part, according to Martin Gilbert, Churchill was briefed on top-secret information from Bletchley/Enigma as well as air reconnaissance; for example, Gilbert wrote:

    Throughout the autumn and winter of 1940, the search for indications of a German invasion remained the top priority of the Bletchley eavesdroppers. On 10 October 1940, Churchill was shown summaries of decrypts of German Air Force top-secret signals that had revealed, among other German instructions, the appointment in the first week of October of German Air Force officers to the embarkation staffs at Antwerp, Ostend, Dunkirk and Calais, where air reconnaissance—another indispensable arm of Intelligence—revealed the presence of what could would well have been invasion barges. https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest-hour-149/churchill-and-intelligence-golden-eggs-the-secret-war-1940-1945-part-i-britain-and-america/

    A web resource for British schoolchildren to learn about Churchill makes this claim:

    [Churchill] remained in close personal contact with senior members within the Zionist movement in Britain and paid personal attention to the plight of the Jews of Europe throughout the war. Once war broke out and Churchill became Prime Minister, he received information and reports about the atrocities of the Holocaust. British Intelligence forces were also monitoring the Germans’ secret messages and uncovering the truth behind the ‘final solution’.http://www.churchillarchiveforschools.com/themes/the-themes/key-events-and-developments-in-world-history/could-britain-have-done-more-to-help-the-jews-in-the-second-world-war/background-information

    Call me crazy, but the way I stack up the Jenga blocks,
    a. The British had inside information of German activities;
    b. Churchill had access to and made use of that information;
    c. According to the British website, “Churchill and British intelligence had information and reports about the atrocities of the Holocaust . . . the ‘final solution’ ” well before Eisenhower flew Hollywood studio film crews to

    Pretty little phrase, that — “the vice committed by the Nazis.”

    If the British knew about these “vices,” why didn’t they stop it?

    second part — later

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  • @Wizard of Oz
    My long philosemitic habit makes me regret having to conclude that you are quite wrong. You really shouldn't weaken your case or respect for your cognitive ability by picking away at a fragment of PG's extended exposition of his case - and getting it wrong. You omission of what came earlier in PG's paragraph was a substantial misrepresentation when you are accusing him of deceitful quoting. And, really, wasn't he just choosing one of many examples of Jews telling, approving or celebrating the truth of Jewish power, achievement, wealth and influence?

    Reluctantly, over a few years of reading PG, and often quibbling, I am beginning to accept that he is not the common or garden anti Semite but one who makes a plausible connection between Israel firsters and ruinous American ME policy. I would like to think you and Sam Shama could muster sound argument against him but I haven't seen it yet. Mind you I cringe a bit at "Jewish power" because I don't think of most American Jews as active supporters of Israel's excesses - of which I think the recent murders of Gazans is indefensible. (Rather than the sophistical and technical arguments of counsel in a recent case in Israel I would fall back on the simple morality of homicide law in which the defence of self-defence has to be credible). Please stick to good arguments which can pass your own critical blue penciling.

    My long philosemitic habit makes me regret having to conclude that you are quite wrong.

    Great intro to your spot on comment, Wiz.

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  • @utu
    God that your brought up Ernst Nolte. His wiki entry is pretty good:

    In Der europäische Bürgerkrieg, Nolte put forward five different arguments as a way of criticizing the uniqueness of the Shoah thesis. These were as follows:

    There were other equally horrible acts of violence in the 20th century.[76] Some of the examples Nolte cited were the Armenian genocide; Soviet deportations of the so-called “traitor nations,” such as the Crimean Tatars and the Volga Germans; British “area bombing” in World War II; and American violence in the Vietnam War.[77]

    Nazi genocide was only a copy of Soviet genocide, and thus can in no way be considered unique.[77]

    Nolte argued that the vast majority of Germans had no knowledge of the 'Holocaust while it was happening[77] Nolte claimed that the genocide of the Jews was Hitler’s personal pet project, and that the Holocaust was the work of only a few Germans who were entirely unrepresentative of German society[77] Contradicting the American historian Raul Hilberg, who claimed that hundreds of thousands of Germans were complicit in the Holocaust, from high-ranking bureaucrats to railway clerks and locomotive conductors, Nolte argued that the functional division of labour in modern society meant that most people in Germany had no idea of how they were assisting in genocide.[78] In support of this, Nolte cited the voluminous memoirs of German generals and Nazi leaders, such as Albert Speer, who claimed to have no idea that their country was engaging in genocide during World War II.[78]

    Nolte maintained that to a certain degree Nazi anti-Semitic policies were justifiable responses to Jewish actions against Germany, such as Weizmann’s alleged 1939 “declaration of war” on Germany.[78]

    Finally, Nolte hinted at the possibility that the Holocaust had never happened at all.[79] Nolte claimed that the Wannsee Conference never took place, and argued that most Holocaust scholarship is flawed because most Holocaust historians are Jewish, and thus “biased” against Germany and in favour of the idea that there was a Holocaust.[79]
     

    “In his essay Ernst Nolte discusses the “so-called” annihilation of the Jews (in H.W. Koch, ed. Aspects of the Third Reich, London, 1985). Chaim Weizmann’s declaration in the beginning of September 1939 that the Jews of the world would fight on the side of Britain, “justified” – so opined Nolte – Hitler to treat the Jews as prisoners of war and intern them
     
    Norman Davies about Nolte:

    Ten years later, in The European Civil War (1987), the German historian Ernst Nolte (b. 1923) brought ideology into the equation. The First World War had spawned the Bolshevik Revolution, he maintained, and fascism should be seen as a "counter-revolution" against communism. More pointedly, since fascism followed communism chronologically, he argued that some of the Nazis' political techniques and practices had been copied from those of the Soviet Union. Needless to say, such propositions were thought anathema by leftists who believe that fascism was an original and unparalleled evil.
     

    The late J Rufus Fears, “historian and scholar” who has written and lectured extensively on Churchill, whom Fears assesses to have been the greatest man of modern times, also praised Churchill’s writing, especially his History of World War II, for which Winston was awarded a Nobel Prize.

    Try this at home:

    search for “gas chambers” in Winnie’s WWII:

    https://www.amazon.com/Second-World-War-Winston-Churchill/dp/039541685X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528764214&sr=8-1&keywords=churchill+history+of+world+war+ii

    0 results for gas chambers

    Try “holocaust”
    0 results for holocaust

    How about “extermination camp”
    0 results for extermination camp

    Genocide:
    “0 results for genocide

    “Death camp” appears twice, but appears to refer to the Asian theatre.

    Nobel Prize-winning history by the “greatest man in the modern age” who had inside information of the most specific and intimate sort.
    Doesn’t mention holocaust.

    What are we to think?

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    [Nobel Prize-winning history by the “greatest man in the modern age” who had inside information of the most specific and intimate sort.]

    There are two immediate inferences to be drawn.

    First, no sane study of the time and events would ascribe to Churchill the title of "insider" to German information and the vice committed by the Nazis.

    Second, it is more than a bit odd for one who suggests without reservation that Churchill was an inveterate liar, to then propose the same man's writing as proof of absence of said events.

    , @Anonymous
    That is a good point. The reason Hitler's War attracted so much hostility when it was published was that it made no mention of the Holocaust. It didn't defend the Holocaust or deny the Holocaust but simply ignored it. (I do know later editions explicitly denied it.) In Churchill's day historians could do this without controversy. By the 1970s however, it was expected that every book about WWII devote some attention to the Holocaust.
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  • Iran’s radical Marxist cult Mohajedeen e Khalq, better known by its acronym MEK, is somewhat reminiscent of the Israel Lobby’s American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in that it operates somewhat in the shadows and is nevertheless able to punch well beyond its weight by manipulating politicians and understanding how American government functions on its...
  • @Brendon O'Connell

    I intuit Brendon O. might be young and privileged to have traveled & learn things about ZUSA-designated “rogue” nations.
     
    No. I'm 47. A former Comprehensive Registered Nurse and the last nine years are a movie.

    I spent three years in maximum security for defending the Palestinans, had my bones broken and completed a long hunger strike and got a personal letter to then President Mamoud Armedinejad where in 2012 I asked for political asylum from prison in Western Australia to which the reply came back..."With open arms".

    Sometimes we make very bad assumptions about people online.

    Unlike the majority - my life is an open book for anyone that wants to read.

    https://isolatebutpreserve.blogspot.com/2018/04/what-happened-with-high-court-case.html

    https://isolatebutpreserve.blogspot.com/2017/02/brendon-oconnell-left-iran-on-30.html

    Did the hunger strike bear useful fruit?

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  • To date, 62 Palestinians have been shot dead in the Gaza Strip by the Israeli army and over 5,500 wounded by gunfire. Their crime: protesting the loss of their ancestral homes in the West Bank. Here was an example of Gandhi-style passive resistance that failed. Israeli sniper teams just fired at will at the protesters,...
  • @Momus

    As I said, you are creating a scenario in which there are many tons of ash and bone to be accounted for.
     
    It's very easily accounted for. Pulverised incinerated human remains are about 600 sets per cubic metre. Mixed with sand and spread out it becomes the soil or was used as road surfacing. A decent sized truck can carry 30 m3; the ashes of 15000 to 18000 people.

    Given the extreme lengths the Nazis went to hiding evidence of their murdering leaving large masses of remains to be easily found was not going to happen often.
    Any way it is only deniers counting now in a futile, pointless effort to somehow diminish the Nazi atrocities. Everyone else accepts that there was a Jewish extermination program run by the Nazis and huge numbers were murdered.

    heh!
    The original Jewish-only roads –

    or how is it that you know that the “ashes” in those roads are Jewish ashes? DNA? Six-star shaped ashes? Tattoo?

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  • @anarchyst
    There is a large difference between targeting government officials and ordinary civilians (who should be "off limits" and not "collateral damage". With the jews, civilians were purposely targeted...
    Regards,

    Jews were directly complicit in targeting German civilians in the Allied terror bombing of Germany.

    US Department of Interior documents spell it out dispassionately –

    http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/habshaer/ut/ut0500/ut0568/data/ut0568data.pdf

    Erich Mendelsohn and Hollywood studios — run exclusively by Jews at the time — collaborated with United States Air Force and Standard Oil Corp (Rockefellers) to design “German Village” in the Utah desert.

    The purpose for German Village (and Japanese village, adjacent but no longer standing), built to exactly replicate workers’ housing in Berlin, was to devise, practice, rehearse and perfect the “most efficient way to create firestorms ” to destroy German (and Japanese) cities and to kill the maximum number of German civilians — including, you will note on page 16, “young families with infants in cribs.”
    – shortcutting the difficulty of bashing babies against the rocks ala Ps 137.)

    Before his collaboration on the incineration of German babies, Mendelsohn, “the Jewish architect,” designed and built homes in Rehoboth for Chaim Weizmann and for the Schocken family.
    After the war, and while Germans were still recovering what was left of hundreds of thousands of German civilians, many of them reduced to “logs” if not ashes, Mendelsohn went on to design a number of synagogues and Jewish community centers.

    To this day Erich Mendelsohn, “the Jewish architect,” is revered by Jewish people everywhere. It is not known if any of the synagogues are furnished with lampshades made of the skin of German babies, or if Hannukah oil is made of fat rendered from German working-class civilians, but the documentation of his collaboration in the commission of crimes against humanity is, as Momus would say, abundant, and as authoritative as U S Department of Interior itself..

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    I'm saving that info. Thanks for commenting here.
    , @Incitatus
    “Jews were directly complicit in targeting German civilians in the Allied terror bombing of Germany.”

    Italian general Guilio Douhet is directly responsible for inventing modern terror bombing in 1921. It's used by Axis and Allies alike.

    “The guiding principle of bombing actions should be this: the objective must be destroyed completely in one attack, making further attack on the same target unnecessary…The complete destruction of the objective has moral and material effects, the repercussions of which may be tremendous…we need only envision what would go on among the civilian population of congested cities once the enemy announced that he would bomb such centers relentlessly, making no distinction between military and non-military objectives.”

    “In general, aerial offensives will be directed against such targets as peacetime industrial and commercial establishments; important buildings, public and private; transportation arteries and centers; and certain designated areas of civilian population as well. To destroy these targets three kinds of bombs are needed – explosive, incendiary, and poison gas – apportioned as the situation may require. The explosives will demolish the target, the incendiaries set fire to it, and the poison gas bombs prevent fire fighters from extinguishing the fires.”

    -Guilio Douhet ‘The Command of the Air’ 1921 [emphasis added]

    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Documents/2013/April%202013/0413keeperfull.pdf
     
    Turns out poison gas was unreliable and unnecessary. One could turn cities to kindling and destroy them with Douhet’s multi-stage attack using better incendiaries. “Feuerzauber” (“magic fire”). Firefighters couldn’t put them out. How did they know? They tested them. Not, like Erich Mendelsohn, on an unpopulated dessert stage set in 1943. Turn the clock back six years to 26 April 1937.

    Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen, field commander of the Condor Legion, coordinates German and Italian air forces in Spain. Attached to Mussolini’s Air Force 1929-32, he’s well versed in Douhet’s creative total destruction theory. He orchestrates a test on well-populated Guernica on market day. The first Dornier drops twelve 110-lb bombs at 4:30 pm. The second wave (Italians) miss the bridge (destruction would have prevented escape). Three more waves (German) continue the attack until 6:00 pm, inflicting “insufferable punishment”. The coup de grâce arrives a half-hour later in three waves (German, Ju 52s). In all, 40-50 tons of bombs are dropped to shatter buildings, and ‘feuerzauber’ (eletron tubes filled with thermite) set them alight. 70% of Guernica is destroyed, the same percentage as Hiroshima and Nagisaki. At least 300 civilians are killed.

    The test is a success! Pass out strudel and cannoli! No need for stage sets in the dessert. Who needs a stinkin stage set!

    As Douhet predicted:

    “No longer can areas exist in which life can be lived in safety and tranquility, nor can the battlefield any longer be limited to actual combatants. On the contrary, the battlefield will be limited only by the boundaries of the nations at war, and all of their citizens will become combatants, since all of them will be exposed to the aerial offensives of the enemy. There will be no distinction any longer between soldiers and civilians.”
     
    No need to be modest S2C. It's OK to mention the Italian genius responsible for Dresden ’45 tactics. And the Axis test on Guernica and 300 civilians. Why give Erich Mendelsohn and Hollywood Jews all the credit? They were six years late. By that time the Axis had run many more ‘tests’ on European cities.

    PS. Richthofen’s diary entry: "Each Italian performance is utterly untrustworthy…And these are supposed to be our allies!”
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @RobinG
    Well, IDK where that link was supposed to go, but not arrived at Ó Colmáin.

    Ó Colmáin’s article was sent in an email with no link to another source. I searched Ó Colmáin’s FB but did not find that article there.

    oh — the linked article is still in Moderation; MOD might be concerned about authority to re-publish: I specifically requested and received permission to post on Unz Forum.

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  • U.S. threats to crush Iran and North Korea may yet work, but as of now neither Tehran nor Pyongyang appears to be intimidated. Repeated references by NSC adviser John Bolton and Vice President Mike Pence to the "Libya model" for denuclearization of North Korea just helped sink the Singapore summit of President Trump and Kim...
  • Pat,
    I’ve read your books and articles and long admired your clear-eyed writing and calling out the corruption of the neocons, yet you’ve shown uncharacteristic naivete in this article, which is one of the worst I’ve seen from you in the past 5 years. Others have covered some of your unusual blind spots, in particular your laughable assertion of US “rewards” for Iranian capitulation in the form of Western aid and US diplomatic support– seriously? After Trump just unilaterally withdrew from an accord requiring a decade of diplomacy and Pompeo basically demanded complete capitulation? The US has no credibility to “guarantee” anything.

    But even more seriously, Pat, you worst failure and blind spot with this article is the way you bizarrely attribute a level of determination and competence to the Trump Administration that does not exist. You blindly assume that the EU will simply cave to Bolton and Pompeo’s utterly impossible demands, while failing to consider several very obvious reasons why the EU, even with the weakest leaders no better than vassals, need do no such thing:

    — Trump has gutted and continues to gut the US State Dept, so there’s no “enforcement system” in place to enforce even the primary sanctions against Iran leave alone the secondary sanctions against dozens of economically powerful countries which are unbelievably complex.

    — There is no substitute for Iranian oil on the market this time, very different from, say, 2014. Not only is OPEC cutting back, Venezuela is an utter basketcase, US sources are running dry (the price of fracking is that it quickly wrecks the productive capacity of an oil shale bed), meanwhile demand from China and even more critically, India is spiking fast. The global economy and esp. the USA (all those auto loans and student deb ton top of the $21 trillion national debt) cannot tolerate a prolonged spell of oil above $100 a barrel and a nastier recession than even 2008 which is exactly what sanctions on Iran would bring. In fact US law itself requires that sanctions be imposed only when the lost oil output can be made up for. It can’t, and the Trump admin has barely even begun to deal with this.

    — More the point Trump is be-set with chronic attention deficit disorder, and he ultimately cares far more about beating his many domestic enemies (the “fake news” media, both Dems and rival Republicans, Mueller, whatever official he plans to fire next) than any foreign policy “priority”, Iran included. Within a few months, Iran will have faded off from the radar screen esp. with the midterms, and since Trump has no coherent policy for Iran to begin with, there’s about zero chance of Team Trump getting anywhere near a coherent or disciplined enough policy to manage secondary sanctions against the EU or anybody else.

    — On foreign policy alone, North Korea and Venezuela are both going to be occupying more and more of the Trump Admin’s attention and military assets, the N. Korea flash-point alone means that Trump and Pompeo can’t afford the laser focus they’d need on Iran to make even a multilateral sanctions approach work, leave alone unilateral sanctions.

    — The US military is painfully over-stretched after 15 years of continuous ongoing war, and failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan esp. Our navy ships are colliding with merchant shipping and killing our own sailors, our warplanes either won’t fly or are falling out of the sky from exhausted pilots who are leaving the service, our Special Forces are being bled dry from casualties and suicides from non stop deployments.. and we’re supposed to be planning an invasion of Iran with it’s 80 million people and mountain-laden territory? Not without a draft, and not even Trump at his most deluded could try to pull that off.

    — Pat Buchanan brings up the EU, Russia and China as major players in deciding what happens with proposed US sanctions on Iran, but forgets perhaps the most important player over the longer term– India. India has very close relations with Iran, a good deal of trade and investment but more important, is totally dependent on Iran’s oil, much more than EU is. China is too to a degree, but the Chinese do have some wiggling-room with their deals with other Mideast sources, Russia and many African countries as suppliers, where China has heavily invested. Not the case with India, which completely dependent on Iranian oil with little substitute for India’s growing economy and it’s large population. Narendra Modi and all other Indian politicians know this– even if it wanted to, India cannot go without Iranian oil supplies, otherwise India would face a certain economic collapse, followed by popular unrest and a horrifically bloody breakdown in societal order that would make China’s Tai’ping rebellion seem like a picnic, not to mention breaking up India further into about a dozen independent statelets. This was probably Trump, Bolton and Pompeo’s biggest miscalculation, beyond the resistance of the EU or the scornful dismissal of Russia and China of US sanctions threats. India cannot be moved, because it’s not a “choice” for India, there is no option for India but to keep buying Iran’s oil. Which in fact Iran is already now doing– but in rupees rather than dollars. Which leads us to another twist:

    — Pat, please, please get this into your head once and for all– the world does not depend on the US dollar anymore, and certainly not the petrodollar anymore. This means that even if the Trump Administration magically developed a streak of competence and determination, re-staffed the State Dept and got the US private sector on board, there’s in reality very, very little the US can do esp. if Trump and Pompeo stupidly try out unilateral sanctions, aka. sanctioning the world. India again, is paying for Iran’s oil in rupees. Russia is doing deals with Iran in rubles and barter, China’s petroyuan is now trading at unprecedented levels at the Shanghai exchange and would do so even more amid US sanctions, Europe is buying Iran’s oil in Euros, Turkey is buying in lira, and it’s very easy for everybody to use specialized financial institutions that avoid the US dollar in general. The US government deciding to the use the dollar as a weapon for sanctions was one of the all time stupidest foreign policy decisions ever by a hegemonic power. Every single country that’s had a reserve currency, dating back to the Portuguese in the 1400′s, got that status because they were smart enough to disassociate their geo-political policy from the use of the currency itself which was “just business” even among enemy nations. Now the US, by way over-reaching in using the US dollar as a policy weapon– even against Europeans (and with Iranians for that matter, who never attacked us even after we overthrew their democratic elected leader Mossadekh in the 1950′), is all but guaranteeing it’s swift demise as the world’s reserve currency. And with $21 trillion in debt, that gives the US even less leverage to impose massive sanctions without angering the international bond-holders and sovereign funds we depend on to buy US deb and keep our economy afloat.

    What it all adds up to Pat, is the US has a much, much weaker hand than at any time since WWII, esp. for these kinds of dumb unilateral sanctions that have no world support, and even very little support in the US– another thing the EU realizes, that Trump does not have the backing of the American people for this needless fight vs Iran, and if he pushes it too far, will be kicked out of office. The EU doesn’t even need to “assert itself” to break free from US vassalage and oppose the US sanctions. It can do so passively, just let Trump impotently lash out without the competence, staff or means to actually follow up the secondary sanctions, and allow it’s companies to profit from business with Iran while still continuing to trade with the US. Only a fool would cave to Trump, Bolton and Pompeo here.

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    Trump has gutted and continues to gut the US State Dept, so there’s no “enforcement system” in place to enforce even the primary sanctions against Iran leave alone the secondary sanctions against dozens of economically powerful countries which are unbelievably complex.
     
    FDR ignored the State Department; most of his war policy was run by and through Henry Morgenthau Jr's office at Treasury.
    Similarly, the sanctions are not so much sanctions as a combination of law fare and blackmail controlled by US Treasury, thru the office/tactic originating with Stuart Levey, The Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI)

    Levey is credited with developing and executing financial strategies to counter threats to U.S. national security and protect the integrity of the international financial system.[5][6] He has also been recognized for his efforts in leading the U.S. government’s efforts to disrupt financial networks supporting terrorist organizations; developing and implementing financial measures against proliferators of weapons of mass destruction; and playing a central role in U.S. strategies to pressure the regimes in North Korea, Iran and elsewhere.[7][8][9][10][11] He is credited, in particular, with designing the financial strategy that resulted in tremendous pressure on Iran's economy and its isolation from the international financial system.[12]

    One of Levey’s innovations was harnessing the private sector to enhance the effectiveness of governmental measures. He “led an effort to convince foreign banks to cease conducting business with Iran until that country agreed to comply with international banking standards. By showing companies and banks that doing business in Iran has financial and diplomatic repercussions, he has convinced corporations to cut off business with Iran.” [13] TFI’s efforts received support from both Republicans [14] and Democrats [13][15] Levey, a Bush appointee, was asked to remain in his position by the Obama Administration.
     
    The real threat that US (Treasury) imposes on European states is denial of access to US financial and other markets, as well as SWIFT.


    When Levey left to take the post of legal director at HSBC, he handed over the director's job overseeing TIF to his former law partner, David Cohen, and then to another partner in the same law firm, Adam Szubin.

    Meanwhile, Chicago native Richard Goldberg, now at Foundation for Defense of Democracy, did his part for the tribe while an aide to the governor of Illinois: Goldberg engineered the legislation by which Illinois divested its funds from companies doing business with Iran. Goldberg also worked as on Illinois senator Mark Kirk's staff, in which position Goldberg was

    "“instrumental in the deployment of a U.S. missile defense radar to the Negev Desert—the first-ever full-time deployment of U.S. forces in Israel.”[6]

    In 2013, Goldberg was reported to have played a leading role in the Republican campaign in Congress opposing President Obama’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, former Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel. Roll Call reporter Meredith Shiner wrote that Goldberg was the source of numerous emails circulated among congressional staffers targeting Hagel.[7]

    “Richard Goldberg, a deputy chief of staff in Kirk’s office who also focuses on foreign policy issues, has been sending as many as three emails a day to the (staffers’) list, which CQ Roll Call confirmed includes reporters, Republican policy staffers and some Democrats,” she wrote. “The emails typically include links or text of articles that cast Hagel—a former Republican senator from Nebraska and President Barack Obama’s secretary of Defense nominee—in a negative light.

    “The chatter within Republican circles, however, is that Kirk’s office has been taking a lead role in the campaign against Hagel’s confirmation. Two sources said they expect Kirk will be more vocal about his concerns in the coming days.”[8]

    FDD’s Clifford May wrote that FDD executive director Mark Dubowitz worked with Goldberg to promote sanctions targeting the Central Bank of Iran, the SWIFT financial messaging service, and entire sectors of the Iranian economy. In a 2016 article, May relayed a story by Jay Solomon, chief foreign affairs correspondent for the Wall Street Journal. “Eventually, Mr. Dubowitz, working with Sen. Kirk’s then-deputy chief of staff Richard Goldberg, came up with a ‘financial bomb’—a Belgium-based financial firm called SWIFT—’which hosts the international computer network that facilitates virtually every banking transaction in the world through an extensive messaging and financial tracking system.’ The Obama administration opposed expelling Iran from SWIFT but ‘Congress once again overrode the White House’s concerns and unanimously passed’ legislation in 2012 that ‘de-SWIFTed’ Tehran. By 2013, such measures, ‘were crippling Iran’s economy.’” https://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/goldberg-richard/
     
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  • @Berregamo
    Pat,
    I've read your books and articles and long admired your clear-eyed writing and calling out the corruption of the neocons, yet you've shown uncharacteristic naivete in this article, which is one of the worst I've seen from you in the past 5 years. Others have covered some of your unusual blind spots, in particular your laughable assertion of US "rewards" for Iranian capitulation in the form of Western aid and US diplomatic support-- seriously? After Trump just unilaterally withdrew from an accord requiring a decade of diplomacy and Pompeo basically demanded complete capitulation? The US has no credibility to "guarantee" anything.

    But even more seriously, Pat, you worst failure and blind spot with this article is the way you bizarrely attribute a level of determination and competence to the Trump Administration that does not exist. You blindly assume that the EU will simply cave to Bolton and Pompeo's utterly impossible demands, while failing to consider several very obvious reasons why the EU, even with the weakest leaders no better than vassals, need do no such thing:

    --- Trump has gutted and continues to gut the US State Dept, so there's no "enforcement system" in place to enforce even the primary sanctions against Iran leave alone the secondary sanctions against dozens of economically powerful countries which are unbelievably complex.

    --- There is no substitute for Iranian oil on the market this time, very different from, say, 2014. Not only is OPEC cutting back, Venezuela is an utter basketcase, US sources are running dry (the price of fracking is that it quickly wrecks the productive capacity of an oil shale bed), meanwhile demand from China and even more critically, India is spiking fast. The global economy and esp. the USA (all those auto loans and student deb ton top of the $21 trillion national debt) cannot tolerate a prolonged spell of oil above $100 a barrel and a nastier recession than even 2008 which is exactly what sanctions on Iran would bring. In fact US law itself requires that sanctions be imposed only when the lost oil output can be made up for. It can't, and the Trump admin has barely even begun to deal with this.

    --- More the point Trump is be-set with chronic attention deficit disorder, and he ultimately cares far more about beating his many domestic enemies (the "fake news" media, both Dems and rival Republicans, Mueller, whatever official he plans to fire next) than any foreign policy "priority", Iran included. Within a few months, Iran will have faded off from the radar screen esp. with the midterms, and since Trump has no coherent policy for Iran to begin with, there's about zero chance of Team Trump getting anywhere near a coherent or disciplined enough policy to manage secondary sanctions against the EU or anybody else.

    --- On foreign policy alone, North Korea and Venezuela are both going to be occupying more and more of the Trump Admin's attention and military assets, the N. Korea flash-point alone means that Trump and Pompeo can't afford the laser focus they'd need on Iran to make even a multilateral sanctions approach work, leave alone unilateral sanctions.

    --- The US military is painfully over-stretched after 15 years of continuous ongoing war, and failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan esp. Our navy ships are colliding with merchant shipping and killing our own sailors, our warplanes either won't fly or are falling out of the sky from exhausted pilots who are leaving the service, our Special Forces are being bled dry from casualties and suicides from non stop deployments.. and we're supposed to be planning an invasion of Iran with it's 80 million people and mountain-laden territory? Not without a draft, and not even Trump at his most deluded could try to pull that off.

    --- Pat Buchanan brings up the EU, Russia and China as major players in deciding what happens with proposed US sanctions on Iran, but forgets perhaps the most important player over the longer term-- India. India has very close relations with Iran, a good deal of trade and investment but more important, is totally dependent on Iran's oil, much more than EU is. China is too to a degree, but the Chinese do have some wiggling-room with their deals with other Mideast sources, Russia and many African countries as suppliers, where China has heavily invested. Not the case with India, which completely dependent on Iranian oil with little substitute for India's growing economy and it's large population. Narendra Modi and all other Indian politicians know this-- even if it wanted to, India cannot go without Iranian oil supplies, otherwise India would face a certain economic collapse, followed by popular unrest and a horrifically bloody breakdown in societal order that would make China's Tai'ping rebellion seem like a picnic, not to mention breaking up India further into about a dozen independent statelets. This was probably Trump, Bolton and Pompeo's biggest miscalculation, beyond the resistance of the EU or the scornful dismissal of Russia and China of US sanctions threats. India cannot be moved, because it's not a "choice" for India, there is no option for India but to keep buying Iran's oil. Which in fact Iran is already now doing-- but in rupees rather than dollars. Which leads us to another twist:

    --- Pat, please, please get this into your head once and for all-- the world does not depend on the US dollar anymore, and certainly not the petrodollar anymore. This means that even if the Trump Administration magically developed a streak of competence and determination, re-staffed the State Dept and got the US private sector on board, there's in reality very, very little the US can do esp. if Trump and Pompeo stupidly try out unilateral sanctions, aka. sanctioning the world. India again, is paying for Iran's oil in rupees. Russia is doing deals with Iran in rubles and barter, China's petroyuan is now trading at unprecedented levels at the Shanghai exchange and would do so even more amid US sanctions, Europe is buying Iran's oil in Euros, Turkey is buying in lira, and it's very easy for everybody to use specialized financial institutions that avoid the US dollar in general. The US government deciding to the use the dollar as a weapon for sanctions was one of the all time stupidest foreign policy decisions ever by a hegemonic power. Every single country that's had a reserve currency, dating back to the Portuguese in the 1400's, got that status because they were smart enough to disassociate their geo-political policy from the use of the currency itself which was "just business" even among enemy nations. Now the US, by way over-reaching in using the US dollar as a policy weapon-- even against Europeans (and with Iranians for that matter, who never attacked us even after we overthrew their democratic elected leader Mossadekh in the 1950'), is all but guaranteeing it's swift demise as the world's reserve currency. And with $21 trillion in debt, that gives the US even less leverage to impose massive sanctions without angering the international bond-holders and sovereign funds we depend on to buy US deb and keep our economy afloat.

    What it all adds up to Pat, is the US has a much, much weaker hand than at any time since WWII, esp. for these kinds of dumb unilateral sanctions that have no world support, and even very little support in the US-- another thing the EU realizes, that Trump does not have the backing of the American people for this needless fight vs Iran, and if he pushes it too far, will be kicked out of office. The EU doesn't even need to "assert itself" to break free from US vassalage and oppose the US sanctions. It can do so passively, just let Trump impotently lash out without the competence, staff or means to actually follow up the secondary sanctions, and allow it's companies to profit from business with Iran while still continuing to trade with the US. Only a fool would cave to Trump, Bolton and Pompeo here.

    Trump has gutted and continues to gut the US State Dept, so there’s no “enforcement system” in place to enforce even the primary sanctions against Iran leave alone the secondary sanctions against dozens of economically powerful countries which are unbelievably complex.

    FDR ignored the State Department; most of his war policy was run by and through Henry Morgenthau Jr’s office at Treasury.
    Similarly, the sanctions are not so much sanctions as a combination of law fare and blackmail controlled by US Treasury, thru the office/tactic originating with Stuart Levey, The Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI)

    Levey is credited with developing and executing financial strategies to counter threats to U.S. national security and protect the integrity of the international financial system.[5][6] He has also been recognized for his efforts in leading the U.S. government’s efforts to disrupt financial networks supporting terrorist organizations; developing and implementing financial measures against proliferators of weapons of mass destruction; and playing a central role in U.S. strategies to pressure the regimes in North Korea, Iran and elsewhere.[7][8][9][10][11] He is credited, in particular, with designing the financial strategy that resulted in tremendous pressure on Iran’s economy and its isolation from the international financial system.[12]

    One of Levey’s innovations was harnessing the private sector to enhance the effectiveness of governmental measures. He “led an effort to convince foreign banks to cease conducting business with Iran until that country agreed to comply with international banking standards. By showing companies and banks that doing business in Iran has financial and diplomatic repercussions, he has convinced corporations to cut off business with Iran.” [13] TFI’s efforts received support from both Republicans [14] and Democrats [13][15] Levey, a Bush appointee, was asked to remain in his position by the Obama Administration.

    The real threat that US (Treasury) imposes on European states is denial of access to US financial and other markets, as well as SWIFT.

    When Levey left to take the post of legal director at HSBC, he handed over the director’s job overseeing TIF to his former law partner, David Cohen, and then to another partner in the same law firm, Adam Szubin.

    Meanwhile, Chicago native Richard Goldberg, now at Foundation for Defense of Democracy, did his part for the tribe while an aide to the governor of Illinois: Goldberg engineered the legislation by which Illinois divested its funds from companies doing business with Iran. Goldberg also worked as on Illinois senator Mark Kirk’s staff, in which position Goldberg was

    ““instrumental in the deployment of a U.S. missile defense radar to the Negev Desert—the first-ever full-time deployment of U.S. forces in Israel.”[6]

    In 2013, Goldberg was reported to have played a leading role in the Republican campaign in Congress opposing President Obama’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, former Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel. Roll Call reporter Meredith Shiner wrote that Goldberg was the source of numerous emails circulated among congressional staffers targeting Hagel.[7]

    “Richard Goldberg, a deputy chief of staff in Kirk’s office who also focuses on foreign policy issues, has been sending as many as three emails a day to the (staffers’) list, which CQ Roll Call confirmed includes reporters, Republican policy staffers and some Democrats,” she wrote. “The emails typically include links or text of articles that cast Hagel—a former Republican senator from Nebraska and President Barack Obama’s secretary of Defense nominee—in a negative light.

    “The chatter within Republican circles, however, is that Kirk’s office has been taking a lead role in the campaign against Hagel’s confirmation. Two sources said they expect Kirk will be more vocal about his concerns in the coming days.”[8]

    FDD’s Clifford May wrote that FDD executive director Mark Dubowitz worked with Goldberg to promote sanctions targeting the Central Bank of Iran, the SWIFT financial messaging service, and entire sectors of the Iranian economy. In a 2016 article, May relayed a story by Jay Solomon, chief foreign affairs correspondent for the Wall Street Journal. “Eventually, Mr. Dubowitz, working with Sen. Kirk’s then-deputy chief of staff Richard Goldberg, came up with a ‘financial bomb’—a Belgium-based financial firm called SWIFT—’which hosts the international computer network that facilitates virtually every banking transaction in the world through an extensive messaging and financial tracking system.’ The Obama administration opposed expelling Iran from SWIFT but ‘Congress once again overrode the White House’s concerns and unanimously passed’ legislation in 2012 that ‘de-SWIFTed’ Tehran. By 2013, such measures, ‘were crippling Iran’s economy.’” https://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/goldberg-richard/

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  • After being sworn in for a fourth term, Vladimir Putin departed the Kremlin for Annunciation Cathedral to receive the televised blessing of Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church. The patriarch and his priests in sacred vestments surrounded Putin, who, standing alone, made the sign of the cross. Meanwhile, sacred vestments from the Sistine Chapel...
  • @redmudhooch
    The MIC needs to find new things to manufacture. War isn't profitable to the vast majority of Americans, quite the opposite. It is very profitable to those in charge though. The CIA/MIC needs to be throughly scaled back, or shut down. The International bankers thrown in prison, all the looted money returned to the people it was stolen from. These idiots are making America and the world miserable, somethings gonna break soon. It won't be good for anyone.

    9/11 truth, punishment for those that did it, would solve a lot of these problems.

    Surely you’ll enjoy General Mike Hayden’s chat at his alma mater

    http://edtech.msl.duq.edu/Mediasite/Play/a1d1ef9359374a34950087326a5ad2271d

    “If we had stopped 9/11 on 9/11, it would have happened another time . . . Americans were not aware, they never would have tolerated TSA. Also, there was the money: the intelligence agencies were inadequately funded. We needed 9/11 so that Americans would embrace the importance and threat of the war on terror.”

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    So we had to foster terrorism to fight terrorism.
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @Momus
    He was Dutch German on his mothers side.

    This is a reasonable explication of circumstances:

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/11/22/specials/ambrose-atrocities.html?mcubz=1

    LOL

    Stephen Ambrose, plagiarist extraordinaire, attempting to undo his blurb for Bacque’s exposé of good ole’ Ike’s post-war crimes.

    What’s even more pathetic about hack historiographer Ambrose’s plagiarism is that he cribbed the work of another hack historiographer, Thomas Childers.
    Childers is shameless; he can be counted on to shed a tear when speaking of the holy holohoax.

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    Yes, yes. None of which affects the veracity of the information in that comprehensive takedown of fraud Bacque and his defamation of Eisenhower.

    The link provided is an excellent synthesis and indicates the practical difficulties that flowed from the overwhelming defeat of Nazi Germany.
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  • @RobinG
    Sander Hicks was also a participant in the Mashhad conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSmLyb6RD2k

    And Sander is a signer of the 9/11 truth leaders’ letter to Iran.
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/05/24/iran-letter/

    Gearóid Ó Colmáin participated in the International New Horizons conference in Iran and also signed the 9/11 letter.

    Iranian scholar of Islam Blake Archer Williams, whose essay on Sacred Communities was featured on The Saker’s blog, sent along Ó Colmáin’s essay on his thoughts on the Conference.

    Read it here: https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/meks-money-sure-cant-buy-love/#comment-2350238

    Likewise, as Ó Colmáin noted, E Michael Jones attended the Conference in Mashad and signed the 9/11 letter.

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    Well, IDK where that link was supposed to go, but not arrived at Ó Colmáin.
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  • Iran’s radical Marxist cult Mohajedeen e Khalq, better known by its acronym MEK, is somewhat reminiscent of the Israel Lobby’s American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in that it operates somewhat in the shadows and is nevertheless able to punch well beyond its weight by manipulating politicians and understanding how American government functions on its...
  • @memaguire
    In Islamic practice, there are three sources used to derive sharia, or Islamic law: the Quran, the sunna (or practice) of the Prophet and ijtihad, the individual reasoning of the jurisprudent (or intellectual striving--word derives from same Arabic root as "jihad".) In the Sunni world, there are four recognized schools of Islamic law: Hanifi, Shafi'i, Maliki, and Hanbali. Of these, the Hanifi school is the most liberal and is practiced in modern Egypt, while the Hanbali is the strictist and gave rise to Wahhabism. During the reign of the Buyids (945-1045), a Persian Shiite ruling family in Baghdad, a specifically Shiite branch of law was derived which came to be regarded as the "fifth" branch of Islamic law. In this branch of law, the customs and sayings of Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet and his descendants were also considered as legitimate sources of law. Another major difference between Sunni and Shiite Sharia is that for the Sunnis, the Gate of Ijtihad (or reasoning) was closed sometime in the thirteenth century, while the Shiites continued to practice ijtihad up until the present. This gave Shiite law a greater ability to deal with changes in the world.

    Gearóid Ó Colmáin participated in the New Horizons conference in Iran and also signed the 9/11 letter.

    Iranian author and scholar of Islam Blake Archer Williams, whose essay on Sacred Communities was featured on The Saker’s blog, sent along Ó Colmáin’s essay on his thoughts on the Conference:

    [nb. Ó Colmáin is a tad too Irish/Roman Catholic by my lights, and I must admit I clipped the paragraphs comparing NSDAP to zionism: hey, it's my comment box.]

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    The Occupation: Reflections on a recent trip to Iran.

    Excessive emotional focus on the brutality the Israeli Defense Forces in Palestine, while justified, nevertheless serves to mask the deeper forces driving the world to war: Jewish eschatology, anti-Gentilism, and the Israeli occupation of the Western mind. It is time to break the taboo.

    I visited Iran last week for the Sixth International New Horizons Conference in the religious city of Mashad. The New Horizons conference is organised by an Iranian NGO and invites writers and intellectuals from all over the world to debate and discuss problems in international relations. This year’s conference focused on the recent US embassy move to Jerusalem.

    I wrote a paper for the conference book entitled ‘The Noahide Laws: Bedrock for a Planetary State called Israel’ arguing that many Jewish rabbis and influential oligarchs wish to see Jerusalem as the capital of a world government which would have one set of laws for Jews and another for gentiles. I described how the legal mechanisms of Jewish-dominated global governance are already being implemented at UN level, unbeknownst to most of the world’s population. Globalisation is as much a matter of a certain religious fanaticism as it is of monopoly capitalism – a fact dialectical materialists cannot and will not ever comprehend.

    This was my fourth trip to Iran, the third on an official basis. Mashad is home to the tomb of the Eight Shiia Imam. The city never sleeps with pilgrims arriving all the time from all over the world. I visited Mashad university with former US Psychological Operations Counterterrorism analyst Scott Bennett where I delivered a lecture on the history of European anti-Semitism.

    I argued that European anti-Semitism was principally due to the cruel behaviour of Jewish financiers who repeatedly and relentlessly got princes and paupers into debt through the illicit practice of usury. One simply needs to read the extensive literature on the topic written by Jews such as Bernard Lazard,Heinrich Graetz, Werner Sombart, Cecil Roth or Gershom Sholem to understand why gentiles distrusted and despised Jews. Since Christ cleared the money-lenders from the temple, Roman Catholic teaching has proclaimed usury to be a mortal sin equivalent to murder.

    Jews are encouraged by the Talmud to lend to the gentile at interest: it is the fundamental difference between the Jew and the Christian, a fact understood by all Europe’s great philosophers from Augustine to Aquinas and from Nietzsche to Marx, but lacking among the craven clique of contemporary philosophasters.

    In most cases, those who denounce anti-Semitism have never read any of the relevant literature.

    Multipolar chaos or Christian world order

    There were important disagreements at this conference. Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin contended that a multipolar world of traditional civilisations would resolve many of the problems of the current world disorder. But Catholic intellectual E. Micheal Jones, Tehran-based Islamologist Blake Archer Williams and this writer argued that the natural tendency of the world is towards unification.

    To be sure, national democratic revolutions propelled by populism can open avenues of resistance to globalisation but only on an extremely limited scale. For example, Trump’s presidency has allowed debate on the origins of climate change to flourish. Now, thousands of important dissenting voices in the scientific community can finally be heard and the project for one-world government – the driving force behind climate pseudo-science is weakened.

    Nonetheless, I believe we will have a global super-state in time whether we like it or not. Multipolarity has not brought global peace, nor did the multipolar order of 1913 prevent the first world war.

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  • This is a wobbly, unfocused article by Pat.

    America’s (foreign) missions have been shadowy, ad hoc and willy-nilly for generations. And Pat know this. He said as much in his monumental book, ‘The Unnecessary War’. As for America’s national ’cause’, it should be the freedom, continuity and prosperity of the American people. Far-flung, trillion-dollar military interventions will be our undoing.

    Indeed, the mighty and far-removed US did not have to fight Germany in either World War. Until Pearl Harbor, millions of Americans defiantly sought neutrality and non-intervention. But agents of influence had other plans..

    Had the US stayed neutral and not intervened, diplomatic opportunities could have been seized. Contrary to popular belief, neither Japan nor Germany nor Italy wanted war with America. WWII was a colossal calamity of missed opportunities and world class manipulation.

    In a similar vein, the US did not have to ‘liberate’ Kuwait, depose Khadaffy, bomb Syria, or topple Saddam Hussein. These were lethal missions of choice. And their sad legacies have not improved over time.

    Why aren’t the architects of these mass slaughters in prison?

    Ironically, the same pro-war influence-peddles are still lobbying Congress, appearing on TV, and steering US policies in the direction of more conflict!

    This recurring phenomena is symptomatic of entrenched political corruption. Even our news institutions have been subverted. ‘Surveillance is safety’. ‘War is peace’.

    So why is Pat waxing nostalgic for WWII? Washington’s sacred mission to annihilate Fascism and National Socialism helped give rise to Soviet totalitarianism and global Zionism.

    Out of the frying pan, into the fire?

    Today, there’s precious little common sense connected to America’s erratic and aggressive warmaking. US policies certainly do not revolve around the value of ‘peaceful coexistence’ or self-defense. In fact, the US routinely attacks first, and often without a Congressional declaration of war. Zio-Washington has become not only the world’s policeman, but its judge, jury and executioner. And the rules we impose are not steadfast or consistent.

    Thus Washington uses the UN when it suits its agenda, and ignores it when it doesn’t. We decide.
    Even multi-lateral US treaty agreements are tossed aside. The scuttled Iran deal is a prime example. But diplomacy of this kind resembles the mafia: “Do as we say. Or else”.

    In a similar vein, some US allies get special consideration (‘special relationship’ ring a bell?) while others, not. It depends. Rules are subject to change. Money and ‘relationships’ are key, especially money. Ironclad laws or principles must wait. This is organized crime all over again.

    Bear in mind that America’s ‘exceptional’ posture has given us more foreign wars over the past century than any nation in history. That’s quite a record.

    Does ‘rogue state’ ring a bell?

    Today, America’s central ’cause’ abroad revolves around the safety and ‘security’ of Israel. This shoe does fit.

    And it is pro-Israel partisans who are calling the shots in Washington (as Pat surely knows) just as they continue to script the moral/historic/political narrative that appears on our televisions. This is power. Unrivaled power.

    Has the golden age of Yiddish theater returned?

    If polls mattered, America’s actual mission in the world would be to protect US borders, and increase prosperity at home (as well as preserve our existing cultural institutions). US resources would be used primarily for the benefit of the American people.

    Ron Paul and others have been sounding the ‘peace and prosperity’ bell for decades.

    But what typical Americans get instead are distant ‘preemptive’ wars, open borders, and economic globalism.

    Zio-America has become a corrupt empire, unmoored to international law or even national interests (as measured by public sentiment.)

    Today’s America is fighting to ”Make Israel Great Again’. This is the road to ruin.

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    Contrary to popular belief, neither Japan nor Germany nor Italy wanted war with America.
     
    Yes, but the US Government desperately wanted war against Japan, even to the extent of letting thousands of its citizens die in an attack it had foreknowledge of and which it could have prevented. President Bush may not have had foreknowledge of the September 11, 2001 attacks, but President Roosevelt certainly did regarding Pearl Harbor 1941.
    Since the early C20th, American politicians of various types had aimed at bringing China under American control. The Japanese invasion of China was stymieing that aim, so the Japs had to be provoked into a war with the US.
    Of course, China never came under American control. In fact, the reverse is now true. China holds $1.3 trillion in US Treasury Bonds. When they finally dump them- not long off- American hegemony will be over and the country deep in economic depression.
    Another of history's ironies.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Great essay, Mr. Green. As I did early this year on Peak Stupidity, I would like to feature this great comment on my blog. Let me know if that's OK. I wanted to write one quick post-Memorial Day post more about the soldiers in America's wars, and then I could put yours after that.

    Let me know anytime on here or my blog. Thanks.

    (spent too much time this morning commenting under Steve Sailer and John Derbyshire.)
    , @Echoes of History
    "Zio-America" is fighting to "Make Israel Great Again," mainly because the most popular book in America, the Jew Testament, advocates the following policies:

    1. Loyalty to Jerusalem, Israel. (John 1:49, Rev. 21:2)

    2. The Jew First. (Romans 1:16)

    3. Send tribute to Jerusalem. (Romans 15:27)

    4. Filthy Goy need to consult with a Rabbi on how to organize their business. (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25)

    We're marching to Zion, beautiful, beautiful Zion!
    , @Corvinus
    "Had the US stayed neutral and not intervened, diplomatic opportunities could have been seized."

    Seized with whom? A good chunk of American trading partners in Europe had fallen to German forces.

    "Contrary to popular belief, neither Japan nor Germany nor Italy wanted war with America."

    Actually, America was upset with Japan's invasion of China. In response, the federal government imposed severe economic sanctions on Japan, which Japan found intolerable. Furthermore, Germany and Italy would have preferred to not to have war with the United States, but their threat to the British mainland necessitated American involvement.

    "WWII was a colossal calamity of missed opportunities and world class manipulation."

    One decidedly caused by German, Italian, and Japanese aggression. America had no choice but to correctly intervene.
    , @geokat62
    Hi, Mark. I very much enjoyed reading your lengthy comment. As I've previously indicated, when it comes to your comments, the longer... the better.

    Stay well.
    , @Buck Turgidson
    Great comments, well written, thoughtful, congrats. I am reading Pats book on the unnecessary war and Churchill and his comments in this column about WWII are not consistent w the book. I love Pat but this isn't his best column.

    The US would have been better off hstorically--sparing many lives and saving trillions of $$--had we been less interventionist IMO, but this thinking isn't exactly the zeitgeist.
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  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    From your source:

    “Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany's defeat in May 1945,[7][8] and the full proposal has never been found, though several documents refer to it or supplement it.”

    How convenient.

    “Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany’s defeat in May 1945,[7][8]“

    1. If so, how do we know about GeneralPlan Ost?

    2. Was the “destruction of the documentation” witnessed by someone who has certified that the documents were destroyed?

    3. Who destroyed the documents and with what purpose or motive? Edit: Looks like Wally has covered this, above.

    4. Yad Vashem website posts a page discussing Generalplan Ost. Wonder where YV got its information. http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%206247.pdf

    5. The World Future Fund posts an extensive analysis, with links to documents, of Generalplan Ost. http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/GPO/Generalplanostnew.htm The wikipedia post on Generalplan Ost makes reference to the WFF material.

    6. The quote from wikipedia includes footnote references that are sources for the assertion that “documentation was destroyed” –

    ^ [7]Jump up to: a b Schmuhl, Hans-Walter (2008). The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Eugenics, 1927–1945. Crossing boundaries. Boston Studies in the Philosophy and History of Science. 259. Springer Netherlands. pp. 348–9. ISBN 978-90-481-7678-6.
    [8] Jump up ^ Poprzeczny, Joseph (2004). Odilo Globocnik, Hitler’s Man in the East. McFarland. p. 186. ISBN 0-7864-1625-4.

    The first pages of the book on Globocnik ( fn 8) can be read on Amazon. One of the most notable characteristics of those pages is the large number of contingency statements; for example:

    If . . .Stalin’s Red Army . . . had been defeated . . . Globocnik would have been ideally placed to be in charge of ethnic cleansing not only of all of Poland but the entire European or Western segment of Stalin’s Soviet Union . . .”

    But it wasn’t so he wasn’t so it wasn’t.

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    Yes, Generalplan Ost is an all-purpose boogeyman used to invoke, at a minimum, grand designs for Nazi world domination and more often an attempt by Slavs to get in on the Holocaust victims sweepstakes (funny how that one never gains any traction, no?).

    There’s no doubt that the Germans drew up contingency plans for exploiting Soviet territories after the war, but this is a very far cry from an “extermination plan” (which is not to imply that they had much regard for the Slavic populations under their control, but it’s not like the Soviets authorities did either).
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  • @Wally
    But I asked about the authentic & original of the claimed 'document'.
    Is it included in Noakes book?
    If not, why not?

    Regards.

    www.codoh.com

    Wally, I don’t read any language other than English.
    I don’t know that there is a protocol to include the original text in a book that contains the translation.

    I understand your skepticism — most of what is shoved down our throats re Hitler, Germany in the wars, etc. is so debauched that the only reasonable approach is to Doubt Everything.

    Nevertheless, since the author did display a source for the original and for the translation, I assumed the author was acting in good faith, since any skeptical reader could readily cross-check the documents.

    Maybe I am gullible; it’s happened before. But I took the author at his word that the translation was legitimate.

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    said:
    "Maybe I am gullible; it’s happened before. But I took the author at his word that the translation was legitimate."
    A big mistake.
    Noakes is an author who directly profits from the scam of '6M & gas chambers", which he states that he believes in yet can produce no proof. He is not an unbiased scholar at all.
    Claiming various documents and then not be able to produce them is a big part of the Industry's game. They count on no one challenging their lies.

    At Nuremberg alone the 'document' manipulation was simply massive, excerpt from:
    Not Guilty at Nuremberg by Carlos Porter
    http://www.cwporter.com/innocent.htm

    The documents used in evidence at Nuremberg consisted largely of "photocopies" of "copies". Many of these original documents were written entirely on plain paper without handwritten markings of any kind, by unknown persons. Occasionally, there is an illegible initial or signature of a more or less unknown person certifying the document as a 'true copy'.
    Sometimes there are German stamps, sometimes not. Many have been 'found' by the Russians, or 'certified authentic' by Soviet War Crimes Commissions.

    Volume XXXIII, a document volume taken at random, contains 20 interrogations or affidavits, 12 photocopies, 5 unsigned copies, 5 original documents with signatures, 4 copies of printed material, 3 mimeographed copies, 3 teletypes, 1 microfilmm copy, 1 copy signed by somebody else and 1 unspecified.

    The Hague has few, if any, original documents. The Hague has many original post-war 'affidavits', or sworn statements, the Tribunal Commission transcripts, and much valuable defense material.
    They have the 'human soap', which has never been tested, and the 'original human soap recipe' (Document USSR-196), which is a forgery; but apparently no original wartime German documents.
    The Hague has negative photostats of these documents, on extremely brittle paper which has been stapled. To photocopy the photostats, the staples are removed. When they are re-stapled more holes are made. Most of these documents have not been photocopied very often, and officials at the Hague say it is very unusual for anyone to ask to see them.

    The National Archives in Washington (see Telford Taylor's Use of Captured German and Related Documents, A National Archive Conference) claim that the original documents are in The Hague. The Hague claims the original documents are in the National Archives.

    The Stadtarchiv Nürnberg and the Bundesarchiv Koblenz also have no original documents, and both say the original documents are in Washington.
    Since the originals are, in most cases, 'copies', there is often no proof that the documents in question ever existed.

    Robert Jackson got the trial off to a start by quoting the following forged or otherwise worthless documents: 1947-PS; 1721-PS; 1014-PS; 81-PS; 212-PS; and many others (II 120-142 [141-168]).

    1947-PS is a 'copy' of a 'translation' of a letter from General Fritsch to the Baroness von Schutzbar-Milchling. The Baroness later signed an affidavit stating that she never received the letter in question (XXI 381 [420-421]).

    The falsified 'letter' from General Fritsch to the Baroness von Schutzbar-Milchling was recognized as such during the trial and is not included in the document volumes, where it should appear at XXVIII 44. Jackson was not, however, admonished by the Tribunal (XXI 380[420]).

    The enthusiastic Americans apparently forged 15 of these 'translations', after which the original documents all disappeared (See Taylor, Captured Documents).

    1721-PS is a forgery in which an SA man writes a report to himself about how he is carrying out an order which is quoted verbatim in the report. Handwritten markings on pages 2 and 3 are obvious imitations of handwritten markings on page 1 (XXI 137-141[157-161]; 195-198 [219-224]; 425 [470];XXII 147-150 [169-172]. See also Testimony Before the Commission, Fuss, 25 April, and Lucke, 7 May 1946). The National Archives have a positive photostat of 1721-PS, and The Hague has a negative photostat. The 'original' is a photocopy (XXVII 485).

    1014-PS is a falsified 'Hitler Speech' written on plain paper by an unknown person. The document bears the heading 'Second Speech' although it is known that Hitler gave only one speech on that date. There are four versions of this speech, 3 of them forgeries: 1014-PS, 798-PS, L-3, and an authentic version, Ra-27 (XVII 406-408[445-447]; XVIII 390-402 [426-439].

    The third forgery, Document L-3, bears an FBI laboratory stamp and was never even accepted into evidence (II 286 [320-321]), but 250 copies of it were given to the press as authentic (II 286-293 [320-328]).

    This document is quoted by A.J.P. Taylor on page 254 of The Origins of the Second World War (Fawcett Paperbacks, 2nd Edition, with Answer to his Critics) giving his source as German Foreign Policy, Series D vii, No 192 and 193.

    L-3 is the source of many statements attributed to Hitler, particularly "who today remembers the fate of the Armenians?" and "our enemies are little worms, I saw them at Munich". 'Hitler' also compares himself to Genghis Khan and says he will exterminate the Poles, and kick Chamberlain in the groin in front of the photographers. The document appears to have been prepared on the same typewriter as many other Nuremberg documents, including the two other versions of the same speech. This typewriter was probably a Martin from the Triumph-Adler-Werke, Nuremberg.

    81-PS is a 'certified true copy' of an unsigned letter on plain paper prepared by an unknown person. If authentic, it is the first draft of a letter never sent. This is invariably spoken of as a letter written by Rosenberg, which Rosenberg denied (XI 510-511 [560-561]). The document lacks signature, initial, blank journal number (a bureaucratic marking) and was not found among the papers of the person to whom it was addressed (XVII 612 [664]). 81-PS is a 'photocopy' with a Soviet exhibit number (USSR-353, XXV 156-161).

    212-PS was also prepared by an unknown person, entirely on plain paper, without any handwritten markings, date, address, or stamp (III 540 [602], XXV 302-306; see also photocopies of negative photostats from The Hague).

    This is, unfortunately, only typical. Document 386-PS, the 'Hossbach Protokoll', Hitler's supposed speech of 5 November 1938, is a certified photocopy of a microfilm copy of a re-typed 'certified true copy' prepared by an American, of a re-typed 'certified true copy' prepared by a German, of unauthenticated handwritten notes by Hossbach, of a speech by Hitler, written from memory 5 days later. This is not the worst document, but one of the best, because we know who made one of the copies. The text of 386-PS has been 'edited' (XLII 228-230).

    Thus 'trial by document' works as follows: A, an unknown person, listens to alleged 'oral statements' made by B, and takes notes or prepares a document on the basis of those alleged oral statements. The document is then introduced into evidence, not against A, who made the copy, but against B, C, D, E and a host of other people, although there is nothing to connect them with the document or the alleged statements. It is casually stated as fact that 'B said', or that 'C did', or that 'D and E knew'. This is contrary to the rules of evidence of all civilised countries. Nor are the documents identified by witnesses.

    The forgery of original documents was rarely resorted to at Nuremberg, because the documents were not brought to court. The "original document" - that is, the original unsigned "copy" - was kept in a safe in the Document Centre (II 195 [224], 256-258 [289-292]).

    Then, 2 "photocopies" of the "copy" (V 21[29]) or 6 photocopies (II 251-253 [284-286]) were prepared and brought to court. All other copies were re-typed on a mimeograph using a stencil (IX 504 [558-559]).

    In the transcript, the word "original" is used to mean "photocopy" (II 249-250 [283-284]; XIII 200 [223], 508 [560], 519 [573], XV 43 [53], 169 [189] 171 [191] 327 [359]), to distinguish the photocopies from the mimeograph copies (IV 245-246 [273-274]).

    "Translations" of all documents were available from the beginning of the trial (II 159-160[187-189], 191 [219-220], 195 [224], 215 [245], 249-250 [282-283], 277 [312], 415 [458], 437 [482-483]), but the "original" German texts were not available until at least two months later. This applies not just to the trial briefs and indictment, etc. but to ALL DOCUMENTS.

    The defense received no documents in German until after January 9, 1946 (V 22-26 [31-35]).

    Documents which appear to have been prepared on the same typewriter include Document 3803-PS, a letter from Kaltenbrunner to the Mayor of Vienna, and the cover letter from this same Mayor sending Kaltenbrunner's letter to the Tribunal (XI 345-348 [381-385]). This letter from Kaltenbrunner contains a false geographical term (XIV 416 [458]).
     
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  • @Momus
    I don't know why you bother commenting. Your grasp of history and perception of the flow of current events is grotesquely distorted. You are like a plumber who expects water and shit to flow up hill.

    Of course the US has protected Western Europe after they rebuilt the place. Have you heard of the Marshall Plan? The great irony for many who saw the sacrifices the British made was that they needed and deserved reconstructing, but Germany (and Japan) got all the funds for the new machine tools and infrastructure and quickly built the second largest economy while the poms suffered with worn out pre first and second WW gear.

    Have you heard of the Marshall Plan? The great irony for many who saw the sacrifices the British made was that they needed and deserved reconstructing, but Germany (and Japan) got all the funds for the new machine tools and infrastructure and quickly built the second largest economy while the poms suffered with worn out pre first and second WW gear.

    One would almost think Momus and his tribe conceived or paid out on the Marshall Plan.

    Notice that the Plan did not go into effect until 1948, when American Gen. George C Marshall could no longer tolerate the barbarity and counter productiveness of the Jewish Morgenthau Plan, under which the Germans were tormented for three years after the end of hostilities.

    Even at that, a. if Jewish money was involved, it was going into, not out of, Jewish pockets; and
    b. the economic assistance the USA committed to the Plan went primarily to England and not to continental Europe:

    The Marshall Plan . . . was an American initiative to aid Western Europe, in which the United States gave over $13 billion. . . in economic assistance to help rebuild Western European economies after the end of World War II. The plan was in operation for four years beginning on April 3, 1948.[3] The goals of the United States were to rebuild war-torn regions, remove trade barriers, modernize industry, improve European prosperity, and prevent the spread of Communism. . . .

    Somewhat more aid per capita was also directed towards the Allied nations, with less for those that had been part of the Axis or remained neutral.
    The largest recipient of Marshall Plan money was the United Kingdom (receiving about 26% of the total),
    followed by France (18%) and
    West Germany (11%).
    wikipedia

    West Germany, 75% of whose civil and industrial infrastructure was destroyed,
    received $1.4 billion, while England, far less seriously damaged, received ~ $3.4 billion, less than the amount Israel receives every year from USA.

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  • @SolontoCroesus
    Greetings Comrade ** (that's upper case 88. for iffen's amusement. looks like tiny cat paw prints)
    ---

    @313 Incitatus wrote: "Do not mention Adolf Hitler’s declaration of war on Jews on 16 September 1919, regularly repeated thereafter with promises of stripping Jews of citizenship, property, and all other human rights."

    @317 Wally wrote, correctly: "What declaration of war? In 1919. He had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL"

    @319 Incitatus dug that hole a little deeper: [quoting Wally]"“In 1919. He [Hitler] had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL
    [Incitatus] In 1919 Hitler was in the army, writing in its behalf. Scapegoating Jews helped conceal the General Staff’s monumental incompetence in launching and losing the late war.
     

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    a. Apologies to Wally. His comment @317 is obviously correct: Hitler had no army in 1919.

    b. #313 is dead wrong; there was no declaration of war in Hitler's letter of 16 September 1919.

    According to Jewish Virtual Library (which may be a biased, neo-Nazi source. YouTubeian Warning!!), consequent to having completed a course in German nationalism, and having been requested to report his thinking on the Jewish Question, on 16 Sept 1919 Hitler

    QUOTE


    appears anxious to establish his credentials as a knowledgeable anti-Semite though his rhetoric is quite tame, stressing the need for a "rational" and "scientific" antisemitism. Hitler calls for the "irrevocable removal" of Jews from German life, but it is clear from the context that, at this point, Hitler meant only segregation or expulsion rather than systematic liquidation.
     
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    #313 includes the statement: "regularly repeated thereafter" which prompted S2C to think Inci was referring to Hitler's January, 1939 speech, which was repeated several times.

    #319 appears to reveal that Inci did not know what the hell he/she/it was talking about and so regurgitated Hollywood history. The September 1919 report makes no mention of the war loss; its point of departure is the November revolution and the German (Weimar) Republic; it is a keen analysis of the ways- of- being- of Jews within other cultures and particularly German culture. <strike:I've S2C has read only précis of McDonald's Culture of Critique; that work and Hitler's Sept. 1919 report match on numerous points. Patrick Little's assessment of Jews in USA also correlates closely w/ the Sept. 1919 report.
    Thus, Incitatus is correct in stating that Hitler urged that Jews be removed from positions of influence in German society and implemented measures toward that effect.


    The circumstances leading to the composition of this report, by Hitler, then in the German army acting in propaganda and troop education functions, and the report, are published in full here: http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/docpage.cfm?docpage_id=4809

    A. Explanatory material:
    Hitler’s First Major Statement on Anti-Semitism: Reply to Adolf Gemlich (September 16, 1919)
    After experiencing the November Revolution and the “Councils Republic” [Räterepublik], the Bavarian Reichswehr Group Commando No. 4, which was established on May 11, 1919, decided to keep an eye on political groups and to carry out “educational work” (i.e., indoctrination) in order to combat revolutionary activities among the troops. Led by Karl Mayr, the Reichswehr’s “Information Department” (Ib/P) was commissioned for this purpose. Adolf Hitler, who had previously belonged to the demobilization unit, joined the “Information Department” as a propaganda writer and informant [Vertrauensmann], and participated in education courses organized by the department. Hitler’s contributions to group discussions caught the attention of one course lecturer, historian Karl Alexander von Müller, who knew Mayr from their school days. Müller informed Mayr of Hitler’s rhetorical gifts. Soon thereafter, Hitler was appointed as a lecturer for an educational course in Lechfeld (August 20-25, 1919). On September 4, 1919, Adolf Gemlich, a course participant, wrote a letter to Mayr and requested precise information on the government’s position on the “Jewish Question” [Judenfrage]. Mayr forwarded Gemlich’s letter to Hitler and asked him to reply. Hitler complied with the request and wrote the following response on September 16, 1919.

    B. Hitler's Report:

    If the danger represented by the Jews today finds expression in the undeniable dislike of them felt by a large section of our people, the cause of this dislike is on the whole not to be found in the clear recognition of the corrupting activity of the Jews generally among our people, whether conscious or unconscious; it originates mainly through personal relationship, and from the impression left behind him by the individual Jew which is almost invariably unfavorable. Antisemitism thereby acquires only too easily the character of being a manifestation of emotion. But this is wrong. Antisemitism as a political movement must not be, cannot be, determined by emotional criteria, but only through the recognition of facts. The facts are as follows: First, the Jews are definitely a race and not a religious community. The Jew himself never calls himself a Jewish German, a Jewish Pole, a Jewish American, but only a German, a Polish, an American Jew. From the foreign nations in whose midst he lives the Jew has adopted very little more than their language. A German who is compelled to use French in France, Italian in Italy, Chinese in China, does not thereby become a Frenchman, an Italian, or a Chinese; similarly a Jew who happens to live among us and is thereby compelled to use the German language cannot be called a German. Even the Mosaic faith, however important for the maintenance of this race, cannot be considered as absolutely decisive in the question of whether or not someone is a Jew. There is hardly a single race whose members belong exclusively to one particular religion.

    Through a thousand years of inbreeding, often practiced within a very narrow circle, the Jew has in general preserved his race and character much more rigorously than many of the peoples among whom he lives. And as a result, there is living amongst us a non-German, foreign race, unwilling and unable to sacrifice its racial characteristics, to deny its own feeling, thinking and striving, and which none the less possesses all the political rights that we ourselves have. The feelings of the Jew are concerned with purely material things; his thoughts and desires even more so. The dance round the golden calf becomes a ruthless struggle for all those goods which, according to our innermost feelings, should not be the highest and most desirable things on this earth.

    The value of the individual is no longer determined by his character, by the importance of his achievements for all, but solely by the amount of his possessions, by his money.

    The value of the nation is no longer to be measured in terms of the sum of its moral and spiritual forces, but solely on the basis of the wealth of its material goods.

    From this feeling emerges that concern and striving for money and for the power which can protect it which makes the Jew unscrupulous in his choice of means, ruthless in his use of them to achieve this aim.

    In an autocratically governed state he whines for the favor of the ‘Majesty’ of the prince and abuses it to batten on his subjects like a leech. In a democracy he courts the favor of the masses, crawls before the ‘majesty of the people’ and yet knows only the majesty of money.

    He destroys the character of the prince with byzantine flattery, and national pride, which is the strength of a nation, with mockery and shameless training in vice. His weapon is that public opinion which is never given utterance by the press, but is always led by it and falsified by it. His power is the power of money which in the form of interest effortlessly and interminably multiplies itself in his hands and forces upon nations that most dangerous of yokes, the sad consequences of which are so difficult to perceive because of the initial gleam of gold. Everything which makes men strive for higher things, whether religion, socialism or democracy, is for him only a means to an end, to the satisfaction of a lust for money and domination. His activities produce a racial tuberculosis among nations.

    And this has the following result: Antisemitism stemming from purely emotive reasons will always find its expression in the form of progroms [sic]. But antisemitism based on reason must lead to the systematic legal combating and removal of the rights of the Jew, which he alone of the foreigners living among us possesses (legislation to make them aliens). Its final aim, however, must be the uncompromising removal of the Jews altogether. Both are possible only under a government of national strength, never under a government of national impotence.

    The Republic in Germany owes its birth not to the united national will of our people but to the cunning exploitation of a series of circumstances which combined to produce a deep general discontent. But these circumstances were independent of the form of the State, and are still active today; more active, indeed, today than before. And a large section of our people is aware that no mere change in the form of the State as such can alter or improve our position, but only the rebirth of the moral and spiritual energies of the nation.

    This rebirth will be set in motion not by the political leadership of irresponsible majorities under the influence of party dogmas or of an irresponsible press, nor by catchwords and slogans of international coinage, but only through the ruthless action of personalities with a capacity for national leadership and an inner sense of responsibility.

    But this fact robs the Republic of the internal support of the spiritual forces of the nation which are so necessary. And so the present leaders of the State are compelled to seek support from those who alone benefited from the changed situation in Germany and do so now, and who for this reason have been the driving forces of the revolution, namely, the Jews. Taking no account of the Jewish peril, which has certainly been recognized by present-day leaders—proof of this is the various statements of present leading figures—they are compelled to accept the support readily offered by the Jews for their own benefit, and therefore to pay the required price. And this price consists not only in giving the Jews every possible encouragement, but above all in hampering the struggle of the duped nation against their brother Jews—in the neutralizing of the antisemitic movement.

    Source of English translation: Jeremy Noakes and Geoffrey Pridham, eds., Nazism 1919-1945, Vol. 1, The Rise to Power 1919-1934. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, 1998, pp. 12-14.

    Source of original German text: “Hitler an Gemlich. München, 16. September 1919, ” HStA München. Abt. II. Gruppen Kdo. 4. Bd. 50/8. Abschrift; reprinted in Ernst Deuerlein, “Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 7. Jahrgang, 2.

    This appears immediately below citation of the source of translation:

    Source of original German text: “Hitler an Gemlich. München, 16. September 1919, ” HStA München. Abt. II. Gruppen Kdo. 4. Bd. 50/8. Abschrift; reprinted in Ernst Deuerlein, “Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 7. Jahrgang, 2.

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    But I asked about the authentic & original of the claimed 'document'.
    Is it included in Noakes book?
    If not, why not?

    Regards.

    www.codoh.com
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  • @Wally
    said:
    "Both Inc & Wally are confused re the Sept 16 speech."

    I'm confused how?

    Thanks.
    www.codoh.com

    Greetings Comrade ** (that’s upper case 88. for iffen’s amusement. looks like tiny cat paw prints)

    @313 Incitatus wrote: “Do not mention Adolf Hitler’s declaration of war on Jews on 16 September 1919, regularly repeated thereafter with promises of stripping Jews of citizenship, property, and all other human rights.”

    @317 Wally wrote, correctly: “What declaration of war? In 1919. He had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL”

    @319 Incitatus dug that hole a little deeper: [quoting Wally]““In 1919. He [Hitler] had no army. He took office in 1933. LOL
    [Incitatus] In 1919 Hitler was in the army, writing in its behalf. Scapegoating Jews helped conceal the General Staff’s monumental incompetence in launching and losing the late war.


    a. Apologies to Wally. His comment @317 is obviously correct: Hitler had no army in 1919.

    b. #313 is dead wrong; there was no declaration of war in Hitler’s letter of 16 September 1919.

    According to Jewish Virtual Library (which may be a biased, neo-Nazi source. YouTubeian Warning!!), consequent to having completed a course in German nationalism, and having been requested to report his thinking on the Jewish Question, on 16 Sept 1919 Hitler

    QUOTE

    appears anxious to establish his credentials as a knowledgeable anti-Semite though his rhetoric is quite tame, stressing the need for a “rational” and “scientific” antisemitism. Hitler calls for the “irrevocable removal” of Jews from German life, but it is clear from the context that, at this point, Hitler meant only segregation or expulsion rather than systematic liquidation.

    END QUOTE

    #313 includes the statement: “regularly repeated thereafter” which prompted S2C to think Inci was referring to Hitler’s January, 1939 speech, which was repeated several times.

    #319 appears to reveal that Inci did not know what the hell he/she/it was talking about and so regurgitated Hollywood history. The September 1919 report makes no mention of the war loss; its point of departure is the November revolution and the German (Weimar) Republic; it is a keen analysis of the ways- of- being- of Jews within other cultures and particularly German culture. <strike:I've S2C has read only précis of McDonald’s Culture of Critique; that work and Hitler’s Sept. 1919 report match on numerous points. Patrick Little’s assessment of Jews in USA also correlates closely w/ the Sept. 1919 report.
    Thus, Incitatus is correct in stating that Hitler urged that Jews be removed from positions of influence in German society and implemented measures toward that effect.

    The circumstances leading to the composition of this report, by Hitler, then in the German army acting in propaganda and troop education functions, and the report, are published in full here: http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/docpage.cfm?docpage_id=4809

    A. Explanatory material:
    Hitler’s First Major Statement on Anti-Semitism: Reply to Adolf Gemlich (September 16, 1919)
    After experiencing the November Revolution and the “Councils Republic” [Räterepublik], the Bavarian Reichswehr Group Commando No. 4, which was established on May 11, 1919, decided to keep an eye on political groups and to carry out “educational work” (i.e., indoctrination) in order to combat revolutionary activities among the troops. Led by Karl Mayr, the Reichswehr’s “Information Department” (Ib/P) was commissioned for this purpose. Adolf Hitler, who had previously belonged to the demobilization unit, joined the “Information Department” as a propaganda writer and informant [Vertrauensmann], and participated in education courses organized by the department. Hitler’s contributions to group discussions caught the attention of one course lecturer, historian Karl Alexander von Müller, who knew Mayr from their school days. Müller informed Mayr of Hitler’s rhetorical gifts. Soon thereafter, Hitler was appointed as a lecturer for an educational course in Lechfeld (August 20-25, 1919). On September 4, 1919, Adolf Gemlich, a course participant, wrote a letter to Mayr and requested precise information on the government’s position on the “Jewish Question” [Judenfrage]. Mayr forwarded Gemlich’s letter to Hitler and asked him to reply. Hitler complied with the request and wrote the following response on September 16, 1919.

    B. Hitler’s Report:

    If the danger represented by the Jews today finds expression in the undeniable dislike of them felt by a large section of our people, the cause of this dislike is on the whole not to be found in the clear recognition of the corrupting activity of the Jews generally among our people, whether conscious or unconscious; it originates mainly through personal relationship, and from the impression left behind him by the individual Jew which is almost invariably unfavorable. Antisemitism thereby acquires only too easily the character of being a manifestation of emotion. But this is wrong. Antisemitism as a political movement must not be, cannot be, determined by emotional criteria, but only through the recognition of facts. The facts are as follows: First, the Jews are definitely a race and not a religious community. The Jew himself never calls himself a Jewish German, a Jewish Pole, a Jewish American, but only a German, a Polish, an American Jew. From the foreign nations in whose midst he lives the Jew has adopted very little more than their language. A German who is compelled to use French in France, Italian in Italy, Chinese in China, does not thereby become a Frenchman, an Italian, or a Chinese; similarly a Jew who happens to live among us and is thereby compelled to use the German language cannot be called a German. Even the Mosaic faith, however important for the maintenance of this race, cannot be considered as absolutely decisive in the question of whether or not someone is a Jew. There is hardly a single race whose members belong exclusively to one particular religion.

    [MORE]

    Through a thousand years of inbreeding, often practiced within a very narrow circle, the Jew has in general preserved his race and character much more rigorously than many of the peoples among whom he lives. And as a result, there is living amongst us a non-German, foreign race, unwilling and unable to sacrifice its racial characteristics, to deny its own feeling, thinking and striving, and which none the less possesses all the political rights that we ourselves have. The feelings of the Jew are concerned with purely material things; his thoughts and desires even more so. The dance round the golden calf becomes a ruthless struggle for all those goods which, according to our innermost feelings, should not be the highest and most desirable things on this earth.

    The value of the individual is no longer determined by his character, by the importance of his achievements for all, but solely by the amount of his possessions, by his money.

    The value of the nation is no longer to be measured in terms of the sum of its moral and spiritual forces, but solely on the basis of the wealth of its material goods.

    From this feeling emerges that concern and striving for money and for the power which can protect it which makes the Jew unscrupulous in his choice of means, ruthless in his use of them to achieve this aim.

    In an autocratically governed state he whines for the favor of the ‘Majesty’ of the prince and abuses it to batten on his subjects like a leech. In a democracy he courts the favor of the masses, crawls before the ‘majesty of the people’ and yet knows only the majesty of money.

    He destroys the character of the prince with byzantine flattery, and national pride, which is the strength of a nation, with mockery and shameless training in vice. His weapon is that public opinion which is never given utterance by the press, but is always led by it and falsified by it. His power is the power of money which in the form of interest effortlessly and interminably multiplies itself in his hands and forces upon nations that most dangerous of yokes, the sad consequences of which are so difficult to perceive because of the initial gleam of gold. Everything which makes men strive for higher things, whether religion, socialism or democracy, is for him only a means to an end, to the satisfaction of a lust for money and domination. His activities produce a racial tuberculosis among nations.

    And this has the following result: Antisemitism stemming from purely emotive reasons will always find its expression in the form of progroms [sic]. But antisemitism based on reason must lead to the systematic legal combating and removal of the rights of the Jew, which he alone of the foreigners living among us possesses (legislation to make them aliens). Its final aim, however, must be the uncompromising removal of the Jews altogether. Both are possible only under a government of national strength, never under a government of national impotence.

    The Republic in Germany owes its birth not to the united national will of our people but to the cunning exploitation of a series of circumstances which combined to produce a deep general discontent. But these circumstances were independent of the form of the State, and are still active today; more active, indeed, today than before. And a large section of our people is aware that no mere change in the form of the State as such can alter or improve our position, but only the rebirth of the moral and spiritual energies of the nation.

    This rebirth will be set in motion not by the political leadership of irresponsible majorities under the influence of party dogmas or of an irresponsible press, nor by catchwords and slogans of international coinage, but only through the ruthless action of personalities with a capacity for national leadership and an inner sense of responsibility.

    But this fact robs the Republic of the internal support of the spiritual forces of the nation which are so necessary. And so the present leaders of the State are compelled to seek support from those who alone benefited from the changed situation in Germany and do so now, and who for this reason have been the driving forces of the revolution, namely, the Jews. Taking no account of the Jewish peril, which has certainly been recognized by present-day leaders—proof of this is the various statements of present leading figures—they are compelled to accept the support readily offered by the Jews for their own benefit, and therefore to pay the required price. And this price consists not only in giving the Jews every possible encouragement, but above all in hampering the struggle of the duped nation against their brother Jews—in the neutralizing of the antisemitic movement.

    Source of English translation: Jeremy Noakes and Geoffrey Pridham, eds., Nazism 1919-1945, Vol. 1, The Rise to Power 1919-1934. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, 1998, pp. 12-14.

    Source of original German text: “Hitler an Gemlich. München, 16. September 1919, ” HStA München. Abt. II. Gruppen Kdo. 4. Bd. 50/8. Abschrift; reprinted in Ernst Deuerlein, “Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 7. Jahrgang, 2.

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    SC, on your citation:

    "Source of English translation: Jeremy Noakes and Geoffrey Pridham, eds., Nazism 1919-1945, Vol. 1, The Rise to Power 1919-1934. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, 1998, pp. 12-14."

    Does Noakes include the actual & original Hitler document in the book that is cited? Not just his "translation".
    As we see constantly, 'translations' related to NS Germany can be quite inaccurate, intentionally so.

    Thanks.

    www.codoh.com
    , @SolontoCroesus
    This appears immediately below citation of the source of translation:

    Source of original German text: “Hitler an Gemlich. München, 16. September 1919, ” HStA München. Abt. II. Gruppen Kdo. 4. Bd. 50/8. Abschrift; reprinted in Ernst Deuerlein, “Hitlers Eintritt in die Politik und die Reichswehr,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 7. Jahrgang, 2.
     
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • I disagree with my earlier over-enthusiastic endorsement of Patrick Little.

    I’ve since read a bit more about him, specifically, a Newsweek interview
    ttps://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/patrick-little-interview-with-newsweek-apr-30-2018-transcript/

    Based on that, and on all the inside-baseball white nationalist stuff, I don’t think he’s ready for prime-time.

    I also have to acknowledge that I know very little about the entire spectrum of white nationalism/Alt-Right and all the personalities involved.

    Opposition to Jewish power in the USA and in foreign power is an extremely important topic that demands serious attention.

    The interviewer in the Newsweek article tried to bait Little to advocate violence against Jews; Little had worked out the basic shape of a response, but not the most effective one, imo, and the response he seems to be working on is not well articulated.

    Little responds to questions of violence by turning to the notion of Force, and that the State is empowered to use Force to enforce its laws:

    Newsweek: Do you advocate violence against Jews? In a deportation process or whatever that would be?
    Little: Do I advocate, …? No! The state has to use force though. If things are law, they need to be enforced, and ultimately government is the threat of force.

    In my opinion, Little would do well to spend some serious time composing a comprehensive response to “Are-you-a-neo Nazi-Do-you-deny-the-Holocaust-What- should- be- done- about- JQ and do- you- advocate- violence” by focusing on Free Speech:

    If the history of the wars in Europe

    AND

    the truth about 9/11 and the Terror Wars it kicked off

    were openly, honestly and objectively researched, discussed, robustly debated, rather than censored, criminalized, brutalized, then no impulse for violence would exist.

    People WILL be heard, one way or the other: you censors out there: CHOOSE: free speech or violence.

    The “neo-Nazis” in Charlottesville were not permitted to speak!
    Philip Zelikow, specialist in mythologies who oversaw the whitewash report on 9/11 is now director of the Miller Center at University of Virginia at Charlottesville.

    The zionists are in control of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy!

    Trump was roundly denounced for saying “there was blame on both sides, and good people on both sides.”
    That is what the US system of Equal Justice Under Law is supposed to stand for.

    —–
    Donald Rumsfeld said, “You go to war with the army you have.”

    Little — and Nehlen, and some others — have put themselves out there, conversant in ideas and positions many on Unz Forum endorse.
    They are not perfect.
    We would do well to get behind them; summon similar courage to give up our “$100,000/year jobs,” as Little has done; hold meetings and conferences where ideas and knowledge can be shared — consider the impact Kevin McDonald’s book had on Little!
    We can do media trainings.
    We can frame the issue and shape the narrative OUR way.

    I can hear RobinG saying, How are you going to do that?

    We can start by communicating with Patrick Little and Paul Nehlen.

    Write a White Paper (no pun intended) and send it to them.

    If you have the ability — geographically, financially, knowledge-wise, socially — meet up with other UF participants, put your heads together and compose something to pass along to Little and Nehlen.

    There’s a lot of talent on this forum; it should be organized and empowered.

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    Trump was roundly denounced for saying “there was blame on both sides, and good people on both sides.”
    And pitiful Martin O'Malley was denounced for saying, "All lives matter."

    We can start by communicating with Patrick Little and Paul Nehlen.
    Little could use some help, all right. If he were posting at UR, he'd be suspected of hasbara, the variety that discredits anti-Zionists.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    S2C reminded us: "Donald Rumsfeld said, “You go to war with the army (amor!) you have.”

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    At present as ZUS has soft war ongoing against us dumb goyim, our formidable armor is that which is beneath our rib cages.

    When the hard war phase begins, we might do well by relying upon & donning what Paul called the "Armor of God."

    Thanks.. trust I'm not being excessively obstructionist as dearest RobinG.
    , @geokat62

    Write a White Paper (no pun intended) and send it to them.
     
    Great idea, S2C. I’d recommend taking the Newsweek and NBC interviews as templates for the kinds of queries mass media are likely to put to candidates like Little and Nehlen and we (Unzers who are interested) should take a crack at drafting what we consider to be “ideal” responses.

    Perhaps we could resurrect the LFTL vehicle for doing so. Once we finalize a set of responses we could send it to both Little and Nehlen as well as other prospective candidates that are America-firsters.

    If Phil is ok with this proposal, perhaps we could recruit Chuck to join our little group.

    , @tac
    And here are a couple of other interviews:

    with Patrick Little:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9CIIJc4pk4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbpBQTjq9fQ


    with Sander Hicks who is running in NY's 12th district (although he is a progressive, he stated that he is for setting up a 9/11 re-investigations in Congress and he anti-Patriot Act; and he's certainly better that the status quo):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJJtcNJswG4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7jRAHDn2ck
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  • Californians finally have an America-firster they can vote for:

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Thanks for posting this, geokat62.
    The female interviewer did not know how to handle someone who had not memorized the talking points.

    It takes only a few brave souls to get out ahead of the mob and start to turn it. It won't be long until more congressional candidates are disqualified on the basis of their support for a foreign entity rather than the USA.
    What a concept.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Great discovery of a non-Jew "fool's gold" political peddler in California, geokat!

    Thank you.
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  • Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May. Well, almost all. Two great world power leaders competed in their benevolence to Jews, while ordinary Israelis had fun and exhilarating soft target practice shooting unarmed Gazans or at least cheering...
  • @SolontoCroesus
    You're as boring as Momus.

    This is more interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2392&v=7DG4baswsiM

    Patrick Little is taking a bold stand, against a powerful mainstream.
    I'd love to see him refine his presentation; he's on the right track.

    It's also informative to analyze the Interviewer's prods and comments: Little is breaking out of the frame but she wants to force him back into the box.

    "Let's not talk about those books . . . You really want to talk about those books . . . "

    Here's a transcript of Newsweek interview of Little -- S2C hasn't studied it yet -- S2C was eager to get you updated.

    ttps://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/patrick-little-interview-with-newsweek-apr-30-2018-transcript/

    Should not have posted the Patrick Little stuff without reading it thoroughly.

    The Newsweek interview is very poorly done; Little’s ideas are not very carefully thought out and formed. He needs more expansive study than just “Culture of Critique.”

    PS S2C had prepared a lengthy, point-by-point response to Incitatus’s initial posting, which S2C decided to scrap, Incitatus’s demeaning of Italian orphans got under S2C’s sterling veneer.

    Maybe later.

    Both Inc & Wally are confused re the Sept 16 speech.

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    said:
    "Both Inc & Wally are confused re the Sept 16 speech."

    I'm confused how?

    Thanks.
    www.codoh.com
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  • @Incitatus
    “You missed S2C’s frequent mention of…”

    Speaking of yourself in the third person S2C? Learn that in law school? Allows you to bill at a higher multiple?

    “You failed to mention anything at all about Persia/Iran, the topic of this article, or were you too busy scanning archives?”

    [Clear throat, look at ceiling, cue Twilight Zone theme]

    Sure you’re on the right article S2C? This isn’t Giraldi’s ‘Among the Persians’. It’s Shamir’s ‘The Messiah Is Here’. Israel’s 70th? Now might be a good time to check for drool.

    “Besides, anyone who would sneer at the suffering of orphans, whether Italian, Palestinian, Chinese, Vietnamese or Martian, is a shit-stain that does not deserve serious regard.”

    Who’s sneering? Whisper: Your bare teeth are showing.

    OK. Sorry to have upset you, S2C (third person and all). Orphans are off-limits. “Shit-stain”. Got it. Worshiping those who made orphans – many, many, many orphans – including German and Italian orphans – is morally superior? What does that make you? Stain or shit?

    Care to lead us in a chorus of Die Fahne Hoch?

    You’re as boring as Momus.

    This is more interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2392&v=7DG4baswsiM

    Patrick Little is taking a bold stand, against a powerful mainstream.
    I’d love to see him refine his presentation; he’s on the right track.

    It’s also informative to analyze the Interviewer’s prods and comments: Little is breaking out of the frame but she wants to force him back into the box.

    “Let’s not talk about those books . . . You really want to talk about those books . . . ”

    Here’s a transcript of Newsweek interview of Little — S2C hasn’t studied it yet — S2C was eager to get you updated.

    ttps://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/05/07/patrick-little-interview-with-newsweek-apr-30-2018-transcript/

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    Should not have posted the Patrick Little stuff without reading it thoroughly.

    The Newsweek interview is very poorly done; Little's ideas are not very carefully thought out and formed. He needs more expansive study than just "Culture of Critique."

    PS S2C had prepared a lengthy, point-by-point response to Incitatus's initial posting, which S2C decided to scrap, Incitatus's demeaning of Italian orphans got under S2C's sterling veneer.

    Maybe later.

    Both Inc & Wally are confused re the Sept 16 speech.

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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @geokat62
    Californians finally have an America-firster they can vote for:

    https://youtu.be/7DG4baswsiM

    Thanks for posting this, geokat62.
    The female interviewer did not know how to handle someone who had not memorized the talking points.

    It takes only a few brave souls to get out ahead of the mob and start to turn it. It won’t be long until more congressional candidates are disqualified on the basis of their support for a foreign entity rather than the USA.
    What a concept.

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  • Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May. Well, almost all. Two great world power leaders competed in their benevolence to Jews, while ordinary Israelis had fun and exhilarating soft target practice shooting unarmed Gazans or at least cheering...
  • @Incitatus

    “you [Momus] are a jerk whose mission here is to hijack and disrupt from whatever is the topic of the article.
    Your spiel — your regurgitation of lies and propaganda — is old, tired, boring and makes you look really really dumb and desperate.


    –SolontoCrœsus 25 May 208 #307
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-messiah-is-here/#comment-2344333
     
    My, oh my, oh my. How could it have come to this? Do the gods frown on UR, S2C? Or did you just trip on one of you thresholds? No matter. In spirit of preventing same in future, let me offer the following.

    NEW POSTER’S GUIDE to successful interactions with SolontoCrœsus on Planet Germania, where [whisper] water runs uphill and Hell is frigid. The way to S2C’s heart is:

    • Sympathetically mention Italian orphans as THE tragedy of WW2. Take care to remain silent on all other orphans, except (of course) German orphans. Repeat, do not mention orphaned Ethiopians, Libyans, Cyrenaicans, Spaniards, Albanians, French, Yugoslavs, Greeks, Maltese, Russians, or (least of all) Italian Jews.

    • S2C’s a loyal German ally, so play it safe - mum’s the word on orphaned Austrians, Poles, Sudetens, Czechs, Danes, Norwegians, Luxembourgers, Belgians, Dutch, English, Australians, Canadians, Americans – you get the idea. Mention only Italian (non-Jewish) orphans (heavy emphasis, lots of tears) and German victimhood. Enough said.

    • Lament the Jewish Boycott on Germany declared in 1933 and characterize it as ‘war on Germany’ (though Germany alone had an army). Do not mention Adolf Hitler’s declaration of war on Jews on 16 September 1919, regularly repeated thereafter with promises of stripping Jews of citizenship, property, and all other human rights.

    • Praise heroic Nazi selflessness in occupied France, protecting it from evil Allies. Do not mention the 90,000 French soldiers killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940, the 350,000 French civilians who died 1940-44, the 1.5 million French POWs held until 1945 to guarantee ‘cooperation’, the ‘confiscation’ (theft) of everything from industry to art, the 650,000 French pressed into work in das Vaterland, or the 400 million francs per day paid by France for the privilege of German occupation.

    • Contribute a dollar to S2C’s ‘Replace Holocaust Histories with Italian Orphan Tearjerkers’ campaign. It would go a long way to win him over. Mention ‘Many Thresholds’ with your donation. Do not mention 'ambulance chasing' lawyers.

    • When published, praise S2C’s long-awaited ‘My Father Fought Fascists I Love, But He’s OK’.

    • Praise the heartwarming sequel ‘My Mom’s land was Confiscated by Il Duce, But I Still Love Him’.

    • Whatever you do – repeat – whatever you do, don’t mention the Allies’ secret weapon: Benny Mussolini’s army.

    Good luck.

    No need to thank me, S2C.

    I would thank you but your list is woefully inadequate.

    You failed to mention anything at all about Persia/Iran, the topic of this article, or were you too busy scanning archives? You missed S2C’s frequent mention of Zoroaster, the soul of Persian culture and the root of ethics in Judaism and Christianity.

    There are numerous problems beyond that, but Momma always said, Never engage in a battle of wits with someone who is not adequately armed.

    Besides, anyone who would sneer at the suffering of orphans, whether Italian, Palestinian, Chinese, Vietnamese or Martian, is a shit-stain that does not deserve serious regard.

    Maybe there’s room for you in the sandbox w/ Momus & iffy.

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    “You missed S2C’s frequent mention of…”

    Speaking of yourself in the third person S2C? Learn that in law school? Allows you to bill at a higher multiple?

    “You failed to mention anything at all about Persia/Iran, the topic of this article, or were you too busy scanning archives?”

    [Clear throat, look at ceiling, cue Twilight Zone theme]

    Sure you’re on the right article S2C? This isn’t Giraldi’s ‘Among the Persians’. It’s Shamir’s ‘The Messiah Is Here’. Israel’s 70th? Now might be a good time to check for drool.

    “Besides, anyone who would sneer at the suffering of orphans, whether Italian, Palestinian, Chinese, Vietnamese or Martian, is a shit-stain that does not deserve serious regard.”

    Who’s sneering? Whisper: Your bare teeth are showing.

    OK. Sorry to have upset you, S2C (third person and all). Orphans are off-limits. “Shit-stain”. Got it. Worshiping those who made orphans – many, many, many orphans – including German and Italian orphans – is morally superior? What does that make you? Stain or shit?

    Care to lead us in a chorus of Die Fahne Hoch?
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @tac
    Hi S2C:

    I checked and it seems those videos are still active, but I will post them again ... btw, I am not one to compare Nazis to these Israeli thugs, but since I did not make those videos, I cannot separate what is contained within them, but you and I can both agree that proof of Israeli brutal tactics against the Palestinians is both undeniable and clear-cut ... (btw2, nice to finally get a response from you .... I am in general agreement with most of what you post ... keep up the good work ... let's finally expose these sub-humans for what they really are):

    https://twitter.com/Moon_Kidnapper/status/998372618477690880

    https://twitter.com/Layton01214/status/997570165821902849

    Also Boycott Israel:
    https://twitter.com/Osman_Marwa1/status/997831021440757760

    https://twitter.com/YannHoneymouth/status/999183692617670656

    https://twitter.com/ALQadiPAL/status/1000074168577265664

    https://twitter.com/MomentumCV/status/998779434483240961

    https://twitter.com/BeitMahsir/status/999754472170577925

    PS Home Depot is totally off-limits.

    Just got a $5 coupon from Home Depot. What imaginative thing shall I do with it?

    We shopped for stuff for the block party — passed up less expensive grass-fed ground beef from Australia in favor of more expensive beef NOT from Australia. Don’t want to risk exposure to whatever cooties have putrified peter aus’s brain.

    Likewise, we’ll avoid the racks and racks of Australian wine.

    btw, mint leaves, or vanilla, or bicarb of soda are superior breath fresheners.
    You guys wear clothes to neighborhood parties? Ours are au naturel.

    PS to peter aus: how considerate to summarize for “busy people.”
    I took a different approach.
    Ignore.

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    S2C:

    I hope your Memorial Day block party went well. And thank you for stepping up to the plate by taking action in this way. If enough good-conscious people--and especially those who want control of their governments pried away from hostile foreign interests' groups firm grasp--this can be achieved must more expeditiously.

    btw: I'd noticed PeterAUS' condescending jab at me .... as if busy people do not somehow have any ability to notice what is happening around them, or has been happening around them. The good news is that many more people are starting to wake up to this fact.Stay well!

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  • @Momus
    You've been smoking too much of that hooch. Put down the bong.

    Remember the Embassy hostages? What about the hundred of US soldiers killed in Iraq by Iranian weapon factory produced IED's?

    You like hearing 'Death To America' chants?

    >What about the hundred of US soldiers killed in Iraq by Iranian weapon factory produced IED’s?

    And who was it that tricked GWB into attacking Iraq? Your bros Mo. We would all benefit by a Momus of Silence.

    http://www.sobran.com/columns/2003/030325.shtml

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    You need to use block quote for coherent pots.
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  • @tac
    Hi S2C:

    I checked and it seems those videos are still active, but I will post them again ... btw, I am not one to compare Nazis to these Israeli thugs, but since I did not make those videos, I cannot separate what is contained within them, but you and I can both agree that proof of Israeli brutal tactics against the Palestinians is both undeniable and clear-cut ... (btw2, nice to finally get a response from you .... I am in general agreement with most of what you post ... keep up the good work ... let's finally expose these sub-humans for what they really are):

    https://twitter.com/Moon_Kidnapper/status/998372618477690880

    https://twitter.com/Layton01214/status/997570165821902849

    Also Boycott Israel:
    https://twitter.com/Osman_Marwa1/status/997831021440757760

    https://twitter.com/YannHoneymouth/status/999183692617670656

    https://twitter.com/ALQadiPAL/status/1000074168577265664

    https://twitter.com/MomentumCV/status/998779434483240961

    https://twitter.com/BeitMahsir/status/999754472170577925

    Thank you, tac, and apologies for distracting from your main message & running off on a tangent — I hate when that happens.

    The videos are powerful.

    Block party/Memorial Day picnics will be just across the street; I’ll print fliers of some of the images you posted, especially the Israeli-origin items to BDS, and spread them around.

    Thanks again.

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    The range of items appears quite exhaustive; from avocados to Levis jeans, Colgate toothpaste, McDonald's, KFC, to Intel and IBM etc, etc.

    It would require steely determination on the part of the conscientious boycotter to appear unclothed, uninformed and unfed at the block party. To say nothing of halitosis - Colgate-Palmolive makes if I am not mistaken, about 90% of all oral hygiene products.

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  • @tac
    PeterAUS, since you are tone-deaf (and have absolutely NO IDEA whom you are dealing with), try to refute these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7sSQFpyJu8

    Israelis in their OWN WORDS:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5utTDGS3B_Q

    https://twitter.com/MOOSA_PATRIOT/status/996493736405123072

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/23/562608/iran-un-palestine-israel-khoshroo

    tac, a video disappeared!

    I watched it — it was several minutes long; I think it was just below the Israelis thugs who punched and kicked in the groin the Palestinian kid. It had scrolling text, not closed captioning but a discourse.

    I wanted to watch it again, among other reasons because it said, “this is just like the Nazis,” (+ – ) then ended with the request, “share this video,” so I was going to try to download it.

    I would share the video, but I think it’s a strategic error to constantly raise the “Nazi” comparison: first of all, imo the situation is not at all the same — Germans were in a type of actual war that is no longer fought, that does not compare with what Israelis are doing to Palestinians; furthermore, I’m not aware of solid evidence of German soldiers actually brutalizing civilians other than partisans, the way that Palestinian was beaten on camera.

    Second, comparing Jews/Israel/IDF to Nazis is like giving a blow job to goons like Momus and the ones who beat up that kid: it reinforces Jewish hate, and conveys a sense of power, even superpower, to Jewish thugs.

    If it’s a bad idea for AltRight to use NSDAP symbols, it’s an even worse idea to use “Nazi” to characterize Zionists, Israelis, IDF, etc. They are totally different ideologies and creatures.

    PS The exchange between the Irish ?? legislator & Israeli ambassador needs to spread far and wide. He got a little hot, and a moderator tried to tone him down, but he made numerous significant points, most important = “the whole system of apartheid needs to be dismantled.” Same as Ahmadinejad: “zionism must disappear from pages of time.”

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    • Replies: @tac
    Hi S2C:

    I checked and it seems those videos are still active, but I will post them again ... btw, I am not one to compare Nazis to these Israeli thugs, but since I did not make those videos, I cannot separate what is contained within them, but you and I can both agree that proof of Israeli brutal tactics against the Palestinians is both undeniable and clear-cut ... (btw2, nice to finally get a response from you .... I am in general agreement with most of what you post ... keep up the good work ... let's finally expose these sub-humans for what they really are):

    https://twitter.com/Moon_Kidnapper/status/998372618477690880

    https://twitter.com/Layton01214/status/997570165821902849

    Also Boycott Israel:
    https://twitter.com/Osman_Marwa1/status/997831021440757760

    https://twitter.com/YannHoneymouth/status/999183692617670656

    https://twitter.com/ALQadiPAL/status/1000074168577265664

    https://twitter.com/MomentumCV/status/998779434483240961

    https://twitter.com/BeitMahsir/status/999754472170577925
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  • Heard on C Span: “If it wasn’t for our military, Europe would be speaking German.”

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    Thanks, Jacques.
     
    And thanks to you, as well, Chuck! It's almost sad to see Hasbara Central scraping the dregs from the very bottom of the hasbarrel. It's no doubt intended as an insult to us dumb goyim as well.

    Perhaps when the hideous goons quit shooting to kill and maim unarmed and non-threatening (to any normal person) Palestinians for all the world to witness, they can send in the real schmucks.
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  • Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May. Well, almost all. Two great world power leaders competed in their benevolence to Jews, while ordinary Israelis had fun and exhilarating soft target practice shooting unarmed Gazans or at least cheering...
  • @Momus
    Yes they executed many Germans on the basis of the'common knowledge' of the holocaust because of Nuremberg.

    What the CIA did in Iraq was hardly the moral equivalent of the most mild of the Nazis interrogation techniques, and fully open to contention as to if it constituted torture.

    Momus, you are a jerk whose mission here is to hijack and disrupt from whatever is the topic of the article.

    Your spiel — your regurgitation of lies and propaganda — is old, tired, boring and makes you look really really dumb and desperate.

    Go away.

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  • That joking retort we heard as children, "Is the pope Catholic?" is starting to look like a serious question. Asked five years ago about a "gay lobby" in the Vatican, Pope Francis responded, "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?" As judgment was thought to...
  • @nickels
    You are completely missing the entire game by falling back on meaningless platitudes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKH0EwEPnZw

    One of Jones’s most informative interviews. The explanation of Foucoult’s role in pushing the homosexual agenda in place of workers’ rights was appreciated.

    Jones has discussed the role of Benedictines in “teaching Germans the value of work” and did so again in this interview. However, his comparison to Italians, who do not have the same work ethic, poses a problem: especially after a quick overview of the E A Ross item that was featured in the Unz Book archive https://www.unz.com/book/e_a_ross__the-old-world-in-the-new/ . I tend to agree that Italians have a far different perspective on work.

    Jones attributes the German work ethic to Benedict and points to the presence of many Benedictine monasteries along the Rhine (he does not mention that Hitler attended a Benedictine high school).

    But Benedict was Roman. The first Benedictine monasteries were in Italy. Monte Cassino was in Italy — before the British ‘accidentally’ bombed it to dust.

    So why didn’t Benedictine magic exert the same influence on Italians as on Germans?

    Machiavelli traveled in German lands on embassies for the Medici; he visited and admired German towns that were centered on monasteries and emulated their orderliness. It’s reasonable to assume Machiavelli’s thinking and writing was in some small way influenced by those models.

    I’d sure like to engage w/ Michael Jones and try to suss out what was different about Benedictine :: Germany vs Benedictine :: Italy.

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    I think it was Pat's book where I read about Hitler irritating all the Italians on his visit to Mussolini because he kept going on about how the Mediterranean peoples were inferior due to their mixing of African blood.
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @sarz

    *Interesting factoid: the Islamic government grossly neglects to the point of destruction several of Iran’s ‘secular’ Persian historic sites, including Pasargadae and the site of Shah Pahlavi’s lavish 2000 anniversary bash.
     
    Not true. I was there last week at both sites. It took quite a while lining up for tickets. That's where they need more attention, more windows. They were jam-packed with tourists, at least half of them foreigners, mostly European, Japanese and Chinese. No Americans. Major work going on at Persepolis.

    As a rose lover, I was really impressed with the rose planting in every Iranian city. A prolific white floribunda planted in masses particularly caught my eye. I thought of taking one home. Suddenly it occurred to me that this was not a Persian rose, though like all modern roses it probably had some Persian genes. No, this was definitely Moon Dance, an All American Rose Society winner. Well done, America. May you have more wins of the right sort.

    Tickets you say?

    Well then, you force the realization that it’s been ten years since I was at Pasargadae where there was not only not a dearth of ticket windows, there was no controlled access whatsoever — we drove into a lot, walked freely around the monuments, no guards, no guides, a few signboards explaining the monuments.
    There were serious concerns that the Iranian government was not attending to erosion control and water diversion problems.

    Ten years ago the site of Pahlavi’s 2000th anniversary party was overgrown and observable only from a distance — what we saw was the skeletal framework of the tents.

    It’s good news that the situation has changed to what you report.

    PS iffen — plenty of sandboxes for you and Momus to romp in, but you should know that feral cats have freedom of movement in many places in Iran.

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    Ten years?

    Why not twelve? Can I get 15? Gimme 15, now 20 , can I get 20? Who will go for 25?

    Ignorant dipwad.

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  • @Momus
    America has not bombed Iran. Iran has bombed and killed many Americans.

    Does anyone else suspect that Momus really believes the alternate version of reality that he/she/it spews?

    We’re told that the “Jew brain” is as successful as it is because it bypasses or defies the logic that ‘ordinary’ persons live by.
    Black Pigeon’s discussion of East v West creativity

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=245&v=et-pIHUUai0

    starts one to thinking that that creativity has made interesting contributions, but it has a downside: it’s a Frankenstein, it has no moderating soul, and if Momus is any example of the phenomenon, it is robotic, unassailable by countervailing arguments.

    There’s a basic notion in Psych 101 that that which has been ‘implanted’ emotionally can be changed by Reason only with great difficulty. In my inexpert understanding, the neurotransmitters between emotion & reason simply do not connect; making that connection requires intensive work.

    It might be that the Jew brain is wired to receive signals ‘emotionally to the nth degree,’ wired directly to centers committed to the pleasure/satisfaction of the Self (i.e. narcissistic) or mirror-of-Self (i.e. tribe), with no connection to a moderating system of logic. Or empathy for the Other.

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  • Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May. Well, almost all. Two great world power leaders competed in their benevolence to Jews, while ordinary Israelis had fun and exhilarating soft target practice shooting unarmed Gazans or at least cheering...
  • @anarchyst
    Judicial notice", a legal doctrine, is used to turn a "commonly accepted belief", however wrong, or even scientifically and physically impossible, into the equivalent of "religious orthodoxy" from which no dissent or counter-argument is permitted. THIS is the tool that jews use to legitimize even the most outlandish and ridiculous holocaust ™ claims.
    This tactic was used in the Nuremberg trials to good effect, and is used in today's "kangaroo courts" against those who dare question the lies, fabrications, and claims of witnesses about any aspect of the holocaust ™.
    The two latest victims of "judicial notice" and "holocaustianity ™" are 8o-plus-year-old grandmothers Monika Schaefer and Ursula Haverbeck who are incarcerated in German high-security prisons as we speak.
    TRUTH cannot be used as a defense when "judicial review" is invoked..

    Another important posting on John Wear’s site

    Lord Hankey, of The House of Lords Denounced The Ruling Out Of ‘Obedience To Orders’ & ‘Act of State’ As A Defense In The Nuremberg “Trials”

    https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/nuremberg-farce-quote-36-lord-hankey-the-house-of-lords-denounced-the-ruling-out-of-obedience-to-orders-act-of-state-as-a-defense-in-the-nuremberg-trials/

    Wear wrote: “After World War II, Hankey emerged as a leading critic of war crimes trials, and in his 1950 book Politics, Trials and Errors argued that the Allies had no right to convict German and Japanese leaders of war crimes.”

    This quote from that book:

    The proud story of British justice is occasionally marred by shabby episodes where the national character falls below its accustomed standards of chivalry, honour and common sense. Examples are the burning of Joan of Arc in the market place of Rouen in May, 1431; the trial of King Charles I and his execution in Whitehall on January 30, 1649; . . . all of which have been condemned by modern historians.

    To that list, I doubt not will be added in due course the War Crimes Trials that began with the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal on 20 November, 1945, and ended, so far as Great Britain was concerned, with the trial which is so well described in this volume…

    The trials in the British zone of which [Field-Marshal] von Manstein’s was one, had one merit, namely that charges for “Crimes against Peace” and crimes against humanity were not included. But, apart from this, they reveal many of the errors of their predecessors at Nuremberg, Tokyo and in the American zone, e.g.:

    [next are listed five objectionable elements of the American, etc. trials from which the British deviated in the trial of Field-Marshal von Manstein — see https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/nuremberg-farce-quote-36-lord-hankey-the-house-of-lords-denounced-the-ruling-out-of-obedience-to-orders-act-of-state-as-a-defense-in-the-nuremberg-trials/comment-page-1/#comment-2367

    Most significant, at this specific time in US history, is this element to which Lord Hankey objected:

    the creation contrary to the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of Prisoners of War, of new ex post facto crimes, that were not criminal or even illegal at the time the acts to which they refer were committed;

    This is significant in view of the recent confirmation of Gina Haspel to head US CIA. It has been charged that, as a CIA employee, Haspel oversaw the torture of prisoners. In Senate testimony, she declined to give forthright answers to those charges, explaining instead that she did nothing that was not outside the law at the time. She did promise, if confirmed, to abide by law in the future.

    In other words, Nuremburg prosecutors arranged the law such that Germans were hanged for violating laws that did not exist at the time they took the alleged action; but Gina Haspel is rewarded and promoted for committing acts that were clearly in violation of those very United Nations Declarations, created by Nuremberg, that are now, and were then, constraints on signatories to UN Charter.

    This double-standard is so obvious, one might expect the principle of Judicial Notice. to apply.

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    Yes they executed many Germans on the basis of the'common knowledge' of the holocaust because of Nuremberg.

    What the CIA did in Iraq was hardly the moral equivalent of the most mild of the Nazis interrogation techniques, and fully open to contention as to if it constituted torture.
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @RVBlake
    Interesting. I went to Wikipedia to read about Gen. Schultze-Rhonhof, having never heard of him. This led me to Udo Walendy, a German publisher and colleague of the general, who has encountered difficulties in his country due to his questioning of the Holocaust. In 1999, he served 15 months in prison for publicly questioning the Holocaust.

    Glad you dug a little deeper, RVBlake, and welcome to UnzForum.
    Warning, tho: a. it’s habit-forming, and b. hold onto your brain, a lot of things are going to rattle the conventional wisdom-lobe.


    The title of this article rattled my brain: Why did Phil use “Persians”? There are numerous ethnic groups in Iran, of which Persian is just one, and of course, Iran, aka IRI, the Islamic Republic of Iran, is, um, Islamic.

    In my opinion, at their core, Iranians are Persian; Persian culture, based on Zoroaster, is what bonds the Iranian people. While USA has numerous battlefield sites, and an uncivil war is raging over which military leader’s statue may or may not stand in US cities,* Iran is dotted with shrines and memorials to Persian poets and cultural icons: in Shiraz, the City of Poets and Roses, people spend their lunch-hour and after-work leisure spreading their carpets near the monument to Hafez

    http://life.toiran.com/?p=626

    Phil wrote that he was in “Mashad and Tehran” at the International conference organized by New Horizon.

    Tehran is the largest city in Iran (and one of the largest cities in the world). According to Iran Chamber http://www.iranchamber.com/cities/tehran/tehran.php the name, Tehran, was first used in the tenth century.
    Here’s an interesting factoid I found on http://www.livius.org/articles/place/rhagae/

    Rhagae is situated on a very ancient road. It started in Babylonia, went through Ecbatana to Rhagae (Tehrân), and from there through Parthia to Susia (Tus near Mashad), where it divided. Its northern branch was to become known as the Silk road: it went through the Karakum desert to Margiana (Mary or Merv) and Bactra (Balkh, near modern Mazâr-e Sharîf). From there, the road went across the Pamirs and continued to China. The southern branch went through Aria, Arachosia, and from there to the Indus valley.

    For centuries, traders have passed along these roads and visited Rhagae, where they could choose between three roads across the Elburz mountains to the Caspian Sea. The excavations at Chesmeh Ali, a part of modern Reyy, have shown that people were already living there in the Early Bronze Age.

    This intrigued me because when I tried to find out more about “Rhagae,” up popped Rhagaer, white-haired Prince in the Game of Thrones. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Rhaegar_Targaryen
    Maybe everybody else in the world knows this (I’ve never played GoT) — that there are probably extensive references to the Persian empire and Shahnameh, the Persian epic, in GoT. For example, because Prince Zal was albino (i.e. white-haired Rhaegar), he was rejected by his father but saved by the bird, Simorgh, who raised him and promised to always protect Zal — a promise Simorgh kept. Bird images are everywhere in Persian iconography and literature. sorry about the digression

    Mashad is Iran’s most strictly-observant city and home to the Shrine to Shi’ite martyr Imam Reza. https://sacredsites.com/middle_east/iran/mashhad.html

    https://www.molon.de/galleries/Iran/Mashhad/Shrine/img.php?pic=2

    So RobinG’s question @ 123 https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/among-the-persians/#comment-2340450 is extremely important —

    How did Iran go from a Persian monarchy to an Islamic Republic in 1979?

    How did Iran go from Tehran to Mashad?

    Where is the locus of the Iranian people — Tehran, or Mashad, or both?

    Is there a relationship to the situation of the American people and their loci of control/loyalty — New York-LosAngeles-DC vs Flyover country?

    PLEASE PLEASE do not divert from the question- and time period: YES, we know about 1953.
    DO NOT RESPOND with references to CIA involvement in overthrow of Mossadeqh. You will be consigned to play with iffen and Momus in a sandbox the cats discovered last night.

    Here’s RobinG’s original question:

    What do you know about the assertion that US/UK, (CIA, along with MI6, et al), not only installed the Shah in 1953, but, finding him no longer suitable, facilitated . . . Shah Reza Pahlavi’s . . . removal in 1978-79?

    RobinG referred to a discussion on Mike Whitney’s article; was Robin referring to this comment?

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/did-trump-scrap-the-nukes-deal-to-pay-back-his-pro-israel-campaign-donors/#comment-2326771

    George H W Bush selected Khomeini and maneuvered him into power.
    GHWB, Pissed at Carter for removing him from CIA chiefdom – fiefdom, retained his contacts. And knew, before Carter, that Shah was dying. GHWB foresaw the succession situation & planned for it. He selected a charismatic Muslim on the concept that such a leader could/would control a dynamic population that might otherwise embrace Communists.

    Anybody have any sources/references/wisdom to contribute?

    *Interesting factoid: the Islamic government grossly neglects to the point of destruction several of Iran’s ‘secular’ Persian historic sites, including Pasargadae and the site of Shah Pahlavi’s lavish 2000 anniversary bash.

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    Thank you. I've been coming here daily for a month or so now. Had previously commented over on Takimag till the comment section got "disappeared."
    , @RobinG

    ... . . Shah Reza Pahlavi’s . . . removal in 1978-79?
     
    There were at least 6 interlocutors at the Mike Whitney thread, starting with #5, Anon. Then Mike P's comment #33 and the Perloff article (of which at first I missed the significant point).

    Of course Perloff, like most people, has his own bias and axe to grind, but he raised good questions. Anon 204 protested, asserting that Iranian support for Khomeini was genuine. Well, what if it was? So what? That doesn't mean the CIA wasn't playing its own game.

    Since you brought up Game of Thrones, its popularity is evidence that Americans (some significant portion, anyway) are capable of following a complex story line where multiple factions are maneuvering, realigning, scheming, etc., etc. There's an epic range of themes, from downright evil to the unintended consequences of good intentions.

    The pundits and media are doing a huge disservice when they discourage understanding by framing [anything] as too complicated. Life is complicated. Are they just misguided, or is there a motive for making us moronic?
    , @iffen
    Dribble, dribble, dribble .........
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  • Perhaps the Jewish Messiah is already here, though we are not aware of his coming? All Jewish dreams and desires were fulfilled this mid-May. Well, almost all. Two great world power leaders competed in their benevolence to Jews, while ordinary Israelis had fun and exhilarating soft target practice shooting unarmed Gazans or at least cheering...
  • @AaronB
    Right, I mean simply Jews have a narrative about themselves, their place in the world, and their connection to God that they implicitly believe and do not question using logic.

    All their energy then goes into translating this vision into reality. Europeans destroyed all their narratives. Jews direct all their energy toward realizing a vision - Europeans towards discovering a vision.

    Which group operates from a position of stremgth? The group that knows exactly what it wants and sets out to do it - or the group that is still trying to figure out what it wants?

    I am suggesting Europeans develop a clear idea of what they want - based on a clear identity, based on a clear religious vision and what constitutes transcendental values. This cannot be accomplished through open-ended logical inquiry - but is fundamentally a non-rational task. Therefore logic has to be downgraded in European intellectual life.

    That's basically what I'm saying. I'm hardly saying we should copy Jewish ethnocentrism or adopt their metaphysical beliefs. Ours should be quite different - but we must have metaphysical beliefs. And we dont, now. We live by the Enlightenment tradition of open ended inquiry. That is a weak way to live. Time to admit this kind of rational inquiry cannot yield us a vision worth living and fighting for.


    Power is also fluid….it crest and recedes….which is what is going on in the world right now…..the final holder of power at any given time is the decider at that time….until the next holder of the power creates a new reality.
     
    Absolutely, but the laws that govern this process are not random either.

    I am suggesting Europeans develop a clear idea of what they want – based on a clear identity, based on a clear religious vision and what constitutes transcendental values. This cannot be accomplished through open-ended logical inquiry – but is fundamentally a non-rational task.

    Perhaps you’ve read Phil Giraldi’s most recent article,
    Among the Persians

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/among-the-persians/

    In my view, the title had tremendous significance: Iranians have a “clear identity, based on a clear cultural vision . . . and what constitutes transcendent values.” Although there are numerous ethnic groups in Iran, the Iranian people are united — bonded, even — in their Persian identity and cultural legacy. That Persian identity is neither Jewish nor Christian: it predated both, and lent to them ethical values derived from Zoroaster.

    That is why Trump and the zio – neocon ghouls can not break Iran.

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    Indeed you are correct.

    Groups firmly grounded in ancient spiritual traditions have an inestimable advantage over groups that live by open-ended inquiry. They cannot be broken - though they may be defeated, it is never final.

    Persia will survive the West.

    I also found the faith and serene good cheer of that Palestinian mother I mentioned above quite heartening - that is what it means to be spiritually grounded. The Palestinians will outlive Israel.

    The current order is temporary and quite fragile.
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  • I have just spent a week in Mashad and Tehran Iran, speaking at an international conference on the future of Jerusalem as well as other related issues while also meeting with a broad range of Iranians, including journalists, students and government officials. The conference was organized by a non-government organization called New Horizon. It was...
  • @iffen
    the German side of the story has not been given an equitable hearing,

    As far as I know the Germans were reluctant to say very much and still are.

    As far as I know

    Q E D

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    Verbose, gyrating dribbling by a non-German in 2018 purporting to explain how the Jews got what they deserved (except they didn’t really get it) do not count.
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  • There are mountains of documents and testimonies.

    Indeed there are: tons of documents, in fact, gathered primarily by German Jews during and after the war, and sent to USA where Gerhard Weinberg led a team who copied them, sent the originals back to Germany and the photostats to US archives, where Robert Wolfe, also Jewish, controlled access to the German Archive for several decades.

    The chain of custody leaves something to be desired: were documents incriminating of Allies/Jews destroyed? Were all of the documents returned to Germany (we know from Major-General Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof that the answer to that question is NO. )

    Nevertheless, with this unprecedented in all of history trove of documents, not one scrap of evidence could be found to support the assertion that NSDAP planned and carried out a “systematic, industrialized, extermination of every Jewish man, woman and child they could get their hands on.”

    A new, Jew-approved hagiographer has just published a biography of Eisenhower (similarly re Jimmy Carter), so I’m guessing the Rational Institute has determined that the Merkun people need to have their I Like Ike buttons burnished. Triggered, perhaps, by a surfeit of hits on videos and essays on Eisenhower’s Death Camps, where he gave orders that German POWs be re-classified as Disarmed Enemy Combatants, thus outside the purview of required accommodation of POWs, therefore, he starved them to death.

    Volumes could be written to discredit Eisenhower and ‘evidence’ he gathered, or planted, post-surrender, but pearls before swine and all that.

    The short summery is, The statement you quoted proves nothing; it is not a document stating what NSDAP plans were, or what was carried out.

    Try again.

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    Interesting. I went to Wikipedia to read about Gen. Schultze-Rhonhof, having never heard of him. This led me to Udo Walendy, a German publisher and colleague of the general, who has encountered difficulties in his country due to his questioning of the Holocaust. In 1999, he served 15 months in prison for publicly questioning the Holocaust.
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  • @Momus
    "It serves the secondary purpose of showing Jews to be natural totalitarians; enemies of free speech in particular, and freedom in general."

    Irony much?

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, not the rights of the perpetrators.

    We are talking about victims of one of the most vicious persecutions in history maintaining their freedom of speech, .

    Which one?

    The “persecution” pogroms in Russia that provoked Jacob Schiff to rush in and fund the Bolshvik revolution — but was then discovered to have involved episodic mob violence that cost the lives of 43 — count ‘em, 43 Jews? Far fewer than Palestinians that Israel killed earlier this month.

    Rabbi Stephen Wise belly-ached about “6 million Jews” being “persecuted” sine ~1900.

    How do you say “cry wolf” in Yiddish?

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    • Replies: @CalDre
    The Six Million Man Myth runneth long and wide:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
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